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General => Movies and TV => Topic started by: lonestar on December 28, 2021, 11:50:17 AM
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Figure we need a spoiler thread for this one...
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I was under the impression it was airing on the 31st. Even better it comes out tomorrow, can't wait!
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I triple checked, it's the 29th.
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I was under the impression it was airing on the 31st. Even better it comes out tomorrow, can't wait!
31st will air Cobra Kai
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I'm super excited for this! Hope I have the opportunity to watch it tomorrow.
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Very solid beginning, wonder if they'll flip through back story and current throughout the show?
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I thought it was okay. Hoping the show goes a different route because this just kinda felt like Mandalorian 2.0 which is fine but I don't see the purpose for why this needed its own show yet - but I'm sure that will reveal itself over time.
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It was a fine start. Nothing super exciting about it, but it filled in some back story. Excited to see where it goes from here.
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They could have done a better job doing the back story and laying out a plot. This is supposed to be right after the Sarlac and he is that old? More story and less "action" would have been a better kickoff. It wasn't bad, but could have been a lot better. So far Mandalorian is in the win.
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They could have done a better job doing the back story and laying out a plot. This is supposed to be right after the Sarlac and he is that old? More story and less "action" would have been a better kickoff. It wasn't bad, but could have been a lot better. So far Mandalorian is in the win.
I mean……you have to give them some slack with the age thing. They showed the toxicity of the sarlac digestive juices and then him being exposed to a desert sun and wind unprotected. That’s good enough for the audience to be able to ‘forgive’ the fact the actor is twice the age the character would have been then.
It’s impossible to compare this to the Mandalorian yet and…..at least for me I probably won’t compare them. It’s two different stories and tones. The Mandalorian was unexpected and just fresh and new. I’m approaching this one with zero expectations.
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They could have done a better job doing the back story and laying out a plot. This is supposed to be right after the Sarlac and he is that old? More story and less "action" would have been a better kickoff. It wasn't bad, but could have been a lot better. So far Mandalorian is in the win.
I just want to know why he came out of the Sarlac having an accent. ;-)
It was kind of a slow episode. Not sure I have any reason to be invested in any of these characters, but I’ll give it a few episodes to get going.
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I'm just tickled to get maximum Fennec Shand....
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I liked it, but it felt a bit too much like some Mandalorian episodes. Like the ones where Mando is on Tatooine and it's just OT reference after OT reference. Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy that, but I'm just hoping the story develops into something more interesting. Hopefully some of the remaining six episodes (there's only seven total, right?) are a bit longer and give the show some time to breathe a bit.
All that said, I will never get sick of sand people, jawas, and the twi'leks.
And all that said, I've always thought Boba Fett was the most overrated character of all time. I was pretty annoyed that we finally got a live action show and it ended up being about a Mandalorian. And then was annoyed again when we finally got a second show and it was just about Boba Fett. First episode was enjoyable but hope it gets better from here.
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I'm just tickled to get maximum Fennec Shand....
Too bad Boba couldn’t wrangle up one of those slave girl outfits.
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Very solid beginning, wonder if they'll flip through back story and current throughout the show?
I'm fully expecting we will, and thus get two climax's. :heybaby:
I'm hoping that this thread gets less cynical very much just going to enjoy this for what it is, with no comparisons or expectations in mind.
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very much just going to enjoy this for what it is, with no comparisons or expectations in mind.
Exactly.
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I enjoyed it - the beginning moments with him escaping the Sarlacc was really cool to see after nearly 40 years since he went in there in ROTJ. Looking forward to the rest of the episodes.
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It was OK. Not as good (yet) as The Mandalorian, but it was a first episode. I didn't expect TOO much. Hopefully it gets better.
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I will say.....and this is my major complaint with every D+ show/spinoff thus far both Marvel and SW.......why the :censored aren't each of these episodes an hour? That first Boba Fett episode was 39 F'n minutes long. That's crap. I know full well that they could fill an hour each time. How much money are they really saving by these shorter episodes anyway? It's annoying as all hell.
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I will say.....and this is my major complaint with every D+ show/spinoff thus far both Marvel and SW.......why the :censored aren't each of these episodes an hour? That first Boba Fett episode was 39 F'n minutes long. That's crap. I know full well that they could fill an hour each time. How much money are they really saving by these shorter episodes anyway? It's annoying as all hell.
It's not really about money. They are largely letting the creatives involved determine this. They aren't going to pad an episode out to an hour if they only need 39 minutes to do what they intended. Besides, they haven't been billed as hour-length episodes or anything. The freedom to make the episodes as long or short as they need is one of the features of being on a streaming service, rather than a network. They don't have to worry about fitting into a timeslot between two other programs.
Having said that, Kevin Feige has said that most of the Marvel D+ shows would have in the neighborhood of 6 hours of content (in practice, a little less than 6 hours, if memory serves). But it's still up to the creatives for each show for how to divvy up the time. Most of the showrunners have opted for 6 episodes of around an hour (usually a little less), whereas WandaVision was divided into 9 episodes, with the first 3 or 4 noticeably shorter than the later episodes (resembling the lengths of sitcoms, naturally).
And again, they were never billed as hour-length episodes. You aren't being short-changed or anything.
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Yeah….I totally get that Hef. I know it wasn’t billed as an hour and we weren’t promised that…..I’m just selfish and want an hour. :lol
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Fair enough :lol
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I caught the episode yesterday morning and after thinking on the debut a bit more, I liked it enough. I really enjoyed the spaced-out, but still linear flashbacks, especially the long-speculated Sarlacc-Escape! It would be neat to see his Bacta-Tank flashbacks end with his first appearance in the Mandorian, which explains why he looks the way he did and why he had a gaffi stick.
The episode length didn't disappoint me, I feel like the episode ran just as long as it needed to to tell the story it needed to tell, although I think the sand-digging portion felt a BIT too long for my tastes.
-Marc.
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Jennifer Beals as a Twi'lek.
Nuff said :heart
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I will say.....and this is my major complaint with every D+ show/spinoff thus far both Marvel and SW.......why the :censored aren't each of these episodes an hour? That first Boba Fett episode was 39 F'n minutes long. That's crap. I know full well that they could fill an hour each time. How much money are they really saving by these shorter episodes anyway? It's annoying as all hell.
It's not really about money. They are largely letting the creatives involved determine this. They aren't going to pad an episode out to an hour if they only need 39 minutes to do what they intended. Besides, they haven't been billed as hour-length episodes or anything. The freedom to make the episodes as long or short as they need is one of the features of being on a streaming service, rather than a network. They don't have to worry about fitting into a timeslot between two other programs.
Having said that, Kevin Feige has said that most of the Marvel D+ shows would have in the neighborhood of 6 hours of content (in practice, a little less than 6 hours, if memory serves). But it's still up to the creatives for each show for how to divvy up the time. Most of the showrunners have opted for 6 episodes of around an hour (usually a little less), whereas WandaVision was divided into 9 episodes, with the first 3 or 4 noticeably shorter than the later episodes (resembling the lengths of sitcoms, naturally).
And again, they were never billed as hour-length episodes. You aren't being short-changed or anything.
And "hour-long" network shows are actually only ~44 minutes without the commercials.
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I will say.....and this is my major complaint with every D+ show/spinoff thus far both Marvel and SW.......why the :censored aren't each of these episodes an hour? That first Boba Fett episode was 39 F'n minutes long. That's crap. I know full well that they could fill an hour each time. How much money are they really saving by these shorter episodes anyway? It's annoying as all hell.
It's not really about money. They are largely letting the creatives involved determine this. They aren't going to pad an episode out to an hour if they only need 39 minutes to do what they intended. Besides, they haven't been billed as hour-length episodes or anything. The freedom to make the episodes as long or short as they need is one of the features of being on a streaming service, rather than a network. They don't have to worry about fitting into a timeslot between two other programs.
Having said that, Kevin Feige has said that most of the Marvel D+ shows would have in the neighborhood of 6 hours of content (in practice, a little less than 6 hours, if memory serves). But it's still up to the creatives for each show for how to divvy up the time. Most of the showrunners have opted for 6 episodes of around an hour (usually a little less), whereas WandaVision was divided into 9 episodes, with the first 3 or 4 noticeably shorter than the later episodes (resembling the lengths of sitcoms, naturally).
And again, they were never billed as hour-length episodes. You aren't being short-changed or anything.
And "hour-long" network shows are actually only ~44 minutes without the commercials.
I get that. But there are a ton of stream only shows that are 50-55 minutes long. I would just think that there really is no reason for them not to craft/plan around 45-55 minute episodes. I know 'some' longer episodes are sprinkled in but for the most part these D+ shows have been 35-40 minute episodes. To me, it'd seem like you could tell a much better story with the additional 60-80 minutes longer episodes would get you over a season.
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Episode two was better than the first one, by far! Loved seeing the new antagonists roll into Mos Espa and their gladiator Warrior looks imposing and impressive! I hope it gets to fight at some point!
I also enjoyed at Boba's flashback was contained to all one part of the episode, and I can see how folks might compare and contrast the two "stories" being told here from Boba's past and present. Seeing him become closer with the Tuskens has been one of the more intriguing parts of the series so far and today's episode really showcased the impressive writing for these flashback segments.
-Marc.
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Pretty solid episode! And, it was 53 minutes….well, actually 48 but still.
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I don't know, I didn't enjoy the flashback scenes so much. I mean the whole ritual of him getting his weapon was cool and all but felt like they spent too much time on his past. I was more interested in the current storyline with the Hutt twins.
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I don't know, I didn't enjoy the flashback scenes so much. I mean the whole ritual of him getting his weapon was cool and all but felt like they spent too much time on his past. I was more interested in the current storyline with the Hutt twins.
I believe all they’re doing with these flashbacks is so that the final flashback can/will be of him on there ridge line where we first saw him in the Mandalorian watching from a distance. I’m sure they’ll tell a neat story as well along the way.
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Jennifer Beals as a Twi'lek.
Nuff said :heart
Holy carp!!! She's almost 60 years old. :drool:
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Jennifer Beals as a Twi'lek.
Nuff said :heart
Holy carp!!! She's almost 60 years old. :drool:
Wow, she has aged gracefully, has she not?
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I enjoyed episode 2 a lot. I'm personally more interested in the current plotline as opposed to the flashback plot, so I hope that starts to develop and get more focus in episode 3.
Has any read or heard anything that explains the timeline between when Boba fell into the Sarlaac and when he made his way out? Curious if the flashbacks are happening during the events of ROTJ, or if some time has passed.
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Has any read or heard anything that explains the timeline between when Boba fell into the Sarlaac and when he made his way out? Curious if the flashbacks are happening during the events of ROTJ, or if some time has passed.
The skiff wreckage looks to be sand blown over a bit and the sarlac tentacle that was severed by Lando with the gun shot seems to be withering. I don't think there's a good place to find out how long passed but I bet it was a handful of days.
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Has any read or heard anything that explains the timeline between when Boba fell into the Sarlaac and when he made his way out? Curious if the flashbacks are happening during the events of ROTJ, or if some time has passed.
The skiff wreckage looks to be sand blown over a bit and the sarlac tentacle that was severed by Lando with the gun shot seems to be withering. I don't think there's a good place to find out how long passed but I bet it was a handful of days.
I'd be surprised if it was even that long. The human body can't survive without water for more than a handful of days. I'd say 1-2 days tops in the Sarlaac
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Has any read or heard anything that explains the timeline between when Boba fell into the Sarlaac and when he made his way out? Curious if the flashbacks are happening during the events of ROTJ, or if some time has passed.
The skiff wreckage looks to be sand blown over a bit and the sarlac tentacle that was severed by Lando with the gun shot seems to be withering. I don't think there's a good place to find out how long passed but I bet it was a handful of days.
I'd be surprised if it was even that long. The human body can't survive without water for more than a handful of days. I'd say 1-2 days tops in the Sarlaac
Doesn't the Sarlaac keep them alive while being digested? Otherwise how can they experience a new level of pain being digested over a thousand years if they die in 2 days?
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Has any read or heard anything that explains the timeline between when Boba fell into the Sarlaac and when he made his way out? Curious if the flashbacks are happening during the events of ROTJ, or if some time has passed.
The skiff wreckage looks to be sand blown over a bit and the sarlac tentacle that was severed by Lando with the gun shot seems to be withering. I don't think there's a good place to find out how long passed but I bet it was a handful of days.
I'd be surprised if it was even that long. The human body can't survive without water for more than a handful of days. I'd say 1-2 days tops in the Sarlaac
Doesn't the Sarlaac keep them alive while being digested? Otherwise how can they experience a new level of pain being digested over a thousand years if they die in 2 days?
I never thought about it that way ... that line always bothered me, like how does someone stay alive for that long without air and essential nutrients? :D
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Has any read or heard anything that explains the timeline between when Boba fell into the Sarlaac and when he made his way out? Curious if the flashbacks are happening during the events of ROTJ, or if some time has passed.
The skiff wreckage looks to be sand blown over a bit and the sarlac tentacle that was severed by Lando with the gun shot seems to be withering. I don't think there's a good place to find out how long passed but I bet it was a handful of days.
I'd be surprised if it was even that long. The human body can't survive without water for more than a handful of days. I'd say 1-2 days tops in the Sarlaac
Doesn't the Sarlaac keep them alive while being digested? Otherwise how can they experience a new level of pain being digested over a thousand years if they die in 2 days?
I never thought about it that way ... that line always bothered me, like how does someone stay alive for that long without air and essential nutrients? :D
Plus...it seems like a horrible way to ensure survival. I mean....food has to be scarce naturally so I'd think the thing would be STARVING by the time something accidentally falls in.....I'd want to digest that up ASAP and get some nutrients. :lol
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Well that would just defeat the whole purpose of Jabba's intimidation techniques now, wouldn't it?
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So far this isn't blowing my skirt up at all.
I wish he'd just be a bounty hunter and not a gang leader. He could go hunt remaining Jedi even.
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It was cool of Neal Morse to make an appearance in this episode!
Also, I literally asked a few minutes before the lizard went in his brain, “where do they get the wood for those staffs? I’ve never seen a tree on Tatooine.” And then that happened!
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So far this isn't blowing my skirt up at all.
I wish he'd just be a bounty hunter and not a gang leader. He could go hunt remaining Jedi even.
ya know... This is a good point. I probably would have preferred a series about Fett being a.bad ass bounty hunter.
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So far this isn't blowing my skirt up at all.
I wish he'd just be a bounty hunter and not a gang leader. He could go hunt remaining Jedi even.
ya know... This is a good point. I probably would have preferred a series about Fett being a.bad ass bounty hunter.
I guess this honestly never occurred to me because I never (and *especially* since the prequels) viewed Boba Fett as a bounty hunter. I only saw him as a mercenary, who occasionally takes jobs as a bounty hunter. So when I saw there was going to be a show about Boba Fett (and especially with the set up in The Mandalorian) the idea of him being “a bounty hunter” was the furthest thing from my mind.
In fact, I would have been shocked, and maybe even a bit disappointed if it had. It would feel like a step backwards to me.
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I paid the vig. You're welcome
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No idea which noob locked this, but I blame Nick.
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Don't hate the show in its own right, but whoever this character is its not Boba Fett.
Its veered way off course of what was set up originally in Empire and Jedi. He never wanted to rule over stuff. He's a ruthless, loner Bounty hunter for hire. And why he keeps constantly taking his helmet off, I'll never understand.
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Looking back at my statement, I should reword it to read:
I never viewed Boba Fett as strictly a bounty hunter…
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Since he was strictly referred to and portrayed as a bounty hunter in V and VI, I'm not sure what else he should be have been viewed as.
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Since he was strictly referred to and portrayed as a bounty hunter in V and VI, I'm not sure what else he should be have been viewed as.
Well, like I said…with his background with his father in the prequels, and the setup in The Mandalorian, it seemed clear to me that he was more mercenary than anything else. But whatever pays the bills, so to speak. Bounty hunting would be one of those things.
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I think we will learn what has changed his mind and mindset through the flashbactas during his time with the Tusken Raiders. I think his initiation into their tribe will veer him off from being a mercenary and bounty hunter and come want to turn his life around.
-Marc.
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Don't hate the show in its own right, but whoever this character is its not Boba Fett.
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Don't hate the show in its own right, but whoever this character is its not Boba Fett.
Its veered way off course of what was set up originally in Empire and Jedi. He never wanted to rule over stuff. He's a ruthless, loner Bounty hunter for hire. And why he keeps constantly taking his helmet off, I'll never understand.
He has so little screen time in the original trilogy and prequels. How could anyone get a grasp of his character or intentions? He apparently doesn't follow the old ways, so taking his helmet off isn't an issue. I for sure wouldn't want to be wearing a helmet all the time.
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Yeah... I’m not getting all the dislike. The dude was understandably disarmed by a band of glowing eyed midgets. I think the ‘helmet-never-comes-off’ ship has sailed.
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Honestly, the dude who plays Boba Fett just feels like a weird choice age-wise. He just doesn’t look like he should be surviving the beating he’s taking, or kicking as much butt as he does. The original Boba Fett was a much slimmer guy without an accent, and I don’t think anyone had the impression he was in his 60s during Empire and ROTJ.
I also do wonder why they went to so much trouble to develop the Mandalorian lore in The Mandalorian for a completely separate character and then bring Boba Fett back to not be that.
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Honestly, the dude who plays Boba Fett just feels like a weird choice age-wise. He just doesn’t look like he should be surviving the beating he’s taking, or kicking as much butt as he does. The original Boba Fett was a much slimmer guy without an accent, and I don’t think anyone had the impression he was in his 60s during Empire and ROTJ.
Yeah, I kinda agree with that. But it's been entertaining enough that I'm not letting that bother me too much.
I also do wonder why they went to so much trouble to develop the Mandalorian lore in The Mandalorian for a completely separate character and then bring Boba Fett back to not be that.
It didn't develop a universal Madalorian lore. That lore is specific to that small fanatical sect that Mando is a part of. Even if you haven't seen any of the animated shows, The Madalorian itself makes that clear in later episodes.
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I also do wonder why they went to so much trouble to develop the Mandalorian lore in The Mandalorian for a completely separate character and then bring Boba Fett back to not be that.
It didn't develop a universal Madalorian lore. That lore is specific to that small fanatical sect that Mando is a part of. Even if you haven't seen any of the animated shows, The Madalorian itself makes that clear in later episodes.
Didn't Bo Katan and her partner even rip on Mando about it?
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I also do wonder why they went to so much trouble to develop the Mandalorian lore in The Mandalorian for a completely separate character and then bring Boba Fett back to not be that.
It didn't develop a universal Madalorian lore. That lore is specific to that small fanatical sect that Mando is a part of. Even if you haven't seen any of the animated shows, The Madalorian itself makes that clear in later episodes.
Didn't Bo Katan and her partner even rip on Mando about it?
Yeah, that's all true. Still, the impetus for a standalone show about Mandalorians was mainly Boba Fett, right? Maybe there is more in the animated shows that plays into it (never have seen those).
I am curious where they are going with Boba Fett's character. I'm assuming he's going towards some sort of redemption as a character. It would be weird if he just becomes the new crime boss in Jobba's place.
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Don't hate the show in its own right, but whoever this character is its not Boba Fett.
Its veered way off course of what was set up originally in Empire and Jedi. He never wanted to rule over stuff. He's a ruthless, loner Bounty hunter for hire. And why he keeps constantly taking his helmet off, I'll never understand.
He had a handful of lines and not much screen time in the OT. I don't know how that would leave anyone thinking they know all that much about the character.
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Don't hate the show in its own right, but whoever this character is its not Boba Fett.
Its veered way off course of what was set up originally in Empire and Jedi. He never wanted to rule over stuff. He's a ruthless, loner Bounty hunter for hire. And why he keeps constantly taking his helmet off, I'll never understand.
He had a handful of lines and not much screen time in the OT. I don't know how that would leave anyone thinking they know all that much about the character.
You must be new to the Internet.
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Pretty lukewarm (not a luke pun) on this show so far. It's not terrible or anything but I really don't get why we needed this show considering we already have The Mandalorian. I guess I was partly skeptical because I never thought much of Boba Fett to begin with - pretty useless character with minimum screen time in the OT movies who has a comical death, who similar to Darth Maul has been hyped up over decades in other venues (comics, games, whatever else) but aside from an iconic looking armor there's really not much exciting to grasp onto for me.
We're only at the beginning of Disney making Star Wars shows and it just feels like we're running on the fumes of ideas from decades ago. I'm sure this season will bring in <insert familiar face from any of the movies> to get people hyped up and that buzz will keep the show going into next season where they might do the same. If we didn't have The Mandalorian already I might be more positive on this show but did we really need another show with a grumpy stoic 'Clint Eastwood' gunslinger doing bounty hunter things while meeting wacky side characters?
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pretty useless character with minimum screen time in the OT movies who has a comical death, who similar to Darth Maul has been hyped up over decades in other venues (comics, games, whatever else) but aside from an iconic looking armor there's really not much exciting to grasp onto for me.
Funny you should say that. I was having a conversation about this with my 16 year old the other day. He was saying he didn't like how the first episode made Boba Fett look too weak. I told him I thought that was a really odd criticism, and pointed out that he hasn't really done anything in any of the cannon material to give the impression that he's anything special. On the contrary, he's the guy that died because somebody bumped into him too hard. :lol
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I'm digging the show, though if I were in charge at Disney/Lucasfilm, I wouldn't have made this the 2nd Star Wars live action show.
It's just....too damn similar to Mando in so many ways. I think if they had done 2 other, quite different, live action shows after Mando season 2, then this would've been seen in a slightly better light.
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When The Book of Boba Fett was announced (basically the end credits scene in the last episode of The Mandalorian season 2), I remember some people thought that that meant it was the end of The Mandalorian and that we'd be following Boba Fett now. I thought it was clear that that's how they were announcing the new series, but I also wondered why we needed two shows about Mandalorians. Basically they're just more stories set in a familiar universe, and as long as the stories are good, I'm on board, but it does seem like they could've come up with something very different and instead settled on "more of the same, mostly".
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To be fair, they also had The Bad Batch between Mando S2 and TBOBF, but I understand that not everyone watches the animated Star Wars content. Admittedly, I haven't, but I hear a lot of great things about Clone Wars, Rebels, and Bad Batch, and they're all Canon to the films.
Going forward, we do have some very different shows coming up like Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, and Andor, so I think we're in for a treat as far as live-action SW content on Disney+.
I'm hoping TBOBF will slowly carve out its own identity apart from The Mandalorian, and I think it already has, especially with Boba's flashbactas, giving us a glimpse into a kind of story that we haven't seen in SW yet. Sure, some folks might be more interested in the crime lord aspect, but we've also had those in SW before, especially with Jabba the Hutt. It will be interesting to see them develop that a bit, though, and I wouldn't mind seeing it connect to Solo, which set up crime syndicates like the Crimson Dawn. Qi'ra cameo, anyone?
-Marc.
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To be fair, they also had The Bad Batch between Mando S2 and TBOBF, but I understand that not everyone watches the animated Star Wars content. Admittedly, I haven't, but I hear a lot of great things about Clone Wars, Rebels, and Bad Batch, and they're all Canon to the films.
Going forward, we do have some very different shows coming up like Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, and Andor, so I think we're in for a treat as far as live-action SW content on Disney+.
I'm hoping TBOBF will slowly carve out its own identity apart from The Mandalorian, and I think it already has, especially with Boba's flashbactas, giving us a glimpse into a kind of story that we haven't seen in SW yet. Sure, some folks might be more interested in the crime lord aspect, but we've also had those in SW before, especially with Jabba the Hutt. It will be interesting to see them develop that a bit, though, and I wouldn't mind seeing it connect to Solo, which set up crime syndicates like the Crimson Dawn. Qi'ra cameo, anyone?
-Marc.
Speaking of Solo, I'm wondering if we'll get an appearance by Han in this series similar to how Luke shows up at the end of The Mandalorian. Maybe Boba and Han mend fences and team up to take down the Hutt clan or something.
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I'm enjoying it. As for why he's not doing so much bounty hunting: guy is in his mid-late forties and going through a Sarlacc didn't do him any favours. Finding a more stable form of power and income makes sense.
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I'm enjoying it. As for why he's not doing so much bounty hunting: guy is in his mid-late forties and going through a Sarlacc didn't do him any favours. Finding a more stable form of power and income makes sense.
That's how I look at it. Not to be too spoilery but in the Clone Wars.....there is a story arc with a young Boba and he basically takes up with a group of free agent bounty hunters/crime syndicate where they aren't always bounty hunting....they're stealing, conning etc etc. Doing anything to gain money and power. So, it's not as if he was raised as a strict mandalorian. I'm sure he gravitated towards it in later years because of his father....but his character 'cannon' has his background painted as someone out to make money and seek power....not strictly abide by the mandalorian code.
I mean, we're two episodes in to the series. And for me, thus far it's been pretty insightful and interesting. Like a few have mentioned....it's not like there was this massive back story about Boba Fett in the OT. He had a cool 'look' and was called a bounty hunter. There wasn't a foundation that was necessary to adhere to other than the look and perhaps others in that universe maybe being aware of who he is/was.
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To be fair, they also had The Bad Batch between Mando S2 and TBOBF, but I understand that not everyone watches the animated Star Wars content. Admittedly, I haven't, but I hear a lot of great things about Clone Wars, Rebels, and Bad Batch, and they're all Canon to the films.
Going forward, we do have some very different shows coming up like Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, and Andor, so I think we're in for a treat as far as live-action SW content on Disney+.
I'm hoping TBOBF will slowly carve out its own identity apart from The Mandalorian, and I think it already has, especially with Boba's flashbactas, giving us a glimpse into a kind of story that we haven't seen in SW yet. Sure, some folks might be more interested in the crime lord aspect, but we've also had those in SW before, especially with Jabba the Hutt. It will be interesting to see them develop that a bit, though, and I wouldn't mind seeing it connect to Solo, which set up crime syndicates like the Crimson Dawn. Qi'ra cameo, anyone?
-Marc.
Speaking of Solo, I'm wondering if we'll get an appearance by Han in this series similar to how Luke shows up at the end of The Mandalorian. Maybe Boba and Han mend fences and team up to take down the Hutt clan or something.
I doubt Harrison Ford would be up for that. They had to roll him out of bed just for his cameo in Rise of Skywalker.
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To be fair, they also had The Bad Batch between Mando S2 and TBOBF, but I understand that not everyone watches the animated Star Wars content. Admittedly, I haven't, but I hear a lot of great things about Clone Wars, Rebels, and Bad Batch, and they're all Canon to the films.
Going forward, we do have some very different shows coming up like Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, and Andor, so I think we're in for a treat as far as live-action SW content on Disney+.
I'm hoping TBOBF will slowly carve out its own identity apart from The Mandalorian, and I think it already has, especially with Boba's flashbactas, giving us a glimpse into a kind of story that we haven't seen in SW yet. Sure, some folks might be more interested in the crime lord aspect, but we've also had those in SW before, especially with Jabba the Hutt. It will be interesting to see them develop that a bit, though, and I wouldn't mind seeing it connect to Solo, which set up crime syndicates like the Crimson Dawn. Qi'ra cameo, anyone?
-Marc.
Speaking of Solo, I'm wondering if we'll get an appearance by Han in this series similar to how Luke shows up at the end of The Mandalorian. Maybe Boba and Han mend fences and team up to take down the Hutt clan or something.
I doubt Harrison Ford would be up for that. They had to roll him out of bed just for his cameo in Rise of Skywalker.
Yeah, I think Ford is completely done with SW at this point. He's probably nearly done with Indiana Jones as well, especially once the fifth one comes out.
I think a more likely cameo could be someone like my aforementioned Qi'ra, given her ties to crime syndicates, or even someone Watto or Sebulba, if they're still alive by the time after ROTJ.
-Marc.
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When HOF brought it up, I wasn’t even thinking about Ford (for reasons already mentioned). My mind went immediately to Alden Ehrenreich, which I don’t think is that far fetched.
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When HOF brought it up, I wasn’t even thinking about Ford (for reasons already mentioned). My mind went immediately to Alden Ehrenreich, which I don’t think is that far fetched.
But he’s Harrison Ford at that point. It’d be really off putting to have young Han show up as older Han when we already know what Han looks like there.
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When HOF brought it up, I wasn’t even thinking about Ford (for reasons already mentioned). My mind went immediately to Alden Ehrenreich, which I don’t think is that far fetched.
Yeah, I was thinking the younger guy from Solo (assuming that’s the Alden guy). Or they could CGI it like Luke I guess but that wouldn’t work too well for more than just a brief appearance.
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How about that one guy that everyone wanted the first time that actually sounds like Ford, and can probably be dressed up to look just like him too?
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When HOF brought it up, I wasn’t even thinking about Ford (for reasons already mentioned). My mind went immediately to Alden Ehrenreich, which I don’t think is that far fetched.
But he’s Harrison Ford at that point. It’d be really off putting to have young Han show up as older Han when we already know what Han looks like there.
Alden is just 10 years younger than Ford was when he was shooting Jedi. I don’t think it’s that big of a stretch. Did we just establish in this thread that we are in a time just post-ROTJ?
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Was up early this morning so I watched chapter 3. I feel like there's too much building up for something and not enough happening right now. I haven't been blown away with this series so far. I'll keep watching of course and hope the end will redeem the slow start.
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When HOF brought it up, I wasn’t even thinking about Ford (for reasons already mentioned). My mind went immediately to Alden Ehrenreich, which I don’t think is that far fetched.
But he’s Harrison Ford at that point. It’d be really off putting to have young Han show up as older Han when we already know what Han looks like there.
Alden is just 10 years younger than Ford was when he was shooting Jedi. I don’t think it’s that big of a stretch. Did we just establish in this thread that we are in a time just post-ROTJ?
yeah?? I think we're all assuming that it's right after the time established by The Mandalorian given he has his armour, and the partnership with Fennec
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This show is like the Mandolorian in that it basically is a bunch of flashy stuff happens onscreen but with barely any plot or dialog of note. Mandalorian was at least fun though, in a sort of throwback to 80's TV serials. Book of Fett hasn't really caught a light yet, these first 3 episodes have actually been pretty bland and the action strangely unengaging so far (witness the chase in this recent episode), I'm not really digging Boba Fett much as a character either which isn't helping.
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I liked Chapter 3 quite a lot! The fight with Krrsantan was a lot of fun and I enjoyed the chase through Mos Espa. It'll be interesting to see how Boba gets along with the Pyke Syndicate both in his past and in the present.
-Marc.
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This show is like the Mandolorian in that it basically is a bunch of flashy stuff happens onscreen but with barely any plot or dialog of note. Mandalorian was at least fun though, in a sort of throwback to 80's TV serials. Book of Fett hasn't really caught a light yet, these first 3 episodes have actually been pretty bland and the action strangely unengaging so far (witness the chase in this recent episode), I'm not really digging Boba Fett much as a character either which isn't helping.
Yeah, I agree. There’s nothing really drawing me in to this show. The Boba Fett of the OT was a shadowy, mysterious character. I think it actually detracts from the character’s appeal by giving him this sort of follow on story. I think sometimes you can overexplain things which would have been better left to the imagination.
It still freaks me out to think that the original stormtroopers all look like Boba Fett under their helmets.
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Yeah...I'm starting to see a lot of wasted potential in this one, really hope it picks up. That chase scene reeked of cheesiness, almost painful to watch. Really hoping it picks up.
Also, with a whole galaxy to play in, why the fuck do they keep going back to Tatooine?
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Agreed. That chase was NOT good at all - I said to jingle.son, “it’s no Bourne Identity, that’s for sure”. Those scooters the kids had were lame. Everything else was fine though. I’m thinking the Rancor and handler ... :itsatrap: if not, quite the twist / direction to go with the creature.
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Yeah, the rancor was dope... Definitely hope they pull in that thread more.
Guess I better change the thread title since we're whining now....
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Watched it last night and can whole heartedly agree that the chase scene was utter cheese. From the design of those hover motor cycles to the fact they were going all of 25 mph through the streets.....it was just....bad. Surprising with all the resources available.
It's just tough to see what the 'end game' is here? How's this advancing the story of which they've admitted all of these shows they're doing will ultimately culminate in their storylines meeting up with one another. Outside of Boba just wanting to be a boss....it's tough to see the point of this show right now. I dug the first two episodes but this one was kind of a throw away. Short episode with really nothing to offer other than we found out the Mayor is teaming up with the Pyke Syndicate.....which really doesn't surprise anyone.
Anyway....I'm still thinking the final flashback Bacta tank dream scene will be Boba watching the Mandalorian ride off with his old armor from that hillside......and that in this 'war' that's coming up the Pyke Syndicate will believe they have Boba outnumbered and beaten at some point and then the Tuskan's will show up just in time to save the day. What happens in between that is what I'm curious about.
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Am I the only one that LOVED seeing Danny Trejo show up as the Rancor handler? It was also directed by Robert Rodriguez, which was cool.
I had to do a little reading, since it's been a while from watching Solo, but the Pyke Syndicate is the crime syndicate from that film. So I think the show is just going to be a little thing that connects the characters from that film to the Disney+ show universe. We may see Q'ira or Darth Maul show up at the end - I've read that Q'ira is a big rumored cameo, but I would bet on a live action Maul too.
This show is just a vehicle that gives fans a little backstory for Boba Fett and it allows some potential crossover from the films/cartoons to the live action shows. I'm not expecting anything more out of it.
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I had to do a little reading, since it's been a while from watching Solo, but the Pyke Syndicate is the crime syndicate from that film. So I think the show is just going to be a little thing that connects the characters from that film to the Disney+ show universe. We may see Q'ira or Darth Maul show up at the end - I've read that Q'ira is a big rumored cameo, but I would bet on a live action Maul too.
I think that's probably where this is going as it would make the most sense given the timeframe and the underworld aspect of the show.
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Yeah...I'm starting to see a lot of wasted potential in this one, really hope it picks up. That chase scene reeked of cheesiness, almost painful to watch. Really hoping it picks up.
Also, with a whole galaxy to play in, why the fuck do they keep going back to Tatooine?
Why are most of Marvel's heroes centered around New York? Maybe the folks at Lucasfilm just like the location and want to explore it a bit more. Don't be upset when we're on Tatooine for the majority of the Obi-Wan series as well. I don't think this will be the last of the Outer Rim desert planet we see in the Star Wars universe.
I had to do a little reading, since it's been a while from watching Solo, but the Pyke Syndicate is the crime syndicate from that film. So I think the show is just going to be a little thing that connects the characters from that film to the Disney+ show universe. We may see Q'ira or Darth Maul show up at the end - I've read that Q'ira is a big rumored cameo, but I would bet on a live action Maul too.
I think that's probably where this is going as it would make the most sense given the timeframe and the underworld aspect of the show.
Qi'ra definitely, but Maul should be dead-dead by the time of this show. He was dead before A New Hope, so hopefully they don't bring him back to life AGAIN. Seeing Qi'ra again would definitely add more connective tissue to Solo, which, if we're getting more connections to it, I may have to rewatch that film sometime soon.
-Marc.
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Qi'ra definitely, but Maul should be dead-dead by the time of this show. He was dead before A New Hope, so hopefully they don't bring him back to life AGAIN. Seeing Qi'ra again would definitely add more connective tissue to Solo, which, if we're getting more connections to it, I may have to rewatch that film sometime soon.
Yep. What's funny is after I typed my last post I hopped into a meeting and was sitting there then it hit me that Maul can't show up in this series. He's legit dead at this time. And, I don't see him being able to force ghost his way into it. IF they go that route.....it'd be Qi'ra
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Qi'ra definitely, but Maul should be dead-dead by the time of this show. He was dead before A New Hope, so hopefully they don't bring him back to life AGAIN. Seeing Qi'ra again would definitely add more connective tissue to Solo, which, if we're getting more connections to it, I may have to rewatch that film sometime soon.
Yep. What's funny is after I typed my last post I hopped into a meeting and was sitting there then it hit me that Maul can't show up in this series. He's legit dead at this time. And, I don't see him being able to force ghost his way into it. IF they go that route.....it'd be Qi'ra
I'd love to see a Qi'ra appearance. More so than a Han Solo cameo, which has been long speculated. I'd love them to expand on characters from Solo and eventually make Solo 2, or a Solo D+ series or something.
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Qi'ra definitely, but Maul should be dead-dead by the time of this show. He was dead before A New Hope, so hopefully they don't bring him back to life AGAIN. Seeing Qi'ra again would definitely add more connective tissue to Solo, which, if we're getting more connections to it, I may have to rewatch that film sometime soon.
Yep. What's funny is after I typed my last post I hopped into a meeting and was sitting there then it hit me that Maul can't show up in this series. He's legit dead at this time. And, I don't see him being able to force ghost his way into it. IF they go that route.....it'd be Qi'ra
I have never watched a single episode of the Star Wars cartoon series. I remember hearing that they resurrected Maul for the show and saw him in Solo. If he was killed off again, that's not something I'm aware of.
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Qi'ra definitely, but Maul should be dead-dead by the time of this show. He was dead before A New Hope, so hopefully they don't bring him back to life AGAIN. Seeing Qi'ra again would definitely add more connective tissue to Solo, which, if we're getting more connections to it, I may have to rewatch that film sometime soon.
Yep. What's funny is after I typed my last post I hopped into a meeting and was sitting there then it hit me that Maul can't show up in this series. He's legit dead at this time. And, I don't see him being able to force ghost his way into it. IF they go that route.....it'd be Qi'ra
I have never watched a single episode of the Star Wars cartoon series. I remember hearing that they resurrected Maul for the show and saw him in Solo. If he was killed off again, that's not something I'm aware of.
It was an interesting way they went about his resurrection....it worked well with the story and they were able to add a lot of 'meat' to a character that didn't get much time onscreen to really develop. He became quite an interesting character for sure. I'll go ahead and small font it but it's not really spoilerly because it's been around for years but he was OBSESSED with getting revenge on Kenobi....that was the driving force that basically kept him alive....anyway, he ultimately tracked down Kenobi on Tatooine when they were both much older.....had a brief conversation with him....then they battled. It was quick as Maul tried to use the same sequence/method to kill Kenobi as he did his Master all those years ago.....Kenobi noticed that and it was a brief fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeG215-yu-k
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So I have been thinking about my issues with this show. I mostly enjoy it, but I still see considerable issues with it.
1) As I stated earlier, I think it's too similar to Mandalorian to be the next show. They needed a pallet cleanser or something with a different spirit/tone in between them.
2) I am simply unsure what the point of the show is. We're almost half way done and we have a guy who escaped death, bonded with a group of ........oh yea, it's Lawrence of Arabia. At least the flashbacks are. The modern stuff seems a little too just out of nowhere. I need to know WHY a character is doing what they are doing. I get that he is becoming a mob boss etc, but I have no idea why.. Just cause? I dunno. I need to connect with a character's motivations. I'm sure they will explain it through flashbacks, but you need some of that motivation from the beginning to latch on to and thus far, we just don't have it. I have no idea why he's doing what he's doing and finding out in the end doesn't make up for it.
3) I think there's a major clash between plot and tone. This is a dark show in plot. A bounty hunter who decides to become a mob boss and fight to claim his territory just doesn't lend itself to PG Disney tone. That kind of plot needs darkness. Instead you have a clash of "Guy wants to run a seedy underworld" and "Guy pets a Rankor like a kitten and also tells people no more killing." They just don't go well together, and the result is something so watered down that it lacks the impact it may have intended to have. It's a prime example of the difference between idea and execution. The lack of ability to get dark and violent was VERY evident when Crunchy (that's what I'm calling evil Chewy) fought Boba and the gang. Boba got bit hard, punched with spiked knuckles, and literally crushed and walked away with even a scratch. Crunch got stabbed multiple times and was fine. The Shrek twins, I thought, got at least parts of them bitten off but were fine. You can't have a fight like that, with no repercussions, and expect us to be that invested unless you tell us Boba is a super powered person of sorts, which he's not.
4) Much of it is just boring. That chase scene was so low stakes and boring that my fiancée and I kept talking about how bored we were, which not something we do during a Star Wars show. It feels like the episodes have half or less of an episode's worth of plot and just stretch it out. The flash back stuff has some energy and drive to it, but the modern stuff is just.........bland. I don't know who Boba really is, I don't know who Ming Na's character really is. I don't know who the Mayor is. I don't know who the Pykes or whatever are. I don't know who that Bib Fortuna looking dude is. As of now they're just kind of there and doing stuff without reason. I have no idea why anyone is doing anything.
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I have no idea why anyone is doing anything.
But the anticipation of it all ....
I had a boss once tell / teach me, "If you can't convince them, confuse them". :lol
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@Adami: I don't feel quite as strongly as you on any of those points, but I pretty much agree with all of them.
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@Adami: I don't feel quite as strongly as you on any of those points, but I pretty much agree with all of them.
Well god damn. If this didn’t make my day. :laugh:
But while said a lot, I’m also still mostly enjoying the show.
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I am...enjoying that I can sit with the wife and kids and immerse myself in the familiarity of the SW universe for about 40 minutes a week.
But I'm hoping it goes somewhere that makes sense and is enjoyable.
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Just watched the first 3 tonight. Yes, Danny Trejo showing up is awesome. Rodriguez directed the 1st and 3rd eps so far and is an Exec Prod. That is absolutely why Machete showed up.
My thoughts, this is a revenge show. The Pyke's probably worked with the speeder gang to wipe out the Sand People tribe. I am guessing that Boba has a score to settle on behalf of his adopted tribe. I mean, there has been no payback yet in the flashbacks. I figure that will happen with the upcoming war.
EDIT: And, yes, Jennifer Beals is freaking ageless. No work done that I can see and still as beautiful as ever.
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If Black Krrsantan was called "Crunchy" to his face, he'd probably rip your arms off. :lol
As for Boba's motivations to keeping the peace on Tatooine, it seems like it will definitely tie in with his time with the Tuskens. He has seen the kind of strife and inequality the planet has fallen into his Jabba's rule, and he wants to balance it all out, and keep the Tuskens safe from crime syndicates and roaming gangs, even if means going to war with the Pykes.
-Marc.
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So I have been thinking about my issues with this show. I mostly enjoy it, but I still see considerable issues with it.
1) As I stated earlier, I think it's too similar to Mandalorian to be the next show. They needed a pallet cleanser or something with a different spirit/tone in between them.
3) I think there's a major clash between plot and tone. This is a dark show in plot. A bounty hunter who decides to become a mob boss and fight to claim his territory just doesn't lend itself to PG Disney tone. That kind of plot needs darkness. Instead you have a clash of "Guy wants to run a seedy underworld" and "Guy pets a Rankor like a kitten and also tells people no more killing." They just don't go well together, and the result is something so watered down that it lacks the impact it may have intended to.
Your whole post was spot on but these two aspects really hit the nail on the head about how I feel about the show. I haven’t seen episode three yet, and I won’t pretend to intimately know the ins and outs of the entire Star Wars cannon but when did Boba Fett become such a goody good?? I thought Boba Fett was the most ruthless and feared bounty Hunter in the galaxy, the guy who had no qualms about taking out Han, Luke, or Leia if the price was right, the guy who even Darth f-ing Vader had say “tone it down” to- “No disintegrations”. Now, he’s saving Tusken Raider kids and lecturing about wanting to “rule with respect, not fear”.
It would have been cool to see the character start the show as a true baddie, maybe even hell bent on revenge and power after his embarrassing defeat at the Sarlacc pit and then slowly see the light and error of his ways. Redemption. Y’know, an actual character arc. Even the Mando has gotten softer over the first two seasons, and that arc makes perfect sense. Instead, so far, we have a show that not only has the same tone as the Mandalorian, Boba Fett’s characterization is basically an older, slower, less badass version of the Mandalorian character.
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I agree with Adami that Boba's motivations aren't currently clear, but I don't agree that there's any particular need to know it from early on. There can be some interesting story-telling from not knowing until later on what someone's real motivation/objective is, as long as it's done well (but that applies to when we do know it from early on as well). So I'm content for now, but it does depend on the rest of the season.
I agree with everyone that the chase scene was not good. It was far too long and drawn out for how unimportant it was. To be honest I just tuned out and did something else until something interesting happened.
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We have to remember that the "current time" scenes take place 5 years after we last saw Mr. Fett being the most feared bounty hunter in the galaxy. I think the flashback scenes are trying to show us why he's no longer the man he used to be. Multiple near death experiences and the loss of close friends can change a person. So I don't really have a problem with him wanting to be a more reasonable ruler of Mos Espa rather than a cut-throat gangster. Now, I don't think the show has done a great job so far of explaining things, but we're only halfway through. I'll keep watching and hope the end make it worth the slow start.
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Oh I'll definitely keep watching, never turn down new material, but man that chase seen jumped a few sharks.
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Funny how almost everyone is chastising that scooter chase, that's exactly the scene that turned my wife off from the show and she refuses to watch any more episodes now. I'm going to be patient and watch the rest but it's been a weird start.
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Oh I'll definitely keep watching, never turn down new material, but man that chase seen jumped a few sharks.
Same. I was more just shocked that we got 'that' from Filoni and Favreau. They've been pretty good at at least providing some intense action and not including that type of 'cheese factor'. That was bad.
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Episode 3 was the weakest for me. The chase scene was laughable, and Boba and his pet Rancor almost turned my stomach.
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The chase scene was silly, but I just assumed it was because they weren't chasing the mayor; they were chasing his assistant. Lower stakes, certainly not life-or-death and not worth ripping up the streets of Mos Espa. What was dumb was that even though the chase was at like 10 mph, they still wiped out countless vegatable stands and stuff, and not a single person came running outside to yell at them or even see what the hell was going on.
The biker chick was cute, though.
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I'll keep on watching just for the sake of it, but the show has me unimpressed.
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Only one episode in but I love how this feels and looks just as good as Mando. Hail Jon Favreau
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I think the flashback scenes are the most interesting, but they also feel a lot like they could be episodes of The Mandalorian. I feel like they made a very rushed effort to explain the political factions on Los Endos* in the third episode, and I still don’t understand who is who or why anyone cares that Boba Fett is hanging out in Jabba’s palace. Why are they paying him tribute? It’s him and the lady from Shield and no army. It’s just a really weird awkward show so far. The teenage cyberpunk gang was pretty out of place on Tatooine, no? Also, the catfish looking people are literally named Pike? Whaaaat?
*don’t remember the real name
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Chase scene was cheezwhiz
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I remember during the chase scene actually saying "I wonder who directed this episode, cause they don't seem to understand action" and then I saw who the director was and became quite puzzled.
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Yeah, I think we all expected better from Robert Rodriguez.
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During the chasing, my stepson said “I keep waiting for them to crash into a fruit stand.”
Then when that exact thing happened at the end we all laughed.
Some aspects of this I’m really enjoying…but it’s getting a bit too predictable.
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The biker chick was cute, though.
Yeah, she's also on the show "Yellowjackets", Which IMO is a pretty good show.
The chase was lame, but I loved the retro sparkle paint jobs on the vehicles. Reminds me of being a kid in the 70s.
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The biker chick was cute, though.
Yeah, she's also on the show "Yellowjackets", Which IMO is a pretty good show.
The chase was lame, but I loved the retro sparkle paint jobs on the vehicles. Reminds me of being a kid in the 70s.
Their speeder vespas were seemingly based on the colorful motor scooters used by Mod subculture folks from the late '50s/'60s London. Now, "Mod" as the subculture term, was based on the term modernists, but in this context, it's funny to call these Mos Espa kids Mods because they've modified their bodies to include cybernetic implants and modifications to their bodies.
-Marc.
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I remember during the chase scene actually saying "I wonder who directed this episode, cause they don't seem to understand action" and then I saw who the director was and became quite puzzled.
Yeah, I think we all expected better from Robert Rodriguez.
Rodriguez has also directed the Spy Kids franchise which he credits for making him bank, so I'm guessing that's what he was going for with that chase.
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I remember during the chase scene actually saying "I wonder who directed this episode, cause they don't seem to understand action" and then I saw who the director was and became quite puzzled.
Yeah, I think we all expected better from Robert Rodriguez.
Rodriguez has also directed the Spy Kids franchise which he credits for making him bank, so I'm guessing that's what he was going for with that chase.
I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt that he intended the chase to be cheesy. Now, I don't think the scene really worked all that well, but I don't see them intending that scene to be an intense, thrilling chase. It was some goofy hipster kids chasing a low level politician. They were clearly going for cheesy and cliché.
I personally would have preferred if the scene was set up as the ridiculous chase that it was, but Boba dropped in on him 5 seconds in and stopped the whole thing in a "really... you're going to try and run on Bob Fett? Do you even know who I am?" bad-ass way rather than letting it play out as long as it did.
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Since I don't have streaming at home, just my cell phone service for internet, I cant watch this series and I don't mind spoilers. After reading this thread, I hope I can find a way to see all these episodes at some point. I'm stoked to hear that Trejo shows up with a freakin pet Rancor! So this means that Boba Fett took over Jabbas palace and will now have a new Rancor to dwell in the pit below. It makes me wonder how they carted the old dead Rancor out of there after Luke defeated it, lol!
I don't see Boba fett being as merciless as Jabba, so the new Rancor might have to be a vegan?? I'm sure there will end up being a dark twist and the Rancor will end up going on some sort of rampage.. :corn
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I really hated the way that Boba's new biker gang has day-glo bikes that look sparkly and new.
NOTHING should look sparkly and new in Star Wars, especially on Tatooine. That goes against the entire established aesthetic.
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I really hated the way that Boba's new biker gang has day-glo bikes that look sparkly and new.
NOTHING should look sparkly and new in Star Wars, especially on Tatooine. That goes against the entire established aesthetic.
Good lord so much this. God that shit was fucking annoying. I mean, how did a bunch of pastel Vespas with their multiple mirrors a la Quadrophenia end up in a galaxy far, far away.
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I really hated the way that Boba's new biker gang has day-glo bikes that look sparkly and new.
NOTHING should look sparkly and new in Star Wars, especially on Tatooine. That goes against the entire established aesthetic.
Good lord so much this. God that shit was fucking annoying. I mean, how did a bunch of pastel Vespas with their multiple mirrors a la Quadrophenia end up in a galaxy far, far away.
These kids apparently invented color and designer fashion. Also, they apparently were doing alright for themselves as just a gang of thieves, but for some reason when Boba Fett offered them a “job” they all jumped at it. Really weird scene that was.
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I've been referring to them as the Mod Squad, not only for their Mod subculture inspiration (like the speeders), but also because they like to modify their bodies with cybernetic implants.
-Marc.
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I've been referring to them as the Mod Squad, not only for their Mod subculture inspiration (like the speeders), but also because they like to modify their bodies with cybernetic implants.
-Marc.
Wanna-Borgs
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Well, Episode 4 confirms a few things for me:
-The time that Boba spent with the Tuskens was, in fact, years, which I feel could've been shown a bit more, but I guess with only 3 episodes of flashbacks, that couldn't have been easy to do.
-We see exactly how Boba found Fennec and what they did after their first meeting, which is cool to see and finally connect it to the Mandalorian season 1.
-We know exactly how Boba Fett got his ship back, which was really cool, even if that scene in the kitchen was a bit silly (though pretty Star Wars-ish).
-Wookiees can still rip arms off, which is what I've been wanting to see from Krrsantan ever since he was shown two episodes ago.
-Fennec calls the street gang "The Mods", which is hilarious for the double entendre.
Not an awful episode, but I can see how this one might bore some folks. Now that we've crossed the mid-way point of the series, hopefully this means we're climbing up to the climax of the series from here on out. I think we're also done with the flashbacks as well, so we may be entirely in "the present" story line from here on out.
-Marc.
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Based on the musical stinger at the end, we should be getting a Mando cameo soon.
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Story-wise that was a pretty good episode. I too could do without the kid fight in the kitchen, I think tonally it messes up the episode but on its own it's fine. I think that episode also had a lot of plot stuffed in it. But overall a lot more enjoyable than the previous episode, at least the flashbacks are done.
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Definite improvement over the last episode, much more focused and more true to what I'd expect out of this show. Also appreciate anything Fennec Shand heavy. At least we have some direction now, though I expect a few twist before this is over for sure.
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People have been asking why he would want to be a crime boss. I thought he explained it pretty well, and it made sense in context. He's tired of working solo, for idiots. The meeting with the other bosses seemed to be based on the scene from The Godfather where Don Vito meets with the other bosses, complete with the one guy who clearly has some issues with the plan, pretends to agree, but obviously is going to try some shit later.
When he let Krrsantan go last episode, Mrs. Orbert and I both figured he'd suddenly appear a few episodes from now to save the day. That would be the cliché. I'm glad they side-stepped that and just had Boba hire him. The guy needs a job now, although I did find it amusing that he was bored so he decided to get drunk and bust up some Transdoshans, rip a few arms off, etc. Just another night at the club.
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People have been asking why he would want to be a crime boss. I thought he explained it pretty well, and it made sense in context. He's tired of working solo, for idiots. The meeting with the other bosses seemed to be based on the scene from The Godfather where Don Vito meets with the other bosses, complete with the one guy who clearly has some issues with the plan, pretends to agree, but obviously is going to try some shit later.
When he let Krrsantan go last episode, Mrs. Orbert and I both figured he'd suddenly appear a few episodes from now to save the day. That would be the cliché. I'm glad they side-stepped that and just had Boba hire him. The guy needs a job now, although I did find it amusing that he was bored so he decided to get drunk and bust up some Transdoshans, rip a few arms off, etc. Just another night at the club.
To be fair, the Trandoshans have dealt with Wookiee pelts (one was offered to Boba as tribute in episode 1), so maybe Krrsantan wasn't happy with that.
-Marc.
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Oh yeah, I didn't have any problem with it. The Trandoshans seem to be among the less-liked species on Tatooine, so Krrsantan messing with them fell under the "eh, those guys are dicks anyway" category. I didn't catch that that was a Wookiee pelt during the tribute scene, but I can certainly see Krrsantan not being cool with that. He wasn't there, obviously, but it would be known that those guys hunt Wookiees.
When that one smashed a glass over the back of his head and he just stopped for a second, I figured he'd just get thrown through a wall or something. When BK ripped his arm off (after Garsa tried unsuccessfully to defuse the situation) I thought "Oh yeah, they do that. Cool. Always wanted to see a Wookiee rip an arm off."
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Oh yeah, I didn't have any problem with it. The Trandoshans seem to be among the less-liked species on Tatooine, so Krrsantan messing with them fell under the "eh, those guys are dicks anyway" category. I didn't catch that that was a Wookiee pelt during the tribute scene, but I can certainly see Krrsantan not being cool with that. He wasn't there, obviously, but it would be known that those guys hunt Wookiees.
When that one smashed a glass over the back of his head and he just stopped for a second, I figured he'd just get thrown through a wall or something. When BK ripped his arm off (after Garsa tried unsuccessfully to defuse the situation) I thought "Oh yeah, they do that. Cool. Always wanted to see a Wookiee rip an arm off."
You should watch Solo: A Star Wars Story then. :lol
-Marc.
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I did see Solo once, and thought it was okay, but I don't remember an arm-ripping scene. It makes sense that there was one in a movie whose sole purpose seemed to be to show us every single thing Han mentioned in the original trilogy.
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This episode definitely moved in the right direction.
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Mostly good episode but highlighted the clashing tones. The Bantha pet dog or whatever plus the kitchen fight, straight out of a 90's kid's film just clashes with the more serious nature of a cold bounty hunter building an underground crime family.
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Based on the musical stinger at the end, we should be getting a Mando cameo soon.
I caught that as well. Seemed like foreshadowing.
All of the explanation made sense to me. I know people are knocking it that he's not a bad dude, but I found his reasoning completely logical.
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Cracked has a pretty good article about The Book of Boba Fett and why its story is so underwhelming. I like the show so far, but it is a bit slow and is I agree with a lot of what Cracked has to say about it.
The Book Of Boba Fett's Biggest Problem Is The Mandalorian (https://www.cracked.com/article_32440_the-book-of-boba-fetts-biggest-problem-is-the-mandalorian.html)
I confess to reading Cracked more often than I should. Once you get past their ridiculously juvenile way of presenting things (which are thankfully rather toned down here), they make some good points.
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So, did Boba just forget that he made it out of the Sarlac with his armor and that it was the Jawas who took it? That was a weird scene.
I like how the bantha is just a human mouth underneath a mop of hair.
The story continues to be underwhelming, but maybe Mando will inject some excitement into the series.
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So, did Boba just forget that he made it out of the Sarlac with his armor and that it was the Jawas who took it? That was a weird scene.
That's what I was thinking.
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Being slowing eaten alive might effect his memory.
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Being slowing eaten alive might effect his memory.
Plus, he was nearly unconcious when the jawas stole his armour. It wasn't the most creative way to justify the return to the pit but... It' OK. I'm enjoying all this TV stuff.
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Being slowing eaten alive might effect his memory.
Plus, he was nearly unconcious when the jawas stole his armour. It wasn't the most creative way to justify the return to the pit but... It' OK. I'm enjoying all this TV stuff.
They could have had him just make a quick detour and drop the bomb inside, but then we wouldn't get that very predictable action scene. Pretty good CGI though.
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Being slowing eaten alive might effect his memory.
Plus, he was nearly unconcious when the jawas stole his armour. It wasn't the most creative way to justify the return to the pit but... It' OK. I'm enjoying all this TV stuff.
They could have had him just make a quick detour and drop the bomb inside, but then we wouldn't get that very predictable action scene. Pretty good CGI though.
Yeah, I think they could have just written it in as Boba Fett gets his revenge on Sarlac by flying in and blowing it to smithereens like he did the biker gang.
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Being slowing eaten alive might effect his memory.
Plus, he was nearly unconcious when the jawas stole his armour. It wasn't the most creative way to justify the return to the pit but... It' OK. I'm enjoying all this TV stuff.
They could have had him just make a quick detour and drop the bomb inside, but then we wouldn't get that very predictable action scene. Pretty good CGI though.
Yeah, I think they could have just written it in as Boba Fett gets his revenge on Sarlac by flying in and blowing it to smithereens like he did the biker gang.
The sarlacc thing wasn't personal. It was just an animal.
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Being slowing eaten alive might effect his memory.
Plus, he was nearly unconcious when the jawas stole his armour. It wasn't the most creative way to justify the return to the pit but... It' OK. I'm enjoying all this TV stuff.
They could have had him just make a quick detour and drop the bomb inside, but then we wouldn't get that very predictable action scene. Pretty good CGI though.
Yeah, I think they could have just written it in as Boba Fett gets his revenge on Sarlac by flying in and blowing it to smithereens like he did the biker gang.
The sarlacc thing wasn't personal. It was just an animal.
Very reliable sources say the sarlacc made a deal with Han.
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Someone made them go back and fill in the blanks episode, and the reason why many of us appreciated it more since it's more story than CGI action. Rick James cameo was another obvious, "we need more diversity" segment and not well played. At least it's an improvement.
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Someone made them go back and fill in the blanks episode, and the reason why many of us appreciated it more since it's more story than CGI action. Rick James cameo was another obvious, "we need more diversity" segment and not well played. At least it's an improvement.
Sure, when a group of friends in a TV show has one of every ethnicity, its hard not to immediately think of an agenda, especially when Bruce Willis in Disney's The Kid made that point, but the Mod guy gave you that impression?
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Rick James cameo was another obvious, "we need more diversity" segment and not well played. At least it's an improvement.
That was actually famed bass player Thundercat.
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Rick James cameo was another obvious, "we need more diversity" segment and not well played. At least it's an improvement.
Are we really at the point where a non-white cast member is perceived as a forced "more diversity" push?
Star Wars is one of the most white franchises I've ever seen. A few non-white people ain't gonna make it crumble.
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Rick James cameo was another obvious, "we need more diversity" segment and not well played. At least it's an improvement.
Are we really at the point where a non-white cast member is perceived as a forced "more diversity" push?
Star Wars is one of the most white franchises I've ever seen. A few non-white people ain't gonna make it crumble.
That too.
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Great to see Mando again. Hopefully they also recruit Raylan Givens, I mean Cobb Vanth as well.
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So this was basically Episode 0 for The Mandalorian Season 3, right?
I can see this being a HUGE factor in showcasing the difference in TBOBF and TM, even in that this episode was directed by Bryce Dallas Howard, who directed a couple episodes of The Mandalorian, it very much felt like an episode of that show and not an episode of TBOBF.
What can I say, I *loved* this episode. Great to see Din again, and Peli Motto as well. Don't think I ever needed to know what dating a Jawa would be like though... :lol
Lots of great cameos and callbacks in this episode, and props to the one-take near the beginning of the episode that wasn't even an action scene, but really allowed the audience to focus in on Din after the action. Good stuff all around! It'll be interesting to see how Din will fit in with the world of Boba Fett, both plot-wise and tonally.
-Marc.
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Fantastic episode and doesn't even fit in with the rest of the show. I want more of this.
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Wow... That was fun. That really made me realize how boring the first 4 episodes were and how little I care about what's been going on with Boba Fett. I enjoyed watching Mando walk around more than I enjoyed most of the first 4 episodes. I hope episode 6 can meld the best of both into one kick-ass finale.
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Wow... That was fun. That really made me realize how boring the first 4 episodes were and how little I care about what's been going on with Boba Fett. I enjoyed watching Mando walk around more than I enjoyed most of the first 4 episodes. I hope episode 6 can meld the best of both into one kick-ass finale.
I hope it can do it for the NEXT TWO episodes, and not just the finale. Hard to believe there's only two more episodes of this and no date for Mandalorian S3 yet. I'm hoping for this year but given the amount of other SW live action content coming, I could see them waiting til 2023 for the third season.
-Marc.
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omg if he made a little beskar chain mail coat for Grogu I will literally die from the cuteness.
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Wow... That was fun. That really made me realize how boring the first 4 episodes were and how little I care about what's been going on with Boba Fett. I enjoyed watching Mando walk around more than I enjoyed most of the first 4 episodes. I hope episode 6 can meld the best of both into one kick-ass finale.
I hope it can do it for the NEXT TWO episodes, and not just the finale. Hard to believe there's only two more episodes of this and no date for Mandalorian S3 yet. I'm hoping for this year but given the amount of other SW live action content coming, I could see them waiting til 2023 for the third season.
-Marc.
It is 2 more episodes! I was thinking it is only one more. I hope we'll get a date for Mando Season 3 at the end of this series. I think we'll get Obi Wan starting on May 4th. The question is whether Andor comes before season 3.
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So this was basically Episode 0 for The Mandalorian Season 3, right?
Funny, while watching it I was thinking they messed up and accidentally put the 1st episode of Mando S03 where Boba should be. Talk about a setup episode.
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So this was basically Episode 0 for The Mandalorian Season 3, right?
Funny, while watching it I was thinking they messed up and accidentally put the 1st episode of Mando S03 where Boba should be. Talk about a setup episode.
They set up Mando being in the series in episode 4, but I wasn't expecting a full episode of Mando without any Boba Fett!
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I guess I meant more of a setup episode for Mando S03 and a bit of Boba. I did note the Mando music in the last episode so I expected him, but not the whole thing as well.
My guess is most of this episode will not pay off until the next Mando season.
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Wow... That was fun. That really made me realize how boring the first 4 episodes were and how little I care about what's been going on with Boba Fett. I enjoyed watching Mando walk around more than I enjoyed most of the first 4 episodes. I hope episode 6 can meld the best of both into one kick-ass finale.
I hope it can do it for the NEXT TWO episodes, and not just the finale. Hard to believe there's only two more episodes of this and no date for Mandalorian S3 yet. I'm hoping for this year but given the amount of other SW live action content coming, I could see them waiting til 2023 for the third season.
-Marc.
It is 2 more episodes! I was thinking it is only one more. I hope we'll get a date for Mando Season 3 at the end of this series. I think we'll get Obi Wan starting on May 4th. The question is whether Andor comes before season 3.
Both Obi-Wan and Andor wrapped filming last October, but I'm willing to bet Obi-Wan comes in May, especially since May the 4th is on a Wednesday, which has been their day to premier new SW content on Disney+. Then I think Andor will probably come in late July/August, and Mando in November/Decemver, which is where previous seasons have started around.
They'll be spacing these 3 between some MCU shows as well (Moon Knight through late March/April, Ms. Marvel likely in July, and She-Hulk in September).
-Marc.
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omg if he made a little beskar chain mail coat for Grogu I will literally die from the cuteness.
That's what it looked like she was making. We got a quick shot of some links.
Ditto what pretty much everyone is saying. This episode made me realize how much more I care about Din Djarin than Boba Fett. I kinda figured we'd follow Mando for like 10 minutes, then his path crosses Boba Fett's (or Fennec recruits him, etc) and the rest of the episode is the two Mandalorians kicking some ass together, maybe with some Wookiee help. Instead, we got Mando for the whole episode and no Boba Fett and I was fine with that, too.
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Odd that my favorite Boba Fett episode was a Mandolorian episode.
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omg if he made a little beskar chain mail coat for Grogu I will literally die from the cuteness.
That's what it looked like she was making. We got a quick shot of some links.
I definitely saw links. Omg omg... Well probably be waiting till Mando s3 to see his little body in chain mail...
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I dunno.... Mando said he had to go visit his little friend before he helped Boba. Maybe we'll see Grogu in the next episode?
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Wow... That was fun. That really made me realize how boring the first 4 episodes were and how little I care about what's been going on with Boba Fett. I enjoyed watching Mando walk around more than I enjoyed most of the first 4 episodes. I hope episode 6 can meld the best of both into one kick-ass finale.
I hope it can do it for the NEXT TWO episodes, and not just the finale. Hard to believe there's only two more episodes of this and no date for Mandalorian S3 yet. I'm hoping for this year but given the amount of other SW live action content coming, I could see them waiting til 2023 for the third season.
-Marc.
It is 2 more episodes! I was thinking it is only one more. I hope we'll get a date for Mando Season 3 at the end of this series. I think we'll get Obi Wan starting on May 4th. The question is whether Andor comes before season 3.
Both Obi-Wan and Andor wrapped filming last October, but I'm willing to bet Obi-Wan comes in May, especially since May the 4th is on a Wednesday, which has been their day to premier new SW content on Disney+. Then I think Andor will probably come in late July/August, and Mando in November/Decemver, which is where previous seasons have started around.
They'll be spacing these 3 between some MCU shows as well (Moon Knight through late March/April, Ms. Marvel likely in July, and She-Hulk in September).
-Marc.
I think you're probably pretty close on that timing. I figure as well that between Marvel and Star Wars shows there will be little or no overlap. I hate having to wait until the end of the year for Season 3, but with likely two new Star Wars shows in between I guess I'll get my fix.
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First 1/2 was great. Second 1/2 could've been a 60-second montage, or better yet, just start with a completed ship for Din. I didn't care for the build-a-ship / bonding storyline.
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'Fighting the Darksaber' was a new introduction to it's qualities that hadn't been mentioned before. There have been four characters I can recall that have wielded it and none of them ever hinted at it getting 'heavier'....so, I'm guessing that's just something they added to spice up that lore.
I guess what we've got out of that episode was that Mando will return in the last handful of minutes in the finale to help Boba defeat the Pyke's.....and then there will be an episode in Mando S3 of him delivering the chain mail to Grogu.
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I guess what we've got out of that episode was that Mando will return in the last handful of minutes in the finale to help Boba defeat the Pyke's.....and then there will be an episode in Mando S3 of him delivering the chain mail to Grogu.
Yep, that's exactly what I was getting at in my post. Just like they connected Boba finding Fennec after the events from The Mandalorian, they will do pretty much what you said. Mando will return from his trip but we won't get the reveal until his next season.
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I'm gonna be bold here and predict a Mace Windu appareance in the season finale.
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That's actually a really good idea for a retcon if they're keeping the sequel trilogy canon, having Mando give Grogu chainmail armor to explain his survival in future projects. I doubt Kylo Ren would check if anyone is still alive after his temper tantrum.
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Funny that the best episode of Boba Fett doesn't feature Boba Fett at all.
Probably not a good strategy on Lucasfilm's part.
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Funny that the best episode of Boba Fett doesn't feature Boba Fett at all.
Probably not a good strategy on Lucasfilm's part.
RIIIIIIGHTT??!!
This Mandalorian “helmet rule” is so stupid.
How do you wash your hair?
How do you cut your hair?
How do you shave?
How do you brush your teeth?
How do you wear glasses?
How do you play the harmonica?
How do you kiss the bride?
How do you do below-the-belt stuff?
How do you repair your helmet?
I’ve never even seen him take off his damn gloves to eat or do delicate repairs.
Book of Boba is soooooooo boring. He’s sooooooo boring. Fennic Shand is soooooooo boring. There’s a total of none personality combined.
The best part so far has been the fight at the start of the last episode and it wasn’t even Boba.
Don’t even get me started on Din’s new ship. How do you be a bounty hunter if you can’t transport your bounty? It’s friggin’ cool, though.
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Mandolorians take off their helmet.
Just not around other people.
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Someone referred to grogu's hopeful chain mail vest as space mithril :lol
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Mandolorians take off their helmet.
Just not around other people.
Hmmmm... cuz The Armourer says this:
1) "Din Djarin, have you ever removed your helmet?"
2) "Has it ever been removed by others?"
So it seems it always has to be on, unless I'm missing some info, but either way it's still a stupider-than-stupid rule.
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I think the implications were.....implied.
They just can't show other people their face or whatever. Nothing too complicated, dumb or not.
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I think the implications were.....implied.
They just can't show other people their face or whatever. Nothing too complicated, dumb or not.
This is the way
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Funny that the best episode of Boba Fett doesn't feature Boba Fett at all.
Probably not a good strategy on Lucasfilm's part.
Just caught the latest episode and was thinking the same. This episode just served to highlight the differences between the two shows.
I think they should can TBOBF after this season and just have Boba as the occasional recurring character in future Mandalorian seasons.
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That's actually a really good idea for a retcon if they're keeping the sequel trilogy canon, having Mando give Grogu chainmail armor to explain his survival in future projects. I doubt Kylo Ren would check if anyone is still alive after his temper tantrum.
Especially since when Grogu would get hit with a strike from a light saber or other weapon he'd be like a golf ball or football being punted. Just launched for some distance out of sight :lol
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That's actually a really good idea for a retcon if they're keeping the sequel trilogy canon, having Mando give Grogu chainmail armor to explain his survival in future projects. I doubt Kylo Ren would check if anyone is still alive after his temper tantrum.
Especially since when Grogu would get hit with a strike from a light saber or other weapon he'd be like a golf ball or football being punted. Just launched for some distance out of sight :lol
That's a fucking glorious visual.
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Agree with pretty much what already has been said.
The Book of Boba Fett is good and entertaining for total Star Wars geeks like myself, but the average fan like my wife have not enjoyed it until this weeks episode. I'm sure this is a one and done.
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I think it was always intended to be a segue between Mando S2 and Mando S3. D+ knows where the money is.
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This was a fun episode this week for sure. I thought the curved space station thing was a really cool idea. Kind of random to see the first ever commercial space flight in Star Wars history!*
*no, I don’t care if this has happened in some book or cartoon before. ;-)
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This was a fun episode this week for sure. I thought the curved space station thing was a really cool idea.
Seemed like they took it straight from Niven's Ringworld. Look at the pic here if you are not familiar (not going to bother copying the image into my imgur account): https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/amazon-ringworld-moves-forward-game-of-thrones-director/
The main "world" where people live is a giant ring that orbits the sun. They live on the inside facing the sun, and the spinning of the ring is what produced gravity. Day/night effect is produce by a ring of rectangles on a closer orbit to the sun.
EDIT: Looks like at least one writer picked up on it, and does a pretty good job of explaining it: https://www.polygon.com/22903093/book-of-boba-fett-halo-ringworld-space-station
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Ringworld was my first thought as well.
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Same here. We is all smart.
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AKA we is all nerds.
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Had never heard of Ringworld or that concept before tonight, but I spent some time reading up on it, and it sounds pretty darn cool (if likely impossible/impractical to build).
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Halo and Elysium are the two things I thought of when watching that episode. The set design on this episode outside of Tattoine was fantastic.
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Had never heard of Ringworld or that concept before tonight, but I spent some time reading up on it, and it sounds pretty darn cool (if likely impossible/impractical to build).
I loved the original novel and all of the spinoffs and sequels when I was younger (college age). Not sure how they would hold up if I read them now, but I really liked them at the time. Niven did two things really well in his books:
First and most importantly, he told good stories. You can have the most interesting theoretical concept in the world, and it will fall flat for most readers if the story isn't good.
Second, he would come up with really interesting ideas, like the ringworld itself, and explain the theoretical science behind it in a way that made it sound plausible, but was also simple enough to grasp.
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Some of these fans in the Baby Yoda FB groups are way too obsessed with this thing, but we did end up with what Grogu would look like in his Space Mithril coat...
(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/272948434_10223512863544022_8553027525757317742_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=hjhxnekzR0kAX-c5kQ0&_nc_oc=AQmikWpTtmBtwmjxEDg8qW_mj_zI0Z7Z1nCHxzy14msx4hPs14hFkOTEVq1D7pgMAoSQC7hBYPRz26-i95vk5WKs&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=00_AT_9rZjoEy0kbiX8ZFhfZ9XvIwVjZpUCTLWjdruNNvcQMw&oe=61FE7070)
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What a great episode! At least Boba showed up for a few seconds in this one. :lol
I was happy to see Cobb Vanth again. I suspected he would show up. Wasn't expecting Ahsoka though. And OMG... Cad Bane!!!
Luke's CGI face was better in this than the last time we saw him, but it was still a little off. I suspect we're going to see plenty more of Luke in the Mandoverse shows. I could see him teaming up with Ahsoka in her show.
What will Grogu chose? I'm not sure what's better for Star Wars' future. Cute little guy hanging with Din in The Mandalorian, or setting him up as a kick-ass Jedi in the future. Perhaps teaming up with Rey in a future series set decades after the sequel trilogy? I honestly think if they're going to make him a viable character to focus on, they need to have him age quickly. Like he unlocks knowledge or something that had been repressed by his trauma. He definitely took some pretty big steps in this episode.
I'm expecting an epic finale next week. Hopefully Boba will be worthy of his own show in the end. Right now it feels like the set-up from episodes 1-4 could have been greatly condensed to get us to this point. As of now, it seems like this all could have been a side plot of The Mandalorian Season 3 instead of it's own series. We'll see how it ends up.
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Finally watched the available episodes and pretty disappointed in the series. Saw a lot of things mentioned that I agree with while scrolling through.
That chase scene appeared SLOW, not sure how thats possible to even do. But I DO enjoy MODS on Mod Bikes. The mirrors like Quadrophenia had me laughing.
There is a distinct "Disney" touch that I get now and then that I don't think I've felt before on other series/movies.
The Mando episode was by far the best, which is saying something.
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I just can't with Grogu's one inch vertical jump. :D
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I just can't with Grogu's one inch vertical jump. :D
Hey, at least he learned how to use the force...well, after the training remote started firing at him, but still!
Wow, Star Wars fans of all walks will surely love this episode. Admittedly, I am not as familiar with the animated stuff (Clone Wars/Rebels) so I don't have huge attachments to characters like Ahsoka and Cad Bane, but seeing them in live action is a treat. Dave Filoni further solidifies the importance of those shows by continuing to introduce animated characters into live action and now I need to find time to start watching al those episodes of animated series!
Also, another Order 66 flashback is sure to be traumatic for anyone, but my big question is how the HECK did Luke get Yoda's lightsaber? The same way that Maz Kanata got Luke's lightsaber after it disappeared in Cloud City? SO MANY QUESTIONS! And I have a feeling that Grogu will chose the armor, but I wouldn't mind being proven wrong. I think for Din Djarin to focus on the restoration of Mandalore, he might have to go it alone without Grogu, but it would also be neat to see Grogu grow up to become a tiny Mandalorian as well, so who knows. Maybe a Force Ghost Yoda will appear at Luke's school and convince Grogu (not) to become a Jedi.
I'm willing to bet Ahsoka's appearance lined up well with the shooting of her own show. I honestly couldn't see much reason for her to be there other than to have a wink-and-nod to Luke/Anakin. From what I'm aware of, this is their first time ever meeting, right? So I can imagine what that conversation might be like given her history with Anakin.
After doing some skimming of Cad Bane's wookieepedia article, I see that he had Boba Fett as an apprentice, so it'll be interesting to see how they interact next episode, if they do. While Boba Fett has been largely absent from the past two episodes, it seems like we're pulling in everyone from his past, from Krrsantan and Din joining his forces, to Cad Bane showing up, so it might be an interesting "family reunion" of sorts.
-Marc.
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how the HECK did Luke get Yoda's lightsaber?
Did he take it from Yoda's hut after he died? Or did Yoda lose his lightsaber before he went into hiding? I forget what exactly happened during that battle with Palpy in Ep. 3.
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how the HECK did Luke get Yoda's lightsaber?
Did he take it from Yoda's hut after he died? Or did Yoda lose his lightsaber before he went into hiding? I forget what exactly happened during that battle with Palpy in Ep. 3.
It's been awhile since I've seen Episode III, but I'm pretty sure he lost it in the Senate room during his battle with Palpatine.
-Marc.
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Hopefully Raylan is still alive.
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how the HECK did Luke get Yoda's lightsaber?
Did he take it from Yoda's hut after he died? Or did Yoda lose his lightsaber before he went into hiding? I forget what exactly happened during that battle with Palpy in Ep. 3.
It's been awhile since I've seen Episode III, but I'm pretty sure he lost it in the Senate room during his battle with Palpatine.
-Marc.
Just did a quick search and it said he kept it in a box in his hut on Dagobah.
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Hopefully Raylan is still alive.
I'd think so, it looked like they were starting to give him medical attention.
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Fantastic episode! Love that Cad Bane is now live action as well. Really great character! The de-aging looked 10x better in this episode and really worked well. Seems like this show is really just serving as a set up for the other shows but it makes sense being that it’s been mentioned they will all tie into one another.
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So another great episode. Did Boba have any lines?
I think calling this The Book of Boba Fett is becoming misleading.
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Not much to add, really. Another episode which was more The Mandolorian than TBoBF, which is good because I find it more interesting and entertaining, but bad because it means another chapter of Boba Fett's story down, and still nothing's really happening. The stories are tied up a bit together now, I get it, but it feels weird how they've done it. Like if they were going to combine the shows and storylines like this, it could've been better balanced.
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They honestly should just have a singular "Star Wars EU" show that focuses on individual story lines that weave in and out of each other rather than naming them "The Mandalorian" or "The Book Of Boba Fett", especially we are going to keep seeing characters pop up between them all. I honestly would not be surprised if Din, Boba, Luke, or Cad Bane pop up in something like Ahsoka's show.
I also won't be surprised if there's some sort of connective tissue between Andor and the Obi-Wan show since they'll take place in a similar time frame (before the destruction of Alderaan). Folks like Filoni and Favreau are doing for Star Wars what Feige and the folks at Marvel have been doing with the MCU for well over a decade now, and are creating a fuller universe. It almost seems unfair to Boba Fett to have his name on this show and a third of its six episodes doesn't even feature him. If The Mandalorian and TBOBF were just "Star Wars - The Expanded Universe Show", maybe it wouldn't feel as weird when we get full episodes of a show focusing on Din Djarin after four episodes focusing on Boba Fett. If these were films in a series, we would have had 4 films on Din already, 1 on Boba, and now one that brings them all together (episodes 5-7 of TBOBF). But that's just being nitpicky. I've been enjoying it all just the same, regardless of whatever title these episodes fall under. It's like how Captain America: Civil War felt like Avengers 2.5 - yes, we get all of these cool cameos and check in on what other characters are doing, but in the end, there's still a story focusing on the title character. Let's just hope there's a big pay off in next week's finale!
-Marc.
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Dave Filoni is the man! Was really not expecting more of the Mando in this episode and then a whole slew of characters drop in. I'm optimistic the finale should now be at least entertaining.
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Am I the only one who was a bit taken aback by the rendering on Luke Skywalker?
In EVERYTHING else where it’s been used, I could totally tell that CGI was being used. Even when Skywalker showed up at the end of the Mandalorian. But in this episode, I honestly had a very difficult time telling the difference…and I KNEW it was CGI.
They are getting really good at this.
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Am I the only one who was a bit taken aback by the rendering on Luke Skywalker?
In EVERYTHING else where it’s been used, I could totally tell that CGI was being used. Even when Skywalker showed up at the end of the Mandalorian. But in this episode, I honestly had a very difficult time telling the difference…and I KNEW it was CGI.
They are getting really good at this.
I remember reading a while back that Disney employed one of the youtubers that does those deepfakes. He made a comparison video of how he would have done the Luke cameo from Mando season 2 vs what we got and the difference was really telling. I'm sure he had to be involved in some capacity for this episode.
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Am I the only one who was a bit taken aback by the rendering on Luke Skywalker?
In EVERYTHING else where it’s been used, I could totally tell that CGI was being used. Even when Skywalker showed up at the end of the Mandalorian. But in this episode, I honestly had a very difficult time telling the difference…and I KNEW it was CGI.
They are getting really good at this.
I remember reading a while back that Disney employed one of the youtubers that does those deepfakes. He made a comparison video of how he would have done the Luke cameo from Mando season 2 vs what we got and the difference was really telling. I'm sure he had to be involved in some capacity for this episode.
If you can't beat em, hire em.
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Yeah, Luke looked really good. Very natural, a huge step up from his cameo in Mandalorian ch 16.
Speaking of Luke: it was cool seeing him and Grogu, but I think they got a little carried away with the parallels between them and Luke/Yoda. Luke tried to raise his ship, couldn't do it; Yoda raises it up, over, and sets it down on the ground. Grogu raised a frog; Luke raises all the frogs, then drops them all. Grogu in a backpack as Luke runs through the woods, just as Yoda was in the backpack as Luke ran through the woods. Don't try, just do. We get it, the padawan is now the master, with a new padawan of his own. But it was like every scene was a callback to Episode V. Almost none of it was truly original.
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The de-aging looked fantastic ... until he spoke. They still haven't quite fully mastered the lips and facial movements for speech yet (imo). The AI for Hamill's voice is absolutely impeccable though. I thought it was an excellent episode, but again ... can't help be feel I just wanted Mando S3E2. jingle.son mentioned the exact same thing Marc has - just having (all) the series' be "Star Wars", and weave different storylines and characters throughout it. Guess you guys follow the same discussions on the interwebz :D.
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Another entertaining episode of The Mandalorian. The cameo from Boba Fett makes me feel there's a story to tell there, though, perhaps in his own show?
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Another entertaining episode of The Mandalorian. The cameo from Boba Fett makes me feel there's a story to tell there, though, perhaps in his own show?
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Another good episode. Great to see Luke again, and the CGI was definitely much better this time.
Nice to see Dave Filoni continue his "Don't tell me it's JUST a cartoon!" crusade.
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I'm really thinking that show would have been better if it was just season 3 of the Mandalorian. Expand on Din's role (easy enough to add a few bounty hunting side stories) and reduce Boba'a to get rid of the most boring parts. I think it could have been a better show that was. But I'm still enjoying this for what it is.
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The thread title is getting a little out of date.
Also, did someone say that there are only seven episodes? I guess I was assuming there would be eight, as with The Mandalorian.
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The thread title is getting a little out of date.
Also, did someone say that there are only seven episodes? I guess I was assuming there would be eight, as with The Mandalorian.
As far as I have heard, there are only seven episodes, so next week will be the finale. And yeah, the thread title will be a month old soon! Has lonestar just not come back here since episode 3?
-Marc.
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Glad people liked it, but personally, it just felt like an unorganized mess to me. And the entire sequence with Luke and Grogu came across as Luke (and Asoka, to a lesser degree) spouting random Star Wars themed platitudes that don't actually mean anything. It almost felt like the creators suddenly realized they are at episode 6 of a series that isn't going anywhere, and started to panic and just threw in as much fan service as they could without it actually meaning anything important.
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Glad people liked it, but personally, it just felt like an unorganized mess to me. And the entire sequence with Luke and Grogu came across as Luke (and Asoka, to a lesser degree) spouting random Star Wars themed platitudes that don't actually mean anything. It almost felt like the creators suddenly realized they are at episode 6 of a series that isn't going anywhere, and started to panic and just threw in as much fan service as they could without it actually meaning anything important.
I can see your point. BUT...I think the Grogu and Luke scenes were set up for Grogu to have an out as a student and wouldn't be surprised if he chooses to go with the Mandalorian and just wings it as a Jedi-light which would then allow them to include Grogu in S3.
As a side note I was pretty pleased with how Dawson and Filoni are honing Ahsoka's character. They threw in several mannerisms that mimicked the animated show...specifically posture and the way she carries herself and her speech patterns/sound seemed spot on as well.
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The thread title is getting a little out of date.
Also, did someone say that there are only seven episodes? I guess I was assuming there would be eight, as with The Mandalorian.
As far as I have heard, there are only seven episodes, so next week will be the finale. And yeah, the thread title will be a month old soon! Has lonestar just not come back here since episode 3?
-Marc.
Fix'd....my bad...
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Glad people liked it, but personally, it just felt like an unorganized mess to me. And the entire sequence with Luke and Grogu came across as Luke (and Asoka, to a lesser degree) spouting random Star Wars themed platitudes that don't actually mean anything. It almost felt like the creators suddenly realized they are at episode 6 of a series that isn't going anywhere, and started to panic and just threw in as much fan service as they could without it actually meaning anything important.
I can see your point. BUT...I think the Grogu and Luke scenes were set up for Grogu to have an out as a student and wouldn't be surprised if he chooses to go with the Mandalorian and just wings it as a Jedi-light which would then allow them to include Grogu in S3.
No, I completely get why it was there. I have no issue with that. What I take issue with is the execution of it. The dialog was terrible. The pacing was terrible. It's like there was zero attempt at writing other than, "let's distract them with old-school character nostalgia, Grogu doing cute things, and everybody just saying random things that just sound really Star Wars-y."
I hate to make this complaint, because I've railed so hard against it in the past, but: Instead of feeling like I was watching Star Wars, I felt like the Disney Corporation was trying to sell me something hollow and empty that looks and sounds like a pretty, shiny version of Star Wars.
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No, I completely get why it was there. I have no issue with that. What I take issue with is the execution of it. The dialog was terrible. The pacing was terrible. It's like there was zero attempt at writing other than, "let's distract them with old-school character nostalgia, Grogu doing cute things, and everybody just saying random things that just sound really Star Wars-y."
concerning that....do you think the dialog....specifically with Luke....is hindered by and catered to the de-aging/CGI? It seems that while the 'look' has significantly improved the dialog was pretty simple and I can't help but think it's due to the amount of effects needed to pull the look off.
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Not sure. But if that was the issue, I would hope and expect that there would have been decisions along the lines of, "We are limited by the technology, so Luke's dialog really needs to be pretty sparing. So let's make sure it is really tight so he can say meaningful stuff in just a few words." Instead, it was just a mess of gobbledegook. Like I said, it was just meaningless platitudes using Star Wars-y language. For the most part, same with Asoka.
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For the most part, same with Asoka.
Was really hoping for a longer-deeper conversation between the two concerning Anakin. Unless they have something planned like that for her series.....that was a huge miss. But, I can't imagine that Filoni would allow that to be a miss. I'd bet that conversation is something that happens.
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For the most part, same with Asoka.
Was really hoping for a longer-deeper conversation between the two concerning Anakin. Unless they have something planned like that for her series.....that was a huge miss. But, I can't imagine that Filoni would allow that to be a miss. I'd bet that conversation is something that happens.
I think at this point, we can expect to see Luke in the Ahsoka series, at least for one episode. Filoni has to know that fans want it, so I'm sure it'll happen at some point.
-Marc.
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For the most part, same with Asoka.
Was really hoping for a longer-deeper conversation between the two concerning Anakin. Unless they have something planned like that for her series.....that was a huge miss. But, I can't imagine that Filoni would allow that to be a miss. I'd bet that conversation is something that happens.
I think at this point, we can expect to see Luke in the Ahsoka series, at least for one episode. Filoni has to know that fans want it, so I'm sure it'll happen at some point.
-Marc.
Yeah the fans want it but I would also think that it's pretty important to just the overall story and character of Luke. He has this massive resource in Ahsoka who spent years with his Father and could provide him with great insight as to what kind of person he was. It would just make sense to do that for the character as well as the fans.
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The thread title is getting a little out of date.
Also, did someone say that there are only seven episodes? I guess I was assuming there would be eight, as with The Mandalorian.
As far as I have heard, there are only seven episodes, so next week will be the finale. And yeah, the thread title will be a month old soon! Has lonestar just not come back here since episode 3?
-Marc.
Fix'd....my bad...
No problem, I just hope the new title isn't a huge spoiler for anyone who hasn't been keeping up with the show and just happens to browse this subforum and notice it.
For the most part, same with Asoka.
Was really hoping for a longer-deeper conversation between the two concerning Anakin. Unless they have something planned like that for her series.....that was a huge miss. But, I can't imagine that Filoni would allow that to be a miss. I'd bet that conversation is something that happens.
I think at this point, we can expect to see Luke in the Ahsoka series, at least for one episode. Filoni has to know that fans want it, so I'm sure it'll happen at some point.
-Marc.
Yeah the fans want it but I would also think that it's pretty important to just the overall story and character of Luke. He has this massive resource in Ahsoka who spent years with his Father and could provide him with great insight as to what kind of person he was. It would just make sense to do that for the character as well as the fans.
I agree, Luke would need to feel important to the story of Ahsoka and not the other way around unless they were to give Luke his own "Jedi Academy" spin-off at some point.
-Marc.
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Guys... I think everyone is overlooking the biggest problem with this episode.
No more Jennifer Beals. >:(
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That is indeed a bummer. Cobb Vanth I can see surviving, since he was only shot once and was still alive as they were yelling for help. That explosion at Garsa's place looked like a "no survivors" kinda of scenario. But we didn't actually see her die either, so...
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I would laugh if everyone else died except Max Rebo. He was able to survive the crashing/exploding of Jabba's sail barge, so he may have found a way out of Garsa's establishment!
-Marc.
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I would laugh if everyone else died except Max Rebo. He was able to survive the crashing/exploding of Jabba's sail barge, so he may have found a way out of Garsa's establishment!
-Marc.
Well, his species is made of a nearly indestructible living organic polymer, so I wouldn't be surprised.
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Caught up last night and yeah....
this show would be so much better if it just stuck to Boba's story. The last two episodes being basically the Mandalorian really hurt this show IMO. The last episode with Luke had sooo much potential, but it was very cringe to me. Poorly executed. The whole concept of reversing roles with Luke now training Baby Yoda (and using the same phrases from Episode 5) has SO much potential, but it just felt thrown in for the fans. I thought Hamill was TERRIBLE. I thought the forced decision at the end was a bit odd as well. And this was after I was starting to really sink my teeth into Boba's story. They can end the season on a high note and that'll be cool, but this show being exactly like the Mandalorian really hurts it IMO. It's not even that it's bad, it's just literally the same show. Even the early episodes had the same flow and storytelling that the early episodes of the Mandalorian had. Which I guess makes some sense given the same people behind the scenes, but still, they needed to do something to make this show stand on it's own and they just failed IMO. The best scenes were the ones dealing with Boba IMO.
Oh and the half episode of building the new ship was a huge yawn. That could have been a 1 minute montage instead of 20 minutes of listening to the annoying lady yap :lol
The new bad guy is pretty bad ass though, I want to see more of what's going on with him and his people. I guess they are setting up for next season though.
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I agree with a lot of what Bosk said, though not necessarily to such a degree.
The writers DO seem to be focusing more on pleasing fans than writing coherent logical stories. I have no idea why MOST of this episode was happening other than to make sure they can eventually do X Y Z in other shows or at the end of this show. That's not good writing though, that's just lazy writing. As cool as it was to see Luke and R2 and stuff, and it WAS cool, I am not sure why it was there other than to please the fans and set up other stuff.
I disagree with Cram that the Boba is the most captivating part of the show. I think there's a reason people are praising the last 2 episodes and not the first 4. I was mostly enjoying the show but it just didn't feel like it was going anywhere or doing anything. It felt like B sides to a Mando show that weren't good enough for that show. I dunno.
It's a mess a of a show for sure. Though I like the idea mentioned about just making a "Star Wars the Show" and doing whatever they want within it.
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I was mostly enjoying the show but it just didn't feel like it was going anywhere or doing anything.
Like the pipes on Star Trek shows.
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I disagree with Cram that the Boba is the most captivating part of the show. I think there's a reason people are praising the last 2 episodes and not the first 4. I was mostly enjoying the show but it just didn't feel like it was going anywhere or doing anything. It felt like B sides to a Mando show that weren't good enough for that show. I dunno.
Along those lines, let me say this: I found myself wandering in and out of caring for most of the first 4 episodes. But things in Boba's story, for what little we got, finally seemed to be coming to a head toward the end of that, and in the little bits we got in this last episode, including the parts with the Pikes and Cad Bane in "Freetown." That, to me, is interesting. And here's the thing about that. Much like my opinions on the prequel trilogy, I feel like the bones for a really good story are there, but that that really good story was buried under (1) a lot of meandering around issues that simply don't make for a good story at all for one reason or another, and (2) some writing that feels severely underdeveloped (I hate saying "bad writing," but feel free to substitute that if it suits you). I feel like that is exactly what is going on here. Because of those little snippets in this last episode, I am starting to get more interested in Boba's story. But so much time has been wasted on issues 1 and 2 that what could be a really good story is just wasted on the major distractions of all these side issues and...less than good storytelling.
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I disagree with Cram that the Boba is the most captivating part of the show. I think there's a reason people are praising the last 2 episodes and not the first 4.
I should clarify that Boba himself is not entirely captivating but after the 4 episodes, his story seemed to finally be going somewhere that was interesting. Basically similar to what bosk just stated as well.
As for the praise, I think it's fairly obvious people enjoy Mando, Baby Yoda, and all the call backs to the movies that the last two episodes brought. And it's not like I don't enjoy those either, it just didn't seem well done and kind of forced.
I do wonder how this impacts the next season of the Mandalorian though, like what if you didn't watch the Boba show? I know a few friends who all watch Mando but haven't watched Boba. I told them they might want to if they want to watch the next season, but maybe they write this in a way that you don't need to have seen the Boba show?
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Cad Bane in "Freetown."
Which.....this is huge considering the history between Cad Bane and Boba Fett. For those that haven't watched any of the animated stuff they'd never know the history between Bane and Boba and that Bane took in a younger Boba and taught him the ways of a being bounty hunter and mercenary. Or that Finnec Shand has a history with Bane as she spoiled his bounty on Omega in 'The Bad Batch'.
I was pretty stoked to see Cad Bane as he was/is one of the more interesting and well developed characters from the animated shows.
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Cad Bane in "Freetown."
Which.....this is huge considering the history between Cad Bane and Boba Fett. For those that haven't watched any of the animated stuff they'd never know the history between Bane and Boba and that Bane took in a younger Boba and taught him the ways of a being bounty hunter and mercenary. Or that Finnec Shand has a history with Bane as she spoiled his bounty on Omega in 'The Bad Batch'.
I was pretty stoked to see Cad Bane as he was/is one of the more interesting and well developed characters from the animated shows.
My gf was really enjoying the references to the Clone Wars and those characters. I didn't get any of it, but Cad Bane seems like an awesome bad guy.
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As soon as they did the reveal of the dude's face I was like "That is....probably someone important from the animated shows" but had no clue who it was.
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As soon as they did the reveal of the dude's face I was like "That is....probably someone important from the animated shows" but had no clue who it was.
Same lol...way to dramatic a build up for some random schmoe
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So Jennifer Beal is dead and I still don’t know who she is or why people were excited that she was in the show for a few seconds every couple weeks.
Seems like the last two episodes were drawing a parallel between the Mandalorian code and the Jedi code. My guess is Grogu chooses the armor and is spared from getting wiped out with all the other members of Luke’s Jedi school. He’ll train with Ahsoka instead and be part of the new waive of Jedi post-Episode 9.
I agree all the scenes with Luke were ham handed, but I also could not tell if he was CGI or a look alike, so props there.
Is there a less anticipated showdown than the coming showdown between Boba Fett and the dozen people he’s cobbled together to fight the Pike? No idea how they are going to wrap this series half way satisfactorily in one more episode. Maybe Boba Fett and his crew get wiped out, thus ending the Book of Boba Fett. It’s a really weird show without any real character development for Boba Fett or any reason to be interested in him prevailing in whatever is coming next.
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Just saw this article that describes how they did the CGI Luke. His voice was also generated by a computer program based on old Hamil audio clips, which might explain why his dialogue was so awkward.
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a38971109/cgi-luke-skywalker-mandalorian-book-of-boba-fett/
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Where does the Mandalorian take a dump now with that dumb ship of his?
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So Jennifer Beal is dead and I still don’t know who she is or why people were excited that she was in the show for a few seconds every couple weeks.
I'm thinking it was because Jennifer was super hot like 40 years ago, and somehow still looks pretty damed hot now, and that blew a lot of... minds. So we all thought, or at least hoped, that she would be this really cool, badass character. Instead, she was just kinda there, never really did anything, and now she's gone. So you're right; it turns out that caring about her was a waste of time. It's just such a damned shame because here she is still really hot after all this time.
I would let her clean my helmet, though, if you know what I mean.
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Cad Bane in "Freetown."
Which.....this is huge considering the history between Cad Bane and Boba Fett. For those that haven't watched any of the animated stuff they'd never know the history between Bane and Boba and that Bane took in a younger Boba and taught him the ways of a being bounty hunter and mercenary. Or that Finnec Shand has a history with Bane as she spoiled his bounty on Omega in 'The Bad Batch'.
I was pretty stoked to see Cad Bane as he was/is one of the more interesting and well developed characters from the animated shows.
This all the way. Cad Bane is a total badass. Now we just need Thrawn...
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Cad Bane in "Freetown."
Which.....this is huge considering the history between Cad Bane and Boba Fett. For those that haven't watched any of the animated stuff they'd never know the history between Bane and Boba and that Bane took in a younger Boba and taught him the ways of a being bounty hunter and mercenary. Or that Finnec Shand has a history with Bane as she spoiled his bounty on Omega in 'The Bad Batch'.
I was pretty stoked to see Cad Bane as he was/is one of the more interesting and well developed characters from the animated shows.
This all the way. Cad Bane is a total badass. Now we just need Thrawn...
He'll hold off until the Ahsoka show, I'm guessing. I think we'll see a major character cameo in the finale though. Ki'ra perhaps?
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Just saw this article that describes how they did the CGI Luke. His voice was also generated by a computer program based on old Hamil audio clips, which might explain why his dialogue was so awkward.
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a38971109/cgi-luke-skywalker-mandalorian-book-of-boba-fett/
My gf was wondering if he had to talk so slow for the CGI to work best on his face. It was definitely pretty amazing in terms of how it looked so real. Sucked though because it felt like "poor acting" though even though it's more complicated than that.
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The acting of CGI Luke was very ordinary. The line delivery was worse than Hayden Christensen in Attack of the Clones.
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Last episode was MEH.
Why Fennec Shand didn’t do what she did at the end of the episode first, many troubles would have been avoided.
Grogu coming in the wing x, was very meh too, how could he take the ship, convinced R2 to go with him etc, plus, his parts were very silly.
Who is the old man on Boba’s bath?
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I thought the finale was good, but left some loose ends. Probably setting up future events. Curious if this show will get a second season. It was kind of a mess, but entertaining enough.
There were a lot of questionable tactics by Boba's team during the battle. Like why did they keep grouping together and get pinned down in a single location?
I'm not sure how I feel about Grogu rejoining Din. I knew that was the route they would go, but I don't think he really adds a whole lot to the story. It felt like his story arc ended and we could move on, but now he'll be tagging along just to look cute.
Who is the old man on Boba’s bath?
Cobb Vanth
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Geez, don't you hate it when all of these Marvel things just end in a giant CGI battle? Oh wait...this is Star Wars? :lol
It wasn't AWFUL, but yeah, I could feel like a lot of the series was just a way to get to the final episode because they had some cool ideas like, let's see a Rancor battle some Scorpion Droids in the city, or let's have a scene with Boba and Din fighting back-to-back against the Pykes! I feel like there was a lot of set-up to get to these "cool moments" but it all felt a bit mish-mashed together. And yeah, Grogu's inclusion just felt like they wanted to show off what bit of Jedi training he had received.
I'd say the series as a whole is a VERY mixed, bag, and only half of the episodes were any good (2, part of 4, 5 and 6). The finale was OK, but after the first ten minutes, it was just one drawn-out fight with strewn together scenes, which, while entertaining, started to feel a bit TOO drawn-out near the end. At least, they gave us the Boba/Cad show-down, and I guess that's the end of him!
As for Cobb Vanth being in the Bacta Tank and the Mod guy being there, I guess he'll return in the future with some modifications. Might be neat to see him with a cybernetic right arm since he was shot in the shoulder. It might make him a faster gun-draw!
As for Din/Grogu, they definitely left it wide-open as to what they'll do next, but yeah, I had secretly hoped he was going to stay with Luke at least for part of Mandalorian S3, but now that he's back with Din, maybe he'll learn to wield the Dark Saber and become a Jedi/Mandalorian like the original wielder was.
-Marc.
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Another thing that I don’t understand is, Boba couldn’t believe Din was willing to gave his life for the creed, but when asked what was his angle, he said “this is my city, this is my people” I am sure he doesn’t even know one single name of anyone in that town, and suddenly he is willing to die for them? Come on.
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I'll say, given the people involved with writing and producing this series, I'm surprised it was a much of a mess as it was. I enjoyed it despite it's pretty major flaws, but compared to The Mandalorian, it was really sub-par. Given that it's largely the same people involved, I hope this doesn't signal diminishing quality in the Mando-verse going forward.
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Saw a comment on IGN that I think is a good example of the pickle that Star Wars finds itself in:
"We all know [Grogu] was going to return to Mando eventually but I was hoping it wouldn't be before end of Mando season 3 beginning of 4. Would have liked a Luke and Grogu series... Getting tired of retreading the same ground over and over."
This individual is criticizing Star Wars for doing the same thing over and over, which I think is fair, but in the same breath is also hoping for more OT Luke Skywalker. :lol
Because of the rapid advancements in technology these past few years, Star Wars will always have the option of going back to the well and referencing old characters. This often results in moments of palpable nostalgia and joy (which is much needed in the world today) but it also feels a bit hollow and, as Bosk alluded to, corporate at times, IMO.
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With the right director, it could have been great, but Robert Rodriguez is a shit director. Why do they keep letting him direct action heavy episodes?
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I personally really like Robert Rodriguez's work but not the Spy Kids work, more like Sin City work. This finale had flashbacks to episode 3 again. There were some good things and some awful things. In the end I guess it just was ok. I kinda wished they hadn't forced in the Mandalorian in any of these episodes. Total waste of an arc for this show. Really mixed show.
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I was going to come in and talk about how much I enjoyed it, but this seems like the wrong thread for that.
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I was going to come in and talk about how much I enjoyed it, but this seems like the wrong thread for that.
Yeah. All in all I liked the season. I think it was pretty clear that series was used as a shoe horn for S3 of The Mandalorian and S1 for Ahsoka. Boba’s character got some back story and he’s accomplished what he set out to do.
I was surprised they killed off Cad Bane considering he was impossible to kill in the animated shows…..always slipping away just in time…..but it was fitting that Boba was the one who did it considering their history. It’s too bad those who haven’t seen the animated stuff don’t understand just how great a character that was.
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It was a bang-bang finale, and ended the series on a high note overall. But overall, I feel like it wasn't really earned. We sat through six episodes of some pretty inconsistent build-up to get to it. Some good scenes, but I don't know if any single episode was really good. And in the end, the "book" of Boba Fett was really just a footnote in the saga of Din Djarin, The Mandalorian. When Mando Season 3 comes round, it can just pick up from here. I'm looking forward to that. I'm fine if there's no Book 2 of Boba Fett.
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I was going to come in and talk about how much I enjoyed it, but this seems like the wrong thread for that.
I'm with you. I enjoyed the series overall. There were some questionable plot choices, but nothing egregious. I think a lot of the problems people are having with the show stems from the shows inability to convey just how much time has passed between when Boba escaped the sarlacc pit and the final showdown with the Pyke Syndicate. It's been years at this point.
Also there are a lot of characters from the animated series that a lot of people aren't familiar with if you hadn't watched those series. Which is too bad because those series are really good too.
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Fun finale,enjoyed it, but also agree with everyone that overall the series was a sloppy mess of ideas that were just forced together. They set aside building a good story in favor of fan service, and lost a lot of potential in the process. Honestly, they could've hinted at Grogu, had Mando be a mercenary to help Boba, and keep the series centered on him and fans would've been very happy. I figured Grogu would choose Mando, if only that gives them an out for him surviving Ben's breakdown.
Grogu is still just too fucking cute though.
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Had fun watching the finale. Grogu in space mithril is a win for the show. I enjoyed how Boba riding the monster was a pretty chaotic and destructive way to accomplish his goals. I was very pleased to see him stab that ridiculous blue High Plains Drifter wanna be. It was like being threatened by a Teletubby-shark with indigestion--annoying more than scary.
All in all, fun series. Kinda weird at times, but wasn't a waste of time.
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All in all, fun series. Kinda weird at times, but wasn't a waste of time.
That really sums it up quite well. :lol
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that ridiculous blue High Plains Drifter wanna be. It was like being threatened by a Teletubby-shark with indigestion--annoying more than scary.
It's a bummer you haven't watched any of the animated series because Cad Bane was far from your description. BUT....I can see how folks who don't know his character or backstory could think such a thing. While Ahsoka or Bo Katan 'works' even without the backstory......you really need to know his history with Boba Fett.....the sinister crap he'd pulled off and how many times he eluded sure death for his little role to be appreciated.
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We’ll, I did watch them all and to say that I was less impressed than you would be an understatement. :lol
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The first four episodes were a little boring. The last three with Mando were definitely more entertaining to watch, including the finale, but yeah, it was a bit of a mess.
I think the first four would have been more effective if the framing device of memories in a bacta tank was removed, and all of the flashback scenes were instead given as a continuous group in episode 1. And also if Boba Fett as a character had any depth or worth in any way other than visually.
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And also if Boba Fett as a character had any depth or worth in any way other than visually.
This is my biggest beef. We never really understood Boba and why he wanted to protect Mos Espa instead of being a bounty hunter. He continually referred to them as "his people" but we never saw him interact with them. He said "they need me" but never presented any evidence that they needed or wanted his protection. I feel like we were just supposed to accept the change that came over Boba after he came out of the sarlaac, but we never really saw the change happen.
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We’ll, I did watch them all and to say that I was less impressed than you would be an understatement. :lol
Really? You didn’t like that character? I thought he was pretty slick and a great villain.
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Thought the finale episode was maybe the best of the series, but that may not be saying too much. Overall I did enjoy the show, but it really just came off as a poorly told story for Boba and a forceful interjection of the Mandalorian to almost save the show. I did like how all those forgotten storylines from the first 4 episodes finally came back to play a role in the finale. I did think a lot of the fight scenes didn't make too much sense, but I enjoyed it mostly for the Rancor action. Also, did those Droids even kill anyone? :lol never seen so many missed shots.
Geez, don't you hate it when all of these Marvel things just end in a giant CGI battle? Oh wait...this is Star Wars? :lol
Add in the after credits scene. Which really is fine. My gf's prediction is Cobb eventually takes over for Boba as Boba will eventually leave "his people" to go back to bounty hunting or some other role in the Mando world. I can see that happening, since as others have stated, there's really been no reason presented for Boba to be one with his people.
I was surprised they killed off Cad Bane considering he was impossible to kill in the animated shows…..always slipping away just in time…..but it was fitting that Boba was the one who did it considering their history. It’s too bad those who haven’t seen the animated stuff don’t understand just how great a character that was.
I think this was my least liked part of the episode. This character, for us who did not watch the cartoons, was new and bad ass and already gone. I kind of wanted him to be a larger role in the future of Boba's story since they hinted at some backstory between them so I felt like there could be so much more here, but they just ended it.
I'd probably rate the show as a whole like a 6/10 or something. There's enough there to enjoy it, but not enough to really recommend it to someone.
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Keep in mind that the lights on Cad Bane's outfit didn't stop blinking or go out, which leaves the possibility that he isn't QUITE dead.
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Keep in mind that the lights on Cad Bane's outfit didn't stop blinking or go out, which leaves the possibility that he isn't QUITE dead.
Didn't catch that, but what, they just left his body there then? :lol I mean, they explained Boba surviving so anything is possible.
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Keep in mind that the lights on Cad Bane's outfit didn't stop blinking or go out, which leaves the possibility that he isn't QUITE dead.
Didn't catch that, but what, they just left his body there then? :lol I mean, they explained Boba surviving so anything is possible.
Not to mention Darth Maul and Fenec surviving..seems unless your a Stormtrooper in Imperial armor, getting shot is merely a flesh would.
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I'll preface my post to say, this is jingle.boy opinion only. God bless ya'll that enjoyed it.
It wasn't AWFUL,
Yes, it was. That episode single-handedly made it the worst (by far) D+ Marvel/SW series. I found virtually no redeeming qualities in what I witnessed. The bones and premise of the episode could've been really good, but the execution was a hot mess. And the little subtle things (the Mod's spinaroonie shot, Rancor Kong climbing the tower, the Scorpion's having worse aim than a Stormtrooper, the Freetown crowd emptying rounds when the Scorp was shielded, but then just acting like spectators when the shields were down, the clear 'tell' that Boba would use the Tuskan staff to kill Cob (who was absolutely wasted as a character).... need I go on, cuz I could) were like witnessing the ideas of a 6th grader 6-year old.
I lost count of my ::)'s at 7.
The best thing about the series was the back-story with the Tuskans
P.S. there's no gravity in space. jingle.son had the gall to say "but there's G-forces"... to which I responded "WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THING THE G STANDS FOR!?!?!?" :lol :lol
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And also if Boba Fett as a character had any depth or worth in any way other than visually.
This is my biggest beef. We never really understood Boba and why he wanted to protect Mos Espa instead of being a bounty hunter. He continually referred to them as "his people" but we never saw him interact with them. He said "they need me" but never presented any evidence that they needed or wanted his protection. I feel like we were just supposed to accept the change that came over Boba after he came out of the sarlaac, but we never really saw the change happen.
This was a huge part of my "MEH" overall feeling. Also, when Boba says those droids are going to destroy the town! Droids then proceed orderly down streets... and then Boba brings his rancore to DESTROY the town :mehlin
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Yeah, that too.
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:lol touche
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I enjoyed the finale, and the season as a whole. There are nitpicky complaints that aren't wrong, but have to varying degrees been present in pretty much all Star Wars (including the OT) so those things generally don't bother me very much.
The main factor that differentiates it from the best entries in the franchise is simply that there wasn't really much about the main narrative for me to care about.
To draw comparisons to The Mandalorian, that show also has some nitpicky issues at times (incredibly slow pace, some aspects that don't really make any sense), but the emotional core is about Din trying to figure out who he is. That struggle is mostly written well, and it's conceptually engaging and develops really well such that the odd weaker moments don't detract from it.
By comparison, Boba's struggle isn't really a particularly emotional one but more of a practical/tactical one. Which is fine for what it is, but for me it's not enough to hold a series together. And that's where the more specific issues (occasional weak dialogue, terrible bike chase) become more noticeable.
I do think that if they'd made this Mando Season 3 and split the stories roughly half and half over the course of the season, it would have worked better in a number of ways, but never mind.
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I do think that if they'd made this Mando Season 3 and split the stories roughly half and half over the course of the season, it would have worked better in a number of ways, but never mind.
Increased episode numbers in S3 of Mando that incorporated the Boba storyline would have worked. Throw a 10 episode S3 of Mando with 45+ minutes per episode and it'd have seemed more tight perhaps.
While it wasn't just this hugely OMG series I still liked that they utilized it to lay the ground work for the other series to come and got some things out of the way that would have chewed up screen time in those series.
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I am in full agreement that this would have been better as season 3 of the Mandalorian. 8 episodes, split between Din and Boba with them coming together at the end.
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I also agree this could have been season 3 of Mando, but if they did go that route, they probably could have cut out some of the Boba stuff to not make it some sort of split season (because then people would probably say "why didn't they just make a Boba season?") and then fill in more of the Mando storyline so he's still the main focus.
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I've seen some comments about how they realized that Boba was really kinduva boring guy, so they brought in Din Djarin and suddenly things were more interesting. It seemed to play out that way, but I can't believe that they didn't plan out the entire seven-episode series ahead of time. I mean, they didn't see the reviews of the first couple of episodes and decide to change course; there's no way they had time for that.
This means that somehow, they decided that this was the way to go: two episodes of Boba that are mostly flashbactas, two of him actually "running the town" (or trying to anyway), two episodes of Din Djarin because people like him, then a finale that somehow ties everything up. They planned this. They thought it would be awesome, even told us so. And this is what we got?
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I'm glad I wasn't the only one who caught that random unnecessary twirl by the mod guy.
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I'm glad I wasn't the only one who caught that random unnecessary twirl by the mod guy.
Husband and I both were like WTF
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The Book of Boba Fett is so busy it forgets to make Boba Fett interesting
https://www.theverge.com/22925214/the-book-of-boba-fett-season-finale-review-star-wars-disney-plus
Agree on all accounts
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I'm glad I wasn't the only one who caught that random unnecessary twirl by the mod guy.
Husband and I both were like WTF
My wife looked at me during that scene and said, "does the twirling help?"
That reminded me of this scene from Galaxy Quest :lol
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/2dd005e30905427e87a90950b30fbc6b/tumblr_nmt9paO1HZ1r5k9koo6_r1_250.gifv)
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I'm glad I wasn't the only one who caught that random unnecessary twirl by the mod guy.
Husband and I both were like WTF
Ditto. jingle.son and I literally lol'd - and not in a good way.
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The Book of Boba Fett is so busy it forgets to make Boba Fett interesting
https://www.theverge.com/22925214/the-book-of-boba-fett-season-finale-review-star-wars-disney-plus
Agree on all accounts
That article was 100% spot on.
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The show was an enjoyable mess. It was terribly structured and often not well written, but still quite fun because it's all the toys we used to play with.
This video really does a good job explaining it well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItLofBqW4Zc
But yea, they really just need a Star Wars Chronicles or whatever show so they can just do whatever they want and not have to worry about cohesive plots. Cause this was barely about Boba, and when it was, it was not terribly well done.
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I'm glad I wasn't the only one who caught that random unnecessary twirl by the mod guy.
Husband and I both were like WTF
Ditto. jingle.son and I literally lol'd - and not in a good way.
I literally said out loud "What the fuck was that?"
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I'm glad I wasn't the only one who caught that random unnecessary twirl by the mod guy.
Husband and I both were like WTF
Ditto. jingle.son and I literally lol'd - and not in a good way.
I literally said out loud "What the fuck was that?"
I must have missed it. I literally don't know what y'all are referencing and Google isn't helping. Anyone got a link to a clip?
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The show was not perfect but it was fun and enjoyable. It would have been better served with one less Boba and the sand creature episodes. I also think it would have been better served calling it something else. Maybe "The Fight for Tatooine" or something.
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The show was not perfect but it was fun and enjoyable. It would have been better served with one less Boba and the sand creature episodes. I also think it would have been better served calling it something else. Maybe "The Fight for Tatooine" or something.
Or....."We Have to Fill 6 Weeks with Some SW Stuff Before The Kenobi Series....Here Ya' Go"
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I'm glad I wasn't the only one who caught that random unnecessary twirl by the mod guy.
Husband and I both were like WTF
Ditto. jingle.son and I literally lol'd - and not in a good way.
I literally said out loud "What the fuck was that?"
I must have missed it. I literally don't know what y'all are referencing and Google isn't helping. Anyone got a link to a clip?
It was at 32:10, right when a couple of the mods were helping Black Krrsantan up on his feet.
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The Book of Boba Fett is so busy it forgets to make Boba Fett interesting
https://www.theverge.com/22925214/the-book-of-boba-fett-season-finale-review-star-wars-disney-plus
Agree on all accounts
That article was 100% spot on.
Well, a lot of it is. But I think it misses the mark in its conclusion when it says, "But like midichlorians or Solo, the series is more proof that attempting to explain everything in Star Wars takes away a bit of the magic that made it so cool in the first place. Sometimes, less is more — but in a world where the entire Disney Plus streaming service hinges on new Star Wars shows, it’s likely that “more” is all we’ll get of these characters."
Honestly, that isn't really the main problem here. Yeah, we didn't really need a Boba Fett backstory. I guess I don't really disagree with that. But I'm not disappointed that they tried to give us one. I'm just disappointed that it was executed so poorly. As with other Star Wars "fails," the bones of a really good story are here. They just made a mess of it.
One other issue that I'll mention that hasn't been expressly pointed out: The scale of the conflict was off. I had this same complaint for Thor: Ragnarok when we get to see that the "realm" of Asgard is actually more the size of a town with a relatively small population. The scale problem in this show was different. Mos Espa and Tatooine as a whole were actually fine. But then we get the seemingly massive Pyke syndicate, plus Cad Bane, plus a couple of scorpion droids vs. Boba Fett and a dozen or so companions of widely varying levels of competence. This is such an imbalanced fight. It was basically that even much earlier in the show when it is Fett, Agent May, and 2 Gammorians telling an entire town that they are now in charge. That isn't even remotely how things work. He needed to have rallied some kind of army or group of thugs behind him to provide some sort of reasonable threat to those that would challenge him coming in and declaring himself in charge.
On top of that, in the final episode, while it could have been a cool underdog story, it didn't come across that way. Here's an example of a good underdog story that, despite completely one-sided odds, makes you believe the otherwise unbelievable outcome: John Rambo vs. Sheriff Teasle (and the entire Sheriff's Department of Hope, WA), plus surrounding police/sheriff's departments, plus a local citizen's militia, plus the National Guard. You all know the story, so I won't bore you by repeating the details. But it works and we believe it and we root for the underdog because: (1) we learn that there is a lot more to his character than meets the eye, and he actually has training and skills to deal with the situation; (2) he uses the environment, traps, etc. to gain and use advantages; (3) he overcomes the odds and wins, not just through luck and happenstance, but because he uses 1 and 2 in ways that don't require an unacceptable suspension of belief; and (4) we are given enough about the characters to understand their motivations and to make us want to root for Rambo.
None of that happens in The Book of Boba Fett. He and his way-too-small of a crew are put into ridiculous situations, are constantly outmaneuvered by the bad buys, don't have any sort of a plan, and still win because...well, just because. We don't get anything remotely resembling the above, and that is why, despite being fun, action-packed eye candy and fan service, the last episode (and the series as a whole) falls so flat for me. And it was fun. And the fan service was fine--I can overcome the eyerolls and just roll with it if there is a good payoff. It just lacked any sort of believability and ethos that could enable me to suspend enough belief, and lack of credible basis to suspend enough belief, to ultimately be satisfying. Even for a show whose goal of defining "satisfying" merely as, "hey, that was really fun."
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That's basically how I feel about Fett and his reign as boss of Mos Something (I don't even remember which town it was). Scaling was way off, from the beginning to the end.
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The Book of Boba Fett is so busy it forgets to make Boba Fett interesting
https://www.theverge.com/22925214/the-book-of-boba-fett-season-finale-review-star-wars-disney-plus
Agree on all accounts
That article was 100% spot on.
Well, a lot of it is. But I think it misses the mark in its conclusion when it says, "But like midichlorians or Solo, the series is more proof that attempting to explain everything in Star Wars takes away a bit of the magic that made it so cool in the first place. Sometimes, less is more — but in a world where the entire Disney Plus streaming service hinges on new Star Wars shows, it’s likely that “more” is all we’ll get of these characters."
Honestly, that isn't really the main problem here. Yeah, we didn't really need a Boba Fett backstory. I guess I don't really disagree with that. But I'm not disappointed that they tried to give us one. I'm just disappointed that it was executed so poorly. As with other Star Wars "fails," the bones of a really good story are here. They just made a mess of it.
One other issue that I'll mention that hasn't been expressly pointed out: The scale of the conflict was off. I had this same complaint for Thor: Ragnarok when we get to see that the "realm" of Asgard is actually more the size of a town with a relatively small population. The scale problem in this show was different. Mos Espa and Tatooine as a whole were actually fine. But then we get the seemingly massive Pyke syndicate, plus Cad Bane, plus a couple of scorpion droids vs. Boba Fett and a dozen or so companions of widely varying levels of competence. This is such an imbalanced fight. It was basically that even much earlier in the show when it is Fett, Agent May, and 2 Gammorians telling an entire town that they are now in charge. That isn't even remotely how things work. He needed to have rallied some kind of army or group of thugs behind him to provide some sort of reasonable threat to those that would challenge him coming in and declaring himself in charge.
On top of that, in the final episode, while it could have been a cool underdog story, it didn't come across that way. Here's an example of a good underdog story that, despite completely one-sided odds, makes you believe the otherwise unbelievable outcome: John Rambo vs. Sheriff Teasle (and the entire Sheriff's Department of Hope, WA), plus surrounding police/sheriff's departments, plus a local citizen's militia, plus the National Guard. You all know the story, so I won't bore you by repeating the details. But it works and we believe it and we root for the underdog because: (1) we learn that there is a lot more to his character than meets the eye, and he actually has training and skills to deal with the situation; (2) he uses the environment, traps, etc. to gain and use advantages; (3) he overcomes the odds and wins, not just through luck and happenstance, but because he uses 1 and 2 in ways that don't require an unacceptable suspension of belief; and (4) we are given enough about the characters to understand their motivations and to make us want to root for Rambo.
None of that happens in The Book of Boba Fett. He and his way-too-small of a crew are put into ridiculous situations, are constantly outmaneuvered by the bad buys, don't have any sort of a plan, and still win because...well, just because. We don't get anything remotely resembling the above, and that is why, despite being fun, action-packed eye candy and fan service, the last episode (and the series as a whole) falls so flat for me. And it was fun. And the fan service was fine--I can overcome the eyerolls and just roll with it if there is a good payoff. It just lacked any sort of believability and ethos that could enable me to suspend enough belief, and lack of credible basis to suspend enough belief, to ultimately be satisfying. Even for a show whose goal of defining "satisfying" merely as, "hey, that was really fun."
Yes to all of this. My wife and I were laughing at the whole set up of this episode. “We have every angle covered!” You have 6 people scattered across what looks like a city of 100s of thousands, maybe millions, and you’re hoping a few settlers will show up as reinforcements. And you’re going to leave your best tactical weapon (Boba’s ship) completely on the sidelines. Then you’re gonna sit tight in a bombed out bar and, what? What was the expectation there? Why did the Pike even bother attacking them? What did they have to gain? Just keep running your spice in some other part of Tatooine where Boba can’t get to you. It’s a big planet! Also, where are they running the spice to? What is spice? Why do we care that they are trucking it through the desert on floating trains?
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+1 to everything Bosk said. Very well put.
At the end of the day, I did enjoy it, but I felt a bit unsatisfied because there were points where I felt it could have been so much better.
Ya, I literally eyerolled at “the twirl”. Who thought that was a good idea?
And am I just slow? Or was the ending song always saying “boba boba boba FETT!!” On previous episodes we always thought it sounded like random vocalizations. But at the end of this episode it suddenly became really obvious that they were saying Boba Fett‘s name!
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The problem here, IMHO, it's... Boba was just a flat secondary character that people liked just because everybody imagined a huge, fantastic background story behind him, and now they're receiveing nothing of it but witnessing the ageing Boba, who barely survived the Sarlacc and the Tuskens, and (as Cad Bane well said) got soft and slow. So nothing people expected is being delivered (there're comics about those years). Plus, don't forget it's a show lead by elderly actors: Temuera: 61, Ming-Na: 58, David: 61, Jennifer: 58...
I think this show (plus Mando and Ahsoka) were meant to merge the classic trilogy with the last one to make sense. It won't surprise me if C-3PO appears in season 2 (Boba said he need a protocol droid) and we saw R2 alone. I'm sure Han and Leia wil appear delivering Threepio (someway) and maybe Krrsantan will tear off his arm, explaining the red one he used in Ep7.
Just an idea.
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The ideas are so perfectly obvious that it seems like exactly the kind of thing they will do.
:lol
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And am I just slow? Or was the ending song always saying “boba boba boba FETT!!” On previous episodes we always thought it sounded like random vocalizations. But at the end of this episode it suddenly became really obvious that they were saying Boba Fett‘s name!
We noticed that for the first time last night too, so hopefully that means it was just for this episode!
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And am I just slow? Or was the ending song always saying “boba boba boba FETT!!” On previous episodes we always thought it sounded like random vocalizations. But at the end of this episode it suddenly became really obvious that they were saying Boba Fett‘s name!
We noticed that for the first time last night too, so hopefully that means it was just for this episode!
Always turned it off once the vocals started, they sounded ridiculous to me. Eye roll worthy.
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I just hope we can get something that feels entirely fresh and separate from the things we know. We're almost a decade into Disney-Star Wars and they have been pumping out movies and tv-shows and everything is just so tapped into nostalgia. When I was a kid, part of what got me into Star Wars was the feeling that the universe was so huge and you could do anything with it going forward, but it turns out it's actually incredibly small and every story has to focus on a small set of characters where you'll get a connection to one of the original trilogy characters, or you keep seeing the same few planets appearing all the time.
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I just hope we can get something that feels entirely fresh and separate from the things we know. We're almost a decade into Disney-Star Wars and they have been pumping out movies and tv-shows and everything is just so tapped into nostalgia. When I was a kid, part of what got me into Star Wars was the feeling that the universe was so huge and you could do anything with it going forward, but it turns out it's actually incredibly small and every story has to focus on a small set of characters where you'll get a connection to one of the original trilogy characters, or you keep seeing the same few planets appearing all the time.
Couldn't agree more.
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I just hope we can get something that feels entirely fresh and separate from the things we know. We're almost a decade into Disney-Star Wars and they have been pumping out movies and tv-shows and everything is just so tapped into nostalgia. When I was a kid, part of what got me into Star Wars was the feeling that the universe was so huge and you could do anything with it going forward, but it turns out it's actually incredibly small and every story has to focus on a small set of characters where you'll get a connection to one of the original trilogy characters, or you keep seeing the same few planets appearing all the time.
Couldn't agree more.
Yeah but you know full well if they start pumping out ‘new’ content that the SW ‘fans’ will bitch about it not being real SW and they’ll lament that there is no tie into the OT and ‘real’ SW. there will always be a sect of folks complaining about it.
Honestly, the Ahsoka series has the best shot at ‘new’ material given what we know about the plot so far. While it’s tied to the Rebels series there shouldn’t be a whole lot of OT characters show up and should be a fresh story.
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I just hope we can get something that feels entirely fresh and separate from the things we know. We're almost a decade into Disney-Star Wars and they have been pumping out movies and tv-shows and everything is just so tapped into nostalgia. When I was a kid, part of what got me into Star Wars was the feeling that the universe was so huge and you could do anything with it going forward, but it turns out it's actually incredibly small and every story has to focus on a small set of characters where you'll get a connection to one of the original trilogy characters, or you keep seeing the same few planets appearing all the time.
Couldn't agree more.
Yeah but you know full well if they start pumping out ‘new’ content that the SW ‘fans’ will bitch about it not being real SW and they’ll lament that there is no tie into the OT and ‘real’ SW. there will always be a sect of folks complaining about it.
Honestly, the Ahsoka series has the best shot at ‘new’ material given what we know about the plot so far. While it’s tied to the Rebels series there shouldn’t be a whole lot of OT characters show up and should be a fresh story.
I hope so.. They really need to start poking their heads out of the OT bubble. Mando had done that for a while, but they just kept having to pull back in.
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I would say even Ahsoka but also the new Obi-Wan show, even if tapping more into the prequel trilogy and Clone Wars than the OT, are still very much relying on characters we know and like, set in an era where you can introduce other characters people know, or have other breadcrumbs to "this will set up XYZ".
For me it would be cool to just make a Star Wars trilogy (or show) set either thousands of years before our current timeline or a thousands of years into the future. That way you could come up with very different looking ships, armor, have a very different political climate in the galaxy and you can also make something entirely original without any baggage that comes from our current timeline. (Questions such as where is this character? What happened with XYZ?) You can still have jedi, you can still have sith but you can have a very different setting to present these stories in.
I actually thought it was a missed opportunity in the Disney trilogy not to do something different with the political climate. They almost hit the reset button right away with the bad guys becoming the overpowering threat and our good guy rebels being a small force of good trying to restore order. Could have been cool with a switch where the mighty evil empire were outnumbered by a big republic force. Or how about making a story from the perspective of someone in the empire? Unless you are Palpatine or Snoke at the top, and you're just part of the empire, you probably don't consider yourself to be a bad guy. Could be interesting with a story featuring someone from the empire being our protagonist and portraying the rebels/republic as the enemy force. Even if it's just for a one-off show.
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A movie / trilogy about a Sith homeworld/society where a few Sith start to turn to the light side. That could be neat.
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And am I just slow? Or was the ending song always saying “boba boba boba FETT!!” On previous episodes we always thought it sounded like random vocalizations. But at the end of this episode it suddenly became really obvious that they were saying Boba Fett‘s name!
We noticed that for the first time last night too, so hopefully that means it was just for this episode!
Always turned it off once the vocals started, they sounded ridiculous to me. Eye roll worthy.
LOL after every episode I would start humming the "boba" in the song to piss her off, but it wasnt until the final episode that I realized the chants were actually Boba Fett :rollin we were both cracking up so hard when we realized that.
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A movie / trilogy about a Sith homeworld/society where a few Sith start to turn to the light side. That could be neat.
A Disney + show where the protagonist is a Sith, and everything is reversed. The mission is against Jedi/goodness. And the mission is successful. The Sith win.
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A movie / trilogy about a Sith homeworld/society where a few Sith start to turn to the light side. That could be neat.
A Disney + show where the protagonist is a Sith, and everything is reversed. The mission is against Jedi/goodness. And the mission is successful. The Sith win.
I’d be good with that. For them to have flourished for so long the Jedi would have had to take a good beating or two along the way.
You have shows like Breaking Bad and Dexter that found a way to make you ‘root for’ and like horrible people…..it could be done with a charismatic Sith Lord as well.
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A movie / trilogy about a Sith homeworld/society where a few Sith start to turn to the light side. That could be neat.
A Disney + show where the protagonist is a Sith, and everything is reversed. The mission is against Jedi/goodness. And the mission is successful. The Sith win.
I’d be good with that. For them to have flourished for so long the Jedi would have had to take a good beating or two along the way.
You have shows like Breaking Bad and Dexter that found a way to make you ‘root for’ and like horrible people…..it could be done with a charismatic Sith Lord as well.
Damned straight. I read a Darth Maul book a long time ago, and loved it/him.
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Wasn't that the plot of the Battlefront video games?
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Wasn't that the plot of the Battlefront video games?
I have no idea. I don't play video games.
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Wasn't that the plot of the Battlefront video games?
I have no idea. I don't play video games.
Same....but, it sounds cool.
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Wasn't that the plot of the Battlefront video games?
I have no idea. I don't play video games.
Same....but, it sounds cool.
That's too bad, Gary. I think you'd get a charge out of the plot/story of Jedi Fallen Order. It was really fun to play, but the characters were really well done. In particular, I think you'd have liked Trilla Suduri, 2nd Sister of the Inquisitors. A villian with very believable motivations (justified?) and seriously scary power.
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Wasn't that the plot of the Battlefront video games?
I have no idea. I don't play video games.
Same....but, it sounds cool.
That's too bad, Gary. I think you'd get a charge out of the plot/story of Jedi Fallen Order. It was really fun to play, but the characters were really well done. In particular, I think you'd have liked Trilla Suduri, 2nd Sister of the Inquisitors. A villian with very believable motivations (justified?) and seriously scary power.
So I've seen video's pop up on Youtube where basically people have edited all the cut scenes and what not from those games into the overall story. Some of them are really long but now hearing this it sounds like it may be worth watching one or two of them.
I LOVED the introduction of the Inquisitor's in Rebels and think it was a really cool idea and avenue to explore. It resulted in some neat storylines and characters.
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I wish Disney would adapt the Knights of the Old Republic games into a TV series.
That's still one of the best stories to come out of the Star Wars extended universe.
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I rewatched the BBOBF finale this morning. It didn't get any better the second time around. So many head scratching plot decisions. Still an enjoyable show though.
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I rewatched the BBOBF finale this morning. It didn't get any better the second time around. So many head scratching plot decisions. Still an enjoyable show though.
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In 20 years when George Lucas has control again, he's going edit the mod guy to spin twice.
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In 20 years when George Lucas has control again, he's going edit the mod guy to spin twice.
He'll do it as a wispy figure in the sky of Return of the Jedi's latest remaster
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I wish Disney would adapt the Knights of the Old Republic games into a TV series.
That's still one of the best stories to come out of the Star Wars extended universe.
Oh my, both those games are fantastic. I bought both of them again on a Steam Sale some years ago (for like 1-2 euros each) but haven't played hem again. I wonder how they'd hold up to today's standards. Story-wise though, both were amazing.
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You know what I find silly about all the Star Wars films & series? Whenever 'they' go to a new planet they always end up EXACTLY at the right place. Now I get that sometimes they navigate to specific parts of a planet, but for example Luke Skywalker smashing his X-Wing basically on top of Yoda's hut out of all places on an entire planet is unbelievable, especially since it happens all the time in the series. Looking for something specific on a planet? Never mind, just jump to hyperspace and land literally anywhere and it will probably happen to be the exact right spot :lol
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You know what I find silly about all the Star Wars films & series? Whenever 'they' go to a new planet they always end up EXACTLY at the right place. Now I get that sometimes they navigate to specific parts of a planet, but for example Luke Skywalker smashing his X-Wing basically on top of Yoda's hut out of all places on an entire planet is unbelievable, especially since it happens all the time in the series. Looking for something specific on a planet? Never mind, just jump to hyperspace and land literally anywhere and it will probably happen to be the exact right spot :lol
The Force was guiding them.
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You know what I find silly about all the Star Wars films & series? Whenever 'they' go to a new planet they always end up EXACTLY at the right place. Now I get that sometimes they navigate to specific parts of a planet, but for example Luke Skywalker smashing his X-Wing basically on top of Yoda's hut out of all places on an entire planet is unbelievable, especially since it happens all the time in the series. Looking for something specific on a planet? Never mind, just jump to hyperspace and land literally anywhere and it will probably happen to be the exact right spot :lol
This has bugged me a tiny bit too, but it's easy to overlook for the sake of the story. Half a movie of Luke searching Dagobah for Yoda would have added nothing. I'm also slightly annoyed by the fact that all planets seem to be only one environment type: Forest planet, desert planet, city planet, lava planet, etc.
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You know what I find silly about all the Star Wars films & series? Whenever 'they' go to a new planet they always end up EXACTLY at the right place. Now I get that sometimes they navigate to specific parts of a planet, but for example Luke Skywalker smashing his X-Wing basically on top of Yoda's hut out of all places on an entire planet is unbelievable, especially since it happens all the time in the series. Looking for something specific on a planet? Never mind, just jump to hyperspace and land literally anywhere and it will probably happen to be the exact right spot :lol
The Force was guiding them.
Well.....in the case of Luke crashing perfectly in the right spot that is true. It's been revealed through a lot of conversation and I think even in one of the many stories since then that Yoda essentially force guided Luke's X-Wing right to him
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Fett House
https://twitter.com/nerdist/status/1493283908418359296?s=20&t=q6JpUvaRnn0nT77OWhQ67g
:lol
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:lol
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Fett House
https://twitter.com/nerdist/status/1493283908418359296?s=20&t=q6JpUvaRnn0nT77OWhQ67g
:lol
LMAOO!! That was great.
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OMG, the internet wins today. Talk about a glorious way to end a Friday.
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OMG :rollin :rollin :rollin
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Holy shit balls, that's awesome. :lol
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That was the funniest thing I've seen in awhile. Great cuts and editing. :lol
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I love the 'knowing' grins and nods during the credit sequence. That was spot on.
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“The Spin”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1SKZSAieII
:rollin
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OK, I was just giving it the :| most of the way through. But when the Tuskens and bantha got taken out with one shot, and it escalated from there, I lost it. :lol
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“The Spin”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1SKZSAieII
:rollin
LOLLLL
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:lol and yeah, that escalated quickly and greatly