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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2065 on: April 26, 2021, 01:29:50 PM »
As for Edguy I'm pretty sure I've never listened to an Edguy album more than once.  It just never did anything for me.

Theater of Salvation  :metal

By FAR the best thing Sammet ever did and my favorite power metal album of all time.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2066 on: April 26, 2021, 04:17:00 PM »
As for Edguy I'm pretty sure I've never listened to an Edguy album more than once.  It just never did anything for me.

Theater of Salvation  :metal

By FAR the best thing Sammet ever did and my favorite power metal album of all time.

That is indeed a classic power metal album.

As for Edguy, I hope they are not finished.  Big fan.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2067 on: April 26, 2021, 04:48:17 PM »
I never got into Edguy so I've got no personal issue if they just disbanded, but as far as I know, they are officially on hiatus and it certainly seems like Tobi could do both but my guess is since Avantasia are more popular, that's where his attention is and I can't blame him both from a personal and logical perspective.  I do feel bad for the fans who like Edguy a lot.  I'd be pretty upset if a favorite musician/band changed focus.

I just hope I can actually see Avantasia live again.  I list their NYC show (almost from 5 years ago today) as one of my all time favorite concerts.  This made me go back to watch my clips https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKX-ityao94 They are SUCH a good live band.  The Worcester show from last tour was also really good, but hard to replicate the first time seeing a band live so while amazing, it doesn't rank as high as an all time favorite concert.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2068 on: April 26, 2021, 05:30:22 PM »
I feel for the other 3 guys in Edguy.  At least Felix got the Avantasia gig.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2069 on: April 27, 2021, 07:50:35 AM »
Yeah, that's a bummer.  Maybe I'll revisit some of the Edguy material.  I don't recall disliking it.  I just never really gave those albums a lot of my attention.  That may have only been bad timing.




wolfking, what would you recommend as a good place to start with Edguy if I want to get reintroduced to the group?

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2070 on: April 27, 2021, 07:54:01 AM »
Basically the Edguy / Avantasia situation is a bit like the Savatage / Trans Siberian Orchestra one. The "other" band, the project that started to be a more diverse and collaborative effort grows so much in popularity that eats away time and resources for the original band, to the point that it becomes the only band commercially viable.
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2071 on: April 27, 2021, 08:45:31 AM »
what would you recommend as a good place to start with Edguy if I want to get reintroduced to the group?
Right here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbuLKlhgung

My personal favorites from that album are "Wake Up the King" and "The Unbeliever" although the title track is the epic of the album.


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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2072 on: April 27, 2021, 04:11:57 PM »
Basically the Edguy / Avantasia situation is a bit like the Savatage / Trans Siberian Orchestra one.

That's an interesting comparison. I agree.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2073 on: April 27, 2021, 04:15:06 PM »
what would you recommend as a good place to start with Edguy if I want to get reintroduced to the group?
Right here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbuLKlhgung

My personal favorites from that album are "Wake Up the King" and "The Unbeliever" although the title track is the epic of the album.

Babylon is a textbook definition of power metal if you ask me.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2074 on: April 27, 2021, 04:16:40 PM »
That's a great song.

Been ages since I've heard it, but I didn't think the rest of Theater Of Salvation measured up.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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« Reply #2075 on: April 27, 2021, 04:18:14 PM »
That's a great song.

Been ages since I've heard it, but I didn't think the rest of Theater Of Salvation measured up.

I can definitely see that. 

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I've been listening to The Scarecrow a whole lot in the past week or so, and it's an album that just keeps getting better and better for me with every listen. I want to check out more Avantasia albums because I'm really liking this one, but at the same time, The Scarecrow is just keeping me so occupied that I can't simply go and listen to their other albums.

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I've been listening to The Scarecrow a whole lot in the past week or so, and it's an album that just keeps getting better and better for me with every listen. I want to check out more Avantasia albums because I'm really liking this one, but at the same time, The Scarecrow is just keeping me so occupied that I can't simply go and listen to their other albums.

It's a wonderful album that's aged very well.

Check out Ghostlights and The Metal Operas if you like the power metal thing.

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Scarecrow is definitely a top Avantasia album, enjoy it  :metal But once you are ready, do move on.  They have lots of awesome albums that I'm sure you will enjoy. 

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I've been listening to Avantasia myself a lot recently. The Scarecrow has never been one of my favorites, though. I just always felt like it fell off the in the second half—I think mainly because I'm not at all into The Toy Master.

I have finally been giving The Wicked Symphony its due, though, and I'm really enjoying that one. It's probably my third favorite after Ghostlights and The Mystery of Time (I'm very much into the "third phase" for this band).

What are folks' thoughts on Angel of Babylon? I've never gotten around to it because universal consensus says it's a weaker entry, but I'm thinking it might be nice to finish the trilogy. How much weaker do people think it is than the previous two, and would you say it's worth it anyway?
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What are folks' thoughts on Angel of Babylon? I've never gotten around to it because universal consensus says it's a weaker entry, but I'm thinking it might be nice to finish the trilogy. How much weaker do people think it is than the previous two, and would you say it's worth it anyway?

If you think The Scarecrow gets weaker in the second half, wait until you hear Angel of Babylon. :P
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What are folks' thoughts on Angel of Babylon? I've never gotten around to it because universal consensus says it's a weaker entry, but I'm thinking it might be nice to finish the trilogy. How much weaker do people think it is than the previous two, and would you say it's worth it anyway?

If you think The Scarecrow gets weaker in the second half, wait until you hear Angel of Babylon. :P

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As someone who only got into Avantasia in the last year or so I think Angel is the weakest album - in fact in places it feels more like an Edguy album.  However it's still worth checking out because it has one Stella track in 'Promised Land' which is worth it alone, one of Tobias best songs period.  Besides that the first 4 tracks are all solid too good as is the final track.....but tracks 5 - 9 are all a bit ermmm yeah, not so good.

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As someone who only got into Avantasia in the last year or so I think Angel is the weakest album - in fact in places it feels more like an Edguy album.  However it's still worth checking out because it has one Stella track in 'Promised Land' which is worth it alone, one of Tobias best songs period.  Besides that the first 4 tracks are all solid too good as is the final track.....but tracks 5 - 9 are all a bit ermmm yeah, not so good.

Yeah, I agree with this.  Album starts off good and just kind of loses it.  I think it's likely my least favorite as well.

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What are folks' thoughts on Angel of Babylon? I've never gotten around to it because universal consensus says it's a weaker entry, but I'm thinking it might be nice to finish the trilogy. How much weaker do people think it is than the previous two, and would you say it's worth it anyway?

If you think The Scarecrow gets weaker in the second half, wait until you hear Angel of Babylon. :P

As someone who only got into Avantasia in the last year or so I think Angel is the weakest album - in fact in places it feels more like an Edguy album.  However it's still worth checking out because it has one Stella track in 'Promised Land' which is worth it alone, one of Tobias best songs period.  Besides that the first 4 tracks are all solid too good as is the final track.....but tracks 5 - 9 are all a bit ermmm yeah, not so good.

Yeah, I agree with this.  Album starts off good and just kind of loses it.  I think it's likely my least favorite as well.

I'm gonna do it because it sounds like there's at least half a good album there, including a couple of different tracks that people are calling can't-miss, but I will consider myself warned. :lol Thanks, folks!
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It's definitely worth checking out though if you want to keep exploring Avantasia.  Who knows, maybe you will enjoy it more than others. 

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I've been into Avantasia for a while, the impetus now is mainly that I've usually focused on the last three albums (well, it was last two when I got into them, since that was before Moonglow came out), and now I'm becoming more interested in the earlier era. For whatever reason, when I first listened to Wicked Symphony a few years ago, I couldn't get into it, so between that and finding The Scarecrow a bit uneven, Angel wasn't really a consideration. Now that I've gotten into TWS, my interest in that era has grown.
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