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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: 425 on August 29, 2022, 07:52:59 PM
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Introduction:
Welcome to another roulette from me! This is something I sort of decided to do on a lark. Since I started doing roulettes, I've gotten to the place where my comfort zone is having more artists I'm excited to check out than I know what to do with, and I feel that the well is drying up a bit, so, well, here we are!
On a personal note, my last roulette was nearly two years ago, but I canceled it because of a serious personal tragedy. I've never been someone to open up much on DTF, but I'll just say that I'm starting to reach something like a new normal in my life, and I think running a new roulette will be part of the healing process in some way. Don't take that as me having any expectations of you, just a statement of gratitude to anyone who wants to participate in this or ends up following along.
Okay, what kind of roulette is this? My format last time was driven by two things I wanted to change about the way I was doing roulettes. First, I wanted to hear more than one song from a particular artist, because I'm primarily looking for artists I can dive deep into, not individual songs that I might like. Second, I wanted to judge winners by a comparative standard, not doing a score out of ten, because trying to assign numerical values is one of the most frustrating aspects of running a roulette to me.
Last time, I tried to accomplish those goals by doing an album roulette where people faced each other in a rotating series of head-to-head matchups. I don't regard that as a failed format; it's probably worth someone trying again, but it's not what I'm doing this time. I don't have the time for albums, and I want to provide a little more of a spectrum of outcomes for each round beyond "win-loss." So here's what I came up with...
Format:
Some of the format specifics will depend on the exact number of participants I get, so stay tuned for a precise layout. But in essence I'm planning to use a pool format to score submissions against each other and gradually eliminate participants over the course of the roulette. I'm anticipating high demand for participants, considering the way things have gone lately for roulette, so I've planned for that and am looking to include somewhere from 15-20 participants. I also don't want it to be 17 or 19, so I'll try to invite new people if we get left at one of those numbers. If demand is lower than I thought, I'll figure out how to run it with however many people want to join.
The basics are each participants will be randomly assigned to a pool of 3-5 people. The submissions within a pool will be ranked and receive points accordingly. So if the pools have 4 people, then my favorite submission of a round will get 4 points, my second favorite will get 3, etc. The pools will stay together for three rounds. Then, the bottom 1-2 people from the pool (depending on the size) will be eliminated.
New pools will then be created with the surviving participants, and we'll follow the same procedure for rounds 4-6. After round 6, there will be another elimination, and we'll have 4-6 people left. These people will do two ranked EP rounds, and the most EP points will win.
If this is hard to follow, don't worry. I'll post some more specifics once we have a participants list. The basics are, you're competing directly against 2-4 other people. You need to score points by having submissions I like better than theirs. If you're doing poorly, you'll be eliminated after three rounds. If not, you'll compete for three more rounds against a different group of people. If you do well against them, then you'll compete against everyone else who's left in two EP rounds.
All the complexity should be on my side. All you have to do is follow what to submit and when. That's what this next part will tell you:
Submissions:
Submissions need not just be single songs. I want to hear a sampling from an artist, not just one few-minutes-long piece. So, for each of the first six rounds, you have a 15 minute limit to send me as many songs from a single artist as you want. You can send one 14-minute epic. You can send four 3:30 songs. You can send a 10-minute song and a 4-minute song. It's all up to you. It just needs to be 15:00 or less in total.
There's no minimum length. Yes, you can send one 3-minute song if you want. I don't advise it, but you can.
"Single artist" generally means that if I was going to sort the songs in my music library, the words listed under "artist" would be identical. Features are fine, but side projects and solo projects count as different artists. If you have a weird case, let me know and I'll make a decision. Generally, a band that changes name counts as the same artist, a spin-off band counts as a different artist.
Banned music:
What can't you send? I'm keeping this as simple as possible. Below is a list of artists that are totally banned. There is also a link to a Google Doc that lists individual songs that are banned. The songs list comes from two sources: Artists where I know one or two albums but am uncertain I want to explore further, and past roulette submissions. I encourage cheating where permitted, but I'm not going to permit you to submit something I've already scored and written about in a previous roulette.
So, if you want to know whether your submission is good, do two things: (1) Ctrl+F the artist on this page and see if they're on the banned list. (2) Ctrl+F the song on the Google Doc linked here (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AKry5Gfu7nfWxH-I_b_9ZH9awZQpEvBtn_yizbXYhtY/) and see if the song shows up. If the answer to both is no, go ahead and send.
Banned artists:
Amaranthe
Amorphis
Anabasis (not The Anabasis, which is allowed)
Anathema
Angra
Arcane
Arch/Matheos
Avantasia
Ayreon
Beyond the Bridge
Big Big Train
Blaze Bayley
Blind Guardian
Bon Iver
Caligula’s Horse
Circus Maximus
Coheed and Cambria
Coldplay
David Maxim Micic
The Dear Hunter
Death Cab for Cutie
Delain
Devin Townsend/Devin Townsend Project
Dio
Dream Theater
Enchant
Epica
Evergrey
Fates Warning
The Flower Kings
Flying Colors
Frost*
The Gentle Storm
Haken
Headspace
Helloween
IQ
Iron Maiden
Kamelot
Leprous
Liquid Tension Experiment
Lorde
Markéta Irglová
Megadeth
Metallica
Mystery
Neal Morse
The Neal Morse Band/NMB
Nightwish
Opeth
Orphaned Land
Pain of Salvation (because I don't like them)
Pink Floyd
Porcupine Tree
Pyramaze
Queensrÿche
Redemption
Rush
Seventh Wonder
Sonata Arctica
Spock’s Beard
Steve Harris
Steven Wilson
Symphony X
Taylor Swift
Teramaze
TesseracT
Threshold
Thrice
Transatlantic
Tuomas Holopainen
Unleash the Archers
Voices from the Fuselage
The Warning
Yes
Artists sent during roulette
Amahiru
Angel Dust
Anthonie Tonnon
Anubis
Ardarith
Autumn
Borknagar
Carpenter Brut
Cave In
CHVRCHES
Conception
Concrete Blonde
The Cyberiam
Dead Letter Circus
Deftones
Destiny Potato
Dim Gray
dredg
Echolyn
Fellowship
First Aid Kit
From Monuments to Masses
Ghost
Glass Beach
The Intersphere
Ivar Bjørnson and Einar Selvik
Jakub Zytecki
Jellyfish
Jolly
Katatonia
The Killers
King Crimson
King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard
Kingcrow
Kingfisher Sky
King’s X
Kip Winger
Lost Domain
Mandroid Echostar
Mile Marker Zero
Myrath
Nevermore
Nils Frahm
Ola Englund
The Pineapple Thief
Public Service Broadcasting
Pure Reason Revolution
Rishloo
RX Bandits
Serious Black
Seven Spires
Soilwork
Sufjan Stevens
Sweet Billy Pilgrim
Sylvan
Toto
Triosphere
Twin Temple
Valis Ablaze
Vanishing Point
VOLA
Von Hertzen Brothers
Vylet Pony
Waken Eyes
Waylon Jennings
Wes Montgomery
Tastes:
I'll keep this short-ish because I think people mostly ignore it and send what they want anyway. Plus, I've done enough of these and been on this forum long enough that you can figure it out.
Basically: I like music that feels like it's about significant things. Music that is often grand or epic. Great melodies are a must. Prog metal and prog rock are definitely home genres for me, and the safest plan in this roulette would probably be to stay at home in those genres, but music from other genres can still score very well. Some of my favorite music is more in the areas of indie rock or modern pop. I think it's just that it's rarer for me to fall in love with an artist from those genres.
I think it would be dangerous to send something that's going to make me think "that's weird and discordant" or something that's going to make me think "this is about how drab and gray life is" (see: Porcupine Tree). I think it would also be dangerous to send me something with morbid lyrics (such as the serial killer lyrics that many metal bands like to do), lyrics focused on drinking or drug use, or lyrics that are sexually explicit.
It would be dangerous to send me Pain of Salvation or Bent Knee. These are frequent roulette submissions that I have tried and do not like. Not going to ban them, but you've been warned.
People ask about harsh vocals. It's hit or miss. Some are going to be a-ok, some are going to be a turn-off. In a certain sense, I think I turned a corner on, like, certain kinds of melodeath and prog with harsh vocals in the last couple of years, but realistically I'm still going to be pretty selective. I'd generally say the more it's a deep, thick growl (like Tomi Joutsen of Amorphis) and the more melodic the music otherwise is (again, Amorphis), the better your chances are. If there is also clean singing that also vastly improves your odds compared to music where the vocals are all harsh.
Also, you can just ask me what I think of an artist if you see that I've heard some of their work before. I'll just tell you my current take on them.
I... think that's it. I'll put links to past roulettes here in case you want to check those. Otherwise, looking forward to this!
Roulette v1 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43715.msg1956432#msg1956432)
Roulette Championship (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45409)
Roulette v2 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=52833.msg2466158#msg2466158)
Roulette v3 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54251.msg2581136#msg2581136)
Roulette v4 (abandoned) (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55847.msg2715852#msg2715852)
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This post will contain the participants list, pool information, etc.
Participants:
1. TAC
2. Vmadera00
3. HOF
4. Cyril
5. wolfking
6. Elite
7. senecadawg2
8. ReaperKK
9. soupytwist
10. Buddyhunter1
11. Stadler
12. Sacul
13. twosuitsluke
14. Lethean
15. kingshmegland
16. Tomislav95
17. romdrums
18. LithoJazzoSphere
I'm counting as in the people who said they'd join in the tracker thread, but please go ahead and post in here to confirm you've seen it and you really want to join.
First Set of Pools:
Pool A:
Lethean
Sacul
senecadawg2
Pool B:
ReaperKK
twosuitsluke
wolfking
Pool C:
Elite
Buddyhunter1
HOF
Pool D:
kingshmegland
Stadler
Vmadera00
Pool E:
LithoJazzSphere
soupytwist
Tomislav95
Pool F:
Cyril
romdrums
TAC
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IN!!
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In!
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i am going to send you bent knee and you are going to have to deal with that
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425, where are you on female vocals?
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i am going to send you bent knee and you are going to have to deal with that
Actions (sending bent knee) have consequences (getting a 4/10). But as the person who sent Pain of Salvation in my album roulette, you know that. :P
425, where are you on female vocals?
Definitely a fan. I mean, there are female singers I don't like just as there are male singers I don't like, but probably a disproportionate number of my favorite metal singers are women (relative to how many bands in the genre are female-fronted).
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I think I might be out, you kinda cut my legs out from under me with that banned list ngl.
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No worries. Let me know if you change your mind.
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sent for round 1
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Count me in.
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Best way to send? Not sure if I missed that in the OP?
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I'd love to join (again). Will read the OP later
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"The Forum of Dream Theater turns, and Roulettes come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Roulette that gave it birth comes again. In one Roulette, called the Fifth Roulette by some, a Roulette yet to come, a Roulette long past, a wind rose above the great mountain home of 425. The wind was not the beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings to the Dreamtheaterforums Roulette. But it was a beginning."
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I'd like to play. Looks like I have to do some research though. Are you thinking the groups will be randomly generated, or are you going to rank us by how irritating we are?
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Count me in, I'll be out of town with spotty connection Sept 9-19, will I be able to send a song or songs early so I don't hold anyone up?
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I'd like to play, but just to clarify...Would it be OK to just send you the name of the artist and their songs (and you then find them), or do I have to provide links/create a playlist?
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In.
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I'll join, just know that I'm moving over these next couple days so you might not get my first submission until Friday.
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Thanks for joining, folks! I'll add you to the second post. To answer some questions:
Best way to send? Not sure if I missed that in the OP?
I'd like to play, but just to clarify...Would it be OK to just send you the name of the artist and their songs (and you then find them), or do I have to provide links/create a playlist?
Forgot to address this in the OP. If the songs you want to send are on Spotify, it's okay to just tell me artist and songs. You can also send me Spotify links if you want to make sure I listen to the right version. If Spotify doesn't work for you or if the song(s) aren't available there, YouTube is fine.
Count me in, I'll be out of town with spotty connection Sept 9-19, will I be able to send a song or songs early so I don't hold anyone up?
That's perfectly fine. There aren't themes or surprises; it's clear what's expected of you each round. In fact, I already have the patented Cyril six rounds of submissions.
I'll join, just know that I'm moving over these next couple days so you might not get my first submission until Friday.
That's perfectly fine.
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I'd like to play. Looks like I have to do some research though. Are you thinking the groups will be randomly generated, or are you going to rank us by how irritating we are?
As fun as it would be to make an annoyingness tier list, I'm going to randomly generate the first set of groups (part of why I have numbers in front of participant names in the second post is to keep track of how many people are joining, the other reason is for easy of RNG use).
The second set of groups will be seeded based on performance in the first three rounds. In other words, say there are three groups in the second set. The top three performers in the first set will all be in different groups. The next best three will all be in different groups. And so on. To be clear, scores don't carry over from 1-3 to 4-6, but the reward of having the best scores is essentially that you face "easier" competition in 4-6.
"The Forum of Dream Theater turns, and Roulettes come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Roulette that gave it birth comes again. In one Roulette, called the Fifth Roulette by some, a Roulette yet to come, a Roulette long past, a wind rose above the great mountain home of 425. The wind was not the beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings to the Dreamtheaterforums Roulette. But it was a beginning."
Wow, no pressure, though, everyone! :lol
Are you in or are you going to observe and write the chronicle?
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Sent for Round 1!
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This post will contain the participants list, pool information, etc.
Participants:
1. TAC
2. Vmadera00
3. HOF
4. Cyril
5. wolfking
6. Elite
7. senecadawg2
8. ReaperKK
9. soupytwist
10. Buddyhunter1
I'm counting as in the people who said they'd join in the tracker thread, but please go ahead and post in here to confirm you've seen it and you really want to join.
I'm in if you'll have me...
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Round 1 sent!
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So we're trying to open your eyes to certain bands/music? So my last-place finish is also intended to enlighten you?
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I'd like to join if there's room for me ;D
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I'm in if you'll have me...
I'd like to join if there's room for me ;D
You're both in.
So we're trying to open your eyes to certain bands/music? So my last-place finish is also intended to enlighten you?
First or last, I'm sure I will be enlightened. :)
My main motivation for doing a roulette is always to get a chance to sample artists that y'all are interested in. Part of why I set up the rules this time to have you submit multiple songs from the same artist is that my usual music listening pattern is to listen to full albums and dive deep into particular artists.
I've had the experience in past roulettes of hearing a song I love, then going to listen to the artist's other work and finding that most of it is different or just not for me. Nothing against those songs or the people who sent them, because I'm glad to have heard them, but since I so rarely listen to individual, isolated songs, I'm trying to set things up so that I have a better chance of determining whether I'm interested in an artist as a whole as opposed to just one track.
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"The Forum of Dream Theater turns, and Roulettes come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Roulette that gave it birth comes again. In one Roulette, called the Fifth Roulette by some, a Roulette yet to come, a Roulette long past, a wind rose above the great mountain home of 425. The wind was not the beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings to the Dreamtheaterforums Roulette. But it was a beginning."
Wow, no pressure, though, everyone! :lol
Are you in or are you going to observe and write the chronicle?
I wasn't necessarily going to join but I can do dude :tup
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Round 1 sent.
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I won't send for round 1 until I see who my competition is. That'll determine how strong my submission needs to be :biggrin:
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I won't send for round 1 until I see who my competition is. That'll determine how strong my submission needs to be :biggrin:
You'd have to assume the competition is going to be strong regardless.
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I won't send for round 1 until I see who my competition is. That'll determine how strong my submission needs to be :biggrin:
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"The Forum of Dream Theater turns, and Roulettes come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Roulette that gave it birth comes again. In one Roulette, called the Fifth Roulette by some, a Roulette yet to come, a Roulette long past, a wind rose above the great mountain home of 425. The wind was not the beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings to the Dreamtheaterforums Roulette. But it was a beginning."
Wow, no pressure, though, everyone! :lol
Are you in or are you going to observe and write the chronicle?
I wasn't necessarily going to join but I can do dude :tup
Wasn't trying to cajole you into joining, but I'd be happy to have you! I'll add you to the list, but no problem if you want to back out.
I'm going to keep sign-ups open for another day or so, since, like I said, I was hoping to get at least 15. If no one else is interested, I'll figure out how to run it with whatever number we end up with, but I want to give people a little while longer.
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Hi 425. I'll join if you're good with getting a band or two that I already sent you (everyone knows what I'm sending in round 1). Will the EP, should I make it that far, need to have a story or can it just be a longer submission of songs? I'm not good at the concept thing so I suppose I'll be a little more confident about joining if that's not what you're looking for.
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Ah, what the hell. I'll play if you'll have me.
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You're both in! Thanks for joining! I'll still leave sign-ups open until tomorrow night, since I can accommodate a few more.
Hi 425. I'll join if you're good with getting a band or two that I already sent you (everyone knows what I'm sending in round 1). Will the EP, should I make it that far, need to have a story or can it just be a longer submission of songs? I'm not good at the concept thing so I suppose I'll be a little more confident about joining if that's not what you're looking for.
Completely on board with that, in fact, I hope some people do decide to do that. It might be that I heard a song or two and am still on the fence about getting into a band and would like to hear more.
As for the EP, definitely doesn't need to have a story. What I'll be judging is the quality of the songs and how well they flow together. Stories can be nice to have in these, but it's not going to take away from your score if you don't have one.
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I've kept seeing these roulettes and wondered what the big deal is. Reading the OP it seems simple enough. Should I give it a go and figure it out on the fly? I've never followed one before, so I'll probably either be cannon fodder or maybe I'll make a surprise slide into glory.
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I've kept seeing these roulettes and wondered what the big deal is. Reading the OP it seems simple enough. Should I give it a go and figure it out on the fly? I've never followed one before, so I'll probably either be cannon fodder or maybe I'll make a surprise slide into glory.
Send good music that isn't on the hosts banned list. It's that simple.
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"The Forum of Dream Theater turns, and Roulettes come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Roulette that gave it birth comes again. In one Roulette, called the Fifth Roulette by some, a Roulette yet to come, a Roulette long past, a wind rose above the great mountain home of 425. The wind was not the beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings to the Dreamtheaterforums Roulette. But it was a beginning."
Wow, no pressure, though, everyone! :lol
Are you in or are you going to observe and write the chronicle?
I wasn't necessarily going to join but I can do dude :tup
Wasn't trying to cajole you into joining, but I'd be happy to have you! I'll add you to the list, but no problem if you want to back out.
I'm going to keep sign-ups open for another day or so, since, like I said, I was hoping to get at least 15. If no one else is interested, I'll figure out how to run it with whatever number we end up with, but I want to give people a little while longer.
Yea,go on then dude. The fact that I don't have to narrow down to one song when in sending, should make it a bit easier.
All I really know of your tastes is that you like Coheed, so you are clearly a man of culture. Growls are risky as well, got it.
Also, I pretty much always end up asking this, so might as well get it out of the way early. What are your views on punk rock and video game music?
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I there any room left?
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I've kept seeing these roulettes and wondered what the big deal is. Reading the OP it seems simple enough. Should I give it a go and figure it out on the fly? I've never followed one before, so I'll probably either be cannon fodder or maybe I'll make a surprise slide into glory.
I'd be happy to have you if you want to play! Wolfking explained the essence of it. The main goal is to win by impressing the host more than others do.
On top of that, a lot of the fun is the banter that goes on during rounds, particularly as the songs that were sent are revealed (typically through a game of hangman).
Yea,go on then dude. The fact that I don't have to narrow down to one song when in sending, should make it a bit easier.
All I really know of your tastes is that you like Coheed, so you are clearly a man of culture. Growls are risky as well, got it.
Also, I pretty much always end up asking this, so might as well get it out of the way early. What are your views on punk rock and video game music?
Great! Punk is not really for me. I don't really connect with the typical attitude of it. I definitely like some video game music a lot, although I've rarely tried listening to it deliberately outside the context of playing the games themselves. Would be willing to give it a try, though!
I there any room left?
Yes! I'll count you as in.
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:tup
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I think I can do this, so long as a few others join. 16 is such a solid number for this format that if it ends up at 17, I'll bow out.
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Thanks, romdrums! I'd love to have you, but it's nice to have a flex participant in case we end up with an odd number. If LithoJazzSphere decides to join, that will put us at 18, which I think would be a good number.
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I'd be happy to have you if you want to play! Wolfking explained the essence of it. The main goal is to win by impressing the host more than others do.
Yeah, so I guess I'm in, and I just sent my submission for round 1.
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I'd be happy to have you if you want to play! Wolfking explained the essence of it. The main goal is to win by impressing the host more than others do.
Yeah, so I guess I'm in, and I just sent my submission for round 1.
Welcome aboard, you'll never be the same...
Just trying to decide between two bands, will send this evening :corn
Edit: Sent
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I'd be happy to have you if you want to play! Wolfking explained the essence of it. The main goal is to win by impressing the host more than others do.
Yeah, so I guess I'm in, and I just sent my submission for round 1.
Excellent. Happy to have you!
Alright, since it looks like we have a round 18 including Litho and Rom, I'm going to close off sign-ups here.
Here is the format I have for 18 participants: For the first three rounds, we will have six pools with three people in each. Each round, my favorite submission in a particular pool will get 3 points, my second favorite will get 2, and my least favorite 1. The lowest total score in each pool after three rounds will be eliminated. That will leave 12 participants, who will be re-organized into three pools with four people in each. After round 6, the bottom two in each of those pools will be eliminated. That will leave a final six who compete in the two EP rounds.
So the progression goes: 18 participants in groups of 3 -> bottom 1 in each group eliminated -> 12 participants in groups of 4 -> bottom 2 in each group eliminated -> 6 participants in two EP rounds. I think this sets a nice pattern of increasing stakes.
Here are the six groups who will compete against one another in the first round. This will also be added to the second post. The groups here are generated using a random number generator:
Pool A:
Lethean
Sacul
senecadawg2
Pool B:
ReaperKK
twosuitsluke
wolfking
Pool C:
Elite
Buddyhunter1
HOF
Pool D:
kingshmegland
Stadler
Vmadera00
Pool E:
LithoJazzSphere
soupytwist
Tomislav95
Pool F:
Cyril
romdrums
TAC
Get to know each other, folks... you're going to be sharing the ring for three rounds.
Submissions open for round 1. Some of you have already sent, for the rest of you, let's try to get them in by Friday. I'm going to listen to each pool together, so the first pool to have everyone in might be the first to get results... (sorry, Pools A and C)
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Does everyone go back to zero at the end of Round 3? Do we all start off even for Round 4?
Also, I heard the oldest person in each group was going to start with an extra point. That's true, right?
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THE FUTURE IS NOW, OLD MAN
(it's very funny that i'm in TAC's group as all the music i plan to send in this roulette is very anti-TAC-core)
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I already know what you've sent for one of the rounds.
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do you now? :corn
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It would be um... fun. to guess, no?
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This is a cool format. I dig it.
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Also, I heard the oldest person in each group was going to start with an extra point. That's true, right?
I heard it was the best looking.
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Pool D:
kingshmegland
Stadler
Vmadera00
Poor V. I hope he knows how to make oatmeal and what aisle the Depends are in.
Also, I heard the oldest person in each group was going to start with an extra point. That's true, right?
I heard it was the best looking.
OK, I'll go with that too. That's two extra points for me! :lol
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Honey with cinnamon oatmeal for this old bastard. Add cut up apples.
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Does everyone go back to zero at the end of Round 3? Do we all start off even for Round 4?
Also, I heard the oldest person in each group was going to start with an extra point. That's true, right?
You all start off even for round 4. The benefit of performing really well in the first three rounds (as opposed to just well enough to stay alive) is that you'll have weaker competition, because the new groups are going to be seeded.
Thanks for reminding me about the Fogey Rule: Before the first round, the oldest person in each group has to try to drive the two younger ones off their lawn. If they're able to do so within 60 seconds, they get a bonus point, if not, the young people do.
(it's very funny that i'm in TAC's group as all the music i plan to send in this roulette is very anti-TAC-core)
I think there are some interesting groupings here. Pool F is definitely a land of opposites with Rom in the middle.
This is a cool format. I dig it.
:tup
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It would be um... fun. to guess, no?
you'd think that but you'd be wrong :corn
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Thanks for reminding me about the Fogey Rule: Before the first round, the oldest person in each group has to try to drive the two younger ones off their lawn. If they're able to do so within 60 seconds, they get a bonus point, if not, the young people do.
(https://c.tenor.com/Dmf_iSnLrAgAAAAd/rijksoverheid-confused.gif)
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I might have to arm wrestle Stads for that? Stads? Lol
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I might have to arm wrestle Stads for that? Stads? Lol
(https://st2.depositphotos.com/3332767/10193/i/950/depositphotos_101939962-stock-photo-senior-men-having-an-arm.jpg)
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Nice group. I'll send shortly
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More like this Tim.
(https://i.postimg.cc/dtNN6F49/20220831213535.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2Vvxjspq)
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Wow, hang the fuck on, I'm the damn fogey in my pool?!
Tim, how do I do this right? First off, I need to lose all knowledge of what anything is and ask periodically "What's ****?" when those young 'uns are making pop culture references?
This is a cool format. I dig it.
Dude, what kind of smack talk is this? You're embarrassing us in front of the other pools!!
I'll attempt to claw it back.
Kade, you're music taste is like your avatar, dated and an embarrassment to this forum.
:hat
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Wow, hang the fuck on, I'm the damn fogey in my pool?!
Tim, how do I do this right? First off, I need to lose all knowledge of what anything is and ask periodically "What's ****?" when those young 'uns are making pop culture references?
This is a cool format. I dig it.
Dude, what kind of smack talk is this? You're embarrassing us in front of the other pools!!
I'll attempt to claw it back.
Kade, you're music taste is like your avatar, dated and an embarrassment to this forum.
:hat
Hold old are you?
Okay....Errrr....shut up old man!
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I'm 39! I think the three of us are pretty close in age but I just edge the two of you out.
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I'm 39! I think the three of us are pretty close in age but I just edge the two of you out.
For some reason I didn't think you were that old Luke. But yes, you are a year older than me. ;D
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Will send tonight, I'm against some tough competition in my group.
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I'm 39! I think the three of us are pretty close in age but I just edge the two of you out.
For some reason I didn't think you were that old Luke. But yes, you are a year older than me. ;D
Hey, watch who you're calling old :getoffmylawn: In my day kids had more respect for their elders!
But to be fair, this is basically me...
(https://c.tenor.com/LV3-ygTBpvwAAAAM/30rock-steve-buscemi.gif)
So Pool B represent, right?! Let's show these fuckers how to tank a roulette...
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I'm down with that.
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Sent for round 1!
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Pool F:
Cyril
romdrums
TAC
More like "Pool F'ed", amirite? ;D
Also, sent.
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Also, I heard the oldest person in each group was going to start with an extra point. That's true, right?
I heard it was the best looking.
So I get two points? :) :) :) :)
Ninja'd by TAC. ;)
Send in about ten minutes.
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Sent! I'm beginning to feel bad for Lethean and Sacul.
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Sent!
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Mine too; sorry, Joe, Victor. I'm coming in hot.
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Mine too; sorry, Joe, Victor. I'm coming in hot.
So am I! Sent a band I'm seeing in October! :metal
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Mine too; sorry, Joe, Victor. I'm coming in hot.
So am I! Sent a band I'm seeing in October! :metal
I sent something that he's either going to love or hate, so we shall see :corn
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Pool E:
LithoJazzSphere
soupytwist
Tomislav95
Very Spicy, the group of DEATH for sure. Whoever gets out of this has gotta be the favourite to win the whole thing. ;D
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Congratulations to Pool D (King/Stads/Vmadera) on being the first to be all in, followed an hour later by Pool F (Cyril/rom/TAC)!
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fun fact: i submitted all of the first six rounds already :corn
even if i get cut after round 3 (likely) 425 still has more (bad) music to listen to
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Sended
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I'm 39! I think the three of us are pretty close in age but I just edge the two of you out.
Might be a biased small sample size, but late 30s seems to be a heavy demographic for this forum. After the 90+ range in this thread, that is...
Pool E:
LithoJazzSphere
soupytwist
Tomislav95
Very Spicy, the group of DEATH for sure. Whoever gets out of this has gotta be the favourite to win the whole thing. ;D
Good idea, send Scream Bloody Gore guys, I heard that he loves growls and horror themes.
fun fact: i submitted all of the first six rounds already :corn
even if i get cut after round 3 (likely) 425 still has more (bad) music to listen to
I sense some sarcasm here, but is there some strategy to sending out rounds early? I skimmed a bit of a couple other roulettes, but I'm still new at this. Doesn't 425 comment after each round? I have some tentative selections for round 2/3 and beyond, but I think I want to see commentary on round 1 (particular my picks) to see if I need to make some adjustments. It's a fine line between competition and self-indulgence. I imagine part of the fun of this is that it turns into a group listening party, and another part is "forcing" your favorites upon others.
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Congratulations to Pool D (King/Stads/Vmadera) on being the first to be all in, followed an hour later by Pool F (Cyril/rom/TAC)!
Will miracles never cease? :) :)
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Given who’s in my pool, I anticipate we will usually be last to all submit.
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Congratulations to Pool D (King/Stads/Vmadera) on being the first to be all in, followed an hour later by Pool F (Cyril/rom/TAC)!
Will miracles never cease? :) :)
Apparently they will not:
Sended
Pool A (Sacul/Lethean/seneca) is in!
Given who’s in my pool, I anticipate we will usually be last to all submit.
Buddyhunter already let me know that he can't send until tomorrow, which is fine, but yes, I suspect you are right for other reasons...
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i mean there's not a huge amount of overlap between what i did send and the overlap that does exist is sounds i already know 425 likes because i've sent similar stuff to him before :lol
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fun fact: i submitted all of the first six rounds already :corn
even if i get cut after round 3 (likely) 425 still has more (bad) music to listen to
I sense some sarcasm here, but is there some strategy to sending out rounds early? I skimmed a bit of a couple other roulettes, but I'm still new at this. Doesn't 425 comment after each round? I have some tentative selections for round 2/3 and beyond, but I think I want to see commentary on round 1 (particular my picks) to see if I need to make some adjustments. It's a fine line between competition and self-indulgence. I imagine part of the fun of this is that it turns into a group listening party, and another part is "forcing" your favorites upon others.
Sending all the rounds at the beginning is just a Cyril thing; no one else does it. :biggrin: I will comment after each round (and I usually give pretty lengthy, detailed comments), and I think it's generally wise to use what the host says to make choices about later rounds.
It is also true that Cyril knows my tastes to a certain extent from past participation in most (maybe all?) of my previous roulettes and is also, I suspect, sending things I probably won't like just to make me try it.
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i mean there's definitely a few songs scattered across those playlists i'm less than confident you'll like but i'm trying to give as comprehensive a view of an artist's sound as i can with 1. what i do know from them 2. as much as i can fit into three songs and there's definitely artists here that have rougher edges idk if you'll like, but at the same time i'm trying to not push toooo far out of your boundaries - i don't think there's a move systems here, for example, but who knows! i'm not you
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I'm mainly referring to round 4, but I hear you. We'll see what happens!
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i'm not sure exactly what you've heard from that artist before but none of those tunes are abrasive as the one i know you've heard before :lol
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Sent! I'm beginning to feel bad for Lethean and Sacul.
Curious to find out what you sent. :)
Elite and Sacul were always the last to send in my roulette a few years ago, so I imagine we'll be in competition with pool C for tardiness... :)
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Good idea, send Scream Bloody Gore guys, I heard that he loves growls and horror themes.
Nah I'm playing it safe. Round 1 : Nickelback, Round 2 : Limp Bizkit, Round 3 : Winger.
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Good idea, send Scream Bloody Gore guys, I heard that he loves growls and horror themes.
Nah I'm playing it safe. Round 1 : Nickelback, Round 2 : Limp Bizkit, Round 3 : Winger.
Tim will be upset you used these bands.
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Good idea, send Scream Bloody Gore guys, I heard that he loves growls and horror themes.
Nah I'm playing it safe. Round 1 : Nickelback, Round 2 : Limp Bizkit, Round 3 : Winger.
Tim will be upset you used these bands.
Only if he sent them to me.
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Petrucci and Rudess might fight about Winger.
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Petrucci and Rudess might fight about Winger.
About who hates them more?
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Well, JP, when asked about having Sherinian play second guitar on some songs live, said "fuck that Winger shit" or something to that effect, but then JR had Kip sing on some of his solo albums, so he must at least be somewhat a fan.
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Sent!
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I'm going to repeat this in-thread because a few people apparently missed the memo on this (not necessarily your fault; I know my OP was long):
For each round, submit up to 15 minutes of music by a single artist. This can be one song or several. There is no minimum runtime, but I wouldn't recommend sending one short song up against competitors who are sending 13, 14 minutes of music. I'm assuming anyone who sent one song just missed the memo and PMing them to see if they want to add to their submission, but I wanted to make the PSA for the benefit of those who haven't sent yet.
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but then JR had Kip sing on some of his solo albums, so he must at least be somewhat a fan.
JR probably heard how much Rod Morganstein got laid when he was in Winger.
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I'm going to repeat this in-thread because a few people apparently missed the memo on this (not necessarily your fault; I know my OP was long):
For each round, submit up to 15 minutes of music by a single artist. This can be one song or several. There is no minimum runtime, but I wouldn't recommend sending one short song up against competitors who are sending 13, 14 minutes of music. I'm assuming anyone who sent one song just missed the memo and PMing them to see if they want to add to their submission, but I wanted to make the PSA for the benefit of those who haven't sent yet.
...and re-sent. :lol
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but then JR had Kip sing on some of his solo albums, so he must at least be somewhat a fan.
JR probably heard how much Rod Morganstein got laid when he was in Winger.
Oh, right, Morgenstein has collaborated with Rudess too. Maybe Jordan's actually a Winger superfan? Someone needs to ask the band about this if it hasn't been asked before.
I'm going to repeat this in-thread because a few people apparently missed the memo on this (not necessarily your fault; I know my OP was long):
For each round, submit up to 15 minutes of music by a single artist. This can be one song or several. There is no minimum runtime, but I wouldn't recommend sending one short song up against competitors who are sending 13, 14 minutes of music. I'm assuming anyone who sent one song just missed the memo and PMing them to see if they want to add to their submission, but I wanted to make the PSA for the benefit of those who haven't sent yet.
...and re-sent. :lol
15 minutes is a challenging number to meet. I suppose much of anything under a half-hour would be. My current submission and my candidates for rounds 2 and 3 are around 13 minutes. I feel like I'm wasting two minutes, but if I try and max out song lengths I'm not necessarily sending the strongest material. And if there's only 1-3 minutes left, do I send a fun interlude even if it's not as strong as the main songs, worrying that it might dilute the submission, or is more good if not fantastic music always better? And do I go for the absolute best songs even if they're kind of similar, or try for variety? So many tough choices...
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but then JR had Kip sing on some of his solo albums, so he must at least be somewhat a fan.
JR probably heard how much Rod Morganstein got laid when he was in Winger.
Oh, right, Morgenstein has collaborated with Rudess too. Maybe Jordan's actually a Winger superfan? Someone needs to ask the band about this if it hasn't been asked before.
I'm going to repeat this in-thread because a few people apparently missed the memo on this (not necessarily your fault; I know my OP was long):
For each round, submit up to 15 minutes of music by a single artist. This can be one song or several. There is no minimum runtime, but I wouldn't recommend sending one short song up against competitors who are sending 13, 14 minutes of music. I'm assuming anyone who sent one song just missed the memo and PMing them to see if they want to add to their submission, but I wanted to make the PSA for the benefit of those who haven't sent yet.
...and re-sent. :lol
15 minutes is a challenging number to meet. I suppose much of anything under a half-hour would be. My current submission and my candidates for rounds 2 and 3 are around 13 minutes. I feel like I'm wasting two minutes, but if I try and max out song lengths I'm not necessarily sending the strongest material. And if there's only 1-3 minutes left, do I send a fun interlude even if it's not as strong as the main songs, worrying that it might dilute the submission, or is more good if not fantastic music always better? And do I go for the absolute best songs even if they're kind of similar, or try for variety? So many tough choices...
Common roulettes are usually just single songs.
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Ah. A couple I skimmed were more album-focused.
And I assume it's a hard cutoff at 15:00. I worked on some combinations that wound up being 10-30 seconds over and had to ax them.
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Yep, breaking any rules in a roulette here is a paddlin'.
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yeah i think that there was one set of the songsi sent i had to swap out for a shorter song to be under the cutoff but all my submissions ended up being three songs ranging from like 10-14 minute or so which is some nice symmetry
15 is plenty tho, with 18 people in that's like... up to four and a half hours of music :lol
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Let's see how 15 goes. I know it can be kind of a funny number to hit, but I wanted to have a set up for multiple songs while not getting too excessive, for reasons Cyril stated pretty well. I do want to hear feedback on how people are finding it, though.
For what it's worth, I don't think it's worth thinking about it as "wasted minutes" if you send 12 or 13 minutes of music rather than, like 14:50. I can't imagine the the difference in length would even begin to be a factor until you get to the point of submissions that are under 9-10 minutes. I'd definitely rather you send 12 minutes of your best material than 14:50 of second-tier stuff.
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Yeah, it's not so much about material that's "second-tier', just that there's an argument that people perceive quality so very differently, that 14:50 of material I'd rate a 95 might have a better chance of someone else liking it than 13:10 of material I'd rate a 99, just by sheer chance and volume. Most of the bands I'm considering for me have so much strong material that I could easily send many different sets, and it's agonizing leaving things off, for the same reasons any top 10 list or such is painful. It all sort of depends upon the vibe of a band and the qualities you say you like in music, and somewhat tailoring recommendations based on that. Songs tend to have a particular unique feel to them, so sometimes to a point more can be better for a diversification strategy, but then you may be spreading things too thin, particularly since I don't recall if you've mentioned how many times you'll play each set of selections (that may be unplanned or might vary for you). As may be evident in this thread alone, or if you haven't noticed from other posts I've made in other threads in the past, I'm prone to overthinking things. But I'll just play it by ear and see how the early rounds go.
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Yeah, it's not so much about material that's "second-tier', just that there's an argument that people perceive quality so very differently, that 14:50 of material I'd rate a 95 might have a better chance of someone else liking it than 13:10 of material I'd rate a 99, just by sheer chance and volume. Most of the bands I'm considering for me have so much strong material that I could easily send many different sets, and it's agonizing leaving things off, for the same reasons any top 10 list or such is painful. It all sort of depends upon the vibe of a band and the qualities you say you like in music, and somewhat tailoring recommendations based on that. Songs tend to have a particular unique feel to them, so sometimes to a point more can be better for a diversification strategy, but then you may be spreading things too thin, particularly since I don't recall if you've mentioned how many times you'll play each set of selections (that may be unplanned or might vary for you). As may be evident in this thread alone, or if you haven't noticed from other posts I've made in other threads in the past, I'm prone to overthinking things. But I'll just play it by ear and see how the early rounds go.
Halfway through reading this post I already had this response in my head;
Dude, I think you're overthinking this.
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Pool C:
Elite
Buddyhunter1
HOF
Bring it on!! I’m up against harsh noise and The Blue Nile. I’ll do my best!
(sorry, Pools A and C)
Now hang on a minute
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Round 1 sent!
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Yeah, it's not so much about material that's "second-tier', just that there's an argument that people perceive quality so very differently, that 14:50 of material I'd rate a 95 might have a better chance of someone else liking it than 13:10 of material I'd rate a 99, just by sheer chance and volume. Most of the bands I'm considering for me have so much strong material that I could easily send many different sets, and it's agonizing leaving things off, for the same reasons any top 10 list or such is painful. It all sort of depends upon the vibe of a band and the qualities you say you like in music, and somewhat tailoring recommendations based on that. Songs tend to have a particular unique feel to them, so sometimes to a point more can be better for a diversification strategy, but then you may be spreading things too thin, particularly since I don't recall if you've mentioned how many times you'll play each set of selections (that may be unplanned or might vary for you). As may be evident in this thread alone, or if you haven't noticed from other posts I've made in other threads in the past, I'm prone to overthinking things. But I'll just play it by ear and see how the early rounds go.
I think this might be a case of overthinking, yeah, but I do understand where you're coming from. But part of the challenge of roulettes is precisely that you don't know what the host will like. I think that's even true for the people here who know each other's tastes pretty well—they can have a pretty good idea, but still be surprised sometimes. My approach when I'm a participant is to think of it as sending something I want them to hear from the artist in question, without putting the pressure of "is this the best possible selection" on it.
To answer your procedural question, I plan to listen to every submission three times, but I may do a fourth if I have a hard time choosing between two in a particular case.
(sorry, Pools A and C)
Now hang on a minute
Was it mean of me to write that? Yes. Do I currently have 17 of 18 submissions for round 1? Also yes.
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My approach with the 15 minute time limit is to try to send songs that cover the different sounds a band may have. For my first submission that was super hard.
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Pool C:
Elite
Buddyhunter1
HOF
Bring it on!! I’m up against harsh noise and The Blue Nile. I’ll do my best!
Harsh noise? I'm not Sacul. :lol
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I think 15 mins is fine. There were a few combination of songs I wanted to send but it went over by a few seconds. I ended up sending 2 songs worth 11 minutes of music I think.
Maybe allow people to send more than 15 mins, but penalize it :) -1 point for every 30 seconds over 15 mins.
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Pool C:
Elite
Buddyhunter1
HOF
Bring it on!! I’m up against harsh noise and The Blue Nile. I’ll do my best!
Harsh noise? I'm not Sacul. :lol
...yet :neverusethis:
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Give me the D
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I can only give you the E for "Elite hasn't sent yet."
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:getoffmylawn:
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I can only give you the E for "Elite hasn't sent yet."
We need to change his screen name to E-late. ;D
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E-gads.
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But part of the challenge of roulettes is precisely that you don't know what the host will like. I think that's even true for the people here who know each other's tastes pretty well—they can have a pretty good idea, but still be surprised sometimes.
Well, theoretically we each know our own tastes far better than anyone else (not to say we sometimes don't have blind spots that others might notice better than we do), but I imagine everyone is at least somewhat regularly disappointed by things they think they might enjoy, or serendipitously surprised by things they didn't expect to like.
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Sometimes, the host is open for something different. But you have to figure that out.
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Thanks Jack Handy.
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Thanks Jack Handy.
We all need a Jack Handy in our lives. Ask Geddy.
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Thanks Jack Handy.
We all need a Jack Handy in our lives. Ask Geddy.
Nothing beats a good handy now and again.
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Here's the E for "Everyone is in."
What do we think about weekend hangmanen? I'm game to post it today or wait for a weekday (although Monday is part of the long weekend in the U.S.).
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These junkies need their fix
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My body is ready.
Do it!
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today!!!
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today!!!
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now !!!
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Been ready for days. :)
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:corn
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Sorry, got caught up in some housework. Here it is, complete with Cyril's D.
____ _____d __d ___ _____d _____d - _____ ____ / _______ ________ / ____ ___ _
D_______ - ______ ____ / _______d / _______
____ - ______ ____d / ____ __ ___ ____
______ - ______d_ / __d ____
_________ - ___d____ / _______ / ____ _______
____ - ________ __ _ D______ ____d / __________d / ____d_ ____ ___
____ _______ - ______ _____ / _______
____ ______ ____ - ___ _________ / ____ / ________d_
____ D_____ - ______ ___ / ____ __ _______
D__d ______ ______ - ___ ____ / ____ __ D___d_ / ____ __ ___ _______
___ ______d - ________ / ___ __d ___ ____
________ - _____ _ _____ / _______/_______ / ___ ___ __ D____
_____ _____ _______ - _______ / __ ___ ___ ______ _______
___ ________ - __ ______ / ___ _____ ___d_____
___ _______ - ____ _____ / _______ ______ / __ ___ ___ _____d_
_____ ______ - ____ __d __ D__d / ____ ___
_____ D___ - ____d / _____ __ _____d / ____d__ ______
________ ____d_ - ____ / ______ ____ / ________
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His D is everywhere.
I'll take an Rrrrrrr.
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Dead Letter Circus - One Step/Here We Divide/Cage.
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T
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Dead Letter Circus - One Step/Here We Divide/Cage.
I didn't know "Cage" was four words totaling 13 letters. :biggrin:
One Step is also wrong, but Here We Divide is correct.
____ ____rd __d T__ ____rd ____rd - R___t _t__ / _____t_ ____t___ / ____ ___ _
D__t____ - ___r__ __t_ / __t____d / _______
T_t_ - __tt_r __r_d / ____ t_ t__ ____
__t___ - __t_t_d_ / __d ____
__t_t____ - ___d____ / ______r / ____ ___t___
____ - ________ __ _ D__t__t _r__d / ___rt_r___d / ____d_ ___r __r
____ _r_____ - ______ _____ / ___t___
____ __r__r __r_ - T__ _r___t__t / ____ / _r______d_
___t D_____ - _____t _r_ / R___ __ _______
Dead Letter Circus - T__ ____ / Here We Divide / T___ __ T__ __r____
___ ______d - ________ / ___ __d T__ ____
___r____ - _____ _ Tr___ / _______/_______ / ___ __t T_ Dr___
_____ _____ ____r__ - _______ / __ _r_ T__ _r___t __r__r_
T__ ____r___ - __ ____t_ / T__ __r__ ___d_____
T__ _____r_ - ___t _____ / R______ __r___ / __ T__ __r __t__d_
_____ ___r__ - T___ __d __ D__d / __r_ ___
_____ D__t - ____d / _r___ __ __tr_d / _r__d__ ____t_
____r_t_ ____d_ - ____ / __tt__ ____ / ________
Letters used: D R T
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I see Toto which would be Kingshmegland
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Angel Dust is Wolfking
Bleed/Cross Of Hatred/Freedom Awaits
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King Gizzard And The Lizard Wizard
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E
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Yeah, it's not so much about material that's "second-tier', just that there's an argument that people perceive quality so very differently, that 14:50 of material I'd rate a 95 might have a better chance of someone else liking it than 13:10 of material I'd rate a 99, just by sheer chance and volume.
(https://c.tenor.com/M7FqIzkj5eMAAAAM/hmm-thinking.gif)
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Dead Letter Circus - One Step/Here We Divide/Cage.
I didn't know "Cage" was four words totaling 13 letters. :biggrin:
One Step is also wrong, but Here We Divide is correct.
____ ____rd __d T__ ____rd ____rd - R___t _t__ / _____t_ ____t___ / ____ ___ _
D__t____ - ___r__ __t_ / __t____d / _______
T_t_ - __tt_r __r_d / ____ t_ t__ ____
__t___ - __t_t_d_ / __d ____
__t_t____ - ___d____ / ______r / ____ ___t___
____ - ________ __ _ D__t__t _r__d / ___rt_r___d / ____d_ ___r __r
____ _r_____ - ______ _____ / ___t___
____ __r__r __r_ - T__ _r___t__t / ____ / _r______d_
___t D_____ - _____t _r_ / R___ __ _______
Dead Letter Circus - T__ ____ / Here We Divide / T___ __ T__ __r____
___ ______d - ________ / ___ __d T__ ____
___r____ - _____ _ Tr___ / _______/_______ / ___ __t T_ Dr___
_____ _____ ____r__ - _______ / __ _r_ T__ _r___t __r__r_
T__ ____r___ - __ ____t_ / T__ __r__ ___d_____
T__ _____r_ - ___t _____ / R______ __r___ / __ T__ __r __t__d_
_____ ___r__ - T___ __d __ D__d / __r_ ___
_____ D__t - ____d / _r___ __ __tr_d / _r__d__ ____t_
____r_t_ ____d_ - ____ / __tt__ ____ / ________
Letters used: D R T
LOL, was on my phone and didn't see the rest of the song.
EDIT: I dunno what the fuck I was looking at now lol.
EDIT 2: This is the Warning/The Veil?
Edit 3: The Mile
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That is Toto, but it's not from king. Angel Dust guesses are all correct.
King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - R___t _t__ / ___e_t_ ____t___ / ____ ___ _
De_t__e_ - __er_e __t_ / E_t___ed / ____e__
Toto - _etter __r_d / ___e T_ T_e ___e
__t___ - __t_t_de / __d __e_
__t_t____ - E__de__e / _____er / _e__ E__t___
____ - _______e __ _ D__t__t _r__d / ___rt_r_e_d / ____de ___r __r
____ _r_____ - ____e_ ___e_ / E__t___
___e __r_er _er_ - T_e _r___te_t / ____ / _r______d_
___t D_____ - ___e_t _r_ / R__e __ _______
Dead Letter Circus - T_e ___e / Here We Divide / T___ __ T_e __r____
___ E_____d - ___e____ / ___ __d T_e ____
___r__e_ - _e__e _ Tr__e / ___e__e/_______ / ___ __t T_ Dr___
__ee_ _____ ____r__ - _______ / _e _re T_e _r___t __r_er_
T_e ___er___ - __ ____t_ / T_e __r__ ___d____e
T_e ____er_ - _e_t _____ / R______ __r_e_ / __ T_e __r __t__de
_e_e_ ___re_ - T___ __d __ De_d / __r_ ___
wolfking: Angel Dust - Bleed/Cross of Hatred/Freedom Awaits
____rete ____de - __e_ / __tt_e ____ / _______e
Letters used: D R T E
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Angel Dust is Wolfking
Bleed/Cross Of Hatred/Freedom Awaits
The older I get, the more predictable I get lol.
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Yeah, it's not so much about material that's "second-tier', just that there's an argument that people perceive quality so very differently, that 14:50 of material I'd rate a 95 might have a better chance of someone else liking it than 13:10 of material I'd rate a 99, just by sheer chance and volume.
(https://c.tenor.com/M7FqIzkj5eMAAAAM/hmm-thinking.gif)
This is close to the best gif I've ever seen, top tier.
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F
Bleed is an awesome track btw. Cross of Hatred too; I'm not sure if I remember Freedom Awaits.
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Deftones
Concrete Blonde....HOF??
Mile Marker Zero...now THAT is Kingshmegland
Toto must be Kattelox. ;D I'll go with Romdrums.
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F
Bleed is an awesome track btw. Cross of Hatred too; I'm not sure if I remember Freedom Awaits.
Second last track on the Of Human Bondage album. Kinda different for them and a little more melodic and catchy.
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There's nothing more catchy than human bondage. :lol
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F
Bleed is an awesome track btw. Cross of Hatred too; I'm not sure if I remember Freedom Awaits.
Second last track on the Of Human Bondage album. Kinda different for them and a little more melodic and catchy.
It's been a while since I listened to that album; I'll have to refresh my memory.
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what if it was bleed by meshuggah tho :justjen
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King Gizzard is Twosuitsluke
Robot Stop
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Yeah, it's not so much about material that's "second-tier', just that there's an argument that people perceive quality so very differently, that 14:50 of material I'd rate a 95 might have a better chance of someone else liking it than 13:10 of material I'd rate a 99, just by sheer chance and volume.
(https://c.tenor.com/M7FqIzkj5eMAAAAM/hmm-thinking.gif)
:lol
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what if it was bleed by meshuggah tho :justjen
I don't know Meshuggah song titles. but I suspect I'd say that I would prefer an instrumental version... :)
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Deftones
Concrete Blonde....HOF??
Mile Marker Zero...now THAT is Kingshmegland
Toto must be Kattelox. ;D I'll go with Romdrums.
Mile Marker Zero is King and Toto is Rom. Concrete Blonde is not HOF.
King Gizzard is Twosuitsluke
Robot Stop
Yep.
Here's Lethean's F. Not that many here:
twosuitsluke: King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - Robot Stop / ___e_t_ ____t___ / ____ ___ _
Deftones - __er_e __t_ / E_t___ed / ____e__
romdrums: Toto - _etter __r_d / ___e T_ T_e ___e
__t___ - __t_t_de / __d F_e_
__t_t____ - E__de__e / _____er / _e__ E__t___
____ - _______e _f _ D__t__t _r__d / ___rtfr_e_d / ____de ___r F_r
____ _r_____ - F___e_ ___e_ / E__t___
kingshmegland: Mile Marker Zero - T_e _r___te_t / ____ / _r______d_
___t D_____ - ___e_t _r_ / R__e _f _______
Dead Letter Circus - T_e ___e / Here We Divide / T___ __ T_e __r____
___ E_____d - ___e____ / ___ __d T_e ____
___r__e_ - _e__e _ Tr__e / ___e__e/_______ / ___ __t T_ Dr___
__ee_ _____ ____r__ - _______ / _e _re T_e _r___t __r_er_
T_e ___er___ - __ ____t_ / T_e __r__ ___d____e
T_e ____er_ - _e_t _____ / R______ __r_e_ / __ T_e __r __t__de
_e_e_ ___re_ - T___ __d __ De_d / __r_ ___
wolfking: Angel Dust - Bleed / Cross of Hatred / Freedom Awaits
Concrete Blonde - __e_ / __tt_e ____ / _______e
Letters used: D R T E F
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Think I've figured out one.
Lethean sent Katatonia - "Evidence", "Follower", "Neon Epitaph"
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You're close, but not quite. :)
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Did you catch my edit while you were replying? I had realized there are more characters in that block than I first noticed and I swapped out my second choice for that spot.
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I've only seen the edit. What was your first guess? BTW F has already been guessed... :)
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Oops, you're right. Then I'm hoping my first one was accurate, "Lacquer". I had miscounted again and thought there were six letters before "er" rather than five.
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Entombed
Give me a M
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Oops, you're right. Then I'm hoping my first one was accurate, "Lacquer". I had miscounted again and thought there were six letters before "er" rather than five.
That's right. :)
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Phew. They have way more "er" songs than I realized. And even an "ur" song. But man are you living dangerously. 425 supposedly isn't into too overtly depressing music, and Katatonia is some of the bleakest stuff around. So totally worth it though. So much of the music I like is pretty melancholic too though, so I may wind up shooting myself in the foot at some point, especially since I don't generally pay that much attention to lyrics.
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Phew. They have way more "er" songs than I realized. And even an "ur" song. But man are you living dangerously. 425 supposedly isn't into too overtly depressing music, and Katatonia is some of the bleakest stuff around. So totally worth it though. So much of the music I like is pretty melancholic too though, so I may wind up shooting myself in the foot at some point, especially since I don't generally pay that much attention to lyrics.
Well, if I'm participating in a roulette and Katatonia is not banned... :angel:
I did explain to 425 why I don't think either Evidence or Neon Epitaph are bleak, and I hope he agrees. Lacquer maybe, but it's so so beautiful. :)
At least there are no eliminations after round 1. :)
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(Also I may have subjected TAC to 3 or 4 rounds of Katatonia in his roulettes and then after he made a rule that you couldn't send repeat bands, I sent him an EP of songs where Jonas Renkse guested).
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He seemed to be trying to find bands he can get into the larger discographies of though. If he comes across "Gone", "Saw You Drown", "Gateways of Bereavement", "We Must Bury You", "Omerta" and such he may never finish the roulette. :lol
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In my mind, there's a kind of sad music that I like and a kind that I don't. These kinds are clearly distinct to me, but I still haven't figured out a way to describe these in a way that makes it fully clear to others. The best I've been able to do is comparisons, like "there's a big difference to me between Evergrey sad and Porcupine Tree sad."
The guesses have been right. Here's the M.
twosuitsluke: King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - Robot Stop / M__e_t_ M___t___ / ____ __m _
Deftones - __er_e __t_ / Entombed / __m_e__
romdrums: Toto - _etter __r_d / ___e T_ T_e ___e
__t_m_ - __t_t_de / __d F_e_
Lethean: Katatonia - Evidence / Lacquer / Neon Epitaph
____ - _______e _f _ D__t__t _r__d / _m_rtfr_e_d / ____de ___r F_r
____ _r_m___ - F___e_ ___e_ / E__t___
kingshmegland: Mile Marker Zero - T_e _r___te_t / ____ / _r______d_
___t D_m___ - ___e_t _r_ / R__e _f _______
Dead Letter Circus - T_e M__e / Here We Divide / T___ __ T_e __r____
___ E_____d - ___e_m__ / ___ __d T_e M___
___r__e_ - _e__e _ Tr__e / ___e__e/_______ / ___ __t T_ Dr___
__ee_ _____ ____r_m - _______ / _e _re T_e _r___t __r_er_
T_e ___er__m - __ ____t_ / T_e M_r__ ___d____e
T_e ____er_ - _e_t _____ / R______ __r_e_ / __ T_e __r __t__de
_e_e_ ___re_ - T___ __d __ De_d / __r_ ___
wolfking: Angel Dust - Bleed / Cross of Hatred / Freedom Awaits
Concrete Blonde - __e_ / __tt_e ____ / _______e
Letters used: D R T E F M
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He seemed to be trying to find bands he can get into the larger discographies of though. If he comes across "Gone", "Saw You Drown", "Gateways of Bereavement", "We Must Bury You" and such he may never finish the roulette. :lol
I don't think I'd send any of those in a roulette - those are for after you've already become a fan, I think. :)
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(Also I may have subjected TAC to 3 or 4 rounds of Katatonia in his roulettes and then after he made a rule that you couldn't send repeat bands, I sent him an EP of songs where Jonas Renkse guested).
That's how you win at life.
He seemed to be trying to find bands he can get into the larger discographies of though. If he comes across "Gone", "Saw You Drown", "Gateways of Bereavement", "We Must Bury You" and such he may never finish the roulette. :lol
I don't think I'd send any of those in a roulette - those are for after you've already become a fan, I think. :)
"Passing Bird" is the song that sold me, but I'm weird.
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This is, I think, the first roulette I'm not participating in since I joined this forum 5 years ago. However, dealing with personal tragedy has put a massive damper on my enthusiasm lately. I will be following this though. Good luck everyone. And I'm rooting for LithoJazzoSphere, since this is his first roulette as a participant. :tup :metal :kvlt:
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Thanks for dropping in, Puppies! I'm really sorry for your loss, and I certainly understand why you wouldn't want to participate in roulettes right now.
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Let's go for a B.
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(Also I may have subjected TAC to 3 or 4 rounds of Katatonia in his roulettes and then after he made a rule that you couldn't send repeat bands, I sent him an EP of songs where Jonas Renkse guested).
That's how you win at life.
Where have you been for all of my time at this forum? :)
:metal At life, for sure. TAC's roulette - not so much. :)
He seemed to be trying to find bands he can get into the larger discographies of though. If he comes across "Gone", "Saw You Drown", "Gateways of Bereavement", "We Must Bury You" and such he may never finish the roulette. :lol
I don't think I'd send any of those in a roulette - those are for after you've already become a fan, I think. :)
"Passing Bird" is the song that sold me, but I'm weird.
That's a *great* song. So are the ones you mentioned, btw. We Must Bury You is my favorite of those, but I love the version of Gone from Sanctitude.
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This is, I think, the first roulette I'm not participating in since I joined this forum 5 years ago. However, dealing with personal tragedy has put a massive damper on my enthusiasm lately. I will be following this though. Good luck everyone. And I'm rooting for LithoJazzoSphere, since this is his first roulette as a participant. :tup :metal :kvlt:
I hope you're doing OK, Puppies. *hugs* if you want them.
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Thanks for dropping in, Puppies! I'm really sorry for your loss, and I certainly understand why you wouldn't want to participate in roulettes right now.
This is, I think, the first roulette I'm not participating in since I joined this forum 5 years ago. However, dealing with personal tragedy has put a massive damper on my enthusiasm lately. I will be following this though. Good luck everyone. And I'm rooting for LithoJazzoSphere, since this is his first roulette as a participant. :tup :metal :kvlt:
I hope you're doing OK, Puppies. *hugs* if you want them.
:hug:
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Dead Letter Circus - One Step/Here We Divide/Cage.
I didn't know "Cage" was four words totaling 13 letters. :biggrin:
One Step is also wrong, but Here We Divide is correct.
____ ____rd __d T__ ____rd ____rd - R___t _t__ / _____t_ ____t___ / ____ ___ _
D__t____ - ___r__ __t_ / __t____d / _______
T_t_ - __tt_r __r_d / ____ t_ t__ ____
__t___ - __t_t_d_ / __d ____
__t_t____ - ___d____ / ______r / ____ ___t___
____ - ________ __ _ D__t__t _r__d / ___rt_r___d / ____d_ ___r __r
____ _r_____ - ______ _____ / ___t___
____ __r__r __r_ - T__ _r___t__t / ____ / _r______d_
___t D_____ - _____t _r_ / R___ __ _______
Dead Letter Circus - T__ ____ / Here We Divide / T___ __ T__ __r____
___ ______d - ________ / ___ __d T__ ____
___r____ - _____ _ Tr___ / _______/_______ / ___ __t T_ Dr___
_____ _____ ____r__ - _______ / __ _r_ T__ _r___t __r__r_
T__ ____r___ - __ ____t_ / T__ __r__ ___d_____
T__ _____r_ - ___t _____ / R______ __r___ / __ T__ __r __t__d_
_____ ___r__ - T___ __d __ D__d / __r_ ___
_____ D__t - ____d / _r___ __ __tr_d / _r__d__ ____t_
____r_t_ ____d_ - ____ / __tt__ ____ / ________
Letters used: D R T
LOL, was on my phone and didn't see the rest of the song.
EDIT: I dunno what the fuck I was looking at now lol.
EDIT 2: This is the Warning/The Veil?
Edit 3: The Mile
425, incased you missed my post.
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This is, I think, the first roulette I'm not participating in since I joined this forum 5 years ago. However, dealing with personal tragedy has put a massive damper on my enthusiasm lately. I will be following this though. Good luck everyone. And I'm rooting for LithoJazzoSphere, since this is his first roulette as a participant. :tup :metal :kvlt:
WTF?! Holy shit, that's some effort. Mad respect man. :metal :eek
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Is Dead Letter Circus Cyril?
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Other two Deftones songs are Swerve City and Tempest (someone sure likes Koi No Yokan :P)
Magenta Mountain
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VOLA- Smartfriend, Applause of a Distant Crowd, Inside Your Fur
How about an A.
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Inside your fur? :lol
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LOL, was on my phone and didn't see the rest of the song.
EDIT: I dunno what the fuck I was looking at now lol.
EDIT 2: This is the Warning/The Veil?
Edit 3: The Mile
425, incased you missed my post.
Thanks, I saw the post but missed the edits.
Other two Deftones songs are Swerve City and Tempest (someone sure likes Koi No Yokan :P)
Yes to Swerve City, no to Tempest.
Is Dead Letter Circus Cyril?
No.
All other guesses were correct, unless I missed any.
I hear requests for a B and an A.
twosuitsluke: King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - Robot Stop / Magenta Mountain / ____ __m _
Deftones - Swerve City / Entombed / __m_e__
romdrums: Toto - Better __r_d / _a_e T_ T_e B__e
A_t_m_ - A_t_t_de / __d F_e_
Lethean: Katatonia - Evidence / Lacquer / Neon Epitaph
VOLA - Applause of a Distant Crowd / Smartfriend / Inside Your Fur
____ _r_m___ - Fa__e_ A__e_ / E__ta__
kingshmegland: Mile Marker Zero - T_e Ar___te_t / ____ / _r__a_a_da
___t D_ma__ - ___e_t _r_ / R__e _f ____a__
Dead Letter Circus - The Mile / Here We Divide / This is the Warning
__a E_____d - B_ae_ma_ / ___ A_d T_e M___
___r__e_ - Leave a Trace / ___e__e/_______ / ___ __t T_ Dr___
__ee_ B____ ____r_m - _a_____ / _e Are T_e _r___t _ar_er_
T_e __ber_am - __ _a__t_ / T_e M_ra_ _a_d__a_e
T_e ____er_ - _e_t _____ / R__a_a_ __r_e_ / __ T_e _ar __t__de
_e_e_ ___re_ - T___ __d __ Dead / B_r_ ___
wolfking: Angel Dust - Bleed / Cross of Hatred / Freedom Awaits
Concrete Blonde - __e_ / __tt_e ____ / ____ab_e
Letters used: D R T E F M B A
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I see a song called Leave A Trace.
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Yes, you do.
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Is Dead Letter Circus Cyril?
all these years and yet you know so little about me :millahhhh
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Is Dead Letter Circus Cyril?
all these years and yet you know so little about me :millahhhh
I thought I saw you send them or mention them before. I guess not. :lol
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i'm not even sure what genre they are but i assume generic prog rock/metal :corn
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I think the missing Deftones track is "Tempest"
I think the Toto tracks are "Better World" and "Jake To The Bone".
Is there a criteria for asking for a letter? If not, I'll take an "S".
Where have you been for all of my time at this forum? :)
For some reason I guess they haven't come up much in recent topics. Their last album was '20, so I suppose discussion was probably heavier regarding them before I was posting much.
I love the version of Gone from Sanctitude.
It's certainly a nice alternate version. I still definitely prefer the original. That sustained tone at the beginning like a heartrate flatlining is one of my favorite things about it, and it's absent in the Sanctitude version. I also rarely say something like this, but the live version is really too "pretty". I really love the griminess and gritty dirge of the electrics on the original, where even the "clean" tone is kind of messy.
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This is, I think, the first roulette I'm not participating in since I joined this forum 5 years ago. However, dealing with personal tragedy has put a massive damper on my enthusiasm lately. I will be following this though. Good luck everyone. And I'm rooting for LithoJazzoSphere, since this is his first roulette as a participant. :tup :metal :kvlt:
Damn, I'm so sorry dude. Take your time, there'll be plenty of roulettes in the future.
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The band with "Leave a Trace" is CHVRCHES, and another of the songs is "How Not To Drown". The other two are really stumping me.
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I think the missing Deftones track is "Tempest"
I think the Toto tracks are "Better World" and "Jake To The Bone".
Is there a criteria for asking for a letter? If not, I'll take an "S".
It's not Tempest, folks!
The Toto and CHVRCHES guesses are correct. This might help with CHVRCHES: Note that wherever a slash is separating two distinct songs, I put a space on either side of the slash.
We just guess a letter whenever anyone wants to see another. Here's the S:
twosuitsluke: King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - Robot Stop / Magenta Mountain / S___ _am _
Deftones - Swerve City / Entombed / __m_e__
romdrums: Toto - Better World / Jake to the Bone
A_t_m_ - A_t_t_de / __d F_e_
Lethean: Katatonia - Evidence / Lacquer / Neon Epitaph
VOLA - Applause of a Distant Crowd / Smartfriend / Inside Your Fur
____ _r_ms__ - Fa__e_ A__e_ / E__ta__
kingshmegland: Mile Marker Zero - T_e Ar___te_t / ____ / _r__a_a_da
__st D_ma__ - S__e_t _r_ / R_se _f _s__as_
Dead Letter Circus - The Mile / Here We Divide / This is the Warning
__a E_____d - B_ae_ma_ / S__ A_d T_e M___
Cyril: CHVRCHES - Leave a Trace / Science/Visions / How Not to Drown
S_eet B____ ____r_m - _a___s_ / _e Are T_e _r___t _ar_ers
T_e __ber_am - __ Sa__t_ / T_e M_ra_ _a_ds_a_e
T_e ____ers - _est ____s / R__a_a_ __rses / __ T_e _ar __ts_de
Se_e_ S__res - T__s __d _s Dead / B_r_ ___
wolfking: Angel Dust - Bleed / Cross of Hatred / Freedom Awaits
Stadler: Concrete Blonde - __e_ / __tt_e ____ / ____ab_e
Letters used: D R T E F M B A S
Note that I've also added an "a" that I missed earlier in the third King Gizzard song.
Edit: Also just added a "t" I missed in the 13th artist name.
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The band with "Leave a Trace" is CHVRCHES, and another of the songs is "How Not To Drown". The other two are really stumping me.
CHVRCHES has to be Cyril.
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And so it is. Congratulations on your win over TAC in the "who knows Cyril best" competition!
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it may be shocking to learn i did -not- send the mother we share until you consider that i already did so in a previous 425 roulette :neverusethis:
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And just to speak to the question of artists I've been sent before, since that's come up with CHVRCHES and Katatonia already: The fact that an artist I've sent before isn't banned doesn't necessarily mean I didn't like what I heard or that I'm not interested in them. There's a whole list of artists I'm interested in investigating further, but part of the question is: How motivated am I to invest the time in them? Getting additional songs from an artist like that in this roulette will help raise or lower my motivation depending on how I feel about those songs. So it's not inherently risky to send an artist I've heard before.
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Concrete Blonde had to be sent by Stadler.
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I'm pretty sure I sent VOLA before and you didn't really enjoy it, so VOLA is not me :)
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The other CHVRCHES song is "Science/Visions". Differentiating types of slash marks did throw me off.
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Concrete Blonde had to be sent by Stadler.
The other CHVRCHES song is "Science/Visions". Differentiating types of slash marks did throw me off.
Both correct. I guess I could have just left out the slash and had it as "Science Visions," but I guess we got there in the end.
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yeah 425 using slashes to separate song titles was very amusing given one of the song titles i sent :lol
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One of the Concrete Blonde songs is Joey, because that’s the only song of theirs I know.
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I think the missing Deftones track is "Tempest"
I think the Toto tracks are "Better World" and "Jake To The Bone".
Is there a criteria for asking for a letter? If not, I'll take an "S".
Where have you been for all of my time at this forum? :)
For some reason I guess they haven't come up much in recent topics. Their last album was '20, so I suppose discussion was probably heavier regarding them before I was posting much.
No, I haven't been around the forum as much lately myself - that was just my way of saying I'm glad to "meet" another Katatonia fan. :)
I love the version of Gone from Sanctitude.
It's certainly a nice alternate version. I still definitely prefer the original. That sustained tone at the beginning like a heartrate flatlining is one of my favorite things about it, and it's absent in the Sanctitude version. I also rarely say something like this, but the live version is really too "pretty". I really love the griminess and gritty dirge of the electrics on the original, where even the "clean" tone is kind of messy.
No that heartrate thing is a good point The original is perfectly fine as is - you won't find any complaints here. I just love that whole Sanctitude performance and it's one that I really wish I'd been able to see live and in person myself. I love the vibe with the crowd and how Jonas' vocals aren't perfect and yet that makes it perfect somehow and.... I could go on.
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And just to speak to the question of artists I've been sent before, since that's come up with CHVRCHES and Katatonia already: The fact that an artist I've sent before isn't banned doesn't necessarily mean I didn't like what I heard or that I'm not interested in them. There's a whole list of artists I'm interested in investigating further, but part of the question is: How motivated am I to invest the time in them? Getting additional songs from an artist like that in this roulette will help raise or lower my motivation depending on how I feel about those songs. So it's not inherently risky to send an artist I've heard before.
I can relate to this and if I were to do another roulette, there are probably more artists from my first roulette that would not be banned vs those that are. And some of those songs I really loved, but I'm just slow about exploring new stuff. I just got into one of the artists earlier this year and became kind of obsessive about it, and maybe had I tried earlier it wouldn't have had the same impact.
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Seems like we've totally stalled out. Maybe go for an "O" now?
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give me the C for CHVRCHES
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CHVRCHES is Cyril!
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And I think the other Deftones song might be "Pompeji".
Edit: Lol, 4 replies in 3-4 minutes now.
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CHVRCHES is Cyril!
we been known
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I'm also going to suggest that the two other Concrete Blonde songs are "Little Wing" and "Lullabye".
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Lost Domain. Tim?
Rise of Isolash and Silent Cry.
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Lost Domain. Tim?
Rise of Isolash and Silent Cry.
:metal
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All accurate guesses here: Lost Domain, all the Concrete Blonde songs, and Pompeji.
Here's the O.
twosuitsluke: King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - Robot Stop / Magenta Mountain / S_o_ _am _
Deftones - Swerve City / Entombed / Pompeji
romdrums: Toto - Better World / Jake to the Bone
A_t_m_ - A_t_t_de / O_d F_e_
Lethean: Katatonia - Evidence / Lacquer / Neon Epitaph
VOLA - Applause of a Distant Crowd / Smartfriend / Inside Your Fur
____ _r_mso_ - Fa__e_ A__e_ / E__ta__
kingshmegland: Mile Marker Zero - T_e Ar___te_t / ____ / _ro_a_a_da
TAC: Lost Domain - Silent Cry / Rise of Isolash
Dead Letter Circus - The Mile / Here We Divide / This is the Warning
O_a E_____d - B_ae_ma_ / S__ A_d T_e Moo_
Cyril: CHVRCHES - Leave a Trace / Science/Visions / How Not to Drown
S_eet B____ ____r_m - _a___so / _e Are T_e _r___t _ar_ers
T_e __ber_am - __ Sa__t_ / T_e Mora_ _a_ds_a_e
T_e ____ers - _est ____s / R__a_a_ _orses / __ T_e _ar O_ts_de
Se_e_ S__res - T__s _od _s Dead / B_r_ _o_
wolfking: Angel Dust - Bleed / Cross of Hatred / Freedom Awaits
Stadler: Concrete Blonde - Joey / Little Wing / Lullabye
Letters used: D R T E F M B A S O
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Slow Jam 1
The Architect
2001
Ola Englund
Sweet Billy Pilgrim
The Cyberiam (sent by Ariich)
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Wait Ariich isn't in this roulette. :lol
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altitude
king crimson - epitaph
sun and the moon
seven spires - this god is dead?
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That would make the other King Crimson song "Fallen Angel", and the other Seven Spires song "Bury You".
The Ola Englund songs should be "Balegmah" and "Sun And The Moon". It seems the former might have been misspelled?
The Cyberiam songs should be "In SaN1tY" and "The Moral Landscape".
Sweet Billy Pilgrim songs should be "Kalypso" and "We Are The Bright Carvers".
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Slow Jam 1
The Architect
2001
Ola Englund
Sweet Billy Pilgrim
The Cyberiam (sent by Ariich)
Yes
Yes
No to 2001
Yes
Yes
Yes to The Cyberiam, no to Ariich
altitude
king crimson - epitaph
sun and the moon
seven spires - this god is dead?
Yes to all four.
That would make the other King Crimson song "Fallen Angel", and the other Seven Spires song "Bury You".
The Ola Englund songs should be "Balegmah" and "Sun And The Moon". It seems the former might have been misspelled?
The Cyberiam songs should be "In SaN1tY" and "The Moral Landscape".
Yes to all. Good catch on the spelling—the person who sent me "Balegmah" spelled it "Blaegmah" in their PM, and I just now realized that that doesn't match the spelling on Spotify. Corrected.
Edit: Yes to the Sweet Billy Pilgrim songs you just edited in.
Note that the King Crimson songs are both live versions from 2017. I just decided not to include that part in the hangman.
twosuitsluke: King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - Robot Stop / Magenta Mountain / Slow Jam 1
Deftones - Swerve City / Entombed / Pompeji
romdrums: Toto - Better World / Jake to the Bone
A_t_m_ - Altitude / O_d F_e_
Lethean: Katatonia - Evidence / Lacquer / Neon Epitaph
VOLA - Applause of a Distant Crowd / Smartfriend / Inside Your Fur
King Crimson - Fallen Angel (Live 2017) / Epitaph (Live 2017)
kingshmegland: Mile Marker Zero - The Architect / ____ / _ro_a_a_da
TAC: Lost Domain - Silent Cry / Rise of Isolash
Dead Letter Circus - The Mile / Here We Divide / This is the Warning
Ola Englund - Balegmah / Sun and the Moon
Cyril: CHVRCHES - Leave a Trace / Science/Visions / How Not to Drown
Sweet Billy Pilgrim - Kalypso / We Are the Bright Carvers
The Cyberiam - In SaN1tY / The Moral Landscape
T_e ____ers - _est ____s / R__a_a_ _orses / __ T_e _ar O_ts_de
Seven Spires - This God Is Dead / Bury You
wolfking: Angel Dust - Bleed / Cross of Hatred / Freedom Awaits
Stadler: Concrete Blonde - Joey / Little Wing / Lullabye
Letters used: D R T E F M B A S O
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The Killers - "West Hills", "Runaway Horses" and "In The Car Outside".
Mile Marker Zero tracks are "2020" and "Propaganda".
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Autumn - Old Fuel
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Did Sacul send Deftones?
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The Killers are there
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The Killers - "West Hills", "Runaway Horses" and "In The Car Outside".
Mile Marker Zero tracks are "2020" and "Propaganda".
Autumn - Old Fuel
These complete the artists and songs! I'm now going to rearrange the hangman so it's clearer where the senders have been figured out and where they are still unknown.
Did Sacul send Deftones?
Yes.
twosuitsluke: King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - Robot Stop / Magenta Mountain / Slow Jam 1
Sacul: Deftones - Swerve City / Entombed / Pompeji
romdrums: Toto - Better World / Jake to the Bone
Lethean: Katatonia - Evidence / Lacquer / Neon Epitaph
kingshmegland: Mile Marker Zero - The Architect / 2020 / Propaganda
TAC: Lost Domain - Silent Cry / Rise of Isolash
Cyril: CHVRCHES - Leave a Trace / Science/Visions / How Not to Drown
wolfking: Angel Dust - Bleed / Cross of Hatred / Freedom Awaits
Stadler: Concrete Blonde - Joey / Little Wing / Lullabye
HOF: Sweet Billy Pilgrim - Kalypso / We Are the Bright Carvers
senecadawg2: The Killers - West Hills / Runaway Horses / In the Car Outside
Buddyhunter1: VOLA - Applause of a Distant Crowd / Smartfriend / Inside Your Fur
Reaper KK: Ola Englund - Balegmah / Sun and the Moon
LithoJazzoSphere: Autumn - Altitude / Old Fuel
Tomislav95: Dead Letter Circus - The Mile / Here We Divide / This is the Warning
King Crimson - Fallen Angel (Live 2017) / Epitaph (Live 2017)
The Cyberiam - In SaN1tY / The Moral Landscape
Seven Spires - This God Is Dead / Bury You
Unguessed participants:
Elite
soupytwist
Vmadera00
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This part is going to be virtually impossible for me, given that I don't have nearly as much forum history knowing everyone'e tastes. You guys are on your own for this section. :corn
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HOF sent Sweet Billy Pilgrim
Tomi sent King Crimson
Senecadawg sent The Killers?
LithoJazzoSphere sent VOLA?
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LithoJazzoSphere sent VOLA?
I love them, but no.
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HOF sent Sweet Billy Pilgrim
Tomi sent King Crimson
Senecadawg sent The Killers?
LithoJazzoSphere sent VOLA?
2/4. Yes, no, yes, no.
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Did Elite send Vola? No idea if that's a sensible guess but why not?
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I'm pretty sure I sent VOLA before and you didn't really enjoy it, so VOLA is not me :)
So I would say it is sensible but incorrect.
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VOLA is Buddy
Ola Englund is Reaper
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Me? No, I'd never misspell Balegmah
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Litho sent The Cyberiam?
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Nope.
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Nope.
Autumn?
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We have a winner!
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VOLA is Buddy
Ola Englund is Reaper
Nope.
Autumn?
These are correct, despite Reaper's record of never misspelling anything ever.
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We have a winner!
Not a band I know much (re : anything about). As you are in my group and therefore one of my mortal enemies for at least a couple of weeks, I hope they suck ;D
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:corn
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So are we just at that phase of hangman where no one is interested in guessing anymore? I'll post the solutions later today if so.
I'm about 1.5 listens in, aiming for three total. The first set of results will probably be posted Friday, with later sets coming Saturday and maybe as late as Sunday. I'll post impressions once the hangman issue is resolved one way or another.
One thing I'll say at this point is that in this round at least there is a real disparity between the strongest and weakest pools. Some people got unlucky RNG! I would not be surprised if last place in my favorite pool ends up being a submission I like better than the winner of my least favorite pool.
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Elite - Seven Spires
soupytwist - King Crimson
Tomislav95 - Dead Letter Circus
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Tomislav is right, the other two are wrong. I don't think it should be too hard to work out the rest from there...
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So are we just at that phase of hangman where no one is interested in guessing anymore? I'll post the solutions later today if so.
I'll post impressions once the hangman issue is resolved one way or another.
Maybe... ready for First Impressions though!
One thing I'll say at this point is that in this round at least there is a real disparity between the strongest and weakest pools. Some people got unlucky RNG! I would not be surprised if last place in my favorite pool ends up being a submission I like better than the winner of my least favorite pool.
That's no consolation! :lol
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Alright, I'll post impressions once I'm off work.
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Soupytwist - Seven Spires?
vmadera00 - The Cyberiam?
Elite - King Crimson?
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Yep.
Complete set of submissions, reorganized by pool:
Pool A:
Lethean: Katatonia - Evidence / Lacquer / Neon Epitaph
Sacul: Deftones - Swerve City / Entombed / Pompeji
senecadawg2: The Killers - West Hills / Runaway Horses / In the Car Outside
Pool B:
Reaper KK: Ola Englund - Balegmah / Sun and the Moon
twosuitsluke: King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - Robot Stop / Magenta Mountain / Slow Jam 1
wolfking: Angel Dust - Bleed / Cross of Hatred / Freedom Awaits
Pool C:
Elite: King Crimson - Fallen Angel (Live 2017) / Epitaph (Live 2017)
Buddyhunter1: VOLA - Applause of a Distant Crowd / Smartfriend / Inside Your Fur
HOF: Sweet Billy Pilgrim - Kalypso / We Are the Bright Carvers
Pool D:
kingshmegland: Mile Marker Zero - The Architect / 2020 / Propaganda
Stadler: Concrete Blonde - Joey / Little Wing / Lullabye
Vmadera00: The Cyberiam - In SaN1tY / The Moral Landscape
Pool E:
LithoJazzoSphere: Autumn - Altitude / Old Fuel
soupytwist: Seven Spires - This God Is Dead / Bury You
Tomislav95: Dead Letter Circus - The Mile / Here We Divide / This is the Warning
Pool F:
Cyril: CHVRCHES - Leave a Trace / Science/Visions / How Not to Drown
romdrums: Toto - Better World / Jake to the Bone
TAC: Lost Domain - Silent Cry / Rise of Isolash
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Interesting batch of tracks.
I'm already third in my pool. :lol
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and each pool's letter is indicative of the score it's getting :neverusethis:
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Then I'm really F'd.
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Interesting batch of tracks.
I'm already third in my pool. :lol
I listed them alphabetically (except for Pool C where I messed up), so that's really your fault for not changing your name to Austin or Aaron.
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Vmadera00, I'm always chatting with Frank Lucas on Facebook. He's awesome.
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Who is Frank Lucas?
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Frank Lucas, wow, another name I haven't heard in forever. He used to post on the Jordan Rudess forum. I see he's the keyboardist in The Cyberiam now.
At least I'm not in pool C or F. But I might come out last anyway, two of those DLC tracks are killer, and Seven Spires is growing on me. Risky pick though.
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Vmadera00, I'm always chatting with Frank Lucas on Facebook. He's awesome.
That's cool!
I didn't know about them until a few months ago when Keith Semple opened for Riverside. He played stripped down versions of their songs. I checked out the studio stuff and was really impressed. Good stuff :metal
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We have a winner!
Not a band I know much (re : anything about). As you are in my group and therefore one of my mortal enemies for at least a couple of weeks, I hope they suck ;D
They might, but I'm hoping he hates the growls and blasts in Seven Spires. :D
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I'm hoping Epitaph is too depressing for 425 :biggrin:
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In round A I'm obviously rooting for Katatonia, even though they don't completely fit his criteria. Deftones have some outstanding tracks, though the selected ones aren't really favorites of mine. The Killers aren't my sort of thing, though the guitar arpeggios on "Mr. Brightside" are beautiful and fun to play (but that song isn't in the pool).
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Vmadera00, I'm always chatting with Frank Lucas on Facebook. He's awesome.
That's cool!
I didn't know about them until a few months ago when Keith Semple opened for Riverside. He played stripped down versions of their songs. I checked out the studio stuff and was really impressed. Good stuff :metal
I saw them at Progstock in 2018. They were fantastic live.
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i hope 425 likes chvrches :corn
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In round A I'm obviously rooting for Katatonia, even though they don't completely fit his criteria.
Obviously. :)
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i hope 425 likes chvrches :corn
They're a really curious phenomenon. They don't really have anything to do with the prog world, but a lot of prog fans eat them up. Of all the different synth/electropop groups, I'm not sure why them and not others, but their first and latest albums are fantastic.
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the joke is i know 425 likes chvrches and i'm surprised (but not disappointed) they weren't banned :corn
i like all their albums except the one nobody likes tho
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"Deliverance" is an amazing song, but I haven't had the motivation to go back to the rest of Love Is Dead in quite awhile. I also want to revisit Every Open Eye again sometime. I listened to it a number of times when it came out, but it just didn't click with me like it did with others.
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We have a winner!
Not a band I know much (re : anything about). As you are in my group and therefore one of my mortal enemies for at least a couple of weeks, I hope they suck ;D
They might, but I'm hoping he hates the growls and blasts in Seven Spires. :D
I don't know 425 at all, aside from the Kamelot avatar, so my first pick has Roy Khan as guest vocalist - I'm hoping that is more or a positive than the growls are a negative, or I'm screwed!!
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I was wondering whether that's the only extreme metal track Khan has done, but I notice he's worked with Crest of Darkness, so no.
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I was wondering whether that's the only extreme metal track Khan has done, but I notice he's worked with Crest of Darkness, so no.
Kamelot themselves have the odd growl (like liar, liar) but I think they are all in the Tommy era.
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the joke is i know 425 likes chvrches and i'm surprised (but not disappointed) they weren't banned :corn
i like all their albums except the one nobody likes tho
Then whoever the hell sent me a CHVRCHES song must be from that album because it might've been the worst thing I've ever been sent in a roulette.
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I was wondering whether that's the only extreme metal track Khan has done, but I notice he's worked with Crest of Darkness, so no.
Kamelot themselves have the odd growl (liar, liar) but I think they are all in the Tommy era.
Noooo... March of Mephisto should never be forgotten. :)
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the joke is i know 425 likes chvrches and i'm surprised (but not disappointed) they weren't banned :corn
i like all their albums except the one nobody likes tho
Then whoever the hell sent me a CHVRCHES song must be from that album because it might've been the worst thing I've ever been sent in a roulette.
nah that's just a side-effect of you being an old man
i have no clue what song was sent i'm just gonna assume it was a good one
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the joke is i know 425 likes chvrches and i'm surprised (but not disappointed) they weren't banned :corn
i like all their albums except the one nobody likes tho
Then whoever the hell sent me a CHVRCHES song must be from that album because it might've been the worst thing I've ever been sent in a roulette.
nah that's just a side-effect of you being an old man
i have no clue what song was sent i'm just gonna assume it was a good one
Going through my documents, it wasn't sent to me, but it was during K-lox's roulette's (which I apparently replaced you halfway through) second round by these two:
Bolsters: CHVRCHES
1. The Mother We Share
2. Gun
3. Graffiti
4. Wonderland
5. Never Say Die
Shadow Ninja 2.0: CHVRCHES
1. The Mother We Share
2. Lies
3. Clearest Blue
4. Leave a Trace
These were my two Cat-pressions for these songs.
CHVCHES
(https://i.imgflip.com/44lkte.jpg)
CHVCHES 2
(https://i.imgflip.com/44ll1j.jpg)
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I was wondering whether that's the only extreme metal track Khan has done, but I notice he's worked with Crest of Darkness, so no.
Kamelot themselves have the odd growl (liar, liar) but I think they are all in the Tommy era.
Noooo... March of Mephisto should never be forgotten. :)
Seriously, I'm almost convinced to put soupytwist last just for forgetting March of Mephisto and Memento Mori.
Growls aren't automatically a negative, folks. They often will be, but they can be a positive.
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I was wondering whether that's the only extreme metal track Khan has done, but I notice he's worked with Crest of Darkness, so no.
Kamelot themselves have the odd growl (liar, liar) but I think they are all in the Tommy era.
Noooo... March of Mephisto should never be forgotten. :)
Seriously, I'm almost convinced to put soupytwist last just for forgetting March of Mephisto and Memento Mori.
Growls aren't automatically a negative, folks. They often will be, but they can be a positive.
Lol. Fair point!.....and if you rank me last because of it i'm sure I'll not be bitter and send you the worst music I can find for rounds 2 & 3 - knowing you'll have to listen to it at least three times ☺️
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bolsters did actually send quite a lot of love is dead, but both of them sent the best chvrches song so :lol
i think SN wins that matchup by default tho bcuz i do not know love is dead very well
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Hmm, I had forgotten about those songs, but I'm a pretty casual Kamelot fan. "When the Lights Are Down" is always the song I come back to from TBH. "March of Mephisto" is cool as well, another nice Johansson solo I hadn't remembered, but Shagrath's vocals are kind of buried on the track, so no wonder I didn't recall them.
"The Mother We Share" is one of my favorite CHVRCHES tracks. "Lies" is great too. "Gun" took awhile to grow on me, but I like it now. The others are just ok for me, they have many others I prefer.
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I'm hoping Epitaph is too depressing for 425 :biggrin:
I actually went with the live versions (go listen to those, they're on the 'Meltdown' album) for that reason. Really cool versions of both tracks. There's a bunch of awesome renditions of King Crimson tunes on that one, but I could only do 15 minutes, which was roughly these two tracks combined.
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Alright, here's one set of impressions. I'm trying to balance being too vague and being too specific. I figure I'll do these in batches of six. Note that there's just one impression for each submission. Sometimes this will focus on a specific song, sometimes on the submission as a whole.
Also, I haven't kept up with what best practices are for impressions: Do people like it when the host confirms guesses as correct or incorrect, or is it better to leave it a mystery?
First six below.
They clearly have their own distinct sound, but not sure I like the vocals enough for them to stand out within this genre.
Songs of this particular type can struggle to be memorable to me, but these songs caught my interest right off the bat.
This is definitely the best foot forward of a band that I’ve had mixed feelings about. Not sure it'll be enough.
This has the sound I sort of expect to hear submitted by this person, but with a proggy slant I quite like.
I like this singer a lot. Her performance hits all the right emotional beats.
Much more sedate and melody-focused than I remembered this artist being, which is tentatively a good thing.
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I hope you like Deftones' singer a lot ;D
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the joke is i know 425 likes chvrches and i'm surprised (but not disappointed) they weren't banned :corn
i like all their albums except the one nobody likes tho
I like Love is dead
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I like this singer a lot. Her performance hits all the right emotional beats.
I think there are 4 female fronted acts in these selections. I'm not sure this is mine though.
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This has the sound I sort of expect to hear submitted by this person, but with a proggy slant I quite like.
Maybe this one? If not then mine isn't in this batch.
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Impressions #1, 2, 3 & 6 could potentially apply to King Crimson. They’re a bit too vague (which is fine).
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I like this singer a lot. Her performance hits all the right emotional beats.
I think there are 4 female fronted acts in these selections. I'm not sure this is mine though.
Pretty sure there are five.
All the impressions are just a bit too vague. Half of them rely on inside information relating to what 425 has already heard of the artist, so it doesn't really give me much to go on. Some will make more sense retrospectively, but trying to apply them to 18 different bands (almost a third of which I know very little about, and less than a third that I would say I'm deeply familiar with) is challenging.
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Also, I haven't kept up with what best practices are for impressions: Do people like it when the host confirms guesses as correct or incorrect, or is it better to leave it a mystery?
Yes, confirm as we go!
And you can start by confirming that I am not in these first six impressions.
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Songs of this particular type can struggle to be memorable to me, but these songs caught my interest right off the bat.
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Any impression expressing doubts about the vocals is liable to be mine.
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To the people who think these are too vague and aren't happy about it: Can you give me an example of the type of impression you would want to see? I get this comment every time I do impressions, and I think it's that I genuinely don't know what people want.
I mean, I could get really specific and say something like "the guitar solo at the 5-minute mark is my favorite part," but I sort of feel like that defeats the purpose.
Also, I haven't kept up with what best practices are for impressions: Do people like it when the host confirms guesses as correct or incorrect, or is it better to leave it a mystery?
Yes, confirm as we go!
And you can start by confirming that I am not in these first six impressions.
Correct.
Impressions #1, 2, 3 & 6 could potentially apply to King Crimson. They’re a bit too vague (which is fine).
#3 is King Crimson.
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For the record I have no problem with your first impressions. It's fine they are a little vague, you don't want to give the game away.
The whole point is that it is just your first impressions. You could just write "This sucks" and it would be a valid first impression for what Reap and Wolfking sent you.
I wouldn't worry and overthink too much. Someone's always gonna grumble, especially with this crowd :lol
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Crowd = Tim.
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Hmmmm, I may not be in this first six, but if I am, it could be any of these except for one:
They clearly have their own distinct sound, but not sure I like the vocals enough for them to stand out within this genre.
Songs of this particular type can struggle to be memorable to me, but these songs caught my interest right off the bat.
This is definitely the best foot forward of a band that I’ve had mixed feelings about. Not sure it'll be enough.
This has the sound I sort of expect to hear submitted by this person, but with a proggy slant I quite like.
I like this singer a lot. Her performance hits all the right emotional beats.
Much more sedate and melody-focused than I remembered this artist being, which is tentatively a good thing.
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I'll make one clarification on this one:
Songs of this particular type can struggle to be memorable to me, but these songs caught my interest right off the bat.
"This particular type" is deliberately somewhat vague, but it's not referring to a touchy-feely sort of distinction. The "type" is something that everyone would recognize and agree is a distinct type of song.
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Okay then, time to edit my post! :)
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is mine one of these six :neverusethis:
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To the people who think these are too vague and aren't happy about it: Can you give me an example of the type of impression you would want to see? I get this comment every time I do impressions, and I think it's that I genuinely don't know what people want.
I wouldn't say I'm not happy about it, I just don't think it makes for an effective guessing game like hangman does. It just serves to whet the appetite, which is perfectly fine.
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(https://i.imgflip.com/6spsjx.jpg)
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To the people who think these are too vague and aren't happy about it: Can you give me an example of the type of impression you would want to see? I get this comment every time I do impressions, and I think it's that I genuinely don't know what people want.
Your Impressions are just fine. No worries, man.
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Glad to hear it. :tup
Here's second first impressions:
I have no idea what to make of this at this point. Something strange yet interesting about it.
Not feeling the emotional connection I think I’m supposed to with this artist. I guess we’ll see if that changes.
An everything-including-the-kitchen-sink song! I admire the ambition; subsequent listens will tell how well I like the execution…
This is a sound I really like—definitely within my comfort zone—and my first impression of the songwriting is positive.
Interesting chill-ish sound, but I'm not connecting with the songs yet. Hopefully they'll be growers.
I just don't think this band's sound is likely to be for me.
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is mine one of these six :neverusethis:
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I hope it's not this one....
I just don't think this band's sound is likely to be for me.[/i]
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I can rule out the 'chill' one.
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This is a sound I really like—definitely within my comfort zone—and my first impression of the songwriting is positive?
Or,
This has the sound I sort of expect to hear submitted by this person, but with a proggy slant I quite like?
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Is mine “chill?”
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This has the sound I sort of expect to hear submitted by this person, but with a proggy slant I quite like?
This is you.
Everyone else who has guessed on this batch is wrong. Intentionally left Cyril until the third.
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:rollin :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :rollin
have a lolavarium for old times' sake
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Is this me?
This is a sound I really like—definitely within my comfort zone—and my first impression of the songwriting is positive.
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:rollin :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :rollin
have a lolavarium for old times' sake
:lol
Is this me?
This is a sound I really like—definitely within my comfort zone—and my first impression of the songwriting is positive.
Yes, it is!
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So I'm hoping mine is this one...
I like this singer a lot. Her performance hits all the right emotional beats.
...But I'm worried it's this one...
Interesting chill-ish sound, but I'm not connecting with the songs yet. Hopefully they'll be growers.
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Good news!
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Has my first impression been posted yet? I feel like it hasn't.
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An everything-including-the-kitchen-sink song! I admire the ambition; subsequent listens will tell how well I like the execution…
This could be me. But this is a Dream Theater forum so I can imagine there are a lot of Kitchen Sink songs in these roulettes.
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Interesting chill-ish sound, but I'm not connecting with the songs yet. Hopefully they'll be growers.
For some reason, this struck me as mine.
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Has my first impression been posted yet? I feel like it hasn't.
It has.
An everything-including-the-kitchen-sink song! I admire the ambition; subsequent listens will tell how well I like the execution…
This could be me. But this is a Dream Theater forum so I can imagine there are a lot of Kitchen Sink songs in these roulettes.
This is you!
Interesting chill-ish sound, but I'm not connecting with the songs yet. Hopefully they'll be growers.
For some reason, this struck me as mine.
Whatever the reason was, you are correct.
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Good news!
Well, that's a relief. Kind of antsy to hear what you think about everything else about those tracks (and possibly the opinions of other participants as well), but given that I'm in group E, I imagine that could still be a week out.
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:rollin :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :rollin
have a lolavarium for old times' sake
a lolavarium? :lol
wtf Cyril :lol (or Parama for old time’s sake :neverusethis:)
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So are we still getting results this weekend, even though we haven't had third first impressions yet? :)
Also, for future submissions, are you OK with lyrics not in English?
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Also, for future submissions, are you OK with lyrics not in English?
Haha, years ago that would have been a brilliant way to get around iffy lyrics, since he apparently pays more attention to them than certainly I do. Online text translation is ludicrously easy to do now though.
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Also, for future submissions, are you OK with lyrics not in English?
Haha, years ago that would have been a brilliant way to get around iffy lyrics, since he apparently pays more attention to them than certainly I do. Online text translation is ludicrously easy to do now though.
Sometimes those translations aren't so great though.
I pay lots of attention to lyrics, but most of the time I can still enjoy songs with bad lyrics if I like the music enough.
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Yeah, but you can usually at least get the gist of the song.
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So are we still getting results this weekend, even though we haven't had third first impressions yet? :)
Also, for future submissions, are you OK with lyrics not in English?
Yeah, sorry about the slight delay, I've had some unexpected work obligations come up! I would say at least half of the results will come tomorrow and the rest by Tuesday (hopefully Monday).
I'll post third first impressions shortly.
Lyrics not in English are fine by me!
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Here's the last set of impressions! First results tonight.
One of these songs is more upbeat than the other two, and I like it best so far.
Not much to say on first listen except that this feels like solid prog metal. It'll take time to see if it's more than that.
I failed to connect with this artist years ago after liking a few songs, but now I can’t think why because I’m hearing everything I initially liked about them.
I don’t quite know what to make of this one. Some good melodies, but some of the sonic elements are off-putting.
This is a comfortable sound for me, and the songs make a strong impression right off the bat.
Just a lot of good progginess here.
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I don’t quite know what to make of this one. Some good melodies, but some of the sonic elements are off-putting.
I'm wondering if this is CHVRCHES.
I failed to connect with this artist years ago after liking a few songs, but now I can’t think why because I’m hearing everything I initially liked about them.
I'm hoping this is Toto.
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This is a comfortable sound for me, and the songs make a strong impression right off the bat.
Deftones? ;D
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one of these six is mine?
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One of them is yours, Cyril.
Litho and Sacul's guesses are all wrong.
You'll find out about some of them soon; I'll have results for three of the pools up in the next few hours. These will be Pool D (King/Stadler/Vmadera), Pool F (Cyril/romdrums/TAC) and Pool A (Lethean/Sacul/seneca).
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I failed to connect with this artist years ago after liking a few songs, but now I can’t think why because I’m hearing everything I initially liked about them.
By process of elimination this has to be CHVRCHES then right?
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Yep.
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:corn
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Okay, here's the first batch of results for round 1. As I mentioned, I'm going to post the results for three pools tonight. Hopefully, I'll be able to finish the other pools tomorrow, but we'll see how things go.
I've decided the way I'm going to do this is to give some thoughts about each submission without saying how I ranked it, then have a section at the end of each pool describing my ranking and some of the reasoning for it. For that reason, you should read nothing into the order in which I post the writeups. It's just going to be in alphabetical order by the submitter's username. The order of the pools is dictated by the order in which I received the final submission for each.
The outcomes here are probably going to be disappointing for some people. The very structure of this roulette is such that 1/3 of people are going to be happy with their result, 1/3 are going to be unhappy, and 1/3 are going to both wish it was better and be glad it wasn't worse. So I'll say at the outset that there was a lot of music I liked here. I genuinely got something out of each and every submission. But the task I set myself was to be somewhat ruthless. No escape hatch of "oh, yes, he got a 9, but you get a 7.5, so that's not so bad!" Each pool, there's a 3, a 2 and a 1. So here's where half of you landed in the first round.
Pool D:
kingshmegland: Mile Marker Zero - The Architect / 2020 / Propaganda
Impression: This has the sound I sort of expect to hear submitted by this person, but with a proggy slant I quite like.
As I mentioned in the impression, this has some of the trappings of what I see as kingshmegcore. But there’s also a proggy side to the approach, which I like. Artists with this kind of hard-rock, almost alt-rock sound, can be hit or miss with me, but these guys are a definite hit. They have a lot of interesting melodies, and enough twists and turns in the music to keep things interesting throughout. A lot of good instrumentation, too, that I didn't notice on first listen, but picked up on more and more.
The three songs here go well together. There’s a cohesive sound here with some variation between the songs. I think Propaganda has become my favorite of the three due to the epic chorus. But all three songs are really enjoyable and each has its own highlights. I've found myself several times this week singing something from one or another of these.
Stadler: Concrete Blonde - Joey / Little Wing / Lullabye
Impression: Interesting chill-ish sound, but I'm not connecting with the songs yet. Hopefully they'll be growers.
Yeah, my first impression of these songs wasn't overwhelmingly positive. I’d say they have proved to be growers at least to a certain point. I like Joey pretty well. The vocal melodies on that one are quite compelling. Similar situation with Lullabye—really good melodies. Little Wing is still less memorable to me.
I think what’s holding me back here is that I don’t find the instrumental element of their music that compelling. It usually does the work it needs to do to serve the vocal parts, but there’s not anything that jumps out at me as particularly impressive. The overall sounds works for me, but there’s not as much above and beyond creating a sound that complements the vocal parts. I feel like this definitely could hit home if I resonated a little more with the mood they’re trying to create, but it’s not quite on the mark for me.
The singer is certainly talented, and her voice is really well-suited to this style of music and the emotional tone of the songs.
Vmadera00: The Cyberiam - In SaN1tY / The Moral Landscape
Impression: They clearly have their own distinct sound, but not sure I like the vocals enough for them to stand out within this genre.
This is very solid prog rock. It’s definitely a band that seems to have carved out its own sound rather than producing generic-sounding prog. Both songs have a lot of interesting basslines, which is always nice to hear. My favorite part is probably the series of transitions near the end of The Moral Landscape’s instrumental section.
I mentioned the vocals in my first impression as not particularly standing out. I still think that’s true of the singer himself. I have nothing against him; he does solid work, but he doesn’t get me enthused, either. The vocal melodies, on the other hand, are pretty good, and grew on me with time. There are some memorable ones in both songs, espeically In SaN1tY. That’s probably still my favorite of the two, although it’s a close call. The Moral Landscape has a very strong chorus.
Pool D Decision:
There are things I liked quite well on all three submissions. However, Concrete Blonde didn’t quite resonate with me as well as I could have hoped, particularly on the instrumental side. Although I liked two out of three songs pretty well, I wasn’t left particularly invested in the band. So Stadler will finish third.
That leaves the choice between The Cyberiam and Mile Marker Zero. If I made this choice after the first round, I certainly would have placed Mile Marker Zero first. Those songs made a very strong initial impression. But the songs from The Cyberiam grew on me to the point where this is a difficult choice. I really could have gone either way. Since both these submissions were three songs from the same album, I ended up asking myself which album I’m more motivated to listen to based on what I’ve heard, and my answer remains Mile Marker Zero.
kingshmegland/Mile Marker Zero: 3 points
Vmadera00/The Cyberiam: 2 points
Stadler/Concrete Blonde: 1 point
Pool F:
Cyril: CHVRCHES - Leave a Trace / Science/Visions / How Not to Drown
Impression: I failed to connect with this artist years ago after liking a few songs, but now I can’t think why because I’m hearing everything I initially liked about them.
This roulette explicitly permits a form of cheating, which is looking at songs I’ve loved in the past but where I haven’t looked into the artists enough to ban them. This is very much in that vein.
The actual story of me and CHVRCHES is that Cyril sent me a couple of songs several years ago, and I really liked those songs. Then I listened to an album a couple of times and just didn’t really connect with it. Hard to say exactly why, but I didn’t listen to this artist again since then.
Not sure exactly what happened then, because once again, I’m finding myself really liking their material. There’s a sense of melody on these songs that I really enjoy, and the sound falls exactly into that category of synth pop that works for me. Leave a Trace is the best entry here in this regard, with a really nice, memorable chorus. But I also like How Not to Drown. The quiet end of this one with the male vocals is really appealing.
Science/Visions comes closest to a side of synthpop that doesn’t appeal to me—the more “pulsing,” percussive beat isn’t my favorite. But there’s enough I like on the vocal side to where I quite enjoy this one, too.
romdrums: Toto - Better World / Jake to the Bone
Impression: Just a lot of good progginess here.
I like the sound of these songs. There’s sort of free-wheeling progginess to them with pieces of traditional song structures that assert themselves from time to time. Better World is the better song, and here I particularly like the second half, which features a proggy and epic instrumental section that leads well into the final chorus. It definitely has the feeling of combining pop rock and prog, which is a good combination in my book.
Jake to the Bone is an enjoyable song from the perspective of instrumental theatrics, though it doesn’t quite have the epic sound of Better World. It's one of those almost over-the-top instruments that I can often have a lot of fun with, but doesn't have the deep emotional impact that other songs do.
TAC: Lost Domain - Silent Cry / Rise of Isolash
Impressions: This is a sound I really like—definitely within my comfort zone—and my first impression of the songwriting is positive.
Stylistically, this is a type of music that I’m very apt to enjoy. Love prog metal, love epic choruses, love female vocals. These songs deliver that, and with songwriting that I like pretty well.
If anyone is wondering what type of use of harsh vocals is most likely to work for me, Silent Cry is a great example. It’s mainly clean vocals, with the harsh vocals used to emphasize particularly intense moments in the music. Definitely adds something to the song, in my opinion. And it’s a very good track!
Rise of Isolash is a more challenging song to wrap my head around. Where Silent Cry is a fairly straightforward piece, this one has a lot of twists and turns. I feel like I still haven't fully digested it, but I've listened to it enough to know that I like a lot about it. There are a lot of strong riffs and really good vocal sections. The main thing that holds it back a little bit for me is that it feels designed to be epic, with a lot of sections that sound like build up, and some intermediate payoffs, like the "Step into the darkness" chorus. But it doesn't have the sort of climactic moment or section that I would hope for in a song with some of these hallmarks. Some kind of high note or epic guitar solo would take this song to a higher level. That said, there's still much to enjoy here.
Pool F Decision:
Cheating paid off this round for Cyril. CHVRCHES is the submission here that I enjoyed most and that most increases my motivation to listen to a full album. So it gets 1st place.
The tougher call is over who places second. This is probably the strongest pool this round. At the very least, it's very likely to be the one with my favorite third-place submission. It's hard to put any of these in last place, considering how much I enjoyed them. But in the end, I'm going to give second place to Lost Domain. I really like what this group is doing on these two songs, and I feel like Rise of Isolash is still revealing itself to me. Toto gets third, but not because I think romdrums did anything particularly wrong in deciding what to send. I had a good time with both those songs, and I'm much more interested in investigating Toto than I was before. Just tough competition this time.
Cyril/CHVRCHES: 3 points
TAC/Lost Domain: 2 points
romdrums/Toto: 1 point
Pool A:
Lethean: Katatonia - Evidence / Lacquer / Neon Epitaph
Impression: Not feeling the emotional connection I think I’m supposed to with this artist. I guess we’ll see if that changes.
So, my experience with this band, having heard probably something like 10-15 songs, is that I think they’re extremely capable songwriters who capture a particular mood and write really memorable vocal melodies.
The obstacle has always been that the mood does not really connect with me. I mean, I recognize the emotion they are going for. It just doesn’t resonate with or affirm anything deep inside me. Lethean mentioned in his message to me that many people experience Katatonia’s music on a really deep emotional level as both sad and uplifting, but I’ve never really felt that.
So, did these songs change that impression? Evidence is probably the closest I’ve come to resonating with them. The long refrain at the end is really good and does make me feel something. All three songs really are quite good, and they’ve probably on the whole moved me closer to listening to more from this band. But I don’t think my impression has fundamentally shifted.
Of the three songs, Evidence is definitely my favorite because of the refrain I already mentioned. Neon Epitaph is my least favorite due to just not being as memorable to me, and Lacquer is in the middle. The “road to the grave is straight as an arrow” part is really memorable.
I feel a little bad for continuing to do this to Lethean, but I think where I still am with Katatonia is that I'm conflicted. There's a lot that is genuinely good here and there are things I really like, but it hasn't opened up for me on that deeper level. I could see them ending up as a band I listen to occasionally, like Opeth, but I find it hard to see myself falling in love with them.
Sacul: Deftones - Swerve City / Entombed / Pompeji
Impression: I just don't think this band's sound is likely to be for me.
This… actually feels similar to Katatonia in some ways. Not exactly, but it’s another instance of prog-inflected metal that focuses a lot on atmosphere, much of which is typically pretty downcast. AND it's someone sending me a band that I know is really important to them, but that might not resonate fully with me me.
Entombed and Pompeji are impressive songs. Entombed has a powerful, memorable chorus, and some interesting synth work, which combined make it my favorite of the three. Pompeji has some good softer verses, and a good melody for the contrasting heavy part.
Pompeji does engage more in incorporating abrasive-sounding elements into the music, like harsh distortion of the vocals and weird electronic noises. Not particularly a fan of that stuff, so I'm sort of left torn two ways on that song. Some things I like a lot and some I don't.. And I don’t really find Swerve City to be especially memorable. It's a solid piece of music, but I find it hard to remember it when I'm not actually listening.
This is obviously a very talented artist, and I like some of the things they're doing. But the full picture of these three songs is not something that resonates with me as much as Sacul would probably like it to. The more depressive sound and especially the distorted stuff on Pompeji just takes it a little outside my wheelhouse.
senecadawg2: The Killers - West Hills / Runaway Horses / In the Car Outside
Impression: One of these songs is more upbeat than the other two, and I like it best so far.
The first thing to say about these songs is that I’m really impressed with how well-done they are. They were clearly going for a particular atmosphere on these, and they absolutely nailed it. There’s a lot of emotion in all three of these.
The limiting factor here is that this is definitely in the category of music that is bleak in a way that makes it difficult for me to listen to it very much. There’s a feeling of desolation in a song like West Hills that is really well-done, but just not something I’m often going to want to experience. The lyrics and samples contribute to this. I’m not especially comfortable with lyrics that deal explicitly with drug use in the way West Hills does, and the story about a horse’s death that is told at the beginning of Runaway Horses just feels gratuitous, especially given the narrator’s detachment.
In the Car Outside gets away from this more than the other two, being a somewhat more upbeat love song (albeit a somewhat off-kilter one). I think it might actually be the least well-done song of the three, but it’s certainly the one I liked the best.
This is the hardest type of submission to talk about, because I think very highly of the songs here. But at least two or three are just not really the sort of music I’m going to fall in love with.
Pool A Decision:
It’s kind of funny that these three submissions all ended up together. All three are definitely feeling out my boundaries on dark, depressing music (which I don’t mind people doing). And all three probably end up falling into the category of music I am impressed by in certain ways and can enjoy in a particular mood or with a particular focus, but am unlikely to seek out very often.
So, who wins and who loses? Every pool has to have one winner and one loser.
Last place is going to go to Deftones. They had one song I quite liked in Entombed. I was up and down on Pompeji, liking some aspects and not others, and the third song didn't make a strong impression. On the whole, I think I just wasn't as impressed by these songs as I was by the best songs from the other two artists. Entombed is pretty good, but it was probably my #4 song out of this pool, with the top three coming from the other two artists.
Katatonia is probably the artist out of these that I’m closest to devoting more time to, but I don’t think that’s owing only to these songs. When I think of what I like about them, I still think about My Twin at least as much as I do Evidence. On the other hand, The Killers had my favorite song of this pool with In the Car Outside, and my third favorite in West Hills (Evidence was second). I came away really impressed with the artistry of those songs. So The Killers get first place and Katatonia take second.
All three artists are ones that I’m glad to have heard, but not likely to be ones I’ll fall in love with. They often do a very good job of producing a certain emotion or certain atmosphere, but they’re just not emotions I want to feel most of the time.
senecadawg2/The Killers: 3 points
Lethean/Katatonia: 2 points
Sacul/Deftones: 1 point
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i... think the only chvrches song i sent you before was the mother we share (their best song) but i'm not shocked that leave a trace was your fave of these three as it's easily the closest to that one :lol
anyways i cheated this round so i can send you some... riskier, most likely, stuff in the next two rounds :corn
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Just did a fact check and it turns out you're right. I think because most of the artists on that EP had more than one song I just assumed there was another that just wasn't as memorable to me.
But yeah, the good news for TAC and romdrums is that I doubt you're pursuing the safest path to preserving a lead.
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Pool A:
Lethean: Katatonia - Evidence / Lacquer / Neon Epitaph
Impression: Not feeling the emotional connection I think I’m supposed to with this artist. I guess we’ll see if that changes.
So, my experience with this band, having heard probably something like 10-15 songs, is that I think they’re extremely capable songwriters who capture a particular mood and write really memorable vocal melodies.
The obstacle has always been that the mood does not really connect with me. I mean, I recognize the emotion they are going for. It just doesn’t resonate with or affirm anything deep inside me. Lethean mentioned in his message to me that many people experience Katatonia’s music on a really deep emotional level as both sad and uplifting, but I’ve never really felt that.
I don't know about "many." I mean I hope so, relatively speaking in the small realm that Katatonia resides in. But I believe I actually mentioned that *one* person described it to me that way, and it resonated with me because that's how I feel it too. It was what I was hoping for you, but it's not surprising it didn't turn out that way and certainly you aren't "supposed" to feel any way other than you do. I wasn't trying to suggest how it should affect you, but rather just trying to convey that Katatonia isn't necessarily depressing to everyone all the time, which is something I was concerned about given the OP (and past roulettes too).
So, did these songs change that impression? Evidence is probably the closest I’ve come to resonating with them. The long refrain at the end is really good and does make me feel something. All three songs really are quite good, and they’ve probably on the whole moved me closer to listening to more from this band. But I don’t think my impression has fundamentally shifted.
Of the three songs, Evidence is definitely my favorite because of the refrain I already mentioned. Neon Epitaph is my least favorite due to just not being as memorable to me, and Lacquer is in the middle. The “road to the grave is straight as an arrow” part is really memorable.
Yes it is.
I feel a little bad for continuing to do this to Lethean, but I think where I still am with Katatonia is that I'm conflicted. There's a lot that is genuinely good here and there are things I really like, but it hasn't opened up for me on that deeper level. I could see them ending up as a band I listen to occasionally, like Opeth, but I find it hard to see myself falling in love with them.
No need to feel bad - I can live with that. Listening occasionally is better than not at all. Plus, if you do another roulette and they're still not banned, well, that just gives me something to look forward to. ;) Seriously though - maybe one day it'll happen for you (it wasn't immediate for me at all), maybe it won't, but I enjoyed sending it regardless.
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Wow, this has reminded me how a tough grouping can send you out, even if you send good shit.
Romdrums, you had it tough there. From reading these results it looks like Romdrums would've won this round if he'd been in Pool A instead? Tough break.
Also, I'm pretty sure you covered this but sad music=fail right? That's what I'm getting from Pool A right? :rollin
Sacul, that's a great selection of Deftones songs, sad to see them bomb in this round.
I might have to give CHVRCHES a go again. I got sent them in my first roulette, by Cyril I think, and the song was Leave a Trace, and I really liked it! Might spin those three songs now, see what I think.
Looking forward to the next batch :corn
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I nice way to wake up today!!
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Hah, I admire the tenacity of brute-forcing Katatonia upon the host, I didn't realize Lethean had already sent them to 425 in a previous roulette. Maybe roulette v. 94 in 2081 will finally see them receive their rightful victorious crown!
Also, I'm pretty sure you covered this but sad music=fail right? That's what I'm getting from Pool A right? :rollin
Reading all these I have a lengthy and growing playlist in my head if I ever want to intentionally make myself exit early. :lol Depressing music constitutes a lot of my favorite music, but I doubt it would be 425's. Hey, maybe that should be a roulette, see who can score the lowest, or maybe have it as a secret agenda sent to certain participants, that they win by losing, yet appearing to be playing along normally.
Sacul, that's a great selection of Deftones songs, sad to see them bomb in this round.
I'd have sent an entirely different batch of Deftones songs if I'd submitted them, but I don't think they would have fared any better. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Sacul, that's a great selection of Deftones songs, sad to see them bomb in this round.
I'd have sent an entirely different batch of Deftones songs if I'd submitted them, but I don't think they would have fared any better. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I mean, they wouldn't have been my first choices, but still a great selection nonetheless. I may have come close to sending Swerve City I guess.
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Hah, I admire the tenacity of brute-forcing Katatonia upon the host, I didn't realize Lethean had already sent them to 425 in a previous roulette. Maybe roulette v. 94 in 2081 will finally see them receive their rightful victorious crown!
"If at first you don't succeed..." :)
I sent him Lethean the first time and if I recall correctly it got an "OK" score.
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I can see what you mean about the vocals for The Cyberiam. They're an interesting band but I guess the vocals could clash with the style.
I have a band in mind for next round, I'll revisit their stuff before sending though :)
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I like The Cyberiam a lot and they were great at ProgPower. That was a great choice.
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I can see what you mean about the vocals for The Cyberiam. They're an interesting band but I guess the vocals could clash with the style.
I have a band in mind for next round, I'll revisit their stuff before sending though :)
Yeah, I wouldn't say it's a big deal, though. It's just one aspect that wasn't bad, but I felt could have been better. Still came pretty close to winning.
Wow, this has reminded me how a tough grouping can send you out, even if you send good shit.
Romdrums, you had it tough there. From reading these results it looks like Romdrums would've won this round if he'd been in Pool A instead? Tough break.
Romdrums would likely have won Pool A, yes.
Also, I'm pretty sure you covered this but sad music=fail right? That's what I'm getting from Pool A right? :rollin
Sad music doesn't equal fail, some sad music definitely equals win, but I continue to struggle to convey the difference. Maybe I'll just give a non-exhaustive list of sad music that I really like that don't raise these issues:
Blind Guardian - And Then There Was Silence
Nightwish - Ghost Love Score
Seventh Wonder - One Last Goodbye
Dream Theater - Vacant
Coldplay - Fix You, Up in Flames
A lot of songs from Evergrey—e.g., A Silent Arc
To me these songs have a really different quality from sad songs from, like, Porcupine Tree or what I've heard from Radiohead or the first two Killers songs from this round. Honestly, from a lot of what some of us categorize as Zantera/Sacul music (no offense). Like, I could listen to Seventh Wonder's One Last Goodbye and Porcupine Tree's Heartattack in a Layby and both be struck by a strong sense of sadness, but it's a very different type of sadness. To my emotions and my mind, the sadness of One Last Goodbye belongs in some sense to romantic or epic tragedy. It's like the sadness of Les Misérables or Antigone. And the sadness of Heartattack in a Layby belongs to naturalistic literature, like Joyce's "The Dead" or Eliot's "The Lovesong of J. Alfred Prufrock." They're in different universes to me, and I really resonate with the former while being to some degree repelled by the latter.
Again, I'm afraid I can't do more than translate it into literary terms or try to describe the emotion, but here's my short way of encapsulating it: There's a feeling of sadness where the emphasis is on the meaning of that which was lost, and there's a feeling of sadness where there's a sense of "yeah, such is life... life is just like this, the world is just like this, often or always."
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I don't know about "many." I mean I hope so, relatively speaking in the small realm that Katatonia resides in. But I believe I actually mentioned that *one* person described it to me that way, and it resonated with me because that's how I feel it too. It was what I was hoping for you, but it's not surprising it didn't turn out that way and certainly you aren't "supposed" to feel any way other than you do. I wasn't trying to suggest how it should affect you, but rather just trying to convey that Katatonia isn't necessarily depressing to everyone all the time, which is something I was concerned about given the OP (and past roulettes too).
Thanks for the correction; I misread what you said to me and accidentally distorted it.
And I didn't take it as a command that I should feel a certain way, but I did take it as something that some people love about them. Because of how many fans they have, it's at least clear to me that they really connect with some people on a deeper level than how they do with me.
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I like The Cyberiam a lot and they were great at ProgPower. That was a great choice.
I saw them in Progstock in 2018. Thy were fantastic live.
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It seems to me that at least part of the difference in sad music 425 likes vs. doesn't might be temporary mourning vs. apathetic nihilism.
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Romdrums, you had it tough there. From reading these results it looks like Romdrums would've won this round if he'd been in Pool A instead? Tough break.
I did say that my group should be called Group F'ed. ;) ;D
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I like The Cyberiam a lot and they were great at ProgPower. That was a great choice.
I saw them in Progstock in 2018. Thy were fantastic live.
They were a last minute replacement at PP and I think it turned out really well. I haven't watched any videos to prove myself wrong, but the singer seemed pretty dead on.
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Sacul, that's a great selection of Deftones songs, sad to see them bomb in this round.
I'd have sent an entirely different batch of Deftones songs if I'd submitted them, but I don't think they would have fared any better. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I mean, they wouldn't have been my first choices, but still a great selection nonetheless. I may have come close to sending Swerve City I guess.
Yeah I tried to go with a variety of stuff that might be more up 425's alley but it was pointless :lol. I'll go with something completely different on the next round tho.
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But when are the next lot of results?
:corn :corn :corn
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Sent for Round 2!
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Pretty bold. I'd have wait to checked his mood on the other half of the songs too first. But hey, some of us are playing to win. ;)
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hey TAC ain't got nothing on me, so
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hey TAC ain't got nothing on me, so
Right. It's not like I have sent for the rounds I haven't even qualified for yet. ;D
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I'm honestly a bit surprised I don't also have two Cyril EPs sitting in my inbox.
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It seems to me that at least part of the difference in sad music 425 likes vs. doesn't might be temporary mourning vs. apathetic nihilism.
I think this is getting closer, yes, although I wouldn't go so far as to put everything on the side I enjoy less in the category of "apathetic nihilism" (that's not my impression of Katatonia, for example).
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making EPs takes dedicated effort, if i'm not making it to the top 6 i'm not gonna bother making an EP
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I'm going to add results for one additional pool tonight. The other two will need to wait tomorrow. I've done writeups on what I like and don't like about all the submissions in each of those pools, but I'm having a hard time making the decisions. I'll need to listen again, but I'm too tired tonight to trust my impressions.
Pool E:
LithoJazzoSphere: Autumn - Altitude / Old Fuel
Impression: I like this singer a lot. Her performance hits all the right emotional beats.
I now fear that I’m going to send a brand new set of confusing mixed signals about my preferences in sad music by saying I really liked this submission, but… I really liked this submission. It starts with the singer, whose voice I think is just wonderful. She delivers an emotional performance that is just very well-suited to both songs.
And the songs are good. The chorus of Altitude just works so well, and the full song is a nice tapestry of guitar riffs and piano melodies. There aren’t a lot of instrumental theatrics from this band, but what is present really works. Old Fuel wasn’t as immediate for me, and is still probably my less preferred of the two, but I really like the softer side it brings out of the singer, and the way the song is structured to gradually lead into the repeating “And so it starts, the endgame” refrain, which has just stayed with me very well. I also think the guitar solo is effective.
These two songs are both really well put together and quite resonant with me emotionally. Very strong submission.
soupytwist: Seven Spires - This God Is Dead / Bury You
Impression: An everything including the kitchen sink song! I admire the ambition; subsequent listens will tell how well I like the execution…
No one cheated this round quite like Cyril, but sneaking Roy Khan in deserves a good second place on the cheat-o-meter :biggrin
Honestly, not sure Roy is moving the needle much on this one. It’s always good to hear his voice, but it’s not enough of a featured performance to be the make-or-break on This God Is Dead, let alone the whole submission.
My impression was that This God Is Dead is a kitchen-sink song, and it certainly is the most complex single composition anyone sent this round. There’s so much going on here. I mean, just vocally, we have choirs, we have clean female vocals, we have Khan, we have growls, we have spoken word, everything. Instrumentally, there’s variation enough to accompany these vocal shifts, from quiet, contemplative passages to intense heavy parts to big symphonic sections.
So how did all of it come across to me? It’s definitely one that I feel like I don’t fully have a grip on, kind of like Lost Domain’s Rise of Isolash. But my impression of it is consistently improving. I really like this sort of ambition, and there’s material that’s really promising to me, particularly in the second half, where the music definitely takes more of an epic turn. I feel like it’s working to pay off some of the buildup from early in the song.
The harsh vocal sections are on the borderline of what is going to work for me, but I think they’re on the right side of that border. Honestly, part of what makes it fringe is the fact that the music underneath those parts is not especially melodic, which I think makes them somewhat weaker than they could have been. But they work in context as short spurts of intensity.
I’ve talked a lot about one of the songs, not much about the other. Bury You kind of snuck up on me to become a song I really enjoy. There’s just a lot of big, epic melody, and that’s a good way to win me over so long as there’s some substance, which there certainly is here. The singer gets to show off a different side of her voice here, and she sounds great, especially on the last chorus.
Tomislav95: Dead Letter Circus - The Mile / Here We Divide / This is the Warning
Impression: Not much to say on first listen except that this feels like solid prog metal. It'll take time to see if it's more than that.
This band has a pretty good sound. They seem to exist in the Aussie side of prog metal, with the shiny production and melodic approach, but with a varied musical style that doesn’t really inhabit the djent territory. This is a style of music that I’m happy to listen to and likely to enjoy.
But I have to say that I’ve listened to this particular set of songs several times and not found as much to grab onto as I would hope. This is the Warning is my favorite of the three, particularly because of the climactic finale. All the songs have parts that I can point to as good when I’m listening to them, but when I’ve finished, almost all of it is gone for me.
It’s possible that this music still needs more time to open up for me, and that I’m not being fair to it by judging it on a few listens in a roulette setting. But at this point I have to conclude that while this is fairly enjoyable to listen to, it’s not something that strikes me as particularly interesting.
Pool E Decision:
I think it’s pretty clear from my writeups that Dead Letter Circus is third. I tried with these songs, and I’m willing to try more with this artist because I like their general sound, but right now there’s just not much that I’m taking away and finding I really like. When the other two submissions have a lot that I enjoy, that leads to a fairly clear decision as to third.
First and second is a tougher choice here, probably the closest call I've had to make so far. I feel like I’m still fully figuring out one of the Seven Spires songs, but I like a lot of what I hear on that one and I really like their other song. I also like both Autumn songs quite a bit. After a lot of consideration, I’ve decided to go with Autumn as a very close winner. I feel like This God Is Dead just does not quite come together as cohesively as I'd like an epic to do, and there are still sections of that song that are not as compelling for me as others. Though I like the song, and really like Bury You, there's enough of a question mark there for me to choose the two very well-composed, emotionally resonant songs from Autumn.
LithoJazzoSphere/Autumn: 3 points
soupytwist/Seven Spires: 2 points
Tomislav95/Dead Letter Circus: 1 point
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Congrats Lizzo!
As you've probably worked out 'This God is Dead' is a major part of the albums concept (in fact all 3 of their albums tell they same story) so the different voices are the various characters.
I'm going in a completely different direction with round 2.
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Congrats Lizzo!
:lol
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Congrats Lizzo!
:lol
I Benifer'ed their name without realising. :rollin
I apologize Litho!
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Congrats Lizzo!
Ugh, there goes the secrecy of my round two submission. I was just about to hit send on "About Damn Time", "Grrrls", "Juice", and "Rumors (feat. Cardi B.)" for my victory lap. That set was gonna slay.
Anyway, I think the rules state that we're supposed to talk shit about the other submissions, but screw that, I think pool E might have been my favorite pool of entries, possibly other than F. I've been wanting to get more into Seven Spires, and this is definitely helping. I'd heard a couple of DLC tunes before, but haven't checked out an album. Now I'm encouraged to do so. I already noticed there is an acoustic version of "Here We Divide", which is awesome.
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I get where you're coming from Lizzo. I think I actually discovered more music l liked in the first roulette I participated in than the first one I hosted :lol
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Congrats Lizzo!
Ugh, there goes the secrecy of my round two submission. I was just about to hit send on "About Damn Time", "Grrrls", "Juice", and "Rumors (feat. Cardi B.)" for my victory lap. That set was gonna slay.
;D
Although that may beat my second round submission to be honest!
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Awesome! I'm glad to win the round and get to know your tastes a little better in the process, although it has thrown a wrench in what I was planning on sending the next two rounds. (I was going to send you some really bleak stuff :lol)
I'll send shortly
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:corn
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I feel like I have zero idea what will resonate for round two (that's a me problem, though, since I don't know a good number of these bands well enough to draw conclusions).
I'm going with my gut.
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I'm going to bed in about an hour and a half, how likely is it that results get posted before then dude? :corn
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10% chance. I have more work to do and am not likely going to be able to turn to this for another 3ish hours.
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No worries dude. I'll look forward to waking up to results then :tup
I'm feeling quietly confident. Fuck knows why!?
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Pool B:
ReaperKK: Ola Englund - Balegmah / Sun and the Moon
Impression: Music of this particular type can often struggle to interest me, but these songs caught my interest right off the bat.
The “specific type of song” was instrumentals. They can be hit-or-miss with me, depending on whether I’m able to really grab onto something in the music and get into the rest of the song. These two songs achieved that, and as a result, I really enjoyed them both.
That’s particularly true of Sun and the Moon, which has a strong main motif that hooks well into the other sections of the song. This one has good dynamics, with a really nice quiet section in the middle interspersed with some heavier riffing. The riffs at about the 5 and a half minute mark are my favorite part, and I love how they stay in place as other parts of the song begin to shift.
Part of what I like about these songs is that they don’t feel like instrumental prog metal with a gimmick or like an attempt to spotlight a particular player’s shredding ability. These feel like taking the prog metal sound, and rendering it into an instrumental context. There’s a lot of emphasis on melody and riffing, solos that add to the song rather than overpowering it, and a focus on good composition. Really enjoyable stuff.
twosuitsluke: King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - Robot Stop / Magenta Mountain / Slow Jam 1
Impression: I have no idea what to make of this at this point. Something strange yet interesting about it.
I’m surprised no one guessed this impression, because this is some weird stuff! Definitely not up my usual alley, but there’s something fascinating about it all. I don’t even know how to categorize something like Robot Stop. It’s not a style I would normally listen to, I think the vocals are almost comically rough, but there is undeniably something really, really catchy about it.
Then Magenta Mountain is very different but similar in that it is hard to categorize, far outside the style of music I listen to, and undeniably fascinating. There’s something to the pattern of the vocal melodies here that is unusual but really interesting.
Slow Jam 1 is the least interesting to me of the three. It’s a solid little jam, and there’s nothing off-putting about it, but it doesn’t quite have the attention-grabbing quality of the others.
I should have expected this just based on what I’ve heard out int he world about this artist, but I was still sort of surprised by how strange this music is, and yet how interesting I find it. Not sure that this translates to me being in love with everything I hear, but they certainly have my attention.
wolfking: Angel Dust - Bleed / Cross of Hatred / Freedom Awaits
Impression: This is a comfortable sound for me, and the songs make a strong impression right off the bat.
So, I’m definitely a big fan of this overall sound: melodic, epic power metal. And these are good songs in that style. I like a lot of the vocal melodies on all three songs, especially Cross of Hatred. And I tend to enjoy mid-tempo power metal even more than the super-fast variety. There’s a sense of swagger in their rhythms.
I think the main downside is that I’m not in love with the singer. These power metal singers who use a lot of grit (Russell Allen, Ripper Owens) are somewhat hit-or-miss for me. I think often they end up making the music sound too consistently aggressive and not dynamic enough. And I think that is somewhat of an issue on the first two songs. Freedom Awaits strikes a better balance in the vocal style.
This isn’t a dealbreaker for me with this band, which I’m definitely interested in, but it is a downside. On the whole, though, this was a strong batch of songs that I certainly enjoy.
Pool B Decision:
This is the toughest decision of the round. I had multiple pools where it was difficult to choose between the top two or between the bottom two, but here I like all three submissions almost equally and have a hard time even choosing first or last place. I think I’ve given serious consideration to every possible first-second-third order. This is one of the stronger pools this round, with all the submissions having a substantial draw for me.
After an additional listen through to all three submissions, one finally emerged as the winner, by a very narrow margin: the Ola Englund submission. These songs were just such finely composed instrumental prog metal that I had to give them the edge.
Looking at the other two, we have Angel Dust, which is right up my alley musically, very well done power metal with great melodies, and King Gizzard, which is far outside my comfort zone but also quite captivating to me in some strange way. I wish I didn’t have to put either of these in third, but in the end I have to give second to Angel Dust and third to King Gizzard.
As with Toto before, that’s not a placement that reflects a negative assessment of the King Gizzard music. I think it’s mainly the result of a few small quibbles that add up to place it slightly behind Angel Dust. First, the weak link of both these artists for me is the vocals, but the Angel Dust vocalist is singing some of the time in a way I do enjoy on all three songs, while the KG&tLW vocal performances fit the music but only elevate it on Magenta Mountain. Second, I connected pretty well with all three Angel Dust songs, while Slow Jam 1 did not connect with me as much as the other KG&tLW songs and was my least favorite out of all 8 songs in this pool. Finally, while I like the song, I don’t like the production on Robot Stop, and I don’t like the noisy and abrasive ending. None of these quibbles ruin my experience with KG&tLW, but when I’m really trying to split hairs, those are things that stand out to me.
No worries dude. I'll look forward to waking up to results then :tup
I'm feeling quietly confident. Fuck knows why!?
After this post, I feel like I’m crushing a dream a little bit here. All I can say is, if you were confident I was going to like the music, you were right. If you were confident about winning the round, well, sorry.
ReaperKK/Ola Englund: 3 points
wolfking/Angel Dust: 2 points
twosuitsluke/King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard: 1 point
Pool C:
Buddyhunter1: VOLA - Applause of a Distant Crowd / Smartfriend / Inside Your Fur
Impression: Much more sedate and melody-focused than I remembered this artist being, which is tentatively a good thing.
I’ve heard VOLA here and there before, and I know they’re very celebrated among the prog bands to debut in the last few years, but I’ve never had a clear overall impression of them.
I’m definitely coming away from this with a stronger sense of what people like about them. They have a strong sense of melody that comes out at times on all three of these songs, and that’s when I like them best. Applause of a Distant Crowd is just full of melody, both in the vocals and in instrumentals. Smartfriend starts out in a way that isn’t especially interesting to me, but when it opens up into the big melodic vocal section and subsequent instrumental, that’s quite good.
Inside Your Fur is my favorite of the three songs. It has some fairly compelling melodies and a strong chord progression that carries us through the whole thing. It’s the one I connect with most on an emotional level out of the three. There’s a beauty and a tenderness to these melodies that works for me.
Elite: King Crimson - Fallen Angel / Epitaph (both live in Mexico, 2017)
Impression: This is definitely the best foot forward of a band that I’ve had mixed feelings about. Not sure it'll be enough.
Of the biggest names in classic prog, King Crimson is the one I’ve never much gotten into. I’ve heard some of the big songs, and enjoyed some of them. But I’ve never gotten engrossed in anything, and found that was a little off-putting to reduce my motivation to spend more time with them.
Fallen Angel is probably my favorite song I’ve heard from them. Some strong vocal melodies here, and I like the saxophone. Some sense of scale and scope near the ending, too, which is nice. However, there’s nothing here that connects with me on a deeper, emotional level, unfortunately.
Epitaph is a very well-done piece of music. I’m nowhere near being able to fully break it down, but it’s clear to me that the whole thing is very deliberately and artfully composed. This live performance brings home some of that with how precisely some parts seem to be timed, even onstage (for example, in the chorus: “Confusion… will be my epitaph”).
But yeah, Epitaph is also quite bleak. Even if I couldn’t make out the lyrics, this would come across clearly in the music. It’s that mood that’s somewhat alienating to me and that’s probably going to keep me from wanting to listen to this a whole lot. Fallen Angel, I think, is in the same direction, but not as bleak as Epitaph.
HOF: Sweet Billy Pilgrim - Kalypso / We Are the Bright Carvers
Impression: I don’t quite know what to make of this one. Some good melodies, but some of the sonic elements are off-putting.
Honestly, my initial impression of these songs was a little rough. They do a fair amount of inserting weird electronic sounds into the music, which is really something I do not like and almost never think is justified.
That said, the music itself has opened up to me a fair amount. There’s a strong sense of melody here and some real beauty in these songs, especially Kalypso. We Are the Bright Carvers is more focused on catchiness, and definitely delivers that.
On the other hand, I have a hard time nailing down the structure of these songs, particularly We Are the Bright Carvers and my tentative sense is that at least that one overstays its welcome a bit. A little too much repetition without quite enough variety.
It’s hard to assess this mix of positives and negatives, but I guess where I am at this point is that I find some aspects of their music quite compelling, but there are also obstacles to me getting into it earnestly.
Pool C Decision:
VOLA will come away as the winner of this pool. It’s not my favorite of the pool winners, but it has two of my three favorite songs of this pool in Inside Your Fur and Applause of a Distant Crowd, plus a third song that has aspects I like a lot in Smartfriend. That’s going to be enough to beat out the other two.
Sweet Billy Pilgrim comes in second. I really want to be able to like these songs, Kalypso especially, more than I actually end up liking them. Kalypso is a beautiful song, and We Are the Bright Carvers has some strong elements, but the structures and especially the glitchy sounds detract from the experience. Still, that emotional connection is good enough for second place.
The King Crimson songs are obviously very well-done, and to elaborate on why they ended up in last place here I’m going to take the opportunity to explain a little more about my approach to ranking songs in this roulette. I think in past roulettes, my scores have incorporated too heavy of a dose of how impressive or well-done I think a particular song is. I think I was tempted to do that in order to seem more objective in my grading and to avoid giving a low score to music that I think is actually really well-done. This time, I’m pushing myself to be more selfish in ranking submissions, and focusing more on rewarding submissions that I personally enjoy than on rewarding those that I think are the most brilliantly written or performed. By the latter standard, I couldn’t put King Crimson last in this pool; I might have to put it first. But by the former standard, it does go in last because one of the songs, Epitaph, doesn’t resonate with me in a pleasing way from an emotional perspective. And that’s the standard I’m trying to use here. It isn't a total disconnect: I do enjoy Fallen Angel a fair bit! But it's the band of these three that I connect with the least and remain the least interested in.
Buddyhunter1/VOLA: 3 points
HOF/Sweet Billy Pilgrim: 2 points
Elite/King Crimson: 1 point
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No worries dude. I'll look forward to waking up to results then :tup
I'm feeling quietly confident. Fuck knows why!?
After this post, I feel like I’m crushing a dream a little bit here. All I can say is, if you were confident I was going to like the music, you were right. If you were confident about winning the round, well, sorry.
Hey dude, absolutely no worries. This ain't my first rodeo and I know what I'm getting myself into sending bands like King Gizz. I'd love to be able to play it safer in these things (and maybe I'll try next round) but I just want people to experience some of the great bands out there.
If I've given you enough of a glimpse into The Gizzverse to want to check out more then my job is done. They have a vast backcatalogue, but don't be intimidated. They are one of the most exciting bands out there at the moment in my opinion.
I'll send for round 2 later. Congrats to Reap and Wolfy, ya wee bastards.
Out of interest, would you be able to rank all the submissions in one list? I want to be frustrated knowing I came last in my pool but that I could've got more points in another pool :lol
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my prediction for the next round: 425 likes two of them fine enough but doesn't like the third much at all. the third one happens to be my favorite of the three
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Out of interest, would you be able to rank all the submissions in one list? I want to be frustrated knowing I came last in my pool but that I could've got more points in another pool :lol
Song of the round would be interesting to see too.
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When I first heard Angel Dust, I personally hated the singers voice. Massive grower and now I love it.
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Hey hey, better than expected! I knew Smartfriend would be your least favorite of the three, but I figured you had to get at least one song that showcases their heavier side, and I'm glad you at least somewhat liked it! Patting myself on the back for sending Inside Your Fur - that was kind of a impulse decision that ended up paying off.
Will need to mull over what to send for this next round. I'll send something either today or tomorrow.
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When I first heard Angel Dust, I personally hated the singers voice. Massive grower and now I love it.
It was kind of similar for me. I didn't hate his voice but thought it was more of a negative than positive. It definitely grew on me. I wouldn't say I love it, but I think it fits perfectly for the music.
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Out of interest, would you be able to rank all the submissions in one list? I want to be frustrated knowing I came last in my pool but that I could've got more points in another pool :lol
Song of the round would be interesting to see too.
Yeah, I can try to put something like these things together. The overall ranking wouldn't be exact because I haven't put much thought into how they compare to each other, but I can do an approximate one. And I'll probably list a handful of top songs.
When I first heard Angel Dust, I personally hated the singers voice. Massive grower and now I love it.
It was kind of similar for me. I didn't hate his voice but thought it was more of a negative than positive. It definitely grew on me. I wouldn't say I love it, but I think it fits perfectly for the music.
Huh, interesting that this seems to be a common reaction!
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I sent for round two. I might not only win my group, but I might win one or two others to boot! :) :) :)
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Well, I was confident on what I was going to submit but forgot to check the Google list of individual banned songs. The 3 songs I had in mind to send are the only 3 songs banned from this artist :lol Back to the drawing board.
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Sent for Round Two.
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Well, I was confident on what I was going to submit but forgot to check the Google list of individual banned songs. The 3 songs I had in mind to send are the only 3 songs banned from this artist :lol Back to the drawing board.
Speaking of individually banned songs, how many Voyager songs does 425 need to be sent before they make the official banned list? :)
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It’s hard to assess this mix of positives and negatives, but I guess where I am at this point is that I find some aspects of their music quite compelling, but there are also obstacles to me getting into it earnestly.
I think this is a fair assessment of Sweet Billy Pilgrim, at least from what I’ve sent you. They do not always make the most immediate music, which is part of why I find them so rewarding. Some of the reward for me is in the details of the production (some of which was off putting for you). All those little sounds and instrumentations are really well orchestrated IMO, and sometimes you don’t realize what you are hearing is a child’s toy piano or something weird like that. But in terms of song structures themselves, they don’t always follow an ordinary path and sometimes the hooks don’t come in until mid way through the song or at the end of the song. They are an interesting group with a lot to explore though. I tried to give you one of their more direct songs with Bright Carvers, which is a little long for what it is (though it is introducing an album concept as well), but I’ve had it on repeat since it came out so the length doesn’t bother me. Super catchy.
Sending something totally different next.
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Well, I was confident on what I was going to submit but forgot to check the Google list of individual banned songs. The 3 songs I had in mind to send are the only 3 songs banned from this artist :lol Back to the drawing board.
Speaking of individually banned songs, how many Voyager songs does 425 need to be sent before they make the official banned list? :)
The rule for the banned artist list in this one is simple: Am I committed to exploring all or a large portion of this artist's work? If yes, they're banned, if not, they aren't. Voyager is one of those artists where I've heard a lot, generally liked it, but not been motivated to say "yeah, I'm going to buy several of their albums." They could be seen as a cheat in a certain sense, since it's very likely I'm going to think they're at least pretty good, but there's a risk as well since they've never blown me away.
The reason why there are so many Voyager songs on there is because I was sent two albums from them in the first round of my album roulette. I think one of them won its matchup and the other lost.
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What if you're sent a band that you really dislike? Would they become banned eventually or would you leave it open until you've potentially heard their catalog? Just curious.
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I honestly hadn't considered that. Now very tempted to just ban Pain of Salvation so I don't have to hear them again.
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I honestly hadn't considered that. Now very tempted to just ban Pain of Salvation so I don't have to hear them again.
Probably a wise move. :tup :corn
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I honestly hadn't considered that. Now very tempted to just ban Pain of Salvation so I don't have to hear them again.
Pain of Salvation is the very band I was thinking about using as an example, as they were certainly on my banned list for that reason. :)
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You know, what, yeah. Pain of Salvation is added to the banned list. I've heard enough and don't need more.
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So...Hangman later today? ;D
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That depends on whether people send by later today! Pool F is good to go, but no other pool is all-in yet.
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That depends on whether people send by later today! Pool F is good to go, but no other pool is all-in yet.
Pool F rules!! :lol
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the F is for Fast :hat
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Sent
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the F is for Fast :hat
We don't F around. :riskybiz:
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I've sent mine for pool A. :)
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Just sent mine.
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C is for Csent
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D's(j)ent.
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D's(j)ent.
TesseracT is already banned, so you'll have to resend.
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Sent
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would you believe that these two gifs completely encapsulate my round 2 submission
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Cyril sent The Arsonists and one of the songs is My First Friend.
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yes, exactly
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I'm glad you liked the Ola submission! I'm on vacation so I will s ne round two tomorrow. Forgive me if I missed this but is the submission for round two the same? Meaning a few songs from an artist?
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I'm glad you liked the Ola submission! I'm on vacation so I will s ne round two tomorrow. Forgive me if I missed this but is the submission for round two the same? Meaning a few songs from an artist?
Yes, round 2 is the same format.
While we waiting for everyone to submit, I wanted to respond to some posts from earlier:
No worries dude. I'll look forward to waking up to results then :tup
I'm feeling quietly confident. Fuck knows why!?
After this post, I feel like I’m crushing a dream a little bit here. All I can say is, if you were confident I was going to like the music, you were right. If you were confident about winning the round, well, sorry.
Hey dude, absolutely no worries. This ain't my first rodeo and I know what I'm getting myself into sending bands like King Gizz. I'd love to be able to play it safer in these things (and maybe I'll try next round) but I just want people to experience some of the great bands out there.
If I've given you enough of a glimpse into The Gizzverse to want to check out more then my job is done. They have a vast backcatalogue, but don't be intimidated. They are one of the most exciting bands out there at the moment in my opinion.
I definitely want to check out more. I can already tell that there will probably be some things that I like and some that I don't, but there's a special sort of spark on what you sent me.
Hey hey, better than expected! I knew Smartfriend would be your least favorite of the three, but I figured you had to get at least one song that showcases their heavier side, and I'm glad you at least somewhat liked it! Patting myself on the back for sending Inside Your Fur - that was kind of a impulse decision that ended up paying off.
That's a good impulse! That song really worked. As for the heavier side, it might come together for me if I listen to them more. I listened to Inmazes a couple of times several years ago, and while it wasn't an album I loved, the songs started to make more sense to me the more I listened to them.
It’s hard to assess this mix of positives and negatives, but I guess where I am at this point is that I find some aspects of their music quite compelling, but there are also obstacles to me getting into it earnestly.
I think this is a fair assessment of Sweet Billy Pilgrim, at least from what I’ve sent you. They do not always make the most immediate music, which is part of why I find them so rewarding. Some of the reward for me is in the details of the production (some of which was off putting for you). All those little sounds and instrumentations are really well orchestrated IMO, and sometimes you don’t realize what you are hearing is a child’s toy piano or something weird like that. But in terms of song structures themselves, they don’t always follow an ordinary path and sometimes the hooks don’t come in until mid way through the song or at the end of the song. They are an interesting group with a lot to explore though. I tried to give you one of their more direct songs with Bright Carvers, which is a little long for what it is (though it is introducing an album concept as well), but I’ve had it on repeat since it came out so the length doesn’t bother me. Super catchy.
Sending something totally different next.
I definitely see the appeal, and feel some of it myself! At the very least, I'm definitely happy I heard them.
And okay, okay, here's the promised attempt at ranking every submission together and giving a list of some favorite songs. I want to reiterate that this is a very rough ranking, without giving nearly as much thought as I did to the rankings within each pool:
1. Autumn (LithoJazzoSphere)
2. CHVRCHES (Cyril)
3. Lost Domain (TAC)
4. Mile Marker Zero (kingshmegland)
5. Seven Spires (soupytwist)
6. Ola Englund (ReaperKK)
7. Angel Dust (wolfking)
8. King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard (twosuitsluke)
9. Toto (romdrums)
10. The Cyberiam (Vmadera00)
11. VOLA (Buddyhunter1)
12. Sweet Billy Pilgrim (HOF)
13. The Killers (senecadawg2)
14. Katatonia (Lethean)
15. Concrete Blonde (Stadler)
16. King Crimson (Elite)
17. Dead Letter Circus (Tomislav95)
18. Deftones (Sacul)
Now for something like top 10 songs (this is a very loose list in alphabetical order):
Angel Dust - Freedom Awaits
Autumn - Altitude
Autumn - Old Fuel
CHVRCHES - Leave a Trace
King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - Magenta Mountain
Lost Domain - Silent Cry
Mile Marker Zero - Propaganda
Ola Englund - Sun and the Moon
Seven Spires - Bury You
VOLA - Inside Your Fur
If you made me choose a single song of the round, it would come down to Bury You, Leave a Trace and Old Fuel, and I think I'd go with Leave a Trace. But this was a round with a lot of very good songs, not one with a standout that was way above the pack.
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1. Autumn (LithoJazzoSphere)
:hat
So fascinating how it shook out though. It has to be utterly flummoxing for anyone trying to follow along. Musically their and Katatonia's later periods are quite similar, yet Katatonia was in the bottom third. Autumn's lyrics are much less bleak, which surely helps, and Jonas might be more of an idiosyncratic singer to get into than Marjan. (Fun trivia, you can connect the two of them with one-two degrees of separation in at least three different ways.) It almost makes me want to try and select the most Autumn-esque songs Katatonia has done and see if I can get them to not be last place in a round. :angel:
If you made me choose a single song of the round, it would come down to Bury You, Leave a Trace and Old Fuel, and I think I'd go with Leave a Trace. But this was a round with a lot of very good songs, not one with a standout that was way above the pack.
Rather curiously, you said in the initial results that you preferred "Altitude", but now you have "Old Fuel" as a top three song in the round rather than it? I suppose it grew on you? That buildup into the last couple minutes of "Altitude" might take back over in another dozen plays or two though. I don't know if I'd have sent it 13-14 years ago when I discovered them. It did seem to fit your criteria better, so maybe I would have, but I definitely preferred other songs of theirs at first, it just has real staying power for me now.
Unrelated, but this does trigger my overanalysis mode. It seems there are are least three major things to consider. A: Submitting the right band. B: Submitting the right songs. Particularly if you listen to a batch of them right after sending, then you second guess yourself, "man, should I have sent these instead?" C: Submitting in the right batch of entries. Obviously there's little you can control about your competition's choices, so worrying about it much doesn't really help. D: Putting the songs in the right order? I suppose this might be more of a concern for the EP round from what I've gleaned, if you're fortunate enough to make it that far. A and C could combine in the third and sixth rounds if you had an insurmountable lead, then you could send something wacky with minimal consequence.
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Yeah, I figured me liking Autumn and disliking most of the other really sad stuff would be confusing to people. Vocals made a big, big difference. If you asked me to rank favorite vocalists of the round, Autumn would win that, too, while Renkse is neutral for me (not a benefit or a drawback). I also found the Autumn songs to have more of an epic feel, which really appealed to me.
I forgot that I said I preferred Altitude over Old Fuel! So what happened is that I did the writeup after listening for the third time, at which time I preferred Altitude, then I listened for a fourth time to decide between Autumn and Seven Spires, at which time I probably liked them equally, and then the final couple of minutes of Old Fuel stayed in my head for the next couple of days, so that when I set myself the task of choosing one song from the whole round, it's the one that came to mind.
I think A, B and C are the main factors. D is not something I'm evaluating until the EPs, and if someone sent their songs in a wonky order, I would try to leave that out of consideration. Although I am listening to the songs in order, so just for my sanity it's probably better not to do that.
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That's a shame, will send round 2 either tonight or tomorrow morning :)
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LithoJazzoSphere, how can I reach the stage of acceptance and moving on from that appalling list with your overanalyzing making me think about it again and making me a :sadpanda:
I may need to listen to Katatonia to cheer myself up... :)
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LithoJazzoSphere, how can I reach the stage of acceptance and moving on from that appalling list with your overanalyzing making me think about it again and making me a :sadpanda:
I may need to listen to Katatonia to cheer myself up... :)
You and me both. But at least they're one of the more popular bands in this sort of community, especially compared to most of the others in round one. They're just not for 425 it seems.
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Unrelated, but this does trigger my overanalysis mode. It seems there are are least three major things to consider. A: Submitting the right band. B: Submitting the right songs. Particularly if you listen to a batch of them right after sending, then you second guess yourself, "man, should I have sent these instead?" C: Submitting in the right batch of entries. Obviously there's little you can control about your competition's choices, so worrying about it much doesn't really help. D: Putting the songs in the right order? I suppose this might be more of a concern for the EP round from what I've gleaned, if you're fortunate enough to make it that far. A and C could combine in the third and sixth rounds if you had an insurmountable lead, then you could send something wacky with minimal consequence.
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E: just send the songs and forget what you sent
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1. Autumn (LithoJazzoSphere)
:hat
So fascinating how it shook out though. It has to be utterly flummoxing for anyone trying to follow along. Musically their and Katatonia's later periods are quite similar, yet Katatonia was in the bottom third. Autumn's lyrics are much less bleak, which surely helps, and Jonas might be more of an idiosyncratic singer to get into than Marjan. (Fun trivia, you can connect the two of them with one-two degrees of separation in at least three different ways.) It almost makes me want to try and select the most Autumn-esque songs Katatonia has done and see if I can get them to not be last place in a round. :angel:
If you made me choose a single song of the round, it would come down to Bury You, Leave a Trace and Old Fuel, and I think I'd go with Leave a Trace. But this was a round with a lot of very good songs, not one with a standout that was way above the pack.
Rather curiously, you said in the initial results that you preferred "Altitude", but now you have "Old Fuel" as a top three song in the round rather than it? I suppose it grew on you? That buildup into the last couple minutes of "Altitude" might take back over in another dozen plays or two though. I don't know if I'd have sent it 13-14 years ago when I discovered them. It did seem to fit your criteria better, so maybe I would have, but I definitely preferred other songs of theirs at first, it just has real staying power for me now.
Unrelated, but this does trigger my overanalysis mode. It seems there are are least three major things to consider. A: Submitting the right band. B: Submitting the right songs. Particularly if you listen to a batch of them right after sending, then you second guess yourself, "man, should I have sent these instead?" C: Submitting in the right batch of entries. Obviously there's little you can control about your competition's choices, so worrying about it much doesn't really help. D: Putting the songs in the right order? I suppose this might be more of a concern for the EP round from what I've gleaned, if you're fortunate enough to make it that far. A and C could combine in the third and sixth rounds if you had an insurmountable lead, then you could send something wacky with minimal consequence.
I hope the overthinking continues the good results for you mate, Jesus! :lol
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Sent for round 2!
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alright elite sent so that means everyone's in, give me the H for H
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Sorry, I forgot to send until now. My submission is in as well, now.
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Ok :)
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T
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I love that I won the round while only placing 13/18 overall. C'mon Sacul and Lethean, what're y'all doing? :lol
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The only thing I could do. :angel:
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Has everyone sent for round 2 yet?
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I love that I won the round while only placing 13/18 overall. C'mon Sacul and Lethean, what're y'all doing? :lol
Yet I came last in my pool whilst placing 8th overall!
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Has everyone sent for round 2 yet?
Everyone is locked in as of last night. Here's the hangmanen, with Cyril's H and a T for TAC. Note that one submission was too long to fit on a single line, so I left an extra space after it for clarity:
___ ______ - _____ _t___ T___ / _______ ______ / _____ ___
Th_ _________ Th___ - _____ _t ___ / __ _____ / ___ Th_t _____ __t
_______h__ ___ - ___h____ ____ /_______ / H__ _h_t_ _____
____t ___ ___ - _________ / _______ / _t__ ____
________ - _____t / _______ _____ ______
____t ____ - H_____ / ______ / _______ ______ __th _______
____ ______ ______t___ - _____t _______ / ______ ___ ______
______ ________ - Th___ ____ Th_ _____ __ H______ ____ __ ____ / ___t ___ Th___ Th__ __t___ __t_ ____ __t __t __ H___ / ___ ______ ____ _____ / _ ___t ______ ____ ____ Th__
___h___ - H____ __tt___ / ___t__th__ / __ ___ _____ __t_
______th - ________ / __t__ Th_ ____
_____ __t____ - _____h___ ____t / _________ / ____t___ ______t
_____ - _______ / __t_h __th__t ____ / _______t___
________ - _________h__t_ / _______ ___ ___ / ______ __ ___h___
Th_ __t____h___ - ____t____ __ Th_ ______ / Th_ ____ __ _____ ____ / Th_ _____ ________ / ______
______ _t_____ - ___ ___ T_ ___h____ / ____ __ __ _____ _ _____t ______ / ____ T_ __
_________ - _________ / ____t__t_ / __ ______
________ __h__t__ - _______ / H_____ / _____
___ ___t______ - _______ / _______ / _____ / ___________
Letter's used: H T
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M
______ ________ - Th___ ____ Th_ _____ __ H______ ____ __ ____ / ___t ___ Th___ Th__ __t___ __t_ ____ __t __t __ H___ / ___ ______ ____ _____ / _ ___t ______ ____ ____ Th__
Just a suggestion: use this format instead. :lol
??: _laren_e _larit_
1: _ill t_ _elie_e
2: ____-T__thed _arti_le S_ashers
3: Th_se _h_ _an_t, _heat
4: The __s_el Tr_th
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Let's have an "E" for this is getting Exciting.
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Let’s have an N for no idea what any of the songs are yet.
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*Edited post*
Thanks, 425!
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give me a J for Jorts McTruckstopperson
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M
______ ________ - Th___ ____ Th_ _____ __ H______ ____ __ ____ / ___t ___ Th___ Th__ __t___ __t_ ____ __t __t __ H___ / ___ ______ ____ _____ / _ ___t ______ ____ ____ Th__
Just a suggestion: use this format instead. :lol
??: _laren_e _larit_
1: _ill t_ _elie_e
2: ____-T__thed _arti_le S_ashers
3: Th_se _h_ _an_t, _heat
4: The __s_el Tr_th
Good idea; I'll do that next time!
I’m pretty sure I sent four songs and not three :)
Fixed!
Here's an M E N for "men" and a J for "Jorts McTruckstopperson," who I imagine probably is a man.
___ __n_e_ - E_e__ _t___ T___ / En__e__ _____e / N__e_ __n
The __ne____e Th_e_ - ___ne _t _e_ / _n E___e / ___ Th_t ____e __t
__n____he_ ___ - M__h___m ____ /_____n_ / He_ _h_te __e__
____t ___ ___ - ___e_____ / Emm____ / _t__ ____
__n_____ - _____t / _____n_ ___e_ __e_m_
___et __n_ - H___e_ / __nn_e / _e____n __n_e_ __th _e___n_
___e _e___n _e____t__n - ___ent _ene___ / _e__n_ ___ ____e_
______ Jenn_n__ - Theme ___m The ___e_ __ H______ ____ __ ____ / __nt ___ Th_n_ Th__ __t___ __t_ __ne __t __t __ H_n_ / __e ______ _een _____ / _ __nt ____n_ __n_ ___e Th__
E__h__n - H_m_n __tte__ / __nte_th__ / _n _n_ ___en N_te
______th - _______e / Ente_ The ____
J____ __te___ - __me_he_e ___et / __n____e_ / _e__t__e __m___t
__e__ - __e__n_ / __t_h __th__t __m_ / _n___m_t__n
________ - __e____enheten / Nee__e_ _n_ __n / _e__m_ __ N__he_e
The _nte___he_e - _e__t__n_ _n The _n_een / The _ne_ _e Ne_e_ _ne_ / The ___n_ _e_____n / ______
___j_n _te_en_ - ___ _e_ T_ M__h___n / M__e Me _n ___e_ _ __nn_t _e___e / ____ T_ __
____n____ - _________ / ____t__te / M_ __m__n
M_n_____ E_h__t__ - _______ / H__n__ / _e___
_e_ M_nt__me__ - ___e__n / ______n / __nn_ / _m__e____n_
Letter's used: H T M E N J
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Sufjan Stevens
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Waylon Jennings
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Waylon Jennings
Stadler
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The Intersphere
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The Pineapple Thief
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??: _laren_e _larit_
1: _ill t_ _elie_e
2: ____-T__thed _arti_le S_ashers
3: Th_se _h_ _an_t, _heat
4: The __s_el Tr_th
Clarence Clarity
1: Will to Believe
2: Buck-Toothed Particle Smashers
3: Those Who Can't, Cheat
4: The Gospel Truth
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How about an S?
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These are all right. Here's that S!
___ __n_e_ - E_e__ St___ T___ / En__ess _____e / N__e_ S_n
The Pineapple Thief - ___ne _t Se_ / _n E___e / ___ Th_t ____e __t
__n___she_ S__ - M_sh___m ____ /_____n_ / He_ _h_te __ess
___st ___ ___ - ___e____s / Emm____ / St__ ____
__n_____ - _____t / _____n_ ___e_ __e_ms
___et __n_ - H___e_ / __nn_e / _es___n __n_es __th _e___ns
___e _e_s_n _e____t__n - S__ent _enes_s / _e__n_ ___ ____es
Stadler: Waylon Jennings - Theme ___m The ___es __ H______ ____ __ ___s / __nt ___ Th_n_ Th_s __t___ __ts __ne __t __t __ H_n_ / __e _____s _een _____ / _ __nt ____n_ __n_ ___e Th_s
E__h__n - H_m_n __tte__ / __nte_th__ / _n _n_ ___en N_te
______th - _______e / Ente_ The ____
J____ __te___ - S_me_he_e ___et / S_n____e_ / _e__t__e __m___t
__e__ - __e__n_ / __t_h __th__t __ms / _n___m_t__n
S_______ - __e____enheten / Nee__es _n_ __n / _e__ms __ N__he_e
The Intersphere - _e__t__ns _n The _nseen / The _nes _e Ne_e_ _ne_ / The ___n_ _e__s__n / ______
Sufjan Stevens - S__ _es T_ M__h___n / M__e Me _n ___e_ _ __nn_t _e__se / ____ T_ __
____n____ - ____ss_s / ___st__te / M_ __m__n
M_n_____ E_h_st__ - __s____ / H__n_s / _e__s
_es M_nt__me__ - ___e__n / ______n / S_nn_ / _m__ess__ns
Letter's used: H T M E N J S
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_es M_nt__me__ - ___e__n / ______n / S_nn_ / _m__ess__ns
Are the last two songs Sunny & Impressions?
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Pure Reason Revolution
-Silent Genesis
-Beyond Our Bodies
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Soilwork
-Overgivenheten
-Needles And Kin
-Dreams Of Nowhere
Wolfking!
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Pure Reason Revolution
-Silent Genesis
-Beyond Our Bodies
Buddy
Tomi sent The Pineapple Thief
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Pure Reason Revolution
-Silent Genesis
-Beyond Our Bodies
Buddy
Pal
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Pure Reason Revolution
-Silent Genesis
-Beyond Our Bodies
Buddy
Pal
I'm not your pal, guy
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Pure Reason Revolution
-Silent Genesis
-Beyond Our Bodies
Buddy
Pal
I'm not your pal, guy
Wait..we're not pals??
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Pure Reason Revolution
-Silent Genesis
-Beyond Our Bodies
Buddy
Pal
I'm not your pal, guy
Wait..we're not pals??
We're beyond pals, we're fellow fogeys!
Just couldn't pass up a South Park opportunity
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Oh ok. You caught me off guard. I've actually never seen South Park. ;D
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Oh ok. You caught me off guard.
TAC you're like one of the main pillars that holds DTF up! Plus you're the fogey with the best taste! How could we not be pals!?!?
(https://c.tenor.com/cDOcH7rvJhIAAAAC/not-worthy-waynes-world.gif)
But also...
I've actually never seen South Park. ;D
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Thank you! very kind words. Backatcha!
I have seen a few episodes of King Of The Hill which I thought were hilarious!
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Let's have an A!
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Pure Reason Revolution
-Silent Genesis
-Beyond Our Bodies
Buddy
Tomi sent The Pineapple Thief
PRR is Buddy, but TPT is not Tomi.
All Tim's guesses are correct. Here's the A!
___ __n_e_ - E_e__ St___ T___ / En__ess _____e / Na_e_ S_n
The Pineapple Thief - A__ne at Sea / _n E___e / A__ That ____e __t
__n___she_ S__ - M_sh___m _a__ /__a__n_ / He_ _h_te __ess
___st A__ ___ - ___e____s / Emm____ / Sta_ ____
__n_____ - A____t / _____n_ _a_e_ __eams
___et __n_ - Ha__e_ / __nn_e / _es__an __n_es __th _ea__ns
Buddyhunter1: Pure Reason Revolution - Silent Genesis / Beyond Our Bodies
Stadler: Waylon Jennings - Theme ___m The ___es __ Ha__a__ ____ __ ___s / __nt ___ Th_n_ Th_s __t_a_ __ts __ne __t __t __ Han_ / __e A__a_s _een __a__ / _ A_nt ____n_ __n_ ___e Th_s
E__h__n - H_man __tte__ / __nte_th__ / _n An_ ___en N_te
A__a__th - _______e / Ente_ The ____
Ja___ __te___ - S_me_he_e ___et / S_n____e_ / __eat__e __m___t
__e__ - __e_an_ / _at_h __th__t A_ms / _n___mat__n
wolfking: Soilwork - Overgivenheten / Needles and Kin / Dreams of Nowhere
The Intersphere - _e_at__ns _n The _nseen / The _nes _e Ne_e_ _ne_ / The __an_ _e__s__n / A____a
Sufjan Stevens - Sa_ _es T_ M__h__an / Ma_e Me an ___e_ _ _ann_t _e__se / _a__ T_ __
____na_a_ - ____ss_s / ___st__te / M_ __ma_n
twosuitsluke: Mandroid Echostar - __sa__a / H__n_s / _e__s
Elite: Wes Montgomery - Airegin / Caravan / Sunny (Alternate Take) / Impressions (Live at the Half Note 1965)
Letter's used: H T M E N J S A
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Wes Montgomery
-Airegin
-Caravan
romdrums!
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Artist and songs are right for Wes Montgomery, but it's not rom.
Now that the artist information is revealed, I'm going to add in a couple of parentheticals on the last two songs that I left out of the hangman (one is an alternate take, one is a live version).
Mandroid Echostar sent by Luke is right!
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Elite sent Wes Montgomery!
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:lol
I posted while you were editing into into your last post, and then you edited it out while I was editing my confirmation in! Yes, Mandroid Echostar is there and it's Luke.
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Well, I just modified that post to say that Elite sent Wes Montgomery. :lol
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:lol
Well, you're right about that.
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He certainly is :)
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Echolyn
-On Any Given Nite
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Echolyn
-On Any Given Nite
Dammit dude, was just gonna guess this!
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Dredg - Catch Without Arms.
Tomi sent that then?
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Echolyn
-On Any Given Nite
Dammit dude, was just gonna guess this!
;D
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Waylon Jennings
Stadler
dammit.
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Waylon Jennings
Stadler
dammit.
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Dredg - Catch Without Arms.
Tomi sent that then?
Nope.
But the song guesses are right. Reposting on the new page:
___ __n_e_ - E_e__ St___ T___ / En__ess _____e / Na_e_ S_n
The Pineapple Thief - A__ne at Sea / _n E___e / A__ That ____e __t
__n___she_ S__ - M_sh___m _a__ /__a__n_ / He_ _h_te __ess
___st A__ ___ - ___e____s / Emm____ / Sta_ ____
__n_____ - A____t / _____n_ _a_e_ __eams
___et __n_ - Ha__e_ / __nn_e / _es__an __n_es __th _ea__ns
Buddyhunter1: Pure Reason Revolution - Silent Genesis / Beyond Our Bodies
Stadler: Waylon Jennings - Theme ___m The ___es __ Ha__a__ ____ __ ___s / __nt ___ Th_n_ Th_s __t_a_ __ts __ne __t __t __ Han_ / __e A__a_s _een __a__ / _ A_nt ____n_ __n_ ___e Th_s
Echolyn - H_man __tte__ / __nte_th__ / On Any Given Nite
A__a__th - _______e / Ente_ The ____
Ja___ __te___ - S_me_he_e ___et / S_n____e_ / __eat__e __m___t
dredg - __e_an_ / Catch Without Arms / _n___mat__n
wolfking: Soilwork - Overgivenheten / Needles and Kin / Dreams of Nowhere
The Intersphere - _e_at__ns _n The _nseen / The _nes _e Ne_e_ _ne_ / The __an_ _e__s__n / A____a
Sufjan Stevens - Sa_ _es T_ M__h__an / Ma_e Me an ___e_ _ _ann_t _e__se / _a__ T_ __
____na_a_ - ____ss_s / ___st__te / M_ __ma_n
twosuitsluke: Mandroid Echostar - __sa__a / H__n_s / _e__s
Elite: Wes Montgomery - Airegin / Caravan / Sunny (Alternate Take) / Impressions (Live at the Half Note 1965)
Letter's used: H T M E N J S A
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Kingfisher Sky
-Her White Dress
Litho!
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How about an R?
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Kingfisher Sky
-Her White Dress
Litho!
Correct!
Here's that R!
___ __n_er - E_er_ St_r_ T___ / En__ess __r__e / Na_e_ S_n
The Pineapple Thief - A__ne at Sea / _n E___e / A__ That ____e __t
LithoJazzoSphere: Kingfisher Sky - M_shr__m _a__ /_ra__n_ / Her White Dress
__rst A__ ___ - __re__r_s / Emm____ / Sta_ ____
__n__r__ - A_r__t / _____n_ _a_er _reams
___et __n_ - Har_er / __nn_e / _es__an __n_es __th _ea__ns
Buddyhunter1: Pure Reason Revolution - Silent Genesis / Beyond Our Bodies
Stadler: Waylon Jennings - Theme _r_m The ___es __ Ha__ar_ ____ __ ___s / __nt ___ Th_n_ Th_s __t_a_ __ts __ne __t __t __ Han_ / __e A__a_s _een _ra__ / _ A_nt ____n_ __n_ ___e Th_s
Echolyn - H_man __tter_ / __nterthr_ / On Any Given Nite
A__ar_th - _r_____e / Enter The ____
Ja___ __te___ - S_me_here ___et / S_n____er / _reat_re __m__rt
dredg - _re_an_ / Catch Without Arms / _n__rmat__n
wolfking: Soilwork - Overgivenheten / Needles and Kin / Dreams of Nowhere
The Intersphere - Re_at__ns _n The _nseen / The _nes _e Ne_er _ne_ / The _ran_ _e__s__n / A_r_ra
Sufjan Stevens - Sa_ _es T_ M__h__an / Ma_e Me an ___er _ _ann_t _e__se / _a__ T_ __
__r_na_ar - ____ss_s / _r_str_te / M_ __ma_n
twosuitsluke: Mandroid Echostar - R_sa__a / H__n_s / _e__s
Elite: Wes Montgomery - Airegin / Caravan / Sunny (Alternate Take) / Impressions (Live at the Half Note 1965)
Letter's used: H T M E N J S A R
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Borknagar
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one of the sufjan songs is Make Me An Offer I Cannot Refuse
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Kip Winger
-Every Story Told
-Endless Circle
-Native Son
HOF!
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Kip Winger
-Every Story Told
-Endless Circle
-Native Son
HOF!
All correct except for one word!
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Borknagar
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e7/The_Swedish_Chef.jpg)
If you're implying that lonestar sent it, he's not in this roulette. But the artist is correct.
Other guesses are correct except for the word HOF mentioned...
HOF: Kip Winger - Every Story Told / Endless Circle / Na_e_ Son
The Pineapple Thief - A__ne at Sea / _n E___e / A__ That ____e __t
LithoJazzoSphere: Kingfisher Sky - M_shr__m _a__ /_ra__n_ / Her White Dress
__rst A__ ___ - __re__r_s / Emm____ / Sta_ ____
__n__r__ - A_r__t / _____n_ _a_er _reams
___et __n_ - Har_er / __nn_e / _es__an __n_es __th _ea__ns
Buddyhunter1: Pure Reason Revolution - Silent Genesis / Beyond Our Bodies
Stadler: Waylon Jennings - Theme _r_m The ___es __ Ha__ar_ ____ __ ___s / __nt ___ Th_n_ Th_s __t_a_ __ts __ne __t __t __ Han_ / __e A__a_s _een _ra__ / _ A_nt ____n_ __n_ ___e Th_s
Echolyn - H_man __tter_ / __nterthr_ / On Any Given Nite
A__ar_th - _r_____e / Enter The ____
Ja___ __te___ - S_me_here ___et / S_n____er / _reat_re __m__rt
dredg - _re_an_ / Catch Without Arms / _n__rmat__n
wolfking: Soilwork - Overgivenheten / Needles and Kin / Dreams of Nowhere
The Intersphere - Re_at__ns _n The _nseen / The _nes _e Ne_er _ne_ / The _ran_ _e__s__n / A_r_ra
Sufjan Stevens - Sa_ _es T_ M__h__an / Make Me an Offer I Cannot Refuse / _a__ T_ __
Borknagar - ____ss_s / _r_str_te / M_ __ma_n
twosuitsluke: Mandroid Echostar - R_sa__a / H__n_s / _e__s
Elite: Wes Montgomery - Airegin / Caravan / Sunny (Alternate Take) / Impressions (Live at the Half Note 1965)
Letter's used: H T M E N J S A R
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Borknagar
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e7/The_Swedish_Chef.jpg)
If you're implying that lonestar sent it, he's not in this roulette. But the artist is correct.
That wasn't what I was implying, but...
Haha..A new Lonestar avatar! Bosk, make it happen!!!!!
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First Aid Kit
-Fireworks
-Emmylou
-Stay Gold
Soupy!
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The other two dredg songs are "Ireland" and "Information"
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Sacul sent Sufjan Stevens right?
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Alone at Sea for the Pineapple Thief.
How about an L?
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Mandroid Echostar songs are -
- Rosalia
- Hypnos
- zelos
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I wish I actually sent The pineapple thief or dredg :lol
Ireland and Information
In exile
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The other Kip Winger song is "Naked Son"
Borknagar songs are "Collossus", "Frostrite", and "My Domain"
The other Echolyn songs are "Human Lottery" and "Winterthru"
The Intersphere songs are "Relations in the Unseen", "The Ones We Never Knew", "The Grand Delusion", and "Aurora"
I'm really curious how 425's reactions to Soilwork and Wes Montgomery are going to be. The idea of Soilwork as an extreme proggish metal band wasn't really conceivable a decade or two ago, but with their later era output it certainly is now. As for Wes, if he takes to him, it raises a dilemma. I have a truckload of overlooked jazz I could potentially send (particularly a certain few pet favorites), but it could still be risky.
Dunno if it could potentially bump off something else anyway though, I've had tentative submissions ready to tweak lined up for six rounds since shortly after round one. I even have an idea for 3/4 of an EP already, though until R2 results I'm going to remain nervous as hell about how far I can go. There are facets of 425's taste that seem to remind me of my own, particularly a little over a decade ago, but I'm sure that only goes so far, and his reaction to the next few entries will be quite telling in that regard.
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if 425 likes soilwork and wes montgomery, i will proceed to not change my round 3-6 submissions
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That wasn't what I was implying, but...
Haha..A new Lonestar avatar! Bosk, make it happen!!!!!
:lol
A lot of accurate guesses since I last updated. Here those are, along with the L for "Lethean."
HOF: Kip Winger - Every Story Told / Endless Circle / Naked Son
The Pineapple Thief - Alone at Sea / In Exile / All That ____e __t
LithoJazzoSphere: Kingfisher Sky - M_shr__m _all /_ra__n_ / Her White Dress
soupytwist: First Aid Kit - Fireworks / Emmylou / Stay Gold
__n__r__ - A_r__t / __l__n_ _a_er _reams
__let __n_ - Har_er / __nn_e / Les__an __n_es __th _ea__ns
Buddyhunter1: Pure Reason Revolution - Silent Genesis / Beyond Our Bodies
Stadler: Waylon Jennings - Theme _r_m The ___es __ Ha__ar_ ____ _l ___s / __nt ___ Th_n_ Th_s __tla_ __ts __ne __t __t __ Han_ / __e Al_a_s _een _ra__ / _ A_nt L___n_ L_n_ L__e Th_s
Echolyn - Human Lottery / Winterthru / On Any Given Nite
A__ar_th - _r_l___e / Enter The ____
Ja___ __te___ - S_me_here ___et / S_n_l__er / _reat_re __m__rt
dredg - Ireland / Catch Without Arms / Information
wolfking: Soilwork - Overgivenheten / Needles and Kin / Dreams of Nowhere
The Intersphere - Relations in the Unseen / The Ones We Never Knew / The Grand Delusion / Aurora
Sacul: Sufjan Stevens - Sa_ _es T_ M__h__an / Make Me an Offer I Cannot Refuse / _a__ T_ __
Borknagar - Colossus / Frostrite / My Domain
twosuitsluke: Mandroid Echostar - Rosalia / Hypnos / Zelos
Elite: Wes Montgomery - Airegin / Caravan / Sunny (Alternate Take) / Impressions (Live at the Half Note 1965)
Letter's used: H T M E N J S A R L
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How about a D?
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The remaining Pineapple Thief song is "All That You've Got".
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Echolyn is Kingshmegland
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How about an "I" for "I can't figure out more of these without additional letters".
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Those guesses are correct. Here's the I for "I can't figure out more of these without additional letters" and the D for "Don't you find it strange that it took this long for someone to ask for the D?"
HOF: Kip Winger - Every Story Told / Endless Circle / Naked Son
The Pineapple Thief - Alone at Sea / In Exile / All That You've Got
LithoJazzoSphere: Kingfisher Sky - M_shr__m _all /_ra_in_ / Her White Dress
soupytwist: First Aid Kit - Fireworks / Emmylou / Stay Gold
_in__r__ - Adri_t / __ldin_ _a_er _reams
__let __n_ - Har_er / __nnie / Les_ian __nies _ith _ea__ns
Buddyhunter1: Pure Reason Revolution - Silent Genesis / Beyond Our Bodies
Stadler: Waylon Jennings - Theme _r_m The D__es __ Ha__ard ___d _l ___s / D_nt ___ Thin_ This __tla_ _its D_ne __t __t __ Hand / I_e Al_a_s _een _ra__ / I Ain't Li_in_ L_n_ Li_e This
kingshmegland: Echolyn - Human Lottery / Winterthru / On Any Given Nite
A_darith - _r_l___e / Enter The __id
Ja___ __te__i - S_me_here __iet / S_n_l__er / _reat_re __m__rt
dredg - Ireland / Catch Without Arms / Information
wolfking: Soilwork - Overgivenheten / Needles and Kin / Dreams of Nowhere
The Intersphere - Relations in the Unseen / The Ones We Never Knew / The Grand Delusion / Aurora
Sacul: Sufjan Stevens - Sa_ _es T_ M__h__an / Make Me an Offer I Cannot Refuse / _a__ T_ __
Borknagar - Colossus / Frostrite / My Domain
twosuitsluke: Mandroid Echostar - Rosalia / Hypnos / Zelos
Elite: Wes Montgomery - Airegin / Caravan / Sunny (Alternate Take) / Impressions (Live at the Half Note 1965)
Letter's used: H T M E N J S A R L D I
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give me the Q for Quite an enigma that nobody asked for the D until now, yes
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Lesbian Ponies with Weapons ???
wtf :lol
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Lesbian Ponies with Weapons ???
wtf :lol
That could be Cyril. :lol
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The Waylon songs are:
Theme From The Dukes Of Hazzard (Good Ol' Boys)
Don't You Think This Outlaw Bit's Done Got Out Of Hand
I've Always Been Crazy
I Ain't Living Long Like This
Damn, even Stadler's roulette submissions are wordy and contain parenthesis. :lol
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The Waylon songs are:
Theme From The Dukes Of Hazzard (Good Ol' Boys)
Don't You Think This Outlaw Bit's Done Got Out Of Hand
I've Always Been Crazy
I Ain't Living Long Like This
Damn, even Stadler's roulette submissions are wordy and contain parenthesis. :lol
I tried to find one with a comma, but the song didn't fit ("Lonesome, On'ry and Mean")
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Lesbian Ponies with Weapons ???
wtf :lol
That could be Cyril. :lol
damn what tipped you off :jamaritard:
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Ardarith - Enter the Void
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Kingcrow
-Adrift
-Folding Paper Dreams
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The Waylon songs are:
Theme From The Dukes Of Hazzard (Good Ol' Boys)
Don't You Think This Outlaw Bit's Done Got Out Of Hand
I've Always Been Crazy
I Ain't Living Long Like This
Damn, even Stadler's roulette submissions are wordy and contain parenthesis. :lol
I tried to find one with a comma, but the song didn't fit ("Lonesome, On'ry and Mean")
:lol
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Lesbian Ponies with Weapons ???
wtf :lol
That could be Cyril. :lol
damn what tipped you off :jamaritard:
:lol
The Waylon songs are:
Theme From The Dukes Of Hazzard (Good Ol' Boys)
Don't You Think This Outlaw Bit's Done Got Out Of Hand
I've Always Been Crazy
I Ain't Living Long Like This
Damn, even Stadler's roulette submissions are wordy and contain parenthesis. :lol
Someone should have guessed from the outset who went longer than one line. :lol
Getting close now... Here's the Q (and I do mean "the" Q, as there is exactly one).
HOF: Kip Winger - Every Story Told / Endless Circle / Naked Son
The Pineapple Thief - Alone at Sea / In Exile / All That You've Got
LithoJazzoSphere: Kingfisher Sky - M_shr__m _all /_ra_in_ / Her White Dress
soupytwist: First Aid Kit - Fireworks / Emmylou / Stay Gold
Kingcrow - Adrift / Folding Paper Dreams
Cyril: Vylet Pony - Har_er / __nnie / Lesbian Ponies with Weapons
Buddyhunter1: Pure Reason Revolution - Silent Genesis / Beyond Our Bodies
Stadler: Waylon Jennings - Theme from “The Dukes of Hazzard” (Good Ol’ Boys) / Don’t You Think This Outlaw Bit’s Done Got out of Hand / I’ve Always Been Crazy / I Ain’t Living Long Like This
kingshmegland: Echolyn - Human Lottery / Winterthru / On Any Given Nite
Ardarith - _r_l___e / Enter the Void
ReaperKK: Jakub Zytecki - Somewhere Quiet / Sunflower / Creature Comfort
dredg - Ireland / Catch Without Arms / Information
wolfking: Soilwork - Overgivenheten / Needles and Kin / Dreams of Nowhere
The Intersphere - Relations in the Unseen / The Ones We Never Knew / The Grand Delusion / Aurora
Sacul: Sufjan Stevens - Sa_ _es T_ M__h__an / Make Me an Offer I Cannot Refuse / _a__ T_ __
Borknagar - Colossus / Frostrite / My Domain
twosuitsluke: Mandroid Echostar - Rosalia / Hypnos / Zelos
Elite: Wes Montgomery - Airegin / Caravan / Sunny (Alternate Take) / Impressions (Live at the Half Note 1965)
Letter's used: H T M E N J S A R L D I Q
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Jakub Zytecki
-Somewhere Quiet
-Sunflower
-Creature Comfort
Reaper
Vylet Pony
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Yep.
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Harper
Bonnie
Say Yes To Michigan
Back To Oz
First Impressions? ;D
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Not going to be able to put impressions together until tomorrow night.
For now, who sent things? Reorganizing the list...
LithoJazzoSphere: Kingfisher Sky - M_shr__m _all /_ra_in_ / Her White Dress
HOF: Kip Winger - Every Story Told / Endless Circle / Naked Son
soupytwist: First Aid Kit - Fireworks / Emmylou / Stay Gold
Cyril: Vylet Pony - Harper / Bonnie / Lesbian Ponies with Weapons
Buddyhunter1: Pure Reason Revolution - Silent Genesis / Beyond Our Bodies
Elite: Wes Montgomery - Airegin / Caravan / Sunny (Alternate Take) / Impressions (Live at the Half Note 1965)
twosuitsluke: Mandroid Echostar - Rosalia / Hypnos / Zelos
kingshmegland: Echolyn - Human Lottery / Winterthru / On Any Given Nite
wolfking: Soilwork - Overgivenheten / Needles and Kin / Dreams of Nowhere
Sacul: Sufjan Stevens - Say Yes! to M!ch!gan / Make Me an Offer I Cannot Refuse / Back to Oz
ReaperKK: Jakub Zytecki - Somewhere Quiet / Sunflower / Creature Comfort
Stadler: Waylon Jennings - Theme from “The Dukes of Hazzard” (Good Ol’ Boys) / Don’t You Think This Outlaw Bit’s Done Got out of Hand / I’ve Always Been Crazy / I Ain’t Living Long Like This
Ardarith - _r_l___e / Enter the Void
dredg - Ireland / Catch Without Arms / Information
The Intersphere - Relations in the Unseen / The Ones We Never Knew / The Grand Delusion / Aurora
Borknagar - Colossus / Frostrite / My Domain
The Pineapple Thief - Alone at Sea / In Exile / All That You've Got
Kingcrow - Adrift / Folding Paper Dreams
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The Intersphere is Romdrums
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The other Ardarith song is "Prologue".
TAC sent Ardarith.
Lethean sent Borknagar.
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The other Ardarith song is "Prologue".
TAC sent Ardarith.
:metal
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I have no idea who sent the rest. Kingcrow is awesome though.
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Being in the same group as someone who sent Winger is good for me, right? :neverusethis:
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Being in the same group as someone who sent Winger is good for me, right? :neverusethis:
I mean, it ain't fair. :lol
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I've been listening to some of the entries, and a couple of the Kip Winger ones are surprisingly good (plus another from that album that auto-played but wasn't in the roulette).
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I've been listening to some of the entries, and a couple of the Kip Winger ones are surprisingly good (plus another from that album that auto-played but wasn't in the roulette).
Kip Winger's solo albums are generally excellent (sorry, Tim :biggrin:)
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I've been listening to some of the entries, and a couple of the Kip Winger ones are surprisingly good (plus another from that album that auto-played but wasn't in the roulette).
Kip Winger's solo albums are generally excellent (sorry, Tim :biggrin:)
:metal
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What if I were to tell you that there just might be a Kip Winger sighting in my Top 25 Concerts thread? :lol
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What if I were to tell you that there just might be a Kip Winger sighting in my Top 25 Concerts thread? :lol
Playing with Alice Cooper doesn't really count mate, nice try. :lol :biggrin:
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What if I were to tell you that there just might be a Kip Winger sighting in my Top 25 Concerts thread? :lol
Playing with Alice Cooper doesn't really count mate, nice try. :lol :biggrin:
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(https://c.tenor.com/JLIhYJnHEo4AAAAC/smart-you.gif)
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:lol
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Vmaderadredg - Ireland / Catch Without Arms / Information
RomdrumsThe Intersphere - Relations in the Unseen / The Ones We Never Knew / The Grand Delusion / Aurora
LetheanBorknagar - Colossus / Frostrite / My Domain
TomiThe Pineapple Thief - Alone at Sea / In Exile / All That You've Got
LetheanKingcrow - Adrift / Folding Paper Dreams
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Lethean submitted two bands? I want to learn this trick.
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Lethean submitted two bands? I want to learn this trick.
My plan is to bat .500 :lol
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I already guessed Borknagar for Lethean anyway, so no internet bucks for that one if it's right. :p
I'm guessing 425 got really busy, hopefully listening to our music, but sometimes life gets in the way too.
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I already guessed Borknagar for Lethean anyway, so no internet bucks for that one if it's right. :p
Oh yes, I see that you did. I saw that post and I guess I stopped at TAC sent Ardarith. :lol
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Sorry, it's been a busy week. I'm listening to the music; I just haven't gotten around to updating the thread today.
TAC gets points for: The Intersphere is romdrums
Litho gets points for: TAC is Ardarith, Lethean is Borknagar
These are wrong: Pineapple Thief is Tomislav, dredg is Vmadera, Kingcrow is Lethean
LithoJazzoSphere: Kingfisher Sky - M_shr__m _all /_ra_in_ / Her White Dress
HOF: Kip Winger - Every Story Told / Endless Circle / Naked Son
soupytwist: First Aid Kit - Fireworks / Emmylou / Stay Gold
Cyril: Vylet Pony - Harper / Bonnie / Lesbian Ponies with Weapons
Buddyhunter1: Pure Reason Revolution - Silent Genesis / Beyond Our Bodies
Elite: Wes Montgomery - Airegin / Caravan / Sunny (Alternate Take) / Impressions (Live at the Half Note 1965)
twosuitsluke: Mandroid Echostar - Rosalia / Hypnos / Zelos
kingshmegland: Echolyn - Human Lottery / Winterthru / On Any Given Nite
wolfking: Soilwork - Overgivenheten / Needles and Kin / Dreams of Nowhere
Sacul: Sufjan Stevens - Say Yes! to M!ch!gan / Make Me an Offer I Cannot Refuse / Back to Oz
ReaperKK: Jakub Zytecki - Somewhere Quiet / Sunflower / Creature Comfort
Stadler: Waylon Jennings - Theme from “The Dukes of Hazzard” (Good Ol’ Boys) / Don’t You Think This Outlaw Bit’s Done Got out of Hand / I’ve Always Been Crazy / I Ain’t Living Long Like This
TAC: Ardarith - Prologue / Enter the Void
romdrums: The Intersphere - Relations in the Unseen / The Ones We Never Knew / The Grand Delusion / Aurora
Lethean: Borknagar - Colossus / Frostrite / My Domain
dredg - Ireland / Catch Without Arms / Information
The Pineapple Thief - Alone at Sea / In Exile / All That You've Got
Kingcrow - Adrift / Folding Paper Dreams
This should be easy to figure out, especially when I tell you the remaining people are Tomislav, Vmadera and senecadawg.
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Kingcrow - Tomislav
Pineapple Thief - Vmadera
dredg - senecadawg
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Nailed it. Full set of submissions arranged by pools:
Pool A:
Lethean: Borknagar - Colossus / Frostrite / My Domain
Sacul: Sufjan Stevens - Say Yes! to M!ch!gan / Make Me an Offer I Cannot Refuse / Back to Oz
senecadawg2: dredg - Ireland / Catch Without Arms / Information
Pool B:
ReaperKK: Jakub Zytecki - Somewhere Quiet / Sunflower / Creature Comfort
twosuitsluke: Mandroid Echostar - Rosalia / Hypnos / Zelos
wolfking: Soilwork - Overgivenheten / Needles and Kin / Dreams of Nowhere
Pool C:
Buddyhunter1: Pure Reason Revolution - Silent Genesis / Beyond Our Bodies
Elite: Wes Montgomery - Airegin / Caravan / Sunny (Alternate Take) / Impressions (Live at the Half Note 1965)
HOF: Kip Winger - Every Story Told / Endless Circles / Naked Son
Pool D:
kingshmegland: Echolyn - Human Lottery / Winterthru / On Any Given Nite
Vmadera00:The Pineapple Thief - Alone at Sea / In Exile / All That You've Got
Stadler: Waylon Jennings - Theme from “The Dukes of Hazzard” (Good Ol’ Boys) / Don’t You Think This Outlaw Bit’s Done Got out of Hand / I’ve Always Been Crazy / I Ain’t Living Long Like This
Pool E:
LithoJazzoSphere: Kingfisher Sky - Mushroom Wall / Craving / Her White Dress
soupytwist: First Aid Kit - Fireworks / Emmylou / Stay Gold
Tomislav95: Kingcrow - Adrift / Folding Paper Dreams
Pool F:
Cyril: Vylet Pony - Harper / Bonnie / Lesbian Ponies with Weapons
romdrums: The Intersphere - Relations in the Unseen / The Ones We Never Knew / The Grand Delusion / Aurora
TAC: Ardarith - Prologue / Enter the Void
Also, just noticed that still no one has guessed the names of the Kingfisher Sky songs... anyone want to finish that up?
Still hoping to have impressions up shortly.
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No one guessed my other two songs.
:facepalm:
You guys are gonna regret it when they win the round again. :loser:
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Yeah, uh... Let's bring back in the list of letters that were guessed:
Letters used: H T M E N J S A R L D I Q
Anyone want to name the Kingfisher Sky songs, or do you want a letter, or what?
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Mushroom Wall and Craving ;D
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Great, NOW we're done with hangman! :lol
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:corn
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Alright, first six impressions:
This is really beautiful prog.
Like other songs I’ve heard from this artist, these have really impressive musicianship and what seems to be good songwriting. Just remains to be seen if this is what will finally push them over the top.
This song basically sounds like a combination of two of my favorite bands, so that’s a good sign.
This is not a sound I knew existed, and I have no idea what to make of it.
I quite like this band’s sound, the question is whether the compositions catch on for me.
This is in the sweet spot of heavy yet melodic.
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either the fourth one or none of these
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either the fourth one or none of these
Same, but it seems unlikely that it actually is this one.
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Pool A:
Lethean: Borknagar - Colossus / Frostrite / My Domain
Sacul: Sufjan Stevens - Say Yes! to M!ch!gan / Make Me an Offer I Cannot Refuse / Back to Oz
senecadawg2: dredg - Ireland / Catch Without Arms / Information
Pool B:
ReaperKK: Jakub Zytecki - Somewhere Quiet / Sunflower / Creature Comfort
twosuitsluke: Mandroid Echostar - Rosalia / Hypnos / Zelos
wolfking: Soilwork - Overgivenheten / Needles and Kin / Dreams of Nowhere
Pool C:
Buddyhunter1: Pure Reason Revolution - Silent Genesis / Beyond Our Bodies
Elite: Wes Montgomery - Airegin / Caravan / Sunny (Alternate Take) / Impressions (Live at the Half Note 1965)
HOF: Kip Winger - Every Story Told / Endless Circles / Naked Son
Pool D:
kingshmegland: Echolyn - Human Lottery / Winterthru / On Any Given Nite
Vmadera00:The Pineapple Thief - Alone at Sea / In Exile / All That You've Got
Stadler: Waylon Jennings - Theme from “The Dukes of Hazzard” (Good Ol’ Boys) / Don’t You Think This Outlaw Bit’s Done Got out of Hand / I’ve Always Been Crazy / I Ain’t Living Long Like This
Pool E:
LithoJazzoSphere: Kingfisher Sky - Mushroom Wall / Craving / Her White Dress
soupytwist: First Aid Kit - Fireworks / Emmylou / Stay Gold
Tomislav95: Kingcrow - Adrift / Folding Paper Dreams
Pool F:
Cyril: Vylet Pony - Harper / Bonnie / Lesbian Ponies with Weapons
romdrums: The Intersphere - Relations in the Unseen / The Ones We Never Knew / The Grand Delusion / Aurora
TAC: Ardarith - Prologue / Enter the Void
I'm not playing in this roulette, so I'm going to give my guesses as to which bands will win each pool. This is based purely on my tastes, which 425 should adopt :biggrin:
Pool A - dredg
Pool B - Jakub Zytecki
Pool C - Pure Reason Revolution
Pool D - Echolyn
Pool E - First Aid Kit
Pool F - The Intersphere
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if i were 425 ranking these songs, mine would be my favorites
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Alright, first six impressions:
This is really beautiful prog.
Like other songs I’ve heard from this artist, these have really impressive musicianship and what seems to be good songwriting. Just remains to be seen if this is what will finally push them over the top.
This song basically sounds like a combination of two of my favorite bands, so that’s a good sign.
This is not a sound I knew existed, and I have no idea what to make of it.
I quite like this band’s sound, the question is whether the compositions catch on for me.
This is in the sweet spot of heavy yet melodic.
Don't think I see mine on this first list.
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This is in the sweet spot of heavy yet melodic.[/i]
If I am in this grouping, I could see it being this.
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This is not a sound I knew existed, and I have no idea what to make of it.
I quite like this band’s sound, the question is whether the compositions catch on for me?
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I just finished listening to all the roulette submissions. Pretty large range of stuff this time, Mandroid Echostar, Sufjan Stevens, Ardarith, Wes Montgomery, dredg, Waylon Jennings, Soilwork, Pure Reason Revolution, and Kip Winger all together? No idea what movie could have that soundtrack. Yet the biggest curveball was easily Vylet Pony. I listened to "Lesbian Ponies With Weapons" first for the WTF? factor, and wasn't disappointed. I wanted to barf, definitely feels like a troll tune. But "Harper"? That one's actually kind of...good? It's not worlds apart from the normal modern synth/electropop I listen to a lot of. So that submission could be the "don't know what to make of it" if there's nothing even more appropriate in the next two sets of impressions.
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it is definitely not a troll entry because i genuinely love the song, but i have no clue how 425 will react to it
that's part of the fun!
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The closest I get to it is Grimes' "Kill V. Maim", which I like but find vocally excessive in moments, but I suspect hyperpop is not for me if typical songs are closer to "Lesbian Ponies".
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Pool A:
Lethean: Borknagar - Colossus / Frostrite / My Domain
Sacul: Sufjan Stevens - Say Yes! to M!ch!gan / Make Me an Offer I Cannot Refuse / Back to Oz
senecadawg2: dredg - Ireland / Catch Without Arms / Information
Pool B:
ReaperKK: Jakub Zytecki - Somewhere Quiet / Sunflower / Creature Comfort
twosuitsluke: Mandroid Echostar - Rosalia / Hypnos / Zelos
wolfking: Soilwork - Overgivenheten / Needles and Kin / Dreams of Nowhere
Pool C:
Buddyhunter1: Pure Reason Revolution - Silent Genesis / Beyond Our Bodies
Elite: Wes Montgomery - Airegin / Caravan / Sunny (Alternate Take) / Impressions (Live at the Half Note 1965)
HOF: Kip Winger - Every Story Told / Endless Circles / Naked Son
Pool D:
kingshmegland: Echolyn - Human Lottery / Winterthru / On Any Given Nite
Vmadera00:The Pineapple Thief - Alone at Sea / In Exile / All That You've Got
Stadler: Waylon Jennings - Theme from “The Dukes of Hazzard” (Good Ol’ Boys) / Don’t You Think This Outlaw Bit’s Done Got out of Hand / I’ve Always Been Crazy / I Ain’t Living Long Like This
Pool E:
LithoJazzoSphere: Kingfisher Sky - Mushroom Wall / Craving / Her White Dress
soupytwist: First Aid Kit - Fireworks / Emmylou / Stay Gold
Tomislav95: Kingcrow - Adrift / Folding Paper Dreams
Pool F:
Cyril: Vylet Pony - Harper / Bonnie / Lesbian Ponies with Weapons
romdrums: The Intersphere - Relations in the Unseen / The Ones We Never Knew / The Grand Delusion / Aurora
TAC: Ardarith - Prologue / Enter the Void
I'm not playing in this roulette, so I'm going to give my guesses as to which bands will win each pool. This is based purely on my tastes, which 425 should adopt :biggrin:
Pool A - dredg
Pool B - Jakub Zytecki
Pool C - Pure Reason Revolution
Pool D - Echolyn
Pool E - First Aid Kit
Pool F - The Intersphere
Puppies nailed this ranking
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Pool A: dredg - although Borknagar keeps growing on me
Pool B: Jakub Zytecki - I like Soilwork more in general, but those aren't my favorite songs of theirs
Pool C: Wes Montgomery - Pure Reason Revolution increasingly appeals to me as well though, and a few of the Kip Winger songs were better than I anticipated
Pool D: The Pineapple Thief
Pool E: Well duh, but I'm liking both of the other two more over time as well, that set of First Aid Kit songs is better than some of the others I've sampled in the past
Pool F: Ardarith, although "Harper" is my individual favorite song in the pool
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Pool C: Wes Montgomery
:hifive:
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Alright, first six impressions:
This song basically sounds like a combination of two of my favorite bands, so that’s a good sign.
Gotta be mine right?
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So.... more impressions? Rankings forthcoming? :corn
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Hey, folks. Sorry, it's been another crazy few days. Here's the next set of impressions. I'll get the rest in tonight and deliver the first batch of results tomorrow.
I like the third song here a lot better than the first two.
This takes a little while to get going, but once it goes, it's quite appealing.
I had little idea what to expect from this artist, but this is much prettier music than I would have guessed.
These songs are quite well done. The question for me is whether my interest in this style extends beyond a sense of nostalgia.
The vocals here feel a little out of place with the style of music, yet I like both? Let's see how my feelings on the combination develop.
Incredibly good chorus, but I can't help but wonder whether it would have been even better if the song was more dynamic.
Also:
Alright, first six impressions:
This song basically sounds like a combination of two of my favorite bands, so that’s a good sign.
Gotta be mine right?
Yes, this is you!
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Is mine one of these?
I like the third song here a lot better than the first two.
This takes a little while to get going, but once it goes, it's quite appealing.
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Yours is here, but neither of those.
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Mine?
The vocals here feel a little out of place with the style of music, yet I like both? Let's see how my feelings on the combination develop.
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Nope, not you. Your has been posted, though.
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Like other songs I’ve heard from this artist, these have really impressive musicianship and what seems to be good songwriting. Just remains to be seen if this is what will finally push them over the top
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are anyone's guesses for the first impression set correct? :lol
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Luke's was, as I confirmed earlier. No one else's.
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How about the sense of nostalgia one?
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Hrmm not sure if I can identify it, has mine been posted?
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Yes, it has.
No one has been right yet about the second impressions. Maybe these are too vague after all!
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I'm gonna wait 'til the third set to even guess mine. There are a few it could be, but none are as conspicuous as the last one.
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Let's try this one.
I quite like this band’s sound, the question is whether the compositions catch on for me
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Prettier music?
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I think none of these are for my submission!
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Mine could be 3 .
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I'm not in this batch.
425, can you confirm that I was not in the first batch either?
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Prettier music?
Yes, this is you!
I'm not in this batch.
425, can you confirm that I was not in the first batch either?
You're in the second batch.
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Jeez, no idea. Couldn't even guess which batch I'm in truthfully.
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Is this one mine?
The vocals here feel a little out of place with the style of music, yet I like both? Let's see how my feelings on the combination develop.
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Mine takes a little while to get going.
Wait..we’re still talking about the roulette right??
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I'm having trouble with mine as well; it's an unpopular genre here, but I tried to get songs that might overlap with what we are more familiar with here.
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Okay, I've done draft writeups on three pools, but I still want to revisit submissions in two of them before making final decisions. I'll try to get those up in the morning (it's Pools F and A, in case you want to know whether you're on deck), but since I promised results today, here is 1 (one) result:
Pool B:
ReaperKK: Jakub Zytecki - Somewhere Quiet / Sunflower / Creature Comfort
Impression: This is not a sound I knew existed, and I have no idea what to make of it.
The impression is a slight exaggeration, but this is a pretty distinctive sound: largely electronic music with heavy use of guitar. I will say: It is nothing if not interesting. I’m pretty fascinated by what he’s doing here in terms of creating some really interesting atmospheres. This is apparent right away in Somewhere Quiet, which has an unusual sort of climax.
That said, I’m not enamored with any of these songs, in no small part because they are pretty amorphous and sometimes rather disjointed, as is the case especially with Creature Comfort. That song takes being disjointed almost to the point of chaos, which does not appeal to me.
twosuitsluke: Mandroid Echostar - Rosalia / Hypnos / Zelos
Impression: This basically sounds like a combination of two of my favorite bands, so that’s a good sig
One of many artists this round from whom I’ve heard one song before. That one didn’t make much of an impression on me other than the obvious observation everyone has made already: The singer sounds like Claudio.
Don’t know why it missed the mark then, but it sure isn’t now. Rosalia sounds like a cross between Coheed and Iron Maiden between the vocal melodies on the one hand and the gallop and solo section on the other, and it’s awesome. The other two songs keep things going with an epic sound on Hypnos and a ton of buildup on Zelos. The finale of that one is just excellent. After listened to these three songs, I definitely intend to seek out more from this band.
Having now spent time with four songs from this band, I really still can hardly believe that it’s NOT Claudio singing. Regardless, the vocals just work on these songs.
wolfking: Soilwork - Overgivenheten / Needles and Kin / Dreams of Nowhere
Impression: This is in the sweet spot of heavy yet melodic.
This is probably music that I would have pushed away a couple of years ago as too heavy on harsh vocals. Now, it’s exactly in a certain kind of sweet spot for me. In fact, it almost feels like cheating to send this after I said I’ve really gotten into Amorphis (even without actually sending a song that has Amorphis’s vocalist on it). The sound is quite similar, although each band still has a distinct identity.
But yeah, this is good stuff. Heavy, yet melodic, a good mix of harsh and clean vocals, memorable choruses, just a slight folk influence, all good. I’m not without complaints. For example, I think Needles and Kin spends too much time on its chorus given that the chorus is not really my favorite part of that song. But on the whole, I’m happy with this submission, and definitely interested in hearing more from this artist.
Decision:
These ones line up very easily; not much deliberation required to order them. Mandroid Echostar was my favorite; these songs were just so epic. Soilwork comes in second, with songs I quite liked, but didn’t love the way I did the Mandroid tracks. And Jakub Zytecki comes in third, with an interesting sound and some moments that impressed me, but too disjointed and chaotic an approach on the whole for me to love.
twosuitsluke/Mandroid Echostar: 3 points
wolfking/Soilwork: 2 points
ReaperKK/Jakub Zytecki: 1 point
Totals:
Three-way tie at 4 points
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Solid. Yeah, Soilwork is good shit.
Might have to check Mandroid Echostar. Never heard of them.
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More results:
Pool F:
Cyril: Vylet Pony - Harper / Bonnie / Lesbian Ponies with Weapons
Impression (never posted): The vocals on one of these songs are definitely not for me.
So, I definitely did not know that My-Little-Pony-themed synthpop (plus other genres) was a style of music that existed. It’s not a subject matter that interests me, but I do have to respect the songwriting ability on display here. Bonnie definitely stands out as my favorite of the three songs here. I like the groove in the first half, and then I think it makes the transition well into a completely different style in the back half work. Harper is a solid synthpop piece, nothing that I’d be over the moon about, but one that has a strong chorus. I will say, I generally don’t find the vocals on these songs to stand out for better or for worse. It’s generally a serviceable performance, but not one I find highly compelling. The one standout moment is the screamed line in Bonnie, which was unexpected to me but really worked.
The third song, Lesbian Ponies with Weapons, though, is… uh, not for me. This feels like the musical equivalent of cotton candy. The heavily altered vocals produce a kind of unsettling effect on me, and the whole musical style just feels too unreal to me. It’s an undeniably catchy song, but not for me.
I will say, that though I don’t inherently object to the theming of this, I do find it a little strange that the lyrics seem to largely be about real-life experiences, but with unexpected equine references? I don’t want to be dismissive of someone writing what seem to be personal lyrics, but the style doesn’t connect with me.
romdrums: The Intersphere - Relations in the Unseen / The Ones We Never Knew / The Grand Delusion / Aurora
Impression (never posted): This is a style that sometimes interests me and other times falls flat, so this could go either way.
I have a hard time saying exactly how I’d describe the style of these songs, but generally I’d say this is a sort of alt-prog sound? In any case, bands in this general sonic family can be really hit or miss with me. Mile Marker Zero, from the previous round, for example, was a definite hit.
The Intersphere feels like it’s somewhere in the middle. I don’t find that any of these songs blow me away, but I find them all solid and listenable. Aurora is probably my favorite song overall, straightforward and enjoyable. The second half of The Grand Delusion is my favorite section here, as there’s something more of an epic feel to it.
TAC: Ardarith - Prologue / Enter the Void
Impression: This takes a little while to get going, but once it goes, it's quite appealing.
As the impression mentioned, this one is a bit slow to start, but for very understandable reasons: What we have here are the first two tracks of a concept album, and I would probably be able to tell that just from listening to them and not even knowing that the first one is called “Prologue.”
I’m definitely a fan of these Ayreon/Avantasia style projects with multiple singers, and this sounds like another promising one. I like the instrumentation here. There are a lot of dynamics between parts that can get pretty heavy and soft sections led by piano and strings. Both songs also feature good buildups, something I definitely enjoy in music.
The vocals aren’t completely blowing me away at this point, but I think the singers are all obviously talented, and the vocals grow on me more each time I listen to it, so maybe I will come to love them in time. I think some of the melodies that are meant to be epic fall just short of what they’re aiming for, but not enough to ruin the songs. And the harsh vocals are used quite well here.
This isn’t a home run, but it’s a solid double that certainly makes me want to hear the rest of the album.
Decision:
This is a case where the winner is very clear, and the tough choice for me is second versus third. Ardarith is definitely my favorite submission of the three. I enjoy both Ardarith songs all the way through, and my interest is piqued to hear more.
The other two submissions were both solid without being spectacular, and the choice between the two of them is definitely a close call. In the end, I think I’m going to choose The Intersphere on the strength of The Grand Delusion and Aurora. In making this decision, I’m going to fall back on my rationale for running this roulette and say that, based on what I’ve heard here, I’d be more interested in hearing a whole album of The Intersphere material than Vylet Pony material. Close call, though, because of the strength of Bonnie.
TAC/Ardarith: 3 points
romdrums/The Intersphere: 2 points
Cyril/Vylet Pony: 1 point
Totals:
TAC: 5 points
Cyril: 4 points
romdrums: 3 points
Pool A:
Lethean: Borknagar - Colossus / Frostrite / My Domain
Impression: The vocals here feel a little out of place with the style of music, yet I like both? Let's see how my feelings on the combination develop.
I’ve heard exactly one song from Borknagar, on a previous Lethean roulette submission. This was Voices, which I really liked, but I was sort of unsure what to expect from the rest of their material—based, if I’m being honest, on the band logo. So I’m grateful for this opportunity to hear a little bit more from them.
Immediate impression is that this is probably as black metally as you can get still have something I like. For one thing, on Colossus, they’re doing the thing where the production is bad for no reason, which I don’t like, but it’s not bad enough to ruin the song. Fortunately, the riffs and melodies are quite good on that one.
On the whole, I think the songs here are pretty interesting. This is particularly true of the third song, My Domain, which has a good atmosphere (the thing that drew me to Voices, as well). But generally there are interesting riffs and melodies on all three tracks.
That said, the vocals sometimes don’t work for me. I’d rather hear these largely clean vocals than black metal vocals, for sure, but I don’t always like the way the high-pitched vocals sound, especially over some of the heavier riffs. I do like the vocals, though, on My Domain, where the singer spends more time in a low register.
Sacul: Sufjan Stevens - Say Yes! to M!ch!gan! / Make Me an Offer I Cannot Refuse / Back to Oz
Impression: Incredibly good chorus, but I can't help but wonder whether it would have been even better if the song was more dynamic.
Sufjan is an artist I’m fairly familiar with, mainly through his album Illinois (and thanks to a Sacul submission in my first roulette!), but his stuff can be hit or miss with me. There are songs like Chicago and Decatur that I really enjoy, and there are some that just don’t really do it for me, like John Wayne Gacy and Casimir Pulaski Day. So it’s interesting to see how a few songs I’ve never heard before sit with me.
I would say this is 2/3 songs that work for me. Make Me an Offer I Cannot Refuse has an interesting main melodic phrase, but the electronic elements on this one just don’t work for me, and it feels like it’s just that melody surrounded by other stuff that does nothing for me. And then it turns into a completely different song for the last minute. Say Yes! to M!ch!gan is also sort of relying on one or two good melodic ideas, but it stays home with those ideas and delivers a pretty enjoyable experience.
Back to Oz is my favorite of the three. Again, he’s found a spectacular hook, but here it’s really fleshed out into a full piece. What holds me back from loving it, though, is how airy the whole thing is throughout. It feels like it would benefit from greater dynamics to really drive home that chorus. Still a really good song, but one I can’t quite go all-in for.
senecadawg2: dredg - Ireland / Catch Without Arms / Information
Impression (never posted): These are all catchy songs, but will I enjoy them on a deeper level?
I’m quite sure I’ve heard this band before (and the Google Doc says I’ve heard The Canyon Behind Her in roulette), but I don’t remember my impression of them at all. So this is basically a new experience for me.
I would call all three of these at least solid alt-leaning rock songs. Catch Without Arms is the standout of the three. The main chorus is really memorable, and sung emotionally. The transition into it is good as well. Information is also strong. I like the piano theme that shows up at the beginning, and the second half, from instrumental section through the end, is compelling.
I’m less into Ireland. It’s a decent song, but the chorus just doesn’t quite work for me as well as the other two do. I'd say of these three it's the one that is just catchy to me, while Catch Without Arms and Information connect with me on a more substantial level.
Decision:
This is another really close decision. After I had some issues with all the submissions in this pool last round, this is definitely a step in the right direction… taken by all three players at almost the same rate. This is a pool where I’ve seriously contemplated every ordering of the three submissions. And all three seriously increased my level of interest in the respective artists. I tried ranking all the songs and averaging the placements, and they ended up averaging out to exactly the same score.
So really splitting hairs, I’m going to give first place to Borknagar. The atmosphere was most up my alley of all the submissions, particularly the latter two tracks. These also feel like the biggest growers, and My Domain most suggests that there are more songs by the artist I could really get into.
I’m then going to put Sufjan second on the strength of Back to Oz. Hard for me to put my favorite song of the pool in last place. Say Yes! to M!ch!gan is also a memorable piece, and there are parts of Make Me an Offer I Cannot Refuse that absolutely stick with me. That leaves dredg in third, unfortunately. If there was a third song I liked almost as well as Catch Without Arms and Information, it would have won, but Ireland was close to my least favorite song of the round.
Lethean/Borknagar: 3 points
Sacul/Sufjan Stevens: 2 points
senecadawg2/dredg: 1 point
Totals:
Lethean: 5 points
senecadawg2: 4 points
Sacul: 3 points
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cannot say i'm too surprised, hopefully my third submission also tanks :neverusethis:
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:metal Also a sigh of relief. :) My feelings on his vocals weren't too positive at first, and you're starting from a slightly better opinion so maybe they'll grow on you more. FWIW, I generally don't listen to a lot of music with a significant amount of harsh vocals, but Borknagar seems to work for me even on the tracks that have a lot of them.
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also i will say if you're gonna send electronuc sufjan, the ascension is a weird pick imo :lol plenty of tunes on the age of adz or planetarium that i like way more, and tbh plenty of other songs on the ascension that are better too but details
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I'm glad you enjoyed at least two of the songs. :yarr
I'll send the next round soon. But remind me, is it the bottom 1 or 2 from each group that are eliminated after this round?
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I'll take that for sure. I've been really digging the Ardarith album.
Sent for Round 3..
425, if in the next round, the our pool goes...
romdrums..3 points
Cyril..2 points
TAC..1 point
...then there'll be a three way tie with 6 pints. How will you break the tie?
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By drinking all those 6 pints. First one to finish wins.
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:facepalm: :lol
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Tee hee.
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:rollin Best typo so far in the roulette.
they’re doing the thing where the production is bad for no reason
Oh, there's definitely a reason, but you have to be wearing corpse paint to understand it.
I don’t always like the way the high-pitched vocals sound
Shame, ICS Vortex is my favorite thing about them.
dredg's "Catch Without Arms" is by far my favorite single song so far, as it has been for a long time. Hopefully you'll love that whole album, there are others I enjoy even more on it, particularly "Not That Simple" and "Jamais Vu". Mark Engles has some of my favorite guitar tones ever.
425, is there a particular reason you didn't post the third set of impressions? I miss trying to guess the entries, particularly once you know one of them has to be your own.
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Hey, really glad you liked Mandroid Echostar. It was a safe bet, and with it all tied going into the next round I'll clearly need to play it safe again.
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The reason I didn't post the third set of impressions is because I was too busy to post the third set of impressions and before the time I appointed to write the first set of writeups. I can post them now to give something for people to work on between now and the next set of results later tonight:
The vocals on one of these songs are definitely not for me. (Vylet Pony)
This is a style that sometimes interests me and other times falls flat, so this could go either way. (The Intersphere)
These are all catchy songs, but will I enjoy them on a deeper level? (dredg)
There's a good chance that this will fall into the category of sad/dark in a bad way for me.
Not a style of music I listen to often, but these songs definitely catch my attention in a good way.
A very bold choice to send, but I’m kind of drawn to this
I'm glad you enjoyed at least two of the songs. :yarr
I'll send the next round soon. But remind me, is it the bottom 1 or 2 from each group that are eliminated after this round?
:tup
Bottom one is eliminated. It comes down to the fact that I want to eliminate 1/3 of participants this time, not 2/3.
I'll take that for sure. I've been really digging the Ardarith album.
Sent for Round 3..
425, if in the next round, the our pool goes...
romdrums..3 points
Cyril..2 points
TAC..1 point
...then there'll be a three way tie with 6 pints. How will you break the tie?
Good point. I've thought a little about how to break ties, but now's the time to make a clear policy.
Here's where I'm leaning: If there's a tie, I rank all the submissions from the relevant people for all three rounds from top to bottom (like I did with all the R1 submissions after posting all the results), and whoever has the best average placement wins (and the worst loses). That way, it's a bit of help to people who took third place when their pool had a really strong round.
So, for example, if three people are tied at six after each getting one 3rd place, one 2nd place and one 1st place, and my ranking of all their submissions goes like this:
1. A (R1)
2. B (R2)
3. A (R2)
4. C (R3)
5. B (R3)
6. C (R2)
7. A (R3)
8. C (R1)
9. B (R1)
Then the winner would be A (because their average placement is 3.67), second place would be B (average placement: 5.33), and third place would be C (average placement: 6).
If a further tiebreaker is needed, the tied people send one song each, under 8 minutes, and I rank their songs.
I'm open to suggestions or explanations of why this won't work, though.
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also i will say if you're gonna send electronuc sufjan, the ascension is a weird pick imo :lol plenty of tunes on the age of adz or planetarium that i like way more, and tbh plenty of other songs on the ascension that are better too but details
I wanted to send something from other albums but the time length didn't allow me :P
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I'm open to suggestions or explanations of why this won't work, though.
What's wrong with Joe's idea? :lol
By drinking all those 6 pints. First one to finish wins.
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"I quite like this band’s sound, the question is whether the compositions catch on for me." - is this me?
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I'm open to suggestions or explanations of why this won't work, though.
What's wrong with Joe's idea? :lol
By drinking all those 6 pints. First one to finish wins.
I don't want to be held liable for anything anyone does after drinking all those pints!
"I quite like this band’s sound, the question is whether the compositions catch on for me." - is this me?
No.
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i don't drink so i'd instantly lose :lol
which may or may not happen after my round 3 submission anyways, i am more confident in this one than vylet pony but who knows what'll happen
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Should I swing for the fences and hope it's this one then?
"This is really beautiful prog."
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:rollin Best typo so far in the roulette.
they’re doing the thing where the production is bad for no reason
Oh, there's definitely a reason, but you have to be wearing corpse paint to understand it.
I feel fortunate that I generally don't care about bad production. :) Though 425 - there's some intentional static at the beginning of Colossus to go along with the lyrics.
I don’t always like the way the high-pitched vocals sound
Shame, ICS Vortex is my favorite thing about them.
ICS Vortex is my favorite thing about anything he's involved in. (But pre-Vortex Arcturus is still totally awesome.)
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Not a style of music I listen to often, but these songs definitely catch my attention in a good way.
A very bold choice to send, but I’m kind of drawn to this.
I think might be one of these?
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And one of those is mine as well
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I initially thought Stadler might be one of those two, but I suppose it could be any of the three.
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Should I swing for the fences and hope it's this one then?
"This is really beautiful prog."
Yes.
Soupy and Elite are right that those two are theirs.
Everything is coming within a couple of hours.
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Pool D:
kingshmegland: Echolyn - Human Lottery / Winterthru / On Any Given Nite
Impression: I like the third song here a lot better than the first two.
Here’s an artist I’ve heard (and liked) previously: I heard The End is Beautiful years ago. The material here brings in a different set of dimensions, with mixed success as far as my liking it. Human Lottery is impressive from an instrumental perspective, with some great playing on the instrumental sections especially. I’m not as crazy about the vocal parts. I don’t think they’re bad, but they don’t appeal to me all that much. Winterthru is a solid song, a little bit more in the opposite direction, where I find the vocal parts more interesting than the instrumentals.
But it’s On Any Given Nite that’s really something special. Here the vocals and instrumentation really come together to produce something memorable and emotionally powerful. The delivery of that line “I say no, I’m not ready” is really something. What a great piece.
Stadler: Waylon Jennings - Theme from “The Dukes of Hazzard” (Good Ol’ Boys) / Don’t You Think This Outlaw Bit’s Done Got Out of Hand / I’ve Always Been Crazy / I Ain’t Living Long Like This
Impression: These songs are quite well done. The question for me is whether my interest in this style extends beyond a sense of nostalgia.
I’m not sure if Stadler remembers us talking about this a year or two ago, but I actually grew up listening to a fair amount of country music (largely 80s/90s neotraditional country), so there’s a certain nostalgia there for me, even though it’s not a style I’m attracted to much as an adult.
So, this gives Stadler the benefit of having sent country music to someone who does not reflexively hate or dismiss it, but in fact has a certain attachment to some songs in that style. On the other hand, it might blunt some of the intended effect of this submission, if part of the intent was to get me to take notice of a genre I hadn’t paid much mind before.
Speaking about the actual songs themselves, these are all quite good. They’re memorable with some depth to them. The vocal performances are excellent, really charismatic. And there’s some good instrumental work at times here, too, such as the ending of I Ain’t Living Long Like This.
I think the uphill battle that was always going to exist here is that country is familiar to me but not something I’m inclined to seek out. That said, this submission elevated my present level of interest in the genre, and Jennings impressed me as a really interesting artist working in that genre.
Vmadera00: The Pineapple Thief: Alone at Sea / In Exile / All That You’ve Got
Impression: There's a good chance that this will fall into the category of sad/dark in a bad way for me.
Another artist from whom I’ve heard a couple of songs in previous roulettes. And my impression have always been that I regard them as pretty talented, but not an artist that personally connects with me, and one with something of a tendency in the overly-bleak direction. I’ve sort of treated them, fairly or unfairly, as cousins of that other PT, especially given the presence of Gavin Harrison in both bands.
I wouldn’t say this submission has radically changed that impression of them, but it has at least given me a fuller picture of the band’s sound. These are, at the very least, three good songs. In Exile is the one that gives me the most of a Porcupine Tree vibe, and it’s the one I find least interesting. The other two songs have some interesting things going for them, and I enjoy listening to them when they’re on, but I’m not passionate about them. I’d say this submission has increased my interest in The Pineapple Thief without being a particularly strong inducement to get further into them.
Decision:
There were a lot of songs in this pool that I enjoyed, but didn’t fall in love with. The one that stands out from the pack is clearly On Any Given Nite, which I did really, really like. And with the Echolyn submission also including one of the better tracks of the pool in Human Lottery, that’s going to notch King another win.
The closer call is the battle for second between Waylon Jennings and The Pineapple Thief. There, I’m going to give the edge Waylon. I think there was a lot of charisma in these songs and his performances that made them really stand out to me as interesting. And if I ever am in the mood to return to country music, this pretty much guarantees my starting place. The Pineapple Thief songs were well-done, and avoided the too-bleak feeling on two out of three tracks, but nothing about them really leaps out to me as something I need to follow up on. Just well-made songs in a style of prog that isn’t my favorite.
kingshmegland/Echolyn: 3 points
Stadler/Waylon Jennings: 2 points
Vmadera00/The Pineapple Thief: 1 point
Totals:
kingshmegland: 6 points
Stadler: 3 points
Vmadera00: 3 points
This makes king the first person to punch a ticket to round 4-6, as regardless of what happens in round 3, he will finish first in Pool D! Round 3 can still matter to you, though, in that a higher cumulative score gets you a higher seed. So while you might decide to save your best material for Round 4, please still do send something for Round 3.
Pool C:
LithoJazzoSphere: Kingfisher Sky - Mushroom Wall / Craving / Her White Dress
Impression: This is really beautiful prog.
So, once again, this is a band that is first of all appealing to me because of the emotional style of the frontwoman. But there are compelling aspects to the music here, too. What I like about the approach to Mushroom Wall and the Craving is that the structure is built around some heavier riffs and verses, and then they just open up into these soft, beautiful choruses.
Her White Dress is different in that it’s softer than the other two songs, but this is the best of the set, I think. In those, the compelling parts were the choruses, and the actual content of the verses I could take or leave, while here, everything is good.
I will say, however, that some of the luster of this one wore off on later listens. It became really noticeable to me that I was finding the heavier sections relatively uninteresting in and of themselves, mainly finding them valuable in their contrast to the softer sections. But the softer sections really are beautiful, beautiful enough to keep me interested on the whole.
soupytwist: First Aid Kit - Fireworks / Emmylou / Stay Gold
Impression: Not a style of music I listen to often, but these songs definitely catch my attention in a good way.
I don’t often listen to laidback folk music like this, but these songs work for me. There’s a lot of emotion, plus some really memorable melodies. Emmylou is a great example. I’m really attracted to that chorus, and it’s because of both the melody and the vocal delivery.
Stay Gold is one of those songs that really touches me emotionally. There’s sad tone here, but it’s one I really relate to and connect with. And the combination of the slower verses and the chorus where there’s a bit more speed and energy really works to make that chorus an emotional highlight. And the last one, where it comes in a capella for a moment? Excellent.
Tomislav95: Kingcrow - Adrift / Folding Paper Dreams
Impression: Like other songs I’ve heard from this artist, this is really impressive musicianship and what seems to be good songwriting. Just remains to be seen if this is what will finally push them over the top.
Yet another band with which I have some history (this was really the round for this, which I don’t mind). I’ve heard three songs of theirs before in roulette, and always found their stuff well-done and interesting, but haven’t quite gotten to the point of pulling the trigger on any of their albums, so they remain legal.
Adrift is a seriously good song. I really like how there’s a lot of variation within this relatively short piece. The “Heavy rains” chorus is quite good, and the guitar solo is excellent. Really like this as just a solid piece of prog.
I’m not as crazy about Folding Paper Dreams. The chorus is really good, but the eerie sort of sound that permeates a lot of the song isn’t really doing it for me. The mood is generally running close to the kind of darkness that isn’t really for me. It’s not oppressively like that, but it’s trending in that direction, much more so than Adrift.
Decision:
First place is a pretty clear decision for me after hearing these songs several times: First Aid Kit has one song I powerfully connect with and another I like a lot, so it’s the winner. The harder choice is between Kingfisher Sky and Kingcrow. Both of them sort of had a half I liked a lot and a half I didn’t care for as much. If Kingfisher Sky had been all the softer parts, like Her White Dress, it would be the clear choice, and vice versa if the second Kingcrow song had been more like Adrift. I think, because it connects with me more emotionally, I’m going to go with Kingfisher Sky. But this was a tough choice between two that I both probably wanted to like more than I ultimately did, though I genuinely did like both.
soupytwist/First Aid Kit: 3 points
LithoJazzoSphere/Kingfisher Sky: 2 points
Tomislav95/Kingcrow: 1 point
Totals:
LithoJazzoSphere: 5 points
soupytwist: 5 points
Tomislav95: 2 points
So, we have our first pool where the elimination is decided already. Tomislav, sorry, but you are mathematically eliminated from advancing to rounds 4-6. I think you ran into some tough luck this round, because you came very close to staying alive.
I do ask that all of you still submit songs for Round 3. Seeding will matter for figuring out the next set of pools, and Litho and soupy still have something to play for here in terms of fighting it out for higher seeding. Tomi, this is your last chance to get something on my playlist, and since there are no consequences, you can subject me to whatever you want. Hopefully that’s inducement enough!
Pool C:
Buddyhunter1: Pure Reason Revolution - Silent Genesis / Beyond Our Bodies
Impression: I quite like this band’s sound, the question is whether the compositions catch on for me.
So, this is probably the band sent so far that I know the best. I’m more or less familiar with the whole album The Dark Third, after getting Bullitts Dominae in roulette and really loving it. I like parts of The Dark Third, but had difficulty penetrating other parts and really coming to a view of the whole album. Plus, my recollection is that at the time I got it, they had three albums only, two of which were quite different from The Dark Third. These songs are from their comeback. So everything except The Dark Third was legal here, seeing as I had no intention of looking beyond that album if not induced to do so.
Silent Genesis strikes me similarly to much of The Dark Third. I like the sound, I enjoy listening to the thing, but I have a hard time breaking it down and getting a sense of what it’s doing as a piece of music. Maybe that’s a me problem, maybe it just needs more time, but that’s a factor here.
Beyond Our Bodies is much more comprehensible to me, and I like it quite well. I particularly enjoy the sense of uplift toward the end. The atmosphere is strong as ever, but here the melodies are working for me, too.
Elite: Wes Montgomery - Airegin / Caravan / Sunny (Alternate Take) / Impressions (Live at the Half Note)
Impression: A very bold choice to send, but I’m immediately drawn to this.
I am very much a novice to jazz. I mean, I’ve heard it before, plenty of times actually. But I’ve never really *listened* to it, focused in on it, tried to take it in, thought about how I reacted to it. That just inherently makes this a tall order for a roulette submission, because you have to count on my ability to decipher music in a style that’s really unfamiliar to me and then to decide whether I appreciate it.
I think that order has been met as well as could be imagined here. I’m drawn to this music. Though there’s definitely a lot I’m missing, there’s a sense of joyful energy on a piece like Caravan or Impressions that I enjoy. There’s a kind of emotional content and a way of understanding or breaking down music here that’s somewhat different from the type of music I normally listen to that’s appealing to me in a certain way. And I’m definitely inspired to try to learn to “hear” this style of music more clearly.
Oh, and I’m quite impressed with the precision and expressiveness of Montgomery’s guitar playing, especially when a lot of these rhythms require him to play pretty fast. That comes out right away in Airegin, for example.
HOF: Kip Winger - Every Story Told / Endless Circles / Naked Son
Impression: I had little idea what to expect from this artist, but this is much prettier music than I would have guessed.
Slightly embarrassing confession: I only know of Kip Winger because of this forum. Specifically, I mainly know of Kip Winger from TAC not liking him. What I’ve generally gathered is that Winger was a hair band that made cheesy music and for some reason TAC really doesn’t like them. “Hair band” was enough to make me tune out without ever actually listening to any of the music.
Well, now I’m listening to this playlist of Kip Winger solo music, and it’s… not at all what I was expecting! :lol I mean, I can hear the 80s vibe, but this is presumably not at all the kind of music he played with Winger the band.
So, now that the surprise has worn off, how do I feel about this? Uh… I really like it? The songs are here. Really good, memorable melodies, catchy choruses (particularly Every Story Told), instrumentation that is genuinely tasteful and fitting, even when it’s flute and 80s-sounding keyboards.
The real highlight is Naked Son, which I would not have expected to like just based on the title. This is a really well put-together song, with a great sense of motion of flow from one part to another, and Winger’s vocal performance (I assume it’s his) is really good.
Decision:
TAC, look away.
My clear favorite from this group is Kip Winger. Those songs were all just really good, memorable pieces of music that I always enjoyed listening to.
Now, for second place. I liked both of the other two, and in both cases felt that there was more to get from them than I could in the time allotted. That’s something I was expecting, because in one case it was an artist I had experienced that phenomenon with before, and in the other case it was a new and different genre that’s largely unfamiliar to me. But I have to judge based on what I was able to glean. And I think I’m going to give second place to Wes Montgomery. I just really liked the joy and the energy of this, and it deserves real credit for getting me interested in a new genre of music. I liked the Pure Reason Revolution stuff, too, but there’s a darkness and impenetrability to Silent Genesis that makes it less appealing to me than the Montgomery material. Beyond Our Bodies is almost enough to make me choose PRR, but given the relative duration of each PRR piece and the degree to which the Montgomery submission helped get me interested in his work, I have to just give the edge to Montgomery.
HOF/Kip Winger: 3 points
Elite/Wes Montgomery: 2 points
Buddyhunter1/Pure Reason Revolution: 1 point
Totals:
HOF: 5 points
Buddyhunter1: 4 points
Elite: 3 points
That concludes Round 2 results. If people are still interested, maybe I'll come back tomorrow with an overall ranking and some choices of favorite songs. On the whole, I think Round 2 was more consistent in quality, but the highs weren't as high as those of Round 1. A lot of cases where I was making tough choices between submissions I liked pretty well but didn't love.
I'm going to make one final note of advice in advance of Round 3: A lot of people have been sending music that kind of combines an alt-rock sound with a prog sensibility. That actually isn't a super safe type of music to send me! There are times when it can really pay off, like it has for King so far, but it can also fall flat or really miss.
In general, if you asked me whether I prefer prog that has a kind of rough-around-the-edges, alt-rock-infused sound or prog that has a glossy, power-metal-infused sound, I would definitely say the latter! That doesn't mean I don't like some instances of the former, even like them a lot (again, see Mile Marker Zero). It doesn't mean I'll like every instance of the latter. And I think people should generally send what they want to send. But it might help people to know what the safer choice of the two is.
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Pleased to win the round and get though! It's funny you didn't mention 'Fireworks' as that to me is First Aid Kits masterpiece, and the one I was banking the submission on! ;D
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Pleased to win the round and get though! It's funny you didn't mention 'Fireworks' as that to me is First Aid Kits masterpiece, and the one I was banking the submission on! ;D
Agreed. Was it you that sent that to me in my first roulette? The one you disappeared on halfway through ;)
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Pleased to win the round and get though! It's funny you didn't mention 'Fireworks' as that to me is First Aid Kits masterpiece, and the one I was banking the submission on! ;D
Agreed. Was it you that sent that to me in my first roulette? The one you disappeared on halfway through ;)
Yeah sorry about that mate. Dad passed and I needed to go and stay with my Mum for a while (who lives in Portugal).
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Oh man!! Awesome!
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Yeah sorry about that mate. Dad passed and I needed to go and stay with my Mum for a while (who lives in Portugal).
Oh man!! Awesome!
Joe, WTF? :lol
Timing!!
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I can see why TPT wouldn't be your kind of prog. They deff feel like a distant cousin to PT in their style. Congrats King! :hefdaddy
Gonna have to think about my next submission, see if I can stay alive. Maybe I'll risk it and send harsh vocals :corn
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Well, I definitely suck :lol
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If Kingfisher Sky had been all the softer parts, like Her White Dress, it would be the clear choice
Well fortunately for you, they have plenty more where those came from if you want to investigate them further, or ask me sometime and I can highlight other similar songs. They are a rather multifaceted band, and showcasing them in less than 15 minutes is quite challenging. I went for a diversification strategy, which clearly had middling results. In particular, they also have a bit of a more epic side, which was only hinted at here. I waffled some with myself whether I should have taken that approach, I guess I just won't know. But at least I'm safe for the time being.
Adrift is a seriously good song.
My favorite I've heard from them so far as well.
I do ask that all of you still submit songs for Round 3. Seeding will matter for figuring out the next set of pools, and Litho and soupy still have something to play for here in terms of fighting it out for higher seeding.
This early in the game, I'm guessing seeding is still mostly a crapshoot. With no fear of elimination, I'm gonna send something slightly riskier, but hopefully you wind up loving it anyway.
If people are still interested, maybe I'll come back tomorrow with an overall ranking and some choices of favorite songs.
Definitely.
It's funny you didn't mention 'Fireworks' as that to me is First Aid Kits masterpiece, and the one I was banking the submission on! ;D
That's also easily my favorite song of theirs I've heard yet.
Well, I definitely suck :lol
Just root for soup and I to take 1st and 2nd place and then you won't feel so bad. :p
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Pleased to win the round and get though! It's funny you didn't mention 'Fireworks' as that to me is First Aid Kits masterpiece, and the one I was banking the submission on! ;D
Agreed. Was it you that sent that to me in my first roulette? The one you disappeared on halfway through ;)
Yeah sorry about that mate. Dad passed and I needed to go and stay with my Mum for a while (who lives in Portugal).
Hey no worries. I figured you had a good reason.
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Wack
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Yeah sorry about that mate. Dad passed and I needed to go and stay with my Mum for a while (who lives in Portugal).
Oh man!! Awesome!
Joe, WTF? :lol
Timing!!
I completely missed that. Just read that I'm onto the next round.
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This early in the game, I'm guessing seeding is still mostly a crapshoot. With no fear of elimination, I'm gonna send something slightly riskier, but hopefully you wind up loving it anyway.
Yeah I've gone for something I wouldn't send if I wasn't safe!
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Yeah sorry about that mate. Dad passed and I needed to go and stay with my Mum for a while (who lives in Portugal).
Oh man!! Awesome!
Joe, WTF? :lol
Timing!!
I completely missed that. Just read that I'm onto the next round.
Ha! ;D
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Not a style of music I listen to often, but these songs definitely catch my attention in a good way.
A very bold choice to send, but I’m kind of drawn to this[/i]
Maybe one of these, hopefully?
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So, this gives Stadler the benefit of having sent country music to someone who does not reflexively hate or dismiss it, but in fact has a certain attachment to some songs in that style. On the other hand, it might blunt some of the intended effect of this submission, if part of the intent was to get me to take notice of a genre I hadn’t paid much mind before.
Speaking about the actual songs themselves, these are all quite good. They’re memorable with some depth to them. The vocal performances are excellent, really charismatic. And there’s some good instrumental work at times here, too, such as the ending of I Ain’t Living Long Like This.
I think the uphill battle that was always going to exist here is that country is familiar to me but not something I’m inclined to seek out. That said, this submission elevated my present level of interest in the genre, and Jennings impressed me as a really interesting artist working in that genre.
I do remember that conversation; I just wanted to send the message that the things we love about prog and rock can be found in the best of country. So much of what passes for country is what gets dismissed on pop radio - not a lot of instrumental support, multiple writers, a lot of production - but I always envisioned some of the outlaw country guys - Waylon for sure - fitting right in with a band like say, The Winery Dogs, a group of talented musicians who go in and play, and aren't really worried about the length of the song, or the place on the charts.
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Oh yeah!
HOF: Kip Winger - Every Story Told / Endless Circles / Naked Son
Impression: I had little idea what to expect from this artist, but this is much prettier music than I would have guessed.
Slightly embarrassing confession: I only know of Kip Winger because of this forum. Specifically, I mainly know of Kip Winger from TAC not liking him. What I’ve generally gathered is that Winger was a hair band that made cheesy music and for some reason TAC really doesn’t like them. “Hair band” was enough to make me tune out without ever actually listening to any of the music.
Well, now I’m listening to this playlist of Kip Winger solo music, and it’s… not at all what I was expecting! :lol I mean, I can hear the 80s vibe, but this is presumably not at all the kind of music he played with Winger the band.
So, now that the surprise has worn off, how do I feel about this? Uh… I really like it? The songs are here. Really good, memorable melodies, catchy choruses (particularly Every Story Told), instrumentation that is genuinely tasteful and fitting, even when it’s flute and 80s-sounding keyboards.
The real highlight is Naked Son, which I would not have expected to like just based on the title. This is a really well put-together song, with a great sense of motion of flow from one part to another, and Winger’s vocal performance (I assume it’s his) is really good.
Decision:
TAC, look away.
My clear favorite from this group is Kip Winger. Those songs were all just really good, memorable pieces of music that I always enjoyed listening to.
So, Kip is an amazing musician, even if a lot of the flack for Winger is somewhat deserved. His solo stuff is amazing, and these days he’s mostly focused on classical composition. Some of that is really great, even if that’s not the type of stuff I tend to listen to a lot of. His solo rock albums are excellent though. I didn’t even send you anything from my favorite of his solo stuff, Songs From The Ocean Floor. That one is pretty heavy as he was dealing with the death of his wife. But it is a top 10 album of all time for me (maybe top 5 still, not sure).
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Oh yeah!
HOF: Kip Winger - Every Story Told / Endless Circles / Naked Son
Impression: I had little idea what to expect from this artist, but this is much prettier music than I would have guessed.
Slightly embarrassing confession: I only know of Kip Winger because of this forum. Specifically, I mainly know of Kip Winger from TAC not liking him. What I’ve generally gathered is that Winger was a hair band that made cheesy music and for some reason TAC really doesn’t like them. “Hair band” was enough to make me tune out without ever actually listening to any of the music.
Well, now I’m listening to this playlist of Kip Winger solo music, and it’s… not at all what I was expecting! :lol I mean, I can hear the 80s vibe, but this is presumably not at all the kind of music he played with Winger the band.
So, now that the surprise has worn off, how do I feel about this? Uh… I really like it? The songs are here. Really good, memorable melodies, catchy choruses (particularly Every Story Told), instrumentation that is genuinely tasteful and fitting, even when it’s flute and 80s-sounding keyboards.
The real highlight is Naked Son, which I would not have expected to like just based on the title. This is a really well put-together song, with a great sense of motion of flow from one part to another, and Winger’s vocal performance (I assume it’s his) is really good.
Decision:
TAC, look away.
My clear favorite from this group is Kip Winger. Those songs were all just really good, memorable pieces of music that I always enjoyed listening to.
So, Kip is an amazing musician, even if a lot of the flack for Winger is somewhat deserved. His solo stuff is amazing, and these days he’s mostly focused on classical composition. Some of that is really great, even if that’s not the type of stuff I tend to listen to a lot of. His solo rock albums are excellent though. I didn’t even send you anything from my favorite of his solo stuff, Songs From The Ocean Floor. That one is pretty heavy as he was dealing with the death of his wife. But it is a top 10 album of all time for me (maybe top 5 still, not sure).
And let's not downplay it: whether or not you like WHAT he's singing, that man has a set of pipes.
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Sent what might be my last! :lol
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Decision:
TAC, look away.
My clear favorite from this group is Kip Winger. Those songs were all just really good, memorable pieces of music that I always enjoyed listening to.
Totals:
HOF: 5 points
Buddyhunter1: 4 points
Elite: 3 points
Buddy & Elite, you guys must've sent some absolute suckage.
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Decision:
TAC, look away.
My clear favorite from this group is Kip Winger. Those songs were all just really good, memorable pieces of music that I always enjoyed listening to.
Totals:
HOF: 5 points
Buddyhunter1: 4 points
Elite: 3 points
Buddy & Elite, you guys must've sent some absolute suckage.
Nah, I just sent a fun, barely-dark song that was too "dark" for our host. ;D
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Decision:
TAC, look away.
My clear favorite from this group is Kip Winger. Those songs were all just really good, memorable pieces of music that I always enjoyed listening to.
Totals:
HOF: 5 points
Buddyhunter1: 4 points
Elite: 3 points
Buddy & Elite, you guys must've sent some absolute suckage.
That's actually a group where I rather liked all three and didn't want to have to pick a loser.
Nah, I just sent a fun, barely-dark song that was too "dark" for our host. ;D
So maybe I should clarify: I'm not saying Silent Genesis was too dark. I'm saying that given the fact that I had to choose between two options that both appealed to me but that I didn't have a fully formed perspective on, I ultimately went with the one that connected with me more on an emotional level. In that case it was the more joyful submission, but that may not always be the case when it's a choice between "happy or dark."
And for the record, I went back and forth multiple times on that decision.
Everything for that pool was about which I liked more, not which I didn't like. All three artists from that pool are on my "to visit/revisit after the roulette" list. Which not everything that has been sent is.
Here's the list of all submissions from round 2, ranked very approximately. As I said, I think this was more even in quality than round 1. Most of my favorite submissions so far came from round 1, but so also did most of my least favorites. So there are plenty of close calls here. I'd say the line for "yes, this made me want to investigate the artist further" is around #14.
1. First Aid Kit
2. Mandroid Echostar
3. Ardarith
4. Kip Winger
5. Echolyn
6. Soilwork
7. Borknagar
8. Sufjan Stevens
9. dredg
10. Kingfisher Sky
11. Waylon Jennings
12. Wes Montgomery
13. Pure Reason Revolution
14. Kingcrow
15. The Intersphere
16. Vylet Pony
17. The Pineapple Thief
18. Jakub Zytecki
Five favorite songs (in alphabetical order):
Borknagar - My Domain
Echolyn - On Any Given Nite
First Aid Kit - Stay Gold
Kip Winger - Naked Son
Mandroid Echostar - Rosalia
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Decision:
TAC, look away.
My clear favorite from this group is Kip Winger. Those songs were all just really good, memorable pieces of music that I always enjoyed listening to.
Totals:
HOF: 5 points
Buddyhunter1: 4 points
Elite: 3 points
Buddy & Elite, you guys must've sent some absolute suckage.
Nah, I just sent a fun, barely-dark song that was too "dark" for our host. ;D
You are still shamed. :lol
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You have no idea how tempting it was to put your submission right under Winger in the overall list instead of right above him.
In fact, there's still time for me to edit that post...
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You have no idea how tempting it was to put your submission right under Winger in the overall list instead of right above him.
In fact, there's still time for me to edit that post...
I know you know I' would have love to see this done. :lol
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You have no idea how tempting it was to put your submission right under Winger in the overall list instead of right above him.
(https://c.tenor.com/ZslndNV260AAAAAC/eddie-murphy-delirious.gif)
:lol
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This early in the game, I'm guessing seeding is still mostly a crapshoot. With no fear of elimination, I'm gonna send something slightly riskier, but hopefully you wind up loving it anyway.
Yeah I've gone for something I wouldn't send if I wasn't safe!
You know, with two of us that can't lose, and one that can't win, 425 might just get the wackiest set of entries yet! :biggrin: In fact, since I won round one, and you won round two (if I'm gonna lose a round, it might as well be to the winner :D ), maybe we should tank this round and let Tomi win. Maybe I'll send some depressive suicidal black metal recorded in a grave with a dollar store mic, I'm sure 425 will dig it.
But this is so far seeming possibly prescient...
Pool E:
LithoJazzSphere
soupytwist
Tomislav95
Very Spicy, the group of DEATH for sure. Whoever gets out of this has gotta be the favourite to win the whole thing. ;D
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Maybe I'll send some depressive suicidal black metal recorded in a grave with a dollar store mic, I'm sure 425 will dig it.
I probably wouldn't like that any more than 425, but then again the dollar store mic might not bother me and I mean recorded in a grave? You can't go wrong with that.... :)
Sent for round 3 earlier today after going back and forth for the last couple days as to whether I was sending two or three songs.
Let's have some hangman.
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You can have some hangman as soon as eight of your fellow participants say you can. ;)
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Can I send for them?
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Can you convincingly impersonate submissions from as diverse a cast as King, HOF, Luke and Sacul?
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Definitely Sacul, since he was in my roulette. And the others.... Well I can use the search function.... :)
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Can you convincingly impersonate submissions from as diverse a cast as King, HOF, Luke and Sacul?
Yeah, pretty sure I can find something that sucks. :lol
J/k guys Luke.. ;D
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Winger > TAC
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Winger > TAC
Um..I don't like the way Winger's thingy is pointed towards me. :lol
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I do. With my M-16.
Get it? I sent it to you. Lol
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Oh wait, do I have to send? Thought I was eliminated :justjen
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You're not necessarily eliminated! If you get first, seneca gets second and Lethean gets third, you'll all be tied at 6 points and it goes to a tiebreaker.
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Yea, and get ready to drink!
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Yea, and get ready to drink!
:lol
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You're not necessarily eliminated! If you get first, seneca gets second and Lethean gets third, you'll all be tied at 6 points and it goes to a tiebreaker.
i think this means dacul survives specifically if he outscores seneca, regardless of where lethean places, then
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Yes, thank you. He would make it to a tiebreaker with seneca by outscoring him this round, or survive by getting 1st to his 3rd.
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425, I don't know if you have any insight into this, it might just be one of those capricious nuances of what hits and doesn't, (and I'm not trying to get you to revise your rating) but it's curious how "Old Fuel" from the first round seemed to grow on you, whereas (though you didn't quite specify which of the two) I'm guessing "Mushroom Wall" soured a bit on successive listens. To me, though they're not identical songs, they both have similar purposes for the heavier riffing, where it's relatively simple and isn't really meant to be listened to in isolation, but just serves as a backdrop for all of the other elements in the song to hang off of. I'm just assuming the other elements worked better for you in round one than in two, but it's fascinating to me since you singled out the heavier elements this time, when to me they both serve similar functions in both songs.
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I'm too tired tonight to think clearly, but I'll listen to both songs again tomorrow and try to give some thoughts.
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Have sent!
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Can you convincingly impersonate submissions from as diverse a cast as King, HOF, Luke and Sacul?
Yeah, pretty sure I can find something that sucks. :lol
J/k guys Luke.. ;D
So, what you do every round then?
I'll send today at some point, it's been a busy week
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Tough decisions. I've narrowed it down to three bands, two of which you have been sent before. They're all kind of safe bets in their own way.
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Cool! Glad you liked Wes. The guy was an absolute monster on guitar. Truly an inspiration for tons of musicians. I considered going with something elsr in the jazz vein, but decided to go with something to hopefully have me win the round instead. Sent!
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i haz sent
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Sent!
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425, I've tried sending but your inbox is full of music submissions worse than mine. Let me know when you've cleaned up and I'll resend :tup
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Sorry, wasn't getting notifications so I didn't know the inbox was full. Should be room now.
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Sorry, wasn't getting notifications so I didn't know the inbox was full. Should be room now.
Honestly no dramas dude. Sent now.
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Sent!
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Went to send but mailbox was full
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Should be good now. Once Reaper sends everyone will be in; I'll try to post hangman when I have some time in like 6 hours.
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Sent!
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:corn
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:hat
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Yes
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Patience is rewarded, eventually...
On advice of some of you (Buddyhunter, I think?), I've changed the format of the hangman. The first line of each set is the artist, the lines after each hyphen are song titles by that artist.
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- _ee_
- __te_
- ___
- T_e ____e ____e__e _a_t_ T_ _e T____e_
__a__ _ea__
- _e_____ _______t_
- ____ _eat_e_
- _______
Letters used: E T A
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D
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Press F to pay respects for my score
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A D and an F for "we already have the T so we can spell DTF"
__a_ ________ A_d E__a_ _e____
- ___t___
- __ D_t_e A_ _a_
- F_____t
___at_
- _e__e_e_
- _ _a_t T_ D_e
- Da__e
______ _e____e ___ad_a_t___
- _f _a_ _____d ___e
- _a_a___
- E_a
_a___ A__a_e
- _e__ D_ea____
- ______ _ea_t
- _tate_ _f De_a_
_a_______ ____t
- T_e Fa__
- De_d E______
__ _a_d_t_
- __ _e_ D_a_e_
- _ta__a_e_
- _e__ _e__ __a_e T__e_
_a__e_te_ ___t
- D____ _____ _ta__a
- _______ F__ T_a__ T__
- _e_a__ T_e _ea_t
De_t___ __tat_
- ___d_d ____
- __d_ffe_e_t
- ___t D_ea__
- ____e _f __e_
T___ Te___e
- T_e De___ D_d_t _a_e _e D_ _t
- __ ____e_
- _e_ _a____
_e___f___
- T_e ____ __ _a_f __d_e__ed
- _ _a__a _ta_ ___e
- _e_ __ _e_t F__e_d
_a_e_ E_e_
- _a___ade_
- ______ T_e _______
D__ __a_
- __de_t__
- A_a___ / T_e T_de
- F___a_e_t
- _e__d_a_
___ _e_t_e_ ___t_e__
- Da_ _f _e_______
- F___e__ A_d ___t
- A__a__ _ee_ ____t
A_____
- ___te A__e_
- ___e_e__
- Dead T_ee_
_______
- _a_d___e_
- ___t a __de
F___ _____e_t T_ _a__e_
- A ___t_ T____et
- A_ ____e _f __e_e_t___
____ F_a__
- _ee_
- __te_
- F__
- T_e ____e ____e__e _a_t_ T_ _e T____ed
__a__ _ea__
- _ed____ _______t_
- ___d _eat_e_
- _____d_
Letters used: E T A D F
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S for something.
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Destiny Potato
-Indifferent
There's another song in another grouping called State Of Decay?
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Carpenter Brut
"Disco Zombi Italia"
"Looking For Tracy Tzu"
"Beware the Beast"
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Glass Beach
-Bedroom Community
-Cold Weather
-Orchids
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Destiny Potato
-Indifferent
Lost Dream
House Of Lies
No idea what the first one is, it's not anything from Lun or Sordid Pink so is it some obscure b-side?
Sent by Sacul, I assume.
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Unless Sacul sent Glass Beach...if not..Cyril.
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me? sending glass beach? noway :omg:
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I think I accused you of sending them in whatever last roulette is happening.
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i mean, i sent them in puppies' roulette, yes :lol
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Destiny Potato
-Indifferent
Lost Dream
House Of Lies
No idea what the first one is, it's not anything from Lun or Sordid Pink so is it some obscure b-side?
Sent by Sacul, I assume.
Nope, haven't listened to them in quite a while tho.
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Carpenter Brut
"Disco Zombi Italia"
"Looking For Tracy Tzu"
"Beware the Beast"
Buddy?
I see From Monument to Masses
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Yes, Carpenter Brut is Buddy. And Glass Beach is indeed Cyril.
All song and artist guesses are correct, except that it's States of Decay. I'm accepting it because the S is being revealed this time anyway. I'm told that the other Destiny Potato song is indeed a hard one.
Here's the S.
__a_ _____s__ A_d E__a_ Se____
- ___t___
- __ D_t_e A_ _a_
- F_____t
___at_
- _e__e_e_
- _ _a_t T_ D_e
- Da__e
______ Se____e ___ad_ast___
- _f _a_ S____d ___e
- _a_a___
- E_a
_a__s A__a_e
- _e__ D_ea____
- ______ _ea_t
- States of Decay
_a__s____ ____t
- T_e Fa__
- De_d E__s___
__ _a_d_ts
- __ _e_ D_a_e_
- Sta__a_e_
- _e__ _e__ S_a_e T__e_
Buddyhunter1: Carpenter Brut
- Disco Zombi Italia
- Looking for Tracy Tzu
- Beware the Beast
Destiny Potato
- S__d_d ____
- Indifferent
- Lost Dream
- House of Lies
T___ Te___e
- T_e De___ D_d_t _a_e _e D_ _t
- __ ____e_
- Se_ _a____
_e___f_s_
- T_e ____ _s _a_f __d_essed
- _ _a__a _ta_ ___e
- _e_ __ _e_t F__e_d
_a_e_ E_es
- _a__sades
- ____ss T_e _______
D__ __a_
- __de_t__
- A_a___ / T_e T_de
- F___a_e_t
- _e__d_a_
___ _e_t_e_ ___t_e_s
- Da_ _f _e_______
- F___e_s A_d __st
- A__a_s _ee_ ____t
Anubis
- ___te As_es
- ___e_ess
- Dead Trees
__s____
- _a_d___es
- __st a __de
From Monument to Masses
- A S__t_ T____et
- A_ ____e _f __e_e_t___
___s F_a__
- _ee_
- __te_
- F__
- T_e ____e ____e_se _a_ts T_ _e T____ed
Cyril: Glass Beach
- Bedroom Community
- Cold Weather
- Orchids (Playlist Version)
Letters used: E T A D F S
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just to clarify orchids playlist version is orchids without a minute of silence at the end, it's not an alternate version or anything :lol
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Anubis - Dead Trees
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just to clarify orchids playlist version is orchids without a minute of silence at the end, it's not an alternate version or anything :lol
Good to know! I just go by the song titles I see.
Anubis - Dead Trees
Yes. Edited in.
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Let's have the C.
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The last Destiny Potato song is Sordid Pink? Is that actually a song? I'm confused. :lol
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Those other Anubis songs are 'White Ashes' and 'Homeless'.
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The last Destiny Potato song is Sordid Pink? Is that actually a song? I'm confused. :lol
It's this (https://youtu.be/BEYMiBS5_nk). Sender says:
"Changes" (it says it's self-titled, but it's a brief cover of the Black Sabbath tune, so it's easier to go with that title)
__a_ _____s__ A_d E__a_ Se____
- ___t___
- __ D_t_e A_ _a_
- F_____t
___at_
- _e__e_e_
- _ _a_t T_ D_e
- Da_ce
_____c Se___ce ___adcast___
- _f _a_ S____d C__e
- _a_a___
- E_a
_a__s A__a_e
- _e__ D_ea____
- ______ _ea_t
- States of Decay
_a__s____ ____t
- T_e Fa__
- De_d E__s___
__ _a_d_ts
- __ _e_ D_a_e_
- Sta__a_e_
- _e__ _e__ S_ace T__e_
Buddyhunter1: Carpenter Brut
- Disco Zombi Italia
- Looking for Tracy Tzu
- Beware the Beast
Destiny Potato
- Sordid Pink
- Indifferent
- Lost Dream
- House of Lies
T___ Te___e
- T_e De___ D_d_t _a_e _e D_ _t
- __ ___ce_
- Se_ _a__c_
_e___f_s_
- T_e ____ _s _a_f __d_essed
- _ _a__a _ta_ ___e
- _e_ __ _e_t F__e_d
_a_e_ E_es
- _a__sades
- _c__ss T_e _______
D__ __a_
- __de_t__
- A_a___ / T_e T_de
- F___a_e_t
- _e__d_a_
___ _e_t_e_ ___t_e_s
- Da_ _f _ec______
- F___e_s A_d __st
- A__a_s _ee_ ____t
Anubis
- White Ashes
- Homeless
- Dead Trees
__s____
- _a_d___es
- __st a __de
From Monument to Masses
- A S__t_ T____et
- A_ ___ce _f __e_e_t___
___s F_a__
- _ee_
- __te_
- F__
- T_e ____e ____e_se _a_ts T_ _e T__c_ed
Cyril: Glass Beach
- Bedroom Community
- Cold Weather
- Orchids (Playlist Version)
Letters used: E T A D F S C
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R
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Monument to Masses
-A sixth Trumpet
-An Ounce of Prevention
Sent by reaperKK?
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Yes to both!
Here's the R.
__ar ___r_s__ A_d E__ar Se____
- ___t__r
- __ D_tre A_ _a_
- F_r___t
__rat_
- _e__e_er
- _ _a_t T_ D_e
- Da_ce
_____c Ser__ce _r_adcast___
- _f _ar S____d C__e
- _a_ar__
- E_a
_a__s A__a_e
- _e__ Drea____
- ______ _eart
- States of Decay
_a__s____ ____t
- T_e Fa__
- De_d E__s___
R_ _a_d_ts
- __ _er D_a_er
- Star_a_er
- _e__ _e__ S_ace T__er
Buddyhunter1: Carpenter Brut
- Disco Zombi Italia
- Looking for Tracy Tzu
- Beware the Beast
Destiny Potato
- Sordid Pink
- Indifferent
- Lost Dream
- House of Lies
T___ Te___e
- T_e De___ D_d_t _a_e _e D_ _t
- __ ___ce_
- Se_ _a__c_
_e___f_s_
- T_e ____ _s _a_f __dressed
- _ _a__a _ta_ ___e
- _e_ __ _e_t Fr_e_d
_a_e_ E_es
- _a__sades
- _cr_ss T_e __r____
D__ _ra_
- __dert__
- A_a___ / T_e T_de
- F_r_a_e_t
- _er_d_a_
___ _ert_e_ _r_t_ers
- Da_ _f Rec______
- F___ers A_d R_st
- A__a_s _ee_ R___t
Anubis
- White Ashes
- Homeless
- Dead Trees
R_s____
- _a_d___es
- __st a R_de
ReaperKK: From Monument to Masses
- A Sixth Trumpet
- An Ounce of Prevention
___s Fra__
- _ee_
- __ter
- F__
- T_e ____e ____erse _a_ts T_ _e T__c_ed
Cyril: Glass Beach
- Bedroom Community
- Cold Weather
- Orchids (Playlist Version)
Letters used: E T A D F S C R
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Public Service Broadcasting.
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nils frahm from dacul
rx bandits from luke
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rx bandits from luke
If I remember correctly they scored pretty well in one of your roulettes. Proof that you do actually like some music.
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i mean my entire channel is about the music i like :corn
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The Public Service Broadcasting songs are "If War Should Come", "Gagarin", and "E.V.A."
The band with "States of Decay" is Valis Ablaze, and also has "Neon Dreaming" and "Hollow Heart".
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I'm bad at hangman. Let's have the L.
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The RX Bandits songs are "In Her Drawer", "Stargazer", and "Meow! Meow! Space Tiger".
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Ok you're just looking those up....
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Well, yeah. If this had to be purely from preexisting knowledge this would take eons.
Dim Gray, "Undertow", "Firmament", "Avalon / The Tide", "Firmament", "Meridian".
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I've never heard of any of these bands! :lol
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I know of a little over half of them so far. Part of the fun of this is checking out new artists or giving another chance to ones I'm aware of but not intimately familiar with.
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I've never heard of any of these bands! :lol
I'm so shocked.
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I've never heard of any of these bands! :lol
Me either! :lol
__ar ___r_s__ A_d E__ar Sel___
- ___t__r
- __ D_tre A_ _a_
- F_r___t
__rat_
- _el_e_er
- _ _a_t T_ D_e
- Da_ce
Public Service Broadcasting
- If War Should Come
- Gagarin
- E.V.A.
Valis Ablaze
- Neon Dreaming
- Hollow Heart
- States of Decay
_a__s____ ____t
- T_e Fall
- De_d El_s___
twosuitsluke: RX Bandits
- In Her Drawer
- Stargazer
- Meow! Meow! Space Tiger
Buddyhunter1: Carpenter Brut
- Disco Zombi Italia
- Looking for Tracy Tzu
- Beware the Beast
Destiny Potato
- Sordid Pink
- Indifferent
- Lost Dream
- House of Lies
T___ Te__le
- T_e De__l D_d_t _a_e _e D_ _t
- __ ___ce_
- Se_ _a__c_
_ell_f_s_
- T_e ____ _s _alf __dressed
- _ _a__a _ta_ ___e
- _e_ __ _e_t Fr_e_d
_a_e_ E_es
- _al_sades
- _cr_ss T_e __r____
Dim Gray
- Undertow
- Avalon/The Tide
- Firmament
- Meridian
___ _ert_e_ _r_t_ers
- Da_ _f Rec______
- Fl__ers A_d R_st
- Al_a_s _ee_ R___t
Anubis
- White Ashes
- Homeless
- Dead Trees
R_s_l__
- La_d___es
- __st a R_de
ReaperKK: From Monument to Masses
- A Sixth Trumpet
- An Ounce of Prevention
Sacul: Nils Frahm
- _ee_
- __ter
- F__
- T_e ___le ____erse _a_ts T_ _e T__c_ed
Cyril: Glass Beach
- Bedroom Community
- Cold Weather
- Orchids (Playlist Version)
Letters used: E T A D F S C R L
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Let's have an "O".
Rishloo, "Landmines", "Just a Ride".
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Jellyfish
-The King Is Half Undressed
Rishloo
-Landmines
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13 seconds before you, and with an extra song to boot. :p
The other Jellyfish songs are "I Wanna Stay Home" and "He's My Best Friend".
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Jellyfish is Stadler probably.
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Is Public Broadcasting Service Ariich? Is he even playing in this roulette?
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ariich already won this roulette, we're just playing for second place.
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ariich already won this roulette, we're just playing for second place.
Congrats Ariich! :jamaritard:
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Valis Ablaze sounds like a J-Boy band.
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"Ablaze" was the first word I figured out, it made me think of "Ablaze My Sorrow", so I was half-expecting some blackened melodeath. "Hollow Heart" is a pretty cool tune though, definitely a highlight of the songs I've checked out so far (I'd heard of the band, but not listened to more than a track or two I don't think).
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give me the O for O Gosh It's Been A Bit Since The Last Guess
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Ariich wins, yes, and actually jingle.boy took second place. Congratulations to both of them!
Jellyfish is Stadler.
Here's the O.
__ar __or_so_ A_d E__ar Sel___
- ___t__r
- __ Dotre A_ _a_
- For__ot
__rat_
- _el_e_er
- _ _a_t To D_e
- Da_ce
Public Service Broadcasting
- If War Should Come
- Gagarin
- E.V.A.
Valis Ablaze
- Neon Dreaming
- Hollow Heart
- States of Decay
_a__s____ _o__t
- T_e Fall
- De_d El_s___
twosuitsluke: RX Bandits
- In Her Drawer
- Stargazer
- Meow! Meow! Space Tiger
Buddyhunter1: Carpenter Brut
- Disco Zombi Italia
- Looking for Tracy Tzu
- Beware the Beast
Destiny Potato
- Sordid Pink
- Indifferent
- Lost Dream
- House of Lies
T___ Te__le
- T_e De__l D_d_t _a_e _e Do _t
- __ ___ce_
- Se_ _a__c_
Stadler: Jellyfish
- The King is Half-Undressed
- I Wanna Stay Home
- He’s My Best Friend
_a_e_ E_es
- _al_sades
- _cross T_e _or____
Dim Gray
- Undertow
- Avalon/The Tide
- Firmament
- Meridian
_o_ _ert_e_ _rot_ers
- Da_ of Rec_o____
- Flo_ers A_d R_st
- Al_a_s _ee_ R___t
Anubis
- White Ashes
- Homeless
- Dead Trees
Rishloo
- Landmines
- Just a Ride
ReaperKK: From Monument to Masses
- A Sixth Trumpet
- An Ounce of Prevention
Sacul: Nils Frahm
- _ee_
- __ter
- Fo_
- T_e __ole ____erse _a_ts to _e To_c_ed
Cyril: Glass Beach
- Bedroom Community
- Cold Weather
- Orchids (Playlist Version)
Letters used: E T A D F S C R L O
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Ivar Bjørnson & Einar Selvik
I should check these guys out again, since I love Enslaved so much :corn
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I haven't heard of one single band revealed here. :lol
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I haven't heard of one single band revealed here. :lol
That's a good thing.
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Von Hertzen Brothers
Vanishing Point
The Devil Didn't Make Me Do It
The Fall
Day Of Reckoning
Flowers and Rust
Dance?
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Yeah, almost everyone went pretty obscure this round, which is a bit surprising seeing as I don't have a particularly restrictive banned list. There's one that still hasn't been revealed yet that I feel like most people here have heard of.
All those guesses are right.
Ivar Bjornson and Einar Selvik
- ___t__r
- __ Dotre A_ _a_
- For__ot
__rat_
- _el_e_er
- _ _a_t To D_e
- Dance
Public Service Broadcasting
- If War Should Come
- Gagarin
- E.V.A.
Valis Ablaze
- Neon Dreaming
- Hollow Heart
- States of Decay
Vanishing Point
- T_e Fall
- De_d El_s___
twosuitsluke: RX Bandits
- In Her Drawer
- Stargazer
- Meow! Meow! Space Tiger
Buddyhunter1: Carpenter Brut
- Disco Zombi Italia
- Looking for Tracy Tzu
- Beware the Beast
Destiny Potato
- Sordid Pink
- Indifferent
- Lost Dream
- House of Lies
T___ Te__le
- The Devil (Didn’t Make Me Do It)
- __ ___ce_
- Se_ _a__c_
Stadler: Jellyfish
- The King is Half-Undressed
- I Wanna Stay Home
- He’s My Best Friend
_a_e_ E_es
- _al_sades
- _cross T_e _or____
Dim Gray
- Undertow
- Avalon/The Tide
- Firmament
- Meridian
Von Hertzen Brothers
- Day of Reckoning
- Flowers and Rust
- Al_a_s _ee_ R___t
Anubis
- White Ashes
- Homeless
- Dead Trees
Rishloo
- Landmines
- Just a Ride
ReaperKK: From Monument to Masses
- A Sixth Trumpet
- An Ounce of Prevention
Sacul: Nils Frahm
- _ee_
- __ter
- Fo_
- T_e __ole ____erse _a_ts to _e To_c_ed
Cyril: Glass Beach
- Bedroom Community
- Cold Weather
- Orchids (Playlist Version)
Letters used: E T A D F S C R L O
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I had to go back and see who sent me Rishloo's Landmines in my second roulette, but it was Lordcost.
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The Vanishing Point is Dead Elysium.
There, I helped. :)
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Also I think Nils Frahm is Fog. It could be other things but that's my guess.
And The Whole Universe Wants to be Touched.
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Twin Temple.
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Super Von H Bros. was Elite
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Leaves Eyes.
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I haven't heard of one single band revealed here. :lol
That's a good thing.
Noted. :lol
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Leaves Eyes.
:leaveseyes:
Someone had to do it.... :biggrin:
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Leaves Eyes.
:leaveseyes:
All that and...
It's not Leaves Eyes.
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Leaves Eyes.
:leaveseyes:
All that and...
It's not Leaves Eyes.
:splodetard:
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Alright then how about an N.
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Super Von H Bros. was Elite
How the f did you guess that though? :lol
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Ivar Bjornson & Einar Selvik songs are "WulthuR", "Ni dotre av hav", and "Fornjot".
The other Vanishing point song is "The Fall".
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Super Von H Bros. was Elite
How the f did you guess that though? :lol
(https://i.imgur.com/gfDxgRB.gif)
I am omniscient
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Another Twin Temple song is "Sex Magick". The final one looks to be very hard.
The other Von Hertzen Brothers song is "Always Been Right".
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Also I think Nils Frahm is Fog. It could be other things but that's my guess.
I meant to also point out that this is incorrect. The other guesses have been right. Here are those and the N. I'm also correcting a misplaced letter in the remaining Twin Temple song.
The one I thought would be easiest to guess is still on the board...
Ivar Bjornson and Einar Selvik
- Wulthur
- Ni Dotre av Hav
- Fornjot
__rat_
- _el_e_er
- _ _ant To D_e
- Dance
Public Service Broadcasting
- If War Should Come
- Gagarin
- E.V.A.
Valis Ablaze
- Neon Dreaming
- Hollow Heart
- States of Decay
Vanishing Point
- The Fall
- Dead Elysium
twosuitsluke: RX Bandits
- In Her Drawer
- Stargazer
- Meow! Meow! Space Tiger
Buddyhunter1: Carpenter Brut
- Disco Zombi Italia
- Looking for Tracy Tzu
- Beware the Beast
Destiny Potato
- Sordid Pink
- Indifferent
- Lost Dream
- House of Lies
Twin Temple
- The Devil (Didn’t Make Me Do It)
- __ __c_e_
- Sex Magick
Stadler: Jellyfish
- The King is Half-Undressed
- I Wanna Stay Home
- He’s My Best Friend
Waken Eyes
- Palisades
- Across the Horizon
Dim Gray
- Undertow
- Avalon/The Tide
- Firmament
- Meridian
Elite: Von Hertzen Brothers
- Day of Reckoning
- Flowers and Rust
- Always Been Right
Anubis
- White Ashes
- Homeless
- Dead Trees
Rishloo
- Landmines
- Just a Ride
ReaperKK: From Monument to Masses
- A Sixth Trumpet
- An Ounce of Prevention
Sacul: Nils Frahm
- _ee_
- _nter
- Fo_
- The Whole Universe Wants to Be Touched
Cyril: Glass Beach
- Bedroom Community
- Cold Weather
- Orchids (Playlist Version)
Letters used: E T A D F S C R L O N
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Waken Eyes, "Palisades", "Across the Horizon".
Don't we have a Nils Frahm fan here who'd know where to look? I don't really want to brute-force my way through several dozen of his albums. He has a few pieces I enjoy, but I don't like him that much. :eek
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Yes. Edited in.
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Fox?
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Ok, with the lettering fixed, that should make the final Twin Temple song "I'm Wicked".
Let's take an "I" while we're at it.
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But we've already guessed the D.
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I just noticed that. I'm hoping it's another lettering error, because if not, I'm clueless again.
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I Want to Die for one of the mystery band songs?
And how about an M?
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Myrath, "Believer".
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I just noticed that. I'm hoping it's another lettering error, because if not, I'm clueless again.
It's a lettering error. Since I'm doing this manually, often while busy with other things, you're going to have to generally expect that I'm only about 90% accurate. That song is correct.
Myrath, "Believer".
Finally!
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Did HOF send Rishloo then?
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Nope.
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Update it with the last few guesses?
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There's really only the Nils Frahm songs left, plus guessing who sent what.
The Nils Frahm song with an F is not Fox. And there are no M's or I's to add to them.
Ivar Bjornson and Einar Selvik
- Wulthur
- Ni Dotre av Hav
- Fornjot
Myrath
- Believer
- I Want To Die
- Dance
Public Service Broadcasting
- If War Should Come
- Gagarin
- E.V.A.
Valis Ablaze
- Neon Dreaming
- Hollow Heart
- States of Decay
Vanishing Point
- The Fall
- Dead Elysium
twosuitsluke: RX Bandits
- In Her Drawer
- Stargazer
- Meow! Meow! Space Tiger
Buddyhunter1: Carpenter Brut
- Disco Zombi Italia
- Looking for Tracy Tzu
- Beware the Beast
Destiny Potato
- Sordid Pink
- Indifferent
- Lost Dream
- House of Lies
Twin Temple
- The Devil (Didn’t Make Me Do It)
- I'm Wicked
- Sex Magick
Stadler: Jellyfish
- The King is Half-Undressed
- I Wanna Stay Home
- He’s My Best Friend
Waken Eyes
- Palisades
- Across the Horizon
Dim Gray
- Undertow
- Avalon/The Tide
- Firmament
- Meridian
Elite: Von Hertzen Brothers
- Day of Reckoning
- Flowers and Rust
- Always Been Right
Anubis
- White Ashes
- Homeless
- Dead Trees
Rishloo
- Landmines
- Just a Ride
ReaperKK: From Monument to Masses
- A Sixth Trumpet
- An Ounce of Prevention
Sacul: Nils Frahm
- _ee_
- _nter
- Fo_
- The Whole Universe Wants to Be Touched
Cyril: Glass Beach
- Bedroom Community
- Cold Weather
- Orchids (Playlist Version)
Letters used: E T A D F S C R L O N M I
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Are you sure that none of those songs have a missing letter that's already been guessed?
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I've heard the name Waken Eyes. That's Chad, right?
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Destiny Potato seems like a Romdrums submission
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Myrath-Lonestar
Vanishing Point- J-boy
Valis Ablaze-Wolfking
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Vanishing Point- J-boy
You know you can click on page 1 and see who's actually playing in the roulette, right? :p
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:facepalm:
:lol
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And people mock me about my spelling.
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I've heard the name Waken Eyes. That's Chad, right?
Vanishing Point- J-boy
You know you can click on page 1 and see who's actually playing in the roulette, right? :p
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Are you sure that none of those songs have a missing letter that's already been guessed?
Two of them are basically unsearchable, so no, I'm not sure. Someone guessed Fox, and that's not it.
Vanishing Point- J-boy
You know you can click on page 1 and see who's actually playing in the roulette, right? :p
Actually, Chad sent every unguessed submission. That kind of hustle is why he and Ariich are beating all of you.
Myrath-Lonestar
Vanishing Point- J-boy
Valis Ablaze-Wolfking
And we just found out who's in third place! Congratulations Lonestar!
0/3, which is rather unsurprising since only one of them is actually in the roulette.
Destiny Potato seems like a Romdrums submission
It does sound like one, but it isn't.
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0/3, which is rather unsurprising since only one of them is actually in the roulette.
:rollin
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Are you sure that none of those songs have a missing letter that's already been guessed?
Two of them are basically unsearchable, so no, I'm not sure. Someone guessed Fox, and that's not it.
Could it possibly be For, even though the R has been guessed?
And how about a K for KEEP....
And a U while we're at it.
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The other entries were sent by Revenge319, Deadeye21, nick_z, KevShmev, Zydar, SoundscapeMN, Samsara, The Letter M, and Puppies_On_Acid.
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Tim disease is serious business.
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Are you sure that none of those songs have a missing letter that's already been guessed?
Two of them are basically unsearchable, so no, I'm not sure. Someone guessed Fox, and that's not it.
Could it possibly be For, even though the R has been guessed?
And how about a K for KEEP....
And a U while we're at it.
Keep and For are correct (I cannot be relied upon to always put an R when there's an R). The U gives you the other one, which is Unter.
Here is the hangman with all songs and artists filled in, reorganized to put ones whose senders have not been guessed at the bottom:
twosuitsluke: RX Bandits
- In Her Drawer
- Stargazer
- Meow! Meow! Space Tiger
Buddyhunter1: Carpenter Brut
- Disco Zombi Italia
- Looking for Tracy Tzu
- Beware the Beast
Stadler: Jellyfish
- The King is Half-Undressed
- I Wanna Stay Home
- He’s My Best Friend
Elite: Von Hertzen Brothers
- Day of Reckoning
- Flowers and Rust
- Always Been Right
ReaperKK: From Monument to Masses
- A Sixth Trumpet
- An Ounce of Prevention
Sacul: Nils Frahm
- Keep
- Unter
- For
- The Whole Universe Wants to Be Touched
Cyril: Glass Beach
- Bedroom Community
- Cold Weather
- Orchids (Playlist Version)
Ivar Bjornson and Einar Selvik
- Wulthur
- Ni Dotre av Hav
- Fornjot
Myrath
- Believer
- I Want To Die
- Dance
Public Service Broadcasting
- If War Should Come
- Gagarin
- E.V.A.
Valis Ablaze
- Neon Dreaming
- Hollow Heart
- States of Decay
Vanishing Point
- The Fall
- Dead Elysium
Destiny Potato
- Sordid Pink
- Indifferent
- Lost Dream
- House of Lies
Twin Temple
- The Devil (Didn’t Make Me Do It)
- I'm Wicked
- Sex Magick
Waken Eyes
- Palisades
- Across the Horizon
Dim Gray
- Undertow
- Avalon/The Tide
- Firmament
- Meridian
Anubis
- White Ashes
- Homeless
- Dead Trees
Rishloo
- Landmines
- Just a Ride
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Let's guess my fellow Group E buddies...
Tomislav95 sent Valis Ablaze
Litho sent Anubis
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The other entries were sent by Revenge319, Deadeye21, nick_z, KevShmev, Zydar, SoundscapeMN, Samsara, The Letter M, and Puppies_On_Acid.
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/u6EiPNT9dLDrU7ZQuF/giphy-downsized-large.gif)
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Let's guess my fellow Group E buddies...
Tomislav95 sent Valis Ablaze
Litho sent Anubis
What is Valis Ablaze? ;D
I thought mine would be obvious.
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Let's guess my fellow Group E buddies...
Tomislav95 sent Valis Ablaze
Litho sent Anubis
What is Valis Ablaze? ;D
I thought mine would be obvious.
Rishloo?
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Rishloo?
Yes. Knew you'd know it :P
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Rishloo?
Yes. Knew you'd know it :P
My got to Rishloo guess would always be Evermind, but without him being involved I'd started to draw a blank.
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Is that an Indian dish?
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Rishloo?
Yes. Knew you'd know it :P
My got to Rishloo guess would always be Evermind, but without him being involved I'd started to draw a blank.
I send them often as well.
Is that an Indian dish?
You don't know them? :o
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I do not.
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So when is your next roulette :laugh:
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:lol I'll check them out.
Hmmm...I'll check Landmines right now.
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Wow, that was really interesting and unique. Excellent outro.
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Kings of buildups
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Wow, that was really interesting and unique. Excellent outro.
Landlines is awesome. I got that in my 2nd roulette.
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Landlines is awesome. I got that in my 2nd roulette.
Are you sure? :neverusethis:
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I got it in my roulette and liked it a lot. The rest of the album never really did much for me though.
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I got it in my roulette and liked it a lot. The rest of the album never really did much for me though.
Same.
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I got it in my roulette and liked it a lot. The rest of the album never really did much for me though.
Same.
Ah, that's a shame.
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Litho sent Anubis
Nope. Anubis Gate is on my consideration list, but I don't know that particular neo-prog Anubis.
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First impressions?
I have no idea who sent what. No one else seems to either. Maybe we give some hints?
One of the band members in my submission was once a member of my previous submission.
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That makes yours Ivar Bjornson and Einar Selvik.
Public Service Broadcasting is probably HOF.
Valis Ablaze might be romdrums.
Rishloo might be Tomislav95.
TAC might be Waken Eyes.
Vanishing Point might be wolfking.
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Easy Clue :
Lead singer of mine sounds like Amy Winehouse.
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Sorry I've been less present this round; it's been an insanely busy week at work. I'll try to get some impressions going tomorrow.
That makes yours Ivar Bjornson and Einar Selvik.
Public Service Broadcasting is probably HOF.
Valis Ablaze might be romdrums.
Rishloo might be Tomislav95.
TAC might be Waken Eyes.
Vanishing Point might be wolfking.
5/6 on this one! although Lethean gave a pretty big hint and Tomislav already confirmed his. The one that's wrong is HOF/Public Service Broadcasting.
Now that TAC/Waken Eyes and wolfking/Vanishing Point is revealed, I'd like to point out that each one of them attributed the other's submission to Chad:
I've heard the name Waken Eyes. That's Chad, right?
Vanishing Point- J-boy
:rollin
twosuitsluke: RX Bandits
- In Her Drawer
- Stargazer
- Meow! Meow! Space Tiger
Buddyhunter1: Carpenter Brut
- Disco Zombi Italia
- Looking for Tracy Tzu
- Beware the Beast
Stadler: Jellyfish
- The King is Half-Undressed
- I Wanna Stay Home
- He’s My Best Friend
Elite: Von Hertzen Brothers
- Day of Reckoning
- Flowers and Rust
- Always Been Right
ReaperKK: From Monument to Masses
- A Sixth Trumpet
- An Ounce of Prevention
Sacul: Nils Frahm
- Keep
- Unter
- For
- The Whole Universe Wants to Be Touched
Cyril: Glass Beach
- Bedroom Community
- Cold Weather
- Orchids (Playlist Version)
Lethean: Ivar Bjornson and Einar Selvik
- Wulthur
- Ni Dotre av Hav
- Fornjot
romdrums: Valis Ablaze
- Neon Dreaming
- Hollow Heart
- States of Decay
wolfking: Vanishing Point
- The Fall
- Dead Elysium
TAC: Waken Eyes
- Palisades
- Across the Horizon
Tomislav95: Rishloo
- Landmines
- Just a Ride
Myrath
- Believer
- I Want To Die
- Dance
Public Service Broadcasting
- If War Should Come
- Gagarin
- E.V.A.
Destiny Potato
- Sordid Pink
- Indifferent
- Lost Dream
- House of Lies
Twin Temple
- The Devil (Didn’t Make Me Do It)
- I'm Wicked
- Sex Magick
Dim Gray
- Undertow
- Avalon/The Tide
- Firmament
- Meridian
Anubis
- White Ashes
- Homeless
- Dead Trees
Unguessed participants:
HOF
kingshmegland
LithoJazzoSphere
senecadawg2
soupytwist
Vmadera00
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Based on another roulette, Anubis must be kingshmegland.
Easy Clue :
Lead singer of mine sounds like Amy Winehouse.
Should be Twin Temple.
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Now that TAC/Waken Eyes and wolfking/Vanishing Point is revealed, I'd like to point out that each one of them attributed the other's submission to Chad:
He's in our heads Goddammit! :lol
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Based on another roulette, Anubis must be kingshmegland.
Easy Clue :
Lead singer of mine sounds like Amy Winehouse.
Should be Twin Temple.
You would be correct. I was wondering if someone would make that connection.
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The Anubis and Twin Temple guesses are correct. Reorganizing the list by pool so it takes up less space and we can see the remaining orphans:
Pool A:
Lethean: Ivar Bjornson and Einar Selvik - Wulthur / Ni Dotre av Hav / Fornjot
Sacul: Nils Frahm - Keep / Unter / For / The Whole Universe Wants to Be Touched
senecadawg2: ???
Pool B:
ReaperKK: From Monument to Masses - A Sixth Trumpet / An Ounce of Prevention
twosuitsluke: RX Bandits - In Her Drawer / Stargazer / Meow! Meow! Space Tiger
wolfking: Vanishing Point - The Fall / Dead Elysium
Pool C:
Buddyhunter1: Carpenter Brut - Disco Zombi Italia / Looking for Tracy Tzu / Beware the Beast
Elite: Von Hertzen Brothers - Day of Reckoning / Flowers and Rust / Always Been Right
HOF: ???
Pool D:
kingshmegland: Anubis - White Ashes / Homeless / Dead Trees
Stadler: Jellyfish - The King is Half-Undressed / I Wanna Stay Home / He’s My Best Friend
Vmadera00: ???
Pool E:
LithoJazzoSphere: ???
soupytwist: Twin Temple - The Devil (Didn’t Make Me Do It) / I'm Wicked / Sex Magick
Tomislav95: Rishloo - Landmines / Just a Ride
Pool F:
Cyril: Glass Beach - Bedroom Community / Cold Weather / Orchids (Playlist Version)
romdrums: Valis Ablaze - Neon Dreaming / Hollow Heart / States of Decay
TAC: Waken Eyes - Palisades / Across the Horizon
Myrath
- Believer
- I Want To Die
- Dance
Public Service Broadcasting
- If War Should Come
- Gagarin
- E.V.A.
Destiny Potato
- Sordid Pink
- Indifferent
- Lost Dream
- House of Lies
Dim Gray
- Undertow
- Avalon/The Tide
- Firmament
- Meridian
Now, here are some impressions:
These feel like solid songs, but nothing more. A major factor in that is that this is not a home genre for me, although I’ve gotten a lot of songs that border on it in this roulette.
It’s hard for me to point to any elements or sections that jump out as astonishing, but for some reason I can’t explain, I find it quite compelling.
The most epic-feeling submission I’ve heard all round, which is certainly a good sign.
I really like the atmosphere, but I’m not sure how memorable I’m going to find these as pieces of music.
The key here will be whether this uh, interesting, vocal style grows on me.
This song is right in my comfort zone, and there’s something about it that connects with me on a personal level right away.
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It’s hard for me to point to any elements or sections that jump out as astonishing, but for some reason I can’t explain, I find it quite compelling.
Or
I really like the atmosphere, but I’m not sure how memorable I’m going to find these as pieces of music.
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Got it right on the first guess!
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The most epic-feeling submission I’ve heard all round, which is certainly a good sign.
If this isn't mine, then I'm not in this batch. ;D
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Which one? Lol
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mine is either one of these six or one of the others left
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Which one? Lol
The first one:
It’s hard for me to point to any elements or sections that jump out as astonishing, but for some reason I can’t explain, I find it quite compelling.
The most epic-feeling submission I’ve heard all round, which is certainly a good sign.
If this isn't mine, then I'm not in this batch. ;D
Also correct! Am I making these easier, or are y'all getting better at guessing? :lol
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mine is either one of these six or one of the others left
Wow, a third correct guess. Truly incredible.
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mine is either one of these six or one of the others left
Wow, a third correct guess. Truly incredible.
Can't get anything past Cyril. :neverusethis:
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I like that!! Sweet!
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Am I making these easier
I think the small batches helps.
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I like that Sweet!
You like anything sweet.
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I like that Sweet!
You like anything sweet.
Like that's bad. Lol
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Guessing this (or at least that’s kind of what I was going for. Maybe someone out-epic’d me):
“The most epic-feeling submission I’ve heard all round, which is certainly a good sign.”
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It’s hard for me to point to any elements or sections that jump out as astonishing, but for some reason I can’t explain, I find it quite compelling.
Or
I really like the atmosphere, but I’m not sure how memorable I’m going to find these as pieces of music.
See, I was going to post these two as possibly mine. But you got it right, so only one can be.
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Myrath - HOF
Destinity Potato - Litho
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Mine could be in your comfort zone, but it's hard to say
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Myrath - HOF
Destinity Potato - Litho
The second one is right, the first one isn't.
No one post-TAC is right about their impressions.
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Seneca - Myrath
HOF - Destiny Potato
Which gives away mine :)
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No one post-TAC is right about their impressions.
So I’m right and everyone else is wrong! :lol
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No one post-TAC is right about their impressions.
So I’m right and everyone else is wrong! :lol
Ahem! :lol
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Seneca - Myrath
HOF - Destiny Potato
Which gives away mine :)
Myrath is seneca, but I just told you that Destiny Potato is Litho!
So we've added:
Litho = Destiny Potato
seneca = Myrath
But we still need answers on Vmadera and HOF. Obviously one of the two of you can just tell us, or someone else can guess.
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Seneca - Myrath
HOF - Destiny Potato
Which gives away mine :)
Myrath is seneca, but I just told you that Destiny Potato is Litho!
So we've added:
Litho = Destiny Potato
seneca = Myrath
But we still need answers on Vmadera and HOF. Obviously one of the two of you can just tell us, or someone else can guess.
Sorry brain fart :|
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Lets just say I’ve never heard of Destiny Potato before (or Myrath for that matter).
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HOF = Public Service Broadcasting. That means Vmadera00 has to be Dim Gray.
I'd have thought Myrath would have been the most known band of this round since they're sort of a spiritual successor to Orphaned Land in ways, with #2 going to Destiny Potato, Carpenter Brut, or Jellyfish. Based on older threads, I think DP may have been a bit more known here a few years ago and has fallen off. Carpenter Brut is probably the second biggest darksynth artist after Perturbator since they have a lot of metal influences, but if you don't pay any attention at all to that scene you could have overlooked them. I associate Jellyfish with SoundscapeMN, but of course he's not in this round, and maybe he hasn't promoted them as much recently. Then maybe Rishloo would be next most known, but perhaps they're forgotten because you're not allowed to have that sound these days unless you're Australian. :laugh:
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I really like the atmosphere, but I’m not sure how memorable I’m going to find these as pieces of music.
:corn
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Don't think mine are in those submissions.
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HOF = Public Service Broadcasting. That means Vmadera00 has to be Dim Gray.
Wrong! Which means...
Pool A:
Lethean: Ivar Bjornson and Einar Selvik - Wulthur / Ni Dotre av Hav / Fornjot
Sacul: Nils Frahm - Keep / Unter / For / The Whole Universe Wants to Be Touched
senecadawg2: Myrath - Believer / I Want To Die / Dance
Pool B:
ReaperKK: From Monument to Masses - A Sixth Trumpet / An Ounce of Prevention
twosuitsluke: RX Bandits - In Her Drawer / Stargazer / Meow! Meow! Space Tiger
wolfking: Vanishing Point - The Fall / Dead Elysium
Pool C:
Buddyhunter1: Carpenter Brut - Disco Zombi Italia / Looking for Tracy Tzu / Beware the Beast
Elite: Von Hertzen Brothers - Day of Reckoning / Flowers and Rust / Always Been Right
HOF: Dim Gray - Undertow / Avalon/The Tide / Firmament / Meridian
Pool D:
kingshmegland: Anubis - White Ashes / Homeless / Dead Trees
Stadler: Jellyfish - The King is Half-Undressed / I Wanna Stay Home / He’s My Best Friend
Vmadera00: Public Service Broadcasting - If War Should Come / Gagarin / E.V.A.
Pool E:
LithoJazzoSphere: Destiny Potato - Sordid Pink / Indifferent / Lost Dream / House of Lies
soupytwist: Twin Temple - The Devil (Didn’t Make Me Do It) / I'm Wicked / Sex Magick
Tomislav95: Rishloo - Landmines / Just a Ride
Pool F:
Cyril: Glass Beach - Bedroom Community / Cold Weather / Orchids (Playlist Version)
romdrums: Valis Ablaze - Neon Dreaming / Hollow Heart / States of Decay
TAC: Waken Eyes - Palisades / Across the Horizon
I'd have thought Myrath would have been the most known band of this round since they're sort of a spiritual successor to Orphaned Land in ways, with #2 going to Destiny Potato, Carpenter Brut, or Jellyfish. Based on older threads, I think DP may have been a bit more known here a few years ago and has fallen off. Carpenter Brut is probably the second biggest darksynth artist after Perturbator since they have a lot of metal influences, but if you don't pay any attention at all to that scene you could have overlooked them. I associate Jellyfish with SoundscapeMN, but of course he's not in this round, and maybe he hasn't promoted them as much recently. Then maybe Rishloo would be next most known, but perhaps they're forgotten because you're not allowed to have that sound these days unless you're Australian. :laugh:
My perception are that Myrath is the best-known band this round, followed by Rishloo. I get the sense that Jellyfish were somewhat well-known in their day, but I personally have only heard about them from MP and DTF.
The other ones I can remember hearing about outside of DTF would be Destiny Potato and Anubis.
Ones I'd never heard of at all before the roulette: Ivar Bjørnson and Einar Selvik, RX Bandits, From Monuments to Masses, Carpenter Brut, Dim Gray, Public Service Broadcasting, Twin Temple, Valis Ablaze, Waken Eyes.
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I'm surprised that no one has heard of Waken Eyes. I thought there were a lot of Marco Minneman fans here.
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My perception are that Myrath is the best-known band this round, followed by Rishloo. I get the sense that Jellyfish were somewhat well-known in their day, but I personally have only heard about them from MP and DTF.
I was just talking about on this forum. Outside of here it's easily Nils Frahm and Carpenter Brut. Nils has around 1.5 million monthly Spotify listeners (probably a lot of those are just because he composes for films, shows, documentaries and such, not that they all are listening specifically knowing it's him), and CB around 850k. By comparison Rishloo only has 80k, and most others in this round have much less.
I'm surprised that no one has heard of Waken Eyes. I thought there were a lot of Marco Minneman fans here.
I'd consider myself one of them, but not really a superfan. He's worked with probably at least 50 different bands, and they're not one I'd checked out until a few days ago.
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Don't think it counts towards how popular they are but I've shared beer with 2 (of the 3) Von Hertzen Brothers.
Jellyfish popularity is very similar to Neutral Milk Hotel, two albums that didn't make many waves at the time of release but have gained cult and influential status since.
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My perception are that Myrath is the best-known band this round, followed by Rishloo. I get the sense that Jellyfish were somewhat well-known in their day, but I personally have only heard about them from MP and DTF.
I was just talking about on this forum. Outside of here it's easily Nils Frahm and Carpenter Brut. Nils has around 1.5 million monthly Spotify listeners (probably a lot of those are just because he composes for films, shows, documentaries and such, not that they all are listening specifically knowing it's him), and CB around 850k. By comparison Rishloo only has 80k, and most others in this round have much less.
I thought maybe I'd heard of Nils Frahm before, but couldn't remember if it was DTF or non-DTF. Absolutely never heard of Carpenter Brut. What I was listing was how well-known they seemed to me, in my own experience, but I meant to put an asterisk on it to the effect that there are whole genres of music I know essentially nothing about.
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Carpenter Brut sounds like an aftershave a blue collar worker would use.
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Not sure what the "Brut" refers to (the main guy is French), but "Carpenter" probably refers to John Carpenter.
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(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Dr8AAOSw5lZhxKiP/s-l400.jpg)
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:corn
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It's hard to keep track of what has and hasn't been guessed yet, but just to keep things going, is this one mine?
"It’s hard for me to point to any elements or sections that jump out as astonishing, but for some reason I can’t explain, I find it quite compelling"
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It's hard to keep track of what has and hasn't been guessed yet, but just to keep things going, is this one mine?
"It’s hard for me to point to any elements or sections that jump out as astonishing, but for some reason I can’t explain, I find it quite compelling"
No, that one is King's.
Here are six more:
Not a lot of frills here, but songwriting that strikes me as uncommonly strong.
I just love these sweeping, emotional melodies.
My initial impression of this song is that I find it pretty interesting, but I’ve definitely experienced that before with music of a similar style that has failed to hold my interest long-term.
You can call it a gimmick, but I find it interesting and, at times, compelling. Helps that the music is otherwise rock solid.
Very, very catchy metal. And definitely in a good way.
Wonderful atmosphere created here by a combination of the music and vocal style.
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Let’s try this one:
“ I just love these sweeping, emotional melodies.”
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Mine might be the gimmick one?
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HOF is correct, soupy is not.
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HOF is correct, soupy is not.
:tup
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HOF is correct, soupy is not.
:tup
:tdwn
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Very, very catchy metal. And definitely in a good way.
Hoping mine is this one, or is in the next set.
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It's hard to keep track of what has and hasn't been guessed yet, but just to keep things going, is this one mine?
"It’s hard for me to point to any elements or sections that jump out as astonishing, but for some reason I can’t explain, I find it quite compelling"
No, that one is King's.
Here are six more:
Not a lot of frills here, but songwriting that strikes me as uncommonly strong.
I just love these sweeping, emotional melodies.
My initial impression of this song is that I find it pretty interesting, but I’ve definitely experienced that before with music of a similar style that has failed to hold my interest long-term.
You can call it a gimmick, but I find it interesting and, at times, compelling. Helps that the music is otherwise rock solid.
Very, very catchy metal. And definitely in a good way.
Wonderful atmosphere created here by a combination of the music and vocal style.[/i]
Mine has to be one of these? Thinking the first one?
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Mine might be the "catchy metal" one, but I can't say for sure.
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i'll be honest part of the reason i'm not really guessing is bcuz the impressions posts aren't being updated when people correctly guess theirs so i can't tell what's actually left :lol
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Sorry, I'd forgotten that this was a thing people did. I'll repost all the first two buckets of impressions with it noted when they've been guessed correctly. The third set will come tonight along with possibly some results.
These feel like solid songs, but nothing more. A major factor in that is that this is not a home genre for me, although I’ve gotten a lot of songs that border on it in this roulette.
It’s hard for me to point to any elements or sections that jump out as astonishing, but for some reason I can’t explain, I find it quite compelling. (Anubis)
The most epic-feeling submission I’ve heard all round, which is certainly a good sign. (Waken Eyes)
I really like the atmosphere, but I’m not sure how memorable I’m going to find these as pieces of music. (Nils Frahm)
The key here will be whether this uh, interesting, vocal style grows on me. (Glass Beach)
This song is right in my comfort zone, and there’s something about it that connects with me on a personal level right away.
Not a lot of frills here, but songwriting that strikes me as uncommonly strong.
I just love these sweeping, emotional melodies. (Dim Gray)
My initial impression of this song is that I find it pretty interesting, but I’ve definitely experienced that before with music of a similar style that has failed to hold my interest long-term.
You can call it a gimmick, but I find it interesting and, at times, compelling. Helps that the music is otherwise rock solid. (Public Service Broadcasting)
Very, very catchy metal. And definitely in a good way.
Wonderful atmosphere created here by a combination of the music and vocal style.
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Me?
My initial impression of this song is that I find it pretty interesting, but I’ve definitely experienced that before with music of a similar style that has failed to hold my interest long-term.
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Nope!
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...yeah even with these, i dunno :lol
"interesting" vocal style? i don't think the vocals on mine are that... out there, but
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My initial impression of this song is that I find it pretty interesting, but I’ve definitely experienced that before with music of a similar style that has failed to hold my interest long-term.
You can call it a gimmick, but I find it interesting and, at times, compelling. Helps that the music is otherwise rock solid.
One of those two?
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Wonderful atmosphere created here by a combination of the music and vocal style.[/i]
Maybe mine?
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...yeah even with these, i dunno :lol
"interesting" vocal style? i don't think the vocals on mine are that... out there, but
"Interesting" doesn't have to mean out there! That one is yours.
My initial impression of this song is that I find it pretty interesting, but I’ve definitely experienced that before with music of a similar style that has failed to hold my interest long-term.
You can call it a gimmick, but I find it interesting and, at times, compelling. Helps that the music is otherwise rock solid.
One of those two?
Yes, the second one.
Wonderful atmosphere created here by a combination of the music and vocal style.[/i]
Maybe mine?
Nope.
Editing these into the previous post. Here are the rest:
I’m going continue to give this an honest try, but my guess right now is that I’m going to be writing another version of a writeup I’ve done a few times now.
This borrows elements from a sub-sub-genre that usually leaves me cold, and turns it into something I find rather promising.
The vocals are certainly more of a highlight than I was expecting them to be.
I find their high energy style charming, even while not yet being taken by any one of the songs.
The first song here, at least, is not for me.
This feels like a well-done novelty, but I personally have a hard time imagining it ever entering my regular listening.
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This borrows elements from a sub-sub-genre that usually leaves me cold, and turns it into something I find rather promising.
The vocals are certainly more of a highlight than I was expecting them to be.
Hoping for one of these two.
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One of the last two of batch three.
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None of the impressions that could be mine leave me feeling anything but nervous :lol
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This borrows elements from a sub-sub-genre that usually leaves me cold, and turns it into something I find rather promising.
The vocals are certainly more of a highlight than I was expecting them to be.
Hoping for one of these two.
The second one.
One of the last two of batch three.
Also the second one.
Folks, I'm really sorry about how slow this round has gone. It's been a busy time for me and I want to give all your submissions the time they deserve. Hopefully the pace will pick back up as I leave this crazy period at work and the pool of participants goes down from 18 to 12. I really genuinely will post at least the first set of results tomorrow.
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I can't speak for anyone else, but for me, no need to apologize. It is what it is. I just wish I was better at guessing the impressions! :)
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Thanks, Stadler!
Here's the first set of results, covering two pools. My aim is to get a couple more done tomorrow.
Pool A:
Lethean: Ivar Bjørnson & Einar Selvik - Wulthur / Ni Døtre Av Hav / Fornjot
Impression: Wonderful atmosphere created here by a combination of the music and vocal style.
As the impression suggests, I am struck by the atmosphere of these songs. This is, I suppose, a brand of folk music, and it presents an incredibly strong sense of an atmosphere that I could only describe as Nordic. This would be true, I think, based on the instrumentation alone, but the vocal style and melodies contribute even further to this sense, particularly on Ni Døtre Av Hav—and not just because the lyrics are in Norwegian.
I also like how, although the atmosphere is definitely front and center, there are still some memorable melodies, such as the main refrain of Fornjot. It will probably take me longer to internalize these melodies than usual because the language is very unfamiliar to me, but I can tell they are there.
So, how do I actually feel about this atmosphere? There’s definitely a mournful aspect to it, but I don’t find it to be altogether bleak. I am drawn to it in a certain way, in a certain mood. I feel like this is music that I wouldn’t want to listen to all the time, but on occasion, could really sink into. Definitely very well done, and definitely caught my attention.
Sacul: Nils Frahm - Keep / Unter / For / The Whole Universe Wants to Be Touched
Impression: I really like the atmosphere, but I’m not sure how memorable I’m going to find these as pieces of music.
Another submission on which the emphasis is atmosphere. I do really like the calm atmosphere he captures on these pieces. However, it’s a mixed case whether there’s much I catch onto and find interesting in the way of composition. I know some people really like a great atmosphere for its own sake in music, but while that’s something I can appreciate, I’ve found I need something more that I find interesting. And a lot of times on these songs, I don’t find much interest in anything beyond the atmosphere.
For is the song here that provides the most in that regard. There’s a main idea that evolves through a few different manifestations over the course of the piece. It’s definitely my favorite of these four. But something like Unter, on the other hand, while pleasant-sounding, doesn’t draw me in.
senecadawg2: Myrath - Believer / I Want to Die / Dance
I’ve heard maybe… one or two Myrath songs before? For one reason or another, they didn’t make a strong impression at the time, although of course I know that this is a fairly popular artist within my corner of metal. These three tracks are a lot of fun. All of them are super catchy, with the type of anthemic choruses I always want to hear. I haven’t spent a ton of time listening to eastern-infused metal, but it’s a sound that I certainly find interesting, having enjoyed the latest Orphaned Land album quite a bit. These songs have more of a symphonic element to their sound, which I think generally works. That said, if anything negative can be said, it’s that sometimes it feels like they lose a little of their heaviness from the guitars being low in the mix relative to the orchestration.
I think this is a case where there’s an advantage to having three songs, even though there isn’t a huge stylistic variety among them. With this sort of catchy metal, there’s always a question for me of whether I like to hear just the one song on its own, or whether I would enjoy listening to multiple of the artist’s songs in a row, because that’s the difference between a song I listen to from time to time, and an artist I delve into. Myrath has definitely passed the test.
Decision:
This pool falls out into a pretty easy one-two-three this time. While there are things I liked about the music, the Nils Frahm submission was the least appealing to me because it’s just not focused on the things that draw me into a piece of music. And the Myrath was the most appealing; I had a lot of fun with it, enjoyed all three songs, and can most easily see them joining my regular stable of artists. The Bjørnson/Selvik tracks were interesting to me, too, and I certainly enjoyed them, but it’s one of those cases where time will tell whether I keep coming back to them.
senecadawg2/Myrath: 3 points
Lethean/Ivar Bjørnson & Einar Selvik: 2 points
Sacul/Nils Frahm: 1 point
Totals:
Lethean: 7 points
senecadawg2: 7 points
Sacul: 4 points
With that, Sacul is eliminated from the roulette, while seneca and Lethean will advance to the next round. Sacul, I imagine this is a disappointment, but I think we’ve both known that your tastes and mine have grown further apart over the years since you tied for second in my first roulette. I'm still always glad to have you on board when I do a roulette. In so much of what you sent me, I can recognize the quality, but for a lot of it, I have to say it’s just not for me. The Sufjan material does make me want too listen more to him, maybe expand beyond Illinois, which is the only album I know well.
Pool C:
Buddyhunter1: Carpenter Brut - Disco Zombi Italia / Looking for Tracy Tzu / Beware the Beast
Impression: The first song here, at least, is not for me.
Electronic music is a dicey prospect for sending to me, because a substantial portion of it I outright dislike, an additional substantial portion I find uninteresting, and then a portion I actually like and find interesting.
The first song here, Disco Zombi Italia, definitely falls into the second category. Nothing offensive about it, but it honestly feels like most of the song is devoted to one progression which I don’t find particularly engaging. The second one is a little more interesting, with some progressions I liked, and others that left me cold. Beware the Beast is the most interesting one for me, with a good chorus and an interesting blend of the electronic and rock elements. That said, the vocalist is definitely not for me, and the song doesn’t connect with me on a deeper level than “that was kind of fun and catchy.”
Elite: Von Hertzen Brothers - Day of Reckoning / Flowers and Rust / Always Been Right
Impression: I find their high energy style charming, even while not yet being taken by any one of the songs.
Sometimes an artist strikes me first and foremost as just pure fun to listen to. That’s been my experience listening to the Von Hertzen Brothers. A lot of elements that I enjoy, like the main repeated guitar part of Always Been Right or the chorus of Flowers and Rust. If any of these is going to get me deeper into the band, it’s probably Always Been Right. That’s the one that really embodies the infectious energy I mention in the impression, and I’m coming to like it quite well… although I’m not crazy about the sound on the solo.
The open question is whether this band will connect with me on a deeper level. That wasn’t my initial impression, but the more I’ve listened to them, the more these songs have started to open themselves up to me.
HOF: Dim Gray - Undertow / Avalon/The Tide / Firmament / Meridian
Impression: I just love these sweeping, emotional melodies.
HOF suggested when I posted impressions that the “most epic submission of the round” line could apply to this set of songs. And I think there’s a lot of merit to that, though it was actually written about a different submission. I do find this music grand, even though it’s not super heavy or bombastic. It’s actually pretty quiet and calm on the whole, with some moments of intensity.
No, it’s really the melodies that make these songs grand. These are often really emotional, particularly on Firmament, which is a truly beautiful song. Meridian is also very good in this regard.
This music appeals to me pretty strongly, even though I don’t often go for material in this style. It’s hard to say exactly what the longevity of it will be in my rotation, but my initial impression is very positive.
Decision:
Another case where the decision shakes out rather clearly and easily for me. Dim Gray was the one that really captivated my interest and delivered a lot of material that I really enjoyed. Von Hertzen Brothers was the one that I enjoyed, but didn’t become completely fascinated by. And Carpenter Brut was, on the whole, not for me.
HOF/Dim Gray: 3 points
Elite/Von Hertzen Brothers: 2 points
Buddyhunter1/Carpenter Brut: 1 point
Totals:
HOF: 8 points
Buddyhunter1: 5 points
Elite: 5 points
HOF advances to the next round. The first tiebreaker, as I announced earlier, is that I rank all the submissions from both people in sequence and the higher average score advances.
My favorite submission from these two from all rounds was VOLA. Inside Your Fur is my favorite song from either person, and I found the other two songs pretty good as well. Last place is certainly Carpenter Brut, which was almost wholly not for me. King Crimson goes just above it, since I found Fallen Angel interesting.
What’s ultimately going to decide it, then, is the placement of the middle three: Pure Reason Revolution, Von Hertzen Brothers and Wes Montgomery. I already ranked Wes Montgomery a hair ahead of PRR in round 2, and I’m not going back on that decision. So the question is where VHB fits in amongst them. I actually went back and listened to VHB and PRR back to back. I enjoy them both, for different reasons: the beautiful vocals of PRR and the emotion of Beyond Our Bodies, and the fun energy of VHB. But I think on the strength of Beyond Our Bodies, and on the fact that Silent Genesis is starting to open up for me, I have to give PRR the nod. The final ranking looks like:
1. VOLA (Buddyhunter)
2. Wes Montgomery (Elite)
3. Pure Reason Revolution (Buddyhunter)
4. Von Hertzen Brothers (Elite)
5. King Crimson (Elite)
6. Carpenter Brut (Buddyhunter)
That’s an average ranking of 3.67 for Elite and 3.33 for Buddyhunter, which makes Buddy the winner by the narrowest possible margin! Elite, sorry to see you go. I know this is a tough break, but you did manage to get me interested in jazz and may yet have gotten me into Von Hertzen Brothers. I was glad to have you in this, as always.
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Sorry Elite. :lol
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Sweet!
That Dim Gray album is going to be a strong contender for my album of the year. The singer is remarkable, and definitely brings a lot of emotion to the songs. Glad you liked it, and I’d be interested to know your thoughts if you check out the full album.
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I just saw Wardruna tonight. Einar Selvik is in Wardruna. I was hoping that would somehow mean I'd come back to good (or I guess any) results. And it worked! :)
Wardruna was awesome btw.
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Sacul, I imagine this is a disappointment
Can't be disappointed if I was expecting nothing to begin with :neverusethis:
But seriously, thanks for having me! I knew I wouldn't get too far so I tried while I could. Def give A Beginner's Mind a listen, wonderful album.
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Sent for the next round!
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So, how do I actually feel about this atmosphere? There’s definitely a mournful aspect to it, but I don’t find it to be altogether bleak...I know some people really like a great atmosphere for its own sake in music, but while that’s something I can appreciate, I’ve found I need something more that I find interesting.
I have a growing list of stuff I should only send if I want to tank future rounds, music that is both bleak and atmosphere-focused. :lol
Carpenter Brut is my favorite artist of the whole round (other than my own), and I'd have preferred a different set of songs, but I don't know if they'd have fared any better.
Wardruna was awesome btw.
I've listened to a little bit of their stuff, but need to hear more. Some artists I really love cite them as a heavy influence, so I owe it to them.
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Aahw! At least I got second place in the last round, they almost did me well enough to advance. Thanks for having me :)
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Awesome!
Glad you enjoyed Myrath. It felt like a safe choice; if anything, part of me wondered whether it might be a touch too safe. I also want to shout out Sufjan Stevens's Carrie & Lowell, since you mentioned exploring him further. That album is one of my all time favorites. I really can't recommend it highly enough.
I think I know what artist I'll be sending next, but I'll hold off on sending until the rest of the results and next groups are determined.
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Awesome!
Glad you enjoyed Myrath. It felt like a safe choice; if anything, part of me wondered whether it might be a touch too safe. I also want to shout out Sufjan Stevens's Carrie & Lowell, since you mentioned exploring him further. That album is one of my all time favorites. I really can't recommend it highly enough.
I think I know what artist I'll be sending next, but I'll hold off on sending until the rest of the results and next groups are determined.
I don't want to say there's no such thing as too safe, but I'll just say that I'm not one of those people who experiences a need to constantly expand into styles of music that are radically different from ones I know. There are a lot of names I hear about that are right in my wheelhouse, and I appreciate roulette submissions as a way of helping me identify which of those I consider worthy of investing more time.
I did listen to Carrie & Lowell once or twice when it came out. I remember thinking it was quite good but quite emotionally intense.
Sacul, I imagine this is a disappointment
Can't be disappointed if I was expecting nothing to begin with :neverusethis:
But seriously, thanks for having me! I knew I wouldn't get too far so I tried while I could. Def give A Beginner's Mind a listen, wonderful album.
You're welcome! Thanks for the recommendation!
Aahw! At least I got second place in the last round, they almost did me well enough to advance. Thanks for having me :)
You're welcome! It was such a close call.
Sweet!
That Dim Gray album is going to be a strong contender for my album of the year. The singer is remarkable, and definitely brings a lot of emotion to the songs. Glad you liked it, and I’d be interested to know your thoughts if you check out the full album.
I'll let you know if I end up checking it out!
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Sorry Elite. :lol
:lol This is pretty much what I was thinking writing it up!
Here are two more pools, D and E. Fingers crossed that I can do the rest tomorrow!
Pool D:
kingshmegland: Anubis - White Ashes / Homeless / Dead Trees
I think my first impression nailed how I still feel about these songs. This band is not doing anything that I point to and say “that one part or aspect was highly impressive,” but the whole picture is really, really good, and definitely greater than the sum of its parts. On all three songs, they just create a nice mood and flow nicely and cohesively from one very good part to another.
Of the three songs, my favorite is definitely Dead Trees. The “Night after night” chorus brings a nice burst of energy whenever it comes in, and I really like that melody. And then there’s a really good buildup in the second half of the song. This is one of the top songs of the round.
This whole submission feels like it has the potential to be a massive grower. This is a band that I’m definitely interested in spending a more extended stretch of time with.
Stadler: Jellyfish - The King Is Half-Undressed / I Wanna Stay Home / He’s My Best Friend
I stand by my impression: I think the songwriting here is really good. All three of these songs are catchy, but the first two in particular also have some depth to them. I definitely enjoy both of those songs, particularly The King Is Half-Undressed. The third one has more of a tongue-in-cheek humorous vibe in both the music and lyrics. I think it carries it off pretty well, though this sort of approach is generally not my thing.
I would say I enjoyed these submissions enough to interest me in hearing more from this band. I’m not absolutely blown away, but I always enjoyed listening to them.
Vmadera00: Public Service Broadcasting - If War Should Come / Gagarin / E.V.A.
I find the concept here—prog-adjacent instrumental music with a lot of samples from radio broadcasts about historic events—completely fascinating. I like reading about and listening to podcasts about history, so this feeds into a real interest of mine.
But if it was just that, it would be an interesting novelty. Beyond the distinctive concept, I think the music is really quite good in its own right. If War Should Come has a strong buildup, Gagarin is infectiously groovy, and E.V.A. has an atmosphere that is really well-calibrated to the samples. I really like the part where the music just slows way down at the point when the spacewalk begins.
I had a great time with all of these songs. I thought the music and samples complemented each other well, and both were really interesting to me.
Decision:
This is a really tough choice. I like all three submissions here at least pretty well; all would be in the top half of all entries for this round. I think, on the whole, my least favorite of the three will end up being Jellyfish. I liked all these songs, but the mood of them didn’t speak to me quite as much as the other two. The choice between Public Service Broadcasting and Anubis is really close, since I find both artists quite appealing and enjoyed all three songs from both. In the end, I think the deciding factor is that Dead Trees was my favorite song from either artist. So by a narrow margin, I’m going to give the round win to Anubis.
kingshmegland/Anubis: 3 points
Vmadera00/Public Service Broadcasting: 2 points
Stadler/Jellyfish: 1 point
Totals:
kingshmegland: 9 points
Vmadera00: 5 points
Stadler: 4 points
King goes perfect on the first three rounds and advances to round 4, along with Vmadera!
Stadler is eliminated. This is a tough one for me to see, not only because it was on a really strong and really close round, but because I feel like Stadler and I see eye-to-eye on a lot of how we approach music and on what we like about some of our favorite artists (Iron Maiden and Neal Morse most notably). We just haven’t connected as well in my roulettes, for some reason or another. I still really appreciate you playing and introducing me to a wide variety of artists in these three rounds!
Pool E:
LithoJazzoSphere: Destiny Potato - Sordid Pink (Changes) / Indifferent / Lost Dream / House of Lies
So, I’m actually pretty familiar with some of David Maxim Micic’s solo stuff. I listened to Bilo 3.0 plenty of times a few years ago, thanks to really liking several of the songs on that album—mainly, Wrinkle Maze and Daydreamers. I also listened to Ego and Eco a few times each, but I never got around to the rest of his catalog or any Destiny Potato at all. That’s mainly because of my limited interest in djent and in instrumental music. I also was not particularly a fan of the vocal style one of his collaborators used at times—I’m referring to the female vocalist on Smile.
Well, years later, coming to Destiny Potato for the first time, I’m not only enjoying it, but finding more of the elements I liked from DMM and fewer of those that were less interesting to me. Here we definitely get vocal-centric songs with a pretty epic sound and a structure focused on powerful clean female vocals. This draws me to the short Sabbath cover and the first two pieces following it. House of Lies is a beautiful little song in its own right—a pretty emotional piece that starts out as a piano ballad and launches into a strong heavier section to close.
It’s pretty clear that I was wrong to sleep on Destiny Potato so long. It’s more of the side I like from an artist I previously enjoyed.
soupytwist: Twin Temple - The Devil Didn’t Make Me Do It / I’m Wicked / Sex Magick
This music is certainly well done. I find it interesting in certain ways, and it’s definitely quite catchy at times. But I think it’s ultimately a miss just on considerations of personal taste alone. I mean, it’s going for something rather quirky: “Satanic doo-wop.” For those who are interested in that musical style and/or particularly like more-or-less playful presentations of Satan in music, I can imagine this being a real hit.
But those just aren’t interests of mine. I could see myself getting into the musical style itself, potentially, but it’s not a style that I feel quite goes with Satanism, personally. And Satanic elements in music are generally just uninteresting to me. The exception is the Paradise-Lost-style depiction of Satan as a complex and partly sympathetic literary character, but when it’s more about witchcraft and pentagrams and maybe being a bit provocative, I just find it kind of boring.
So, this is a sort of out-there submission, which I assume you decided to chance because the elimination for this pool is already confirmed. I found it interesting to listen to, and really well-done. But at the end of the day, it doesn’t really connect with my personal interests, and is unlikely to be something I want to come back to and listen to more of, which is definitely a significant part of judging criteria here.
I’ll also say that I’m not big on the backing vocals. There’s something that is just a little annoying to me, actually, about the “Ave Satanas” parts on Sex Magick and the “Beelzebub” parts on The Devil Didn’t Make Me Do It.
Tomislav95: Rishloo - Landmines / Just a Ride
Bold move sending me a band that makes sort-of-bleak prog metal after the first two rounds of this roulette. But while I haven’t been converted into Rishloo fan, I do find this music more interesting than most prog metal in this general style or sound palette.
On Landmines, I like the dynamics, and find the “Move beyond these ordinary ways” part pretty interesting. And Just a Ride has a number of compelling vocal melodies. I can actually see myself wanting to explore this band further because they’re not oppressively dark and their songwriting is pretty interesting to me.
Decision:
I feel like this one is pretty straightforward. Destiny Potato was definitely my favorite of the round, being a type of music that I enjoy and including some songs that I really connected to and liked quite well. Rishloo comes in second. It interested me and made me want to experiment with more, but didn’t connect with me on as personal a level as Destiny Potato. Twin Temple, though it was very well-done, ends up in third because it’s just not something that’s likely to be interesting to me.
LithoJazzoSphere/Destiny Potato: 3 points
Tomislav95/Rishloo: 2 points
soupytwist/Twin Temple: 1 point
Scores:
LithoJazzoSphere: 8 points
soupytwist: 6 points
Tomislav95: 4 points
As we already knew, Litho and soupy will proceed to the next round, while Tomislav will be eliminated. Tomislav, sorry to see you go, but I think you did get my interest piqued with both Kingcrow and Rishloo, so I’m glad to have had you here.
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Excellent. When I saw DMM on your list but not DP, I wondered what had gone wrong. I found your writeup for "Smile" and couldn't let that stand. That track is definitely the most out there thing she's done (I love it personally, but can see how it's an acquired taste), but as you've now heard, Aleksandra has many more facets than just the abrasive and harrowing ones. I'd encourage you at some point to check out her solo EP Crossroads, which David also has some involvement with, though more in the background. It's less djenty and metallic, but has so many infectious pop hooks. She also has a lot of guest spots with other bands and some nice covers on Youtube if you want to go even deeper down the rabbit hole. I consider her one of the preeminent vocalists today, and the two of them one of the best musical tandems around. Destiny Potato/Sordid Pink themselves have all kinds of fun alternate versions of songs and such if you explore around besides the two albums, or just ask me later, some of them take some digging to get to.
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soupytwist: Twin Temple - The Devil Didn’t Make Me Do It / I’m Wicked / Sex Magick
This music is certainly well done. I find it interesting in certain ways, and it’s definitely quite catchy at times. But I think it’s ultimately a miss just on considerations of personal taste alone. I mean, it’s going for something rather quirky: “Satanic doo-wop.” For those who are interested in that musical style and/or particularly like more-or-less playful presentations of Satan in music, I can imagine this being a real hit.
But those just aren’t interests of mine. I could see myself getting into the musical style itself, potentially, but it’s not a style that I feel quite goes with Satanism, personally. And Satanic elements in music are generally just uninteresting to me. The exception is the Paradise-Lost-style depiction of Satan as a complex and partly sympathetic literary character, but when it’s more about witchcraft and pentagrams and maybe being a bit provocative, I just find it kind of boring.
So, this is a sort of out-there submission, which I assume you decided to chance because the elimination for this pool is already confirmed. I found it interesting to listen to, and really well-done. But at the end of the day, it doesn’t really connect with my personal interests, and is unlikely to be something I want to come back to and listen to more of, which is definitely a significant part of judging criteria here.
I’ll also say that I’m not big on the backing vocals. There’s something that is just a little annoying to me, actually, about the “Ave Satanas” parts on Sex Magick and the “Beelzebub” parts on The Devil Didn’t Make Me Do It.
Pretty much. As it was a free hit as such I wanted to send something unique.
Quick question is round two sticking to the same rules as round one? Just want to check before I send my submission.
Congrats Litho - we may meet again!
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Nice!
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Stadler is eliminated. This is a tough one for me to see, not only because it was on a really strong and really close round, but because I feel like Stadler and I see eye-to-eye on a lot of how we approach music and on what we like about some of our favorite artists (Iron Maiden and Neal Morse most notably). We just haven’t connected as well in my roulettes, for some reason or another. I still really appreciate you playing and introducing me to a wide variety of artists in these three rounds!
Wait, what??? :) Haha.
I think it's harder when we ARE so similar. I tried to really find something that wasn't "Iron Maiden-lite" or something like that, and that runs with risk. It's still fun! Thanks!
And I'll be lurking to make fun of the usual suspects! :)
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Excellent. When I saw DMM on your list but not DP, I wondered what had gone wrong. I found your writeup for "Smile" and couldn't let that stand. That track is definitely the most out there thing she's done (I love it personally, but can see how it's an acquired taste), but as you've now heard, Aleksandra has many more facets than just the abrasive and harrowing ones. I'd encourage you at some point to check out her solo EP Crossroads, which David also has some involvement with, though more in the background. It's less djenty and metallic, but has so many infectious pop hooks. She also has a lot of guest spots with other bands and some nice covers on Youtube if you want to go even deeper down the rabbit hole. I consider her one of the preeminent vocalists today, and the two of them one of the best musical tandems around. Destiny Potato/Sordid Pink themselves have all kinds of fun alternate versions of songs and such if you explore around besides the two albums, or just ask me later, some of them take some digging to get to.
I appreciate you calling me in on that and getting me to give them another chance. I don't remember writing about Smile anywhere, although I definitely believe I did at some point, so that's some impressive forum sleuthing!
Stadler is eliminated. This is a tough one for me to see, not only because it was on a really strong and really close round, but because I feel like Stadler and I see eye-to-eye on a lot of how we approach music and on what we like about some of our favorite artists (Iron Maiden and Neal Morse most notably). We just haven’t connected as well in my roulettes, for some reason or another. I still really appreciate you playing and introducing me to a wide variety of artists in these three rounds!
Wait, what??? :) Haha.
I think it's harder when we ARE so similar. I tried to really find something that wasn't "Iron Maiden-lite" or something like that, and that runs with risk. It's still fun! Thanks!
And I'll be lurking to make fun of the usual suspects! :)
I can see that, especially given your desire to take some risks. Always fun to have you along!
Really sorry about another delay, folks! I had plenty of time to listen but not much time to write. Here are the final writeups and the pools for round 4! I certainly intend to hold myself to a far more reasonable timeline for the next several rounds. I think it will be easier working with three groups of four rather than six groups of three.
Pool B:
ReaperKK: From Monument to Masses - A Sixth Trumpet / An Ounce of Prevention
I have a mixed history with post rock. It’s a type of music that I enjoy listening to when it’s on, but rarely find to be that memorable for me. All the post rock bands I’ve tried have been ones that I’ve enjoyed at the time, but rarely found myself returning to.
I don’t know that this will be any different, but I will say that A Sixth Trumpet is a strong instrumental song. It goes through a lot of interesting and memorable sections and has a pretty good atmosphere.
An Ounce of Prevention is a little more of a mixed bag for me, though still essentially good. There are fewer sections that stand out to me as particularly good, although there are still some strong moments. I also am really not a fan of the sample that completely interrupts the music about five minutes in. Don’t really like the message, but more importantly it just completely takes me out of the song.
twosuitsluke: Rx Bandits - In Her Drawer / Stargazer / Meow! Meow! Space Tiger
As the impression notes, this is a style that has mixed results in connecting with me. And I have to say, my first impression here was lukewarm. That said, these songs have grown on me to a pretty significant degree. Stargazer is of particular interest to me, with a pretty strong chorus and some good riffing.
I also like much of the other two songs. The chorus of In Her Drawer and the bridge section of Meow! Meow! Space Tiger are particularly noteworthy moments. Parts of these songs are still less interesting to me, but they’re pretty enjoyable on the whole.
wolfking: Vanishing Point - The Fall / Dead Elysium
This style of prog metal is a pretty comfortable sound for me, and the question of whether I come away thinking it’s decent or whether I have some more abiding interest is mainly dependent on whether I experience a strong connection with at least some of the songs. That can be just really being struck by the songwriting or vocals, or having something of an emotional connection.
The latter is what happened here with The Fall. Something about the combination of the sound and lyrics of this song connects well with me. I like the sense of commitment to struggle through adversity that this one conveys.
Dead Elysium doesn’t have the same emotional connection for me, but I think it might ultimately be the more interesting of the two from a songwriting perspective, as a somewhat proggier piece. It’s a nice complement to The Fall because it gives me the sense that this band has some interesting variety.
Decision:
This is a suspenseful pool because all three participants were tied coming into this round, meaning that last place here is eliminated.
The easiest choice here was to pick Vanishing Point as my favorite submission of the round. These songs were a style I enjoy and really appealed to me as instances of that style.
Choosing second and third is more difficult. I liked both submissions, but did not fall in love with either. Both had their strong moments along with parts that were uninteresting to me. I think Stargazer pushes me to favor of Rx Bandits. That’s my favorite song of the five from these two artists. Though I like A Sixth Trumpet quite a bit as well, Stargazer has made a stronger impression on me. It’s just more memorable to me, personally, which probably comes down to my continue to have limited success with post rock. Both other Rx Bandits songs stand as solid, but not outstanding, to me. An Ounce of Prevention is one that I like most of when I put it on, but that middle sample that cuts the song in two kind of pushes me away.
wolfking/Vanishing Point: 3 points
twosuitsluke/Rx Bandits: 2 points
ReaperKK/From Monuments to Masses: 1 point
Scores:
wolfking: 7 points
twosuitsluke: 6 points
ReaperKK: 5 points
Wolfking and Luke advance to Round 4. ReaperKK just misses the cut by a very close decision. Sorry to see you go, Reaper! I really enjoyed the Ola submission and thought your approach of largely sending instrumental music was pretty interesting. Thanks for playing!
Pool F:
Cyril: Glass Beach - Bedroom Community / Cold Weather / Orchids
So maybe these are not strange vocals on the Cyril scale, but I am not really a fan of them. It’s just a really rough, unrefined style that doesn’t connect with me. I think it’s both the actual performance and the way the parts are written: for my tastes, too jagged too often and with too many syllables crammed into a line for no particular reason, particularly on Bedroom Community.
The actual music has some elements I definitely like. The melody itself that repeats a few times in Bedroom Community made a good impression. I like the construction of the guitar parts under the verses in Cold Weather. And the guitar melody on Orchids has a surprisingly epic feel to it. But I think my appreciation of this is more appreciation of particular parts, not a real connection to these songs as a whole.
romdrums: Valis Ablaze - Neon Dreaming / Hollow Heart / States of Decay
This band is definitely playing around with the djent sound palette, which is hit-or-miss for me. When it’s pure djent, I generally find that uninteresting, but there are bands who do interesting things with it, making melodic and emotional music that connects with me.
Valis Ablaze falls into this category. The singer plays a crucial role in making this possible. He gives a really passionate performance singing some big melodies over the djentier parts. I think that makes the djent interesting—having these melodies soar over it, as on Hollow Heart.
The real standout song here, though, is States of Decay, because this starts as a softer piece before errupting into a second half that contains both heavier moments and ethereal-sounding ones.
TAC: Waken Eyes - Palisades / Across the Horizon
The impression almost says it all. These songs are both epic in all the ways I like. Big melodies, a lot of different sections that flow together well, lengthy instrumental/solo sections… it’s all here. This is especially noticeable throughout Palisades, which feels quite grand, but the finale of Across the Horizon is quite good in its own right.
I don’t know, I feel like I don’t have a lot to say for this one, but it checks all the boxes for me in being a strong example of a style of music that I really enjoy. I’m looking forward to spending more time with it.
Decision:
This is another one that seems to fall out quite naturally from my views on the three submissions individually. Waken Eyes connected with me really well, checking pretty much every single box, and thus gets first place. Valis Ablaze also made a strong impression, but was more of a double than a home run, so it comes in second. Glass Beach, meanwhile, had its moments, but didn’t really land, so it finishes third.
TAC/Waken Eyes: 3 points
romdrums/Valis Ablze: 2 points
Cyril/Glass Beach: 1 point
Scores:
TAC: 8 points
Cyril: 5 points
romdrums: 5 points
TAC advances to round 4. To decide between Cyril and romdrums, we’ll need a tiebreaker, which will be my overall ranking of their six submissions. I’d rank these as follows: CHVRCHES was my favorite submission from either contestant. I think Valis Ablaze comes in at second place, and Toto takes third. I really liked that Toto submission and was sorry I had to put it in last place in the first round. The final three are all close, but honestly Aurora has had a lot more staying power in my mind than I’d anticipated, so I’ll give it fourth place. I think I would probably choose Vylet Pony over Glass Beach because of the strength of Bonnie, but as they’re both Cyril’s submissions, which of them is in fifth and which in sixth doesn’t affect the final outcome:
1. CHVRCHES (Cyril)
2. Valis Ablaze (romdrums)
3. Toto (romdrums)
4. The Intersphere (romdrums)
5. Vylet Pony (Cyril)
6. Glass Beach (Cyril)
That’s an average score of 3 for romdrums and 4 for Cyril, which, as you probably guessed, means that romdrums takes second in Pool F and will advance to the fourth round. Cyril is eliminated. Sorry to see you go; I always enjoy having you in these and find it fascinating what you decide to send me, even if it not all of it works for me. I can understand the frustration of it being hard to predict exactly what is going to work for me; in more electronic styles of music I can really be hit or miss for reasons that might not fully make sense to more involved fans of the genres. Thanks for playing as always!
Round 4 Pools:
Now we need to set up a new set of pools for rounds 4-6. The same rules will apply—send fifteen minutes or less of music from a single artist, and you will be ranked relative to other participants in your pool. The difference is that we will have three new pools with four participants each, rather than the three participant pools we've had up to this point. This means that the top scorer of each round will receive 4 points, second place 3, third place 2, and last place 1.
The pools are going to be seeded based on each participant's total score from the first three rounds. Here are those scores for our remaining participants:
kingshmegland: 9
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HOF: 8
LithoJazzoSphere: 8
TAC: 8
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Lethean: 7
senecadawg2: 7
wolfking: 7
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soupytwist: 6
twosuitsluke: 6
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Buddyhunter1: 5
romdrums: 5
Vmadera00: 5
Trying to make these favorable to the top-scoring participant while somewhat fair, and using RNG to choose who goes where when participants have equal scores, I've come up with these new pools:
Pool X:
kingshmegland
wolfking
soupytwist
romdrums
Pool Y:
HOF
Lethean
senecadawg2
Vmadera00
Pool Z:
TAC
LithoJazzoSphere
twosuitsluke
Buddyhunter1
As the top scorer, king has to face off against someone who scored 7, someone who scored 6, and someone who scored 5. Those who scored 8 either have to face someone else who scored 8, along with someone who scored 6 and someone who scored 5, or two people who scored 7 and someone who scored 5. Each group contains a total first pool score of 27.
However, please remember that all scores reset to zero to begin this second set of pools! The advantage of doing well in the first set of rounds is that you get paired with opponents who did not do as well, but you don't keep your point advantage.
Looking forward to seeing what you all have to offer in this new phase!
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yeah, you just didn't want to listen to more bent knee, i get it :corn
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I knew that was coming :lol
I'll listen to exactly one Bent Knee song of your choosing tonight. Choose wisely.
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Nice. I'll send something by end of day tomorrow.
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Thanks for having me! I'll be following this thread closely!
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i forget what songs i sent you but unfortunately, spotify has decided to do a nonexistence atm so oop
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Aaaand sent!
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Nice to see my Aussie boys getting the job done for me. :metal
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425 instead of listening to my bent knee submission which you'll probably hate go check out my round 5 and 6 submissions which you'll probably like idk
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Well that was close :| scraped through and ended up with my homeboys for the next round.
Is it the top two that progress from this next stage? Also how long have I got to send as I haven't even thought about it yet.
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Pool X:
kingshmegland
wolfking
soupytwist
romdrums
In typical Game of Thrones/House of Dragon style I'll be hailing the King(shegland) of the first round while plotting and scheming to taking him down.
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I'll send Tim to old man you to death.
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Sent for round 4. Time to sharpen the knives...
425, are you still going to rank the submissions from the last round and list the top few songs?
Pool X:
kingshmegland
wolfking
soupytwist
romdrums
In typical Game of Thrones/House of Dragon style I'll be hailing the King(shegland) of the first round while plotting and scheming to taking him down.
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Have you been paying enough attention to realize it won't have a happy ending? ;)
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I'll send Tim to old man you to death.
Yoda is my favorite character in game of thrones.
Oh, and I have sent!!!!!
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Well that was close :| scraped through and ended up with my homeboys for the next round.
Is it the top two that progress from this next stage? Also how long have I got to send as I haven't even thought about it yet.
It's top two from each pool, yes! Things are getting a little tougher now that y'all have made it through the first round.
I'm not going to put a hard deadline on sending, but the sooner you do it the sooner I'll start listening to your pool and the happier they'll probably be with us, so there's that. It's not a problem with me though if it takes a couple of days.
Sent for round 4. Time to sharpen the knives...
425, are you still going to rank the submissions from the last round and list the top few songs?
Yeah, I'll try to do that this evening.
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Sent!
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the sooner you do it the sooner I'll start listening to your pool and the happier they'll probably be
You think I'm considering the happiness of my rivals?!?!?
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Sent
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I'm going on Holiday for a couple of weeks from the 12th and back on the 27th. I'm I ok to send my submissions for round 5 & 6 early?
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Yes, you can go ahead and send all three rounds at once, if you want. Some of us call that "doing the Cyril."
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Yes, you can go ahead and send all three rounds at once, if you want. Some of us call that "doing the Cyril."
losing because of this is also "doing the Cyril" :neverusethis:
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I'll have something sent by the weekend. Honestly, I didn't think I'd make it out of the prelims, so kinda scrambling!
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Just an update, we are at 8/12 right now. Sending this weekend is fine with me, but usernames go in the thread title Monday morning. :P
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I sent mine last week after the first batch of results, just in case you missed it at the time.
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Thanks for reminding me! It's actually 10/12 considering yours and another one I missed, which means we have one pool that's all-in.
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Who's the slacker in my pool?
There will be no slacking in my pool! :police:
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Who's the slacker in my pool?
There will be no slacking in my pool! :police:
Not me, I've got my shit together! :biggrin:
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Who's the slacker in my pool?
There will be no slacking in my pool! :police:
Not me, I've got my shit together! :biggrin:
Boston rules!!! We're nothing but impatient.
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Who's the slacker in my pool?
There will be no slacking in my pool! :police:
*Tim when he finds out it's me...
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Who's the slacker in my pool?
There will be no slacking in my pool! :police:
*Tim when he finds out it's me...
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Damn Brit! No wonder we revolted. :lol
Come to Boston and learn all about it!
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He even taunted you on the last page!
the sooner you do it the sooner I'll start listening to your pool and the happier they'll probably be
You think I'm considering the happiness of my rivals?!?!?
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Sent for next round.
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Who's the slacker in my pool?
There will be no slacking in my pool! :police:
*Tim when he finds out it's me...
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Tim looks at his sun dial and then goes to his computer with Windows 95 to complain.
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Tim looks at his sun dial and then goes to his computer with Windows 95 to complain.
Wait...nobody else uses Compuserve?
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Until a few years ago I still had a computer running XP.
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Tim looks at his sun dial and then goes to his computer with Windows 95 to complain.
Wait...nobody else uses Compuserve?
What is Compuserve?
Am I doing it right Tim? ;)
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Who's the slacker in my pool?
There will be no slacking in my pool! :police:
*Tim when he finds out it's me...
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Oh shit, completely forgot :lol
I'll send something now, better pull something outta my ass!
Edit: Sent something better than the other chumps, with less time thinking on it :lol
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Thanks. Everyone's in; I'll make the hangman later today!
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Yea sorry about the delay dude. I'd say it's the pressure of running my own roulette but that's bullshit, I just forgot.
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I get it; I feel like I'm often just forgetting things.
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Twosuitsluke sent Pizza Death
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Twosuitsluke sent Pizza Death
I'm not ready to bomb out of this roulette just yet!
But if my submission this round bombs then fuck it, Pizza or death!
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Conception?
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Triosphere?
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Z!
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Static X?
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Okay, so just to get this straight, we have P E A T Z for "peatz"? Interesting choice. Turns out there's no Z, but here are the others.
Conception and Triosphere are correct. Static X is not.
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Letters used: P E A T Z
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How are you a Kamelot superfan and don't have Conception banned?
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I think it would be an exaggeration to say I'm a Kamelot superfan. They have five albums I've never even heard. It would be more accurate to say that I'm a superfan of The Black Halo, which is a top ten album all time for me and one that has carried a lot of personal significance for the last couple of years.
In any case, I'm pretty sure I've never heard a single Conception song prior to this round. (I'm also pretty inconsistent about checking out side projects—I definitely am an Iron Maiden superfan, yet I still haven't heard Bruce Dickinson's Chemical Wedding even despite the urging of some of this forum.)
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Triosphere tracks are:
My Fortress
Relentless
Marionette
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Yeah, those are the Triosphere songs.
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Nevermore
Born
This Godless Endeavor
Sent by Wolfking
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I feel like Triosphere could either be Romdrums or Lethean.
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Nevermore
Born
This Godless Endeavor
Sent by Wolfking
Fuck.
The round is over, just give wolfie the crown for this one. This is like captaining pickup ball and accidentally forgetting that LeBron James was still left to pick. Thank goodness I'm not in that pool. Your only hope is that 425 thinks they're way too dark (which they are, but maybe not those songs). :lol
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Fellowship
Glint
The Saint Beyond The River
Oak And Ash
No idea who sent this.
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The Conception songs are "Waywardly Broken", "By the Blues", and "Cardinal Sin".
Ghost - "Dance Macabre" (misspelling there?), "He Is", "Miasma".
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All the artist/song guesses on this page have been correct, and Nevermore is wolfking. Triosphere is neither romdrums nor Lethean, though.
"Dance Macabre" (misspelling there?)
This will sound unbearably pretentious, but yeah, the misspelling is a result of me assuming it was the full French phrase "danse macabre."
Nevermore
Born
This Godless Endeavor
Sent by Wolfking
Fuck.
The round is over, just give wolfie the crown for this one. This is like captaining pickup ball and accidentally forgetting that LeBron James was still left to pick. Thank goodness I'm not in that pool. Your only hope is that 425 thinks they're way too dark (which they are, but maybe not those songs). :lol
:rollin
Fellowship
- Glint
- The Saint Beyond the River
- Oak and Ash
Ghost
- Dance Macabre
- He Is
- Miasma
Conception
- Wayward Broken
- By the Blues
- Cardinal Sin
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Cave In - "New Reality", "Heavy Pendulum", "Reckoning". Buddy or luke.
I.
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Nevermore
Born
This Godless Endeavor
Sent by Wolfking
Fuck.
The round is over, just give wolfie the crown for this one. This is like captaining pickup ball and accidentally forgetting that LeBron James was still left to pick. Thank goodness I'm not in that pool. Your only hope is that 425 thinks they're way too dark (which they are, but maybe not those songs). :lol
Is this like a reverse psychology tactic? :lol
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Cave In
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Cave In
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Really? :lol
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Cave In
New Reality
Heavy Pendulum
Reckoning
Sent by WildRanger
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Cave In
-New Reality
-Heavy Pendulum
-Reckoning
Really? :lol
WTF. Cave In is a good band dude.
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You don't get it, obviously. :lol
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You don't get it, obviously. :lol
Did I have a blonde moment? :lol
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How about a W.
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Cave In
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Really? :lol
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Litho's post:
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:facepalm:
I mean, I'm just making sure 425 sees it :biggrin:
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I see it now. :lol
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Bent Knee
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How about a W.
Don't get ahead of yourself now.
Litho's post:
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M for 425 is Missing
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It's been a busy day. Let's catch up:
Cave In
New Reality
Heavy Pendulum
Reckoning
Sent by WildRanger
First, I want to thank Buddy for finally admitting that WildRanger is your alternate account. It takes a lot of courage to come forward and confess something like that after all these years.
Bent Knee
Yes, someone certainly did send Bent Knee. But, strangely, it's not on my list of what I have to listen to this round? How could that have happened?
Now, I believe we have I, R, W, O, M. Here are all those:
Fellowship
- Glint
- The Saint Beyond the River
- Oak and Ash
Ghost
- Dance Macabre
- He Is
- Miasma
Conception
- Wayward Broken
- By the Blues
- Cardinal Sin
Buddyhunter1: Cave In
- New Reality
- Heavy Pendulum
- Reckoning
_o___
- A_a
- __st Nation __ea_
- _____
Ama_ir_
- _o_rs
- Nin_a No Tamas_ii
- Sam_rai
S___an
- On M_ O__sse_
- O_ert_re
- A_o__ To _ea_e
_in_s _
- _o_man
- Sm___e
- Its _o_e
Serio_s __a__
- _i__ An_ _ow
- Sea_in_ M_ _ate
- M_ M_sti_ Min_
wolfking: Nevermore
- Born
- This Godless Endeavor
Ant_onie Tonnon
- Two _ree _an_s
- O__ Ima_es
- _ea_e _o_e O_t O_ T_is
Triosphere
- My Fortress
- Relentless
- Marionette
Letters used: P E A T Z S N I R W O M
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Serious Black. Isn't that one of them there fogey bands?
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Anthonie Tonnon
- Two Free Hands
- Old Images
- Leave Love Out of This
Send for round 5 & 6 as I'm off on Holidays for a couple of week. Good luck everyone, aside from those in my group - you guys can have a mare.
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Serious Black. Isn't that one of them there fogey bands?
No, they're aren't a fogey band, but they are a shit band however.
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Serious Black. Isn't that one of them there fogey bands?
No, they're aren't a fogey band, but they are a shit band however.
Ok, hold up. The songs are;
High and Low
Sealing My Fate
My Mystic Mind
All from the first album so all is well, nicely played whoever sent these. Their second album forward, they lost Roland Grapow and became a shit band.
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Serious Black. Isn't that one of them there fogey bands?
No, they're aren't a fogey band, but they are a shit band however.
Ok, hold up. The songs are;
High and Low
Sealing My Fate
My Mystic Mind
All from the first album so all is well, nicely played whoever sent these. Their second album forward, they lost Roland Grapow and became a shit band.
Wolfking sent Serious Crap
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I thought I already won the round? :lol
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Fellowship
- Glint
- The Saint Beyond the River
- Oak and Ash
Ghost
- Dance Macabre
- He Is
- Miasma
Conception
- Wayward Broken
- By the Blues
- Cardinal Sin
Buddyhunter1: Cave In
- New Reality
- Heavy Pendulum
- Reckoning
_o___
- A_a
- __st Nation __ea_
- _____
Ama_ir_
- _o_rs
- Nin_a No Tamas_ii
- Sam_rai
S___an
- On M_ O__sse_
- O_ert_re
- A_o__ To _ea_e
_in_s _
- _o_man
- Sm___e
- Its _o_e
Serious Black
- High and Low
- Sealing My Fate
- My Mystic Mind
wolfking: Nevermore
- Born
- This Godless Endeavor
Anthonie Tonnon
- Two Free Hands
- Old Images
- Leave Love Out of This
Triosphere
- My Fortress
- Relentless
- Marionette
Letters used: P E A T Z S N I R W O M
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Too late to ask for the D?
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Amahiru
-Hours
-Ninja No Tamashi
-Samuari
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Too late to ask for the D?
It's never too late to ask for the D.
Fellowship
- Glint
- The Saint Beyond the River
- Oak and Ash
Ghost
- Dance Macabre
- He Is
- Miasma
Conception
- Wayward Broken
- By the Blues
- Cardinal Sin
Buddyhunter1: Cave In
- New Reality
- Heavy Pendulum
- Reckoning
_o___
- A_a
- D_st Nation __ea_
- _____
Amahiru
- Hours
- Ninja No Tamas_ii
- Samurai
S___an
- On M_ Od_sse_
- O_ert_re
- A_o__ To _ea_e
_in_s _
- Do_man
- Sm_d_e
- Its _o_e
Serious Black
- High and Low
- Sealing My Fate
- My Mystic Mind
wolfking: Nevermore
- Born
- This Godless Endeavor
Anthonie Tonnon
- Two Free Hands
- Old Images
- Leave Love Out of This
Triosphere
- My Fortress
- Relentless
- Marionette
Letters used: P E A T Z S N I R W O M D
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Jolly sent by Kingshmegland.
Dust Nation Bleak
Sylvan
On My Odyssey
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Jolly sent by Kingshmegland.
Dust Nation Bleak
Sylvan
On My Odyssey
If King didn't send Jolly, it was Elite
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Not me.
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The second Sylvan song is Overture.
King's X
Dogman
Smudge
It's Love
Damn it! I was going to send them next round!
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King's X
Dogman
Smudge
It's Love
Damn it! I was going to send them next round!
That’s a great set of songs. Though I wonder how Dogman will go down with 425.
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Oh wow, another top favorite of mine I didn't even consider sending, interesting. And of course the challenge with bands you're overly familiar with is that I know there are many possible sets of songs that could be sent, particularly with a band with as many albums as they have, so if 425 doesn't go for those I'll wonder how it would have gone with different ones.
The other two Jolly songs should be "Ana" and "Lucky".
The third Sylvan song is "About To Leave".
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We've got some accurate guesses of artists and songs. However:
Jolly sent by Kingshmegland.
Dust Nation Bleak
Sylvan
On My Odyssey
If King didn't send Jolly, it was Elite
Jolly isn't King, and Elite is out.
Fellowship
- Glint
- The Saint Beyond the River
- Oak and Ash
Ghost
- Dance Macabre
- He Is
- Miasma
Conception
- Wayward Broken
- By the Blues
- Cardinal Sin
Buddyhunter1: Cave In
- New Reality
- Heavy Pendulum
- Reckoning
Jolly
- Ava
- Dust Nation Bleak
- Lucky
Amahiru
- Hours
- Ninja No Tamashii
- Samurai
Sylvan
- On My Odyssey
- Overture
- About to Leave
King's X
- Dogman
- Smudge
- It's Love
Serious Black
- High and Low
- Sealing My Fate
- My Mystic Mind
wolfking: Nevermore
- Born
- This Godless Endeavor
Anthonie Tonnon
- Two Free Hands
- Old Images
- Leave Love Out of This
Triosphere
- My Fortress
- Relentless
- Marionette
Since the only thing we need to fill out the songs and artists is the name of the last Sylvan song (which I'm sure you will easily guess), I'll go ahead and list who is still in the roulette and whose artist has not been guessed:
HOF
kingshmegland
Lethean
LithoJazzoSphere
romdrums
senecadawg2
soupytwist
TAC
twosuitsluke
Vmadera00
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I looked at the list and thought, "is that really everyone in the roulette?", and forgot we'd already eliminated some. :rollin
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Since the only thing we need to fill out the songs and artists is the name of the last Sylvan song (which I'm sure you will easily guess), I'll go ahead and list who is still in the roulette and whose artist has not been guessed:
The second Sylvan song is Overture.
Ahem. ;)
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Oops, missed that one! Okay, so we're definitely on to guessing who sent what.
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Should I pull a TAC and suggest that SoundscapeMN sent King's X? :P
Anthonie Tonnon is probably HOF.
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King sent King's X? TAC sent Triosphere?
Jolly song is Ava, btw.
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Damn, I really am invisible, aren't I?
The other two Jolly songs should be "Ana" and "Lucky".
Edit: Oh wait, I mistyped "Ava" as "Ana" initially, nevermind. :lol
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King sent King's X? TAC sent Triosphere?
Jolly song is Ava, btw.
This is what I get for doing this while working on other things!
The King-King's pairing is correct; TAC did not send Triosphere.
Should I pull a TAC and suggest that SoundscapeMN sent King's X? :P
Anthonie Tonnon is probably HOF.
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Well, the guess that could have possibly been right was right.
Edited these back into the preceding post.
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TriosphereHOF
Fellowshipkingshmegland
AmahiruLethean
ConceptionLithoJazzoSphere
Jollyromdrums
Anthonie Tonnonsenecadawg2
Sylvansoupytwist
Serious BlackTAC
Ghosttwosuitsluke
Kings XVmadera00
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You don't get it, obviously. :lol
Back at you Tim. Look above. :lol
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You don't get it, obviously. :lol
Back at you Tim. Look above. :lol
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:lol
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TriosphereHOF
Fellowshipkingshmegland
AmahiruLethean
ConceptionLithoJazzoSphere
Jollyromdrums
Anthonie Tonnonsenecadawg2
Sylvansoupytwist
Serious BlackTAC
Ghosttwosuitsluke
Kings XVmadera00
2/10
Fellowship
- Glint
- The Saint Beyond the River
- Oak and Ash
twosuitsluke: Ghost
- Dance Macabre
- He Is
- Miasma
Lethean: Conception
- Wayward Broken
- By the Blues
- Cardinal Sin
Buddyhunter1: Cave In
- New Reality
- Heavy Pendulum
- Reckoning
romdrums: Jolly
- Ava
- Dust Nation Bleak
- Lucky
TAC: Amahiru
- Hours
- Ninja No Tamashii
- Samurai
Sylvan
- On My Odyssey
- Overture
- About to Leave
kingshmegland: King's X
- Dogman
- Smudge
- It's Love
Serious Black
- High and Low
- Sealing My Fate
- My Mystic Mind
wolfking: Nevermore
- Born
- This Godless Endeavor
HOF: Anthonie Tonnon
- Two Free Hands
- Old Images
- Leave Love Out of This
Triosphere
- My Fortress
- Relentless
- Marionette
Remaining participants:
LithoJazzoSphere
senecadawg2
soupytwist
Vmadera00
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I love Ghost's "He Is." What a great tune.
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TAC, Amahiru?
Lethean, Conception?
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Yes to both.
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Tac sent Serious Black?
Triosphere - Seneca?
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:lol
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:lol
Slow day :facepalm:
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I actually have the first Serious Black album, and if I would've sent them, I would've definitely included Setting Fire To The Earth.
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TriosphereLithoJazzoSphere
Sylvansenecadawg2
Fellowshipsoupytwist
Serious BlackVmadera00
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You know, not for one second until this moment did I realize the commonality, wow.
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You know, not for one second until this moment did I realize the commonality, wow.
Err...the commonality of what? :lol
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"Sphere" being in both names.
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Did you send them?
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Yep.
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did i send Serious Black?
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That would be hilarious if 425 got your early submissions mixed up with the remaining entries. Doesn't seem like a "you" band, to the extent I understand your tastes.
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it is a joke, yes :rollin i prefer Serious Purple
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Serious Purple sounds like a personal problem.
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did i send Serious Black?
Yes. Another typical Cyril power metal submission
TriosphereLithoJazzoSphere
Sylvansenecadawg2
Fellowshipsoupytwist
Serious BlackVmadera00
2/4... moving up!
soupytwist: Fellowship
- Glint
- The Saint Beyond the River
- Oak and Ash
twosuitsluke: Ghost
- Dance Macabre
- He Is
- Miasma
Lethean: Conception
- Wayward Broken
- By the Blues
- Cardinal Sin
Buddyhunter1: Cave In
- New Reality
- Heavy Pendulum
- Reckoning
romdrums: Jolly
- Ava
- Dust Nation Bleak
- Lucky
TAC: Amahiru
- Hours
- Ninja No Tamashii
- Samurai
Sylvan
- On My Odyssey
- Overture
- About to Leave
kingshmegland: King's X
- Dogman
- Smudge
- It's Love
Serious Black
- High and Low
- Sealing My Fate
- My Mystic Mind
wolfking: Nevermore
- Born
- This Godless Endeavor
HOF: Anthonie Tonnon
- Two Free Hands
- Old Images
- Leave Love Out of This
LithoJazzoSphere: Triosphere
- My Fortress
- Relentless
- Marionette
Remaining participants:
senecadawg2
Vmadera00
Who wants to draw the perhaps surprising conclusion?
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Yep.
Not all that happy Triosphere is in my group. Marionette is far and away the best song of the three.
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It's my favorite of them, but the chorus on "My Fortress" can get stuck in your head for weeks, and the solo in "Relentless" is bonkers. I'm just happy I can't be knocked out by Nevermore and King's X, two of my favorite bands that I didn't even consider sending at all, I guess because I'm mostly going for more under the radar bands.
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The irony of thinking of Triosphere as the more under-the-radar submission is that they're the only one of those three bands that I've ever heard a song from before.
Of course, that's not to say they're actually more prominent than the other two, it's just that I live under a rock except for DTF roulettes.
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For the most part, the bands in this round are relatively fairly well known for a typical roulette round.
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Yeah, people can do that with me because there are just a ton of well-known bands that I am not very familiar with. Triosphere is the only band this round that I can guarantee I've heard a full song from before. I think I may have heard something from Ghost many years ago, but I'm far from certain of that.
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Cool. Looking forward to first impressions.
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Triosphere isn't hyper-obscure, sure, they come up from time to time. But the main Nevermore thread has 498 replies. The main King's X thread has 134. The Triosphere one has...three.
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Think I'll check out my competitors in this round. I'm already very familiar with Buddy's submissions, and currently they obviously feel like the songs to beat.
Never heard of the other two, so I'll queue them up and come back to trash talk!
Edit: TAC, just listened to yours and they're really good. Hours was the highlight! Why aren't you sending this sort of thing in my roulette? Do you think I hate melody or something :lol
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I'm already very familiar with Buddy's submissions, and currently they obviously feel like the songs to beat.
I'm kind of glad he sent them if for no other reason than I'd like to see more of what other people see in Brodsky. He's done some interesting collaborations with Converge/Chelsea Wolfe, Marissa Nadler, and the Two Minutes to Late Night cover videos, but I feel like they might be incidental to his contributions. There are bits and pieces I've liked from Cave In and Mutoid Man, but I'm not fully on board yet. Maybe one day.
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I'm already very familiar with Buddy's submissions, and currently they obviously feel like the songs to beat.
Felt the need to get them out of the way this round once I saw you were in the same bracket. :biggrin:
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Edit: TAC, just listened to yours and they're really good. Hours was the highlight! Why aren't you sending this sort of thing in my roulette? Do you think I hate melody or something :lol
Just listened to that one myself and was impressed. There's a version of "Hours" in an alternate universe that a producer took a hatchet to and became generic 00s rock radio fodder, but the band refused to let that happen and kept the awesome in. Do TAC and wolfking have an unspoken rivalry for who can send the coolest guitar solos?
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I'm already very familiar with Buddy's submissions, and currently they obviously feel like the songs to beat.
Felt the need to get them out of the way this round once I saw you were in the same bracket. :biggrin:
Hadn't even thought of sending them, but if I did, I would've 100% sent Amaranthine!
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425, do you listen to these playlists in the groups assigned or just all randomly?
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I listen to the playlists in the groups assigned. I keep the order of songs that people sent, but change up the order of whose set of songs I listen to first. So for example: I always listen to Pool X together. And I will always listen to the King's X songs back-to-back-to-back in the order Dogman -> Smudge -> It's Love (and same with the other artists). But the first time I listened to Pool X, I went King's X -> Nevermore -> Fellowship -> Jolly, whereas my second listen reverses that order (Jolly -> Fellowship -> Nevermore -> King's X), and I'll mix it up again on my third listen.
By the way, since the last guess is obvious, I'll go ahead and post the full list of submissions grouped into their respective pools:
Pool X:
kingshmegland: King’s X - Dogman / Smudge / It’s Love
wolfking: Nevermore - Born / This Godless Endeavor
soupytwist: Fellowship - Glint / The Saint Beyond the River / Oak and Ash
romdrums: Jolly - Ava / Dust Nation Bleak / Lucky
Pool Y:
HOF: Anthonie Tonnon - Two Free Hands / Old Images / Leave Love Out of This
Lethean: Conception - Waywardly Broken / By the Blues / Cardinal Sin
senecadawg2: Serious Black - High and Low / Sealing My Fate / My Mystic Mind
Vmadera00: Sylvan - On My Odyssey / Overture / About to Leave
Pool Z:
TAC: Amahiru - Hours / Ninja No Tamashii / Samurai
LithoJazzoSphere: Triosphere - My Fortress / Relentless / Marionette
twosuitsluke: Ghost - Danse Macabre / He Is / Miasma
Buddyhunter1: Cave In - New Reality / Heavy Pendulum / Reckoning
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Very cool! Thanks!
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Looks like decent competition in the group. I think I'm expecting Serious Black and Conception to top the group, but who knows. I do remember enjoying Sylvan's album a few years ago, though I never checked out any of the earlier stuff. Never heard of this Anthonie Tonnon fella.
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kingshmegland and I decided this round was themed "send a band that sounds like your username".
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Like you, I didn't think of that until after I sent. Lol
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Alright, sorry about the long time lapse again! Results should be coming this weekend. For now, here's a set of impressions:
I like the expansive feel of these songs, but the question is whether there will be enough for me to grab onto.
This makes me feel a strange sort of emotion that I can’t tell if I like.
Amahiru: Quite impressed with the guitar on these.
Triosphere: The first two songs are pretty good, but the third brings in an additional dimension that I really like.
Initially, this seems like a pretty good but pretty standard example of a genre I enjoy.
I don't know quite how to explain this, but these songs sound like how it would feel to fly. Really, really liking them.
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The guitar one has to be Nevermore or Amahiru.
The first two songs are pretty good, but the third brings in an additional dimension that I really like.
Might be mine unless it's in the second set.
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Two nice guesses! The guitar one is Amahiru, and the one you quoted is indeed Triosphere!
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Didn't get a lot of engagement on those, which I feel is probably because the are long time lapses between my posts. I'll try to do better about that next round, maybe come up with some more games that we can play while I'm still listening to the songs. Here are the remaining impressions, with at least some results coming later tonight or early tomorrow:
Pleasantly surprised by how melody-centric this is.
Conception: This is such a cheating submission. Good thing I encourage cheating.
This is pretty catchy, though not in a conventional way.
I can tell there are layers to this one, but elements of the sound might be just a bit too far out there for me.
Not in my wheelhouse, but I find something strangely appealing about it.
King's X: What they’re doing with the vocals on these really appeals to me.
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Couldn’t spot anything to go off in the first batch of impressions so couldn’t really hazard a guess. From the new batch, maybe this one?
Not in my wheelhouse, but I find something strangely appealing about it.
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Nope, that's not it. You're actually in the first batch. ;)
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Mine?
What they’re doing with the vocals on these really appeals to me.
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Yep!
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I need to play the lottery. I've been guessing them on 1st chances lately. Lol
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Didn't get a lot of engagement on those, which I feel is probably because the are long time lapses between my posts. I'll try to do better about that next round, maybe come up with some more games that we can play while I'm still listening to the songs.
Don't feel too bad, all four roulettes are taking their time, and we rib all of them about it. In the meantime we've come up with discography runthroughs, songs of each year discussions, top 50 album rankings, and other things to amuse ourselves. :)
This is such a cheating submission. Good thing I encourage cheating.
Conception?
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Hmmm, let’s try:
Initially, this seems like a pretty good but pretty standard example of a genre I enjoy.
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Didn't get a lot of engagement on those, which I feel is probably because the are long time lapses between my posts. I'll try to do better about that next round, maybe come up with some more games that we can play while I'm still listening to the songs.
Don't feel too bad, all four roulettes are taking their time, and we rib all of them about it. In the meantime we've come up with discography runthroughs, songs of each year discussions, top 50 album rankings, and other things to amuse ourselves. :)
Good to hear! There's definitely been a lot of fun GMD activity lately, which is always nice to see!
I will add, since I've been pretty quiet this round, that I think this was a really good round. A lot of submissions I like a whole lot; a lot of difficult decisions!
This is such a cheating submission. Good thing I encourage cheating.
Conception?
Yeah, that one was a bit of a gimme!
Hmmm, let’s try:
Initially, this seems like a pretty good but pretty standard example of a genre I enjoy.
Not this one, either.
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Litho, that's a lot of kiss ass going on. ;D
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Did mine make you feel a strange sort of emotion that you can’t tell if you like?
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Litho, that's a lot of kiss ass going on. ;D
I thought it was penance to assuage my conscience for subtly complaining about it in various threads and not directly to 425 or Luke. :angel:
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Litho, that's a lot of kiss ass going on. ;D
I thought it was penance to assuage my conscience for subtly complaining about it in various threads and not directly to 425 or Luke. :angel:
I'm taking offence! Minus one point for complaining, one for kissing ass and one for making me agree with Tim.
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The last offense should be -2. But his besmirchment of the name of Sir Damian Wilson should be -4 in both roulettes.
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This is such a cheating submission. Good thing I encourage cheating.
Conception?
Yeah, that one was a bit of a gimme!
:biggrin: I did say "if it's really not banned" giving you ample opportunity to reject the submission... :)
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Did mine make you feel a strange sort of emotion that you can’t tell if you like?
Yes, it certainly did!
This is such a cheating submission. Good thing I encourage cheating.
Conception?
Yeah, that one was a bit of a gimme!
:biggrin: I did say "if it's really not banned" giving you ample opportunity to reject the submission... :)
The thing is, I actually want people to do this! I know people think of it as "well, if you like Kamelot and Roy Khan, checking out Conception should be obvious," but I often just... won't get around to it, unless encouraged. What I'm looking for in roulettes isn't mainly "introduce me to artists I've never heard of" (although they can do that and I've found a lot of music I enjoy that way), but more "recommend specific artists to me and tell me what song(s) to start with." The fact that you'd send a band when trying to win a roulette round comes across as a much more solid endorsement than general internet chatter in favor of that band.
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Alright, here's the first pool of results. I'll finish up the other two Wednesday. All three pools this round had some extremely close decisions. We'll start with Pool X, which might have been the strongest pool in this really strong round. I get a sense that I might be doing something heretical with my ranking of these submissions, so I'm interested to see how y'all react...
Pool X:
kingshmegland: King’s X - Dogman / Smudge / It’s Love
Impression: What they’re doing with the vocals on these really appeals to me.
I’m a fan of vocal harmonies, so at least on the level of vocals, this submission was likely to appeal to me. And it certainly does. When you look at something like the chorus to Smudge, there’s just a nice layering of voices that works really well for me.
The instrumentation is pretty good, even if it’s not straight up my alley. There’s somewhat of a blend of genres on these songs that works pretty well. The heavy riffing is kind of jagged at times, particularly on Dogman and Smudge, which can be hit-or-miss for me, but I think it generally works. There’s a groove to a lot of it.
I like all three of these songs, but my favorite of the three is It’s Love. I like the happier mood and the somewhat less heavy sound on that one. It feels like the music gets to breathe a little bit more and the vocal melodies really get to open up. There’s also a really good long guitar solo at the end of this one. I'm into all three songs, but this is one that does the best job of selling me on the band.
romdrums: Jolly - Ava / Dust Nation Bleak / Lucky
Impression: This is pretty catchy, though not in a conventional way.
I find the sort of blend of synthpop and prog metal here interesting. This band has managed to make music that has the catchiness of pop along with some of the off-beat and unusual feel of a lot of prog. This is particularly apparent in Ava, a song that has a catchy synthy chorus along with some sections that get surprisingly heavy.
There are downsides, though. I don’t find the singer particularly appealing. At his best, he’s serviceable. This is fine when the written vocal lines are strong, as they are in Ava. But some of the vocal melodies don’t do it as much for me. This is the case in most of Dust Nation Bleak, for example. That song has its moments, but it’s a noticeable step down from Ava. I think the repeated “dust nation” line and the riffing under it is quite good, but the other vocal parts and some of the heavy riffing don’t entirely work for me. I would place Lucky in between the other two songs. Definitely has some strengths, including a pretty catchy chorus, but it’s not as delightful as Ava.
soupytwist: Fellowship - Glint / The Saint Beyond the River / Oak and Ash
Impression: I don't know quite how to explain this, but these songs sound like how it would feel to fly. Really, really liking them.
Yes, this is it.
This sort of very, very, very bright power metal has missed the mark with me before (Twilight Force wasn’t quite for me)… but these songs are a bullseye. Although they’re very symphonic, there’s still some heft to the metal parts (they could do to turn the metal up a little bit in the mix IMO, but it’s not a dealbreaker). The singer just has a very personable tone and a lot of emotion, so I can really connect with him. And the melodies are just there.
Everything about these songs just feels like it’s soaring. Whether it’s the giant vocal melodies on the choruses, the swelling string parts, or the fast guitar solos, there’s this sense of rapid and weightless motion. It really, really appeals to me.
When I first listened to this submission, I was impressed by Glint alone. I was thinking that if the other songs were anywhere close to as good, this submission would be very strong. And then The Saint Beyond the River kicked in, and it was glorious. This song is shamelessly built around a superb main chorus, but the structure absolutely works to create a sense of variety. Oak and Ash is also an impressive song, which maybe has the heaviest section of the three in its intro, which is welcome. I also like that the verse has almost a chorus-like epic feel… and then the actual chorus has a different, but also epic, feeling.
I did notice that this band is very concerned with their worthiness. “Someone tell me, am I worthy?” he asks on Oak and Ash. Well, I’ll be someone and say, yes, you’re worthy.
wolfking: Nevermore - Born / This Godless Endeavor
Impression: I can tell there are layers to this one, but elements of the sound might be just a bit too far out there for me.
Immediately, this comes across to me as really well done prog metal. There’s a lot of superb guitar work on both songs, both in terms of riffs and solos. I’m really impressed with the transitions between the many different sections on these two songs. My impression is that this is really well-put-together music.
But do I like it? In a sense, yes. I enjoy the mastery of the instrumental performances and the songwriting. There’s something thrilling about listening to something that’s put together this well. There are some good melodies (especially the chorus of Born), some great riffs and some fantastic instrumental sections. I like it insofar as I enjoy those.
But there are some roadblocks to my connecting with it on a personal level. The first is that I’m not really a fan of the vocals. The harsh style that the vocalist uses at times doesn’t really work for me. Hard to put my finger on what exactly I don’t like about it; I think I just tend not to go for the thinner, raspier sounding harshes. And his clean voice is in the category of nothing too special to me. At times he sounds too disaffected and hollow for me.
There is also… (“oh no, he’s about to say it again”) …a dark mood to this music that I don’t really connect with. I think that is partly conveyed to me by the vocal style. Hard to explain it exactly, but the singer gives off a detached or almost nihilistic persona at times that I just don’t sympathize with. I think the rest of the music complements the singer’s style, giving off a similar mood. And, while I don’t judge albums by their artwork, I think the artwork, which I find off-putting, is in keeping with the mood of the music.
I’m kind of reluctant to put it this way because you really cannot judge music by the artwork, but as I’ve been desperate to find a way to put this feeling into words for y’all, I’ll say it this way: If a bleak artwork like this one, showing a disturbed-looking child standing in front of a scene of the aftermath of death and destruction, is fitting with the music on the album, I’m probably going to find the music on that album bleak enough that it’s harder for me to connect with it. In this case, I think the artwork and the music are both well-done and go very well together. . . and I don’t like the artwork and have this mixed feeling about the music.
Again, I have to stress how impressed I am with how well done this is. That's enough to get me to a certain level of liking. But that emotional resonance that makes it a thoroughly enjoyable listening experience just hasn't been there.
Decision:
I said this was a very strong round, and this pool is no exception. I like all four of these submissions; each one has at least something about it that I find pretty interesting or impressive. But how do they line up?
Well, if you looked at all four writeups, I think it’s pretty obvious what my favorite was: Fellowship just really connected with me. Not all happy power metal does, so it wasn’t a guaranteed win, but this band’s sound just worked for me. Absolutely earned the top spot.
The remaining three are all pretty close. They all had aspects I found appealing and aspects that didn’t connect with me as much. I think last place will have to go to Jolly, by a narrow margin. I liked Ava pretty well, but I thought Dust Nation Bleak had its issues in terms of songwriting. Combine that with me not really connecting with the singer and it’s going to lose out to both Nevermore, where I thought the songwriting was really strong, and King’s X, where I really liked the vocals.
After some consideration, I’m going to give second place to King’s X. I enjoy all three King’s X songs, really like It’s Love, and could easily see myself getting into the band. I liked both Nevermore songs and am really impressed with the band, but the personal connection isn’t there. And in the end that’s something that matters a lot to me.
soupytwist/Fellowship: 4 points
kingshmegland/King’s X: 3 points
wolfking/Nevermore: 2 points
romdrums/Jolly: 1 point
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Huh. Fair enough, a tad surprised though.
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Not bad, not bad. Now to come out swinging. Continue to check out King's X. If you like bright and uplifting, check out their album Ear Candy.
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425's reaction to Nevermore is pretty much what I expected, and probably why I subconsciously didn't even consider them. Oh well, people can send stuff like that in my roulette. :lol
I'm surprised he liked "Smudge" as much as he did, that verse used to kind of creep me out when that album came out. I like it now, but I think my tastes were a bit closer to his back then.
Continue to check out King's X. If you like bright and uplifting, check out their album Ear Candy.
Despite my often preference for somewhat darker music, that is my favorite King's X album.
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Continue to check out King's X. If you like bright and uplifting, check out their album Ear Candy.
Despite my often preference for somewhat darker music, that is my favorite King's X album.
I don’t know if I’d call Ear Candy bright and uplifting (maybe the cover!). At least not compared to the first 4 albums. I’d say Faith Hope Love would be the top contender in that regard.
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Hey 425 - when you get a chance, can you post a list of the bands that have been submitted during the roulette? Maybe just add it to the OP?
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Not a Kings X fan. At all.
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Not a Kings X fan. At all.
What don't you like Tim?
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Not a Kings X fan. At all.
What don't you like Tim?
It’s just the TAC/HOF inverse principle at play.
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Breaking Bad spinoff.
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Not a Kings X fan. At all.
What don't you like Tim?
Kings X. ;D
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Try typing sentences this time. Lol
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Continue to check out King's X. If you like bright and uplifting, check out their album Ear Candy.
Despite my often preference for somewhat darker music, that is my favorite King's X album.
I don’t know if I’d call Ear Candy bright and uplifting (maybe the cover!). At least not compared to the first 4 albums. I’d say Faith Hope Love would be the top contender in that regard.
Well, compared to Dogman and Please Come Home Mr. Bulbous it is. There's a warmth and comfort to EC that isn't presently nearly as much on any of their other albums, which is partly the Marshall Ty was using on that album, the acoustics he played on it, partly the micing of Jerry's kit, partly the overall production, and the songwriting and lyrics at times.
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Continue to check out King's X. If you like bright and uplifting, check out their album Ear Candy.
Despite my often preference for somewhat darker music, that is my favorite King's X album.
I don’t know if I’d call Ear Candy bright and uplifting (maybe the cover!). At least not compared to the first 4 albums. I’d say Faith Hope Love would be the top contender in that regard.
Well, compared to Dogman and Please Come Home Mr. Bulbous it is. There's a warmth and comfort to EC that isn't presently nearly as much on any of their other albums, which is partly the Marshall Ty was using on that album, the acoustics he played on it, partly the micing of Jerry's kit, partly the overall production, and the songwriting and lyrics at times.
Yeah, it’s definitely more upbeat than those two albums. But there is a lot of sadness/angst/disillusion in the lyrics that is in pretty stark contrast to their earlier albums.
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You could be right, I rarely pay attention to lyrics, so I'm mostly talking about the sonics of it. I know there's some optimism on at least a few EC tracks, but less on others, I'd have to read through them and compare to say for sure, which I'm not especially inclined to do.
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Not a Kings X fan. At all.
Yeah, I never understood what people like about them either.
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Not a Kings X fan. At all.
Yeah, I never understood what people like about them either.
Hooks, harmonies, interesting tunings/chords/song structures, a good mix of heaviness and melody, killer grooves and guitar solos, things of that nature.
You could be right, I rarely pay attention to lyrics, so I'm mostly talking about the sonics of it. I know there's some optimism on at least a few EC tracks, but less on others, I'd have to read through them and compare to say for sure, which I'm not especially inclined to do.
Thinking specifically of songs like Thinking and Wondering, A Box, Looking for Love, Lies In The Sand, Life Going By. But those early albums did always have an element of melancholy and cynicism as well. It’s more that by Ear Candy they had stopped writing songs like It’s Love.
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Not a Kings X fan. At all.
Yeah, I never understood what people like about them either.
You shame me. Lol
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Not a Kings X fan. At all.
Yeah, I never understood what people like about them either.
I think there's a significant area of metal where my tastes are pretty similar to both of yours, but then you like some metal that's too extreme for me, and I like some prog rock that neither of you seem to be interested in. King's X kind of appeals to the same part of my musical taste as Spock's Beard.
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Alright, what's the best Kings X album I should try? I may or may not listen to it.
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Try Faith Hope Love.
Here's one song to check out.
https://youtu.be/Q0cEtyQjz7g
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Kings X confuses me too. Several of my favorite musicians speak gushingly about them, but I've never been able to enjoy them.
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Try Faith Hope Love.
Here's one song to check out.
https://youtu.be/Q0cEtyQjz7g
I'll sample that tonight.
Even though I don't care for them, I do know that I own the CD called Ogre Tones. I don't remember anything about it except thinking why I wasted my money.
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Alright, what's the best Kings X album I should try? I may or may not listen to it.
I had to pick one, I'd probably go for Gretchen Goes to Nebraska.
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Or maybe something with more soloing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ2WoTerUX0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ2WoTerUX0)
Or speedier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtN8SqPRtOk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtN8SqPRtOk)
Or heavier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtOb2_3YOCE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtOb2_3YOCE)
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Try Faith Hope Love.
Here's one song to check out.
https://youtu.be/Q0cEtyQjz7g
I'll sample that tonight.
Even though I don't care for them, I do know that I own the CD called Ogre Tones. I don't remember anything about it except thinking why I wasted my money.
:lol
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Try Faith Hope Love.
Here's one song to check out.
https://youtu.be/Q0cEtyQjz7g
I'll sample that tonight.
Even though I don't care for them, I do know that I own the CD called Ogre Tones. I don't remember anything about it except thinking why I wasted my money.
Ogre Tones is definitely not one of their stronger albums IMO. They had really slowed down in terms of creativity by that point in their career.
Alright, what's the best Kings X album I should try? I may or may not listen to it.
I had to pick one, I'd probably go for Gretchen Goes to Nebraska.
I’d probably agree with this for anyone who is more metal oriented. Or just search for "The Atlantic Albums" on Spotify and put it on shuffle. All good stuff there.
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Or maybe something with more soloing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ2WoTerUX0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ2WoTerUX0)
Or speedier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtN8SqPRtOk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtN8SqPRtOk)
Or heavier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtOb2_3YOCE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtOb2_3YOCE)
The solos from Flies & Blue Skies is amazing.
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Agreed, though for soloing in slower songs "Lies in the Sand" is my favorite. I'm just thinking of stuff that might appeal more to wolfking, based on what he seems to like.
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We won't change his mind I bet. I'm just loving all this talk over my pick. Lol
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Could be, he seems to be in a period of burnout to me.
King's X is a bit more popular than most bands in these rounds, so more people have strong opinions about them. I'm a bit baffled at how polarizing they seem to be, but that's been the case for decades in the musical landscape it seems. King's X fans seem to think everybody would love them if only they actually heard them, but frustratingly that's not always the case.
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Or maybe something with more soloing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ2WoTerUX0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ2WoTerUX0)
Or speedier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtN8SqPRtOk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtN8SqPRtOk)
Or heavier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtOb2_3YOCE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtOb2_3YOCE)
Song 1. I'm not listening to some mediocre song just to get to the solo unless it's Michael Schenker.
Song 2. I dig it. Not something I'd listen to. All it has is its pace.
Song 3. That's awful.
:P
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:facepalm:
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:lol
Seriously, I am not a fan. I have tried.
I like some speed, and I like some melody. A lot is made of the harmonized vocals. Great, but the lead vocals aren't very good. And I prefer riffage over strummage.
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Song 3. That's awful.
:P
Mark of a great song!
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Song 3. That's awful.
:P
Mark of a great song!
Indeed it is! :lol
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:lol
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"Out of the Silent Planet" (the album) is SO good too. And it's a debut album!
And, I mean...Goldilox. One of my favorite ballads, evah:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FV3jeqC8lU
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I like some speed, and I like some melody. A lot is made of the harmonized vocals. Great, but the lead vocals aren't very good. And I prefer riffage over strummage.
If "Over My Head" doesn't sell you on Pinnick's vocals I'm not sure what will. Have you heard "It's Love" that was submitted in the roulette? I can see you and king have a long history of going at each for fun, but in all seriousness, that's one of Tabor's vocals instead of Doug's and still pretty riffy, reasonably heavy, and with some nice solos, plus all the harmony vocals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=737QqQBNO_A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=737QqQBNO_A)
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I like some speed, and I like some melody. A lot is made of the harmonized vocals. Great, but the lead vocals aren't very good. And I prefer riffage over strummage.
If "Over My Head" doesn't sell you on Pinnick's vocals I'm not sure what will. Have you heard "It's Love" that was submitted in the roulette? I can see you and king have a long history of going at each for fun, but in all seriousness, that's one of Tabor's vocals instead of Doug's and still pretty riffy, reasonably heavy, and with a nice solo, plus all the harmony vocals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=737QqQBNO_A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=737QqQBNO_A)
Ugh. I just find them so uninteresting.
Not saying they aren't talented or can't sing, but they really don't do what I like in music.
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Man, you just might be doomed in my roulette if we can't even agree on prog metal singers or 80s bands. :p
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I'm not expecting to do well. :lol
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Chiming in on King's X. I like a lot of their songs and own a bunch of their albums, but I rarely listen to them. I really like seeing them live and don't think the energy and heaviness that a lot of their songs have live comes across on the studio versions.
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Tim wouldn't understand. He hates chords.
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Chiming in on King's X. I like a lot of their songs and own a bunch of their albums, but I rarely listen to them. I really like seeing them live and don't think the energy and heaviness that a lot of their songs have live comes across on the studio versions.
Yeah, I can see that.
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They put out a lot of sound for three guys and no backing tracks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQMm1UP35j4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQMm1UP35j4)
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They put out a lot of sound for three guys and no backing tracks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQMm1UP35j4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQMm1UP35j4)
OK, no more Kings X links!! :lol :lol
They're really not my thing.
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I haven't clicked the link but Litho is right about them live in general.
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They put out a lot of sound for three guys and no backing tracks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQMm1UP35j4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQMm1UP35j4)
OK, no more Kings X links!! :lol :lol
They're really not my thing.
You mean your browser doesn't say "Official King's X Thread" at the top of it? :)
We probably have the whole rest of the week to kill before more results are posted anyways. And other people to possibly convince besides certain lost causes. :p
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They put out a lot of sound for three guys and no backing tracks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQMm1UP35j4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQMm1UP35j4)
OK, no more Kings X links!! :lol :lol
They're really not my thing.
I would never have pegged them as a TAC band.
I'm typing some writeups right now; hopefully going to gin up some more controversy soon to save you from King's X :lol
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I summoned him! :rollin
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No. Fucking pummel him with King's X. I want him to suffer. Lol
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If we want him to suffer, why not look to HOF's round 2 submission?
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I already have my roulette submissions for his next one ready to go, loaded with Jelly Jam, Poundhound, KXM, Platypus and more.
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:lol
I've been pummeled the entire page. :lol
If we want him to suffer, why not look to HOF's round 2 submission?
The Italian Winger?
I already have my roulette submissions for his next one ready to go, loaded with Jelly Jam, Poundhound, KXM, Platypus and more.
I sent the next round earlier today.
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I was talking about your next one, but I have my round 5 KO ready to go too. ;)
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If we want him to suffer, why not look to HOF's round 2 submission?
The Italian Winger?
Do it, you know you want to!
Oh, he was talking about actual Kip Winger, not my current submission.
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I was talking about your next one, but I have my round 5 KO ready to go too. ;)
For the record, I think Chris Cornell sucks too. ;D
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I swear you need to be in the concussion protocol.
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Chris Cornell made my top 25 singers list.
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I swear you need to be in the concussion protocol.
My man cave..
(https://static.www.nfl.com/image/private/t_editorial_landscape_12_desktop/league/gofzm9rw0elmj6gpwjnm)
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I know better. It's dark and full of Timism.
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Chris Cornell made my top 25 singers list.
I'd be surprised if he didn't make the final list.
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Incidentally, I do like him, but he's not on my top 25 or even 50. Maybe 75 or 100, which would still be pretty good.
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i sampled song 3 and i agree with tac, somehow:
ew.
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i sampled song 3 and i agree with tac, somehow:
ew.
This is like South Korea agreeing with North Korea.
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Incidentally, I do like him, but he's not on my top 25 or even 50. Maybe 75 or 100, which would still be pretty good.
I like Chris Cornel, but I don’t really care for Soundgarden beyond a few songs and it’s kind of hard to separate the two (and Audioslave even less). His performance on Temple Of The Dog is one of the great vocal performances in rock though.
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Yeah, it's a bit of an example of a vocalist being limited by their various projects. I've heard and enjoyed various Soundgarden, Temple of the Dog, Audioslave, and Cornell solo material, but not much of it especially deeply. When I'm in that mood Alice In Chains hits better, or even a few other grunge or adjacent bands that I might not like as much vocally, but otherwise resonate more.
Hopefully 425 is almost done typing or this might now turn into a Chris Cornell thread. :lol
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Hopefully 425 is almost done typing or this might now turn into a Chris Cornell thread. :lol
I've been sitting here making an extremely difficult decision! Here's Pool Y. Pool Z will be another really tough one, so we'll see what kind of headway I can make on it tonight...
Pool Y:
HOF: Anthonie Tonnon - Two Free Hands / Old Images / Leave Love Out of This
Impression: This makes me feel a strange sort of emotion that I can’t tell if I like.
I gave a sort of strange, ambiguous impression of this, and I have to say I still have a sort of strange, ambiguous feeling about it. I certainly think it’s really well done. And not just that I find the music interesting or like the sound, but that this touches me emotionally in a way that, as I’ve said, I find hard to describe. There’s something comfortable about it, but also something saddening. It might have something to do with what I’m bringing to the music instead of or in addition to something that’s in it, but that’s how I feel about it.
Old Image is emblematic of how I feel about these songs. It feels pretty expansive, and has a combination of a powerful vocal performance and poignant lyrics that paint a sort of melancholy image of a whole life. But Leave Love Out of This is my favorite; I like how it builds from a piano ballad into something that brings together a few different musical elements in the last couple of minutes. The guitar solo is a particularly good touch.
I still find it hard to give an overall impression of this. There’s something I really like about these songs, but they also leave me feeling a bit down, particularly the first two. There is something to be said for that emotional connection, though.
Lethean: Conception - Waywardly Broken / By the Blues / Cardinal Sin
Impression: This is such a cheating submission. Good thing I encourage cheating.
So, yeah, as I’ve tried to stress, this sort of submission is allowed and encouraged. I’ve never heard a note of Conception before this despite being a fan of Roy Khan. I didn’t really have any expectations, but this sort of feels like an exploration of the darker side of late Khan-era Kamelot, which makes a fair degree of sense. It’s a sound that can definitely work for me.
So I like the sound, we know I like the vocals… how do I like the specific songs? Well, Waywardly Broken is pretty strong. It has a certain side of Roy’s unusual melodic sensibility all over it, and that certainly works for me. By the Blues is a little less compelling to me on the verses, but the whole structure of the chorus is enough to make it my favorite of the three songs. Cardinal Sin doesn’t impress me quite as much as the first two. It’s a solid song, but there’s nothing there that really grabs onto me like parts of the others did.
On the whole, though, this is a strong set of songs that definitely persuades me that I’ve ignored this band for too long.
senecadawg2: Serious Black - High and Low / Sealing My Fate / My Mystic Mind
Impression: Initially, this seems like a pretty good but standard example of a genre I enjoy.
Power metal is probably a pretty high-value option in this roulette seeing as it’s a style I definitely like and one that I’ve under-explored, so there are probably numerous good artists that are available. But, lest my review of Fellowship deceive anyone, it’s not a guaranteed round winner, either. So how did Serious Black sit with me? Well, as the impression indicates, I find this to be pretty standard power metal fare. Not really hearing anything novel here. That can be just fine with me, though, if the songs are there.
High and Low is a solid power metal song, nothing that stands out to me as particularly great, but an enjoyable listen. Sealing My Fate, though, is a real step up. I like the dynamics that are present here, and I think this one is epic in a less obvious way. I like the “Follow them blindly, you’ll die” line as a precursor to the even bigger chorus. I don’t like My Mystic Mind quite as well as Sealing My Fate, but I think it’s also pretty good, also a cut above High and Low IMO.
The verdict, then? This is pretty good power metal; I like it well enough to interest me in hearing more, but not so well that it’s an instant favorite.
Vmadera00: Sylvan - On My Odyssey / Overture / About to Leave
Impression: I like the expansive feel of these songs, but the question is whether there will be enough for me to grab onto.
I enjoy the general sound of these songs. This kind of chilled out melodic prog can definitely appeal to me. This is the case with On My Odyssey, where I like the lush sound and the emotional vocals. The chorus of this one is pretty good, too. However, on this one, I feel like the memorable parts a bit too sparse, with some of the in-between sections standing out less to me.
Overture is my favorite of these three tracks, with it definitely feeling like the start of something good. There’s a sense of anticipation, I feel like, on both the vocal section at the beginning and the instrumental part in the second half. About to Leave doesn’t quite pay it off, I don’t think, though it’s a solid song.
My overall impression is that these songs are very solid and that they could well be growers, but also that I’m not blown away by anything here. In part, it’s sort of the sense I have with On My Odyssey. I like their sound and there’s good stuff here, but right now not quite as much as I’d hope for in 15 minutes of music.
Decision:
I feel like I’m saying this a lot this round, but this is a really tough decision. Here there’s not one big standout that blows me away, but four submissions all of which I like pretty well. Looking at these four, I think the one that stood out to me as the least impressive was the Sylvan submission. I liked those songs, but as I mentioned in my writeup, it felt like the strong, memorable moments were a little too sparse.
After going back over the other three submissions, I think I’m actually going to give the top spot to Anthonie Tonnon. Leave Love Out of This is a song that just grows every time I listen to it, and the more I listen to it, the better I feel about the mood it conveys, too. I’d now say pretty confidently it’s my favorite song of the pool, and that’s enough to give this artist the edge in a very close competition.
Now, looking at the two power metal submissions, despite my love for Roy, I think I have to give the slight edge to Serious Black. I just like the three songs a little better on average. Sealing My Fate is my favorite song from either of the two submissions, beating out By the Blues, even though I like that one a lot, too.
HOF/Anthonie Tonnon: 4 points
senecadawg2/Serious Black: 3 points
Lethean/Conception: 2 points
Vmadera00/Sylvan: 1 point
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Solid result! :tup :tup
I agree there's nothing really novel about Serious Black, but I've never been able to identify anything I don't like either. Even the simpler (perhaps more generic) songs like High and Low and My Mystic Mind are a lot of fun I think.
After a couple rounds of more comfortable submissions, I think I'll go for something beyond the metal territory again.
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Decision:
I feel like I’m saying this a lot this round, but this is a really tough decision. Here there’s not one big standout that blows me away, but four submissions all of which I like pretty well. Looking at these four, I think the one that stood out to me as the least impressive was the Sylvan submission. I liked those songs, but as I mentioned in my writeup, it felt like the strong, memorable moments were a little too sparse.
After going back over the other three submissions, I think I’m actually going to give the top spot to Anthonie Tonnon. Leave Love Out of This is a song that just grows every time I listen to it, and the more I listen to it, the better I feel about the mood it conveys, too. I’d now say pretty confidently it’s my favorite song of the pool, and that’s enough to give this artist the edge in a very close competition.
Now, looking at the two power metal submissions, despite my love for Roy, I think I have to give the slight edge to Serious Black. I just like the three songs a little better on average. Sealing My Fate is my favorite song from either of the two submissions, beating out By the Blues, even though I like that one a lot, too.
HOF/Anthonie Tonnon: 4 points
senecadawg2/Serious Black: 3 points
Lethean/Conception: 2 points
Vmadera00/Sylvan: 1 point
Oh yeah! Leave Love Out Of This was definitely the money song here. That album came out last year, and that song still seems to get better every time I hear it. I actually think I get what you mean about the emotional impact of the songs being hard to explain. It’s certainly been an album that has affected me pretty profoundly. He has a very unique way of storytelling, and I think a lot of the songs have a literal meaning (often based on real stories or historical figures), but then they seem to mean something different the way he sings them.
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Oh yeah! Leave Love Out Of This was definitely the money song here. That album came out last year, and that song still seems to get better every time I hear it. I actually think I get what you mean about the emotional impact of the songs being hard to explain. It’s certainly been an album that has affected me pretty profoundly. He has a very unique way of storytelling, and I think a lot of the songs have a literal meaning (often based on real stories or historical figures), but then they seem to mean something different the way he sings them.
I definitely get what you mean about the style of storytelling. I think these songs kind of hit me in a personal place and caught me off guard in that way, but as I listen to them more, it's no longer surprising and I can enjoy connecting with them.
In case anyone is still waiting up, I think I'm going to call it tonight and post Pool Z tomorrow. I have writeups done for all four submissions, and I know the winner, but the remaining three are tough to order. I've been at this for a couple of hours and I want to take a fresh look at those and make sure I have the right decision.
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I was really interested to see how Serious Black fared. I have that album, and it's ok, but I think Roy Kahn is generally overrated by the forum.
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I think Roy Kahn is generally overrated by the forum.
I see you're trying to knock some points off your score too. :p
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I think Roy Kahn is generally overrated by the forum.
I see you're trying to knock some points off your score too. :p
Well, I didn't send him so hopefully I'm safe. :lol
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I was really interested to see how Serious Black fared. I have that album, and it's ok, but I think Roy Kahn is generally overrated by the forum.
I don't know quite what the forum of opinion is of Khan, but he's one of my personal favorites. Interesting that you say this, though, since I think you also have this view of Tommy Karevik, who is fairly similar to Khan (there's a reason Kamelot replaced one with the other), and who is another favorite of mine.
Having made the difficult decision of whose day to ruin, I'm now ready to post the rest of this round's results:
Pool Z:
Buddyhunter1: Cave In - New Reality / Heavy Pendulum / Reckoning
Impression: Not in my wheelhouse, but I find something strangely appealing about it.
This is a submission that I think could have gone badly wrong, because I historically am not a big fan of music with more of a hardcore influence. But these songs are pretty good, and I rather like them.
In particular, the heavy, sludgy(?) sound of Heavy Pendulum is pretty interesting. This is a case where I do like the raspier vocal style; it’s a voice I can sympathize with here and it fits well with the style of the song. There’s almost a Western feeling to this song and especially to Reckoning. That one almost sounds like it would go along with a cowboy movie or something.
New Reality is also a solid piece. The harsh vocals work fine here. But I think it’s the least interesting to me of the three.
Has this submission completely overcome my general preference for a somewhat different style of music? No, I don’t think so; I don’t come away from this feeling that I’ve discovered a new favorite band. But it has convinced me to give more of a chance to this band, which I would never have given a second look at before this submission.
LithoJazzoSphere: Triosphere - My Fortress / Relentless / Marionette
Impression: The first two songs are pretty good, but the third brings in an additional dimension that I really like.
This is another quasi-cheating submission, although I don’t know if you knew that it was. I got The Heart’s Dominion in a previous roulette, and liked it a whole lot. I think I even listened to the whole Heart of the Matter album at that time, but it didn’t catch on with me right away, I never listened to it again, and thus it was legal here.
In any case, yeah, this has convinced me that it isn’t just the one song, I really do like this band. The singer’s voice is really compelling to me, I like her lower register and serious vocal power. My Fortress and Relentless are both good prog-power tracks, featuring some good riffs and strong melodies. Neither is a total blow-me-away track, but they’re both really enjoyable songs.
Marionette is the song that really sells me, though. Here, they step back from the straight prog-power and do something a little different. It’s not, like, a complete stylistic left turn, but the song has some more variety and a more emotional feel (to me) than the other two. A real highlight is around the three-minute mark when the whole piece slows down and there’s a really nice solo and guitar part. It also has this mounting, epic part after the last chorus that really appeals to me. Again, I like the band’s style a lot, and I like all three songs, but Marionette is the standout.
TAC: Amahiru - Hours / Ninja No Tamashii / Samurai
Impression: Quite impressed with the guitar on these.
I definitely like the energy and talent of this band. As I mention in my impression, there’s a lot of good stuff going on guitar-wise. All these songs feel like they move forward at a good clip, bringing a lot of energy to the table, typically without sacrificing melody. Ninja No Tamashii is a good example of an instrumental that feature a lot of soloing but maintains a cohesive and interesting structure.
The vocals are probably the least impressive part of this to me, but they do generally work? There are a lot of different styles thrown in there, but I think they generally work. The Hours chorus stands out as the best vocal part. Really enhances the energy of the song.
I don’t like Samurai as well as the other two songs. It feels like it has the least variety/diversity of the three. It’s not a bad piece, but it’s just not as interesting to me. Still a great solo section.
twosuitsluke: Ghost - Dance Macabre / He Is / Miasma
Impression: Pleasantly surprised by how melody-centric this is.
I was… nervous about this one. I know this band is very popular, but just what people have said about them hasn’t really struck me as this being a band that would be up my alley. But this stuff is pretty cool!
As the impression says, I’m surprised (not sure why, maybe just the quasi-Satanic image?) by how focused these songs are on melody, and in a few different ways. Dance Macabre focuses around a catchy, almost poppy hook; He Is has an almost hymnal, triumphal sound; Miasma is an epic, keyboard-and-saxophone-centric instrumental.
This is a pretty enjoyable set of songs, and one that has definitely convinced me to give this band more of a shot. I think, regrettably, that I gave them less of a chance than I should have because the whole image they’ve created seems pretty hokey to me. I still think that, but the music is undoubtedly strong.
Decision:
There’s one artist here that I’m completely sold on. I like their style a lot, and I also have previously enjoyed a song of theirs, I think I would have ended up at the same point just based on these submissions. I’m talking, of course, about Triosphere. I think with a third song in the vein of the first two, they’d still be serious contenders to win this pool, and the excellence of Marionette leaves no doubt. They take first place.
The other three are close. I’m not in love with any of them, but I like a lot about all three. Definitely one where it’s a tough break for the one that ends up in last place. After running through these again a day after doing the above writeups, though, I think I’m going to order them like this: Second goes to Ghost, third to Amahiru, fourth to Cave In. My favorite song from these three submissions was pretty much a draw between He Is and Hours, followed by Heavy Pendulum. I liked both other Ghost songs better than Samurai and New Reality, and about the same as Ninja No Tamashii and Reckoning. And in turn I liked Samurai better than New Reality. Definitely splitting some hairs here, as I find all three appealing, but in the end I think this corresponds to the order of most to least appealing.
Tough break for those of you who ended up with less than you hoped for. This round and especially this pool are like the equivalent of a sporting event where all the competitors are playing at the top of their game and in some sense deserve to win, but they can’t all come out on top.
LithoJazzoSphere/Triosphere: 4 points
twosuitsluke/Ghost: 3 points
TAC/Amahiru: 2 points
Buddyhunter1/Cave In: 1 point
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I’m claiming the 4 next round!
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I seriously don't understand what people see in Ghost.
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I seriously don't understand what people see in Ghost.
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I seriously don't understand what people see in Ghost.
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I seriously don't understand what people see in Yoda either...
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That is why you are Tim.
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Sent for round 5!
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This is another quasi-cheating submission, although I don’t know if you knew that it was. I got The Heart’s Dominion in a previous roulette, and liked it a whole lot. I think I even listened to the whole Heart of the Matter album at that time, but it didn’t catch on with me right away, I never listened to it again, and thus it was legal here.
When I read the sections about your taste I made a short list of probably a dozen or so candidates to send, and they were one of them. I started working on tentative submissions for each as the roulette went along, and I did notice they weren't on the banned list, but had an individual song banned. I found your writeup for it, and while "The Heart's Dominion" is a different sort of song than the three I sent, your comments about them as a band did give me the impetus to push them towards the front of my queue. So, short answer, I probably would have eventually sent them anyway, but "cheating" urged me to do it sooner. The spread between the point values in these pools is greater, so I feel even more pressure now. :)
I’m claiming the 4 next round!
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According to that hand, the most you can get is a three.
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He's showing you the maximum number of points you can have as long as you're in this pool.
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:lol
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Sent! I'm feeling pretty good about this one.
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Sent. I'm away for the holiday so even though it didn't work out so well this time, I cheated again.
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Sent. I'm away for the holiday so even though it didn't work out so well this time, I cheated again.
See PM. One of your songs really is against the rules.
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Fixed :)
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I may have figured out a groove. We'll see, hopefully by Christmas. :p
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Will send something soon (hopefully)
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Hey 425, you need to clear out your inbox. Tried to send this morning and it was full.
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Sorry, just opened up some space.
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Sent yesterday, btw.
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Yep, I have yours. I have everyone's except King and Luke.
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You can't shame the shameless! I'll have the songs in tonight.
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You can't shame the shameless! I'll have the songs in tonight.
I'll piggy back off that.
I'm posting results for my roulette then I'll figure out something to send.
425, remind me, what is your view on folky type music?
Edit: sent something that I don't think is banned :tup
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I'm back from Holiday - with added COVID ::)
Pleased to see you liked Fellowship, I genuinely think it's one of the best Power Metal albums for a long time, and a debut too.
I've already sent for round 5 and 6 so I'll stick with those for now.
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And sent!
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:corn
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His profile showed him active a couple of hours ago..
425...you gotta check in man. You're in Deadeye territory here.
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I didn't want to bug him and endanger my score, but if you wanna be the thorn in his side and hold the basement, I guess somebody's gotta do it. :tup I think people are more understanding if you at least post something, even if it's over-promising and under-delivering.
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His profile showed him active a couple of hours ago..
425...you gotta check in man. You're in Deadeye territory here.
I know it, sorry. It's been such a busy week for me that I haven't had a day where I felt I could do a reasonable hangman. But I am only a few days out from results. Let's do the hangman now and there will be a relatively quick turnaround between that and results.
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Of note: I've had to make one slight change in the banned list. There was an artist who I listed banned entirely, but based on my approach to this roulette, should have banned only one album of. One person submitted songs I've never heard from other albums by that artist, and, wrongly thinking that I left those legal, I permitted the submissions and have been listening to them. I only realized the error after we were well into the round. So I apologize for the slight weirdness with that, especially if others were hoping to submit that artist. In the interest of candor, I'll name what that artist was once their guessed in the hangman.
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I didn't want to bug him and endanger my score, but if you wanna be the thorn in his side and hold the basement, I guess somebody's gotta do it. :tup I think people are more understanding if you at least post something, even if it's over-promising and under-delivering.
Also, I know we joke around a lot, but in all seriousness, I will never penalize someone's score because they needled me in the thread. And I actually appreciate the occasional nudge.
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His profile showed him active a couple of hours ago..
425...you gotta check in man. You're in Deadeye territory here.
Creepy that you look for who is active.
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Pain of Salvation?
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I didn't want to bug him and endanger my score, but if you wanna be the thorn in his side and hold the basement, I guess somebody's gotta do it. :tup I think people are more understanding if you at least post something, even if it's over-promising and under-delivering.
Also, I know we joke around a lot, but in all seriousness, I will never penalize someone's score because they needled me in the thread. And I actually appreciate the occasional nudge.
Litho is just kissing ass and trying to subliminally have you sink my submission by making you think I was ragging on you. ;D
His profile showed him active a couple of hours ago..
425...you gotta check in man. You're in Deadeye territory here.
Creepy that you look for who is active.
I look for when you are INACTIVE.
I'll take a T in the hangman.
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I'll take the A then :tup
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E.
Litho is just kissing ass and trying to subliminally have you sink my submission by making you think I was ragging on you. ;D
I've read Sun Tzu and Machiavelli, I'll have you know.
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Show me the D.
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That little moment of ecstasy when you find your own submission in the list of blank letters.
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Pain of Salvation?
No. Pain of Salvation is very banned just because I don't want to hear them.
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_e_e_ ____d
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__a_t__ E__te
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Thank You Scientist
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T_e _a___ D_______
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Tears for Fears
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_ea_ __ T_e __at
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Bruce Dickinson
- Tears of the Dragon
- The Tower
- Chemical Wedding
T_e___a__
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Letters used:
T A E D
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Tears for Fears - Sacul
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Thank you Scientist
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Tears for Fears - Sacul
Yes to Tears for Fears, but Sacul isn't in the roulette anymore.
Thank you Scientist
Yes.
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Bruce Dickinson / Tears of the Dragon
Wolfking fo sho
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Tears for Fears - Sacul
Yes to Tears for Fears, but Sacul isn't in the roulette anymore.
I'm still sticking with my guess of Sacul. It's still him, somehow, it's still him.
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Bruce Dickinson / Tears of the Dragon
Wolfking fo sho
It is Bruce Dickinson, and this is the artist I moved off the banned list after receiving the submission and not realizing I mistakenly had him on the banned list. The reason is that I own Accident of Birth, but was never over the moon about it and haven't listened to it in full in many years. My goal was to ban only artists where I have listened to or imminently intend to listen to a large portion of their discography. And after not having listened to a solo Bruce album in like 8 years, I don't think it's fair to say I have any imminent intentions in that regard anymore. I've never heard any of the three songs submitted prior to this roulette round. So in my mind it's in the category of fair game; I was just mistaken to list him as banned in the first place.
And no, it's not wolfking.
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The other Bruce songs are The Tower and Chemical Wedding
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Yes.
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Phantom Elite-Diamonds And Dark-
Sent by Litho
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Phantom Elite-Diamonds And Dark-
Sent by Litho
Yes.
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LithoJazzoSphere: Phantom Elite
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- Diamonds and Dark
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Thank You Scientist
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T_e _an__ D______n
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Bruce Dickinson
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- The Tower
- Chemical Wedding
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Weyes Blood-Andromeda
Did Kingshmegland send Tears For Fears?
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- _e_e_at__n
Revelation?
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Weyes Blood-Andromeda
Did Kingshmegland send Tears For Fears?
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The Tears for Fears songs are:
- Break it Down Again
- Break The Man
- Mad World
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The Tears for Fears songs are:
- Break it Down Again
- Break The Man
- Mad World
Close. One is wrong.
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You running the hangman now??
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You running the hangman now??
I figured if you can run everyone else's roulettes, I can chip in.
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I've read Sun Tzu and Machiavelli, I'll have you know.
Yay! Book Club!
I just finished Glenn Hughes' autobiography.
Now reading Phil Lynott's Bio.
I'll have you know.
You running the hangman now??
I figured if you can run everyone else's roulettes, I can chip in.
:lol
I appreciate the support.
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:lol
Bazinga!
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All the guesses are correct except, as king said, that third Tears for Fears song. Here's the R.
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Weyes Blood
- Andromeda
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LithoJazzoSphere: Phantom Elite
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- Diamonds and Dark
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Thank You Scientist
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T_e _an__ D______n
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kingshmeglandTears for Fears
- Break It Down Again
- Break the Man
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Bruce Dickinson
- Tears of the Dragon
- The Tower
- Chemical Wedding
T_e__ra__
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Show me the O.
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The Tears for Fears songs are:
- Break it Down Again
- Break The Man
- Mad World
Close. One is wrong.
Huh, I have no idea what that third one is then. Can’t think of another song of theirs that ends in “d.” I guess Secret World and Everybody Wants to Rule The World, but those are too long.
Ah, it’s Ladybird.
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Borealis
The Chosen One
The Offering
Sent by Wolfking
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Caverns
Fxmldr
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Edit: Ninja'd by HOF.
Props to King for the first two songs you sent for TFF. Break It Down Again is a definite favorite of mine, and Elemental is a really solid album.
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The Tears for Fears songs are:
- Break it Down Again
- Break The Man
- Mad World
Close. One is wrong.
Huh, I have no idea what that third one is then. Can’t think of another song of theirs that ends in “d.” I guess Secret World and Everybody Wants to Rule The World, but those are too long.
Ah, it’s Ladybird.
Yup yup!
Edit: Ninja'd by HOF.
Props to King for the first two songs you sent for TFF. Break It Down Again is a definite favorite of mine, and Elemental is a really solid album.
I saw them this past summer. 35 years after I 1st saw them. They sounded fantastic. The band they have is amazing.
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An_e_ ___a_d_
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Weyes Blood
- Andromeda
- _o__e_
- ___t_re _e _etter
LithoJazzoSphere: Phantom Elite
- _a_en
- Diamonds and Dark
- T_tan___
wolfking: Borealis
- The Chosen Ones
- Revelation
- The Offering
Thank You Scientist
- Caverns
- FXMLDR
T_e _an__ D_____on
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Ro__et _ot_
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kingshmegland: Tears for Fears
- Break It Down Again
- Break the Man
- Ladybird
_ear O_ T_e _oat
- ___ort__
- ___a
- A_a_t_a
Bruce Dickinson
- Tears of the Dragon
- The Tower
- Chemical Wedding
T_eo_ra__
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Year of the Goat.
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Theocracy. Sent by TAC.
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Edit: Ninja'd by HOF.
Props to King for the first two songs you sent for TFF. Break It Down Again is a definite favorite of mine, and Elemental is a really solid album.
Elemental is an underrated album for sure. Probably my second favorite after Seeds of Love (even over Songs from the Big Chair).
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Powerwolf
Demons Are A Girls Best Friend
Call Of The Wild
Army Of The Night
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Weyes Blood is Sacul, one of the songs is Movies
I'm so smart
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The Panic Division Romdrums?
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Weyes Blood is Sacul, one of the songs is Movies
I'm so smart
Guys literally none of these are sacul
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Weyes Blood is Sacul, one of the songs is Movies
I'm so smart
Guys literally none of these are sacul
:rollin
The OP doesn't have the updated pools so I don't keep track of this shit! Damn who else on here besides Sacul likes Weyes Blood :lol
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Weyes Blood is Sacul, one of the songs is Movies
I'm so smart
Guys literally none of these are sacul
:D
Reminds me of this bit from Family Guy:
https://youtu.be/VbOPpgrTXh8
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Damn who else on here besides Sacul likes Weyes Blood :lol
The problem is that half the damn forum has posted that they've listened to that in the past month, including me.
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Damn who else on here besides Sacul likes Weyes Blood :lol
The problem is that half the damn forum has posted that they've listened to that in the past month, including me.
Representing the half that hasn't. ;D
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Angel Vivaldi
"Sea of Heartbreak"
Last Weyes Blood song is "Picture Me Better".
Theocracy songs are "Ghost Ship" and "Easter".
Rocket Moth
"Roller Coaster"
"Silver Lines"
"Oyster"
Kind of interesting to freely solve whatever I feel like without worrying I'm tipping my hand to what my own submission is since mine was guessed so early. :p
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Damn who else on here besides Sacul likes Weyes Blood :lol
The problem is that half the damn forum has posted that they've listened to that in the past month, including me.
Representing the half that hasn't. ;D
Same here. ;D
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Angel Vivaldi
"Sea of Heartbreak"
Last Weyes Blood song is "Picture Me Better".
Theocracy songs are "Ghost Ship" and "Easter".
Rocket Moth
"Roller Coaster"
"Silver Lines"
"Oyster"
sent by Sacul
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_o_er_o__
- De_on_ Are a __r__ _e_t _r_end
- _a__ O_ T_e ___d
- Ar__ O_ T_e N___t
Powerwolf
Demons Are A Girls Best Friend
Call Of The Wild
Army Of The Night
Give myself away here. I sent 4 Powerwolf songs, did they overrun the 15minutes?
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Angel Vivaldi
"Sea of Heartbreak"
Last Weyes Blood song is "Picture Me Better".
Theocracy songs are "Ghost Ship" and "Easter".
Rocket Moth
"Roller Coaster"
"Silver Lines"
"Oyster"
sent by Sacul
You got me, Sacul sent all of these songs. I kept telling him that he was eliminated and he would only get one submission per round anyway, but he just wouldn't listen to reason. He just kept saying "but theocracy is my favorite band" over and over again.
Also, hi Evermind! I hope you're doing alright.
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- De_on_ Are a __r__ _e_t _r_end
- _a__ O_ T_e ___d
- Ar__ O_ T_e N___t
Powerwolf
Demons Are A Girls Best Friend
Call Of The Wild
Army Of The Night
Give myself away here. I sent 4 Powerwolf songs, did they overrun the 15minutes?
Thanks for catching that—I just forgot to put the fourth one in the hangman. Fixed now.
Updated with correct guesses and the fourth Powerwolf song added:
soupytwist: Powerwolf
- Demons Are A Girls Best Friend
- Call Of The Wild
- Army Of The Night
- Dancing with the Dead
Angel Vivaldi
- _____
- _____
- Sea of Heartbreak
Weyes Blood
- Andromeda
- Movies
- Picture Me Better
LithoJazzoSphere: Phantom Elite
- _a_en
- Diamonds and Dark
- T_tan___
wolfking: Borealis
- The Chosen Ones
- Revelation
- The Offering
Thank You Scientist
- Caverns
- FXMLDR
romdrums: The Panic Division
- ____er R_n__
- __re___e_
- T_ro___ T_e Dar_
Rocket Moth
- Roller Coaster
- Silver Lines
- Oyster
kingshmegland: Tears for Fears
- Break It Down Again
- Break the Man
- Ladybird
Year of the Goat
- ___ort__
- ___a
- A_a_t_a
Bruce Dickinson
- Tears of the Dragon
- The Tower
- Chemical Wedding
TAC: Theocracy
- Ghost Ship
- Easter
Letters used:
T A E D N R O
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Reckon that 4th Powerwolf song is Dancing with the Dead. :rollin
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That's correct, of course. :lol
Are we just... done guessing these? I should have the first set of results up tomorrow, so I'm going to post impressions later today. But I'm happy to keep the hangman going.
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Might be time to populate it and hit us with First Impressions. :)
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I usually stop paying attention to hangman after most of the bands are revealed. Are we supposed to finish it before we get impressions?
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Hey all, just wanted to give an update. I had a lot of stuff come up over the weekend that will require my attention for the rest of this week to the point where I don't have the bandwidth to rank submissions or do writeups right now. Nothing bad, just a lot of work that demands my focus.
I don't want to just leave this hanging, so I wanted to let you know the situation. I think I will be able to turn my attention back to this after this week is over, but don't expect results before then. I will try to get some time in the next day or two to post impressions, though.
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Take your time dude, I'm on board with anything that tricks the others into thinking my roulette is running at a faster pace.
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Now that's hosting done right. :tup
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Take your time dude, I'm on board with anything that tricks the others into thinking my roulette is running at a faster pace.
Hold onto that one... :p