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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: Sigz on May 07, 2009, 02:47:17 PM
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I know there are fans here, and I'm looking for a good place to start. Recommendations?
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they have one good song
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I started with the Downward Spiral. It's pretty good, but it's as far as I've gotten so far.
That probably doesn't help. Sorry. :P
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they have one good song
I know there are fans here,
Read: not people who list them as one of the worst bands in the world.
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start with either Pretty Hate Machine or The Downward Spiral
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upon futher thought, The Downward Spiral is probably more accessible.
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if you don't like either one of those albums, check out All That Could Have Been. it's a live album, and has most of their popular songs. some are done differently than the normal studio versions as well; they are arranged to be more rock-oriented
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they have one good song
Fuck, every thread I've seen you on you have horrible taste in music.
Anyway, The Downward Spiral is their best to start with (and probably my favorite). The Fragile is also amazing, but it's pretty long and will take a while to digest. If you're not liking TDS, check out All That Could Have Been. Fantastic live album.
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they have one good song
Fuck, every thread I've seen you on you have horrible taste in music.
Anyway, The Downward Spiral is their best to start with (and probably my favorite). The Fragile is also amazing, but it's pretty long and will take a while to digest. If you're not liking TDS, check out All That Could Have Been. Fantastic live album.
your wrong
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What about his wrong?
Just out of curiousity how old are you? I feel like we could chill, maybe sit around smokin' butts behind bleachers or something.
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What about his wrong?
Just out of curiousity how old are you? I feel like we could chill, maybe sit around smokin' butts behind bleachers or something.
:lol
I only started listening to them recently, I would say to start with The Downward Spiral and With Teeth.
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My fiance worships them. They're pretty good.
Favorite song has to be Reptile. In fact, I'm gonna try to cover it without any industrial elements. All acoustic drums, and so forth, just using interesting recording and mixing techniques to make it sound semi industrial. With possibly a female singer. And cowbell.
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A Warm Place -> Hurt is probably the best progression of songs to finish and album I've heard in some time.
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hurt is good, the rest of the songs i hear are :tdwn :tdwn
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I guarantee Reptile is more brutal than anything you listen to, since that's what you seem to judge music on.
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I guarantee Reptile is more brutal than anything you listen to, since that's what you seem to judge music on.
I agree that Reptile is awesome, but he just said "hurt" was good. So I doubt being brutal was a factor. It's probably because it was a very trendy song for a while.
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kermit the frog does a better version of hurt
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They're ok. It doesn't matter though since I never gave them an honest listen.
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kermit the frog does a better version of hurt
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they have one good song
Fuck, every thread I've seen you on you have horrible taste in music.
Anyway, The Downward Spiral is their best to start with (and probably my favorite). The Fragile is also amazing, but it's pretty long and will take a while to digest. If you're not liking TDS, check out All That Could Have Been. Fantastic live album.
your wrong
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they have one good song
Fuck, every thread I've seen you on you have horrible taste in music.
Anyway, The Downward Spiral is their best to start with (and probably my favorite). The Fragile is also amazing, but it's pretty long and will take a while to digest. If you're not liking TDS, check out All That Could Have Been. Fantastic live album.
your wrong
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As an addition to this, Wrath, it might just be better if you stop posting your opinion.
Now back to the NiN discussion. I could never get into this band. I downloaded their album The Slip when it was available for free, and I thought it had a few good songs, but nothing all that great. I might try out these albums sometime, but from the other individual songs I've heard before (I don't remember the names of any of them since it has been a while) it might just be that they don't appeal to me all that much.
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they have one good song
Fuck, every thread I've seen you on you have horrible taste in music.
Anyway, The Downward Spiral is their best to start with (and probably my favorite). The Fragile is also amazing, but it's pretty long and will take a while to digest. If you're not liking TDS, check out All That Could Have Been. Fantastic live album.
your wrong
Dude, seriously, I'm not asking if they're good, I'm asking FANS what a good album to start with. You, my failtastic friend, are not a fan. You like one song, and said the rest is bad. Thus, you are not a fan, and do not belong in this thread. Please, with all due respect, get the fuck out.
Anyway, The Downward Spiral is their best to start with (and probably my favorite). The Fragile is also amazing, but it's pretty long and will take a while to digest. If you're not liking TDS, check out All That Could Have Been. Fantastic live album.
Allright, then I'll try out TDS, thanks!
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The three most recent albums are really, really different from the rest of them. Downward Spiral is pretty much nothing like The Slip.
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Get The Fragile, The Downward Spiral, Pretty Hate Machine and Year Zero NOW!
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I had Wrath pegged for Closer, since it has the word FUCK in it. However, I'll definitely check out Kermit's version of Hurt.
On topic, everybody has suggested either TDS or PHM and they're probably right. I think I'd lean towards PHM, but either way, these are your best starting points.
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I started with TDS and was a pretty good start, then With Teeth, PHM, and all the others after
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I feel like I'm usually the minority but Year Zero is really good.
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Kermit's version of Hurt was nowhere near as good as his cover of Radiohead's Creep. I'll stick with Trent.
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Kermit's version of Hurt was nowhere near as good as his cover of Radiohead's Creep. I'll stick with Trent.
Well, it's the same as the Johnny Cash version just with the original lyrics (crown of shit instead of thorns), and the Johnny Cash version is a travesty, so...:D
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I feel like I'm usually the minority but Year Zero is really good.
Nope, I love this album. Probably my 3rd favorite behind The Downward Spiral and The Fragile.
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Kermit's version of Hurt was nowhere near as good as his cover of Radiohead's Creep. I'll stick with Trent.
Well, it's the same as the Johnny Cash version just with the original lyrics (crown of shit instead of thorns), and the Johnny Cash version is a travesty, so...:D
I'm glad I'm not the only one. I feel like there's way more emotion behind the original version than Cash's version, though most people like Cash's version better for some reason.
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Here's a band that's best and worst are poles apart and it is very important to stay away from their garbage material.
My favourite album is the fragile, 2 cd's worth of incredible music, the right blend of instrumentals and vocal tracks and a splendid lesson.
The downward spiral is also fantastic but I rank it a fair bit lower than the fragile. though hurt, march of the pigs, reptile and a warm place are incredible.
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I'd say start with TDS or The Fragile. Most fans regard them as two of NIN's absolute best works. Of the two, TDS is a bit more accessible, but if you're in the mood for a musical journey that's going to take you everywhere and back, The Fragile is your best bet.
With Teeth is probably their most commercial album, and while half the songs are good (The Hand That Feeds, Right Where It Belongs, the underrated Sunspots), the other half are mediocre at best.
Year Zero really divides fans. Personally, it's my favorite NIN album, but to my best friend who got me into NIN in the first place, Year Zero was the final nail in the coffin for her idolizing Reznor. With that said, I still give it three enthusiastic thumbs up.
The Slip is like With Teeth, in that half I like, half I hate. All I have to say.
Regarding Pretty Hate Machine, it easily sounds less like NIN than anything else, due to being so spectacularly 80's. Going from PHM to TDS would be like WDADU to I&W, times two. Though it has some great songs, you can find heavier, more energetic versions of most of them on the live CD/DVD And All That Could Have Been, or even Beside You In Time.
Broken is kind've like PHM, in that all the best songs on there have better live versions elsewhere, plus it's so damn short. Ghosts is good, but it's not really representative of what Nails is about as a whole.
Anyway, just my thoughts. Hope that helps. I'll be seeing them on the 29th, so I'm thinking that'll probably rekindle my NIN love.
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listen to what leeharvey said
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I'd say start with TDS or The Fragile. Most fans regard them as two of NIN's absolute best works. Of the two, TDS is a bit more accessible, but if you're in the mood for a musical journey that's going to take you everywhere and back, The Fragile is your best bet.
With Teeth is probably their most commercial album, and while half the songs are good (The Hand That Feeds, Right Where It Belongs, the underrated Sunspots), the other half are mediocre at best.
Year Zero really divides fans. Personally, it's my favorite NIN album, but to my best friend who got me into NIN in the first place, Year Zero was the final nail in the coffin for her idolizing Reznor. With that said, I still give it three enthusiastic thumbs up.
The Slip is like With Teeth, in that half I like, half I hate. All I have to say.
Regarding Pretty Hate Machine, it easily sounds less like NIN than anything else, due to being so spectacularly 80's. Going from PHM to TDS would be like WDADU to I&W, times two. Though it has some great songs, you can find heavier, more energetic versions of most of them on the live CD/DVD And All That Could Have Been, or even Beside You In Time.
Broken is kind've like PHM, in that all the best songs on there have better live versions elsewhere, plus it's so damn short. Ghosts is good, but it's not really representative of what Nails is about as a whole.
Anyway, just my thoughts. Hope that helps. I'll be seeing them on the 29th, so I'm thinking that'll probably rekindle my NIN love.
Awesome, looks like TDS and The Fragile are gonna be my next purchases. The Fragile sounds really interesting.
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I would start with Pretty Hate Machine and The Downward Spiral, then on to Fragile.
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The fragile IS really interesting.
Also, LeeHarvey is exactly right about pretty hate machine. The version of terrible lie on All that could have been is 10000000x better than the version on PHM.
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The Broken EP is great, and probably the heaviest thing they've done. The Downward Spiral is definitely the best place to start.
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I'll go ahead and recommend Pretty Hate Machine, The Downward Spiral, Broken, and Fixed.
God do I love old Nine Inch Nails.
They're also fantastic live...do yourself a favor and go see them if you get a chance.
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Kermit's version of Hurt was nowhere near as good as his cover of Radiohead's Creep. I'll stick with Trent.
Well, it's the same as the Johnny Cash version just with the original lyrics (crown of shit instead of thorns), and the Johnny Cash version is a travesty, so...:D
I'm glad I'm not the only one. I feel like there's way more emotion behind the original version than Cash's version, though most people like Cash's version better for some reason.
I definitely prefer the original version. But Cash's version is still pretty good. It still carries a lot of emotional weight behind it, even though it's not as powerful as Trent's version. Although I think a lot of it has to do with the vocals.
Either way, Cash's version is easily more commercial, so it makes sense that people prefer it. Sadly enough.
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I still think Trent's version is much more emotional in terms of the album, especially after The Downward Spiral. I mean he's practically crying when he's singing it. Cash's version is good on it's own though since you compared it to singularity.
The Broken EP is great, and probably the heaviest thing they've done. The Downward Spiral is definitely the best place to start.
Oh yeah. Broken has some awesome stuff on it. Last, Happiness In Slavery. So good.
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I still think Trent's version is much more emotional in terms of the album, especially after The Downward Spiral. I mean he's practically crying when he's singing it. Cash's version is good on it's own though since you compared it to singularity.
The Broken EP is great, and probably the heaviest thing they've done. The Downward Spiral is definitely the best place to start.
Oh yeah. Broken has some awesome stuff on it. Last, Happiness In Slavery. So good.
Though And All That Could Have Been's version of Gave Up spanks the studio version with a paddle.
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I feel like I'm usually the minority but Year Zero is really good.
It is good. It took a while to grow on me tho
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I feel like I'm usually the minority but Year Zero is really good.
Year Zero is my favorite nin album post-TDS, and probably third all time (TDS, Broken).
Nine Inch Nails surpassed Radiohead as my favorite band. NIN was #1 for a long, long time, and recently Radiohead bumped them off... but NIN came back real hard after I saw the setlists for the recent tour and it's such a shame I can't catch any of the shows.
Also, interesting note: I found the cloth/limited special edition of AATCHB/Still at FYE today for $20. What a bargain!
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I think Nine Inch Nails was always kind of fated to be the story of one guy's destruction. Hell, titles like "The Downward Spiral" and "the Self-Destruct tour" proved eerily prophetic. We were always watching a man watching his own slide to ruin. It was beautiful, it was chilling, and it was so real it made Trent the poster-boy for "Rock Casualties Waiting to Happen."
What no one expected was that "Nine Inch Nails" would also become a story about return, redemption, and recovery. "With Teeth" saw him finding his footing again by grabbing on to classic rock sounds, even conjuring a screaming crowd on the last track. "Year Zero" was indicative of his new social and political awareness: opening up to a world beyond himself. "The Slip" and "Ghosts" were both symptoms of a new, sober, overactive creativity and vessels for his varyed business experiments. The internet has given him the freedom none of his million-dollar record contracts or countless legal fights could.
Now we see him sober, happy, stable, creative, successful, loving and secure in the knowledge that he's loved. They say the only difference between a happy ending and a sad ending is where you run out of film. I can't blame Trent for wanting to cut the film right here and let NIN stand as a paragon for what you can survive and achieve, if you just keep fighting.
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Extremely well put, man.
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The Fragile is my favorite record of theirs, but I guess I'm in the minority on that one.
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I think Nine Inch Nails was always kind of fated to be the story of one guy's destruction. Hell, titles like "The Downward Spiral" and "the Self-Destruct tour" proved eerily prophetic. We were always watching a man watching his own slide to ruin. It was beautiful, it was chilling, and it was so real it made Trent the poster-boy for "Rock Casualties Waiting to Happen."
What no one expected was that "Nine Inch Nails" would also become a story about return, redemption, and recovery. "With Teeth" saw him finding his footing again by grabbing on to classic rock sounds, even conjuring a screaming crowd on the last track. "Year Zero" was indicative of his new social and political awareness: opening up to a world beyond himself. "The Slip" and "Ghosts" were both symptoms of a new, sober, overactive creativity and vessels for his varyed business experiments. The internet has given him the freedom none of his million-dollar record contracts or countless legal fights could.
Now we see him sober, happy, stable, creative, successful, loving and secure in the knowledge that he's loved. They say the only difference between a happy ending and a sad ending is where you run out of film. I can't blame Trent for wanting to cut the film right here and let NIN stand as a paragon for what you can survive and achieve, if you just keep fighting.
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Pretty much this. You win the thread.
The Fragile is my favorite record of theirs, but I guess I'm in the minority on that one.
The Fragile is a fantastic album, and musically it's my favorite, but Year Zero still edges it out for personal reasons.
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YZ is a very, very close to TDS for me in terms of favorite albums.
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Superbump:
I know nothing about NIN besides the fact that Trent Reznor seems like a pretty sweet dude after watching him on Digg Dialogg. I downloaded The Slip from their website. Bad choice?
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Superbump:
I know nothing about NIN besides the fact that Trent Reznor seems like a pretty sweet dude after watching him on Digg Dialogg. I downloaded The Slip from their website. Bad choice?
Not really, I mean its far from their best, but it's still a great listen.
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Superbump:
I know nothing about NIN besides the fact that Trent Reznor seems like a pretty sweet dude after watching him on Digg Dialogg. I downloaded The Slip from their website. Bad choice?
Not really, I mean its far from their best, but it's still a great listen.
I d/l the Slip when it came out, but honestly, I really dont like it. But I always hear about how great NIN is on this board, so I was curious: Should I "reboot" my exploration of them? Where should I start?
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Superbump:
I know nothing about NIN besides the fact that Trent Reznor seems like a pretty sweet dude after watching him on Digg Dialogg. I downloaded The Slip from their website. Bad choice?
Not really, I mean its far from their best, but it's still a great listen.
I d/l the Slip when it came out, but honestly, I really dont like it. But I always hear about how great NIN is on this board, so I was curious: Should I "reboot" my exploration of them? Where should I start?
Yes, get the Downward Spiral immediately.
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Superbump:
I know nothing about NIN besides the fact that Trent Reznor seems like a pretty sweet dude after watching him on Digg Dialogg. I downloaded The Slip from their website. Bad choice?
Not really, I mean its far from their best, but it's still a great listen.
I d/l the Slip when it came out, but honestly, I really dont like it. But I always hear about how great NIN is on this board, so I was curious: Should I "reboot" my exploration of them? Where should I start?
Yes, get the Downward Spiral immediately.
Then follow up with The Fragile and give yourself 2 hours alone with it. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
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download spiral is fantastic. I just listened to it at work today
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Hey all. New to the forum...post-wise. I've been lurking for a little while now.
Figured this would be just as good a topic as any to jump into...I am a Nails fan and have been for many years...through all the eras of the band. Actually just saw them 2x (on the rail in Chicago and backstage in Indy). Sadly, Trent has said that he is stepping away from touring after this current tour (with Jane's Addiction and Tom Morello/Boots Riley's new band - Street Sweeper Social Club) is over.
Anyway - as for the OP: The thing with NIN is that TR was able to reinvent his sound several times over the years, and change with time. Yes, The Downward Spiral is just a really good starting point CD for the catalog. That's been established, and I agree.
The Fragile is just...an amazing collective album. Definitely takes a couple listens to digest it. I went to a Meet & Greet with the band in Indy and had my copy of TF signed by the band.
Pretty Hate Machine had its place, but as was mentioned in the thread already, songs like "Terrible Lie" and of course "Head Like A Hole" are so much better live and in current form, as opposed to when PHM was released 20 years ago.
Broken is the best EP album I've seen. Just so many GOOD and HARD songs with very little filler at all on the record ("Help Me I Am In Hell" being the only example.)
With Teeth came after TR had gone sober, and it shows. It's a definite departure from TDS or TF. It's a very guitar-led album. No wonder it was their highest-selling album.
Year Zero and the Alternate Reality Game surrounding it was more than just a CD launch. It really made the listeners feel as if they were immersed in a dysfunctional utopian society. I'm eager to see if any other bands will have anything similar with future releases. VERY tech sounding.
And The Slip...well, The Slip was recorded while the band was currently on tour and I believe, comes full circle. Of course, you have the synthy tracks on there, the quiet tracks, and the straight ahead rock tracks.
Hopefully this works for you...and hopefully I didn't confuse you even more...lol.
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TEH EPIC BUMP.
I used to be a huge NIN junkie. Trent was one of my very first obsessions. I'd listen to them all day long. TDS was about all I listened to for about 6 months when I first got it. I have all their studio albums, live material, and a few of the remixes.
I've only recently gotten back into them, and it' awesome. Oh, the memories.
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Best Song = Something I Can Never Have. Love the brooding element to it, fits the lyrical modd perfectly.
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Best Song = Something I Can Never Have. We're In This Together
Fix'd for me
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You're both right. Those are two of my favorites.
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I'd say start with The Downward Spiral. That one is really Trent's definitive and most well-known album. The other ones are great as well, but if you can't get into TDS, you might have some trouble with the others. Personally, I really love rocking/catchy vibe of With Teeth and also the 80's sounds on Pretty Hate Machine. The remix of PHM sounds GREAT to me.
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Woops, that initial post was two years ago... haha But yes, NIN is great! I'm really digging "Pretty Hate Machine" right now!
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:rollin Holy shit I miss wrath
Anyways, I'm now a massive fan, so this thread was a success :D
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I watched Beside You In Time again last night for the first time in at least over a year... such a rocking concert :metal
Has anyone watched any of the Closure footage? I own a copy of the VHS tapes :heart but it's all over youtube, too. Trent had such a crazy image back then--dark, dim lighting, fishnets, eyeliner, gloves, leather, cornstarch, gritty curtains, and tons of on-stage violence and destruction of instruments. Total apeshit.
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I'm just properly discovering NIN, starting with The Fragile, after digging Year Zero for a while. I've been listening to it for months, but I'm so hooked on it, I don't have any curiosity for further NIN. That'll come when the awesomeness of The Fragile starts to wear off for me.
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I'm just properly discovering NIN, starting with The Fragile, after digging Year Zero for a while. I've been listening to it for months, but I'm so hooked on it, I don't have any curiosity for further NIN. That'll come when the awesomeness of The Fragile starts to wear off for me.
Check out the The Downward Spiral when you decide to delve further.
I still remember my first listen of that album when I was 13. It changed my life and was unlike anything I had ever heard before. It opened up a whole new world to me /fanboi
That's pretty much when my obsession started. Then I went a long time without listening to NIN, and now I'm falling in love all over again :D
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I watched Beside You In Time again last night for the first time in at least over a year... such a rocking concert :metal
BYIT is alright, but definitely a rushed product compared to And All That Could Have Been, probably my favourite live album/DVD ever (but one that was very obviously overdubbed to hell). i find BYIT lacks a lot in comparison.
Has anyone watched any of the Closure footage? I own a copy of the VHS tapes :heart but it's all over youtube, too.
also just want to mention that the band released a DVD update of Closure with extra bonus footage to The Pirate Bay years ago, when red tape with Interscope prevented the physical release. it's excellent, especially the second disc with all the music videos. "Eraser" -> "Hurt" ftw!
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I watched Beside You In Time again last night for the first time in at least over a year... such a rocking concert :metal
BYIT is alright, but definitely a rushed product compared to And All That Could Have Been, probably my favourite live album/DVD ever (but one that was very obviously overdubbed to hell). i find BYIT lacks a lot in comparison.
The only real complaint I have about BYIT is that some of the instruments sound hushed, especially Alessandro's keyboards. AATCHB was one of the very first live DVDs I ever watched, and it still holds a special place in my heart.
Has anyone watched any of the Closure footage? I own a copy of the VHS tapes :heart but it's all over youtube, too.
also just want to mention that the band released a DVD update of Closure with extra bonus footage to The Pirate Bay years ago, when red tape with Interscope prevented the physical release. it's excellent, especially the second disc with all the music videos. "Eraser" -> "Hurt" ftw!
Yup. Interscope refused to release it, for whatever reason. So Reznor trolled them all and leaked it online :biggrin: That was the precursor to him giving labels the middle finger and going independent. Still would have been awesome to have a physical copy of the DVD, though. Whenever I need a Closure fix, I just watch them on my computer, since it's too much of a hassle to pop in VHS anymore :P But I still love having it for sentimental and collection reasons.
Also, I just finished listening to all of Ghosts! Some gorgeous, atmospheric stuff there. It's a testament to Trent's bravery and willingness to think outside the box.
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Just got this in the mail! So glad to have a DVD of it after having it on VHS for years. God bless the devoted bastards who made the torrent into DVDs all across the world.
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Just got this in the mail! So glad to have a DVD of it after having it on VHS for years. God bless the devoted bastards who made the torrent into DVDs all across the world.
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Wow that's awesome. I have the Dvd's but just burned copies. The artwork is very nice.
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:rollin Holy shit I miss wrath
Anyways, I'm now a massive fan, so this thread was a success :D
So after all this time what do you think now and what are you favorite albums/songs? I'm a big fan of his first few albums. Lately it's hit or miss but i did love the Social Network score he did.
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Maybe i'm all mess up! Maybe i'm all messed up in you!!!
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they have one good song
Don't ever talk to me. NIN is a great band.
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Dude, that post is two years old, wrath got banned ages ago :lol
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duVvWfgxc6Y :metal
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Wow that's awesome. I have the Dvd's but just burned copies. The artwork is very nice.
Yeah, I bought it from a guy off of ioffer. He lives in Romania of all places :lol But his approval rating was 99%, so I figured I was good. It's perfect. It even has a cool standard DVD menu.
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Why don't more people on DTF like NIN, they are so amazing. Not a single weak album, and Reznor is the coolest guy in the music industry.
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It's because they're all communists.
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I will check them out, i promise. Any recommendations?
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I will check them out, i promise. Any recommendations?
The Downward Spiral and/or The Fragile are the places to start.
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Thanks, will start with The Downward Sprial since i got a "thing" against double-albums.
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But
But
The Fragile is SO GOOD.
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Nah, TDS is probably the better starting point. (he said while listening to The Fragile)
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It is, but he should give The Fragile a shot, too.
I do prefer TDS, though.
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Don't worry Ravenheart, if i like TDS, i will check out The Fragile
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Group hug?
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Group hug?
Group hug.
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*takes off pants*
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This is relevant to my interests.
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fragile left > with teeth> tds > the slip > year zero > pretty hate machine > fragile right
Haven't really listened to Ghosts properly.
So what's the deal with people who say their later work is worse? NIN's album feel incredibly consistent to me, with only fragile right suffering from doubledisc-itis, though still mostly awesome.
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You put With Teeth before TDS, Year Zero, Pretty Hate Machine, and half of The Fragile? Jesus Christ.
The only problem I have With Teeth is that sometimes it feels like Trent is drawing from a source of anger that just disappeared with him conquering his drug and alcohol problems and getting his emotional disorders in check. It's a decent album, though. Year Zero was a great rebound and my 3rd favorite after TDS and The Fragile.
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With Teeth sounds like a death rattle for the old NIN. Some of it is great, but it also boasts some of my least favorite NIN tracks ever (The Collector, With Teeth, the studio version of Only). It's too bad, because it's got a lot to like about it, too.
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I love With Teeth.
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I love it, too, but it's not really one of my favorites by them.
But it's NIN, and NIN is love, and it is a good album as a whole.
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I was bored so decided to check out some NIN tour footage on their youtube account. My biggest regret band-wise is to not get into these guys even a year earlier so I could see them live :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SaFRqFnRQQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SToOccPytl8
my fav:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k3TYNXwzHQ
edit: also, do any of you guys have the This One is On Us fan bluray/dvd?
edit oh god the great destroyer live O_O
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06hCku23WiE
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My mother always forbade me from seeing them live because she hated them :P Even though she had never listened to any of his music and just had an image of him made up in her mind.
It sucks because I had so many opportunities, too. I've been a fan since 2005.
I don't have that DVD, but I want it. Very much.
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The guy is reopening orders for the dvd/blurays in August, so pick both up then!
I'm watching it now, the energy is incredible, that final tour looks so spectacular. I do wonder how it compares to their other live shows in terms of spectacle...
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Seriously? Oh lawd, it's rainin' men. I'll get one for sure.
I have all of their other live DVDs and the Closure VHS set. And I got a DVD of Closure just yesterday, which I posted pictures of on the previous page. Have you seen their other DVDs?
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Nope, I want to get hold of them though!
I saw the closure dvd, very nice, I will have to make sure I get that too.
Are you going to say your album rankings then?
edit: with teeth and tds bounce positions all the time, depending on my mood. With teeth has higher highs, but lower lows.
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Definitely do. And All That Could Have Been, Beside You in Time, and Closure are all excellent.
Closure was never officially released as a DVD, but a lot of people were kind enough to make the torrent that Trent leaked into full-function DVDs. Got mine from ioffer. The VHS set is great for collecting purposes.
This is my ranking:
The Downward Spiral
The Fragile
Year Zero
Pretty Hate Machine
With Teeth
The Slip
Not sure where I'd rank Ghosts. It's an entirely different entity than their other albums, but it's really great to zone out or do homework to it.
I love them all, though. Trent Reznor was my introduction to music, so there's a lot of sentimental value in his music for me.
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Why The Slip so low? I take it you prefer left to right of the fragile.
Also, I still haven't heard Broken.
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Why The Slip so low? I take it you prefer left to right of the fragile.
Also, I still haven't heard Broken.
For me, The Slip has always just sorta been.... there. Nothing more. It has some good songs on it, but I rarely have the urge to listen to it when I want my (daily) NIN fix.
Broken is a great EP. I highly recommend it.
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The main problem with The Slip is that when it's good, it's good 90's NIN, and when it's bad, it's... Well, bad.
The way I look at it is, there's been a clear progression with NIN since TDS. The metal nihilism of TDS gave way to the haunting instruments and orchestration of The Fragile. This led to a more alt-rock, whole band NIN in With Teeth, seeming to clear Trent's head for the computerized, electronic Year Zero. After that came the totally instrumental Ghosts, which led to... The same kind of songs Trent has been singing all along. 1,000,000 would fit nicely on TDS. Letting You could slide in nicely after Survivalism on YZ, Head Down and Echoplex feel like WT tracks, it's nothing new. It's like a career retrospective told through B-sides.
Or maybe I'm talking nonsense again.
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It's fairly accurate nonsense, though.
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The main problem with The Slip is that when it's good, it's good 90's NIN, and when it's bad, it's... Well, bad.
The way I look at it is, there's been a clear progression with NIN since TDS. The metal nihilism of TDS gave way to the haunting instruments and orchestration of The Fragile. This led to a more alt-rock, whole band NIN in With Teeth, seeming to clear Trent's head for the computerized, electronic Year Zero. After that came the totally instrumental Ghosts, which led to... The same kind of songs Trent has been singing all along. 1,000,000 would fit nicely on TDS. Letting You could slide in nicely after Survivalism on YZ, Head Down and Echoplex feel like WT tracks, it's nothing new. It's like a career retrospective told through B-sides.
Or maybe I'm talking nonsense again.
the slip is good, but it suffers because its a short album and the longest song is a boring instrumental (Corona Radiata)
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Corona Radiata is great :|
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So i checked out The Downward Spiral, and i quite enjoyed it. It was quite angry and heavy, at times beautiful. The lyrics were a bit f****d up, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I will listen to it again today, and then maybe listen to The Fragile.
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Corona Radiata is great :|
It's great in the sense that watching paint dry is exciting, golf is a sport, and stubbing your toe is sexy.
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Not a fan of Ghosts either then?
Also, I listened to Broken. I really didn't like the production, I'll stick to the live versions of the songs.
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Huh? Oh, Ghosts. Yeah, that exists.
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Not a fan of Ghosts either then?
I love ghosts, but it just seems like Corona Radiata doesnt "fit" on The Slip. And two instrumentals in a row is also kind of weird.
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I think it works great, and Demon Seed is such a great finisher.
Huh? Oh, Ghosts. Yeah, that exists.
Stop with the shitty attitude already.
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Stop with the shitty attitude already.
Bad day?
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Not at all - all he is doing in this thread is being snobbish and dropping pathetic remarks that don't add to the discussion at all.
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The only snobbish remark in this thread that I see is "Stop with the shitty attitude already," which just stemmed from someone who was upset that he didn't share a similar opinion. The only shitty attitude I see in this thread is radiating from the same person who voiced the remark.
Maybe we should all just circle-jerk to everything Trent has ever done, said, touched, eaten, drank, and crapped, and keep any discussion or differing opinions exempt from this thread.
Yeah, what a wonderful bunch of robots we would be.
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Dude, that post is two years old, wrath got banned ages ago :lol
Haha... lol, that's what I get for lurking around the forums blindly all of the time :biggrin:
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Huh? Oh, Ghosts. Yeah, that exists.
if you don't think that that's a shitty way to go about discussing things, then I don't know what to say.
It's great in the sense that watching paint dry is exciting, golf is a sport, and stubbing your toe is sexy.
OOOOH! Sarcasm! Edgey statement about golf!
And no, I don't think everything Reznor has done is great. By any stretch. But it helps to actually quantify statements instead of trying to be witty and clever, whilst actually coming off as nothing but an idiot. Forums are for discussion and debate, not crap like this.
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The only snobbish remark in this thread that I see is "Stop with the shitty attitude already," which just stemmed from someone who was upset that he didn't share a similar opinion. The only shitty attitude I see in this thread is radiating from the same person who voiced the remark.
Maybe we should all just circle-jerk to everything Trent has ever done, said, touched, eaten, drank, and crapped, and keep any discussion or differing opinions exempt from this thread.
Yeah, what a wonderful bunch of robots we would be.
Nah, he's right. I was at work and didn't have a tremendous amount of time in between calls, so brevity usually trumps introspection. Plus, talking to people invariably pisses me off. I was kind of a dickbag.
Anyway, Corona Radiata (Which I'm listening to as I type this) still bores the piss out of me. It's 7 1/2 minutes of droning noise that leads nowhere. I'm a fan of industrial music, so I certainly don't mind random noise on tracks, but I do expect it to lead somewhere. Right now, it's simply some garbled crackling with that aforementioned drone in the background, has been for three minutes, and will be for another four (Never mind, nearly five minutes in and I get some beats). While I'm a fan of Trent's, his instrumentals have been taking a turn for the boring lately. A Warm Place fit right in with TDS and The Fragile was an amazing album, my favorite musically for NIN, but after that? YZ has the skippable Another Version of the Truth, and The Slip has the yawn-inducing 999,999 as an intro for 1,000,000, and I'm sure you all have a pretty good idea of my thoughts on CR (Although it does start to pick up a bit at the end, I'd forgotten) and as for Ghosts... Well, I legitimately forget that even exists, I so rarely put it on. I like it, but when there's so much else on my iPod, I never find myself reaching for that.
The Four of Us Are Dying, however, is a pretty badass track, but in going back to my previous point about The Slip, can't you see it fitting in nicely behind Pilgrimage or Just Like You Imagined (Superior tracks in my opinion, by the way) on The Fragile Left rather than blazing any new trails for NIN? It feels like a look back on a time that was already pretty decent in my eyes, and thus sort of unnecessary. On the plus side, Demon Seed totally surprised me then, and even now sounds like the immediate precursor for How To Destroy Angels
Speaking of, anyone else excited to see what comes of that? I wasn't overly blown away by their debut, but I think once they get comfortable with their sound, they could really knock it out of the park.
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I guess I appreciate the long quiet songs after quite a few hard-hitting songs - hell Letting You is one of Trent's most aggressive songs since TDS. I'd say Corona Radiata is the weakest of the three atmospheric tracks, and definitely would not listen to it on it's own, but as part of the album it flows fine (much like glass arm shattering on Deadwing). The quiet section of the album feels like the proper integration of Ghosts into NIN's normal sound, which I really like the combination of. I still find the quiet three songs better than about half of Fragile: right too. Then Demon Seed kicks in with just about NIN's all-time best drumming, and ends the album with a bam, unlike past albums which ended with the quiet song.
As for HTDA, I loved a couple of the songs, the others were pretty okay. I like her voice, but it seems like she has more range than is let on by the songs written so far. A Drowning is particularly great though.
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I find Ghosts really good to listen to when doing homework or some other menial task. It's not the kind of music to sit down and listen to intently as I've found. I dunno.
I thought the How To Destroy Angels EP was pretty cool, but I though more could have been done with it. I wanna see what Trent plans on doing after the The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo OST. I know there's talk of a Year Zero TV show, and there was also a rumor of a sequel to Year Zero, though I don't really see that happening.
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Which sucks, because YZ is my favorite NIN album, and I was looking forward to that stuff. Ah well, wanting is better than having, as they say.
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A YZ 2.0 could be great, but as you mentioned, Trent could pull a Queensryche with it.
I'd like to see him continue with conceptual albums. The Downward Spiral, The Fragile, and Year Zero all worked beautifully as albums with a story flowing through them. He really has a niche for it, while many artists lack it.
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And the more I think about it, where would a potential sequel go? The world was destroyed. Would YZ2.0 find us 3,000 years in the future on a planet of Portuguese colonists. I guess I'm fine where we ended off.
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It could be told from the aliens' point of view.
"Dear diary, a funny thing happened today when I put my hand down on Earth..." And so on.
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Been watching and listening to a lot of NIN live stuff, I honestly think that he does a better job now (or rather in recent years) compared to his TDS/Fragile years.
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He was awesome in the TDS days--a total madman on stage. The Closure footage does a pretty good job of depicting that.
He sort of mellowed beginning in The Fragile days, and more so in the With Teeth years and onward. But that's to be expected with age and longevity. A grown man can only wear gloves, eyeliner, and fishnets for so long before it looks like he's just trying to relive his youth. He still puts on a great show, though.
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Let's have some appreciation for Robin Finck up in this bitch. He's one of my favorite guitarists, not just for NIN but in general, and his onstage persona makes him even more awesome.
I loved his look in the Self-Destruct tour days. It's probably my favorite look of his:
(https://i.imgur.com/3LCXc.jpg)
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Moar Robin:
(https://i.imgur.com/KZPJ7.jpg)
Also, I gave The Slip another listen yesterday. It really just does nothing at all for me, I'm sad to say.
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That's odd. I listened to The Fragile the other day and loved it.
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That's because The Fragile is a classic.
But yeah, how's about that Robin Finck?
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But yeah, how's about that Robin Finck?
Sure is a manly looking lady. :neverusethis:
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I think he looks really cool.
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Still lovin' The Slip :D
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Still feelin' numb to The Slip.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SToOccPytl8
You can't be numb to that.
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I'm so glad this thread popped up.
I was just listening to Pretty Hate Machine and The Fragile over past couple of days. Man, I love those albums. :hefdaddy
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I can't wait for the Fragile remaster, TDS sounds so much better for it.
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Just heard Burn for the first time... wow!
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I can't wait for the Fragile remaster, TDS sounds so much better for it.
I was waiting for that to come out... last Christmas. :lol
I hope he gets it done soon, I've been holding off on getting The Fragile because of it's supposedly imminent release.
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Just heard Burn for the first time... wow!
You heard it just today?
JUST TODAY?!
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"1 Ghosts I" would make great music for a villain's sad, whimpering death...
If I ever get my story turned into an animated series, I will personally ask Reznor if I can use that track. XD
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I can't wait for the Fragile remaster, TDS sounds so much better for it.
I was waiting for that to come out... last Christmas. :lol
I hope he gets it done soon, I've been holding off on getting The Fragile because of it's supposedly imminent release.
Me too! I'm really curious to what the cover art should have been (I know it's a waterfall and a shell, but still)
Just heard Burn for the first time... wow!
You heard it just today?
JUST TODAY?!
I bought the DVD-A version of TDS, not the SACD one (I can rip DVD-A 2.0/5.1, but not SACDs) and it doesn't have the second disc. Nor do I have the soundtrack from NBK.
The live version sounded even better too :(
WHY COULDNT I SEE THEM LIVE
"1 Ghosts I" would make great music for a villain's sad, whimpering death...
If I ever get my story turned into an animated series, I will personally ask Reznor if I can use that track. XD
Well the track is creative commons non-commercial sharealike.
"in effect allowing anyone to use or rework the material for any non-profit purpose, as long as credit is provided and the resulting work is released under a similar license."
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Hi!
I got into NIN about three months ago. My bandwagon news has been off since high school, but thank god I got on this one.
My old roommate in college told me that if I ever find The Fragile for less than $20, I should grab it. Well, I got it for $14.
Best goddamn money I ever spent on a whim. There is nothing better than realizing a man's grasp on his depression and drug abuse could sound so beautiful. The concept itself is breathtaking and worth the journey.
Then I stole my brother's With Teeth...well, not actually steal per say but more like exchange-ownership-to-someone-who-actually-appreciates-music-and-not-some-ill-conceived-notion-that-Trent-Reznor-is-some-depressed-addict-to-admire-and-put-on-a-pedestal-simply-cause-he-does-drugs. It was different, but still fantastic.
And then there was Pretty Hate Machine... :metal
I have yet to get these:
Broken
The Downward Spiral
Year Zero
Ghosts (I-IV)
The Slip
Sugestions?
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probably try YZ next, as WT and PHM have prepared you fairly well for it.
maybe then use The Slip as a transition into the more br00tal Broken/TDS combo.
i'd say save Ghosts for last, but i think that's my personal bias — i only really like Ghosts IV, and can leave the rest. (it's also the most Fragiley part of the two-disc affair, though much of the album smacks of TF.)
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Get The Downward Spiral!!
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I love The Fragile. :tup
My brother warned me NEVER to watch the video for Happiness In Slavery. It sounds horrible. :\
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Downward Spiral or Year Zero.
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Definitely The Downward Spiral.
My brother warned me NEVER to watch the video for Happiness In Slavery. It sounds horrible. :\
NO. You must watch it. All of it. And plus the rest of the Broken movie.
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No thanks. I'm not into torture porn thanks.
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I would recommend Broken and Downward Spiral.
Also make sure to get Dead Souls off of the Crow Soundtrack. I love that song and its what got me into NIN in the first place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWs8kdGUgDg
And on a side note The Fragile is my favorite :heart
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No thanks. I'm not into torture porn thanks.
it isn't torture porn, though! it's not even pornographic except for that one bit...
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No thanks. I'm not into torture porn thanks.
Dude, torture porn is the purest form of human expression.
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As I sit here and listen to March of the Pigs, it reminds me of the first time I saw the video.
Back in the day, my young mind was blown, especially when it gets to the "doesn't it make you feel better" part and the microphone just drops. Absolutely brilliant video.
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probably try YZ next, as WT and PHM have prepared you fairly well for it.
maybe then use The Slip as a transition into the more br00tal Broken/TDS combo.
i'd say save Ghosts for last, but i think that's my personal bias — i only really like Ghosts IV, and can leave the rest. (it's also the most Fragiley part of the two-disc affair, though much of the album smacks of TF.)
I think i'll take this route. This one friend from high school told me all about Ghosts and he sold it as a possible soundtrack score. I think just to be difficult I will leave The Downward Spiral for last. :coolio
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A little bit of news I saw.
https://www.nme.com/news/nine-inch-nails/60900
I would be very happy if this was true.
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Yeah, I read that a few days ago. My anus is already prepared.
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YES
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Cool interview. (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/girl-dragon-tattoo-trent-reznor-david-fincher-273062) Mainly focuses on his soundtrack career, though it also delves into his background a bit.
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If anyone is really bored and has nothing better to do, feel free to read my review for The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo OST: https://coma-online.com/?p=9650
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Just got the Social Network OST. Nice stuff!! :tup
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If anyone is really bored and has nothing better to do, feel free to read my review for The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo OST: https://coma-online.com/?p=9650
Well written stuff :tup
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It depends on what albums you like the most. Pretty Hate Machine in my mind is a rare breed, in that its sound is really more beat driven than the other albums. Broken and The Downward Spiral are very heavy albums, heavier than The Fragile. I thought With Teeth was pretty good but most of the remixes of the songs are better than the original. Year Zero is pretty good too and The Slip is okay. For me, The Fragile his is best album.
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Also make sure to get Dead Souls off of the Crow Soundtrack. I love that song and its what got me into NIN in the first place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWs8kdGUgDg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWs8kdGUgDg)
Great song. Probably worth noting that it's a cover, though.
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I got interested in industrial music so I was advised to check NIN out as the acclaimed kings of the genre. I gotta say the stuff I found upon my youtube search bored the living fuck out of me. I'm getting to realize there's quite a difference between industrial music and heavy industrial music. NIN set a mood but get no where with it. They left the same impression on my as Tool, different as they are.
Anyone have any NIN recommendations that doesn't sound like the background music in a SAW movie?
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You sound a little too pre-opinionated but I'll bite. A few choice cuts:
"Reptile" (The Downward Spiral)
https://grooveshark.com/s/Reptile/yv8fs?src=5
"Slipping Away" (Things Falling Apart)
https://grooveshark.com/s/Slipping+Away/2zsOUV?src=5
"Last" (Broken)
https://grooveshark.com/s/Last/Awvts?src=5
"The Great Destroyer" (Year Zero)
https://grooveshark.com/s/The+Great+Destroyer/vUq4F?src=5
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What songs did you listen to that sounded like background music :huh:
Anyways, songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yae8V6QODg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M0oXxgUPWc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpYhfpQDVLE
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If any industrial outside of industrial metal bores you, you probably won't like NIN, even though I don't think it should matter how industrial a band is.
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I got interested in industrial music so I was advised to check NIN out as the acclaimed kings of the genre. I gotta say the stuff I found upon my youtube search bored the living fuck out of me. I'm getting to realize there's quite a difference between industrial music and heavy industrial music. NIN set a mood but get no where with it. They left the same impression on my as Tool, different as they are.
Anyone have any NIN recommendations that doesn't sound like the background music in a SAW movie?
Here's 3 of my favorite NIN songs: Wish, Last and Just like you imagined
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Thanks a lot for the links guys, I'm giving them all a few listens.
If any industrial outside of industrial metal bores you, you probably won't like NIN, even though I don't think it should matter how industrial a band is.
Looks that way to me now. I mistakenly thought all industrial music is techno with heavy distorted guitars riffs and generally head banging energy.
What songs did you listen to that sounded like background music :huh:
I don't remember the titles but it mostly reminded me of really good musical scores from Silent Hill (like this https://youtu.be/80a-DF6o46o) which is great yet can't keep my attention to it as primary subject.
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If any industrial outside of industrial metal bores you, you probably won't like NIN, even though I don't think it should matter how industrial a band is.
Looks that way to me now. I mistakenly thought all industrial music is techno with heavy distorted guitars riffs and generally head banging energy.
It's a common misconception. The bands that started industrial back in the 80s didn't incorporate guitars whatsoever, or if they did, it was very sparingly. My favorite sub-genre of industrial music relies on synthesizers, not guitars.
techno
(https://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lymq6cf5Uc1qlmf09.gif)
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Not the dancey techno, I meant KMFDM type of thing.
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I got interested in industrial music so I was advised to check NIN out as the acclaimed kings of the genre. I gotta say the stuff I found upon my youtube search bored the living fuck out of me. I'm getting to realize there's quite a difference between industrial music and heavy industrial music. NIN set a mood but get no where with it. They left the same impression on my as Tool, different as they are.
Anyone have any NIN recommendations that doesn't sound like the background music in a SAW movie?
Here's 3 of my favorite NIN songs: Wish, Last and Just like you imagined
Please do not post song links from illegitimate sources.
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Listening to With Teeth right now. This was such a good comeback album for him.
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With Teeth isn't my favorite, but it's still very solid in its own right.
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Me either, but it had been a while since I spun it. The Fragile is probably my favorite of his work.
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With Teeth isn't my favorite, but it's still very solid in its own right.
same here. I do really like With Teeth a lot though and it always puts me in a good mood.
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With Teeth isn't my favorite, but it's still very solid in its own right.
same here. I do really like With Teeth a lot though and it always puts me in a good mood.
SHIT! SHIT! SHIIIIIIIIT!
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I love the last song "Right Where It Belongs". It's so haunting to me.
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I love the last song "Right Where It Belongs". It's so haunting to me.
The crowd noise gave me chills the first couple times I heard it.
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Listening to NiN for the first time ever. The Fragile has been so good so far. I could honestly see it becoming one of my favorite albums, just from this first impression.
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Dude you need to check out The Downward Spiral!!
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Listening to NiN for the first time ever. The Fragile has been so good so far. I could honestly see it becoming one of my favorite albums, just from this first impression.
The Fragile is so good! Lots of quality material throughout the NIN catalog so dig right in if you feel the urge.
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Listening to NiN for the first time ever. The Fragile has been so good so far. I could honestly see it becoming one of my favorite albums, just from this first impression.
The Fragile is the album that finally got me into Nine Inch Nails. Its definitely one of my top 10 favorite albums.
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TDN is better, even though The Fragile is awesome.
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TheFragile is an amazing album. Every time I hear it I get into a trance.
I just picked up Ghosts I-IV and The Slip recently. Ghosts is great. Slip is alright. Ghosts reminds me of The Social Network soundtrack, but that's the point. It was made by Trent and Atticus.
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Part of 14 Ghosts II is on The Social Network OST as Magnetic.
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and "A Familiar Taste" is a reworking of 35 Ghosts IV.
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Wow, I didn't know that. I need to listen to TSN soundtrack again.
Do you know if they reworked anything for TGWTDT soundtrack?
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nah, TGWTDT was all original (somehow!). nothing sounded familiar, that's for sure.
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just listened to The Downward Spiral for the first time.
holy shit, thats one hell of a badass album
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I wanna fuck you like an animal!
I wanna feel you from the inside.
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A warm place :heart
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I wanna fuck you like an animal!
I wanna feel you from the inside.
ok :3
DO ME
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I'll fox you like an animal.
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just listened to The Downward Spiral for the first time.
holy shit, thats one hell of a badass album
:metal
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just listened to The Downward Spiral for the first time.
holy shit, thats one hell of a badass album
Indeed. :metal
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Bump because I've really been getting into this band over the last weeks (months probably).
So far I only know The Fragile, The Downward Spiral and With Teeth, but I love them all, and I am planning on checking the rest out, I just love taking it slowly so that I can appreciate everything.
I would probably rank the albums in the order I mentioned them, The Fragile is my favorite and it's hard for me to pick a favorite disc on it since both are so good. I don't get the hate for Disc 2 at all, it has "Into the Void", "Where is Everybody?" and "Please" (one of my favorites) just to name three really good songs, and I think the rest is fantastic as well. The Downward Spiral and With Teeth are pretty close right now. The first is such a journey and I love it, the latter is more of a "catchy, more straightforward songs" which is fine as well. "The Hand That Feeds" and "Every Day is Exactly the Same" are two of my favorite NiN songs so far.
So to keep it short: awesome band. :metal
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Fraggle Rock instantly became my favourite from the start. i got into them through "Hurt" and "We're in This Together" music videos, and right from the start of "Somewhat Damaged" it was obvious i had gotten onto something untouchable.
hoping the big, lovely boxset reissue of it comes out soon.
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Fraggle Rock instantly became my favourite from the start. i got into them through "Hurt" and "We're in This Together" music videos, and right from the start of "Somewhat Damaged" it was obvious i had gotten onto something untouchable.
hoping the big, lovely boxset reissue of it comes out soon.
I could die happy when the Fraggle reissue comes out. :caffeine:
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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/trent-reznor-nine-inch-nails-working-on-new-music-possible-tour-20121107
New music would be cool, but what I really want is a tour.
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Agreed - I didn't get to see any of the NIN/JA shows or any of the last shows because I found out about the tours too late. :'(
Saw NIN twice during the [With_Teeth] tour though, but that was 2005/2006...
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The Fragile really needs it's reissue already, it's been fracking ages.
I would kill to see them live too.
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I need The Fragile on vinyl.
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The Fragile really needs it's reissue already, it's been fracking ages.
Absolutely.
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Check it: https://pitchfork.com/advance/33-welcome-oblivion/
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Really good record. Mariqueen's vocals fit perfectly, and Trent hasn't lost his touch either vocally or musically.
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Anyone see the video for the single? Pretty damn creepy and the music was good too.
I'm tentatively looking forward to this.
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https://pitchfork.com/news/49681-trent-reznor-announces-the-return-of-nine-inch-nails-extensive-touring-for-2013-and-2014/
:biggrin:
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If they come here I will be so happy.
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Fuck yes.
And Adrian Belew touring too! Hell yeah.
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I can't believe that the last time I saw NIN on tour was in 2008. That was some of the most amazing stage production I've ever seen for a concert. I wouldn't mind having another go at the band, especially now that Belew is in the touring lineup.
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Hey! Anyone interested (aside Deb) in NIN survivor?
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I would be up for it. :tup
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Hey! Anyone interested (aside Deb) in NIN survivor?
Grrrr. :angry:
D'ohhhh.... I can't hate on ya. :heart
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Sorry, I meant to say that you are already interested :blush. My English fails me sometimes.
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It's okay, really - I was giving you shit. :laugh:
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Yeah sure.
NIN is the tits up until around the Slip and the Ghost stuff, that I 'm not familiar with as much.
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Ghosts is great for background music. Five years on and I still never got into The Slip, though.
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OK, I think I'll make a survivor. It just goes to the end of the queue, so it might take some time to get it started.
A few questions though:
-Should I make a miscellanious round?
-Should Physical and Suck be included in Broken, or the possible miscellanious round?
-The Fragile: two discs separately or all songs at once?
-Should Ghosts I-IV be included?
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NIN fans! I have Ghosts, The Slip, and a couple songs off The Downward Spiral and With Teeth each. Between With Teeth and Year Zero, which is a better starting place for beginners?
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The Fragile.
In it's entirety.
In one evening.
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NIN fans! I have Ghosts, The Slip, and a couple songs off The Downward Spiral and With Teeth each. Between With Teeth and Year Zero, which is a better starting place for beginners?
If it had to be between those 2, I would go with With Teeth, because I don't really like Year Zero.
But neither of those two albums are going to give you the most accurate taste of NIN. For that I would recommend Broken, Downward Spiral and The Fragile. Then go check out Pretty Hate machine. Those are my favorites.
I would save Year Zero, Ghosts and The slip for last honestly.
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NIN fans! I have Ghosts, The Slip, and a couple songs off The Downward Spiral and With Teeth each. Between With Teeth and Year Zero, which is a better starting place for beginners?
If it had to be between those 2, I would go with With Teeth, because I don't really like Year Zero.
But neither of those two albums are going to give you the most accurate taste of NIN. For that I would recommend Broken, Downward Spiral and The Fragile. Then go check out Pretty Hate machine. Those are my favorites.
I would save Year Zero, Ghosts and The slip for last honestly.
Listen to this man. He is right about everything.
In addition to The Slip, Year Zero is the other album that just never gelled with me, unfortunately. :(
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My first album was Ghosts actually, followed by The Slip. I liked the first half of both albums.
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The Downward Spiral is amazing. With Teeth and Pretty Hate Machine are very good, but I'm not much into Broken. Pinion, Wish and Happiness in Slavery are all great songs, but the three other regular tracks doesn't really work for me. The covers are alright.
I will listen to The Fragile as soon as I have some time for it.
Oh, and I checked their show from Woodstock '94 and it was amazing! Especially Terrible Lie, The Only Time and Help Me I Am In Hell/Happiness in Slavery were awesome! But does anyone know, why they played only three songs from The Downward Spiral?
And I haven't got any response for these. Do I make a survivor of not? Will there be enough participants?
-Should I make a miscellanious round?
-Should Physical and Suck be included in Broken, or the possible miscellanious round?
-The Fragile: two discs separately or all songs at once?
-Should Ghosts I-IV be included?
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Apparently the Broken movie is now available. I'm not going to watch it though, even reading the plot was disgusting. However, I've seen videos for Pinion and Wish.
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Apparently the Broken movie is now available. I'm not going to watch it though, even reading the plot was disgusting. However, I've seen videos for Pinion and Wish.
it's been officially unofficially torrented since 2004 as a proper, restored DVD with all footage. same with Closure (which has extra footage). it was banned from Vimeo within hours, so i'm assuming that'll be the only place to get it from now on!
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https://www.facebook.com/ninofficial?hc_location=stream
So glad that Finck is back. That's really the one piece of the puzzle I felt was missing.
I can't wait for this tour. :metal
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I saw that too - looking forward to possibly seeing NIN again. Saw them on the [With_Teeth] tour and MAN... I was so sweaty when I walked out of the show! :coolio
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Good, Robin is awesome.
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:omg: YESSSSSSSS
“I’ve been less than honest about what I’ve really been up to lately. For the last year I’ve been secretly working non-stop with Atticus Ross and Alan Moulder on a new, full-length Nine Inch Nails record, which I am happy to say is finished and frankly fucking great. This is the real impetus and motivation behind the decision to assemble a new band and tour again. My forays into film, HTDA and other projects really stimulated me creatively and I decided to focus that energy on taking Nine Inch Nails to a new place. Here we go!”
https://nineinchnails.tumblr.com/post/51585462200/ive-been-less-than-honest-about-what-ive-really (https://nineinchnails.tumblr.com/post/51585462200/ive-been-less-than-honest-about-what-ive-really)
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Didn't really enjoy The Slip, but I'm always up for more NIN. :laugh:
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:omg: YESSSSSSSS
“I’ve been less than honest about what I’ve really been up to lately. For the last year I’ve been secretly working non-stop with Atticus Ross and Alan Moulder on a new, full-length Nine Inch Nails record, which I am happy to say is finished and frankly fucking great. This is the real impetus and motivation behind the decision to assemble a new band and tour again. My forays into film, HTDA and other projects really stimulated me creatively and I decided to focus that energy on taking Nine Inch Nails to a new place. Here we go!”
https://nineinchnails.tumblr.com/post/51585462200/ive-been-less-than-honest-about-what-ive-really (https://nineinchnails.tumblr.com/post/51585462200/ive-been-less-than-honest-about-what-ive-really)
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!! :squee: :woot:
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A new NiN will make me so excited.
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This news is exciting! Although I was not a fan of Ghosts and thought The Slip was okay... any band can be subject to the mediocre releases. Trent has most definitely proven himself long before Ghosts as I have been a fan since Broken. So definitely can't wait to hear what he's come up with. I'm kinda hoping for a little bit of a return to The Downward Spiral sound.
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(https://therockrevival.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/NIN-Live-2.jpg)
:metal
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Totally looking forward to the new record.
I actually like The Slip quite a bit, it has some of my fav NIN songs like Discipline, Echoplex, Lights In the Sky and Corona Radiata. I'd say it's better than Pretty Hate Machine or Year Zero.
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(https://therockrevival.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/NIN-Live-2.jpg)
:metal
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS :metal
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NINE INCH NAILS will release a new single this Thursday (June 6) to radio at 11:30 a.m. PDT.
The new song, titled "Came Back Haunted", "harkens back to early NINE INCH NAILS," says Lisa Worden, Music Director for Los Angeles alternative station KROQ.
"I think it's in line with the first two albums," Worden continues. "It's got a great beat, it's not the experimental material [NINE INCH NAILS mainman] Trent's [Reznor] done in the last five years." Worden indicated the song didn't strike her as angry. Rather the beat is what made an impression. "I wouldn't say that it's dance-y, but it does have a great beat, a groove. Trent really brought it with this song. It's going to sound amazing to new fans and old. It's just cool."
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=190830&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=190830&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
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FUCK YESSS! :metal :metal :metal
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OH SHIIIIII :omg: :omg: :omg:
https://www.antiquiet.com/news/2013/06/listen-nine-inch-nails-came-back-haunted/ (https://www.antiquiet.com/news/2013/06/listen-nine-inch-nails-came-back-haunted/)
Amazing song. So dirty and catchy ;D And Trent still sounds awesome. This album can't come soon enough.
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New album title is "Hesitation Marks" according to Soundcloud where the song is.
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NINE INCH NAILS will release a new single this Thursday (June 6) to radio at 11:30 a.m. PDT.
The new song, titled "Came Back Haunted", "harkens back to early NINE INCH NAILS," says Lisa Worden, Music Director for Los Angeles alternative station KROQ.
"I think it's in line with the first two albums," Worden continues. "It's got a great beat, it's not the experimental material [NINE INCH NAILS mainman] Trent's [Reznor] done in the last five years." Worden indicated the song didn't strike her as angry. Rather the beat is what made an impression. "I wouldn't say that it's dance-y, but it does have a great beat, a groove. Trent really brought it with this song. It's going to sound amazing to new fans and old. It's just cool."
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=190830&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=190830&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
OMG HOLY SHITFUCK AWESOMESAUCE!!!! :omg: :metal :hefdaddy
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New album title is "Hesitation Marks" according to Soundcloud where the song is.
Thanks for the catch. Also, the link I posted was the radio edit I think. The Soundcloud one has the full version.
https://soundcloud.com/nineinchnails/came-back-haunted-2013 (https://soundcloud.com/nineinchnails/came-back-haunted-2013)
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https://pitchfork.com/news/51053-nine-inch-nails-announce-massive-tour-with-godspeed-you-black-emperor/ (https://pitchfork.com/news/51053-nine-inch-nails-announce-massive-tour-with-godspeed-you-black-emperor/)
(https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll264/ahrinin/MotherOfGod.jpg)
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News of this tour is bittersweet, since the Philly date is a part of the Made In America festival, which is $170 for a GA ticket where 34 out of the 36 bands I have no interest in seeing and I already have work that weekend so...
Looks like I'm sitting this one out. :sadpanda:
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ORLANDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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really can't stand the new song, but that tour with GY!BE is awfully exciting :O
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Yeah, can't say "Came Back Haunted" is doing much for me. It reminds me of Year Zero's stuff.
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really can't stand the new song
That makes two of us.
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/93/Nine_Inch_Nails_-_Hesitation_Marks_album_art.jpg/600px-Nine_Inch_Nails_-_Hesitation_Marks_album_art.jpg)
Love it. Already feels like a classic NIN cover.
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https://pitchfork.com/news/51053-nine-inch-nails-announce-massive-tour-with-godspeed-you-black-emperor/ (https://pitchfork.com/news/51053-nine-inch-nails-announce-massive-tour-with-godspeed-you-black-emperor/)
(https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll264/ahrinin/MotherOfGod.jpg)
Goddamnit.
I'll be in Vegas when they're in Chicago. FUUUUUUU
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Closest they're getting to Austin is San Antonio, and the show's on a Tuesday. Hmmm... :justjen
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Well I for one like the new tune. :P
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^^^ #6666 :xbones :metal
I forgot to say that I do too. Wey said it kind of reminded him of stuff from The Fragile, but it reminds me of stuff from With Teeth.
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The Came Back Haunted-single cover art is made by Russell Mills, who made covers for The Downward Spiral, Further Down the Spiral, Closer to God and March of the Pigs-single. I guess the album cover is made by him too. I like it.
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Well, it looks like Adrian belew has dropped out of the band.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/adrian-belew-leaves-nine-inch-nails-20130607
That sucks, I was really looking forward to his involvement.
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:(
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Snagged a ticket to see them in November. Surprised to get a decent location in the venue too.
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:tup
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1) "The Eater of Dreams"
2) "Copy of A"
3) "Came Back Haunted"
4) "Find My Way"
5) "All Time Low"
6) "Disappointed"
7) "Everything"
8) "Satellite"
9) "Various Methods of Escape"
10) "Running"
11) "I Would for You"
12) "In Two"
13) "While I'm Still Here"
14) "Black Noise"
Along with the tracklist, Hesitation Marks' album credits have also been revealed.
The album will feature Lindsey Buckingham of Fleetwood Mac, former Who bassist Pino
Palladino, and King Crimson's Adrian Belew, who recently left the band.
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The album will feature Lindsey Buckingham of Fleetwood Mac
holy shit wat
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Nine Inch Nails - And All That Could Have Been has just come on my player.
*sigh* :'(
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The album will feature Lindsey Buckingham of Fleetwood Mac
holy shit wat
I know right. Interesting collaboration for a NIN project, but I'm still curious to hear his contribution.
But at the end of the day, If your gonna get someone from Fleetwood Mac, the choice is obvious. Stevie Nicks and NIN are like peanut butter and jelly, they are meant to be together...
(in my dreams) ;)
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The album will feature Lindsey Buckingham of Fleetwood Mac
holy shit wat
Yeah, no kidding - that's about a dichotomy right there.
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OK, I watched the video for Came Back Haunted and I'm very disappointed. The song is good, but the video is just horrible. But then again, NIN has some rather bad videos (yes, The Perfect Drug, I'm looking at you!).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RN6pT3zL44
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OK, I watched the video for Came Back Haunted and I'm very disappointed. The song is good, but the video is just horrible. But then again, NIN has some rather bad videos (yes, The Perfect Drug, I'm looking at you!).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RN6pT3zL44
TPD is the bad video par excellance for you? i gather you've not had the pleasure of meeting the video for "Deep," then :rollin
i like that they got David Lynch for the "Came Back Haunted" video, but yeah, i dislike it about as much as the song itself. kinda wish they'd gone full-tilt and done a mini-movie with him.
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OK, I watched the video for Came Back Haunted and I'm very disappointed. The song is good, but the video is just horrible. But then again, NIN has some rather bad videos (yes, The Perfect Drug, I'm looking at you!).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RN6pT3zL44
TPD is the bad video par excellance for you? i gather you've not had the pleasure of meeting the video for "Deep," then :rollin
Oh yes I have. It's not good either. What does some security boxes and corrosive dye have to do with anything? :rollin
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A new song Find My Way was debuted when they played the Fuji Rock festival
As with Came Back Haunted, sadly, I wasn't very impressed by it.
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A new song Find My Way was debuted when they played the Fuji Rock festival
As with Came Back Haunted, sadly, I wasn't very impressed by it.
And Copy of A.
SETLIST! SPOILER ALERT!
1. Copy of A
2. Sanctified (first time since 1996!)
3. Came Back Haunted
4. 1,000,000
5. March of the Pigs
6. Piggy
7. Reptile
8. Terrible Lie
9. Closer
10. Gave Up
11. Help Me I Am in Hell
12. Me, I'm Not
13. Find My Way
14. The Way Out Is Through
15. Wish
16. Survivalism
17. The Good Soldier
18. Only
19. The Hand That Feeds
20. Head Like a Hole
21. Hurt
Pretty much of a greatest hits-set, but nothing wrong with it. I wished they would wipe the dust off Sanctified, so the wish came true. And The Way Out Is Through is definately a surprise, it has been played on Fragility v1.0 and a few times on Wave Goodbye. I would've liked to have more songs from The Fragile though. But Trent have had a tendency of rotating setlists, so no need to worry.
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Disappointed from Hesitation Marks premiered at Ansan Valley Rock Festival yesterday. And so did What If We Could? from Girl With a Dragon Tattoo-soundtrack.
SETLIST! SPOILER ALERT!
1. Copy of A
2. Disappointed
3. Came Back Haunted
4. 1,000,000
5. March of the Pigs
6. Piggy
7. The Frail
8. The Wretched
9. Terrible Lie
10. Burn
11. Closer
12. Gave Up
13. Help Me I Am in Hell
14. The Warning
15. What If We Could?
16. The Way Out Is Through
17. Wish
18. Survivalism
19. Only
20. The Hand That Feeds
21. Head Like a Hole
22. Hurt
YES! More stuff from The Fragile! Burn and The Warning are cool songs too. And the most important thing: they are rotating setlists!
I really liked Copy of A and Find My Way. I'm starting to get really hyped about Hesitation Marks.
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Sorry for triple posting.
But if I'm going to run a NIN survivor, it's going to include Hesitation Marks, so it should begin somewhere in September/October.
This is how I have planned it. The longer the album, the more songs to the finals. The Fragile is separated into two discs and Ghosts I-IV is omitted:
Pretty Hate Machine: 2 to finals, 1 to consolation
Broken: 2 to finals, 1 to consolation
The Downward Spiral: 3 to finals, 2 to consolation
The Fragile (Left): 2 to finals, 2 to consolation
The Fragile (Right): 2 to finals, 1 to consolation
With Teeth: 3 to finals, 2 to consolation
Year Zero: 3 to finals, 1 to consolation
The Slip: 2 to finals, 1 to consolation
Hesitation Marks: 3 to finals, 1 to consolation
Miscellaneous: 3 to consolation
Consolation: 15 songs, 3 to finals
Finals: 25 songs
Songs in miscellaneous round:
Get Down, Make Love (Queen cover, Sin B-side)
(You're So) Physical (Adam and the Ants cover, bonus track on Broken)
Suck (Pigface cover, bonus track on Broken)
Burn (Natural Born Killers soundtrack)
Dead Souls (Joy Division cover, The Crow soundtrack)
The Perfect Drug (Lost Highway soundtrack, Halo 11 (though the Halo consists only of remixes)
10 Miles High (The Fragile vinyl)
The New Flesh (The Fragile vinyl)
The Great Collapse (Things Falling Apart)
Metal (Gary Numan cover, Things Falling Apart)
Deep (Lara Croft: Tomb Raider soundtrack)
Home (Non-US pressings of With Teeth)
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Copy Of A sounds great ^_____________^ !!!!!!!
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I decided to preorder the deluxe edition + LP . This is going to be great! BUt IMO Copy Of A needs some distorted guitars.
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But if I'm going to run a NIN survivor, it's going to include Hesitation Marks, so it should begin somewhere in September/October.
Looking forward joining that, finally. ;) :D
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But if I'm going to run a NIN survivor, it's going to include Hesitation Marks, so it should begin somewhere in September/October.
Looking forward joining that, finally. ;) :D
:lol.
Three more weeks! :caffeine:
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They just released a new single to NPR called Everything
https://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2013/08/19/213497724/new-music-nine-inch-nails-earl-sweatshirt-juana-molina-more#playlist
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Such a fun, upbeat song. Didn't expect that at all from them but I'm still digging it a lot :tup
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Whoa o.o what a suprising song. I didn't like it very much but I'll try to listen it more.
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Trent goes Green Day? :lol
E: I'm not going to double post, but NIN played the first club show of the tour and the setlist was the best so far.
https://www.ninwiki.com/2013/08/20_London,_England
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Just heard the new album. Tentatively, I'd say it's NIN's best since The Fragile though I'll have to listen to it a lot more before I cement that opinion.
Standouts: Copy of A, Came Back Haunted, Find My Way, All Time Low, Everything, Satellite, I Would For You, In Two
Edit: Now streaming in full on Itunes: https://search.itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZContentLink.woa/wa/link?path=NineInchNails?iqTagFallback=facebook.com (https://search.itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZContentLink.woa/wa/link?path=NineInchNails?iqTagFallback=facebook.com)
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Finally got to listen Hesitation Marks. After first listen I would say it's way better than The Slip!
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After listening to Akira Yamaoka, Arcade Fire and Boards Of Canada discography, my next step might be NIN so, Downward Spiral and Fragile, here i come :corn
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After listening to Akira Yamaoka, Arcade Fire and Boards Of Canada discography, my next step might be NIN so, Downward Spiral and Fragile, here i come :corn
If you like heavy stuff dont forget Broken-EP .. It ROcks!
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After listening to Akira Yamaoka, Arcade Fire and Boards Of Canada discography, my next step might be NIN so, Downward Spiral and Fragile, here i come :corn
If you like heavy stuff dont forget Broken-EP .. It ROcks!
Just listened to it today. Happiness in Slavery! :metal :metal :metal
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After listening to Akira Yamaoka, Arcade Fire and Boards Of Canada discography, my next step might be NIN so, Downward Spiral and Fragile, here i come :corn
If you like heavy stuff dont forget Broken-EP .. It ROcks!
Yeah, i always start listening to the albums that are considered the best, then, if i like, i check the other stuff of course.
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New album is pretty sweet.
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Thomas Giles tells me to like it.
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The second half of Hesitation Marks is amazing! :3 I like this shit!
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I thought Came Back Haunted was kind of terrible, so I'm hoping it's one of the weaker songs on the album.
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I'll wait for my physical copy of a (pun intended) Hesitation Marks CD.
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Fucking sexy album. Need more time with it though..
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"Hesitation Marks was mastered in two different ways - the standard, “loud” mastering (which is what you’ll find on the CD, on iTunes, and everywhere else), and also an alternate “audiophile” mastering, which we’re offering as a free download option for anyone who purchases the album through https://store.nin.com/ . For the majority of people, the standard version will be preferable and differences will be difficult to detect. Audiophiles with high-end equipment and an understanding of the mastering process might prefer the alternate version.
For a detailed explanation with quotes from Alan Moulder and Tom Baker, read our blog post at https://nineinchnails.tumblr.com/post/59587808317/hesitation-marks-was-mastered-in-two-different
NOTE: The standard mastered version is in no way inferior to the Audiophile Version - we wouldn’t release something inferior as the default. And vinyl purists rest assured, the vinyl edition was mastered to sound the very best for that format. The Audiophile Version is merely an alternate take on the mastering, which some people will appreciate. It’s meant to give a slightly different experience, not denigrate the standard version. Listen to each and come to your own conclusions."
Having no prior interest in NIN I almost want to buy the album just for this bit of foresight.
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I really, really can't imagine you liking them.
In other news, The Downward Spiral is amazing, as is Ghosts. Haven't fully digested the other albums yet, but I'm sure to do so in the future.
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I love The Fragile.
Don't really enjoy much else.
Some of With Teeth was good as was some of The Slip.
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I really love everything NIN I have ever heard from NIN (but I have not been a follower of recent material).
I do think that (even more so than TDS and Fragile) Pretty Hate Machine is one of the most groundbreaking albums ever released. I mean....when that album was released, you just knew that it was going to be the start of something *very* big.
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I listened to the entirety of The Fragile on a really long walk once and loved it.
Don't really like The Downward Spiral as much.
I liked WIth Teeth and The Slip and wanna check out the new one.
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"Hesitation Marks was mastered in two different ways - the standard, “loud” mastering (which is what you’ll find on the CD, on iTunes, and everywhere else), and also an alternate “audiophile” mastering, which we’re offering as a free download option for anyone who purchases the album through https://store.nin.com/ .
Very cool
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It's a great idea to release an audiophile version of the album and I was really excited to read about that even though I'm not a fan of NIN.... But it seems to be a huge disappointment. :/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Rb2-F86RW9E&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DRb2-F86RW9E%26feature%3Dyoutu.be (https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Rb2-F86RW9E&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DRb2-F86RW9E%26feature%3Dyoutu.be)
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It's a great idea to release an audiophile version of the album and I was really excited to read about that even though I'm not a fan of NIN.... But it seems to be a huge disappointment. :/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Rb2-F86RW9E&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DRb2-F86RW9E%26feature%3Dyoutu.be (https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Rb2-F86RW9E&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DRb2-F86RW9E%26feature%3Dyoutu.be)
I really don't think you should let Youtube indicate that.
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While I by no means consider myself an audiophile, I do have a few friends that have spieled me enough to know a little bit about it. That said, I'm impressed how well this album sounds on the standard version. There's clearly many different layers being used and a lot of quiet backing beats that really pop when you listen to the audiophile version, which I just did. It's....a whole different album when played on the respective sound system. My friend has a room that is built completely, solely for listening to music.
A whole room...which is built inside and out to be completely sound-proof inside and out and with speakers on every single wall and corner. It's amazing, and something I would consider a huge waste of money. But for the hour and a half that I was in there, it was an amazing trip and a ride that I'd gladly take again. This album is much, much more than meets the eye. The things that I heard...it...well it aroused me. Greatly. This album is awesome, but listening to it right now on my shitty little speakers, I realize that they really are two different albums. Both the set-up and album have to be completely changed. Still a wonderfully fun album, but the work put into this is borderline Wilson-esque.
Awesome album, my two favorites are still Find My Way and I Would For You, especially in the audiophile version. Two of the easiest songs to groove to that are much more than they seem.
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Now I've listened to Hesitation Marks twice. I didn't really like it first time, but on another listen with
headphones it began to sound a lot better. I'd say I enjoy it more than Year Zero (which is very good, but a
bit too long, 16 songs are simply too much).
Like every other NIN album, it sounds rather unique. Instead of walls of distortion on The Slip, the songs are
based more on electronic beats and sounds. Live drums are almost completely absent. I'd say it's the most
danceable album since PHM.
On the first time I found lot of things to criticize. First and foremost, Trent has began to use similar song structures. It is a rather new phenomenon, i.e. the songs on With Teeth don't sound pretty much anything else they had done before or similat to each other. On Year Zero, however, the some songs began to resemblance each other (choruses of The Big Come Down and The Beginning of the End, vocal rhythms in verses of The Good Soldier and God Given...). Most of the track on HM remind of me something else they have done before, or I recognize some structure I've heard before, like one different chord per one measure-chorus, and this pattern is repeated four times (All Time Low, Disappointed and Running, previously on The Line Begins to Blur and In This Twilight). Trent should break these musical rules he seem to have set himself. Even though the album sounds quite unique sonically, the songs don't that much. I hear echoes from Year Zero, The Fragile and The Slip, and on some rare occasion from With Teeth and The Downward Spiral. Lyrics aren't what they used to be, there are no masterpieces like Sanctified, Hurt or Somewhat Damaged. I know Trent is happier than ever so I guess he isn't able to write so, ehm, angsty (in a good way) lyrics, but if he's happy, I am too.
But you know what? The album rocks anyway! There are no songs I dislike, and there is still some very fresh sounding tracks, like Copy of A, Find My Way, Disappointed and Running. I think it still has potential to grow, but I don't think it's not going to pass other albums than YZ because of its flaws.
Oh, and NIN survivor is going to begin 13th of September.
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I bought Hesitation Marks LP and CD .. That damn LP had the cd insert with it :-X Now I have two cd's
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NIN survivor is underway!
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=38936.0
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I'm new here and I decided that I'd put my first post here. I'm a super fan of Nine Inch Nails. They are one of my favorite bands. I'm going to see them live in Pittsburgh on October 8th! The new album "Hesitation Marks" is pretty great but not as good as "The Fragile" in my opinion.
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I'm new here and I decided that I'd put my first post here. I'm a super fan of Nine Inch Nails. They are one of my favorite bands. I'm going to see them live in Pittsburgh on October 8th! The new album "Hesitation Marks" is pretty great but not as good as "The Fragile" in my opinion.
I wasn't blown away by Hesitation marks. I liked The Slip and With Teeth but The Fragile is by far the best.
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Honestly, I haven't heard much of anything from NIN aside from the 'most popular' hits over the years. I really love Hesitation Marks and it's still getting some good play-time (I can't get enough of I Would For You) though, so perhaps I'll delve more into their works. I recall thinking that Terrible Lie was the best thing I'd ever heard when it originally released.
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Honestly, I haven't heard much of anything from NIN aside from the 'most popular' hits over the years. I really love Hesitation Marks and it's still getting some good play-time (I can't get enough of I Would For You) though, so perhaps I'll delve more into their works. I recall thinking that Terrible Lie was the best thing I'd ever heard when it originally released.
Pretty Hate Machine is the closest in style to Hesitation Marks; dark, synthy and danceable. :)
It's also a great album.
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It's not completely sure, whether this rehearsal show took place or not, but God what a setlist! Tonight is the first show Tension 2013 and I'm pretty excited to see, what they're going to play. Please, please.
https://www.ninwiki.com/2013/09/21_Los_Angeles,_CA
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Going to their show tomorrow in KC. I'm not familiar with most of their discography, so I'm listening to the songs from this setlist (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/nine-inch-nails/2013/xcel-energy-center-st-paul-mn-5bc7f360.html) so I can be familiar with the songs. Hopefully they don't change too much from that one.
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Usually they have had some rotation, but probably it will be pretty much the same, sans two-three songs.
Enjoy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBC3NXnN8y4
Don't know if this was posted before but it's totally amazing.
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"This is a Trent Reznor song"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSXE5np_Tk
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The Slip was ok but Hesitation Marks was junk.
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Hesitation Marks was great.
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The Slip was ok but Hesitation Marks was junk.
This
There was a time when I would have considered NIN to be one of my top 3 favorite bands, but after the release of Hesitation marks, I have lost almost all interest.
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Hesitation Marks was great.
I enjoyed Hesitation Marks too. I think its going to be hard for him ever to reproduce the grit from the early years. Many times albums like those are formed in a rare space in an artists life. Who knows though. Still, I liked the newest album pretty well!
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I love Hesitation Marks, very impressive album. What i'm really curious about and will soon listen to is the album he did that's mostly ambient in style. idk what the title was, but it seems like it could be cool.
I like how NIN has been popular and 'in style' ever since they began their career. They've managed to bypass all the trends in music, yet have stayed modern sounding. Downward Spiral does not sound 'aged'. Although maybe in 80 years this wont be the case, but for now i see it this way..
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I liked Hesitation Marks.
Oh and by the way,I've only heard Hesitation Marks and The Fragile in full. Any tips/recommendations?
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I like how NIN has been popular and 'in style' ever since they began their career. They've managed to bypass all the trends in music, yet have stayed modern sounding. Downward Spiral does not sound 'aged'. Although maybe in 80 years this wont be the case, but for now i see it this way..
I agree with this, although especially WRT The Downward Spiral. It does not sound like an album from the early 90's. Part of that is the production on it (the drums are MASSIVE) and the other part is the music itself.
Pretty Hate Machine does sound like something that crawled up and out of the 80's though. Still a great album. :)
I liked Hesitation Marks.
Oh and by the way,I've only heard Hesitation Marks and The Fragile in full. Any tips/recommendations?
Pretty Hate Machine and The Downward Spiral.
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I know NiN is really just Reznor, but has other musicians he tours with for live shows.
I'v never seen a NiN show. When live, what instruments does he play himself? Theres a ton of electronic stuff in their music, is any of their music prerecorded at live shows?
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Based on what i've seen from live DVDs - he has a full band playing - He plays rhythm mostly.
I'm thinking the synths are set up to play the sounds for each song and they just play over it.
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I know NiN is really just Reznor, but has other musicians he tours with for live shows.
I'v never seen a NiN show. When live, what instruments does he play himself? Theres a ton of electronic stuff in their music, is any of their music prerecorded at live shows?
every tour is different, but the basic setup has a live guitarist, keyboardist, bassist, drummer, and TR singing without playing anything. they play everything to a click and having backing tracks but they're usually just essentials — the "machine gun" loop in "Reptile," for instance, or the beat loop in "The Mark Has Been Made." TR only plays when needed (and gets the tambourine when there's a break with nothing to play!) so that his vocals don't suck. the essential idea is that as much as possible is performed live, even if it means Ilan Rubin has to play an e-kit instead of a real drumset.
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I liked Hesitation Marks.
I like Hesitation Marks too, but it's my least favourite NIN record by far, save Ghosts I-IV which I have yet to hear.
Oh and by the way,I've only heard Hesitation Marks and The Fragile in full. Any tips/recommendations?
Pretty Hate Machine and The Downward Spiral.
All NIN albums up to HM are great, but those two are good starters.
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They just announced a summer tour with Soundgarden.
https://www.facebook.com/ninofficial
I would have just been happy seeing NIN, but soundgarden is a very solid bonus.
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Wow, I'll actually get to see Soundgarden and NIN.
It'd be cool if he played La Mer. But I doubt it.
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They just announced a summer tour with Soundgarden.
https://www.facebook.com/ninofficial
I would have just been happy seeing NIN, but soundgarden is a very solid bonus.
HNGGGGGG :o
That was the sound I made upon reading this and I'm still making it right now.
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I'll be going to see Soundgarden/NIN in about 2 weeks!
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Saw them recently in Denver and yes, badass show! I heard stuff I wasn't really expecting to, which was cool.
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I saw them about 2 months ago, really liked the light show. They played a nice selection of songs, and even though I only own 3 albums by them I knew most songs on the setlist.
However; I'd only slept a few hours the night before, and that was in a tent standing directly in the sun (which means really hot). I think I'd have enjoyed it more if I hadn't been so tired ::)
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Yeah, I don't have any of their recent stuff but did know most of the set, which was nice. It was so cool to hear Eraser!
Not to mention this was at Red Rocks, one of the best fucking venues you can see a show at :D :metal
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Went to the show last night at Jones Beach...very impressive! Many artists seem to lose their edge when they clean up; Trent Reznor is clearly not one of them. I can't imagine being able to bring that level of intensity to songs I'd been performing for 20+ years.
It was also the most interesting stage show I've seen for a rock concert.
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I know that NIN's most known album is The Downward Spiral, but what do people think about The Fragile? Personally, I like The Fragile a lot more, but I never see it get a lot of public recognition compared to The Downward Spiral.
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I know that NIN's most known album is The Downward Spiral, but what do people think about The Fragile? Personally, I like The Fragile a lot more, but I never see it get a lot of public recognition compared to The Downward Spiral.
i've been around the NINternet for a while now (since 2002, fairly actively on forums) and from my experience The Fragile is overwhelmingly the top of the list for the dedicated fanbase. obviously there are serious pockets that put TDS or PHM at the top but i'd say they are fewer in number than TF.
the big difference is the critical reception – response to TF at the time was negative compared to the way TDS made the band explode into the public. over time, that has changed dramatically.
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I still have to give it a good listen, its just that it's too much - 2 discs of industrial rock, split into 24 tracks.
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The Fragile has always been my favorite. I'd pick it over The Downward Spiral any day. Not that TDS is bad, it's still amazing, but The Fragile is Reznor's finest achievement IMO.
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I know that NIN's most known album is The Downward Spiral, but what do people think about The Fragile? Personally, I like The Fragile a lot more, but I never see it get a lot of public recognition compared to The Downward Spiral.
Listened to it recently. Very good album, I do prefer The Downward Spiral, but I admire The Fragile for its creativity.
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I like TDS on the whole just a little better. They're very different feeling albums to me but they're both great! There is sooooo much in The Fragile to dig through and with the style I can see that it would be difficult for some to see the complete picture. It's awesome though!
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I find The Fragile to be a bit too much music for one sit-through, but overall I like it and "We're In This Together" is one of my favorite songs by the band. It's one of those songs that's so good that it feels much faster than seven minutes long.
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Still no news of 2016 NIN, but Trent's new song (https://twitter.com/trent_reznor/status/784429707605389312) for the Before the Flood film is fucking gorgeous.
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New NIN EP to be released next friday 12/23, a vinyl only reissue of The Fragile is also coming soon it looks like
https://pitchfork.com/news/67281-nine-inch-nails-announce-new-ep-not-the-actual-events-vinyl-reissue-series/ (https://pitchfork.com/news/67281-nine-inch-nails-announce-new-ep-not-the-actual-events-vinyl-reissue-series/)
nin.com is currently down but this is supposedly the tracklist of the EP
Not The Actual Events EP
- BRANCHES/BONES
- DEAR WORLD,
- SHE'S GONE AWAY
- THE IDEA OF YOU
- BURNING BRIGHT (FIELD ON FIRE)
Edit: added title of EP.
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:dangerwillrobinson: I'M FUCKING HYPED AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH :dangerwillrobinson:
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Those who preordered the EP can download the tracks now. I had one listen through the 5 tracks, and first impression is that there is a wide range of styles mixed in here. All very good tracks have to add.
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I'm listening to it rn, and damn this is some experimental stuff. Digging it.
EDIT: Finished. Oh yeah, this one is great. The last track tho :o
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I hated hesitation marks.
This new EP is not bad. Definitely more of the vibe that I dig from them.
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So Trent Reznor sent out an email regarding the delayed delivery of the vinyl preorders and casually dropped the news that they are to release a new EP soon before their tour, which as it turns out is part of a trilogy.
I also listened to the new EP recently and like it way more than when I first listened to it.
Here's his email, yes he wrote it in caps.
QUESTION: FINALLY, DID YOU KNOW THERE’S A NEW TOP-SECRET NINE INCH NAILS EP THAT WILL BE RELEASED BEFORE THE FIRST SHOWS WE DO THIS SUMMER? DID YOU KNOW NOT THE ACTUAL EVENTS WAS THE FIRST PART OF A TRILOGY OF RELATED EPS THAT WILL BE RELEASED ABOUT 6-8 MONTHS APART? NOW YOU DO. MORE INFORMATION ON THIS SHORTLY…
THANK YOU. TRENT
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New song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=263&v=_g8nAqDu3gI
Me likey
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Both new tracks are excellent.
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The EP 'Add Violence' is out and I'm listening to it. Got the 24 bit wav version. The last track 'The Background World' is almost 12 mins long making it NIN's longest song I believe.
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Listening to it rn, very good stuff. Last track rules :metal
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I need to listen to it more, but so far I am liking it. Its got the bleepy, bloopy electronic thing going on and I am down. This isn't the place and the backround world are early favorites
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Aw yeah, this shit is awesome. The Background World is all kinds of sexy and dark. What the man does best.
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The new album is pretty solid. Its a little With teeh and a little The fragile and I dig it.
The background world is damn good and my favorite on the album so far is This isn't the place.
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Damn, I love The Background World a whole hell of a lot. Especially the lines starting from "There is no moving past" to "Behind the background world is always bleeding through"
So many fucking goosebumps.
I kinda wish the whole song was an actual song instead of that ending of it basically just being static and corrupted music but I'm sure there's some kind of swanky message Mr. Reznor wants to send with that.
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I totally agree. An incredible song with that wacky static at the end that overstays its welcome. If it would have blended into static and the faded out over like 20 seconds, then i think it would have been better.
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Eh, it has some kind of point, somehow. People have already put up edits, which was inevitable. Pretty much every long NIN song is a bit needless, usually caused by too much repetition – their cover of Memorabilia, Corona Radiata, even Reptile and Closer overstay their welcome (imo!). The only 'long' NIN songs I think really work are We're in This Together and And All That Could Have Been.
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Some people have done a spectograph of the track and I think it shows some coordinates or some shit like that. From what I've read so far, the 3 EPs might piece together something similar to what was done with Year Zero's counterpart game that Trent setup. Each EP has a "physical component" that ships if you order from nin.com. I think they're supposed to thematically tie together and I suppose be part of the experience.
While I think many NIN fans love that sort of attention to detail, many may not care for it. I'm somewhere in the middle. I bought both EPs from the nin store and already have the first EP's physical component which is a bunch of cards covered in some annoying makeup dust that gets everywhere. The second component has been shipped and it looks like some kind of manual for some machine.
As far as the music itself I LOVE the second EP, I don't skip a single track and for some reason I'm actually mesmerized by the long repeating looping outro of Background World. I'm curious about the 3rd and final EP which hopefully should be ready in another six months or thereabouts.
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Wow! Had no idea about any of that. A few years ago I totally would've been into that but as of now I just don't give a shit. :lol If the music is awesome, and thus far it has been, then I am totally down for whatever convoluted shit the man can come up with otherwise, as long as the music comes first (which is never a worry with NIN).
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Wow! Had no idea about any of that. A few years ago I totally would've been into that but as of now I just don't give a shit. :lol If the music is awesome, and thus far it has been, then I am totally down for whatever convoluted shit the man can come up with otherwise, as long as the music comes first (which is never a worry with NIN).
Amen to that. As a teenager, I just had to have all the gimmicky collector's edition shit and then one day I looked at my self and I saw a bunch of cheap, plastic junk cluttering up my house and my life and I was like enough of this. It cool if people dig that stuff, but Now I just want a digital download with kick ass music and I am set.
Luckily, Add violence delivers. I haven't enjoyed a NIN album as much as I have like this one for a very long ass time.
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People are receiving Not the Actual Events vinyl now and, in addition to the return of the 'black dust' from the physical component, side B of the record is the final trio of The Downward Spiral... in reverse.
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Finally got all the main releases on CD, I believe there's a CD for Add Violence listed on Amazon releasing on the 22nd of Sept. I might get some of the remix albums too, won't bother with the singles.
(https://i.imgur.com/F3YxC52m.jpg)
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The last EP of the trilogy is announced. Titled "Bad Witch."
https://pitchfork.com/news/nine-inch-nails-announce-tour-and-new-bad-witch-ep/
Seven second teaser on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fninofficial%2Fvideos%2F10156209819411221%2F&show_text=0&width=476
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Hell yeah :2metal:
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If it is as strong as the 2nd EP in the trilogy, then I will be a happy camper.
I would go see them again too, but they aren't coming near philly. Oh well, next time. That was a great live show.
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Saw the news today, very excited. Good thing it's dropping soon, a month-ish wait isn't that long. NA Tour was announced as well. Interesting take on selling only tickets at the box office first. Online possibly only much later.
Even the album isn't on sale yet on a separate digital medium. You only get the mp3s if you get the Vinyl set.
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Man I was wondering if this was still going to happen considering he originally planned to have it out a while ago. Super excited for this though, the previous EP is one of my favorites.
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New song
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/listen-to-new-nine-inch-nails-song-god-break-down-the-door/
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I can hear the Blackstar influences, great track :metal
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Pretty cool, I'm sure it will grow on me like many other NIN songs. I'll be waiting in line on Saturday for tickets in NYC :metal
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Really interesting and cool. I cannot wait to listen to all these albums back to back to back. Fantastic stuff from this man, always.
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New album out today. Bad Witch
(https://www.loudandquiet.com/files/2018/06/nine-inch-nails-bad-witch-artwork.jpg)
All over the place style wise, kind of an experimental vibe in some place. I think I like it? Will have to listen to it more.
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Hm. Yeah definitely more "noisy" than actual accentuated music to the common ear. I feel like you need to be smoking a fancy cigar and/or painting a picturing a Bohemian model to get this shit while you listen to it. Like it's too much for my simple ears. Definitely off the beaten path. Way off. I'm not sure what he's going for, but it seems to me like he's trying to create a new genre that is somewhere nestled between jazz and industrial metal. He's got the industrial, and then he's got this off beat, seemingly randomized drums, horns, and god knows what else behind it.
I like it.
But I also kind of hate it.
But then I like it again.
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Gave it one listen so far and have to say this is very different from the rest of the EPs so far in the trilogy. I'm not sure yet what to make of it. Like Jorge mentioned, big mix of jazz and industrial in there. I'll have to give it several meaningful listens to get familiar with it.
I think there are shades of The Slip and Ghosts with some new takes and maybe a little Broken in there as well. On the whole a very different take. Going to be interesting how they age for me.
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I've already forgotten about it.
Still really like the 2nd EP though.
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Okay, I get it.
I just listened to all three of them back to back and...what a fucking ride. It's like the incomprehensible finale of destruction to the already violent story that started it all. I'm still ambivalent on the REALLY crazy aspects that are filled with actual noise. I don't mean that in the old codger sense of speaking about music as noise, but some of it really is just a whole lot of sounds that ends up being white noise unless you've got really good headphones on and the volume turned way up and even then it's pretty nonsensical, but I think that's the point. Kinda like the ending to Add Violence.
Really interesting stuff. Taken alone it's total nonsense and kind of annoying. Really annoying, actually. But with the right state of mind (I was reading my favorite uber-violent manga "Gantz", started at chapter 303, while listening) it's pretty awesome. Basically anything crazy and violent fits really well with this. Given that they're both basically composers for movies now, I cannot possible think that didn't affect the making of these albums. Every song could basically fill the fight scene to the original Old Boy.
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New album is really good
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It's like it's clicked back to being okay...lol.
I think I only like this part of the trio if I listen to all of them together. Otherwise it's like it doesn't make sense...if that makes sense. I kinda wish I could listen to it solo like I can the other two but I really can't and totally enjoy it.
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So I've been listening to this podcast called Songexploder. Each episode features an artist dissecting one of their songs and talking about it in depth. I've just listened to the Nine Inch Nails episode so thought I'd post it here.
https://songexploder.net/nine-inch-nails (https://songexploder.net/nine-inch-nails)
Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross pull apart "The Lovers" on this one. It's pretty cool.
Sacul, sure you'll love this.
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Indeed, that was an awesome podcast thanks for sharing :metal
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Just wanted to bump this thread and say that I just saw NIN at Radio City Music Hall on Saturday. It was one of the best concerts I've ever been to in my entire life... what an incredible performance. :tup
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I'm really hoping they release a concert video from this tour. I saw them on the 2nd night on Atlanta and it was fantastic too. The rotating setlist they've been doing this tour has brought out some really classic and deep cuts.
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Nine Inch Nails just released two new albums for free
Ghosts V and VI are available to download and stream
https://www.nin.com/
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I thought of posting it here in the morning but I would probably be one of two people on this board listening to it. ;D
Listened to Together, it's more in line with their Waves soundtrack than the original Ghosts album.
Now on to Locusts.
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Never really listened to anything by NiN consciously... this might be a good moment to start. What would you guys recommend for a rookie?
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Geez their discography is all over the place. I guess most would say The Downward Spiral and even maybe The Slip. Those two albums have the more classic elements of rock and industrial in them.
Depends a lot on your taste too. If you're into classic prog rock or even metal prog rock, these guys will not be your cup of tea.
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I think The Fragile is the best album but it might also be a bit daunting considering it's a double album. The Downward Spiral is the 'classic' so you might start there though I think even an album like With Teeth might work well as an introduction since it has a bit more of the modern NiN sound to it.
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Nine Inch Nails just released two new albums for free
Ghosts V and VI are available to download and stream
https://www.nin.com/
Thanks for the heads up!
Never really listened to anything by NiN consciously... this might be a good moment to start. What would you guys recommend for a rookie?
Depends on what you like. I started with Pretty Hate Machine, but got hooked on with Broken and The Downward Spiral. The Downward Spiral is my favourite of theirs and pretty diverse in style, although quite dark. If you're a metalhead, definitely give Broken a spin (don't forget the hidden tracks!). With Teeth is probably the most "accessible" of their records, on it NIN sounds like an actual band to me. And I'd also recommend Pretty Hate Machine, it has an interesting brand of dark industrial pop I've never encountered elsewhere.
The Fragile is an interesting one, it is quite experimental. To me it has couple of duds (not surprising considering its length), but most of it is really good.
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The Fragile was what got me into them, actually. Length-aside, I'd definitely consider it to be more accessible than The Downward Spiral or a lot of their other stuff. Same goes for With Teeth, but I don't think that one's quite as good as the other two I've mentioned.
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I also recommend The Fragile. That's the album that got me into them.
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I also recommend The Fragile. That's the album that got me into them.
Me too.
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Thanks guys, I think I read The Fragile the most... will listen to it :)
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For me when I first listened to NIN I tried with the Fragile and it kinda did the opposite, it turned me off them for a while. It can be a lot to take in since they are two 2 discs of material. It's definately an amazing album with some of their best stuff but it can be daunting to start off with. Again different strokes for different folks.
I personally have a hard time deciding which album of theirs is my favorite.
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I tried to go to Downward spiral first, but it was just too much. It was like trying to hold fire in my hands. Its so full of rage and despair that I was almost scared of it. Its now one of my favorite albums, but I only break it out when I need to.
The Fragile is a much more somber and introspective album imo. Its born of a man further along in life and more reflective. Its passionate and beautiful, but hopeful at the same time. I've always found it very uplifting.