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General => Movies and TV => Topic started by: gmillerdrake on August 18, 2022, 08:22:34 AM
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I checked to see if there was a dedicated thread to this show and all the discussion has been in the GOT thread. So, thought we could discuss this series in it's own spot. Premier set for this Sunday, 8/21. First season has 10 Episodes. Trailers have looked pretty great.....looking forward to seeing if this one captures that 'feel' from GOT that we all fell in love with.
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Cautiously optimistic about it. I do have an idea of the storyline because of the animated feature they included as a bonus disc on the season 7 bluray boxset. That was just a 45 min animation but thought was really cool.
This however will be a longer version of that. I am quite stoked that Miguel Sapochnik is involved in it, he directed Hardhomme and Battle of Bastards along with two in the final season. He had some great ideas for the 3rd episode in season 8 which were all shot down so I'm hoping he can bring interesting ideas to this show.
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Honestly, despite everything i'm very excited for this.
looking forward to seeing if this one captures that 'feel' from GOT that we all fell in love with.
If they just capture some of that I would be quite happy, I don't think this will ever be the same as GOT for various reasons. Of course one could hope for a Better call saul type of thing.
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I am watching this, even though I am philosophically against it.
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I am watching this, even though I am philosophically against it.
Due to what? Do you believe they're just trying to cash in or think that some things should just be left on the page? Or do you hate the Targaryen's?
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I have never watched GOT entirely, me and my wife watch first season and half of the second and stop.
We are planning to watch HOTD and when this one is finish we'll watch GOT is that a good plan?
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You should be fine, House of Dragons takes place a few hundred years prior to the main GoT show.
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I am watching this, even though I am philosophically against it.
Due to what? Do you believe they're just trying to cash in or think that some things should just be left on the page? Or do you hate the Targaryen's?
I hate that Martin spent his time writing the book this show is based on (Fire & Blood) instead of finishing the original series.
I also hate that HBO is starting a show based on this book, even though they will run into the exact same issue they did with Game of Thrones. The book it's based on was supposed to be part 1 of a 2 book series. I'll give you 2 guesses as to whether or not a publication date has been announced.
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GRRM is 73. He'll never finish. I think even he knows it but he just won't come out and say it.
I was on the fence about this but then my wife saw a commercial and got all excited. We did watch the entire GoT together so I guess we will be doing this as well.
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I hate that Martin spent his time writing the book this show is based on (Fire & Blood) instead of finishing the original series.
I also hate that HBO is starting a show based on this book, even though they will run into the exact same issue they did with Game of Thrones. The book it's based on was supposed to be part 1 of a 2 book series. I'll give you 2 guesses as to whether or not a publication date has been announced.
:facepalm: So they didn't learn from their mistake with GOT....well....dang.
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GRRM did blog recently that he was almost done wrapping viewpoint on one or two characters recently for Winds of Winter.
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Early reviews are a bit mixed, especially the reviews based on the first 6 episodes. Seems like these first few episodes span several years.
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Maybe if people around me are very, very excited I will give it
a watch. I have barely seen any material of this, but I have to say I think that wig on Matt Smith looks really bad.
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Thought that was a solid opening episode. I was not ready for the brutality of some sections. Familiar musical cues and some familiar terms, funny to hear things like Vale, hand of the king, Maester with different characters now. I really enjoyed that first episode, nothing really that boombastic, more dialogue driven which I always thought were the strong parts of GoT.
Now have to learn the names of the characters.
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It was a pretty good opening episode and set things up for plenty of tension. As faizoff said, the gore factor was over the top, but in line with some of the more extreme GoT violence.
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I thought that was a really solid first episode.
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It took a minute to figure out all the various sigils, they showed the deer flag and couldn't recall the name until they mentioned Baratheon. Also nice to see the Starks being represented. Going to watch again to catch up on all the references to various houses and alliances.
Kinda wild to see King's Landing and the Red Keep, plus the throne room was fantastic.
Also have to mention the directing by Miguel Sapochnik, the scenes from the knight tournament were so fun to watch. I've always loved his directing, he had interesting ideas on the last few episodes he directed in GoT but were mostly shot down. With him being a showrunner now I imagine he'll have more options.
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I thought it was great - it was fun to be back in Westeros, with a whole new story and characters. I loved how they tied both series together with the prophecy at the end of the episode and the dagger.
It looked and felt just like GoT. Looking forward to next week!
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Quality start, although it feels like the real story will start next week. I'm cautiously optimistic.
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I'm still on the fence of how I feel about this and that may be the case until the season is over, but I must say I was pleasantly surprised by the first episode. It could be some nostalgia of seeing Westeros again and the known houses. I feel like the actors/actress also look very similar to their GOT family members which is pretty neat. We'll see where the story goes, but good start and I'm more intrigued now. The birth scene was really hard to watch, but the directing with that and the tournament was great TV. Also great to have Ramin Djawadi doing the music again. It was different, but similar and portrayed a lot of the same feelings as GOT.
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Agree with the rest of you. Solid first episode that really set up the remainder of the season. But like Faizoff said....Gonna take a bit to get all these names straight though :lol
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I knew that OG king in the beginning looked familiar 'King Jaehaerys Targaryen', so I looked him up, it's played by the guy who played Bib Fortuna lol.
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I am watching this, even though I am philosophically against it.
Due to what? Do you believe they're just trying to cash in or think that some things should just be left on the page? Or do you hate the Targaryen's?
I hate that Martin spent his time writing the book this show is based on (Fire & Blood) instead of finishing the original series.
I also hate that HBO is starting a show based on this book, even though they will run into the exact same issue they did with Game of Thrones. The book it's based on was supposed to be part 1 of a 2 book series. I'll give you 2 guesses as to whether or not a publication date has been announced.
The benefit of a prequel at least is that the major plot points are already set in stone. We know how this story ends already, so the writers can concentrate on the journey and not trying to create a whole narrative from cloth.
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I didn't expect this.
https://www.ign.com/articles/house-of-the-dragon-largest-premiere-in-hbo-history
Game of Thrones prequel House of the Dragon is HBO Max’s biggest premiere ever. The show’s debut episode was watched by 9.986 million viewers across HBO and HBO Max – the largest audience for any new show in HBO’s history.
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I didn't expect this.
https://www.ign.com/articles/house-of-the-dragon-largest-premiere-in-hbo-history
Game of Thrones prequel House of the Dragon is HBO Max’s biggest premiere ever. The show’s debut episode was watched by 9.986 million viewers across HBO and HBO Max – the largest audience for any new show in HBO’s history.
Looks like all the people who were ticked about how the last couple seasons were rushed and watered down etc etc (list your complaint) still tuned in.
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I didn't expect this.
https://www.ign.com/articles/house-of-the-dragon-largest-premiere-in-hbo-history
Game of Thrones prequel House of the Dragon is HBO Max’s biggest premiere ever. The show’s debut episode was watched by 9.986 million viewers across HBO and HBO Max – the largest audience for any new show in HBO’s history.
Looks like all the people who were ticked about how the last couple seasons were rushed and watered down etc etc (list your complaint) still tuned in.
And that would include both myself and my gf and we both enjoyed the episode. I'm not surprised though. I'm sure since HBO max launched, there's more people with access to HBO so with such a new show, there's more people able to watch.
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I didn't expect this.
https://www.ign.com/articles/house-of-the-dragon-largest-premiere-in-hbo-history
Game of Thrones prequel House of the Dragon is HBO Max’s biggest premiere ever. The show’s debut episode was watched by 9.986 million viewers across HBO and HBO Max – the largest audience for any new show in HBO’s history.
Looks like all the people who were ticked about how the last couple seasons were rushed and watered down etc etc (list your complaint) still tuned in.
If D&D were in charge of this one too, I definitely wouldn't have tuned in. I think the differences are pretty evident, even with just this first episode. It felt like GOT used to feel.
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I didn't expect this.
https://www.ign.com/articles/house-of-the-dragon-largest-premiere-in-hbo-history
Game of Thrones prequel House of the Dragon is HBO Max’s biggest premiere ever. The show’s debut episode was watched by 9.986 million viewers across HBO and HBO Max – the largest audience for any new show in HBO’s history.
I heard somewhere that it temporarily crashed their service
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Not a fantasy fan, but I thought the first few episodes of GoT were great. I think, however, that I'll wait until it's finished to watch it at my pace if I decide to.
Hopefully the good reviews keep up.
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I didn't expect this.
https://www.ign.com/articles/house-of-the-dragon-largest-premiere-in-hbo-history
Game of Thrones prequel House of the Dragon is HBO Max’s biggest premiere ever. The show’s debut episode was watched by 9.986 million viewers across HBO and HBO Max – the largest audience for any new show in HBO’s history.
I'm not surprised. When I went for the GoT music concert after the series ended, it was in a venue that could hold 15,000 people. It was almost packed. and the crowd cheered for most of the season 8 visuals. I don't think the internet reaction fully captures GoT popularity.
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I don't think the internet reaction fully captures GoT popularity.
I don't know a single person IRL who enjoyed the GOT ending. It seems, from my POV, that the internet response was very similar to what I see when I talk to friends about it in person. But I think it's a mix of more eyeballs who can watch HBO today compared to previous GOT or other record breaking viewership moments plus the large amount of people who want to check it out like myself and it seems many here. I wouldn't be surprised if episode 2 has a large viewership as well. I think some people didn't even watch the show on Sunday and waited until hearing from others before watching and most people I've talked to seemed to like episode 1.
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I don't think the internet reaction fully captures GoT popularity.
I don't know a single person IRL who enjoyed the GOT ending. It seems, from my POV, that the internet response was very similar to what I see when I talk to friends about it in person.
At the time....after reading all about the actors/actresses that were pretty much 'over' their roles and ready to move basically forcing a quicker resolution to the story.....I was 'fine' with how the show ended. The first handful of seasons were incredible....last couple were just 'alright' and it's no coincidence the show went downhill once the source material dried up.
My largest issue with it as I look back on it is the fact that Jon didn't kill the night King and wasn't proclaimed 'king' in the end was a massive deviation from what was being set up the entire time. His resurrection was voided as pointless and his lineage wasn't important either in the end and both were massive storylines and points being made.....all for nothing. Horrible writing.... Having Arya be the one who killed the night king was 100% placating to the #meetoo vibe at the time and didn't fit the show at all.
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But wasn't Arya beig trained to becoming an assassin? What's the big deal with her being the one to kill the night king then? Her storyline otherwise would have been pointless too.
Now here's a thought: GRRM has created a wonderful world, but there's too much happening and there's no way he can wrap up everything while still making sense.
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But wasn't Arya beig trained to becoming an assassin? What's the big deal with her being the one to kill the night king then? Her storyline otherwise would have been pointless too.
Now here's a thought: GRRM has created a wonderful world, but there's too much happening and there's no way he can wrap up everything while still making sense.
He's been saying he wanted GOT to be much longer, over 10 seasons now. It probably would have taken that long to write his way out of his story. I do think GRR is a big part of the blame. But he's also part of the success and may be the reason why HoD could be very good.
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My main issue with how the main series ended was just how rushed everything was at the end. Daenerys succumbing to her darker side could have worked if they had spent more than 4 episodes building it up, as opposed to the 6 series that showed her having a nasty streak but fundamentally one who cared about justice for the common people. And resolving the night king storyline in a single episode fight just seemed....eh.
This new series interests me however. With a new cast free of the baggage of the prior series and a plot that is at least complete in the skeletal sense, I look forward to seeing what can be done with it.
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I enjoyed the opening but it felt a bit bittersweet being back in Westeros again.
I don't think the internet reaction fully captures GoT popularity.
I don't know a single person IRL who enjoyed the GOT ending. It seems, from my POV, that the internet response was very similar to what I see when I talk to friends about it in person.
My largest issue with it as I look back on it is the fact that Jon didn't kill the night King and wasn't proclaimed 'king' in the end was a massive deviation from what was being set up the entire time. His resurrection was voided as pointless and his lineage wasn't important either in the end and both were massive storylines and points being made.....all for nothing.
That's the one thing that kinda hurts thinking back on GOT. I still get chills thinking back on Battle of Bastards when Jon faced a charging cavalry, for me that's when Jon path to the throne was set.
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I don't think the internet reaction fully captures GoT popularity.
I don't know a single person IRL who enjoyed the GOT ending. It seems, from my POV, that the internet response was very similar to what I see when I talk to friends about it in person.
At the time....after reading all about the actors/actresses that were pretty much 'over' their roles and ready to move basically forcing a quicker resolution to the story.....I was 'fine' with how the show ended. The first handful of seasons were incredible....last couple were just 'alright' and it's no coincidence the show went downhill once the source material dried up.
My largest issue with it as I look back on it is the fact that Jon didn't kill the night King and wasn't proclaimed 'king' in the end was a massive deviation from what was being set up the entire time. His resurrection was voided as pointless and his lineage wasn't important either in the end and both were massive storylines and points being made.....all for nothing. Horrible writing.... Having Arya be the one who killed the night king was 100% placating to the #meetoo vibe at the time and didn't fit the show at all.
Arya was the only one who constantly trained for one thing, to kill in as many ways as possible. She was hands down the most dangerous person on that show, character development that was well in place for multiple seasons. She was destined to kill at least one major baddie, if not more. If I remember correctly, she got the Night King and also served Frey a pie made of his kin before slicing his fucking throat, and again, this was the arc she was on from the beginning. Placating the me too crowd? C'mon man....
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Didn't the show open with Arya training, or shooting an arrow or something?
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Didn't the show open with Arya training, or shooting an arrow or something?
Yup, from the first moment, her arc was in motion. Also, we can't deny the importance of the valyrian steel dagger's arc as well, with how much history and drama it went through, we could see it was destined for greatness as well.
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It suggesting Arya’s arc wasn’t cool or important. BUT……Jon Snows was more involved and key. He came back from the freaking dead……unifies everyone…..was the true heir to the throne…..the whole show was based around him more or less
Arya killing the night King was just those two d bags trying to be crafty or sly. Didn’t fit the story at all.
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It made total sense to me...
And I won't speculate on how you make the jump saying that Arya killing the Night King is meant to placate a movement designed to provide strength and awareness to sexual harassment and abuse survivors, how the fuck does one even make that leap?
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It made total sense to me...
Yeah…..it’s something that no matter the argument or point that would try to be made behind it will not change my mind on it. That story never had a hint of Arya being ‘the one’ to kill him. It was always meant to be Jon…..from the prophecy’s and everything that happened with his character. Her being the one was for shock value and them outsmarting themselves. Heck….watch the behind the scenes of all the actors reading the script for the first time…..they’re all shocked…errrr…..dumbfounded that she was the one who killed him.
And I won't speculate on how you make the jump saying that Arya killing the Night King is meant to placate a movement designed to provide strength and awareness to sexual harassment and abuse survivors, how the fuck does one even make that leap?
Maybe the #meetoo wasn’t the right way to say it. That finale was right in the thick of everything girl power. Rey being some super powerful Jedi with near zero training…..Captain Marvel was hitting the scene…..it was right as that was all going down. I think they tries to shoehorn themselves into the crowd with that move.
(I’m not saying that like I think that movement was/is a bad thing, doesn’t mean you ruin a story that’s been set up for 8 seasons though just to be part of the ‘in’ crowd)
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I am watching this, even though I am philosophically against it.
Due to what? Do you believe they're just trying to cash in or think that some things should just be left on the page? Or do you hate the Targaryen's?
I hate that Martin spent his time writing the book this show is based on (Fire & Blood) instead of finishing the original series.
I also hate that HBO is starting a show based on this book, even though they will run into the exact same issue they did with Game of Thrones. The book it's based on was supposed to be part 1 of a 2 book series. I'll give you 2 guesses as to whether or not a publication date has been announced.
From what I've read on the houseofthedragon subreddit, it seems that the source material for this story is already finished. It's 7 chapters out of a 24 chapter history book. It's a book of stories and histories, somewhat similar to The Silmarillion. They already have everything they need for this show. So with that, I remain optimistic that they avoid a GoT ending and stick the landing.
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My largest issue with it as I look back on it is the fact that Jon didn't kill the night King and wasn't proclaimed 'king' in the end was a massive deviation from what was being set up the entire time. His resurrection was voided as pointless and his lineage wasn't important either in the end and both were massive storylines and points being made.....all for nothing. Horrible writing.... Having Arya be the one who killed the night king was 100% placating to the #meetoo vibe at the time and didn't fit the show at all.
I feel that this is the entire point of the story - that everyone around a person (Jon Snow) can build them up and say "this is who you truly are," but that person can say "no, it's not who I am" and walk away. He is a Targaryan by blood, but yet, he was raised as a Stark and he remains a Stark - he has the free will to choose who he wants to be.
I never had a problem with GOT season 8 or the finale, I just accepted it as it was. I wasn't going to get mad because it didn't align with what I wanted to happen. I don't think Arya killing the Night King happened just because she's female. It's because she trained to be a badass ninja assassin - and if you take the end of this episode of House of the Dragon into account, she possessed the knife that was handed down by Targaryan kings that was part of the belief of how to solve the threat to the realm. In that moment, she was the one with the skills and the weapon to handle the problem when everyone else (including Jon Snow) had failed.
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I don't think the internet reaction fully captures GoT popularity.
I don't know a single person IRL who enjoyed the GOT ending. It seems, from my POV, that the internet response was very similar to what I see when I talk to friends about it in person.
At the time....after reading all about the actors/actresses that were pretty much 'over' their roles and ready to move basically forcing a quicker resolution to the story.....I was 'fine' with how the show ended. The first handful of seasons were incredible....last couple were just 'alright' and it's no coincidence the show went downhill once the source material dried up.
My largest issue with it as I look back on it is the fact that Jon didn't kill the night King and wasn't proclaimed 'king' in the end was a massive deviation from what was being set up the entire time. His resurrection was voided as pointless and his lineage wasn't important either in the end and both were massive storylines and points being made.....all for nothing. Horrible writing.... Having Arya be the one who killed the night king was 100% placating to the #meetoo vibe at the time and didn't fit the show at all.
Arya was the only one who constantly trained for one thing, to kill in as many ways as possible. She was hands down the most dangerous person on that show, character development that was well in place for multiple seasons. She was destined to kill at least one major baddie, if not more. If I remember correctly, she got the Night King and also served Frey a pie made of his kin before slicing his fucking throat, and again, this was the arc she was on from the beginning. Placating the me too crowd? C'mon man....
The Frey pie should have been her full circle arc after being at the Red Wedding. The Night King should have been Jon IMO.
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My largest issue with it as I look back on it is the fact that Jon didn't kill the night King and wasn't proclaimed 'king' in the end was a massive deviation from what was being set up the entire time. His resurrection was voided as pointless and his lineage wasn't important either in the end and both were massive storylines and points being made.....all for nothing. Horrible writing.... Having Arya be the one who killed the night king was 100% placating to the #meetoo vibe at the time and didn't fit the show at all.
I feel that this is the entire point of the story - that everyone around a person (Jon Snow) can build them up and say "this is who you truly are," but that person can say "no, it's not who I am" and walk away. He is a Targaryan by blood, but yet, he was raised as a Stark and he remains a Stark - he has the free will to choose who he wants to be.
I never had a problem with GOT season 8 or the finale, I just accepted it as it was. I wasn't going to get mad because it didn't align with what I wanted to happen. I don't think Arya killing the Night King happened just because she's female. It's because she trained to be a badass ninja assassin - and if you take the end of this episode of House of the Dragon into account, she possessed the knife that was handed down by Targaryan kings that was part of the belief of how to solve the threat to the realm. In that moment, she was the one with the skills and the weapon to handle the problem when everyone else (including Jon Snow) had failed.
I have not read the source material so maybe there's a specific line or passage that details that knife.....but....that's something pretty easy to add to HOTD to tie into what happened in GOT.
I'm not disagreeing that she was a badass, trained assassin. Clearly she was. But for me....and many....her killing the night king didn't fit the story. More power to those of you who didn't mind it, we all have opinions and that's cool. I'm certainly not trying to say "I'm right...you're wrong" As I mentioned a couple times, for me it felt forced....felt like a cheap trick to try and seem sly or clever....took away from the underlying theme they'd built since day one with Jon Snow.....and it didn't work, for me.
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I was not ready for the brutality of some sections.
From your other comments, you seemed to have watched at least some of the episodes of GOT. So....just the hiatus had you psychologically sedentary?
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I was not ready for the brutality of some C-sections.
From your other comments, you seemed to have watched at least some of the episodes of GOT. So....just the hiatus had you psychologically sedentary?
I've seen the entire GoT like 5 times over, own the books paperback and audible versions. Own the blu-ray and 4k boxsets, pored over all the extra bonus content, listened to all commentaries, have all the soundtracks ;D :loser:
I was trying to be clever with my comment, didn't look like anyone caught on. :biggrin: I am plenty ready for the violence lol.
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I was not ready for the brutality of some C-sections.
From your other comments, you seemed to have watched at least some of the episodes of GOT. So....just the hiatus had you psychologically sedentary?
I've seen the entire GoT like 5 times over, own the books paperback and audible versions. Own the blu-ray and 4k boxsets, pored over all the extra bonus content, listened to all commentaries, have all the soundtracks ;D :loser:
I was trying to be clever with my comment, didn't look like anyone caught on. :biggrin: I am plenty ready for the violence lol.
:facepalm:...I'll try to be more tuned in to the facetiousness next time! :tup
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I didn't expect this.
https://www.ign.com/articles/house-of-the-dragon-largest-premiere-in-hbo-history
Game of Thrones prequel House of the Dragon is HBO Max’s biggest premiere ever. The show’s debut episode was watched by 9.986 million viewers across HBO and HBO Max – the largest audience for any new show in HBO’s history.
I'm not surprised. When I went for the GoT music concert after the series ended, it was in a venue that could hold 15,000 people. It was almost packed. and the crowd cheered for most of the season 8 visuals. I don't think the internet reaction fully captures GoT popularity.
I am not surprised this show does well. I am rooting for this show and different people are involved.
But season 8 definitely did damage, at least where I live.
It was the next in line of the liked of Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Marvel in terms of merchandise mainstay. Three of those brands were always present in stores and nerd circles despite not having new major entries in many years. I had several housemates with GOT posters on their doors and clothing articles in my student time. We even had an official GOT cooking book we used. But After season 8, pretty much all merch went into the bargain bins here and the brand dissapeared from being a common sight everywhere.
As for the record viewerships, HBO max was not an accessible thing in many countries during Game of Thrones. In The Netherlands I don't know a single person that watched it legally because HBO was locked behind an internet provider me and others did not have acces to. It was the most pirated show ever I believe, worldwide (talking about 8+ million of downloads on torrents alone for a single episode at the end of s8). There are many more legit viewers now, HBO max is fairly cheap. That does help the numbers significantly I feel.
GOT is obviously still huge and this new series has big potential, but if it had sticked the landing it would be in a much better state and that is a damn shame.
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I am watching this, even though I am philosophically against it.
Due to what? Do you believe they're just trying to cash in or think that some things should just be left on the page? Or do you hate the Targaryen's?
I hate that Martin spent his time writing the book this show is based on (Fire & Blood) instead of finishing the original series.
I also hate that HBO is starting a show based on this book, even though they will run into the exact same issue they did with Game of Thrones. The book it's based on was supposed to be part 1 of a 2 book series. I'll give you 2 guesses as to whether or not a publication date has been announced.
From what I've read on the houseofthedragon subreddit, it seems that the source material for this story is already finished. It's 7 chapters out of a 24 chapter history book. It's a book of stories and histories, somewhat similar to The Silmarillion. They already have everything they need for this show. So with that, I remain optimistic that they avoid a GoT ending and stick the landing.
Do we know how many seasons that's planned?
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I am watching this, even though I am philosophically against it.
Due to what? Do you believe they're just trying to cash in or think that some things should just be left on the page? Or do you hate the Targaryen's?
I hate that Martin spent his time writing the book this show is based on (Fire & Blood) instead of finishing the original series.
I also hate that HBO is starting a show based on this book, even though they will run into the exact same issue they did with Game of Thrones. The book it's based on was supposed to be part 1 of a 2 book series. I'll give you 2 guesses as to whether or not a publication date has been announced.
From what I've read on the houseofthedragon subreddit, it seems that the source material for this story is already finished. It's 7 chapters out of a 24 chapter history book. It's a book of stories and histories, somewhat similar to The Silmarillion. They already have everything they need for this show. So with that, I remain optimistic that they avoid a GoT ending and stick the landing.
Do we know how many seasons that's planned?
Today they announced that season 2 is a go.
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It was a pretty good first episode.
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No murders tonight, and lots of dialogue.
Yea!!! A chance to learn some background, get our curiosity up, along with quite the stand off. :tup
Oh, and dragons! :tup :tup
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Good episode...
The one complaint I'm forseeing, is that it seems the story is very focused and moving with a very predictable purpose. There's no real intrigue...I think we all saw Alicent becoming the queen to be for example. There moving too quickly with this one story, and not taking their time developing the broader world. We'll see how it goes, but I'm not seeing this changing too much.
Still, I'm fully enjoying the show. :tup
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Solid episode…..loved when the Princess crashed the party at Dragonstone.
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Agree with everyone, 2nd episode was fantastic.
The new title sequence animation was great, on 2nd watch realized it was the bloodline depicted (hence all that blood flowing) I would have personally preferred them using a variation of the main theme but no complaints on using the same them of GoT.
The moves by each group was great, I'm loving this new Littlefinger type character of Otto. He isn't quite evil like LF but has this vibe of self importance.
Love the character Corlys, the actor has such a commanding on-screen presence.
I think by far the favorite scene was the one in Dragonstone, everything was great about it.
So many things setup in that episode, can't wait to see them unfold.
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Episode was pretty good.
It seems like with all the money being spent on this show, they could have afforded a new piece of theme music. *shrugs*
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Episode was pretty good.
It seems like with all the money being spent on this show, they could have afforded a new piece of theme music. *shrugs*
I liken it to the Star Wars main theme. It's so iconic that it's used in every show/movie that's a part of the franchise.
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Episode was pretty good.
It seems like with all the money being spent on this show, they could have afforded a new piece of theme music. *shrugs*
I liken it to the Star Wars main theme. It's so iconic that it's used in every show/movie that's a part of the franchise.
Yeah....that's how I see it. At first I was a little put off by it but then just figured....it's fine. They're in a 'no win' situation there anyway. Even if they came up with a 'new' theme for the show it'd fall short of the iconic GOT intro theme and get lambasted for not living up to it. Might as well make it a franchise tagline and call it even. Neat visual intro though.
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The one complaint I'm forseeing, is that it seems the story is very focused and moving with a very predictable purpose. There's no real intrigue...I think we all saw Alicent becoming the queen to be for example. There moving too quickly with this one story, and not taking their time developing the broader world. We'll see how it goes, but I'm not seeing this changing too much.
Sure, but I don't think it was meant to be a surprise. I saw as it as a story about Corlys and Otto's schemings and using their daughters to that end. They both wanted a line to the throne - Corlys was too direct and it backfired, Otto was subtle and bided his time, getting Alicent to simply offer comfort as soon as Aemma died because he knew it wouldn't be that long until Viserys was compelled to find a new wife, and he's evidently a better reader of people than Corlys. So Otto's game worked (for now) but Alicent is a pawn in that game (again, for now).
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Awesome episode!
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Really good episode. This show is off to a great start.
As for the intro, I wish they changed the theme song slightly. They changed the way the opening animations work, but it's still similar. Something like that to the theme song would have been better IMO. Having said that, the music is iconic so I can see why they made that decision.
I'm not ready to talk too much about the directness of the plot. It's still early which means all these things we feel are predictable... well maybe won't turn out as we think? I have heard from other people their real only complaint is the plot feels predictable as well. I'm not ready to go down that path yet although I do see why people feel that way.
The Dragonstone scene was awesome.
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I read an unfortunate spoiler yesterday that might explain why the plot feels the way it does right now.
(Apparently there's going to be a 10 year time jump in the middle of the season and all the child actors are going to be replaced with older ones. The first few episodes might strictly be for giving us a backstory and frame of reference)
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I read an unfortunate spoiler yesterday that might explain why the plot feels the way it does right now.
(Apparently there's going to be a 10 year time jump in the middle of the season and all the child actors are going to be replaced with older ones. The first few episodes might strictly be for giving us a backstory and frame of reference)
Was that a spoiler? I feel like that was talked about leading into the series.....at least.....I know I was aware that was an aspect of the show that would transpire in the first season. Anyway, I think that'll be an interesting feature for sure.
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I read an unfortunate spoiler yesterday that might explain why the plot feels the way it does right now.
(Apparently there's going to be a 10 year time jump in the middle of the season and all the child actors are going to be replaced with older ones. The first few episodes might strictly be for giving us a backstory and frame of reference)
Was that a spoiler? I feel like that was talked about leading into the series.....at least.....I know I was aware that was an aspect of the show that would transpire in the first season. Anyway, I think that'll be an interesting feature for sure.
It was a spoiler for me :lol Yesterday was the first time I heard that was happening. I thought it was new information being divulged.
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I read an unfortunate spoiler yesterday that might explain why the plot feels the way it does right now.
(Apparently there's going to be a 10 year time jump in the middle of the season and all the child actors are going to be replaced with older ones. The first few episodes might strictly be for giving us a backstory and frame of reference)
Was that a spoiler? I feel like that was talked about leading into the series.....at least.....I know I was aware that was an aspect of the show that would transpire in the first season. Anyway, I think that'll be an interesting feature for sure.
It was a spoiler for me :lol Yesterday was the first time I heard that was happening. I thought it was new information being divulged.
I recall reading an article before the series began that divulged that info......maybe it was spoilerish in the article but I had thought that it was understood they were taking that approach. Especially considering a lot of the previews and teaser trailers depict multiple incarnations of said "spoiler info"
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I read an unfortunate spoiler yesterday that might explain why the plot feels the way it does right now.
(Apparently there's going to be a 10 year time jump in the middle of the season and all the child actors are going to be replaced with older ones. The first few episodes might strictly be for giving us a backstory and frame of reference)
Was that a spoiler? I feel like that was talked about leading into the series.....at least.....I know I was aware that was an aspect of the show that would transpire in the first season. Anyway, I think that'll be an interesting feature for sure.
It was a spoiler for me :lol Yesterday was the first time I heard that was happening. I thought it was new information being divulged.
I recall reading an article before the series began that divulged that info......maybe it was spoilerish in the article but I had thought that it was understood they were taking that approach. Especially considering a lot of the previews and teaser trailers depict multiple incarnations of said "spoiler info"
If you have been following the info on the show at all, this definitely isn't a spoiler. If you come into watching the show blind without any previous production info etc including even seeing photos of the premier then I could see how this could be considered a very minor spoiler.
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Gotcha. Yeah, I followed zero press for this. I didn't even watch the trailer prior to the first episode.
Carry on!
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I agree that I was kinda suprised hearing the GOT theme but at the same time I understand why they used it. It's such a iconic theme at this point. However a variation would've been nice and pretty safe to do I feel.
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It was another solid episode. The scenes with Rhaenyra are always so good, that actress really steals the scenes she's in. I also like the Valerian characters, they have a regal look to them.
I also like how the time passage between episodes grows larger and larger, not sure if the book is structured that way though from what I have read so far it's following pretty closely so far.
Seeing different types of dragons is really cool too. I do wish we could've seen more of the Crab king development in the previous episodes, he's a mystery character and I would've liked to have seen more of that land.
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Solid episode. Although visually amazing, I thought the Prince played by Matt Smith Vs the crab army was little to superhero for the groundedness of the series in general.
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Enjoying the show a lot. It's pretty solid. I loved the juxtaposition in this last episode of the King having the Stag captured and held for him to deliver the killing blows vs the Princess being attacked by a violent wild boar...which....while she received some help from the knight....she still delivered the killing blows as the beast refused to die and kept at her.
The scenes with Rhaenyra are always so good, that actress really steals the scenes she's in.
Very true....she is great. It's a bummer she's going to 'age out' to a new actress with these time jumps.
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Another good episode. This season has been great so far.
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Best episode yet.
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I've seen a few negative comments about the show not having enough action... but GOT was always like this until the end where there were more and more battle scenes. Full episodes of dialogue are pretty normal IMO for this type of show. BUt even then, I don't think there was a moment of boredom in that episode. However, at 70 minutes length, I can see how it does start to wear on people. I think it also helps that the actors are once again really strong. I'm loving the guy who plays the King. He's doing a great job.
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I'm really digging Paddy Considine's portrayal of Viserys. Even in the last episode he admitted that he's not much of a warrior but you can tell he has a temper and can be 'forceful'.....but his restraint is 'just' perfect enough to pull off the stateman aspect of a king....but it's like right on the edge of losing it completely.
The remainder of the main cast as well is just killing it.....I am just really enjoying the kings portrayal.
***njnja'd by Marc :lol****
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:lol the praise is deserved
But with all his sores getting worse, I'm pretty sure this story is not about him. I get the feeling he is the Ned Stark here without the shock value. Great actor for the first season and a main character but the story just starts with him.
The remainder of the main cast as well is just killing it.....I am just really enjoying the kings portrayal.
And also agreed, the entire cast is doing really well here, just had to give props to the one who stood out the most to me.
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I think it also helps that the actors are once again really strong. I'm loving the guy who plays the King. He's doing a great job.
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:lol
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Dang! Good episode….not quite Red Wedding level but sure has its own claim to Debbie Downer for a celebration
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Shit got real last night.
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Fantastic episode.
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These last two episodes have been almost entirely dialog driven and have been excellent. Probably two of the best episodes of the series back to back. I don't know about anyone else, but these episodes even though have been an hour long feel like they go by so fast. That's what I love about these long dialog scenes and they're edited so well. Great acting all round again.
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That was a solid episode. I love the little variation of The Rains of Castamere melody in the piano at the end or atleast I think that was a nod.
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Great start and end to this week's episode. In the beginning, I saw Daemon pick up the rock and thought "welp, we're about to see some brutal shit", only to not see it and find out he staged it as an accident and didn't mutilate her. And then at the end, the last person I'd suspect, beats someone's head into a bloody pulp with his bare fists.
I was very tired approaching the end of the episode, and may have nodded off for like 45-60 seconds during the wedding leading up to that scene. What triggered that outburst? Was it just a fit of rage because he wasn't getting Rhaenyra?
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Great start and end to this week's episode. In the beginning, I saw Daemon pick up the rock and thought "welp, we're about to see some brutal shit", only to not see it and find out he staged it as an accident and didn't mutilate her. And then at the end, the last person I'd suspect, beats someone's head into a bloody pulp with his bare fists.
I was very tired approaching the end of the episode, and may have nodded off for like 45-60 seconds during the wedding leading up to that scene. What triggered that outburst? Was it just a fit of rage because he wasn't getting Rhaenyra?
It was because the boyfriend of Rhaenyra's betrothed told him he knew his secret about sleeping with her.
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Great start and end to this week's episode. In the beginning, I saw Daemon pick up the rock and thought "welp, we're about to see some brutal shit", only to not see it and find out he staged it as an accident and didn't mutilate her. And then at the end, the last person I'd suspect, beats someone's head into a bloody pulp with his bare fists.
I was very tired approaching the end of the episode, and may have nodded off for like 45-60 seconds during the wedding leading up to that scene. What triggered that outburst? Was it just a fit of rage because he wasn't getting Rhaenyra?
Pretty much.....and what RJ said.......and maybe he was still tore up that he broke his vow/word as a Knight? Could have been a combination of them all just festering for a bit. But I don't think that there was much else to it.....there was a hint that maybe the Queen was involved in some way but not real clear on that.
I too noticed the head trauma flip of us all thinking we're going to see this sinister character Daemon bash in a chic's head....but not....it's only implied.....then BOOM....you have this 'honorable' knight going ape on some dude's skull!!!
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The queen is fucking shady.... I don't buy that innocent shit for one second, she's gonna go full batshit to make sure her kid ascends to the throne.
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The queen is fucking shady.... I don't buy that innocent shit for one second, she's gonna go full batshit to make sure her kid ascends to the throne.
Yep. She started off 'innocent'....but as she's observing the politics of it all she's become a quick understudy and I'm sure we will see some Cersi Lannister style manipulation out of her as it unfolds.
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Her father also gave her that whole "play the game or die" pep talk before he took off.
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Her father also gave her that whole "play the game or die" pep talk before he took off.
Very true....guess she's getting in the game.
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Watched it last night. Sometimes it's hard to remember that this is a long-burn type show and that it's all building to something.
I'm super bummed that we've now seen the last of Milly Alcock and Emily Carey (particularly the former).
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Watched it last night. Sometimes it's hard to remember that this is a long-burn type show and that it's all building to something.
I'm super bummed that we've now seen the last of Milly Alcock and Emily Carey (particularly the former).
I know I'm way late to the party, but last night I saw what the older versions of the actresses/characters will look like for the first time. It's incredible how closely they resemble each other.
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Strong rumors Lizzie Olsen (and Henry Cavill) is joining the cast . . . I might have to start watching this.
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Watched it last night. Sometimes it's hard to remember that this is a long-burn type show and that it's all building to something.
I'm super bummed that we've now seen the last of Milly Alcock and Emily Carey (particularly the former).
I know I'm way late to the party, but last night I saw what the older versions of the actresses/characters will look like for the first time. It's incredible how closely they resemble each other.
Yeah.....the casting of the characters who've aged is pretty on point. I'm hoping those actors/actresses can capture the essence of the characters that has been established by the younger versions because they were top notch
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:clap:
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Strong rumors Lizzie Olsen (and Henry Cavill) is joining the cast . . . I might have to start watching this.
Holy shit! I hope Henry Cavil plays Aegon the third!
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The dragons in this episode were great, a nice change seeing them as a character with some type of personality. These episodes go by so fast.
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Fantastic episode. Just……wow.
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Definitely didn't see that coming. Great episode.
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Definitely didn't see that coming. Great episode.
I am liking the pace of this show more and more. Just moving it right along.....kind of indicates that they maybe only have a two or three year run in mind? I haven't looked into how many seasons they're planning with this show....but at this pace I can't imagine it'll be more than three seasons if it can even make it that far.
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Yeah, great episode last night. Totally did not see the twists.
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Yeah, great episode last night. Totally did not see the twists.
Same here. Week after week, I am surprised by one thing or another. I didn't think I'd like the time jump, but it's pure genius. I didn't think I'd like the cast switch, but, again, it's pure genius.
Talk about a show exceeding any and all expectations!
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Definitely exceeding expectations, as are Andor and Rings of Power. Some top notch television right now for sure.
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Definitely exceeding expectations, as are Andor and Rings of Power. Somyop notch television right now for sure. e
Looks like King got ahold of RJ's phone and tried to post :biggrin:
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Lol fix'd
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Agree with everyone else on how top notch this show has been so far.
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I'm not as convinced so far by the time jump and recasting. Most of the main cast just feel like completely different characters now- I think possibly more due to the change in writing after the time jump than the change in cast but probably a bit of both.
Also unrelated but so much of the latest episode was ridiculously dark (visually), I could hardly see a thing at times.
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Man. What a freaking episode! That might have been the best one yet. That fight scene with the kids...wow. So well done.
I was on the fence about the actor changes, but I'm fine with it now. There's no way we could have gotten the sex scene with Daemon and whatever is likely to come with the original actress. I don't think the optics would have been great for HBO.
+1 on the episode being too dark comment.
Definitely didn't see that coming. Great episode.
I am liking the pace of this show more and more. Just moving it right along.....kind of indicates that they maybe only have a two or three year run in mind? I haven't looked into how many seasons they're planning with this show....but at this pace I can't imagine it'll be more than three seasons if it can even make it that far.
I don't know. Why not just let it run? Is there any reason why they couldn't just keep time hopping here and there, eventually getting us into the OG GOT timeline? I think there's plenty of lore to explore, with or without book equivalents.
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I don't know. Why not just let it run? Is there any reason why they couldn't just keep time hopping here and there, eventually getting us into the OG GOT timeline? I think there's plenty of lore to explore, with or without book equivalents.
I'd be on board for that! I have not read the books so I only know the 'history' from what the OG show shared....but there seems to be plenty of content there to fill the gap from what we're seeing now in HOTD to when we pick up in GOT.
I'd personally love to see a little 6 episode hit of the Battle of the Trident.
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Also unrelated but so much of the latest episode was ridiculously dark (visually), I could hardly see a thing at times.
This was my only complaint.
Looks like the sides are drawn up. Now we just need the king to die and the fun can start!
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Also unrelated but so much of the latest episode was ridiculously dark (visually), I could hardly see a thing at times.
This was my only complaint.
HBO is saying it was 100% intentional because they were 'night' scenes....and....not coincidentally Miguel Sapochnik who directed the last 'dark' episode in GOT....that battle of Winterfell episode....directed this one. I guess I 'get' what they're saying but you have to make a better decision there.
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Also unrelated but so much of the latest episode was ridiculously dark (visually), I could hardly see a thing at times.
This was my only complaint.
HBO is saying it was 100% intentional because they were 'night' scenes....and....not coincidentally Miguel Sapochnik who directed the last 'dark' episode in GOT....that battle of Winterfell episode....directed this one. I guess I 'get' what they're saying but you have to make a better decision there.
My issue with that is that I'm sure it looks great on an ideal setup with a certain combination of settings. But people's TV settings range. Not everyone is watching on a well backlit modern display, or in a dark room without a lot of natural light pollution. I know for me, I can't remember watching anything on any platform in my house and complaining about the lighting, with the exception of this most recent episode (and that one from GOT). HBO commented that something like only 1% of the comments on social media were complaining about the lighting. That's still like 300K viewers, and it could be even higher than that.
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Also unrelated but so much of the latest episode was ridiculously dark (visually), I could hardly see a thing at times.
This was my only complaint.
HBO is saying it was 100% intentional because they were 'night' scenes....and....not coincidentally Miguel Sapochnik who directed the last 'dark' episode in GOT....that battle of Winterfell episode....directed this one. I guess I 'get' what they're saying but you have to make a better decision there.
Yeah, intentional choices can still be bad ones. If anything that makes it in some ways worse.
Good Guardian article on it: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/oct/04/like-it-was-lit-with-a-single-tea-light-for-a-bet-house-of-the-dragon-has-a-terrible-problem
"Usually, when it comes to writing about House of the Dragon, the agreed etiquette is to place a spoiler warning near the top of a piece, to ensure that no important plot details are ruined for anyone a few episodes behind. But there’s no need to do that here, because I’ve watched the most recent episode of House of the Dragon, and, with a gun to my head, I wouldn’t be able to tell you what happened in it.
If you saw the episode, you’ll know exactly what I’m talking about. Things definitely did happen in the episode, I’m sure of it. At one point, a yellowy brown smear may have got imperceptibly closer to another yellowy brown smear, and then there was the bit where a grey thing wobbled about on a background that was almost exactly the same colour. There might have been a castle in it but, even though I squinted at my screen so hard I dislocated my face, there’s a good chance that it was actually a person, or a shrub, or a vase or something"
:lol
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The darkness of the episode, while noticeable, wasn't too big of an issue for me because it was dialogue scenes. Compared to the action packed episode we couldn't see in the final GOT season, this didn't really bother me.
Also, I caught up on the last three episodes last night. This show is so damn good. The changing of actresses was a bit odd, but I think it helped being able to go right into another episode so I feel like that change only felt weird for 15 minutes.
I must say though, with the time jump, I was sure the king would be dead by now :lol
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I must say though, with the time jump, I was sure the king would be dead by now :lol
I was thinking the same thing. :lol
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Once I turned off the lights in my room, the darkness of the episode totally worked for me.
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I must say though, with the time jump, I was sure the king would be dead by now :lol
I was thinking the same thing. :lol
They're doing a great job of progressively aging him to look utterly ravaged though. I can't imagine he has much longer to go....
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I'm guessing he croaks the next episode, then we got two more for the shit to thoroughly hit the fan.
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The timeline thing did take me a while to get used to but this episode I had no issue, the acting is so good It didn't bother me so much. I do agree that the characters do appear a bit different at first. I find it funny how Matt Smith essentially looks the same with the 10 year gap while everyone else pretty much aged either with makeup or being recast.
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The timeline thing did take me a while to get used to but this episode I had no issue, the acting is so good It didn't bother me so much. I do agree that the characters do appear a bit different at first. I find it funny how Matt Smith essentially looks the same with the 10 year gap while everyone else pretty much aged either with makeup or being recast.
Criston Cole also has not aged even slightly.
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Really loved the latest episode. The kid 'taming' the dragon and the kids fighting scene were really great. On the aging of characters (the new actresses) I am not sure it really works for me with the kings daughter Rhaenyra (I think), she seems like a completely different character, but I think the new Queen actress is more believable.
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Really loved the latest episode. The kid 'taming' the dragon and the kids fighting scene were really great. On the aging of characters (the new actresses) I am not sure it really works for me with the kings daughter Rhaenyra (I think), she seems like a completely different character, but I think the new Queen actress is more believable.
I too have an issue with the older Rhaenyra not feeling like the same character. I guess they couldn't find a good enough actress with a physical resemblance.
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I forgot about how good the Alt Shift X youtube recap videos are. Been watching them at work today and learning so much more than what I picked up from watching the episodes.
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Last weeks episode was kinda a chore for me, seeing the older characters felt a bit off mostly because they didn't look that much like their younger version atleast not Rhaenyra. She reminded me of Lagertha so much that I had to check. :lol However the last episode was so awesome it didn't bother me anymore.
I'm so happy right now that both HOTD and ROP are delivering quality TV.
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I didn't have any issues with the change of actors.
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Holy crap what an episode. That entrance by the King gave me freaking chills.
When HBO has GRRM source material they freaking do it up right.
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And.....just to reiterate once again.....Paddy Considine has been utterly remarkable as King Viserys. This last episode was just another fantastic performance :clap:
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He was great in that episode, but maybe it's because I was just tired, but I felt like that was the worst episode of the season. With more time jumps, it just seems like everything is going so fast except Viserys' death which has been dragging forever. His entrance to the thrown was pretty epic though.
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He was great in that episode, but maybe it's because I was just tired, but I felt like that was the worst episode of the season. With more time jumps, it just seems like everything is going so fast except Viserys' death which has been dragging forever. His entrance to the thrown was pretty epic though.
Oh man.....really? I loved that episode, might have been my favorite or close to it. I loved all the tension and undertones of every interaction.
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I thought it was the best episode yet.
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I thought it was the best episode yet.
When Daemon cuts Ser Vaemond's head in half....that was freaking great.....and the grin of admiration that Aemond had witnessing that was a great little glimpse into that dude's character. And the way he 'respects' his Father by waiting until he's no longer around to cleverly say the same exact thing that Vaemond did....but in a manner that even Daemon is impressed by...good stuff.
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To me I find these episodes gripping from start to finish, they are 90% dialog yet manage to be edge-of-my-seat stuff. The tension is so visible and you can feel it every time.
This show and season have been phenomenal thus far.
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To me I find these episodes gripping from start to finish, they are 90% dialog yet manage to be edge-of-my-seat stuff. The tension is so visible and you can feel it every time.
This show and season have been phenomenal thus far.
100% agree. :tup All it's done is upset me even more that GRRM didn't bust his ass to get his book finished so the remainder of the GOT storyline would have been strong and it magnifies the ineptitude of the asshats who film schooled their way to the ending.
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Just to be clear, "worst episode" doesn't necessarily mean bad as I have thought this season has been great so far without an actual bad episode at all. My issue with the last episode is that it didn't seem to move the needle much. We jumped 6 years ahead and everything is still in the same spot as before. All the tensions are the same. It was acted and played out very well like this entire show has. For some reason Coryls off screen death kind of bothered me because he was kind of a main character most of this season and I felt like we should have gotten a bit more what happened to him. It's likely not important so I get why that's the likely reason not to show it. I guess the only change is I assume Viserys actually did die at the end of the episode this time. It's definitely shaped up to have a really crazy ending, but the episode felt more like set up than opening the story up further.
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For some reason Coryls off screen death kind of bothered me because he was kind of a main character most of this season and I felt like we should have gotten a bit more what happened to him.
That would have been a cool 'cold' open....just show a brief 2-3 minutes section of that battle and show him getting hurt and fall into the sea.....then they could have jumped to the throne room where we learned that he recovered but had a fever etc etc.
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For some reason Coryls off screen death kind of bothered me because he was kind of a main character most of this season and I felt like we should have gotten a bit more what happened to him.
That would have been a cool 'cold' open....just show a brief 2-3 minutes section of that battle and show him getting hurt and fall into the sea.....then they could have jumped to the throne room where we learned that he recovered but had a fever etc etc.
Unless of course he isn't dead like his son.
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He's currently "gravely injured", not dead. Recovery is possible.
On another note, Paddy Considine did a stellar job on that last episode. As did the CGI/makeup team.
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He's currently "gravely injured", not dead. Recovery is possible.
On another note, Paddy Considine did a stellar job on that last episode. As did the CGI/makeup team.
Yeah, they framed it like he was basically dead, but it all just makes me fairly certain we will see him again. I didn't read this book so I don't know how this plays out.
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He's currently "gravely injured", not dead. Recovery is possible.
On another note, Paddy Considine did a stellar job on that last episode. As did the CGI/makeup team.
Yeah, they framed it like he was basically dead, but it all just makes me fairly certain we will see him again. I didn't read this book so I don't know how this plays out.
Are you talking about the King? Definitely dead. That last episode was awesome and so was Paddy but he is gone now. Alicent was confused by his final words and now believes he wants their son Aegon to become king but that was not what he was the saying. (Sorry I haven't read the book but I just am sure that was the King's last words before passing and now the civil war will begin to play out).
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He's currently "gravely injured", not dead. Recovery is possible.
On another note, Paddy Considine did a stellar job on that last episode. As did the CGI/makeup team.
Yeah, they framed it like he was basically dead, but it all just makes me fairly certain we will see him again. I didn't read this book so I don't know how this plays out.
Are you talking about the King? Definitely dead. That last episode was awesome and so was Paddy but he is gone now. Alicent was confused by his final words and now believes he wants their son Aegon to become king but that was not what he was the saying. (Sorry I haven't read the book but I just am sure that was the King's last words before passing and now the civil war will begin to play out).
I thought they were discussing Corys (the ruler of Driftmark, whose succession was being discussed).
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Yeah, that quote was about Corlys but I did mention if The King was finally dead at the end so maybe that's where the confusion came from. I only questioned it because it seemed like he should have been dead already (and he collapsed at the end of an earlier episode where I actually thought that was it for him). My friend mentioned if you watched with close captioning, it said something about final breathe. So yeah, he is dead now, but I couldn't help questioning it for sure.
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Well, that was an awesome ending to the episode. And ew Larys foot fetish :lol wtf
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Well, that was an awesome ending to the episode. And ew Larys foot fetish :lol wtf
Yes, and yes.
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I called the dragon busting through to disrupt the ceremony. I mean, they foreshadowed that for a gazillion minutes. :lol
And that foot fetish thing. YUCK. My wife and I looked at one another and were like...why is he gesturing to her feet...wait...PUKE! lol.
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I called the dragon busting through to disrupt the ceremony. I mean, they foreshadowed that for a gazillion minutes. :lol
And that foot fetish thing. YUCK. My wife and I looked at one another and were like...why is he gesturing to her feet...wait...PUKE! lol.
I thought it would be Dameon (sp?) with the dragon.
The foot fetish thing. Yup. But, with all the rapes, castrations, crucifixions, beheadings, flaming bodies......hardly the 'worst' thing they've shown.
Oh.... and thank goodness for reviews and recaps for this show. So much damn confusion, with brief introductions and similar names, where these really help.
The main 'for instance': the peace 'meal' where Aemond derisively toasts his nephews, calling them 'strong boys. Such strong boys.' Well,......their biological father's last name was 'Strong', hence the derision and following fight. Having only been shown his character briefly on two episodes, the 'strong' part meant absolutely nothing when we watched the episode.
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If it had been Daemon on his dragon the series would be over :lol She should have torched them all and been done with it.
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The foot fetish thing. Yup. But, with all the rapes, castrations, crucifixions, beheadings, flaming bodies......hardly the 'worst' thing they've shown.
Oh.... and thank goodness for reviews and recaps for this show. So much damn confusion, with brief introductions and similar names, where these really help.
The main 'for instance': the peace 'meal' where Aemond derisively toasts his nephews, calling them 'strong boys. Such strong boys.' Well,......their biological father's last name was 'Strong', hence the derision and following fight. Having only been shown his character briefly on two episodes, the 'strong' part meant absolutely nothing when we watched the episode.
The foot thing definitely is not the worst thing on the show. But besides it being odd (especially since he has a club foot) it's very interesting to me that he has that power to get the queen to do that for him. The whole situation between those two is going to be a very big issue at some point and it also kind of looks like it may put her at odds with her father as they are seemingly using two competing spy networks within the Red Keep.
Also, agreed on the recaps. There's so much nuggets that I don't pick up and I may not even pick up if I rewatched, but these recaps and youtube videos spot them all. It shows just how well written this show is, including your example.
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how well written this show is
I know it's been said a hundred times already but.....while I feel like the 'action' or 'huge' moments aren't quite GOT level (yet)......the writing on this show is freaking fantastic. So well done.....
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how well written this show is
I know it's been said a hundred times already but.....while I feel like the 'action' or 'huge' moments aren't quite GOT level (yet)......the writing on this show is freaking fantastic. So well done.....
I agree, but season 1 of GOT had little to no action either. To me, it seems like this season is really all set up for the future of the show so it makes sense for it to be mostly dialogue and drama. However, we did get to see some action with the Crabfeeder early on and some cool dragon scenes that we didn't get in GOT until much further on. It definitely seems like there will be a big war coming so lots of time to add big action scenes in the future too.
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There's gonna be plenty of action in future seasons, trust me.
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Episode 8 was excellent, Paddy Considine's performance especially was superb.
Episode 9, eh. Some of the GOT tropes are wearing a bit on me. I was already a bit bored of the whole obvious-bastard-children-look-like-their-father being so important to the plot, as it was for the Baratheons/Lannisters in GOT. Now the entire plot is being driven by a simple misunderstanding on Alicent's part just because everyone is called Aegon. Just not the kind of storytelling I find interesting.
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Now the entire plot is being driven by a simple misunderstanding on Alicent's part just because everyone is called Aegon.
I was a little ticked about this as well. A sick man who's been doped up for years mumbling something as he died suddenly is taken as gospel? I 'get' that even had he not muttered those words that there was already a coup in place with members of the council....so, it appears that 'war' was going to happen no matter what. But Alicent specifically should have known better than anyone that he was delusional and dying in that moment.
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Now the entire plot is being driven by a simple misunderstanding on Alicent's part just because everyone is called Aegon.
I was a little ticked about this as well. A sick man who's been doped up for years mumbling something as he died suddenly is taken as gospel? I 'get' that even had he not muttered those words that there was already a coup in place with members of the council....so, it appears that 'war' was going to happen no matter what. But Alicent specifically should have known better than anyone that he was delusional and dying in that moment.
I was annoyed at first, but in retrospect I feel this is a pretty genius plot turn.
Alicent's final moments with her zombie-husband speaks to how far people will go to hear what they want to hear. The payoff comes when she realizes that, regardless of the final declaration, the council has been preparing a coup for some time.
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I'm not entirely sold she wasn't aware of which Aegon he was talking about, but since it was ambiguous she used it to her advantage although as just mentioned, it was kind of moot when the council was already plotting. I could see this just being a mental mind trick she's playing on herself to justify what she figured might happen regardless.
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Now the entire plot is being driven by a simple misunderstanding on Alicent's part just because everyone is called Aegon.
I was a little ticked about this as well. A sick man who's been doped up for years mumbling something as he died suddenly is taken as gospel? I 'get' that even had he not muttered those words that there was already a coup in place with members of the council....so, it appears that 'war' was going to happen no matter what. But Alicent specifically should have known better than anyone that he was delusional and dying in that moment.
I was annoyed at first, but in retrospect I feel this is a pretty genius plot turn.
Alicent's final moments with her zombie-husband speaks to how far people will go to hear what they want to hear. The payoff comes when she realizes that, regardless of the final declaration, the council has been preparing a coup for some time.
Yeah.....that was a pretty intense moment for her character and you could see she was genuinely surprised and upset. And even just as disgusted and upset when she saw how easily her father and council were willing to murder everyone 'for the sake of the realm'.
I'm not entirely sold she wasn't aware of which Aegon he was talking about, but since it was ambiguous she used it to her advantage
I think it was a moment like what WilliamMunny said.....she heard what she wanted to hear without thinking or allowing herself to consider he meant a different Aegon.
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Alicent may not have known he was speaking of another Aegon. She, after all, is not a Targaryen.
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Alicent may not have known he was speaking of another Aegon. She, after all, is not a Targaryen.
True.....it's like when someone says the name Tony at an Italian family reunion
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I was pretty underwhelmed by the latest episode. Episode 9s in the GoT universe have a history of delivering something huge but this one really failed to deliver much of anything. Hopefully episode 10 is great as I have really enjoyed this series overall.
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I was pretty underwhelmed by the latest episode. Episode 9s in the GoT universe have a history of delivering something huge but this one really failed to deliver much of anything. Hopefully episode 10 is great as I have really enjoyed this series overall.
Really? Wow, I was completely enthralled with E9.
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I was pretty underwhelmed by the latest episode. Episode 9s in the GoT universe have a history of delivering something huge but this one really failed to deliver much of anything. Hopefully episode 10 is great as I have really enjoyed this series overall.
Really? Wow, I was completely enthralled with E9.
Yeah….same. Thought it was right in line with how it should have gone. Good stuff
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I was pretty underwhelmed by the latest episode. Episode 9s in the GoT universe have a history of delivering something huge but this one really failed to deliver much of anything. Hopefully episode 10 is great as I have really enjoyed this series overall.
Really? Wow, I was completely enthralled with E9.
Yeah….same. Thought it was right in line with how it should have gone. Good stuff
Yeah, I just think my expectations may have been too high. Great show though.
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I was pretty underwhelmed by the latest episode. Episode 9s in the GoT universe have a history of delivering something huge but this one really failed to deliver much of anything. Hopefully episode 10 is great as I have really enjoyed this series overall.
Really? Wow, I was completely enthralled with E9.
Yeah….same. Thought it was right in line with how it should have gone. Good stuff
Yeah, I just think my expectations may have been too high. Great show though.
I think we all were hoping for that GOT Ep. 9 type ‘thing’ to happen. A lot happened but it wasn’t huge like in GOT
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I wasn't hoping for anything. That way lies disappointment.
I'm just absorbing what they give us.
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S2 can’t get here soon enough!
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S2 can’t get here soon enough!
Seriously... talk about ending on the perfect note.
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Yep, that was a great season ending, and setup for the war to come.
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I thought it was interesting that this war will now begin due to two dragons essentially ignoring their riders and deciding to take each other on. Both riders begged their dragons to ‘serve’ them and chill yet they ignored them and attacked.
Was that how it was portrayed in the GRRM telling of it? Aemond certainly had the look of "oh shit...what just happened?" and wasn't intending on killing Lucerys. Just curious as to if that's how it went down in the source material??
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Aemond definitely didn't intend that lol
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I thought it was interesting that this war will now begin due to two dragons essentially ignoring their riders and deciding to take each other on. Both riders begged their dragons to ‘serve’ them and chill yet they ignored them and attacked.
Was that how it was portrayed in the GRRM telling of it? Aemond certainly had the look of "oh shit...what just happened?" and wasn't intending on killing Lucerys. Just curious as to if that's how it went down in the source material??
I don't remember it being accidental. But the source material is not really a novel, it's more like a history book, so it doesn't always have motivation or internal reasoning. Which is probably beneficial for the showrunners, as it gives them a lot of wiggle room.
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I thought it was interesting that this war will now begin due to two dragons essentially ignoring their riders and deciding to take each other on. Both riders begged their dragons to ‘serve’ them and chill yet they ignored them and attacked.
Was that how it was portrayed in the GRRM telling of it? Aemond certainly had the look of "oh shit...what just happened?" and wasn't intending on killing Lucerys. Just curious as to if that's how it went down in the source material??
I don't remember it being accidental. But the source material is not really a novel, it's more like a history book, so it doesn't always have motivation or internal reasoning. Which is probably beneficial for the showrunners, as it gives them a lot of wiggle room.
So after I posted that I did some reading online and read that interpretation. They were saying that being that it was a 'history' written by Maester's that the "villians" and "hero's" largely depend on the political leanings of the Maesters who wrote the text you were reading. They used Laenor's death as an example.....saying that while the 'history' may show that Daemon and Rhaenyra murdered or conspired to murder him....that the HBO series may be depicting the 'actual' events that took place and not just be telling the story told by the Maesters.
So....that while the 'history' may be written that Aemond intentionally killed Lucery's.....they're now showing what 'really' happened. They also mentioned that the source material doesn't indicate that Alicent heard Visery's last mention of the prophecy and getting confused....that it suggests her and Otto intentionally installed Aegon as king as a coup.
'If' that's the case and the show is depicting or is taking the direction of showing what 'really' happened and clarifying the written history and clearing it up.....that'll be a neat approach.
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I still say Aemond was at fault. Even if his dragon disobeyed him and acted on its own, he still initiated the chase and put both dragons in that position. He was being a hot-headed prick who wanted to flex, and his behavior will ultimately lead to a shitstorm.
I can't wait.
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I still say Aemond was at fault. Even if his dragon disobeyed him and acted on its own, he still initiated the chase and put both dragons in that position. He was being a hot-headed prick who wanted to flex, and his behavior will ultimately lead to a shitstorm.
I can't wait.
Totally. I mean, he called the kid 'Lord Strong' in front of everyone there :lol Still giving him shit over being a bastard kid. I don't think he's innocent in that chase by any means....it was just interesting seeing that both of the riders didn't have full control over their dragons.....that the dragons decided to ignore them and do their own thing.
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I still say Aemond was at fault.
Well yes, obviously.
The interesting thing will be seeing what he tells his family. It's going to start a war either way. But does he reveal it was an accident, or claim it was intentional?
Anyway the finale was great. A couple of minor clichés but not enough to ruin it, and while I wasn't as keen on most of the episodes after the time jump/cast change, it very much ended on a high I thought.
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Great show and great ending. The final few minutes showed that the dragons can't be controlled. As I read somewhere - dragons in this world are like nuclear weapons in our world, expect with minds of their own.
I am not sure what Aemond will say about what happened, I presume he will say it was an accident but it won't matter.
Bring on season 2.
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Fantastic season 1 - it doesn't feel like 10 weeks have gone by since the show started. I'm really looking forward to season 2.
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Now that the show is over, I can finally watch it with all the episodes available.
I watched the first episode and.... those fuckers. They sucked me right back in :lol
I relapsed like a drunk, or a man who swore off to never have sex again with his ex wife. I'm now completely back on board with all things Westeros ;D
Absolutely great first episode. Time will tell about the actual worth of the men of the High Council (especially Otto Hightower), but.... it was refreshing to see a seemingly bunch of sane people trying to run a realm. So that was how it was supposed to be like, without people bickering all the time in their lust for power? that's how relatively smoothly a kingdom can be run without a drunk on the throne and the biggest cunt in the history of Westeros to walk around in a gown plotting and scheming in the time she's not busy screwing her brother? :D
One episode was already enough to completely win me over. The only thing I didn't like? the mention of the great and terrible winter to come. Because we all know how that turned out. The "Long Night"? pfffh, more a "Mildly Inconvenient Afternoon". Once all of this will be over, it's still gonna be sad to think that it will all lead to Daenerys Targaryen, and that it will all amount to her carpet bombing with dragon napalm King's Landing for no reason at all. Until then, however, I'm gonna enjoy the ride!
BTW, excellent casting. Matt Smith is great, and Rhaenyra really looks like a Dany ancestor. Can't wait to see how it will all unfold! luckily this show is not so massive that it got spoiled everywhere so I know virtually nothing, just that there will be time jumps. Also, memes spoiled me that someone will lose an eye but when a HoD meme comes up in my feed, I try to not pay attention to it.
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I relapsed like a drunk, or a man who swore off to never have sex again with his ex wife. I'm now completely back on board with all things Westeros ;D
No shame in that though, this show won over a lot of the GoT ending haters (including myself). I felt the same way, ready to get immersed back into this world after that first episode.
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Saw the second episode. I now see where Daenerys inherited her badassery from. Rhaneyra shoving her dragon's balls in Daemon's face was pure class :metal
And congrats to Otto for having married his daughter to the king, I figured that was his plan in the first episode but now it became quite clear.
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Saw the third (where Daemon gets so pissed off at the idea of Viserys sending help that he single-handedly kills 960 enemies, crab feeder included) and the fourth episode (where Daemon remembers one of the Targaryen perks is incest and turns Rhaenyra on so much that she goes and shags her guard).
Also, poor Otto. He has Tywin's cunning but none of his cruelty, he was a good game player but he overreached.
I noticed another mention of the Prince that was Promised prophecy. I know I'll sound like a whiner who can't let go but.... I have already a wet dream, that the series will become so successful that, eventually, they'll end it up with a soft reboot of the ending of Game of Thrones. It's a series about the Targaryens, I don't know how they plan to end it (even finishing up with Robert's Rebellion and the downfall of House Targaryen would be cool, and finally see all the cool stuff like Robert killing Rhaegar and Jaimie killing the Mad King), but it would be awesome if they would briefly reach Daenerys again and then pick up with her once she decides to make her move for the Iron Throne.
We know she's gonna burn down King's Landing eventually, but in a way that will make sense. Problem is, that sense will be given by 4000 pages that GRRM has yet to write. A proper ending to the story of the Targaryen dynasty would be knowing in a coherent manner how the tragic tale of one of the greatest and probably last Targaryen in the world would actually end.
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I noticed another mention of the Prince that was Promised prophecy. I know I'll sound like a whiner who can't let go but.... I have already a wet dream, that the series will become so successful that, eventually, they'll end it up with a soft reboot of the ending of Game of Thrones. It's a series about the Targaryens, I don't know how they plan to end it (even finishing up with Robert's Rebellion and the downfall of House Targaryen would be cool, and finally see all the cool stuff like Robert killing Rhaegar and Jaimie killing the Mad King), but it would be awesome if they would briefly reach Daenerys again and then pick up with her once she decides to make her move for the Iron Throne.
Well your dream may become true. My understanding there's a show in the works, albeit beginning work so it's not officially happening yet, to follow Jon Snow after the ending of GoT and it likely will continue the Prince that was Promised prophecy. I believe Kit Harrington is already on board to do it as well.
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I noticed another mention of the Prince that was Promised prophecy. I know I'll sound like a whiner who can't let go but.... I have already a wet dream, that the series will become so successful that, eventually, they'll end it up with a soft reboot of the ending of Game of Thrones. It's a series about the Targaryens, I don't know how they plan to end it (even finishing up with Robert's Rebellion and the downfall of House Targaryen would be cool, and finally see all the cool stuff like Robert killing Rhaegar and Jaimie killing the Mad King), but it would be awesome if they would briefly reach Daenerys again and then pick up with her once she decides to make her move for the Iron Throne.
Well your dream may become true. My understanding there's a show in the works, albeit beginning work so it's not officially happening yet, to follow Jon Snow after the ending of GoT and it likely will continue the Prince that was Promised prophecy. I believe Kit Harrington is already on board to do it as well.
I read that it was Harrington's idea.
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I noticed another mention of the Prince that was Promised prophecy. I know I'll sound like a whiner who can't let go but.... I have already a wet dream, that the series will become so successful that, eventually, they'll end it up with a soft reboot of the ending of Game of Thrones. It's a series about the Targaryens, I don't know how they plan to end it (even finishing up with Robert's Rebellion and the downfall of House Targaryen would be cool, and finally see all the cool stuff like Robert killing Rhaegar and Jaimie killing the Mad King), but it would be awesome if they would briefly reach Daenerys again and then pick up with her once she decides to make her move for the Iron Throne.
Well your dream may become true. My understanding there's a show in the works, albeit beginning work so it's not officially happening yet, to follow Jon Snow after the ending of GoT and it likely will continue the Prince that was Promised prophecy. I believe Kit Harrington is already on board to do it as well.
I read that it was Harrington's idea.
I read the same thing, that he was the spearhead behind it all. I think it 'could' be cool if it has a legit story to tell. I imagine he still has a gripe about how his character was built up to be the lynchpin of the entire series then Dumb and Dumber got a hold of the story and fuc%ed it all up.
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Sounds like Kit needs some work :lol but if GRRM isn't invovlved, I'm not sure it's worth doing. I feel like the success of HotD could be due to GRRM being involved again.
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Kit has a team of writers or maybe it's a production company and that team is what came up with the idea of the life of Jon Snow post wall life. GRRM from what I recall said he was excited with their pitch and how it's developed. Once they have more I"m sure we'll hear more from them. Last I read GRRM said 4 GoT ideas were being developed.
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Kit has a team of writers or maybe it's a production company and that team is what came up with the idea of the life of Jon Snow post wall life. GRRM from what I recall said he was excited with their pitch and how it's developed. Once they have more I"m sure we'll hear more from them. Last I read GRRM said 4 GoT ideas were being developed.
I read something similar, and it was honestly part of what had me going into House of the Dragon with doubts.
Not that anyone involved with any of this is looking for my opinion, but the next time HBO calls me I'll be sure to say, "quality over quantity, my friends"
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Kit has a team of writers or maybe it's a production company and that team is what came up with the idea of the life of Jon Snow post wall life. GRRM from what I recall said he was excited with their pitch and how it's developed. Once they have more I"m sure we'll hear more from them. Last I read GRRM said 4 GoT ideas were being developed.
I read something similar, and it was honestly part of what had me going into House of the Dragon with doubts.
Not that anyone involved with any of this is looking for my opinion, but the next time HBO calls me I'll be sure to say, "quality over quantity, my friends"
I agree with that statement, but the reality is, GoT is now a big "franchise" basically and HBO will milk it dry with all the spinoffs. I can't complain if they continue to be good, but the moment the quality drops it'll come back to feeling like this. I feel like Disney has basically done this with Star Wars already.
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Yeah well we'll have to wait and see because House of the Dragon was a phenomenal first season. I think that is one of the four GRRM mentioned. One other got dropped which a pilot was shot with Naomi Watts. I can't remember if it's the same as the Long Night series and that got dropped too. So it looks like they're at least taking time to map them out and develop them properly.
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I'm halfway through, I saw the fifth episode, the one where Daemon caresses a horse into killing his wife, and a royal wedding ends up with Rahenyra's bodyguard killing his future husband's lover.
This made me remember a major WTF moment of a previous episode - what was up with the scrawny little kid proposing to Rhaenyra and then getting mad at the bully taunting him and outright killing him? :eek :lol
Anyway, King Viserys is in bad shape and I'd be very surprised if he'd live past episode six. I'll see....
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This made me remember a major WTF moment of a previous episode - what was up with the scrawny little kid proposing to Rhaenyra and then getting mad at the bully taunting him and outright killing him? :eek :lol
I watch the Al-Shift X youtube videos explaining the episodes. He talked quite a bit about those kids. Apparently their families hate each other and there's hystory there which may play a role in the future seasons. He also explained there's a lot of hints that the people of Westeros are blood thirsty because there hasn't been war in awhile and most people don't have battle experience. Sometimes that shows in random bursts of murder which there is quite a lot of in this show.
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Thanks, that makes more sense. The scene was so weird, it felt like a prepubescent kid, who was barely starting to understand what he has in his pants and what can be used for, sees himself denied of a chance of having a pretty girl and just goes berserk ;D
Watched the sixth episode. Wow, what a jarring time skip. I knew it would come, but last episode ended on a minor cliffhanger (the king collapses just as Rhaenyra weds! will he live? will he die?), and then we suddenly jump 10 years ahead?
So much for Otto saying "the king will die, be it months or years, he will not live to be an old man", well, there he is, an old man after all, ten years alter. Pity we weren't more prepared to say goodbye to young Rhaenyra, the actress was great!
So, back in the day people could spot a bastard son from the hair, uh? :D I wish people would have realized the same thing about Joffrey, Tommen and Marcella during the Baratheon reign.
And speaking of Joffrey... when I heard the last child was named like that, my first reaction was "Oh seven hells not this shit again" ;D
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I'm at episode 9, only one to go!
Wow, I considered Otto a Tywin without the cruelty, but he can be ruthless as well. And so much for "the king won't live to be an old man", there he was, his face melting off his skull, and yet still alive and (almost) kicking. Awesome performance by Paddy Considine as Decrepit Viserys. Great moment also with Daemon picking up his crown as he was stumbling to the throne.
Badass final scene of episode 9, with whimpy and whiney Aegon being crowned only for the dragon to emerge from the pit destroying the temple. I must confess, I thought it was Rhaenyra, I didn't make 2+2 with the king's sister disappearing down the stairs. What an "holy shit" moment.
Now I'm curious to see how it will all go down - I assume a conflict will ensue and we'll see the "dance of dragons" in season 2, with the various factions competing for the throne? I remember there was such a thing, but of course I'm not going to look for details now to not spoil the final episode or the entirety of season 2 for that matter.
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Great moment also with Daemon picking up his crown as he was stumbling to the throne.
While that was a really cool moment (and several articles confirm that was not scripted and improvised) I thought Visery's entrance was 'the' scene of that episode and if not the best of the series then one of the top two or three. I've intentionally not re-watched that scene yet as to let it simmer more so that when I do I can recapture just a sliver of the emotion it invoked the first time I watched it.
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Finished the series, now I'm all caught up!
"The idea that we control the dragons is just an illusion".
Wow. It's a pity that the season ends this way and that we have to wait a full year, if not more, for season 2, but we'll know what we'll get when the show finally returns.... fire and blood. Rhaenyra looked like wanting to keep her cool but now there is no turning back, it's gonna be an all out war.
What a fantastic seaason it has been. The quality of Game of Thrones, minus the nonsense writing of the last season. This show can have a long and successful life, it will never become a cultural phenomenon like Got but I'm sure it can give us many more satisfactions.
Also, it made all the events of Game of Thrones looking more chaotic. We knew all along that the Targaryens ruled for 300 years, but seeing it is a different story. You know going into Game of Thrones that Robert being king is a new thing, but seeing House Targaryen at the height of their power really let it sink in that because of a king went mad, the entire dinasty was brought down and (almost) wiped out.
Hey, if they make a prequel far back in time, probably we'll get the perspective that even the concept of the seven kingdoms under Targaryen rule is "new". But for now we've finally seen what the Mad King undo and how much damage he did to the history of Westeros! (complicit, of course, his son eloping with her beloved and Bobby Baratheon losing his temper about it).
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I still say Aemond was at fault. Even if his dragon disobeyed him and acted on its own, he still initiated the chase and put both dragons in that position. He was being a hot-headed prick who wanted to flex, and his behavior will ultimately lead to a shitstorm.
I can't wait.
MirrorMask....I was waiting for you to finish watching before responding to this comment.
Lucerys' death was different in the book.
https://screenrant.com/house-dragon-lucerys-death-aemond-book-changes-better/
From another review, I read where Aemond shows Lucerys' eyes to his mother (or the court).
It was quite the ending. The war is on!
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Thanks for the courtesy ;)
Yeah, I like better what they did in the show as well, it's more fitting with Aemond to be a hothead that doesn't think of the consequences, rather than a cold blooded murderer.
Anyway, when I was watching the season I realized that, as far as I recall, there are no Hightowers or Valeryons in Game of Thrones, so that's an implicit spoiler of how eventually things will turn for those two houses....?
It's a pity not being able to look into it better for fear of spoilers :lol I also remember that at a certain point Harrenhall was burned down by a dragon, but I don't remember how "long ago" it was (keeping GoT as a reference) so I don't know if we'll eventually see that as well.
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I still say Aemond was at fault. Even if his dragon disobeyed him and acted on its own, he still initiated the chase and put both dragons in that position. He was being a hot-headed prick who wanted to flex, and his behavior will ultimately lead to a shitstorm.
I can't wait.
MirrorMask....I was waiting for you to finish watching before responding to this comment.
Lucerys' death was different in the book.
https://screenrant.com/house-dragon-lucerys-death-aemond-book-changes-better/
From another review, I read where Aemond shows Lucerys' eyes to his mother (or the court).
It was quite the ending. The war is on!
I've heard that the source material (which I haven't read) is more of a historical account written by the victors. So its pretty cool to see a different take if that's the case. Of course the victors...errr survivors? would write it out as nothing but decisive murder.
I enjoyed the entire series. A few jarring things already called out, a little gross with the incest and foot fetish, more gory than I remember GOT, but some good unexpected turns. I hear the issues with the darkness, but I didn't think it matched the dark scenes in Rings of Power. I literally had to turn off lights to watch that show.
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Last night I finished S1 man, can’t wait for S2. I hope they do at least two more season.
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Sucks that we have to wait until 2024 to see it. Read that it's going to be 8 episodes and Miguel Sapochnik is no longer a showrunner which is very unfortunate, seems he needed a break because it was too brutal of a schedule. Not surprised.
I got the boxset and watched the special features and I just cannot imagine how they manage to keep it together with that much of an insanely high production value.
Can't wait to rewatch the season 1 in glorious 4k.
(https://imgur.com/rdGQBzL.jpg)
Also another GRRM series has been greenlit by HBO, the Dunk and Egg books are being made into a series called A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms. Don't know much about them except that they are also not complete lol. Apparently there will be six episodes in the first series and tackle the first book The Hedge Knight.
Interesting fact from reading GRRM's blog is that this was in the making/development with HBO for the past 7 years. Goes to show how long it sometimes takes to get the show up and running.
A Knight and a Squire | Not a Blog (georgerrmartin.com) (https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2023/04/14/a-knight-and-a-squire/)
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I enjoyed the Dunk and Egg stories, but I have no idea why this project got greenlit.