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So Glenn Beck isn't insane, he's just a plagiarist.
« on: April 19, 2011, 08:12:01 AM »
Because here at DTF, making fun of Glenn Beck makes nearly all of us feel good.

Seems Beck wasn't just "seeing things" that he'd bring to talk about on his show. He's now being accused of scouring the internet for other crazies so that he could pass it off as his own material. Now conservative bloggers and other right-wing "internet researchers" are coming out:

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Yet not everyone gets credit. Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch, who has written extensively on the Middle East, received a call earlier this year from one of Beck’s television producers about a show on radical Islam. “He was doing his Sharia and caliphate show,” Spencer says, “where he did a country-by-country survey of the Islamic movements in those countries and the likelihood that those countries were going to turn into full-fledged Islamic states, with Islamic law fully-implemented. I gave [the producer] all that information. She called me like five times that day. I was on the phone with her for a total of probably three hours or more. That entire Sharia-caliphate show was me.”

Spencer says Beck used everything he recommended. The producer, meanwhile, “was effusively grateful, and said ‘Glenn is going to be sure to cite you on the show.’ But, of course, he did not.” When Spencer complained, he received an invitation to come on a later show, anchored by a guest host. His contributions to Beck’s caliphate show were never acknowledged.

Cliff Kincaid, the director of Accuracy in Media’s Center for Investigative Journalism, had a similar experience. In the fall of 2009, Beck’s producers promised him a spot on Beck’s television show to talk about his investigation of the Soros-funded Free Press. After several long conversations with Beck’s producers, however, the invitation evaporated and Beck did the show alone, using Kincaid’s research as his own.

“It’s hard to get an explanation as to why these things happen except they [Beck’s producers] told me Glenn wanted to handle the issue himself, which means he wanted to appear to be the expert,” Kincaid told TheDC. “It’s his show, and he’s got a right to do that, but it is disconcerting that those of us who work hard on these issues and gather a lot of information expect to get some credit for what we’ve done.”

Douglas Stewart, a blogger for Yahoo’s Associated Content, wrote an article recently describing how the State Department likely knew about the Egyptian uprising before it happened. He sent his story to several radio producers, including Beck’s, hoping to publicize it. While Beck did mention his name on the air, Stewart said he was shocked to hear the host read almost his entire article on the air, virtually verbatim, as if it were his own.

A short time later, Stewart found seven paragraphs of his own material pasted into a “study guide” about Egypt on GlennBeck.com. There was no indication that Stewart had written it. Stewart complained in two separate emails to Beck’s webmaster, but never received a response.



Read more: https://dailycaller.com/2011/04/18/thedc-exclusive-conservatives-hit-beck-for-taking-content-without-attribution/#ixzz1Jyi3V9i2
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Re: So Glenn Beck isn't insane, he's just a plagiarist.
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2011, 08:52:08 AM »
Glen Beck is far from insane. he is actually spot on on much of what he says in general. nor is he a shill like all of the liberal talking heads, that will lie that they are "unbiased"
He is not a bomb thrower like Oberman ( fired) and that empty head Madow..

Beck is like a loopy teacher his style is sorta out there.

Robert Spencer is a hero!!!. and Id like a thread dedicated to his site amazing site called Jihad Watch, but then again Id like lots of things..LOL

God Bless Robert Spencer!
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Re: So Glenn Beck isn't insane, he's just a plagiarist.
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2011, 08:56:45 AM »
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Re: So Glenn Beck isn't insane, he's just a plagiarist.
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2011, 09:15:28 AM »
Glen Beck is far from insane. he is actually spot on on much of what he says in general. nor is he a shill like all of the liberal talking heads, that will lie that they are "unbiased"
He is not a bomb thrower like Oberman ( fired) and that empty head Madow..

Beck is like a loopy teacher his style is sorta out there.

Robert Spencer is a hero!!!. and Id like a thread dedicated to his site amazing site called Jihad Watch, but then again Id like lots of things..LOL

God Bless Robert Spencer!

OK, but before you turn this into another thread about how all the liberal commentators ever are liars and all the conservative ones are heroes and patriots, that's not what this is about. This is about how the kinds of "researchers" you admire are trying to take down Beck. Robert Spencer is one of them, if you haven't seen. My person opinion is that Beck could have easily attributed them, but thought he was being smart by not doing so. The site you just mentioned, for instance, tells us on the first page that the "Egyptian revolution was designed to take women a step backwards." How utterly ridiculous. In a word, these guys on the blogosphere are even more "out there" than Beck, who's managed to isolate much of his mainstream audience already anyway. If what I see on the first page of "Jihadwatch" is any indication in general of the kinds of things Beck's "educators" are telling people, I understand why he wouldn't want to link them-- the real crazzies-- on his show or webpage. For the sake of his own reputation, before the fact that his show was based on the mad ravings of the circular, partisan, incessantly speculative and self-citing blogosphere became too plainly apparent.

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Re: So Glenn Beck isn't insane, he's just a plagiarist.
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2011, 09:30:27 AM »
Do you know who Robert Spencer is? and why dont you read the article. I have to laugh, you slam Beck and Spencer, but you really havent read the article, you just slam what you dont like, or have not taken the time to even read!! you just read the headlines..

and anyone who is following Egypt ( Ummm like Hillary Clinton said yesterday) that they are concerned now by radical elements becoming more mainstream again..

Im 46, followed the Jihad for 20 years or so now.. How about you?
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Re: So Glenn Beck isn't insane, he's just a plagiarist.
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2011, 09:32:43 AM »
What are you talking about? I'm talking about the fact that Robert Spencer and others are pissed Beck is stealing their ideas and not giving them credit. That's the point of this thread. If you have something to say about that, fine. If you're just going to go on a tirade about something unrelated and rant about others not knowing how to read again or something, get out.

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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2011, 09:38:07 AM »
What are you talking about? I'm talking about the fact that Robert Spencer and others are pissed Beck is stealing their ideas and not giving them credit. That's the point of this thread. If you have something to say about that, fine. If you're just going to go on a tirade about something unrelated and rant about others not knowing how to read again or something, get out.


You said its "utterly ridiculous" what you see on Spencer page, slamming Spencer! you brought that up..that article about Egypt. read your post? and you  also said "Beck is scouring for CRAZIES" and Spencer is not..

I'm simply commenting on your post?? that that article is legit if you read it.
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Re: So Glenn Beck isn't insane, he's just a plagiarist.
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2011, 09:41:36 AM »
I haven't looked at it much, but from a first glance he appears to be blatantly partisan. Which is OK, I guess, but if he's the best of the batch I can only imagine what else Beck is taking things from.

Anyway, I'm not going to argue about it, because I have nothing to say about it. What do you make of this Beck mutiny, if anything? It seems like a lot of people you admire are calling Beck out for taking their ideas to make himself sound smart (it's not working  :P)

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Re: So Glenn Beck isn't insane, he's just a plagiarist.
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2011, 09:42:07 AM »
knock it off you two.

Discuss the topic in the OP or don't post at all

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Re: So Glenn Beck isn't insane, he's just a plagiarist.
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2011, 09:44:36 AM »
I haven't looked at it much, but from a first glance he appears to be blatantly partisan. Which is OK, I guess, but if he's the best of the batch I can only imagine what else Beck is taking things from.

Anyway, I'm not going to argue about it, because I have nothing to say about it. What do you make of this Beck mutiny, if anything?

I'm unsure what the firestorm really is about Beck, who knows, I like him, but I know he is a bit loopy. I dont see it a mutiny, but an oversight. Im sure Beck and Spencer are friends. Robert Spencer is way above Beck as far as total knowledge on the Jihad facing the West.
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Re: So Glenn Beck isn't insane, he's just a plagiarist.
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2011, 09:45:51 AM »
What Jihad?
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Re: So Glenn Beck isn't insane, he's just a plagiarist.
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2011, 09:47:36 AM »
So Glenn Beck isn't insane, he's just a plagiarist.
No, he is still insane.  He's just an insane plagiarist.  Who plagiarizes from other insane people.  Because if he plagiarized from sane people, he would just be...a journalist.
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Re: So Glenn Beck isn't insane, he's just a plagiarist.
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2011, 09:50:35 AM »
I haven't looked at it much, but from a first glance he appears to be blatantly partisan. Which is OK, I guess, but if he's the best of the batch I can only imagine what else Beck is taking things from.

Anyway, I'm not going to argue about it, because I have nothing to say about it. What do you make of this Beck mutiny, if anything?

I'm unsure what the firestorm really is about Beck, who knows, I like him, but I know he is a bit loopy. I dont see it a mutiny, but an oversight. Im sure Beck and Spencer are friends. Robert Spencer is way above Beck as far as total knowledge on the Jihad facing the West.

"Friends" in the sense that they're working toward the same cause, but some people genuinely don't like it when you make a habit of passing people's knowledge as your own. Spencer got repaid with a spot as a guest host on the show, but it looks like the other people who Beck "forgot" to credit weren't treated nearly as kindly.

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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2011, 12:22:28 PM »
So Glenn Beck isn't insane, he's just a plagiarist.
No, he is still insane.  He's just an insane plagiarist.  Who plagiarizes from other insane people.  Because if he plagiarized from sane people, he would just be...a journalist.

Basically that.  But interesting revelation, although not overly surprising, and that's not even a jab at Glenn Beck.  I just suspect this type of stuff goes on ALL THE TIME in journalism and TV, and is a lot more prevalent than people think.

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Re: So Glenn Beck isn't insane, he's just a plagiarist.
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2011, 12:54:20 PM »
Because here at DTF, making fun of Glenn Beck makes nearly all of us feel good.

It does indeed, thanks for posting :lol
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Re: So Glenn Beck isn't insane, he's just a plagiarist.
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2011, 03:20:10 PM »
I'm beginning to sense that Epicview is a ginormous troll.. lol

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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2011, 04:19:10 PM »
Beginning?!  :omg:
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Re: So Glenn Beck isn't insane, he's just a plagiarist.
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2011, 10:40:44 PM »
I'm beginning to sense that Epicview is a ginormous troll.. lol

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