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Title: Official: DTF's song ratings 2009 (closed)
Post by: ariich on November 06, 2009, 05:40:04 PM: Right gang, here it is. Our attempt to gauge, as accurately as possible, the forum's overall consensus of every Dream Theater song. A couple of points:

1) Please provide ratings out of 10, preferably to the nearest 0.5 and no more specific, although if people would prefer to just do whole numbers that's fine.

2) In the Presence of Enemies has been included as one song, and for DT's "unreleased songs", I have included the same 14 as were voted to be well-known enough to be included in the DT survivor 2009. Although this is entirely separate from the survivor, and is essentially a completely different method of rating/ranking the songs, these should give some consistency, and might also mean that interesting comparisons can be drawn between this and the survivor.

3) If there are any songs that you simply don't know well enough (or at all), feel free to leave them blank.

4) If rating every song in one go is a bit overwhelming (which would be totally understandable), feel free to post the whole thing but just rate as many albums/songs as you feel like and come back and fill in the blanks later.

5) I've put it in the DT board for now so we can get as many people involved as possible to get a real consensus. Feel free to discuss each other's ratings as much as you like, should make it interesting. Though please do NOT quote each other's entire rating lists!

Right, then, here goes. Just quote or copy and paste this and rate things accordingly:

~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies:
Status Seeker:
Ytse Jam:
The Killing Hand:
Light Fuse and Get Away:
Afterlife:
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun:
Only a Matter of Time:

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under:
Another Day:
Take the Time:
Surrounded:
Metropolis Pt 1:
Under a Glass Moon:
Wait for Sleep:
Learning to Live:

~Awake~
6:00:
Caught in a Web:
Innocence Faded:
Erotomania:
Voices:
The Silent Man:
The Mirror:
Lie:
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream:
Scarred:
Space Dye-Vest:

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons:

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium:
You Not Me:
Peruvian Skies:
Hollow Years:
Burning My Soul:
Hell's Kitchen:
Lines in the Sand:
Take Away My Pain:
Just Let Me Breathe:
Anna Lee:
Trial of Tears:

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression:
Overture 1928:
Strange déjà vu:
Through My Words:
Fatal Tragedy:
Beyond This Life:
Through Her Eyes:
Home:
The Dance of Eternity:
One Last Time:
The Spirit Carries On:
Finally Free:

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison:
Blind Faith:
Misunderstood:
The Great Debate:
Disappear:
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence:

~Train of Thought~
As I Am:
This Dying Soul:
Endless Sacrifice:
Honor Thy Father:
Vacant:
Stream of Consciousness:
In the Name of God:

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil:
The Answer Lies Within:
These Walls:
I Walk Beside You:
Panic Attack:
Never Enough:
Sacrificed Sons:
Octavarium:

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies:
Forsaken:
Constant Motion:
The Dark Eternal Night:
Repentance:
Prophets of War:
The Ministry of Lost Souls:

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember:
A Rite of Passage:
Wither:
The Shattered Fortress:
The Best of Times:
The Count of Tuscany:

~Unreleased~
Another Won:
Your Majesty:
A Vision:
Two Far:
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me:
To Live Forever:
Eve:
Raise the Knife:
Where Are You Now?:
The Way It Used to Be:
Cover My Eyes:
Speak to Me:
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 06, 2009, 05:40:36 PM: Mine:

~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies:    8
Status Seeker:    4
Ytse Jam:    6.5
The Killing Hand:    6
Light Fuse and Get Away:    5
Afterlife:    7.5
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun:    4
Only a Matter of Time:    8.5

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under:    6.5
Another Day:    8
Take the Time:    9
Surrounded:    8
Metropolis Pt 1:    9
Under a Glass Moon:    8.5
Wait for Sleep:    8.5
Learning to Live:    10

~Awake~
6:00:    8
Caught in a Web:    6
Innocence Faded:    8.5
Erotomania:    9
Voices:    9
The Silent Man:    8
The Mirror:    7.5
Lie:    9.5
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream:    9
Scarred:    7
Space Dye-Vest:    10

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons:    10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium:    7.5
You Not Me:    6
Peruvian Skies:    8.5
Hollow Years:    8
Burning My Soul:    4
Hell's Kitchen:    9
Lines in the Sand:    8
Take Away My Pain:    7.5
Just Let Me Breathe:    7.5
Anna Lee:    8
Trial of Tears:    10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression:    5
Overture 1928:    7
Strange déjà vu:    7
Through My Words:    5
Fatal Tragedy:    8
Beyond This Life:    7
Through Her Eyes:    6
Home:    9
The Dance of Eternity:    6
One Last Time:    7
The Spirit Carries On:    9
Finally Free:    9

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison:    9
Blind Faith:    9.5
Misunderstood:    8.5
The Great Debate:    10
Disappear:    9.5
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence:    8

~Train of Thought~
As I Am:    7
This Dying Soul:    6
Endless Sacrifice:    5
Honor Thy Father:    9
Vacant:    9
Stream of Consciousness:    9
In the Name of God:    10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil:    6
The Answer Lies Within:    8
These Walls:    7.5
I Walk Beside You:    4
Panic Attack:    7
Never Enough:    7
Sacrificed Sons:    8
Octavarium:    10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies:    8
Forsaken:    8
Constant Motion:    7
The Dark Eternal Night:    8
Repentance:    8.5
Prophets of War:    6
The Ministry of Lost Souls:    10

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember:    9
A Rite of Passage:    7
Wither:    10
The Shattered Fortress:    9
The Best of Times:    9
The Count of Tuscany:    9.5

~Unreleased~
Another Won:    6
Your Majesty:    4
A Vision:    3
Two Far:    3
Vital Star:    3
March of the Tyrant:    3
Don't Look Past Me:    5
To Live Forever:    5.5
Eve:    9.5
Raise the Knife:    9
Where Are You Now?:    6.5
The Way It Used to Be:    6
Cover My Eyes:    7.5
Speak to Me:    7
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Rafael Guerra on November 06, 2009, 05:57:22 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 5
Status Seeker: 5.5
Ytse Jam: 7
The Killing Hand: 5
Light Fuse and Get Away: 5
Afterlife: 5
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 5
Only a Matter of Time: 7

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 7
Another Day: 7
Take the Time: 7
Surrounded: 7
Metropolis Pt 1: 9
Under a Glass Moon: 7.5
Wait for Sleep: 6
Learning to Live: 7.5

~Awake~
6:00: 6
Caught in a Web: 7
Innocence Faded: 7
Erotomania: 8
Voices: 8
The Silent Man: 6
The Mirror: 8.5
Lie: 8.5
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7.5
Scarred: 7
Space Dye-Vest: 7.5

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 9.5

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 7
You Not Me: 5
Peruvian Skies: 7.5
Hollow Years: 6
Burning My Soul: 5
Hell's Kitchen: 9
Lines in the Sand: 6
Take Away My Pain: 6
Just Let Me Breathe: 6.5
Anna Lee: 6
Trial of Tears: 9

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 5
Overture 1928: 7
Strange déjà vu: 7
Through My Words: 5
Fatal Tragedy: 8
Beyond This Life: 7
Through Her Eyes: 7
Home: 7
The Dance of Eternity: 7
One Last Time: 6
The Spirit Carries On: 9
Finally Free: 9

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9
Blind Faith: 9.5
Misunderstood: 8.5
The Great Debate: 10
Disappear: 9.5
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 7
Endless Sacrifice: 7
Honor Thy Father: 7
Vacant: 7
Stream of Consciousness: 9
In the Name of God: 9

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 5
These Walls: 7
I Walk Beside You: 7
Panic Attack: 7
Never Enough: 6
Sacrificed Sons: 9
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 9.5
Forsaken: 9
Constant Motion: 5
The Dark Eternal Night: 8
Repentance: 8
Prophets of War: 6
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 8.5

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9
A Rite of Passage: 7
Wither: 10
The Shattered Fortress: 9
The Best of Times: 9
The Count of Tuscany: 10
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Scurvy!Dreams on November 06, 2009, 06:05:20 PM: How are you going to compile all this? Maybe it'd be easier to have everyone fill out a Google Spreadsheet so that you can at least copy and paste them in an efficient manner?
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 06, 2009, 06:06:32 PM: Nah it'll be easy enough to copy into spreadsheets (I'm pretty quick with Excel functions and stuff). I just figured this would be the easiest way for people to fill it in, so should increase participation. :)
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: orcus116 on November 06, 2009, 06:12:08 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 9
Status Seeker: 5
Ytse Jam: 7.5
The Killing Hand: 8.5
Light Fuse and Get Away:7
Afterlife: 6.5
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 6.5
Only a Matter of Time: 8

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 10
Another Day: 7.5
Take the Time: 10
Surrounded: 8
Metropolis Pt 1: 8
Under a Glass Moon: 8
Wait for Sleep: 9
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 7.5
Caught in a Web: 6.5
Innocence Faded: 5
Erotomania: 9
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 8
The Mirror: 7.5
Lie: 7.5
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8.5
Scarred: 9
Space Dye-Vest: 10

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8
You Not Me: 4
Peruvian Skies: 9
Hollow Years: 5.5
Burning My Soul: 4.5
Hell's Kitchen: 10
Lines in the Sand: 10
Take Away My Pain: 6.5
Just Let Me Breathe: 6.5
Anna Lee: 7
Trial of Tears: 9.5

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 6
Overture 1928: 8
Strange déjà vu: 7.5
Through My Words: 5
Fatal Tragedy: 9.5
Beyond This Life: 6.5
Through Her Eyes: 6
Home: 9.5
The Dance of Eternity: 3
One Last Time: 7
The Spirit Carries On: 8
Finally Free: 8

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9.5
Blind Faith: 9
Misunderstood: 8.5
The Great Debate: 8
Disappear: 8.5
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 4.5

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 5
This Dying Soul: 6.5
Endless Sacrifice: 0.5
Honor Thy Father: 7.5
Vacant: 6
Stream of Consciousness: 7
In the Name of God: 8.5

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8.5
The Answer Lies Within: 3
These Walls: 9
I Walk Beside You: 4.5
Panic Attack: 7
Never Enough: 6
Sacrificed Sons: 6.5
Octavarium: 9

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 6.5 (9 for part 1, 4 for part 2)
Forsaken: 6.5
Constant Motion: 7
The Dark Eternal Night: 1.5
Repentance: 8
Prophets of War: 4.5
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 3.5

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 3.5
A Rite of Passage: 6
Wither: 5.5
The Shattered Fortress: 3.5
The Best of Times: 8
The Count of Tuscany: 5

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 8
Your Majesty:
A Vision:
Two Far:
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me:
To Live Forever: 9
Eve: 9
Raise the Knife: 8.5
Where Are You Now?:
The Way It Used to Be: 8
Cover My Eyes:
Speak to Me:
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Phantasmatron on November 06, 2009, 06:18:10 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 6
Status Seeker: 7
Ytse Jam: 6
The Killing Hand: 3
Light Fuse and Get Away: 7
Afterlife: 5
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 4
Only a Matter of Time: 8

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 7
Another Day: 5
Take the Time: 8
Surrounded: 7
Metropolis Pt 1: 7
Under a Glass Moon: 6
Wait for Sleep: 7
Learning to Live: 6

~Awake~
6:00: 8
Caught in a Web: 9
Innocence Faded: 7
Erotomania: 5
Voices: 7
The Silent Man: 6
The Mirror: 8
Lie: 9
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8
Scarred: 6
Space Dye-Vest: 8

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 8

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8
You Not Me: 5
Peruvian Skies: 7
Hollow Years: 9
Burning My Soul: 8
Hell's Kitchen: 8
Lines in the Sand: 6
Take Away My Pain: 6
Just Let Me Breathe: 7
Anna Lee: 6
Trial of Tears: 6

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 7
Overture 1928: 10
Strange déjà vu: 8
Through My Words: 7
Fatal Tragedy: 8
Beyond This Life: 7
Through Her Eyes: 8
Home: 10
The Dance of Eternity: 7
One Last Time: 9
The Spirit Carries On: 9
Finally Free: 10

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 8
Misunderstood: 10
The Great Debate: 9
Disappear: 10
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 9

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 7
Endless Sacrifice: 7
Honor Thy Father: 7
Vacant: 8
Stream of Consciousness: 8
In the Name of God: 7

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 6
These Walls: 9
I Walk Beside You: 7
Panic Attack: 7
Never Enough: 8
Sacrificed Sons: 8
Octavarium: 9

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 8
Forsaken: 7
Constant Motion: 7
The Dark Eternal Night: 7
Repentance: 9
Prophets of War: 8
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 6

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 8
A Rite of Passage: 7
Wither: 7
The Shattered Fortress: 10
The Best of Times: 7
The Count of Tuscany: 7

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 6
Your Majesty: 6
A Vision:
Two Far: 6
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me: 7
To Live Forever: 7
Eve: 8
Raise the Knife: 8
Where Are You Now?:
The Way It Used to Be: 6
Cover My Eyes:
Speak to Me: 7
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 06, 2009, 06:41:12 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 7.5
Status Seeker: 0
Ytse Jam: 7.5
The Killing Hand: 6 (would be much higher for live version, but studio is only a 6)
Light Fuse and Get Away: 0
Afterlife: 7.5
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 0
Only a Matter of Time: 1

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8.5
Another Day: 8.5
Take the Time: 10
Surrounded: 8
Metropolis Pt 1: 9
Under a Glass Moon: 9
Wait for Sleep: 7
Learning to Live: 7

~Awake~
6:00: 7.5
Caught in a Web: 8
Innocence Faded: 7.5
Erotomania: 8
Voices: 8
The Silent Man: 8.5
The Mirror: 7.5
Lie: 5
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 4
Scarred: 0
Space Dye-Vest: 0

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 8

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millennium: 8
You Not Me: 5
Peruvian Skies: 7
Hollow Years: 8.5
Burning My Soul: 6.5
Hell's Kitchen: 8.5
Lines in the Sand: 9
Take Away My Pain: 6
Just Let Me Breathe: 8
Anna Lee: 8.5
Trial of Tears: 9

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 8
Overture 1928: 8
Strange déjà vu: 8.5
Through My Words: 7.5
Fatal Tragedy: 8.5
Beyond This Life: 8.5
Through Her Eyes: 7.5
Home: 7
The Dance of Eternity: 7.5
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 8.5
Finally Free: 8

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 7.5
Misunderstood: 8.5
The Great Debate: 8
Disappear: 9.5
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 9
This Dying Soul: 7.5
Endless Sacrifice: 5
Honor Thy Father: 7.5
Vacant: 9
Stream of Consciousness: 8
In the Name of God: 9.5

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 9
The Answer Lies Within: 6.5
These Walls: 9.5
I Walk Beside You: 7
Panic Attack: 8.5
Never Enough: 6
Sacrificed Sons: 8
Octavarium: 8.5

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 8
Forsaken: 7.5
Constant Motion: 8.5
The Dark Eternal Night: 9.5
Repentance: 8
Prophets of War: 6
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 6.5

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9
A Rite of Passage: 8
Wither: 7.5
The Shattered Fortress: 7.5
The Best of Times: 7
The Count of Tuscany: 9

~Unreleased~
Another Won:
Your Majesty:
A Vision:
Two Far:
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me:
To Live Forever:
Eve:
Raise the Knife:
Where Are You Now?:
The Way It Used to Be:
Cover My Eyes:
Speak to Me:

I haven't heard the unreleased stuff enough to rank them. Feel free to count them as 0s though :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Scurvy!Dreams on November 06, 2009, 06:41:34 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~ Average: 6
A Fortune in Lies: 9
Status Seeker: 5
Ytse Jam: 7
The Killing Hand: 6
Light Fuse and Get Away: 4
Afterlife: 6
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 4
Only a Matter of Time: 7

~Images and Words~ Average: 8
Pull Me Under: 8
Another Day: 5
Take the Time: 8
Surrounded: 9
Metropolis Pt 1: 9
Under a Glass Moon: 6
Wait for Sleep: 9
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~ Average: 7.09
6:00: 7
Caught in a Web: 8
Innocence Faded: 7
Erotomania: 7
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 5
The Mirror: 8
Lie: 8
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 4
Scarred: 8
Space Dye-Vest: 6

~A Change of Seasons~ Average: 10 Median: 10 Mode: 10
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~ Average: 6.636
New Millenium: 4
You Not Me: 3
Peruvian Skies: 8
Hollow Years: 8
Burning My Soul: 6
Hell's Kitchen: 6
Lines in the Sand: 10
Take Away My Pain: 6
Just Let Me Breathe: 7
Anna Lee: 5
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~ Average: 7.2
Regression: -
Overture 1928: 8
Strange déjà vu: 7
Through My Words: -
Fatal Tragedy: 9
Beyond This Life: 7
Through Her Eyes: 5
Home: 8
The Dance of Eternity: 1
One Last Time: 9
The Spirit Carries On: 8
Finally Free: 10

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~ Average: 6.167
The Glass Prison: 9
Blind Faith: 8
Misunderstood: 7
The Great Debate: 1
Disappear: 8
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 4

~Train of Thought~ Average: 6.429
As I Am: 2
This Dying Soul: 7
Endless Sacrifice: 6
Honor Thy Father: 6
Vacant: 8
Stream of Consciousness: 9
In the Name of God: 7

~Octavarium~ Average: 5.75
The Root of All Evil: 9
The Answer Lies Within: 4
These Walls: 7
I Walk Beside You: 2
Panic Attack: 8
Never Enough: 4
Sacrificed Sons: 3
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~ Average: 4.142
In The Presence of Enemies: 6
Forsaken: 3
Constant Motion: 4
The Dark Eternal Night: 5
Repentance: 6
Prophets of War: 4
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 1

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~ Average: 5.667
A Nightmare to Remember: 5
A Rite of Passage: 3
Wither: 4
The Shattered Fortress: 8
The Best of Times: 7
The Count of Tuscany: 7

~Unreleased~ Average: 5.875
Another Won: -
Your Majesty: -
A Vision: -
Two Far: -
Vital Star: -
March of the Tyrant: -
Don't Look Past Me: 8
To Live Forever: 5
Eve: 7
Raise the Knife: 7
Where Are You Now?: 3
The Way It Used to Be: 3
Cover My Eyes: 7
Speak to Me: 6

Albums ranked by average:
Images and Words - 8
Scenes From a Memory - 7.2
Awake - 7.09
Falling Into Infinity - 6.727
Train of Thought - 6.429
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence - 6.167
When Dream and Day Unite - 6
Octavarium - 5.875
Unreleased - 5.75
Black Clouds & Silver Linings - 5.667
Systematic Chaos - 4.142
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: GuineaPig on November 06, 2009, 07:05:13 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 9
Status Seeker: 7
Ytse Jam: 8
The Killing Hand: 9
Light Fuse and Get Away: 7
Afterlife: 6
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 6
Only a Matter of Time: 4

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 9
Another Day: 6
Take the Time: 9
Surrounded: 6
Metropolis Pt 1: 8
Under a Glass Moon: 8
Wait for Sleep: 9
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 6
Caught in a Web: 7
Innocence Faded: 7
Erotomania: 6
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 6
The Mirror: 8
Lie: 5
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 7

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 9

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8
You Not Me: 4
Peruvian Skies: 7
Hollow Years: 5
Burning My Soul: 8
Hell's Kitchen: 10
Lines in the Sand: 10
Take Away My Pain: 5
Just Let Me Breathe: 6
Anna Lee: 2
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 2
Overture 1928: 9
Strange déjà vu: 8
Through My Words: 3
Fatal Tragedy: 8
Beyond This Life: 5
Through Her Eyes: 5
Home: 8
The Dance of Eternity: 6
One Last Time: 9
The Spirit Carries On: 8
Finally Free: 7

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9
Blind Faith: 8
Misunderstood: 8
The Great Debate: 6
Disappear: 7
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 6

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 7
Endless Sacrifice: 4
Honor Thy Father: 3
Vacant: 7
Stream of Consciousness: 8
In the Name of God: 9

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 2
These Walls: 9
I Walk Beside You: 2
Panic Attack: 7
Never Enough: 6
Sacrificed Sons: 3
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 7
Forsaken: 3
Constant Motion: 4
The Dark Eternal Night: 1
Repentance: 8
Prophets of War: 1
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 4

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 7
A Rite of Passage: 6
Wither: 3
The Shattered Fortress: 2
The Best of Times: 2
The Count of Tuscany: 10
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: EmilSumm on November 06, 2009, 07:40:48 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 6
Status Seeker: 4
Ytse Jam: 5
The Killing Hand: 5
Light Fuse and Get Away: 3
Afterlife: 4
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 3
Only a Matter of Time: 4

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 7
Another Day: 6.5
Take the Time: 9.5
Surrounded: 9
Metropolis Pt 1: 9.5
Under a Glass Moon: 8.5
Wait for Sleep: 9
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 8.5
Caught in a Web: 9
Innocence Faded: 7
Erotomania: 9
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 7
The Mirror: 9
Lie: 8.5
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 9
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 9

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 9.5

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 6
You Not Me: 2
Peruvian Skies: 6
Hollow Years: 6
Burning My Soul: 4
Hell's Kitchen: 7
Lines in the Sand: 8
Take Away My Pain: 3
Just Let Me Breathe: 4
Anna Lee: 6
Trial of Tears: 7

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 2
Overture 1928: 8.5
Strange déjà vu: 5
Through My Words: 3
Fatal Tragedy: 9
Beyond This Life: 7
Through Her Eyes: 8
Home: 7
The Dance of Eternity: 6
One Last Time: 4
The Spirit Carries On: 6
Finally Free: 7

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9.5
Blind Faith: 9
Misunderstood: 7
The Great Debate: 5
Disappear: 9
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 3

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 8
Endless Sacrifice: 5
Honor Thy Father: 7
Vacant: 7
Stream of Consciousness: 7
In the Name of God: 7

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 5
These Walls: 5
I Walk Beside You: 6
Panic Attack: 8
Never Enough: 6
Sacrificed Sons: 8.5
Octavarium: 5

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 8.5
Forsaken: 6
Constant Motion: 7.5
The Dark Eternal Night: 7
Repentance: 7
Prophets of War: 7
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 7.5

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9
A Rite of Passage: 7
Wither: 9.5
The Shattered Fortress: 9
The Best of Times: 8.5
The Count of Tuscany: 9.5

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 9
Your Majesty:
A Vision:
Two Far:
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me:
To Live Forever:
Eve: 3
Raise the Knife: 9.5
Where Are You Now?:
The Way It Used to Be:
Cover My Eyes:
Speak to Me:
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on November 06, 2009, 08:02:27 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 8.5
Status Seeker: 4
Ytse Jam: 9.5
The Killing Hand: 7
Light Fuse and Get Away: 6.5
Afterlife: 8
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 7
Only a Matter of Time: 8.5

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8.5
Another Day: 4
Take the Time: 9
Surrounded: 9.5
Metropolis Pt 1: 9.5
Under a Glass Moon: 8.5
Wait for Sleep: 9
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 9
Caught in a Web: 9
Innocence Faded: 9
Erotomania: 9.5
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 8.5
The Mirror: 8.5
Lie: 9
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 9.5
Scarred: 9
Space Dye-Vest: 9.5

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 9
You Not Me: 6
Peruvian Skies: 8
Hollow Years: 7.5
Burning My Soul: 8
Hell's Kitchen: 9
Lines in the Sand: 10
Take Away My Pain: 8.5
Just Let Me Breathe: 8
Anna Lee: 6.5
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 5
Overture 1928: 8
Strange déjà vu: 8
Through My Words: 5.5
Fatal Tragedy: 9
Beyond This Life: 2
Through Her Eyes: 6.5
Home: 9
The Dance of Eternity: 9
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 9.5
Finally Free: 9

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9.5
Blind Faith: 9.5
Misunderstood: 6.5
The Great Debate: 8
Disappear: 6
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 8.5
This Dying Soul: 8
Endless Sacrifice: 4.5
Honor Thy Father: 8
Vacant: 7
Stream of Consciousness: 1
In the Name of God: 9.5

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 9
The Answer Lies Within: 7.5
These Walls: 8.5
I Walk Beside You: 7
Panic Attack: 8.5
Never Enough: 8
Sacrificed Sons: 8
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 10
Forsaken: 6.5
Constant Motion: 7.5
The Dark Eternal Night: 9
Repentance: 5.5
Prophets of War: 7
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 9

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9.5
A Rite of Passage: 8
Wither: 5
The Shattered Fortress: 8.5
The Best of Times: 9
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won:
Your Majesty:
A Vision:
Two Far:
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me:
To Live Forever:
Eve:
Raise the Knife:
Where Are You Now?:
The Way It Used to Be:
Cover My Eyes:
Speak to Me:

I'll go back and do the unreleased after i relisten to them
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Blind_FaithX on November 06, 2009, 08:09:58 PM: I'm suprised of how many DT fan don't know the song eve. It's probably the best (close with Overture 1928 imo) instrumental they have ever done.

You people should all listen to that tonight before going to sleep and see how beautiful it is.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: energythief on November 06, 2009, 09:36:58 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 4
Status Seeker: 4
Ytse Jam: 6
The Killing Hand: 4
Light Fuse and Get Away: 4
Afterlife: 4
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 4
Only a Matter of Time: 4

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 10
Another Day: 8
Take the Time: 9
Surrounded: 9.5
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 10
Wait for Sleep: 10
Learning to Live: 9.5

~Awake~
6:00: 6
Caught in a Web: 6
Innocence Faded: 7
Erotomania: 9
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 8
The Mirror: 8.5
Lie: 9
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7
Scarred: 9
Space Dye-Vest: 10

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 10
You Not Me: 4
Peruvian Skies: 9
Hollow Years: 7
Burning My Soul: 4
Hell's Kitchen: 8
Lines in the Sand: 10
Take Away My Pain: 8
Just Let Me Breathe: 9
Anna Lee: 9
Trial of Tears: 9

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 8
Overture 1928: 9
Strange déjà vu: 9.5
Through My Words: 8.5
Fatal Tragedy: 9.5
Beyond This Life: 8
Through Her Eyes: 8.5
Home: 10
The Dance of Eternity: 10
One Last Time: 9.5
The Spirit Carries On: 7.5
Finally Free: 10

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9.5
Blind Faith: 10
Misunderstood: 7
The Great Debate: 9
Disappear: 10
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 8

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 5
This Dying Soul: 9
Endless Sacrifice: 9.5
Honor Thy Father: 8
Vacant: 10
Stream of Consciousness: 10
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 9
The Answer Lies Within: 7
These Walls: 7
I Walk Beside You: 9
Panic Attack: 4
Never Enough: 4
Sacrificed Sons: 2
Octavarium: 6

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 10
Forsaken: 10
Constant Motion: 5
The Dark Eternal Night: 3
Repentance: 8
Prophets of War: 9
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 9

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 2
A Rite of Passage: 5
Wither: 7
The Shattered Fortress: 8.5
The Best of Times: 5
The Count of Tuscany: 2

~Unreleased~
Another Won:
Your Majesty:
A Vision:
Two Far:
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me:
To Live Forever:
Eve: 8
Raise the Knife: 8
Where Are You Now?:
The Way It Used to Be:
Cover My Eyes: 8
Speak to Me: 10
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Global Laziness on November 06, 2009, 10:03:14 PM: Oh come on Blob, how can you give any song a zero? You mean to say that all those songs have absolutely no redeeming qualities whatsoever? That's just ridiculous.

@ariich, this is a good idea. It'll be a lot of work for a lot of people (myself included), but I'll definitely be interested to see the results. I'll try to post my rankings sometime this weekend.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Scurvy!Dreams on November 06, 2009, 10:17:22 PM: I thought the scale was 1 to 10. *shrugs*
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: skydivingninja on November 06, 2009, 10:25:00 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 7/10
Status Seeker: 4/10
Ytse Jam: 7/10
The Killing Hand: 7/10
Light Fuse and Get Away: 5/10
Afterlife: 7/10
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 3/10
Only a Matter of Time: 7/10

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 9/10
Another Day: 8/10
Take the Time: 10/10
Surrounded: 8/10
Metropolis Pt 1: 10/10
Under a Glass Moon: 9/10
Wait for Sleep: 9/10
Learning to Live: 10/10

~Awake~
6:00: 10/10
Caught in a Web: 6/10
Innocence Faded: 8/10
Erotomania: 10/10
Voices: 10/10
The Silent Man: 8/10
The Mirror: 6/10
Lie: 2/10
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 10/10
Scarred: 6/10
Space Dye-Vest: 5/10

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10/10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 10/10
You Not Me: 1/10
Peruvian Skies: 8/10
Hollow Years: 6/10
Burning My Soul: 1/10
Hell's Kitchen: 9/10
Lines in the Sand: 10/10
Take Away My Pain: 6/10
Just Let Me Breathe: 5/10
Anna Lee: 6/10
Trial of Tears: 10/10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 5/10
Overture 1928: 10/10
Strange déjà vu: 10/10
Through My Words: 5/10
Fatal Tragedy: 9/10
Beyond This Life: 7/10
Through Her Eyes: 7/10
Home: 9/10
The Dance of Eternity: 6/10
One Last Time: 8/10
The Spirit Carries On: 9/10
Finally Free: 9/10

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10/10
Blind Faith: 10/10
Misunderstood: 5/10
The Great Debate: 7/10
Disappear: 9/10
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 8/10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 8/10
This Dying Soul: 1/10
Endless Sacrifice: 2/10
Honor Thy Father: 1/10
Vacant: 8/10
Stream of Consciousness: 4/10
In the Name of God: 10/10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8/10
The Answer Lies Within: 6/10
These Walls: 10/10
I Walk Beside You: 6/10
Panic Attack: 6/10
Never Enough: 6/10
Sacrificed Sons: 7/10
Octavarium: 10/10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 5/10
Forsaken: 9/10
Constant Motion: 6/10
The Dark Eternal Night: 3/10
Repentance: 7/10
Prophets of War: 1/10
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 4/10

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 5/10
A Rite of Passage: 7/10
Wither: 8/10
The Shattered Fortress: 9/10
The Best of Times: 10/10
The Count of Tuscany: 10/10

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 8/10
Your Majesty: ---
A Vision: ---
Two Far: ---
Vital Star: ---
March of the Tyrant: ---
Don't Look Past Me: ---
To Live Forever: 10/10
Eve: 10/10
Raise the Knife: 9/10
Where Are You Now?:7/10
The Way It Used to Be: 6/10
Cover My Eyes: 7/10
Speak to Me: 10/10
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Jamesman42 on November 06, 2009, 10:32:40 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 6
Status Seeker: 4
Ytse Jam: 7
The Killing Hand: 7
Light Fuse and Get Away: 3
Afterlife: 6
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 6
Only a Matter of Time: 5

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 7
Another Day: 9
Take the Time: 9
Surrounded: 9
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 8
Wait for Sleep: 9
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 9
Caught in a Web: 8
Innocence Faded: 7
Erotomania: 8
Voices: 9.5
The Silent Man: 8
The Mirror: 8
Lie: 7.5
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8
Scarred: 5
Space Dye-Vest: 8.5

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 3
You Not Me: 1
Peruvian Skies: 4
Hollow Years: 8
Burning My Soul: 5
Hell's Kitchen: 10
Lines in the Sand: 9
Take Away My Pain:8
Just Let Me Breathe: 4
Anna Lee: 8
Trial of Tears: 9.5

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression:1
Overture 1928: 8
Strange déjà vu: 6
Through My Words: 2
Fatal Tragedy: 7
Beyond This Life: 3
Through Her Eyes: 6
Home: 6.5
The Dance of Eternity: 9
One Last Time: 3
The Spirit Carries On: 10
Finally Free: 2

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 7.5
Misunderstood: 8.5
The Great Debate: 9
Disappear:9.5
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 9.5

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 8.5
This Dying Soul: 8
Endless Sacrifice: 9.5
Honor Thy Father: 8
Vacant: 9
Stream of Consciousness: 9
In the Name of God:9.5

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 9
The Answer Lies Within: 8
These Walls: 8.5
I Walk Beside You: 7
Panic Attack: 9
Never Enough: 8.5
Sacrificed Sons: 7.5
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 7
Forsaken: 4
Constant Motion: 8
The Dark Eternal Night: 7.5
Repentance: 9
Prophets of War: 7
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 1

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 10
A Rite of Passage: 9.5
Wither: 9
The Shattered Fortress: 10
The Best of Times: 9
The Count of Tuscany: 10
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: KevShmev on November 06, 2009, 11:38:08 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 7
Status Seeker: 3
Ytse Jam: 8
The Killing Hand: 7
Light Fuse and Get Away: 9
Afterlife: 7
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 7
Only a Matter of Time: 9

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 9
Another Day: 9
Take the Time: 10
Surrounded: 10
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 9
Wait for Sleep: 9
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 9
Caught in a Web: 9
Innocence Faded: 9
Erotomania: 10
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 10
The Mirror: 9
Lie: 9
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 10
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 10

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8
You Not Me: 1
Peruvian Skies: 9
Hollow Years: 8
Burning My Soul: 1
Hell's Kitchen: 10
Lines in the Sand: 10
Take Away My Pain: 8
Just Let Me Breathe: 5
Anna Lee: 7
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 6
Overture 1928: 9
Strange déjà vu: 9
Through My Words: 8
Fatal Tragedy: 8
Beyond This Life: 7
Through Her Eyes: 7
Home: 10
The Dance of Eternity: 4
One Last Time: 9
The Spirit Carries On: 10
Finally Free: 10

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 9
Misunderstood: 10
The Great Debate: 7
Disappear: 8
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 6

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 6
This Dying Soul: 4
Endless Sacrifice: 6
Honor Thy Father: 7
Vacant: 7
Stream of Consciousness: 8
In the Name of God: 8

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 5
The Answer Lies Within: 5
These Walls: 3
I Walk Beside You: 6
Panic Attack: 6
Never Enough: 1
Sacrificed Sons: 4
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 3
Forsaken: 2
Constant Motion: 1
The Dark Eternal Night: 4
Repentance: 7
Prophets of War: 5
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 7

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 8
A Rite of Passage: 6
Wither: 7
The Shattered Fortress: 7
The Best of Times: 9
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won:
Your Majesty:
A Vision:
Two Far:
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me: 5
To Live Forever: 7
Eve: 7
Raise the Knife: 7
Where Are You Now?: 6
The Way It Used to Be: 6
Cover My Eyes: 8
Speak to Me: 8
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: j on November 06, 2009, 11:51:32 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 7
Status Seeker: 5.5
Ytse Jam: 5
The Killing Hand: 6.5
Light Fuse and Get Away: 6
Afterlife: 8
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 7.5
Only a Matter of Time: 7.5

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8.5
Another Day: 8.5
Take the Time: 9
Surrounded: 9
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 9.5
Wait for Sleep: 9
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 7.5
Caught in a Web: 7.5
Innocence Faded: 8.5
Erotomania: 8.5
Voices: 9
The Silent Man: 8
The Mirror: 8
Lie: 8
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8.5
Scarred: 9.5
Space Dye-Vest: 9

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8.5
You Not Me: 3
Peruvian Skies: 7
Hollow Years: 7.5
Burning My Soul: 4
Hell's Kitchen: 9
Lines in the Sand: 9.5
Take Away My Pain: 8
Just Let Me Breathe: 5
Anna Lee: 6.5
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 5.5
Overture 1928: 9
Strange déjà vu: 8.5
Through My Words: 5
Fatal Tragedy: 8.5
Beyond This Life: 7.5
Through Her Eyes: 8
Home: 8.5
The Dance of Eternity: 7
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 8.5
Finally Free: 9

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9
Blind Faith: 9
Misunderstood: 7.5
The Great Debate: 6.5
Disappear: 8
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 9

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7.5
This Dying Soul: 5
Endless Sacrifice: 6.5
Honor Thy Father: 4
Vacant: 8
Stream of Consciousness: 9
In the Name of God: 9

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 9
The Answer Lies Within: 6
These Walls: 7.5
I Walk Beside You: 7
Panic Attack: 5.5
Never Enough: 4
Sacrificed Sons: 7.5
Octavarium: 9.5

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 8 (9.5 for part 1, 6.5 for part 2)
Forsaken: 6
Constant Motion: 6.5
The Dark Eternal Night: 6.5
Repentance: 8
Prophets of War: 1.5
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 7.5

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 8
A Rite of Passage: 7.5
Wither: 7.5
The Shattered Fortress: 7.5
The Best of Times: 5.5
The Count of Tuscany: 9.5

~Unreleased~
Another Won:
Your Majesty:
A Vision:
Two Far:
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me: 7
To Live Forever: 8.5
Eve: 7
Raise the Knife: 8
Where Are You Now?: 8
The Way It Used to Be: 7.5
Cover My Eyes: 6.5
Speak to Me: 7.5

I just kinda winged it.

-J
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: juice on November 07, 2009, 12:11:11 AM: i havent heard FII

~When Dream and Day Reunite~
A Fortune in Lies: 7.5
Status Seeker:
Ytse Jam: 8
The Killing Hand: 7
Light Fuse and Get Away:
Afterlife: 8
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun:
Only a Matter of Time:

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8
Another Day: 7
Take the Time: 10
Surrounded: 8.5
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 8
Wait for Sleep: 8
Learning to Live: 9

~Awake~
6:00: 8
Caught in a Web: 8.5
Innocence Faded: 8.5
Erotomania: 9
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 8.5
The Mirror: 8.5
Lie: 8
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7.5
Scarred: 8
Space Dye-Vest: 6

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium:
You Not Me:
Peruvian Skies:
Hollow Years:
Burning My Soul:
Hell's Kitchen:
Lines in the Sand:
Take Away My Pain:
Just Let Me Breathe:
Anna Lee:
Trial of Tears:

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 8
Overture 1928: 8
Strange déjà vu: 7
Through My Words: 6
Fatal Tragedy: 9
Beyond This Life: 9
Through Her Eyes: 6
Home: 8
The Dance of Eternity: 9
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 9
Finally Free: 8

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 8.5
Misunderstood: 9.5
The Great Debate: 9
Disappear: 8.5
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 8
This Dying Soul: 8
Endless Sacrifice: 8
Honor Thy Father: 8
Vacant: 7
Stream of Consciousness: 8.5
In the Name of God: 9.5

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 9
The Answer Lies Within: 7
These Walls: 8
I Walk Beside You: 8.5
Panic Attack: 8.5
Never Enough: 8.5
Sacrificed Sons: 9
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 10
Forsaken: 7
Constant Motion: 7
The Dark Eternal Night: 8
Repentance: 6
Prophets of War: 7
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 7.5

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9.5
A Rite of Passage: 8
Wither: 8
The Shattered Fortress: 9
The Best of Times: 8.5
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 8
Your Majesty:
A Vision:
Two Far:
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me:
To Live Forever:
Eve:
Raise the Knife: 8.5
Where Are You Now?:
The Way It Used to Be:
Cover My Eyes:
Speak to Me:
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on November 07, 2009, 12:55:25 AM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 5
Status Seeker: 5
Ytse Jam: 6
The Killing Hand: 7
Light Fuse and Get Away: 4
Afterlife: 4
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 5
Only a Matter of Time: 5

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 6
Another Day: 5
Take the Time: 7
Surrounded: 6
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 9
Wait for Sleep: 8
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 8
Caught in a Web: 6
Innocence Faded: 5
Erotomania: 6
Voices: 9
The Silent Man: 5
The Mirror: 8
Lie: 8
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8
Scarred: 8
Space Dye-Vest: 8

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10 (but It feels like 20)

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 7
You Not Me: 8
Peruvian Skies: 7
Hollow Years: 3
Burning My Soul: 3
Hell's Kitchen: 7
Lines in the Sand: 10
Take Away My Pain: 4
Just Let Me Breathe: 6
Anna Lee: 3
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 5
Overture 1928: 5
Strange déjà vu: 7
Through My Words: 5
Fatal Tragedy: 7
Beyond This Life: 6
Through Her Eyes: 7
Home: 9
The Dance of Eternity: 9
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 6
Finally Free: 8

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 8
Misunderstood: 8
The Great Debate: 8
Disappear: 5
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 5
This Dying Soul: 5
Endless Sacrifice: 7
Honor Thy Father: 8
Vacant: 5
Stream of Consciousness: 7
In the Name of God: 8

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 4
These Walls: 7
I Walk Beside You: 4
Panic Attack: 8
Never Enough: 7
Sacrificed Sons: 8
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: pt 1 - 8 pt 2- 6
Forsaken: 6
Constant Motion: 5
The Dark Eternal Night: 8
Repentance: 3
Prophets of War: 8
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 9

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9
A Rite of Passage: 7
Wither: 6
The Shattered Fortress: 5
The Best of Times: 9
The Count of Tuscany: 9

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 4
Your Majesty:
A Vision:
Two Far:
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me:
To Live Forever: 8
Eve:
Raise the Knife: 9
Where Are You Now?:
The Way It Used to Be:
Cover My Eyes:
Speak to Me:
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Scard on November 07, 2009, 12:58:09 AM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 7
Status Seeker: 4
Ytse Jam: 7
The Killing Hand: 8
Light Fuse and Get Away: 6
Afterlife: 6
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 6
Only a Matter of Time: 5

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 7
Another Day: 7
Take the Time: 8
Surrounded: 6
Metropolis Pt 1: 9
Under a Glass Moon: 7
Wait for Sleep: 6
Learning to Live: 8

~Awake~
6:00: 7.5
Caught in a Web: 7
Innocence Faded: 6
Erotomania: 7.5
Voices: 8
The Silent Man: 6
The Mirror: 8
Lie: 6.5
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8
Scarred: 8.5
Space Dye-Vest: 6.5

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 9

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 6.5
You Not Me: 3
Peruvian Skies: 6
Hollow Years: 7
Burning My Soul: 4
Hell's Kitchen: 7
Lines in the Sand: 7.5
Take Away My Pain: 5.5
Just Let Me Breathe: 5
Anna Lee: 5.5
Trial of Tears: 7

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 4
Overture 1928: 6.5
Strange déjà vu: 7
Through My Words: 4.5
Fatal Tragedy: 7
Beyond This Life: 8
Through Her Eyes: 6
Home: 8
The Dance of Eternity: 5
One Last Time: 5.5
The Spirit Carries On: 6.5
Finally Free: 7.5

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 8
Blind Faith: 8
Misunderstood: 7.5
The Great Debate: 7.5
Disappear: 8
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 8

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 6.5
This Dying Soul: 6
Endless Sacrifice: 6
Honor Thy Father: 7.5
Vacant: 6.5
Stream of Consciousness: 6
In the Name of God: 8

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 7
The Answer Lies Within: 4.5
These Walls: 6.5
I Walk Beside You: 5
Sacrificed Sons: 6
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 7.5
Forsaken: 5
Constant Motion: 5.5
The Dark Eternal Night: 6
Repentance: 6
Prophets of War: 5
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 4.5

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 8.5
A Rite of Passage: 7
Wither: 6.5
The Shattered Fortress: 7
The Best of Times: 7
The Count of Tuscany: 8.5

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 6
Your Majesty: 6
A Vision: 5
Two Far: 5
Vital Star: 5
March of the Tyrant: 5.5
Don't Look Past Me: 6
To Live Forever: 6.5
Eve: 7
Raise the Knife: 7
Where Are You Now?: 6.5
The Way It Used to Be: 6
Cover My Eyes: 6
Speak to Me: 6.5
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Darkes7 on November 07, 2009, 01:30:37 AM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 7
Status Seeker: 5
Ytse Jam: 7.5
The Killing Hand: 6.5
Light Fuse and Get Away: 6
Afterlife: 4
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 6
Only a Matter of Time: 5

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 9
Another Day: 6
Take the Time: 6
Surrounded: 7
Metropolis Pt 1: 8
Under a Glass Moon: 7
Wait for Sleep: 9.5
Learning to Live: 9.5

~Awake~
6:00: 8.5
Caught in a Web: 8
Innocence Faded: 7
Erotomania: 7
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 8
The Mirror: 9.5
Lie: 8
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7.5
Scarred: 8.5
Space Dye-Vest: 9.5

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: to be added sometime in the future

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 4
You Not Me: 6
Peruvian Skies: 9
Hollow Years: 6 (9.5 for live version)
Burning My Soul: 8
Hell's Kitchen: 9
Lines in the Sand: 8 (9 for live version)
Take Away My Pain: 7
Just Let Me Breathe: 8
Anna Lee: 8
Trial of Tears: 9.5

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 10
Overture 1928: 9
Strange déjà vu: 8
Through My Words: 9
Fatal Tragedy: 9.5
Beyond This Life: 8
Through Her Eyes: 8.5
Home: 10
The Dance of Eternity: 7
One Last Time: 9
The Spirit Carries On: 9
Finally Free: 9.5

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9.5
Blind Faith: 7
Misunderstood: 8.5
The Great Debate: 8
Disappear: 9.5
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 9
Endless Sacrifice: 7
Honor Thy Father: 8
Vacant: 10
Stream of Consciousness: 6
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 9.5
The Answer Lies Within: 6
These Walls: 8
I Walk Beside You: 6
Panic Attack: 8
Never Enough: 7
Sacrificed Sons: 10
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 9
Forsaken: 7
Constant Motion: 9.5
The Dark Eternal Night: 8
Repentance: 10
Prophets of War: 6.5
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 9.5

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9.5
A Rite of Passage: 7
Wither: 7
The Shattered Fortress: 9.5
The Best of Times: 8
The Count of Tuscany: 8.5

As for unreleased songs, I can only give 9,5 for the Score version of Raise the Knife. Don't know any of them in studio version yet, though.

Average album ratings (pretty accurate, except Awake and Octavarium should be higher):
1. Scenes From a Memory - 8.875
2. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence - 8.75
3. Systematic Chaos - 8.5
4. Black Clouds & Silver Linings - 8.417
5. Awake - 8.318
6. Train of Thought - 8.143
7. Octavarium - 8.063
8. Images & Words - 7.75
9. Falling Into Infinity - 7.5
10. When Dream and Day Unite - 5.75

edit: some editing.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on November 07, 2009, 01:37:52 AM: you didn't rate ACOS???
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Darkes7 on November 07, 2009, 01:58:03 AM: I knew someone would notice that and apparently I have to confess to something terrible. :blush

...I'll fix it soon, I promise.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: AcidLameLTE on November 07, 2009, 03:23:45 AM: :omg: :omg:

FIX IT RIGHT NOW

~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 7
Status Seeker: 4
Ytse Jam: 7
The Killing Hand: 5
Light Fuse and Get Away: 4
Afterlife: 5
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 4
Only a Matter of Time: 4

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8
Another Day: 7
Take the Time: 8
Surrounded: 7
Metropolis Pt 1: 9
Under a Glass Moon: 10
Wait for Sleep: 8
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 9
Caught in a Web: 8
Innocence Faded: 8
Erotomania: 7
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 9
The Mirror: 9
Lie: 7
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 8

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8
You Not Me: 1
Peruvian Skies: 6
Hollow Years: 6
Burning My Soul: 1
Hell's Kitchen: 7
Lines in the Sand: 10
Take Away My Pain: 5
Just Let Me Breathe: 4
Anna Lee: 5
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 7
Overture 1928: 9
Strange déjà vu: 8
Through My Words: 7
Fatal Tragedy: 8
Beyond This Life: 8
Through Her Eyes: 7
Home: 10
The Dance of Eternity: 7
One Last Time: 6
The Spirit Carries On: 7
Finally Free: 9

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 7
Misunderstood: 9
The Great Debate: 8
Disappear: 10
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 8

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 7
Endless Sacrifice: 6
Honor Thy Father: 8
Vacant: 9
Stream of Consciousness: 7
In the Name of God: 9

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 9
The Answer Lies Within: 4
These Walls: 7
I Walk Beside You: 5
Panic Attack: 7
Never Enough: 4
Sacrificed Sons: 4
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 7
Forsaken: 4
Constant Motion: 5
The Dark Eternal Night: 5
Repentance: 6
Prophets of War: 5
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 3

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 8
A Rite of Passage: 7
Wither: 7
The Shattered Fortress: 7
The Best of Times: 7
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 7
Your Majesty: N/A
A Vision: N/A
Two Far: N/A
Vital Star: N/A
March of the Tyrant: N/A
Don't Look Past Me: 7
To Live Forever: 6
Eve: 6
Raise the Knife: 7
Where Are You Now?: N/A
The Way It Used to Be: N/A
Cover My Eyes: N/A
Speak to Me:N/A
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: jag66 on November 07, 2009, 03:51:54 AM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 6
Status Seeker: 3
Ytse Jam: 6.5
The Killing Hand: 6
Light Fuse and Get Away: 4
Afterlife: 5
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 4
Only a Matter of Time: 6

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8.5
Another Day: 7
Take the Time: 8.5
Surrounded: 7
Metropolis Pt 1: 9.5
Under a Glass Moon: 9
Wait for Sleep: 6
Learning to Live: 9

~Awake~
6:00: 8
Caught in a Web: 6
Innocence Faded: 7.5
Erotomania: 7.5
Voices: 9.5
The Silent Man: 7
The Mirror: 7.5
Lie: 5.5
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7
Scarred: 9
Space Dye-Vest: 8

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 9

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 7.5
You Not Me: 4
Peruvian Skies: 7.5
Hollow Years: 6.5
Burning My Soul: 3
Hell's Kitchen: 8.5
Lines in the Sand: 9
Take Away My Pain: 6.5
Just Let Me Breathe: 6
Anna Lee: 5
Trial of Tears: 9.5

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 7.5
Overture 1928: 8.5
Strange déjà vu: 9
Through My Words: 5
Fatal Tragedy: 8
Beyond This Life: 8
Through Her Eyes: 7
Home: 7.5
The Dance of Eternity: 6
One Last Time: 7.5
The Spirit Carries On: 8.5
Finally Free: 8.5

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 8
Blind Faith: 9
Misunderstood: 8
The Great Debate: 5.5
Disappear: 7.5
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 9.5

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 6.5
Endless Sacrifice: 7
Honor Thy Father: 6.5
Vacant: 6
Stream of Consciousness: 6.5
In the Name of God: 7.5

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 7
These Walls: 7.5
I Walk Beside You: 6.5
Panic Attack: 6
Never Enough: 4
Sacrificed Sons: 7.5
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 8
Forsaken: 6.5
Constant Motion: 7.5
The Dark Eternal Night: 3
Repentance: 7.5
Prophets of War: 4
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 7

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 8.5
A Rite of Passage: 7.5
Wither: 7
The Shattered Fortress: 8
The Best of Times: 9
The Count of Tuscany: 9

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 6
Your Majesty: --
A Vision: --
Two Far: --
Vital Star: --
March of the Tyrant: --
Don't Look Past Me: --
To Live Forever: 6
Eve: 6
Raise the Knife: 8.5
Where Are You Now?: --
The Way It Used to Be: 6.5
Cover My Eyes: --
Speak to Me: 6
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 07, 2009, 04:23:34 AM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 7
Status Seeker: 5
Ytse Jam: 7.5
The Killing Hand: 6
Light Fuse and Get Away: 6
Afterlife: 5
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 6
Only a Matter of Time: 7

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 9
Another Day: 7
Take the Time: 9
Surrounded: 8
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 9.5
Wait for Sleep: 7.5
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 7
Caught in a Web: 6
Innocence Faded: 8
Erotomania: 9
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 7
The Mirror: 9
Lie: 8
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 10
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 6

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8
You Not Me: 3
Peruvian Skies: 7.5
Hollow Years: 5
Burning My Soul: 4
Hell's Kitchen: 10
Lines in the Sand: 10
Take Away My Pain: 5
Just Let Me Breathe: 5
Anna Lee: 7
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 6
Overture 1928: 8
Strange déjà vu: 7.5
Through My Words: 7
Fatal Tragedy: 9
Beyond This Life: 8
Through Her Eyes: 7.5
Home: 9
The Dance of Eternity: 8
One Last Time: 7.5
The Spirit Carries On: 9.5
Finally Free: 8

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 10
Misunderstood: 7
The Great Debate: 4
Disappear: 9.5
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 9

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 8
This Dying Soul: 7.5
Endless Sacrifice: 6
Honor Thy Father: 8.5
Vacant: 7.5
Stream of Consciousness: 7.5
In the Name of God: 8

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 1
These Walls: 8
I Walk Beside You: 7
Panic Attack: 6
Never Enough: 6
Sacrificed Sons: 7
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 8
Forsaken: 7
Constant Motion: 4
The Dark Eternal Night: 7
Repentance: 7.5
Prophets of War: 1
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 8

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 7
A Rite of Passage: 6
Wither: 8
The Shattered Fortress: 8
The Best of Times: 7.5
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 7
Your Majesty: 4
A Vision: 6
Two Far: 4
Vital Star: 4
March of the Tyrant: 4
Don't Look Past Me: 9
To Live Forever: 8.5
Eve: 10
Raise the Knife: 9
Where Are You Now?: 6
The Way It Used to Be: 7
Cover My Eyes: 7
Speak to Me:9
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: robwebster on November 07, 2009, 05:00:06 AM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 8
Status Seeker: 6
Ytse Jam: 8
The Killing Hand: 7
Light Fuse and Get Away: 7
Afterlife: 5
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 4
Only a Matter of Time: 8

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8
Another Day: 6
Take the Time: 9
Surrounded: 9
Metropolis Pt 1: 7
Under a Glass Moon: 9
Wait for Sleep: 9
Learning to Live: 9

~Awake~
6:00: 9
Caught in a Web: 8
Innocence Faded: 6
Erotomania: 9
Voices: 8
The Silent Man: 8
The Mirror: 7
Lie: 9
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 6
Scarred: 5
Space Dye-Vest: 8

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 7

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8
You Not Me: 6
Peruvian Skies: 8
Hollow Years: 9
Burning My Soul: 7
Hell's Kitchen: 9
Lines in the Sand: 7
Take Away My Pain: 5
Just Let Me Breathe: 8
Anna Lee: 6
Trial of Tears:

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 5
Overture 1928: 7
Strange déjà vu: 7
Through My Words: 5
Fatal Tragedy: 10
Beyond This Life: 9
Through Her Eyes:
Home: 8
The Dance of Eternity: 7
One Last Time: 7
The Spirit Carries On: 9
Finally Free: 9

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 8
Blind Faith: 10
Misunderstood: 9
The Great Debate: 8
Disappear: 8
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 9

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 7
Endless Sacrifice: 8
Honor Thy Father: 8
Vacant: 7 (10 if classed as part of SOC)
Stream of Consciousness: 10
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 10
The Answer Lies Within: 8
These Walls: 8
I Walk Beside You: 8
Panic Attack: 8
Never Enough: 8
Sacrificed Sons: 9
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 7 (Part 1 is a 10 though)
Forsaken: 8
Constant Motion: 8
The Dark Eternal Night: 9
Repentance: 7
Prophets of War: 7
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 7

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9
A Rite of Passage: 8
Wither: 8
The Shattered Fortress: 8
The Best of Times: 5
The Count of Tuscany: 9

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 7
Don't Look Past Me: 9
To Live Forever: 6
Eve: 6
Raise the Knife: 9
Where Are You Now?: 6
The Way It Used to Be: 8
Cover My Eyes: 8
Speak to Me: 8

There we go. A couple of them could have easily been one score up or one score down, but I'm happy with all of 'em.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 07, 2009, 05:36:28 AM: Thanks for the great response so far guys! :D

Quote from: Blind_FaithX on November 06, 2009, 08:09:58 PM
I'm suprised of how many DT fan don't know the song eve. It's probably the best (close with Overture 1928 imo) instrumental they have ever done.

You people should all listen to that tonight before going to sleep and see how beautiful it is.
I completely agree, although you shouldn't go posting links to pirated music! Be more careful please.

Quote from: Global Laziness on November 06, 2009, 10:03:14 PM
Oh come on Blob, how can you give any song a zero? You mean to say that all those songs have absolutely no redeeming qualities whatsoever? That's just ridiculous.
Quote from: Scurvy!Dreams on November 06, 2009, 10:17:22 PM
I thought the scale was 1 to 10. *shrugs*
I kind of agree with both of these, although I was actually thinking a minimum of 0.5 (as I asked for ratings to the nearest half). Guess I wasn't clear in my OP, so I'll update it. I think it was just Blob who included zeros, but I'll check and change any zeros to 0.5s.

Also, not including whole albums or unreleased tracks (which people simply may not have heard), the following people have not yet rated the following songs, so just wanted to check that you guys hadn't just missed them by mistake:

Scard: Panic Attack, Never Enough
hefdaddy: Light Fuse and Get Away, The Silent Man
Darkes7: ACOS. I know this has already been pointed out, but I thought I'd bring it up again to show just how ridiculous it is! :biggrin:
robwebster: Trial of Tears, Through Her Eyes

Oh, and one final point. If you go back and change your ratings for whatever reason (changed your mind, or rating ones you left out before), could you post to let me know, so I can update your entries in my spreadsheet. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: robwebster on November 07, 2009, 05:38:10 AM: Quote from: ariich on November 07, 2009, 05:36:28 AM
robwebster: Trial of Tears, Through Her Eyes
Whoops.

Trial's a 9. Eyes is... ah let's say 6.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 07, 2009, 05:46:21 AM: ariich, I fixed my list. Sorry.

WTF Blob.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 07, 2009, 05:47:43 AM: Quote from: Global Laziness on November 06, 2009, 10:03:14 PM
Oh come on Blob, how can you give any song a zero? You mean to say that all those songs have absolutely no redeeming qualities whatsoever? That's just ridiculous.

Not really. If after repeated listens over the many years I've been a fan, I still cannot recall a song, or bear to listen to it in anyway, then I give it a zero. Maybe I should upgrade Scarred to a 1 for the intro, but in reality, when it's all averaged out, the difference between a 1 and a 0 makes little difference.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Marvellous G on November 07, 2009, 06:32:54 AM: ~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 9
Another Day: 7
Take the Time: 9.5
Surrounded: 9
Metropolis Pt 1: 9
Under a Glass Moon: 8
Wait for Sleep: 8
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 7
Caught in a Web: 6.5
Innocence Faded: 7
Erotomania: 7
Voices: 9.5
The Silent Man: 6.5
The Mirror: 6.5
Lie: 5
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8
Scarred: 4.5
Space Dye-Vest: 9.5

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 9.5

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8
You Not Me: 6
Peruvian Skies: 6.5
Hollow Years: 7.5
Burning My Soul: 6.5
Hell's Kitchen: 8.5
Lines in the Sand: 9.5
Take Away My Pain: 6.5
Just Let Me Breathe: 7
Anna Lee: 6
Trial of Tears: 9

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 7
Overture 1928: 8.5
Strange déjà vu: 9.5
Through My Words: 5
Fatal Tragedy: 8
Beyond This Life: 8.5
Through Her Eyes: 8.5
Home: 10
The Dance of Eternity: 7
One Last Time: 8.5
The Spirit Carries On: 9.5
Finally Free: 9.5

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9.5
Blind Faith: 8
Misunderstood: 9.5
The Great Debate: 9
Disappear: 9.5
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 9.5

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 9
This Dying Soul: 8
Endless Sacrifice: 8
Honor Thy Father: 7
Vacant: 8
Stream of Consciousness: 9
In the Name of God: 9.5

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8.5
The Answer Lies Within: 8
These Walls: 9
I Walk Beside You: 8
Panic Attack: 7.5
Never Enough: 8
Sacrificed Sons: 8
Octavarium: 10!

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 9.5
Forsaken: 7.5
Constant Motion: 8
The Dark Eternal Night: 4
Repentance: 7.5
Prophets of War: 8
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 8.5

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 8.5
A Rite of Passage: 7.5
Wither: 8
The Shattered Fortress: 8
The Best of Times: 8.5
The Count of Tuscany: 9.5

Haven't listened to enough of WDaDU or the unreleased tracks to rank them.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ResultsMayVary on November 07, 2009, 06:43:35 AM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 8
Status Seeker: 6
Ytse Jam: 8
The Killing Hand: 8
Light Fuse and Get Away: 7
Afterlife: 8
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 7
Only a Matter of Time: 7

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8
Another Day: 7
Take the Time: 9
Surrounded: 7
Metropolis Pt 1: 9
Under a Glass Moon: 9
Wait for Sleep: 3
Learning to Live: 5

~Awake~
6:00: 6
Caught in a Web: 8
Innocence Faded: 7
Erotomania: 9
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 5
The Mirror: 8
Lie: 8
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 2

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millennium: 7
You Not Me: 5
Peruvian Skies: 8
Hollow Years: 5
Burning My Soul: 4
Hell's Kitchen: 9
Lines in the Sand: 10
Take Away My Pain: 6
Just Let Me Breathe: 6
Anna Lee: 0.5
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 2
Overture 1928: 8
Strange déjà vu: 8
Through My Words: 5
Fatal Tragedy: 8
Beyond This Life: 7
Through Her Eyes: 6
Home: 9
The Dance of Eternity: 9
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 8
Finally Free: 5

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 9
Misunderstood: 8
The Great Debate: 9
Disappear: 9
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 8
This Dying Soul: 10
Endless Sacrifice: 8
Honor Thy Father: 9
Vacant: 7
Stream of Consciousness: 8
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 6
These Walls: 9
I Walk Beside You: 6
Panic Attack: 9
Never Enough: 7
Sacrificed Sons: 10
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 8
Forsaken: 7
Constant Motion: 7
The Dark Eternal Night: 9
Repentance: 6
Prophets of War: 6
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 8

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 10
A Rite of Passage: 8
Wither: 7
The Shattered Fortress: 9
The Best of Times: 7
The Count of Tuscany: 9

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 9
Your Majesty: 2
A Vision: 1
Two Far: 7
Vital Star: 2
March of the Tyrant: 1
Don't Look Past Me: 9
To Live Forever: 8
Eve: 0.5
Raise the Knife: 10
Where Are You Now?: 9
The Way It Used to Be: 7
Cover My Eyes: 6
Speak to Me: 3
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 07, 2009, 06:50:26 AM: Wow RMV, you really hate the melancholy songs huh? :lol
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Darkes7 on November 07, 2009, 06:59:53 AM: Quote from: ariich on November 07, 2009, 05:36:28 AM
Darkes7: ACOS. I know this has already been pointed out, but I thought I'd bring it up again to show just how ridiculous it is! :biggrin:
Oh well, when I feel that I've listened to it enough, I'll add the rating to the list. I know it's ridiculous, but... dunno, I've just never tried it. And before joining DTF I hadn't realised so many people consider it so awesome. But well, to the practical observer, it's just a matter of time. :neverusethis:

Quote from: ariich on November 07, 2009, 06:50:26 AM
Wow RMV, you really hate the melancholy songs huh? :lol
Got the same impression :lol and probably it was the opposite for my list, I guess.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 07, 2009, 07:20:02 AM: Quote from: Darkes7 on November 07, 2009, 06:59:53 AM
Quote from: ariich on November 07, 2009, 05:36:28 AM
Darkes7: ACOS. I know this has already been pointed out, but I thought I'd bring it up again to show just how ridiculous it is! :biggrin:
Oh well, when I feel that I've listened to it enough, I'll add the rating to the list. I know it's ridiculous, but... dunno, I've just never tried it. And before joining DTF I hadn't realised so many people consider it so awesome. But well, to the practical observer, it's just a matter of time. :neverusethis:
WHAT
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ZachyDou on November 07, 2009, 07:56:12 AM: ~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 7.5
Another Day: 7.5
Take the Time: 8
Surrounded: 7
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 9
Wait for Sleep: 9
Learning to Live: 6

~Awake~
6:00: 8
Caught in a Web: 8
Innocence Faded: 8.5
Erotomania: 7.5
Voices: 9
The Silent Man: 8
The Mirror: 8
Lie: 8.5
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7.5
Scarred: 1
Space Dye-Vest: 4

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 7
You Not Me: 5
Peruvian Skies: 3
Hollow Years: 8
Burning My Soul: 4
Hell's Kitchen: 7
Lines in the Sand: 10
Take Away My Pain: 6
Just Let Me Breathe: 6
Anna Lee: 3
Trial of Tears: 8.5

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 2
Overture 1928: 8.5
Strange déjà vu: 9
Through My Words: 6
Fatal Tragedy: 8
Beyond This Life: 8
Through Her Eyes: 6
Home: 9
The Dance of Eternity: 9
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 8
Finally Free: 6

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 8
Blind Faith: 7
Misunderstood: 6
The Great Debate: 9.5
Disappear: 7
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 9.5

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 8.5
This Dying Soul: 10
Endless Sacrifice: 9
Honor Thy Father: 9.5
Vacant: 9
Stream of Consciousness: 8.5
In the Name of God: 9.5

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8.5
The Answer Lies Within: 8
These Walls: 9
I Walk Beside You: 8
Panic Attack: 8
Never Enough: 8.5
Sacrificed Sons: 7.5
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 9
Forsaken: 8
Constant Motion: 8
The Dark Eternal Night: 9.5
Repentance: 8.5
Prophets of War: 8
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 8

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9.5
A Rite of Passage: 8
Wither: 7.5
The Shattered Fortress: 9
The Best of Times: 8
The Count of Tuscany: 8.5
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ZKX-2099 on November 07, 2009, 09:30:33 AM: ~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 7
Another Day: 6
Take the Time: 9
Surrounded: 7
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 8
Wait for Sleep: 8
Learning to Live: 9

~Awake~
6:00: 8
Caught in a Web: 7
Innocence Faded: 6
Erotomania: 5
Voices: 7
The Silent Man: 7
The Mirror: 7
Lie: 8
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 6
Scarred: 4
Space Dye-Vest: 8

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 7
You Not Me: 6
Peruvian Skies: 8
Hollow Years: 8
Burning My Soul: 6
Hell's Kitchen: 7
Lines in the Sand: 8
Take Away My Pain: 6
Just Let Me Breathe: 8
Anna Lee: 6
Trial of Tears: 8

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 8
Overture 1928: 8
Strange déjà vu: 7
Through My Words: 7
Fatal Tragedy: 9
Beyond This Life: 8
Through Her Eyes: 9
Home: 10
The Dance of Eternity: 7
One Last Time: 7
The Spirit Carries On: 9
Finally Free: 9

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 12
Blind Faith: 9
Misunderstood: 7
The Great Debate: 10
Disappear: 8
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 8
This Dying Soul: 12
Endless Sacrifice: 9
Honor Thy Father: 8
Vacant: 8
Stream of Consciousness: 10
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 12
The Answer Lies Within: 4
These Walls: 6
I Walk Beside You: 5
Panic Attack: 9
Never Enough: 7
Sacrificed Sons: 9(11)
Octavarium: 85

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 10
Forsaken: 6
Constant Motion: 8
The Dark Eternal Night: 8
Repentance: 12
Prophets of War: 4
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 8

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 10
A Rite of Passage: 9
Wither: 8
The Shattered Fortress: 12
The Best of Times: 10
The Count of Tuscany: 9
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Edan the Man on November 07, 2009, 09:36:05 AM: I smell nuggets in that last post.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: sonatafanica on November 07, 2009, 09:42:18 AM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 4
Status Seeker: 4
Ytse Jam: 7
The Killing Hand: 4
Light Fuse and Get Away: 5
Afterlife: 6
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 4
Only a Matter of Time: 7

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 7
Another Day: 8
Take the Time: 8
Surrounded: 10
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 8
Wait for Sleep: 10
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 8
Caught in a Web: 7
Innocence Faded: 8
Erotomania: 10
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 10
The Mirror: 9
Lie: 9
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 10

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 8

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 6
You Not Me: 2
Peruvian Skies: 6
Hollow Years: 7
Burning My Soul: 2
Hell's Kitchen: 7
Lines in the Sand: 8
Take Away My Pain: 10
Just Let Me Breathe: 1
Anna Lee: 9
Trial of Tears: 9

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 8
Overture 1928: 10
Strange déjà vu: 9
Through My Words: 8
Fatal Tragedy: 9
Beyond This Life: 10
Through Her Eyes: 7
Home: 9
The Dance of Eternity: 8
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 9
Finally Free: 10

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 8
Blind Faith: 10
Misunderstood: 8
The Great Debate: 9
Disappear: 10
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 6
This Dying Soul: 6
Endless Sacrifice: 6
Honor Thy Father: 6
Vacant: 8
Stream of Consciousness: 7
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 8
These Walls: 5
I Walk Beside You: 7
Panic Attack: 7
Never Enough: 6
Sacrificed Sons: 9
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 9
Forsaken: 7
Constant Motion: 6
The Dark Eternal Night: 7
Repentance: 7
Prophets of War: 6
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 9

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 10
A Rite of Passage: 8
Wither: 7
The Shattered Fortress: 7
The Best of Times: 8
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 7
Your Majesty: -
A Vision: -
Two Far: -
Vital Star: -
March of the Tyrant: -
Don't Look Past Me: 4
To Live Forever: 4
Eve: 9
Raise the Knife: 10
Where Are You Now?: 3
The Way It Used to Be: 3
Cover My Eyes: 2
Speak to Me: 5
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 07, 2009, 09:49:39 AM: Quote from: Edan the Man on November 07, 2009, 09:36:05 AM
I smell nuggets in that last post.
:lol Indeed. I've assumed that SS is a 9 and everything higher than 10 is just a 10.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Ouda on November 07, 2009, 09:58:22 AM: My first post in like 2 months.

~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 8.5
Status Seeker: 6
Ytse Jam: 7.5
The Killing Hand: 4
Light Fuse and Get Away: 5
Afterlife: 7
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 3
Only a Matter of Time: 8

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 7
Another Day: 6
Take the Time: 8.5
Surrounded: 7
Metropolis Pt 1: 9.5
Under a Glass Moon: 7.5
Wait for Sleep: 7.5
Learning to Live: 8

~Awake~
6:00: 7
Caught in a Web: 6
Innocence Faded: 7
Erotomania: 5
Voices: 6
The Silent Man: 7
The Mirror: 7.5
Lie: 8
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8
Scarred: 7
Space Dye-Vest: 5

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 9

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 7.5
You Not Me: 6
Peruvian Skies: 7
Hollow Years: 8
Burning My Soul: 3
Hell's Kitchen: 8.5
Lines in the Sand: 7.5
Take Away My Pain: 7
Just Let Me Breathe: 6.5
Anna Lee: 7
Trial of Tears: 9

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 6
Overture 1928: 8
Strange déjà vu: 7
Through My Words: 6
Fatal Tragedy: 8
Beyond This Life: 7
Through Her Eyes: 7
Home: 9
The Dance of Eternity: 6.5
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 9
Finally Free: 8.5

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9.5
Blind Faith: 9
Misunderstood: 7.5
The Great Debate: 10
Disappear: 9
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 7.5

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 8.5
This Dying Soul: 8
Endless Sacrifice: 8.5
Honor Thy Father: 9.5
Vacant: 8
Stream of Consciousness: 9
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 8
These Walls: 8.5
I Walk Beside You: 6
Panic Attack: 9
Never Enough: 9
Sacrificed Sons: 7
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 8
Forsaken: 8.5
Constant Motion: 8.5
The Dark Eternal Night: 9.5
Repentance: 4
Prophets of War: 8
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 9

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9
A Rite of Passage: 8
Wither: 8
The Shattered Fortress: 9
The Best of Times: 7
The Count of Tuscany: 9.5

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 6
Your Majesty: 4
A Vision: 3
Two Far: 3
Vital Star: 3
March of the Tyrant: 3
Don't Look Past Me: 5
To Live Forever: 5.5
Eve: 9.5
Raise the Knife: 9
Where Are You Now?: 6.5
The Way It Used to Be: 6
Cover My Eyes: 7.5
Speak to Me: 7
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Arcaeus on November 07, 2009, 10:07:21 AM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies:
Status Seeker:
Ytse Jam:
The Killing Hand:
Light Fuse and Get Away:
Afterlife: 7
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun:
Only a Matter of Time: 8.5

~Images and Words~ ALBUM SCORE: 9
Pull Me Under: 8.5
Another Day: 8.5
Take the Time: 9.5
Surrounded: 9
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 8.5
Wait for Sleep: 8
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~ ALBUM SCORE: 8.6
6:00: 9
Caught in a Web: 7.5
Innocence Faded: 8.5
Erotomania: 8
Voices: 9.5
The Silent Man: 8
The Mirror: 8.5
Lie: 7.5
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 9
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 9

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~ ALBUM SCORE: 7.6
New Millenium: 7.5
You Not Me: 5
Peruvian Skies: 7
Hollow Years: 8
Burning My Soul: 6.5
Hell's Kitchen: 8.5
Lines in the Sand: 9.5
Take Away My Pain: 6
Just Let Me Breathe: 7
Anna Lee: 9
Trial of Tears: 9.5

~Scenes From a Memory~ ALBUM SCORE: 8
Regression: 7.5
Overture 1928: 8.5
Strange déjà vu: 9
Through My Words: 4
Fatal Tragedy: 8.5
Beyond This Life: 7
Through Her Eyes: 8
Home: 9.5
The Dance of Eternity: 9
One Last Time: 8.5
The Spirit Carries On: 7.5
Finally Free: 9.5

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~ ALBUM SCORE: 8.3
The Glass Prison: 9.5
Blind Faith: 6.5
Misunderstood: 7.5
The Great Debate: 8
Disappear: 9
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 9.5

~Train of Thought~ ALBUM SCORE: 8.1
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 7.5
Endless Sacrifice: 8.5
Honor Thy Father: 8
Vacant: 8
Stream of Consciousness: 9
In the Name of God: 9

~Octavarium~ ALBUM SCORE: 7.6
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 6
These Walls: 7.5
I Walk Beside You: 7
Panic Attack: 8
Never Enough: 6.5
Sacrificed Sons: 8.5
Octavarium: 9.5

~Systematic Chaos~ ALBUM SCORE: 6.2
In The Presence of Enemies: 8
Forsaken: 4
Constant Motion: 5
The Dark Eternal Night: 7.5
Repentance: 7
Prophets of War: 6
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 6.5

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~ ALBUM SCORE: 8.4
A Nightmare to Remember: 8.5 (nearly worthy of a 9.5, but it drags on 2-3 minutes longer than it really should)
A Rite of Passage: 6.5
Wither: 8.5
The Shattered Fortress: 9
The Best of Times: 8.5
The Count of Tuscany: 9.5

I've never heard any of the unreleased songs, ever.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: robwebster on November 07, 2009, 10:11:36 AM: Quote from: Arcaeus on November 07, 2009, 10:07:21 AM
I've never heard any of the unreleased songs, ever.
Ah you've got so much to learn!

Some WONDERFUL stuff there, some of it better than the stuff that made it to the albums.

Cover My Eyes, Raise The Knife and Don't Look Past Me all deserve better than B-Side status. (Even if Don't Look Past Me has far too many samples :p)

You need to cram a bit of Fortune in Lies down yer neck, too! You've got 4000 posts and you've not heard Fortune - travesty!

If you like Only a Matter of Time that much, you'll like AFIL too.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Darkes7 on November 07, 2009, 10:13:30 AM: Btw, those songs are all Majesty demos and Falling Into Infinity demos, or there are also some other ones there?
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: robwebster on November 07, 2009, 10:14:45 AM: Quote from: Darkes7 on November 07, 2009, 10:13:30 AM
Btw, those songs are all Majesty demos and Falling Into Infinity demos, or there are also some other ones there?
To Live Forever was written in the Dream and Day era (I think?) but there's an IAW version and I thiiiiink an extended Awake version, Don't Look Past Me is Images and Words era, Eve is Awake era.

Think of it this way, Images and Words is probably the least controversial album in its shining brilliance, and yet there are two secret songs from it that you've never heard! Imagine that! There's absolutely no excuse not to go off and find them right now. :D
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Darkes7 on November 07, 2009, 10:17:22 AM: Oh, right... Eve was on a single IIRC, but where can I find the rest?
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: robwebster on November 07, 2009, 10:20:39 AM: To Live Forever is on the Greatest Hit album.

Don't Look Past Me... crikey, I can't remember. I just changed the album field to "Images and Words B-Sides" in my iTunes. Gimme a sec, I'll get there! I think there's a version on the IAW demos, but it's probably not the proper studio version with all the bells and whistles.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 07, 2009, 10:35:45 AM: The Majesty Demos and FII Demos are on YtseJamRecords (official bootlegs), and Don't Look Past Me and To Live Forever are on the I&W Demos as well.

Dunno about Eve, it was on a single originally and is also on the Fan Club CD "Cleaning Out The Closet", but you'd only find either of those on eBay.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: j on November 07, 2009, 11:05:09 AM: Quote from: Darkes7 on November 07, 2009, 01:58:03 AM
I knew someone would notice that and apparently I have to confess to something terrible. :blush

...I'll fix it soon, I promise.

:omg:

Darkes, this is by far your worst offense ever.

How could you keep this from me for so long? :( I feel like I don't even know you.

Quote from: Scurvy!Dreams on November 06, 2009, 10:17:22 PM
I thought the scale was 1 to 10. *shrugs*

Yeah but against what are they being compared? Just the rest of DT's work? Or everything in the musical universe?

For example, Prophets of War is probably DT's worst song, but it isn't the worst song ever recorded. If I were ranking it only in terms of what DT have done, I'd give it a 0, 'cause I think it's one of a couple low points of their career. But nothing DT has recorded would ever come close to being one of the worst songs EVER, IMO.

-J
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 07, 2009, 11:25:09 AM: Just rate it however you want to. I tend to rate in absolute terms, rather than relative, so my lowest rating is a 3 here because nothing DT have done come close to being terrible enough for a 0.5.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Darkes7 on November 07, 2009, 11:42:04 AM: Thanks ariich and robwebster, I'll have a look around. I've already been considering getting FII demos for a while, will also think about the rest.

Quote from: j on November 07, 2009, 11:05:09 AM
Quote from: Darkes7 on November 07, 2009, 01:58:03 AM
I knew someone would notice that and apparently I have to confess to something terrible. :blush

...I'll fix it soon, I promise.

:omg:

Darkes, this is by far your worst offense ever.

How could you keep this from me for so long? :( I feel like I don't even know you.
I'd never mentioned that simply because I knew what the reaction would be.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Nick on November 07, 2009, 12:16:18 PM: God bless you for attempting this Rich.

I'll post mine in a day or five when I have the time to do the whole list.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: energythief on November 07, 2009, 12:42:39 PM: Quote from: ariich on November 07, 2009, 11:25:09 AM
Just rate it however you want to. I tend to rate in absolute terms, rather than relative, so my lowest rating is a 3 here because nothing DT have done come close to being terrible enough for a 0.5.

That's what I did too. Nothing DT has done ranks below a "2" to me.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Enos on November 07, 2009, 01:05:15 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 6.5
Status Seeker: 2
Ytse Jam: 7
The Killing Hand: 5.5
Light Fuse and Get Away: 3
Afterlife: 7
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 1.5
Only a Matter of Time: 5

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8
Another Day: 7
Take the Time: 10
Surrounded: 7
Metropolis Pt 1: 9
Under a Glass Moon: 5
Wait for Sleep: 8
Learning to Live: 3

~Awake~
6:00: 7.5
Caught in a Web: 7.5
Innocence Faded: 5
Erotomania: 8
Voices: 9.5
The Silent Man: 5
The Mirror: 8
Lie: 8
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 9.5
Scarred: 6
Space Dye-Vest: 10

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 8.5

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 7
You Not Me: 0.5
Peruvian Skies: 3
Hollow Years: 5
Burning My Soul: 1
Hell's Kitchen: 4
Lines in the Sand: 6.5
Take Away My Pain: 1
Just Let Me Breathe: 7
Anna Lee: 3
Trial of Tears: 7

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression:
Overture 1928: 7
Strange déjà vu: 7
Through My Words:
Fatal Tragedy: 7.5
Beyond This Life: 8.5
Through Her Eyes: 4
Home: 10
The Dance of Eternity: 9
One Last Time: 5
The Spirit Carries On: 8
Finally Free: 8

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 9.5
Misunderstood: 8
The Great Debate: 7
Disappear: 7
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 8

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 8.5
This Dying Soul: 5
Endless Sacrifice: 4
Honor Thy Father: 8
Vacant: 7.5
Stream of Consciousness: 7
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 9.5
The Answer Lies Within: 0.5
These Walls: 4
I Walk Beside You: 1
Panic Attack: 8.5
Never Enough: 7
Sacrificed Sons: 7
Octavarium: 9

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 8.5
Forsaken: 6.5
Constant Motion: 8.5
The Dark Eternal Night: 8.5
Repentance: 3
Prophets of War: 4
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 8

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9
A Rite of Passage: 8
Wither: 7.5
The Shattered Fortress: 8.5
The Best of Times: 10
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 6
Your Majesty:
A Vision:
Two Far:
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me: 5
To Live Forever:
Eve: 7
Raise the Knife: 7.5
Where Are You Now?:
The Way It Used to Be:
Cover My Eyes: 4
Speak to Me: 6
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on November 07, 2009, 01:09:51 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 7
Status Seeker: 6
Ytse Jam: 7
The Killing Hand: 7
Light Fuse and Get Away: 7
Afterlife: 6
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 7
Only a Matter of Time: 8

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 10
Another Day: 7
Take the Time: 10
Surrounded: 10
Metropolis Pt 1: 9
Under a Glass Moon: 7
Wait for Sleep: 8
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 8
Caught in a Web: 8
Innocence Faded: 7
Erotomania: 8
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 9
The Mirror: 8
Lie: 7
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 9
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 10

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 9

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8
You Not Me: 5
Peruvian Skies: 8
Hollow Years: 8
Burning My Soul: 3
Hell's Kitchen: 9
Lines in the Sand: 10
Take Away My Pain: 4
Just Let Me Breathe: 6
Anna Lee: 8
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: --
Overture 1928: 8
Strange déjà vu: 8
Through My Words: --
Fatal Tragedy: 9
Beyond This Life: 5
Through Her Eyes: 5
Home: 8
The Dance of Eternity: 6
One Last Time: 9
The Spirit Carries On: 8
Finally Free: 9

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9
Blind Faith: 9
Misunderstood: 7
The Great Debate: 4
Disappear: 8
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 8

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 3
Endless Sacrifice: 4
Honor Thy Father: 3
Vacant: 8
Stream of Consciousness: 8
In the Name of God: 6

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 9
The Answer Lies Within: 5
These Walls: 7
I Walk Beside You: 6
Panic Attack: 5
Never Enough: 2
Sacrificed Sons: 5
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 4
Forsaken: 3
Constant Motion: 3
The Dark Eternal Night: 3
Repentance: 5
Prophets of War: 4
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 3

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 5
A Rite of Passage: 4
Wither: 5
The Shattered Fortress: 7
The Best of Times: 4
The Count of Tuscany: 7

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 9 (Score)
Your Majesty:
A Vision:
Two Far:
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me:
To Live Forever: 9
Eve: 9
Raise the Knife: 9 (Score)
Where Are You Now?:
The Way It Used to Be: 7
Cover My Eyes: 7
Speak to Me: 8
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Keytard on November 07, 2009, 02:21:55 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 0
Status Seeker: 0
Ytse Jam: 0.1
The Killing Hand: 0
Light Fuse and Get Away: 0
Afterlife: 0
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 0
Only a Matter of Time: 0.5

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8
Another Day: 7
Take the Time: 10
Surrounded: 3
Metropolis Pt 1: 7
Under a Glass Moon: 9
Wait for Sleep: 10
Learning to Live: 6

~Awake~
6:00: 7
Caught in a Web: 8
Innocence Faded: 2
Erotomania: 8
Voices: 5
The Silent Man: 9
The Mirror: 9
Lie: 8
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 1
Scarred: 3
Space Dye-Vest: 11

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 7

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 7
You Not Me: 2
Peruvian Skies: 2
Hollow Years: 9
Burning My Soul: 8
Hell's Kitchen: 9.5
Lines in the Sand: 9.5
Take Away My Pain: 4
Just Let Me Breathe: 10
Anna Lee: 2
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 0
Overture 1928: 7
Strange déjà vu: 9
Through My Words: 9
Fatal Tragedy: 10
Beyond This Life: 8
Through Her Eyes:4
Home: 9
The Dance of Eternity: 10
One Last Time: 3
The Spirit Carries On: 6
Finally Free: 2

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison:8
Blind Faith: 9
Misunderstood: 10
The Great Debate: 8
Disappear: 11
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 4

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 8
Endless Sacrifice: 6
Honor Thy Father: 7
Vacant: 10
Stream of Consciousness: 7
In the Name of God: 9

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 9
The Answer Lies Within: 3
These Walls: 10
I Walk Beside You: 1
Panic Attack: 7
Never Enough: 10
Sacrificed Sons: 10
Octavarium: 7

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 8
Forsaken: 7
Constant Motion: 6
The Dark Eternal Night: 8
Repentance: 6
Prophets of War: 3
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 4

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 7
A Rite of Passage: 8
Wither: 9
The Shattered Fortress: 10
The Best of Times: -1 Googlplex
The Count of Tuscany: 6
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: orcus116 on November 07, 2009, 02:26:43 PM: When Dream And Day Unite is my favorite album as well.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Darkes7 on November 07, 2009, 02:42:06 PM: I'd comment on the above list... but I'm trying to be tolerant. :P
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: orcus116 on November 07, 2009, 02:43:39 PM: Easily the most erratic list.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: j on November 07, 2009, 03:03:50 PM: That's one extreme list, Keytard. :metal It took me for a roller coaster ride of emotions.

-J
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Arcaeus on November 07, 2009, 04:07:29 PM: Quote from: Keytard on November 07, 2009, 02:21:55 PM
A Fortune in Lies: 0
Status Seeker: 0
Ytse Jam: 0.1
The Killing Hand: 0
Light Fuse and Get Away: 0
Afterlife: 0
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 0
Only a Matter of Time: 0.5

Surrounded: 3
Learning to Live: 6

Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 1
Scarred: 3

Anna Lee: 2

Finally Free: 2

Never Enough: 10

The Best of Times: -1 Googlplex

Whoa, wtf at these, especially bolded. To each his own, though, and an interesting list for sure.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ReaPsTA on November 07, 2009, 04:24:56 PM: I'll finish this a bit later.

~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies:
Status Seeker:
Ytse Jam:
The Killing Hand:
Light Fuse and Get Away:
Afterlife:
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun:
Only a Matter of Time:

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 10
Another Day: 8
Take the Time: 10
Surrounded: 8
Metropolis Pt 1: 8
Under a Glass Moon: 9
Wait for Sleep: 8
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 8
Caught in a Web: 8
Innocence Faded: 8
Erotomania: 8
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 8
The Mirror: 9
Lie: 9
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 9
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 9

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8
You Not Me: 3
Peruvian Skies: 9
Hollow Years: 9
Burning My Soul: 4
Hell's Kitchen: 9
Lines in the Sand: 10
Take Away My Pain: 5
Just Let Me Breathe: 7
Anna Lee:
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression:
Overture 1928: 9
Strange déjà vu:
Through My Words:
Fatal Tragedy:
Beyond This Life:
Through Her Eyes:
Home: 9
The Dance of Eternity: 8
One Last Time: 9
The Spirit Carries On:
Finally Free:

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9
Blind Faith: 9
Misunderstood: 5
The Great Debate: 3
Disappear: 9
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 7

~Train of Thought~
As I Am:
This Dying Soul:
Endless Sacrifice:
Honor Thy Father:
Vacant:
Stream of Consciousness: 9
In the Name of God:

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil:
The Answer Lies Within:
These Walls:
I Walk Beside You:
Panic Attack:
Never Enough:
Sacrificed Sons:
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 7
Forsaken: 9
Constant Motion: 6
The Dark Eternal Night: 5
Repentance: 8
Prophets of War: 2
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 9

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 7
A Rite of Passage: 7
Wither: 9
The Shattered Fortress: 9
The Best of Times: 7
The Count of Tuscany: 9

~Unreleased~
Another Won:
Your Majesty:
A Vision:
Two Far:
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me: 9
To Live Forever: 9
Eve: 8
Raise the Knife: 10
Where Are You Now?:
The Way It Used to Be: 8
Cover My Eyes: 8
Speak to Me: 9
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: SeRoX on November 07, 2009, 04:33:19 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 7
Status Seeker: 4
Ytse Jam: 6
The Killing Hand: 10
Light Fuse and Get Away: 3
Afterlife: 7
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 7
Only a Matter of Time: 8

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8
Another Day: 8
Take the Time: 9
Surrounded: 8
Metropolis Pt 1: 9
Under a Glass Moon: 8
Wait for Sleep: 7
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 6
Caught in a Web: 9
Innocence Faded: 8
Erotomania: 8
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 5
The Mirror: 9
Lie: 6
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 3

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 6
You Not Me: 2
Peruvian Skies: 9
Hollow Years: 8
Burning My Soul: 4
Hell's Kitchen: 4
Lines in the Sand: 10
Take Away My Pain: 6
Just Let Me Breathe: 3
Anna Lee: 7
Trial of Tears: 9

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 6
Overture 1928: 6
Strange déjà vu: 7
Through My Words: 6
Fatal Tragedy: 7
Beyond This Life: 2
Through Her Eyes: 7
Home: 9
The Dance of Eternity: 3
One Last Time: 9
The Spirit Carries On: 8
Finally Free: 10

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9
Blind Faith: 8
Misunderstood: 6
The Great Debate: 7
Disappear: 10
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 9

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 4
Endless Sacrifice: 4
Honor Thy Father: 4
Vacant: 7
Stream of Consciousness: 3
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 7
The Answer Lies Within: 6
These Wall: 6
I Walk Beside You: 5
Panic Attack: 6
Never Enough: 6
Sacrificed Sons:9
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 8
Forsaken: 5
Constant Motion: 3
The Dark Eternal Night: 1
Repentance: 6
Prophets of War: 5
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 7

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 8
A Rite of Passage: 4
Wither: 7
The Shattered Fortress: 9
The Best of Times: 3
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 9
Your Majesty: 4
A Vision: 3
Two Far: 5
Vital Star: 6
March of the Tyrant: 4
Don't Look Past Me: 7
To Live Forever: 10
Eve: 9
Raise the Knife: 9
Where Are You Now?: 7
The Way It Used to Be: 8
Cover My Eyes: 6
Speak to Me: 10
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 07, 2009, 04:48:39 PM: Quote from: orcus116 on November 07, 2009, 02:26:43 PM
When Dream And Day Unite is my favorite album as well.
:lol

I have to say, his list threw me a little as well. My reactions while reading through went something like this: "I... just... er... :lol".

By the way, I'm trying to decide what to do about ratings where people have specified that it's based on a live version (WDADRU, Score versions of Another Won and RTK, possibly others). So far I've been excluding them as the majority of songs will have all their votes based on studio versions, but it occurs to me that quite a few people voting (especially for those two songs on Score) may well have only heard the live versions and so are still voting on those. In which case, do we reckon those votes should be included?
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: changing_seasons on November 07, 2009, 06:11:20 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 6
Status Seeker: 7
Ytse Jam: 8
The Killing Hand: 10
Light Fuse and Get Away: 9
Afterlife: 7
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 8
Only a Matter of Time: 9

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8
Another Day: 8
Take the Time: 10
Surrounded: 6
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 9
Wait for Sleep: 9
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 7
Caught in a Web: 6
Innocence Faded: 9
Erotomania: 9
Voices: 9
The Silent Man: 6
The Mirror: 6
Lie: 6
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7
Scarred: 9
Space Dye-Vest: 3

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 7
You Not Me: 6
Peruvian Skies: 6
Hollow Years: 4
Burning My Soul: 4
Hell's Kitchen: 9
Lines in the Sand: 9
Take Away My Pain: 8
Just Let Me Breathe: 6
Anna Lee: 7
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 4
Overture 1928: 9
Strange déjà vu: 8
Through My Words: 5
Fatal Tragedy: 8
Beyond This Life: 9
Through Her Eyes: 7
Home: 8
The Dance of Eternity: 9
One Last Time: 7
The Spirit Carries On: 10
Finally Free: 9

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9
Blind Faith: 10
Misunderstood: 6
The Great Debate: 8
Disappear: 6
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 9
Endless Sacrifice: 8
Honor Thy Father: 8
Vacant: 7
Stream of Consciousness: 9
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 7
These Walls: 10
I Walk Beside You: 8
Panic Attack: 6
Never Enough: 8
Sacrificed Sons: 7
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 10
Forsaken: 10
Constant Motion: 7
The Dark Eternal Night: 8
Repentance: 6
Prophets of War: 6
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 10

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9
A Rite of Passage: 7
Wither: 10
The Shattered Fortress: 9
The Best of Times: 10
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 9
To Live Forever: 8
Raise the Knife: 9
Where Are You Now?: 7
The Way It Used to Be: 7
Cover My Eyes: 7
Speak to Me: 7
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: changing_seasons on November 07, 2009, 06:14:42 PM: Btw, aren't there websites that let you make surveys like this? There should be.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Scurvy!Dreams on November 07, 2009, 06:19:47 PM: Quote from: ariich on November 07, 2009, 04:48:39 PM
By the way, I'm trying to decide what to do about ratings where people have specified that it's based on a live version (WDADRU, Score versions of Another Won and RTK, possibly others). So far I've been excluding them as the majority of songs will have all their votes based on studio versions, but it occurs to me that quite a few people voting (especially for those two songs on Score) may well have only heard the live versions and so are still voting on those. In which case, do we reckon those votes should be included?
As long as the music isn't significantly different, I say count them. AFAIK the ones you specifically mentioned aren't too different except for the vocals.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Portrucci on November 07, 2009, 06:23:52 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 7
Status Seeker: 6
Ytse Jam: 7
The Killing Hand: 7
Light Fuse and Get Away: 5
Afterlife: 7
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 5
Only a Matter of Time: 6

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8
Another Day: 7
Take the Time: 9
Surrounded: 8
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 8
Wait for Sleep: 7
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 8
Caught in a Web: 7
Innocence Faded: 10
Erotomania: 10
Voices: 9
The Silent Man: 7
The Mirror: 9
Lie: 8
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 9

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8
You Not Me: 5
Peruvian Skies: 7
Hollow Years: 6
Burning My Soul: 6
Hell's Kitchen: 8
Lines in the Sand: 9
Take Away My Pain: 5
Just Let Me Breathe: 4
Anna Lee: 4
Trial of Tears: 9

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 4
Overture 1928: 7
Strange déjà vu: 7
Through My Words: 6
Fatal Tragedy: 10
Beyond This Life: 8
Through Her Eyes: 6
Home: 8
The Dance of Eternity: 10
One Last Time: 7
The Spirit Carries On: 7
Finally Free: 4

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 7
Misunderstood: 8
The Great Debate: 7
Disappear: 7
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 8

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 6
This Dying Soul: 7
Endless Sacrifice: 6
Honor Thy Father: 9
Vacant: 8
Stream of Consciousness: 8
In the Name of God: 9

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 7
The Answer Lies Within: 5
These Walls: 5
I Walk Beside You: 4
Panic Attack: 7
Never Enough: 5
Sacrificed Sons: 5
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 6
Forsaken: 5
Constant Motion: 7
The Dark Eternal Night: 7
Repentance: 6
Prophets of War: 6
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 6

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 10
A Rite of Passage: 6
Wither: 7
The Shattered Fortress: 8
The Best of Times: 7
The Count of Tuscany: 9

~Unreleased~
Another Won:
Your Majesty:
A Vision:
Two Far:
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me:
To Live Forever:
Eve:
Raise the Knife:
Where Are You Now?:
The Way It Used to Be:
Cover My Eyes:
Speak to Me:
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: j on November 07, 2009, 07:45:05 PM: Quote from: Scurvy!Dreams on November 07, 2009, 06:19:47 PM
Quote from: ariich on November 07, 2009, 04:48:39 PM
By the way, I'm trying to decide what to do about ratings where people have specified that it's based on a live version (WDADRU, Score versions of Another Won and RTK, possibly others). So far I've been excluding them as the majority of songs will have all their votes based on studio versions, but it occurs to me that quite a few people voting (especially for those two songs on Score) may well have only heard the live versions and so are still voting on those. In which case, do we reckon those votes should be included?
As long as the music isn't significantly different, I say count them. AFAIK the ones you specifically mentioned aren't too different except for the vocals.

Yeah but half the reason people rate WDADU so poorly is because of the vocals.

-J
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Scurvy!Dreams on November 07, 2009, 08:18:19 PM: If the only thing that changes is the voice and that makes people like it more, I think that means the songs are good.

Edit: I updated my ratings, and followed TOX's lead and removed ratings for Regression and Through My Words. Then I calculated an average score for every album, for those who are curious. And who wouldn't be!?
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: setrataeso on November 07, 2009, 08:47:25 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 8
Status Seeker: 5.5
Ytse Jam: 8
The Killing Hand: 4
Light Fuse and Get Away: 7
Afterlife: 8
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 6.5
Only a Matter of Time: 9

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 6
Another Day: 6.5
Take the Time: 9
Surrounded: 8.5
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 8.5
Wait for Sleep: 8.5
Learning to Live: 7

~Awake~
6:00: 9
Caught in a Web: 6
Innocence Faded: 8.5
Erotomania: 7
Voices: 8.5
The Silent Man: 7
The Mirror: 7.5
Lie: 6
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7.5
Scarred: 0
Space Dye-Vest: 7.5

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 8.5

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8.5
You Not Me: 4
Peruvian Skies: 5
Hollow Years: 7.5
Burning My Soul: 6
Hell's Kitchen: 7.5
Lines in the Sand: 9.5
Take Away My Pain: 7.5
Just Let Me Breathe: 7.5
Anna Lee: 6.5
Trial of Tears: 8

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 1
Overture 1928: 7.5
Strange déjà vu: 8.5
Through My Words: 2
Fatal Tragedy: 9
Beyond This Life: 8
Through Her Eyes: 5.5
Home: 9
The Dance of Eternity: 8
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 6
Finally Free: 9.5

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 8.5
Blind Faith: 8.5
Misunderstood: 5.5
The Great Debate: 10
Disappear: 7.5
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 9

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 6
This Dying Soul: 7
Endless Sacrifice: 8.5
Honor Thy Father: 8
Vacant: 6.5
Stream of Consciousness: 7
In the Name of God: 9

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 9
The Answer Lies Within: 8
These Walls: 6.5
I Walk Beside You: 6.5
Panic Attack: 8.5
Never Enough: 7.5
Sacrificed Sons: 6.5
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 9
Forsaken: 8
Constant Motion: 8
The Dark Eternal Night: 8.5
Repentance: 5.5
Prophets of War: 6.5
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 6.5

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9
A Rite of Passage: 8.5
Wither: 7.5
The Shattered Fortress: 9
The Best of Times: 6
The Count of Tuscany: 6

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 7.5
Your Majesty: 5
A Vision: 2
Two Far: 4
Vital Star: 3
March of the Tyrant: 5.5
Don't Look Past Me: 7.5
To Live Forever: 7
Eve: 7
Raise the Knife: 5.5
Where Are You Now?: 8
The Way It Used to Be: 6
Cover My Eyes: 7.5
Speak to Me: 8.5
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 07, 2009, 08:48:07 PM: Quote from: Scurvy!Dreams on November 07, 2009, 06:19:47 PM
Quote from: ariich on November 07, 2009, 04:48:39 PM
By the way, I'm trying to decide what to do about ratings where people have specified that it's based on a live version (WDADRU, Score versions of Another Won and RTK, possibly others). So far I've been excluding them as the majority of songs will have all their votes based on studio versions, but it occurs to me that quite a few people voting (especially for those two songs on Score) may well have only heard the live versions and so are still voting on those. In which case, do we reckon those votes should be included?
As long as the music isn't significantly different, I say count them. AFAIK the ones you specifically mentioned aren't too different except for the vocals.

Yeah, I think it should mostly count. While there are some differences, in general they're close enough to just count them.
The only song where I consider the live version different enough to affect my score is The Killing Hand, but I judged it from the studio version.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: setrataeso on November 08, 2009, 12:14:23 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 07, 2009, 05:47:43 AM
Quote from: Global Laziness on November 06, 2009, 10:03:14 PM
Oh come on Blob, how can you give any song a zero? You mean to say that all those songs have absolutely no redeeming qualities whatsoever? That's just ridiculous.

Not really. If after repeated listens over the many years I've been a fan, I still cannot recall a song, or bear to listen to it in anyway, then I give it a zero. Maybe I should upgrade Scarred to a 1 for the intro, but in reality, when it's all averaged out, the difference between a 1 and a 0 makes little difference.

I'm with Blob.
Scarred actually makes me a worse person inside when I listen to it. If I could give it a negative number I would.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: orcus116 on November 08, 2009, 01:10:04 AM: You're that guy who hangs with 'cool guys' who gets ignored by them but simultaneously reiterates their opinions a little more extreme in the hopes to gain their respect aren't you?
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 08, 2009, 02:08:32 AM: Or maybe he's someone who agrees with me, and also has a sense of humour.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 08, 2009, 05:19:37 AM: Quote from: Scurvy!Dreams on November 07, 2009, 08:18:19 PM
If the only thing that changes is the voice and that makes people like it more, I think that means the songs are good.
Yeah I think I agree. I've heard all the studio versions so I've rated based on those, but at the same time, my opinion of songs has been influenced by seeing them live, which is a pretty similar effect really.

Quote from: setrataeso on November 07, 2009, 08:47:25 PM
The Silent Man:
Just want to check, did you mean to not rate just that one song?
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: emindead on November 08, 2009, 07:07:26 AM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 6
Status Seeker: -
Ytse Jam: 7
The Killing Hand: 8
Light Fuse and Get Away: 6.4
Afterlife: 6.5
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: -
Only a Matter of Time: 8.5

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8.5
Another Day: 10
Take the Time: 10
Surrounded: 9
Metropolis Pt 1: 7.5
Under a Glass Moon: 7
Wait for Sleep: 8.5
Learning to Live: 10+++

~Awake~
6:00: 8
Caught in a Web: 7.5
Innocence Faded: 7
Erotomania: 7
Voices: 9.5
The Silent Man: 8.5
The Mirror: 8.5
Lie: 8
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 9
Scarred: 7
Space Dye-Vest: 9.4

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 6
You Not Me: 2
Peruvian Skies: 6
Hollow Years: 8.5
Burning My Soul: 3
Hell's Kitchen: 5
Lines in the Sand: 8.7
Take Away My Pain: 7.6
Just Let Me Breathe: 2
Anna Lee: 8.4
Trial of Tears: 9

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: -
Overture 1928: 7
Strange déjà vu: 8.5
Through My Words: 8
Fatal Tragedy: 10
Beyond This Life: 8
Through Her Eyes: 10
Home: 10
The Dance of Eternity: 7
One Last Time: 9
The Spirit Carries On: 8.5
Finally Free: 9.5

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 4
Blind Faith: 4
Misunderstood: 4
The Great Debate: 3
Disappear: 9
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 8.5

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 8
This Dying Soul: 3
Endless Sacrifice: 9
Honor Thy Father: 10
Vacant: 8.4
Stream of Consciousness: 8.6
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 6
The Answer Lies Within: 5
These Walls: 7
I Walk Beside You: 9
Panic Attack: 8.3
Never Enough: 4
Sacrificed Sons: 6
Octavarium: 9.5

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 7.5
Forsaken: 7
Constant Motion: 4
The Dark Eternal Night: 1
Repentance: 7
Prophets of War: 5
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 6

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9
A Rite of Passage: 7
Wither: 10
The Shattered Fortress: 1
The Best of Times: 9.5
The Count of Tuscany: 9.8

~Unreleased~
Another Won: -
Your Majesty: -
A Vision: -
Two Far: -
Vital Star: -
March of the Tyrant: -
Don't Look Past Me: 7.9
To Live Forever: 8.6
Eve: 9
Raise the Knife: 1
Where Are You Now?: -
The Way It Used to Be: -
Cover My Eyes: 9.5
Speak to Me: 9.5
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 08, 2009, 07:07:45 AM: Quote from: Keytard on November 07, 2009, 02:21:55 PM
The Best of Times: -1 Googlplex
Well, that's just ridiculous.

EDIT: Edited for civility.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: orcus116 on November 08, 2009, 07:12:53 AM: I've got to be the only one who actually really likes that song musically.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 08, 2009, 07:17:00 AM: Quote from: orcus116 on November 08, 2009, 07:12:53 AM
I've got to be the only one who actually really likes that song musically.
The Best of Times? No, I think it's great.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 08, 2009, 07:18:07 AM: Quote from: orcus116 on November 08, 2009, 07:12:53 AM
I've got to be the only one who actually really likes that song musically.
Nope, I think it's great as well, and so far out of 37 ratings it's average is 7.30, so it's obviously reasonably well liked. Although it has by a long way the highest standard deviation (or variance, or whatever) from BC&SL, so opinions are clearly very split.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on November 08, 2009, 07:19:26 AM: It's probably an insensitive thing to say, but it sounds too sappy for me both musically and lyrically. I can totally understand why, and I don't doubt I'll give it a listen in many years time when my father enters his final years, but right now, it's a little much for me to handle.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 08, 2009, 07:20:55 AM: Wow emin, I'm pretty amazed at some of your ratings. Particularly The Glass Prison! 4/10?!
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 08, 2009, 07:23:40 AM: Quote from: ariich on November 08, 2009, 07:20:55 AM
Wow emin, I'm pretty amazed at some of your ratings. Particularly The Glass Prison! 4/10?!

KILL THE HERETIC!!!
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 08, 2009, 07:27:22 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 08, 2009, 07:23:40 AM
Quote from: ariich on November 08, 2009, 07:20:55 AM
Wow emin, I'm pretty amazed at some of your ratings. Particularly The Glass Prison! 4/10?!

KILL THE HERETIC!!!
:lol Exactly. Seriously, the lowest rating it had previously was an 8! I thought it was probably DT's most universally liked song (and for good reason), but emin has ruined that with his silly opinions.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: setrataeso on November 08, 2009, 09:47:46 AM: Quote from: orcus116 on November 08, 2009, 01:10:04 AM
You're that guy who hangs with 'cool guys' who gets ignored by them but simultaneously reiterates their opinions a little more extreme in the hopes to gain their respect aren't you?

No, I'm the guy who hates Scarred with a passion, and Blob happens to always be the most vocal about his dislike for the song. He also gets a ton of backlash for that, so I feel compelled to tell him I agree with him.

I find it pretty insulting that you think I'm "uncool" and that I seek the approval of those bigger than me to fulfill my opinions.
Quote from: ariich on November 08, 2009, 05:19:37 AM
Quote from: setrataeso on November 07, 2009, 08:47:25 PM
The Silent Man:
Just want to check, did you mean to not rate just that one song?

Sorry ariich. I'll fix that up.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Darkes7 on November 08, 2009, 10:11:19 AM: Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 08, 2009, 07:17:00 AM
Quote from: orcus116 on November 08, 2009, 07:12:53 AM
I've got to be the only one who actually really likes that song musically.
The Best of Times? No, I think it's great.
I also like it a lot, mainly because how different and unique it is.

As for emindead's ratings, I disagree with many of them, but I can see some reasoning there, instead of giving random 0s to a bunch of songs or even whole albums.

Btw, ariich, do you mind if I change my ratings quite a bit? I feel I need to lower them a bit, especially that I put like ten 10 ratings I think...
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: EmilSumm on November 08, 2009, 10:20:13 AM: Quote from: Scurvy!Dreams on November 07, 2009, 08:18:19 PM
Then I calculated an average score for every album, for those who are curious. And who wouldn't be!?

I did the same thing:

BC&SL: 8.75
Awake: 8.73
I&W: 8.62
SC: 7.21
SDOIT: 7.08
TOT: 6.86
8V: 6.44
SFAM: 6.04
FII: 5.36
WDADU: 4,25

And then I looked at the album ranking I posted a few months ago:

Quote from: EmilSumm on September 04, 2009, 06:43:17 PM
1. Awake
2. Black Clouds & Silver Linings
3. Images & Words
4. Train Of Thought
5. Systematic Chaos
6. Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence
7. Scenes From a Memory
8. Octavarium
9. Falling Into Infinity
10. When Dream And Day Unite

It was interesting, because I thought album perceptions as a whole would make bigger differences between both lists. But they turned to be pretty similar.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 08, 2009, 10:21:23 AM: @Darkes: You can if you like, though you shouldn't feel any obligation to lower your ratings. I most have higher ratings, some people have more than I do, and some have very few. If you think a song deserves 10/10, give it 10/10.

If you only change a handful then can you just post the changes here? If it's most songs then I'll just re-add your whole thing.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: sonatafanica on November 08, 2009, 10:22:49 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 08, 2009, 07:23:40 AM
Quote from: ariich on November 08, 2009, 07:20:55 AM
Wow emin, I'm pretty amazed at some of your ratings. Particularly The Glass Prison! 4/10?!

KILL THE HERETIC!!!

*kills Blob*
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: orcus116 on November 08, 2009, 10:24:13 AM: I'm surprised Black Clouds is so high. It's almost like it got an extra point or so solely because it was an improvement over SC. I'm guessing it'll jump down 2 or 3 rankings after some time has passed.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 08, 2009, 10:27:05 AM: Quote from: orcus116 on November 08, 2009, 10:24:13 AM
I'm surprised Black Clouds is so high. It's almost like it got an extra point or so solely because it was an improvement over SC. I'm guessing it'll jump down 2 or 3 rankings after some time has passed.
I dunno, my enjoyment of it has stayed extremely high each time I go back and listen to it (listening right now actually for the first time in maybe a month or so). It's an album that may not have done much out of the ordinary but really is very very solid and just has great songs throughout. Obviously it won't appeal to everybody, but to those it does appeal to, I think it'll have a lot of staying power.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Scurvy!Dreams on November 08, 2009, 10:37:00 AM: Quote from: orcus116 on November 08, 2009, 10:24:13 AM
I'm surprised Black Clouds is so high
Where??
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Darkes7 on November 08, 2009, 10:44:35 AM: Quote from: ariich on November 08, 2009, 10:21:23 AM
@Darkes: You can if you like, though you shouldn't feel any obligation to lower your ratings. I most have higher ratings, some people have more than I do, and some have very few. If you think a song deserves 10/10, give it 10/10.

If you only change a handful then can you just post the changes here? If it's most songs then I'll just re-add your whole thing.
I changed plenty of songs, the changes weren't big but I feel it's much more accurate now - before the ratings kind of "melted together" too much, now I feel they're better. I hope it's not too much work?

Overall I see I'm pretty light in my ratings, as there are very few songs falling under 6/10, but well... I feel I like all the albums for a reason. :P

As for the average ratings, they turned out to be pretty accurate... except for Awake and Octavarium being lower than they should be (in case of Awake 11 songs has an influence, I guess).
1. Scenes From a Memory - 8.875
2. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence - 8.75
3. Systematic Chaos - 8.5
4. Black Clouds & Silver Linings - 8.417
5. Awake - 8.318
6. Train of Thought - 8.143
7. Octavarium - 8.063
8. Images & Words - 7.75
9. Falling Into Infinity - 7.5
10. When Dream and Day Unite - 5.75
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 08, 2009, 11:09:46 AM: Nah wasn't too much trouble. Although I noticed you lowered some great songs from a 10 to a 9.5 (like TGP) but kept songs like Regression and Vacant as 10s! :lol
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: glaurung on November 08, 2009, 11:18:58 AM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 5
Status Seeker: 3.5
Ytse Jam: 5.5
The Killing Hand: 3
Light Fuse and Get Away: 3.5
Afterlife: 2.5
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 4.5
Only a Matter of Time: 5

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8.5
Another Day: 7.5
Take the Time: 10
Surrounded: 8
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 9
Wait for Sleep: 7.5
Learning to Live: 9.5

~Awake~
6:00: 7
Caught in a Web: 7.5
Innocence Faded: 6.5
Erotomania: 8
Voices: 9
The Silent Man: 6
The Mirror: 9
Lie: 6.5
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7
Scarred: 8
Space Dye-Vest: 7.5

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 7
You Not Me: 4
Peruvian Skies: 6.5
Hollow Years: 6.5
Burning My Soul: 6
Hell's Kitchen: 8
Lines in the Sand: 9.5
Take Away My Pain: 5.5
Just Let Me Breathe: 6
Anna Lee: 6
Trial of Tears: 8

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 5.5
Overture 1928: 9
Strange déjà vu: 8
Through My Words: 6.5
Fatal Tragedy: 9
Beyond This Life: 8
Through Her Eyes: 6.5
Home: 9
The Dance of Eternity: 7
One Last Time: 7
The Spirit Carries On: 7.5
Finally Free: 9

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 9
Misunderstood: 8
The Great Debate: 7
Disappear: 8
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 8

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 6.5
Endless Sacrifice: 6.5
Honor Thy Father: 7
Vacant: 7.5
Stream of Consciousness: 9
In the Name of God: 9

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8.5
The Answer Lies Within: 6
These Walls: 8.5
I Walk Beside You: 5.5
Panic Attack: 7.5
Never Enough: 7
Sacrificed Sons: 7
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 6.5
Forsaken: 5.5
Constant Motion: 6.5
The Dark Eternal Night: 6.5
Repentance: 7.5
Prophets of War: 6
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 6.5

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9
A Rite of Passage: 7
Wither: 7
The Shattered Fortress: 8.5
The Best of Times: 8
The Count of Tuscany: 9.5

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 6.5
Your Majesty: -
A Vision: -
Two Far: -
Vital Star: -
March of the Tyrant: -
Don't Look Past Me:
To Live Forever: 7
Eve: -
Raise the Knife: 6
Where Are You Now?: -
The Way It Used to Be: -
Cover My Eyes: -
Speak to Me: -
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 08, 2009, 11:46:03 AM: I tried to avoid the halo effect, so there won't be a lot of 10s

~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 7
Status Seeker: 7.5
Ytse Jam: 7.5
The Killing Hand: 7.5
Light Fuse and Get Away: 6
Afterlife: 8
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 6
Only a Matter of Time: 6.5

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 9.5
Another Day: 9.5
Take the Time: 8.5
Surrounded: 9.5
Metropolis Pt 1: 9.5
Under a Glass Moon: 8
Wait for Sleep: 8.5
Learning to Live: 9.5

~Awake~
6:00: 8
Caught in a Web: 8
Innocence Faded: 9.5
Erotomania: 8.5
Voices: 9.5
The Silent Man: 9
The Mirror: 8.5
Lie: 8
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8.5
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 7.5

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 9.5

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8.5
You Not Me: 7
Peruvian Skies: 7.5
Hollow Years: 7.5
Burning My Soul: 8
Hell's Kitchen: 10
Lines in the Sand: 9
Take Away My Pain: 8
Just Let Me Breathe: 9
Anna Lee: 8.5
Trial of Tears: 9.5

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 7
Overture 1928: 9
Strange déjà vu: 8
Through My Words: 7.5
Fatal Tragedy: 8.5
Beyond This Life: 8
Through Her Eyes: 8
Home: 8.5
The Dance of Eternity: 8
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 8
Finally Free: 9

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9
Blind Faith: 9
Misunderstood: 7
The Great Debate: 6.5
Disappear: 6.5
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7.5
This Dying Soul: 7
Endless Sacrifice: 7
Honor Thy Father: 9
Vacant: 8
Stream of Consciousness: 8.5
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 8
These Walls: 9
I Walk Beside You: 8
Panic Attack: 7.5
Never Enough: 7
Sacrificed Sons: 3
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 9.5
Forsaken: 7.5
Constant Motion: 7
The Dark Eternal Night: 7.5
Repentance: 6.5
Prophets of War: 8
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 8

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9
A Rite of Passage: 8.5
Wither: 8.5
The Shattered Fortress: 7.5
The Best of Times: 8.5
The Count of Tuscany: 9

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 8.5
Your Majesty: 6
A Vision: 6
Two Far: 6
Vital Star: 6
March of the Tyrant: 6
Don't Look Past Me: 8
To Live Forever: 7.5
Eve: 8.5
Raise the Knife: 8.5
Where Are You Now?: 7
The Way It Used to Be: 7
Cover My Eyes: 7
Speak to Me: 8.5
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Darkes7 on November 08, 2009, 12:15:01 PM: Quote from: ariich on November 08, 2009, 11:09:46 AM
Nah wasn't too much trouble. Although I noticed you lowered some great songs from a 10 to a 9.5 (like TGP) but kept songs like Regression and Vacant as 10s! :lol
I did, because I decided that they've lost their "absolutely the best" status over time, but I still find them excellent. Regression and Vacant are permanently awesome. I kept 10/10 rating only for the songs I felt they deserve absolutely nothing less and are strictly my favourites. 9.5 is for those very close behind. Regression is a special case, which I explained in the thread below.

I might eventually do my ranking for the song ranking thread, but it will be extremely difficult and will take a lot of work. Although I think you can already see the pattern in my ratings showing what I like and what I dislike.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: orcus116 on November 08, 2009, 12:17:52 PM: Quote from: Scurvy!Dreams on November 08, 2009, 10:37:00 AM
Quote from: orcus116 on November 08, 2009, 10:24:13 AM
I'm surprised Black Clouds is so high
Where??

The average album score posted by Emil.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Scurvy!Dreams on November 08, 2009, 12:18:52 PM: That's HIS average, not everyone's.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: orcus116 on November 08, 2009, 12:23:42 PM: :facepalm:
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 08, 2009, 12:32:10 PM: :lol Nice one.

I'll do album averages at some point, when I can be bothered. :P
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ddtonfire on November 08, 2009, 01:00:31 PM: Revised 11/23

~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 7
Status Seeker: 5
Ytse Jam: 6
The Killing Hand: 5
Light Fuse and Get Away: 6
Afterlife: 6
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 8
Only a Matter of Time: 7

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 9
Another Day: 6
Take the Time: 7
Surrounded: 7
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 10
Wait for Sleep: 6
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 8
Caught in a Web: 6
Innocence Faded: 7
Erotomania: 8
Voices: 8
The Silent Man: 6
The Mirror: 9
Lie: 7
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 10

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 9

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8
You Not Me: 5
Peruvian Skies: 7
Hollow Years: 6
Burning My Soul: 6
Hell's Kitchen: 9
Lines in the Sand: 7
Take Away My Pain: 7
Just Let Me Breathe: 8
Anna Lee: 6
Trial of Tears: 7

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 8
Overture 1928: 9
Strange déjà vu: 8
Through My Words: 5
Fatal Tragedy: 6
Beyond This Life: 6
Through Her Eyes: 7
Home: 8
The Dance of Eternity: 8
One Last Time: 6
The Spirit Carries On: 8
Finally Free: 10

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 8
Blind Faith: 10
Misunderstood: 7
The Great Debate: 6
Disappear: 10
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 8.5
This Dying Soul: 8
Endless Sacrifice: 5
Honor Thy Father: 8.5
Vacant: 6
Stream of Consciousness: 8
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 7
The Answer Lies Within: 6
These Walls: 8
I Walk Beside You: 5
Panic Attack: 9
Never Enough: 8
Sacrificed Sons: 7
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 8
Forsaken: 8
Constant Motion: 6
The Dark Eternal Night: 7
Repentance: 5
Prophets of War: 5
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 9

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 10
A Rite of Passage: 8
Wither: 7.5
The Shattered Fortress: 8
The Best of Times: 5
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 7
Your Majesty: 6
A Vision: 7
Two Far: 5
Vital Star: 5
March of the Tyrant: 5
Don't Look Past Me: 8.5
To Live Forever: 7
Eve: 8.5
Raise the Knife: 7
Where Are You Now?: 8.5
The Way It Used to Be: 8.5
Cover My Eyes: 7
Speak to Me:9

Averages:
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence - 8.5
Images and Words - 8.125
Black Clouds and Silver Linings - 8.08
Awake - 7.91
Train of Thought - 7.71
Octavarium - 7.5
Scenes From a Memory - 7.42
Falling Into Infinity - 6.91
Systematic Chaos - 6.86
When Dream and Day Untie - 6.25

Averages, Weighted by Song Lengths:
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence - 8.8
Images and Words - 8.6
Black Clouds and Silver Linings - 8.4
Awake - 8.2
Octavarium - 8.2
Train of Thought - 8.0
Scenes From a Memory - 7.7
Systematic Chaos - 7.1
Falling Into Infinity - 6.9
When Dream and Day Untie - 6.3
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Pirate on November 08, 2009, 01:34:54 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 5
Status Seeker: 4
Ytse Jam: 8
The Killing Hand: 8
Light Fuse and Get Away: 5
Afterlife: 7
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 4
Only a Matter of Time: 6

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 9
Another Day: 8
Take the Time: 10
Surrounded: 8
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 8
Wait for Sleep: 8
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 8
Caught in a Web: 9
Innocence Faded: 7
Erotomania: 10
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 7
The Mirror: 7
Lie: 6
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7
Scarred: 9
Space Dye-Vest: 9

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8
You Not Me: 3
Peruvian Skies: 6
Hollow Years: 7
Burning My Soul: 5
Hell's Kitchen: 9
Lines in the Sand: 10
Take Away My Pain: 6
Just Let Me Breathe: 5
Anna Lee: 7
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 4
Overture 1928: 7
Strange déjà vu: 8
Through My Words: 5
Fatal Tragedy: 9
Beyond This Life: 8
Through Her Eyes: 7
Home: 10
The Dance of Eternity: 8
One Last Time: 7
The Spirit Carries On: 9
Finally Free: 10

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 8
Misunderstood: 8
The Great Debate: 7
Disappear: 8
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 5
Endless Sacrifice: 6
Honor Thy Father: 7
Vacant: 9
Stream of Consciousness: 9
In the Name of God: 9

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 5
These Walls: 7
I Walk Beside You: 6
Panic Attack: 7
Never Enough: 5
Sacrificed Sons: 9
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 10
Forsaken: 5
Constant Motion: 5
The Dark Eternal Night: 7
Repentance: 6
Prophets of War: 3
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 8

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 8
A Rite of Passage: 6
Wither: 7
The Shattered Fortress: 9
The Best of Times: 10
The Count of Tuscany: 10

According to this:
1. aCoS= 100%
2. IaW= 89%
3. SDoIT= 85%
4. BC SL= 84%
5. Awake= 81%
6. SFAM= 77%
7. ToT= 74%
8. Octavarium= 71%
9. FII= 69%
10. SC= 63%
11. WDaDU= 59%

According to me:
aCoS
1. IaW
2. SDOIT
3. SFAM
4. Awake
5. FII
6. BCaSL
7. ToT
8. 8V
9. SC
10. WDaDU
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Shadow2222 on November 08, 2009, 02:28:51 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 8
Status Seeker: 6
Ytse Jam: 9
The Killing Hand: 4
Light Fuse and Get Away: 4
Afterlife: 7
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 5
Only a Matter of Time: 8

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 6
Another Day: 9
Take the Time: 10
Surrounded: 8
Metropolis Pt 1: 7
Under a Glass Moon: 7
Wait for Sleep: 8
Learning to Live: 9

~Awake~
6:00: 5
Caught in a Web: 6
Innocence Faded: 8
Erotomania: 8
Voices: 8
The Silent Man: 8
The Mirror: 9
Lie: 9
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 9
Scarred: 8
Space Dye-Vest: 9

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 8

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 7
You Not Me: 7
Peruvian Skies: 8
Hollow Years: 9
Burning My Soul: 6
Hell's Kitchen: 6
Lines in the Sand: 7
Take Away My Pain: 8
Just Let Me Breathe: 6
Anna Lee: 7
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 5 (I mean, I'm not gonna listen to it outside of the whole album)
Overture 1928: 8
Strange déjà vu: 9
Through My Words: 8
Fatal Tragedy: 9
Beyond This Life: 9
Through Her Eyes: 9
Home: 8
The Dance of Eternity: 8
One Last Time: 9
The Spirit Carries On: 10
Finally Free: 10

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 8
Blind Faith: 7
Misunderstood: 8
The Great Debate: 6
Disappear: 8
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 9

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 9
This Dying Soul: 9
Endless Sacrifice: 8
Honor Thy Father: 8
Vacant: 8
Stream of Consciousness: 9
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 10
The Answer Lies Within: 9
These Walls: 8
I Walk Beside You: 8
Panic Attack: 9
Never Enough: 8
Sacrificed Sons: 9
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 9
Forsaken: 8
Constant Motion: 9
The Dark Eternal Night: 9
Repentance: 6
Prophets of War: 7
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 10

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 10
A Rite of Passage: 7
Wither: 8
The Shattered Fortress: 7
The Best of Times: 10
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 6
Your Majesty: -not heard-
A Vision: -not heard-
Two Far: -not heard-
Vital Star: -not heard-
March of the Tyrant: -not heard
Don't Look Past Me: 7
To Live Forever: 8
Eve: 8
Raise the Knife: 9
Where Are You Now?: 8
The Way It Used to Be: 8
Cover My Eyes: 9
Speak to Me: 7
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Genowyn on November 08, 2009, 03:12:49 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 7
Status Seeker: 5
Ytse Jam: 7.5
The Killing Hand: 8
Light Fuse and Get Away: 8
Afterlife: 7
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 6
Only a Matter of Time: 8.5

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8
Another Day: 6
Take the Time: 8
Surrounded: 7
Metropolis Pt 1: 9
Under a Glass Moon: 8
Wait for Sleep: 7.5
Learning to Live: 9

~Awake~
6:00: 8
Caught in a Web: 7
Innocence Faded: 7
Erotomania: 7
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 5
The Mirror: 7
Lie: 7.5
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7.5
Scarred: 9.5
Space Dye-Vest: 8

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 8

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 7
You Not Me: 4
Peruvian Skies: 7
Hollow Years: 6
Burning My Soul: 3
Hell's Kitchen: 7
Lines in the Sand: 9
Take Away My Pain: 5
Just Let Me Breathe: 6
Anna Lee: 5
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 4
Overture 1928: 7
Strange déjà vu: 7
Through My Words: 5
Fatal Tragedy: 6
Beyond This Life: 5
Through Her Eyes: 5
Home: 8
The Dance of Eternity: 6
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 7
Finally Free: 9

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9
Blind Faith: 9
Misunderstood: 8
The Great Debate: 7
Disappear: 8
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 7

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 6
This Dying Soul: 6
Endless Sacrifice: 7
Honor Thy Father: 4
Vacant: 7
Stream of Consciousness: 6
In the Name of God: 9

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 5
These Walls: 8
I Walk Beside You: 5
Panic Attack: 6
Never Enough: 5
Sacrificed Sons:7
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 8
Forsaken: 6
Constant Motion: 6
The Dark Eternal Night: 7
Repentance: 5
Prophets of War: 3
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 7.5

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 8
A Rite of Passage: 5
Wither: 8
The Shattered Fortress: 5
The Best of Times: 4
The Count of Tuscany: 9

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 6
Your Majesty:
A Vision:
Two Far:
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me: 6
To Live Forever: 6
Eve: 6
Raise the Knife: 8
Where Are You Now?: 7
The Way It Used to Be: 6
Cover My Eyes: 7
Speak to Me: 7
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ddtonfire on November 08, 2009, 05:28:08 PM: Quote from: ZKX-2099 on November 07, 2009, 09:30:33 AM

:orly: I see what you did there.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Ultimetalhead on November 08, 2009, 08:50:07 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 9
Status Seeker: 8
Ytse Jam: 9
The Killing Hand: 6
Light Fuse and Get Away: 7
Afterlife: 10
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 5
Only a Matter of Time: 6

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 9
Another Day: 9
Take the Time: 10
Surrounded: 9
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 10
Wait for Sleep: 9
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 8
Caught in a Web: 8
Innocence Faded: 10
Erotomania: 9
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 9
The Mirror: 9
Lie: 9
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 9

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 9

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8
You Not Me: 4
Peruvian Skies: 9
Hollow Years: 8
Burning My Soul: 7
Hell's Kitchen: 9
Lines in the Sand: 10
Take Away My Pain: 7
Just Let Me Breathe: 7
Anna Lee: 8
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 3
Overture 1928: 10
Strange déjà vu: 9
Through My Words:3
Fatal Tragedy: 10
Beyond This Life: 10
Through Her Eyes: 8
Home: 10
The Dance of Eternity: 10
One Last Time: 10
The Spirit Carries On: 10
Finally Free: 10

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 10
Misunderstood: 10
The Great Debate: 10
Disappear: 10
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 8
This Dying Soul: 8
Endless Sacrifice: 7
Honor Thy Father: 7
Vacant: 9
Stream of Consciousness: 10
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 9
The Answer Lies Within: 7
These Walls: 8
I Walk Beside You: 6
Panic Attack: 9
Never Enough: 7
Sacrificed Sons: 8
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 10
Forsaken: 6
Constant Motion: 7
The Dark Eternal Night: 9
Repentance: 5
Prophets of War: 2
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 6

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9
A Rite of Passage: 8
Wither: 8
The Shattered Fortress: 10
The Best of Times: 10
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 8
Your Majesty: -
A Vision: -
Two Far: -
Vital Star: -
March of the Tyrant: -
Don't Look Past Me: -
To Live Forever: 7
Eve: -
Raise the Knife: 9
Where Are You Now?: -
The Way It Used to Be: -
Cover My Eyes: -
Speak to Me: -
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Secor on November 08, 2009, 10:00:12 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 7.5
Status Seeker: 7
The Ytse Jam: 5
The Killing Hand: 7.5
Light Fuse and Get Away: 6
Afterlife: 7.5
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 7
Only a Matter of Time: 7.5

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 7.5
Another Day: 8
Take the Time: 9
Surrounded: 8.5
Metropolis Pt 1: 9
Under a Glass Moon: 9
Wait For Sleep: 9
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 8
Caught in a Web: 8
Innocence Faded: 8
Erotomania: 9
Voices: 9.5
The Silent Man: 8.5
The Mirror: 9.5
Lie: 8.5
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 9.5
Scarred: 10
Space-Dye Vest: 9.5

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 9

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millennium: 8
You Not Me: 6.5
Peruvian Skies: 8.5
Hollow Years: 7.5
Burning My Soul: 6
Hell's Kitchen: 8.5
Lines in the Sand: 9
Take Away My Pain: 8.5
Just Let Me Breathe: 7.5
Anna Lee: 8.5
Trial of Tears: 9

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: -
Overture 1928: 8.5
Strange Déjà Vu: 8.5
Through My Words: -
Fatal Tragedy: 9
Beyond This Life: 8
Through Her Eyes: 8.5
Home: 9
The Dance of Eternity: 6
One Last Time: 9
The Spirit Carries On: 9
Finally Free: 9.5

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9.5
Blind Faith: 9
Misunderstood: 8
The Great Debate: 8.5
Disappear: 10
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 7.5
Endless Sacrifice: 7.5
Honor Thy Father: 8.5
Vacant: 8
Stream of Consciousness: 6
In the Name of God: 9

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8.5
The Answer Lies Within: 8
These Walls: 7.5
I Walk Beside You: 7
Panic Attack: 6.5
Never Enough: 7.5
Sacrificed Sons: 8
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In the Presence of Enemies: 7.5
Forsaken: 6
Constant Motion: 3
The Dark Eternal Night: 4
Repentance: 6
Prophets of War: 7
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 6.5

~Blacks Clouds and Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 7.5
A Rite of Passage: 6
Wither: 8
The Shattered Fortress: 8
The Best of Times: 8.5
The Count of Tuscany: 9

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 7
Your Majesty: 4
A Vision: 3
Two Far: 2
Vital Star: 4
March of the Tyrant: 4
Don't Look Past Me: 9.5
To Live Forever: 8
Eve: 8.5
Raise the Knife: 8
Where Are You Now?: 7.5
The Way It Used to Be: 9
Cover My Eyes: 7.5
Speak to Me: 7
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: changing_seasons on November 09, 2009, 11:03:50 AM: I'm done with my ratings now. They are on page 2.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 09, 2009, 12:29:14 PM: Quote from: changing_seasons on November 09, 2009, 11:03:50 AM
I'm done with my ratings now. They are on page 2.
Grand, cheers!

Keep the responses coming people, we've had 46 voters so far! :)
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: glaurung on November 09, 2009, 12:31:51 PM: When are you planning on posting the results?
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 09, 2009, 12:38:12 PM: Dunno really, the more people rating the better. Am going to be away (with internet access, but not with my own computer) for the rest of the week, so might post some "results so far" next weekend maybe.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Edan the Man on November 09, 2009, 01:01:12 PM: I'm still only able to get on DTF through my phone (don't ask), and there's a character limit when posting, so I can't do the whole list at once. I don't suppose its a problem for me to make like 10 separate posts? :lol
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 09, 2009, 01:23:41 PM: :lol How bizarre. If you want to do it in separate posts that's fine, I'll just combine them into one when you're done. Are you able to copy and paste so that it's in the same format that I provided?
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Edan the Man on November 09, 2009, 01:32:34 PM: I can't. Is it important they be exactly like that? I was going to post it similarly anyway.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Quadrochosis on November 09, 2009, 01:36:49 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 8
Status Seeker: 5
Ytse Jam: 9
The Killing Hand: 8
Light Fuse and Get Away: 6
Afterlife: 9
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 6
Only a Matter of Time: 8

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 5
Another Day: 7
Take the Time: 7
Surrounded: 9.5
Metropolis Pt 1: 9.5
Under a Glass Moon: 8
Wait for Sleep: 7
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 4
Caught in a Web: 5
Innocence Faded: 5
Erotomania: 6
Voices: 5
The Silent Man: 9
The Mirror: 8
Lie: 8
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7
Scarred: 5
Space Dye-Vest: 9

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 7

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8
You Not Me: 1
Peruvian Skies: 7
Hollow Years: 8
Burning My Soul: 7
Hell's Kitchen: 9
Lines in the Sand: 9
Take Away My Pain: 8
Just Let Me Breathe: 6
Anna Lee: 9.5
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 7
Overture 1928: 8
Strange déjà vu: 8
Through My Words: 6
Fatal Tragedy: 9
Beyond This Life: 8
Through Her Eyes: 8
Home: 5
The Dance of Eternity: 8
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 9.5
Finally Free: 10

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9.5
Blind Faith: 9
Misunderstood: 9
The Great Debate: 7
Disappear: 8
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 7
Endless Sacrifice: 10
Honor Thy Father: 8
Vacant: 5
Stream of Consciousness: 9
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 6
These Walls: 7
I Walk Beside You: 7
Panic Attack: 7
Never Enough: 8
Sacrificed Sons: 9
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 9.5
Forsaken: 8
Constant Motion: 5
The Dark Eternal Night: 8.5
Repentance: 6
Prophets of War: 7
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 9.5

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 10
A Rite of Passage: 3
Wither: 8
The Shattered Fortress: 8.5
The Best of Times: 8
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 9
Your Majesty: 5
A Vision: 5
Two Far: 5
Vital Star: 6
March of the Tyrant: 6
Don't Look Past Me: 7
To Live Forever: 8
Eve: 8
Raise the Knife: 9
Where Are You Now?: 7
The Way It Used to Be: 7
Cover My Eyes: 8
Speak to Me: 8
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: emindead on November 09, 2009, 01:44:43 PM: Quote from: ariich on November 08, 2009, 07:20:55 AM
Wow emin, I'm pretty amazed at some of your ratings. Particularly The Glass Prison! 4/10?!
That is the most overrated song (after Met Part 1) in DT's catalog.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: emindead on November 09, 2009, 01:48:58 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 06, 2009, 06:41:12 PM
Learning to Live: 7
Scarred: 0
Space Dye-Vest: 0
Forsaken: 7.5
The Dark Eternal Night: 9.5
Quote from: ResultsMayVary on November 07, 2009, 06:43:35 AM
Wait for Sleep: 3
Learning to Live: 5
Here:
(https://static.andaluciaimagen.com/Nudo-del-ahorcado-40691.jpg)

(this is all in jest. But seriously, WTF!)
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: orcus116 on November 09, 2009, 01:55:21 PM: Purely out of curiosity, Blob, but are those 0s in relation to DT's music or music in general? I know you loathe those songs but if its the latter...damn dude.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: j on November 09, 2009, 02:28:27 PM: I suspect he just saw this as another opportunity to use hyperbole (of sorts) to express his opinions. Strangely enough, I don't think any of us who are vocal about our dislike for SC gave anything on it a 0 so far.

-J
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Amoniz on November 09, 2009, 02:33:39 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 8
Status Seeker: 6
Ytse Jam: 6.5
The Killing Hand: 9.5
Light Fuse and Get Away: 8.5
Afterlife: 7.5
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 10
Only a Matter of Time: 8

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 7.5
Another Day: 6
Take the Time: 8
Surrounded: 9
Metropolis Pt 1: 9.5
Under a Glass Moon: 9.5
Wait for Sleep: 8.5
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 8
Caught in a Web: 9.5
Innocence Faded: 10
Erotomania: 10
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 9
The Mirror: 8.5
Lie: 7
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 7.5

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 6
You Not Me: 3.5
Peruvian Skies: 7.5
Hollow Years: 3
Burning My Soul: 5
Hell's Kitchen: 8.5
Lines in the Sand: 9.5
Take Away My Pain: 7
Just Let Me Breathe: 8
Anna Lee: 5.5
Trial of Tears: 9

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 3
Overture 1928: 7.5
Strange déjà vu: 8
Through My Words: 3
Fatal Tragedy: 10
Beyond This Life: 8.5
Through Her Eyes: 2
Home: 9.5
The Dance of Eternity: 8
One Last Time: 6.5
The Spirit Carries On: 3
Finally Free: 7

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 8
Misunderstood: 9
The Great Debate: 10
Disappear: 7
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 8

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 5
This Dying Soul: 9.5
Endless Sacrifice: 8.5
Honor Thy Father: 7.5
Vacant: 5
Stream of Consciousness: 7
In the Name of God: 8

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8.5
The Answer Lies Within: 4.5
These Walls: 6
I Walk Beside You: 4
Panic Attack: 5
Never Enough: 7.5
Sacrificed Sons: 7.5
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 10
Forsaken: 8
Constant Motion: 8
The Dark Eternal Night: 9
Repentance: 6.5
Prophets of War: 6
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 7.5

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 10
A Rite of Passage: 7.5
Wither: 6.5
The Shattered Fortress: 8.5
The Best of Times: 8
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 7.5
Your Majesty: 4
A Vision: 8
Two Far: 9
Vital Star: 6.5
March of the Tyrant: 6.5
Don't Look Past Me: 6
To Live Forever: 9
Eve: 6.5
Raise the Knife: 10
Where Are You Now?: 5
The Way It Used to Be: 5.5
Cover My Eyes: 8
Speak to Me: 5

(I don't understand why 6DOIT is enlisted as one song, & A mind beside itself separated into parts, while both are "suites"...)
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ddtonfire on November 09, 2009, 03:21:30 PM: Am I and Blob the only ones here who really enjoy Regression? Speaking parts aside, I think it's a really fun song; great to sing along to. Does everyone rate it low just because it's short?
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Darkes7 on November 09, 2009, 03:26:47 PM: I rated Regression as 10 and even made a thread about it, so not just you. ;)

Guys, I don't facepalm every time I see Take The Time rated higher than Home, so I think there's no point pointing out Blob's ratings every time, it's not like he's been hiding it all the time.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: j on November 09, 2009, 03:28:02 PM: Quote from: Amoniz on November 09, 2009, 02:33:39 PM
(I don't understand why 6DOIT is enlisted as one song, & A mind beside itself separated into parts, while both are "suites"...)

(https://www.dedroidify.com/blogimages/No-Darth_Vader.jpg)

-J
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Darkes7 on November 09, 2009, 03:30:51 PM: But Six Degrees CD2 is a concept album...
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 09, 2009, 04:34:23 PM: Quote from: Edan the Man on November 09, 2009, 01:32:34 PM
I can't. Is it important they be exactly like that? I was going to post it similarly anyway.
Nah no big deal. Like I said, I'm away for the rest of the week, so I can sort it out when I get back.

Quote from: emindead on November 09, 2009, 01:48:58 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 06, 2009, 06:41:12 PM
Learning to Live: 7
Scarred: 0
Space Dye-Vest: 0
Forsaken: 7.5
The Dark Eternal Night: 9.5
Quote from: ResultsMayVary on November 07, 2009, 06:43:35 AM
Wait for Sleep: 3
Learning to Live: 5
Here:
(https://static.andaluciaimagen.com/Nudo-del-ahorcado-40691.jpg)

(this is all in jest. But seriously, WTF!)
But seriously, your Glass Prison rating is far more outrageous. All of those ratings you quoted are shared by at least one other person, whereas you are the ONLY person to rate TGP lower than an 8. Freak! :P

Quote from: j on November 09, 2009, 03:28:02 PM
Quote from: Amoniz on November 09, 2009, 02:33:39 PM
(I don't understand why 6DOIT is enlisted as one song, & A mind beside itself separated into parts, while both are "suites"...)

(https://www.dedroidify.com/blogimages/No-Darth_Vader.jpg)

-J
:lol My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ddtonfire on November 09, 2009, 04:52:25 PM: Quote from: Darkes7 on November 09, 2009, 03:26:47 PM
I rated Regression as 10 and even made a thread about it, so not just you. ;)

Well darn it, you're quite right. I think I'll go visit that thread and appreciate.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Edan the Man on November 09, 2009, 05:18:38 PM: Ok, I'll start mine. :D This will have to be split into 5 or 6 posts I'm guessing.

~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune In Lies: 6.5
Status Seeker: 6
Ytse Jam: 8
The Killing Hand: 8
Light Fuse and Get Away: 3
Afterlife: 7.5
The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun: 6.5
Only a Matter of Time: 5

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 7
Another Day: 8
Take The Time: 10
Surrounded: 8.5
Metropolis: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 8.5
Wait For Sleep: 9
Learning To Live: 10
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Edan the Man on November 09, 2009, 05:25:58 PM: ~Awake~
6:00: 8.5
Caught In a Web: 7
Innocence Faded: 8.5
Erotomania: 9
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 7.5
The Mirror: 8
Lie: 6
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8
Scarred: 7
Space Dye Vest: 9

A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 5
You Not Me: 3
Peruvian Skies: 6.5
Hollow Years: 7
Burning My Soul: 6
Hell's Kitchen: 8
Lines In The Sand: 9
Take Away My Pain: 6
Just Let Me Breathe: 8
Anna Lee: 8
Trial of Tears: 10
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Global Laziness on November 09, 2009, 05:32:24 PM: This was a painstaking and meticulous process, but I'm glad I did it. I didn't rate the Majesty Demos because I'm not as comfortable with them. And yes, every tenth of a point counts.

~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 7.3
Status Seeker: 5.8
Ytse Jam: 6.6
The Killing Hand: 8.5
Light Fuse and Get Away: 8.3
Afterlife: 5.2
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 4.5
Only a Matter of Time: 7.9

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 6.1
Another Day: 7.7
Take the Time: 8.2
Surrounded: 5.5
Metropolis Pt 1: 9.8
Under a Glass Moon: 5.7
Wait for Sleep: 9.5
Learning to Live: 9.4

~Awake~
6:00: 7
Caught in a Web: 6.8
Innocence Faded: 8.9
Erotomania: 6.4
Voices: 8.1
The Silent Man: 5.6
The Mirror: 6.2
Lie: 8.1
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7.8
Scarred: 9.5
Space Dye-Vest: 7.8

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millennium: 7.5
You Not Me: 4
Peruvian Skies: 4.1
Hollow Years: 5.8
Burning My Soul: 4
Hell's Kitchen: 8.6
Lines in the Sand: 9
Take Away My Pain: 4.7
Just Let Me Breathe: 5.3
Anna Lee: 4.3
Trial of Tears: 7.9

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 4
Overture 1928: 8.2
Strange Deja Vu: 7.2
Through My Words: 4
Fatal Tragedy: 8.4
Beyond This Life: 7.5
Through Her Eyes: 4.5
Home: 5.6
The Dance of Eternity: 8.9
One Last Time: 6.7
The Spirit Carries On: 6
Finally Free: 8.3

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9.4
Blind Faith: 8.6
Misunderstood: 6
The Great Debate: 7.3
Disappear: 6.4
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 8.5

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 4.5
This Dying Soul: 9.2
Endless Sacrifice: 6.8
Honor Thy Father: 7.9
Vacant: 4.8
Stream of Consciousness: 7.7
In the Name of God: 9.3

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 6
The Answer Lies Within: 4.2
These Walls: 7.6
I Walk Beside You: 4.3
Panic Attack: 6.2
Never Enough: 5.3
Sacrificed Sons: 6.7
Octavarium: 8 (NUGGET!)

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 8.7
Forsaken: 5
Constant Motion: 7.4
The Dark Eternal Night: 7.9
Repentance: 4.5
Prophets of War: 4.7
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 6.8

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9.8
A Rite of Passage: 5.6
Wither: 7.2
The Shattered Fortress: 8.4
The Best of Times: 7
The Count of Tuscany: 9.3

~Unreleased~
Another Won:
Your Majesty:
A Vision:
Two Far:
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me: 8
To Live Forever: 8.2
Eve: 8.7
Raise the Knife: 4.6
Where Are You Now?: 4.4
The Way It Used to Be: 4.8
Cover My Eyes: 4.3
Speak to Me: 7.6
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Edan the Man on November 09, 2009, 05:33:56 PM: ~Scenes From A Memory~
Regression: 7
Overture 1928: 10
Strange Deja Vu: 8.5
Through My Words: 6
Fatal Tragedy: 8
Beyond This Life: 7
Through Her Eyes: 6.5
Home: 10
The Dance of Eternity: 6
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 9
Finally Free: 6

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 7.5 *runs*
Blind Faith: 10
Misunderstood: 8
The Great Debate: 9
Disappear: 9
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 9
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Edan the Man on November 09, 2009, 05:42:01 PM: ~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 8
Endless Sacrifice: 7.5
Honor Thy Father: 8
Vacant: 10
Stream of Consciousness: 9.5
In The Name of God: 9

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 7
The Answer Lies Within: 7
These Walls: 8
I Walk Beside You: 4
Panic Attack: 8
Never Enough: 6.5
Sacrificed Sons: 7
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 7.5
Forsaken: 8
Constant Motion: 5
The Dark Eternal Night: 9.5
Repentance: 6.5
Prophets of War: 5
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 5.5
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Edan the Man on November 09, 2009, 05:48:53 PM: ~Black Clouds and Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9.5
A Rite of Passage: 6
Wither: 8.5
The Shattered Fortress: 9
The Best of Times: 7
The Count of Tuscany: 9.5

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 8
To Live Forever: 9
Eve: 7
Raise The Knife: 7.5
Cover My Eyes: 6.5
Speak To Me: 6

Not familiar enough with the others.

And I am done. Typing all that out on my phone sucked, I think I'm gonna go do something else for a while. :'(
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: MykeHavoc on November 09, 2009, 06:48:34 PM: ~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 9
Another Day: 8.5
Take the Time: 8.5
Surrounded: 6.5
Metropolis Pt 1: 8.5
Under a Glass Moon: 9
Wait for Sleep: 9
Learning to Live: 8.5

~Awake~
6:00: 9.5
Caught in a Web: 10
Innocence Faded: 7
Erotomania: 8
Voices: 8
The Silent Man: 6
The Mirror: 9
Lie: 8
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8
Scarred: 8.5
Space Dye-Vest: 9.5

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 7.5

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 8
Overture 1928: 10
Strange déjà vu: 10
Through My Words:8
Fatal Tragedy: 8
Beyond This Life: 8
Through Her Eyes: 8.5
Home: 8.5
The Dance of Eternity: 7.5
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 10
Finally Free: 8.5

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9.5 (loses half a point for the rap scratches. Other then that, perfect)
Blind Faith: 7
Misunderstood: 7
The Great Debate: 6
Disappear: 10
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 6

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 10
Endless Sacrifice: 6.5
Honor Thy Father: 5
Vacant: 8
Stream of Consciousness: 8
In the Name of God: 8.5

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 10
The Answer Lies Within: 8
These Walls: 8.5
I Walk Beside You: 7
Panic Attack: 8
Never Enough: 7
Sacrificed Sons: 9.5
Octavarium: 8.5

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 6
Forsaken: 6
Constant Motion: 8.5
The Dark Eternal Night: 6.5
Repentance: 6
Prophets of War: 6
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 7

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 8.5
A Rite of Passage: 7.5
Wither: 6.5
The Shattered Fortress: 8.5
The Best of Times: 5
The Count of Tuscany: 8

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 8.5

I'll rate WD&DU later. Need to review it this week. I'll also give more of the unreleased tracks a listen.
And although I've heard most of FII from the dvds, I don't actually own it yet, so I left it off.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: setrataeso on November 09, 2009, 07:09:00 PM: Global Laziness, I think ariich wanted it on a .5 scale...
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ZachyDou on November 09, 2009, 07:56:52 PM: Yeah, I was gonna say.
Yours are rediculously specific.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 09, 2009, 08:17:12 PM: Quote from: orcus116 on November 09, 2009, 01:55:21 PM
Purely out of curiosity, Blob, but are those 0s in relation to DT's music or music in general? I know you loathe those songs but if its the latter...damn dude.

Well if it was rated against all music in general, obviously I'd probably have to scale everything a bit higher, because there is always worse out there. But it's all subjective anyway, and at the end of the day it all comes down to whether I can stand to listen to them or not.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: emindead on November 09, 2009, 09:39:47 PM: Quote from: ariich on November 09, 2009, 04:34:23 PM
Quote from: emindead on November 09, 2009, 01:48:58 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 06, 2009, 06:41:12 PM
Learning to Live: 7
Scarred: 0
Space Dye-Vest: 0
Forsaken: 7.5
The Dark Eternal Night: 9.5
Quote from: ResultsMayVary on November 07, 2009, 06:43:35 AM
Wait for Sleep: 3
Learning to Live: 5
Here:
(https://static.andaluciaimagen.com/Nudo-del-ahorcado-40691.jpg)

(this is all in jest. But seriously, WTF!)
But seriously, your Glass Prison rating is far more outrageous. All of those ratings you quoted are shared by at least one other person, whereas you are the ONLY person to rate TGP lower than an 8. Freak! :P
I'm the freak? Look who said that "Forsaken" is better than "Learning to Live" by a .5. And here's the worst part, TDEN is much better than LTL too by 2.5!
(https://th00.deviantart.net/fs49/300W/f/2009/200/3/1/Aladdin_Genie_WTF_by_fatsfazoul.jpg)
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: YtseJamittaja on November 09, 2009, 11:03:18 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 7
Status Seeker: 7,5
Ytse Jam: 8,5
The Killing Hand: 8
Light Fuse and Get Away: 7,5
Afterlife: 7
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 6
Only a Matter of Time: 7,5

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8
Another Day: 8,5
Take the Time: 9,5
Surrounded: 9
Metropolis Pt 1: 9,5
Under a Glass Moon: 9
Wait for Sleep: 6,5
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 8,5
Caught in a Web: 8,5
Innocence Faded: 7,5
Erotomania: 8,5
Voices: 8
The Silent Man: 5,5
The Mirror: 7,5
Lie: 7,5
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8
Scarred: 8,5
Space Dye-Vest: 6

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 7
You Not Me: 4
Peruvian Skies: 8
Hollow Years: 6,5
Burning My Soul: 7
Hell's Kitchen: 8,5
Lines in the Sand: 10
Take Away My Pain: 6
Just Let Me Breathe: 7
Anna Lee: 7
Trial of Tears: 9

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 4
Overture 1928: 7
Strange déjà vu: 6,5
Through My Words: 4
Fatal Tragedy: 9
Beyond This Life: 8,5
Through Her Eyes: 6
Home: 8,5
The Dance of Eternity: 10
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 8
Finally Free: 9

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 9,5
Misunderstood: 7,5
The Great Debate: 8
Disappear: 6
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 9,5

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 9,5
This Dying Soul: 9,5
Endless Sacrifice: 10
Honor Thy Father: 9
Vacant: 7
Stream of Consciousness: 9,5
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 9
The Answer Lies Within: 6
These Walls: 7,5
I Walk Beside You: 7
Panic Attack: 8,5
Never Enough: 8
Sacrificed Sons: 8,5
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 9,5
Forsaken: 8,5
Constant Motion: 9
The Dark Eternal Night: 9
Repentance: 6,5
Prophets of War: 6,5
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 9,5

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 10
A Rite of Passage: 7,5
Wither: 7
The Shattered Fortress: 9,5
The Best of Times: 9
The Count of Tuscany: 9

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 6
To Live Forever: 9
Eve: 8
Raise the Knife: 6,5
Where Are You Now?: 6
The Way It Used to Be: 9
Cover My Eyes: 7
Speak to Me: 7
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 10, 2009, 12:13:42 AM: Quote from: setrataeso on November 09, 2009, 07:09:00 PM
Global Laziness, I think ariich wanted it on a .5 scale...
:lol Yup. Though if GL wants to post it like that, no biggie, but I'll be rounding to the nearest 0.5 when inputting into my spreadsheet.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: SilentFox on November 11, 2009, 12:27:47 AM: ariich--

I don't know if this kind of survey is going to work, mostly because everyone on the board has a different standard that they're going by.

For example, let's say blob and I both like TGP equally. Yet while he may rank TGP a 10, I may rank it a 9, even though we view the song equally.

This means that an average of all the ratings will not give an accurate measurement of how the board really feels. You're going to get people that rank everything really high, and you're going to get people that rank everything really low.

There's a similar thread that bosk made, except instead of rating songs, we rank them.

To get a true representation of how the board feels, here is what I suggest: we follow a ranking system. We then average the place number for each song. Then we create a master ranking list, from lowest score to highest score.

The biggest problem I see with that, though, is that every song would have to be ranked. Meaning, if a poster chose not to rank the nonalbum songs, it would mess up the placement of other songs. My argument against that, however, would be that it would weed out the weaklings. A true DT fan knows all the songs well enough to rank them. We don't want to include the votes of loose fans that will leave DTF after a month or so. Then they would no longer be a part of our community, and thus, the master ranking list would become incorrect.

Sorry if I am being too critical here; rating songs is a good idea; I just think that if we are looking for DTF's average opinion, it will be biased based on differing standards.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 11, 2009, 12:35:51 AM: SilentFox, I see what you're saying, but I think that as long as we get enough people ranking the songs, it will average out fine. In a way, the average score out of 10 at the end will be an average of not only what score we give the song, but also the scale on which we score the songs. And most importantly, it should still give an accurate relative score of each song.
I don't think it will ultimately matter if a 7 on my scale is a 5 on someone else's scale, as long as we're both ranking the songs relative to each other, if that makes sense.
Although I will be interested to see the results of both methods and see how they compare.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Scurvy!Dreams on November 11, 2009, 12:45:03 AM: Yeah, what Blob said. It averages out. The people who tend to rate stuff higher/lower will skew results in either direction, but it does so for every song.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Zydar on November 11, 2009, 12:46:33 AM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 6
Status Seeker: 7.5
Ytse Jam: 7
The Killing Hand: 7
Light Fuse and Get Away:
Afterlife: 7.5
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun:
Only a Matter of Time:

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8.5
Another Day: 9.5
Take the Time: 8.5
Surrounded: 9.5
Metropolis Pt 1: 8.5
Under a Glass Moon: 8.5
Wait for Sleep: 8
Learning to Live: 9.5

~Awake~
6:00: 7.5
Caught in a Web: 7.5
Innocence Faded: 8
Erotomania: 8
Voices: 7
The Silent Man: 7
The Mirror: 8.5
Lie: 7
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8
Scarred: 6
Space Dye-Vest: 6

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 9

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8
You Not Me: 7
Peruvian Skies: 7.5
Hollow Years: 8
Burning My Soul: 6.5
Hell's Kitchen: 7
Lines in the Sand: 7
Take Away My Pain: 7
Just Let Me Breathe: 6
Anna Lee: 8
Trial of Tears: 8

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 6
Overture 1928: 8.5
Strange déjà vu: 8.5
Through My Words: 7
Fatal Tragedy: 8
Beyond This Life: 7.5
Through Her Eyes: 8
Home: 8.5
The Dance of Eternity: 7.5
One Last Time: 7
The Spirit Carries On: 9
Finally Free: 9

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 8
Blind Faith: 6.5
Misunderstood: 8.5
The Great Debate: 8.5
Disappear: 8
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 9.5

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7.5
This Dying Soul: 7.5
Endless Sacrifice: 7
Honor Thy Father: 7
Vacant: 7
Stream of Consciousness: 8
In the Name of God: 9

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8.5
The Answer Lies Within: 7
These Walls: 7
I Walk Beside You: 7.5
Panic Attack: 7
Never Enough: 6.5
Sacrificed Sons: 8.5
Octavarium: 8.5

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 8.5
Forsaken: 7
Constant Motion: 7
The Dark Eternal Night: 8
Repentance: 6
Prophets of War: 6.5
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 6

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 8.5
A Rite of Passage: 7.5
Wither: 8
The Shattered Fortress: 7.5
The Best of Times: 8.5
The Count of Tuscany: 8.5

~Unreleased~
Another Won:
Your Majesty:
A Vision:
Two Far:
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me:
To Live Forever: 7.5
Eve:
Raise the Knife:
Where Are You Now?:
The Way It Used to Be:
Cover My Eyes:
Speak to Me: 7.5
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: SilentFox on November 11, 2009, 01:03:03 AM: Quote from: Scurvy!Dreams on November 11, 2009, 12:45:03 AM
Yeah, what Blob said. It averages out. The people who tend to rate stuff higher/lower will skew results in either direction, but it does so for every song.

Yes, that would be mathematically correct. It does average out.

Although, I still think we should try out my idea if we get a lot of ties. Since most of us are only using increments of 0.5, ties will be likely. That said, a ranking system would let us pinpoint the exact placement of each song.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Amoniz on November 11, 2009, 01:06:24 AM: Quote from: j on November 09, 2009, 03:28:02 PM
Quote from: Amoniz on November 09, 2009, 02:33:39 PM
(I don't understand why 6DOIT is enlisted as one song, & A mind beside itself separated into parts, while both are "suites"...)

(https://www.dedroidify.com/blogimages/No-Darth_Vader.jpg)

-J
I still don't get it... :sad:
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 11, 2009, 01:36:21 AM: Quote from: SilentFox on November 11, 2009, 01:03:03 AM
Quote from: Scurvy!Dreams on November 11, 2009, 12:45:03 AM
Yeah, what Blob said. It averages out. The people who tend to rate stuff higher/lower will skew results in either direction, but it does so for every song.

Yes, that would be mathematically correct. It does average out.

Although, I still think we should try out my idea if we get a lot of ties. Since most of us are only using increments of 0.5, ties will be likely. That said, a ranking system would let us pinpoint the exact placement of each song.

I doubt we'll get all too many ties. Even though we're voting in increments of 0.5, the average scores at the end won't be (unless they get rounded off, but that's not necessary). At a glance, I definitely think this will be more accurate than a ranking system.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: glaurung on November 11, 2009, 01:40:45 AM: Quote from: Amoniz on November 11, 2009, 01:06:24 AM
Quote from: j on November 09, 2009, 03:28:02 PM
Quote from: Amoniz on November 09, 2009, 02:33:39 PM
(I don't understand why 6DOIT is enlisted as one song, & A mind beside itself separated into parts, while both are "suites"...)

(https://www.dedroidify.com/blogimages/No-Darth_Vader.jpg)

-J
I still don't get it... :sad:

This forum has seen too much debate about this. A lot of us are pretty tired of talking about it. Most agree SDOIT is one song split into separate tracks for convenience only and AMBI is a suite, not one song.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 11, 2009, 05:00:36 AM: SilentFox, I know what you're saying, but I'm not sure I agree. Going by ranking would mean that, even if you PERSONALLY like two songs equally, they'll get different scores (let alone whether two people like something equally - and besides, like you say everyone judges things differently, so quite how you'd be able to measure whether two people actually like something equally, I have no idea!). So then every single song's exact position matters, which makes it much harder for everyone to do. This way round, if you think "I like these 5 songs equally and would give them all 8.5/10", you can.

Different people might rate by different criteria, but that's fine, people listen to music in different ways. Some enjoy it but are quite critical, others are obsessed with it and give lots of 10s (I'm somewhere nearer the latter I think). That's the point, we want to average out the ratings of all the users. Hope that makes sense.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Vlad08 on November 11, 2009, 07:45:25 AM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 6
Status Seeker: 4
Ytse Jam: 8
The Killing Hand: 7,5
Light Fuse and Get Away: 3,5
Afterlife: 7
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 3
Only a Matter of Time: 8

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 7,5
Another Day: 9,5
Take the Time: 6,5
Surrounded: 7,5
Metropolis Pt 1: 9,5
Under a Glass Moon: 8
Wait for Sleep: 6
Learning to Live: 9

~Awake~
6:00: 8
Caught in a Web: 7
Innocence Faded: 5
Erotomania: 8,5
Voices: 7
The Silent Man: 6
The Mirror: 9
Lie: 9,5
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7
Scarred: 8
Space Dye-Vest: 10

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 8

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 2
You Not Me: 5
Peruvian Skies: 10
Hollow Years: 8,5
Burning My Soul: 2
Hell's Kitchen: 9,5
Lines in the Sand: 8,5
Take Away My Pain: 3
Just Let Me Breathe: 6,5
Anna Lee: 4
Trial of Tears: 7

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: -
Overture 1928: 9,5
Strange déjà vu: 8,5
Through My Words: 6
Fatal Tragedy: 8
Beyond This Life: 7
Through Her Eyes: 7,5
Home: 9,5
The Dance of Eternity: 10
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 8
Finally Free: 10

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 8
Blind Faith: 8
Misunderstood: 6
The Great Debate: 7,5
Disappear: 8
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 6

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 5,5
This Dying Soul: 7,5
Endless Sacrifice: 9
Honor Thy Father: 8,5
Vacant: 7
Stream of Consciousness: 9
In the Name of God: 8

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 4
The Answer Lies Within: 4
These Walls: 7
I Walk Beside You: 6
Panic Attack: 8
Never Enough: 9
Sacrificed Sons: 8
Octavarium: 9

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 7,5
Forsaken: 4
Constant Motion: 7,5
The Dark Eternal Night: 4
Repentance: 5
Prophets of War: 7
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 8

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 7
A Rite of Passage: 7
Wither: 8
The Shattered Fortress: 6
The Best of Times: 7,5
The Count of Tuscany: 8,5

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 7
Your Majesty: -
A Vision: -
Two Far: -
Vital Star: -
March of the Tyrant: -
Don't Look Past Me: 4
To Live Forever: 5
Eve: 10
Raise the Knife: 5
Where Are You Now?: -
The Way It Used to Be: -
Cover My Eyes: 7,5
Speak to Me: 7,5
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: SilentFox on November 11, 2009, 01:41:32 PM: Quote from: ariich on November 11, 2009, 05:00:36 AM
SilentFox, I know what you're saying, but I'm not sure I agree. Going by ranking would mean that, even if you PERSONALLY like two songs equally, they'll get different scores (let alone whether two people like something equally - and besides, like you say everyone judges things differently, so quite how you'd be able to measure whether two people actually like something equally, I have no idea!). So then every single song's exact position matters, which makes it much harder for everyone to do. This way round, if you think "I like these 5 songs equally and would give them all 8.5/10", you can.

Different people might rate by different criteria, but that's fine, people listen to music in different ways. Some enjoy it but are quite critical, others are obsessed with it and give lots of 10s (I'm somewhere nearer the latter I think). That's the point, we want to average out the ratings of all the users. Hope that makes sense.

Like blob said earlier, it would be interesting to see both outcomes. Why not do both?
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: jag66 on November 11, 2009, 02:20:20 PM: Ranking DT songs by different criterion is definately the way forward, although I reckon this method will get more responses than having to rank all the songs in order, hence yield better results.

One issue with this method is that if some people list over 10 songs as 10/10, then theres no advantage gained by the very best of that bunch. Also, it still allows alot of negativity towards songs like scarred.

Another method is listing a top 20, say, in order and doing a points system. That would allow love/hate songs to perform better. This method works if people don't know all the songs too.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Scurvy!Dreams on November 11, 2009, 05:23:18 PM: Quote from: SilentFox on November 11, 2009, 01:41:32 PM
Like blob said earlier, it would be interesting to see both outcomes. Why not do both?
We already have threads going for both methods. bosk1 will probably be too busy to tabulate the results of the rankings, so I'm sure he'd appreciate you volunteering to do it for him.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: SilentFox on November 11, 2009, 05:54:00 PM: Quote from: Scurvy!Dreams on November 11, 2009, 05:23:18 PM
Quote from: SilentFox on November 11, 2009, 01:41:32 PM
Like blob said earlier, it would be interesting to see both outcomes. Why not do both?
We already have threads going for both methods. bosk1 will probably be too busy to tabulate the results of the rankings, so I'm sure he'd appreciate you volunteering to do it for him.

Yes, but the rankings in that thread don't all rank every song, which would throw everything off. The only way that would work is if they rank every song.

And sure I'll volunteer for it.

I'll make the thread after this one is complete.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Scurvy!Dreams on November 11, 2009, 06:04:16 PM: Every song from the studio albums is in that list. Trying to include unreleased stuff and having some people not able to rank them would mess with the results more.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Nick on November 11, 2009, 07:14:44 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 9
Status Seeker: 9
Ytse Jam: 8
The Killing Hand: 10
Light Fuse and Get Away: 8
Afterlife: 9
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 8
Only a Matter of Time: 9

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8
Another Day: 9.5
Take the Time: 10
Surrounded: 9
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 8
Wait for Sleep: 9
Learning to Live: 8.5

~Awake~
6:00: 7
Caught in a Web: 7
Innocence Faded: 8.5
Erotomania: 9
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 9
The Mirror: 7
Lie: 7
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8.5
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 10

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 5
You Not Me: 7
Peruvian Skies: 9.5
Hollow Years: 9.5
Burning My Soul: 7
Hell's Kitchen: 7
Lines in the Sand: 10
Take Away My Pain: 7
Just Let Me Breathe: 5
Anna Lee: 9
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 8
Overture 1928: 9.5
Strange déjà vu: 9.5
Through My Words: 9
Fatal Tragedy: 9
Beyond This Life: 10
Through Her Eyes: 9
Home: 9.5
The Dance of Eternity: 9
One Last Time: 9.5
The Spirit Carries On: 9.5
Finally Free: 10

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 7
Misunderstood: 9
The Great Debate: 9.5
Disappear: 6
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 9
This Dying Soul: 9.5
Endless Sacrifice: 9.5
Honor Thy Father: 9
Vacant: 9
Stream of Consciousness: 10
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 7
The Answer Lies Within: 7
These Walls: 10
I Walk Beside You: 7.5
Panic Attack: 7
Never Enough: 7
Sacrificed Sons: 8.5
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 10
Forsaken: 8
Constant Motion: 8.5
The Dark Eternal Night: 9.5
Repentance: 8.5
Prophets of War: 9.5
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 5

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9
A Rite of Passage: 9
Wither: 10
The Shattered Fortress: 10
The Best of Times: 9.5
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 10
Your Majesty: 7
A Vision: 6
Two Far: 6
Vital Star: 6
March of the Tyrant: 8
Don't Look Past Me: 9.5
To Live Forever: 7.5
Eve: 5
Raise the Knife: 10
Where Are You Now?: 8.5
The Way It Used to Be: 8.5
Cover My Eyes: 8
Speak to Me: 9.5
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Infinite Cactus on November 11, 2009, 10:17:43 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 8
Status Seeker: 8.5
Ytse Jam: 7.5
The Killing Hand: 8
Light Fuse and Get Away: 9
Afterlife: 9
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 9
Only a Matter of Time: 7.5

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8
Another Day: 8
Take the Time: 10
Surrounded: 10
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 8.5
Wait for Sleep: 9
Learning to Live: 9

~Awake~
6:00: 9
Caught in a Web: 9
Innocence Faded: 9
Erotomania: 8
Voices: 9
The Silent Man: 8
The Mirror: 8
Lie: 10
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 9.5
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 8

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 8.5

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 10
You Not Me: 6
Peruvian Skies: 8
Hollow Years: 8
Burning My Soul: 8.5
Hell's Kitchen: 9
Lines in the Sand: 10
Take Away My Pain: 7
Just Let Me Breathe: 9
Anna Lee: 7
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 7
Overture 1928: 9
Strange déjà vu: 9
Through My Words: 6
Fatal Tragedy: 7
Beyond This Life: 7.5
Through Her Eyes: 6
Home: 7
The Dance of Eternity: 8.5
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 6.5
Finally Free: 6

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 8
Blind Faith: 9
Misunderstood: 7
The Great Debate: 9
Disappear: 5
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 7.5

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 7
Endless Sacrifice: 7.5
Honor Thy Father: 7
Vacant: 5.5
Stream of Consciousness: 5.5
In the Name of God: 6.5

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 9
The Answer Lies Within: 7
These Walls: 9.5
I Walk Beside You: 7
Panic Attack: 8
Never Enough: 7
Sacrificed Sons: 7.5
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 8.5
Forsaken: 7
Constant Motion: 8.5
The Dark Eternal Night: 8.5
Repentance: 6
Prophets of War: 7.5
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 4.5

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 8
A Rite of Passage: 8
Wither: 7
The Shattered Fortress:9.5
The Best of Times: 7
The Count of Tuscany: 9

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 8
Your Majesty: 6.5
A Vision: 7
Two Far: 7
Vital Star: 5
March of the Tyrant:6
Don't Look Past Me: 9.5
To Live Forever: 10
Eve: 7.5
Raise the Knife: 9.5
Where Are You Now?:8.5
The Way It Used to Be: 9
Cover My Eyes: 9
Speak to Me: 5
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 12, 2009, 02:49:37 AM: Quote from: Scurvy!Dreams on November 11, 2009, 06:04:16 PM
Every song from the studio albums is in that list. Trying to include unreleased stuff and having some people not able to rank them would mess with the results more.
Absolutely this. The reason this thread works is that if someone doesn't know a song, they can not rate it and it doesn't impact on the rest. Whereas in the rankings, for it to be fair every song would need to be ranked, so if you want to include unreleased songs then you'd need everyone to include them, so people would rank them low simply because they haven't heard them, which as Splent pointed out in the survivor, isn't really fair.

Basing it on bosk's thread but removing the unreleased songs from people's lists would probably work reasonably well though.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 12, 2009, 04:32:43 AM: It would still suck because it wouldn't be a true representation of people's favorite songs. I like some of the unreleased songs a LOT better than a good portion of their normal studio catalogue, and I know I'm not alone in this.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Global Laziness on November 14, 2009, 04:44:44 PM: Quote from: ariich on November 10, 2009, 12:13:42 AM
Quote from: setrataeso on November 09, 2009, 07:09:00 PM
Global Laziness, I think ariich wanted it on a .5 scale...
:lol Yup. Though if GL wants to post it like that, no biggie, but I'll be rounding to the nearest 0.5 when inputting into my spreadsheet.

Why, what harm does it do if you don't?
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Shadoshi on November 14, 2009, 06:55:53 PM: I'm not going to be very hardcore about this, but whatever.

~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 8
Status Seeker: 8
Ytse Jam: 8
The Killing Hand: 4
Light Fuse and Get Away: 7
Afterlife: 8
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 6
Only a Matter of Time: 9

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 10
Another Day: 10
Take the Time: 9
Surrounded: 8
Metropolis Pt 1: 10 (Can I say 11? :biggrin:)
Under a Glass Moon: 10
Wait for Sleep: 10
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 10
Caught in a Web: 7
Innocence Faded: 8
Erotomania: 7
Voices: 9
The Silent Man: 3
The Mirror: 9
Lie: 8
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 7

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 7
~~You Not Me:~~
Peruvian Skies: 7
Hollow Years: 7
Burning My Soul: 2
Hell's Kitchen: 10
Lines in the Sand: 8
Take Away My Pain: 7
Just Let Me Breathe: 4
Anna Lee: 8
Trial of Tears: 9

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 1
Overture 1928: 10
Strange déjà vu: 8
Through My Words: 5
Fatal Tragedy: 8
Beyond This Life: 7
Through Her Eyes: 5
Home: 9
The Dance of Eternity: 7
One Last Time: 6
The Spirit Carries On: 6
Finally Free: 6

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9
Blind Faith: 10
Misunderstood: 1
The Great Debate: 9
Disappear: 5
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 8

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 1
This Dying Soul: 7
Endless Sacrifice: 3
Honor Thy Father: 9
Vacant: 5
Stream of Consciousness: 2
In the Name of God: 5

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 10
The Answer Lies Within: 3
These Walls: 7
I Walk Beside You: 5
Panic Attack: 7
Never Enough: 6
Sacrificed Sons: 1
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 8
Forsaken: 8
Constant Motion: 8
The Dark Eternal Night: -Q
Repentance: 9
Prophets of War: 3
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 8

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 7
A Rite of Passage: 3
Wither: 6
The Shattered Fortress: 8
The Best of Times: 6
The Count of Tuscany: 7

(Don't know any of the unreleased)
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Majesty on November 15, 2009, 07:13:29 AM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 7
Status Seeker: 6
Ytse Jam: 7
The Killing Hand: 5
Light Fuse and Get Away: 8
Afterlife: 7
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 6
Only a Matter of Time: 8

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8
Another Day: 9
Take the Time: 10
Surrounded: 8
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 9
Wait for Sleep: 9
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 6
Caught in a Web: 6
Innocence Faded: 8
Erotomania: 7
Voices: 8
The Silent Man: 8
The Mirror: 10
Lie: 9
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 9
Scarred: 9
Space Dye-Vest: 8

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8
You Not Me: 4
Peruvian Skies: 6
Hollow Years: 8
Burning My Soul: 6
Hell's Kitchen: 8
Lines in the Sand: 8
Take Away My Pain: 6
Just Let Me Breathe: 5
Anna Lee: 7
Trial of Tears: 9

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 6
Overture 1928: 7
Strange déjà vu: 9
Through My Words: 9
Fatal Tragedy: 9
Beyond This Life: 9
Through Her Eyes: 8
Home: 10
The Dance of Eternity: 9
One Last Time: 9
The Spirit Carries On: 10
Finally Free: 10

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 9
Misunderstood: 9
The Great Debate: 10
Disappear: 8
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 8

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 10
Endless Sacrifice: 8
Honor Thy Father: 10
Vacant:7
Stream of Consciousness: 8
In the Name of God: 8

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 6
These Walls: 10
I Walk Beside You: 6
Panic Attack: 10
Never Enough: 8
Sacrificed Sons: 8
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 10
Forsaken: 10
Constant Motion: 7
The Dark Eternal Night: 8
Repentance: 8
Prophets of War: 7
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 7

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 10
A Rite of Passage: 8
Wither: 9
The Shattered Fortress: 10
The Best of Times: 8
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 10
Your Majesty: 10
A Vision: 7
Two Far: 6
Vital Star:6
March of the Tyrant: 5
Don't Look Past Me: 7
To Live Forever: 7
Eve: 8
Raise the Knife: 9
Where Are You Now?: 8
The Way It Used to Be: 6
Cover My Eyes: 8
Speak to Me:10
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Phil 72 on November 15, 2009, 08:00:34 AM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 9
Status Seeker: 9
Ytse Jam: 8
The Killing Hand: 9
Light Fuse and Get Away: 6
Afterlife: 9
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 7
Only a Matter of Time: 8

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 10
Another Day: 9
Take the Time: 9
Surrounded: 9
Metropolis Pt 1: 9
Under a Glass Moon: 9
Wait for Sleep: 10
Learning to Live: 9

~Awake~
6:00: 8
Caught in a Web: 8
Innocence Faded: 9
Erotomania: 9
Voices: 8
The Silent Man: 7
The Mirror: 9
Lie: 8
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7
Scarred: 9
Space Dye-Vest: 10

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 9

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8
You Not Me: 5
Peruvian Skies: 7
Hollow Years: 7
Burning My Soul: 8
Hell's Kitchen: 8
Lines in the Sand: 8
Take Away My Pain: 7
Just Let Me Breathe: 6
Anna Lee: 7
Trial of Tears: 8

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 8
Overture 1928: 9
Strange déjà vu: 8
Through My Words: 7
Fatal Tragedy: 8
Beyond This Life: 7
Through Her Eyes: 9
Home: 8
The Dance of Eternity: 7
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 8
Finally Free: 8

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9
Blind Faith: 9
Misunderstood: 6
The Great Debate: 6
Disappear: 7
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 9

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 9
This Dying Soul: 6
Endless Sacrifice: 7
Honor Thy Father: 5
Vacant: 6
Stream of Consciousness: 6
In the Name of God: 6

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 7
These Walls: 7
I Walk Beside You: 7
Panic Attack: 6
Never Enough: 4
Sacrificed Sons: 6
Octavarium: 8

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 9
Forsaken: 7
Constant Motion: 7
The Dark Eternal Night: 7
Repentance: 8
Prophets of War: 4
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 9

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 10
A Rite of Passage: 8
Wither: 9
The Shattered Fortress: 9
The Best of Times: 8
The Count of Tuscany: 9

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 7
Your Majesty: 6
A Vision: 6
Two Far:
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me: 6
To Live Forever: 9
Eve: 10
Raise the Knife: 8
Where Are You Now?:
The Way It Used to Be:
Cover My Eyes: 7
Speak to Me:
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Edan the Man on November 19, 2009, 05:55:34 PM: So when can we expect some results here?
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: setrataeso on November 19, 2009, 09:32:46 PM: I suppose someone's gotta calculate it first.
Do we have any volunteers?
I'll do it if no one else is. It's not like I have anything else to do all day :P.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 20, 2009, 02:50:51 AM: I've been collecting all the results in a spreadsheet, meant to post results so far last weekend but forgot, so I'll do it either tonight or tomorrow. :)
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 20, 2009, 02:56:19 AM: Can't wait to see it. This will be much more accurate than the survivors can be :)
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: RafTen on November 20, 2009, 04:05:14 AM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 9
Status Seeker: 7
Ytse Jam: 8.5
The Killing Hand: 9
Light Fuse and Get Away: 7
Afterlife:7
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 6
Only a Matter of Time: 9

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8.5
Another Day: 9
Take the Time: 8.5
Surrounded: 8
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 9
Wait for Sleep:9
Learning to Live: 8

~Awake~
6:00: 5
Caught in a Web: 7.5
Innocence Faded: 7
Erotomania: 8.5
Voices: 8.5
The Silent Man: 8
The Mirror: 10
Lie: 7
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 9
Scarred: 9.5
Space Dye-Vest: 8

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 5
You Not Me: 5
Peruvian Skies: 9
Hollow Years: 8
Burning My Soul: 8
Hell's Kitchen: 8
Lines in the Sand: 8.5
Take Away My Pain: 6
Just Let Me Breathe: 5
Anna Lee: 8.5
Trial of Tears: 9

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 9
Overture 1928: 10
Strange déjà vu: 9.5
Through My Words: 9
Fatal Tragedy: 10
Beyond This Life: 7.5
Through Her Eyes: 7
Home: 10
The Dance of Eternity: 10
One Last Time: 10
The Spirit Carries On: 10
Finally Free: 10

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison:9
Blind Faith: 6
Misunderstood: 9
The Great Debate: 7.5
Disappear: 7
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 8.5

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 9.5
This Dying Soul: 10
Endless Sacrifice: 10
Honor Thy Father: 8.5
Vacant: 7
Stream of Consciousness: 10
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 10
The Answer Lies Within: 7.5
These Walls: 8.5
I Walk Beside You: 8
Panic Attack: 9
Never Enough: 9
Sacrificed Sons: 8.5
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 9.5
Forsaken: 8
Constant Motion: 8
The Dark Eternal Night: 7.5
Repentance: 7
Prophets of War: 7
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 7.5

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 8.5
A Rite of Passage: 5
Wither: 8
The Shattered Fortress: 9.5
The Best of Times: 8.5
The Count of Tuscany: 9.5

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 7
Your Majesty: 6
A Vision: 7
Two Far: 6
Vital Star: 5
March of the Tyrant: 6
Don't Look Past Me: 5
To Live Forever: 8
Eve: 8
Raise the Knife: 7.5
Where Are You Now?: 5
The Way It Used to Be: 5
Cover My Eyes: 4
Speak to Me: 9
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 20, 2009, 10:12:02 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 20, 2009, 02:56:19 AM
Can't wait to see it. This will be much more accurate than the survivors can be :)
This.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 20, 2009, 11:32:11 AM: Ok I'll be doing it shortly then.

How do we want it presented? I currently have it ordered by album in the same way, with averages and standard deviations. I was thinking I'd post that, then maybe the top and bottom 20 (or however much people think) for both averages and standard deviations.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Edan the Man on November 20, 2009, 11:37:57 AM: That sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 20, 2009, 12:57:09 PM: Hmm, some of the results are as expected, some are quite interesting.

Let's make this a bit more fun. Without looking through the thread, let's have some guesses at the top 5!

Also make a guess at the most and least contentious/controversial few songs (based on standard deviation anyway) if you like!
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: KevShmev on November 20, 2009, 01:00:55 PM: Quote from: ariich on November 20, 2009, 12:57:09 PM

Let's make this a bit more fun. Without looking through the thread, let's have some guesses at the top 5!

"A Change of Seasons"
"Octavarium"
"Learning to Live"
"Take the Time"
"Metropolis"

Quote from: ariich on November 20, 2009, 12:57:09 PM
Also make a guess at the most and least contentious/controversial few songs (based on standard deviation anyway) if you like!

"Take the Time" is probably gonna consistently have the highest scores; probably tons of 8s and 9s (as well as some 10s, but not enough to make it number 1).

I suspect "You Not Me" and "Prophets of War" will both have consistently low scores.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: changing_seasons on November 20, 2009, 01:51:48 PM: Metropolis
A Change of Seasons
Scarred
Octavarium
Learning to Live

Space Dye Vest will probably have a huge standard deviation.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 20, 2009, 02:10:24 PM: Top 5, in no particular order:

A Change of Seasons
Octavarium
Metropolis
Learning To Live
The Glass Prison
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: jag66 on November 20, 2009, 02:36:13 PM: 1 A Change of Seasons
2 Octavarium
3 Metropolis
4 Learning To Live
5 Voices

next 5

Trial of tears
take the time
glass prison
count of tuscany
in the name of god

Given the largish sample I dont see anything overly controversial happening.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 20, 2009, 07:07:53 PM: Top 5:
ACOS
Octavarium
Learning To Live
Metropolis

Voices or The Glass Prison (yeah, I'm throwing a slight curveball)

DT is a band where you'll find fans who love or hate anything, so I wouldn't want to call it beyond that.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: setrataeso on November 20, 2009, 09:04:21 PM: I have feeling that TGD will score relatively high.
I saw quite a few 10s in there.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: robwebster on November 20, 2009, 09:25:05 PM: Quote from: ariich on November 20, 2009, 12:57:09 PM
Hmm, some of the results are as expected, some are quite interesting.

Let's make this a bit more fun. Without looking through the thread, let's have some guesses at the top 5!

Also make a guess at the most and least contentious/controversial few songs (based on standard deviation anyway) if you like!

Top 5:
Octavarium
A Change of Seasons
Metropolis
Learning to Live
Voices

Bottom 5:
You Not Me
Regression
Through My Words
Take Away My Pain
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun

Top 5 most controversial:
Scarred
Space-Dye Vest
Beyond This Life
Sacrificed Sons
The Dark Eternal Night

Top 5 least controversial:
The Glass Prison
6:00
Overture 1928
In the Name of God
The Mirror

Vacant's my wildcard for most controversial. I can imagine loads of people going "not a real song, 1" and loads going "beautiful, exquisite. 10." Was also tempted to throw in The Ministry of Lost Souls.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 20, 2009, 09:45:03 PM: Quote from: setrataeso on November 20, 2009, 09:04:21 PM
I have feeling that TGD will score relatively high.
I saw quite a few 10s in there.

TGD is one of those love/hate songs. It will get an average score because many people will also give it a low score. Same with stuff like SDV and Scarred. For every 10, there will be a 5 (or a 0 :hat )
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Portrucci on November 20, 2009, 11:09:44 PM: averages now please now
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on November 20, 2009, 11:21:18 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 7.5
Status Seeker: 8
Ytse Jam: 9
The Killing Hand: 6.5
Light Fuse and Get Away: 7.5
Afterlife: 5
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 6
Only a Matter of Time: 7

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 7.5 on a good day
Another Day: 8
Take the Time: 8
Surrounded: 7.5
Metropolis Pt 1: 9.5
Under a Glass Moon: 9
Wait for Sleep: 8
Learning to Live: 8

~Awake~
6:00: 9
Caught in a Web: 10
Innocence Faded: 8
Erotomania: 9.5
Voices: 9
The Silent Man: 8.5
The Mirror: 9
Lie: 8.5
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8
Scarred: 8
Space Dye-Vest: 7.5

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 7
You Not Me: 6.5
Peruvian Skies: 7.5
Hollow Years: 8
Burning My Soul: 6.5
Hell's Kitchen: 9
Lines in the Sand: 7.5
Take Away My Pain: 7
Just Let Me Breathe: 6
Anna Lee: 7
Trial of Tears: 7

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 8
Overture 1928: 8.5
Strange déjà vu: 8
Through My Words: 8
Fatal Tragedy: 9.5
Beyond This Life: 9
Through Her Eyes: 9
Home: 8.5
The Dance of Eternity: 10
One Last Time: 8.5
The Spirit Carries On: 8
Finally Free: 8.5

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 7
Misunderstood: 8
The Great Debate: 7
Disappear: 7
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 8.5

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 9
Endless Sacrifice: 9.5
Honor Thy Father: 8
Vacant: 9
Stream of Consciousness: 10
In the Name of God: 9.5

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 7
These Walls: 9.5
I Walk Beside You: 8.5
Panic Attack: 9
Never Enough: 8
Sacrificed Sons: 6
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 9.5
Forsaken: 7
Constant Motion: 7
The Dark Eternal Night: 9
Repentance: 7
Prophets of War: 7.5
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 8

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 10
A Rite of Passage: 7.5
Wither: 3
The Shattered Fortress: 5.5
The Best of Times: 7.5
The Count of Tuscany: 8.5
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 21, 2009, 04:25:40 AM: :lol Dammit DMoS.

I'll add your ratings in and then I'll start posting some results!
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 21, 2009, 04:37:03 AM: Quote from: ariich on November 21, 2009, 04:25:40 AM
:lol Dammit DMoS.
lol
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 21, 2009, 04:43:29 AM: Well, thanks to DMOS, some people have managed to get the top five right (in no particular order that is), although interestingly before his votes, Learning to Live was sitting 6th and Trial of Tears was the surprise 5th place!

I'll post this in a variety of ways, but I think the format most people are interested in is the full ranking, so here it is:

1. Octavarium: 9.573
2. A Change of Seasons: 9.333
3. Metropolis Pt 1: 9.254
4. The Glass Prison: 9.163
5. Learning to Live: 9.081
6. Trial of Tears: 9.076
7. The Count of Tuscany: 8.967
8. In the Name of God: 8.941
9. Voices: 8.934
10. Take the Time: 8.909
11. Lines in the Sand: 8.881
12. Home: 8.708
13. Fatal Tragedy: 8.516
14. Blind Faith: 8.483
15. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 8.459
16. A Nightmare to Remember: 8.459
17. Finally Free: 8.423
18. Under a Glass Moon: 8.360
19. Overture 1928: 8.275
20. The Root of All Evil: 8.266
21. The Spirit Carries On: 8.254
22. The Mirror: 8.221
23. Hell's Kitchen: 8.220
24. Wait for Sleep: 8.196
25. Disappear: 8.163
26. In The Presence of Enemies: 8.163
27. The Shattered Fortress: 8.114
28. Raise the Knife: 8.077
29. Erotomania: 8.073
30. Pull Me Under: 8.065
31. Strange déjà vu: 8.042
32. Surrounded: 8.016
33. Scarred: 7.991
34. Space Dye-Vest: 7.893
35. Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7.836
36. Stream of Consciousness: 7.803
37. 6:00: 7.704
38. These Walls: 7.683
39. One Last Time: 7.666
40. Lie: 7.631
41. Eve: 7.615
42. Misunderstood: 7.598
43. The Great Debate: 7.581
44. To Live Forever: 7.551
45. Another Day: 7.549
46. The Dance of Eternity: 7.525
47. Vacant: 7.525
48. The Best of Times: 7.508
49. Innocence Faded: 7.5
50. Wither: 7.5
51. Speak to Me: 7.5
52. Caught in a Web: 7.475
53. This Dying Soul: 7.466
54. Panic Attack: 7.466
55. Beyond This Life: 7.432
56. Another Won: 7.407
57. Honor Thy Father: 7.383
58. The Silent Man: 7.286
59. Sacrificed Sons: 7.216
60. New Millenium: 7.194
61. Ytse Jam: 7.190
62. Peruvian Skies: 7.127
63. Hollow Years: 7.101
64. As I Am: 7.075
65. Don't Look Past Me: 7.012
66. A Fortune in Lies: 7.009
67. The Ministry of Lost Souls: 7
68. Cover My Eyes: 6.985
69. A Rite of Passage: 6.909
70. Endless Sacrifice: 6.883
71. Through Her Eyes: 6.872
72. Repentance: 6.836
73. Only a Matter of Time: 6.824
74. The Way It Used to Be: 6.718
75. Forsaken: 6.688
76. The Dark Eternal Night: 6.688
77. The Killing Hand: 6.645
78. Where Are You Now?: 6.634
79. Never Enough: 6.567
80. Afterlife: 6.553
81. Constant Motion: 6.549
82. Anna Lee: 6.439
83. Take Away My Pain: 6.262
84. Just Let Me Breathe: 6.203
85. I Walk Beside You: 6.083
86. Through My Words: 5.9
87. The Answer Lies Within: 5.9
88. Light Fuse and Get Away: 5.716
89. Prophets of War: 5.557
90. Regression: 5.462
91. Your Majesty: 5.421
92. The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 5.413
93. Status Seeker: 5.377
94. Two Far: 5.222
95. Burning My Soul: 5.093
96. March of the Tyrant: 5.029
97. A Vision: 5
98. Vital Star: 4.735
99. You Not Me: 4.258

Personally there are a few placements that I find pretty interesting, plus I find it amazing just how far ahead Octavarium is than ACOS!
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 21, 2009, 04:48:04 AM: I got the top 5 right!

*does a little dance*
*makes a little love*

I'm surprised that The Answer Lies Within is so high.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 21, 2009, 04:50:40 AM: Octavarium wins :) And I called the top 5 pretty close. Great to see a lot of newer songs in there ;)
It's great to see the accurate unbiased results that are judging the songs solely on their own rather than by comparison with endless polls. This is as good as it gets really.

Thanks ariich for putting this together :tup
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 21, 2009, 04:59:04 AM: Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 21, 2009, 04:48:04 AM
I'm surprised that The Answer Lies Within is so high.
Funny, I'm surprised it's so low :lol

Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 21, 2009, 04:50:40 AM
Great to see a lot of newer songs in there ;)
Yeah I noticed that too, lots of newer stuff pretty high up like Octavarium, ITNOG, TCOT, etc. Although I also notice that I&W is easily the best represented album in the top 20, with half the album there.

Quote
Thanks ariich for putting this together :tup
You're welcome.

Most and least controversial songs coming right up!
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 21, 2009, 05:04:15 AM: Quote from: ariich on November 21, 2009, 04:59:04 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 21, 2009, 04:50:40 AM
Great to see a lot of newer songs in there ;)
Yeah I noticed that too, lots of newer stuff pretty high up like Octavarium, ITNOG, TCOT, etc. Although I also notice that I&W is easily the best represented album in the top 20, with half the album there.

I noticed that. I also noticed that the big album closers are generally very popular, such as ITNOG, Octavarium, LTL, TCOT, ToT. In general though there's a pretty good spread of all eras of DT in the top 20.

It would be cool to see this list in columns with extra stats, such as song length, year etc. Not that I'm asking or expecting you to do it, but it would be interesting to see the trend overall.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 21, 2009, 05:11:04 AM: DAMMIT BLOB I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN YOU'D CREATE MORE WORK FOR ME! :angry:

Nah I'll do something like that at some point, but for the moment you'll have to put up with what I've already got. :P Such as most and least controversial based on standard deviations.

Top 20 most controversial songs (the number is the SD):

1. The Dark Eternal Night: 2.491
2. Scarred: 2.452
3. Regression: 2.332
4. Space Dye-Vest: 2.133
5. The Ministry of Lost Souls: 2.089
6. Burning My Soul: 2.085
7. Prophets of War: 2.035
8. Light Fuse and Get Away: 2.029
9. A Vision: 2.029
10. The Best of Times: 1.998
11. Endless Sacrifice: 1.996
12. Sacrificed Sons: 1.979
13. The Killing Hand: 1.975
14. Anna Lee: 1.955
15. The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 1.937
16. Only a Matter of Time: 1.918
17. The Great Debate: 1.906
18. Eve: 1.893
19. Status Seeker: 1.885
20. Stream of Consciousness: 1.871

The top 2 made me laugh :lol Most of them were expected, but some I really didn't expect to see there, like A Vision! :lol

And for good measure, the 10 least controversial songs:

90. Under a Glass Moon: 1.068
91. Trial of Tears: 1.045
92. The Glass Prison: 1.015
93. Strange déjà vu: 1.005
94. Octavarium: 0.986
95. Take the Time: 0.985
96. Fatal Tragedy: 0.960
97. The Mirror: 0.919
98. A Change of Seasons: 0.905
99. Metropolis Pt 1: 0.878

Interesting to see that although Octavarium had a substantially higher average rating than ACOS, it is also splits the fan base a fair amount more.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: SilentFox on November 21, 2009, 05:35:57 AM: Interesting to see Octavarium win and not ACoS, based on KevSmev's stickied poll. I think its because ACoS lovers mostly rank Octavarium highly, but Octavarium-lovers don't necessarily rank ACoS highly.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 21, 2009, 05:39:29 AM: Well they're 1 and 2, so I wouldn't read too much into it personally. I've seen both songs win out at various times from various deciding methods, so I don't think there's any reason to it other than Octavarium winning on the day, so to speak.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 21, 2009, 06:33:03 AM: Quote from: ariich on November 21, 2009, 05:11:04 AM
Top 20 most controversial songs (the number is the SD):

1. The Dark Eternal Night: 2.491
2. Scarred: 2.452
:lol
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: jag66 on November 21, 2009, 06:40:51 AM: Named all 10 of the top 10 songs, woo!
The top 20 is very similar to what the survivor would be expected to produce

"24. Wait for Sleep: 8.196
25. Disappear: 8.163"

I find these 2 quite interesting, I doubt many people would stick them in their top 25's, but I guess they don't get any hate marks.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 21, 2009, 06:44:20 AM: Quote from: jag66 on November 21, 2009, 06:40:51 AM
"24. Wait for Sleep: 8.196
25. Disappear: 8.163"

I find these 2 quite interesting, I doubt many people would stick them in their top 25's, but I guess they don't get any hate marks.
Disappear is definitely in my Top 25.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 21, 2009, 06:48:34 AM: I'd probably put it top 25 too. Their most emotional song, and perfectly done.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 21, 2009, 07:07:39 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 21, 2009, 06:48:34 AM
I'd probably put it top 25 too. Their most emotional song, and perfectly done.
Agreed.

There is a disturbance in the Force. Did you feel it?
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 21, 2009, 07:10:49 AM: I did :| I thought it was just gas.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 21, 2009, 07:17:38 AM: Could be.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Global Laziness on November 21, 2009, 09:41:49 AM: Stupid question I know, but someone's gotta ask it. How do you calculate standard deviations?
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: SilentFox on November 21, 2009, 09:46:22 AM: (sum of (x - avg)^2)/(#observations - 1)
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 21, 2009, 11:13:23 AM: Quote from: SilentFox on November 21, 2009, 09:46:22 AM
(sum of (x - avg)^2)/(#observations - 1)
Technically that's the variance. SD is the square root of that.

Fortunately Excel has a nice standard deviation function to do it all for me. :D
Title: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on November 21, 2009, 11:24:20 AM: I'm going to throw a pitch at you guys here. You can swing at it or you can let it blow right past you. Whatever.

But... Now that we have the final rankings, would anyone be interested in getting various members to write a short blurb about each song, and then we can make a fancy-looking list at RYM or somewhere? And maybe DTF can link to it somehow on the discography page or something?

For example: https://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheScientist/atease_top_100_r_e_m__songs

Apologies if I should've put it in the original Song Ratings thread. Thought it might get more attention this way.
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: Perpetual Change on November 21, 2009, 11:46:24 AM: I wouldn't mind helping with this.
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: ariich on November 21, 2009, 11:52:27 AM: I think that's a pretty cool idea actually, although to some extent the rankings weren't so much final as the results so far. For example, some people (like Reapsta) hadn't finished rating everything.

I think if we set a deadline for people to add theirs, or fill in any blanks they've left, and then make them the final rankings for 2009, sort of thing, this could be a really good idea.
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: Scurvy!Dreams on November 21, 2009, 12:26:39 PM: I like it.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: KevShmev on November 21, 2009, 12:29:26 PM: Interesting to see where all of the songs ended up. Well-done! :tup :tup

On another note, I would be curious to see the order if this exact same thing was done over at Portnoy's forum. ariich, if you are a member, you should do it there, too. To see the difference between forums would be very interesting.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 21, 2009, 12:42:05 PM: Quote from: KevShmev on November 21, 2009, 12:29:26 PM
Interesting to see where all of the songs ended up. Well-done! :tup :tup

On another note, I would be curious to see the order if this exact same thing was done over at Portnoy's forum. ariich, if you are a member, you should do it there, too. To see the difference between forums would be very interesting.

Hmm, I am a member, but I very rarely post. Might do it at some point though, preferably after my upcoming exams, could be an interesting comparison.

Also, just noticed something that I find quite interesting, which is that the last three tracks of Awake all did incredibly similarly:

33. Scarred: 7.991
34. Space Dye-Vest: 7.893
35. Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7.836
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: KevShmev on November 21, 2009, 12:42:10 PM: Cool idea. And I would suggest the blurb for each song by written by someone who ranked the song pretty highly, that way each song is given a positive review, even if it didn't end up being one of the more popular songs. And I think we would all understand if no one volunteered to write a blurb on "You Not Me." :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: ariich on November 21, 2009, 12:58:06 PM: :lol Well, I think the blurbs would just be on the top however many, as they are in that link TOX posted. A blurb on every single song is good, including all the random Majesty songs that most people don't even know, would just be bizarre.
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: robwebster on November 21, 2009, 01:25:04 PM: I'd be up for helping out!

I'm up for doing The Root of All Evil or Fatal Tragedy or something along those lines. Or one of the more controversial ones towards the middle.
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: orcus116 on November 21, 2009, 01:30:36 PM: I'm nominating Blob for Scarred and Space Dye Vest.

I'll take Endless Sacrifice and The Dark Eternal Night.
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 21, 2009, 01:34:52 PM: Quote from: orcus116 on November 21, 2009, 01:30:36 PM
I'm nominating Blob for Scarred and Space Dye Vest.

I'll take Endless Sacrifice and The Dark Eternal Night.
:lol

Great idea, and I'm certainly willing to help.

I want Eve.
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: ariich on November 21, 2009, 01:48:37 PM: :lol Oh dear. At this rate we're not going to do DT or indeed this forum any favours.
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 21, 2009, 01:50:47 PM: Quote from: ariich on November 21, 2009, 01:48:37 PM
:lol Oh dear. At this rate we're not going to do DT or indeed this forum any favours.
??? I love Eve.
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: ariich on November 21, 2009, 01:52:56 PM: Oh that's right, it was bosk who hates it.

Well my statement still stands regarding the previous post :biggrin:
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on November 21, 2009, 02:00:57 PM: I'm down
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: tri.ad on November 21, 2009, 04:47:42 PM: I'm up for this as well.
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: ReaPsTA on November 21, 2009, 06:23:32 PM: Scarred.

Scarred.

This is me calling dibs on Scarred.

Scarred.
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: Jamesman42 on November 21, 2009, 06:31:11 PM: I can has Metropolis.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Edan the Man on November 21, 2009, 08:13:54 PM: Well the results aren't entirely surprising, but pretty cool list. :tup

How about seeing the album averages? :D
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 21, 2009, 08:30:31 PM: Quote from: orcus116 on November 21, 2009, 01:30:36 PM
I'm nominating Blob for Scarred and Space Dye Vest.

I'll take Endless Sacrifice and The Dark Eternal Night.

ok, that sounds like a ..............

wait a minute............

:sadpanda:

Seriously though, I'll happily do TDEN.
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: GuineaPig on November 21, 2009, 09:12:44 PM: I'd love to do Lines in the Sand, Lifting Shadows Off a Dream, or Voices.
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: j on November 21, 2009, 09:47:53 PM: Quote from: orcus116 on November 21, 2009, 01:30:36 PM
I'm nominating Blob for Scarred and Space Dye Vest.

I'll take Endless Sacrifice and The Dark Eternal Night.

:lol

I was gonna suggest this myself. Blob's rants about Scarred are colorful enough that they'll probably get people to listen to it just out of curiosity. :lol

I will do everyone a favor by not volunteering to write about any song, due to my embarrassing musical illiteracy.

-J
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Portrucci on November 22, 2009, 02:48:22 AM: Quote from: Edan the Man on November 21, 2009, 08:13:54 PM
How about seeing the album averages? :D

This, Im guesisng I&W easily wins it though
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 22, 2009, 04:41:59 AM: Coming right up!

But yeah I'm pretty sure I&W has destroyed the rest...
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 22, 2009, 04:48:51 AM: It wouldn't surprise me if IaW slays overall. It's definitely the least controversial on a song by song basis. Nothing else will come close.

It will be interesting to see how the albums go by these rankings, because they're being judged based on the songs, and not as a whole album as people would in an album ranking thread. I actually have a feeling that SFAM won't be as high as it usually would for that reason, even though it's highly ranked.
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: ariich on November 22, 2009, 04:49:43 AM: I nominate robwebster to write blurbs for... well, everything. He's one of the most eloquent posters here!
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 22, 2009, 05:00:23 AM: Quote from: GuineaPig on November 21, 2009, 09:12:44 PM
I'd love to do Lines in the Sand, Lifting Shadows Off a Dream, or Voices.
Yeah, those are all among my favorites, as well.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 22, 2009, 05:10:21 AM: So, I&W wasn't quite as far ahead as I was expecting:

1. Images and Words: 8.429
2. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 8.241
3. Black Clouds & Silver Linings: 7.909
4. Awake: 7.868
5. Scenes From a Memory: 7.589
6. Train of Thought: 7.582
7. Octavarium: 7.344
8. Falling Into Infinity: 6.896
9. Systematic Chaos: 6.783
10. When Dream and Day Unite: 6.341

Like you say Blob, this isn't the same as "DTF's album rankings", because it is purely based on song ratings. I might do that sometime as well (getting everyone to rate each album out of 10), to see how it compares.

I didn't include ACOS (obviously) or the unreleased songs, although interestingly the unreleased stuff actually had a slightly higher average than WDADU!
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 22, 2009, 05:12:33 AM: Quote from: ariich on November 22, 2009, 05:10:21 AM
So, I&W wasn't quite as far ahead as I was expecting:

1. Images and Words: 8.429
2. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 8.241
3. Black Clouds & Silver Linings: 7.909
4. Awake: 7.868
5. Scenes From a Memory: 7.589
6. Train of Thought: 7.582
7. Octavarium: 7.344
8. Falling Into Infinity: 6.896
9. Systematic Chaos: 6.783
10. When Dream and Day Unite: 6.341

Like you say Blob, this isn't the same as "DTF's album rankings", because it is purely based on song ratings. I might do that sometime as well (getting everyone to rate each album out of 10), to see how it compares.

I didn't include ACOS (obviously) or the unreleased songs, although interestingly the unreleased stuff actually had a slightly higher average than WDADU!
Interestingly enough, that's almost exactly how my album rankings would look (just switch 6DOIT and Awake).
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 22, 2009, 05:14:27 AM: Interesting to see BCASL rate so highly for a song by song basis. I wouldn't have expected that. I also didn't expect SDOIT to be so high up, as I know the title track and TGD are all over the place with their ratings. And ToT and SFAM are basically equal. I knew SFAM wouldn't fare so well based on a song by song basis.

Very interesting seeing the albums rated like this.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: jag66 on November 22, 2009, 05:16:50 AM: It's a shame we haven't any historical data of this.. i bet systematic chaos would have done much better 2 years ago..
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: jag66 on November 22, 2009, 05:22:21 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 22, 2009, 05:14:27 AM
Interesting to see BCASL rate so highly for a song by song basis. I wouldn't have expected that. I also didn't expect SDOIT to be so high up, as I know the title track and TGD are all over the place with their ratings. And ToT and SFAM are basically equal. I knew SFAM wouldn't fare so well based on a song by song basis.

Very interesting seeing the albums rated like this.

Yeah, SFAM is never likely to do that well.. through my words and regression will get an automatic low score from most people. I also get the impression awake did less well than it's percieved overall, not sure why though. Perhaps to do with BC&CL, SDOIT having less tracks. If you split SDOIT the song for example, the album would probably do worse. Whereas if you did SFAM by "acts" it would probably do better.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 22, 2009, 05:23:59 AM: Quote from: jag66 on November 22, 2009, 05:16:50 AM
It's a shame we haven't any historical data of this.. i bet systematic chaos would have done much better 2 years ago..
I'm not so sure. Two and a HALF years ago maybe, but people started disliking it very quickly.

But yeah, I might try running this thing every year or two, just to see how opinions change over time.

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 22, 2009, 05:12:33 AM
Interestingly enough, that's almost exactly how my album rankings would look (just switch 6DOIT and Awake).
It's not entirely dissimilar to mine. Swap the two top, swap SFAM and FII, and move SC up a few places and that's it.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 22, 2009, 05:25:53 AM: Quote from: jag66 on November 22, 2009, 05:22:21 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 22, 2009, 05:14:27 AM
Interesting to see BCASL rate so highly for a song by song basis. I wouldn't have expected that. I also didn't expect SDOIT to be so high up, as I know the title track and TGD are all over the place with their ratings. And ToT and SFAM are basically equal. I knew SFAM wouldn't fare so well based on a song by song basis.

Very interesting seeing the albums rated like this.

Yeah, SFAM is never likely to do that well.. through my words and regression will get an automatic low score from most people. I also get the impression awake did less well than it's percieved overall, not sure why though. Perhaps to do with BC&CL, SDOIT having less tracks. If you split SDOIT the song for example, the album would probably do worse. Whereas if you did SFAM by "acts" it would probably do better.
I think that both SFAM and Awake are better than the sum of their parts, and would do better in an album-by-album ranking.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 22, 2009, 05:35:23 AM: Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 22, 2009, 05:25:53 AM
Quote from: jag66 on November 22, 2009, 05:22:21 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 22, 2009, 05:14:27 AM
Interesting to see BCASL rate so highly for a song by song basis. I wouldn't have expected that. I also didn't expect SDOIT to be so high up, as I know the title track and TGD are all over the place with their ratings. And ToT and SFAM are basically equal. I knew SFAM wouldn't fare so well based on a song by song basis.

Very interesting seeing the albums rated like this.

Yeah, SFAM is never likely to do that well.. through my words and regression will get an automatic low score from most people. I also get the impression awake did less well than it's percieved overall, not sure why though. Perhaps to do with BC&CL, SDOIT having less tracks. If you split SDOIT the song for example, the album would probably do worse. Whereas if you did SFAM by "acts" it would probably do better.
I think that both SFAM and Awake are better than the sum of their parts, and would do better in an album-by-album ranking.

Definitely agreed on SFAM. I fully expected this result. As for Awake, I think it just has a few more controversial love/hate tracks, so when it averages out, it doesn't really reflect how many people love it. Whereas nothing on IaW is really controversial.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: King Postwhore on November 22, 2009, 06:11:18 AM: When Awake first came out I dug the heavyness of the album but a time went on I played it less than other DT cd's(which is still played more than many bands in my catolog). To each his own.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Portrucci on November 22, 2009, 06:14:21 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 22, 2009, 05:35:23 AM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 22, 2009, 05:25:53 AM
Quote from: jag66 on November 22, 2009, 05:22:21 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 22, 2009, 05:14:27 AM
Interesting to see BCASL rate so highly for a song by song basis. I wouldn't have expected that. I also didn't expect SDOIT to be so high up, as I know the title track and TGD are all over the place with their ratings. And ToT and SFAM are basically equal. I knew SFAM wouldn't fare so well based on a song by song basis.

Very interesting seeing the albums rated like this.

Yeah, SFAM is never likely to do that well.. through my words and regression will get an automatic low score from most people. I also get the impression awake did less well than it's percieved overall, not sure why though. Perhaps to do with BC&CL, SDOIT having less tracks. If you split SDOIT the song for example, the album would probably do worse. Whereas if you did SFAM by "acts" it would probably do better.
I think that both SFAM and Awake are better than the sum of their parts, and would do better in an album-by-album ranking.

Definitely agreed on SFAM. I fully expected this result. As for Awake, I think it just has a few more controversial love/hate tracks, so when it averages out, it doesn't really reflect how many people love it. Whereas nothing on IaW is really controversial.

Also Awake is also almost 20 minutes longer, I think that contributes to a "more things to dislike" or higher chance there will be something someone wont like type scenario.
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: ddtonfire on November 22, 2009, 05:56:12 PM: 6 D o I T is all me!
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: setrataeso on November 22, 2009, 07:33:32 PM: The Great Debate
Finally Free
The Answer Lies Within
One Last Time

I'd happily write for those.
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: skydivingninja on November 22, 2009, 08:05:40 PM: Quote from: KevShmev on November 21, 2009, 12:42:10 PM
Cool idea. And I would suggest the blurb for each song by written by someone who ranked the song pretty highly, that way each song is given a positive review, even if it didn't end up being one of the more popular songs. And I think we would all understand if no one volunteered to write a blurb on "You Not Me." :lol :lol :lol

This. I'd be happy to write something for these.
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: Ultimetalhead on November 22, 2009, 08:08:37 PM: I'll write a blurb for anything.
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on November 22, 2009, 08:30:14 PM: Are we claiming songs, or will they be randomly assigned? Because I don't care which ones I do
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: Genowyn on November 22, 2009, 09:28:01 PM: I'd be in, though my grasp of theory is practically non-existent compared to many of the members here :p
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: reneranucci on November 22, 2009, 09:51:51 PM: I would like to have a song that nobody ever listens to so nobody can pick on the inacurracy of my blurb. I can take A Vision or the silly short guitar songs on the Majesty demos :P
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: robwebster on November 22, 2009, 11:38:22 PM: I wouldn't mind doing You Not Me if I'm honest. I've kinda figured how that would go.

Quote
I nominate robwebster to write blurbs for... well, everything. He's one of the most eloquent posters here!
*warm fuzzies* ...my head is going to get MASSIVE now :p but thank you!

@Non music theory inclined people:
I don't really think anyone's going to need much music theory for this. A note by note rundown of each song is kinda pointless, there's nothing artful about saying "then Jordan Rudess plays the same melody transposed 3 semitones higher." Great, thanks for that, now does anyone care? It's more trying to capture what makes it unique - personal reactions. Or that's how I figured anyway! Seeing as we've got 90 odd songs here which are all vastly different from one another and brilliant (or not!) in their own ways, a second-by-second theory rundown would kinda be doing them a disservice.
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: ariich on November 23, 2009, 12:57:30 AM: I agree, music theory should have nothing to do with it (including it would make us and DT's music sound pretentious). It should be about what makes the song sound good.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: ariich on November 23, 2009, 12:58:34 AM: Right guys, new deadline for late submissions and for anyone to fill in the blanks if they left some, next Saturday (28th November) night! I'll PM people who left blanks that they wanted to go back to, but if you haven't submitted yours and you want to, just make sure it's done by the end of next Saturday!
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: Plasmastrike on November 23, 2009, 01:43:03 AM: Definitely going to do this at some point this week.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: tri.ad on November 23, 2009, 03:30:56 AM: Thanks, I'll get to it when I have time for that.
Title: Re: Official DTF Song Ratings: Possible Project?
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 23, 2009, 06:39:03 AM: I say use whatever terms are necessary to articulate your thoughts on the song. But chances are that if you need to get too technical about it, you're doing it wrong :lol
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: TheVoxyn on November 23, 2009, 07:40:13 AM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
Haven't listened enough to be able to rank

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8
Another Day: 8
Take the Time: 8
Surrounded: 9
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 7
Wait for Sleep: 6
Learning to Live: 8

~Awake~
6:00: 3
Caught in a Web: 4
Innocence Faded: 3
Erotomania: 6
Voices: 7
The Silent Man: 8
The Mirror: 6
Lie: 6
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 6
Scarred: 1
Space Dye-Vest: 3

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 6
You Not Me: 3
Peruvian Skies: 8
Hollow Years: 9
Burning My Soul: 6
Hell's Kitchen: 7
Lines in the Sand: 7
Take Away My Pain: 6
Just Let Me Breathe: 6
Anna Lee: 8
Trial of Tears: 9

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 7
Overture 1928: 8
Strange déjà vu: 8
Through My Words: 8
Fatal Tragedy: 8
Beyond This Life: 8
Through Her Eyes: 8
Home: 9
The Dance of Eternity: 8
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 9
Finally Free: 10

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 7
Misunderstood: 8
The Great Debate: 6
Disappear: 10
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 9

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 7
Endless Sacrifice: 7
Honor Thy Father: 8
Vacant: 8
Stream of Consciousness: 9
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 7
The Answer Lies Within: 5
These Walls: 7
I Walk Beside You: 7
Panic Attack: 8
Never Enough: 5
Sacrificed Sons: 7
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 9
Forsaken: 6
Constant Motion: 6
The Dark Eternal Night: 8
Repentance: 7
Prophets of War: 5
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 9

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9
A Rite of Passage: 6
Wither: 8
The Shattered Fortress: 7
The Best of Times: 9
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 8
Your Majesty: -
A Vision: -
Two Far: -
Vital Star: -
March of the Tyrant: -
Don't Look Past Me: -
To Live Forever: 8
Eve: 9
Raise the Knife: 6
Where Are You Now?: -
The Way It Used to Be:-
Cover My Eyes: -
Speak to Me:-
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: Dream Team on November 23, 2009, 08:06:38 AM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 8
Status Seeker: 7
Ytse Jam: 9
The Killing Hand: 10
Light Fuse and Get Away: 6
Afterlife: 9
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 7
Only a Matter of Time: 10

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8
Another Day: 8
Take the Time: 8
Surrounded: 10
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 10
Wait for Sleep: 9
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 7
Caught in a Web: 7
Innocence Faded: 8
Erotomania: 9
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 6
The Mirror: 8
Lie: 7
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 10
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 7

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 7
You Not Me: 1
Peruvian Skies: 7
Hollow Years: 2
Burning My Soul: 4
Hell's Kitchen: 8
Lines in the Sand: 8
Take Away My Pain: 8
Just Let Me Breathe: 5
Anna Lee: 3
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 5
Overture 1928: 10
Strange déjà vu: 8
Through My Words: 7
Fatal Tragedy: 10
Beyond This Life: 9
Through Her Eyes: 5
Home: 9
The Dance of Eternity: 8
One Last Time: 10
The Spirit Carries On: 8
Finally Free: 8

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 8
Blind Faith: 10
Misunderstood: 9
The Great Debate: 10
Disappear: 9
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 9

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 6
This Dying Soul: 7
Endless Sacrifice: 8
Honor Thy Father: 4
Vacant: 7
Stream of Consciousness: 8
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 6
These Walls: 5
I Walk Beside You: 8
Panic Attack: 7
Never Enough: 4
Sacrificed Sons: 8
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 6
Forsaken: 7
Constant Motion: 8
The Dark Eternal Night: 3
Repentance: 8
Prophets of War: 6
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 9

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 8
A Rite of Passage: 6
Wither: 7
The Shattered Fortress: 8
The Best of Times: 10
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 9
Your Majesty:
A Vision:
Two Far:
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me: 9
To Live Forever: 7
Eve: 7
Raise the Knife: 8
Where Are You Now?: 6
The Way It Used to Be: 7
Cover My Eyes: 5
Speak to Me: 8
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: feehan on November 23, 2009, 01:50:32 PM: the ones i left blank, i feel i dont know them well enough to give them such an important vote

~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies:
Status Seeker:
Ytse Jam: 5
The Killing Hand:
Light Fuse and Get Away:
Afterlife:
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun:
Only a Matter of Time:

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8
Another Day: 8
Take the Time: 6.5
Surrounded: 4
Metropolis Pt 1: 8
Under a Glass Moon: 6
Wait for Sleep: 7
Learning to Live: 8

~Awake~
6:00: 6.5
Caught in a Web: 6.5
Innocence Faded: 6.5
Erotomania: 6.5
Voices: 7.5
The Silent Man: 6
The Mirror: 7
Lie: 6.5
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream:
Scarred:
Space Dye-Vest:

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 6.5
You Not Me: 5
Peruvian Skies:
Hollow Years: 10
Burning My Soul: 3
Hell's Kitchen:
Lines in the Sand: 8.5
Take Away My Pain:
Just Let Me Breathe:
Anna Lee:
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 7
Overture 1928: 9
Strange déjà vu: 9.5
Through My Words: 7.5
Fatal Tragedy: 10
Beyond This Life: 10
Through Her Eyes: 10
Home: 9.5
The Dance of Eternity: 9
One Last Time: 9
The Spirit Carries On: 9.5
Finally Free: 10

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9.5
Blind Faith: 9.5
Misunderstood: 8.5
The Great Debate:
Disappear:
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 9

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 8
This Dying Soul: 9
Endless Sacrifice: 9
Honor Thy Father: 8.5
Vacant: 9
Stream of Consciousness:6
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 6.5
The Answer Lies Within: 9
These Walls: 9
I Walk Beside You: 7.5
Panic Attack: 7.5
Never Enough: 6
Sacrificed Sons: 7
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 10
Forsaken: 8
Constant Motion: 7.5
The Dark Eternal Night: 10
Repentance: 5
Prophets of War: 6.5
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 8

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9.5
A Rite of Passage: 7
Wither: 8
The Shattered Fortress: 6
The Best of Times: 6
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won:
Your Majesty:
A Vision:
Two Far:
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me:
To Live Forever:
Eve:
Raise the Knife:
Where Are You Now?:
The Way It Used to Be:
Cover My Eyes:
Speak to Me:
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: Cool Chris on November 23, 2009, 02:18:16 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 5
Status Seeker: 5
Ytse Jam: 6
The Killing Hand: 6
Light Fuse and Get Away: 2
Afterlife: 7
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 2
Only a Matter of Time: 7

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 10
Another Day: 6
Take the Time: 7
Surrounded: 5
Metropolis Pt 1: 7
Under a Glass Moon: 7
Wait for Sleep: 7
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 5
Caught in a Web: 9
Innocence Faded: 9
Erotomania: 6
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 5
The Mirror: 9
Lie: 7
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7
Scarred: 9
Space Dye-Vest: 8

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 4
You Not Me: 3
Peruvian Skies: 8
Hollow Years: 6
Burning My Soul: 2
Hell's Kitchen: 6
Lines in the Sand: 6
Take Away My Pain: 2
Just Let Me Breathe: 1
Anna Lee: 7
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 5
Overture 1928: 7
Strange déjà vu: 6
Through My Words: 5
Fatal Tragedy: 8
Beyond This Life: 5
Through Her Eyes: 3
Home: 10
The Dance of Eternity: 5
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 7
Finally Free: 9

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 8
Blind Faith: 10
Misunderstood: 9
The Great Debate: 3
Disappear: 10
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 3

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 4
This Dying Soul: 4
Endless Sacrifice: 7
Honor Thy Father: 6
Vacant: 8
Stream of Consciousness: 7
In the Name of God: 9

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 6
These Walls: 5
I Walk Beside You: 1
Panic Attack: 9
Never Enough: 5
Sacrificed Sons: 7
Octavarium: 9

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 8
Forsaken: 7
Constant Motion: 0
The Dark Eternal Night: 0
Repentance: 4
Prophets of War: 6
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 8

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 7
A Rite of Passage: 6
Wither: 8
The Shattered Fortress: 7
The Best of Times: 7
The Count of Tuscany: 9

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 4
Your Majesty: 3
A Vision: 6
Two Far: 3
Vital Star: 3
March of the Tyrant: 3
Don't Look Past Me: 6
To Live Forever: 5
Eve: 6
Raise the Knife: 5
Where Are You Now?: 2
The Way It Used to Be: 6
Cover My Eyes: 3
Speak to Me: 7
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: ariich on November 26, 2009, 03:04:07 PM: Just a quick bump to remind people! :)
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: Gorille85 on November 26, 2009, 03:33:45 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 5
Status Seeker: 3
Ytse Jam: 6
The Killing Hand: 7
Light Fuse and Get Away: 2.5
Afterlife: 4.5
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 2
Only a Matter of Time: 5

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 7.5
Another Day: 7
Take the Time: 7.5
Surrounded: 8
Metropolis Pt 1: 9.5
Under a Glass Moon: 7
Wait for Sleep: 6
Learning to Live: 7.5

~Awake~
6:00: 6.5
Caught in a Web: 7
Innocence Faded: 7
Erotomania: 6.5
Voices: 8.5
The Silent Man: 6.5
The Mirror: 8.5
Lie: 6
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7.5
Scarred: 8
Space Dye-Vest: 4

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 6.5
You Not Me: 1
Peruvian Skies: 5
Hollow Years: 8
Burning My Soul: 2
Hell's Kitchen: 7.5
Lines in the Sand: 9
Take Away My Pain: 5
Just Let Me Breathe: 4
Anna Lee: 7
Trial of Tears: 9.5

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 7
Overture 1928: 8
Strange déjà vu: 8
Through My Words: 6
Fatal Tragedy: 7.5
Beyond This Life: 8
Through Her Eyes: 7.5
Home: 8.5
The Dance of Eternity: 5
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 8
Finally Free: 9.5

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 9.5
Blind Faith: 9
Misunderstood: 9.5
The Great Debate: 7.5
Disappear: 8.5
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 6.5
Endless Sacrifice: 6
Honor Thy Father: 8
Vacant: 7
Stream of Consciousness: 8
In the Name of God: 9

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 7.5
The Answer Lies Within: 7
These Walls: 7.5
I Walk Beside You: 6.5
Panic Attack: 6
Never Enough: 5
Sacrificed Sons: 8
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 9
Forsaken: 6
Constant Motion: 6
The Dark Eternal Night: 7
Repentance: 8
Prophets of War: 6
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 7

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9
A Rite of Passage: 6
Wither: 8
The Shattered Fortress: 8
The Best of Times: 7.5
The Count of Tuscany: 9

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 4
To Live Forever: 5.5
Eve: 4
Raise the Knife: 7
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: Portrucci on November 26, 2009, 07:47:52 PM: Regression is a better song than Erotomania? :| Each to their own i guess.

I am eagerly awaiting the results of this thread. Thanks to Aiirch for taking the time to do the hard work :)
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: Slain on November 26, 2009, 09:22:04 PM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 7
Status Seeker: 7
Ytse Jam: 7.5
The Killing Hand: 8
Light Fuse and Get Away: 5
Afterlife: 7.0
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 5
Only a Matter of Time: 5

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 7
Another Day: 7
Take the Time: 8
Surrounded: 8
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 9
Wait for Sleep: 7
Learning to Live: 8

~Awake~
6:00: 8
Caught in a Web: 9
Innocence Faded: 7
Erotomania: 10
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 7
The Mirror: 7.5
Lie: 6
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 5
Scarred: 6
Space Dye-Vest: 8

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millennium: 8
You Not Me: 0 (I just can't stand the chorus of this song, I always cringe...)
Peruvian Skies: 8
Hollow Years: 8.5
Burning My Soul: 6
Hell's Kitchen: 6.5
Lines in the Sand: 8
Take Away My Pain: 6
Just Let Me Breathe: 8
Anna Lee: 6
Trial of Tears: 7

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 8
Overture 1928: 8
Strange déjà vu: 9
Through My Words: 9
Fatal Tragedy: 10
Beyond This Life: 8
Through Her Eyes: 7.5
Home: 10
The Dance of Eternity: 8
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 9
Finally Free: 8

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 8
Blind Faith: 7.5
Misunderstood: 7
The Great Debate: 7
Disappear: 8
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 9
This Dying Soul: 6.5
Endless Sacrifice: 6
Honor Thy Father: 8
Vacant: 5
Stream of Consciousness: 8
In the Name of God: 9.5

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 7.5
The Answer Lies Within: 6
These Walls: 6.5
I Walk Beside You: 6
Panic Attack: 7
Never Enough: 7
Sacrificed Sons: 8
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 8.5
Forsaken: 6
Constant Motion: 6
The Dark Eternal Night: 7.5
Repentance: 6
Prophets of War: 7
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 6.5

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 8
A Rite of Passage: 6.5
Wither: 6.5
The Shattered Fortress: 6.5
The Best of Times: 7
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Raise the Knife: 8
To Live Forever: 5
Another Won: 5
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: Mladen on November 27, 2009, 06:07:39 AM: I'm not sure about some of the songs, but oh well...

~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 9.5
Status Seeker: 7
Ytse Jam: 8
Afterlife: 9

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 10
Another Day: 8
Take the Time: 10
Surrounded: 9
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 10
Wait for Sleep: 9.5
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 10
Caught in a Web: 10
Innocence Faded: 10
Erotomania: 10
Voices: 9.5
The Silent Man: 9
The Mirror: 10
Lie: 8.5
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8.5
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 10

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8
You Not Me: 4
Peruvian Skies: 10
Hollow Years: 8.5
Burning My Soul: 9
Hell's Kitchen: 8
Lines in the Sand: 8
Take Away My Pain: 7
Just Let Me Breathe: 7
Anna Lee: 6
Trial of Tears: 9

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 9
Overture 1928: 10
Strange déjà vu: 10
Through My Words: 9
Fatal Tragedy: 10
Beyond This Life: 10
Through Her Eyes: 9.5
Home: 10
The Dance of Eternity: 10
One Last Time: 10
The Spirit Carries On: 10
Finally Free: 9.5

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 9.5
Misunderstood: 9
The Great Debate: 10
Disappear: 10
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 9.5

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 8
This Dying Soul: 10
Endless Sacrifice: 7
Honor Thy Father: 7
Vacant: 8
Stream of Consciousness: 9.5
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 9
The Answer Lies Within: 7
These Walls: 8
I Walk Beside You: 8
Panic Attack: 10
Never Enough: 9.5
Sacrificed Sons: 7.5
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 10
Forsaken: 8.5
Constant Motion: 10
The Dark Eternal Night: 9
Repentance: 9
Prophets of War: 9
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 10

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9.5
A Rite of Passage: 8
Wither: 9.5
The Shattered Fortress: 9
The Best of Times: 9.5
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 8
Raise the Knife: 10
Cover My Eyes: 9.5
Speak to Me: 8
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: Mat JB on November 27, 2009, 07:19:56 AM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 5
Status Seeker: 5
Ytse Jam: 6
The Killing Hand: 6
Light Fuse and Get Away: 7
Afterlife: 6
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 6
Only a Matter of Time: 7

(Charlie D's girlish whimper and the crap production spoil this album, but this is how I rate them as songs, not recordings.)

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 8
Another Day: 8
Take the Time: 10
Surrounded: 9
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 10
Wait for Sleep: 8
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 8
Caught in a Web: 8
Innocence Faded: 8
Erotomania: 10
Voices: 7
The Silent Man: 8
The Mirror: 7
Lie: 8
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 6
Scarred: 8
Space Dye-Vest: 8

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 8
You Not Me: 4
Peruvian Skies: 5
Hollow Years: 6
Burning My Soul: 5
Hell's Kitchen: 8
Lines in the Sand: 9
Take Away My Pain: 7
Just Let Me Breathe: 5
Anna Lee: 7
Trial of Tears: 9

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 3
Overture 1928: 7
Strange déjà vu: 7
Through My Words: 3
Fatal Tragedy: 8
Beyond This Life: 7
Through Her Eyes: 5
Home: 8
The Dance of Eternity: 8
One Last Time: 7
The Spirit Carries On: 7
Finally Free: 3

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 7
Misunderstood: 7
The Great Debate: 7
Disappear: 6
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 5

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 7
This Dying Soul: 8
Endless Sacrifice: 7
Honor Thy Father: 7
Vacant: 4
Stream of Consciousness: 6
In the Name of God: 7

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 7
The Answer Lies Within: 2
These Walls: 4
I Walk Beside You: 4
Panic Attack: 4
Never Enough: 3
Sacrificed Sons: 3
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 8 Pt1, 6 Pt2
Forsaken: 6
Constant Motion: 7
The Dark Eternal Night: 7
Repentance: 7
Prophets of War: 5
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 6

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 7
A Rite of Passage: 7
Wither: 7
The Shattered Fortress: 9
The Best of Times: 8
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 7
Your Majesty:
A Vision:
Two Far:
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me: 8
To Live Forever: 7
Eve: 7
Raise the Knife: 7
Where Are You Now?: 6
The Way It Used to Be:
Cover My Eyes:
Speak to Me:
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: MirzekDT on November 27, 2009, 10:01:11 AM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 8
Status Seeker: 7
Ytse Jam: 9
The Killing Hand: 9
Light Fuse and Get Away: 8
Afterlife: 9
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 8
Only a Matter of Time: 9

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 9
Another Day: 9
Take the Time: 10
Surrounded: 10
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 9
Wait for Sleep: 10
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 10
Caught in a Web: 9
Innocence Faded: 9
Erotomania: 10
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 10
The Mirror: 10
Lie: 9
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 9
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 9

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 9

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 9
You Not Me: 6
Peruvian Skies: 10
Hollow Years: 8
Burning My Soul: 9
Hell's Kitchen: 10
Lines in the Sand: 10
Take Away My Pain: 8
Just Let Me Breathe: 8
Anna Lee: 8
Trial of Tears: 9

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression: 9
Overture 1928: 10
Strange déjà vu: 10
Through My Words: 8
Fatal Tragedy: 9
Beyond This Life: 8
Through Her Eyes: 9
Home: 10
The Dance of Eternity: 8
One Last Time: 9
The Spirit Carries On: 9
Finally Free: 10

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 8
Blind Faith: 9
Misunderstood: 10
The Great Debate: 10
Disappear: 9
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 8
This Dying Soul: 8
Endless Sacrifice: 7
Honor Thy Father: 9
Vacant: 10
Stream of Consciousness: 10
In the Name of God: 10

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 9
The Answer Lies Within: 9
These Walls: 8
I Walk Beside You: 8
Panic Attack: 9
Never Enough: 8
Sacrificed Sons: 9
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 10
Forsaken: 8
Constant Motion: 9
The Dark Eternal Night: 9
Repentance: 10
Prophets of War: 9
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 10

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 10
A Rite of Passage: 9
Wither: 10
The Shattered Fortress: 10
The Best of Times: 9
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 7
Your Majesty: 6
A Vision: 7
Two Far: 9
Vital Star: 7
March of the Tyrant: 8
Don't Look Past Me: 8
To Live Forever: 9
Eve: 9
Raise the Knife: 9
Where Are You Now?: 7
The Way It Used to Be: 8
Cover My Eyes: 8
Speak to Me: 10
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: tri.ad on November 27, 2009, 10:11:27 AM: ~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 9
Status Seeker: 6.5
Ytse Jam: 8
The Killing Hand: 7
Light Fuse And Get Away: 10
Afterlife: 9
The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun: 8
Only A Matter Of Time: 9.5

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 10
Another Day: 9.5
Take the Time: 10
Surrounded: 9.5
Metropolis Pt 1: 10
Under a Glass Moon: 9.5
Wait for Sleep: 9.5
Learning to Live: 10

~Awake~
6:00: 10
Caught in a Web: 8
Innocence Faded: 7.5
Erotomania: 7
Voices: 10
The Silent Man: 9
The Mirror: 9
Lie: 10
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 10
Scarred: 10
Space Dye-Vest: 9

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 9.5

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium: 7.5
You Not Me: 4.5
Peruvian Skies: 7.5
Hollow Years: 4
Burning My Soul: 6.5
Hell's Kitchen: 10
Lines in the Sand: 10
Take Away My Pain: 4
Just Let Me Breathe: 8
Anna Lee: 7.5
Trial of Tears: 10

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression / Overture 1928: 9
Strange déjà vu: 9
Through My Words / Fatal Tragedy: 9.5
Beyond This Life: 5
Through Her Eyes: 6.5
Home: 8.5
The Dance of Eternity: 0
One Last Time: 4
The Spirit Carries On: 6
Finally Free: 8

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 10
Misunderstood: 9.5
The Great Debate: 9.5
Disappear: 8.5
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 4

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 9.5
This Dying Soul: 3.5
Endless Sacrifice: 5
Honor Thy Father: 5
Vacant: 9.5
Stream of Consciousness: 9
In the Name of God: 9.5

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 9
The Answer Lies Within: 6.5
These Walls: 10
I Walk Beside You: 7
Panic Attack: 9
Never Enough: 5
Sacrificed Sons: 9
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 8
Forsaken: 6
Constant Motion: 8
The Dark Eternal Night: 9
Repentance: 7
Prophets of War: 7
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 8.5

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 9
A Rite of Passage: 7
Wither: 10
The Shattered Fortress: 9.5
The Best of Times: 9
The Count of Tuscany: 10

~Unreleased~
Another Won: 9
Your Majesty: 9
A Vision: N/A
Two Far: N/A
Vital Star: N/A
March Of The Tyrant: N/A
Don't Look Past Me: 7.5
To Live Forever: 10
Eve: 9
Raise the Knife: 10
Where Are You Now?: 6
The Way It Used to Be: 9.5
Cover My Eyes: 5.5
Speak to Me: 9
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: Kartmaze on November 27, 2009, 04:33:33 PM: Is it still okay to leave some blanks?

~When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 6
Status Seeker:
Ytse Jam: 6.5
The Killing Hand:
Light Fuse and Get Away:
Afterlife: 6.5
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun:
Only a Matter of Time:

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 6.5
Another Day: 7
Take the Time: 8
Surrounded: 7
Metropolis Pt 1: 9
Under a Glass Moon: 8
Wait for Sleep: 7.5
Learning to Live: 7.5

~Awake~
6:00: 6.5
Caught in a Web: 7.5
Innocence Faded: 7.5
Erotomania: 8
Voices: 7
The Silent Man: 7
The Mirror: 9
Lie: 7
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7
Scarred: 8
Space Dye-Vest: 6.5

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 9.5

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium:
You Not Me:
Peruvian Skies: 7
Hollow Years: 6
Burning My Soul:
Hell's Kitchen: 8
Lines in the Sand: 6.5
Take Away My Pain:
Just Let Me Breathe:
Anna Lee:
Trial of Tears: 7.5

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression:5.5
Overture 1928: 8
Strange déjà vu: 8
Through My Words: 5.5
Fatal Tragedy: 8.5
Beyond This Life: 6.5
Through Her Eyes: 7
Home: 8
The Dance of Eternity: 8
One Last Time: 7.5
The Spirit Carries On: 7.5
Finally Free: 8

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 8
Blind Faith: 9
Misunderstood: 5.5
The Great Debate: 8.5
Disappear: 7
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 6.5
This Dying Soul: 6.5
Endless Sacrifice: 8
Honor Thy Father: 8.5
Vacant: 7
Stream of Consciousness: 8
In the Name of God: 7.5

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 6
These Walls: 8
I Walk Beside You: 5.5
Panic Attack: 8
Never Enough: 7
Sacrificed Sons: 6.5
Octavarium: 9.5

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 9
Forsaken: 7
Constant Motion: 7
The Dark Eternal Night: 7
Repentance: 6.5
Prophets of War: 6.5
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 8

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 8.5
A Rite of Passage: 6.5
Wither: 8
The Shattered Fortress: 8
The Best of Times: 7.5
The Count of Tuscany: 9

~Unreleased~
Another Won:
Your Majesty:
A Vision:
Two Far:
Vital Star:
March of the Tyrant:
Don't Look Past Me:
To Live Forever:
Eve:
Raise the Knife:
Where Are You Now?:
The Way It Used to Be:
Cover My Eyes:
Speak to Me:
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: growly on November 27, 2009, 05:20:58 PM: When Dream and Day Unite~
A Fortune in Lies: 6
Status Seeker: 5
Ytse Jam: 8
The Killing Hand: 6.5
Light Fuse and Get Away: 6
Afterlife: 6.5
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 5.5
Only a Matter of Time:6

~Images and Words~
Pull Me Under: 7
Another Day: 6
Take the Time: 8.5
Surrounded: 8
Metropolis Pt 1: 9
Under a Glass Moon: 8
Wait for Sleep: 7
Learning to Live: 9.5

~Awake~
6:00: 7
Caught in a Web: 8
Innocence Faded: 7
Erotomania: 9
Voices: 9.5
The Silent Man: 7
The Mirror: 7.5
Lie: 6
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 8
Scarred: 9
Space Dye-Vest: 7.5

~A Change of Seasons~
A Change of Seasons: 10

~Falling Into Infinity~
New Millenium:6
You Not Me:5
Peruvian Skies: 7
Hollow Years: 6.5
Burning My Soul:5
Hell's Kitchen: 9
Lines in the Sand: 9.5
Take Away My Pain:6
Just Let Me Breathe:5
Anna Lee: 8
Trial of Tears: 9

~Scenes From a Memory~
Regression:6.5
Overture 1928: 8
Strange déjà vu: 8
Through My Words: 5.5
Fatal Tragedy: 8.5
Beyond This Life: 6
Through Her Eyes: 6.5
Home: 9
The Dance of Eternity: 8.5
One Last Time: 8
The Spirit Carries On: 7
Finally Free: 9

~Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence~
The Glass Prison: 10
Blind Faith: 8.5
Misunderstood: 7
The Great Debate: 7.5
Disappear: 8
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 10

~Train of Thought~
As I Am: 6.5
This Dying Soul: 8
Endless Sacrifice: 7
Honor Thy Father: 7.5
Vacant: 5.5
Stream of Consciousness: 9
In the Name of God: 9.5

~Octavarium~
The Root of All Evil: 8
The Answer Lies Within: 6
These Walls: 6.5
I Walk Beside You: 7
Panic Attack: 8
Never Enough: 6
Sacrificed Sons: 8.5
Octavarium: 10

~Systematic Chaos~
In The Presence of Enemies: 9
Forsaken: 6
Constant Motion: 6.5
The Dark Eternal Night: 6
Repentance: 7
Prophets of War: 5.5
The Ministry of Lost Souls: 8

~Black Clouds & Silver Linings~
A Nightmare to Remember: 8
A Rite of Passage: 7
Wither: 7
The Shattered Fortress: 8
The Best of Times: 7.5
The Count of Tuscany: 9

~Unreleased~
Another Won:6
Your Majesty:7
A Vision:6
Two Far:5.5
Vital Star:6.5
March of the Tyrant:7
Don't Look Past Me:6
To Live Forever:5.5
Eve:9
Raise the Knife:8
Where Are You Now?:6
The Way It Used to Be:6.5
Cover My Eyes:7
Speak to Me: 6.5
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 27, 2009, 07:36:30 PM: tri,ad - I didn't realize you hadn't posted yours yet, but some of those scores really surprise me. But in the good way :) Good to see someone else appreciating some of the often overlooked tracks.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: tri.ad on November 28, 2009, 12:59:01 AM: Which ones do you mean in particular?
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 28, 2009, 03:31:49 AM: I'm referring to some of the shorter, more straightforward tracks like The Silent Man, Vacant, These Walls etc.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: tri.ad on November 28, 2009, 03:44:55 AM: Ah, yeah. I'm actually one of the guys who don't think that all the "über-epics" are superior to the shorter songs in every way.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 28, 2009, 03:51:45 AM: o/

Well I'm a huge fan of the shorter songs. I appreciate a well constructed, concise song just as much as a 20+ minute epic.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: tri.ad on November 28, 2009, 03:53:24 AM: *\o

Take this, you goddamn interceptors.

But yes, I agree.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: Marvellous G on November 28, 2009, 12:46:23 PM: Just in before the deadline, but I'd be happy to do some of the lesser-famed stuff off of the first disc of SDoIT, such as Misunderstood, Great Debate or Blind Faith. But I don't mind really.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 29, 2009, 09:00:07 AM: sorry, hit quote when I meant to hit modify on an old post.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: setrataeso on November 29, 2009, 11:46:54 AM: Quote from: Marvellous G on November 28, 2009, 12:46:23 PM
Just in before the deadline, but I'd be happy to do some of the lesser-famed stuff off of the first disc of SDoIT, such as Misunderstood, Great Debate or Blind Faith. But I don't mind really.

BACK OFF SHE'S MINE!!!
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: sonatafanica on November 29, 2009, 11:51:21 AM: Quote from: tri.ad on November 28, 2009, 03:44:55 AM
Ah, yeah. I'm actually one of the guys who don't think that all the "über-epics" are superior to the shorter songs in every way.

Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 28, 2009, 03:51:45 AM
o/

Well I'm a huge fan of the shorter songs. I appreciate a well constructed, concise song just as much as a 20+ minute epic.

I kind of laughed lightly at this, because it's like the two rebels of the thread would just be average joe short-song-lovers anywhere else.

DT's fan base is a cool thing.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: Shadow2222 on December 03, 2009, 07:58:52 AM: I'm excited to see the results of these whenever they are posted. I mean, we have so many favorite/least favorite album/song/movements threads, so it will be nice to actually see numbers to represent the songs.
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: tri.ad on December 03, 2009, 10:19:59 AM: Quote from: sonatafanica on November 29, 2009, 11:51:21 AM
Quote from: tri.ad on November 28, 2009, 03:44:55 AM
Ah, yeah. I'm actually one of the guys who don't think that all the "über-epics" are superior to the shorter songs in every way.

Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 28, 2009, 03:51:45 AM
o/

Well I'm a huge fan of the shorter songs. I appreciate a well constructed, concise song just as much as a 20+ minute epic.

I kind of laughed lightly at this, because it's like the two rebels of the thread would just be average joe short-song-lovers anywhere else.

DT's fan base is a cool thing.

You're way off. The fact that I enjoy many short DT songs as much as their long ones doesn't mean that I'm a short-song-lover at all. It's just that the general consensus of the DT fanbase is that longer songs seem to have a better reputation than shorter ones. There's nothing rebellious about saying "I like this 6-minute song better than that 16-minute song".
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: ariich on December 03, 2009, 11:52:55 AM: By the way I'm aware that the deadline is now gone but I've been mentally busy preparing for exams. I'll try and get final results posted up tonight though :)

Results here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=8535.0
Title: Re: Official: DTF's song ratings (deadline: Sat 28 Nov)
Post by: Scurvy!Dreams on December 03, 2009, 12:03:14 PM: Slacker!