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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2030 on: November 13, 2020, 09:28:34 AM »
Is the mask mandatory so you know where your teeth will be after the fight? My blood pressure is rising reading that post  :lol
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2031 on: November 13, 2020, 10:08:09 AM »
I've given The Mystery of Time a couple of spins today and it's definetly growing on me.....One thing though when listening to 'What's Left of Me' I keep finding myself singing...

"Don't want to close my eyes
I don't want to fall asleep
'Cause I'd miss you baby
And I don't want to miss a thing"

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As always when you discover a new band with a big discography is it's so hard to soak it all in, everytime I listen to one of the albums I keep finding more great songs - and I still haven't touched the Metal Opera's yet!

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2032 on: November 13, 2020, 01:31:47 PM »
Still, to me, TMOT is the definitive Avantasia album.

I don't think the same, but I have no problem with this statement.
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2033 on: November 13, 2020, 03:22:33 PM »
Still, to me, TMOT is the definitive Avantasia album.

I don't think the same, but I have no problem with this statement.

Agreed. Ghostlights for me. TMOT right behind, then Scarecrow.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2034 on: November 13, 2020, 03:46:53 PM »
Still, to me, TMOT is the definitive Avantasia album.

I don't think the same, but I have no problem with this statement.

Agreed. Ghostlights for me. TMOT right behind, then Scarecrow.

I fine with this too.
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2035 on: November 13, 2020, 08:59:52 PM »
All I know is that The Metal Opera albums are definitely NOT definitive Avantasia.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2036 on: November 13, 2020, 11:07:31 PM »
There is something in the water up there.
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2037 on: November 13, 2020, 11:22:05 PM »
All I know is that The Metal Opera albums are definitely NOT definitive Avantasia.

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I have a problem with this statement however.
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2038 on: November 14, 2020, 05:54:57 AM »
All I know is that The Metal Opera albums are definitely NOT definitive Avantasia.

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I have a problem with this statement however.

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Hence the combo-breaker!
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2039 on: November 14, 2020, 10:04:19 PM »
Ghostlights is my favorite Avantasia album, but I'd put The Mystery of Time at a pretty close second.

I have not heard Angel of Babylon or The Metal Opera, however.
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2040 on: November 15, 2020, 02:05:53 AM »
The Scarecrow is my favorite, but I do love/like all Avantasia albums!

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2041 on: November 15, 2020, 03:31:54 AM »
Hmmm....

Metal Opera 1
Scarecrow
Ghostlights
Mystery of Time
Metal Opera 2
Wicked Symphony
Angel of Babylon
Moonglow

Maybe.
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2042 on: November 15, 2020, 04:13:05 AM »
While I do agree that Moonglow is not nearly as good as Ghostlights, but at the bottom of your list Wolf?

Looking back, Ghostlights is a lot more consistently good, but Moonglow still has some gems inside. Like the Geoff Tate song and Piper at the Gates Of Dawn.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2043 on: November 15, 2020, 04:17:36 AM »
While I do agree that Moonglow is not nearly as good as Ghostlights, but at the bottom of your list Wolf?

Looking back, Ghostlights is a lot more consistently good, but Moonglow still has some gems inside. Like the Geoff Tate song and Piper at the Gates Of Dawn.

I've tried a few times now, but on a whole, it just does nothing for me at all.  I was so disappointed by it and I've gone back to it but I find it very underwhelming.  I think it doesn't help that the Avantasia sound is getting pretty predictable and samey.  Tobi needs a shakeup.
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2044 on: November 15, 2020, 07:13:30 AM »
While I do agree that Moonglow is not nearly as good as Ghostlights, but at the bottom of your list Wolf?

Looking back, Ghostlights is a lot more consistently good, but Moonglow still has some gems inside. Like the Geoff Tate song and Piper at the Gates Of Dawn.

I've tried a few times now, but on a whole, it just does nothing for me at all.  I was so disappointed by it and I've gone back to it but I find it very underwhelming.  I think it doesn't help that the Avantasia sound is getting pretty predictable and samey.  Tobi needs a shakeup.

No matter what's at the bottom of everyone's list, it's still a pretty damn good album.
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2045 on: November 15, 2020, 08:07:19 AM »
Still salty that every singer who sang on Piper was on the Moonglow tour at the Chicago show but they didn't play it. WTF, I love that song so much  :censored
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2046 on: November 15, 2020, 08:29:00 AM »
Still salty that every singer who sang on Piper was on the Moonglow tour at the Chicago show but they didn't play it. WTF, I love that song so much  :censored

That's nothing compared to having on tour Lande, Kiske and Catley and not playing Runaway Train (which happened, but not at my show  :D)
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2047 on: November 15, 2020, 08:30:14 AM »
Still salty that every singer who sang on Piper was on the Moonglow tour at the Chicago show but they didn't play it. WTF, I love that song so much  :censored

That's nothing compared to having on tour Lande, Kiske and Catley and not playing Runaway Train (which happened, but not at my show  :D)

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That is a bonkers decision to leave it off any show. I hope next time Avantasia comes through they play that. It's a favorite of mine.
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2048 on: November 15, 2020, 09:42:24 AM »
Ghostlights is at the top for me, the debut at the bottom. That one being at the bottom is more of a style thing than quality, I simply enjoy the type of music of later Avantasia albums more.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2049 on: November 15, 2020, 12:02:04 PM »
The more I listen to this band the more I find to love.  Ghostlights remains my favorite - but The Wicked Symphony has really come to life for me and moved into second spot.....Scales of Justice, Dying for an Angel, Runaway Train and Crestfalled are all among my favorite Avantasia songs - and the other songs all range from great to good, nothing on this album is close to bad.....maybe the only downside is it lacks an epic album closer 'The Edge' is good, but prehaps not the best album closer.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2050 on: November 15, 2020, 01:05:18 PM »
The Edge is a great ballad.
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2051 on: November 16, 2020, 10:53:47 AM »
Ghostlights is at the top for me, the debut at the bottom. That one being at the bottom is more of a style thing than quality, I simply enjoy the type of music of later Avantasia albums more.

Yea, exactly the same for me.  I enjoy the style of the newer albums vs the style of the first two, which is why I would also place them at the bottom.

Ghostlights
TMOT
Scarecrow
Wicked Symphony
Moonglow
Angel of Babylon
Metal Opera 1
Metal Opera 2

I don't think there's a bad album here though.

I think it doesn't help that the Avantasia sound is getting pretty predictable and samey.  Tobi needs a shakeup.

I do think this has become the case too.  A lot of the new material isn't fresh anymore.

It should be noted that Tobi and Sascha have been working on the next album during the pandemic. 

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2052 on: November 16, 2020, 12:41:07 PM »
I tend to think of Moonglow as an album that starts off very strong and then peters out a little bit. Not too badly, but noticeably. The best songs on that album are The Raven Child, Ghost in the Moon and Book of Shallows. But when I actually listen to those later songs, I find myself thinking they're stronger than I remembered.
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2053 on: November 16, 2020, 12:43:12 PM »
I tend to think of Moonglow as an album that starts off very strong and then peters out a little bit. Not too badly, but noticeably. The best songs on that album are The Raven Child, Ghost in the Moon and Book of Shallows. But when I actually listen to those later songs, I find myself thinking they're stronger than I remembered.

I think the back half grew on me a bit but I still feel the same, that it starts out strong and loses momentum.

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would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2056 on: April 26, 2021, 04:29:09 AM »
Really hope this is better than the last one.
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« Reply #2057 on: April 26, 2021, 04:45:58 AM »
I personally listen more to Ghostlights and Moonglow than any other Avantasia album, love them both. My only wish is for Tobias to sing less and give the other vocalists more time to shine.

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« Reply #2058 on: April 26, 2021, 04:50:22 AM »
Ghostlights is near the top for me, but Moonglow is at the very bottom.
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2059 on: April 26, 2021, 06:30:00 AM »
Ghostlights is near the top for me, but Moonglow is at the very bottom.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2060 on: April 26, 2021, 06:30:47 AM »
Moonglow wasn't that bad IMO.  It just wasn't as good as their previous two albums so it felt a bit like a letdown.  Not at all close to their worst IMO.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2061 on: April 26, 2021, 10:27:09 AM »
I like moonglow the most. Ghostlights is a close second tho.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2062 on: April 26, 2021, 10:29:58 AM »
Moonglow is very hit or miss IMO, but I have no idea how someone could place it lower than Angel of Babylon..

Moonglow at least has a few bangers like Raven Child and Book of Shallows.


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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2063 on: April 26, 2021, 12:38:10 PM »
I had no idea that Moonglow was so polarizing!  :lol   


This band has yet to produce an album I don't like. 


I haven't listened to them in quite some time so I can't say for sure how I'd rank the albums but to me they're all pretty even. 




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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread v New album - Moonglow - Feb 1st!!
« Reply #2064 on: April 26, 2021, 12:39:04 PM »
As for Edguy I'm pretty sure I've never listened to an Edguy album more than once.  It just never did anything for me.