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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: El Barto on September 04, 2022, 11:41:16 AM
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Pasword: BartoRules
As always, it's nice when people's pick names are identifiable. Also, don't be the guy that abandons his pick set just because he forgets a week and blows his chances.
2009 ScurvyDreams
2010 Pogoowner
2011 El Barto
2012 jcmistat
2013 Kevshmev
2014 El Barto
2015 Rattlehead
2016 Cool Chris
2017 Rattlehead
2018 El Barto
2019 El Barto
2020 El Barto
2021 Destiny of Chaos
2022 Dublagent66
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In.
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Alright, let's see how many weeks before I accidentally miss one and give up this year :lol
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In it to win it.
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Signed up hours ago as I was getting ready to go to a wedding. If I play my normal game, I will start strong and fade slowly and painfully as the season progresses.
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I don't think I have done this in a few years after being "that guy" who forgot about it after a few weeks :facepalm:, but I am back in, and I bookmarked it and put it near the top, so I should be able to remember to do them every week.
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Signed up hours ago as I was getting ready to go to a wedding. If I play my normal game, I will start strong and fade slowly and painfully as the season progresses.
See, I'm the opposite; I start like ass then improve, but not nearly enough to make any difference. ;)
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In
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Got 2nd last year by very small margin. The only way to improve on that, is to win. :dunno:
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Status: Signed up
Target: Don't finish last
(have Yahoo changed the game slightly? It looks like they've decided to stop making my life easier by showing who's favoured to win each game)
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Status: Signed up
Target: Don't finish last
(have Yahoo changed the game slightly? It looks like they've decided to stop making my life easier by showing who's favoured to win each game)
Odds favourite is still on the left, with the dog on the right. Pick distribution is still in a box on the right hand side. Group picks will still show odds. What seems to be missing?
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In this time.
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Status: Signed up
Target: Don't finish last
(have Yahoo changed the game slightly? It looks like they've decided to stop making my life easier by showing who's favoured to win each game)
Odds favourite is still on the left, with the dog on the right. Pick distribution is still in a box on the right hand side. Group picks will still show odds. What seems to be missing?
It's back to normal now. For some reason when I first signed up the pick distribution wasn't showing up.
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The pick distribution just showed up for me yesterday.
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Week 2 may be the hardest to decipher in quite some time. Lots of even matchups.
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I'm beginning to think I might actually do better just flipping a coin. :lol
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Went against the grain with Denver and Dallas and……boom, 1st place.
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I pussied out on Dallas at the last minute. That never, ever goes well for me. Should have stuck with my gut on that one.
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I pussied out on Dallas at the last minute. That never, ever goes well for me. Should have stuck with my gut on that one.
I thought about changing my pick, but I picked against them last week and lost.:facepalm: You were right about that front 7, I just wasn't sure about the O-line. For whatever reason, they played way better than expected. Really wasn't sure how it would shake out at the end. They kept the G-men in it for most of the game.
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I pussied out on Dallas at the last minute. That never, ever goes well for me. Should have stuck with my gut on that one.
I thought about changing my pick, but I picked against them last week and lost.:facepalm: You were right about that front 7, I just wasn't sure about the O-line. For whatever reason, they played way better than expected. Really wasn't sure how it would shake out at the end. They kept the G-men in it for most of the game.
It was Gallup and Schultz that made me change my mind. I assumed that would turn it into a Zeek vs Saquan battle, and there's no way Zeek wins that one.
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I pussied out on Dallas at the last minute. That never, ever goes well for me. Should have stuck with my gut on that one.
I thought about changing my pick, but I picked against them last week and lost.:facepalm: You were right about that front 7, I just wasn't sure about the O-line. For whatever reason, they played way better than expected. Really wasn't sure how it would shake out at the end. They kept the G-men in it for most of the game.
It was Gallup and Schultz that made me change my mind. I assumed that would turn it into a Zeek vs Saquan battle, and there's no way Zeek wins that one.
Well, that's cause Zeke isn't alone. Him and Pollard are the smash bros on offense and Pollard is even more explosive than Zeke.
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Signed up hours ago as I was getting ready to go to a wedding. If I play my normal game, I will start strong and fade slowly and painfully as the season progresses.
See, I'm the opposite; I start like ass then improve, but not nearly enough to make any difference. ;)
Well, like my picks, I blew that prediction. Just an awful start.
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Can I say that, as a group, we are stinking up the joint!?! :D For my five years here, I've never seen anything this remotely bad. Gawd, I'm glad I don't bet. Can't imagine what I'd be do if dealing with a spread.
I'm 25-22-1 after three weeks, and only two games behind.
Leaving home for ten days, so I've made my picks already for the next two weeks.
(watch me go 26-5 or something like that :lol)
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I'm pissed about that Dolphins/Bengals game. I'm using the Yahoo app, and misread who the "favorite" was and ended up with the 'phins. I'm not in a position to be giving up points and I gave one up there.
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Big thanks to the Jets for bailing me out of that stupid London game. :lol
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Is anyone having any problems determining the "Favorites" for each game? I screwed up the Cincinnati game because of that, and now, on the App it shows LA as the favorite tonight, but everywhere else is showing SF. Not that it's the only thing that matters, but it's an important fact or variable when assessing the game (for me).
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Can’t help you Stadler, never even consider the favorites, it’s all gut instinct for me.
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Is anyone having any problems determining the "Favorites" for each game? I screwed up the Cincinnati game because of that, and now, on the App it shows LA as the favorite tonight, but everywhere else is showing SF. Not that it's the only thing that matters, but it's an important fact or variable when assessing the game (for me).
I don't use the app. Just go straight into yahoo and add the bookmark to your home screen.
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Note to self: if, during some future game, the Raiders are up 45-0 at halftime and the opposition have lost 75% of their playing staff to injury, still do NOT back Vegas to win. Even if the opposition are reduced to playing the lady who cuts the halftime oranges at quarterback...do NOT back the fucking Raiders.
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I have no idea how I'm in the lead. I typically think my picks are shit.
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I have no idea how I'm in the lead. I typically think my picks are shit.
True or False is much more forgiving than multiple choice. Can you imagine the dynamic if we included point spreads and O/U? :dunno:
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Note to self: if, during some future game, the Raiders are up 45-0 at halftime and the opposition have lost 75% of their playing staff to injury, still do NOT back Vegas to win. Even if the opposition are reduced to playing the lady who cuts the halftime oranges at quarterback...do NOT back the fucking Raiders.
My abject dislike of Hoodie Jr. makes it easy for me to pick against them. Carr is a good QB and he just got a bum deal getting stuck with a guy who has proven he has no business being a head coach.
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I have no idea how I'm in the lead. I typically think my picks are shit.
True or False is much more forgiving than multiple choice. Can you imagine the dynamic if we included point spreads and O/U? :dunno:
Anyone else exasperated that it's almost impossible to find a good game summary these days that isn't about "the spread"? I DON'T CARE that Belichick is 4-12 against the spread when a road underdog in the division. WTF? I want to know how Matthew Judon responds to the run. How McCourty does against the RPO.
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I have no idea how I'm in the lead. I typically think my picks are shit.
True or False is much more forgiving than multiple choice. Can you imagine the dynamic if we included point spreads and O/U? :dunno:
Anyone else exasperated that it's almost impossible to find a good game summary these days that isn't about "the spread"? I DON'T CARE that Belichick is 4-12 against the spread when a road underdog in the division. WTF? I want to know how Matthew Judon responds to the run. How McCourty does against the RPO.
Even the network talking heads are more about the spread than win/loss nowadays. It doesn't really effect me insofar as the picks go, but it does bug me as just another example of American capitalistic idiocy.
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I tune out conversations that involve the spread, as I do not gamble. Much more annoying are discussions about which players people should start in their fantasy league.
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Big thanks to the Jets for bailing me out of that stupid London game. :lol
Guessing you're no fan of stupid German games now either ;)
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Nope. But TB12 bailed me out of this one, too. SEA was a unanimous pick in my money league.
After the first one I went through and pre-picked all early/Sat games. Apparently I missed that one.
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Terrible, horrible week and I still managed to move up. Just dumb luck. Even after agreeing with Dave, I let Hoodie Jr. and the Raiders burn me in what should have been a gimme for them.
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This week has my lowest ever score. Some I should have followed my gut instincts on.
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My incorrect picks last week
Atlanta vs @Carolina Incorrect Car 25, Atl 15
@Tampa Bay vs Seattle Incorrect TB 21, Sea 16
@Buffalo vs Minnesota Incorrect Min 33, Buf 30
@Chicago vs Detroit Incorrect Det 31, Chi 30
@Tennessee vs Denver
@Kansas City vs Jacksonville
@Miami vs Cleveland
@New York (NYG) vs Houston
New Orleans vs @Pittsburgh
@Las Vegas vs Indianapolis Incorrect Ind 25, LV 20
Dallas vs @Green Bay Incorrect GB 31, Dal 28
@Los Angeles (LAR) vs Arizona Incorrect Ari 27, LAR 17
@San Francisco vs Los Angeles (LAC)
@Philadelphia vs Washington Incorrect Was 32, Phi 21
The Dallas loss was historic. The Lions comeback was shocking, same with the Bills blowing their big lead. The trends and matchups of others...
there wasn't a bad pick in that bunch......just a lot of wrong ones :D
I'd rather lose ground with eleven correct picks instead of just six ;) though I remained eight games behind the leader
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I CHANGED MY PICKS, AGAINST EVERYTHING I HOLD DEAR.
Chicago and Minnesota. Two losses. Dammit.
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Going into week 12 it's great to see nobody has so far stopped playing. This is something like my 4th year of playing this game and usually by now there have been 2 or 3 DNFs. Good going everyone.
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Dave, you jinxed us. hef missed all of his Turkey Day picks.
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It's going to be a blood bath for my picks this week.
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Dave, you jinxed us. hef missed all of his Turkey Day picks.
He missed a lot more than that.
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Goddammit, I forgot all about this.
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Damnit I missed tonight's game.
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It's week 14 and the top 10 are within 7 points. Is this normal?
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Note to self: if, during some future game, the Raiders are up 45-0 at halftime and the opposition have lost 75% of their playing staff to injury, still do NOT back Vegas to win. Even if the opposition are reduced to playing the lady who cuts the halftime oranges at quarterback...do NOT back the fucking Raiders.
When will I ever, ever learn?
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Note to self: if, during some future game, the Raiders are up 45-0 at halftime and the opposition have lost 75% of their playing staff to injury, still do NOT back Vegas to win. Even if the opposition are reduced to playing the lady who cuts the halftime oranges at quarterback...do NOT back the fucking Raiders.
When will I ever, ever learn?
I think we all were drinking the Kool-Aid on that one. Though to be fair, the Rams don't do that without Baker Mayfield. Wolford was not doing what we saw on the field.
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Damnit I missed tonight's game.
And I screwed myself over by making all the selections but not clicking save at the end on Thursday. Great.
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Damn dude, that sucks. You actually dodged a bullet on TNF cause we all lost that point, but then... ??? :(
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Not that it makes much difference at this point, but once again I failed to hit save after a pick and once again it cost me a game. Between Saturday games, fucking London games, and my own foolishness I've certainly handicapped myself quite a bit this year.
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I’ve missed every upset pick I’ve made over the last few weeks and have taken myself out of contention.
Double Agent crushed it this week and has separated himself from the field.
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Am I the only one that cannot pick the Saturday games for Week 18? Just shows 2 greyed out slots at the top with no teams.
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Am I the only one that cannot pick the Saturday games for Week 18? Just shows 2 greyed out slots at the top with no teams.
I suspect it's because of the postponement. It doesn't have any effect on this weekend's games, but anytime the schedule turns into something it shouldn't the Yahoo site turns all funky. In this case it doesn't show W17 as having been completed (because it hasn't), and that's likely screwing things up for them. For what it's worth I've seen this happen a few times with Yahoo and not once has it been a problem come crunch time. They'll get it worked out.
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Yep, the two Saturday games are greyed out for me as well right now. Not like I have a chance to finish with the best record anyway. :lol
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Yep, the two Saturday games are greyed out for me as well right now. Not like I have a chance to finish with the best record anyway. :lol
Yeah, same. It's over for me too. If there is one pet peeve I have with fantasy, it is deserters so I will play until the end. That stuff drove me nuts when I was in regular NFL fantasy leagues. Giving people easy wins by not setting a lineup. This is obviously different, but I play until the end.
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Not that it makes much difference at this point, but once again I failed to hit save after a pick and once again it cost me a game. Between Saturday games, fucking London games, and my own foolishness I've certainly handicapped myself quite a bit this year.
The one week I did the same screwed me over. Plus I can't believe how I was in the lead for quite a while. Oh well next season maybe.
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Just a heads up, the Sat picks are available to select, but I wouldn't put much trust in the platform right now. No odds have been assigned, so all home teams are shown as favourites, and I'm not sure how that will resolve itself. If you're the sort to make your picks early you should probably plan on double checking everything Saturday morning.
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Seems all sorted now. I kind of wish they didn't bother with favorites. Makes me get too much into my head. I would prefer to just pick them without knowing, but that's me.
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Congrats to Aagent66 for winning the regular season title. Wish I could go back for each week’s standings, but a quick glance
shows you were 5-6 games back after two weeks and about the same weeks later.
I was 8 GB and in 8th or 9th place after eight weeks, but kept slogging away without trying wild picks, and am quite proud of my year. I think I was 8th last year, 8 GB. Still, less than half a game per week on average from having the lead, and better than some of the Baltimore Sun sports writers. Pretty good, considering I make all my picks by noon Thursday (except for the Lions-Bills T'giving day game :facepalm:)
Now comes my kryptonite. I’ve been abysmal in the playoffs the last three years.
1 AAgent66 176-93-3
2 Dave 175-94-3
3 DragonAttack 170-99-3
Stadler 170-99-3
5 T-ski’s Pick-ski’s 169-100-3
6 ProfessorPeart 166-103-3
7 Coolio Chris 165-104-3
8 Admiral Barto 164-105-3
9 D.o.C 163-106-3
10 KevShmev 160-109-3
11 faizoff 159-110-3
12 axeman9182 130-139-3
(completed week 15)
13 hefdaddy42 91-178-3
(completed week 11)
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Thank you sir. :tup Definitely scratched and clawed my way from the bottom. Playoffs should be interesting. Good luck to everyone. ;)
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Dave and Double A tied with just the Superb Owl left to go.
If Dave wins, I think we can all safely say that the Russians interfered in the league and we can throw out the results.
:rollin
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Dave and Double A tied with just the Superb Owl left to go.
If Dave wins, I think we can all safely say that the Russians interfered in the league and we can throw out the results.
:rollin
Damn, hadn't been paying attention. Tie breakers will be coming into play. Second year in a row.
Parity is becoming more and more real. The number of games I've been really confident about has dwindled to about nothing. Seems like as often or not it's a real crapshoot.
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Dave and Double A tied with just the Superb Owl left to go.
If Dave wins, I think we can all safely say that the Russians interfered in the league and we can throw out the results.
:rollin
Damn, hadn't been paying attention. Tie breakers will be coming into play. Second year in a row.
Parity is becoming more and more real. The number of games I've been really confident about has dwindled to about nothing. Seems like as often or not it's a real crapshoot.
That's how I felt for most of the season.
I say this with love and respect, but I can't believe I'm going to lose an American football pick'em to a Brit national who lives in Moscow! (I know it's not Moscow, but it's funnier that way).
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Alrighty, then. For the second year in a row we have to incorporate tie-breaking procedures. For the first time they're likely to be necessary.
Straight win/loss is king here. If one picks Phili and the other KC, one will win and that's that. Only if they both pick the same team, resulting in an overall tie per the Yahoo site, then we go on to the next step. Typically second in line is a pick against the spread. However, the line is only 1.5 right now. Incorporating that would really be more about betting strategy than football, so that's out for this year. My inclination is rather to go with Over/Under, next. If that doesn't resolve the matter, we'll go with predicted score. DA66 and Dave will need to PM me their predictions. Currently O/U is set at 50.5.
The O/U primer is as follows. The folks in Vegas have set 50.5 as the most likely total points scored. People can bet that it'll be a higher scoring game or a lower scoring game. So the participants here will simply tell me if the total score will be over 50.5 or under 50.5.
As for the predicted points, and I suspect it may well come to this, I'm not entirely sure how this should work. My inclination would be to go with margin of victory first. For example: one picks 27-23 and the other picks 27-7. Margins of victory are therefore 4 and 20 respectively. Last year's super bowl ended 23-20, so in this case 4 would have won. After that, whoever's closest to the winning team's score, and finally whoever's closest to the losing team's score.
By all means, anybody that's not involved in this chime in with suggestions or problems with my approach.
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The most simple, straight forward way is for each to pick the total points for the game. If they both are correct or incorrect on their picks....whoever is the closest, without going over, is the winner.
If they both pick the same total.....well.....co-champions aren't so bad IMO. Or, have the next tie breaker choosing the winning team's score.
Kudo to both heading to the champeenship.
Me, I could tie Stadler for 3rd depending on his pick, or no worse than a tie for 4th. I'll take it.
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Just popping in to say I'll go along with whatever's decided for the tie-break.
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Jut popping in to say I am humbled by where I am finished and don't give a damn about tiebreakers at this point.
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The most simple, straight forward way is for each to pick the total points for the game. If they both are correct or incorrect on their picks....whoever is the closest, without going over, is the winner.
That's certainly the easiest option, and it's what Yahoo does (if I had their tiebreak option activated, which I don't). I've just never really liked that. It seems more like a lottery than an actual prediction. Rather than just "48" (which would be covered by the O/U anyway), I want people picking actual scores. Maybe one guy thinks it'll be 48-0, and the other is thinking 28-24. That should count for something.
But again, I'm open to suggestions/criticisms/threats/whatever.
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Mkay, so what have we decided? I have a coin here that needs flipping.
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Mkay, so what have we decided? I have a coin here that needs flipping.
I'm thinking, Eagles in a blowout. KC has too many players banged up.
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Mkay, so what have we decided? I have a coin here that needs flipping.
I'm thinking you and DA66 need to PM me the final score of the game (ideally before it's played). O/U will still be the first tiebreaker, so whether or not the total is more or less than 50 matters.
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Mkay, so what have we decided? I have a coin here that needs flipping.
I'm thinking you and DA66 need to PM me the final score of the game (ideally before it's played). O/U will still be the first tiebreaker, so whether or not the total is more or less than 50 matters.
That got a laugh out loud.
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Something that occurs to me is that, while I abhor tie games, I sucked my way out of having any vested interest in this particular outcome. The principals here might prefer a tied finish to basing the outcome on a bet that's far more granular than the original point of the contest. We all signed on to pick straight win/loss, and that part is done. If both of you guys want to just call this a draw I'm cool with that. From my point of view it diminishes bragging rights, but different strokes. . .
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Well, the tiebreakers are out the door. They picked differently. Nice and easy.
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Well, the tiebreakers are out the door. They picked differently. Nice and easy.
Quite happy to see that. Tie-breakers were pretty much off the table anyway as DA hasn't been around to participate. It would have simply ended in a tie had they concurred.
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Double A with the victory.
At least we Americans are safe in the thought that we didn't lose to the Brit Ruskie. :lol
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Yes, congrats to DA. I spent the halftime show drafting my winner's acceptance speech, so confident was I that Philly would see it home. Ah well. In times of failure the Russians have a philosophical saying: "Do not be bitter in defeat. Extend to your victorious opponent your praise, your humility, and a glass of polonium 210". I've always found that to be a little extreme so I merely offer my congratulations once again.
Thanks to Barto for running it. Hope to do it again next season.
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Congrats DA and thanks ElBarto for running this. Next year hopefully I remember to save my selections every week.
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Congrats to both guys. Well done. On to next year!!!!
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Thanks to those who extended congrats. Much appreciated and thanks Barto for setting up the league. :tup
As far as the potential tiebreaker, I wasn't too concerned because Dave won the divisional round even though the points were tied, moving him into 1st place. Even if we had tied in the SB, he still would've retained the #1 spot and that's ok. I would've accepted that as a Dave victory. That's why I took a gamble on the SB underdogs (since I thought most would pick the favorite) and fortunately it paid off. I just figured it was all or nothing at that point.
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Thanks to those who extended congrats. Much appreciated and thanks Barto for setting up the league. :tup
As far as the potential tiebreaker, I wasn't too concerned because Dave won the divisional round even though the points were tied, moving him into 1st place. Even if we had tied in the SB, he still would've retained the #1 spot and that's ok. I would've accepted that as a Dave victory. That's why I took a gamble on the SB underdogs (since I thought most would pick the favorite) and fortunately it paid off. I just figured it was all or nothing at that point.
No idea what this divisional round is of which you speak. I can assure you that the endeavor was tied going into yesterday.
WTG. :tup
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Thanks to those who extended congrats. Much appreciated and thanks Barto for setting up the league. :tup
As far as the potential tiebreaker, I wasn't too concerned because Dave won the divisional round even though the points were tied, moving him into 1st place. Even if we had tied in the SB, he still would've retained the #1 spot and that's ok. I would've accepted that as a Dave victory. That's why I took a gamble on the SB underdogs (since I thought most would pick the favorite) and fortunately it paid off. I just figured it was all or nothing at that point.
No idea what this divisional round is of which you speak. I can assure you that the endeavor was tied going into yesterday.
WTG. :tup
Thanks. Dave moved into 1st place after being undefeated in the divisional round and retained it through the conference championships even though our points were tied. All I'm saying is that I would've been fine with Dave winning had we tied in the SB. The yahoo ranking system still would've had him in the #1 spot.
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Thanks to those who extended congrats. Much appreciated and thanks Barto for setting up the league. :tup
As far as the potential tiebreaker, I wasn't too concerned because Dave won the divisional round even though the points were tied, moving him into 1st place. Even if we had tied in the SB, he still would've retained the #1 spot and that's ok. I would've accepted that as a Dave victory. That's why I took a gamble on the SB underdogs (since I thought most would pick the favorite) and fortunately it paid off. I just figured it was all or nothing at that point.
No idea what this divisional round is of which you speak. I can assure you that the endeavor was tied going into yesterday.
WTG. :tup
Thanks. Dave moved into 1st place after being undefeated in the divisional round and retained it through the conference championships even though our points were tied. All I'm saying is that I would've been fine with Dave winning had we tied in the SB. The yahoo ranking system still would've had him in the #1 spot.
If the points were the same, that was just alphabetical, no?
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Thanks to those who extended congrats. Much appreciated and thanks Barto for setting up the league. :tup
As far as the potential tiebreaker, I wasn't too concerned because Dave won the divisional round even though the points were tied, moving him into 1st place. Even if we had tied in the SB, he still would've retained the #1 spot and that's ok. I would've accepted that as a Dave victory. That's why I took a gamble on the SB underdogs (since I thought most would pick the favorite) and fortunately it paid off. I just figured it was all or nothing at that point.
No idea what this divisional round is of which you speak. I can assure you that the endeavor was tied going into yesterday.
WTG. :tup
Thanks. Dave moved into 1st place after being undefeated in the divisional round and retained it through the conference championships even though our points were tied. All I'm saying is that I would've been fine with Dave winning had we tied in the SB. The yahoo ranking system still would've had him in the #1 spot.
If the points were the same, that was just alphabetical, no?
I've never found rhyme nor reason as to how Yahoo sorts things.
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Not alphabetical. Let me try this again. At the end of the divisional round, Dave won all 4 picks for that week (undefeated). I only won 2 of the 4 picks. Therefore, Dave caught up and tied me in points but was ranked ahead of me because he won the week. In the conference championships, we both tied with 1 point each. He remained at #1. The only way for me to move into the #1 spot was to win the SB pick and that's what happened.
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Congrats Dublagent! Another well played season by everyone!
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Well done!
Bad year for making picks for me, as I finish 10th, and in the blazing 5 I do with a buddy every week all season (5 picks vs the spread), I basically finished .500, which is bad since you'd be in the red if you bet those thanks to the juice.