DREAM THEATER - Europe leg of the 40th Anniversary Tour 2024-2025

[OpenYourEyes311]

That's mutherfuckin' psychosane. 

Yeah it is!

[KevShmev]

My DT fandom isn't what it used to be anyway (call it age, as my tastes have changed and mellowed out a bit), but I am pretty sure it would come to a screaming halt if Russell Allen ever became their singer.  That would be a hard pass for me.

[HOF]

I think Ray's voice is great, but the vocal melodies I've heard from FW left me wanting.  Tooooo.  Maaaaaanyyyyy.  Loooooong. Noooooootes.  Iiiiiin.  Eeeeeeeevery.  Liiiiiiiiine.

Yeah, this seemed like more of a problem from about A Pleasant Shape of Gray onward.

[MoraWintersoul]

Not knocking on your strong opinions on Russell Allen, but I can't imagine who would have to sing in Dream Theater for my fandom to come for a screaming halt. If it were someone I vaguely dislike but who is a technically sound singer and can actually cover the range of Dream Theater songs, I'd still give them a shot. When I was asked by the universe if my fandom is brought to a screaming halt by James singing the way he does lately, I said "no" and bought tickets for shows in 2022 and 2024 knowing fully how he was going to sound, so

[Stadler]

Ronnie Romero? 

[hefdaddy42]

Russell Allen in DT is an awful, awful idea.  No thank you.

[Adami]

Russell Allen in DT is an awful, awful idea.  No thank you.

Indeed, and I love Russell.


You know what would be cool? A tribute to DT album with a bunch of the top people in the genre. That way we can hear what people like RA and so forth would sound like on a DT song without worrying about JLB being replaced.

[cramx3]

We all know Devin Townsend has the goods to do the job (I don't think he would want it though)

[Metro]

He wouldn't want it, and I wouldn't want him to.

[cramx3]

He wouldn't want it, and I wouldn't want him to.

Me neither, and I generally would think, most of the known singers probably wouldn't even want the job.  It's a demanding singing spot.  I'd guess they'd more likely find an unknown or lesser known person who would be willing to do the DT grind for personal exposure than someone already established.

[Glasser]

Ronnie Romero? 

That would be Tim's choice for sure! Maybe Kade's too 

[TAC]

FUCK THAT!!

[Ben_Jamin]

Not knocking on your strong opinions on Russell Allen, but I can't imagine who would have to sing in Dream Theater for my fandom to come for a screaming halt. If it were someone I vaguely dislike but who is a technically sound singer and can actually cover the range of Dream Theater songs, I'd still give them a shot. When I was asked by the universe if my fandom is brought to a screaming halt by James singing the way he does lately, I said "no" and bought tickets for shows in 2022 and 2024 knowing fully how he was going to sound, so

I went to DreamSonic not because of DT, but because that was a great lineup.

Getting to hear Devin sing TSCO was an epic moment, as well as Tosin playing along as well.

Regardless of JLBs vocals I still had a great time. I jammed out and sang along. It was more than just seeing my favorite bands, it was the experience of the show, and Dream Theater shows are about the songs for me, which I don't care if JLB sounded bad, I love the songs enough to sing along to them.

I even did the same when I saw them opening for Maiden. Although the set was like a singles set, I still had a blast.

[Ben_Jamin]

Indeed, and I love Russell.


You know what would be cool? A tribute to DT album with a bunch of the top people in the genre. That way we can hear what people like RA and so forth would sound like on a DT song without worrying about JLB being replaced.

That is an amazing idea. Honestly, if DT are the pioneers of Progressive Metal, why hasn't this been done.

[Ben_Jamin]

Me neither, and I generally would think, most of the known singers probably wouldn't even want the job.  It's a demanding singing spot.  I'd guess they'd more likely find an unknown or lesser known person who would be willing to do the DT grind for personal exposure than someone already established.

Imagine Mike Mills doing Learning to Live.

[Setlist Scotty]

That is an amazing idea. Honestly, if DT are the pioneers of Progressive Metal, why hasn't this been done.

It has a long time ago:
https://www.discogs.com/release/4135279-Various-Voices-A-Tribute-To-Dream-Theater

[TAC]

It has a long time ago:
https://www.discogs.com/release/4135279-Various-Voices-A-Tribute-To-Dream-Theater

Wow, that's quite a lineup.

[Adami]

Wow, that's quite a lineup.

Yea……guess I was thinking less bands, specifically obscure bands, doing covers but groups of less obscure prog people getting together.

Like Burning my Soup with Tony McAlpine, Billy Sheehan, whomever on drums and keys and Devin on vox. Etc.

[Metro]

Like Burning my Soup with Tony McAlpine, Billy Sheehan, whomever on drums and keys and Devin on vox. Etc.

don't burn the soup

[Adami]

don't burn the soup

I’d imagine Dev might change it to soup.

[Ben_Jamin]

It has a long time ago:
https://www.discogs.com/release/4135279-Various-Voices-A-Tribute-To-Dream-Theater

 

That's too obscure.

More like those more known bands that some consider DT clones. Like Circus Maximus. 

[Setlist Scotty]

That's too obscure.

More like those more known bands that some consider DT clones. Like Circus Maximus. 

Back around that time Empty Tremor was a fairly known band on the Ytsejam mailing list. Can't speak for the others. But you never specified that they had to be better known!   

[Ben_Jamin]

Back around that time Empty Tremor was a fairly known band on the Ytsejam mailing list. Can't speak for the others. But you never specified that they had to be better known!   

Yeah, should've specified more known bands besides these obscure bands that only Ytsejam mailing list members know of....

[crystalstars17]

I don't even know why this conversation (about replacement singers) is even still going on.

[Adami]

I don't even know why this conversation (about replacement singers) is even still going on.

To be fair, I think now we’re talking about a DT tribute album. Not replacements. I think that would be cool, however unlikely.

[Glasser]

Back around that time Empty Tremor was a fairly known band on the Ytsejam mailing list. Can't speak for the others. But you never specified that they had to be better known!   

Empty Tremor and Arkhe were great DT worship bands. A lot of bands from Italy came out known as the Italian Dreamers.

[cramx3]

It has a long time ago:
https://www.discogs.com/release/4135279-Various-Voices-A-Tribute-To-Dream-Theater

   are you actually familiar with this release?

[TheHoveringSojourn808]

It'd be interesting to see what Ozzy Osbourne could muster in DT but I think JLB is the only singer for me when it comes to the band

[cramx3]

That is an amazing idea. Honestly, if DT are the pioneers of Progressive Metal, why hasn't this been done.

Just started thinking about this.  Maybe because DT are so technical that bands don't want to touch it?  Like I'm sure there's plenty of bands that can play the music, but would they be able to do it justice?  Would they be able to put their own spin on it?  Also, who would be interested in such a thing beyond some of us DT nerds?  Are there DT cover songs already out there from established bands?

[Setlist Scotty]

  are you actually familiar with this release?

I never grabbed it. Didn't interest me. But I remember when it came out and the discussions about it. 
 
 

Just started thinking about this.  Maybe because DT are so technical that bands don't want to touch it?  Like I'm sure there's plenty of bands that can play the music, but would they be able to do it justice?  Would they be able to put their own spin on it?  Also, who would be interested in such a thing beyond some of us DT nerds?  Are there DT cover songs already out there from established bands?

Part of it is probably because the tribute thing had been done to death. Magna Crapa did a lot of them, and there were plenty of others done in the late 90s and early 00s, so it was probably just a matter of over saturating the market and/or it became a trend that just faded away.

[nobloodyname]

In a strange turn of events, I am considering going to the Berlin, Milan or Rome show. Or possibly the one in Koln. Anyone have any experience of the venues in question, please?

Anyone?

[MirrorMask]

Anyone?

Milan is a nice enough venue, it's a place Iron Maiden sell out in a day and a half when they play there. Big sporting arena, basketball teams play there. Sound decent enough. It's the terminal of the subway so you're guaranteed a ride back with the subway to whatever part of Milan you'll chose to stay.

[nobloodyname]

Thank you, really appreciated.