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Title: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: sirbradford117 on December 10, 2009, 10:24:35 PM
I know this band doesn't get much love around here.  Here's the place to discuss why and/or to add appreciation.

I've spent my evening listening to the band's early albums and singles.  They were one hell of an R&B outfit!  Even today, they play the blues as easily and naturally as anyone (well, at least among white folks from Britain...).

Plus, one can't help but admire the solid body of work that is Beggar's Banquet, Let it Bleed, Sticky Fingers and Exile on Main Street.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: Zydar on December 11, 2009, 12:18:48 AM
I'm a big Stones fan. And that string of albums you mentioned (1968-1972) are just brilliant stuff. They are a part of my holy 60s trinity together with the Beatles and the Who.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: Phantasmatron on December 11, 2009, 12:44:43 AM
The only one I have is Aftermath.  I consider "Angie" to be one of the greatest break-up songs of all time.  And "Out of Time" is fantastic.

And then they have some classic-rock-radio-hits that I like, too.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: rumborak on December 11, 2009, 01:36:20 AM
That band always boggled my mind as to their popularity. I'm listening to it and can not see in the slightest the excitement a lot of people have for this band.

rumborak
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: ZBomber on December 11, 2009, 01:43:48 AM
Plus, one can't help but admire the solid body of work that is Beggar's Banquet, Let it Bleed, Sticky Fingers and Exile on Main Street.

This is really the only thing I listen to from the Stones anymore. I like GHS and IORR too, but the rest is really hit or miss.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2009, 03:05:54 AM
Considering The Rolling Stones are all ancient, they're pretty energetic on stage, and I gotta hand it to them for their longevity.
As for the music, I've never been a fan. Mick Jagger can't carry a tune, and they're a bit too sloppy for my liking.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: Cool Chris on December 11, 2009, 08:01:51 AM
I used to be a big fan when I was more in to classic rock. Now I barely listen to them, but will play them on occasion. I definitely think of them more as a 'singles' band than an 'album' band, as their ratio of great songs to crap is pretty low. But I made what I think is a pretty solid 2CD compilation of their material, which I'd match up against any compilation from any classic rock band.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: LudwigVan on December 11, 2009, 08:18:24 AM
I consider "Angie" to be one of the greatest break-up songs of all time. 

Agreed, one of the few songs that could make me cry.

Mick Jagger can't carry a tune, and they're a bit too sloppy for my liking.

I think the "sloppiness" has always been a part of their charm.  The Stones seemed to make a calculated effort to play their chords and drumbeats in the most loosey-goosey possible way.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: El Barto on December 11, 2009, 10:04:12 AM
I never thought any of them were particularly talented (in a relative sense).  However, they've written 2 perfect songs, and come real close to a third.    Plus a string of very entertaining singles.  This boggles the mind.  It'd be like AC/DC suddenly writing A Change of Seasons for the last song on For Those About to Rock. 
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: Marvellous G on December 11, 2009, 10:11:12 AM
Gimme Shelter is the coolest song of all time.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on March 03, 2010, 05:00:18 AM
So, I've tried the Forty Licks soundtrack, and while I like a lot of what I'm hearing, there's just far too much there.

Could one of you folks who is familiar with their stuff look at the track listing and take the 20 best/most essential/whatever tracks out? It doesn't matter if it goes past 80 minutes, I just want the must hear, or the 'must hear'er half of the Best Of.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: Zydar on March 03, 2010, 05:39:41 AM
Alright, I took 10 songs from each CD of the 40 Licks compilation which I consider to be their most essential tracks.

01. Gimme Shelter
02. Satisfaction
03. Jumpin' Jack Flash
04. Sympathy for The Devil
05. She's a Rainbow
06. Wild Horses
07. Ruby Tuesday
08. Paint it Black
09. Honky Tonk Women
10. Let's Spend The Night Together
11. Start Me Up
12. Brown Sugar
13. Miss You
14. Beast of Burden
15. Happy
16. Angie
17. Mixed Emotions
18. Anybody Seen My Baby
19. Tumbling Dice
20. It's Only Rock 'n' Roll
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: sirbradford117 on March 03, 2010, 06:59:58 AM
That's a pretty good summary of their career.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on March 03, 2010, 07:05:20 AM
Sweet, cheers. Now I'll probably start with that list and give the others some time once I'm familiar with these.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: ShadowWalker on March 03, 2010, 07:12:11 AM
Anybody enjoying the deluxe Get Yer Ya-Yas Out! re-release? I think they should have combined discs one and two and integrated everything in the proper running order. Havnig the opening sets was an interesting bonus as well. Too bad a video of the whole concert was not available...
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: El Barto on July 27, 2011, 12:36:27 PM
I watched Cocksucker Blues (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocksucker_blues) last night.  Anybody else seen it?

Not a great film, but there's some pretty good insight in it.  It's hard for me to fathom that sex, drugs and rock and roll could somehow become commonplace to the point of tedium.  Often times it was quite pathetic. 
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: Zook on July 27, 2011, 12:55:12 PM
More like Rolling Bones. aha aha aha

I like Paint It Black.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: Accelerando on July 27, 2011, 12:55:46 PM
Gimme Shelter is the coolest song of all time.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: stryker on July 27, 2011, 02:02:51 PM
I've always liked the stones!  I don't have any extensive catalog or anything.  I have the 40 Licks cd's and Get Yer Ya Ya's Out.  A buddy of mine got me into that live version of Sympathy For The Devil where Mick Taylor and Keith Richards dual solo's.  Amazing stuff!
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: sirbradford117 on July 27, 2011, 03:46:48 PM
I watched Cocksucker Blues (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocksucker_blues) last night.  Anybody else seen it?

Not a great film, but there's some pretty good insight in it.  It's hard for me to fathom that sex, drugs and rock and roll could somehow become commonplace to the point of tedium.  Often times it was quite pathetic. 

Sex, drugs, and rockandroll indeed.  Yeah, it's not the greatest film... but it sure proves a lot!
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: ZBomber on July 27, 2011, 06:52:38 PM
Cocksucker Blues is great! Really raw footage of the drug craziness happening in the 70s.

And if I recall correctly, the picture of Keith in front of the Drug Free America sign comes from that movie, which is awesome.  :lol
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: Ħ on July 27, 2011, 07:15:43 PM
All I know is Satisfaction, which is in my top 10 most annoying songs of all time.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: MinistroRaven on September 04, 2023, 03:26:24 PM
After an 18-year wait, The RS reveal the title of their new album:
https://lotsofmuzik.com/the-rolling-stones-announce-first-studio-album-in-18-years-hackney-diamonds/
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: MinistroRaven on September 06, 2023, 02:35:36 PM
New single:

https://lotsofmuzik.com/the-rolling-stones-reveal-new-single-angry-and-album-hackney-diamonds-release-date/

 :metal

These guy's are absolutely the best thing that ever happened to music. The fact they are still writing and recording is so amazing. Thank you so much guys the world wouldn't be the same with out you.

Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: jammindude on September 06, 2023, 03:57:02 PM
Now I can finally say that I know *one* Rolling Stones fan.  :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: MinistroRaven on September 06, 2023, 04:40:11 PM
You don't like them?
I think my dad introduced me to them ages ago, and it was so fun to watch Mike movements were hilarious to me.
Growing up I got to like them more and more, and the drummer was a beast on his own.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: EPICVIEW on September 06, 2023, 04:50:00 PM
seen them many times since 1979,,,   I like the new tune   its fun enough and it sounds like the Stones. 
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: jammindude on September 06, 2023, 05:58:51 PM
You don't like them?
I think my dad introduced me to them ages ago, and it was so fun to watch Mike movements were hilarious to me.
Growing up I got to like them more and more, and the drummer was a beast on his own.

I love the early stuff before Brian died. But I just feel like it gets so spotty after that.  I pretty much view them is an over rated bar band. The only reason they’re considered legends is because of their longevity, which I will tip my cap to.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: TAC on September 06, 2023, 06:56:26 PM
  I pretty much view them is an over rated bar band. The only reason they’re considered legends is because of their longevity, which I will tip my cap to.

Interesting comments coming from such a big AC/DC fan.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: jammindude on September 06, 2023, 07:39:48 PM
  I pretty much view them is an over rated bar band. The only reason they’re considered legends is because of their longevity, which I will tip my cap to.

Interesting comments coming from such a big AC/DC fan.

Maybe because I consider AC/DC to be far more relevant than The Rolling Stones. 

:flame:
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: NoFred on September 06, 2023, 07:42:35 PM
Not one of my bands, though saw them twice on Bridges to Babylon tour (and the they’re old/washed jokes were already going strong then) They’re absolutely legends of their time, not of longevity. They were the first peak of sex drugs n rock… I mean 70s Bianca :smiley: come on

I guess if anything they’re the epitome of having some great music, and then keep putting on a great show. Thinking of Jimmy Buffet this week and what does it mean to have entertaining music but nothing necessarily new or groundbreaking? Just keep on entertaining
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: King Postwhore on September 06, 2023, 07:47:30 PM
  I pretty much view them is an over rated bar band. The only reason they’re considered legends is because of their longevity, which I will tip my cap to.

Interesting comments coming from such a big AC/DC fan.

Maybe because I consider AC/DC to be far more relevant than The Rolling Stones. 

:flame:

That would be a mistake    The Stones from 71 to 73 may be up there, for the best 3 album run ever.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: jammindude on September 06, 2023, 07:52:46 PM
For the record, according to Wikipedia, verified units have AC/DC being higher on the top selling artists of all time than the Stones.

And I would take High Voltage thru For Those About to Rock over any Stones run.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: King Postwhore on September 06, 2023, 08:01:14 PM
Seems even to me by Googling.  When I'm partying,  give me AC/DC.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: TAC on September 06, 2023, 08:03:00 PM
Well, I'd take AC/DC over the Stones any day of the week, but my point is still valid.

I've been right all day long. Ain't gonna stop now! ;D
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: King Postwhore on September 06, 2023, 08:11:04 PM
I like both.  But I'm picky making playlists with them.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: TAC on September 06, 2023, 08:14:49 PM
I like both.  But I'm picky making playlists with them.

Same.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: jammindude on September 06, 2023, 09:14:00 PM
Some of this is said in good fun.

As I hinted at before, I think their Brian Jones period is second only to the Beatles as far as relevance goes (I would put Pink Floyd and The Moodies slightly above the Stones for personal tastes of that period).   The Hot Rocks double album is a must, but I don’t know if there’s much need to go beyond that.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: Cool Chris on September 06, 2023, 10:33:50 PM
Hot Rocks got as much play on my first CD player as any CDs I owned for years. I don't believe I ever owned a Stones studio album. I doubt I could even name all their albums or which songs are on what album.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: El Barto on September 06, 2023, 11:17:42 PM
New single:

https://lotsofmuzik.com/the-rolling-stones-reveal-new-single-angry-and-album-hackney-diamonds-release-date/

 :metal

These guy's are absolutely the best thing that ever happened to music. The fact they are still writing and recording is so amazing. Thank you so much guys the world wouldn't be the same with out you.



That was a great video (and not just because of the girl). It was a good idea and very well done. Nothing remarkable about the song, though. Sounds like the Stones.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: MinistroRaven on September 07, 2023, 07:18:46 AM
New single:

https://lotsofmuzik.com/the-rolling-stones-reveal-new-single-angry-and-album-hackney-diamonds-release-date/

 :metal

These guy's are absolutely the best thing that ever happened to music. The fact they are still writing and recording is so amazing. Thank you so much guys the world wouldn't be the same with out you.



That was a great video (and not just because of the girl). It was a good idea and very well done. Nothing remarkable about the song, though. Sounds like the Stones.

I'm impressed by how seamlessly the images of the band blend into the billboard. It looks so natural, like something out of Harry Potter, but even better.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: Stadler on September 07, 2023, 07:48:45 AM
You don't like them?
I think my dad introduced me to them ages ago, and it was so fun to watch Mike movements were hilarious to me.
Growing up I got to like them more and more, and the drummer was a beast on his own.

I love the early stuff before Brian died. But I just feel like it gets so spotty after that.  I pretty much view them is an over rated bar band. The only reason they’re considered legends is because of their longevity, which I will tip my cap to.

Respect, but this isn't accurate at all.    It really isn't.   The Stones were peers of the fucking Beatles for gosh sakes.  Lesser peers, I give you, but peers nonetheless.  They were a very prominent counter to the Beatles, and had as much a presence in the London music scene from that '65 to '69-'70 era as any band.   Their run from Beggar's Banquet through Exile On Main St. is as seminal to that period of rock and roll as any four albums not named "Revolver through Abbey Road".   

Charlie Watts is considered one of the greatest rock drummers of all time.  He gets beaten up more than Jimmy Page for being sloppy, but Keith Richards has created some of the most memorable riffs of all time; you hear "Satisfaction" or "Honky Tonk Women" and you know EXACTLY who it is, immediately.   Mick Jagger is over whelmed by the cliches (the lips, whatever) but he's an ICONIC front man, and you have an almost entire genre of music inspired by him (I'm thinking of bands like The Killers, The Strokes... even Harry Styles has paid significant homage to Jagger).  He's also one of the very few guy - along with, funny enough, McCartney - who has had few if any vocal problems over the years.

I'm a huge Stones fan, all eras.  I think they are far more than just "longevity".  I think their early years are a prime example of the incorporation of blues (including American blues) into British rock.   I think the early mid-period is a prime example of the way music interfaced with culture.   Altamont; the Redlands arrests, the tax exile in the early '70s.   The late '70s, early '80s was a study in how to navigate roots while still maintaining relevancy.   And frankly, I think the latter period is about as vital as any other act still operating into their fifth or sixth decades (I wonder if he was being honest, if Bono wouldn't be jealous of that work when compared to the last two or three U2 albums).

Too much of the Stones is caricature, IMO.   Jagger, the preening, egomaniacal front man (when in reality, he is an incredibly smart, incredibly astute businessman who has shepherded the Stones since the mid-70s as manager, and according to Charlie Watts "Mick Jagger is the least egotistical person; he'll do what's right for the band."  He certainly put aside any feud with Richards in order to keep the Stones as a functioning entity.
Title: Re: Rolling Stones discussion thread
Post by: Stadler on September 07, 2023, 07:54:58 AM
New single:

https://lotsofmuzik.com/the-rolling-stones-reveal-new-single-angry-and-album-hackney-diamonds-release-date/

 :metal

These guy's are absolutely the best thing that ever happened to music. The fact they are still writing and recording is so amazing. Thank you so much guys the world wouldn't be the same with out you.



That was a great video (and not just because of the girl). It was a good idea and very well done. Nothing remarkable about the song, though. Sounds like the Stones.

I dug the song, but that video was something else.  I loved how the street signs moved in front of the billboards, seemlessly. I also liked how each of the billboards capture (perfectly, IMO) a discrete era of the band.  The one for "Emotional Rescue" (one of my favorite Stones albums) was especially cool.