New Black Sabbath

[Kotowboy]

So, what do we all think it will sound like ?

I was thinking the other day that there's so many bands now inspired by Sabbath that it can't really sound original anymore...

It will probably sound "sabbath-y" but with a modern sound to it and production.

I'm thinking that due to the number of metal bands around now that it will sound generic at worst and at

best it will sound like a modern band trying to sound like Black Sabbath with Ozzy on Vocals.




+ With Rick Rubin at the helm - it will be a horrible mess. His latest ZZ Top album is virtually unlistenable.

[gazinwales]

Absolute rubbish 
It will sound like Black Sabbath.
Nobody sounds like them, there might be pretenders, but they are the kings.
There will be tonnes of great riffs, Geezers bass will be heavy and prominent in the mix.
Ozzy will do nothing except sing and with studio post production, will sound amazing.

[Zydar]

I'm really looking forward to this. To me Black Sabbath IS the Ozzy years, when he left they became something else. I've read that they describe the sound of the new album as their first four albums. If so, then I'm a happy camper.

[wolfking]

I really haven't got much anticipation for this to be honest.  I think Iommi will be the star here, but with Ozzy at the helm, I don't see much variety or originality to be honest, and his vocals will be shit like they have been on the last few albums.  I wished Tony did another album with Tony Martin over this.

[adace]

This is one of my most anticipated albums of the year even knowing that Rick Rubin will probably mess up the production. I really liked Ozzy vocals on Scream and Iommi's work on The Devil You Know so I have pretty high expectations for this.

[BlobVanDam]

Pros-
Tony Iommi is always a monster, and he was great on The Devil You Know.
Ditto for Geezer.

Cons-
Rick Rubin has the reverse Midas touch; everything he touches turns to crap.
"Weekend at Ozzy's". Ozzy's last album was so pitch corrected they may as well have just used a synthesizer. I'm half convinced that is what they did, actually.


I'm on the fence until I actually hear something, because I could see it possibly going either way.

[Madman Shepherd]

Pros-
Tony Iommi is always a monster, and he was great on The Devil You Know.
Ditto for Geezer.

Cons-
Rick Rubin has the reverse Midas touch; everything he touches turns to crap.
"Weekend at Ozzy's". Ozzy's last album was so pitch corrected they may as well have just used a synthesizer. I'm half convinced that is what they did, actually.


I'm on the fence until I actually hear something, because I could see it possibly going either way.

Not even studio magic can save his completely destroyed voice. 

I don't advocate downloading but this may be the first record I refuse to buy and will just get a copy from someone.

BTW, Sabbath is my absolute favorite band.  Moreso than Dream Theater and as a diehard I feel completely shit on by how everything went down.

Thankfully I saw the last true incarnation of Sabbath with Dio in Chicago the year before he died. 

[Perpetual Change]

Rick Rubin has the reverse Midas touch; everything he touches turns to crap.

Not to derail the thread, but that's so not true. Rubin encourages bands to kinda go all-out; he's like the anti-producer because really he's completely unhinging bands and letting them run wild or else having them do off-the-wall stuff, whereas the typical producer would just try and get bands to be more safe and mainstream.

Obviously, sometimes the idea doesn't work and is absolute crap. But listen to his work with Johnny Cash and you've got to admit it works sometimes.

[Lolzeez]

It will be rubbish.

[Dark Castle]

It will be rubbish.

I feel the only reason this is being said is because Ozzy's back, now whether or not you think his Boise has gone bad you have Iommi, and Geezer both respectively legends at their instruments and they wrote a killer album just a few years ago. I imagine this will be killer as well

[TioJorge]

It will sound like Black Sabbath.
Nobody sounds like them

 

Innnnteresting...


P.S. I think it'll be underwhelming but not as bad as some people are saying. Then again my expectations are quite literally non-existent so... I'm kinda just here for the paradox.

[Ultimetalhead]

The Devil You Know was a great album. Dio had a lot to do with that, but I have confidence that this will be good even with Ozzy's shit vocals.

[Bertielee]

I really haven't got much anticipation for this to be honest.  I think Iommi will be the star here, but with Ozzy at the helm, I don't see much variety or originality to be honest, and his vocals will be shit like they have been on the last few albums.  I wished Tony did another album with Tony Martin over this.

Ypu bet! The guy's a beast! Unfotunately, won't happen some time soon. TM was interviewed some weeks ago and said the guys from BS did as if he he'd never ever been in the band. Sad!

B.Lee

[wolfking]

Yeah, and what annoys me is the whole hype over this album, like '35 years in the making.' People with no idea on the band are clearly getting the impression that Sabbath haven't done an album since 1978, which pisses me off.

[TAC]

The Devil You Know was a great album. Dio had a lot to do with that, but I have confidence that this will be good even with Ozzy's shit vocals.

But the main reason TDYK is great WAS because of Dio's vocals.

[Dark Castle]

The Devil You Know was a great album. Dio had a lot to do with that, but I have confidence that this will be good even with Ozzy's shit vocals.

But the main reason TDYK is great WAS because of Dio's vocals.

I'd disagree, I liked it more for the music, but I'm also of the opinion that Dio always over did it in the vocals department

[Ultimetalhead]

The Devil You Know was a great album. Dio had a lot to do with that, but I have confidence that this will be good even with Ozzy's shit vocals.

But the main reason TDYK is great WAS because of Dio's vocals.

Yeah, but that goes for any album Dio ever sang on. The riffs were fabulous as well.

[El Barto]

I really haven't got much anticipation for this to be honest.  I think Iommi will be the star here, but with Ozzy at the helm, I don't see much variety or originality to be honest, and his vocals will be shit like they have been on the last few albums.  I wished Tony did another album with Tony Martin over this.

Ypu bet! The guy's a beast! Unfotunately, won't happen some time soon. TM was interviewed some weeks ago and said the guys from BS did as if he he'd never ever been in the band. Sad!

B.Lee

Tony Martin's voice is worse than Ozzy's now. Shame because the guy was a monster back in the day, but honestly, even then he was only good in the studio with multiple takes. Live he was always pretty week. Still, I'd love to be able to hear some of that material live. The Martin era is terribly underrated.

I couldn't care less about the new album. As for when they tour, I think it'll be important to see them since we're getting very near the end of Mr. Iommi's playing days, but I'll have a hard time supporting the Osbourne machine. That's one where I'll probably score scalper tickets or comps.

[wolfking]

Agree about Martin, he is definitely not what he use to be, and certainly was a studio singer, but I'd still take his voice over Ozzy's.  His latest work with Dario Mollo wasn't too bad and he sounded surprising decent, so I'd still take him over Ozzy.

[Madman Shepherd]

I really haven't got much anticipation for this to be honest.  I think Iommi will be the star here, but with Ozzy at the helm, I don't see much variety or originality to be honest, and his vocals will be shit like they have been on the last few albums.  I wished Tony did another album with Tony Martin over this.

Ypu bet! The guy's a beast! Unfotunately, won't happen some time soon. TM was interviewed some weeks ago and said the guys from BS did as if he he'd never ever been in the band. Sad!

B.Lee

Tony Martin's voice is worse than Ozzy's now. Shame because the guy was a monster back in the day, but honestly, even then he was only good in the studio with multiple takes. Live he was always pretty week. Still, I'd love to be able to hear some of that material live. The Martin era is terribly underrated.

I couldn't care less about the new album. As for when they tour, I think it'll be important to see them since we're getting very near the end of Mr. Iommi's playing days, but I'll have a hard time supporting the Osbourne machine. That's one where I'll probably score scalper tickets or comps.

Hold up...there is nothing, I repeat NOTHING worse than Ozzy's singing nowadays.  But yeah, TM isn't what he used to be.  On the first two tours with Sabb he was great live but he sang some impossible notes in the studio and even the best vocalists would struggle to keep that up over the years. 

[Pelata]

I don't think the new album will suck, necessarily...but I don't expect to love it. I prefer the Dio era.

[Dark Castle]

I for one don't mind Ozzy's current voice, it's not near what he used to do but people really oversell how bad it is.

[wolfking]

To be honest, if it was any other singer I would be excited, but because it's Ozzy, I just don't care.  I was hoping the guys did an album with Jorn Lande, now that would have been something special.

[El Barto]

I for one don't mind Ozzy's current voice, it's not near what he used to do but people really oversell how bad it is.

Yeah. Ozzy's well aware of his limitations, so he doesn't try to do anything he'll train-wreck. Plus they'll tune down (even further) for him. That means most of the staples he'll pull off just fine. He can sing War Pigs all night long and sound great. You won't be hearing SBS out of him, and that's certainly for the best.

Add to that, I'd expect some sequenced vocals to assist him, like Roger Waters uses.

[KevShmev]

Remember that buying this album means you are giving money to Sharon Osbourne. 

Don't do it. 

[Dark Castle]

Sorry man, Sharon getting money isn't enough to stop me.