Yeeeee! Whats the previous ZPZ one like? And who's seen the latest Live in Paris DVD?I guess that's one of his bootleg dvd's that are circling around.
Yeeeee! Whats the previous ZPZ one like? And who's seen the latest Live in Paris DVD?I guess that's one of his bootleg dvd's that are circling around.
I've got the Live in Barcelona one. What's the trackslist on this one?
I have yet to see ZPZ, they're in Holland next week, play 3 shows, and I can't come to either one of them.
The previous ZPZ dvd is playing in my DVD player right now, it's one of the best music DVD's I've ever seen. Great quality of audio and video, and great band.
Yeeeee! Whats the previous ZPZ one like? And who's seen the latest Live in Paris DVD?I guess that's one of his bootleg dvd's that are circling around.
I've got the Live in Barcelona one. What's the trackslist on this one?
I have yet to see ZPZ, they're in Holland next week, play 3 shows, and I can't come to either one of them.
The previous ZPZ dvd is playing in my DVD player right now, it's one of the best music DVD's I've ever seen. Great quality of audio and video, and great band.
Yeah i just looked it up, its like a half hour boot from 1980 I think, not sure of the tracklist. I think Billy the Mountain is on it?
I was considering purchasing the ZPZ dvd, might just have to now under your reccomendation.
The only zappa album I have is Hot Rats. I've only given it one or two spins so far, its not bad, but it seems very jam-oriented.
The only zappa album I have is Hot Rats. I've only given it one or two spins so far, its not bad, but it seems very jam-oriented.
yep, but only trying that album is pretty much a sin.
Where would a good place to start with Zappa be? It's kind of intimidating to get started with him because of the massive discography.
I'm not a fan of Hot Rats myself, and instead I'd say you should listen to Just Another Band From LA. That's a fun Mothers record.
I'm not a fan of Hot Rats myself, and instead I'd say you should listen to Just Another Band From LA. That's a fun Mothers record.
Just Another Band from L.A. is a great record, my favorite from the Flo & Eddie period. But there are already three live albums with crazy sketch bits in the list, and the early composer-Zappa period needs to be represented.
"I got a job doin radio PROOOHMOOOOH" :lol everytime.
I read a fun story about that in his biography.
He asked the Ikettes to sing that part, and they asked to be paid by every minute they sang on the album.
Frank warned them that there were difficult part, but they wanted to be paid for 2 minutes (or so), because they were only singing two minutes.
In the end it took them a week to learn it, and they got incredibly underpaid.
Always funny to hear people underestimate to play Franks music.
The only 2 Zappa albums i have are The best band you never heard in your life, and Tinseltown Rebellion which i haven't seen mentioned here. I really like them both, but how do they compare with some of his other highly rated material?
I agree on nearly all accounts with you Orbert, but I really think you should give the Mothers some more love.
I fell in love with Freak Out! lately. There are some fun songs on there, ranging from happy and simple songs, to modern classical compositions. And though not all Mothers albums are as great as Freak Out!, I still think a couple deserve more love than 'recording ourself fucking around with various pieces of musical equipment'.
I am hardly a Zappa authority, but...
I started with Hot Rats and that worked like a charm; it is mostly instrumental and has a strong fusion vibe going on; same with The Grand Wazoo, which is great, too. I think Apostrophe (') and Zoot Allures would both be great starters, as well.
Yeeeee! Whats the previous ZPZ one like? And who's seen the latest Live in Paris DVD?
The previous ZPZ dvd is playing in my DVD player right now, it's one of the best music DVD's I've ever seen. Great quality of audio and video, and great band.
The new keyboardist for the ZPZ band is kickass... and he can sing too! When we saw them the other week (awesome show btw) for a second we thought it was Scheila.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R5W_swKHJI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKsTOnMGRnU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCH42mAEwmU
Yeeeee! Whats the previous ZPZ one like? And who's seen the latest Live in Paris DVD?
The previous ZPZ dvd is playing in my DVD player right now, it's one of the best music DVD's I've ever seen. Great quality of audio and video, and great band.
I completely agree. I bought it, not knowing a whole lot about Frank Zappa, and it completely got me into his stuff. Great Quality DVD, there's really not one thing to complain about it.
Hot Rats is FUCK AMAZING.
That's a bit of a 'miss' Zappa album for me, but I hope to our dear lord that you enjoy it!
I ordered Burnt Weeny Sandwich as a Christmas present for myself. Can't wait to listen to it. :hat
You all is silly. I can listen to Hot Rats end to end, then start it again.
You all is silly. I can listen to Hot Rats end to end, then start it again.
its a great album, one of his best. but i never understood why it's his most popular album as far as ive seen.
You all is silly. I can listen to Hot Rats end to end, then start it again.
its a great album, one of his best. but i never understood why it's his most popular album as far as ive seen.
Isn't that a bit of a contradiction? It's great, one of his best, but you don't understand why it's his most popular?
Actually, I wouldn't call it his best; I couldn't pick a single "best" Zappa album. But it's definitely up there. Part of that, admittedly, is because it came so early in his career, but showed an incredible amount of sophistication as far as composition and arrangement. Up to this point, The Mothers were known for silly, funny, and/or raunchy songs. Hot Rats gave us a peek of the composer that Zappa would become, and I actually enjoy it more than his "serious" works.
I love Frank Zappa (And The Mothers Of Invention).
Seeing Zappa Plays Zappa play Apostrophe (') in it's unmitigated entirety in a week.
Beacon Theatre in New York next Friday.I love Frank Zappa (And The Mothers Of Invention).
Seeing Zappa Plays Zappa play Apostrophe (') in it's unmitigated entirety in a week.
HOLY DICK
WHAT WHERE
I NEED TO KNOW THIS SOUNDS AMAZING
Beacon Theatre in New York next Friday.I love Frank Zappa (And The Mothers Of Invention).
Seeing Zappa Plays Zappa play Apostrophe (') in it's unmitigated entirety in a week.
HOLY DICK
WHAT WHERE
I NEED TO KNOW THIS SOUNDS AMAZING
You all is silly. I can listen to Hot Rats end to end, then start it again.
If I had to pick a favorite Zappa period, it would have to be that mid-early 70's period (Wazoo, Roxy, One Size, but don't forget Over-Nite Sensation) because of the jazz-fusion angle.
George, make them dance.
Dit!
You all is silly. I can listen to Hot Rats end to end, then start it again.
As can I. Same goes for The Grand Wazoo, which I always consider its sister. :hat
George, make them dance.
Dit!
I love Zappa quotes, and this one is a really good one.
Ketchup is a vegetable!
Both ;)
The Cabbage one is on one of his first albums (I think We're Only In It For The Money), Ketchup is on an end-80ies album. Can't remember that one.
Going to look that up rightaway.
Aaah finally, not very easy to find, I believe it's Ike Willis who shouts it during 'When the lie's so big', so it's not in all lyric sites.
On a side note: Broadway the hard way might be the best post-Joe's Garage album. (Apart from the YCDTOSA series).
Time for Hots Rats AND The Grand Wazoo in one go. This is going to be great.
I don't know about the rest of you, but every time I listen to Zoot Allures, I am convinced that it is one of Zappa's best. From what I have heard, I'd put it up there with Hot Rats, The Grand Wazoo and Apostrophe (').
Hey birch, where are you sitting again tonight??Sorry, I was banned. :P
I accidentally celebrated it then! Every morning I shower to Zappa's music. And this morning I Freak Out'ed while showering!
Seriously. The only thing that matters is you were all wet and soapy while listening to it :eyebrows:
I've thought about doing that, but feared that I might be totally insane by time I was done. Being partially insane is bad enough. Also, I'm not sure if I have them all. I have 43, so I think I'm missing a few.
I've arrived at YCDTOSA 2, man this is some project. And I must say I don't like most of his output in the mid 80's.
I mean, Francesco Zappa? That was difficult to get through.
I'm finishing up my first listen of Freak Out. This is some great stuff.
Really??
And Darkshade, well, since Zappa released it, it is a Zappa album. I know he didn't write the music himself, but he arranged it for synclavier.
I'm listening to "We're Only in it for the Money" right now. This guy is a fucking nutcase. :lol
So far, I've heard Freak Out!, Ship Arriving too Late to Save a Drowning Witch, Hot Rats, and this. I probably prefer them in that order, but I think this one might sit nicely beside Freak Out! if it keeps being this awesome. Where should I go next?
Oh and I've found the Roxy DVD, in a cradle beneath the Vatican, surrounded by poodles, funny cars and white persons.
Yeah I know.
BTW, get your one-eyed ass over in the 'Biggest fan' thread, I'm eager to see how big of a Zappa fan you are (I think you outscore me)
Be-Bop is by far the highlight of the whole thing so far. The dancing segment is just amazing. :metalol:
It's out today! Carnegie Hall, with a 46 minute version of Billy the Mountain on it.
Too bad I don't have any money.....
The "You can't do that on stage anymore" discs are awesome. I've been listening to Volume 3 (I think) and it's great. Great live band.ß
The "You can't do that on stage anymore" discs are awesome. I've been listening to Volume 3 (I think) and it's great. Great live band.ß
Most fun on stage, on that disc. The Hi Ho Silver sections are really awesome.
That's a barrel of laughs, that one, how about: 'Massimo!' in Nig Bizz? fighting your way through teargass, what fun! ;D
Do you guys know what that Hi Ho Silver thing was all about? Is there any back story to that nonsense?
Sorry, apperantly it's from The Lone Ranger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDedUcmvgL8
Oh no, just on stage humor. Check out the Flo and Eddie period (Fillmore East most notably) for more of that on stage insiders jokes that crack up the members of the band, but aren't easy to understand.
What's the Uncle Meat song again... Sleeping in a Jar, has lyrics, but all insiders jokes.
Cabbage is a vegetab----
Yeah, that's the beauty of the internet. He is quickly becoming my second favorite musician (Nobody will ever touch Devin Townsend, of course). I'll probably listen to Overly Long Acronym Vol. 2 tonight.
I'm having trouble with not seeing it as a compilation album. Instead of seeing the three albums it comprises as 'parts of lather' I still see Lather as those three albums combined.
Apart from that it's long, and I've only listened to it totally, a couple of times.
In short: I'm having difficulties with it, but it can definitely be a top 10 Zappa album for me.
Need some help guys.
I have just recently got into Frank Zappa, maybe about 4 months ago and at this point, the only album I have is Hot Rats. I
absolutely love Hot Rats and I need some advice on where to go next. Any suggestions?
Thanks
I'm having trouble with not seeing it as a compilation album. Instead of seeing the three albums it comprises as 'parts of lather' I still see Lather as those three albums combined.
Apart from that it's long, and I've only listened to it totally, a couple of times.
In short: I'm having difficulties with it, but it can definitely be a top 10 Zappa album for me.
and speaking of The Grand Wazoo, I dont know about you guys, but I prefer this track order (which I think is the original track listing)
For Calvin (& His Next Two Hitchhikers)
The Grand Wazoo
Cletus Awreetus-Awrightus
Eat That Question
Blessed Relief
"I will love the police as they kick the shit out of me."
and speaking of The Grand Wazoo, I dont know about you guys, but I prefer this track order (which I think is the original track listing)
For Calvin (& His Next Two Hitchhikers)
The Grand Wazoo
Cletus Awreetus-Awrightus
Eat That Question
Blessed Relief
Never really thought about that, I'll try it once!
So I remember listening to some of "Shut Up 'N Play Yer Guitar" and not enjoying it. Any recommendations for a newbie?
I want one!
I want one!
Wow! That would've been something to see.Hard to believe its almost forty years ago. Many people have called the '73 line up the best that he put together - it was certainly amazing.
My favorite lineup for sure.
Let's face it; everyone who played with Frank was top-shelf. He wouldn't have it any other way. But something about that band, and maybe also the times, the material they had to work with, and everything else, really came together.
Anything you want to do... is all right
Actually more than twice as old. But it's not the age, it's the mileage.
So Joost, how is ´Philly´ btw? I´m dying for some ´new´ Zappa...
I watched the Classic Albums documentary about Apostrophe and Over-Nite Sensation. I had heard Apostrophe once or twice before, but the doc was so entertaining that I decided to get Over-Nite Sensation as well. Fantastic stuff.
I really enjoyed the xylophone player's comments on how a lot of the stuff he wrote used sus2 chords instead of the normal triad. That was something I never really picked up on until I started to really look for it.I watched the Classic Albums documentary about Apostrophe and Over-Nite Sensation. I had heard Apostrophe once or twice before, but the doc was so entertaining that I decided to get Over-Nite Sensation as well. Fantastic stuff.
True! That is the one where Dweezil has the original tapes and shows the camera the different parts in Zomby Woof right? Very very entertaining!
Getting into Sheik kind of backfired for the moment (though one could debate whether the outcome is good or bad). Apostrophe is pretty much the only thing I can find myself listening to lately. This album is just way too good.
Getting into Sheik kind of backfired for the moment (though one could debate whether the outcome is good or bad). Apostrophe is pretty much the only thing I can find myself listening to lately. This album is just way too good.
Give it some time. The way it starts with the Doo-Wop parody "I Have Been in You" through me for a loop the first time I heard it, and I don't know if I've ever really recovered, to be honest. But the rest of the album is pretty great.
It helped to learn later that he was specifically reacting to the Peter Frampton song "I'm in You" which he thought was about the stupidest thing he'd ever heard, and he held it as an example of the depths to which pop music had sunk in the later 70's.
Getting into Sheik kind of backfired for the moment (though one could debate whether the outcome is good or bad). Apostrophe is pretty much the only thing I can find myself listening to lately. This album is just way too good.
Give it some time. The way it starts with the Doo-Wop parody "I Have Been in You" through me for a loop the first time I heard it, and I don't know if I've ever really recovered, to be honest. But the rest of the album is pretty great.
It helped to learn later that he was specifically reacting to the Peter Frampton song "I'm in You" which he thought was about the stupidest thing he'd ever heard, and he held it as an example of the depths to which pop music had sunk in the later 70's.
Yea, give Shiek a little time. I used to not care for it until I kept listening, and the albums starts off weird, but eventually rocks! and more classic Zappa tunes start appearing a few tracks in. City of Tiny Lights is one of his best songs.
City of Tiny Lights is one of his best songs.
Hello Boys & Girls,:caffeine:
About 10 Years Ago, shortly after Al Gore invented the internet, we here at UMRK, where we feel it is our duty … decided to announce plans for the Roxy Performances to be unleashed at last on a wholly suspecting public and others besides. What We Knew Then compared to What We Know Now about what is possible is something completely different. I could romanticize and say that over here at the Other Side of the Miracle of Time & Space there is nothing stopping us but the Movie Monster. Every Monster Movie has at least one. Our Movie Monster is THE BUDGET.
Because of the condition the condition was in - no synch, no idea what was what, no idea of the actual coverage, no idea of the quality; all the et ceterae that caused FZ to abandon the project completely - it took all this time (if you include all the other priorities and distractions) to get to this point, so near and yet so far: All of the footage has now been transferred on a best light basis into HD and all camera angles have been "synched" by eye and heart and hand and edit to the original Nagra tapes. We now need to identify all usable camera angles and begin the actual edit. Still, we have miles to go in order to bring the best of the possibilities to a screen near you. And we need your help.
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gz
I have a fairly awesome thing that recently happened to me that is Zappa-related.
It turns out my fiance and her parents were close friends with the members of Missing Persons in the 80's (Terry Bozzio, Dale Bozzio, Warren Cuccurollo). I had no idea. All of them, of course, Zappa regulars at one time. So, I'm a huge fan of Joe's Garage. As some may know, Dale Bozzio played Mary. So, I met her the other day. She was a great person...very nice and kind. She signed an autograph for me that says. "To Anthony, I'm Mary, from the bus". I didn't believe that she was Mary until she said "ya know, leather?" Then I told her how she was stuck to seat 38 etc. I was stoked. Anyway. That's my story.
Long live Zappa!
I'm on a Zappa kick again. Listening to One Size Fits All, finally. No clue what I was waiting for on this one.
I'm REALLY partial to 1, but that's only because it's the one I've heard the most.
One of the best live versions of The Torture Never Stops (better than the studio version IMO), The Groupie Routine :lol , Dumb All Over through Suicide Chump...
Yeah. :hat :)
Oh wow, I guess I have some old badly ripped version on my hard disc, I had to check my cd, but you're right.
But you should check that out, it's got all the Jimmy Swaggart puns in it, totally cool, and the actual song is played great.
Do you happen to know 'Australian Yellow Snow' too? That's off of 'One Shot Deal', totally different version, but very cool tool.
Between all the shows, and other official live albums, I heard Cosmik Debris from every lineup. Different each time of course, but I think I got overload on that song ::)
I'm gonna have to spin that. :lol
I gave Absolutely Free another shot. Liking it much more this time around. Brown Shoes Don't Make It is probably the best Zappa song I've heard pre-1973.
I WANNA MAKE HER DO A NASTY ON THE WHITE HOUSE LAWN
'..my fellow Americans..*cough cough*' He's been sick..."
As nice as it is that they're preserving his music, this just feels like another 'cash-in' to me.
So, I love St. Alphonzo's into Father O'Blivion... just two phenomenal pieces of music. The live versions all over youtube are stellar.
I'm a drummer and have always failed miserably when attempting to learn a FZ song. I thought it'd be a good challenge to play St. Alphonzo since it's so rhythmically driven. After a bunch of takes, this was my best. The stickings for some of the parts were really difficult for me (especially at the end). Does anybody know who's playing these songs on the album? It sounds like two drummers at times. There are 3 drummers listed as playing on Apostrophe, so I'm not sure who it is on St. Alph/Father O'B.
I'm thinking I want to challenge myself to really dissect and learn these parts perfectly and well enough to be able to improvise around a bit. Maybe I'll try all of Apostrophe('). It's just fun. Anyway, I hope y'alls enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExQNRYaPydg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExQNRYaPydg)
Don't be afraid, the video and sound quality aren't bad.
Cool cover! You gotta work on your timing on the 16th and 32th notes a bit though, especially since you want to do the entire album. But that's just a small thing!
Apostrophe is god damn amazing. Seriously, it could very well be a top 10 album of all time for me by now.
Humorous lyrics automatically degrades someone to Weird Al?Apostrophe is god damn amazing. Seriously, it could very well be a top 10 album of all time for me by now.
It's just insane. The drumming, the musicianship in general, and all of the Zappa-ism nuggets on that album are really wow. So many people these days just don't get his music. I sent a few songs to my buddy the other day and he says "hey, this guy was like the original Weird Al". While on some levels he's right, I hope he breaks through that level of perception and can really enjoy FZ's music.
Humorous lyrics automatically degrades someone to Weird Al?Apostrophe is god damn amazing. Seriously, it could very well be a top 10 album of all time for me by now.
It's just insane. The drumming, the musicianship in general, and all of the Zappa-ism nuggets on that album are really wow. So many people these days just don't get his music. I sent a few songs to my buddy the other day and he says "hey, this guy was like the original Weird Al". While on some levels he's right, I hope he breaks through that level of perception and can really enjoy FZ's music.
God damn...no wonder comedy rock bands have it rough.
I have a lot of respect for Weird Al. His songs aren't just funny songs sung to the same tune as the original; they're true parodies. He carefully copies the rhythm and rhyme structure, and keeps key words and lines for maximum comedic effect. Since about the third album, he's added the component of getting the music as close as possible as well, and again only deviated from that in calculated places. He also does one or two "style parodies" per album, where the song is clearly meant to sound like a particularly band or artist, but no specific song. These, in my opinion, require even greater skill than writing a good parody song.
If you've never heard Weird Al's tribute to Frank Zappa, you should. It's called "Genius in France". Find it and listen to it. At nearly ten minutes, it's the most complex and intricate of them all, as befitting its subject. Weird Al never comes right out and says who it's for (he never does), but it's pretty obvious to anyone who knows Frank's work, and it's just as obvious that it's done with the utmost respect for Frank, which is not necessarily true of most of Weird Al's targets.
Frank rarely directly lampooned anything, and when he did, it was open mockery. Other than the fact that both he and Weird Al wrote "funny songs" their styles and approaches are completely different. And of course Frank has the "serious composer" side to him that I don't think we've ever seen from Weird Al. Both of them are geniuses, though.
Great post! Although over here in Europe I always get the impression that Weird Al gets a lot less recognition.
Oh and last saturday I found the Piquantique album from (I believe) the first Beat The Boots series in a second hand cd's section. Great stuff, Stockholm 1973. Great setlist too: Kung Fu - Redunzl - Dupree's Paradise - T'Mershi Duween - Father O'Blivion.
Just felt like posting some more love for Absolutely Free. I never thought it was as great as Freak Out or We're Only in it For the Money, but now I've most certainly seen the error of my ways.
So, my Zappa odyssey hasn't made very many new acquisitions lately. I'm still pretty stuck on Joe's Garage and Sheik Yerbouti (in that I can't get into them), and Apostrophe is still a completely flawless piece of awesome. I've got One Size and Over-Nite Sensation too, but I can't tear myself away from Apostrophe long enough to give them a fair shake.
Dear People of Earth,:caffeine:
Here's what's thrilling:
1. It is Moon's Birthday today! And this morning I was lucky enough to have a cold breakfast with Moon and Mathilda - Ice Cream Cake and the sun wasn't even up yet. Yay!
2. I know I do not have to remind you that next December 2013 is the 40th Anniversary of the Roxy Performances. Now that we have thoroughly identified all it's parts and participles, we will deliver The Movie without further incident and maybe only a little ado. In theatres, DVD and Blue-ray, sometime before December, 2013.
3. MEANWHILE . . . before this December 2012, in anticipation of The ACTUAL Movie, we are pleased to inform you that we are scheduling the release of the PREQUEL to the actual Soundtrack. Yes. You will! Appreciate the raw unbridledness of the 75 minutes and 49 seconds of Roxy without the Elsewhere. Further details on The Movie and P.S. (Prequel Soundtrack) as soon as the duckies are all lined up.
4. Oh, and did I mention a new series is about to launch - Road Tapes - on Vaulternative Records! We've taken direct aim at Halloween!
5. Thank you.
xxx,
gz
Roxy & Elsewhere was one of the first Zappa/Mothers albums I ever heard, and is still my favorite. Pretty much the perfect combination of virtuoso playing, theatrics, humor, and social satire, plus Frank's spoken introductions.
40 years later? Really, Gail? I'll believe it when I see it.
And I hope there'll be a great alternative with the Roxy blu-ray!
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Also, I didn't realize his birthday was the "end of the world" :lol
So perfect :metal
Yeah well, I've tried...it's a work of a lifetime!
Yeah well, I've tried...it's a work of a lifetime!
So, where's the 'Roxy soundtrack' we were promised in december? :justjen
So, where's the 'Roxy soundtrack' we were promised in december? :justjen
Gail.
So, where's the 'Roxy soundtrack' we were promised in december? :justjen
Gail.
I want to get into Zappa and so far I've heard only Stinkfoot (the song) and I love it. What albums should I get? Probably Apostrophe, Hot Rats, One Size Fits All, but what else?
Don't forget Zoot Alures, Them or Us, You Are What You Is, Hot Rats, The Grand Wazoo.
Just for starters, that'll do. :P
I love how Sheik Yerbouti seems to jump right out at you. Or maybe he just jumps out at me. Sheik Yerbouti was my first Zappa album, and in some ways is still my favorite.
I agree with Hot Rats.Absolutely Free took a long time to click for me, but now it's easily one of my favorites. I'd say WOIIFTM just barely edges it out for my favorite from that early period though. Brown Shoes Don't Make It is utterly brilliant.
Well different strokes... right?
I can't get enough of Fillmore, Just Another Band, and Absolutely Free, but some folks don't like that stuff that much.
It is amazing how radically varied his music is. Going from Freak Out! to Roxy is practically two different worlds, and they're not even a decade apart.
I can't get enough of Fillmore, Just Another Band, and Absolutely Free, but some folks don't like that stuff that much.
Both are quite the same for me, great ways of seeing how Zappa went from phase one (which is a high school diploma stuffed with a gym sock) to phase two (which is a college degree stuffed with absolutely nothing at all)
You get nothing with your college degree. I'm sorry, I forgot.
Let me tell you something. Do you like monster movies? I LOVE monster movies.
I'm constantly amazed by how Zappa managed to get so many incredible musicians together into a huge band and not have it collapse over conflicting egos. That video was really fun to watch even though I'm not all that familiar with the song. The stage presence is just great.
I've been on a total Zappa high the last few days. I've tracked down some pretty nice bootlegs (A Snail in my Nose and Paralipolemi...) two good sounding early Flo & Eddie boots. Then I saw this on Zappa's facebook this morning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coG2EakB97g
:heart
I had not read that, though it does sound interesting. I had sort of assumed that every band was reasonably successful since I always see how great everything was with the '74 band, and from the research I've done I never noticed Frank to have any sort of feuds with band members or ex-band members.I'm constantly amazed by how Zappa managed to get so many incredible musicians together into a huge band and not have it collapse over conflicting egos. That video was really fun to watch even though I'm not all that familiar with the song. The stage presence is just great.
Well, then you've obviously not read about the '88 band and how it 'imploded' midtour due to jealousy, infighting and just plain inabillity to accept authority (any other than Frank's). You should look it up, it's pretty funny (and stupid). ;D
Finally got around to listening to Playground Psychotics for the first time yesterday. It was enjoyable, had that Mystery Disc/Lost Episodes vibe with all the field recordings. However, the version of Billy The Mountain on there seemed superior to the original JABFLA version.
Been going through the albums I still need, so what are your opinions on the recent albums from the last few years?
Philly '76
Hammersmith Odeon
Carnegie Hall
Feeding the Monkies At Ma Masion
Road Tapes Vol. 1
Finer Moments
I have Finer Moments, and it is quite enjoyable album. I don't have any of the others above, though I've listened to HO once over a year ago. I don't like that Carnegie Hall has a Persuasions set before FZ's two shows, and it's a more expensive album, so I haven't been trying to get it in any rush.
I'm looking to get Buffalo but also another from the list above. Which would be the best one to get first?
Finally got around to listening to Playground Psychotics for the first time yesterday. It was enjoyable, had that Mystery Disc/Lost Episodes vibe with all the field recordings. However, the version of Billy The Mountain on there seemed superior to the original JABFLA version.
Finally got around to listening to Playground Psychotics for the first time yesterday. It was enjoyable, had that Mystery Disc/Lost Episodes vibe with all the field recordings. However, the version of Billy The Mountain on there seemed superior to the original JABFLA version.
I absolutely LOVE Playground Psychotics - Flo and Eddie are in fine form throughout, and I agree that the PP version of Billy The Mountain could very well be superior to the JABFLA version.
Has anyone seen Project/Object (Ike Willis, Ray White, Tom Fowler, Ed Mann)? They're playing at a venue that's like 10 minutes away from me so I'm thinking about checking them out. Is it worth the $18?
Finally got around to listening to Playground Psychotics for the first time yesterday. It was enjoyable, had that Mystery Disc/Lost Episodes vibe with all the field recordings. However, the version of Billy The Mountain on there seemed superior to the original JABFLA version.
I absolutely LOVE Playground Psychotics - Flo and Eddie are in fine form throughout, and I agree that the PP version of Billy The Mountain could very well be superior to the JABFLA version.
Make that the three of us. I don't really listen to the LA version anymore. Just PP or Carnegie.
Has anyone seen Project/Object (Ike Willis, Ray White, Tom Fowler, Ed Mann)? They're playing at a venue that's like 10 minutes away from me so I'm thinking about checking them out. Is it worth the $18?
How is Carnegie Hall? I don't like how the opening band is featured on it.
How is Carnegie Hall? I don't like how the opening band is featured on it.
You don't? Well, I think it gives a nice complete view of the evening. And I love how such a close-harmony group was actually the opening act back then. And the Billy the Mountain version is nice. Not better than PP, but it is completer, with all the additional jams etc.
From what I understand it's the complete Roxy show without the "elsewhere" portions. So I imagine the tracklist would be this: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/frank-zappa/1973/the-roxy-west-hollywood-ca-bd025d2.html
Proxy probably just refers to people outside of ZFT have authority to distribute this.
So nothing we haven't heard already on Roxy or Helsinki, but I'm always up for a new recording of RDNZL!
I'm looking to get into some Zappa, but his discography is so vast and intimidating that I don't know where to start. Any suggestions?Apostrophe.
I like prog and jazz, but I don't like really silly music; I prefer more serious, structured songs, which I know aren't always Zappa's thing.
So.... Fucking... Excited for Roxy By Proxy. I could give two shits about the video, I want the MUSIC!!!I like prog and jazz, but I don't like really silly music; I prefer more serious, structured songs, which I know aren't always Zappa's thing.
Actually, they're usually his thing, but he liked to sometimes have the silly stuff on top of the serious structured songs.
Personally, based on your tastes, you need these 10 Zappa albums. Pick and choose:
Over-nite Sensation
Apostrophe (')
One Size Fits All
The Grand Wazoo
Waka/Jawaka
Hot Rats
Roxy & Elsewhere
Make A Jazz Noise Here
The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life
Lather
I'm looking to get into some Zappa, but his discography is so vast and intimidating that I don't know where to start. Any suggestions?
Philly ´76 isn´t bad either! :metal
Also, it's primarily "song-based" and the songs themselves are pretty accessible, especially by Zappa standards, so it's a good starting point.
Overnite Sensation is a great Zappa album but only Zombie Woof and Montana really showcase guitar playing. I'd recommend it highly to you mostly because I believe your sense of humor would really be tickled by Dina-Moe Humm and maybe Camarillo Brillo.I dunno about that, I'm The Slime has some really good guitar playing, even if it isn't long soloing. And don't forget Fifty-Fifty, which is one of my favorite Zappa solo sections.
Joe's Garage probably has my favorite guitar work from Frank but if you're not overly familiar with Frank and enjoy his satirical side then you'd probably find long stretches of WTF!?Watermelon In Easter Hay has my favorite guitar playing. Rest of the album is a bit of a let down for me though, except for Act I, which is pretty awesome. Would've liked more guitar playing and less story.
And don't forget Fifty-Fifty, which is one of my favorite Zappa solo sections.:facepalm: I hate going by memory from work! I completely forgot about Fifty-Fifty.
Also, it's primarily "song-based" and the songs themselves are pretty accessible, especially by Zappa standards, so it's a good starting point.
Hey -- you saw the bit about George Duke's passing, didn't you? A real loss. :(
https://barfkoswill.shop.musictoday.com/Dept.aspx?cp=971_62209 (https://barfkoswill.shop.musictoday.com/Dept.aspx?cp=971_62209)
Roxy By Proxy coming September 20th. Looks like it's the real deal this time.
Just bought Hot Rats at a local record store ;D
:soon::rollin
Has anyone else heard The Yellow Shark? This has to be the hidden gem of Zappa's career. It's one of the best sounding orchestral recordings I've ever heard, and the renditions of Dog Breath, Uncle Meat, Be-Bop Tango, Pound For A Brown, and G-Spot Tornado are delightful.I have it, one of the better classical Zappas. It's really nice that Zappa got see a classical performance of his work that he could be satisfied with during his lifetime and the song list is really killer. The liner notes are also really great, very thorough and gives a good look at what the preparation was like.
Seeing ZPZ tomorrow playing Roxy. Someone hold me.I'm finally seeing ZPZ next month. Can't wait!!
Got a downright sexy Apostrophe shirt too. :hat
Based on recommendations, I've only listened to Hot Rats so far, which is amazing. It might be one of my favorite albums ever. His discography is so massive that I'm not sure where to check next though, so I've held off on it for a while.
Based on recommendations, I've only listened to Hot Rats so far, which is amazing. It might be one of my favorite albums ever. His discography is so massive that I'm not sure where to check next though, so I've held off on it for a while.
Try Waka/Jawaka, or The Grand Wazoo. If you want to check something more poppy, go for Apostrophe, or Roxy and Elsewhere. You can't go wrong with either of those two.
Best version ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC_wcFDpLmw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC_wcFDpLmw)
Just put back Sheik Yerbouti back on the shelf. Loved it so much I had to listen to Yo' Mama twice.
Somehow I don't think The Who's By Numbers is going to quite measure up, but you never know.
Cool! Let me know what you think. I totally didn't get into Zappa because of his jazzy side, so I'd be interested to hear what you think of those albums from your point of view.
I bought Absolutely Free last week, and I'm preparing myself (hopefully) for an upcoming album discussion.
After I digest this, I'm hoping to pick up Lumpy Gravy. I won't be able to get EVERY album for any potential discussion (for obvious reasons) but I love what I'm hearing so far. :tup
All I know is they have all the ones I have (44 now I think) and a LOT that I don't.Are you in the USA? I don't know about other countries but US spotify only has everything that was part of the recent remaster campaign. So a LOT of the posthumous albums are missing.
I'm in the USA, yeah. I wasn't sure of the general consensus about the posthumous albums. I've always ignored them (mostly because I already have plenty of Zappa to digest). Are they actually good?All I know is they have all the ones I have (44 now I think) and a LOT that I don't.Are you in the USA? I don't know about other countries but US spotify only has everything that was part of the recent remaster campaign. So a LOT of the posthumous albums are missing.
Oh man, I totally forgot yesterday was Frank's death-day (and I had no internets to remind me) but I was listening to the Mothers all day! Weird.
:heart
I think I'm almost ready to get my Zappa tramp stamp.
Left side of the mustache: "Why if she were my daughter I'd....." Right side of the mustache: "What would you do, daddy?"Jesus. :lol
Too far?
:angel:
I've never been a fan of Torture Never Stops, especially on that album.
Black Napkins is great, as is the title track and Find Her Finer. Everything else is a bit forgettable. And on top of that, like I mentioned with One Size Fits All, the best tracks here have far superior live versions that make the studio ones obsolete.
In other news: I've been reading Freak Out! - My life with Frank Zappa, by Pauline Butcher. It's a good book about Zappa, she's describing him as a god, in everything he does. She was a British secretary, not a musician or music lover at all, who eventually moved in with Frank and Gail. It's fun to read some of the more personal stuff, mostly about people showing up at his house. (Eric Clapton drops by, states his name, and she says 'oh great, and what do you play?') Some cool anekdotes, and a very light read.
'Live in USA' (recorded in 63, 67 and 68)
Does this mean an album discussion thread is in the works? And yes...I understand that this would be a two year undertaking. :rollinIt's totally in the works. I'm trying to work ahead, I've written a preamble and the first two albums (sorta), so there's only 97 albums left. :D
That's awesome :metal
My collection is growing but still just a small fraction of that.
Hey, do you have Civilization Phaze III? I just recently read about it so I ordered it but have not had time to listen yet.
Yeah, a lot of the stuff that's being put out now is so expensive, but one of the local stores here has an awesome collection and a lot of the used stuff is cheap and in fine condition. They also have a lot of vinyl, but many of those are very pricey.
As for Civilization Phaze III, I do not believe it's still in print. I got mine for $30 on Amazon and what's left on there now is more expensive (from $38 used up to $157 new!). I can take a pic if you want, though, and will definitely let you know what I think! Maybe I should listen to Lumpy Gravy again first, cause it's been a while.
Hell, I've only got 43 albums (only digital, sadly), and it's still a daunting amount of music. I've started listening to them all while wasting my life on Candy Crush Saga. It at least makes me feel like I'm accomplishing something. I just listened to Uncle Meat all the way through for the first time and it was quite good. I was always scared off by it being 2 hours but there's a lot of great stuff on it.
The only lyric I had different is.
"A curious breeze of garlic breath..."
I may be wrong.
:lol
Orbert, if I remember correctly the keyboardist (Chris something) sang "I'm So Cute." That guy can get quite high!
That sounds like a kick-ass show, Jackie! There is another Zappa tribute band out there comprised of some ex-bandmembers. (I think Ike Willis is in there) called Banned From Utupia.
They're touring quite a bit as well.
Hey, what's new in Baltimore?
Can someone recommend some more Zappa songs like Blue Napkins?
I'm absolutely in love with blue napkins :heart
Can someone recommend some more Zappa songs like Blue Napkins?
I'm absolutely in love with blue napkins :heart
Not to be a dick, but don't you mean Black Napkins?
If these final releases were priced high, but were high quality and clearly meant to honor the Zappa legacy, I'd be cool with that. If they'd skimped a bit on the packaging, but the price was that of a comparable regular release, I guess that would be okay, too. It's what's inside that counts, after all.
But this combination of cheepnis with the packaging (including typos and other shit) and higher-than-normal pricing is ridiculous and nothing less than a black mark on Frank's work. I'm sure Frank himself doesn't care either way, but damn, you'd think his family would at least proofread what they're putting out there. What the fuck, Gail?
Can someone recommend some more Zappa songs like Blue Napkins?
I'm absolutely in love with blue napkins :heart
Not to be a dick, but don't you mean Black Napkins?
Maybe he meant Pink Napkins.
I've been running into Facebook posts that say Gail Zappa died today...yet I can't find any official news. Can anyone confirm this?https://www.zappa.com/
RIP Gail. I read that she went peacefully at home, so hooray for hospice!
Here's a dumb little story I can only tell in this thread: I have been talking to a guy on OkCupid for a while whose initial message mentioned the fact that I had Zappa listed in my profile. We finally met last night after at least a month of on/off talking. I didn't think about this when I set the location, but the coffee shop we met at is near a shopping center that has some "art" walls with quotes on them. One of the quotes (which takes up three little walls) is from "Call Any Vegetable." So after we had coffee I told him I had a surprise and took him to the wall. He was like :eek :D :dangerwillrobinson: and I scored major points, obviously.
After that we walked around a bit and eventually started making out outside of a library. At one of the breaks in our makeout session I said to him, in my best Sy Borg voice, "You are a funn person" followed by "I like you. I want to kiss you always."
I am a total dork, and it totally paid off. We have another date Monday :D
:lol
He should have said, "You'll love it. It's a way of life."
Roxy the Movie is out!!
Anybody watch it yet? I picked it up today but probably won't be able to watch it until tomorrow. Crazy that they've released it finally!
Packaging is pretty cool. Some liner notes by the film editor explaining why it took so long and of course a word from GZ. Comes with a soundtrack, although I'm not sure if any of the material on it is different from the original Roxy and Roxy By Proxy albums. Might be different recordings of the same songs (he recorded 4 nights) but I haven't checked yet.
I think Dance Me This precedes it. It's hard to say though because he mentioned both in interviews at the same time.
On the CD, Roxy soundtrack is listed as 101.2 or something like that. I don't have the disc on hand (been playing it constantly in the car!). Very strange. There's a rumor that we're going to get yet another Roxy release with all 4 shows or something like that.
200 Motels: The Suites is going to be the 2013 Disney Hall performance.
I think Dance Me This precedes it. It's hard to say though because he mentioned both in interviews at the same time.
On the CD, Roxy soundtrack is listed as 101.2 or something like that. I don't have the disc on hand (been playing it constantly in the car!). Very strange. There's a rumor that we're going to get yet another Roxy release with all 4 shows or something like that.
200 Motels: The Suites is going to be the 2013 Disney Hall performance.
OK. My guess was that he finished DMT in 1993, and the story surrounding CPIII was that he worked on it until he couldn't anymore, that it was the very last thing that he worked on, and with it also being a big project, was chosen to be released first, and then for whatever reason, the ZFT took 21 years to release DMT, apparently due to hard drive issues.
Where did you buy the Roxy Movie? I'm assuming your talking about the CD that comes with the movie, not Roxy By Proxy (which I believe is #99, I haven't bought it yet.)
Yes, it's weird that something recorded after 1993 is going to be considered an official release, though 200 Motels has not gotten a reissue like the rest of Zappa's first 62 albums, and the sound on the original album is one of Frank's worst, so maybe this is the best they can do since they don't have the rights to the album.
Great post, Orbert. The dvd is indeed awesome. And why am I always surprised that musicians I don't expect it of, like Ralph Humprheys are such bad asses? I knew Chester Thompson was a great drummer, but I had no idea HHymprey was doing a lot of the heavy lifting! And Tom Fowler with that bad ass cigar! Watching the band is a fantastic experience, you can clearly see Frank enjoying the quality of the musicianship here. :hefdaddy
I think the Roxy movie discussion sparked in the discography thread.
BTW, the 200 Motels orchestral version (release 101) is up on youtube. And although I'm still convinced that releasing something as an original release just because Zappa wrote the notes is wrong, it's a pretty cool document.I agree, but given the cirumstances I think it's ok to give this release a pass, as long as releasing official albums made after Frank's death doesn't become a regular thing.
BTW, the 200 Motels orchestral version (release 101) is up on youtube. And although I'm still convinced that releasing something as an original release just because Zappa wrote the notes is wrong, it's a pretty cool document.I agree, but given the cirumstances I think it's ok to give this release a pass, as long as releasing official albums made after Frank's death doesn't become a regular thing.
.BTW, the 200 Motels orchestral version (release 101) is up on youtube. And although I'm still convinced that releasing something as an original release just because Zappa wrote the notes is wrong, it's a pretty cool document.I agree, but given the cirumstances I think it's ok to give this release a pass, as long as releasing official albums made after Frank's death doesn't become a regular thing.
Yeah, that's true. We'll see what the next couple of things will be.
Great news about The Roxy Movie.
Yet another release has been announced already!!!
Official Release #101 has been announced for December - "200 Motels: The Suites"
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https://www.amazon.de/dp/B016Z4697C
Not sure why The Roxy Movie (which contains a CD) is not #101, and 200 Motels: The Suites is #102, but lots of things don't make sense in the chronological sense of Zappa's canon. Then again, the DVD/Blu-ray releases are never counted, only when it's a separate CD-only release, like Roxy By Proxy, Token of His Extreme and Dub-Room Special, etc...
I was driving home last night, and some song came on the radio that I'd never heard before. Sounded kinda like Stevie Ray Vaughn, but I wasn't sure. My car stereo has a text display that can show up to 13 characters, and it says
WILLIE THE WI
and the first thing I think of is "WILLIE THE WIMP" because it rhymes with "WILLIE THE PIMP" from Hot Rats. I chuckle to myself. I'm so clever. Obviously that's not the name of the song, because that would be a stupid name. It was just kinda funny to think that someone would write a song called "WILLIE THE WIMP".
If the name of the song is longer than 13 characters, it scrolls after a few seconds. An "M" appears, then a "P", then spaces until it's all gone. Then it repeats. Seriously? The song is "Willie the Wimp"?
It was. The song is a tribute to Willie Stokes, a Chicago mobster, alias "Willie the Wimp" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Stokes).
The track I heard is from Stevie Ray Vaughn's album Live Alive (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_Alive).
So I was right about it being SRV, and right about the song title, even though it was a guess and I was sure it couldn't possibly be right. So either Frank had heard of Willie the Wimp and decided to write a song called "Willie the Pimp", or possibly it's just a coincidence. Willie Stokes was born in 1937 and died in 1986, so he had the nickname before the song, but the song may have been inspired by the guy.
The world may never know.
That's kind of funny. I'm sure it was intentional knowing him.Wow. I wanted to go to that but had work, now I'm glad I didn't.
I forgot to tell you guys I got to see Dweezil and his band open for Umphrey's at Red Rocks recently and it was amazing. Unfortunately, due to all of this stupid bullshit fighting in the family (they didn't outright say this, but it's the only explanation) they spent about 1/4 of their set playing other bands' music. A 20-minute medley covering everything from Rush to Duran Duran to really any 70s or 80s classic you can think of. For five minutes it was cool. When we reached the 10-minute mark I was like "Okay that was cute. Now where's the rest of the Zappa music?" At 15 my friend and I were like "WTF?!" and then after about 20 it ended. They are such an incredible and tight band and they did it very well. But if this is a thing they are now going to have to do at every show to avoid a fight with Ahmet, I won't be quite as eager to see them anymore. Bummer and very lame.
BUT the rest of the set was pretty badass, at least. Their rendition of Keep it Greasey totally killed me. Such a blast dancing around to that.
Wow. I wanted to go to that but had work, now I'm glad I didn't.
Wow, I haven't heard anything about this. This was Zappa Plays Zappa? But Ahmet's being a dick about something?
Wow, I haven't heard anything about this. This was Zappa Plays Zappa? But Ahmet's being a dick about something?
I don't know where to find another link about it but this video Dweezil posted on his FB explains it a little.
https://www.facebook.com/DweezilZappaOfficial/videos/1275814179102895/
Currently trying to find out who the brunette is, the one who plays sax and keyboards and sings. She's hot. Kinda reminds me of Minnie Driver when she was hot.
Edit: Oh, that's Scheila! Cool.
Yes, but I'm having a hard time figuring out when/where it is showing. I know it's in Denver and maybe the Mayan? Do you know when the showings are?
https://www.dweezilzappaworld.com/posts/1982286-response-to-my-brother-s-open-letter (https://www.dweezilzappaworld.com/posts/1982286-response-to-my-brother-s-open-letter)
I'm sure this has been brought up at some point in this thread, or maybe it hasn't. What is everyone's favorite Zappa albums?Two from each decade:
Sweet, let us know how it is!Good stuff. I was expecting a lot of it to be stuff I've already seen before but they surprised me with some new interview/concert footage. Was a very "surface level" view of Frank but still very enjoyable.
Sweet, let us know how it is!Good stuff. I was expecting a lot of it to be stuff I've already seen before but they surprised me with some new interview/concert footage. Was a very "surface level" view of Frank but still very enjoyable.
One size fits all, We're only in it for the money, You are what you is.
I'm sure this has been brought up at some point in this thread, or maybe it hasn't. What is everyone's favorite Zappa albums?Two from each decade:
Hot Rats, We're Only In It For the Money
Zappa In New York, Sheik Yer Bouti
YCDTOSA 2: The Helsinki Tapes (recorded in the 70s but released 1988), Tinseltown Rebellion
The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life, Make A Jazz Noise Here
I'm sure this has been brought up at some point in this thread, or maybe it hasn't. What is everyone's favorite Zappa albums?
I'd heard One Size Fits All years before, but that was in junior high and I had no money. Sheik Yerbouti came out when I when in high school and had a job, so it was the first Zappa I actually owned. He had a minor radio hit with "Dancing Fool" (a song about a guy who can't dance?! :lol) and "sheek yerbouti" seemed to be a pun which fit the dancing theme.
Years later, I was watching some news thing about Arab oil and they were talking about the sheiks who were all multi-zillionaires, and they kept pronouncing it "shake". Then it hit me: "shake yerbouti". :omg:
Also, to this day the guitar solo in "Yo Mama" is still my favorite.
Sweet, let us know how it is!Good stuff. I was expecting a lot of it to be stuff I've already seen before but they surprised me with some new interview/concert footage. Was a very "surface level" view of Frank but still very enjoyable.
What, you didn't know that Frank "discovered" Alice Cooper? True story.
The documentary Eat That Question: Frank Zappa in His Own Words (2016) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5275830/) is making the rounds on Starz or one of those other second-tier premium channels, and I recorded it and checked it out. Very nicely done.
It's literally just a collection of interviews and archival performances, but they're arranged and sequenced in such a way as to give you an excellent view into Frank's mind. Frank's gone, of course, but rather than having a bunch of people giving their views on Frank or "reminiscing" or whatever, it's all him, and I'd never seen most of it before. Basically chronological, there's a lot of black-and-white footage in the older stuff, and the newer stuff is color and generally better quality, but none of it is really horrible, and all of it is worthwhile.
Five barking pumpkins out of Five. Would watch again (and probably will). :tup
So NIhil, Any chance of reviving that Discography-thread? :biggrin:
So NIhil, Any chance of reviving that Discography-thread? :biggrin:
The documentary Eat That Question: Frank Zappa in His Own Words (2016) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5275830/) is making the rounds on Starz or one of those other second-tier premium channels, and I recorded it and checked it out. Very nicely done.
It's literally just a collection of interviews and archival performances, but they're arranged and sequenced in such a way as to give you an excellent view into Frank's mind. Frank's gone, of course, but rather than having a bunch of people giving their views on Frank or "reminiscing" or whatever, it's all him, and I'd never seen most of it before. Basically chronological, there's a lot of black-and-white footage in the older stuff, and the newer stuff is color and generally better quality, but none of it is really horrible, and all of it is worthwhile.
Five barking pumpkins out of Five. Would watch again (and probably will). :tup
REMEMBÀ ZAPPA! :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddyFrank left us 26 years ago today.
(https://i.imgur.com/H8mlto2.jpg)
Frank Vincent Zappa
December 21, 1940 – December 4, 1993
I wish the album discussion thread would come back. :-[we can make it happen. Where would you want me to start? (I'll preface this by saying that I don't own every album by him, not even all those who were released during his lifetime)
Hot Rats. I'll be seeing Dweezil play it next month and don't know anything about it.I wish the album discussion thread would come back. :-[we can make it happen. Where would you want me to start? (I'll preface this by saying that I don't own every album by him, not even all those who were released during his lifetime)
ah right ok. I like it quite a bit. It features lots of things to love about Frank (musical sophistication, acerbic and satirical lyrics, Cpt. Beefheart features on it too, even a homage to Carlos Santana) and I guess it's the first one which featured his compostional technique called xenochrony (it's kind of an overdub with rhythms, google it, it's fun), Jean Luc Ponty features on violin as well. (as does Ruth Underwood on percussion along with Frank himself, we will see her on quite a few more albums)Hot Rats. I'll be seeing Dweezil play it next month and don't know anything about it.I wish the album discussion thread would come back. :-[we can make it happen. Where would you want me to start? (I'll preface this by saying that I don't own every album by him, not even all those who were released during his lifetime)
If nothing else, NM's reviews have been a big help to me as I've been going through and slowly buying the discography. As it is, I have picked up albums 1-14 (Freak Out - Just Another Band from LA) and I already own a few others.yes, go ahead, it's a great film IMHO (and a very worthy companion to Roxy And Elsewhere as well). I love it.
I took a detour from buying them in chronological order and bought Lumpy Money and The Roxy Movie on a whim (I've listened to the music several times, but still haven't watched the movie. Maybe I'll do that today). But then I've taken a break since then. I love nearly every note. Some albums are a bit spotty, but every album has something I love on it.
I'll admit I'm slacking in my exploration of his work, but there's so much of it that it can be tough.discovering Frankie is a great ride (and thoroughly enjoyable, at least for me), have fun exploring. I love Studio Tan entirely btw
But this morning I listened to Studio Tan for the first time. Boy, what an experience. To this day there's really nothing like this.
Adventures of Gregory Peccary is fun, quirky and well made, but not my cup of tea. I theroughly enjoyed Revised music for Guitar and RDNZL though.
So many more albums to go :lol
I'll admit I'm slacking in my exploration of his work, but there's so much of it that it can be tough.discovering Frankie is a great ride (and thoroughly enjoyable, at least for me), have fun exploring. I love Studio Tan entirely btw
But this morning I listened to Studio Tan for the first time. Boy, what an experience. To this day there's really nothing like this.
Adventures of Gregory Peccary is fun, quirky and well made, but not my cup of tea. I theroughly enjoyed Revised music for Guitar and RDNZL though.
So many more albums to go :lol
Studio Tan is awesome. Frank is bitchin'. Music is the best.Like OMG. Totally. (says his daughter, and us as well)