Images & Words vs. Octavarium -- song by song

[austin]

4) Never Enough
5) Sacrificed Sons
6) Octavarium

wat

wut

wit

-Marc.

wet

[black_biff_stadler]

4) Never Enough
5) Sacrificed Sons
6) Octavarium

wat

wut

WTF seriously?

Yes. VERY seriously. It's possible that Blob Van Dam would choose Awake as the only album he could take with him on a deserted island where he'd be stranded for life before I ever warm up to that song. Calling it anything better than average is sacrilege in my opinion. I don't like speaking this harshly about an apparent DTF sacred cow but I sometimes feel I need to be as brutally frank as possible on the matter to help my skeptics realize that I'm steadfast on the issue and that we'll have to agree to disagree.

I have no problem whatsoever with others liking it but it simply isn't my cup of tea or even murky tap water for that matter and no I'm not trying to troll I just get a touch annoyed at how folks freak out when I express my true opinion about it.

[BlobVanDam]

Hey now, black_floyd, I'm all for opinions, but don't you dare compare it to my Awake hate!



Ah who am I kidding? I just like being mentioned

[austin]

Yes. VERY seriously. It's possible that Blob Van Dam would choose Awake as the only album he could take with him on a deserted island where he'd be stranded for life before I ever warm up to that song. Calling it anything better than average is sacrilege in my opinion. I don't like speaking this harshly about an apparent DTF sacred cow but I sometimes feel I need to be as brutally frank as possible on the matter to help my skeptics realize that I'm steadfast on the issue and that we'll have to agree to disagree.

I have no problem whatsoever with others liking it but it simply isn't my cup of tea or even murky tap water for that matter and no I'm not trying to troll I just get a touch annoyed at how folks freak out when I express my true opinion about it.

I totally respect your opinion and get what you mean and everything. I just find it immensely surprising. 

[black_biff_stadler]

Yes. VERY seriously. It's possible that Blob Van Dam would choose Awake as the only album he could take with him on a deserted island where he'd be stranded for life before I ever warm up to that song. Calling it anything better than average is sacrilege in my opinion. I don't like speaking this harshly about an apparent DTF sacred cow but I sometimes feel I need to be as brutally frank as possible on the matter to help my skeptics realize that I'm steadfast on the issue and that we'll have to agree to disagree.

I have no problem whatsoever with others liking it but it simply isn't my cup of tea or even murky tap water for that matter and no I'm not trying to troll I just get a touch annoyed at how folks freak out when I express my true opinion about it.

I totally respect your opinion and get what you mean and everything. I just find it immensely surprising. 

Word. No worries brah 

[millahh]

4) Never Enough
5) Sacrificed Sons
6) Octavarium

wat

wut

WTF seriously?

Yes. VERY seriously. It's possible that Blob Van Dam would choose Awake as the only album he could take with him on a deserted island where he'd be stranded for life before I ever warm up to that song. Calling it anything better than average is sacrilege in my opinion. I don't like speaking this harshly about an apparent DTF sacred cow but I sometimes feel I need to be as brutally frank as possible on the matter to help my skeptics realize that I'm steadfast on the issue and that we'll have to agree to disagree.

I have no problem whatsoever with others liking it but it simply isn't my cup of tea or even murky tap water for that matter and no I'm not trying to troll I just get a touch annoyed at how folks freak out when I express my true opinion about it.

I'm glad I'm not alone in not understanding why the song is so loved.  Though I am suprised you ranked it below NE, which may be my single least favorite DT song.

[Dr. DTVT]

1. Learning to Live
2. Metropolis Pt. 1
3. Octavarium
4. Pull Me Under
5. Another Day
6. Surrounded
7. Take The Time
8. Under A Glass Moon
9. These Walls
10. The Root of All Evil
11. Wait for Sleep
12. I Walk Beside You
13. Panic Attack
14. The Answer Lies Within
15. Never Enough
16. Sacrificed Sons <- My least favorite DT song among all albums

I just realized I MASSIVELY overrated Octavarium when I did my top 150 albums now.

[Perpetual Change]

Yes. VERY seriously. It's possible that Blob Van Dam would choose Awake as the only album he could take with him on a deserted island where he'd be stranded for life before I ever warm up to that song. Calling it anything better than average is sacrilege in my opinion. I don't like speaking this harshly about an apparent DTF sacred cow but I sometimes feel I need to be as brutally frank as possible on the matter to help my skeptics realize that I'm steadfast on the issue and that we'll have to agree to disagree.

I have no problem whatsoever with others liking it but it simply isn't my cup of tea or even murky tap water for that matter and no I'm not trying to troll I just get a touch annoyed at how folks freak out when I express my true opinion about it.

I totally respect your opinion and get what you mean and everything. I just find it immensely surprising. 

I totally respect your opinion and Imma let you finish, but BlobVanDam has the greatest irrational opinion about a DT work of ALL TIME.

[BlobVanDam]

I can understand not loving Octavarium, but I cannot possibly comprehend thinking NE is better than it. That's easily a bottom 5'er right there.

Yes. VERY seriously. It's possible that Blob Van Dam would choose Awake as the only album he could take with him on a deserted island where he'd be stranded for life before I ever warm up to that song. Calling it anything better than average is sacrilege in my opinion. I don't like speaking this harshly about an apparent DTF sacred cow but I sometimes feel I need to be as brutally frank as possible on the matter to help my skeptics realize that I'm steadfast on the issue and that we'll have to agree to disagree.

I have no problem whatsoever with others liking it but it simply isn't my cup of tea or even murky tap water for that matter and no I'm not trying to troll I just get a touch annoyed at how folks freak out when I express my true opinion about it.

I totally respect your opinion and get what you mean and everything. I just find it immensely surprising. 

I totally respect your opinion and Imma let you finish, but BlobVanDam has the greatest irrational opinion about a DT work of ALL TIME.

It's not irrational. I could give you a damn essay backing it up conclusively.

[black_biff_stadler]

*snip*
I totally respect your opinion and Imma let you finish, but BlobVanDam has the greatest irrational opinion about a DT work of ALL TIME.

I swear to god. Thanks to my disdain for Kanye, these Kanye-rolls never get old to me 

[Perpetual Change]

stuff

Fair enough but let's not go there today 

[BlobVanDam]

Wasn't planning to

[FiberglassMoon]

1.Octavarium
2.Metropolis Pt. 1
3.Learning To Live
4.Surrounded
5.Another Day
6.Take The Time
7.Wait For Sleep
8.Under A Glass Moon
9.Pull Me Under
10.These Walls
11.The Root Of All Evil
12.Never Enough
13.Panic Attack
14.I Walk Beside You
15.The Answer Lies Within
16.Sacrificed Sons

Images and Words is my 2nd favorite album of all time (behind Scenes) so this doesn't surprise me.  I even edited it and it came out more pro-I&W

[juice]

So much love for Images and Words but Octavarium kicks butt too!

1. Octavarium
2. Metropolis Pt 1
3. Learning to Live
4. Take the Time
5. Sacrificed Sons
6. The Root of All Evil
7. Panic Attack
8. Under A Glass Moon
9. I Walk Beside You
10. These Walls
11. Surrounded
12. Never Enough
13. Pull Me Under
14. Another Day
15. Wait for Sleep
16. The Answer Lies Within

[PlaysLikeMyung]

1. Octavarium
2. Learning To Live
3. Metropolis Pt. 1
4. These Walls
5. Surrounded
6. Panic Attack
7. Take The Time
8. The Root Of All Evil
9. Wait For Sleep
10. Never Enough
11. The Answer Lies Within
12. Under A Glass Moon
13. Pull Me Under
14. Sacrificed Sons
15. I Walk Beside You
16. Another Day

[Mebert78]

it simply isn't my cup of tea or even murky tap water for that matter

haha, great line.  I mean, not everyone likes the same song.  it's all good.  I loathe "The Glass Prison" with the fire of a thousand suns, but it's in most everyone else's top five. 

[emindead]

It's not irrational. I could give you a damn essay backing it up conclusively.

I could give you your grade in beforehand. 

[PlaysLikeMyung]

Woah. Is anyone else getting a freaky 3D effect going on because of the red/blue fonts?

[Dublagent66]

Woah. Is anyone else getting a freaky 3D effect going on because of the red/blue fonts?

 

[black_biff_stadler]

Woah. Is anyone else getting a freaky 3D effect going on because of the red/blue fonts?

Ha! No, but after intentionally relaxing my eyes, yeah. I can almost get a slowly waving flag effect if I sit still a good 3 seconds. They oughta consider that combo for 3-D glasses instead of that clear chroma-depth stuff.

[Dr. SeaWolf]

1. "Learning to Live"
2. "Metropolis"
3. "Take the Time"
4. "Surrounded"
5. "Octavarium"
6. "Another Day"
7. "Wait for Sleep"
8. "Under a Glass Moon"
9. "Pull Me Under"
10. "Panic Attack"
11. "The Root of All Evil"
12. "I Walk Beside You"
13. "The Answer Lies Within"
14. "Sacrificed Sons"
15. "These Walls"
16. "Never Enough"

THIS. Definitely.  It's not that I don't like Octavarium, it's that I&W is so amazing.

[Rafael Guerra]

1. Octavarium
2. Metropolis
3. Learning To Live
4. These Walls
5. Take The Time
6. Panic Attack
7. Surrounded
8. The Root Of All Evil
9. I Walk Beside You
10. Another Day
11. Never Enough
12. Under A Glass Moon
13. Pull Me Under
14. Sacrificed Sons
15. Wait For Sleep
16. The Answer Lies Within

Haha, screwed up in the colors. Overall, very balanced. The classics of Images And Words peak amongst the best of DT, so they are naturally peaking here too. Octavarium has LESS amazing tracks IMO, but the title track is THE BEST SONG EVER in my sincere opinion.

[LordCaptainMcKlockenstein]

1. Octavarium
2. Take the Time
3. The Root of All Evil
4. Learning to Live
5. Sacrificed Sons
6. Pull Me Under
7. Another Day
8. These Walls
9. Under a Glass Moon
10. Metropolis
11. Panic Attack
12. The Answer Lies Within
13. Surrounded
14. I Walk Beside You
15. Wait for Sleep
16. Never Enough

[austin]

1. Octavarium
2. Take the Time
3. The Root of All Evil
4. Learning to Live
5. Sacrificed Sons
6. Pull Me Under
7. Another Day
8. These Walls
9. Under a Glass Moon
10. Metropolis
11. Panic Attack
12. The Answer Lies Within
13. Surrounded
14. I Walk Beside You
15. Wait for Sleep
16. Never Enough

good color system 
also I generally like your opinion here.

[BlobVanDam]

good color system 

Not when you're on a light theme I can't read the yellow too well

[LordCaptainMcKlockenstein]

good color system 
also I generally like your opinion here.

Thank you.

good color system 

Not when you're on a light theme I can't read the yellow too well

Pfft. You people and your 'different themes.' Bah. Back in my day* we only knew about one theme and we liked it!

*Tuesday
**Better?

[Sintheros]

Metropolis (Favorite DT Song)
Sacrificed Sons (4th Favorite DT Song, you can go jump off a cliff DTvt )
Octavarium
Learning to Live
Pull Me Under
Panic Attack
These Walls
The Root of All Evil
Surrounded
Never Enough
Take the Time
Wait for Sleep
I Walk Beside You
Under a Glass Moon
Another Day
The Answer Lies Within

Also, top 5 DT songs.

Metropolis
Voices
In the Name of God
Sacrificed Sons
The Glass Prison

*notices how low Under a Glass Moon and TTT are and runs away*

[Dr. SeaWolf]

I'm just disappointed in how low Surrounded is on most people's lists.

[bodiesinflight]

1. Learning To Live
2. Metropolis
3. Octavarium
4. Take The Time
5. Panic Attack
6. Pull Me Under
7. Surrounded
8. Sacrificed Sons
9. The Root Of All Evil
10. Under A Glass Moon
11. Another Day
12. Wait For Sleep
13. These Walls
14. Never Enough
15. The Answer Lies Within
16. I Walk Beside You

[Mitch555]

1.  Octavarium
2.  Metropolis, pt. I
3.  Learning To Live
4.  Take the Time
5.  Pull Me Under
6.  Under a Glass Moon
7.  The Root Of All Evil
8.  Wait For Sleep
9.  Surrounded
10.  These Walls
11.  Another Day
12.  I Walk Beside You
13.  Panic Attack
14.  Sacrificed Sons
15.  Never Enough
16.  The Answer Lies Within

[Nick]

Octavarium
Metropolis Pt. 1
Take The Time
These Walls
Another Day
Surrounded
Learning To Live
Under A Glass Moon
Wait For Sleep
Sacrificed Sons
Pull Me Under
The Root of All Evil
I Walk Beside You
Never Enough
Panic Attack
The Answer Lies Within

Yeah, very lopsided.

[tri.ad]

1. Learning To Live
2. Take The Time
3. Octavarium
4. Metropolis
5. These Walls
6. Pull Me Under
7. Under A Glass Moon
8. The Root Of All Evil
9. Surrounded
10. Another Day
11. Wait For Sleep
12. Sacrificed Sons
13. Panic Attack
14. I Walk Beside You
15. The Answer Lies Within
16. Never Enough

[moffatt]

mine will be very different to others
1.  Octavarium
2.  The Root Of All Evil
3.  Sacrificed Sons
4.  Metropolis, pt. I
5.  Panic Attack
6.  Under a Glass Moon
7.  Pull Me Under
8.  Never Enough
9.  Take The Time
10.  Learning To Live
11.These Walls
12.I Walk Beside You
13.Another Day
14.The Answer Lies Within
15.Wait For Sleep
16. Surrounded
Top 5 are all in my Top 10

[EstyMaJ]

I can't get over how high up on avg I walk beside you Is on the lists , all i can hear when i listen to that song is U2 with JLB on vocals
Sorry but i had to say this is the only DT song I HATE
carry on

[TAC]

I can't get over how high up on avg I walk beside you Is on the lists , all i can hear when i listen to that song is U2 with JLB on vocals
Sorry but i had to say this is the only DT song I HATE
carry on

It's not high on my list, but it's a great live song. Did you see them in Boston in '06? They played it and it kicked ass. My whole attitide towards the song changed.