Quote from: CraftyCaleb2483 on April 25, 2025, 05:45:43 AMAnd that is a shame

Not really.  Do you think Rolling Stones fans are, in general, more excited to see them perform material from their newest album than to perform their classics?  

They are not.

It's the nature of having a huge body of work and a long time in the game.  Nothing more.

I can't name any band in history who's newer material is as well-regarded as their earlier stuff though. It's just the life-cycle of a band and I'm guessing most bands are happy if they're still able to play live, draw decent audiences, and release an album that does moderately well.

I appreciate them for deciding to play the whole thing on their next tour - it's probably my least favorite album of theirs at this point, but I appreciate them not fading into nostalgia-band territory.

Quote from: CraftyCaleb2483 on April 25, 2025, 05:45:43 AMAnd that is a shame

I agree. I would like nothing more than newer DT music to be held in higher regard compared to the older material. It'd be so much better for the band. However, the music itself works against such a scenario.

Quote from: Kocak on April 25, 2025, 05:28:45 AMSure, I never denied the existence of fans who'd be more excited to hear the newer music. However, you are in the minority.

And that is a shame

Quote from: Dream Team on April 25, 2025, 05:09:12 AMGood counter-points.

Sorry Kocak, but I'm a million times more excited to hear Midnight Messiah than I am PMU.

Sure, I never denied the existence of fans who'd be more excited to hear the newer music. However, you are in the minority.

Good counter-points.

Sorry Kocak, but I'm a million times more excited to hear Midnight Messiah than I am PMU.

It's a TAMA promo video, i believe he already did a Sabian video

Quote from: HOF on April 24, 2025, 02:48:21 PMI think "legacy act"  might be a more fitting description of older bands who still tour on the strength of a notable back catalog

Fair enough. My aim isn't to overlook their successes when arguing what I am arguing.

Quote from: HOF on April 24, 2025, 02:48:21 PMeven if they are continuing to release new music that is well received by their fans or the broader public.

There is a difference between the core fanbase being receptive to every release and appealing to their broader fanbase, attempting to expand the pool. The new music, I think, is well-received by the core fanbase but they have not managed to grow the overall audience, especially during the Mangini era.

Dream Theater has done a very good job of maintaining their core fanbase. Kudos to them for that.

There is also a geographical divergence that one would need to consider to assess such a situation. Due to changing musical tastes and market conditions, Dream Theater are comparatively far more popular in Europe and South America than they are in North America. The purchasing power and preferences within those markets differ from North America and the overall per capita profit is lower compared to North America. So, despite relatively sustained popularity, the band isn't able to make as much profit from these markets. The "Come to Brazil" army isn't as profitable as the small band of bandits in Iowa.

As it is the easiest way to do so, we often gauge reception through what people say online, but that does not translate to financial success. It's often misleading.

This isn't just true of Dream Theater by the way. A lot of rock and metal bands have similar experiences.

Quote from: Schurftkut on April 23, 2025, 04:00:08 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_9L0m9xers

Mike's new kit rundown

He didn't go over the cymbals 

Ooh I've got a good controversial opinion, Schmedley Wilcox is better than Instrumedley