Mass Effect (merged thread)

[skydivingninja]

Nor has anyone even given it a try to counter any of the arguments about the villain except chanting 'puppet puppet puppet puppet puppet puppet saren puppet puppet collector' yeah everyone gets it you aren't supposed to fight man vs mile-long-spaceship but THATS NOT THE POINT.

I don't know what you're trying to say here.

[Dimitrius]

What is the argument we are even having?

I'm so confused.

Kala's all knowing and we are retards, apparently.

[ehra]

What is the argument we are even having?

I'm so confused.

Kala's trying to say the bad guy in ME2 is terrible because all we do is fight his puppet Collectors then we never even fight him in the game, while at the same time saying ME1's villain, who we spend most of the game fighting their puppet geth and Saren then shows up at the absolute end of the game but we don't get to directly fight him anyway, is good.

Then tries to turn it into us just not wanting to say anything bad about ME2, even though the discussion has never been about ME2's plot as a whole but just this one small aspect of it.

[kala1928]

I'm not gonna get any deeper than this into this but.
Read my first post into the thread. The 'argument' has always been about the lack of a good plot. That, nor the crappiness of the antagonist isnt even arguable. If you feel like either of them is really good, I appreciate your opinion and you are allowed to have it.













But you're a complete moron, then.

[skydivingninja]

I respect your opinion too kala.  Please have the decency not to call us morons about our opinions.  No one here has called you a moron.

[ehra]

Yes, you first started talking about the overall plot and how you didn't like it. Then when pressed for what you didn't like about it, the topic about the villain started (and other weird arguments like the gameplay differences between the games detracting from the story). Then the rage when no one agreed with you.

[TheOutlawXanadu]

What is the argument we are even having?

I'm so confused.

Kala's trying to say the bad guy in ME2 is terrible because all we do is fight his puppet Collectors then we never even fight him in the game, while at the same time saying ME1's villain, who we spend most of the game fighting their puppet geth and Saren then shows up at the absolute end of the game but we don't get to directly fight him anyway, is good.

If that is his overall point, then even though his way of arguing it was terrible, I kind of agree with him.

True, you only fight Saren twice compared to dozens of times fighting Harbinger's avatars, but at least Saren was a character, you know? An avatar saying "I WILL DESTROY YOU!" is not really a character.

Makes a big difference to me.

[ehra]

But the main villain was Sovereign. Saren was just a "puppet" of his, hence why I don't  get why he's got such a problem about spending most of ME2 fighting the Collectors.

[TheOutlawXanadu]

Is he saying that he would rather have fought the Collectors the whole game?

[Sigz]

What the fuck is going on in this thread? Why does ME2 have to advance the main plot 'by miles', according to Kala? Going into any middle story in a trilogy you can pretty much expect that the main story isn't going to be advanced that much, but rather you're going to get a bunch of exposition, setup for later events, character development, etc. And that's exactly what we got. What's the problem?

[skydivingninja]

Is he saying that he would rather have fought the Collectors the whole game?

That seems to be his biggest gripe, while championing ME1 for not doing that...even though we kinda did with the Geth.

[ehra]

I'm pretty sure he was upset that the Collectors were just being used by the Reapers instead of us fighting the Reapers more directly. And that the only time we fight the Harbringer is when he's controlling other people instead of him actually showing up. Meanwhile he thinks Sovereign is a good villain even though we spend the whole time fighting the Geth and Saren, who are being used by him. And then at the end Sovereign does show up but NPCs fight him off screen while we, once again, fight Saren.

[kala1928]

lol character development

[Dimitrius]

Speaking of being morons...

[Super Dude]

I think kala is a troll.

[Super Dude]

Fake edit: if you don't believe me, look no further than the Inception and Star Wars Ep. II threads.

[Dimitrius]

Fake edit: if you don't believe me, look no further than the Inception and Star Wars Ep. II threads.

Yes, you are correct.

Also, double post FTL!

[XJDenton]

I'm not gonna get any deeper than this into this but.
Read my first post into the thread. The 'argument' has always been about the lack of a good plot. That, nor the crappiness of the antagonist isnt even arguable. If you feel like either of them is really good, I appreciate your opinion and you are allowed to have it.













But you're a complete moron, then.

I think both are great. Want to call me a moron?

[HarlequinForest]

I'm listening to the Mass Effect soundtrack... so awesome.

[kala1928]

Fake edit: if you don't believe me, look no further than the Inception and Star Wars Ep. II threads.

You're saying ep 2 is not a really bad movie?

[Super Dude]

No it is.  I was referring to your...colorful language.

[MetalJunkie]

I'm not gonna get any deeper than this into this but.
Read my first post into the thread. The 'argument' has always been about the lack of a good plot. That, nor the crappiness of the antagonist isnt even arguable. If you feel like either of them is really good, I appreciate your opinion and you are allowed to have it.













But you're a complete moron, then.

I think both are great. Want to call me a moron?

M...m...mo..... I can't do it.

[MetalManiac666]

SO GUYS

Who really wants ME3 to come out.

[MetalJunkie]

I don't know. If the Illusive Man's just a puppet, the game will suck. Only time will tell.

[Dimitrius]

Isn't there a comic about how the Illusive Man came to form Cerberus coming out soon?

Also, I want ME3 now!!!!

[Dimitrius]

https://pc.ign.com/articles/113/1139650p1.html

Electronic Arts has inadvertently announced Mass Effect 3 through its online store.

Appearing online this morning, Mass Effect 3 was available for pre-order for $59.99. Only the PC platform was listed, however. The product description gives a few storyline hints. For the third game, Commander Shepard is heading to Earth to save humanity.

Earth is burning. Striking from beyond known space, a race of terrifying machines have begun their destruction of the human race. As Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine, your only hope for saving mankind is to rally the civilizations of the galaxy and launch one final mission to take back the Earth.

As expected, the listing was quickly taken down by EA. This confirms a rumored reported by Joystiq that Mass Effect 3 will be announced tomorrow at the Video Game Awards show. We'll hopefully have more details then.

Holy shit!!!!

[faemir]

Alliance Marine? He never rejoined the Spectres?

[Dimitrius]

Alliance Marine? He never rejoined the Spectres?

Well, you could get your Spectre status back in ME2, but it wasn't necessary and it did nothing on the game. I'm guessing they're saying that just to be vague.

[TheOutlawXanadu]

So if they're going to officially announce it tomorrow, does that mean anything as far as release dates go?

[Dimitrius]

I sure hope so.

[Super Dude]

I'm fine without a release date, I just wanna see ME3 in action.

[TheOutlawXanadu]

OK... So ME3 is coming out about this time next year and it's going to be about Shepard rallying the races to save Earth.

Sounds good. But again, I hope that the threat of the Reapers is present with everything you do as opposed to ME2 when the threat of the Collectors only reared its head every three or four missions.

[faemir]

OK... So ME3 is coming out about this time next year and it's going to be about Shepard rallying the races to save Earth.

Sounds good. But again, I hope that the threat of the Reapers is present with everything you do as opposed to ME2 when the threat of the Collectors only reared its head every three or four missions.

The purpose of ME2 was to collect a crew, then stop the collectors, so focusing on the crew more. With 3, it'll be saving earth so i'm pretty sure the focus will be on the reapers as it's the culmination of everything.

[XJDenton]

https://www.gametrailers.com/video/vga-10-mass-effect/708363

[faemir]

Thought someone had already posted that, whoops.

Looks good though.