Islamic community center to go up near New York's ground zero

[73109]

BTW, this community center will also have Christian and Jewish prayer rooms.

Why does that matter?

Because having a synagogue in downtown New York is insensitive to those who have suffered from pastrami sandwiches.

Oh my god...

[hefdaddy42]

But I'm not sure how that would make a difference to a good many of the people who object to this.

I don't know that it would.

[El JoNNo]

I did read all of the posts and only have a few things to add.

If some people use religion, be it Christianity, Islam, or Pastafarianism to convince the simpleminded to do something naughty, it's not the religion that's to blame.

I think this is a bit of a misleading argument. Justification and reward can be found throughout the Bible and the Qu'ran for terrorist acts, it all depends on which you want to act upon. If a person already believes that they will die a matyr and go to heaven for the killing of "infidels", taking advantage of this seed that is already planted is smart. Is there still an evil person behind coercing the simpleminded? Yes of course, but the evil that is the religion has already existed for hundreds of years already. Whether you like it or not, religion is to blame for much of it, not all of but much.

To alleviate all the blame off religion is just silly.   


With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."
  --  Steven Weinberg

I think we have to stop worrying about people's feelings. People can "feel" whatever they want as long as they don't do anything illegal. The mosque cannot be stopped in a free society. If they have the dough and meet the zoning ordinance, they must be allowed to build. The average "Joe's" feelings be damned. Freedom is more important than feelings.

THis.

People need to realize you have freedom of speach/religion and many other freedoms in U.S.A. One thing you DO NOT HAVE IS FREEDOM FROM BEING OFFENDED!


My opinion is they should be able to build it if they want to it is there freedom. Do like? No. With all these rights and freedoms the less favourable events occur and sometimes the favourable occur but times it is the right thing to uphold.

[ainamotore]

Correct.

The Mosque should be built.

The Qurans should be burned.

And everyone should just STFU, feel however they feel, and rededicate themselves to Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Speech.

[XJDenton]

Respecting freedom of speech by shutting up. Interesting concept.

[ainamotore]

Respecting freedom of speech by shutting up. Interesting concept.

Actually it is respecting freedom of speech by allowing it.

[XJDenton]

Do you not feel freedom of speech covers people voicing their opinion that people should not do an act they feel to be misguided, stupid or just plan wrong?

[ainamotore]

Do you not feel freedom of speech covers people voicing their opinion that people should not do an act they feel to be misguided, stupid or just plan wrong?

Absolutely. As long as it ends with voicing their opinion. The essential freedoms to build the mosque and burn the qurans must remain inviolate.

[Seventh Son]

Do you not feel freedom of speech covers people voicing their opinion that people should not do an act they feel to be misguided, stupid or just plan wrong?

Absolutely. As long as it ends with voicing their opinion. The essential freedoms to build the mosque and burn the qurans must remain inviolate.

You're missing the point. Its not about taking away those freedoms. Rather, it simply about criticizing those that use those freedoms without thought or regard to the consequences that they can have. Basically telling idiots to think before they act, even if they have the right not to do so.

[ainamotore]

Do you not feel freedom of speech covers people voicing their opinion that people should not do an act they feel to be misguided, stupid or just plan wrong?

Absolutely. As long as it ends with voicing their opinion. The essential freedoms to build the mosque and burn the qurans must remain inviolate.

Au contrare, there are plenty of Americans who are MORE than willing to use the political system to stop the mosque. THAT is the point. It is those Americans we need to educate.

You're missing the point. Its not about taking away those freedoms. Rather, it simply about criticizing those that use those freedoms without thought or regard to the consequences that they can have. Basically telling idiots to think before they act, even if they have the right not to do so.

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Basically telling idiots to think before they act speak, even if they have the right not to do so.

When you edit your remark to cover the actions of a lot of the protestors, interestingly, the same principle applies.