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Offline RodrigoAltaf

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Repentace - who says what?
« on: March 29, 2014, 07:53:38 PM »
 Does anyone know which special guest in Repentace says what? Are their isolated recordings available anywhere?

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Re: Repentace - who says what?
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2014, 12:00:41 AM »
https://lyrics.wikia.com/Dream_Theater:Repentance

Corey Taylor - "Until that moment, I'd never felt like I'd failed at anything...And I felt like I failed her...And I failed myself, and I failed my children...It's still really hard to deal with."

Steve Vai - "I want to thank you for helping me to see my own selfishness and to tell you how regretful I am it has hurt you."

Chris Jericho - "I'm sorry I didn't visit you in the hospital, Grandpa when you were on your deathbed. I'm sorry I didn't come to your funeral...I don't know if I was selfish or just too scared to face it. It's one of the biggest regrets of my life."

David Ellefson - "I'm here to confess with you that what I did, was wrong... And I'm asking for your forgiveness"

Steve Hogarth - "The only unforgivable thing hauls itself out of bed, looks over my shoulder at the bloody English weather..."

Joe Satriani - "I really regret not being able to see my friend Andy..."

Mikael Åkerfeldt - "One of my best friends who's the godfather of my daughter, he asked me to sing or play something at his wedding, and I turned it down because I was busy and too much of a chickenshit to do it...And I feel sorry for that, because it was a very very close friend of mine"

Steven Wilson - "So, I wanted to apologize to anyone that I've upset or offended.. they're just words, it's just an opinion, but unfortunately, I tend to express it as a fact, and that's kind of arrogant."

Jon Anderson - "I think it's the betrayal...it still haunts me."

Neal Morse - "I'm sorry for what I did back then... I was a different person. I really was and I'm so sorry. I wish it wouldn't have happened, but it did, and I'm sorry. Forgive me. I'm sorry..."

Daniel Gildenlöw - "I guess I'm simply sorry for being me just so awful to the people..."

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Re: Repentace - who says what?
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2014, 12:59:41 AM »
The Chris Jericho one for me hits so close to home.
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Re: Repentace - who says what?
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2014, 02:01:50 AM »
I've never been able to hear Jon Anderson at all on this. Great song though.

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Re: Repentace - who says what?
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2014, 03:38:18 AM »
I've never been able to hear Jon Anderson at all on this. Great song though.

I can't even remember seeing him in lists of contributors before, but I've never heard that bit at all, no
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Re: Repentace - who says what?
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2014, 03:57:36 AM »
This is such a fantastic song and this spoken word section really adds to the mood of the song. And of course, there's Corey Taylor at the end again: ''The truth is the truth, so all you can do is live with it.''

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Re: Repentace - who says what?
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2014, 05:56:07 AM »
Corey Taylor almost plays the bass on this song.

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Re: Repentace - who says what?
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2014, 09:29:27 AM »
Don't forget Dave Ellefsons "Your only as sick as your secrets. But, the truth will set you free."
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Re: Repentace - who says what?
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2014, 02:31:19 PM »
This is such a fantastic song and this spoken word section really adds to the mood of the song. And of course, there's Corey Taylor at the end again: ''The truth is the truth, so all you can do is live with it.''
Yeah, I always thought it was a great idea even though they could've left some of those out to shorten the song a little bit.

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Re: Repentace - who says what?
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2014, 02:40:17 PM »
I think the proper way to shorten the song would've been leaving out the "aaaaaahh" section at the end. I've always found it to make the song change from melancholic and sorrowful to... Cheesy, dramatic, hollywood-esque. Still a great song and among my favorites from the album, but that section could've been omitted or shortened. For me, cutting out parts of the spoken section would've dragged it down a bit. It faithfully represents what the song is about, after all.

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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2014, 04:07:52 PM »
I didn't say cut out the entire spoken section, just some bits, and I agree the "aaaaaahhhhh" parts should've been cut out.

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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2014, 06:29:36 PM »
Perhaps Ellefson's, which was quite meaningless.

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Re: Repentace - who says what?
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2014, 08:18:09 PM »
While the "aahs" do go on too long the thing that really drags the song out for me is Portnoy's long winded speech near the end. I would definitely cut that down. That section's not helped by the intentionally "deep" voice Portnoy's using, which sounds kind of silly to me. In fact, Corey Taylor's one line at the end is way more effective that that whole speech.

The apology section is fine, its everything after the apology section that needed to be trimmed.

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Re: Repentace - who says what?
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2014, 08:19:40 PM »
The song has a distinct downward slope I find. It starts out good with a fresh new theme to the AA suite, but then the apologies come in (which are meh), and then the over-drawn-out "aaaaah" happen, and the end twists the rusty knife one more turn with MP's quote.
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Re: Repentace - who says what?
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2014, 08:38:07 PM »
While the "aahs" do go on too long the thing that really drags the song out for me is Portnoy's long winded speech near the end. I would definitely cut that down. That section's not helped by the intentionally "deep" voice Portnoy's using, which sounds kind of silly to me. In fact, Corey Taylor's one line at the end is way more effective that that whole speech.

The apology section is fine, its everything after the apology section that needed to be trimmed.

Well, yeah, that's part of the "aaah" section. But the deep voice is quite silly too, yes.

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Re: Repentace - who says what?
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2014, 08:44:42 PM »
While the "aahs" do go on too long the thing that really drags the song out for me is Portnoy's long winded speech near the end. I would definitely cut that down. That section's not helped by the intentionally "deep" voice Portnoy's using, which sounds kind of silly to me. In fact, Corey Taylor's one line at the end is way more effective that that whole speech.

The apology section is fine, its everything after the apology section that needed to be trimmed.

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Re: Repentace - who says what?
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2014, 08:45:48 PM »
My controversial opinion of the day:

I like the "aaah" section in Repentance. Maybe that goes in that other thread. :lol

It feels very natural with the rest of the song and very suitable coming after the spoken apology section, which makes the entire piece wonderfully mellow. I could probably deal with it being trimmed a bit though. The "aaah" section helps build the tension and even though I have to be in a certain mood to fully enjoy the song, the last lines still give me chills.

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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2014, 08:48:35 PM »
It could be more likeable, but seriously, it takes up about 3:25 of the song (10:44). It's excessively long for what it is.

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Re: Repentace - who says what?
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2014, 09:45:26 PM »
Repentance as a whole is unnecessarily bloated, in my opinion.  It has lots of cool ideas, but almost all of those ideas hang around too long and end up wearing out their welcome.  Pretty much every section is longer than it needs to be, and every part of it could benefit from some trimming.  I feel like it could be an amazing song if you honed it down to around seven minutes, but as it is, it just drags and drags and drags.

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Re: Repentace - who says what?
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2014, 10:05:42 PM »
Repentance as a whole is unnecessarily bloated, in my opinion.  It has lots of cool ideas, but almost all of those ideas hang around too long and end up wearing out their welcome.  Pretty much every section is longer than it needs to be, and every part of it could benefit from some trimming.  I feel like it could be an amazing song if you honed it down to around seven minutes, but as it is, it just drags and drags and drags.

Just my opinion, of course.
I agree for the most part. I LOVE the bassline in the intro, the "aaahhh" section would be ok if it was a 4 line transition into a final chorus or something, and the speech and apology section should be cut out completely. This could've been a 5-6 minute ballad and be a perfect calm down section of the Suite before the big heavy ending.

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Re: Repentace - who says what?
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2014, 10:27:54 PM »
Oh, I wasn't sure if the "Barry White section" was in Repentance or The Shattered Fortress so before I said anything I had to check that out, but yes, I'd definetely would've cut that down, I have no idea why MP thought it would be cool to record that with that low deep voice, I'd kill to see his reasoning behind that.  :facepalm:

I think Repentance as a song is amazing up until the 7th minute, I wish the band could've negotiated with Portnoy to keep 3 or 4 apologies(Taylor, Jericho, Hogarth, Morse and Gildenlow are the only ones worth keeping IMHO), one bar of "ahhhh" if they really liked it(I don't, but I can live with it), and "the truth is the truth" to wrap it up. That would've made of an amazing Top 30 piece. As it is it's still very good, but I press next as soon as JP solo ends because the rest is pretty much fill that goes on for too long, it's a shame actually, but still a great song.

On a second thought, I almost would've preferred to have the apologies on the middle of the songs, or somehow between the verses, only those five I mentioned. I don't think it would work, but I'd like to have some way of editing to see if the experiment enhances the song or not. Too bad I suck with these things :lol.

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Re: Repentace - who says what?
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2014, 01:47:30 AM »
While the "aahs" do go on too long the thing that really drags the song out for me is Portnoy's long winded speech near the end. I would definitely cut that down. That section's not helped by the intentionally "deep" voice Portnoy's using, which sounds kind of silly to me. In fact, Corey Taylor's one line at the end is way more effective that that whole speech.

The apology section is fine, its everything after the apology section that needed to be trimmed.
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Re: Repentace - who says what?
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2014, 02:11:55 AM »
Daniel Gildenlöw - "I guess I'm simply sorry for being me just so awful to the people..."

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Re: Repentace - who says what?
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2014, 02:22:59 AM »
I just have to say, that I think the "aaaahhs" are fantastic and I could listen to them all day for about as many bars as they're there for. They're good and almost overstay their welcome, but I like the final product :). But what really makes it is the fuzzy bass. It's sublime. The chord progressions are pretty neat as well which is probably what makes that solo so awesome.

I wouldn't really want to trim any parts of Repentance because, there are a lot of DT songs where they have amazing ideas but due to the style of their music, they use it for like 1 bar! I mean, at least Repentance flushes it's ideas out and it kinda works because it's more of an ambient piece which is somewhat unique in the context of Dream Theater. Repentance = win = underrated.