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Do you like Raw Dog?
« on: March 02, 2010, 05:58:26 PM »
With a lot of people complaining in the other Raw Dog thread it got me wondering how many members of the forum actually like it and how many don't.  I personally think its a good insturmental, I'm not sure where it ranks among previous DT insturmentals but it's up there with the best of em in my opinion.

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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2010, 06:10:35 PM »
Yes! More than I was expecting. Which I hate to say, it makes me sound like one of those ming-mongs who've grown old and jaded, but I was just expecting a nifty but forgettable little footnote. A silly little apostrophe in the book of Dream Theater. Shame on me, really. I always love B-Sides. The little hidden treasures. I've been a fool! But I just wasn't anticipating this much rock.

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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2010, 06:15:26 PM »
It's extremely  :metal :metal :metal worthy.
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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2010, 06:23:35 PM »
It's hard to break down into a yes or no answer. I like the parts of the song, I just don't like it AS a song.
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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2010, 06:24:07 PM »
I'm one of those people that loves older style DT much more. Although, I also really dig RD for what it is, an in-your-face, brutal track. It's satisfying. When I'm in that kind of mood, it's the perfect song.

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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2010, 06:26:27 PM »
I like it.  There are at least a couple of ways to look at it:

1.  On one hand, it's an instrumental song written for a video game.  From that perspective, I don't have high expectations.  I view it as almost sort of a throw-away."  In the context of what it was written for, it's outstanding and exceeds expectations.

2.  On the other hand, what if this had shown up somewhere as an album track?  I just have completely different expectations of a song in that context.  But how would I feel about it?  Well, actually, I would still listen to it, and I think it would fit pretty well as a cool instrumental album track.

So either way, I like it, and I am pleasantly surprised that I like it.
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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2010, 06:26:37 PM »
I would commit audio bestiality just to be with this Raw Dog  :heart :heart
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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2010, 06:28:25 PM »
AYE! It might be a little confusing at the start, but then it has a definitely  :metal and harmonic part that makes the whole song awesome. I don't love it (It has no comparison point with SoC or Erotomania) but I like it a lot.

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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2010, 06:33:23 PM »
I always love B-Sides. The little hidden treasures.
I ADORE B-Sides. They're just so... Awesome.
I'm not sure what it is! It's like they're part of an alternate reality, almost. "This is what could have been." Sure, I sometimes harp on "oh I wish this was on the actual album," but honestly I really like that they're secrets. Like a reward for digging about. A whole song you never knew existed. Wonderful. Really interesting.

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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2010, 06:34:54 PM »
The sound fits the style for that type of videogame. So for a game I like it.
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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2010, 06:41:12 PM »
not my cup o' tea
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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2010, 07:06:12 PM »
 I think it's pretty cool. Nothing that I would listen to any more often thatn their other instrumentals, but it's pretty creative in its own sense. I can't wait to hear it live some day.  :P

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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2010, 07:08:58 PM »
Overall no.

It fits the video game perfectly, and for that reason I would say yes.

However, I wouldnt want to hear it outside of the game, so overall no.
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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2010, 07:17:29 PM »
Nope. It just sounds like a bunch of random stuff thrown together, and DT trying to be heavier than they can convincingly pull off.

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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2010, 07:24:23 PM »
I like it, it sounds a bit rushed and sometimes random but Rudess is the champion who gave it an appeal to be honest.
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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2010, 07:25:15 PM »
Yes, I do. In the beggining I was really taken over the "OMG, NEW MATERIAL kind of feeling" and I though it was awesome but a little bit weird. I criticize the fact the song looks like a big collection of riffs to me (which is the opposite of what DT does with the awesome transitiions in their albums) but the brutality and metal of the song really surprised me in a good way, I donīt remember feeling so astonished by the metal content in a DT song since The Dark Eternal Night, so for the purposes of the EP, DT definably got it, it is for me the best track in the EP.
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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2010, 07:31:48 PM »
Is the the track length 7:31? mine is and it feels like it cuts off suddenly..
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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2010, 07:45:40 PM »
in the middle of my 5th listen right now...for its purposes in the game, I think it is good, but not sure if I would use it as a means to turn someone onto DT

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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2010, 08:34:42 PM »
I really don't like it much at all. It just seems like a bunch of riffs joined together. The parts don't flow at all. I really like the Maiden section though. I also don't get why people say it works in the context of the game. GOW games have never been about metal music at all. I wish there was a strong melody to carry the song, like in Hell's Kitchen or Stream of Consciousness. Raw Dog is just disjointed and it sounds... lazy. I seem to be in the minority, but there seems to be no thought put into songwriting for this.

It's also inexcusable that the outro is what it is. I mean seriously?

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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2010, 08:41:59 PM »
I like it.  I can see where it kind of plateaus tho.  the beginning is the most interesting part.
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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2010, 08:44:03 PM »
I definitely like this track. Experimental, heavy, but it works to me.

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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2010, 09:16:54 PM »
I like the track.  It's fun and over before you know it.

I HATE the production quality though.  Looking forward to a live recording.

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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2010, 09:33:33 PM »
Yes! More than I was expecting. Which I hate to say, it makes me sound like one of those ming-mongs who've grown old and jaded, but I was just expecting a nifty but forgettable little footnote. A silly little apostrophe in the book of Dream Theater. Shame on me, really. I always love B-Sides. The little hidden treasures. I've been a fool! But I just wasn't anticipating this much rock.

(Also pleased to report that "suck" and "gay" are all the way down.)

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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2010, 09:52:10 PM »
I like it.  I'm listening to it continuously on repeat right now.  It's got so much going on, though -- it's just so wicked crazy -- that I am unable to say much more at this time.

Do y'all think the track will result in a lot of new Dream Theater fans?


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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2010, 09:57:18 PM »
I like it but I hope that its not the direction the band will continue to go.

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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2010, 10:01:13 PM »
i prefer them cooked.

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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2010, 10:08:03 PM »
I need to create a new word meaning both evil and awesome to describe the intro.

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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2010, 10:10:08 PM »
Not a fan, but I doubt it is an indication of any direction they are headed in, as I am sure they just wanted to do a really heavy song, so I wouldn't worry too much...it is just one song.

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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2010, 10:10:47 PM »
Listening to it live first time right now: Times might be messed up

0:00 - 1:00  Extremely unforgettable, nothing interesting about this chugging
1:00 - 2:00  A pretty silly melody, both in melodically and tonally.  
2:00 - 3:00  Not too thrilled with this guitar solo
3:00 - 4:00  Loved when it picked up, kept things interesting. Fantastic work by JP
4:00 - 5:00  A lot of mindless shredding, nothing new from JR.  Enjoyed the drumming
6:00 - 7:00  Too many time changes... Really breaks the song up, don't flow as well as it usually does in DT songs
7:00 -         Just a lot of noise

I hated this as a piece of music to listen to.  Good background music for a game... maybe...  So I guess mission accomplished on their end.  I'm betting I will never listen to that again tho.

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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2010, 10:11:04 PM »
I need to create a new word meaning both evil and awesome to describe the intro.


awvil?

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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2010, 10:13:15 PM »
I need to create a new word meaning both evil and awesome to describe the intro.

awvil?

awevil

You have to keep the e.

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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2010, 10:13:47 PM »
hmmm...yeah you are right

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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2010, 10:14:50 PM »
I was hoping we just say its Rudess as fuck, yo.

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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2010, 10:21:28 PM »
I was hoping we just say its Rudess as fuck, yo.

That would also work.  RAFY. 

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Re: Do you like Raw Dog?
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2010, 10:25:05 PM »
Intro sounds Messhugah, so automatic AYE.
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