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General => Movies and TV => Topic started by: The Letter M on January 18, 2024, 12:50:46 PM
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I figured I'd get a head-start on this thread for the ONLY MCU Film coming out this year. Funnily enough, Sony has three Marvel films of their own, but they're not (as far as it's known) connected to the MCU. Rumor has it that the first teaser trailer will drop during the Super Bowl next month, and I'm sure it'll be the most viewed film teaser of 2024.
Also, in this thread, if you all would like, you can bring up on-set spoilers that have been shown online, but please preface it with SPOILER space beforehand in case someone doesn't want to see them.
As for the "& More" part of the thread title, I wanted to mention that I plan on re-watching all 18 of the 20th Century Fox produced Marvel Films from 2000 to 2020, including the 13 X-Men related film, 3 Fantastic Four films (yes, even the Josh Trank one), Daredevil and Elektra. I haven't watched some of these in well over 10 years, and a couple not at all (I haven't seen all of The Wolverine, or any of The New Mutants), and I don't think I ever really watched the director's cut of Daredevil, which I heard was much better. I'll also have to watch the Rogue Cut of DOFP as well.
And as for Deadpool 3 itself, I'm most excited for the possible cameos and references it'll have to the soon-to-be-defunct (incursioned?) Fox X-Men timeline(s) as Deadpool screws around. And of course, Hugh Jackman FINALLY in costume.
-Marc.
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As for the "& More" part of the thread title, I wanted to mention that I plan on re-watching all 18 of the 20th Century Fox produced Marvel Films from 2000 to 2020, including the 13 X-Men related film, 3 Fantastic Four films (yes, even the Josh Trank one), Daredevil and Elektra. I haven't watched some of these in well over 10 years, and a couple not at all (I haven't seen all of The Wolverine, or any of The New Mutants), and I don't think I ever really watched the director's cut of Daredevil, which I heard was much better. I'll also have to watch the Rogue Cut of DOFP as well.
*shudders*
Don't do it, man.
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As for the "& More" part of the thread title, I wanted to mention that I plan on re-watching all 18 of the 20th Century Fox produced Marvel Films from 2000 to 2020, including the 13 X-Men related film, 3 Fantastic Four films (yes, even the Josh Trank one), Daredevil and Elektra. I haven't watched some of these in well over 10 years, and a couple not at all (I haven't seen all of The Wolverine, or any of The New Mutants), and I don't think I ever really watched the director's cut of Daredevil, which I heard was much better. I'll also have to watch the Rogue Cut of DOFP as well.
*shudders*
Don't do it, man.
(https://i.imgur.com/03cFoMu.jpeg)
That sounds exhausting honestly. But it would be fun to rewatch some of them.
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Still baffled that this will be the only MCU film this year...I mean, I get it as to why, and hopefully we'll all get a fresh perspective from the break in content (especially the production teams lol), but it's just weird not to have something on the immediate horizon.
I also wouldn't be surprised to see DP3 threaten some box office records, based on the popularity of the specific franchise and the lack of other products this year.
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I'm a huge Daredevil fan. My second fav superhero next to Batman and Robin. That film with annoying Affleck is very dated, including the director's cut. The dc IS better, and overall, it's not bad, per se, but I'd rather re-watch the Netflix series again, and again, and again.
Excited for DP3.
My hope is DP3 retains its edge, without jumping the shark. Bringing it into the MCU...yes, but it has to be done in a way that is authentic to how the character really is. So far, so good with DP2, but this will be a big test, IMO. And loving the idea of Hugh Jackman finally in costume. Wolverine is my third fav "super" hero, so all good stuff here for me.
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Not just Wolverine in costume, but letting him cut loose in an R-rated movie with Ryan Reynolds. The trash talking could be absolutely hilarious if Disney lets Deadpool keep his vulgar mouth.
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I'd like an engaging story and great character moments that make me care about more than cameos and Easter eggs.
Though some great cameos and Easter eggs are always welcome on top of that.
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I'd like an engaging story and great character moments that make me care about more than cameos and Easter eggs.
Though some great cameos and Easter eggs are always welcome on top of that.
Fully agreed. Given how integral Ryan Reynolds has been with the franchise and character thus far, I doubt he'd deliver anything less-than the first two.
Looking at how MCU third-films in a single character franchise have improved over the years (IM3 has its fans but is generally overlooked by most; Civil War is typically a fan favorite though most Cap fans will cite TWS as their favorite of the three; Ragnarok is arguably the best Thor film; No Way Home was a billion-dollar maker, but it had 20 years of Spider-Man cinema under its feet to lift it; and GOTG Vol. 3 is one of the best post-Endgame MCU films), I have high hopes for Deadpool 3 to be one of the best.
-Marc.
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I'd like an engaging story and great character moments that make me care about more than cameos and Easter eggs.
Though some great cameos and Easter eggs are always welcome on top of that.
Fully agreed. Given how integral Ryan Reynolds has been with the franchise and character thus far, I doubt he'd deliver anything less-than the first two.
Looking at how MCU third-films in a single character franchise have improved over the years (IM3 has its fans but is generally overlooked by most; Civil War is typically a fan favorite though most Cap fans will cite TWS as their favorite of the three; Ragnarok is arguably the best Thor film; No Way Home was a billion-dollar maker, but it had 20 years of Spider-Man cinema under its feet to lift it; and GOTG Vol. 3 is one of the best post-Endgame MCU films), I have high hopes for Deadpool 3 to be one of the best.
-Marc.
Quantumania though......
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I'd like an engaging story and great character moments that make me care about more than cameos and Easter eggs.
Though some great cameos and Easter eggs are always welcome on top of that.
Fully agreed. Given how integral Ryan Reynolds has been with the franchise and character thus far, I doubt he'd deliver anything less-than the first two.
Looking at how MCU third-films in a single character franchise have improved over the years (IM3 has its fans but is generally overlooked by most; Civil War is typically a fan favorite though most Cap fans will cite TWS as their favorite of the three; Ragnarok is arguably the best Thor film; No Way Home was a billion-dollar maker, but it had 20 years of Spider-Man cinema under its feet to lift it; and GOTG Vol. 3 is one of the best post-Endgame MCU films), I have high hopes for Deadpool 3 to be one of the best.
-Marc.
Quantumania though......
Oh.... perhaps I forgot that one on purpose. Let's forget that one ever happened...
-Marc.
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Read the quote
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2Umu6fO9A1/
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Back on the roids
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Reynolds posted on IG with a close up to part of the Deadpool suit
The suit hides blood. Also sweat... But today, with Deadpool wrapping, it's mostly tears. A giant and forever thanks to the cast and crew of our film who battled wind, rain, strikes and @thehughjackman... all under the stalwart leadership of @slevydirect
I got to make a movie with my closest pals and that doesn't happen very often. See ya July 26th... X
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I'm glad he's excited about it, but it's still probably a hard skip for me. My interest level is only slightly above zero.
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I'm curious about it.
Deadpool 1 was fantastic. Deadpool 2 was good but kind of became too much of a comic book movie for me.
I appreciate that, like Deadpool 1, almost all of the leaked photos have been from one or so scenes. In the first deadpool, it was the highway stuff, and here's the wolverine fight. So I'm curious what the rest of the movie is.
It could be amazing, or could be terrible if they tried to go too comic book movie with it all. But I'm eager for a trailer.
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I'm curious about it.
Deadpool 1 was fantastic. Deadpool 2 was good but kind of became too much of a comic book movie for me.
I appreciate that, like Deadpool 1, almost all of the leaked photos have been from one or so scenes. In the first deadpool, it was the highway stuff, and here's the wolverine fight. So I'm curious what the rest of the movie is.
It could be amazing, or could be terrible if they tried to go too comic book movie with it all. But I'm eager for a trailer.
Might not need to wait that long since we might get a teaser for the Super Bowl.
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This is the only MCU thing happening that I'm really invested in. The first one is about perfect in my book. The second was good too. Can Marvel still make great movies? I kinda doubt it but I really hope so.
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Just going to put this here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uJMCNJP2ipI
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dammit... beat me to it.
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Nice.
Not much there, but I dug the vibe. Action looks.....like I'd expect from the director, but given the over the top character, I'm fine with it.
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So according to the closed captions, we've got Agent Paradox with the TVA, as well as PYRO, who I can't be too sure if he's played by the same actor from the earlier X-Men films, but it's fun to see the character again!
I've watched this trailer a dozen times now, and once at .25x speed and saw some fun stuff, especially in the monitors at the TVA, and the thing that grabs a TVA Agent (which definitely looks like Alioth and that they're in the Void from Loki).
-Marc.
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Pyro, yes. That's who that was. Yes, that was the same actor.
Marvel Jesus is coming to save the MCU.
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Pyro, yes. That's who that was. Yes, that was the same actor.
Marvel Jesus is coming to save the MCU.
I noticed a a Secret Wars comic when the shadow of Wolverine is almost in front of Deadpool
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Ooof! Can't wait.
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I'm trying to reign in my expectations based on recent Marvel content, but this looks awesome.
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I love the broken 20th Century Fox Studios logo. :lol
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I love the broken 20th Century Fox Studios logo. :lol
Same
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This was just the spark I needed to actually go and get caught up on the last few shows/movies.
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I wasn't as big a fan of DP 2 as I was DP 1. But still, love the character. This is going to be epic.
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I love the broken 20th Century Fox Studios logo. :lol
This was pretty prominently seen in the outdoors filming location that got leaked out last year. It's a very real prop and that whole set was practically done (but will probably also be touched up with VFX). I'm so glad they included it in the trailer, but it was also part of the filming done in the first part of their production, so they've had that footage for awhile now. I think the implication is that the logo, and perhaps the studio/Fox Marvel Universe was all sent to the Void, which is hilarious to me.
Pyro, yes. That's who that was. Yes, that was the same actor.
Marvel Jesus is coming to save the MCU.
I noticed a a Secret Wars comic when the shadow of Wolverine is almost in front of Deadpool
I hope Deadpool remarks about the comic and asks which version of Secret Wars they're going to be in (a la his quip about which version of Professor X he was going to see in the first Deadpool).
-Marc.
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After seeing the trailer a few times, I'm wondering if we will get to see Gambit in this movie. Since the Channing Tatum movie was cancelled, maybe he plays a cameo (similar to Wolverine Origins).
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After seeing the trailer a few times, I'm wondering if we will get to see Gambit in this movie. Since the Channing Tatum movie was cancelled, maybe he plays a cameo (similar to Wolverine Origins).
Lots of folks seem to theorize that he might be the card dealer obscured by who many presume to be Patch, the Madripoor-alter-ego of Wolverine, see in the trailer in a white suit at the card table.
-Marc.
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After seeing the trailer a few times, I'm wondering if we will get to see Gambit in this movie. Since the Channing Tatum movie was cancelled, maybe he plays a cameo (similar to Wolverine Origins).
Lots of folks seem to theorize that he might be the card dealer obscured by who many presume to be Patch, the Madripoor-alter-ego of Wolverine, see in the trailer in a white suit at the card table.
-Marc.
That's not a bad place for a quick Gambit cameo. Hadn't thought of that.
I also wonder if Hugh will play all of the Logan variants or if they will bring in other actors for a few like Patch.
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After seeing the trailer a few times, I'm wondering if we will get to see Gambit in this movie. Since the Channing Tatum movie was cancelled, maybe he plays a cameo (similar to Wolverine Origins).
Lots of folks seem to theorize that he might be the card dealer obscured by who many presume to be Patch, the Madripoor-alter-ego of Wolverine, see in the trailer in a white suit at the card table.
-Marc.
That's not a bad place for a quick Gambit cameo. Hadn't thought of that.
I also wonder if Hugh will play all of the Logan variants or if they will bring in other actors for a few like Patch.
It would be hilarious to see other actors portray Logan, especially if they follow the often fan-cast actors like Daniel Radcliffe or the like. I mean, if they could get Krasinski to be Reed Richards for 10 minutes in Doctor Strange ITMOM, they maybe non-Hugh Logans are a possibility as well! The logic for variants being different actors or the same hasn't been consistent either (different Spider-Men and Lokis, but Wanda and Strange are the same?).
-Marc.
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That's one thing I loved about Loki season 1 and No Way Home.
Always having it be the same actor just feels boring. Sometimes if it's a character we haven't seen in a long time or never in the MCU (like Professor X and Black Bolt in Dr. Strange) then the same actor is fun.
But we already know Hugh is in this, so it would be cool to have a few different actors have a quick cameo as a different Logan. I'd also love different people playing Deadpool. Seems we're getting at least 2 from Ryan and of course a dog. Hoping they have some fun with variants. Richard E Grant was one of my favorite castings of a variant so far. I liked that some of the Loki's were Tom and many more were others. Keeps it interesting.
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That's one thing I loved about Loki season 1 and No Way Home.
Always having it be the same actor just feels boring. Sometimes if it's a character we haven't seen in a long time or never in the MCU (like Professor X and Black Bolt in Dr. Strange) then the same actor is fun.
But we already know Hugh is in this, so it would be cool to have a few different actors have a quick cameo as a different Logan. I'd also love different people playing Deadpool. Seems we're getting at least 2 from Ryan and of course a dog. Hoping they have some fun with variants. Richard E Grant was one of my favorite castings of a variant so far. I liked that some of the Loki's were Tom and many more were others. Keeps it interesting.
I read something that the trailer hints that Wanda Wilson (AKA LadyPool) will make an appearance, though that is not confirmed of course.
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That's one thing I loved about Loki season 1 and No Way Home.
Always having it be the same actor just feels boring. Sometimes if it's a character we haven't seen in a long time or never in the MCU (like Professor X and Black Bolt in Dr. Strange) then the same actor is fun.
But we already know Hugh is in this, so it would be cool to have a few different actors have a quick cameo as a different Logan. I'd also love different people playing Deadpool. Seems we're getting at least 2 from Ryan and of course a dog. Hoping they have some fun with variants. Richard E Grant was one of my favorite castings of a variant so far. I liked that some of the Loki's were Tom and many more were others. Keeps it interesting.
I read something that the trailer hints that Wanda Wilson (AKA LadyPool) will make an appearance, though that is not confirmed of course.
Trailer doesn't hint at it, but it's definitely been rumored. Though every character every on screen has been rumored to be in this movie.
Except Pyro, who actually is in the movie.
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That's one thing I loved about Loki season 1 and No Way Home.
Always having it be the same actor just feels boring. Sometimes if it's a character we haven't seen in a long time or never in the MCU (like Professor X and Black Bolt in Dr. Strange) then the same actor is fun.
But we already know Hugh is in this, so it would be cool to have a few different actors have a quick cameo as a different Logan. I'd also love different people playing Deadpool. Seems we're getting at least 2 from Ryan and of course a dog. Hoping they have some fun with variants. Richard E Grant was one of my favorite castings of a variant so far. I liked that some of the Loki's were Tom and many more were others. Keeps it interesting.
I read something that the trailer hints that Wanda Wilson (AKA LadyPool) will make an appearance, though that is not confirmed of course.
Trailer doesn't hint at it, but it's definitely been rumored. Though every character every on screen has been rumored to be in this movie.
Except Pyro, who actually is in the movie.
Which is funny because I don't think anyone had heard Pyro would be in the film, which means his scenes were probably shot on a soundstage or an enclosed area, and his casting wasn't leaked to anyone.
-Marc.
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I saw a picture today on the set, and there's a guy that probably will play Bollywood Deadpool :rollin
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzJRypih_Js
Still my most favorite Deadpool moment: SUCK A COCK.....!
:rollin
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Second trailer out now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cen0rBKLuYE
:metal :hefdaddy
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Let's Fucking Go indeed!
I'm so jacked for this.
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That looks so fucking good. Can't wait :hat :metal
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Digging that a lot.
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Spotted Lady Deathstrike and Azazel in there by the Giant Man helmet. This is gonna be insane!
-Marc.
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Spotted Lady Deathstrike and Azazel in there by the Giant Man helmet. This is gonna be insane!
-Marc.
Missed that! But I wasn’t doing a deep dive. I’m sure someone will post eventually every bit I missed.
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I haven't been following any news or spoilers, so I'm assuming that's a variant of The Ancient One?
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I haven't been following any news or spoilers, so I'm assuming that's a variant of The Ancient One?
Not sure if you're trying to avoid spoilers or not, but I don't think that's the case.
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Not sure if you're trying to avoid spoilers or not, but I don't think that's the case.
Correct.
I can put who it seemingly is in small font if you’d like. Or you can just go and see it and be like “….who?”
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I can put who it seemingly is in small font if you’d like. Or you can just go and see it and be like “….who?”
Pretty much. Never heard/knew of that character. I guess if it's on imdb, it's not much of a spoiler. ;)
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I know everyone has their own preferred way of going into movies like this that are based on characters and, sometimes, storylines from other media, but for me, I don't really care too much about character spoilers. I haven't really read comics in ages, so there have been a number of characters in the MCU that I had no prior knowledge of. I never really worried about it either way because these films and TV shows, for the most part, don't really rely heavily on prior knowledge of characters from the books. And I can't really think of a single instance in the MCU where knowing or not knowing a character in advance impacted my enjoyment.
That said, the last word in the above paragraph is the key for me, and I just can't find any reason to be personally interested in this movie. My interest was already near zero, and, if anything, this trailer moved the needle backward for me.
EDIT: And with regard to my last comments, not trying to be a downer, and my desire is not to put down something that others are clearly interested in. I'm just really disinterested for the following reasons:
1. I have really disliked the Deadpool films to this point. Back in the '80s and '90s, I really liked the character. And I get why this interpretation of him is so edgy, but to me, making him THAT edgy and R-rated as he has been in the films was just trying too hard for something that ultimately just made the character overly juvenile and crass, and just didn't work at all for me. So I am disappointed him the big screen treatment of the character and in the films in general.
2. I think the big screen treatment of the X-Men has largely been a debacle as well, although not to the extent as Deadpool. I used to love the X-Men as a kid, but I have cooled off on them considerably, and the big screen treatment of them has not been kind, IMO. No desire to see them cross over into the MCU proper (I actually think that how they were attempting to integrate the inhumans through Agents of SHIELD was very well done, and I wish that would have borne more fruit).
3. Related to #2, the multiverse saga overall in the MCU has been really hit-and-miss, with more misses than hits for me, especially when they try to retcon in other Marvel properties and films. That really goes more to my disappointment in the MCU as a whole after phase 3, but that is a factor in this as well.
Those factors all really just leave me not being the least bit excited about this movie, and as far as I'm concerned, the MCU is just taking a break for 2024. Again, I don't mean to take away from others' enjoyment, but just sharing my own thoughts.
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I know everyone has their own preferred way of going into movies like this that are based on characters and, sometimes, storylines from other media, but for me, I don't really care too much about character spoilers. I haven't really read comics in ages, so there have been a number of characters in the MCU that I had no prior knowledge of. I never really worried about it either way because these films and TV shows, for the most part, don't really rely heavily on prior knowledge of characters from the books. And I can't really think of a single instance in the MCU where knowing or not knowing a character in advance impacted my enjoyment.
That said, the last word in the above paragraph is the key for me, and I just can't find any reason to be personally interested in this movie. My interest was already near zero, and, if anything, this trailer moved the needle backward for me.
Is it the naughty language?
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Is it the naughty language?
I just expanded on my thoughts above, but I'll respond to that directly. I mean, for me, I would prefer if there wasn't any. But that said, I don't expect movies to cater to my own personal ideal world.* It would be great if all the MCU movies used only clean language. But they don't. It's disappointing to me, but by itself isn't going to kill my enjoyment of a movie too much, as long as it is within reasonable bounds. And that said, I do think the Deadpool movies cross that line for me in that department. It's just too constant, too crass, and too...too much, I guess. That falls within my #1 above, but it isn't the only aspect of #1.
*The sentence I starred can sometimes be context-specific as well though. For instance, I wouldn't expect Full Metal Jacket to be PG in the language department. For a movie with the goal of hyper-realism in showing the extreme nature of Marine Corps boot camp during the Vietnam era and the horrors of that war itself, the language is suitable and somewhat necessary for what Kubrick is trying to do.
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And *this* is the Deadpool character. Marvel was just never able to fully develop it as such in main-stream comic book form. So if one is to base things on that comparison, and has an issue with vulgarity, then yeah... naturally they're going to be immensely disappointed.
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I'm not a fan of gratuitous language especially in music, but I think it just fits in Deadpool's universe. I've never read any Deadpool comics, and I've seen opinions that the movie version is a poor interpretation, but I like that juvenile potty humor. He's supposed to be insane from the cancer so it fits. It can go too far into lame or cringe of course, but I think it's a nice balance for me. I wouldn't mind if Ryan Reynolds played Deadpool exclusively for the rest of his career, because I've seen him in other movies with the same energy and it was not good. Red Notice is a good example of Reynolds doing his shtick and not being funny. Harsh language works when used to add emphasis or emotion. I think the point of the Deadpool movies is the gratuity. It's outlandish and vulgar, and just crazy like he is. If it was a normal MCU movie, but the characters were swearing up a storm, it would be off-putting for sure.
To use music as an example, swearing in music doesn't bother me if it's used sparingly, but there are some exceptions. I still listen to early Disturbed and Godsmack albums on occasion, and with Godsmack especially, the songs were full of swearing, but the music was heavy and the lyrics were angry. It worked. Now let's go to Taylor Swift's recent output. Maybe I just need to take one of those college classes to fully understand the lyrics, but her songs don't sound angry to me. The cuss words are there just to fill syllables and add nothing. It's lame and cringe. Edgy in the worst way. Her older stuff had angry break up lyrics and she didn't swear then. Now she's older and swearing and it's just dumb.
They could probably make a proper PG-13 Deadpool movie and it would be just as entertaining. The gore would be missed, but as long as the action and comedy was on point, I wouldn't mind.
I agree that the X-Men movies are all over the place in terms of quality. Days of Future Past kinda fixed that, but they went off the rails again. The first 2 movies are pretty fun. I'm expecting the MCU X-Men to be a live action version of the animated series. Everything the Fox movies weren't. It could be amazing.
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And *this* is the Deadpool character. Marvel was just never able to fully develop it as such in main-stream comic book form. So if one is to base things on that comparison, and has an issue with vulgarity, then yeah... naturally they're going to be immensely disappointed.
Yeah, I mean, I'm NOT saying Deadpool movies shouldn't be made or anything. Just that I'm not a fan and have no interest personally.
@Zook, yeah, good points all around.
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They could probably make a proper PG-13 Deadpool movie and it would be just as entertaining. The gore would be missed, but as long as the action and comedy was on point, I wouldn't mind.
Note that there is a PG-13 version of Deadpool 2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadpool_2#Once_Upon_a_Deadpool).
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I'm all for gratuitous language and gore....bring it on fuckers :metal
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Note that there is a PG-13 version of Deadpool 2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadpool_2#Once_Upon_a_Deadpool).
That’s why I said proper. One written specifically to be PG13. Not an R rated movie chopped up to be PG13.
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Note that there is a PG-13 version of Deadpool 2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadpool_2#Once_Upon_a_Deadpool).
Is it 10 minutes long?
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They shot Fred Savage telling the story to his kid like him in The Princess Bride. It's actually funny.
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They shot Fred Savage telling the story to his kid like him in The Princess Bride. It's actually funny.
This. jingle.son and I went to see it in the theater. It was pretty good.
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So a little thing I just noticed in the trailer that I hope it's just an Easter egg and not a cameo. Small font in case someone doesn't want to know.
The car shown at 1:54 has an Iron-Man hood-ornament, and I believe is the same car from IM1 that tony was working on.
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So a little thing I just noticed in the trailer that I hope it's just an Easter egg and not a cameo. Small font in case someone doesn't want to know.
The car shown at 1:54 has an Iron-Man hood-ornament, and I believe is the same car from IM1 that tony was working on.
Yea, I didn't catch that. But I can't see it being anything more than a nod.