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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: KevShmev on September 11, 2022, 06:09:29 AM
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Feels like we need this thread so we can talk about the set list and the tour without spoiling anything for those with tickets to see them who do not want to know anything.
Read this thread at our own peril.
Tour dates:
https://porcupinetree.com/tour-dates/
Setlist from the first show last night in Toronto:
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/porcupine-tree/2022/meridian-hall-toronto-on-canada-13b0e1b5.html
Some thoughts:
-Bummer to see nothing from Signify or before, but only so much time.
-All 7 songs from the new proper album were played, but none of the 3 bonus tracks.
-Loved seeing Last Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth Before It Is Recycled played again!!
-The live PT debut of Collapse the Light into Earth...awesome.
-I was pleasantly surprised to see that they played I Drive the Hearse, my favorite song from The Incident. I thought they would ignore that album.
-Not surprised to see In Absentia and Fear... get heavy representation on the 00 albums, as they said those albums would get the most love, but only one song from Deadwing is a bit disheartening.
Overall, fantastic set list. Still bummed they aren't coming to STL.
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Also really happy PT is playing I Drive the Hearse, wonderful and gorgeous song! :hefdaddy
Deadwing is my fave PT album, it could have at least more 2 songs from it. Also something from Signify/Stupid Dream would be nice too. But I'm think it's great that they are truly promoting the (excellent) new album.
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As someone who absolutely adores the IA -> FoaBP run, isn't crazy about TI, and quite likes the new album, this is a pretty fantastic setlist for me.
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Also really happy PT is playing I Drive the Hearse, wonderful and gorgeous song! :hefdaddy
Deadwing is my fave PT album, it could have at least more 2 songs from it. Also something from Signify/Stupid Dream would be nice too. But I'm think it's great that they are truly promoting the (excellent) new album.
They did play Even Less, track 1 from Stupid Dream, but more from that album is always better. :tup :tup
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Sure! :facepalm:
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Tour finally starts tonight. :metal :metal
Can't wait to see the set list to see what they are playing.
My predictions - The set will be heavy on In Absentia, Deadwing, FOABP, and C/C of course, and they'll throw in two pre-IA songs. My guesses will be "Even Less" and "Dislocated Day".
I'm curious as to how much of C/C will be played, and if they'll include any of the three bonus tracks in the set as well.
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Totally called it on "Even Less". An absolute classic. I'm sure it was only the album version but I could hope for the full 14-minute version! :lol
Having "Buying New Soul" and the full version of "Anesthetize" is pretty epic. I think the biggest surprise has to be "Collapse Light Into Earth" - I hope video of that pops up sometime!
I hope the set stays largely the same for an eventual live album release.
-Marc.
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Cool setlist. I think they probably could’ve removed Muzak/Sentimental or Fear and stuck in some pre-Stupid Dream songs for fans of those albums, but having Buying New Soul and the full Anesthetize is really good.
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Given that it is their first tour in 12 years, I get playing some of the tried and true mainstays, so I am good with Muzak, Sleep Together, Even Less and Fear all getting played.
They did say that a song from In Absentia that had never been played before was getting played, so it had to be Lips of Ashes or Collapse..., the only two from the album to never get played, so I thought Collapse... was almost a given. Surprised to see it as an encore, however.
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That's a good setlist. Still hoping to score a ticket for SF, but certainly looking forward to the LA show.
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Alright I bit the bullet. Just bought my ticket for the DC show next Sunday. :metal
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I think the setlist is good, though fairly predictable and safe. I think to really take it from good to great you'd probably replace at least 2 songs with something truly unexpected and get some more representation from the first 4 albums.
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I think the setlist is good, though fairly predictable and safe. I think to really take it from good to great you'd probably replace at least 2 songs with something truly unexpected and get some more representation from the first 4 albums.
Like Linton Samuel Dawson :biggrin: Or pull out And the Swallows Dance Above the Sun for the LoL's
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I don't think SW holds the early PT material in high esteem anymore, and Harrison has no attachment to that era since he didn't play on any of it, so unless Richard was doing a hard sell on any song from the early years, there was likely no one in the room pushing hard for any of it.
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I don't think SW holds the early PT material in high esteem anymore, and Harrison has no attachment to that era since he didn't play on any of it, so unless Richard was doing a hard sell on any song from the early years, there was likely no one in the room pushing hard for any of it.
Yeah, that makes sense. Although Gavin Harrison did re-record drums for the remastered version of Up the Downstair. I love that album and it would have been cool to hear something from that.
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Well, don't get me started on how Gavin plays the older stuff (that he didn't play on originally). It's probably best that they don't play it, to be honest. I didn't think of it before, but not playing Hatesong this time around is a blessing, that way his overplaying doesn't taint yet another inevitable live release. He's a great drummer, but his overplaying can be irksome.
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Well, don't get me started on how Gavin plays the older stuff (that he didn't play on originally). It's probably best that they don't play it, to be honest. I didn't think of it before, but not playing Hatesong this time around is a blessing, that way his overplaying doesn't taint yet another inevitable live release. He's a great drummer, but his overplaying can be irksome.
We'll have to agree to disagree there. I love the way Gavin plays Chris Maitland's parts. Don't get me wrong, I also loved Maitland's drumming too. Then again I'm also a drummer, so some overplaying live doesn't bother me in the slightest.
As an aside, I think it's good Gavin re-did the drum parts on Up the Downstair, since the original was a drum machine and didn't sound all that great.
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Well, don't get me started on how Gavin plays the older stuff (that he didn't play on originally). It's probably best that they don't play it, to be honest. I didn't think of it before, but not playing Hatesong this time around is a blessing, that way his overplaying doesn't taint yet another inevitable live release. He's a great drummer, but his overplaying can be irksome.
We'll have to agree to disagree there. I love the way Gavin plays Chris Maitland's parts. Don't get me wrong, I also loved Maitland's drumming too. Then again I'm also a drummer, so some overplaying live doesn't bother me in the slightest.
As an aside, I think it's good Gavin re-did the drum parts on Up the Downstair, since the original was a drum machine and didn't sound all that great.
Eh, there are some specific drum fills on the original Up the Downstair that I loved that Gavin not only did differently on the remaster, but overplayed, because what a laid back, trippy album needs is overplayed drum rolls. :facepalm: :facepalm:
Not trying to pick on Gavin, but to me he is like the Jordan Rudess of drums: he often overplays the crap out of something just because he can.
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https://youtu.be/I-j6qwAofec
Someone has uploaded their audience recording of the (almost entire) Toronto show on YouTube.
-Marc.
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2nd show tonight, so I guess we'll see if the set list remains the same or if any spots will get rotated. Given that it's not a long tour, my guess is the set list will be the same every night, but time will tell.
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https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/porcupine-tree/2022/place-bell-laval-qc-canada-3b0c95f.html
If this is accurate, it looks like they dropped "Sentimental".
-Marc.
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If anyone is going to the shows before me (mine is the 28th) and buys any merch - can you snap a pic? Also, are the shirts the softer cotton, or the rough old school ones? I don't buy a lot of concert shirts any longer, but if it's a softer shirt and not insanely priced, I'd like one. I stupidly didn't get one on The Incident tour in San Fran 10 years ago.
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I can do that.
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Thanks to Vmadera00, I'll be at the Radio City show on Friday
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I can do that.
Thanks! :metal
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That triangle-shaped Closure/Continuation shirt seems very neat for a shirt-design. $40.00 though......
Wouldn't mind seeing this tour at the Greek Theater in LA if the price is right, but I'm out of town that day, but I'm sure it's been something people want to see and I hope people enjoy it.
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That orange shirt is hideous. :lol :lol
I haven't bought concert t's since the mid 90s anyway, but if PT was coming here, I sure wouldn't throw money away on those.
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Joe, did you see if they were selling any vinyl?
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3 different Vinyls for the new album.
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That, for my tastes, is an excellent set list.
Really wish I was able to hit one of these shows.
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how are ticket sales and attendance versus DT in us
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I would say similar. It wasn't full capacity and with the seats vs. standing room is was more like 3000.
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Well, don't get me started on how Gavin plays the older stuff (that he didn't play on originally). It's probably best that they don't play it, to be honest. I didn't think of it before, but not playing Hatesong this time around is a blessing, that way his overplaying doesn't taint yet another inevitable live release. He's a great drummer, but his overplaying can be irksome.
We'll have to agree to disagree there. I love the way Gavin plays Chris Maitland's parts. Don't get me wrong, I also loved Maitland's drumming too. Then again I'm also a drummer, so some overplaying live doesn't bother me in the slightest.
As an aside, I think it's good Gavin re-did the drum parts on Up the Downstair, since the original was a drum machine and didn't sound all that great.
Eh, there are some specific drum fills on the original Up the Downstair that I loved that Gavin not only did differently on the remaster, but overplayed, because what a laid back, trippy album needs is overplayed drum rolls. :facepalm: :facepalm:
Not trying to pick on Gavin, but to me he is like the Jordan Rudess of drums: he often overplays the crap out of something just because he can.
HAHA
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That triangle-shaped Closure/Continuation shirt seems very neat for a shirt-design. $40.00 though......
Wouldn't mind seeing this tour at the Greek Theater in LA if the price is right, but I'm out of town that day, but I'm sure it's been something people want to see and I hope people enjoy it.
I like the hoodies, but that's about it. I also like the care the Merch people put into tucking the arms into the front pocket. :) :) :)
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I binged today at work listening to PT all day. Very much looking forward to the show tomorrow night in Philly. They are playing The Met where I saw DT earlier this year and that was a very pleasant concert experience. I'm sure they won't disappoint! Also very much want to see what Randy and the bass player add.
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I binged today at work listening to PT all day. Very much looking forward to the show tomorrow night in Philly. They are playing The Met where I saw DT earlier this year and that was a very pleasant concert experience. I'm sure they won't disappoint! Also very much want to see what Randy and the bass player add.
They played the same venue a DT in Toronto too - it made me realize how loud DT was. I was sitting closer to the stage for PT and didn't need any ear protection. For DT I was further and I couldn't tell the music apart without ear plugs.
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I binged today at work listening to PT all day. Very much looking forward to the show tomorrow night in Philly. They are playing The Met where I saw DT earlier this year and that was a very pleasant concert experience. I'm sure they won't disappoint! Also very much want to see what Randy and the bass player add.
They played the same venue a DT in Toronto too - it made me realize how loud DT was. I was sitting closer to the stage for PT and didn't need any ear protection. For DT I was further and I couldn't tell the music apart without ear plugs.
DT has played Radio City before, but they could not play that venue today with their current crowd draw. Looks like tonight's concert is fairly well sold, but lots of tickets still available. Still, I'd say its a better turn out than DT, but DT also hasn't been hibernating for awhile. Radio City is a beautiful venue though, I'm excited to see a show there again although it sounds like this is going to be similar to DT's TA performance there with the ushers running around telling people to get off their phones.
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I binged today at work listening to PT all day. Very much looking forward to the show tomorrow night in Philly. They are playing The Met where I saw DT earlier this year and that was a very pleasant concert experience. I'm sure they won't disappoint! Also very much want to see what Randy and the bass player add.
They played the same venue a DT in Toronto too - it made me realize how loud DT was. I was sitting closer to the stage for PT and didn't need any ear protection. For DT I was further and I couldn't tell the music apart without ear plugs.
DT plays loud, but I think more of it has to do with the attention they each pay to sounding good. PT on The Incident tour was the best sounding show I've been to. It was still plenty loud, but you could hear the timbre of every different cymbal. It was quite impressive. I've seen DT play relatively quiet, and it was nowhere near as good. I reckon the different is one of the bands being led by a guy with a fantastic ear for sound.
Radio City is a beautiful venue though, I'm excited to see a show there again although it sounds like this is going to be similar to DT's TA performance there with the ushers running around telling people to get off their phones.
Those guys were assholes! :lol
Funny thing is that my buddy was back up there two weeks later to see Opeth, and despite the much more raucous crowd the ushers were all really cool and low key. Night and day difference. Part of the reason I've long maintained that DT specifically wants the ushers to be hardassed beyond reason.
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Radio City is a beautiful venue though, I'm excited to see a show there again although it sounds like this is going to be similar to DT's TA performance there with the ushers running around telling people to get off their phones.
Those guys were assholes! :lol
Funny thing is that my buddy was back up there two weeks later to see Opeth, and despite the much more raucous crowd the ushers were all really cool and low key. Night and day difference. Part of the reason I've long maintained that DT specifically wants the ushers to be hardassed beyond reason.
As much as I hated the ushers, I don't blame them. You are 100% correct, they just followed DT's rules just like this is Porcupine Tree's rules. I doubt the venue wants to enforce it, but they will do as they are paid to.
I'm actually curious though. As much as I snuck video into that DT show, the ushers seemed to let me film from the concessions area where there is an opening to see the main hall (but I didn't want to leave my friend alone in the seat next to me). I'm going to see if I can get some clips from there tonight and if they allow me. Otherwise, I don't think I'm going to bother trying to be sneaky about it and just keep my phone in my pocket (I didn't even bring my camera with me today). According to some youtube comments from the few videos out there, they do let you take your camera out for the final song.
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*PHOTOS*
Thanks my man! :metal
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That IA litho is bad ass. Pricey, but not AS pricey as the pro matte and frame job will cost. May have to snatch that up.
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Thanks to Vmadera00, I'll be at the Radio City show on Friday
Hope you enjoyed the show :metal
Thought the show was great, did not expect the new album in full but I think the songs sounded good live. If I were to make changes I would've dropped Sleep Together and Sentimental to play more Deadwing or IA.
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Sounds like Sentimental, which was dropped at the 2nd and 3rd shows, was brought back last night, and I Drive the Hearse was cut at last night's show. :( :(
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Band was tight and sound was good. Thanks again Victor and nice seeing you during intermission.
Sounds like Sentimental, which was dropped at the 2nd and 3rd shows, was brought back last night, and I Drive the Hearse was cut at last night's show. :( :(
Yes, it's true.
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On my way to Philly for round 2, but I thought last night was fantastic. The band sounded great and the setlist was aces.
Band was tight and sound was good. Thanks again Victor and nice seeing you during intermission.
Sorry I didn't get a chance to say hi, cell service was abysmal in there for me.
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Sounds like Sentimental, which was dropped at the 2nd and 3rd shows, was brought back last night, and I Drive the Hearse was cut at last night's show. :( :(
That sucks I love I Drive the Hearse!
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If setlist.fm is correct, looks like last night in Philly saw I Drive the Hearse back in and Sentimental out again, AND Half-Light got played instead of Last Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth Before It Is Recycled. I don't like that swap at all, but I wasn't there, so no real effect on me. :lol :biggrin:
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What an awesome show in Philly last night! Visuals and lighting were fantastic. The sound was excellent. Randy was a really great addition, his guitar playing and vocals were really, really good. The bass player (forget his name) was really good also. Stevens vocals sounded so good especially with Randy's having vocals.Gavin was on fire, I kept getting the feeling I was watching someone on par with my all time favorite NP. Fantastic night, if you are a fan don't miss this tour! We even had MP in the house, which I suspected would happen. I wonder how he enjoyed it.
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* Randy's backing vocals
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If setlist.fm is correct, looks like last night in Philly saw I Drive the Hearse back in and Sentimental out again, AND Half-Light got played instead of Last Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth Before It Is Recycled. I don't like that swap at all, but I wasn't there, so no real effect on me. :lol :biggrin:
I wouldn't be surprised if yhe song switch ups are because of the closeness of NYC and Philly. Steven mentioned the Philly show and people should go at the NYC show. Maybe this was a way to say thanks for those who did both.
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If setlist.fm is correct, looks like last night in Philly saw I Drive the Hearse back in and Sentimental out again, AND Half-Light got played instead of Last Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth Before It Is Recycled. I don't like that swap at all, but I wasn't there, so no real effect on me. :lol :biggrin:
I wouldn't be surprised if yhe song switch ups are because of the closeness of NYC and Philly. Steven mentioned the Philly show and people should go at the NYC show. Maybe this was a way to say thanks for those who did both.
Good point. That would make a lot of sense. :tup :tup
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0/10 - Didn’t play Deadwing.
In all honesty, enjoy the show to anyone who’s going. I need to get more into this band.
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Super excited for Friday's show in Dallas. :metal
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I would have loved to hear Last Chance in Philly, but Half-Light was really nice.
Also, I prefer I Drive the Hearse over Sentimental (and FOABP was already well-represented), so glad for that substitution.
Overall, don't feel at all like we got a "lesser" setlist.
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Last Friday I saw the Porcupine Tree show at Radio City Music Hall, thanks to vmadera who gave me an extra ticket. I probably would not have otherwise attended, it wasn't really on my radar as I had not really listened to PT much before the show. Leading up to it, I did familiarize myself with the new album and FOABP so I ended up being familiar with a good amount of the set. I hadn't been to Radio City since the DT show there playing TA many years ago, but I was happy to see the venue still looked and felt as nice as I had remembered it. I will say, the lobby is a disaster being too small for a venue that big. It was almost impossible to get around when I entered. The lines for concessions and bathrooms were insane. And when you got to the seats, the back screen had a sign saying it is a phone free event. I knew this going in so I was not surprised. (and I'm glad I knew this, they wouldn't of allowed me to bring my camera like I normally do which would mean I'd have to hide it outside somewhere).
The band sounded really good. I know there's some replacement touring members, but as someone not too into the band, it kind of didn't matter to me. The bassist and guitarist both seemed like they fit in and sounded good. Must be some good musicians too to take on that setlist. 20 songs with an intermission in the middle. Including the intermission, the show was about 2 hours and 45 minutes. Very similar to an evening with DT format.
The lighting and backing videos were kind of crap. There were no cameras for the crew so you didn't get any close up shots on the band for those in the back. I was really up close but all the way to the side of the stage. The band didn't really move around at all. Even though the stage stretched all the way to the side where I was, no one from the band even came close to walking to that part of the stage. Steven never went past the bassist or guitarist to his sides. I honestly was sick of him flicking his hair after about 5 songs. I felt a disconnect between the fans and the band in some ways. No eye contact. Steven did have a few things to say in between songs but I dont think anything he said stood out other than not really having any hit songs. For a show that felt kind of stripped down to just being about the performance, I felt there should be a bit more of a connection and intimacy.
As for the no phones. I think if I sat somewhere else, it might not have bothered me as much, but there was a security guard posted right next to me who was flashing his flashlight the entire concert at people even if they just looked at their phone. It was honestly super distracting and it didn't even stop anyone. The same people just kept filming every once in awhile and sometimes they would film with the light flashing on them for extended periods of time just ignoring it until the guard actually went over to them or called upon another guard. Which was also annoying, the guys radio was loud enough that I could hear it over the music. Once again, I think if this guy wasn't posted up by me, it probably would be less annoying. Funny enough, for once, I was not the one filming. I didn't attempt to take a single video although I did snap a few pics when the guard would go off yelling at someone.
Performance wise, show was great. Everything else, meh.
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Question - phone free event. I knew this, and after reading your post, I think I have the answer, but I'll ask anyway. We can have our phones with us, but we're asked not to use them during the show, correct?
As for that policy, SW can go fuck himself. I agree it's annoying to have a phone in the air at a show (I'm short, and it's bad enough seeing over people). That said, when my view is blocked, if I film something I want to see clearly, I can generally capture it on video holding it over my head, enabling me to see it later. SW needs to stop being an arrogant prick over this, as does anyone else who demands this at shows. I totally get it, and in a perfect world (and me having normal height - lol), I'd agree. But as it sits, that sucks.
I saw PT once and they were very boring on stage, so I expect more of the same - your post was not a surprise. Sounds like the music was great though, and I'm looking forward to the gig next week.
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Yes. I had my phone on me. Used my wife to be a human shield to get pictures and 1 short video.
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Question - phone free event. I knew this, and after reading your post, I think I have the answer, but I'll ask anyway. We can have our phones with us, but we're asked not to use them during the show, correct?
As for that policy, SW can go fuck himself. I agree it's annoying to have a phone in the air at a show (I'm short, and it's bad enough seeing over people). That said, when my view is blocked, if I film something I want to see clearly, I can generally capture it on video holding it over my head, enabling me to see it later. SW needs to stop being an arrogant prick over this, as does anyone else who demands this at shows. I totally get it, and in a perfect world (and me having normal height - lol), I'd agree. But as it sits, that sucks.
I saw PT once and they were very boring on stage, so I expect more of the same - your post was not a surprise. Sounds like the music was great though, and I'm looking forward to the gig next week.
They should just use the pouch if it's officially a phone free event. I would have no issue doing that. I went back to get a water during both sets (when there were no lines) and pulled out my phone to check messages (if it were a pouch event you could scan to open it in designated areas).
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Me and my brother did the Ohio to Chicago and back round trip yesterday. There were a couple of minor snafu's during the show, but overall it was an amazing show. Our seats were in the extreme nose bleed section of the venue, but when we got up there an usher was offering upgrade tix on the ground floor of the theater free of charge. We ended up about half way back on Gavin's side.
Some notes on the show:
1. Steven had a cold. There were some notes that he couldn't hit, and his voice got a little rough towards the end. He still sounded pretty damn good, and it didn't detract from the show in any way.
2. The two new touring members (names escape me at the moment) did an excellent job. I'm still sad about the situation with Colin, but his live replacement did an awesome job.
3. The volume and the mix(with one exception) was as good as it gets. I've been to many shows over the years where I'm either getting blown out of my seat, or it's possible to have a light conversation with my neighbor. That wasn't an issue last night.
4. My only issue with the mix was the snare sound. In general, I've noticed a move by a lot of drummers towards a deeper snare sound in the last 10-15 years. This isn't much of an issue for most players that only use the snare as a time keeping piece in their playing. However, Gavin is a technician and his use of ghost notes is a huge part of his playing. Those parts get lost in the mix with a deeper/lower snare tone in a live environment.
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All I have to say it was one hell of a show. Probably Top 3 all time gig from any band.
Venue, mix, setlist was fantastic.
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Really enjoyed the show in San Francisco last night. The Masonic is a wonderful venue for great sight lines. I was four rows back in the balcony and had a clear view the entire evening. Tremendous setlist. Since this thread allows spoilers, I'll talk about it. I really loved they included so much from IA and FoaBP. They were rotating Sentimental and I Drive the Hearse, and we got the latter, but despite wanting Sentimental, I enjoyed it. The new songs came off well live. The whole performance was great.
This was only my second PT show. I had tickets in 2003 for the gig at the Fillmore, and missed it. Then I missed the next tour (guessing it was FoaBP) for the same reason. I finally saw them in 2010 with Karnivool opening, and honestly, I couldn't remember much from it, other than how blown away I was at Karnivool. But this show last night, however, was really impactful. The crowd was great (a rarity for Bay Area crowds in my opinion), Steven Wilson was engaging as a frontman (although absolutely obnoxious with his snooty attitude), and the songs really came to life.
Everything was just so much fun and well performed last night. SW even broke a string and it was like nothing happened. The only snafu was they went to start a song, and apparently SW's guitar wasn't plugged in. So they stopped, he remarked on the "dodgy connection," fixed it, and off they went.
A solid 2.5 hours on stage. Great video accompaniment as well.
Everyone around me remarked on the ticket price. They were high. My buddy bought them, and I didn't ask how much, but he mentioned later that they were 144 bucks. I thought that was steep for fourth row, balcony. But it was worth every penny. Speaking of costs...merch...45 bucks for a shirt was dumb. But I got one. I also picked up two of the IA lithographs which were absolutely amazing (one for me, one for my friend who flew down from Seattle and bought us the tickets). I love the IA cover so much, so having that killer lithograph, signed by RB, SW, and GH is awesome. Going to have that professionally framed.
All in all, it was a great night of killer songs and I'm so glad PT is back.
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I keep thinking about the show in Toronto and what a great experience it was. Prior to the start I was talking to the couple next to me about which songs we wanted to hear and I had mentioned Even less, and Sleep Together. We also said "imagine the tears if they play collapse" - I still can't believe they play them all. Sleep Together is my fav PT/SW song, and given how it had been played in his solo tours I was pleasantly surprised to hear it on the list.
I was shocked they played Last Chance - such an underrated song. My only nitpick is I could have used a bit more Deadwing - I think they only played Halo. That said, if this is their last tour ever it was true to the band.
Not knowing the set list made this so much better - I'm never checking setlists again.
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Question - phone free event. I knew this, and after reading your post, I think I have the answer, but I'll ask anyway. We can have our phones with us, but we're asked not to use them during the show, correct?
As for that policy, SW can go fuck himself. I agree it's annoying to have a phone in the air at a show (I'm short, and it's bad enough seeing over people). That said, when my view is blocked, if I film something I want to see clearly, I can generally capture it on video holding it over my head, enabling me to see it later. SW needs to stop being an arrogant prick over this, as does anyone else who demands this at shows. I totally get it, and in a perfect world (and me having normal height - lol), I'd agree. But as it sits, that sucks.
I saw PT once and they were very boring on stage, so I expect more of the same - your post was not a surprise. Sounds like the music was great though, and I'm looking forward to the gig next week.
They should just use the pouch if it's officially a phone free event. I would have no issue doing that. I went back to get a water during both sets (when there were no lines) and pulled out my phone to check messages (if it were a pouch event you could scan to open it in designated areas).
That pouch is what Jack White does. A bit annoying, but at the end of the day, it really does help you keep engaged with the concert with no temptation to grab the phone.
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Everyone around me remarked on the ticket price. They were high. My buddy bought them, and I didn't ask how much, but he mentioned later that they were 144 bucks. I thought that was steep for fourth row, balcony. But it was worth every penny. Speaking of costs...merch...45 bucks for a shirt was dumb. But I got one. I also picked up two of the IA lithographs which were absolutely amazing (one for me, one for my friend who flew down from Seattle and bought us the tickets). I love the IA cover so much, so having that killer lithograph, signed by RB, SW, and GH is awesome. Going to have that professionally framed.
Wow, looking at where I sat for the DC show, it was comparable to your seat. I got soooooo lucky given I only spent $70 after all fees on an aftermarket ticket on StubHub. The show would have been worth full face, but scoring a cheap ticket made it that much better. Took the sting off of the $45 t-shirt for sure.
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I keep thinking about the show in Toronto and what a great experience it was. Prior to the start I was talking to the couple next to me about which songs we wanted to hear and I had mentioned Even less, and Sleep Together. We also said "imagine the tears if they play collapse" - I still can't believe they play them all. Sleep Together is my fav PT/SW song, and given how it had been played in his solo tours I was pleasantly surprised to hear it on the list.
I was shocked they played Last Chance - such an underrated song. My only nitpick is I could have used a bit more Deadwing - I think they only played Halo. That said, if this is their last tour ever it was true to the band.
Not knowing the set list made this so much better - I'm never checking setlists again.
Not knowing what's coming up makes it that much more enjoyable IMO. Sometimes you get what you want, other times is song you don't care about but the anticipation makes it a much more enjoyable experience than if I knew the setlist.
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Speculation time...Alex Lifeson was in LA this week for the Taylor Hawkins tribute show, how amazing would it be if he showed up at the Greek Theatre tomorrow to play his solo from Anesthetize? :o
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Highlights for me personally in SF were: Blackest Eyes, Even Less and the FoaBP material. Great stuff.
The evening with format needs to be a permanent thing with PT...if they continue. My only significant complaint about the setlist was a lack of Deadwing material. But as I was saying to my friend on the way out...we got a bunch from IA, which is 20 years old this year. IF they come back again, it'll likely be Deadwing's 20th, and then there will probably be a good chuck of that album being played. Anyway, I was happy and pretty much buzzin on PT all of yesterday (and of course the ritual of wearing the new shirt the day after the gig).
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Highlights for me personally in SF were: Blackest Eyes, Even Less and the FoaBP material. Great stuff.
The evening with format needs to be a permanent thing with PT...if they continue. My only significant complaint about the setlist was a lack of Deadwing material. But as I was saying to my friend on the way out...we got a bunch from IA, which is 20 years old this year. IF they come back again, it'll likely be Deadwing's 20th, and then there will probably be a good chuck of that album being played. Anyway, I was happy and pretty much buzzin on PT all of yesterday (and of course the ritual of wearing the new shirt the day after the gig).
My hunch for the lack of Deadwing material is that there's a boxset/deluxe version coming up soon (similar to the In Absentia one). I believe the boxset is confirmed without a release date yet. If there is a second leg, I'm ASSuming they would be playing more Deadwing material. There is a small window when PT can tour again next year. Gavin has Pineapple Thief with a new album (Bruce has said Spring 2023) and tour coming up and Steven has a new solo album coming up (don't know about a timeline).
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That would be cool. Funny enough, I remember with the IA boxset was announced, and I didn't grab it, complaining about the price. But I've changed my mind and I just went ahead and ordered it. Funny how a live show reminds you of how much you love a record.
My favorite song is "Even Less," but my favorite record is probably IA. And I'm pretty partial (as are a lot of folks) of the IA-FoaBP run.
I'd be up for a second run of U.S. dates. I'm assuming some secondary markets such as Seattle would get some love if that was the case. The left out a lot of key cities/regions on this leg. I feel pretty fortunate to have gotten a show.
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Heads up for those that's on the fence of the LA show. There are tickets at the B section at the Greek Theater on Tickpick that's going for $20-30.00, but the catch is that you got to buy them in pairs.
I'm not going to today's show. Feeling a little tired and want to get mentally rested for next week. Plus, there are no more $10.00 shuttle parking passes for this show, so I don't want to pay $30.00 for parking today.
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Heads up for those that's on the fence of the LA show. There are tickets at the B section at the Greek Theater on Tickpick that's going for $20-30.00, but the catch is that you got to buy them in pairs.
I'm not going to today's show. Feeling a little tired and want to get mentally rested for next week. Plus, there are no more $10.00 shuttle parking passes for this show, so I don't want to pay $30.00 for parking today.
My man, reconsider! It was such a great show! It's worth the cash. I'm a picky spender, and I was thoroughly entertained. Just a great experience. Either way, have a good weekend.
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Excellent interview with Randy about the PT tour:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr2OlKNwZJY&t=3242s
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I am amazed at how filled the Ziggodome Arena seems on ticketmaster. I can go to the concert alone after work (which is fairly close), so will probably buy a ticket. Fairly good seats are 50 euros secondhand, a good price.
Really curious how their setup/visuals will be on the large stage.
Has there been any word of recording this tour?
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There were some cameras I noticed at the San Francisco show. No boom cameras, but stuff was being recorded.
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There were some cameras I noticed at the San Francisco show. No boom cameras, but stuff was being recorded.
Professional cameras? Cool!
I'll post this news also(edited) here:
https://www.loudersound.com/news/porcupine-tree-announce-uk-outdoor-show-for-summer-2023
So... continuation?
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They did look professional and were on the stage on the sides. I thought at first it was for the screens, but they weren't. Could just be capturing additional footage for an eventual live album project.
Nice that they booked another gig. That says to me that they are enjoying each others' company and want to continue...
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They did look professional and were on the stage on the sides. I thought at first it was for the screens, but they weren't. Could just be capturing additional footage for an eventual live album project.
Nice that they booked another gig. That says to me that they are enjoying each others' company and want to continue...
I don't recall seeing any cameras at the NYC show and there was no live shots on the screen behind the band (side screens from the venue were off too). Maybe they are starting to get some captures if not for a live album, but for promotional purposes (social media or advertising for new shows). The shows seems to be having good turn outs, I could see that being a solid reason to continue. Maybe after the break they needed to test the waters to make sure the tickets would sell and since they are, they are getting more opportunities to keep touring and keep the money rolling in?
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Has there been any word of recording this tour?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr2OlKNwZJY
The question is brought up at 41:40 in this interview :coolio
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Got my ticket!
Has there been any word of recording this tour?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr2OlKNwZJY
The question is brought up at 41:40 in this interview :coolio
Thanks. I kinda assume they will, maybe the UK show.
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Had a great time!
And they recorded the show in Ziggodome Amsterdam! I noticed a lot of manned cameras and Steven later confirmed it.
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Saw them tonight at the Ziggo Dome, oh my god!! I feel like such a fanboy now.
I saw them live in 2005 on the Deadwing tour in a small venue and now this. A mega stadium-sized venue where basically only bands with huge hits play (and Tool..). Surreal.
The sound was freaking great. The new guys were excellent and Randy’s vocal harmonies were terrific. I love John Wesley and fortunately Randy brings excellence to his role. Fantastic guitar player as well.
Went with two other people and we all thought Chimera’s Wreck was the highlight. We went into the intermission baffled by how intense that song was. Heavier and more organic than on the album. I already really liked the track, but the way it was performed made the hair on my arms stand up.
Lots of favorites, cool deep cuts (Last Chance to..!! Awesome) and a very animated SW. He’s come a long way. His vocals too; easily one of the best vocal performances I’ve heard from him live. Awesome that the show was recorded, can’t wait to buy the blu-ray.
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Had a great time!
And they recorded the show in Ziggodome Amsterdam! I noticed a lot of manned cameras and Steven later confirmed it.
That's awesome
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I was at the Ziggo Dome too (Amsterdam, for all people unfamiliar with it) and it was fantastic. Super cool to finally get to see PT live and I thoroughly enjoyed the setlist, even though they did not play any of my absolute favourites.
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Saw them tonight at the Ziggo Dome, oh my god!! I feel like such a fanboy now.
I saw them live in 2005 on the Deadwing tour in a small venue and now this. A mega stadium-sized venue where basically only bands with huge hits play (and Tool..). Surreal.
The sound was freaking great. The new guys were excellent and Randy’s vocal harmonies were terrific. I love John Wesley and fortunately Randy brings excellence to his role. Fantastic guitar player as well.
Went with two other people and we all thought Chimera’s Wreck was the highlight. We went into the intermission baffled by how intense that song was. Heavier and more organic than on the album. I already really liked the track, but the way it was performed made the hair on my arms stand up.
Lots of favorites, cool deep cuts (Last Chance to..!! Awesome) and a very animated SW. He’s come a long way. His vocals too; easily one of the best vocal performances I’ve heard from him live. Awesome that the show was recorded, can’t wait to buy the blu-ray.
I agree Chimera's Wreck worked really well live. For me Herd Culling and Anesthitize were the highlights (I think those songs do the whole build up and soft/heavy contrast incredibly well, especially live). The latter being great to finally witness after having watched the Tilburg performance a lot.
And Randy was fantastic, his vocals and harmonies were on point as well.
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The Ziggodome gig was such a blast!
Can only hope this leads for more in the future :metal :heart
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I saw them in DC back in September. Fantastic show, unfortunately the couple sitting behind me would not shut up and they frequently (and loudly) expressed their dislike for the newer songs.
Band sounded great. Randy and Nate fit in perfectly in this band. Would have been cool to see Colin, but it is what it is.
Gavin Harrison may be the best drummer on the planet. I saw him 1 year prior at the same venue with King Crimson, a very impressive yet much more restrained performance given that he's playing with 2 other drummers. The PT show was Gavin unleashed. Steven may be the frontman but my eyes were glued to Gavin the whole night.
Security was cracking down hard on anyone so much as looking at their phones during the show. I saw one person get kicked out.
I managed to snag one photo, which didn't turn out as good as I wanted lol. I liked the way SW's shadow cast on the wall.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZWD6y47.jpg)