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Title: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on November 07, 2021, 06:29:22 PM
The TAC Rouette V.5  DTF Faves...WTF Am I Missing??


In this roulette, I am going to explore some of DTF's favorite artists, so I can find out what I'm missing. Convince me DTF!

I have sampled a number of these acts, and by that, maybe a song of two.

So, the Banned List is ...EVERYTHING..except the following 8 bands.

One band per round. Pick two songs and send them. Simple.

I'm going through my previous roulettes to ban what I've been sent before.



Round 1. Devin Townsend

Doesn't matter if it's released as DT, DTP, or I'll even allow Strapping Young Lad, as long as he's the vocalist.
Wrong Side and Earth Day are banned.

Round 2. Haken

Everything they have released is fair game.

Round 3. Between The Buried And Me

Everything up to and including The Great Misdirect is banned. Everything after TGM is fair game.


Round 4. Neal Morse

Everything he has released is fair game. You can send Spock's Beard as long as it's Neal on vocals.


Round 5. Coheed

Everything they have released is fair game.
Three Evils is banned.

Round 6. Opeth

Only albums banned are Ghost Reveries and Heritage.

Round 7. Porcupine Tree

You may send one SW solo song in liue of one PT song.
Deadwing is banned.


Round 8. Mastodon

Crack The Skye is banned.




I am banning instrumentals for ALL rounds!

Submitting...

Just PM me the name of the songs. Hopefully everything is on Spotify, and I can make a playlist. If not, I can figure it out.

The TAC Wild Card™...

ONCE during the roulette, you may use your Wild Card. So for one round, if you're torn between songs, you can send THREE songs, and I'll pick the best two. I will listen to each once, and eliminate one on the first listen.

Scoring...

I'll score each song separately and average the two.



If you want to play, but may not be familiar with every act, it's all random to me anyway, so you can just pick whatever!



IN.
1. Cyril
2. Romdrums
3. Kingshmegland
4. Lonestar
5. Wolfking
6. 425
7. Vmadera00
8. ProfessorPeart
9. Ariich
10. Buddyhunter
11. Puppies
12. Kwyjibo
13. HOF
14. Elite
15. LudwigVan
16. Stadler
17. Evermind.






Final Standings!!!



Puppies...8.60+8.15+8.25+8.35+8.20+8.35+7.95+7.60=65.45
Ariich...9.0+8.15+7.60+7.85+8.05+8.45+7.95+8.10=65.15
VMadera...8.45+7.35+7.95+8.30+8.60+8.20+7.95+8.20=65.00
Cyril...7.55+8.25+7.95+8.45+8.35+8.30+8.40+7.60=64.95
Romdrums...8.25+7.65+8.25+7.8+7.80+8.50+7.60+7.95=64.80
425...7.90+7.40+7.65+8.45+7.85+8.35+8.0+8.50=64.10
Wolfking...7.80+7.6+8.10+8.0+7.90+8.50+7.95+8.15=64.00
Professor...8.20+7.6+7.0+8.05+8.30+8.80+8.20+7.65=63.80
LudwigVan...8.35+7.55+7.35+7.90+8.30+8.45+7.75+7.65=63.50
Kingshmegland...7.70+8.25+7.85+7.85+8.20+7.90+7.50+8.00=63.25
Buddy...7.05+8.15+7.75+8.05+8.20+8.20+7.55+8.05=63.00
Kwyjibo...7.80+8.75+7.65+8.15+7.60+8.05+7.40+7.55=62.95
HOF...7.65+7.50+8.05+7.60+7.95+7.90+7.95+8.25=62.85
Elite...7.50+7.75+7.60+7.90+7.80+8.65+7.45+8.00=62.65
Lonestar...7.80+7.25+7.85+7.40+8.0+8.20+8.10+7.75=62.35
Stadler...8.50+7.75+7.35+7.55+7.85+7.85+7.50+8.00=62.35
Evermind...8.20+7.75+7.55+7.45+7.80+7.90+8.0+7.50=62.15

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 07, 2021, 06:36:11 PM
In.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 07, 2021, 06:44:58 PM
In
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 07, 2021, 07:00:03 PM
I have a submission!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 07, 2021, 07:01:32 PM
I have a submission!

Someone pulled a TAC?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 07, 2021, 07:18:25 PM
I don't know Haken, Neal Morse or Coheed. 

I hate Haken though.

Might join and see if I can not come last in those rounds picking a random song I don't know.  Or is that not allowed?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 07, 2021, 07:22:46 PM
Might join and see if I can not come last in those rounds picking a random song I don't know.  Or is that not allowed?

You know what's allowed? Reading the OP! ;D


If you want to play, but may not be familiar with every act, it's all random to me anyway, so you can just pick whatever!



You're in!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 07, 2021, 07:27:50 PM
I need to learn to read OP's.  Let's fucking go!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 07, 2021, 07:30:07 PM
Sure, I'll play this. I know all but two.

What are going to be the rules on sending the same song? First person to send gets it?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 07, 2021, 07:31:57 PM
What are going to be the rules on sending the same song? First person to send gets it?

I'll allow the same song. They'll just receive the same score.

Less writeups for me. ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 07, 2021, 07:33:16 PM
Never played a roulette but know all these bands.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 07, 2021, 07:33:38 PM
What are going to be the rules on sending the same song? First person to send gets it?

I'll allow the same song. They'll just receive the same score.

Less writeups for me. ;D

I might take a zero for the Haken round just so aren't subjected to an extra 2 Haken songs.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 07, 2021, 07:34:26 PM
Never played a roulette but know all these bands.

You just became my smokey to win this thing.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 07, 2021, 07:40:50 PM
Never played a roulette but know all these bands.

You're in!



What are going to be the rules on sending the same song? First person to send gets it?

I'll allow the same song. They'll just receive the same score.

Less writeups for me. ;D

I might take a zero for the Haken round just so aren't subjected to an extra 2 Haken songs.

You win the round on a technicality!



Never played a roulette but know all these bands.

You just became my smokey to win this thing.

Forget it, he's in! ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 07, 2021, 07:43:33 PM
can i skip the neal morse round because i don't like any of his music i'm game for the rest tho
also you're only asking for BTBAM post-their best albums so prepared to be underwhelmed  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 07, 2021, 07:44:53 PM
can i skip the neal morse round because i don't like any of his music i'm game for the rest tho

No you can't skip it. :lol

Dartboard two songs or have someone else pick them.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 07, 2021, 07:48:53 PM
Cyril, I'll pick you two Neal Morse songs if you pick me two BTBAM songs.  :P
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 07, 2021, 07:50:08 PM

also you're only asking for BTBAM post-their best albums so prepared to be underwhelmed  :lol

I abandoned my BTBAM deep dive at TGM.

I've already been underwhelmed. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 07, 2021, 08:08:12 PM
Guess I can pop my roulette cherry with TAC. BTBAM is the only band I don't really know. Otherwise, I am very well versed in everything else.

EDIT: Question on Hevy Devy, sometimes he has other people sing lead on his tracks. Do those count or are you looking only for those tracks that he sings on? This is stuff under the DTP brand, usually.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 07, 2021, 08:08:58 PM

also you're only asking for BTBAM post-their best albums so prepared to be underwhelmed  :lol

I abandoned my BTBAM deep dive at TGM.

I've already been underwhelmed. :lol

I think you're in trouble then.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 07, 2021, 08:14:00 PM
Guess I can pop my roulette cherry with TAC. BTBAM is the only band I don't really know. Otherwise, I am very well versed in everything else.

EDIT: Question on Hevy Devy, sometimes he has other people sing lead on his tracks. Do those count or are you looking only for those tracks that he sings on? This is stuff under the DTP brand, usually.

AWESOME!!!

I'd want him on vocals.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 07, 2021, 08:44:21 PM
OH YOU BETTER LET ME IN OLD MAN!............... I mean, can I please participate, you magnificent beast. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 07, 2021, 08:49:34 PM
I would play just to make you listen an extra two* Neal Morse songs. Most of his stuff is not on Spotify, just so you know.

I'd have to get creative for most of the rest. My best chance would be sending you my least favorite thing by all of these anyway.

*ooh, wild card lets me do three!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 07, 2021, 09:22:36 PM
Sent!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 07, 2021, 09:31:18 PM
alright sent for every round except for round 4, which i'll find some random crap to send from soon ok
you are going to hate porcupine tree no matter what anyone sends you tho. i know your tastes well enough. they have made one song ever you'll like.
i'm assuming there's no problem if two people send the same songs, also. less crap for you to listen to :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 07, 2021, 09:39:18 PM
The interesting part of this roulette will be me being forced to send Opeth, Mastadon, and C&C, which I never got into, or in the case of Opeth I actively dislike most of what I've heard outside of Heritage.

Thank God you didn't have Leprous on the list, otherwise I'd have to pick stuff at random to avoid having to listen to Einar's simpering, whiny ass voice one more time.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 07, 2021, 09:46:27 PM
I’m in. I offer to curate submissions for any band except Neal Morse and Coheed. Maybe in exchange for a Neal Morse submission. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 07, 2021, 09:51:35 PM
I'm happy to trade Neal Morse for either BTBAM or Mastodon.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 07, 2021, 09:54:59 PM
I ain't helping any of you bastards, go get screwed on your own time :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 07, 2021, 10:01:48 PM
I ain't helping any of you bastards, go get screwed on your own time :neverusethis:
:splodetard:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 07, 2021, 10:48:38 PM
This looks like fun. Can I still join?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 07, 2021, 11:39:12 PM
I'll definitely play, the only band I'll need to familiarise myself with a bit more is Coheed, the rest I'm quite comfortable with.

How will you approach two people sending the same thing? I.e. has Cyril already shotgunned songs by every band?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 08, 2021, 01:44:25 AM
I.e. has Cyril already shotgunned songs by every band?
(the answer is yes)
(but for all you know my picks are weird)
(but i'd be shocked if TAC doesn't allow doubling up yeah)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 08, 2021, 01:54:28 AM
(but i'd be shocked if TAC doesn't allow doubling up yeah)
Well yeah, I can't see how the roulette would work otherwise, but I wanted to check. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 08, 2021, 02:07:56 AM
If you still need participants, I'm in.

Neal Morse will probably be a problem because most of his stuff isn't on spotify.

And he got a lot of really long epics, so with the wild card we could sent you 1,5 hours of Neal Morse for that round.  :D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 03:45:39 AM
How will you approach two people sending the same thing? I.e. has Cyril already shotgunned songs by every band?


Same way I approach two people asking the same question.

What are going to be the rules on sending the same song? First person to send gets it?

I'll allow the same song. They'll just receive the same score.

Less writeups for me. ;D

They’ll just receive the same answer.

Less typing for me.  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 08, 2021, 03:56:30 AM
Not sure how I missed that. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 04:12:02 AM
This looks like fun.

No it doesn’t.  :lol


You’re in.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 08, 2021, 04:23:27 AM
Sadly, I think this is gonna be a pass for me.  Devy and Morse are the only acts I like up there, and even at that I only know about 5-6 albums from their libraries. The rest ... I range from “meh” to actively disliking them.

How bout I take a zero for every round?  I may just win if you use the Winger scoring system!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 04:27:23 AM
I'll have to send in the morning now.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 04:38:38 AM
What was I thinking???

This thread last night…
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYjQ5MDkyMGEtYmI0OS00MmM2LWE0MmEtZmQ2NjA5MzYyYTFjXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNjIwMTQzOTU@._V1_.jpg)



…this thread this morning.
(https://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.onecms.io%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F20%2F2014%2F05%2Fpamela-anderson-600x800.jpg&q=85)



Seemed like a good idea at the time…
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 08, 2021, 04:58:45 AM
Let's all send The Grand Conjuration in the Opeth round.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 08, 2021, 05:14:03 AM
You know Tim, there should be a bonus round for Pain of Salvation.  You forgot them as a "beloved" DTF band.  Or Steven Wilson solo material.  That ought to spruce things up!  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 08, 2021, 05:22:48 AM
Let's all send The Grand Conjuration in the Opeth round.

Well, shit. Ghost Reveries is banned :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 08, 2021, 06:25:07 AM
Sent round 1

And I have a feeling that this roulette will be a lot more fun for us participants than for Tim as the listener.  ;D



Let's all send The Grand Conjuration in the Opeth round.

Well, shit. Ghost Reveries is banned :lol

We can still go with Eternal Soul Torture  ;)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 08, 2021, 06:28:23 AM
Let's all send The Grand Conjuration in the Opeth round.

Well, shit. Ghost Reveries is banned :lol
Well, it wouldn't work anyway as he'd only listen to it once per listen-through, and then give each player the same score for it, rather than listening to it over and over again. So we should each send him a different song.

I'll go with Black Rose Immortal. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 06:34:21 AM


And I have a feeling that this roulette will be a lot more fun for us participants than for Tim as the listener.  ;D


For sure!  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 08, 2021, 06:36:13 AM
Every write up better have WTF is this and WTF was that? :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 06:43:41 AM
Every write up better have WTF is this and WTF was that? :lol

It’s in the title!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: LudwigVan on November 08, 2021, 06:47:19 AM
Can I get in?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: faizoff on November 08, 2021, 07:03:02 AM
Cool idea, will be reading the thread. Too lazy to send submissions and convince TAC at this point.  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 07:35:37 AM
Can I get in?

Hell F’n YES!!!

It would my distinct privilege and honor to have you!!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 08, 2021, 08:18:17 AM
Maybe I should handle the gifpressions?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 08:22:45 AM
Maybe I should handle the gifpressions?

(https://i.imgur.com/mTzxK0f.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 08, 2021, 08:25:47 AM
You're gonna get a lot of mileage out of that one, aren't you?

I'll have to seriously consider it... because it would then mean I have to listen to this crap.  Devy and Neal I'd be ok with.  The others ... I've seriously already given them their fair shot - Haken and PT especially.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 08, 2021, 08:34:05 AM
I'll pass. I can make do with Haken, Devin, PT (although Deadwing is my favourite at this point) and Opeth, but I don't like Mastodon, Coheed or BTBAM. Neal Morse is hit or miss with me so yeah, I'll skip this one.

Looking forward to see the write-ups though!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 08:34:31 AM
You're gonna get a lot of mileage out of that one, aren't you?

(https://i.imgur.com/mTzxK0f.jpg)


 ;D ;D



I’ll retire it but I reserve the right to whip it out on special occasions.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Cool Chris on November 08, 2021, 08:35:32 AM
What? No Genesis round?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Stadler on November 08, 2021, 08:42:20 AM
SO you already have about 26 participants; can you take one more?  But full disclosure, I'm in it for the same reasons as you.  I don't like or don't get 3/4 of the bands on your list (I love Dev and Neal Morse, though) so I'm going to be exploring with you.    But I'll listen to them and see if I can find something I like to send.   

(And count me in on those that question no "PoS" or "Steven Wilson solo"; Wilson is like a God around here, and I find him boring, bland and (largely) a dick in interviews, so I wonder what's the what!)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on November 08, 2021, 08:52:48 AM
Sent.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 08, 2021, 09:07:22 AM
Sent!

Looking forward to judging everyone else profusely for their song picks. :corn
I went with a (largely) heavy direction, but I hope you get a wide variety of songs, including some quieter ones. One of the best things about Devin's catalog is its diversity.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 08, 2021, 09:11:39 AM
I'll pass. I can make do with Haken, Devin, PT (although Deadwing is my favourite at this point) and Opeth, but I don't like Mastodon, Coheed or BTBAM. Neal Morse is hit or miss with me so yeah, I'll skip this one.

Looking forward to see the write-ups though!

Throw two dice and pick track X from album X for any artist you don't know :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 09:21:00 AM
What? No Genesis round?

Oh I thought about it.
Aren’t these rounds bad enough?


SO you already have about 26 participants; can you take one more?  But full disclosure, I'm in it for the same reasons as you.  I don't like or don't get 3/4 of the bands on your list (I love Dev and Neal Morse, though) so I'm going to be exploring with you.    But I'll listen to them and see if I can find something I like to send.   

(And count me in on those that question no "PoS" or "Steven Wilson solo"; Wilson is like a God around here, and I find him boring, bland and (largely) a dick in interviews, so I wonder what's the what!)


You’re in.

I honestly forgot about PoS.

I haven’t ruled out being able to send Steven Wilson solo in the PT round. Maybe a song from PT and one for SW.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 09:22:37 AM
Ok. I think 16 is a good number of participants.

Let’s get some songs in!!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 08, 2021, 09:24:33 AM
Have sent!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 09:25:24 AM
Have received unfortunately.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 08, 2021, 09:27:22 AM
You got mine too and you also already confirmed. Yay!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 08, 2021, 09:30:48 AM
Have received unfortunately.

You’re gonna have so much fun!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 08, 2021, 09:31:26 AM
You could do what you did for Devin Townsend and make the Porcupine Tree round just a Steven-Wilson-in-general round. Though I'm not sure what you'd be accomplishing there because PT is his best project and you'll probably hate everything else he's done even more. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 09:33:46 AM
Have received unfortunately.

You’re gonna have so much fun!


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Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 08, 2021, 09:34:46 AM
It'll be interesting to see what the best strategy is for this. Send the best songs and get the same score as like 8 other people? Send unconventional choices and hope to end up ahead of the pack instead of behind it? Try to guess which are the TACiest songs for very non-TAC artists, or just go for what you think is best?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 08, 2021, 09:38:42 AM
Send the songs you think TAC will enjoy most :tup
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 08, 2021, 09:41:25 AM
It'll be interesting to see what the best strategy is for this. Send the best songs and get the same score as like 8 other people? Send unconventional choices and hope to end up ahead of the pack instead of behind it? Try to guess which are the TACiest songs for very non-TAC artists, or just go for what you think is best?

Or send nothing, and win the whole roulette.

Send the songs you think TAC will enjoy most :tup

That's why I'm sending nothing!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: faizoff on November 08, 2021, 09:44:50 AM
From TAC's list Devin Townsend is the only artist I haven't heard a single track in any iteration of him. I've heard one album of Coheed and haven't tried again. The rest are pretty dope.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 08, 2021, 09:45:40 AM
I'll pass. I can make do with Haken, Devin, PT (although Deadwing is my favourite at this point) and Opeth, but I don't like Mastodon, Coheed or BTBAM. Neal Morse is hit or miss with me so yeah, I'll skip this one.

Looking forward to see the write-ups though!

Throw two dice and pick track X from album X for any artist you don't know :neverusethis:

Good stuff. I'm in! :rollin
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 09:46:39 AM
Ok Ruslan.

That’s it though.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 08, 2021, 09:47:29 AM
I’ll retire it but I reserve the right to whip it out on special occasions.

I bet you say that to all the boys.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 08, 2021, 09:57:47 AM
Send the songs you think TAC will enjoy most :tup

But Iron Maiden isn't allowed
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 08, 2021, 10:11:35 AM
if you made PT a PT/SW general round i'd probably change my submission because i can think of A steven wilson song you'd rather receive over the PT i sent
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 10:17:40 AM
if you made PT a PT/SW general round i'd probably change my submission because i can think of A steven wilson song you'd rather receive over the PT i sent

Probably leaning that way.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 08, 2021, 10:26:52 AM
BTW, the correct answer to your thread title is "nothing.  Pretty much nothing".
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 08, 2021, 10:47:29 AM
We could also turn this around and try to win by losing. Pick the most un-TAC tracks for every artist and go for the lowest score. Not to mention his commentary.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on November 08, 2021, 10:56:37 AM
We could also turn this around and try to win by losing. Pick the most un-TAC tracks for every artist and go for the lowest score. Not to mention his commentary.  :biggrin:

Oh man, I would be curious to see TAC's reaction to songs like Collapse the Light Into Earth and Half-Light!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 08, 2021, 11:19:05 AM
We could also turn this around and try to win by losing. Pick the most un-TAC tracks for every artist and go for the lowest score. Not to mention his commentary.  :biggrin:

Oh man, I would be curious to see TAC's reaction to songs like Collapse the Light Into Earth and Half-Light!

"Sucks and blows. 6/10"
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 08, 2021, 11:30:39 AM
We could also turn this around and try to win by losing. Pick the most un-TAC tracks for every artist and go for the lowest score. Not to mention his commentary.  :biggrin:

Oh man, I would be curious to see TAC's reaction to songs like Collapse the Light Into Earth and Half-Light!

"Sucks and blows. 6/10"

I think you forgot the minus part before the 6.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 08, 2021, 11:40:40 AM
Sent!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 08, 2021, 11:50:38 AM
We could also turn this around and try to win by losing. Pick the most un-TAC tracks for every artist and go for the lowest score. Not to mention his commentary.  :biggrin:

Oh man, I would be curious to see TAC's reaction to songs like Collapse the Light Into Earth and Half-Light!

"Sucks and blows. 6/10"

I think you forgot the minus part before the 6.

So whoever is able to score slightly above zero wins this thing?  :D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 08, 2021, 12:05:54 PM
Above zero? I expect all the scores to be negative, like in the Winger round.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 12:25:37 PM
Alright! I'm home from work. Time to start rouletting.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 12:31:31 PM
Alright! I'm home from work. Time to start rouletting.

I'll send in a couple of hours.

I'm realising even though I have a few of his albums, I really don't like his stuff at all.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 12:41:26 PM
I have 13 of the 17 submissions in.

Waiting on Stadler
Wolfking
Ariich
425


Listing not to shame, but just to double check in case I missed someone.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 08, 2021, 12:56:34 PM
You go to da box for 2 minutes, ya know, by yourself...you feel shame...and then you get free.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 01:07:36 PM
Three people used Wild Cards. Yay, I get to eliminate three songs right away! ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 01:20:42 PM
Sent.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 01:32:23 PM
Tim, you really are gonna regret doing this.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 01:39:52 PM
Tim, you really are gonna regret doing this.  :lol

Gonna? :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 01:41:02 PM


Waiting on
Stadler
Wolfking

Ariich
425

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 08, 2021, 01:50:05 PM
Sent!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 02:04:52 PM


Waiting on
Stadler
Wolfking

Ariich
425

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 08, 2021, 02:31:41 PM
<shining fisheye voice> 4 2 5
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Ruba on November 08, 2021, 02:48:44 PM
Yeah I only really like BTBAM and Strapping Young Lad out of these. I might like Mastodon and some Devin solo stuff but haven't really gotten around to them.

Still, following.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 03:05:38 PM
Listening through a bit of Haken.  Fuck this band is awful.  Tim might quit the forum with what he's about to put himself through.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 03:11:41 PM
Listening through a bit of Haken.  Fuck this band is awful.  Tim might quit the forum with what he's about to put himself through.

Hah!

I only have a handful of Devin tracks left, but a lot of this is pretty decent.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 08, 2021, 03:13:23 PM
Listening through a bit of Haken.  Fuck this band is awful.  Tim might quit the forum with what he's about to put himself through.

Lol. What did you listen to?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 03:14:31 PM
Listening through a bit of Haken.  Fuck this band is awful.  Tim might quit the forum with what he's about to put himself through.

Lol. What did you listen to?

Everything I'm sampling on Youtube blows hard.  I just hate their sound, makes me want to puke.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 03:17:15 PM
Alright, I slightly take that back.  I found one song which is actually listenable.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 03:19:14 PM
 :lol

Now you need to find another. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 08, 2021, 03:24:53 PM
pro-tip @wolf don't listen to anything haken put out after 2013
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 03:33:10 PM
pro-tip @wolf don't listen to anything haken put out after 2013

The only decent song I've found came out after that.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 03:33:25 PM
:lol

Now you need to find another. :lol

Couldn't find one.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 03:33:55 PM
Sent for round 2.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Sacul on November 08, 2021, 03:34:37 PM
Damn didn't see this thread yesterday :lol

I may have joined but then I don't care about Coheed and most of Opeth so, good luck folks :corn :corn :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 03:35:01 PM
Sent for round 2.

Sent it back. ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 03:37:51 PM
Sent for round 2.

Sent it back. ;D

Motherfucker!!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 08, 2021, 03:43:00 PM
I like enough Haken that they won’t be a problem. BTBAM and Coheed are gonna be tough for me.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 03:44:02 PM
Me too.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 08, 2021, 03:53:14 PM
I should retrospectively knock 10 points of Kade's score from my last roulette for his terrible opinions on Haken. :P
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 03:56:14 PM
I should retrospectively knock 10 points of Kade's score from my last roulette for his terrible opinions on Haken. :P

I'll do it myself if it means I don't have to listen to them again!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 08, 2021, 04:16:51 PM
I should retrospectively knock 10 points of Kade's score from my last roulette for his terrible opinions on Haken. :P

I'll do it myself if it means I don't have to listen to them again!

TAC in training.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 08, 2021, 04:20:37 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/fykZSKDD/Twins1988.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 08, 2021, 04:22:23 PM
<shining fisheye voice> 4 2 5

I'll get to it in the next couple of hours, okay?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 08, 2021, 04:33:35 PM
pro-tip @wolf don't listen to anything haken put out after 2013

The only decent song I've found came out after that.
Tragic
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 08, 2021, 05:02:31 PM
Listening through a bit of Haken.  Fuck this band is awful.  Tim might quit the forum with what he's about to put himself through.

Lol. What did you listen to?

Everything I'm sampling on Youtube blows hard.  I just hate their sound, makes me want to puke.

That's me with Leprous
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 05:09:07 PM
I forgot about Leprous. I've actually given them some extended listening.

One band that I was considering was Nightwish.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 08, 2021, 05:18:31 PM
One band that I was considering was Nightwish.
i'm very glad you didn't consider them harder
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 08, 2021, 05:21:34 PM
I would have managed fine if Once was allowed but that's the only album of theirs I actually like.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 08, 2021, 05:21:56 PM
I forgot about Leprous. I've actually given them some extended listening.

One band that I was considering was Nightwish.

This would have been favorable for me. Oh well.

Sent.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 05:34:01 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/fykZSKDD/Twins1988.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Wait, Tim is Arnie and I'm Devito??
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 08, 2021, 05:34:52 PM
He is running the roulette soooooo...
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 05:35:04 PM
Listening through a bit of Haken.  Fuck this band is awful.  Tim might quit the forum with what he's about to put himself through.

Lol. What did you listen to?

Everything I'm sampling on Youtube blows hard.  I just hate their sound, makes me want to puke.

That's me with Leprous

Pretty much the same feelings with them too.  They are better than Haken though.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 05:35:29 PM
He is running the roulette soooooo...

I am 6'2" though haha!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 08, 2021, 05:42:47 PM
Leprous and Haken were both very good for a few albums then got boring later imo

New-Haken is better than New-Leprous overall but not by much
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 08, 2021, 05:56:40 PM
Tim, you are an evil genius ... making people listen to music they hate.  Although, you're subjecting yourself to it as well.

Devy had some gems throughout his library - I actually ended up buying 4-5 albums when the discography discussion thread was going in with him.  There's a limit to how much 'wall-of-sound' one can take, but in some amounts of moderation, it's pretty good.

Best of luck to you listening to 17 tracks a day of him for a week.  Sounds like torture to me.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 08, 2021, 06:01:45 PM
Best of luck to you listening to 17 tracks a day of him for a week.  Sounds like torture to me.  :lol
could be up to 34, actually :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 06:03:40 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/fykZSKDD/Twins1988.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Wait, Tim is Arnie and I'm Devito??

I'm an expert at rest and recovery!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 06:07:25 PM
Tim, you are an evil genius ... making people listen to music they hate.  Although, you're subjecting yourself to it as well.

Devy had some gems throughout his library - I actually ended up buying 4-5 albums when the discography discussion thread was going in with him.  There's a limit to how much 'wall-of-sound' one can take, but in some amounts of moderation, it's pretty good.

Best of luck to you listening to 17 tracks a day of him for a week.  Sounds like torture to me.  :lol

Well, it's 29 tracks. I'll break out some stats in a bit.

Seems every youtube video I ever checked out of his was a wall of sound. There is some wall of sound present, but not nearly as much as expected. This playlist has a ton of variety.

425 just sent added 17 fucking minutes to the playlist.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 08, 2021, 06:09:06 PM
He is running the roulette soooooo...

I am 6'2" though haha!

Also, he said he hated Haken 1st. Lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 06:09:58 PM
Roulette Update



I have made to amendments to the OP.

For Round 7, I have made it a Porcupine Tree/Steven Wilson round.
Send me on PT and one SW song.


Also, Instrumentals are barred in all rounds.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 06:10:45 PM
He is running the roulette soooooo...

I am 6'2" though haha!

A strapping young lad!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 08, 2021, 06:11:33 PM
425 just sent added 17 fucking minutes to the playlist.

Sorry  :angel:

I'll be nice on the Neal Morse round and not send an epic.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 06:12:21 PM
425 just sent added 17 fucking minutes to the playlist.

Sorry  :angel:

I'll be nice on the Neal Morse round and not send an epic.

I've already been threatened with that by someone else, and I told Stadler to forget it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 08, 2021, 06:14:38 PM
Screw you buddy. Full on epics.  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 06:15:19 PM
Full on zeros!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 08, 2021, 06:17:56 PM
Screw you buddy. Full on epics.  ;D

World Without End (33:39)
Beyond the Borders (31:23)

Easy -10/10
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 06:20:13 PM
Your negative score will be beyond the borders and without end.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 06:29:44 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/fykZSKDD/Twins1988.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Wait, Tim is Arnie and I'm Devito??

I'm an expert at rest and recovery!

He is running the roulette soooooo...

I am 6'2" though haha!

A strapping young lad!

Ha! You win!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 08, 2021, 06:30:10 PM
 :lol

Remember you need me bub. Lolol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 08, 2021, 06:30:39 PM
Your negative score will be beyond the borders and without end.

:lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 08, 2021, 06:34:50 PM
 :rollin

Ahhh, Tim's roulettes are always a good time........At least for the participants...
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 06:39:21 PM
Round 1 Stats!

29 songs
3 hours


3 songs.. Strapping Young Lad
15...Devin Townsend Project
4...Devin Townsend Band
7...Devin Townsend


3 people used their Wild Cards
It was pretty easy to eliminate one song

2 people used live versions of a couple of songs that two other people used the studio versions
One of them enhanced the song and one of them didn't.

1 song was sent by three different people

There were a handful of songs sent by two people.

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 08, 2021, 06:41:50 PM
I'm going to guess that Deadhead was sent by 3 people. And it's also the song that someone sent the live version. Maybe
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 08, 2021, 06:42:31 PM
Speaking of live versions, I meant to ask last night if you were cool with receiving live versions. Oh well...
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 06:47:05 PM
I suck at reading.  Was thinking Deadhead was banned but it's Earth Day.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 06:47:36 PM
I'm surprised only 3 SYL songs.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 08, 2021, 06:51:41 PM
I'm surprised only 3 SYL songs.
If I had to guess, I suspect someone sent Almost Again.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 06:56:06 PM
I suck at reading.  Was thinking Deadhead was banned but it's Earth Day.

Earth Day might've been one of the worst songs sent in that roulette. :lol



I'm going to guess that Deadhead was sent by 3 people. And it's also the song that someone sent the live version. Maybe

No and no. It was sent by two people however.

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 06:58:08 PM
If you guys want a hangman, I can do it, but I'm not doing it until I get home from work tomorrow....2:30pm Boston time.

I suspect the songs would be easy to figure out.

I can post First Impressions though.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 07:11:40 PM
If you guys want a hangman, I can do it, but I'm not doing it until I get home from work tomorrow....2:30pm Boston time.

I suspect the songs would be easy to figure out.

I can post First Impressions though.

What about this.  How many songs 34?  We all collate on 34 guesses of songs and see how many we can pick.  See how well we know each other.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 07:12:02 PM
Cause, this is my roulette, no?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 07:17:09 PM
Cause, this is my roulette, no?

You can have it! :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 07:20:14 PM
What about this.  How many songs 34? 



Round 1 Stats!

29 songs


 ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 07:21:42 PM
Ok, I'll shutup now!!  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 08, 2021, 07:36:35 PM
Roulette Update



I have made to amendments to the OP.

Also, Instrumentals are barred in all rounds.

That’s a shame. Haken are better without the vocals.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 07:37:41 PM
I know that. You know that.

Every band in this roulette is better without vocals.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 08, 2021, 08:15:45 PM
i mean it'd be pretty easy to solve a single-artist hangman given just a few letters tbh but you can try it  :P
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 08, 2021, 08:21:21 PM
I know that. You know that.

Every band in this roulette is better without vocals.

Legit question: Do both Neal Morse songs have to have him on lead vocals? There are a few songs on the Neal Morse Band albums where other band members sing, but not him, and some where he sings harmony but no leads.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 08, 2021, 08:22:37 PM
Can we send Transatlantic for Morse? Asking for 15 friends.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..What Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 08:23:20 PM
I know that. You know that.

Every band in this roulette is better without vocals.

Legit question: Do both Neal Morse songs have to have him on lead vocals? There are a few songs on the Neal Morse Band albums where other band members sing, but not him (and some where he sings harmony but no leads).

Yes. They must have Neal on vocals. That is kind of the whole point. :)

Please don't tell me MP is singing.. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 08:24:38 PM
Can we send Transatlantic for Morse? Asking for 15 friends.

Tell your 15 friends that there's no Transatlantic round, so no. ;D

Neal Morse or Neal Morse Band only. With Neil singing.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 08, 2021, 08:25:42 PM
MP does occasional leads, but two of the other band members do more substantial leads than MP. I guess a follow-up would be how much of the song he has to sing (there are a lot of songs, for example, where somebody else sings the verse and he does the chorus), but I imagine it's "a significant amount" and I should just use my best judgment.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 08, 2021, 08:28:29 PM
oh yeah if transatlantic is allowed then i don't have to do research  :metal (i don't think TAC would like much transatlantic based on what i'm familiar with but still :2metal:)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 08:30:17 PM
MP does occasional leads, but two of the other band members do more substantial leads than MP. I guess a follow-up would be how much of the song he has to sing (there are a lot of songs, for example, where somebody else sings the verse and he does the chorus), but I imagine it's "a significant amount" and I should just use my best judgment.


I'd prefer him singing most of the song. I'm trying to learn about Neal Morse. 75% Neal at a minimum.




oh yeah if transatlantic is allowed then i don't have to do research  :metal (i don't think TAC would like much transatlantic based on what i'm familiar with but still :2metal:)

Transatlantic is not allowed, so plan on that research.  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 08, 2021, 08:30:39 PM
Can we send Transatlantic for Morse? Asking for 15 friends.

Tell your 15 friends that there's no Transatlantic round, so no. ;D

Neal Morse or Neal Morse Band only. With Neil singing.

Ok, I was just asking since you're allowing Spocks....but it's your roulette jefe. Off to randomly pick two NMB songs since I don't know shit about his discography.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 08:32:24 PM
Did you just call me Jeffy?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 08, 2021, 08:33:03 PM
TAC you didn’t have to make one solo Steven Wilson song a requirement… I can already tell you’re gonna regret that. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 08:33:32 PM
TAC you didn’t have to make one solo Steven Wilson song a requirement… I can already tell you’re gonna regret that. :lol

I'm regretting it either way. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 08, 2021, 08:35:19 PM
Did you just call me Jeffy?
Nah, this is a topic for a different thread  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 08:38:58 PM
The Family Circus Thread?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 08, 2021, 11:06:21 PM
Yikes. That PT/SW curveball is a real problem. I never would have dreamed of sending solo SW. Was just going through my stuff and the best song that I could find (that would probably get the least hate) is an instrumental, which are banned. You are really going to hate that round.

Otherwise, I think I just have Opeth, Mastodon and NM to curate. Everything else is good to go. Killing my favorite Mastodon album (CTS) bummed me out. Plus, I think I saw you mention that you thought all the vocals were terrible regarding Hushed and Grim. Really encouraging, as that is the best I think all 3 have sounded vocally. Brann has been pretty stable. Troy has really improved, especially if you listen to his work in Gone Is Gone and Killer Be Killed. Brent has always sounded like he was trying to gargle water while singing, except for the new album where I thought he actually sounded pretty good.

Oof.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 11:18:27 PM
Yeah, Tim is a sucker for pain taking out PT and replacing with SW. 
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 08, 2021, 11:26:35 PM
The only solo SW album I particularly like has almost all long songs so... I'm either sending The Pin Drop or just going for maximum suffering.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2021, 11:27:41 PM
I don't want to listen through SW songs to try and pick something.  Haken this morning was traumatic enough.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 09, 2021, 02:41:57 AM
Am I the only one in this entire roulette who has absolutely no problem picking out two songs for every single artist in the OP? :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2021, 03:19:24 AM
Ok. So how about this? You may send one SW song in lieu of a PT song. If you want to send TWO PT songs, that is fine.



OP has been updated.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 09, 2021, 04:01:46 AM
Tim, that is a smart, smart move.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 09, 2021, 04:50:33 AM
Tim, that is a smart, smart move.

SmartER

Nothing about this roulette is smart.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 09, 2021, 07:02:17 AM
Am I the only one in this entire roulette who has absolutely no problem picking out two songs for every single artist in the OP? :lol

I have no issue with picking songs from each artist. Though to be honest, I am trying to stay away from songs I believe others will send as well, we will see how I do  :)

Question, when do we send songs for each round? is it weekly? (Sorry, first time playing)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Stadler on November 09, 2021, 08:31:18 AM
I've sent my Devin and Neal Morse, and everything after that is going to be torture.  I have no real like for any of the other bands and will embark on a similar journey to my man Tim, hoping to find two songs I like enough to share.  Not holding my breath.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 09, 2021, 08:42:29 AM
I've sent my Devin and Neal Morse, and everything after that is going to be torture.  I have no real like for any of the other bands and will embark on a similar journey to my man Tim, hoping to find two songs I like enough to share.  Not holding my breath.

And herein lies the evil genius of TAC.  So genius in fact, he outsmarted himself.

Ya'll enjoy that torture.  This is gonna be a common reaction / facial expression on many of you for the rest of the year

(http://replygif.net/i/1300.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 09, 2021, 08:54:08 AM
I like Devin Townsend, Haken, Neal Morse, Opeth and Porcupine Tree, I like at least one record from Mastodon that isn't banned, I've listened to some BTBAM, it didn't leave an inpression but I didn't hate it either. I know nothing from Coheed, may have heard a song here or there but don't remember a thing.

I'm pretty sure I won't be tortured.  :D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2021, 09:07:50 AM
Am I the only one in this entire roulette who has absolutely no problem picking out two songs for every single artist in the OP? :lol

I have no issue with picking songs from each artist. Though to be honest, I am trying to stay away from songs I believe others will send as well, we will see how I do  :)

Question, when do we send songs for each round? is it weekly? (Sorry, first time playing)

You can send whenever you’re comfortable with your choices.

I am planning to have results on Fridays so if you could send for the following round no later than Monday of the following week.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 09, 2021, 09:20:04 AM
Can we send Transatlantic for Morse? Asking for 15 friends.

Tell your 15 friends that there's no Transatlantic round, so no. ;D

Neal Morse or Neal Morse Band only. With Neil singing.

Um. I was going to roll the dice for Neal Morse, how am I supposed to know if it's Neal singing? :lol

Guess I'll ask you guys here since it wouldn't do to use Google in Tim's roulette.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 09, 2021, 09:37:03 AM
Can we send Transatlantic for Morse? Asking for 15 friends.

Tell your 15 friends that there's no Transatlantic round, so no. ;D

Neal Morse or Neal Morse Band only. With Neil singing.

Um. I was going to roll the dice for Neal Morse, how am I supposed to know if it's Neal singing? :lol

Guess I'll ask you guys here since it wouldn't do to use Google in Tim's roulette.

If it’s Neal Morse solo it’s going to be him singing (there are a few guest spots here and there I suppose). He has a pretty distinctive voice so once you’ve heard it you’ll know it’s him.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 09, 2021, 09:49:04 AM
I love all the bands, except for BTBAM whom I just don't know, so picking 2 songs would normally be easy. The problem is putting myself in Tim's headspace. Would he say this song sucks or blows or sucks and blows and which would be more preferable to him?

Like with Devin, I purposely avoided wall of sound songs since I had a feeling he would not like those. I am also trying to avoid 'popular' songs for an artist to avoid overlap, yet still trying to find something that he won't completely carpet bomb. Certainly adds some thought to the process.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 09, 2021, 09:54:15 AM
Can we send Transatlantic for Morse? Asking for 15 friends.

Tell your 15 friends that there's no Transatlantic round, so no. ;D

Neal Morse or Neal Morse Band only. With Neil singing.

Um. I was going to roll the dice for Neal Morse, how am I supposed to know if it's Neal singing? :lol

Guess I'll ask you guys here since it wouldn't do to use Google in Tim's roulette.

You can PM me if you want. Neal solo is going to be him singing unless it's an instrumental. Neal Morse Band it's more complicated, and a lot of songs might not hit this 75% threshold, so if you're trying to take the easy way, stick with Neal solo.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 09, 2021, 09:57:39 AM
I don't want to roll a d6 so I'm definitely including NMB!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 09, 2021, 10:05:40 AM
I've sent my Devin and Neal Morse, and everything after that is going to be torture.  I have no real like for any of the other bands and will embark on a similar journey to my man Tim, hoping to find two songs I like enough to share.  Not holding my breath.

And herein lies the evil genius of TAC.  So genius in fact, he outsmarted himself.

Ya'll enjoy that torture.  This is gonna be a common reaction / facial expression on many of you for the rest of the year

(http://replygif.net/i/1300.gif)

Actually none of this I actively dislike completely. I enjoy the latter Opeth, C&C is cool from what I've heard, no issues with either NM or Mastodon. I just don't know any of their material very well
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2021, 12:27:52 PM
Round 1 Solved Hangman!


Lonestar
Supercrush!
Addicted!

Kingshmegland
Stormbending
Where We Belong

Vmadera00
Kingdom
Life

Romdrums
Almost Again
Kingdom(Live)

Kwyjibo
Funeral
Planet Smasher

HOF
Life
Funeral

Buddy
Addicted!
Skesis


Puppies
Deadhead
Failure

Cyril
Stand
Sumeria


Elite
Poltergeist
Regulator

LudwigVan
Deadhead
Traveller

Evermind
Failure
March Of The Poozers

Professor Peart
Suicide
Deep Peace

Wolfking
Poltergeist
Love?

Stadler
Deep Peace (Live)
Bend It Like Bender!

Ariich
Vampira
Failure

425
Higher
From The Heart
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2021, 12:28:18 PM
Will post some First Impressions shortly.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 09, 2021, 12:39:37 PM
i see two Funeral submissions and like

you're not wrong, but also, that's a bold pick for TAC  :lol

also i was right to use my wildcard 'cause I was pretty unsure about Angel for you in particular lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2021, 12:42:03 PM
I was pretty unsure about it too. ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 09, 2021, 12:42:26 PM
i see two Funeral submissions and like

you're not wrong, but also, that's a bold pick for TAC  :lol

also i was right to use my wildcard 'cause I was pretty unsure about Angel for you in particular lol

Heh, I have no idea what TAC likes other than it’s usually the opposite of what I like. I listened to Ocean Machine the other morning for the first time and picked out what seemed to be the two strongest songs. Will not be surprised by a low score!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 09, 2021, 12:43:16 PM
also failure being the song sent three times is interesting alright
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 09, 2021, 12:49:02 PM
Not surprised someone else submitted Kingdom. Life I was not expecting someone else to submit.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 09, 2021, 12:51:11 PM
Alright, time to shit talk everyone's submission.

Lonestar: Nice. I sent Addicted as well and that's one of my all-time favorites of his, so good job. :metal I find Supercrush to be a tad overrated and I wouldn't have sent two songs from the same album, but it's still a good song so you get a pass.

King: Stormbending is a nice pick; that's my favorite from Transcendence. Where We Belong is good too, but out of his entire discography... meh. At least TAC is getting more poppy songs which he probably won't like. :lol

Vmadera: Kingdom's extremely predictable, but TAC had to get it from at least someone. Life.... nah, he has better songs like that.

Romdrums: TAC might like Almost Again, but I've never been too into it myself. Kingdom again, no surprise there. Moving along.

Kwyjibo: Planet Smasher is a bizarre choice but Funeral is amazing so you're forgiven. Too bad TAC probably won't like it.

HOF: See above.

Buddy: No problems here! :metal :metal :metal :neverusethis:

Puppies: Two real slow-paced numbers here... is TAC going to stay awake through both of these? :biggrin: Both good songs, but I wouldn't have even considered Failure out of his entire discography.

Cyril: Two Deconstruction songs? Yeah, that checks out.

Elite: Both fine songs, but TAC will think Poltergeist is too heavy and Regulator is too boring. :lol

Ludwig: Traveller has a great chorus but that song has always felt borderline unfinished to me. To channel TAC a bit, the verse kinda blows.

Evermind: Poozers is a good pick, but multiple people sent Failure? Why tho?

Prof Peart: Suicide is an unexpected but solid pick. Deep Peace is a nice contrast too.

Wolfking: Not sure if TAC will be able to handle this, but props for trying. ;D

Stadler: Called Deep Peace. Figured Secret Sciences would be the other one. I do like me some Bend It Like Bender though.

Ariich: THREE people sent Failure? What the fuck.

425: Higher is okay but From The Heart? This ain't it, chief.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 09, 2021, 12:55:23 PM
also failure being the song sent three times is interesting alright
Definitely, and I'm one of those who sent it. I honestly had no clue whether my picks would be typical or unique.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 09, 2021, 12:56:59 PM
honestly surprised nobody else sent any of the three songs i did
y'all sending TAC this slow pretty stuff are weird. hence why the PT round is gonna be a disaster  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2021, 01:01:51 PM
Excellent analysis Buddy! :lol


Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 09, 2021, 01:05:09 PM
Excellent analysis Buddy! :lol

Alright, time for round 2!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on November 09, 2021, 01:08:31 PM
With those submissions, I should've gone with All Hail the New Flesh and Oh My Fucking God. :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2021, 01:12:08 PM
So what I'm going to do is First Impressions for one song from each guy.

You'll notice there's only 12 Impressions for 17 players, but that's because there's some repeats.
I'm sorry if some of these are vague. I'll do it Ariich style where if you can pick two and one is yours, I'll give it to you.


This was actually pretty nice to start  but damn it lingers

I was finding the song a bit slow going, but the instrumental passage to close the song is outstanding.

It’s Deaf Forever’s riff. Nice poppy track.

Really nice. Excellent chorus. Cool guitar. Nice.

Cool driving rhythms. Frenetic pace to this.

Wow, that’s a powerful song, but it does test your patience.

Was thinking this was a bit wanky but that guitar solo is nails.

Decent enough tune. Will it stand out?

Really strong vocals for the early verses.  This song is really thick, but good.

This is the Keep It In The Family riff! Driving track for sure.

Nice enough but not very exciting, though it “grands up” for the second half.

This isn’t the Rush Round.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on November 09, 2021, 01:20:20 PM

Cool driving rhythms. Frenetic pace to this.

Wow, that’s a powerful song, but it does test your patience.


The first is Almost Again, and the second is Kingdom.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 09, 2021, 01:37:45 PM
honestly surprised nobody else sent any of the three songs i did
y'all sending TAC this slow pretty stuff are weird. hence why the PT round is gonna be a disaster  :lol

yeah, that's why you me had the same idea to go with Deconstruction tunes. That said, Stand is pretty 'slow' as well. I almost send Pandemic :lol

Good call, wolfdude, on Poltergeist as well :metardica: at least I have an unique song in Regulator, which I love personally, so TAC can hate it if he wants.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 09, 2021, 01:38:42 PM
This has to be me. Lol

This isn’t the Rush Round
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 09, 2021, 01:40:15 PM
Kwyjibo: Planet Smasher is a bizarre choice but Funeral is amazing so you're forgiven. Too bad TAC probably won't like it.

I really like Ziltoid and if you skip the intro, Plant Smasher is a smasher of a metal song.   :metal

And because of my wild card TAC chose this over Regulator. So let's see how that works out for Elite. :D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 09, 2021, 01:41:39 PM
That said, Stand is pretty 'slow' as well. I almost send Pandemic :lol
stand is "slow" in a "march" sort of way where the riffs are still gonna kick your teeth out anyways
it's certainly not "pretty" lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 09, 2021, 01:44:59 PM
That said, Stand is pretty 'slow' as well. I almost send Pandemic :lol
stand is "slow" in a "march" sort of way where the riffs are still gonna kick your teeth out anyways
it's certainly not "pretty" lol
I wouldn't call Failure pretty either, but it is slow and kind of brooding (but also kind of epic, which was why I thought Tim might rather like it).
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Stadler on November 09, 2021, 01:52:27 PM
I'm hoping mine is one of these:

Really strong vocals for the early verses.  This song is really thick, but good.
Nice enough but not very exciting, though it “grands up” for the second half.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2021, 02:00:04 PM
I'm hoping mine is one of these:

Really strong vocals for the early verses.  This song is really thick, but good.
Nice enough but not very exciting, though it “grands up” for the second half.

No. You should be ashamed. For you, I couldn't make it more obvious. Listen to it again!


This has to be me. Lol

This isn’t the Rush Round

You wish.



Cool driving rhythms. Frenetic pace to this.

Wow, that’s a powerful song, but it does test your patience.


The first is Almost Again, and the second is Kingdom.

No and No.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 09, 2021, 02:04:16 PM
Powerful song that tests your patience?

or

Decent enough tune, will it stand out?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2021, 02:05:12 PM
No. ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: LudwigVan on November 09, 2021, 02:11:41 PM
Wow. This is like a giant cock tease.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 09, 2021, 02:13:26 PM
Wow. TAC is like a giant cock tease.

FTFY :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2021, 02:17:03 PM
Wow. This is like a giant cock tease.

Correct! But that's definitely not one of the impressions. :lol


Let me help three of you..



This was actually pretty nice to start  but damn it lingers

I was finding the song a bit slow going, but the instrumental passage to close the song is outstanding.

It’s Deaf Forever’s riff. Nice poppy track.

Really nice. Excellent chorus. Cool guitar. Nice. [Failure-Puppies, Ariich, Evermind]

Cool driving rhythms. Frenetic pace to this.

Wow, that’s a powerful song, but it does test your patience.

Was thinking this was a bit wanky but that guitar solo is nails.

Decent enough tune. Will it stand out?

Really strong vocals for the early verses.  This song is really thick, but good.

This is the Keep It In The Family riff! Driving track for sure.[Addicted!-Buddy, Lonestar]

Nice enough but not very exciting, though it “grands up” for the second half.

This isn’t the Rush Round.

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 09, 2021, 02:43:02 PM
huh. guess the failure-inators were right  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2021, 02:57:36 PM
Let me help a little more.

The songs in this group are:

Bend It Like Bender!
Failure
Poltergeist
Almost Again
Kingdom
Where We Belong
Traveller
Funeral
From The Heart.
Stand
Deep Peace
Addicted!

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 09, 2021, 03:18:18 PM
huh. guess the failure-inators were right  :lol

perhaps we are the failures
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 09, 2021, 03:19:34 PM
It’s Deaf Forever’s riff. Nice poppy track.
This is the Keep It In The Family riff! Driving track for sure.

One of these is probably Addicted. I dunno what either of those riffs are. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 09, 2021, 03:26:00 PM
i looked up the two songs, pretty sure Stand is the "Keep It In The Family" riff
Deaf Forever I could see being a few of the addicted tracks tbh it definitely correlates
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2021, 03:26:15 PM
It’s Deaf Forever’s riff. Nice poppy track.
This is the Keep It In The Family riff! Driving track for sure.

One of these is probably Addicted. I dunno what either of those riffs are. :biggrin:

Keep It In The Family is an Anthrax song. And YES!

Deaf Forever is Motorhead.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 09, 2021, 03:31:21 PM
honestly surprised nobody else sent any of the three songs i did
y'all sending TAC this slow pretty stuff are weird. hence why the PT round is gonna be a disaster  :lol

yeah, that's why you me had the same idea to go with Deconstruction tunes. That said, Stand is pretty 'slow' as well. I almost send Pandemic :lol

Good call, wolfdude, on Poltergeist as well :metardica: at least I have an unique song in Regulator, which I love personally, so TAC can hate it if he wants.

Yeah, Poltergeist is excellent.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 09, 2021, 03:31:46 PM
The test your patience one?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2021, 03:51:27 PM
The test your patience one?

NO ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 09, 2021, 04:45:54 PM
All of the impressions are about Failure
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2021, 05:19:42 PM
No more guesses??
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 09, 2021, 05:25:20 PM
Fuck dude some of us are working. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 09, 2021, 05:31:58 PM
This was actually pretty nice to start  but damn it lingers - Almost Again

I was finding the song a bit slow going, but the instrumental passage to close the song is outstanding. - From The Heart

It’s Deaf Forever’s riff. Nice poppy track. - Bender

Cool driving rhythms. Frenetic pace to this. - Poltergeist

Wow, that’s a powerful song, but it does test your patience. - Funeral

Was thinking this was a bit wanky but that guitar solo is nails. - Deep Peace

Decent enough tune. Will it stand out? - Where We Belong

Really strong vocals for the early verses.  This song is really thick, but good. - Kingdom

Nice enough but not very exciting, though it “grands up” for the second half. - Stand

This isn’t the Rush Round. - Traveller


how'd I do
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 09, 2021, 05:54:07 PM
Either the driving rhythms or the one about being thick.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2021, 06:10:30 PM


I was finding the song a bit slow going, but the instrumental passage to close the song is outstanding. - From The Heart

It’s Deaf Forever’s riff. Nice poppy track. - Bender

Cool driving rhythms. Frenetic pace to this. - Poltergeist

Wow, that’s a powerful song, but it does test your patience. - Funeral

Was thinking this was a bit wanky but that guitar solo is nails. - Deep Peace

Really strong vocals for the early verses.  This song is really thick, but good. - Kingdom

This isn’t the Rush Round. - Traveller


how'd I do

Pretty damned good!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2021, 06:14:00 PM



I was finding the song a bit slow going, but the instrumental passage to close the song is outstanding.[From The Heart-425]

It’s Deaf Forever’s riff. Nice poppy track. (Bend It Like Bender-Stadler]

Really nice. Excellent chorus. Cool guitar. Nice.[Failure-Puppies, Ariich, Evermind]

Cool driving rhythms. Frenetic pace to this.[Poltergeist-Elite, Wolfking]

Was thinking this was a bit wanky but that guitar solo is nails. [Deep Peace-Professor Peart]

Really strong vocals for the early verses.  This song is really thick, but good.[Kingdom-VMadera]

This is the Keep It In The Family riff! Driving track for sure.[Addicted!-Buddy, Lonestar]

This isn’t the Rush Round. [Traveller-LudwigVan]




Wow, that’s a powerful song, but it does test your patience.

Decent enough tune. Will it stand out?

Nice enough but not very exciting, though it “grands up” for the second half.

This was actually pretty nice to start  but damn it lingers
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 09, 2021, 06:19:12 PM
Decent enough tune. Will it stand out?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2021, 06:20:07 PM
No..
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 09, 2021, 06:20:50 PM
 :censored
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 09, 2021, 07:09:59 PM
The funny thing about this round is I initially had about 30 songs on my list to potentially send. Then I used my wildcard. The song that was chucked was Bastard. I'm a little surprised no one else sent that.

I agree Funeral is kind of a weird pick for TAC, but who knows...

Vampira is a cool pick, although it might be a bit too crazy for TAC.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 09, 2021, 07:14:49 PM
I'd be surprised if Tim likes Vampira.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 09, 2021, 07:17:51 PM
Guess I should have sent The Mighty Masterbator.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2021, 07:27:42 PM
Vampira is a cool pick, although it might be a bit too crazy for TAC.

I'd be surprised if Tim likes Vampira.


 :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2021, 07:30:01 PM
I've sent my Devin and Neal Morse, and everything after that is going to be torture.  I have no real like for any of the other bands and will embark on a similar journey to my man Tim, hoping to find two songs I like enough to share.  Not holding my breath.

And herein lies the evil genius of TAC.  So genius in fact, he outsmarted himself.

Ya'll enjoy that torture.  This is gonna be a common reaction / facial expression on many of you for the rest of the year

(http://replygif.net/i/1300.gif)

You could've played too!

(https://adhdembrace.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/121107584-1536x864.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 09, 2021, 07:54:40 PM
 :lol

Bugger, I literally thought Chad signed up for this.  A shame.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 09, 2021, 07:57:23 PM
Chad in this thread.

(https://i.postimg.cc/sft8wc12/TMS-Statler-Waldorf-Balcony-Box.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 09, 2021, 08:00:15 PM
Chad in this thread.

(https://i.postimg.cc/sft8wc12/TMS-Statler-Waldorf-Balcony-Box.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

#fact
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2021, 08:05:01 PM
Chad in this thread.

(https://i.postimg.cc/sft8wc12/TMS-Statler-Waldorf-Balcony-Box.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)



Chadler!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: v_clortho on November 09, 2021, 08:41:52 PM
Guess I should have sent The Mighty Masterbator.

You should have. Great song.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 09, 2021, 08:42:24 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/5tlztr.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 09, 2021, 08:45:44 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/5tm05h.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2021, 08:46:40 PM
Masta Don? That's racist!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2021, 08:51:02 PM
Here are the first set of First Impressions. I'll post the second set first thing in the morning.



I was finding the song a bit slow going, but the instrumental passage to close the song is outstanding.[From The Heart-425]

It’s Deaf Forever’s riff. Nice poppy track. (Bend It Like Bender-Stadler]

Really nice. Excellent chorus. Cool guitar. Nice.[Failure-Puppies, Ariich, Evermind]

Cool driving rhythms. Frenetic pace to this.[Poltergeist-Elite, Wolfking]

Was thinking this was a bit wanky but that guitar solo is nails. [Deep Peace-Professor Peart]

Really strong vocals for the early verses.  This song is really thick, but good.[Kingdom-VMadera]

This is the Keep It In The Family riff! Driving track for sure.[Addicted!-Buddy, Lonestar]

This isn’t the Rush Round. [Traveller-LudwigVan]

Wow, that’s a powerful song, but it does test your patience.[Stand-Cyril]

Decent enough tune. Will it stand out?[Almost Again-Romdrums]

Nice enough but not very exciting, though it “grands up” for the second half.[Where We Belong-Kingshmegland]

This was actually pretty nice to start but damn it lingers[Funeral-Kwyjibo, HOF]
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 09, 2021, 10:12:25 PM
Mastadon!!  :rollin
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 09, 2021, 10:33:07 PM
Mastadon!!  :rollin

http://relentlessbeats.com/artists/mastadon/

Yikes! He wants us to send dub-step?!?!?!?

I'm out. Can't listen to that.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 09, 2021, 11:51:35 PM
Vampira is a cool pick, although it might be a bit too crazy for TAC.

I'd be surprised if Tim likes Vampira.


 :corn
It's from the more fun side of his metal music, but I don't think it's that crazy (compared to things like Bad Devil or a lot of Deconstruction). Quite a driving song with cool riffs and great hooks.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 10, 2021, 01:18:32 AM
Vampira is a great song, it was on my list of songs to send.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2021, 04:32:02 AM
Vampira is a cool pick, although it might be a bit too crazy for TAC.

I'd be surprised if Tim likes Vampira.


 :corn

Fair play lads.  I'm guessing this response from Tim means I'm wrong.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2021, 06:02:22 AM
Mastadon!!  :rollin

http://relentlessbeats.com/artists/mastadon/

Yikes! He wants us to send dub-step?!?!?!?

I'm out. Can't listen to that.

Bonus round!





Vampira is a cool pick, although it might be a bit too crazy for TAC.

I'd be surprised if Tim likes Vampira.


 :corn

Fair play lads.  I'm guessing this response from Tim means I'm wrong.

This response means I'm eating popcorn.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2021, 06:23:09 AM
OK, here's the second grouping of First Impressions..


Skesis
Vampira
Higher
Supercrush!
Life
Stormbending
Planet Smasher
Deadhead
Sumeria
March Of The Poozers
Suicide
Love?






Not sure the Live version really adds much but it’s still cool.[Kingdom (Live)-Romdrums]

Really cool rhythm guitar to start. Quite a bit of variety for a song this length.

Kind of hectic, even a bit monotonous. Nice drum patterns near the end.

The chorus is the best part of this, Love the ending too..

Great opening guitar! Not a fan of Mid Tempo, but it works here.

Sounds like from a play or something. Almost choral in parts.

Driving tune with a steady beat. Might be too driving and too steady though.[Regulator-Elite]

The first half was amazing, almost Styx-ish, but it peters out by the end.

A very nice and simple tune. A nice change from the noise. But is it good enough?

Feels like there should be some animation to go with this.

This song is some heavy duty shit. Deep track that will need more listens.

My name is mud. Not to be confused with Bill or Jack or Steve

Totally enhances the studio version[Deep Peace (Live)-Stadler]

Love the vocals in this song. Really cool rhythm guitars too.

My first impression is that you cannot give a first impression with just one listen. This song is loaded.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Stadler on November 10, 2021, 07:36:53 AM
Not sure the Live version really adds much but it’s still cool.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Stadler on November 10, 2021, 07:38:28 AM
It’s Deaf Forever’s riff. Nice poppy track.
This is the Keep It In The Family riff! Driving track for sure.

One of these is probably Addicted. I dunno what either of those riffs are. :biggrin:

Keep It In The Family is an Anthrax song. And YES!

Deaf Forever is Motorhead.

Yeah, I should have gotten that one.  I had "Riot" in my head, though, and I couldn't connect it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2021, 08:36:22 AM
Not sure the Live version really adds much but it’s still cool.

Wrong, but then that makes them obvious...
Updated.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 10, 2021, 08:37:42 AM
The chorus is the best part of this, Love the ending too..

Driving tune with a steady beat. Might be too driving and too steady though.

Love the vocals in this song. Really cool rhythm guitars too.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2021, 08:40:49 AM
The chorus is the best part of this, Love the ending too..

Driving tune with a steady beat. Might be too driving and too steady though.

Love the vocals in this song. Really cool rhythm guitars too.

Which songs are you trying to guess, because these sure as hell ain't yours. ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 10, 2021, 08:45:30 AM
 :lol

You dirty......... :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 10, 2021, 08:53:47 AM
Failure was a no-brainer for me. It's catchy, accessible, still heavy, has a good solo, doesn't have the trademark wall of sound. Just a good song all around.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 10, 2021, 09:10:26 AM
Great opening guitar! Not a fan of Mid Tempo, but it works here.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2021, 09:11:57 AM
No. :)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 10, 2021, 11:06:06 AM
OK, here's the second grouping of First Impressions..

Regulator

Driving tune with a steady beat. Might be too driving and too steady though.
Love the vocals in this song. Really cool rhythm guitars too.


One of these two for Regulator?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2021, 11:18:25 AM

Driving tune with a steady beat. Might be too driving and too steady though.

One of these two for Regulator?

Yes!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 10, 2021, 11:32:36 AM
Listening to more Coheed And Cambria and I remain unconvinced that the two songs I've gotten from them in my roulettes aren't their only two good songs.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 10, 2021, 11:36:20 AM
What two songs were those  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 10, 2021, 11:44:40 AM
TAC was kind enough to share the playlist with me, and (fortunately or unfortunately depending on your POV), 12 songs were not available on Spotify Canada.  Keeping in mind that I own Trascendance, Addicted, Accelerated Evolution, Terria and Synchestra .... my various gifpressions:

(https://themidnightalliance.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/ive-made-a-huge-mistake.gif)

(https://media4.giphy.com/media/jedneOuAEkcgg/giphy.gif)

(https://c.tenor.com/cj5Xkx88WbUAAAAC/soso-notbad.gif)

(http://replygif.net/i/1082.gif)

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/PxVU1MvRUs3WE/200.gif)

(http://replygif.net/i/857.gif)

(http://replygif.net/i/1066.gif)

(http://replygif.net/i/1165.gif)

(https://c.tenor.com/6Chy1L59KiUAAAAM/smile-william-shatber.gif)

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/j3DmDANh1VZk1ED8hs/giphy.gif)

Am I missing something, or is there a reason no one sent anything from Infinity (cuz it's probably what I most enjoy from Devy).
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 10, 2021, 11:53:34 AM
What two songs were those  :lol

I went hunting because I was curious, too, and it looks like they were In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3 and Welcome Home.

I can definitely understand a prog fan liking only IKSoSE3. And I guess there's a reason Welcome Home was a hit, although it was never among my favorites.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 10, 2021, 12:00:37 PM
What two songs were those  :lol

I went hunting because I was curious, too, and it looks like they were In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3 and Welcome Home.

I can definitely understand a prog fan liking only IKSoSE3. And I guess there's a reason Welcome Home was a hit, although it was never among my favorites.

Yup. I'm listening to Burning Star IV now and I tried IKSoSE3 a while back (fuck these album titles, man) and nothing else has really stuck out at me.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2021, 12:02:20 PM
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/jedneOuAEkcgg/giphy.gif)

That is pretty much the entire round.



Am I missing something, or is there a reason no one sent anything from Infinity (cuz it's probably what I most enjoy from Devy).

It's probably why no one sent anything from it. ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 10, 2021, 12:03:50 PM
What two songs were those  :lol

I went hunting because I was curious, too, and it looks like they were In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3 and Welcome Home.

I can definitely understand a prog fan liking only IKSoSE3. And I guess there's a reason Welcome Home was a hit, although it was never among my favorites.

aahhh, the staples at every Coheed show. While good songs, no where near the best Coheed has to offer. But everyone has different taste so what do I know.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 10, 2021, 12:04:55 PM
(fortunately or unfortunately depending on your POV), 12 songs were not available on Spotify Canada.

Devin's Canadian, so I dunno what the fuck is up with that. :lol

And I considered sending Bad Devil as that's one of his best songs, but I actually find Infinity to be one of his weakest albums overall. It's kind of a mess and not in a way I find particularly endearing.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 10, 2021, 12:07:39 PM
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/jedneOuAEkcgg/giphy.gif)

That is pretty much the entire round.



Am I missing something, or is there a reason no one sent anything from Infinity (cuz it's probably what I most enjoy from Devy).



Maybe you could've if you know... You had fucking played you wuss.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2021, 12:13:10 PM
OK, well there's still songs and impressions that need to be paired.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 10, 2021, 12:13:23 PM
SLAP FIGHT!!!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 10, 2021, 12:19:49 PM
The impression for my other song is one of them that you haven't paired yet.

Did I get it right?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2021, 12:20:32 PM
Heavy duty shit?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2021, 12:22:16 PM
The impression for my other song is one of them that you haven't paired yet.

Did I get it right?

You have to match your song, Suicide, with one of the impressions.



Heavy duty shit?

No but it does qualify!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 10, 2021, 12:22:48 PM
Heavy duty shit?

Did I wander into the Frontiers thread?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 10, 2021, 12:49:17 PM
(fortunately or unfortunately depending on your POV), 12 songs were not available on Spotify Canada.

Devin's Canadian, so I dunno what the fuck is up with that. :lol

My thought exactly!  Blame the label!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 10, 2021, 12:56:38 PM
Am I missing something, or is there a reason no one sent anything from Infinity (cuz it's probably what I most enjoy from Devy).

It's probably why no one sent anything from it. ;D

(https://c.tenor.com/XYPWhXPDMmQAAAAM/yes-minister-%E5%A4%A7%E8%87%A3.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2021, 12:59:06 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 10, 2021, 01:00:21 PM
i also considered bad devil and might be regretting not sending that come results idk
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 10, 2021, 01:42:50 PM
Likewise I also considered Bad Devil. :lol It was between that and Vampira for the fun metal side I wanted to include, and I felt that Bad Devil might be a bit on the wacky/quirky side for Tim.

I agree with Buddy that Infinity is a messy album, but unlike Buddy that doesn't bother me too much and I still think it's great overall.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 10, 2021, 01:50:59 PM
Likewise I also considered Bad Devil. :lol It was between that and Vampira for the fun metal side I wanted to include, and I felt that Bad Devil might be a bit on the wacky/quirky side for Tim.

I agree with Buddy that Infinity is a messy album, but unlike Buddy that doesn't bother me too much and I still think it's great overall.

Bad Devil was one of the first DT songs I ever heard (live, with AVG, on ProgNation at Sea).  So much fucking fun.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2021, 01:53:13 PM
Likewise I also considered Bad Devil. :lol It was between that and Vampira for the fun metal side I wanted to include, and I felt that Bad Devil might be a bit on the wacky/quirky side for Tim.

Just checked Bad Devil.

You made the right choice.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 10, 2021, 01:54:08 PM
Likewise I also considered Bad Devil. :lol It was between that and Vampira for the fun metal side I wanted to include, and I felt that Bad Devil might be a bit on the wacky/quirky side for Tim.

Just checked Bad Devil.

You made the right choice.
:tup
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 10, 2021, 01:56:02 PM
good to know  :rollin
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2021, 02:08:17 PM
good to know  :rollin

Well, I said Ariich made the right choice..
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2021, 06:09:09 PM
OK, here's the second grouping of First Impressions..


Not sure the Live version really adds much but it’s still cool.[Kingdom (Live)-Romdrums]

Really cool rhythm guitar to start. Quite a bit of variety for a song this length.[Planet Smasher-Kwijibo]

Kind of hectic, even a bit monotonous. Nice drum patterns near the end.[Skesis-Buddy]

The chorus is the best part of this, Love the ending too..[Supercrush!-Lonestar]

Great opening guitar! Not a fan of Mid Tempo, but it works here.[Deadhead-LudwigVan, Puppies]

Sounds like from a play or something. Almost choral in parts.[Sumeria-Cyril]

Driving tune with a steady beat. Might be too driving and too steady though.[Regulator-Elite]

The first half was amazing, almost Styx-ish, but it peters out by the end.[Stormbending-Kingshmegland]

A very nice and simple tune. A nice change from the noise. But is it good enough?[Life-VMadera, HOF]

Feels like there should be some animation to go with this.[March Of The Poozers-Evermind]

This song is some heavy duty shit. Deep track that will need more listens.[Suicide-Professor]

My name is mud. Not to be confused with Bill or Jack or Steve[Love?-Wolfking]

Totally enhances the studio version[Deep Peace (Live)-Stadler]

Love the vocals in this song. Really cool rhythm guitars too.[Vampira-Ariich]

My first impression is that you cannot give a first impression with just one listen. This song is loaded.[Higher-425]
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 10, 2021, 06:10:28 PM
booo
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2021, 06:23:52 PM
If Love? Is mud, you'd have have very hard time with SYL in general.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2021, 06:29:48 PM
If Love? Is mud, you'd have have very hard time with SYL in general.

My Name Is Mud is a reference to a Primus song. Love? made me think of it. Though yes, I feel like SYL would be my least favorite Devin Era.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2021, 06:30:20 PM
booo

This quote goes great with your avatar.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2021, 06:31:59 PM
While I may have trouble with Strapping Young Lad, at least I will always have Strapping Young Chad.

(https://i.imgur.com/c0K3sFd.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 10, 2021, 06:34:44 PM
booo

This quote goes great with your avatar.

My avatar is just going to be you for the entirety of Round 7. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2021, 06:35:39 PM
booo

This quote goes great with your avatar.

My avatar is just going to be you for the entirety of Round 7. :lol

 :lol

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 10, 2021, 06:41:29 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 10, 2021, 07:25:59 PM
While I may have trouble with Strapping Young Lad, at least I will always have Strapping Young Chad.

(https://i.imgur.com/c0K3sFd.jpg)
The other bald Canadian :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2021, 08:36:44 PM
If Love? Is mud, you'd have have very hard time with SYL in general.

My Name Is Mud is a reference to a Primus song. Love? made me think of it. Though yes, I feel like SYL would be my least favorite Devin Era.

Ah.  Not overly familiar with Primus.

Strapping Young Chad  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 11, 2021, 04:49:57 AM
My gifpression of SYC ....

(http://replygif.net/i/551.gif)

a long long time ago, when some DTF'r first saw a picture of me (I forget who it was), they proclaimed I was the love-child of Devy + JR.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 11, 2021, 05:13:35 AM
(https://www.angrymetalguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Devin-Twownsend-343x500.jpg)

Poor Jordan..
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 11, 2021, 08:50:28 AM
Working on my round 2 submissions  :metal

(https://i.imgur.com/ksSrxVv.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 11, 2021, 12:24:09 PM
Roulette Progress Report!


Spent yesterday (my day off) making headway in this round. I have writeups pretty much eked out, and I am working on song rankings. I have a top to bottom list of songs, and there's still a little jockeying for position. Except for a couple of tunes, the huge majority of songs gets better with each listen.


I have heard of Anneke Van Giersbergen, but I've never actually heard her. I didn't realize that she's had a long relationship singing with Devin. A couple of you sent songs that featured her and I must say that was a stealth move. I spent a lot of last night watching live footage of her with Devin and DAMN! Spectacular. Makes me want to have an Anneke Round.


It has come to my attention that there's not a ton of Neal Morse on Spotify. I can't handle 25-30 youtube links. Are there any Neal Morse experts that have all of his stuff that could make me a playlist?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 11, 2021, 12:37:34 PM
I have heard of Anneke Van Giersbergen, but I've never actually heard her. I didn't realize that she's had a long relationship singing with Devin. A couple of you sent songs that featured her and I must say that was a stealth move. I spent a lot of last night watching live footage of her with Devin and DAMN! Spectacular. Makes me want to have an Anneke Round.

You didn't forget that I sent Hyperdrive! last roulette, did you? Noticed it wasn't one of the banned songs. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 11, 2021, 12:40:06 PM
It has come to my attention that there's not a ton of Neal Morse on Spotify. I can't handle 25-30 youtube links. Are there any Neal Morse experts that have all of his stuff that could make me a playlist?
This would be a great excuse to replace this round with something else :jamaritard:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: nick_z on November 11, 2021, 12:40:48 PM
Roulette Progress Report!


Spent yesterday (my day off) making headway in this round. I have writeups pretty much eked out, and I am working on song rankings. I have a top to bottom list of songs, and there's still a little jockeying for position. Except for a couple of tunes, the huge majority of songs gets better with each listen.


I have heard of Anneke Van Giersbergen, but I've never actually heard her. I didn't realize that she's had a long relationship singing with Devin. A couple of you sent songs that featured her and I must say that was a stealth move. I spent a lot of last night watching live footage of her with Devin and DAMN! Spectacular. Makes me want to have an Anneke Round.


It has come to my attention that there's not a ton of Neal Morse on Spotify. I can't handle 25-30 youtube links. Are there any Neal Morse experts that have all of his stuff that could make me a playlist?

I know I'm not playing, but I'm kinda following, since this is always a fun group  :biggrin:

Seeing your appreciation for Anneke - do yourself a favor a listen to Mandylion by The Gathering. That's their 1995 album (their third overall, but first with her on vocals), and that's when Anneke was introduced to us unsuspecting metalheads, who would then proceed to fall in love with her. Fantastic record - earthy, doomy and dreamy at the same time.

She's done much more, with The Gathering, guesting on many other albums, and now solo, but that (to me) is a great starting point.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 11, 2021, 12:49:16 PM
I almost sent something with Anneke but you wanted Devin so you got pure Devin!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 11, 2021, 12:54:15 PM
I have heard of Anneke Van Giersbergen, but I've never actually heard her. I didn't realize that she's had a long relationship singing with Devin. A couple of you sent songs that featured her and I must say that was a stealth move. I spent a lot of last night watching live footage of her with Devin and DAMN! Spectacular. Makes me want to have an Anneke Round.

You didn't forget that I sent Hyperdrive! last roulette, did you? Noticed it wasn't one of the banned songs. :lol

Um.. :blush yeah I forgot. Now that you mention it, I still don't remember! :lol

Do you remember which EP it was on?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 11, 2021, 12:57:55 PM
Roulette Progress Report!


Spent yesterday (my day off) making headway in this round. I have writeups pretty much eked out, and I am working on song rankings. I have a top to bottom list of songs, and there's still a little jockeying for position. Except for a couple of tunes, the huge majority of songs gets better with each listen.


I have heard of Anneke Van Giersbergen, but I've never actually heard her. I didn't realize that she's had a long relationship singing with Devin. A couple of you sent songs that featured her and I must say that was a stealth move. I spent a lot of last night watching live footage of her with Devin and DAMN! Spectacular. Makes me want to have an Anneke Round.


It has come to my attention that there's not a ton of Neal Morse on Spotify. I can't handle 25-30 youtube links. Are there any Neal Morse experts that have all of his stuff that could make me a playlist?

Replace Neal Morse with Pain of Salvation.......please.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 11, 2021, 01:20:59 PM
I have heard of Anneke Van Giersbergen, but I've never actually heard her. I didn't realize that she's had a long relationship singing with Devin. A couple of you sent songs that featured her and I must say that was a stealth move. I spent a lot of last night watching live footage of her with Devin and DAMN! Spectacular. Makes me want to have an Anneke Round.

You didn't forget that I sent Hyperdrive! last roulette, did you? Noticed it wasn't one of the banned songs. :lol

Um.. :blush yeah I forgot. Now that you mention it, I still don't remember! :lol

Do you remember which EP it was on?

It was in the female vocalists round. I think you gave it an 8.5 :lol Give yourself a refresher!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 11, 2021, 01:24:26 PM
Who wants to spot TAC the $6.99 so he can subscribe to Waterfall for a month? Should we take up a collection?  :lol

https://waterfallstreaming.com/

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 11, 2021, 01:26:31 PM
Ladies And Djents. That was a great title.

I just found it and was reading through it. Yeah, it got an 8.5.

This was my comment on it:
"I like the vocals in this, especially the chorus."
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 11, 2021, 01:30:58 PM
Heh, you probably forgot it was Devin Townsend because he's barely on it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 11, 2021, 01:34:54 PM
Heh, you probably forgot it was Devin Townsend because he's barely on it.

I forgot because I'm old.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 11, 2021, 01:37:17 PM
Who wants to spot TAC the $6.99 so he can subscribe to Waterfall for a month? Should we take up a collection?  :lol

https://waterfallstreaming.com/

Not needed. I have my Neal Morse DJ at the ready!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 11, 2021, 01:47:36 PM
Replace Neal Morse with Pain of Salvation.......please.

Why would anyone do this? It's like replacing your vacation to Hawaii with a vacation to the local landfill.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 11, 2021, 01:59:10 PM
Replace Neal Morse with Pain of Salvation.......please.

Why would anyone do this? It's like replacing your vacation to Hawaii with a vacation to the local landfill.

 :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 11, 2021, 02:01:56 PM
Hawaii is not on my bucket list.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 11, 2021, 02:29:33 PM
Replace Neal Morse with Pain of Salvation.......please.

Why would anyone do this? It's like replacing your vacation to Hawaii with a vacation to the local landfill.

Pain of Salvation > Neal Morse

---

but to answer TAC; I have all of the Spock's Beard stuff Neal sings on at least and I have about 4 solo/Neal Morse Band albums, so I can help out at least a little
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 11, 2021, 03:04:43 PM
but to answer TAC; I have all of the Spock's Beard stuff Neal sings on at least and I have about 4 solo/Neal Morse Band albums, so I can help out at least a little

Thanks Rich!

But...

Who wants to spot TAC the $6.99 so he can subscribe to Waterfall for a month? Should we take up a collection?  :lol

https://waterfallstreaming.com/

Not needed. I have my Neal Morse DJ at the ready!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 11, 2021, 03:22:57 PM
Replace Neal Morse with Pain of Salvation.......please.

Why would anyone do this? It's like replacing your vacation to Hawaii with a vacation to the local landfill.

I'm shocked that you don't have the same opinion on POS that I do.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 11, 2021, 03:26:33 PM
Take it to the DT Side! ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 11, 2021, 03:32:18 PM
Is Pain Of Salvation objectively bad?

Really makes you think.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 11, 2021, 03:38:50 PM
Is Pain Of Salvation objectively bad?

(https://i.postimg.cc/L5YLyzd7/steve-carell-no.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 11, 2021, 03:39:16 PM
Take it to the DT Side! ;D

Nah, it's better over this side.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 11, 2021, 04:05:37 PM
PoS has an unironic acronym.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 11, 2021, 04:06:24 PM
Is Pain Of Salvation objectively bad?

Really makes you think.

Are you WildRanger?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 11, 2021, 04:27:47 PM
Buddyranger1
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 11, 2021, 04:29:56 PM
Is Pain Of Salvation objectively bad?

Really makes you think.

Are you WildRanger?

Can he be?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 11, 2021, 05:03:07 PM
Devin recently did a Tea Time interview with Elizabeth Zharoff (The Charismatic Voice girl).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeYVwu1qEh4&t=2s
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 11, 2021, 05:42:03 PM
Guys I think TAC might actually like Devin Townsend :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 11, 2021, 05:46:11 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 11, 2021, 05:48:20 PM
Guys I think TAC might actually like Devin Townsend :neverusethis:

Does that mean we all win?  :biggrin: :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 11, 2021, 06:10:12 PM
Guys I think TAC might actually like Devin Townsend :neverusethis:
to be fair devin is one of the safest bets in the entire roulette, it's all downhill from here
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 11, 2021, 06:14:54 PM
Guys I think TAC might actually like Devin Townsend :neverusethis:
to be fair devin is one of the safest bets in the entire roulette, it's all downhill from here

It's kind of how I'm feeling. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 11, 2021, 06:24:30 PM
And that pleases me. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 11, 2021, 06:27:52 PM
Anyone want scores??

Here they are!

9.00
8.60
8.50
8.45
8.35
8.25
8.20
8.20
7.90
7.80
7.80
7.80
7.70
7.65
7.55
7.50
7.05


All songs ranged from 6.9-9.0
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 11, 2021, 06:39:48 PM
6.9
nice  :corn

i'm gonna put my money on one of the 7.80's
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 11, 2021, 06:40:48 PM
I realised I have quite a few Devin albums but for some reason I've never really gotten that deep into him.  I find him quite pleasant but never really went on with it.  I thought I was a decent fan, but this made me realise, probably not.

I think Tim's scores and thoughts might be something to kick start getting these albums out again and revisiting.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 11, 2021, 06:42:22 PM
One thing I forgot to do was to post the playlist.

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6rS24ffAM3GfMbh76Vi9Rn?si=c2049ca569494cd6
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 11, 2021, 07:27:07 PM
I know I'm not playing, but I'm kinda following, since this is always a fun group  :biggrin:

Seeing your appreciation for Anneke - do yourself a favor a listen to Mandylion by The Gathering. That's their 1995 album (their third overall, but first with her on vocals), and that's when Anneke was introduced to us unsuspecting metalheads, who would then proceed to fall in love with her. Fantastic record - earthy, doomy and dreamy at the same time.

She's done much more, with The Gathering, guesting on many other albums, and now solo, but that (to me) is a great starting point.

Nick, I mean to come back to this..

I will be following up with her.
Thank you and your participation is appreciated in the roulette.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2021, 05:17:11 AM
Results today!
2:00pm Boston time
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2021, 05:19:27 AM
Results today!
2:00pm Boston time

What time is it now?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 12, 2021, 05:24:39 AM
Results today!
2:00pm Boston time

What time is it now?

You've got 6.5 hours.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 12, 2021, 05:27:32 AM
Results today!
2:00pm Boston time

Wicked Pissa!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2021, 05:51:14 AM
Results today!
2:00pm Boston time

What time is it now?

You've got 6.5 hours.

I guess I'll sleep til then.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 12, 2021, 06:00:16 AM
Results today!
2:00pm Boston time

What time is it now?

You've got 6.5 hours.

I guess I'll sleep til then.

Yeah... you'll need your preserve your strength and endurance for the Haken round
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 12, 2021, 06:02:08 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2021, 06:21:00 AM
Results today!
2:00pm Boston time

What time is it now?

You've got 6.5 hours.

I guess I'll sleep til then.

Yeah... you'll need your preserve your strength and endurance for the Haken round

Jokes on you, I'm still awake and just closed a Haken vid to come back here.

True fucking story.  It come up In my feed and watched it.  The whole fucking thing too.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 12, 2021, 07:14:09 AM
Results today!
2:00pm Boston time

What time is it now?

You've got 6.5 hours.

I guess I'll sleep til then.

Yeah... you'll need your preserve your strength and endurance for the Haken round

Jokes on you, I'm still awake and just closed a Haken vid to come back here.

True fucking story.  It come up In my feed and watched it.  The whole fucking thing too.

But did you enjoy it?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2021, 12:37:33 PM
So...

Before I post the results, I really wanted to thank EVERYBODY for their submissions for this round. This format is a great way to get a great cross section of songs/styles simply due to the cross section of participants, with different tastes.

I have known about Devin for a while now, but never really checked him out. Truthfully, I did give Transcendence a listen when it came out. I put my computer on my kitchen counter and did dishes/made dinner to it. I remember digging it, but I think I thought it wore on a bit. Never listened again. Obviously, Devin is a prolific writer. He's part Alice Cooper, part King Diamond, with harsh vocals. He should appeal to me. It just seemed everytime I sampled him on youtube, it was some screamo song, although, it's really been in the last few years that I've come around a bit on that.

I have thoroughly enjoyed this playlist. I may lop off the bottom few tracks, but I listened to the playlist at work, and it totally worked for me. One thing I noticed is whatever song is playing, there is some incredible drumming. He always has a tight AF rhythm section.

So, as the title asks...WTF am I missing? A lot here.
You guys have provided me a wonderful roadmap. Mission accomplished!

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 12, 2021, 12:42:26 PM
You guys have provided me a wonderful roadmap. Mission accomplished!

Too bad this is the road you're on

(http://i.imgur.com/Du993Pc.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 12, 2021, 12:45:48 PM
you should start your deep dive with Ghost :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 12, 2021, 12:46:06 PM
So...

Before I post the results, I really wanted to thank EVERYBODY for their submissions for this round. This format is a great way to get a great cross section of songs/styles simply due to the cross section of participants, with different tastes.

I have known about Devin for a while now, but never really checked him out. Truthfully, I did give Transcendence a listen when it came out. I put my computer on my kitchen counter and did dishes/made dinner to it. I remember digging it, but I think I thought it wore on a bit. Never listened again. Obviously, Devin is a prolific writer. He's part Alice Cooper, part King Diamond, with harsh vocals. He should appeal to me. It just seemed everytime I sampled him on youtube, it was some screamo song, although, it's really been in the last few years that I've come around a bit on that.

I have thoroughly enjoyed this playlist. I may lop off the bottom few tracks, but I listened to the playlist at work, and it totally worked for me. One thing I noticed is whatever song is playing, there is some incredible drumming. He always has a tight AF rhythm section.

So, as the title asks...WTF am I missing? A lot here.
You guys have provided me a wonderful roadmap. Mission accomplished!


Awesome, go team!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 12, 2021, 12:46:28 PM
you should start your deep dive with Ghost :neverusethis:
No, Devlab.

Or The Hummer.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2021, 12:49:44 PM
Devsults!!


Lonestar

Supercrush!....... 8.4

The chorus is the best part of this, ends really strong.

Anneke! Holy shit!. I really like Devin in this chorus. I would’ve liked a different pace or some sort of changeup in the bridge. Listening at around 3:45 and there’s too much going on in my ears. I like that quick little thing at 4:08 to set up the final chorus. The part at 5:00, I like and they exited that section too soon to end the song. I would’ve rather dropped the bridge and built upon that ending. Still, great song.

Addicted!....... 7.2

This is the Keep It In The Family riff! Driving track for sure.
 
The beginning of this reminded me a lot of Anthrax’s Keep It In The Family. Totally the same groove. This song kind of lives on this groove for the entire song. The female vocals are nice, but this isn’t my favorite Devin vocal. The chorus isn’t bad. I wasn’t expecting the circus music until the next round.
Unfortunately for Addicted!, there's way more songs in this round that are more....addictive!

8.4+7.2=15.6/2=7.80



Kingshmegland

Stormbending....... 8.3

The first half was amazing, almost Styx-ish, but it peters out by the end.

This starts off with a cool section. At 1:40, it goes full on Styx, and it’s awesome. I love this part. Love it! Has a cool JP styled solo. The second half of this song isn’t nearly as good as the first, but like most other songs, this section has grown on me.

Where We Belong...... 7.1

Nice enough but not very exciting, though it “grands up” for the second half.

Wow, this feels almost too safe. There’s some intense stuff in this round and this is having trouble stacking up.

8.3+7.1=15.4/2=7.70




Vmadera00

Kingdom..... 9.0

Really strong vocals for the early verses.  This song is really thick, but good.

Damn, what an amazing intro. When the vocals come in, it is literally my favorite moment of the entire playlist. These first verses are amazing. This song stays on an intense journey. This song really gets better with every listen.

Life......  7.9

A very nice and simple tune. A nice change from the noise. But is it good enough?

Sounds like a song you’d hear on the radio. Quality track. Quite simple and effective. I definitely like it. So many of the other songs in this round are so thick, this is like a breath of fresh air.

9.0+7.9=16.9/2=8.45




Romdrums

Almost Again......  7.5

Decent enough tune. Will it stand out?

I have really struggled to come up with comments on this song. The verse is ok. The chorus is ok. There’s nothing I inherently dislike about this song, but there’s nothing I really grab onto. The best moment of the song comes at 2:00.. the  “so it’s over” part.

Kingdom (Live)....... 9.0

Not sure the Live version really adds much but it’s still cool.

Here’s what I said about the studio version:
Damn, what an amazing intro. When the vocals come in, it is literally my favorite moment of the entire playlist. These first verses are amazing. This song stays on an intense journey. This song really gets better with every listen.

This live version is pretty faithful, but it is strong. Tons of energy.

7.5+9.0=16.5/2=8.25



Kwyjibo

Funeral.....  7.4

This was actually pretty nice to start but damn it lingers

This song has a nice pace to it. Almost hypnotic. There seems to be layers to this, but I feel like this plods along a bit. I am glad it changes a bit at 5:30. Breaks it up a bit, but it’s the same tempo. I kind of wish they’d had ridden this out. When it comes back full on, it just feels like a long song.


Planet Smasher...... 8.2

Really cool rhythm guitar to start. Quite a bit of variety for a song of this length.

I like the Megadeth styled opening to this. I don’t know what kind of story is going on, but the music really supports it well. There’s a wicked double bass flurry at 2:15. Wow! This music really keeps you engaged. Really intense. I like the bit at 4:00 and it would’ve been a nice way to ride this out. I didn’t need another chorus, which is the weakest part of the song. This song has some really cool rhythm guitars. I really digged this.

7.4+8.2=15.6/2=7.80





HOF

Life......  7.9

A very nice and simple tune. A nice change from the noise. But is it good enough?

Sounds like a song you’d hear on the radio. Quality track. Quite simple and effective. I definitely like it. So many of the other songs in this round are so thick, this is like a breath of fresh air.

Funeral..... 7.4

This was actually pretty nice to start but damn it lingers

This song has a nice pace to it. Almost hypnotic. There seems to be layers to this, but I feel like this plods along a bit. I am glad it changes a bit at 5:30. Breaks it up a bit, but it’s the same tempo. I kind of wish they’d had ridden this out. When it comes back full on, it just feels like a long song.

7.9+7.4=15.3/2=7.65



Buddy

Addicted!...... 7.2

This is the Keep It In The Family riff! Driving track for sure.

The beginning of this reminded me a lot of Anthrax’s Keep It In The Family. Totally the same groove. This song kind of lives on this groove for the entire song. The female vocals are nice, but this isn’t my favorite Devin vocal. The chorus isn’t bad. I wasn’t expecting the circus music until the next round. Unfortunately for Addicted!, there's way more songs in this round that are more....addictive!


Skesis...... 6.9

Kind of hectic, even a bit monotonous. Nice drum patterns near the end.

Another song that reminds me of Anthrax. Except, I can’t say I’m a huge fan of this song. It’s intense and all, but I don’t feel it takes me anywhere. It’s not terribly musical. The last minute is pretty cool though. Amazing drumming.

7.2+6.9=14.1/2=7.05




Puppies

Deadhead........ 8.2

Great opening guitar! Not a fan of Mid Tempo, but it works here.

I love the opening guitar here. Mid tempo, but I like how the vocals float above the rhythm. There’s two run throughs over the verse/chorus before a long instrumental section where it stays at the same tempo and not much happens. Then a third verse/chorus, all at the same pace. I think at 8 minutes, this is probably 3 minutes too long. I like the idea of this, but it just kind of wears on. Still, it's one of the stronger tracks in the round.

Failure...... 9.0

Really nice. Excellent chorus. Cool guitar. Nice.

Cool guitar to start this off. The rhythm leading into the verses is cool. Nice vocals and falsetto. The chorus is grand. Nice intro to the instrumental part at 2:16. Then at 3:12, it goes full on La Villa Strangiato. This is fucking nice! Closing with another chorus and brief outro. Excellent song!

8.2+9.0=17.2/2=8.60





Cyril

Stand..... 7.4

Wow, that’s a powerful song, but it does test your patience.

Kind of a brooding beginning. The whole song is brooding. Love that little thing they do at 7:46. I think my first listen to this was the best one. It never really took off from there. It’s just kind of monotonous.

Sumeria.....  7.7

Sounds like from a play or something. Almost choral in parts.

The gang vocals are really cool. Like an entrance of a Disney villain. Probably my favorite part of the song. This song has a ton of layers. Not sure I’m crazy about the verses though. Interesting way to end it. Doesn’t feel connected to the song in any way.

7.4+7.7=15.1/2=7.55
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2021, 12:50:09 PM
Elite

Poltergeist...... 8.1

Cool driving rhythms. Frenetic pace to this.

Not sure if this song fits into its album contextually. Standing alone, it feels a bit odd. I like the “Give it to me”s in the background at about the :50 mark. Best part is at 2:40. Love that groove. Interesting switch at 3:15. This kind of thing was needed a minute earlier. I wasn’t sure if this song was ever going to come up for air.

Regulator...... 6.9

Driving tune with a steady beat. Might be too driving and too steady though.

I ain’t gonna lie. I don’t really like this song. Probably my least favorite of the round. It just pulses and doesn’t do much else for me.

8.1+6.9=15/2=7.50



LudwigVan

Deadhead..... 8.2

Great opening guitar! Not a fan of Mid Tempo, but it works here.

I love the opening guitar here. Mid tempo, but I like how the vocals float above the rhythm. There’s two run throughs of the verse/chorus before a long instrumental section where it stays at the same tempo and not much happens. Then a third verse/chorus, all at the same pace. I think at 8 minutes, this is probably 3 minutes too long. I like the idea of this, but it just kind of wears on. Still, it's one of the stronger tracks in the round.


Traveller......  8.5

This isn’t the Rush Round.

Right away, the rhythm guitars reminded me of Rush. Even the drums..looking at the Test For Echo era, although some of the guitars harken back even further. Really nice vocals in the chorus. The chorus has that 80’s college radio feel to it.
8.2+8.5=16.7/2=8.35



Evermind

Failure...... 9.0

Really nice. Excellent chorus. Cool guitar. Nice.

Cool guitar to start this off. The rhythm leading into the verses is cool. Nice vocals and falsetto. The chorus is grand. Nice intro to the instrumental part at 2:16. Then at 3:12, it goes full on La Villa Strangiato. This is fucking nice! Closing with another chorus and brief outro. Excellent Song!

March Of The Poozers...... 7.4

Feels like there should be some animation to go with this.

Two visions entered my mind listening to this. The marching hammers in Pink Floyd’s The Wall, and Disney’s Fantasia. This song is really well executed. I’m sure that in the context of whatever album this is part of, it fits in great. As a stand alone track, it’s less effective.

9.0+7.4=16.4/2=8.20



Professor Peart

Suicide...... 8.0

This song is some heavy duty shit. Deep track that will need more listens.

This is a thick song that I’m really having trouble feeling one way or the other about it. It’s heavy, but it does kind of feel ‘there’. It does have a decent chorus. The instrumental part at 4:04 is really nice leading into that excellent solo at 5:09. The ending chorus fits nicely after the instrumental section. This song is growing on me, like I knew it would.

Deep Peace...... 8.4

Was thinking this was a bit wanky but that guitar solo is nails.

Not sure of the setting or what animal those sounds are supposed to be. Thinking of a seashore or something. Pink Floydish when the vocals start for sure. When the guitar solo starts, it sounds Kung Fu Panda-ish, but then morphs into something really fucking cool. Phenomenal solo. The bands’ backing behind it is incredible, supporting every twist and turn. Standard ending which I feel lets the song down a bit.
8.0+8.4=16.4/2=8.20



Wolfking

Poltergeist...... 8.1

Cool driving rhythms. Frenetic pace to this.

Not sure if this song fits into its album contextually. Standing alone, it feels a bit odd.
I like the “Give it to me”s in the background at about the :50 mark. Best part is at 2:40. Love that groove. Interesting switch at 3:15. This kind of thing was needed a minute earlier. I wasn’t sure if this song was ever going to come up for air.

Love?...... 7.5 

My name is mud. Not to be confused with Bill or Jack or Steve

This song has a pounding rhythm. I’m glad the chorus breaks it up a bit. But I’m not sure it’s enough. For such a short song, it’s a bit monotonous.

8.1+7.5=15.6/2=7.8


Stadler

Deep Peace (Live).....8.5

Totally enhances the studio version

Here’s what I said about the studio version:
Not sure of the setting or what animal those sounds are supposed to be. Thinking of a seashore or something. Pink Floydish when the vocals start for sure. When the guitar solo starts, it sounds Kung Fu Panda-ish, but then morphs into something really fucking cool. Phenomenal solo. The bands’ backing behind it is incredible, supporting every twist and turn. Standard ending which I feel lets the song down a bit.

The song feels intimate live. And the ending feels a bit stronger than the studio version.

Bend It Like Bender!...... 8.5

It’s Deaf Forever’s riff. Nice poppy track.

Yeah, the Deaf Forever riff hit me right from the jump. Great blend with the female vocals for the chorus. She has a great voice. This has a real nice fun feel to it.

8.5+8.5=17/2=8.5



Ariich

Vampira....... 9.0

Love the vocals in this song. Really cool rhythm guitars too.

Nice chugging rhythm guitars to start this song. This might be my favorite Devin vocal in the playlist. Reminds me of Freddie Mercury honestly. Not so much in range, but in versatility. The chorus is excellent. Big time Metallica moment at 1:48. The chorus at 2:25 is particularly strong vocally. Really impressive piece.

Failure....... 9.0

Really nice. Excellent chorus. Cool guitar. Nice.

Cool guitar to start this off. The rhythm leading into the verses is cool. Nice vocals and falsetto. The chorus is grand. Nice intro to the instrumental part at 2:16. Then at 3:12, it goes full on La Villa Strangiato. This is fucking nice! Closing with another chorus and brief outro. Excellent song!

9.0+9.0=18/2=9.0



425

Higher...... 7.9

My first impression is that you cannot give a first impression with just one listen. This song is loaded.

Pink Floyd to start. This one word chorus is ..interesting. It is grandiose. Cool rhythm under the verse at 2:40., and the following verse as well. The middle part from 4:00 to about 5:20 is excellent. This song is quite a journey. Feels a bit long. While there were a few too many “Higher”s in the beginning, those final ones must go over amazing live.

From The Heart....... 7.9

I was finding the song  a bit slow going, but the instrumental passage to close the song is outstanding.

Even though this song starts out kind of slow, there’s a strength behind it. The verses are really nice. It meanders (not sure this is the right word, because it is effective, but…boring) a bit as it decompresses into the instrumental second half. The instrumental section is quiet and dreamy, but quite gorgeous.

7.9+7.9=15.8/2=7.90


As always, please check my math!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2021, 12:50:27 PM
Standings!


Ariich...9.0
Puppies...8.60
Stadler...8.50
VMadera...8.45
LudwigVan...8.35
Romdrums...8.25
Evermind...8.20
Professor...8.20
425...7.90
Lonestar...7.80
Kwyjibo...7.80
Wolfking...7.80
Kingshmegland...7.70
HOF...7.65
Cyril...7.55
Elite...7.50
Buddy...7.05
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 12, 2021, 12:51:45 PM
everyone sending the heaviest songs getting the worst scores is some good karma  :rollin
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2021, 12:55:12 PM
Glad you enjoyed the round mate.  I'll revisit a lot of these songs myself.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: Crow on November 12, 2021, 12:59:10 PM
also the ending of sumeria connects to the next song on the album, which is a 16 minute epic called The Mighty Masturbator.

It's...... a trip  :lol
idk decon has kinda wormed its way up to being probably my favorite metal album by devin overall honestly it's just a good time
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 12, 2021, 01:00:10 PM
Wow, what the fuck. :lol

Well, let's just consider this a team effort. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2021, 01:01:16 PM
Results today!
2:00pm Boston time

What time is it now?

You've got 6.5 hours.

I guess I'll sleep til then.

Yeah... you'll need your preserve your strength and endurance for the Haken round

Jokes on you, I'm still awake and just closed a Haken vid to come back here.

True fucking story.  It come up In my feed and watched it.  The whole fucking thing too.

But did you enjoy it?

I did not.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: Evermind on November 12, 2021, 01:01:52 PM
Huh, Poozers only got 7.4. Well, I'm not here to win anyway. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: Zoom E on November 12, 2021, 01:06:46 PM
Glad to see the love for Vampira. That’s a killer song.


*returns to lurking*
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2021, 01:08:02 PM
Glad to see the love for Vampira. That’s a killer song.


*returns to lurking*

Yeah, I got that totally wrong in what Tim would think here.  That's cool though.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: 425 on November 12, 2021, 01:09:47 PM
I basically agree with your assessments of the two songs I sent! I'll definitely take a middle of the pack score right now, even though numerically I'm slightly closer to last than I am to first. Not one of my stronger artists (really only know a couple of albums), so hopefully that's a good starting place for me to build on.

And yeah, it's pretty cool that this round went over so well and got you to reevaluate the artist. I hope that happens again.

Haken submissions coming soon.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: lonestar on November 12, 2021, 01:10:50 PM
Nice.. Supercrush is easily my favorite Devy song, and Anneke is just :hearts:


Let the Hakenation begin.. Sent.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2021, 01:11:12 PM
 :facepalm:
Huh, Poozers only got 7.4. Well, I'm not here to win anyway. :lol

Poozers felt like a transitional piece. There's just something that felt incomplete to me about it.





Glad to see the love for Vampira. That’s a killer song.


*returns to lurking*

Yeah, I got that totally wrong in what Tim would think here.  That's cool though.

Vampira had the best vocal of the round, plus I loved the old school Metallica style riffing.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: Evermind on November 12, 2021, 01:12:58 PM
Poozers felt like a transitional piece. There's just something that felt incomplete to me about it.

I think it's a live staple! I don't actually know but one time I saw Devin live, he played both Failure and Poozers. :lol Both sounded pretty good!

I should've went with Kingdom though, yeah.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 12, 2021, 01:16:54 PM
For funsies, here's my personal ranking of every song this round:

Addicted!
Funeral
Skeksis
Love?
Deadhead
Kingdom
Stormbending
Deep Peace
Bend It Like Bender!
Vampira
March Of The Poozers
Suicide
Stand
Supercrush!
Failure
Regulator
Sumeria
Poltergeist
Where We Belong
Higher
Almost Again
Life
Traveller
Planet Smasher
From The Heart

I like everything from Higher onwards though, and the bottom five certainly aren't bad. Kinda surprised I ranked all the Deconstruction songs that low, but I think that album works better as a whole and my favorite three songs from it weren't sent (The Mighty Masturbator, Planet Of The Apes, Deconstruction).
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2021, 01:18:27 PM
I should've went with Kingdom though, yeah.

To be fair, everybody should've went with Kingdom. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2021, 01:19:40 PM
For funsies, here's my personal ranking of every song this round:

Addicted!
Funeral
Skeksis
Love?
Deadhead
Kingdom
Stormbending
Deep Peace
Bend It Like Bender!
Vampira
March Of The Poozers
Suicide
Stand
Supercrush!
Failure
Regulator
Sumeria
Poltergeist
Where We Belong
Higher
Almost Again
Life
Traveller
Planet Smasher
From The Heart

I like everything from Higher onwards though, and the bottom five certainly aren't bad. Kinda surprised I ranked all the Deconstruction songs that low, but I think that album works better as a whole and my favorite three songs from it weren't sent (The Mighty Masturbator, Planet Of The Apes, Deconstruction).

Thanks for the list, Buddy!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 12, 2021, 01:22:05 PM
Let the Hakenation begin.. Sent.

I don't know if I can think of too many things more miserable than 3 hours of Haken.

3 hours of Opeth?
3 hours of Porcupine Tree?
3 hours of Coheed?
3 hours of BTBAM?

hmmm... seems I can think of it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 12, 2021, 01:22:36 PM
Sent for Round 2. I anticipate being raked over the coals for one of my picks. :biggrin: The other is pretty obvious.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 12, 2021, 01:29:42 PM
Second song was safe. I figured so many were sending in the normal Devy furry of sound so I was hoping the change would catch you. 

Round 2 all ready sent!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: Evermind on November 12, 2021, 01:30:17 PM
Let the Hakenation begin.. Sent.

I don't know if I can think of too many things more miserable than 3 hours of Haken.

3 hours of Opeth?
3 hours of Porcupine Tree?
3 hours of Coheed?
3 hours of BTBAM?

hmmm... seems I can think of it.

I still have fond memories of Haken's show I visited in Hamburg in 2019. It was Haken headlining with VOLA and Bent Knee as openers. Sounds like a nightmare for you Chad. :lol Man those were good times. I got back to my room at like 2 AM.

Hopefully I'll be able to travel somewhere next year. Two years of almost no concerts and absolutely no travel have been a little bit difficult. I still have tickets to ProgPower Europe 2020 which is 2022 now. :lol Perhaps that'll finally happen next autumn.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 12, 2021, 01:30:21 PM
Seems like Ocean Machine, which is my favorite DT record might not be for you. But anyway, on to the Haken round.  :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2021, 01:32:41 PM
Let the Hakenation begin.. Sent.

I don't know if I can think of too many things more miserable than 3 hours of Haken.

3 hours of Opeth?
3 hours of Porcupine Tree?
3 hours of Coheed?
3 hours of BTBAM?

hmmm... seems I can think of it.

The regret of not singing up here is real.

Plus, you forgot Mastadon.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 12, 2021, 01:33:25 PM
Let the Hakenation begin.. Sent.

I don't know if I can think of too many things more miserable than 3 hours of Haken.

3 hours of Opeth?
3 hours of Porcupine Tree?
3 hours of Coheed?
3 hours of BTBAM?

hmmm... seems I can think of it.

Have a Snickers will ya?! :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2021, 01:37:29 PM
Second song was safe. I figured so many were sending in the normal Devy furry of sound so I was hoping the change would catch you. 

Round 2 all ready sent!

I found Devin anything but furry. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: Elite on November 12, 2021, 01:40:02 PM
alright :tup

enjoy checking out Devin's work!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 12, 2021, 01:42:02 PM
Second song was safe. I figured so many were sending in the normal Devy furry of sound so I was hoping the change would catch you. 

Round 2 all ready sent!

I found Devin anything but furry. :lol

 :lol  Fury
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: Elite on November 12, 2021, 01:43:52 PM
Sent!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: LudwigVan on November 12, 2021, 01:44:34 PM
Wow. Arich totally nailed this round. And it wasn’t even really close.

Anyway, I chose the shorter upbeat and poppier Traveller as a foil to the grand doominess of Deadhead (which I like better). It never occurred to me that it was reminiscent of 90s Rush, but now that you point that out, I have to agree.

I’ve sent my Haken picks. That was torturous, but probably not as bad as it’s going to be for me with BTBAM.

There’s some serious strategizing going on in this roulette!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2021, 01:45:36 PM
Second song was safe. I figured so many were sending in the normal Devy furry of sound so I was hoping the change would catch you. 

Round 2 all ready sent!

I found Devin anything but furry. :lol

 :lol  Fury

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Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2021, 01:47:17 PM
Anyway, I chose the shorter upbeat and poppier Traveller as a foil to the grand doominess of Deadhead (which I like better). It never occurred to me that it was reminiscent of 90s Rush, but now that you point that out, I have to agree.

The Rush feel jumped out at me right away. I really liked that song.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: Evermind on November 12, 2021, 01:50:57 PM
I'll send tomorrow, I love Haken and I've no idea what to send to Tim, it's not his kind of band for sure.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: Elite on November 12, 2021, 01:53:44 PM
It wasn't easy to pick two songs :)

ready for the lowest song score in the round again :caffeine:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 12, 2021, 01:59:32 PM
I don't get Spock's Beard

I don't get Neal Morse

Might employ the dice roll strategy. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 12, 2021, 02:00:49 PM
Let the Hakenation begin.. Sent.

I don't know if I can think of too many things more miserable than 3 hours of Haken.

3 hours of Opeth?
3 hours of Porcupine Tree?
3 hours of Coheed?
3 hours of BTBAM?

hmmm... seems I can think of it.

The regret of not singing up here is real.

Plus, you forgot Masta Don.

I was told ...

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Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: nick_z on November 12, 2021, 02:02:04 PM
Adding my two cents on Devin, as a lurker of this roulette...

The first I've heard of him was a Strapping Young Lad song on a (I think) Century Media sampler in 1995...That song was S.Y.L. from their (his? I think he played everything on that one) debut. I thought it was nuts, kind of a crazier version of Fear Factory (with that epic chorus!). Didn't really follow up until City came out. The chaos on that album was real  ;) and insane drumming from Gene Hoglan. Great stuff. I don't think any of the songs submitted here are from that record, if I'm not mistaken...

After that, I thought Infinity was a lot of fun (and Christeen is a great pop song!), Physicist was ok (that's where the first version of Kingdom is, although the version on Epicloud is better) and Terria was really, really good. Then I almost feel the novelty started wearing out a bit and I didn't follow his work that closely. I was excited about the comeback of Strapping Young Lad, but the heaviness on those albums felt a little contrived to me. Accelerated Evolution has a modern Rush undertone (as noted above) that I really enjoy.

Of the post-Terria album I've heard, Addicted is my favorite. It has the right amount of crunch, great melodies...and Anneke, of course  :) In fact, I'd say that might be one of my favorite of his, period.

I'm going to take advantage of the playlist on this thread to discover some of the more recent albums...
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: Crow on November 12, 2021, 02:16:49 PM
Second song was safe. I figured so many were sending in the normal Devy furry of sound so I was hoping the change would catch you. 

Round 2 all ready sent!

I found Devin anything but furry. :lol
then go watch the lucky animals music video
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Post by: 425 on November 12, 2021, 02:23:03 PM
I'll send tomorrow, I love Haken and I've no idea what to send to Tim, it's not his kind of band for sure.

I made one of my choices very quickly and confidently, which means there's a good chance it will bomb.
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 12, 2021, 02:34:30 PM
Second song was safe. I figured so many were sending in the normal Devy furry of sound so I was hoping the change would catch you. 

Round 2 all ready sent!

I found Devin anything but furry. :lol
then go watch the lucky animals music video

I raise you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plkd3Ih9hT0
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Post by: Stadler on November 12, 2021, 02:35:44 PM
Nice.. Supercrush is easily my favorite Devy song, and Anneke is just :hearts:


Let the Hakenation begin.. Sent.

I clued Tim in to the By A Thread Live In London footage from her night.   I can watch that all day long.  She is so attractive, and the strength of her vocals just magnifies that. Add to it that she's clearly having a lot of fun playing with Dev, and it's a homerun.
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Post by: Revenge319 on November 12, 2021, 02:37:59 PM
I've just been quietly spectating this roulette (I probably would've asked to participate if I was more familiar with the discographies of Neal Morse, Coheed and Cambria, and Opeth), but I wanted to come by and say that I would've sent Thing Beyond Things in this round. I have no idea whether you would have liked it or not, TAC, but that's easily my favorite Devin Townsend song that I've heard thus far, and it's without a doubt one of my all-time favorite songs, and I'd send it just for that reason. My other choice would've been By Your Command, or something else from Ziltoid the Omniscient. There's still a lot of Devin Townsend's discography I've yet to listen to, but all the songs here I recognize are also great choices in my book.
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Post by: Crow on November 12, 2021, 02:42:01 PM
Second song was safe. I figured so many were sending in the normal Devy furry of sound so I was hoping the change would catch you. 

Round 2 all ready sent!

I found Devin anything but furry. :lol
then go watch the lucky animals music video

I raise you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plkd3Ih9hT0
oh i hadn't seen this one before but i've seen flacko do a lot of devin stuff before so this makes sense  :lol
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Post by: HOF on November 12, 2021, 02:43:42 PM
Not last (for now)!

Sent!
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 12, 2021, 02:45:33 PM
I've just been quietly spectating this roulette (I probably would've asked to participate if I was more familiar with the discographies of Neal Morse, Coheed and Cambria, and Opeth), but I wanted to come by and say that I would've sent Thing Beyond Things in this round. I have no idea whether you would have liked it or not, TAC, but that's easily my favorite Devin Townsend song that I've heard thus far, and it's without a doubt one of my all-time favorite songs, and I'd send it just for that reason. My other choice would've been By Your Command, or something else from Ziltoid the Omniscient. There's still a lot of Devin Townsend's discography I've yet to listen to, but all the songs here I recognize are also great choices in my book.

Ah yeah, that's definitely a big omission. Some other big ones that I wish were sent are Bad Devil and Disruptr, though idk if TAC would have liked either of those.
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Post by: Crow on November 12, 2021, 02:46:04 PM
also fwiw my two favorite devin songs are both off ocean machine, those being funeral and the death of music, but everyone here was collectively smart enough to not send the latter  :lol
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Post by: TAC on November 12, 2021, 02:59:56 PM


Ah yeah, that's definitely a big omission. Some other big ones that I wish were sent are Bad Devil and Disruptr, though idk if TAC would have liked either of those.

I'm glad Bad Devil wasn't sent. It came up in conversation the other day in the thread, so I decided to check it out. It wouldn't have scored well.
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Post by: Elite on November 12, 2021, 03:01:27 PM
also fwiw my two favorite devin songs are both off ocean machine, those being funeral and the death of music, but everyone here was collectively smart enough to not send the latter  :lol

The final stretch of Ocean Machine is so good. Bastard is amazing as well.
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Post by: ariich on November 12, 2021, 03:04:13 PM
Wow, what the fuck. :lol

Well, let's just consider this a team effort. :neverusethis:

Awesome, go team!
:D

Anyway, delighted you liked those two songs so much Tim, and yeah with Vampira especially, the features you picked out and seem to have really enjoyed were exactly the things I thought you might like (the huge vocals, the Metallica style riff, etc.).
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Post by: Kwyjibo on November 12, 2021, 03:04:42 PM
Seems like everyone but me loves The Death Of Music.

Regulator/Funeral/Bastard is just so much better.

And Things Beyond Things, so simple yet so beautiful.
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Post by: Crow on November 12, 2021, 03:07:24 PM
also fwiw my two favorite devin songs are both off ocean machine, those being funeral and the death of music, but everyone here was collectively smart enough to not send the latter  :lol

The final stretch of Ocean Machine is so good. Bastard is amazing as well.
i think when i ran a devin survivor like five billion years ago bastard won the entire thing, it's also really good but it's slotted between two songs i like even more so it gets kinda overshadowed in my mind

edit: yup, dug up the results thread
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43542.msg1943641#msg1943641
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2021, 03:09:19 PM
also fwiw my two favorite devin songs are both off ocean machine, those being funeral and the death of music, but everyone here was collectively smart enough to not send the latter  :lol

The final stretch of Ocean Machine is so good. Bastard is amazing as well.
i think when i ran a devin survivor like five billion years ago bastard won the entire thing, it's also really good but it's slotted between two songs i like even more so it gets kinda overshadowed in my mind

Puppies used his Wild Card and included that, but it was an easy dump compared to Deadhead and Failure.
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Post by: TAC on November 12, 2021, 03:16:01 PM
I've just been quietly spectating this roulette (I probably would've asked to participate if I was more familiar with the discographies of Neal Morse, Coheed and Cambria, and Opeth), but I wanted to come by and say that I would've sent Thing Beyond Things in this round. I have no idea whether you would have liked it or not, TAC, but that's easily my favorite Devin Townsend song that I've heard thus far, and it's without a doubt one of my all-time favorite songs, and I'd send it just for that reason. My other choice would've been By Your Command, or something else from Ziltoid the Omniscient. There's still a lot of Devin Townsend's discography I've yet to listen to, but all the songs here I recognize are also great choices in my book.

I just ran through both songs. They would both need a couple listens to sink in, but I found that with most of the songs in this round. By Your Command sounded interesting for sure.
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Post by: Crow on November 12, 2021, 03:17:58 PM
yeah i was considering a ziltoid song but they're all very weird and mostly pretty long too so idk how well they would've done, planet smasher and hyperdrive were probably the best picks from that one and even then it's the lesser hyperdrive on ziltoid so
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 12, 2021, 03:26:47 PM
Seems like everyone but me loves The Death Of Music.

Regulator/Funeral/Bastard is just so much better.

I've always loved the atmosphere and vocal performance of that song, but the mixing is terrible. It's such a minimalistic song, yet the vocals are buried. All the mix needed was for them to be raised a bit; I went in and raised the upper mids using an EQ (plus some other subtle tweaks) and it sounds so much better to me now.
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Post by: ariich on November 12, 2021, 03:30:34 PM
Haken songs sent!

I suspect my picks are both pretty obvious this time.
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Post by: TAC on November 12, 2021, 03:45:18 PM
So far 11 people have submitted a total of 17 songs and we're at 2h16m.
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Post by: ariich on November 12, 2021, 03:45:55 PM
Is anyone going to be brave/mad enough to send any of the 20+ minute songs?
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Post by: TAC on November 12, 2021, 03:46:34 PM
Is anyone going to be brave/mad enough to send any of the 20+ minute songs?

I know one person that'll be mad. :lol
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Post by: Crow on November 12, 2021, 03:49:59 PM
Haken songs sent!

I suspect my picks are both pretty obvious this time.
i sent the two most obvious picks possible tbh

haken have significantly less songs than devin so a lot of overlap is not surprising
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 12, 2021, 03:51:23 PM
I didn't send anything from the first three albums.
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Post by: Crow on November 12, 2021, 04:19:31 PM
I didn't send anything from the first three albums either, if you count the demo.
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Post by: King Postwhore on November 12, 2021, 04:24:28 PM
Is anyone going to be brave/mad enough to send any of the 20+ minute songs?

I know one person that'll be mad. :lol

I would have loved to send my favorite Haken song that falls into this category but I know it's not conducive to Tim's tastes.
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 12, 2021, 04:26:18 PM
Doesn't Haken only have two 20+ minute songs? And doesn't one of them suck? :lol
Crystallized is just under 20 minutes and Celestial Elixir is only 17.
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Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 12, 2021, 04:29:37 PM
Wow, what the fuck. :lol

Well, let's just consider this a team effort. :neverusethis:

Awesome, go team!
:D

Anyway, delighted you liked those two songs so much Tim, and yeah with Vampira especially, the features you picked out and seem to have really enjoyed were exactly the things I thought you might like (the huge vocals, the Metallica style riff, etc.).
Damnit Ariich! I thought I had 1st place out of the gates until I saw your scores!  :censored  :neverusethis:
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Post by: King Postwhore on November 12, 2021, 04:31:41 PM
Doesn't Haken only have two 20+ minute songs? And doesn't one of them suck? :lol
Crystallized is just under 20 minutes and Celestial Elixir is only 17.

So you know then. Lol. BTW,  I sent like you.
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Post by: Crow on November 12, 2021, 04:56:28 PM
wait i know what one of the 20+ minute songs is but what's the other one
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Post by: lonestar on November 12, 2021, 05:00:07 PM
wait i know what one of the 20+ minute songs is but what's the other one

Visions and Messiah Complex?
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Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2021, 05:08:53 PM
Haken songs sent!

I suspect my picks are both pretty obvious this time.

Which ones are those ones?
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Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2021, 05:19:54 PM
Doesn't Haken only have two 20+ minute songs? And doesn't one of them suck? :lol
Crystallized is just under 20 minutes and Celestial Elixir is only 17.

Just one of them?
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Post by: nick_z on November 12, 2021, 05:25:40 PM
also fwiw my two favorite devin songs are both off ocean machine, those being funeral and the death of music, but everyone here was collectively smart enough to not send the latter  :lol

The final stretch of Ocean Machine is so good. Bastard is amazing as well.

Can't believe I forgot to mention Ocean Machine in my recount of my own DT experience...brain fart I guess  ;) ...Very much one my favorites in his body of work and yes, the final stretch is pretty spectacular
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Post by: Crow on November 12, 2021, 05:31:26 PM
wait i know what one of the 20+ minute songs is but what's the other one

Visions and Messiah Complex?
the latter's like 17 minutes lol
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Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 12, 2021, 05:50:41 PM
wait i know what one of the 20+ minute songs is but what's the other one

Visions and Messiah Complex?
the latter's like 17 minutes lol
Crystallized would be the closest at 19+ minutes.
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Post by: lonestar on November 12, 2021, 05:52:37 PM
wait i know what one of the 20+ minute songs is but what's the other one

Visions and Messiah Complex?
the latter's like 17 minutes lol

My bad, I thought it was longer for some reason.
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Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 12, 2021, 05:53:53 PM
Sent for the Haken round. Sorry in advance.... :corn
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 12, 2021, 06:01:12 PM
wait i know what one of the 20+ minute songs is but what's the other one

Visions and Messiah Complex?
the latter's like 17 minutes lol
Crystallized would be the closest at 19+ minutes.

Whoops. Well thankfully I don't like Crystallized either. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2021, 06:01:41 PM
wait i know what one of the 20+ minute songs is but what's the other one

Visions and Messiah Complex?
the latter's like 17 minutes lol

My bad, I thought it was longer for some reason.

Probably feels like an hour.
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 12, 2021, 06:02:20 PM
Guys I think wolfking loves Haken :heart
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Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2021, 06:07:01 PM
Hacken.
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Post by: King Postwhore on November 12, 2021, 06:16:09 PM
Hacken.

(https://i.postimg.cc/kG3FkHQw/excuse-me.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
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Post by: TAC on November 12, 2021, 06:23:41 PM

My bad, I thought it was longer for some reason.

That's what she said.. :neverusethis:
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Post by: Stadler on November 12, 2021, 07:07:07 PM
Doesn't Haken only have two 20+ minute songs? And doesn't one of them suck? :lol
Crystallized is just under 20 minutes and Celestial Elixir is only 17.

Just one of them?

Boom.

When does this round have to be in? 
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Post by: TAC on November 12, 2021, 07:10:07 PM
Doesn't Haken only have two 20+ minute songs? And doesn't one of them suck? :lol
Crystallized is just under 20 minutes and Celestial Elixir is only 17.

Just one of them?

Boom.

When does this round have to be in?

Now. ;D
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Post by: TAC on November 12, 2021, 07:26:46 PM
Outing people in my PM's is not usually my style, but I thought I'd make an exception. I wanted to share the unbridled enthusiasm for this round.




I don't really care for Haken...


Here are two of my favorite Haken tunes, which you will probably hate  :D


I own one Haken album and it’s good but I can’t say I’ve had much desire to explore them further.


Anyway now to screw things up with my Haken picks. :neverusethis:


I ain't listening to anymore of them. 

Awful band.


I don't think there is a single song by Haken that you will like. I spent the last few days listening to their entire discography and I couldn't come up with something that I think you would like.....




Don't forget, I need a Haken submission first.

Ugh.  Do I have to?   




 :lol :lol :lol

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Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2021, 07:45:37 PM


Don't forget, I need a Haken submission first.

Ugh.  Do I have to?   


 :rollin
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Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2021, 07:46:11 PM
This is going to be a fun week. 
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Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2021, 07:48:59 PM
I wanted to share the unbridled enthusiasm for this round.

I wonder if Tim knows he made a Seinfeld reference there.  A deep cut too I might add.
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Post by: TAC on November 12, 2021, 07:54:17 PM
I wanted to share the unbridled enthusiasm for this round.

I wonder if Tim knows he made a Seinfeld reference there.  A deep cut too I might add.


(https://media0.giphy.com/media/3oz8xHEisOJuebgmhq/giphy.gif)
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Post by: King Postwhore on November 12, 2021, 07:55:57 PM
You guys are wack.  They rule!

(https://i.postimg.cc/SN6W3VtN/20181105-091008.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7fLGT1kp) (https://poemsonly.com/category/friendship)

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Post by: v_clortho on November 12, 2021, 08:09:54 PM
Tim, as a "bonus" any chance you'd give a listen to "The Mighty Masturbator" and "Genesis". I'm just curious.

Deep Peace has my favorite guitar playing ever I think. So good.
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Post by: TAC on November 12, 2021, 08:12:40 PM
Tim, as a "bonus" any chance you'd give a listen to "The Mighty Masturbator" and "Genesis". I'm just curious.

On it, V!


EDIT: So... The Mighty Masturbator is 16 minutes? That IS mighty. :lol
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Post by: TAC on November 12, 2021, 08:38:16 PM
The Mighty Masturbator....

I love the part from 1:30-2:42. As expected, really excellent drumming. Great vocals. Love the keyboard rhythms under the vocals at the 4:40 mark.
Five minutes in and we're good! The vocal effects that start at 5:25 really show you how in control of the music he really is.
6:59....um...what just happened? :lol
Yeah, so let's pretend these next 5 minutes never happened..
The song gets real again at 11:48.
Ends with a real Alice Cooperish final two minutes.


After one listen...I think it's pretty good. I'd have to figure out those middle 5 minutes of WTF before I could grade it. I feel like it'd start around a 7.8 and eventually get to an 8.0.


Genesis...

Q-bert metal!

Not a fan of that wallofsoundblastbeat during/after the chorus "Let there be light" part.. 3:10-5:18....It's like Duran Duran on meth.

This song needs another half dozen listens.

Scoring...after the first listen..7.6...and by the end of the round..7.8.
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Post by: v_clortho on November 12, 2021, 08:44:45 PM
Cool. Thanks.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? DEVsults!
Post by: 425 on November 12, 2021, 09:01:40 PM
I didn't send anything from the first three albums.

This doesn't strike me as the strat but who knows

I sent only things from the first three albums.
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 12, 2021, 10:15:32 PM
Sent.

I really like Haken and have no idea how this will play out.
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Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2021, 10:58:43 PM
I wanted to share the unbridled enthusiasm for this round.

I wonder if Tim knows he made a Seinfeld reference there.  A deep cut too I might add.


(https://media0.giphy.com/media/3oz8xHEisOJuebgmhq/giphy.gif)

 :metal
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Post by: Elite on November 13, 2021, 12:09:29 AM
I really like Haken and have no idea how this will play out.

Yeah. Seeing all the negativity is kind of surprising at least :lol

But to join the fun; I didn’t send my absolute favourite songs, because I don’t think Tim would like those..
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Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 13, 2021, 12:45:12 AM
I really like Haken and have no idea how this will play out.

Yeah. Seeing all the negativity is kind of surprising at least :lol

But to join the fun; I didn’t send my absolute favourite songs, because I don’t think Tim would like those..
I do like Haken, I just know it's not a band for Tim. I expect this to be one of the lowest scoring rounds in roulette history. :corn
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Post by: Kwyjibo on November 13, 2021, 01:12:25 AM
Yeah, I also like Haken, I just don't think it's the right band for Tim. And therefore I just sent two of my favorite songs, without thinking what could be liked by him.
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Post by: Evermind on November 13, 2021, 01:19:17 AM
Sent three songs!
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 13, 2021, 05:02:41 AM
Sent three songs!

(http://replygif.net/i/1320.gif)
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Post by: TAC on November 13, 2021, 06:07:26 AM
The bad news.. Evermind did indeed send three songs.
The good news…They’ve all already been sent so it’s no additional songs.  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 13, 2021, 06:15:23 AM
How many times did you get Prosthetic?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2021, 06:38:50 AM
How many times did you get Prosthetic?

I’m at work so I don’t have access to my worksheet but I think I have it twice.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 13, 2021, 07:13:28 AM
I really like Haken and have no idea how this will play out.

Yeah. Seeing all the negativity is kind of surprising at least :lol
I'm never surprised by how many people do or don't like something, because tastes! But I do find the strength of negativity from people who do like prog metal to be quite surprising. Might partly be exaggerated for effect I guess.

Quite curious to know what songs Kade has sampled.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 13, 2021, 07:16:25 AM
How many times did you get Prosthetic?

:lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 13, 2021, 07:16:46 AM
Quite curious to know what songs Kade has sampled.

The shitty ones.   :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 13, 2021, 07:43:52 AM
I really like Haken and have no idea how this will play out.

Yeah. Seeing all the negativity is kind of surprising at least :lol
I'm never surprised by how many people do or don't like something, because tastes! But I do find the strength of negativity from people who do like prog metal to be quite surprising. Might partly be exaggerated for effect I guess.

Quite curious to know what songs Kade has sampled.

I am not the biggest prog metal enthusiast to begin with, but most of my hang up is Ross’s voice. But I also don’t care for the heavier stuff they’ve done or the stuff with Cookie Monster vocals.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2021, 08:04:07 AM
I really like Haken and have no idea how this will play out.

Yeah. Seeing all the negativity is kind of surprising at least :lol
I'm never surprised by how many people do or don't like something, because tastes! But I do find the strength of negativity from people who do like prog metal to be quite surprising. Might partly be exaggerated for effect I guess.

Quite curious to know what songs Kade has sampled.

I am not the biggest prog metal enthusiast to begin with, but most of my hang up is Ross’s voice. But I also don’t care for the heavier stuff they’ve done or the stuff with Cookie Monster vocals.

Jeez, what else are you left with? That pretty much covered everything.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 13, 2021, 08:06:46 AM
I really like Haken and have no idea how this will play out.

Yeah. Seeing all the negativity is kind of surprising at least :lol
I'm never surprised by how many people do or don't like something, because tastes! But I do find the strength of negativity from people who do like prog metal to be quite surprising. Might partly be exaggerated for effect I guess.

Quite curious to know what songs Kade has sampled.

I am not the biggest prog metal enthusiast to begin with, but most of my hang up is Ross’s voice. But I also don’t care for the heavier stuff they’ve done or the stuff with Cookie Monster vocals.

Jeez, what else are you left with? That pretty much covered everything.  :lol

Basically what I sent you!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 13, 2021, 08:53:55 AM
How many times did you get Prosthetic?

I’m at work so I don’t have access to my worksheet but I think I have it twice.

If this scores well I'm gonna be salty - I was initially planning on sending it as that's their heaviest song but that strategy was a disaster last round so I sent something else. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 13, 2021, 08:57:00 AM
I originally wanted to send Invasion and The Strain but then I sent all my songs from the first three albums because that's what I like and I'm not winning this anyway.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 13, 2021, 09:00:19 AM
Sending only songs from Virus definitely would have been a... decision
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 13, 2021, 09:15:48 AM
I really like Haken and have no idea how this will play out.

Yeah. Seeing all the negativity is kind of surprising at least :lol
I'm never surprised by how many people do or don't like something, because tastes! But I do find the strength of negativity from people who do like prog metal to be quite surprising. Might partly be exaggerated for effect I guess.

Quite curious to know what songs Kade has sampled.

I am not the biggest prog metal enthusiast to begin with, but most of my hang up is Ross’s voice. But I also don’t care for the heavier stuff they’ve done or the stuff with Cookie Monster vocals.
Not sure what you mean about the cookie monster vocals, they've only used harsh vocals on two songs ever (three if you count the demo).

But otherwise, yes I get that Ross seems to be a polarising singer. Personally I love the quality his voice has, but I understand that it doesn't work for others, and that's been the case for ever. That's not really the strong negativity I was referring to though.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 13, 2021, 09:24:16 AM
We'll see how it works out for everyone but I don't really see Tim liking Virus better than, say, Visions.

On the conversation about Haken in general... I see how Ross is a polarizing singer. I also think there's a predictable degree of backlash in the last few years because they're sort of seen as *the* prog metal band now and one could argue that their last couple of albums are somewhat generic (I like those albums, but I'd agree with that criticism). Kind of similar to the backlash against Dream Theater when they were *the* prog metal band.


Also, small thing:

Not sure what you mean about the cookie monster vocals, they've only used harsh vocals on two songs ever (three if you count the demo).

*three. The Point of No Return, Streams and The Architect
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 13, 2021, 09:34:30 AM
Also, small thing:

Not sure what you mean about the cookie monster vocals, they've only used harsh vocals on two songs ever (three if you count the demo).

*three. The Point of No Return, Streams and The Architect
Oh yeah, forgot it was in both No Return and Streams, those first three songs all on Aquarius all kind of blend together. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 13, 2021, 09:39:43 AM
Also, small thing:

Not sure what you mean about the cookie monster vocals, they've only used harsh vocals on two songs ever (three if you count the demo).

*three. The Point of No Return, Streams and The Architect
Oh yeah, forgot it was in both No Return and Streams, those first three songs all on Aquarius all kind of blend together. :lol

Yeah, took me back a step to see an anti growl comment about Haken.

I can totally see being polarized about Ross's voice though, it is unique.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 13, 2021, 09:46:26 AM
Also, small thing:

Not sure what you mean about the cookie monster vocals, they've only used harsh vocals on two songs ever (three if you count the demo).

*three. The Point of No Return, Streams and The Architect
Oh yeah, forgot it was in both No Return and Streams, those first three songs all on Aquarius all kind of blend together. :lol

I’ve only sampled some individual songs outside the one album I own, so I’m guessing I hit on one with Cookie Monster vocals and assumed it was a more frequent occurrence. What I’ve heard from the last two albums sounded pretty heavy too.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 13, 2021, 09:58:16 AM
Also, small thing:

Not sure what you mean about the cookie monster vocals, they've only used harsh vocals on two songs ever (three if you count the demo).

*three. The Point of No Return, Streams and The Architect
Oh yeah, forgot it was in both No Return and Streams, those first three songs all on Aquarius all kind of blend together. :lol

I've listened to The Point of No Return on its own a few times recently; I felt I'd been underestimating it some in the past. So that division is fresh in my mind.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 13, 2021, 10:06:07 AM
Also, small thing:

Not sure what you mean about the cookie monster vocals, they've only used harsh vocals on two songs ever (three if you count the demo).

*three. The Point of No Return, Streams and The Architect
Oh yeah, forgot it was in both No Return and Streams, those first three songs all on Aquarius all kind of blend together. :lol

I’ve only sampled some individual songs outside the one album I own, so I’m guessing I hit on one with Cookie Monster vocals and assumed it was a more frequent occurrence. What I’ve heard from the last two albums sounded pretty heavy too.
Yeah the last two albums (which are linked, hence being similar in style) were more consistently dark and heavy than Haken usually are. I don't expect that to be the case for the next album though, as apart from Virus being a direct sequel to Vector, they do something a bit different each time.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 13, 2021, 11:27:02 AM
honestly if novena had been allowed in this round i probably would've sent The Tyrant in place of one of the songs i sent
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2021, 12:01:54 PM
honestly if novena had been allowed in this round i probably would've sent The Tyrant in place of one of the songs i sent

Everything is allowed...If you want to switch songs, you still can..
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2021, 12:07:00 PM
Just waiting on Stadler and Vmadera.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 13, 2021, 12:07:16 PM
honestly if novena had been allowed in this round i probably would've sent The Tyrant in place of one of the songs i sent

Everything is allowed...If you want to switch songs, you still can..
Novena is a different band, just with the same singer.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2021, 12:13:34 PM
honestly if novena had been allowed in this round i probably would've sent The Tyrant in place of one of the songs i sent

Everything is allowed...If you want to switch songs, you still can..
Novena is a different band, just with the same singer.

Oh, gotcha! Why would I do that? :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 13, 2021, 12:16:48 PM
novena is basically just haken again but sometimes a guy shows up half-drunk from spoken word poetry night
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2021, 12:19:42 PM
novena is basically just haken again but sometimes a guy shows up half-drunk from spoken word poetry night

I started this thread half drunk.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 13, 2021, 12:23:23 PM
i can tell  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 13, 2021, 12:24:35 PM
novena is basically just haken again but sometimes a guy shows up half-drunk from spoken word poetry night

I started this thread half drunk.

See kids, this is why you shouldn't post while drinking.  ;)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 13, 2021, 12:59:23 PM
novena is basically just haken again but sometimes a guy shows up half-drunk from spoken word poetry night
I love Novena and Gareth especially, but this still made me lol. :lol


novena is basically just haken again but sometimes a guy shows up half-drunk from spoken word poetry night

I started this thread half drunk.

See kids, this is why you shouldn't post while drinking.  ;)
The success of round 1 is rather good evidence to the contrary.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 13, 2021, 01:04:58 PM
novena is basically just haken again but sometimes a guy shows up half-drunk from spoken word poetry night
I love Novena and Gareth especially, but this still made me lol. :lol


novena is basically just haken again but sometimes a guy shows up half-drunk from spoken word poetry night

I started this thread half drunk.

See kids, this is why you shouldn't post while drinking.  ;)
The success of round 1 is rather good evidence to the contrary.
Indeed! I think we made a believer out of Tim, at least with regards to Devin Townsend. Which is a huge win in my book. :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2021, 01:07:50 PM
(https://c.tenor.com/H6ELxZejOYYAAAAM/charlie-sheen-winning.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 13, 2021, 01:10:18 PM
Not too confident in my submissions but sent!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 13, 2021, 01:13:42 PM
The Tyrant is :metal

Corazon is also :metal but like less :metal but still awesome!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2021, 01:15:00 PM
Just waiting for one more...

Where's Stadler??




Found him!

(https://i.imgur.com/sVoZoCo.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2021, 01:17:49 PM
Quite curious to know what songs Kade has sampled.

The shitty ones.   :lol

That's all I found.  :lol

Honestly,  I sampled quite a lot.  There was only one song I found that was decent and it would be easy to pick which one it was.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2021, 01:26:14 PM
So, I listened to three songs last night and they were all pretty decent.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: LudwigVan on November 13, 2021, 01:28:00 PM
Everyone sent the same three songs?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2021, 01:30:41 PM
Everyone sent the same three songs?

Pretty much! :lol

I have everyone except Stadler. That's 16 people sending 2 songs each, and the playlist is only 18 songs.


I'll post stats once Stadler submits.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 13, 2021, 01:35:52 PM
Stads is generally not really online at all over the weekend. In my recent roulette, I mostly got Friday submissions from him as I was usually posting results quite early on Friday (quite often before the Americans had even woken up). Whereas later Friday results probably means no Stadler submission until Monday. Just FYI.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 13, 2021, 01:36:59 PM
honestly if novena had been allowed in this round i probably would've sent The Tyrant in place of one of the songs i sent

Everything is allowed...If you want to switch songs, you still can..
Novena is a different band, just with the same singer.

Well that explains why I can't stand Novena either!

novena is basically just haken again but sometimes a guy shows up half-drunk from spoken word poetry night

I started this thread half drunk.

See kids, this is why you shouldn't post while drinking.  ;)

The format of this roulette is definitely a cry for :help:

Quite curious to know what songs Kade has sampled.

The shitty ones.   :lol

That's all I found.  :lol

Honestly,  I sampled quite a lot.  There was only one song I found that was decent and it would be easy to pick which one it was.

I'll assume Haken's shortest song?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 13, 2021, 01:47:36 PM
novena is basically just haken again but sometimes a guy shows up half-drunk from spoken word poetry night
I love Novena and Gareth especially, but this still made me lol. :lol
novena's debut is the best haken album since the mountain and fairly effortlessly so, i like it a lot  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 13, 2021, 01:53:32 PM
honestly if novena had been allowed in this round i probably would've sent The Tyrant in place of one of the songs i sent

Everything is allowed...If you want to switch songs, you still can..

Novena is a different band with Haken's singer in it, though.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2021, 02:03:38 PM
honestly if novena had been allowed in this round i probably would've sent The Tyrant in place of one of the songs i sent

Everything is allowed...If you want to switch songs, you still can..

Novena is a different band with Haken's singer in it, though.

I heard that. :lol



Stads is generally not really online at all over the weekend. In my recent roulette, I mostly got Friday submissions from him as I was usually posting results quite early on Friday (quite often before the Americans had even woken up). Whereas later Friday results probably means no Stadler submission until Monday. Just FYI.

Oh I know that, though when I get up for work, it's only 9am over there.

We built a whole narrative about Stadler going to the spa on weekends when he was the secretary for my anonymous roulette. The above pic was a throwback to that.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2021, 02:19:57 PM

I'll assume Haken's shortest song?

Short instrumental intros weren't allowed.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2021, 02:20:59 PM
So, I listened to three songs last night and they were all pretty decent.

WTF is going on?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 13, 2021, 02:29:30 PM
Everyone sent the same three songs?

Pretty much! :lol

I have everyone except Stadler. That's 16 people sending 2 songs each, and the playlist is only 18 songs.


I'll post stats once Stadler submits.

 :lol guess my submissions are not that unique.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 13, 2021, 02:33:02 PM
So, I listened to three songs last night and they were all pretty decent.

WTF is going on?

It's Bizarro-TAC

(https://i.redd.it/ejes2ilf26m51.png)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2021, 02:39:14 PM
Everyone sent the same three songs?

Pretty much! :lol

I have everyone except Stadler. That's 16 people sending 2 songs each, and the playlist is only 18 songs.


I'll post stats once Stadler submits.

 :lol guess my submissions are not that unique.

Only ONE person sent TWO songs that are unique only to them.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2021, 02:43:15 PM
Gonna be a short round then.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2021, 02:45:26 PM
Gonna be a short round then.

It's still 2h24m, with Stadler still to send.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2021, 02:48:08 PM
I'd still take Ross Jennings over Damian Wilson.



Actually the playlist only has 17 songs. Somehow The Path snuck in there.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 13, 2021, 02:54:49 PM
I'd still take Ross Jennings over Damian Wilson.

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/26BkLCUdp1lqUA2JO/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2021, 03:19:56 PM
One of my surprise albums in 2018 was Structural Disorder's ...and the Cage Crumbles In The Final Scene (https://open.spotify.com/album/3IiK4cckIsfbDFEBztjKVZ?si=EXEuyZWXRMGu6X2zKp9qXA)

So far...Haken sounds like a heavier and more progressive version. I hear a lot of that album in what I've heard so far.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 13, 2021, 03:20:15 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/vTw698pt/20211113171602.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2021, 03:22:33 PM
 :rollin :rollin :rollin

Ross Jingles!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 13, 2021, 03:25:42 PM
One of my surprise albums in 2018 was Structural Disorder's ...and the Cage Crumbles In The Final Scene (https://open.spotify.com/album/3IiK4cckIsfbDFEBztjKVZ?si=EXEuyZWXRMGu6X2zKp9qXA)

So far...Haken sounds like a heavier and more progressive version. I hear a lot of that album in what I've heard so far.
oh yeah no this album was a total and blatant haken ripoff, but like, really good so who cares lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2021, 03:27:48 PM
One of my surprise albums in 2018 was Structural Disorder's ...and the Cage Crumbles In The Final Scene (https://open.spotify.com/album/3IiK4cckIsfbDFEBztjKVZ?si=EXEuyZWXRMGu6X2zKp9qXA)

So far...Haken sounds like a heavier and more progressive version. I hear a lot of that album in what I've heard so far.
oh yeah no this album was a total and blatant haken ripoff, but like, really good so who cares lol


Totally!

It's really standing out in the song I'm listening to now.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 13, 2021, 04:22:03 PM
Yeah I remember when I heard that album thinking "hey cool, Haken are now big enough that they're influencing other bands!"

As you say though Cyril, it does go into rip-off territory at times. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 13, 2021, 04:22:47 PM
That's promising for us, especially those who submitted older stuff.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 13, 2021, 05:00:32 PM
I bet at least one, if not both, of the songs I sent were sent by someone else as well.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 13, 2021, 05:01:23 PM
Novena is a different band with Haken's singer in it, though.

I heard that. :lol

Damn, sorry, missed the turn to the next page.  :lol


Actually the playlist only has 17 songs. Somehow The Path snuck in there.

So someone probably sent Atlas Stone, which wouldn't be all that surprising.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 13, 2021, 05:39:54 PM
Everyone sent the same three songs?

Pretty much! :lol

I have everyone except Stadler. That's 16 people sending 2 songs each, and the playlist is only 18 songs.


I'll post stats once Stadler submits.

 :lol guess my submissions are not that unique.

Only ONE person sent TWO songs that are unique only to them.
Maybe me? :corn

I'd still take Ross Jennings over Damian Wilson.
Speaking truth right there!

So someone probably sent Atlas Stone, which wouldn't be all that surprising.
Wouldn't surprise me.
Now was anyone drunk enough to send Cockroach King?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 13, 2021, 05:43:18 PM
Cockroach King is, I think, literally the last song I would consider sending in this round.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2021, 05:44:33 PM
Everyone sent the same three songs?

Pretty much! :lol

I have everyone except Stadler. That's 16 people sending 2 songs each, and the playlist is only 18 songs.


I'll post stats once Stadler submits.

 :lol guess my submissions are not that unique.

Only ONE person sent TWO songs that are unique only to them.
Maybe me? :corn

No. In fact one other person sent the exact same two songs as you did.

I don't want to go too deep into the stats until Stadler sends.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 13, 2021, 05:54:00 PM
Cockroach King is, I think, literally the last song I would consider sending in this round.

I'm sure at least one person sent that song.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 13, 2021, 06:12:26 PM
cockroach king would have been incredibly funny to send but i'm not funny enough to have sent it, sadly
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 13, 2021, 06:24:33 PM
Everyone sent the same three songs?

Pretty much! :lol

I have everyone except Stadler. That's 16 people sending 2 songs each, and the playlist is only 18 songs.


I'll post stats once Stadler submits.

 :lol guess my submissions are not that unique.

Only ONE person sent TWO songs that are unique only to them.
Maybe me? :corn

No. In fact one other person sent the exact same two songs as you did.

Wow, color me surprised.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 13, 2021, 06:28:53 PM
Pretty sure nobody else sent my 2nd song.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 13, 2021, 06:29:55 PM
Pretty sure nobody else sent my 2nd song.
You sent Crystallized didn't you....
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 13, 2021, 06:31:05 PM
Pretty sure nobody else sent my 2nd song.
You sent Crystallized didn't you....

Fuck no! That’s my least favorite of their 15+ minute so- oh wait Messiah Complex exists. Nevermind.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2021, 06:42:13 PM
Pretty sure nobody else sent my 2nd song.

At least one other person did.



But I don't want any sent songs named until Stadler sends.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 13, 2021, 06:43:41 PM
Pretty sure nobody else sent my 2nd song.
You sent Crystallized didn't you....

Fuck no! That’s my least favorite of their 15+ minute so- oh wait Messiah Complex exists. Nevermind.
:neverusethis:

I'm trying to nail down my BtBaM submission. Still haven't settled on both songs. Initially I was just going to send The Ectopic Stroll and Voice of Trespass, but that might be too much weirdness for TAC  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2021, 06:50:45 PM
Gonna be a short round then.

It's still 2h24m, with Stadler still to send.

You poor bastard.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 13, 2021, 06:51:48 PM
my BTBAM picks are probably not great but they make the most sense to me
idk how to sell BTBAM to TAC anyways, though, so whatever
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2021, 06:58:55 PM
my BTBAM picks are probably not great but they make the most sense to me
idk how to sell BTBAM to TAC anyways, though, so whatever
I was doing a deep dive on them in the BTBAM Thread before the new DT came out.
I thought Colors and The Great Misdirect were really good. And I liked their first album.

I thought I'd use  roulette round to finish them off so I won't have to. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 13, 2021, 07:05:24 PM
idk how to sell BTBAM to TAC anyways, though, so whatever
Send Autumn and Sfumato  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 13, 2021, 07:21:02 PM
if you liked colors and TGM then i'm pretty sure i made good choices  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2021, 07:26:26 PM
if you liked colors and TGM then i'm pretty sure i made good choices  :corn

 :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 13, 2021, 09:22:51 PM
Just assume Stads will send 2 of the already sent songs. I can't believe we were all so in sync.

I had to run out today and listened to the run of The Mind's Eye / Portals / Shapeshifter from Visions. Why is that not one song? It is to me and that is how I ripped it to my iPod. One cohesive 17+ minute track and my favorite piece from them. I honestly would have sent that had it been one song, even at the long length. Visions is still my favorite album of theirs.

I really wanted to send 1985 but chickened out. Didn't feel TAC would like it or might find it corny. They so nailed the retro on that song.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 13, 2021, 09:41:16 PM
Just assume Stads will send 2 of the already sent songs. I can't believe we were all so in sync.

I had to run out today and listened to the run of The Mind's Eye / Portals / Shapeshifter from Visions. Why is that not one song? It is to me and that is how I ripped it to my iPod. One cohesive 17+ minute track and my favorite piece from them. I honestly would have sent that had it been one song, even at the long length. Visions is still my favorite album of theirs.

I really wanted to send 1985 but chickened out. Didn't feel TAC would like it or might find it corny. They so nailed the retro on that song.
:corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 13, 2021, 09:46:19 PM
Just assume Stads will send 2 of the already sent songs. I can't believe we were all so in sync.

I had to run out today and listened to the run of The Mind's Eye / Portals / Shapeshifter from Visions. Why is that not one song? It is to me and that is how I ripped it to my iPod. One cohesive 17+ minute track and my favorite piece from them. I honestly would have sent that had it been one song, even at the long length. Visions is still my favorite album of theirs.

I really wanted to send 1985 but chickened out. Didn't feel TAC would like it or might find it corny. They so nailed the retro on that song.
:corn
:corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 13, 2021, 10:08:14 PM
Just assume Stads will send 2 of the already sent songs. I can't believe we were all so in sync.

I had to run out today and listened to the run of The Mind's Eye / Portals / Shapeshifter from Visions. Why is that not one song? It is to me and that is how I ripped it to my iPod. One cohesive 17+ minute track and my favorite piece from them. I honestly would have sent that had it been one song, even at the long length. Visions is still my favorite album of theirs.

I really wanted to send 1985 but chickened out. Didn't feel TAC would like it or might find it corny. They so nailed the retro on that song.
:corn
:corn
:corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2021, 10:38:29 PM
Just assume Stads will send 2 of the already sent songs. I can't believe we were all so in sync.

I had to run out today and listened to the run of The Mind's Eye / Portals / Shapeshifter from Visions. Why is that not one song? It is to me and that is how I ripped it to my iPod. One cohesive 17+ minute track and my favorite piece from them. I honestly would have sent that had it been one song, even at the long length. Visions is still my favorite album of theirs.

I really wanted to send 1985 but chickened out. Didn't feel TAC would like it or might find it corny. They so nailed the retro on that song.
:corn
:corn
:corn

 :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 13, 2021, 10:44:24 PM
Okay how many people sent 1985 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 13, 2021, 10:47:29 PM
I did not send 1985. I think it's a solid song but I don't really get why it's so beloved compared even to other songs on the same album.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 14, 2021, 12:32:07 AM
1985 isn't even that good  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 14, 2021, 01:09:35 AM
I did not send 1985. I think it's a solid song but I don't really get why it's so beloved compared even to other songs on the same album.

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 14, 2021, 03:21:45 AM
Just assume Stads will send 2 of the already sent songs. I can't believe we were all so in sync.

I had to run out today and listened to the run of The Mind's Eye / Portals / Shapeshifter from Visions. Why is that not one song? It is to me and that is how I ripped it to my iPod. One cohesive 17+ minute track and my favorite piece from them. I honestly would have sent that had it been one song, even at the long length. Visions is still my favorite album of theirs.

I really wanted to send 1985 but chickened out. Didn't feel TAC would like it or might find it corny. They so nailed the retro on that song.
:corn
:corn
:corn

 :corn

 :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2021, 03:30:06 AM
Kind of hard to predict what or if any later BTBAM Tim would like.  Probably just gotta throw a couple of songs you like in there and hope for the best.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2021, 03:40:15 AM
This is actually really difficult.  With BTBAM, I don't listen to songs and look at each track as a different song.  I always put on one of their CD's and listen to the whole thing as a singular experience, a whole one piece if that makes sense.  I find each of their albums and one of the only bands where I don't even really know the song names I'm listening to half the time as the whole album is the complete experience.  Trying to pick apart 2 different songs is near impossible.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 14, 2021, 04:55:07 AM
I agree Kade, BTBAM are all about albums really, even many of the songs that are more distinctive often segue in and/or out of other ones.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 14, 2021, 06:45:33 AM
I agree Kade, BTBAM are all about albums really, even many of the songs that are more distinctive often segue in and/or out of other ones.

So should we all just agree to pick 2-3 albums and everyone sends a different song from those albums (to avoid repetition)  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 14, 2021, 06:56:13 AM
I don’t mind repetition, really.  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 14, 2021, 09:03:39 AM
I did not send 1985. I think it's a solid song but I don't really get why it's so beloved compared even to other songs on the same album.

Well, I'm not sending my favorites from every artist. I'm analyzing every track and trying to decide if he'll like it or not. I didn't send my favorite Devin and kind of sent one fave from Haken. I know I'm not sending faves from Neal and Opeth.

1985 felt like a track that he would like based on his like for the older music and such. I just bailed and went another direction which I felt was safer (and will probably blow up in my face).  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 14, 2021, 10:18:58 AM
1985 isn't even that good  :corn

It's only their best song. :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 14, 2021, 10:19:44 AM
1985 isn't even that good  :corn

It's only their best song. :corn
Oooh, that might be stretching it a bit, but you aren't far off. :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 14, 2021, 10:28:07 AM
Stadler is in and…. no new songs! :lol





Going to my MiL’s this afternoon. Stats later today.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 14, 2021, 10:39:41 AM
1985 is awesome, plus I imagine Tim will at least find it enjoyable.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 14, 2021, 10:43:14 AM
That time Ross posed for me during 1985...

(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/158139211_197379848821063_7336886624637109801_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=tn4SuO-_DFAAX-nOl_X&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=fc71fab5ff6c87f41fd798ebb647a112&oe=61B52CCF)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 14, 2021, 10:54:48 AM
1985 is awesome, plus I imagine Tim will at least find it enjoyable.

 :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 14, 2021, 11:01:16 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/159V4qYr/20181104-222108.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w3GjG7z1)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 14, 2021, 11:59:10 AM
1985 isn't even that good  :corn

It's only their best song. :corn

I just cannot comprehend thinking this of the band that recorded Celestial Elixir, Visions and Falling Back to Earth. It's like saying Peruvian Skies is Dream Theater's best song. Tastes are super weird.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 14, 2021, 12:00:58 PM
i literally do not remember what 1985 sounds like to be fair

affinity has not stuck with me even a tiny bit. thoroughly average album in hindsight.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 14, 2021, 12:03:30 PM
their desiiiiiign shifting frame by fraaaaaame

I had to remind myself too, and I think I like Affinity better than you do.

I literally think I would only rank 1985 ahead of Initiate among the real songs on that album.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 14, 2021, 01:01:41 PM
That time Ross posed for me during 1985...
That time I had a drink with Ross before the Novena show two weeks ago. :P


I just cannot comprehend thinking this of the band that recorded Celestial Elixir, Visions and Falling Back to Earth. It's like saying Peruvian Skies is Dream Theater's best song. Tastes are super weird.
Whereas I can't comprehend your logic as those three songs are all completely different to each other, so I don't get the comparison (other than presumably you loving all those songs). Tastes are super awesome.


In terms of Affinity, the run of Earthrise - Red Giant - The Endless Knot is where it's at for me, but 1985 ranks just behind those three.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 14, 2021, 01:09:33 PM
I just cannot comprehend thinking this of the band that recorded Celestial Elixir, Visions and Falling Back to Earth. It's like saying Peruvian Skies is Dream Theater's best song. Tastes are super weird.
Whereas I can't comprehend your logic as those three songs are all completely different to each other, so I don't get the comparison (other than presumably you loving all those songs). Tastes are super awesome.

Yeah, it's not a matter of style, it's a matter of perceived quality, which I'm obviously not arguing is objectively provable (I don't want to range that wildly in this thread). I could have named other examples, but those are three songs that I think are way better than 1985 (and that I think tend to be popular among Haken fans).

It's like if I compared Peruvian Skies to Metropolis, The Glass Prison and Octavarium. To me, those three songs are far better than Peruvian Skies. And so I would be surprised (:neverusethis:) if someone liked Peruvian Skies better. I have similar feelings of surprise at people liking 1985 better than Celestial Elixir, Visions and Falling Back to Earth. But it's not a personal criticism, just a discussion of preferences.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 14, 2021, 01:11:09 PM
Telling on myself, but 1985 is the only reason I own a Haken album.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 14, 2021, 01:15:29 PM
I just cannot comprehend thinking this of the band that recorded Celestial Elixir, Visions and Falling Back to Earth. It's like saying Peruvian Skies is Dream Theater's best song. Tastes are super weird.
Whereas I can't comprehend your logic as those three songs are all completely different to each other, so I don't get the comparison (other than presumably you loving all those songs). Tastes are super awesome.

Yeah, it's not a matter of style, it's a matter of perceived quality, which I'm obviously not arguing is objectively provable (I don't want to range that wildly in this thread). I could have named other examples, but those are three songs that I think are way better than 1985 (and that I think tend to be popular among Haken fans).

It's like if I compared Peruvian Skies to Metropolis, The Glass Prison and Octavarium. To me, those three songs are far better than Peruvian Skies. And so I would be surprised (:neverusethis:) if someone liked Peruvian Skies better. I have similar feelings of surprise at people liking 1985 better than Celestial Elixir, Visions and Falling Back to Earth. But it's not a personal criticism, just a discussion of preferences.
Yeah of course, I guess for me it's precisely because they're all different in style (including 1985), that I don't at all find it odd or unusual or surprising that some people will like some more than others. I love all four of those songs, but some others that are mostly loved (like The Architect) I find pretty much weaker.

Ultimately for me it comes down to the fact that Haken are one of those bands whose talent and songwriting are just consistently excellent, and so the songs than any fan likes more or less (or in some cases even dislikes) is mostly going to come down to taste in terms of style.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 14, 2021, 01:29:49 PM
Peruvian Skies is an awesome track! And so is 1985!

:biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 14, 2021, 01:35:39 PM
Peruvian Skies is better than 1985
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 14, 2021, 01:36:12 PM
Maybe
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 14, 2021, 01:39:51 PM
If we’re comparing 1985 to DT songs, it’s a lot closer musically/sonically to something like Take the Time or Innocence Faded than Peruvian Skies. Also reminds me a good bit of an album I know TAC hates, so interested to see what the reaction is.

 :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 14, 2021, 01:41:29 PM
I agree with the musical comparison. Peruvian Skies was just my go-to choice of a DT song that I think general consensus holds is good, but not among their best.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 14, 2021, 01:48:47 PM
I agree with the musical comparison. Peruvian Skies was just my go-to choice of a DT song that I think general consensus holds is good, but not among their best.

I don't know what songs Haken fans generally prefer, but it makes sense that DT fans would also like 1985.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2021, 02:02:18 PM
I agree Kade, BTBAM are all about albums really, even many of the songs that are more distinctive often segue in and/or out of other ones.

Absolutrly.  The songs on their own for me seem only a piece of a full puzzle.  You need every song of the album to connect a gigantic masterpiece.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 14, 2021, 03:16:30 PM
Stats!

17 participants...34 song entries, but due to duplications the round is only:
17 songs at 2h22m


1985 and Prosthetic were both sent 4 times


Kwyjibo is the only one that sent TWO songs that no one else did.


Puppies and Ariich sent the same two songs.

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 14, 2021, 03:20:17 PM
Puppies and Ariich sent the same two songs.
I figured after the last round, if I can't beat Ariich, join him! :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 14, 2021, 03:21:38 PM

1985 and Prosthetic were both sent by times

Wait....how many times?  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 14, 2021, 03:24:06 PM

1985 and Prosthetic were both sent by times

Wait....how many times?  :lol

 :lol     Fixed!




Puppies and Ariich sent the same two songs.
I figured after the last round, if I can't beat Ariich, join him! :biggrin:

That's the first thing I thought. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 14, 2021, 03:28:10 PM
So, did I send at least one unique song, or not?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 14, 2021, 03:30:18 PM
Puppies and Ariich sent the same two songs.
I figured after the last round, if I can't beat Ariich, join him! :biggrin:
o/
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 14, 2021, 03:35:59 PM

1985 and Prosthetic were both sent by times

Wait....how many times?  :lol

How's it feel Tim?  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 14, 2021, 03:44:21 PM
So, did I send at least one unique song, or not?

Yes.

Elite, Lonestar, Professor, and HOF all sent one unique song.






1985 and Prosthetic were both sent by times

Wait....how many times?  :lol

How's it feel Tim?  :lol

I'm not even going to begin to explain how that happened. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 14, 2021, 03:45:30 PM
And now you know   :lol

So is both my songs send by multiple people?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 14, 2021, 03:47:44 PM
And now you know   :lol

Oh, I know. :lol




So is are both my songs sendt by multiple people?

Fixed! ;D

and yes!



I'll post the songs once we flip to the next page in a couple of posts..

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 14, 2021, 04:06:06 PM
 :biggrin: :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 14, 2021, 04:08:21 PM
honestly surprised nobody else doubled up on the specific songs i sent, which means that i'm probably gunning for a bottom 3 spot again  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 14, 2021, 04:09:29 PM
honestly surprised nobody else doubled up on the specific songs i sent, which means that i'm probably gunning for a bottom 3 spot again  :lol

Both of your songs were sent by other people.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 14, 2021, 04:09:57 PM
See..

Cyril
Falling Back To Earth
Pareidolia

Romdrums
The Endless Knot
Pareidolia

LudwigVan
Prosthetic
The Endless Knot

Kingshmegland
Veil
Carousel

Lonestar
Darkest Light
Atlas Stone


Buddy
Veil
1985


Kwyjibo
Nocturnal Conspiracy
Deathless


425
Drowning In The Flood
In Memoriam

Elite
Puzzle Box
The Strain

HOF
1985
Lapse


Ariich
Falling Back To Earth
1985


Wolfking
Prosthetic
Puzzle Box

Puppies
Falling Back To Earth
1985


Evermind
Pareidolia
Drowning In The Flood


ProfessorPeart
Prosthetic
Shapeshifter


Vmadera
Darkest Light
Puzzle Box


Stadler
Prosthetic
Carousel


https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7fqOhZQUxeCGzGrzrVLCHU?si=bdf62ffdd186400e
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 14, 2021, 04:25:37 PM
So I sent a unique song as well, right? No one else sent In Memoriam.

Besides myself, I'm rooting for Cyril and Evermind (and not just because he and I both sent Drowning in the Flood). Pareidolia is a great song.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 14, 2021, 04:28:37 PM
So I sent a unique song as well, right? No one else sent In Memoriam.

Besides myself, I'm rooting for Cyril and Evermind (and not just because he and I both sent Drowning in the Flood). Pareidolia is a great song.

Well, technically, Evermind sent In Memoriam too as he used his Wild Card™. ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 14, 2021, 04:30:22 PM
That doesn't bode great for me! But thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 14, 2021, 04:34:19 PM
That doesn't bode great for me!

Well, it means that there are at least two songs that will beat it, but one of them is your other song.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 14, 2021, 04:44:02 PM
True! Now I have to root for Evermind and Cyril even harder. And romdrums!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 14, 2021, 04:47:16 PM
Wow, surprised Darkest Light was the one sent twice, I sent that to try and not get a repeat.

Was very close to sending Pareidolia as well. Also surprised no one sent Earthrise
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 14, 2021, 04:51:31 PM
Wow, surprised Darkest Light was the one sent twice, I sent that to try and not get a repeat.

After one listen, I'm surprised it was sent at all.















I'm kidding. ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 14, 2021, 04:59:07 PM
Oh you....
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 14, 2021, 05:02:44 PM
honestly surprised nobody else doubled up on the specific songs i sent, which means that i'm probably gunning for a bottom 3 spot again  :lol

Both of your songs were sent by other people.
yeah but nobody sent the same two songs as me, i mean  :lol
both were sent three times in total though which does not surprise me at all
in memoriam losing the wildcard also doesn't surprise me because it's the weakest track on the mountain  ;D
on one hand i understand drowning in the flood as a song pick but also i don't think the entire slower back half is gonna do much for TAC, we'll see i guess, i'm probably completely wrong  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 14, 2021, 05:05:38 PM
honestly surprised nobody else doubled up on the specific songs i sent, which means that i'm probably gunning for a bottom 3 spot again  :lol

Both of your songs were sent by other people.
yeah but nobody sent the same two songs as me, i mean  :lol


Well, at least Ariich also sent one of your songs, so you really do have a chance. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 14, 2021, 05:12:41 PM
I'm a little disappointed nobody manned up and sent Cockroach King.

Personally I don't like that song, but I think Tim's reaction to it would be funny. :corn
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Post by: TAC on November 14, 2021, 05:14:54 PM
I'm a little disappointed nobody manned up and sent Cockroach King.

Personally I don't like that song, but I think Tim's reaction to it would be funny. :corn

I'm doing second listens tonight, so I'm off to a good start for the week. If someone reminds me, I'll bang it out after Results.
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Post by: Crow on November 14, 2021, 05:23:00 PM
cockroach king is an unironic masterpiece and probably my second favorite off the album (behind only falling back to earth, of course) and would have been incredibly funny to watch TAC dunk on
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Post by: King Postwhore on November 14, 2021, 05:23:16 PM
I'm surprised more didn't send Atlas Stone. I didn't because I though so many others would send it.
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Post by: TAC on November 14, 2021, 05:28:28 PM
I'm surprised more didn't send Atlas Stone. I didn't because I though so many others would send it.

You still sent songs that other people sent. Even Stadler. :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on November 14, 2021, 05:34:46 PM
Stads had his family weekend and went,  "Oh shit!" and screwed me.  :lol
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Post by: TAC on November 14, 2021, 05:38:46 PM
Stads had his family weekend and went,  "Oh shit!" and screwed me.  :lol

Took the family bowling and showed off in front of the boys!

(https://i.imgur.com/Stdjg7u.jpg)
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Post by: King Postwhore on November 14, 2021, 05:46:53 PM
I had a blast making those pics. Lol
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Post by: TAC on November 14, 2021, 06:04:23 PM
I had a blast making those pics. Lol

Good times!
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Post by: 425 on November 14, 2021, 06:22:50 PM
in memoriam losing the wildcard also doesn't surprise me because it's the weakest track on the mountain  ;D
on one hand i understand drowning in the flood as a song pick but also i don't think the entire slower back half is gonna do much for TAC, we'll see i guess, i'm probably completely wrong  :lol

I think In Memoriam is their best heavy short song, which I thought would be a good place to be if Tim turns out to still just not be a fan of Haken.

I went with Drowning in the Flood because I wanted something off Aquarius (which is essentially tied with The Mountain as my favorite Haken album) and Celestial Elixir felt a little too risky because length and circus. I nearly doubled down on Aquarius songs with Drowning in the Flood and Eternal Rain, but decided to go for a bit of diversity.
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Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 14, 2021, 06:27:33 PM
in memoriam losing the wildcard also doesn't surprise me because it's the weakest track on the mountain  ;D
on one hand i understand drowning in the flood as a song pick but also i don't think the entire slower back half is gonna do much for TAC, we'll see i guess, i'm probably completely wrong  :lol

I think In Memoriam is their best heavy short song, which I thought would be a good place to be if Tim turns out to still just not be a fan of Haken.

I went with Drowning in the Flood because I wanted something off Aquarius (which is essentially tied with The Mountain as my favorite Haken album) and Celestial Elixir felt a little too risky because length and circus. I nearly doubled down on Aquarius songs with Drowning in the Flood and Eternal Rain, but decided to go for a bit of diversity.
I almost went with Celestial Elixir too and The Architect, but didn't want to overwhelm Tim with length.  ;)
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Post by: 425 on November 14, 2021, 06:39:35 PM
I think it would've been cool to see how Celestial Elixir did, but I'm not confident enough in it to put my own points on the line in this roulette.

Interesting to see the spread across albums. We have:
Aquarius: 1 song, 2 submissions
Visions: 3 songs, 3 submissions
The Mountain: 4 songs, 8 submissions
Restoration: 1 song, 2 submissions
Affinity: 3 songs, 7 submissions
Vector: 2 songs, 5 submissions
Virus: 3 songs, 7 submissions

I'm surprised at how popular the newer material is for this. Less so for Affinity, which I expected to be second to The Mountain, but it's a little surprising to see Vector with as many submissions as the first two albums combined, and Virus with as many as the first two albums and Restoration combined.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 14, 2021, 06:41:22 PM
I think it would've been cool to see how Celestial Elixir did, but I'm not confident enough in it to put my own points on the line in this roulette.

Interesting to see the spread across albums. We have:
Aquarius: 1 song, 2 submissions
Visions: 3 songs, 3 submissions
The Mountain: 4 songs, 8 submissions
Restoration: 1 song, 2 submissions
Affinity: 3 songs, 7 submissions
Vector: 2 songs, 5 submissions
Virus: 3 songs, 7 submissions

I'm surprised at how popular the newer material is for this. Less so for Affinity, which I expected to be second to The Mountain, but it's a little surprising to see Vector with as many submissions as the first two albums combined, and Virus with as many as the first two albums and Restoration combined.

(https://i.imgflip.com/5u6qum.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 14, 2021, 06:46:28 PM
:lol You're welcome
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 14, 2021, 07:08:41 PM
We all have "The heavier, the better" with TAC in mind.
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Post by: TAC on November 14, 2021, 07:15:48 PM
We all have "The heavier, the better" with TAC in mind.

But that's not always the smartest move. Yeah, I like metal, but I really want to know what makes these bands special. I don't listen to Dream Theater for their metal side. I like that they take a metal styled interpretation of progressive rock.

That's why sending HEAVY Devin or HEAVY Haken could prove risky.
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Post by: King Postwhore on November 14, 2021, 07:20:39 PM
Safe Devy didn't work.  It wasn't heavy or exploratory enough. Changed that this round.
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Post by: TAC on November 14, 2021, 07:23:19 PM
Safe Devy didn't work.  It wasn't heavy or exploratory enough. Changed that this round.

Well, you sent the 9th best song....and the 3rd worst. ;D
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Post by: King Postwhore on November 14, 2021, 07:25:00 PM
Exactly.
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 14, 2021, 08:08:41 PM
Kingshmegland
Veil

Ah, I see you’re a man of taste as well.
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Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2021, 08:28:06 PM
Wait, there's heavy Haken??
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Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 14, 2021, 09:20:10 PM
Wait, there's heavy Haken??
It's all relative. :dunno:
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Post by: ariich on November 14, 2021, 11:34:39 PM
Very interesting submissions, almost all songs I love but some I wouldn't have sent Tim as an introduction so will be fascinated to see what he thinks.


Elite
Puzzle Box
The Strain
Thank you to Richard for sending the two songs that my brother had guest appearances on. :lol Apart from Only Stars obviously. I considered those songs (well, mainly Puzzle Box) as I love them plus to support Pete, but I wasn't sure about Tim's attitude towards the electronic percussion sections so ended up going with songs I thought would be safer.


I think In Memoriam is their best heavy short song, which I thought would be a good place to be if Tim turns out to still just not be a fan of Haken.
In Memoriam is brilliant, I considered it too. I might slightly prefer The Endless Knot but yet those two are awesome short, heavy songs.


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Post by: Kwyjibo on November 15, 2021, 12:18:03 AM
Kwyjibo is the only one that sent TWO songs that no one else did.

This is a good sign, is it?  :)
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Post by: Elite on November 15, 2021, 02:11:34 AM
Very interesting submissions, almost all songs I love but some I wouldn't have sent Tim as an introduction so will be fascinated to see what he thinks.


Elite
Puzzle Box
The Strain
Thank you to Richard for sending the two songs that my brother had guest appearances on. :lol Apart from Only Stars obviously. I considered those songs (well, mainly Puzzle Box) as I love them plus to support Pete, but I wasn't sure about Tim's attitude towards the electronic percussion sections so ended up going with songs I thought would be safer.

:lol

I found it quite difficult to pick two songs as well, mainly because I was unsure what Tim would think of the longer songs the band has. I decided to go with two relatively short ones that also go well together. (The Puzzle Box 'reprise' in The Strain for example, but also indeed the softer sections). These are not my favourite Haken songs, although they would be top 10-15, in fact I'm a little surprised myself that I went with two tracks from their latest two albums, but I hipe they'll do well. There's enough to love in both tracks.

Also, nobody sent Invasion :(
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Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 03:29:06 AM
Some morning thoughts  as everyone ahakens.

Sorry, that was awful.


So....after TWO listens...

This is a great bunch of tunes. A handful are EXCELLENT!
The vocals are a non issue, bitches.
Lots of DT here.
One of the guitarists tunes low. I don't like that.
Of the two songs that were sent the most, right now Prosthetic > 1985.



First Impressions will be posted when I get home from work this afternoon.
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Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2021, 03:32:40 AM
Not sure if we can be friends anymore Tim.
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Post by: Elite on November 15, 2021, 04:56:30 AM
One of the guitarists tunes low. I don't like that.

Well, shit :lol

A lot of their songs use extended range guitars (7 or 8-strings), and sometimes the eighth string is even tuned to a low E instead of F# (in 1985 for example). Of the ones I sent, Puzzle Box is played on 7 strings, and I'm pretty sure The Strain doesn't go lower than that low B either.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2021, 05:21:17 AM
Kwyjibo is the only one that sent TWO songs that no one else did.

This is a good sign, is it?  :)

You might want to check your sig.   :lol

Not sure if we can be friends anymore Tim.

You’re losing a DTF friend every week it seems!   :rollin
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Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 05:31:11 AM
Not sure if we can be friends anymore Tim.

We’re still good. I’ll just have to leave you home for the Haken concert.  ;D
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Post by: lonestar on November 15, 2021, 05:41:39 AM
If vocs aren't an issue, we're all sitting pretty.
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Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 05:53:19 AM
If vocs aren't an issue, we're all sitting pretty.

You’re all pretty. It’s just a matter of who’s prettier?
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Post by: Elite on November 15, 2021, 06:08:22 AM
Not sure if we can be friends anymore Tim.

We’re still good. I’ll just have to leave you home for the Haken concert.  ;D

They're fun to watch live. Trust me, I've seen them a couple of times already :lol
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Post by: Lonk on November 15, 2021, 06:15:14 AM
Not sure if we can be friends anymore Tim.

We’re still good. I’ll just have to leave you home for the Haken concert.  ;D

They're fun to watch live. Trust me, I've seen them a couple of times already :lol

The one time I saw them they were playing DT songs only :lol
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Post by: lonestar on November 15, 2021, 06:45:03 AM
Not sure if we can be friends anymore Tim.

We’re still good. I’ll just have to leave you home for the Haken concert.  ;D

They're fun to watch live. Trust me, I've seen them a couple of times already :lol

The one time I saw them they were playing DT songs only :lol

Still bitter they didn't bring that one to the west coast.
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Post by: Elite on November 15, 2021, 07:18:42 AM
Not sure if we can be friends anymore Tim.

We’re still good. I’ll just have to leave you home for the Haken concert.  ;D

They're fun to watch live. Trust me, I've seen them a couple of times already :lol

The one time I saw them they were playing DT songs only :lol

#justiceforray
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Post by: 425 on November 15, 2021, 07:47:28 AM
This is a great bunch of tunes. A handful are EXCELLENT!
The vocals are a non issue, bitches.

Gonna be wild if every round turns out to be a huge success.
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 15, 2021, 07:51:02 AM
This is a great bunch of tunes. A handful are EXCELLENT!
The vocals are a non issue, bitches.

Gonna be wild if every round turns out to be a huge success.

Steven Wilson:
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/028/434/We_Believe__The_Best_Men_Can_Be___Gillette_(Short_Film)_1-4_screenshot.jpg)
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Post by: Stadler on November 15, 2021, 08:00:33 AM
Very interesting submissions, almost all songs I love but some I wouldn't have sent Tim as an introduction so will be fascinated to see what he thinks.


Elite
Puzzle Box
The Strain
Thank you to Richard for sending the two songs that my brother had guest appearances on. :lol Apart from Only Stars obviously. I considered those songs (well, mainly Puzzle Box) as I love them plus to support Pete, but I wasn't sure about Tim's attitude towards the electronic percussion sections so ended up going with songs I thought would be safer.

:lol

I found it quite difficult to pick two songs as well, mainly because I was unsure what Tim would think of the longer songs the band has. I decided to go with two relatively short ones that also go well together. (The Puzzle Box 'reprise' in The Strain for example, but also indeed the softer sections). These are not my favourite Haken songs, although they would be top 10-15, in fact I'm a little surprised myself that I went with two tracks from their latest two albums, but I hipe they'll do well. There's enough to love in both tracks.

Also, nobody sent Invasion :(

I was THISCLOSE to sending Invasion, actually.  I cut it at the last minute for another song from that album.

Look, I wasn't a Haken fan going in, and I'm still not, but those mofo's can PLAY.  It's about MY taste, not them sucking, for sure.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2021, 08:08:40 AM
(https://c.tenor.com/odyVsZbC-OYAAAAC/why-not-both-why-not.gif)

My tastes tell me they suck.
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Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 08:13:39 AM
Why are Haken so polarizing?


@LudwigVan, I want your opinion on this as well.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 15, 2021, 08:52:11 AM
I bet Tim's gonna love the dubstep bit in The Endless Knot :lol

I actually thought In Memoriam would do really well. Good thing I used that wild card thing then.

Falling Back to Earth is my favourite song from The Mountain, but I thought Tim would like Pareidolia more. We'll see!
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2021, 09:04:11 AM
Why are Haken so polarizing?

For me, I find absolutely nothing appealing in Ross' voice.  Their technical wankery to me is a hot mess more often than not, and I find no cohesion in the structure of their songs because of it.  It's like they're showing off their skills just because they can, not because it makes sense - which is also much of the reason i've got little interest in AVFTTOTW.
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Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 09:09:23 AM
Thanks Chad.
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Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 09:10:24 AM

Falling Back to Earth is my favourite song from The Mountain, but I thought Tim would like Pareidolia more. We'll see!

 :corn
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2021, 09:13:50 AM
Thanks Chad.

It's been a long time since I spun them, but it wasn't for lack of trying.  I gave them many, many chances... they just never clicked.  I'm sure if I revisited them again, I'd find a few more things to specify why they don't 'click', but from memory, those were the big things.  I also don't remember any memorable riffs or hooks - like their technical mastery buried any interesting melodies.
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Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 09:18:17 AM
That’s fair.
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 15, 2021, 09:20:16 AM
I will say that while I am a fan I think they are overrated on this forum; Affinity is my favorite album of theirs and even that's only like a 7/10 for me. Especially The Mountain; I do not get the extreme praise for that album at all. It's got some decent songs, but if I were say, ranking it amongst the Dream Theater discography it wouldn't even crack the top half.
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Post by: HOF on November 15, 2021, 09:24:07 AM
Why are Haken so polarizing?

For me, I find absolutely nothing appealing in Ross' voice.  Their technical wankery to me is a hot mess more often than not, and I find no cohesion in the structure of their songs because of it.  It's like they're showing off their skills just because they can, not because it makes sense - which is also much of the reason i've got little interest in AVFTTOTW.

FWIW, with Affinity I remember thinking, “this is the kind of stuff DT should be writing.” There’s minimal wankery on it, though I also agree Ross’ voice is about as bland as it gets.
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Post by: Stadler on November 15, 2021, 09:28:05 AM
Why are Haken so polarizing?

For me, I find absolutely nothing appealing in Ross' voice.  Their technical wankery to me is a hot mess more often than not, and I find no cohesion in the structure of their songs because of it.  It's like they're showing off their skills just because they can, not because it makes sense - which is also much of the reason i've got little interest in AVFTTOTW.

See, that's me.  It just seems so mechanical. I'm sure that's not the way the hard core fans feel, but for me, it's just very cold.  I've listened a fair amount and nothing puts the hairs up on the back of my arm.
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 15, 2021, 09:33:11 AM
Ross's voice has grown on me over time. On the first three albums he definitely sounds a bit strained and kinda nasally on the high notes, but from Affinity onwards it feels like he has a better control over his voice and he's gotten better at being more expressive, too. I can definitely see why people wouldn't like him but I wouldn't call him "plain" either, his voice definitely has a unique quality to it.

His soft voice on songs like As Death Embraces is also incredibly beautiful; shame he doesn't get to use it too often.
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Post by: 425 on November 15, 2021, 09:57:56 AM
See, that's me.  It just seems so mechanical. I'm sure that's not the way the hard core fans feel, but for me, it's just very cold.  I've listened a fair amount and nothing puts the hairs up on the back of my arm.

I feel a little bit this way about the last two albums, but definitely not the first three.
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Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2021, 10:16:56 AM
Not sure if we can be friends anymore Tim.

We’re still good. I’ll just have to leave you home for the Haken concert.  ;D

I'll have dinner ready for when you get home.

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2021, 10:19:19 AM
Why are Haken so polarizing?

For me, I find absolutely nothing appealing in Ross' voice.  Their technical wankery to me is a hot mess more often than not, and I find no cohesion in the structure of their songs because of it.  It's like they're showing off their skills just because they can, not because it makes sense - which is also much of the reason i've got little interest in AVFTTOTW.

See, that's me.  It just seems so mechanical. I'm sure that's not the way the hard core fans feel, but for me, it's just very cold.  I've listened a fair amount and nothing puts the hairs up on the back of my arm.

I'm on board with all of this too.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 10:30:45 AM
Not sure if we can be friends anymore Tim.

We’re still good. I’ll just have to leave you home for the Haken concert.  ;D

I'll have dinner ready for when you get home.


Nice!!!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 15, 2021, 10:40:22 AM
Why are Haken so polarizing?

For me, I find absolutely nothing appealing in Ross' voice.  Their technical wankery to me is a hot mess more often than not, and I find no cohesion in the structure of their songs because of it.  It's like they're showing off their skills just because they can, not because it makes sense - which is also much of the reason i've got little interest in AVFTTOTW.

See, that's me.  It just seems so mechanical. I'm sure that's not the way the hard core fans feel, but for me, it's just very cold.  I've listened a fair amount and nothing puts the hairs up on the back of my arm.

I'm on board with all of this too.

Whatever...I will continue to baselessly judge all of you as lesser people for not wholeheartedly loving what I love.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 15, 2021, 10:41:50 AM
Right RJ!!  Our cup of tea taste better. :lol
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Post by: ariich on November 15, 2021, 10:42:52 AM
Why are Haken so polarizing?
I don't think they're unique in this regard, it's just the usual thing really - once a band or album is popular within a music community (in this case prog metal), you get a sort of backlash from some of the people who don't like it.
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Post by: lonestar on November 15, 2021, 10:44:34 AM
Right RJ!!  Our cup of tea taste better. :lol

Seriously man...where the fuck is my pitchfork?
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Post by: ariich on November 15, 2021, 10:45:33 AM
Whatever...I will continue to baselessly judge all of you as lesser people for not wholeheartedly loving what I love.
I can pretty much understand/relate to that - wanting others to like or appreciate what you yourself love (personally I'm not too bothered, but I do like it when it's the other way round as it's a good way to connect with people musically).

The thing I don't think I'll ever understand is when people get frustrated or annoyed at other people for liking something. I don't think it happens much on DTF thankfully, but I don't get it at all.
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Post by: lonestar on November 15, 2021, 10:50:57 AM
Whatever...I will continue to baselessly judge all of you as lesser people for not wholeheartedly loving what I love.
I can pretty much understand/relate to that - wanting others to like or appreciate what you yourself love (personally I'm not too bothered, but I do like it when it's the other way round as it's a good way to connect with people musically).

The thing I don't think I'll ever understand is when people get frustrated or annoyed at other people for liking something. I don't think it happens much on DTF thankfully, but I don't get it at all.

I could honestly give two shits if someone likes what I do, otherwise I'd never been able to dig as deeply as I have into Japanese metal lol. Music, for me and I think others, is almost more personal than religion. While we do enjoy the company of having others like what we do, what we do like is such an intimate connection.

And it does happen somewhat on DTF, but not as bad as some of the DT facebook groups though, those places are shockingly toxic. Wanna get dragged? Just go and criticize the new album there...



(unless it's Chad or Joe...as my close friends, I consider it my sacred duty to drag them whenever possible)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2021, 11:13:34 AM
Why are Haken so polarizing?

For me, I find absolutely nothing appealing in Ross' voice.  Their technical wankery to me is a hot mess more often than not, and I find no cohesion in the structure of their songs because of it.  It's like they're showing off their skills just because they can, not because it makes sense - which is also much of the reason i've got little interest in AVFTTOTW.

See, that's me.  It just seems so mechanical. I'm sure that's not the way the hard core fans feel, but for me, it's just very cold.  I've listened a fair amount and nothing puts the hairs up on the back of my arm.

I'm on board with all of this too.

Whatever...I will continue to baselessly judge all of you as lesser people for not wholeheartedly loving what I love.

This motherfucker.......
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2021, 11:18:05 AM
Why are Haken so polarizing?

For me, I find absolutely nothing appealing in Ross' voice.  Their technical wankery to me is a hot mess more often than not, and I find no cohesion in the structure of their songs because of it.  It's like they're showing off their skills just because they can, not because it makes sense - which is also much of the reason i've got little interest in AVFTTOTW.

See, that's me.  It just seems so mechanical. I'm sure that's not the way the hard core fans feel, but for me, it's just very cold.  I've listened a fair amount and nothing puts the hairs up on the back of my arm.

I'm on board with all of this too.

Whatever...I will continue to baselessly judge all of you as lesser people for not wholeheartedly loving what I love.

IQ is middle of the road prog.

:ontome:

 :lol :-*
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 15, 2021, 11:18:24 AM
 :lol :-* :heart
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 15, 2021, 11:21:52 AM
I think I just saw a virtual wedgie.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 15, 2021, 11:27:43 AM

Falling Back to Earth is my favourite song from The Mountain, but I thought Tim would like Pareidolia more. We'll see!

 :corn
I am personally hoping you enjoy both, for reasons :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 15, 2021, 12:03:55 PM

The thing I don't think I'll ever understand is when people get frustrated or annoyed at other people for liking something. I don't think it happens much on DTF

You forget TAC and Winger.

(although, I am on TAC's side on this)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 15, 2021, 12:07:23 PM
Tim should link his Winger round from his past roulette.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 12:41:47 PM
Tim should link his Winger round from his past roulette.

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43645.490

Bosk changed everyone's avatar for me. Wolfking never changed his back.

Also, the legendary Kip Winger tattoo.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Stadler on November 15, 2021, 12:55:05 PM
Whatever...I will continue to baselessly judge all of you as lesser people for not wholeheartedly loving what I love.
I can pretty much understand/relate to that - wanting others to like or appreciate what you yourself love (personally I'm not too bothered, but I do like it when it's the other way round as it's a good way to connect with people musically).

The thing I don't think I'll ever understand is when people get frustrated or annoyed at other people for liking something. I don't think it happens much on DTF thankfully, but I don't get it at all.

I could honestly give two shits if someone likes what I do, otherwise I'd never been able to dig as deeply as I have into Japanese metal lol. Music, for me and I think others, is almost more personal than religion. While we do enjoy the company of having others like what we do, what we do like is such an intimate connection.

And it does happen somewhat on DTF, but not as bad as some of the DT facebook groups though, those places are shockingly toxic. Wanna get dragged? Just go and criticize the new album there...



(unless it's Chad or Joe...as my close friends, I consider it my sacred duty to drag them whenever possible)

I like that analogy; certainly it's no one's business why or how much I like Kiss.  ;) :) :)


Although you keep mentioning that Japanese metal; I feel like that should be a round in this roulette.  :) :)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 12:57:00 PM
First Impressions!



1985
Lapse
In Memoriam
Carousel
Drowning In The Flood
The Endless Knot
Nocturnal Conspiracy
Pareidolia
Shapeshifter
Darkest Light
Atlas Stone
Falling Back To Earth
Veil




This song rocks. Pretty simple and straightforward.[Prosthetic]

Pretty incredible song right here.

This is a good song, but there’s no way I can dissect it in one listen.

One of the mellower songs, but has a nice steady pace and build. [Deathless]

This song feels a lot longer than it is. Not necessarily a complaint, but more of an observation.

Wow, this song was wonderful.

This song needs more listens, has a lot of potential.

Lots going on in this relatively shorter song.

The last two minutes of this was fantastic.

Not quite as immediate as some of the other longer songs.

Wow! Holy shit!

Strong Structural Disorder vibe on this one.

I hope this song grows. It was a bit underwhelming at first.

Even the electronic section in the middle couldn’t ruin this. [Puzzle Box]

On the short side for this round, but I thought it was excellent.[The Strain]

This song starts a bit iffy, but builds nicely.

This song crams a lot into it’s relatively short length. This will require more listens to break it down.

Starting with a nice guitar solo, the second half of this song crushes.







Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2021, 01:00:26 PM
Tim should link his Winger round from his past roulette.

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43645.490

Bosk changed everyone's avatar for me. Wolfking never changed his back.

Also, the legendary Kip Winger tattoo.

Ahhh... good times.  Too bad not all of the linked images survived.  6 years Kade's had that avatar, eh?  Jon too (I messaged him a while back to see what he's been up to, but no response  :-\)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Stadler on November 15, 2021, 01:00:35 PM
Carousel:  Even the electronic section in the middle couldn’t ruin this.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 01:03:19 PM
Tim should link his Winger round from his past roulette.

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43645.490

Bosk changed everyone's avatar for me. Wolfking never changed his back.

Also, the legendary Kip Winger tattoo.

Ahhh... good times.  Too bad not all of the linked images survived.  6 years Kade's had that avatar, eh?  Jon too (I messaged him a while back to see what he's been up to, but no response  :-\)

Yeah, I was thinking about him. I thought he had signed on a couple of weeks ago...EDIT: Last active was 11/7, but last post was in July.




Stadler...no. :)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 15, 2021, 01:17:55 PM
"One of the mellower songs, but has a nice steady pace and build."

Deathless, probably?

"Even the electronic section in the middle couldn’t ruin this."

The Endless Knot lol

the rest are honestly too vague idk
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 15, 2021, 01:19:47 PM
The electronic section will be probably be Puzzle Box, but could be The Endless Knot or, at a push, The Strain.

EDIT: Oh and I have to say, I don't care too much how I do this round, I'm just delighted that Tim is digging most of these songs! :D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 01:20:08 PM
Puzzle Box it is.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 15, 2021, 01:21:20 PM
Puzzle Box it is.
Yay, my brother didn't ruin the song! :D

(to explain, his solo stuff is all electronic and he provided the electronic percussion for Puzzle Box and The Strain :lol )
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 15, 2021, 01:22:04 PM
EDIT: Oh and I have to say, I don't care too much how I do this round, I'm just delighted that Tim is digging most of these songs! :D

With how much shit-talking that's been going on, I wonder if it's partially out of spite. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 01:22:40 PM
Puzzle Box it is.
Yay, my brother didn't ruin the song! :D

(to explain, his solo stuff is all electronic and he provided the electronic percussion for Puzzle Box and The Strain :lol )

Wait, wut?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 15, 2021, 01:25:21 PM
today TAC learns that ariich's brother used to be in Haken and still shows up on their stuff occasionally

it's a fun fact!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 01:27:48 PM
today TAC learns that ariich's brother used to be in Haken and still shows up on their stuff occasionally

it's a fun fact!

Oh is that right? What did he play?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 15, 2021, 01:30:37 PM
today TAC learns that ariich's brother used to be in Haken and still shows up on their stuff occasionally

it's a fun fact!

Oh is that right? What did he play?
He was the original keyboardist on their demo (which you didn't get any songs from - it was solid and had promise but was self-produced and rough around the edges). He's still good friends with the band though and has provided electronic percussion and a couple of other synthy bits on their latest two albums.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 15, 2021, 01:32:00 PM
i'm gonna be honest part of my inability to guess at these is because i legitimately don't remember what any of the vector or virus songs sound like lol

"On the short side for this round, but I thought it was excellent."
This song rocks. Pretty simple and straightforward.

prosthetic? the strain? probably both of these? idk

"Not quite as immediate as some of the other longer songs."

veil?

"The last two minutes of this was fantastic."

drowning in the flood?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 01:32:26 PM
Were they guys he knew growing up? How did he join/leave the band?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 01:33:32 PM


"On the short side for this round, but I thought it was excellent."
This song rocks. Pretty simple and straightforward.

prosthetic? the strain? probably both of these? idk

Yes.

The others were wrong..
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 15, 2021, 01:36:40 PM
Were they guys he knew growing up? How did he join/leave the band?
Three of the original members had grown up and played music together, but Pete met them on an online forum (I think the JP forum actually). Their drummer at the time was... let's say not quite up to scratch, so he then got his school friend Ray (our families are good friends) to join and he's still there now on drums.

EDIT: Oh and you asked about leaving, sorry. Once they got a record deal, he was just coming to the end of high school and wanting to go to university, and at the time thought a professional band with touring etc. might limit what he was able to do in terms of his studies. One of the guitarists left at the same time, for similar career reasons.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 01:37:49 PM
Were they guys he knew growing up? How did he join/leave the band?
Three of the original members had grown up and played music together, but Pete met them on an online forum (I think the JP forum actually). Their drummer at the time was... let's say not quite up to scratch, so he then got his school friend Ray (our families are good friends) to join and he's still there now on drums.

Oh wow! So you must get hooked up when Haken comes around.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 01:39:09 PM
Anyone else have any famous relatives in the thread?  ;D

My cousin used to appear on Fox News.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 15, 2021, 01:39:48 PM
Were they guys he knew growing up? How did he join/leave the band?
Three of the original members had grown up and played music together, but Pete met them on an online forum (I think the JP forum actually). Their drummer at the time was... let's say not quite up to scratch, so he then got his school friend Ray (our families are good friends) to join and he's still there now on drums.

Oh wow! So you must get hooked up when Haken comes around.
Oh yeah totally, I went to see Novena live a few weeks ago (the other band with Haken's singer Ross), and I had a drink with Ross and Ray beforehand. (EDIT: That said, I still pretty much always buy my own ticket to support them).

Also in case you didn't see it, I updated my previous post with the leaving info as you asked about that too!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 15, 2021, 01:43:08 PM
Lots going on in this relatively shorter song.

This song crams a lot into it’s relatively short length. This will require more listens to break it down.

In Memoriam is probably one of these "short but a lot going on" ones?

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 01:43:54 PM
Gotcha Rich! That's awesome!




Lots going on in this relatively shorter song.

This song crams a lot into it’s relatively short length. This will require more listens to break it down.

In Memoriam is probably one of these "short but a lot going on" ones?



Probably not. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 15, 2021, 01:44:02 PM
"Not quite as immediate as some of the other longer songs."

Nocturnal Conspiracy?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 15, 2021, 01:44:42 PM
Wow Holy shit!

Pareidolia for sure.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 01:45:37 PM
"Not quite as immediate as some of the other longer songs."

Nocturnal Conspiracy?

No, but since you sent the song in question, I'll give it up. ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 15, 2021, 01:47:02 PM
Lots going on in this relatively shorter song.

This song crams a lot into it’s relatively short length. This will require more listens to break it down.

In Memoriam is probably one of these "short but a lot going on" ones?



Probably not. :lol

But surely one of them is Endless Knot?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 01:47:11 PM
First Impressions!

Carousel
Nocturnal Conspiracy
Pareidolia
Shapeshifter
Atlas Stone


This song rocks. Pretty simple and straightforward.[Prosthetic]

Pretty incredible song right here.[Veil]

This is a good song, but there’s no way I can dissect it in one listen.

One of the mellower songs, but has a nice steady pace and build. [Deathless]

This song feels a lot longer than it is. Not necessarily a complaint, but more of an observation.[Darkest Light]

Wow, this song was wonderful.[Falling Back To Earth]

This song needs more listens, has a lot of potential.

Lots going on in this relatively shorter song.[The Endless Knot]

The last two minutes of this was fantastic.

Not quite as immediate as some of the other longer songs.[1985]

Wow! Holy shit!

Strong Structural Disorder vibe on this one.[Drowning In The Flood]

I hope this song grows. It was a bit underwhelming at first.[In Memoriam]

Even the electronic section in the middle couldn’t ruin this. [Puzzle Box]

On the short side for this round, but I thought it was excellent.[The Strain]

This song starts a bit iffy, but builds nicely.[Lapse]

This song crams a lot into it’s relatively short length. This will require more listens to break it down.

Starting with a nice guitar solo, the second half of this song crushes.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 01:48:35 PM
@425...yes.
@Lonestar..no
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 15, 2021, 01:49:17 PM
Guessing this might be Lapse:
This song starts a bit iffy, but builds nicely.


Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 01:51:30 PM
Guessing this might be Lapse:
This song starts a bit iffy, but builds nicely.

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AbsoluteLeftFirecrest-size_restricted.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 15, 2021, 01:53:58 PM
Pretty incredible song right here.

Wow, this song was wonderful.

Pareidolia and Falling Back to Earth :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 01:55:18 PM
1/2 right.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 15, 2021, 01:56:58 PM
Pareidolia could be the strong Structural Disorder vibes? idk  :lol
"Structural Disorder vibes" describes pretty much all of early Haken as far as I'm concerned lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 15, 2021, 01:58:32 PM
Pareidolia could be the strong Structural Disorder vibes? idk  :lol
"Structural Disorder vibes" describes pretty much all of early Haken as far as I'm concerned lol
Yeah I'd say something from the first two albums. Maybe Nocturnal Conspiracy? Or possibly Shapeshifter.

Fantastic last two minutes could be Drowning in the Flood.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 15, 2021, 01:59:48 PM
Fantastic last two minutes could be Drowning in the Flood.
i think i already guessed this one  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 15, 2021, 02:00:19 PM
This song feels a lot longer than it is. Not necessarily a complaint, but more of an observation. - Darkest Light?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 15, 2021, 02:05:11 PM
Guessing this might be Lapse:
This song starts a bit iffy, but builds nicely.

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AbsoluteLeftFirecrest-size_restricted.gif)

Probably because I like the way it starts. :-)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 02:08:22 PM
Guessing this might be Lapse:
This song starts a bit iffy, but builds nicely.

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AbsoluteLeftFirecrest-size_restricted.gif)

Probably because I like the way it starts. :-)

 :lol

Naturally! :lol




This song feels a lot longer than it is. Not necessarily a complaint, but more of an observation. - Darkest Light?

Yes.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 02:11:47 PM
Pareidolia could be the strong Structural Disorder vibes? idk  :lol
"Structural Disorder vibes" describes pretty much all of early Haken as far as I'm concerned lol
Yeah I'd say something from the first two albums. Maybe Nocturnal Conspiracy? Or possibly Shapeshifter.

Fantastic last two minutes could be Drowning in the Flood.

I've updated the Structural Disorder one.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2021, 02:16:09 PM
Tim should link his Winger round from his past roulette.

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43645.490

Bosk changed everyone's avatar for me. Wolfking never changed his back.

Also, the legendary Kip Winger tattoo.

Ahhh... good times.  Too bad not all of the linked images survived.  6 years Kade's had that avatar, eh?  Jon too (I messaged him a while back to see what he's been up to, but no response  :-\)

I've stuck solid with that avatar.  Never really given any thought of changing it.  Just wouldn't feel right.

I was wondering about Jon....
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2021, 02:16:49 PM
So you liked Puzzle Box?  Good lord!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 15, 2021, 02:21:13 PM
Based on first impressions, it's a good guess Joe is going to have company the next time Haken plays Beantown.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 15, 2021, 02:23:38 PM
Based on first impressions, it's a good guess Joe is going to have company the next time Haken plays Beantown.

I've already sent out the invitation. 
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 15, 2021, 02:25:36 PM
I think I speak for all the pro Haken members here that we do need at least a first impression of Cockroach King.


Preferably from the Muppet/Bohemian Rasphody crossover music video.

(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/246876956_443306187151643_7934735331650989208_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=IVfXIty4t8cAX9EBVcR&tn=AuuR0eREckWj30iN&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=92be57cb8d065db0fbecde41a9d06337&oe=61B676FB)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 15, 2021, 02:33:47 PM
We absolutely need a Cockroach King impression.

Since I'm running out of descriptive ones that could match it, and I know that it already lost out to two songs in terms of first impression, I'm going to guess that In Memoriam has potential, but needs more listens. If you say no, I'm going to get more pessimistic and guess that it's underwhelming.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 02:35:42 PM
Based on first impressions, it's a good guess Joe is going to have company the next time Haken plays Beantown.

And Rich is gonna get us hooked up!




Since I'm running out of descriptive ones that could match it, and I know that it already lost out to two songs in terms of first impression, I'm going to guess that In Memoriam has potential, but needs more listens. If you say no, I'm going to get more pessimistic and guess that it's underwhelming.

Yes!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 15, 2021, 02:37:05 PM
This song feels a lot longer than it is. Not necessarily a complaint, but more of an observation. - Darkest Light?

Yes.

I hesitated before sending that song for that same reason but sent it anyways :mehlin glad other songs are getting a positive reaction though  :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 15, 2021, 02:37:31 PM
Yay! I have good impressions :)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 15, 2021, 02:38:24 PM

Since I'm running out of descriptive ones that could match it, and I know that it already lost out to two songs in terms of first impression, I'm going to guess that In Memoriam has potential, but needs more listens. If you say no, I'm going to get more pessimistic and guess that it's underwhelming.

Yes!

Yay! I'm underwhelming!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 02:40:24 PM

Yay! I'm underwhelming!

 :natalieportman:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 15, 2021, 02:41:11 PM
Quote from Not Quite 426

 :rollin
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 15, 2021, 02:42:25 PM
Nick would hook us up too if he travels with them like he does.

Swinging for the fence for mine.

Pretty incredible song right here.

Wow! Holy shit!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 15, 2021, 02:43:04 PM
Swinging for the fence for mine.

Pretty incredible song right here.

Wow! Holy shit!

No whammies!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 02:44:51 PM

Swinging for the fence for mine.

Pretty incredible song right here.


(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/37/87/e3/3787e36910f67d168043a65985a13ad5.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 15, 2021, 02:51:12 PM
Atlas Stone for "crams a lot into its length"
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 15, 2021, 02:58:41 PM
Troy Brown is the cheery on top!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 03:02:53 PM
Troy Brown is the cheery on top!

(https://c.tenor.com/8WXfkoU6E7gAAAAC/umm.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 15, 2021, 03:03:30 PM
Fuck yeah. Take that, Veil naysayers!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 15, 2021, 03:08:21 PM
what does veil even sound like
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 15, 2021, 03:09:38 PM
Fuck yeah. Take that, Veil naysayers!

Word.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 15, 2021, 03:16:29 PM
what does veil even sound like

You tell me, you're the one who put that album on your honorable mentions for that year. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 03:18:13 PM
First Impressions!


Pareidolia
Shapeshifter


Starting with a nice guitar solo, the second half of this song crushes.

This song needs more listens, has a lot of potential.


Wow! Holy shit![Nocturnal Conspiracy]


This is a good song, but there’s no way I can dissect it in one listen.[Carousel]

This song rocks. Pretty simple and straightforward.[Prosthetic]

Pretty incredible song right here.[Veil]

One of the mellower songs, but has a nice steady pace and build. [Deathless]

This song feels a lot longer than it is. Not necessarily a complaint, but more of an observation.[Darkest Light]

Wow, this song was wonderful.[Falling Back To Earth]

Lots going on in this relatively shorter song.[The Endless Knot]

The last two minutes of this was fantastic.[Atlas Stone]

Not quite as immediate as some of the other longer songs.[1985]

Strong Structural Disorder vibe on this one.[Drowning In The Flood]

I hope this song grows. It was a bit underwhelming at first.[In Memoriam]

Even the electronic section in the middle couldn’t ruin this. [Puzzle Box]

On the short side for this round, but I thought it was excellent.[The Strain]

This song starts a bit iffy, but builds nicely.[Lapse]


Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 15, 2021, 03:23:56 PM
what does veil even sound like

You tell me, you're the one who put that album on your honorable mentions for that year. :lol

veil was not one of my favorite songs on the album to begin with but also it's been three years and i haven't listened to the album a single time since that video  :rollin
i kinda remember what the songs i actually liked from vector sound like at least, or parts of them
there was a reason it wasn't on my list proper tho  :P
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 15, 2021, 03:25:20 PM
what does veil even sound like

You tell me, you're the one who put that album on your honorable mentions for that year. :lol

veil was not one of my favorite songs on the album to begin with but also it's been three years and i haven't listened to the album a single time since that video  :rollin

Hah, we might like the album about equally then. :lol Puzzle Box and Veil are the only reason I bought it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 15, 2021, 03:30:11 PM
i wouldn't be able to tell you why i bought virus either

i didn't even finish my usual 3-4 week cycle with it like two weeks of trying to get /something/ from it and i just quite out of disappointment. such a mediocre, boring album
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 15, 2021, 03:37:23 PM
This Atlas Stone?

The last two minutes of this was fantastic
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 15, 2021, 03:38:12 PM
Yeah I didn't get Virus either. Prosthetic is the only song that made me kinda want to but I never feel the desire to listen to anything else from it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 03:40:02 PM
This Atlas Stone?

The last two minutes of this was fantastic

Yes!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 15, 2021, 03:44:53 PM
Okay, seeing as it's the only sub-10 minute one left, Shapeshifter has gotta be "crams a lot into its relatively short length," right?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 03:46:50 PM
Okay, seeing as it's the only sub-10 minute one left, Shapeshifter has gotta be "crams a lot into its relatively short length," right?

Forget you ever saw that impression. I had two impressions down for one song.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 15, 2021, 03:53:22 PM
Carousel?

This song needs more listens, has a lot of potential.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 03:54:09 PM
Carousel?

This song needs more listens, has a lot of potential.

Close enough!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 15, 2021, 03:56:40 PM
I think Pareidolia was already confirmed not "Wow! Holy shit!" so considering the other two, I'll guess Nocturnal Conspiracy for that.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 03:58:14 PM
I think Pareidolia was already confirmed not "Wow! Holy shit!" so considering the other two, I'll guess Nocturnal Conspiracy for that.
Yes!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 15, 2021, 04:01:31 PM
I feel like that's a song that gets forgotten about a lot with all the long tracks they've released in the years since and on the same album, but it is really, really good.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 15, 2021, 04:01:51 PM
i don't think either of the songs left starts with a guitar solo so i have no real clue which is which  :rollin
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 15, 2021, 04:04:25 PM
I think it means the second half begins with a guitar solo, but I don't remember how those songs go well enough to name which one it fits.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 04:06:56 PM
i don't think either of the songs left starts with a guitar solo so i have no real clue which is which  :rollin





Starting with a nice guitar solo, the second half of this song crushes.


the second half starts with a guitar solo.  ;D  :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 15, 2021, 04:09:49 PM
I would never have parsed it that way  :lol
50/50 so I'm just gonna guess that one is pareidolia anyways
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 04:11:39 PM
First Impressions!

Starting with a nice guitar solo, the second half of this song crushes.[Shapeshifter]

This song needs more listens, has a lot of potential.[Pareidolia]

Wow! Holy shit![Nocturnal Conspiracy]


This is a good song, but there’s no way I can dissect it in one listen.[Carousel]

This song rocks. Pretty simple and straightforward.[Prosthetic]

Pretty incredible song right here.[Veil]

One of the mellower songs, but has a nice steady pace and build. [Deathless]

This song feels a lot longer than it is. Not necessarily a complaint, but more of an observation.[Darkest Light]

Wow, this song was wonderful.[Falling Back To Earth]

Lots going on in this relatively shorter song.[The Endless Knot]

The last two minutes of this was fantastic.[Atlas Stone]

Not quite as immediate as some of the other longer songs.[1985]

Strong Structural Disorder vibe on this one.[Drowning In The Flood]

I hope this song grows. It was a bit underwhelming at first.[In Memoriam]

Even the electronic section in the middle couldn’t ruin this. [Puzzle Box]

On the short side for this round, but I thought it was excellent.[The Strain]

This song starts a bit iffy, but builds nicely.[Lapse]
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 15, 2021, 04:16:06 PM
alright, and how many of them are better than peruvian skies? :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 15, 2021, 04:18:26 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 04:29:55 PM
alright, and how many of them are better than peruvian skies? :neverusethis:

I don't think any, actually.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 15, 2021, 04:31:30 PM
alright, and how many of them are better than peruvian skies? :neverusethis:

Two (the ones I sent) :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 15, 2021, 04:53:06 PM
alright, and how many of them are better than peruvian skies? :neverusethis:

I don't think any, actually.
:metardica:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 15, 2021, 05:56:31 PM
First Impressions!

Starting with a nice guitar solo, the second half of this song crushes.[Shapeshifter]


I thought it risky to send what is essentially the last part of a 3 track suite, but this pleases me. Now throw The Mind's Eye and Portals in front of it and see what you think.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 08:05:36 PM
Even though I just posted First Impressions today, I am now basically 4 plays through the songs.

I thought I'd share where I am with this.

I really enjoyed my first couple of listens. The music is really good, the hate on the vocals was overrated, and the songs were pretty strong.


I am noticing some warts though.

There's a reason Dream Theater are the standard bearers of this genre. Mostly, it's Dream Theater's musicality. They are melodically superior while still displaying virtuosic chops. And for me, they have a vocalist that pulls emotion out of me.


1. Seems like Ross is a lightning rod around here.  The positive.. I think he sounds fine. He's an excellent vocalist with range and variation. I don't have an issue with his voice.

BUT... I'm not saying he doesn't sing with passion, because I think he does, but for the most part, it's not really drawing it out of me. There's a handful of melodic choruses that are really effective though, but not every song is blessed with one.


2. The keyboards... Again, my point of reference is again, Dream Theater. No one is more wanky than Jordan, but 95% of the time, he's doing what is right for the song. I think of the brilliant piano outro to Transcending Time. There's nothing even remotely as moving in these songs. As much as Jordan stands out, his accompaniment is amazing. With Haken, I feel like this guy has no idea how to...blend. I don't mind keyboards in my music, but there's a tastefulness that is lacking generally. There ARE exceptions to this though. But generally..
And I am frankly not a fan of electronic elements in my music. 7:15 of ITNOG is as much electronica as I want in my music.

3. I'm hearing low tuned guitars. That is grating.

4. The drumming is fantastic, as is the bassist.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: LudwigVan on November 15, 2021, 08:16:15 PM
Why are Haken so polarizing?


@LudwigVan, I want your opinion on this as well.

When I first sampled Haken (courtesy of some posts way back when by Arich), I thought they sounded interesting enough that I went out and bought their first album, Aquarius, reckoning that they'd be right in my wheelhouse. Then I listened to the album. 

For me, the music seemed to meander pointlessly. To use a classic TAC phrase, "the music didn't really go anywhere". I didn't hear any songs, just arrangements (extremely well-played, I'll grant) that moved from section to section without any point of reference for me grasp. On top of that, I couldn't latch onto the vocals. It all left me feeling cold.

That said, I've come to dig many of the shorter songs that have been submitted in this roulette, especially the ones that have some heavy riffage. I guess I'm a metalhead at heart.

When I listen to Haken, it makes me appreciate Dream Theater that much more, i.e. ... why am I listening to this when I could be listening to DT?


Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 08:18:54 PM
Thanks Gord! I appreciate it.

I listened to their first album once...once.

I guess you more or less said some of the things that I said in the previous post.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 15, 2021, 08:23:41 PM
Even though I just posted First Impressions today, I am now basically 4 plays through the songs.

I thought I'd share where I am with this.

I really enjoyed my first couple of listens. The music is really good, the hate on the vocals was overrated, and the songs were pretty strong.


I am noticing some warts though.

There's a reason Dream Theater are the standard bearers of this genre. Mostly, it's Dream Theater's musicality. They are melodically superior while still displaying virtuosic chops. And for me, they have a vocalist that pulls emotion out of me.


1. Seems like Ross is a lightning rod around here.  The positive.. I think he sounds fine. He's an excellent vocalist with range and variation. I don't have an issue with his voice.

BUT... I'm not saying he doesn't sing with passion, because I think he does, but for the most part, it's not really drawing it out of me. There's a handful of melodic choruses that are really effective though, but not every song is blessed with one.


So I made a joke a few pages back that Haken are better without the vocals. It wasn’t even really a joke. It’s not on Spotify, but the CD for Affinity included a second disc of all instrumental versions of the songs. Aside from my feelings about Ross’s voice, it’s amazing how much the vocal melodies detract from the underlying arrangements, which are fantastic on their own. Lapse is a really good example of that. There is a lot of cool stuff going on underneath that kind of gets lost under the vocal melody. I made my own playlist of the album that replaced some of the tracks with the all instrumental versions, and that’s mostly what I’ve listened to.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 08:27:20 PM
HOF, the instrumental version of Affinity IS on Spotify.


I can hear the subtleties in Lapse. Especially early in the song. But I generally don't listen to instrumental music. If a band includes one on an album, fine.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 15, 2021, 08:39:04 PM
HOF, the instrumental version of Affinity IS on Spotify.


I can hear the subtleties in Lapse. Especially early in the song. But I generally don't listen to instrumental music. If a band includes one on an album, fine.

I thought I checked Spotify, but maybe after you nixed instrumentals I never did.

I like a lot of instrumental music, so maybe I’m just weird. But most of my issues with prog metal (and to a lesser extent other forms of prog and metal) are with the vocals. Some of it is subject matter, but a lot of it is just shoehorning a vocal melody over the underlying instrumental craziness. For instance, I think LTE is great, the new album included. But since JR joined DT, I’ve never really thought JLB fit anymore. I think I’d be more likely to listen to an all instrumental version of Train of Thought for instance (and Stream of Consciousness is easily my favorite track on that album).
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: v_clortho on November 15, 2021, 08:46:49 PM
So funny thing for me with Haken. I really used to be bothered by Ross's voice. I had the cd of Affinity and listened to the instrumental version. For some reason after that I found that the vocals didn't bother me anymore. That makes zero sense, since I enjoyed the instrumental version.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Zoom E on November 15, 2021, 11:28:10 PM
HOF, the instrumental version of Affinity IS on Spotify.


I can hear the subtleties in Lapse. Especially early in the song. But I generally don't listen to instrumental music. If a band includes one on an album, fine.

I never listened to the instrumental version of Affinity until one day I accidentally popped it into my car CD player, thinking it was the regular version. Turned out I really enjoyed the instrumental version as the riffs seemed heavier and crunchy. That said, I have never gone back and relistened to it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 16, 2021, 12:16:22 AM
Wow! Holy shit![Nocturnal Conspiracy]

One of the mellower songs, but has a nice steady pace and build. [Deathless]

Seems like I didn't send the wrong songs this time.  :metal :D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 03:58:40 AM
Unless I was thinking Wow holy shit this is awful.  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2021, 04:13:46 AM
Even though I just posted First Impressions today, I am now basically 4 plays through the songs.

I thought I'd share where I am with this.

I really enjoyed my first couple of listens. The music is really good, the hate on the vocals was overrated, and the songs were pretty strong.


I am noticing some warts though.

There's a reason Dream Theater are the standard bearers of this genre. Mostly, it's Dream Theater's musicality. They are melodically superior while still displaying virtuosic chops. And for me, they have a vocalist that pulls emotion out of me.


1. Seems like Ross is a lightning rod around here.  The positive.. I think he sounds fine. He's an excellent vocalist with range and variation. I don't have an issue with his voice.

BUT... I'm not saying he doesn't sing with passion, because I think he does, but for the most part, it's not really drawing it out of me. There's a handful of melodic choruses that are really effective though, but not every song is blessed with one.


2. The keyboards... Again, my point of reference is again, Dream Theater. No one is more wanky than Jordan, but 95% of the time, he's doing what is right for the song. I think of the brilliant piano outro to Transcending Time. There's nothing even remotely as moving in these songs. As much as Jordan stands out, his accompaniment is amazing. With Haken, I feel like this guy has no idea how to...blend. I don't mind keyboards in my music, but there's a tastefulness that is lacking generally. There ARE exceptions to this though. But generally..
And I am frankly not a fan of electronic elements in my music. 7:15 of ITNOG is as much electronica as I want in my music.

3. I'm hearing low tuned guitars. That is grating.

4. The drumming is fantastic, as is the bassist.

Okay, we are making progress.  Thought we totally lost you Tim.

DT are indeed the gold standard.  Nothing else really comes close.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 04:30:42 AM
Honestly I woke up this morning and  wanted to hear Anneke song some Devin tunes.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2021, 04:35:49 AM
Honestly I woke up this morning and  wanted to hear Anneke song some Devin tunes.

Exactly.  Haken may sound pretty and all but to me they have zero substance.  I can see right through them I tell ya.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 16, 2021, 04:52:49 AM
When I listen to Haken, it makes me appreciate Dream Theater that much more, i.e. ... why am I listening to this when I could be listening to DT?

This is how I feel about current-day DT!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Stadler on November 16, 2021, 08:09:59 AM
Honestly I woke up this morning and  wanted to hear Anneke song some Devin tunes.

I feel like my work here is complete.   :) :) :)

(Her latest solo album is a treasure as well.) 
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 16, 2021, 08:39:39 AM
Anneke is good and all but honestly Ché is where it's at. :)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 16, 2021, 08:52:12 AM
2. The keyboards... Again, my point of reference is again, Dream Theater. No one is more wanky than Jordan, but 95% of the time, he's doing what is right for the song. I think of the brilliant piano outro to Transcending Time. There's nothing even remotely as moving in these songs. As much as Jordan stands out, his accompaniment is amazing. With Haken, I feel like this guy has no idea how to...blend. I don't mind keyboards in my music, but there's a tastefulness that is lacking generally. There ARE exceptions to this though. But generally..
And I am frankly not a fan of electronic elements in my music. 7:15 of ITNOG is as much electronica as I want in my music.

Can we pretend the last minute of Drowning in the Flood doesn't exist?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 09:16:12 AM
2. The keyboards... Again, my point of reference is again, Dream Theater. No one is more wanky than Jordan, but 95% of the time, he's doing what is right for the song. I think of the brilliant piano outro to Transcending Time. There's nothing even remotely as moving in these songs. As much as Jordan stands out, his accompaniment is amazing. With Haken, I feel like this guy has no idea how to...blend. I don't mind keyboards in my music, but there's a tastefulness that is lacking generally. There ARE exceptions to this though. But generally..
And I am frankly not a fan of electronic elements in my music. 7:15 of ITNOG is as much electronica as I want in my music.

Can we pretend the last minute of Drowning in the Flood doesn't exist?

While we’re at it, let’s pretend the first six and half minutes don’t exist either.  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 16, 2021, 09:19:05 AM
Nope!

I can't wait until we get to the bands I don't know so I have no emotional investment in how well the songs will do. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 09:20:06 AM
This is not the roulette to have emotional investment.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 16, 2021, 11:01:35 AM
I will have no emotional investment in the next round, since I have literally never heard a single note of a Between the Buried and Me song.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 16, 2021, 11:10:21 AM
This is not the roulette to have emotional investment.  :lol

Never did.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 11:57:42 AM
This is not the roulette to have emotional investment.  :lol

Never did.  :biggrin:

In this thread we eat more than 4 chocolate covered almonds in a month. :P
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2021, 11:59:00 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 16, 2021, 12:25:24 PM
This is not the roulette to have emotional investment.  :lol

Never did.  :biggrin:

In this thread we eat more than 4 chocolate covered almonds in a month. :P

I already had 5 today!  :P

If you ain't exercising, stay out of our thread!!!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Stadler on November 16, 2021, 12:35:41 PM
Bye!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 16, 2021, 12:50:25 PM
Bye!

No no ... the Exercise thread!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 16, 2021, 12:55:50 PM
Speaking of nuts.......



I'll let myself out.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 01:09:32 PM
Speaking of nuts.......



I'll let myself out.

Zip that back up!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 02:09:14 PM
So my yesterday comments not withstanding...I'm listening to day after work, even scratching together some writeups.

In a way, I feel I've broken through. I've done 4 songs so far and I have really enjoyed them. They all have one large pimple on them. But they are at least making a lot more sense.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 16, 2021, 02:18:44 PM
Broken through, or broken down?

Or just plain broken?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: faizoff on November 16, 2021, 02:20:29 PM
Probably considered by most as Haken's wussy song but I absolutely love Earthrise. It's in my top 5 tracks by Haken.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 16, 2021, 02:21:27 PM
Honestly both Devin and Haken have a lot of overlap with bands TAC likes so I'm not surprised he's digging them. If he starts saying this stuff for Porcupine Tree / Steven Wilson then we'll know for sure it's stockholm syndrome.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 02:23:33 PM
Honestly both Devin and Haken have a lot of overlap with bands TAC likes so I'm not surprised he's digging them. If he starts saying this stuff for Porcupine Tree / Steven Wilson then we'll know for sure it's stockholm syndrome.

 :lol

Muse round!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 02:25:19 PM
Broken through, or broken down?

Or just plain broken?

Nah. There's a lot of good songs and some amazing passages.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 16, 2021, 02:27:41 PM
Honestly both Devin and Haken have a lot of overlap with bands TAC likes so I'm not surprised he's digging them. If he starts saying this stuff for Porcupine Tree / Steven Wilson then we'll know for sure it's stockholm syndrome.

I'm just going to send Wilson songs that I like (don't listen to him much anymore, but there are a few that I still hold in high regard) without even imagining for a minute that they'll cross the 4/10 threshold.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 16, 2021, 02:30:28 PM
As one of the biggest Haken fans here, and certainly the longest standing, there's a bunch of stuff I'd like to respond to while I can before we get to results and move onto the next band. :lol


I really enjoyed my first couple of listens. The music is really good, the hate on the vocals was overrated, and the songs were pretty strong.
As before, absolutely delighted with this.


Quote
There's a reason Dream Theater are the standard bearers of this genre. Mostly, it's Dream Theater's musicality. They are melodically superior while still displaying virtuosic chops.
Tastes is tastes, for sure. Personally, I find Haken's melodic approach more interesting (or perhaps better to say more consistently interesting) than DT's. DT's approach is somewhat rooted in classic rock (I don't mean that in a reductive way at all and obviously they bring in lots of other influences), whereas Haken's leans more into both melancholy and, for want of a better word, unusual territories. Some of their big, sad choruses are just so beautiful and get me more than any DT song. But some are less immediate and even as a huge fan I'm not normally sold straight away, but I basically always completely come around after listening enough.


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And for me, they have a vocalist that pulls emotion out of me.

1. Seems like Ross is a lightning rod around here.  The positive.. I think he sounds fine. He's an excellent vocalist with range and variation. I don't have an issue with his voice.

BUT... I'm not saying he doesn't sing with passion, because I think he does, but for the most part, it's not really drawing it out of me.
Again tastes is tastes, but it's worth noting that the submissions in this round have been very focused towards the heavier end of their music. You've got Deathless and Ross sounds good there but his voice wasn't as strong on those first two albums. But The Mountain and Affinity in particular have some gentler and more delicate moments and I think he delivers them with a ton of emotion.


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2. The keyboards... Again, my point of reference is again, Dream Theater. No one is more wanky than Jordan, but 95% of the time, he's doing what is right for the song. I think of the brilliant piano outro to Transcending Time. There's nothing even remotely as moving in these songs. As much as Jordan stands out, his accompaniment is amazing. With Haken, I feel like this guy has no idea how to...blend. I don't mind keyboards in my music, but there's a tastefulness that is lacking generally. There ARE exceptions to this though. But generally..
And I am frankly not a fan of electronic elements in my music. 7:15 of ITNOG is as much electronica as I want in my music.
I can understand this. I'm not a huge fan of Diego, but I do love his sound design work on Affinity. But if you're not into the electronics, I can see how even that might not appeal consistently.


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3. I'm hearing low tuned guitars. That is grating.
There's a mix but yeah they do often use 7- and 8-string guitars. Quite a modern style I guess. I have no problem with it.


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4. The drumming is fantastic, as is the bassist.
They've had two bassists, both awesome, and yeah Ray is a great drummer and has got better and better with each album.


When I first sampled Haken (courtesy of some posts way back when by Arich), I thought they sounded interesting enough that I went out and bought their first album, Aquarius, reckoning that they'd be right in my wheelhouse. Then I listened to the album. 

For me, the music seemed to meander pointlessly. To use a classic TAC phrase, "the music didn't really go anywhere". I didn't hear any songs, just arrangements (extremely well-played, I'll grant) that moved from section to section without any point of reference for me grasp.
That was definitely an issue with Aquarius, and it's the main reason it's easily my least favourite of theirs. The first three songs in particular just don't really have any structure and they just all run from one to the next. Their songwriting is much more structured and focused now, especially from The Mountain onwards (apart from the Messiah Complex suite but that was intentionally bonkers).

I have to say though that on this point, I don't really get the DT comparison. Taking in their whole catalogues, I think DT have done a lot more of that meandering in their songwriting. Perhaps rarely as much so as those three opening songs from Aquarius, but they do it more often IMO.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 16, 2021, 02:36:10 PM
When I first sampled Haken (courtesy of some posts way back when by Arich), I thought they sounded interesting enough that I went out and bought their first album, Aquarius, reckoning that they'd be right in my wheelhouse. Then I listened to the album. 

For me, the music seemed to meander pointlessly. To use a classic TAC phrase, "the music didn't really go anywhere". I didn't hear any songs, just arrangements (extremely well-played, I'll grant) that moved from section to section without any point of reference for me grasp.
That was definitely an issue with Aquarius, and it's the main reason it's easily my least favourite of theirs. The first three songs in particular just don't really have any structure and they just all run from one to the next. Their songwriting is much more structured and focused now, especially from The Mountain onwards (apart from the Messiah Complex suite but that was intentionally bonkers).

I have to say though that on this point, I don't really get the DT comparison. Taking in their whole catalogues, I think DT have done a lot more of that meandering in their songwriting. Perhaps rarely as much so as those three opening songs from Aquarius, but they do it more often IMO.

I fully get why someone would object to this about Aquarius, but I personally embrace the weirdness and the meandering. To me it's just a beautiful little oddball album that's totally unlike anything else (people say their first two albums are heavily DT-inspired... I see that for Visions, but not for Aquarius).
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 16, 2021, 02:43:58 PM
Probably considered by most as Haken's wussy song but I absolutely love Earthrise. It's in my top 5 tracks by Haken.

That’s the third song I considered sending. Didn’t think TAC would like it, but I think it’s pretty great.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 16, 2021, 02:46:34 PM
When I first sampled Haken (courtesy of some posts way back when by Arich), I thought they sounded interesting enough that I went out and bought their first album, Aquarius, reckoning that they'd be right in my wheelhouse. Then I listened to the album. 

For me, the music seemed to meander pointlessly. To use a classic TAC phrase, "the music didn't really go anywhere". I didn't hear any songs, just arrangements (extremely well-played, I'll grant) that moved from section to section without any point of reference for me grasp.
That was definitely an issue with Aquarius, and it's the main reason it's easily my least favourite of theirs. The first three songs in particular just don't really have any structure and they just all run from one to the next. Their songwriting is much more structured and focused now, especially from The Mountain onwards (apart from the Messiah Complex suite but that was intentionally bonkers).

I have to say though that on this point, I don't really get the DT comparison. Taking in their whole catalogues, I think DT have done a lot more of that meandering in their songwriting. Perhaps rarely as much so as those three opening songs from Aquarius, but they do it more often IMO.

I fully get why someone would object to this about Aquarius, but I personally embrace the weirdness and the meandering. To me it's just a beautiful little oddball album that's totally unlike anything else (people say their first two albums are heavily DT-inspired... I see that for Visions, but not for Aquarius).
Agreed about the DT comparison.

I definitely don't mind weirdness and quirkiness - Messiah Complex is crazier than any of the early stuff and I love it. My comments about Aquarius were very much relative, and I still love the album. I just like all the others more.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 16, 2021, 02:47:00 PM
Probably considered by most as Haken's wussy song but I absolutely love Earthrise. It's in my top 5 tracks by Haken.

That’s the third song I considered sending. Didn’t think TAC would like it, but I think it’s pretty great.
Another huge Earthrise fan here, one of my favourites on Affinity.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 02:48:06 PM
As one of the biggest Haken fans here, and certainly the longest standing, there's a bunch of stuff I'd like to respond to while I can before we get to results and move onto the next band. :lol


I really enjoyed my first couple of listens. The music is really good, the hate on the vocals was overrated, and the songs were pretty strong.
As before, absolutely delighted with this.


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There's a reason Dream Theater are the standard bearers of this genre. Mostly, it's Dream Theater's musicality. They are melodically superior while still displaying virtuosic chops.
Tastes is tastes, for sure. Personally, I find Haken's melodic approach more interesting (or perhaps better to say more consistently interesting) than DT's. DT's approach is somewhat rooted in classic rock (I don't mean that in a reductive way at all and obviously they bring in lots of other influences), whereas Haken's leans more into both melancholy and, for want of a better word, unusual territories. Some of their big, sad choruses are just so beautiful and get me more than any DT song. But some are less immediate and even as a huge fan I'm not normally sold straight away, but I basically always completely come around after listening enough.


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And for me, they have a vocalist that pulls emotion out of me.

1. Seems like Ross is a lightning rod around here.  The positive.. I think he sounds fine. He's an excellent vocalist with range and variation. I don't have an issue with his voice.

BUT... I'm not saying he doesn't sing with passion, because I think he does, but for the most part, it's not really drawing it out of me.
Again tastes is tastes, but it's worth noting that the submissions in this round have been very focused towards the heavier end of their music. You've got Deathless and Ross sounds good there but his voice wasn't as strong on those first two albums. But The Mountain and Affinity in particular have some gentler and more delicate moments and I think he delivers them with a ton of emotion.


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2. The keyboards... Again, my point of reference is again, Dream Theater. No one is more wanky than Jordan, but 95% of the time, he's doing what is right for the song. I think of the brilliant piano outro to Transcending Time. There's nothing even remotely as moving in these songs. As much as Jordan stands out, his accompaniment is amazing. With Haken, I feel like this guy has no idea how to...blend. I don't mind keyboards in my music, but there's a tastefulness that is lacking generally. There ARE exceptions to this though. But generally..
And I am frankly not a fan of electronic elements in my music. 7:15 of ITNOG is as much electronica as I want in my music.
I can understand this. I'm not a huge fan of Diego, but I do love his sound design work on Affinity. But if you're not into the electronics, I can see how even that might not appeal consistently.


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3. I'm hearing low tuned guitars. That is grating.
There's a mix but yeah they do often use 7- and 8-string guitars. Quite a modern style I guess. I have no problem with it.


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4. The drumming is fantastic, as is the bassist.
They've had two bassists, both awesome, and yeah Ray is a great drummer and has got better and better with each album.


When I first sampled Haken (courtesy of some posts way back when by Arich), I thought they sounded interesting enough that I went out and bought their first album, Aquarius, reckoning that they'd be right in my wheelhouse. Then I listened to the album. 

For me, the music seemed to meander pointlessly. To use a classic TAC phrase, "the music didn't really go anywhere". I didn't hear any songs, just arrangements (extremely well-played, I'll grant) that moved from section to section without any point of reference for me grasp.
That was definitely an issue with Aquarius, and it's the main reason it's easily my least favourite of theirs. The first three songs in particular just don't really have any structure and they just all run from one to the next. Their songwriting is much more structured and focused now, especially from The Mountain onwards (apart from the Messiah Complex suite but that was intentionally bonkers).

I have to say though that on this point, I don't really get the DT comparison. Taking in their whole catalogues, I think DT have done a lot more of that meandering in their songwriting. Perhaps rarely as much so as those three opening songs from Aquarius, but they do it more often IMO.



This is not the roulette to have emotional investment.  :lol

 ;D



Just kidding. I appreciate your comments and I'll chew on them a bit!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 02:49:12 PM
Probably considered by most as Haken's wussy song but I absolutely love Earthrise. It's in my top 5 tracks by Haken.

That’s the third song I considered sending. Didn’t think TAC would like it, but I think it’s pretty great.

Then it's guaranteed TAC won't like it. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 16, 2021, 02:56:31 PM
This is not the roulette to have emotional investment.  :lol

 ;D



Just kidding. I appreciate your comments and I'll chew on them a bit!
:lol

But honestly don't worry, there's no emotional investment here in the sense that I'd have had no problem whatsoever if Haken simply hadn't been for you at all. Thankfully so, otherwise I'd have been hurting from Chad and Kade's onslaught. :lol But it's always really nice when someone gets enjoyment out of something you love, so I'm just happy about that.

And then I just thought I'd offer some reflections on the recent comments, but not trying to convince anyone of anything, just offering my perspective.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 16, 2021, 02:58:01 PM
Probably considered by most as Haken's wussy song but I absolutely love Earthrise. It's in my top 5 tracks by Haken.

That’s the third song I considered sending. Didn’t think TAC would like it, but I think it’s pretty great.

Then it's guaranteed TAC won't like it. :lol

Didn’t stop me from sending the other two though!

 :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 03:06:08 PM

And then I just thought I'd offer some reflections on the recent comments, but not trying to convince anyone of anything, just offering my perspective.

There's nothing that I have ever liked more than talking with friends about music.





Probably considered by most as Haken's wussy song but I absolutely love Earthrise. It's in my top 5 tracks by Haken.

That’s the third song I considered sending. Didn’t think TAC would like it, but I think it’s pretty great.

Then it's guaranteed TAC won't like it. :lol

Didn’t stop me from sending the other two though!

 :corn

Didn't stop me from not liking the other two though!

 :corn :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 16, 2021, 03:07:57 PM

And then I just thought I'd offer some reflections on the recent comments, but not trying to convince anyone of anything, just offering my perspective.

There's nothing that I have ever liked more than talking with friends about music.
Totally. I mean, that's why we all keep coming back to this forum, right? :lol

anyway results when
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 16, 2021, 03:10:08 PM

And then I just thought I'd offer some reflections on the recent comments, but not trying to convince anyone of anything, just offering my perspective.

There's nothing that I have ever liked more than talking with friends about music.





Probably considered by most as Haken's wussy song but I absolutely love Earthrise. It's in my top 5 tracks by Haken.

That’s the third song I considered sending. Didn’t think TAC would like it, but I think it’s pretty great.

Then it's guaranteed TAC won't like it. :lol

Didn’t stop me from sending the other two though!

 :corn

Didn't stop me from not liking the other two though!

 :corn :corn

As fully anticipated!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 03:15:47 PM
anyway results when

No sooner than Thursday, but likely Friday. I'm roughing out some writeups today. Got 6 done already.
I have even formatted my Results post...bolding/underlining/italicizing...

I have tomorrow off, but I have to take my wife into Boston for a doctor's appointment, and she ended up taking the day off, so sitting on my ass all day DTFing might be a challenge. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 16, 2021, 03:19:54 PM
Honey, I have no time to talk in the waiting room.  I have grades to finish. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: faizoff on November 16, 2021, 03:57:19 PM
Probably considered by most as Haken's wussy song but I absolutely love Earthrise. It's in my top 5 tracks by Haken.

That’s the third song I considered sending. Didn’t think TAC would like it, but I think it’s pretty great.

Then it's guaranteed TAC won't like it. :lol

Lmao already knew what the response would be even before sending it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 07:09:18 PM
Guys, what is the deal with 1985? What's it about? Why 1985?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 16, 2021, 07:10:27 PM
I can name at least three 80s-inspired songs that are named 1985, idk it's just right in the middle of the decade and sounds cool I guess
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 07:11:22 PM
I can name at least three 80s-inspired songs that are named 1985, idk it's just right in the middle of the decade and sounds cool I guess

Three?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 16, 2021, 07:12:16 PM
I can name at least three 80s-inspired songs that are named 1985, idk it's just right in the middle of the decade and sounds cool I guess

Three?

Haken
Kvelertak
Sabrepulse
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 07:13:06 PM
Sabrepulse? :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 07:13:51 PM
For everyone:

I wanted to ask..

Rank the 6 Haken albums.


Top 5 Devin albums?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: faizoff on November 16, 2021, 07:20:49 PM
For everyone:

I wanted to ask..

Rank the 6 Haken albums.

Affinity
The Mountain
Vector/Virus
Restoration EP
Visions
Aquarius

I'm into their newer stuff a lot more than the older stuff. Not that any of it's bad.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 16, 2021, 07:24:55 PM
Top 5 Devin albums?

In no particular order:
Addicted
Ocean Machine
Deconstruction
Accelerated Evolution
Epicloud

If you're including SYL then Alien would kick either Ocean Machine, Accelerated Evolution or Epicloud out.

But honestly, if you're looking for the best starting place it really depends on which part of his sound resonates with you the most.

If you like his poppier, more straightforward side: Addicted or Epicloud
If you want something heavier and crazier: Deconstruction or the Ziltoid albums
If you want something proggier: Ocean Machine, Terria

Aaaand if you want to check out his quieter albums (which you should because they're good), try Ki, Casualties Of Cool or even Ghost. :)

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 07:25:23 PM
I dropped the needle on the Sabrepulse 1985.

(https://c.tenor.com/saq4txiPs30AAAAC/qbert-game.gif)

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 07:26:44 PM
Top 5 Devin albums?

In no particular order:
Addicted
Ocean Machine
Deconstruction
Accelerated Evolution
Epicloud

If you're including SYL then Alien would kick either Ocean Machine, Accelerated Evolution or Epicloud out.

But honestly, if you're looking for the best starting place it really depends on which part of his sound resonates with you the most.

If you like his poppier, more straightforward side: Addicted or Epicloud
If you want something heavier and crazier: Deconstruction or the Ziltoid albums
If you want something proggier: Ocean Machine, Terria

Aaaand if you want to check out his quieter albums (which you should because they're good), try Ki, Casualties Of Cool or even Ghost. :)

Thanks Buddy. that's a great breakdown. I promise I am on the Devin path after this roulette.




Hey, you still on for the DT show?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 16, 2021, 07:27:52 PM
I dropped the needle on the Sabrepulse 1985.

(https://c.tenor.com/saq4txiPs30AAAAC/qbert-game.gif)

I never said it was a recommendation. :lol

Thanks Buddy. that's a great breakdown. I promise I am on the Devin path after this roulette.

Hey, you still on for the DT show?

Yup!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 07:37:41 PM
I'm so glad they moved it. No worse night of the entire year to drive into Boston than the Tuesday before Thanksgiving. Plus, I would've had to be at work at 5am the next day.

A Friday night now! Yes!! My son will be going with me. He'll be 19 by the time of the show.



Wild we're sitting right next to each other! :lol

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 16, 2021, 07:39:32 PM
Guys, what is the deal with 1985? What's it about? Why 1985?

I have no idea but always assumed it was some sort of Tron/The Matrix type of thing.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 07:41:37 PM
Guys, what is the deal with 1985? What's it about? Why 1985?

I have no idea but always assumed it was some sort of Tron/Matrix type of thing.

Tron? :rollin








I dropped the needle on the Sabrepulse 1985.

(https://c.tenor.com/saq4txiPs30AAAAC/qbert-game.gif)

I never said it was a recommendation. :lol

Under what circumstance would you ever listen to something like this?

In the car?
Working out?
Bathing the cats?
WTF?? :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 16, 2021, 07:44:49 PM
From Wikipedia:

Affinity covers subjects such as the evolution of computing and humanity, the relationship between man and machine, human behavior and modern society, and it also asks if "artificial intelligence will ever surpass the human capacity to create/recreate life".[4][5][6] When asked if it was a concept album, the vocalist Ross Jennings said that it "is more like a soundtrack to a series of recurring themes than an actual concept album." He also said that none of the band members "feel like we've made our best work yet, let alone 'made it'. So that urge to produce something better than last time will always be there."[4]
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 07:46:24 PM
Cool, thanks, HOF.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 16, 2021, 07:52:58 PM
Rank the 6 Haken albums.
The Mountain
Aquarius
Visions
----the demos, tbh
Affinity
----Restoration
Vector
Virus

Top 5 Devin albums?
in no order, Ocean Machine, Terria, Ziltoid, Deconstruction, Casualties of Cool
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: v_clortho on November 16, 2021, 08:05:25 PM
To add to the Devin albums. Empath kind of covers all of his styles. Often in the same song.

for me.
1. Deconstruction
2. Terria
3. Syncestra
4. Empath
5. Ziltoid 2 - I'm sure this won't be a popular pick.

Thing is the bottom three could change from day to day depending on my mood. Top 2 are pretty much set though.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 16, 2021, 08:07:58 PM
Haken albums...

Crystalised (my favorite song of theirs)
The Mountain
Affinity
Visions
Aquarius
Virus
Vector
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 08:12:44 PM


Crystalised (my favorite song of theirs)


Why didn't you send that instead of the crap you did?




 :corn :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 16, 2021, 08:20:52 PM
 :lol

Didn't want to send an epic. It's almost 20 minutes long
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 08:23:40 PM
Last four songs I have to rough out writeups are

Veil
Carousel
Nocturnal Conspiracy
Pareidolia

I have NO IDEA how Paradeidolia will end up..



Earlier, I mentioned my wife took the day off. Nope! I have to bring her to work after her Dr's appt, so....I should finish writeups tomorrow. I have a general ranking going. Just have to assign scores.

Shooting for Thursday results.


I'll post my Haken album rankings based on the scores, as soon as I have them ready.



I am taking note of the album rankings, especially the Devin rankings.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2021, 08:32:55 PM
Honestly I woke up this morning and  wanted to hear Anneke song some Devin tunes.

I feel like my work here is complete.   :) :) :)

(Her latest solo album is a treasure as well.)

You did good, son.

I dropped the needle on that album. Maybe in 1996, but I'm not sure that's for me. Can I WATCH her sing it and listen to something else??






Anneke is good and all but honestly Ché is where it's at. :)

(https://www.biography.com/.image/t_share/MTgwOTk0NDgzMTA4NzE3NjU2/gettyimages-1000567242.jpg)




Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 16, 2021, 08:58:30 PM
(https://www.biography.com/.image/t_share/MTgwOTk0NDgzMTA4NzE3NjU2/gettyimages-1000567242.jpg)
No no no....

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/58d6063d86e6c087a92b2273/1520279122656-RNMVE7MPEJOSTEJVK2R6/cheaimeedorval.png)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 16, 2021, 09:29:58 PM
(https://www.biography.com/.image/t_share/MTgwOTk0NDgzMTA4NzE3NjU2/gettyimages-1000567242.jpg)
No no no....

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/58d6063d86e6c087a92b2273/1520279122656-RNMVE7MPEJOSTEJVK2R6/cheaimeedorval.png)

:lol

Ché is another vocalist Devin's worked with; she's on Casualties of Cool and a few spots on Ki and Empath. I like her voice even better than Anneke's.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 16, 2021, 09:32:25 PM
For everyone:

I wanted to ask..

Rank the 6 Haken albums.

1. The Mountain
2. Aquarius

[Big gap]

3. Affinity
4. Virus
5. Visions
[Restoration]

[Medium-sized gap]

6. Vector

I only know two Devin albums, Transcendence and Epicloud, and I haven't listened to Epicloud enough to compare them.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 16, 2021, 09:33:01 PM
(https://www.biography.com/.image/t_share/MTgwOTk0NDgzMTA4NzE3NjU2/gettyimages-1000567242.jpg)
No no no....

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/58d6063d86e6c087a92b2273/1520279122656-RNMVE7MPEJOSTEJVK2R6/cheaimeedorval.png)

:lol

Ché is another vocalist Devin's worked with; she's on Casualties of Cool and a few spots on Ki and Empath. I like her voice even better than Anneke's.
If I'm being honest I could listen to either Anneke or Ché sing all day.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Zoom E on November 16, 2021, 10:48:01 PM
Top 5 Devy:

Addicted
Infinity
Terria
Accelerated Evolution
Synchestra

I only have two Haken albums so won't bother ranking those.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 16, 2021, 11:43:41 PM
From Wikipedia:

Affinity covers subjects such as the evolution of computing and humanity, the relationship between man and machine, human behavior and modern society, and it also asks if "artificial intelligence will ever surpass the human capacity to create/recreate life".[4][5][6] When asked if it was a concept album, the vocalist Ross Jennings said that it "is more like a soundtrack to a series of recurring themes than an actual concept album." He also said that none of the band members "feel like we've made our best work yet, let alone 'made it'. So that urge to produce something better than last time will always be there."[4]
That's what Wikipedia says about Affinity, because that's what the band said at the time. Over time it's become pretty clear among the fanbase that it is in fact a concept album after all, with a narrative (which explores all those different themes/subjects) that can be taken at different levels. The basic premise is something along the lines of an AI that was created (and launched in a satellite, but that part could be more metaphorical) to look at humanity from the outside and figure out how to improve our lives/save us from some sort of disaster. But then something goes wrong and the people who created don't fix it (either because they don't know how or maybe can't be bothered). So the satellite just drifts away towards the sun and observes humanity collapse in on itself.

1985 is supposed to be when the AI/satellites starts its work, hence all the 80s sensibilities in that song (and to some extent in other parts of the album too).
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 16, 2021, 11:50:10 PM
Anyway, rankings!


Haken:
1. The Mountain
2. Vector/Virus (if I need to separate them then I give a slight edge to Virus)
3. Affinity
------
4. Restoration EP
5. Visions
6. Aquarius
------
7. Demo


Devy:
1. Terria
------
2. Addicted
------
3. Transcendence
4. Synchestra
5. Infinity

But I also love:
Accelerated Evolution
Casualties of Cool
Deconstruction
Empath
Epicloud
Ghost
Ki
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 17, 2021, 01:32:53 AM
Haken ranking:

1. Visions
2. Affinity
3. The Mountain
4. Vector
5. Aquarius
6. Virus

Devy ranking:

1. Ocean Machine
2. Accelerated Evolution
3. Ziltoid The Omniscient
4. Synchestra
5. Addicted

For me his discography is very mixed, some records are great, Ocean Machine is a top 50 all-time record for me, and others I don't really care for.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 17, 2021, 03:37:04 AM
Haken:

1. Aquarius
2. Affinity
3. The Mountain
4. Virus
5. Visions
6. Vector

Devin Top 5:

1. Ki
2. Terria
3. Ocean Machine
4. Casualties of Cool
5. Deconstruction

I would throw in either City of Alien somewhere if Strapping Young Lad is allowed as well.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 06:19:09 AM
Cool, thank you for the rankings. All over the place, of course.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 17, 2021, 06:55:27 AM
Cool, thank you for the rankings. All over the place, of course.

 :lol

Yeah, the albums are so diverse for me, even from album to album. The distance from Aquarius to Mountain is as big as that from Mountain to Virus.


That being said, The Mountain is the best and anyone who says differently is just wrong.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 17, 2021, 07:32:56 AM
A Friday night now! Yes!! My son will be going with me. He'll be 19 by the time of the show.

Wild we're sitting right next to each other! :lol

Nice! I'm going with my friend, and with my dad. He'll be 63 by the time of the show. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Stadler on November 17, 2021, 08:03:40 AM
(https://www.biography.com/.image/t_share/MTgwOTk0NDgzMTA4NzE3NjU2/gettyimages-1000567242.jpg)
No no no....

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/58d6063d86e6c087a92b2273/1520279122656-RNMVE7MPEJOSTEJVK2R6/cheaimeedorval.png)

Cher.  I saw her live, once.  And I watched Moonstruck this past week, where she's quite the looker.

I'm still Team Anneke on this topic. 

As for the Devin rankings, I like the Devin Townsend Project records most.  For me:

    Addicted
    Transcendence
    Ghost
    Deconstruction
    Ki

Empath is really good as well.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 08:39:58 AM
Stads, I didn’t take you for a Devin fan. That’s cool.

And Cher is a fucking skank.  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 17, 2021, 09:01:18 AM
Haken albums:

Aquarius
The Mountain
---
---
Vector
---
Affinity
---
Visions
Virus

Devin in no order: Terria, Casualties of Cool, Addicted, Transcendence, Ki I guess?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: twosuitsluke on November 17, 2021, 09:05:34 AM
I've been spectating a bit and I'd rank as follows:

Haken -

1. The Mountain
2. Affinity
3. Visions (literally based on the strength of the title track)
4. Aquarius
5. Vector
6. Virus
7. Restoration

I've never actually heard the demo. As for the submissions this round, if I'd been participating I'd 100% have sent Visions (can't believe not a single one of you sent this) and Because It's There.

As for Devy -

1. Addicted
2. Terria
3. Epicloud
4. Empath
5. Accelerated Evolution

That could change pretty regularly tbh.

I should've joined this roulette but never mind. Can't wait to see how many new Coheed and Cambria fans are born out of this. They are the greatest band in the world after all.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 09:10:11 AM
Someone help me with the very beginning of Pareidolia. I can’t place it and it’s bugging me.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on November 17, 2021, 09:43:19 AM
Someone help me with the very beginning of Pareidolia. I can’t place it and it’s bugging me.

What, that it’s kinda Home-ish?

Haken album rankings:
Affinity
The Mountain
Vector
Restoration
Visions
Aquarius
Virus
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Revenge319 on November 17, 2021, 09:50:04 AM
1. The Mountain
2. Vector
3. Visions
4. Affinity
5. Aquarius
6. Virus
7. Restoration EP (I've only heard it a couple times)

I think all these albums are great. The Mountain and Vector are more or less tied for first, I could easily have put Vector at #1 instead. Virus may be at the bottom, but I think Messiah Complex is one of Haken's greatest songs.
If I was participating, it's hard to say what I would've sent, but if I knew what songs were going to be sent ahead of time, I would've most likely picked Eternal Rain and either Cockroach King or Insomnia.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 17, 2021, 10:09:51 AM
Someone help me with the very beginning of Pareidolia. I can’t place it and it’s bugging me.

What, that it’s kinda Home-ish?

What, that it's kinda Forty Six & 2-ish?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 17, 2021, 10:22:45 AM
Just realized I am seeing 2 of the bands in this roulette this Friday  :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Stadler on November 17, 2021, 10:36:00 AM
Stads, I didn’t take you for a Devin fan. That’s cool.

And Cher is a fucking skank.  ;D

It's an interesting story (to me, anyway).  I never heard of the guy, except he was singing on Steve Vai's new record.  Listened to it, HATED it, and slagged him off from then on, for years.   What little I heard - Strapping Young Lad - just reinforced my feelings (the skullet didn't help).  Then Dr. Chadler sent me that Deep Peace live in a roulette, and I LOVED it, then I went and read his autobiography and really liked the guy's honesty (with himself) and integrity.   Figured I owed him a second chance, so dug into that live release (I think I told you; it's four albums, one a night for four consecutive nights, live) and they SLAY.   In the meantime, I had gotten into Anneke and so her presence didn't hurt).  I bought Transcendence and Empathy and loved them both.   I even went back to Vai's record and I like it now.  Still dislike SYL, though.   But I'd consider myself a Devy fan.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 17, 2021, 10:51:17 AM
Stads, I didn’t take you for a Devin fan. That’s cool.

And Cher is a fucking skank.  ;D

It's an interesting story (to me, anyway).  I never heard of the guy, except he was singing on Steve Vai's new record.  Listened to it, HATED it, and slagged him off from then on, for years.   What little I heard - Strapping Young Lad - just reinforced my feelings (the skullet didn't help).  Then Dr. Chadler sent me that Deep Peace live in a roulette, and I LOVED it, then I went and read his autobiography and really liked the guy's honesty (with himself) and integrity.   Figured I owed him a second chance, so dug into that live release (I think I told you; it's four albums, one a night for four consecutive nights, live) and they SLAY.   In the meantime, I had gotten into Anneke and so her presence didn't hurt).  I bought Transcendence and Empathy and loved them both.   I even went back to Vai's record and I like it now.  Still dislike SYL, though.   But I'd consider myself a Devy fan.

I wanted to send Steve Vai’s Touching Tongues (ew right?) just to see TAC’s reaction. He would have hated it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 11:07:30 AM
Stads, I didn’t take you for a Devin fan. That’s cool.

And Cher is a fucking skank.  ;D

It's an interesting story (to me, anyway).  I never heard of the guy, except he was singing on Steve Vai's new record.  Listened to it, HATED it, and slagged him off from then on, for years.   What little I heard - Strapping Young Lad - just reinforced my feelings (the skullet didn't help).  Then Dr. Chadler sent me that Deep Peace live in a roulette, and I LOVED it, then I went and read his autobiography and really liked the guy's honesty (with himself) and integrity.   Figured I owed him a second chance, so dug into that live release (I think I told you; it's four albums, one a night for four consecutive nights, live) and they SLAY.   In the meantime, I had gotten into Anneke and so her presence didn't hurt).  I bought Transcendence and Empathy and loved them both.   I even went back to Vai's record and I like it now.  Still dislike SYL, though.   But I'd consider myself a Devy fan.


Cool. Love that.

Skullet :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: nick_z on November 17, 2021, 11:31:14 AM
I'm adding my Haken ranking, because why not?  :biggrin:

1. Affinity (no doubt my favorite - such a fun, bright album with great melodies and cool musical ideas all around)
2. The Mountain

Then they are all pretty close (I mean it in a good way - I find even my "least favorite" to be a highly enjoyable listen)
3. Virus
4. Visions
5. Aquarius
6. Vector

Visions and Aquarius I basically like the same way. And, as much as Vector and Virus are clearly cut from the same cloth, I think the latter has a little more "color" and variety. It was a nice surprise last year. Then again, Vector might be last in this ranking, but it's a very, very good record.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: v_clortho on November 17, 2021, 11:35:33 AM
Who sent you "Deep Peace"?

Oh and the Vai album is awesome.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: nick_z on November 17, 2021, 11:41:04 AM

I feel like my work here is complete.   :) :) :)

(Her latest solo album is a treasure as well.)

Stadler - I actually have to thank you again for pimping this in another thread a few months ago. I had only listened to it in passing, in part because I hadn't been super-impressed with her solo stuff to date, despite absolutely LOVING her and her voice in The Gathering. Then, seeing your appreciation for it, I gave it another solid shot and it's indeed a beautiful album. Laid back but very lively, and with great melodies (and, of course, THAT voice)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 11:41:44 AM
Who sent you "Deep Peace"?


ProfessorPeart sent me it, and Stadler sent me the live version.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 12:01:14 PM
Someone help me with the very beginning of Pareidolia. I can’t place it and it’s bugging me.

What, that it’s kinda Home-ish?


YES.... but I feel like I'm thinking something else.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 17, 2021, 12:04:39 PM
Someone help me with the very beginning of Pareidolia. I can’t place it and it’s bugging me.

What, that it’s kinda Home-ish?

What, that it's kinda Forty Six & 2-ish?

Tim, this.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 12:10:10 PM
Someone help me with the very beginning of Pareidolia. I can’t place it and it’s bugging me.

What, that it’s kinda Home-ish?

What, that it's kinda Forty Six & 2-ish?

Tim, this.

Damn...that is close...but...I've never heard 46 & 2 before. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 17, 2021, 12:37:03 PM
Someone help me with the very beginning of Pareidolia. I can’t place it and it’s bugging me.

What, that it’s kinda Home-ish?

What, that it's kinda Forty Six & 2-ish?

Tim, this.

Damn...that is close...but...I've never heard 46 & 2 before. :lol

Why the fuck isn't there a Tool round, then? :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 17, 2021, 12:37:59 PM
Someone help me with the very beginning of Pareidolia. I can’t place it and it’s bugging me.

What, that it’s kinda Home-ish?

What, that it's kinda Forty Six & 2-ish?

Tim, this.

Damn...that is close...but...I've never heard 46 & 2 before. :lol

(https://i.postimg.cc/ncvmgqc6/say-what.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2021, 12:41:53 PM
Someone help me with the very beginning of Pareidolia. I can’t place it and it’s bugging me.

What, that it’s kinda Home-ish?

What, that it's kinda Forty Six & 2-ish?

Tim, this.

Damn...that is close...but...I've never heard 46 & 2 before. :lol

Motherfucking Tool round initiated
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: LudwigVan on November 17, 2021, 01:13:21 PM
Someone help me with the very beginning of Pareidolia. I can’t place it and it’s bugging me.

What, that it’s kinda Home-ish?

What, that it's kinda Forty Six & 2-ish?

Tim, this.

Damn...that is close...but...I've never heard 46 & 2 before. :lol

Motherfucking Tool round initiated

YES
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 17, 2021, 01:15:17 PM
Please don't :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 17, 2021, 01:31:57 PM
We should all just send TAC 2 BTBAM songs and 2 Tool songs next round :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 17, 2021, 01:37:24 PM
I've heard only one Tool song and I thought it was kind of boring. But that was many years ago.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 17, 2021, 01:41:46 PM
I've heard only one Tool song and I thought it was kind of boring. But that was many years ago.

Which song was that, if you remember?

I go through phases with Tool where I listen to all their music consistently, and then don't listen to them for months.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 01:41:55 PM
I've heard only one Tool song and I thought it was kind of boring. But that was many years ago.

It's the same song.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 17, 2021, 01:43:39 PM
I've heard only one Tool song and I thought it was kind of boring. But that was many years ago.

Which song was that, if you remember?

I go through phases with Tool where I listen to all their music consistently, and then don't listen to them for months.

Don't remember the song name, but it had like CGI worms or something in the music video.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 17, 2021, 03:12:56 PM
I personally think Tool have some cool stuff, but in general they’re massively overrated and unreasonably deified for doing nothing noteworthy.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 17, 2021, 03:16:35 PM
Like Haken, Tool has one really cool album that I like (Lateralus), but I’ve never had any interest in owning any of their other albums. That’s as much Maynard as I can take.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2021, 03:17:32 PM
I've heard only one Tool song and I thought it was kind of boring. But that was many years ago.

Which song was that, if you remember?

I go through phases with Tool where I listen to all their music consistently, and then don't listen to them for months.

Don't remember the song name, but it had like CGI worms or something in the music video.

Was that Schism I wonder?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 17, 2021, 03:18:15 PM
Like Haken, Tool has one really cool album that I like (Lateralus), but I’ve never had any interest in owning any of their other albums. That’s as much Maynard as I can take.
you're not missing anything! the front half of 10,000 days is pretty solid i guess. the back half is boring. and aenema does nothing for me either.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2021, 03:18:25 PM
Aenima made number 2 on my top 50, so there's my opinion on Tool.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 17, 2021, 03:32:35 PM
Don't remember the song name, but it had like CGI worms or something in the music video.

Was that Schism I wonder?

Those don't look like the worms I remember. Going off of related videos, I think it's Vicarious. Those look more like the worms I remember.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 17, 2021, 03:38:20 PM
Don't remember the song name, but it had like CGI worms or something in the music video.

Was that Schism I wonder?

Those don't look like the worms I remember. Going off of related videos, I think it's Vicarious. Those look more like the worms I remember.

So many Tool worm videos.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: v_clortho on November 17, 2021, 04:11:52 PM
Who sent you "Deep Peace"?


ProfessorPeart sent me it, and Stadler sent me the live version.

Sorry, that was meant for Stadler.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 04:17:48 PM
Who sent you "Deep Peace"?


ProfessorPeart sent me it, and Stadler sent me the live version.

Sorry, that was meant for Stadler.

I thought he said JBoy did.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 17, 2021, 04:37:59 PM
Those don't look like the worms I remember. Going off of related videos, I think it's Vicarious. Those look more like the worms I remember.

So many Tool worm videos.

In my opinion, one worm video is too many worm videos.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2021, 05:22:07 PM
Don't remember the song name, but it had like CGI worms or something in the music video.

Was that Schism I wonder?

Those don't look like the worms I remember. Going off of related videos, I think it's Vicarious. Those look more like the worms I remember.

Probably.  I haven't seen any of them for years.  Love Tool but their videos never really interested me.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 05:44:27 PM
Results stats..

12 of 17 scored worse than last round.
The average score of the round dropped by .20, which frankly surprised me. I thought it'd be more.

I thought there were 4 excellent tunes, and a couple of good ones. The rest were OK.


If I were ranking the albums by the average score of their submissions in this round it'd go:

Visions
Vector
Aquarius
Virus
The Mountain
Affinity
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 17, 2021, 05:59:11 PM
hell yeah i'm screwed  :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 06:39:12 PM
hell yeah i'm screwed  :metal

You're one of the 5 ^s
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 17, 2021, 06:40:09 PM
yummy green caret :2metal:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 17, 2021, 06:57:52 PM
If I were ranking the albums by the average score of their submissions in this round it'd go:

Visions
Vector
Aquarius
Virus
The Mountain
Affinity
Uh-oh.... :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 17, 2021, 07:07:18 PM
If I were ranking the albums by the average score of their submissions in this round it'd go:

Visions
Vector
Aquarius
Virus
The Mountain
Affinity
Uh-oh.... :corn

Sorry guys, this is all my fault.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 07:09:45 PM
You're not the only one that sent 1985.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 17, 2021, 07:19:03 PM
I would call this extremely medium news for me—looks like Drowning in the Flood did decently well, while In Memoriam might have bombed. But I'm not at all surprised that the right strategy was "TAC likes Dream Theater, so send songs from the most Dream Theater Haken album."
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 17, 2021, 07:25:09 PM
I'm already rethinking my strategy. BTBAM is my dartboard round. I had Neal all picked, but am thinking about just saying screw it and not trying to be safe with both my picks. One is way out there already, thinking about just blowing it up.

Opeth might be my Wild Card round. PT is set, but I might blow that up as well. Still haven't picked Masto-tracks yet. He took Crack The Skye and H&G away.

Winning is for losers. Just go for broke.  :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 07:26:05 PM
So...Haken..

Thank you everyone for all of the submissions. This was a real eye ear opening experience.
Here's what I think. There were a handful of songs that I really liked. I will definitely do a run through of their discography, and if they release anything new, I will definitely check it out.
If I can find 3 or 4 songs from each album that I really like, I'll be happy.

I found the vocals just fine. In some spots, he was excellent. On thing Haken does really well is write memorable choruses. Sometimes, they seamlessly appear out of nowhere.

I feel like some people have a DT snobbery against Haken. But even though they're not nearly as good or as musical  ;D, I believe they stand on their own as a quality band.


So, am I converted?

More yes than no!


Two for two DTF!!!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 17, 2021, 07:28:43 PM
So we need to see them together Tim.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 17, 2021, 07:29:49 PM
This is the one thing I love about exploring music and giving bands a chance. You never know what you might find!  :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 17, 2021, 07:30:00 PM
I'm already rethinking my strategy. BTBAM is my dartboard round. I had Neal all picked, but am thinking about just saying screw it and not trying to be safe with both my picks. One is way out there already, thinking about just blowing it up.

Opeth might be my Wild Card round. PT is set, but I might blow that up as well. Still haven't picked Masto-tracks yet. He took Crack The Skye and H&G away.

Winning is for losers. Just go for broke.  :metal

I'm wild-carding on Neal Morse because I have no idea how TAC's going to react to pretty much anything I choose. I've got my choices lined up for Coheed and I know one of my Opeth choices. PT I think it literally doesn't matter because TAC isn't going to like them. But I'm definitely on board with the going for broke strategy on the whole. Gonna lean more into sending songs I like than trying to guess.

I still have not heard one note of BTBAM, and I've heard like one Mastodon song several years ago. Just gonna like read some reviews or something and decide. Don't have time to listen through a bunch of their stuff.


So...Haken..

Thank you everyone for all of the submissions. This was a real eye ear opening experience.
Here's what I think. There were a handful of songs that I really liked. I will definitely do a run through of their discography, and if they release anything new, I will definitely check it out.
If I can find 3 or 4 songs from each album that I really like, I'll be happy.

I found the vocals just fine. In some spots, he was excellent. On thing Haken does really well is write memorable choruses. Sometimes, they seamlessly appear out of nowhere.

I feel like some people have a DT snobbery against Haken. But even though they're not nearly as good or as musical  ;D, I believe they stand on their own as a quality band.


So, am I converted?

More yes than no!


Two for two DTF!!!

This is awesome! Glad to hear this went well for you.

I agree that memorable choruses are a real strength for Haken.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 07:33:28 PM
Rossults



Cyril

Falling Back To Earth.....8.8
 
Wow, this song was wonderful.

Interesting beginning. At about the :53 mark, this reminds me of Rishloo. The first 2:19 seems to set the song, giving way to the chorus, which is fantastic. I am all for the wanking from 2:37 -4:40, especially at 4:04 when it heavies up. While I do prefer my wanking in the first half of the section to be heavier, I can live with what it is. It’s still well composed. Nice classy section at 6:00 and it continues as the vocals join. Nice beefy riffing at 9:22. This song has patience without meandering. Love the soft bit before the final chorus explodes. So good.

Pareidolia....7.7

This song needs more listens, has a lot of potential.

This song, just in the first couple minutes feels so similar to a lot of things, though I’m having trouble placing the connections. The verses seem to move along uneventfully, but this has a really nice chorus. Has a cool instrumental section leading to a not quite haunting section at 4:40. This middle section does keep a decent pace even though it’s not rocking out. I feel like I like these middle couple of minutes over the first couple minutes of the song. 7:19…YES! This song ends strong, and it really takes its time getting there. A nice show of patience in the songwriting.
8.8+7.7=16.5/2=8.25


Romdrums

The Endless Knot....7.6

Lots going on in this relatively shorter song.

So, not sure what I was thinking when I posted the First Impression. The songs plods a bit for the first two minutes, but at the 2:00 mark, it goes into a nice vocal line. I don’t even mind the electronic treatments in the following part right before the awesome guitar solo. Nice vocal bridge after that. The slowdown at 4:00 is a nice touch building up to the final chorus.

Pareidolia....7.7

This song needs more listens, has a lot of potential.

This song, just in the first couple minutes feels so similar to a lot of things, though I’m having trouble placing the connections. The verses seem to move along uneventfully, but this has a really nice chorus. Has a cool instrumental section leading to a not quite haunting section at 4:40. This middle section does keep a decent pace even though it’s not rocking out. I feel like I like these middle couple of minutes over the first couple minutes of the song. 7:19…YES! This song ends strong, and it really takes its time getting there. A nice show of patience in the songwriting.
7.7+7.6=15.3/2=7.65



LudwigVan

Prosthetic...7.5

This song rocks. Pretty simple and straightforward.

Heavy Haken!! The rhythm under the verses is really cool. I like the chorus. 3:30 is a nice section starting with the solo .4:19 -4:32 is the best part of the song.
I should like this song due to the relative heaviness, but at 6 minutes, it really doesn’t offer a lot. There are way too many other interesting bits and passages in this round.

The Endless Knot...7.6

Lots going on in this relatively shorter song.

So, not sure what I was thinking when I posted the First Impression. The songs plods a bit for the first two minutes, but at the 2:00 mark, it goes into a nice vocal line. I don’t even mind the electronic treatments in the following part right before the awesome guitar solo. Nice vocal bridge after that. The slowdown at 4:00 is a nice touch building up to the final chorus.
7.5+7.6=15.1/2=7.55


Kingshmegland

Veil....8.5

Pretty incredible song right here.

Starts out strong. Love the underneath at 2:22. This verse is cool, and the chorus is nice. I like the part at 3:37..keys/horns? Then the whole instrumental section that ends at 5:46 is awesome. I’ve heard some electronica try and poke its head out a couple of times, but thankfully they whack-a-mole-it. Nice solo at 7:17. The song mellows a bit for the next few minutes, but it still maintains my interest leading to a slightly wanky solo section…which I don’t mind in the least. Easily one of the strongest songs in the round.

Carousel...8.0

This is a good song, but there’s no way I can dissect it in one listen.

This begins with some nice vocals, and the band starts off great. It builds a bit. Right at 1:57 for a couple of seconds, I love what I think it's going to do.....but it reverts back to a verse. Overall though, I like the heaviness it begins with. I like the cool mellow part in the middle. The instrumental section that follows it is…I like these kinds of sections. Sets up that nice chorus that emerges from it. It ebbs and flows some more till the end. Listening to this, it reminded me in bits of Train Of Thought. This is a quality track.
8.5+8.0=16.5/2=8.25



Lonestar

Darkest Light....7.0

This song feels a lot longer than it is. Not necessarily a complaint, but more of an observation.

I’ve had a hard time wrapping my head around this song. The structure seems simple enough, but this is probably the least pleasurable to the ears song in the round. The keyboards are kind of grating, and if Ross sang like this in every song, I’d be very upset.

Atlas Stone....7.5

The last two minutes of this was fantastic.

I like the piano it the intro. The chorus in the build up is a nice touch. It’s taken me a few listens to merge the verse with the chorus. So this has a jazzy section which, well, at least it’s not electronica. Quick nice solo follows it. That bass at 5:22…nice. Those are some sick vocals at the end.
7.0+7.5=14.5/2=7.25


Buddy

Veil....8.5

Pretty incredible song right here.

Starts out strong. Love the underneath at 2:22. This verse is cool, and the chorus is nice. I like the part at 3:37..keys/horns? Then the whole instrumental section that ends at 5:46 is awesome. I’ve heard some electronica try and poke its head out a couple of times, but thankfully they whack-a-mole-it. Nice solo at 7:17. The song mellows a bit for the next few minutes, but it still maintains my interest leading to a slightly wanky solo section…which I don’t mind in the least. Easily one of the strongest songs in the round.

1985....7.5

Not quite as immediate as some of the other longer songs.

Starts off pretty upbeat. Ah..Asia keyboards and electronic drums? Is this the 80’s? Is this what they’re going for? Not sure about the verse. The chorus is nice though. I have to admit, this song is pretty easy on the ears, even if unspectacular. Can’t say I love this part at 4:40ish. But the part at 5:10 is pretty cool.
5:47 is definitely an 80’s style solo section. 6:56 Holy Octavarium, Batman! That final chorus seems so much stronger than before. I think the instrumentation is stronger underneath. The last minute or so, instrumentally is excellent.
8.5+7.5=16/2=8.0



Kwyjibo

Nocturnal Conspiracy....9.0

Wow! Holy shit!

So..the first 2:30 of this song is absolutely phenomenal. Ross is fucking nails in this section. Amazing control, rising seamlessly in a couple of impactful moments. And then to even crank it up for the nxt brief section.  2:58-3:19…so freaking good. Smoking solo at 4:22, and the instrumental section that follows it, but before the wank, is awesome. The following vocal ends with a Freddie Mercury note at 8:15. The vocal that begins at 9:23 is amazing. Now this I feel. The ride cymbal and electric piano between the vocals are so good. If I have one complaint, the final 30 seconds is quite underwhelming, but the previous 12 and a half minutes are amazing.

Deathless....8.5

One of the mellower songs, but has a nice steady pace and build.

This song is really beautiful. Such a luscious opening. I kept thinking, how are they going to muck this up? Real tasteful playing in these opening verses, particularly the piano and drums. The chorus totally fits the verse. I like the guitar behind the next verse. Needs some Gary Moore right there but this is really nice. The song beats to the same pulse for 8 minutes, but I don’t mind. This is a beautiful song. The piano at the end, appearing out of the song as the rest of the other instruments fall away is brilliant.
9.0+8.5=17.5/2=8.75


425

Drowning In The Flood....7.8

Strong Structural Disorder vibe on this one.

Interesting vocal to begin the song. I do like the second vocal section that ends with the song title. From 2:01—3:17 there’s an awesome guitar solo and then the keyboards join in. Not sure I love the keyboard choices in the section. At the halfway point it slows right down. 4:25-5:50 what a classy and moving passage. Even when the vocals join it, it stays amazing. The band becomes whole again at 6:50 for a really grand section. If this were DT, for the last entire minute we’d be going Jordan WTF?
This is a fantastic song, but I can’t help but feel it punts the ending.

In Memoriam....7.0

I hope this song grows. It was a bit underwhelming at first.

Not a favorite, unfortunately. It’s kind of annoyingly keyboard in the beginning, save for the very first piano intro.. The only part I like is at 3:03, which is really cool. The chorus isn’t bad, but not nearly as memorable as some of the others.
7.8+7.0=14.8/2=7.40
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 07:33:56 PM
Elite

Puzzle Box....7.7

Even the electronic section in the middle couldn’t ruin this.

Puzzle Box has a great opening, continuing under the verse. OK..2:19..WTF is this? Guest appearance by fucking Q-bert? But the short section that follows it at 2:45 is great! The eltronica at 3:28..I guess it’s supporting but I could really go with out it. The section on a whole is really cool and eerie. Comes back metal at 5:20.  5:57 wow! Great section. Love the melody. Great vocal section to wind the song down. The drumming is nails in this song too.

The Strain....7.8

On the short side for this round, but I thought it was excellent.

Nice tight drumming in the opening verses. I like this prechorus, electronica notwithstanding.
This has a great chorus too. The mellow part in the middle is classy. Nice guitars in it. Back into the chorus, which has been one of the earworms of the round. The vocals are really pleasant on this. Nice concise and memorable song.
7.7+7.8=15.5/2=7.75




HOF

1985....7.5

Not quite as immediate as some of the other longer songs.

Starts off pretty upbeat. Ah..Asia keyboards and electronic drums? Is this the 80’s? Is this what they’re going for? Not sure about the verse. The chorus is nice though. I have to admit, this song is pretty easy on the ears, even if unspectacular. Can’t say I love this part at 4:40ish. But the part at 5:10 is pretty cool.
5:47 is definitely an 80’s style solo section. 6:56 Holy Octavarium, Batman! That final chorus seems so much stronger than before. I think the instrumentation is stronger underneath. The last minute or so, instrumentally is excellent.


Lapse....7.5

This song starts a bit iffy, but builds nicely.

This has a U2 feel to it big time in the beginning. It’s quite pleasant. It’s really groovy during the guitar solo. The chorus is nice. There’s certainly nothing I’d point to that I didn’t like, but there’s a lot more intriguing songs in this round.
This is a safe submission, but I can see how you’d have an..um.. affinity to it.
7.5+7.5=15/2=7.50


Ariich

Falling Back To Earth....8.8

Wow, this song was wonderful.

Interesting beginning. At about the :53 mark, this reminds me of Rishloo. The first 2:19 seems to set the song, giving way to the chorus, which is fantastic. I am all for the wanking from 2:37 -4:40, especially at 4:04 when it heavies up. While I do prefer my wanking in the first half of the section to be heavier, I can live with what it is. It’s still well composed. Nice classy section at 6:00 and it continues as the vocals join. Nice beefy riffing at 9:22. This song has patience without meandering. Love the soft bit before the final chorus explodes. So good.

1985....7.5

Not quite as immediate as some of the other longer songs.

Starts off pretty upbeat. Ah..Asia keyboards and electronic drums? Is this the 80’s? Is this what they’re going for? Not sure about the verse. The chorus is nice though. I have to admit, this song is pretty easy on the ears, even if unspectacular. Can’t say I love this part at 4:40ish. But the part at 5:10 is pretty cool.
5:47 is definitely an 80’s style solo section. 6:56 Holy Octavarium, Batman! That final chorus seems so much stronger than before. I think the instrumentation is stronger underneath. The last minute or so, instrumentally is excellent.
8.8+7.5=16.3/2=8.15



Wolfking

Prosthetic....7.5

This song rocks. Pretty simple and straightforward.

Heavy Haken!! The rhythm under the verses is really cool. I like the chorus. 3:30 is a nice section starting with the solo .4:19 -4:32 is the best part of the song.
I should like this song due to the relative heaviness, but at 6 minutes, it really doesn’t offer a lot. There are way too many other interesting bits and passages in this round.

 

Puzzle Box....7.7

Even the electronic section in the middle couldn’t ruin this.

Puzzle Box has a great opening, continuing under the verse. OK..2:19..WTF is this? Guest appearance by fucking Q-bert? But the short section that follows it at 2:45 is great! The eltronica at 3:28..I guess it’s supporting but I could really go with out it. The section on a whole is really cool and eerie. Comes back metal at 5:20.  5:57 wow! Great section. Love the melody. Great vocal section to wind the song down. The drumming is nails in this song too.
7.7+7.5=15.2/2=7.6


Puppies

Falling Back To Earth.....8.8

Wow, this song was wonderful.

Interesting beginning. At about the :53 mark, this reminds me of Rishloo. The first 2:19 seems to set the song, giving way to the chorus, which is fantastic. I am all for the wanking from 2:37 -4:40, especially at 4:04 when it heavies up. While I do prefer my wanking in the first half of the section to be heavier, I can live with what it is. It’s still well composed. Nice classy section at 6:00 and it continues as the vocals join. Nice beefy riffing at 9:22. This song has patience without meandering. Love the soft bit before the final chorus explodes. So good.

1985....7.5

Not quite as immediate as some of the other longer songs.

Starts off pretty upbeat. Ah..Asia keyboards and electronic drums? Is this the 80’s? Is this what they’re going for? Not sure about the verse. The chorus is nice though. I have to admit, this song is pretty easy on the ears, even if unspectacular. Can’t say I love this part at 4:40ish. But the part at 5:10 is pretty cool.
5:47 is definitely an 80’s style solo section. 6:56 Holy Octavarium, Batman! That final chorus seems so much stronger than before. I think the instrumentation is stronger underneath. The last minute or so, instrumentally is excellent.
8.8+7.5=16.3/2=8.15


Evermind

Pareidolia....7.7

This song needs more listens, has a lot of potential.

This song, just in the first couple minutes feels so similar to a lot of things, though I’m having trouble placing the connections. The verses seem to move along uneventfully, but this has a really nice chorus. Has a cool instrumental section leading to a not quite haunting section at 4:40. This middle section does keep a decent pace even though it’s not rocking out. I feel like I like these middle couple of minutes over the first couple minutes of the song. 7:19…YES! This song ends strong, and it really takes its time getting there. A nice show of patience in the songwriting.

Drowning In The Flood....7.8

Strong Structural Disorder vibe on this one.

Interesting vocal to begin the song. I do like the second vocal section that ends with the song title. From 2:01—3:17 there’s an awesome guitar solo and then the keyboards join in. Not sure I love the keyboard choices in the section. At the halfway point it slows right down. 4:25-5:50 what a classy and moving passage. Even when the vocals join it, it stays amazing. The band becomes whole again at 6:50 for a really grand section. If this were DT, for the last entire minute we’d be going Jordan WTF?
This is a fantastic song, but I can’t help but feel it punts the ending.
7.7+7.8=15.5/2=7.75



ProfessorPeart

Prosthetic...7.5

This song rocks. Pretty simple and straightforward.

Heavy Haken!! The rhythm under the verses is really cool. I like the chorus. 3:30 is a nice section starting with the solo .4:19 -4:32 is the best part of the song.
I should like this song due to the relative heaviness, but at 6 minutes, it really doesn’t offer a lot. There are way too many other interesting bits and passages in this round.


Shapeshifter...7.7

Starting with a nice guitar solo, the second half of this song crushes.

Professor, I’ll try and listen to the trilogy, but for grading purposes, I’ll take this as a standalone song. It holds up as is. I really don’t feel it’s incomplete in any way. I feel like the first three minutes of this are fairly unexciting. I do like the part that starts around the three minute mark, something about vampires. Love the ride cymbal in that section. The solo at 4:00 is tasty. Simple and elegant. 5:23…so good. 6:48 reminds me of the ending of Only A Matter Of Time. It takes a bit, but when this song gets going, it’s pretty good.
7.5+7.7=15.2/2=7.60


Vmadera

Darkest Light...7.0

I hope this song grows. It was a bit underwhelming at first.

I’ve had a hard time wrapping my head around this song. The structure seems simple enough, but this is probably the least pleasurable to the ears song in the round. The keyboards are kind of grating, and if Ross sang like this in every song, I’d be very upset.

Puzzle Box...7.7

This song crams a lot into it’s relatively short length. This will require more listens to break it down.

Puzzle Box has a great opening, continuing under the verse. OK..2:19..WTF is this? Guest appearance by fucking Q-bert? But the short section that follows it at 2:45 is great! The eltronica at 3:28..I guess it’s supporting but I could really go with out it. The section on a whole is really cool and eerie. Comes back metal at 5:20.  5:57 wow! Great section. Love the melody. Great vocal section to wind the song down. The drumming is nails in this song too.
7.7+7.0=14.7/2=7.35



Stadler

Prosthetic....7.5

This song rocks. Pretty simple and straightforward.

Heavy Haken!! The rhythm under the verses is really cool. I like the chorus. 3:30 is a nice section starting with the solo .4:19 -4:32 is the best part of the song.
I should like this song due to the relative heaviness, but at 6 minutes, it really doesn’t offer a lot. There are way too many other interesting bits and passages in this round.


Carousel....8.0

This is a good song, but there’s no way I can dissect it in one listen.

This begins with some nice vocals, and the band starts off great. It builds a bit. Right at 1:57 for a couple of seconds, I love what I think it's going to do.....but it reverts back to a verse. Overall though, I like the heaviness it begins with. I like the cool mellow part in the middle. The instrumental section that follows it is…I like these kinds of sections. Sets up that nice chorus that emerges from it. It ebbs and flows some more till the end. Listening to this, it reminded me in bits of Train Of Thought. This is a quality track.
7.5+8.0=15.5/2=7.75
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 07:34:16 PM
Round 2 Standings!

Kwyjibo...8.75
Cryil....8.25
Kingshmegland...8.25
Ariich....8.15
Puppies...8.15
Buddy....8.0
Elite....7.75
Evermind....7.75
Stadler....7.75
Romdrums....7.65
Wolfking...7.60
Professor....7.60
LudwigVan...7.55
HOF...7.50
425....7.40
Vmadera...7.35
Lonestar....7.25



Standings!


Ariich...9.0+8.15=17.15
Puppies...8.60+8.15=16.75
Kwyjibo...7.80+8.75=16.55
Stadler...8.50+7.75=16.25
Evermind...8.20+7.75=15.95
Kingshmegland...7.70+8.25=15.95
LudwigVan...8.35+7.55=15.90
Romdrums...8.25+7.65=15.90
VMadera...8.45+7.35=15.80
Professor...8.20+7.6=15.80
Cyril...7.55+8.25=15.80
Wolfking...7.80+7.6=15.40
425...7.90+7.40=15.30
Elite...7.50+7.75=15.25
Buddy...7.05+8.15=15.20
HOF...7.65+7.50=15.15
Lonestar...7.80+7.25=15.05







As always, check my math!!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Rossults!
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 07:36:52 PM
Let's get the BTBAM submissions in!!!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Rossults!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 17, 2021, 07:42:17 PM
WOOOOOTTT!!!!

And sent!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Rossults!
Post by: Lonk on November 17, 2021, 07:47:28 PM
Man, I should've played it a bit safer with my picks lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Rossults!
Post by: HOF on November 17, 2021, 07:55:43 PM
Hanging by a thread. Sent, begrudgingly (more like listened begrudgingly).
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Rossults!
Post by: 425 on November 17, 2021, 07:57:24 PM
Confirmed: I got too clever for my own good going with In Memoriam.

On the ending of Drowning in the Flood, I realized yesterday that the very end is a little strange when it's taken on its own, because it flows right into the next song. Glad you thought the song was fantastic otherwise, though! That 2:01 guitar section you called out is one of my favorite parts. 6:50, too. :tup

Looking at the standings, I feel like I'm far behind, but looking at the scores, it's all still pretty close.

I'll toss some darts at BTBAM songs soon.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Rossults!
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 08:02:25 PM
On the ending of Drowning in the Flood, I realized yesterday that the very end is a little strange when it's taken on its own, because it flows right into the next song.

Oh OK.  It just felt like a Jordan wank.



Looking at the standings, I feel like I'm far behind, but looking at the scores, it's all still pretty close.

It's still early. Just send what Ariich sends. It's working for Puppies! :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Rossults!
Post by: Crow on November 17, 2021, 08:05:50 PM
honestly the biggest plot twist of the round is you liking deathless that much  :lol
i mean it is def top ten haken for me and one of if not my favorite on visions, so
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Rossults!
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 08:07:37 PM
honestly the biggest plot twist of the round is you liking deathless that much  :lol
i mean it is def top ten haken for me and one of if not my favorite on visions, so

It is a great song.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Rossults!
Post by: 425 on November 17, 2021, 08:14:23 PM
On the ending of Drowning in the Flood, I realized yesterday that the very end is a little strange when it's taken on its own, because it flows right into the next song.

Oh OK.  It just felt like a Jordan wank.

Oh, THAT's what you were objecting to. Just re-read your post while listening to it and I was talking about something else, how the end is a little sudden. Yeah, what you're talking about basically is wank if you want to call it that. :lol


Looking at the standings, I feel like I'm far behind, but looking at the scores, it's all still pretty close.

It's still early. Just send what Ariich sends. It's working for Puppies! :lol

Dear Ariich,
What is a "Between the Buried and Me"?
Kindest regards,
425
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Rossults!
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 08:15:40 PM
 :lol

Perfect!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Rossults!
Post by: lonestar on November 17, 2021, 08:44:36 PM
I really think before the btbam we all need to get a first impression of Cockroach King.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Rossults!
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 08:46:42 PM
I really think before the btbam we all need to get a first impression of Cockroach King.


I’ll do it tomorrow as soon as I get gone from work.

That said, get the BTBAM songs in!!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Rossults!
Post by: Crow on November 17, 2021, 08:48:43 PM
I really think before the btbam we all need to get a first impression of Cockroach King.
this would be the perfect warmup for BTBAM's wackier side, tbh
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Rossults!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 17, 2021, 08:57:26 PM
It's still early. Just send what Ariich sends. It's working for Puppies! :lol
I'm gonna start looking for the hidden cameras if Ariich ends up sending the same BtBaM songs as me...  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Rossults!
Post by: faizoff on November 17, 2021, 09:00:41 PM
I kinda regret not joining this roulette. Other than Devy who I'm not familiar with at all, I would have had a blast submitting songs for TAC.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Rossults!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 17, 2021, 09:01:19 PM
I kinda regret not joining this roulette. Other than Devy who I'm not familiar with at all, I would have had a blast submitting songs for TAC.
Sounds like you need to run a roulette yourself!  :metal
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Post by: Revenge319 on November 17, 2021, 09:02:38 PM
I kinda regret not joining this roulette. Other than Devy who I'm not familiar with at all, I would have had a blast submitting songs for TAC.

I'm starting to feel this way, too. I would've really liked sending for the BTBAM round in particular.
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Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 17, 2021, 09:03:46 PM
I kinda regret not joining this roulette. Other than Devy who I'm not familiar with at all, I would have had a blast submitting songs for TAC.

I'm starting to feel this way, too. I would've really liked sending for the BTBAM round in particular.
I'm having a really hard time deciding on songs for this round. I keep going back and forth on several songs.
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Post by: lonestar on November 17, 2021, 09:17:04 PM
Aaaaaaaaaand sent.
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Post by: faizoff on November 17, 2021, 09:20:55 PM
I kinda regret not joining this roulette. Other than Devy who I'm not familiar with at all, I would have had a blast submitting songs for TAC.
Sounds like you need to run a roulette yourself!  :metal

It's been on my mind forever and one day I will get the willpower and mental strength to be able to self-torture and take in the terrible suggestions that come my way.  ;D
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Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 17, 2021, 09:33:30 PM
Aaaaaaaaaand sent.
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 17, 2021, 09:34:24 PM
Sent.

Thinking I'm just going to throw caution to the wind going forward.
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Post by: Crow on November 17, 2021, 09:47:52 PM
at the point where deathless gets an 8.5 and pareidolia gets a 7.7 we're basically dealing with a random number generator as far as i'm concerned so i'm just gonna stick to my guns with all the stuff i've sent so far  :lol
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 17, 2021, 09:51:51 PM
at the point where deathless gets an 8.5 and pareidolia gets a 7.7 we're basically dealing with a random number generator as far as i'm concerned so i'm just gonna stick to my guns with all the stuff i've sent so far  :lol

 :rollin Yeah, beneath the surface level TAC's tastes are an enigma wrapped in a mystery as far as I'm concerned.

I know one of by BTBAM submissions, the other I'm still mulling over. Hard when all of my favorite songs by them are banned. Will send soon tho
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Post by: lonestar on November 17, 2021, 10:26:09 PM
One was my song of the year it was released. The other I just picked at random almost. As someone else said, it's really hard to single out tracks in a btbam album.
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Post by: 425 on November 17, 2021, 10:50:46 PM
Just sent my blind submission, guided only by "what seems popular on reddit."
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 17, 2021, 10:57:58 PM
Just sent my blind submission, guided only by "what seems popular on reddit."

My 2 songs were based off of the 90 second clips in iTunes. I have not heard any more than that of either song. TAC will have heard more than me by the time he gets to them.

I have no music streaming service so clips are all I got.
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Post by: LudwigVan on November 17, 2021, 11:39:37 PM
Sent, but my ears are still bleeding.

Although I recognize how good these musicians are, I just don't get BTBAM. Easily my least favorite band in the roulette. And when I listened to some of the clean vocal parts, I couldn't help thinking: Coldplay.
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Post by: ariich on November 17, 2021, 11:45:16 PM
honestly the biggest plot twist of the round is you liking deathless that much  :lol
i mean it is def top ten haken for me and one of if not my favorite on visions, so
Yeah all of this, I didn't expect Tim to like a song that's both long and slow as much but I'm pleasantly surprised he did (even though it means Kwyji has gained ground on me!).

Anyway that round was awesome and very pleasing.


Just sent my blind submission, guided only by "what seems popular on reddit."

My 2 songs were based off of the 90 second clips in iTunes. I have not heard any more than that of either song. TAC will have heard more than me by the time he gets to them.

I have no music streaming service so clips are all I got.
Narrator: And then 425 and ProfessorPeart won the round.
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Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2021, 11:54:34 PM
I love BTBAM but I haven't a clue what to send.
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Post by: ariich on November 18, 2021, 12:10:41 AM
I've narrowed it down to four songs, but damn it's now really hard to choose.

Tim will probably like them all, but obviously I want to pick the ones he'll like most.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on November 18, 2021, 12:24:12 AM
Yay, nice  :metal

And why are you all so surprised that Tim likes a song like Deathless? We all know that inside a metalhead there's always a soft spot.  :D



And now to find some BTBAM to send, so out with the darts and see where they stick.
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Post by: Crow on November 18, 2021, 12:34:10 AM
i think my picks are pretty close to flawless given that i don't have their best album or their best song to work with, but from what's left, nah, i think i nailed it
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Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2021, 12:37:36 AM
i think my picks are pretty close to flawless given that i don't have their best album or their best song to work with, but from what's left, nah, i think i nailed it

Sending BTBAM to Tim last time was so much easier when White Walls was available.
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Post by: Crow on November 18, 2021, 12:43:48 AM
that's the one i mean when i refer to "their best song", yes  :tup
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Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2021, 12:49:34 AM
that's the one i mean when i refer to "their best song", yes  :tup

I know, that's why I posted that.  :D
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Post by: Elite on November 18, 2021, 12:53:19 AM
wtf, Nocturnal Conspiracy wins the round :lol

sending soon!

edit: crap, I can't send The Great Misdirect? Well, that's kind-of a bummer. Everything afterwards is a) not as good and b) not memorable enough to me to be able to pick out two songs right now :)
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Post by: ariich on November 18, 2021, 01:19:37 AM
edit: crap, I can't send The Great Misdirect? Well, that's kind-of a bummer. Everything afterwards is a) not as good and b) not memorable enough to me to be able to pick out two songs right now :)
Strongly disagree. For me, everything from Parrallax II onwards is better than eveything before.
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Post by: Crow on November 18, 2021, 01:34:07 AM
this a bad time to say neither of my picks were off parallax II, huh?
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Post by: Kwyjibo on November 18, 2021, 01:54:17 AM
wtf, Nocturnal Conspiracy wins the round :lol

And rightfully so  ;D


And sent for the next round.
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Post by: Elite on November 18, 2021, 03:36:38 AM
edit: crap, I can't send The Great Misdirect? Well, that's kind-of a bummer. Everything afterwards is a) not as good and b) not memorable enough to me to be able to pick out two songs right now :)
Strongly disagree. For me, everything from Parrallax II onwards is better than eveything before.

My favourites from BTBAM are Colors and The Great Misdirect. I really enjoy the Automata albums, but the other three (Parallax, Coma Ecliptic and Colors II) kind of blend together in such a way that I don't know which song is which and can't recall any good parts. I feel like I must add that I'm also less familiar with those three albums.
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Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2021, 04:29:50 AM
Sent.
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Post by: ariich on November 18, 2021, 04:36:02 AM
edit: crap, I can't send The Great Misdirect? Well, that's kind-of a bummer. Everything afterwards is a) not as good and b) not memorable enough to me to be able to pick out two songs right now :)
Strongly disagree. For me, everything from Parrallax II onwards is better than eveything before.

My favourites from BTBAM are Colors and The Great Misdirect. I really enjoy the Automata albums, but the other three (Parallax, Coma Ecliptic and Colors II) kind of blend together in such a way that I don't know which song is which and can't recall any good parts. I feel like I must add that I'm also less familiar with those three albums.
I think familiarity makes a big difference with all of BTBAM's music. A lot of their albums are a whole work where the individual songs have less of their own identity, but e.g. that's definitely the case with Colors but if you know it really well, things standout more. They do have a few albums with more distinct songs though (TGM and Automata in particular, and Parrallax II and Coma Ecliptic are maybe somewhere in between). But for me that doesn't affect how much I like them.
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Post by: ariich on November 18, 2021, 05:06:36 AM
Sent some epic stuff.
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Post by: Elite on November 18, 2021, 05:07:45 AM
after everyone has sent let's start a guessing competition which song(s) were sent most

In fact; why not do it for every round? :D
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Post by: 425 on November 18, 2021, 07:11:21 AM
Just sent my blind submission, guided only by "what seems popular on reddit."

My 2 songs were based off of the 90 second clips in iTunes. I have not heard any more than that of either song. TAC will have heard more than me by the time he gets to them.

I have no music streaming service so clips are all I got.
Narrator: And then 425 and ProfessorPeart won the round.

If I win I'll listen to my submissions
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Post by: Evermind on November 18, 2021, 08:25:18 AM
I know 0 BTBAM songs even though I think I tried listening to Colors once. Time to roll the dice!
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 18, 2021, 08:29:30 AM
My 2 songs were based off of the 90 second clips in iTunes. I have not heard any more than that of either song. TAC will have heard more than me by the time he gets to them.

I have no music streaming service so clips are all I got.

YouTube is free!
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Post by: Evermind on November 18, 2021, 08:36:46 AM
I rolled the dice and sent! Gonna go listen to my songs now :lol

edit: one song was ehhhh, the other was pretty good though, I enjoyed it. Hopefully Tim doesn't!
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2021, 09:08:32 AM
Lots to respond to from the overnight. I will when I get home and have my keyboard.

I think we’re just waiting on:

Stadler
Elite
Buddy
Vmadera
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Post by: Lonk on November 18, 2021, 09:34:27 AM
Sent!
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 18, 2021, 10:07:34 AM
My 2 songs were based off of the 90 second clips in iTunes. I have not heard any more than that of either song. TAC will have heard more than me by the time he gets to them.

I have no music streaming service so clips are all I got.

YouTube is free!

I'll see if I can find them later. I'm on my work laptop right now and I can't even tell you the names of the 2 songs I sent. Not a clue. I have them saved in a note on my main home PC.
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 18, 2021, 10:38:31 AM
Sent.
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2021, 10:43:50 AM


I think we’re just waiting on:

Stadler
Elite
Buddy
Vmadera

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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2021, 12:12:32 PM
at the point where deathless gets an 8.5 and pareidolia gets a 7.7 we're basically dealing with a random number generator as far as i'm concerned so i'm just gonna stick to my guns with all the stuff i've sent so far  :lol

 :lol :lol

Deathless is freaking awesome. Pareidolia was OK.



wtf, Nocturnal Conspiracy wins the round :lol


Why is that a WTF? That song is great!

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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2021, 12:22:54 PM
I rolled the dice and sent! Gonna go listen to my songs now :lol


This PM gave me a good laugh this morning!


Rolling a d6 (six-sided die) for the albums where...

and a d12 (twelve-sided die) for the song here's what the dice came up with!

(https://i.imgur.com/X9inQgk.jpg)


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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 18, 2021, 12:24:32 PM
I rolled the dice and sent! Gonna go listen to my songs now :lol


This PM gave me a good laugh this morning!


Rolling a d6 (six-sided die) for the albums where...

and a d12 (twelve-sided die) for the song here's what the dice came up with!

(https://i.imgur.com/X9inQgk.jpg)



How the hell does this work if the first five albums are banned? Is 2 The Silent Circus? Is 2 Coma Ecliptic? Would 1 and 6 both be Parallax II? :lol

I guess there are 6 releases post-TGM if you include Parallax I and both Automatas as separate...
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Post by: Crow on November 18, 2021, 12:25:42 PM
i mean if parallax I is #1 then it works out from there
in which case the two songs picked are..... both actually pretty good picks for TAC, funnily enough  :lol
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 18, 2021, 12:27:39 PM
i mean if parallax I is #1 then it works out from there
in which case the two songs picked are..... both actually pretty good picks for TAC, funnily enough  :lol

Damn, you're right!

Also TAC do you mind if I send for Round 4 and 5 now? I've got two songs I think are decent for C&C and Neal Morse and I don't want to listen to either of them any more. :biggrin:
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Post by: Lonk on November 18, 2021, 12:39:52 PM
i mean if parallax I is #1 then it works out from there
in which case the two songs picked are..... both actually pretty good picks for TAC, funnily enough  :lol

Damn, you're right!

Also TAC do you mind if I send for Round 4 and 5 now? I've got two songs I think are decent for C&C and Neal Morse and I don't want to listen to either of them any more. :biggrin:

 :corn Wonder what your picks are
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 18, 2021, 12:58:40 PM
Ruslan, you are awesome.
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2021, 01:03:25 PM

Also TAC do you mind if I send for Round 4 and 5 now? I've got two songs I think are decent for C&C and Neal Morse and I don't want to listen to either of them any more. :biggrin:

Same reason we you got Haken results on a ..Wedneday! :lol

Send whenever you want.
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 18, 2021, 01:12:56 PM
i mean if parallax I is #1 then it works out from there
in which case the two songs picked are..... both actually pretty good picks for TAC, funnily enough  :lol

Damn, you're right!

Also TAC do you mind if I send for Round 4 and 5 now? I've got two songs I think are decent for C&C and Neal Morse and I don't want to listen to either of them any more. :biggrin:

 :corn Wonder what your picks are

Take a wild guess :neverusethis:
I wasn't able to find anything I liked better than those so
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2021, 02:07:56 PM
I really think before the btbam we all need to get a first impression of Cockroach King.

(https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-25-2019/62egI1.gif)
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Post by: Elite on November 18, 2021, 02:09:02 PM
Did Evermind just send the same 2 songs I sent? :neverusethis:
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2021, 02:10:13 PM
Did Evermind just send the same 2 songs I sent? :neverusethis:

No, you guys sent completely different songs.
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Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2021, 02:23:35 PM
I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once.  Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2021, 02:34:34 PM
I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once.  Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.

About 15 years ago, I worked with a kid that knew I was a big Maiden fan. He brought in a CD and told me I'd love it. It sounded intriguing, but I couldn't get past the vocals. Really strange sound.
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Post by: HOF on November 18, 2021, 02:38:32 PM
I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once.  Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.

I bought In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3 so I could review it for my college newspaper. I hated it so much I reviewed something else. I haven’t listened to it since but I figure I still have the CD. Guess I ought to dust it off and see if anything has changed in 18 years.
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Post by: ariich on November 18, 2021, 02:40:38 PM
I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once.  Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.

About 15 years ago, I worked with a kid that knew I was a big Maiden fan. He brought in a CD and told me I'd love it. It sounded intriguing, but I couldn't get past the vocals. Really strange sound.
My initial reaction was that Coheed weren't around 15 years ago but then I discovered that I'm actually old now.
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2021, 02:43:22 PM
I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once.  Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.

About 15 years ago, I worked with a kid that knew I was a big Maiden fan. He brought in a CD and told me I'd love it. It sounded intriguing, but I couldn't get past the vocals. Really strange sound.
My initial reaction was that Coheed weren't around 15 years ago but then I discovered that I'm actually old now.

Yeah, when I started to type out that story, I initially wrote about 10 years ago...but it wasn't. It was 15. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2021, 02:53:44 PM
I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once.  Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.

About 15 years ago, I worked with a kid that knew I was a big Maiden fan. He brought in a CD and told me I'd love it. It sounded intriguing, but I couldn't get past the vocals. Really strange sound.
My initial reaction was that Coheed weren't around 15 years ago but then I discovered that I'm actually old now.

So its official, we are old?
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Post by: ariich on November 18, 2021, 03:06:44 PM
I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once.  Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.

About 15 years ago, I worked with a kid that knew I was a big Maiden fan. He brought in a CD and told me I'd love it. It sounded intriguing, but I couldn't get past the vocals. Really strange sound.
My initial reaction was that Coheed weren't around 15 years ago but then I discovered that I'm actually old now.

So its official, we are old?
'fraid so, dude. As evidenced by how much I liked all that fogey music I got sent in my roulette. :P
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Post by: Crow on November 18, 2021, 03:07:22 PM
lol, old people :neverusethis:
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Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2021, 03:08:45 PM
I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once.  Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.

About 15 years ago, I worked with a kid that knew I was a big Maiden fan. He brought in a CD and told me I'd love it. It sounded intriguing, but I couldn't get past the vocals. Really strange sound.
My initial reaction was that Coheed weren't around 15 years ago but then I discovered that I'm actually old now.

So its official, we are old?
'fraid so, dude. As evidenced by how much I liked all that fogey music I got sent in my roulette. :P

And I participated and sent Thin Lizzy......
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Post by: 425 on November 18, 2021, 03:50:13 PM
I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once.  Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.

About 15 years ago, I worked with a kid that knew I was a big Maiden fan. He brought in a CD and told me I'd love it. It sounded intriguing, but I couldn't get past the vocals. Really strange sound.

I agree with that person that Coheed has some significance Maiden influence. But I can't argue with the fact that Claudio Sanchez has a Geddy-Lee-tier weird voice. I suspect it's an "either it works for you or it doesn't" thing and nothing we send will change your mind, but maybe 15 years has changed things.
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2021, 04:13:20 PM
I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once.  Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.

About 15 years ago, I worked with a kid that knew I was a big Maiden fan. He brought in a CD and told me I'd love it. It sounded intriguing, but I couldn't get past the vocals. Really strange sound.

I agree with that person that Coheed has some significance Maiden influence. But I can't argue with the fact that Claudio Sanchez has a Geddy-Lee-tier weird voice. I suspect it's an "either it works for you or it doesn't" thing and nothing we send will change your mind, but maybe 15 years has changed things.

At about the same time, I also worked with another kid that knew I was a DT fan and he made me a copy of Deadwing and Ghost Reveries. That's how I know those albums.
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Post by: Crow on November 18, 2021, 04:21:03 PM
I'm curious how many unique songs we have for this round so far   :corn
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Post by: LudwigVan on November 18, 2021, 04:26:03 PM
I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once.  Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.

About 15 years ago, I worked with a kid that knew I was a big Maiden fan. He brought in a CD and told me I'd love it. It sounded intriguing, but I couldn't get past the vocals. Really strange sound.

I agree with that person that Coheed has some significance Maiden influence. But I can't argue with the fact that Claudio Sanchez has a Geddy-Lee-tier weird voice. I suspect it's an "either it works for you or it doesn't" thing and nothing we send will change your mind, but maybe 15 years has changed things.

When I saw C and C about 10 years ago, they played a cover of The Trooper. It rocked pretty good.
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Post by: Lonk on November 18, 2021, 04:32:06 PM
Of all the bands in this roulette, C&C and mastodon are the ones I know the most (both in top 5 bands for me). I'm honestly struggling to think of what to send because I want to make sure Tim likes the songs, and that's going to be hard  :lol
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Post by: 425 on November 18, 2021, 05:30:12 PM
I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once.  Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.

About 15 years ago, I worked with a kid that knew I was a big Maiden fan. He brought in a CD and told me I'd love it. It sounded intriguing, but I couldn't get past the vocals. Really strange sound.

I agree with that person that Coheed has some significance Maiden influence. But I can't argue with the fact that Claudio Sanchez has a Geddy-Lee-tier weird voice. I suspect it's an "either it works for you or it doesn't" thing and nothing we send will change your mind, but maybe 15 years has changed things.

At about the same time, I also worked with another kid that knew I was a DT fan and he made me a copy of Deadwing and Ghost Reveries. That's how I know those albums.

Interesting. So do you know those albums pretty well? That, in my opinion, would make both those artists really tough nuts to crack, because those strike me as the albums from each of them that would be most likely to appeal to you.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 18, 2021, 05:30:30 PM
I have to admit, I find it strange when people that love 70's era Rush rag on Claudio's voice.

For me, it was nothing because he reminded me of early Ged.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 18, 2021, 05:33:48 PM
I find it a little strange, but not totally crazy. I find their voices similar, but not the same. Personally I like most of what Claudio does, but I merely tolerate early Geddy (I think he takes a significant step forward on A Farewell to Kings and then another significant step forward on Permanent Waves).
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 18, 2021, 06:04:08 PM
I have to admit, I find it strange when people that love 70's era Rush rag on Claudio's voice.

For me, it was nothing because he reminded me of early Ged.

I’m a Rush fan who tolerates more than loves Geddy’s 70s vocal style. My memory of C and C was that his voice sounded artificial in some way.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 18, 2021, 06:06:31 PM
I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once.  Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.

About 15 years ago, I worked with a kid that knew I was a big Maiden fan. He brought in a CD and told me I'd love it. It sounded intriguing, but I couldn't get past the vocals. Really strange sound.

I agree with that person that Coheed has some significance Maiden influence. But I can't argue with the fact that Claudio Sanchez has a Geddy-Lee-tier weird voice. I suspect it's an "either it works for you or it doesn't" thing and nothing we send will change your mind, but maybe 15 years has changed things.

At about the same time, I also worked with another kid that knew I was a DT fan and he made me a copy of Deadwing and Ghost Reveries. That's how I know those albums.

Interesting. So do you know those albums pretty well? That, in my opinion, would make both those artists really tough nuts to crack, because those strike me as the albums from each of them that would be most likely to appeal to you.

So I do know Ghost Reveries pretty well. That album did stick with me, but the band did not. I listened to their follow up once and couldn't tell you the first thing about it. And I have heard Heritage a few times.

I don't like Michael Akerfeldt. As much as I don't care for his harsh vocals, his cleans are worse. That is my memory, so we'll see if anything has changed.

As far as Deadwing goes, I remember liking Arriving Somewhere and The Start of something Beautiful, though I've heard neither in a dozen years.  I don't remember like very much of it at all. But again, we're talking 12-15 years ago.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 18, 2021, 06:14:13 PM
I'm curious how many unique songs we have for this round so far   :corn


Submitting my weekly post...

I'll post stats once Stadler submits.

 ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: faizoff on November 18, 2021, 07:18:11 PM
Regarding Coheed's vocals, it's similar to the band 3, Joey Eppard sounds like Claudio's brother. Though fun fact I guess Joey's brother played/plays drums for Coheed.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 18, 2021, 07:36:25 PM
I don't like Michael Akerfeldt. As much as I don't care for his harsh vocals, his cleans are worse. That is my memory, so we'll see if anything has changed.

What?!?!

Tim's a lost cause  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 18, 2021, 07:51:40 PM
well, that tidbit of information barely if at all affects my two picks  :tup
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 18, 2021, 07:53:20 PM
well, that tidbit of information barely if at all affects my two picks  :tup

Instrumentals are banned. ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 18, 2021, 07:56:38 PM
So...I'm about 10 songs in so far and it hit me. BTBAM is basically Death Metal Haken.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 18, 2021, 08:27:53 PM
well, that tidbit of information barely if at all affects my two picks  :tup

Instrumentals are banned. ;D
this, also, does not affect my two picks
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 18, 2021, 09:52:37 PM
So...I'm about 10 songs in so far and it hit me. BTBAM is basically Death Metal Haken.

Metalcore Haken*
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 18, 2021, 09:55:02 PM
So...I'm about 10 songs in so far and it hit me. BTBAM is basically Death Metal Haken.

Metalcore Haken*
I mean, they haven't really been metalcore since Alaska...
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 18, 2021, 09:57:41 PM
I don't like Michael Akerfeldt. As much as I don't care for his harsh vocals, his cleans are worse. That is my memory, so we'll see if anything has changed.

What?!?!

Tim's a lost cause  :biggrin:

Tell me about it. This makes me just want to send their cover of Soldier Of Fortune. Mikael is sublime on that track. Even my wife was blown away by it and she is not into metal or Opeth in any way.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 18, 2021, 10:04:34 PM
Was listening to Damnation the other night, and I thought Akerfeldt sounds a good bit like Ross Jennings actually.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2021, 10:18:32 PM
So...I'm about 10 songs in so far and it hit me. BTBAM is basically Death Metal Haken.

How dare you.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 18, 2021, 10:37:20 PM
So...I'm about 10 songs in so far and it hit me. BTBAM is basically Death Metal Haken.

Metalcore Haken*
I mean, they haven't really been metalcore since Alaska...

I mean, they're progressive metalcore. Closer than death metal!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 18, 2021, 11:16:06 PM
there is really very, very little metalcore left in them if at all. the type of harsh vocals giles does and that's probably about it. death metal is definitely closer to accurate but in many ways they're practically just a prog metal band that has some harsh vocals at this point
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 19, 2021, 01:17:26 AM
there is really very, very little metalcore left in them if at all. the type of harsh vocals giles does and that's probably about it. death metal is definitely closer to accurate but in many ways they're practically just a prog metal band that has some harsh vocals at this point
Pretty much this
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 19, 2021, 01:27:13 AM
Was listening to Damnation the other night, and I thought Akerfeldt sounds a good bit like Ross Jennings actually.

This I don't hear at all. If Akerfeldt sounds like anyone it's David Coverdale imo, at least in his lower register, but really only a little bit.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 19, 2021, 01:28:15 AM
well, that tidbit of information barely if at all affects my two picks  :tup

Instrumentals are banned. ;D

Which is actually a shame, because I would have sent you Nil by Mouth in the Haken round.


Does Opeth have instrumentals? Apart from Patterns in the Ivy I honestly can’t think of anything off the top of my head.
EDIT: Just checked.. I wasn’t really counting album openers, but there’s more of them.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2021, 04:09:07 AM
I'm kind of with Tim in regards to Arkerfeldts clean vox.  I never quite understood the praise they get.  I don't really have a big issue with them, but I've always felt he's pretty plain with his clean vocals.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 06:08:20 AM
I'm kind of with Tim in regards to Arkerfeldts clean vox.  I never quite understood the praise they get.  I don't really have a big issue with them, but I've always felt he's pretty plain with his clean vocals.

It feels like it’s fairly common with most harsh vocalists, no? Looking at Mastodon as well.


The cleans that I’ve heard so far in this round aren’t actually that bad.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 19, 2021, 06:15:31 AM
I'm kind of with Tim in regards to Arkerfeldts clean vox.  I never quite understood the praise they get.  I don't really have a big issue with them, but I've always felt he's pretty plain with his clean vocals.

I've always kinda liked them, but he's obviously no Dickinson, LaBrie, Mercury etc.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 06:39:42 AM
I'm kind of with Tim in regards to Arkerfeldts clean vox.  I never quite understood the praise they get.  I don't really have a big issue with them, but I've always felt he's pretty plain with his clean vocals.

I've always kinda liked them, but he's obviously no Dickinson, LaBrie, Mercury etc.

Thanks for clearing that up, Harry.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 19, 2021, 06:49:49 AM
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Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 06:54:28 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 19, 2021, 07:08:45 AM
I'm glad to see my silliness is spreading.  Dare I say I'm like a (Haken) Virus?  :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 19, 2021, 07:56:37 AM
I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once.  Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.

Yeah I'm doing this for C&C too even though I own the Good Apollo I'm Morning Star IV: The Writing Writer album. Also doing this with Neal Morse and Mastodon as I only own Crack the Skye.

Neal has so many albums I'll probably have to use a d20! :lol

I'm kind of with Tim in regards to Arkerfeldts clean vox.  I never quite understood the praise they get.  I don't really have a big issue with them, but I've always felt he's pretty plain with his clean vocals.

I've always kinda liked them, but he's obviously no Dickinson, LaBrie, Mercury etc.


I think Mikael's cleans are quite good. I actually planned on sending songs with cleans and I think I'll stick with that anyway.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 19, 2021, 08:12:47 AM
I was listening to the bands I'm unfamiliar with on my commute home. Opeth is interesting, C&C is quite good, Mastodon is Mastodon, but Neal... I just don't get it. Granted I was just getting Spotify offerings, but nothing appealed to me. The next round is going to be a grind, thank God I can't drop any further in the rankings.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 19, 2021, 08:39:16 AM
Yes, I'll be sending Spock's Beard next round..
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 19, 2021, 08:52:11 AM
I was listening to the bands I'm unfamiliar with on my commute home. Opeth is interesting, C&C is quite good, Mastodon is Mastodon, but Neal... I just don't get it. Granted I was just getting Spotify offerings, but nothing appealed to me. The next round is going to be a grind, thank God I can't drop any further in the rankings.

Neal is one of my favorite musicians, but his solo stuff since he left SB (including NMB) is not great.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 19, 2021, 08:58:07 AM
I was listening to the bands I'm unfamiliar with on my commute home. Opeth is interesting, C&C is quite good, Mastodon is Mastodon, but Neal... I just don't get it. Granted I was just getting Spotify offerings, but nothing appealed to me. The next round is going to be a grind, thank God I can't drop any further in the rankings.

Neal is one of my favorite musicians, but his solo stuff since he left SB (including NMB) is not great.
I don't quite agree, I think it's been pretty comparable in terms of being quite a mixed bag - some great albums and some not so great. That said, I think there a couple of Spock's albums that are easily superior to any of his solo albums. Though I'm not sure I'd want to send Tim any songs from them. Hmm, that's going to be the hardest round so far I think.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 19, 2021, 08:58:36 AM
I was listening to the bands I'm unfamiliar with on my commute home. Opeth is interesting, C&C is quite good, Mastodon is Mastodon, but Neal... I just don't get it. Granted I was just getting Spotify offerings, but nothing appealed to me. The next round is going to be a grind, thank God I can't drop any further in the rankings.

Neal is one of my favorite musicians, but his solo stuff since he left SB (including NMB) is not great.

I'll be sending two NMB songs. I tried listening to V and Snow and I just could... not. The NMB albums I checked out were far more palatable to me. I didn't bother with any true-blue solo records.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 19, 2021, 09:06:08 AM
I was listening to the bands I'm unfamiliar with on my commute home. Opeth is interesting, C&C is quite good, Mastodon is Mastodon, but Neal... I just don't get it. Granted I was just getting Spotify offerings, but nothing appealed to me. The next round is going to be a grind, thank God I can't drop any further in the rankings.

Neal is one of my favorite musicians, but his solo stuff since he left SB (including NMB) is not great.

I'll be sending two NMB songs. I tried listening to V and Snow and I just could... not. The NMB albums I checked out were far more palatable to me. I didn't bother with any true-blue solo records.

TAC and I are opposites, so you're probably all better off sending solo Neal stuff.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 19, 2021, 09:09:16 AM
I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once.  Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.

Yeah I'm doing this for C&C too even though I own the Good Apollo I'm Morning Star IV: The Writing Writer album. Also doing this with Neal Morse and Mastodon as I only own Crack the Skye.

Neal has so many albums I'll probably have to use a d20! :lol

I appreciate this valiant, though very incorrect, effort to write out the full title for GAIBS4V1:FFTtEoM. :lol

For Neal, I'd recommend making sure you stick with his prog albums. Those would be the first six Spock's Beard albums and these of his solo albums:
Testimony
One
?
Sola Scriptura
Lifeline
Testimony 2
Momentum
Sola Gratia

The four Neal Morse Band albums would also qualify, but many of the songs do not satisfy the 75% Neal lead vocals rule and you'd have to check your submissions. (This applies to anyone sending NMB. Also, I volunteer to be a "checker" if anyone doesn't want to listen to the songs or doesn't know what Neal sounds like—note that it's possible to mix him up with one of the other lead singers.)


I was listening to the bands I'm unfamiliar with on my commute home. Opeth is interesting, C&C is quite good, Mastodon is Mastodon, but Neal... I just don't get it. Granted I was just getting Spotify offerings, but nothing appealed to me. The next round is going to be a grind, thank God I can't drop any further in the rankings.

I find it interesting (though not wholly unsurprising) that a lot of DT fans see absolutely nothing in Neal Morse. His music, especially his solo and NMB albums (I'm exactly the opposite of HOF in preferences), incorporates a lot of what I like most about Dream Theater on an even grander scale. The grandiosity, the setting up and reprisal of themes, the use of technicality as a way to build and express tension... these are hallmarks of Neal's post-SB prog works that are also what I love about songs like Home, Octavarium, In the Presence of Enemies, Breaking All Illusions and In the Name of God.

The reason I don't find it too surprising is because I recognize that that's only one dimension of DT's sound and that other people respond to different aspects of it, and because I recognize that NM has other elements that are pretty different from DT that people may not respond to (probably most importantly, the fact that his voice is nothing like JLB's). But I just find it interesting because they're two of my favorites for many of the same reasons.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 19, 2021, 09:13:01 AM
The four Neal Morse Band albums would also qualify, but many of the songs do not satisfy the 75% Neal lead vocals rule and you'd have to check your submissions. (This applies to anyone sending NMB. Also, I volunteer to be a "checker" if anyone doesn't want to listen to the songs or doesn't know what Neal sounds like—note that it's possible to mix him up with one of the other lead singers.)
Oh, I didn't spot that rule, it wasn't in the OP.

Seems kind of strict. I'm sure some of the Devy songs were more than 25% Anneke.

Also seems pretty difficult to police, a lot of the big choruses have all of them singing in harmony.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 09:17:04 AM
The round is about Neal Morse. So Neal Morse should be the singer of any song sent. The Anneke songs slipped in because I didn’t realize they were even an option, so I thought I’d tighten up the NM round regarding vocals before I had to listen to MP sing.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 19, 2021, 09:17:13 AM
The four Neal Morse Band albums would also qualify, but many of the songs do not satisfy the 75% Neal lead vocals rule and you'd have to check your submissions. (This applies to anyone sending NMB. Also, I volunteer to be a "checker" if anyone doesn't want to listen to the songs or doesn't know what Neal sounds like—note that it's possible to mix him up with one of the other lead singers.)
Oh, I didn't spot that rule, it wasn't in the OP.

Seems kind of strict. I'm sure some of the Devy songs were more than 25% Anneke.

Also seems pretty difficult to police, a lot of the big choruses have all of them singing in harmony.

Yeah, people sort of ignored my question to TAC about vocals in the Devin round. I explicitly asked about that since some of the DTP stuff had other vocalists doing more of the vocals and TAC responded that it needed to be primarily Devin.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 19, 2021, 09:19:47 AM
The round is about Neal Morse. So Neal Morse should be the singer of any song sent. The Anneke songs slipped in because I didn’t realize they were even an option, so I thought I’d tighten up the NM round regarding vocals before I had to listen to MP sing.

I understand your motivation here, but just to be very clear: NMB is basically a band with three lead singers (none of whom, to be clear, is named Mike Portnoy) so you are cutting off a substantial amount of their discography.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 19, 2021, 09:20:08 AM
The round is about Neal Morse. So Neal Morse should be the singer of any song sent. The Anneke songs slipped in because I didn’t realize they were even an option, so I thought I’d tighten up the NM round regarding vocals before I had to listen to MP sing.
Yeah but in his current band the other guys sing too. It's still his band and his music and he does most of the singing.

Dunno, probably just means you'll be closing off stuff that you're probably more likely to enjoy. :lol

Yeah, people sort of ignored my question to TAC about vocals in the Devin round. I explicitly asked about that since some of the DTP stuff had other vocalists doing more of the vocals and TAC responded that it needed to be primarily Devin.
Bend It Like Bender is mostly Anneke. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 19, 2021, 09:21:39 AM
Yeah Neal's voice is so generic anyways I have no idea how much of his vocals are on my songs.

Bullshit rule (in my opinion) :heart
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 19, 2021, 09:22:37 AM
I'm gonna be a bit obnoxious about this rule if it stays in place because if I have to follow it, I want everyone else to have to follow it, too.

Edit:

Yeah Neal's voice is so generic anyways I have no idea how much of his vocals are on my songs.

Bullshit rule (in my opinion) :heart

I don't agree with the generic comment, but it is going to be difficult for non-NMB fans because I think it can be challenging to tell Neal and Eric Gillette apart.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 19, 2021, 09:24:27 AM

I find it interesting (though not wholly unsurprising) that a lot of DT fans see absolutely nothing in Neal Morse. His music, especially his solo and NMB albums (I'm exactly the opposite of HOF in preferences), incorporates a lot of what I like most about Dream Theater on an even grander scale. The grandiosity, the setting up and reprisal of themes, the use of technicality as a way to build and express tension... these are hallmarks of Neal's post-SB prog works that are also what I love about songs like Home, Octavarium, In the Presence of Enemies, Breaking All Illusions and In the Name of God.

The reason I don't find it too surprising is because I recognize that that's only one dimension of DT's sound and that other people respond to different aspects of it, and because I recognize that NM has other elements that are pretty different from DT that people may not respond to (probably most importantly, the fact that his voice is nothing like JLB's). But I just find it interesting because they're two of my favorites for many of the same reasons.

So part of it is I feel like Neal, when paired with MP*, falls into some of the same traps as DT did after Jordan joined the band. Everything has to be more extrem, more epic, longer, bigger, grander, etc. Neal's writing in SB just has more charm and a little more heart and soul to me.

*I love the early TA albums, but I think some of it started there. I will say Flying Colors is more restrained in general, and I do like those albums better than solo Neal/NMB.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 19, 2021, 09:25:20 AM
Yeah Neal's voice is so generic anyways I have no idea how much of his vocals are on my songs.

Bullshit rule (in my opinion) :heart

Can you get more generic that the screaming/growls in BTBAM and Opeth? Neal has a pretty unique voice in the prog world IMO.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 19, 2021, 09:26:14 AM
So part of it is I feel like Neal, when paired with MP*, falls into some of the same traps as DT did after Jordan joined the band. Everything has to be more extrem, more epic, longer, bigger, grander, etc. Neal's writing in SB just has more charm and a little more heart and soul to me.

*I love the early TA albums, but I think some of it started there. I will say Flying Colors is more restrained in general, and I do like those albums better than solo Neal/NMB.

I mean, that makes perfect sense, then. If you don't like that aspect of the JR DT albums (which I do like), then you wouldn't like it when NM does it, either.

Meanwhile Flying Colors does basically nothing for me. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 19, 2021, 09:27:21 AM
Yeah Neal's voice is so generic anyways I have no idea how much of his vocals are on my songs.
Tru dat.

Just means lots more work for 425 to audit all our submissions. :P

I'm gonna be a bit obnoxious about this rule if it stays in place because if I have to follow it, I want everyone else to have to follow it, too.
Oh yeah totally, I'm 100% about fairness and if the rule stays then I'd feel much happier if someone who knows their stuff was able to enforce it on Tim's behalf! :lol

What we ideally need is a list of which songs are eligible. But I guess that wouldn't be any less work for you then checking the ones that actually get sent.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 19, 2021, 09:28:34 AM
The four Neal Morse Band albums would also qualify, but many of the songs do not satisfy the 75% Neal lead vocals rule and you'd have to check your submissions. (This applies to anyone sending NMB. Also, I volunteer to be a "checker" if anyone doesn't want to listen to the songs or doesn't know what Neal sounds like—note that it's possible to mix him up with one of the other lead singers.)

Are you sure you won't mix him up with some female singer? (I don't think there are any on NMB but I couldn't pass the opportunity)

Also I'm sure I didn't pull The Writing Writer out of my ass. :lol That must be one of the songs then.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 19, 2021, 09:29:47 AM
Yeah Neal's voice is so generic anyways I have no idea how much of his vocals are on my songs.

Bullshit rule (in my opinion) :heart

Can you get more generic that the screaming/growls in BTBAM and Opeth?
Neither is generic but I totally understand how they'd sound that way if you don't like that style.

However, those bands don't have any restrictions for their rounds, so the comparison is moot.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 09:32:18 AM
The round is about Neal Morse. So Neal Morse should be the singer of any song sent. The Anneke songs slipped in because I didn’t realize they were even an option, so I thought I’d tighten up the NM round regarding vocals before I had to listen to MP sing.
Yeah but in his current band the other guys sing too. It's still his band and his music and he does most of the singing.

Dunno, probably just means you'll be closing off stuff that you're probably more likely to enjoy. :lol


Sure. But that’s like buying a Blue Oyster Cult album because I like Dont Fear The Reaper and then going WTF?

I think the 75% rule is fine. I don’t mind if he trades off some vocal lines.


Does Anneke song in any songs? If so, forget the 75% rule.  ;D

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 19, 2021, 09:32:54 AM
The four Neal Morse Band albums would also qualify, but many of the songs do not satisfy the 75% Neal lead vocals rule and you'd have to check your submissions. (This applies to anyone sending NMB. Also, I volunteer to be a "checker" if anyone doesn't want to listen to the songs or doesn't know what Neal sounds like—note that it's possible to mix him up with one of the other lead singers.)

Are you sure you won't mix him up with some female singer? (I don't think there are any on NMB but I couldn't pass the opportunity)

Also I'm sure I didn't pull The Writing Writer out of my ass. :lol That must be one of the songs then.

Speaking of that, who is Anneke? I thought Devin was singing everything.  ;)

One of the songs is "Apollo I: The Writing Writer." The album is Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 19, 2021, 09:33:17 AM
Yeah Neal's voice is so generic anyways I have no idea how much of his vocals are on my songs.

Bullshit rule (in my opinion) :heart

Can you get more generic that the screaming/growls in BTBAM and Opeth?
Neither is generic but I totally understand how they'd sound that way if you don't like that style.

However, those bands don't have any restrictions for their rounds, so the comparison is moot.

Ah, I kind of misinterpreted what Buddy was going on about. Still, I think Neal sounds pretty different from even the other people in NMB.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 19, 2021, 09:34:12 AM
The round is about Neal Morse. So Neal Morse should be the singer of any song sent. The Anneke songs slipped in because I didn’t realize they were even an option, so I thought I’d tighten up the NM round regarding vocals before I had to listen to MP sing.
Yeah but in his current band the other guys sing too. It's still his band and his music and he does most of the singing.

Dunno, probably just means you'll be closing off stuff that you're probably more likely to enjoy. :lol


Sure. But that’s like buying a Blue Oyster Cult album because I like Dont Fear The Reaper and then going WTF?

I think the 75% rule is fine. I don’t mind if he trades off some vocal lines.


Does Anneke song in any songs? If so, forget the 75% rule.  ;D

Alright 425, you're up:

The Call
Bird On A Wire

If either of those get disqualified I'm dice rolling Neal's solo albums and not even listening to the songs that get chosen. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 19, 2021, 09:39:02 AM
One of the songs is "Apollo I: The Writing Writer." The album is Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness.

Don't worry, I won't remember this tomorrow. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 19, 2021, 09:44:56 AM
Alright 425, you're up:

The Call
Bird On A Wire

If either of those get disqualified I'm dice rolling Neal's solo albums and not even listening to the songs that get chosen. :biggrin:

The Call is good. Almost every word is sung by Neal, some in harmony with others.

Bird on a Wire is not. Neal sings around 50% of the vocals: all the verses. Eric Gillette sings the choruses and Bill Hubauer sings the bridge.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 19, 2021, 09:45:52 AM
Alright 425, you're up:

The Call
Bird On A Wire

If either of those get disqualified I'm dice rolling Neal's solo albums and not even listening to the songs that get chosen. :biggrin:

The Call is good. Almost every word is sung by Neal, some in harmony with others.

Bird on a Wire is not. Neal sings around 50% of the vocals: all the verses. Eric Gillette sings the choruses and Bill Hubauer sings the bridge.

The Call and one RNG song it is!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 19, 2021, 09:46:34 AM
The round is about Neal Morse. So Neal Morse should be the singer of any song sent. The Anneke songs slipped in because I didn’t realize they were even an option, so I thought I’d tighten up the NM round regarding vocals before I had to listen to MP sing.
Yeah but in his current band the other guys sing too. It's still his band and his music and he does most of the singing.

Dunno, probably just means you'll be closing off stuff that you're probably more likely to enjoy. :lol


Sure. But that’s like buying a Blue Oyster Cult album because I like Dont Fear The Reaper and then going WTF?
But if you liked the Neal Morse Band songs where two other guys sing lead lines, and then bought a Neal Morse Band album, it would be along the lines you expected because those other singers would be all over those albums.

Quote
I think the 75% rule is fine. I don’t mind if he trades off some vocal lines.
I'd understand 50% in terms of ensuring Neal is the main singer, like you indicated for Devy (although you didn't enforce it). I just don't really get why 75%.

That said, I haven't actually chosen my songs yet and definitely have some NM solo and Spock's options.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 19, 2021, 10:06:29 AM
let's solve the neal morse problem by tossing the neal morse round and going with a different artist insteat :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 19, 2021, 10:08:18 AM
Tim won't know the difference in singers. Just don't rat each other out. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 19, 2021, 10:11:34 AM
I mean, the only eligible stuff where the multiple singer thing is an issue is the NMB stuff. He has like 10 solo albums plus 6 from Spock's Beard where he sings all but two songs (both from Snow. And I guess there are some parts of One with Kerry Livgren singing). It can't be that hard to find something that only Neal sings to send!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 19, 2021, 10:13:53 AM
I should expand on my critique in saying that it's his voice that just doesn't get me, his music is solid, albeit predictable prog. I dunno.....it just isn't clicking. I remember reviewing Momentum favorably years ago, and revisited it to very little interest on my part. :huh:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 19, 2021, 10:15:05 AM
It can't be that hard to find something that only Neal sings to send!

That's not the problem; it's finding something GOOD where only Neal sings. :neverusethis:

Are there any non-instrumental Neal Morse (solo albums) songs where he doesn't sing?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 19, 2021, 10:17:21 AM
It can't be that hard to find something that only Neal sings to send!

That's not the problem; it's finding something GOOD where only Neal sings. :neverusethis:

Exactly the problem I was having yesterday  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 19, 2021, 10:18:28 AM
he does have a pretty awful voice, and the music he makes is pretty unremarkable and often very cheesy or corny in a way i can't enjoy, yeah. would be a bad idea to send to TAC, i think!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 19, 2021, 10:19:13 AM
I mean, the only eligible stuff where the multiple singer thing is an issue is the NMB stuff. He has like 10 solo albums plus 6 from Spock's Beard where he sings all but two songs (both from Snow. And I guess there are some parts of One with Kerry Livgren singing). It can't be that hard to find something that only Neal sings to send!
Yeah but the only Neal solo/NMB albums I particularly like are One, Grand Experiment and Innocence & Danger. :lol

Anyway I have some options I think, including a couple of Neal-era Spock's albums I like a lot as well.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 19, 2021, 10:26:45 AM
he does have a pretty awful voice, and the music he makes is pretty unremarkable and often very cheesy or corny in a way i can't enjoy, yeah. would be a bad idea to send to TAC, i think!

Neal's music is certainly very earnest, which I think some people respond to as "cheesy." His singing style is, too, for that matter.

In general, I think there's a type of person who is really drawn to a certain type of earnestness, and a type of person who is really repelled by it. I notice this in the way people disagree strongly about certain musicians, movies, TV shows, etc. I'm definitely unapologetically in the first camp.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 19, 2021, 10:27:32 AM
It can't be that hard to find something that only Neal sings to send!

That's not the problem; it's finding something GOOD where only Neal sings. :neverusethis:

Are there any non-instrumental Neal Morse (solo albums) songs where he doesn't sing?

The only one I can think of is Cradle to the Grave off of One, which I'm 100% sure you would not want to send. (it's Phil Keaggy, not Kerry Livgren on that one).

There's also Jesus Christ the Exorcist which has a bunch of guest vocalists.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 19, 2021, 10:32:44 AM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Cradle to the Grave is it if you just take the list of albums I gave on the last page (I deliberately omitted JCTE).

The instrumentals are Transformation, March of the Pharisees, and anything with "overture," "theme" or "intermezzo" in the title.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 19, 2021, 10:40:20 AM
So I just checked a couple of songs with 425 that I was pretty sure were basically 100% Neal, but it turned out one of them was literally 0% Neal and I couldn't even tell it was someone else singing. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 19, 2021, 12:21:38 PM
I dare someone to send the Beard's Into Fire. The TACsponse to that would be incredible.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 19, 2021, 12:35:10 PM
I dare someone to send the Beard's Into Fire. The TACsponse to that would be incredible.  :lol

I volunteer as a tribute!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 19, 2021, 12:40:32 PM
I dare someone to send the Beard's Into Fire. The TACsponse to that would be incredible.  :lol

I volunteer as a tribute!

Guaranteed round winner.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 12:42:09 PM
I was trying to read through the gripping Neal Morse chatter at work, but I'm home now..
Gotta re-read it.  Has anyone seen Stadler today?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 19, 2021, 12:44:16 PM
Every round must have at least 0.0588% Stadler or it will be disqualified.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 12:49:08 PM
I'm gonna send out the bat signal...


(https://i.imgflip.com/5utp68.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 19, 2021, 12:53:25 PM
We need to end the divisiveness over Haken and Neal Morse opinions.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 12:55:57 PM
We need to end the divisiveness over Haken and Neal Morse opinions.

Coheed Round coming up.. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 19, 2021, 01:19:17 PM
We need to end the divisiveness over Haken and Neal Morse opinions.

Coheed Round coming up.. :lol
I dunno, I don't get the sense that anyone playing likes them very much. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 19, 2021, 01:22:57 PM
We need to end the divisiveness over Haken and Neal Morse opinions.

Coheed Round coming up.. :lol
I dunno, I don't get the sense that anyone playing likes them very much. :lol
i'm nobody  :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 19, 2021, 01:28:40 PM
We need to end the divisiveness over Haken and Neal Morse opinions.

Coheed Round coming up.. :lol
I dunno, I don't get the sense that anyone playing likes them very much. :lol

Of all the bands in this roulette, C&C and mastodon are the ones I know the most (both in top 5 bands for me).

I'm ready  :yarr
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 19, 2021, 01:38:07 PM
I stand somewhat corrected. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 01:39:14 PM
I stand somewhat corrected. :lol

Stop being so divisive! ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 19, 2021, 01:42:55 PM
We need to put an end to divisiveness by having everyone like the music I like and dislike the music I don't like.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 19, 2021, 01:51:29 PM
We need to put an end to divisiveness by having everyone like the music I like and dislike the music I don't like.

As a secret alternate account of WildRanger, I agree
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 19, 2021, 02:02:58 PM
I'm gonna send out the bat signal...


(https://i.imgflip.com/5utp68.jpg)

Hopefully you lost the Power Windows version of this.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 03:08:59 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/28n5ln.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/28n5ln)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 03:42:23 PM
The round is about Neal Morse. So Neal Morse should be the singer of any song sent. The Anneke songs slipped in because I didn’t realize they were even an option, so I thought I’d tighten up the NM round regarding vocals before I had to listen to MP sing.
Yeah but in his current band the other guys sing too. It's still his band and his music and he does most of the singing.

Dunno, probably just means you'll be closing off stuff that you're probably more likely to enjoy. :lol


Sure. But that’s like buying a Blue Oyster Cult album because I like Dont Fear The Reaper and then going WTF?
But if you liked the Neal Morse Band songs where two other guys sing lead lines, and then bought a Neal Morse Band album, it would be along the lines you expected because those other singers would be all over those albums.

Quote
I think the 75% rule is fine. I don’t mind if he trades off some vocal lines.
I'd understand 50% in terms of ensuring Neal is the main singer, like you indicated for Devy (although you didn't enforce it). I just don't really get why 75%.

That said, I haven't actually chosen my songs yet and definitely have some NM solo and Spock's options.


Is 75% really all that restrictive? I'm asking because I don't know. If it's truly that restrictive, then 50% is fine. I mean, I don't want to make it too cumbersome.

Like if Neal sings the verses and someone else sings the chorus? I guess that'd be ok.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 19, 2021, 03:50:49 PM
Like if Neal sings the verses and someone else sings the chorus? I guess that'd be ok.

Thank you. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 03:52:29 PM
And for the Coheed round, it's fine if Coheed sings the verses and Cambria sings the choruses.




I'm sorry..
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 19, 2021, 03:56:52 PM
I wish Coheed and Cambria had two vocalists, maybe I'd like the other one more! :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2021, 05:07:18 PM
I really don't want to listen to any fucking Neal Morse.  Someone tell me what to send.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 19, 2021, 05:16:44 PM
I really don't want to listen to any fucking Neal Morse.  Someone tell me what to send.

Song 2 from album 2 and song 3 from album 6.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2021, 05:27:22 PM
I really don't want to listen to any fucking Neal Morse.  Someone tell me what to send.

Song 2 from album 2 and song 3 from album 6.

Could be a trap.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 19, 2021, 05:50:48 PM
I'm merely repeating Ruslan's dice throw :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2021, 05:54:31 PM
I'm merely repeating Ruslan's dice throw :lol

Hmmmmmm......might be the play.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 19, 2021, 05:59:58 PM
i genuinely don't have time to actually explore neal morse's discog atm so might just diceroll until i get two songs that seem sendable, yeah  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 06:36:55 PM
I really don't want to listen to any fucking Neal Morse.  Someone tell me what to send.

Song 2 from album 2 and song 3 from album 6.

Could be a trap.

 :lol

What's the difference? It's all random to me anyway.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2021, 06:42:35 PM
I really don't want to listen to any fucking Neal Morse.  Someone tell me what to send.

Song 2 from album 2 and song 3 from album 6.

Could be a trap.

 :lol

What's the difference? It's all random to me anyway.

True, you're the one getting trapped.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 06:45:04 PM
Lot of bitching going on, but I'm the one that gets stuck listening to three fucking hours of Neal Morse for six days straight. :lol

I'm gonna need a reverse exorcism.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: LudwigVan on November 19, 2021, 06:56:49 PM
Lot of bitching going on, but I'm the one that gets stuck listening to three fucking hours of Neal Morse for six days straight. :lol

I'm gonna need a reverse exorcism.

I don’t envy you. And I LIKE Neal Morse!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 19, 2021, 07:06:25 PM
Hey, send me music that I don't get.


Hey how dare you make me sit through this?


You asked for it biatch.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 07:08:43 PM
I never said I didn't like it. :P

I've never really heard it.

I sampled something he did a couple of years ago and it was fairly nice. I've been very pleasantly surprised so far with the first three rounds.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 19, 2021, 07:09:51 PM
Snickers time. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 07:25:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/y7Jwhsd.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 19, 2021, 07:28:17 PM
Ask Chad,  RJ, HEF & Mason, Nick how they all failed getting Neil singing with me when he ran up to me at Rosfest.

Everybody froze as I sang with him for 30 seconds.   Lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 07:29:29 PM
So...only six people showed up to his show?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 19, 2021, 07:30:10 PM
So...only six people showed up to his show?
:neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 19, 2021, 07:31:32 PM
 :lol

About 1000 old farts sitting on our asses. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2021, 07:32:02 PM
Lot of bitching going on, but I'm the one that gets stuck listening to three fucking hours of Neal Morse for six days straight. :lol

I'm gonna need a reverse exorcism.

I might send the shittiest two songs I can find just to make it more miserable for you.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 07:32:34 PM
Lot of bitching going on, but I'm the one that gets stuck listening to three fucking hours of Neal Morse for six days straight. :lol

I'm gonna need a reverse exorcism.

I might send the shittiest two songs I can find just to make it more miserable for you.

You might just win the round!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2021, 07:35:29 PM
Lot of bitching going on, but I'm the one that gets stuck listening to three fucking hours of Neal Morse for six days straight. :lol

I'm gonna need a reverse exorcism.

I might send the shittiest two songs I can find just to make it more miserable for you.

You might just win the round!

This is true.  :justjen
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 08:13:24 PM
Lot of bitching going on, but I'm the one that gets stuck listening to three fucking hours of Neal Morse for six days straight. :lol

I'm gonna need a reverse exorcism.

I might send the shittiest two songs I can find just to make it more miserable for you.

You might just win the round!

This is true.  :justjen


Of course, you might want to ask Lonestar how sending the two shittiest songs each round is working out for him.. :lol








(https://c.tenor.com/7j3cvrEv18gAAAAC/burn-snaps.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 08:34:47 PM
I did hear from Stadler and he'll send tomorrow. But he sent this along...

(https://i.imgflip.com/5uv993.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 19, 2021, 08:39:13 PM
I did hear from Stadler and he'll send tomorrow. But he sent this along...

(https://i.imgflip.com/5uv993.jpg)

Fifty million feet of earth actually.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 19, 2021, 08:43:43 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/qMcJsKmM/Zombo-Meme-19112021224249.jpg) (https://postimages.org/) (https://thesawmillgrill.com/)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 08:45:00 PM
 :lol

He actually has a legit reason, but we can still call him Stacul. ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on November 19, 2021, 09:50:01 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/y7Jwhsd.jpg)

OMG, if this is Neal playing “The Devil”. :rollin

So glad I got my submissions in early, btw. Are we in the beginning of the BTBAM round now? I’ve been stuck at home with COVID since Tuesday, and I tell you what, I was a little unsure if I was going to be Britain or France in the spring of 1940 for a hot minute there.  Thankfully, I’ve been able to avoid the hospital and, while I’m not out of the woods yet, I can see the clearing.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 19, 2021, 11:07:04 PM
I did hear from Stadler and he'll send tomorrow. But he sent this along...

(https://i.imgflip.com/5uv993.jpg)

Fifty million feet of earth actually.
There it is! :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 20, 2021, 12:13:30 AM
I really don't want to listen to any fucking Neal Morse.  Someone tell me what to send.

I'll tell you want to send if you tell me what to send for Mastodon.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2021, 12:16:45 AM
I really don't want to listen to any fucking Neal Morse.  Someone tell me what to send.

I'll tell you want to send if you tell me what to send for Mastodon.

There's a very good chance I'll drag you down with me though.

Deal.  I'll tell you what I'm sending for the Mastodon round.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 20, 2021, 12:31:11 AM
Lot of bitching going on, but I'm the one that gets stuck listening to three fucking hours of Neal Morse for six days straight. :lol
I think I was pretty clear that my comments were intended precisely to help you, by making it easier for people to pick songs they think you'll like. :lol

I've got three songs I'm happy to send that are all Neal, so I'm fine either way. :P
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 20, 2021, 03:50:28 AM
I used the term “bitching” affectionately.  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2021, 04:20:23 AM
We all do.  Like 'Tim is a bitch.' See all love.  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 20, 2021, 05:04:55 AM
Can’t say this has ever worked with The Lovely Mrs TAC.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 20, 2021, 05:13:50 AM
:rollin
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2021, 05:28:27 AM
Can’t say this has ever worked with The Lovely Mrs TAC.  :lol

Balls for even attempting!  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 20, 2021, 08:22:11 AM
So glad I got my submissions in early, btw. Are we in the beginning of the BTBAM round now? I’ve been stuck at home with COVID since Tuesday, and I tell you what, I was a little unsure if I was going to be Britain or France in the spring of 1940 for a hot minute there.  Thankfully, I’ve been able to avoid the hospital and, while I’m not out of the woods yet, I can see the clearing.

Yikes! Glad you’re on the upswing and avoided the hospital.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 20, 2021, 08:22:39 AM
I did hear from Stadler and he'll send tomorrow. But he sent this along...

(https://i.imgflip.com/5uv993.jpg)

Fifty million feet of earth actually.
There it is! :metal

 :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on November 20, 2021, 11:21:02 AM
So glad I got my submissions in early, btw. Are we in the beginning of the BTBAM round now? I’ve been stuck at home with COVID since Tuesday, and I tell you what, I was a little unsure if I was going to be Britain or France in the spring of 1940 for a hot minute there.  Thankfully, I’ve been able to avoid the hospital and, while I’m not out of the woods yet, I can see the clearing.

Yikes! Glad you’re on the upswing and avoided the hospital.

Thanks!  I think the hardest part is the quarantine.  It sucks being able to only talk to my family via FaceTime.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 20, 2021, 12:03:56 PM
We all do.  Like 'Tim is a bitch.' See all love.  ;D

On my way home from work today, I got behind a car that had a bumper sticker that read "You say BITCH like it's a bad thing" and it made me think of this thread.





So glad I got my submissions in early, btw. Are we in the beginning of the BTBAM round now? I’ve been stuck at home with COVID since Tuesday, and I tell you what, I was a little unsure if I was going to be Britain or France in the spring of 1940 for a hot minute there.  Thankfully, I’ve been able to avoid the hospital and, while I’m not out of the woods yet, I can see the clearing.

Holy shit Aaron, I missed this this morning. Glad you're at least feeling better.
Did you get vaccinated? Er..you can keep that private if you wish, but I was just wondering if it was a breakthrough case or not.



And yes, the BTBAM round has started.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 20, 2021, 03:38:36 PM
OK...so a weekend update.


Right now, the playlist is 20 songs @2h53m.

Stadler had something very important come up over the last couple of days. He texted me yesterday so I'll get his songs when I get them. Hopefully that will be tomorrow, and then I can post stats and First Impressions.



I was doing a BTBAM deep dive and I was up to TGM when the new DT came out. I'll be honest. I was struggling through it. So I figured I'd have a BTBAM round so I wouldn't have to finish. :lol

I can get through harsh vocals, but BTBAM's harsh vocals are fucking painful to listen to. I can't find anything pleasurable about them.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 20, 2021, 03:46:18 PM
you seem to be okay with death metal growls and indifferent to black metal rasps but metalcore vocals are like, different from that and i'll freely admit they're one of my least favorites too, a lot of the time they just sound like heavy static to me
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on November 20, 2021, 04:00:45 PM
We all do.  Like 'Tim is a bitch.' See all love.  ;D

On my way home from work today, I got behind a car that had a bumper sticker that read "You say BITCH like it's a bad thing" and it made me think of this thread.





So glad I got my submissions in early, btw. Are we in the beginning of the BTBAM round now? I’ve been stuck at home with COVID since Tuesday, and I tell you what, I was a little unsure if I was going to be Britain or France in the spring of 1940 for a hot minute there.  Thankfully, I’ve been able to avoid the hospital and, while I’m not out of the woods yet, I can see the clearing.

Holy shit Aaron, I missed this this morning. Glad you're at least feeling better.
Did you get vaccinated? Er..you can keep that private if you wish, but I was just wondering if it was a breakthrough case or not.



And yes, the BTBAM round has started.

Yep.  Fully vaccinated plus I had gotten the booster on Saturday.  Definitely a breakthrough case.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 20, 2021, 04:02:32 PM
Wow..scary. Any idea where you caught it?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 20, 2021, 04:04:32 PM
you seem to be okay with death metal growls and indifferent to black metal rasps but metalcore vocals are like, different from that and i'll freely admit they're one of my least favorites too, a lot of the time they just sound like heavy static to me

It's hard to quantify what harsh vocals I like, but I suppose it's the same for clean vocals right?

Unfortunately, the harsh vocals in BTBAM are not usually backed up with anything really musical. It's usually on top of..harsh music.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 20, 2021, 05:47:05 PM
I'm hearing a lot of Michael Schenker in these tunes. Has their guitarist cited him as an influence?

5:14 of Bad Habits could've come right off of Assault Attack.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 20, 2021, 06:32:55 PM
I'm hearing a lot of Michael Schenker in these tunes. Has their guitarist cited him as an influence?

5:14 of Bad Habits could've come right off of Assault Attack.
Now I'm going to have to go back and listen to Bad Habits and listen for the similarities...
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 20, 2021, 06:34:44 PM
I'm hearing a lot of Michael Schenker in these tunes. Has their guitarist cited him as an influence?

5:14 of Bad Habits could've come right off of Assault Attack.
Now I'm going to have to go back and listen to Bad Habits and listen for the similarities...

I've heard it in a number of songs. I posted that before Bad Habits came on, and that part really jumped out at me.

In fact, my First Impression of another song mentions Schenker.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 20, 2021, 06:46:26 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if Paul and Dustie were influenced by Michael Schenker. The bands influences are diverse and massive.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 20, 2021, 06:49:40 PM
I'm starting to think I should have sent The Future is Behind Us... :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 20, 2021, 06:51:24 PM
I'm starting to think I should have sent The Future is Behind Us... :corn

The deadline for submissions is behind us. :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on November 20, 2021, 07:26:15 PM
Wow..scary. Any idea where you caught it?

Not sure, so I’ll just say, “trying to find a Neal Morse submission.”   ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 20, 2021, 07:32:42 PM
Wow..scary. Any idea where you caught it?

Not sure, so I’ll just say, “trying to find a Neal Morse submission.”   ;D

A risky venture, I'm sure. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 20, 2021, 09:48:05 PM
Well, I found my BTBAM submissions on YouTube and checked them out. Sadly, I don't think I would grade them too highly if they were sent to me. Oh well. Already shaking up the remaining rounds since I'm pretty sure this will be my worst round yet.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 20, 2021, 10:25:36 PM
The Future Is Behind Us kinda sucks tbh.

I was considering sending Bad Habits. That song growed on me like hell and now it's my favorite from Colors II.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 21, 2021, 08:37:37 AM
So.. what songs were sent? :)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 09:32:25 AM
@J-Boy!!!!

Stadler is unavailable for this round and he has specifically requested that YOU pick his songs for this round. 
Pick two songs from 2012 on.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 21, 2021, 09:34:47 AM
Chad, I can roll the dice for you if needed. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 21, 2021, 10:01:06 AM
I can give some really good suggestions if you need :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 21, 2021, 10:09:30 AM
@J-Boy!!!!

Stadler is unavailable for this round and he has specifically requested that YOU pick his songs for this round. 
Pick two songs from 2012 on.

...or, send nothing. Stads might get the best score this round with a submission of nothing.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 21, 2021, 10:18:46 AM
@J-Boy!!!!

Stadler is unavailable for this round and he has specifically requested that YOU pick his songs for this round. 
Pick two songs from 2012 on.

Oh dear lord. I think I’ve heard one BTBAM song in my life, likely because someone submitted it to me in a roulette .... and I’m pretty sure it scored badly.

This is gonna be random af, but I’ll find a method other than dice rolling.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 21, 2021, 10:22:58 AM
@J-Boy!!!!

Stadler is unavailable for this round and he has specifically requested that YOU pick his songs for this round. 
Pick two songs from 2012 on.

Oh dear lord. I think I’ve heard one BTBAM song in my life, likely because someone submitted it to me in a roulette .... and I’m pretty sure it scored badly.

This is gonna be random af, but I’ll find a method other than dice rolling.

Actually, I submitted it, and it scored fairly well.

Here's your write up...
"While I'm quite certain this band would NEVER click with me, you picked a pretty enjoyable tune - that got better as the week went on.  As a melancholic ballad, it wasn’t anything that absolutely wow'd me, but it certainly wasn't cringe-worthy like I'd been expecting"




And then I fucked everything up and sent you Babymetal.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 21, 2021, 10:38:42 AM
@J-Boy!!!!

Stadler is unavailable for this round and he has specifically requested that YOU pick his songs for this round. 
Pick two songs from 2012 on.

Oh dear lord. I think I’ve heard one BTBAM song in my life, likely because someone submitted it to me in a roulette .... and I’m pretty sure it scored badly.

This is gonna be random af, but I’ll find a method other than dice rolling.

Actually, I submitted it, and it scored fairly well.

Yeah, I just pulled out my ratings file, and you gave me Desert of Song in my 4th roulette.  It rated right in the middle of the pack.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 21, 2021, 10:55:03 AM
Stadler has submitted.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 21, 2021, 10:57:33 AM
Stadler has submitted.
Woohoo! Let the games begin! :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 21, 2021, 11:02:47 AM
:dangerwillrobinson:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 12:17:25 PM
The bad news... I have Stadler's songs via Dr. Cha.
The good news...both repeats!! Yay..no more songs.

Stats and First Impressions up later. Just got home from work..
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 21, 2021, 12:40:37 PM
The bad news... I have Stadler's songs via Dr. Cha.
The good news...both repeats!! Yay..no more songs.

Stats and First Impressions up later. Just got home from work..
Working on a Sunday......that's the real bad news
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 12:45:48 PM
The bad news... I have Stadler's songs via Dr. Cha.
The good news...both repeats!! Yay..no more songs.

Stats and First Impressions up later. Just got home from work..
Working on a Sunday......that's the real bad news

Time and a half to do something extremely easy. Good news!!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 21, 2021, 02:12:11 PM
The bad news... I have Stadler's songs via Dr. Cha.
The good news...both repeats!! Yay..no more songs.

Stats and First Impressions up later. Just got home from work..
Working on a Sunday......that's the real bad news

Time and a half to do something extremely easy. Good news!!
Touché
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 21, 2021, 02:23:49 PM
The good news...both repeats!! Yay..no more songs.

Unsurprising, since there was only like 50 songs to work with.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 02:46:19 PM
Stats!

20 songs @ 2h53m
Although I heard recently that there was only like 50 songs to work with


Album breakdown

Colors II...5 songs
Paralax II...4
Automata I...3
Automata II...2
Coma Eliptic...4
Paralax I...2

The most sent song was:

Astral Body..4 times
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 21, 2021, 02:55:52 PM
I did not send Astral Body :)

Let’s guess some songs that were sent:

Specular Reflection
Augment of Rebirth
Astral Body
Lay Your Ghosts to Rest
Telos
Silent Flight Parliament
The Coma Machine
King Redeem / Queen Serene
The Ectopic Stroll
Memory Palace
Condemned to the Gallows
Yellow Eyes
Blot
Voice of Trespass
The Grid

And 5 songs from Colors II
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2021, 03:04:51 PM
Astral Body was never on the shortlist for me.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 03:07:23 PM
Here are the songs..


Astral Body
Lay Your Ghosts To Rest
Voice Of Trespass
Memory Palace
Fix The Error
Condemned To The Gallows
The Coma Machine
Revolution In Limbo
Blot
Millions
Monochrome
Never Seen/Future Shock
Silent Flight Parliament
Bad Habits
The Proverbial Bellow
Turn On The Darkness
King Redeem/Queen Serene
Specular Reflection
Lunar Wilderness
Extremophile Elite


Here is the playlist..
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7KWeepvy2A3yeyiGgEZmmF?si=4d055c8edea24067
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 03:07:46 PM
FIRST Impressions..

I'll leave these open for a bit if anyone wants to guess, but since half of the participants don't even know their own songs, I'll solve it before I go to bed tonight.

It's really hard to make different first impressions when every song is Fast heavy part-harsh vocals-slow part-clean vocals-harsh-clean-heavy part-ending.





The harsh vocal sections in this song are awful.

I love the large amount of clean vocals in this song.

This song is fucked up, which I know could also be said for any other track in the playlist.

One of the leaders in the clubhouse.

Starts out pleasant and goes downhill from there.

A short song with clean vocals.  Doesn’t go anywhere though.

Interesting song that I can’t even link to the early BTBAM that I have heard.

Really nice song with bits that don’t hit you over the head.

The cleans in this were excellent. Fantastic ending.

I couldn’t wait for this to end. That is, until I got to the ending.

Well, that was extremely musical.

Musically this is amazing.

I hear a lot of Dream Theater in this.

This goes from Megadeth to Moby Dick to Helloween..and that’s just the first three minutes.

That was a lot to chew on.

I have no idea what I just heard.

This reminds me of Riot’s Privilege Of Power and then goes all Hot For Teacher

I liked this. I couldn’t tell you what I just heard, but I liked it.

Has some older elements to it.

The part right before the actual ending is Schenkeriffic!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 21, 2021, 03:12:07 PM
Wow, I have no idea based on those impressions. Cool playlist :tup (I wasn't too far off!)

You missed Astral Body and Lay Your Ghosts to Rest in the songs sent list :)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 21, 2021, 03:13:39 PM

Really nice song with bits that don’t hit you over the head.

I hear a lot of Dream Theater in this.


These two were generally what I thought when listening to my entries, so I’m guessing these.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2021, 03:17:14 PM
I'm intrigued to find out which songs reminds you of POP.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 21, 2021, 03:21:31 PM
I'm intrigued to find out which songs reminds you of POP.
I'm wondering if it's Voice of Trespass
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 03:21:44 PM
Wow, I have no idea based on those impressions. Cool playlist :tup (I wasn't too far off!)

You missed Astral Body and Lay Your Ghosts to Rest in the songs sent list :)

Fixed!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 03:24:17 PM

Lay Your Ghosts To Rest
Memory Palace
Fix The Error
Condemned To The Gallows
The Coma Machine
Revolution In Limbo
Monochrome
Never Seen/Future Shock
Silent Flight Parliament
Bad Habits
The Proverbial Bellow
Turn On The Darkness
King Redeem/Queen Serene
Specular Reflection
Lunar Wilderness
Extremophile Elite





The harsh vocal sections in this song are awful.

I love the large amount of clean vocals in this song.

This song is fucked up, which I know could also be said for any other track in the playlist.

One of the leaders in the clubhouse.

Starts out pleasant and goes downhill from there.

A short song with clean vocals.  Doesn’t go anywhere though.[Millions]

Interesting song that I can’t even link to the early BTBAM that I have heard.

Really nice song with bits that don’t hit you over the head.

The cleans in this were excellent. Fantastic ending.

I couldn’t wait for this to end. That is, until I got to the ending.

Well, that was extremely musical.

Musically this is amazing.

I hear a lot of Dream Theater in this.

This goes from Megadeth to Moby Dick to Helloween..and that’s just the first three minutes.

That was a lot to chew on.[Blot]

I have no idea what I just heard.

This reminds me of Riot’s Privilege Of Power and then goes all Hot For Teacher[Voice Of Trespass]

I liked this. I couldn’t tell you what I just heard, but I liked it.

Has some older elements to it.[Astral Body]

The part right before the actual ending is Schenkeriffic!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 03:24:45 PM
I'm intrigued to find out which songs reminds you of POP.
I'm wondering if it's Voice of Trespass

YES!



Really nice song with bits that don’t hit you over the head.

I hear a lot of Dream Theater in this.


These two were generally what I thought when listening to my entries, so I’m guessing these.

No..
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2021, 03:34:39 PM
Yeah, I can see that.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 03:36:13 PM
Just in the beginning with the horns. It hit me right away. Then it's basically Hot For Teacher after that.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2021, 03:38:29 PM
Yeah fair play mate.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 21, 2021, 03:39:05 PM


Really nice song with bits that don’t hit you over the head.

I hear a lot of Dream Theater in this.


These two were generally what I thought when listening to my entries, so I’m guessing these.

No..

Hmmm. Well, I’d probably have to actually listen to them again to really figure this out.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 21, 2021, 03:39:15 PM
You've basically heard their entire discography at this point. :lol

Which songs were only sent once?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 03:49:49 PM
Kingshmegland
The Coma Machine

Never Seen/Future Shock


HOF
Fix The Error

Bad Habits


Cyril
Specular Reflection

Blot


Romdrums
Specular Reflection

Turn On The Darkness


LudwigVan
Astral Body

Condemned To the Gallows


Lonestar
King Redeem/Queen Serene

Voice Of Trespass


Puppies
The Proverbial Bellow

Bad Habits


Professor
Monochrome

Millions


425
Lunar Wilderness

Lay Your Ghosts To Rest


Kwyjibo
The Coma Machine

Condemned To The Gallows


Wolfking
Specular Reflection

Lunar Wilderness


Ariich
Lay Your Ghosts To Rest

Silent Flight Parliament


Evermind
Astral Body

Revolution In Limbo


Vmadera
Extremophile Elite

Fix The Error


Elite
Lay Your Ghosts To Rest

Voice Of Trespass


Buddy
Astral Body

Memory Palace

Stadler
Astral Body

Condemned To The Gallows
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 21, 2021, 04:05:59 PM
Spectacular Reflection  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 04:07:25 PM
Spectacular Reflection  :lol

 :rollin :rollin

 :facepalm:


People should not get their hopes up with that slip. ;D




My working Word document is a hot mess. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 21, 2021, 04:08:19 PM
Not sure how Stadler.boy ended up sending the gem that is Condemned to the Gallows, I was real close myself but only wanted to send one track from Automata and that had to be Voice of Trespass.

So Chadler, who did you get to pick two BTBAM tracks for you?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 04:10:42 PM
Not sure how Stadler.boy ended up sending the gem that is Condemned to the Gallows, I was real close myself but only wanted to send one track from Automata and that had to be Voice of Trespass.

So Chadler, who did you get to pick two BTBAM tracks for you?

This is how..

The 30th most listened to BTBAM song on last.fm is Astral Body (because Bill has 30k+ posts) -

The other song that screams "Stadler" to me is Condemned to the Gallows, as sometimes I would want to hang myself after reading a Stadler post

 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 21, 2021, 04:12:22 PM
 :rollin
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 21, 2021, 04:17:11 PM
Spectacular Reflection  :lol
:rollin :rollin

 :facepalm:

People should not get their hopes up with that slip. ;D
i suspect you will hate the first few minutes of the song but then be relatively okay with the rest and willing to bank on those first few minutes not being enough to tank the score  :corn
i probably would've sent something from colors II instead if i were submitting right now tho, but i hadn't got my CD copy yet and only started really spinning it the last week or so
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 04:18:33 PM
To be fair, I pretty much hate the first few minutes of every song. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 21, 2021, 04:23:34 PM
Neal Morse is going to be sweet relief after this round.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 21, 2021, 04:24:07 PM
i think i'd have a hard time guessing any of the impressions this time around because a whole lot of later era BTBAM really blends together in my mind with very few songs i actually remember a year down the line

blot is like, the one song from their 2010's output i find notably memorable and it's also much less heavy and more melodic than usual so i'd hooooope it does well, but, who knows  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 21, 2021, 04:24:16 PM
A short song with clean vocals.  Doesn’t go anywhere though.

I think this is one of mine as I had a similar thought the first time I actually heard it. Don't remember which one as I struggle to remember the names of them. They are the 'M' songs is about all I remember.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 21, 2021, 04:25:13 PM
Damn, Stadler got some pretty good songs there :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 21, 2021, 04:27:00 PM
A short song with clean vocals.  Doesn’t go anywhere though.

I think this is one of mine as I had a similar thought the first time I actually heard it. Don't remember which one as I struggle to remember the names of them. They are the 'M' songs is about all I remember.
oh yeah that's probably Millions
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 04:27:21 PM
A short song with clean vocals.  Doesn’t go anywhere though.

I think this is one of mine as I had a similar thought the first time I actually heard it. Don't remember which one as I struggle to remember the names of them. They are the 'M' songs is about all I remember.

Yes..Millions



blot is like, the one song from their 2010's output i find notably memorable and it's also much less heavy and more melodic than usual so i'd hooooope it does well, but, who knows  :corn

I gave it to you..
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2021, 04:36:46 PM
Spectacular Reflection  :lol
:rollin :rollin

 :facepalm:

People should not get their hopes up with that slip. ;D
i suspect you will hate the first few minutes of the song but then be relatively okay with the rest and willing to bank on those first few minutes not being enough to tank the score  :corn
i probably would've sent something from colors II instead if i were submitting right now tho, but i hadn't got my CD copy yet and only started really spinning it the last week or so

What Re you talking about, the first few minutes us the best part of the song.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 21, 2021, 04:45:09 PM
Tim, you ok? :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 21, 2021, 05:00:36 PM
Spectacular Reflection  :lol
:rollin :rollin

 :facepalm:

People should not get their hopes up with that slip. ;D
i suspect you will hate the first few minutes of the song but then be relatively okay with the rest and willing to bank on those first few minutes not being enough to tank the score  :corn
i probably would've sent something from colors II instead if i were submitting right now tho, but i hadn't got my CD copy yet and only started really spinning it the last week or so

What Re you talking about, the first few minutes us the best part of the song.
yeah but TAC hates The Heavy Stuff™ from BTBAM
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2021, 05:07:43 PM
I think its a safe bet that BTBAM isn't a band he's going to become a fan of.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 21, 2021, 05:10:19 PM
I take it as a modestly good sign that one of my songs was also an ariich submission.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 21, 2021, 05:14:16 PM
I take it as a modestly good sign that one of my songs was also an ariich submission.

like that's gonna help you :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 21, 2021, 05:16:13 PM
I'm hoping one Rich can drag me up more than the other drags me down.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 05:23:25 PM
Tim, you ok? :lol

I'm specular!


I take it as a modestly good sign that one of my songs was also an ariich submission.

like that's gonna help you :neverusethis:

You might want to think about it yourself. ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 21, 2021, 05:31:32 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/9F457mdQ/20211121192950.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 05:32:57 PM
 :rollin
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 05:39:25 PM
I was way off on my first impression to Astral Body. I don't know what I was thinking.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: LudwigVan on November 21, 2021, 06:15:14 PM
Not sure how Stadler.boy ended up sending the gem that is Condemned to the Gallows, I was real close myself but only wanted to send one track from Automata and that had to be Voice of Trespass.

So Chadler, who did you get to pick two BTBAM tracks for you?

This is how..

The 30th most listened to BTBAM song on last.fm is Astral Body (because Bill has 30k+ posts) -

The other song that screams "Stadler" to me is Condemned to the Gallows, as sometimes I would want to hang myself after reading a Stadler post

 :lol

I went through BTBAM hell to pick those two songs! Meanwhile Chad rolls a d12 for Stads.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 06:19:27 PM
Oh right..you guys have the same two songs. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2021, 06:43:58 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/9F457mdQ/20211121192950.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Outstanding!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 21, 2021, 06:45:24 PM
Not sure how Stadler.boy ended up sending the gem that is Condemned to the Gallows, I was real close myself but only wanted to send one track from Automata and that had to be Voice of Trespass.

So Chadler, who did you get to pick two BTBAM tracks for you?

This is how..

The 30th most listened to BTBAM song on last.fm is Astral Body (because Bill has 30k+ posts) -

The other song that screams "Stadler" to me is Condemned to the Gallows, as sometimes I would want to hang myself after reading a Stadler post

 :lol

I went through BTBAM hell to pick those two songs! Meanwhile Chad rolls a d12 for Stads.  :lol

I love both Tim and Bill, but I wasn’t about to go thru BTBAM hell for either of them.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: v_clortho on November 21, 2021, 06:45:56 PM
Someone should have sent their cover of The Dear Hunter's "The Tank".
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 06:54:35 PM
First Impressions....solved.


I love the large amount of clean vocals in this song. [The Proverbial Bellow]

This song is fucked up, which I know could also be said for any other track in the playlist.[King Redeem/Queen Serene]

One of the leaders in the clubhouse.[Bad Habits]

Starts out pleasant and goes downhill from there.[Monochrome]

A short song with clean vocals.  Doesn’t go anywhere though.[Millions]

Interesting song that I can’t even link to the early BTBAM that I have heard.[The Coma Machine]

Really nice song with bits that don’t hit you over the head.[Condemned To The Gallows]

The cleans in this were excellent. Fantastic ending.[Specular Reflection]

I couldn’t wait for this to end. That is, until I got to the ending.
[Lunar Wilderness]

Well, that was extremely musical.[Silent Flight Parliament]

Has some older elements to it.[Astral Body]

Musically this is amazing.[Revolution In Limbo]

I hear a lot of Dream Theater in this.[Extremophile Elite]

This goes from Megadeth to Moby Dick to Helloween..and that’s just the first three minutes.[Fix The Error]

That was a lot to chew on.[Blot]

I have no idea what I just heard.[Lay Your Ghosts To Rest]

This reminds me of Riot’s Privilege Of Power and then goes all Hot For Teacher[Voice Of Trespass]

I liked this. I couldn’t tell you what I just heard, but I liked it.[Turn On The Darkness]

The harsh vocal sections in this song are awful.[Never Seen/Future Shock]

The part right before the actual ending is Schenkeriffic![Memory Palace]
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 21, 2021, 06:57:42 PM
Alright! It's a race against me for last place in this round!

This is like golf, right? Lowest score wins?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 07:05:41 PM
Yeah, Prof...you're gonna have a tough round.. and I hate golf. :lol


Neal Morse is going to be sweet relief after this round.

I set it up that way purposely.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 21, 2021, 07:13:29 PM
Now I need to find 60+ minutes of Neal to send. Shouldn't be too hard.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 21, 2021, 07:13:46 PM
You missing one of my songs?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 21, 2021, 07:16:07 PM
Well that's kind of promising...I think lol

Tim, if you get a chance, watch the video for Fix the Error. I honestly think it adds to the song, plus there's a MP cameo in the video.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2q93v_nHmSM
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 07:20:00 PM
You missing one of my songs?

Fixed. I was trying to forget it, honestly. :lol


Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 21, 2021, 07:21:28 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 07:26:50 PM
Tim, if you get a chance, watch the video for Fix the Error. I honestly think it adds to the song, plus there's a MP cameo in the video.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2q93v_nHmSM

Hah! That video is awesome!  :lol
Are the guest drummers on the record, or are they just playing the parts in the video?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 21, 2021, 07:34:23 PM
Tim, if you get a chance, watch the video for Fix the Error. I honestly think it adds to the song, plus there's a MP cameo in the video.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2q93v_nHmSM

Hah! That video is awesome!  :lol
Are the guest drummers on the record, or are they just playing the parts in the video?
The guest drummers actually played those parts on the record.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2021, 07:37:17 PM
That's cool. Who are the other guys? Are they in this roulette too? :D

That part is awesome!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 21, 2021, 08:11:15 PM
So it is MP, Navene Koperweis, Ken Schalk and Blake Richardson.

I only know Navene from Animals as Leaders. Never heard of ken. Blake is the drummer for BTTBAM.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 21, 2021, 09:43:10 PM
Me listening to Neal Morse trying to find songs to send...

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/ddEl1Ey8A58OI/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 21, 2021, 11:38:33 PM
Well, that was extremely musical.[Silent Flight Parliament]

I have no idea what I just heard.[Lay Your Ghosts To Rest]
One of these is more encouraging than the other! :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 21, 2021, 11:41:47 PM
Truth be told, I had no idea what I heard when I first listened to Lay Your Ghosts to Rest
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 22, 2021, 01:39:43 AM
Truth be told, I had no idea what I heard when I first listened to Lay Your Ghosts to Rest
I dunno, I don't think it's any crazier than basically all their other songs. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 22, 2021, 03:38:50 AM
Truth be told, I had no idea what I heard when I first listened to Lay Your Ghosts to Rest
I dunno, I don't think it's any crazier than basically all their other songs. :lol

It’s tough to cold- listen to 20 BTBAM songs in a row. My ears were glazing over at points. The harsh vocals are so bad it was at times tough to differentiate the music underneath. Subsequent listens have helped clear it up though. It was the same way with a bunch of the Haken tunes.






Well, that was extremely musical.[Silent Flight Parliament]

I have no idea what I just heard.[Lay Your Ghosts To Rest]
One of these is more encouraging than the other! :lol

Well, they’re not getting the same score, so…yes.  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 22, 2021, 03:47:24 AM
Truth be told, I had no idea what I heard when I first listened to Lay Your Ghosts to Rest
I dunno, I don't think it's any crazier than basically all their other songs. :lol

Well, Parallax came out in a time that I wasn't really that interested in yet another BTBAM album, because they're so dense and I was looking for other stuff in music back then I guess. I remember that specifically during Lay Your Ghosts to Rest that I just zoned out and turned it off. I couldn't handle it at that point, despite loving Colors for example. That first experience with Parallax led me to not listening to it in full until years later. Coma Ecliptic did the same, but I did finish that one. The Automata albums pulled me back in to BTBAM and it was that year that I actually finished Parallax II for the first time :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 22, 2021, 10:11:16 AM
parallax II was the first BTBAM album where i felt like they kinda lost the plot a little and put emphasis on being overly complicated and progressive over actually writing compelling songs
this has kinda been the story of their albums since then really but i've liked automata and colors II more than parallax II and coma at the very least
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 22, 2021, 10:24:34 AM
Parallax II is definitely my favorite of the post-TGM albums, but it certainly doesn't reach the heights of the two albums that came before it.

The Automatas are their lowest point since then, imo. Automata I was fine but very un-impactful and Automata II barely even feels like an album. Voice Of Trespass is just Bad Devil but worse (let's see if Tim disagrees :lol) and The Grid sucks as a closer.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on November 22, 2021, 10:28:50 AM
parallax II was the first BTBAM album where i felt like they kinda lost the plot a little and put emphasis on being overly complicated and progressive over actually writing compelling songs
this has kinda been the story of their albums since then really but i've liked automata and colors II more than parallax II and coma at the very least

See, I’m the exact opposite.  Parallax is where I think they finally figured out how to make all the wankery compelling, and able to serve a purpose rather than being there for its own sake.  Coma Ecliptic is an even further refinement of that idea.  With Automata and now Colors II, I think they’re just tweaking the formula. 
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 22, 2021, 11:13:09 AM
parallax II was the first BTBAM album where i felt like they kinda lost the plot a little and put emphasis on being overly complicated and progressive over actually writing compelling songs
this has kinda been the story of their albums since then really but i've liked automata and colors II more than parallax II and coma at the very least

See, I’m the exact opposite.  Parallax is where I think they finally figured out how to make all the wankery compelling, and able to serve a purpose rather than being there for its own sake. 
Yes, this exactly. Parallax II is ridiculously great.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 22, 2021, 11:23:57 AM
Maybe I'm alone in that but I was underwhelmed by it  :lol

Even moreso underwhelmed by Coma though, which I have just never found very interesting or memorable
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 22, 2021, 12:27:29 PM
Interesting to read through the discussion. :tup


I'm like 3 listens through the songs. Gonna start roughing out some writeups this afternoon. If I am efficient, I'm shooting for results before the Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 22, 2021, 01:18:21 PM
is that this weekend?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 22, 2021, 01:23:37 PM
it is in three days
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 22, 2021, 01:24:35 PM
is that this weekend?

This coming Thursday.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 22, 2021, 01:27:14 PM
it is in three days

brace yourselves
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 22, 2021, 01:28:39 PM
I know something I will not be thankful for.

The BTBAM results.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 22, 2021, 01:38:03 PM
I know something I will not be thankful for.

The BTBAM results.

But they'll home hand-in-hand with the Neal Morse round!

...which I'll be even less thankful for! :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 22, 2021, 02:25:10 PM
I've enjoyed everything pst Colors for the most part, although I couldn't get into Automata at all, that just is missing something for me.

Coma Ecliptic was a huge grower and I love it now.  Parallax is amazing and probably my second favourite after Colors.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 22, 2021, 04:28:04 PM
Got 7 writeups done this afternoon!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 22, 2021, 06:28:41 PM
Got 7 writeups done this afternoon!
You really want this round to be over!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 22, 2021, 06:52:26 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 22, 2021, 08:03:01 PM
Got 7 writeups done this afternoon!
You really want this round to be over!  :biggrin:


:neverusethis:




Well, I scratched out 16 of the 20 writeups. I have 4 songs left, but it's almost 45 minutes of music, and I don't have that in me tonight. So we're on pace for Wednesday for sure.

These songs take a bit to break down. Kind of tough in a roulette round, but I really enjoyed pretty much most of what I heard today. It was kind of the same with Haken when I was doing writeups. It was like the clouds started to part a bit.




Hey, speaking of Haken, it seems their keyboardist left the band after my roulette round. Good. He was easily my least favorite part of their sound. Nothing against keyboardists...of course. ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 22, 2021, 08:27:09 PM
Hey, speaking of Haken, it seems their keyboardist left the band after my roulette round. Good. He was easily my least favorite part of their sound. Nothing against keyboardists...of course. ;D
You mean Diego? Nah, he left last year.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: LudwigVan on November 22, 2021, 11:52:35 PM
Neal Morse is going to be sweet relief after this round.

After BTBAM, it'll be like diving into a cloying vat of maple syrup.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 23, 2021, 03:10:07 AM
Hey, speaking of Haken, it seems their keyboardist left the band after my roulette round. Good. He was easily my least favorite part of their sound. Nothing against keyboardists...of course. ;D
You mean Diego? Nah, he left last year.

Oh. Seemed like fresh news in the Haken thread.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 23, 2021, 04:42:25 AM
Legalities took a year it seemed. But most knew he already left.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 23, 2021, 04:47:57 AM
Oh ok. WTF would take so long?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 23, 2021, 05:20:24 AM
Honestly don't know why.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 23, 2021, 05:40:02 AM
Honestly don't know why.

I thought you followed Twitter.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 23, 2021, 05:46:55 AM
Right but they never came out and said he was gone until yesterday but you saw in socal media that he separated himself not posting about the band.

Add that he wasn't prominent on their last album.  Rich, hinted it was legal which made sense.

We just had to piece it together. 
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lowdz on November 23, 2021, 06:35:54 AM
I'm hearing a lot of Michael Schenker in these tunes. Has their guitarist cited him as an influence?

5:14 of Bad Habits could've come right off of Assault Attack.
Now I'm going to have to go back and listen to Bad Habits and listen for the similarities...

I've heard it in a number of songs. I posted that before Bad Habits came on, and that part really jumped out at me.

In fact, my First Impression of another song mentions Schenker.

I hear it. Enjoyed it too. The harsh vocals I could do without but they aren't the worst I've heard. At least I didn't turn it off!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 23, 2021, 02:02:18 PM
Lowdz! Good to see you in here!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 23, 2021, 02:06:45 PM
Well....

(https://news.crunchbase.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/giphy-26.gif)

I made it. Writeups are complete. I have to say, that was a chore to get through. Especially trying to finish it off today, even though the last four songs, for the most part, are some of the better tracks.

After I clean my ears, I'm going to spend the rest of the day dropping the needle verify my rankings and ultimately assigning scores.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lowdz on November 23, 2021, 02:10:01 PM
Lowdz! Good to see you in here!

I’d forgotten all about it bro. Did I miss anything? 😁😁
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 23, 2021, 03:39:14 PM
Lowdz! Good to see you in here!

I’d forgotten all about it bro. Did I miss anything? 😁😁

Certainly not this round.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 23, 2021, 03:48:24 PM
I'm actually looking forward to the next round. It's not Tim's lane so it will be interesting. 
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 23, 2021, 03:51:51 PM
I'm kind of looking forward to it too, honestly.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 23, 2021, 03:53:47 PM
This is non metal so what will you like about what is sent. That will give some insight to you.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 23, 2021, 03:57:01 PM
Tim, a little clarification on the Neal Morse round.  Only him singing or he sings the majority?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 23, 2021, 04:19:09 PM
Tim, a little clarification on the Neal Morse round.  Only him singing or he sings the majority?


So, I have been basically chastised talked down to 50%.  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 23, 2021, 04:23:12 PM
Got it. Really it will be better.  He shares a good amount of vocals.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 23, 2021, 04:28:21 PM
I'm just gonna roll dice anyways what does it matter to me
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: v_clortho on November 23, 2021, 07:20:03 PM
Did you ever check out Cockroach King? Or did I miss the reaction to that?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 23, 2021, 07:24:50 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ksSrxVv.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Rossults!
Post by: TAC on November 23, 2021, 07:31:19 PM
Did you ever check out Cockroach King? Or did I miss the reaction to that?

Yes...you missed it. ;D



I really think before the btbam we all need to get a first impression of Cockroach King.

(https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-25-2019/62egI1.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: v_clortho on November 23, 2021, 07:38:21 PM
Okay I just spent a few minutes looking. I take it you're not a fan.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 23, 2021, 07:42:42 PM
So...

Album rankings by scores..

Automata II
Paralax I
Coma Eliptica
Colors II
Paralax II
Automata I


We have a new person in first place and a new person in last place.



Results 2:30 PM Boston time tomorrow.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 23, 2021, 07:45:14 PM
Okay I just spent a few minutes looking. I take it you're not a fan.

So the Steam Powered Giraffes were sent to me in my second roulette. The song was a vocal masterpiece. I think it actually did OK. It was the first thing I thought of.


Am I a fan? I only listened once, and I thought it was kind of cool. I have a great Haken playlist from this roulette, and I will definitely give their albums a run through when this is over.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 23, 2021, 07:46:33 PM
Gonna get to the bottom of this roulette!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 23, 2021, 07:50:58 PM
Gonna get to the bottom of this roulette!

If that is your goal, you're gonna be disappointed with your score for this round.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 23, 2021, 07:52:56 PM
I'm gonna take Automata I being so low as a side-effect of Millions just being kinda meh more than anything  :P
expecting to stay right at the center of the pack so as to not be notable in any way
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 23, 2021, 07:54:31 PM
Your position has been noted.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 23, 2021, 07:54:47 PM
Gonna get to the bottom of this roulette!

If that is your goal, you're gonna be disappointed with your score for this round.

It would only be fitting if my best score of the roulette comes in this round.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 23, 2021, 07:56:51 PM
Gonna get to the bottom of this roulette!

If that is your goal, you're gonna be disappointed with your score for this round.

It would only be fitting if my best score of the roulette comes in this round.


That would indeed be funny. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 23, 2021, 08:14:20 PM
So...

Album rankings by scores..

Automata II
Paralax I
Coma Eliptica
Colors II
Automata I

No Parallax II? :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 23, 2021, 08:17:56 PM
So...

Album rankings by scores..

Automata II
Paralax I
Coma Eliptica
Colors II
Parallax II
Automata I

No Parallax II? :lol



FIXED!  My brain is FRIED!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 23, 2021, 08:22:23 PM
the music was too specular for you
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 23, 2021, 08:25:12 PM
The music has put him into a Coma Eliptica


Sent for Rounds 4 and 5, btw.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 23, 2021, 08:31:54 PM


We have a new person in first place and a new person in last place.



Results 2:30 PM Boston time tomorrow.

Yay me!

(Last place, that is)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 23, 2021, 08:36:56 PM

We have a new person in first place and a new person in last place.

(http://media1.giphy.com/media/6PDqnnPpJDIvm/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 23, 2021, 09:23:15 PM
So...

Album rankings by scores..

Automata II
Paralax I
Coma Eliptica
Colors II
Paralax II
Automata I


We have a new person in first place and a new person in last place.



Results 2:30 PM Boston time tomorrow.
As the soon to be old person in last place, this pleases me.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 23, 2021, 09:24:35 PM
If I remember correctly what albums mine came from, this looks like medium news for me.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2021, 10:10:41 PM
Not bad with Parallax 1 in second place.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 24, 2021, 10:46:51 AM
:soon:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: LudwigVan on November 24, 2021, 10:53:27 AM
So...

Album rankings by scores..

Automata II
Paralax I
Coma Eliptica
Colors II
Paralax II
Automata I


We have a new person in first place and a new person in last place.



Results 2:30 PM Boston time tomorrow.

Not looking too good for me  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 24, 2021, 12:05:40 PM
 :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 24, 2021, 12:30:08 PM
:corn
:corn :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 24, 2021, 12:36:17 PM
So...Between The Buried And Me..



I had started a deep dive on BTBAM before the new DT album came out. Honestly, I had kind of had enough anyway. I liked the energy of the first album, and I thought they stepped it up on Colors and The Great Misdirect.
The harsh vocals for this band are atrocious. They just do not agree with me. But the band can sometimes soften the blow if the music underneath is restrained or melodic. But those vocals couples with frantic instrumentation is just a wall of sound that is just not pleasurable.
The thing is, their singer has an amazing clean voice. If he did a Corey Taylor type thing where he had a band and sang clean, I'd be all over it.
I also want to say that the drumming in this band is incredible. Like..INCREDIBLE.

The First Impressions often had no relation to the songs after more listens. It really took a lot to break these songs down. A few times for some of the longer songs, I pulled up the lyrics just to help me with the arrangements. If you sent a longer song, and it didn't score well, it's likely for two reasons:
1. First, there just wasn't enough time for the songs to grow on me, and I admit that may be the case, and..
2. I didn't like it! ;D

So while Devin Townsend was a definite win, and Haken was a slight win, to me, BTBAM is more like a push. There's a handful of tracks here that I like, and I will swap out some of the lesser tracks and replace them with tracks from the earlier albums and keep the playlist.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 24, 2021, 12:36:30 PM
Five minutes late.

(https://c.tenor.com/WtuDf0sRV2AAAAAC/judge-judy-time.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 24, 2021, 12:37:18 PM
Between The Results And Me



Kingshmegland
The Coma Machine.....7.9

Interesting song that I can’t even link to early BTBAM that I have heard.

Tough to put my finger on the beginning. The dreamy section at 1:17 sets up the next section really well. Is it me, or do I hear CCR’s Up Around The Bend under the vocals?  The sections in this song all transition really well. This might be the easiest on the ears song in this round. Really pleasant.

Never Seen/Future Shock....7.8

The harsh vocal sections in this song are awful.

Ok, so the first two minutes feels like an intro with vocals. Too bad there are vocals though because the music is great underneath. I hear Michael Schenker right at 2:26. This next section is really nice with excellent clean vocals. The second half of the song is much more enjoyable. The chorus again at 10:24 is so nice. Great guitar underneath.
7.9+7.8=15.7/2=7.85



HOF
Fix The Error...8.1

This goes from Megadeth to Moby Dick to Helloween..and that’s just the first three minutes.

I love this song. This has a total Megadeth feel to it to start, and the drum solos are freaking awesome. I love the cowbell that keeps it continual. Right into a Helloween-ish section and solo. This song has a great pace that doesn’t hit you over the head with excessive playing.

Bad Habits...8.0

One of the leaders in the clubhouse.

I like the first couple of minutes musically. The ongoing lead guitar is cool.
I’m having trouble placing the guitar line at 2:09, but it sounds familiar somehow. Feels Schenkerish. 4:51 has a total Slayer feel briefly. I literally got goosebumps at 5:14. That is wicked Michael Schenker for 30 seconds straight off of Assault Attack. WOW! The songs ends really sweet.
8.1+8.0=16.1/2=8.05




Cyril
Specular Reflection...8.3

The cleans in this were excellent. Fantastic ending.

The beginning reminds me of the storm in Empire Of The Clouds.
A harsh section to start. I feel like it’s an initiation where that you have to go through to get to the good part of the song. But right at 1:38 with the syncopated section is awesome with fantastic drumming.
The harshies from 1:59-2:19 really do a good job of being right on the rhythm underneath. At 3:45 we hear that great clean vocal line for the first time. It really sticks. The harsh vocal section around 7:00 has song great playing underneath culminating in Anthrax style at 8:20. The next section is really cool. Gotta live through some more harshies until the payoff at 9:48.
I really like a lot of this song, might be my favorite clean vocal, even if it’s a repeated line.


Blot...7.6

That was a lot to chew on.

Has a  DT sounding intro. I don’t love the harshies in the opening verses. The clean chorus is nice though. I like the little bit at 5:22 that sets up the next section. Kind of mellow for a bit. I like the “I won’t remember me” part. Don’t love the harshies that follow, though the riffing is awesome.
8.3+7.6=15.9/2=7.95




Romdrums
Specular Reflection....8.3

The cleans in this were excellent. Fantastic ending.

The beginning reminds me of the storm in Empire Of The Clouds.
A harsh section to start. I feel like it’s an initiation where that you have to go through to get to the good part of the song. But right at 1:38 with the syncopated section is awesome with fantastic drumming.
The harshies from 1:59-2:19 really do a good job of being right on the rhythm underneath. At 3:45 we hear that great clean vocal line for the first time. It really sticks. The harsh vocal section around 7:00 has song great playing underneath culminating in Anthrax style at 8:20. The next section is really cool. Gotta live through some more harshies until the payoff at 9:48.
I really like a lot of this song, might be my favorite clean vocal, even if it’s a repeated line.


Turn On The Darkness...8.2

I liked this. I couldn’t tell you what I just heard, but I liked it.

Enjoying the opening. I really do like this guy’s clean voice. The harsh vocals are tolerable as the music isn’t as frantic underneath. This song feels a bit more direct. Reminds me a bit of Kansas a bit in the middle. The harshes later in the song are well supported by the music.
This is this round’s Deathless I think. Somewhat tame compared to the rest, but simply downright enjoyable.
8.3+8.2=16.5/2=8.25




LudwigVan
Astral Body....7.3

Has some older elements to it.

The intro to this is excellent. The harsh vocal really isn’t that bad, because the music underneath it doesn’t compete with it. The middle clean section is nice enough. I like the second harsh section less than the first. Did I miss an instrumental/solo section? This feels kind of incomplete. I see it’s the first track on the album, so it’s leading in to something else. As a stand alone song, it feels a bit short.
For the second round in a row, the most sent song feels kind of…disappointing.


Condemned To the Gallows...7.4

Really nice song with bits that don’t hit you over the head.

This is actually a decent song, but it is really unremarkable. There’s no part that really jumps out at me a differentiates itself. There’s really nothing I don’t like about it, but I just didn’t find it all that memorable.
7.3+7.4=14.7/2=7.35



Lonestar
King Redeem/Queen Serene...7.9

This song is fucked up, which I know could also be said for any other track in the playlist.

Wow, what a nice opening.  The harsh and cleans mixed together for a bit is interesting, but when the cleans separate at 3:07, I like that. Nice groove there. 4:30…Wow! 4:50..um..not wow. Really cool playing at 5:15. Great piano outro.
This song really grew on me. I wasn’t sure on first listen, but it became one of my favorites.


Voice Of Trespass..7.8

The reminds me of Riot’s Privilege Of Power and just when did David Lee Roth join BTBAM?

The horns at the beginning reminds me Riot’s Privilege Of Power. Sounds like Dave Mustaine in the beginning. I do like the feel of this. It is definitely different than anything else. Cool part at 4:22. I like the use of the bells after the “Wake Up”.  The “Comdemned To The Gallows part is great. The guitar underneath is really classy. This song starts off kind of hokey but ends epically.
7.9+7.8=15.7/2=7.85



Puppies
The Proverbial Bellow..8.5

I love the large amount of clean vocals in this song.

What a great two minutes plus intro! Wow! I like the use of the keyboards in the next section with nice clean vocals. Nice chorus at 4:55. 6:20 -7:00 is nails.  The song alternates between strong melodic passages with a smattering of harsh vocals separating the parts for effect. I hear some of Iron Maiden’s S-15 at 9:25. The guitar outro on this is amazing.


Bad Habits...8.0

One of the leaders in the clubhouse.

I like the first couple of minutes musically. The ongoing lead guitar is cool.
I’m having trouble placing the guitar line at 2:09, but it sounds familiar somehow. Feels Schenkerish. 4:51 has a total Slayer feel briefly. I literally got goosebumps at 5:14. That is wicked Michael Schenker for 30 seconds straight off of Assault Attack. WOW! The songs ends really sweet.
8.5+8.0=16.5/2=8.25



Professor
Monochrome....7.0

Starts out pleasant and goes downhill from there.

Starts off mellow for the first minute and the at 1:07 comes the best section of the song, which sounds like a slowed down version of Steve Miller’s Abracadabra. Unfortunately is a playlist of monsters, this really comes up short.

Millions...7.0

A short song with clean vocals.  Doesn’t go anywhere though.

Oddly, this song might have benefitted from having harsh vocals do the verse. The chorus is just fine as it is. The guitar at 2:28 is nice.
There’s not much else to say about this song. It’s just kind of there.
7.0+7.0=14/2=7.0



425
Lunar Wilderness...7.9

I couldn’t wait for this to end. That is, until I got to the ending.

The beginning of this reminds me a bit of Lock Vostock’s Expiry Date Of The Soul Of Man.  Vocal part is ..ugh. Classy solo at 2:17. Lots of fast playing harsh vocals for the next few minutes which is not pleasurable in any way. Badass riff at 5:10. A much needed ear cleansing begins around 6:20. The guitar underneath the cleans here at the end of the song is excellent.

Lay Your Ghosts To Rest...7.4

I have no idea what I just heard.

Jeez, jumps right in, doesn’t it? Once the first 90 seconds of hazing is complete, I like what’s going on. Kind of light hearted. The section at 2:30 is great. Nice vocals. I could do without the harsh vocal section that follows. It’s too fucking much. The vocals on top of the blast beats is simply a wall of sound that is practically unlistenable. 6:30 to the end of the song is outstanding.
Really struggled with what to do with this song. I liked everything except for the harsh vocal sections.
7.9+7.4=15.3/2=7.65
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 24, 2021, 12:37:37 PM
Kwyjibo
The Coma Machine....7.9

Interesting song that I can’t even link to early BTBAM that I have heard.

Tough to put my finger on the beginning. The dreamy section at 1:17 sets up the next section really well. Is it me, or do I hear CCR’s Up Around The Bend under the vocals?  The sections in this song all transition really well. This might be the easiest on the ears song in this round. Really pleasant.

Condemned To The Gallows....7.4

Really nice song with bits that don’t hit you over the head.

This is actually a decent song, but it is really unremarkable. There’s no part that really jumps out at me a differentiates itself. There’s really nothing I don’t like about it, but I just didn’t find it all that memorable.
7.9+7.4=15.3=7.65



Wolfking
Specular Reflection...8.3

The cleans in this were excellent. Fantastic ending.

The beginning reminds me of the storm in Empire Of The Clouds.
A harsh section to start. I feel like it’s an initiation where that you have to go through to get to the good part of the song. But right at 1:38 with the syncopated section is awesome with fantastic drumming.
The harshies from 1:59-2:19 really do a good job of being right on the rhythm underneath. At 3:45 we hear that great clean vocal line for the first time. It really sticks. The harsh vocal section around 7:00 has song great playing underneath culminating in Anthrax style at 8:20. The next section is really cool. Gotta live through some more harshies until the payoff at 9:48.
I really like a lot of this song, might be my favorite clean vocal, even if it’s a repeated line.


Lunar Wilderness....7.9

I couldn’t wait for this to end. That is, until I got to the ending.

The beginning of this reminds me a bit of Lock Vostock’s Expiry Date Of The Soul Of Man.  Vocal part is ..ugh. Classy solo at 2:17. Lots of fast playing harsh vocals for the next few minutes which is not pleasurable in any way. Badass riff at 5:10. A much needed ear cleansing begins around 6:20. The guitar underneath the cleans here at the end of the song is excellent.
8.3+7.9=16.2/2=8.10



Ariich
Lay Your Ghosts To Rest....7.4

I have no idea what I just heard.

Jeez, jumps right in, doesn’t it? Once the first 90 seconds of hazing is complete, I like what’s going on. Kind of light hearted. The section at 2:30 is great. Nice vocals. I could do without the harsh vocal section that follows. It’s too fucking much. The vocals on top of the blast beats is simply a wall of sound that is practically unlistenable. 6:30 to the end of the song is outstanding.
Really struggled with what to do with this song. I liked everything except for the harsh vocal sections.


Silent Flight Parliament....7.8

Well, that was extremely musical.

The minute and a half intro sounds promising. The harsh vocal section for the next few minutes is not good vocally, but there is some sick playing underneath, especially the drumming. A hectic part follows..tough to break down, really, but again, crazy ass playing. The section at 7:40 is a nice respite. The acoustic at 9:29 is a great touch. The clean vocal at 10:10. Cool instrumental section and the cleans that come after are excellent. Ooh Anneke! Er..what..what’s not Anneke..ok but they are interesting tio mix. Even the harsh vocals have a steady rhythm underneath which makes them more palatable. Grand ending that even those harshies at the end can’t ruin.
Overall, I really liked this. Great playing throughout. Not a fan of the harsh section early on. That was the only hurdle.
7.4+7.8=15.2/2=7.60



Evermind
Astral Body....7.3

Has some older elements to it.

The intro to this is excellent. The harsh vocal really isn’t that bad, because the music underneath it doesn’t compete with it. The middle clean section is nice enough. I like the second harsh section less than the first. Did I miss an instrumental/solo section? This feels kind of incomplete. I see it’s the first track on the album, so it’s leading in to something else. As a stand alone song, it feels a bit short.
For the second round in a row, the most sent song feels kind of…disappointing.


Revolution In Limbo....7.8

Musically this is amazing.

After its harsh opening, The clean “Over and Over” line is welcomed, as is the nice clean section that follows. I really like the music under the harshies at 4:28. The Bolero part is pretty decent, and the return of the clean chorus. Great guitar here towards the end. This would make a fantastic instrumental.
7.3-7.8=15.1/2=7.55



Vmadera
Extremophile Elite...7.8

I hear a lot of Dream Theater in this.

Musically, this is pretty crazy. I hear a lot of DT in this. Moment Of Betrayal at 3:00 for instance.  At the end of the day though, I don’t think I can give this a sufficient amount of listens to truly break this down. I like the “Surround Me’ part around 6:30 and the instrumental section that follows is excellent. I hear some Home when the vocals come back in.
I would really need to live with this one for a while. My reaction here is that it’s pretty good. Something that could grow over time. Time we just don’t have right now.


Fix The Error....8.1

This goes from Megadeth to Moby Dick to Helloween..and that’s just the first three minutes.

I love this song. This has a total Megadeth feel to it to start, and the drum solos are freaking awesome. I love the cowbell that keeps it continual. Right into a Helloween-ish section and solo. This song has a great pace that doesn’t hit you over the head with excessive playing.
7.8+8.1=15.9/2=7.95



Elite
Lay Your Ghosts To Rest....7.4

I have no idea what I just heard.

Jeez, jumps right in, doesn’t it? Once the first 90 seconds of hazing is complete, I like what’s going on. Kind of light hearted. The section at 2:30 is great. Nice vocals. I could do without the harsh vocal section that follows. It’s too fucking much. The vocals on top of the blast beats is simply a wall of sound that is practically unlistenable. 6:30 to the end of the song is outstanding.
Really struggled with what to do with this song. I liked every thing except for the harsh vocal sections.


Voice Of Trespass....7.8

The reminds me of Riot’s Privilege Of Power and just when did David Lee Roth join BTBAM?

The horns at the beginning reminds me Riot’s Privilege Of Power. Sounds like Dave Mustaine in the beginning. I do like the feel of this. It is definitely different than anything else. Cool part at 4:22. I like the use of the bells after the “Wake Up”.  The “Comdemned To The Gallows part is great. The guitar underneath is really classy. This song starts off kind of hokey but ends epically.
7.4+7.8=15.2/2=7.60



Buddy
Astral Body....7.3

Has some older elements to it.

The intro to this is excellent. The harsh vocal really isn’t that bad, because the music underneath it doesn’t compete with it. The middle clean section is nice enough. I like the second harsh section less than the first. Did I miss an instrumental/solo section? This feels kind of incomplete. I see it’s the first track on the album, so it’s leading in to something else. As a stand alone song, it feels a bit short.
For the second round in a row, the most sent song feels kind of…disappointing.

Memory Palace....8.2

The part right before the actual ending is Schenkeriffic!

Another 90 second intro that is really inviting. I like the ix between the harshies and the cleans in the beginning. The harshies used for effect. This guys cleans are really nice, so much more than other bands that go back and forth. The part at 7:48 reminds me a lot of Michael Schenker. I like the section after that closes the song.
7.3+8.2=15.5/2=7.75



Chadler
Astral Body....7.3

Has some older elements to it.

The intro to this is excellent. The harsh vocal really isn’t that bad, because the music underneath it doesn’t compete with it. The middle clean section is nice enough. I like the second harsh section less than the first. Did I miss an instrumental/solo section? This feels kind of incomplete. I see it’s the first track on the album, so it’s leading in to something else. As a stand alone song, it feels a bit short.
For the second round in a row, the most sent song feels kind of…disappointing.


Condemned To The Gallows....7.4

Really nice song with bits that don’t hit you over the head.

This is actually a decent song, but it is really unremarkable. There’s no part that really jumps out at me a differentiates itself. There’s really nothing I don’t like about it, but I just didn’t find it all that memorable.
7.3+7.4=14.7/2=7.35
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 24, 2021, 12:37:57 PM
Round 3 Standings


Puppies....8.25
Romdrums....8.25
Wolfking....8.10
HOF....8.05
Cyril....7.95
Vmadera....7.95
Kingshmegland....7.85
Lonestar....7.85
Buddy....7.75
425....7.65
Kwyjibo....7.65
Elite....7.60
Ariich....7.60
Evermind....7.55
LudwigVan....7.35
Stadler....7.35
Professor....7.0




Standings


Puppies...8.60+8.15+8.25=25.00
Ariich...9.0+8.15+7.60=24.75
Kwyjibo...7.80+8.75+7.65=24.20
Romdrums...8.25+7.65+8.25=24.15
Kingshmegland...7.70+8.25+7.85=23.80
VMadera...8.45+7.35+7.95=23.75
Cyril...7.55+8.25+7.95=23.75
Stadler...8.50+7.75+7.35=23.60
Evermind...8.20+7.75+7.55=23.50
Wolfking...7.80+7.6+8.10=23.50
LudwigVan...8.35+7.55+7.35=23.25
HOF...7.65+7.50+8.05=23.20
425...7.90+7.40+7.65=22.95
Buddy...7.05+8.15+7.75=22.95
Lonestar...7.80+7.25+7.85=22.90
Elite...7.50+7.75+7.60=22.85
Professor...8.20+7.6+7.0=22.80




Check my math!!!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 24, 2021, 12:40:40 PM
Whoops!  Sorry Stads.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 24, 2021, 12:42:09 PM
I need a new dartboard.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 24, 2021, 12:46:44 PM
It's okay for a band I don't really know.  :D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: LudwigVan on November 24, 2021, 12:47:24 PM
 :justjen  If I thought I hated BTBAM before, this just puts the rubber stamp on it.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 24, 2021, 12:48:02 PM
:justjen  If I thought I hated BTBAM before, this just puts the rubber stamp on it.  :lol

 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 24, 2021, 12:52:05 PM
Damn, I considered The Proverbial Below as an Automata entry too, was so close but so far  :lol

I'll take that though. Anyways I'll diceroll for fail more tonight or something idk call me back when we get to round 5
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 24, 2021, 01:10:42 PM
Eh, okay I guess.

425, I'll roll some dice and send you some Neal Morse stuff so you could verify it for the vocal Nealness tomorrow.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 24, 2021, 01:16:19 PM
Okay, didn't win the round or even come close, so I guess I'm going to remain in the dark on what my submissions sound like! Middle of the pack is fine for me on a complete unknown, but I need to start stepping it up over the next few artists if I want to contend here.

Evermind and anyone else who wants to check vocals, my PM inbox is open.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 24, 2021, 01:18:05 PM
Let's get the Neal Morse songs in!
Again, when I added this round, I didn't realize he wasn't the singer, or main singer in all of his songs. But as long as he's 50%, it should be ok. The goal is to listen to him, but if another guy sings a chorus or something like that, that should be fine.




(https://i.imgflip.com/5vevmg.jpg)

Also, I have been asked by a fellow forumer who considers themself a Neal Morse expert. So much so, that, they will assume a handicap, that once all of the "best songs" are sent, they will pick two songs not sent to submit.

Their score will have no bearing on any of your scores, but I will grade them on the side for the hell of it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 24, 2021, 01:21:22 PM
Also, I have been asked by a fellow forumer who considers themself a Neal Morse expert. So much so, that, they will assume a handicap, that once all of the "best songs" are sent, they will pick two songs not sent to submit.

Their score will have no bearing on any of your scores, but I will grade them on the side for the hell of it.

This is cool, because I was sort of torn between wanting to do well and wanting to give you a diverse range of his music. As a result I used one of my spots to send something that I expect to be a really popular choice. So it will be nice to have someone sending songs just out of the motivation of wanting you to hear more.

Do we get to know who it is? Kev? Letter M?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 24, 2021, 01:22:16 PM
Also, I have been asked by a fellow forumer who considers themself a Neal Morse expert. So much so, that, they will assume a handicap, that once all of the "best songs" are sent, they will pick two songs not sent to submit.

Their score will have no bearing on any of your scores, but I will grade them on the side for the hell of it.

This is cool, because I was sort of torn between wanting to do well and wanting to give you a diverse range of his music. As a result I used one of my spots to send something that I expect to be a really popular choice. So it will be nice to have someone sending songs just out of the motivation of wanting you to hear more.

Do we get to know who it is? Kev? Letter M?

Not anytime soon.. ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 24, 2021, 01:47:40 PM
Also, I have been asked by a fellow forumer who considers themself a Neal Morse expert. So much so, that, they will assume a handicap, that once all of the "best songs" are sent, they will pick two songs not sent to submit.

Their score will have no bearing on any of your scores, but I will grade them on the side for the hell of it.

This is cool, because I was sort of torn between wanting to do well and wanting to give you a diverse range of his music. As a result I used one of my spots to send something that I expect to be a really popular choice. So it will be nice to have someone sending songs just out of the motivation of wanting you to hear more.

Do we get to know who it is? Kev? Letter M?

Not anytime soon.. ;D

MP?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 24, 2021, 01:48:01 PM
You got one thing absolutely right in your assessment, Blake Richardson is a top drummer. Like top 5 for me. He is a fucking beast.


Sent happy Christian tunes.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 24, 2021, 01:53:13 PM
Also, I have been asked by a fellow forumer who considers themself a Neal Morse expert. So much so, that, they will assume a handicap, that once all of the "best songs" are sent, they will pick two songs not sent to submit.

Their score will have no bearing on any of your scores, but I will grade them on the side for the hell of it.

This is cool, because I was sort of torn between wanting to do well and wanting to give you a diverse range of his music. As a result I used one of my spots to send something that I expect to be a really popular choice. So it will be nice to have someone sending songs just out of the motivation of wanting you to hear more.

Do we get to know who it is? Kev? Letter M?

Not anytime soon.. ;D

MP?

TAC's made too many negative comments about MP's vocals for that to be possible. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 24, 2021, 02:01:30 PM
Also, I have been asked by a fellow forumer who considers themself a Neal Morse expert. So much so, that, they will assume a handicap, that once all of the "best songs" are sent, they will pick two songs not sent to submit.

Their score will have no bearing on any of your scores, but I will grade them on the side for the hell of it.

This is cool, because I was sort of torn between wanting to do well and wanting to give you a diverse range of his music. As a result I used one of my spots to send something that I expect to be a really popular choice. So it will be nice to have someone sending songs just out of the motivation of wanting you to hear more.

Do we get to know who it is? Kev? Letter M?

Not anytime soon.. ;D

MP?

 :lol

Um...no.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 24, 2021, 02:07:25 PM
 :lol

Trying to narrow down the songs.  I'll work on that tonight.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 24, 2021, 02:12:23 PM
Dammit, got beaten by people who picked songs at random. :lol

More so than previous rounds, it's hard to reconcile write-ups with scores. Like, some other songs seem to have similarly critical writeups to Lay Your Ghosts To Rest but much better scores.

That said, I can understand why that song didn't work for you. I sent it because of how amazing the clean sections are and I'm glad you enjoyed those as much as you did, but I guess there's quite a few intense parts throughout the song too.

Silent Flight Parliament I feel deserved better, but never mind, bring on the next round.

I'm gunning for you, Pup!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 24, 2021, 02:13:47 PM
Well at least Memory Palace was a good call! I love the breakdown riff in the middle of that one. All of BTBAM's cowbell breakdowns are good, actually. :lol

Sent for Neal Morse. Unlike you cowards who dice rolled I suffered through enough to find just two songs I actually enjoyed. :biggrin: Same for the next round.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 24, 2021, 02:18:06 PM
Sent for NM.

Since I am the bottom dweller, I threw caution to the wind and discarded my TAC-centric picks and went with favorites. Maybe it will keep me where I am and maybe it will backfire and he'll love them.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2021, 02:18:25 PM
I'm happy my Parallax 1 combo paid off well enough.  Just a beast of an EP.

I almost sent Human is Hell.  I kind of wish I did now to be honest.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 24, 2021, 02:23:13 PM
Dammit, got beaten by people who picked songs at random. :lol

More so than previous rounds, it's hard to reconcile write-ups with scores. Like, some other songs seem to have similarly critical writeups to Lay Your Ghosts To Rest but much better scores.

That said, I can understand why that song didn't work for you. I sent it because of how amazing the clean sections are and I'm glad you enjoyed those as much as you did, but I guess there's quite a few intense parts throughout the song too.

Silent Flight Parliament I feel deserved better, but never mind, bring on the next round.

I'm gunning for you, Pup!

So, Silent Flight Parliament might've benefitted from a two week round.

As far as the writeups/scores go..
For this round, I listened to each song three times and on the fourth run through, I did the writeups. I start ranking during the second listen, and tweak it again after the third. As I was doing the writeups, a lot of these songs started to clear up for me. Again, tweaking the rankings as I went.

After that, I basically grant a high and low score range and play with them within. I needle dropped some things that I was unsure of, but by that point, I was just done with this round. Usually, I'll do a reaction style writeup with a sentence or two at the end with a general thought. But this round, like I said, I just couldn't do another listen and tweak the comments.

All of the songs had good parts in them.

Lay Your Ghosts To Rest was an example of one song actually getting worse the more I listened to it. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 24, 2021, 02:39:55 PM
Well, that turned out to be a pretty decent round. Now for some Neal Morse! Sent.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 24, 2021, 03:30:18 PM
Wow, that went wrong.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on November 24, 2021, 04:03:59 PM
Boom!  Tied with puppies for best score of the round.   :metal

Glad you liked those tunes.  Some of my favorites from BTBAM, that’s for sure! 
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 24, 2021, 05:59:51 PM
Roulette Update!


For the Mastodon round, I WILL accept submissions from their new album. Initially I banned it, as I have listened to most of it ONCE. It IS ok to send something from their new album. The OP has been updated..
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 24, 2021, 06:43:02 PM
9 in so far, and the double submissions are already accumulating. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2021, 07:00:39 PM
Roulette Update!


For the Mastodon round, I WILL accept submissions from their new album. Initially I banned it, as I have listened to most of it ONCE. It IS ok to send something from their new album. The OP has been updated..

Fair play but I wouldn't bother personally.  They have enough good shit outside the new one to send IMO.  Could be a masterstroke for some songs though if submitted.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2021, 07:01:25 PM
Can you make another roulette update where I can send Steve Morse instead of Neal Morse?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 24, 2021, 07:02:33 PM
Roulette Update!


For the Mastodon round, I WILL accept submissions from their new album. Initially I banned it, as I have listened to most of it ONCE. It IS ok to send something from their new album. The OP has been updated..

Fair play but I wouldn't bother personally.  They have enough good shit outside the new one to send IMO.  Could be a masterstroke for some songs though if submitted.

Don't you mean a.....mastostroke? :neverusethis:






I'm sorry.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 24, 2021, 07:03:21 PM
Can you make another roulette update where I can send Steve Morse instead of Neal Morse?


Yeah, but you'd have to send Pete Townsend instead of Devin Townsend.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2021, 07:04:18 PM
Roulette Update!


For the Mastodon round, I WILL accept submissions from their new album. Initially I banned it, as I have listened to most of it ONCE. It IS ok to send something from their new album. The OP has been updated..

Fair play but I wouldn't bother personally.  They have enough good shit outside the new one to send IMO.  Could be a masterstroke for some songs though if submitted.

Don't you mean a.....mastostroke? :neverusethis:






I'm sorry.

No.......a mastastroke.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2021, 07:04:54 PM
Can you make another roulette update where I can send Steve Morse instead of Neal Morse?


Yeah, but you'd have to send Pete Townsend instead of Devin Townsend.  :lol

Deal.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 24, 2021, 07:07:23 PM
 :lol

I was right in front of Jerry Peek when The Steve Morse Band opened up for Rush on the Power Windows tour. What a great show.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2021, 07:08:40 PM
:lol

I was right in front of Jerry Peek when The Steve Morse Band opened up for Rush on the Power Windows tour. What a great show.

Amazing player indeed.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 24, 2021, 07:15:46 PM
i'm listening to a few neil morse band songs and if there's more than one singer on any of these i would never in a million years be able to tell. i can't find any reference for who sings what anywhere online either so if i accidentally submit a banned song i think it should considered legal anyways because it's not my fault the man doesn't sing in his own goddamn band  :loser:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 24, 2021, 07:31:52 PM
i'm listening to a few neil morse band songs and if there's more than one singer on any of these i would never in a million years be able to tell. i can't find any reference for who sings what anywhere online either so if i accidentally submit a banned song i think it should considered legal anyways because it's not my fault the man doesn't sing in his own goddamn band  :loser:

You're telling me the singer at 1:56 sounds just like the singer at 2:24? (https://youtu.be/PiNt_kQvoag) Might want to get your ears checked.

The reference is me. Just PM me what you're submitting and I'll tell you if you're good. I am going to be stickler about it if TAC posts the submissions and there ends up being banned stuff in there, because I didn't get to send everything I wanted to send.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 24, 2021, 07:41:28 PM
Can you make another roulette update where I can send Steve Morse instead of Neal Morse?

Find a Flying Colors song with a lot of Neal vocal and you are set.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 24, 2021, 07:42:30 PM
:lol

I was right in front of Jerry Peek when The Steve Morse Band opened up for Rush on the Power Windows tour. What a great show.

I saw them on that tour. If you own the bootleg of the Providence show, I know the kid that taped it, and he did an amazing job.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 24, 2021, 07:43:39 PM
i'm listening to a few neil morse band songs and if there's more than one singer on any of these i would never in a million years be able to tell. i can't find any reference for who sings what anywhere online either so if i accidentally submit a banned song i think it should considered legal anyways because it's not my fault the man doesn't sing in his own goddamn band  :loser:

You're telling me the singer at 1:56 sounds just like the singer at 2:24? (https://youtu.be/PiNt_kQvoag) Might want to get your ears checked.
i mean i didn't listen to this one, so  :lol
i've literally checked out like four or five songs at most and there was only one part in one song where it was a noticeably different singer
rather than everyone PMing 425 individually i think he owes us a list of every song that's eligible by the 50% rule, if we're actually being this big of a stickler about vetting it  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 24, 2021, 07:46:23 PM
i'm listening to a few neil morse band songs and if there's more than one singer on any of these i would never in a million years be able to tell. i can't find any reference for who sings what anywhere online either so if i accidentally submit a banned song i think it should considered legal anyways because it's not my fault the man doesn't sing in his own goddamn band  :loser:

You're telling me the singer at 1:56 sounds just like the singer at 2:24? (https://youtu.be/PiNt_kQvoag) Might want to get your ears checked.

The reference is me. Just PM me what you're submitting and I'll tell you if you're good. I am going to be stickler about it if TAC posts the submissions and there ends up being banned stuff in there, because I didn't get to send everything I wanted to send.



(https://i.imgflip.com/5vg5zz.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 24, 2021, 07:50:20 PM
:lol

What I'm writing on that clipboard is "No, ariich, that's Eric Gillette."

It's easier for me to vet what gets sent than go through 62 songs by myself, but fine. I'll post a list soon.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 24, 2021, 07:51:30 PM

What I'm writing on that clipboard is "No, ariich, that's Eric Gillette."

 :lol


Nice.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 24, 2021, 07:54:23 PM
Our friend is checking in...

(https://i.imgflip.com/5vg6r7.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 24, 2021, 07:54:34 PM
i mean i'm actually suffering through listening to this, i'd like to know my suffering is worth something
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 24, 2021, 07:54:48 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/cHwXbphp/Screenshot-20211124-215252-Chrome.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PpfWLFBy) (https://banks-nearme.com/huntington-bank-near-me)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 24, 2021, 07:56:30 PM
i mean i'm actually suffering through listening to this, i'd like to know my suffering is worth something

Now you know how I felt last round. :lol



There's no way it's that bad, is it? 
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 24, 2021, 07:56:51 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/cHwXbphp/Screenshot-20211124-215252-Chrome.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PpfWLFBy) (https://banks-nearme.com/huntington-bank-near-me)

 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 24, 2021, 07:57:16 PM
425 already said one of my songs is 50% Neal so I’m holding him to that! :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 24, 2021, 08:02:45 PM
There's no way it's that bad, is it?
they are actually a lot better than anything i've been sent featuring him in a roulette but that's largely in part because i'm perusing a combination of RYM and the recent Neal Morse survivor to pick at only the songs people seem to like the most that are also not a billion years long  :lol a few of the ones i checked out were pretty lousy though anyways. would not listen to any of these albums in full
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 24, 2021, 08:07:10 PM
we should retroactively redo the BTBAM round and ban any songs that have less than 50% growls and see what happens :neverusethis:
opeth has to be 75% or more growls too and the SW/PT songs have to be at least 80% british
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 24, 2021, 08:08:54 PM
Imagine that graph?  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 24, 2021, 08:16:00 PM
We do science in this roulette! :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 24, 2021, 08:55:37 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/cHwXbphp/Screenshot-20211124-215252-Chrome.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PpfWLFBy) (https://banks-nearme.com/huntington-bank-near-me)

:lol

I was less than fully exact (I don't even know how one would do that). If it was very close to 50%, I gave the benefit of the doubt.

Here's the list of legal songs. Bear in mind that this only applies to Neal Morse Band songs. Neal Morse solo songs are all legal unless they are instrumentals or from the Jesus Christ the Exorcist album where there are a lot of different singers.

The Call
The Grand Experiment
Waterfall
Agenda
Alive Again
New Jerusalem (Freedom is Coming)

Long Day
The Dream
City of Destruction
We Have Got to Go
Makes No Sense
Draw the Line
Back to the City
Breath of Angels
Slave to Your Mind
Shortcut to Salvation
The Man in the Iron Cage
The Road Called Home
Sloth
Freedom Song
I’m Running
The Mask
Confrontation
Broken Sky/Long Day (Reprise)

Overture [from The Great Adventure]
The Dream Isn’t Over
Welcome to the World
A Momentary Change
Dark Melody
I Got to Run
To the River
The Great Adventure
Venture in Black
Long Ago
The Dream Continues
Fighting with Destiny
Welcome to the World 2 (forgot this one)
Child of Wonder

Do It All Again
Bird on a Wire
Another Story to Tell
Not Afraid Pt. 1
Not Afraid Pt. 2
Beyond the Years (lol someone do it)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 24, 2021, 08:57:54 PM
looks like i'm good anyways, then  :lol i sent one NMB song and one NM solo song and the NMB song i sent is on the list so eyup. Just As Planned
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 24, 2021, 08:59:04 PM
Who's running this roulette? :lol :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 24, 2021, 09:00:09 PM
Please don't make me listen to BTBAM
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 24, 2021, 09:53:05 PM
Desert of Song - 10 Hour Loop
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 24, 2021, 11:24:59 PM
Woohoo! 1st place! Time to tank the Neal Morse round!

I actually almost sent Memory Palace instead of Bad Habits, which would have improved my score even more, but I swapped it out at the last second. Oh well.

I'll be sending my Neal Morse stuff in a little bit.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Revenge319 on November 24, 2021, 11:36:05 PM
Nobody sent Bloom? Or Melting City? Or The Grid? I knew I should've joined this roulette :'(

There were still some great choices here, though, like The Coma Machine and The Proverbial Bellow.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 24, 2021, 11:45:06 PM
And sent! :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2021, 11:52:56 PM
Nobody sent Bloom? Or Melting City? Or The Grid? I knew I should've joined this roulette :'(

There were still some great choices here, though, like The Coma Machine and The Proverbial Bellow.

I would have never ever entertained the idea sending Bloom.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2021, 11:53:37 PM
I almost sent Telos, but the first few minutes would have fully turned Tim off.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 25, 2021, 12:31:14 AM
... . -. -
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 25, 2021, 02:27:29 AM
Sent

I wonder if some of you were brave enough to sent some of NMs 30+ minute epics.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 25, 2021, 03:44:51 AM
Sent

I wonder if some of you were brave enough to sent some of NMs 30+ minute epics.
Someone send Beyond the Years and The Great Nothing.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 25, 2021, 05:14:21 AM
Sent.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 25, 2021, 05:59:54 AM
Sent

I wonder if some of you were brave enough to sent some of NMs 30+ minute epics.

I tortured Tim with Kaleidoscope once.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 25, 2021, 07:00:14 AM
Sent

I wonder if some of you were brave enough to sent some of NMs 30+ minute epics.

I tortured Tim with Kaleidoscope once.

That song is not even good, just long.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 25, 2021, 07:03:33 AM
Sent

I wonder if some of you were brave enough to sent some of NMs 30+ minute epics.

I tortured Tim with Kaleidoscope once.

Is that what you sent in the Epic round in my first roulette?


Found it!


Quote from: TAC
Jingle.boy - Transatlantic – Kaleidoscope

I would’ve been fine with Dimension Act. You told me I NEED this song. I NEED an enema too.

Seriously, I could only get through this twice. It’s too much and while the playing is very good and nice, I had a hard time staying focused on it. Awesome to hear MP though, and I really miss his playing. The vocals on this are pretty bland, and this would be much better live. I think it would have retained some more energy. The two Anathema songs from the last round would’ve likely struggled too had it not been a live round.

8.5



Even though it got an 8.5, it was last place in the round. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 25, 2021, 07:16:28 AM
So to clear up any confusion...

I got this very nice greeting in one of my PMs...

Quote from:  
Hi there Tee Ay Cee!

..even though T-A-C are my initials,  it's pronouned TACK! :lol

Although I do think of HOF as H-O-F and not as HOFF.
HOF, please let us know the preference.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 25, 2021, 07:24:44 AM
So to clear up any confusion...

I got this very nice greeting in one of my PMs...

Quote from:  
Hi there Tee Ay Cee!

..even though T-A-C are my initials,  it's pronouned TACK! :lol

Although I do think of HOF as H-O-F and not as HOFF.
HOF, please let us know the preference.

Well, it was shortened from my MP forum name which was HAIRONFIRE, so H-O-F would be appropriate, but I probably think of it as HOFF when I see it now. Either way works really.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 25, 2021, 07:25:55 AM
So to clear up any confusion...

I got this very nice greeting in one of my PMs...

Quote from:  
Hi there Tee Ay Cee!

..even though T-A-C are my initials,  it's pronouned TACK! :lol

Although I do think of HOF as H-O-F and not as HOFF.
HOF, please let us know the preference.

So Tee Ay Cee Kay?  ;D

But the A doesn't stand for Aleister?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 25, 2021, 07:34:40 AM
But the A doesn't stand for Aleister?

It's Alan, but close enough. :lol
And yes, that is my last name.

I've told this story before, but my father was a high school teacher. One of his students brought in a cassette and said "Mr. Crowley, you have to hear this song."  :lol

I was in junior high, 7th or 8th grade, and my father brought home a copy of Blizzard Of Ozz, so we listened to it.
He hated it.
I loved it! :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 25, 2021, 08:13:44 AM
It's pronounced Tack-e.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 25, 2021, 08:23:44 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 25, 2021, 08:24:06 AM
Okay, I'm home, let's roll it! Spock's Beard is also allowed, right?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 25, 2021, 08:27:11 AM
Okay, I'm home, let's roll it! Spock's Beard is also allowed, right?

Apparently. :lol


Yes, it is.

Make sure there's a good amount of Neal singing.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 25, 2021, 08:29:00 AM
Once Ruslan sends, I'll be just waiting for Vmadera.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 25, 2021, 08:41:41 AM
Sent! Both songs from Neal's solo work as it turned out.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 25, 2021, 08:45:46 AM
Dice don't lie. :lol

(https://i.imgur.com/Uc5mL79.jpg)


Why would some even have dice like that in the first place? Surely they're just not for roulettes. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on November 25, 2021, 08:51:28 AM
It's for nerd stuff! Although I guess roulettes are also nerd stuff in a way.

I think I may have a bit too many dice though. :lol I'll send you a pic after the roulette is done just for laughs.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 25, 2021, 08:52:41 AM
Tim, you shame me.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 25, 2021, 09:08:26 AM
Tim, you shame me.

Just doing what good friends do. Making you feel smarter than you actually are. :lol




I haven't listened to anything yet. My ears were worn out last round. There's a bunch of repeats in this round but it looks like a mountain of music in front of me. Going out later for the afternoon so I'll start on it tonight.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 25, 2021, 09:28:42 AM
 :lol

Tim, Tim, Tim.  I have a wife for that.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: nick_z on November 25, 2021, 10:33:39 AM
But the A doesn't stand for Aleister?

It's Alan, but close enough. :lol
And yes, that is my last name.

I've told this story before, but my father was a high school teacher. One of his students brought in a cassette and said "Mr. Crowley, you have to hear this song."  :lol

I was in junior high, 7th or 8th grade, and my father brought home a copy of Blizzard Of Ozz, so we listened to it.
He hated it.
I loved it! :metal

That's a very cool story  :)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 25, 2021, 12:57:22 PM
It's for nerd stuff! Although I guess roulettes are also nerd stuff in a way.

I think I may have a bit too many dice though. :lol I'll send you a pic after the roulette is done just for laughs.

Wait, I'm old and a nerd?  :'(
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 25, 2021, 08:08:14 PM
It's for nerd stuff! Although I guess roulettes are also nerd stuff in a way.

I think I may have a bit too many dice though. :lol I'll send you a pic after the roulette is done just for laughs.

Wait, I'm old and a nerd?  :'(

(https://c.tenor.com/r6HVIYdC2UAAAAAM/supernatural-dean-winchester.gif)

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 25, 2021, 08:24:35 PM
Everyone is in. 22 songs at just under 3 hours.

I'll post stats tomorrow along with the song list.

Listening has commenced, and by that, I'm going through Cyril's and 425's submissions to eliminate their Wild Cards.

And of their combined 6 songs, I actually have to listen to 4 total tracks. :lol



And we are still waiting for the Omnicient One to send..

(https://i.imgflip.com/5vkluc.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 25, 2021, 08:33:43 PM
TAC i already used my wildcard round 1, i told you very specifically that i was sending the third one only as a backup in case 425 told you the first song was banned  :rollin
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 25, 2021, 08:36:57 PM
Us old guys and our memories. Lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 25, 2021, 08:37:45 PM
It's for nerd stuff! Although I guess roulettes are also nerd stuff in a way.

I think I may have a bit too many dice though. :lol I'll send you a pic after the roulette is done just for laughs.

Wait, I'm old and a nerd?  :'(

(https://c.tenor.com/r6HVIYdC2UAAAAAM/supernatural-dean-winchester.gif)

 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 25, 2021, 08:39:21 PM
TAC i already used my wildcard round 1, i told you very specifically that i was sending the third one only as a backup in case 425 told you the first song was banned  :rollin

Hey lookey there, it's right there in your PM. :lol

Well, that's good, because I eliminated the third one anyway. :lol




Us old guys and our memories. Lol

It's funny, because I could've sworn Cyril used a Wild Card in the first round.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 25, 2021, 08:42:20 PM
I'm embarrassed to tell you my stories   :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 25, 2021, 09:03:06 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/5vkp3x.jpg)

Well, alright then.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 25, 2021, 09:15:07 PM
TAC i already used my wildcard round 1, i told you very specifically that i was sending the third one only as a backup in case 425 told you the first song was banned  :rollin

Hey lookey there, it's right there in your PM. :lol

Well, that's good, because I eliminated the third one anyway. :lol
my arbitration was successful! i am one step closer to figuring out the secret of the TAC tastes (5.5/10)
going to assume based on only 22 songs being sent across 17 players that there was a surprising amount of doubling up, huh?  :corn i expected it for the haken and BTBAM rounds but this dude has like five billion albums
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 25, 2021, 09:27:29 PM

going to assume based on only 22 songs being sent across 17 players that there was a surprising amount of doubling up, huh?  :corn i expected it for the haken and BTBAM rounds but this dude has like five billion albums

I'm surprised as well. I thought I was looking at 4-5 hours of music for this round. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 25, 2021, 09:45:19 PM

going to assume based on only 22 songs being sent across 17 players that there was a surprising amount of doubling up, huh?  :corn i expected it for the haken and BTBAM rounds but this dude has like five billion albums

I'm surprised as well. I thought I was looking at 4-5 hours of music for this round. :lol
Will be interesting to see if anyone else sent the same songs I did. I wouldn't be surprised.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 25, 2021, 09:54:26 PM
I’m guessing everyone sent the same songs because there are a limited number of Neal Morse songs anyone would think TAC would like.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 25, 2021, 09:56:46 PM
i'd be more shocked if the songs i sent -weren't- sent by other people
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 26, 2021, 02:33:51 AM
I didn't sent songs I think Tim could like, I sent songs I like. As I've been doing this whole roulette (at least for the bands I know).

Trying to guess what someone likes is bound to fail, as every man can confirm when he tries to find the perfect gift for his girlfriend/wife.  ;D

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 26, 2021, 02:42:27 AM
I didn't sent songs I think Tim could like, I sent songs I like. As I've been doing this whole roulette (at least for the bands I know).

Trying to guess what someone likes is bound to fail, as every man can confirm when he tries to find the perfect gift for his girlfriend/wife.  ;D
I think it's good to balance the two. I won't send something I don't like a lot myself. But if I like the artist then generally there's loads of things I like a lot, so the ones I send I'll try and tailor to the host in terms of things they might like and/or things I think give a good introduction to that artist.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 26, 2021, 03:22:20 AM
I'm sending songs I like myself and think Tim might like as well. With a song you like personally, it's easier to see how/why someone else would like the same track as well.

 I rarely if ever have sent songs I'm not fond of in roulettes.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 26, 2021, 04:53:47 AM
I’m guessing everyone sent the same songs because there are a limited number of Neal Morse songs anyone would think TAC would like.

This.  Invariably, one could probably eliminate 1/2 of his output due to 1 of 3 reasons - not heavy enough; too long; too heavy-handed on the religiousness.

I'm kinda eager to see what's been sent.  I'm no expert on Neal Morse, but I've got a good number of his albums, and all SB.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 26, 2021, 05:39:31 AM
I sent 2 SB songs for the 3 reasons Jingle mentioned. There were a few I wanted to send from NMB but didn't.

I'm hyped about the next rounds since I know all 4 bands a lot more than the first 4.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2021, 05:40:12 AM
i'd be more shocked if the songs i sent -weren't- sent by other people

All um..three of your songs were sent by multiple people.  All of them.




Will be interesting to see if anyone else sent the same songs I did. I wouldn't be surprised.


I don't think anyone did, actually.



I’m guessing everyone sent the same songs because there are a limited number of Neal Morse songs anyone would think TAC would like.

This.  Invariably, one could probably eliminate 1/2 of his output due to 1 of 3 reasons - not heavy enough; too long; too heavy-handed on the religiousness.


I have no problem with this. This would definitely be a wrong assumption.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 26, 2021, 06:26:32 AM
i'd be more shocked if the songs i sent -weren't- sent by other people

All um..three of your songs were sent by multiple people.  All of them.

All the people?

I’m guessing everyone sent the same songs because there are a limited number of Neal Morse songs anyone would think TAC would like.

This.  Invariably, one could probably eliminate 1/2 of his output due to 1 of 3 reasons - not heavy enough; too long; too heavy-handed on the religiousness.


I have no problem with this. This would definitely be a wrong assumption.

Generally speaking, I don't either.  But it can get a little overly repetitive when you listen to a lot of NM/NMB for a prolonged period of time.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 26, 2021, 06:38:30 AM
I'm curious if anyone else sent the songs I sent.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2021, 06:59:35 AM
Here are the songs for this round..

Romdrums
Harm’s Way (Spock’s Beard)
Waste Away(Spock’s Beard)

Stadler
Weathering Sky
Bird On A Wire

Buddy
The Call
Bird On A Wire

425
The Call
Broken Sky/Long Day

Lonestar
Time Changer
Author Of Confusion

Professor
At The End Of The Day (Spock’s Beard)
I Am Your Father

Ariich
The Call
Another Story To Tell

HOF
Flow (Spock’s Beard)
My Shoes Revisited(Spock’s Beard)

Kingshmegland
At the End of the Day (Spock’s Beard)
The Good Don't Last(Spock’s Beard)

Cyril
The Call
In the Fire

LudwigVan
The Call
Do It Again

Puppies
Devil’s Got My Throat (Spock’s Beard)
The Light (Spock’s Beard)

Elite
Thoughts Pt II (Spock’s Beard)
Thoughts Pt V

Kwyjibo
At The End Of The Day (Spock’s Beard)
Thoughts Pt II (Spock’s Beard)

Wolfking
In The Fire
Author Of Confusion

Evermind
Entrance
Overflow

Vmadera
Crack The Big Sky (Spock's Beard)
Into Fire (Spock's Beard)




Omincient One
Seemingly Sincere
Freedom Song
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 26, 2021, 07:03:13 AM
I love "The Call" but I knew so many people would send it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2021, 07:06:15 AM
I've only listened to about 10 songs so far. I'll say this about The Call.

In the last two rounds, the most sent song was surprisingly underwhelming...
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 26, 2021, 07:10:35 AM
I was sure that I'm not the only one  who will send At The End Of The Day, cause that's the best Beard song right there.

Surprised someone else sent Thoughts Part II.


Omincient One

Ziltoid, is that you?

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51JsDOGMS9L._SY450_.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 26, 2021, 07:14:56 AM
Here are the songs for this round..

Romdrums
Harm’s Way (Spock’s Beard)
Waste Away(Spock’s Beard)


Both great and both ones I considered sending. Waste Away is a really fun track.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 26, 2021, 07:15:25 AM
Interesting. Tim, what would you say his style is reminiscent to from our youth?  I always thought a mix of Kansas and Yes.  Both Morse and Meros (Spock's bassist) Played with Eric Burden in the early 90's before forming Spock's Beard. 
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2021, 07:18:18 AM
Interesting. Tim, what would you say his style is reminiscent to from our youth?  I always thought a mix of Kansas and Yes.  Both Morse and Meros (Spock's bassist) Played with Eric Burden in the early 90's before forming Spock's Beard.

I definitely hear Yes. I've heard Styx, Dream Theater, and Deep Purple so far.



Eric Burdon is awesome BTW. I consider The Animals as sneaky heavy, kind of like the first metal styled band, without quite the sound yet.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 26, 2021, 07:26:38 AM
Here are the songs for this round..

Romdrums
Harm’s Way (Spock’s Beard)
Waste Away(Spock’s Beard)


Both great and both ones I considered sending. Waste Away is a really fun track.

Waste Away has one of the best lyrics line: "Some people are like gravy, spilled on god's sunday shirt"  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2021, 07:27:09 AM
That's funny.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 26, 2021, 07:28:41 AM
Here are the songs for this round..

Romdrums
Harm’s Way (Spock’s Beard)
Waste Away(Spock’s Beard)


Both great and both ones I considered sending. Waste Away is a really fun track.

Waste Away has one of the best lyrics line: "Some people are like gravy, spilled on god's sunday shirt"  :lol

Ha, absolutely. That’s the kind of stuff I loved about Neal in the SB days.

Somehow I was not aware that Neal had done a Thoughts Pt V. Which album is that on?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 26, 2021, 07:39:53 AM
Thoughts Part V is on Momentum
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 26, 2021, 07:51:53 AM
Thoughts Part V is on Momentum

Ah, I know that one but thought that was part III. Maybe there is no part III. There’s also Afterthoughts from SB that I thought was the last of the series.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 26, 2021, 07:53:03 AM
RJ and Kade, good call with Author of Confusion. :metal That's a great tune and I very much considered sending it, but in the end wasn't sure what Tim would think of the vocal approach in literally all the vocal sections in that song. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on November 26, 2021, 07:55:48 AM
There are some really good Spock’s songs in this round.  At The End Of The Day is, in my opinion, the definitive Neal era SB song.  Nick’s drumming is so damn good.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 26, 2021, 08:08:19 AM
There are some really good Spock’s songs in this round.  At The End Of The Day is, in my opinion, the definitive Neal era SB song.  Nick’s drumming is so damn good.

Agree with all of this.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 26, 2021, 08:30:31 AM
The Call just feels like a song you can't leave on the table. I knew a ton of people would send it, but if I'm playing to win, I can't just leave it out there.

Interesting choices from the Omniscient One. I love Freedom Song, but it's hard to imagine it being a hit with Tim.

I'll just drop this tidbit: I used my wildcard, and it's interesting knowing which song was not chosen, especially since other people sent it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 26, 2021, 08:37:48 AM

Omincient One

Ziltoid, is that you?

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51JsDOGMS9L._SY450_.jpg)

Must be King Ziltoid, since he can't spell.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 26, 2021, 08:51:28 AM
Ha ha, didn't even see that  :D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 26, 2021, 08:53:11 AM
The Call just feels like a song you can't leave on the table. I knew a ton of people would send it, but if I'm playing to win, I can't just leave it out there.

Interesting choices from the Omniscient One. I love Freedom Song, but it's hard to imagine it being a hit with Tim.

I'll just drop this tidbit: I used my wildcard, and it's interesting knowing which song was not chosen, especially since other people sent it.

I considered sending Seemingly Sincere myself, that's a great song with a big buildup. Freedom Song is nice, but nothing special imo, and it works better in context with the album.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 26, 2021, 08:58:52 AM
Yeah, Seemingly Sincere is a good choice. I like Freedom Song as a standalone, but that's because I enjoy that style. Working better in the context of the album is not something that would've stopped me by itself, as you can see from my Broken Sky/Long Day submission.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 26, 2021, 09:01:57 AM
Chad, are you saying I have a dual personality? :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 26, 2021, 09:14:07 AM
:tup for Kwyjibo sending Thoughts II as well

Good Spock’s Beard picks all around, apart from My Shoes away from the rest of The Healing Colors of Sound. I can’t comment on the Neal Morse (Band) songs.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2021, 09:19:21 AM
RJ and Kade, good call with Author of Confusion. :metal

There are at least three songs better than it on first listen.. ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 26, 2021, 10:31:26 AM
I think Into Fire and Freedom Song are either going to be very smart, or very dumb (or one of each).  Both are *completely* different from any other song submitted ... hell, different from any other NM/NMB/SB song in general.  The former is almost Accept-like.  And the latter is catchy af.  But then again, so is chlamydia.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 26, 2021, 10:37:57 AM
I hadn’t heard anyone talking about The Call so I didn’t know it’d be the popular pick, I just sent it because I thought it was actually good.

Devil’s Got My Throat is one of the songs I had a violent reaction to when doing my research. :lol I could not stand Neal’s voice on that album.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2021, 10:39:23 AM

Devil’s Got My Throat is one of the songs I had a violent reaction to when doing my research. :lol I could not stand Neal’s voice on that album.

So..maybe the devil actually DID have his throat?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Stadler on November 26, 2021, 10:44:15 AM
Whoops!  Sorry Stads.

Fucking killing me.  :)


(I'm kidding; I appreciate you stepping up.)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 26, 2021, 10:44:52 AM

Devil’s Got My Throat is one of the songs I had a violent reaction to when doing my research. :lol I could not stand Neal’s voice on that album.

So..maybe the devil actually DID have his throat?

:icy:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2021, 10:46:22 AM
Whoops!  Sorry Stads.

Fucking killing me.  :)


(I'm kidding; I appreciate you stepping up.)

Seemed like he actually stepped down...
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 26, 2021, 10:58:41 AM
I hadn’t heard anyone talking about The Call so I didn’t know it’d be the popular pick, I just sent it because I thought it was actually good.

That doesn't really surprise me. The Call is so good that I can easily see it being one of those "I'm not really a fan of NM, but I do like this" songs.

It's cool that The Call is the first song on the first Neal Morse Band album. What a way to say "yeah, this 'Band' thing is not a gimmick, there's something special here." (For the uninitiated, "Neal Morse Band" is a five-piece, truly collaborative project that should probably have a different name, while "Neal Morse" solo albums are truly solo.) Actually, the first song on the first album of a lot of NM projects end up being pretty special: The Light, All of the Above, The Call.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 26, 2021, 11:05:36 AM
RJ and Kade, good call with Author of Confusion. :metal That's a great tune and I very much considered sending it, but in the end wasn't sure what Tim would think of the vocal approach in literally all the vocal sections in that song. :lol
spoilers: it was my """wildcard""" that TAC liked less than my other two  :corn
if the call had been banned, i would've had the exact same submission as wolfking, apparently  :lol

tbh i don't think nearly enough people sent The Call :neverusethis:
it was kind of the obvious highlight of what little neal morse i did listen to for this tho, so
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 26, 2021, 11:46:11 AM
RJ and Kade, good call with Author of Confusion. :metal That's a great tune and I very much considered sending it, but in the end wasn't sure what Tim would think of the vocal approach in literally all the vocal sections in that song. :lol

The first couple of minutes was enough for me to send it.  While the vocals were interesting, surprisingly I thought the whole damn thing was pretty good actually.  Not sure what Tim will think but it was cool enough for me to send.

425 did recommend it but I stumbled across it first and his cautious recommendation also was enough to send it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 26, 2021, 11:47:39 AM
RJ and Kade, good call with Author of Confusion. :metal That's a great tune and I very much considered sending it, but in the end wasn't sure what Tim would think of the vocal approach in literally all the vocal sections in that song. :lol
spoilers: it was my """wildcard""" that TAC liked less than my other two  :corn
if the call had been banned, i would've had the exact same submission as wolfking, apparently  :lol

tbh i don't think nearly enough people sent The Call :neverusethis:
it was kind of the obvious highlight of what little neal morse i did listen to for this tho, so

Ah.....well okay then.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2021, 11:55:02 AM
RJ and Kade, good call with Author of Confusion. :metal That's a great tune and I very much considered sending it, but in the end wasn't sure what Tim would think of the vocal approach in literally all the vocal sections in that song. :lol

The first couple of minutes was enough for me to send it.  While the vocals were interesting, surprisingly I thought the whole damn thing was pretty good actually.  Not sure what Tim will think but it was cool enough for me to send.

425 did recommend it but I stumbled across it first and his cautious recommendation also was enough to send it.


I was thinking you heard the first 30 seconds and clicked Send. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 26, 2021, 12:08:18 PM
That's what did it for me  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 26, 2021, 12:11:03 PM
yeah that one dropped a few spots in my TAC-rating when the vocals came in  :corn not really a fan of the vocals there either tbh
the first few minutes were pretty cool though
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2021, 12:11:40 PM
That's what did it for me  :lol
:lol

It started out, and I was thinking, Gee this is pretty cool... :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 26, 2021, 12:18:42 PM
RJ and Kade, good call with Author of Confusion. :metal That's a great tune and I very much considered sending it, but in the end wasn't sure what Tim would think of the vocal approach in literally all the vocal sections in that song. :lol

The first couple of minutes was enough for me to send it.  While the vocals were interesting, surprisingly I thought the whole damn thing was pretty good actually.  Not sure what Tim will think but it was cool enough for me to send.

425 did recommend it but I stumbled across it first and his cautious recommendation also was enough to send it.


I was thinking you heard the first 30 seconds and clicked Send. :lol

Okay, you got me.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 26, 2021, 12:19:07 PM
Ok well it hopefully sounds like I made a good judgement call there then. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2021, 12:21:29 PM
RJ and Kade, good call with Author of Confusion. :metal That's a great tune and I very much considered sending it, but in the end wasn't sure what Tim would think of the vocal approach in literally all the vocal sections in that song. :lol

The first couple of minutes was enough for me to send it.  While the vocals were interesting, surprisingly I thought the whole damn thing was pretty good actually.  Not sure what Tim will think but it was cool enough for me to send.

425 did recommend it but I stumbled across it first and his cautious recommendation also was enough to send it.


I was thinking you heard the first 30 seconds and clicked Send. :lol

Okay, you got me.  :lol

It was fucking obvious and was exactly what I was thinking when I listened to it.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 26, 2021, 12:22:04 PM
Holy crap! I totally missed that Into Fire was sent. I cannot wait for that write-up.

TAC, you probably need some backstory on that track if it was not provided.

"Dave says of this writing/recording session, "By far, that's the most fun I've ever had in the studio!". This was also recorded at Kevin's in April of '97 and was written and recorded in 4 hours. Ryo brought the charts (he had written the music that day) and while the rest of the band was cutting the track, I was in the corner scribbling down lines like "Throw yourself upon the flaming pyre". In the 3rd hour Dave, Ryo and I wrote the whole lyric. I remember Dave throwing in critical words when I was stuck like, 'tainted', to which came a resounding "ooohhhh, that's good!" from the rest of us, and the line "bathed in tainted blood" was born. collaboration at it's finest!

Note: that's Ryo on the top background vocal part. While Dave, Ryo and I were doing the backgrounds we were laughing so hard we were crying! Maybe you had to be there..."

Note: "Into Fire" is the result of JVC requesting a Heavy Metal song as a bonus track for the Japanese release of "The Kindness Of Strangers"
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 26, 2021, 12:23:41 PM
it's annoying the hell out of me that there's both an "In the Fire" and "Into Fire" in his discog, and both were sent in the same round, like c'mon man  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 26, 2021, 12:24:17 PM
RJ and Kade, good call with Author of Confusion. :metal That's a great tune and I very much considered sending it, but in the end wasn't sure what Tim would think of the vocal approach in literally all the vocal sections in that song. :lol

The first couple of minutes was enough for me to send it.  While the vocals were interesting, surprisingly I thought the whole damn thing was pretty good actually.  Not sure what Tim will think but it was cool enough for me to send.

425 did recommend it but I stumbled across it first and his cautious recommendation also was enough to send it.

Worth emphasizing the "cautious" part of that, lest I be accused of sending dubious recommendations! :lol I sent wolfking a list of options, including some I regard as safer, and said the following about Author of Confusion: "Author of Confusion is a quirky piece that has a lot of interweaving vocal parts, which IMO make it a risky submission, but it's one I'm really tempted to try."

And, also, I sent it myself! I wanted to use my wildcard to send two songs I thought of as risky for very different reasons along with the safe choice of The Call. So with it being both Cyril's wildcard and mine, we know that on the first listen, The Call, Broken Sky and In the Fire had a lead over Author of Confusion.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 26, 2021, 12:25:34 PM
it's annoying the hell out of me that there's both an "In the Fire" and "Into Fire" in his discog, and both were sent in the same round, like c'mon man  :lol

That's how I missed Into Fire. It blended together when skimming the list. It wasn't until someone brought it up later in the thread did I realize it was sent. On my second look, I thought you sent it. Confusing, indeed.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2021, 12:26:37 PM
Holy crap! I totally missed that Into Fire was sent. I cannot wait for that write-up.

TAC, you probably need some backstory on that track if it was not provided.

"Dave says of this writing/recording session, "By far, that's the most fun I've ever had in the studio!". This was also recorded at Kevin's in April of '97 and was written and recorded in 4 hours. Ryo brought the charts (he had written the music that day) and while the rest of the band was cutting the track, I was in the corner scribbling down lines like "Throw yourself upon the flaming pyre". In the 3rd hour Dave, Ryo and I wrote the whole lyric. I remember Dave throwing in critical words when I was stuck like, 'tainted', to which came a resounding "ooohhhh, that's good!" from the rest of us, and the line "bathed in tainted blood" was born. collaboration at it's finest! Note: that's Ryo on the top background vocal part. While Dave, Ryo and I were doing the backgrounds we were laughing so hard we were crying! Maybe you had to be there..." Note:

"Into Fire" is the result of JVC requesting a Heavy Metal song as a bonus track for the Japanese release of "The Kindness Of Strangers"



Well, I will give away one First Impression..

WTF? That’s Demon music.[Into Fire]
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 26, 2021, 12:27:35 PM
it's annoying the hell out of me that there's both an "In the Fire" and "Into Fire" in his discog, and both were sent in the same round, like c'mon man  :lol

I'd literally never heard of Into Fire until today. Apparently it's a Japanese bonus track and on the SB equivalent of Cleaning Out the Closet.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2021, 12:28:16 PM
it's annoying the hell out of me that there's both an "In the Fire" and "Into Fire" in his discog, and both were sent in the same round, like c'mon man  :lol

The funny thing is, it was sent to me as Into The Fire. I'm confused enough. :lol
I had to ask for clarification.


Plus, a Thoughts II AND a Thoughts V?

Also, a Broken Sky, a Crack The Big Sky, and not only that, but a Weathering Sky to boot.

Not to mention a Flow and a damn Overflow! :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 26, 2021, 12:37:06 PM
RJ and Kade, good call with Author of Confusion. :metal That's a great tune and I very much considered sending it, but in the end wasn't sure what Tim would think of the vocal approach in literally all the vocal sections in that song. :lol

The first couple of minutes was enough for me to send it.  While the vocals were interesting, surprisingly I thought the whole damn thing was pretty good actually.  Not sure what Tim will think but it was cool enough for me to send.

425 did recommend it but I stumbled across it first and his cautious recommendation also was enough to send it.

Worth emphasizing the "cautious" part of that, lest I be accused of sending dubious recommendations! :lol I sent wolfking a list of options, including some I regard as safer, and said the following about Author of Confusion: "Author of Confusion is a quirky piece that has a lot of interweaving vocal parts, which IMO make it a risky submission, but it's one I'm really tempted to try."

And, also, I sent it myself! I wanted to use my wildcard to send two songs I thought of as risky for very different reasons along with the safe choice of The Call. So with it being both Cyril's wildcard and mine, we know that on the first listen, The Call, Broken Sky and In the Fire had a lead over Author of Confusion.

I don't blame anyone mate.  I still think the whole thing was pretty cool and experimental.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 26, 2021, 12:47:30 PM
it's annoying the hell out of me that there's both an "In the Fire" and "Into Fire" in his discog, and both were sent in the same round, like c'mon man  :lol

The funny thing is, it was sent to me as Into The Fire. I'm confused enough. :lol
I had to ask for clarification.


Plus, a Thoughts II AND a Thoughts V?

Also, a Broken Sky, a Crack The Big Sky, and not only that, but a Weathering Sky to boot.

Not to mention a Flow and a damn Overflow! :lol

He likes "sky"

I'll add to the "Thoughts" confusion: There's a "Thoughts" and a "Thoughts Part 2" from when Neal was in Spock's Beard. Then Neal did "Thoughts Part 5" on a solo album. Then Spock's Beard did a song called "Afterthoughts" without Neal in the band, but co-written by Neal. But there's no Part 4.


Worth emphasizing the "cautious" part of that, lest I be accused of sending dubious recommendations! :lol I sent wolfking a list of options, including some I regard as safer, and said the following about Author of Confusion: "Author of Confusion is a quirky piece that has a lot of interweaving vocal parts, which IMO make it a risky submission, but it's one I'm really tempted to try."

And, also, I sent it myself! I wanted to use my wildcard to send two songs I thought of as risky for very different reasons along with the safe choice of The Call. So with it being both Cyril's wildcard and mine, we know that on the first listen, The Call, Broken Sky and In the Fire had a lead over Author of Confusion.

I don't blame anyone mate.  I still think the whole thing was pretty cool and experimental.

Didn't think you would, just didn't want to leave the impression out there. I like the song a lot, and I'm glad you thought it was cool.

Also, people were talking about no one having the courage to send Cockroach King, so I figured it'd be cool to send the Neal Morse equivalent—didn't know so many people had the same idea, sending both it and some of the Thoughts songs!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 26, 2021, 12:55:11 PM
Let's not forget that Thoughts Pt II is from the album V.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2021, 12:57:10 PM
Somehow I think these titles will be a piece of cake compared to the next round.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 26, 2021, 01:03:32 PM
What could possibly be confusing about The Willing Well III: Apollo II: The Telling Truth?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2021, 01:08:18 PM
What could possibly be confusing about The Willing Well III: Apollo II: The Telling Truth?

Well, I'd be willing to tell you the truth about Apollo too.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 26, 2021, 01:10:55 PM
Somehow I think these titles will be a piece of cake compared to the next round.

So will listening to the music.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 26, 2021, 01:24:24 PM
Somehow I think these titles will be a piece of cake compared to the next round.
what's not to love about:

In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3
Cuts Marked in the March of Men
The Camper Velourium II: Backend of Forever
Ten Speend (Of God's Blood & Burial)
The Lying Lies & Dirty Secrets of Miss Erica Court
The Willing Well III: Apollo II: The Telling Truth
The Hound (of Blood and Rank)
The End Complete IV: The Road and the Damned
Made Out of Nothing (All That I Am)
Key Entity Extraction II: Holly Wood the Cracked
The Pavilion (A Long Way Back)
Rise, Naianasha (Cut the Cord)

all perfectly normal song titles
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 26, 2021, 01:30:21 PM
You missed The End Complete III: The End Complete
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 26, 2021, 01:38:04 PM
The End Complete III: The End Complete, Part 2: The Willing Well V: The End Complete (Reprise)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 26, 2021, 01:38:57 PM
1st album: Has Second in the title
2nd abum: Has 3 in the title
3rd album: Has IV in the title
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 26, 2021, 01:41:32 PM
the 3rd and 4th album are both Part IV, and the fifth album is Part I
the sixth and seventh albums are a two-part prequel to Part I
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2021, 01:44:12 PM
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/4WA1gD7CKAPks/200w.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 26, 2021, 01:56:13 PM
Tim, next round.

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Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2021, 02:00:38 PM
This round..

(https://c.tenor.com/IWwsszhi8XMAAAAM/sleep-sleeping.gif)


Nah..just kidding.

I finally made it through all of the tracks. That's a lot of damn music. Including the ImpOmnipotent One's , it's 27 songs at over 3 and a half hours.


I'll compile First Impressions when I get a chance, but I have to put this down for a bit. My wife will be home shortly and we're getting our tree.

But overall, I have to say that this was pretty much what I expected. Real pleasant and finely crafted music. Some of it had some surprising punch to it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 26, 2021, 02:56:49 PM
Just imagine if a couple people had the stones to send you a REAL epic!  You could be at 4.5-5 hours easy.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 26, 2021, 03:05:07 PM
Just imagine if a couple people had the stones to send you a REAL epic!  You could be at 4.5-5 hours easy.
I considered sending World Without End and The Great Nothing, but that would have been a bad idea. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2021, 04:00:16 PM
That would've been a world of nothing without end.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 26, 2021, 04:40:00 PM
Better than a Kid Rock themed round. Lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 26, 2021, 05:02:42 PM
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HalfDirtyBongo-size_restricted.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 26, 2021, 05:04:51 PM
MY NAME IIIIISSSSSSS KIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDD!!!!!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2021, 05:06:15 PM
Oh fuck that completely!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 26, 2021, 05:07:58 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 26, 2021, 07:50:35 PM
Oh fuck that completely!

Yeah, I wouldn't be signing up to participate in that one.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: v_clortho on November 26, 2021, 07:59:12 PM
listening to "Into Fire" for the first time. Wow! Just wow! If I had to guess who was singing that I'd never in a million years have guess Neal Morse. Neal should either open or close every show with this song.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2021, 08:00:28 PM
listening to "Into Fire" for the first time. Wow! Just wow! If I had to guess who was singing that I'd never in a million years have guess Neal Morse. Neal should either open or close every show with this song.

I'm literally listening to it RIGHT NOW. :lol

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2021, 08:05:39 PM
So... Into Fire or Viper King??
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: v_clortho on November 26, 2021, 08:23:06 PM
So... Into Fire or Viper King??

Into Fire. Not even close. Holy crap that was amazing. My '80's high school self would have been all over that song. And my '20's middle aged self is loving that song. Neal needs to rejoin Spock's and do a whole album of that style. That would confuse so many people. How awesome would that be?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on November 26, 2021, 08:51:15 PM
Oh fuck that completely!

Fuck that completely indeed.  I lived in Michigan when Kid Rock, Eminem, and ICP all broke into the big time, and it was fucking awful.  Eminem clearly had skills, but fuck, Bawittaba or whatever the fuck it is called, was on every radio station almost all the time, and every wannabe tough guy white boy was playing that album nonstop. 
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 26, 2021, 08:53:26 PM
So... Into Fire or Viper King??

Into Fire. Not even close. Holy crap that was amazing. My '80's high school self would have been all over that song. And my '20's middle aged self is loving that song. Neal needs to rejoin Spock's and do a whole album of that style. That would confuse so many people. How awesome would that be?

And don't forget the tidbit that I posted where they wrote and recorded the whole thing in 4 hours! Get Dave, Ryo, NDV and Neal to do a whole album. Not sure Al would be in, but I bet Eric would gladly step in for the fun.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on November 26, 2021, 10:58:00 PM
Into Fire actually sounds like something Deep Purple would have done.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 27, 2021, 06:52:31 AM
Into Fire actually sounds like something Deep Purple would have done.

I hear a ton of Deep Purple in these songs. Deep Purple and The Beatles.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 27, 2021, 07:10:50 AM
I read about them on their 3rd album in a magazine and went out and bought their discography right away.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 27, 2021, 07:27:03 AM
I read about them on their 3rd album in a magazine and went out and bought their discography right away.

The Beatles?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 27, 2021, 07:54:06 AM
Lol. No.  Spock's Beard.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on November 27, 2021, 08:58:17 AM
I read about them on their 3rd album in a magazine and went out and bought their discography right away.

The Kindness of Strangers is the Spock’s album that, to me, is their most consistent, and is usually the album I go to if I want to listen them.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 27, 2021, 09:00:41 AM
where's worst first impressions?  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 27, 2021, 09:02:41 AM
I read about them on their 3rd album in a magazine and went out and bought their discography right away.

The Kindness of Strangers is the Spock’s album that, to me, is their most consistent, and is usually the album I go to if I want to listen them.

Same. I wish the production were better on it, but the songs are all strong and it doesn’t have anything that I skip, whereas most of the others tend to have at least one song I don’t love.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 27, 2021, 09:06:21 AM
where's worst first impressions?  :corn

I'm going out for a few hours, and I'll post them this evening when I get back.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 27, 2021, 09:40:47 AM
I read about them on their 3rd album in a magazine and went out and bought their discography right away.

"Day for Nightmare Cinema Show Me the Way to Get Back Home again" was what prompted me to listen to Day for Night.  By the following week, I'd had their discography (up to that point) as well.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 27, 2021, 09:47:51 AM
I saw SB open for DT on the SFAM tour. They were really fun to watch and the music was good too. Then I bought V, liked it, then I bought the rest.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 27, 2021, 09:55:27 AM
I saw SB open for DT on the SFAM tour. They were really fun to watch and the music was good too. Then I bought V, liked it, then I bought the rest.
[/quot

Dixie Dregs for me.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 27, 2021, 01:41:26 PM
First Impressions


Weathering Sky
Seemingly Sincere
Time Changer
I Am Your Father
Another Story To Tell
The Good Don't Last(Spock’s Beard)
The Call
Do It Again
Harm’s Way (Spock’s Beard)
Devil’s Got My Throat (Spock’s Beard)
Freedom Song
Thoughts Pt V
In The Fire
Author Of Confusion
Entrance
Crack The Big Sky (Spock’s Beard)
Overflow


This was pretty rocking and I loved the Deep Purple-ish outro.
Starts off as Styx, ends as DT. I don’t remember the middle.
You mean this isn’t a Deep Purple cover?
This started and I thought I was in a Disney song.[The Light (Spock’s Beard)]
This is easy on the ears, but it reminds me of latter day Rush.[Waste Away(Spock’s Beard)]
This song was quite active. It’ll need at least another listen.
Great closing solo.[My Shoes Revisited(Spock’s Beard)]
Those are some cheesy ass keyboards.[Bird On A Wire]
Kind of a heavy Beatles tune. Not into the Beatles though.
I liked how beefy this was in the beginning and the end, but it was a bit light in the middle.
That was a hell of a lot crammed into this relatively short song.[Thoughts Pt II (Spock’s Beard)]
This song was sneaky good. I think.
I have no idea why this song had to be this long.[Flow (Spock’s Beard)]
This gave me a Dire Straits feel, which is extremely ironic.
I expect this to be a grower. It better be.
This song kind of rocks but I don’t remember this being a Beach Boys round.
This is a nice classy song. Not sure how it’ll end up though.
Who’s this, Hall & Oates?
I swear that’s a JP solo in this.[Broken Sky/Long Day (Reprise)]
It’s long, but it keeps moving through its different sections.[At The End Of The Day (Spock’s Beard)]
Strong opening and ends really strong. It’s the 8 minutes in between that could use some help.
Wow, that is heavy.
This song took me about 4 minutes to fully engage.
WTF? That’s Demon music.[Into Fire]
This ends really strong. Took a while to get there though.
“Music has shown her the way. She lives today”



I'm sure these are all pretty vague. Just pick a song and 3 or 4 impressions it might be, and I'll award it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 27, 2021, 01:55:32 PM
I swear that’s a JP solo in this.
Definitely one of the Neal Morse Band songs. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 27, 2021, 02:06:00 PM
Great closing solo is Flow

and hell of a lot crammed into short song could be Thoughts Pt. II
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 27, 2021, 02:18:45 PM
Great closing solo is Flow

and hell of a lot crammed into short song could be Thoughts Pt. II

Great closing solo is My Shoes Revisited.

I’m afraid Flow is this one:

Strong opening and ends really strong. It’s the 8 minutes in between that could use some help.

Or this one:

I have no idea why this song had to be this long.

 :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 27, 2021, 02:22:43 PM
Ariich, Kwyjibo, HOF....nice job!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 27, 2021, 02:24:45 PM
I think cheesy keyboards is Bird on a Wire—at least, that's why I decided not to send it pretty early on.

Long but keeps moving through different sections could be The Light.

Edit: Yeah, Eric definitely channels JP a lot, including on Broken Sky.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 27, 2021, 02:26:53 PM
Okay, but Flow still has a great closing solo  :D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 27, 2021, 02:34:40 PM
I think cheesy keyboards is Bird on a Wire—at least, that's why I decided not to send it pretty early on.

Long but keeps moving through different sections could be The Light.


Yes and no.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 27, 2021, 02:40:42 PM
Okay, but Flow still has a great closing solo  :D

Yeah it does! Al is all over that track really.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 27, 2021, 03:05:31 PM
Disney, err... Freedom Song.

Knowing your love for Disney, this could be a good thing for His Omnipotence.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 27, 2021, 03:12:30 PM
Disney, err... Freedom Song.

Knowing your love for Disney, this could be a good thing for His Omnipotence.

Wrong! But close..
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 27, 2021, 07:45:36 PM
Two listens through. Have scratched together a rough ranking. I usually start that on the second listen though it does remain quite fluid. Nothing is set in stone at all at this point. But I think it's fair that a couple of tiers of songs have emerged.


And I must be the only fogey sitting at home doing nothing on a Saturday night because the First Impression guesses have been extremely slow tonight.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: v_clortho on November 27, 2021, 07:53:59 PM
I liked how beefy this was in the beginning and the end, but it was a bit light in the middle.

Is this for The Light? I'm guessing no, but you seemed to put an obvious clue in there.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 27, 2021, 07:55:27 PM
I liked how beefy this was in the beginning and the end, but it was a bit light in the middle.

Is this for The Light? I'm guessing no, but you seemed to put an obvious clue in there.

It's not. I usually don't put clues like that in my impressions.


But it is one of the most sent sngs.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 27, 2021, 08:00:19 PM
Curious if this is Waste Away (perhaps on account of the bass tone?):

This is easy on the ears, but it reminds me of latter day Rush.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 27, 2021, 08:01:30 PM
Ahem.

It’s long, but it keeps moving through its different sections
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 27, 2021, 08:02:20 PM
Curious if this is Waste Away (perhaps on account of the bass tone?):

This is easy on the ears, but it reminds me of latter day Rush.

You're good, Haironfire!




Ahem.

It’s long, but it keeps moving through its different sections


Where you guys been all night? :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: v_clortho on November 27, 2021, 08:02:49 PM
It’s long, but it keeps moving through its different sections.

This is probably The Light
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 27, 2021, 08:04:08 PM
I brewed a day. I'm gassed!  Ready for bed!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: v_clortho on November 27, 2021, 08:04:39 PM
I'm going to stop guessing now.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 27, 2021, 08:05:04 PM
It’s long, but it keeps moving through its different sections.

This is probably The Light

Kingshmegland got it above you.

But I'll give you The Light anyway.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: v_clortho on November 27, 2021, 08:13:39 PM
Okay one more.

Good don't last the Dire Straits one? Ironic because Dire Straits didn't last.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 27, 2021, 08:15:38 PM
Okay one more.

Good don't last the Dire Straits one? Ironic because Dire Straits didn't last.

Hah.. No. Actually there is a clue in that one, but it has to do with who sent it, as I know they're a big Dire Straits fan.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 27, 2021, 08:50:11 PM
dude i barely even remember what the two songs i sent you sound like do you think i could guess impressions from how many songs there are this round that i've never even heard of  :lol
the call was long and proggy and into the fire was like a groovy bass driven thing with like fifteen solos that's all i got
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 27, 2021, 08:51:32 PM
I barely remember what two songs you sent me too. :lol

 :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 27, 2021, 09:32:59 PM
you are not gonna hurt my feelings by giving two songs i pulled out of the ether bad scores  :hat

however if you give my coheed songs bad scores i -will- cry
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 28, 2021, 12:10:57 AM
Took about 4 minutes to fully engage could be Seemingly Sincere

and the Dire Straits one is Overflow?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 28, 2021, 04:56:24 AM
Took about 4 minutes to fully engage could be Seemingly Sincere

Actually, it takes about 5 minutes!   :lol

I just made the playlist of what I have (only missing 3 songs), so I'll offer up some more guesses later today.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 28, 2021, 05:27:57 AM
Strong opening and ends really strong. It’s the 8 minutes in between that could use some help. - Crack the Big Sky?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 28, 2021, 05:56:07 AM
Strong opening and ends really strong. It’s the 8 minutes in between that could use some help. - Crack the Big Sky?

Possibly... though my thought is At The End of the Day (edit... except that's already been identified).  If not CtBS, then perhaps Harm's Way - though the outro is nothing too special (imo).
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 28, 2021, 06:07:07 AM
My second?

This song was quite active. It’ll need at least another listen
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 28, 2021, 06:15:41 AM
Starts off as Styx, ends as DT. I don’t remember the middle.
- Has to be The Call

This song kind of rocks but I don’t remember this being a Beach Boys round.
- This is the only other description I can think fits Freedom Song

I liked how beefy this was in the beginning and the end, but it was a bit light in the middle.
- Devil's Got My Throat

Kind of a heavy Beatles tune. Not into the Beatles though.
- Do It All Again

Music has shown her the way. She lives today
- I had to Google what lyrics this was from, and given that ... I would've expected Thoughts, but that wasn't submitted.  Thoughts Part V?

Who’s this, Hall & Oates?
- Has to be Another Story To Tell

That's all I got for now.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 28, 2021, 06:33:16 AM
I'm not sure I would call Freedom song rocking, but I got no better guess.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 28, 2021, 07:01:44 AM
First Impressions


Time Changer
The Good Don't Last(Spock’s Beard)
Do It Again
Freedom Song
In The Fire
Author Of Confusion
Entrance



This was pretty rocking and I loved the Deep Purple-ish outro.
Starts off as Styx, ends as DT. I don’t remember the middle.[The Call]
You mean this isn’t a Deep Purple cover?[Devil’s Got My Throat (Spock’s Beard)]
This started and I thought I was in a Disney song.[The Light (Spock’s Beard)]
This is easy on the ears, but it reminds me of latter day Rush.[Waste Away(Spock’s Beard)]
This song was quite active. It’ll need at least another listen.[Thoughts Pt V]
Great closing solo.[My Shoes Revisited(Spock’s Beard)]
Those are some cheesy ass keyboards.[Bird On A Wire]
Kind of a heavy Beatles tune. Not into the Beatles though.[Weathering Sky]
I liked how beefy this was in the beginning and the end, but it was a bit light in the middle.
That was a hell of a lot crammed into this relatively short song.[Thoughts Pt II (Spock’s Beard)]
This song was sneaky good. I think.
I have no idea why this song had to be this long.[Flow (Spock’s Beard)]
This gave me a Dire Straits feel, which is extremely ironic.[Overflow]
I expect this to be a grower. It better be.
This song kind of rocks but I don’t remember this being a Beach Boys round.
This is a nice classy song. Not sure how it’ll end up though.
Who’s this, Hall & Oates?[Another Story To Tell]
I swear that’s a JP solo in this.[Broken Sky/Long Day (Reprise)]
It’s long, but it keeps moving through its different sections.[At The End Of The Day (Spock’s Beard)]
Strong opening and ends really strong. It’s the 8 minutes in between that could use some help.[Crack The Big Sky (Spock’s Beard)]
Wow, that is heavy.[I Am Your Father]
This song took me about 4 minutes to fully engage.[Harm’s Way (Spock’s Beard)]
WTF? That’s Demon music.[Into Fire]
This ends really strong. Took a while to get there though.[Seemingly Sincere]
“Music has shown her the way. She lives today”



I'm sure these are all pretty vague. Just pick a song and 3 or 4 impressions it might be, and I'll award it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 28, 2021, 07:04:06 AM
Took about 4 minutes to fully engage could be Seemingly Sincere

and the Dire Straits one is Overflow?


Yes on Overflow and very close but not SS.




Strong opening and ends really strong. It’s the 8 minutes in between that could use some help. - Crack the Big Sky?

Yes!



My second?

This song was quite active. It’ll need at least another listen

No!


I'm not sure I would call Freedom song rocking, but I got no better guess.

Neither would I! ;D



Starts off as Styx, ends as DT. I don’t remember the middle.
- Has to be The Call

This song kind of rocks but I don’t remember this being a Beach Boys round.
- This is the only other description I can think fits Freedom Song

I liked how beefy this was in the beginning and the end, but it was a bit light in the middle.
- Devil's Got My Throat

Kind of a heavy Beatles tune. Not into the Beatles though.
- Do It All Again

Music has shown her the way. She lives today
- I had to Google what lyrics this was from, and given that ... I would've expected Thoughts, but that wasn't submitted.  Thoughts Part V?

Who’s this, Hall & Oates?
- Has to be Another Story To Tell

That's all I got for now.

YNNNNY!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 28, 2021, 07:16:16 AM
This song kind of rocks but I don’t remember this being a Beach Boys round.

This one for Thoughts Pt V?

If not then this one:
Wow, that is heavy.

which could also be Devil's Got my Throat, maybe, or In the Fire

This song was quite active. It’ll need at least another listen.

This one could be In the Fire, or Thoughts V as well

:lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 28, 2021, 07:35:26 AM
You got one out your five guesses right. ;D



Two other hints,,

The Disney remark only refers to the very beginning of the songs, and

The "heavy" remark is a trick clue.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 28, 2021, 07:58:12 AM
You got one out your five guesses right. ;D



Two other hints,,

The Disney remark only refers to the very beginning of the songs, and

The "heavy" remark is a trick clue.

You already identified Disney as The Light??
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 28, 2021, 08:10:11 AM
This is a nice classy song. Not sure how it’ll end up though. - Weathering The Sky?

As I am starring at this right now, I can't wait for the next round.

(https://i.imgur.com/yyjdCCn.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 28, 2021, 08:17:49 AM
Tim can!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 28, 2021, 09:25:15 AM
Wow, that is heavy.
- Overflow
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 28, 2021, 10:06:32 AM
You mean this isn’t a Deep Purple cover?
- Devil's Got My Throat

Kind of a heavy Beatles tune. Not into the Beatles though.
- Weathering Sky

This was pretty rocking and I loved the Deep Purple-ish outro.
This ends really strong. Took a while to get there though.

- One is In The Fire; the other is Harm's Way

This song took me about 4 minutes to fully engage.
- If it's not Seemingly Sincere, then I'd guess it's Entrance
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 28, 2021, 10:32:10 AM
You mean this isn’t a Deep Purple cover?
- Devil's Got My Throat

Kind of a heavy Beatles tune. Not into the Beatles though.
- Weathering Sky


This ends really strong. Took a while to get there though.

 is Harm's Way

This song took me about 4 minutes to fully engage.
- it's  Seemingly Sincere,

Yes and yes...and swap the second two songs, which more or less have the same impression.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 28, 2021, 10:39:49 AM
"Wow, that is heavy" is Author of Confusion
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 28, 2021, 10:41:30 AM
"Wow, that is heavy" is Author of Confusion


Nope.




The "heavy" remark is a trick clue.

 ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on November 28, 2021, 10:43:20 AM
Well, then maybe it’s ‘I am Your Father’
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 28, 2021, 10:43:46 AM
Well, then maybe it’s ‘I am Your Father’

Well, then maybe it is!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 28, 2021, 11:45:51 AM
Well, then maybe it’s ‘I am Your Father’

Well, then maybe it is!

I was going off of TAC being a fan of the songs that tell a story in the UFO thread. I orginally was going to send Broken Homes, but when my score tanked I decided to go with the song that I prefer off the album. Both are sad songs, but I Am Your Father is so powerful.

Side note: Neal wrote this song in his pre-Beard days when he had another band. He actually invited all of the members of that band to perform on the version he recorded for this album. Pretty cool backstory.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 28, 2021, 12:15:09 PM
Are those songs from a concept album?





I was going off of TAC being a fan of the songs that tell a story in the UFO thread.

 :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: LudwigVan on November 28, 2021, 12:20:12 PM
You're not gonna get more epic story-telling than Coheed & Cambria.

But I get the sense that lyrical content means diddly to TAC if he hates the music.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 28, 2021, 12:28:59 PM
Are those songs from a concept album?





I was going off of TAC being a fan of the songs that tell a story in the UFO thread.

 :metal

No concept on It's Not Too Late (maybe a loose one based on the quote I just found). It was a bunch of older songs that Neal had laying around and he finally decided to record them. Just so happened that many were not the happiest. Ah, taken right from his website:

"It's Not Too Late" is a fine collection of songs about loss and renewal.

Broken Homes is pretty bleak and self-explanatory. Leah is about a mother abandoning her young daughter. You get the picture.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 28, 2021, 12:29:26 PM
You're not gonna get more epic story-telling than Coheed & Cambria.

But I get the sense that lyrical content means diddly to TAC if he hates the music.  :biggrin:



It's hard to tell, really. In a vacuum of a roulette round, you never know what can happen.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 28, 2021, 12:59:30 PM
You're not gonna get more epic story-telling than Coheed & Cambria.

But I get the sense that lyrical content means diddly to TAC if he hates the music.  :biggrin:



It's hard to tell, really. In a vacuum of a roulette round, you never know what can happen.

I wish I had the balls to send tac some of Coheed's softer songs, but that would be a risky move.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 28, 2021, 01:01:05 PM
Are those songs from a concept album?





I was going off of TAC being a fan of the songs that tell a story in the UFO thread.

 :metal

No concept on It's Not Too Late (maybe a loose one based on the quote I just found). It was a bunch of older songs that Neal had laying around and he finally decided to record them. Just so happened that many were not the happiest. Ah, taken right from his website:

"It's Not Too Late" is a fine collection of songs about loss and renewal.

Broken Homes is pretty bleak and self-explanatory. Leah is about a mother abandoning her young daughter. You get the picture.

I wanted to send The Wind + The Rain off that one. I really like those first two solo albums (the first one especially is more or less a Spock’s Beard album).
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 28, 2021, 01:01:57 PM
You're not gonna get more epic story-telling than Coheed & Cambria.

But I get the sense that lyrical content means diddly to TAC if he hates the music.  :biggrin:



It's hard to tell, really. In a vacuum of a roulette round, you never know what can happen.

I wish I had the balls to send tac some of Coheed's softer songs, but that would be a risky move.

I'm a metal fan, but sending me the heaviest track usually doesn't work either.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 28, 2021, 06:36:38 PM
First Impressions

This was pretty rocking and I loved the Deep Purple-ish outro.[In The Fire]
Starts off as Styx, ends as DT. I don’t remember the middle.[The Call]
You mean this isn’t a Deep Purple cover?[Devil’s Got My Throat (Spock’s Beard)]
This started and I thought I was in a Disney song.[The Light (Spock’s Beard)]
This is easy on the ears, but it reminds me of latter day Rush.[Waste Away(Spock’s Beard)]
This song was quite active. It’ll need at least another listen.[Thoughts Pt V]
Great closing solo.[My Shoes Revisited(Spock’s Beard)]
Those are some cheesy ass keyboards.[Bird On A Wire]
Kind of a heavy Beatles tune. Not into the Beatles though.[Weathering Sky]
I liked how beefy this was in the beginning and the end, but it was a bit light in the middle.[Author Of Confusion]
That was a hell of a lot crammed into this relatively short song.[Thoughts Pt II (Spock’s Beard)]
This song was sneaky good. I think.[Entrance]
I have no idea why this song had to be this long.[Flow (Spock’s Beard)]
This gave me a Dire Straits feel, which is extremely ironic.[Overflow]
I expect this to be a grower. It better be.[Do It Again]
This song kind of rocks but I don’t remember this being a Beach Boys round.[Time Changer]
This is a nice classy song. Not sure how it’ll end up though. [The Good Don't Last(Spock’s Beard)]
Who’s this, Hall & Oates?[Another Story To Tell]
I swear that’s a JP solo in this.[Broken Sky/Long Day (Reprise)]
It’s long, but it keeps moving through its different sections.[At The End Of The Day (Spock’s Beard)]
Strong opening and ends really strong. It’s the 8 minutes in between that could use some help.[Crack The Big Sky (Spock’s Beard)]
Wow, that is heavy.[I Am Your Father]
This song took me about 4 minutes to fully engage.[Harm’s Way (Spock’s Beard)]
WTF? That’s Demon music.[Into Fire]
This ends really strong. Took a while to get there though.[Seemingly Sincere]
“Music has shown her the way. She lives today”[Freedom Song]



Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 28, 2021, 07:47:02 PM
So..

Finishing up third listens..

The average scores per round so far:

Devin Townsend:8.00
Haken: 7.80
BTBAM:7.75

I expect this round to have the highest average score. Way more 8's than 7's I think. Tons of great stuff here. We'll see. I begin my fourth listens tomorrow and I'll be scratching out writeups as I go. Hopefully I can bang out 10 or so per day for the next three days.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 28, 2021, 07:57:57 PM
Actually shocking to hear but it makes me very happy!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 28, 2021, 08:04:57 PM
waiting in anticipation to squeak out my highest score of the roulette with two songs i've listened to like one and a half times
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 28, 2021, 08:14:59 PM
waiting in anticipation to squeak out my highest score of the roulette with two songs i've listened to like one and a half times

It's quite likely.. :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 28, 2021, 11:22:13 PM
Actually shocking to hear but it makes me very happy!

Honestly, I’m not shocked at all.  There’s lots of great stuff in Neal’s musical exicon, and Tim does have an open mind for great stuff - no matter what the genre or style.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 29, 2021, 04:13:07 PM
Banged out 9 writeups this afternoon.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 29, 2021, 04:16:35 PM
Like a teenager.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 29, 2021, 06:01:50 PM
I must say that some of the keyboard sounds in this playlist sound like they come from one of these..

(https://www.toysrus.com.cn/dw/image/v2/BDGJ_PRD/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-master-catalog-toysrus/default/dwed78022a/2/7/b/8/27b83faca11aa4df2fdf81329cb5c3396b7a5256_35505_i1.jpg?sw=500&sh=500)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 29, 2021, 06:27:22 PM
So I was just listening to Entrance, and Neal's vocal reminded me a bit of Matt Smith. Knowing their religious styled music, I thought it would be awesome if they worked together.
And then I remembered...

They did!! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpHmSdVAzKg)

..along with the great Daniel Heiman! :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 29, 2021, 06:46:36 PM
So I was just listening to Entrance, and Neal's vocal reminded me a bit of Matt Smith. Knowing their religious styled music, I thought it would be awesome if they worked together.
And then I remembered...

They did!! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpHmSdVAzKg)

..along with the great Daniel Heiman! :metal

You didn’t know about this one??
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 29, 2021, 06:51:16 PM
Of course I did, fool. I bought it immediately and pimped the hell out of it. I haven't listened to it or watched the video in a while, and I had literally forgot about Neal Morse's involvement in it. His vocal on Entrance made me think of Matt Smith's lower register, and I was thinking it would be great if they could work together..Then I remembered!

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 30, 2021, 05:07:16 AM
Of course I did, fool. I bought it immediately and pimped the hell out of it. I haven't listened to it or watched the video in a while, and I had literally forgot about Neal Morse's involvement in it. His vocal on Entrance made me think of Matt Smith's lower register, and I was thinking it would be great if they could work together..Then I remembered!

(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/400x/39081391.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 30, 2021, 01:51:24 PM
5 more songs to writeup, and I have to admit..my ears are getting tired. :lol


One band that I've been constantly thinking of while listening is Shooting Star. And early 80's band that some of the fogeys might remember. They were kind of a Kansas "Lite", but I really loved them.

@Ariich, did I send them to you in the Fogey Roulette? If I didn't, I had them ready.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 30, 2021, 02:09:32 PM
5 more songs to writeup, and I have to admit..my ears are getting tired. :lol


One band that I've been constantly thinking of while listening is Shooting Star. And early 80's band that some of the fogeys might remember. They were kind of a Kansas "Lite", but I really loved them.

@Ariich, did I send them to you in the Fogey Roulette? If I didn't, I had them ready.
Nah you didn't, haven't heard of them but keep them in the bank for next roulette! :P
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 30, 2021, 02:38:54 PM
(https://c.tenor.com/quzTx4yNiuAAAAAM/good-night.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 30, 2021, 02:39:43 PM
 :corn :corn :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 30, 2021, 02:41:43 PM
(https://c.tenor.com/quzTx4yNiuAAAAAM/good-night.gif)

I dunno what you're talking about.  I spun that playlist yesterday, and it's magnificent.

Everyone - good job!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 30, 2021, 02:46:11 PM
Welp....guess I better start digging into C&C
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 30, 2021, 02:54:39 PM
Welp....guess I better start digging into C&C Music Factory

Don't make this mistake.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on November 30, 2021, 03:09:56 PM
Welp....guess I better start digging into C&C

I have been putting it off as long as possible.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 30, 2021, 03:14:10 PM
Welp....guess I better start digging into C&C Music Factory

Don't make this mistake.

It's invariably better on the ears.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 30, 2021, 03:24:41 PM
revenge is sweet  :hat
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 30, 2021, 03:43:37 PM
Welp....guess I better start digging into C&C

You still have a couple of days. I still have to fine tune the rankings and assign scores. Then I have to format the results and standings posts. So Morsulsts are still on pace for Thursday.






(https://c.tenor.com/quzTx4yNiuAAAAAM/good-night.gif)

I dunno what you're talking about.  I spun that playlist yesterday, and it's magnificent.

Everyone - good job!

I'm worn out, honestly. This round was pleasant but somehow it turned on me. :lol It's a huge amount of songs to get through in one clip. I liked a ton of this, but I'm not sure I loved much of it. It could still be a fairly high scoring round though. I'm going to start on that tonight.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 30, 2021, 03:49:33 PM
I'm worn out, honestly. This round was pleasant but somehow it turned on me. :lol It's a huge amount of songs to get through in one clip. I liked a ton of this, but I'm not sure I loved much of it. It could still be a fairly high scoring round though. I'm going to start on that tonight.
He does have a lot of long songs so it was a lengthy playlist.

Other than maybe Opeth, I'd have thought the remaining rounds probably won't be as long. But I guess that might depend on the extent of duplicate entries. (EDIT: Actually I guess PT could potentially be long as well but I imagine people wouldn't think to send you most of their long songs)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 30, 2021, 04:05:13 PM
This was the longest, but they've all been running about 3 hours. But for some reason, the Devin and Haken three hours went by quicker that the BTBAM and NM three hours.

I do feel like I got a fair bit of variety with these songs, but I feel like I tried to like them more than I actually do. I don't know for sure.
I don't mean to convey that I'm down on them, though I'm sure it's coming across that way.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 30, 2021, 04:06:56 PM
I predict you'll be in a musically induced coma from the PT/SW round.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 30, 2021, 04:09:26 PM
If the PT/SW round goes the way I think it will he might only have like 10 songs to sort through at most
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on November 30, 2021, 04:14:41 PM
I wonder if someone will send Anesthetize  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on November 30, 2021, 04:16:44 PM
If the PT/SW round goes the way I think it will he might only have like 10 songs to sort through at most

That's still enough to make me want to hang myself.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 30, 2021, 04:17:18 PM
If the PT/SW round goes the way I think it will he might only have like 10 songs to sort through at most

Perfect!

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 30, 2021, 06:33:05 PM
I wonder if someone will send Anesthetize  :corn

Speaking of C&C Music Factory:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9e/ThingsThatMakeYouGoHmmmC%2BC.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 30, 2021, 06:40:12 PM
How 'bout we don't speak of them? :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 30, 2021, 06:44:07 PM
I wonder if someone will send Anesthetize  :corn

I'm tempted, it's such a tremendous track. Bigger question is how many send Arriving Somewhere but not HERE.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 30, 2021, 06:57:33 PM
No one's sending that one because Deadwing's banned.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 30, 2021, 06:58:38 PM
I wonder if someone will send Anesthetize  :corn

I'm tempted, it's such a tremendous track. Bigger question is how many send Arriving Somewhere but not HERE.

I believe that's banned. Deadwing is banned. I do remember liking that song though.


EDIT: what 425 said.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 30, 2021, 07:04:48 PM
Not from Deadwing.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 30, 2021, 07:06:51 PM
I wonder if someone will send Anesthetize  :corn

I'm tempted, it's such a tremendous track.

What do you got to lose, man? :lol If I sat at the bottom of the standings, I'd torture the host too.  :lol


Not from Deadwing.

Well, it's still banned. I already said I liked it. I think the kid that made me a copy of Deadwing made me a PT mix CD. I definitely remember liking that one too.


@ Cyril, I think that's why I probably thought Blackest Eyes was banned.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 30, 2021, 07:10:29 PM
TIM: Only Deadwing not allowed.

JOE: Not on Deadwing

TIM: You silly mortal.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 30, 2021, 07:11:49 PM
Arriving Somewhere But Not Here definitely is on Deadwing.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 30, 2021, 07:13:38 PM
Talking about Anesthetize.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 30, 2021, 07:14:14 PM
YOU'RE banned from Deadwing.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 30, 2021, 07:16:15 PM
Talking about Anesthetize.

Okay, but Arriving Somewhere But Not Here is the one TAC was saying is banned, I believe.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 30, 2021, 07:18:05 PM
I think Arriving Somewhere But Not Here might be banned, guys.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 30, 2021, 07:20:06 PM
Joe, no wonder you can't spell. It's cuz you can't read. Follow the thread! :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 30, 2021, 07:21:01 PM
What?  Wait?  It's on Deadwing? :lol

Joe, no wonder you can't spell. It's cuz you can't read. Follow the thread! :lol

Why don't you have a below average beer bub.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 30, 2021, 07:23:25 PM
Why don't you listen to your below average Rush albums?

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on November 30, 2021, 07:31:46 PM
It's banned?



Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 30, 2021, 07:32:11 PM
You don't say.

(https://i.postimg.cc/vmQKCtfv/Screenshot-20211130-213058-Google.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w1GFmJWt)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on November 30, 2021, 07:34:28 PM
Is Rush banned in the Porcupine Tree round?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 30, 2021, 07:35:42 PM
Is Rush banned in the Porcupine Tree round?

From Moving Pictures on. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 30, 2021, 07:38:04 PM
Oh I don't know. Let's just ask bestalbumsever.com.  Apparently it's the be all end all of Rush nerd-dom.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 30, 2021, 07:42:32 PM
That's a site? :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on November 30, 2021, 07:46:08 PM
It's a shite!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on November 30, 2021, 07:48:31 PM
 :lol

Well, even Superman has his weaknesses.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on November 30, 2021, 11:06:52 PM
So everything not on Deadwing is not banned, right?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on November 30, 2021, 11:11:06 PM
Deadwing is amazing.  Easily my favourite from PT but I'm only a very casual fan.

Although I think I'm sending Arriving Somewhere but not Here.  That's a great song.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on November 30, 2021, 11:19:39 PM
Deadwing is amazing.  Easily my favourite from PT but I'm only a very casual fan.

Although I think I'm sending Arriving Somewhere but not Here.  That's a great song.

you can't send deadwing, it's from arriving somewhere but not here
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2021, 12:47:24 AM
Deadwing is amazing.  Easily my favourite from PT but I'm only a very casual fan.

Although I think I'm sending Arriving Somewhere but not Here.  That's a great song.

you can't send deadwing, it's from arriving somewhere but not here

Ah okay.  I'll send Arriving But Not Here then.  That song is killer.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 01, 2021, 01:59:43 AM
What's all this talk about Arriving Somewhere But Not Here? I thought Deadwing was banned.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 01, 2021, 02:19:38 AM
Somewing But Arriving from Deadwhere is banned
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on December 01, 2021, 03:35:59 AM
Deadwing is amazing.  Easily my favourite from PT but I'm only a very casual fan.

Although I think I'm sending Arriving Somewhere but not Here.  That's a great song.

you can't send deadwing, it's from arriving somewhere but not here

Ah okay.  I'll send Arriving But Not Here then.  That song is killer.

 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 01, 2021, 03:48:58 AM
I wonder where exactly all those people arrive, that arrive somewhere but not here?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2021, 04:20:22 AM
I wonder where exactly all those people arrive, that arrive somewhere but not here?

Who knows, but it ain't here.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2021, 04:22:05 AM
If the PT/SW round goes the way I think it will he might only have like 10 songs to sort through at most

That's a HUGE call.  I'd bet there will be way more than 10.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 01, 2021, 10:25:42 AM
I wonder where exactly all those people arrive, that arrive somewhere but not here?
in deadwing, kansas
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Stadler on December 01, 2021, 10:34:51 AM
Instead of actually listening to him, can I send something that Wilson produced or remixed? :) :) :)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 01, 2021, 10:39:17 AM
What's funny about this roulette is that it is still all new and random to me, so you could take the biggest Neal Morse fan, and they could easily get a much worse score than someone who just spitballed a couple of tracks.

 :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 01, 2021, 10:47:00 AM
 :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on December 01, 2021, 11:19:35 AM
Instead of actually listening to him, can I send something that Wilson produced or remixed? :) :) :)

Only in the Opeth round!

But I do think Wilson is a better producer/mixer than songwriter/performer. Going through both PT and solo stuff for this roulette was a reminder of that.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 01, 2021, 01:18:34 PM
Double-down and send Bleak in the Opeth round. Steven sings the chorus on that track.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 01, 2021, 01:27:11 PM
Double-down and send Bleak in the Opeth round. Steven sings the chorus on that track.

I honestly never noticed that. :lol He doesn't sound too different from Mikael there, especially with the wall of sound going on.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 01, 2021, 02:12:45 PM
Double-down and send Bleak in the Opeth round. Steven sings the chorus on that track.

I honestly never noticed that. :lol He doesn't sound too different from Mikael there, especially with the wall of sound going on.

You're not the first I turned on to that fact. Steven sings the main line and then Mikael does the callback or whatever you want to call it. Then they harmonize together eventually.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2021, 02:19:42 PM
Double-down and send Bleak in the Opeth round. Steven sings the chorus on that track.

I honestly never noticed that. :lol He doesn't sound too different from Mikael there, especially with the wall of sound going on.

Fuck I never noticed that either.  Mind = Blown!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on December 01, 2021, 02:26:40 PM
Double-down and send Bleak in the Opeth round. Steven sings the chorus on that track.

I honestly never noticed that. :lol He doesn't sound too different from Mikael there, especially with the wall of sound going on.

Fuck I never noticed that either.  Mind = Blown!

ME EITHER (cuz i don't listen to anything by either band)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 01, 2021, 02:54:05 PM
Did this years ago at the MP forum. It blew people's minds then too. I caught it immediately when I heard it.

SW: Devious movements in your eyes
MA: Moved me from relief
SW: Breath comes out white clouds with your lies
MA: And filters through me

Both:
You're close to the final word
You're staring right past me in dismay
A liquid seeps from your chest
MA: And drains me away

SW: Mist ripples round your thin white neck
MA: And draws me a line
SW: Cold fingers mark this dying wreck
MA: This moment is mine
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2021, 02:55:49 PM
Jesus!  I'll listen along with that tonight.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 01, 2021, 04:01:32 PM
Jesus!  I'll listen along with that tonight.

I won’t.  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 01, 2021, 04:05:01 PM
Jesus!  I'll listen along with that tonight.

I won’t.  ;D
But I can almost guarantee you will in the Opeth round! :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on December 01, 2021, 04:20:47 PM
I'm surprised so many people didn't notice that. Stood out to me the very first time I listened to Blackwater Park as clearly SW.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on December 01, 2021, 04:29:00 PM
I'm surprised so many people didn't notice that. Stood out to me the very first time I listened to Blackwater Park as clearly SW.
I got BWP (in 2001) a few years before I'd even heard of PT or Wilson (around the time of Deadwing).
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 01, 2021, 04:51:25 PM
Jesus!  I'll listen along with that tonight.

I won’t.  ;D
But I can almost guarantee you will in the Opeth round! :neverusethis:
I -can- guarantee he will  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 01, 2021, 05:32:27 PM
Bleak is an awesome song so yeah if nobody sends it that'd be a massive shame.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 01, 2021, 05:34:16 PM
To be clear I am saying i did send it, almost a month ago  :lol

My other Opeth pick is very obvious too but when you ban their best album this is what happens
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 01, 2021, 07:49:14 PM
So the scores are tallied.

Scores by round:

Devin Townsend:8.0
Haken:7.8
BTBAM:7.75
Neal Morse:7.95


Also, I will share one result tonight!

I will point out that 13 of you are above this score and 4 of you are below it.



Omnipotent One

Seemingly Sincere...8.0

This ends really strong. Took a while to get there though.

The beginning of this reminded me of Slade’s Keep Your Hands Off My Power Supply.
This stays pretty steady for the first few minutes. It feels like it’s building though. The guitar at 5:03 brings this up a bit.  The next step up is at 7:50 as the previous section runs out. This song is too long though, and it feels like it’s one section over and over again.

Freedom Song...7.3

“Music has shown her the way. She lives today”

Interesting song from the Omnipotent One. I would have to think that there were about 100 better songs. Maybe he’s the Impotent One..
8.0+7.3=15.3/2=7.65



I'm sure he's thinking...

(https://i.imgflip.com/5wan4l.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on December 01, 2021, 08:48:36 PM
Says the guy that gave an Enya song a perfect 10.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on December 01, 2021, 09:56:49 PM
I figured Freedom Song was not going to be a TAC hit. :lol I say if you're going to send a song in that style, go big and send Sing It High.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 02, 2021, 01:03:53 AM
I'm surprised so many people didn't notice that. Stood out to me the very first time I listened to Blackwater Park as clearly SW.

This, it seemed so obvious to me, but then I've heard a lot of Porcupine Tree before discovering Opeth.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on December 02, 2021, 01:24:09 AM
re: the Bleak discussion; I knew it, have known for years. I knew Blackwater Park before I had ever heard a single Porcupine Tree song though, so it was only after I discovered PT that I thought.. wait a minute, that's the same singer! And indeed it was :)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on December 02, 2021, 05:04:45 AM
Like I said, when a song by Enya scores 10/10, you never know what might just 'click'.  Freedom Song can be an ear worm ... clearly not a good one in this case.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 02, 2021, 05:59:14 AM
Like I said, when a song by Enya scores 10/10, you never know what might just 'click'.  Freedom Song can be an ear worm ... clearly not a good one in this case.


Quit wining!

It’s not like you sent it…..












……or did you?


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Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on December 02, 2021, 06:58:28 AM
Quit wining!

I'm not sure if I'm whining, or winning... where exactly is the typo in that word?  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Stadler on December 02, 2021, 07:00:34 AM
Quit wining!

I'm not sure if I'm whining, or winning... where exactly is the typo in that word?  :lol

I thought it was winking.    ;)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 02, 2021, 07:14:30 AM
I've infected Tim.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 02, 2021, 07:20:28 AM
Quit wining!

I'm not sure if I'm whining, or winning... where exactly is the typo in that word?  :lol

Add an H for hoser.




I've infected Tim.

Nope. I got mah boostah!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 02, 2021, 07:24:19 AM
 :lol

Me too so.........
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 02, 2021, 12:08:52 PM
Morsults!


Romdrums

Harm’s Way (Spock’s Beard)....8.2

This song took me about 4 minutes to fully engage.

After a brief intro, I liked the first verses. Ah, is this the Medicate section from Octavarium? There’s a classy solo that starts around 4:00. These first few minutes are a slow build I think. After a soft spot, the song really comes alive at 6:49. I must say that the chorus is kind of a dud in this song. It’s feels like a mood killer in a way. I generally like the song though.

Waste Away(Spock’s Beard)....7.4

This is easy on the ears, but it reminds me of latter day Rush.

This is a fairly to the point song. Nothing wrong with that, but I think there are way more interesting songs in this round. I hear some latter day Rush in this..Test For Echo era maybe. Not my favorite vocal either.
8.2+7.4=15.6/2=7.8


Stadler

Weathering Sky....7.3

Kind of a heavy Beatles tune. Not into the Beatles though.

I honestly don’t have a lot to say about this song. It’s peasant enough and to the point. 

Bird On A Wire.....7.8

Those are some cheesy ass keyboards.

Those keyboards at the beginning. Wow..what sound is that? The “I have a fire” part feels so 80’s to me. This reminds me a little of Shooting Star, and that’s not a bad thing. I like whole whole mid section going from the key solo to the guitar solo. Nice flutter at 4:44 to extend the section. Very cool. Ultimately, this song is a bit keyboard heavy for me, but that instrumental section is fantastic.
7.3+7.8=15.1/2=7.55



Buddy

The Call....8.3

Starts off as Styx, ends as DT. I don’t remember the middle.

After the Styx style intro, there’s a great JP solo again in the beginning. The verse/chorus is pretty unexciting, but things kick it up at 4:06. Nice vocal section at 4:52. Cool bass part and awesome MP drum fill. This whole instrumental section is excellent. Great solos all the way around. Instrumentally, I like long sections, but the vocal sections in this song are fairy weak, and it makes the song feel long.


Bird On A Wire...7.8

Those are some cheesy ass keyboards.

Those keyboards at the beginning. Wow..what sound is that? The “I have a fire” part feels so 80’s to me. This reminds me a little of Shooting Star, and that’s not a bad thing. I like whole whole mid section going from the key solo to the guitar solo. Nice flutter at 4:44 to extend the section. Very cool. Ultimately, this song is a bit keyboard heavy for me, but that instrumental section is fantastic.
8.3+7.8=16.1/2=8.05



425

The Call...8.3

Starts off as Styx, ends as DT. I don’t remember the middle.

After the Styx style intro, there’s a great JP solo again in the beginning. The verse/chorus is pretty unexciting, but things kick it up at 4:06. Nice vocal section at 4:52. Cool bass part and awesome MP drum fill. This whole instrumental section is excellent. Great solos all the way around. Instrumentally, I like long sections, but the vocal sections in this song are fairy weak, and it makes the song feel long.

Broken Sky/Long Day...8.6

I swear that’s a JP solo in this.

A mellow tune, but it’s really great. Might be my favorite vocal in the round. This is really a beautiful track. That’s not JP on the solo?? I like the part at 5:52 where the keyboards raise it up a bit right before the Long Day section. And the Long Day section is really great. More JP at the end!! I’d like to explore what was going on before these tracks. Fantastic and a favorite from the first listen.
8.3+8.6=16.9/2=8.45



Lonestar

Time Changer....7.4

This song kind of rocks but I don’t remember this being a Beach Boys round.

Cool bass led intro on this. Not crazy about the Time Changer vocal section, but damn the instrumentation is great. MP with some double bass, and some Rush type feels. I must say though that the song loses a bit of steam about halfway through. Too bad.

Author Of Confusion...7.4

I liked how beefy this was in the beginning and the end, but it was a bit light in the middle.

This song sure starts out chunky but goes mid tempo which really drags it out. Thankfully at 3:15, it picks up. I feel like this would be a good song for Ian Gillan. I understand the effects and reasons of the backing vocals, but I’m not a fan of it. The song kind of disappears for a bit in the middle. The thing is, even the beefy bits aren’t that interesting and they’re repetitive.
7.4+7.4=14.8/2=7.4



Professor

At The End Of The Day (Spock’s Beard)....8.2

It’s long, but it keeps moving through its different sections.
I like the orchestration of the intro, and the first couple of verses/choruses are pretty easy on the ears. I like the transition at 4:00. I like the short solo at 8:16. The next half dozen minutes shows the band weaving in and out of different sections, and I never feel like it meanders. I like the drumming in this song, switching from hi-hat to ride in all the right spots. This is a high quality track. Not my favorite, but there’s really not much to pick on.

I Am Your Father....7.9

Wow, that is heavy.

What a brilliant vocal. And amazing chorus. I love how the verse seemingly transitions into the chorus. It’s a really powerful technique. Really moving, but I have to say that lyrically, it’s a bit unfulfilling.
8.2+7.9=16.1/2=8.05


Ariich

The Call...8.3

Starts off as Styx, ends as DT. I don’t remember the middle.

After the Styx style intro, there’s a great JP solo again in the beginning. The verse/chorus is pretty unexciting, but things kick it up at 4:06. Nice vocal section at 4:52. Cool bass part and awesome MP drum fill. This whole instrumental section is excellent. Great solos all the way around. Instrumentally, I like long sections, but the vocal sections in this song are fairly weak, and it makes the song feel long.


Another Story To Tell....7.4

Hall & Oates round Yay! I did have some snarky comments that I decided to drop, but suffice to say that this was a miss. It's pleasant and all, and better than a couple of other tracks, but I'm disappointed with it.
8.3+7.4=15.7/2=7.85


HOF

Flow (Spock’s Beard)...7.5

I have no idea why this song had to be this long.

This song has a great feel to it. I love the lead guitar notes all over the first few minutes of this song. The vocal sections are nice enough, and I find the whole thing nice and kind of chill. The instrumental bit at 6:00 is cool. Great drumming and bass. Is that a YYZ drum fill at 6:21? The vocal part at 7:33 is a nice wind down of the song. Such a great ending just before 8:40.
WUT? It’s not over??  If the song ended right then and there, it’s would’ve been perfect. I feel like the song climaxed. The rest? It’s like laying with your girl after sex, when all you really want to do is get back to the game.

My Shoes Revisited(Spock’s Beard)....7.8

Great closing solo.
Revisited? Is this the end of a larger part? It kind of feels that way, and I think it ultimately hurts this submission. But somehow, this song is still pretty strong. Still that solo is phenomenal.
7.4+7.8=15.2/2=7.6


Kingshmegland

At the End of the Day (Spock’s Beard)....8.2

It’s long, but it keeps moving through its different sections.

I like the orchestration of the intro, and the first couple of verses/choruses are pretty easy on the ears. I like the transition at 4:00. I like the short solo at 8:16. The next half dozen minutes shows the band weaving in and out of different sections, and I never feel like it meanders. I like the drumming in this song, switching from hi-hat to ride in all the right spots. This is a high quality track. Not my favorite, but there’s really not much to pick on.


The Good Don't Last(Spock’s Beard)...7.5

This is a nice classy song. Not sure how it’ll end up though.

Sounds a lot like Styx in the beginning, especially when the acoustic guitar starts. Enjoyable parts throughout, and a nice solo towards the end. This song is pleasant to listen to. It’s kind of middle of the road here. Nothing I don’t like, but not necessarily anything that totally pulls me in though.
8.2+7.5=15.7/2=7.85
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 02, 2021, 12:09:17 PM
Cyril
The Call...8.3

Starts off as Styx, ends as DT. I don’t remember the middle.

After the Styx style intro, there’s a great JP solo again in the beginning. The verse/chorus is pretty unexciting, but things kick it up at 4:06. Nice vocal section at 4:52. Cool bass part and awesome MP drum fill. This whole instrumental section is excellent. Great solos all the way around. Instrumentally, I like long sections, but the vocal sections in this song are fairy weak, and it makes the song feel long.

In the Fire...8.6

This was pretty rocking and I loved the Deep Purple-ish outro.

This song is like one big jam session. I love the instrumental sections. Has a real Deep purple/Rainbow feel to some of them. This must be fantastic live. It’s heavy in it’s own way. The vocals have a 70’s Classic Rock feel to them. That transition at 6:10 is amazing with the keyboard solo that follows. I could easily listen to an album of this all day long.
8.3+8.6=16.9/2=8.45


LudwigVan

The Call...8.3

Starts off as Styx, ends as DT. I don’t remember the middle.

After the Styx style intro, there’s a great JP solo again in the beginning. The verse/chorus is pretty unexciting, but things kick it up at 4:06. Nice vocal section at 4:52. Cool bass part and awesome MP drum fill. This whole instrumental section is excellent. Great solos all the way around. Instrumentally, I like long sections, but the vocal sections in this song are fairy weak, and it makes the song feel long.

Do It Again...7.5

I expect this to be a grower. It better be.

This is certainly a pleasant song. The chorus reminds me of Styx. Not a bad thing. The verses feel kind of 80’s-ish. The middle section reminds me of Shooting Star. Great JP solo at 6:00. This has a nice enough outro, but really, this song is like 3 minutes too long.
8.3+7.5=15.8/2=7.9


Puppies

Devil’s Got My Throat (Spock’s Beard)...8.3

You mean this isn’t a Deep Purple cover?

This totally sounds like Deep Purple. Total Ian Paice feel and I can hear Ian Gillan and Jon Lord all over this. This rocks and has a nice pace. Interesting vocal. I hear a little Alice Cooper in it. The instrumental section, while heavy on the keyboards is cool enough. I could do without the bit at 6:00 though. It would’ve been better if they just closed it out naturally.

The Light (Spock’s Beard)...8.4

This started and I thought I was in a Disney song.

The opening vocal totally felt like a Disney musical to me. Not sure I love the John Lennon styled vocals. I do like this song has a little oomph to it. I like the part around the 6:00 mark with some Cygnus X-1 punching in. The song cleverly transitions at 7:15. Love the piano at 10:02. I like the Bolero part. What’s the deal with the guy and his tabasco? Those are goofy as shit lyrics, but that section in fantastic. Excellent Disney ending as well. This is a strong song that doesn’t feel 15 minutes at all.
8.3+8.4=16.7/2=8.35



Elite

Thoughts Pt II (Spock’s Beard)...8.1

That was a hell of a lot crammed into this relatively short song.

The beginning feels really familiar but I can’t place it. Sounds a bit like Zeppelin with keyboards over it.
The harmonic vocals are interesting. This song keeps a nice pace and is really pretty good. It doesn’t need to be fifteen minutes. It’s kind of a mini epic.

Thoughts Pt V....7.7

I’ve really struggled with this song. It gives me kind of an ear glazing for some reason.

Nothing I don’t like about it, but it just feels busy to me. My favorite part is at 5:12 and the chill part that follows with some nice hi-hat work. This takes us to the end of the song, and coolness of it kind of cancels the business of the first half. At the end, I’m not sure what I really just listened to.
8.1+7.7=15.8/2=7.9



Kwyjibo

At The End Of The Day (Spock’s Beard)....8.2

It’s long, but it keeps moving through its different sections.

I like the orchestration of the intro, and the first couple of verses/choruses are pretty easy on the ears. I like the transition at 4:00. I like the short solo at 8:16. The next half dozen minutes shows the band weaving in and out of different sections, and I never feel like it meanders. I like the drumming in this song, switching from hi-hat to ride in all the right spots. This is a high quality track. Not my favorite, but there’s really not much to pick on.

Thoughts Pt II (Spock’s Beard)...8.1

That was a hell of a lot crammed into this relatively short song.

The beginning feels really familiar but I can’t place it. Sounds a bit like Zeppelin with keyboards over it.
The harmonic vocals are interesting. This song keeps a nice pace and is really pretty good. It doesn’t need to be fifteen minutes. It’s kind of a mini epic.
8.2+8.1=16.3/2=8.15



Wolfking

In The Fire....8.6

This was pretty rocking and I loved the Deep Purple-ish outro.

This song is like one big jam session. I love the instrumental sections. Has a real Deep purple/Rainbow feel to some of them. This must be fantastic live. It’s heavy in it’s own way. The vocals have a 70’s Classic Rock feel to them. That transition at 6:10 is amazing with the keyboard solo that follows. I could easily listen to an album of this all day long.


Author Of Confusion...7.4

I liked how beefy this was in the beginning and the end, but it was a bit light in the middle.

This song sure starts out chunky but goes mid tempo which really drags it out. Thankfully at 3:15, it picks up. I feel like this would be a good song for Ian Gillan. I understand the effects and reasons of the backing vocals, but I’m not a fan of it. The song kind of disappears for a bit in the middle. The thing is, even the beefy bits aren’t that interesting and they’re repetitive.
8.6+7.4=16/2=8.0


Evermind

Entrance...7.7

This song was sneaky good I think.

The vocals at the beginning here remind me of Matt Smith’s lower register. This song doesn’t really hit you over the head at any point, but it stays steady as it goes. Still, I think there are songs that offer more in this round.

Overflow...7.2

This gave me a Dire Straits feel, which is extremely ironic.

Really chill song here. I suppose it takes a certain mood though. Nice solo at 4:20. Not sure what else to say. One of the weaker tracks.
7.7+7.2=14.9/2=7.45


Vmadera

Crack The Big Sky (Spock's Beard)....8.3

Strong opening and ends really strong. It’s the 8 minutes in between that could use some help.

Cool drum/bass opening,and at 20 seconds in, it reminds me of a middle section of Iron Maiden’s The Man Who Would Be King. This song moves along pretty nicely. I like the horns at 5:00. That’s a great section. Some nice sax too. Really like the instrumental section from 7:30-8:50. Nice classic ending.
This is one of the upper tier songs in this round.

Into Fire (Spock's Beard)...8.3

WTF? That’s Demon music.

I must say. I loved this! I’m kind of surprised nobody else sent it. Vocally, it’s a bit odd, but the vocal melodies are amazing. This is such a joy to listen to in a playlist heavy of introspection. Just simple and fun.
8.3+8.3=16.6/2=8.3

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 02, 2021, 12:09:38 PM
Round 4 Standings

425....8.45
Cyril...8.45
Puppies...8.35
Vmadera...8.30
Kwyjibo...8.15
Professor...8.05
Buddy...8.05
Wolfking...8.0
Elite...7.90
LudwigVan...7.90
Ariich...7.85
Kingshmegland...7.85
Romdrums....7.80
Omnipotent One...7.65
HOF...7.60
Stadler...7.55
Evermind...7.45
Lonestar...7.40



Standings!



Puppies...8.60+8.15+8.25+8.35=33.35
Ariich...9.0+8.15+7.60+7.85=32.60
Kwyjibo...7.80+8.75+7.65+8.15=32.35
Cyril...7.55+8.25+7.95+8.45=32.20
VMadera...8.45+7.35+7.95+8.30=32.05
Romdrums...8.25+7.65+8.25+7.8=31.95
Kingshmegland...7.70+8.25+7.85+7.85=31.65
Wolfking...7.80+7.6+8.10+8.0=31.50
425...7.90+7.40+7.65+8.45=31.40
LudwigVan...8.35+7.55+7.35+7.90=31.15
Stadler...8.50+7.75+7.35+7.55=31.15
Buddy...7.05+8.15+7.75+8.05=31.00
Evermind...8.20+7.75+7.55+7.45=30.95
Professor...8.20+7.6+7.0+8.05=30.85
HOF...7.65+7.50+8.05+7.60=30.80
Elite...7.50+7.75+7.60+7.90=30.75
Lonestar...7.80+7.25+7.85+7.40=30.30



Check my math!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: HOF on December 02, 2021, 12:30:03 PM
Ah, well, I’m glad you liked some of this stuff. I am not totally surprised that Flow sort of overstayed it’s welcome for you (I kind of think that about the sort of honky tonk verses there), but you have the really dramatic high point at around 10 minutes and then the epic ending with the closing guitar solo. It’s all a journey and you just have to sit back and take it in. Ironically, you loved Crack the Big Sky, and that’s one that I really think could stand to be shorter.

My Shoes Revisited is the end of a 20+ minute multi-track epic/suite, but that’s possibly my favorite guitar solo ever, which is the main reason I sent it. Glad you liked it at least!

Don’t forget to check out She is Everything for the epic guitar solo in that one as well.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Evermind on December 02, 2021, 12:32:28 PM
Oh no, the dice failed me :lol

Also not surprised to see 425 at the joint 1st place for this round at all.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 02, 2021, 12:35:08 PM
Ah, well, I’m glad you liked some of this stuff. I am not totally surprised that Flow sort of overstayed it’s welcome for you (I kind of think that about the sort of honky tonk verses there), but you have the really dramatic high point at around 10 minutes and then the epic ending with the closing guitar solo. It’s all a journey and you just have to sit back and take it in. Ironically, you loved Crack the Big Sky, and that’s one that I really think could stand to be shorter.

My Shoes Revisited is the end of a 20+ minute multi-track epic/suite, but that’s possibly my favorite guitar solo ever, which is the main reason I sent it. Glad you liked it at least!

Don’t forget to check out She is Everything for the epic guitar solo in that one as well.

I will.

If Flow ended at 8:40, it could've gotten an 8 easy. I felt like it climaxed...and then kept going.

My Shoes was really good. Such a great solo at the end. I'll follow up on the bigger piece.



Oh no, the dice failed me :lol

 :lol

You should've went best 2 out of 3..
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Stadler on December 02, 2021, 12:41:14 PM
Wow, I got killed.  I honestly didn't see that coming....
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: 425 on December 02, 2021, 12:45:35 PM
I kind of love that the round winners were one of the most enthusiastic Morse fans and one of the most enthusiastic Morse haters. :lol

Obviously I'm thrilled with how well you liked Broken Sky/Long Day. It's such a great ending to The Similitude of a Dream, and I'm glad to see it still hits well outside of the context of the full double concept album—especially the Long Day part, which I think gets some of its power from the fact that it's a reprise of the very first song, an hour and 45 minutes earlier. The guitar solo is genuinely not John Petrucci, but Eric Gillette is obviously a Petrucci fan. He's much younger than the rest of the guys in The Neal Morse Band and is clearly a real talent.

I figured The Call would do pretty well, and I'm glad to see that it did. I definitely come to the song more for the instrumental work than the vocal parts, although I like both.

Cool to see In the Fire as the other top performer. I think that one is really good.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 02, 2021, 12:48:31 PM
Four of you should feel shame.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 02, 2021, 12:50:39 PM
Wow, I got killed.  I honestly didn't see that coming....

So I liked Bird On A Wire. It ranked dead center 13th out of 26 tracks. But I did like it.

Weathering Sky, unfortunately would not make me want to follow up on Neal Morse. There were just far more interesting songs that offered a lot more.



Four of you should feel shame.

Don't rub it in Mr. I'manexpertonNealMorse.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 02, 2021, 12:56:20 PM
Don't rub it in Mr. I'manexpertonNealMorse.

You're like my wife... hearing things I never said.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 02, 2021, 12:56:27 PM
Not bad for a non-Morse fan! :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 02, 2021, 12:57:24 PM
Sent for Coheed.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 02, 2021, 01:01:32 PM
Don't rub it in Mr. I'manexpertonNealMorse.

You're like my wife... hearing things I never said.  :lol

 :lol

Ah well.  Now to dig more into C&C and narrow down.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: HOF on December 02, 2021, 01:03:57 PM
Four of you should feel shame.

I regret nothing!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 02, 2021, 01:08:26 PM
I dared people to send Into Fire. Had I, it would have been my highest score. Man, I got this backwards.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Crow on December 02, 2021, 01:09:46 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/njAJAsD.png)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Crow on December 02, 2021, 01:09:55 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/t7BO2X8.png)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Evermind on December 02, 2021, 01:12:16 PM
Four of you should feel shame.

I mean I've only listened to my songs once to see if they were instrumentals or not. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Lonk on December 02, 2021, 01:19:19 PM
I dared people to send Into Fire. Had I, it would have been my highest score. Man, I got this backwards.

I dare someone to send the Beard's Into Fire. The TACsponse to that would be incredible.  :lol

I volunteer as a tribute!

 :biggrin:

Sent Coheed. I hope my made some good choices  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: LudwigVan on December 02, 2021, 01:58:20 PM

LudwigVan

The Call...8.3

Starts off as Styx, ends as DT. I don’t remember the middle.

After the Styx style intro, there’s a great JP solo again in the beginning. The verse/chorus is pretty unexciting, but things kick it up at 4:06. Nice vocal section at 4:52. Cool bass part and awesome MP drum fill. This whole instrumental section is excellent. Great solos all the way around. Instrumentally, I like long sections, but the vocal sections in this song are fairy weak, and it makes the song feel long.

Do It Again...7.5

I expect this to be a grower. It better be.

This is certainly a pleasant song. The chorus reminds me of Styx. Not a bad thing. The verses feel kind of 80’s-ish. The middle section reminds me of Shooting Star. Great JP solo at 6:00. This has a nice enough outro, but really, this song is like 3 minutes too long.
8.3+7.5=15.8/2=7.9


I see that my strategy of picking the most Dream Theater-ish songs I could find got mixed results :P.  The Styx was coincidental, but I always felt that Neal Morse/Spock's Beard borrowed more from Gentle Giant than from Styx.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 02, 2021, 02:08:32 PM
 :lol

Do It Again isn't a bad song by any stretch. A score of 7.5 basically says that I feel a song is totally average. Nothing really stands out, but nothing I dislike.

I have to say that I'm a little disappointed in a few of you, who actually are familiar with Neal Morse :lol
Other than Evermind who has an excuse. Maybe these songs were sent because they're personal faves, and I totally appreciate that, but it just seemed there are so many songs at your (Lonestar/Stadler/Ariich) disposal that were..better.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: lonestar on December 02, 2021, 02:24:48 PM
I don't know any Neal Morse, and basically played spotify and clicked what I liked.



Expect the same for Coheed, Opeth, and Mastadon.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: wolfking on December 02, 2021, 02:26:14 PM
I'll take an 8.

Tim, when do you want submissions by at the latest?  I haven't even started checking C&C songs.  I'm working 7 days this week too so will try and sample a few songs.  I've literally heard one song once from this band like 10 years ago.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 02, 2021, 02:35:16 PM
At the latest?

I'd like to be locked and loaded heading into the weekend. If you bleed into Saturday that's fine. But I would say the absolute but not ideal deadline would be Sunday morning (me)/Sunday night (you).
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 02, 2021, 02:36:22 PM
I don't know any Neal Morse, and basically played spotify and clicked what I liked.

In a way, that makes me feel better about your score. ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: wolfking on December 02, 2021, 02:36:47 PM
Ok.  I won't hold you up mate, I'll stay up and sample some stuff tonight.  Hopefully the first two songs I click on are decent.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 02, 2021, 02:37:09 PM
I have to say that I'm a little disappointed in a few of you, who actually are familiar with Neal Morse :lol
Other than Evermind who has an excuse. Maybe these songs were sent because they're personal faves, and I totally appreciate that, but it just seemed there are so many songs at your (Lonestar/Stadler/Ariich) disposal that were..better.

Well, I knew I was taking a chance with Freedom Song - sending something completely off the board.  If I was going to play it safe, I probably would've sent City of Destruction, or I'm Running.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 02, 2021, 02:39:31 PM
Ok.  I won't hold you up mate, I'll stay up and sample some stuff tonight.  Hopefully the first two songs I click on are decent.  :lol

Hopefully they are. ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Stadler on December 02, 2021, 02:39:42 PM
:lol

Do It Again isn't a bad song by any stretch. A score of 7.5 basically says that I feel a song is totally average. Nothing really stands out, but nothing I dislike.

I have to say that I'm a little disappointed in a few of you, who actually are familiar with Neal Morse :lol
Other than Evermind who has an excuse. Maybe these songs were sent because they're personal faves, and I totally appreciate that, but it just seemed there are so many songs at your (Lonestar/Stadler/Ariich) disposal that were..better.

Well, that's me:  the new album is probably my favorite Neal album now, and it's likely going to crack my all time top 15.  "Bird On A Wire" is one of my favorites from that record.   Weathering Sky is just one I love to put on in the car and sing along to.   Ah well.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: wolfking on December 02, 2021, 02:40:20 PM
I have to say that I'm a little disappointed in a few of you, who actually are familiar with Neal Morse :lol
Other than Evermind who has an excuse. Maybe these songs were sent because they're personal faves, and I totally appreciate that, but it just seemed there are so many songs at your (Lonestar/Stadler/Ariich) disposal that were..better.

Well, I knew I was taking a chance with Freedom Song - sending something completely off the board.  If I was going to play it safe, I probably would've sent City of Destruction, or I'm Running.

I know I've been absent and busy but you're playing now?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: wolfking on December 02, 2021, 02:41:22 PM
Omnipotent One  :lol

Ah, okay.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: LudwigVan on December 02, 2021, 02:42:30 PM
:lol

Do It Again isn't a bad song by any stretch. A score of 7.5 basically says that I feel a song is totally average. Nothing really stands out, but nothing I dislike.

I have to say that I'm a little disappointed in a few of you, who actually are familiar with Neal Morse :lol
Other than Evermind who has an excuse. Maybe these songs were sent because they're personal faves, and I totally appreciate that, but it just seemed there are so many songs at your (Lonestar/Stadler/Ariich) disposal that were..better.

Well, that's me:  the new album is probably my favorite Neal album now, and it's likely going to crack my all time top 15.  "Bird On A Wire" is one of my favorites from that record.   Weathering Sky is just one I love to put on in the car and sing along to.   Ah well.

I know, right? I just can’t figure this TAC guy out!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 02, 2021, 02:56:27 PM
:lol

Do It Again isn't a bad song by any stretch. A score of 7.5 basically says that I feel a song is totally average. Nothing really stands out, but nothing I dislike.

I have to say that I'm a little disappointed in a few of you, who actually are familiar with Neal Morse :lol
Other than Evermind who has an excuse. Maybe these songs were sent because they're personal faves, and I totally appreciate that, but it just seemed there are so many songs at your (Lonestar/Stadler/Ariich) disposal that were..better.

Well, that's me:  the new album is probably my favorite Neal album now, and it's likely going to crack my all time top 15.  "Bird On A Wire" is one of my favorites from that record.   Weathering Sky is just one I love to put on in the car and sing along to.   Ah well.

I know, right? I just can’t figure this TAC guy out!

Well, he likes The Astonishing, and hates Power Windows.  There is no figuring that out.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 02, 2021, 04:33:46 PM
:lol

Do It Again isn't a bad song by any stretch. A score of 7.5 basically says that I feel a song is totally average. Nothing really stands out, but nothing I dislike.

I have to say that I'm a little disappointed in a few of you, who actually are familiar with Neal Morse :lol
Other than Evermind who has an excuse. Maybe these songs were sent because they're personal faves, and I totally appreciate that, but it just seemed there are so many songs at your (Lonestar/Stadler/Ariich) disposal that were..better.

Well, that's me:  the new album is probably my favorite Neal album now, and it's likely going to crack my all time top 15.  "Bird On A Wire" is one of my favorites from that record.   Weathering Sky is just one I love to put on in the car and sing along to.   Ah well.

I know, right? I just can’t figure this TAC guy out!

Well, he likes The Astonishing, and hates Power Windows.  There is no figuring that out.
Suddenly everything makes so much more sense.....and yet, less sense at the same time...
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 02, 2021, 04:37:17 PM

Well, he likes The Astonishing, and hates Power Windows.  There is no figuring that out.

So it is true. He likes The Astonishingly Bad. Wow. I never made it to disc 2 of that monstrosity.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 02, 2021, 04:40:47 PM
So, how many times is Welcome Home going to be sent in the Coheed round?  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 02, 2021, 04:49:55 PM
I think I'll be going with some deeper cuts. Possibly.

I'm tempted to send Al the Killer along with On the Brink :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Lonk on December 02, 2021, 04:56:59 PM
So, how many times is Welcome Home going to be sent in the Coheed round?  :corn

Anywhere between 1 and 15 (I didn't send it )
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 02, 2021, 04:57:49 PM
I think I'll be going with some deeper cuts. Possibly.


They're all deep cuts to me.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Crow on December 02, 2021, 05:05:42 PM
So, how many times is Welcome Home going to be sent in the Coheed round?  :corn
this would probably be a smarter pick but i've gone a slightly-but-not-quite off the beaten path approach here

coincidentally, the two songs i picked are back-to-back in their discography
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: wolfking on December 02, 2021, 05:06:17 PM
So, how many times is Welcome Home going to be sent in the Coheed round?  :corn

This is the song I was referring too in my earlier post.  I'll listen again but remember it being decent.  With my time constraints, I think I'll be sending it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Lonk on December 02, 2021, 05:06:48 PM
I think I'll be going with some deeper cuts. Possibly.


They're all deep cuts to me.

Maybe he sent the song "The Final Cut"  :corn

In all honesty, the whole Willing Well suite would be awesome
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 02, 2021, 05:14:11 PM
I think I'll be going with some deeper cuts. Possibly.


They're all deep cuts to me.

Maybe he sent the song "The Final Cut"  :corn

In all honesty, the whole Willing Well suite would be awesome
I actually considered passing off The Willing Well as one song  :lol It is awesome!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 02, 2021, 06:54:01 PM
Two people have used their Wild Card™ and each have had a song eliminated. One was easy, the other was tough.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: 425 on December 02, 2021, 07:11:25 PM
Sent two songs with titles of normal length.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 02, 2021, 07:48:10 PM
So, how many times is Welcome Home going to be sent in the Coheed round?  :corn

I came in to post that exact question.  :lol

Told TAC over PM that he can probably expect a lot of that track.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 02, 2021, 07:49:49 PM
 :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Crow on December 02, 2021, 07:57:42 PM
the other was tough.
because you hated all three  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 02, 2021, 08:01:10 PM
 :lol



Actually, I think this round is more to my comfort level, honestly.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 02, 2021, 08:07:20 PM
Actually, I can see Tim enjoying quite a few aspects of Coheed and Cambria. :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 02, 2021, 08:11:50 PM
I've heard about 7 or 8 of the songs sent, and I'd say we're off to a rousing start. And then there's Stadler. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: LudwigVan on December 02, 2021, 08:18:26 PM
Sent brah!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 02, 2021, 08:23:51 PM
Sent brah!

Sent a question back to you!

Damn crazy ass titles.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: LudwigVan on December 02, 2021, 08:26:35 PM
Sent brah!

Sent a question back to you!

Asked and answered!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: ariich on December 02, 2021, 11:23:25 PM
:lol

Do It Again isn't a bad song by any stretch. A score of 7.5 basically says that I feel a song is totally average. Nothing really stands out, but nothing I dislike.

I have to say that I'm a little disappointed in a few of you, who actually are familiar with Neal Morse :lol
Other than Evermind who has an excuse. Maybe these songs were sent because they're personal faves, and I totally appreciate that, but it just seemed there are so many songs at your (Lonestar/Stadler/Ariich) disposal that were..better.
Well, I'd say that it's hard to know what you'll think, plus I'm generally preferring to send two songs of slightly different styles to give you a fuller representation of the artist's work (which I know you're keen on, hence the whole 50% Neal vocals rule). I don't actually know what the Hall & Oates reference means, but the result is disappointing for sure. I think that's a really great little song, with a nice punchy groove and great hooks. Seems in this round especially the long songs pretty much all scored well, so maybe I should just stick with epics from now on. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Elite on December 03, 2021, 02:13:31 AM
I have sent!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 03, 2021, 04:44:56 AM
Well, I'd say that it's hard to know what you'll think,

(https://c.tenor.com/rsUH-YEDhroAAAAC/loki-yes.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 03, 2021, 06:29:06 AM
Alright, not bad, not bad at all.

I thought about sending Into The Fire but thought it wouldn't work as a stand alone song.

Tim, if you like it that much, do yourself a favor and listen to "?", especially the run from Sweet Elation/Into The Fire/Solid As The Sun and end it with the cheesy and pompous The Glory Of The Lord, as this really is one long song with lots of reprising themes.

And because it's my favorite Neal Morse record, because it's just soooo good.  ;)

edit: sent some random stuff
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: ariich on December 03, 2021, 08:36:00 AM
Well, I'd say that it's hard to know what you'll think,

(https://c.tenor.com/rsUH-YEDhroAAAAC/loki-yes.gif)
:rollin

Touche.

EDIT: Oh also every time I see this thread title I think it says Morsluts.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 03, 2021, 08:45:51 AM
 :lol

Yeah, seriously, Rich. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: ariich on December 03, 2021, 08:48:21 AM
Sent!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: 425 on December 03, 2021, 09:21:33 AM
I like both Weathering Sky and Another Story to Tell, but I can understand why they wouldn't perform as well in roulette. They're both kind of "ordinary" songs, albeit really good ones, while some of the longer ones have more of the NM magic.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 09:28:16 AM
Ordinary is a good word. Another Story and a really just that. Not a bad song but not one that stood out or clicked it’s way up.
I really wasn’t crazy about Weathering Sky though, and I can’t imagine it with Stadler singing.  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Evermind on December 03, 2021, 10:51:17 AM
I actually think I won't roll the dice for this and just send two songs from Hi Apollo I'm Fallen Star IV: The Wishing Wish in the Eyes of Madness.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 03, 2021, 11:04:53 AM
TAC, when you reveal who sent what you should type out all the song names by memory and see how many you can get right. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Crow on December 03, 2021, 11:32:44 AM
I wouldn't even be able to get all the song names right  :rollin
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: HOF on December 03, 2021, 11:40:29 AM
My song titles are both pretty short.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 03, 2021, 11:50:17 AM
TAC, when you reveal who sent what you should type out all the song names by memory and see how many you can get right. :biggrin:

I already failed that in a PM. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 12:07:53 PM
TAC, when you reveal who sent what you should type out all the song names by memory and see how many you can get right. :biggrin:

Oh that's easy.

Welcome Home.

How'd I do? ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: 425 on December 03, 2021, 12:09:26 PM
My song titles are both pretty short.

My two song titles are a total of six words.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 03, 2021, 12:13:58 PM
TAC, when you reveal who sent what you should type out all the song names by memory and see how many you can get right. :biggrin:

Oh that's easy.

Welcome Home.

How'd I do? ;D

You'll get a few freebies. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: HOF on December 03, 2021, 12:18:15 PM
My song titles are both pretty short.

My two song titles are a total of six words.

Mine total up to four words I think. There were at least two other one word titles I considered. This band is a lot less out there than I anticipated going in.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 12:19:52 PM
TAC, when you reveal who sent what you should type out all the song names by memory and see how many you can get right. :biggrin:

I already failed that in a PM. :lol

Yeah, you can't send 4 songs! :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 12:21:16 PM
Just waiting on Wolfking.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 03, 2021, 12:21:22 PM
I tried. Lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Elite on December 03, 2021, 12:23:05 PM
My song titles are both pretty short.

My two song titles are a total of six words.

Mine total up to four words I think.

I sent 4 words as well. Did we send the same stuff?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 12:26:18 PM
My song titles are both pretty short.

My two song titles are a total of six words.

Mine total up to four words I think.

I sent 4 words as well. Did we send the same stuff?

Everybody sent the same stuff. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Elite on December 03, 2021, 12:36:05 PM
Christ :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Evermind on December 03, 2021, 12:36:56 PM
I'm pretty sure there are like 10 Welcome Homes in there :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: 425 on December 03, 2021, 12:37:31 PM
Everybody definitely sent Welcome Home. I didn't. But I wouldn't be surprised if other people sent both of my songs.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: HOF on December 03, 2021, 12:37:55 PM

Everybody sent the same stuff. :lol

Time to get cracking on Opeth I guess.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 03, 2021, 12:45:49 PM
Shortest round yet in terms of playlist length, I'm assuming?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2021, 12:52:50 PM
I just sent Welcome Home.  Hopefully no one else sent that one.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Crow on December 03, 2021, 01:01:52 PM
Shortest round yet in terms of playlist length, I'm assuming?
to be fair this was bound to happen anyways as generally coheed songs don't run as long as any of the other artists so far  :lol
mastodon will probably be similar, aside from the one album from them that's banned anyways their songs tend to run relatively short
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: ariich on December 03, 2021, 01:16:00 PM
I did not send Welcome Home.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: HOF on December 03, 2021, 01:19:08 PM
I did not send Welcome Home.

I too did not send Welcome Home.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: 425 on December 03, 2021, 01:20:25 PM
My prediction for the second-most popular one: In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 03, 2021, 01:47:16 PM
I sent both. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 01:48:20 PM
Did J-Boy do a group PM and bet everyone to send the same song?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 03, 2021, 01:51:22 PM
I forgot what I sent, but it wasn't Welcome Home.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 01:53:21 PM
OK, I have a Wild Card™ to eliminate and then I'll give the final list.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Crow on December 03, 2021, 01:56:54 PM
My prediction for the second-most popular one: In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3

I sent neither!

my intuition suggests that TAC will not be able to get past SSTB/IKS Claudio who has always sounded noticeably different to Good Apollo-onward Claudio, but watch me be way off  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 03, 2021, 02:06:27 PM
Between Welcome Home and IKSoSE:3 Claudio sounds better on the latter tbh
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Evermind on December 03, 2021, 02:07:34 PM
My prediction for the second-most popular one: In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3

I thought of sending that as I know it's popular, but I decided to stick with one album I know.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 03, 2021, 02:09:57 PM
Did J-Boy do a group PM and bet everyone to send the same song?

Maybe I did ... maybe I didn’t.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: 425 on December 03, 2021, 02:19:06 PM
Between Welcome Home and IKSoSE:3 Claudio sounds better on the latter tbh

I think IKSoSE:3 (the song) is one of Claudio's less "weird" vocal performances.

I also did not send either one. In fact, I didn't send anything from either of those albums.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 02:19:55 PM
Ok, here's the list!

Professor
Welcome Home
The End Complete III: The End Complete

Vmadera
Gravemakers & Gunslinger
The Dark Sentencer

Kingshmegland
Welcome Home
The Dark Sentencer

Buddy
Welcome Home
In Keeping Secrets Of Silent Earth:3

Romdrums
Welcome Home
Key Entity Extaction IV:Evagria The Faithful

Cyril
No World For Tomorrow
The Willing Well IV:The Final Cut

Stadler
The Dark Sentencer
Jessie’s Girl 2

HOF
Atlas
All On Fire

LudwigVan
Key Entities Extraction V: Sentry The Defiant
Goodnight Fair Lady

Puppies
Gravity’s Union
The Willing Well IV:The Final Cut

425
No World For Tomorrow
Gravity’s Union

Lonestar
The Gutter
In Keeping Secrets Of Silent Earth:3

Elite
Welcome Home
The Suffering

Kwyjibo
Crossing The Frame
Gravity’s Union

Ariich
Key Entity Extraction I: Domino The Destitute
Gravity’s Union

Evermind
Welcome Home
Ten Speed (Of God’s Blood & Burial)

Wolfking
Welcome Home
The Crowning

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/26L697DbrHLql36IO8mBsG?si=84acc574373f4643



Oh, and I'll give up one First Impression right now...

'This song certainly is good.  But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.'

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 02:21:07 PM
Did J-Boy do a group PM and bet everyone to send the same song?

Maybe I did ... maybe I didn’t.



Maybe that explains my slight underwelment with it. ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 03, 2021, 02:22:04 PM
Lowest score in the round goes to Welcome Home!  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Crow on December 03, 2021, 02:22:57 PM
i don't remember all of these songs off the top of my head but pretty much all the ones i do make perfect sense  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Evermind on December 03, 2021, 02:24:07 PM
I thought of sending The Final Cut but it has that outro which I thought Tim wouldn't like. :lol Good on people who sent it though, it was my third choice.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: 425 on December 03, 2021, 02:26:26 PM
My fate is tied together with Cyril and Puppies? I guess I could do worse.

Not as many IKS as I thought, and I'm bowled over that IV is the only Willing Well that was sent. If I knew none of y'all were sending I or II, I might have done that in place of NWFT. Unless they were wild-card-eliminated, which would find very surprising.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: HOF on December 03, 2021, 02:27:18 PM
I guess I need to go see what Welcome Home is all about.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: 425 on December 03, 2021, 02:28:20 PM
IMO: Welcome Home is not that great. It's a classic case of a radio hit that is shallower than a lot of the band's better songs.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 02:28:55 PM
It was a radio hit? I mean, I don't listen to the radio very much but..
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 02:29:39 PM
Is Welcome Home akin to getting Pull Me Under in a Dream Theater Round?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Evermind on December 03, 2021, 02:30:17 PM
IMO: Welcome Home is not that great. It's a classic case of a radio hit that is shallower than a lot of the band's better songs.

I think it's the riff.

I certainly like Welcome Home more than the song you sent me in my roulette which was about Domino's going bankrupt I think?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Crow on December 03, 2021, 02:33:39 PM
I thought of sending The Final Cut but it has that outro which I thought Tim wouldn't like. :lol Good on people who sent it though, it was my third choice.
see, i told him to use the version on the greatest hits compilation which excludes that outro  :corn

Is Welcome Home akin to getting Pull Me Under in a Dream Theater Round?
100%
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: ariich on December 03, 2021, 02:37:05 PM
Tim, your Spotify playlist is missing one of my songs. :P
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: 425 on December 03, 2021, 02:43:57 PM
IMO: Welcome Home is not that great. It's a classic case of a radio hit that is shallower than a lot of the band's better songs.

I think it's the riff.

I certainly like Welcome Home more than the song you sent me in my roulette which was about Domino's going bankrupt I think?

Domino the Destitute wouldn't be among the top 10 songs I'd send today, but I still like it better than Welcome Home.


And yes, Welcome Home is basically Coheed's Pull Me Under, although Coheed has another sizable hit in A Favor House Atlantic.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 03, 2021, 02:45:20 PM
So one of the songs I picked completely at random (Gravity's Union) is sent by three other people. Hopefully that's a good sign.

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: 425 on December 03, 2021, 02:47:48 PM
It's my personal favorite Coheed song.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 02:49:38 PM
IMO: Welcome Home is not that great. It's a classic case of a radio hit that is shallower than a lot of the band's better songs.

I think it's the riff.

I certainly like Welcome Home more than the song you sent me in my roulette which was about Domino's going bankrupt I think?

Are you saying that song didn't deliver?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 02:52:44 PM
Tim, your Spotify playlist is missing one of my songs. :P

Fixed. Thank you.


Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: LudwigVan on December 03, 2021, 02:53:53 PM
The riffs and chord progression on Welcome Home is highly reminiscent of Zep’s Kashmir.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Evermind on December 03, 2021, 02:55:01 PM
IMO: Welcome Home is not that great. It's a classic case of a radio hit that is shallower than a lot of the band's better songs.

I think it's the riff.

I certainly like Welcome Home more than the song you sent me in my roulette which was about Domino's going bankrupt I think?

Are you saying that song didn't deliver?

For sure. :lol

I thought of sending The Final Cut but it has that outro which I thought Tim wouldn't like. :lol Good on people who sent it though, it was my third choice.
see, i told him to use the version on the greatest hits compilation which excludes that outro  :corn

There's a compilation that has that? Oh well. :lol I would've definitely sent that. Welcome Home and The Final Cut are my two favourite Coheed tracks.

I might check some stuff from this round though, as I only know the Greek Apollo, I'm Lonestar IV songs.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 02:58:34 PM
Greek Apollo, I'm Lonestar


(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_2648_1635785093.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: HOF on December 03, 2021, 03:00:06 PM
The riffs and chord progression on Welcome Home is highly reminiscent of Zep’s Kashmir.

I kind of got a Whitesnake - Still of the Night vibe from it, which I guess makes sense.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 03:02:07 PM
The riffs and chord progression on Welcome Home is highly reminiscent of Zep’s Kashmir.

I kind of got a Whitesnake - Still of the Night vibe from it, which I guess makes sense.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 03:07:01 PM
The riffs and chord progression on Welcome Home is highly reminiscent of Zep’s Kashmir.

In this thread, LudwigVan relates every song to Led Zeppelin! ;D


I thought I heard JPJ's keys in The Final Cut..
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Stadler on December 03, 2021, 03:08:02 PM
IMO: Welcome Home is not that great. It's a classic case of a radio hit that is shallower than a lot of the band's better songs.

I think it's the riff.

I certainly like Welcome Home more than the song you sent me in my roulette which was about Domino's going bankrupt I think?

Domino the Destitute wouldn't be among the top 10 songs I'd send today, but I still like it better than Welcome Home.


And yes, Welcome Home is basically Coheed's Pull Me Under, although Coheed has another sizable hit in A Favor House Atlantic.

I think you're being generous with the word "hit".   :) :) :)

Then again, and I say this respectfully, I'm not a fan.  The Dark Sentencer was one song I truly like - like, not love - but while I see why someone WOULD like them, they're not really for me.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: LudwigVan on December 03, 2021, 03:09:56 PM
The riffs and chord progression on Welcome Home is highly reminiscent of Zep’s Kashmir.

In this thread, LudwigVan relates every song to Led Zeppelin! ;D


The sign of a true fogey!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2021, 03:10:14 PM
I got through half of the Crowning and fell asleep.  It sounded okay but woke up this morning with me the only one left to send.  I sent it anyway as I couldn't be assed looking anymore and I have to get to work.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 03:13:28 PM
The riffs and chord progression on Welcome Home is highly reminiscent of Zep’s Kashmir.

In this thread, LudwigVan relates every song to Led Zeppelin! ;D


The sign of a true fogey!

(https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/two-senior-men-smile-and-exchange-a-high-five-picture-id156896724)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Crow on December 03, 2021, 03:15:32 PM
Really fortunate that Jimmy Page invented the guitar
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 03:16:57 PM
The beginning of Gravity's Union might be the single worst sound I've ever heard come from a guitar.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Crow on December 03, 2021, 03:22:51 PM
 :rollin

Hey throw some disses at my songs I'm missing out on all the fun
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Lonk on December 03, 2021, 03:40:53 PM
I thought about sending Evageria The Faithful, The Crowing (not The Crowning, btw), and Domino the Destitute. Glad to see other people did. Surprised no one sent The Suffering.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2021, 03:44:28 PM
I thought about sending Evageria The Faithful, The Crowing (not The Crowning, btw), and Domino the Destitute. Glad to see other people did. Surprised no one sent The Suffering.

They did.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Lonk on December 03, 2021, 03:51:27 PM
Aahh, missed that, :facepalm:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: ariich on December 03, 2021, 04:25:29 PM
IMO: Welcome Home is not that great. It's a classic case of a radio hit that is shallower than a lot of the band's better songs.

I think it's the riff.

I certainly like Welcome Home more than the song you sent me in my roulette which was about Domino's going bankrupt I think?

Domino the Destitute wouldn't be among the top 10 songs I'd send today, but I still like it better than Welcome Home.
Domino the Destitute is literally their best song (that I've heard). :P

I get that Welcome Home and more generally their earlier stuff is pretty popular, but honestly I just find it quite bland. Like, there's some cool stuff instrumentally but a complete lack of vocal hooks that interest me. But each to their own.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 03, 2021, 04:31:38 PM
I get that Welcome Home and more generally their earlier stuff is pretty popular, but honestly I just find it quite bland. Like, there's some cool stuff instrumentally but a complete lack of vocal hooks that interest me. But each to their own.

If their newer stuff has more of that I might enjoy it more.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: ariich on December 03, 2021, 04:46:50 PM
I get that Welcome Home and more generally their earlier stuff is pretty popular, but honestly I just find it quite bland. Like, there's some cool stuff instrumentally but a complete lack of vocal hooks that interest me. But each to their own.

If their newer stuff has more of that I might enjoy it more.
More, though it's still not consistent. The Afterman albums are easily the best thing I've heard from them and have some really cool songs, but I still don't love them.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Crow on December 03, 2021, 05:16:24 PM
domino is really good to be fair but i wanted one rocker and one proggier tune and this was the end result
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 03, 2021, 05:42:20 PM
The beginning of Gravity's Union might be the single worst sound I've ever heard come from a guitar.
:facepalm:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 03, 2021, 05:50:26 PM
Can I retroactively change Gravity's Union with The Light and The Glass?  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Crow on December 03, 2021, 06:08:13 PM
Can I retroactively change Gravity's Union with The Light and The Glass?  :biggrin:
do you want him to sit bored for 5 minutes lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 06:32:56 PM
Can I retroactively change Gravity's Union with The Light and The Glass?  :biggrin:
do you want him to sit bored for 5 minutes lol

Pretty sure we covered that last round.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 03, 2021, 07:07:04 PM
Can I retroactively change Gravity's Union with The Light and The Glass?  :biggrin:
do you want him to sit bored for 5 minutes lol

Pretty sure we covered that last round.
Haha. Fair enough! :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 03, 2021, 07:09:29 PM
The beginning of Gravity's Union might be the single worst sound I've ever heard come from a guitar.

https://youtu.be/0cVlTeIATBs
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 07:16:34 PM
The beginning of Gravity's Union might be the single worst sound I've ever heard come from a guitar.

https://youtu.be/0cVlTeIATBs

That's literally what it sounds like.

Of course there's this..

https://youtu.be/JD5ExLR_YaM?t=7
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 03, 2021, 07:47:52 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/RZbLhhs2/giphy.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 07:52:03 PM
 :lol
That's a great gif.

Is that the Queen catching you drink the last beer in the house? :lol



Just finished first listens. I'm not putting together First Impressions tonight. I'll do it tomorrow, but I do have two overarching First Impressions.

1. I'll be shocked if this isn't the highest scoring round. How that affects the standings is one thing, but collectively, I'm expecting good scores.

2. I totally understand Claudio's voice not agreeing with some people, but you cannot deny that this guy leaves it all out there. Great performances practically across the board.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 03, 2021, 07:54:50 PM
No, we share beers. Lol. She gets pissed about a hundred other issues in her head. 

...
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 08:04:19 PM
No, we share beers. Lol. She gets pissed about a hundred other issues in her head. 

...

So listen to this story..

backstory...our town is having water isuues, so we have to drink bottled water, but can fill jugs at the town's water department. anyway..I needed a pitcher to combine jugs....

So I can't find the pitcher in our kitchen,. so I ask my wife where the (I'm such a dumbass I couldn't think of the word pitcher) fruit punch pourer is. Miraculously, she knows what I'm talking about.

Anyway she asks, "What do you need it for?"
WUT? I go, "What do you mean, what difference does it make? Where is it?"
Her: "Well, what are you using it for?"
Me: "Does it matter?"
Her: "yeah it does"
Me (WTF??): "So if I need it for one thing, it'll be found in the kitchen, but if I need it for another thing, it'll be found in the hallway?" :lol
Her:....blank stare...
Me: "I need it to combine the water jugs"
Her: "Oh I think it's in here (hallway closet)"

 :facepalm:

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 03, 2021, 08:12:07 PM
:lol
That's a great gif.

Is that the Queen catching you drink the last beer in the house? :lol



Just finished first listens. I'm not putting together First Impressions tonight. I'll do it tomorrow, but I do have two overarching First Impressions.

1. I'll be shocked if this isn't the highest scoring round. How that affects the standings is one thing, but collectively, I'm expecting good scores.

2. I totally understand Claudio's voice not agreeing with some people, but you cannot deny that this guy leaves it all out there. Great performances practically across the board.
(https://c.tenor.com/hyVt5PDLlzcAAAAM/futurama-good-news-everyone.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 03, 2021, 08:17:41 PM
Tim, I'm triggered. I know that story so well. Lol

Get me what I asked for woman!  I don't need to womansplain it to you!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 08:20:00 PM
Tim, I'm triggered. I know that story so well. Lol

Get me what I asked for woman!  I don't need to womansplain it to you!

And the thing is...it's out of fucking nowhere. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 03, 2021, 08:21:25 PM
Hard to bite your tongue when you think, "why do I need to explain myself?"

Aren't I a grown up with best intentions?   :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 08:24:31 PM
Hard to bite your tongue when you think, "why do I need to explain myself?"

Aren't I a grown up with best intentions?   :lol

It's funny, but I find myself stomping my feet like an 8 y/o saying,"I'm a 53 year old man..." :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 03, 2021, 08:25:24 PM
No, we share beers. Lol. She gets pissed about a hundred other issues in her head. 

...

So listen to this story..

backstory...our town is having water isuues, so we have to drink bottled water, but can fill jugs at the town's water department. anyway..I needed a pitcher to combine jugs....

So I can't find the pitcher in our kitchen,. so I ask my wife where the (I'm such a dumbass I couldn't think of the word pitcher) fruit punch pourer is. Miraculously, she knows what I'm talking about.

Anyway she asks, "What do you need it for?"
WUT? I go, "What do you mean, what difference does it make? Where is it?"
Her: "Well, what are you using it for?"
Me: "Does it matter?"
Her: "yeah it does"
Me (WTF??): "So if I need it for one thing, it'll be found in the kitchen, but if I need it for another thing, it'll be found in the hallway?" :lol
Her:....blank stare...
Me: "I need it to combine the water jugs"
Her: "Oh I think it's in here (hallway closet)"

 :facepalm:
Who knew that the location of the pitcher would be conditional?  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Crow on December 03, 2021, 08:26:06 PM
1. I'll be shocked if this isn't the highest scoring round. How that affects the standings is one thing, but collectively, I'm expecting good scores.
to be fair almost across the board people avoided their poppier stuff and went for the heavier tunes, which is probably factoring into at least a good chunk of this  :lol if you'd gotten all blood red summers, feathers, number cities etc. i bet you'd be singing a different tune  :P

i considered sending old flames too but i was a bit less confident in that one even if it's pretty damn great
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 03, 2021, 08:28:15 PM
Hard to bite your tongue when you think, "why do I need to explain myself?"

Aren't I a grown up with best intentions?   :lol

It's funny, but I find myself stomping my feet like an 8 y/o saying,"I'm a 53 year old man..." :lol

I know. Us guys need physically but we can't so we revert to stomping off like a kid. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 08:36:12 PM

i considered sending old flames too but i was a bit less confident in that one even if it's pretty damn great

Listening now..you made the right choice. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 03, 2021, 08:40:09 PM
This is just me, but there "emoness" early on turns me off.  As they grow. I've liked them more.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 03, 2021, 08:44:11 PM
This is just me, but there "emoness" early on turns me off.  As they grow. I've liked them more.
I don't think they have ever been an emo band. Sure they were lumped in with a lot of the emo bands of the early 2000s and they utilized some of those sounds a little bit, but Coheed was playing at a much higher level and their lyrics never delved into emo territory.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 03, 2021, 08:45:29 PM
I haven't had a chance yet to step back and look at the chronology of the songs that were submitted. I definitely will though. Yeah, there's an emo-ness to his voice.


This is just me, but there "emoness" early on turns me off.  As they grow. I've liked them more.
I don't think they have ever been an emo band. Sure they were lumped in with a lot of the emo bands of the early 2000s and they utilized some of those sounds a little bit, but Coheed was playing at a much higher level and their lyrics never delved into emo territory.

I swear I just listened to a song where the lyrics were "Will you marry me?" :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 03, 2021, 08:55:20 PM
This is just me, but there "emoness" early on turns me off.  As they grow. I've liked them more.
I don't think they have ever been an emo band. Sure they were lumped in with a lot of the emo bands of the early 2000s and they utilized some of those sounds a little bit, but Coheed was playing at a much higher level and their lyrics never delved into emo territory.

Their 1st 2 albums reak emo. There is no doubt there.  They definitely evolved since then.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: Crow on December 03, 2021, 09:12:58 PM
This is just me, but there "emoness" early on turns me off.  As they grow. I've liked them more.
I don't think they have ever been an emo band. Sure they were lumped in with a lot of the emo bands of the early 2000s and they utilized some of those sounds a little bit, but Coheed was playing at a much higher level and their lyrics never delved into emo territory.

Their 1st 2 albums reak emo. There is no doubt there.  They definitely evolved since then.
(this is why i avoided the first two albums  :lol in keeping secrets is easily their best album tho and emo is a real good genre if you know where to look)
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Post by: LudwigVan on December 03, 2021, 09:17:09 PM
Maybe not always 'emo-ness', but there is a wonderfully sappy sentimentality that pervades C&C, which is a cool trick to pull off considering that most of the lyrics are part of one giant science fiction epic saga. And yet, even though each song is part of a bigger story, they feel complete within themselves, not like fragments of a whole that you sometimes get with bands that do grand concept albums. Each song stands alone without feeling like it needs another to complete the picture.

I get the sense that C&C appeals to a younger crowd, and no less to females as males. One time, I was blasting a C&C album in my car as I pulled up to the entrance of a Long Island State Park, and the young girl inside the fee booth immediately started singing, snapping her fingers and bopping to the music. It kinda made me feel cool ... at least for a couple of minutes.  :D

But underneath the indie-punk trappings, they've managed to sneak in a ton of classic rock. I think it's great that this band bears the torch for Pink Floyd, Iron Maiden, Led Zeppelin, Thin Lizzy, Rush, etc., keeping these sounds alive for the younger set. Their music is almost chameleon-like in the way they've adopted all these sounds, but somehow turned it into their own.

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Post by: 425 on December 03, 2021, 11:32:15 PM
2. I totally understand Claudio's voice not agreeing with some people, but you cannot deny that this guy leaves it all out there. Great performances practically across the board.

This is so true. He absolutely goes for all of it on every song.

I hope the first few seconds of Gravity's Union don't kill the whole song for you.


Their 1st 2 albums reak emo. There is no doubt there.  They definitely evolved since then.
(this is why i avoided the first two albums  :lol in keeping secrets is easily their best album tho and emo is a real good genre if you know where to look)

I don't know a lot of emo music, but it seems to me from my limited experience of the genre that SSTB has a pretty heavy emo vibe, but it's really dialed back a lot even by IKS.
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Post by: Evermind on December 04, 2021, 01:01:23 AM
I swear I just listened to a song where the lyrics were "Will you marry me?" :lol

Jesse, bad boy
Just come look at what your brother did,
To that girl's precious little whore of a body
[x4]
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 04, 2021, 04:26:57 AM
So one of the songs I picked completely at random (Gravity's Union) is sent by three other people. Hopefully that's a good sign.

The beginning of Gravity's Union might be the single worst sound I've ever heard come from a guitar.

 :facepalm: :D
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Post by: TAC on December 04, 2021, 04:28:58 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2021, 04:29:35 AM
So one of the songs I picked completely at random (Gravity's Union) is sent by three other people. Hopefully that's a good sign.

The beginning of Gravity's Union might be the single worst sound I've ever heard come from a guitar.

 :facepalm: :D

Haha, too good.
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 04, 2021, 08:51:21 AM
So is all of Good Apollo I'm Burning Star IV just a massive edgy self-insert about Claudio's personal problems or am I reading into that wrong?
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Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 04, 2021, 09:37:33 AM
So is all of Good Apollo I'm Burning Star IV just a massive edgy self-insert about Claudio's personal problems or am I reading into that wrong?
Eh, maybe?? But it's all part of the overall story of The Amory Wars. :dunno:

I never got into all the graphic  novels and other stuff about it, so the story is a little hard to follow sometimes. At least for me.
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 04, 2021, 10:48:59 AM
Every album, except one, takes place in the universe of The Amory Wars. Wiki seems to have a decent breakdown and a timeline of when the albums take place and what graphic novel they correspond to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amory_Wars
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Post by: Crow on December 04, 2021, 10:50:03 AM
So is all of Good Apollo I'm Burning Star IV just a massive edgy self-insert about Claudio's personal problems or am I reading into that wrong?
the first good apollo album is basically about writer's block yeah
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Morsults!!
Post by: TAC on December 04, 2021, 11:42:54 AM
So wait..this is comic book music?
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 04, 2021, 11:55:36 AM
This is just me, but there "emoness" early on turns me off.  As they grow. I've liked them more.
I don't think they have ever been an emo band. Sure they were lumped in with a lot of the emo bands of the early 2000s and they utilized some of those sounds a little bit, but Coheed was playing at a much higher level and their lyrics never delved into emo territory.

Their 1st 2 albums reak emo. There is no doubt there.  They definitely evolved since then.
(this is why i avoided the first two albums  :lol in keeping secrets is easily their best album tho and emo is a real good genre if you know where to look)

AFI was a band I dug when they came out.
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Post by: LudwigVan on December 04, 2021, 11:56:28 AM
So wait..this is comic book music?

Sooo.... what rock have you been hiding under?   :lol.  :facepalm:


https://www.amazon.com/Claudio-Sanchez/e/B00N8N3JU4?ref=dbs_m_cmx_rwt_byln
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Post by: TAC on December 04, 2021, 11:59:32 AM
So wait..this is comic book music?

Sooo.... what rock have you been hiding under?   :lol.  :facepalm:

https://www.amazon.com/Claudio-Sanchez/e/B00N8N3JU4?ref=dbs_m_cmx_rwt_byln

Well, I'm not into comic books. :P
I did make it through puberty.





AFI was a band I dug when they came out.

Never heard of them.


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Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2021, 01:26:06 PM
So wait..this is comic book music?

Sooo.... what rock have you been hiding under?   :lol.  :facepalm:


https://www.amazon.com/Claudio-Sanchez/e/B00N8N3JU4?ref=dbs_m_cmx_rwt_byln

To be fair, I knew nothing about all of this also.  Not a fan of the band so why would I?
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Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2021, 01:27:05 PM
So wait..this is comic book music?

Sooo.... what rock have you been hiding under?   :lol.  :facepalm:

https://www.amazon.com/Claudio-Sanchez/e/B00N8N3JU4?ref=dbs_m_cmx_rwt_byln

Well, I'm not into comic books. :P
I did make it through puberty.





AFI was a band I dug when they came out.

Never heard of them.

That's not a problem.
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 04, 2021, 01:53:08 PM
Being comic book music is the logical conclusion of prog geekiness, to be fair
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Post by: TAC on December 04, 2021, 02:13:01 PM
Being comic book music is the logical conclusion of prog geekiness, to be fair

Seems like it'd be the impetus..
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Post by: TAC on December 04, 2021, 06:37:46 PM
First Impressions


III: The End Complete
In Keeping Secrets Of Silent Earth:3
Key Entity Extaction IV:Evagria The Faithful
No World For Tomorrow
Jessie’s Girl 2
Key Entities Extraction V: Sentry The Defiant
All On Fire
Gravity’s Union
Crossing The Frame
The Suffering
The Gutter
Atlas
Goodnight Fair Lady
The Crowing
Ten Speed (Of God’s Blood & Burial)
The Willing Well IV:The Final Cut
Key Entity Extraction I: Domino The Destitute

This is almost epic
This was a bit iffy when it started, but it won me over.
This will take a few more listens to sink in.
Hmm..I don’t know about this one.
This feels pretty average.
I suppose that sometimes it helps to actually know the song.
For a relatively short song, this song has a lot of depth.
This takes a while to get there but it’s pretty satisfying in the end.
Thin Lizzy Round!
This is a nice song that needs to do a bit more to stand out.
WTF is this?
Not sure why….but I like this song.
Enjoyable song. Not sure if it’ll stand out though.
That was really nice
I like where this went in the second half.
I didn’t not like this song, but I found it a tad unexciting.
This song certainly is good.  But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.[Welcome Home]
Parts of this are metal!
Pretty cool immediate rocker.[Gravemakers & Gunslingers]
This is a cool song. I didn’t care for the swearing though.[The Dark Sentencer]
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 04, 2021, 06:58:18 PM
Mine?

This is almost epic.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 04, 2021, 07:03:16 PM
No, yours is actually obvious. :P
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 04, 2021, 07:09:47 PM
Definitely this. Lol

This is a cool song. I didn’t care for the swearing though.
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Post by: TAC on December 04, 2021, 07:11:46 PM
Definitely this. Lol

This is a cool song. I didn’t care for the swearing though.

Thank you.
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Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 04, 2021, 07:15:52 PM
How am I just realizing someone sent Jesse's Girl 2  :lol
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Post by: TAC on December 04, 2021, 07:19:37 PM
How am I just realizing someone sent Jesse's Girl 2  :lol

You'd think J-Boy was playing again. ;D
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Post by: Lonk on December 04, 2021, 07:52:19 PM
First Impressions

This feels pretty average.
Enjoyable song. Not sure if it’ll stand out though.
I like where this went in the second half.
Pretty cool immediate rocker.

The Suffering
Evaregia The Faithful
The Crowing
Gravemaker & Gunslinger
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 04, 2021, 07:55:58 PM
First Impressions

This feels pretty average.
Enjoyable song. Not sure if it’ll stand out though.
I like where this went in the second half.
Pretty cool immediate rocker.

The Suffering
Evaregia The Faithful
The Crowing
Gravemaker & Gunslinger


You got one!

And, after two listens, I expect this song to get one of the better scores...

Unless it tanks.. :corn
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Post by: Lonk on December 05, 2021, 08:55:13 AM
First Impressions
Pretty cool immediate rocker.
Gravemaker & Gunslinger


You got one!

And, after two listens, I expect this song to get one of the better scores...

Unless it tanks.. :corn

Hey, at least I'm not sharing the score with anyone else for this song  :biggrin:

Alright so one more guess

Parts of this are metal! - The Crowing
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 05, 2021, 09:10:11 AM
No it’s not. I know some of these are vague.

If you can get within 3 I’ll give it.
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Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 05, 2021, 10:23:18 AM
No it’s not. I know some of these are vague.

If you can get within 3 I’ll give it.
Yeah, these might be the most vague first impressions yet!  :corn
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Post by: TAC on December 05, 2021, 01:33:08 PM
No it’s not. I know some of these are vague.

If you can get within 3 I’ll give it.
Yeah, these might be the most vague first impressions yet!  :corn

Are they? Well most of the songs sound a lot alike. I guess it'd be like having a Dog Round and saying This one has long ears, and this one has fluffy fur.

I'll solve it in a bit.
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Post by: TAC on December 05, 2021, 01:35:55 PM
Here are the First Impressions for everyone!


Professor
Welcome Home
This song certainly is good.  But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.
The End Complete III: The End Complete
Parts of this are metal!

Vmadera
Gravemakers & Gunslinger
Pretty cool immediate rocker.
The Dark Sentencer
This is a cool song. I didn’t care for the swearing though.


Kingshmegland
Welcome Home
This song certainly is good.  But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.
The Dark Sentencer
This is a cool song. I didn’t care for the swearing though.


Buddy
Welcome Home
This song certainly is good.  But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.
In Keeping Secrets Of Silent Earth:3
This is almost epic


Romdrums
Welcome Home
This song certainly is good.  But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.
Key Entity Extaction IV:Evagria The Faithful
I didn’t not like this song, but I found it a tad unexciting.

Cyril
No World For Tomorrow
Enjoyable song. Not sure if it’ll stand out though.
The Willing Well IV:The Final Cut
That was really nice

Stadler
The Dark Sentencer
This is a cool song. I didn’t care for the swearing though.
Jessie’s Girl 2
WTF is this?


HOF
All On Fire
Not sure why….but I like this song.
Atlas
This is a nice song that needs to do a bit more to stand out.


LudwigVan
Key Entities Extraction V: Sentry The Defiant
For a relatively short song, this song has a lot of depth.
Goodnight Fair Lady
Thin Lizzy Round!



Puppies
Gravity’s Union
This takes a while to get there but it’s pretty satisfying in the end.
The Willing Well IV:The Final Cut
That was really nice



425
No World For Tomorrow
Enjoyable song. Not sure if it’ll stand out though.
Gravity’s Union
This takes a while to get there but it’s pretty satisfying in the end.


Lonestar
The Gutter
I like where this song went in the second half.
In Keeping Secrets Of Silent Earth:3
This is almost epic.


Elite
Welcome Home
This song certainly is good.  But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.
The Suffering
Hmm..I don’t know about this one.


Kwyjibo
Crossing The Frame
This feels pretty average.
Gravity’s Union
This takes a while to get there but it’s pretty satisfying in the end.


Ariich
Key Entity Extraction I: Domino The Destitute
This will take a few more listens to sink in.
Gravity’s Union
This takes a while to get there but it’s pretty satisfying in the end.


Evermind
Welcome Home
This song certainly is good.  But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.
Ten Speed (Of God’s Blood & Burial)
I suppose that sometimes it helps to actually know the song.

Wolfking
Welcome Home
This song certainly is good.  But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.
The Crowing
This was a bit iffy when it started, but it won me over.
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Post by: wolfking on December 05, 2021, 02:24:54 PM
That's good with The Crowing as I fell asleep half way through it.  :lol (Not cause of the song, just cause I was dog tired)
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Post by: TAC on December 05, 2021, 03:39:19 PM
2:46 of The End Complete   :metal
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Post by: Lonk on December 05, 2021, 04:31:20 PM
2:46 of The End Complete   :metal

They played that song in the recent tour (to my surprise) and it sounded soo good!, Not as good as The Final Cut but still.

https://youtu.be/pb7ZQPRGyMQ
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 05, 2021, 04:33:27 PM
2:46 of The End Complete   :metal

Had to rub my eyes. Is that one of my songs being raved about?!?!? That is my favorite Coheed album. Just something about it. Clicked on the first listen.
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Post by: TAC on December 05, 2021, 04:41:30 PM
2:46 of The End Complete   :metal

They played that song in the recent tour (to my surprise) and it sounded soo good!, Not as good as The Final Cut but still.

https://youtu.be/pb7ZQPRGyMQ

Other than Claudio, they look like dudes from the parent pickup line at school. :lol
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Post by: TAC on December 05, 2021, 04:45:23 PM

Had to rub my eyes.

I had to rub my ears.  ;D
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Post by: Lonk on December 05, 2021, 05:14:38 PM
2:46 of The End Complete   :metal

They played that song in the recent tour (to my surprise) and it sounded soo good!, Not as good as The Final Cut but still.

https://youtu.be/pb7ZQPRGyMQ

Other than Claudio, they look like dudes from the parent pickup line at school. :lol

I told the story before of me working at Guitar Center and Claudio being a regular customer when not on tour (Brooklyn store). But I also would see him at Comic Con every year when he was promoting The Amory Wars. You would think he was some geeky store owner if you don't know who he is.
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 05, 2021, 06:58:14 PM
Kinda funny how a lot of these bands defy expectations on how we think they would look.

I remember when the video for Threshold's Small Dark Lines came out I had the thought that the accounting firm of Groom & West looked ready to do my taxes. Just don't expect to hear that kind of music out of dudes that look like accountants or attorneys.
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Post by: TAC on December 05, 2021, 07:53:25 PM
The riff at 2:53 of The Crowing  :metal
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Post by: wolfking on December 05, 2021, 07:54:14 PM
Kinda funny how a lot of these bands defy expectations on how we think they would look.

I remember when the video for Threshold's Small Dark Lines came out I had the thought that the accounting firm of Groom & West looked ready to do my taxes. Just don't expect to hear that kind of music out of dudes that look like accountants or attorneys.

Watching Karl play live and play some very adequate guitar solos is quite a humbling and funny thing hey.  It's cool and refreshing.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 05, 2021, 07:54:35 PM
The riff at 2:53 of The Crowing  :metal

I should listen to the full thing hey!?
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Post by: TAC on December 05, 2021, 08:05:26 PM
The riff at 2:53 of The Crowing  :metal

I should listen to the full thing hey!?

The first half would be the half to sleep to. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 05, 2021, 08:06:27 PM
Kinda funny how a lot of these bands defy expectations on how we think they would look.

I remember when the video for Threshold's Small Dark Lines came out I had the thought that the accounting firm of Groom & West looked ready to do my taxes. Just don't expect to hear that kind of music out of dudes that look like accountants or attorneys.

I haven't listened to Threshold since Mac.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 05, 2021, 08:10:38 PM
Kinda funny how a lot of these bands defy expectations on how we think they would look.

I remember when the video for Threshold's Small Dark Lines came out I had the thought that the accounting firm of Groom & West looked ready to do my taxes. Just don't expect to hear that kind of music out of dudes that look like accountants or attorneys.

I haven't listened to Threshold since Mac.

Do you not like Glynn? He seems like he would be right up your alley.

I get people not being Damian fans, but Glynn is amazing.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 05, 2021, 08:13:06 PM
Last album was really good.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 05, 2021, 08:16:09 PM
Kinda funny how a lot of these bands defy expectations on how we think they would look.

I remember when the video for Threshold's Small Dark Lines came out I had the thought that the accounting firm of Groom & West looked ready to do my taxes. Just don't expect to hear that kind of music out of dudes that look like accountants or attorneys.

I haven't listened to Threshold since Mac.

Do you not like Glynn? He seems like he would be right up your alley.

I get people not being Damian fans, but Glynn is amazing.


Too many bands too little time.

He's been on the last couple albums right? I just haven't taken the time to really check them out. Don't really have a good reason other than to say that I just haven't been drawn to it.
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 05, 2021, 08:18:09 PM
Last studio and live album and he will be on the next one.

https://youtu.be/e9NCuOe4zJk

EDIT: Now I want to bust out Legends. I wore that album out when it came out. So good.
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Post by: TAC on December 05, 2021, 08:26:27 PM
Last studio and live album and he will be on the next one.

https://youtu.be/e9NCuOe4zJk

If that's the best song on the album, I'm not going to bother. ;D

And holy shit does that video fucking blow. I mean, the band footage is fine. Good actually. But the body painting? Fuck right off! Draw a line for each regret. What emo bullshit.

Sorry Professor..not directing that at you.  :lol
That video set me off. :lol :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 06, 2021, 12:07:45 AM
Last studio and live album and he will be on the next one.

https://youtu.be/e9NCuOe4zJk

If that's the best song on the album, I'm not going to bother. ;D

And holy shit does that video fucking blow. I mean, the band footage is fine. Good actually. But the body painting? Fuck right off! Draw a line for each regret. What emo bullshit.

Sorry Professor..not directing that at you.  :lol
That video set me off. :lol :lol

I have no idea what video this is or what the song is, but I can't wait to find out.  :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 06, 2021, 04:53:19 AM
How am I just realizing someone sent Jesse's Girl 2  :lol

You'd think J-Boy was playing again. ;D

Given the bands for the rest of the roulette, j-boy isn't even following the thread   ;D
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Post by: TAC on December 06, 2021, 02:56:09 PM
Just starting some writeups...

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on December 06, 2021, 03:01:30 PM
Just starting some writeups...

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/067/051/c52.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 06, 2021, 03:58:44 PM
How am I just realizing someone sent Jesse's Girl 2  :lol

You'd think J-Boy was playing again. ;D

Given the bands for the rest of the roulette, j-boy isn't even following the thread   ;D

Just starting some writeups...

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/067/051/c52.gif)


I see........
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 06, 2021, 04:02:51 PM
Last studio and live album and he will be on the next one.

https://youtu.be/e9NCuOe4zJk

If that's the best song on the album, I'm not going to bother. ;D

And holy shit does that video fucking blow. I mean, the band footage is fine. Good actually. But the body painting? Fuck right off! Draw a line for each regret. What emo bullshit.

Sorry Professor..not directing that at you.  :lol
That video set me off. :lol :lol

Lol, brilliant.  The video wasn't that bad.  :lol

But yeah, if you didn't like that song, stay well away.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 06, 2021, 04:05:34 PM
The song was ok I guess, and the band footage was excellent.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 06, 2021, 04:33:17 PM
The song was ok I guess, and the band footage was excellent.

Probably some attractive people painting themselves would have worked a bit better.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 06, 2021, 04:39:01 PM
The song was ok I guess, and the band footage was excellent.

Probably some attractive people painting themselves would have worked a bit better.  :lol

Ya think? :lol

Still, the concept blew. ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 06, 2021, 04:43:26 PM
Alright alright its dumb, I admit it, happy now?  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 06, 2021, 04:44:59 PM
Well, I don't regret it. ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 07, 2021, 03:14:16 AM
Listening to Bleak now, it's so fucking obvious it's Wilson singing.  Damn I feel like an absolute muppet!  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on December 07, 2021, 04:53:31 AM
Listening to Bleak now, it's so fucking obvious it's Wilson singing.  Damn I feel like an absolute muppet!  :facepalm:

(https://c.tenor.com/aK0LcuCciysAAAAM/llooll.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on December 07, 2021, 02:42:57 PM
Looking ahead, I think I have my songs from Opeth and Mastodon selected. I have no idea what to send from PT.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 07, 2021, 02:50:00 PM
I'm in the process of putting writeups together, which means I'm currently listening again. I have about half of the songs done.

Lots of good stuff.

A lot of these songs have a very simply structure..verse-chorus-verse-chorus-a bridge before or after the solo-closing chorus repeated.

Ranking them isn't really the problem, but what is taking time is that I usually do writeups while listening. But these songs end, and I realize I hadn't written anything, so I have to listen again to try and scratch out comments.

Lots of these songs are extremely solid and I like them, but there's just not a ton to point to like "Holy shit this part was awesome" or "That was incredible". What I'm finding is that these songs all have strong choruses, so the comments feel a bit slow coming.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: jingle.boy on December 07, 2021, 03:32:29 PM
Which is probably a by-product of doing a band-per-round roulette ... no matter how diverse the writing or recording, there's always going to be some elements of 'samey-ness' when you've to 25+ songs from the same artist
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 07, 2021, 03:40:01 PM
Which is probably a by-product of doing a band-per-round roulette ... no matter how diverse the writing or recording, there's always going to be some elements of 'samey-ness' when you've to 25+ songs from the same artist

Yeah. The Devin and Haken rounds had quite a bit of diversity. The BTBAM was exhausting to get through, and while the Neal Morse round certainly had diversity it was 27 fucking songs of Neal Morse! :lol


Samey isn't the word I'd use, because to me, samey has a negative connotation and this round is anything but negative.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 07, 2021, 03:47:54 PM
coheed are way more of a pop-leaning act than any other band in this roulette so this is not really surprising
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 07, 2021, 04:05:00 PM
Yeah, poppy in terms of structure, but I definitely don't think poppy while listening.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 07, 2021, 05:42:30 PM
I comend the time and patience you've put into this Tim.  I definitely wouldn't have the attention span for it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 07, 2021, 07:45:12 PM
It's cool. It's been totally worth it.


Anyway, finished the scratch writeups. Just have to work on final rankings and scores. I've really enjoyed this one.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 07, 2021, 07:53:16 PM
It's cool. It's been totally worth it.


Anyway, finished the scratch writeups. Just have to work on final rankings and scores. I've really enjoyed this one.
Sounds like we've done our jobs!  :metal :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 07, 2021, 08:18:36 PM
It's cool. It's been totally worth it.


Anyway, finished the scratch writeups. Just have to work on final rankings and scores. I've really enjoyed this one.
Sounds like we've done our jobs!  :metal :metal

Oh definitely. If I score a song 7.5, then I like it. I think there's only one song below that this round.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on December 07, 2021, 08:18:41 PM
It's cool. It's been totally worth it.


Anyway, finished the scratch writeups. Just have to work on final rankings and scores. I've really enjoyed this one.

That's awesome  :metal Coheed is a really fun band to listen to, so I'm sure you'll enjoy some of their other work.

One thing I'll add, Claudio is a hell of a front man, and their music really comes true live.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 07, 2021, 08:26:09 PM
LudwigVan mentioned C&C drawing on classic rock influencers. I made a number of comparisons in the writeups..

This has a great intro, acoustic then full band. Feels like some classic metal Rainbow/Sabbath/Maiden.
Martin Era Sabbath perhaps.

The solo at 4:10 reminded me of Paul Chapman’s solo in Waysted’s Land That’s Lost The Love.

I love the garage style of classic GnR with a touch of NWOBHM.

This song reminds me of U2.

The solo section feels like Pink Floyd/Led Zeppelin mashup.

The guitars at the beginning sound like something off of Unmasked.

Feels like Jimmy Page is playing underneath it.

This has a Thin Lizzy feel in the verses.

A tribute to Thin Lizzy, obviously.

This song has a real early 80’s feel to it.

The guitars remind me of Thin Lizzy.

The guitar reminds me of Janick Gers playing underneath the vocals and then by itself.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 07, 2021, 08:30:48 PM
*guy who has only ever listened to Thin Lizzy, listening to another band for the first time* hmm, getting Thin Lizzy vibes off this...

(i kid but also i am familiar with like two thin lizzy songs so i don't know what to do with that comparison myself  :lol)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on December 07, 2021, 08:34:04 PM
*guy who has only ever listened to Thin Lizzy, listening to another band for the first time* hmm, getting Thin Lizzy vibes off this...

(i kid but also i am familiar with like two thin lizzy songs so i don't know what to do with that comparison myself  :lol)

Was gonna say, I somehow missed all the songs that sound like Thin Lizzy when I was scanning the discography for things to send. But I’m also not as versed in Thin Lizzy as TAC.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 07, 2021, 08:38:07 PM
Goodnight Fair Lady is "the tribute to Thin Lizzy". Musically obviously, but also lots of lyrical references. 
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 07, 2021, 10:02:56 PM
Goodnight Fair Lady is "the tribute to Thin Lizzy". Musically obviously, but also lots of lyrical references.
I don't know why I never picked up on this before.....Learn something new every day. :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: LudwigVan on December 07, 2021, 10:57:16 PM
The Hard Sell isn’t in the roulette, but that guitar solo is all about David Gilmour.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on December 08, 2021, 06:51:19 AM
The Hard Sell isn’t in the roulette, but that guitar solo is all about David Gilmour.

Sent it with a wild card, got eliminated  :'(
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 08, 2021, 07:02:09 AM
Apparently The Hard Sell was a ...hard sell.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 08, 2021, 07:41:39 AM
Ranking the Entities..

1. Domino
2. Sentry
3. Evagria
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on December 08, 2021, 08:19:54 AM
Ranking the Entities..

1. Domino
2. Sentry
3. Evagria

Might be worth listening to the other 2 at some point, Holly Wood the Cracked and Vic the Butcher.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 08, 2021, 08:23:27 AM
Sentry Evagria, oh I want to take ya
Domino, Vic, come on pretty mama


Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 08, 2021, 08:54:28 AM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b2/d7/9a/b2d79a1c265e515add3c035fbd34a7b7.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 08, 2021, 04:29:02 PM
So the scores are tallied.

Scores by round:

Devin Townsend:8.0
Haken:7.8
BTBAM:7.75
Neal Morse:7.95
C&C:8.0
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 08, 2021, 04:31:39 PM
Coheed > Neal Morse, confirmed  :corn
Expecting I'm getting a worse score this round than last round though  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 08, 2021, 04:43:56 PM
Scoreheed & Camsults!



Professor

Welcome Home...8.0

This song certainly is good.  But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.

This has a great intro, acoustic then full band. Feels like some classic metal Rainbow/Sabbath/Maiden.
Martin Era Sabbath perhaps. Not a fan of mid tempo generally. But this keeps moving. Not sure who is who, but I like the guitarist in my right ear during the solo. The gang styled chants at the end of the solo are a nice touch. This song ultimately delivers even though I was getting worried during the initial verses.

The End Complete III: The End Complete...8.6

Parts of this are metal!

Is it me, or does the “Dig Deeper” part remind me of DT’s Losing Time chorus? I love where this song goes at 2:48. Sick! The solo at 4:10 reminded me of Paul Chapman’s solo in Waysted’s Land That’s Lost The Love. Now, if we could’ve just cut off the last minute and a half…
8.0+8.6=16.6/2=8.3


Vmadera

Gravemakers & Gunslinger...8.8

Pretty cool immediate rocker.

Now this is how I like music. Up tempo. I love the garage style of classic GnR with a touch of NWOBHM.
The Hello Kitty voice in the middle call back section was a little strange though. Really excellent solo. Definite winner!


The Dark Sentencer...8.4

This is a cool song. I didn’t care for the swearing though.

This song has some similarities with Welcome Home through the first few minutes, albeit at a slightly quicker tempo. I’ am really not a fan of the use of swearing through the song though. Once,..ok, fine. Unless this is some comic book character and that’s his calling card, but even still. I love the “Welcome Home” part with the gang vocals on the beat. An excellent outro.
I like the way this ends, but it feels a tad long. Still a good song though.
8.8+8.4=19.2/2=8.6



Kingshmegland

Welcome Home...8.0

This song certainly is good.  But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.

This has a great intro, acoustic then full band. Feels like some classic metal Rainbow/Sabbath/Maiden.
Martin Era Sabbath perhaps. Not a fan of mid tempo generally. But this keeps moving. Not sure who is who, but I like the guitarist in my right ear during the solo. The gang styled chants at the end of the solo are a nice touch. This song ultimately delivers even though I was getting worried during the initial verses.

The Dark Sentencer...8.4

This is a cool song. I didn’t care for the swearing though.

This song has some similarities with Welcome Home through the first few minutes, albeit at a slightly quicker tempo. I’ am really not a fan of the use of swearing through the song though. Once,..ok, fine. Unless this is some comic book character and that’s his calling card, but even still. I love the “Welcome Home” part with the gang vocals on the beat. An excellent outro.
I like the way this ends, but it feels a tad long. Still a good song though.
8.0+8.4=16.4/2=8.2


Buddy

Welcome Home...8.0

This song certainly is good.  But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.

This has a great intro, acoustic then full band. Feels like some classic metal Rainbow/Sabbath/Maiden.
Martin Era Sabbath perhaps. Not a fan of mid tempo generally. But this keeps moving. Not sure who is who, but I like the guitarist in my right ear during the solo. The gang styled chants at the end of the solo are a nice touch. This song ultimately delivers even though I was getting worried during the initial verses.

In Keeping Secrets Of Silent Earth:3...8.4

This is almost epic

Cool intro. Feels like something good is coming up. I like the rhythm for the verse. Another fantastic chorus. The bridge in this is cool. I love how they ramp it up, and pull it back.  From 6:53 on, it’s glorious, and reminds me of Constantine’s The Darkest Grace.
8.0+8.4=16.4/2=8.2


Romdrums

Welcome Home...8.0

This song certainly is good.  But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.

This has a great intro, acoustic then full band. Feels like some classic metal Rainbow/Sabbath/Maiden.
Martin Era Sabbath perhaps. Not a fan of mid tempo generally. But this keeps moving. Not sure who is who, but I like the guitarist in my right ear during the solo. The gang styled chants at the end of the solo are a nice touch. This song ultimately delivers even though I was getting worried during the initial verses.

Key Entity Extaction IV:Evagria The Faithful...7.6

I didn’t not like this song, but I found it a tad unexciting.

This song reminds me of U2. The thing about this song is that it starts and eventually ends, and I just can’t put my finger on what happens in the middle. It’s not unpleasant by any stretch. It’s actually quite nice, yet fairly unremarkable.
8.0+7.6=15.6/2=7.8



Cyril

No World For Tomorrow...8.0

Enjoyable song. Not sure if it’ll stand out though.

I don’t know if I have a lot of specific comments about this song, other than to say that I did like it, not love it. It might have one of my least favorite vocals too. If this was the only song I’d heard, I’m not sure I’d be convinced to follow up on C&C.

The Willing Well IV:The Final Cut...8.7

That was really nice

This features some real nice and steady guitar work. The vocal sections really do a great job of setting up the magnificent solo section. The solo section feels like Pink Floyd/Led Zeppelin mashup. The solos are really powerful, and while the song doesn’t offer much deviance, that’s just fine, and this song maintains it’s quality throughout.
8.0+8.7=16.7/2=8.35


Stadler

The Dark Sentencer...8.4

This is a cool song. I didn’t care for the swearing though.

This song has some similarities with Welcome Home through the first few minutes, albeit at a slightly quicker tempo. I’ am really not a fan of the use of swearing through the song though. Once,..ok, fine. Unless this is some comic book character and that’s his calling card, but even still. I love the “Welcome Home” part with the gang vocals on the beat. An excellent outro.
I like the way this ends, but it feels a tad long. Still a good song though.


Jessie’s Girl 2...7.3

WTF is this?

The guitars at the beginning sound like something off of Unmasked. But that’s all I have for this.
8.4+7.3=15.7/2=7.85



HOF

All On Fire...8.0

Not sure why….but I like this song.

Nice piano intro. Upbeat track with interesting drumming. The chorus is really strong. The bridge at 2:50 is nice bit. Feels like Jimmy Page is playing underneath it. There’s something sticky sweet about this song that I really enjoy. Kind of sneaks up on you.

Atlas...7.9

This is a nice song that needs to do a bit more to stand out.

This has a Thin Lizzy feel in the verses. Really well built chorus. Great vocal on this song. The lyrics are really interesting. The final repeated chorus is really powerful. I liked this song a little more every time I listened to it. A real grower.
8.0+7.9=15.9/2=7.95


LudwigVan

Key Entities Extraction V: Sentry The Defiant...8.0

For a relatively short song, this song has a lot of depth.

This song has a strength about it. It’s solid, but feels heavy. There’s some tasty lead licks playing behind the vocals at times. The song is a tad unremarkable in a way, yet it’s still powerful.

Goodnight Fair Lady...8.6

Thin Lizzy Round!

A tribute to Thin Lizzy, obviously. Even lyrically. Kind of like what Dangerous Toys did for Alice Cooper with Scared.
8.0+8.6=16.6/2=8.3



Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 08, 2021, 04:44:17 PM
Puppies

Gravity’s Union...7.7

This takes a while to get there but it’s pretty satisfying in the end.

This song begins and ends with a tortured pig. In between, we have a solid, if unspectatular song. The chorus is quite nice, and the outro part before the pig returns is really good. The lead guitar from 3:55 through next softer part is excellent.
Solid track.


The Willing Well IV:The Final Cut...8.7

That was really nice

This features some real nice and steady guitar work. The vocal sections really do a great job of setting up the magnificent solo section. The solo section feels like Pink Floyd/Led Zeppelin mashup. The solos are really powerful, and while the song doesn’t offer much deviance, that’s just fine, and this song maintains it’s quality throughout.
7.7+8.7=16.4/2=8.20


425

No World For Tomorrow...8.0

Enjoyable song. Not sure if it’ll stand out though.

I don’t know if I have a lot of specific comments about this song, other than to say that I did like it, not love it. It might have one of my least favorite vocals too. If this was the only song I’d heard, I’m not sure I’d be convinced to follow up on C&C.

Gravity’s Union...7.7

This takes a while to get there but it’s pretty satisfying in the end.

This song begins and ends with a tortured pig. In between, we have a solid, if unspectatular song. The chorus is quite nice, and the outro part before the pig returns is really good. The lead guitar from 3:55 through next softer part is excellent.
Solid track.
8.0+7.7=15.7/2=7.85


Lonestar

The Gutter...7.6

I like where this song went in the second half.

This is really a song of two halfs. The first half is fairly forgettable, but the second half is beautiful and memorable. Perhaps, it’s not as beautiful without the first half, but I doubt it.

In Keeping Secrets Of Silent Earth:3...8.4

This is almost epic.

Cool intro. Feels like something good is coming up. I like the rhythm for the verse. Another fantastic chorus. The bridge in this is cool. I love how they ramp it up, and pull it back.  From 6:53 on, it’s glorious, and reminds me of Constantine’s The Darkest Grace.
7.6+8.4=16/2=8.0


Elite

Welcome Home...8.0

This song certainly is good.  But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.

This has a great intro, acoustic then full band. Feels like some classic metal Rainbow/Sabbath/Maiden.
Martin Era Sabbath perhaps. Not a fan of mid tempo generally. But this keeps moving. Not sure who is who, but I like the guitarist in my right ear during the solo. The gang styled chants at the end of the solo are a nice touch. This song ultimately delivers even though I was getting worried during the initial verses.


The Suffering...7.6

Hmm..I don’t know about this one.

This song didn’t do well on the first listen, but I must say the chorus became kind of an earworm.
8.0+7.6=15.6/2=7.8

Kwyjibo

Crossing The Frame...7.5

This feels pretty average.

This song has a real early 80’s feel to it. It’s fairly ordinary though. The bridge is really nice with the female vocals, especially the second lines when Claudio comes back in. A pleasant listen for sure.

Gravity’s Union...7.7

This takes a while to get there but it’s pretty satisfying in the end.

This song begins and ends with a tortured pig. In between, we have a solid, if unspectatular song. The chorus is quite nice, and the outro part before the pig returns is really good. The lead guitar from 3:55 through next softer part is excellent.
Solid track.
7.5+7.7=15.2/2=7.6


Ariich

Key Entity Extraction I: Domino The Destitute...8.4

This will take a few more listens to sink in.

Cool guitar intro and interesting drum pattern in the verses. The chorus in this song is amazing. The last line of it has a power metal feel to it. The bridge never loses it’s pace despite a drop in tempo. Couldn’t wait for the final chorus on this. This song doesn’t feel 8 minutes long. Really cool.

Gravity’s Union...7.7

This takes a while to get there but it’s pretty satisfying in the end.

This song begins and ends with a tortured pig. In between, we have a solid, if unspectatular song. The chorus is quite nice, and the outro part before the pig returns is really good. The lead guitar from 3:55 through next softer part is excellent.
Solid track.
8.4+7.7=16.1/2=8.05


Evermind

Welcome Home...8.0

This song certainly is good.  But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.

This has a great intro, acoustic then full band. Feels like some classic metal Rainbow/Sabbath/Maiden.
Martin Era Sabbath perhaps. Not a fan of mid tempo generally. But this keeps moving. Not sure who is who, but I like the guitarist in my right ear during the solo. The gang styled chants at the end of the solo are a nice touch. This song ultimately delivers even though I was getting worried during the initial verses.


Ten Speed (Of God’s Blood & Burial)...7.6

I suppose that sometimes it helps to actually know the song.

I was not impressed on first listen. This has gotten better with each listen though. The guitars remind me of Thin Lizzy.
8.0+7.6=15.6/2=7.8


Wolfking

Welcome Home...8.0

This song certainly is good.  But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.

This has a great intro, acoustic then full band. Feels like some classic metal Rainbow/Sabbath/Maiden.
Martin Era Sabbath perhaps. Not a fan of mid tempo generally. But this keeps moving. Not sure who is who, but I like the guitarist in my right ear during the solo. The gang styled chants at the end of the solo are a nice touch. This song ultimately delivers even though I was getting worried during the initial verses.


The Crowing...7.8

This was a bit iffy when it started, but it won me over.

This has kind of a slow (to excite, not tempo) opening. The song seems to wake up a bit around 2:10. The guitar reminds me of Jannick Gers playing underneath the vocals and then by themselves. Love the riff at 2:55. The song dips a bit in the middle, but gears back up for a satisfying ending.
8.0+7.8=15.8/2=7.9
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 08, 2021, 04:44:37 PM
Round 5 Results


Vmadera...8.60
Cyril...8.35
LugwigVan...8.30
Professor...8.30
Kingshmegland...8.20
Buddy...8.20
Puppies...8.20
Ariich...8.05
Lonestar...8.00
HOF...7.95
Wolfking...7.90
425...7.85
Stadler...7.85
Elite...7.80
Romdrums...7.80
Evermind...7.80
Kwyjibo...7.60




Standings!



Puppies...8.60+8.15+8.25+8.35+8.20=41.55
Ariich...9.0+8.15+7.60+7.85+8.05=40.65
Cyril...7.55+8.25+7.95+8.45+8.35=40.65
VMadera...8.45+7.35+7.95+8.30+8.60=40.65
Kwyjibo...7.80+8.75+7.65+8.15=32.35+7.60=39.95
Kingshmegland...7.70+8.25+7.85+7.85+8.20=39.85
Romdrums...8.25+7.65+8.25+7.8=31.95+7.80=39.75
LudwigVan...8.35+7.55+7.35+7.90+8.30=39.45
Wolfking...7.80+7.6+8.10+8.0+7.90=39.40
425...7.90+7.40+7.65+8.45+7.85=39.25
Buddy...7.05+8.15+7.75+8.05+8.20=39.20
Professor...8.20+7.6+7.0+8.05+8.30=39.15
Stadler...8.50+7.75+7.35+7.55+7.85=39.00
Evermind...8.20+7.75+7.55+7.45=30.95+7.80=38.75
HOF...7.65+7.50+8.05+7.60+7.95=38.75
Elite...7.50+7.75+7.60+7.90+7.80=38.55
Lonestar...7.80+7.25+7.85+7.40+8.0=38.30




As always, check my math!!

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 08, 2021, 04:49:09 PM
As always, check my math!!

Does anyone actually do this?  I know I sure as hell don't.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scoreheed!
Post by: Lonk on December 08, 2021, 04:50:40 PM
Well that was unexpected! :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scoreheed!
Post by: TAC on December 08, 2021, 04:52:01 PM
As always, check my math!!

Does anyone actually do this?  I know I sure as hell don't.

Mistakes do get pointed out, though miraculously, it hasn't happened yet in this roulette.
For some reason, this one has been the hardest to keep straight.



Well that was unexpected! :metal

Tell me about it! :P
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scoreheed!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 08, 2021, 05:02:04 PM
Sent for Opeth.
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Post by: wolfking on December 08, 2021, 05:07:07 PM
Sent for Opeth.

Same.  Not a lot of thought for this one truthfully.  Ghost Reveries is by far the best thing from Opeth for me and not liking their later stuff, narrowed down the choices but the two songs I sent are pretty clear cut on what I enjoy from them.
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 08, 2021, 05:13:16 PM
Sent for Opeth.

Same.  Not a lot of thought for this one truthfully.  Ghost Reveries is by far the best thing from Opeth for me and not liking their later stuff, narrowed down the choices but the two songs I sent are pretty clear cut on what I enjoy from them.

If I was bold, I would have sent something from Orchid, but I don't think he'd care for that record. I love it, personally.
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Post by: TAC on December 08, 2021, 05:13:53 PM
I don't think I'd care for any of them. :lol

We'll see.
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Post by: Crow on December 08, 2021, 05:14:56 PM
Coheed > Neal Morse, confirmed  :corn
Expecting I'm getting a worse score this round than last round though  :lol
Technically, yes  :rollin though second in the round overall anyways  :corn
In Keeping Secrets would totally have been my rocker pick if I felt more confident in the vocals too, woops
Sticking to my Opethy guns, I think
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 08, 2021, 05:29:05 PM
I suspect my trend of doing better with bands I'm less familiar with will continue into this next round. :lol
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Post by: TAC on December 08, 2021, 05:31:20 PM
Coheed > Neal Morse, confirmed  :corn
Expecting I'm getting a worse score this round than last round though  :lol
Technically, yes  :rollin though second in the round overall anyways  :corn
In Keeping Secrets would totally have been my rocker pick if I felt more confident in the vocals too, woops
Sticking to my Opethy guns, I think

There's a badassness about In Keeping Secrets though.

I really had no idea where No World For Tomorrow would end up when I had my first listen. But it was steadfastly solid, and I really couldn't argue much over it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scoreheed!
Post by: TAC on December 08, 2021, 05:31:59 PM
I suspect my trend of doing better with bands I'm less familiar with will continue into this next round. :lol

 :lol

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Post by: wolfking on December 08, 2021, 05:45:46 PM
Sent for Opeth.

Same.  Not a lot of thought for this one truthfully.  Ghost Reveries is by far the best thing from Opeth for me and not liking their later stuff, narrowed down the choices but the two songs I sent are pretty clear cut on what I enjoy from them.

If I was bold, I would have sent something from Orchid, but I don't think he'd care for that record. I love it, personally.

I'm definitely not bold then.
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Post by: LudwigVan on December 08, 2021, 06:22:59 PM
 :metal Happy to see that TAC has taken a positive shine to C&C.
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Post by: HOF on December 08, 2021, 06:24:59 PM
Amazing that my best scores have been for BTBAM and C&C so far.
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Post by: TAC on December 08, 2021, 06:39:36 PM
:metal Happy to see that TAC has taken a positive shine to C&C.

Yes, very impressed! That round was really easy in the ears.
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Post by: TAC on December 08, 2021, 06:52:58 PM
5 people in for Opeth...and I'm at an hour and a half.

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Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 08, 2021, 07:04:29 PM
Quick! Someone send Black Rose Immortal. That'll add another 20 min to his time.
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Post by: HOF on December 08, 2021, 07:36:51 PM
Just added another 12 minutes (would be surprised if anyone else sends what I did).
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Post by: TAC on December 08, 2021, 07:44:59 PM
Just added another 12 minutes (would be surprised if anyone else sends what I did).

One song has been sent already. ;D


No actual titles to be discussed in the thread until everyone is in.
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Post by: HOF on December 08, 2021, 07:50:24 PM
Just added another 12 minutes (would be surprised if anyone else sends what I did).

One song has been sent already. ;D


No actual titles to be discussed in the thread until everyone is in.

Ah, less work for you then!
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Post by: TAC on December 08, 2021, 07:51:32 PM
Yes, plus I am currently in the process of eliminating someone's Wild Card™.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 08, 2021, 07:52:38 PM
5 people in for Opeth...and I'm at an hour and a half.

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Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scoreheed!
Post by: TAC on December 08, 2021, 08:01:32 PM
Amazing that my best scores have been for BTBAM and C&C so far.

Let that sink in.. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scoreheed!
Post by: 425 on December 08, 2021, 08:30:00 PM
I did not expect those songs to perform so low, relatively speaking! I know the sound you're talking about not liking on Gravity's Union, but I can't say that's ever really bothered me, personally. And NWFT to me is just all killer all the way through, so that's one of those "tastes" moments. I do think it's cool that Gravemakers and Gunslingers did so well. That's not a song I ever really think of except when I'm listening to that album, but it's really good.

I don't have a solid idea of the right way to approach Opeth here, so I'm just going to send two songs I like from the era that is more likely to perform well, I guess.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scoreheed!
Post by: TAC on December 08, 2021, 08:34:33 PM
I did not expect those songs to perform so low, relatively speaking! I know the sound you're talking about not liking on Gravity's Union, but I can't say that's ever really bothered me, personally. And NWFT to me is just all killer all the way through, so that's one of those "tastes" moments.

NWFT got the 5th best score given in the round with only 6 other songs above it. I'd say it scored fairly well.  :)

I didn't not like Gravity's Union, and I could easily look past the pig. But for me, I just thought there were better songs.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scoreheed!
Post by: 425 on December 08, 2021, 08:36:52 PM
I guess I should learn to compare the scores instead of just reading the writeups!

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Post by: TAC on December 08, 2021, 08:41:16 PM
I guess I should learn to compare the scores instead of just reading the writeups!

Well, that's a brutal writeup I did for NWFT. Let's just say it grew on me. ;D

That writeup could've used some amending.

I feel like I might've had a copy/paste issue at some point.
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 08, 2021, 09:04:57 PM
Yes, plus I am currently in the process of eliminating someone's Wild Card™.

 :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scoreheed!
Post by: TAC on December 08, 2021, 09:17:19 PM
8 people in
13 songs
1h58m
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Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 08, 2021, 10:09:09 PM
8 people in
13 songs
1h58m
Just sent...


Also, amazingly, I'm still in the lead!  :metal
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Post by: wolfking on December 08, 2021, 11:20:02 PM
I guess I should learn to compare the scores instead of just reading the writeups!

You should learn to clear out your inbox mate.
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Post by: Elite on December 09, 2021, 01:13:46 AM
Sent for Opeth, which was very difficult, because they have so many great songs.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 09, 2021, 01:51:17 AM
Ouch, guess generating some random numbers with excel and then sending the corresponding songs doesn't really work for me.  ;D

Will sent for Opeth in a bit, should I sent what probably most people will send or should I go down a different road?
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Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2021, 03:29:16 AM
Ouch, guess generating some random numbers with excel and then sending the corresponding songs doesn't really work for me.  ;D

Will sent for Opeth in a bit, should I sent what probably most people will send or should I go down a different road?

What will most people send?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scoreheed!
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 09, 2021, 04:04:49 AM
Ouch, guess generating some random numbers with excel and then sending the corresponding songs doesn't really work for me.  ;D

Will sent for Opeth in a bit, should I sent what probably most people will send or should I go down a different road?

What will most people send?

We'll see, but I'm quite sure, that my choices aren't solely sent by me.

Also: sent
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Post by: Elite on December 09, 2021, 04:10:03 AM
I figured TAC would get Bleak at least three times, so I sent something different
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Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2021, 04:22:02 AM
I did not send Bleak.
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Post by: Lonk on December 09, 2021, 06:42:27 AM
Sent! At first I thought the songs I was sending would be somewhat unique, but they are both in the top 10 for Opeth on Spotify, so now I expect both songs were sent by others  :)
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 09, 2021, 07:23:28 AM
Both of my songs are pre-Heritage

One of them is an obvious long song (but which one?!?!) that I love to death but might be too much for Tim
The other is one of their best blends of prog and metal imo but might be too weird for Tim

I don't expect to do very well this round. :lol
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Post by: TAC on December 09, 2021, 07:23:45 AM
Sent! At first I thought the songs I was sending would be somewhat unique, but they are both in the top 10 for Opeth on Spotify, so now I expect both songs were sent by others  :)

One of them has been sent twice already.
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Post by: TAC on December 09, 2021, 07:26:35 AM
14 in
18 songs
2h40m


Waiting on..
Evermind
Stadler
LudwigVan
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scoreheed!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 09, 2021, 07:26:45 AM
Sent! At first I thought the songs I was sending would be somewhat unique, but they are both in the top 10 for Opeth on Spotify, so now I expect both songs were sent by others  :)

Their top 10 on Spotify is fucking weird. Some obvious ones on there like Ghost Of Perdition and Windowpane but why is their Soldier Of Fortune cover at #2? Why the fuck is Persephone there? :lol
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 09, 2021, 08:04:26 AM
These top 10 lists on spotify are shit. I noticed that for other artists before.

Persephone has 4 million plays and is in the top 10, Harvest has 9 million plays and is not in.

There's probably some logic behind it, that I don't understand.
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 09, 2021, 08:38:10 AM
I did not send Bleak.

Nor I, even though it probably is my favorite. I assumed he'd get at least 5 Bleaks from others. I went wild card this round. 2 songs pre-Blackwater and 1 post-Heritage. I tend to think I went a bit obscure on my early picks, but we'll see.

I'll see how Bleak does here and then maybe send it in the PT round.  :biggrin:
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Post by: Lonk on December 09, 2021, 08:45:10 AM
I'll see how Bleak does here and then maybe send it in the PT round.  :biggrin:

 :lol
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Post by: ariich on December 09, 2021, 08:45:13 AM
These top 10 lists on spotify are shit. I noticed that for other artists before.

Persephone has 4 million plays and is in the top 10, Harvest has 9 million plays and is not in.

There's probably some logic behind it, that I don't understand.
I think that songs that are on popular curated playlists can sometimes get a lot of plays. Like that Soldier of Fortune cover could be on various cover song compilation playlists.

I also did not send Bleak but similarly sent two pre-Heritage songs. (I like post-Heritage just fine, Heritage itself is kind of eh)
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 09, 2021, 08:51:31 AM
That Soldier Of Fortune cover is spectacular. I'd fight anybody that criticizes Mikael's vocals on that song. He is awesome on that track. That track is the pinnacle of his clean singing.

Heritage is my least favorite Opeth album. Many would cite Orchid, but as I mentioned earlier, I adore that album. The guitar harmonies that Mikael now calls hokey, I absolutely love. I'm not as big on Morningrise, but it's still light-years better than Heritage.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 09, 2021, 08:56:42 AM
Heritage is just a big disappointment. And no, it's not that there are no growls, it's because there are no good songs.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scoreheed!
Post by: 425 on December 09, 2021, 08:59:02 AM
I love Heritage. It and Watershed remain my favorite Opeth albums.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scoreheed!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 09, 2021, 09:07:38 AM
Heritage is just a big disappointment. And no, it's not that there are no growls, it's because there are no good songs.

Out of the last 3 it's my least favorite.  I'd rank the last three albums from worst to best as they came out.  I think they are just getting better figuring out how to write heavy without the growls.
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Post by: Evermind on December 09, 2021, 09:15:09 AM
14 in
18 songs
2h40m


Waiting on..
Evermind
Stadler
LudwigVan

It hasn't even been 24 hours, what's up with the name shaming?

Also yeah I definitely should've sent The Final Cut.
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Post by: TAC on December 09, 2021, 09:23:03 AM
Do you feel shame? :blush   :lol


No, that's not my intent.  You'll know when it's my intent! :P

It just helps me keep things straight.

We've all run roulettes before, and know that the listening is the easy part. It's the typing/formatting/organizing that is the pain in the ass, and this roulette, for some reason, has given me nightmares in this regard.
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Post by: Evermind on December 09, 2021, 09:26:14 AM
Do you feel shame? :blush   :lol

Definitely not anymore because I just sent :lol
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Post by: Stadler on December 09, 2021, 09:27:02 AM
Yay me with the worst song of the round!!!!   

I'll have Opeth to you by end of the day, most likely.
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Post by: TAC on December 09, 2021, 09:31:57 AM
Yay me with the worst song of the round!!!!   

I'll have Opeth to you by end of the day, most likely.

 :tup
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Post by: Crow on December 09, 2021, 10:49:34 AM
both of my songs have been sent multiple times, i'm sure

i'm not going with the most unique picks i'm going with the best ones
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 09, 2021, 11:01:46 AM
both of my songs have been sent multiple times, i'm sure

i'm not going with the most unique picks i'm going with the best ones

Oh, so you sent the same songs as me.  :D
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Post by: Elite on December 09, 2021, 11:16:06 AM
both of my songs have been sent multiple times, i'm sure

i'm not going with the most unique picks i'm going with the best ones

I sent the worst ones
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scoreheed!
Post by: Crow on December 09, 2021, 11:30:00 AM
When TAC hates every song there is no difference between best and worst  :corn
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Post by: LudwigVan on December 09, 2021, 11:31:24 AM
When TAC hates every song there is no difference between best and worst  :corn

My mindset was to try and send the songs he would hate the least  :P
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scoreheed!
Post by: Crow on December 09, 2021, 11:32:18 AM
We've all failed that challenge!
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Post by: Evermind on December 09, 2021, 11:35:27 AM
I think no one sent the songs I sent, but then as I said in PM to Tim, I'm not exactly competing for the first place :biggrin:

Pity Heritage is banned, I would've sent Folklore
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scoreheed!
Post by: 425 on December 09, 2021, 11:59:23 AM
Folklore is so good.
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 09, 2021, 12:05:23 PM
I'm a Heritage defender. It's their best post-Watershed album for sure. Dunno how people can say it has no good songs when The Devil's Orchard and Folklore exist. And while Sorceress and In Cauda Venenum might be heavier, Heritage makes up for it with much more atmosphere, which is one of the most important things about Opeth. Songs like Haxprocess and Famine are so fucking dark and dreary and I love it.

Whenever someone criticizes Heritage I just swap it out with Pale Communion in my mind and suddenly the points make a lot more sense. :biggrin:
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Post by: 425 on December 09, 2021, 12:09:32 PM
I definitely agree with all of that. The atmosphere on that album is so powerful. Besides the four you pointed to, I'd also mention I Feel the Dark as a good song with a ton of atmosphere.

Pale Communion and Sorceress don't do much for me. They're both alright, but not particularly inspiring. I like In Cauda Venenum a lot better than them, but I wouldn't put it on the same level as Heritage.
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Post by: Evermind on December 09, 2021, 12:15:12 PM
I think Pale Communion in particular is excellent (so is Heritage, but I prefer PC). Sorceress has some good tracks, but I could easily skip half of it.

I'm not very familiar with In Cauda Venenum, to be honest. I need to give it a few more listens.
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Post by: Crow on December 09, 2021, 12:25:42 PM
none of the post-growlpeth albums do a ton for me but uhh. i don't really remember any of heritage, i kinda liked pale communion but wouldn't relisten to it, sorceress i literally only listened to like twice, in cauda venenum i thought was solid but nothing amazing either. didn't consider any of these albums at all in my submissions  :lol
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Post by: Elite on December 09, 2021, 12:30:02 PM
none of the post-growlpeth albums do a ton for me but uhh. i don't really remember any of heritage, i kinda liked pale communion but wouldn't relisten to it, sorceress i literally only listened to like twice, in cauda venenum i thought was solid but nothing amazing either. didn't consider any of these albums at all in my submissions  :lol

This is me, except I actually do know Heritage quite well
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scoreheed!
Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2021, 01:10:24 PM
I completely lost interest from Heritage onwards.  Can't get into anything they've done since that album.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scoreheed!
Post by: TAC on December 09, 2021, 08:46:33 PM
Well I made through the 21 song/3 hour playlist. I know Stadler is spending the night listening to the Opeth discography and will send hopefully tomorrow.

I realized that after about the 12th song that I hadn't written any First Impressions. So guess what..no first impressions this round!

But I will post some tidbits as I listen..

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scoreheed!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 09, 2021, 08:51:25 PM
I did not send Bleak.

Nor I, even though it probably is my favorite. I assumed he'd get at least 5 Bleaks from others. I went wild card this round. 2 songs pre-Blackwater and 1 post-Heritage. I tend to think I went a bit obscure on my early picks, but we'll see.

I'll see how Bleak does here and then maybe send it in the PT round.  :biggrin:
Ooh, 2 pre-Blackwater Park songs is a ballsy move. Curious how that turns out. I almost sent something from My Arms, Your Hearse, but chickened out in the end.


And it appears nobody sent Bleak, considering the comments so far  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 09, 2021, 08:57:10 PM
I don't want to discuss songs until everybody is in.
Which meant that I had to modify my previous post. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scoreheed!
Post by: Lonk on December 09, 2021, 09:00:44 PM
I did not send Bleak.

Nor I, even though it probably is my favorite. I assumed he'd get at least 5 Bleaks from others. I went wild card this round. 2 songs pre-Blackwater and 1 post-Heritage. I tend to think I went a bit obscure on my early picks, but we'll see.

I'll see how Bleak does here and then maybe send it in the PT round.  :biggrin:
Ooh, 2 pre-Blackwater Park songs is a ballsy move. Curious how that turns out. I almost sent something from My Arms, Your Hearse, but chickened out in the end.


And it appears nobody sent Bleak, considering the comments so far  :lol

I almost sent something from Morningrise and chickened out as well  :lol
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 09, 2021, 09:44:13 PM
MAYH is one of their best albums though. I considered sending Karma. Demon Of The Fall would probably do decently well and I'd be surprised if nobody sent it.
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Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 09, 2021, 09:50:51 PM
MAYH is one of their best albums though. I considered sending Karma. Demon Of The Fall would probably do decently well and I'd be surprised if nobody sent it.
MAYH is second only the Ghost Reveries, in my opinion.   :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 09, 2021, 10:47:44 PM
Stadler should just send their covers of Soldier Of Fortune and Bridge Of Sighs. He'd probably win the round too.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2021, 04:17:49 AM
Stadler should just send their covers of Soldier Of Fortune and Bridge Of Sighs. He'd probably win the round too.  :lol

No he wouldn’t.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2021, 04:29:22 AM
Stadler should just send their covers of Soldier Of Fortune and Bridge Of Sighs. He'd probably win the round too.  :lol

No he wouldn’t.

Good, I'd sincerely hope not.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Stadler on December 10, 2021, 06:53:01 AM
Stadler should just send their covers of Soldier Of Fortune and Bridge Of Sighs. He'd probably win the round too.  :lol

No he wouldn’t.

Good, I'd sincerely hope not.

I'm in.   I listened to the first part of Soldier of Fortune (I didn't listen all the way through) and what I heard was nice, but didn't bring anything new to the table.  I submitted two songs, but I can't tell you how many times I was like "wow, this is musically way better than I remember..." then the vocals kicked in and I was like, "nope, this is what I remember!".    I get it, contrast, light and dark, blah blah blah, but nah, I'm good.  :)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on December 10, 2021, 06:56:19 AM
You probably sent bad songs then :neverusethis:



Have you tried either Damnation or the post-Heritage albums at all? There's no growls on those :)




More than any other round, I'm really, really curious to know what everyone has submitted!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Stadler on December 10, 2021, 07:22:22 AM
You probably sent bad songs then :neverusethis:

Look at my scores!  You KNOW this is true!  :) :) :)

Quote
Have you tried either Damnation or the post-Heritage albums at all? There's no growls on those :)




More than any other round, I'm really, really curious to know what everyone has submitted!

No, I listened to a fair amount of music that didn't have growls, and it was pretty good. 
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2021, 01:50:57 PM
Here are the entries!

Cyril
Bleak
Deliverance

Romdrums
The Leper Affinity
The Lotus Eater

Professor
Godhead’s Lament
When

Wolfking
Deliverence
Windowpane

Buddy
The Lotus Eater
Blackwater Park

HOF
Windowpane
Hope Leaves

425
Heir Apparent
The Lotus Eater

Lonestar
Dirge For November
Master’s Apprentice

Puppies
The Drapery Falls
Deliverance

Ariich
The Drapery Falls
Burden

Elite
When
April Ethereal

Kwyjibo
Bleak
The Drapery Falls

Vmadera
Face Of Melinda
Windopane

Kingshmegland
Sorceress
Dignity

Evermind
Will O The Wisp
Faith In Others

LudwigVan
The Funeral Portrait
The Drapery Falls

Stadler
Chrysalis
Harvest


Playlist here:
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2mzo5S9TodLCdoHLJvexNX?si=a598bda76d124d82
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 10, 2021, 01:56:41 PM
HOF has the biggest balls and/or biggest distaste for Opeth of us all  :lol

surprised to see only one other bleak submission. a bit less surprised to see a few other deliverance submissions.
the drapery falls is not a bad pick either to be fair

the sacred triangle this time around appears to be me/puppies/kwy
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 10, 2021, 01:56:45 PM
Wow, and I thought I was bold sticking with MAYH and Still Life. Elite going all in on MAYH.

I'm also happy with my wild card elimination. Well, I hope I am. It was a backup and seeing it beat out the other 2 is at least somewhat encouraging.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: v_clortho on December 10, 2021, 01:57:26 PM
I'm surprised "Ghost of Perdition" wasn't sent
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2021, 01:58:07 PM
I'm surprised "Ghost of Perdition" wasn't sent

Ghost Reveries and Heritage are banned.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 10, 2021, 02:00:00 PM
I'm surprised "Ghost of Perdition" wasn't sent

Ghost Reveries and Heritage are banned.

Um, something seems off with Stads second song.

I'm going to guess that's Harvest and not Heritage?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 10, 2021, 02:00:53 PM
I'm surprised "Ghost of Perdition" wasn't sent

Ghost Reveries and Heritage are banned.
yeah i'd have slapped on ghost of perdition in place of deliverance (or even doubled up on ghost reveries picks with baying or beneath the mire) if i were able to send from it  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: v_clortho on December 10, 2021, 02:02:25 PM
Ah. Makes sense now.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on December 10, 2021, 02:03:20 PM
Hell yeah unique songs :lol

I sent Faith in Others because I have faith in others for this round.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2021, 02:04:33 PM
I'm surprised "Ghost of Perdition" wasn't sent

Ghost Reveries and Heritage are banned.

Um, something seems off with Stads second song.

I'm going to guess that's Harvest and not Heritage?

Yes, it's Harvest and I fixed it. I told you this roulette is going to kill me.

That said, there's usually something off with most of Stadler's songs. ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2021, 02:05:42 PM
Hell yeah unique songs :lol

I sent Faith in Others because I have faith in others for this round.

(https://c.tenor.com/Td_dBCzwFRQAAAAM/aww-cute.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2021, 02:07:54 PM
I mentioned that I'm not doing First Impressions for this round. I've heard most of the songs twice and I have no idea what I want to say. I feel like I could describe most of the songs the same way.

But I will post tidbits.

Here's one, only because I'm listening to it now..

The Solo at 1:15 in Dignity is strong!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 10, 2021, 02:12:39 PM
TAC's first impressions:

Nice heavy part

Nice acoustic part

Nice transition between the heavy and acoustic part

Not really digging this guys vocals


I think that about covers it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2021, 02:16:32 PM
TAC's first impressions:

Nice heavy part

Nice acoustic part

Nice transition between the heavy and acoustic part

Not really digging this guys vocals


I think that about covers it.

 :lol :lol :lol

Yup, you pretty much nailed it. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 10, 2021, 02:31:46 PM
Looks like I was the only one brave enough to send Opeth's best song. ;)

Also aside from Patterns In The Ivy TAC got the entire Blackwater Park album! :rollin
You should really re-order the playlist to just listen to the full album in the proper order at this point.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on December 10, 2021, 02:41:53 PM
I can't believe songs from Snore-ceress were sent.   :-\
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2021, 02:45:25 PM
I can't believe songs from Snore-ceress were sent.   :-\

What are you talking about? One of them is pretty good. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 10, 2021, 02:46:14 PM
Looks like I was the only one brave enough to send Opeth's best song. ;)
honestly never got the hype for the song or the album as a whole, so  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 10, 2021, 02:50:18 PM
I figured Blackwater would be covered which is why I avoided it. I really wanted to send The Moor, but went with Godhead's instead as it has some meaning for me.

The best part of The Lotus Eater just so happens to be the ringtone on my phone.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 10, 2021, 02:51:44 PM
All three of those Sorceress songs are good, especially the title track (I'm surprised it only got sent once) and Chrysalis. Will O The Wisp is a little standard for Opeth ballad standards but it's still nice.

The best part of The Lotus Eater just so happens to be the ringtone on my phone.

That's going to be Tim's least favorite part, I'm calling it now. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2021, 02:55:52 PM
All three of those Sorceress songs are good, especially the title track (I'm surprised it only got sent once) and Chrysalis. Will O The Wisp is a little standard for Opeth ballad standards but it's still nice.

The live version of Sorceress was sent as part of a Wild Card™ entry.



The best part of The Lotus Eater just so happens to be the ringtone on my phone.

That's going to be Tim's least favorite part, I'm calling it now. :lol

An 8 and a half minute ringtone? ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on December 10, 2021, 02:58:27 PM
I almost sent The Moor, but ultimately went with When instead.

MAYH is awesome.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 10, 2021, 03:01:55 PM
Me excited!! :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on December 10, 2021, 03:40:19 PM
HOF has the biggest balls and/or biggest distaste for Opeth of us all  :lol


Damnation is the only Opeth album I own or care to listen to (I actually think it's pretty good), but it's also super Steven Wilson-ish. I didn't expect anyone else to send anything from it for that reason.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2021, 03:43:31 PM
HOF has the biggest balls and/or biggest distaste for Opeth of us all  :lol


Damnation is the only Opeth album I own or care to listen to (I actually think it's pretty good), but it's also super Steven Wilson-ish. I didn't expect anyone else to send anything from it for that reason.

It's funny to quote the two of you together because...

Is it possible that Windowpane is this round's The Willing Well IV:The Final Cut?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 10, 2021, 03:47:55 PM
This playlist is less Bleak than I thought.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2021, 03:49:34 PM
This playlist is less Bleak than I thought.

(tidbit incoming...)
After hearing it, that's probably a good thing. :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 10, 2021, 03:51:44 PM
 :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on December 10, 2021, 03:52:38 PM
HOF has the biggest balls and/or biggest distaste for Opeth of us all  :lol


Damnation is the only Opeth album I own or care to listen to (I actually think it's pretty good), but it's also super Steven Wilson-ish. I didn't expect anyone else to send anything from it for that reason.

It's funny to quote the two of you together because...

Is it possible that Windowpane is this round's The Willing Well IV:The Final Cut?
Well, good thing I sent that song as well then :coolio
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on December 10, 2021, 03:54:23 PM
This playlist is less Bleak than I thought.

Surprising, considering I sent a song called Hope Leaves from an album called Damnation.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 10, 2021, 03:58:50 PM
This playlist is less Bleak than I thought.

(tidbit incoming...)
After hearing it, that's probably a good thing. :corn
:2metal:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on December 10, 2021, 04:00:42 PM
Not surprised that others sent Lotus Eater, but I'm a bit surprised that I'm the only Heir Apparent. That's my favorite harsh-vocals Opeth song.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 10, 2021, 04:02:07 PM
Windowpane is probably in their top 5 best songs, to be fair. I just wouldn't send it in a TAC roulette. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on December 10, 2021, 04:27:42 PM
surprised to see only one other bleak submission. a bit less surprised to see a few other deliverance submissions.
the drapery falls is not a bad pick either to be fair

All three were on my shortlist as well, but I figured others would send them :)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 10, 2021, 06:34:01 PM
Windowpane is probably in their top 5 best songs, to be fair. I just wouldn't send it in a TAC roulette. :lol
Yeah, I almost sent Windowpane. Then realized Tim may not like it. I also figured the harsh vocals might be too much of a hurdle in anything pre-Blackwater Park, so had to eliminate my 2nd favorite Opeth album (MAYH). Then I realized that all of Mikael Akerfeldt's harsh vocals are going to be a hurdle this round  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2021, 06:46:27 PM
Then I realized that all of Mikael Akerfeldt's harsh vocals are going to be a hurdle this round  :lol

I can't say I love them, but they are still way better than the dude in BTBAM.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 10, 2021, 07:15:34 PM
Then I realized that all of Mikael Akerfeldt's harsh vocals are going to be a hurdle this round  :lol

I can't say I love them, but they are still way better than the dude in BTBAM.
I can sort of agree here. However, I don't find Tommy's harsh vocals bad, so.... :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2021, 07:42:11 PM
Puppies
The Drapery Falls
Deliverance

Ariich
The Drapery Falls
Burden

There's been some tussling at the top. The Drapery Falls will cancel each other out. If Ariich is to gain some ground, it will depend on how the Deliverance vs Burden battle goes.


I have a related tidbit...

The vocals on Burden are outstanding. :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 10, 2021, 08:17:24 PM
Yeah Burden has great vocals but Deliverance has

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Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 10, 2021, 08:22:11 PM
Yeah Burden has great vocals but Deliverance has

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Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2021, 08:29:04 PM
Yeah Burden has great vocals but Deliverance has

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Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 10, 2021, 08:30:32 PM
:metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 10, 2021, 08:56:05 PM
Um, Wut?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2021, 08:57:03 PM
LolWut?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on December 10, 2021, 09:22:42 PM
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/3oEjHFomnVImg0KleU/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b95200ee22738b2b7d4b7c857d8fb2b3353a259d7fe2&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 10, 2021, 09:51:20 PM
burden is a very safe nonmetal pick, very good song, yes
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 10, 2021, 09:52:15 PM
Y'all not getting what I was referring to makes me sad
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 10, 2021, 10:20:31 PM
Y'all not getting what I was referring to makes me sad
I assume you are referring to the part that begins at about 9:58. That section is tight! :metal :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on December 10, 2021, 10:38:25 PM
I like Burden, but the untuned guitar part at the end is a little strange, and the ending overall goes on too long. It's the one part of Watershed that kind of breaks the momentum for me.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 10, 2021, 10:42:19 PM
I wish I could have sent The Grand Conjuration twice.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on December 10, 2021, 10:52:38 PM
Why settle for twice when you could send it 30 times?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: LudwigVan on December 10, 2021, 11:23:03 PM
A little surprised we didn’t get Demon of The Fall.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 10, 2021, 11:41:52 PM
Y'all not getting what I was referring to makes me sad

I just read it. Got it immediately.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 11, 2021, 12:28:22 AM
The problem with Deliverance is, it takes too long to get to the really good part.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on December 11, 2021, 12:34:49 AM
The problem with Deliverance is, it takes too long to get to the really good part.
Yes, definitely. The breakdown at the end is amazing (if you like that kind of thing) but the rest of the very long song isn't that interesting.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 11, 2021, 01:01:21 AM
i think the entire song is really good  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on December 11, 2021, 01:22:34 AM
I wish I could have sent The Grand Conjuration twice.

I 100% intended to send it. I got so far as searching for it on Spotify, copying the link to send it to Tim, then realizing it's on Ghost Reveries. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on December 11, 2021, 01:33:46 AM
A little surprised we didn’t get Demon of The Fall.

Almost sent that one too. Ya’ll sending good songs, when there’s a bunch of other good songs out there still!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 11, 2021, 01:38:04 AM
if y'all need your Grand Conjuration fix i've got you covered
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2a9veVoWswvjEaT3nANbmr
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on December 11, 2021, 03:33:36 AM
:hefdaddy:

The Grand Conjuration is definitely up there with their best. That moment halway through the song where Mikael goes AAAAAAH and then THEEEE GRAAAAND CONJUUUURAAAATION and the main riff kicks in again about halfway through the song is amazing. That song is (like some of their others) a journey.

You know what I mean :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 11, 2021, 04:01:58 AM
If The Grand Conjuration was 5 minutes long instead of 10, it would be a better song imo.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2021, 05:32:09 AM
Yeah Burden has great vocals but Deliverance has

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This guy knows what the fuck is up.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2021, 05:33:51 AM
The problem with Deliverance is, it takes too long to get to the really good part.

I can't agree.  I find the whole 10 minutes amazing personally and it flows by and next thing you know, you're at the outro.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on December 11, 2021, 06:12:14 AM
Agreed with wolf, twice
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: KevShmev on December 11, 2021, 07:51:36 AM
If The Grand Conjuration was 5 minutes long instead of 10, it would be a better song imo.

Agreed.  Ghost Reveries is awesome, but to me The Grand Conjuration is the one kinda average spot on it.  The other seven songs all rule.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 11, 2021, 10:52:57 AM
the grand conjuration is my least favorite metal track on ghost reveries and probably my second least favorite behind atonement but that's like a 9/10 on a 9.5/10 5-star top-ten-of-all-time album, so
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 11, 2021, 11:16:53 AM
the grand conjuration is my least favorite metal track on ghost reveries and probably my second least favorite behind atonement but that's like a 9/10 on a 9.5/10 5-star top-ten-of-all-time album, so
This is accurate. I'd say the opening trifecta of Ghost of Perdition, The Baying of the Hounds, and Beneath the Mire is one of the best openings to a metal album of all time.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 11, 2021, 11:30:27 AM
I was years away from dealing with harsh vocals, but I was still able to get through Ghost Reveries because it was so good. I remember downloading Watershed when it came out after that, and thinking I'll just stick with Ghost Reveries..what I know.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 11, 2021, 12:32:13 PM
Ghost Reveries is probably the best way for a newcomer to get into Opeth but it hasn't aged well for me. I'm not sure if it'd even be in my top five Opeth albums at this point. I dunno, something about the sound of that album just feels very... flat. And the pacing is pretty bad imo; after the great start that is the first three songs the album just gradually gets less and less engaging.

I know the fanbase is pretty divided on Watershed but I think that album improved upon Ghost Reveries greatly. More variety, more energetic performances, and more weirdness (in a good way). Less metal I suppose, but Heir Apparent and The Lotus Eater more than hit that quota for me.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 11, 2021, 01:05:08 PM
Ghost Reveries is probably the best way for a newcomer to get into Opeth but it hasn't aged well for me. I'm not sure if it'd even be in my top five Opeth albums at this point. I dunno, something about the sound of that album just feels very... flat. And the pacing is pretty bad imo; after the great start that is the first three songs the album just gradually gets less and less engaging.

I know the fanbase is pretty divided on Watershed but I think that album improved upon Ghost Reveries greatly. More variety, more energetic performances, and more weirdness (in a good way). Less metal I suppose, but Heir Apparent and The Lotus Eater more than hit that quota for me.

I don't have any memory of that one listen to Watershed. Other than to think that I'm not doing this. Ghost Reveries was fine as a novelty for me. I really like Reverie/Harlequin Forest. Cool as hell outro on that.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 11, 2021, 01:12:11 PM
Ghost Reveries is probably the best way for a newcomer to get into Opeth but it hasn't aged well for me. I'm not sure if it'd even be in my top five Opeth albums at this point. I dunno, something about the sound of that album just feels very... flat. And the pacing is pretty bad imo; after the great start that is the first three songs the album just gradually gets less and less engaging.

I know the fanbase is pretty divided on Watershed but I think that album improved upon Ghost Reveries greatly. More variety, more energetic performances, and more weirdness (in a good way). Less metal I suppose, but Heir Apparent and The Lotus Eater more than hit that quota for me.

I don't have any memory of that one listen to Watershed. Other than to think that I'm not doing this. Ghost Reveries was fine as a novelty for me. I really like Reverie/Harlequin Forest. Cool as hell outro on that.
Harlequin Forest is THE best song on Ghost Reveries, imo.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 11, 2021, 01:13:35 PM
 :tup
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on December 11, 2021, 01:43:08 PM
Ghost Reveries is probably the best way for a newcomer to get into Opeth but it hasn't aged well for me. I'm not sure if it'd even be in my top five Opeth albums at this point. I dunno, something about the sound of that album just feels very... flat. And the pacing is pretty bad imo; after the great start that is the first three songs the album just gradually gets less and less engaging.

I know the fanbase is pretty divided on Watershed but I think that album improved upon Ghost Reveries greatly. More variety, more energetic performances, and more weirdness (in a good way). Less metal I suppose, but Heir Apparent and The Lotus Eater more than hit that quota for me.

I never really got the Ghost Reveries thing, to be honest. I get it being accessible because it's sort of the median of their sound—a lot of both metal and prog-rock-y parts, a lot of both clean and harsh vocals, etc. But it's never really connected with me, even after giving it many chances.

Granted, I don't exactly consider myself an Opeth fan. Music with a really bleak (:neverusethis:) vibe isn't for me, and I'm made uncomfortable by the fascination with murder that comes across in a lot of their early lyrics. But I like Blackwater Park a lot better than Ghost Reveries, even though BWP is a lot darker in my judgment.

Watershed, on the other hand, is my favorite metal Opeth album for a lot of the reasons you name. And lest I be accused of just saying that because I'm not enthusiastic about metal Opeth, Heir Apparent is my favorite song on that album, and way better IMO than any song on GR.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Zoom E on December 11, 2021, 02:16:50 PM
Ghost Reveries is definitely my favourite Opeth album and Watershed is second. After that it's probably Deliverance and Blackwater Park.

Now I feel the need to go and listen to Ghost Reveries.  :metal It has been a while.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 11, 2021, 02:35:03 PM
The first three songs of Watershed are among the best they ever recorded, but the rest of that record isn't that good, imo. Burden is okay apart from the ending, Porcelain Heart recycles some Grand Conjuration riff and is too long, Hessian Peel is solid and Hex Omega plain out bores me.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 11, 2021, 02:56:27 PM
Ghost Reveries is probably the best way for a newcomer to get into Opeth but it hasn't aged well for me. I'm not sure if it'd even be in my top five Opeth albums at this point. I dunno, something about the sound of that album just feels very... flat. And the pacing is pretty bad imo; after the great start that is the first three songs the album just gradually gets less and less engaging.

I know the fanbase is pretty divided on Watershed but I think that album improved upon Ghost Reveries greatly. More variety, more energetic performances, and more weirdness (in a good way). Less metal I suppose, but Heir Apparent and The Lotus Eater more than hit that quota for me.

I don't have any memory of that one listen to Watershed. Other than to think that I'm not doing this. Ghost Reveries was fine as a novelty for me. I really like Reverie/Harlequin Forest. Cool as hell outro on that.
Harlequin Forest is THE best song on Ghost Reveries, imo.
yeah i'm inclined to agree with this too
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 11, 2021, 03:00:47 PM
The first three songs of Watershed are among the best they ever recorded, but the rest of that record isn't that good, imo. Burden is okay apart from the ending, Porcelain Heart recycles some Grand Conjuration riff and is too long, Hessian Peel is solid and Hex Omega plain out bores me.

Hex Omega is definitely the weakest song on the album, I'll give you that.

Porcelain Heart might be their most underrated song that I can think of except for maybe Moonlapse Vertigo. The proggy passages in the last half are superb, and the acoustic verse around two thirds in is absolutely beautiful.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: KevShmev on December 11, 2021, 03:54:18 PM
Watershed is very good overall, but for me it only has a few songs I would call great, with the rest being all good, while Ghost Reveries is filled with mostly great songs. 
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 11, 2021, 04:03:29 PM
Tidbit incoming...


Sorceress would be so much better with Ronnie James Dio singing it. I mean, they got Ian Anderson to sing on Will O The Wisp..
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 11, 2021, 04:25:18 PM
This playlist is kicking my ass. :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: KevShmev on December 11, 2021, 04:26:40 PM
Sorceress would be a lot better if the mix was better and more consistent. Some songs sound good and some it is like they decided to crank the low end way too much.  They had a long stream of albums that legit sounded great and then the last two were clear declines in that regard. 
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 11, 2021, 04:28:38 PM
I haven't really picked up production differences yet. Just trying to differentiate the songs at this point.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: KevShmev on December 11, 2021, 04:30:19 PM
Will o the Wisp is definitely a great one.  I don't revisit that record much, but I love that song.  Easily my favorite from Sorceress.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 11, 2021, 04:33:28 PM
I got three songs from Sorceress and one is the clear winner (of the three, not of the round).
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: LudwigVan on December 11, 2021, 04:51:06 PM
Tidbit incoming...


Sorceress would be so much better with Ronnie James Dio singing it. I mean, they got Ian Anderson to sing on Will O The Wisp..

 You do realize that Will O the Wisp is a reworking of this? Or was your Ian Anderson call purely coincidental?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sxcktkNSw38
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 11, 2021, 05:11:27 PM
Tidbit incoming...


Sorceress would be so much better with Ronnie James Dio singing it. I mean, they got Ian Anderson to sing on Will O The Wisp..

 You do realize that Will O the Wisp is a reworking of this? Or was your Ian Anderson call purely coincidental?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sxcktkNSw38

I would have no idea, so it was definitely coincidental, though I'd like to chalk it up to my genius intuitive listening skills. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 11, 2021, 05:29:35 PM
Thankfully I read that without a drink in my hand. Lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 11, 2021, 08:01:31 PM
I know Dream Theater gets accused of putting parts together that don't really fit, but what I'm finding with a lot of these songs is that they just feel like a collection of parts put together. It's hard to find some commonality throughout a particular song.
But a lot of these sections are  :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 11, 2021, 08:03:15 PM
I hate that. Those who say that have no creativity.   I love a 3 minute pop song and I love 20 minute songs with abrupt turns.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 11, 2021, 08:15:45 PM
I hate that. Those who say that have no creativity. 

Wait..I just said that. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on December 11, 2021, 10:02:11 PM
I think that criticism is more reasonable with Opeth than with Dream Theater, especially early Opeth.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: LudwigVan on December 11, 2021, 11:52:04 PM
A “collection of parts put together” can be used to describe a lot of early Haken too.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on December 12, 2021, 12:45:55 AM
Will o the Wisp is definitely a great one.  I don't revisit that record much, but I love that song.  Easily my favorite from Sorceress.

:metal

Same here!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 12, 2021, 06:56:25 AM
I hate that. Those who say that have no creativity. 

Wait..I just said that. :lol

So you got my shot at you then. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 12, 2021, 08:16:01 PM
Scratched out 13 writeups today. Off to a good start. These are great songs.

Just finished Burden, and I have to say that it is Schenkerific!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on December 12, 2021, 09:07:41 PM
I love the out of tune solo on Burden, it's weird and confuses people
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on December 13, 2021, 05:51:26 PM
I wish I had the balls to send tac some of Coheed's softer songs, but that would be a risky move.

I'm a metal fan, but sending me the heaviest track usually doesn't work either.

By the way TAC, if you are curious and have time to listen, the songs I was thinking of here were Dark Side of Me, Wake Up and Ghost.

Was listening to Coheed on my way home and all three songs came on
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 13, 2021, 06:24:12 PM
I wish I had the balls to send tac some of Coheed's softer songs, but that would be a risky move.

I'm a metal fan, but sending me the heaviest track usually doesn't work either.

By the way TAC, if you are curious and have time to listen, the songs I was thinking of here were Dark Side of Me, Wake Up and Ghost.

Was listening to Coheed on my way home and all three songs came on

I have time. I'm in pretty good shape for this round.


V..
First Impressions..

Dark Side Of Me was excellent.

Wake Up, I don't really remember.

Ghost was a tough listen the first time around. :)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on December 14, 2021, 06:18:29 AM
Good thing I didn't send any of those  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 14, 2021, 02:30:06 PM
Me too! :lol



Tibit incoming...

I hate the snare sound in Windowpane.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 14, 2021, 02:33:43 PM
Someone remix Windowpane with the Images And Words snare sound. :P
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 14, 2021, 08:41:08 PM
Someone remix Windowpane with the Images And Words snare sound. :P
Nah, St. Anger snare sound! :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 14, 2021, 08:45:05 PM
If I have a productive morning, I might have Results tomorrow afternoon. Writeups are done. Songs are ranked. Results posts are formatted. Just have to assign and plug in the scores.


This will be the highest scoring round.

Of the 23 songs..

18 scored an 8.0 or higher.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on December 14, 2021, 08:46:31 PM
If I have a productive morning, I might have Results tomorrow afternoon. Writeups are done. Songs are ranked. Results posts are formatted. Just have to assign and plug in the scores.


This will be the highest scoring round.

Of the 23 songs..

18 scored an 8.0 or higher.

And mine are two of the five that didn't, right?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: KevShmev on December 14, 2021, 08:47:33 PM
I love the out of tune solo on Burden, it's weird and confuses people

I find it strange that that solo bothers so many people.  Who cares if it is out of tune, it sounds good, and that is all that matters. 
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 14, 2021, 08:50:02 PM
If I have a productive morning, I might have Results tomorrow afternoon. Writeups are done. Songs are ranked. Results posts are formatted. Just have to assign and plug in the scores.


This will be the highest scoring round.

Of the 23 songs..

18 scored an 8.0 or higher.

And mine are two of the five that didn't, right?


Er.. well, you do own a 7.9, but I have your other song ranked 8th overall (score not assigned yet).  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 14, 2021, 08:50:51 PM
I love the out of tune solo on Burden, it's weird and confuses people

I find it strange that that solo bothers so many people.  Who cares if it is out of tune, it sounds good, and that is all that matters.

It's not the solo right? But the outro. And no, it doesn't sound good.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: KevShmev on December 14, 2021, 08:58:47 PM
The outro, yes.  It sounds a bit strange, yes, but it's a weird little thing that works.  It's like the feeling of losing it and then it segues perfectly into the next song. 
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 14, 2021, 09:00:59 PM
The first time I heard it, my headphones were on low power, and I thought they had finally given out. the second listen, I was like WTF...in the same spot??

But then I saw it mentioned in the thread, and well, that made more sense. I don't love it, because the song is so damn good.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: KevShmev on December 14, 2021, 09:14:53 PM
(https://c.tenor.com/RVFdW5HB4OIAAAAM/rush-alex-lifeson.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: lonestar on December 14, 2021, 09:40:23 PM
If I have a productive morning, I might have Results tomorrow afternoon. Writeups are done. Songs are ranked. Results posts are formatted. Just have to assign and plug in the scores.


This will be the highest scoring round.

Of the 23 songs..

18 scored an 8.0 or higher.

And mine are two of the five that didn't, right?


Er.. well, you do own a 7.9, but I have your other song ranked 8th overall (score not assigned yet).  :corn

I'll be honest, I was nervous that all the people that actually know Opeth weren't saying shit either way about my tracks, like I'd sent some forgettable crap.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 14, 2021, 09:45:23 PM
If I have a productive morning, I might have Results tomorrow afternoon. Writeups are done. Songs are ranked. Results posts are formatted. Just have to assign and plug in the scores.


This will be the highest scoring round.

Of the 23 songs..

18 scored an 8.0 or higher.

And mine are two of the five that didn't, right?


Er.. well, you do own a 7.9, but I have your other song ranked 8th overall (score not assigned yet).  :corn

I'll be honest, I was nervous that all the people that actually know Opeth weren't saying shit either way about my tracks, like I'd sent some forgettable crap.  :lol
I had to go back and look at what you sent, I couldn't remember  :lol At any rate, those are both good songs, imo, but not ones that I would immediately think to send to Tim.

If I had to guess I'd say Dirge for November got the 7.9  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on December 14, 2021, 11:33:19 PM
The outro, yes.  It sounds a bit strange, yes, but it's a weird little thing that works.  It's like the feeling of losing it and then it segues perfectly into the next song. 
Yeah it's not really part of the song, more of an interlude and segue into the next one. But on Spotify there's no way to remove or automatically skip it so I guess Tim had to listen to it every time with no context. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 15, 2021, 06:01:40 AM
The outro, yes.  It sounds a bit strange, yes, but it's a weird little thing that works.  It's like the feeling of losing it and then it segues perfectly into the next song. 
Yeah it's not really part of the song, more of an interlude and segue into the next one. But on Spotify there's no way to remove or automatically skip it so I guess Tim had to listen to it every time with no context. :lol

I didn't hold it against the song.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 15, 2021, 06:03:47 AM
On cd the outro it still attached to Burden and if you don't hit stop or skip you have to endure it too.

For me that outro is like an idea that sounds good the first time, but less and less with each repeat.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Stadler on December 15, 2021, 06:14:24 AM
If I have a productive morning, I might have Results tomorrow afternoon. Writeups are done. Songs are ranked. Results posts are formatted. Just have to assign and plug in the scores.


This will be the highest scoring round.

Of the 23 songs..

18 scored an 8.0 or higher.

And mine are two of the five that didn't, right?


Er.. well, you do own a 7.9, but I have your other song ranked 8th overall (score not assigned yet).  :corn

I'll be honest, I was nervous that all the people that actually know Opeth weren't saying shit either way about my tracks, like I'd sent some forgettable crap.  :lol

Don't worry, bud.  I got your back.  I have no doubt that I'm in the 7.2, 7.4 range!  :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 15, 2021, 06:24:15 AM
Lowest score is a 7.4, and no, you don't have that.  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on December 15, 2021, 08:21:16 AM
I think Faith in Others might get a fairly low score :)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 15, 2021, 09:36:35 AM
I think Faith in Others might get a fairly low score :)

No faith...in others?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 15, 2021, 09:39:24 AM
If Bleak got a low score, that would be kinda ..... bleak.  :blush
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 15, 2021, 09:42:19 AM
I'll say this about Bleak. It seems the most talked about or sent songs in each round have been generally underwhelming.  Let's just say the streak is in tact. :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 15, 2021, 09:47:15 AM
I'll say this about Bleak. It seems the most talked about or sent songs in each round have been generally underwhelming.  Let's just say the streak is in tact. :corn

While I will say you are wrong, I'm glad I did not send Bleak. At least, I hope I'm glad.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 15, 2021, 10:21:52 AM
Didn't The Lotus Eater get sent just as many times?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 15, 2021, 10:25:37 AM
Didn't The Lotus Eater get sent just as many times?

Well, yes, but there was really no chatter about The Lotus Eater. People were talking about Bleak in the thread plus in a few submission PMs people said that..."You'll probably get Bleak from other people so I'll send you x and y instead."


The Lotus Eater > Bleak.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 15, 2021, 10:52:37 AM
I'll say this about Bleak. It seems the most talked about or sent songs in each round have been generally underwhelming.  Let's just say the streak is in tact. :corn

All good, I just saw the opportunity to place a bad joke.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on December 15, 2021, 11:02:45 AM
Didn't The Lotus Eater get sent just as many times?

Well, yes, but there was really no chatter about The Lotus Eater. People were talking about Bleak in the thread plus in a few submission PMs people said that..."You'll probably get Bleak from other people so I'll send you x and y instead."


The Lotus Eater > Bleak.

Yes, that was me. And then I figured you’d get Lotus Eater a bunch of times too. I’m inclined to agree on your comparison as well, they’re close, but Bleak is damn good.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on December 15, 2021, 11:11:39 AM
I must be way out of touch with people's opinions on Opeth, because I never really got the sense until this thread that Bleak was "the" Opeth song. I never even saw it as "the" Blackwater Park song, in comparison to the title track and The Drapery Falls.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on December 15, 2021, 11:37:48 AM
I must be way out of touch with people's opinions on Opeth, because I never really got the sense until this thread that Bleak was "the" Opeth song. I never even saw it as "the" Blackwater Park song, in comparison to the title track and The Drapery Falls.

I always thought Bleak was the 2nd song on Blackwater Park.  It fits nicely between The Leper Affinity and Harvest, and continues the flow of the album. 
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 15, 2021, 11:41:29 AM
I must be way out of touch with people's opinions on Opeth, because I never really got the sense until this thread that Bleak was "the" Opeth song. I never even saw it as "the" Blackwater Park song, in comparison to the title track and The Drapery Falls.

I always thought Bleak was the 2nd song on Blackwater Park.  It fits nicely between The Leper Affinity and Harvest, and continues the flow of the album.

Well that's just like, your opinion. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 15, 2021, 11:43:00 AM
nah the second song on blackwater park is the answer lies within
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on December 15, 2021, 11:57:47 AM
I must be way out of touch with people's opinions on Opeth, because I never really got the sense until this thread that Bleak was "the" Opeth song. I never even saw it as "the" Blackwater Park song, in comparison to the title track and The Drapery Falls.

I always thought Bleak was the 2nd song on Blackwater Park.  It fits nicely between The Leper Affinity and Harvest, and continues the flow of the album.

Well that's just like, your opinion. :neverusethis:

It's a hot take, I know.  :riskybiz:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on December 15, 2021, 12:59:22 PM
nah the second song on blackwater park is the answer lies within

Trapped inside this blackwater park
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 15, 2021, 01:06:18 PM
These Drapery Walls
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 15, 2021, 02:12:58 PM
Round 6 Results!



Cyril

Bleak...8.0

OK..three minutes into this, and my ears are kind of glazed over. There’s nothing to really latch onto. The clean vocal section is actually pretty good. The middle softer section is nice. Moves along and of course the harshies come back, but it’s short lived, so that’s good. I’m surprised that I had heard so much about this song. At nine minutes, it’s better as a six minute song. Cut off the first three minutes.

Deliverance...8.6

Interesting intro. I like the metal-ness of it before the vocals. The early clean verses are nice. The section at 4:43 is a surprise. The song seemed content on going back and forth. Nice sounding solo at 8:18. I’m glad this middle section came up as I thought the song was meandering a bit. But the outro from 10 minutes on is all win.
8.0+8.6=16.6/2=8.30


Romdrums

The Leper Affinity...8.7

This starts out harsh and heavy. It really hits its groove at 2:15. Love the solo at 2:45. Really strong. The rhythm under the harsh vocals in the next section is cool as hell. Some Schenker right before the clean vocals come in. Nice! I like how this gets proggy heavy too. Ends with a nice piano outro. That Schenker passage really makes this stick out for me.

The Lotus Eater...8.3

In the beginning, I like how the blastbeats are behind the clean vocals and the awesome ride cymbal groove is behind the harsh. Nice solo at 3:39. Some Schenker notes at the end of the chill section before a cool drum groove. I find the ending clean and harsh sections kind of a letdown though. This song was excellent right up until the end of that transition section. Strong track though.
8.7+8.3=19/2=8.50


Professor

Godhead’s Lament...8.7

The first three minutes go by really fast. It’s not my favorite vocal per se, but the music underneath is steady AF and just keeps it moving along a real nice groove. The solo that starts at 2:56 sounds so familiar, but I cannot place it. Has a Classic Power 70’s feel to it. I love the clean vocal section that follows. The rhythm under the second harsh vocals section at 6:56 is cool. The song goes back and forth, but I have to say that this is quite groovy throughout. It’s long, but doesn’t feel it’s as long as it is. It’s pretty powerful.

When...8.9

The brief acoustic intro feels kind of 80’s power ballad-y. Of course it gets blown up pretty quickly. But at :56, it goes for a nice Dave Lombardo groove. I like how the harsh verse is over a nice steady line, even some acoustic underneath. I like how this song stays straightforward, even when stepping back, and groovey.4:18…wow! One of my favorite passages in the round. The “And I Die” section that ends it sounds like Alice In Chains with advanced drumming. Excellent tune.
8.7+8.9=17.6/2=8.80


Wolfking

Deliverance...8.6

Interesting intro. I like the metal-ness of it before the vocals. The early clean verses are nice. The section at 4:43 is a surprise. The song seemed content on going back and forth. Nice sounding solo at 8:18. I’m glad this middle section came up as I thought the song was meandering a bit. But the outro from 10 minutes on is all win.

Windowpane...8.4

The song goes back and forth three times in the first 3-4 minutes between vocal and instrumental sections. I like those instrumental drop ins. It’s pretty chill, but by the end of the third cycle, I’m ready for something else. It begins to  draw some energy before a slight change at 4:40. It stays kind of Pink Floydish and really fucking cool. I love these couple of minutes. They should’ve just let that fade out, but unfortunately the vocals come back at 6:30. The keyboard treatments in the outro are nice. This is a cool song.
8.6+8.4=17/2=8.50


Buddy

The Lotus Eater...8.3

In the beginning, I like how the blastbeats are behind the clean vocals and the awesome ride cymbal groove is behind the harsh. Nice solo at 3:39. Some Schenker notes at the end of the chill section before a cool drum groove. I find the ending clean and harsh sections kind of a letdown though. This song was excellent right up until the end of that transition section. Strong track though.

Blackwater Park...8.1

Cool groovy intro, almost grunge-like. After about 3 minutes of chill, the song starts back up again Sabbath style. This is a really cool tune, though it is kind of long. I was kind of waiting for that “holy shit” moment, but it just stayed pretty level. A strong heavy level.
8.3+8.1=16.4/2=8.20


HOF

Windowpane...8.4

The song goes back and forth three times in the first 3-4 minutes between vocal and instrumental sections. I like those instrumental drop ins. It’s pretty chill, but by the end of the third cycle, I’m ready for something else. It begins to  draw some energy before a slight change at 4:40. It stays kind of Pink Floydish and really fucking cool. I love these couple of minutes. They should’ve just let that fade out, but unfortunately the vocals come back at 6:30. The keyboard treatments in the outro are nice. This is a cool song.

Hope Leaves...7.4

Not unpleasant by any stretch. An interesting side of Opeth for sure. But this is like sending Beth in a KISS Round.
8.4=7.4=15.8/2=7.90


425

Heir Apparent...8.4

I get a big Black Sabbath vibe in the beginning. It’s cool and groovy, but it really hits its stride at 4:17. I like the mellow part at 4:40. Cool guitar solo. Sounds a little like Blackmore. Gets heavy and proggy before culminating in an amazing outro at 7:20.

The Lotus Eater...8.3

In the beginning, I like how the blastbeats are behind the clean vocals and the awesome ride cymbal groove is behind the harsh. Nice solo at 3:39. Some Schenker notes at the end of the chill section before a cool drum groove. I find the ending clean and harsh sections kind of a letdown though. This song was excellent right up until the end of that transition section. Strong track though.
8.4+8.3=16.7/2=8.35



Lonestar

Dirge For November...7.9

I like the acoustic opening, especially as it closes. The vocals are a bit shaky though. The harsh vocal section almost feels Black Metalish. Ends with some soft guitar. It’s not my favorite here, but I definitely like it. I like the emotion that I hear in Black Metal, and it comes through here as well. Totally appreciate this submission.

Master’s Apprentice...8.5

This has a cool, almost menacing pace to it. Moves along pretty good, but vomits on itself at 7:47. WTF? But then it moves into a fantastic part. Best part of the song is the last three minutes. Great epic outro.
7.9+8.5=16.4/2=8.20


Puppies

The Drapery Falls...8.1

After an uneventful 1:40 intro, there’s a cool Fields Of The Nephilim section. Harsh vocals make their first appearance about 5 minutes in. Gets somewhat proggy at 5:55. After another harsh part, the song settles in nicely to the end. Really enjoyed the ride out on this. Not sure it it’s as memorable as some of the other tracks.

Deliverance...8.6

Interesting intro. I like the metal-ness of it before the vocals. The early clean verses are nice. The section at 4:43 is a surprise. The song seemed content on going back and forth. Nice sounding solo at 8:18. I’m glad this middle section came up as I thought the song was meandering a bit. But the outro from 10 minutes on is all win.
8.1+8.6=16.7/2=8.35
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 15, 2021, 02:13:14 PM
Ariich

The Drapery Falls...8.1

After an uneventful 1:40 intro, there’s a cool Fields Of The Nephilim section. Harsh vocals make their first appearance about 5 minutes in. Gets somewhat proggy at 5:55. After another harsh part, the song settles in nicely to the end. Really enjoyed the ride out on this. Not sure it it’s as memorable as some of the other tracks though.

Burden...8.8

Evident right off the bat is a fantastic vocal. Love the keyboard solo that comes in shortly after the two minute mark. Trying to place the “aahh” part at 3:30ish. MSG maybe? Sounds like a Schenker solo that follows. The first one anyway. Great solo trade offs here. Ahh Schenker again at 5:13. Can’t say I love the detuned ending. The song was perfect until then. Still one of the best in the round.
8.1+8.8=16.9/2=8.45


Elite

When...8.9

The brief acoustic intro feels kind of 80’s power ballad-y. Of course it gets blown up pretty quickly. But at :56, it goes for a nice Dave Lombardo groove. I like how the harsh verse is over a nice steady line, even some acoustic underneath. I like how this song stays straightforward, even when stepping back, and groovey.4:18…wow! One of my favorite passages in the round. The “And I Die” section that ends it sounds like Alice In Chains with advanced drumming. Excellent tune.

April Ethereal...8.4
Great groovy opening. Not used to hearing double bass with this pattern. Even though it’s mostly harsh vocals the music really let’s them breathe, so they’re not overbearing. Love the rhythm at 6:05. Doing some headbanging at 6:45. The outro is pretty soothing.
8.9+8.4=17.3/2=8.65



Kwyjibo

Bleak...8.0

OK..three minutes into this, and my ears are kind of glazed over. There’s nothing to really latch onto. The clean vocal section is actually pretty good. The middle softer section is nice. Moves along and of course the harshies come back, but it’s short lived, so that’s good. I’m surprised that I had heard so much about this song. At nine minutes, it’s better as a six minute song. Cut off the first three minutes.

The Drapery Falls...8.1

After an uneventful 1:40 intro, there’s a cool Fields Of The Nephilim section. Harsh vocals make their first appearance about 5 minutes in. Gets somewhat proggy at 5:55. After another harsh part, the song settles in nicely to the end. Really enjoyed the ride out on this. Not sure it it’s as memorable as some of the other tracks.
8.0+8.1=16.1/2=8.05


Vmadera

Face Of Melinda...8.0

I like this acoustic intro. The vocals have an almost 60’s quality to it. Real retro sounding. Even when the full band joins in, it feels Classic. I keep waiting for the harsh vocals to come in and blow this up. Surprisingly, they don’t make an appearance. An almost majestic outro closes this out. There’s something refreshing about this and the old school vibe is endearing.

Windowpane...8.4

The song goes back and forth three times in the first 3-4 minutes between vocal and instrumental sections. I like those instrumental drop ins. It’s pretty chill, but by the end of the third cycle, I’m ready for something else. It begins to  draw some energy before a slight change at 4:40. It stays kind of Pink Floydish and really fucking cool. I love these couple of minutes. They should’ve just let that fade out, but unfortunately the vocals come back at 6:30. The keyboard treatments in the outro are nice. This is a cool song.
8.0+8.4=16.4/2=8.20



Kingshmegland

Sorceress...7.8

This has an old school feel to it. Still trying to place it. Deep purple, maybe? Lucifer’s Friend? The solo at 3:47 smokes. There’s a keyboard player? This chill part at 4:50 is cool. Woah, that’s the outro? Cool song. Not my favorite though.

Dignity...8.0

Is this Lucifer’s Friend? Sounds a lot like John Lawton in the intro. That is some strong lead guitar at 1:14.  I like when the song kicks back up at 3:30. Such a groovy 70’s lick. I can hear Ian Gillan singing this. Cool song.
7.8+8.0=15.8/2=7.90


Evermind

Will O The Wisp...7.5

Thought of Ian Anderson/Jethro Tull right away. I like the subtle lead guitar in the second half. Very pleasant and nothing not to like.

Faith In Others...8.3

Cool shuffling opening. The diddle at 3:20 reminds me of Ritchie Blackmore which makes sense as it moves into the next section. Dio-ish “ooohh”s. Stays pretty mellow throughout. Quite enjoyable, harkening back to some classic Rainbow for me.
7.5+8.3=15.8/2=7.90


LudwigVan

The Funeral Portrait...8.8

Starts with a big time Sabbath romp. There’s a quick section before the four minute mark with some cool drumming tradeoffs. The solo that follows that is really cool, as is the rhythm that carries it. The cleans come in late in the song, and I like the uptick in pacing right after that. The thing about this song is that, while no section really stands out, maybe with the exception of the Sabbath styled start, this just picks you up and never drops you. This does not feel like an 8+ minute song. The pace is strong and steady, but never feels like it meanders.

The Drapery Falls...8.1

After an uneventful 1:40 intro, there’s a cool Fields Of The Nephilim section. Harsh vocals make their first appearance about 5 minutes in. Gets somewhat proggy at 5:55. After another harsh part, the song settles in nicely to the end. Really enjoyed the ride out on this. Not sure it it’s as memorable as some of the other tracks.
8.8+8.1=16.9/2=8.45



Stadler

Chrysalis...8.1

Right off the bat, I like the pace of this. The song moves along, and at 3:46, there’s a cool guitar solo then a keyboard trade off. Reminds me of Deep Purple. Chills out at 4:50.. a little Black Sabbath. Fades out with this. I like this song. Has an Old School feel to it.

Harvest...7.6

The beginning reminds me of Iron Maiden’s Prodigal Son. I like the subtle lead guitar at 3:15.Hear a little Schenker in some of the notes. Looks like it was a breather during Blackwater Park, the album. The song is a little blah, yet enjoyable.
8.1+7.6=15.7/2=7.85
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 15, 2021, 02:13:33 PM
Round 6 Results!



Professor...8.80
Elite...8.65
Romdrums...8.50
Worlfking...8.50
LudwigVan...8.45
Ariich...8.45
425...8.35
Puppies...8.35
Cyril....8.30
Lonestar...8.20
Buddy...8.20
Vmadera...8.20
Kwyjibo...8.05
HOF...7.90
Evermind...7.90
Kingshmegland...7.90
Stadler...7.85





Standings


Puppies...8.60+8.15+8.25+8.35+8.20+8.35=49.90
Ariich...9.0+8.15+7.60+7.85+8.05+8.45=49.10
Cyril...7.55+8.25+7.95+8.45+8.35+8.30=48.95
VMadera...8.45+7.35+7.95+8.30+8.60+8.20=48.85
Romdrums...8.25+7.65+8.25+7.8+7.80+8.50=48.25
Kwyjibo...7.80+8.75+7.65+8.15+7.60+8.05=48.00
Professor...8.20+7.6+7.0+8.05+8.30+8.80=47.95
LudwigVan...8.35+7.55+7.35+7.90+8.30+8.45=47.90
Wolfking...7.80+7.6+8.10+8.0+7.90+8.50=47.90
Kingshmegland...7.70+8.25+7.85+7.85+8.20+7.90=47.75
425...7.90+7.40+7.65+8.45+7.85+8.35=47.60
Buddy...7.05+8.15+7.75+8.05+8.20+8.20=47.40
Elite...7.50+7.75+7.60+7.90+7.80+8.65=47.20
Stadler...8.50+7.75+7.35+7.55+7.85+7.85=46.85
Evermind...8.20+7.75+7.55+7.45+7.80+7.90=46.65
HOF...7.65+7.50+8.05+7.60+7.95+7.90=46.65
Lonestar...7.80+7.25+7.85+7.40+8.0+8.20=46.50


As always, please check my math!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Lonk on December 15, 2021, 02:19:31 PM
I knew I was taking risks with the songs I picked, it is fine  :metal

On to Mastodon  :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 15, 2021, 02:20:23 PM
MMMMEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHH!!!!!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Crow on December 15, 2021, 02:21:48 PM
yeah that works

stevie willy boy round next! i'll be satisfied if i score above 5/10  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 15, 2021, 02:27:14 PM
Quote
This is a really cool tune, though it is kind of long. I was kind of waiting for that “holy shit” moment, but it just stayed pretty level.

Uh, literally every single riff from 5 minutes onwards? The breakdown + solo at 7 minutes???
Tastes, man...

I'll be using the wild card for this next round because your tastes are an enigma wrapped in a mystery, even for bands you enjoy. :lol

On to Mastodon  :metal

You wish.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Lonk on December 15, 2021, 02:31:44 PM
On to Mastodon  :metal

You wish.

 :lol forgot we have PT first. Oh well  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: TAC on December 15, 2021, 02:45:02 PM
Quote
This is a really cool tune, though it is kind of long. I was kind of waiting for that “holy shit” moment, but it just stayed pretty level.

Uh, literally every single riff from 5 minutes onwards? The breakdown + solo at 7 minutes???

What about the first 5 minutes? ;D

Yeah, that part is cool, and I reserve the right to change that score next year sometime  ;D after I've heard it 20 more times, but after 5 or 6 listens, it just didn't separate. I mean it scored over an 8.0 which means I really like it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 15, 2021, 02:56:13 PM
Quote
This is a really cool tune, though it is kind of long. I was kind of waiting for that “holy shit” moment, but it just stayed pretty level.

Uh, literally every single riff from 5 minutes onwards? The breakdown + solo at 7 minutes???

What about the first 5 minutes? ;D

Yeah, that part is cool, and I reserve the right to change that score next year sometime  ;D after I've heard it 20 more times, but after 5 or 6 listens, it just didn't separate. I mean it scored over an 8.0 which means I really like it.

Pretty much every bit of that song is perfect if you ask me. :biggrin:
And yeah, in all seriousness, I'm pleasantly surprised this round went so well as a whole. You should probably listen to all their albums chronologically at some point - I don't really like their first two albums but I know they have their defenders. And everything from MYAYH onward with the exception of Pale Folklore ranges from decent to great.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 15, 2021, 02:58:16 PM
Well, I'm rather pleased with myself. Of all the rounds, I think this is the one I wanted the most. Even when I lose the roulette, I'll be proud of this minor win.

I see my win came down to Godhead beating out April Ethereal. Either way, MAYA and Still Life represent!

I might ruin it all with the 2 PT tracks I have picked out.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Crow on December 15, 2021, 03:03:03 PM
I'm probably gonna change my picks for this round bcuz TAC said he didn't like one of them well before the round started so to spite him I'm going to send the best two PT/SW songs he'll definitely hate
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 15, 2021, 03:03:38 PM
Sent. One of the songs I sent could be considered a dick move but TAC could always veto it since I used the wild card. ;)

And I didn't send the song that at least four or five people will definitely send.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: TAC on December 15, 2021, 03:08:22 PM

And I didn't send the song that at least four or five people will definitely send.

Do you mean Blackest Eyes? I wouldn't recommend it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 15, 2021, 03:17:23 PM

And I didn't send the song that at least four or five people will definitely send.

Do you mean Blackest Eyes? I wouldn't recommend it.

I would've predicated Futile. Would that be futile to send? It was an original pick for me but I dropped it weeks ago.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 15, 2021, 03:19:14 PM

And I didn't send the song that at least four or five people will definitely send.

Do you mean Blackest Eyes? I wouldn't recommend it.

You wouldn't recommend sending it, or you wouldn't recommend NOT sending it? :lol


And I didn't send the song that at least four or five people will definitely send.

Do you mean Blackest Eyes? I wouldn't recommend it.

I would've predicated Futile. Would that be futile to send? It was an original pick for me but I dropped it weeks ago.

Futile is a bit of a deep cut. It was on my shortlist, though upon re-listening to it the vocals in the chorus were a bit more annoying than I remembered.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Crow on December 15, 2021, 03:21:14 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/5y1emx.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: TAC on December 15, 2021, 03:22:37 PM
Cyril knows what's up, except that Kingshmegland has a beard.



Never heard Futile.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2021, 03:29:38 PM
Yeah, nice.  Leper was my other choice but at least my two weren't far off.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: TAC on December 15, 2021, 03:33:01 PM
MMMMEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHH!!!!!

SSSUUURRREEWWWWAAASSSS!!!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Crow on December 15, 2021, 03:33:20 PM
i changed my submissions
there's actually one song i probably should've sent instead of the second song i did send and i wouldn't be surprised if someone else does send it
but i ended up going for a different approach than i originally planned for this one because i have a good idea of why TAC doesn't like blackest eyes and it eliminates like two-thirds of PT's discography :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: TAC on December 15, 2021, 03:34:28 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2021, 03:39:03 PM
Sent.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: ariich on December 15, 2021, 03:46:42 PM
i have a good idea of why TAC doesn't like blackest eyes and it eliminates like two-thirds of PT's discography :lol
So I've no idea why, but similarly I feel like PT is probably not really for Tim.

But who knows, he's surprised us in previous rounds.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: TAC on December 15, 2021, 03:52:04 PM
i have a good idea of why TAC doesn't like blackest eyes and it eliminates like two-thirds of PT's discography :lol
So I've no idea why, but similarly I feel like PT is probably not really for Tim.

But who knows, he's surprised us in previous rounds.

I've really enjoyed this roulette I must say. I lot more than I thought I would. The BTBAM was a bit tough to get through, but other than that, it's been pleasantly surprising.

And Rich, it'd be easier to catch Puppies if you send different songs. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: ariich on December 15, 2021, 03:56:16 PM
And Rich, it'd be easier to catch Puppies if you send different songs. :lol
Yeah seriously.

At least you liked Burden a bit more than Deliverance. :lol

I might go a little more off-piste this round, but then maybe Chris will do the same (or maybe he won't but I'll just fail miserably anyway!).
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2021, 04:00:27 PM
Not a major PT fan, but I have a few songs I really like that are not on Deadwing.  One is a pretty big gamble but I love the tune and the whole vibe and atmosphere behind it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Elite on December 15, 2021, 04:03:08 PM
YESSSS!! A good round for once!

When as top scorer of the round, I can definitely live with that :biggrin:

Looks like you might like My Arms, Your Hearse as a whole. Can recommend it, my second favourite Opeth album :)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: TAC on December 15, 2021, 04:03:56 PM
And Rich, it'd be easier to catch Puppies if you send different songs. :lol
Yeah seriously.

At least you liked Burden a bit more than Deliverance. :lol

I might go a little more off-piste this round, but then maybe Chris will do the same (or maybe he won't but I'll just fail miserably anyway!).

And "off-piste" is British for.....? :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Elite on December 15, 2021, 04:04:04 PM
I see my win came down to Godhead beating out April Ethereal. Either way, MAYA and Still Life represent!

:metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on December 15, 2021, 04:04:34 PM

HOF

Windowpane...8.4

The song goes back and forth three times in the first 3-4 minutes between vocal and instrumental sections. I like those instrumental drop ins. It’s pretty chill, but by the end of the third cycle, I’m ready for something else. It begins to  draw some energy before a slight change at 4:40. It stays kind of Pink Floydish and really fucking cool. I love these couple of minutes. They should’ve just let that fade out, but unfortunately the vocals come back at 6:30. The keyboard treatments in the outro are nice. This is a cool song.

Hope Leaves...7.4

Not unpleasant by any stretch. An interesting side of Opeth for sure. But this is like sending Beth in a KISS Round.
8.4=7.4=15.8/2=7.90


Pssh. As if Beth isn’t Kiss’ best song!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 15, 2021, 04:08:47 PM

HOF

Windowpane...8.4

The song goes back and forth three times in the first 3-4 minutes between vocal and instrumental sections. I like those instrumental drop ins. It’s pretty chill, but by the end of the third cycle, I’m ready for something else. It begins to  draw some energy before a slight change at 4:40. It stays kind of Pink Floydish and really fucking cool. I love these couple of minutes. They should’ve just let that fade out, but unfortunately the vocals come back at 6:30. The keyboard treatments in the outro are nice. This is a cool song.

Hope Leaves...7.4

Not unpleasant by any stretch. An interesting side of Opeth for sure. But this is like sending Beth in a KISS Round.
8.4=7.4=15.8/2=7.90


Pssh. As if Beth isn’t Kiss’ best song!


 :lol :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: ariich on December 15, 2021, 04:09:48 PM
And Rich, it'd be easier to catch Puppies if you send different songs. :lol
Yeah seriously.

At least you liked Burden a bit more than Deliverance. :lol

I might go a little more off-piste this round, but then maybe Chris will do the same (or maybe he won't but I'll just fail miserably anyway!).

And "off-piste" is British for.....? :lol
adjective: off-piste
 - situated or taking place away from prepared ski runs.
"off-piste slopes"
 - deviating from what is conventional, usual, or expected.
"an off-piste show"
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 15, 2021, 04:33:14 PM
MMMMEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHH!!!!!

SSSUUURRREEWWWWAAASSSS!!!!!

 ;D

(https://i.postimg.cc/mkHRR4dr/tumblr-o3oipnqi-ZR1qzpn6vo2-540.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 15, 2021, 04:53:35 PM
Yikes. Sent for PT.

Gave TAC a lot to listen to.  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 15, 2021, 06:35:03 PM
And Rich, it'd be easier to catch Puppies if you send different songs. :lol
Yeah seriously.

At least you liked Burden a bit more than Deliverance. :lol

I might go a little more off-piste this round, but then maybe Chris will do the same (or maybe he won't but I'll just fail miserably anyway!).
Let's see if I can manage to send the same songs. My lead is slowly dwindling. :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: KevShmev on December 15, 2021, 07:16:31 PM
The outro, yes.  It sounds a bit strange, yes, but it's a weird little thing that works.  It's like the feeling of losing it and then it segues perfectly into the next song. 
Yeah it's not really part of the song, more of an interlude and segue into the next one. But on Spotify there's no way to remove or automatically skip it so I guess Tim had to listen to it every time with no context. :lol

Using Spotify for anything is the biggest fail in this whole thing, to be honest.  ;)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 15, 2021, 07:30:16 PM
The outro, yes.  It sounds a bit strange, yes, but it's a weird little thing that works.  It's like the feeling of losing it and then it segues perfectly into the next song. 
Yeah it's not really part of the song, more of an interlude and segue into the next one. But on Spotify there's no way to remove or automatically skip it so I guess Tim had to listen to it every time with no context. :lol

Using Spotify for anything is the biggest fail in this whole thing, to be honest.  ;)
:neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 15, 2021, 07:44:25 PM
Just sent. Both live tracks. I am not feeling confident with this round at all. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: TAC on December 15, 2021, 07:48:41 PM
I'm 48 seconds into the first song I listen to for this round and I feel like I'm gonna puke over these vocals. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 15, 2021, 08:01:29 PM
I'm 48 seconds into the first song I listen to for this round and I feel like I'm gonna puke over these vocals. :lol

Did someone send The Same Asylum As Before? :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: TAC on December 15, 2021, 08:03:52 PM
I'm 48 seconds into the first song I listen to for this round and I feel like I'm gonna puke over these vocals. :lol

Did someone send The Same Asylum As Before? :lol

 :corn

I can't discuss songs that may or may not have been sent until everyone is in.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: lonestar on December 15, 2021, 09:27:04 PM
Aaaaaaaaaand sent.

With the freedom of being in last place, I sent my two favorites. One from PT and on from SW.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: HOF on December 15, 2021, 09:35:30 PM
Aaaaaaaaaand sent.

With the freedom of being in last place, I sent my two favorites. One from PT and on from SW.

Don't take your freedom for granted, because I'm gunning for your spot!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: ariich on December 16, 2021, 02:58:02 AM
Sent.

One song could be a really obvious one, the other might be but to be honest I don't really know what approach others will take. Feels like the riskiest of all the rounds so far, so I'm very interested to see what people have sent.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 16, 2021, 04:21:16 AM
Sent

and because Tim is starting to hate SW (or at least the vocals) someone should send Hatesong and Don't Hate Me, then at least the titles would be kinda fitting.  :D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Elite on December 16, 2021, 06:22:40 AM
What if I sent a PT song and a SW song, with another PT song as my wildcard and you end up hating the SW song most? Do I meed to send two wildcards? :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 16, 2021, 08:26:20 AM
I kinda wanted to send Hatesong as it's one of my favorites, but I think TAC would, well, hate it.

Come to think of it, I didn't send any of the songs in my top three:
Trains
Hatesong
Russia On Ice
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: 425 on December 16, 2021, 08:31:31 AM
Cool to get some pretty solid scores on my Watershed picks! I kind of agree that the end of The Lotus Eater is not as strong as the beginning. Overall I think a downside of a lot of the longer metal Opeth songs is that they can be uneven, having really good sections mixed in with sections that are merely okay. Heir Apparent is one of the chief exceptions to that IMO, where the whole thing is good, so I'm happy with the 8.4

The Funeral Portrait as the top song on Blackwater Park (granted you did not get Patterns in the Ivy) is such an uncommon opinion, but it's one I low-key kind of agree with. At least, for me, it would be between Funeral Portrait and the title track.

Just sent Porcupine Tree's best song even though it's not intuitively one to send here.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Evermind on December 16, 2021, 09:24:42 AM
Hell yeah! My goal is to finish last now while still sending my favourite PT songs. Here we go!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 16, 2021, 09:43:48 AM
I kinda wanted to send Hatesong as it's one of my favorites, but I think TAC would, well, hate it.

Come to think of it, I didn't send any of the songs in my top three:
Trains
Hatesong
Russia On Ice
I considered sending Russia on Ice, but I feel like Tim would find most of it boring. :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 16, 2021, 09:55:13 AM
I sent my Sucks & Blows.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Lonk on December 16, 2021, 10:01:27 AM
I kinda wanted to send Hatesong as it's one of my favorites, but I think TAC would, well, hate it.

Come to think of it, I didn't send any of the songs in my top three:
Trains
Hatesong
Russia On Ice
I considered sending Russia on Ice, but I feel like Tim would find most of it boring. :corn
Same.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Stadler on December 16, 2021, 10:37:39 AM
Lowest scores of the round.  At least I know it's not "me", since I'm basically picking stuff at random, but still....

:)


Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Evermind on December 16, 2021, 11:40:23 AM
I kinda wanted to send Hatesong as it's one of my favorites, but I think TAC would, well, hate it.

Come to think of it, I didn't send any of the songs in my top three:
Trains
Hatesong
Russia On Ice
I considered sending Russia on Ice, but I feel like Tim would find most of it boring. :corn

I wanted to send Trains but figured other people will. I did send a 10+ minutes song though. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Crow on December 16, 2021, 11:44:42 AM
I, too, sent a 10+ minute song to spite TAC specifically.
Trains would do very badly in this roulette, I feel. Watch me be wrong!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 16, 2021, 11:46:14 AM
Well I sent 2 over 10 minutes.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 16, 2021, 12:06:56 PM
Since Deadwing is banned there's literally only like 3 10+ minute PT songs that wouldn't be absolute suicide to send :corn

That number does jump up a bit if you're including solo SW stuff though...
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 16, 2021, 12:07:43 PM
I sent Linton Samuel Dawson and Jupiter Island just to annoy Tim





Not
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 16, 2021, 12:08:58 PM
Someone send the full 40 minute Moonloop
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 16, 2021, 12:13:47 PM
Or the Metanoia improvisations or the complete Voyage 34 trip, the possibilities are endless.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: TAC on December 16, 2021, 12:35:00 PM
OK, I'm home from work. Gotta peel through the PMs.

Just waiting for 3 2 more.

Elite
Stadler
LudwigVan
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Stadler on December 16, 2021, 01:16:34 PM
Take me off the list!  I tortured myself sufficiently to get two songs to submit!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Crow on December 16, 2021, 01:19:02 PM
I am incredibly curious about what's being sent in this round, not gonna lie  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Revenge319 on December 16, 2021, 01:24:18 PM
If I was participating, I would have sent two songs from The Incident, because I'm unsure if anyone else would have.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: romdrums on December 16, 2021, 01:26:22 PM
Someone send the full 40 minute Moonloop

Can't because it's instrumental.  But, sending the 34 minute version of The Sky Moves Sideways and Raider II would be super trolly. :D.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 16, 2021, 01:31:56 PM
If I was participating, I would have sent two songs from The Incident, because I'm unsure if anyone else would have.

I included one in my possible three. :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: TAC on December 16, 2021, 01:38:52 PM
If I was participating, I would have sent two songs from The Incident, because I'm unsure if anyone else would have.

I included one in my possible three. :corn

The good news..I eliminated one of your Wild Cards™ last night.
The bad news...I had to listen to it to do so.

 ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Crow on December 16, 2021, 01:44:06 PM
I hope the eliminated wild card was a song I sent too
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 16, 2021, 01:51:48 PM
I sent just over 30 min of music. He did tell me that someone already sent one of them, so I guess I sent less.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 16, 2021, 01:53:10 PM
If I was participating, I would have sent two songs from The Incident, because I'm unsure if anyone else would have.

I included one in my possible three. :corn

The good news..I eliminated one of your Wild Cards™ last night.
The bad news...I had to listen to it to do so.

 ;D

Keeping me in suspense as well, are ya? :corn

I'm going to guess it's The Long One™ but my assumptions are often very wrong in this roulette
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 16, 2021, 03:07:21 PM
I sent Linton Samuel Dawson and Jupiter Island just to annoy Tim





Not
Oh jeez, that would have been hilarious!  :rollin
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: TAC on December 16, 2021, 06:46:58 PM
You know what's really jumping out at me, with what I've listened to so far. is the influence of Led Zeppelin.

Also..there is some great lead guitar playing.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 16, 2021, 08:58:11 PM
You know what's really jumping out at me, with what I've listened to so far. is the influence of Led Zeppelin.

Also..there is some great lead guitar playing.
I do think that Steven Wilson is underrated as a guitarist. :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: HOF on December 16, 2021, 09:21:31 PM
You know what's really jumping out at me, with what I've listened to so far. is the influence of Led Zeppelin.

Also..there is some great lead guitar playing.
I do think that Steven Wilson is underrated as a guitarist. :metal

I've always enjoyed his playing as well. He's a better guitarist than singer!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: LudwigVan on December 16, 2021, 10:22:37 PM
OK, I'm home from work. Gotta peel through the PMs.

Just waiting for 3 2 more.

Elite
Stadler
LudwigVan

Sent!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: ariich on December 16, 2021, 11:40:21 PM
You know what's really jumping out at me, with what I've listened to so far. is the influence of Led Zeppelin.

Also..there is some great lead guitar playing.
I do think that Steven Wilson is underrated as a guitarist. :metal

I've always enjoyed his playing as well. He's a better guitarist than singer!
He's ok, but I've never found him anything special.

But any songs Tim's received from the two albums he did with Guthrie Govan, different story.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 17, 2021, 01:14:06 AM
You know what's really jumping out at me, with what I've listened to so far. is the influence of Led Zeppelin.

Also..there is some great lead guitar playing.

He has his moments but I never really thought he was that good.

And I don't know what songs you received but his Pink Floyd influence is a lot bigger, but maybe more so in his earlier works.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: Elite on December 17, 2021, 02:02:25 AM
What if I sent a PT song and a SW song, with another PT song as my wildcard and you end up hating the SW song most? Do I meed to send two wildcards? :biggrin:

I need to know!
This is the round I'm sending a wildcard in, haven't done it yet :)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: TAC on December 17, 2021, 03:17:41 AM
What if I sent a PT song and a SW song, with another PT song as my wildcard and you end up hating the SW song most? Do I meed to send two wildcards? :biggrin:

I need to know!
This is the round I'm sending a wildcard in, haven't done it yet :)

You only have one Wild Card! That means you can send three songs instead of two.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: ariich on December 17, 2021, 03:36:36 AM
What if I sent a PT song and a SW song, with another PT song as my wildcard and you end up hating the SW song most? Do I meed to send two wildcards? :biggrin:

I need to know!
This is the round I'm sending a wildcard in, haven't done it yet :)

You only have one Wild Card! That means you can send three songs instead of two.
Also, it's perfectly fine to send two PT songs so the question didn't matter anyway.

It would be different if someone sent two SW songs and one PT song. In that situation, you'd only be able to eliminate one of the SW songs.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorpeth!
Post by: wolfking on December 17, 2021, 04:34:03 AM
You know what's really jumping out at me, with what I've listened to so far. is the influence of Led Zeppelin.

Also..there is some great lead guitar playing.

He has his moments but I never really thought he was that good.

And I don't know what songs you received but his Pink Floyd influence is a lot bigger, but maybe more so in his earlier works.

One of the songs I sent has a massive PF influence, and I don't even really like PF.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 17, 2021, 04:48:15 AM
I’ve definitely heard Pink Floyd. The drummer is at least a Bonham fan.


And Kwyjibo, I don’t know how technical the guitarist is, but there’s been some great lead passages.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on December 17, 2021, 06:13:54 AM
What if I sent a PT song and a SW song, with another PT song as my wildcard and you end up hating the SW song most? Do I meed to send two wildcards? :biggrin:

I need to know!
This is the round I'm sending a wildcard in, haven't done it yet :)

You only have one Wild Card! That means you can send three songs instead of two.
Also, it's perfectly fine to send two PT songs so the question didn't matter anyway.

It would be different if someone sent two SW songs and one PT song. In that situation, you'd only be able to eliminate one of the SW songs.

Oh wow wtf, I thought I *had* to send at least one SW song, or that it was a Steven Wilson solo round. Well then, never mind. Sending two PT songs this afternoon!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on December 17, 2021, 06:19:52 AM
I didn't send this song, and I don't know if he is the one playing guitar, but the solo on Detonation from SW's To the Bone is  :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 17, 2021, 07:00:19 AM
What if I sent a PT song and a SW song, with another PT song as my wildcard and you end up hating the SW song most? Do I meed to send two wildcards? :biggrin:

I need to know!
This is the round I'm sending a wildcard in, haven't done it yet :)

You only have one Wild Card! That means you can send three songs instead of two.
Also, it's perfectly fine to send two PT songs so the question didn't matter anyway.

It would be different if someone sent two SW songs and one PT song. In that situation, you'd only be able to eliminate one of the SW songs.

Oh wow wtf, I thought I *had* to send at least one SW song, or that it was a Steven Wilson solo round. Well then, never mind. Sending two PT songs this afternoon!

No, you don’t need to send a SW song. It came up earlier in the thread and I said you could send a SW song instead of a PT song. I’ve gotten a few SW songs so far.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 17, 2021, 12:27:30 PM
Sending two PT songs this afternoon!

 :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 17, 2021, 12:36:13 PM
 :corn :corn :corn :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on December 17, 2021, 12:42:24 PM
I hadn't ever really thought about it before, but I guess I could see a little bit of Zeppelin in one of the songs I sent. More in the guitar than the drums. Could also see a comparison to Ramble On perhaps.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on December 17, 2021, 12:45:55 PM
Yeah, one interesting part of this roulette has been TAC's comparisons to other artists. It seems like every round he makes a comparison that I've never read before and would never have thought of on my own, but that makes sense when I think about it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 17, 2021, 12:47:23 PM
yeah
"wow, devin townsend seems like a huge thin lizzy fan"
"opeth is basically thin lizzy when you get right down to it"
"steven wilson more like thinven lizzyson"
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on December 17, 2021, 01:01:54 PM
Sending two PT songs this afternoon!

 :corn

Sent! It's evening here though. Man, that was a long day today!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 17, 2021, 01:08:57 PM
yeah
"wow, devin townsend seems like a huge thin lizzy fan"
"opeth is basically thin lizzy when you get right down to it"
"steven wilson more like thinven lizzyson"

(https://i.imgur.com/pBAU8gn.png)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 17, 2021, 01:13:54 PM
Sending two PT songs this afternoon!

 :corn

Sent! It's evening here though. Man, that was a long day today!

Thanks Rich! Once I eliminate your Wild Card, I'll post the list/playlist and stats!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on December 17, 2021, 01:16:15 PM
:corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on December 17, 2021, 01:33:02 PM
yeah
"wow, devin townsend seems like a huge thin lizzy fan"
"opeth is basically thin lizzy when you get right down to it"
"steven wilson more like thinven lizzyson"

Storm Corrosion is a Thin Lizzy album
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on December 17, 2021, 01:33:59 PM
yeah
"wow, devin townsend seems like a huge thin lizzy fan"
"opeth is basically thin lizzy when you get right down to it"
"steven wilson more like thinven lizzyson"

Storm Corrosion is a Thin Lizzy album

The Boys Are Back In Absentia
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 17, 2021, 01:38:31 PM
Steven Wilson says he has "never heard of Thin Lizzy" in a new interview
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 17, 2021, 02:45:09 PM
Steven Wilson reveals he's never heard any music at all other than his own. Because everything else is not relevant.  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 17, 2021, 02:47:39 PM
Steven Wilson remixes his wife's muffin mix.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 17, 2021, 02:53:06 PM
Love the Thin Lizzy jokes, guys! :lol :lol




Steven Wilson remixes his wife's muffin mix.

 :lol

She's about to put it in the oven and he's like.."hey give me that!"
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on December 17, 2021, 02:57:28 PM
Steven Wilson reveals he's never heard any music at all other than his own. Because everything else is not relevant.  ;D

This reminded me of an interview I saw over a decade ago, Rusty Cooley said he was not in a big metal band because there weren't any musicians good enough to play with him.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 17, 2021, 03:22:46 PM
Here's the List!

Romdrums
So Called Friend
Sever

Cyril
Luminol (SW)
Dark Matter

Vmadera
Fear Of A Blank Planet
The Sound Of Musak

Buddy
Strip The Soul
Anesthetize

Wolfking
Don’t Hate Me
The Sound Of Muzak

Professor
Russia On Ice
Anesthetize

Puppies
Anesthetize (Live)
Hatesong (Live)

HOF
Lightbulb Sun
The Sound Of Muzak

Lonestar
Luminol (SW)
Anesthetize

Ariich
Trains
Ancestral (SW)

Kwyjibo
Even Less
Gravity Eyelids

425
Trains
Luminol (SW)

Evermind
Heartattack In A Layby
Ancestral (SW)

Kingshmegland
Time Flies
Hand Cannot Erase (SW)

Stadler
Men Of Wood
Trains

LudwigVan
Anesthetize
Normal

Elite
Dislocation Day
Synesthesia


https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3aoVh0MnE2LoiTFOuuDz0y?si=5daf87bdffb34ec3


Elite..I'm using the original version of Synesthesia on Youtube, and not the extended version in the playlist.

Romdrums...I'm using the studio version of My So Called Friend from Youtube and not the live version in the playlist.

They are only listed as placeholders to remind me to listen to the youtube versions. They both sound fine, no need to worry about youtube quality. it's a non issue for me.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on December 17, 2021, 03:29:49 PM
Gosh, some very interesting choices. Quite a few that I definitely would not have thought to send you, so it'll be interesting to see what you think.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 17, 2021, 03:33:28 PM
Russia on Fire  :lol

honestly surprised we got no Way Out of Here, that was my third pick in a theoretical wildcard situation
very unsurprised we got a lot of Luminol and Anesthetitze  :lol
Anesthetize is the worst song on the album fwiw. i stand by this

Heartattack in a Layby is an excellent song that I think is gonna bore TAC to tears but we'll see  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on December 17, 2021, 03:34:57 PM
Gosh, some very interesting choices. Quite a few that I definitely would not have thought to send you, so it'll be interesting to see what you think.

Yeah, I definitely would not have sent early PT on this.

Then again, you and I both sent the choo choo song, which is probably counterintuitive—it's just such a good song that I'm willing to bet on it succeeding on its merits.


Russia on Fire  :lol

honestly surprised we got no Way Out of Here, that was my third pick in a theoretical wildcard situation
very unsurprised we got a lot of Luminol and Anesthetitze  :lol
Anesthetize is the worst song on the album fwiw. i stand by this

My third pick would have been either Way Out of Here or My Ashes.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 17, 2021, 03:35:59 PM
would have never considered My Ashes in a billion years, for much the same reason as Heartattack in a Layby

also yeah Trains is great too
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on December 17, 2021, 03:39:28 PM
I find Heartattack in a Layby kind of dull and My Ashes pretty interesting and dynamic, but that might just be a matter of personal preference.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 17, 2021, 03:44:12 PM
I really thought hard about Gravity Eyelids.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on December 17, 2021, 04:06:06 PM
Cyril sent the best song and I didn't send it, though I almost did, because I don't think TAC would like it.

Nobody sent the song on my wildcard that got cut off.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 17, 2021, 04:11:04 PM
The two Wild Cards that were eliminated were Bonnie The Cat and Always Never, and I must say...they were easy choices.

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on December 17, 2021, 04:11:47 PM
Who sent Bonnie the Cat? :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on December 17, 2021, 04:14:56 PM
Gosh, some very interesting choices. Quite a few that I definitely would not have thought to send you, so it'll be interesting to see what you think.

Yeah, I definitely would not have sent early PT on this.

Well, we'll find out! For one thing, Steven's voice is a lot less 'whiny' or 'nasal' on the early records and - to me - some of his compositions there are more interesting than on later records. I think Coma Divine is still one of the best live prog records I've heard. Signify is my favourite PT album, The Sky Moves Sideways and Up the Downstair are up there among his best too, if you ask me. There's a lot of demos and outtakes from that era that are good as well.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on December 17, 2021, 04:15:03 PM
I love Bonnie the Cat but it's very obviously not a TAC song. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 17, 2021, 04:15:31 PM
Who sent Bonnie the Cat? :lol

Buddy The Hunter.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 17, 2021, 04:22:46 PM
Cyril sent the best song and I didn't send it, though I almost did, because I don't think TAC would like it.
I sent it because pre-pop PT seems like the way to go to me. What I suspect turned him off of blackest eyes (and maybe PT in general) is the very 90's pop rock verses and chorus and that sound is prevalent all over pretty much every PT album from stupid dream onward. Certainly not on every song but it's absolutely a defining aspect of it (and SW from HCE onwards too, tbh)

I'll be totally honest I almost sent Raven in place of Luminol too but I didn't want two slow tracks. I don't think I've listened to Luminol in years but it's a pretty obvious pick so whatever lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 17, 2021, 04:27:08 PM
Drive home was another I thought hard about. That solo itself is worth it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Revenge319 on December 17, 2021, 04:35:24 PM
My choices probably would've been Octane Twisted along with either The Blind House, The Incident, or Time Flies (nice to see Time Flies was sent, though!). If I picked something from Disc 2 from The Incident, I probably would've gone with Remember Me Lover rather than Bonnie the Cat. Some non-TI choices I would've made might include Prodigal, .3, or maybe even Four Chords That Made A Million. And if I were to send a Steven Wilson song, it'd be either Home Invasion or Drive Home.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 17, 2021, 04:38:08 PM
A few thoughts on the songs that were sent.

- I can't believe I forgot about So Called Friend. That is a great song!
- I'm not surprised Anesthetize got sent four times, despite Cyril thinking it's the worst song on the album.
- I'm a little worried that no one else sent live tracks. In my opinion, Porcupine Tree shines more in a live environment. Sometimes their studio albums can be a little.....too pristine.
- I almost sent Dark Matter, glad that Cyril sent it. Good song.
- Dislocated Day is another song I strongly considered, but ultimately decided against. I do think Tim will like it though.
- Also, I wavered back and forth over sending the live version of Anesthetize and Way Out of Here for way longer than I care to admit.
- Perhaps the strangest song that was sent is Gravity Eyelids. I don't think that will be Tim's jam at all, but who knows. :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 17, 2021, 04:38:48 PM
ftr my first submission of PT/SW was Blackest Eyes and Home Invasion/Regret #9 (they're tracked together on spotify so)
this probably would not have gone over well  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on December 17, 2021, 04:52:13 PM
For what it’s worth, I love Gravity Eyelids and I understand why someone would send it. I almost went with luve tracks from the Coma Divine album too, bit ultimately decided against it, because some of that is a little rough around the edges, which I personally enjoy a lot, but I think that live album is better as a whole than when you’d take tracks off it.

And Cyril, you nailed it for me why I went with older PT, aside from my general own enjoyment of those albums. I figured that would be the way to go for this roulette.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 17, 2021, 05:30:29 PM
Being the only one that sent Don't Hate Me, interested to see how it goes.  I love that song.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 17, 2021, 05:51:46 PM
And Cyril, you nailed it for me why I went with older PT, aside from my general own enjoyment of those albums. I figured that would be the way to go for this roulette.

Except, when I heard the first few lines of Always Never, I wanted to punch my speakers. :lol




- Also, I wavered back and forth over sending the live version of Anesthetize

So while I already have the studio version sent, why not send me an additional 17 minute live version??  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 17, 2021, 06:00:49 PM
it seems like a great way to make TAC hate the song and lower its score so i'm all for it  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 17, 2021, 06:11:34 PM
Romdrums
So Called Friend
Sever

Elite
Dislocated Day
Synesthesia

These are some bizarre-ass choices.
Synesthesia and Sever are fine I guess but Dislocated Day is one of my least-favorite PT songs, I find it just plain obnoxious.

Re-listening to So Called Friend for the first time in forever and holy fuck I forgot how much of a Tool ripoff this song is. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 17, 2021, 06:22:57 PM
Romdrums going after the heavy PT thinking it is what Tim likes. Not rocket science. 
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 17, 2021, 06:24:38 PM
yeah relistening to it i think TAC's not gonna be wild about the middle third of luminol but the first and last thirds seem like a sure hit to me
this song's pretty good, probably one of the best SW solo songs tbh
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 17, 2021, 06:25:26 PM
It's too wanky for him.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 17, 2021, 06:30:43 PM
Romdrums going after the heavy PT thinking it is what Tim likes. Not rocket science.

Sever's not even that heavy though.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 17, 2021, 06:43:15 PM
Romdrums going after the heavy PT thinking it is what Tim likes. Not rocket science.

Sever's not even that heavy though.

I think it's the heavy moments but I'm with you. Tim is a very peculiar duck when it comes to music.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 17, 2021, 06:59:44 PM
It's too wanky for him.

I like to wank.

Er..wanky music.



Heavy Porcupine Tree sounds like an awful idea, honestly. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 17, 2021, 07:06:02 PM
It's too wanky for him.

I like to wank.

Er..wanky music.



Heavy Porcupine Tree sounds like an awful idea, honestly. :lol

We'll see in the results. Lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 17, 2021, 08:00:43 PM
Yeah, one interesting part of this roulette has been TAC's comparisons to other artists. It seems like every round he makes a comparison that I've never read before and would never have thought of on my own, but that makes sense when I think about it.

Thanks, 425!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on December 17, 2021, 08:12:51 PM
Surprised I was the only one to send "Fear of a blank planet", we'll see how it does  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 17, 2021, 08:22:35 PM
OK, I've been through the playlist once.

Overall general First Impressions..

-The Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd influences are huge.
-The lead guitar playing is excellent. Such a wonderful tone.
-Some of the lyrics I picked up are kind of cringey.
-Steven Wilson's vocals are really awful in spots. They feel so patronizing. He definitely suffers from The Guy Who Thinks He's The Smartest Guy In The Room Syndrome.
-There are a couple of songs where I think "Why would anyone send this to me?".
-For those that sent Anesthetize...the final section drags the song down.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 17, 2021, 08:25:36 PM
I guess Russia On Fire is the sequel to Russia On Ice?  :lol

I originally had Futile and swapped it for Russia. I had a feeling he would ding the latter end of Anesthetize. Not really surprised. Figured he'd enjoy Lifeson's solo.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 17, 2021, 08:29:55 PM
He couldn't tell you where Alex's solo is.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on December 17, 2021, 08:34:20 PM
OK, I've been through the playlist once.

Overall general First Impressions..

-The Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd influences are huge.
-The lead guitar playing is excellent. Such a wonderful tone.
-Some of the lyrics I picked up are kind of cringey.
-Steven Wilson's vocals are really awful in spots. They feel so patronizing. He definitely suffers from The Guy Who Thinks He's The Smartest Guy In The Room Syndrome.
-There are a couple of songs where I think "Why would anyone send this to me?".
-For those that sent Anesthetize...the final section drags the song down.

Truthfully, The Sound of Muzak’s lyrics are pretty bad. Also, the bolded part is not wrong!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 17, 2021, 08:36:04 PM
I guess Russia On Fire is the sequel to Russia On Ice?  :lol

 :rollin :rollin :rollin

I'm telling you, this roulette has been a nightmare in terms of keeping things straight.





I originally had Futile and swapped it for Russia.

Having never heard a lick of Futile, I can't imagine it'd be better than Russia On Ice.


Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 17, 2021, 08:37:43 PM
He couldn't tell you where Alex's solo is.

I know where it is. I was told by the 10 people that sent it where it was. The thing is, when I listened to the song, I realized I completely missed the solo. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 17, 2021, 08:43:42 PM
yeah dark matter deffo has the pink floyd vibes in spades i'd say  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: KevShmev on December 17, 2021, 08:48:29 PM

-There are a couple of songs where I think "Why would anyone send this to me?".


That is called So Called Friend.  So many great ones, and that one gets sent?  Ugh.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 17, 2021, 08:52:06 PM
He couldn't tell you where Alex's solo is.

I know where it is. I was told by the 10 people that sent it where it was. The thing is, when I listened to the song, I realized I completely missed the solo. :lol

Too funny. 
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on December 17, 2021, 10:16:59 PM
These are some bizarre-ass choices.
Synesthesia and Sever are fine I guess but Dislocated Day is one of my least-favorite PT songs, I find it just plain obnoxious.

I can't stand Dislocated Day.


-Some of the lyrics I picked up are kind of cringey.
-Steven Wilson's vocals are really awful in spots. They feel so patronizing. He definitely suffers from The Guy Who Thinks He's The Smartest Guy In The Room Syndrome.

Definitely two complaints I understand and share to some degree.

I think Wilson has occasional moments of lyrical cleverness, but a lot of parts that I find odd and some that I find really off-putting. Part of the reason Deadwing and The Raven That Refused to Sing are easily my two favorite Wilson albums is that the lyrics on the former are mostly inscrutable and the lyrics on the latter are much better than Wilson's average. Meanwhile, I think In Absentia and FoaBP are really good musically, but so off-putting lyrically as to drag my enjoyment of them way down.

I think his vocals are best when he's doing the sort of laid-back Floydian thing or the plaintive thing. When he tries to bring an edge or attitude, it doesn't work. Lazarus, yes. Fear of a Blank Planet, no.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 17, 2021, 10:36:38 PM
Quote
Stadler
Men Of Wood
Trains

What the fuck??? How the hell did I miss this? :rollin
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 18, 2021, 12:31:18 AM
Quote
Stadler
Men Of Wood
Trains

What the fuck??? How the hell did I miss this? :rollin
Wow, how did I miss this as well!?! Man, if Tim hated the guitar tone at the beginning of Gravity's Union, he's going to flip a table and punch a wall with this one...  :rollin

I guess if I had know people would be sending the more obscure PT stuff, I would have sent Hokey Cokey :neverusethis: or maybe Nun's Cleavage...
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on December 18, 2021, 01:06:50 AM
Heartattack in a Layby is an excellent song that I think is gonna bore TAC to tears but we'll see  :lol

I agree but I don't give a shit anymore. :lol

I find Heartattack in a Layby kind of dull and My Ashes pretty interesting and dynamic, but that might just be a matter of personal preference.

I find you kind of dull, but that might just be a matter of personal preference.

Also good on Rich sending Ancestral too!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 18, 2021, 01:15:04 AM
Heartattack in a Layby is an excellent song that I think is gonna bore TAC to tears but we'll see  :lol

I agree but I don't give a shit anymore. :lol
oh, to be near the bottom of the leaderboards and have the freedom to send whatever the hell you want just for kicks
i like ancestral but i feel like it's too slow to get going for TAC, watch me be wrong  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 18, 2021, 02:09:20 AM
I think it's better to send songs I like than to send songs I think might be in line with Tim's taste.

That's why I sent Gravity Eyelids because I think it's one of PTs best.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on December 18, 2021, 03:55:41 AM
Quote
Stadler
Men Of Wood
Trains

What the fuck??? How the hell did I miss this? :rollin

And I missed it too :rollin
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on December 18, 2021, 04:02:06 AM
I think it's better to send songs I like than to send songs I think might be in line with Tim's taste.

That's why I sent Gravity Eyelids because I think it's one of PTs best.

Why can't it be both though? I sent songs that I like that I think might be in Line with Tim's taste. I'm completely with you that Gravity Eyelids is one of their best songs.

The most surprising things about these submissions to me are;
- Anesthetize being sent a lot; the song has good parts for sure, but it really doesn't justify it's 17 minute runtime
- nobody sent Way Out of Here
- I might have thought someone would send The Blind House, but the final section kind of drags that one down
- Trains is overrated
- Luminol is probably the 'safest' choice from SW's solo discography, but I'm a little surprised nobody tries something like Harmony Korine. My Book of Regrets might do well too.
- I'm not confident at all that my early PT picks will score well, but people saying Dislocated Day is bad.. :(
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 18, 2021, 04:43:07 AM
I never really rated Anesthetize either, but I'm only a casual PT fan.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 18, 2021, 04:59:10 AM
I think it's better to send songs I like than to send songs I think might be in line with Tim's taste.

That's why I sent Gravity Eyelids because I think it's one of PTs best.

Why can't it be both though? I sent songs that I like that I think might be in Line with Tim's taste. I'm completely with you that Gravity Eyelids is one of their best songs.

The most surprising things about these submissions to me are;
- Anesthetize being sent a lot; the song has good parts for sure, but it really doesn't justify it's 17 minute runtime
- nobody sent Way Out of Here
- I might have thought someone would send The Blind House, but the final section kind of drags that one down
- Trains is overrated
- Luminol is probably the 'safest' choice from SW's solo discography, but I'm a little surprised nobody tries something like Harmony Korine. My Book of Regrets might do well too.
- I'm not confident at all that my early PT picks will score well, but people saying Dislocated Day is bad.. :(

Sure it can be both.

And Anesthesize is overrated and it's really three songs that are somehow connected. And although it has a Lifeson solo, it's only an okay solo imo. Didn't need Lifeson to play it.

I'm surprised nobody sent Drive Home, back then everyone was raving about it.

And Dislocated Day is a good song, but we'll see if it's good enough.  :D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on December 18, 2021, 07:47:28 AM
I find Heartattack in a Layby kind of dull and My Ashes pretty interesting and dynamic, but that might just be a matter of personal preference.

I find you kind of dull, but that might just be a matter of personal preference.

No, I'm objectively dull. Ask WildRanger.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on December 18, 2021, 12:27:24 PM
I find Heartattack in a Layby kind of dull and My Ashes pretty interesting and dynamic, but that might just be a matter of personal preference.

I find you kind of dull, but that might just be a matter of personal preference.

No, I'm objectively dull. Ask WildRanger.

 ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 18, 2021, 06:24:41 PM
Second listens complete!

Lots to chew on. Surprisingly, these songs aren't very complex. I guess I was expecting something a bit more progressive, and a lot less straight forward.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 18, 2021, 06:28:49 PM
both PT and SW's solo stuff have a habit of starting off more prog and getting more pop and accessible as the discographies go on, so  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 18, 2021, 07:19:52 PM
It's not even so much that it's poppy. It's just...straight. And kind of jammy.

I'll also say that I've pretty much enjoyed most of what I've heard. yes, there's a few times where I want to punch Steven Wilson in the face, but mostly, it's been more than fine.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: KevShmev on December 18, 2021, 07:20:12 PM
Anesthetize is awesome from start to finish.  Very cohesive song.   :tup :tup
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 18, 2021, 07:20:56 PM
Anesthetize is awesome from start to finish.  Very cohesive song.   :tup :tup

Maybe from the start to the finish of the second section...
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: KevShmev on December 18, 2021, 07:22:07 PM
Anesthetize is awesome from start to finish.  Very cohesive song.   :tup :tup

Maybe from the start to the finish of the second section...

Nah, it's all great. That song does a great job of featuring the climax about 2/3 of the way through and then featuring a final section that is like the calm aftermath.  Kind of like the grandchild of The Gates of Delirium by Yes, although the two songs are pretty different overall.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 18, 2021, 07:26:26 PM
Never heard that Yes song.  :)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: KevShmev on December 18, 2021, 07:26:52 PM
Shocking.  :lol :lol

 :facepalm: :facepalm:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 18, 2021, 07:40:52 PM
The final section of Anesthetize is wonderful. One of the most depressing sections in PT's catalog.

In a good way. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 18, 2021, 07:47:06 PM
The final section of Anesthetize is wonderful.


Buddy
Strip The Soul
Anesthetize

(https://c.tenor.com/oc7MfKdTd3kAAAAM/batman-i-see.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 18, 2021, 08:01:14 PM
I feel like they should've switched the second and third sections of Anesthetize.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 18, 2021, 08:07:47 PM
BTW Tim, do you know which solo is Alex Lifeson on Anesthetize?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 18, 2021, 08:09:24 PM
The final section of Anesthetize is wonderful.


Buddy
Strip The Soul
Anesthetize

(https://c.tenor.com/oc7MfKdTd3kAAAAM/batman-i-see.gif)

I sent it for a reason, genius. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 18, 2021, 08:15:25 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Stadler on December 19, 2021, 09:28:13 AM
Quote
Stadler
Men Of Wood
Trains

What the fuck??? How the hell did I miss this? :rollin
Wow, how did I miss this as well!?! Man, if Tim hated the guitar tone at the beginning of Gravity's Union, he's going to flip a table and punch a wall with this one...  :rollin

I guess if I had know people would be sending the more obscure PT stuff, I would have sent Hokey Cokey :neverusethis: or maybe Nun's Cleavage...

I could just as easily as Tim run this roulette, because other than Neal Morse and... I forget the other [Ed.: Devin Townsend], I have no real love for any of these artists.  Add to that the fact that while we like a LOT of the same bands, if you took "Tim's Top Ten" of any band it's usually my "Bottom Top Ten" and vice versa, I'm just looking for interesting material to send.  I sell Trains for a living (sort of; I'm not a salesman) so there's that, and I thought the other was funny.   

(And all this is meant to HAVE fun; I'm hoping people get a laugh while we talk music.)

Oh, and by the way, I agree with this 100%:

-Steven Wilson's vocals are really awful in spots. They feel so patronizing. He definitely suffers from The Guy Who Thinks He's The Smartest Guy In The Room Syndrome.

and this:

Yeah, one interesting part of this roulette has been TAC's comparisons to other artists. It seems like every round he makes a comparison that I've never read before and would never have thought of on my own, but that makes sense when I think about it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: LudwigVan on December 19, 2021, 03:43:14 PM
Second listens complete!

Lots to chew on. Surprisingly, these songs aren't very complex. I guess I was expecting something a bit more progressive, and a lot less straight forward.

Yeah, Opeth are a lot more traditionally proggy than PT.

Steven Wilson actually spurns the ‘complex’ prog tradition of bands like Yes and ELP, instead going for the ambient, atmospheric Pink Floyd-ian prog style. At one time, he publicly scoffed at Dream Theater’s brand of prog, for which he apparently apologized for in Repentance on Systematic Chaos.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 19, 2021, 03:50:05 PM
Second listens complete!

Lots to chew on. Surprisingly, these songs aren't very complex. I guess I was expecting something a bit more progressive, and a lot less straight forward.

Yeah, Opeth are a lot more traditionally proggy than PT.

Steven Wilson actually spurns the ‘complex’ prog tradition of bands like Yes and ELP, instead going for the ambient, atmospheric Pink Floyd-ian prog style. At one time, he publicly scoffed at Dream Theater’s brand of prog, for which he apparently apologized for in Repentance on Systematic Chaos.

Gord, were you at the show where Ackerfeldt came out and sang a verse?
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Post by: LudwigVan on December 19, 2021, 03:54:49 PM
Second listens complete!

Lots to chew on. Surprisingly, these songs aren't very complex. I guess I was expecting something a bit more progressive, and a lot less straight forward.

Yeah, Opeth are a lot more traditionally proggy than PT.

Steven Wilson actually spurns the ‘complex’ prog tradition of bands like Yes and ELP, instead going for the ambient, atmospheric Pink Floyd-ian prog style. At one time, he publicly scoffed at Dream Theater’s brand of prog, for which he apparently apologized for in Repentance on Systematic Chaos.

Gord, were you at the show where Ackerfeldt came out and sang a verse?

Yes, I was. If I recall, it got messed up a little because when it came time for him to speak, the microphone failed on him, and they had to improvise/backtrack a bit to make it happen.

Also, “publicly scoff” is probably too strong a phrase, but I’m pretty sure SW has said that he didn’t care for DT’s style of music.
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Post by: TAC on December 19, 2021, 03:56:05 PM
I have always thought that it would've been cooler if he read some of the spoken word parts instead of simply singing a verse.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 20, 2021, 12:43:33 AM
Also, “publicly scoff” is probably too strong a phrase, but I’m pretty sure SW has said that he didn’t care for DT’s style of music.

Yes, DT is one of the many bands and "traditional" prog is one of the many directions SW doesn't care for. You could fill books with the bands/artists he doesn't like/don't care for/don't find relevant. And while that is his decision, because it's his taste, makes you wonder why he has to tell everyone about it.

Kinda like a vegan.  :D
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Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 20, 2021, 05:05:31 PM
Also, “publicly scoff” is probably too strong a phrase, but I’m pretty sure SW has said that he didn’t care for DT’s style of music.

Yes, DT is one of the many bands and "traditional" prog is one of the many directions SW doesn't care for. You could fill books with the bands/artists he doesn't like/don't care for/don't find relevant. And while that is his decision, because it's his taste, makes you wonder why he has to tell everyone about it.

Kinda like a vegan.  :D
Or people who do crossfit.  :lol
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Post by: TAC on December 20, 2021, 06:47:06 PM
Update.. moving right along. I think I have 7 writeups done. Hoping for Thursday. We'll see.

I also want to mention again that the lead guitar playing is outstanding. Is SW his own lead guitarist?
If so, what is his guitar of choice?
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Post by: 425 on December 20, 2021, 06:49:28 PM
SW is the lead guitarist on the Porcupine Tree material, but not on the solo material. That's Guthrie Govan on the solo albums you got stuff from.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: KevShmev on December 20, 2021, 06:51:58 PM
Update.. moving right along. I think I have 7 writeups done. Hoping for Thursday. We'll see.

I also want to mention again that the lead guitar playing is outstanding. Is SW his own lead guitarist?
If so, what is his guitar of choice?

In Porcupine Tree, yes, Wilson is always the lead guitarist in the studio (and usually live as well).

In his solo career, it has been more varied.  I believe he was the lead guitarist on the first two solo albums, but Govan joined and became the lead guitarist for The Raven and Hand Cannot Erase (his 3rd and 4th solo albums).  And then he went back to being the lead guitarist most of the time on his last two studio albums.
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 20, 2021, 06:59:17 PM

If so, what is his guitar of choice?

I believe he is mainly a PRS guy. Seems to be what I have seen him most with, at least in the PT days.
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Post by: TAC on December 20, 2021, 07:00:53 PM
Cool. Thank you, all.

Not familiar with PRS.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on December 20, 2021, 07:04:23 PM
To me, PRS>>>>Fender>>Gibson.
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 20, 2021, 07:09:05 PM
Lifeson went hard into PRS in the 90's. Watch any video from Rush from then on he is mostly playing a PRS. He is still endorsed by them to this day.
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Post by: TAC on December 20, 2021, 07:16:43 PM
Cool. Never heard of them, but I'm not a guitarist. But I was interested after hearing the lead tones.

To me, PRS>>>>Fender>>Gibson.

I don't know. Gary Moore played a Gibson Les Paul, and it's the best I've ever heard a guitar sound.
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Post by: Lonk on December 20, 2021, 07:25:29 PM
Cool. Never heard of them, but I'm not a guitarist. But I was interested after hearing the lead tones.

To me, PRS>>>>Fender>>Gibson.

I don't know. Gary Moore played a Gibson Les Paul, and it's the best I've ever heard a guitar sound.

I'll give that to Les Paul, they sound great. But that's about the only thing they have going for them. Those guitars are heavy and uncomfortable.
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Post by: romdrums on December 20, 2021, 07:25:42 PM
Also, “publicly scoff” is probably too strong a phrase, but I’m pretty sure SW has said that he didn’t care for DT’s style of music.

Yes, DT is one of the many bands and "traditional" prog is one of the many directions SW doesn't care for. You could fill books with the bands/artists he doesn't like/don't care for/don't find relevant. And while that is his decision, because it's his taste, makes you wonder why he has to tell everyone about it.

Kinda like a vegan.  :D
Or people who do crossfit.  :lol

If you’re a vegan who does CrossFit, what do you tell people first?  :D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on December 20, 2021, 07:28:28 PM
Cool. Never heard of them, but I'm not a guitarist. But I was interested after hearing the lead tones.

To me, PRS>>>>Fender>>Gibson.

I don't know. Gary Moore played a Gibson Les Paul, and it's the best I've ever heard a guitar sound.

The Les Paul has the history and mystique, and an iconic list of players, but PRS guitars are better built, more consistent, and are generally more versatile.  They were designed to split the difference between a Les Paul and a Strat, and I think they nailed it.
I'll give that to Les Paul, they sound great. But that's about the only thing they have going for them. Those guitars are heavy and uncomfortable.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on December 20, 2021, 11:25:13 PM
Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 21, 2021, 12:45:20 AM
Update.. moving right along. I think I have 7 writeups done. Hoping for Thursday. We'll see.

I also want to mention again that the lead guitar playing is outstanding. Is SW his own lead guitarist?
If so, what is his guitar of choice?

I think where SW really shines is in finding the right sounds. His playing and his music in general is less about technical prowess and more about textures, soundscapes and atmosphere.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 21, 2021, 04:11:25 AM
Cool. Never heard of them, but I'm not a guitarist. But I was interested after hearing the lead tones.

To me, PRS>>>>Fender>>Gibson.

I don't know. Gary Moore played a Gibson Les Paul, and it's the best I've ever heard a guitar sound.

That's because it was Gary Moore behind it.  He'd make a $200 guitar sound better than a $2000 guitar played by anyone else.
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Post by: TAC on December 21, 2021, 04:42:13 AM
Cool. Never heard of them, but I'm not a guitarist. But I was interested after hearing the lead tones.

To me, PRS>>>>Fender>>Gibson.

I don't know. Gary Moore played a Gibson Les Paul, and it's the best I've ever heard a guitar sound.

That's because it was Gary Moore behind it.  He'd make a $200 guitar sound better than a $2000 guitar played by anyone else.

I’m listening to After Hours RIGHT NOW at work!!

Cold Day In Hell :metal
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 21, 2021, 05:33:01 AM
And that's the difference between Gary Moore and me.

He can make a shit guitar sound good and I can make a good guitar sound like shit.  ;D
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Post by: TAC on December 21, 2021, 07:03:39 AM
And that's the difference between Gary Moore and me.

He can make a shit guitar sound good and I can make a good guitar sound like shit.  ;D

 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lowdz on December 21, 2021, 07:48:41 AM
Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.

Indeed.
His stuff with the Aristocrats is incredible.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 21, 2021, 12:29:06 PM
 :corn

all i want for christmas is wilsults
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Post by: wolfking on December 21, 2021, 12:42:34 PM
And that's the difference between Gary Moore and me.

He can make a shit guitar sound good and I can make a good guitar sound like shit.  ;D

 :lol
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Post by: HOF on December 21, 2021, 01:08:06 PM
:corn

all i want for christmas is wilsults

That would mean I have to listen to Mastadon for Christmas though.
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 21, 2021, 02:22:22 PM
:corn

all i want for christmas is wilsults

That would mean I have to listen to Mastadon for Christmas though.

Maybe you should listen to Mastodon instead!

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/01/44/c7/0144c7d1654207042865098f388aea6d.png)
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 21, 2021, 02:27:20 PM
:corn

all i want for christmas is wilsults

That would mean I have to listen to Mastadon for Christmas though.

Maybe you should listen to Mastodon instead!

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/01/44/c7/0144c7d1654207042865098f388aea6d.png)

Yeah, no EDM in this thread. That Mastadon guy changed his name so as to not be confused with good music.  :lol

https://edm.com/news/mastadon-rebrands-marauda
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Post by: HOF on December 21, 2021, 02:42:49 PM
Oh, Mast-o-don.
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Post by: TAC on December 21, 2021, 03:00:50 PM
Oh, Mast-o-don.

Actually..

Ah, Mast-o-don.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 21, 2021, 03:32:58 PM
Not to also be confused with Mastedon.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on December 21, 2021, 04:03:39 PM
Not to also be confused with Mastedon.

Master Don.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 21, 2021, 08:05:01 PM
Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.

Lowdz mentioned The Aristocrats. Anything else that he is on?






:corn

all i want for christmas is wilsults

The Lovely Mrs TAC informed me this morning that she is taking the rest of the week off. There goes my afternoon listening! :yeahright   :lol

BUT, I'm 17 writeups down and 7 to go.





Here's what I would say about the results.. I've said it before, but a 7.5 means I LIKE IT. I think we're going to be really bunched up between 7.5 and 8.0. Pretty sure there's no 8.5's at this point. There might be a song or three below 7.5, but I have generally liked pretty much everything I've heard.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 21, 2021, 08:08:46 PM
Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.

Lowdz mentioned The Aristocrats. Anything else that he is on?

He was in Asia for the Aura and Silent Nation albums. He also played some guitar on Ayreon's The Source album.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 21, 2021, 08:10:09 PM
Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.

Lowdz mentioned The Aristocrats. Anything else that he is on?

He was in Asia for the Aura and Silent Nation albums. He also played some guitar on Ayreon's The Source album.

Are those Asia albums any good? What are the lineups on those albums?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: LudwigVan on December 21, 2021, 08:27:36 PM
Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.

Lowdz mentioned The Aristocrats. Anything else that he is on?

He was in Asia for the Aura and Silent Nation albums. He also played some guitar on Ayreon's The Source album.

Are those Asia albums any good? What are the lineups on those albums?

If you were not inclined to like Asia to begin with, then I can't see how you'd like those two albums. They don't even have John Wetton on vocals, since he was replaced by a dude named John Payne. I rather enjoy Aura and Silent Nation, but they sorta have this generic 90's soft rock keyboard/watery new-age-y sound with some touches of prog here and there. I remember Stads saying that he absolutely hated this iteration of Asia.
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Post by: TAC on December 21, 2021, 08:32:04 PM
That doesn't sound very promising. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 21, 2021, 10:36:06 PM
Watching Guthrie guitar improvs and lessons on YouTube is a satisfying and demoralising experience.  Dude is incredible.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Stadler on December 22, 2021, 06:59:52 AM
Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.

Lowdz mentioned The Aristocrats. Anything else that he is on?

He was in Asia for the Aura and Silent Nation albums. He also played some guitar on Ayreon's The Source album.

Are those Asia albums any good? What are the lineups on those albums?

For what it's worth, the first Asia album is iconic in my view, and I'm a big fan of the second one as well.   I saw the John Payne Asia live at Toad's Place (Steve Howe toured with them and played like half the set) and it's one of the worst concerts I've ever seen.   I don't own - nor will I ever own - any of the NON-John Wetton Asia albums.   I know that's harsh, and others have more patience or forgiveness for the John Payne Asia, but to me, that iteration does not exist.   
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on December 22, 2021, 07:12:54 AM
Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.

Lowdz mentioned The Aristocrats. Anything else that he is on?

He was in Asia for the Aura and Silent Nation albums. He also played some guitar on Ayreon's The Source album.

Are those Asia albums any good? What are the lineups on those albums?

For what it's worth, the first Asia album is iconic in my view, and I'm a big fan of the second one as well.   I saw the John Payne Asia live at Toad's Place (Steve Howe toured with them and played like half the set) and it's one of the worst concerts I've ever seen.   I don't own - nor will I ever own - any of the NON-John Wetton Asia albums.   I know that's harsh, and others have more patience or forgiveness for the John Payne Asia, but to me, that iteration does not exist.

For Christmas one year, my brother found a bootleg version of an Asia concert on DVD with John Payne, Geoff Downes, Chris Slade on drums, and Guthrie on guitar.  It was awful.  John Payne trying to sing Wetton-era songs was super cringe-y.  I think I ended up either throwing it away or giving it back to my brother. 
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Post by: TAC on December 22, 2021, 08:22:38 AM
So apparently after John Wetton leaves, Asia is pretty Paynefull to listen to?
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Post by: Stadler on December 22, 2021, 08:30:27 AM
 :facepalm:
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Post by: romdrums on December 22, 2021, 08:37:58 AM
So apparently after John Wetton leaves, Asia is pretty Paynefull to listen to?

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Post by: King Postwhore on December 22, 2021, 09:20:07 AM
So apparently after John Wetton leaves, Asia is pretty Paynefull to listen to?

Dad jokes.  Like a boss.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 22, 2021, 09:22:23 AM
So apparently after John Wetton leaves, Asia is pretty Paynefull to listen to?

Dad jokes.  Like a boss.

All day long! My poor kids.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on December 22, 2021, 09:27:46 AM
I'm going to be the maverick and say that Silent Nation is the only Asia album I know that interested me much. :P
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 22, 2021, 09:31:40 AM
So apparently after John Wetton leaves, Asia is pretty Paynefull to listen to?

Dad jokes.  Like a boss.

 :lol

I'm going to be the maverick and say that Silent Nation is the only Asia album I know that interested me much. :P

When it was just Downes, my interest waned as well like Stads.  I did get to see the ordiginal lineup on the Alpha tour in 1983.  I was 15.  Chris DeBurg opened up.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 22, 2021, 12:10:59 PM
I'm going to be the maverick and say that Silent Nation is the only Asia album I know that interested me much. :P

I prefer the silent album.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 22, 2021, 12:59:52 PM
What is Heartattack By A Layby about?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 22, 2021, 01:01:09 PM
What is Heartattack By A Layby about?

A heart attack in a layby.
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Post by: TAC on December 22, 2021, 01:01:44 PM
What is Heartattack By A Layby about?

A heart attack in a layby.

WTF's a layby?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 22, 2021, 01:02:06 PM
What is Heartattack By A Layby about?

A heart attack in a layby.

WTF's a layby?

It's where you have heart attacks
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 22, 2021, 01:02:46 PM
lay-by
/ˈlā ˌbī/
noun
noun: layby

    British
    an area at the side of a road where vehicles may pull off the road and stop; a rest stop.
        a mooring area along a canal, river, or harbor.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 22, 2021, 01:04:51 PM
That's weird. I just looked it up too. That's not what my dictionary says:

Quote
lay-by
/ˈlā ˌbī/
noun
noun: layby

    British
    an area at the side of a road where Buddy's and Cyril's bodies will be found.

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 22, 2021, 01:07:34 PM
That's weird. I just looked it up too. That's not what my dictionary says:

Quote
lay-by
/ˈlā ˌbī/
noun
noun: layby

    British
    an area at the side of a road where Buddy's and Cyril's bodies will be found.

Tire tracks fresh on the ground, where we will be found
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 22, 2021, 01:10:19 PM
It's a place to dig Tim out of his time capsule.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 22, 2021, 01:11:15 PM
no my body is buried underneath the floorboards
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on December 22, 2021, 01:11:59 PM
So how is it going with the write ups and scores? how many sub 7 scores are there?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 22, 2021, 01:54:53 PM
So how is it going with the write ups and scores? how many sub 7 scores are there?

I have 6 songs left to listen again/writeup.

Then I'll rank them, and then I'll score them. I have a song in mind that I will score a 7.5. That means that I like it. So the other songs scores will be rated against that one. There's nothing that will be graded under a 7. There may be 2 or 3 under the 7.5, but most of them are at 7.5 or over.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 22, 2021, 05:49:42 PM
Score Distribution:

8.0-8.5...  8 songs
7.5-7.9...11 songs
7.1-7.4...5 songs

There are TWO 8.5's.


And let me apologize now if any of you are unhappy with your scores. Porcupine Tree feels like a band that the more you spend time with, the better they get. Me? I had basically 5 listens to each song, so I won't have the attachment that some of you have.  I'd probably be like WTF if I sent Hallowed Be Thy Name in an Iron Maiden round and it scored poorly.

But suffice to say that I actually LIKED pretty much everything that was sent. You guys have given me a new appreciation for sure. I'll definitely do some exploring in the upcoming year. So..thank you.
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Post by: wolfking on December 22, 2021, 06:02:26 PM
You're all good bro.  I won't loose any sleep.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 22, 2021, 06:11:13 PM
But suffice to say that I actually LIKED pretty much everything that was sent. You guys have given me a new appreciation for sure.

Okay, so now we know it really is stockholm syndrome.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 22, 2021, 06:12:12 PM
You're all good bro.  I won't loose any sleep.

I wasn't worried about you! :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 22, 2021, 06:28:32 PM
I'll kill you!


No, I'll mock you like we're brothers still. Lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 22, 2021, 06:30:04 PM
I'll kill you!


No, I'll mock you like we're brothers still. Lol

Yeah, but after you kill me.

KingMEHgland
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 22, 2021, 06:32:18 PM
You're all good bro.  I won't loose any sleep.

I wasn't worried about you! :lol

  :rollin

Fair play.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 22, 2021, 06:55:16 PM
I'll kill you!


No, I'll mock you like we're brothers still. Lol

Yeah, but after you kill me.

KingMEHgland

Dead to me.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 22, 2021, 06:58:05 PM
I'll kill you!


No, I'll mock you like we're brothers still. Lol

Yeah, but after you kill me.

KingMEHgland

Dead to me.


 :lol :P :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 22, 2021, 07:11:22 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on December 22, 2021, 11:17:58 PM
But suffice to say that I actually LIKED pretty much everything that was sent. You guys have given me a new appreciation for sure.

Okay, so now we know it really is stockholm syndrome.

 :lol no kidding!

Can't speak for anyone else, my own experience with roulettes is that I do tend to have a mindset of searching for things to like, and end up enjoying almost everything I get to some degree. But that doesn't necessarily translate to wanting to actually spend more time listening to those artists in the future.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2021, 04:27:52 AM
But suffice to say that I actually LIKED pretty much everything that was sent. You guys have given me a new appreciation for sure.

Okay, so now we know it really is stockholm syndrome.

 :lol no kidding!

Can't speak for anyone else, my own experience with roulettes is that I do tend to have a mindset of searching for things to like, and end up enjoying almost everything I get to some degree. But that doesn't necessarily translate to wanting to actually spend more time listening to those artists in the future.

There's always exceptions but this is generally me with roulette also.

I hope you ended up getting my PM too.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Stadler on December 23, 2021, 08:36:35 AM
lay-by
/ˈlā ˌbī/
noun
noun: layby

    British
    an area at the side of a road where vehicles may pull off the road and stop; a rest stop.
        a mooring area along a canal, river, or harbor.

Dude.  Wow.   I didn't pick up on that at all! [DARK SUBJECT MATTER ALERT!  DARK SUBJECT MATTER ALERT!] My friend Mary I posted about in the Depressed/Angry thread (in response to Harmony's post) actually died of a heartattack in a layby.   It was a commuter parking lot, to be precise, but it was a sort of "rest stop" for I-91.  That's messed up!

But I still don't like Steven Wilson's music.  :)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Stadler on December 23, 2021, 08:38:05 AM
So how is it going with the write ups and scores? how many sub 7 scores are there?

I have 6 songs left to listen again/writeup.

Then I'll rank them, and then I'll score them. I have a song in mind that I will score a 7.5. That means that I like it. So the other songs scores will be rated against that one. There's nothing that will be graded under a 7. Stadler's will be There may be 2 or 3 under the 7.5, but most of them are at 7.5 or over.

Fixed, for accuracy.  ;) :) :)  :) :):)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Stadler on December 23, 2021, 08:40:03 AM
But suffice to say that I actually LIKED pretty much everything that was sent. You guys have given me a new appreciation for sure.

Okay, so now we know it really is stockholm syndrome.

 :lol no kidding!

Can't speak for anyone else, my own experience with roulettes is that I do tend to have a mindset of searching for things to like, and end up enjoying almost everything I get to some degree. But that doesn't necessarily translate to wanting to actually spend more time listening to those artists in the future.

That's me too.  I WANT to like most of the music I listen to, but sometimes it's just not possible.  (That, and I feel bad slagging off something one of my friends values).
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 23, 2021, 08:55:33 AM
lay-by
/ˈlā ˌbī/
noun
noun: layby

    British
    an area at the side of a road where vehicles may pull off the road and stop; a rest stop.
        a mooring area along a canal, river, or harbor.

Dude.  Wow.   I didn't pick up on that at all! [DARK SUBJECT MATTER ALERT!  DARK SUBJECT MATTER ALERT!] My friend Mary I posted about in the Depressed/Angry thread (in response to Harmony's post) actually died of a heartattack in a layby.   It was a commuter parking lot, to be precise, but it was a sort of "rest stop" for I-91.  That's messed up!

But I still don't like Steven Wilson's music.  :)

Everyone has faults Stads.  This is yours.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 09:02:07 AM
So how is it going with the write ups and scores? how many sub 7 scores are there?

I have 6 songs left to listen again/writeup.

Then I'll rank them, and then I'll score them. I have a song in mind that I will score a 7.5. That means that I like it. So the other songs scores will be rated against that one. There's nothing that will be graded under a 7. Stadler's will be There may be 2 or 3 under the 7.5, but most of them are at 7.5 or over.

Fixed, for accuracy.  ;) :) :)  :) :):)

Just one of them I think.  ;D

I have a fairly in depth writeup on that one too.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on December 23, 2021, 09:15:18 AM
So how is it going with the write ups and scores? how many sub 7 scores are there?

I have 6 songs left to listen again/writeup.

Then I'll rank them, and then I'll score them. I have a song in mind that I will score a 7.5. That means that I like it. So the other songs scores will be rated against that one. There's nothing that will be graded under a 7. Stadler's will be There may be 2 or 3 under the 7.5, but most of them are at 7.5 or over.

Fixed, for accuracy.  ;) :) :)  :) :):)

Just one of them I think.  ;D

I have a fairly in depth writeup on that one too.

I didn't know Men of Wood had that much depth to it.  :)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 09:17:48 AM
Why would you think it was that one? He sent TWO songs.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 09:39:50 AM
Results in a couple  of hours when I get home from work. Hopefully by 2:30 Boston time.

There has been a small shuffle in in both the Top 3 and the Bottom 3.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on December 23, 2021, 09:41:35 AM
I outscored everyone by around 2 points and am now in the Top 3. Right?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 23, 2021, 09:44:22 AM
Trains is the best Porcupine Tree song but it certainly isn't for everyone and I would not expect TAC to fall under the group of people it is for, which is why I didn't send it

lay-by
/ˈlā ˌbī/
noun
noun: layby

    British
    an area at the side of a road where vehicles may pull off the road and stop; a rest stop.
        a mooring area along a canal, river, or harbor.

Dude.  Wow.   I didn't pick up on that at all! [DARK SUBJECT MATTER ALERT!  DARK SUBJECT MATTER ALERT!] My friend Mary I posted about in the Depressed/Angry thread (in response to Harmony's post) actually died of a heartattack in a layby.   It was a commuter parking lot, to be precise, but it was a sort of "rest stop" for I-91.  That's messed up!

But I still don't like Steven Wilson's music.  :)

That's awful, I'm sorry to hear about that.

What makes Heartattack In A Layby so ungodly depressing for me isn't that it's about a man dying from a heart attack - it's that if you read the lyrics, it's clear that he doesn't realize he's dying. The ending of the song isn't him accepting his fate, it's him thinking about how he'll return home to his wife who he just had an argument with and apologize to her. "We'll grow old together". Couple that with the music and... oof. It might not be the most emotionally authentic song ever, but it makes up for that with flawless calculation and execution to deliberately make me feel as shitty as possible. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on December 23, 2021, 09:59:20 AM
Trains is the best Porcupine Tree song but it certainly isn't for everyone and I would not expect TAC to fall under the group of people it is for, which is why I didn't send it

lay-by
/ˈlā ˌbī/
noun
noun: layby

    British
    an area at the side of a road where vehicles may pull off the road and stop; a rest stop.
        a mooring area along a canal, river, or harbor.

Dude.  Wow.   I didn't pick up on that at all! [DARK SUBJECT MATTER ALERT!  DARK SUBJECT MATTER ALERT!] My friend Mary I posted about in the Depressed/Angry thread (in response to Harmony's post) actually died of a heartattack in a layby.   It was a commuter parking lot, to be precise, but it was a sort of "rest stop" for I-91.  That's messed up!

But I still don't like Steven Wilson's music.  :)

That's awful, I'm sorry to hear about that.

What makes Heartattack In A Layby so ungodly depressing for me isn't that it's about a man dying from a heart attack - it's that if you read the lyrics, it's clear that he doesn't realize he's dying. The ending of the song isn't him accepting his fate, it's him thinking about how he'll return home to his wife who he just had an argument with and apologize to her. "We'll grow old together". Couple that with the music and... oof. It might not be the most emotionally authentic song ever, but it makes up for that with flawless calculation and execution to deliberately make me feel as shitty as possible. :lol

The mix on that song is amazing.  There are a lot of little details in there that really add to the song's atmosphere.  The intertwining vocal lines at the end are brilliant.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 10:10:01 AM
Trains is the best PT song?

I feel like I’ve ranked like 8-10 above it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on December 23, 2021, 10:20:31 AM
Trains is the best PT song?

I feel like I’ve ranked like 8-10 above it.
boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on December 23, 2021, 10:25:15 AM
Trains is also probably my favorite PT song.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on December 23, 2021, 10:40:42 AM
Trains is the best PT song?

I feel like I’ve ranked like 8-10 above it.

I'm a PT fan and while I like the song, I don't think it makes my top 20.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on December 23, 2021, 10:44:13 AM
Trains is the best PT song?

No, it's not. Not even close to the best from the album it's on.

:biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 23, 2021, 10:50:50 AM
Some people will tell you that Dark Matter is the best Porcupine Tree song and Luminol is the best Steven Wilson song.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on December 23, 2021, 10:54:50 AM
Trains is the best PT song for sure. I don't listen to the band very much anymore, but I'm always happy to listen to that one.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: LudwigVan on December 23, 2021, 11:00:59 AM
I love me some Trains.

As for Heart Attack in a Layby, I always got the sense that Steven Wilson took snippets of random news stories/tragedies and extrapolated them out into his own personal re-telling of it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 23, 2021, 11:08:10 AM
I love me some Trains.

As for Heart Attack in a Layby, I always got the sense that Steven Wilson took snippets of random news stories/tragedies and extrapolated them out into his own personal re-telling of it.
i mean this is literally the entirety of Hand Cannot Erase so yeah
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on December 23, 2021, 11:25:35 AM
Trains is the best PT song for sure. I don't listen to the band very much anymore, but I'm always happy to listen to that one.
I don't consider it the best one, but I do love it and just love the feeling of nostalgia it explores. Such a warm and lovely song, and a nice contrast from... well pretty much everything else PT has done. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on December 23, 2021, 11:26:51 AM
For those of you who rate Trains highly, when did you become a fan of the band?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: LudwigVan on December 23, 2021, 11:32:17 AM
Became a fan in-between Deadwing and FOABP, so around 2005-'06.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on December 23, 2021, 11:35:36 AM
For those of you who rate Trains highly, when did you become a fan of the band?

In Absentia was the first thing I got from PT back when it was released, so it was my introduction to PT/SW.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: ariich on December 23, 2021, 11:41:04 AM
Became a fan in-between Deadwing and FOABP, so around 2005-'06.
Yeah probably about the same.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on December 23, 2021, 11:42:50 AM
Became a fan in-between Deadwing and FOABP, so around 2005-'06.

For those of you who rate Trains highly, when did you become a fan of the band?

In Absentia was the first thing I got from PT back when it was released, so it was my introduction to PT/SW.

Became a fan in-between Deadwing and FOABP, so around 2005-'06.
Yeah probably about the same.

That makes sense.  I got into PT back in 1995 when The Sky Moves Sideways came out.  Signify was my favorite up until they released In Absentia.  I didn't really like the change from Signify to Stupid Dream, and I skipped Lightbulb Sun when it first came out.  Both of those albums have grown on me quite a bit since then.  In Absentia got me back into the band in a big way.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on December 23, 2021, 12:08:57 PM
Trains is the best PT song for sure. I don't listen to the band very much anymore, but I'm always happy to listen to that one.
I don't consider it the best one, but I do love it and just love the feeling of nostalgia it explores. Such a warm and lovely song, and a nice contrast from... well pretty much everything else PT has done. :lol

I genuinely do think it's the best one, but yeah, that warmer feeling is another part of why I'm more inclined to listen to it than the others.

For those of you who rate Trains highly, when did you become a fan of the band?

2013ish.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 12:14:13 PM
Scorecupine Tree Wilsults!


Romdrums

So Called Friend...7.5

This is actually a cool song. The druns are really powerful. The pre chorus, or is it post chorus, is played to a nice beefy riff. And I like the chorus as well. Excellent vocal in that. Overall, a nice to the point submission that I really liked.

Sever...7.7

The first thing that jumps out at me is the drum pattern. Not difficult, but inviting. The drums are really the best part of the song. They have a great sound, especially the hi-hat. When the song intensifies a bit about four and a half minutes in, the drums are fantastic. I don’t know that this song does anything spectacular, but it’s quite trance-like and really cool.
7.5+7.7=15.2/2=7.6



Cyril

Luminol (SW)...8.3

I like the beginning to this. Nice audible bass, and the drumming reminds me of Stewart Copeland. Cool keyboard solo about three minutes in. The middle section is pretty nice. I like the piano solo. The ending is interesting. I like that it rocks. Solid track for sure.

Dark Matter...8.5

Another mellowish tune that keeps a really nice pace. It’s mellow, but not boring. Has a pink Floyd feel to it, with a hint of Led Zeppelin. I like the keyboard around 5:20 as it introduces the solo section. This is a great solo too. Really strong notes. Excellent song. I love it!
8.3+8.5=16.8/2=8.4


Vmadera

Fear Of A Blank Planet...8.4

The acoustic intro feels like a slower version of the one in Flotsam & Jetsam’s Final Step. X-Box is a God to me? WTF?? Did he just say that? I like the pace to this, and the chorus is catchy. I like the John Paul Jones keyboards at 6:10. Overall, a really strong song, but damn, these lyrics blow.

The Sound Of Musak...7.5

So I have definitely heard this before. It may have been on the mix CD that I got 15 years ago. The chorus sounds familiar. I don’t love the verses, but the chorus is nice and the song is more than pleasant.
8.4+7.5=15.9/2=7.95



Buddy

Strip The Soul...7.2

This song is fairly unexciting for the first three minutes. I like the jammy RHCP part at 3:38, and I love the short drum flourish to end that section at 5:08.This ends real heavy, but unfortunately, this song is a miss for me.

Anesthetize...7.9

So I like the first part a lot. Keeps a steady pace, and while it plays it safe, I’m still quite engaged. Culminating an Alex Lifeson solo that’s cool to hear. The song picks up for the Pills section. Nice hi-hat sound in the verse part of this section. The chorus is good too. I assume the Surfer section is unconsciousness. More John Paul Jones styled keyboards in this part. This last part has grown on me since the first listen. I can’t say I love it, but I think I understand it. This is a long song, but it’s generally enjoyable throughout. It never really drags until the Surfer part, but I guess they were going for that.
7.2+7.9=15.1/2=7.55



Wolfking

Don’t Hate Me...8.4

This is a pretty chill song. If I ignore the lyrics, this is excellent. I love the chorus, and SW’s voice is quite interesting. Really love the note choices in the chorus’ vocals. But goddamn, fucking gag me with these words. I’ll fucking hate you if I want, pussy. This solo section is cool. Is that a flute? Cool sax too. Excellent drumming here as well. About the 5 minute mark on for this spacey section, the bass reminds me of Fields Of The Nephilim. Last Exit For The Lost or something. Another chorus and nice outro solo to close it out. Excellent tune.

The Sound Of Muzak...7.5

So I have definitely heard this before. It may have been on the mix CD that I got 15 years ago. The chorus sounds familiar. I don’t love the verses, but the chorus is nice and the song is more than pleasant.
8.4+7.5=15.9/2=7.95


Professor

Russia On Ice...8.5

The very beginning reminds me of The Rain Song.  Big time Pink Floyd going on here. The solo that starts right before the 5 minute mark is gloriously paced. I can do without the electronic effects as the song picks up. I like that it stays instrumental in the heavy section. Rides out with some soft noise. This is really good music to chill too. I would’ve loved this when I was still getting baked. Heck, I love it now!

Anesthetize...7.9

So I like the first part a lot. Keeps a steady pace, and while it plays it safe, I’m still quite engaged. Culminating an Alex Lifeson solo that’s cool to hear. The song picks up for the Pills section. Nice hi-hat sound in the verse part of this section. The chorus is good too. I assume the Surfer section is unconsciousness. More John Paul Jones styled keyboards in this part. This last part has grown on me since the first listen. I can’t say I love it, but I think I understand it. This is a long song, but it’s generally enjoyable throughout. It never really drags until the Surfer part, but I guess they were going for that.
8.5+7.9=16.4/2=8.2


Puppies

Anesthetize (Live)...7.9

This seems to stay pretty consistent with the studio version, right to the run time. Kudos for them for playing the whole song live, but not kudos for you for making me listen to the live version when like ten other people sent me the studio version.

Hatesong (Live)...8.0

I didn’t check out the studio version so I have no point of reference. But this song is heavy and beefy in spots. The “yeah yeah yeah”s are awful though. But instrumentally, they are tight as hell. I feel like if I get anything by PT, it’d be a live album.
8.0+7.9=15.9/2=7.95



HOF

Lightbulb Sun...8.4

Is this Jimmy Page on guest guitar? Sound like him in the acoustic intro and the chorus riff.  I like this song a lot. The verse is cool enough. Has an Alex Lifeson style solo at 2:25ish. I love the solo again at 4:00. Great climax. The song chills in the end, which is a nice touch. At five and a half minutes, it’s on point, but I could’ve gone another minute easy of that second solo. Excellent tune.

The Sound Of Muzak...7.5

So I have definitely heard this before. It may have been on the mix CD that I got 15 years ago. The chorus sounds familiar. I don’t love the verses, but the chorus is nice and the song is more than pleasant.
8.4+7.5=15.9/2=7.95



Lonestar

Luminol (SW)...8.3

I like the beginning to this. Nice audible bass, and the drumming reminds me of Stewart Copeland. Cool keyboard solo about three minutes in. The middle section is pretty nice. I like the piano solo. The ending is interesting. I like that it rocks. Solid track for sure.

Anesthetize...7.9

So I like the first part a lot. Keeps a steady pace, and while it plays it safe, I’m still quite engaged. Culminating an Alex Lifeson solo that’s cool to hear. The song picks up for the Pills section. Nice hi-hat sound in the verse part of this section. The chorus is good too. I assume the Surfer section is unconsciousness. More John Paul Jones styled keyboards in this part. This last part has grown on me since the first listen. I can’t say I love it, but I think I understand it. This is a long song, but it’s generally enjoyable throughout. It never really drags until the Surfer part, but I guess they were going for that.
8.3+7.9=16.2/2=8.1
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 12:14:31 PM
Ariich

Trains...7.7

I love the acoustic solo at 2:15. I also love the confident drumming in the last minute. This is a really solid song that doesn’t overstay it’s welcome. It’s powerful in spots without being fake heavy. Very nice.

Ancestral (SW)...8.2

This electric beginning has me apprehensive. The vocal lines are excellent though. I love the Gary Moore solo at 4:02. Amazing familiarity. Instrumentally, it’s really cool till about the 8:10 mark. Not sure I’m crazy about the next part, Seems odd. Better with guitar. But then it’s instrumental all the way cleverly working its way right to a really great ending. This was a huge grower for me. Still don’t love the first couple of minutes, but this song finishes strong.
7.7+8.2=15.9/2=7.95



Kwyjibo

Even Less...7.7

So this is a nice enough song. It actually grew over the listens. It has a nice and steady pace to it. It's not wicked exciting but it has some power to it. The solo at 5:20 sounds amazing. Good song.

Gravity Eyelids...7.1

Can I start this song at 3:50? And even then, just for a couple of minutes. I have to say that I did not care for this song. At all.
7.7+7.1=14.8/2=7.4



425

Trains...7.7

I love the acoustic solo at 2:15. I also love the confident drumming in the last minute. This is a really solid song that doesn’t overstay it’s welcome. It’s powerful in spots without being fake heavy. Very nice.

Luminol (SW)...8.3

I like the beginning to this. Nice audible bass, and the drumming reminds me of Stewart Copeland. Cool keyboard solo about three minutes in. The middle section is pretty nice. I like the piano solo. The ending is interesting. I like that it rocks. Solid track for sure.
7.7+8.3=16.0/2=8.0



Evermind

Heartattack In A Layby...7.8

This has a really eerie and cool opening. Nice pacing to this. Yes, it is slow and mellow, but it never dropped me. I feel like it’s missing a guitar solo. Still, it’s quite moving.

Ancestral (SW)...8.2

This electric beginning has me apprehensive. The vocal lines are excellent though. I love the Gary Moore solo at 4:02. Amazing familiarity. Instrumentally, it’s really cool till about the 8:10 mark. Not sure I’m crazy about the next part, Seems odd. Better with guitar. But then it’s instrumental all the way cleverly working its way right to a really great ending. This was a huge grower for me. Still don’t love the first couple of minutes, but this song finishes strong.
7.8+8.2=16.0/2=8.0


Kingshmegland

Time Flies...7.8

The first vocal section is nice enough. But this song goes next level with a cool acoustic part at 3:55. Eerie and moving. The keys join around 4:35 perfectly. Really like this Pink Floyd feel. It’s 4 minutes of musical bliss. The vocals return to close out the song similar to the first section. Nice outro too. I would say that at eleven and a half minutes is a bit long, but it does have nice balance, and the middle section is not rushed, so there’s that. That mid section saves this song.

Hand Cannot Erase (SW)...7.2

This reminds me of I Walk Beside You but not as good. Even Structural Disorders Architect Of The Skies. Has a Rush feel so I can see why you’d like it, but this just isn’t a song that gets me going.
7.2+7.8=15.0/2=7.5



Stadler

Men Of Wood...7.3

Stadler?? What is this?

Trains...7.7

I love the acoustic solo at 2:15. I also love the confident drumming in the last minute. This is a really solid song that doesn’t overstay it’s welcome. It’s powerful in spots without being fake heavy. Very nice.
7.3+7.7=15.0/2=7.5



LudwigVan

Anesthetize...7.9

So I like the first part a lot. Keeps a steady pace, and while it plays it safe, I’m still quite engaged. Culminating an Alex Lifeson solo that’s cool to hear. The song picks up for the Pills section. Nice hi-hat sound in the verse part of this section. The chorus is good too. I assume the Surfer section is unconsciousness. More John Paul Jones styled keyboards in this part. This last part has grown on me since the first listen. I can’t say I love it, but I think I understand it. This is a long song, but it’s generally enjoyable throughout. It never really drags until the Surfer part, but I guess they were going for that.

Normal...7.6

This is a nice song, even a bit understated. It doesn’t jump out at me and I think there’s better songs here. There’s not a lot to point to. I do like the acoustic guitar at 5:42. But overall, fairly unremarkable.
7.9+7.6=15.5/2=7.75



Elite

Dislocation Day...7.4

No sure how I feel about this song. It really doesn’t do anything.

Synesthesia...7.5

Sounds like Alex Lifeson at 1:45. And starting at 3:07, the main instrumental/guitar solo section starts and it’s pretty good. The rhythm underneath never changes throughout the whole song. It’s not a song I dislike, but I would never use this to show PT’s strength as a band.
7.4+7.5=14.9/2=7.45
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 12:15:17 PM
Round 7 Results!


Cyril...8.40
Professor...8.20
Lonestar...8.10
425...8.00
Evermind...8.00
Vmadera...7.95
Wolfking...7.95
Ariich...7.95
Puppies...7.95
HOF...7.95
LudwigVan...7.75
Romdrums...7.60
Buddy...7.55
Kingshmegland...7.50
Stadler...7.50
Elite...7.45
Kwyjibo...7.40




Standings!



Puppies...8.60+8.15+8.25+8.35+8.20+8.35+7.95=57.85
Cyril...7.55+8.25+7.95+8.45+8.35+8.30+8.40=57.35
Ariich...9.0+8.15+7.60+7.85+8.05+8.45+7.95=57.05
Romdrums...8.25+7.65+8.25+7.8+7.80+8.50+7.60=56.85
VMadera...8.45+7.35+7.95+8.30+8.60+8.20+7.95=56.80
Professor...8.20+7.6+7.0+8.05+8.30+8.80+8.20=56.15
LudwigVan...8.35+7.55+7.35+7.90+8.30+8.45+7.75=55.85
Wolfking...7.80+7.6+8.10+8.0+7.90+8.50+7.95=55.85
425...7.90+7.40+7.65+8.45+7.85+8.35+8.0=55.60
Kwyjibo...7.80+8.75+7.65+8.15+7.60+8.05+7.40=55.40
Kingshmegland...7.70+8.25+7.85+7.85+8.20+7.90+7.50=55.25
Buddy...7.05+8.15+7.75+8.05+8.20+8.20+7.55=54.95
Elite...7.50+7.75+7.60+7.90+7.80+8.65+7.45=54.65
Evermind...8.20+7.75+7.55+7.45+7.80+7.90+8.0=54.65
Lonestar...7.80+7.25+7.85+7.40+8.0+8.20+8.10=54.60
HOF...7.65+7.50+8.05+7.60+7.95+7.90+7.95=54.60
Stadler...8.50+7.75+7.35+7.55+7.85+7.85+7.50=54.35





Check my math!!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Elite on December 23, 2021, 12:17:33 PM
Some people will tell you that Dark Matter is the best Porcupine Tree song and Luminol is the best Steven Wilson song.

Yes to the former, no to the latter
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 12:18:05 PM
And just a reminder!
I LIKE everything 7.5 and over. This was a generally weak round though. Very little I didn't care for.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Elite on December 23, 2021, 12:18:45 PM
Well, FFS I actually should have gone with Dark Matter.

Damn.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 12:20:38 PM
Well, FFS I actually should have gone with Dark Matter.

Damn.

Everyone should've gone with Dark Matter.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Lonk on December 23, 2021, 12:21:44 PM
And of course, the other song I thought about sending (Russia on Ice) and didn't got a good score  :lol Well, I didn't expect much from this round anyways.

NOW we go to Mastodon  :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: HOF on December 23, 2021, 12:33:10 PM
Trying to figure out how I outscored Stadler this round but he passed me up in the standings... maybe I was already in last place and forgot!

Nevermind, everyone below me passed me. Stadler was already ahead. Last place baby!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 12:36:42 PM
Trying to figure out how I outscored Stadler this round but he passed me up in the standings... maybe I was already in last place and forgot!

I'll recheck my math.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: HOF on December 23, 2021, 12:38:36 PM
Trying to figure out how I outscored Stadler this round but he passed me up in the standings... maybe I was already in last place and forgot!

I'll recheck my math.

No, don't do that. I forgot it wasn't Stadler who was lower than me before.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 12:39:33 PM
Trying to figure out how I outscored Stadler this round but he passed me up in the standings... maybe I was already in last place and forgot!

I'll recheck my math.

No, don't do that. I forgot it wasn't Stadler who was lower than me before.

You're right. I screwed your score up. I fixed the standings.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: HOF on December 23, 2021, 12:42:00 PM
Trying to figure out how I outscored Stadler this round but he passed me up in the standings... maybe I was already in last place and forgot!

I'll recheck my math.

No, don't do that. I forgot it wasn't Stadler who was lower than me before.

You're right. I screwed your score up. I fixed the standings.

Hey, sometimes demanding a recount works!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 12:43:18 PM
Well, that's why I put that in the Results post.  :)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Crow on December 23, 2021, 12:45:37 PM
Some people will tell you that Dark Matter is the best Porcupine Tree song and Luminol is the best Steven Wilson song.

Yes to the former, no to the latter
this was a joke based on what i sent  :lol there's several SW songs i like more than luminol tbh

also LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOO only person to send two 8+'s this round :2metal:
time to drop the ball on mastodon, the most mid and underwhelming band of this roulette :metardica:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 12:48:16 PM
Looking ahead to the Final Round...Mastodon.

1. Initially I had their new album banned.  In case anyone missed the change IT IS ALLOWED. I will tell you that I dropped the needle on it, and it didn't really get me going, but people are listing it in the top album thread so I'm obviously overlooking something.

2. Obviously it's Christmas this weekend. I will get ZERO listening in on Friday and Saturday. I know you'll all be busy too. I just ask to have everyone in by the time I get home from work on Monday. I will listen to what I have in the meantime. I've already gotten a handful of entries. Last chance to use your Wild Card™.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: HOF on December 23, 2021, 12:49:15 PM
My goodness there are a lot of Mastodon albums. Here goes nothing...
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 23, 2021, 01:04:12 PM
Well, that was shit.  :D

But I still insist, that Gravity Eyelides can't be the worst song in that round, when it's in fact the best.  :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: 425 on December 23, 2021, 01:09:35 PM
Hey, I did pretty well, so that's cool! Glad you liked both songs. I wasn't expecting Trains to be the biggest hit of the round, but I wanted to send my two favorite SW songs, and I'm happy with a 7.7 on that one.

Now it's time to celebrate Christmas by learning what a Mastodon is, courtesy of wolfking (yes, I got your PM, sorry about not replying sooner).
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 01:13:24 PM
I'm going to LMAO if you score better than him.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on December 23, 2021, 01:13:41 PM
So how is it going with the write ups and scores? how many sub 7 scores are there?

I have 6 songs left to listen again/writeup.

Then I'll rank them, and then I'll score them. I have a song in mind that I will score a 7.5. That means that I like it. So the other songs scores will be rated against that one. There's nothing that will be graded under a 7. Stadler's will be There may be 2 or 3 under the 7.5, but most of them are at 7.5 or over.

Fixed, for accuracy.  ;) :) :)  :) :):)

Just one of them I think.  ;D

I have a fairly in depth writeup on that one too.

I didn't know Men of Wood had that much depth to it.  :)

I see I was right about your in-depth write up about Men of Wood.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 01:15:10 PM
So how is it going with the write ups and scores? how many sub 7 scores are there?

I have 6 songs left to listen again/writeup.

Then I'll rank them, and then I'll score them. I have a song in mind that I will score a 7.5. That means that I like it. So the other songs scores will be rated against that one. There's nothing that will be graded under a 7. Stadler's will be There may be 2 or 3 under the 7.5, but most of them are at 7.5 or over.

Fixed, for accuracy.  ;) :) :)  :) :):)

Just one of them I think.  ;D

I have a fairly in depth writeup on that one too.

I didn't know Men of Wood had that much depth to it.  :)

I see I was right about your in-depth write up about Men of Wood.

It was like asking someone to give you something to eat, and they hand you some gum.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: HOF on December 23, 2021, 01:20:26 PM
Found a couple I liked well enough to send. Done and done.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Lonk on December 23, 2021, 01:21:37 PM
Can't wait to see what everyone sends, this should be a fun round for TAC  :corn

I'm guessing we will see a good mix of old and new stuff.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 23, 2021, 01:54:01 PM
Emperor of sent
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2021, 02:28:06 PM
Ha!  I thought the scores for my two songs would have been reversed.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 02:33:12 PM
Ha!  I thought the scores for my two songs would have been reversed.

(https://c.tenor.com/1N-RSV0yQ0IAAAAC/gomer-surprise-gomer.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2021, 02:36:21 PM
Mastodon sent!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 03:31:13 PM
I thought Cyril would like to know that I have listened to a total of ONE song so far and I hear Thin Lizzy in it. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Crow on December 23, 2021, 03:32:56 PM
i mean to be fair mastodon has a lot of overt classic rock influence  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 03:34:03 PM
i mean to be fair mastodon has a lot of overt classic rock influence  :lol

(https://c.tenor.com/g_a_ehluKycAAAAC/minions-yay.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2021, 03:39:56 PM
I thought Cyril would like to know that I have listened to a total of ONE song so far and I hear Thin Lizzy in it. :lol

They do a pretty wicked cover of Emerald.  Troy and I think Brent are both big Lizzy fans.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2021, 03:40:52 PM
Speaking of classic stuff, Brent has a lot of nice Schenker influences in some of his playing.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 03:47:18 PM
Speaking of classic stuff, Brent has a lot of nice Schenker influences in some of his playing.

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/DeobURBiyoMRFO4GqD/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: LudwigVan on December 23, 2021, 04:14:25 PM
In my limited listens, I’ve heard bits of Hendrix, Pearl Jam and Alice In Chains.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Crow on December 23, 2021, 04:15:08 PM
which SW/PT song was most like thin lizzy?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 04:20:54 PM
In my limited listens, I’ve heard bits of Hendrix, Pearl Jam and Alice In Chains.

I just heard one song that screams 1975 Ozzy/Sabbath.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 04:30:30 PM
which SW/PT song was most like thin lizzy?

I didn't pick up any Thin Lizzy, but the solo at 4:02 of Ancestral screams Gary Moore.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2021, 06:00:43 PM
In my limited listens, I’ve heard bits of Hendrix, Pearl Jam and Alice In Chains.

I just heard one song that screams 1975 Ozzy/Sabbath.

Sabotage album hey......hmm......interesting.  :justjen
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 23, 2021, 06:07:09 PM
Wow, I would have scored better if I had just sent Trains and Russia On Ice. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Crow on December 23, 2021, 06:13:22 PM
you could've sent russia on ice and dark matter and won the round, too  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 06:14:55 PM
Russian Matter On Dark Ice.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: lonestar on December 23, 2021, 07:54:04 PM
Ahhh out of the cellar.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 23, 2021, 08:16:49 PM
I predict Colony of Birchmen and Blood and Thunder will be sent. :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Crow on December 23, 2021, 08:25:29 PM
did you send them? :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Lonk on December 23, 2021, 08:26:18 PM
Both songs I sent were from the same album, and it is post CTS
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 08:30:42 PM
did you send them? :neverusethis:

He hasn't sent anything yet.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Crow on December 23, 2021, 08:31:28 PM
puppies, i hope you send some really bad songs  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 23, 2021, 08:34:20 PM
puppies, i hope you send some really bad songs  :corn
I know, you're sneaking up on me in the standings. I knew I should have just went with Dark Matter.... :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Crow on December 23, 2021, 08:39:46 PM
send creature lives, i dare you
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 23, 2021, 08:44:18 PM
I was initially against Russia because I thought he would not like it at all. Then I said screw it as it is my favorite song from my favorite album of theirs. Then it takes the highest score. I would never have called that. I would have totally sent Luminol but had the feeling he would hate it. Shot myself on that one. Yes, that is my favorite SW solo song.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 23, 2021, 08:45:53 PM
send creature lives, i dare you
Imagine having a bunch of people describe what Mastodon sounds like and Creature Lives ends up being the first song you hear  :lol

By the way, I sent.

I also predict Hearts Alive will be sent. I almost sent it, but decided to send back to back songs from one album. Let's see if anyone can guess which songs I sent, based solely on that information  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Lonk on December 23, 2021, 09:08:15 PM
By the way, if anyone sent The Motherload, I really hope Tac watches the video to it  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 23, 2021, 09:25:05 PM
Sent my Mastotracks.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Lonk on December 23, 2021, 09:37:06 PM
Sent my Mastotracks.
Did you send asstodom?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 23, 2021, 09:43:47 PM
Sent my Mastotracks.
Did you send asstodom?

I did not.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2021, 10:10:59 PM
I'm really intrigued to see the list of songs sent.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 23, 2021, 10:14:17 PM
I'm really intrigued to see the list of songs sent.
Me too! In my opinion, you can't really go wrong with anything off the first 4 albums. :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 23, 2021, 10:36:31 PM
I'm really intrigued to see the list of songs sent.
Me too! In my opinion, you can't really go wrong with anything off the first 4 albums. :metal

Oh look it’s the thing I didn’t do

Though I would have sent stuff from CTS if it wasn’t banned.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Crow on December 23, 2021, 10:38:12 PM
if CTS wasn't banned every submission would be The Last Baron + one other song off CTS
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2021, 10:46:25 PM
I'm really intrigued to see the list of songs sent.
Me too! In my opinion, you can't really go wrong with anything off the first 4 albums. :metal

First 3 are gold.  Personally I wouldn't have sent anything from CTS anyway if it wasn't banned.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 24, 2021, 07:31:30 AM
My fear is the vocals. TAC already criticized the vocals on Hushed and Grim (which I think are their best) as not being very good. Seeing as the vocals on the early albums are rather harsh since Troy was still finding his way, Brent with the gargling vocals and no vocals at all from Brann, that just screamed no to me.

I would have sent the title track from Crack The Skye and something else.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Elite on December 24, 2021, 09:04:58 AM
I sent two tracks
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 24, 2021, 09:05:53 AM
I sent two tracks

Feeling bold, are we?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Elite on December 24, 2021, 10:07:16 AM
Incredibly
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Elite on December 24, 2021, 10:22:02 AM
SPLIT YOUR LUNGS WITH BLOOD AND THUNDER
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Lonk on December 24, 2021, 10:23:55 AM
SPLIT YOUR LUNGS WITH BLOOD AND THUNDER
WHEN YOU SEE THE WHITE WHALLLEEEEE
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Elite on December 24, 2021, 10:31:56 AM
I didn’t actually send it :lol wolfking please send Blood and Thunder and March of the Fire Ants
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 24, 2021, 01:22:28 PM
SPLIT YOUR LUNGS WITH BLOOD AND THUNDER
WHEN YOU SEE THE WHITE WHALLLEEEEE
BREAK YOUR BACKS AND CRACK YOUR OARS, MEN
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: wolfking on December 24, 2021, 01:46:12 PM
I didn’t actually send it :lol wolfking please send Blood and Thunder and March of the Fire Ants

Fire Ants was a very strong consideration for me.  Mother Puncher also.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Elite on December 24, 2021, 01:57:49 PM
You will probably approve of what I sent :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 24, 2021, 02:11:12 PM
Mother Puncher?? I may send that one.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Revenge319 on December 24, 2021, 03:22:23 PM
If I participated, I would send songs from Remission in this round (that's my favorite Mastodon album so far). I'd most likely send Crusher Destroyer and Mother Puncher.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: romdrums on December 24, 2021, 03:34:02 PM
If I participated, I would send songs from Remission in this round (that's my favorite Mastodon album so far). I'd most likely send Crusher Destroyer and Mother Puncher.

God damn, Remission is so good.  :metal  The first time I heard the opening riff of Crusher Destroyer I was blown away. 
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Evermind on December 25, 2021, 03:22:22 AM
Cool!

I don't even want to roll dice for this, I'll pick something based solely on the track titles this evening.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: wolfking on December 25, 2021, 03:36:31 AM
Remission is indeed amazing but I didn't send anything from it.  Tim has had a hard enough time with the vocals so not sure how Remission style would sit.  Could be the total opposite though since they are more brutal then their later stuff.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Elite on December 25, 2021, 04:51:21 AM
Exactly why I didn’t send anything from Remission either
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 25, 2021, 08:09:24 AM
Cool!

I don't even want to roll dice for this, I'll pick something based solely on the track titles this evening.

 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Crow on December 25, 2021, 10:41:47 AM
i didn't pick anything from remission because i've never listened to it
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Evermind on December 25, 2021, 01:23:52 PM
Just sent!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: ariich on December 25, 2021, 03:17:11 PM
Sent!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 25, 2021, 08:40:50 PM
Merry Christmas to The TAC DTF Faves roulette!

I have 13 of the 17 participants in. No rush, please by Monday afternoon.

I have eliminated FOUR Wild Cards™ and the playlist stands at 20 songs 1h36m.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 26, 2021, 02:11:21 PM
So, just a few first impressions after listening to about 12-15 tracks.

This is easily the worst band in this roulette.


I put them last on purpose to go out with a bang. That ain't fucking happening. Maybe I'll have an epiphany.


I feel like the guitarist is copying Michael Schenker, but playing it extra sloppy so the teacher doesn't think he's cheating.

The drumming is good. The vocals absolutely blow.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 26, 2021, 02:16:20 PM
My 2nd song is getting a six. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Crow on December 26, 2021, 02:21:10 PM
This is easily the worst band in this roulette.

I put them last on purpose to go out with a bang. That ain't fucking happening. Maybe I'll have an epiphany.
i don't know enough about neal morse to confirm this but yeah mastodon are by far my least favorite of the acts here i do know  :rollin
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 26, 2021, 02:23:29 PM
My 2nd song is getting a six. :lol

That high?  :corn




This is easily the worst band in this roulette.

I put them last on purpose to go out with a bang. That ain't fucking happening. Maybe I'll have an epiphany.
i don't know enough about neal morse to confirm this but yeah mastodon are by far my least favorite of the acts here i do know  :rollin

I seriously don't know what they do.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 26, 2021, 02:39:32 PM
So, just a few first impressions after listening to about 12-15 tracks.

This is easily the worst band in this roulette.


I put them last on purpose to go out with a bang. That ain't fucking happening. Maybe I'll have an epiphany.


I feel like the guitarist is copying Michael Schenker, but playing it extra sloppy so the teacher doesn't think he's cheating.

The drumming is good. The vocals absolutely blow.
And on that terrible disappointment, everyone loses The TAC Roulette V.5.... :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 26, 2021, 02:42:03 PM
So, just a few first impressions after listening to about 12-15 tracks.

This is easily the worst band in this roulette.


I put them last on purpose to go out with a bang. That ain't fucking happening. Maybe I'll have an epiphany.


I feel like the guitarist is copying Michael Schenker, but playing it extra sloppy so the teacher doesn't think he's cheating.

The drumming is good. The vocals absolutely blow.
And on that terrible disappointment, everyone loses The TAC Roulette V.5.... :biggrin:

You could not send anything this round and still win this roulette. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 26, 2021, 02:45:17 PM
Mastodon’s one of those bands that is consistently good / decent for me, but none of their songs or albums have quite passed over the threshold to “amazing”. I really wish they explored their proggier side more as CTS and the Cold Dark Place EP are easily my favorite releases by them.

I probably would have been better off something from that EP… whatever, not like I have a >0% chance of winning. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Lonk on December 26, 2021, 03:22:03 PM
This is easily the worst band in this roulette.
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/3oEjHKvjqt5pssL99C/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9528ae897cf3b7f6fa343e0a1fdca713f557b8102ba&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 26, 2021, 03:22:33 PM
This is easily the worst band in this roulette.
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/3oEjHKvjqt5pssL99C/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9528ae897cf3b7f6fa343e0a1fdca713f557b8102ba&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)

Yeah, that's me looking at Spotify right now.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: HOF on December 26, 2021, 03:29:16 PM
I relistened to one of the songs after I sent it and thought, “yeah, this is kind of lame.” Singer (there may be more than one) kind of reminds me of Ozzy Osborne at times. Also a little Pantera-ish vocally at times maybe? Or like Rob Zombie. Gruff guy metal voice.

I do really like the drumming though.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 26, 2021, 04:48:52 PM
I relistened to one of the songs after I sent it and thought, “yeah, this is kind of lame.” Singer (there may be more than one) kind of reminds me of Ozzy Osborne at times. Also a little Pantera-ish vocally at times maybe? Or like Rob Zombie. Gruff guy metal voice.

I do really like the drumming though.
Brann Dailor is one of the most underrated drummers out there, and not just in metal. The guy can play anything and he has.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 26, 2021, 05:01:38 PM
You feel he's underrated. I thought he's fairly rated. Mastodon is known for their great drummer.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 26, 2021, 05:02:30 PM
Also if you want your Thin Lizzy connection for Mastodon, Troy Sanders (Mastodon's bassist), currently plays bass for Thin Lizzy on tours.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 26, 2021, 05:04:19 PM
Also if you want your Thin Lizzy connection for Mastodon....

Do you guys see now??


(https://c.tenor.com/vbK_tsUbmc0AAAAC/space-universe.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Crow on December 26, 2021, 05:05:25 PM
 :lol

i hope my songs are among the ones you hate the least
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 26, 2021, 05:22:26 PM
:lol

i hope my songs are among the ones you hate the least

I all ready know he hates one of my songs  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 26, 2021, 06:12:02 PM
Outplayed, boring: Five degrees of Kevin Bacon
Innovative, fun: Five degrees of Thin Lizzy
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 26, 2021, 06:16:31 PM
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vx4TM8u0kn0/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 26, 2021, 07:06:51 PM
Just waiting for..

425
Professor
Stadler
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 26, 2021, 08:49:23 PM
Just waiting for..

425
Professor
Stadler

I sent on the 23rd. Did it not go through?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 27, 2021, 01:22:16 AM
You feel he's underrated. I thought he's fairly rated. Mastodon is known for their great drummer.

And I always feel, that as good as he is, he's seriously overplaying. Less would be more, imo.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Lonk on December 27, 2021, 06:34:28 AM
You feel he's underrated. I thought he's fairly rated. Mastodon is known for their great drummer.

And I always feel, that as good as he is, he's seriously overplaying. Less would be more, imo.

I think he has been better about overplaying in the last 4 albums or so. This song (banned in this round) has some of my favorite drumming from him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBqyOZdabJA

The part at at 3:19  :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 27, 2021, 09:44:03 AM
I sent on the 23rd. Did it not go through?

I got it! :blush
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Podaar on December 27, 2021, 02:41:47 PM
Hoping that one of you gents sent him Bladecatcher or even Aunt Lisa.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Lonk on December 27, 2021, 02:52:49 PM
Hoping that one of you gents sent him Bladecatcher or even Aunt Lisa.  :lol
I thought about Aunt Lisa, just the ending itself is worth a listen. Ultimately I chose 2 other songs from the same album, though.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 27, 2021, 03:17:16 PM
Hoping that one of you gents sent him Bladecatcher or even Aunt Lisa.  :lol

Well, I'm still waiting on Stadler. I'm sure he could use some help in this round.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: wolfking on December 27, 2021, 03:26:56 PM
So, just a few first impressions after listening to about 12-15 tracks.

This is easily the worst band in this roulette.


I put them last on purpose to go out with a bang. That ain't fucking happening. Maybe I'll have an epiphany.


I feel like the guitarist is copying Michael Schenker, but playing it extra sloppy so the teacher doesn't think he's cheating.

The drumming is good. The vocals absolutely blow.

Holy fucking shit!  I'm not sure if we can be friends any more.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Podaar on December 27, 2021, 03:28:56 PM
So, just a few first impressions after listening to about 12-15 tracks.

This is easily the worst band in this roulette.


I put them last on purpose to go out with a bang. That ain't fucking happening. Maybe I'll have an epiphany.


I feel like the guitarist is copying Michael Schenker, but playing it extra sloppy so the teacher doesn't think he's cheating.

The drumming is good. The vocals absolutely blow.

Holy fucking shit!  I'm not sure if we can be friends any more.

I thought the same thing when I read that, Kade. Then I remembered, I'm not friends with him now.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 27, 2021, 03:42:22 PM
WOW!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Crow on December 27, 2021, 03:56:09 PM
Hoping that one of you gents sent him Bladecatcher or even Aunt Lisa.  :lol

Well, I'm still waiting on Stadler. I'm sure he could use some help in this round.
creature lives and bladecatcher there ya go
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Elite on December 28, 2021, 01:35:31 AM
Bladecatcher is an instrumental though
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Crow on December 28, 2021, 01:39:05 AM
it has those weird demonic vocals in one bit tho :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2021, 02:18:02 AM
WOW!

While I'm obviously joking, I'm as shocked as you are to my thoughts on the new DT.  Maybe Mastodon being last you're getting a little tired and burnt out?  Or I'm clutching, that's probably more like it.  Saying that, I find that difficult to digest when Haken was included and Neal Morse to a lesser degree, but you've always been upfront about these guys so I shouldn't be too surprised I guess. 

I'm even more intrigued now to see the playlist now.

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2021, 02:20:06 AM
I remember picking up Leviathan from the cd store on a whim based on some small samples and the hype behind the album at the time.  It was like nothing I'd ever heard before.  Everything about it blew me away.  I was mad for guitar solos at that time but I've never felt once that the album needed them.  I guess I just have a real connection with these guys.  Nostalgia obviously plays a part when discovering and checking bands others love.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Evermind on December 28, 2021, 09:05:04 AM
I'm listening to one of my tracks right now for the first time and man do I want to turn it off :lol

It's from Leviathan too :rollin
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 28, 2021, 09:14:17 AM
I have never been able to get into Leviathan aside from Blood And Thunder and Hearts Alive. The songwriting on the rest just isn’t there for me.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: LudwigVan on December 28, 2021, 12:12:54 PM
Of the bands in this roulette, I'm already a fan of Opeth, PT/SW, C&C and SB/NM, owning 95% of these bands' collective studio discography.

Of the other four, I only own 1 or 2 albums of each and wouldn't consider myself a fan (least of all BTBAM), but after this roulette, I'd say Mastodon is the only one I'd be willing to take a deeper dive on. Still not completely convinced though.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Lonk on December 28, 2021, 12:21:31 PM
With Mastodon, I gravitate more towards their recent releases (Mainly Crack the Skye and onward). But those first 3 albums are just special, in their own wacky way.

First song I heard from them was Sleeping Giant around 2007, and that song is still one of my favorites.

Did Stadler send his songs yet?  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: TAC on December 28, 2021, 01:03:57 PM

Did Stadler send his songs yet?  :corn

Not yet. I just PM'd him. I'll list the tracks this evening. I didn't get any listening in yesterday because I was sick, but I'll be running through the songs again today.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? Scorecupine Tree!
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 28, 2021, 01:50:57 PM
Crack The Skye is really good, and if it had better production I would call it great. The Hunter is good. Blood Mountain and Once More Round The Sun I've tried but they did nothing for me.

So I'm curious what you guys sent and think are songs worthy to hear. I plan on listening to them and see if they convince me to give Mastodon another chance.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 28, 2021, 05:29:02 PM
Here's the list!

Romdrums
Chimes At Midnight
Steambreather

Cyril
Colony Of Birchmen
Capillarian Crest

Buddy
Black Tongue
Halloween

Vmadera
Chimes At Midnight
Ember City

HOF
High Road
Ember City

Kwyjibo
Black Tongue
Creature Lives

Wolfking
Crystal Skull
The Motherload


Elite
Capillarian Crest
Megalodon

LudwigVan
Crystal Skull
The Hunter

Kingshmegland
Jaguar God
Pushing The Tides

Evermind
Naked Burn
Octopus Has No Friends

Ariich
Roots Remain
Gigantium

Lonestar
Stargasm
Roots Remain

Puppies
Sleeping Giant
Capillarian Crest


Professor
Fallen Torches
Roots Remain

425
The Motherload
Ember City

Stadler
Steambreather
Jaguar God


https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6MWvbqmA0lycpxl7oQOdfC?si=38b9badc68454485
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on December 28, 2021, 05:34:14 PM
Some questionable submissions, but overall pretty good setlist.

I had a feeling my two songs would be submitted by others
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 28, 2021, 05:34:59 PM
Some questionable submissions

 :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 28, 2021, 05:53:31 PM
Nobody sent Blood And Thunder.

We fucked up. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on December 28, 2021, 06:04:47 PM
I don’t know how I manage to keep sending duplicates for artists I know almost nothing by compared to everyone else. I almost sent The Motherload too.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 28, 2021, 06:08:01 PM
how am i the only one to send Colony of Birchmen & how screwed am I?  :corn

also puppies basically wins by default at this point because I don't see Colony of Birchmen scoring 0.6+ higher than sleeping giant lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2021, 06:19:41 PM
Overall, that's an awful list.  A lot of bizarre choices.

Funny I played my wildcard and my fav Mastodon song is the one that gets cut.  I picked it would have been though.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 28, 2021, 06:57:24 PM

Funny I played my wildcard and my fav Mastodon song is the one that gets cut.  I picked it would have been though.
what was it  :corn
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2021, 07:23:46 PM

Funny I played my wildcard and my fav Mastodon song is the one that gets cut.  I picked it would have been though.
what was it  :corn

Iron Tusk.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Revenge319 on December 28, 2021, 07:24:41 PM
Nobody sent Blood And Thunder.

We fucked up. :lol

Really surprised about this, seeing as it seems to be their most popular song. Perhaps everyone thought "someone else is going to send this, so I'll send something else"?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 28, 2021, 08:12:20 PM
Overall, that's an awful list.  A lot of bizarre choices.

Funny I played my wildcard and my fav Mastodon song is the one that gets cut.  I picked it would have been though.
I honestly could have sent almost anything from the first 3 albums, they are that good. Everything after Crack the Skye, at least for me, is fairly bland.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2021, 08:39:16 PM
Nobody sent Blood And Thunder.

We fucked up. :lol

Really surprised about this, seeing as it seems to be their most popular song. Perhaps everyone thought "someone else is going to send this, so I'll send something else"?

I just think they have a lot of better songs honestly.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on December 28, 2021, 08:47:59 PM
I don’t know how I manage to keep sending duplicates for artists I know almost nothing by compared to everyone else. I almost sent The Motherload too.

I mean, one of the people who sent both Ember City and The Motherload was me, and I also know nothing about this band.


I think Sleeping Giant will win because TAC likes AVFtTotW.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on December 28, 2021, 09:02:48 PM
I don’t know how I manage to keep sending duplicates for artists I know almost nothing by compared to everyone else. I almost sent The Motherload too.

I mean, one of the people who sent both Ember City and The Motherload was me, and I also know nothing about this band.


I think Sleeping Giant will win because TAC likes AVFtTotW.

I expected it with Haken (1984) and PT (Sound of Muzak) as I knew those were popular songs, but had no idea with Opeth (Windowpane) and really no idea with Mastodon. I think one of my Devin Townsend ones was a duplicate as well.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2021, 09:42:26 PM
I don’t know how I manage to keep sending duplicates for artists I know almost nothing by compared to everyone else. I almost sent The Motherload too.

I mean, one of the people who sent both Ember City and The Motherload was me, and I also know nothing about this band.


I think Sleeping Giant will win because TAC likes AVFtTotW.

I expected it with Haken (1984) and PT (Sound of Muzak) as I knew those were popular songs, but had no idea with Opeth (Windowpane) and really no idea with Mastodon. I think one of my Devin Townsend ones was a duplicate as well.

I think you missed the joke.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Elite on December 29, 2021, 01:15:09 AM
Nobody sent Blood And Thunder.

We fucked up. :lol

Really surprised about this, seeing as it seems to be their most popular song. Perhaps everyone thought "someone else is going to send this, so I'll send something else"?

This was me, and I prefer Megalodon from that album. Barely anything from Leviathan and nothing from Remission kind of surprises me.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 29, 2021, 03:33:10 AM
Nobody sent Blood And Thunder.

We fucked up. :lol

Really surprised about this, seeing as it seems to be their most popular song. Perhaps everyone thought "someone else is going to send this, so I'll send something else"?

This was me, and I prefer Megalodon from that album. Barely anything from Leviathan and nothing from Remission kind of surprises me.

As I said I went Iron Tusk over everything else yet it missed out.

Really don't see Tim liking anything from Remission.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: wolfking on December 29, 2021, 03:38:59 AM
One song I never really got the hype for was Chimes at Midnight.  One of the weakest on the album IMO.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on December 29, 2021, 06:38:46 AM
One song I never really got the hype for was Chimes at Midnight.  One of the weakest on the album IMO.

To me, Chimes at Midnight is one of the better tracks on that album. It's energetic and straight forward, yet enjoyable without trying to do too much  :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 29, 2021, 07:47:09 AM
I think you missed the joke.

I got it.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: HOF on December 29, 2021, 07:57:19 AM
I think you missed the joke.

I got it.  :lol

I got it looking back, but wasn’t really what I was talking about.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Podaar on December 29, 2021, 09:04:12 AM
One song I never really got the hype for was Chimes at Midnight.  One of the weakest on the album IMO.

ALL MY HEROES...THEY'RE ALL DEAD

:2metal:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: romdrums on December 29, 2021, 09:08:15 AM
One song I never really got the hype for was Chimes at Midnight.  One of the weakest on the album IMO.

ALL MY HEROES...THEY'RE ALL DEAD

:2metal:

:2metal:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: 425 on December 29, 2021, 09:43:57 AM
I think you missed the joke.

I got it.  :lol

I got it looking back, but wasn’t really what I was talking about.

Yeah, my post had two parts and I took you to be responding to the first part, not the joke.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 29, 2021, 09:45:00 AM
Oh, I thought the first part was the joke. ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 30, 2021, 12:04:31 PM
I'm assuming Tim is in the hospital with ear issues from this round and why he hasn't responded in a day. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Lonk on December 30, 2021, 12:13:23 PM
He decided to watch all the music videos and hasn't recovered yet.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/izOmXU67jyI4Qbocqu/giphy-downsized-large.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 30, 2021, 12:27:48 PM
I'm assuming Tim is in the hospital with ear issues from this round and why he hasn't responded in a day. :lol

Hah!

I actually have 5 writeups done. Results are running behind though as I got some sort of stomach bug this week. Been feeling shitty all week. Going to bed at 7:30 probably again tonight.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 30, 2021, 12:36:29 PM
I'm assuming Tim is in the hospital with ear issues from this round and why he hasn't responded in a day. :lol

Hah!

I actually have 5 writeups done. Results are running behind though as I got some sort of stomach bug this week. Been feeling shitty all week. Going to bed at 7:30 probably again tonight.

I feel ya.  Just getting over a virus that I still cough and hear junk in my chest still.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 30, 2021, 12:38:59 PM
I'm assuming Tim is in the hospital with ear issues from this round and why he hasn't responded in a day. :lol

Hah!

I actually have 5 writeups done. Results are running behind though as I got some sort of stomach bug this week. Been feeling shitty all week. Going to bed at 7:30 probably again tonight.

I feel ya.  Just getting over a virus that I still cough and hear junk in my chest still.

Sounds like Covid.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 30, 2021, 12:50:08 PM
The test taken said negative. Not the home test either.  It was another type of virus.  When it normally happens (I have no spleen) I end up getting bronchitis.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 30, 2021, 12:56:26 PM
The test taken said negative. Not the home test either.  It was another type of virus.  When it normally happens (I have no spleen) I end up getting bronchitis.

Oh, OK.  I just had pain in my stomach. No other symptoms. No nausea. God knows I tried too. lol. Was tough trying to sleep. I even missed a day and a half of work. That's fucked by itself.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Postwhore on December 30, 2021, 12:58:14 PM
I should have taken a day or two off but didn't.  Just stayed masked in my office.   I still feel the chest congestion.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 31, 2021, 09:41:33 AM
So Results will be sometime next year.  ;D

Er..make that tomorrow. I’ve heard everything 4-5 times. Thank God it was a short playlist. Literally half of some of the others. The write ups are not extremely in depth for the most part but a few sentences. The usual I guess. I’ve been laid up a bit this week so that put me behind a couple of days.

I have my Results Posts formatted. I just need to give to finish the final ranking, give the songs scores, and update the standings.   
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 31, 2021, 10:52:34 AM
Congrats ariich!  :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 31, 2021, 12:15:59 PM
Congrats ariich!  :metal

So, without assigning scores, I feel like this was Puppies' worst round. Did you two in striking distance do enough?

 :corn

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Crow on December 31, 2021, 12:44:09 PM
i mean me and puppies share half our fate so, yes, i don't think i bested him here  :rollin
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 31, 2021, 03:18:52 PM
I've got a bad feeling about this...
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 31, 2021, 06:45:09 PM
So, just remember my scoring system.

8.5+...I love!
8.0-8.4...I really like
7.5-7.9...I like
Below 7.5...Ugh

There were 5 songs over 8.0 and 4 songs below 7.5. That means everything was bunched up in the 7.5-8.0 range, not unlike most rounds.


I really found something to like in pretty much every song, with a handful that really stood out.

I have a few thoughts on Mastodon...

One of the vocalists..the Cobain Guy, is AWFUL. I mean, he's almost unlistenable for me. There's no personality. I make a couple comparisons to Nirvana in my reviews, but this guy is not in Cobain's league vocally.

The other vocalist..the Ozzy Guy, is so much better. He's memorable because he really reminds me of early Ozzy Era Sabbath. Those particular songs benefitted.

It's not that the drummer overplays...it's more that the band simply doesn't keep up with him. He's the only musician in the band I cared to listen too. Other than the bass player. I found the guitars pretty boring on the whole. They imitated Schenker and Iommi in spots but other than that, they did nothing for me.

I found a lot of the songwriting pretty terrible. Either they didn't know how to end a song, or they'd have a 1 minute + intro for a 4 minute song. In a few tracks, the song would be halfway through before it actually mattered.

I ain't gonna lie. This was my least favorite round. The scores will resemble the other rounds on the whole, but in reality, the whole playlist could be downgraded by 2-3 points total. That said, everyone is graded relative to each other so it doesn't really matter anyway. I just wanted to get that off my chest. ;D





Finally, I wanted to thank everyone for playing. I was ready to run a roulette, but I like to have some sort of concept behind it, as most of you know. I realize that this was an odd one, but I really enjoyed it, and these playlists are roadmaps to these artists that I can travel on. I know in a number of rounds, some of you were winging it, but that's OK. I think Evermind was winging it in every round. :lol *Spoiler Alert* Evermind came in last, so there's that.  :lol
 As long as we had some yuks along the way, it's all good. I appreciate the wide range of tastes here. I got something excellent from everyone here along the way.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 31, 2021, 06:49:46 PM
Round 8 Results!!



Romdrums

Chimes At Midnight...7.9

Cool intro. I like the chorus and the part from 2:42-2:56. I like how the drums blend into the musical lines. The intro returns as the outro. I like that. The verses hold this back a bit.

Steambreather...8.0

Enjoyable enough verse. What’s this? A melodic chorus? There’s a brief guitar line right before the chorus. Reminds me of 80’s Rush…right before the chorus of Between The Wheels or something. This has a cool pace.
7.9+8.0=15.9/2=7.95



Cyril

Colony Of Birchmen...7.4
These vocals are awful. I don’t know what else to say. There’s no musicality to this. This sounds like a bunch of teenagers in their parents’ basement. Such rudimentary riffing. The last minute is pretty decent but sounds like no more than a bad Sabbath cover band.

Capillarian Crest...7.8

The first minute reminds me of mid 80’s crossover punk/metal. The next minute and a half fucking rocks.  Cool part at 2:59. I like the uptempo ending, but I’m seriously getting a snare drum overdose.
7.4+7.8=15.2/2=7.60



Buddy

Black Tongue...7.7

This is a quick and satisfying little rocker. Don’t love the vocals. Solo is cool. Love the harmony coming out of the solo at 2:28. Not nearly enough of this kind of thing in this playlist. I like the interesting rhythm that’s played in this too. Cool song.

Halloween...8.4

I liked this on first listen. The verse & chorus move along quite nicely, with good pace. The chorus has the Ozzy styled voice on it. The instrumental section/solo is excellent.
7.7+8.4=16.1/2=8.05



Vmadera

Chimes At Midnight...7.9
Cool intro. I like the chorus and the part from 2:42-2:56. I like how the drums blend into the musical lines. The intro returns as the outro. I like that. The verses hold this back a bit.

Ember City...8.5

This song gives me Thin Lizzy vibes in the leadup to the verse. I like the nice melodic chorus. Right at 2:59, I hear Thin Lizzy’s Massacre. I love that there’s a second solo section. Sounds like Gorham/Robertson in the outro to me!
7.9+8.5=16.4/2=8.20



HOF

High Road...8.0

Wicked Ozzy vibe in the chorus. Great guitar line at 2:51. While I don’t have a ton to say about this, I really liked this song.

Ember City...8.5

This song gives me Thin Lizzy vibes in the leadup to the verse. I like the nice melodic chorus. Right at 2:59, I hear Thin Lizzy’s Massacre. I love that there’s a second solo section. Sounds like Gorham/Robertson in the outro to me!
8.0+8.5=16.5/2=8.25



Kwyjibo

Black Tongue...7.7

This is a quick and satisfying little rocker. Don’t love the vocals. Solo is cool. Love the harmony coming out of the solo at 2:28. Not nearly enough of this kind of thing in this playlist. I like the interesting rhythm that’s played in this too. Cool song.

Creature Lives...7.4

That’s quite an intro. 25% of the song? This song was almost uncomfortable to listen to.  Seems like a B-side, with its goofy lyrics. That’s a nice solo at 2:52 though.
7.7+7.4=15.1/2=7.55



Wolfking

Crystal Skull...7.8

Don’t love the vocals to the vocal lines, but damn, that’s some great music underneath. Cool lick at 1:22.  At 2:30, it feels like Geezer Butler is teeing up the solo which is half Iommi half Schenker.

The Motherload...8.5

Loved this song right out of the gate. Has such an Ozzy vibe to it in the verse, but especially the chorus. And that chorus might be the most memorable line in the playlist. Mid 70’s Ozzy! The instrumental section is really interesting. Listening to both guitars…do I hear 70’s Rush in my left? Nice harmony coming out too.
7.8+8.5=16.3/2=8.15



Elite

Capillarian Crest...7.8
The first minute reminds me of mid 80’s crossover punk/metal. The next minute and a half fucking rocks.  Cool part at 2:59. I like the uptempo ending, but I’m seriously getting a snare drum overdose.

Megalodon...8.2

Frantic opening, reminds me of something like S.O.D. Then BAM at 1:26. What a great freaking part! Reminds me of when Welcome Home (Sanitarium) kicks in, but faster. Nice clear double kick. Another ode to Metallica at 3:01. Cool song.
7.8+8.2=16/2=8.00



LudwigVan

Crystal Skull...7.8

Don’t love the vocals to the vocal lines, but damn, that’s some great music underneath. Cool lick at 1:22.  At 2:30, it feels like Geezer Butler is teeing up the solo which is half Iommi half Schenker.

The Hunter...7.5

Oof, these vocals in the verse are horrible. Was the guy taking a shit while recording? I do like the gloomy beat of this. It’s a bit different than most of the songs here. The second solo from about the 3:40 mark on has an Iommi-ish feel to it.
7.8+7.5=15.3/2=7.65
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 31, 2021, 06:50:02 PM
Kingshmegland

Jaguar God...8.0

The first half of this song is a tad uneventful. I like the second part a bit more than the first.  At 4:38, things really get interesting. The step down at 6:27 is a nice touch. Has kind of a Schenker feel towards the end though.

Pushing The Tides...8.0

Energetic number here. The first minute or so brings a frantic verse with some great drum rhythms. This definitely rocks. Not sure where this is supposed to take me though. Just kind of goes limp.
8.0+8.0=16.0/2=8.0



Evermind

Naked Burn...7.5

Cool little energetic song with some great drumming. Don’t really have much to say about it.

Octopus Has No Friends...7.5

This song has a Nirvana feel to me. At least vocally. Kind of mundane verses. The music is almost too busy for this. The lyrics are soothing, but the music is anything but. Strange song.
7.5+7.5=15.0/2=7.50



Ariich

Roots Remain...8.2

Pretty aggressive verse..don’t love this guys voice at all. But the Ozzy guy comes in with a nice chorus. The part at 3:24 is really cool. Gets eerie at 4:27, but it is interesting at least. Real nice solo. The second half of this song is excellent, much better than the first half. Still, a good song.

Gigantium...8.0

The first half of this song is really sludgey to get through. Kind of Devin Townsend-ish. A bit of U2ish effects in the guitar that stands out. The song really brightens at 3:26. That Schenker solo at 5:08 hits me right in the nads. Was a grower.
8.2+8.0=16.2/2=8.10



Lonestar

Stargasm...7.5

This has a cool intro. 25% of the song though? Don’t care for the verses really, but the Ozzy chorus is cool. There does seem to be some jamming going on under the verse though. Did I miss the solo?

Roots Remain...8.0

Pretty aggressive verse..don’t love this guys voice at all. But the Ozzy guy comes in with a nice chorus. The part at 3:24 is really cool. Gets eerie at 4:27, but it is interesting at least. Real nice solo. The second half of this song is excellent, much better than the first half. Still, a good song.
7.5+8.0=15.5/2=7.75



Puppies

Sleeping Giant...7.4

That’s in interesting intro. I can’t quite place it. Some God awful vocals though. I do like the part at 4:22 when it changes up a bit before the solo. Can’t say I’m a huge fan of this.

Capillarian Crest...7.8

The first minute reminds me of mid 80’s crossover punk/metal. The next minute and a half fucking rocks.  Cool part at 2:59. I like the uptempo ending, but I’m seriously getting a snare drum overdose.
7.4+7.8=15.2/2=7.60



Professor

Fallen Torches...7.3

I think I’d rather just listen to Nirvana.

Roots Remain...8.0

Pretty aggressive verse..don’t love this guys voice at all. But the Ozzy guy comes in with a nice chorus. The part at 3:24 is really cool. Gets eerie at 4:27, but it is interesting at least. Real nice solo. The second half of this song is excellent, much better than the first half. Still, a good song.
7.3+8.0=15.3/2=7.65



425

The Motherload...8.5

Loved this song right out of the gate. Has such an Ozzy vibe to it in the verse, but especially the chorus. And that chorus might be the most memorable line in the playlist. Mid 70’s Ozzy! The instrumental section is really interesting. Listening to both guitars…do I hear 70’s Rush in my left? Nice harmony coming out too.

Ember City...8.5

This song gives me Thin Lizzy vibes in the leadup to the verse. I like the nice melodic chorus. Right at 2:59, I hear Thin Lizzy’s Massacre. I love that there’s a second solo section. Sounds like Gorham/Robertson in the outro to me!
8.5+8.5=17.0/2=8.50



Stadler

Steambreather...8.0

Enjoyable enough verse. What’s this? A melodic chorus? There’s a brief guitar line right before the chorus. Reminds me of 80’s Rush…right before the chorus of Between The Wheels or something. This has a cool pace.

Jaguar God...8.0

The first half of this song is a tad uneventful. I like the second part a bit more than the first.  At 4:38, things really get interesting. The step down at 6:27 is a nice touch. Has kind of a Schenker feel towards the end though.
8.0+8.0=16.0/2=8.00
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: TAC on December 31, 2021, 06:50:20 PM
Round 8 Standings!!


425...8.50
HOF...8.25
Vmadera...8.20
Wolfking...8.15
Ariich...8.10
Buddy...8.05
Elite...8.00
Stadler...8.00
Kindshmegland...8.00
Romdrums....7.95
Lonestar...7.75
LudwigVan...7.65
Professor...7.65
Cyril...7.60
Puppies...7.60
Kwyjibo...7.55
Evermind...7.50





Final Standings!!!



Puppies...8.60+8.15+8.25+8.35+8.20+8.35+7.95+7.60=65.45
Ariich...9.0+8.15+7.60+7.85+8.05+8.45+7.95+8.10=65.15
VMadera...8.45+7.35+7.95+8.30+8.60+8.20+7.95+8.20=65.00
Cyril...7.55+8.25+7.95+8.45+8.35+8.30+8.40+7.60=64.95
Romdrums...8.25+7.65+8.25+7.8+7.80+8.50+7.60+7.95=64.80
425...7.90+7.40+7.65+8.45+7.85+8.35+8.0+8.50=64.10
Wolfking...7.80+7.6+8.10+8.0+7.90+8.50+7.95+8.15=64.00
Professor...8.20+7.6+7.0+8.05+8.30+8.80+8.20+7.65=63.80
LudwigVan...8.35+7.55+7.35+7.90+8.30+8.45+7.75+7.65=63.50
Kingshmegland...7.70+8.25+7.85+7.85+8.20+7.90+7.50+8.00=63.25
Buddy...7.05+8.15+7.75+8.05+8.20+8.20+7.55+8.05=63.00
Kwyjibo...7.80+8.75+7.65+8.15+7.60+8.05+7.40+7.55=62.95
HOF...7.65+7.50+8.05+7.60+7.95+7.90+7.95+8.25=62.85
Elite...7.50+7.75+7.60+7.90+7.80+8.65+7.45+8.00=62.65
Lonestar...7.80+7.25+7.85+7.40+8.0+8.20+8.10+7.75=62.35
Stadler...8.50+7.75+7.35+7.55+7.85+7.85+7.50+8.00=62.35
Evermind...8.20+7.75+7.55+7.45+7.80+7.90+8.0+7.50=62.15





Feel free to check my math!!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on December 31, 2021, 06:52:29 PM
Congrats Chris! You were the most consistent, never letting up. Until the last round  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: Lonk on December 31, 2021, 06:53:59 PM
I'll take 3rd place for my first roulette  :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on December 31, 2021, 06:58:44 PM
I'll take 3rd place for my first roulette  :metal

Very impressed, brother. Nice job.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: Lonk on December 31, 2021, 07:11:20 PM
Now go watch the music video to The Motherload and make sure no kids are around lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: Elite on December 31, 2021, 07:15:04 PM
14th place!! :metal :metal


And my song won the Opeth round. I did my part. Glad to have played, thanks for running this!!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on December 31, 2021, 07:15:40 PM
Now go watch the music video to The Motherload and make sure no kids are around lol

That is some serious slo-mo! :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: wolfking on December 31, 2021, 07:19:41 PM
Thanks for having me once again Tim.

With Mastodon though, there's actually 3 vocalists in total, but not that you really give a shit now anyway.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on December 31, 2021, 07:20:59 PM
With Mastodon though, there's actually 3 vocalists in total, but not that you really give a shit now anyway.  :lol

 :lol


Well, he sucks too! :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 31, 2021, 07:27:58 PM
Thanks Tim.  Always love your roulettes.

Puppies, congratulations!!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on December 31, 2021, 07:29:07 PM
Thanks Joe. I'm glad you were part of it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: HOF on December 31, 2021, 07:39:31 PM
Awesome, not last! I’m pretty sure I did the best in the rounds where I didn’t know the artist at all. This was a fun exercise that forced me to listen to some bands I ordinarily wouldn’t. I may not be buying any Mastadon or Coheed albums any time soon, but I was able to find things in them that I enjoyed. I think BTBAM is the only band here who I probably will never ever listen to again.

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on December 31, 2021, 07:41:47 PM
I’m pretty sure I did the best in the rounds where I didn’t know the artist at all.

 :lol

That's beautiful.


This was a fun exercise that forced me to listen to some bands I ordinarily wouldn’t.

Yes it was. Glad you listened along and were part of my roulette.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: wolfking on December 31, 2021, 07:50:56 PM
With Mastodon though, there's actually 3 vocalists in total, but not that you really give a shit now anyway.  :lol

 :lol


Well, he sucks too! :lol

 :lol  I walked right into that one.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 31, 2021, 07:58:04 PM
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/S51mbDRgAI7CwfqcBN/200w.gif?cid=82a1493b8pngxjycgwwkql1i253fq8bc7axlquvz1of4euwm&rid=200w.gif&ct=g)

But in all seriousness, this was a fun roulette! Thanks for running this! Now for my victory dance...

(http://i.imgur.com/bOBon.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: wolfking on December 31, 2021, 07:58:42 PM
Well done mate.  A nice challenging roulette to win.  :tup
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 31, 2021, 08:00:31 PM
And I almost threw it all away in the last round. Ariich brought the heat! :flame:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on December 31, 2021, 08:02:58 PM
And I almost threw it all away in the last round. Ariich brought the heat! :flame:

You almost had your fatal round in the last round. That would've hurt for sure. :lol

Lucky for you, Cyril tanked too.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: Crow on December 31, 2021, 08:14:09 PM
sorry that mastodon are a very mid band at best  :lol

it seems like you had a bias towards their more recent stuff as far as i can tell, of which i have listened to exactly none of, the last mastodon album i bought was the hunter back in 2011 and i didn't even like that one much  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on December 31, 2021, 08:16:18 PM
Cyril, thanks for playing. I appreciate it.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 31, 2021, 08:17:25 PM
sorry that mastodon are a very mid band at best  :lol

it seems like you had a bias towards their more recent stuff as far as i can tell, of which i have listened to exactly none of, the last mastodon album i bought was the hunter back in 2011 and i didn't even like that one much  :lol
Yeah, The Hunter is where I got off the Mastodon train. Everything after Crack the Skye was just downhill.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: Crow on December 31, 2021, 08:22:40 PM
Cyril, thanks for playing. I appreciate it.
the highlight of this has to be me winning the round & getting my best score of the roulette with the only artist here i don't listen to  :rollin
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on December 31, 2021, 08:23:48 PM
Cyril, thanks for playing. I appreciate it.
the highlight of this has to be me winning the round & getting my best score of the roulette with the only artist here i don't listen to  :rollin

 :lol

It's a beautiful thing.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: lonestar on December 31, 2021, 09:10:30 PM
Nice one... Glad not to finish in the cellar.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on December 31, 2021, 10:17:37 PM
Oh hey, Halloween did better than I thought! With your comments about the solos and the vocals I thought that would tank. :lol Really cool song, probably their most underrated.

This was a really fun roulette - some really questionable scores, but the discussions about the respective artists each round, and all the contestants coming together to shit on Tim's tastes really made up for it. :lol (it's all love)

Thanks for having me! Keep us updated on your dives into some of these artists!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: Lonk on December 31, 2021, 10:32:06 PM
Oh hey, Halloween did better than I thought! With your comments about the solos and the vocals I thought that would tank. :lol Really cool song, probably their most underrated.

This was a really fun roulette - some really questionable scores, but the discussions about the respective artists each round, and all the contestants coming together to shit on Tim's tastes really made up for it. :lol (it's all love)

Thanks for having me! Keep us updated on your dives into some of these artists!

I gained new appreciation for Halloween with the released of the instrumental version on Medium Rarities. Some really great guitar work going on there  :metal

I almost sent Fallen Torches but glad I didn't, given the score it got :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 01, 2022, 03:00:46 AM
Congrats to puppies and thanks to Tim for running this and letting me participate. It was a lot of good fun and I plan to listen to the playlists for the artists I don't know that well (BTBAM, C&C, Mastodon) too see if there's anything worth checking out.

And a happy New Year to everyone.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on January 01, 2022, 07:16:11 AM
Congrats to puppies and thanks to Tim for running this and letting me participate. It was a lot of good fun and I plan to listen to the playlists for the artists I don't know that well (BTBAM, C&C, Mastodon) too see if there's anything worth checking out.

And a happy New Year to everyone.

Thanks for playing Harry!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: romdrums on January 01, 2022, 10:07:42 AM
Congrats Puppies!! 

Stoked to see I finished in the top 5, and that you enjoyed nearly everything I sent, TAC.  Thanks for having me!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on January 01, 2022, 10:11:02 AM
Glad to have you, Aaron. Nice job too!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on January 01, 2022, 11:20:52 AM
Been trying to decipher who he thinks is who on vocals. I'm pretty sure he has Brann, the drummer, down as his Ozzy. I'm confused by the Nirvana reference. That's either Troy or Brent or both.  :lol

Of course, he threw a Nirvana reference on Fallen Torches and that has the usual guest spot from Scott Kelly on vocals.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on January 01, 2022, 11:33:46 AM
Who's Scott Kelly?



Yeah, the drummer is the Ozzy Guy. I saw that in the Motherload video.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on January 01, 2022, 11:39:44 AM
Lead singer of the band Neurosis. Mastodon have used him quite a bit in guest spots.

    Leviathan (on the track "Aqua Dementia") (2004)
    Blood Mountain (on the track "Crystal Skull") (2006)
    Crack the Skye (on the track "Crack the Skye") (2009)
    The Hunter (on the track "Spectrelight") (2011)
    Once More 'Round the Sun (on the track "Diamond in the Witch House") (2014)
    Emperor of Sand (on the track "Scorpion Breath") (2017)
    Medium Rarities (on the track "Fallen Torches") (2020)
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on January 01, 2022, 11:44:21 AM
Oh, ok. Got it.
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on January 01, 2022, 12:01:21 PM
Oh, ok. Got it.

Of course, I will be brutally honest, I never can tell where he is the vocalist. Pretty sure I confuse him with Troy. Brann and Brent are easy to pick out. Troy can sing so many different ways now, I struggle to differentiate him from Scott.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: LudwigVan on January 01, 2022, 03:16:21 PM
Came in smack dab in the the middle of the pack. This was fun. 

TAC can you rank the bands from top to bottom? Would that simply be based on the cumulative score for each band?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on January 01, 2022, 03:25:34 PM
Came in smack dab in the the middle of the pack. This was fun. 

So glad you played, Gord!!



TAC can you rank the bands from top to bottom? Would that simply be based on the cumulative score for each band?

I'll work on that tonight.


Off the top of my head, Devin Townsend and Opeth were the two best.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 01, 2022, 03:42:21 PM
Tim, so are you going to explore any of these bands more?
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on January 01, 2022, 03:53:54 PM
TAC can you rank the bands from top to bottom? Would that simply be based on the cumulative score for each band?

So by score, here's the list..

Opeth...8.27
C&C:8.0
Devin Townsend:8.0
Neal Morse:7.95
Mastodon: 7.9
Porcupine Tree:7.84
Haken:7.8
BTBAM:7.75


I admitted to scoring Mastodon a little high. I feel like I enjoyed the PT and Haken playlists more.





Tim, so are you going to explore any of these bands more?

Funny you should ask..

Today, I added a MAYH through Watershed to my iPod, as well as a bunch of Devin Townsend albums.

I definitely want to poke around some of the Neal Morse stuff as well as some C&C.

I would also like to give Colors II a legit run through.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: 425 on January 02, 2022, 10:31:29 PM
Cyril, thanks for playing. I appreciate it.
the highlight of this has to be me winning the round & getting my best score of the roulette with the only artist here i don't listen to  :rollin

Cyril and I are two sides of the same coin. :lol


I've been off of DTF over the weekend, so I'm just seeing these results. Wild as hell that I won the Mastodon round with my sophisticated strategy of "send the ones with the clean vocals." Tip of the hat to wolfking who sent me the ones with the clean vocals in the first place, among several other ones.

Congratulations to Puppies on a hard-fought victory! And thanks to TAC for running the roulette. I found the concept interesting and very fun to participate in, even in the rounds where I didn't know the artist. Glad to hear that you're planning to explore NM and C&C! :tup Opeth is cool too, but those are two artists I love.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: wolfking on January 03, 2022, 02:04:39 AM
Cyril, thanks for playing. I appreciate it.
the highlight of this has to be me winning the round & getting my best score of the roulette with the only artist here i don't listen to  :rollin

Cyril and I are two sides of the same coin. :lol


I've been off of DTF over the weekend, so I'm just seeing these results. Wild as hell that I won the Mastodon round with my sophisticated strategy of "send the ones with the clean vocals." Tip of the hat to wolfking who sent me the ones with the clean vocals in the first place, among several other ones.

Congratulations to Puppies on a hard-fought victory! And thanks to TAC for running the roulette. I found the concept interesting and very fun to participate in, even in the rounds where I didn't know the artist. Glad to hear that you're planning to explore NM and C&C! :tup Opeth is cool too, but those are two artists I love.

No problem mate!  :tup
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: Stadler on January 03, 2022, 07:49:06 AM
Tim, thanks for running this.  I thought it was fun (since I only really listen to two of the artists, and two others - Haken and Steven Wilson - I actively dislike).

Happy New Years!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing??
Post by: Evermind on January 03, 2022, 08:36:05 AM
I know in a number of rounds, some of you were winging it, but that's OK. I think Evermind was winging it in every round. :lol

What gave it away? :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on January 03, 2022, 09:21:23 AM
Tim, thanks for running this.  I thought it was fun (since I only really listen to two of the artists, and two others - Haken and Steven Wilson - I actively dislike).

Happy New Years!

Glad you could play!!!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: ariich on January 10, 2022, 01:46:36 AM
Sorry for taking ages to reply, haven't posted for a couple of weeks as have been pretty swamped, but anyway this roulette was great, thanks Tim!

Although dammit for coming so close! :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2022, 04:13:10 AM
Thought there might have been a surprise bonus round when I saw this bumped.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: 425 on January 10, 2022, 08:13:21 AM
The Winger round part 2
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on January 10, 2022, 04:41:16 PM
Sorry for taking ages to reply, haven't posted for a couple of weeks as have been pretty swamped, but anyway this roulette was great, thanks Tim!

Although dammit for coming so close! :lol


I just thought you were mad! :lol

I know about coming close. I've been runner-up more times than I care to recall.
I think to YOU twice! :lol


Seriously, I'd rather come in last!

Glad you played. I thought you were going to run away with it after posting two 9.0's in the first round. But Puppies never took his foot off the gas.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on January 10, 2022, 04:41:48 PM
The Winger round part 2


No. Fucking. Way! :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: HOF on January 10, 2022, 05:11:11 PM
The Winger round part 2


No. Fucking. Way! :lol

Sent!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on January 10, 2022, 05:30:33 PM
Is this just Winger or anything Kip Winger? Need to know before I send.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 10, 2022, 05:35:19 PM
It's a not rocking enough thing. Tim like his rock dirty, not pretty.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2022, 05:50:12 PM
Is this just Winger or anything Kip Winger? Need to know before I send.

Just send anything from the great man.

I'll send something tonight.  Just a few nice options.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on January 10, 2022, 06:23:55 PM
If one fucking Winger song shows up in my PM's, I'm gonna have Bosk throw you off of DTF!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on January 10, 2022, 06:32:18 PM
I think everyone needs to PM Tim a Winger song. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on January 10, 2022, 06:35:15 PM
I think Puppies needs to STFU. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on January 10, 2022, 06:42:50 PM
I think Puppies needs to STFU. :lol
:splodetard:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 10, 2022, 06:43:18 PM
I promise I won't PM you.


Doesn't mean I can't text you a song.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on January 10, 2022, 06:45:21 PM
I promise I won't PM you.


Doesn't mean I can't text you a song.
Just send it to him everywhere. Text, PM, facebook, twitter, instagram, myspace, fax, telegram, pony express, email, snail mail, sing it to him over the phone.... :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on January 10, 2022, 06:53:37 PM
I promise I won't PM you.


Doesn't mean I can't text you a song.
Just send it to him everywhere. Text, PM, facebook, twitter, instagram, myspace, fax, telegram, pony express, email, snail mail, sing it to him over the phone.... :biggrin:

That's a great idea actually. Everyone send it to me on Facebook.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 10, 2022, 07:21:42 PM
Crankshaft doesn't have a Facebook profile! :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on January 10, 2022, 07:28:06 PM
Use the Instagram then.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 10, 2022, 07:29:38 PM
Yeah buddy. You don't have that or Twitter either though I think you'd love Twitter for music and sports.
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: ariich on January 11, 2022, 01:18:59 AM
Sorry for taking ages to reply, haven't posted for a couple of weeks as have been pretty swamped, but anyway this roulette was great, thanks Tim!

Although dammit for coming so close! :lol


I just thought you were mad! :lol

:lol Something would have to go quite impressively wrong in a roulette for it to make me ragequit the whole forum for two weeks.

And yeah you've not quite come 2nd in any of my roulettes, but you have come 3rd (out of 18-22) in both of the last two, so close enough. I guess we can consider this your revenge. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: TAC on January 11, 2022, 03:59:04 AM
I meant that I think I’ve come in 2nd to you in other people’s roulettes.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: wolfking on January 11, 2022, 04:34:53 AM
Yeah buddy. You don't have that or Twitter either though I think you'd love Twitter for music and sports.

Tim isn't the only fogey with zero social media
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 11, 2022, 06:40:51 AM
Yeah buddy. You don't have that or Twitter either though I think you'd love Twitter for music and sports.

Tim isn't the only fogey with zero social media

I take more enjoyment in needling Tim then you Kade.   :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: Stadler on January 11, 2022, 06:50:39 AM
The Winger round part 2


No. Fucking. Way! :lol

Sent!

I'm in. SENT!
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: wolfking on January 11, 2022, 12:52:07 PM
Yeah buddy. You don't have that or Twitter either though I think you'd love Twitter for music and sports.

Tim isn't the only fogey with zero social media

I take more enjoyment in needling Tim then you Kade.   :lol

That's a nice compliment thanks Joe.  :tup
Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: romdrums on January 11, 2022, 01:11:33 PM
Crankshaft doesn't have a Facebook profile! :lol

Legit LOL'd at this one! :rollin :rollin

Title: Re: The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!
Post by: ariich on January 11, 2022, 01:43:48 PM
I meant that I think I’ve come in 2nd to you in other people’s roulettes.  :lol
Oh yeah, that too. :lol