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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasnít been around
« Reply #2345 on: April 15, 2021, 08:53:29 AM »
Monument is just incredible. But I say that about a lot of Fates material.  :lol
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« Reply #2346 on: April 15, 2021, 09:34:46 AM »
Monument is just incredible. But I say that about a lot of Fates material.  :lol

It's such an eclectic song, and everything meshes together so cohesively.

For me, 6 of the 10 tracks on Inside Out are exceptional.  Island in the Stream is the big dud (something Parallels doesn't have), and Inward Bound is a bit of wasted space between Face the Fear and Monument, and the only reason I wouldn't skip it is if I don't have a free hand.  The Strand is IO's version of We Only Say Goodbye.  Not bad songs, but they're dwarfed by most of the rest of their respective albums.  Afterglow is nice, but it's kind of anticlimactic after Monument.  I think if you dropped Island from the album and put Afterglow in the same spot and let the album finish with Monument, I might rank IO higher than Parallels.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasnít been around
« Reply #2347 on: April 15, 2021, 12:25:29 PM »
Theories of Flight and Long Day Good Night are now my two favorite Fates Warning albums and I've been a fan since the release of No Exit


These last two albums are almost like a tour of all the things I like best about this band, both albums are rifftastic  :hefdaddy

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« Reply #2348 on: April 15, 2021, 09:41:25 PM »
I don't mind Inside Out, but to me maybe the biggest issue with it is how many of the songs sound very similar; i.e. if i heard sample clips from most of the songs randomly, I would likely not be able to distinguish them from each other.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasnít been around
« Reply #2349 on: April 15, 2021, 11:08:54 PM »
Theories of Flight and Long Day Good Night are now my two favorite Fates Warning albums and I've been a fan since the release of No Exit


These last two albums are almost like a tour of all the things I like best about this band, both albums are rifftastic  :hefdaddy

Yeah, the band's been on a hot streak since 2016. Or even as far back as 2011, if we factor in Arch/Matheos too. Theories of Flight and Live Over Europe in particular have been absolutely monstrous contributions to Fates Warning's discography IMO.

As for IO, I'm not sure where I'd rank the album as a whole, but I will say that "Pale Fire" is quite possibly the Fates song I listen to most often. It's not quite my favorite, but it's such an excellent example of Fates' short-lengthed tracks in the Alder era.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasnít been around
« Reply #2350 on: May 18, 2021, 08:05:53 AM »
Some Bobby Jarzombek news:

"Iím very proud to announce that I am now playing drums for the legendary country music artist George Strait. As the newest member of his ĎAce In The Holeí band, last Saturday we played a private event in Austin, TX and everything was awesome!
I am so glad to be here! Really looking forward to the future with George and the guys!"

Glad to see Bobby J have some success. He is a massive country fan and plays weekend gigs in the San Antonio area. Wonder what this does to Fates Warning although it's not like George Strait tours a lot though.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasnít been around
« Reply #2351 on: May 18, 2021, 08:31:24 AM »
I heard George was going to sing on their new album. Theyíre calling it







Straits Warning.










Iím sorry.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasnít been around
« Reply #2352 on: May 18, 2021, 09:29:34 AM »
Fuck me sideways  :rollin

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« Reply #2353 on: May 18, 2021, 02:30:38 PM »
Iím sorry.

You fucking should be.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasnít been around
« Reply #2355 on: May 18, 2021, 03:29:29 PM »
I heard George was going to sing on their new album. Theyíre calling it







Straits Warning.










Iím sorry.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasnít been around
« Reply #2356 on: May 18, 2021, 03:59:44 PM »
I heard George was going to sing on their new album. Theyíre calling it







Straits Warning.










Iím sorry.

What if Mark Knopfler joins them as a live guitarist?  Would they be called Dire Straits Warning?   :neverusethis:

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasnít been around
« Reply #2357 on: May 18, 2021, 04:03:28 PM »
They should cover Distant Early Warning.

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« Reply #2358 on: May 18, 2021, 08:50:50 PM »
They should cover Distant Early Warning.

They should do it in the morning over Zoom.
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« Reply #2359 on: May 20, 2021, 09:14:41 AM »
Bobby is playing the ACL fest in Austin as George Strait is one of the headliners.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasnít been around
« Reply #2360 on: May 20, 2021, 02:32:38 PM »
I had no idea until the other day, The Flower Kings "The Rainmaker" artwork is done by Ioannis, the same artist who did APSOG. And when you look at the artwork of both of those albums, the style is rather similar.

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« Reply #2361 on: May 20, 2021, 03:25:38 PM »
I had no idea until the other day, The Flower Kings "The Rainmaker" artwork is done by Ioannis, the same artist who did APSOG. And when you look at the artwork of both of those albums, the style is rather similar.

He also did Awaken the Guardian and Night on Brocken I believe. If you see his portfolio, his work is very distinctive. He also did the artwork for DT's WDADU.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasnít been around
« Reply #2362 on: May 21, 2021, 10:01:34 AM »
Yep. Ioannis also did the artwork for FWX and Live in Athens. I have two custom-oversized framed prints of two different Live in Athens pieces that he made for my wife and I in our hallway and living room. I have an APSOG one that is in my office.

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« Reply #2366 on: July 21, 2021, 08:54:40 PM »
Iím all over this

https://bravewords.com/news/fates-warning-author-jeff-wagner-to-release-new-book-destination-onward-the-story-of-fates-warning?fbclid=IwAR1G4DG9h4hatT18MqgQ8NpDAL__YfggNAYBrWICi6RuR4tTy-kKW35_So4

I'll be picking that up as well. It is almost predictable that Jeff Wagner would write this, but I'm sure there'll be a lot of new information and stories he's never written about.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasnít been around
« Reply #2367 on: July 22, 2021, 04:24:46 AM »
Is Jeff Wagner someone known?
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« Reply #2368 on: July 22, 2021, 08:19:03 AM »
Is Jeff Wagner someone known?

I'm not sure how well known he is - I have read his book "Mean Deviation: Four Decades of Progressive Heavy Metal" a few years back and enjoyed it.

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« Reply #2369 on: July 22, 2021, 08:39:47 AM »
Is Jeff Wagner someone known?

I'm not sure how well known he is - I have read his book "Mean Deviation: Four Decades of Progressive Heavy Metal" a few years back and enjoyed it.

he's done other stuff, namely being an editor for Metal Maniacs and more recently working for Inside Out Music.

he also has a podcast called Radical Research:

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« Reply #2370 on: July 22, 2021, 01:10:24 PM »
Wagner is a hell of a writer. Can't wait for the Fates book!  :metal
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« Reply #2371 on: July 22, 2021, 01:38:27 PM »

he also has a podcast called Radical Research:

http://radicalresearch.org/

Thank you for this, I'll have to check it out!

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« Reply #2373 on: July 28, 2021, 09:15:12 PM »
Wow, I didn't see this coming! Looking forward to it, of course. I'm a big fan of Zonder's playing and Ray is the best there is.
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« Reply #2374 on: July 28, 2021, 10:31:29 PM »
sounds intriguing, however I'm not going to assume anything per the songwriting for me often is key.

Sadly, every project Zonder's done outside of FW has done very little for me. The most recent, the ZW Band, I honestly got terribly bored by it.

Slavior was quite forgettable as well.

It's a plus having Ray sing in this band, but I guess I tend to see Jim Matheos being a huge part of the quality of the Fates songs (and also Terry Brown in some instances).

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« Reply #2375 on: July 28, 2021, 10:37:54 PM »
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« Reply #2376 on: July 29, 2021, 08:21:15 AM »
sounds intriguing, however I'm not going to assume anything per the songwriting for me often is key.

Sadly, every project Zonder's done outside of FW has done very little for me. The most recent, the ZW Band, I honestly got terribly bored by it.

Slavior was quite forgettable as well.

It's a plus having Ray sing in this band, but I guess I tend to see Jim Matheos being a huge part of the quality of the Fates songs (and also Terry Brown in some instances).

Pretty much my thoughts plus TACs thoughts as well lol.

The good thing is that Viv, Joop and Ray have very good melodical sense so I hope they bring that up in the songwriting.
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« Reply #2377 on: July 30, 2021, 05:05:41 AM »

It's a plus having Ray sing in this band, but I guess I tend to see Jim Matheos being a huge part of the quality of the Fates songs (and also Terry Brown in some instances).

Yes but Ray has a good ear for a song and his 2019 solo album proved that beyond any doubt ;)