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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: KevShmev on November 27, 2022, 08:31:43 PM
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Okay, I promised I would do this one next, and I am clearly a glutton for punishment, so as we count down the singers in that thread here in the next two weeks, let's prepare our lists for the top 40 by Led Zeppelin! :metal :metal
I will count down the top 40 songs songs in order, and they will be taken from lists of anyone who wants to send me theirs via PM. Do not post them on the forum here. Send them to me via PM. I will take all of the lists and come up with a top 40 based off all lists cumulatively and count the songs down from 40 to 1.
The rules:
-Songs must be listed from 40 to 1 in order (in reverse order), with no ties. No having three songs at number 1 or anything like that. 40 songs, listed from 40 to 1. DO NOT list your songs with the points total. List them in your order (I will figure out the points on my end). Any list submitted with the songs not numbered will be ignored.
-Anyone wanting to submit a list must do so by the end of day, Saturday, December 17th. I will then begin the countdown the following Monday. This should give anyone and everyone time to listen to the band's songs.
-The list will be tallied numerically in a simple way. On each list, whatever song is at number 1 gets 40 points, number 2 gets 39 points, number 3 gets 38 points, etc.
-Like before, no more Mr. Nice Guy on my part. PROOFREAD YOUR LISTS BEFORE SENDING THEM. Any list with the same song mentioned twice will be not be counted.
Feel free to post in this thread as well that you have PM'd me, if for no other reason than to bump this back up for others who may want to participate who may not have seen the thread yet.
This ranking engine link below works great. You can input all of the songs, and then you pick your favorite of every 1 on 1 matchup and then it spits out your list. If you feel I am missing a song (like some obscure demo or live cut), feel free to PM me and I will add it to the list before, although I cannot imagine anything not listed below having a realistic shot at the top 40.
https://rankingengine.pubmeeple.com/
Please use the below list of songs, no others. Listing anything else will invalidate your list from being used.
Achilles Last Stand
All My Love
Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
Baby Come On Home
Black Country Woman
Black Dog
Black Mountain Side (LZ1 version or the Coda version with White Summer as the intro will count as the same)
Bonzo's Montreux
Boogie with Stu
Bring It On Home
Bron-Y-Aur Stomp
Bron-Yr-Aur
Candy Store Rock
Carouselambra
Celebration Day
Communication Breakdown
Custard Pie
Dancing Days
Darlene
Dazed and Confused
Down by the Seaside
D'yer Mak'er
Fool in the Rain
For Your Life
Four Sticks
Friends
Gallows Pole
Going to California
Good Times Bad Times
Hats off to (Roy) Harper
Heartbreaker
Hey, Hey, What Can I Do
Hot Dog
Hots On for Nowhere
Houses of the Holy
How Many More Times
I Can't Quit You Baby
I'm Gonna Crawl
Immigrant Song
In My Time of Dying
In the Evening
In the Light
Kashmir
Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman)
Misty Mountain Hop
Moby Dick
Night Flight
No Quarter
Nobody's Fault But Mine
Out on the Tiles
Over the Hills and Far Away
Ozone Baby
Poor Tom
Ramble On
Rock and Roll
Royal Orleans
Sick Again
Since I've Been Loving You
South Bound Saurez
Stairway to Heaven
Tangerine
Tea for One
Ten Years Gone
Thank You
That's the Way
The Battle of Evermore
The Crunge
The Lemon Song
The Ocean
The Rain Song
The Rover
The Song Remains the Same
The Wanton Song
Trampled Under Foot
Travelling Riverside Blues
Walter's Walk
Wearing and Tearing
We're Gonna Groove
What Is and What Should Never Be
When the Levee Breaks
Whole Lotta Love
You Shook Me
Your Time Is Gonna Come
Top 40:
40 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman)
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do
38 Nobody's Fault But Mine
37 Carouselambra
35 (t) All My Love
35 (t) Fool in the Rain
34 In the Light
32 (t) Dancing Days
32 (t) How Many More Times
31 Thank You
30 The Ocean
29 Communication Breakdown
28 Houses of the Holy
27 Misty Mountain Hop
26 Going to California
25 Trampled Under Foot
24 The Rover
23 In My Time of Dying
22 The Battle of Evermore
21 What Is and What Should Never Be
20 Heartbreaker
19 Since I've Been Loving You
18 Ramble On
17 Over the Hills and Far Away
16 In the Evening
15 Ten Years Gone
14 The Song Remains the Same
13 Good Times Bad Times
12 Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
11 Whole Lotta Love
10 Black Dog
09 Rock and Roll
08 Dazed and Confused
07 The Rain Song
06 No Quarter
05 When the Levee Breaks
04 Immigrant Song
03 Achilles Last Stand
02 Kashmir
01 Stairway to Heaven
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Thought I was done with these based on potential bands that were being discussed, but I might have to partake in this one.
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At last! One of these I can participate in! I'll run the numbers and get the list to you.
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Nice!!!!!
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I'll be in.
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Well of course *I'm* in.
Guess it's time to do my annual LZ discography binge.
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I think I could rank about half the songs off the top of my head but it looks like I have time for a discography run through.
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I'll be in.
Likewise :tup
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While I know their music, I'm not a huge LZ fan. I'll try to listen to their discography again and see if I can come up with a list.
My local classic rock radio station does a top 1043 classic rock songs every year. They just finished the playlist over the weekend and Stairway won for the 22nd year in a row, We'll see if the result is different here :corn
https://q1043.iheart.com/featured/top-1043-songs-of-all-time/
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I might see how many of these I’m familiar enough with to rank. Never really got into LZ, but their songs are ubiquitous enough that I could probably rank 40. I at least know what my number 1 would be, and maybe my top 5 or so.
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Cool! I'm totally down for this.
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Ooh, doing this one.
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Sent
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I took a first pass through the songs, making eliminations, and I cut it down to.....40!
I have a handful of favorites, but I am definitely going to need the ranker.
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Okay, my list is done and entered. I always like to get it done and entered right away, that way the results from others as I enter them do not subconsciously affect my order.
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LZ is probably the #1 band in my 'Retired Favorites' category. Listed to them as much as any artist in high school,college and beyond, enjoyed pretty much all their material. Yet have since expanded my musical horizons and filed them away, and have not made any effort to listen to them in years. Been listening to a few tunes that I am not as familiar with to help with the ranking, and it is like putting on an old, worn-out pair of slippers: just as familiar as they always were.
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This will take me a few days, I got into Zep a little bit backward as my generation was into 80s metal and I only knew LZ as that band that had Black Dog and Stairway in the radio and older kids talking about them. Not really my sound but I've grown to appreciate a lot of their stuff.
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I took a first pass through the songs, making eliminations, and I cut it down to.....40!
Same.
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All OVER this. Usually when I do these I know what number 1 will be and the trouble is usually around 5 through 20. Here, all 40 will be a problem. I LOVE Led Zeppelin. I have about five songs that could legit be number one.
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Not going to join, as I don’t know all tunes, but looking at that full list of songs has me surprised that they don’t have *that* many songs.
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Not going to join, as I don’t know all tunes, but looking at that full list of songs has me surprised that they don’t have *that* many songs.
Eight studio albums (although one was a double) plus Coda and just a few odd singles/leftovers. I weeded it down to 54 that I put into the ranking engine, but even with that, I have at least a couple that have no hope.
And I know for sure what my #1 song will be.
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I'm actually not sure what my #1 is. I think I know though.
Pretty sure I can do a Top 10 and a 31-40. But 11-30 are all pretty much equal to me.
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I am pretty much assuming that Hot Dog will be number 1 for most, so it's just a matter of what wins the fight for 2nd place.
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I am pretty much assuming that Hot Dog will be number 1 for most, so it's just a matter of what wins the fight for 2nd place.
Yeah, well after Hot Dog, all of the other songs will be playing...
...ketchup!
I am so sorry.
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I am pretty much assuming that Hot Dog will be number 1 for most, so it's just a matter of what wins the fight for 2nd place.
Yeah, well after Hot Dog, all of the other songs will be playing...
...ketchup!
I am so sorry.
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HAHAHA
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Not going to join, as I don’t know all tunes, but looking at that full list of songs has me surprised that they don’t have *that* many songs.
Eight studio albums (although one was a double) plus Coda and just a few odd singles/leftovers. I weeded it down to 54 that I put into the ranking engine, but even with that, I have at least a couple that have no hope.
And I know for sure what my #1 song will be.
Other than Physical Graffiti and Zeppelin III, no album has more than 9 tracks on it.
And yeah, my #1 LZ song hasn't changed in like 20 years.
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I'm going to work on this today..
Edit: Finished my list. I'm gonna Stu* on it for 24 hours. Stats tomorrow.
* See what I did there? ;D
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I'm going to work on this today..
Edit: Finished my list. I'm gonna Stu* on it for 24 hours. Stats tomorrow.
* See what I did there? ;D
How many more times are you going to use awful Dad-puns?
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I'm going to work on this today..
Edit: Finished my list. I'm gonna Stu* on it for 24 hours. Stats tomorrow.
* See what I did there? ;D
How many more times are you going to use awful Dad-puns?
Hey hey what can I do?
I can’t quit it.
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I can’t quit it you babe.
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List sent—super pumped for this one!
While bands like Queen and the Beatles have enjoyed sustained critical praise throughout the past few decades, I tend to view Zeppelin as a band whose star has faded a bit, and fittingly so.
Sure, Page and Bonham Jr. could bounce around the country every couple of years with a young hotshot singer (a la Queen), sell boatloads of tickets and keep the 'brand' alive, but Plant, the distinguished gentleman that he is, has consistently maintained that Zeppelin is 'retired.'
Those who were there (I was not), and those of us who have fallen in love with Zeppelin after the fact are all too aware of just how mighty they were at their peak. That said, I am happy that the band's legend remains shrouded, lying in wait only for those willing to dig a little deeper.
For that reason, I 'hope' that there will never be a feature-length biopic or white-washed mini-series. My 14-year-old knows all about Queen and the Beatles, but he couldn't name you a single Zeppelin song, and there's a part of me that thinks it makes the band all that more cool.
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List sent—super pumped for this one!
While bands like Queen and the Beatles have enjoyed sustained critical praise throughout the past few decades, I tend to view Zeppelin as a band whose star has faded a bit, and fittingly so.
Sure, Page and Bonham Jr. could bounce around the country every couple of years with a young hotshot singer (a la Queen), sell boatloads of tickets and keep the 'brand' alive, but Plant, the distinguished gentleman that he is, has consistently maintained that Zeppelin is 'retired.'
Those who were there (I was not), and those of us who have fallen in love with Zeppelin after the fact are all too aware of just how mighty they were at their peak. That said, I am happy that the band's legend remains shrouded, lying in wait only for those willing to dig a little deeper.
For that reason, I 'hope' that there will never be a feature-length biopic or white-washed mini-series. My 14-year-old knows all about Queen and the Beatles, but he couldn't name you a single Zeppelin song, and there's a part of me that thinks it makes the band all that more cool.
That was all Page. He LIKED the mystery. He was the one that said "no singles!". He was the one that sort of maintained the distance, though Plant has done pretty well on that front as well; listen to his interviews with either Howard Stern or Dan Rather - both excellent interviewers - and he has an uncanny knack of answering the question - with detail - without actually answering the question. He's a very smart, savvy guy.
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List sent—super pumped for this one!
While bands like Queen and the Beatles have enjoyed sustained critical praise throughout the past few decades, I tend to view Zeppelin as a band whose star has faded a bit, and fittingly so.
Sure, Page and Bonham Jr. could bounce around the country every couple of years with a young hotshot singer (a la Queen), sell boatloads of tickets and keep the 'brand' alive, but Plant, the distinguished gentleman that he is, has consistently maintained that Zeppelin is 'retired.'
Those who were there (I was not), and those of us who have fallen in love with Zeppelin after the fact are all too aware of just how mighty they were at their peak. That said, I am happy that the band's legend remains shrouded, lying in wait only for those willing to dig a little deeper.
For that reason, I 'hope' that there will never be a feature-length biopic or white-washed mini-series. My 14-year-old knows all about Queen and the Beatles, but he couldn't name you a single Zeppelin song, and there's a part of me that thinks it makes the band all that more cool.
That was all Page. He LIKED the mystery. He was the one that said "no singles!". He was the one that sort of maintained the distance, though Plant has done pretty well on that front as well; listen to his interviews with either Howard Stern or Dan Rather - both excellent interviewers - and he has an uncanny knack of answering the question - with detail - without actually answering the question. He's a very smart, savvy guy.
Page, for sure. Although, in recent years, if Page had his druthers, the band would have done a tour (or three), so I will give a nod to Plant for recognizing that (other than Celebration Day) Led Zeppelin is best remembered for what they were, as opposed to a pale imitation.
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I just did my first grouping of songs into a top/middle/bottom scale. Curiously, I wanted to know see how that grouping fit by album as well, so I (off the top of my head) populated the list with the albums. I was pleasantly surprised I only had one brain-fart (I put In The Evening as Physical Graffiti:facepalm:), and also for the life of me couldn't remember which album Travelling Riverside Blues was from :lol.
Back in my younger days, I could rhyme off their entire discography, in order of the tracklisting. I might just have to give that a try as well.
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I don’t think I’ll be able to get to 40. That would require a deeper dive than I’m prepared to give LZ at the moment.
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Didn't spend a ton of time on list but it shook out pretty easily. Did not even use the Ranker.
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Fascinating. Never used the ranking engine. Just did, and I'm curious to see how that stacks up against how I'll truly rank them.
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I'm going to work on this today..
Edit: Finished my list. I'm gonna Stu* on it for 24 hours. Stats tomorrow.
* See what I did there? ;D
How many more times are you going to use awful Dad-puns?
Well-played, sir.
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I'm going to work on this today..
Edit: Finished my list. I'm gonna Stu* on it for 24 hours. Stats tomorrow.
* See what I did there? ;D
How many more times are you going to use awful Dad-puns?
Well-played, sir.
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Sent!!!
Album Breakdown..
LZ I..... 3
LZ II.... 5
LZ III... 3
LZ IV.. 4
Houses Of The Holy... 7
Physical Graffiti.... 9
Presence.... 4
In Through The Out Door... 4
Coda... 1
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Sent!!!
Album Breakdown..
LZ I..... 2
LZ II.... 6
LZ III... 3
LZ IV.. 4
Houses Of The Holy... 7
Physical Graffiti.... 9
Presence.... 4
In Through The Out Door... 4
Coda... 1
You have three from the first album (which is still not enough).
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You're right. I had attributed one song to LZII by accident. I thought LZ II looked too high.
I also left off TWO classic staples.
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Yep, I always expect a bit of strangeness with your lists. :P
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You're right. I had attributed one song to LZII by accident. I thought LZ II looked too high.
I also left off TWO classic staples.
I'm more intrigued by FOUR from Presence. I'll have 2 or 3, and the other 4 won't be anywhere near in the running. And ONLY four from the untitled 4th album is an eyebrow raiser as well. That said, I think Zep is exactly the sort of band that's going to breed this sort of diversity in lists.
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Yep, I always expect a bit of strangeness with your lists. :P
You called?
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First pass ...
I - 5
II - 7
III - 8
IV - 5 (probably gonna re-rank, and this will finish with 6)
HOTH - 5
PG - 6
Presence - 1 (maybe 2)
ITTOD - 1
Coda - 1
Box Set - 1
I think Tim having 4 from ITTOD is a hotter take than his Presence choices. He slams the keyboard era of Rush, but then takes over 1/2 the songs from a very keyboard-heavy Zeppelin album. Like :wtf:
7 from HOTH is also a hot take. Man those three middle songs are absolute duds, imo. D'yer Mak'er being one of two Zeppelin songs I actively dislike.
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Houses of the Holy has three of my top 6 songs. :coolio :coolio
And I am ready to throw hands with anyone who does not worship at the feet of The Rain Song. :biggrin: :biggrin:
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Fascinating. Never used the ranking engine. Just did, and I'm curious to see how that stacks up against how I'll truly rank them.
I've used the ranking engine a few times for these lists and it's crazy how different the list comes out when you compare song to song one pair at a time.
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Houses of the Holy has three of my top 6 songs. :coolio :coolio
And I am ready to throw hands with anyone who does not worship at the feet of The Rain Song. :biggrin: :biggrin:
I'll be your wingman. Barely missed my top 10 though.
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Houses of the Holy has three of my top 6 songs. :coolio :coolio
And I am ready to throw hands with anyone who does not worship at the feet of The Rain Song. :biggrin: :biggrin:
Funny you mentioned The Rain Song, I really enjoyed that one as I was listening yesterday. Great tune.
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I know it's purely based on my experiences but I would find it wild if anyone DOESN'T have side A of Led Zeppelin I on their list! I feel like those 4 songs cover everything that Led Zeppelin were, and went on to be. You've got the rocker, the ballad, the sex song and the experimental one that could be jammed live.
When I was 9 or 10 my older brother found Led Zeppelin I in my Dad's record collection and fell in love. I have fond memories of sitting at the dining room table with my brother, drawing Warhammer characters and listening to Led Zep I, side A, on repeat.
That was a hugely influential time for me, as he was also playing The Black Album on repeat as well.
Those 4 songs will all end up in my top 10, possibly top 5. To be honest the whole of Led Zeppelin I will likely make my top 20.
Anyway, I love Led Zeppelin I :hefdaddy
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I know it's purely based on my experiences but I would find it wild if anyone DOESN'T have side A of Led Zeppelin I on their list! I feel like those 4 songs cover everything that Led Zeppelin were, and went on to be. You've got the rocker, the ballad, the sex song and the experimental one that could be jammed live.
When I was 9 or 10 my older brother found Led Zeppelin I in my Dad's record collection and fell in love. I have fond memories of sitting at the dining room table with my brother, drawing Warhammer characters and listening to Led Zep I, side A, on repeat.
That was a hugely influential time for me, as he was also playing The Black Album on repeat as well.
Those 4 songs will all end up in my top 10, possibly top 5. To be honest the whole of Led Zeppelin I will likely make my top 20.
Anyway, I love Led Zeppelin I :hefdaddy
Well, color yourself "wild". One of them ranks pretty low for me in the entirety of their discog. And another one *just* made my Top 40 cut.
:dunno:
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I know it's purely based on my experiences but I would find it wild if anyone DOESN'T have side A of Led Zeppelin I on their list! I feel like those 4 songs cover everything that Led Zeppelin were, and went on to be. You've got the rocker, the ballad, the sex song and the experimental one that could be jammed live.
When I was 9 or 10 my older brother found Led Zeppelin I in my Dad's record collection and fell in love. I have fond memories of sitting at the dining room table with my brother, drawing Warhammer characters and listening to Led Zep I, side A, on repeat.
That was a hugely influential time for me, as he was also playing The Black Album on repeat as well.
Those 4 songs will all end up in my top 10, possibly top 5. To be honest the whole of Led Zeppelin I will likely make my top 20.
Anyway, I love Led Zeppelin I :hefdaddy
Well, color yourself "wild". One of them ranks pretty low for me in the entirety of their discog. And another one *just* made my Top 40 cut.
:dunno:
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I know it's purely based on my experiences but I would find it wild if anyone DOESN'T have side A of Led Zeppelin I on their list! I feel like those 4 songs cover everything that Led Zeppelin were, and went on to be. You've got the rocker, the ballad, the sex song and the experimental one that could be jammed live.
When I was 9 or 10 my older brother found Led Zeppelin I in my Dad's record collection and fell in love. I have fond memories of sitting at the dining room table with my brother, drawing Warhammer characters and listening to Led Zep I, side A, on repeat.
That was a hugely influential time for me, as he was also playing The Black Album on repeat as well.
Those 4 songs will all end up in my top 10, possibly top 5. To be honest the whole of Led Zeppelin I will likely make my top 20.
Anyway, I love Led Zeppelin I :hefdaddy
I mean, I completely understand where you are coming from, but if I was ranking the catalog, I’d probably place 1 at or near the bottom. It’s a great album, but nowhere close to what I consider the band’s peak.
It might be the blueprint, but I think of it as more of a glimpse into the band’s potential.
I think I have one song total off of 1 in my top 40... different strokes I suppose.
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Oh yea, I totally understand that my views are based on that formative experience. It could've just have easily been another LZ album my bro picked out abd I'd be here declaring that album was the best.
I can't deny how those songs make me feel though, and nostalgia is a huge part. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You may be my #1 pick, and I'm prepared to be the only one.
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Oh yea, I totally understand that my views are based on that formative experience. It could've just have easily been another LZ album my bro picked out abd I'd be here declaring that album was the best.
I can't deny how those songs make me feel though, and nostalgia is a huge part. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You may be my #1 pick, and I'm prepared to be the only one.
Given the singers you've never heard of until recently, I am actually a little surprised that you have heard of Led Zeppelin. :lol
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I know it's purely based on my experiences but I would find it wild if anyone DOESN'T have side A of Led Zeppelin I on their list!
Well, color yourself "wild". One of them ranks pretty low for me in the entirety of their discog. And another one *just* made my Top 40 cut.
:dunno:
Yeah, two songs made it and two weren't even considered.
When I read the post earlier today, I had in my head Luke was talking about LZ IV.
Houses of the Holy has three of my top 6 songs. :coolio :coolio
And I am ready to throw hands with anyone who does not worship at the feet of The Rain Song. :biggrin: :biggrin:
Houses has two in my Top 10.
And Rain Song sure as hell ain't one of them. It didn't even make my list.
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Which validates it’s greatness.
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Apparently. :lol
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I'm going to try and contribute to this. But I need to refamiliarize myself with some of the deeper cuts from Presence and ITTOD....maybe even a few from PG. Everything else I know like the back of my hand, so this shouldn't be too hard.
It funny to hear myself say that I need to go back to some of the stuff from PG, because I often proclaim that it's my favorite Zeppelin album. But that's mostly because it contains what I think is by far their strongest material. But even I admit that it's an album and a half of fantastic material, with a bit of filler to push it into a full double album.
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Just starting to put together my list. Have to admit I am loving doing a relisten as I haven't given Led Zep a proper go for a long time...
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I know it's purely based on my experiences but I would find it wild if anyone DOESN'T have side A of Led Zeppelin I on their list! I feel like those 4 songs cover everything that Led Zeppelin were, and went on to be. You've got the rocker, the ballad, the sex song and the experimental one that could be jammed live.
When I was 9 or 10 my older brother found Led Zeppelin I in my Dad's record collection and fell in love. I have fond memories of sitting at the dining room table with my brother, drawing Warhammer characters and listening to Led Zep I, side A, on repeat.
That was a hugely influential time for me, as he was also playing The Black Album on repeat as well.
Those 4 songs will all end up in my top 10, possibly top 5. To be honest the whole of Led Zeppelin I will likely make my top 20.
Anyway, I love Led Zeppelin I :hefdaddy
Mine is a wholly different experience, but that's the wonder of a band like Zeppelin for me.
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I know it's purely based on my experiences but I would find it wild if anyone DOESN'T have side A of Led Zeppelin I on their list! I feel like those 4 songs cover everything that Led Zeppelin were, and went on to be. You've got the rocker, the ballad, the sex song and the experimental one that could be jammed live.
When I was 9 or 10 my older brother found Led Zeppelin I in my Dad's record collection and fell in love. I have fond memories of sitting at the dining room table with my brother, drawing Warhammer characters and listening to Led Zep I, side A, on repeat.
That was a hugely influential time for me, as he was also playing The Black Album on repeat as well.
Those 4 songs will all end up in my top 10, possibly top 5. To be honest the whole of Led Zeppelin I will likely make my top 20.
Anyway, I love Led Zeppelin I :hefdaddy
Mine is a wholly different experience, but that's the wonder of a band like Zeppelin for me.
Agreed!
Regardless of age or point of entry, I have yet to find a consistent thread running through Led Zeppelin fans.
I've probably played with fifty musicians throughout the years in various bands and projects, and the vast majority of them were Zeppelin fans.
In my admittedly myopic experience, there is no consistent 'favorite' album or period—I know a guy who swears In Through the Out Door is the band's peak, I've heard many a case for III or Presence, and I will be the first to tell you that Physical Graffiti is the best double album of the '70s.
Zeppelin might not be everyone's cup of tea, but the band certainly can't be faulted for making the same record twice (even I and II have different feels as far as I'm concerned).
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I guess I'm prepared to have my heart broken with this list :lol
I'm still working out my ranking. I could do a top 10 straight off and a top 20 with a little work. It's ranking 20-40 I'm needing to revist the catalogue for.
My ranking, like I assume (probably wrongfully) most others, will heavily feature from albums 1-6, with a few from the last 3 albums.
But just to revist what I said before about tracks 1-4 from the debut, for those who don't rate them all that highly, I assume it's Good Times Bad Times and Dazed and Confused that make the cut? I suppose I understand You Shook Me not getting the ratings, but Babe I'm Gonna Leave You is just beautiful! Unless it's Dazed and Confused that you guys feel is overrated? I know it was a song that became it's own beast, when played live.
I'm getting into LithoJazzoSphere overthinking territory here :lol
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I guess I'm prepared to have my heart broken with this list :lol
I'm still working out my ranking. I could do a top 10 straight off and a top 20 with a little work. It's ranking 20-40 I'm needing to revist the catalogue for.
My ranking, like I assume (probably wrongfully) most others, will heavily feature from albums 1-6, with a few from the last 3 albums.
But just to revist what I said before about tracks 1-4 from the debut, for those who don't rate them all that highly, I assume it's Good Times Bad Times and Dazed and Confused that make the cut? I suppose I understand You Shook Me not getting the ratings, but Babe I'm Gonna Leave You is just beautiful! Unless it's Dazed and Confused that you guys feel is overrated? I know it was a song that became it's own beast, when played live.
I'm getting into LithoJazzoSphere overthinking territory here :lol
I mean, we're talking about Zeppelin, right? It's all magic as far as I'm concerned.
It borderline cracks me up how personal people take these countdowns.
As far as I'm concerned, there's little in the Zeppelin catalog that I don't consider essential listening.
But, and it's a big but, every list has to have a beginning and an end. With some bands, the distance between 'least' and 'most' is a mile wide.
With Zeppelin, however, I might have 40 songs between "Dazed and Confused" and "Ten Years Gone," but I still love both songs, you know?
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“Everyone I know has a big but…”
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I guess I'm prepared to have my heart broken with this list :lol
I'm still working out my ranking. I could do a top 10 straight off and a top 20 with a little work. It's ranking 20-40 I'm needing to revist the catalogue for.
My ranking, like I assume (probably wrongfully) most others, will heavily feature from albums 1-6, with a few from the last 3 albums.
But just to revist what I said before about tracks 1-4 from the debut, for those who don't rate them all that highly, I assume it's Good Times Bad Times and Dazed and Confused that make the cut? I suppose I understand You Shook Me not getting the ratings, but Babe I'm Gonna Leave You is just beautiful! Unless it's Dazed and Confused that you guys feel is overrated? I know it was a song that became it's own beast, when played live.
I'm getting into LithoJazzoSphere overthinking territory here :lol
You'll just have to stay tuned. No showing anyone your cards yet!
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Prepare to be told to wash your ears out :lol
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I guess I'm prepared to have my heart broken with this list :lol
I'm still working out my ranking. I could do a top 10 straight off and a top 20 with a little work. It's ranking 20-40 I'm needing to revist the catalogue for.
My ranking, like I assume (probably wrongfully) most others, will heavily feature from albums 1-6, with a few from the last 3 albums.
But just to revist what I said before about tracks 1-4 from the debut, for those who don't rate them all that highly, I assume it's Good Times Bad Times and Dazed and Confused that make the cut? I suppose I understand You Shook Me not getting the ratings, but Babe I'm Gonna Leave You is just beautiful! Unless it's Dazed and Confused that you guys feel is overrated? I know it was a song that became it's own beast, when played live.
I'm getting into LithoJazzoSphere overthinking territory here :lol
I mean, we're talking about Zeppelin, right? It's all magic as far as I'm concerned.
It borderline cracks me up how personal people take these countdowns.
As far as I'm concerned, there's little in the Zeppelin catalog that I don't consider essential listening.
But, and it's a big but, every list has to have a beginning and an end. With some bands, the distance between 'least' and 'most' is a mile wide.
With Zeppelin, however, I might have 40 songs between "Dazed and Confused" and "Ten Years Gone," but I still love both songs, you know?
Ten Years Gone will most certainly be a top three Zeppelin song for me.
But this is a good conversation; I was actually going to ask Kev's leave for everyone to post their WORST Zeppelin song before. There are 83 songs in the list. I'm not saying that 80 could also be number 1, but number 80 could easily be 40 as well. The level of quality across their catalogue is INSANE. I can really only name one song - maybe two - that I really well and truly don't care if I ever hear again.
EDIT: One other thing; it must be said that Zeppelin was and always will be an ALBUM band. Sure, their songs are on the radio and they get individualized all the time, but there's something to be said about sitting down and absorbing a Zeppelin RECORD. I think only Pink Floyd rivals them in this way. "Thank You" makes a lot of sense as the end of side one, there's a quick breather, then the slinky, oily blues of Heartbreaker comes at you.
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Ten Years Gone is a top 10 song for me, I adore it.
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To Stads' point, there are only 2 songs that I actively dislike, probably another dozen or so that I'm 'meh' over, but the rest could easily finish in a 30-way tie for 40th place.
Also, I can't really imagine listening to LZ any other way than a full album at a time. Sadly, I only got 'in' to them when CDs were more becoming ubiquitous than records, so I have nothing of theirs on vinyl.
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To Stads' point, there are only 2 songs that I actively dislike, probably another dozen or so that I'm 'meh' over, but the rest could easily finish in a 30-way tie for 40th place.
Also, I can't really imagine listening to LZ any other way than a full album at a time. Sadly, I only got 'in' to them when CDs were more becoming ubiquitous than records, so I have nothing of theirs on vinyl.
Dude, college. I know it's a cliche at this point, but do you know how many times I made out to a Zeppelin album? Has to be like, three or maybe even four times. ;) :) :) :)
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To Stads' point, there are only 2 songs that I actively dislike, probably another dozen or so that I'm 'meh' over, but the rest could easily finish in a 30-way tie for 40th place.
Also, I can't really imagine listening to LZ any other way than a full album at a time. Sadly, I only got 'in' to them when CDs were more becoming ubiquitous than records, so I have nothing of theirs on vinyl.
Dude, college. I know it's a cliche at this point, but do you know how many times I made out to a Zeppelin album? Has to be like, three or maybe even four times. ;) :) :) :)
I had them all on vinyl and didn't re-buy all of them on CD when I trashed my vinyl. And there's a pretty wide quality gap between the top of the list and the bottom 20ish songs. There's one song that I'm guessing will make the list that I actively despise.
I was never much of a fan of having music playing during amorous activities. I once had a girlfriend put on The Trees by Rush while we were getting busy. I had to very delicately stop and tell her it was way too distracting trying to...ummm...keep up with the odd time signatures. :facepalm:
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Their worst: there are very few from their original discography that are OK, and fewer that are 'meh' to me. The rest I could listen to all day.
But....if anyone lists "Hats Off to (Roy) Harper" in their Top 40, I'd be shocked. The ONLY song in their original discography (including 'Coda') that I hate and do not include on my CDr versions. A real shame that 'Hey Hey What Can I Do' wasn't used in its place.
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Right, I've settled on a top 50. Need to give the list a listen through then run it through the ranker.
I'm just happy to be a part of one these, the others have looked fun.
I'm hoping we can do a Metallica one at some point.
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Oh boy, a Metallica countdown would be super interesting. I guarantee that 7 or 8 of my top 10 would be missing from a ton of lists… I freaking adore “Hero of the Day” and “Mama Said” :metal
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Ten Years Gone wasn't quite top 10 for me, but it was pretty darn close. :biggrin:
As for worst LZ song, if we can all just agree on Hats Off to (Roy) Harper, that will be an easy convo and we can move on. :lol
Bill/Stadler, your post about LZ's albums was spot-on. They have very few duds on their studio albums (I through In Through the Out Door), IMO. Even most of the songs I am ambivalent about, like a few on III or the majority of Presence, are still solid tunes for the most part.
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I've never read a Zeppelin biography but I'm guessing some of you here have. Has anyone in the band ever revealed the thinking behind leaving Houses of the Holy and The Rover off the Houses of the Holy album (obviously they'd later surface on the odds and sods Physical Graffiti album)? I'm having a hard time imagining a conversation that concluded with "The Rover's a decent enough tune but it's gotta make way for The Crunge".
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But....if anyone lists "Hats Off to (Roy) Harper" in their Top 40, I'd be shocked. The ONLY song in their original discography (including 'Coda') that I hate and do not include on my CDr versions. A real shame that 'Hey Hey What Can I Do' wasn't used in its place.
I’ll just copy what I stated in rating LZ III as the #13 album from my all-time Top 50 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=29431.105) … “If not for the final track (which is the only Zeppelin song that I truly dislike), this would be in my top 3. Replace it with Hey Hey What Can I Do - which until 1990’s box set, was only found on the B-side of The Immigrant Side’s 45 (if you’re ??? with what I’m saying, go look it up kids), and it might even be my #1 album.”
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I can dig that you love LZ III. It's special to you and you stand by it. It's probably the least decorated of their first half of their career.
This comparison will likely not mean anything to you, but I rate UFO's No Heavy Petting as my favorite UFO album, and it's definitely the most overlooked in the original Michael Schenker 5 album run.
So..I get you.
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I can dig that you love LZ III. It's special to you and you stand by it. It's probably the least decorated of their first half of their career.
This comparison will likely not mean anything to you, but I rate UFO's No Heavy Petting as my favorite UFO album, and it's definitely the most overlooked in the original Michael Schenker 5 album run.
So..I get you.
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Oh boy, a Metallica countdown would be super interesting. I guarantee that 7 or 8 of my top 10 would be missing from a ton of lists… I freaking adore “Hero of the Day” and “Mama Said” :metal
Both great.
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Both not! ;D
I think Kev said he had no interest in doing a Metallica countdown.
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I've never read a Zeppelin biography but I'm guessing some of you here have. Has anyone in the band ever revealed the thinking behind leaving Houses of the Holy and The Rover off the Houses of the Holy album (obviously they'd later surface on the odds and sods Physical Graffiti album)? I'm having a hard time imagining a conversation that concluded with "The Rover's a decent enough tune but it's gotta make way for The Crunge".
From Wikipedia regarding The Rover: "Writing for the song began in 1970 at Bron-Yr-Aur [the sessions for LZIII]. . . . Initially an acoustic piece, it took on a hard rock arrangement when recorded at Stargroves during the sessions for the Houses of the Holy album in 1972. The song was not included on the album, but after Jimmy Page added several guitar overdubs in 1974, it was added to Led Zeppelin's following album, Physical Graffiti." No real "why" offered. Maybe they didn't think much of it until the overdubs were added?
Regarding HOTH: "[T]hey decided the song did not fit well with the other album material, so it was moved to the subsequent release." "It was left off that album because of its similarity to other tracks such as 'Dancing Days,' which were felt to be better."
The cited sources are books by Martin Popoff and Dave Lewis (particularly the latter).
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That makes sense. And I am guessing they were in the headspace where they wanted to put something funky on the Houses album, since it was pretty different for them. The Crunge is a bit of a thud despite the rad bass line, but I get the thought of putting a different kind of song on there than another rocker.
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The Crunge isn’t even the worst song on the album. Or the 2nd worst.
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Rain Song?
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Rain Song?
The Rain Song is a sexy languid jam of a tune. It'll feature high on my list.
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Rain Song?
If we’re playing Jeopardy, the question is “what’s the best song from Houses of the Holy”, Alex.
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Rain Song?
If we’re playing Jeopardy, the question is “what’s the best song from Houses of the Holy”, Alex.
Seriously! The Rain Song and No Quarter are constantly battling for the best from that album to me.
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Yeah, that's a massive WTF from me re The Rain Song. There may not be another Zeppeling song that transports me to just... I don't know where. Just somewhere else. It's incredible.
But you know, I've been going through my bottom 40 or 50 and contrary to many of you, I think Led Zeppelin wrote a huge amount of dross. I don't like using that word since I'm a great believer in music you like and music you don't like but good grief, a lot of it goes nowhere and sounds the same. Really looking forward to the discussion since no doubt many of those tracks will make the collective top 40. Your insights may well help me approach some of those tunes from a different angle.
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Both not! ;D
I think Kev said he had no interest in doing a Metallica countdown.
Thanks for volunteering to host the Metallica one dude, I'll send my list later :tup
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Yeah, that's a massive WTF from me re The Rain Song. There may not be another Zeppeling song that transports me to just... I don't know where. Just somewhere else. It's incredible.
But you know, I've been going through my bottom 40 or 50 and contrary to many of you, I think Led Zeppelin wrote a huge amount of dross. I don't like using that word since I'm a great believer in music you like and music you don't like but good grief, a lot of it goes nowhere and sounds the same. Really looking forward to the discussion since no doubt many of those tracks will make the collective top 40. Your insights may well help me approach some of those tunes from a different angle.
We’re here to serve.
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I think Kev said he had no interest in doing a Metallica countdown.
I wouldn't say I have no interest, but they just aren't high on the list of ones I would want to do.
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I think Kev said he had no interest in doing a Metallica countdown.
I wouldn't say I have no interest, but they just aren't high on the list of ones I would want to do.
OK. All is appreciated.
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Yeah, that's a massive WTF from me re The Rain Song. There may not be another Zeppeling song that transports me to just... I don't know where. Just somewhere else. It's incredible.
I'm just busting balls with The Rain Song, really. It didn't make my list, but just as easily could've booted a couple of songs out at the end of my list. If this was a Top 45 it's definitely made it.
But I recognize that it has a quality about it that if someone rated it in their Top 5 I wouldn't even shake my head.
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Rain Song?
The Rain Song is a sexy languid jam of a tune. It'll feature high on my list.
Haha, I like that description. It's high on my list, too.
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I've never read a Zeppelin biography but I'm guessing some of you here have. Has anyone in the band ever revealed the thinking behind leaving Houses of the Holy and The Rover off the Houses of the Holy album (obviously they'd later surface on the odds and sods Physical Graffiti album)? I'm having a hard time imagining a conversation that concluded with "The Rover's a decent enough tune but it's gotta make way for The Crunge".
I think PG answered this, but having read several biographies of the band, as well as Plant and Page individually, I think it was about the moment. There was a real contrast between the first four records, and the darker, blues-based material, and the material on HOTH. Even the heavier stuff - The Rain Song, No Quarter, and The Song Remains The Same - had an optimism and a brightness to them that wasn't really there before. I know Plant LOVED D'yer M'aker and wanted it to be a single (even though the band didn't really do the "singles" thing). It - and The Crunge, and to a lesser extent, The Ocean, with it's break in the middle - were all throw-backs to early 50's and 60's music. These (songs from the 50's and 60's, as well as The Crunge) were songs that got played live a lot, as part of the extended jams on songs like Dazed and Confused and Whole Lotta Love. There's supposedly a number of 50s covers that the band did around this time that were never released.
I wrote in the singer thread about the impact of Elvis Presley on rock and roll, and Led Zeppelin was HEAVILY influenced by Elvis. Much of the guitar work on HOTH (and several later albums, like Physical Graffiti and ITTOD) was blatantly based on Scotty Moore's work with Elvis. The Crunge was more James Brown than Elvis ("where's that confounded bridge" was a direct James Brown shout out) but it's all part of the nostalgia or channeling, depending on how you look at it.
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Just would like to say....I LOVE The Rover.
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Just would like to say....I LOVE The Rover.
Why am I not surprised!! :lol
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Just would like to say....I LOVE The Rover.
Why am I not surprised!! :lol
Jeez, if we could just join hands.
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Just would like to say....I LOVE The Rover.
Why am I not surprised!! :lol
Jeez, if we could just join hands.
You're incorrigible.
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Is Incorrigible Canadian for fucking right as hell?
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Just would like to say....I LOVE The Rover.
Hey!! We finally hit one! :) :) : )
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As for worst LZ song, if we can all just agree on Hats Off to (Roy) Harper, that will be an easy convo and we can move on. :lol
I'm down for that, but Hot Dog can fuck off as well.
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As for worst LZ song, if we can all just agree on Hats Off to (Roy) Harper, that will be an easy convo and we can move on. :lol
I'm down for that, but Hot Dog can fuck off as well.
Took your love and walked right out the door? :rollin
It's so bad, it's good. Zeppelin Rockabilly! It's only 3 minutes man. The main melody always reminds me of the 70s Almond Joy/Mounds commercials.
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It's so bad, it's good.
That's not a concept to which I can normally relate. If something is bad, it's bad.
For example, I can't watch trash like The Room. It's just awful. It's not "so bad that it's good". It's just BAD.
Perhaps that's a failing on my part.
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As for worst LZ song, if we can all just agree on Hats Off to (Roy) Harper, that will be an easy convo and we can move on. :lol
I'm down for that, but Hot Dog can fuck off as well.
Took your love and walked right out the door? :rollin
It's so bad, it's good. Zeppelin Rockabilly! It's only 3 minutes man. The main melody always reminds me of the 70s Almond Joy/Mounds commercials.
I just listened to Hats Off for the first time in what must be 30+ years. Literally had no recollection. Now I know why. I didn't get past the 1:20 mark. Hot Dog is Bohemian Rhapsody compared to that pile of dung (and I actually think Hot Dog is a fun song).
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I don't think Hat's Off is THAT bad, at least not bad enough to be crowned worst song with little competition. It rated very low in my ranking but there were at least 5 or 6 rated even lower.
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I don't think Hat's Off is THAT bad, at least not bad enough to be crowned worst song with little competition. It rated very low in my ranking but there were at least 5 or 6 rated even lower.
Talk to me.
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I don't think Hat's Off is THAT bad, at least not bad enough to be crowned worst song with little competition. It rated very low in my ranking but there were at least 5 or 6 rated even lower.
Talk to me.
Same. It sorta takes that sludgie blues thing they did on a lot of songs to a massive extreme. I'm not including every song in my ranking (I think I nominated 54 songs for the top 40), but I can't think of a worse song in the catalog.
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It rated very low in my ranking but there were at least 5 or 6 rated even lower.
Impossible.
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It rated very low in my ranking but there were at least 5 or 6 rated even lower.
Impossible.
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Going through the Ranker and some of these are VERY hard to choose. Damn near impossible, really.
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It rated very low in my ranking but there were at least 5 or 6 rated even lower.
Impossible.
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Only as inconceivable as Babe I'm Gonna Leave You not being in everyone's top 10.
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There is virtually no chance of "Babe, I'm Going To Leave You" being in my Top 10. That is more a reflection of the quality of the other songs than the quality of that song; it is, in fact, an excellent piece of work.
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There is virtually no chance of "Babe, I'm Going To Leave You" being in my Top 10.
Same for me but without the "virtually." It's good for what it is, but the main part of the song doesn't do a ton for me, and the "heavy" part doesn't go much of anywhere. I get why people like it a lot, but it's not for me.
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Hot Dog didn't have a chance of making my top 40, but I don't mind it if I am in the right mood. And the bass line is rad as hell.
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7 lists so far (counting mine). I thought I'd have more by now, but I am guessing some are still doing their listens to finalize their lists. :tup :tup
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LET'S GO SLACKERS!!!!!
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Yea I'm still working on mine. I know I've got time to get it in yet, but you'll have it in time :tup
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There is virtually no chance of "Babe, I'm Going To Leave You" being in my Top 10. That is more a reflection of the quality of the other songs than the quality of that song; it is, in fact, an excellent piece of work.
This.
Honestly, "Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You" is probably my second favorite off of the album (right after "Communication Breakdown"), but, I mean, come on, this is Zeppelin we are talking about. There's at least three songs on every record that are in contention for my top song on any given day.
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Still working on my list. Plenty of time yet!
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Ran through the ranker twice. I really hated my first result, so I cleared my head and started over. My second time through gave me something doable.
There are a few between 41-50 that make me wish we were doing a top 50….but I couldn’t think of anything 31-40 that I felt particularly compelled to trade up for, so I decided to just live with it as is.
As with most of these, there might be one or two regrets before it’s done, but just revisiting some of these songs (many of which I haven’t spun in almost a decade) has been a real joy. So really…thank you for doing this!!
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Final album tally:
I - 4
II - 4
III - 5
IV - 6
HOTH - 5
PG - 9
Presence - 4
ITTOD - 2
Coda - 0 from the original album…but 1 of the bonus tracks.
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It's nice to do these things with the classic bands every so often. I had a helluva good time hosting the discography discussion of them a number of years back.
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OK, got my top 20 pretty much locked in, just need to figure out the other 20 and we're good to go.
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Coda - 0 from the original album…but 1 of the bonus tracks.
I had one Coda song rate pretty highly, but I included it in the album totals from which session it was from.
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The only Coda song I ranked is the one that should have ended up on III (you all know the one). I didn't even bother giving that record an updated spin as I never cared for most of it.
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The only Coda song I ranked is the one that should have ended up on III (you all know the one). I didn't even bother giving that record an updated spin as I never cared for most of it.
Seems I actually did list the Coda song as a Coda song. And I have no idea which one you're talking about.
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The only Coda song I ranked is the one that should have ended up on III (you all know the one). I didn't even bother giving that record an updated spin as I never cared for most of it.
Seems I actually did list the Coda song as a Coda song. And I have no idea which one you're talking about.
Well, it’s the song that got a sortof “legend” status in the days of 80s FM radio because it was a fairly difficult song to get your hands on at that time. So for most people the only way to get it was to wait for hours for the DJ to play it after you begged on the request line and then hit record on your tape deck and hope he didn’t talk over the entire intro.
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And if they did, hey, what could you do? ;)
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The only Coda song I ranked is the one that should have ended up on III (you all know the one). I didn't even bother giving that record an updated spin as I never cared for most of it.
Seems I actually did list the Coda song as a Coda song. And I have no idea which one you're talking about.
Well, it’s the song that got a sortof “legend” status in the days of 80s FM radio because it was a fairly difficult song to get your hands on at that time. So for most people the only way to get it was to wait for hours for the DJ to play it after you begged on the request line and then hit record on your tape deck and hope he didn’t talk over the entire intro.
I didn't think that was on Coda though.
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The only Coda song I ranked is the one that should have ended up on III (you all know the one). I didn't even bother giving that record an updated spin as I never cared for most of it.
Seems I actually did list the Coda song as a Coda song. And I have no idea which one you're talking about.
Well, it’s the song that got a sortof “legend” status in the days of 80s FM radio because it was a fairly difficult song to get your hands on at that time. So for most people the only way to get it was to wait for hours for the DJ to play it after you begged on the request line and then hit record on your tape deck and hope he didn’t talk over the entire intro.
I didn't think that was on Coda though.
It’s been one of the bonus tracks for 30+ years
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Yeah, but it wasn't on the original. :P
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Yeah, but it wasn't on the original. :P
Exactly. Never have I ever associated that song as being a Coda release. Box Set or B-side, but never Coda.
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Yeah, but it wasn't on the original. :P
Exactly. Never have I ever associated that song as being a Coda release. Box Set or B-side, but never Coda.
I included it in my LZ III totals. I suppose that's not technically correct, but it is in spirit.
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Yeah, but it wasn't on the original. :P
Exactly. Never have I ever associated that song as being a Coda release. Box Set or B-side, but never Coda.
I included it in my LZ III totals. I suppose that's not technically correct, but it is in spirit.
I almost did too, but then correctly id’d it against the Box Set.
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Doesn't matter how it gets there, as long as it gets there. :)
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Doesn't matter how it gets there, as long as it gets there. :)
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Is that Better Call Saul?
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Is that Better Call Saul?
:facepalm:
Dammit Tim!
:rollin :rollin :rollin
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No, it's I Love Lucy.
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No, it's I Love Lucy.
You must like that show because you used it for your avatar, no?
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List submitted. It was pretty tough after the first 15 or 20, spots 20-40 are pretty interchangeable.
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I know I'm repeating myself, but this is SO FUCKING HARD. I'm about halfway through the Ranker, and I'm listening as I go, and I make a choice, then hear one of those songs an hour later and I'm like "I have to go back and change my answer".
This is me 9 times out of 10: "Wow, this is so good; better than I remember."
This is me 1 times out of 10: "Wow, that sounds like 19xx".
This is me 0 times out of 10: "Wow, I didn't realize how much this sucked."
EDIT: I just came up with this choice: "The Rain Song" or "Stairway To Heaven". It's been on my screen for about an hour and a half now. :)
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I know I'm repeating myself, but this is SO FUCKING HARD. I'm about halfway through the Ranker, and I'm listening as I go, and I make a choice, then hear one of those songs an hour later and I'm like "I have to go back and change my answer".
This is me 9 times out of 10: "Wow, this is so good; better than I remember."
This is me 1 times out of 10: "Wow, that sounds like 19xx".
This is me 0 times out of 10: "Wow, I didn't realize how much this sucked."
EDIT: I just came up with this choice: "The Rain Song" or "Stairway To Heaven". It's been on my screen for about an hour and a half now. :)
The answer is Thomas Jefferson, sucka!
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All right...good enough...
I - 3
II - 5
III - 2
untitled - 8
Houses - 7
PG - 7
Presence - 1
Door - 6
Coda - 0
Other - 1
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I know I'm repeating myself, but this is SO FUCKING HARD.
Same for me, this is by far the hardest one yet. After a week of doing nothing (musically) but revisiting the Zep catalogue I've got it down to 47 songs but it's gonna be brutal leaving off 7 of those tunes.
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I did my list solely on memory, nostalgia, and gut. I haven't listen to LZ in any capacity in 20 years. I am going to go through all their albums over the next couple weeks, but no listening in 2022 is going to change my rankings. Their songs are so ingrained in my musical psyche.
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For me:
I - 4
II - 3
III - 4 (Includes b-sides)
IV - 6
HOTH - 5
PG - 11
P - 2
ITTOD - 3
Coda - 2 (Based on the reissue)
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10 lists so far.
One week left to submit!!
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10 lists so far.
One week left to submit!!
Make it 11 - literally just sent it to you 5 minutes ago.
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Ok, that'll do. I got:
I: 4
II: 6
III: 3
IV: 7
HOTH: 7
PG: 8
Presence: 3
ITTOD: 2
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I - 6
II - 6
III - 4 (Includes b-sides)
IV - 8
HOTH - 5
PG - 7
P - 2
ITTOD - 2
More from LZ1 than I anticipated. Everything else looks like I would have expected.
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While we kill time before the countdown I'll give my ranking of the albums, having just relistened to them all several times.
1. Houses of the Holy
2. Physical Graffiti
3. IV
4. II
5.Presence
6. III
7. I
8. In Through The Out Door
9. Coda
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1. Physical Graffiti
2. Houses Of The Holy
3. II
4. IV
5. Presence
6. ITTOD
7. I
8. III
9. Coda
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1. IV
2. III
3. II
4. Physical Grafitti
5. I
6. Houses of the Holy
7. In Through The Out Door
8. Presence
9. Coda
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I had so much fun ranking the songs through the ranker linked in the OP. Looking at the list, it looks both accurate and satisfying. I sent you the list, Kev. :tup
My top forty reflects my ranking of the albums in a big way:
1. Houses of the holy
2. In through the out door
3. III
4. IV
5. Presence
6. Physical graffiti
7. II
8. I
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Working on the rest of my top 40 whilst prepping a roast dinner, lovely.
I know I keep banging the same drum about LZ I here, but I am shocked it's average rating is so low! I know that it's not generally as well loved as some of their other albums but to see it ranked 7th or lower in 3 of the 4 rankings above took me by surprise.
My ranking is
1. I
2. IV
3. II
4. III
5. Physical Graffiti
6. Houses of the Holy
7. Presence
8. In Through The Out Door
9. Coda
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Working on the rest of my top 40 whilst prepping a roast dinner, lovely.
I know I keep banging the same drum about LZ I here, but I am shocked it's average rating is so low! I know that it's not generally as well loved as some of their other albums but to see it ranked 7th or lower in 3 of the 4 rankings above took me by surprise.
TASTESTM!!!
I've nearly got all of III on my Top 40, and most others have 3 or 4. Some tunes just hit you in a particular way, for a particular reason, at a particular time.
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1. PG
2. HOTH
3. IV
4. I
5. III
6. II
7. Presence
8. ITTOD
9. Coda
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Working on the rest of my top 40 whilst prepping a roast dinner, lovely.
I know I keep banging the same drum about LZ I here, but I am shocked it's average rating is so low! I know that it's not generally as well loved as some of their other albums but to see it ranked 7th or lower in 3 of the 4 rankings above took me by surprise.
TASTESTM!!!
I've nearly got all of III on my Top 40, and most others have 3 or 4. Some tunes just hit you in a particular way, for a particular reason, at a particular time.
I just find it an interesting talking point, whilst we wait for this to start.
For instance, with the top 25 singers thread, although there were a lot of singers who made the list, who weren't to my tastes, I wasn't half as surprised as I am by LZ I being rated generally lower.
I guess going into this I was under the impression that LZ's last three albums were widely accepted as their weakest. I was under no Illusion that LZ I would top many peoples lists but I am surprised it's lower, more often than not.
Not in like a "THIS IS AN OUTRAGE" kinda way, more that I guess I had it wrong about the general consensus on these albums. I never would've assumed having LZ I at the top of your ranking was akin to having Load or Reload at the top of a Metallica ranking :lol
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I guess going into this I was under the impression that LZ's last three albums were widely accepted as their weakest. I was under no Illusion that LZ I would top many peoples lists but I am surprised it's lower, more often than not.
Not counting Coda, because it's really not a proper album, but their last three albums are Physical Graffiti-Presence-In Through The Out Door. Far from weak.
If I had to choose, I'm taking their last 4 albums over their first four. (Again, not counting Coda)
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I guess going into this I was under the impression that LZ's last three albums were widely accepted as their weakest. I was under no Illusion that LZ I would top many peoples lists but I am surprised it's lower, more often than not.
Not counting Coda, because it's really not a proper album, but their last three albums are Physical Graffiti-Presence-In Through The Out Door. Far from weak.
If I had to choose, I'm taking their last 4 albums over their first four. (Again, not counting Coda)
Shows how much I know as I thought Coda was a proper album :lol
I don't consider Presence and In Through The Out Door weak, just weaker than the albums that preceeded them. My impression over the years was that that had kinda become general consensus, but only because of the strength of LZ's catalogue on the whole.
This thread has just opened my eyes to how their catalogue is generally rated, compared to how I'd thought it was.
Imagine the suprise of someone who thought St Anger was generally well received by Metallica fans for years, only to find out they were very wrong. I guess that's where I am sitting right now.
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OK, just sent my list. No surprises, mine was LZ I heavy :lol
I - 9
II - 7
III - 3
IV - 7
Houses of the Holy - 6
Physical Graffiti - 4
Presence - 2
In Through The Out Door - 1
Coda - 1
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nothing wrong with that...it's Zeppelin...there won't be anything wrong with anyone's list.
But....if anyone lists "Hats Off to (Roy) Harper" in their Top 40, I'd be shocked. The ONLY song in their original discography (including 'Coda') that I hate and do not include on my CDr versions. A real shame that 'Hey Hey What Can I Do' wasn't used in its place.
I’ll just copy what I stated in rating LZ III as the #13 album from my all-time Top 50 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=29431.105) … “If not for the final track (which is the only Zeppelin song that I truly dislike), this would be in my top 3. Replace it with Hey Hey What Can I Do - which until 1990’s box set, was only found on the B-side of The Immigrant Side’s 45 (if you’re ??? with what I’m saying, go look it up kids), and it might even be my #1 album.”
That's a good thread. Will skim through it soon. :tup
This was a hard one. Assigning numbers to 5 through 20 was tough, as was leaving off those that were 41-50.
I... 5
II... 6
III... 2
Zoso...8
Houses...6
Graffiti ....4
Presence....2
Door... 6
Coda....0
Bonus...1
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Sent
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I am on board with the general consensus that there were 3 phases of Zep. I-III is the “amazing” phase, IV-PG is the “as close to perfection as a band can get” phase. And then Presence-Coda which was the “some of this is really good, but I guess they aren’t perfect after all” phase.
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I am on board with the general consensus that there were 3 phases of Zep. I-III is the “amazing” phase, IV-PG is the “as close to perfection as a band can get” phase. And then Presence-Coda which was the “some of this is really good, but I guess they aren’t perfect after all” phase.
I'd change the first phase to: Half of this is amazing and half of this is bland, ripped off old blues songs.
I'm also getting the feeling that I like ITTOD more than most and PG a bit less than most.
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I also don't count Coda as a real studio album, and I would definitely be on the list of those who consider I through Houses to be their peak. PG has a handful of great songs, but has a lot of okay/solid tunes, making it a tedious listen due to it being a double. Presence is more forgettable than not, and while I like In Through the Out Door more than many (my number 4 song is from that album, and, no, it is not the long song), it doesn't touch those early albums.
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Alright, alright, alright!
Up to 16 lists.
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I like In Through the Out Door more than many (my number 4 song is from that album, and, no, it is not the long song),
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1. Physical Graffiti
2. IV
3. Houses Of The Holy
4. II
5. III
6. Presence
7. I
8. In Through The Out Door
9. Coda
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Just based on my top 40 (and I don't think much would change if I extended the list):
1. untitled
2. Graffiti
3. Door
4. Houses
5. II
6. I
7. III
8. Presence
9. Coda
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Sent my list.
Breakdown by album:
I 6
II 6
III - 9
IV - 5
Houses of Holy - 5
Physical Graffiti 5
Presence 1
In Through the Out Door 3
Album rankings.
1.Untitled
2.Houses of Holy
3 III
4.I
5.II
6.Physical Graffiti
7. In Through...
8. Presence
9.Coda
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Sent my list.
Breakdown by album:
I 6
II 6
III - 9
IV - 5
Houses of Holy - 5
Physical Graffiti 5
Presence 1
In Through the Out Door 3
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Although, ranking 9 songs from III, and then 5 songs from IV and HOTS in your top 40 doesn't seem to jive with your album ratings.
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Sent my list.
Breakdown by album:
I 6
II 6
III - 9
IV - 5
Houses of Holy - 5
Physical Graffiti 5
Presence 1
In Through the Out Door 3
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Although, ranking 9 songs from III, and then 5 songs from IV and HOTS in your top 40 doesn't seem to jive with your album ratings.
I know. I was surprised myself. I am mostly an acoustic guitar kind guy, so I think that's why so many of the III's songs cracked my top 40 - but both IV and Houses have much more impressive peaks.
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18 lists now, and assuming I eye balled it correctly, there have been only two songs to make all 18 lists.
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18 lists now, and assuming I eye balled it correctly, there have been only two songs to make all 18 lists.
That is fascinating.
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18 lists now, and assuming I eye balled it correctly, there have been only two songs to make all 18 lists.
That's amazing actually. It's not like a million songs to pick from.
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18 lists now, and assuming I eye balled it correctly, there have been only two songs to make all 18 lists.
That's amazing actually. It's not like a million songs to pick from.
This for sure.
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and ????
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18 lists now, and assuming I eye balled it correctly, there have been only two songs to make all 18 lists.
So Stairway & Kashmir made all. BUT, how could so many others NOT be on all lists?! :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg:
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^^ I wouldn't be so sure about Kashmir. It did make my list but I know plenty of Zep fans who don't rate it all that highly and find it to be overly-repetitive and kinda runs out of steam for the last couple of minutes.
On a related note there's a 'Zep classic' (always makes the greatest hits packages at least) that I'm sure will figure high on this list but which came nowhere near mine. It's one of the few Zeppelin songs I actively dislike. I'll say more when it inevitably comes up.
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Yeah, I wouldn't assume anything. It's easy to think, "oh, the two songs everyone will list will be this and that," but you'd probably be wrong.
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^^ I wouldn't be so sure about Kashmir. I did make my list but I know plenty of Zep fans who don't rate it all that highly and find it to be overly-repetitive and kinda runs out of steam for the last couple of minutes.
On a related note there's a 'Zep classic' (always makes the greatest hits packages at least) that I'm sure will figure high on this list but which came nowhere near mine. It's one of the few Zeppelin songs I actively dislike. I'll say more when it inevitably comes up.
I have THREE songs that didn't make my list (not "Kashmir") that are apparently pretty popular with the fanbase if you judge the hits packages and the setlists.
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18 lists now, and assuming I eye balled it correctly, there have been only two songs to make all 18 lists.
That's amazing actually. It's not like a million songs to pick from.
I find that shocking as well. 83 songs to get 40 if my math is correct.
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That is wild.
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I concur. It might be the most astonishing statistic to end all astonishing statistics. Wonder what the odds are? We must have a mathematician here who can calculate it? :biggrin:
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My math has always been terrible, but I tried to take a stab at it and it didn't seem so improbable.
There are forty songs and twenty of us. Lets say each one of us dislikes two Led Zeppelin songs that are generally considered classics. We all happen to consider certain songs overrated.
For example, I never really loved Dazed and confused and Whole lotta love, so even if they appear on 19 lists, they didn't appear on the 20th one. Lets say someone else excluded Immigrant song and Kashmir. Lets say another person excluded Achilles last stand and No quarter.
At the end of the day, only two songs accidentally end up being featured on every list.
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My math has always been terrible, but I tried to take a stab at it and it didn't seem so improbable.
There are forty songs and twenty of us. Lets say each one of us dislikes two Led Zeppelin songs that are generally considered classics. We all happen to consider certain songs overrated.
For example, I never really loved Dazed and confused and Whole lotta love, so even if they appear on 19 lists, they didn't appear on the 20th one. Lets say someone else excluded Immigrant song and Kashmir. Lets say another person excluded Achilles last stand and No quarter.
At the end of the day, only two songs accidentally end up being featured on every list.
That's the part that took some time to sink in; it's not that only two songs were on MULTIPLE lists, it's that only two songs are on ALL lists. All you need is one guy; there are 83 songs. If 17 of the 18 people (so far) put the first 40 songs released by the band on there, there would be 40 songs on 17 lists. If the last person (so far) put the LAST 40 songs released by the band on HIS list, boom, you have NO SONGS on all 18 lists.
I think it's amazing in terms of taste and the general uniformity of the forum; it's not amazing at all in terms of mathematics or statistics.
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While it seemed surprising in one regard, it's not when you break it down. Again, you only need ONE participant to simply not like a certain song, and voila! it's not on "Every list". And when you further think about it, it's not like 40 of them all had a legitimate chance of being on every list. You could probably narrow it down to a dozen or so that legitimately 'mostly everyone' likes... and then you only need to be that ONE guy that doesn't vote it.
I wonder how many songs will make "all-except-one" lists?
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2 out of 83 Zeppelin songs is about the same percentage we had with Fates Warning, which saw only 3 out of 114 songs make every list (and 9 songs not make any list).
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I left off two extremely popular songs.
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2 out of 83 Zeppelin songs is about the same percentage we had with Fates Warning, which saw only 3 out of 114 songs make every list (and 9 songs not make any list).
Now that's interesting - how many LZ songs will make no list. Not-so-bold prediction ... most of them will be from CODA.
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I couldn't in good conscience leave out a few LZ songs I never need to hear again in my life, just because of the impact they had on me at the time I discovered them, and the countless times I've listened to them over the years, even if that stopped a long time ago.
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Is it weird to be so excited about this all kicking off? Can't wait
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I couldn't in good conscience leave out a few LZ songs I never need to hear again in my life, just because of the impact they had on me at the time I discovered them, and the countless times I've listened to them over the years, even if that stopped a long time ago.
I hear that. There are a couple of those that ended up in the 30s for me. Songs that are major classics, ones I never need to hear again, but they are obviously good songs, so I had to include them. Had they not made it when I did the ranker, I likely would have snuck them in and did some tweaking, but both landed in the 30s because when it came down to the 1 on 1 battles, I was like, "yeah, as overplayed as this is, this is better than this deep cut that I like that isn't so overplayed."
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I think once I got past like 25 songs, 26-50 are all basically interchangeable.
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There are two highly unpopular songs that I absolutely love, but I chickened out and left them out of my top 40. In retrospect, I should have included them. :lol
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Is it weird to be so excited about this all kicking off? Can't wait
I'm with you: I might be looking forward to this as much as any we've done (the only one close was Maiden).
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I think once I got past like 25 songs, 26-50 are all basically interchangeable.
Me too. About 20 for me; then the next 30 are thrown in a hat and pulled out.
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2 out of 83 Zeppelin songs is about the same percentage we had with Fates Warning, which saw only 3 out of 114 songs make every list (and 9 songs not make any list).
Now that's interesting - how many LZ songs will make no list. Not-so-bold prediction ... most of them will be from CODA.
Yeah...I didn't give any consideration to the two live covers or the drum solo.
There are two highly unpopular songs that I absolutely love, but I chickened out and left them out of my top 40. In retrospect, I should have included them. :lol
I have one such song in my top 40 and at least 1-2 popular songs that weren't on my list.
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I couldn't in good conscience leave out a few LZ songs I never need to hear again in my life, just because of the impact they had on me at the time I discovered them, and the countless times I've listened to them over the years, even if that stopped a long time ago.
I hear that. There are a couple of those that ended up in the 30s for me. Songs that are major classics, ones I never need to hear again, but they are obviously good songs, so I had to include them. Had they not made it when I did the ranker, I likely would have snuck them in and did some tweaking, but both landed in the 30s because when it came down to the 1 on 1 battles, I was like, "yeah, as overplayed as this is, this is better than this deep cut that I like that isn't so overplayed."
Even if I had history with a song, I think I pretty much based it on if I was going to make a playlist today.
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Even if I had history with a song, I think I pretty much based it on if I was going to make a playlist today.
That was largely how I handled the DT, IM, and Rush countdowns. LZ is a legacy act for me now, versus one I actively listen to. Yet looking at my list, it fairly represents what would be a playlist should I create one today.
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19 lists locked in. All lists due by the end of this Saturday!
Who else is still planning to submit one?
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Me, I'm just making the last adjustments. :tup
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Wish I could do this but I can't. :dunno:
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Wish I could do this but I can't. :dunno:
Of course you can! Buck up, young lad! :) :) :)
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19 lists locked in. All lists due by the end of this Saturday!
Who else is still planning to submit one?
My list is in!
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19 lists locked in. All lists due by the end of this Saturday!
Who else is still planning to submit one?
I’ll try to get my list done this evening or tomorrow.
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19 lists locked in. All lists due by the end of this Saturday!
Who else is still planning to submit one?
I’ll try to get my list done this evening or tomorrow.
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19 lists locked in. All lists due by the end of this Saturday!
Who else is still planning to submit one?
I’ll try to get my list done this evening or tomorrow.
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Ikm doing! I’m doing!
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19 lists locked in. All lists due by the end of this Saturday!
Who else is still planning to submit one?
I’ll try to get my list done this evening or tomorrow.
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Ikm doing! I’m doing!
Just go with your gut dude, don't worry about overthinking it. Other than leaving Babe I'm Gonna Leave You off your list, there are no wrong answers :tup
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List sent. I didn’t overthink it as much as I’ve done with other lists.
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I didn’t overthink it as much as I’ve done with other lists.
I didn't either. And then I listened to some Zeppelin in the car on Thursday and Friday and realized I remembered some songs being better than I now think they are.
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Yeah, about half the catalogue :biggrin:
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Countdown will start tomorrow!
21 lists were accepted and counted!
7 songs did not end up on any of the 21 lists.
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I still regret not including two of those. :lol
I'm really looking forward to this countdown. :tup
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I'm pumped.
That's interesting only 7 didn't show in a single list. Any other tasty statistics?
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I'm pumped.
That's interesting only 7 didn't show in a single list. Any other tasty statistics?
There will be 40 songs in the top 40.
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How many songs made every list?
I actually swapped lists with three guys and matched 25 songs on each list..
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How many songs made every list?
Two.
I actually swapped lists with three guys and matched 25 songs on each list..
Haha, I will assume you are kidding.
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I'm pumped.
That's interesting only 7 didn't show in a single list. Any other tasty statistics?
There will be 40 songs in the top 40.
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How many songs made every list?
Two.
I actually swapped lists with three guys and matched 25 songs on each list..
Haha, I will assume you are kidding.
No I am not kidding lol.
Seriously...only TWO songs made every list??
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Two songs, yes.
And I thought you meant something else with the swapped thing. Ignore my comment there. :lol :lol
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Thanks again to everyone who submitted a list.
Below are the 21 posters whose lists were submitted and accepted.
Only had one list this time that I had to reject (for having TWO duplicates), so we are getting better at this. :lol :lol
Zoom E
LudwigVan
The Realm
Animal
nobloodyname
kingshmegland
DragonAttack
twosuitsluke
Mladen
Dave_Manchester
jingle.boy
pg1067
Stadler
jammindude
Dream Team
TAC
WilliamMunny
Cool Chris
DTwwbwMP
hefdaddy42
KevShmev
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Two songs, yes.
As always this comment is mindboggling...but I guess it only takes one, or sometimes two or three to leave off a 'classic'...
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I left off two absolute classics. ;D
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I left off two absolute classics. ;D
Well, there you go. If we all leave off a classic here and there (and a different one at that) then maybe even having 2 songs make every list is an achievement!
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I believe all the "classics" made my list.
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40 Living Loving Maid (She’s Just a Woman)
Appeared on 13 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 8 (Dream Team)
3 Top 10 Finishes
I am sure, like me, many had a hard time ranking this on its own since it so connected to Heartbreaker thanks to classic rock radio. I had it at 35. Fun little tune. Jimmy Page hates it, so he'd probably die a little on the inside if he were reading this and saw that it had make the top 40.
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do
Appeared on 10 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 5 (Cool Chris)
3 Top 10 Finishes
I was surprised that this one didn't get a little more love. I wasn't expecting top 10, but making less than half the lists AND barely making the top 40 was not what I expected. I ranked it 18th, which seems about right, but I am way in the minority it would appear. How this was left off III is still a total mystery to me (I know the reason, but still, wtf?).
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Neither song made my list, but I dig both tracks—a testament to the potency of Zeppelin's catalog!
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40 Living Loving Maid (She’s Just a Woman)
Appeared on 13 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 8 (Dream Team)
3 Top 10 Finishes
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do
Appeared on 10 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 5 (Cool Chris)
3 Top 10 Finishes
I had Living Loving Maid at #35. Sure, it does feel natural following Heartbreaker, but I easily think of it on its own. It's cool, catchy and upbeat.
I had Hey Hey What Can I Do at #25. I think it t=might be a tad underrated due to it not being on any album, so it missed out on all of those bake sessions that the actual albums got to experience. But it was a staple on the radio growing up, and a great song.
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Living Loving Maid at #11
Hey, Hey did not make my list.
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Living Loving Maid has a fun and catchy riff that I like to play along to. Haven't heard the other one.
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LLM = 31 for me. I actually prefer it over Heartbreaker, but separating these two is like separating We Will Rock You / We Are The Champions.
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Hey Hey - 17 for me. I actually did find the Immigrant Song 45 single once in a record store, but man they had the price jacked up on it - like, more than the actual album. Thank god they finally released it on the Box Set. As I've said, replace Roy Harper with this tune, and III may be my #1b album of all-time - certainly it would top IV for my liking.
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I placed Heartbreaker/Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) at #38/39 and I never heard them on radio, but I always thought they really work great together!
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39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do
Appeared on 10 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 5 (Cool Chris)
3 Top 10 Finishes
I was surprised that this one didn't get a little more love. I wasn't expecting top 10, but making less than half the lists AND barely making the top 40 was not what I expected. I ranked it 18th, which seems about right, but I am way in the minority it would appear. How this was left off III is still a total mystery to me (I know the reason, but still, wtf?).
For us ignorant folk, what was the reason? You've got my curiosity.
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I didn’t do a list, but I’m gonna try to listen along to the songs as they’re revealed to better round out my knowledge of LZ. I had brothers who like Zeppelin growing up, and I know a bunch of their songs from the radio, but not necessarily well enough to recall songs from titles alone (and it’s been decades since I listened to classic rock radio regularly).
I’d say of these two songs, Hey Hey What Can I Do would be more likely to have made a top 40 for me. I know Living Loving Maid well enough from radio, and probably never need to hear it again. It is kind of fun in almost a Beatles kind of way I guess. Hey Hey is a bit nondescript, especially lyrically, but I guess I’d prefer to listen to it again between these two songs. If I were running the ranker with these two, Hey Hey would win.
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40 Living Loving Maid (She’s Just a Woman)
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39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do
Maid at #38 and Hey at #37. In retrospect, I'd have swapped Maid with Heartbreaker, which ranked much higher on my list. However, HB is one of the songs that I listened to after I submitted my list that I didn't like a much as I remembered. Maid is a nice little rocker, but nothing special. I believe it was 1990 when the boxed set was released that Hey started getting a shitload of airplay on Socal radio. It's solid. Better than most of the stuff on III.
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I haven't even considered Living loving maid, but it is a good track. I don't care about the other one.
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I had "Living Loving Maid (She's Just A Woman)" at 45 (ahead of Heartbreaker). Very good song, there's just better.
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39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do
Appeared on 10 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 5 (Cool Chris)
3 Top 10 Finishes
I was surprised that this one didn't get a little more love. I wasn't expecting top 10, but making less than half the lists AND barely making the top 40 was not what I expected. I ranked it 18th, which seems about right, but I am way in the minority it would appear. How this was left off III is still a total mystery to me (I know the reason, but still, wtf?).
For us ignorant folk, what was the reason? You've got my curiosity.
I remember hearing the story several times way back in the day that they thought III already had enough acoustic and/or mellow material and didn't want to overdo it by including another acoustic song. Seems weird to be given the nature of the overall album, but it was the early 70s and drugs were everywhere, so, yeah. :lol
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I can get that, I mean it was pushing the limit that almost 1/2 the songs were largely acoustic.
Friends
Gallows Pole (1/2 of it at least)
Tangerine
That's The Way
Bron-y-Aur Stomp
And if Hats Off was replaced with Hey Hey, that would've made the entirety of Side 2 "acoustic"
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I had Livin Lovin Maid at 22, and did not rank Hey, Hey, What Can I Do.
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Livin Lovin Maid - Did not rank
It’s ok I guess. I like Heartbreaker better. I’m actually surprised this one made the list.
Hey Hey What Can I Do - #33
And I’m really surprised this one is that low…although I suppose it’s not that far from my ranking. This is the song I hinted at earlier when I said it had gained a “mystical” status through the 80s because the radio stations played it, but it was really hard to get your hands on. Until the boxed set was released, my only copy was on a cassette tape recorded off the radio (with the tab broken out so I couldn’t record over it accidentally). Really great song.
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I didn't rank either of these songs personally. I didn't keep my full ranking but I know Living Loving Maid just missed out being in the top 40.
Yea neither ever left the greatest impression on me, but are enjoyable enough.
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I had Living Loving Maid exactly at 40. As someone who didn't listen to LZ until late 90's (high school) when singles were largely a history, I know only albums - I had no idea it was "inseparably" paired with Heartbreaker.
For that reason -listening only to the albums - I ignored Hey, Hey, What Can I Do almost completely. I mean, I have heard it, but I just didn't give it e real shake. It's a shame since listening to it now again, it does sounds like a kind of song I might like. I enjoy LZ acoustic stuff a lot - I rated 9 songs from III in my top 40 -though almost all of them close to the bottom of it (except the two great ones).
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40 Living Loving Maid (She’s Just a Woman)
Had this one at 25
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do
BINGO! Number 39 on my list
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I rated 9 songs from III in my top 40 -though almost all of them close to the bottom of it (except the two great ones).
Yeah, but which 2?? There's 7 GREAT ones on that album. :biggrin:
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Only two songs in and I'm already kicking myself for leaving Hey, Hey off my list. What was I thinking? In retrospect it should've slotted somewhere in the low 30's. I also think it should've made the cut for LZIII.
LLM didn't make my list either, but deservedly so. If it weren't inextricably tied to Heartbreaker, it'd be filler material.
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I had Living Loving Maid exactly at 40. As someone who didn't listen to LZ until late 90's (high school) when singles were largely a history, I know only albums - I had no idea it was "inseparably" paired with Heartbreaker.
If you only know albums, then you should know that the "inseparable" pairing is a result of them being right after each other on the album and with LLM starting IMMEDIATELY after the last note of Heartbreaker.
I rated 9 songs from III in my top 40 -though almost all of them close to the bottom of it (except the two great ones).
Yeah, but which 2?? There's 7 GREAT ones on that album. :biggrin:
7?! You must have a different version of LZ3 than I have. :biggrin:
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The Canadian version must be vastly different than the US version. :lol
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The Canadian version must be vastly different than the US version. :lol
That's The Way
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I rated 9 songs from III in my top 40 -though almost all of them close to the bottom of it (except the two great ones).
Yeah, but which 2?? There's 7 GREAT ones on that album. :biggrin:
No idea whether this is a hot take or what, but the thought that Since I've Been Loving You WOULDN'T be in everyone's LZIII top 2 would blow my mind.
Preparing mind to be blown
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I rated 9 songs from III in my top 40 -though almost all of them close to the bottom of it (except the two great ones).
Yeah, but which 2?? There's 7 GREAT ones on that album. :biggrin:
No idea whether this is a hot take or what, but the thought that Since I've Been Loving You WOULDN'T be in everyone's LZIII top 2 would blow my mind.
Preparing mind to be blown
It's not in mine (and I only had two LZ3 songs in my top 40).
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40 Living Loving Maid (She’s Just a Woman)
Appeared on 13 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 8 (Dream Team)
3 Top 10 Finishes
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do
Appeared on 10 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 5 (Cool Chris)
3 Top 10 Finishes
Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) - my rank 9. Well done, Dream Team as I can't believe I wasn't the highest ranker for this song. Just always loved this one and brings back some great memories from my college days.
Hey, Hey, What Can I Do - I didn't rank this.
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The Canadian version must be vastly different than the US version. :lol
That's The Way 'eh
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Hey, Hey, What Can I Do... Until the boxed set was released, my only copy was on a cassette tape recorded off the radio (with the tab broken out so I couldn’t record over it accidentally).
I can't say for certain this was me as well, but it does have the ring of familiarity. There were quite a few songs that I "owned" in this manner. I heard this one on the radio a lot, it wasn't on any of the CDs I owned, and when I saw the 2 LZ CDs I didn't own at the record store, it wasn't listed on either. What the heck was this song, anyway?!
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We now get two songs I never heard played on the radio.
38 Nobody’s Fault But Mine
Appeared on 13 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 10 (Dave_Manchester)
1 Top 10 Finish
Never a fan of this one myself. I'd like to throw that harmonica in a wood chipper, and I never liked the scatting Plant does over the main riff. Some good stuff in there, but too much stuff I don't like.
37 Carouselambra
Appeared on 11 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 5 (pg1067, Mladen)
2 Top 10 Finishes
On the flip side, I always liked this one a lot. I love the dynamic shifts, and while I get that a synth heavy 10-minute song is not wanted many LZ fans probably wanted, it's good enough to work. I think that in some ways, it is a glimpse into what we'd get out of Robert Plant early in his solo career. I ranked this 19th.
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11th for me, just missing the Top 10. The lyrics are just so 'out there', and for years I had no clue what the fuck Plant was singing. Thanks to the Internets, circa-1994, I finally got them. And they just hit a sweet spot with me. The keyboard melodies - while brutally repetitive - also just scratch a certain itch. 2nd highest ranking 10+ minute song for me.
Nobody's Fault But Mine, was the first song to miss my cut, 41. I had it in there at one point, but then had to chop it.
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Carouselambra missed the cut, as I think I had it somewhere between 41-50.
I had Nobody's Fault But Mine at #30 though :tup
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Thumbs up to pg1067 for getting the ranking of Carouselambra just right. That's such a fantastic song. :tup
I also love Nobody's fault but mine. Vocally, rhytmically, structurally, it's a great piece of work. I did use to dislike it initially, though, but something changed.
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I love both (Carouselambra#21/Nobody’s Fault But Mine#19), they really show the diversity/creativity in LZ's sound.
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I had "Living Loving Maid (She's Just A Woman)" at 45 (ahead of Heartbreaker). Very good song, there's just better.
I really dig Carouselambra; it's jus so different from what you think of when you think "Zeppelin" and yet it's absolutely at the level of quality of the rest of the catalogue. I put NFBM at 38; it's a great tune and I love it, but again, I just love other things more. I don't really care for Plant's screaming, and so this is one of the better examples of PLant's voice and Page's guitar working in harmony but without some of the screaming that was so prevalent on the early material (where there was a LOT of vocal/guitar interplay).
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Nobody’s Fault But Mine is one I’m well-familiar with. Can’t say it’s ever been a favorite, but it has some merits (the main guitar riff is nice). Did Page get any royalties for this one from Billy Squire for Lonely Is The Night?
Carouselambra sounds somewhat familiar, but I can’t say for sure if I’ve heard it before. This is a fun tune. I like when LZ use keyboards. Gives it kind of a Yes feel in places. I could see myself ranking this one fairly highly. Proggy Zeppelin is the best Zeppelin.
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I had Living Loving Maid exactly at 40. As someone who didn't listen to LZ until late 90's (high school) when singles were largely a history, I know only albums - I had no idea it was "inseparably" paired with Heartbreaker.
If you only know albums, then you should know that the "inseparable" pairing is a result of them being right after each other on the album and with LLM starting IMMEDIATELY after the last note of Heartbreaker.
A momentary lapse of cognitive functions on my part. When everyone started talking about LLM and Heartbreaker pairing, I just assumed they were parts of the same single. I have no idea why I thought so. I know LZ records well enough to know how much I like individual songs but I don't remember the order they go in so well. Until recently, I would have bet on Stairway to Heaven being the IV's closer....
Re: Nobody's Fault But Mine, Carouselambra.
I didn't rank either song but Carouselambra came close. I like proggy Zeppelin but this one is far from their best efforts.
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We now get two songs I never heard played on the radio.
38 Nobody’s Fault But Mine
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37 Carouselambra
I didn't rank Nobody's Fault. It's the first of what I assume will be many songs in the countdown where LZ did a cover without giving credit. I recall this song being prominently discussed in the Hammer of the Gods bio, which was one of the first books I read after graduating high school (so it made a big impression on me as I was getting into Zeppelin in the late '80s.
As for Carouselambra, since I didn't get into Zeppelin until after they were done, I didn't have the perspective of "oh...the mighty Zeppelin is doing a 10-minute synth song...how awful!" I "discovered" albums out of order, and I was at a point where I was able to accept a song like this (I got into Zeppelin around the same time I was getting heavily into Yes). I just love the synth sounds on this song, as well as the picked clean electric, which sounds somewhat reminiscent of Rush. I like Plant's vocal lines, although I haven't the slightest idea what he's singing.
Thumbs up to pg1067 for getting the ranking of Carouselambra just right. That's such a fantastic song. :tup
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I didn't rank Nobody's Fault. It's the first of what I assume will be many songs in the countdown where LZ did a cover without giving credit.
Ah, so it was only fair for Squier to do the same!
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38 Nobody’s Fault But Mine
#11
37 Carouselambra
#24
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I didn't rank Nobody's Fault. It's the first of what I assume will be many songs in the countdown where LZ did a cover without giving credit.
Ah, so it was only fair for Squier to do the same!
Haha!
Nothing to do with Billy Squier, but I see many referring to "Carouselambra" as a "prog" song. For as much as Zeppelin is steeped in the blues, and for as much as there is a lot of Celtic influence in Page's playing, I don't think of Zeppelin as a "genre" band. I don't think of this song as "prog" and this song as "folk" and this song as "this"... they were, kind of like the Beatles, above that. I was never all that put out by the "copyright" thing either; easy for me to say, I wasn't missing out on the money. But so much of Zeppelin was about the interplay of the musicians, and the live experience, that to me the songs were really just a jumping off point. I sort of - sort of - see Page's point that they weren't "stealing", they were furthering the long tradition of passing down songs that may or may not have ACTUALLY been written by those who claimed authorship, but may themselves be channeling earlier iterations.
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38 Nobody’s Fault But Mine
Appeared on 13 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 10 (Dave_Manchester)
1 Top 10 Finish
37 Carouselambra
Appeared on 11 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 5 (pg1067, Mladen)
2 Top 10 Finishes
I had Nobody's Fault But Mine at #17. This was definitely played on the radio around here. I feel like this was a more modern take on what they were doing earlier in the career.
I had Carouselambra at #37. Hit it square! I never hated this song, but the keyboards kind of border on tedious in spots. But below the keyboards is a song that I definitely like.
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38 Nobody’s Fault But Mine
Appeared on 13 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 10 (Dave_Manchester)
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37 Carouselambra
Appeared on 11 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 5 (pg1067, Mladen)
2 Top 10 Finishes
Nobody's Fault But Mine - unranked. A bit like Kev, I find the harmonica and the scatting vocals by Plant to be very annoying. I actually think that main riff is also really annoying and just doesn't appeal to me. The solo section is good and the verses are fine but just not enough good stuff overall in this song.
Carouselambra - unranked. I just have rarely listened to In Through the Out Door so no songs on this album really had a chance to make my top 40. Just listened to this song now to refresh the memory and well, pretty surprised this in the top 40 but it does have some nice moments.
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I didn't rank Nobody's Fault. It's the first of what I assume will be many songs in the countdown where LZ did a cover without giving credit.
Ah, so it was only fair for Squier to do the same!
Haha!
Nothing to do with Billy Squier, but I see many referring to "Carouselambra" as a "prog" song. For as much as Zeppelin is steeped in the blues, and for as much as there is a lot of Celtic influence in Page's playing, I don't think of Zeppelin as a "genre" band. I don't think of this song as "prog" and this song as "folk" and this song as "this"... they were, kind of like the Beatles, above that. I was never all that put out by the "copyright" thing either; easy for me to say, I wasn't missing out on the money. But so much of Zeppelin was about the interplay of the musicians, and the live experience, that to me the songs were really just a jumping off point. I sort of - sort of - see Page's point that they weren't "stealing", they were furthering the long tradition of passing down songs that may or may not have ACTUALLY been written by those who claimed authorship, but may themselves be channeling earlier iterations.
As I sit here wondering what the "Squier" reference means...
Just for the sake of clarify, I didn't not rank Nobody's Fault BECAUSE it was an uncredited cover. I didn't rank it because I don't really like it. It's a somewhat annoying and repetitive earworm of a song. And an early '70s Zeppelin concert is relatively high on my to-do list once time travel is invented.
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I didn't rank Nobody's Fault. It's the first of what I assume will be many songs in the countdown where LZ did a cover without giving credit.
Ah, so it was only fair for Squier to do the same!
Haha!
Nothing to do with Billy Squier, but I see many referring to "Carouselambra" as a "prog" song. For as much as Zeppelin is steeped in the blues, and for as much as there is a lot of Celtic influence in Page's playing, I don't think of Zeppelin as a "genre" band. I don't think of this song as "prog" and this song as "folk" and this song as "this"... they were, kind of like the Beatles, above that. I was never all that put out by the "copyright" thing either; easy for me to say, I wasn't missing out on the money. But so much of Zeppelin was about the interplay of the musicians, and the live experience, that to me the songs were really just a jumping off point. I sort of - sort of - see Page's point that they weren't "stealing", they were furthering the long tradition of passing down songs that may or may not have ACTUALLY been written by those who claimed authorship, but may themselves be channeling earlier iterations.
As I sit here wondering what the "Squier" reference means...
Just for the sake of clarify, I didn't not rank Nobody's Fault BECAUSE it was an uncredited cover. I didn't rank it because I don't really like it. It's a somewhat annoying and repetitive earworm of a song. And an early '70s Zeppelin concert is relatively high on my to-do list once time travel is invented.
I made a comment before that about Squier owing Page for the opening guitar lick/riff on Lonely In the Night, which to me sounds awfully similar to the beginning of Nobody's Fault But Mine.
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Neither song made my top 40, though Nobody’s Fault but Mine was close at #44.
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The next two, both of which are from the same album!
35 (t) All My Love
Appeared on 13 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 13 (Mladen)
0 Top 10 Finishes
This one didn't quite make the cut for me, but still a good song. The entire instrumental section in the middle, which was so different for them, is the highlight of the song.
35 (t) Fool in the Rain
Appeared on 13 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 4 (KevShmev)
1 Top 10 Finish
I was over the moon the first time I heard this song in the early 90s. It took some digging for me to find out the name of it, but once I did, In Through the Out Door was an immediate purchase. And it has held up extremely well for me, hence it being ranked 4th on my list. Love it now as much as I ever did.
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The next two, both of which are from the same album!
35 (t) All My Love
Appeared on 13 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 13 (Mladen)
0 Top 10 Finishes
This one didn't quite make the cut for me, but still a good song. The entire instrumental section in the middle, which was so different for them, is the highlight of the song.
35 (t) Fool in the Rain
Appeared on 13 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 4 (KevShmev)
1 Top 10 Finish
I was over the moon the first time I heard this song in the early 90s. It took some digging for me to find out the name of it, but once I did, In Through the Out Door was an immediate purchase. And it has held up extremely well for me, hence it being ranked 4th on my list. Love it now as much as I ever did.
Love both tracks!
I can only imagine that these two 'radio-friendly' tracks ran askew of many fan's expectations, but having digested the entire Zeppelin catalog (via my parents record collection) in the late '80s, both of these songs immediately caught my ear and have stood the test of time.
Plant's voice had clearly changed by this point, but both of these tracks hint at the sustained greatness that would follow in his (still ongoing) solo career).
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NEITHER song made the cut for me, although I do like AOML a lot! No comment on FITR other than :tdwn Just not a fan.
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Catching up from the beginning:
#37. Living Loving Maid (She’s Just A Woman)
#34: All My Love
#10: Nobody's Fault But Mine
Not ranked:
Hey Hey What Can I Do (was initially #40 but it got bumped at the last minute)
Carouselambra
Fool In The Rain
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40 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) #10
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do #16 hey, hey, what can I say? Other than :tup
38 Nobody's Fault But Mine #36 a Zep rarity in that it is a bit repetitive, and could have been cut down a minute or so.
37 Carouselambra NR I so enjoyed Side Two of ‘Door’ during my 'baked' period :D this was in my top 50
35 (t) All My Love #23 just shows the strength of their catalogue that I didn't rate this higher.
35 (t) Fool In The Rain #12 just a fun, feel good song. And Bonham gets to shine during the instrumental!
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So I just listened to the whole In Through The Out Door album last night for the first time. That is a fun little album. Some nice left turns, even if some went too far off the rails (Hot Dog).
All My Love would have gotten my number one vote if I had done a list. At least mentally I would have told you it was my favorite LZ tune. I’ve always loved the atmosphere of this song and the mysterious lyrics. And more keyboards! But the guitar work is really lovely too. Love the instrumental section. Just a great song.
Fool In The Rain also probably would have ranked pretty highly for me. Love the drum groove, and the breakdown in the middle is lots of fun. A feel good tune that I’ve always enjoyed.
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40 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) #11
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do NR
38 Nobody's Fault But Mine #12 (Saw Plant play this live on the Manic Nirvana tour)
37 Carouselambra #37
35 (t) All My Love #34
35 (t) Fool In The Rain #28
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I am always happy to see any sort of appreciation for In through the out door. All my love is especially fantastic. :tup
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I didn't rank none of the 2 songs, but I really like them (as all ITTOD album). I guess I leant more towards to the LZ rock side in my Top 40.
FITR has a great Bonham's groove and the latin/samba section is really creative! All My Love has moving lyrics (about Plant's deceased son) and it has a really nice instrumental solo section, no doubt.
By the way, what's wrong with Hot Dog?! It's really cool and less alien to LZ's sound than the 2 songs above IMO.
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I didn't rank either of three songs, but I know All of My Love just missed the cut. My initial ranking had it around the 40 mark.
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Nobody's Fault didn't quite make my list. Good song that was a staple in their live show. As TAC mentioned, kind of a throwback to LZ I and II. I don't dwell too much on the thought that Zeppelin "ripped" these songs, because they transform the music into something else altogether. But it would've been nice for them to acknowledge these older artists, if only to give their fans a better idea for the importance of the blues/folk tradition in their musical influences.
Carouselambra #29
All My Love #32
Fool In the Rain NR
I feel like my list is shit already since Fool should've made it.
I remember that ITTOD got a very mixed reaction when it first came out, but overall I think the album has aged extremely well. The music is full of color and interest, an about-face from the dark monochrome feel of Presence (their weakest album IMO, outside of Coda). It truly makes me wonder what Zep's next album woulda coulda shoulda been, had things turned out differently. One of the great "what if's?" of rock history.
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By the way, what's wrong with Hot Dog?! It's really cool and less alien to LZ's sound than the 2 songs above IMO.
I almost put it in my top 40. I've always loved it. :biggrin:
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I just commented because it seems the song from LZ's catalogue that it always kind of belittled around here. Maybe because of the title or the lyrics? How it can be worst than The Lemon Song? :D :D
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Fool in the Rain was initially not on my list, but snuck in at #40 with my last re-work.
All of My Love (despite the moving lyrical theme) has never been a song I've enjoyed or appreciated.
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I ranked All My Love at #25 and Fool in the Rain at #35. They are both indelibly imprinted in my brain just from hearing them on the radio so much. Back when the songs were first released as singles, I probably didn’t even know the name of the artist. They were just random radio songs.
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I made a comment before that about Squier owing Page for the opening guitar lick/riff on Lonely In the Night, which to me sounds awfully similar to the beginning of Nobody's Fault But Mine.
Hmmm...not really hearing it, other than an up-down-up pattern that's not unique to either song.
35 (t) All My Love
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35 (t) Fool in the Rain
Stadler has made many comments about Stairway being the ultimate last song at high school dances and a great makeout song. I never went to a dance in high school, so I can't comment on that, but Stairway seems like an awful makeout song. All My Love, on the other hand.... Boom! I had it at #16. Believe it or not, I impressed more than one girl with my ability to perfectly whistle the synth solo. Also, Weird Al failing to write a parody cover called "Olive My Love" (sung at least in part in the voice of Popeye the sailor) has to be one of the biggest regrets of his career. :lol
Fool in the Rain is a WAY COOL song. Great JPJ composition and vocal performance by Plant. I had it at #13.
I can only imagine that these two 'radio-friendly' tracks ran askew of many fan's expectations, but having digested the entire Zeppelin catalog (via my parents record collection) in the late '80s, both of these songs immediately caught my ear and have stood the test of time.
Exactly. I also "discovered" the bulk of Zeppelin's catalog in the second half of the '80s - and not in release order - and I think that greatly influenced my regard for Door (20% of my top 20).
By the way, what's wrong with Hot Dog?! It's really cool and less alien to LZ's sound than the 2 songs above IMO.
I almost put it in my top 40. I've always loved it. :biggrin:
I'll bet anyone a million dollars that Hot Dog made at least one list. :biggrin:
I just commented because it seems the song from LZ's catalogue that it always kind of belittled around here. Maybe because of the title or the lyrics? How it can be worst than The Lemon Song? :D :D
It's not. And HD's lyrics are great!
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40 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) #25
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do #39!
38 Nobody's Fault But Mine #11
37 Carouselambra #24
35 (t) All My Love NR
35 (t) Fool In The Rain NR
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31. Fool In The Rain
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29.
28.
27.
26.
25.
24.
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16. Carouselambra
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8. Hey Hey What Can I Do
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Not Rated:
45. I had "Living Loving Maid (She's Just A Woman)" at 45 (ahead of Heartbreaker). Very good song, there's just better.
52. All My Love
I think Fool In The Rain is a top five Bonham track; I LOVE his drum parts and his feel on that song.
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some additional comments
I never heard anything from 'Presence' until I bought 'Coda' the week it was released, and purchased ‘Presence’ as well. No one other than my fanatical cousin (whose nickname was ‘Led’ btw😀) owned it, and I still have never heard one of its songs on the radio :huh: OK, maybe he played it once when I visited, but I might have been baked x10 that night. I totally agree with that 'monochromic' sounding description given earlier.
Looking at the lyrics for 'Carouselambra' today: certainly would have helped to be able to sing along to this (and others) if the lyrics had been included on the LP. Will add a gripe as to why lyrics were not included on all CD releases. Should have been a no brainer >:(
'Hot Dog': Plant's love of rockabilly certainly came through on 'Door'. Think that maybe the success of 'Crazy Little Thing Called Love' a year earlier had any influence? I also hear Ricky Nielson's 'Hello Marylou, Goodbye Heart' throughout. The lyrics almost sound like a follow up of 'Hey Hey What Can I Do' as well. :D
(and...it did make my list)
sad trivia: we had tickets to see Lynyrd Skynyrd in Detroit before their tragic plane crash in '77. Saw Queen at Joe Louis Arena in September of '80. Had tickets to see Zeppelin there in October '80 before Bonham's death.
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By the way, what's wrong with Hot Dog?! It's really cool and less alien to LZ's sound than the 2 songs above IMO.
I almost put it in my top 40. I've always loved it. :biggrin:
I'll bet anyone a million dollars that Hot Dog made at least one list. :biggrin:
I just commented because it seems the song from LZ's catalogue that it always kind of belittled around here. Maybe because of the title or the lyrics? How it can be worst than The Lemon Song? :D :D
It's not. And HD's lyrics are great!
Well... I'm sorry, but I guess you owe ME a million dollars! :D :D
Now I'm curious about the lyrics, thanks! :tup
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I had Fool In the Rain at 39. Not really type of LZ song I usually like but it is a catchy and enjoyable tune nonetheless.
All My Love - 22 This was one of the songs that stood out to me when I first tried LZ back at highschool (I never cared for blues so bluesy LZ songs took much longer to sink in). Even now, I feel it is a nice song. This might be a case when I am moved by the lyrics and the story behind the song more than by the song itself but I still rate it pretty high.
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35 (t) All My Love
Appeared on 13 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 13 (Mladen)
0 Top 10 Finishes
35 (t) Fool in the Rain
Appeared on 13 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 4 (KevShmev)
1 Top 10 Finish
From where I stand on my love for LZ, this is a really weird countdown so far. Three songs so far, including two today from an album that I personally don't rate or ever listen to. So anyway both unranked and no chance of making my list.
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35 (t) All My Love
Appeared on 13 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 13 (Mladen)
0 Top 10 Finishes
35 (t) Fool in the Rain
Appeared on 13 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 4 (KevShmev)
1 Top 10 Finish
I had All My Love at #27. I know it's a mellowish radio hit song, but I have always liked it. I am not a screechy Plant fan, but I love his vocal here.
I had Fool In The Rain at #15. When this song starts, it barges through the door. It's on! It's one of my favorite Bonham songs in their catalog. Great tune.
Top 40 Not Rated
40.
39
38.
37. Carouselambra
36.
35. Living Loving Maid
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33.
32.
31.
30.
29.
28.
27. All My Love
26.
25. Hey Hey What Can I Do
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20.
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17. Nobody's Fault But Mine
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15. Fool In The Rain
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Get ready because tomorrow three songs will be featured!
I usually try to save the featuring three a day thing for Fridays, but two of the three tomorrow ended up tied, so number 34 and the two that tied at number 32 will be tomorrow. :hat :hat
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Get ready because tomorrow three songs will be featured!
Nice! Which ones?
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Get ready because tomorrow three songs will be featured!
Nice! Which ones?
Hopefully good ones.
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Get ready because tomorrow three songs will be featured!
I usually try to save the featuring three a day thing for Fridays, but two of the three tomorrow ended up tied, so number 34 and the two that tied at number 32 will be tomorrow. :hat :hat
:tup
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Get ready because tomorrow three songs will be featured!
Nice! Which ones?
A couple with some length.
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Tim, length. See Ron Jeremy.
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I do not need to see Ron Jeremy. Ever. :lol
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I do not need to see Ron Jeremy. Ever. :lol
Well, at least *THIS* reference, you fucking know.
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Three for today!
34 In the Light
Appeared on 11 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 2 (WilliamMunny)
3 Top 10 Finishes
I had this at 29, so not too far off from its final resting place in this countdown. I overlooked this one for years, but finally came around to how good it is.
32 (t) Dancing Days
Appeared on 15 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 6 (WilliamMunny)
2 Top 10 Finishes
This always feels like a love or hate song for fans, but I have always dug it. I ranked it 27th. Page's guitar work in this one wins the day.
32 (t) How Many More Times
Appeared on 15 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 9 (KevShmev)
1 Top 10 Finish
On the list of songs I thought would fare a lot better in this, this one is at the top. I am stunned it didn't get more love. Heck, I was the only one to put in the top 10! I love the energy and vibe of this song. One of their very best, IMO.
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In the Light - Not Rated by me. Close, but not quite Top 40 material.
Dancing Days - ugh. 2nd worst song off HotH, imo.
How Many More Times - 14th... but it could've easily been Top 10 material for me. I've always loved this song. But when I look at the list and see the 13 above it, I'm completely comfortable where this sits.
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How Many More Times is easily my favourite from this batch, it ranked #28 for me. Dancing Days just snuck it at #40 as well.
40. Dancing Days
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30. Nobody's Fault But Mine
29.
28. How Many More Times
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As you all know, I personally love LZI, so I'm happy to see the first from this album show up. What a bass line to kick this thing off, just beautiful.
The instrumental section that starts around 2 minutes is just so quintessentially Led Zeppelin I, and I love it. Bohnam's drum fills, Page guitar tone, I just adore it. I'm not sure if they would jam this live, but I'd be surprised if they didn't. Like many other songs on the debut, it's built for it. Some great lyrics from Plant, although not as good as some of the others on the debut, for me.
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Dancing Days (#12) indeed has a wonderful and different guitar work with a truly unique vibe. How Many More Times should made my Top 40... it has a somewhat unexpected arrangement and, it's a bit of a detail, but I love that drums come back at 5:48.
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In The Light is one that I don’t think I’ve heard before. An interesting track that I wasn’t sure about for the first six minutes, but it had a really nice payoff over the last two. This is the second track from this countdown to remind me of The Beatles, which shouldn’t surprise anyone I guess, but I never really thought of LZ as being like them before. Also reminds me of The Doors a bit. It’s a bit tuneless in parts, and you could probably cut down some of the spacey/psychedelic parts to make it a stronger song. But there’s some things here to keep my interest.
Dancing Days is one I know but I’m more familiar with the STP cover (which I like) than with the original. Listening to the original now, I might still prefer the STP version. I do like the off-kilter organ lead on the original. Overall it’s a pretty cool song. I probably would have ranked it fairly highly.
How Many More Times is the type of LZ that I’ve had no interest in before, and listening to it again I still don’t really.
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How Many More Times is the type of LZ that I’ve had no interest in before, and listening to it again I still don’t really.
I weep for you.
You need to barrelhouse all night long!
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Dancing days is a masterpiece. I had it somewhere between #10 and #15. :tup
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The instrumental section that starts around 2 minutes is just so quintessentially Led Zeppelin I, and I love it. Bohnam's drum fills, Page guitar tone, I just adore it. I'm not sure if they would jam this live, but I'd be surprised if they didn't. Like many other songs on the debut, it's built for it. Some great lyrics from Plant, although not as good as some of the others on the debut, for me.
The jam was at the middle of the song:
https://open.spotify.com/track/4OLkBKMl6SDfjulpumMOZ4?si=R0uMVZCOQJqDm1euFGJRbg
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How Many More Times is the type of LZ that I’ve had no interest in before, and listening to it again I still don’t really.
I weep for you.
You need to barrelhouse all night long!
Not even sure what that means!
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Top 40
40.
39
38. Nobody's Fault But Mine
37.
36.
35.
34.
33.
32.
31. Fool In The Rain
30.
29.
28.
27.
26. How Many More Times
25.
24.
23.
22.
21.
20.
19.
18.
17.
16. Carouselambra
15.
14. In The Light
13.
12.
11.
10.
9.
8. Hey Hey What Can I Do
7.
6.
5.
4.
3.
2.
1.
Not Rated:
44. Dancing Days
45. I had "Living Loving Maid (She's Just A Woman)" at 45 (ahead of Heartbreaker). Very good song, there's just better.
52. All My Love
Good batch, even the song that didn't make the list. I've told this story before, and I don't imagine anyone is going to believe it, but I swear by it. I had a guy on my floor at college; weird guy. Never went to class, flunked out in three semesters (would have been two, but his dad pulled strings, futilely) but was a really, really smart guy. Wizard at guitar, and would do others' math homework for pizza. Anyway, he had a cool turntable/stereo, and took it apart and replaced all the resistors and compments with high end parts. He calls me in one day and says "sit there" on a tape "X" on his couch. He turns off the lights, and starts playing "In The Light" on the turntable. The spacial separation was like nothing I've ever heard in my life. You could PLACE each instrument/player in the sound space. Bonham was in the back. Page was front right, moving back and forth. The keys were in the back left, but sometimes in the center front. Plant was largely in the front too. And when the ascending keyboard run would happen, it was really, really cool, almost like the sound was rising up out of the floor.
I was sober; I had just come back from class, so it wasn't that, but it was an experience I have never had before or since (though it's not the only weird experience I've had with Zeppelin's music).
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That's a cool story bro. Legitimately, not is the meme/sarcasm way that comment is typically used.
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Damn that is a cool story. Two things...
1. I wish I could have that experience, it sounds so good. I feel I need to work towards being able to own a set up, in my own home, that I can listen to music like that in.
2. For a weird moment, I wished I was Stadler.
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Damn that is a cool story. Two things...
1. I wish I could have that experience, it sounds so good. I feel I need to work towards being able to own a set up, in my own home, that I can listen to music like that in.
2. For a weird moment, I wished I was Stadler.
Feels good, don't it? :) :) :) :) :)
It really was an experience. We tried other records to varying degrees of success, but even other songs on PG didn't have the same impact. It really opened my eyes to the over-all gift of Jimmy Page beyond just his guitar playing.
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Damn that is a cool story. Two things...
1. I wish I could have that experience, it sounds so good. I feel I need to work towards being able to own a set up, in my own home, that I can listen to music like that in.
2. For a weird moment, I wished I was Stadler.
Whoa, hold on a hot minute now. Let's not get all crazy here! :lol :lol
Luv ya Bill.
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Damn that is a cool story. Two things...
1. I wish I could have that experience, it sounds so good. I feel I need to work towards being able to own a set up, in my own home, that I can listen to music like that in.
2. For a weird moment, I wished I was Stadler.
Feels good, don't it? :) :) :) :) :)
It really was an experience. We tried other records to varying degrees of success, but even other songs on PG didn't have the same impact. It really opened my eyes to the over-all gift of Jimmy Page beyond just his guitar playing.
Not sure good is the word that springs to mind.
What a time to be alive though, the 70s must've been awesome!
Damn that is a cool story. Two things...
1. I wish I could have that experience, it sounds so good. I feel I need to work towards being able to own a set up, in my own home, that I can listen to music like that in.
2. For a weird moment, I wished I was Stadler.
Whoa, hold on a hot minute now. Let's not get all crazy here! :lol :lol
Luv ya Bill.
You think it's bad reading that sentence, just imagine living it! Then again, we've all probably wished we were Stadler at least once :lol
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The 70's were awesome except the plaid slacks and white turtle neck sweaters we were forced to wear. And Ashtrays everywhere.
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34 In the Light
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32 (t) Dancing Days
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32 (t) How Many More Times
I ranked Dancing Days at #33, but I think that might be a dash too high. It's kinda one-note, and there's a sound that starts about halfway through the song (not sure if it's guitar or keys) that's really annoying. That said, it's paced well and catchy.
Didn't rank the other two songs. The first 2 1/2 minutes of In the Light elicit a similar reaction from me as the keyboard/steel guitar intro to Octavarium. The main part of the song is just ok (again, very one-note) until the intro section is revisited, at which point I'm done. I like the main riff of How Many More Times, but it's super repetitive and way longer than it has any right to be.
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34 In the Light Not Ranked.
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32 (t) Dancing Days #26 for me.
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32 (t) How Many More Times # 35 for me.
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34 In the Light
32 (t) Dancing Days
32 (t) How Many More Times
Only DD made the top 40 for me (#7) LOVE this fun song, but the other two came in top 45 for me! ;)
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40 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) #25
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do #39!
38 Nobody's Fault But Mine #11
37 Carouselambra #24
35 (t) All My Love NR
35 (t) Fool In The Rain NR
34 In The Light NR
32 (t) Dancing Days #7
32 (t) How Many More Times NR
31 Thank You #3
30 The Ocean NR
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I've told this story before, and I don't imagine anyone is going to believe it, but I swear by it. I had a guy on my floor at college; weird guy. Never went to class, flunked out in three semesters (would have been two, but his dad pulled strings, futilely) but was a really, really smart guy. Wizard at guitar, and would do others' math homework for pizza. Anyway, he had a cool turntable/stereo, and took it apart and replaced all the resistors and compments with high end parts. He calls me in one day and says "sit there" on a tape "X" on his couch. He turns off the lights, and starts playing "In The Light" on the turntable. The spacial separation was like nothing I've ever heard in my life. You could PLACE each instrument/player in the sound space. Bonham was in the back. Page was front right, moving back and forth. The keys were in the back left, but sometimes in the center front. Plant was largely in the front too. And when the ascending keyboard run would happen, it was really, really cool, almost like the sound was rising up out of the floor.
I was sober; I had just come back from class, so it wasn't that, but it was an experience I have never had before or since (though it's not the only weird experience I've had with Zeppelin's music).
:omg: :omg: :omg: SO F'n COOL! :metal
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Great story indeed, Bill! :tup :tup
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34 In the Light
Appeared on 11 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 2 (WilliamMunny)
3 Top 10 Finishes
32 (t) Dancing Days
Appeared on 15 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 6 (WilliamMunny)
2 Top 10 Finishes
32 (t) How Many More Times
Appeared on 15 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 9 (KevShmev)
1 Top 10 Finish
I had In The Light at #3.
Starts off a tad slow, but it more than makes up for it in the end. Just a magical song. One of my all time Zep faves!
I had Dancing Days at #33.
This could've been anywhere from #30-#45 depending on the day. It would make a final Zeppelin playlist for me though.
I had How Many More Times at #18. This is a really cool song that I gad in my Top 20. I don't usually go for early Zeppelin in general, but this is such a standout.
Top 40 Not Rated
40.
39
38.
37. Carouselambra
36.
35. Living Loving Maid
34.
33. Dancing Days
32.
31.
30.
29.
28.
27. All My Love
26.
25. Hey Hey What Can I Do
24.
23.
22.
21.
20.
19.
18. How Many More Times
17. Nobody's Fault But Mine
16.
15. Fool In The Rain
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6.
5.
4.
3. In The Light
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1.
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I had In The Light at #3.
Starts off a tad slow, but it more than makes up for it in the end. Just a magical song. One of my all time Zep faves!
Genuinely surprised by this. Does not strike me as a TAC-type song.
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34 In the Light
Appeared on 11 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 2 (WilliamMunny)
3 Top 10 Finishes
32 (t) Dancing Days
Appeared on 15 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 6 (WilliamMunny)
2 Top 10 Finishes
32 (t) How Many More Times
Appeared on 15 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 9 (KevShmev)
1 Top 10 Finish
Good songs today but none that I ranked. All 3 of these just missed out, I guess if I had spent more time going over my list all 3 may have crept in as they were all very close.
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My ranking:
In the Light - 29
Dancing Days - 17
How Many More Times - 15
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I had In The Light at #3.
Starts off a tad slow, but it more than makes up for it in the end. Just a magical song. One of my all time Zep faves!
Genuinely surprised by this. Does not strike me as a TAC-type song.
Stadler is not the only one to have..um..experiences. ;D
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The wet wick I suppose. Lol
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Except I didn't have to put an X down to show anyone where to sit. :lol
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:lol
Nailed it. Literally.
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Except I didn't have to put an X down to show anyone where to sit. :lol
Gold :lol
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Moving on...
31 Thank You
Appeared on 13 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 3 (DTwwbwMP)
2 Top 10 Finishes
This barely made it for me, landing at 40. Very nice song for sure, but not one that I listen to often. I think I gave it the "well, it is on LZ II" bump.
30 The Ocean
Appeared on 16 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 11 (KevShmev, LudwigVan)
0 Top 10 Finishes
We can talk about air drumming, but this song is one I foot drum every time I hear it. This wasn't one of my favorites early on in my LZ fandom, but became a major one over time. I ranked this 11th.
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Thank You didn't make the cut for me, but I had The Ocean at #33, great song...
40. Dancing Days
39.
38.
37.
36.
35.
34.
33. The Ocean
32.
31.
30. Nobody's Fault But Mine
29.
28. How Many More Times
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The Ocean is my least favorite song on Houses of the holy, and it's still great. That's how amazing that album is.
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34 In the Light NR no 'x' marks the spot experience here ;)
32 (t) Dancing Days #22
32 (t) How Many More Times NR there's always one or two in these countdowns that slip through the cracks. This was certainly one of them.
31 Thank You NR
30 The Ocean #27
Three NRs.....but I just played these five songs in the listed order. What an enjoyable listening session it was.
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Thank You is one of those classic rock staples that I don’t think I’ve ever given much thought. It’s a nice breezy listen. The lyrics are pretty good, and I can appreciate the acoustic guitar and organ interplay. A fine song if probably not one I would have been able to identify as a favorite.
The Ocean is another that I know well enough but never cared for. Listening to it now I quite like the instrumental section at the end though.
If I were picking between these on the ranker, I would have to go with Thank You.
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40 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) #25
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do #39!
38 Nobody's Fault But Mine #11
37 Carouselambra #24
35 (t) All My Love NR
35 (t) Fool In The Rain NR
34 In The Light NR
32 (t) Dancing Days #7
32 (t) How Many More Times NR
31 Thank You #3
30 The Ocean NR
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Except I didn't have to put an X down to show anyone where to sit. :lol
That got a laugh out loud. :)
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Top 40
40.
39
38. Nobody's Fault But Mine
37.
36.
35.
34.
33.
32. The Ocean
31. Fool In The Rain
30.
29.
28.
27.
26. How Many More Times
25.
24.
23.
22.
21.
20.
19.
18.
17.
16. Carouselambra
15.
14. In The Light
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12.
11.
10.
9.
8. Hey Hey What Can I Do
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6.
5.
4.
3.
2.
1.
Not Rated:
44. Dancing Days
45. I had "Living Loving Maid (She's Just A Woman)" at 45 (ahead of Heartbreaker). Very good song, there's just better.
48. Thank You
52. All My Love
I love The Ocean; great tune. Thank You is okay; Howard Stern called it one of the most beautiful songs ever written; I don't know about that.
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31 Thank You
Appeared on 13 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 3 (DTwwbwMP)
2 Top 10 Finishes
30 The Ocean
Appeared on 16 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 11 (KevShmev, LudwigVan)
0 Top 10 Finishes
I had Thank You at #38. Thank You is one of those songs that, when you hear it, it's like, wow, this is really a great song. Perhaps it was the lack of airplay, or slightly overshadowed on LZII, but it's a quality track for sure.
I had The Ocean at #22. When I started putting together my list, I had this higher up. But it seemed to fall a bit while finishing off my list.
Top 40 Not Rated
40.
39
38. Thank You
37. Carouselambra
36.
35. Living Loving Maid
34.
33. Dancing Days
32.
31.
30.
29.
28.
27. All My Love
26.
25. Hey Hey What Can I Do
24.
23.
22. The Ocean
21.
20.
19.
18. How Many More Times
17. Nobody's Fault But Mine
16.
15. Fool In The Rain
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11.
10.
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6.
5.
4.
3. In The Light
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1.
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Thank You - Not rated. Perhaps my least favorite song from II. Not that it's bad, just my least fave.
The Ocean - snuck in at #37. Good hard rock piece to close out the album. The Doo-Wop part at the end is kinda cheesy, but I can manage through it.
Now that we're 25% of the way through, here's how I've got em (and how DTF got 'em):
40. Fool In The Rain (35)
39.
38.
37. The Ocean (40)
36.
35.
34.
33.
32.
31. Living Loving Maid (She's Just A Woman) (40)
30.
29.
28.
27.
26.
25.
24.
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21.
20.
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18.
17. Hey, Hey, What Can I Do? (39)
16.
15.
14. How Many More Times (32)
13.
12.
11. Carouselambra (37)
10.
9.
8.
7.
6.
5.
4.
3.
2.
1.
Not Rated:
35. All of My Love
34. In the Light
32. Dancing Days
31. Thank You
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31 Thank You
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30 The Ocean
I think my opinion of Thank You has been negatively influenced by all of the Facebook adds for some trinket with the lyrics written out in the shape of a heart or something like that. Just a very "meh" song. I didn't rank it.
I think The Ocean is really clever. I had it at #24 and, in retrospect, I'd have had it higher. I dig the alternating 4/4 and 7/8 rhythm and really love JPJ's bass line in the ending section.
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I think my opinion of Thank You has been negatively influenced by all of the Facebook adds for some trinket with the lyrics written out in the shape of a heart or something like that.
WUT?
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I think my opinion of Thank You has been negatively influenced by all of the Facebook adds for some trinket with the lyrics written out in the shape of a heart or something like that.
WUT?
Facebook ads.
Selling costume jewellery or tchotchkes.
In the shape of a heart.
With Thank You's lyrics.
Which part are you having trouble following?? :lol :lol
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Facebook ads.
Selling costume jewellery or tchotchkes.
In the shape of a heart.
With Thank You's lyrics.
Which part are you having trouble following?? :lol :lol
The bolded I assume.
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:lol
Then again, I had to look up 'tchotchkes', and...I've never once seen one of those ads on Facebook.
(Seen plenty of black dogs.....)
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I had Thank You at #5. This was a favourite of mine back in my high school days, so it gets a high ranking due to nostalgia.
I didn’t rank the Ocean.
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I think my opinion of Thank You has been negatively influenced by all of the Facebook adds for some trinket with the lyrics written out in the shape of a heart or something like that.
WUT?
This:
(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-bnr350xzri/images/stencil/640w/products/54043/107614/SLPT9SRTHT871__52939.1596729628.jpg?c=2)
Anywhere from $13.95 to $129.95 paper or canvas/framed or unframed, etc. This sort of crap shows up in Facebook ads all the time.
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Aw gee, that's nice. ;D
I don't have a facebook.
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Two more today!
29 Communication Breakdown
Appeared on 13 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 9 (twosuitsluke)
2 Top 10 Finishes
Solid tune, but has never been anything special for me at all. Unranked on my list.
28 Houses of the Holy
Appeared on 17 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 9 (DTwwbwMP)
1 Top 10 Finish
This is another that just missed making my list. Good song, but it always felt like it was missing that one little thing that would take it from good to great.
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29 Communication Breakdown
Appeared on 13 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 9 (twosuitsluke)
2 Top 10 Finishes
28 Houses of the Holy
Appeared on 17 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 9 (DTwwbwMP)
1 Top 10 Finish
I had Communication Breakdown as Not Rated. And no this is not one of the two absolute classics I left off my list.
This is the first song so far that I did not list.
I had Houses Of The Holy at #13. Excellent and solid track. It would make any Zep playlist. on 17 lists? Wow, that's pretty consistent.
Top 40 Not Rated
40. Communication Breakdown
39
38. Thank You
37. Carouselambra
36.
35. Living Loving Maid
34.
33. Dancing Days
32.
31.
30.
29.
28.
27. All My Love
26.
25. Hey Hey What Can I Do
24.
23.
22. The Ocean
21.
20.
19.
18. How Many More Times
17. Nobody's Fault But Mine
16.
15. Fool In The Rain
14.
13. Dancing Days
12.
11.
10.
9.
8.
7.
6.
5.
4.
3. In The Light
2.
1.
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29 Communication Breakdown #15 my introduction to the band, so it certainly has a soft spot in that regards.
28 Houses of the Holy NR it's on my favorite Zeppelin album side.....another that slipped through the cracks :facepalm:
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Two more songs that I know pretty well already.
Communication Breakdown - not a lot to say about this one. Just never really liked it. I think I don’t like Plant when he sings like this especially.
Houses of the Holy - gets a bit repetitive by the end, but it’s a hooky song that bops along nicely. Not a ton to say about it, but I like it well enough. Easily the better of these two.
Once again, I can really hear the Beatles influence on both of these tracks, which is just not something I ever thought about with Zeppelin before.
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Both made the first iteration of my list, but both slipped out of the Top 40 in the end when I had to slip a few other songs ahead of them. CB ended up 42; HotH probably would've been in mid 40s.
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Houses of the holy is a great song, but I think it was a good call to leave it off of the album and put it on Physical graffiti instead. It works well on it. :tup
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Houses of the holy is a great song, but I think it was a good call to leave it off of the album and put it on Physical graffiti instead. It works well on it. :tup
I don't know. It'd fit on HOTH just as well.
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Houses of the holy is a great song, but I think it was a good call to leave it off of the album and put it on Physical graffiti instead. It works well on it. :tup
Agreed. I mean, it certainly wouldn't have made or broken either album, but given how 'complete' HOTH feels, I think the title track adds something to PG that it wouldn't have otherwise had.
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40 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) #25
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do #39!
38 Nobody's Fault But Mine #11
37 Carouselambra #24
35 (t) All My Love NR
35 (t) Fool In The Rain NR
34 In The Light NR
32 (t) Dancing Days #7
32 (t) How Many More Times NR
31 Thank You #3
30 The Ocean NR
29 Communication Breakdown #28
28 Houses of the Holy #9
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29 Communication Breakdown
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28 Houses of the Holy
Communication Breakdown was initially a top 2-3 Zep song for me. I had it at #10. A killer song (arguably the first heavy metal song). It gets in, does what it needs to do, does it very well, and doesn't overstay its welcome.
I had Houses at #25. It's a fine song.
Kev, are you going to do a post tomorrow?
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Kev, are you going to do a post tomorrow?
Yes.
I'd love to promise that I will do it at "6:00 on a Christmas morning!", but I highly doubt I will be awake that early. :lol :lol
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My ranking:
Communication Breakdown - #18
Houses of the Holy - #37
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Kev, are you going to do a post tomorrow?
Yes.
I'd love to promise that I will do it at "6:00 on a Christmas morning!", but I highly doubt I will be awake that early. :lol :lol
I see what you did there. Maybe your dreams and day will unite that early? :lol
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I'd love to promise that I will do it at "6:00 on a Christmas morning!", but I highly doubt I will be awake that early. :lol :lol
I sure as heck won't! Merry Christmas.
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Catching up. After a rocky start the last few days' entries have fleshed out my list.
40.
39.
38.
37. Living Loving Maid (She’s Just A Woman)
36.
35.
34. All My Love
33.
32.
31.
30. In The Light
29. Houses of the Holy
28.
27.
26.
25.
24.
23.
22.
21. Thank You
20. Dancing Days
19.
18.
17.
16. How Many More Times
15.
14.
13. The Ocean
12.
11.
10. Nobody’s Fault But Mine
9.
8.
7.
6.
5.
4.
3.
2.
1.
Not ranked:
Hey Hey What Can I Do
Carouselambra
Fool In The Rain
Communication Breakdown
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Today's songs featured one that is my least favorite song of theirs that made the top 40 and what would have been my least favorite if you had asked me about this 25 years ago.
27 Misty Mountain Hop
Appeared on 17 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 4 (Zoom E)
3 Top 10 Finishes
Blech. I used to sorta like this song, but I think I was conditioned to like it because, hey, it is on Led Zeppelin IV, so it has to be good, right? Right? WRONG. Those vocal melodies in the verses are absolutely atrocious. One of the most annoying songs in the history of popular rock music, IMO.
26 Going to California
Appeared on 16 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 4 (WilliamMunny)
2 Top 10 Finishes
On the flip side, despite this also being on IV, I didn't like this song at all for the longest time, but it was like one day I heard it somewhere and thought, "Ya know, this actually is pretty good." And my opinion of it has improved over time as a result, to where I ranked in 23rd here.
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27 Misty Mountain Hop
Appeared on 17 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 4 (Zoom E)
3 Top 10 Finishes
26 Going to California
Appeared on 16 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 4 (WilliamMunny)
2 Top 10 Finishes
I had Misty Mountain Hop as Not Rated. Really does nothing for me.
I had Going To California at #29. Really nice and soothing track. Never really loved it, but I have always liked it a lot.
These are why I actually consider LZ IV their most inconsistent album.
Top 40 Not Rated
40. Communication Breakdown
39. Misty Mountain Hop
38. Thank You
37. Carouselambra
36.
35. Living Loving Maid
34.
33. Dancing Days
32.
31.
30.
29. Going To California
28.
27. All My Love
26.
25. Hey Hey What Can I Do
24.
23.
22. The Ocean
21.
20.
19.
18. How Many More Times
17. Nobody's Fault But Mine
16.
15. Fool In The Rain
14.
13. Dancing Days
12.
11.
10.
9.
8.
7.
6.
5.
4.
3. In The Light
2.
1.
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Interesting, that makes me think a certain other song on Zep IV hasn't made the list. We'll see. I had Misty Mountain Hop at #36 and Going To California at #31.
40.
39.
38.
37. Living Loving Maid (She’s Just A Woman)
36. Misty Mountain Hop
35.
34. All My Love
33.
32.
31. Going To California
30. In The Light
29. Houses of the Holy
28.
27.
26.
25.
24.
23.
22.
21. Thank You
20. Dancing Days
19.
18.
17.
16. How Many More Times
15.
14.
13. The Ocean
12.
11.
10. Nobody’s Fault But Mine
9.
8.
7.
6.
5.
4.
3.
2.
1.
Not ranked:
Hey Hey What Can I Do
Carouselambra
Fool In The Rain
Communication Breakdown
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40 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) #25
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do #39!
38 Nobody's Fault But Mine #11
37 Carouselambra #24
35 (t) All My Love NR
35 (t) Fool In The Rain NR
34 In The Light NR
32 (t) Dancing Days #7
32 (t) How Many More Times NR
31 Thank You #3
30 The Ocean NR
29 Communication Breakdown #28
28 Houses of the Holy #9
27 Misty Mountain Hop #32
26 Going to California #29
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I love Misty, ESPECIALLY the vocals. ;D
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Obviously I love Misty Mountain Hop too, since I ranked it at #4.
I have Going to California at #19. My thoughts on this song are similar to Kev’s. For many years this was the meh song on Zep IV for me, but I’ve since developed quite an appreciation for it.
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Misty Mountain Hop at first wasn't on the list, but then on my listen-thru, I realized it needed to be there. 33 for me.
Going to California... very nice tune, but it's one of 2 songs on IV that didn't make it. It probably would be low 40s in my books.
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Misty Mountain Hop just doesn’t really excite me on any level. Maybe the drum groove a bit. And the Tolkien-inspired lyrics. It’s fine, but not something that stands out for me.
Goin to California is one I’ve always liked, and listening to it again it’s a really great song. Probably would be up pretty high for me if I ranked these.
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Just catching up a little.
Thank you - I ranked at 27.
The Ocean - unranked.
Communication Breakdown - my number 11. Agree with pg that this is probably the first 'heavy metal' track. This is a classic.
Houses of the Holy - I ranked at 28.
Misty Mountain Hop - my number 15. Just has a really cool vibe but obviously doesn't appeal to everyone!
Going to California - unranked. Still a meh song for me after all these years. However the bridge part about half way in is great.
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Said this before, and believe I chewed out for it. I prefer Heart's Battle of Evermore to LZ's.
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Merry Christmas, y'all!
I had MMH at #30. In retrospect, I'd have ranked it lower. The part where Plant sings every note on the quarter note beat is kind of annoying. But it does have some cool spots also.
I had Going to California at #21. It's a really nice acoustic ballad.
My rankings so far (11/15)...
40 ???
39 ???
38 Living Loving Maid (She’s Just a Woman)
37 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do
36 ???
35 ???
34 ???
33 Dancing Days
32 ???
31 ???
30 Misty Mountain Hop
29 ???
28 ???
27 ???
26 ???
25 Houses of the Holy
24 The Ocean
23 ???
22 ???
21 Going to California
20 ???
19 ???
18 ???
17 ???
16 All My Love*
15 ???
14 ???
13 Fool in the Rain
12 ???
11 ???
10 Communication Breakdown
9 ???
8 ???
7 ???
6 ???
5 Carouselambra
4 ???
3 ???
2 ???
1 ???
NOT RANKED:
Nobody's Fault But Mine
In the Light
How Many More Times
Thank You
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I think my opinion of Thank You has been negatively influenced by all of the Facebook adds for some trinket with the lyrics written out in the shape of a heart or something like that.
WUT?
This:
(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-bnr350xzri/images/stencil/640w/products/54043/107614/SLPT9SRTHT871__52939.1596729628.jpg?c=2)
Anywhere from $13.95 to $129.95 paper or canvas/framed or unframed, etc. This sort of crap shows up in Facebook ads all the time.
I’ll draw one of those up for $5.00. PM me. ;)
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We keep it moving...
25 Trampled Under Foot
Appeared on 15 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 4 (DragonAttack)
4 Top 10 Finishes
This was borderline for me, but eventually squeezed in at 38. Always like this one quite a bit.
24 The Rover
Appeared on 16 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 4 (Dave_Manchester, Stadler)
4 Top 10 Finishes
This is one I am fairly ambivalent about. Really like the music, but the melodies feels like it builds to a hook or climax that never happens, giving the song a bit of a meandering effect, like it just bounces along and then ends. Unranked for me.
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Always liked Trampled Under Foot. Great groove, nice main riff, cool keyboard solo. Lyrics are a bit icky, but it’s LZ I guess. This one would have probably been somewhere in the top 20 for me.
The Rover I don’t think I’ve heard apart from the snippets on DT’s cover from ACOS. I like the main riff, and overall it’s a pretty cool song. Feels like Def Leppard borrowed from this for Rock of Ages.
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Both NR for me. I was sad to not be able to put Trampled Under Foot on the list. The Rover has always been one of my least liked songs from PG.
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40 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) #25
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do #39!
38 Nobody's Fault But Mine #11
37 Carouselambra #24
35 (t) All My Love NR
35 (t) Fool In The Rain NR
34 In The Light NR
32 (t) Dancing Days #7
32 (t) How Many More Times NR
31 Thank You #3
30 The Ocean NR
29 Communication Breakdown #28
28 Houses of the Holy #9
27 Misty Mountain Hop #32
26 Going to California #29
25 Trampled Under Foot #6
24 The Rover #26
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Both are unranked for me too.
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Two great songs from Physical graffiti. I think Trampled even made it to my top ten. :tup
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So there's now 9 songs on this list that I did not rank, so I'm looking at what's left on my list, and trying to eyeball which 9 are not going to show up. I think I've figured out which - at least, which are most likely. And I'm ranging between
:-\ :| :sadpanda: :tdwn :angry:
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25 Trampled Under Foot
Appeared on 15 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 4 (DragonAttack)
4 Top 10 Finishes
24 The Rover
Appeared on 16 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 4 (Dave_Manchester, Stadler)
4 Top 10 Finishes
I had Trampled Under Foot at #21
I had The Rover at #7
Off the top of my head at the outset, I figured these two tracks would be reversed. But I gave each a few listens, and Physical Graffiti is an album that I love, and well, these settled into place.
Top 40 Not Rated
40. Communication Breakdown
39. Misty Mountain Hop
38. Thank You
37. Carouselambra
36.
35. Living Loving Maid
34.
33. Dancing Days
32.
31.
30.
29. Going To California
28.
27. All My Love
26.
25. Hey Hey What Can I Do
24.
23.
22. The Ocean
21. Trampled Under Foot
20.
19.
18. How Many More Times
17. Nobody's Fault But Mine
16.
15. Fool In The Rain
14.
13. Dancing Days
12.
11.
10.
9.
8.
7. The Rover
6.
5.
4.
3. In The Light
2.
1.
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So there's now 9 songs on this list that I did not rank, so I'm looking at what's left on my list, and trying to eyeball which 9 are not going to show up. I think I've figured out which - at least, which are most likely. And I'm ranging between
:-\ :| :sadpanda: :tdwn :angry:
Maybe you should've made a better list. ;D
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25 Trampled Under Foot
Appeared on 15 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 4 (DragonAttack) - #19 for me.
4 Top 10 Finishes
24 The Rover
Appeared on 16 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 4 (Dave_Manchester, Stadler) - #18 for me.
4 Top 10 Finishes
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On a related note there's a 'Zep classic' (always makes the greatest hits packages at least) that I'm sure will figure fairly high on this list but which came nowhere near mine. It's one of the few Zeppelin songs I actively dislike. I'll say more when it inevitably comes up.
So it was Trampled Under Foot I was referring to here, a song that just doesn't work for me at all. My least favourite track on Physical Graffiti and not ranked here, natch. One of the rare examples of a song that actually bugs me for some reason. By contrast The Rover roved in at #4, being my favourite track on PG. Fantastic song all round.
40.
39.
38.
37. Living Loving Maid (She’s Just A Woman)
36.
35.
34. All My Love
33.
32.
31.
30. In The Light
29. Houses of the Holy
28.
27.
26.
25.
24.
23.
22.
21. Thank You
20. Dancing Days
19.
18.
17.
16. How Many More Times
15.
14.
13. The Ocean
12.
11.
10. Nobody’s Fault But Mine
9.
8.
7.
6.
5.
4. The Rover
3.
2.
1.
Not ranked:
Hey Hey What Can I Do
Carouselambra
Fool In The Rain
Communication Breakdown
Trampled Under Foot
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Just catching up on the last few days worth of posts. Glad to see Communication Breakdown make an appearance, great song.
Surprised to see The Rover ranked this high. I'm pretty sure it just missed my top 40. Trampled Under Foot is great though and I'd have been happy to see it even higher.
It's become apparent some of my absolute faves aren't going to make the cut.
Here's how my list is shaking out so far...
40. Dancing Days
39.
38.
37. Houses of the Holy
36.
35.
34.
33. The Ocean
32.
31.
30. Nobody's Fault But Mine
29.
28. How Many More Times
27.
26.
25. Misty Mountain Hop
24.
23.
22.
21.
20.
19.
18.
17.
16. Trampled Under Foot
15.
14.
13.
12.
11.
10.
9. Communication Breakdown
8.
7.
6.
5.
4.
3.
2.
1.
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It's become apparent some of my absolute faves aren't going to make the cut.
We're not even halfway through. Keep the faith!
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It's become apparent some of my absolute faves aren't going to make the cut.
We're not even halfway through. Keep the faith!
Ewww, I hate Bon Jovi
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25 Trampled Under Foot
Appeared on 15 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 4 (DragonAttack)
4 Top 10 Finishes
24 The Rover
Appeared on 16 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 4 (Dave_Manchester, Stadler)
4 Top 10 Finishes
Trampled Under Foot - my number 22. Always liked this one, great keyboard and a really cool vibe all around.
The Rover - my number 14. Just a great track.
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It's become apparent some of my absolute faves aren't going to make the cut.
We're not even halfway through. Keep the faith!
Ewww, I hate Bon Jovi
Missed opportunity to reference both Living on a Prayer and Keep the Faith.
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I've always loved The Rover (#7), the drum's groove, the rhythm guitar's swing and the solo section really make the song great!
Trampled Under Foot (#14): that lead clavinet sound is just truly infectious in all the song.
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25 Trampled Under Foot
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24 The Rover
I'm yet another who had the Rover at #7. Excellent song. Great groove and melodies. Kinda surprised it isn't higher. Trampled at #29. It's fine. Another one where I can barely make out the lyrics (other than "talkin' about love").
My rankings so far (13/17)...
40 ???
39 ???
38 Living Loving Maid (She’s Just a Woman)
37 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do
36 ???
35 ???
34 ???
33 Dancing Days
32 ???
31 ???
30 Misty Mountain Hop
29 Trampled Under Foot
28 ???
27 ???
26 ???
25 Houses of the Holy
24 The Ocean
23 ???
22 ???
21 Going to California
20 ???
19 ???
18 ???
17 ???
16 All My Love
15 ???
14 ???
13 Fool in the Rain
12 ???
11 ???
10 Communication Breakdown
9 ???
8 ???
7 The Rover
6 ???
5 Carouselambra
4 ???
3 ???
2 ???
1 ???
NOT RANKED:
Nobody's Fault But Mine
In the Light
How Many More Times
Thank You
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So there's now 9 songs on this list that I did not rank, so I'm looking at what's left on my list, and trying to eyeball which 9 are not going to show up. I think I've figured out which - at least, which are most likely. And I'm ranging between
:-\ :| :sadpanda: :tdwn :angry:
Maybe you should've made a better list. ;D
It would seem my list had more hotter takes than yours (up to this point, at least).
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Two more today...
23 In My Time of Dying
Appeared on 15 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 3 (Dream Team)
7 Top 10 Finishes
Maybe it's because of its length, but I thought this one would do a little better. I ranked it 15th, and I figured it would rank around there or a tough higher, with having an outside shot at the top 10, but it landed at 23. Being left off eight lists didn't help. I think it's a great song, definitely the best from Disc 1 of Physical Graffiti.
22 The Battle of Evermore
Appeared on 17 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (Zoom E, jingle.boy)
4 Top 10 Finishes
This is one of those songs I like, but never think about. I guess because it's from IV, which I rarely listen to anymore due to overplay for certain songs, I never end up listening to this one since it's never been a favorite that I reach for on its own. Good song for sure, but it went unranked for me.
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:hifive: to Zoom E
I really can't pinpoint what it is about Battle of Evermore that makes it my #1 for Zeppelin, and my #3 song all-time. But it's an absolute gem, it stands out on an album that stands out. Sandy Denny's delivery is the perfect complement to Plant's in telling a very well crafted story/interpretation of a piece of Tolkien lore. Flawless.
In My Time of Dying, I rated 9th. It missed 8 lists!?!?!? What in the actual fuq?? 2nd best song on PG.
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I love both of these, especially In my time of dying. I had it in my top ten, I think. It's odd it didn't rank higher.
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In My Time of Dying - did not really enjoy any aspect of this song. 11 minutes of heavy, sludgy blues is just not for me I guess.
I thought I would know Battle of Evermore, but listening to it just now I don’t think I did. There’s some really interesting vocal harmonies here, and the acoustic arrangement sets a nice mood. Overall I think I was a little disappointed because I kept wanting the song to take a turn in another direction at some point but it didn’t. I didn’t totally love it, but it’s an interesting track. Does Plant sing those high harmonies as well, or is that someone else?
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In My Time of Dying - did not really enjoy any aspect of this song. 11 minutes of heavy, sludgy blues is just not for me I guess.
I thought I would know Battle of Evermore, but listening to it just now I don’t think I did. There’s some really interesting vocal harmonies here, and the acoustic arrangement sets a nice mood. Overall I think I was a little disappointed because I kept wanting the song to take a turn in another direction at some point but it didn’t. I didn’t totally love it, but it’s an interesting track. Does Plant sing those high harmonies as well, or is that someone else?
Sandy Denny as the guest vocalist.
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In My Time of Dying - did not really enjoy any aspect of this song. 11 minutes of heavy, sludgy blues is just not for me I guess.
I thought I would know Battle of Evermore, but listening to it just now I don’t think I did. There’s some really interesting vocal harmonies here, and the acoustic arrangement sets a nice mood. Overall I think I was a little disappointed because I kept wanting the song to take a turn in another direction at some point but it didn’t. I didn’t totally love it, but it’s an interesting track. Does Plant sing those high harmonies as well, or is that someone else?
Sandy Denny as the guest vocalist.
Thanks! I thought it sounded a little bit high, but some dudes can work the falsetto!
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Nice to see Battle of Evermore hit two #1s. Was a favorite off IV but fell a bit over the years. Still a top notch song though. I said in the covers thread I love Heart's version and at this point would likely go to that one first.
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Nice to see Battle of Evermore hit two #1s. Was a favorite off IV but fell a bit over the years. Still a top notch song though. I said in the covers thread I love Heart's version and at this point would likely go to that one first.
Nothing wrong with that!
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40 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) #25
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do #39!
38 Nobody's Fault But Mine #11
37 Carouselambra #24
35 (t) All My Love NR
35 (t) Fool In The Rain NR
34 In The Light NR
32 (t) Dancing Days #7
32 (t) How Many More Times NR
31 Thank You #3
30 The Ocean NR
29 Communication Breakdown #28
28 Houses of the Holy #9
27 Misty Mountain Hop #32
26 Going to California #29
25 Trampled Under Foot #6
24 The Rover #26
23 In My Time of Dying NR
22 The Battle of Evermore #15
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:hifive: to Zoom E
I really can't pinpoint what it is about Battle of Evermore that makes it my #1 for Zeppelin, and my #3 song all-time. But it's an absolute gem, it stands out on an album that stands out. Sandy Denny's delivery is the perfect complement to Plant's in telling a very well crafted story/interpretation of a piece of Tolkien lore. Flawless.
In My Time of Dying, I rated 9th. It missed 8 lists!?!?!? What in the actual fuq?? 2nd best song on PG.
Back at you, Jingle :hifive:
I didn’t really know where most songs were going to end up in my list, but I knew that Battle of Evermore would take the top spot. It’s a beauty.
I had In My Time of Dying at #32.
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23 In My Time of Dying
Appeared on 15 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 3 (Dream Team)
7 Top 10 Finishes
22 The Battle of Evermore
Appeared on 17 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (Zoom E, jingle.boy)
4 Top 10 Finishes
I had In My Time Of Dying at #8. Just a fucking monster all the way around.
I had The Battle Of Evermore as Not Rated. Easily one of the worst and most annoying songs in their catalog.
Top 40 Not Rated
40. Communication Breakdown
39. Misty Mountain Hop
38. Thank You The Battle Of Evermore
37. Carouselambra
36.
35. Living Loving Maid
34.
33. Dancing Days
32.
31.
30.
29. Going To California
28.
27. All My Love
26.
25. Hey Hey What Can I Do
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23.
22. The Ocean
21. Trampled Under Foot
20.
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18. How Many More Times
17. Nobody's Fault But Mine
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15. Fool In The Rain
14.
13. Dancing Days
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8. In My Time Of Dying
7. The Rover
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4.
3. In The Light
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I had The Battle Of Evermore as Not Rated. Easily one of the worst and most annoying songs in their catalog.
:omg: :omg: :omg:
TAC....REALLY? "Annoying"? Why?
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The whiney ass vocals. The annoying whatever type of guitar that's playing. I've never liked it, and have never warmed to it.
And it ain't gonna be the first classic track from that album I left off either. ;D
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23 In My Time of Dying
Appeared on 15 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 3 (Dream Team)
7 Top 10 Finishes
22 The Battle of Evermore
Appeared on 17 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (Zoom E, jingle.boy)
4 Top 10 Finishes
In My Time of Dying - my number 24. Great song.
The Battle of Evermore - unranked. Not a big fan of this one, as I said earlier this has been a strange countdown from where I sit. A number of songs have made the top 40 which were not even close for me and this is another one.
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In My Time of Dying didn't rank for me. The Battle of Evermore came in at #27.
40. Dancing Days
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37. Houses of the Holy
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33. The Ocean
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30. Nobody's Fault But Mine
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28. How Many More Times
27. The Battle of Evermore
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25. Misty Mountain Hop
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16. Trampled Under Foot
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9. Communication Breakdown
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In My Time of Dying, I rated 9th. It missed 8 lists!?!?!? What in the actual fuq?? 2nd best song on PG.
Well, tastes I guess
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Touche!
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23 In My Time of Dying
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22 The Battle of Evermore
Cannot stand In My Time of Dying. HOF got it exactly right. "11 minutes of heavy, sludgy blues." Bleh. Not only did I not rank it; I didn't even include it in the list of songs that went into the ranker.
Evermore...based on memory, I ranked it at #11. I then listened to it (I listened through the box set after I submitted my rankings), and it really grated on me, and I kinda agree with Tim about whiny ass vocals. I'd probably still have it in my top 40 because I like a lot of it, but I'd rank it lower if I had a do-over.
My rankings so far (14/19)...
40 ???
39 ???
38 Living Loving Maid (She’s Just a Woman)
37 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do
36 ???
35 ???
34 ???
33 Dancing Days
32 ???
31 ???
30 Misty Mountain Hop
29 Trampled Under Foot
28 ???
27 ???
26 ???
25 Houses of the Holy
24 The Ocean
23 ???
22 ???
21 Going to California
20 ???
19 ???
18 ???
17 ???
16 All My Love
15 ???
14 ???
13 Fool in the Rain
12 ???
11 The Battle of Evermore
10 Communication Breakdown
9 ???
8 ???
7 The Rover
6 ???
5 Carouselambra
4 ???
3 ???
2 ???
1 ???
NOT RANKED:
Nobody's Fault But Mine
In the Light
How Many More Times
Thank You
In My Time of Dying
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Touche!
Sorry, couldn't help myself :lol
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The whiney ass vocals. The annoying whatever type of guitar that's playing. I've never liked it, and have never warmed to it.
And it ain't gonna be the first classic track from that album I left off either. ;D
:corn
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The whiney ass vocals. The annoying whatever type of guitar that's playing. I've never liked it, and have never warmed to it.
And it ain't gonna be the first classic track from that album I left off either. ;D
:corn
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The Battle of Evermore juuuust about crept over the line at #40. Nice lil ditty but I'm not hearing what people who think it's a masterpiece are hearing. In My Time of Dying took the #7 spot. Love it, especially when all the themes come together towards the end.
40. The Battle of Evermore
39.
38.
37. Living Loving Maid (She’s Just A Woman)
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34. All My Love
33.
32.
31.
30. In The Light
29. Houses of the Holy
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21. Thank You
20. Dancing Days
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16. How Many More Times
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13. The Ocean
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10. Nobody’s Fault But Mine
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7. In My Time of Dying
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4. The Rover
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Not ranked:
Hey Hey What Can I Do
Carouselambra
Fool In The Rain
Communication Breakdown
Trampled Under Foot
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Two from II today!
21 What Is and What Should Never Be
Appeared on 16 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 5 (hefdaddy42)
1 Top 10 Finish
This has been my favorite song from II for as long as I can remember, and to this day, it still is. I ranked it 13th. Just a tremendous song and arrangement.
20 Heartbreaker
Appeared on 19 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 6 (kingshmegland)
2 Top 10 Finishes
I know some have said that this song has the definitive rock guitar solo, and I sorta get that. I always joke that Jimmy Page's playing often sounds like he is on the verge of losing the plot, but somehow he manages to keep it together, and the solo in this one embodies that really well. I ranked this 17th.
Sidenote: I did chuckle when I saw that Living Loving Maid finished at 40 and Heartbreaker at 20. :lol :lol
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I had What Is...at #18 and Heartbreaker at #24. Heartbreaker was the biggest 'riser' on my re-listen to the catalogue. Initially I didn't think it would make my list at all.
40. The Battle of Evermore
39.
38.
37. Living Loving Maid (She’s Just A Woman)
36.
35.
34. All My Love
33.
32.
31.
30. In The Light
29. Houses of the Holy
28.
27.
26.
25.
24. Heartbreaker
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22.
21. Thank You
20. Dancing Days
19.
18. What Is And What Should Never Be
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16. How Many More Times
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14.
13. The Ocean
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11.
10. Nobody’s Fault But Mine
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7. In My Time of Dying
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5.
4. The Rover
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2.
1.
Not ranked:
Hey Hey What Can I Do
Carouselambra
Fool In The Rain
Communication Breakdown
Trampled Under Foot
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21 What Is and What Should Never Be
Appeared on 16 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 5 (hefdaddy42)
1 Top 10 Finish
20 Heartbreaker
Appeared on 19 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 6 (kingshmegland)
2 Top 10 Finishes
I had What Is And What Should Never Be at #23. A really cool song that I used to hear a ton on the radio. I'm not a huge Jimmy Page guy, but I like his playing here.
I had Heartbreaker at #16. When preparing for the list, I was pleasantly surprised how much I still enjoyed this. I was a bit shocked it ended up as high on my list as it did.
Top 40 Not Rated
40. Communication Breakdown
39. Misty Mountain Hop
38. Thank You The Battle Of Evermore
37. Carouselambra
36.
35. Living Loving Maid
34.
33. Dancing Days
32.
31.
30.
29. Going To California
28.
27. All My Love
26.
25. Hey Hey What Can I Do
24.
23. What Is And What Should Never Be
22. The Ocean
21. Trampled Under Foot
20.
19.
18. How Many More Times
17. Nobody's Fault But Mine
16. Heartbreaker
15. Fool In The Rain
14.
13. Dancing Days
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8. In My Time Of Dying
7. The Rover
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4.
3. In The Light
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About Heartbreaker/Living Loving Maid, I ranked them at #38/#39 and never heard them together (well, nor separately) on radio!
Also: "Jimmy Page's playing often sounds like he is on the verge of losing the plot, but somehow he manages to keep it together". Perfect description! :tup
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LLM = 31 for me. I actually prefer it over Heartbreaker, but separating these two is like separating We Will Rock You / We Are The Champions.
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And as such, Heartbreaker was #30 for me.
What Is took #35 for me. This was one of the songs I was figuring might not make the collective list.
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Nearly got those two spot on. Had What Is at #20 and Heartbreaker at #23.
40. Dancing Days
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37. Houses of the Holy
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33. The Ocean
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30. Nobody's Fault But Mine
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28. How Many More Times
27. The Battle of Evermore
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25. Misty Mountain Hop
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23. Heartbreaker
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20. What is and What Should Never Be
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16. Trampled Under Foot
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9. Communication Breakdown
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These are both well known tracks for me that sort of typify my ambivalence towards LZ. That sound just doesn’t really excite me. Take the Heartbreaker solo for example. It has merit for sure, and I can definitely see how it was an influential solo for guys like EVH and many others. But it just sounds kind of unpleasant.
I can identify other things in these songs that are cool, like Bonham’s drums on the chorus of What Is and What Should Never Be, or the little tag on the end (though not sure about Plant’s little freestyle there). Heartbreaker has that big memorable main riff. But I don’t think I’d have been high on either if I were ranking these.
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Heartbreaker is great. Such a heavy song. :tup
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40 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) #25
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do #39!
38 Nobody's Fault But Mine #11
37 Carouselambra #24
35 (t) All My Love NR
35 (t) Fool In The Rain NR
34 In The Light NR
32 (t) Dancing Days #7
32 (t) How Many More Times NR
31 Thank You #3
30 The Ocean NR
29 Communication Breakdown #28
28 Houses of the Holy #9
27 Misty Mountain Hop #32
26 Going to California #29
25 Trampled Under Foot #6
24 The Rover #26
23 In My Time of Dying NR
22 The Battle of Evermore #15
21 What Is and What Should Never Be #27
20 Heartbreaker #35
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I have What Is and What Should Never Be at #24 and Heartbreaker at #21, so pretty close to where they ended up on the collective list.
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21 What Is and What Should Never Be
Appeared on 16 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 5 (hefdaddy42)
1 Top 10 Finish
20 Heartbreaker
Appeared on 19 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 6 (kingshmegland)
2 Top 10 Finishes
Two great songs today.
I had What is and What Should Never Be at 19 and Heartbreaker at number 7, just missed the top ranking.
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21 What Is and What Should Never Be
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20 Heartbreaker
Didn't consider WIAWSNB. Really surprised to see it this high. I had Heartbreaker at #15 but wish I had ranked it lower.
My rankings so far (15/21)...
40 ???
39 ???
38 Living Loving Maid (She’s Just a Woman)
37 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do
36 ???
35 ???
34 ???
33 Dancing Days
32 ???
31 ???
30 Misty Mountain Hop
29 Trampled Under Foot
28 ???
27 ???
26 ???
25 Houses of the Holy
24 The Ocean
23 ???
22 ???
21 Going to California
20 ???
19 ???
18 ???
17 ???
16 All My Love
15 Heartbreaker
14 ???
13 Fool in the Rain
12 ???
11 The Battle of Evermore
10 Communication Breakdown
9 ???
8 ???
7 The Rover
6 ???
5 Carouselambra
4 ???
3 ???
2 ???
1 ???
NOT RANKED:
Nobody's Fault But Mine
In the Light
How Many More Times
Thank You
In My Time of Dying
What Is and What Should Never Be
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We move on...
19 Since I’ve Been Loving You
Appeared on 15 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 3 (DragonAttack, Dave_Manchester)
8 Top 10 Finishes
This song, somehow, was a bit of an afterthought for me for a long time, but in the last five years of so, it has become one of the LZ songs I listen to the most. Huge fan now. I ranked it 10th.
18 Ramble On
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 2 (jingle.boy)
4 Top 10 Finishes
Always dug this one a lot. It is very worthy, if for no other reason than the bass playing of John Paul Jones. Granted, he slays it in many songs, but this feels like one of his standouts. I ranked it 25th.
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We move on...
19 Since I’ve Been Loving You
Appeared on 15 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 3 (DragonAttack, Dave_Manchester)
8 Top 10 Finishes
This song, somehow, was a bit of an afterthought for me for a long time, but in the last five years of so, it has become one of the LZ songs I listen to the most. Huge fan now. I ranked it 10th.
18 Ramble On
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 2 (jingle.boy)
4 Top 10 Finishes
Always dug this one a lot. It is very worthy, if for no other reason than the bass playing of John Paul Jones. Granted, he slays it in many songs, but this feels like one of his standouts. I ranked it 25th.
Now we're talking! I'm not a huge fan of Led Zep III, but it is literally saved by Immigrant Song and Since I've Been Loving You. These two songs are so good, and SIBLY made it to #8 for me. It's the emotion this song brings up that I'm in love with, and the beautiful guitar solo, just stunning stuff really.
As for Ramble On, I was always quite lukewarm on it. Surprisingly it's due to my wife that this made it to number 14 for me. She's far from a Led Zeppelin fan but she loves Ramble On and plays it quite often. Actually, she also loves Travelling Riverside Blues, but literally just those two songs :lol
It's all about those plucky little Hobbits, how could you not love it.
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40. Dancing Days
39.
38.
37. Houses of the Holy
36.
35.
34.
33. The Ocean
32.
31.
30. Nobody's Fault But Mine
29.
28. How Many More Times
27. The Battle of Evermore
26.
25. Misty Mountain Hop
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23. Heartbreaker
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20. What is and What Should Never Be
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16. Trampled Under Foot
15.
14. Ramble On
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9. Communication Breakdown
8. Since I've Been Loving You
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Couple of top 10s for me - #8 for Since I've Been Loving You, and #2 (as noted) for Ramble On.
When it comes to the latter, it's just the slow / acoustic buildup (and dat bass!), along with Plant's soft vocal delivery ... it's just perfect. And then they slap you in the face rockin chorus that made me fall in love with the tune from the very first time I played II - more on that experience later when a certain other track (invariably) shows up. That back-and-forth formula of soft/soothing verses and intense/rocking choruses is
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When Since I’ve Been Loving You Started, I thought “oh great another bluesy song,” but man they killed this one. The recording itself just sounds great, as do all of the individual performances. Finally a solo with a tone that I like, and this has to be one of Plant’s finer vocal performances. It all sounds fresh rather than cliche, which is a big pitfall for blues songs in general. I genuinely enjoyed this one.
Ramble On has always been one of the Zeppelin songs that I’ve liked, but Rick Beato’s What Makes This Song Great breakdown gave me a deeper appreciation for it. The instrumentation is great, especially that bass line. But there’s just a lot going on on the track that was cool to see him break down. And of course a good Tolkien reference always helps. This would have been in my top 10 for sure.
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Two fantastic songs. I ranked both very high, especially Since I've been loving you.
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40 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) #25
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do #39!
38 Nobody's Fault But Mine #11
37 Carouselambra #24
35 (t) All My Love NR
35 (t) Fool In The Rain NR
34 In The Light NR
32 (t) Dancing Days #7
32 (t) How Many More Times NR
31 Thank You #3
30 The Ocean NR
29 Communication Breakdown #28
28 Houses of the Holy #9
27 Misty Mountain Hop #32
26 Going to California #29
25 Trampled Under Foot #6
24 The Rover #26
23 In My Time of Dying NR
22 The Battle of Evermore #15
21 What Is and What Should Never Be #27
20 Heartbreaker #35
19 Since I've Been Loving You NR
18 Ramble On #13
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My rankings:
Since I’ve Been Loving You - #36
Ramble On - #28
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19 Since I’ve Been Loving You
Appeared on 15 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 3 (DragonAttack, Dave_Manchester)
8 Top 10 Finishes
18 Ramble On
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 2 (jingle.boy)
4 Top 10 Finishes
I had Since I've Been Loving You as Not Rated. I mean, it could've just as easily been on the list, albeit the tail end. I'm not a huge fan though. You'd have to lap up the Robert Plant on it, and I just don't.
I had Ramble On at #34. I certainly don't consider this a Top 20 LZ track. Feels high to me.
Top 40 Not Rated
40. Communication Breakdown
39. Misty Mountain Hop
38. Thank You The Battle Of Evermore
37. Carouselambra Since I've Been Loving You
36.
35. Living Loving Maid
34. Ramble On
33. Dancing Days
32.
31.
30.
29. Going To California
28.
27. All My Love
26.
25. Hey Hey What Can I Do
24.
23. What Is And What Should Never Be
22. The Ocean
21. Trampled Under Foot
20.
19.
18. How Many More Times
17. Nobody's Fault But Mine
16. Heartbreaker
15. Fool In The Rain
14.
13. Dancing Days
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11.
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9.
8. In My Time Of Dying
7. The Rover
6.
5.
4.
3. In The Light
2.
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The whiney ass vocals. The annoying whatever type of guitar that's playing. I've never liked it, and have never warmed to it.
And it ain't gonna be the first classic track from that album I left off either. ;D
There's a version floating around by the cover band "Get The Led Out"; their thing is, recreating the albums as faithfully as they can, even if it means bringing three or four other musicians on stage. And they don't care about "looking like" the band either. They have a live DVD out, from Red Rocks I think, and they SLAY that song. Really make it special, IMO (https://youtu.be/RGpiNb2z9W4).
(The male singer is Paul Sinclair; the female is Diane DeSantis, Paul's wife, and sadly she passed about a year ago from breast cancer. RIP.)
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The whiney ass vocals. The annoying whatever type of guitar that's playing. I've never liked it, and have never warmed to it.
And it ain't gonna be the first classic track from that album I left off either. ;D
There's a version floating around by the cover band "Get The Led Out"; their thing is, recreating the albums as faithfully as they can, even if it means bringing three or four other musicians on stage. And they don't care about "looking like" the band either. They have a live DVD out, from Red Rocks I think, and they SLAY that song. Really make it special, IMO (https://youtu.be/RGpiNb2z9W4).
(The male singer is Paul Sinclair; the female is Diane DeSantis, Paul's wife, and sadly she passed about a year ago from breast cancer. RIP.)
That's the exact same formula as Classic Albums Live ("note for note; cut for cut"). I've talked about them plenty (for instance, it took 11 people to deliver most of A Night at the Opera (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4WzBOSk6_I)). I've seen them do both Zeppelin II and IV. I'll definitely be checking out that vid, Bill. :tup
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19 Since I’ve Been Loving You
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18 Ramble On
I didn't rank Since I've been Loving You. I just have zero interest in that sort of bluesy anthem. I had Ramble On at 28. Despite the cheesy Lord of the Rings lyrics, it's a solid song, and I agree with Kev's comments about JPJ's performance. Also, a timely selection in light of what James LaBrie posted on FB today: https://fb.watch/hK3cSfI2qZ/ (I guess he did a cover on one of his solo albums?).
My rankings so far (16/23)...
40 ???
39 ???
38 Living Loving Maid (She’s Just a Woman)
37 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do
36 ???
35 ???
34 ???
33 Dancing Days
32 ???
31 ???
30 Misty Mountain Hop
29 Trampled Under Foot
28 Ramble On
27 ???
26 ???
25 Houses of the Holy
24 The Ocean
23 ???
22 ???
21 Going to California
20 ???
19 ???
18 ???
17 ???
16 All My Love
15 Heartbreaker
14 ???
13 Fool in the Rain
12 ???
11 The Battle of Evermore
10 Communication Breakdown
9 ???
8 ???
7 The Rover
6 ???
5 Carouselambra
4 ???
3 ???
2 ???
1 ???
NOT RANKED:
Nobody's Fault But Mine
In the Light
How Many More Times
Thank You
In My Time of Dying
What Is and What Should Never Be
Since I've Been Loving You
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It's Friday, which means we get three songs today, including my number 1! :metal :metal
17 Over the Hills and Far Away
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (KevShmev, DragonAttack)
5 Top 10 Finishes
This has been my favorite LZ song for as long as I can remember, and it still is to this day. Just love everything about it. I thought it would finish a little higher than this, but I blame the three who left it off their lists for that. :P With only five top 10 finishes, though, it looks like a song many really like rather than love.
16 In the Evening
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 6 (nobloodyname)
3 Top 10 Finishes
On the other hand, I was surprised to see this one finish this high. I ranked it 31st and figured it would be top 20-25, but 16? A surprise to me. This is the highest ranked song from In Through the Out Door. Good song for sure.
15 Ten Years Gone
Appeared on 14 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (WilliamMunny)
7 Top 10 Finishes
I ranked this one 12th, so I am a big fan. Being left off seven lists was a bit of a stunner, but seven top 10 finishes, including one number 1 finish, helped push it into the top 15.
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It's Friday, which means we get three songs today, including my number 1! :metal :metal
17 Over the Hills and Far Away
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (KevShmev, DragonAttack)
5 Top 10 Finishes
This has been my favorite LZ song for as long as I can remember, and it still is to this day. Just love everything about it. I thought it would finish a little higher than this, but I blame the three who left it off their lists for that. :P With only five top 10 finishes, though, it looks like a song many really like rather than love.
Page's production skills are never on greater display than on this song. The guitar layering is subtle, impactful, and masterful. JPJ tears this one up too. Great song.
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I had Over The Hills at 24, and Ten Years Gone at 18, so just a tad off on each. Couple of Top 3 songs from each of their respective albums, afaic.
In the Evening was one of my final cuts. Excellent song for sure, but it's not *my* flagship song for IttOD. Which now makes 10 songs here that I didn't rate. :eek Methinks my love for III is going to go largely unrequited. Surely, there has to be one more coming from it - which will probably make it the last one :sadpanda:
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It's Friday, which means we get three songs today, including my number 1! :metal :metal
17 Over the Hills and Far Away
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (KevShmev, DragonAttack)
5 Top 10 Finishes
This has been my favorite LZ song for as long as I can remember, and it still is to this day. Just love everything about it. I thought it would finish a little higher than this, but I blame the three who left it off their lists for that. :P With only five top 10 finishes, though, it looks like a song many really like rather than love.
16 In the Evening
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 6 (nobloodyname)
3 Top 10 Finishes
On the other hand, I was surprised to see this one finish this high. I ranked it 31st and figured it would be top 20-25, but 16? A surprise to me. This is the highest ranked song from In Through the Out Door. Good song for sure.
15 Ten Years Gone
Appeared on 14 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (WilliamMunny)
7 Top 10 Finishes
I ranked this one 12th, so I am a big fan. Being left off seven lists was a bit of a stunner, but seven top 10 finishes, including one number 1 finish, helped push it into the top 15.
Man, "Ten Years Gone" has remained my favorite Zeppelin song for thirty years. From the moment I first heard it, I was taken aback by, well, by everything.
The song has a prog-tinged, borderline-epic arrangement. The guitar parts are like an orchestra in and of themselves, and Plant's lyrics manage to capture something that has hit me in different ways over the years.
All of that said, the live rendition that appears on the Jimmy Page/Black Crowes live album is worth a listen, as it totally captures many of the nuances from the recording (thanks to the three guitars)
I rarely give a second thought to where songs fall on lists—after all, people like what they like. That said, I'm happy this song fared better (at least in part) on the strength of my placement ;D
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I'll confess, I'm one of the three who left Over the Hills off their list. I think it's fine but nowhere near as good as the majority of their catalogue.
I had In the Evening at #29, and would say it's one of the songs I've not listened to nearly as much as anything from their first 6 albums, and therefore is still somewhat growing on me. If I redid thos list in a few years I could see it ranking higher.
Ten Years Gone crept in at #10 for me, such a beautiful song. I remember getting the compilation Early Days/Latter Days, for Christmas back in like 2004 or 2005, from my Dad. That was the first time I heard Ten Years Gone and I loved it almost instantly. It still takes me back to that time, and off course my Dad.
The only two bands my Dad and I both truly loved were Led Zep and The Beatles :heart
These bands always bring me back to him and I wish I could share this with him, as he'd get such a kick out of it, and loved to know how his list would've looked.
40. Dancing Days
39.
38.
37. Houses of the Holy
36.
35.
34.
33. The Ocean
32.
31.
30. Nobody's Fault But Mine
29. In the Evening
28. How Many More Times
27. The Battle of Evermore
26.
25. Misty Mountain Hop
24.
23. Heartbreaker
22.
21.
20. What is and What Should Never Be
19.
18.
17.
16. Trampled Under Foot
15.
14. Ramble On
13.
12.
11.
10. Ten Years Gone
9. Communication Breakdown
8. Since I've Been Loving You
7.
6.
5.
4.
3.
2.
1.
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Over The Hills and Far Away is great, especially when the full band kicks in. Just a great hook. This one probably would have been top 10 for me, maybe top 5.
In The Evening is another that I really like. Love the atmosphere with the keyboards, and the Bonham groove. Also one of Page’s better lead tones. Really like how Zeppelin sounded on this album, and it’s too bad we didn’t get to see them build on that.
Ten Years Gone is one I didn’t know, but I really like it. A lot going on guitar-wise here. A dreamt tune with a lush forest of guitars! Good stuff in today’s tracks.
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I love all of these songs and had them in my top 40. In the evening is especially fantastic. :tup
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40 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) #25
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do #39!
38 Nobody's Fault But Mine #11
37 Carouselambra #24
35 (t) All My Love NR
35 (t) Fool In The Rain NR
34 In The Light NR
32 (t) Dancing Days #7
32 (t) How Many More Times NR
31 Thank You #3
30 The Ocean NR
29 Communication Breakdown #28
28 Houses of the Holy #9
27 Misty Mountain Hop #32
26 Going to California #29
25 Trampled Under Foot #6
24 The Rover #26
23 In My Time of Dying NR
22 The Battle of Evermore #15
21 What Is and What Should Never Be #27
20 Heartbreaker #35
19 Since I've Been Loving You NR
18 Ramble On #13
17 Over the Hills #14
16 In the Evening #12
15 Ten Years Gone #19
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17 Over the Hills and Far Away
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (KevShmev, DragonAttack)
5 Top 10 Finishes
16 In the Evening
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 6 (nobloodyname)
3 Top 10 Finishes
15 Ten Years Gone
Appeared on 14 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (WilliamMunny)
7 Top 10 Finishes
I had Over The Hills And Far Away at #26. Guilty of liking not loving, but I definitely like it. A Classic Radio staple.
I had In The Evening at #10. I was surprised how high I ranked this. I haven't done a serious run through of Zeppelin's catalog in a long time, but this kept killing a bunch of head to head comparisons.
I had Ten Years Gone at #12. Great tune. I wish I could've ranked it higher, but I wouldn't know what else to take out.
Top 40 Not Rated
40. Communication Breakdown
39. Misty Mountain Hop
38. Thank You The Battle Of Evermore
37. Carouselambra Since I've Been Loving You
36.
35. Living Loving Maid
34. Ramble On
33. Dancing Days
32.
31.
30.
29. Going To California
28.
27. All My Love
26. Over The Hills And Far Away
25. Hey Hey What Can I Do
24.
23. What Is And What Should Never Be
22. The Ocean
21. Trampled Under Foot
20.
19.
18. How Many More Times
17. Nobody's Fault But Mine
16. Heartbreaker
15. Fool In The Rain
14.
13. Dancing Days
12. Ten Years Gone
11.
10. In The Evening
9.
8. In My Time Of Dying
7. The Rover
6.
5.
4.
3. In The Light
2.
1.
Into the Top 15. Going to get tight.
I know of two songs I didn't rank that WILL make it, and two songs I ranked that WILL NOT.
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None of these 3 songs made my top 40, although Ten Years Gone was close at #44.
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17 Over the Hills and Far Away
...
16 In the Evening
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15 Ten Years Gone
Hills at 34. The heavy sections are cool, but it's a bit too country to be great.
Evening at 17. Really strong straight-ahead rocker and my 4th highest ranked song from ITTOD.
Ten Years at #6. Neck and neck with another longer song for my favorite on PG.
My rankings so far (19/26)...
40 ???
39 ???
38 Living Loving Maid (She’s Just a Woman)
37 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do
36 ???
35 ???
34 Over the Hills and Far Away
33 Dancing Days
32 ???
31 ???
30 Misty Mountain Hop
29 Trampled Under Foot
28 Ramble On
27 ???
26 ???
25 Houses of the Holy
24 The Ocean
23 ???
22 ???
21 Going to California
20 ???
19 ???
18 ???
17 In the Evening
16 All My Love
15 Heartbreaker
14 ???
13 Fool in the Rain
12 ???
11 The Battle of Evermore
10 Communication Breakdown
9 ???
8 ???
7 The Rover
6 Ten Years Gone
5 Carouselambra
4 ???
3 ???
2 ???
1 ???
NOT RANKED:
Nobody's Fault But Mine
In the Light
How Many More Times
Thank You
In My Time of Dying
What Is and What Should Never Be
Since I've Been Loving You
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Catching up...
I had Since I've Been Loving You at #3. An example of a song I love from a musical style (blues) I generally don't care for very much.
Ramble On didn't make my list. All 9 songs from Zep II made my 50 song shortlist but in the end 3 missed the cut and this was one of them. Great song though.
Over The Hills And Far Away: #38. And right now I can't for the life of me think why I didn't rank it significantly higher.
In The Eeeeeeeevnin': #11. Great riff and I love that short spacey section in the middle.
Ten Years Gone: #25. Cool story about Robert Plant's lyrics to this song, per Wikipedia...
"Let me tell you a little story behind the song "Ten Years Gone" on our new album. I was working my ass off before joining Zeppelin. A lady I really dearly loved said, "Right. It's me or your fans." Not that I had fans, but I said, "I can't stop, I've got to keep going." She's quite content these days, I imagine. She's got a washing machine that works by itself and a little sports car. We wouldn't have anything to say anymore. I could probably relate to her, but she couldn't relate to me. I'd be smiling too much. Ten years gone, I'm afraid. Anyway, there's a gamble for you"
40. The Battle of Evermore
39.
38. Over The Hills And Far Away
37. Living Loving Maid (She’s Just A Woman)
36.
35.
34. All My Love
33.
32.
31.
30. In The Light
29. Houses of the Holy
28.
27.
26.
25.Ten Years Gone
24. Heartbreaker
23.
22.
21. Thank You
20. Dancing Days
19.
18. What Is And What Should Never Be
17.
16. How Many More Times
15.
14.
13. The Ocean
12.
11. In The Evening
10. Nobody’s Fault But Mine
9.
8.
7. In My Time of Dying
6.
5.
4. The Rover
3. Since I've Been Loving You
2.
1.
Not ranked:
Hey Hey What Can I Do
Carouselambra
Fool In The Rain
Communication Breakdown
Trampled Under Foot
Ramble On
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Fascinated to see which songs take up the final 14 spots, because I just tallied up which tunes I for sure thought would make the list that haven't already and the album breakdown looked like this:
I: 3 more to come
II: 1 more
III: 1 more
IV: 4 more
Houses of the Holy: 4 more
PG: 2 more (travesty that it won't be 3)
Presence: 1 more
Those of a mathematical bent will see that adds up to 16. Very curious to see which of my (prior to the list starting) dead-cert predictions haven't made the final cut.
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I don't think I have a solid grasp on the consensus, but my guess would be:
I - 2
II - 1
III - 2
untitled - 4
HOTH - 3
PG - 1
Presence - 1
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By the way, the current album standings are...
1. Physical Graffiti (6 songs - 97 points) - In the Light (#34); Houses of the Holy (#28); Trampled Under Foot (#25); The Rover (#24); In My Time of Dying (#23); Ten Years Gone (#15)
2. Led Zeppelin II (5 songs - 75 points) - Living Loving Maid (#40); Thank You (#31); What Is and What Should Never Be (#21); Heartbreaker (#20); Ramble On (#18)
3. untitled 4th album (3 songs - 48 points) - Misty Mountain Hop (#27); Going to California (#26); The Battle of Evermore (#22)
4. Houses of the Holy (3 songs - 44 points) - Dancing Days (#32T); The Ocean (#30); Over the Hills and Far Away (#17)
5. In Through the Out Door (4 songs - 41 points) - Carouselambra (#37); Fool in the Rain (#35T); All My Love (#35T); In the Evening (#16)
6. Led Zeppelin III (1 song - 22 points) - Since I've Been Loving You (#19)
7. Led Zeppelin (2 songs - 21 points) - How Many More Times (#32T); Communication Breakdown (#29)
8. Presence (1 song - 3 points) - Nobody's Fault But Mine (#38)
9. other (1 song - 2 points) - Hey, Hey, What Can I Do (#39)
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Two a day from now till the end!
Here are today's:
14 The Song Remains the Same
Appeared on 16 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 2 (nobloodyname, pg1067)
6 Top 10 Finishes
As much as I love Houses of the Holy, this is one of the two songs from it that I can often take or leave. Musically, it is great, but Plant's sped-up vocals make him sound like he is singing with helium at times, which I do not like. Unranked for me.
13 Good Times Bad Times
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 4 (twosuitsluke)
3 Top 10 Finishes
This is on that "best track 1s from a band's first album" list. Great, great song. Short and sweet, it kicks your ass in short order. I ranked it 16th.
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From here on in, I can't envision a scenario where there's a song I don't have ranked. Clearly, that's only going to be the case for the group en masse for 2 songs, but I don't think I have any more hot takes. We'll see
Song Remains The Same - What a great opening to follow up IV with. I love the opening riff, but even more importantly, JPJ's bass runs are amazing. Was 21st for me.
Good Times Bad Times - the legend of the double bass drum done with one foot. What Bonham does with a 8-piece drum set (+ cowbell) here is simply astonishing. 23rd on my list
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Yes, the drumming on Good Times Bad Times, specially from the intro to the chorus, is nothing short of amazing. Something like you have heard the drumming on Rush's Anthem at the time, both really groundbreaking.
And... happy new year for everyone here!! :metal
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I was never too crazy about Good times bad times. Or any song from the debut, actually.
The Song remains the same, on the other hand, is remarkable. Plant's vocals are so odd that they make the song special and kooky. I couldn't imagine it with "normal" vocals. :lol
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The Song Remains the Same is one that I recognized when I heard it but couldn’t have told you anything about before then. Really liked it though. Has an almost proggy guitar figure that I could see being from a Yes or Genesis song. The helium vocal parts are pretty odd though.
Good Times Bad Times is one I’ve heard a million times and never had much interest in. It’s fine, and listening to it now outside the context of radio I can appreciate it a little bit more. Just never one that I paid much attention to before.
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I have Good Times Bad Times at #27. i didn’t rank The Song Remains the Same.
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14 The Song Remains the Same
Appeared on 16 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 2 (nobloodyname, pg1067)
6 Top 10 Finishes
13 Good Times Bad Times
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 4 (twosuitsluke)
3 Top 10 Finishes
I had The Song Remains The Same at #6. I love this song. It's so energetic and just feels huge.
I had Good Times Bad Times as Not Rated. I kind of forgot about this one, or maybe I took it for granted. I think songs #35-#45 are all pretty interchangeable, and this sits right in that group, unfortunately on the outside looking in.
Top 40 Not Rated
40. Communication Breakdown
39. Misty Mountain Hop
38. Thank You The Battle Of Evermore
37. Carouselambra Since I've Been Loving You
36. Good Times Bad Times
35. Living Loving Maid
34. Ramble On
33. Dancing Days
32.
31.
30.
29. Going To California
28.
27. All My Love
26. Over The Hills And Far Away
25. Hey Hey What Can I Do
24.
23. What Is And What Should Never Be
22. The Ocean
21. Trampled Under Foot
20.
19.
18. How Many More Times
17. Nobody's Fault But Mine
16. Heartbreaker
15. Fool In The Rain
14.
13. Dancing Days
12. Ten Years Gone
11.
10. In The Evening
9.
8. In My Time Of Dying
7. The Rover
6. The Song Remains The Same
5.
4.
3. In The Light
2.
1.
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I'd have bet good money that Song would make the top ten. Since I was one of the high rankers, I obviously think it's awesome. The only possible negative is the "push push" line (which is not unique to this song).
I had Good Times at #27. Really good early Zep song.
The Song remains the same, on the other hand, is remarkable.
I had The Song Remains The Same at #6. I love this song. It's so energetic and just feels huge.
Agree and agree!
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40 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) #25
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do #39!
38 Nobody's Fault But Mine #11
37 Carouselambra #24
35 (t) All My Love NR
35 (t) Fool In The Rain NR
34 In The Light NR
32 (t) Dancing Days #7
32 (t) How Many More Times NR
31 Thank You #3
30 The Ocean NR
29 Communication Breakdown #28
28 Houses of the Holy #9
27 Misty Mountain Hop #32
26 Going to California #29
25 Trampled Under Foot #6
24 The Rover #26
23 In My Time of Dying NR
22 The Battle of Evermore #15
21 What Is and What Should Never Be #27
20 Heartbreaker #35
19 Since I've Been Loving You NR
18 Ramble On #13
17 Over the Hills #14
16 In the Evening #12
15 Ten Years Gone #19
14 The Song Remains the Same #10
13 Good Times Bad Times #38
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14 The Song Remains the Same
Appeared on 16 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 2 (nobloodyname, pg1067)
6 Top 10 Finishes
As much as I love Houses of the Holy, this is one of the two songs from it that I can often take or leave. Musically, it is great, but Plant's sped-up vocals make him sound like he is singing with helium at times, which I do not like. Unranked for me.
This ranking of this song for me (#10) is basically for the LIVE rendition, which IMO is SOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH BETTER than the album version. Always a highlight for me when I saw them in '73, '75 & '77 :metal
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You must be the oldest DTF'r then, unless you saw them when you were 11!
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You must be the oldest DTF'r then, unless you saw them when you were 11!
Will turn 63 on 1/19! Zep was first concert 7/29/73! My 50th yr of concerts to be documented right here on DTF starting Monday! :tup
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I had The Song Remains the Same at #22.
Good Times Bad Times was at #4 though, boy do I love this song. It's where it all started and what a statement to start your career. I unashamedly love everything about LZ I and this just says so much about the bands intent. I love to sing along to this song, and the iconic bass pedal magic Bonham was exhibiting, just breath taking. At the time I heard it I didn't really understand what I was hearing, or that he was doing it with a single bass pedal. I often air drum along to music, especially the kick drum patterns, but I've no clue how he was really able to do this.
I always remember my Dad telling me about hanging out with his best friend not long after LZ I dropped. His best friend was a drummer and was attempting to learn how to play the intro, he said he was there for hours and hours trying to get it. Don't think he ever really mastered it, but he got somewhere close.
Anyway, glad to see it make an appearance this high :tup
40. Dancing Days
39.
38.
37. Houses of the Holy
36.
35.
34.
33. The Ocean
32.
31.
30. Nobody's Fault But Mine
29. In the Evening
28. How Many More Times
27. The Battle of Evermore
26.
25. Misty Mountain Hop
24.
23. Heartbreaker
22. The Song Remains the Same
21.
20. What is and What Should Never Be
19.
18.
17.
16. Trampled Under Foot
15.
14. Ramble On
13.
12.
11.
10. Ten Years Gone
9. Communication Breakdown
8. Since I've Been Loving You
7.
6.
5.
4. Good Times Bad Times
3.
2.
1.
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Happy New Year, LZ fans, and here are the two that just missed the top 10.
12 Babe I’m Gonna Leave You
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (twosuitsluke, Cool Chris)
7 Top 10 Finishes
I had this at 22. Damn good song for sure, but Plant repeating "Babe" 331 times at the start of the second verse has always bugged me a little, otherwise this might have been a top 10 song for me. Just one of those weird things that always leaves a mark for me.
11 Whole Lotta Love
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 2 (hefdaddy42)
7 Top 10 Finishes
This is one of those overplayed songs I still think is great, but my affection for it isn't quite what it was in years past. I ranked in 21st. Some of Plant's vocalisms are a bit much in the middle section - do I really need to hear Plant making noises like he is a 17-year old getting his first blow job? :lol
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Whole Lotta Love. Dat opening riff. Just putting it on now brings me back to 17-year old jingle.boy discovering it for the first time, baked out of my mind, home alone having just got the CD courtesy of my Columbia House Subscription. Dropping the disc in, closing it, putting the volume as loud as my speakers could handle, and just sitting at my desk chair in the middle of my room to experience it. The sigh, the riff, the bass coming in. To say it was an "experience" is an understatement. The psychedelic middle section drags on too much (when you're not high), and is the reason I don't rate it terribly high. I had it at 23.
Babe... great tune, but it's never the song I think of when I think of LZ I. There are others that come to mind first, even if I prefer this over them. I had it at 32... though I'm thinking it might have deserved to be higher.
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Two great songs but Whole Lotta Love has lost it's luster for me from overplay. That riff is undeniable though, just a killer tune.
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Cool Chris...
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Well after all my fawning over Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, and Led Zeppelin I in general, I'm actually surprised it rated this highly and that 6 others had it in their top 10; I'd thought I was starting to go mad! Yep, this song is everything to me. It reminds me of my Dad, my older brother, being a kid, losing a lover, good times, bad times, all of it.
As for Whole Lotta Love, I had it at #12. Led Zeppelin I was my first album and general full song experience, bit actually Whole Lotta Love would actually the Led Zep music I ever would've heard. In the UK we had a show called Top of the Pops (I have no clue if this show was ever even broadcast outside of the UK) and the main riff from Whole Lotta Love was used in the intro theme. It was always just the Top of the Pops theme to me, and it blew my mind when I realised it was actually Led Zeppelin all along. Anyone else (other than Ariich :lol ) first hear Whole Lotta Love that way?
40. Dancing Days
39.
38.
37. Houses of the Holy
36.
35.
34.
33. The Ocean
32.
31.
30. Nobody's Fault But Mine
29. In the Evening
28. How Many More Times
27. The Battle of Evermore
26.
25. Misty Mountain Hop
24.
23. Heartbreaker
22. The Song Remains the Same
21.
20. What is and What Should Never Be
19.
18.
17.
16. Trampled Under Foot
15.
14. Ramble On
13.
12. Whole Lotta Love
11.
10. Ten Years Gone
9. Communication Breakdown
8. Since I've Been Loving You
7.
6.
5.
4. Good Times Bad Times
3.
2.
1. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
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Since I've Been Loving You (#17) is an amazing song with production values ahead of its time - including ahead of the rest of LZ1! Its arrangement is incredible, with a lot of layers that give that imense acoustic and heavy sound for the song.
Whole Lotta Love (#28) has one of the greatest riffs in the metal history but that middle part indeed was a bit too much since a looong time ago.
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Heading into the Top 10, here's where things stand. Bolded, I'm certain are still to come; RED are apparently my hot-takes.
40. Fool In The Rain (35)
39. TBD
38. TBD
37. The Ocean (40)
36. TBD
35. What is and What Should Never Be (21)
34. TBD
33. Misty Mountain Hop (27)
32. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You (10)
31. Living Loving Maid (She's Just A Woman) (40)
30. Heartbreaker (20)
29. TBD
28. TBD
27. TBD
26. TBD
25. TBD
24. Over the Hills and Far Away (17)
23. Good Times, Bad Times (13)
22. Whole Lotta Love (11)
21. The Song Remains The Same (14)
20. TBD
19. TBD
18. Ten Years Gone (15)
17. Hey, Hey, What Can I Do? (39)
16. TBD
15. TBD
14. How Many More Times (32)
13. TBD
12. TBD
11. Carouselambra (37)
10. TBD
9. In My Time of Dying (23)
8. Since I've Been Loving You (19)
7. TBD
6. TBD
5. TBD
4. TBD
3. TBD
2. Ramble On (18)
1. Battle of Evermore (22)
Not Rated:
38. Nobody's Fault But Mine
35. All of My Love
34. In the Light
32. Dancing Days
31. Thank You
29. Communication Breakdown
28. Houses of the Holy
26. Going to California
25. Trampled Under Foot
24. The Rover
16. In the Evening
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Anyone else (other than Ariich :lol ) first hear Whole Lotta Love that way?
Yup! And Phantom of the Opera from the Lucozade advert :biggrin:
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Heading into the Top 10, here's where things stand. Bolded, I'm certain are still to come; RED are apparently my hot-takes.
I am a bit surprised that you think one of your bolded is still coming. I won't say which one, but I will say that you are otherwise pretty on the money, except that you left off your list a major classic that is still to come. Trying to avoid spoilers, so I will leave it at that.
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Didn't rank Babe. There's some cool stuff in there, but it should be about half the length. Whole Lotta Love at #9. Had I taken live versions into account, it'd have been lower.
My rankings so far (22/30)...
40 ???
39 ???
38 Living Loving Maid (She’s Just a Woman)
37 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do
36 ???
35 ???
34 Over the Hills and Far Away
33 Dancing Days
32 ???
31 ???
30 Misty Mountain Hop
29 Trampled Under Foot
28 Ramble On
27 Good Times Bad Times
26 ???
25 Houses of the Holy
24 The Ocean
23 ???
22 ???
21 Going to California
20 ???
19 ???
18 ???
17 In the Evening
16 All My Love
15 Heartbreaker
14 ???
13 Fool in the Rain
12 ???
11 The Battle of Evermore
10 Communication Breakdown
9 Whole Lotta Love
8 ???
7 The Rover
6 Ten Years Gone
5 Carouselambra
4 ???
3 ???
2 The Song Remains the Same
1 ???
NOT RANKED:
Nobody's Fault But Mine
In the Light
How Many More Times
Thank You
In My Time of Dying
What Is and What Should Never Be
Since I've Been Loving You
Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
I'm guessing my 1, 3, 4, 8, 12, 23, 31 and 32 picks are locks for the top 10. My 26 and 40 have ZERO chance of making it. Beyond that, I'm not sure about the last 2 top 10 spots.
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Babe I'm Gonna Leave You always had a mystique about it for me. LZI was one of the couple LZ albums I never owned, and it would only get played on the radio sparingly. So when it did come on, it was a treat, unlike the slew of other hits that got played every hour. It's not their best song, or the one I'd use to introduce someone to the band. But it's my favorite.
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12 Babe I’m Gonna Leave You
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (twosuitsluke, Cool Chris)
7 Top 10 Finishes
11 Whole Lotta Love
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 2 (hefdaddy42)
7 Top 10 Finishes
I had Babe I'm Gonna Leave You at #5. I really love this song, especially once it gets going. #5 may be a tad high, but it's still always been one of my favorites.
I had Whole Lotta Love as Not Rated. I remember hearing this and it was always the guitar solo that blew me away, as short as it is. The opening riff is epic, but everything else about the song kind of blows. This is the first of the two Classics that I left off my list. The next one apparently made the Top 10.
Top 40 Not Rated
40. Communication Breakdown
39. Misty Mountain Hop
38. Thank You The Battle Of Evermore
37. Carouselambra Since I've Been Loving You
36. Good Times Bad Times
35. Living Loving Maid Whole Lotta Love
34. Ramble On
33. Dancing Days
32.
31.
30.
29. Going To California
28.
27. All My Love
26. Over The Hills And Far Away
25. Hey Hey What Can I Do
24.
23. What Is And What Should Never Be
22. The Ocean
21. Trampled Under Foot
20.
19.
18. How Many More Times
17. Nobody's Fault But Mine
16. Heartbreaker
15. Fool In The Rain
14.
13. Dancing Days
12. Ten Years Gone
11.
10. In The Evening
9.
8. In My Time Of Dying
7. The Rover
6. The Song Remains The Same
5. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
4.
3. In The Light
2.
1.
I almost have my entire Top 10 represented. I know my #1 and #9 will make it, but there's no way my #2 and #4 make it.
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Babe I’m Gonna Leave You - this one is ok, but I’m a bit surprised it finished so high.
Whole Lotta Love - never really liked this song.
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Happy New year, everybody. :metal
I'm not a fan of either of these songs. ;D
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40 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) #25
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do #39!
38 Nobody's Fault But Mine #11
37 Carouselambra #24
35 (t) All My Love NR
35 (t) Fool In The Rain NR
34 In The Light NR
32 (t) Dancing Days #7
32 (t) How Many More Times NR
31 Thank You #3
30 The Ocean NR
29 Communication Breakdown #28
28 Houses of the Holy #9
27 Misty Mountain Hop #32
26 Going to California #29
25 Trampled Under Foot #6
24 The Rover #26
23 In My Time of Dying NR
22 The Battle of Evermore #15
21 What Is and What Should Never Be #27
20 Heartbreaker #35
19 Since I've Been Loving You NR
18 Ramble On #13
17 Over the Hills #14
16 In the Evening #12
15 Ten Years Gone #19
14 The Song Remains the Same #10
13 Good Times Bad Times #38
12 Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You #20
11 Whole Lotta Love #8
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I have Babe I’m Gonna Leave You at #12 and Whole Lotta Love at #8.
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Since I've Been Loving You - unlike so many bluesy slogs (such as In My Time of Dying), I really like this one. I had it at 7. One of the two great songs on III (along with 7 really good ones and one of the worst songs they ever recorded).
Whole Lotta Love - n. 23 for me. Not in the same league as the best LZ rockers (which, I believe, are yet to be revealed) but still a classic.
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We kick off the top 10 with two majorly overplayed classics.
10 Black Dog
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (Dream Team)
7 Top 10 Finishes
Even though I never listen to this song on purpose anymore, I ranked it 34th because I felt like it needed to be on my top 40. I probably should have left it off because a quick glance shows that several songs I left off are ones I simply like more at this juncture. A major classic for sure, just not one I ever want to hear again. And to be honest, even in my LZ honeymoon phase, I was never that overly wild about this one.
09 Rock and Roll
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 4 (DTwwbwMP)
5 Top 10 Finishes
Like Black Dog, I ranked this one because I felt like it needed to be on there, but this one feels a bit more deserving, as I did used to like this song a lot, and I will still on very rare occasions turn it on, probably to marvel at Bonham's performance. I ranked it 36th.
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I feel it's almost impossible to rank songs like those fairly.
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10 Black Dog
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (Dream Team)
7 Top 10 Finishes
09 Rock and Roll
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 4 (DTwwbwMP)
5 Top 10 Finishes
I had Black Dog as Not Rated. This, along with Whole Lotta Love, were the two monster classics I left off. I feel like Kevin...I never loved this song, and if I were to make a Zep playlist, I'd leave this one off.
I had Rock And Roll at #30. I'll take this one though. It's way more easier on the ears than its predecessor.
Top 40 Not Rated
40. Communication Breakdown
39. Misty Mountain Hop
38. Thank You The Battle Of Evermore
37. Carouselambra Since I've Been Loving You
36. Good Times Bad Times
35. Living Loving Maid Whole Lotta Love
34. Ramble On Black Dog
33. Dancing Days
32.
31.
30. Rock And Roll
29. Going To California
28.
27. All My Love
26. Over The Hills And Far Away
25. Hey Hey What Can I Do
24.
23. What Is And What Should Never Be
22. The Ocean
21. Trampled Under Foot
20.
19.
18. How Many More Times
17. Nobody's Fault But Mine
16. Heartbreaker
15. Fool In The Rain
14.
13. Dancing Days
12. Ten Years Gone
11.
10. In The Evening
9.
8. In My Time Of Dying
7. The Rover
6. The Song Remains The Same
5. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
4.
3. In The Light
2.
1.
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I didn't rank Black Dog even though it is my second favorite LZ rocker (behind the one that is yet to be featured). It would have been somewhere around 10-15 but I wasn't at my sharpest when doing the list (which has been more of a rule than an exception lately) - I just confused it with Hot Dog and deleted it from the preliminary selection so it didn't even go to the ranker. An embarrassing mistake.
Rock and Roll - I didn't rank it either but this time, it was on purpose and in full awareness of what I was doing. It's a brilliant song in many ways but I just don't dig this kind of old times rock and roll vibe.
As I got into LZ in late 90's and I never listened to radio all that much, songs being "overplayed" has never really been an issue for me. I didn't even know Stairway and the other LZ most famous songs until I was 17 or so.
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I'm still not tired of these. Two great songs. :metal
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Black Dog... this song single-handedly changed my life in 1986 (I'm not being hyperbolic whatsoever). It took me from a top-40/pop radio listening kid with not musical cares, to someone deeply passionate and obsessed about music. Now, with that said, it's not a favored song by me nowadays. The call/response structure of the vocals and music just didn't age well with me. The time changes are a little jarring as well. Still, I can't deny how impactful this song was to me, so I had to include it at #38.
Rock 'n' Roll... now that on the other hand is a true classic that has not lost any of its appeal over time. #16.
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10 Black Dog
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09 Rock and Roll
I had Black Dog at #8. I love the complex rhythm of the main figure. All four members are excellent on this one. I had Rock and Roll at #12. It's solid and strong all the way through. When you open an album with these two songs, you know you're in for something special.
My rankings so far (24/32)...
40 ???
39 ???
38 Living Loving Maid (She’s Just a Woman)
37 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do
36 ???
35 ???
34 Over the Hills and Far Away
33 Dancing Days
32 ???
31 ???
30 Misty Mountain Hop
29 Trampled Under Foot
28 Ramble On
27 Good Times Bad Times
26 ???
25 Houses of the Holy
24 The Ocean
23 ???
22 ???
21 Going to California
20 ???
19 ???
18 ???
17 In the Evening
16 All My Love
15 Heartbreaker
14 ???
13 Fool in the Rain
12 Rock and Roll
11 The Battle of Evermore
10 Communication Breakdown
9 Whole Lotta Love
8 Black Dog
7 The Rover
6 Ten Years Gone
5 Carouselambra
4 ???
3 ???
2 The Song Remains the Same
1 ???
NOT RANKED:
Nobody's Fault But Mine
In the Light
How Many More Times
Thank You
In My Time of Dying
What Is and What Should Never Be
Since I've Been Loving You
Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
I'm almost positive about 7 of the 8 remaining songs, but the other one has me completely stumped.
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Two songs that never really interested me before. They both are played a lot, and maybe that’s part of it, but I’m not sure I ever paid that much attention to them either.
Black Dog does have some really cool guitar work, though it does sound a bit close to a train wreck in places. Always reminded how they had to track stuff live as a band in the studio back then, which makes it more impressive. Still, just not a song I ever really connected with. I do kind of like the “hey baby” part.
Rock and Roll is more notable for the persistent drum part that really drives it. I also like the “Little Richard” type piano that kicks in mid-song. It’s basically a souped up 50s rock tune or something. Fine for what it is but not my favorite thing to listen to.
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40 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) #25
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do #39!
38 Nobody's Fault But Mine #11
37 Carouselambra #24
35 (t) All My Love NR
35 (t) Fool In The Rain NR
34 In The Light NR
32 (t) Dancing Days #7
32 (t) How Many More Times NR
31 Thank You #3
30 The Ocean NR
29 Communication Breakdown #28
28 Houses of the Holy #9
27 Misty Mountain Hop #32
26 Going to California #29
25 Trampled Under Foot #6
24 The Rover #26
23 In My Time of Dying NR
22 The Battle of Evermore #15
21 What Is and What Should Never Be #27
20 Heartbreaker #35
19 Since I've Been Loving You NR
18 Ramble On #13
17 Over the Hills #14
16 In the Evening #12
15 Ten Years Gone #19
14 The Song Remains the Same #10
13 Good Times Bad Times #38
12 Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You #20
11 Whole Lotta Love #8
10 Black Dog #17
09 Rock & Roll #4
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One year, on a Top <insert whatever #> "classic rock songs of all time" countdown on the local 'go-to' classic rock radio station, Rock 'n' Roll was #1. I think they just wanted to mix things up, rather than it being the obligatory 4th track every single time.
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Growing up I loved those countdowns on my local radio stations. One year I got a poster of the the previous year's Top 1000, had it on my wall for years. Believe song #4 from album #4 was #1 on that list.
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Growing up I loved those countdowns on my local radio stations. One year I got a poster of the the previous year's Top 1000, had it on my wall for years. Believe song #4 from album #4 was #1 on that list.
The reason for the famous joke about that song in Wayne’s World was born from the fact that the song in question was #1 on those lists for about 15 years in a row or more.
Even with a song that great, eventually people get burned out.
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I have Black Dog at #10 and Rock and Roll at #13. I love LZ IV as a complete piece of work, but It was hard to rate the songs individually due to the “HEARD THEM A MILLION TIMES” factor. In the end, it was obvious they needed to be right up there on my list.
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I was going to do five songs at a time, and then life pops up again.... Been enjoying the recaps of everyone's experiences with these. Thanks for sharing.
So, to be brief as possible....
30 The Ocean #27 fun finish to a great album
29 Communication Breakdown #15 my introduction to the band when it was first released
28 Houses of the Holy NR kicks off my favorite LZ album side, and I passed over it. :facepalm:
27 Misty Mountain Hop #19 such a great intro and ending. Maybe a bit overrated here.
26 Going to California #32 on my 8 track, this was the song before ‘Stairway’. So, for a couple of years, other than the radio, I heard this just as often.
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26 Going to California #32 on my 8 track, this was the song before ‘Stairway’. So, for a couple of years, other than the radio, I heard this just as often.
Good memory. I had this on 8 track as well.
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you beat me to it :D (see song 22 below)
25 Trampled Under Foot #4 great driving beat for a great driving song. Inspired Roger Taylor’s ‘I’m In Love With My Car’, so it’s gotta be good, right? ;). On my favorite LZ album side, and Top Five ever (non Queen, that is)
24 The Rover NR I listened to Side One of PG almost as much as Side Two. My third oversight of the countdown. :facepalm:
23 In My Time of Dying #30 short story semi long: In Michigan, February 13, ’99, right after the Clinton impeachment vote, I head out to buy some flowers for Valentine’s Day. It was so nice out that I’d golfed a few holes that morning. Heading NB, I ended up in a white out, driving 5 MPH, and then I saw a jacknifed semi about thirty feet ahead. I put the car in neutral, laid down on my side, got bumped twice, and my car ended up in a gulley of a median. I ran over to the SB railing….and listened to the next 90 or so accidents of the 125 cars hit each other. An hour or so later, I clear out the snow by the exhaust, start my car to warm up, turn my stereo back on, and this song was on the cassette I had been listening to five minutes before this all happened.
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I listened to Sides One and Two last week on a trip. Man, did it seem weird to hear this song while driving.
22 The Battle of Evermore #38 its on IV. ‘nuff said Took a while to get used to hearing it before ‘Stairway’ after all those years of it coming after 'Misty Mountain Hop' https://www.ebay.com/itm/175558815902?hash=item28e01ef09e:g:kjAAAOSwz-ljl3P8
I found this a week or so ago. It has the songs in order, but does the 'fade out / fade in' for Stairway. Ouch!!! https://www.ebay.com/itm/174808883115
21 What Is and What Should Never Be #21 Well, I finally nailed one! :tup
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20 Heartbreaker #14 and I had ‘Living Loving Maid’ at #10.
19 Since I’ve Been Loving You #3 I didn’t own III until the early 80s, and this just struck me at the right time. And I love the semi Janis Joplin style Plant uses here.
18 Ramble On #25 one of those that really benefits from it’s placement after two of my favorites.
17 Over the Hills and Far Away #1 I have a couple of quite fond memories from some great days and evenings in '77 hearing this, and smile to this day when the song is played. Plus, it's Kev's favorite, too! ;) :D
16 In the Evening #35 'In the eeeeeeev nin' indeed!
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15 Ten Years Gone NR I don’t listen to Sides 3 or 4 that often, so this fell through the cracks.
14 The Song Remains The Same NR the one time when the vocals were a bit off putting for me.
13 Good Times Bad Times #11 enjoyed the prior writeups as to the drumming, which added even more to my enjoyment last week
12 Babe I’m Gonna Leave You NR the other three songs on this side made my list, if that counts……Another oversight :facepalm:
11 Whole Lotta Love #8 I had only heard the two 'singles' from LZ I, so this rather blew this then 11 year old away at the time. It kicks axe, and then has that perfect segment when you're baked, and of course that 'woman......you need........loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooove'.....with Bonham then kicking in ever so perfectly. :tup :tup :tup
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Holly shit, DA, that story about the accident is terrifying. It's unbelievable how a song sometimes lines up so terrifyingly.
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My list so far. It seems that as for the cream of the top LZ songs, my tastes are fairly ordinary - I am pretty confident that my n. 1-6, 8.and 16. are in the collective top 8 (but what do I know? - after all, :facepalm: I am the guy who confuses Black Dog with Hot Dog, talks about Since I've been Loving You when the actual song being revealed is Babe I'am Gonna Leave You and doesn't know that you just can't Heartbreaker without Living, Loving...So I fully expect my expectations to be defied again...
The bottom half of my top 40 is a different story obviously - a long patches of songs I rate highly that went unranked by the collective.
40 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman)
39 Fool in the Rain
38 Hot Take
37 HT
36 Over the Hills and Far Away
35 HT
34 Dancing Days
33 How Many More Times
32 HT
31 HT
30 HT
29 HT
28 HT
27 Good Times Bad Times
26 Communication Breakdown
25 HT
24 HT
23 Whole Lotta Love
22 All My Love
21 Heartbreaker
20 Thank You
19 Houses of the Holy
18 The Battle of Evermore
17 In the Evening
16 Dazed and Confused
15 Ramble On
14 The Rover
13 Trampled Under Foot
12 Going to California
11 The Song Remains the Same
10 In the Light
9 Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
8 TBR
7 Since I've Been Loving You
6 TBR
5 TBR
4 TBR
3 TBR
2 TBR
1 TBR
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We get closer to the top...
08 Dazed and Confused
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 2 (Dream Team)
8 Top 10 Finishes
I ranked this 8th, so I nailed it! I liked it in my early fandom days, but it didn't become a major favorite of mine until years later. I have never had any interest in hearing the super long live versions of it (and still don't), as the studio version is already perfect and awesome already.
07 The Rain Song
Appeared on 16 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (nobloodyname)
9 Top 10 Finishes
I ranked this 5th, and I am glad to see that many others here thought just as fondly of it to where it finished this high. Awesome song, with an incredible atmosphere. We know LZ could rock, and their blues influence was obvious from the start, but songs like this took them to a whole new level.
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Dazed and Confused
My n. 16. There are only few things in music more boring than blues or blues rock but LZ, when at their good or best, can do it right. And Dazed and Confused is one of the best examples of that.
The Rain Song
N. 4 for me. Just sublime.
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The Rain Song :heart
If I had participated, this song would definitely be Top 5 for me.
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Can't remember what thread it was in but recently I wrote in these hallowed pages that The Rain Song just transports me. I've no idea where it transports me to but as I soon as I hear those opening notes, I'm no longer present. It's an achingly beautiful song. Number one, though? It was for me on this occasion.
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It's Friday, which means we get three songs today, including my number 1! :metal :metal
17 Over the Hills and Far Away
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (KevShmev, DragonAttack)
5 Top 10 Finishes
This has been my favorite LZ song for as long as I can remember, and it still is to this day. Just love everything about it. I thought it would finish a little higher than this, but I blame the three who left it off their lists for that. :P With only five top 10 finishes, though, it looks like a song many really like rather than love.
16 In the Evening
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 6 (nobloodyname)
3 Top 10 Finishes
On the other hand, I was surprised to see this one finish this high. I ranked it 31st and figured it would be top 20-25, but 16? A surprise to me. This is the highest ranked song from In Through the Out Door. Good song for sure.
15 Ten Years Gone
Appeared on 14 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (WilliamMunny)
7 Top 10 Finishes
I ranked this one 12th, so I am a big fan. Being left off seven lists was a bit of a stunner, but seven top 10 finishes, including one number 1 finish, helped push it into the top 15.
Man, "Ten Years Gone" has remained my favorite Zeppelin song for thirty years. From the moment I first heard it, I was taken aback by, well, by everything.
The song has a prog-tinged, borderline-epic arrangement. The guitar parts are like an orchestra in and of themselves, and Plant's lyrics manage to capture something that has hit me in different ways over the years.
All of that said, the live rendition that appears on the Jimmy Page/Black Crowes live album is worth a listen, as it totally captures many of the nuances from the recording (thanks to the three guitars)
I rarely give a second thought to where songs fall on lists—after all, people like what they like. That said, I'm happy this song fared better (at least in part) on the strength of my placement ;D
My Number 2. I LOVE that song. The guitar parts are, like you said, an orchestra. I don't know how you even think to play that kind of thing.
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Dazed & Confused is a bit schizophrenic for me, and I never enjoyed any of the live 25minute+ renditions of the song. The descending bass line is ok, and the rockin parts are rockin. The solo coming out of the psychedelic part is glorious, but then to reprise back to the slower descending bass line is a bit jarring for me, and takes me out of the moment. This almost didn't make my list, but the parts that I love about the song were strong enough for me to bump a couple other songs out. #36.
The Rain Song - #10. It's funny, I often waffle back and forth between this and the other 'longer' song on HOTH as to which I prefer. I never really knew that the broader consensus was that this was a Top 10 song, and the other didn't even crack the Top 40. huh :dunno:
There's been a lot of song that made 18/21 lists. Did 3 people just, like, troll the group with their submissions and skip most of the 'better' songs? :D
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14 The Song Remains the Same
Appeared on 16 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 2 (nobloodyname, pg1067)
6 Top 10 Finishes
As much as I love Houses of the Holy, this is one of the two songs from it that I can often take or leave. Musically, it is great, but Plant's sped-up vocals make him sound like he is singing with helium at times, which I do not like. Unranked for me.
This ranking of this song for me (#10) is basically for the LIVE rendition, which IMO is SOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH BETTER than the album version. Always a highlight for me when I saw them in '73, '75 & '77 :metal
So my second weird Zeppelin story. I never saw Zeppelin, but I did get to see Page/Plant in New Jersey. My friend Chris was a DIE HARD Zeppelin fan and while I was a fan, it was casual at best. Until that night. One of the best - if not THE best - concert I've ever seen. Michael Lee (RIP) on drums, Charlie Jones (Plant's son-in-law) on bass, and Porl Thompson from the Cure on second guitar. Two moments stood out (the second, during "Calling To You", I've related here and its the moment that secured Plant as one of, if not THE, greatest rock front men ever for me). The first, was The Song Remains The Same. They did a version of that, and I swear I went into a trance. I was relatively sober (I drove, maybe had a couple beers before the show) and yet I was transformed. I forgot where I was, I forgot what I was doing, it was amazing. I remember the song ended and I looked at Chris and he looked at me and I knew he experienced it too; I said to him "what just happened", he said "I don't know", and like men, we never spoke of it again. Haha. It was one of those moments - I've only ever experienced that PLAYING music, and then only once or twice - where the music took on a life of it's own. I've read about that at Zeppelin concerts before, but thought it was BS until I experienced it myself. From then on, while Zeppelin isn't "my favorite band!", they will ALWAYS get the benefit of the doubt for me, and I will always consider them a cut above the general rock scene.
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Growing up I loved those countdowns on my local radio stations. One year I got a poster of the the previous year's Top 1000, had it on my wall for years. Believe song #4 from album #4 was #1 on that list.
The reason for the famous joke about that song in Wayne’s World was born from the fact that the song in question was #1 on those lists for about 15 years in a row or more.
Even with a song that great, eventually people get burned out.
No; I always thought it was a reference to the sort of cliché that when lousy guitar players go into the guitar store they invariably play one of two songs (again, poorly): Stairway or Smoke on the Water. I didn't think it had anything to do with any lists.
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I don't care for Dazed, but The Rain song is a masterpiece. I think I had it at number four, which pleasantly surprised me as well. ;D
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Top 40
40. NO CHANCE OF MAKING THE LIST
39. NCOMTL
38. Nobody's Fault But Mine
37. NCOMTL
36. Babe I'm Going To Leave You
35. Ramble On
34. TBD
33. NCOMTL
32. The Ocean
31. Fool In The Rain
30. NCOMTL
29. In My Time Of Dying
28. In The Evening
27. TBD
26. How Many More Times
25. NCOMTL
24. NCOMTL
23. NCOMTL
22. Good Times, Bad Times
21. Houses Of The Holy
20. NCOMTL
19. TBD
18. NCOMTL
17. TBD
16. Carouselambra
15. What Is And What Should Never Be
14. In The Light
13. NCOMTL
12. TBD
11. Over The Hills And Far Away
10. NCOMTL
9. Misty Mountain Hop
8. Hey Hey What Can I Do
7. The Song Remains The Same
6. Going To California
5. The Rain Song
4. The Rover
3. The Battle Of Evermore
2. Ten Years Gone
1. TBD
Not Rated:
42. Rock And Roll
44. Dancing Days
45. Living Loving Maid (She's Just A Woman)
48. Thank You
51. Heartbreaker
52. All My Love
53. Black Dog
62. Whole Lotta Love
63. Trampled Underfoot
72. Communication Breakdown
74. Dazed And Confused
75. Since I've Been Loving You
Some notes:
- David Coverdale did a KILLER version of "In My Time Of Dying" on the Japanese shows for Coverdale Page.
- Ten Years Gone is probably my favorite Zeppelin song; I put it at two, because the behemoth that is number one cannot be denied. It just means so much to me and to others, that it deserves its place. it's a cliche for a reason.
- Babe, I'm Going To Leave You was a cover; the Joan Baez version was, arguably, the song that brought Page and Plant (spiritually) together and sealed the deal for the "new" Led Zeppelin. It was one of, if not THE, first thing that Page played for Plant upon bringing Plant to his home in 1968.
- Rock and Roll; just missed. I'm not a fan of the "radio tracks" typically; most of my songs are deeper cuts or the epics. This just missed, because I LOVE the rhythm guitar tone and that lick at 3:08 has confounded me for years. I wish I could play it!
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Growing up I loved those countdowns on my local radio stations. One year I got a poster of the the previous year's Top 1000, had it on my wall for years. Believe song #4 from album #4 was #1 on that list.
The reason for the famous joke about that song in Wayne’s World was born from the fact that the song in question was #1 on those lists for about 15 years in a row or more.
Even with a song that great, eventually people get burned out.
No; I always thought it was a reference to the sort of cliché that when lousy guitar players go into the guitar store they invariably play one of two songs (again, poorly): Stairway or Smoke on the Water. I didn't think it had anything to do with any lists.
As someone who has worked in and around music retail for the last 20 years, I can confirm that Stadler is dead-on.
Yes, even today, fifty years after it's release, people still roll into the shop on their lunch break and proceed to spend a half-hour butchering that admittedly tricky intro. As soon as I hear the first three notes of that A minor, I reflexively cringe.
A somewhat related anecdote: I taught guitar for about ten years, and while "Stairway" was one of the songs I kept in my repertoire (under the assumption that I would have to teach it to the droves of budding guitarists)
To my surprise, I never had a single student request to learn it. While I always had at least one student working on "Crazy Train," "Enter Sandman," or "[insert flavor of the month single here]", Stairway never came up—go figure.
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Dazed and Confused is definitely the type of Zeppelin song I never liked before. Kind of a tortured melody, bluesy jam type song. Listening now, some of the heavier parts are cool, and the solo section in the middle when the tempo picks up is cool. Not sure I've ever stuck around long enough with this song to get to this point before. Basically, I like that part but don't like the rest of it at all!
Rain Song is really beautiful. I've only heard it once or twice before, but it really struck me the first time I heard it, and I'm glad this exercise is getting me to revisit it now. It's tremendous, and definitely worthy of a top 10 finish. It probably would have been at least this high if I had done a list, but maybe higher!
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08 Dazed and Confused
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07 The Rain Song
I had Dazed at #31. There's a lot to like about it, but my ultimate ranking ended up being negatively influenced by the interminable live versions. I had Rain at #22. After all the highs of The Song Remains the Same, it's a bit of a letdown, but there's lots of cool guitar work, especially when it FINALLY kicks into gear around the 5:00 mark.
My rankings so far (26/34)...
40 ???
39 ???
38 Living Loving Maid (She’s Just a Woman)
37 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do
36 ???
35 ???
34 Over the Hills and Far Away
33 Dancing Days
32 ???
31 Dazed and Confused
30 Misty Mountain Hop
29 Trampled Under Foot
28 Ramble On
27 Good Times Bad Times
26 ???
25 Houses of the Holy
24 The Ocean
23 ???
22 The Rain Song
21 Going to California
20 ???
19 ???
18 ???
17 In the Evening
16 All My Love
15 Heartbreaker
14 ???
13 Fool in the Rain
12 Rock and Roll
11 The Battle of Evermore
10 Communication Breakdown
9 Whole Lotta Love
8 Black Dog
7 The Rover
6 Ten Years Gone
5 Carouselambra
4 ???
3 ???
2 The Song Remains the Same
1 ???
NOT RANKED:
Nobody's Fault But Mine
In the Light
How Many More Times
Thank You
In My Time of Dying
What Is and What Should Never Be
Since I've Been Loving You
Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
Growing up I loved those countdowns on my local radio stations. One year I got a poster of the the previous year's Top 1000, had it on my wall for years. Believe song #4 from album #4 was #1 on that list.
The reason for the famous joke about that song in Wayne’s World was born from the fact that the song in question was #1 on those lists for about 15 years in a row or more.
Even with a song that great, eventually people get burned out.
No; I always thought it was a reference to the sort of cliché that when lousy guitar players go into the guitar store they invariably play one of two songs (again, poorly): Stairway or Smoke on the Water. I didn't think it had anything to do with any lists.
Yup. Absolutely. The same thing applied at the rehearsal space my band had many years ago.
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40 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) #25
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do #39!
38 Nobody's Fault But Mine #11
37 Carouselambra #24
35 (t) All My Love NR
35 (t) Fool In The Rain NR
34 In The Light NR
32 (t) Dancing Days #7
32 (t) How Many More Times NR
31 Thank You #3
30 The Ocean NR
29 Communication Breakdown #28
28 Houses of the Holy #9
27 Misty Mountain Hop #32
26 Going to California #29
25 Trampled Under Foot #6
24 The Rover #26
23 In My Time of Dying NR
22 The Battle of Evermore #15
21 What Is and What Should Never Be #27
20 Heartbreaker #35
19 Since I've Been Loving You NR
18 Ramble On #13
17 Over the Hills #14
16 In the Evening #12
15 Ten Years Gone #19
14 The Song Remains the Same #10
13 Good Times Bad Times #38
12 Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You #20
11 Whole Lotta Love #8
10 Black Dog #17
09 Rock & Roll #4
08 Dazed and Confused #31
07 The Rain Song #34
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The Rain Song - #10. It's funny, I often waffle back and forth between this and the other 'longer' song on HOTH as to which I prefer. I never really knew that the broader consensus was that this was a Top 10 song, and the other didn't even crack the Top 40. huh :dunno:
There's been a lot of song that made 18/21 lists. Did 3 people just, like, troll the group with their submissions and skip most of the 'better' songs? :D
I am pretty sure the longer song you are talking about did make Top 40. I can hardly envision a universe in which it would not be Top 5 or, at worst, Top 10 song. It not making Top 40 is just ...not possible.
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The Rain Song - #10. It's funny, I often waffle back and forth between this and the other 'longer' song on HOTH as to which I prefer. I never really knew that the broader consensus was that this was a Top 10 song, and the other didn't even crack the Top 40. huh :dunno:
I am pretty sure the longer song you are talking about did make Top 40. I can hardly envision a universe in which it would not be Top 5 or, at worst, Top 10 song. It not making Top 40 is just ...not possible.
Yeah...I assume the song in question will show up in the top 6. I'm pretty certain about 5 of the top 6 (my numbers 1, 3, 4, 23 and 32 songs), but I have no idea what the 6th song will be (or, perhaps more accurately, I have lots of ideas and will be surprised that all but one of them will be shut out of the top 40).
The interesting thing now is that (I think) it's an absolute certainty that no album got every song in the top 40. Not sure if that's surprising to others, but it is to me.
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Current album standings...
1T. untitled 4th album (5 songs - 111 points) - Misty Mountain Hop (#27); Going to California (#26); The Battle of Evermore (#22); Black Dog (#9); Rock and Roll (#8)
1T. Led Zeppelin (5 songs - 111 points) - How Many More Times (#32T); Communication Breakdown (#29); Good Times Bad Times (#13); Babe I'm Gonna Leave You (#12); Dazed and Confused (#8)
3T. Houses of the Holy (5 songs - 105 points) - Dancing Days (#32T); The Ocean (#30); Over the Hills and Far Away (#17); The Song Remains the Same (#14); The Rain Song (#7)
3T. Led Zeppelin II (6 songs - 105 points) - Living Loving Maid (#40); Thank You (#31); What Is and What Should Never Be (#21); Heartbreaker (#20); Ramble On (#18); Whole Lotta Love (#11)
5. Physical Graffiti (6 songs - 97 points) - In the Light (#34); Houses of the Holy (#28); Trampled Under Foot (#25); The Rover (#24); In My Time of Dying (#23); Ten Years Gone (#15)
6. In Through the Out Door (4 songs - 41 points) - Carouselambra (#37); Fool in the Rain (#35T); All My Love (#35T); In the Evening (#16)
7. Led Zeppelin III (1 song - 22 points) - Since I've Been Loving You (#19)
8. Presence (1 song - 3 points) - Nobody's Fault But Mine (#38)
9. other (1 song - 2 points) - Hey, Hey, What Can I Do (#39)
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I have Dazed and Confused at #9. The Rain Song just missed making the cut, at #43.
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08 Dazed and Confused
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 2 (Dream Team)
8 Top 10 Finishes
07 The Rain Song
Appeared on 16 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (nobloodyname)
9 Top 10 Finishes
I had Dazed And Confused at #36. I can take it or leave it. 35-45 are all interchangeable.
I had The Rain Song as Not Rated. Just missed the cut, but again, well, see D&C.
Top 40 Not Rated
40. Communication Breakdown
39. Misty Mountain Hop
38. Thank You The Battle Of Evermore
37. Carouselambra Since I've Been Loving You
36. Dazed And Confused Good Times Bad Times
35. Living Loving Maid Whole Lotta Love
34. Ramble On Black Dog
33. Dancing Days The Rain Song
32.
31.
30. Rock And Roll
29. Going To California
28.
27. All My Love
26. Over The Hills And Far Away
25. Hey Hey What Can I Do
24.
23. What Is And What Should Never Be
22. The Ocean
21. Trampled Under Foot
20.
19.
18. How Many More Times
17. Nobody's Fault But Mine
16. Heartbreaker
15. Fool In The Rain
14.
13. Dancing Days
12. Ten Years Gone
11.
10. In The Evening
9.
8. In My Time Of Dying
7. The Rover
6. The Song Remains The Same
5. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
4.
3. In The Light
2.
1.
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08 Dazed and Confused
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 2 (Dream Team)
8 Top 10 Finishes
I ranked this 8th, so I nailed it! I liked it in my early fandom days, but it didn't become a major favorite of mine until years later. I have never had any interest in hearing the super long live versions of it (and still don't), as the studio version is already perfect and awesome already.
That's too bad, IMO. I kinda understand folks getting bored with the long middle jam, but to me the studio version just can't compare to the verses of the live performances. See also the soundtrack to The Song Remains the Same. The aggression that Page attacks the strings of his Les Paul on the descending riffs coupled with the slow vibrato of his string bends is sooooo acid-rock. It's glorious!!
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Not Rated:
<12 songs>
I'm glad I'm not the only one with 12 hot-takes!
The Rain Song - #10. It's funny, I often waffle back and forth between this and the other 'longer' song on HOTH as to which I prefer. I never really knew that the broader consensus was that this was a Top 10 song, and the other didn't even crack the Top 40. huh :dunno:
I am pretty sure the longer song you are talking about did make Top 40. I can hardly envision a universe in which it would not be Top 5 or, at worst, Top 10 song. It not making Top 40 is just ...not possible.
Yeah...I assume the song in question will show up in the top 6. I'm pretty certain about 5 of the top 6 (my numbers 1, 3, 4, 23 and 32 songs), but I have no idea what the 6th song will be (or, perhaps more accurately, I have lots of ideas and will be surprised that all but one of them will be shut out of the top 40).
The interesting thing now is that (I think) it's an absolute certainty that no album got every song in the top 40. Not sure if that's surprising to others, but it is to me.
Well, then that just means there's another song that I cannot fathom is *not* in the Top 40.
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Tomorrow will likely result in a lot of "I can't believe this didn't finish higher" posts.
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Tomorrow will likely result in a lot of "I can't believe this didn't finish higher" posts.
I’m guessing that you wouldn’t say that unless it had a really high amount of top votes….but just enough people left it off to drop it out of the top 5.
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Tomorrow will likely result in a lot of "I can't believe this didn't finish higher" posts.
I’m guessing that you wouldn’t say that unless it had a really high amount of top votes….but just enough people left it off to drop it out of the top 5.
Well, pretty much every song left had a shit ton of top votes, so there's that. :biggrin: :biggrin:
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Tomorrow will likely result in a lot of "I can't believe this didn't finish higher" posts.
Poor Tom?
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Catching up on the last 3 entries...
The Song Remains The Same: #23
Good Times Bad Times: #27
Babe I'm Gonna Leave You: #26
Whole Lotta Love: #19
Black Dog: #33
Rock and Roll: #14
Dazed and Confused: #12
The Rain Song: #22
State of play:
40. The Battle of Evermore
39. I think will make the list
38. Over The Hills And Far Away
37. Living Loving Maid (She’s Just A Woman)
36. Misty Mountain Hop
35. Won't make the list
34. All My Love
33. Black Dog
32. Won't make the list
31. Going To California
30. In The Light
29. Houses of the Holy
28. I think will make the list
27. Good Times Bad Times
26. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
25. Ten Years Gone
24. Heartbreaker
23. The Song Remains The Same
22. The Rain Song
21. Thank You
20. Dancing Days
19. Whole Lotta Love
18. What Is And What Should Never Be
17. Won't make the list
16. How Many More Times
15. Will make the list
14. Rock and Roll
13. The Ocean
12. Dazed and Confused
11. In The Evening
10. Nobody’s Fault But Mine
9. Will make the list
8. Starting to think it won't make the list, even though I thought it was a shoo-in.
7. In My Time of Dying
6. Won't make the list
5. Probably won't make the list
4. The Rover
3. Since I've Been Loving You
2. Will make the list
1. Will make the list
Not ranked:
Hey Hey What Can I Do
Carouselambra
Fool In The Rain
Communication Breakdown
Trampled Under Foot
Ramble On
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Tomorrow will likely result in a lot of "I can't believe this didn't finish higher" posts.
For me, there's definitely one that I'm gonna be stunned is not Top 40. I'm still not completely sure which, but I'm fairly certain I know.
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This final 6 definitely has me baffled in a way the other band countdowns I've participated in have not. I have 4 on my list that should make the final 6, and I'd be amazed if the rest of my list that hasn't been slotted yet make the other 2 spots.
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Tomorrow will likely result in a lot of "I can't believe this didn't finish higher" posts.
There's not a whole lot higher than 5/6, and the songs I'm confident are coming could easily finish anywhere in the top 6 spots. I think we'll see a lot more "I'm surprised this finished this high" and "I can't believe this made it while [other song] didn't" posts.
Tomorrow will likely result in a lot of "I can't believe this didn't finish higher" posts.
Poor Tom?
Ozone Baby.
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This final 6 definitely has me baffled in a way the other band countdowns I've participated in have not. I have 4 on my list that should make the final 6, and I'd be amazed if the rest of my list that hasn't been slotted yet make the other 2 spots.
I wonder if this is about where you are coming from as a fan. From my perspective of a casual LZ listener, the Top 10 was clear the moment n.11 and 12. were revealed (admittedly, we have yet to see how that plays out).
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I’m two rum and ciders in…and many of you know the personal crap I’m going through.
I just want you all to know that I find the “chatter of the room” comforting. Even if I find it difficult to participate.
I thank you all.
I apologize if I seem dramatic. I’m just a couple of rum and ciders in, and I want all of you to know how I feel about all of you.
#itsawonderfullife
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I’m two rum and ciders in…and many of you know the personal crap I’m going through.
I just want you all to know that I find the “chatter of the room” comforting. Even if I find it difficult to participate.
I thank you all.
I apologize if I seem dramatic. I’m just a couple of rum and ciders in, and I want all of you to know how I feel about all of you.
#itsawonderfullife
Hang in there, man. :tup :tup
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We continue to move closer to the top...
06 No Quarter
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (LudwigVan)
7 Top 10 Finishes
This is another that wouldn't have rated nearly this high for me for a long time, but over the years has really grown on me. I think I initially wasn't a fan of Plant's hushed vocals, but I dig them now. I ranked this 6th, so this is another where I nailed the final spot. The middle section of this song is for the ages.
05 When the Levee Breaks
Appeared on 17 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (Dave_Manchester)
7 Top 10 Finishes
This is one I thought had a legit chance to finish at number 1, so I was a bit surprised to see it left off four lists and for it to finish as low as number 5. I ranked it 3rd. When discussing what is the greatest drum performance in a rock song ever, this is in the conversation. John Bonham is :hefdaddy :hefdaddy in this one.
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I am astonished When the Levee Breaks finished that high. What have I been missing all these years?! I shall go and re-listen in a moment, if only to break up this Porcupine Tree top 50 prep 😬
Edit: okay, just listened again. It didn't make my top 40 because it's a bit... boring. Sorry. No accounting for taste. But I'm intrigued by Kev's comment about the drumming performance. Can I ask for an insight into what makes it so good, please?
Also, does anyone know what's with the super loud percussion hit around 1m 35s? I only checked the Super Deluxe version so not sure if it's present elsewhere.
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Well, I'm (pleasantly) surprised that No Quarter made it. Which brings about my bigger shock/surprise that another song I had in my top 15 does not make even the Top 40. NQ is a great song, and as I said, I often waffle as to whether I prefer this to The Rain Song. For this list though, Rain Song edged out No Quarter for me - which I ranked 19th.
When the Levee Breaks - not ranked. It falls just outside of my Top 40, even though I know it should be higher, and is one of their all-time greats. I've come to appreciate it a lot over the last 30 years, but when I first discovered IV, this was when rap was making a bit of a comeback in popular radio (eg, the mashup of Aerosmith and Run DMC with Walk This Way). At the time, the drumbeat irked me because it sounded too close to the rap drumbeats of the day (esp The Beastie Boys). And for that reason, I didn't really like this song at the time.
Looking/listening back, this is ridiculous of course, but it's an impression that stuck with me for years, and the shadow of that impression still lingers today. I just couldn't find a spot for it in my Top 40.
05 When the Levee Breaks
Appeared on 17 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (Dave_Manchester)
7 Top 10 Finishes
This is one I thought had a legit chance to finish at number 1, so I was a bit surprised to see it left off three lists and for it to finish as low as number 5. I ranked it 3rd. When discussing what is the greatest drum performance in a rock song ever, this is in the conversation. John Bonham is :hefdaddy :hefdaddy in this one.
:huh: Math: Do you even? :lol :lol
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Damn it.
I am astonished When the Levee Breaks finished that high. What have I been missing all these years?! I shall go and re-listen in a moment, if only to break up this Porcupine Tree top 50 prep 😬
Edit: okay, just listened again. It didn't make my top 40 because it's a bit... boring. Sorry. No accounting for taste. But I'm intrigued by Kev's comment about the drumming performance. Can I ask for an insight into what makes it so good, please?
Listen to Bonham's bass drum work. He had a single bass drum, not a double like most would do to play something like that.
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No Quarter I just heard yesterday for the first time while checking out Houses of the Holy. What a unique and cool song! Surprised it finished this high just because it’s pretty out there. The vocal affect, fuzzy guitars, and overall tone kind of remind me of Radiohead’s Kid A album. I knew Zeppelin were creative but didn’t know they had done anything this experimental. I dig it.
When The Levee Breaks is one I’ve never liked, though I can appreciate that it is kind of Bonham’s trademark groove and I do like me some *harmonica from time to time. Just not a lot going on melodically that appeals to me here.
*don’t know why I said accordion initially.
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When the Levee Breaks - not ranked. It falls just outside of my Top 40, even though I know it should be higher, and is one of their all-time greats. I've come to appreciate it a lot over the last 30 years, but when I first discovered IV, this was when rap was making a bit of a comeback in popular radio (eg, the mashup of Aerosmith and Run DMC with Walk This Way). At the time, the drumbeat irked me because it sounded too close to the rap drumbeats of the day (esp The Beastie Boys). And for that reason, I didn't really like this song at the time.
Looking/listening back, this is ridiculous of course, but it's an impression that stuck with me for years, and the shadow of that impression still lingers today. I just couldn't find a spot for it in my Top 40.
Well, the "ridiculous" (I don't think so, just using your word) part of it is that all those things are 15 years following what Bonham (and Page, since he had a large part in the SOUND of Zeppelin) did with an entirely different intent. I think it just goes to show how powerful and revolutionary Bonham really was.
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No Quarter I just heard yesterday for the first time while checking out Houses of the Holy. What a unique and cool song! Surprised it finished this high just because it’s pretty out there. The vocal affect, fuzzy guitars, and overall tone kind of remind me of Radiohead’s Kid A album. I knew Zeppelin were creative but didn’t know they had done anything this experimental. I dig it.
When The Levee Breaks is one I’ve never liked, though I can appreciate that it is kind of Bonham’s trademark groove and I do like me some accordion from time to time. Just not a lot going on melodically that appeals to me here.
How you hurt me. What did I ever do to you? :) :) :) :)
Comparing Zeppelin with Radiohead......... Radiohead, IMO, can't clean Zeppelin's rest rooms.
More seriously, if you're into the song, and interested in exploring, check out some of the live versions. More (and different) than, say, just the extended Dazed And Confused, they really take No Quarter in a cool direction. Really interesting stuff out there.
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Top 40
40. NO CHANCE OF MAKING THE LIST
39. NCOMTL
38. Nobody's Fault But Mine
37. NCOMTL
36. Babe I'm Going To Leave You
35. Ramble On
34. TBD
33. NCOMTL
32. The Ocean
31. Fool In The Rain
30. NCOMTL
29. In My Time Of Dying
28. In The Evening
27. When The Levee Breaks
26. How Many More Times
25. NCOMTL
24. NCOMTL
23. NCOMTL
22. Good Times, Bad Times
21. Houses Of The Holy
20. NCOMTL
19. No Quarter
18. NCOMTL
17. TBD
16. Carouselambra
15. What Is And What Should Never Be
14. In The Light
13. NCOMTL
12. TBD
11. Over The Hills And Far Away
10. NCOMTL
9. Misty Mountain Hop
8. Hey Hey What Can I Do
7. The Song Remains The Same
6. Going To California
5. The Rain Song
4. The Rover
3. The Battle Of Evermore
2. Ten Years Gone
1. TBD
Not Rated:
42. Rock And Roll
44. Dancing Days
45. Living Loving Maid (She's Just A Woman)
48. Thank You
51. Heartbreaker
52. All My Love
53. Black Dog
62. Whole Lotta Love
63. Trampled Underfoot
72. Communication Breakdown
74. Dazed And Confused
75. Since I've Been Loving You
This is the confounding thing about Zeppelin; I'm looking at both No Quarter and Levee, and thinking, "I had them WAY too low", but then again, what do I move to move them up? Two more than I nailed on the final list. The "TBD"s are what I think remain, the others are my folly. We'll see! :)
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The version of No Quarter from The Song Remains The Same is in my top 5 all time favorite songs by any band. If any of you Zep noobs have not heard it, please go seek it out and put your headphones on.
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The version of No Quarter from The Song Remains The Same is in my top 5 all time favorite songs by any band. If any of you Zep noobs have not heard it, please go seek it out and put your headphones on.
I feel the same way about the version of Stairway from that album. "Does anybody remember laughter?"
Although my understanding is it's actually culled from a couple of different performances. Can't remember the name of the website but it goes into all that.
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The version of No Quarter from The Song Remains The Same is in my top 5 all time favorite songs by any band. If any of you Zep noobs have not heard it, please go seek it out and put your headphones on.
I feel the same way about the version of Stairway from that album. "Does anybody remember laughter?"
Although my understanding is it's actually culled from a couple of different performances. Can't remember the name of the website but it goes into all that.
It's called "The Garden Tapes" (http://www.thegardentapes.co.uk/tgt.html). It's FASCINATING.
Nominally, the live TSRTS was culled from three nights at Madison Square Garden in NYC, in July of 1973 (27th, 28th, and 29th). But for various reasons - some clear, some not so clear - there are in fact FOUR versions of TSRTS - the original film, the original soundtrack, the remastered expanded soundtrack, and the remastered film.
I've actually gone through the four of them and there ARE differences. Some minor, some major, but certainly if you're a completist, it's fun to work through. Some songs are relatively complete performances (if I remember, "Rock and Roll" is largely from one night) but even those have as many as 10 or 12 drop-ins from other nights, especially on the later reissues.
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Yup 2 great songs there, No Quarter was #7 and When the Levee Breaks #9. I guess I was the highest ranker of both Black Dog and Dazed and Confused funnily enough. This is my go-to version of Black Dog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbdjjdbvb4s
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No Quarter I just heard yesterday for the first time while checking out Houses of the Holy. What a unique and cool song! Surprised it finished this high just because it’s pretty out there. The vocal affect, fuzzy guitars, and overall tone kind of remind me of Radiohead’s Kid A album. I knew Zeppelin were creative but didn’t know they had done anything this experimental. I dig it.
When The Levee Breaks is one I’ve never liked, though I can appreciate that it is kind of Bonham’s trademark groove and I do like me some accordion from time to time. Just not a lot going on melodically that appeals to me here.
How you hurt me. What did I ever do to you? :) :) :) :)
Comparing Zeppelin with Radiohead......... Radiohead, IMO, can't clean Zeppelin's rest rooms.
More seriously, if you're into the song, and interested in exploring, check out some of the live versions. More (and different) than, say, just the extended Dazed And Confused, they really take No Quarter in a cool direction. Really interesting stuff out there.
That’s the reaction I anticipated! But seriously, it does have that sort of feel to me.
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06 No Quarter
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05 When the Levee Breaks
I had No Quarter at #32 (and had I taken the bloated Song Remains version into account, as I did with Dazed, it might have been lower). The main figure is cool, but it's just a little too weird (primarily the effect on the Mellotron and guitar, the name of which I can't recall) and overly long for my taste. Definitely an "are we there yet?" song. Once we got to the top 10, I figured it was far more likely that this would be this high, as opposed to not on the list at all, but I think it's crazy that it's this high.
I had Levee at #18. Totally solid song, but #5?? I've been saying for a couple days that I just wasn't sure about one of the final songs, and this is it. Very surprised this is top 5, but I'd have been even more surprised if it didn't make the top 40 at all (which will be the fate of a few other songs under discussion privately, but we'll get to that later).
My rankings so far (28/36)...
40 ???
39 ???
38 Living Loving Maid (She’s Just a Woman)
37 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do
36 ???
35 ???
34 Over the Hills and Far Away
33 Dancing Days
32 No Quarter
31 Dazed and Confused
30 Misty Mountain Hop
29 Trampled Under Foot
28 Ramble On
27 Good Times Bad Times
26 ???
25 Houses of the Holy
24 The Ocean
23 ???
22 The Rain Song
21 Going to California
20 ???
19 ???
18 When the Levee Breaks
17 In the Evening
16 All My Love
15 Heartbreaker
14 ???
13 Fool in the Rain
12 Rock and Roll
11 The Battle of Evermore
10 Communication Breakdown
9 Whole Lotta Love
8 Black Dog
7 The Rover
6 Ten Years Gone
5 Carouselambra
4 ???
3 ???
2 The Song Remains the Same
1 ???
NOT RANKED:
Nobody's Fault But Mine
In the Light
How Many More Times
Thank You
In My Time of Dying
What Is and What Should Never Be
Since I've Been Loving You
Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
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I had Levee at #38 and almost left it off. Guilty as charged. It's still a good song, though. :tup
No quarter, on the other hand, is tremendous. Top 20 material for me.
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40 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) #25
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do #39!
38 Nobody's Fault But Mine #11
37 Carouselambra #24
35 (t) All My Love NR
35 (t) Fool In The Rain NR
34 In The Light NR
32 (t) Dancing Days #7
32 (t) How Many More Times NR
31 Thank You #3
30 The Ocean NR
29 Communication Breakdown #28
28 Houses of the Holy #9
27 Misty Mountain Hop #32
26 Going to California #29
25 Trampled Under Foot #6
24 The Rover #26
23 In My Time of Dying NR
22 The Battle of Evermore #15
21 What Is and What Should Never Be #27
20 Heartbreaker #35
19 Since I've Been Loving You NR
18 Ramble On #13
17 Over the Hills #14
16 In the Evening #12
15 Ten Years Gone #19
14 The Song Remains the Same #10
13 Good Times Bad Times #38
12 Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You #20
11 Whole Lotta Love #8
10 Black Dog #17
09 Rock & Roll #4
08 Dazed and Confused #31
07 The Rain Song #34
06 No Quarter #23
05 When the Levee Breaks NR
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06 No Quarter
Appeared on 18 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (LudwigVan)
7 Top 10 Finishes
05 When the Levee Breaks
Appeared on 17 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (Dave_Manchester)
7 Top 10 Finishes
I had No Quarter at #9. This song is a fucking monster. Count me out on any live overblown drawn out version. Just hit me with the studio version and I'm good.
I had When The Levee Breaks at #19. Such a great and iconic drum intro, but Kev...one of Bonham's best performances?? Nah.. In fact, this song slipped a little in my standings as I did my run throughs. Still a top 20 track though.
Top 40 Not Rated
40. Nope Communication Breakdown
39. Nope Misty Mountain Hop
38. Thank You The Battle Of Evermore
37. Carouselambra Since I've Been Loving You
36. Dazed And Confused Good Times Bad Times
35. Living Loving Maid Whole Lotta Love
34. Ramble On Black Dog
33. Dancing Days The Rain Song
32. Nope
31. YES
30. Rock And Roll
29. Going To California
28. Nope
27. All My Love
26. Over The Hills And Far Away
25. Hey Hey What Can I Do
24. YES
23. What Is And What Should Never Be
22. The Ocean
21. Trampled Under Foot
20. Nope
19. When The Levee Breaks
18. How Many More Times
17. Nobody's Fault But Mine
16. Heartbreaker
15. Fool In The Rain
14. Nope
13. Dancing Days
12. Ten Years Gone
11. YES
10. In The Evening
9. No Quarter
8. In My Time Of Dying
7. The Rover
6. The Song Remains The Same
5. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
4. Hell NO!
3. In The Light
2. Nope
1. YES
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I have When the Levee Breaks at #14. I did not rank No Quarter.
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No Quarter.
My n. 2 song. For a moment, I even toyed with the idea of putting it at n. 1 but in the end, I couldn't in a good conscience ignore another monster in the room just for the sake of giving spotlight to a less well-known song. Listening to No Quarter has been a mesmerizing experience since the first time I heard the song more than 20 years ago.
When The Levee Breaks
My n. 8. One of the LZ songs I can enjoy any time and anywhere, without needing to be in a specific mood. The groove is just so infectiously catchy. But my expectations of its final ranking were somewhat contrary to Kev's - I am surprised it finished this high. I thought I would be one of the high rankers but there must have been quite a few people who rate this song even higher.
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I had No Quarter at #28, which gives me my first Bingo line (the 20s). I'll also make the obligatory mention of Tool's cover version of the song, which is worth checking out.
When The Levee Breaks took my #1 spot. I'm pretty surprised I was the only one to give it the gold sash, but over the last week DTF has seen Duke voted the best Genesis album (still chuckling about that), and a handful of lunatics look set to vote off Supper's Ready before it even reaches the podium stage of the song survivor. So, yeah, this ain't the first time I've been surprised by the good folk of DTF this week.
40. The Battle of Evermore
39.
38. Over The Hills And Far Away
37. Living Loving Maid (She’s Just A Woman)
36. Misty Mountain Hop
35.
34. All My Love
33. Black Dog
32.
31. Going To California
30. In The Light
29. Houses of the Holy
28. No Quarter
27. Good Times Bad Times
26. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
25. Ten Years Gone
24. Heartbreaker
23. The Song Remains The Same
22. The Rain Song
21. Thank You
20. Dancing Days
19. Whole Lotta Love
18. What Is And What Should Never Be
17.
16. How Many More Times
15.
14. Rock and Roll
13. The Ocean
12. Dazed and Confused
11. In The Evening
10. Nobody’s Fault But Mine
9.
8.
7. In My Time of Dying
6.
5.
4. The Rover
3. Since I've Been Loving You
2.
1. When The Levee Breaks
Not ranked:
Hey Hey What Can I Do
Carouselambra
Fool In The Rain
Communication Breakdown
Trampled Under Foot
Ramble On
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over the last week DTF has seen Duke voted the best Genesis album (still chuckling about that), and a handful of lunatics look set to vote off Supper's Ready before it even reaches the podium stage of the song survivor.
Maybe I'm wrong; maybe I'm right; maybe I'm some kind of lunatic. And the best album finished third.
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over the last week DTF has seen Duke voted the best Genesis album (still chuckling about that), and a handful of lunatics look set to vote off Supper's Ready before it even reaches the podium stage of the song survivor.
Maybe I'm wrong; maybe I'm right; maybe I'm some kind of lunatic. And the best album finished third.
I struggle to definitively identify a favorite Genesis album, but Duke has always resonated with me on a more personal level than the other albums so that always gives it an edge. No idea what’s going on with the Supper’s Ready vote (I haven’t voted for it yet), but I’d have it behind at least two other Genesis songs personally (one from the same album). As for Levee, I just don’t see the appeal really (I didn’t submit a list, but if it ranked it would have been pretty low).
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No Quarter I just heard yesterday for the first time while checking out Houses of the Holy. What a unique and cool song! Surprised it finished this high just because it’s pretty out there. The vocal affect, fuzzy guitars, and overall tone kind of remind me of Radiohead’s Kid A album. I knew Zeppelin were creative but didn’t know they had done anything this experimental. I dig it.
When The Levee Breaks is one I’ve never liked, though I can appreciate that it is kind of Bonham’s trademark groove and I do like me some accordion from time to time. Just not a lot going on melodically that appeals to me here.
How you hurt me. What did I ever do to you? :) :) :) :)
Comparing Zeppelin with Radiohead......... Radiohead, IMO, can't clean Zeppelin's rest rooms.
More seriously, if you're into the song, and interested in exploring, check out some of the live versions. More (and different) than, say, just the extended Dazed And Confused, they really take No Quarter in a cool direction. Really interesting stuff out there.
That’s the reaction I anticipated! But seriously, it does have that sort of feel to me.
Listening to Kid A now and realizing that Thom York’s voice/delivery is an awful lot like Plant’s in general (not just on No Quarter).
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Awful is the only part of that sentence that needed to used for a York/Plant comparison.
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Assuming I am right on 3 of the next 4, I am going to be amazed as to whatever that 4th song is.
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Awful is the only part of that sentence that needed to used for a York/Plant comparison.
I wouldn’t call either great singers really, but they use what they have pretty effectively. They both share a kind of slurred, loose, nasally style. Plant is more screamy and York is more whiny might be how I’d put it. But I could see York maybe being influenced by Plant (never heard that he was, it just occurred to me).
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Holly shit, DA, that story about the accident is terrifying. It's unbelievable how a song sometimes lines up so terrifyingly.
There were many cars totalled (mine included), but only two broken ankles or legs. At least 'In My Time Of Dying' was only music, and not something actually experienced that dayl. ;)
finally catching up.....
10 Black Dog #9 ‘One does not simply ‘Black Dog’ without ‘Rock And Roll’ :biggrin: though…
09 Rock and Roll #7 ….I can hear this one on its own. ;) Both are classic rocking tunes to start the classic album.
08 Dazed and Confused #5 I didn’t hear this until college, and man, did I ever hear it a lot then (and the following years). The perfect ‘indulging’ song.
07 The Rain Song NR not ranked doesn’t mean not enjoyable. Simply not a ‘must’ for me.
06 No Quarter #20 Yet this one is. Perhaps it is because I listened to Side Two more often.
05 When The Levee Breaks #18 John Henry Bonham. :tup Various highlights throughout, and then during the final section and seconds, you realize what a great album (or album side) experience you just had, whether indulging or not. Then it ends with those odd final notes.
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29 songs ranked of the 36 posted so far. I'll end up with 32. Not bad considering how under the weather I was when I filled this out, accounting for three oversights (brain farts).
I have enjoyed actually listening to each song as they've been posted, most of them multiple times, with only one being a bit of a struggle (unlike all the other countdowns.....).
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Last update before we get the finally two tomorrow! :hat :hat
04 Immigrant Song
Appeared on 20 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 3 (Zoom E, The Realm, kingshmegland)
10 Top 10 Finishes
How they managed to pack in so much awesomeness in under 2 1/2 minutes was a remarkable feat. This song floored me the first time I heard, and it has held up really well. I ranked it 7th. I remember a LZ fan I worked with in the 90s remarking how difficult the bass line in this song was to get just right (he could play almost every LZ song on bass, but struggled with this one). Incredible song.
03 Achilles Last Stand
Appeared on 20 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (kingshmegland, pg1067, DTwwbwMP)
11 Top 10 Finishes
Good song, but I think it got the long song bump from this crowd here. I ranked it 28th, which even feels a bit high, so I think I was a victim of overrating it as well. I am not surprised it finished 3rd here, but this has never been on my go-to list of LZ songs.
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Last update before we get the finally two tomorrow! :hat :hat
04 Immigrant Song
Appeared on 20 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 3 (Zoom E, The Realm, kingshmegland)
10 Top 10 Finishes
How they managed to pack in so much awesomeness in under 2 1/2 minutes was a remarkable feat. This song floored me the first time I heard, and it has held up really well. I ranked it 7th. I remember a LZ fan I worked with in the 90s remarking how difficult the bass line in this song was to get just right (he could play almost every LZ song on bass, but struggled with this one). Incredible song.
03 Achilles Last Stand
Appeared on 20 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (kingshmegland, pg1067, DTwwbwMP)
11 Top 10 Finishes
Good song, but I think it got the long song bump from this crowd here. I ranked it 28th, which even feels a bit high, so I think I was a victim of overrating it as well. I am not surprised it finished 3rd here, but this has never been on my go-to list of LZ songs.
LOVE both tracks—had "Immigrant Song" at number 10, but it momentarily climbs to one every time I listen to III :metal
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Immigrant Song. Well, I have the notes of the opening stanza tattooed on my arm (as the inscription on Mjolnir), so it's gonna rank high for sure. I'm torn between whether I'm quite content that it's as short as it is, or whether iI want more of it - when I do want more, there's a cover out there with a bunch of A/B-list prog-metallers that has 3 guitar solos in it, so that's a little gratifying. #6 for me.
Achilles ... Not surprised at all that it topped the list for 3 DTFrs. I mean, this is a prog-metal forum, and this song is as close to prog-metal that Zeppelin gets. Great track, but only #12 on my list.
Curious to know which member for each left these unranked. Who's gonna fess up?
So now there's only one question to be answered - which of the top 2 (which apparently made everyone's lists) will finish in the top spot. Flip a coin I suppose.
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Top 40
40. NO CHANCE OF MAKING THE LIST
39. NCOMTL
38. Nobody's Fault But Mine
37. NCOMTL
36. Babe I'm Going To Leave You
35. Ramble On
34. TBD
33. NCOMTL
32. The Ocean
31. Fool In The Rain
30. NCOMTL
29. In My Time Of Dying
28. In The Evening
27. When The Levee Breaks
26. How Many More Times
25. NCOMTL
24. NCOMTL
23. NCOMTL
22. Good Times, Bad Times
21. Houses Of The Holy
20. NCOMTL
19. No Quarter
18. NCOMTL
17. Achilles Last Stand
16. Carouselambra
15. What Is And What Should Never Be
14. In The Light
13. NCOMTL
12. TBD
11. Over The Hills And Far Away
10. NCOMTL
9. Misty Mountain Hop
8. Hey Hey What Can I Do
7. The Song Remains The Same
6. Going To California
5. The Rain Song
4. The Rover
3. The Battle Of Evermore
2. Ten Years Gone
1. TBD
Not Rated:
42. Rock And Roll
44. Dancing Days
45. Living Loving Maid (She's Just A Woman)
48. Thank You
50. Immigrant Song
51. Heartbreaker
52. All My Love
53. Black Dog
62. Whole Lotta Love
63. Trampled Underfoot
72. Communication Breakdown
74. Dazed And Confused
75. Since I've Been Loving You
So, notes:
Immigrant Song: I don't really like politics in my songs so I left it off. There you go, Jingle, fessed up. No, I'm kidding; it's an excellent song. We cranked it the other night in my garage while working on my stepsons car, and we sort of had a bonding moment, it was cool. The 'ah-ah-ahhhh!" part is epic (and you can hear it in other songs as well; Back In Black, anyone?). Yet again, because of it's familiarity I sort of left a spot for other, more unheralded songs (Celebration Day and Out On The Tiles from III are on my list, for example).
Achilles Last Stand: always a very good track, it reached really epic proportions when I saw Temple Of The Dog (Pearl Jam with Chris Cornell instead of Eddie Vedder singing) do a cover of it at Madison Square Garden. Matt Cameron got the push and pull of the tempo absolutely PERFECT, and it was by far the best song of the night for me. Chris had a neat little line at the end: something to the effect of "I can't believe I got a chance to play THAT song in THIS building" (Zeppelin played more shows at MSG than any other arena in the United States).
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Achilles Last Stand is my fave LZ song. Its repetitiveness works greatly for an hipnotic feel and all the different drum fills help to building the tension and move the song forward. Incredible instrumental and atmosphere during all the song!!
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Immigrant Song. Well, I have the notes of the opening stanza tattooed on my arm (as the inscription on Mjolnir), so it's gonna rank high for sure. I'm torn between whether I'm quite content that it's as short as it is, or whether iI want more of it - when I do want more, there's a cover out there with a bunch of A/B-list prog-metallers that has 3 guitar solos in it, so that's a little gratifying. #6 for me.
Achilles ... Not surprised at all that it topped the list for 3 DTFrs. I mean, this is a prog-metal forum, and this song is as close to prog-metal that Zeppelin gets. Great track, but only #12 on my list.
Curious to know which member for each left these unranked. Who's gonna fess up?
So now there's only one question to be answered - which of the top 2 (which apparently made everyone's lists) will finish in the top spot. Flip a coin I suppose.
I was the culprit for Immigrant Song, as you can see in my post.
If you and I are talking about the same two songs (and I am not speculating, just assuming) I don't think the last two are at all interchangeable. Both made my list, and I get the appeal of the later song (Plant in particular has praised it as their "best work", though he is also spiteful of the earlier song so there may be some of that in there) but to me, they are not peers.
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Stadler: Immigrant Song is an "excellent song"
Also Stadler: Rates 49 other LZ songs ahead of it
It took me a hot second to realize your political line was sarcasm, because I had to re-read it to believe what I was seeing before I saw your 'kidding'.
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I am kind of in between on Immigrant Song. I like it when it comes on in the Thor movies. Outside of that experience, I don’t think it’s a song I was ever particularly fond of. Listening to it now, as great as the opening hook is, I’m not sure the song itself is that remarkable. Still I probably would have ranked it fairly high if I had done a list.
Achilles Last Stand I only knew from DT’s cover. I may have listened to the original once before, but just based off the cover I would have ranked it near the top of my list. Listening to the original now, DT stayed pretty true to it, so yeah, great song and worthy of this finish.
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Stadler: Immigrant Song is an "excellent song"
Also Stadler: Rates 49 other LZ songs ahead of it
It took me a hot second to realize your political line was sarcasm, because I had to re-read it to believe what I was seeing before I saw your 'kidding'.
Haha, it was a joke (there's a discussion about "immigrants" going on right now in P/R).
As for the "49 songs ahead of it", yeah. I really struggled with this. I would probably consider the Zeppelin catalogue the strongest in rock history for any act with more than five albums. You take the MIDDLE song - not the best, not the worst, but the sort of "average" song from each album, put them on an album, and you STILL have a great record. A record that most bands would kill for.
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Both of these are brilliant. I had Achilles at #8 and Immigrant at #15.
I am also confident my top two will be the overall top two, which is a glorious feeling. :heart
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Immigrant Song My n. 6. The best pure rocker by LZ. When I listened to LZ for the first time in my life, it was "Remasters" greatest hit 2 CD collection. I remember feeling kind of disappointed by the disc 1. I was looking forward to finally hearing what was supposed to be the most legendary hard rock band and most stuff sounded too bluesy and dated to me - not exciting at all (obviously, it grew on me later). There were two exceptions and one of them was Immigrant Song. This was exactly the kind of catchy and all around awesome tune I had been expecting. And it still is. I also gave it some extra points for being short as most LZ songs go on for a bit too long for me (with the length being achieved by being repetitive).
Achilles Last Stand My n. 3. This is one LZ song where the repetitiveness works for me and I don't even notice it goes on for 10 minutes (no, it does not get any extra points for just being long - there are a few LZ songs I actively dislike for that very reason, such as In My Time of Dying). Like No Quarter, this was a standout song on the Disc 2 of "Remasters" GH collection since the very beginning and now more than 20 years later, listening to it still feels like a unique experience.
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Both of these are brilliant. I had Achilles at #8 and Immigrant at #15.
I am also confident my top two will be the overall top two, which is a glorious feeling. :heart
Hmm... one of those contains one of the best solos ever recorded while the other is an overrated bore-fest :biggrin: Wonder which will way round they'll be?
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40 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) #25
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do #39!
38 Nobody's Fault But Mine #11
37 Carouselambra #24
35 (t) All My Love NR
35 (t) Fool In The Rain NR
34 In The Light NR
32 (t) Dancing Days #7
32 (t) How Many More Times NR
31 Thank You #3
30 The Ocean NR
29 Communication Breakdown #28
28 Houses of the Holy #9
27 Misty Mountain Hop #32
26 Going to California #29
25 Trampled Under Foot #6
24 The Rover #26
23 In My Time of Dying NR
22 The Battle of Evermore #15
21 What Is and What Should Never Be #27
20 Heartbreaker #35
19 Since I've Been Loving You NR
18 Ramble On #13
17 Over the Hills #14
16 In the Evening #12
15 Ten Years Gone #19
14 The Song Remains the Same #10
13 Good Times Bad Times #38
12 Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You #20
11 Whole Lotta Love #8
10 Black Dog #17
09 Rock & Roll #4
08 Dazed and Confused #31
07 The Rain Song #34
06 No Quarter #23
05 When the Levee Breaks NR
04 Immigrant Song #18
03 Achilles Last Stand #1
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04 Immigrant Song
Appeared on 20 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 3 (Zoom E, The Realm, kingshmegland)
10 Top 10 Finishes
03 Achilles Last Stand
Appeared on 20 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (kingshmegland, pg1067, DTwwbwMP)
11 Top 10 Finishes
I had Immigrant Song at #24. It's an excellent and classic track. I still really like it and would make a Zeppelin playlist still today.
I had Achilles Last Stand at #31. When I started putting this list together, I originally had Achilles around #10ish. But a ran through the song a couple of times, and well, it's length really isn't justified to me. It's like one straight line for 10 minutes. If this was shortened to say, 6 minutes, it would've been so much better.
Top 40 Not Rated
40. Nope Communication Breakdown
39. Nope Misty Mountain Hop
38. Thank You The Battle Of Evermore
37. Carouselambra Since I've Been Loving You
36. Dazed And Confused Good Times Bad Times
35. Living Loving Maid Whole Lotta Love
34. Ramble On Black Dog
33. Dancing Days The Rain Song
32. Nope
31. Achilles Last Stand
30. Rock And Roll
29. Going To California
28. Nope
27. All My Love
26. Over The Hills And Far Away
25. Hey Hey What Can I Do
24. Immigrant Song
23. What Is And What Should Never Be
22. The Ocean
21. Trampled Under Foot
20. Nope
19. When The Levee Breaks
18. How Many More Times
17. Nobody's Fault But Mine
16. Heartbreaker
15. Fool In The Rain
14. Nope
13. Dancing Days
12. Ten Years Gone
11. YES
10. In The Evening
9. No Quarter
8. In My Time Of Dying
7. The Rover
6. The Song Remains The Same
5. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
4. Hell NO!
3. In The Light
2. Nope
1. YES
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04 Immigrant Song #17 no tattoos regarding this song. :lol I enjoy this as much as a dozen I assigned higher numbers to.
03 Achilles Last Stand NR when I went through my list last night, I thought 'oh, the last song on Presence made it'. Seriously. That LP slipped through the cracks for me until '85, and the timing (and the LP) was not a good fit. Speaking of timing....this is a perfect time for my post, as I'll second TAC's eloquent prior comment
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04 Immigrant Song #17 no tattoes regarding this song. :lol I enjoy this as much as a dozen I assigned higher numbers to.
03 Achilles Last Stand NR when I went through my list last night, I thought 'oh, the last song on Presence made it'. Seriously. That LP slipped through the cracks for me until '85, and the timing (and the LP) was not a good fit. Speaking of timing....this is a perfect time for my post, as I'll second TAC's eloquent prior comment
Just sayin... it's not a badge of honor to have a hot-take similar to Tim's. :rollin
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I had Immigrant Song at #39. It's great but I certainly don't think it's anywhere near the 4th best in their catalogue. I suspected it would finish high though. Yesterday I 'knew' what 3 of the 4 remaining tracks would be, but as to the 4th, I was torn between Immigrant Song and a certain song from Physical Graffiti which, not to give away the title (I guess technically it could still make the list), is a wholesome tune about enjoying a nice warm dripping slice of pastry. It's my biggest surprise of this countdown that it (almost certainly) hasn't made the final list.
Achilles Last Stand came in at #9. Monster of a song, and really on any given day could have appeared anywhere in the top 10 other than my set-in-stone #1.
40. The Battle of Evermore
39. Immigrant Song
38. Over The Hills And Far Away
37. Living Loving Maid (She’s Just A Woman)
36. Misty Mountain Hop
35.
34. All My Love
33. Black Dog
32.
31. Going To California
30. In The Light
29. Houses of the Holy
28. No Quarter
27. Good Times Bad Times
26. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
25. Ten Years Gone
24. Heartbreaker
23. The Song Remains The Same
22. The Rain Song
21. Thank You
20. Dancing Days
19. Whole Lotta Love
18. What Is And What Should Never Be
17.
16. How Many More Times
15.
14. Rock and Roll
13. The Ocean
12. Dazed and Confused
11. In The Evening
10. Nobody’s Fault But Mine
9. Achilles Last Stand
8.
7. In My Time of Dying
6.
5.
4. The Rover
3. Since I've Been Loving You
2.
1. When The Levee Breaks
Not ranked:
Hey Hey What Can I Do
Carouselambra
Fool In The Rain
Communication Breakdown
Trampled Under Foot
Ramble On
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I had Immigrant Song at #39. It's great but I certainly don't think it's anywhere near the 4th best in their catalogue. I suspected it would finish high though. Yesterday I 'knew' what 3 of the 4 remaining tracks would be, but as to the 4th, I was torn between Immigrant Song and a certain song from Physical Graffiti which, not to give away the title (I guess technically it could still make the list), is a wholesome tune about enjoying a nice warm dripping slice of pastry. It's my biggest surprise of this countdown that it (almost certainly) hasn't made the final list.
My biggest surprise - and it's a big surprise, considering the number of covers that are out there of it - is on the first album.
EDIT: Then again, I tend to have a lot more "unrated"'s than most on these polls. :)
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@ Dave ... The fact the warm slice of pastry did not make Top 40 is also my biggest surprise - I'd thought it was going to be No Quarter until yesterday. Unless Kev is cramming 3 songs into the Top 2, I don't think any of us have any doubt as to which those top 2 songs are - just the order.
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Confession: I just learned the other day while listening to Houses of the Holy for the first time that the song that goes "oh oh oh oh oh oh, you don't have to go" is called D'yer Mak'er. If I had made a list, I would have tried to rank it but not had any clue what it was called.
On that note, do people not like D'yer Mak'er? It's pretty great IMO.
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On that note, do people not like D'yer Mak'er? It's pretty great IMO.
It made my top 5.
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On that note, do people not like D'yer Mak'er? It's pretty great IMO.
It made my top 5.
Reading about it now, and apparently John Paul Jones didn't like it. The lyrics are silly (and I never would have gotten the joke implied by the title without looking it up), but so are lots of Zeppelin lyrics.
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Confession: I just learned the other day while listening to Houses of the Holy for the first time that the song that goes "oh oh oh oh oh oh, you don't have to go" is called D'yer Mak'er. If I had made a list, I would have tried to rank it but not had any clue what it was called.
On that note, do people not like D'yer Mak'er? It's pretty great IMO.
Both D'yer Mak'er (a pun on "Jamaica!"; #78 on my list) and The Crunge (#82 on my list) were the result of Bonham playing with traditional beats, the former a mix of reggae and 50's doo-wop, the latter a funk number, but purposefully done so you couldn't dance to it. "The Bridge" is a tongue in cheek reference to James Brown. They were controversial at the time, and according to many critics, led to the mixed reviews for the album.
It's worth noting that "Houses Of The Holy", "The Rover", "Black Country Woman" and "Walter's Walk" were all recorded during these sessions.
Can you imagine this:
Side One
1. "The Song Remains the Same"
2. "The Rain Song"
3. "Over the Hills and Far Away"
4. "Houses Of The Holy"
Side two
1. "Dancing Days"
2. "The Rover"
3. "No Quarter"
4. "The Ocean"
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Speaking of 'the pastry song', what's with Plant so often addressing sexually suggestive lyrics to "mama"? Was this a thing in the 70s? I mean bands using that word as a pet name for a lover; not Oedipal shenanigans. The only other time I've heard it done is by that Zeppelin clone, Greta van Whatsherface.
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Speaking of 'the pastry song', what's with Plant so often addressing sexually suggestive lyrics to "mama"? Was this a thing in the 70s? I mean bands using that word as a pet name for a lover, not Oedipal shenanigans. The only other time I've heard it done is by that Zeppelin clone, Greta van Whatsherface.
Oh, yeah, it was definitely a thing. There is a story about Phil Collins not wanting to sing "mama" on Many Too Many, and Tony Banks had to convince him by telling him Stevie Wonder uses mama in his lyrics all the time. And then of course a few years later Phil wrote a whole song called Mama (which is a really icky lyric).
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I had Immigrant Song at 23. I love it, and it gets in and out in fine fashion, but "da-DUH-duhduh-daduh" for 3 straight minutes sometimes is a bit much.
Achilles is far and away my favorite Zeppelin song. It's really not close. The layering of the guitars (I shudder to think what this must have sounded like live), JPJ's bass work, the drum patterns. The whole thing is excellent from start to finish.
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On that note, do people not like D'yer Mak'er? It's pretty great IMO.
It made my top 5.
:omg:
For me, 2nd worst song in their catalog. Instant skip and station change - every. single. time.
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Two songs in my 5 didn't even make the list! :lol
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I had Immigrant Song at 23. I love it, and it gets in and out in fine fashion, but "da-DUH-duhduh-daduh" for 3 straight minutes sometimes is a bit much.
Achilles is far and away my favorite Zeppelin song. It's really not close. The layering of the guitars (I shudder to think what this must have sounded like live), JPJ's bass work, the drum patterns. The whole thing is excellent from start to finish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWOuzYvksRw
Jimmy's performance is rough, especially in the solos, but it's worth overall, for what it is.
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I originally had Immigrant Song at #6 but ended up shuffling things around and it ended up at #3. Love this song.
I have Achilles Last Stand at #16. I actually had never listened to Presence until listening to a few times for this countdown. I feel like Achilles would probably rank higher for me if I had more familiarity with it.
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On that note, do people not like D'yer Mak'er? It's pretty great IMO.
I love it and ranked it 24th. I was hopeful it would squeeze in, but it ended up 44th.
Tangerine was the one song I had in my top 20 that didn't finish in the top 40. That makes me a little sad. I hear that and think of Almost Famous, every single time.
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I had Immigrant Song at 23. I love it, and it gets in and out in fine fashion, but "da-DUH-duhduh-daduh" for 3 straight minutes sometimes is a bit much.
Achilles is far and away my favorite Zeppelin song. It's really not close. The layering of the guitars (I shudder to think what this must have sounded like live), JPJ's bass work, the drum patterns. The whole thing is excellent from start to finish.
This post does not compute. You complain about Immigrant Song doing the same thing for three minutes, but Achilles does the same thing for over 10 minutes.
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I've been out a bit with my dad's issues but these 2 songs are engraved in my heart, mind and soul forever.
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I never would have pegged Achilles ranking this high.
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I never would have pegged Achilles ranking this high.
Me neither 😉
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Confession: I just learned the other day while listening to Houses of the Holy for the first time that the song that goes "oh oh oh oh oh oh, you don't have to go" is called D'yer Mak'er. If I had made a list, I would have tried to rank it but not had any clue what it was called.
On that note, do people not like D'yer Mak'er? It's pretty great IMO.
Both D'yer Mak'er (a pun on "Jamaica!"; #78 on my list) and The Crunge (#82 on my list) were the result of Bonham playing with traditional beats, the former a mix of reggae and 50's doo-wop, the latter a funk number, but purposefully done so you couldn't dance to it. "The Bridge" is a tongue in cheek reference to James Brown. They were controversial at the time, and according to many critics, led to the mixed reviews for the album.
It's worth noting that "Houses Of The Holy", "The Rover", "Black Country Woman" and "Walter's Walk" were all recorded during these sessions.
Can you imagine this:
Side One
1. "The Song Remains the Same"
2. "The Rain Song"
3. "Over the Hills and Far Away"
4. "Houses Of The Holy"
Side two
1. "Dancing Days"
2. "The Rover"
3. "No Quarter"
4. "The Ocean"
This would have been the best LZ album, hands down. I still don't really care for The Ocean but at least, it is not annoying. I think LZ had a knack for spoiling for what could be a great of perfect albums with a bad apple or two or spoiling what could be a good or great song with an annoying element or two. The cases in point: As great as III is, it contains inexplicably terrible Hats off to Roy Harper, HotH is blemished with Crunge and, maybe, Dyers Maker (even though with the latter, it probably depends on how much you like or dislike reggae. I can't stand it so LZ making it at least tolerable is a feat). IV has songs like Misty Mountain Hop or Battle of Evermore with good or great instrumentals but annoying vocals....and so on.
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Can’t stand the hate for Misty Mountain Hop.
I had it at 7 and Levee at 5. My two highest from Zoso.
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Thanks again to everyone who submitted a list, participated in the thread, etc.! This one was fun.
And with that, here are the top two, which won't surprise anyone...
02 Kashmir
Appeared on 21 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (The Realm, jammindude)
15 Top 10 Finishes
30 years ago, this would have been top 5 for me, but the repetitive nature of the song made the song wear off me over time. I still think it is really good, and I ranked it 20th, but I can't say it is one of my top favorites anymore. That said, I totally get why it is for many, and I fully expected a top 3 finish for it.
01 Stairway to Heaven
Appeared on 21 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (Animal, Mladen, Stadler, TAC, hefaddy42)
18 Top 10 Finishes
Well done, DTF. Going in, I was hoping this wouldn't receive the "it's overrated" or "it's not as good anymore" treatment from submitters, and with 18 top 10 finishes and 5 number 1s, that was not the case. I ranked it 2nd because Over the Hills and Far Away has been my personal favorite for as long as I can remember, but this really is their best song. It is a monster classic for a reason. It is the perfect rock song, in just about every way imaginable.
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02 Kashmir
Appeared on 21 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (The Realm, jammindude)
15 Top 10 Finishes
01 Stairway to Heaven
Appeared on 21 of 21 lists
Highest Finish: 1 (Animal, Mladen, Stadler, TAC, hefaddy42)
18 Top 10 Finishes
I had Kashmir at #11. A monster track. Every time I'd hear it on the radio, it would stop me dead in my tracks. Really powerful.
I had Stairway To Heaven at #1. What can I say. It speaks for itself. Magical.
Top 40 Not Rated
40. D'yer Mak'er Communication Breakdown
39. Custard Pie Misty Mountain Hop
38. Thank You The Battle Of Evermore
37. Carouselambra Since I've Been Loving You
36. Dazed And Confused Good Times Bad Times
35. Living Loving Maid Whole Lotta Love
34. Ramble On Black Dog
33. Dancing Days The Rain Song
32. Celebration Day
31. Achilles Last Stand
30. Rock And Roll
29. Going To California
28. For Your Life
27. All My Love
26. Over The Hills And Far Away
25. Hey Hey What Can I Do
24. Immigrant Song
23. What Is And What Should Never Be
22. The Ocean
21. Trampled Under Foot
20. Down By The Seaside
19. When The Levee Breaks
18. How Many More Times
17. Nobody's Fault But Mine
16. Heartbreaker
15. Fool In The Rain
14. Tea For One
13. Dancing Days
12. Ten Years Gone
11. Kashmir
10. In The Evening
9. No Quarter
8. In My Time Of Dying
7. The Rover
6. The Song Remains The Same
5. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
4. Wearing And Tearing
3. In The Light
2. The Wanton Song
1. Stairway To Heaven
Awesome Job Kev!!!
Thank you.
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Full list with point totals:
01 Stairway to Heaven 740
02 Kashmir 692
03 Achilles Last Stand 584
04 Immigrant Song 535
05 When the Levee Breaks 464
06 No Quarter 458
07 The Rain Song 448
08 Dazed and Confused 434
09 Rock and Roll 432
10 Black Dog 425
11 Whole Lotta Love 424
12 Babe I'm Gonna Leave You 422
13 Good Times Bad Times 411
14 The Song Remains the Same 391
15 Ten Years Gone 390
16 In the Evening 382
17 Over the Hills and Far Away 381
18 Ramble On 380
19 Since I've Been Loving You 373
20 Heartbreaker 372
21 What Is and What Should Never Be 361
22 The Battle of Evermore 349
23 In My Time of Dying 343
24 The Rover 337
25 Trampled Under Foot 330
26 Going to California 307
27 Misty Mountain Hop 306
28 Houses of the Holy 304
29 Communication Breakdown 264
30 The Ocean 252
31 Thank You 243
32 (t) Dancing Days 241
32 (t) How Many More Times 241
34 In the Light 239
35 (t) All My Love 216
35 (t) Fool in the Rain 216
37 Carouselambra 214
38 Nobody's Fault But Mine 212
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do 203
40 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) 195
41 Four Sticks 179
42 Custard Pie 177
43 Gallows Pole 176
44 D'yer Mak'er 167
45 Tangerine 156
46 (t) That's the Way 151
46 (t) The Wanton Song 151
48 Your Time Is Gonna Come 140
49 Celebration Day 132
50 Sick Again 107
51 Friends 100
52 You Shook Me 97
53 Out on the Tiles 94
54 Down by the Seaside 77
55 I Can't Quit You Baby 76
56 The Lemon Song 67
57 Tea for One 63
58 Wearing and Tearing 60
59 Moby Dick 56
60 Bring It On Home 55
61 Travelling Riverside Blues 52
62 I'm Gonna Crawl 50
63 For Your Life 49
64 Night Flight 45
65 South Bound Saurez 42
66 Bron-Y-Aur Stomp 36
67 The Crunge 34
68 Bron-Yr-Aur 32
69 Boogie with Stu 26
70 Hot Dog 17
71 Black Mountain Side 15
72 Baby Come On Home 11
73 Ozone Baby 8
74 (t) Black Country Woman 4
74 (t) Hots On for Nowhere 4
76 Candy Store Rock 2
77(t) Bonzo's Montreux 0
77 (t) Darlene 0
77 (t) Hats off to (Roy) Harper 0
77 (t) Poor Tom 0
77 (t) Royal Orleans 0
77 (t) Walter's Walk 0
77 (t) We're Gonna Groove 0
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Songs I had in my top 40 that did not make the list:
39 Your Time Is Gonna Come
37 Black Country Woman
33 The Wanton Song
32 Down by the Seaside
30 Bron-Yr-Stomp
26 The Lemon Song
24 D'yer Mak'er
14 Tangerine
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Songs I had in my top 40 that did not make the list:
39 Your Time Is Gonna Come
37 Black Country Woman
33 The Wanton Song
32 Down by the Seaside
30 Bron-Yr-Stomp
26 The Lemon Song
24 D'yer Mak'er
14 Tangerine
Much love for these tracks.
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It's hard to argue these as the top-2 collective "favorites". #4 and #5 for me respectively.
Well, at 12 entries of mine Not Ranked, I gather my list is one of the hottest-takes. Largely influenced by my love for III it seems. I can honestly say that Custard Pie not making the list at all is the biggest WTF. I mean, that's a top-3 riff in the LZ catalog afaic. For my ears, it's about a bajillion times better than The Rover. More comments later.
40. Fool in the Rain [35]
39. Bring It On Home [NR]
38. Black Dog [10]
37. The Ocean [30]
36. Dazed and Confused [8]
35. What Is and What Should Never Be [21]
34. The Wanton Song [NR]
33. Misty Mountain Hop [27]
32. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You [10]
31. Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) [40]
30. Heartbreaker [20]
29. Bron-Y-Aur Stomp [NR]
28. Wearing and Tearing [NR]
27. Night Flight [NR]
26. Celebration Day [NR]
25. Friends [NR]
24. Over the Hills and Far Away [17]
23. Good Times Bad Times [13]
22. Whole Lotta Love [11]
21. The Song Remains the Same [14]
20. Out on the Tiles [NR]
19. No Quarter [6]
18. Ten Years Gone [15]
17. Hey, Hey, What Can I Do [39]
16. Rock and Roll [9]
15. Four Sticks [NR]
14. How Many More Times [32]
13. Custard Pie [NR]
12. Achilles Last Stand [3]
11. Carouselambra [37]
10. The Rain Song [7]
9. In My Time of Dying [23]
8. Since I've Been Loving You [19]
7. Gallows Pole [NR]
6. Immigrant Song [4]
5. Kashmir [2]
4. Stairway to Heaven [1]
3. That's the Way [NR]
2. Ramble On [18]
1. The Battle of Evermore [22]
My not ranked:
38. Nobody's Fault But Mine
35. All of My Love
34. In the Light
32. Dancing Days
31. Thank You
29. Communication Breakdown
28. Houses of the Holy
26. Going to California
25. Trampled Under Foot
24. The Rover
16. In the Evening
5. When The Levee Breaks
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Chad, I don't know of Custard Pie not making it is the biggest WTF. I like it, and it made my list, but it was down near the bottom at #39. That's a great riff indeed, but the song is a tad monotonous. That's the thing I found in a lot of these songs that I never really realized before...just how straight line a lot of these tracks actually are.
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Chad, I don't know of Custard Pie not making it is the biggest WTF. I like it, and it made my list, but it was down near the bottom at #39. That's a great riff indeed, but the song is a tad monotonous. That's the thing I found in a lot of these songs that I never really realized before...just how straight line a lot of these tracks actually are.
It could be a me thing, but I always thought it was generally more revered and a Top-5 track from PG - at least, in my circle of musical friends from my teens/20s, it certainly was.
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Chad, I don't know of Custard Pie not making it is the biggest WTF. I like it, and it made my list, but it was down near the bottom at #39. That's a great riff indeed, but the song is a tad monotonous. That's the thing I found in a lot of these songs that I never really realized before...just how straight line a lot of these tracks actually are.
It could be a me thing, but I always thought it was generally more revered and a Top-5 track from PG - at least, in my circle of musical friends from my teens/20s, it certainly was.
I feel like I definitely liked it more when I was a kid.
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On that note, do people not like D'yer Mak'er? It's pretty great IMO.
It made my top 5.
:omg:
For me, 2nd worst song in their catalog. Instant skip and station change - every. single. time.
One of my personal favourites. We've all said it a thousand times, of course, but isn't it amazing how opinions diverge?
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Two of Zeppelin’s proggiest pieces, which I find interesting that they are two of the more revered songs in rock history. People like prog, they just don’t know it!
Kashmir is just a great epic track with a really cool arrangement and that constant drum beat. Not a ton needs to said here, but it would have been right around here if I had made a list.
Stairway is one I always liked but probably did burn out on at one point just from rock radio. However, a couple years ago I realized I probably hadn’t heard it in 15+ years. Listening to it again now, it really is excellent as it winds through it’s various sections. Iconic, and definitely worthy of this finish.
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Wow. I expected Stairway to win by much wider margin. But looking at the list with point totals and the gap between n. 2 and 3 and further down, it was more a case of Kashmir doing really well than Stairway doing badly.
Speaking of Kashmir, I ranked it at 5. It is a bit of slog and vocals are kind of monotone... but....the riff, groove, atmosphere, all are just unique.
There was no doubt about what my n.1 is going to be. I have loved Stairway since the moment I heard the opening guitar arpeggios joined by the recorder for the first time...I have heard it quite a few times since then and I have played and sung it even more (hopefully better than the numerous budding guitarists in music stores WilliamMunny and Stadler were talking about). I even played it at my brother's wedding ceremony. And I still haven't gotten tired of it. Pure beauty.
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40 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) #25
39 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do #39!
38 Nobody's Fault But Mine #11
37 Carouselambra #24
35 (t) All My Love NR
35 (t) Fool In The Rain NR
34 In The Light NR
32 (t) Dancing Days #7
32 (t) How Many More Times NR
31 Thank You #3
30 The Ocean NR
29 Communication Breakdown #28
28 Houses of the Holy #9
27 Misty Mountain Hop #32
26 Going to California #29
25 Trampled Under Foot #6
24 The Rover #26
23 In My Time of Dying NR
22 The Battle of Evermore #15
21 What Is and What Should Never Be #27
20 Heartbreaker #35
19 Since I've Been Loving You NR
18 Ramble On #13
17 Over the Hills #14
16 In the Evening #12
15 Ten Years Gone #19
14 The Song Remains the Same #10
13 Good Times Bad Times #38
12 Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You #20
11 Whole Lotta Love #8
10 Black Dog #17
09 Rock & Roll #4
08 Dazed and Confused #31
07 The Rain Song #34
06 No Quarter #23
05 When the Levee Breaks NR
04 Immigrant Song #18
03 Achilles Last Stand #1
02 Kashmir #2!
01 Stairway to Heaven #5
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Top 40
40. The Wanton Song
39. Out On The Tiles
38. Nobody's Fault But Mine
37. Celebration Day
36. Babe I'm Going To Leave You
35. Ramble On
34. Bring It On Home
33. Bron-Yr-Aur
32. The Ocean
31. Fool In The Rain
30. Baby Come On Home
29. In My Time Of Dying
28. In The Evening
27. When The Levee Breaks
26. How Many More Times
25. Traveling Riverside Blues
24. Four Sticks
23. Sick Again
22. Good Times, Bad Times
21. Houses Of The Holy
20. Down By The Seaside
19. No Quarter
18. Night Flight
17. Achilles Last Stand
16. Carouselambra
15. What Is And What Should Never Be
14. In The Light
13. Tangerine
12. Kashmir
11. Over The Hills And Far Away
10. Your Time Is Gonna Come
9. Misty Mountain Hop
8. Hey Hey What Can I Do
7. The Song Remains The Same
6. Going To California
5. The Rain Song
4. The Rover
3. The Battle Of Evermore
2. Ten Years Gone
1. Stairway To Heaven
Not Rated:
42. Rock And Roll
44. Dancing Days
45. Living Loving Maid (She's Just A Woman)
48. Thank You
50. Immigrant Song
51. Heartbreaker
52. All My Love
53. Black Dog
62. Whole Lotta Love
63. Trampled Underfoot
72. Communication Breakdown
74. Dazed And Confused
75. Since I've Been Loving You
Note: As you can tell, I LOVE Physical Graffiti; it's a top ten all time album for me. Even the lesser tracks are solid, IMO. It and IV are probably the two best albums in the catalogue for just putting on and listening to all the way through. All killer and no filler.
My biggest surprise is "Bring It On Home". I thought that would be higher. Close second(s) are: Tangerine and Your Time Is Gonna Come (one of the better early songs to mix Plant's regular singing and upper register singing).
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Sorry that personal life tragedies have prevented me from participating more… but here’s my list.
40. Bring it on Home
39. Immigrant Song
38. You Shook Me
37. South Bound Saurez
36. For Your Life
35. Celebration Day
34. Heartbreaker
33. Hey, Hey, What Can I Do?
32. In the Evening
31. Gallows Pole
30. Tea for One
29. The Song Remains the Same
28. The Rover
27. Whole Lotta Love
26. How Many More Times
25. Nobody’s Fault But Mine
24. Custard Pie
23. The Ocean
22. The Battle of Evermore
21. In the Light
20. Over the Hills and Far Away
19. Stairway to Heaven
18. Black Dog
17. Houses of the Holy
16. What Is and What Should Never Be
15. Friends
14. The Wanton Song
13. Rock and Roll
12. Dazed and Confused
11. Achilles Last Stand
10. Trampled Under Foot
9. Babe I’m Gonna Leave You
8. In My Time of Dying
7. Misty Mountain Hop
6. Since I’ve Been Loving You
5. When the Levee Breaks
4. The Rain Song
3. Ten Years Gone
2. No Quarter
1. Kashmir
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For anyone with Bring it on Home, Celebration Day, Friends, Out on the Tiles, Gallows Pole, Four Sticks, Custard Pie, Night Flight, Wearing & Tearing.
:hifive:
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For anyone with Bring it on Home, Celebration Day, Friends, Out on the Tiles, Gallows Pole, Four Sticks, Custard Pie, Night Flight, Wearing & Tearing.
:hifive:
I got most of those; and those I don't - Custard Pie, Gallows Pole, Friends - they could easily have been there.
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For anyone with Bring it on Home, Celebration Day, Friends, Out on the Tiles, Gallows Pole, Four Sticks, Custard Pie, Night Flight, Wearing & Tearing.
:hifive:
I got most of those; and those I don't - Custard Pie, Gallows Pole, Friends - they could easily have been there.
:hithree:
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I had Immigrant Song at 23. I love it, and it gets in and out in fine fashion, but "da-DUH-duhduh-daduh" for 3 straight minutes sometimes is a bit much.
Achilles is far and away my favorite Zeppelin song. It's really not close. The layering of the guitars (I shudder to think what this must have sounded like live), JPJ's bass work, the drum patterns. The whole thing is excellent from start to finish.
This post does not compute. You complain about Immigrant Song doing the same thing for three minutes, but Achilles does the same thing for over 10 minutes.
Nah...Achilles cycles through different patterns, all of which change throughout the song. And I'm not complaining too much about Immigrant Song. It's still a great song.
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I had Kashmir at 3 and Stairway at 4. They're both just incredible songs, and I easily could have had them in the other order (or even interchangeable with my #2 - The Song Remains the same). They're played a lot for a reason. The build up and climax of Stairway is just perfect.
My rankings (32/40)...
40 Hot Dog
39 D'yer Mak'er
38 Living Loving Maid (She’s Just a Woman)
37 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do
36 South Bound Suarez
35 Moby Dick
34 Over the Hills and Far Away
33 Dancing Days
32 No Quarter
31 Dazed and Confused
30 Misty Mountain Hop
29 Trampled Under Foot
28 Ramble On
27 Good Times Bad Times
26 Bron-Yr-Aur
25 Houses of the Holy
24 The Ocean
23 The Immigrant Song
22 The Rain Song
21 Going to California
20 Four Sticks
19 Custard Pie
18 When the Levee Breaks
17 In the Evening
16 All My Love
15 Heartbreaker
14 Out on the Tiles
13 Fool in the Rain
12 Rock and Roll
11 The Battle of Evermore
10 Communication Breakdown
9 Whole Lotta Love
8 Black Dog
7 The Rover
6 Ten Years Gone
5 Carouselambra
4 Stairway to Heaven
3 Kashmir
2 The Song Remains the Same
1 Achilles Last Stand
NOT RANKED:
Nobody's Fault But Mine
In the Light
How Many More Times
Thank You
In My Time of Dying
What Is and What Should Never Be
Since I've Been Loving You
Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
I'm actually a little surprised I nailed 32/40. Bummed that Tiles, Custard and Four Sticks didn't make the cut, but they were all really close. Bron-Yr-Aur is right under there with Rik Emmett's and Steve Howe's solo acoustic pieces.
Thanks, Kev! What's next?
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Thanks, Kev! What's next?
And by that Kev, we mean what's next after Porcupine Tree?
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I had Kashmir at #6 and Stairway at #2.
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Thanks, Kev! What's next?
And by that Kev, we mean what's next after Porcupine Tree?
Fret not. I have a few good ideas in mind. :hat :hat
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Thanks, Kev! What's next?
And by that Kev, we mean what's next after Porcupine Tree?
:lol
I agree, second the thanks and secretly (or nor secretly at all) wish for Metallica.
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Had Kashmir at #15. It's a classic song but I feel it outstays its initially very warm welcome a little. And Stairway to Heaven landed at #2. It's just a flawless song.
Final standings (bolded and underlined are songs that didn't make the list):
40. The Battle of Evermore
39. Immigrant Song
38. Over The Hills And Far Away
37. Living Loving Maid (She’s Just A Woman)
36. Misty Mountain Hop
35. Tangerine
34. All My Love
33. Black Dog
32. The Lemon Song
31. Going to California
30. In The Light
29. Houses of the Holy
28. No Quarter
27. Good Times Bad Times
26. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
25. Ten Years Gone
24. Heartbreaker
23. The Song Remains The Same
22. The Rain Song
21. Thank You
20. Dancing Days
19. Whole Lotta Love
18. What Is And What Should Never Be
17. For Your Life
16. How Many More Times
15. Kashmir
14. Rock and Roll
13. The Ocean
12. Dazed and Confused
11. In The Evening
10. Nobody’s Fault But Mine
9. Achilles Last Stand
8. Custard Pie
7. In My Time of Dying
6. Sick Again
5. D’Yer Maker
4. The Rover
3. Since I’ve Been Loving You
2. Stairway to Heaven
1. When The Levee Breaks
Not ranked:
Hey Hey What Can I Do
Carouselambra
Fool In The Rain
Communication Breakdown
Trampled Under Foot
Ramble On
85% (34 from 40) is my highest 'score' since participating in these countdowns!
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40 The Wanton Song
39 How Many More Times
38 Dancing Days
37 Ramble On
36 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman)
35 Four Sticks
34 Achilles Last Stand
33 Communication Breakdown
32 Nobody's Fault But Mine
31 Gallows Pole
30 Over the Hills and Far Away
29 Misty Mountain Hop
28 Going to California
27 All My Love
26 The Ocean
25 In My Time of Dying
24 Whole Lotta Love
23 Dazed and Confused
22 Thank You
21 In the Light
20 The Rain Song
19 No Quarter
18 Houses of the Holy
17 What Is and What Should Never Be
16 Good Times Bad Times
15 Boogie with Stu
14 Your Time Is Gonna Come
13 Trampled Under Foot
12 When the Levee Breaks
11 Tangerine
10 In the Evening
9 Black Dog
8 Rock and Roll
7 The Battle of Evermore
6 Immigrant Song
5 Hey, Hey, What Can I Do
4 Ten Years Gone
3 Kashmir
2 Stairway to Heaven
1 Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
I think I bolded the songs that didn't make the list properly. The only thing that jumps out at me is how high Achilles landed. I did not see that coming. I just never got in to that song much. Really happy D’Yer Mak'er didn't make the cut. I hate that song.
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Really happy D’Yer Mak'er didn't make the cut. I hate that song.
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Thanks, Kev! What's next?
And by that Kev, we mean what's next after Porcupine Tree?
Fret not. I have a few good ideas in mind. :hat :hat
Well...that excludes Porcupine Tree. Metallica or Styx or Judas Priest would be cool. Or the Beatles?
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If there was a countdown wishlist, Opeth would be very high on mine (either just death metal era Opeth or complete one). And I would be definitely in for The Beatles or Metallica. (Sure, The Beatles do have a lot of songs so even Top 40 could be quite a task for the threadrunner. But still a piece of cake compared to the singers countdown ;D)
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I had Kashmir at #2 and Stairway at #1. Finally I nailed it. ;D
Kev, good job on the countdown, it's fun every time. Your updates are something to look forward to every day. :tup
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Indeed! Where are my manners? Thanks, Kev, as always. And thanks to everyone who posted. Read them all and disagreed with most :lol
I'm pleased Stairway won despite it being so familiar to us all. It's one of those songs that just never outstays its welcome for me. Bit like Creeping Death.
And as I said earlier in the thread, my personal favourite version of it is the one from the vinyl edition of The Song Remains the Same (although it's stitched together. And thanks Stadler for reminding of the website).
I first heard that album when I was about 16. I delivered a free newspaper on Fridays after school around the estate. Can't remember how it came about but there was a chap on the round who must have engaged me in conversation because he suddenly produced the vinyl version of The Song Remains the Same and told me to give it a listen. I don't think I'd heard any Zep really before then, not to the point of recognition, anyway. So I borrowed it, heard *that* version of Stairway and returned the record to him a couple of weeks later. I felt a bit suspicious of the chap at the time. I would guess he was 30 or 35 but everyone above 20 looks old when you're 16. I wish I'd made an effort with him now. He was probably just delighted to be able to share his passion for music with someone who was relatively new to the genre.
Anyway, I bought a copy of the original release vinyl release of The Song Remains the Same a couple of years ago, it goes for pennies. And I still love putting it on while poring over the gatefold sleeve.
"Does anybody remember laughter?"
Indeed, Robert. Indeed.
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Couple of quick thoughts on my submissions that ended up not making the cut:
39. Bring It On Home - love that riff, and Bonham's continuous run of fills is fantastic
34. The Wanton Song - one of the heavier rock songs in the catalogue. Love the drum beats and oft-changing time signatures.
29. Bron-Y-Aur Stomp - just a fun fun fun tune - especially camp-fire side, pounding back some beverages with your boys. This is aided by the fact it follows my #3 all-time song, and provides a nice counter-punch.
28. Wearing and Tearing - the only redeeming thing on Coda. Great heavy rocker song perfect for the late 70s/early 80s. Clearly too heavy/not enough keys for ITTOD.
27. Night Flight - I often waffle as to whether I prefer this, or Ten Years Gone... for some reason I put them in the same category as the 'next best' songs on PG.
26. Celebration Day - love III
25. Friends - LOVE III ... and I find that this + Celebration Day almost as inseparable as HB/LLM
20. Out on the Tiles - Heaviest song on an otherwise mellow album.
15. Four Sticks - I was largely impartial about this song until I saw it in 1994 when UnLEDed was broadcast for the first time. Never knew why it was called "Four Stick" until that point. Beastly
13. Custard Pie - already mentioned it... one of the best riffs in their catalogue. Still amazed this didn't make Top 40
7. Gallows Pole - UnLEDed also made me a bigger fan of this one than I'd initially been.
3. That's the Way - guitar and vocals + great lyrics and amazing melodies. This always gives me goosebumps (I'm gettin them now just thinking about the main guitar chords).
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These are mine that didn't end up in the overall top 40, there's ten of them:
3 I'm Gonna Crawl
10 The Crunge
12 Sick Again
24 That's the Way
27 Friends
28 D'yer Mak'er
32 Custard Pie
36 Tangerine
37 Hots On for Nowhere
40 Out on the Tiles
Also, I regret not including Hats off to Roy Harper and Hot dog. ;D
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I was the only one to rank Boogie With Stu! Always thought that was a fun little song that never failed to put a smile on my face. And while it didn't rank, it's nice to see others chime in with some love for Tangerine. Also... somehow overlooked Friends, that should have made my list.
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34. The Wanton Song - one of the heavier rock songs in the catalogue. Love the drum beats and oft-changing time signatures.
This is one that I inadvertently overlooked. I should've had it in the 20s (or higher). It's entirely in 4/4, but it does have a fair amount of syncopation, which is something that Zep used well on many occasions.
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34. The Wanton Song - one of the heavier rock songs in the catalogue. Love the drum beats and oft-changing time signatures.
This is one that I inadvertently overlooked. I should've had it in the 20s (or higher). It's entirely in 4/4, but it does have a fair amount of syncopation, which is something that Zep used well on many occasions.
We’ll shit. Shows you how much I remembered (learned) about music theory.
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34. The Wanton Song - one of the heavier rock songs in the catalogue. Love the drum beats and oft-changing time signatures.
This is one that I inadvertently overlooked. I should've had it in the 20s (or higher). It's entirely in 4/4, but it does have a fair amount of syncopation, which is something that Zep used well on many occasions.
We’ll shit. Shows you how much I remembered (learned) about music theory.
They had a lot of sneaky odd time stuff (bridge of Stairway before the guitar solo) and a bunch of stuff in 4/4 that sounds odd because they messed with the beat and used syncopation. Screwed up Bonham on more than one occasion if I understand correctly what I've read.
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I think I love prog because so many bands today have lost dimension. When I hear Led Zeppelin, their songs are so many styles, and that included in a single song. Dimension is lost in popular music these days.
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Couple of quick thoughts on my submissions that ended up not making the cut:
39. Bring It On Home - love that riff, and Bonham's continuous run of fills is fantastic
34. The Wanton Song - one of the heavier rock songs in the catalogue. Love the drum beats and oft-changing time signatures.
29. Bron-Y-Aur Stomp - just a fun fun fun tune - especially camp-fire side, pounding back some beverages with your boys. This is aided by the fact it follows my #3 all-time song, and provides a nice counter-punch.
28. Wearing and Tearing - the only redeeming thing on Coda. Great heavy rocker song perfect for the late 70s/early 80s. Clearly too heavy/not enough keys for ITTOD.
27. Night Flight - I often waffle as to whether I prefer this, or Ten Years Gone... for some reason I put them in the same category as the 'next best' songs on PG.
26. Celebration Day - love III
25. Friends - LOVE III ... and I find that this + Celebration Day almost as inseparable as HB/LLM
20. Out on the Tiles - Heaviest song on an otherwise mellow album.
15. Four Sticks - I was largely impartial about this song until I saw it in 1994 when UnLEDed was broadcast for the first time. Never knew why it was called "Four Stick" until that point. Beastly
13. Custard Pie - already mentioned it... one of the best riffs in their catalogue. Still amazed this didn't make Top 40
7. Gallows Pole - UnLEDed also made me a bigger fan of this one than I'd initially been.
3. That's the Way - guitar and vocals + great lyrics and amazing melodies. This always gives me goosebumps (I'm gettin them now just thinking about the main guitar chords).
I had "That's The Way" at 22, but it easily could've made my Top 5 on another day–I LOVE the song for all of the reasons you described, and yes, there is something about the way Plant sings that melody that just gets me every time. The version from How The West Was Won is pretty spectacular as well.
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Sorry, been away on holidays so I have missed nearly the whole top half of this countdown.
Just took a look and had a quick read through on what I missed. Have to say that I totally agree with jingle.boy here - can't believe Custard Pie did not make it!
I also think I am a bit of an outlier to the consensus here, I had 14 songs on my list that didn't make the top 40. There was really a big lack of love for Led Zep III in this countdown.
My final list is below, in bold didn't make it:
1 Kashmir
2 Achilles Last Stand
3 Immigrant Song
4 Stairway to Heaven
5 Ramble On
6 Dazed and Confused
7 Heartbreaker
8 Black Dog
9 Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Women)
10 When the Levee Breaks
11 Communication Breakdown
12 Whole Lotta Love
13 Custard Pie
14 The Rover
15 Misty Mountain Hop
16 Good Times Bad Times
17 No Quarter
18 Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
19 What is and What Should Never Be
20 Moby Dick
21 The Song Remains The Same
22 Trampled Under Foot
23 Rock and Roll
24 In My Time of Dying
25 You Shook Me
26 The Lemon Song
27 Thank You
28 Bring it On Home
29 Over the Hills and Far Away
30 Houses of the Holy
31 Down by the Seaside
32 The Wanton Song
33 I Can't Quit You Baby
34 How Many More Times
35 Since I've Been Loving You
36 Gallows Pole
37 Celebration Day
38 Out On The Tiles
39 Tangerine
40 That's The Way
As always, thanks Kev for running this countdown. Now I just need to finalise my PT list and submit.
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^^ How Many More Times made the list at #32.
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^^ How Many More Times made the list at #32.
Ah yes! It did, thanks Dave. I did this quickly so thought there was every chance I would stuff it up. So I had 13 songs that didn't make my own list these were:
Hey, Hey, What Can I Do
Nobody's Fault But Mine
Carouselambra
All My Love
Fool in the Rain
In The Light
Dancing Days
The Ocean
Going to California
The Battle of Evermore
In The Evening
Ten Years Gone
The Rain Song
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34. The Wanton Song - one of the heavier rock songs in the catalogue. Love the drum beats and oft-changing time signatures.
This is one that I inadvertently overlooked. I should've had it in the 20s (or higher). It's entirely in 4/4, but it does have a fair amount of syncopation, which is something that Zep used well on many occasions.
We’ll shit. Shows you how much I remembered (learned) about music theory.
They had a lot of sneaky odd time stuff (bridge of Stairway before the guitar solo) and a bunch of stuff in 4/4 that sounds odd because they messed with the beat and used syncopation. Screwed up Bonham on more than one occasion if I understand correctly what I've read.
That was the beauty and magic of Zeppelin, though, the time. IMO, all the covers always played it too strict to both tempo and time signature. Heart usually got it right, and Temple Of The Dog got it right, too. I think it was Dave that pointed out a moment on "How The West Was Won" that perfectly highlights how you can hear the band moving toward a trainwreck, then at the last moment Bonham pulls them all to safety. To me, those were always the best (live) moments for Zeppelin.
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02 Kashmir #6 a main reason that Side Two of PG is one of my all time Top Five nonQueen album sides.
01 Stairway To Heaven #2 all the accolades have already been said
Did not make the list (many were close)
40 Bring It On Home
39 Candy Store Rock
37 Four Sticks
34 Your Time Is Gonna Come
33 Down By The Seaside
31 Hot Dog (as TAC put for his #3 pick, this my 'HELL NO' chance of making the DTF list. But...back in the 80s, a friend's band would often play this at the end of their break, turn it up, maybe square dance for 15-30 seconds, yell 'yee hah' into the mike at the end, and start with the next. Great memories)
29 I’m Gonna Crawl
28 Custard Pie
26 South Bound Saurez
24 You Shook Me
13 D'yer Mak'er (I had heard two songs from I, two from II (still no 'Heartbreaker' :D, one from III, and four from IV prior to this. So, if you were 15 when this was released, you’d understand😉)
I’m kicking myself for leaving a few off my list (and I'd only avoid one…). I just wasn't able to give this full attention at the time.
37 Carouselambra
34 In The Light
32 (t) How Many More Times :facepalm:
31 Thank You
28 Houses Of The Holy :facepalm:
24 The Rover :facepalm:
15 Ten Years Gone
14 The Song Remains The Same
12 Babe I’m Gonna Leave You :facepalm:
07 The Rain Song
03 Achilles Last Stand
From reading the feedback throughout this (other than a couple of individuals), just let me add a few onto their lists, and I wouldn't have a complaint in listening to their lists.
Thanks again, Kev. :tup A top 50 would have been easier. (same with 40 for Billy Joel 😉)