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Offline Dimitrius

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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1505 on: August 01, 2012, 06:50:20 PM »
Quote from: Kotowboy on August 01, 2012, 06:36:49 PM
Exactly.

I didn't even see Batman & Robin on account of it's horrific reputation. I didn't even know that Bane was in it til after TDKR was out.
Don't worry, the Bane from that movie is just a glorified henchman.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1506 on: August 01, 2012, 11:04:59 PM »
Which makes it all the worst since he's supposed to be a mastermind strategist along with his Glorious muscles.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1507 on: August 03, 2012, 04:37:27 AM »
Finally got to watch it, yesterday! To say that I hat to get 2000 miles away from home to have this privilege...

Anyway, I liked it a lot and found it a rather fitting conclusion to an excellent saga.

A few minor complaints:

- I liked the dramatic twist involving Miranda/Talia at the end (I had been hoping Nolan hadn't wasted Marion Cotillard for a silly romantic role), but it seemed to me that the way the revelation was handled was too much of a detriment to Bane's charachter.
- I would have omitted the scene where Fox realizes that the aircraft had been set on autopilot by Bruce Wayne, and left the audience wondering whether the final Alfred scene was real or just the irrational hope of seeing his boy still alive projected onto his fantasy.

Still, a very movie, almost on par with TDK. Gave it 5 stars on rottentomatoes.com
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1508 on: August 03, 2012, 07:08:36 AM »
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1509 on: August 03, 2012, 07:27:50 AM »
Quote from: wasteland on August 03, 2012, 04:37:27 AM
- I would have omitted the scene where Fox realizes that the aircraft had been set on autopilot by Bruce Wayne, and left the audience wondering whether the final Alfred scene was real or just the irrational hope of seeing his boy still alive projected onto his fantasy.

Why?
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1510 on: August 03, 2012, 10:19:28 AM »
Quote from: wasteland on August 03, 2012, 04:37:27 AM
- I would have omitted the scene where Fox realizes that the aircraft had been set on autopilot by Bruce Wayne, and left the audience wondering whether the final Alfred scene was real or just the irrational hope of seeing his boy still alive projected onto his fantasy.
No, just no!
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1511 on: August 03, 2012, 10:21:31 AM »
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Quote from: wasteland on August 03, 2012, 04:37:27 AM
- I would have omitted the scene where Fox realizes that the aircraft had been set on autopilot by Bruce Wayne, and left the audience wondering whether the final Alfred scene was real or just the irrational hope of seeing his boy still alive projected onto his fantasy.

Why?

Yeah, this would have just been frustrating for me.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1512 on: August 03, 2012, 10:24:38 AM »

Quote from: wasteland on August 03, 2012, 04:37:27 AM
- I would have omitted the scene where Fox realizes that the aircraft had been set on autopilot by Bruce Wayne, and left the audience wondering whether the final Alfred scene was real or just the irrational hope of seeing his boy still alive projected onto his fantasy.

Not everything has to be Inception.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1513 on: August 03, 2012, 10:38:48 AM »
While I love twist-endings, I think that in the case of Batman, I would always want a good ending. And I think a lot of people agrees with me. Twists can be great, but with a superhero and movies that are so loved, a twist would just make people say "why the fuck didn't they show what happened?".
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1514 on: August 03, 2012, 10:55:09 AM »
Perfect way to end the film and set up the DC franchise?  Omit the autopilot scene, but keep the Alfred scene.  The audience is now confused like....how did he survive?  Then cut to close up of Batman in the Bat, closing his eyes....accepting his fate right before the bomb goes off.  Then you hear a loud noise...like ripping metal.  You see the glimpse of a red cape as Batman is yanked out of the cockpit.  Cut to black.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1515 on: August 03, 2012, 11:00:10 AM »
That would've been a nice way... if Bale had been the Batman to be used for the eventual JLA movie.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1516 on: August 03, 2012, 11:05:20 AM »
No thanks :puke:
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1517 on: August 03, 2012, 12:17:23 PM »
Quote from: BlackInk on August 03, 2012, 07:08:36 AM
Quote from: wasteland on August 03, 2012, 04:37:27 AM
Still, a very movie
This.
Sorry, I just accidentaly the whole thing...  :(

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Quote from: wasteland on August 03, 2012, 04:37:27 AM
- I would have omitted the scene where Fox realizes that the aircraft had been set on autopilot by Bruce Wayne, and left the audience wondering whether the final Alfred scene was real or just the irrational hope of seeing his boy still alive projected onto his fantasy.

Not everything has to be Inception.

No, but I love when movies end with some major questions still hanging. I'm not saying it would have been the best ending, but just the one I would have liked the most.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1518 on: August 03, 2012, 01:24:02 PM »
You must love Lost then.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1519 on: August 03, 2012, 01:32:43 PM »
I enjoyed the ending of Inception because it had a specific purpose; that it didn't matter whether he was in a dream or in the real world, but that he had moved on and was happy.  He had his children back and had let go of the guilt for his wife's death. 

Had he done the same with Batman, it wouldn't have made sense from a storytelling perspective.  What purpose would an ambiguous ending served the story?  Instead, we are shown Bruce Wayne living a normal life without the burden of being Batman anymore, which is what he had been trying to do since the beginning of TDK.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1520 on: August 03, 2012, 01:34:29 PM »
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You must love Lost then.

Never watched a single episode of it. I love aSoIaF, though.  :tup
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1521 on: August 03, 2012, 01:36:56 PM »
this thread:

a. complain about plotholes
b. jump down people's throats for expressing interest in an ambiguous ending
c. compare katie and maggie
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1522 on: August 03, 2012, 02:17:20 PM »
A. There were a few, nothing movie-breaking though.  Bane is the real problem with this movie.
B. There's no need for an ambiguous ending.  Literally nothing else in the trilogy was ambiguous.  Nobody would get anything out of an ambiguous ending.
C. If you pick Katie, you are wrong.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1523 on: August 03, 2012, 03:16:30 PM »
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A. Bane is the real problem with this movie.
C. If you pick Katie, you are wrong.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1524 on: August 03, 2012, 03:51:01 PM »
Katie Holmes I'd take home to my parents.

Maggie I'd...well..I probably had a few and choose not to remember.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1525 on: August 03, 2012, 03:59:57 PM »
Maggie was a much better Rachel though.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1526 on: August 03, 2012, 04:04:02 PM »
No. Because her face looks like it got beat with an ugly stick
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1527 on: August 03, 2012, 04:21:01 PM »
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No. Because her face looks like it got beat with an ugly stick
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1528 on: August 03, 2012, 04:28:13 PM »
Just a hunch, but I think Sigz meant that Maggie was better at the, you know, acting side of the gig.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1529 on: August 03, 2012, 05:27:43 PM »
How can anyone call Maggie Gyllenhall ugly when rednecks exist ?
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1530 on: August 03, 2012, 05:28:30 PM »
i liked katie. I'll take continuity from BB over the slightly better acting skills of maggie
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1531 on: August 03, 2012, 05:37:34 PM »
Jesus Christ we're back on this?
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1532 on: August 03, 2012, 05:51:33 PM »
I'll sort this out.  HERE BE SPOILERS


BANE GETS SHOT BY CATWOMAN.


WAYNE IS ALIVE AT THE END.


JOSEPH GORDON LEVITT IS ROBIN.


MARION COTILLARD TURNS OUT TO BE THE DAUGHTER OF RAS AL GHUL.


There. Now get your brains out of your pants and let's discuss the film like film fans.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1533 on: August 03, 2012, 06:37:42 PM »
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Quote from: Kotowboy on August 01, 2012, 06:36:49 PM
Exactly.

I didn't even see Batman & Robin on account of it's horrific reputation. I didn't even know that Bane was in it til after TDKR was out.
Don't worry, the Bane from that movie is just a glorified henchman.
And that differs from TDKR how...?  ;D
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1534 on: August 03, 2012, 06:38:55 PM »
"she's really ugly" - my girlfriend while watching The Dark Knight.

Maggie may be the better actor, but oh boy does she have a face for radio.

But you know, Katie didn't really look all that good in Batman Begins either.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1535 on: August 03, 2012, 10:43:02 PM »
While I don't find Maggie to be the hideously deformed mutant troll some folks seem to make her out to be, I can't help but snicker every time Heath says "Well hellllllooooo beautiful!" only to emphasize it with "And you ARE beautiful." I'd have bought the first half of the line for it's connotation of a psychopath inflicting fear into a potential victim. But the tag at the end gives it a level of sexuality that not one single person on the planet could buy...and this is from a guy that convincingly played a sexual relationship with her brother.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1536 on: August 03, 2012, 10:50:10 PM »
Not understanding the Maggie Gyllenhall hate in this thread.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1537 on: August 03, 2012, 11:28:13 PM »
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Not understanding the Maggie Gyllenhall hate in this thread.
I couldn't place the ugliness factor until I saw her nude scenes. I realized her face has the same saggy and worn out look that the rest of her does.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1538 on: August 04, 2012, 12:36:25 AM »
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i liked katie. I'll take continuity from BB over the slightly better acting skills of maggie

This!
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1539 on: August 04, 2012, 03:55:51 AM »
While Maggie is arguably the better actor, I think Katie Holmes looked better in Batman Begins. And I'm not really a fan of her either so.
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