Megadeth

[sneakyblueberry]

There are strong signs of the RIP lineup getting back together so my money is on that right now

Signs where? where signs?

[wolfking]

There are strong signs of the RIP lineup getting back together so my money is on that right now

Signs where? where signs?

Yeah, I have no idea where he would have gotten that from. 

[Kotowboy]

He has made a very public commitment to TWD. I would be surprised if he accepted anything that would interfere with that
commitment.

Very true.  But, hypothetically, I think there are a couple of factors:
1.  Megadeth is comparatively huge relative to other opportunities Mike currently has available, so making an "adjustment" to his present commitments if this opportunity presented itself might not be out of the question.
2.  I think that neither project is so active that adjustments in the schedule could not be made to accommodate.  I think he could probably work it out.  In a way, Megadeth would be ideal from that standpoint.  They are big enough that it would be a great gig to earn some more serious cash and get him out on bigger stages, but they aren't HUGE anymore and are a bit less busy so that he could still do other things, time (and Mustaine) permitting.

I dunno.  I still think it is more likely than not that he will NOT be the next Megadeth drummer.  But so far, none of the reasons I have seen should be considered insurmountable hurdles.

Pretty much this. There are strong signs of the RIP lineup getting back together so my money is on that right now, but if not I think MP is a good bet.

To be completely honest I don't think TWD will last that long. Maybe one or two new albums at most. These supergroups tend to not last very long, especially when one or more of the members have bigger commitments. Just look at what happened to Chickenfoot, or more recently BCC (granted other factors seemed to be bigger causes for that split). If MP wants an actual full time band with longevity, unless he finds a bunch of young musicians to start a brand new band, he's gonna have to join an already established act. Megadeth could be the ticket. The only question after that is how long would he last in that band. 

I can't see Megadeth lasting much longer tbh. Even if MP joined I don't think he'd be in the band very long.

Mustaine is already 53. Can anyone see him still fronting Megadeth at age 60 ? That's only 7 years away.  His voice is in terrible shape as it is.

[bosk1]

Okay, but his voice has ALWAYS been in terrible shape.  You might like his voice or feel that it suits the songs, but I don't think I have ever heard anyone try to argue that Mustaine was ever a good singer or had a great voice, ever.

[jammindude]

Okay, but his voice has ALWAYS been in terrible shape.  You might like his voice or feel that it suits the songs, but I don't think I have ever heard anyone try to argue that Mustaine was ever a good singer or had a great voice, ever.

ABSOLUTELY THIS

I absolutely loved Megadeth back in the day, and I still hold the pre-CTE stuff to be some of the best thrash ever made.  And I *do* think Dave's snarling delivery really fits most of the time.   But the guy CANNOT "sing"...

[TheGreatPretender]

I like his "non-singing" though. Saying he cannot sing is a bit unfair, I'd say he has his own unique style that doesn't conform to standard singing techniques, and when it does come to standard singing techniques, yes, I'd say he's probably not very proficient at that.
But as it is, saying he can't sing at all is like hearing someone do guttural vocals and saying they can't sing at all. It's a different technique, and for Mustaine, he's very good at what he does. If he was TRYING to sing normally, and this is what we got, then yeah, I'd say he couldn't sing. And I haven't heard him actually tru to sing normally to make that judgment.  But what he is doing, he's getting the exact result he wants out of it. And honestly, I much prefer listening to Mustaine's vocals than anything guttural.
But yeah, for his purposes, aside from the odd clean passage here and there, he really doesn't need his voice to be in any kind of an excellent shape, so I don't see why he couldn't go on doing what he's doing well into his 60s. If anything ever causes him to stop, I have a feeling that it's going to be his hands long before his voice.

[sneakyblueberry]

If he was TRYING to sing normally, and this is what we got, then yeah, I'd say he couldn't sing. And I haven't heard him actually tru to sing normally to make that judgment.  But what he is doing, he's getting the exact result he wants out of it.

He's trying to sing HIS normal and he just can't do it anymore - I really don't think he's getting the exact result he wants out of his singing.  He can sing pretty much NOTHING from the pre-2000's Deth back catalogue.  At least not without tuning the guitar down a whole step to D standard - which in itself is lolcats as Dave's gone on record as saying that downtuning is stupid because 'the guitar doesn't resonate the way its supposed to at A440z".  Pffffffftttt

Pffffffftttttttt

To be fair, he could never really replicate his studio vocals live.  He could've done with some singing lessons early on to preserve what he had by using proper technique but his huge inflated ego probably stopped him making that call. 

Disc 4 of Warchest has the best live vocals.  Lets just bask in that glory and forget everything after that.

[mikemangioy]

Man, if only Nevermore still existed, I would've love to see Chris back in that band. 

[TheGreatPretender]

If he was TRYING to sing normally, and this is what we got, then yeah, I'd say he couldn't sing. And I haven't heard him actually tru to sing normally to make that judgment.  But what he is doing, he's getting the exact result he wants out of it.

He's trying to sing HIS normal and he just can't do it anymore - I really don't think he's getting the exact result he wants out of his singing.  He can sing pretty much NOTHING from the pre-2000's Deth back catalogue.  At least not without tuning the guitar down a whole step to D standard - which in itself is lolcats as Dave's gone on record as saying that downtuning is stupid because 'the guitar doesn't resonate the way its supposed to at A440z".  Pffffffftttt

Pffffffftttttttt

To be fair, he could never really replicate his studio vocals live.  He could've done with some singing lessons early on to preserve what he had by using proper technique but his huge inflated ego probably stopped him making that call. 

Disc 4 of Warchest has the best live vocals.  Lets just bask in that glory and forget everything after that.

You know, I noticed this with Super Collider, but these days, I find he's starting to sound more and more like Lemmy from Motorhead. And honestly, I'm not sure that's such a bad thing, haha.

[sneakyblueberry]

If you detuned Dave's vocals on any early Megadeth record down a fifth they'd probably sound like Lemmy too

[bl5150]

Killed By Deth 

[TheGreatPretender]

If you detuned Dave's vocals on any early Megadeth record down a fifth they'd probably sound like Lemmy too

Now that sounds like an interesting experiment!

[TAC]

Killed By Deth 

 

[Mosh]

There are strong signs of the RIP lineup getting back together so my money is on that right now

Signs where? where signs?

https://www.wolverinekills.com/2014/11/29/megadeth-rust-in-peace-line-up-reuniting/

[TAC]

That's some interesting detective work!

Dave Ellefson spoken word tour..
https://bravewords.com/news/megadeth-bassist-david-ellefsons-my-life-with-death-spoken-word-tour-to-hit-australia-in-march

[wolfking]

There are strong signs of the RIP lineup getting back together so my money is on that right now

Signs where? where signs?

https://www.wolverinekills.com/2014/11/29/megadeth-rust-in-peace-line-up-reuniting/

Weird I haven't heard about this, but well done indeed.  And very interesting.

[sneakyblueberry]

There are strong signs of the RIP lineup getting back together so my money is on that right now

Signs where? where signs?

https://www.wolverinekills.com/2014/11/29/megadeth-rust-in-peace-line-up-reuniting/

ooooooh, nice!

[XB0BX]

That's some interesting detective work!

Dave Ellefson spoken word tour..
https://bravewords.com/news/megadeth-bassist-david-ellefsons-my-life-with-death-spoken-word-tour-to-hit-australia-in-march

Every Megadeth tour is a spoken word tour with how limited Dave's voice is.

[sneakyblueberry]

[Cruithne]

https://www.wolverinekills.com/2014/11/29/megadeth-rust-in-peace-line-up-reuniting/

I'm not going to dismiss the notion out of hand, but it's a bit of a stretch to go from mutual follows with the bass player on Twitter to "Marty Friedman willing to suspend his burgeoning career in Japan to put up with Mustaine's shit again".

[Zydar]

Megadeth bassist David Ellefson reassured fans that despite the recent departure of guitarist Chris Broderick and drummer Shawn Drover, the group will not disband.

"As you can probably tell by me being here today, we are not disbanding," he said during a recent fan club chat.

"As of right now, we are looking at all the options, of which there are many. We'll certainly continue working on the new songs for the next record, Hopefully that brings everyone up to speed on things as of today. Thank you for all of your kind words, concerns and support to us," Ellefson added.

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/david_ellefson_megadeth_is_not_disbanding.html

[Kotowboy]

They should do open auditions. I'm sure there's hundreds of unknown drummers and guitarists who would kill to be in a high profile gig like that.

[Mindflux]

It seems like such a waste to go through lineup changes as often as Megadeth seems to.

The new member (if not an old member rejoining) has to learn a huge, complex back catalog of songs.   Maybe not every single one, but enough that it would seem like a huge pain in the ass to bring on a new member.

[sneakyblueberry]

It seems like such a waste to go through lineup changes as often as Megadeth seems to.

The new member (if not an old member rejoining) has to learn a huge, complex back catalog of songs.   Maybe not every single one, but enough that it would seem like a huge pain in the ass to bring on a new member.

I dunno, did you ever hear the story of Jimmy Degrasso's first gig with them? My memory may be off, but I think he had like, a night to learn a Megadeth set - he was playing a festival with them the next day.  He did it all without any drums, just by learning and memorizing the recordings.  Played the show the next day without a hitch.  That's the calibre of musician they're working with so I don't think it'd be that big a deal.  Plus, the money's gotta be not-too-shabby like, thats usually a good motivator for wanting to do the job right.

Its interesting tho, imagine how amazing Metallica would be if it was James Hetfield and a rotating cast of stellar musicians lol.  I don't even know how you could call Megadeth Megadeth anymore.  They should just call it The Daves. 

[Mindflux]

I dunno, did you ever hear the story of Jimmy Degrasso's first gig with them? My memory may be off, but I think he had like, a night to learn a Megadeth set - he was playing a festival with them the next day.  He did it all without any drums, just by learning and memorizing the recordings.  Played the show the next day without a hitch.  That's the calibre of musician they're working with so I don't think it'd be that big a deal.  Plus, the money's gotta be not-too-shabby like, thats usually a good motivator for wanting to do the job right.

Its interesting tho, imagine how amazing Metallica would be if it was James Hetfield and a rotating cast of stellar musicians lol.  I don't even know how you could call Megadeth Megadeth anymore.  They should just call it The Daves.

I  hadn't heard about that. I did wonder if at that level of musicianship if my pondering was even a real issue.  It still just seems like a massive PITA.

[sneakyblueberry]

I feel like Dave Mustaine's whole career has been nothing but ass pain

[black_biff_stadler]

My Last Turds

[bosk1]

I dunno, did you ever hear the story of Jimmy Degrasso's first gig with them? My memory may be off, but I think he had like, a night to learn a Megadeth set - he was playing a festival with them the next day.  He did it all without any drums, just by learning and memorizing the recordings.  Played the show the next day without a hitch.  That's the calibre of musician they're working with so I don't think it'd be that big a deal.  Plus, the money's gotta be not-too-shabby like, thats usually a good motivator for wanting to do the job right.

Well, yes, but you also have to take into account that Jimmy is a freak.   

[sneakyblueberry]

Well, yeah.  He's a big part of the reason I loved Rude Awakening so much, he's a monster.

[bosk1]

I've loved pretty much all of his work that I have heard. 

On a side note, I don't remember the timing for sure, but I think he and Dave already had a relationship too because they had worked on MD.45 prior to Jimmy joining Megadeth, if memory serves.

[mikemangioy]

If the RIP lineup doesn't come back, I would LOVE to see DeGrasso back in Megadeth. Have you seen She Wolf live with his drum solo? FLAWLESS

Oh, and speaking of RIP, you should check out my top 50 albums thread in fifteen minutes 

[emtee]

The last Deth show I saw was Gigantour when DT opened just prior to them. I stayed for a couple songs but their energy was
lacking and it was a long day going back and forth between stages to catch the bands I wanted to see. For those who have
seen them recently do you think they still have the capability to fill theaters and then to keep people there with ample energy?
They just didn't hold a candle to DT's performance when I saw them. It was a let down.

[TheGreatPretender]

The last Deth show I saw was Gigantour when DT opened just prior to them. I stayed for a couple songs but their energy was
lacking and it was a long day going back and forth between stages to catch the bands I wanted to see. For those who have
seen them recently do you think they still have the capability to fill theaters and then to keep people there with ample energy?
They just didn't hold a candle to DT's performance when I saw them. It was a let down.

Well, I went to see Gigantour last year, and it's a definite yes.
The Molson Ampitheater was full (fits 16000 people), and while it's true that a lot of them were probably there for Black Label Society, I would definitely say that Megadeth had great energy, plus I was way at the front, and let me tell you, the amount of people trying to push and shove their way to the front when Megadeth was performing was pretty intense. Quite a few people were squeezed out of the front row, and I remember someone actually had to be pulled out by security because they couldn't handle the pressure. So the people that WERE there, had their enthusiasm cranked.

[goo-goo]

The last Deth show I saw was Gigantour when DT opened just prior to them. I stayed for a couple songs but their energy was
lacking and it was a long day going back and forth between stages to catch the bands I wanted to see. For those who have
seen them recently do you think they still have the capability to fill theaters and then to keep people there with ample energy?
They just didn't hold a candle to DT's performance when I saw them. It was a let down.

Felt the same way when I saw them at the Gigantour in Albuquerque with DT. Left after two songs.

[sneakyblueberry]

If the RIP lineup doesn't come back, I would LOVE to see DeGrasso back in Megadeth. Have you seen She Wolf live with his drum solo? FLAWLESS

Oh, and speaking of RIP, you should check out my top 50 albums thread in fifteen minutes 

Finally, something in your top ten I can dig!

The last Deth show I saw was Gigantour when DT opened just prior to them. I stayed for a couple songs but their energy was
lacking and it was a long day going back and forth between stages to catch the bands I wanted to see. For those who have
seen them recently do you think they still have the capability to fill theaters and then to keep people there with ample energy?
They just didn't hold a candle to DT's performance when I saw them. It was a let down.

Felt the same way when I saw them at the Gigantour in Albuquerque with DT. Left after two songs.

Yep.  Saw them at a festival here, a sideshow to the Soundwave cancellation/casserole of nonsense.  Was pretty underwhelming - was still awesome to see the Daves in real life tho having spent the best part of my early teens absolutely fanboy'd out over Megadeth.