A Perfect Circle - Thirteenth Step

Quote from: lonestar on Today at 02:32:58 PMThat Nightwish track is on spotify, same live version

https://open.spotify.com/track/6Paon2GSO2btqO6qmS6hSE?si=s3w8feogT-i4amo8UTdBxg&context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A2EIvvMqgrCHORCpQBmJDjm

Oh damn thank you! I swear I looked and couldn't find it, then again I am a dummy. Anyway, it's added to the playlist.

First impressions:

?? - The music is epic, the vocals I'm undecided about

?? - Am I supposed to take this song seriously?

?? - Wait....jingle didn't submit this?

?? - This song might've overstayed it's welcome

?? - Normally I'd want a bit more variety but this great just the way it is

?? - Good, but I don't think this specific style of music really sticks with me

?? - I'm honestly surprised you sent this

?? - I was kind of worried this would end up as a jam track with some soloing over it but it actually turned to be a damn good song

?? - A pop song with a touch of porcupine tree?

?? - Hrmm, I think I'd call this uptempo blues....

?? - A little disjointed, a little long, but still really excellent

?? - This is taking me back....

?? - No question about it, this is heavy as hell but I feel like it's missing something

?? - Incredible voice, I'm still iffy about the song

I'm glad Mangini was able to at least get a  chance to shine especially on the last couple albums. The Alien, the View title track and Pale Blue Dot are Mangini's 3 finest moments with DT, IMO. Absolutely phenomenal drumming, and some of my favourite tracks from that era. Anyone have any favourite Mangini songs or moments?

Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on Today at 07:00:07 PMThe most underrated Mangini era song?! The Bigger Picture...I'm listening to this beauty right now. Love the section beginning 3:27. As John's solo progresses you hear Mangini gradually add layers to what starts out as a very simple beat with few fills.

Love that part! Such a good song (I think the self - titled in general is better than is often given credit for).

Hey all - here's a new interview that was just posted that discusses some of the things we've been wondering about with MP's return to the band. Worth checking out!

https://www.loudersound.com/features/dream-theatre-wembley-arena

Enjoy!

Quote from: TAC on Today at 06:59:53 PM..and NO KRUG!

A freaking Men brother

Update:  I've quoted the legal gobbledy-gook from a new filing, but my summary is as follows. 
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59827948/united-states-v-schaffer/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

The Supreme Court ruled in the Fisher case that the Obstruction of an Official proceeding charge needed to show evidence of an actual intent to steal or destroy government documents.  I.E., the idiots parading through the capitol taking selfies shouldn't be charged, but the people truly entering the capitol with intent to disrupt the congressional proceeding, or steal the electoral votes, etc. can be charged with obstruction.

The US government prosecution and Jon's defense have agreed that his testimony confirms an alleged attempt of obstruction and as such, his guilty plea to that charge stands.  They will ask him to swear under oath that he understands this, which means that he probably wouldn't be able to appeal that charge after his sentencing. 

It looks like the recommended 4-7 year sentence is still on the table. I'm rather proud that the government took a couple of months to review Jon's case and figure out how to ensure that this charge stuck and that he didn't get away with just trespassing, given his ties to the Oathkeepers and what I assume is pretty intensive knowledge of what was going to happen on January 6th.

QuoteOn April 16, 2021, the defendant accepted responsibility and pled guilty, pursuant to a
cooperation plea agreement, to one count of Obstruction of an Official Proceeding, in violation of
18 U.S.C. §§ 1512(c)(2), and one count of entering and remaining in a restricted building or
grounds with a deadly or dangerous weapon, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1752(a)(1), (b)(1)(A).
Since that time, in United States v. Fischer, the Supreme Court held that to prove a violation of 18
U.S.C. § 1512(c)(2) "the Government must establish that the defendant impaired the availability
or integrity for use in an official proceeding of records, documents, objects, or as we earlier
explained, other things used in the proceeding, or attempted to do so." 603 U.S. ----, 144 S. Ct.
2176 (June 28, 2024) (emphasis added)

The parties agree that the facts admitted to by the defendant in his statement of offense
during his guilty plea are sufficient to establish an attempted violation of Section 1512(c)(2).
Nonetheless, out of an abundance of caution, the parties have attached here an addendum to the
statement of offense. The parties would ask that the Court place the defendant under oath at the
start of the sentencing hearing to have him adopt the supplemental statement of offense, to make
sure he understands the elements of the offense of obstruction of an official proceeding, as clarified
by the Supreme Court in Fischer, and to have the parties declare on the record their position that
there is a sufficient factual and legal basis to support the defendant's guilty plea.

Oregon with the gutsy win in an insanely tight and entertaining game.

There's a beautiful record from Charlie Haden and Pat Metheny called Beyond the Missouri Sky (Short Stories). One of those records that goes well with a quiet night at home and a glass of wine. Pat is one of those players you listen to and ask rhetorically 'how do you do what you do.'

The first minute of The Alien REALLY cooks. The rest of the song is fine but I don't return to it often. Night Terror sounds more generic to me and I don't really feel the need to return to it until the album is out. Definitely on the low end of the singles for me.