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Shadow Ninja Doesn't Understand Math/Please Help Me Thread
« on: November 18, 2013, 04:25:58 PM »
So, I've got a problem I need to solve rather soon. It's a trigonometric equation, and for the life of me I can't figure it out.

The equation is: sinθ - cosθ = 1

So, what I've done is squared both sides, ending up with sin^2θ - 2cosθsinθ + cos^2θ = 1
Then I reduced that using the Pythagorean identity to get: 1 - 2cosθsinθ = 1
Then I subtracted the one, giving me: -2cosθsinθ = 0
And that can be changed using the double angle formula to get: -cos2θ = 0


This is where I get lost. I understand I'm supposed to find where cos equals 0, but then what? I think I'd get -pi/2, and then divide that by two, and get -pi/4.

What I'm confused about is my teacher said something about because of the way we write it, it'll come out like -pi/4 + pi/2k.

Does anyone know this, and could you help me? I would be very grateful.

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Re: Shadow Ninja Doesn't Understand Math/Please Help Me Thread
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2013, 04:29:02 PM »
Trig is stupid. Skip it.

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Re: Shadow Ninja Doesn't Understand Math/Please Help Me Thread
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2013, 04:30:37 PM »
Unfortunately, that is not an option.

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Re: Shadow Ninja Doesn't Understand Math/Please Help Me Thread
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2013, 04:34:39 PM »
Haha yeah sorry, I honestly have no idea how to do that. The only trig identity I've ever used outside of trig class is Sin^2x + Cos^2 x = 1

So basically, if you don't get it, you might be screwed for your next test, but in the long run you really won't need it. Unfortunately I can't help any more than that :p

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Re: Shadow Ninja Doesn't Understand Math/Please Help Me Thread
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2013, 04:36:05 PM »
I really need to ace this test though, otherwise my grade will be in deep doo-doo.

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Re: Shadow Ninja Doesn't Understand Math/Please Help Me Thread
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2013, 04:39:43 PM »
I really need to ace this test though, otherwise my grade will be in deep doo-doo.


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Re: Shadow Ninja Doesn't Understand Math/Please Help Me Thread
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2013, 05:08:01 PM »
That episode was awesome.
Everyone else, except Wolfking is wrong.

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Re: Shadow Ninja Doesn't Understand Math/Please Help Me Thread
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2013, 05:51:47 PM »
I know there are math people here somewhere. Show yourselves.














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Re: Shadow Ninja Doesn't Understand Math/Please Help Me Thread
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2013, 07:27:04 PM »
Alright well after putting my mind to it this is my explanation then...

Ok well assuming you did everything right up to the -cos2θ=0 (which looks good to me, but I don't know my identities), then when you solve for θ you would get -pi/4, since cos goes to 0 at pi/2, so divide that by 2 and you get -pi/4.

All the +pi/2k means is that it will repeat every pi/2k, where k is any integer (so the answer is -pi/4, -3pi/4, -5pi/4, and so on). Since the cosine wave repeats every 2pi, the answer -pi/4 will appear in an infinite number of locations unless you are specified an interval (usually [-2pi, 2pi])

So basically you did all the hard stuff :p you just had to solve for θ and then add the pi/2k to include every repitition.

Hopefully that makes a bit of sense, If not I can try to explain better if needed.

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Re: Shadow Ninja Doesn't Understand Math/Please Help Me Thread
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2013, 07:46:00 PM »
Thanks for the explanation! Although, I realized I was being stupid before, and just substituted angles into the original equation to find the ones that matched.  :P

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Re: Shadow Ninja Doesn't Understand Math/Please Help Me Thread
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2013, 03:36:01 PM »
Ah, too bad I missed this, I love math. I was asleep though, it was a bit too late for me :P

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Re: Shadow Ninja Doesn't Understand Math/Please Help Me Thread
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2013, 03:50:57 PM »
Well, I may have more problems soon. Stay tuned. :P

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Re: Shadow Ninja Doesn't Understand Math/Please Help Me Thread
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2013, 04:04:08 PM »
I'm really tired, going to bed now... But I'd love to help at a more reasonable time of the day  :lol