The Dark Knight Rises

[Scorpion]

Alone with the amount of resources that Batman has at his disposal, it's pretty strange that no-one else made the connection.

[Dimitrius]

The one thing that always was a bit weird is how doesn't anyone else make that connection? This Batman character appears just as billionaire, infinitely loved by Gotham Bruce Wayne returns.

BB took a lot from Year One, they should've had some scene like when Gordon goes to question Wayne on the comic.

[Adami]

The one thing that always was a bit weird is how doesn't anyone else make that connection? This Batman character appears just as billionaire, infinitely loved by Gotham Bruce Wayne returns.

BB took a lot from Year One, they should've had some scene like when Gordon goes to question Wayne on the comic.

Well Robin made the connection, and so did that guy from TDK that Joker wanted to kill. Obviously Lucious figured it out too. I guess the reason no one else did was because Bruce did as much as possible to make his public personality as different from The Batman's as possible so that no one would even consider it.

[Dimitrius]

It was incredibly easy for Lucius to make that connection though, with the things Bruce was doing.

But yeah, all those people had some kind of connection to Wayne, I was thinking more of the layman. Gordon is suppose to be a very good detective and he didn't have any idea until Bruce tells him on TDKR...

[Adami]

It was incredibly easy for Lucius to make that connection though.

Well yea, God can figure most things out I assume.

[Sigz]

Well, making thinking Batman is Bruce Wayne based solely on that is kind of a stretch to me. But yeah, I'd think it'd be semi-obvious to at least some people that Batman has a connection to Wayne Industries. Like, there's literally no one in Wayne Industries or in the government who's seen the tumbler before and made the connection? Even if it was just a prototype, it's still something that would have directly involved dozens if not hundreds of engineers, businessmen, soliders, officers, and other gov't bureaucrats, not to mention plenty of other people who were still aware of it.

[Zantera]

If anything I think the people should have been suspicious when Batman vanished for 8 (?) years and Bruce Wayne didn't show himself for the same amount of time. Someone must have found it odd.

[Dimitrius]

If anything I think the people should have been suspicious when Batman vanished for 8 (?) years and Bruce Wayne didn't show himself for the same amount of time. Someone must have found it odd.

Couple that with Batman appearing when Bruce returns... I mean, people are stupid in Gotham.

[Zantera]

Yeah exactly. I'm not saying that everyone should see it, but more people at least.

[Adami]

Keep in mind after BB, most people didn't take Bruce Wayne very seriously. They thought of him as the stupid rich guy who accidentally burned his own house down. Why would they be scrutinizing a guy like that?

[Ryzee]

Yeah that was always the vibe I got.  Bruce made his public persona seem like such a goofball douche that people would never think him capable of doing the things Batman was doing.  Kind of like Clark Kent's deal, except at least Bruce wears a damn mask.

[Dimitrius]

And Clark is just a caricature of how an alien views humans.

[RuRoRul]

Rather than try to create some plausible reason why Bruce Wayne wouldn't be, not just considered a possibility, but one of the highest candidates on the list of Batman suspects (frankly there isn't one), I just consider it one of the suspensions of disbelief required for the Batman story to be possible at all - along with Batman (and some others) being able to defeat dozens of people in hand to hand combat, his feats of stealth, the existence of some of the technology, the idea of the League Of Shadows existing, the Joker being able to operate for so long without being caught, the affinity of villainous people to use masks, make up and pseudonyms, etc. Sure, all of them have some in-universe justification (he was trained by the League Of Shadows, etc.) but I think really they're just unrealistic things you have to accept as being somehow realistic in this universe - the Nolan films cut out a lot more things like that than you find in most comic book films, but you can't get rid of all of them if you want to keep the story even remotely like Batman.

So yeah, I just assume that even though in the real world Batman's identity would be quickly put together by his legions of fans on the internet (look at how popular superheroes are and imagine how many fanboys one would have in real life), for some reason it just doesn't happen in the Batman universe - the people of Gotham aren't just idiots, it's just difficult to make the connection that Bruce Wayne is potentially Batman, even though it appears like it would be easy in real life. That's why I really didn't like when Robin just knows Bruce Wayne is Batman from the look on his face. Yes, it is an easy connection to make. But having someone make that connection so easily, rather than making it more believable, only serves to break the suspension of disbelief that's been required so far. It'd be like watching Batman defeat dozens of enemies with his martial arts over the course of the three films, then at the end pointing out how unrealistic it is and having a few henchman gang up and get the better of him because no matter who you've been trained by, beating multiple opponents can be near impossible. It'djust highlight that all the fights you've seen up until now have been completely fictional, or suggest that all the enemies he faced before were ridiculously poor fighters.

Well, that's my reasoning for why Robin knowing without a satisfactoy explanation is a flaw with the film - it's not like it ruined the movie or anything like that. But it's one thing about the Robin storyline I don't like.

[ThatcrazyKISSfan]

This Nolan Batman trilogy should go down as one of the all-time classics, up there with the Star Wars OT, first three Indy films, Back to the Future and LOTR.

Back to the Future, great trilogy?  I don't know I love the first one.  And the third one is decent, but I don't think as a trilogy it holds up.  And we can tell from those other trilogies we should leave this series alone don't want  prequels Kingdom of the Crystal Skull lol........

[LCArenas]

Saw it Saturday and yes, it was indeed awesome. TDK had a bigger impact on me when I saw it the first time however. I think it's because of the villains. The Joker is a maniac, undecipherable, unpredictable hell of a character unique in his class; and Harvey Dent's descent into Two-Face might be one of the biggest reasons why I love that movie so much. I loved Selina Kyle in this movie, and all the Tate/Talia's twist really impressed me as well (Her death scene sucked however, and his actions seemed rushed: Heywayneijustmetyouandthisiscrazybutheresmyeternalsupportimhereforyouwhoopsiloveyouandalwaysbehereforyouletshaveseximthepresidentnowtimefortwistandrevengegoleagueofshadows) but Bane... Well... I mean, he's really good, but he seems so perfect as a villain he can even become predictable. Everything is so calculated, so perfectly executed, that, I don't know. It wasn't that good, and his death is just disappointing. Almost all the fucking movie I was thinking if Batman could outfight him and defeat him, and then BOOM! Catwoman just kills him out of nowhere, the character whose death I was most interested in seeing. It wasn't even dramatic, just quick. And the plotholes, but that was already covered up by a lot of guys ITT .

Other than the villains and the plotholes the movie was amazing. If TDK scored 95/100 TDKR might be in the 88-91 range. One of the few third parts in a trilogy that doesn't suck completely and it's actually pretty good and a decent way to end the trilogy as well; and it was better than BB IMO. Nolan is on his way to my top 5 favorite directors, matter of fact he might be there already.

[TL]

The Nolan Batman trilogy is definitely one of the best film trilogies that I can think of. Outside of these films I don't give the slightest shit about Batman, and yet I absolutely loved all three of these films.

Looking at the overall box office for TDKR so far, it's pretty damn impressive when you take into account the fact that it wasn't in 3D. It would be interesting to see how it compares to The Avengers purely in ticket sales, since 3D ticket sales definitely inflate the take a bit.

[Phoenix87x]

Here we go again

https://www.examiner.com/article/man-arrested-bringing-weapons-into-ohio-theater-showing-the-dark-knight-rises

[Chino]

Here we go again

https://www.examiner.com/article/man-arrested-bringing-weapons-into-ohio-theater-showing-the-dark-knight-rises

What a douche. Why would you keep the gun in a man purse??..??..

[chrisbDTM]

some batman villain was probably wearing a man purse in one panel of an obscure comic

[TL]

Here we go again

https://www.examiner.com/article/man-arrested-bringing-weapons-into-ohio-theater-showing-the-dark-knight-rises

At least they caught it in time.

Whether or not the suspect intended to do anything in this case, he can go fuck himself. Either he's another deranged sick bastard, or a fucking idiot. There's literally no good reason to bring a gun into a damn movie theater.

[fadetoblackdude7]

God, what's wrong with this fucking country?? I mean, I'm proud to be an American, but 2, almost 3 shootings within 1 month.....people are stupid.

[chrisbDTM]

but what if he had it due to the aurora shooting? as a precaution if it ever went down again in a theater he was in? im not saying i would do it, but it could be an excuse

[Adami]

but what if he had it due to the aurora shooting? as a precaution if it ever went down again in a theater he was in? im not saying i would do it, but it could be an excuse

He didn't have a permit. It doesn't matter what his intentions were.

[chrisbDTM]

just stating a possible excuse of his. i could care less as no actual shooting occurred. it was probably that damn violence in movies influencing the public

[theseoafs]

Here we go again

https://www.examiner.com/article/man-arrested-bringing-weapons-into-ohio-theater-showing-the-dark-knight-rises

At least they caught it in time.

Whether or not the suspect intended to do anything in this case, he can go fuck himself. Either he's another deranged sick bastard, or a fucking idiot. There's literally no good reason to bring a gun into a damn movie theater.

inb4 el barto

[Kotowboy]

Well, making thinking Batman is Bruce Wayne based solely on that is kind of a stretch to me. But yeah, I'd think it'd be semi-obvious to at least some people that Batman has a connection to Wayne Industries. Like, there's literally no one in Wayne Industries or in the government who's seen the tumbler before and made the connection? Even if it was just a prototype, it's still something that would have directly involved dozens if not hundreds of engineers, businessmen, soliders, officers, and other gov't bureaucrats, not to mention plenty of other people who were still aware of it.

I thought this too. Someone must know that Wayne Enterprises had one. Lucius didn't build it on his own.

[Chino]

Here we go again

https://www.examiner.com/article/man-arrested-bringing-weapons-into-ohio-theater-showing-the-dark-knight-rises

At least they caught it in time.

Whether or not the suspect intended to do anything in this case, he can go fuck himself. Either he's another deranged sick bastard, or a fucking idiot. There's literally no good reason to bring a gun into a damn movie theater.

Maybe he wanted to have a defense in the event a guy started throwing tear gas and pulling out an AR-15

[snapple]

This movie rocks.

[Ħ]

Just saw it again. It wasn't as exciting when I knew everything that was going to happen. Maybe I was having a tired evening, but I definitely enjoyed TDK over TDKR on second viewing.

[MykeHavoc]

Just saw it again. It wasn't as exciting when I knew everything that was going to happen.

That's typically how movies work.

[Sigz]

Just saw it again. It wasn't as exciting when I knew everything that was going to happen.

That's typically how movies work.

But yeah, after a second viewing TDK reigns supreme, though TDKR is still fantastic.

[Dimitrius]

Just saw it again. It wasn't as exciting when I knew everything that was going to happen.

That's typically how movies work.

[Ryzee]

I don't know, it's close but right know I think I dig Rises a little more than Dark Knight.  It just feels a little more Batman-ish to me.  I mean besides obviously having a lot of cool Batman/Bruce Wayne stuff, it has the Batcave, Robin, Selina Kyle and I loooooove the flying Bat vehicle thingy!  The Dark Knight has the Joker of course but otherwise it can sometimes feel more like just like an awesome crime thriller like Heat or something than a proper Batman film.  Begins is still probably my favorite, again for the "feeling more Batman-ish" factor.

[Super Dude]

I agree, but only in the sense that TDK was the Joker show as someone else has had.

[Ħ]

The first half of Begins is very cool. The ending is so anticlimatic though.