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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: Accelerando on December 28, 2009, 11:56:28 PM
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Hey im looking to buy a couple Van Halen albums. I have 5150 and Van Halen, as well as The Best of Both Worlds Greatest Hits album. I guess the ones i should looking at buying are
VHII
Women and Children First
Fair Warning
Diver Down
1984
For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge
i think those are the ones i need...?? Which ones are worth my money
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I would say the first three especially...classic VH albums
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VHII
Women and Children First
Fair Warning
Diver Down
1984
For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge
i think those are the ones i need...?? Which ones are worth my money
Diver Down is pretty lame, but the rest are all worth getting, for sure. Throw Balance in the mix, too.
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they are ALL worth the money....and while you're at it...get Sammy's Unboxed...because baby....there's only one way to ROCK!!!
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The Sammy stuff isn't worth your time, IMO, but all the Roth albums are classics.
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The Sammy stuff isn't worth your time, IMO, but all the Roth albums are classics.
Well, the Sammy stuff is OK, but true Van Halen is the Roth era.
Diver Down is easily the worst of the 6 Roth albums, but they are all worth getting.
Remember though, each Roth/VH era albums only run about 35 minutes each! :lol
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The Sammy stuff isn't worth your time.
Blasphemer.
I'd go with VHII, 1984, and F.U.C.K.
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Coz, I love VHII and take it over their first album anyday. But I prefer WACF and FW. Funny thing is about 1984, once you get past the shit (Jump/Panama), it actually might be their "heaviest" album.
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Jump and Panama shit? LOL
And VH2 has nothing on the first album, although it's still good.
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And VH2 has nothing on the first album, although it's still good.
Hey they're both great! I just prefer VHII. I love I'm The One and On Fire from the first album.
VH is very underappriciated, and I can't believe how little I hear of them on this forum. It's a band that everyone needs to hear. Forget the Sammy stuff, their formula was set by then, but you cannot beat the energy from those DLR era albums.
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TAC, please stop losing cool points by disrespecting the Hagar era.
Roth was fun, but he was also a fool and a buffoon, and is the second-luckiest person in the history of rock and roll (right behind Ringo Starr).
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Get all the ones you listed, they're all amazing. Diver Down's got nothing on the others but it's a good listen. Don't listen to other people, the Hagar era has got some great stuff. Such as this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFUVmLVqRzc
DRILLLLLLLLLLLLL
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TAC, please stop losing cool points by disrespecting the Hagar era.
Roth was fun, but he was also a fool and a buffoon, and is the second-luckiest person in the history of rock and roll (right behind Ringo Starr).
LOL! Stop it hef! I'd go with Fair Warning and Balence.
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I saw VanHagar...on the balance tour..must have been late 90's.....before the interwebz really got going...I had no idea he used a real drill.....i was 4 rows back in general..he comes out with the red and white drill... i just about lost my mind....
Michael Anthony and an I shared a beer.
(on a competley unrelated note i probably have hepatitis A through L, but it was worth it)
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Now he only used a drill as far as holding in in front of the pickups to make noise. For ACTUAL drill usage, see this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD-C-oS--xQ
Starts at around 2:40.
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VH is very underappriciated, and I can't believe how little I hear of them on this forum. It's a band that everyone needs to hear. Forget the Sammy stuff, their formula was set by then, but you cannot beat the energy from those DLR era albums.
Well this is a prog focused forum, so there are many great bands that get overlooked here. I'm usually apprehensive about starting threads about rock stuff because while there are plenty of us who would discuss the rock, the threads often get bogged down with haters.
I wouldn't count out the Sammy stuff entirely though. It's obviously not the same caliber of the DLR stuff, but I find it's better not to compare them and just treat them as different bands. Sammy Hagar is an incredible singer, and there are plenty of great Van Hagar songs, especially if you like the ballads. But at the same time, it does lack the spirit of rock that the earlier albums had.
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WaCF and FW are the tops, IMO. The prior being one of those life-altering albums for me growing up. I often overlook II because it had the singles that define what I hated about VH, but it also had some great music. Diver Down was where they started their decline, I think, and 1984 was shit (just my personal opinion). I don't really give the Hagar era much though.
Roth was fun, but he was also a fool and a buffoon, and is the second-luckiest person in the history of rock and roll (right behind Ringo Starr).
DLR was one of the ultimate front men. While the man wasn't much of a lead singer, he was a huge part of the band's identity. I don't consider it luck when you invent a style.
And if you wanna talk about the luckiest people in rock, his bass player is among the upper echelon. His background vocals were a key part of their music, but as a musician, he was dead weight.
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TAC, please stop losing cool points by disrespecting the Hagar era.
:lol
Hey thanks! I didn't know I had cool points to lose!
I wouldn't count out the Sammy stuff entirely though. It's obviously not the same caliber of the DLR stuff, but I find it's better not to compare them and just treat them as different bands. Sammy Hagar is an incredible singer, and there are plenty of great Van Hagar songs, especially if you like the ballads. But at the same time, it does lack the spirit of rock that the earlier albums had.
I don't really compare them. It IS really like 2 different bands. Truth be told, I'm not really a Sammy fan anyway. I do think they had some decent songs, but I haven't bothered to trade in my old cassettes for any Van Hagar CDs.
I went to see Van Hagar live plenty of times and they really were great shows.
and 1984 was shit (just my personal opinion).
Well Bart, I can understand that, but after the "hits" (Jump/Panama/I'll Wait), there's some serios rockin' going on. I'd ask you to give it another chance.
Tracks like Drop Dead Legs, House Of Pain, Top Jimmy, Hot For Teacher, and Girl Gone Bad make this a lot more solid album than it's typically given credit for. It contains some of their heaviest playing, almost on par with Fair Warning.
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Coz, I love VHII and take it over their first album anyday.
:eek :eek :eek Yikes, I cannot agree with that. I think II is easily their second worst album of the Roth era (only better than the mediocre Diver Down). It has a few good songs, but it cannot touch I or Fair Warning, easily the two best they did with Roth, and Women and Children First and 1984 are also considerably better, IMO. :)
Forget the Sammy stuff
Rubbish. :p
For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge is great (probably THE heaviest VH record to date, and doesn't have any of those sappy ballads that can be found on the other Van Hagar records), Balance is probably their most underrated record to date (very solid the whole way through, and with three or four truly great VH songs), and 5150 is good, as well (even though it sounds very dated).
And I gotta give a shout-out to III, the Cherone record. It is a lot better than most give it credit for being. No, it isn't as good as their best records, but it is better than the two worst Roth era records, as well as OU812. There are some damn fine songs on that record.
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Hey Kev..Happy New year! :lol
Never checked out III.
I actually like OU812, and I know F.U.C.K. is pretty heavy. Perhaps I'll go back and give my tapes a listen, but like I said, I'm just not into Sammy....and I found those albums with him, though well constructed on their own, lack a certain spontineity that the Roth albums did....but then again, it's been over 15 years since I've listened to the Van Hagar albums....
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I willl admit that Van Hagar never had the balls out boogie-style tunes that the Roth era had, like Hot for Teacher, but they were good in a different way with Sammy.
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I willl admit that Van Hagar never had the balls out boogie-style tunes that the Roth era had, like Hot for Teacher, but they were good in a different way with Sammy.
Wholeheartedly agree. They were good in the "pump your fist out of your window singing Why Can't This Be Love" sense of good. Which is still damn good in my book. :tup
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Hey Kev..Happy New year! :lol
Same to you. ;) :lol :biggrin:
Never checked out III.
You should. It is a good CD once you get used to the fact that neither DLR nor Hagar is the vocalist on it.
I actually like OU812, and I know F.U.C.K. is pretty heavy. Perhaps I'll go back and give my tapes a listen, but like I said, I'm just not into Sammy....and I found those albums with him, though well constructed on their own, lack a certain spontineity that the Roth albums did....but then again, it's been over 15 years since I've listened to the Van Hagar albums....
The Roth albums definitely have a more raw and fun vibe to them, and VH is definitely fun party music, so I hear what you are saying. :)
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My second VH album was Balance. Great album.
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Without reading the whole thread, I'm just gonna say, sir, all you need is their best album, which is Balance. It is indeed one of the finest rock-and-roll albums in my opinion.
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Never checked out III.
You should. It is a good CD once you get used to the fact that neither DLR nor Hagar is the vocalist on it.
The only part I'm familiar with is A Year to the Day, which I thought was quite good. I've always meant to give the album a chance, but never got around to it.
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I never have given it a shot, either...listening to year to the day now.
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"Year to the Day" is pretty good, but I think "Dirty Water Dog" and "Fire in the Hole" are the most likely songs to appeal to those wanting a return to the VH days of old. And while it is very different for them, I think "Once" is one of the best songs VH ever did.
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cool, buying those songs right now and will check out tomorrow...thanks
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GET VHII! It's my personal favorite!
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Van Halen = great summer music...Always!
NP: "And the Cradle Will Rock..." :hat
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Summer is not complete without Van Halen.
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Summer is not complete without Van Halen.
Absolutely! Let's get in the time machine and set it on 1981.
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Summer is not complete without Van Halen.
Absolutely! Let's get in the time machine and set it on 1981.
You can drop me off in 1886.
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Summer is not complete without Van Halen.
Absolutely! Let's get in the time machine and set it on 1981.
You can drop me off in 1886.
:lol
OK.. I'll be sure to pick you up on the way back!
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Summer is not complete without Van Halen.
Absolutely! Let's get in the time machine and set it on 1981.
You can drop me off in 1886.
:lol
OK.. I'll be sure to pick you up on the way back!
:tup
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dance, dance, dance the night away
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This thread should have inspired a Hagar vs. Roth poll already.
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no need, he already won many times over
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Damn, I haven't gone on my summer VH binge yet. Looks like that will have to happen very soon.
Also, Fair Warning is the undisputed champion Van Halen album. I still think the Hagar material was shit.
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I've only heard Van Halen and Balance, and they're both awesome. I like VH more because of all the classics that are on it (a noob would think that it's a greatest hits album, just by looking at the first four songs). I also have 1984, For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, and Right Here, Right Now, but haven't gotten around to listening to them yet.
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I'm not familiar with Van Halen, but obviously I know all of their singles very well and I have never liked any of them. Does the rest of their material warrant further exploration given that premise?
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If you don't like any of their singles, then I probably wouldn't bother with the rest of their stuff. Not saying all of their singles are their best songs, but I can't see someone not liking VH's most popular songs and then liking the more obscure ones.
And yep, Birch Boy, the debut does sound like a greatest hits record. Over half of the songs on it are still regularly played on classic rock radio stations.
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It's pretty amazing what a strong debut album VH was. I don't know if another band has released a debut album with as many classics as Van Halen. Gun N' Roses' Appetite For Destruction had "Sweet Child O' Mine", "Paradise City", and "Welcome To The Jungle", but VH had at least four classics, maybe five depending on if you'd call it a classic or not.
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Boston's debut trumps them all, as all eight songs are STILL played on the radio on a regular basis, 34 years later, but VH's would definitely not be far behind.
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I've been meaning to get into Boston. So I guess as far as my music library, Van Halen has the best debut.
Also, any news on a tour soon? I've been hearing about a 2010 tour, but not anything official.
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VH w/DLR is good. VH wo/DLR is not as good.
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I've been meaning to get into Boston.
The debut is not only one of the best debut records ever, it is one of the best rock records ever. Get it ASAP. :)
Also, any news on a tour soon? I've been hearing about a 2010 tour, but not anything official.
I haven't heard anything, but my interest level is nil. EVH has turned the band into a joke, what with kicking Michael Anthony out for his son, and Roth is a shell of his former self, on pretty much every level.
VH w/DLR is good. VH wo/DLR is not as good.
I think that is what most would say, but I wouldn't. I like all eras of VH.
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Also, any news on a tour soon? I've been hearing about a 2010 tour, but not anything official.
Don't know, don't care. See Kev's post. Van Halen without Michael Anthony is not Van Halen, it's just the traveling ego show.
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Also, any news on a tour soon? I've been hearing about a 2010 tour, but not anything official.
Don't know, don't care. See Kev's post. Van Halen without Michael Anthony is not Van Halen, it's just the traveling ego show.
You were wrong about Dave, but this is dead on.
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I'd recommend any of the Hagar albums because although I've never heard anything but the singles, I hate DLR with a passion. Van Halen is extremely overrated anyway.
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I saw Van Halen in 07, and they put on a hell of a show. It's confusing to me that someone would care so much about who's manning the bass in fucking Van Halen. The bass isn't even a remotely essential part of their music, let alone who's providing it. The kid can hold it down just as well as Anthony could, and I don't really miss the lack of his backing vocals. Just doesn't bother me I guess.
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I am one of the very, very, very few who thinks that the Sammy Hagar era Van Halen is better than David Lee Roth era Van Halen.
Balance all the way!
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I saw Van Halen in 07, and they put on a hell of a show. It's confusing to me that someone would care so much about who's manning the bass in fucking Van Halen. The bass isn't even a remotely essential part of their music, let alone who's providing it. The kid can hold it down just as well as Anthony could, and I don't really miss the lack of his backing vocals. Just doesn't bother me I guess.
To me, it is a matter of principle. EVH has shown himself to be a prick of the highest order, and he has gotten enough money from me already (own all 11 VH studio albums on CD, and have seen them three times, twice with Hagar and once with Cherone). He isn't getting anymore, especially when he finally get Roth back in the band and then ruined the chance of the original VH touring by kicking Anthony out of the band out of spite and replacing him with his teenage kid.
Balance all the way!
Damn good CD! "Feelin'" and "The Seventh Seal" are two of the best VH songs ever..of any era. :coolio
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I saw Van Halen in 07, and they put on a hell of a show. It's confusing to me that someone would care so much about who's manning the bass in fucking Van Halen. The bass isn't even a remotely essential part of their music, let alone who's providing it. The kid can hold it down just as well as Anthony could, and I don't really miss the lack of his backing vocals. Just doesn't bother me I guess.
To me, it is a matter of principle. EVH has shown himself to be a prick of the highest order, and he has gotten enough money from me already (own all 11 VH studio albums on CD, and have seen them three times, twice with Hagar and once with Cherone). He isn't getting anymore, especially when he finally get Roth back in the band and then ruined the chance of the original VH touring by kicking Anthony out of the band out of spite and replacing him with his teenage kid.
Aside from all that, there's an image that's lost. I have little respect for MA as a bass player, but he's essential to them still being Van Halen. Lousy solos and hammering JD is frankly far more important in a Van Halen concert than actual bass playing ability.
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Good point. With VH, the party on stage is a lot of the charm from a live standpoint. With the current lineup (if you can consider them current or active), it is like the Van Halen family show with a front man whom they can't stand, but is there because he just happened to be their original singer.
Say what you want about Van Hagar, but they were always having a blast on stage. Sadly, EVH held Anthony's friendship with Hagar against him, which is why he kicked him out of the band. It really is laughable how Eddie Van Halen has pretty much made a mockery of his own band all on his own.
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dance, dance, dance the night away
That song is a guilty pleasure of mine.
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I used to be a huge Van Halen fan. Not that I dont like them anymore, I just don't listen to them as much as I used to. While the DLR era produced consistentyl better albums than Van Hagar, 5150, F.U.C.K, and Balance are really really great albums. Also, for anyone who thinks Van Hagar sucks, you really need to see them perform live. Hagar is such a great performer and a much better vocalist than DLR. To really compare both eras though is pretty tough considering they dont sound anything alike. Also if Sammy Hagar is coming to your town, I sugest checking him out. His solo songs are all the greatest (he does have a few really awesome songs though), but the guy knows how to put on a show. I have both Van Halen DVDs (with Hagar), two Sammy Hagar solo DVDs, and Ive seen Van Halen with Hagar live and Ive seen Sammy Hagar solo live.
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dance, dance, dance the night away
That song is a guilty pleasure of mine.
Perhaps my favourite VH song.
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Hagar definitely has some good solo stuff. Nothing I would call ground-breaking or a must-have, but he has plenty of good old-fashioned hard rock songs. The time to see Van Hagar was in the 90s. They were seemingly on tour for years in the early to mid 90s (touring on FUCK, and then on Right Here, Right Now), and they always put on a good show. I've seen Hagar solo a few times, too, and he is good in that role, too. The guy knows how to work a crowd, especially here in St. Louis, where he is beloved like almost no there for some bizarre reason.
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Kev,
I know what you mean about Hagar being so loved. He really has a large crowd of die hard fans who love him. You really notice this by watching his DVDs and seeing all the stuff people through on stage. I always saw him as kind of like a Jimmy Buffet of Rock'N'Roll. That beach bum type of guy who has a lot of die hard fans.
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Ah, Van Halen... It has been a while since the last time I heard them. Gonna hear some F.U.C.K., VHII and Fair Warning right now.
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I :heart "Summer Nights".
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I saw Van Halen in 07, and they put on a hell of a show. It's confusing to me that someone would care so much about who's manning the bass in fucking Van Halen. The bass isn't even a remotely essential part of their music, let alone who's providing it. The kid can hold it down just as well as Anthony could, and I don't really miss the lack of his backing vocals. Just doesn't bother me I guess.
To me, it is a matter of principle. EVH has shown himself to be a prick of the highest order, and he has gotten enough money from me already (own all 11 VH studio albums on CD, and have seen them three times, twice with Hagar and once with Cherone). He isn't getting anymore, especially when he finally get Roth back in the band and then ruined the chance of the original VH touring by kicking Anthony out of the band out of spite and replacing him with his teenage kid.
Aside from all that, there's an image that's lost. I have little respect for MA as a bass player, but he's essential to them still being Van Halen. Lousy solos and hammering JD is frankly far more important in a Van Halen concert than actual bass playing ability.
True, but also, the background vocals cannot be ignored. they have always been an essential part of the VH sound.
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BTW, I just listened to Van Halen III this morning, for the first time in at least 10 years. God, it was awful. There were interesting things going on here and there, but overall, yuck.
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the background vocals cannot be ignored. they have always been an essential part of the VH sound.
Very true. Actually, I remember reading that on that last tour they did with Roth, they piped in the background vocals from the original VH albums, so it was like, "Yeah, we don't want Michael Anthony around anymore, but we are still gonna use his essential background vocals." Lame.
BTW, I just listened to Van Halen III this morning, for the first time in at least 10 years. God, it was awful. There were interesting things going on here and there, but overall, yuck.
Boooo! ;)
But honestly, it hasn't aged that well for me, but I still think it is a solid CD. I was pretty crazy over it when it first came out, but time hasn't been that kind to it. But I still think that "Once" is one of their best songs ever, and there are three or four other very good VH songs on it.
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I think the next time I do the Van Halen survivor, I will include III (I haven't the last two times).
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The problem with III was that it was experimental. A lot of VH fans were already gonna not like it because it had a singer that wasn't Roth or Hagar, but then they made it a bit too out there (by their standards), and boom, there came the backlash. I mean, to be honest, the average VH fan doesn't want the band experimenting or trying to be different; they want them doing their usual fun, partying music. III was not that. Throw in a new singer, and it was easy to see why it flopped, generally speaking.
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The problem with III was that it was experimental. A lot of VH fans were already gonna not like it because it had a singer that wasn't Roth or Hagar, but then they made it a bit too out there (by their standards), and boom, there came the backlash. I mean, to be honest, the average VH fan doesn't want the band experimenting or trying to be different; they want them doing their usual fun, partying music. III was not that. Throw in a new singer, and it was easy to see why it flopped, generally speaking.
I guess. But then again, there is also the fact that it just isn't very good. But it wasn't Cherone's fault. I thought he sounded pretty good on it. But it just felt weird. I mean, the Hagar era definitely had a different feel than the DLR era, but it still sounded like Van Halen. This doesn't.
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Aerosmith is playing near me in three places in August, but I can't find anyone to take me :sad: With all you guys talking about how good Sammy Hagar is live, I wanna go even more now because Sammy Hagar & The Wabos are opening. Now I have more motivation to find a ride, so hopefully I'll get there.
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BTW, I am considering running a Van Halen survivor again, but I don't want to unless I have more than 2 or 3 people who will participate. Anybody interested?
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sounds bueno to me
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BTW, I am considering running a Van Halen survivor again, but I don't want to unless I have more than 2 or 3 people who will participate. Anybody interested?
I will, granted, for the albums I have (which I think are only three or four studio albums).
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I can do the Roth era.
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I can do the Roth era.
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The problem with III was that it was experimental. A lot of VH fans were already gonna not like it because it had a singer that wasn't Roth or Hagar, but then they made it a bit too out there (by their standards), and boom, there came the backlash. I mean, to be honest, the average VH fan doesn't want the band experimenting or trying to be different; they want them doing their usual fun, partying music. III was not that. Throw in a new singer, and it was easy to see why it flopped, generally speaking.
I guess. But then again, there is also the fact that it just isn't very good. But it wasn't Cherone's fault. I thought he sounded pretty good on it. But it just felt weird. I mean, the Hagar era definitely had a different feel than the DLR era, but it still sounded like Van Halen. This doesn't.
That's because Eddie Van Halen went experimental...hence, my earlier post. ;) :biggrin:
BTW, I am considering running a Van Halen survivor again, but I don't want to unless I have more than 2 or 3 people who will participate. Anybody interested?
I can't promise anything, as I rarely look at the polls/survivors section, and my annual VH summer phase usually doesn't last too long, so I might forget about it in the early stages. But I'll try. :p
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You guys that only know the Roth era, listen to some friggin' Hagar.
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I did.....it was ok
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What exactly is the whole survivor thing? Sounds interesting. I'd participate. I own every Van Halen album, except for III. I even have 1984 and For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge on cassette
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What exactly is the whole survivor thing? Sounds interesting. I'd participate. I own every Van Halen album, except for III. I even have 1984 and For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge on cassette
It's a game, originally modeled on the TV show Survivor. There is a whole subforum for them: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?board=9.0
Basically, we'll go album by album, voting off one song per round. At the end, all of the album survivors (and maybe the runner-ups, as well) go into a final survivor. It's a fun way to determine the forum's favorite song (or band, or whatever that survivor is about).
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BTW, I am considering running a Van Halen survivor again, but I don't want to unless I have more than 2 or 3 people who will participate. Anybody interested?
I'll participate right up to the point that I get disgusted by irrational picks and leave in a huff.
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BTW, I am considering running a Van Halen survivor again, but I don't want to unless I have more than 2 or 3 people who will participate. Anybody interested?
I'll participate right up to the point that I get disgusted by irrational picks and leave in a huff.
lol
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BTW, I am considering running a Van Halen survivor again, but I don't want to unless I have more than 2 or 3 people who will participate. Anybody interested?
I'll participate right up to the point that I get disgusted by irrational picks and leave in a huff.
Roughly translated, that means when:
-"Ice Cream Man" finishes higher than last.
-"Best of Both Worlds" finishes higher than "5150" and "Summer Nights."
-Anyone doesn't "When It's Love" as the worst VH song ever.
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When It's Love is not the worst VH song ever.
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See, this is what I mean. :facepalm:
:p :p
In all fairness, some of the tripe from Diver Down is probably worse.
Also, I listened to some of the Cherone album in my car earlier today when driving to a bunch of places, and listening to "Ballot or the Bullet," I was reminded of why I loved that song when it first came out: his slide guitar work is killer, on the electric and especially on the acoustic at the end of each chorus. That is very different for VH, but pretty bad ass, nonetheless. Unfortunately, the meat of the song is bogged down by some clunky vocal melodies (and that is a song where Cherone tries too hard to sound like Hagar, instead of singing like himself), but the music in that song is terrific. Hell, that main riff alone is :metal.
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I'll participate in that Survivor thing.
What I always liked about III was the different feel to it. The first song I heard from it was Without You which was on the Video Greatest Hits DVD. I liked that rock sound it had.
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We've started! I hope you all participate!
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=14950.0
For all who have said you participate through the DLR albums, I really hope you will stick around once we get to the Hagar era. Listen to those albums again, and hopefully you will discover something new in them.
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See, this is what I mean. :facepalm:
:p :p
In all fairness, some of the tripe from Diver Down is probably worse.
Also, I listened to some of the Cherone album in my car earlier today when driving to a bunch of places, and listening to "Ballot or the Bullet," I was reminded of why I loved that song when it first came out: his slide guitar work is killer, on the electric and especially on the acoustic at the end of each chorus. That is very different for VH, but pretty bad ass, nonetheless. Unfortunately, the meat of the song is bogged down by some clunky vocal melodies (and that is a song where Cherone tries too hard to sound like Hagar, instead of singing like himself), but the music in that song is terrific. Hell, that main riff alone is :metal.
I think that VHIII would have been great(I still like it a lot) if a real producer was at the helm and not Eddie's buddy. Balance is a great album because the band was pushed by a very good producer.
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Listened to the first 4 albums over the weekend and revised a couple of opinions I had. I came to the conclusion that Mean Street is probably their finest effort. It has everything you want in a VH song, and all 4 of them turn in great performances (unusual, IMO). It's pretty much perfect. Even in it's placement as the opener of a darker album. They really nailed it.
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I really like Michael Anthony's bass tone on the VH albums, especially their first few ones. He's one of my many influences as a bass player.
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VH1 and II... thats all ones needs :metal
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Anyone who's a fan of decent hard rock, should own a copy of Van Halen 1. It's like required listening for your "Hard Rock 101" class.
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Listened to the first 4 albums over the weekend and revised a couple of opinions I had. I came to the conclusion that Mean Street is probably their finest effort. It has everything you want in a VH song, and all 4 of them turn in great performances (unusual, IMO). It's pretty much perfect. Even in it's placement as the opener of a darker album. They really nailed it.
It is hard to argue with this. "Mean Street" might not be my favorite VH song, but it would be top 5. It is terrific. :hat
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Once the tapped into fades out and the main riff comes in - it's one of the scariest and most awesome guitar tones you will ever hear. It's the kind of guitar tone that makes you want to throw all of your amps and effects in the trash and give up. But then again, EVH always did have a way with guitar tones like that.
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Fair Warning is dark, edgy, melodic, heavy and everything I realy love about VH. This is one of those albums I never get tired of spinning.
Did I just date myself? Album? Spinning? :laugh:
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Fair Warning is dark, edgy, melodic, heavy and everything I realy love about VH. This is one of those albums I never get tired of spinning.
Did I just date myself? Album? Spinning? :laugh:
Nothing wrong with that, and yes, Fair Warning is fantastic.