Forks in the dishwasher

[slycordinator]

It's a pet peeve of mine.  I don't want peoples' hands all over the business end of my utensils.  I really don't get why that's such a difficult concept to grasp.

the bigger facepalm is the face that you think that if I disagree with your assessment it can only be because I don't understand the concept.

And the fact that I explained why the concept was flawed tends to demonstrate that I did get it. But whatever.

[Ryzee]

I don't have a dishwasher but I set forks in the drying rack prongs up.  I figure they dry better/faster that way.  Then when I go to put them away I grab them where the handle meets the pronged part, so as not to get my hands on the part that goes in your food/mouth. 

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

the bigger facepalm is the face that you think that if I disagree with your assessment it can only be because I don't understand the concept.

And the fact that I explained why the concept was flawed tends to demonstrate that I did get it. But whatever.

You're disagreeing with my personal preference.  Because I don't want people touching the eating end of my silverware, your solution is that we must clean, autoclave, and seal them.  You then go on to indirectly suggest that I'm a germophobe who's more likely to get sick than the average person.  Complete over-reaction.  I say "I really don't like this, and here's why", then you proceed to tell me (basically) that I'm wrong.

There is no flawed concept here.  I don't like people touching the end of my silverware.  I suggested that germs are a big part of the reason why.  I also suggested that germs ARE everywhere and yes, I know that those germs will still be on the other end of the fork.  If I can take ONE option (out of the myriad number of ways that one gets germs into their system) out of the equation by suggesting that people not touch the end of my silverware, I don't think that's being at all unreasonable.  It's no more unreasonable (in my opinion) than suggesting that "Oh well, you're going to get germs anyway, so why take this one easy little precaution?"

You don't want to do it that way, it's really of no concern to me.  However, it's really not helpful to suggest that germ awareness = paranoia.

[bosk1]

Exactly.  Because, as everybody knows, paranoia, they destroy ya'.

[ReaperKK]

Forks up / Knives down

That's what I do....

1) for me stabbing risk comes to play only with knives...
2) touching the end is fine as long as hands are clean.... (as in just washed) when the prongs are down... they don't get clean anyway....IMO

I'm the same way. However I live by myself so I rarely have enough dishes to justify using a dishwasher, unless I'm making dinner for people, even then I'll end up manually washing the dishes.

[AcidLameLTE]

I've never owned a dishwasher (don't see the point) but when I put the forks in the drying rack thing, I put them facing up.

[slycordinator]

You're disagreeing with my personal preference.

No. I am disagreeing with your reasoning as to why it's necessary to have that preference.

Because I don't want people touching the eating end of my silverware, your solution is that we must clean, autoclave, and seal them.

Not true.

You suggested that hands have germs you don't want in your mouth and I suggested that the only way to make sure that doesn't happen is to sterilize them. I wasn't responding to the mere suggestion that you prefer people to not touch the parts that go in your mouth.

I say "I really don't like this, and here's why", then you proceed to tell me (basically) that I'm wrong.

Isn't that how discussions work? You explain why you feel a certain way and I point out why I disagree with your explanation, even if I did it by exaggerating a bit.

However, it's really not helpful to suggest that germ awareness = paranoia.

And I never claimed that being aware of germs is paranoia.

Take comedian Howie Mandel (or at least he used to be a comedian). He doesn't like shaking people's hand. Just a personal preference. Then he explains it as "People's hands have germs on them" and only does the fist punch thing because of that. I think that's paranoia. Granted, he's FAR more paranoid than anyone here. But it's similar, imo.

[TempusVox]

Prongs down so I don't touch the eating end when putting them away.

People with heightened sagacity share in this philosophy. This is the only way to properly load the dishwasher.

ALSO @Sly- Why pick a fight over someones preference? Even if YOU feel the logic behind it is flawed, it's not for you to decide. To he and others (myself included), it makes perfect sense. My father in law lives with us. He has OCD so bad he would make "Monk" crazy. He washes his hands (among many manifestations) ALLLLL day long. He generally has washed his hands into a perpetual state of being raw. I refuse to allow him to touch a plate, cup, or untensil that I or others may eat off of at any time. I don't want his raw skin touching something I'm going to stick in my mouth. Not because I'm paranoid, but because the thought of it happening disgusts me.

As for the fist bump you described. I don't shake hands with large groups of people anymore either. I used to on book tours. Repeated colds, bouts of flu and strep throat made me stop doing it. Now I either give a small wave, a slight bow, or a fist bump.I don't get sick as nearly often as I used too. Occassionally someone will stick their hand in my face, and I'll tell them it wouldn't be a good idea to shake my hand right now. It implies "I'm" sick, and although it may be dishonest, it's better than me trying to explain myself and coming across as some uptight paranoid prick. Even still, sometimes I will shake someones hand, but I generally have to wash my hands pretty soon thereafter. I am a bit of a germ-a-phobe. But more than that, I don't know what someone has been touching that they feel it's okay to share with me.

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Wrong. I am disagreeing with your reasoning as to why it's necessary to have that preference.

To-may-to, to-mah-to.  That's like saying "I didn't call you an asshole, I said you were acting like one" (my psycho-ex was particularly fond of saying this to people).  The way your rebuttal came across was that my reasoning why is wrong and it's pointless to see it that way, when there's all these other ways.  Basically "You're going to get germs anyway, so there's no point in this one particular measure to slightly narrow down the possibility of getting germs."  I disagree.  Whatever, it isn't really a big deal.

Furthermore, people deathly afraid of germs and wear stuff like gloves to avoid them are 6-7 times more likely to get sick than non-paranoid people.

I think this remark could easily be interpreted as saying that people who are very germ-conscious are just being paranoid.

[slycordinator]

To-may-to, to-mah-to.  That's like saying "I didn't call you an asshole, I said you were acting like one" (my psycho-ex was particularly fond of saying this to people).

Pointless drivel. You gave an explanation and I pointed out why I think it's wrong thinking. If this reminds you of an ex-girlfriend, so be it. But please don't project your hatred for some girl onto me.

The way your rebuttal came across was that my reasoning why is wrong and it's pointless to see it that way, when there's all these other ways.  Basically "You're going to get germs anyway, so there's no point in this one particular measure to slightly narrow down the possibility of getting germs."  I disagree.  Whatever, it isn't really a big deal.

You reduce the germs by an infintessimal amount. Hence why I think it's not something to worry about.

I think this remark could easily be interpreted as saying that people who are very germ-conscious are just being paranoid.

And I think that there's a difference between being germ-conscious and being worried about the number of germs on a fork.

[bosk1]

Sly, knock it off.  As another mod already pointed out, you're stirring up a fight over nothing.

[lateralus88]

If I were to stick a fork in my dishwasher, he yells a bunch of shit at me in Spanish, then goes to the hospital.  After an investigation, I would probably lose my job and maybe even face jail time.  I personally just hand them gently to him, and at the end of the night, feed him very well and thank him for all the hard work.  This way, my forks always end up nice and shiny.

Holy lol

[lonestar]

If I were to stick a fork in my dishwasher, he yells a bunch of shit at me in Spanish, then goes to the hospital.  After an investigation, I would probably lose my job and maybe even face jail time.  I personally just hand them gently to him, and at the end of the night, feed him very well and thank him for all the hard work.  This way, my forks always end up nice and shiny.

Holy lol

Thank you, I was waiting for someone to appreciate that gem.

[bosk1]

I appreciated it.  But I got distracted by your hair and forgot to post.

[slycordinator]

Sly, knock it off.  As another mod already pointed out, you're stirring up a fight over nothing.

Honestly, I didn't initially intend this to be a fight. Although, I was done with the discussion anyway. It was obviously going nowhere and I didn't come back on till now...

And sorry if I was being a dick toward anyone who has a more "OCD" tendency.

[MetalManiac666]

Face down.  I haven't really thought about putting them the other way as that's the way it's always been done in my household.