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#Prey is currently at 96% on Rotten Tomatoes — based on 47 reviews 🍅
It is now the highest-rated Predator movie
I have not watched this one it hasn’t released in the country. But I am pretty hyped for it. Both of my kids are fans of Predators.
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Yeah it looks great, you can tell they were invested in making it high quality.
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Looking forward to seeing this one.....hope it rights the ship so to speak. Been some real weak efforts in the past few years. Obviously the first film is the cream of the crop but I enjoyed Predator 2 as well....thought that one was a good sequel. Then it went off the rails a bit after that.
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Same here, very excited to see the rave reviews for the new one. I've seen all the Predators, even the AVP ones. Obviously the first one is a classic and can't/won't be touched. I too really enjoyed the sequel, I thought setting it in the city was a great idea and the story was well done. Surprised it got some much hate, the first AVP movie actually has a very interesting premise and for the most part isn't that bad, I think around the last part of the movie is where it gets crazy but on the whole it isn't as terrible. The sequel however I remember being a complete mess, saw it when it came out, haven't seen it since.
I also really loved the standalone Predators movie, the whole vibe of the movie was amazing and you had a fantastic cast. I keep thinking Robert Rodriguez directed it but he was a producer on that movie. The last movie was absolutely atrocious, was hoping with Shane Black returning to write/direct would be good but studio interference ended up making it an absolutely awful movie.
I'm very excited for Prey and I already have Hulu so I should catch it tomorrow. One of the reasons I read they wanted it streamed instead of a theatrical release was because they wanted to do an experimental and unique storytelling (I'm guessing they mean Independent type) of the movie and having it in the theaters would kinda take that away. Either way I cant wait.
I should do a rewatch of the 3 movies I love from the franchise sometime soon.
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I've been casually excited about this since it was announced and the good reviews and people saying it's the best sequel fills me with more hope.
This is really what I've wanted since the beginning though. The concept of taking it back, stripping things down and setting it in a 'simpler' time. A concept like Predator works great for that IMO, you want to feel that tension and fear and even though I liked Predator 2 well enough (not close to the original but still a fine sequel imo) I started to lose it when they introduced technology to 'outsmart' the Predator. And that's a problem when taking the Predator and making it more modern is that our own technology eventually gets so good that a Predator won't seem that bad. However, indians fighting a Predator? I'm in!
Honestly think other franchises like Terminator for example could benefit from the same.
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I've missed this completely, sounds cool and promising when you hear good reviews for once. :tup
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Movie is solid! It's a bit more serious than the original one but I loved it. Acting is a bit off at times but can easily be overlooked. I really enjoyed it. The movie is really well shot and the fight choreography is fantastic.
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Movie is solid! It's a bit more serious than the original one but I loved it. Acting is a bit off at times but can easily be overlooked. I really enjoyed it. The movie is really well shot and the fight choreography is fantastic.
Cool! We're out of town this weekend but will get to this one soon
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So every Friday the radio station I listen to at work has movie reviewers, 3 different ones for each host over the 7 or so hours I listen, and though they all have different takes on the craft, and very different tastes, they all agreed on this one as being good to excellent. Had to give it a shot
And I can't lie, this was one outstanding film in all aspects. I'm a sucker for any film with a strong female lead, so half the battle was one right out of the gates, but man, I loved this beginning to end.
The scene where the three French trappers shoot at Predator, then take a minute to reload... :lol
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When I saw it was a Hulu exclusive I was all :sadpanda:
Then I remembered D+ has streaming rights in Canada for Hulu. :fistpump:
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Since the original Predator movie there hasn't been a single film that was even close to being good.
So if Schwarzenegger who was XXX years in the army, had lots of training, with huge muscles could barely beat a Predator.. a teenage female warrior will beat one? What an insult to the original film.
I'd be even happy if they made a remake of the first movie.. but this.... is a joke.
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Did you watch it?
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Since the original Predator movie there hasn't been a single film that was even close to being good.
So if Schwarzenegger who was XXX years in the army, had lots of training, with huge muscles could barely beat a Predator.. a teenage female warrior will beat one? What an insult to the original film.
I'd be even happy if they made a remake of the first movie.. but this.... is a joke.
I disagree. I thought the AVP movies were both pretty entertaining, and also seem to recall Predators being a decent enough C-list flick. Predator 2 was kinda crap iirc.
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I haven’t seen Predator in years, but did Arnold’s huge muscles play any real role in him defeating the predator or was it his cunning?
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I haven’t seen Predator in years, but did Arnold’s huge muscles play any real role in him defeating the predator or was it his cunning?
They helped him pull off his cunning ideas to kill the beast
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I haven’t seen Predator in years, but did Arnold’s huge muscles play any real role in him defeating the predator or was it his cunning?
They helped him pull off his cunning ideas to kill the beast
That’s fair.
Though I’d love a sequel where Arnie has to team up with the predator and they recreate that overly macho handshake he did with Apollo Creed in that one movie I’m not manly enough to remember.
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So if Schwarzenegger who was XXX years in the army, had lots of training, with huge muscles could barely beat a Predator.. a teenage female warrior will beat one? What an insult to the original film.
I'd be even happy if they made a remake of the first movie.. but this.... is a joke.
No one complained when Ripley killed numerous aliens and even their queen and how Newt survived days alone when a bunch of trained muscle bound marines died like cannon fodder minutes after landing on the planet :D.
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I haven’t seen Predator in years, but did Arnold’s huge muscles play any real role in him defeating the predator or was it his cunning?
They helped him pull off his cunning ideas to kill the beast
That’s fair.
Though I’d love a sequel where Arnie has to team up with the predator and they recreate that overly macho handshake he did with Apollo Creed in that one movie I’m not manly enough to remember.
... That was Predator...
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I haven’t seen Predator in years, but did Arnold’s huge muscles play any real role in him defeating the predator or was it his cunning?
They helped him pull off his cunning ideas to kill the beast
That’s fair.
Though I’d love a sequel where Arnie has to team up with the predator and they recreate that overly macho handshake he did with Apollo Creed in that one movie I’m not manly enough to remember.
... That was Predator...
THAT WAS PREDATOR?!?!?! HAHAHAHAH
Show's what I remember.
Fine, I admit I just want to see an Arnie/Predator buddy cop movie.
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I haven’t seen Predator in years, but did Arnold’s huge muscles play any real role in him defeating the predator or was it his cunning?
They helped him pull off his cunning ideas to kill the beast
That’s fair.
Though I’d love a sequel where Arnie has to team up with the predator and they recreate that overly macho handshake he did with Apollo Creed in that one movie I’m not manly enough to remember.
... That was Predator...
THAT WAS PREDATOR?!?!?! HAHAHAHAH
Show's what I remember.
Fine, I admit I just want to see an Arnie/Predator buddy cop movie.
Red Heat. Russian Arnie team up with wise ass sexual predator US cop James Belushi to foil crime.
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This was awesome! We finally get a truly great sequel to the original, not something I expected after all these years and especially the last one made by Shane Black which was a huge disappointment and maybe the worst of the bunch.
I don't really have any major complaints with the movie at all, the female lead was great and visually I thought it looked great too.
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The same weapon that’s given to Danny Glover on Predator 2 is seen on PREY. Nice nugget.
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Looking forward to watching this.
Also, talking about realism in terms of physicality, you can make arguments against Arnold as well. Having a bodybuilder frame focused on hyperthropy to the max and be as big and heavy as possible is not going to be an advantage as a soldier surviving in the wild. I have lived in a house with marine corps in training, they don't look like that at all, for a whole lot of reasons. My niece in the marines also looks normal.
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Looking forward to watching this.
Also, talking about realism in terms of physicality, you can make arguments against Arnold as well. Having a bodybuilder frame focused on hyperthropy to the max and be as big and heavy as possible is not going to be an advantage as a soldier surviving in the wild. I have lived in a house with marine corps in training, they don't look like that at all, for a whole lot of reasons. My niece in the marines also looks normal.
I feel like that's one of the major points of the first Predator - that even the manliest group of macho men built like Hercules with all the weapons they could want, would still be sitting ducks against 1 Predator in the jungle. Even Arnold doesn't start to turn the tide against the Predator until he gets a moment to rest and start using his brain and plan ahead. This is why it frustrates me that people complain about Prey and "A girl couldn't possibly take on the Predator when Arnold barely could" because the way it's written and played out, it does make sense. I don't want to give anything away but I also think a native indian hunter who is used to animal hunting and tracking has other attributes to make up for not being buff like Arnold. The Arnold crew were pretty much in over their head and despite their physical strengths, they weren't trained for that sort of situation.
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Since the original Predator movie there hasn't been a single film that was even close to being good.
So if Schwarzenegger who was XXX years in the army, had lots of training, with huge muscles could barely beat a Predator.. a teenage female warrior will beat one? What an insult to the original film.
I'd be even happy if they made a remake of the first movie.. but this.... is a joke.
Couldn't disagree more with this take. I thought it was really well done.
Also, this was easily the most badass-looking version of the Predator we've seen on film.
Very entertaining. Also cool that you can watch it dubbed in Comanche, if you'd like.
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Since the original Predator movie there hasn't been a single film that was even close to being good.
So if Schwarzenegger who was XXX years in the army, had lots of training, with huge muscles could barely beat a Predator.. a teenage female warrior will beat one? What an insult to the original film.
I'd be even happy if they made a remake of the first movie.. but this.... is a joke.
Reply with spoilers:
It wasn't only her who beat Predator. She received help from his brother, and also from the Predator's helmet.
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Very entertaining. Also cool that you can watch it dubbed in Comanche, if you'd like.
That's fucking cool as fuck. I heard, before seeing it, that they did respect the Comanche nation a great deal in the making, being sure to be very true to their culture.
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Very entertaining. Also cool that you can watch it dubbed in Comanche, if you'd like.
That's fucking cool as fuck. I heard, before seeing it, that they did respect the Comanche nation a great deal in the making, being sure to be very true to their culture.
Pretty sure it's the first movie ever to offer a Comanche language track.
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The filmmakers actually wanted to film all of the native language parts in Comanche from the start, but couldn't get the studio to go for that.
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Since the original Predator movie there hasn't been a single film that was even close to being good.
So if Schwarzenegger who was XXX years in the army, had lots of training, with huge muscles could barely beat a Predator.. a teenage female warrior will beat one? What an insult to the original film.
I'd be even happy if they made a remake of the first movie.. but this.... is a joke.
WARNING: SPOILERS!!!
While I found the movie entertaining, and easily the best Predator sequel- I had similar issues.
The fight/action scenes were just way too over the top- giving the heroine Kill Bill/Matrix/“god-mode” abilities just kind of killed any sense of danger or suspense the movie built up.
Putting on my writer/director hat, I would have striped the second half down- instead of reintroducing her brother and his tribal friends back in the mix, keep the focus on Naru vs the Predator. Woman vs beast. Nature vs high tech gadgetry. And her transition from hunted to hunter. That’s the compelling story.
It also would have been MUCH more interesting to see her use more of her knowledge of the forest/medicine/animals/hunting etc rather than cheesy movie-fu fighting skills to defeat the Predator (and French trappers). The movie sets her up to be survivalist but that barely comes into play in the last half.
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Saw it and enjoyed it quite a bit, good to finally have a film in this franchise that doesn't suck again.
Since the original Predator movie there hasn't been a single film that was even close to being good.
So if Schwarzenegger who was XXX years in the army, had lots of training, with huge muscles could barely beat a Predator.. a teenage female warrior will beat one? What an insult to the original film.
I'd be even happy if they made a remake of the first movie.. but this.... is a joke.
WARNING: SPOILERS!!!
While I found the movie entertaining, and easily the best Predator sequel- I had similar issues.
The fight/action scenes were just way too over the top- giving the heroine Kill Bill/Matrix/“god-mode” abilities just kind of killed any sense of danger or suspense the movie built up.
Putting on my writer/director hat, I would have striped the second half down- instead of reintroducing her brother and his tribal friends back in the mix, keep the focus on Naru vs the Predator. Woman vs beast. Nature vs high tech gadgetry. And her transition from hunted to hunter. That’s the compelling story.
It also would have been MUCH more interesting to see her use more of her knowledge of the forest/medicine/animals/hunting etc rather than cheesy movie-fu fighting skills to defeat the Predator (and French trappers). The movie sets her up to be survivalist but that barely comes into play in the last half.
But she does use all of that to win? A combination of traps, plants, knowledge of the forest lay-out, teamwork with her dog, analysis of the Predator's behaviour/tech allows here to come up with a final plan. Sure, there are some flashy moves, but she does in fact use all of that. Like a good chunk of the film is establishing her disovering things about the predator and weaves that all together in her final set up.
It really isn't like she arm wrestling a predator to it's death here. In fact, it is heavily weakened by the end of the film and she did not win alone. And even with the flashy moves, it isn't even remotely close to Beatrix Kiddo and she straight up loses, with mortal danger as a result several times in this film.
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Man, the imdb user reviews are ripping this movie to shreds.
I have about 30 minutes left in my watch, and I'm really enjoying it so far.
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I watched it and I didn't like it. It was even worse than expected.
And I agree with the negative reviews on imdb.
This is not a Predator movie. It is not about the Predator, he just happens to be there. The whole movie is about "see? Women can do it too!!"
Nobody takes the girl seriously, nobody believes her and she is always right. Men are all portrayed as dumb.
Not to mention she beats an Indian guy one on one and no comment about the final fight. There is so much ridiculous, ludicruous stuff about the movie and so much that could be said negatively about it that I am amazed that it is even ranked 7.2 on imdb.
Predator kills everyone in less than a second, but the many opportunities that he had to kill the girl.. well.. I guess you can't kill the main character, right?
Rather than a Predator movie, I feel that this is almost like a Disney movie for feminists.
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I watched it and I didn't like it. It was even worse than expected.
And I agree with the negative reviews on imdb.
This is not a Predator movie. It is not about the Predator, he just happens to be there. The whole movie is about "see? Women can do it too!!"
Nobody takes the girl seriously, nobody believes her and she is always right. Men are all portrayed as dumb.
Not to mention she beats an Indian guy one on one and no comment about the final fight. There is so much ridiculous, ludicruous stuff about the movie and so much that could be said negatively about it that I am amazed that it is even ranked 7.2 on imdb.
Predator kills everyone in less than a second, but the many opportunities that he had to kill the girl.. well.. I guess you can't kill the main character, right?
Rather than a Predator movie, I feel that this is almost like a Disney movie for feminists.
So in summary, your issue with the movie is that the protagonist is a woman. Got it.
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People can dislike it to their content, but many of the things I see people stating are just factually wrong.
And sure, on average males have a physical advantage. But really, a lot of women are plenty capable of physicality. And again, if we are talking realism in our action films, then on average a 50-60 year old ageing male is not going to do much either. People don't seem to have a problem with that.
Predator kills everyone in less than a second, but the many opportunities that he had to kill the girl.. well.. I guess you can't kill the main character, right?
The film clearly establishes the Predator not interested in prey. All the men are hunters with weapons. The girl is prey throughout most of the film, at least at the moments she encounters the Predator. Just like the bunny and the wolf early in the film, the Predator is not going after the bunny. Their first encounter is her helplessly trapped and nearly killed a bear, with the Predator ending up saving her in a way. Second time she is captured by her tribe, with her hands tied. When she escapes and has the chance to attack, she flees and get's again helplessly caught in a trap. Then later she is tied to a tree.
It think this film is well above average in terms of script, as most scenes serve a purpose and come back into play later. All without explicitly telling you, mostly showing you.
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I watched it and I didn't like it. It was even worse than expected.
And I agree with the negative reviews on imdb.
This is not a Predator movie. It is not about the Predator, he just happens to be there. The whole movie is about "see? Women can do it too!!"
Nobody takes the girl seriously, nobody believes her and she is always right. Men are all portrayed as dumb.
Not to mention she beats an Indian guy one on one and no comment about the final fight. There is so much ridiculous, ludicruous stuff about the movie and so much that could be said negatively about it that I am amazed that it is even ranked 7.2 on imdb.
Predator kills everyone in less than a second, but the many opportunities that he had to kill the girl.. well.. I guess you can't kill the main character, right?
Rather than a Predator movie, I feel that this is almost like a Disney movie for feminists.
Sorry but you have horrible takes.
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Yeah that has to be one of the worst takes I've seen in my 13 years on the forum. :lol
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I feel that this is almost like a Disney movie for feminists.
Nah.....they checked that box off with the Star Wars sequel trilogy.
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I watched it and I didn't like it. It was even worse than expected.
And I agree with the negative reviews on imdb.
This is not a Predator movie. It is not about the Predator, he just happens to be there. The whole movie is about "see? Women can do it too!!"
Nobody takes the girl seriously, nobody believes her and she is always right. Men are all portrayed as dumb.
Not to mention she beats an Indian guy one on one and no comment about the final fight. There is so much ridiculous, ludicruous stuff about the movie and so much that could be said negatively about it that I am amazed that it is even ranked 7.2 on imdb.
Predator kills everyone in less than a second, but the many opportunities that he had to kill the girl.. well.. I guess you can't kill the main character, right?
Rather than a Predator movie, I feel that this is almost like a Disney movie for feminists.
Sorry but you have horrible takes.
I was trying to enter a discussion with some counter points, which probably does not matter/have any effect.
But for the record I agree with you.
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Saw it and enjoyed it quite a bit, good to finally have a film in this franchise that doesn't suck again.
Since the original Predator movie there hasn't been a single film that was even close to being good.
So if Schwarzenegger who was XXX years in the army, had lots of training, with huge muscles could barely beat a Predator.. a teenage female warrior will beat one? What an insult to the original film.
I'd be even happy if they made a remake of the first movie.. but this.... is a joke.
WARNING: SPOILERS!!!
While I found the movie entertaining, and easily the best Predator sequel- I had similar issues.
The fight/action scenes were just way too over the top- giving the heroine Kill Bill/Matrix/“god-mode” abilities just kind of killed any sense of danger or suspense the movie built up.
Putting on my writer/director hat, I would have striped the second half down- instead of reintroducing her brother and his tribal friends back in the mix, keep the focus on Naru vs the Predator. Woman vs beast. Nature vs high tech gadgetry. And her transition from hunted to hunter. That’s the compelling story.
It also would have been MUCH more interesting to see her use more of her knowledge of the forest/medicine/animals/hunting etc rather than cheesy movie-fu fighting skills to defeat the Predator (and French trappers). The movie sets her up to be survivalist but that barely comes into play in the last half.
But she does use all of that to win? A combination of traps, plants, knowledge of the forest lay-out, teamwork with her dog, analysis of the Predator's behaviour/tech allows here to come up with a final plan. Sure, there are some flashy moves, but she does in fact use all of that. Like a good chunk of the film is establishing her disovering things about the predator and weaves that all together in her final set up.
It really isn't like she arm wrestling a predator to it's death here. In fact, it is heavily weakened by the end of the film and she did not win alone. And even with the flashy moves, it isn't even remotely close to Beatrix Kiddo and she straight up loses, with mortal danger as a result several times in this film.
Warning MAJOR spoilers again:
She utilizes the plant that lowers her body heat and the mud bog, which she found completely by accident, not necessarily from “knowledge of the forest”. I guess I was hoping for a bit MORE of her nature/forest skills to come into play. Her use of the Predator tech to finally defeat the (already weakened) Predator seems like a cheap ending too but I guess you could say that demonstrates her cleverness. I just didn’t find it particularly compelling.
And she TOTALLY turns into Beatrix Kiddo during the fight with all the French trappers. Again, I get it; it’s 2022 and movie goers like that John Wick style of action, but frankly it took me out of the movie and, as I said in my previous post, neutered a lot of the danger/suspense. I would have liked a bit more gritty realism, but that’s just me.
Don’t get me wrong- it’s a good movie, but, in my opinion, these are some of the things that keep it from reaching greatness.
And yeah- ChuckSteak just sounds like he just doesn’t like the fact that the protagonist is a woman. All the complaints he gave could easily be said about other female centered action movies like Aliens or Terminator.
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Oh, I'd bet any amount of money that if the internet was around, there would undoubtedly be tons of misogynistic keyboard warriors calling Ripley and Sarah Connor a 'Mary Sue' etc...
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I enjoyed it, but I think the soundtrack hurt it a bit. The music didn't fit the action scenes and the movie felt lifeless for it. I'm glad they didn't try to force every possible callback like recent sequels to 30 year old movies do. The origin of the gun from Predator 2 was neat.
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Oh, I'd bet any amount of money that if the internet was around, there would undoubtedly be tons of misogynistic keyboard warriors calling Ripley and Sarah Connor a 'Mary Sue' etc...
That definitely would have happened today. Alien reviews would be all about how the men have to take the backseat so that a woman can save the day and Terminator reviews would be about how of course a woman is the most important person ever targeted by killer robots.
Going back to Prey/Predator though, I actually did some revisiting of the franchise recently and I kinda feel like it gets undeserved hate? Alien and Terminator are good examples of franchises that really went off the rails and things went really bad but I would say this about the Predator franchise:
Predator 2 - IMO great fun 'typical' 80s/90s action movie with faces you like (danny glover, bill paxton, gary busey). Does not get enough appreciation for the expanded lore of the Predator IMO. In many movies they try to overexplain or add too much lore but IMO Predator 2 gets it perfectly. Changing it to be set in the city is also fun IMO. Yeah it's not as good as the original but for me this is a sequel I would kinda compare to like Die Hard 3 where it's different enough yet familiar enough to hit a sweet spot.
Predators - So it's kinda the same movie again with some twists but I think it's pretty decent. Some great scenes like the yakuza guy fighting a predator with the samurai sword in the field, i would say the weakest aspect is the characters but overall i would say it's a decent movie. Not the original but not bad.
Prey - great for many reasons we already discussed.
The AvP movies are neither here or there for me, the first one is okay and the second one is worse but a lot of it mostly because of how dark it is. Like seriously, brightness settings? Hello? Surprisingly I would say that the worst one is the Shane Black one (which I had the highest hopes for) and that's last by a landslide for me. But I do think Predator 2 and Predators seem to be unfairly lumped into "bad sequels" when IMO they are pretty decent movies. Yeah the original is a 5/5 so you gotta temper the expectations a bit.
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Predator 2 is awesome and I’ll die on that hill.
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Predator 2 is awesome and I’ll die on that hill.
Predator 2 has a lot going for it but it’s biggest flaw is miscasting Danny “I’m too old for this shit” Glover in the lead. He’s just not credible going toe to toe against the Predator and, moreover, he’s no Arnold (quite possibly THE most charismatic action star in Hollywood history), so the movie is already at a disadvantage from the get go.
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Saw it and enjoyed it quite a bit, good to finally have a film in this franchise that doesn't suck again.
Since the original Predator movie there hasn't been a single film that was even close to being good.
So if Schwarzenegger who was XXX years in the army, had lots of training, with huge muscles could barely beat a Predator.. a teenage female warrior will beat one? What an insult to the original film.
I'd be even happy if they made a remake of the first movie.. but this.... is a joke.
WARNING: SPOILERS!!!
While I found the movie entertaining, and easily the best Predator sequel- I had similar issues.
The fight/action scenes were just way too over the top- giving the heroine Kill Bill/Matrix/“god-mode” abilities just kind of killed any sense of danger or suspense the movie built up.
Putting on my writer/director hat, I would have striped the second half down- instead of reintroducing her brother and his tribal friends back in the mix, keep the focus on Naru vs the Predator. Woman vs beast. Nature vs high tech gadgetry. And her transition from hunted to hunter. That’s the compelling story.
It also would have been MUCH more interesting to see her use more of her knowledge of the forest/medicine/animals/hunting etc rather than cheesy movie-fu fighting skills to defeat the Predator (and French trappers). The movie sets her up to be survivalist but that barely comes into play in the last half.
But she does use all of that to win? A combination of traps, plants, knowledge of the forest lay-out, teamwork with her dog, analysis of the Predator's behaviour/tech allows here to come up with a final plan. Sure, there are some flashy moves, but she does in fact use all of that. Like a good chunk of the film is establishing her disovering things about the predator and weaves that all together in her final set up.
It really isn't like she arm wrestling a predator to it's death here. In fact, it is heavily weakened by the end of the film and she did not win alone. And even with the flashy moves, it isn't even remotely close to Beatrix Kiddo and she straight up loses, with mortal danger as a result several times in this film.
Warning MAJOR spoilers again:
She utilizes the plant that lowers her body heat and the mud bog, which she found completely by accident, not necessarily from “knowledge of the forest”. I guess I was hoping for a bit MORE of her nature/forest skills to come into play. Her use of the Predator tech to finally defeat the (already weakened) Predator seems like a cheap ending too but I guess you could say that demonstrates her cleverness. I just didn’t find it particularly compelling.
And she TOTALLY turns into Beatrix Kiddo during the fight with all the French trappers. Again, I get it; it’s 2022 and movie goers like that John Wick style of action, but frankly it took me out of the movie and, as I said in my previous post, neutered a lot of the danger/suspense. I would have liked a bit more gritty realism, but that’s just me.
Don’t get me wrong- it’s a good movie, but, in my opinion, these are some of the things that keep it from reaching greatness.
And yeah- ChuckSteak just sounds like he just doesn’t like the fact that the protagonist is a woman. All the complaints he gave could easily be said about other female centered action movies like Aliens or Terminator.
I'd say her greatest ability in the film is being a fast learner. Yes, she randomly stumbled upon things, but she did put it together. How she discovered certain things can be less compelling to you and that is fair, but she did learn and use it.
An example her of learning is the trapper waking up without a leg. That is not (just) to torture the man, she tested the tool based on the other trapper she encountered before without a leg (and with the gadget). She then knows how to use it and does so on the Predator. It is not just her picking up the tech and using it during combat. I think the script did well in establishing her learning, testing and using a variety of advantages throughout. In a lot of films you will see a character pick up something Alien/foreign and use it immediately in the heat of combat. I think this film does more to establish the how behind that. She even fails with some things initially. And that is why I think it is a well-above average script/film.
I agree she does pull some John Wick moves (which is still not Kill Bill balance on sword and near-magical kungfu moves to me). And yes I could do without the backflip. But honestly it is a small part of this film and alsmost all action films I see have moments that stretch my willingless to believe. I think the film overall does a good job of setting it's rules and adhering to that. But I get the preference for a bit more grounded action.
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Predator 2 is awesome and I’ll die on that hill.
Predator 2 has a lot going for it but it’s biggest flaw is miscasting Danny “I’m too old for this shit” Glover in the lead. He’s just not credible going toe to toe against the Predator and, moreover, he’s no Arnold (quite possibly THE most charismatic action star in Hollywood history), so the movie is already at a disadvantage from the get go.
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I think it's a combination of them going "who can we get in the lead? who is hot right now?" and Danny Glover kinda fitting that description considering this was right off Lethal Weapon 1 & 2. But also it feels like them going slightly against what you would expect and they cast this 'average joe' type detective to make this different than having another giant buff commando as the lead. Though to Glover's defense, he actually is in pretty good shape in this.
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I watched it and I didn't like it. It was even worse than expected.
And I agree with the negative reviews on imdb.
This is not a Predator movie. It is not about the Predator, he just happens to be there. The whole movie is about "see? Women can do it too!!"
Nobody takes the girl seriously, nobody believes her and she is always right. Men are all portrayed as dumb.
Not to mention she beats an Indian guy one on one and no comment about the final fight. There is so much ridiculous, ludicruous stuff about the movie and so much that could be said negatively about it that I am amazed that it is even ranked 7.2 on imdb.
Predator kills everyone in less than a second, but the many opportunities that he had to kill the girl.. well.. I guess you can't kill the main character, right?
Rather than a Predator movie, I feel that this is almost like a Disney movie for feminists.
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We watched this a few weeks ago. I loved it. My wife is Native American, so it was nice to see this framed the way it was.
I loved the original Predator, really have disliked the films that followed. But this one was great. The writers, director and actors should all be pretty proud. Outstanding.
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Predator kills everyone in less than a second, but the many opportunities that he had to kill the girl.. well.. guess you can't kill the main character, right?
Did you even watch the movie? I mean her Brother gives the Predator a good fight....
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Finally watched this last night. It was good....Although, I'd personally put it behind Predator 2.....leaving the rankings for me as the Original, P2 then Prey. All the others are just equal parts of a pile of steaming poo.
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It's called plot armor. Many movies would be over very quickly if it wasn't applied.
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It's called plot armor. Many movies would be over very quickly if it wasn't applied.
You mean John Wick isn't as hard to kill as he seems? He's protected by the movie name....and his characters lore and the fact that 'he' is the reason the movies exist?
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It's called plot armor. Many movies would be over very quickly if it wasn't applied.
You mean John Wick isn't as hard to kill as he seems? He's protected by the movie name....and his characters lore and the fact that 'he' is the reason the movies exist?
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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I don't care who you are. You aren't getting up after being hit by a car the way John Wick was. Didn't he also fall off a building from several stories? Cool movies, but he died several times over in them.
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I don't care who you are. You aren't getting up after being hit by a car the way John Wick was. Didn't he also fall off a building from several stories? Cool movies, but he died several times over in them.
Yeah...I mean....the severe concussion(s) alone that he'd have suffered by now would make him an invalid.
Really fun movies though :metal
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To be fair in terms of plot armor I would say Prey isn't as bad as a lot of other movies. The main argument of 'she survives a whole movie against a Predator that easily kills other enemies' is a bit twisted because it's explained within the movie that from the observations of the Predator - she isn't "worthy" of being hunted and he goes after what he perceives as the alphas of this world. It's really only at the end that he comes to see her as a target and by then it's pretty clear that our PROTAGONIST of the movie will defeat the ANTAGONIST of the film. Just like in every other action movie. :)