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Offline LCArenas

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Best JLB Post-Vocal Injury Era?
« on: February 08, 2010, 10:49:49 AM »
Most DT fans agree that 1992-94 was by far the best James LaBrie's era. But then the infamous shrimp poisoning happened and changed his voice drastically; he has however known how to overcome it and be a good singer.

So what JLB's Post-Food Poisoning era do you prefer?
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Re: Best JLB Post-Intoxication Era?
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2010, 10:51:34 AM »
From what I have seen, I'd say that now is his best era since the food poisonning.
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Re: Best JLB Post-Intoxication Era?
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2010, 10:53:46 AM »
I went with 8VM because of Score. I don't know how the rest of the tour faired, but James was ON that night.
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Re: Best JLB Post-Intoxication Era?
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2010, 10:55:37 AM »
I'm gonna say Octavarium/Score.  He sounded pretty good when I saw them last year except for some spots in ANTR and Voices, though.  CiM he sounded horrible though  :(.  Maybe its like an odd/even Star Trek rule thing.
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Re: Best JLB Post-Intoxication Era?
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2010, 11:40:00 AM »
Quote from: LCArenas on February 08, 2010, 10:49:49 AM
infamous clam intoxication happened

???  What are you talking about?
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Re: Best JLB Post-Intoxication Era?
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2010, 11:46:50 AM »
Quote from: bösk1 on February 08, 2010, 11:40:00 AM
Quote from: LCArenas on February 08, 2010, 10:49:49 AM
infamous clam intoxication happened

???  What are you talking about?

This, folks, is why you shouldn't get drunk using alcohol that your buddies poured into a clam.
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Re: Best JLB Post-Intoxication Era?
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2010, 11:48:45 AM »
Quote from: bösk1 on February 08, 2010, 11:40:00 AM
Quote from: LCArenas on February 08, 2010, 10:49:49 AM
infamous clam intoxication happened

???  What are you talking about?

My bad, wrong word ;)
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Re: Best JLB Post-Intoxication Era?
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2010, 11:49:00 AM »
in·tox·i·ca·tion    (ĭn-tŏk'sĭ-kā'shən)    
n.  
1. Stupefaction or excitement by the action of a chemical substance.

2. Exhilaration, excitement, or euphoria.

3. Poisoning by a drug or toxic substance.
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Re: Best JLB Post-Intoxication Era?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2010, 11:50:17 AM »
 :facepalm:
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Re: Best JLB Post-Intoxication Era?
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2010, 11:51:36 AM »
My point was that you used the right word, just not by popular definition.
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Re: Best JLB Post-Intoxication Era?
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2010, 11:53:23 AM »
Quote from: sonatafanica on February 08, 2010, 11:51:36 AM
My point was that you used the right word, just not by popular definition.
Yeah, I know that, the facepalm was for the guys who made me doubt :)
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Re: Best JLB Post-Intoxication Era?
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2010, 11:54:13 AM »
Quote from: sonatafanica on February 08, 2010, 11:49:00 AM
in·tox·i·ca·tion    (ĭn-tŏk'sĭ-kā'shən)    
n.  
1. Stupefaction or excitement by the action of a chemical substance.

2. Exhilaration, excitement, or euphoria.

3. Poisoning by a drug or toxic substance.

Even if that is a technically correct definition, it is not the conventionally-used one.  Intoxication almost always implies definition #1, which has nothing to do with James' vocal injury.  (And, how clams factor into the discussion is an even bigger mystery)  As such, the thread title is very misleading and perhaps insulting to James.  So, no, neither "intoxication" nor "clam" are the right words for this discussion.  I am changing the thread title accordingly.
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Re: Best JLB Post-Vocal Injury Era?
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2010, 11:56:18 AM »
It's your forum.





I voted the Octavarium era. He had so much body to his voice.
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Re: Best JLB Post-Intoxication Era?
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2010, 12:01:48 PM »
Quote from: bösk1 on February 08, 2010, 11:54:13 AM
Quote from: sonatafanica on February 08, 2010, 11:49:00 AM
in·tox·i·ca·tion    (ĭn-tŏk'sĭ-kā'shən)    
n.  
1. Stupefaction or excitement by the action of a chemical substance.

2. Exhilaration, excitement, or euphoria.

3. Poisoning by a drug or toxic substance.

Even if that is a technically correct definition, it is not the conventionally-used one.  Intoxication almost always implies definition #1, which has nothing to do with James' vocal injury.  (And, how clams factor into the discussion is an even bigger mystery)  As such, the thread title is very misleading and perhaps insulting to James.  So, no, neither "intoxication" nor "clam" are the right words for this discussion.  I am changing the thread title accordingly.

Gonna be honest with you. Spanish is my native language. "Intoxicación" in Spanish usually means poisoning because of food, not an alcohol or a drug abuse side effect. Bad translation, I guess. The clam stuff was just a mistake. Anyway, thanks for correcting the title.
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Re: Best JLB Post-Intoxication Era?
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2010, 12:02:48 PM »
Quote from: LCArenas on February 08, 2010, 11:48:45 AM
Quote from: bösk1 on February 08, 2010, 11:40:00 AM
Quote from: LCArenas on February 08, 2010, 10:49:49 AM
infamous clam intoxication happened

???  What are you talking about?

My bad, wrong word ;)

It's still wrong.




Anyway, James has been on fire this tour.  Nailing songs like Voices and The Mirror in ways that he's never been able to perform them live before.  This tour wins out easily.
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Re: Best JLB Post-Vocal Injury Era?
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2010, 12:07:11 PM »
Quote from: LCArenas on February 08, 2010, 12:01:48 PM
Quote from: bösk1 on February 08, 2010, 11:54:13 AM
Quote from: sonatafanica on February 08, 2010, 11:49:00 AM
in·tox·i·ca·tion    (ĭn-tŏk'sĭ-kā'shən)   
n. 
1. Stupefaction or excitement by the action of a chemical substance.

2. Exhilaration, excitement, or euphoria.

3. Poisoning by a drug or toxic substance.

Even if that is a technically correct definition, it is not the conventionally-used one.  Intoxication almost always implies definition #1, which has nothing to do with James' vocal injury.  (And, how clams factor into the discussion is an even bigger mystery)  As such, the thread title is very misleading and perhaps insulting to James.  So, no, neither "intoxication" nor "clam" are the right words for this discussion.  I am changing the thread title accordingly.

Gonna be honest with you. Spanish is my native language. "Intoxicación" in Spanish usually means poisoning because of food, not an alcohol or a drug abuse side effect. Bad translation, I guess. The clam stuff was just a mistake. Anyway, thanks for correcting the title.

No problem.  I figured it was something like that.  I wasn't accusing you of doing anything wrong--I just wanted to get it changed because it is conveying a meaning to most people that I really don't think you intended. 
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Re: Best JLB Post-Vocal Injury Era?
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2010, 12:12:24 PM »
But guys, it wasn't shrimp or clam.  It was rice, pork, and eggs.

Quote from:  "Lifting Shadows" pg 167
"We woke up, and for breakfast I had rice, pork and eggs," says James, visibly shuddering at the memory.
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Re: Best JLB Post-Vocal Injury Era?
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2010, 12:13:32 PM »
1.  We know.
2.  All this talk of fried chicken, pork, clams and such on the forum is making me really hungry.
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Re: Best JLB Post-Vocal Injury Era?
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2010, 12:14:44 PM »
To me, it is easily the Octavarium era, with Score being LaBrie's best performance to date.
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Re: Best JLB Post-Vocal Injury Era?
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2010, 12:15:08 PM »
Well all this could have been avoided if someone just pointed it out.  Now everyone's hungry, and its all your fault.
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Re: Best JLB Post-Intoxication Era?
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2010, 12:35:17 PM »
Quote from: Nic35 on February 08, 2010, 10:51:34 AM
From what I have seen, I'd say that now is his best era since the food poisonning.
Definitely. He's only had a couple of weaker performances on this tour, but when I saw DT in Budapest, I couldn't believe how phenomenal he sounded.
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Re: Best JLB Post-Vocal Injury Era?
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2010, 01:31:04 PM »
SFAM. Yeah, he couldn't hit the high notes but he still sounded like himself. He sounds completely different and thin now.
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Re: Best JLB Post-Vocal Injury Era?
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2010, 03:37:42 PM »
I think right now James Labrie is in God Mode. It's virtually undetectable that he ever damaged his voice if someone was to hear him now.
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Re: Best JLB Post-Vocal Injury Era?
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2010, 03:45:15 PM »
Quote from: Perpetual Change on February 08, 2010, 12:12:24 PM
But guys, it wasn't shrimp or clam.  It was rice, pork, and eggs.

Quote from:  "Lifting Shadows" pg 167
"We woke up, and for breakfast I had rice, pork and eggs," says James, visibly shuddering at the memory.
Actually, I learned that the next time I hear the words "Does this taste OK to you?" I will stop eating immediately.
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Re: Best JLB Post-Vocal Injury Era?
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2010, 04:05:24 PM »
From what I've heard, I'd say that now he's as good as he's ever been post-incident-formerly-known-as-clam-intoxication.

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Re: Best JLB Post-Vocal Injury Era?
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2010, 04:05:34 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLXwPVqZKjY

Octavarium tour. The two nights in London were phenomenal vocals-wise.
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Re: Best JLB Post-Vocal Injury Era?
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2010, 04:07:23 PM »
Quote from: setrataeso on February 08, 2010, 03:37:42 PM
I think right now James Labrie is in God Mode. It's virtually undetectable that he ever damaged his voice if someone was to hear him now.
Quote from: j on February 08, 2010, 04:05:24 PM
From what I've heard, I'd say that now he's as good as he's ever been post-incident-formerly-known-as-clam-intoxication.

-J


Octavarium tour was probably the best for him in terms of still having his depth and being able to hit some of the high notes again.  But the nights where he's not thin now are just as good as before his accident.
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Re: Best JLB Post-Vocal Injury Era?
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2010, 04:43:55 PM »
I know this is pre-injury, but it's worth sharing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqiZvlu1ST8
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« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2010, 04:45:59 PM »
Quote from: emindead on February 08, 2010, 04:43:55 PM
I know this is pre-injury, but it's worth sharing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqiZvlu1ST8

Sorry, this just reminds me of why I think he sounds so much better now...
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Re: Best JLB Post-Vocal Injury Era?
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2010, 05:58:04 PM »
I prefer full range with lots of drive that made him especially special to clean sound and a regular voice any singer has.
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« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2010, 06:35:44 PM »
I still thing he sounds really unique now.  He had full range then, sure, but his voice was going everywhere.  He seems like he had no control.  It's funny, no matter what era you pick there's a problem with James.  Pre-accident, it's no control and sounding like a two cats in a barrel live.  Then his enunciation bottomed out.  Then his enunciation got better and he started hitting the high notes again, but his voice started getting thin.  I guess nothing's perfect.  Either way, James LaBrie is still the voice of DT, and one of the premier vocalists in rock/metal history.  :tup
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« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2010, 06:40:39 PM »
Either Score or current era.

The Chaos in Motion tour was pretty horrible for him.
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« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2010, 06:52:12 PM »
Love all the eras and naturally there will be good and bad things. But its all a matter of enjoying his style and I´ve always enjoyed it. However, I have been really impressed with the Black Clouds Material. "I want my hand to be there", "The Count Of Tuscany" and "Stargazer" are three of his best performances IMO.
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Re: Best JLB Post-Vocal Injury Era?
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2010, 06:56:55 PM »
Quote from: LTE on February 08, 2010, 06:40:39 PM
Either Score or current era.

The Chaos in Motion tour was pretty horrible for him.

Correction:  The Chaos in Motion DVD was pretty horrible for him.  Most people who went to see shows had glaringly positive things to say about James.
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Re: Best JLB Post-Vocal Injury Era?
« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2010, 07:04:37 PM »
Quote from: Perpetual Change on February 08, 2010, 06:56:55 PM
Quote from: LTE on February 08, 2010, 06:40:39 PM
Either Score or current era.

The Chaos in Motion tour was pretty horrible for him.

Correction:  The Chaos in Motion DVD was pretty horrible for him.  Most people who went to see shows had glaringly positive things to say about James.
Has James always been so unstable on stage? I mean, as far as the poll goes, BC&SL is one of the most voted eras...
But searching vids on youtube I found this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzKnAwMR3wM
 :facepalm: Whatever happened to James in this gig? Was it the sound engineering or something like that???
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