The biggest disappointments by your favorite bands (in real time)

[Adami]

Are you calling me a weirdo?

I speak for the children.

[TAC]

[jingle.boy]

Are you calling me a weirdo?

I speak for the children.

[dparrott]

Radiohead: Post Kid A.  Almost 20 years of this weird sleepy shit.  ROCK!!!

What? I wouldn't call Kid A much of a straight "rock" album. Hail to the Thief fits that more than it. And A Moon Shaped Pool was fantastic.

Not to speak for dparrott, but my interpretation of his post was, "Instead of releasing sleepy music, Radiohead should rock."   I, of course, totally disagree with that line of thinking.  Radiohead has done plenty of rock tunes since Kid A, but rocking out like they did in the 90's is not who they are anymore, and I'd rather a band be true to themselves rather than trying to appease fans who can only handle their music done a certain way.

It seems they can still rock in concert just fine, just not on record. 

And "plenty of rock tunes"? Really?  Not that I've heard.  Yea Thief was more return to the past, but that's basically it.  I'm not saying their music isn't good I'm just saying it's just feels the same every album.  It could be a balance of both styles.

[KevShmev]

And "plenty of rock tunes"? Really?  Not that I've heard.  Yea Thief was more return to the past, but that's basically it.  I'm not saying their music isn't good I'm just saying it's just feels the same every album.  It could be a balance of both styles.

Okay, but if they kept doing records like The Bends and OK Computer, which would have made some happy, one could argue that those albums sounded the same, even though those two albums really do not.  In other words, while Radiohead has had a prevalent sound ever since Kid A, they do a lot of different things with it within that context to where saying it feels the same every album seems unfair.  To look at the the last three, In Rainbows, The King of Limbs and A Moon Shaped Pool all feel like very different albums.

[The Curious Orange]

Starship.

I mean, you've got GRACE F*CKING SLICK in your band and you get her to take a back seat while Mickey Thomas sings all the vocals. WTF were they thinking??? No wonder she left.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Opeth......Ghost Revieres and Watershed were damn near perfect albums..... everything released since then, not for me.

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

Opeth......Ghost Revieres and Watershed were damn near perfect albums..... everything released since then, not for me.

Ah yes, how could I forget about opeth.... Everything they have done since watershed has been more and more disappointing. They need to get their heads out of their asses.

[Zantera]

Opeth......Ghost Revieres and Watershed were damn near perfect albums..... everything released since then, not for me.

Ah yes, how could I forget about opeth.... Everything they have done since watershed has been more and more disappointing. They need to get their heads out of their asses.

I'm not a big fan of their last 3 and if they keep making albums like this my interest will probably drop more, BUT I do think it's better for them to keep making music that they are passionate about than to revert back to their old style just to appease some fans. I don't really have any interest in the 70s revival retro style they've been channeling, but credit to them for doing something different.

[Stadler]

And "plenty of rock tunes"? Really?  Not that I've heard.  Yea Thief was more return to the past, but that's basically it.  I'm not saying their music isn't good I'm just saying it's just feels the same every album.  It could be a balance of both styles.

Okay, but if they kept doing records like The Bends and OK Computer, which would have made some happy, one could argue that those albums sounded the same, even though those two albums really do not.  In other words, while Radiohead has had a prevalent sound ever since Kid A, they do a lot of different things with it within that context to where saying it feels the same every album seems unfair.  To look at the the last three, In Rainbows, The King of Limbs and A Moon Shaped Pool all feel like very different albums.

They do have a thread running through them though:  they're horrible.   (Just kidding, my opinion only.  Not a fan at all. And I don't say this to shit on people's parade, but it's relevant to the thread, since for all the accolades, it's a sort of disappointment to just not get it.)

[Art]

I've remembered another disappontment:

Audioslave's second and especially third records.

I love the first album, and i thought they could actually develop their sound in the subsequent releases, but the other records seemed (lack of a better term) totally phoned in.

[Stadler]

Starship.

I mean, you've got GRACE F*CKING SLICK in your band and you get her to take a back seat while Mickey Thomas sings all the vocals. WTF were they thinking??? No wonder she left.

Yeah, but with excellent songs like "We Built This City" it was worth it, no?

[KevShmev]

Starship.

I mean, you've got GRACE F*CKING SLICK in your band and you get her to take a back seat while Mickey Thomas sings all the vocals. WTF were they thinking??? No wonder she left.

Yeah, but with excellent songs like "We Built This City" it was worth it, no?

  , exactly.

The style of music the Starship made aside, while Grace Slick might be a legend, Mickey Thomas was one helluva singer, so it's not like they shoved her aside for some hack. 

[kaos2900]

Opeth......Ghost Revieres and Watershed were damn near perfect albums..... everything released since then, not for me.

Ah yes, how could I forget about opeth.... Everything they have done since watershed has been more and more disappointing. They need to get their heads out of their asses.

I'm not a big fan of their last 3 and if they keep making albums like this my interest will probably drop more, BUT I do think it's better for them to keep making music that they are passionate about than to revert back to their old style just to appease some fans. I don't really have any interest in the 70s revival retro style they've been channeling, but credit to them for doing something different.

Ditto for me.

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

Opeth......Ghost Revieres and Watershed were damn near perfect albums..... everything released since then, not for me.

Ah yes, how could I forget about opeth.... Everything they have done since watershed has been more and more disappointing. They need to get their heads out of their asses.

I'm not a big fan of their last 3 and if they keep making albums like this my interest will probably drop more, BUT I do think it's better for them to keep making music that they are passionate about than to revert back to their old style just to appease some fans. I don't really have any interest in the 70s revival retro style they've been channeling, but credit to them for doing something different.

I don't disagree with any of this. If they are making the music that they want to, them more power to them. I would prefer they go back to the style of Ghost Reveries, but even if they never do, there are plenty of bands still doing that style that I love.

[MoraWintersoul]

Ranked from biggest disappointment to tiny bumps:

When MP left DT and the subsequent release of ADTOE: The disappointment was so great, I couldn't listen to DT for like a full year.

Sonata Arctica releases Stones Grow Her Name: the only songs I liked were reworks or straight up re-recordings of their/Tony's old songs and it bothered me immensely, add to that a few absolute clunkers (I Have A Right, Don't Be Mean) and... yeah. I saw Unia in real time and managed to digest it and love it much faster than this half baked platter of mediocrity. Thank god they recuperated from that.

Daniel Gildenlow's years of meandering between Road Salt Two and ITPLOD: okay, to be fair, he spent a few of those years in a hospital, but starting from the split with Johan Hallgren, Pain Of Salvation couldn't do anything right for me. Sadly, the pattern continues - even though PoS published a great album, Daniel also unceremoniously fired the person who was responsible for a lot of the best moments on the album, and then brought Johan back and you know he's gonna leave again and when that happens I'll hate Daniel even more for firing Ragnar. Bleh.

Leverage releases new music (that I've been waiting for for 9 whole years), with a new singer who doesn't fit at all: None of you have heard about them so that's just me venting.

Kamelot releases their worst album yet, The Shadow Theory: ugh change something please!

Wintersun releases their procrastination save album, sounds like something Jari cooked up in his kitchen while panicking that people aren't buying his excuses about why Time II doesn't exist in the material world just yet: This was lame as fuck, just say the dog ate your Time II demos USB or something.

Fates Warning releases first album in nine years, is kinda bad: I didn't like Darkness in a Different Light, shoot me?

Amorphis Amorphising repetitively on The Beginning Of Time: If Amorphis ever went downhill, this would be the moment I'd pinpoint as the beginning of the end. Luckily they added some fresh elements back into their music and all has been well for 7 years and three albums.

[bl5150]

Leverage releases new music (that I've been waiting for for 9 whole years), with a new singer who doesn't fit at all: None of you have heard about them so that's just me venting.

Wrong     A few of the hard rock thread guys (incl me) like them -  Blind Fire was a favourite back in the day.

If you haven't already you might like to check out The Magnificent (a project Torsti did with the singer from Circus Maximus)

[Evermind]

Leverage releases new music (that I've been waiting for for 9 whole years), with a new singer who doesn't fit at all: None of you have heard about them so that's just me venting.

Wrong     A few of the hard rock thread guys (incl me) like them -  Blind Fire was a favourite back in the day.

Yeah, I actually got it in my roulette from Jon (Big Hath) and enjoyed both the song he gave me (Wolf and the Moon) and the Circus Collossus album. I should check out Blind Fire, I guess.

[MoraWintersoul]

Yay, loving the Leverage love!

Wrong     A few of the hard rock thread guys (incl me) like them -  Blind Fire was a favourite back in the day.

If you haven't already you might like to check out The Magnificent (a project Torsti did with the singer from Circus Maximus)

Man, Blind Fire was my jam too - I remember checking their Myspace between the first and the second record, listening to live recordings... good times!

I checked it out during the great drought, it was quite alright. Eriksen is one of my fave singers.

I should check out Blind Fire, I guess.

Yes, you should!

[Luoto]

Amorphis Amorphising repetitively on The Beginning Of Time: If Amorphis ever went downhill, this would be the moment I'd pinpoint as the beginning of the end. Luckily they added some fresh elements back into their music and all has been well for 7 years and three albums.

I was thinking about posting this but eventually didn't find it big enough of a disappointment. The band themselves actually noticed they were in danger of going into autopilot territory, so they changed the production crew and studio for Circle.

One considerable disappointment I can think of is the departure of Cygnus from Ne Obliviscaris, and the reasons behind it in particular. While Urn is a pretty good album, his absence can be heard a bit too clearly because his style of bass playing stands out from your usual tech-death approach.

[pg1067]

Fates Warning releases first album in nine years, is kinda bad: I didn't like Darkness in a Different Light, shoot me?

I won't shoot you, and opinions are opinions, but DIADL is miles better than either Disconnected or FWX!  In fact, I cited Disconnected as a huge disappointment earlier in the thread.

[TAC]

I consider Disconnected an EP.

[millahh]

DT - 8VM
DT - Systematic Chaos (yes I felt like it there was a let-down, and then a further let-down)
dredg - Chuckles (I get that it wasn't a proper dredg album, and I do see it as an experiment, but still...)
Aerosmith - Get a Grip
Def Leppard - Adrenalize
Metallica - ReLoad
Queensryche - Q2K
Tesla - Bust a Nut
Opeth - Heritage (I respect what they're doing, I just don't necessarily enjoy it)
U2  -Zooropa
Blackfield - Welcome to my DNA
Pixies - Head Carrier

[The Curious Orange]

Aerosmith - Get a Grip

OK, I get that long-time 'Smith fans didn't like the more commercial direction they took here, but surely the correct answer is:

Aerosmith - Just Press Play

That one is inexcusable whichever way you look at it.

[millahh]

Aerosmith - Get a Grip

OK, I get that long-time 'Smith fans didn't like the more commercial direction they took here, but surely the correct answer is:

Aerosmith - Just Press Play

That one is inexcusable whichever way you look at it.

I see your point...but after the CryCrazin' trifecta (and that goddamn song from Armageddon), I stopped paying attention...

[Grappler]

Queensryche - Operation Mindcrime II
Queensryche - Dedicated to Chaos

I was initially into Mindcrime II when it came out, but my enjoyment of that record quickly subsided.  D2C was the first QR album I hadn't bought in a decade of being a big fan.


Dream Theater - Octavarium

I just didn't get this album at all, and still dislike it. 

[dparrott]

Aerosmith - Get a Grip

OK, I get that long-time 'Smith fans didn't like the more commercial direction they took here, but surely the correct answer is:

Aerosmith - Just Press Play

That one is inexcusable whichever way you look at it.

Yes.  Actually I don't remember hearing much difference between Permanent Vacation, Pump and Get A Grip.  I thought Get A Grip was great.

[dparrott]

What about Cryptic Writings and Risk by Megadeth?  CW had a few good songs but it was the start of a descent for me.

[Cool Chris]

Not a huge disappointment since I was never a big fan of theirs, but Circus Maximus, Nine. The 1st Chapter was a tremendous debut, let's pretend they didn't release a WDaDU and call it their I&W. Then they follow it up with their Awake; a more mature, refined album in Isolate. They have found their sound and are plowing full steam ahead. Then... they release their FII; with a significant drop in quality in their album Nine. Unfortunately, they didn't follow that up with their SFaM as a solid return to form. They released Havoc, an even worse album.

[Art]

What about Cryptic Writings and Risk by Megadeth?  CW had a few good songs but it was the start of a descent for me.

I liked CW at the time.  Seemed like a natural step following Youthanasia. When i heard Crush' Em, they lost me. I didn't even bothered with Risk until many years later. I don't hate it, but i still think Crush'Em is completely stupid.

[Moor]

Seventh Wonder - Tiara

I was in love in the TGE in every aspect, but Tiara... no! I tried so hard in vain.

[LCArenas]

Has anyone said Chuckles and Mr. Squeezy?

Because I came here to say Chuckles and Mr. Squeezy.

Vitals by Mutemath was also a letdown for me, but not in such a big scale.

[mikeyd23]

Dream Theater - Octavarium

I just didn't get this album at all, and still dislike it.

That's an interesting one for me. I discovered DT with LaB. After discovering that live record, I went back and got ToT. That vibe is what I thought of when I thought DT. I was also a high school kid who played guitar. When 8V came out, I was so disappointed. It felt completely different and I didn't get it at all.

Now, all these years later, I've grown to love 8V though, it's aged really well for me.

[Phoenix87x]

Audioslave: Revelations




I remember the day I bought it and after the first listen was like "well, I guess they're done..."  Its a far cry from the excellent debut which is still one of my favorite albums. And honestly, Out of exile is pretty weak as well, but does have some decent tracks. You can see the cracks starting to form there, but I was still so big into them, that I overlooked them at the time. Revelations on the other hand was a major disappointment right off the bat.

Audioslave started off SO strong with that debut, and I was ready to be a die hard fan for years, but they spent that force REAL quick, and fell
apart

[MoraWintersoul]

I won't shoot you, and opinions are opinions, but DIADL is miles better than either Disconnected or FWX!  In fact, I cited Disconnected as a huge disappointment earlier in the thread.

I consider Disconnected an EP.

You two are cuckoo bananas