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The TAC Rouette V.5 DTF Faves...WTF Am I Missing??
In this roulette, I am going to explore some of DTF's favorite artists, so I can find out what I'm missing. Convince me DTF!
I have sampled a number of these acts, and by that, maybe a song of two.
So, the Banned List is ...EVERYTHING..except the following 8 bands.
One band per round. Pick two songs and send them. Simple.
I'm going through my previous roulettes to ban what I've been sent before.
Round 1. Devin Townsend
Doesn't matter if it's released as DT, DTP, or I'll even allow Strapping Young Lad, as long as he's the vocalist.
Wrong Side and Earth Day are banned.
Round 2. Haken
Everything they have released is fair game.
Round 3. Between The Buried And Me
Everything up to and including The Great Misdirect is banned. Everything after TGM is fair game.
Round 4. Neal Morse
Everything he has released is fair game. You can send Spock's Beard as long as it's Neal on vocals.
Round 5. Coheed
Everything they have released is fair game.
Three Evils is banned.
Round 6. Opeth
Only albums banned are Ghost Reveries and Heritage.
Round 7. Porcupine Tree
You may send one SW solo song in liue of one PT song.
Deadwing is banned.
Round 8. Mastodon
Crack The Skye is banned.
I am banning instrumentals for ALL rounds!
Submitting...
Just PM me the name of the songs. Hopefully everything is on Spotify, and I can make a playlist. If not, I can figure it out.
The TAC Wild Card™...
ONCE during the roulette, you may use your Wild Card. So for one round, if you're torn between songs, you can send THREE songs, and I'll pick the best two. I will listen to each once, and eliminate one on the first listen.
Scoring...
I'll score each song separately and average the two.
If you want to play, but may not be familiar with every act, it's all random to me anyway, so you can just pick whatever!
IN.
1. Cyril
2. Romdrums
3. Kingshmegland
4. Lonestar
5. Wolfking
6. 425
7. Vmadera00
8. ProfessorPeart
9. Ariich
10. Buddyhunter
11. Puppies
12. Kwyjibo
13. HOF
14. Elite
15. LudwigVan
16. Stadler
17. Evermind.
Final Standings!!!
Puppies...8.60+8.15+8.25+8.35+8.20+8.35+7.95+7.60=65.45
Ariich...9.0+8.15+7.60+7.85+8.05+8.45+7.95+8.10=65.15
VMadera...8.45+7.35+7.95+8.30+8.60+8.20+7.95+8.20=65.00
Cyril...7.55+8.25+7.95+8.45+8.35+8.30+8.40+7.60=64.95
Romdrums...8.25+7.65+8.25+7.8+7.80+8.50+7.60+7.95=64.80
425...7.90+7.40+7.65+8.45+7.85+8.35+8.0+8.50=64.10
Wolfking...7.80+7.6+8.10+8.0+7.90+8.50+7.95+8.15=64.00
Professor...8.20+7.6+7.0+8.05+8.30+8.80+8.20+7.65=63.80
LudwigVan...8.35+7.55+7.35+7.90+8.30+8.45+7.75+7.65=63.50
Kingshmegland...7.70+8.25+7.85+7.85+8.20+7.90+7.50+8.00=63.25
Buddy...7.05+8.15+7.75+8.05+8.20+8.20+7.55+8.05=63.00
Kwyjibo...7.80+8.75+7.65+8.15+7.60+8.05+7.40+7.55=62.95
HOF...7.65+7.50+8.05+7.60+7.95+7.90+7.95+8.25=62.85
Elite...7.50+7.75+7.60+7.90+7.80+8.65+7.45+8.00=62.65
Lonestar...7.80+7.25+7.85+7.40+8.0+8.20+8.10+7.75=62.35
Stadler...8.50+7.75+7.35+7.55+7.85+7.85+7.50+8.00=62.35
Evermind...8.20+7.75+7.55+7.45+7.80+7.90+8.0+7.50=62.15
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In.
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In
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I have a submission!
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I have a submission!
Someone pulled a TAC?
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I don't know Haken, Neal Morse or Coheed.
I hate Haken though.
Might join and see if I can not come last in those rounds picking a random song I don't know. Or is that not allowed?
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Might join and see if I can not come last in those rounds picking a random song I don't know. Or is that not allowed?
You know what's allowed? Reading the OP! ;D
If you want to play, but may not be familiar with every act, it's all random to me anyway, so you can just pick whatever!
You're in!
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I need to learn to read OP's. Let's fucking go!
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Sure, I'll play this. I know all but two.
What are going to be the rules on sending the same song? First person to send gets it?
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What are going to be the rules on sending the same song? First person to send gets it?
I'll allow the same song. They'll just receive the same score.
Less writeups for me. ;D
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Never played a roulette but know all these bands.
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What are going to be the rules on sending the same song? First person to send gets it?
I'll allow the same song. They'll just receive the same score.
Less writeups for me. ;D
I might take a zero for the Haken round just so aren't subjected to an extra 2 Haken songs.
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Never played a roulette but know all these bands.
You just became my smokey to win this thing.
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Never played a roulette but know all these bands.
You're in!
What are going to be the rules on sending the same song? First person to send gets it?
I'll allow the same song. They'll just receive the same score.
Less writeups for me. ;D
I might take a zero for the Haken round just so aren't subjected to an extra 2 Haken songs.
You win the round on a technicality!
Never played a roulette but know all these bands.
You just became my smokey to win this thing.
Forget it, he's in! ;D
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can i skip the neal morse round because i don't like any of his music i'm game for the rest tho
also you're only asking for BTBAM post-their best albums so prepared to be underwhelmed :lol
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can i skip the neal morse round because i don't like any of his music i'm game for the rest tho
No you can't skip it. :lol
Dartboard two songs or have someone else pick them.
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Cyril, I'll pick you two Neal Morse songs if you pick me two BTBAM songs. :P
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also you're only asking for BTBAM post-their best albums so prepared to be underwhelmed :lol
I abandoned my BTBAM deep dive at TGM.
I've already been underwhelmed. :lol
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Guess I can pop my roulette cherry with TAC. BTBAM is the only band I don't really know. Otherwise, I am very well versed in everything else.
EDIT: Question on Hevy Devy, sometimes he has other people sing lead on his tracks. Do those count or are you looking only for those tracks that he sings on? This is stuff under the DTP brand, usually.
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also you're only asking for BTBAM post-their best albums so prepared to be underwhelmed :lol
I abandoned my BTBAM deep dive at TGM.
I've already been underwhelmed. :lol
I think you're in trouble then.
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Guess I can pop my roulette cherry with TAC. BTBAM is the only band I don't really know. Otherwise, I am very well versed in everything else.
EDIT: Question on Hevy Devy, sometimes he has other people sing lead on his tracks. Do those count or are you looking only for those tracks that he sings on? This is stuff under the DTP brand, usually.
AWESOME!!!
I'd want him on vocals.
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OH YOU BETTER LET ME IN OLD MAN!............... I mean, can I please participate, you magnificent beast. :biggrin:
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I would play just to make you listen an extra two* Neal Morse songs. Most of his stuff is not on Spotify, just so you know.
I'd have to get creative for most of the rest. My best chance would be sending you my least favorite thing by all of these anyway.
*ooh, wild card lets me do three!
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Sent!
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alright sent for every round except for round 4, which i'll find some random crap to send from soon ok
you are going to hate porcupine tree no matter what anyone sends you tho. i know your tastes well enough. they have made one song ever you'll like.
i'm assuming there's no problem if two people send the same songs, also. less crap for you to listen to :neverusethis:
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The interesting part of this roulette will be me being forced to send Opeth, Mastadon, and C&C, which I never got into, or in the case of Opeth I actively dislike most of what I've heard outside of Heritage.
Thank God you didn't have Leprous on the list, otherwise I'd have to pick stuff at random to avoid having to listen to Einar's simpering, whiny ass voice one more time.
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I’m in. I offer to curate submissions for any band except Neal Morse and Coheed. Maybe in exchange for a Neal Morse submission. :lol
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I'm happy to trade Neal Morse for either BTBAM or Mastodon.
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I ain't helping any of you bastards, go get screwed on your own time :neverusethis:
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I ain't helping any of you bastards, go get screwed on your own time :neverusethis:
:splodetard:
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This looks like fun. Can I still join?
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I'll definitely play, the only band I'll need to familiarise myself with a bit more is Coheed, the rest I'm quite comfortable with.
How will you approach two people sending the same thing? I.e. has Cyril already shotgunned songs by every band?
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I.e. has Cyril already shotgunned songs by every band?
(the answer is yes)
(but for all you know my picks are weird)
(but i'd be shocked if TAC doesn't allow doubling up yeah)
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(but i'd be shocked if TAC doesn't allow doubling up yeah)
Well yeah, I can't see how the roulette would work otherwise, but I wanted to check. :lol
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If you still need participants, I'm in.
Neal Morse will probably be a problem because most of his stuff isn't on spotify.
And he got a lot of really long epics, so with the wild card we could sent you 1,5 hours of Neal Morse for that round. :D
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How will you approach two people sending the same thing? I.e. has Cyril already shotgunned songs by every band?
Same way I approach two people asking the same question.
What are going to be the rules on sending the same song? First person to send gets it?
I'll allow the same song. They'll just receive the same score.
Less writeups for me. ;D
They’ll just receive the same answer.
Less typing for me. ;D
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Not sure how I missed that. :lol
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This looks like fun.
No it doesn’t. :lol
You’re in.
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Sadly, I think this is gonna be a pass for me. Devy and Morse are the only acts I like up there, and even at that I only know about 5-6 albums from their libraries. The rest ... I range from “meh” to actively disliking them.
How bout I take a zero for every round? I may just win if you use the Winger scoring system!
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I'll have to send in the morning now.
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What was I thinking???
This thread last night…
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…this thread this morning.
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Seemed like a good idea at the time…
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Let's all send The Grand Conjuration in the Opeth round.
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You know Tim, there should be a bonus round for Pain of Salvation. You forgot them as a "beloved" DTF band. Or Steven Wilson solo material. That ought to spruce things up! :lol
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Let's all send The Grand Conjuration in the Opeth round.
Well, shit. Ghost Reveries is banned :lol
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Sent round 1
And I have a feeling that this roulette will be a lot more fun for us participants than for Tim as the listener. ;D
Let's all send The Grand Conjuration in the Opeth round.
Well, shit. Ghost Reveries is banned :lol
We can still go with Eternal Soul Torture ;)
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Let's all send The Grand Conjuration in the Opeth round.
Well, shit. Ghost Reveries is banned :lol
Well, it wouldn't work anyway as he'd only listen to it once per listen-through, and then give each player the same score for it, rather than listening to it over and over again. So we should each send him a different song.
I'll go with Black Rose Immortal. :neverusethis:
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And I have a feeling that this roulette will be a lot more fun for us participants than for Tim as the listener. ;D
For sure! ;D
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Every write up better have WTF is this and WTF was that? :lol
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Every write up better have WTF is this and WTF was that? :lol
It’s in the title!
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Can I get in?
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Cool idea, will be reading the thread. Too lazy to send submissions and convince TAC at this point. ;D
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Can I get in?
Hell F’n YES!!!
It would my distinct privilege and honor to have you!!
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Maybe I should handle the gifpressions?
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Maybe I should handle the gifpressions?
(https://i.imgur.com/mTzxK0f.jpg)
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You're gonna get a lot of mileage out of that one, aren't you?
I'll have to seriously consider it... because it would then mean I have to listen to this crap. Devy and Neal I'd be ok with. The others ... I've seriously already given them their fair shot - Haken and PT especially.
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I'll pass. I can make do with Haken, Devin, PT (although Deadwing is my favourite at this point) and Opeth, but I don't like Mastodon, Coheed or BTBAM. Neal Morse is hit or miss with me so yeah, I'll skip this one.
Looking forward to see the write-ups though!
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You're gonna get a lot of mileage out of that one, aren't you?
(https://i.imgur.com/mTzxK0f.jpg)
;D ;D
I’ll retire it but I reserve the right to whip it out on special occasions.
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What? No Genesis round?
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SO you already have about 26 participants; can you take one more? But full disclosure, I'm in it for the same reasons as you. I don't like or don't get 3/4 of the bands on your list (I love Dev and Neal Morse, though) so I'm going to be exploring with you. But I'll listen to them and see if I can find something I like to send.
(And count me in on those that question no "PoS" or "Steven Wilson solo"; Wilson is like a God around here, and I find him boring, bland and (largely) a dick in interviews, so I wonder what's the what!)
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Sent.
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Sent!
Looking forward to judging everyone else profusely for their song picks. :corn
I went with a (largely) heavy direction, but I hope you get a wide variety of songs, including some quieter ones. One of the best things about Devin's catalog is its diversity.
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I'll pass. I can make do with Haken, Devin, PT (although Deadwing is my favourite at this point) and Opeth, but I don't like Mastodon, Coheed or BTBAM. Neal Morse is hit or miss with me so yeah, I'll skip this one.
Looking forward to see the write-ups though!
Throw two dice and pick track X from album X for any artist you don't know :neverusethis:
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What? No Genesis round?
Oh I thought about it.
Aren’t these rounds bad enough?
SO you already have about 26 participants; can you take one more? But full disclosure, I'm in it for the same reasons as you. I don't like or don't get 3/4 of the bands on your list (I love Dev and Neal Morse, though) so I'm going to be exploring with you. But I'll listen to them and see if I can find something I like to send.
(And count me in on those that question no "PoS" or "Steven Wilson solo"; Wilson is like a God around here, and I find him boring, bland and (largely) a dick in interviews, so I wonder what's the what!)
You’re in.
I honestly forgot about PoS.
I haven’t ruled out being able to send Steven Wilson solo in the PT round. Maybe a song from PT and one for SW.
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Ok. I think 16 is a good number of participants.
Let’s get some songs in!!
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Have sent!
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Have received unfortunately.
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You got mine too and you also already confirmed. Yay!
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Have received unfortunately.
You’re gonna have so much fun!
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You could do what you did for Devin Townsend and make the Porcupine Tree round just a Steven-Wilson-in-general round. Though I'm not sure what you'd be accomplishing there because PT is his best project and you'll probably hate everything else he's done even more. :lol
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Have received unfortunately.
You’re gonna have so much fun!
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It'll be interesting to see what the best strategy is for this. Send the best songs and get the same score as like 8 other people? Send unconventional choices and hope to end up ahead of the pack instead of behind it? Try to guess which are the TACiest songs for very non-TAC artists, or just go for what you think is best?
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Send the songs you think TAC will enjoy most :tup
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It'll be interesting to see what the best strategy is for this. Send the best songs and get the same score as like 8 other people? Send unconventional choices and hope to end up ahead of the pack instead of behind it? Try to guess which are the TACiest songs for very non-TAC artists, or just go for what you think is best?
Or send nothing, and win the whole roulette.
Send the songs you think TAC will enjoy most :tup
That's why I'm sending nothing!
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From TAC's list Devin Townsend is the only artist I haven't heard a single track in any iteration of him. I've heard one album of Coheed and haven't tried again. The rest are pretty dope.
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I'll pass. I can make do with Haken, Devin, PT (although Deadwing is my favourite at this point) and Opeth, but I don't like Mastodon, Coheed or BTBAM. Neal Morse is hit or miss with me so yeah, I'll skip this one.
Looking forward to see the write-ups though!
Throw two dice and pick track X from album X for any artist you don't know :neverusethis:
Good stuff. I'm in! :rollin
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Ok Ruslan.
That’s it though.
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I’ll retire it but I reserve the right to whip it out on special occasions.
I bet you say that to all the boys.
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Send the songs you think TAC will enjoy most :tup
But Iron Maiden isn't allowed
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if you made PT a PT/SW general round i'd probably change my submission because i can think of A steven wilson song you'd rather receive over the PT i sent
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if you made PT a PT/SW general round i'd probably change my submission because i can think of A steven wilson song you'd rather receive over the PT i sent
Probably leaning that way.
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BTW, the correct answer to your thread title is "nothing. Pretty much nothing".
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We could also turn this around and try to win by losing. Pick the most un-TAC tracks for every artist and go for the lowest score. Not to mention his commentary. :biggrin:
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We could also turn this around and try to win by losing. Pick the most un-TAC tracks for every artist and go for the lowest score. Not to mention his commentary. :biggrin:
Oh man, I would be curious to see TAC's reaction to songs like Collapse the Light Into Earth and Half-Light!
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We could also turn this around and try to win by losing. Pick the most un-TAC tracks for every artist and go for the lowest score. Not to mention his commentary. :biggrin:
Oh man, I would be curious to see TAC's reaction to songs like Collapse the Light Into Earth and Half-Light!
"Sucks and blows. 6/10"
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We could also turn this around and try to win by losing. Pick the most un-TAC tracks for every artist and go for the lowest score. Not to mention his commentary. :biggrin:
Oh man, I would be curious to see TAC's reaction to songs like Collapse the Light Into Earth and Half-Light!
"Sucks and blows. 6/10"
I think you forgot the minus part before the 6.
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Sent!
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We could also turn this around and try to win by losing. Pick the most un-TAC tracks for every artist and go for the lowest score. Not to mention his commentary. :biggrin:
Oh man, I would be curious to see TAC's reaction to songs like Collapse the Light Into Earth and Half-Light!
"Sucks and blows. 6/10"
I think you forgot the minus part before the 6.
So whoever is able to score slightly above zero wins this thing? :D
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Above zero? I expect all the scores to be negative, like in the Winger round.
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Alright! I'm home from work. Time to start rouletting.
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Alright! I'm home from work. Time to start rouletting.
I'll send in a couple of hours.
I'm realising even though I have a few of his albums, I really don't like his stuff at all. :lol
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I have 13 of the 17 submissions in.
Waiting on Stadler
Wolfking
Ariich
425
Listing not to shame, but just to double check in case I missed someone.
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You go to da box for 2 minutes, ya know, by yourself...you feel shame...and then you get free.
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Three people used Wild Cards. Yay, I get to eliminate three songs right away! ;D
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Sent.
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Tim, you really are gonna regret doing this. :lol
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Tim, you really are gonna regret doing this. :lol
Gonna? :lol
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Waiting on
Stadler
Wolfking
Ariich
425
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Sent!
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Waiting on
Stadler
Wolfking
Ariich
425
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<shining fisheye voice> 4 2 5
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Yeah I only really like BTBAM and Strapping Young Lad out of these. I might like Mastodon and some Devin solo stuff but haven't really gotten around to them.
Still, following.
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Listening through a bit of Haken. Fuck this band is awful. Tim might quit the forum with what he's about to put himself through.
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Listening through a bit of Haken. Fuck this band is awful. Tim might quit the forum with what he's about to put himself through.
Hah!
I only have a handful of Devin tracks left, but a lot of this is pretty decent.
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Listening through a bit of Haken. Fuck this band is awful. Tim might quit the forum with what he's about to put himself through.
Lol. What did you listen to?
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Listening through a bit of Haken. Fuck this band is awful. Tim might quit the forum with what he's about to put himself through.
Lol. What did you listen to?
Everything I'm sampling on Youtube blows hard. I just hate their sound, makes me want to puke.
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Alright, I slightly take that back. I found one song which is actually listenable.
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:lol
Now you need to find another. :lol
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pro-tip @wolf don't listen to anything haken put out after 2013
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pro-tip @wolf don't listen to anything haken put out after 2013
The only decent song I've found came out after that.
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:lol
Now you need to find another. :lol
Couldn't find one.
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Sent for round 2.
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Damn didn't see this thread yesterday :lol
I may have joined but then I don't care about Coheed and most of Opeth so, good luck folks :corn :corn :corn
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Sent for round 2.
Sent it back. ;D
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Sent for round 2.
Sent it back. ;D
Motherfucker!!
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I like enough Haken that they won’t be a problem. BTBAM and Coheed are gonna be tough for me.
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Me too.
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I should retrospectively knock 10 points of Kade's score from my last roulette for his terrible opinions on Haken. :P
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I should retrospectively knock 10 points of Kade's score from my last roulette for his terrible opinions on Haken. :P
I'll do it myself if it means I don't have to listen to them again!
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I should retrospectively knock 10 points of Kade's score from my last roulette for his terrible opinions on Haken. :P
I'll do it myself if it means I don't have to listen to them again!
TAC in training.
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<shining fisheye voice> 4 2 5
I'll get to it in the next couple of hours, okay?
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pro-tip @wolf don't listen to anything haken put out after 2013
The only decent song I've found came out after that.
Tragic
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Listening through a bit of Haken. Fuck this band is awful. Tim might quit the forum with what he's about to put himself through.
Lol. What did you listen to?
Everything I'm sampling on Youtube blows hard. I just hate their sound, makes me want to puke.
That's me with Leprous
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I forgot about Leprous. I've actually given them some extended listening.
One band that I was considering was Nightwish.
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One band that I was considering was Nightwish.
i'm very glad you didn't consider them harder
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I would have managed fine if Once was allowed but that's the only album of theirs I actually like.
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I forgot about Leprous. I've actually given them some extended listening.
One band that I was considering was Nightwish.
This would have been favorable for me. Oh well.
Sent.
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Wait, Tim is Arnie and I'm Devito??
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He is running the roulette soooooo...
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Listening through a bit of Haken. Fuck this band is awful. Tim might quit the forum with what he's about to put himself through.
Lol. What did you listen to?
Everything I'm sampling on Youtube blows hard. I just hate their sound, makes me want to puke.
That's me with Leprous
Pretty much the same feelings with them too. They are better than Haken though.
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He is running the roulette soooooo...
I am 6'2" though haha!
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Leprous and Haken were both very good for a few albums then got boring later imo
New-Haken is better than New-Leprous overall but not by much
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Tim, you are an evil genius ... making people listen to music they hate. Although, you're subjecting yourself to it as well.
Devy had some gems throughout his library - I actually ended up buying 4-5 albums when the discography discussion thread was going in with him. There's a limit to how much 'wall-of-sound' one can take, but in some amounts of moderation, it's pretty good.
Best of luck to you listening to 17 tracks a day of him for a week. Sounds like torture to me. :lol
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Best of luck to you listening to 17 tracks a day of him for a week. Sounds like torture to me. :lol
could be up to 34, actually :neverusethis:
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Wait, Tim is Arnie and I'm Devito??
I'm an expert at rest and recovery!
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Tim, you are an evil genius ... making people listen to music they hate. Although, you're subjecting yourself to it as well.
Devy had some gems throughout his library - I actually ended up buying 4-5 albums when the discography discussion thread was going in with him. There's a limit to how much 'wall-of-sound' one can take, but in some amounts of moderation, it's pretty good.
Best of luck to you listening to 17 tracks a day of him for a week. Sounds like torture to me. :lol
Well, it's 29 tracks. I'll break out some stats in a bit.
Seems every youtube video I ever checked out of his was a wall of sound. There is some wall of sound present, but not nearly as much as expected. This playlist has a ton of variety.
425 just sent added 17 fucking minutes to the playlist.
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He is running the roulette soooooo...
I am 6'2" though haha!
Also, he said he hated Haken 1st. Lol
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I have made to amendments to the OP.
For Round 7, I have made it a Porcupine Tree/Steven Wilson round.
Send me on PT and one SW song.
Also, Instrumentals are barred in all rounds.
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He is running the roulette soooooo...
I am 6'2" though haha!
A strapping young lad!
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425 just sent added 17 fucking minutes to the playlist.
Sorry :angel:
I'll be nice on the Neal Morse round and not send an epic.
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425 just sent added 17 fucking minutes to the playlist.
Sorry :angel:
I'll be nice on the Neal Morse round and not send an epic.
I've already been threatened with that by someone else, and I told Stadler to forget it.
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Screw you buddy. Full on epics. ;D
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Full on zeros!
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Screw you buddy. Full on epics. ;D
World Without End (33:39)
Beyond the Borders (31:23)
Easy -10/10
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Your negative score will be beyond the borders and without end.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/fykZSKDD/Twins1988.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Wait, Tim is Arnie and I'm Devito??
I'm an expert at rest and recovery!
He is running the roulette soooooo...
I am 6'2" though haha!
A strapping young lad!
Ha! You win!
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:lol
Remember you need me bub. Lolol
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Your negative score will be beyond the borders and without end.
:lol
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:rollin
Ahhh, Tim's roulettes are always a good time........At least for the participants...
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Round 1 Stats!
29 songs
3 hours
3 songs.. Strapping Young Lad
15...Devin Townsend Project
4...Devin Townsend Band
7...Devin Townsend
3 people used their Wild Cards
It was pretty easy to eliminate one song
2 people used live versions of a couple of songs that two other people used the studio versions
One of them enhanced the song and one of them didn't.
1 song was sent by three different people
There were a handful of songs sent by two people.
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I'm going to guess that Deadhead was sent by 3 people. And it's also the song that someone sent the live version. Maybe
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Speaking of live versions, I meant to ask last night if you were cool with receiving live versions. Oh well...
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I suck at reading. Was thinking Deadhead was banned but it's Earth Day.
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I'm surprised only 3 SYL songs.
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I'm surprised only 3 SYL songs.
If I had to guess, I suspect someone sent Almost Again.
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I suck at reading. Was thinking Deadhead was banned but it's Earth Day.
Earth Day might've been one of the worst songs sent in that roulette. :lol
I'm going to guess that Deadhead was sent by 3 people. And it's also the song that someone sent the live version. Maybe
No and no. It was sent by two people however.
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If you guys want a hangman, I can do it, but I'm not doing it until I get home from work tomorrow....2:30pm Boston time.
I suspect the songs would be easy to figure out.
I can post First Impressions though.
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If you guys want a hangman, I can do it, but I'm not doing it until I get home from work tomorrow....2:30pm Boston time.
I suspect the songs would be easy to figure out.
I can post First Impressions though.
What about this. How many songs 34? We all collate on 34 guesses of songs and see how many we can pick. See how well we know each other.
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Cause, this is my roulette, no?
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Cause, this is my roulette, no?
You can have it! :lol
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What about this. How many songs 34?
Round 1 Stats!
29 songs
;D
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Ok, I'll shutup now!! :lol
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I have made to amendments to the OP.
Also, Instrumentals are barred in all rounds.
That’s a shame. Haken are better without the vocals.
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I know that. You know that.
Every band in this roulette is better without vocals.
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i mean it'd be pretty easy to solve a single-artist hangman given just a few letters tbh but you can try it :P
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I know that. You know that.
Every band in this roulette is better without vocals.
Legit question: Do both Neal Morse songs have to have him on lead vocals? There are a few songs on the Neal Morse Band albums where other band members sing, but not him, and some where he sings harmony but no leads.
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Can we send Transatlantic for Morse? Asking for 15 friends.
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I know that. You know that.
Every band in this roulette is better without vocals.
Legit question: Do both Neal Morse songs have to have him on lead vocals? There are a few songs on the Neal Morse Band albums where other band members sing, but not him (and some where he sings harmony but no leads).
Yes. They must have Neal on vocals. That is kind of the whole point. :)
Please don't tell me MP is singing.. :lol
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Can we send Transatlantic for Morse? Asking for 15 friends.
Tell your 15 friends that there's no Transatlantic round, so no. ;D
Neal Morse or Neal Morse Band only. With Neil singing.
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MP does occasional leads, but two of the other band members do more substantial leads than MP. I guess a follow-up would be how much of the song he has to sing (there are a lot of songs, for example, where somebody else sings the verse and he does the chorus), but I imagine it's "a significant amount" and I should just use my best judgment.
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oh yeah if transatlantic is allowed then i don't have to do research :metal (i don't think TAC would like much transatlantic based on what i'm familiar with but still :2metal:)
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MP does occasional leads, but two of the other band members do more substantial leads than MP. I guess a follow-up would be how much of the song he has to sing (there are a lot of songs, for example, where somebody else sings the verse and he does the chorus), but I imagine it's "a significant amount" and I should just use my best judgment.
I'd prefer him singing most of the song. I'm trying to learn about Neal Morse. 75% Neal at a minimum.
oh yeah if transatlantic is allowed then i don't have to do research :metal (i don't think TAC would like much transatlantic based on what i'm familiar with but still :2metal:)
Transatlantic is not allowed, so plan on that research. ;D
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Can we send Transatlantic for Morse? Asking for 15 friends.
Tell your 15 friends that there's no Transatlantic round, so no. ;D
Neal Morse or Neal Morse Band only. With Neil singing.
Ok, I was just asking since you're allowing Spocks....but it's your roulette jefe. Off to randomly pick two NMB songs since I don't know shit about his discography.
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Did you just call me Jeffy?
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TAC you didn’t have to make one solo Steven Wilson song a requirement… I can already tell you’re gonna regret that. :lol
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TAC you didn’t have to make one solo Steven Wilson song a requirement… I can already tell you’re gonna regret that. :lol
I'm regretting it either way. :lol
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Did you just call me Jeffy?
Nah, this is a topic for a different thread :biggrin:
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The Family Circus Thread?
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Yikes. That PT/SW curveball is a real problem. I never would have dreamed of sending solo SW. Was just going through my stuff and the best song that I could find (that would probably get the least hate) is an instrumental, which are banned. You are really going to hate that round.
Otherwise, I think I just have Opeth, Mastodon and NM to curate. Everything else is good to go. Killing my favorite Mastodon album (CTS) bummed me out. Plus, I think I saw you mention that you thought all the vocals were terrible regarding Hushed and Grim. Really encouraging, as that is the best I think all 3 have sounded vocally. Brann has been pretty stable. Troy has really improved, especially if you listen to his work in Gone Is Gone and Killer Be Killed. Brent has always sounded like he was trying to gargle water while singing, except for the new album where I thought he actually sounded pretty good.
Oof.
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Yeah, Tim is a sucker for pain taking out PT and replacing with SW.
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The only solo SW album I particularly like has almost all long songs so... I'm either sending The Pin Drop or just going for maximum suffering.
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I don't want to listen through SW songs to try and pick something. Haken this morning was traumatic enough.
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Am I the only one in this entire roulette who has absolutely no problem picking out two songs for every single artist in the OP? :lol
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Ok. So how about this? You may send one SW song in lieu of a PT song. If you want to send TWO PT songs, that is fine.
OP has been updated.
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Tim, that is a smart, smart move.
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Tim, that is a smart, smart move.
SmartER
Nothing about this roulette is smart.
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Am I the only one in this entire roulette who has absolutely no problem picking out two songs for every single artist in the OP? :lol
I have no issue with picking songs from each artist. Though to be honest, I am trying to stay away from songs I believe others will send as well, we will see how I do :)
Question, when do we send songs for each round? is it weekly? (Sorry, first time playing)
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I've sent my Devin and Neal Morse, and everything after that is going to be torture. I have no real like for any of the other bands and will embark on a similar journey to my man Tim, hoping to find two songs I like enough to share. Not holding my breath.
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I've sent my Devin and Neal Morse, and everything after that is going to be torture. I have no real like for any of the other bands and will embark on a similar journey to my man Tim, hoping to find two songs I like enough to share. Not holding my breath.
And herein lies the evil genius of TAC. So genius in fact, he outsmarted himself.
Ya'll enjoy that torture. This is gonna be a common reaction / facial expression on many of you for the rest of the year
(http://replygif.net/i/1300.gif)
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I like Devin Townsend, Haken, Neal Morse, Opeth and Porcupine Tree, I like at least one record from Mastodon that isn't banned, I've listened to some BTBAM, it didn't leave an inpression but I didn't hate it either. I know nothing from Coheed, may have heard a song here or there but don't remember a thing.
I'm pretty sure I won't be tortured. :D
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Am I the only one in this entire roulette who has absolutely no problem picking out two songs for every single artist in the OP? :lol
I have no issue with picking songs from each artist. Though to be honest, I am trying to stay away from songs I believe others will send as well, we will see how I do :)
Question, when do we send songs for each round? is it weekly? (Sorry, first time playing)
You can send whenever you’re comfortable with your choices.
I am planning to have results on Fridays so if you could send for the following round no later than Monday of the following week.
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Can we send Transatlantic for Morse? Asking for 15 friends.
Tell your 15 friends that there's no Transatlantic round, so no. ;D
Neal Morse or Neal Morse Band only. With Neil singing.
Um. I was going to roll the dice for Neal Morse, how am I supposed to know if it's Neal singing? :lol
Guess I'll ask you guys here since it wouldn't do to use Google in Tim's roulette.
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Can we send Transatlantic for Morse? Asking for 15 friends.
Tell your 15 friends that there's no Transatlantic round, so no. ;D
Neal Morse or Neal Morse Band only. With Neil singing.
Um. I was going to roll the dice for Neal Morse, how am I supposed to know if it's Neal singing? :lol
Guess I'll ask you guys here since it wouldn't do to use Google in Tim's roulette.
If it’s Neal Morse solo it’s going to be him singing (there are a few guest spots here and there I suppose). He has a pretty distinctive voice so once you’ve heard it you’ll know it’s him.
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I love all the bands, except for BTBAM whom I just don't know, so picking 2 songs would normally be easy. The problem is putting myself in Tim's headspace. Would he say this song sucks or blows or sucks and blows and which would be more preferable to him?
Like with Devin, I purposely avoided wall of sound songs since I had a feeling he would not like those. I am also trying to avoid 'popular' songs for an artist to avoid overlap, yet still trying to find something that he won't completely carpet bomb. Certainly adds some thought to the process.
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Can we send Transatlantic for Morse? Asking for 15 friends.
Tell your 15 friends that there's no Transatlantic round, so no. ;D
Neal Morse or Neal Morse Band only. With Neil singing.
Um. I was going to roll the dice for Neal Morse, how am I supposed to know if it's Neal singing? :lol
Guess I'll ask you guys here since it wouldn't do to use Google in Tim's roulette.
You can PM me if you want. Neal solo is going to be him singing unless it's an instrumental. Neal Morse Band it's more complicated, and a lot of songs might not hit this 75% threshold, so if you're trying to take the easy way, stick with Neal solo.
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I don't want to roll a d6 so I'm definitely including NMB!
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I've sent my Devin and Neal Morse, and everything after that is going to be torture. I have no real like for any of the other bands and will embark on a similar journey to my man Tim, hoping to find two songs I like enough to share. Not holding my breath.
And herein lies the evil genius of TAC. So genius in fact, he outsmarted himself.
Ya'll enjoy that torture. This is gonna be a common reaction / facial expression on many of you for the rest of the year
(http://replygif.net/i/1300.gif)
Actually none of this I actively dislike completely. I enjoy the latter Opeth, C&C is cool from what I've heard, no issues with either NM or Mastodon. I just don't know any of their material very well
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Round 1 Solved Hangman!
Lonestar
Supercrush!
Addicted!
Kingshmegland
Stormbending
Where We Belong
Vmadera00
Kingdom
Life
Romdrums
Almost Again
Kingdom(Live)
Kwyjibo
Funeral
Planet Smasher
HOF
Life
Funeral
Buddy
Addicted!
Skesis
Puppies
Deadhead
Failure
Cyril
Stand
Sumeria
Elite
Poltergeist
Regulator
LudwigVan
Deadhead
Traveller
Evermind
Failure
March Of The Poozers
Professor Peart
Suicide
Deep Peace
Wolfking
Poltergeist
Love?
Stadler
Deep Peace (Live)
Bend It Like Bender!
Ariich
Vampira
Failure
425
Higher
From The Heart
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Will post some First Impressions shortly.
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i see two Funeral submissions and like
you're not wrong, but also, that's a bold pick for TAC :lol
also i was right to use my wildcard 'cause I was pretty unsure about Angel for you in particular lol
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I was pretty unsure about it too. ;D
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i see two Funeral submissions and like
you're not wrong, but also, that's a bold pick for TAC :lol
also i was right to use my wildcard 'cause I was pretty unsure about Angel for you in particular lol
Heh, I have no idea what TAC likes other than it’s usually the opposite of what I like. I listened to Ocean Machine the other morning for the first time and picked out what seemed to be the two strongest songs. Will not be surprised by a low score!
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also failure being the song sent three times is interesting alright
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Not surprised someone else submitted Kingdom. Life I was not expecting someone else to submit.
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Alright, time to shit talk everyone's submission.
Lonestar: Nice. I sent Addicted as well and that's one of my all-time favorites of his, so good job. :metal I find Supercrush to be a tad overrated and I wouldn't have sent two songs from the same album, but it's still a good song so you get a pass.
King: Stormbending is a nice pick; that's my favorite from Transcendence. Where We Belong is good too, but out of his entire discography... meh. At least TAC is getting more poppy songs which he probably won't like. :lol
Vmadera: Kingdom's extremely predictable, but TAC had to get it from at least someone. Life.... nah, he has better songs like that.
Romdrums: TAC might like Almost Again, but I've never been too into it myself. Kingdom again, no surprise there. Moving along.
Kwyjibo: Planet Smasher is a bizarre choice but Funeral is amazing so you're forgiven. Too bad TAC probably won't like it.
HOF: See above.
Buddy: No problems here! :metal :metal :metal :neverusethis:
Puppies: Two real slow-paced numbers here... is TAC going to stay awake through both of these? :biggrin: Both good songs, but I wouldn't have even considered Failure out of his entire discography.
Cyril: Two Deconstruction songs? Yeah, that checks out.
Elite: Both fine songs, but TAC will think Poltergeist is too heavy and Regulator is too boring. :lol
Ludwig: Traveller has a great chorus but that song has always felt borderline unfinished to me. To channel TAC a bit, the verse kinda blows.
Evermind: Poozers is a good pick, but multiple people sent Failure? Why tho?
Prof Peart: Suicide is an unexpected but solid pick. Deep Peace is a nice contrast too.
Wolfking: Not sure if TAC will be able to handle this, but props for trying. ;D
Stadler: Called Deep Peace. Figured Secret Sciences would be the other one. I do like me some Bend It Like Bender though.
Ariich: THREE people sent Failure? What the fuck.
425: Higher is okay but From The Heart? This ain't it, chief.
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also failure being the song sent three times is interesting alright
Definitely, and I'm one of those who sent it. I honestly had no clue whether my picks would be typical or unique.
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honestly surprised nobody else sent any of the three songs i did
y'all sending TAC this slow pretty stuff are weird. hence why the PT round is gonna be a disaster :lol
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Excellent analysis Buddy! :lol
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Excellent analysis Buddy! :lol
Alright, time for round 2!
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With those submissions, I should've gone with All Hail the New Flesh and Oh My Fucking God. :metal
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So what I'm going to do is First Impressions for one song from each guy.
You'll notice there's only 12 Impressions for 17 players, but that's because there's some repeats.
I'm sorry if some of these are vague. I'll do it Ariich style where if you can pick two and one is yours, I'll give it to you.
This was actually pretty nice to start but damn it lingers
I was finding the song a bit slow going, but the instrumental passage to close the song is outstanding.
It’s Deaf Forever’s riff. Nice poppy track.
Really nice. Excellent chorus. Cool guitar. Nice.
Cool driving rhythms. Frenetic pace to this.
Wow, that’s a powerful song, but it does test your patience.
Was thinking this was a bit wanky but that guitar solo is nails.
Decent enough tune. Will it stand out?
Really strong vocals for the early verses. This song is really thick, but good.
This is the Keep It In The Family riff! Driving track for sure.
Nice enough but not very exciting, though it “grands up” for the second half.
This isn’t the Rush Round.
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Cool driving rhythms. Frenetic pace to this.
Wow, that’s a powerful song, but it does test your patience.
The first is Almost Again, and the second is Kingdom.
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honestly surprised nobody else sent any of the three songs i did
y'all sending TAC this slow pretty stuff are weird. hence why the PT round is gonna be a disaster :lol
yeah, that's why you me had the same idea to go with Deconstruction tunes. That said, Stand is pretty 'slow' as well. I almost send Pandemic :lol
Good call, wolfdude, on Poltergeist as well :metardica: at least I have an unique song in Regulator, which I love personally, so TAC can hate it if he wants.
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This has to be me. Lol
This isn’t the Rush Round
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Kwyjibo: Planet Smasher is a bizarre choice but Funeral is amazing so you're forgiven. Too bad TAC probably won't like it.
I really like Ziltoid and if you skip the intro, Plant Smasher is a smasher of a metal song. :metal
And because of my wild card TAC chose this over Regulator. So let's see how that works out for Elite. :D
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That said, Stand is pretty 'slow' as well. I almost send Pandemic :lol
stand is "slow" in a "march" sort of way where the riffs are still gonna kick your teeth out anyways
it's certainly not "pretty" lol
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That said, Stand is pretty 'slow' as well. I almost send Pandemic :lol
stand is "slow" in a "march" sort of way where the riffs are still gonna kick your teeth out anyways
it's certainly not "pretty" lol
I wouldn't call Failure pretty either, but it is slow and kind of brooding (but also kind of epic, which was why I thought Tim might rather like it).
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I'm hoping mine is one of these:
Really strong vocals for the early verses. This song is really thick, but good.
Nice enough but not very exciting, though it “grands up” for the second half.
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I'm hoping mine is one of these:
Really strong vocals for the early verses. This song is really thick, but good.
Nice enough but not very exciting, though it “grands up” for the second half.
No. You should be ashamed. For you, I couldn't make it more obvious. Listen to it again!
This has to be me. Lol
This isn’t the Rush Round
You wish.
Cool driving rhythms. Frenetic pace to this.
Wow, that’s a powerful song, but it does test your patience.
The first is Almost Again, and the second is Kingdom.
No and No.
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Powerful song that tests your patience?
or
Decent enough tune, will it stand out?
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No. ;D
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Wow. This is like a giant cock tease.
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Wow. TAC is like a giant cock tease.
FTFY :lol
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Wow. This is like a giant cock tease.
Correct! But that's definitely not one of the impressions. :lol
Let me help three of you..
This was actually pretty nice to start but damn it lingers
I was finding the song a bit slow going, but the instrumental passage to close the song is outstanding.
It’s Deaf Forever’s riff. Nice poppy track.
Really nice. Excellent chorus. Cool guitar. Nice. [Failure-Puppies, Ariich, Evermind]
Cool driving rhythms. Frenetic pace to this.
Wow, that’s a powerful song, but it does test your patience.
Was thinking this was a bit wanky but that guitar solo is nails.
Decent enough tune. Will it stand out?
Really strong vocals for the early verses. This song is really thick, but good.
This is the Keep It In The Family riff! Driving track for sure.[Addicted!-Buddy, Lonestar]
Nice enough but not very exciting, though it “grands up” for the second half.
This isn’t the Rush Round.
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huh. guess the failure-inators were right :lol
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Let me help a little more.
The songs in this group are:
Bend It Like Bender!
Failure
Poltergeist
Almost Again
Kingdom
Where We Belong
Traveller
Funeral
From The Heart.
Stand
Deep Peace
Addicted!
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huh. guess the failure-inators were right :lol
perhaps we are the failures
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It’s Deaf Forever’s riff. Nice poppy track.
This is the Keep It In The Family riff! Driving track for sure.
One of these is probably Addicted. I dunno what either of those riffs are. :biggrin:
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i looked up the two songs, pretty sure Stand is the "Keep It In The Family" riff
Deaf Forever I could see being a few of the addicted tracks tbh it definitely correlates
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It’s Deaf Forever’s riff. Nice poppy track.
This is the Keep It In The Family riff! Driving track for sure.
One of these is probably Addicted. I dunno what either of those riffs are. :biggrin:
Keep It In The Family is an Anthrax song. And YES!
Deaf Forever is Motorhead.
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honestly surprised nobody else sent any of the three songs i did
y'all sending TAC this slow pretty stuff are weird. hence why the PT round is gonna be a disaster :lol
yeah, that's why you me had the same idea to go with Deconstruction tunes. That said, Stand is pretty 'slow' as well. I almost send Pandemic :lol
Good call, wolfdude, on Poltergeist as well :metardica: at least I have an unique song in Regulator, which I love personally, so TAC can hate it if he wants.
Yeah, Poltergeist is excellent.
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The test your patience one?
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The test your patience one?
NO ;D
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All of the impressions are about Failure
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No more guesses??
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Fuck dude some of us are working. :lol
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This was actually pretty nice to start but damn it lingers - Almost Again
I was finding the song a bit slow going, but the instrumental passage to close the song is outstanding. - From The Heart
It’s Deaf Forever’s riff. Nice poppy track. - Bender
Cool driving rhythms. Frenetic pace to this. - Poltergeist
Wow, that’s a powerful song, but it does test your patience. - Funeral
Was thinking this was a bit wanky but that guitar solo is nails. - Deep Peace
Decent enough tune. Will it stand out? - Where We Belong
Really strong vocals for the early verses. This song is really thick, but good. - Kingdom
Nice enough but not very exciting, though it “grands up” for the second half. - Stand
This isn’t the Rush Round. - Traveller
how'd I do
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Either the driving rhythms or the one about being thick.
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I was finding the song a bit slow going, but the instrumental passage to close the song is outstanding. - From The Heart
It’s Deaf Forever’s riff. Nice poppy track. - Bender
Cool driving rhythms. Frenetic pace to this. - Poltergeist
Wow, that’s a powerful song, but it does test your patience. - Funeral
Was thinking this was a bit wanky but that guitar solo is nails. - Deep Peace
Really strong vocals for the early verses. This song is really thick, but good. - Kingdom
This isn’t the Rush Round. - Traveller
how'd I do
Pretty damned good!
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I was finding the song a bit slow going, but the instrumental passage to close the song is outstanding.[From The Heart-425]
It’s Deaf Forever’s riff. Nice poppy track. (Bend It Like Bender-Stadler]
Really nice. Excellent chorus. Cool guitar. Nice.[Failure-Puppies, Ariich, Evermind]
Cool driving rhythms. Frenetic pace to this.[Poltergeist-Elite, Wolfking]
Was thinking this was a bit wanky but that guitar solo is nails. [Deep Peace-Professor Peart]
Really strong vocals for the early verses. This song is really thick, but good.[Kingdom-VMadera]
This is the Keep It In The Family riff! Driving track for sure.[Addicted!-Buddy, Lonestar]
This isn’t the Rush Round. [Traveller-LudwigVan]
Wow, that’s a powerful song, but it does test your patience.
Decent enough tune. Will it stand out?
Nice enough but not very exciting, though it “grands up” for the second half.
This was actually pretty nice to start but damn it lingers
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Decent enough tune. Will it stand out?
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No..
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:censored
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The funny thing about this round is I initially had about 30 songs on my list to potentially send. Then I used my wildcard. The song that was chucked was Bastard. I'm a little surprised no one else sent that.
I agree Funeral is kind of a weird pick for TAC, but who knows...
Vampira is a cool pick, although it might be a bit too crazy for TAC.
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I'd be surprised if Tim likes Vampira.
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Guess I should have sent The Mighty Masterbator.
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Vampira is a cool pick, although it might be a bit too crazy for TAC.
I'd be surprised if Tim likes Vampira.
:corn
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I've sent my Devin and Neal Morse, and everything after that is going to be torture. I have no real like for any of the other bands and will embark on a similar journey to my man Tim, hoping to find two songs I like enough to share. Not holding my breath.
And herein lies the evil genius of TAC. So genius in fact, he outsmarted himself.
Ya'll enjoy that torture. This is gonna be a common reaction / facial expression on many of you for the rest of the year
(http://replygif.net/i/1300.gif)
You could've played too!
(https://adhdembrace.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/121107584-1536x864.jpg)
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:lol
Bugger, I literally thought Chad signed up for this. A shame.
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Chad in this thread.
(https://i.postimg.cc/sft8wc12/TMS-Statler-Waldorf-Balcony-Box.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Chad in this thread.
(https://i.postimg.cc/sft8wc12/TMS-Statler-Waldorf-Balcony-Box.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
#fact
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Chad in this thread.
(https://i.postimg.cc/sft8wc12/TMS-Statler-Waldorf-Balcony-Box.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Chadler!
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Guess I should have sent The Mighty Masterbator.
You should have. Great song.
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(https://i.imgflip.com/5tlztr.jpg)
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Masta Don? That's racist!
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Here are the first set of First Impressions. I'll post the second set first thing in the morning.
I was finding the song a bit slow going, but the instrumental passage to close the song is outstanding.[From The Heart-425]
It’s Deaf Forever’s riff. Nice poppy track. (Bend It Like Bender-Stadler]
Really nice. Excellent chorus. Cool guitar. Nice.[Failure-Puppies, Ariich, Evermind]
Cool driving rhythms. Frenetic pace to this.[Poltergeist-Elite, Wolfking]
Was thinking this was a bit wanky but that guitar solo is nails. [Deep Peace-Professor Peart]
Really strong vocals for the early verses. This song is really thick, but good.[Kingdom-VMadera]
This is the Keep It In The Family riff! Driving track for sure.[Addicted!-Buddy, Lonestar]
This isn’t the Rush Round. [Traveller-LudwigVan]
Wow, that’s a powerful song, but it does test your patience.[Stand-Cyril]
Decent enough tune. Will it stand out?[Almost Again-Romdrums]
Nice enough but not very exciting, though it “grands up” for the second half.[Where We Belong-Kingshmegland]
This was actually pretty nice to start but damn it lingers[Funeral-Kwyjibo, HOF]
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Mastadon!! :rollin
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Mastadon!! :rollin
http://relentlessbeats.com/artists/mastadon/
Yikes! He wants us to send dub-step?!?!?!?
I'm out. Can't listen to that.
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Vampira is a cool pick, although it might be a bit too crazy for TAC.
I'd be surprised if Tim likes Vampira.
:corn
It's from the more fun side of his metal music, but I don't think it's that crazy (compared to things like Bad Devil or a lot of Deconstruction). Quite a driving song with cool riffs and great hooks.
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Vampira is a great song, it was on my list of songs to send.
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Vampira is a cool pick, although it might be a bit too crazy for TAC.
I'd be surprised if Tim likes Vampira.
:corn
Fair play lads. I'm guessing this response from Tim means I'm wrong.
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Mastadon!! :rollin
http://relentlessbeats.com/artists/mastadon/
Yikes! He wants us to send dub-step?!?!?!?
I'm out. Can't listen to that.
Bonus round!
Vampira is a cool pick, although it might be a bit too crazy for TAC.
I'd be surprised if Tim likes Vampira.
:corn
Fair play lads. I'm guessing this response from Tim means I'm wrong.
This response means I'm eating popcorn.
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OK, here's the second grouping of First Impressions..
Skesis
Vampira
Higher
Supercrush!
Life
Stormbending
Planet Smasher
Deadhead
Sumeria
March Of The Poozers
Suicide
Love?
Not sure the Live version really adds much but it’s still cool.[Kingdom (Live)-Romdrums]
Really cool rhythm guitar to start. Quite a bit of variety for a song this length.
Kind of hectic, even a bit monotonous. Nice drum patterns near the end.
The chorus is the best part of this, Love the ending too..
Great opening guitar! Not a fan of Mid Tempo, but it works here.
Sounds like from a play or something. Almost choral in parts.
Driving tune with a steady beat. Might be too driving and too steady though.[Regulator-Elite]
The first half was amazing, almost Styx-ish, but it peters out by the end.
A very nice and simple tune. A nice change from the noise. But is it good enough?
Feels like there should be some animation to go with this.
This song is some heavy duty shit. Deep track that will need more listens.
My name is mud. Not to be confused with Bill or Jack or Steve
Totally enhances the studio version[Deep Peace (Live)-Stadler]
Love the vocals in this song. Really cool rhythm guitars too.
My first impression is that you cannot give a first impression with just one listen. This song is loaded.
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Not sure the Live version really adds much but it’s still cool.
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It’s Deaf Forever’s riff. Nice poppy track.
This is the Keep It In The Family riff! Driving track for sure.
One of these is probably Addicted. I dunno what either of those riffs are. :biggrin:
Keep It In The Family is an Anthrax song. And YES!
Deaf Forever is Motorhead.
Yeah, I should have gotten that one. I had "Riot" in my head, though, and I couldn't connect it.
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Not sure the Live version really adds much but it’s still cool.
Wrong, but then that makes them obvious...
Updated.
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The chorus is the best part of this, Love the ending too..
Driving tune with a steady beat. Might be too driving and too steady though.
Love the vocals in this song. Really cool rhythm guitars too.
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The chorus is the best part of this, Love the ending too..
Driving tune with a steady beat. Might be too driving and too steady though.
Love the vocals in this song. Really cool rhythm guitars too.
Which songs are you trying to guess, because these sure as hell ain't yours. ;D
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:lol
You dirty......... :lol
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Failure was a no-brainer for me. It's catchy, accessible, still heavy, has a good solo, doesn't have the trademark wall of sound. Just a good song all around.
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Great opening guitar! Not a fan of Mid Tempo, but it works here.
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No. :)
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OK, here's the second grouping of First Impressions..
Regulator
Driving tune with a steady beat. Might be too driving and too steady though.
Love the vocals in this song. Really cool rhythm guitars too.
One of these two for Regulator?
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Driving tune with a steady beat. Might be too driving and too steady though.
One of these two for Regulator?
Yes!
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Listening to more Coheed And Cambria and I remain unconvinced that the two songs I've gotten from them in my roulettes aren't their only two good songs.
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What two songs were those :lol
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TAC was kind enough to share the playlist with me, and (fortunately or unfortunately depending on your POV), 12 songs were not available on Spotify Canada. Keeping in mind that I own Trascendance, Addicted, Accelerated Evolution, Terria and Synchestra .... my various gifpressions:
(https://themidnightalliance.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/ive-made-a-huge-mistake.gif)
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(https://c.tenor.com/cj5Xkx88WbUAAAAC/soso-notbad.gif)
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(https://media2.giphy.com/media/PxVU1MvRUs3WE/200.gif)
(http://replygif.net/i/857.gif)
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(https://c.tenor.com/6Chy1L59KiUAAAAM/smile-william-shatber.gif)
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/j3DmDANh1VZk1ED8hs/giphy.gif)
Am I missing something, or is there a reason no one sent anything from Infinity (cuz it's probably what I most enjoy from Devy).
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What two songs were those :lol
I went hunting because I was curious, too, and it looks like they were In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3 and Welcome Home.
I can definitely understand a prog fan liking only IKSoSE3. And I guess there's a reason Welcome Home was a hit, although it was never among my favorites.
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What two songs were those :lol
I went hunting because I was curious, too, and it looks like they were In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3 and Welcome Home.
I can definitely understand a prog fan liking only IKSoSE3. And I guess there's a reason Welcome Home was a hit, although it was never among my favorites.
Yup. I'm listening to Burning Star IV now and I tried IKSoSE3 a while back (fuck these album titles, man) and nothing else has really stuck out at me.
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(https://media4.giphy.com/media/jedneOuAEkcgg/giphy.gif)
That is pretty much the entire round.
Am I missing something, or is there a reason no one sent anything from Infinity (cuz it's probably what I most enjoy from Devy).
It's probably why no one sent anything from it. ;D
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What two songs were those :lol
I went hunting because I was curious, too, and it looks like they were In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3 and Welcome Home.
I can definitely understand a prog fan liking only IKSoSE3. And I guess there's a reason Welcome Home was a hit, although it was never among my favorites.
aahhh, the staples at every Coheed show. While good songs, no where near the best Coheed has to offer. But everyone has different taste so what do I know.
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(fortunately or unfortunately depending on your POV), 12 songs were not available on Spotify Canada.
Devin's Canadian, so I dunno what the fuck is up with that. :lol
And I considered sending Bad Devil as that's one of his best songs, but I actually find Infinity to be one of his weakest albums overall. It's kind of a mess and not in a way I find particularly endearing.
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(https://media4.giphy.com/media/jedneOuAEkcgg/giphy.gif)
That is pretty much the entire round.
Am I missing something, or is there a reason no one sent anything from Infinity (cuz it's probably what I most enjoy from Devy).
Maybe you could've if you know... You had fucking played you wuss.
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OK, well there's still songs and impressions that need to be paired.
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SLAP FIGHT!!!
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The impression for my other song is one of them that you haven't paired yet.
Did I get it right?
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Heavy duty shit?
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The impression for my other song is one of them that you haven't paired yet.
Did I get it right?
You have to match your song, Suicide, with one of the impressions.
Heavy duty shit?
No but it does qualify!
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Heavy duty shit?
Did I wander into the Frontiers thread?
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(fortunately or unfortunately depending on your POV), 12 songs were not available on Spotify Canada.
Devin's Canadian, so I dunno what the fuck is up with that. :lol
My thought exactly! Blame the label!
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Am I missing something, or is there a reason no one sent anything from Infinity (cuz it's probably what I most enjoy from Devy).
It's probably why no one sent anything from it. ;D
(https://c.tenor.com/XYPWhXPDMmQAAAAM/yes-minister-%E5%A4%A7%E8%87%A3.gif)
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:lol
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i also considered bad devil and might be regretting not sending that come results idk
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Likewise I also considered Bad Devil. :lol It was between that and Vampira for the fun metal side I wanted to include, and I felt that Bad Devil might be a bit on the wacky/quirky side for Tim.
I agree with Buddy that Infinity is a messy album, but unlike Buddy that doesn't bother me too much and I still think it's great overall.
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Likewise I also considered Bad Devil. :lol It was between that and Vampira for the fun metal side I wanted to include, and I felt that Bad Devil might be a bit on the wacky/quirky side for Tim.
I agree with Buddy that Infinity is a messy album, but unlike Buddy that doesn't bother me too much and I still think it's great overall.
Bad Devil was one of the first DT songs I ever heard (live, with AVG, on ProgNation at Sea). So much fucking fun.
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Likewise I also considered Bad Devil. :lol It was between that and Vampira for the fun metal side I wanted to include, and I felt that Bad Devil might be a bit on the wacky/quirky side for Tim.
Just checked Bad Devil.
You made the right choice.
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Likewise I also considered Bad Devil. :lol It was between that and Vampira for the fun metal side I wanted to include, and I felt that Bad Devil might be a bit on the wacky/quirky side for Tim.
Just checked Bad Devil.
You made the right choice.
:tup
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good to know :rollin
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good to know :rollin
Well, I said Ariich made the right choice..
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OK, here's the second grouping of First Impressions..
Not sure the Live version really adds much but it’s still cool.[Kingdom (Live)-Romdrums]
Really cool rhythm guitar to start. Quite a bit of variety for a song this length.[Planet Smasher-Kwijibo]
Kind of hectic, even a bit monotonous. Nice drum patterns near the end.[Skesis-Buddy]
The chorus is the best part of this, Love the ending too..[Supercrush!-Lonestar]
Great opening guitar! Not a fan of Mid Tempo, but it works here.[Deadhead-LudwigVan, Puppies]
Sounds like from a play or something. Almost choral in parts.[Sumeria-Cyril]
Driving tune with a steady beat. Might be too driving and too steady though.[Regulator-Elite]
The first half was amazing, almost Styx-ish, but it peters out by the end.[Stormbending-Kingshmegland]
A very nice and simple tune. A nice change from the noise. But is it good enough?[Life-VMadera, HOF]
Feels like there should be some animation to go with this.[March Of The Poozers-Evermind]
This song is some heavy duty shit. Deep track that will need more listens.[Suicide-Professor]
My name is mud. Not to be confused with Bill or Jack or Steve[Love?-Wolfking]
Totally enhances the studio version[Deep Peace (Live)-Stadler]
Love the vocals in this song. Really cool rhythm guitars too.[Vampira-Ariich]
My first impression is that you cannot give a first impression with just one listen. This song is loaded.[Higher-425]
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booo
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If Love? Is mud, you'd have have very hard time with SYL in general.
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If Love? Is mud, you'd have have very hard time with SYL in general.
My Name Is Mud is a reference to a Primus song. Love? made me think of it. Though yes, I feel like SYL would be my least favorite Devin Era.
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booo
This quote goes great with your avatar.
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While I may have trouble with Strapping Young Lad, at least I will always have Strapping Young Chad.
(https://i.imgur.com/c0K3sFd.jpg)
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booo
This quote goes great with your avatar.
My avatar is just going to be you for the entirety of Round 7. :lol
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booo
This quote goes great with your avatar.
My avatar is just going to be you for the entirety of Round 7. :lol
:lol
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:lol
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While I may have trouble with Strapping Young Lad, at least I will always have Strapping Young Chad.
(https://i.imgur.com/c0K3sFd.jpg)
The other bald Canadian :lol
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If Love? Is mud, you'd have have very hard time with SYL in general.
My Name Is Mud is a reference to a Primus song. Love? made me think of it. Though yes, I feel like SYL would be my least favorite Devin Era.
Ah. Not overly familiar with Primus.
Strapping Young Chad :lol
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My gifpression of SYC ....
(http://replygif.net/i/551.gif)
a long long time ago, when some DTF'r first saw a picture of me (I forget who it was), they proclaimed I was the love-child of Devy + JR.
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(https://www.angrymetalguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Devin-Twownsend-343x500.jpg)
Poor Jordan..
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Working on my round 2 submissions :metal
(https://i.imgur.com/ksSrxVv.jpg)
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Roulette Progress Report!
Spent yesterday (my day off) making headway in this round. I have writeups pretty much eked out, and I am working on song rankings. I have a top to bottom list of songs, and there's still a little jockeying for position. Except for a couple of tunes, the huge majority of songs gets better with each listen.
I have heard of Anneke Van Giersbergen, but I've never actually heard her. I didn't realize that she's had a long relationship singing with Devin. A couple of you sent songs that featured her and I must say that was a stealth move. I spent a lot of last night watching live footage of her with Devin and DAMN! Spectacular. Makes me want to have an Anneke Round.
It has come to my attention that there's not a ton of Neal Morse on Spotify. I can't handle 25-30 youtube links. Are there any Neal Morse experts that have all of his stuff that could make me a playlist?
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I have heard of Anneke Van Giersbergen, but I've never actually heard her. I didn't realize that she's had a long relationship singing with Devin. A couple of you sent songs that featured her and I must say that was a stealth move. I spent a lot of last night watching live footage of her with Devin and DAMN! Spectacular. Makes me want to have an Anneke Round.
You didn't forget that I sent Hyperdrive! last roulette, did you? Noticed it wasn't one of the banned songs. :lol
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It has come to my attention that there's not a ton of Neal Morse on Spotify. I can't handle 25-30 youtube links. Are there any Neal Morse experts that have all of his stuff that could make me a playlist?
This would be a great excuse to replace this round with something else :jamaritard:
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Roulette Progress Report!
Spent yesterday (my day off) making headway in this round. I have writeups pretty much eked out, and I am working on song rankings. I have a top to bottom list of songs, and there's still a little jockeying for position. Except for a couple of tunes, the huge majority of songs gets better with each listen.
I have heard of Anneke Van Giersbergen, but I've never actually heard her. I didn't realize that she's had a long relationship singing with Devin. A couple of you sent songs that featured her and I must say that was a stealth move. I spent a lot of last night watching live footage of her with Devin and DAMN! Spectacular. Makes me want to have an Anneke Round.
It has come to my attention that there's not a ton of Neal Morse on Spotify. I can't handle 25-30 youtube links. Are there any Neal Morse experts that have all of his stuff that could make me a playlist?
I know I'm not playing, but I'm kinda following, since this is always a fun group :biggrin:
Seeing your appreciation for Anneke - do yourself a favor a listen to Mandylion by The Gathering. That's their 1995 album (their third overall, but first with her on vocals), and that's when Anneke was introduced to us unsuspecting metalheads, who would then proceed to fall in love with her. Fantastic record - earthy, doomy and dreamy at the same time.
She's done much more, with The Gathering, guesting on many other albums, and now solo, but that (to me) is a great starting point.
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I almost sent something with Anneke but you wanted Devin so you got pure Devin!
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I have heard of Anneke Van Giersbergen, but I've never actually heard her. I didn't realize that she's had a long relationship singing with Devin. A couple of you sent songs that featured her and I must say that was a stealth move. I spent a lot of last night watching live footage of her with Devin and DAMN! Spectacular. Makes me want to have an Anneke Round.
You didn't forget that I sent Hyperdrive! last roulette, did you? Noticed it wasn't one of the banned songs. :lol
Um.. :blush yeah I forgot. Now that you mention it, I still don't remember! :lol
Do you remember which EP it was on?
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Roulette Progress Report!
Spent yesterday (my day off) making headway in this round. I have writeups pretty much eked out, and I am working on song rankings. I have a top to bottom list of songs, and there's still a little jockeying for position. Except for a couple of tunes, the huge majority of songs gets better with each listen.
I have heard of Anneke Van Giersbergen, but I've never actually heard her. I didn't realize that she's had a long relationship singing with Devin. A couple of you sent songs that featured her and I must say that was a stealth move. I spent a lot of last night watching live footage of her with Devin and DAMN! Spectacular. Makes me want to have an Anneke Round.
It has come to my attention that there's not a ton of Neal Morse on Spotify. I can't handle 25-30 youtube links. Are there any Neal Morse experts that have all of his stuff that could make me a playlist?
Replace Neal Morse with Pain of Salvation.......please.
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I have heard of Anneke Van Giersbergen, but I've never actually heard her. I didn't realize that she's had a long relationship singing with Devin. A couple of you sent songs that featured her and I must say that was a stealth move. I spent a lot of last night watching live footage of her with Devin and DAMN! Spectacular. Makes me want to have an Anneke Round.
You didn't forget that I sent Hyperdrive! last roulette, did you? Noticed it wasn't one of the banned songs. :lol
Um.. :blush yeah I forgot. Now that you mention it, I still don't remember! :lol
Do you remember which EP it was on?
It was in the female vocalists round. I think you gave it an 8.5 :lol Give yourself a refresher!
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Who wants to spot TAC the $6.99 so he can subscribe to Waterfall for a month? Should we take up a collection? :lol
https://waterfallstreaming.com/
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Ladies And Djents. That was a great title.
I just found it and was reading through it. Yeah, it got an 8.5.
This was my comment on it:
"I like the vocals in this, especially the chorus."
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Heh, you probably forgot it was Devin Townsend because he's barely on it.
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Heh, you probably forgot it was Devin Townsend because he's barely on it.
I forgot because I'm old.
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Who wants to spot TAC the $6.99 so he can subscribe to Waterfall for a month? Should we take up a collection? :lol
https://waterfallstreaming.com/
Not needed. I have my Neal Morse DJ at the ready!
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Replace Neal Morse with Pain of Salvation.......please.
Why would anyone do this? It's like replacing your vacation to Hawaii with a vacation to the local landfill.
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Replace Neal Morse with Pain of Salvation.......please.
Why would anyone do this? It's like replacing your vacation to Hawaii with a vacation to the local landfill.
:rollin :rollin
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Hawaii is not on my bucket list.
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Replace Neal Morse with Pain of Salvation.......please.
Why would anyone do this? It's like replacing your vacation to Hawaii with a vacation to the local landfill.
Pain of Salvation > Neal Morse
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but to answer TAC; I have all of the Spock's Beard stuff Neal sings on at least and I have about 4 solo/Neal Morse Band albums, so I can help out at least a little
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but to answer TAC; I have all of the Spock's Beard stuff Neal sings on at least and I have about 4 solo/Neal Morse Band albums, so I can help out at least a little
Thanks Rich!
But...
Who wants to spot TAC the $6.99 so he can subscribe to Waterfall for a month? Should we take up a collection? :lol
https://waterfallstreaming.com/
Not needed. I have my Neal Morse DJ at the ready!
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Replace Neal Morse with Pain of Salvation.......please.
Why would anyone do this? It's like replacing your vacation to Hawaii with a vacation to the local landfill.
I'm shocked that you don't have the same opinion on POS that I do.
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Take it to the DT Side! ;D
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Is Pain Of Salvation objectively bad?
Really makes you think.
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Is Pain Of Salvation objectively bad?
(https://i.postimg.cc/L5YLyzd7/steve-carell-no.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
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Take it to the DT Side! ;D
Nah, it's better over this side.
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PoS has an unironic acronym.
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Is Pain Of Salvation objectively bad?
Really makes you think.
Are you WildRanger?
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Buddyranger1
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Is Pain Of Salvation objectively bad?
Really makes you think.
Are you WildRanger?
Can he be?
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Devin recently did a Tea Time interview with Elizabeth Zharoff (The Charismatic Voice girl).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeYVwu1qEh4&t=2s
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Guys I think TAC might actually like Devin Townsend :neverusethis:
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:lol
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Guys I think TAC might actually like Devin Townsend :neverusethis:
Does that mean we all win? :biggrin: :metal
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Guys I think TAC might actually like Devin Townsend :neverusethis:
to be fair devin is one of the safest bets in the entire roulette, it's all downhill from here
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Guys I think TAC might actually like Devin Townsend :neverusethis:
to be fair devin is one of the safest bets in the entire roulette, it's all downhill from here
It's kind of how I'm feeling. :lol
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And that pleases me. :lol
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Anyone want scores??
Here they are!
9.00
8.60
8.50
8.45
8.35
8.25
8.20
8.20
7.90
7.80
7.80
7.80
7.70
7.65
7.55
7.50
7.05
All songs ranged from 6.9-9.0
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6.9
nice :corn
i'm gonna put my money on one of the 7.80's
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I realised I have quite a few Devin albums but for some reason I've never really gotten that deep into him. I find him quite pleasant but never really went on with it. I thought I was a decent fan, but this made me realise, probably not.
I think Tim's scores and thoughts might be something to kick start getting these albums out again and revisiting.
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One thing I forgot to do was to post the playlist.
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6rS24ffAM3GfMbh76Vi9Rn?si=c2049ca569494cd6
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I know I'm not playing, but I'm kinda following, since this is always a fun group :biggrin:
Seeing your appreciation for Anneke - do yourself a favor a listen to Mandylion by The Gathering. That's their 1995 album (their third overall, but first with her on vocals), and that's when Anneke was introduced to us unsuspecting metalheads, who would then proceed to fall in love with her. Fantastic record - earthy, doomy and dreamy at the same time.
She's done much more, with The Gathering, guesting on many other albums, and now solo, but that (to me) is a great starting point.
Nick, I mean to come back to this..
I will be following up with her.
Thank you and your participation is appreciated in the roulette.
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Results today!
2:00pm Boston time
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Results today!
2:00pm Boston time
What time is it now?
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Results today!
2:00pm Boston time
What time is it now?
You've got 6.5 hours.
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Results today!
2:00pm Boston time
Wicked Pissa!
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Results today!
2:00pm Boston time
What time is it now?
You've got 6.5 hours.
I guess I'll sleep til then.
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Results today!
2:00pm Boston time
What time is it now?
You've got 6.5 hours.
I guess I'll sleep til then.
Yeah... you'll need your preserve your strength and endurance for the Haken round
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:lol
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Results today!
2:00pm Boston time
What time is it now?
You've got 6.5 hours.
I guess I'll sleep til then.
Yeah... you'll need your preserve your strength and endurance for the Haken round
Jokes on you, I'm still awake and just closed a Haken vid to come back here.
True fucking story. It come up In my feed and watched it. The whole fucking thing too.
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Results today!
2:00pm Boston time
What time is it now?
You've got 6.5 hours.
I guess I'll sleep til then.
Yeah... you'll need your preserve your strength and endurance for the Haken round
Jokes on you, I'm still awake and just closed a Haken vid to come back here.
True fucking story. It come up In my feed and watched it. The whole fucking thing too.
But did you enjoy it?
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So...
Before I post the results, I really wanted to thank EVERYBODY for their submissions for this round. This format is a great way to get a great cross section of songs/styles simply due to the cross section of participants, with different tastes.
I have known about Devin for a while now, but never really checked him out. Truthfully, I did give Transcendence a listen when it came out. I put my computer on my kitchen counter and did dishes/made dinner to it. I remember digging it, but I think I thought it wore on a bit. Never listened again. Obviously, Devin is a prolific writer. He's part Alice Cooper, part King Diamond, with harsh vocals. He should appeal to me. It just seemed everytime I sampled him on youtube, it was some screamo song, although, it's really been in the last few years that I've come around a bit on that.
I have thoroughly enjoyed this playlist. I may lop off the bottom few tracks, but I listened to the playlist at work, and it totally worked for me. One thing I noticed is whatever song is playing, there is some incredible drumming. He always has a tight AF rhythm section.
So, as the title asks...WTF am I missing? A lot here.
You guys have provided me a wonderful roadmap. Mission accomplished!
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You guys have provided me a wonderful roadmap. Mission accomplished!
Too bad this is the road you're on
(http://i.imgur.com/Du993Pc.gif)
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you should start your deep dive with Ghost :neverusethis:
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So...
Before I post the results, I really wanted to thank EVERYBODY for their submissions for this round. This format is a great way to get a great cross section of songs/styles simply due to the cross section of participants, with different tastes.
I have known about Devin for a while now, but never really checked him out. Truthfully, I did give Transcendence a listen when it came out. I put my computer on my kitchen counter and did dishes/made dinner to it. I remember digging it, but I think I thought it wore on a bit. Never listened again. Obviously, Devin is a prolific writer. He's part Alice Cooper, part King Diamond, with harsh vocals. He should appeal to me. It just seemed everytime I sampled him on youtube, it was some screamo song, although, it's really been in the last few years that I've come around a bit on that.
I have thoroughly enjoyed this playlist. I may lop off the bottom few tracks, but I listened to the playlist at work, and it totally worked for me. One thing I noticed is whatever song is playing, there is some incredible drumming. He always has a tight AF rhythm section.
So, as the title asks...WTF am I missing? A lot here.
You guys have provided me a wonderful roadmap. Mission accomplished!
Awesome, go team!
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you should start your deep dive with Ghost :neverusethis:
No, Devlab.
Or The Hummer.
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Devsults!!
Lonestar
Supercrush!....... 8.4
The chorus is the best part of this, ends really strong.
Anneke! Holy shit!. I really like Devin in this chorus. I would’ve liked a different pace or some sort of changeup in the bridge. Listening at around 3:45 and there’s too much going on in my ears. I like that quick little thing at 4:08 to set up the final chorus. The part at 5:00, I like and they exited that section too soon to end the song. I would’ve rather dropped the bridge and built upon that ending. Still, great song.
Addicted!....... 7.2
This is the Keep It In The Family riff! Driving track for sure.
The beginning of this reminded me a lot of Anthrax’s Keep It In The Family. Totally the same groove. This song kind of lives on this groove for the entire song. The female vocals are nice, but this isn’t my favorite Devin vocal. The chorus isn’t bad. I wasn’t expecting the circus music until the next round.
Unfortunately for Addicted!, there's way more songs in this round that are more....addictive!
8.4+7.2=15.6/2=7.80
Kingshmegland
Stormbending....... 8.3
The first half was amazing, almost Styx-ish, but it peters out by the end.
This starts off with a cool section. At 1:40, it goes full on Styx, and it’s awesome. I love this part. Love it! Has a cool JP styled solo. The second half of this song isn’t nearly as good as the first, but like most other songs, this section has grown on me.
Where We Belong...... 7.1
Nice enough but not very exciting, though it “grands up” for the second half.
Wow, this feels almost too safe. There’s some intense stuff in this round and this is having trouble stacking up.
8.3+7.1=15.4/2=7.70
Vmadera00
Kingdom..... 9.0
Really strong vocals for the early verses. This song is really thick, but good.
Damn, what an amazing intro. When the vocals come in, it is literally my favorite moment of the entire playlist. These first verses are amazing. This song stays on an intense journey. This song really gets better with every listen.
Life...... 7.9
A very nice and simple tune. A nice change from the noise. But is it good enough?
Sounds like a song you’d hear on the radio. Quality track. Quite simple and effective. I definitely like it. So many of the other songs in this round are so thick, this is like a breath of fresh air.
9.0+7.9=16.9/2=8.45
Romdrums
Almost Again...... 7.5
Decent enough tune. Will it stand out?
I have really struggled to come up with comments on this song. The verse is ok. The chorus is ok. There’s nothing I inherently dislike about this song, but there’s nothing I really grab onto. The best moment of the song comes at 2:00.. the “so it’s over” part.
Kingdom (Live)....... 9.0
Not sure the Live version really adds much but it’s still cool.
Here’s what I said about the studio version:
Damn, what an amazing intro. When the vocals come in, it is literally my favorite moment of the entire playlist. These first verses are amazing. This song stays on an intense journey. This song really gets better with every listen.
This live version is pretty faithful, but it is strong. Tons of energy.
7.5+9.0=16.5/2=8.25
Kwyjibo
Funeral..... 7.4
This was actually pretty nice to start but damn it lingers
This song has a nice pace to it. Almost hypnotic. There seems to be layers to this, but I feel like this plods along a bit. I am glad it changes a bit at 5:30. Breaks it up a bit, but it’s the same tempo. I kind of wish they’d had ridden this out. When it comes back full on, it just feels like a long song.
Planet Smasher...... 8.2
Really cool rhythm guitar to start. Quite a bit of variety for a song of this length.
I like the Megadeth styled opening to this. I don’t know what kind of story is going on, but the music really supports it well. There’s a wicked double bass flurry at 2:15. Wow! This music really keeps you engaged. Really intense. I like the bit at 4:00 and it would’ve been a nice way to ride this out. I didn’t need another chorus, which is the weakest part of the song. This song has some really cool rhythm guitars. I really digged this.
7.4+8.2=15.6/2=7.80
HOF
Life...... 7.9
A very nice and simple tune. A nice change from the noise. But is it good enough?
Sounds like a song you’d hear on the radio. Quality track. Quite simple and effective. I definitely like it. So many of the other songs in this round are so thick, this is like a breath of fresh air.
Funeral..... 7.4
This was actually pretty nice to start but damn it lingers
This song has a nice pace to it. Almost hypnotic. There seems to be layers to this, but I feel like this plods along a bit. I am glad it changes a bit at 5:30. Breaks it up a bit, but it’s the same tempo. I kind of wish they’d had ridden this out. When it comes back full on, it just feels like a long song.
7.9+7.4=15.3/2=7.65
Buddy
Addicted!...... 7.2
This is the Keep It In The Family riff! Driving track for sure.
The beginning of this reminded me a lot of Anthrax’s Keep It In The Family. Totally the same groove. This song kind of lives on this groove for the entire song. The female vocals are nice, but this isn’t my favorite Devin vocal. The chorus isn’t bad. I wasn’t expecting the circus music until the next round. Unfortunately for Addicted!, there's way more songs in this round that are more....addictive!
Skesis...... 6.9
Kind of hectic, even a bit monotonous. Nice drum patterns near the end.
Another song that reminds me of Anthrax. Except, I can’t say I’m a huge fan of this song. It’s intense and all, but I don’t feel it takes me anywhere. It’s not terribly musical. The last minute is pretty cool though. Amazing drumming.
7.2+6.9=14.1/2=7.05
Puppies
Deadhead........ 8.2
Great opening guitar! Not a fan of Mid Tempo, but it works here.
I love the opening guitar here. Mid tempo, but I like how the vocals float above the rhythm. There’s two run throughs over the verse/chorus before a long instrumental section where it stays at the same tempo and not much happens. Then a third verse/chorus, all at the same pace. I think at 8 minutes, this is probably 3 minutes too long. I like the idea of this, but it just kind of wears on. Still, it's one of the stronger tracks in the round.
Failure...... 9.0
Really nice. Excellent chorus. Cool guitar. Nice.
Cool guitar to start this off. The rhythm leading into the verses is cool. Nice vocals and falsetto. The chorus is grand. Nice intro to the instrumental part at 2:16. Then at 3:12, it goes full on La Villa Strangiato. This is fucking nice! Closing with another chorus and brief outro. Excellent song!
8.2+9.0=17.2/2=8.60
Cyril
Stand..... 7.4
Wow, that’s a powerful song, but it does test your patience.
Kind of a brooding beginning. The whole song is brooding. Love that little thing they do at 7:46. I think my first listen to this was the best one. It never really took off from there. It’s just kind of monotonous.
Sumeria..... 7.7
Sounds like from a play or something. Almost choral in parts.
The gang vocals are really cool. Like an entrance of a Disney villain. Probably my favorite part of the song. This song has a ton of layers. Not sure I’m crazy about the verses though. Interesting way to end it. Doesn’t feel connected to the song in any way.
7.4+7.7=15.1/2=7.55
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Elite
Poltergeist...... 8.1
Cool driving rhythms. Frenetic pace to this.
Not sure if this song fits into its album contextually. Standing alone, it feels a bit odd. I like the “Give it to me”s in the background at about the :50 mark. Best part is at 2:40. Love that groove. Interesting switch at 3:15. This kind of thing was needed a minute earlier. I wasn’t sure if this song was ever going to come up for air.
Regulator...... 6.9
Driving tune with a steady beat. Might be too driving and too steady though.
I ain’t gonna lie. I don’t really like this song. Probably my least favorite of the round. It just pulses and doesn’t do much else for me.
8.1+6.9=15/2=7.50
LudwigVan
Deadhead..... 8.2
Great opening guitar! Not a fan of Mid Tempo, but it works here.
I love the opening guitar here. Mid tempo, but I like how the vocals float above the rhythm. There’s two run throughs of the verse/chorus before a long instrumental section where it stays at the same tempo and not much happens. Then a third verse/chorus, all at the same pace. I think at 8 minutes, this is probably 3 minutes too long. I like the idea of this, but it just kind of wears on. Still, it's one of the stronger tracks in the round.
Traveller...... 8.5
This isn’t the Rush Round.
Right away, the rhythm guitars reminded me of Rush. Even the drums..looking at the Test For Echo era, although some of the guitars harken back even further. Really nice vocals in the chorus. The chorus has that 80’s college radio feel to it.
8.2+8.5=16.7/2=8.35
Evermind
Failure...... 9.0
Really nice. Excellent chorus. Cool guitar. Nice.
Cool guitar to start this off. The rhythm leading into the verses is cool. Nice vocals and falsetto. The chorus is grand. Nice intro to the instrumental part at 2:16. Then at 3:12, it goes full on La Villa Strangiato. This is fucking nice! Closing with another chorus and brief outro. Excellent Song!
March Of The Poozers...... 7.4
Feels like there should be some animation to go with this.
Two visions entered my mind listening to this. The marching hammers in Pink Floyd’s The Wall, and Disney’s Fantasia. This song is really well executed. I’m sure that in the context of whatever album this is part of, it fits in great. As a stand alone track, it’s less effective.
9.0+7.4=16.4/2=8.20
Professor Peart
Suicide...... 8.0
This song is some heavy duty shit. Deep track that will need more listens.
This is a thick song that I’m really having trouble feeling one way or the other about it. It’s heavy, but it does kind of feel ‘there’. It does have a decent chorus. The instrumental part at 4:04 is really nice leading into that excellent solo at 5:09. The ending chorus fits nicely after the instrumental section. This song is growing on me, like I knew it would.
Deep Peace...... 8.4
Was thinking this was a bit wanky but that guitar solo is nails.
Not sure of the setting or what animal those sounds are supposed to be. Thinking of a seashore or something. Pink Floydish when the vocals start for sure. When the guitar solo starts, it sounds Kung Fu Panda-ish, but then morphs into something really fucking cool. Phenomenal solo. The bands’ backing behind it is incredible, supporting every twist and turn. Standard ending which I feel lets the song down a bit.
8.0+8.4=16.4/2=8.20
Wolfking
Poltergeist...... 8.1
Cool driving rhythms. Frenetic pace to this.
Not sure if this song fits into its album contextually. Standing alone, it feels a bit odd.
I like the “Give it to me”s in the background at about the :50 mark. Best part is at 2:40. Love that groove. Interesting switch at 3:15. This kind of thing was needed a minute earlier. I wasn’t sure if this song was ever going to come up for air.
Love?...... 7.5
My name is mud. Not to be confused with Bill or Jack or Steve
This song has a pounding rhythm. I’m glad the chorus breaks it up a bit. But I’m not sure it’s enough. For such a short song, it’s a bit monotonous.
8.1+7.5=15.6/2=7.8
Stadler
Deep Peace (Live).....8.5
Totally enhances the studio version
Here’s what I said about the studio version:
Not sure of the setting or what animal those sounds are supposed to be. Thinking of a seashore or something. Pink Floydish when the vocals start for sure. When the guitar solo starts, it sounds Kung Fu Panda-ish, but then morphs into something really fucking cool. Phenomenal solo. The bands’ backing behind it is incredible, supporting every twist and turn. Standard ending which I feel lets the song down a bit.
The song feels intimate live. And the ending feels a bit stronger than the studio version.
Bend It Like Bender!...... 8.5
It’s Deaf Forever’s riff. Nice poppy track.
Yeah, the Deaf Forever riff hit me right from the jump. Great blend with the female vocals for the chorus. She has a great voice. This has a real nice fun feel to it.
8.5+8.5=17/2=8.5
Ariich
Vampira....... 9.0
Love the vocals in this song. Really cool rhythm guitars too.
Nice chugging rhythm guitars to start this song. This might be my favorite Devin vocal in the playlist. Reminds me of Freddie Mercury honestly. Not so much in range, but in versatility. The chorus is excellent. Big time Metallica moment at 1:48. The chorus at 2:25 is particularly strong vocally. Really impressive piece.
Failure....... 9.0
Really nice. Excellent chorus. Cool guitar. Nice.
Cool guitar to start this off. The rhythm leading into the verses is cool. Nice vocals and falsetto. The chorus is grand. Nice intro to the instrumental part at 2:16. Then at 3:12, it goes full on La Villa Strangiato. This is fucking nice! Closing with another chorus and brief outro. Excellent song!
9.0+9.0=18/2=9.0
425
Higher...... 7.9
My first impression is that you cannot give a first impression with just one listen. This song is loaded.
Pink Floyd to start. This one word chorus is ..interesting. It is grandiose. Cool rhythm under the verse at 2:40., and the following verse as well. The middle part from 4:00 to about 5:20 is excellent. This song is quite a journey. Feels a bit long. While there were a few too many “Higher”s in the beginning, those final ones must go over amazing live.
From The Heart....... 7.9
I was finding the song a bit slow going, but the instrumental passage to close the song is outstanding.
Even though this song starts out kind of slow, there’s a strength behind it. The verses are really nice. It meanders (not sure this is the right word, because it is effective, but…boring) a bit as it decompresses into the instrumental second half. The instrumental section is quiet and dreamy, but quite gorgeous.
7.9+7.9=15.8/2=7.90
As always, please check my math!
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Standings!
Ariich...9.0
Puppies...8.60
Stadler...8.50
VMadera...8.45
LudwigVan...8.35
Romdrums...8.25
Evermind...8.20
Professor...8.20
425...7.90
Lonestar...7.80
Kwyjibo...7.80
Wolfking...7.80
Kingshmegland...7.70
HOF...7.65
Cyril...7.55
Elite...7.50
Buddy...7.05
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everyone sending the heaviest songs getting the worst scores is some good karma :rollin
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Glad you enjoyed the round mate. I'll revisit a lot of these songs myself.
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also the ending of sumeria connects to the next song on the album, which is a 16 minute epic called The Mighty Masturbator.
It's...... a trip :lol
idk decon has kinda wormed its way up to being probably my favorite metal album by devin overall honestly it's just a good time
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Wow, what the fuck. :lol
Well, let's just consider this a team effort. :neverusethis:
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Results today!
2:00pm Boston time
What time is it now?
You've got 6.5 hours.
I guess I'll sleep til then.
Yeah... you'll need your preserve your strength and endurance for the Haken round
Jokes on you, I'm still awake and just closed a Haken vid to come back here.
True fucking story. It come up In my feed and watched it. The whole fucking thing too.
But did you enjoy it?
I did not.
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Huh, Poozers only got 7.4. Well, I'm not here to win anyway. :lol
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Glad to see the love for Vampira. That’s a killer song.
*returns to lurking*
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Glad to see the love for Vampira. That’s a killer song.
*returns to lurking*
Yeah, I got that totally wrong in what Tim would think here. That's cool though.
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I basically agree with your assessments of the two songs I sent! I'll definitely take a middle of the pack score right now, even though numerically I'm slightly closer to last than I am to first. Not one of my stronger artists (really only know a couple of albums), so hopefully that's a good starting place for me to build on.
And yeah, it's pretty cool that this round went over so well and got you to reevaluate the artist. I hope that happens again.
Haken submissions coming soon.
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Nice.. Supercrush is easily my favorite Devy song, and Anneke is just :hearts:
Let the Hakenation begin.. Sent.
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:facepalm:
Huh, Poozers only got 7.4. Well, I'm not here to win anyway. :lol
Poozers felt like a transitional piece. There's just something that felt incomplete to me about it.
Glad to see the love for Vampira. That’s a killer song.
*returns to lurking*
Yeah, I got that totally wrong in what Tim would think here. That's cool though.
Vampira had the best vocal of the round, plus I loved the old school Metallica style riffing.
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Poozers felt like a transitional piece. There's just something that felt incomplete to me about it.
I think it's a live staple! I don't actually know but one time I saw Devin live, he played both Failure and Poozers. :lol Both sounded pretty good!
I should've went with Kingdom though, yeah.
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For funsies, here's my personal ranking of every song this round:
Addicted!
Funeral
Skeksis
Love?
Deadhead
Kingdom
Stormbending
Deep Peace
Bend It Like Bender!
Vampira
March Of The Poozers
Suicide
Stand
Supercrush!
Failure
Regulator
Sumeria
Poltergeist
Where We Belong
Higher
Almost Again
Life
Traveller
Planet Smasher
From The Heart
I like everything from Higher onwards though, and the bottom five certainly aren't bad. Kinda surprised I ranked all the Deconstruction songs that low, but I think that album works better as a whole and my favorite three songs from it weren't sent (The Mighty Masturbator, Planet Of The Apes, Deconstruction).
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I should've went with Kingdom though, yeah.
To be fair, everybody should've went with Kingdom. :lol
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For funsies, here's my personal ranking of every song this round:
Addicted!
Funeral
Skeksis
Love?
Deadhead
Kingdom
Stormbending
Deep Peace
Bend It Like Bender!
Vampira
March Of The Poozers
Suicide
Stand
Supercrush!
Failure
Regulator
Sumeria
Poltergeist
Where We Belong
Higher
Almost Again
Life
Traveller
Planet Smasher
From The Heart
I like everything from Higher onwards though, and the bottom five certainly aren't bad. Kinda surprised I ranked all the Deconstruction songs that low, but I think that album works better as a whole and my favorite three songs from it weren't sent (The Mighty Masturbator, Planet Of The Apes, Deconstruction).
Thanks for the list, Buddy!
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Let the Hakenation begin.. Sent.
I don't know if I can think of too many things more miserable than 3 hours of Haken.
3 hours of Opeth?
3 hours of Porcupine Tree?
3 hours of Coheed?
3 hours of BTBAM?
hmmm... seems I can think of it.
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Sent for Round 2. I anticipate being raked over the coals for one of my picks. :biggrin: The other is pretty obvious.
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Second song was safe. I figured so many were sending in the normal Devy furry of sound so I was hoping the change would catch you.
Round 2 all ready sent!
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Let the Hakenation begin.. Sent.
I don't know if I can think of too many things more miserable than 3 hours of Haken.
3 hours of Opeth?
3 hours of Porcupine Tree?
3 hours of Coheed?
3 hours of BTBAM?
hmmm... seems I can think of it.
I still have fond memories of Haken's show I visited in Hamburg in 2019. It was Haken headlining with VOLA and Bent Knee as openers. Sounds like a nightmare for you Chad. :lol Man those were good times. I got back to my room at like 2 AM.
Hopefully I'll be able to travel somewhere next year. Two years of almost no concerts and absolutely no travel have been a little bit difficult. I still have tickets to ProgPower Europe 2020 which is 2022 now. :lol Perhaps that'll finally happen next autumn.
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Seems like Ocean Machine, which is my favorite DT record might not be for you. But anyway, on to the Haken round. :metal
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Let the Hakenation begin.. Sent.
I don't know if I can think of too many things more miserable than 3 hours of Haken.
3 hours of Opeth?
3 hours of Porcupine Tree?
3 hours of Coheed?
3 hours of BTBAM?
hmmm... seems I can think of it.
The regret of not singing up here is real.
Plus, you forgot Mastadon.
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Let the Hakenation begin.. Sent.
I don't know if I can think of too many things more miserable than 3 hours of Haken.
3 hours of Opeth?
3 hours of Porcupine Tree?
3 hours of Coheed?
3 hours of BTBAM?
hmmm... seems I can think of it.
Have a Snickers will ya?! :lol
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Second song was safe. I figured so many were sending in the normal Devy furry of sound so I was hoping the change would catch you.
Round 2 all ready sent!
I found Devin anything but furry. :lol
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alright :tup
enjoy checking out Devin's work!
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Second song was safe. I figured so many were sending in the normal Devy furry of sound so I was hoping the change would catch you.
Round 2 all ready sent!
I found Devin anything but furry. :lol
:lol Fury
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Sent!
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Wow. Arich totally nailed this round. And it wasn’t even really close.
Anyway, I chose the shorter upbeat and poppier Traveller as a foil to the grand doominess of Deadhead (which I like better). It never occurred to me that it was reminiscent of 90s Rush, but now that you point that out, I have to agree.
I’ve sent my Haken picks. That was torturous, but probably not as bad as it’s going to be for me with BTBAM.
There’s some serious strategizing going on in this roulette!
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Second song was safe. I figured so many were sending in the normal Devy furry of sound so I was hoping the change would catch you.
Round 2 all ready sent!
I found Devin anything but furry. :lol
:lol Fury
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Anyway, I chose the shorter upbeat and poppier Traveller as a foil to the grand doominess of Deadhead (which I like better). It never occurred to me that it was reminiscent of 90s Rush, but now that you point that out, I have to agree.
The Rush feel jumped out at me right away. I really liked that song.
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I'll send tomorrow, I love Haken and I've no idea what to send to Tim, it's not his kind of band for sure.
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It wasn't easy to pick two songs :)
ready for the lowest song score in the round again :caffeine:
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I don't get Spock's Beard
I don't get Neal Morse
Might employ the dice roll strategy. :lol
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Let the Hakenation begin.. Sent.
I don't know if I can think of too many things more miserable than 3 hours of Haken.
3 hours of Opeth?
3 hours of Porcupine Tree?
3 hours of Coheed?
3 hours of BTBAM?
hmmm... seems I can think of it.
The regret of not singing up here is real.
Plus, you forgot Masta Don.
I was told ...
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Adding my two cents on Devin, as a lurker of this roulette...
The first I've heard of him was a Strapping Young Lad song on a (I think) Century Media sampler in 1995...That song was S.Y.L. from their (his? I think he played everything on that one) debut. I thought it was nuts, kind of a crazier version of Fear Factory (with that epic chorus!). Didn't really follow up until City came out. The chaos on that album was real ;) and insane drumming from Gene Hoglan. Great stuff. I don't think any of the songs submitted here are from that record, if I'm not mistaken...
After that, I thought Infinity was a lot of fun (and Christeen is a great pop song!), Physicist was ok (that's where the first version of Kingdom is, although the version on Epicloud is better) and Terria was really, really good. Then I almost feel the novelty started wearing out a bit and I didn't follow his work that closely. I was excited about the comeback of Strapping Young Lad, but the heaviness on those albums felt a little contrived to me. Accelerated Evolution has a modern Rush undertone (as noted above) that I really enjoy.
Of the post-Terria album I've heard, Addicted is my favorite. It has the right amount of crunch, great melodies...and Anneke, of course :) In fact, I'd say that might be one of my favorite of his, period.
I'm going to take advantage of the playlist on this thread to discover some of the more recent albums...
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Second song was safe. I figured so many were sending in the normal Devy furry of sound so I was hoping the change would catch you.
Round 2 all ready sent!
I found Devin anything but furry. :lol
then go watch the lucky animals music video
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I'll send tomorrow, I love Haken and I've no idea what to send to Tim, it's not his kind of band for sure.
I made one of my choices very quickly and confidently, which means there's a good chance it will bomb.
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Second song was safe. I figured so many were sending in the normal Devy furry of sound so I was hoping the change would catch you.
Round 2 all ready sent!
I found Devin anything but furry. :lol
then go watch the lucky animals music video
I raise you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plkd3Ih9hT0
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Nice.. Supercrush is easily my favorite Devy song, and Anneke is just :hearts:
Let the Hakenation begin.. Sent.
I clued Tim in to the By A Thread Live In London footage from her night. I can watch that all day long. She is so attractive, and the strength of her vocals just magnifies that. Add to it that she's clearly having a lot of fun playing with Dev, and it's a homerun.
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I've just been quietly spectating this roulette (I probably would've asked to participate if I was more familiar with the discographies of Neal Morse, Coheed and Cambria, and Opeth), but I wanted to come by and say that I would've sent Thing Beyond Things in this round. I have no idea whether you would have liked it or not, TAC, but that's easily my favorite Devin Townsend song that I've heard thus far, and it's without a doubt one of my all-time favorite songs, and I'd send it just for that reason. My other choice would've been By Your Command, or something else from Ziltoid the Omniscient. There's still a lot of Devin Townsend's discography I've yet to listen to, but all the songs here I recognize are also great choices in my book.
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Second song was safe. I figured so many were sending in the normal Devy furry of sound so I was hoping the change would catch you.
Round 2 all ready sent!
I found Devin anything but furry. :lol
then go watch the lucky animals music video
I raise you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plkd3Ih9hT0
oh i hadn't seen this one before but i've seen flacko do a lot of devin stuff before so this makes sense :lol
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Not last (for now)!
Sent!
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I've just been quietly spectating this roulette (I probably would've asked to participate if I was more familiar with the discographies of Neal Morse, Coheed and Cambria, and Opeth), but I wanted to come by and say that I would've sent Thing Beyond Things in this round. I have no idea whether you would have liked it or not, TAC, but that's easily my favorite Devin Townsend song that I've heard thus far, and it's without a doubt one of my all-time favorite songs, and I'd send it just for that reason. My other choice would've been By Your Command, or something else from Ziltoid the Omniscient. There's still a lot of Devin Townsend's discography I've yet to listen to, but all the songs here I recognize are also great choices in my book.
Ah yeah, that's definitely a big omission. Some other big ones that I wish were sent are Bad Devil and Disruptr, though idk if TAC would have liked either of those.
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also fwiw my two favorite devin songs are both off ocean machine, those being funeral and the death of music, but everyone here was collectively smart enough to not send the latter :lol
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Ah yeah, that's definitely a big omission. Some other big ones that I wish were sent are Bad Devil and Disruptr, though idk if TAC would have liked either of those.
I'm glad Bad Devil wasn't sent. It came up in conversation the other day in the thread, so I decided to check it out. It wouldn't have scored well.
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also fwiw my two favorite devin songs are both off ocean machine, those being funeral and the death of music, but everyone here was collectively smart enough to not send the latter :lol
The final stretch of Ocean Machine is so good. Bastard is amazing as well.
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Wow, what the fuck. :lol
Well, let's just consider this a team effort. :neverusethis:
Awesome, go team!
:D
Anyway, delighted you liked those two songs so much Tim, and yeah with Vampira especially, the features you picked out and seem to have really enjoyed were exactly the things I thought you might like (the huge vocals, the Metallica style riff, etc.).
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Seems like everyone but me loves The Death Of Music.
Regulator/Funeral/Bastard is just so much better.
And Things Beyond Things, so simple yet so beautiful.
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also fwiw my two favorite devin songs are both off ocean machine, those being funeral and the death of music, but everyone here was collectively smart enough to not send the latter :lol
The final stretch of Ocean Machine is so good. Bastard is amazing as well.
i think when i ran a devin survivor like five billion years ago bastard won the entire thing, it's also really good but it's slotted between two songs i like even more so it gets kinda overshadowed in my mind
edit: yup, dug up the results thread
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43542.msg1943641#msg1943641
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also fwiw my two favorite devin songs are both off ocean machine, those being funeral and the death of music, but everyone here was collectively smart enough to not send the latter :lol
The final stretch of Ocean Machine is so good. Bastard is amazing as well.
i think when i ran a devin survivor like five billion years ago bastard won the entire thing, it's also really good but it's slotted between two songs i like even more so it gets kinda overshadowed in my mind
Puppies used his Wild Card and included that, but it was an easy dump compared to Deadhead and Failure.
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I've just been quietly spectating this roulette (I probably would've asked to participate if I was more familiar with the discographies of Neal Morse, Coheed and Cambria, and Opeth), but I wanted to come by and say that I would've sent Thing Beyond Things in this round. I have no idea whether you would have liked it or not, TAC, but that's easily my favorite Devin Townsend song that I've heard thus far, and it's without a doubt one of my all-time favorite songs, and I'd send it just for that reason. My other choice would've been By Your Command, or something else from Ziltoid the Omniscient. There's still a lot of Devin Townsend's discography I've yet to listen to, but all the songs here I recognize are also great choices in my book.
I just ran through both songs. They would both need a couple listens to sink in, but I found that with most of the songs in this round. By Your Command sounded interesting for sure.
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yeah i was considering a ziltoid song but they're all very weird and mostly pretty long too so idk how well they would've done, planet smasher and hyperdrive were probably the best picks from that one and even then it's the lesser hyperdrive on ziltoid so
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Seems like everyone but me loves The Death Of Music.
Regulator/Funeral/Bastard is just so much better.
I've always loved the atmosphere and vocal performance of that song, but the mixing is terrible. It's such a minimalistic song, yet the vocals are buried. All the mix needed was for them to be raised a bit; I went in and raised the upper mids using an EQ (plus some other subtle tweaks) and it sounds so much better to me now.
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Haken songs sent!
I suspect my picks are both pretty obvious this time.
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So far 11 people have submitted a total of 17 songs and we're at 2h16m.
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Is anyone going to be brave/mad enough to send any of the 20+ minute songs?
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Is anyone going to be brave/mad enough to send any of the 20+ minute songs?
I know one person that'll be mad. :lol
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Haken songs sent!
I suspect my picks are both pretty obvious this time.
i sent the two most obvious picks possible tbh
haken have significantly less songs than devin so a lot of overlap is not surprising
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I didn't send anything from the first three albums.
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I didn't send anything from the first three albums either, if you count the demo.
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Is anyone going to be brave/mad enough to send any of the 20+ minute songs?
I know one person that'll be mad. :lol
I would have loved to send my favorite Haken song that falls into this category but I know it's not conducive to Tim's tastes.
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Doesn't Haken only have two 20+ minute songs? And doesn't one of them suck? :lol
Crystallized is just under 20 minutes and Celestial Elixir is only 17.
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Wow, what the fuck. :lol
Well, let's just consider this a team effort. :neverusethis:
Awesome, go team!
:D
Anyway, delighted you liked those two songs so much Tim, and yeah with Vampira especially, the features you picked out and seem to have really enjoyed were exactly the things I thought you might like (the huge vocals, the Metallica style riff, etc.).
Damnit Ariich! I thought I had 1st place out of the gates until I saw your scores! :censored :neverusethis:
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Doesn't Haken only have two 20+ minute songs? And doesn't one of them suck? :lol
Crystallized is just under 20 minutes and Celestial Elixir is only 17.
So you know then. Lol. BTW, I sent like you.
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wait i know what one of the 20+ minute songs is but what's the other one
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wait i know what one of the 20+ minute songs is but what's the other one
Visions and Messiah Complex?
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Haken songs sent!
I suspect my picks are both pretty obvious this time.
Which ones are those ones?
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Doesn't Haken only have two 20+ minute songs? And doesn't one of them suck? :lol
Crystallized is just under 20 minutes and Celestial Elixir is only 17.
Just one of them?
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also fwiw my two favorite devin songs are both off ocean machine, those being funeral and the death of music, but everyone here was collectively smart enough to not send the latter :lol
The final stretch of Ocean Machine is so good. Bastard is amazing as well.
Can't believe I forgot to mention Ocean Machine in my recount of my own DT experience...brain fart I guess ;) ...Very much one my favorites in his body of work and yes, the final stretch is pretty spectacular
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wait i know what one of the 20+ minute songs is but what's the other one
Visions and Messiah Complex?
the latter's like 17 minutes lol
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wait i know what one of the 20+ minute songs is but what's the other one
Visions and Messiah Complex?
the latter's like 17 minutes lol
Crystallized would be the closest at 19+ minutes.
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wait i know what one of the 20+ minute songs is but what's the other one
Visions and Messiah Complex?
the latter's like 17 minutes lol
My bad, I thought it was longer for some reason.
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Sent for the Haken round. Sorry in advance.... :corn
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wait i know what one of the 20+ minute songs is but what's the other one
Visions and Messiah Complex?
the latter's like 17 minutes lol
Crystallized would be the closest at 19+ minutes.
Whoops. Well thankfully I don't like Crystallized either. :lol
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wait i know what one of the 20+ minute songs is but what's the other one
Visions and Messiah Complex?
the latter's like 17 minutes lol
My bad, I thought it was longer for some reason.
Probably feels like an hour.
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Guys I think wolfking loves Haken :heart
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Hacken.
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Hacken.
(https://i.postimg.cc/kG3FkHQw/excuse-me.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
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My bad, I thought it was longer for some reason.
That's what she said.. :neverusethis:
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Doesn't Haken only have two 20+ minute songs? And doesn't one of them suck? :lol
Crystallized is just under 20 minutes and Celestial Elixir is only 17.
Just one of them?
Boom.
When does this round have to be in?
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Doesn't Haken only have two 20+ minute songs? And doesn't one of them suck? :lol
Crystallized is just under 20 minutes and Celestial Elixir is only 17.
Just one of them?
Boom.
When does this round have to be in?
Now. ;D
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Outing people in my PM's is not usually my style, but I thought I'd make an exception. I wanted to share the unbridled enthusiasm for this round.
I don't really care for Haken...
Here are two of my favorite Haken tunes, which you will probably hate :D
I own one Haken album and it’s good but I can’t say I’ve had much desire to explore them further.
Anyway now to screw things up with my Haken picks. :neverusethis:
I ain't listening to anymore of them.
Awful band.
I don't think there is a single song by Haken that you will like. I spent the last few days listening to their entire discography and I couldn't come up with something that I think you would like.....
Don't forget, I need a Haken submission first.
Ugh. Do I have to?
:lol :lol :lol
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Don't forget, I need a Haken submission first.
Ugh. Do I have to?
:rollin
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This is going to be a fun week.
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I wanted to share the unbridled enthusiasm for this round.
I wonder if Tim knows he made a Seinfeld reference there. A deep cut too I might add.
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I wanted to share the unbridled enthusiasm for this round.
I wonder if Tim knows he made a Seinfeld reference there. A deep cut too I might add.
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You guys are wack. They rule!
(https://i.postimg.cc/SN6W3VtN/20181105-091008.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7fLGT1kp) (https://poemsonly.com/category/friendship)
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Tim, as a "bonus" any chance you'd give a listen to "The Mighty Masturbator" and "Genesis". I'm just curious.
Deep Peace has my favorite guitar playing ever I think. So good.
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Tim, as a "bonus" any chance you'd give a listen to "The Mighty Masturbator" and "Genesis". I'm just curious.
On it, V!
EDIT: So... The Mighty Masturbator is 16 minutes? That IS mighty. :lol
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The Mighty Masturbator....
I love the part from 1:30-2:42. As expected, really excellent drumming. Great vocals. Love the keyboard rhythms under the vocals at the 4:40 mark.
Five minutes in and we're good! The vocal effects that start at 5:25 really show you how in control of the music he really is.
6:59....um...what just happened? :lol
Yeah, so let's pretend these next 5 minutes never happened..
The song gets real again at 11:48.
Ends with a real Alice Cooperish final two minutes.
After one listen...I think it's pretty good. I'd have to figure out those middle 5 minutes of WTF before I could grade it. I feel like it'd start around a 7.8 and eventually get to an 8.0.
Genesis...
Q-bert metal!
Not a fan of that wallofsoundblastbeat during/after the chorus "Let there be light" part.. 3:10-5:18....It's like Duran Duran on meth.
This song needs another half dozen listens.
Scoring...after the first listen..7.6...and by the end of the round..7.8.
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Cool. Thanks.
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I didn't send anything from the first three albums.
This doesn't strike me as the strat but who knows
I sent only things from the first three albums.
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Sent.
I really like Haken and have no idea how this will play out.
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I wanted to share the unbridled enthusiasm for this round.
I wonder if Tim knows he made a Seinfeld reference there. A deep cut too I might add.
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/3oz8xHEisOJuebgmhq/giphy.gif)
:metal
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I really like Haken and have no idea how this will play out.
Yeah. Seeing all the negativity is kind of surprising at least :lol
But to join the fun; I didn’t send my absolute favourite songs, because I don’t think Tim would like those..
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I really like Haken and have no idea how this will play out.
Yeah. Seeing all the negativity is kind of surprising at least :lol
But to join the fun; I didn’t send my absolute favourite songs, because I don’t think Tim would like those..
I do like Haken, I just know it's not a band for Tim. I expect this to be one of the lowest scoring rounds in roulette history. :corn
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Yeah, I also like Haken, I just don't think it's the right band for Tim. And therefore I just sent two of my favorite songs, without thinking what could be liked by him.
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Sent three songs!
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Sent three songs!
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The bad news.. Evermind did indeed send three songs.
The good news…They’ve all already been sent so it’s no additional songs. ;D
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How many times did you get Prosthetic?
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How many times did you get Prosthetic?
I’m at work so I don’t have access to my worksheet but I think I have it twice.
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I really like Haken and have no idea how this will play out.
Yeah. Seeing all the negativity is kind of surprising at least :lol
I'm never surprised by how many people do or don't like something, because tastes! But I do find the strength of negativity from people who do like prog metal to be quite surprising. Might partly be exaggerated for effect I guess.
Quite curious to know what songs Kade has sampled.
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How many times did you get Prosthetic?
:lol
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Quite curious to know what songs Kade has sampled.
The shitty ones. :lol
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I really like Haken and have no idea how this will play out.
Yeah. Seeing all the negativity is kind of surprising at least :lol
I'm never surprised by how many people do or don't like something, because tastes! But I do find the strength of negativity from people who do like prog metal to be quite surprising. Might partly be exaggerated for effect I guess.
Quite curious to know what songs Kade has sampled.
I am not the biggest prog metal enthusiast to begin with, but most of my hang up is Ross’s voice. But I also don’t care for the heavier stuff they’ve done or the stuff with Cookie Monster vocals.
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I really like Haken and have no idea how this will play out.
Yeah. Seeing all the negativity is kind of surprising at least :lol
I'm never surprised by how many people do or don't like something, because tastes! But I do find the strength of negativity from people who do like prog metal to be quite surprising. Might partly be exaggerated for effect I guess.
Quite curious to know what songs Kade has sampled.
I am not the biggest prog metal enthusiast to begin with, but most of my hang up is Ross’s voice. But I also don’t care for the heavier stuff they’ve done or the stuff with Cookie Monster vocals.
Jeez, what else are you left with? That pretty much covered everything. :lol
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I really like Haken and have no idea how this will play out.
Yeah. Seeing all the negativity is kind of surprising at least :lol
I'm never surprised by how many people do or don't like something, because tastes! But I do find the strength of negativity from people who do like prog metal to be quite surprising. Might partly be exaggerated for effect I guess.
Quite curious to know what songs Kade has sampled.
I am not the biggest prog metal enthusiast to begin with, but most of my hang up is Ross’s voice. But I also don’t care for the heavier stuff they’ve done or the stuff with Cookie Monster vocals.
Jeez, what else are you left with? That pretty much covered everything. :lol
Basically what I sent you!
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How many times did you get Prosthetic?
I’m at work so I don’t have access to my worksheet but I think I have it twice.
If this scores well I'm gonna be salty - I was initially planning on sending it as that's their heaviest song but that strategy was a disaster last round so I sent something else. :lol
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I originally wanted to send Invasion and The Strain but then I sent all my songs from the first three albums because that's what I like and I'm not winning this anyway.
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Sending only songs from Virus definitely would have been a... decision
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I really like Haken and have no idea how this will play out.
Yeah. Seeing all the negativity is kind of surprising at least :lol
I'm never surprised by how many people do or don't like something, because tastes! But I do find the strength of negativity from people who do like prog metal to be quite surprising. Might partly be exaggerated for effect I guess.
Quite curious to know what songs Kade has sampled.
I am not the biggest prog metal enthusiast to begin with, but most of my hang up is Ross’s voice. But I also don’t care for the heavier stuff they’ve done or the stuff with Cookie Monster vocals.
Not sure what you mean about the cookie monster vocals, they've only used harsh vocals on two songs ever (three if you count the demo).
But otherwise, yes I get that Ross seems to be a polarising singer. Personally I love the quality his voice has, but I understand that it doesn't work for others, and that's been the case for ever. That's not really the strong negativity I was referring to though.
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We'll see how it works out for everyone but I don't really see Tim liking Virus better than, say, Visions.
On the conversation about Haken in general... I see how Ross is a polarizing singer. I also think there's a predictable degree of backlash in the last few years because they're sort of seen as *the* prog metal band now and one could argue that their last couple of albums are somewhat generic (I like those albums, but I'd agree with that criticism). Kind of similar to the backlash against Dream Theater when they were *the* prog metal band.
Also, small thing:
Not sure what you mean about the cookie monster vocals, they've only used harsh vocals on two songs ever (three if you count the demo).
*three. The Point of No Return, Streams and The Architect
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Also, small thing:
Not sure what you mean about the cookie monster vocals, they've only used harsh vocals on two songs ever (three if you count the demo).
*three. The Point of No Return, Streams and The Architect
Oh yeah, forgot it was in both No Return and Streams, those first three songs all on Aquarius all kind of blend together. :lol
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Also, small thing:
Not sure what you mean about the cookie monster vocals, they've only used harsh vocals on two songs ever (three if you count the demo).
*three. The Point of No Return, Streams and The Architect
Oh yeah, forgot it was in both No Return and Streams, those first three songs all on Aquarius all kind of blend together. :lol
Yeah, took me back a step to see an anti growl comment about Haken.
I can totally see being polarized about Ross's voice though, it is unique.
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Also, small thing:
Not sure what you mean about the cookie monster vocals, they've only used harsh vocals on two songs ever (three if you count the demo).
*three. The Point of No Return, Streams and The Architect
Oh yeah, forgot it was in both No Return and Streams, those first three songs all on Aquarius all kind of blend together. :lol
I’ve only sampled some individual songs outside the one album I own, so I’m guessing I hit on one with Cookie Monster vocals and assumed it was a more frequent occurrence. What I’ve heard from the last two albums sounded pretty heavy too.
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Also, small thing:
Not sure what you mean about the cookie monster vocals, they've only used harsh vocals on two songs ever (three if you count the demo).
*three. The Point of No Return, Streams and The Architect
Oh yeah, forgot it was in both No Return and Streams, those first three songs all on Aquarius all kind of blend together. :lol
I've listened to The Point of No Return on its own a few times recently; I felt I'd been underestimating it some in the past. So that division is fresh in my mind.
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Also, small thing:
Not sure what you mean about the cookie monster vocals, they've only used harsh vocals on two songs ever (three if you count the demo).
*three. The Point of No Return, Streams and The Architect
Oh yeah, forgot it was in both No Return and Streams, those first three songs all on Aquarius all kind of blend together. :lol
I’ve only sampled some individual songs outside the one album I own, so I’m guessing I hit on one with Cookie Monster vocals and assumed it was a more frequent occurrence. What I’ve heard from the last two albums sounded pretty heavy too.
Yeah the last two albums (which are linked, hence being similar in style) were more consistently dark and heavy than Haken usually are. I don't expect that to be the case for the next album though, as apart from Virus being a direct sequel to Vector, they do something a bit different each time.
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honestly if novena had been allowed in this round i probably would've sent The Tyrant in place of one of the songs i sent
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honestly if novena had been allowed in this round i probably would've sent The Tyrant in place of one of the songs i sent
Everything is allowed...If you want to switch songs, you still can..
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Just waiting on Stadler and Vmadera.
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honestly if novena had been allowed in this round i probably would've sent The Tyrant in place of one of the songs i sent
Everything is allowed...If you want to switch songs, you still can..
Novena is a different band, just with the same singer.
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honestly if novena had been allowed in this round i probably would've sent The Tyrant in place of one of the songs i sent
Everything is allowed...If you want to switch songs, you still can..
Novena is a different band, just with the same singer.
Oh, gotcha! Why would I do that? :lol
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novena is basically just haken again but sometimes a guy shows up half-drunk from spoken word poetry night
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novena is basically just haken again but sometimes a guy shows up half-drunk from spoken word poetry night
I started this thread half drunk.
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i can tell :lol
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novena is basically just haken again but sometimes a guy shows up half-drunk from spoken word poetry night
I started this thread half drunk.
See kids, this is why you shouldn't post while drinking. ;)
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novena is basically just haken again but sometimes a guy shows up half-drunk from spoken word poetry night
I love Novena and Gareth especially, but this still made me lol. :lol
novena is basically just haken again but sometimes a guy shows up half-drunk from spoken word poetry night
I started this thread half drunk.
See kids, this is why you shouldn't post while drinking. ;)
The success of round 1 is rather good evidence to the contrary.
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novena is basically just haken again but sometimes a guy shows up half-drunk from spoken word poetry night
I love Novena and Gareth especially, but this still made me lol. :lol
novena is basically just haken again but sometimes a guy shows up half-drunk from spoken word poetry night
I started this thread half drunk.
See kids, this is why you shouldn't post while drinking. ;)
The success of round 1 is rather good evidence to the contrary.
Indeed! I think we made a believer out of Tim, at least with regards to Devin Townsend. Which is a huge win in my book. :metal
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Not too confident in my submissions but sent!
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The Tyrant is :metal
Corazon is also :metal but like less :metal but still awesome!
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Just waiting for one more...
Where's Stadler??
Found him!
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Quite curious to know what songs Kade has sampled.
The shitty ones. :lol
That's all I found. :lol
Honestly, I sampled quite a lot. There was only one song I found that was decent and it would be easy to pick which one it was.
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So, I listened to three songs last night and they were all pretty decent.
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Everyone sent the same three songs?
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Everyone sent the same three songs?
Pretty much! :lol
I have everyone except Stadler. That's 16 people sending 2 songs each, and the playlist is only 18 songs.
I'll post stats once Stadler submits.
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Stads is generally not really online at all over the weekend. In my recent roulette, I mostly got Friday submissions from him as I was usually posting results quite early on Friday (quite often before the Americans had even woken up). Whereas later Friday results probably means no Stadler submission until Monday. Just FYI.
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honestly if novena had been allowed in this round i probably would've sent The Tyrant in place of one of the songs i sent
Everything is allowed...If you want to switch songs, you still can..
Novena is a different band, just with the same singer.
Well that explains why I can't stand Novena either!
novena is basically just haken again but sometimes a guy shows up half-drunk from spoken word poetry night
I started this thread half drunk.
See kids, this is why you shouldn't post while drinking. ;)
The format of this roulette is definitely a cry for :help:
Quite curious to know what songs Kade has sampled.
The shitty ones. :lol
That's all I found. :lol
Honestly, I sampled quite a lot. There was only one song I found that was decent and it would be easy to pick which one it was.
I'll assume Haken's shortest song?
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novena is basically just haken again but sometimes a guy shows up half-drunk from spoken word poetry night
I love Novena and Gareth especially, but this still made me lol. :lol
novena's debut is the best haken album since the mountain and fairly effortlessly so, i like it a lot :lol
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honestly if novena had been allowed in this round i probably would've sent The Tyrant in place of one of the songs i sent
Everything is allowed...If you want to switch songs, you still can..
Novena is a different band with Haken's singer in it, though.
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honestly if novena had been allowed in this round i probably would've sent The Tyrant in place of one of the songs i sent
Everything is allowed...If you want to switch songs, you still can..
Novena is a different band with Haken's singer in it, though.
I heard that. :lol
Stads is generally not really online at all over the weekend. In my recent roulette, I mostly got Friday submissions from him as I was usually posting results quite early on Friday (quite often before the Americans had even woken up). Whereas later Friday results probably means no Stadler submission until Monday. Just FYI.
Oh I know that, though when I get up for work, it's only 9am over there.
We built a whole narrative about Stadler going to the spa on weekends when he was the secretary for my anonymous roulette. The above pic was a throwback to that.
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I'll assume Haken's shortest song?
Short instrumental intros weren't allowed.
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So, I listened to three songs last night and they were all pretty decent.
WTF is going on?
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Everyone sent the same three songs?
Pretty much! :lol
I have everyone except Stadler. That's 16 people sending 2 songs each, and the playlist is only 18 songs.
I'll post stats once Stadler submits.
:lol guess my submissions are not that unique.
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So, I listened to three songs last night and they were all pretty decent.
WTF is going on?
It's Bizarro-TAC
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Everyone sent the same three songs?
Pretty much! :lol
I have everyone except Stadler. That's 16 people sending 2 songs each, and the playlist is only 18 songs.
I'll post stats once Stadler submits.
:lol guess my submissions are not that unique.
Only ONE person sent TWO songs that are unique only to them.
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Gonna be a short round then.
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Gonna be a short round then.
It's still 2h24m, with Stadler still to send.
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I'd still take Ross Jennings over Damian Wilson.
Actually the playlist only has 17 songs. Somehow The Path snuck in there.
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I'd still take Ross Jennings over Damian Wilson.
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One of my surprise albums in 2018 was Structural Disorder's ...and the Cage Crumbles In The Final Scene (https://open.spotify.com/album/3IiK4cckIsfbDFEBztjKVZ?si=EXEuyZWXRMGu6X2zKp9qXA)
So far...Haken sounds like a heavier and more progressive version. I hear a lot of that album in what I've heard so far.
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:rollin :rollin :rollin
Ross Jingles!
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One of my surprise albums in 2018 was Structural Disorder's ...and the Cage Crumbles In The Final Scene (https://open.spotify.com/album/3IiK4cckIsfbDFEBztjKVZ?si=EXEuyZWXRMGu6X2zKp9qXA)
So far...Haken sounds like a heavier and more progressive version. I hear a lot of that album in what I've heard so far.
oh yeah no this album was a total and blatant haken ripoff, but like, really good so who cares lol
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One of my surprise albums in 2018 was Structural Disorder's ...and the Cage Crumbles In The Final Scene (https://open.spotify.com/album/3IiK4cckIsfbDFEBztjKVZ?si=EXEuyZWXRMGu6X2zKp9qXA)
So far...Haken sounds like a heavier and more progressive version. I hear a lot of that album in what I've heard so far.
oh yeah no this album was a total and blatant haken ripoff, but like, really good so who cares lol
Totally!
It's really standing out in the song I'm listening to now.
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Yeah I remember when I heard that album thinking "hey cool, Haken are now big enough that they're influencing other bands!"
As you say though Cyril, it does go into rip-off territory at times. :lol
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That's promising for us, especially those who submitted older stuff.
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I bet at least one, if not both, of the songs I sent were sent by someone else as well.
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Novena is a different band with Haken's singer in it, though.
I heard that. :lol
Damn, sorry, missed the turn to the next page. :lol
Actually the playlist only has 17 songs. Somehow The Path snuck in there.
So someone probably sent Atlas Stone, which wouldn't be all that surprising.
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Everyone sent the same three songs?
Pretty much! :lol
I have everyone except Stadler. That's 16 people sending 2 songs each, and the playlist is only 18 songs.
I'll post stats once Stadler submits.
:lol guess my submissions are not that unique.
Only ONE person sent TWO songs that are unique only to them.
Maybe me? :corn
I'd still take Ross Jennings over Damian Wilson.
Speaking truth right there!
So someone probably sent Atlas Stone, which wouldn't be all that surprising.
Wouldn't surprise me.
Now was anyone drunk enough to send Cockroach King?
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Cockroach King is, I think, literally the last song I would consider sending in this round.
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Everyone sent the same three songs?
Pretty much! :lol
I have everyone except Stadler. That's 16 people sending 2 songs each, and the playlist is only 18 songs.
I'll post stats once Stadler submits.
:lol guess my submissions are not that unique.
Only ONE person sent TWO songs that are unique only to them.
Maybe me? :corn
No. In fact one other person sent the exact same two songs as you did.
I don't want to go too deep into the stats until Stadler sends.
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Cockroach King is, I think, literally the last song I would consider sending in this round.
I'm sure at least one person sent that song.
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cockroach king would have been incredibly funny to send but i'm not funny enough to have sent it, sadly
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Everyone sent the same three songs?
Pretty much! :lol
I have everyone except Stadler. That's 16 people sending 2 songs each, and the playlist is only 18 songs.
I'll post stats once Stadler submits.
:lol guess my submissions are not that unique.
Only ONE person sent TWO songs that are unique only to them.
Maybe me? :corn
No. In fact one other person sent the exact same two songs as you did.
Wow, color me surprised.
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Pretty sure nobody else sent my 2nd song.
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Pretty sure nobody else sent my 2nd song.
You sent Crystallized didn't you....
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Pretty sure nobody else sent my 2nd song.
You sent Crystallized didn't you....
Fuck no! That’s my least favorite of their 15+ minute so- oh wait Messiah Complex exists. Nevermind.
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Pretty sure nobody else sent my 2nd song.
At least one other person did.
But I don't want any sent songs named until Stadler sends.
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Pretty sure nobody else sent my 2nd song.
You sent Crystallized didn't you....
Fuck no! That’s my least favorite of their 15+ minute so- oh wait Messiah Complex exists. Nevermind.
:neverusethis:
I'm trying to nail down my BtBaM submission. Still haven't settled on both songs. Initially I was just going to send The Ectopic Stroll and Voice of Trespass, but that might be too much weirdness for TAC :corn
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Gonna be a short round then.
It's still 2h24m, with Stadler still to send.
You poor bastard.
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my BTBAM picks are probably not great but they make the most sense to me
idk how to sell BTBAM to TAC anyways, though, so whatever
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my BTBAM picks are probably not great but they make the most sense to me
idk how to sell BTBAM to TAC anyways, though, so whatever
I was doing a deep dive on them in the BTBAM Thread before the new DT came out.
I thought Colors and The Great Misdirect were really good. And I liked their first album.
I thought I'd use roulette round to finish them off so I won't have to. :lol
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idk how to sell BTBAM to TAC anyways, though, so whatever
Send Autumn and Sfumato :biggrin:
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if you liked colors and TGM then i'm pretty sure i made good choices :corn
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if you liked colors and TGM then i'm pretty sure i made good choices :corn
:corn
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Just assume Stads will send 2 of the already sent songs. I can't believe we were all so in sync.
I had to run out today and listened to the run of The Mind's Eye / Portals / Shapeshifter from Visions. Why is that not one song? It is to me and that is how I ripped it to my iPod. One cohesive 17+ minute track and my favorite piece from them. I honestly would have sent that had it been one song, even at the long length. Visions is still my favorite album of theirs.
I really wanted to send 1985 but chickened out. Didn't feel TAC would like it or might find it corny. They so nailed the retro on that song.
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Just assume Stads will send 2 of the already sent songs. I can't believe we were all so in sync.
I had to run out today and listened to the run of The Mind's Eye / Portals / Shapeshifter from Visions. Why is that not one song? It is to me and that is how I ripped it to my iPod. One cohesive 17+ minute track and my favorite piece from them. I honestly would have sent that had it been one song, even at the long length. Visions is still my favorite album of theirs.
I really wanted to send 1985 but chickened out. Didn't feel TAC would like it or might find it corny. They so nailed the retro on that song.
:corn
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Just assume Stads will send 2 of the already sent songs. I can't believe we were all so in sync.
I had to run out today and listened to the run of The Mind's Eye / Portals / Shapeshifter from Visions. Why is that not one song? It is to me and that is how I ripped it to my iPod. One cohesive 17+ minute track and my favorite piece from them. I honestly would have sent that had it been one song, even at the long length. Visions is still my favorite album of theirs.
I really wanted to send 1985 but chickened out. Didn't feel TAC would like it or might find it corny. They so nailed the retro on that song.
:corn
:corn
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Just assume Stads will send 2 of the already sent songs. I can't believe we were all so in sync.
I had to run out today and listened to the run of The Mind's Eye / Portals / Shapeshifter from Visions. Why is that not one song? It is to me and that is how I ripped it to my iPod. One cohesive 17+ minute track and my favorite piece from them. I honestly would have sent that had it been one song, even at the long length. Visions is still my favorite album of theirs.
I really wanted to send 1985 but chickened out. Didn't feel TAC would like it or might find it corny. They so nailed the retro on that song.
:corn
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Just assume Stads will send 2 of the already sent songs. I can't believe we were all so in sync.
I had to run out today and listened to the run of The Mind's Eye / Portals / Shapeshifter from Visions. Why is that not one song? It is to me and that is how I ripped it to my iPod. One cohesive 17+ minute track and my favorite piece from them. I honestly would have sent that had it been one song, even at the long length. Visions is still my favorite album of theirs.
I really wanted to send 1985 but chickened out. Didn't feel TAC would like it or might find it corny. They so nailed the retro on that song.
:corn
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Okay how many people sent 1985 :lol
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I did not send 1985. I think it's a solid song but I don't really get why it's so beloved compared even to other songs on the same album.
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1985 isn't even that good :corn
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I did not send 1985. I think it's a solid song but I don't really get why it's so beloved compared even to other songs on the same album.
My thoughts exactly.
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Just assume Stads will send 2 of the already sent songs. I can't believe we were all so in sync.
I had to run out today and listened to the run of The Mind's Eye / Portals / Shapeshifter from Visions. Why is that not one song? It is to me and that is how I ripped it to my iPod. One cohesive 17+ minute track and my favorite piece from them. I honestly would have sent that had it been one song, even at the long length. Visions is still my favorite album of theirs.
I really wanted to send 1985 but chickened out. Didn't feel TAC would like it or might find it corny. They so nailed the retro on that song.
:corn
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Kind of hard to predict what or if any later BTBAM Tim would like. Probably just gotta throw a couple of songs you like in there and hope for the best.
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This is actually really difficult. With BTBAM, I don't listen to songs and look at each track as a different song. I always put on one of their CD's and listen to the whole thing as a singular experience, a whole one piece if that makes sense. I find each of their albums and one of the only bands where I don't even really know the song names I'm listening to half the time as the whole album is the complete experience. Trying to pick apart 2 different songs is near impossible.
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I agree Kade, BTBAM are all about albums really, even many of the songs that are more distinctive often segue in and/or out of other ones.
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I agree Kade, BTBAM are all about albums really, even many of the songs that are more distinctive often segue in and/or out of other ones.
So should we all just agree to pick 2-3 albums and everyone sends a different song from those albums (to avoid repetition) :lol
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I don’t mind repetition, really. ;D
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I did not send 1985. I think it's a solid song but I don't really get why it's so beloved compared even to other songs on the same album.
Well, I'm not sending my favorites from every artist. I'm analyzing every track and trying to decide if he'll like it or not. I didn't send my favorite Devin and kind of sent one fave from Haken. I know I'm not sending faves from Neal and Opeth.
1985 felt like a track that he would like based on his like for the older music and such. I just bailed and went another direction which I felt was safer (and will probably blow up in my face). :lol
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1985 isn't even that good :corn
It's only their best song. :corn
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1985 isn't even that good :corn
It's only their best song. :corn
Oooh, that might be stretching it a bit, but you aren't far off. :metal
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Stadler is in and…. no new songs! :lol
Going to my MiL’s this afternoon. Stats later today.
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1985 is awesome, plus I imagine Tim will at least find it enjoyable.
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That time Ross posed for me during 1985...
(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/158139211_197379848821063_7336886624637109801_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=tn4SuO-_DFAAX-nOl_X&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=fc71fab5ff6c87f41fd798ebb647a112&oe=61B52CCF)
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1985 is awesome, plus I imagine Tim will at least find it enjoyable.
:corn
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(https://i.postimg.cc/159V4qYr/20181104-222108.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w3GjG7z1)
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1985 isn't even that good :corn
It's only their best song. :corn
I just cannot comprehend thinking this of the band that recorded Celestial Elixir, Visions and Falling Back to Earth. It's like saying Peruvian Skies is Dream Theater's best song. Tastes are super weird.
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i literally do not remember what 1985 sounds like to be fair
affinity has not stuck with me even a tiny bit. thoroughly average album in hindsight.
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their desiiiiiign shifting frame by fraaaaaame
I had to remind myself too, and I think I like Affinity better than you do.
I literally think I would only rank 1985 ahead of Initiate among the real songs on that album.
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That time Ross posed for me during 1985...
That time I had a drink with Ross before the Novena show two weeks ago. :P
I just cannot comprehend thinking this of the band that recorded Celestial Elixir, Visions and Falling Back to Earth. It's like saying Peruvian Skies is Dream Theater's best song. Tastes are super weird.
Whereas I can't comprehend your logic as those three songs are all completely different to each other, so I don't get the comparison (other than presumably you loving all those songs). Tastes are super awesome.
In terms of Affinity, the run of Earthrise - Red Giant - The Endless Knot is where it's at for me, but 1985 ranks just behind those three.
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I just cannot comprehend thinking this of the band that recorded Celestial Elixir, Visions and Falling Back to Earth. It's like saying Peruvian Skies is Dream Theater's best song. Tastes are super weird.
Whereas I can't comprehend your logic as those three songs are all completely different to each other, so I don't get the comparison (other than presumably you loving all those songs). Tastes are super awesome.
Yeah, it's not a matter of style, it's a matter of perceived quality, which I'm obviously not arguing is objectively provable (I don't want to range that wildly in this thread). I could have named other examples, but those are three songs that I think are way better than 1985 (and that I think tend to be popular among Haken fans).
It's like if I compared Peruvian Skies to Metropolis, The Glass Prison and Octavarium. To me, those three songs are far better than Peruvian Skies. And so I would be surprised (:neverusethis:) if someone liked Peruvian Skies better. I have similar feelings of surprise at people liking 1985 better than Celestial Elixir, Visions and Falling Back to Earth. But it's not a personal criticism, just a discussion of preferences.
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Telling on myself, but 1985 is the only reason I own a Haken album.
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I just cannot comprehend thinking this of the band that recorded Celestial Elixir, Visions and Falling Back to Earth. It's like saying Peruvian Skies is Dream Theater's best song. Tastes are super weird.
Whereas I can't comprehend your logic as those three songs are all completely different to each other, so I don't get the comparison (other than presumably you loving all those songs). Tastes are super awesome.
Yeah, it's not a matter of style, it's a matter of perceived quality, which I'm obviously not arguing is objectively provable (I don't want to range that wildly in this thread). I could have named other examples, but those are three songs that I think are way better than 1985 (and that I think tend to be popular among Haken fans).
It's like if I compared Peruvian Skies to Metropolis, The Glass Prison and Octavarium. To me, those three songs are far better than Peruvian Skies. And so I would be surprised (:neverusethis:) if someone liked Peruvian Skies better. I have similar feelings of surprise at people liking 1985 better than Celestial Elixir, Visions and Falling Back to Earth. But it's not a personal criticism, just a discussion of preferences.
Yeah of course, I guess for me it's precisely because they're all different in style (including 1985), that I don't at all find it odd or unusual or surprising that some people will like some more than others. I love all four of those songs, but some others that are mostly loved (like The Architect) I find pretty much weaker.
Ultimately for me it comes down to the fact that Haken are one of those bands whose talent and songwriting are just consistently excellent, and so the songs than any fan likes more or less (or in some cases even dislikes) is mostly going to come down to taste in terms of style.
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Peruvian Skies is an awesome track! And so is 1985!
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Peruvian Skies is better than 1985
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Maybe
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If we’re comparing 1985 to DT songs, it’s a lot closer musically/sonically to something like Take the Time or Innocence Faded than Peruvian Skies. Also reminds me a good bit of an album I know TAC hates, so interested to see what the reaction is.
:corn
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I agree with the musical comparison. Peruvian Skies was just my go-to choice of a DT song that I think general consensus holds is good, but not among their best.
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I agree with the musical comparison. Peruvian Skies was just my go-to choice of a DT song that I think general consensus holds is good, but not among their best.
I don't know what songs Haken fans generally prefer, but it makes sense that DT fans would also like 1985.
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I agree Kade, BTBAM are all about albums really, even many of the songs that are more distinctive often segue in and/or out of other ones.
Absolutrly. The songs on their own for me seem only a piece of a full puzzle. You need every song of the album to connect a gigantic masterpiece.
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Stats!
17 participants...34 song entries, but due to duplications the round is only:
17 songs at 2h22m
1985 and Prosthetic were both sent 4 times
Kwyjibo is the only one that sent TWO songs that no one else did.
Puppies and Ariich sent the same two songs.
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Puppies and Ariich sent the same two songs.
I figured after the last round, if I can't beat Ariich, join him! :biggrin:
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1985 and Prosthetic were both sent by times
Wait....how many times? :lol
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1985 and Prosthetic were both sent by times
Wait....how many times? :lol
:lol Fixed!
Puppies and Ariich sent the same two songs.
I figured after the last round, if I can't beat Ariich, join him! :biggrin:
That's the first thing I thought. :lol
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So, did I send at least one unique song, or not?
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Puppies and Ariich sent the same two songs.
I figured after the last round, if I can't beat Ariich, join him! :biggrin:
o/
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1985 and Prosthetic were both sent by times
Wait....how many times? :lol
How's it feel Tim? :lol
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So, did I send at least one unique song, or not?
Yes.
Elite, Lonestar, Professor, and HOF all sent one unique song.
1985 and Prosthetic were both sent by times
Wait....how many times? :lol
How's it feel Tim? :lol
I'm not even going to begin to explain how that happened. :lol
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And now you know :lol
So is both my songs send by multiple people?
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And now you know :lol
Oh, I know. :lol
So is are both my songs sendt by multiple people?
Fixed! ;D
and yes!
I'll post the songs once we flip to the next page in a couple of posts..
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:biggrin: :lol
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honestly surprised nobody else doubled up on the specific songs i sent, which means that i'm probably gunning for a bottom 3 spot again :lol
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honestly surprised nobody else doubled up on the specific songs i sent, which means that i'm probably gunning for a bottom 3 spot again :lol
Both of your songs were sent by other people.
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See..
Cyril
Falling Back To Earth
Pareidolia
Romdrums
The Endless Knot
Pareidolia
LudwigVan
Prosthetic
The Endless Knot
Kingshmegland
Veil
Carousel
Lonestar
Darkest Light
Atlas Stone
Buddy
Veil
1985
Kwyjibo
Nocturnal Conspiracy
Deathless
425
Drowning In The Flood
In Memoriam
Elite
Puzzle Box
The Strain
HOF
1985
Lapse
Ariich
Falling Back To Earth
1985
Wolfking
Prosthetic
Puzzle Box
Puppies
Falling Back To Earth
1985
Evermind
Pareidolia
Drowning In The Flood
ProfessorPeart
Prosthetic
Shapeshifter
Vmadera
Darkest Light
Puzzle Box
Stadler
Prosthetic
Carousel
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7fqOhZQUxeCGzGrzrVLCHU?si=bdf62ffdd186400e
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So I sent a unique song as well, right? No one else sent In Memoriam.
Besides myself, I'm rooting for Cyril and Evermind (and not just because he and I both sent Drowning in the Flood). Pareidolia is a great song.
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So I sent a unique song as well, right? No one else sent In Memoriam.
Besides myself, I'm rooting for Cyril and Evermind (and not just because he and I both sent Drowning in the Flood). Pareidolia is a great song.
Well, technically, Evermind sent In Memoriam too as he used his Wild Card™. ;D
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That doesn't bode great for me! But thanks for the clarification.
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That doesn't bode great for me!
Well, it means that there are at least two songs that will beat it, but one of them is your other song.
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True! Now I have to root for Evermind and Cyril even harder. And romdrums!
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Wow, surprised Darkest Light was the one sent twice, I sent that to try and not get a repeat.
Was very close to sending Pareidolia as well. Also surprised no one sent Earthrise
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Wow, surprised Darkest Light was the one sent twice, I sent that to try and not get a repeat.
After one listen, I'm surprised it was sent at all.
I'm kidding. ;D
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Oh you....
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honestly surprised nobody else doubled up on the specific songs i sent, which means that i'm probably gunning for a bottom 3 spot again :lol
Both of your songs were sent by other people.
yeah but nobody sent the same two songs as me, i mean :lol
both were sent three times in total though which does not surprise me at all
in memoriam losing the wildcard also doesn't surprise me because it's the weakest track on the mountain ;D
on one hand i understand drowning in the flood as a song pick but also i don't think the entire slower back half is gonna do much for TAC, we'll see i guess, i'm probably completely wrong :lol
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honestly surprised nobody else doubled up on the specific songs i sent, which means that i'm probably gunning for a bottom 3 spot again :lol
Both of your songs were sent by other people.
yeah but nobody sent the same two songs as me, i mean :lol
Well, at least Ariich also sent one of your songs, so you really do have a chance. :lol
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I'm a little disappointed nobody manned up and sent Cockroach King.
Personally I don't like that song, but I think Tim's reaction to it would be funny. :corn
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I'm a little disappointed nobody manned up and sent Cockroach King.
Personally I don't like that song, but I think Tim's reaction to it would be funny. :corn
I'm doing second listens tonight, so I'm off to a good start for the week. If someone reminds me, I'll bang it out after Results.
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cockroach king is an unironic masterpiece and probably my second favorite off the album (behind only falling back to earth, of course) and would have been incredibly funny to watch TAC dunk on
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I'm surprised more didn't send Atlas Stone. I didn't because I though so many others would send it.
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I'm surprised more didn't send Atlas Stone. I didn't because I though so many others would send it.
You still sent songs that other people sent. Even Stadler. :lol
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Stads had his family weekend and went, "Oh shit!" and screwed me. :lol
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Stads had his family weekend and went, "Oh shit!" and screwed me. :lol
Took the family bowling and showed off in front of the boys!
(https://i.imgur.com/Stdjg7u.jpg)
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I had a blast making those pics. Lol
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I had a blast making those pics. Lol
Good times!
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in memoriam losing the wildcard also doesn't surprise me because it's the weakest track on the mountain ;D
on one hand i understand drowning in the flood as a song pick but also i don't think the entire slower back half is gonna do much for TAC, we'll see i guess, i'm probably completely wrong :lol
I think In Memoriam is their best heavy short song, which I thought would be a good place to be if Tim turns out to still just not be a fan of Haken.
I went with Drowning in the Flood because I wanted something off Aquarius (which is essentially tied with The Mountain as my favorite Haken album) and Celestial Elixir felt a little too risky because length and circus. I nearly doubled down on Aquarius songs with Drowning in the Flood and Eternal Rain, but decided to go for a bit of diversity.
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in memoriam losing the wildcard also doesn't surprise me because it's the weakest track on the mountain ;D
on one hand i understand drowning in the flood as a song pick but also i don't think the entire slower back half is gonna do much for TAC, we'll see i guess, i'm probably completely wrong :lol
I think In Memoriam is their best heavy short song, which I thought would be a good place to be if Tim turns out to still just not be a fan of Haken.
I went with Drowning in the Flood because I wanted something off Aquarius (which is essentially tied with The Mountain as my favorite Haken album) and Celestial Elixir felt a little too risky because length and circus. I nearly doubled down on Aquarius songs with Drowning in the Flood and Eternal Rain, but decided to go for a bit of diversity.
I almost went with Celestial Elixir too and The Architect, but didn't want to overwhelm Tim with length. ;)
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I think it would've been cool to see how Celestial Elixir did, but I'm not confident enough in it to put my own points on the line in this roulette.
Interesting to see the spread across albums. We have:
Aquarius: 1 song, 2 submissions
Visions: 3 songs, 3 submissions
The Mountain: 4 songs, 8 submissions
Restoration: 1 song, 2 submissions
Affinity: 3 songs, 7 submissions
Vector: 2 songs, 5 submissions
Virus: 3 songs, 7 submissions
I'm surprised at how popular the newer material is for this. Less so for Affinity, which I expected to be second to The Mountain, but it's a little surprising to see Vector with as many submissions as the first two albums combined, and Virus with as many as the first two albums and Restoration combined.
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I think it would've been cool to see how Celestial Elixir did, but I'm not confident enough in it to put my own points on the line in this roulette.
Interesting to see the spread across albums. We have:
Aquarius: 1 song, 2 submissions
Visions: 3 songs, 3 submissions
The Mountain: 4 songs, 8 submissions
Restoration: 1 song, 2 submissions
Affinity: 3 songs, 7 submissions
Vector: 2 songs, 5 submissions
Virus: 3 songs, 7 submissions
I'm surprised at how popular the newer material is for this. Less so for Affinity, which I expected to be second to The Mountain, but it's a little surprising to see Vector with as many submissions as the first two albums combined, and Virus with as many as the first two albums and Restoration combined.
(https://i.imgflip.com/5u6qum.jpg)
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:lol You're welcome
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We all have "The heavier, the better" with TAC in mind.
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We all have "The heavier, the better" with TAC in mind.
But that's not always the smartest move. Yeah, I like metal, but I really want to know what makes these bands special. I don't listen to Dream Theater for their metal side. I like that they take a metal styled interpretation of progressive rock.
That's why sending HEAVY Devin or HEAVY Haken could prove risky.
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Safe Devy didn't work. It wasn't heavy or exploratory enough. Changed that this round.
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Safe Devy didn't work. It wasn't heavy or exploratory enough. Changed that this round.
Well, you sent the 9th best song....and the 3rd worst. ;D
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Exactly.
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Kingshmegland
Veil
Ah, I see you’re a man of taste as well.
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Wait, there's heavy Haken??
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Wait, there's heavy Haken??
It's all relative. :dunno:
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Very interesting submissions, almost all songs I love but some I wouldn't have sent Tim as an introduction so will be fascinated to see what he thinks.
Elite
Puzzle Box
The Strain
Thank you to Richard for sending the two songs that my brother had guest appearances on. :lol Apart from Only Stars obviously. I considered those songs (well, mainly Puzzle Box) as I love them plus to support Pete, but I wasn't sure about Tim's attitude towards the electronic percussion sections so ended up going with songs I thought would be safer.
I think In Memoriam is their best heavy short song, which I thought would be a good place to be if Tim turns out to still just not be a fan of Haken.
In Memoriam is brilliant, I considered it too. I might slightly prefer The Endless Knot but yet those two are awesome short, heavy songs.
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Kwyjibo is the only one that sent TWO songs that no one else did.
This is a good sign, is it? :)
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Very interesting submissions, almost all songs I love but some I wouldn't have sent Tim as an introduction so will be fascinated to see what he thinks.
Elite
Puzzle Box
The Strain
Thank you to Richard for sending the two songs that my brother had guest appearances on. :lol Apart from Only Stars obviously. I considered those songs (well, mainly Puzzle Box) as I love them plus to support Pete, but I wasn't sure about Tim's attitude towards the electronic percussion sections so ended up going with songs I thought would be safer.
:lol
I found it quite difficult to pick two songs as well, mainly because I was unsure what Tim would think of the longer songs the band has. I decided to go with two relatively short ones that also go well together. (The Puzzle Box 'reprise' in The Strain for example, but also indeed the softer sections). These are not my favourite Haken songs, although they would be top 10-15, in fact I'm a little surprised myself that I went with two tracks from their latest two albums, but I hipe they'll do well. There's enough to love in both tracks.
Also, nobody sent Invasion :(
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Some morning thoughts as everyone ahakens.
Sorry, that was awful.
So....after TWO listens...
This is a great bunch of tunes. A handful are EXCELLENT!
The vocals are a non issue, bitches.
Lots of DT here.
One of the guitarists tunes low. I don't like that.
Of the two songs that were sent the most, right now Prosthetic > 1985.
First Impressions will be posted when I get home from work this afternoon.
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Not sure if we can be friends anymore Tim.
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One of the guitarists tunes low. I don't like that.
Well, shit :lol
A lot of their songs use extended range guitars (7 or 8-strings), and sometimes the eighth string is even tuned to a low E instead of F# (in 1985 for example). Of the ones I sent, Puzzle Box is played on 7 strings, and I'm pretty sure The Strain doesn't go lower than that low B either.
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Kwyjibo is the only one that sent TWO songs that no one else did.
This is a good sign, is it? :)
You might want to check your sig. :lol
Not sure if we can be friends anymore Tim.
You’re losing a DTF friend every week it seems! :rollin
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Not sure if we can be friends anymore Tim.
We’re still good. I’ll just have to leave you home for the Haken concert. ;D
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If vocs aren't an issue, we're all sitting pretty.
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If vocs aren't an issue, we're all sitting pretty.
You’re all pretty. It’s just a matter of who’s prettier?
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Not sure if we can be friends anymore Tim.
We’re still good. I’ll just have to leave you home for the Haken concert. ;D
They're fun to watch live. Trust me, I've seen them a couple of times already :lol
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Not sure if we can be friends anymore Tim.
We’re still good. I’ll just have to leave you home for the Haken concert. ;D
They're fun to watch live. Trust me, I've seen them a couple of times already :lol
The one time I saw them they were playing DT songs only :lol
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Not sure if we can be friends anymore Tim.
We’re still good. I’ll just have to leave you home for the Haken concert. ;D
They're fun to watch live. Trust me, I've seen them a couple of times already :lol
The one time I saw them they were playing DT songs only :lol
Still bitter they didn't bring that one to the west coast.
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Not sure if we can be friends anymore Tim.
We’re still good. I’ll just have to leave you home for the Haken concert. ;D
They're fun to watch live. Trust me, I've seen them a couple of times already :lol
The one time I saw them they were playing DT songs only :lol
#justiceforray
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This is a great bunch of tunes. A handful are EXCELLENT!
The vocals are a non issue, bitches.
Gonna be wild if every round turns out to be a huge success.
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This is a great bunch of tunes. A handful are EXCELLENT!
The vocals are a non issue, bitches.
Gonna be wild if every round turns out to be a huge success.
Steven Wilson:
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Very interesting submissions, almost all songs I love but some I wouldn't have sent Tim as an introduction so will be fascinated to see what he thinks.
Elite
Puzzle Box
The Strain
Thank you to Richard for sending the two songs that my brother had guest appearances on. :lol Apart from Only Stars obviously. I considered those songs (well, mainly Puzzle Box) as I love them plus to support Pete, but I wasn't sure about Tim's attitude towards the electronic percussion sections so ended up going with songs I thought would be safer.
:lol
I found it quite difficult to pick two songs as well, mainly because I was unsure what Tim would think of the longer songs the band has. I decided to go with two relatively short ones that also go well together. (The Puzzle Box 'reprise' in The Strain for example, but also indeed the softer sections). These are not my favourite Haken songs, although they would be top 10-15, in fact I'm a little surprised myself that I went with two tracks from their latest two albums, but I hipe they'll do well. There's enough to love in both tracks.
Also, nobody sent Invasion :(
I was THISCLOSE to sending Invasion, actually. I cut it at the last minute for another song from that album.
Look, I wasn't a Haken fan going in, and I'm still not, but those mofo's can PLAY. It's about MY taste, not them sucking, for sure.
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My tastes tell me they suck.
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Why are Haken so polarizing?
@LudwigVan, I want your opinion on this as well.
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I bet Tim's gonna love the dubstep bit in The Endless Knot :lol
I actually thought In Memoriam would do really well. Good thing I used that wild card thing then.
Falling Back to Earth is my favourite song from The Mountain, but I thought Tim would like Pareidolia more. We'll see!
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Why are Haken so polarizing?
For me, I find absolutely nothing appealing in Ross' voice. Their technical wankery to me is a hot mess more often than not, and I find no cohesion in the structure of their songs because of it. It's like they're showing off their skills just because they can, not because it makes sense - which is also much of the reason i've got little interest in AVFTTOTW.
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Thanks Chad.
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Falling Back to Earth is my favourite song from The Mountain, but I thought Tim would like Pareidolia more. We'll see!
:corn
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Thanks Chad.
It's been a long time since I spun them, but it wasn't for lack of trying. I gave them many, many chances... they just never clicked. I'm sure if I revisited them again, I'd find a few more things to specify why they don't 'click', but from memory, those were the big things. I also don't remember any memorable riffs or hooks - like their technical mastery buried any interesting melodies.
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That’s fair.
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I will say that while I am a fan I think they are overrated on this forum; Affinity is my favorite album of theirs and even that's only like a 7/10 for me. Especially The Mountain; I do not get the extreme praise for that album at all. It's got some decent songs, but if I were say, ranking it amongst the Dream Theater discography it wouldn't even crack the top half.
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Why are Haken so polarizing?
For me, I find absolutely nothing appealing in Ross' voice. Their technical wankery to me is a hot mess more often than not, and I find no cohesion in the structure of their songs because of it. It's like they're showing off their skills just because they can, not because it makes sense - which is also much of the reason i've got little interest in AVFTTOTW.
FWIW, with Affinity I remember thinking, “this is the kind of stuff DT should be writing.” There’s minimal wankery on it, though I also agree Ross’ voice is about as bland as it gets.
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Why are Haken so polarizing?
For me, I find absolutely nothing appealing in Ross' voice. Their technical wankery to me is a hot mess more often than not, and I find no cohesion in the structure of their songs because of it. It's like they're showing off their skills just because they can, not because it makes sense - which is also much of the reason i've got little interest in AVFTTOTW.
See, that's me. It just seems so mechanical. I'm sure that's not the way the hard core fans feel, but for me, it's just very cold. I've listened a fair amount and nothing puts the hairs up on the back of my arm.
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Ross's voice has grown on me over time. On the first three albums he definitely sounds a bit strained and kinda nasally on the high notes, but from Affinity onwards it feels like he has a better control over his voice and he's gotten better at being more expressive, too. I can definitely see why people wouldn't like him but I wouldn't call him "plain" either, his voice definitely has a unique quality to it.
His soft voice on songs like As Death Embraces is also incredibly beautiful; shame he doesn't get to use it too often.
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See, that's me. It just seems so mechanical. I'm sure that's not the way the hard core fans feel, but for me, it's just very cold. I've listened a fair amount and nothing puts the hairs up on the back of my arm.
I feel a little bit this way about the last two albums, but definitely not the first three.
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Not sure if we can be friends anymore Tim.
We’re still good. I’ll just have to leave you home for the Haken concert. ;D
I'll have dinner ready for when you get home.
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Why are Haken so polarizing?
For me, I find absolutely nothing appealing in Ross' voice. Their technical wankery to me is a hot mess more often than not, and I find no cohesion in the structure of their songs because of it. It's like they're showing off their skills just because they can, not because it makes sense - which is also much of the reason i've got little interest in AVFTTOTW.
See, that's me. It just seems so mechanical. I'm sure that's not the way the hard core fans feel, but for me, it's just very cold. I've listened a fair amount and nothing puts the hairs up on the back of my arm.
I'm on board with all of this too.
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Not sure if we can be friends anymore Tim.
We’re still good. I’ll just have to leave you home for the Haken concert. ;D
I'll have dinner ready for when you get home.
Nice!!!
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Why are Haken so polarizing?
For me, I find absolutely nothing appealing in Ross' voice. Their technical wankery to me is a hot mess more often than not, and I find no cohesion in the structure of their songs because of it. It's like they're showing off their skills just because they can, not because it makes sense - which is also much of the reason i've got little interest in AVFTTOTW.
See, that's me. It just seems so mechanical. I'm sure that's not the way the hard core fans feel, but for me, it's just very cold. I've listened a fair amount and nothing puts the hairs up on the back of my arm.
I'm on board with all of this too.
Whatever...I will continue to baselessly judge all of you as lesser people for not wholeheartedly loving what I love.
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Right RJ!! Our cup of tea taste better. :lol
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Why are Haken so polarizing?
I don't think they're unique in this regard, it's just the usual thing really - once a band or album is popular within a music community (in this case prog metal), you get a sort of backlash from some of the people who don't like it.
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Right RJ!! Our cup of tea taste better. :lol
Seriously man...where the fuck is my pitchfork?
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Whatever...I will continue to baselessly judge all of you as lesser people for not wholeheartedly loving what I love.
I can pretty much understand/relate to that - wanting others to like or appreciate what you yourself love (personally I'm not too bothered, but I do like it when it's the other way round as it's a good way to connect with people musically).
The thing I don't think I'll ever understand is when people get frustrated or annoyed at other people for liking something. I don't think it happens much on DTF thankfully, but I don't get it at all.
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Whatever...I will continue to baselessly judge all of you as lesser people for not wholeheartedly loving what I love.
I can pretty much understand/relate to that - wanting others to like or appreciate what you yourself love (personally I'm not too bothered, but I do like it when it's the other way round as it's a good way to connect with people musically).
The thing I don't think I'll ever understand is when people get frustrated or annoyed at other people for liking something. I don't think it happens much on DTF thankfully, but I don't get it at all.
I could honestly give two shits if someone likes what I do, otherwise I'd never been able to dig as deeply as I have into Japanese metal lol. Music, for me and I think others, is almost more personal than religion. While we do enjoy the company of having others like what we do, what we do like is such an intimate connection.
And it does happen somewhat on DTF, but not as bad as some of the DT facebook groups though, those places are shockingly toxic. Wanna get dragged? Just go and criticize the new album there...
(unless it's Chad or Joe...as my close friends, I consider it my sacred duty to drag them whenever possible)
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Why are Haken so polarizing?
For me, I find absolutely nothing appealing in Ross' voice. Their technical wankery to me is a hot mess more often than not, and I find no cohesion in the structure of their songs because of it. It's like they're showing off their skills just because they can, not because it makes sense - which is also much of the reason i've got little interest in AVFTTOTW.
See, that's me. It just seems so mechanical. I'm sure that's not the way the hard core fans feel, but for me, it's just very cold. I've listened a fair amount and nothing puts the hairs up on the back of my arm.
I'm on board with all of this too.
Whatever...I will continue to baselessly judge all of you as lesser people for not wholeheartedly loving what I love.
This motherfucker.......
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Why are Haken so polarizing?
For me, I find absolutely nothing appealing in Ross' voice. Their technical wankery to me is a hot mess more often than not, and I find no cohesion in the structure of their songs because of it. It's like they're showing off their skills just because they can, not because it makes sense - which is also much of the reason i've got little interest in AVFTTOTW.
See, that's me. It just seems so mechanical. I'm sure that's not the way the hard core fans feel, but for me, it's just very cold. I've listened a fair amount and nothing puts the hairs up on the back of my arm.
I'm on board with all of this too.
Whatever...I will continue to baselessly judge all of you as lesser people for not wholeheartedly loving what I love.
IQ is middle of the road prog.
:ontome:
:lol :-*
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:lol :-* :heart
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I think I just saw a virtual wedgie.
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Falling Back to Earth is my favourite song from The Mountain, but I thought Tim would like Pareidolia more. We'll see!
:corn
I am personally hoping you enjoy both, for reasons :neverusethis:
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The thing I don't think I'll ever understand is when people get frustrated or annoyed at other people for liking something. I don't think it happens much on DTF
You forget TAC and Winger.
(although, I am on TAC's side on this)
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Tim should link his Winger round from his past roulette.
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Tim should link his Winger round from his past roulette.
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43645.490
Bosk changed everyone's avatar for me. Wolfking never changed his back.
Also, the legendary Kip Winger tattoo.
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Whatever...I will continue to baselessly judge all of you as lesser people for not wholeheartedly loving what I love.
I can pretty much understand/relate to that - wanting others to like or appreciate what you yourself love (personally I'm not too bothered, but I do like it when it's the other way round as it's a good way to connect with people musically).
The thing I don't think I'll ever understand is when people get frustrated or annoyed at other people for liking something. I don't think it happens much on DTF thankfully, but I don't get it at all.
I could honestly give two shits if someone likes what I do, otherwise I'd never been able to dig as deeply as I have into Japanese metal lol. Music, for me and I think others, is almost more personal than religion. While we do enjoy the company of having others like what we do, what we do like is such an intimate connection.
And it does happen somewhat on DTF, but not as bad as some of the DT facebook groups though, those places are shockingly toxic. Wanna get dragged? Just go and criticize the new album there...
(unless it's Chad or Joe...as my close friends, I consider it my sacred duty to drag them whenever possible)
I like that analogy; certainly it's no one's business why or how much I like Kiss. ;) :) :)
Although you keep mentioning that Japanese metal; I feel like that should be a round in this roulette. :) :)
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First Impressions!
1985
Lapse
In Memoriam
Carousel
Drowning In The Flood
The Endless Knot
Nocturnal Conspiracy
Pareidolia
Shapeshifter
Darkest Light
Atlas Stone
Falling Back To Earth
Veil
This song rocks. Pretty simple and straightforward.[Prosthetic]
Pretty incredible song right here.
This is a good song, but there’s no way I can dissect it in one listen.
One of the mellower songs, but has a nice steady pace and build. [Deathless]
This song feels a lot longer than it is. Not necessarily a complaint, but more of an observation.
Wow, this song was wonderful.
This song needs more listens, has a lot of potential.
Lots going on in this relatively shorter song.
The last two minutes of this was fantastic.
Not quite as immediate as some of the other longer songs.
Wow! Holy shit!
Strong Structural Disorder vibe on this one.
I hope this song grows. It was a bit underwhelming at first.
Even the electronic section in the middle couldn’t ruin this. [Puzzle Box]
On the short side for this round, but I thought it was excellent.[The Strain]
This song starts a bit iffy, but builds nicely.
This song crams a lot into it’s relatively short length. This will require more listens to break it down.
Starting with a nice guitar solo, the second half of this song crushes.
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Tim should link his Winger round from his past roulette.
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43645.490
Bosk changed everyone's avatar for me. Wolfking never changed his back.
Also, the legendary Kip Winger tattoo.
Ahhh... good times. Too bad not all of the linked images survived. 6 years Kade's had that avatar, eh? Jon too (I messaged him a while back to see what he's been up to, but no response :-\)
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Carousel: Even the electronic section in the middle couldn’t ruin this.
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Tim should link his Winger round from his past roulette.
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43645.490
Bosk changed everyone's avatar for me. Wolfking never changed his back.
Also, the legendary Kip Winger tattoo.
Ahhh... good times. Too bad not all of the linked images survived. 6 years Kade's had that avatar, eh? Jon too (I messaged him a while back to see what he's been up to, but no response :-\)
Yeah, I was thinking about him. I thought he had signed on a couple of weeks ago...EDIT: Last active was 11/7, but last post was in July.
Stadler...no. :)
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"One of the mellower songs, but has a nice steady pace and build."
Deathless, probably?
"Even the electronic section in the middle couldn’t ruin this."
The Endless Knot lol
the rest are honestly too vague idk
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The electronic section will be probably be Puzzle Box, but could be The Endless Knot or, at a push, The Strain.
EDIT: Oh and I have to say, I don't care too much how I do this round, I'm just delighted that Tim is digging most of these songs! :D
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Puzzle Box it is.
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Puzzle Box it is.
Yay, my brother didn't ruin the song! :D
(to explain, his solo stuff is all electronic and he provided the electronic percussion for Puzzle Box and The Strain :lol )
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EDIT: Oh and I have to say, I don't care too much how I do this round, I'm just delighted that Tim is digging most of these songs! :D
With how much shit-talking that's been going on, I wonder if it's partially out of spite. :lol
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Puzzle Box it is.
Yay, my brother didn't ruin the song! :D
(to explain, his solo stuff is all electronic and he provided the electronic percussion for Puzzle Box and The Strain :lol )
Wait, wut?
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today TAC learns that ariich's brother used to be in Haken and still shows up on their stuff occasionally
it's a fun fact!
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today TAC learns that ariich's brother used to be in Haken and still shows up on their stuff occasionally
it's a fun fact!
Oh is that right? What did he play?
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today TAC learns that ariich's brother used to be in Haken and still shows up on their stuff occasionally
it's a fun fact!
Oh is that right? What did he play?
He was the original keyboardist on their demo (which you didn't get any songs from - it was solid and had promise but was self-produced and rough around the edges). He's still good friends with the band though and has provided electronic percussion and a couple of other synthy bits on their latest two albums.
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i'm gonna be honest part of my inability to guess at these is because i legitimately don't remember what any of the vector or virus songs sound like lol
"On the short side for this round, but I thought it was excellent."
This song rocks. Pretty simple and straightforward.
prosthetic? the strain? probably both of these? idk
"Not quite as immediate as some of the other longer songs."
veil?
"The last two minutes of this was fantastic."
drowning in the flood?
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Were they guys he knew growing up? How did he join/leave the band?
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"On the short side for this round, but I thought it was excellent."
This song rocks. Pretty simple and straightforward.
prosthetic? the strain? probably both of these? idk
Yes.
The others were wrong..
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Were they guys he knew growing up? How did he join/leave the band?
Three of the original members had grown up and played music together, but Pete met them on an online forum (I think the JP forum actually). Their drummer at the time was... let's say not quite up to scratch, so he then got his school friend Ray (our families are good friends) to join and he's still there now on drums.
EDIT: Oh and you asked about leaving, sorry. Once they got a record deal, he was just coming to the end of high school and wanting to go to university, and at the time thought a professional band with touring etc. might limit what he was able to do in terms of his studies. One of the guitarists left at the same time, for similar career reasons.
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Were they guys he knew growing up? How did he join/leave the band?
Three of the original members had grown up and played music together, but Pete met them on an online forum (I think the JP forum actually). Their drummer at the time was... let's say not quite up to scratch, so he then got his school friend Ray (our families are good friends) to join and he's still there now on drums.
Oh wow! So you must get hooked up when Haken comes around.
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Anyone else have any famous relatives in the thread? ;D
My cousin used to appear on Fox News.
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Were they guys he knew growing up? How did he join/leave the band?
Three of the original members had grown up and played music together, but Pete met them on an online forum (I think the JP forum actually). Their drummer at the time was... let's say not quite up to scratch, so he then got his school friend Ray (our families are good friends) to join and he's still there now on drums.
Oh wow! So you must get hooked up when Haken comes around.
Oh yeah totally, I went to see Novena live a few weeks ago (the other band with Haken's singer Ross), and I had a drink with Ross and Ray beforehand. (EDIT: That said, I still pretty much always buy my own ticket to support them).
Also in case you didn't see it, I updated my previous post with the leaving info as you asked about that too!
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Lots going on in this relatively shorter song.
This song crams a lot into it’s relatively short length. This will require more listens to break it down.
In Memoriam is probably one of these "short but a lot going on" ones?
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Gotcha Rich! That's awesome!
Lots going on in this relatively shorter song.
This song crams a lot into it’s relatively short length. This will require more listens to break it down.
In Memoriam is probably one of these "short but a lot going on" ones?
Probably not. :lol
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"Not quite as immediate as some of the other longer songs."
Nocturnal Conspiracy?
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Wow Holy shit!
Pareidolia for sure.
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"Not quite as immediate as some of the other longer songs."
Nocturnal Conspiracy?
No, but since you sent the song in question, I'll give it up. ;D
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Lots going on in this relatively shorter song.
This song crams a lot into it’s relatively short length. This will require more listens to break it down.
In Memoriam is probably one of these "short but a lot going on" ones?
Probably not. :lol
But surely one of them is Endless Knot?
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First Impressions!
Carousel
Nocturnal Conspiracy
Pareidolia
Shapeshifter
Atlas Stone
This song rocks. Pretty simple and straightforward.[Prosthetic]
Pretty incredible song right here.[Veil]
This is a good song, but there’s no way I can dissect it in one listen.
One of the mellower songs, but has a nice steady pace and build. [Deathless]
This song feels a lot longer than it is. Not necessarily a complaint, but more of an observation.[Darkest Light]
Wow, this song was wonderful.[Falling Back To Earth]
This song needs more listens, has a lot of potential.
Lots going on in this relatively shorter song.[The Endless Knot]
The last two minutes of this was fantastic.
Not quite as immediate as some of the other longer songs.[1985]
Wow! Holy shit!
Strong Structural Disorder vibe on this one.[Drowning In The Flood]
I hope this song grows. It was a bit underwhelming at first.[In Memoriam]
Even the electronic section in the middle couldn’t ruin this. [Puzzle Box]
On the short side for this round, but I thought it was excellent.[The Strain]
This song starts a bit iffy, but builds nicely.[Lapse]
This song crams a lot into it’s relatively short length. This will require more listens to break it down.
Starting with a nice guitar solo, the second half of this song crushes.
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@425...yes.
@Lonestar..no
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Guessing this might be Lapse:
This song starts a bit iffy, but builds nicely.
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Guessing this might be Lapse:
This song starts a bit iffy, but builds nicely.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AbsoluteLeftFirecrest-size_restricted.gif)
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Pretty incredible song right here.
Wow, this song was wonderful.
Pareidolia and Falling Back to Earth :neverusethis:
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1/2 right.
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Pareidolia could be the strong Structural Disorder vibes? idk :lol
"Structural Disorder vibes" describes pretty much all of early Haken as far as I'm concerned lol
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Pareidolia could be the strong Structural Disorder vibes? idk :lol
"Structural Disorder vibes" describes pretty much all of early Haken as far as I'm concerned lol
Yeah I'd say something from the first two albums. Maybe Nocturnal Conspiracy? Or possibly Shapeshifter.
Fantastic last two minutes could be Drowning in the Flood.
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Fantastic last two minutes could be Drowning in the Flood.
i think i already guessed this one :lol
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This song feels a lot longer than it is. Not necessarily a complaint, but more of an observation. - Darkest Light?
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Guessing this might be Lapse:
This song starts a bit iffy, but builds nicely.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AbsoluteLeftFirecrest-size_restricted.gif)
Probably because I like the way it starts. :-)
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Guessing this might be Lapse:
This song starts a bit iffy, but builds nicely.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AbsoluteLeftFirecrest-size_restricted.gif)
Probably because I like the way it starts. :-)
:lol
Naturally! :lol
This song feels a lot longer than it is. Not necessarily a complaint, but more of an observation. - Darkest Light?
Yes.
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Pareidolia could be the strong Structural Disorder vibes? idk :lol
"Structural Disorder vibes" describes pretty much all of early Haken as far as I'm concerned lol
Yeah I'd say something from the first two albums. Maybe Nocturnal Conspiracy? Or possibly Shapeshifter.
Fantastic last two minutes could be Drowning in the Flood.
I've updated the Structural Disorder one.
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Tim should link his Winger round from his past roulette.
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43645.490
Bosk changed everyone's avatar for me. Wolfking never changed his back.
Also, the legendary Kip Winger tattoo.
Ahhh... good times. Too bad not all of the linked images survived. 6 years Kade's had that avatar, eh? Jon too (I messaged him a while back to see what he's been up to, but no response :-\)
I've stuck solid with that avatar. Never really given any thought of changing it. Just wouldn't feel right.
I was wondering about Jon....
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So you liked Puzzle Box? Good lord!
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Based on first impressions, it's a good guess Joe is going to have company the next time Haken plays Beantown.
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Based on first impressions, it's a good guess Joe is going to have company the next time Haken plays Beantown.
I've already sent out the invitation.
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I think I speak for all the pro Haken members here that we do need at least a first impression of Cockroach King.
Preferably from the Muppet/Bohemian Rasphody crossover music video.
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/246876956_443306187151643_7934735331650989208_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=IVfXIty4t8cAX9EBVcR&tn=AuuR0eREckWj30iN&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=92be57cb8d065db0fbecde41a9d06337&oe=61B676FB)
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We absolutely need a Cockroach King impression.
Since I'm running out of descriptive ones that could match it, and I know that it already lost out to two songs in terms of first impression, I'm going to guess that In Memoriam has potential, but needs more listens. If you say no, I'm going to get more pessimistic and guess that it's underwhelming.
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Based on first impressions, it's a good guess Joe is going to have company the next time Haken plays Beantown.
And Rich is gonna get us hooked up!
Since I'm running out of descriptive ones that could match it, and I know that it already lost out to two songs in terms of first impression, I'm going to guess that In Memoriam has potential, but needs more listens. If you say no, I'm going to get more pessimistic and guess that it's underwhelming.
Yes!
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This song feels a lot longer than it is. Not necessarily a complaint, but more of an observation. - Darkest Light?
Yes.
I hesitated before sending that song for that same reason but sent it anyways :mehlin glad other songs are getting a positive reaction though :metal
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Yay! I have good impressions :)
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Since I'm running out of descriptive ones that could match it, and I know that it already lost out to two songs in terms of first impression, I'm going to guess that In Memoriam has potential, but needs more listens. If you say no, I'm going to get more pessimistic and guess that it's underwhelming.
Yes!
Yay! I'm underwhelming!
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Yay! I'm underwhelming!
:natalieportman:
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Quote from Not Quite 426
:rollin
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Nick would hook us up too if he travels with them like he does.
Swinging for the fence for mine.
Pretty incredible song right here.
Wow! Holy shit!
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Swinging for the fence for mine.
Pretty incredible song right here.
Wow! Holy shit!
No whammies!
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Swinging for the fence for mine.
Pretty incredible song right here.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/37/87/e3/3787e36910f67d168043a65985a13ad5.gif)
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Atlas Stone for "crams a lot into its length"
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Troy Brown is the cheery on top!
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Troy Brown is the cheery on top!
(https://c.tenor.com/8WXfkoU6E7gAAAAC/umm.gif)
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Fuck yeah. Take that, Veil naysayers!
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what does veil even sound like
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Fuck yeah. Take that, Veil naysayers!
Word.
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what does veil even sound like
You tell me, you're the one who put that album on your honorable mentions for that year. :lol
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First Impressions!
Pareidolia
Shapeshifter
Starting with a nice guitar solo, the second half of this song crushes.
This song needs more listens, has a lot of potential.
Wow! Holy shit![Nocturnal Conspiracy]
This is a good song, but there’s no way I can dissect it in one listen.[Carousel]
This song rocks. Pretty simple and straightforward.[Prosthetic]
Pretty incredible song right here.[Veil]
One of the mellower songs, but has a nice steady pace and build. [Deathless]
This song feels a lot longer than it is. Not necessarily a complaint, but more of an observation.[Darkest Light]
Wow, this song was wonderful.[Falling Back To Earth]
Lots going on in this relatively shorter song.[The Endless Knot]
The last two minutes of this was fantastic.[Atlas Stone]
Not quite as immediate as some of the other longer songs.[1985]
Strong Structural Disorder vibe on this one.[Drowning In The Flood]
I hope this song grows. It was a bit underwhelming at first.[In Memoriam]
Even the electronic section in the middle couldn’t ruin this. [Puzzle Box]
On the short side for this round, but I thought it was excellent.[The Strain]
This song starts a bit iffy, but builds nicely.[Lapse]
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what does veil even sound like
You tell me, you're the one who put that album on your honorable mentions for that year. :lol
veil was not one of my favorite songs on the album to begin with but also it's been three years and i haven't listened to the album a single time since that video :rollin
i kinda remember what the songs i actually liked from vector sound like at least, or parts of them
there was a reason it wasn't on my list proper tho :P
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what does veil even sound like
You tell me, you're the one who put that album on your honorable mentions for that year. :lol
veil was not one of my favorite songs on the album to begin with but also it's been three years and i haven't listened to the album a single time since that video :rollin
Hah, we might like the album about equally then. :lol Puzzle Box and Veil are the only reason I bought it.
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i wouldn't be able to tell you why i bought virus either
i didn't even finish my usual 3-4 week cycle with it like two weeks of trying to get /something/ from it and i just quite out of disappointment. such a mediocre, boring album
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This Atlas Stone?
The last two minutes of this was fantastic
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Yeah I didn't get Virus either. Prosthetic is the only song that made me kinda want to but I never feel the desire to listen to anything else from it.
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This Atlas Stone?
The last two minutes of this was fantastic
Yes!
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Okay, seeing as it's the only sub-10 minute one left, Shapeshifter has gotta be "crams a lot into its relatively short length," right?
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Okay, seeing as it's the only sub-10 minute one left, Shapeshifter has gotta be "crams a lot into its relatively short length," right?
Forget you ever saw that impression. I had two impressions down for one song. :facepalm:
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Carousel?
This song needs more listens, has a lot of potential.
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Carousel?
This song needs more listens, has a lot of potential.
Close enough!
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I think Pareidolia was already confirmed not "Wow! Holy shit!" so considering the other two, I'll guess Nocturnal Conspiracy for that.
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I think Pareidolia was already confirmed not "Wow! Holy shit!" so considering the other two, I'll guess Nocturnal Conspiracy for that.
Yes!
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I feel like that's a song that gets forgotten about a lot with all the long tracks they've released in the years since and on the same album, but it is really, really good.
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i don't think either of the songs left starts with a guitar solo so i have no real clue which is which :rollin
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I think it means the second half begins with a guitar solo, but I don't remember how those songs go well enough to name which one it fits.
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i don't think either of the songs left starts with a guitar solo so i have no real clue which is which :rollin
Starting with a nice guitar solo, the second half of this song crushes.
the second half starts with a guitar solo. ;D :neverusethis:
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I would never have parsed it that way :lol
50/50 so I'm just gonna guess that one is pareidolia anyways
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First Impressions!
Starting with a nice guitar solo, the second half of this song crushes.[Shapeshifter]
This song needs more listens, has a lot of potential.[Pareidolia]
Wow! Holy shit![Nocturnal Conspiracy]
This is a good song, but there’s no way I can dissect it in one listen.[Carousel]
This song rocks. Pretty simple and straightforward.[Prosthetic]
Pretty incredible song right here.[Veil]
One of the mellower songs, but has a nice steady pace and build. [Deathless]
This song feels a lot longer than it is. Not necessarily a complaint, but more of an observation.[Darkest Light]
Wow, this song was wonderful.[Falling Back To Earth]
Lots going on in this relatively shorter song.[The Endless Knot]
The last two minutes of this was fantastic.[Atlas Stone]
Not quite as immediate as some of the other longer songs.[1985]
Strong Structural Disorder vibe on this one.[Drowning In The Flood]
I hope this song grows. It was a bit underwhelming at first.[In Memoriam]
Even the electronic section in the middle couldn’t ruin this. [Puzzle Box]
On the short side for this round, but I thought it was excellent.[The Strain]
This song starts a bit iffy, but builds nicely.[Lapse]
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alright, and how many of them are better than peruvian skies? :neverusethis:
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:lol
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alright, and how many of them are better than peruvian skies? :neverusethis:
I don't think any, actually.
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alright, and how many of them are better than peruvian skies? :neverusethis:
Two (the ones I sent) :biggrin:
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alright, and how many of them are better than peruvian skies? :neverusethis:
I don't think any, actually.
:metardica:
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First Impressions!
Starting with a nice guitar solo, the second half of this song crushes.[Shapeshifter]
I thought it risky to send what is essentially the last part of a 3 track suite, but this pleases me. Now throw The Mind's Eye and Portals in front of it and see what you think.
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Even though I just posted First Impressions today, I am now basically 4 plays through the songs.
I thought I'd share where I am with this.
I really enjoyed my first couple of listens. The music is really good, the hate on the vocals was overrated, and the songs were pretty strong.
I am noticing some warts though.
There's a reason Dream Theater are the standard bearers of this genre. Mostly, it's Dream Theater's musicality. They are melodically superior while still displaying virtuosic chops. And for me, they have a vocalist that pulls emotion out of me.
1. Seems like Ross is a lightning rod around here. The positive.. I think he sounds fine. He's an excellent vocalist with range and variation. I don't have an issue with his voice.
BUT... I'm not saying he doesn't sing with passion, because I think he does, but for the most part, it's not really drawing it out of me. There's a handful of melodic choruses that are really effective though, but not every song is blessed with one.
2. The keyboards... Again, my point of reference is again, Dream Theater. No one is more wanky than Jordan, but 95% of the time, he's doing what is right for the song. I think of the brilliant piano outro to Transcending Time. There's nothing even remotely as moving in these songs. As much as Jordan stands out, his accompaniment is amazing. With Haken, I feel like this guy has no idea how to...blend. I don't mind keyboards in my music, but there's a tastefulness that is lacking generally. There ARE exceptions to this though. But generally..
And I am frankly not a fan of electronic elements in my music. 7:15 of ITNOG is as much electronica as I want in my music.
3. I'm hearing low tuned guitars. That is grating.
4. The drumming is fantastic, as is the bassist.
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Why are Haken so polarizing?
@LudwigVan, I want your opinion on this as well.
When I first sampled Haken (courtesy of some posts way back when by Arich), I thought they sounded interesting enough that I went out and bought their first album, Aquarius, reckoning that they'd be right in my wheelhouse. Then I listened to the album.
For me, the music seemed to meander pointlessly. To use a classic TAC phrase, "the music didn't really go anywhere". I didn't hear any songs, just arrangements (extremely well-played, I'll grant) that moved from section to section without any point of reference for me grasp. On top of that, I couldn't latch onto the vocals. It all left me feeling cold.
That said, I've come to dig many of the shorter songs that have been submitted in this roulette, especially the ones that have some heavy riffage. I guess I'm a metalhead at heart.
When I listen to Haken, it makes me appreciate Dream Theater that much more, i.e. ... why am I listening to this when I could be listening to DT?
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Thanks Gord! I appreciate it.
I listened to their first album once...once.
I guess you more or less said some of the things that I said in the previous post.
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Even though I just posted First Impressions today, I am now basically 4 plays through the songs.
I thought I'd share where I am with this.
I really enjoyed my first couple of listens. The music is really good, the hate on the vocals was overrated, and the songs were pretty strong.
I am noticing some warts though.
There's a reason Dream Theater are the standard bearers of this genre. Mostly, it's Dream Theater's musicality. They are melodically superior while still displaying virtuosic chops. And for me, they have a vocalist that pulls emotion out of me.
1. Seems like Ross is a lightning rod around here. The positive.. I think he sounds fine. He's an excellent vocalist with range and variation. I don't have an issue with his voice.
BUT... I'm not saying he doesn't sing with passion, because I think he does, but for the most part, it's not really drawing it out of me. There's a handful of melodic choruses that are really effective though, but not every song is blessed with one.
So I made a joke a few pages back that Haken are better without the vocals. It wasn’t even really a joke. It’s not on Spotify, but the CD for Affinity included a second disc of all instrumental versions of the songs. Aside from my feelings about Ross’s voice, it’s amazing how much the vocal melodies detract from the underlying arrangements, which are fantastic on their own. Lapse is a really good example of that. There is a lot of cool stuff going on underneath that kind of gets lost under the vocal melody. I made my own playlist of the album that replaced some of the tracks with the all instrumental versions, and that’s mostly what I’ve listened to.
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HOF, the instrumental version of Affinity IS on Spotify.
I can hear the subtleties in Lapse. Especially early in the song. But I generally don't listen to instrumental music. If a band includes one on an album, fine.
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HOF, the instrumental version of Affinity IS on Spotify.
I can hear the subtleties in Lapse. Especially early in the song. But I generally don't listen to instrumental music. If a band includes one on an album, fine.
I thought I checked Spotify, but maybe after you nixed instrumentals I never did.
I like a lot of instrumental music, so maybe I’m just weird. But most of my issues with prog metal (and to a lesser extent other forms of prog and metal) are with the vocals. Some of it is subject matter, but a lot of it is just shoehorning a vocal melody over the underlying instrumental craziness. For instance, I think LTE is great, the new album included. But since JR joined DT, I’ve never really thought JLB fit anymore. I think I’d be more likely to listen to an all instrumental version of Train of Thought for instance (and Stream of Consciousness is easily my favorite track on that album).
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So funny thing for me with Haken. I really used to be bothered by Ross's voice. I had the cd of Affinity and listened to the instrumental version. For some reason after that I found that the vocals didn't bother me anymore. That makes zero sense, since I enjoyed the instrumental version.
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HOF, the instrumental version of Affinity IS on Spotify.
I can hear the subtleties in Lapse. Especially early in the song. But I generally don't listen to instrumental music. If a band includes one on an album, fine.
I never listened to the instrumental version of Affinity until one day I accidentally popped it into my car CD player, thinking it was the regular version. Turned out I really enjoyed the instrumental version as the riffs seemed heavier and crunchy. That said, I have never gone back and relistened to it.
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Wow! Holy shit![Nocturnal Conspiracy]
One of the mellower songs, but has a nice steady pace and build. [Deathless]
Seems like I didn't send the wrong songs this time. :metal :D
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Unless I was thinking Wow holy shit this is awful. ;D
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Even though I just posted First Impressions today, I am now basically 4 plays through the songs.
I thought I'd share where I am with this.
I really enjoyed my first couple of listens. The music is really good, the hate on the vocals was overrated, and the songs were pretty strong.
I am noticing some warts though.
There's a reason Dream Theater are the standard bearers of this genre. Mostly, it's Dream Theater's musicality. They are melodically superior while still displaying virtuosic chops. And for me, they have a vocalist that pulls emotion out of me.
1. Seems like Ross is a lightning rod around here. The positive.. I think he sounds fine. He's an excellent vocalist with range and variation. I don't have an issue with his voice.
BUT... I'm not saying he doesn't sing with passion, because I think he does, but for the most part, it's not really drawing it out of me. There's a handful of melodic choruses that are really effective though, but not every song is blessed with one.
2. The keyboards... Again, my point of reference is again, Dream Theater. No one is more wanky than Jordan, but 95% of the time, he's doing what is right for the song. I think of the brilliant piano outro to Transcending Time. There's nothing even remotely as moving in these songs. As much as Jordan stands out, his accompaniment is amazing. With Haken, I feel like this guy has no idea how to...blend. I don't mind keyboards in my music, but there's a tastefulness that is lacking generally. There ARE exceptions to this though. But generally..
And I am frankly not a fan of electronic elements in my music. 7:15 of ITNOG is as much electronica as I want in my music.
3. I'm hearing low tuned guitars. That is grating.
4. The drumming is fantastic, as is the bassist.
Okay, we are making progress. Thought we totally lost you Tim.
DT are indeed the gold standard. Nothing else really comes close.
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Honestly I woke up this morning and wanted to hear Anneke song some Devin tunes.
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Honestly I woke up this morning and wanted to hear Anneke song some Devin tunes.
Exactly. Haken may sound pretty and all but to me they have zero substance. I can see right through them I tell ya.
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When I listen to Haken, it makes me appreciate Dream Theater that much more, i.e. ... why am I listening to this when I could be listening to DT?
This is how I feel about current-day DT!
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Honestly I woke up this morning and wanted to hear Anneke song some Devin tunes.
I feel like my work here is complete. :) :) :)
(Her latest solo album is a treasure as well.)
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Anneke is good and all but honestly Ché is where it's at. :)
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2. The keyboards... Again, my point of reference is again, Dream Theater. No one is more wanky than Jordan, but 95% of the time, he's doing what is right for the song. I think of the brilliant piano outro to Transcending Time. There's nothing even remotely as moving in these songs. As much as Jordan stands out, his accompaniment is amazing. With Haken, I feel like this guy has no idea how to...blend. I don't mind keyboards in my music, but there's a tastefulness that is lacking generally. There ARE exceptions to this though. But generally..
And I am frankly not a fan of electronic elements in my music. 7:15 of ITNOG is as much electronica as I want in my music.
Can we pretend the last minute of Drowning in the Flood doesn't exist?
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2. The keyboards... Again, my point of reference is again, Dream Theater. No one is more wanky than Jordan, but 95% of the time, he's doing what is right for the song. I think of the brilliant piano outro to Transcending Time. There's nothing even remotely as moving in these songs. As much as Jordan stands out, his accompaniment is amazing. With Haken, I feel like this guy has no idea how to...blend. I don't mind keyboards in my music, but there's a tastefulness that is lacking generally. There ARE exceptions to this though. But generally..
And I am frankly not a fan of electronic elements in my music. 7:15 of ITNOG is as much electronica as I want in my music.
Can we pretend the last minute of Drowning in the Flood doesn't exist?
While we’re at it, let’s pretend the first six and half minutes don’t exist either. ;D
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Nope!
I can't wait until we get to the bands I don't know so I have no emotional investment in how well the songs will do. :lol
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This is not the roulette to have emotional investment. :lol
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I will have no emotional investment in the next round, since I have literally never heard a single note of a Between the Buried and Me song.
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This is not the roulette to have emotional investment. :lol
Never did. :biggrin:
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This is not the roulette to have emotional investment. :lol
Never did. :biggrin:
In this thread we eat more than 4 chocolate covered almonds in a month. :P
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:lol
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This is not the roulette to have emotional investment. :lol
Never did. :biggrin:
In this thread we eat more than 4 chocolate covered almonds in a month. :P
I already had 5 today! :P
If you ain't exercising, stay out of our thread!!!
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Bye!
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Bye!
No no ... the Exercise thread!
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Speaking of nuts.......
I'll let myself out.
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Speaking of nuts.......
I'll let myself out.
Zip that back up!
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So my yesterday comments not withstanding...I'm listening to day after work, even scratching together some writeups.
In a way, I feel I've broken through. I've done 4 songs so far and I have really enjoyed them. They all have one large pimple on them. But they are at least making a lot more sense.
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Broken through, or broken down?
Or just plain broken?
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Probably considered by most as Haken's wussy song but I absolutely love Earthrise. It's in my top 5 tracks by Haken.
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Honestly both Devin and Haken have a lot of overlap with bands TAC likes so I'm not surprised he's digging them. If he starts saying this stuff for Porcupine Tree / Steven Wilson then we'll know for sure it's stockholm syndrome.
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Honestly both Devin and Haken have a lot of overlap with bands TAC likes so I'm not surprised he's digging them. If he starts saying this stuff for Porcupine Tree / Steven Wilson then we'll know for sure it's stockholm syndrome.
:lol
Muse round!
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Broken through, or broken down?
Or just plain broken?
Nah. There's a lot of good songs and some amazing passages.
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Honestly both Devin and Haken have a lot of overlap with bands TAC likes so I'm not surprised he's digging them. If he starts saying this stuff for Porcupine Tree / Steven Wilson then we'll know for sure it's stockholm syndrome.
I'm just going to send Wilson songs that I like (don't listen to him much anymore, but there are a few that I still hold in high regard) without even imagining for a minute that they'll cross the 4/10 threshold.
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As one of the biggest Haken fans here, and certainly the longest standing, there's a bunch of stuff I'd like to respond to while I can before we get to results and move onto the next band. :lol
I really enjoyed my first couple of listens. The music is really good, the hate on the vocals was overrated, and the songs were pretty strong.
As before, absolutely delighted with this.
There's a reason Dream Theater are the standard bearers of this genre. Mostly, it's Dream Theater's musicality. They are melodically superior while still displaying virtuosic chops.
Tastes is tastes, for sure. Personally, I find Haken's melodic approach more interesting (or perhaps better to say more consistently interesting) than DT's. DT's approach is somewhat rooted in classic rock (I don't mean that in a reductive way at all and obviously they bring in lots of other influences), whereas Haken's leans more into both melancholy and, for want of a better word, unusual territories. Some of their big, sad choruses are just so beautiful and get me more than any DT song. But some are less immediate and even as a huge fan I'm not normally sold straight away, but I basically always completely come around after listening enough.
And for me, they have a vocalist that pulls emotion out of me.
1. Seems like Ross is a lightning rod around here. The positive.. I think he sounds fine. He's an excellent vocalist with range and variation. I don't have an issue with his voice.
BUT... I'm not saying he doesn't sing with passion, because I think he does, but for the most part, it's not really drawing it out of me.
Again tastes is tastes, but it's worth noting that the submissions in this round have been very focused towards the heavier end of their music. You've got Deathless and Ross sounds good there but his voice wasn't as strong on those first two albums. But The Mountain and Affinity in particular have some gentler and more delicate moments and I think he delivers them with a ton of emotion.
2. The keyboards... Again, my point of reference is again, Dream Theater. No one is more wanky than Jordan, but 95% of the time, he's doing what is right for the song. I think of the brilliant piano outro to Transcending Time. There's nothing even remotely as moving in these songs. As much as Jordan stands out, his accompaniment is amazing. With Haken, I feel like this guy has no idea how to...blend. I don't mind keyboards in my music, but there's a tastefulness that is lacking generally. There ARE exceptions to this though. But generally..
And I am frankly not a fan of electronic elements in my music. 7:15 of ITNOG is as much electronica as I want in my music.
I can understand this. I'm not a huge fan of Diego, but I do love his sound design work on Affinity. But if you're not into the electronics, I can see how even that might not appeal consistently.
3. I'm hearing low tuned guitars. That is grating.
There's a mix but yeah they do often use 7- and 8-string guitars. Quite a modern style I guess. I have no problem with it.
4. The drumming is fantastic, as is the bassist.
They've had two bassists, both awesome, and yeah Ray is a great drummer and has got better and better with each album.
When I first sampled Haken (courtesy of some posts way back when by Arich), I thought they sounded interesting enough that I went out and bought their first album, Aquarius, reckoning that they'd be right in my wheelhouse. Then I listened to the album.
For me, the music seemed to meander pointlessly. To use a classic TAC phrase, "the music didn't really go anywhere". I didn't hear any songs, just arrangements (extremely well-played, I'll grant) that moved from section to section without any point of reference for me grasp.
That was definitely an issue with Aquarius, and it's the main reason it's easily my least favourite of theirs. The first three songs in particular just don't really have any structure and they just all run from one to the next. Their songwriting is much more structured and focused now, especially from The Mountain onwards (apart from the Messiah Complex suite but that was intentionally bonkers).
I have to say though that on this point, I don't really get the DT comparison. Taking in their whole catalogues, I think DT have done a lot more of that meandering in their songwriting. Perhaps rarely as much so as those three opening songs from Aquarius, but they do it more often IMO.
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When I first sampled Haken (courtesy of some posts way back when by Arich), I thought they sounded interesting enough that I went out and bought their first album, Aquarius, reckoning that they'd be right in my wheelhouse. Then I listened to the album.
For me, the music seemed to meander pointlessly. To use a classic TAC phrase, "the music didn't really go anywhere". I didn't hear any songs, just arrangements (extremely well-played, I'll grant) that moved from section to section without any point of reference for me grasp.
That was definitely an issue with Aquarius, and it's the main reason it's easily my least favourite of theirs. The first three songs in particular just don't really have any structure and they just all run from one to the next. Their songwriting is much more structured and focused now, especially from The Mountain onwards (apart from the Messiah Complex suite but that was intentionally bonkers).
I have to say though that on this point, I don't really get the DT comparison. Taking in their whole catalogues, I think DT have done a lot more of that meandering in their songwriting. Perhaps rarely as much so as those three opening songs from Aquarius, but they do it more often IMO.
I fully get why someone would object to this about Aquarius, but I personally embrace the weirdness and the meandering. To me it's just a beautiful little oddball album that's totally unlike anything else (people say their first two albums are heavily DT-inspired... I see that for Visions, but not for Aquarius).
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Probably considered by most as Haken's wussy song but I absolutely love Earthrise. It's in my top 5 tracks by Haken.
That’s the third song I considered sending. Didn’t think TAC would like it, but I think it’s pretty great.
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When I first sampled Haken (courtesy of some posts way back when by Arich), I thought they sounded interesting enough that I went out and bought their first album, Aquarius, reckoning that they'd be right in my wheelhouse. Then I listened to the album.
For me, the music seemed to meander pointlessly. To use a classic TAC phrase, "the music didn't really go anywhere". I didn't hear any songs, just arrangements (extremely well-played, I'll grant) that moved from section to section without any point of reference for me grasp.
That was definitely an issue with Aquarius, and it's the main reason it's easily my least favourite of theirs. The first three songs in particular just don't really have any structure and they just all run from one to the next. Their songwriting is much more structured and focused now, especially from The Mountain onwards (apart from the Messiah Complex suite but that was intentionally bonkers).
I have to say though that on this point, I don't really get the DT comparison. Taking in their whole catalogues, I think DT have done a lot more of that meandering in their songwriting. Perhaps rarely as much so as those three opening songs from Aquarius, but they do it more often IMO.
I fully get why someone would object to this about Aquarius, but I personally embrace the weirdness and the meandering. To me it's just a beautiful little oddball album that's totally unlike anything else (people say their first two albums are heavily DT-inspired... I see that for Visions, but not for Aquarius).
Agreed about the DT comparison.
I definitely don't mind weirdness and quirkiness - Messiah Complex is crazier than any of the early stuff and I love it. My comments about Aquarius were very much relative, and I still love the album. I just like all the others more.
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Probably considered by most as Haken's wussy song but I absolutely love Earthrise. It's in my top 5 tracks by Haken.
That’s the third song I considered sending. Didn’t think TAC would like it, but I think it’s pretty great.
Another huge Earthrise fan here, one of my favourites on Affinity.
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As one of the biggest Haken fans here, and certainly the longest standing, there's a bunch of stuff I'd like to respond to while I can before we get to results and move onto the next band. :lol
I really enjoyed my first couple of listens. The music is really good, the hate on the vocals was overrated, and the songs were pretty strong.
As before, absolutely delighted with this.
There's a reason Dream Theater are the standard bearers of this genre. Mostly, it's Dream Theater's musicality. They are melodically superior while still displaying virtuosic chops.
Tastes is tastes, for sure. Personally, I find Haken's melodic approach more interesting (or perhaps better to say more consistently interesting) than DT's. DT's approach is somewhat rooted in classic rock (I don't mean that in a reductive way at all and obviously they bring in lots of other influences), whereas Haken's leans more into both melancholy and, for want of a better word, unusual territories. Some of their big, sad choruses are just so beautiful and get me more than any DT song. But some are less immediate and even as a huge fan I'm not normally sold straight away, but I basically always completely come around after listening enough.
And for me, they have a vocalist that pulls emotion out of me.
1. Seems like Ross is a lightning rod around here. The positive.. I think he sounds fine. He's an excellent vocalist with range and variation. I don't have an issue with his voice.
BUT... I'm not saying he doesn't sing with passion, because I think he does, but for the most part, it's not really drawing it out of me.
Again tastes is tastes, but it's worth noting that the submissions in this round have been very focused towards the heavier end of their music. You've got Deathless and Ross sounds good there but his voice wasn't as strong on those first two albums. But The Mountain and Affinity in particular have some gentler and more delicate moments and I think he delivers them with a ton of emotion.
2. The keyboards... Again, my point of reference is again, Dream Theater. No one is more wanky than Jordan, but 95% of the time, he's doing what is right for the song. I think of the brilliant piano outro to Transcending Time. There's nothing even remotely as moving in these songs. As much as Jordan stands out, his accompaniment is amazing. With Haken, I feel like this guy has no idea how to...blend. I don't mind keyboards in my music, but there's a tastefulness that is lacking generally. There ARE exceptions to this though. But generally..
And I am frankly not a fan of electronic elements in my music. 7:15 of ITNOG is as much electronica as I want in my music.
I can understand this. I'm not a huge fan of Diego, but I do love his sound design work on Affinity. But if you're not into the electronics, I can see how even that might not appeal consistently.
3. I'm hearing low tuned guitars. That is grating.
There's a mix but yeah they do often use 7- and 8-string guitars. Quite a modern style I guess. I have no problem with it.
4. The drumming is fantastic, as is the bassist.
They've had two bassists, both awesome, and yeah Ray is a great drummer and has got better and better with each album.
When I first sampled Haken (courtesy of some posts way back when by Arich), I thought they sounded interesting enough that I went out and bought their first album, Aquarius, reckoning that they'd be right in my wheelhouse. Then I listened to the album.
For me, the music seemed to meander pointlessly. To use a classic TAC phrase, "the music didn't really go anywhere". I didn't hear any songs, just arrangements (extremely well-played, I'll grant) that moved from section to section without any point of reference for me grasp.
That was definitely an issue with Aquarius, and it's the main reason it's easily my least favourite of theirs. The first three songs in particular just don't really have any structure and they just all run from one to the next. Their songwriting is much more structured and focused now, especially from The Mountain onwards (apart from the Messiah Complex suite but that was intentionally bonkers).
I have to say though that on this point, I don't really get the DT comparison. Taking in their whole catalogues, I think DT have done a lot more of that meandering in their songwriting. Perhaps rarely as much so as those three opening songs from Aquarius, but they do it more often IMO.
This is not the roulette to have emotional investment. :lol
;D
Just kidding. I appreciate your comments and I'll chew on them a bit!
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Probably considered by most as Haken's wussy song but I absolutely love Earthrise. It's in my top 5 tracks by Haken.
That’s the third song I considered sending. Didn’t think TAC would like it, but I think it’s pretty great.
Then it's guaranteed TAC won't like it. :lol
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This is not the roulette to have emotional investment. :lol
;D
Just kidding. I appreciate your comments and I'll chew on them a bit!
:lol
But honestly don't worry, there's no emotional investment here in the sense that I'd have had no problem whatsoever if Haken simply hadn't been for you at all. Thankfully so, otherwise I'd have been hurting from Chad and Kade's onslaught. :lol But it's always really nice when someone gets enjoyment out of something you love, so I'm just happy about that.
And then I just thought I'd offer some reflections on the recent comments, but not trying to convince anyone of anything, just offering my perspective.
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Probably considered by most as Haken's wussy song but I absolutely love Earthrise. It's in my top 5 tracks by Haken.
That’s the third song I considered sending. Didn’t think TAC would like it, but I think it’s pretty great.
Then it's guaranteed TAC won't like it. :lol
Didn’t stop me from sending the other two though!
:corn
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And then I just thought I'd offer some reflections on the recent comments, but not trying to convince anyone of anything, just offering my perspective.
There's nothing that I have ever liked more than talking with friends about music.
Probably considered by most as Haken's wussy song but I absolutely love Earthrise. It's in my top 5 tracks by Haken.
That’s the third song I considered sending. Didn’t think TAC would like it, but I think it’s pretty great.
Then it's guaranteed TAC won't like it. :lol
Didn’t stop me from sending the other two though!
:corn
Didn't stop me from not liking the other two though!
:corn :corn
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And then I just thought I'd offer some reflections on the recent comments, but not trying to convince anyone of anything, just offering my perspective.
There's nothing that I have ever liked more than talking with friends about music.
Totally. I mean, that's why we all keep coming back to this forum, right? :lol
anyway results when
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And then I just thought I'd offer some reflections on the recent comments, but not trying to convince anyone of anything, just offering my perspective.
There's nothing that I have ever liked more than talking with friends about music.
Probably considered by most as Haken's wussy song but I absolutely love Earthrise. It's in my top 5 tracks by Haken.
That’s the third song I considered sending. Didn’t think TAC would like it, but I think it’s pretty great.
Then it's guaranteed TAC won't like it. :lol
Didn’t stop me from sending the other two though!
:corn
Didn't stop me from not liking the other two though!
:corn :corn
As fully anticipated!
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anyway results when
No sooner than Thursday, but likely Friday. I'm roughing out some writeups today. Got 6 done already.
I have even formatted my Results post...bolding/underlining/italicizing...
I have tomorrow off, but I have to take my wife into Boston for a doctor's appointment, and she ended up taking the day off, so sitting on my ass all day DTFing might be a challenge. :lol
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Honey, I have no time to talk in the waiting room. I have grades to finish. :lol
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Probably considered by most as Haken's wussy song but I absolutely love Earthrise. It's in my top 5 tracks by Haken.
That’s the third song I considered sending. Didn’t think TAC would like it, but I think it’s pretty great.
Then it's guaranteed TAC won't like it. :lol
Lmao already knew what the response would be even before sending it.
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Guys, what is the deal with 1985? What's it about? Why 1985?
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I can name at least three 80s-inspired songs that are named 1985, idk it's just right in the middle of the decade and sounds cool I guess
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I can name at least three 80s-inspired songs that are named 1985, idk it's just right in the middle of the decade and sounds cool I guess
Three?
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I can name at least three 80s-inspired songs that are named 1985, idk it's just right in the middle of the decade and sounds cool I guess
Three?
Haken
Kvelertak
Sabrepulse
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Sabrepulse? :lol
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For everyone:
I wanted to ask..
Rank the 6 Haken albums.
Top 5 Devin albums?
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For everyone:
I wanted to ask..
Rank the 6 Haken albums.
Affinity
The Mountain
Vector/Virus
Restoration EP
Visions
Aquarius
I'm into their newer stuff a lot more than the older stuff. Not that any of it's bad.
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Top 5 Devin albums?
In no particular order:
Addicted
Ocean Machine
Deconstruction
Accelerated Evolution
Epicloud
If you're including SYL then Alien would kick either Ocean Machine, Accelerated Evolution or Epicloud out.
But honestly, if you're looking for the best starting place it really depends on which part of his sound resonates with you the most.
If you like his poppier, more straightforward side: Addicted or Epicloud
If you want something heavier and crazier: Deconstruction or the Ziltoid albums
If you want something proggier: Ocean Machine, Terria
Aaaand if you want to check out his quieter albums (which you should because they're good), try Ki, Casualties Of Cool or even Ghost. :)
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I dropped the needle on the Sabrepulse 1985.
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Top 5 Devin albums?
In no particular order:
Addicted
Ocean Machine
Deconstruction
Accelerated Evolution
Epicloud
If you're including SYL then Alien would kick either Ocean Machine, Accelerated Evolution or Epicloud out.
But honestly, if you're looking for the best starting place it really depends on which part of his sound resonates with you the most.
If you like his poppier, more straightforward side: Addicted or Epicloud
If you want something heavier and crazier: Deconstruction or the Ziltoid albums
If you want something proggier: Ocean Machine, Terria
Aaaand if you want to check out his quieter albums (which you should because they're good), try Ki, Casualties Of Cool or even Ghost. :)
Thanks Buddy. that's a great breakdown. I promise I am on the Devin path after this roulette.
Hey, you still on for the DT show?
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I dropped the needle on the Sabrepulse 1985.
(https://c.tenor.com/saq4txiPs30AAAAC/qbert-game.gif)
I never said it was a recommendation. :lol
Thanks Buddy. that's a great breakdown. I promise I am on the Devin path after this roulette.
Hey, you still on for the DT show?
Yup!
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I'm so glad they moved it. No worse night of the entire year to drive into Boston than the Tuesday before Thanksgiving. Plus, I would've had to be at work at 5am the next day.
A Friday night now! Yes!! My son will be going with me. He'll be 19 by the time of the show.
Wild we're sitting right next to each other! :lol
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Guys, what is the deal with 1985? What's it about? Why 1985?
I have no idea but always assumed it was some sort of Tron/The Matrix type of thing.
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Guys, what is the deal with 1985? What's it about? Why 1985?
I have no idea but always assumed it was some sort of Tron/Matrix type of thing.
Tron? :rollin
I dropped the needle on the Sabrepulse 1985.
(https://c.tenor.com/saq4txiPs30AAAAC/qbert-game.gif)
I never said it was a recommendation. :lol
Under what circumstance would you ever listen to something like this?
In the car?
Working out?
Bathing the cats?
WTF?? :lol
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From Wikipedia:
Affinity covers subjects such as the evolution of computing and humanity, the relationship between man and machine, human behavior and modern society, and it also asks if "artificial intelligence will ever surpass the human capacity to create/recreate life".[4][5][6] When asked if it was a concept album, the vocalist Ross Jennings said that it "is more like a soundtrack to a series of recurring themes than an actual concept album." He also said that none of the band members "feel like we've made our best work yet, let alone 'made it'. So that urge to produce something better than last time will always be there."[4]
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Cool, thanks, HOF.
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Rank the 6 Haken albums.
The Mountain
Aquarius
Visions
----the demos, tbh
Affinity
----Restoration
Vector
Virus
Top 5 Devin albums?
in no order, Ocean Machine, Terria, Ziltoid, Deconstruction, Casualties of Cool
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To add to the Devin albums. Empath kind of covers all of his styles. Often in the same song.
for me.
1. Deconstruction
2. Terria
3. Syncestra
4. Empath
5. Ziltoid 2 - I'm sure this won't be a popular pick.
Thing is the bottom three could change from day to day depending on my mood. Top 2 are pretty much set though.
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Haken albums...
Crystalised (my favorite song of theirs)
The Mountain
Affinity
Visions
Aquarius
Virus
Vector
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Crystalised (my favorite song of theirs)
Why didn't you send that instead of the crap you did?
:corn :lol
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:lol
Didn't want to send an epic. It's almost 20 minutes long
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Last four songs I have to rough out writeups are
Veil
Carousel
Nocturnal Conspiracy
Pareidolia
I have NO IDEA how Paradeidolia will end up..
Earlier, I mentioned my wife took the day off. Nope! I have to bring her to work after her Dr's appt, so....I should finish writeups tomorrow. I have a general ranking going. Just have to assign scores.
Shooting for Thursday results.
I'll post my Haken album rankings based on the scores, as soon as I have them ready.
I am taking note of the album rankings, especially the Devin rankings.
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Honestly I woke up this morning and wanted to hear Anneke song some Devin tunes.
I feel like my work here is complete. :) :) :)
(Her latest solo album is a treasure as well.)
You did good, son.
I dropped the needle on that album. Maybe in 1996, but I'm not sure that's for me. Can I WATCH her sing it and listen to something else??
Anneke is good and all but honestly Ché is where it's at. :)
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No no no....
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No no no....
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:lol
Ché is another vocalist Devin's worked with; she's on Casualties of Cool and a few spots on Ki and Empath. I like her voice even better than Anneke's.
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For everyone:
I wanted to ask..
Rank the 6 Haken albums.
1. The Mountain
2. Aquarius
[Big gap]
3. Affinity
4. Virus
5. Visions
[Restoration]
[Medium-sized gap]
6. Vector
I only know two Devin albums, Transcendence and Epicloud, and I haven't listened to Epicloud enough to compare them.
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No no no....
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:lol
Ché is another vocalist Devin's worked with; she's on Casualties of Cool and a few spots on Ki and Empath. I like her voice even better than Anneke's.
If I'm being honest I could listen to either Anneke or Ché sing all day.
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Top 5 Devy:
Addicted
Infinity
Terria
Accelerated Evolution
Synchestra
I only have two Haken albums so won't bother ranking those.
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From Wikipedia:
Affinity covers subjects such as the evolution of computing and humanity, the relationship between man and machine, human behavior and modern society, and it also asks if "artificial intelligence will ever surpass the human capacity to create/recreate life".[4][5][6] When asked if it was a concept album, the vocalist Ross Jennings said that it "is more like a soundtrack to a series of recurring themes than an actual concept album." He also said that none of the band members "feel like we've made our best work yet, let alone 'made it'. So that urge to produce something better than last time will always be there."[4]
That's what Wikipedia says about Affinity, because that's what the band said at the time. Over time it's become pretty clear among the fanbase that it is in fact a concept album after all, with a narrative (which explores all those different themes/subjects) that can be taken at different levels. The basic premise is something along the lines of an AI that was created (and launched in a satellite, but that part could be more metaphorical) to look at humanity from the outside and figure out how to improve our lives/save us from some sort of disaster. But then something goes wrong and the people who created don't fix it (either because they don't know how or maybe can't be bothered). So the satellite just drifts away towards the sun and observes humanity collapse in on itself.
1985 is supposed to be when the AI/satellites starts its work, hence all the 80s sensibilities in that song (and to some extent in other parts of the album too).
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Anyway, rankings!
Haken:
1. The Mountain
2. Vector/Virus (if I need to separate them then I give a slight edge to Virus)
3. Affinity
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4. Restoration EP
5. Visions
6. Aquarius
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7. Demo
Devy:
1. Terria
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2. Addicted
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3. Transcendence
4. Synchestra
5. Infinity
But I also love:
Accelerated Evolution
Casualties of Cool
Deconstruction
Empath
Epicloud
Ghost
Ki
Z²
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Haken ranking:
1. Visions
2. Affinity
3. The Mountain
4. Vector
5. Aquarius
6. Virus
Devy ranking:
1. Ocean Machine
2. Accelerated Evolution
3. Ziltoid The Omniscient
4. Synchestra
5. Addicted
For me his discography is very mixed, some records are great, Ocean Machine is a top 50 all-time record for me, and others I don't really care for.
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Haken:
1. Aquarius
2. Affinity
3. The Mountain
4. Virus
5. Visions
6. Vector
Devin Top 5:
1. Ki
2. Terria
3. Ocean Machine
4. Casualties of Cool
5. Deconstruction
I would throw in either City of Alien somewhere if Strapping Young Lad is allowed as well.
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Cool, thank you for the rankings. All over the place, of course.
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Cool, thank you for the rankings. All over the place, of course.
:lol
Yeah, the albums are so diverse for me, even from album to album. The distance from Aquarius to Mountain is as big as that from Mountain to Virus.
That being said, The Mountain is the best and anyone who says differently is just wrong.
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A Friday night now! Yes!! My son will be going with me. He'll be 19 by the time of the show.
Wild we're sitting right next to each other! :lol
Nice! I'm going with my friend, and with my dad. He'll be 63 by the time of the show. :biggrin:
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No no no....
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Cher. I saw her live, once. And I watched Moonstruck this past week, where she's quite the looker.
I'm still Team Anneke on this topic.
As for the Devin rankings, I like the Devin Townsend Project records most. For me:
Addicted
Transcendence
Ghost
Deconstruction
Ki
Empath is really good as well.
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Stads, I didn’t take you for a Devin fan. That’s cool.
And Cher is a fucking skank. ;D
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Haken albums:
Aquarius
The Mountain
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Vector
---
Affinity
---
Visions
Virus
Devin in no order: Terria, Casualties of Cool, Addicted, Transcendence, Ki I guess?
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I've been spectating a bit and I'd rank as follows:
Haken -
1. The Mountain
2. Affinity
3. Visions (literally based on the strength of the title track)
4. Aquarius
5. Vector
6. Virus
7. Restoration
I've never actually heard the demo. As for the submissions this round, if I'd been participating I'd 100% have sent Visions (can't believe not a single one of you sent this) and Because It's There.
As for Devy -
1. Addicted
2. Terria
3. Epicloud
4. Empath
5. Accelerated Evolution
That could change pretty regularly tbh.
I should've joined this roulette but never mind. Can't wait to see how many new Coheed and Cambria fans are born out of this. They are the greatest band in the world after all.
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Someone help me with the very beginning of Pareidolia. I can’t place it and it’s bugging me.
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Someone help me with the very beginning of Pareidolia. I can’t place it and it’s bugging me.
What, that it’s kinda Home-ish?
Haken album rankings:
Affinity
The Mountain
Vector
Restoration
Visions
Aquarius
Virus
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1. The Mountain
2. Vector
3. Visions
4. Affinity
5. Aquarius
6. Virus
7. Restoration EP (I've only heard it a couple times)
I think all these albums are great. The Mountain and Vector are more or less tied for first, I could easily have put Vector at #1 instead. Virus may be at the bottom, but I think Messiah Complex is one of Haken's greatest songs.
If I was participating, it's hard to say what I would've sent, but if I knew what songs were going to be sent ahead of time, I would've most likely picked Eternal Rain and either Cockroach King or Insomnia.
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Someone help me with the very beginning of Pareidolia. I can’t place it and it’s bugging me.
What, that it’s kinda Home-ish?
What, that it's kinda Forty Six & 2-ish?
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Just realized I am seeing 2 of the bands in this roulette this Friday :metal
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Stads, I didn’t take you for a Devin fan. That’s cool.
And Cher is a fucking skank. ;D
It's an interesting story (to me, anyway). I never heard of the guy, except he was singing on Steve Vai's new record. Listened to it, HATED it, and slagged him off from then on, for years. What little I heard - Strapping Young Lad - just reinforced my feelings (the skullet didn't help). Then Dr. Chadler sent me that Deep Peace live in a roulette, and I LOVED it, then I went and read his autobiography and really liked the guy's honesty (with himself) and integrity. Figured I owed him a second chance, so dug into that live release (I think I told you; it's four albums, one a night for four consecutive nights, live) and they SLAY. In the meantime, I had gotten into Anneke and so her presence didn't hurt). I bought Transcendence and Empathy and loved them both. I even went back to Vai's record and I like it now. Still dislike SYL, though. But I'd consider myself a Devy fan.
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Stads, I didn’t take you for a Devin fan. That’s cool.
And Cher is a fucking skank. ;D
It's an interesting story (to me, anyway). I never heard of the guy, except he was singing on Steve Vai's new record. Listened to it, HATED it, and slagged him off from then on, for years. What little I heard - Strapping Young Lad - just reinforced my feelings (the skullet didn't help). Then Dr. Chadler sent me that Deep Peace live in a roulette, and I LOVED it, then I went and read his autobiography and really liked the guy's honesty (with himself) and integrity. Figured I owed him a second chance, so dug into that live release (I think I told you; it's four albums, one a night for four consecutive nights, live) and they SLAY. In the meantime, I had gotten into Anneke and so her presence didn't hurt). I bought Transcendence and Empathy and loved them both. I even went back to Vai's record and I like it now. Still dislike SYL, though. But I'd consider myself a Devy fan.
I wanted to send Steve Vai’s Touching Tongues (ew right?) just to see TAC’s reaction. He would have hated it.
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Stads, I didn’t take you for a Devin fan. That’s cool.
And Cher is a fucking skank. ;D
It's an interesting story (to me, anyway). I never heard of the guy, except he was singing on Steve Vai's new record. Listened to it, HATED it, and slagged him off from then on, for years. What little I heard - Strapping Young Lad - just reinforced my feelings (the skullet didn't help). Then Dr. Chadler sent me that Deep Peace live in a roulette, and I LOVED it, then I went and read his autobiography and really liked the guy's honesty (with himself) and integrity. Figured I owed him a second chance, so dug into that live release (I think I told you; it's four albums, one a night for four consecutive nights, live) and they SLAY. In the meantime, I had gotten into Anneke and so her presence didn't hurt). I bought Transcendence and Empathy and loved them both. I even went back to Vai's record and I like it now. Still dislike SYL, though. But I'd consider myself a Devy fan.
Cool. Love that.
Skullet :lol
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I'm adding my Haken ranking, because why not? :biggrin:
1. Affinity (no doubt my favorite - such a fun, bright album with great melodies and cool musical ideas all around)
2. The Mountain
Then they are all pretty close (I mean it in a good way - I find even my "least favorite" to be a highly enjoyable listen)
3. Virus
4. Visions
5. Aquarius
6. Vector
Visions and Aquarius I basically like the same way. And, as much as Vector and Virus are clearly cut from the same cloth, I think the latter has a little more "color" and variety. It was a nice surprise last year. Then again, Vector might be last in this ranking, but it's a very, very good record.
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Who sent you "Deep Peace"?
Oh and the Vai album is awesome.
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I feel like my work here is complete. :) :) :)
(Her latest solo album is a treasure as well.)
Stadler - I actually have to thank you again for pimping this in another thread a few months ago. I had only listened to it in passing, in part because I hadn't been super-impressed with her solo stuff to date, despite absolutely LOVING her and her voice in The Gathering. Then, seeing your appreciation for it, I gave it another solid shot and it's indeed a beautiful album. Laid back but very lively, and with great melodies (and, of course, THAT voice)
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Who sent you "Deep Peace"?
ProfessorPeart sent me it, and Stadler sent me the live version.
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Someone help me with the very beginning of Pareidolia. I can’t place it and it’s bugging me.
What, that it’s kinda Home-ish?
YES.... but I feel like I'm thinking something else.
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Someone help me with the very beginning of Pareidolia. I can’t place it and it’s bugging me.
What, that it’s kinda Home-ish?
What, that it's kinda Forty Six & 2-ish?
Tim, this.
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Someone help me with the very beginning of Pareidolia. I can’t place it and it’s bugging me.
What, that it’s kinda Home-ish?
What, that it's kinda Forty Six & 2-ish?
Tim, this.
Damn...that is close...but...I've never heard 46 & 2 before. :lol
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Someone help me with the very beginning of Pareidolia. I can’t place it and it’s bugging me.
What, that it’s kinda Home-ish?
What, that it's kinda Forty Six & 2-ish?
Tim, this.
Damn...that is close...but...I've never heard 46 & 2 before. :lol
Why the fuck isn't there a Tool round, then? :lol
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Someone help me with the very beginning of Pareidolia. I can’t place it and it’s bugging me.
What, that it’s kinda Home-ish?
What, that it's kinda Forty Six & 2-ish?
Tim, this.
Damn...that is close...but...I've never heard 46 & 2 before. :lol
(https://i.postimg.cc/ncvmgqc6/say-what.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
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Someone help me with the very beginning of Pareidolia. I can’t place it and it’s bugging me.
What, that it’s kinda Home-ish?
What, that it's kinda Forty Six & 2-ish?
Tim, this.
Damn...that is close...but...I've never heard 46 & 2 before. :lol
Motherfucking Tool round initiated
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Someone help me with the very beginning of Pareidolia. I can’t place it and it’s bugging me.
What, that it’s kinda Home-ish?
What, that it's kinda Forty Six & 2-ish?
Tim, this.
Damn...that is close...but...I've never heard 46 & 2 before. :lol
Motherfucking Tool round initiated
YES
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Please don't :lol
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We should all just send TAC 2 BTBAM songs and 2 Tool songs next round :neverusethis:
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I've heard only one Tool song and I thought it was kind of boring. But that was many years ago.
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I've heard only one Tool song and I thought it was kind of boring. But that was many years ago.
Which song was that, if you remember?
I go through phases with Tool where I listen to all their music consistently, and then don't listen to them for months.
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I've heard only one Tool song and I thought it was kind of boring. But that was many years ago.
It's the same song.
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I've heard only one Tool song and I thought it was kind of boring. But that was many years ago.
Which song was that, if you remember?
I go through phases with Tool where I listen to all their music consistently, and then don't listen to them for months.
Don't remember the song name, but it had like CGI worms or something in the music video.
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I personally think Tool have some cool stuff, but in general they’re massively overrated and unreasonably deified for doing nothing noteworthy.
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Like Haken, Tool has one really cool album that I like (Lateralus), but I’ve never had any interest in owning any of their other albums. That’s as much Maynard as I can take.
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I've heard only one Tool song and I thought it was kind of boring. But that was many years ago.
Which song was that, if you remember?
I go through phases with Tool where I listen to all their music consistently, and then don't listen to them for months.
Don't remember the song name, but it had like CGI worms or something in the music video.
Was that Schism I wonder?
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Like Haken, Tool has one really cool album that I like (Lateralus), but I’ve never had any interest in owning any of their other albums. That’s as much Maynard as I can take.
you're not missing anything! the front half of 10,000 days is pretty solid i guess. the back half is boring. and aenema does nothing for me either.
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Aenima made number 2 on my top 50, so there's my opinion on Tool.
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Don't remember the song name, but it had like CGI worms or something in the music video.
Was that Schism I wonder?
Those don't look like the worms I remember. Going off of related videos, I think it's Vicarious. Those look more like the worms I remember.
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Don't remember the song name, but it had like CGI worms or something in the music video.
Was that Schism I wonder?
Those don't look like the worms I remember. Going off of related videos, I think it's Vicarious. Those look more like the worms I remember.
So many Tool worm videos.
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Who sent you "Deep Peace"?
ProfessorPeart sent me it, and Stadler sent me the live version.
Sorry, that was meant for Stadler.
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Who sent you "Deep Peace"?
ProfessorPeart sent me it, and Stadler sent me the live version.
Sorry, that was meant for Stadler.
I thought he said JBoy did.
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Those don't look like the worms I remember. Going off of related videos, I think it's Vicarious. Those look more like the worms I remember.
So many Tool worm videos.
In my opinion, one worm video is too many worm videos.
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Don't remember the song name, but it had like CGI worms or something in the music video.
Was that Schism I wonder?
Those don't look like the worms I remember. Going off of related videos, I think it's Vicarious. Those look more like the worms I remember.
Probably. I haven't seen any of them for years. Love Tool but their videos never really interested me.
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Results stats..
12 of 17 scored worse than last round.
The average score of the round dropped by .20, which frankly surprised me. I thought it'd be more.
I thought there were 4 excellent tunes, and a couple of good ones. The rest were OK.
If I were ranking the albums by the average score of their submissions in this round it'd go:
Visions
Vector
Aquarius
Virus
The Mountain
Affinity
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hell yeah i'm screwed :metal
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hell yeah i'm screwed :metal
You're one of the 5 ^s
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yummy green caret :2metal:
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If I were ranking the albums by the average score of their submissions in this round it'd go:
Visions
Vector
Aquarius
Virus
The Mountain
Affinity
Uh-oh.... :corn
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If I were ranking the albums by the average score of their submissions in this round it'd go:
Visions
Vector
Aquarius
Virus
The Mountain
Affinity
Uh-oh.... :corn
Sorry guys, this is all my fault.
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You're not the only one that sent 1985.
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I would call this extremely medium news for me—looks like Drowning in the Flood did decently well, while In Memoriam might have bombed. But I'm not at all surprised that the right strategy was "TAC likes Dream Theater, so send songs from the most Dream Theater Haken album."
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I'm already rethinking my strategy. BTBAM is my dartboard round. I had Neal all picked, but am thinking about just saying screw it and not trying to be safe with both my picks. One is way out there already, thinking about just blowing it up.
Opeth might be my Wild Card round. PT is set, but I might blow that up as well. Still haven't picked Masto-tracks yet. He took Crack The Skye and H&G away.
Winning is for losers. Just go for broke. :metal
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So...Haken..
Thank you everyone for all of the submissions. This was a real eye ear opening experience.
Here's what I think. There were a handful of songs that I really liked. I will definitely do a run through of their discography, and if they release anything new, I will definitely check it out.
If I can find 3 or 4 songs from each album that I really like, I'll be happy.
I found the vocals just fine. In some spots, he was excellent. On thing Haken does really well is write memorable choruses. Sometimes, they seamlessly appear out of nowhere.
I feel like some people have a DT snobbery against Haken. But even though they're not nearly as good or as musical ;D, I believe they stand on their own as a quality band.
So, am I converted?
More yes than no!
Two for two DTF!!!
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So we need to see them together Tim.
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This is the one thing I love about exploring music and giving bands a chance. You never know what you might find! :metal
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I'm already rethinking my strategy. BTBAM is my dartboard round. I had Neal all picked, but am thinking about just saying screw it and not trying to be safe with both my picks. One is way out there already, thinking about just blowing it up.
Opeth might be my Wild Card round. PT is set, but I might blow that up as well. Still haven't picked Masto-tracks yet. He took Crack The Skye and H&G away.
Winning is for losers. Just go for broke. :metal
I'm wild-carding on Neal Morse because I have no idea how TAC's going to react to pretty much anything I choose. I've got my choices lined up for Coheed and I know one of my Opeth choices. PT I think it literally doesn't matter because TAC isn't going to like them. But I'm definitely on board with the going for broke strategy on the whole. Gonna lean more into sending songs I like than trying to guess.
I still have not heard one note of BTBAM, and I've heard like one Mastodon song several years ago. Just gonna like read some reviews or something and decide. Don't have time to listen through a bunch of their stuff.
So...Haken..
Thank you everyone for all of the submissions. This was a real eye ear opening experience.
Here's what I think. There were a handful of songs that I really liked. I will definitely do a run through of their discography, and if they release anything new, I will definitely check it out.
If I can find 3 or 4 songs from each album that I really like, I'll be happy.
I found the vocals just fine. In some spots, he was excellent. On thing Haken does really well is write memorable choruses. Sometimes, they seamlessly appear out of nowhere.
I feel like some people have a DT snobbery against Haken. But even though they're not nearly as good or as musical ;D, I believe they stand on their own as a quality band.
So, am I converted?
More yes than no!
Two for two DTF!!!
This is awesome! Glad to hear this went well for you.
I agree that memorable choruses are a real strength for Haken.
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Rossults
Cyril
Falling Back To Earth.....8.8
Wow, this song was wonderful.
Interesting beginning. At about the :53 mark, this reminds me of Rishloo. The first 2:19 seems to set the song, giving way to the chorus, which is fantastic. I am all for the wanking from 2:37 -4:40, especially at 4:04 when it heavies up. While I do prefer my wanking in the first half of the section to be heavier, I can live with what it is. It’s still well composed. Nice classy section at 6:00 and it continues as the vocals join. Nice beefy riffing at 9:22. This song has patience without meandering. Love the soft bit before the final chorus explodes. So good.
Pareidolia....7.7
This song needs more listens, has a lot of potential.
This song, just in the first couple minutes feels so similar to a lot of things, though I’m having trouble placing the connections. The verses seem to move along uneventfully, but this has a really nice chorus. Has a cool instrumental section leading to a not quite haunting section at 4:40. This middle section does keep a decent pace even though it’s not rocking out. I feel like I like these middle couple of minutes over the first couple minutes of the song. 7:19…YES! This song ends strong, and it really takes its time getting there. A nice show of patience in the songwriting.
8.8+7.7=16.5/2=8.25
Romdrums
The Endless Knot....7.6
Lots going on in this relatively shorter song.
So, not sure what I was thinking when I posted the First Impression. The songs plods a bit for the first two minutes, but at the 2:00 mark, it goes into a nice vocal line. I don’t even mind the electronic treatments in the following part right before the awesome guitar solo. Nice vocal bridge after that. The slowdown at 4:00 is a nice touch building up to the final chorus.
Pareidolia....7.7
This song needs more listens, has a lot of potential.
This song, just in the first couple minutes feels so similar to a lot of things, though I’m having trouble placing the connections. The verses seem to move along uneventfully, but this has a really nice chorus. Has a cool instrumental section leading to a not quite haunting section at 4:40. This middle section does keep a decent pace even though it’s not rocking out. I feel like I like these middle couple of minutes over the first couple minutes of the song. 7:19…YES! This song ends strong, and it really takes its time getting there. A nice show of patience in the songwriting.
7.7+7.6=15.3/2=7.65
LudwigVan
Prosthetic...7.5
This song rocks. Pretty simple and straightforward.
Heavy Haken!! The rhythm under the verses is really cool. I like the chorus. 3:30 is a nice section starting with the solo .4:19 -4:32 is the best part of the song.
I should like this song due to the relative heaviness, but at 6 minutes, it really doesn’t offer a lot. There are way too many other interesting bits and passages in this round.
The Endless Knot...7.6
Lots going on in this relatively shorter song.
So, not sure what I was thinking when I posted the First Impression. The songs plods a bit for the first two minutes, but at the 2:00 mark, it goes into a nice vocal line. I don’t even mind the electronic treatments in the following part right before the awesome guitar solo. Nice vocal bridge after that. The slowdown at 4:00 is a nice touch building up to the final chorus.
7.5+7.6=15.1/2=7.55
Kingshmegland
Veil....8.5
Pretty incredible song right here.
Starts out strong. Love the underneath at 2:22. This verse is cool, and the chorus is nice. I like the part at 3:37..keys/horns? Then the whole instrumental section that ends at 5:46 is awesome. I’ve heard some electronica try and poke its head out a couple of times, but thankfully they whack-a-mole-it. Nice solo at 7:17. The song mellows a bit for the next few minutes, but it still maintains my interest leading to a slightly wanky solo section…which I don’t mind in the least. Easily one of the strongest songs in the round.
Carousel...8.0
This is a good song, but there’s no way I can dissect it in one listen.
This begins with some nice vocals, and the band starts off great. It builds a bit. Right at 1:57 for a couple of seconds, I love what I think it's going to do.....but it reverts back to a verse. Overall though, I like the heaviness it begins with. I like the cool mellow part in the middle. The instrumental section that follows it is…I like these kinds of sections. Sets up that nice chorus that emerges from it. It ebbs and flows some more till the end. Listening to this, it reminded me in bits of Train Of Thought. This is a quality track.
8.5+8.0=16.5/2=8.25
Lonestar
Darkest Light....7.0
This song feels a lot longer than it is. Not necessarily a complaint, but more of an observation.
I’ve had a hard time wrapping my head around this song. The structure seems simple enough, but this is probably the least pleasurable to the ears song in the round. The keyboards are kind of grating, and if Ross sang like this in every song, I’d be very upset.
Atlas Stone....7.5
The last two minutes of this was fantastic.
I like the piano it the intro. The chorus in the build up is a nice touch. It’s taken me a few listens to merge the verse with the chorus. So this has a jazzy section which, well, at least it’s not electronica. Quick nice solo follows it. That bass at 5:22…nice. Those are some sick vocals at the end.
7.0+7.5=14.5/2=7.25
Buddy
Veil....8.5
Pretty incredible song right here.
Starts out strong. Love the underneath at 2:22. This verse is cool, and the chorus is nice. I like the part at 3:37..keys/horns? Then the whole instrumental section that ends at 5:46 is awesome. I’ve heard some electronica try and poke its head out a couple of times, but thankfully they whack-a-mole-it. Nice solo at 7:17. The song mellows a bit for the next few minutes, but it still maintains my interest leading to a slightly wanky solo section…which I don’t mind in the least. Easily one of the strongest songs in the round.
1985....7.5
Not quite as immediate as some of the other longer songs.
Starts off pretty upbeat. Ah..Asia keyboards and electronic drums? Is this the 80’s? Is this what they’re going for? Not sure about the verse. The chorus is nice though. I have to admit, this song is pretty easy on the ears, even if unspectacular. Can’t say I love this part at 4:40ish. But the part at 5:10 is pretty cool.
5:47 is definitely an 80’s style solo section. 6:56 Holy Octavarium, Batman! That final chorus seems so much stronger than before. I think the instrumentation is stronger underneath. The last minute or so, instrumentally is excellent.
8.5+7.5=16/2=8.0
Kwyjibo
Nocturnal Conspiracy....9.0
Wow! Holy shit!
So..the first 2:30 of this song is absolutely phenomenal. Ross is fucking nails in this section. Amazing control, rising seamlessly in a couple of impactful moments. And then to even crank it up for the nxt brief section. 2:58-3:19…so freaking good. Smoking solo at 4:22, and the instrumental section that follows it, but before the wank, is awesome. The following vocal ends with a Freddie Mercury note at 8:15. The vocal that begins at 9:23 is amazing. Now this I feel. The ride cymbal and electric piano between the vocals are so good. If I have one complaint, the final 30 seconds is quite underwhelming, but the previous 12 and a half minutes are amazing.
Deathless....8.5
One of the mellower songs, but has a nice steady pace and build.
This song is really beautiful. Such a luscious opening. I kept thinking, how are they going to muck this up? Real tasteful playing in these opening verses, particularly the piano and drums. The chorus totally fits the verse. I like the guitar behind the next verse. Needs some Gary Moore right there but this is really nice. The song beats to the same pulse for 8 minutes, but I don’t mind. This is a beautiful song. The piano at the end, appearing out of the song as the rest of the other instruments fall away is brilliant.
9.0+8.5=17.5/2=8.75
425
Drowning In The Flood....7.8
Strong Structural Disorder vibe on this one.
Interesting vocal to begin the song. I do like the second vocal section that ends with the song title. From 2:01—3:17 there’s an awesome guitar solo and then the keyboards join in. Not sure I love the keyboard choices in the section. At the halfway point it slows right down. 4:25-5:50 what a classy and moving passage. Even when the vocals join it, it stays amazing. The band becomes whole again at 6:50 for a really grand section. If this were DT, for the last entire minute we’d be going Jordan WTF?
This is a fantastic song, but I can’t help but feel it punts the ending.
In Memoriam....7.0
I hope this song grows. It was a bit underwhelming at first.
Not a favorite, unfortunately. It’s kind of annoyingly keyboard in the beginning, save for the very first piano intro.. The only part I like is at 3:03, which is really cool. The chorus isn’t bad, but not nearly as memorable as some of the others.
7.8+7.0=14.8/2=7.40
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Elite
Puzzle Box....7.7
Even the electronic section in the middle couldn’t ruin this.
Puzzle Box has a great opening, continuing under the verse. OK..2:19..WTF is this? Guest appearance by fucking Q-bert? But the short section that follows it at 2:45 is great! The eltronica at 3:28..I guess it’s supporting but I could really go with out it. The section on a whole is really cool and eerie. Comes back metal at 5:20. 5:57 wow! Great section. Love the melody. Great vocal section to wind the song down. The drumming is nails in this song too.
The Strain....7.8
On the short side for this round, but I thought it was excellent.
Nice tight drumming in the opening verses. I like this prechorus, electronica notwithstanding.
This has a great chorus too. The mellow part in the middle is classy. Nice guitars in it. Back into the chorus, which has been one of the earworms of the round. The vocals are really pleasant on this. Nice concise and memorable song.
7.7+7.8=15.5/2=7.75
HOF
1985....7.5
Not quite as immediate as some of the other longer songs.
Starts off pretty upbeat. Ah..Asia keyboards and electronic drums? Is this the 80’s? Is this what they’re going for? Not sure about the verse. The chorus is nice though. I have to admit, this song is pretty easy on the ears, even if unspectacular. Can’t say I love this part at 4:40ish. But the part at 5:10 is pretty cool.
5:47 is definitely an 80’s style solo section. 6:56 Holy Octavarium, Batman! That final chorus seems so much stronger than before. I think the instrumentation is stronger underneath. The last minute or so, instrumentally is excellent.
Lapse....7.5
This song starts a bit iffy, but builds nicely.
This has a U2 feel to it big time in the beginning. It’s quite pleasant. It’s really groovy during the guitar solo. The chorus is nice. There’s certainly nothing I’d point to that I didn’t like, but there’s a lot more intriguing songs in this round.
This is a safe submission, but I can see how you’d have an..um.. affinity to it.
7.5+7.5=15/2=7.50
Ariich
Falling Back To Earth....8.8
Wow, this song was wonderful.
Interesting beginning. At about the :53 mark, this reminds me of Rishloo. The first 2:19 seems to set the song, giving way to the chorus, which is fantastic. I am all for the wanking from 2:37 -4:40, especially at 4:04 when it heavies up. While I do prefer my wanking in the first half of the section to be heavier, I can live with what it is. It’s still well composed. Nice classy section at 6:00 and it continues as the vocals join. Nice beefy riffing at 9:22. This song has patience without meandering. Love the soft bit before the final chorus explodes. So good.
1985....7.5
Not quite as immediate as some of the other longer songs.
Starts off pretty upbeat. Ah..Asia keyboards and electronic drums? Is this the 80’s? Is this what they’re going for? Not sure about the verse. The chorus is nice though. I have to admit, this song is pretty easy on the ears, even if unspectacular. Can’t say I love this part at 4:40ish. But the part at 5:10 is pretty cool.
5:47 is definitely an 80’s style solo section. 6:56 Holy Octavarium, Batman! That final chorus seems so much stronger than before. I think the instrumentation is stronger underneath. The last minute or so, instrumentally is excellent.
8.8+7.5=16.3/2=8.15
Wolfking
Prosthetic....7.5
This song rocks. Pretty simple and straightforward.
Heavy Haken!! The rhythm under the verses is really cool. I like the chorus. 3:30 is a nice section starting with the solo .4:19 -4:32 is the best part of the song.
I should like this song due to the relative heaviness, but at 6 minutes, it really doesn’t offer a lot. There are way too many other interesting bits and passages in this round.
Puzzle Box....7.7
Even the electronic section in the middle couldn’t ruin this.
Puzzle Box has a great opening, continuing under the verse. OK..2:19..WTF is this? Guest appearance by fucking Q-bert? But the short section that follows it at 2:45 is great! The eltronica at 3:28..I guess it’s supporting but I could really go with out it. The section on a whole is really cool and eerie. Comes back metal at 5:20. 5:57 wow! Great section. Love the melody. Great vocal section to wind the song down. The drumming is nails in this song too.
7.7+7.5=15.2/2=7.6
Puppies
Falling Back To Earth.....8.8
Wow, this song was wonderful.
Interesting beginning. At about the :53 mark, this reminds me of Rishloo. The first 2:19 seems to set the song, giving way to the chorus, which is fantastic. I am all for the wanking from 2:37 -4:40, especially at 4:04 when it heavies up. While I do prefer my wanking in the first half of the section to be heavier, I can live with what it is. It’s still well composed. Nice classy section at 6:00 and it continues as the vocals join. Nice beefy riffing at 9:22. This song has patience without meandering. Love the soft bit before the final chorus explodes. So good.
1985....7.5
Not quite as immediate as some of the other longer songs.
Starts off pretty upbeat. Ah..Asia keyboards and electronic drums? Is this the 80’s? Is this what they’re going for? Not sure about the verse. The chorus is nice though. I have to admit, this song is pretty easy on the ears, even if unspectacular. Can’t say I love this part at 4:40ish. But the part at 5:10 is pretty cool.
5:47 is definitely an 80’s style solo section. 6:56 Holy Octavarium, Batman! That final chorus seems so much stronger than before. I think the instrumentation is stronger underneath. The last minute or so, instrumentally is excellent.
8.8+7.5=16.3/2=8.15
Evermind
Pareidolia....7.7
This song needs more listens, has a lot of potential.
This song, just in the first couple minutes feels so similar to a lot of things, though I’m having trouble placing the connections. The verses seem to move along uneventfully, but this has a really nice chorus. Has a cool instrumental section leading to a not quite haunting section at 4:40. This middle section does keep a decent pace even though it’s not rocking out. I feel like I like these middle couple of minutes over the first couple minutes of the song. 7:19…YES! This song ends strong, and it really takes its time getting there. A nice show of patience in the songwriting.
Drowning In The Flood....7.8
Strong Structural Disorder vibe on this one.
Interesting vocal to begin the song. I do like the second vocal section that ends with the song title. From 2:01—3:17 there’s an awesome guitar solo and then the keyboards join in. Not sure I love the keyboard choices in the section. At the halfway point it slows right down. 4:25-5:50 what a classy and moving passage. Even when the vocals join it, it stays amazing. The band becomes whole again at 6:50 for a really grand section. If this were DT, for the last entire minute we’d be going Jordan WTF?
This is a fantastic song, but I can’t help but feel it punts the ending.
7.7+7.8=15.5/2=7.75
ProfessorPeart
Prosthetic...7.5
This song rocks. Pretty simple and straightforward.
Heavy Haken!! The rhythm under the verses is really cool. I like the chorus. 3:30 is a nice section starting with the solo .4:19 -4:32 is the best part of the song.
I should like this song due to the relative heaviness, but at 6 minutes, it really doesn’t offer a lot. There are way too many other interesting bits and passages in this round.
Shapeshifter...7.7
Starting with a nice guitar solo, the second half of this song crushes.
Professor, I’ll try and listen to the trilogy, but for grading purposes, I’ll take this as a standalone song. It holds up as is. I really don’t feel it’s incomplete in any way. I feel like the first three minutes of this are fairly unexciting. I do like the part that starts around the three minute mark, something about vampires. Love the ride cymbal in that section. The solo at 4:00 is tasty. Simple and elegant. 5:23…so good. 6:48 reminds me of the ending of Only A Matter Of Time. It takes a bit, but when this song gets going, it’s pretty good.
7.5+7.7=15.2/2=7.60
Vmadera
Darkest Light...7.0
I hope this song grows. It was a bit underwhelming at first.
I’ve had a hard time wrapping my head around this song. The structure seems simple enough, but this is probably the least pleasurable to the ears song in the round. The keyboards are kind of grating, and if Ross sang like this in every song, I’d be very upset.
Puzzle Box...7.7
This song crams a lot into it’s relatively short length. This will require more listens to break it down.
Puzzle Box has a great opening, continuing under the verse. OK..2:19..WTF is this? Guest appearance by fucking Q-bert? But the short section that follows it at 2:45 is great! The eltronica at 3:28..I guess it’s supporting but I could really go with out it. The section on a whole is really cool and eerie. Comes back metal at 5:20. 5:57 wow! Great section. Love the melody. Great vocal section to wind the song down. The drumming is nails in this song too.
7.7+7.0=14.7/2=7.35
Stadler
Prosthetic....7.5
This song rocks. Pretty simple and straightforward.
Heavy Haken!! The rhythm under the verses is really cool. I like the chorus. 3:30 is a nice section starting with the solo .4:19 -4:32 is the best part of the song.
I should like this song due to the relative heaviness, but at 6 minutes, it really doesn’t offer a lot. There are way too many other interesting bits and passages in this round.
Carousel....8.0
This is a good song, but there’s no way I can dissect it in one listen.
This begins with some nice vocals, and the band starts off great. It builds a bit. Right at 1:57 for a couple of seconds, I love what I think it's going to do.....but it reverts back to a verse. Overall though, I like the heaviness it begins with. I like the cool mellow part in the middle. The instrumental section that follows it is…I like these kinds of sections. Sets up that nice chorus that emerges from it. It ebbs and flows some more till the end. Listening to this, it reminded me in bits of Train Of Thought. This is a quality track.
7.5+8.0=15.5/2=7.75
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Round 2 Standings!
Kwyjibo...8.75
Cryil....8.25
Kingshmegland...8.25
Ariich....8.15
Puppies...8.15
Buddy....8.0
Elite....7.75
Evermind....7.75
Stadler....7.75
Romdrums....7.65
Wolfking...7.60
Professor....7.60
LudwigVan...7.55
HOF...7.50
425....7.40
Vmadera...7.35
Lonestar....7.25
Standings!
Ariich...9.0+8.15=17.15
Puppies...8.60+8.15=16.75
Kwyjibo...7.80+8.75=16.55
Stadler...8.50+7.75=16.25
Evermind...8.20+7.75=15.95
Kingshmegland...7.70+8.25=15.95
LudwigVan...8.35+7.55=15.90
Romdrums...8.25+7.65=15.90
VMadera...8.45+7.35=15.80
Professor...8.20+7.6=15.80
Cyril...7.55+8.25=15.80
Wolfking...7.80+7.6=15.40
425...7.90+7.40=15.30
Elite...7.50+7.75=15.25
Buddy...7.05+8.15=15.20
HOF...7.65+7.50=15.15
Lonestar...7.80+7.25=15.05
As always, check my math!!
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Let's get the BTBAM submissions in!!!
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WOOOOOTTT!!!!
And sent!
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Man, I should've played it a bit safer with my picks lol
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Hanging by a thread. Sent, begrudgingly (more like listened begrudgingly).
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Confirmed: I got too clever for my own good going with In Memoriam.
On the ending of Drowning in the Flood, I realized yesterday that the very end is a little strange when it's taken on its own, because it flows right into the next song. Glad you thought the song was fantastic otherwise, though! That 2:01 guitar section you called out is one of my favorite parts. 6:50, too. :tup
Looking at the standings, I feel like I'm far behind, but looking at the scores, it's all still pretty close.
I'll toss some darts at BTBAM songs soon.
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On the ending of Drowning in the Flood, I realized yesterday that the very end is a little strange when it's taken on its own, because it flows right into the next song.
Oh OK. It just felt like a Jordan wank.
Looking at the standings, I feel like I'm far behind, but looking at the scores, it's all still pretty close.
It's still early. Just send what Ariich sends. It's working for Puppies! :lol
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honestly the biggest plot twist of the round is you liking deathless that much :lol
i mean it is def top ten haken for me and one of if not my favorite on visions, so
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honestly the biggest plot twist of the round is you liking deathless that much :lol
i mean it is def top ten haken for me and one of if not my favorite on visions, so
It is a great song.
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On the ending of Drowning in the Flood, I realized yesterday that the very end is a little strange when it's taken on its own, because it flows right into the next song.
Oh OK. It just felt like a Jordan wank.
Oh, THAT's what you were objecting to. Just re-read your post while listening to it and I was talking about something else, how the end is a little sudden. Yeah, what you're talking about basically is wank if you want to call it that. :lol
Looking at the standings, I feel like I'm far behind, but looking at the scores, it's all still pretty close.
It's still early. Just send what Ariich sends. It's working for Puppies! :lol
Dear Ariich,
What is a "Between the Buried and Me"?
Kindest regards,
425
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:lol
Perfect!
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I really think before the btbam we all need to get a first impression of Cockroach King.
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I really think before the btbam we all need to get a first impression of Cockroach King.
I’ll do it tomorrow as soon as I get gone from work.
That said, get the BTBAM songs in!!
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I really think before the btbam we all need to get a first impression of Cockroach King.
this would be the perfect warmup for BTBAM's wackier side, tbh
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It's still early. Just send what Ariich sends. It's working for Puppies! :lol
I'm gonna start looking for the hidden cameras if Ariich ends up sending the same BtBaM songs as me... :lol
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I kinda regret not joining this roulette. Other than Devy who I'm not familiar with at all, I would have had a blast submitting songs for TAC.
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I kinda regret not joining this roulette. Other than Devy who I'm not familiar with at all, I would have had a blast submitting songs for TAC.
Sounds like you need to run a roulette yourself! :metal
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I kinda regret not joining this roulette. Other than Devy who I'm not familiar with at all, I would have had a blast submitting songs for TAC.
I'm starting to feel this way, too. I would've really liked sending for the BTBAM round in particular.
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I kinda regret not joining this roulette. Other than Devy who I'm not familiar with at all, I would have had a blast submitting songs for TAC.
I'm starting to feel this way, too. I would've really liked sending for the BTBAM round in particular.
I'm having a really hard time deciding on songs for this round. I keep going back and forth on several songs.
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Aaaaaaaaaand sent.
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I kinda regret not joining this roulette. Other than Devy who I'm not familiar with at all, I would have had a blast submitting songs for TAC.
Sounds like you need to run a roulette yourself! :metal
It's been on my mind forever and one day I will get the willpower and mental strength to be able to self-torture and take in the terrible suggestions that come my way. ;D
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Aaaaaaaaaand sent.
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Sent.
Thinking I'm just going to throw caution to the wind going forward.
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at the point where deathless gets an 8.5 and pareidolia gets a 7.7 we're basically dealing with a random number generator as far as i'm concerned so i'm just gonna stick to my guns with all the stuff i've sent so far :lol
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at the point where deathless gets an 8.5 and pareidolia gets a 7.7 we're basically dealing with a random number generator as far as i'm concerned so i'm just gonna stick to my guns with all the stuff i've sent so far :lol
:rollin Yeah, beneath the surface level TAC's tastes are an enigma wrapped in a mystery as far as I'm concerned.
I know one of by BTBAM submissions, the other I'm still mulling over. Hard when all of my favorite songs by them are banned. Will send soon tho
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One was my song of the year it was released. The other I just picked at random almost. As someone else said, it's really hard to single out tracks in a btbam album.
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Just sent my blind submission, guided only by "what seems popular on reddit."
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Just sent my blind submission, guided only by "what seems popular on reddit."
My 2 songs were based off of the 90 second clips in iTunes. I have not heard any more than that of either song. TAC will have heard more than me by the time he gets to them.
I have no music streaming service so clips are all I got.
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Sent, but my ears are still bleeding.
Although I recognize how good these musicians are, I just don't get BTBAM. Easily my least favorite band in the roulette. And when I listened to some of the clean vocal parts, I couldn't help thinking: Coldplay.
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honestly the biggest plot twist of the round is you liking deathless that much :lol
i mean it is def top ten haken for me and one of if not my favorite on visions, so
Yeah all of this, I didn't expect Tim to like a song that's both long and slow as much but I'm pleasantly surprised he did (even though it means Kwyji has gained ground on me!).
Anyway that round was awesome and very pleasing.
Just sent my blind submission, guided only by "what seems popular on reddit."
My 2 songs were based off of the 90 second clips in iTunes. I have not heard any more than that of either song. TAC will have heard more than me by the time he gets to them.
I have no music streaming service so clips are all I got.
Narrator: And then 425 and ProfessorPeart won the round.
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I love BTBAM but I haven't a clue what to send.
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I've narrowed it down to four songs, but damn it's now really hard to choose.
Tim will probably like them all, but obviously I want to pick the ones he'll like most.
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Yay, nice :metal
And why are you all so surprised that Tim likes a song like Deathless? We all know that inside a metalhead there's always a soft spot. :D
And now to find some BTBAM to send, so out with the darts and see where they stick.
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i think my picks are pretty close to flawless given that i don't have their best album or their best song to work with, but from what's left, nah, i think i nailed it
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i think my picks are pretty close to flawless given that i don't have their best album or their best song to work with, but from what's left, nah, i think i nailed it
Sending BTBAM to Tim last time was so much easier when White Walls was available.
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that's the one i mean when i refer to "their best song", yes :tup
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that's the one i mean when i refer to "their best song", yes :tup
I know, that's why I posted that. :D
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wtf, Nocturnal Conspiracy wins the round :lol
sending soon!
edit: crap, I can't send The Great Misdirect? Well, that's kind-of a bummer. Everything afterwards is a) not as good and b) not memorable enough to me to be able to pick out two songs right now :)
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edit: crap, I can't send The Great Misdirect? Well, that's kind-of a bummer. Everything afterwards is a) not as good and b) not memorable enough to me to be able to pick out two songs right now :)
Strongly disagree. For me, everything from Parrallax II onwards is better than eveything before.
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this a bad time to say neither of my picks were off parallax II, huh?
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wtf, Nocturnal Conspiracy wins the round :lol
And rightfully so ;D
And sent for the next round.
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edit: crap, I can't send The Great Misdirect? Well, that's kind-of a bummer. Everything afterwards is a) not as good and b) not memorable enough to me to be able to pick out two songs right now :)
Strongly disagree. For me, everything from Parrallax II onwards is better than eveything before.
My favourites from BTBAM are Colors and The Great Misdirect. I really enjoy the Automata albums, but the other three (Parallax, Coma Ecliptic and Colors II) kind of blend together in such a way that I don't know which song is which and can't recall any good parts. I feel like I must add that I'm also less familiar with those three albums.
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Sent.
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edit: crap, I can't send The Great Misdirect? Well, that's kind-of a bummer. Everything afterwards is a) not as good and b) not memorable enough to me to be able to pick out two songs right now :)
Strongly disagree. For me, everything from Parrallax II onwards is better than eveything before.
My favourites from BTBAM are Colors and The Great Misdirect. I really enjoy the Automata albums, but the other three (Parallax, Coma Ecliptic and Colors II) kind of blend together in such a way that I don't know which song is which and can't recall any good parts. I feel like I must add that I'm also less familiar with those three albums.
I think familiarity makes a big difference with all of BTBAM's music. A lot of their albums are a whole work where the individual songs have less of their own identity, but e.g. that's definitely the case with Colors but if you know it really well, things standout more. They do have a few albums with more distinct songs though (TGM and Automata in particular, and Parrallax II and Coma Ecliptic are maybe somewhere in between). But for me that doesn't affect how much I like them.
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Sent some epic stuff.
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after everyone has sent let's start a guessing competition which song(s) were sent most
In fact; why not do it for every round? :D
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Just sent my blind submission, guided only by "what seems popular on reddit."
My 2 songs were based off of the 90 second clips in iTunes. I have not heard any more than that of either song. TAC will have heard more than me by the time he gets to them.
I have no music streaming service so clips are all I got.
Narrator: And then 425 and ProfessorPeart won the round.
If I win I'll listen to my submissions
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I know 0 BTBAM songs even though I think I tried listening to Colors once. Time to roll the dice!
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My 2 songs were based off of the 90 second clips in iTunes. I have not heard any more than that of either song. TAC will have heard more than me by the time he gets to them.
I have no music streaming service so clips are all I got.
YouTube is free!
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I rolled the dice and sent! Gonna go listen to my songs now :lol
edit: one song was ehhhh, the other was pretty good though, I enjoyed it. Hopefully Tim doesn't!
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Lots to respond to from the overnight. I will when I get home and have my keyboard.
I think we’re just waiting on:
Stadler
Elite
Buddy
Vmadera
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Sent!
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My 2 songs were based off of the 90 second clips in iTunes. I have not heard any more than that of either song. TAC will have heard more than me by the time he gets to them.
I have no music streaming service so clips are all I got.
YouTube is free!
I'll see if I can find them later. I'm on my work laptop right now and I can't even tell you the names of the 2 songs I sent. Not a clue. I have them saved in a note on my main home PC.
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Sent.
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I think we’re just waiting on:
Stadler
Elite
Buddy
Vmadera
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at the point where deathless gets an 8.5 and pareidolia gets a 7.7 we're basically dealing with a random number generator as far as i'm concerned so i'm just gonna stick to my guns with all the stuff i've sent so far :lol
:lol :lol
Deathless is freaking awesome. Pareidolia was OK.
wtf, Nocturnal Conspiracy wins the round :lol
Why is that a WTF? That song is great!
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I rolled the dice and sent! Gonna go listen to my songs now :lol
This PM gave me a good laugh this morning!
Rolling a d6 (six-sided die) for the albums where...
and a d12 (twelve-sided die) for the song here's what the dice came up with!
(https://i.imgur.com/X9inQgk.jpg)
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I rolled the dice and sent! Gonna go listen to my songs now :lol
This PM gave me a good laugh this morning!
Rolling a d6 (six-sided die) for the albums where...
and a d12 (twelve-sided die) for the song here's what the dice came up with!
(https://i.imgur.com/X9inQgk.jpg)
How the hell does this work if the first five albums are banned? Is 2 The Silent Circus? Is 2 Coma Ecliptic? Would 1 and 6 both be Parallax II? :lol
I guess there are 6 releases post-TGM if you include Parallax I and both Automatas as separate...
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i mean if parallax I is #1 then it works out from there
in which case the two songs picked are..... both actually pretty good picks for TAC, funnily enough :lol
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i mean if parallax I is #1 then it works out from there
in which case the two songs picked are..... both actually pretty good picks for TAC, funnily enough :lol
Damn, you're right!
Also TAC do you mind if I send for Round 4 and 5 now? I've got two songs I think are decent for C&C and Neal Morse and I don't want to listen to either of them any more. :biggrin:
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i mean if parallax I is #1 then it works out from there
in which case the two songs picked are..... both actually pretty good picks for TAC, funnily enough :lol
Damn, you're right!
Also TAC do you mind if I send for Round 4 and 5 now? I've got two songs I think are decent for C&C and Neal Morse and I don't want to listen to either of them any more. :biggrin:
:corn Wonder what your picks are
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Ruslan, you are awesome.
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Also TAC do you mind if I send for Round 4 and 5 now? I've got two songs I think are decent for C&C and Neal Morse and I don't want to listen to either of them any more. :biggrin:
Same reason we you got Haken results on a ..Wedneday! :lol
Send whenever you want.
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i mean if parallax I is #1 then it works out from there
in which case the two songs picked are..... both actually pretty good picks for TAC, funnily enough :lol
Damn, you're right!
Also TAC do you mind if I send for Round 4 and 5 now? I've got two songs I think are decent for C&C and Neal Morse and I don't want to listen to either of them any more. :biggrin:
:corn Wonder what your picks are
Take a wild guess :neverusethis:
I wasn't able to find anything I liked better than those so
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I really think before the btbam we all need to get a first impression of Cockroach King.
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-25-2019/62egI1.gif)
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Did Evermind just send the same 2 songs I sent? :neverusethis:
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Did Evermind just send the same 2 songs I sent? :neverusethis:
No, you guys sent completely different songs.
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I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once. Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.
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I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once. Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.
About 15 years ago, I worked with a kid that knew I was a big Maiden fan. He brought in a CD and told me I'd love it. It sounded intriguing, but I couldn't get past the vocals. Really strange sound.
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I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once. Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.
I bought In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3 so I could review it for my college newspaper. I hated it so much I reviewed something else. I haven’t listened to it since but I figure I still have the CD. Guess I ought to dust it off and see if anything has changed in 18 years.
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I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once. Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.
About 15 years ago, I worked with a kid that knew I was a big Maiden fan. He brought in a CD and told me I'd love it. It sounded intriguing, but I couldn't get past the vocals. Really strange sound.
My initial reaction was that Coheed weren't around 15 years ago but then I discovered that I'm actually old now.
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I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once. Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.
About 15 years ago, I worked with a kid that knew I was a big Maiden fan. He brought in a CD and told me I'd love it. It sounded intriguing, but I couldn't get past the vocals. Really strange sound.
My initial reaction was that Coheed weren't around 15 years ago but then I discovered that I'm actually old now.
Yeah, when I started to type out that story, I initially wrote about 10 years ago...but it wasn't. It was 15. :lol
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I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once. Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.
About 15 years ago, I worked with a kid that knew I was a big Maiden fan. He brought in a CD and told me I'd love it. It sounded intriguing, but I couldn't get past the vocals. Really strange sound.
My initial reaction was that Coheed weren't around 15 years ago but then I discovered that I'm actually old now.
So its official, we are old?
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I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once. Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.
About 15 years ago, I worked with a kid that knew I was a big Maiden fan. He brought in a CD and told me I'd love it. It sounded intriguing, but I couldn't get past the vocals. Really strange sound.
My initial reaction was that Coheed weren't around 15 years ago but then I discovered that I'm actually old now.
So its official, we are old?
'fraid so, dude. As evidenced by how much I liked all that fogey music I got sent in my roulette. :P
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lol, old people :neverusethis:
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I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once. Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.
About 15 years ago, I worked with a kid that knew I was a big Maiden fan. He brought in a CD and told me I'd love it. It sounded intriguing, but I couldn't get past the vocals. Really strange sound.
My initial reaction was that Coheed weren't around 15 years ago but then I discovered that I'm actually old now.
So its official, we are old?
'fraid so, dude. As evidenced by how much I liked all that fogey music I got sent in my roulette. :P
And I participated and sent Thin Lizzy......
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I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once. Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.
About 15 years ago, I worked with a kid that knew I was a big Maiden fan. He brought in a CD and told me I'd love it. It sounded intriguing, but I couldn't get past the vocals. Really strange sound.
I agree with that person that Coheed has some significance Maiden influence. But I can't argue with the fact that Claudio Sanchez has a Geddy-Lee-tier weird voice. I suspect it's an "either it works for you or it doesn't" thing and nothing we send will change your mind, but maybe 15 years has changed things.
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I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once. Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.
About 15 years ago, I worked with a kid that knew I was a big Maiden fan. He brought in a CD and told me I'd love it. It sounded intriguing, but I couldn't get past the vocals. Really strange sound.
I agree with that person that Coheed has some significance Maiden influence. But I can't argue with the fact that Claudio Sanchez has a Geddy-Lee-tier weird voice. I suspect it's an "either it works for you or it doesn't" thing and nothing we send will change your mind, but maybe 15 years has changed things.
At about the same time, I also worked with another kid that knew I was a DT fan and he made me a copy of Deadwing and Ghost Reveries. That's how I know those albums.
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I'm curious how many unique songs we have for this round so far :corn
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I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once. Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.
About 15 years ago, I worked with a kid that knew I was a big Maiden fan. He brought in a CD and told me I'd love it. It sounded intriguing, but I couldn't get past the vocals. Really strange sound.
I agree with that person that Coheed has some significance Maiden influence. But I can't argue with the fact that Claudio Sanchez has a Geddy-Lee-tier weird voice. I suspect it's an "either it works for you or it doesn't" thing and nothing we send will change your mind, but maybe 15 years has changed things.
When I saw C and C about 10 years ago, they played a cover of The Trooper. It rocked pretty good.
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Of all the bands in this roulette, C&C and mastodon are the ones I know the most (both in top 5 bands for me). I'm honestly struggling to think of what to send because I want to make sure Tim likes the songs, and that's going to be hard :lol
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I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once. Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.
About 15 years ago, I worked with a kid that knew I was a big Maiden fan. He brought in a CD and told me I'd love it. It sounded intriguing, but I couldn't get past the vocals. Really strange sound.
I agree with that person that Coheed has some significance Maiden influence. But I can't argue with the fact that Claudio Sanchez has a Geddy-Lee-tier weird voice. I suspect it's an "either it works for you or it doesn't" thing and nothing we send will change your mind, but maybe 15 years has changed things.
At about the same time, I also worked with another kid that knew I was a DT fan and he made me a copy of Deadwing and Ghost Reveries. That's how I know those albums.
Interesting. So do you know those albums pretty well? That, in my opinion, would make both those artists really tough nuts to crack, because those strike me as the albums from each of them that would be most likely to appeal to you.
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I have to admit, I find it strange when people that love 70's era Rush rag on Claudio's voice.
For me, it was nothing because he reminded me of early Ged.
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I find it a little strange, but not totally crazy. I find their voices similar, but not the same. Personally I like most of what Claudio does, but I merely tolerate early Geddy (I think he takes a significant step forward on A Farewell to Kings and then another significant step forward on Permanent Waves).
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I have to admit, I find it strange when people that love 70's era Rush rag on Claudio's voice.
For me, it was nothing because he reminded me of early Ged.
I’m a Rush fan who tolerates more than loves Geddy’s 70s vocal style. My memory of C and C was that his voice sounded artificial in some way.
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I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once. Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.
About 15 years ago, I worked with a kid that knew I was a big Maiden fan. He brought in a CD and told me I'd love it. It sounded intriguing, but I couldn't get past the vocals. Really strange sound.
I agree with that person that Coheed has some significance Maiden influence. But I can't argue with the fact that Claudio Sanchez has a Geddy-Lee-tier weird voice. I suspect it's an "either it works for you or it doesn't" thing and nothing we send will change your mind, but maybe 15 years has changed things.
At about the same time, I also worked with another kid that knew I was a DT fan and he made me a copy of Deadwing and Ghost Reveries. That's how I know those albums.
Interesting. So do you know those albums pretty well? That, in my opinion, would make both those artists really tough nuts to crack, because those strike me as the albums from each of them that would be most likely to appeal to you.
So I do know Ghost Reveries pretty well. That album did stick with me, but the band did not. I listened to their follow up once and couldn't tell you the first thing about it. And I have heard Heritage a few times.
I don't like Michael Akerfeldt. As much as I don't care for his harsh vocals, his cleans are worse. That is my memory, so we'll see if anything has changed.
As far as Deadwing goes, I remember liking Arriving Somewhere and The Start of something Beautiful, though I've heard neither in a dozen years. I don't remember like very much of it at all. But again, we're talking 12-15 years ago.
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I'm curious how many unique songs we have for this round so far :corn
Submitting my weekly post...
I'll post stats once Stadler submits.
;D
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Regarding Coheed's vocals, it's similar to the band 3, Joey Eppard sounds like Claudio's brother. Though fun fact I guess Joey's brother played/plays drums for Coheed.
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I don't like Michael Akerfeldt. As much as I don't care for his harsh vocals, his cleans are worse. That is my memory, so we'll see if anything has changed.
What?!?!
Tim's a lost cause :biggrin:
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well, that tidbit of information barely if at all affects my two picks :tup
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well, that tidbit of information barely if at all affects my two picks :tup
Instrumentals are banned. ;D
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So...I'm about 10 songs in so far and it hit me. BTBAM is basically Death Metal Haken.
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well, that tidbit of information barely if at all affects my two picks :tup
Instrumentals are banned. ;D
this, also, does not affect my two picks
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So...I'm about 10 songs in so far and it hit me. BTBAM is basically Death Metal Haken.
Metalcore Haken*
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So...I'm about 10 songs in so far and it hit me. BTBAM is basically Death Metal Haken.
Metalcore Haken*
I mean, they haven't really been metalcore since Alaska...
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I don't like Michael Akerfeldt. As much as I don't care for his harsh vocals, his cleans are worse. That is my memory, so we'll see if anything has changed.
What?!?!
Tim's a lost cause :biggrin:
Tell me about it. This makes me just want to send their cover of Soldier Of Fortune. Mikael is sublime on that track. Even my wife was blown away by it and she is not into metal or Opeth in any way.
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Was listening to Damnation the other night, and I thought Akerfeldt sounds a good bit like Ross Jennings actually.
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So...I'm about 10 songs in so far and it hit me. BTBAM is basically Death Metal Haken.
How dare you.
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So...I'm about 10 songs in so far and it hit me. BTBAM is basically Death Metal Haken.
Metalcore Haken*
I mean, they haven't really been metalcore since Alaska...
I mean, they're progressive metalcore. Closer than death metal!
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there is really very, very little metalcore left in them if at all. the type of harsh vocals giles does and that's probably about it. death metal is definitely closer to accurate but in many ways they're practically just a prog metal band that has some harsh vocals at this point
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there is really very, very little metalcore left in them if at all. the type of harsh vocals giles does and that's probably about it. death metal is definitely closer to accurate but in many ways they're practically just a prog metal band that has some harsh vocals at this point
Pretty much this
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Was listening to Damnation the other night, and I thought Akerfeldt sounds a good bit like Ross Jennings actually.
This I don't hear at all. If Akerfeldt sounds like anyone it's David Coverdale imo, at least in his lower register, but really only a little bit.
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well, that tidbit of information barely if at all affects my two picks :tup
Instrumentals are banned. ;D
Which is actually a shame, because I would have sent you Nil by Mouth in the Haken round.
Does Opeth have instrumentals? Apart from Patterns in the Ivy I honestly can’t think of anything off the top of my head.
EDIT: Just checked.. I wasn’t really counting album openers, but there’s more of them.
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I'm kind of with Tim in regards to Arkerfeldts clean vox. I never quite understood the praise they get. I don't really have a big issue with them, but I've always felt he's pretty plain with his clean vocals.
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I'm kind of with Tim in regards to Arkerfeldts clean vox. I never quite understood the praise they get. I don't really have a big issue with them, but I've always felt he's pretty plain with his clean vocals.
It feels like it’s fairly common with most harsh vocalists, no? Looking at Mastodon as well.
The cleans that I’ve heard so far in this round aren’t actually that bad.
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I'm kind of with Tim in regards to Arkerfeldts clean vox. I never quite understood the praise they get. I don't really have a big issue with them, but I've always felt he's pretty plain with his clean vocals.
I've always kinda liked them, but he's obviously no Dickinson, LaBrie, Mercury etc.
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I'm kind of with Tim in regards to Arkerfeldts clean vox. I never quite understood the praise they get. I don't really have a big issue with them, but I've always felt he's pretty plain with his clean vocals.
I've always kinda liked them, but he's obviously no Dickinson, LaBrie, Mercury etc.
Thanks for clearing that up, Harry. :lol
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:lol
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I'm glad to see my silliness is spreading. Dare I say I'm like a (Haken) Virus? :neverusethis:
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I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once. Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.
Yeah I'm doing this for C&C too even though I own the Good Apollo I'm Morning Star IV: The Writing Writer album. Also doing this with Neal Morse and Mastodon as I only own Crack the Skye.
Neal has so many albums I'll probably have to use a d20! :lol
I'm kind of with Tim in regards to Arkerfeldts clean vox. I never quite understood the praise they get. I don't really have a big issue with them, but I've always felt he's pretty plain with his clean vocals.
I've always kinda liked them, but he's obviously no Dickinson, LaBrie, Mercury etc.
I think Mikael's cleans are quite good. I actually planned on sending songs with cleans and I think I'll stick with that anyway.
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I was listening to the bands I'm unfamiliar with on my commute home. Opeth is interesting, C&C is quite good, Mastodon is Mastodon, but Neal... I just don't get it. Granted I was just getting Spotify offerings, but nothing appealed to me. The next round is going to be a grind, thank God I can't drop any further in the rankings.
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Yes, I'll be sending Spock's Beard next round..
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I was listening to the bands I'm unfamiliar with on my commute home. Opeth is interesting, C&C is quite good, Mastodon is Mastodon, but Neal... I just don't get it. Granted I was just getting Spotify offerings, but nothing appealed to me. The next round is going to be a grind, thank God I can't drop any further in the rankings.
Neal is one of my favorite musicians, but his solo stuff since he left SB (including NMB) is not great.
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I was listening to the bands I'm unfamiliar with on my commute home. Opeth is interesting, C&C is quite good, Mastodon is Mastodon, but Neal... I just don't get it. Granted I was just getting Spotify offerings, but nothing appealed to me. The next round is going to be a grind, thank God I can't drop any further in the rankings.
Neal is one of my favorite musicians, but his solo stuff since he left SB (including NMB) is not great.
I don't quite agree, I think it's been pretty comparable in terms of being quite a mixed bag - some great albums and some not so great. That said, I think there a couple of Spock's albums that are easily superior to any of his solo albums. Though I'm not sure I'd want to send Tim any songs from them. Hmm, that's going to be the hardest round so far I think.
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I was listening to the bands I'm unfamiliar with on my commute home. Opeth is interesting, C&C is quite good, Mastodon is Mastodon, but Neal... I just don't get it. Granted I was just getting Spotify offerings, but nothing appealed to me. The next round is going to be a grind, thank God I can't drop any further in the rankings.
Neal is one of my favorite musicians, but his solo stuff since he left SB (including NMB) is not great.
I'll be sending two NMB songs. I tried listening to V and Snow and I just could... not. The NMB albums I checked out were far more palatable to me. I didn't bother with any true-blue solo records.
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I was listening to the bands I'm unfamiliar with on my commute home. Opeth is interesting, C&C is quite good, Mastodon is Mastodon, but Neal... I just don't get it. Granted I was just getting Spotify offerings, but nothing appealed to me. The next round is going to be a grind, thank God I can't drop any further in the rankings.
Neal is one of my favorite musicians, but his solo stuff since he left SB (including NMB) is not great.
I'll be sending two NMB songs. I tried listening to V and Snow and I just could... not. The NMB albums I checked out were far more palatable to me. I didn't bother with any true-blue solo records.
TAC and I are opposites, so you're probably all better off sending solo Neal stuff.
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I've heard one C&C in my life and only heard it once. Might take Ruslans approach as I don't want to listen to them at all lol.
Yeah I'm doing this for C&C too even though I own the Good Apollo I'm Morning Star IV: The Writing Writer album. Also doing this with Neal Morse and Mastodon as I only own Crack the Skye.
Neal has so many albums I'll probably have to use a d20! :lol
I appreciate this valiant, though very incorrect, effort to write out the full title for GAIBS4V1:FFTtEoM. :lol
For Neal, I'd recommend making sure you stick with his prog albums. Those would be the first six Spock's Beard albums and these of his solo albums:
Testimony
One
?
Sola Scriptura
Lifeline
Testimony 2
Momentum
Sola Gratia
The four Neal Morse Band albums would also qualify, but many of the songs do not satisfy the 75% Neal lead vocals rule and you'd have to check your submissions. (This applies to anyone sending NMB. Also, I volunteer to be a "checker" if anyone doesn't want to listen to the songs or doesn't know what Neal sounds like—note that it's possible to mix him up with one of the other lead singers.)
I was listening to the bands I'm unfamiliar with on my commute home. Opeth is interesting, C&C is quite good, Mastodon is Mastodon, but Neal... I just don't get it. Granted I was just getting Spotify offerings, but nothing appealed to me. The next round is going to be a grind, thank God I can't drop any further in the rankings.
I find it interesting (though not wholly unsurprising) that a lot of DT fans see absolutely nothing in Neal Morse. His music, especially his solo and NMB albums (I'm exactly the opposite of HOF in preferences), incorporates a lot of what I like most about Dream Theater on an even grander scale. The grandiosity, the setting up and reprisal of themes, the use of technicality as a way to build and express tension... these are hallmarks of Neal's post-SB prog works that are also what I love about songs like Home, Octavarium, In the Presence of Enemies, Breaking All Illusions and In the Name of God.
The reason I don't find it too surprising is because I recognize that that's only one dimension of DT's sound and that other people respond to different aspects of it, and because I recognize that NM has other elements that are pretty different from DT that people may not respond to (probably most importantly, the fact that his voice is nothing like JLB's). But I just find it interesting because they're two of my favorites for many of the same reasons.
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The four Neal Morse Band albums would also qualify, but many of the songs do not satisfy the 75% Neal lead vocals rule and you'd have to check your submissions. (This applies to anyone sending NMB. Also, I volunteer to be a "checker" if anyone doesn't want to listen to the songs or doesn't know what Neal sounds like—note that it's possible to mix him up with one of the other lead singers.)
Oh, I didn't spot that rule, it wasn't in the OP.
Seems kind of strict. I'm sure some of the Devy songs were more than 25% Anneke.
Also seems pretty difficult to police, a lot of the big choruses have all of them singing in harmony.
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The round is about Neal Morse. So Neal Morse should be the singer of any song sent. The Anneke songs slipped in because I didn’t realize they were even an option, so I thought I’d tighten up the NM round regarding vocals before I had to listen to MP sing.
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The four Neal Morse Band albums would also qualify, but many of the songs do not satisfy the 75% Neal lead vocals rule and you'd have to check your submissions. (This applies to anyone sending NMB. Also, I volunteer to be a "checker" if anyone doesn't want to listen to the songs or doesn't know what Neal sounds like—note that it's possible to mix him up with one of the other lead singers.)
Oh, I didn't spot that rule, it wasn't in the OP.
Seems kind of strict. I'm sure some of the Devy songs were more than 25% Anneke.
Also seems pretty difficult to police, a lot of the big choruses have all of them singing in harmony.
Yeah, people sort of ignored my question to TAC about vocals in the Devin round. I explicitly asked about that since some of the DTP stuff had other vocalists doing more of the vocals and TAC responded that it needed to be primarily Devin.
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The round is about Neal Morse. So Neal Morse should be the singer of any song sent. The Anneke songs slipped in because I didn’t realize they were even an option, so I thought I’d tighten up the NM round regarding vocals before I had to listen to MP sing.
I understand your motivation here, but just to be very clear: NMB is basically a band with three lead singers (none of whom, to be clear, is named Mike Portnoy) so you are cutting off a substantial amount of their discography.
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The round is about Neal Morse. So Neal Morse should be the singer of any song sent. The Anneke songs slipped in because I didn’t realize they were even an option, so I thought I’d tighten up the NM round regarding vocals before I had to listen to MP sing.
Yeah but in his current band the other guys sing too. It's still his band and his music and he does most of the singing.
Dunno, probably just means you'll be closing off stuff that you're probably more likely to enjoy. :lol
Yeah, people sort of ignored my question to TAC about vocals in the Devin round. I explicitly asked about that since some of the DTP stuff had other vocalists doing more of the vocals and TAC responded that it needed to be primarily Devin.
Bend It Like Bender is mostly Anneke. :lol
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Yeah Neal's voice is so generic anyways I have no idea how much of his vocals are on my songs.
Bullshit rule (in my opinion) :heart
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I'm gonna be a bit obnoxious about this rule if it stays in place because if I have to follow it, I want everyone else to have to follow it, too.
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Yeah Neal's voice is so generic anyways I have no idea how much of his vocals are on my songs.
Bullshit rule (in my opinion) :heart
I don't agree with the generic comment, but it is going to be difficult for non-NMB fans because I think it can be challenging to tell Neal and Eric Gillette apart.
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I find it interesting (though not wholly unsurprising) that a lot of DT fans see absolutely nothing in Neal Morse. His music, especially his solo and NMB albums (I'm exactly the opposite of HOF in preferences), incorporates a lot of what I like most about Dream Theater on an even grander scale. The grandiosity, the setting up and reprisal of themes, the use of technicality as a way to build and express tension... these are hallmarks of Neal's post-SB prog works that are also what I love about songs like Home, Octavarium, In the Presence of Enemies, Breaking All Illusions and In the Name of God.
The reason I don't find it too surprising is because I recognize that that's only one dimension of DT's sound and that other people respond to different aspects of it, and because I recognize that NM has other elements that are pretty different from DT that people may not respond to (probably most importantly, the fact that his voice is nothing like JLB's). But I just find it interesting because they're two of my favorites for many of the same reasons.
So part of it is I feel like Neal, when paired with MP*, falls into some of the same traps as DT did after Jordan joined the band. Everything has to be more extrem, more epic, longer, bigger, grander, etc. Neal's writing in SB just has more charm and a little more heart and soul to me.
*I love the early TA albums, but I think some of it started there. I will say Flying Colors is more restrained in general, and I do like those albums better than solo Neal/NMB.
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Yeah Neal's voice is so generic anyways I have no idea how much of his vocals are on my songs.
Bullshit rule (in my opinion) :heart
Can you get more generic that the screaming/growls in BTBAM and Opeth? Neal has a pretty unique voice in the prog world IMO.
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So part of it is I feel like Neal, when paired with MP*, falls into some of the same traps as DT did after Jordan joined the band. Everything has to be more extrem, more epic, longer, bigger, grander, etc. Neal's writing in SB just has more charm and a little more heart and soul to me.
*I love the early TA albums, but I think some of it started there. I will say Flying Colors is more restrained in general, and I do like those albums better than solo Neal/NMB.
I mean, that makes perfect sense, then. If you don't like that aspect of the JR DT albums (which I do like), then you wouldn't like it when NM does it, either.
Meanwhile Flying Colors does basically nothing for me. :lol
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Yeah Neal's voice is so generic anyways I have no idea how much of his vocals are on my songs.
Tru dat.
Just means lots more work for 425 to audit all our submissions. :P
I'm gonna be a bit obnoxious about this rule if it stays in place because if I have to follow it, I want everyone else to have to follow it, too.
Oh yeah totally, I'm 100% about fairness and if the rule stays then I'd feel much happier if someone who knows their stuff was able to enforce it on Tim's behalf! :lol
What we ideally need is a list of which songs are eligible. But I guess that wouldn't be any less work for you then checking the ones that actually get sent.
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The four Neal Morse Band albums would also qualify, but many of the songs do not satisfy the 75% Neal lead vocals rule and you'd have to check your submissions. (This applies to anyone sending NMB. Also, I volunteer to be a "checker" if anyone doesn't want to listen to the songs or doesn't know what Neal sounds like—note that it's possible to mix him up with one of the other lead singers.)
Are you sure you won't mix him up with some female singer? (I don't think there are any on NMB but I couldn't pass the opportunity)
Also I'm sure I didn't pull The Writing Writer out of my ass. :lol That must be one of the songs then.
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Yeah Neal's voice is so generic anyways I have no idea how much of his vocals are on my songs.
Bullshit rule (in my opinion) :heart
Can you get more generic that the screaming/growls in BTBAM and Opeth?
Neither is generic but I totally understand how they'd sound that way if you don't like that style.
However, those bands don't have any restrictions for their rounds, so the comparison is moot.
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The round is about Neal Morse. So Neal Morse should be the singer of any song sent. The Anneke songs slipped in because I didn’t realize they were even an option, so I thought I’d tighten up the NM round regarding vocals before I had to listen to MP sing.
Yeah but in his current band the other guys sing too. It's still his band and his music and he does most of the singing.
Dunno, probably just means you'll be closing off stuff that you're probably more likely to enjoy. :lol
Sure. But that’s like buying a Blue Oyster Cult album because I like Dont Fear The Reaper and then going WTF?
I think the 75% rule is fine. I don’t mind if he trades off some vocal lines.
Does Anneke song in any songs? If so, forget the 75% rule. ;D
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The four Neal Morse Band albums would also qualify, but many of the songs do not satisfy the 75% Neal lead vocals rule and you'd have to check your submissions. (This applies to anyone sending NMB. Also, I volunteer to be a "checker" if anyone doesn't want to listen to the songs or doesn't know what Neal sounds like—note that it's possible to mix him up with one of the other lead singers.)
Are you sure you won't mix him up with some female singer? (I don't think there are any on NMB but I couldn't pass the opportunity)
Also I'm sure I didn't pull The Writing Writer out of my ass. :lol That must be one of the songs then.
Speaking of that, who is Anneke? I thought Devin was singing everything. ;)
One of the songs is "Apollo I: The Writing Writer." The album is Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness.
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Yeah Neal's voice is so generic anyways I have no idea how much of his vocals are on my songs.
Bullshit rule (in my opinion) :heart
Can you get more generic that the screaming/growls in BTBAM and Opeth?
Neither is generic but I totally understand how they'd sound that way if you don't like that style.
However, those bands don't have any restrictions for their rounds, so the comparison is moot.
Ah, I kind of misinterpreted what Buddy was going on about. Still, I think Neal sounds pretty different from even the other people in NMB.
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The round is about Neal Morse. So Neal Morse should be the singer of any song sent. The Anneke songs slipped in because I didn’t realize they were even an option, so I thought I’d tighten up the NM round regarding vocals before I had to listen to MP sing.
Yeah but in his current band the other guys sing too. It's still his band and his music and he does most of the singing.
Dunno, probably just means you'll be closing off stuff that you're probably more likely to enjoy. :lol
Sure. But that’s like buying a Blue Oyster Cult album because I like Dont Fear The Reaper and then going WTF?
I think the 75% rule is fine. I don’t mind if he trades off some vocal lines.
Does Anneke song in any songs? If so, forget the 75% rule. ;D
Alright 425, you're up:
The Call
Bird On A Wire
If either of those get disqualified I'm dice rolling Neal's solo albums and not even listening to the songs that get chosen. :biggrin:
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One of the songs is "Apollo I: The Writing Writer." The album is Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness.
Don't worry, I won't remember this tomorrow. :lol
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Alright 425, you're up:
The Call
Bird On A Wire
If either of those get disqualified I'm dice rolling Neal's solo albums and not even listening to the songs that get chosen. :biggrin:
The Call is good. Almost every word is sung by Neal, some in harmony with others.
Bird on a Wire is not. Neal sings around 50% of the vocals: all the verses. Eric Gillette sings the choruses and Bill Hubauer sings the bridge.
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Alright 425, you're up:
The Call
Bird On A Wire
If either of those get disqualified I'm dice rolling Neal's solo albums and not even listening to the songs that get chosen. :biggrin:
The Call is good. Almost every word is sung by Neal, some in harmony with others.
Bird on a Wire is not. Neal sings around 50% of the vocals: all the verses. Eric Gillette sings the choruses and Bill Hubauer sings the bridge.
The Call and one RNG song it is!
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The round is about Neal Morse. So Neal Morse should be the singer of any song sent. The Anneke songs slipped in because I didn’t realize they were even an option, so I thought I’d tighten up the NM round regarding vocals before I had to listen to MP sing.
Yeah but in his current band the other guys sing too. It's still his band and his music and he does most of the singing.
Dunno, probably just means you'll be closing off stuff that you're probably more likely to enjoy. :lol
Sure. But that’s like buying a Blue Oyster Cult album because I like Dont Fear The Reaper and then going WTF?
But if you liked the Neal Morse Band songs where two other guys sing lead lines, and then bought a Neal Morse Band album, it would be along the lines you expected because those other singers would be all over those albums.
I think the 75% rule is fine. I don’t mind if he trades off some vocal lines.
I'd understand 50% in terms of ensuring Neal is the main singer, like you indicated for Devy (although you didn't enforce it). I just don't really get why 75%.
That said, I haven't actually chosen my songs yet and definitely have some NM solo and Spock's options.
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let's solve the neal morse problem by tossing the neal morse round and going with a different artist insteat :neverusethis:
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Tim won't know the difference in singers. Just don't rat each other out. :lol
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I mean, the only eligible stuff where the multiple singer thing is an issue is the NMB stuff. He has like 10 solo albums plus 6 from Spock's Beard where he sings all but two songs (both from Snow. And I guess there are some parts of One with Kerry Livgren singing). It can't be that hard to find something that only Neal sings to send!
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I should expand on my critique in saying that it's his voice that just doesn't get me, his music is solid, albeit predictable prog. I dunno.....it just isn't clicking. I remember reviewing Momentum favorably years ago, and revisited it to very little interest on my part. :huh:
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It can't be that hard to find something that only Neal sings to send!
That's not the problem; it's finding something GOOD where only Neal sings. :neverusethis:
Are there any non-instrumental Neal Morse (solo albums) songs where he doesn't sing?
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It can't be that hard to find something that only Neal sings to send!
That's not the problem; it's finding something GOOD where only Neal sings. :neverusethis:
Exactly the problem I was having yesterday :lol
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he does have a pretty awful voice, and the music he makes is pretty unremarkable and often very cheesy or corny in a way i can't enjoy, yeah. would be a bad idea to send to TAC, i think!
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I mean, the only eligible stuff where the multiple singer thing is an issue is the NMB stuff. He has like 10 solo albums plus 6 from Spock's Beard where he sings all but two songs (both from Snow. And I guess there are some parts of One with Kerry Livgren singing). It can't be that hard to find something that only Neal sings to send!
Yeah but the only Neal solo/NMB albums I particularly like are One, Grand Experiment and Innocence & Danger. :lol
Anyway I have some options I think, including a couple of Neal-era Spock's albums I like a lot as well.
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he does have a pretty awful voice, and the music he makes is pretty unremarkable and often very cheesy or corny in a way i can't enjoy, yeah. would be a bad idea to send to TAC, i think!
Neal's music is certainly very earnest, which I think some people respond to as "cheesy." His singing style is, too, for that matter.
In general, I think there's a type of person who is really drawn to a certain type of earnestness, and a type of person who is really repelled by it. I notice this in the way people disagree strongly about certain musicians, movies, TV shows, etc. I'm definitely unapologetically in the first camp.
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It can't be that hard to find something that only Neal sings to send!
That's not the problem; it's finding something GOOD where only Neal sings. :neverusethis:
Are there any non-instrumental Neal Morse (solo albums) songs where he doesn't sing?
The only one I can think of is Cradle to the Grave off of One, which I'm 100% sure you would not want to send. (it's Phil Keaggy, not Kerry Livgren on that one).
There's also Jesus Christ the Exorcist which has a bunch of guest vocalists.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure Cradle to the Grave is it if you just take the list of albums I gave on the last page (I deliberately omitted JCTE).
The instrumentals are Transformation, March of the Pharisees, and anything with "overture," "theme" or "intermezzo" in the title.
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So I just checked a couple of songs with 425 that I was pretty sure were basically 100% Neal, but it turned out one of them was literally 0% Neal and I couldn't even tell it was someone else singing. :lol
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I dare someone to send the Beard's Into Fire. The TACsponse to that would be incredible. :lol
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I dare someone to send the Beard's Into Fire. The TACsponse to that would be incredible. :lol
I volunteer as a tribute!
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I dare someone to send the Beard's Into Fire. The TACsponse to that would be incredible. :lol
I volunteer as a tribute!
Guaranteed round winner.
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I was trying to read through the gripping Neal Morse chatter at work, but I'm home now..
Gotta re-read it. Has anyone seen Stadler today?
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Every round must have at least 0.0588% Stadler or it will be disqualified.
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I'm gonna send out the bat signal...
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We need to end the divisiveness over Haken and Neal Morse opinions.
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We need to end the divisiveness over Haken and Neal Morse opinions.
Coheed Round coming up.. :lol
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We need to end the divisiveness over Haken and Neal Morse opinions.
Coheed Round coming up.. :lol
I dunno, I don't get the sense that anyone playing likes them very much. :lol
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We need to end the divisiveness over Haken and Neal Morse opinions.
Coheed Round coming up.. :lol
I dunno, I don't get the sense that anyone playing likes them very much. :lol
i'm nobody :metal
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We need to end the divisiveness over Haken and Neal Morse opinions.
Coheed Round coming up.. :lol
I dunno, I don't get the sense that anyone playing likes them very much. :lol
Of all the bands in this roulette, C&C and mastodon are the ones I know the most (both in top 5 bands for me).
I'm ready :yarr
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I stand somewhat corrected. :lol
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I stand somewhat corrected. :lol
Stop being so divisive! ;D
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We need to put an end to divisiveness by having everyone like the music I like and dislike the music I don't like.
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We need to put an end to divisiveness by having everyone like the music I like and dislike the music I don't like.
As a secret alternate account of WildRanger, I agree
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I'm gonna send out the bat signal...
(https://i.imgflip.com/5utp68.jpg)
Hopefully you lost the Power Windows version of this. :lol
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The round is about Neal Morse. So Neal Morse should be the singer of any song sent. The Anneke songs slipped in because I didn’t realize they were even an option, so I thought I’d tighten up the NM round regarding vocals before I had to listen to MP sing.
Yeah but in his current band the other guys sing too. It's still his band and his music and he does most of the singing.
Dunno, probably just means you'll be closing off stuff that you're probably more likely to enjoy. :lol
Sure. But that’s like buying a Blue Oyster Cult album because I like Dont Fear The Reaper and then going WTF?
But if you liked the Neal Morse Band songs where two other guys sing lead lines, and then bought a Neal Morse Band album, it would be along the lines you expected because those other singers would be all over those albums.
I think the 75% rule is fine. I don’t mind if he trades off some vocal lines.
I'd understand 50% in terms of ensuring Neal is the main singer, like you indicated for Devy (although you didn't enforce it). I just don't really get why 75%.
That said, I haven't actually chosen my songs yet and definitely have some NM solo and Spock's options.
Is 75% really all that restrictive? I'm asking because I don't know. If it's truly that restrictive, then 50% is fine. I mean, I don't want to make it too cumbersome.
Like if Neal sings the verses and someone else sings the chorus? I guess that'd be ok.
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Like if Neal sings the verses and someone else sings the chorus? I guess that'd be ok.
Thank you. :biggrin:
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And for the Coheed round, it's fine if Coheed sings the verses and Cambria sings the choruses.
I'm sorry..
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I wish Coheed and Cambria had two vocalists, maybe I'd like the other one more! :lol
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I really don't want to listen to any fucking Neal Morse. Someone tell me what to send.
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I really don't want to listen to any fucking Neal Morse. Someone tell me what to send.
Song 2 from album 2 and song 3 from album 6.
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I really don't want to listen to any fucking Neal Morse. Someone tell me what to send.
Song 2 from album 2 and song 3 from album 6.
Could be a trap.
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I'm merely repeating Ruslan's dice throw :lol
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I'm merely repeating Ruslan's dice throw :lol
Hmmmmmm......might be the play. :lol
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i genuinely don't have time to actually explore neal morse's discog atm so might just diceroll until i get two songs that seem sendable, yeah :lol
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I really don't want to listen to any fucking Neal Morse. Someone tell me what to send.
Song 2 from album 2 and song 3 from album 6.
Could be a trap.
:lol
What's the difference? It's all random to me anyway.
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I really don't want to listen to any fucking Neal Morse. Someone tell me what to send.
Song 2 from album 2 and song 3 from album 6.
Could be a trap.
:lol
What's the difference? It's all random to me anyway.
True, you're the one getting trapped. :lol
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Lot of bitching going on, but I'm the one that gets stuck listening to three fucking hours of Neal Morse for six days straight. :lol
I'm gonna need a reverse exorcism.
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Lot of bitching going on, but I'm the one that gets stuck listening to three fucking hours of Neal Morse for six days straight. :lol
I'm gonna need a reverse exorcism.
I don’t envy you. And I LIKE Neal Morse!
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Hey, send me music that I don't get.
Hey how dare you make me sit through this?
You asked for it biatch.
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I never said I didn't like it. :P
I've never really heard it.
I sampled something he did a couple of years ago and it was fairly nice. I've been very pleasantly surprised so far with the first three rounds.
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Snickers time. :lol
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Ask Chad, RJ, HEF & Mason, Nick how they all failed getting Neil singing with me when he ran up to me at Rosfest.
Everybody froze as I sang with him for 30 seconds. Lol
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So...only six people showed up to his show?
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So...only six people showed up to his show?
:neverusethis:
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:lol
About 1000 old farts sitting on our asses. :lol
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Lot of bitching going on, but I'm the one that gets stuck listening to three fucking hours of Neal Morse for six days straight. :lol
I'm gonna need a reverse exorcism.
I might send the shittiest two songs I can find just to make it more miserable for you.
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Lot of bitching going on, but I'm the one that gets stuck listening to three fucking hours of Neal Morse for six days straight. :lol
I'm gonna need a reverse exorcism.
I might send the shittiest two songs I can find just to make it more miserable for you.
You might just win the round!
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Lot of bitching going on, but I'm the one that gets stuck listening to three fucking hours of Neal Morse for six days straight. :lol
I'm gonna need a reverse exorcism.
I might send the shittiest two songs I can find just to make it more miserable for you.
You might just win the round!
This is true. :justjen
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Lot of bitching going on, but I'm the one that gets stuck listening to three fucking hours of Neal Morse for six days straight. :lol
I'm gonna need a reverse exorcism.
I might send the shittiest two songs I can find just to make it more miserable for you.
You might just win the round!
This is true. :justjen
Of course, you might want to ask Lonestar how sending the two shittiest songs each round is working out for him.. :lol
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I did hear from Stadler and he'll send tomorrow. But he sent this along...
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I did hear from Stadler and he'll send tomorrow. But he sent this along...
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Fifty million feet of earth actually.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/qMcJsKmM/Zombo-Meme-19112021224249.jpg) (https://postimages.org/) (https://thesawmillgrill.com/)
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:lol
He actually has a legit reason, but we can still call him Stacul. ;D
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(https://i.imgur.com/y7Jwhsd.jpg)
OMG, if this is Neal playing “The Devil”. :rollin
So glad I got my submissions in early, btw. Are we in the beginning of the BTBAM round now? I’ve been stuck at home with COVID since Tuesday, and I tell you what, I was a little unsure if I was going to be Britain or France in the spring of 1940 for a hot minute there. Thankfully, I’ve been able to avoid the hospital and, while I’m not out of the woods yet, I can see the clearing.
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I did hear from Stadler and he'll send tomorrow. But he sent this along...
(https://i.imgflip.com/5uv993.jpg)
Fifty million feet of earth actually.
There it is! :metal
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I really don't want to listen to any fucking Neal Morse. Someone tell me what to send.
I'll tell you want to send if you tell me what to send for Mastodon.
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I really don't want to listen to any fucking Neal Morse. Someone tell me what to send.
I'll tell you want to send if you tell me what to send for Mastodon.
There's a very good chance I'll drag you down with me though.
Deal. I'll tell you what I'm sending for the Mastodon round.
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Lot of bitching going on, but I'm the one that gets stuck listening to three fucking hours of Neal Morse for six days straight. :lol
I think I was pretty clear that my comments were intended precisely to help you, by making it easier for people to pick songs they think you'll like. :lol
I've got three songs I'm happy to send that are all Neal, so I'm fine either way. :P
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I used the term “bitching” affectionately. ;D
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We all do. Like 'Tim is a bitch.' See all love. ;D
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Can’t say this has ever worked with The Lovely Mrs TAC. :lol
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:rollin
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Can’t say this has ever worked with The Lovely Mrs TAC. :lol
Balls for even attempting! :lol
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So glad I got my submissions in early, btw. Are we in the beginning of the BTBAM round now? I’ve been stuck at home with COVID since Tuesday, and I tell you what, I was a little unsure if I was going to be Britain or France in the spring of 1940 for a hot minute there. Thankfully, I’ve been able to avoid the hospital and, while I’m not out of the woods yet, I can see the clearing.
Yikes! Glad you’re on the upswing and avoided the hospital.
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I did hear from Stadler and he'll send tomorrow. But he sent this along...
(https://i.imgflip.com/5uv993.jpg)
Fifty million feet of earth actually.
There it is! :metal
:biggrin:
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So glad I got my submissions in early, btw. Are we in the beginning of the BTBAM round now? I’ve been stuck at home with COVID since Tuesday, and I tell you what, I was a little unsure if I was going to be Britain or France in the spring of 1940 for a hot minute there. Thankfully, I’ve been able to avoid the hospital and, while I’m not out of the woods yet, I can see the clearing.
Yikes! Glad you’re on the upswing and avoided the hospital.
Thanks! I think the hardest part is the quarantine. It sucks being able to only talk to my family via FaceTime.
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We all do. Like 'Tim is a bitch.' See all love. ;D
On my way home from work today, I got behind a car that had a bumper sticker that read "You say BITCH like it's a bad thing" and it made me think of this thread.
So glad I got my submissions in early, btw. Are we in the beginning of the BTBAM round now? I’ve been stuck at home with COVID since Tuesday, and I tell you what, I was a little unsure if I was going to be Britain or France in the spring of 1940 for a hot minute there. Thankfully, I’ve been able to avoid the hospital and, while I’m not out of the woods yet, I can see the clearing.
Holy shit Aaron, I missed this this morning. Glad you're at least feeling better.
Did you get vaccinated? Er..you can keep that private if you wish, but I was just wondering if it was a breakthrough case or not.
And yes, the BTBAM round has started.
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OK...so a weekend update.
Right now, the playlist is 20 songs @2h53m.
Stadler had something very important come up over the last couple of days. He texted me yesterday so I'll get his songs when I get them. Hopefully that will be tomorrow, and then I can post stats and First Impressions.
I was doing a BTBAM deep dive and I was up to TGM when the new DT came out. I'll be honest. I was struggling through it. So I figured I'd have a BTBAM round so I wouldn't have to finish. :lol
I can get through harsh vocals, but BTBAM's harsh vocals are fucking painful to listen to. I can't find anything pleasurable about them.
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you seem to be okay with death metal growls and indifferent to black metal rasps but metalcore vocals are like, different from that and i'll freely admit they're one of my least favorites too, a lot of the time they just sound like heavy static to me
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We all do. Like 'Tim is a bitch.' See all love. ;D
On my way home from work today, I got behind a car that had a bumper sticker that read "You say BITCH like it's a bad thing" and it made me think of this thread.
So glad I got my submissions in early, btw. Are we in the beginning of the BTBAM round now? I’ve been stuck at home with COVID since Tuesday, and I tell you what, I was a little unsure if I was going to be Britain or France in the spring of 1940 for a hot minute there. Thankfully, I’ve been able to avoid the hospital and, while I’m not out of the woods yet, I can see the clearing.
Holy shit Aaron, I missed this this morning. Glad you're at least feeling better.
Did you get vaccinated? Er..you can keep that private if you wish, but I was just wondering if it was a breakthrough case or not.
And yes, the BTBAM round has started.
Yep. Fully vaccinated plus I had gotten the booster on Saturday. Definitely a breakthrough case.
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Wow..scary. Any idea where you caught it?
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you seem to be okay with death metal growls and indifferent to black metal rasps but metalcore vocals are like, different from that and i'll freely admit they're one of my least favorites too, a lot of the time they just sound like heavy static to me
It's hard to quantify what harsh vocals I like, but I suppose it's the same for clean vocals right?
Unfortunately, the harsh vocals in BTBAM are not usually backed up with anything really musical. It's usually on top of..harsh music.
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I'm hearing a lot of Michael Schenker in these tunes. Has their guitarist cited him as an influence?
5:14 of Bad Habits could've come right off of Assault Attack.
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I'm hearing a lot of Michael Schenker in these tunes. Has their guitarist cited him as an influence?
5:14 of Bad Habits could've come right off of Assault Attack.
Now I'm going to have to go back and listen to Bad Habits and listen for the similarities...
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I'm hearing a lot of Michael Schenker in these tunes. Has their guitarist cited him as an influence?
5:14 of Bad Habits could've come right off of Assault Attack.
Now I'm going to have to go back and listen to Bad Habits and listen for the similarities...
I've heard it in a number of songs. I posted that before Bad Habits came on, and that part really jumped out at me.
In fact, my First Impression of another song mentions Schenker.
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It wouldn't surprise me if Paul and Dustie were influenced by Michael Schenker. The bands influences are diverse and massive.
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I'm starting to think I should have sent The Future is Behind Us... :corn
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I'm starting to think I should have sent The Future is Behind Us... :corn
The deadline for submissions is behind us. :corn
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Wow..scary. Any idea where you caught it?
Not sure, so I’ll just say, “trying to find a Neal Morse submission.” ;D
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Wow..scary. Any idea where you caught it?
Not sure, so I’ll just say, “trying to find a Neal Morse submission.” ;D
A risky venture, I'm sure. :lol
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Well, I found my BTBAM submissions on YouTube and checked them out. Sadly, I don't think I would grade them too highly if they were sent to me. Oh well. Already shaking up the remaining rounds since I'm pretty sure this will be my worst round yet.
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The Future Is Behind Us kinda sucks tbh.
I was considering sending Bad Habits. That song growed on me like hell and now it's my favorite from Colors II.
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So.. what songs were sent? :)
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@J-Boy!!!!
Stadler is unavailable for this round and he has specifically requested that YOU pick his songs for this round.
Pick two songs from 2012 on.
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Chad, I can roll the dice for you if needed. :lol
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I can give some really good suggestions if you need :neverusethis:
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@J-Boy!!!!
Stadler is unavailable for this round and he has specifically requested that YOU pick his songs for this round.
Pick two songs from 2012 on.
...or, send nothing. Stads might get the best score this round with a submission of nothing.
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@J-Boy!!!!
Stadler is unavailable for this round and he has specifically requested that YOU pick his songs for this round.
Pick two songs from 2012 on.
Oh dear lord. I think I’ve heard one BTBAM song in my life, likely because someone submitted it to me in a roulette .... and I’m pretty sure it scored badly.
This is gonna be random af, but I’ll find a method other than dice rolling.
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@J-Boy!!!!
Stadler is unavailable for this round and he has specifically requested that YOU pick his songs for this round.
Pick two songs from 2012 on.
Oh dear lord. I think I’ve heard one BTBAM song in my life, likely because someone submitted it to me in a roulette .... and I’m pretty sure it scored badly.
This is gonna be random af, but I’ll find a method other than dice rolling.
Actually, I submitted it, and it scored fairly well.
Here's your write up...
"While I'm quite certain this band would NEVER click with me, you picked a pretty enjoyable tune - that got better as the week went on. As a melancholic ballad, it wasn’t anything that absolutely wow'd me, but it certainly wasn't cringe-worthy like I'd been expecting"
And then I fucked everything up and sent you Babymetal.
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@J-Boy!!!!
Stadler is unavailable for this round and he has specifically requested that YOU pick his songs for this round.
Pick two songs from 2012 on.
Oh dear lord. I think I’ve heard one BTBAM song in my life, likely because someone submitted it to me in a roulette .... and I’m pretty sure it scored badly.
This is gonna be random af, but I’ll find a method other than dice rolling.
Actually, I submitted it, and it scored fairly well.
Yeah, I just pulled out my ratings file, and you gave me Desert of Song in my 4th roulette. It rated right in the middle of the pack.
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Stadler has submitted.
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Stadler has submitted.
Woohoo! Let the games begin! :metal
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:dangerwillrobinson:
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The bad news... I have Stadler's songs via Dr. Cha.
The good news...both repeats!! Yay..no more songs.
Stats and First Impressions up later. Just got home from work..
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The bad news... I have Stadler's songs via Dr. Cha.
The good news...both repeats!! Yay..no more songs.
Stats and First Impressions up later. Just got home from work..
Working on a Sunday......that's the real bad news
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The bad news... I have Stadler's songs via Dr. Cha.
The good news...both repeats!! Yay..no more songs.
Stats and First Impressions up later. Just got home from work..
Working on a Sunday......that's the real bad news
Time and a half to do something extremely easy. Good news!!
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The bad news... I have Stadler's songs via Dr. Cha.
The good news...both repeats!! Yay..no more songs.
Stats and First Impressions up later. Just got home from work..
Working on a Sunday......that's the real bad news
Time and a half to do something extremely easy. Good news!!
Touché
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The good news...both repeats!! Yay..no more songs.
Unsurprising, since there was only like 50 songs to work with.
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Stats!
20 songs @ 2h53m
Although I heard recently that there was only like 50 songs to work with
Album breakdown
Colors II...5 songs
Paralax II...4
Automata I...3
Automata II...2
Coma Eliptic...4
Paralax I...2
The most sent song was:
Astral Body..4 times
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I did not send Astral Body :)
Let’s guess some songs that were sent:
Specular Reflection
Augment of Rebirth
Astral Body
Lay Your Ghosts to Rest
Telos
Silent Flight Parliament
The Coma Machine
King Redeem / Queen Serene
The Ectopic Stroll
Memory Palace
Condemned to the Gallows
Yellow Eyes
Blot
Voice of Trespass
The Grid
And 5 songs from Colors II
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Astral Body was never on the shortlist for me.
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Here are the songs..
Astral Body
Lay Your Ghosts To Rest
Voice Of Trespass
Memory Palace
Fix The Error
Condemned To The Gallows
The Coma Machine
Revolution In Limbo
Blot
Millions
Monochrome
Never Seen/Future Shock
Silent Flight Parliament
Bad Habits
The Proverbial Bellow
Turn On The Darkness
King Redeem/Queen Serene
Specular Reflection
Lunar Wilderness
Extremophile Elite
Here is the playlist..
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7KWeepvy2A3yeyiGgEZmmF?si=4d055c8edea24067
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FIRST Impressions..
I'll leave these open for a bit if anyone wants to guess, but since half of the participants don't even know their own songs, I'll solve it before I go to bed tonight.
It's really hard to make different first impressions when every song is Fast heavy part-harsh vocals-slow part-clean vocals-harsh-clean-heavy part-ending.
The harsh vocal sections in this song are awful.
I love the large amount of clean vocals in this song.
This song is fucked up, which I know could also be said for any other track in the playlist.
One of the leaders in the clubhouse.
Starts out pleasant and goes downhill from there.
A short song with clean vocals. Doesn’t go anywhere though.
Interesting song that I can’t even link to the early BTBAM that I have heard.
Really nice song with bits that don’t hit you over the head.
The cleans in this were excellent. Fantastic ending.
I couldn’t wait for this to end. That is, until I got to the ending.
Well, that was extremely musical.
Musically this is amazing.
I hear a lot of Dream Theater in this.
This goes from Megadeth to Moby Dick to Helloween..and that’s just the first three minutes.
That was a lot to chew on.
I have no idea what I just heard.
This reminds me of Riot’s Privilege Of Power and then goes all Hot For Teacher
I liked this. I couldn’t tell you what I just heard, but I liked it.
Has some older elements to it.
The part right before the actual ending is Schenkeriffic!
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Wow, I have no idea based on those impressions. Cool playlist :tup (I wasn't too far off!)
You missed Astral Body and Lay Your Ghosts to Rest in the songs sent list :)
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Really nice song with bits that don’t hit you over the head.
I hear a lot of Dream Theater in this.
These two were generally what I thought when listening to my entries, so I’m guessing these.
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I'm intrigued to find out which songs reminds you of POP.
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I'm intrigued to find out which songs reminds you of POP.
I'm wondering if it's Voice of Trespass
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Wow, I have no idea based on those impressions. Cool playlist :tup (I wasn't too far off!)
You missed Astral Body and Lay Your Ghosts to Rest in the songs sent list :)
Fixed!
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Lay Your Ghosts To Rest
Memory Palace
Fix The Error
Condemned To The Gallows
The Coma Machine
Revolution In Limbo
Monochrome
Never Seen/Future Shock
Silent Flight Parliament
Bad Habits
The Proverbial Bellow
Turn On The Darkness
King Redeem/Queen Serene
Specular Reflection
Lunar Wilderness
Extremophile Elite
The harsh vocal sections in this song are awful.
I love the large amount of clean vocals in this song.
This song is fucked up, which I know could also be said for any other track in the playlist.
One of the leaders in the clubhouse.
Starts out pleasant and goes downhill from there.
A short song with clean vocals. Doesn’t go anywhere though.[Millions]
Interesting song that I can’t even link to the early BTBAM that I have heard.
Really nice song with bits that don’t hit you over the head.
The cleans in this were excellent. Fantastic ending.
I couldn’t wait for this to end. That is, until I got to the ending.
Well, that was extremely musical.
Musically this is amazing.
I hear a lot of Dream Theater in this.
This goes from Megadeth to Moby Dick to Helloween..and that’s just the first three minutes.
That was a lot to chew on.[Blot]
I have no idea what I just heard.
This reminds me of Riot’s Privilege Of Power and then goes all Hot For Teacher[Voice Of Trespass]
I liked this. I couldn’t tell you what I just heard, but I liked it.
Has some older elements to it.[Astral Body]
The part right before the actual ending is Schenkeriffic!
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I'm intrigued to find out which songs reminds you of POP.
I'm wondering if it's Voice of Trespass
YES!
Really nice song with bits that don’t hit you over the head.
I hear a lot of Dream Theater in this.
These two were generally what I thought when listening to my entries, so I’m guessing these.
No..
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Yeah, I can see that.
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Just in the beginning with the horns. It hit me right away. Then it's basically Hot For Teacher after that.
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Yeah fair play mate.
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Really nice song with bits that don’t hit you over the head.
I hear a lot of Dream Theater in this.
These two were generally what I thought when listening to my entries, so I’m guessing these.
No..
Hmmm. Well, I’d probably have to actually listen to them again to really figure this out.
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You've basically heard their entire discography at this point. :lol
Which songs were only sent once?
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Kingshmegland
The Coma Machine
Never Seen/Future Shock
HOF
Fix The Error
Bad Habits
Cyril
Specular Reflection
Blot
Romdrums
Specular Reflection
Turn On The Darkness
LudwigVan
Astral Body
Condemned To the Gallows
Lonestar
King Redeem/Queen Serene
Voice Of Trespass
Puppies
The Proverbial Bellow
Bad Habits
Professor
Monochrome
Millions
425
Lunar Wilderness
Lay Your Ghosts To Rest
Kwyjibo
The Coma Machine
Condemned To The Gallows
Wolfking
Specular Reflection
Lunar Wilderness
Ariich
Lay Your Ghosts To Rest
Silent Flight Parliament
Evermind
Astral Body
Revolution In Limbo
Vmadera
Extremophile Elite
Fix The Error
Elite
Lay Your Ghosts To Rest
Voice Of Trespass
Buddy
Astral Body
Memory Palace
Stadler
Astral Body
Condemned To The Gallows
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Spectacular Reflection :lol
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Spectacular Reflection :lol
:rollin :rollin
:facepalm:
People should not get their hopes up with that slip. ;D
My working Word document is a hot mess. :lol
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Not sure how Stadler.boy ended up sending the gem that is Condemned to the Gallows, I was real close myself but only wanted to send one track from Automata and that had to be Voice of Trespass.
So Chadler, who did you get to pick two BTBAM tracks for you?
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Not sure how Stadler.boy ended up sending the gem that is Condemned to the Gallows, I was real close myself but only wanted to send one track from Automata and that had to be Voice of Trespass.
So Chadler, who did you get to pick two BTBAM tracks for you?
This is how..
The 30th most listened to BTBAM song on last.fm is Astral Body (because Bill has 30k+ posts) -
The other song that screams "Stadler" to me is Condemned to the Gallows, as sometimes I would want to hang myself after reading a Stadler post
:lol
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:rollin
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Spectacular Reflection :lol
:rollin :rollin
:facepalm:
People should not get their hopes up with that slip. ;D
i suspect you will hate the first few minutes of the song but then be relatively okay with the rest and willing to bank on those first few minutes not being enough to tank the score :corn
i probably would've sent something from colors II instead if i were submitting right now tho, but i hadn't got my CD copy yet and only started really spinning it the last week or so
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To be fair, I pretty much hate the first few minutes of every song. :lol
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Neal Morse is going to be sweet relief after this round.
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i think i'd have a hard time guessing any of the impressions this time around because a whole lot of later era BTBAM really blends together in my mind with very few songs i actually remember a year down the line
blot is like, the one song from their 2010's output i find notably memorable and it's also much less heavy and more melodic than usual so i'd hooooope it does well, but, who knows :corn
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A short song with clean vocals. Doesn’t go anywhere though.
I think this is one of mine as I had a similar thought the first time I actually heard it. Don't remember which one as I struggle to remember the names of them. They are the 'M' songs is about all I remember.
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Damn, Stadler got some pretty good songs there :lol
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A short song with clean vocals. Doesn’t go anywhere though.
I think this is one of mine as I had a similar thought the first time I actually heard it. Don't remember which one as I struggle to remember the names of them. They are the 'M' songs is about all I remember.
oh yeah that's probably Millions
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A short song with clean vocals. Doesn’t go anywhere though.
I think this is one of mine as I had a similar thought the first time I actually heard it. Don't remember which one as I struggle to remember the names of them. They are the 'M' songs is about all I remember.
Yes..Millions
blot is like, the one song from their 2010's output i find notably memorable and it's also much less heavy and more melodic than usual so i'd hooooope it does well, but, who knows :corn
I gave it to you..
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Spectacular Reflection :lol
:rollin :rollin
:facepalm:
People should not get their hopes up with that slip. ;D
i suspect you will hate the first few minutes of the song but then be relatively okay with the rest and willing to bank on those first few minutes not being enough to tank the score :corn
i probably would've sent something from colors II instead if i were submitting right now tho, but i hadn't got my CD copy yet and only started really spinning it the last week or so
What Re you talking about, the first few minutes us the best part of the song.
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Tim, you ok? :lol
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Spectacular Reflection :lol
:rollin :rollin
:facepalm:
People should not get their hopes up with that slip. ;D
i suspect you will hate the first few minutes of the song but then be relatively okay with the rest and willing to bank on those first few minutes not being enough to tank the score :corn
i probably would've sent something from colors II instead if i were submitting right now tho, but i hadn't got my CD copy yet and only started really spinning it the last week or so
What Re you talking about, the first few minutes us the best part of the song.
yeah but TAC hates The Heavy Stuff™ from BTBAM
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I think its a safe bet that BTBAM isn't a band he's going to become a fan of.
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I take it as a modestly good sign that one of my songs was also an ariich submission.
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I take it as a modestly good sign that one of my songs was also an ariich submission.
like that's gonna help you :neverusethis:
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I'm hoping one Rich can drag me up more than the other drags me down.
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Tim, you ok? :lol
I'm specular!
I take it as a modestly good sign that one of my songs was also an ariich submission.
like that's gonna help you :neverusethis:
You might want to think about it yourself. ;D
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(https://i.postimg.cc/9F457mdQ/20211121192950.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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:rollin
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I was way off on my first impression to Astral Body. I don't know what I was thinking.
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Not sure how Stadler.boy ended up sending the gem that is Condemned to the Gallows, I was real close myself but only wanted to send one track from Automata and that had to be Voice of Trespass.
So Chadler, who did you get to pick two BTBAM tracks for you?
This is how..
The 30th most listened to BTBAM song on last.fm is Astral Body (because Bill has 30k+ posts) -
The other song that screams "Stadler" to me is Condemned to the Gallows, as sometimes I would want to hang myself after reading a Stadler post
:lol
I went through BTBAM hell to pick those two songs! Meanwhile Chad rolls a d12 for Stads. :lol
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Oh right..you guys have the same two songs. :lol
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(https://i.postimg.cc/9F457mdQ/20211121192950.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Outstanding!
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Not sure how Stadler.boy ended up sending the gem that is Condemned to the Gallows, I was real close myself but only wanted to send one track from Automata and that had to be Voice of Trespass.
So Chadler, who did you get to pick two BTBAM tracks for you?
This is how..
The 30th most listened to BTBAM song on last.fm is Astral Body (because Bill has 30k+ posts) -
The other song that screams "Stadler" to me is Condemned to the Gallows, as sometimes I would want to hang myself after reading a Stadler post
:lol
I went through BTBAM hell to pick those two songs! Meanwhile Chad rolls a d12 for Stads. :lol
I love both Tim and Bill, but I wasn’t about to go thru BTBAM hell for either of them.
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Someone should have sent their cover of The Dear Hunter's "The Tank".
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First Impressions....solved.
I love the large amount of clean vocals in this song. [The Proverbial Bellow]
This song is fucked up, which I know could also be said for any other track in the playlist.[King Redeem/Queen Serene]
One of the leaders in the clubhouse.[Bad Habits]
Starts out pleasant and goes downhill from there.[Monochrome]
A short song with clean vocals. Doesn’t go anywhere though.[Millions]
Interesting song that I can’t even link to the early BTBAM that I have heard.[The Coma Machine]
Really nice song with bits that don’t hit you over the head.[Condemned To The Gallows]
The cleans in this were excellent. Fantastic ending.[Specular Reflection]
I couldn’t wait for this to end. That is, until I got to the ending.
[Lunar Wilderness]
Well, that was extremely musical.[Silent Flight Parliament]
Has some older elements to it.[Astral Body]
Musically this is amazing.[Revolution In Limbo]
I hear a lot of Dream Theater in this.[Extremophile Elite]
This goes from Megadeth to Moby Dick to Helloween..and that’s just the first three minutes.[Fix The Error]
That was a lot to chew on.[Blot]
I have no idea what I just heard.[Lay Your Ghosts To Rest]
This reminds me of Riot’s Privilege Of Power and then goes all Hot For Teacher[Voice Of Trespass]
I liked this. I couldn’t tell you what I just heard, but I liked it.[Turn On The Darkness]
The harsh vocal sections in this song are awful.[Never Seen/Future Shock]
The part right before the actual ending is Schenkeriffic![Memory Palace]
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Alright! It's a race against me for last place in this round!
This is like golf, right? Lowest score wins?
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Yeah, Prof...you're gonna have a tough round.. and I hate golf. :lol
Neal Morse is going to be sweet relief after this round.
I set it up that way purposely.
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Now I need to find 60+ minutes of Neal to send. Shouldn't be too hard. :biggrin:
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You missing one of my songs?
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Well that's kind of promising...I think lol
Tim, if you get a chance, watch the video for Fix the Error. I honestly think it adds to the song, plus there's a MP cameo in the video.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2q93v_nHmSM
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You missing one of my songs?
Fixed. I was trying to forget it, honestly. :lol
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:lol
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Tim, if you get a chance, watch the video for Fix the Error. I honestly think it adds to the song, plus there's a MP cameo in the video.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2q93v_nHmSM
Hah! That video is awesome! :lol
Are the guest drummers on the record, or are they just playing the parts in the video?
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Tim, if you get a chance, watch the video for Fix the Error. I honestly think it adds to the song, plus there's a MP cameo in the video.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2q93v_nHmSM
Hah! That video is awesome! :lol
Are the guest drummers on the record, or are they just playing the parts in the video?
The guest drummers actually played those parts on the record.
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That's cool. Who are the other guys? Are they in this roulette too? :D
That part is awesome!
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So it is MP, Navene Koperweis, Ken Schalk and Blake Richardson.
I only know Navene from Animals as Leaders. Never heard of ken. Blake is the drummer for BTTBAM.
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Me listening to Neal Morse trying to find songs to send...
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Well, that was extremely musical.[Silent Flight Parliament]
I have no idea what I just heard.[Lay Your Ghosts To Rest]
One of these is more encouraging than the other! :lol
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Truth be told, I had no idea what I heard when I first listened to Lay Your Ghosts to Rest
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Truth be told, I had no idea what I heard when I first listened to Lay Your Ghosts to Rest
I dunno, I don't think it's any crazier than basically all their other songs. :lol
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Truth be told, I had no idea what I heard when I first listened to Lay Your Ghosts to Rest
I dunno, I don't think it's any crazier than basically all their other songs. :lol
It’s tough to cold- listen to 20 BTBAM songs in a row. My ears were glazing over at points. The harsh vocals are so bad it was at times tough to differentiate the music underneath. Subsequent listens have helped clear it up though. It was the same way with a bunch of the Haken tunes.
Well, that was extremely musical.[Silent Flight Parliament]
I have no idea what I just heard.[Lay Your Ghosts To Rest]
One of these is more encouraging than the other! :lol
Well, they’re not getting the same score, so…yes. ;D
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Truth be told, I had no idea what I heard when I first listened to Lay Your Ghosts to Rest
I dunno, I don't think it's any crazier than basically all their other songs. :lol
Well, Parallax came out in a time that I wasn't really that interested in yet another BTBAM album, because they're so dense and I was looking for other stuff in music back then I guess. I remember that specifically during Lay Your Ghosts to Rest that I just zoned out and turned it off. I couldn't handle it at that point, despite loving Colors for example. That first experience with Parallax led me to not listening to it in full until years later. Coma Ecliptic did the same, but I did finish that one. The Automata albums pulled me back in to BTBAM and it was that year that I actually finished Parallax II for the first time :lol
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parallax II was the first BTBAM album where i felt like they kinda lost the plot a little and put emphasis on being overly complicated and progressive over actually writing compelling songs
this has kinda been the story of their albums since then really but i've liked automata and colors II more than parallax II and coma at the very least
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Parallax II is definitely my favorite of the post-TGM albums, but it certainly doesn't reach the heights of the two albums that came before it.
The Automatas are their lowest point since then, imo. Automata I was fine but very un-impactful and Automata II barely even feels like an album. Voice Of Trespass is just Bad Devil but worse (let's see if Tim disagrees :lol) and The Grid sucks as a closer.
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parallax II was the first BTBAM album where i felt like they kinda lost the plot a little and put emphasis on being overly complicated and progressive over actually writing compelling songs
this has kinda been the story of their albums since then really but i've liked automata and colors II more than parallax II and coma at the very least
See, I’m the exact opposite. Parallax is where I think they finally figured out how to make all the wankery compelling, and able to serve a purpose rather than being there for its own sake. Coma Ecliptic is an even further refinement of that idea. With Automata and now Colors II, I think they’re just tweaking the formula.
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parallax II was the first BTBAM album where i felt like they kinda lost the plot a little and put emphasis on being overly complicated and progressive over actually writing compelling songs
this has kinda been the story of their albums since then really but i've liked automata and colors II more than parallax II and coma at the very least
See, I’m the exact opposite. Parallax is where I think they finally figured out how to make all the wankery compelling, and able to serve a purpose rather than being there for its own sake.
Yes, this exactly. Parallax II is ridiculously great.
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Maybe I'm alone in that but I was underwhelmed by it :lol
Even moreso underwhelmed by Coma though, which I have just never found very interesting or memorable
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Interesting to read through the discussion. :tup
I'm like 3 listens through the songs. Gonna start roughing out some writeups this afternoon. If I am efficient, I'm shooting for results before the Thanksgiving.
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is that this weekend?
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it is in three days
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is that this weekend?
This coming Thursday.
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it is in three days
brace yourselves
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I know something I will not be thankful for.
The BTBAM results.
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I know something I will not be thankful for.
The BTBAM results.
But they'll home hand-in-hand with the Neal Morse round!
...which I'll be even less thankful for! :lol
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I've enjoyed everything pst Colors for the most part, although I couldn't get into Automata at all, that just is missing something for me.
Coma Ecliptic was a huge grower and I love it now. Parallax is amazing and probably my second favourite after Colors.
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Got 7 writeups done this afternoon!
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Got 7 writeups done this afternoon!
You really want this round to be over! :biggrin:
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:lol
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Got 7 writeups done this afternoon!
You really want this round to be over! :biggrin:
:neverusethis:
Well, I scratched out 16 of the 20 writeups. I have 4 songs left, but it's almost 45 minutes of music, and I don't have that in me tonight. So we're on pace for Wednesday for sure.
These songs take a bit to break down. Kind of tough in a roulette round, but I really enjoyed pretty much most of what I heard today. It was kind of the same with Haken when I was doing writeups. It was like the clouds started to part a bit.
Hey, speaking of Haken, it seems their keyboardist left the band after my roulette round. Good. He was easily my least favorite part of their sound. Nothing against keyboardists...of course. ;D
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Hey, speaking of Haken, it seems their keyboardist left the band after my roulette round. Good. He was easily my least favorite part of their sound. Nothing against keyboardists...of course. ;D
You mean Diego? Nah, he left last year.
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Neal Morse is going to be sweet relief after this round.
After BTBAM, it'll be like diving into a cloying vat of maple syrup.
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Hey, speaking of Haken, it seems their keyboardist left the band after my roulette round. Good. He was easily my least favorite part of their sound. Nothing against keyboardists...of course. ;D
You mean Diego? Nah, he left last year.
Oh. Seemed like fresh news in the Haken thread.
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Legalities took a year it seemed. But most knew he already left.
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Oh ok. WTF would take so long?
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Honestly don't know why.
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Honestly don't know why.
I thought you followed Twitter.
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Right but they never came out and said he was gone until yesterday but you saw in socal media that he separated himself not posting about the band.
Add that he wasn't prominent on their last album. Rich, hinted it was legal which made sense.
We just had to piece it together.
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I'm hearing a lot of Michael Schenker in these tunes. Has their guitarist cited him as an influence?
5:14 of Bad Habits could've come right off of Assault Attack.
Now I'm going to have to go back and listen to Bad Habits and listen for the similarities...
I've heard it in a number of songs. I posted that before Bad Habits came on, and that part really jumped out at me.
In fact, my First Impression of another song mentions Schenker.
I hear it. Enjoyed it too. The harsh vocals I could do without but they aren't the worst I've heard. At least I didn't turn it off!
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Lowdz! Good to see you in here!
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Well....
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I made it. Writeups are complete. I have to say, that was a chore to get through. Especially trying to finish it off today, even though the last four songs, for the most part, are some of the better tracks.
After I clean my ears, I'm going to spend the rest of the day dropping the needle verify my rankings and ultimately assigning scores.
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Lowdz! Good to see you in here!
I’d forgotten all about it bro. Did I miss anything? 😁😁
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Lowdz! Good to see you in here!
I’d forgotten all about it bro. Did I miss anything? 😁😁
Certainly not this round.
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I'm actually looking forward to the next round. It's not Tim's lane so it will be interesting.
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I'm kind of looking forward to it too, honestly.
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This is non metal so what will you like about what is sent. That will give some insight to you.
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Tim, a little clarification on the Neal Morse round. Only him singing or he sings the majority?
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Tim, a little clarification on the Neal Morse round. Only him singing or he sings the majority?
So, I have been basically chastised talked down to 50%. ;D
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Got it. Really it will be better. He shares a good amount of vocals.
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I'm just gonna roll dice anyways what does it matter to me
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Did you ever check out Cockroach King? Or did I miss the reaction to that?
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Did you ever check out Cockroach King? Or did I miss the reaction to that?
Yes...you missed it. ;D
I really think before the btbam we all need to get a first impression of Cockroach King.
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Okay I just spent a few minutes looking. I take it you're not a fan.
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So...
Album rankings by scores..
Automata II
Paralax I
Coma Eliptica
Colors II
Paralax II
Automata I
We have a new person in first place and a new person in last place.
Results 2:30 PM Boston time tomorrow.
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Okay I just spent a few minutes looking. I take it you're not a fan.
So the Steam Powered Giraffes were sent to me in my second roulette. The song was a vocal masterpiece. I think it actually did OK. It was the first thing I thought of.
Am I a fan? I only listened once, and I thought it was kind of cool. I have a great Haken playlist from this roulette, and I will definitely give their albums a run through when this is over.
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Gonna get to the bottom of this roulette!
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Gonna get to the bottom of this roulette!
If that is your goal, you're gonna be disappointed with your score for this round.
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I'm gonna take Automata I being so low as a side-effect of Millions just being kinda meh more than anything :P
expecting to stay right at the center of the pack so as to not be notable in any way
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Your position has been noted.
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Gonna get to the bottom of this roulette!
If that is your goal, you're gonna be disappointed with your score for this round.
It would only be fitting if my best score of the roulette comes in this round.
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Gonna get to the bottom of this roulette!
If that is your goal, you're gonna be disappointed with your score for this round.
It would only be fitting if my best score of the roulette comes in this round.
That would indeed be funny. :lol
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So...
Album rankings by scores..
Automata II
Paralax I
Coma Eliptica
Colors II
Automata I
No Parallax II? :lol
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So...
Album rankings by scores..
Automata II
Paralax I
Coma Eliptica
Colors II
Parallax II
Automata I
No Parallax II? :lol
FIXED! My brain is FRIED!
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the music was too specular for you
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The music has put him into a Coma Eliptica
Sent for Rounds 4 and 5, btw.
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We have a new person in first place and a new person in last place.
Results 2:30 PM Boston time tomorrow.
Yay me!
(Last place, that is)
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We have a new person in first place and a new person in last place.
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So...
Album rankings by scores..
Automata II
Paralax I
Coma Eliptica
Colors II
Paralax II
Automata I
We have a new person in first place and a new person in last place.
Results 2:30 PM Boston time tomorrow.
As the soon to be old person in last place, this pleases me.
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If I remember correctly what albums mine came from, this looks like medium news for me.
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Not bad with Parallax 1 in second place.
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:soon:
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So...
Album rankings by scores..
Automata II
Paralax I
Coma Eliptica
Colors II
Paralax II
Automata I
We have a new person in first place and a new person in last place.
Results 2:30 PM Boston time tomorrow.
Not looking too good for me :sadpanda:
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So...Between The Buried And Me..
I had started a deep dive on BTBAM before the new DT album came out. Honestly, I had kind of had enough anyway. I liked the energy of the first album, and I thought they stepped it up on Colors and The Great Misdirect.
The harsh vocals for this band are atrocious. They just do not agree with me. But the band can sometimes soften the blow if the music underneath is restrained or melodic. But those vocals couples with frantic instrumentation is just a wall of sound that is just not pleasurable.
The thing is, their singer has an amazing clean voice. If he did a Corey Taylor type thing where he had a band and sang clean, I'd be all over it.
I also want to say that the drumming in this band is incredible. Like..INCREDIBLE.
The First Impressions often had no relation to the songs after more listens. It really took a lot to break these songs down. A few times for some of the longer songs, I pulled up the lyrics just to help me with the arrangements. If you sent a longer song, and it didn't score well, it's likely for two reasons:
1. First, there just wasn't enough time for the songs to grow on me, and I admit that may be the case, and..
2. I didn't like it! ;D
So while Devin Townsend was a definite win, and Haken was a slight win, to me, BTBAM is more like a push. There's a handful of tracks here that I like, and I will swap out some of the lesser tracks and replace them with tracks from the earlier albums and keep the playlist.
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Five minutes late.
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Between The Results And Me
Kingshmegland
The Coma Machine.....7.9
Interesting song that I can’t even link to early BTBAM that I have heard.
Tough to put my finger on the beginning. The dreamy section at 1:17 sets up the next section really well. Is it me, or do I hear CCR’s Up Around The Bend under the vocals? The sections in this song all transition really well. This might be the easiest on the ears song in this round. Really pleasant.
Never Seen/Future Shock....7.8
The harsh vocal sections in this song are awful.
Ok, so the first two minutes feels like an intro with vocals. Too bad there are vocals though because the music is great underneath. I hear Michael Schenker right at 2:26. This next section is really nice with excellent clean vocals. The second half of the song is much more enjoyable. The chorus again at 10:24 is so nice. Great guitar underneath.
7.9+7.8=15.7/2=7.85
HOF
Fix The Error...8.1
This goes from Megadeth to Moby Dick to Helloween..and that’s just the first three minutes.
I love this song. This has a total Megadeth feel to it to start, and the drum solos are freaking awesome. I love the cowbell that keeps it continual. Right into a Helloween-ish section and solo. This song has a great pace that doesn’t hit you over the head with excessive playing.
Bad Habits...8.0
One of the leaders in the clubhouse.
I like the first couple of minutes musically. The ongoing lead guitar is cool.
I’m having trouble placing the guitar line at 2:09, but it sounds familiar somehow. Feels Schenkerish. 4:51 has a total Slayer feel briefly. I literally got goosebumps at 5:14. That is wicked Michael Schenker for 30 seconds straight off of Assault Attack. WOW! The songs ends really sweet.
8.1+8.0=16.1/2=8.05
Cyril
Specular Reflection...8.3
The cleans in this were excellent. Fantastic ending.
The beginning reminds me of the storm in Empire Of The Clouds.
A harsh section to start. I feel like it’s an initiation where that you have to go through to get to the good part of the song. But right at 1:38 with the syncopated section is awesome with fantastic drumming.
The harshies from 1:59-2:19 really do a good job of being right on the rhythm underneath. At 3:45 we hear that great clean vocal line for the first time. It really sticks. The harsh vocal section around 7:00 has song great playing underneath culminating in Anthrax style at 8:20. The next section is really cool. Gotta live through some more harshies until the payoff at 9:48.
I really like a lot of this song, might be my favorite clean vocal, even if it’s a repeated line.
Blot...7.6
That was a lot to chew on.
Has a DT sounding intro. I don’t love the harshies in the opening verses. The clean chorus is nice though. I like the little bit at 5:22 that sets up the next section. Kind of mellow for a bit. I like the “I won’t remember me” part. Don’t love the harshies that follow, though the riffing is awesome.
8.3+7.6=15.9/2=7.95
Romdrums
Specular Reflection....8.3
The cleans in this were excellent. Fantastic ending.
The beginning reminds me of the storm in Empire Of The Clouds.
A harsh section to start. I feel like it’s an initiation where that you have to go through to get to the good part of the song. But right at 1:38 with the syncopated section is awesome with fantastic drumming.
The harshies from 1:59-2:19 really do a good job of being right on the rhythm underneath. At 3:45 we hear that great clean vocal line for the first time. It really sticks. The harsh vocal section around 7:00 has song great playing underneath culminating in Anthrax style at 8:20. The next section is really cool. Gotta live through some more harshies until the payoff at 9:48.
I really like a lot of this song, might be my favorite clean vocal, even if it’s a repeated line.
Turn On The Darkness...8.2
I liked this. I couldn’t tell you what I just heard, but I liked it.
Enjoying the opening. I really do like this guy’s clean voice. The harsh vocals are tolerable as the music isn’t as frantic underneath. This song feels a bit more direct. Reminds me a bit of Kansas a bit in the middle. The harshes later in the song are well supported by the music.
This is this round’s Deathless I think. Somewhat tame compared to the rest, but simply downright enjoyable.
8.3+8.2=16.5/2=8.25
LudwigVan
Astral Body....7.3
Has some older elements to it.
The intro to this is excellent. The harsh vocal really isn’t that bad, because the music underneath it doesn’t compete with it. The middle clean section is nice enough. I like the second harsh section less than the first. Did I miss an instrumental/solo section? This feels kind of incomplete. I see it’s the first track on the album, so it’s leading in to something else. As a stand alone song, it feels a bit short.
For the second round in a row, the most sent song feels kind of…disappointing.
Condemned To the Gallows...7.4
Really nice song with bits that don’t hit you over the head.
This is actually a decent song, but it is really unremarkable. There’s no part that really jumps out at me a differentiates itself. There’s really nothing I don’t like about it, but I just didn’t find it all that memorable.
7.3+7.4=14.7/2=7.35
Lonestar
King Redeem/Queen Serene...7.9
This song is fucked up, which I know could also be said for any other track in the playlist.
Wow, what a nice opening. The harsh and cleans mixed together for a bit is interesting, but when the cleans separate at 3:07, I like that. Nice groove there. 4:30…Wow! 4:50..um..not wow. Really cool playing at 5:15. Great piano outro.
This song really grew on me. I wasn’t sure on first listen, but it became one of my favorites.
Voice Of Trespass..7.8
The reminds me of Riot’s Privilege Of Power and just when did David Lee Roth join BTBAM?
The horns at the beginning reminds me Riot’s Privilege Of Power. Sounds like Dave Mustaine in the beginning. I do like the feel of this. It is definitely different than anything else. Cool part at 4:22. I like the use of the bells after the “Wake Up”. The “Comdemned To The Gallows part is great. The guitar underneath is really classy. This song starts off kind of hokey but ends epically.
7.9+7.8=15.7/2=7.85
Puppies
The Proverbial Bellow..8.5
I love the large amount of clean vocals in this song.
What a great two minutes plus intro! Wow! I like the use of the keyboards in the next section with nice clean vocals. Nice chorus at 4:55. 6:20 -7:00 is nails. The song alternates between strong melodic passages with a smattering of harsh vocals separating the parts for effect. I hear some of Iron Maiden’s S-15 at 9:25. The guitar outro on this is amazing.
Bad Habits...8.0
One of the leaders in the clubhouse.
I like the first couple of minutes musically. The ongoing lead guitar is cool.
I’m having trouble placing the guitar line at 2:09, but it sounds familiar somehow. Feels Schenkerish. 4:51 has a total Slayer feel briefly. I literally got goosebumps at 5:14. That is wicked Michael Schenker for 30 seconds straight off of Assault Attack. WOW! The songs ends really sweet.
8.5+8.0=16.5/2=8.25
Professor
Monochrome....7.0
Starts out pleasant and goes downhill from there.
Starts off mellow for the first minute and the at 1:07 comes the best section of the song, which sounds like a slowed down version of Steve Miller’s Abracadabra. Unfortunately is a playlist of monsters, this really comes up short.
Millions...7.0
A short song with clean vocals. Doesn’t go anywhere though.
Oddly, this song might have benefitted from having harsh vocals do the verse. The chorus is just fine as it is. The guitar at 2:28 is nice.
There’s not much else to say about this song. It’s just kind of there.
7.0+7.0=14/2=7.0
425
Lunar Wilderness...7.9
I couldn’t wait for this to end. That is, until I got to the ending.
The beginning of this reminds me a bit of Lock Vostock’s Expiry Date Of The Soul Of Man. Vocal part is ..ugh. Classy solo at 2:17. Lots of fast playing harsh vocals for the next few minutes which is not pleasurable in any way. Badass riff at 5:10. A much needed ear cleansing begins around 6:20. The guitar underneath the cleans here at the end of the song is excellent.
Lay Your Ghosts To Rest...7.4
I have no idea what I just heard.
Jeez, jumps right in, doesn’t it? Once the first 90 seconds of hazing is complete, I like what’s going on. Kind of light hearted. The section at 2:30 is great. Nice vocals. I could do without the harsh vocal section that follows. It’s too fucking much. The vocals on top of the blast beats is simply a wall of sound that is practically unlistenable. 6:30 to the end of the song is outstanding.
Really struggled with what to do with this song. I liked everything except for the harsh vocal sections.
7.9+7.4=15.3/2=7.65
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Kwyjibo
The Coma Machine....7.9
Interesting song that I can’t even link to early BTBAM that I have heard.
Tough to put my finger on the beginning. The dreamy section at 1:17 sets up the next section really well. Is it me, or do I hear CCR’s Up Around The Bend under the vocals? The sections in this song all transition really well. This might be the easiest on the ears song in this round. Really pleasant.
Condemned To The Gallows....7.4
Really nice song with bits that don’t hit you over the head.
This is actually a decent song, but it is really unremarkable. There’s no part that really jumps out at me a differentiates itself. There’s really nothing I don’t like about it, but I just didn’t find it all that memorable.
7.9+7.4=15.3=7.65
Wolfking
Specular Reflection...8.3
The cleans in this were excellent. Fantastic ending.
The beginning reminds me of the storm in Empire Of The Clouds.
A harsh section to start. I feel like it’s an initiation where that you have to go through to get to the good part of the song. But right at 1:38 with the syncopated section is awesome with fantastic drumming.
The harshies from 1:59-2:19 really do a good job of being right on the rhythm underneath. At 3:45 we hear that great clean vocal line for the first time. It really sticks. The harsh vocal section around 7:00 has song great playing underneath culminating in Anthrax style at 8:20. The next section is really cool. Gotta live through some more harshies until the payoff at 9:48.
I really like a lot of this song, might be my favorite clean vocal, even if it’s a repeated line.
Lunar Wilderness....7.9
I couldn’t wait for this to end. That is, until I got to the ending.
The beginning of this reminds me a bit of Lock Vostock’s Expiry Date Of The Soul Of Man. Vocal part is ..ugh. Classy solo at 2:17. Lots of fast playing harsh vocals for the next few minutes which is not pleasurable in any way. Badass riff at 5:10. A much needed ear cleansing begins around 6:20. The guitar underneath the cleans here at the end of the song is excellent.
8.3+7.9=16.2/2=8.10
Ariich
Lay Your Ghosts To Rest....7.4
I have no idea what I just heard.
Jeez, jumps right in, doesn’t it? Once the first 90 seconds of hazing is complete, I like what’s going on. Kind of light hearted. The section at 2:30 is great. Nice vocals. I could do without the harsh vocal section that follows. It’s too fucking much. The vocals on top of the blast beats is simply a wall of sound that is practically unlistenable. 6:30 to the end of the song is outstanding.
Really struggled with what to do with this song. I liked everything except for the harsh vocal sections.
Silent Flight Parliament....7.8
Well, that was extremely musical.
The minute and a half intro sounds promising. The harsh vocal section for the next few minutes is not good vocally, but there is some sick playing underneath, especially the drumming. A hectic part follows..tough to break down, really, but again, crazy ass playing. The section at 7:40 is a nice respite. The acoustic at 9:29 is a great touch. The clean vocal at 10:10. Cool instrumental section and the cleans that come after are excellent. Ooh Anneke! Er..what..what’s not Anneke..ok but they are interesting tio mix. Even the harsh vocals have a steady rhythm underneath which makes them more palatable. Grand ending that even those harshies at the end can’t ruin.
Overall, I really liked this. Great playing throughout. Not a fan of the harsh section early on. That was the only hurdle.
7.4+7.8=15.2/2=7.60
Evermind
Astral Body....7.3
Has some older elements to it.
The intro to this is excellent. The harsh vocal really isn’t that bad, because the music underneath it doesn’t compete with it. The middle clean section is nice enough. I like the second harsh section less than the first. Did I miss an instrumental/solo section? This feels kind of incomplete. I see it’s the first track on the album, so it’s leading in to something else. As a stand alone song, it feels a bit short.
For the second round in a row, the most sent song feels kind of…disappointing.
Revolution In Limbo....7.8
Musically this is amazing.
After its harsh opening, The clean “Over and Over” line is welcomed, as is the nice clean section that follows. I really like the music under the harshies at 4:28. The Bolero part is pretty decent, and the return of the clean chorus. Great guitar here towards the end. This would make a fantastic instrumental.
7.3-7.8=15.1/2=7.55
Vmadera
Extremophile Elite...7.8
I hear a lot of Dream Theater in this.
Musically, this is pretty crazy. I hear a lot of DT in this. Moment Of Betrayal at 3:00 for instance. At the end of the day though, I don’t think I can give this a sufficient amount of listens to truly break this down. I like the “Surround Me’ part around 6:30 and the instrumental section that follows is excellent. I hear some Home when the vocals come back in.
I would really need to live with this one for a while. My reaction here is that it’s pretty good. Something that could grow over time. Time we just don’t have right now.
Fix The Error....8.1
This goes from Megadeth to Moby Dick to Helloween..and that’s just the first three minutes.
I love this song. This has a total Megadeth feel to it to start, and the drum solos are freaking awesome. I love the cowbell that keeps it continual. Right into a Helloween-ish section and solo. This song has a great pace that doesn’t hit you over the head with excessive playing.
7.8+8.1=15.9/2=7.95
Elite
Lay Your Ghosts To Rest....7.4
I have no idea what I just heard.
Jeez, jumps right in, doesn’t it? Once the first 90 seconds of hazing is complete, I like what’s going on. Kind of light hearted. The section at 2:30 is great. Nice vocals. I could do without the harsh vocal section that follows. It’s too fucking much. The vocals on top of the blast beats is simply a wall of sound that is practically unlistenable. 6:30 to the end of the song is outstanding.
Really struggled with what to do with this song. I liked every thing except for the harsh vocal sections.
Voice Of Trespass....7.8
The reminds me of Riot’s Privilege Of Power and just when did David Lee Roth join BTBAM?
The horns at the beginning reminds me Riot’s Privilege Of Power. Sounds like Dave Mustaine in the beginning. I do like the feel of this. It is definitely different than anything else. Cool part at 4:22. I like the use of the bells after the “Wake Up”. The “Comdemned To The Gallows part is great. The guitar underneath is really classy. This song starts off kind of hokey but ends epically.
7.4+7.8=15.2/2=7.60
Buddy
Astral Body....7.3
Has some older elements to it.
The intro to this is excellent. The harsh vocal really isn’t that bad, because the music underneath it doesn’t compete with it. The middle clean section is nice enough. I like the second harsh section less than the first. Did I miss an instrumental/solo section? This feels kind of incomplete. I see it’s the first track on the album, so it’s leading in to something else. As a stand alone song, it feels a bit short.
For the second round in a row, the most sent song feels kind of…disappointing.
Memory Palace....8.2
The part right before the actual ending is Schenkeriffic!
Another 90 second intro that is really inviting. I like the ix between the harshies and the cleans in the beginning. The harshies used for effect. This guys cleans are really nice, so much more than other bands that go back and forth. The part at 7:48 reminds me a lot of Michael Schenker. I like the section after that closes the song.
7.3+8.2=15.5/2=7.75
Chadler
Astral Body....7.3
Has some older elements to it.
The intro to this is excellent. The harsh vocal really isn’t that bad, because the music underneath it doesn’t compete with it. The middle clean section is nice enough. I like the second harsh section less than the first. Did I miss an instrumental/solo section? This feels kind of incomplete. I see it’s the first track on the album, so it’s leading in to something else. As a stand alone song, it feels a bit short.
For the second round in a row, the most sent song feels kind of…disappointing.
Condemned To The Gallows....7.4
Really nice song with bits that don’t hit you over the head.
This is actually a decent song, but it is really unremarkable. There’s no part that really jumps out at me a differentiates itself. There’s really nothing I don’t like about it, but I just didn’t find it all that memorable.
7.3+7.4=14.7/2=7.35
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Round 3 Standings
Puppies....8.25
Romdrums....8.25
Wolfking....8.10
HOF....8.05
Cyril....7.95
Vmadera....7.95
Kingshmegland....7.85
Lonestar....7.85
Buddy....7.75
425....7.65
Kwyjibo....7.65
Elite....7.60
Ariich....7.60
Evermind....7.55
LudwigVan....7.35
Stadler....7.35
Professor....7.0
Standings
Puppies...8.60+8.15+8.25=25.00
Ariich...9.0+8.15+7.60=24.75
Kwyjibo...7.80+8.75+7.65=24.20
Romdrums...8.25+7.65+8.25=24.15
Kingshmegland...7.70+8.25+7.85=23.80
VMadera...8.45+7.35+7.95=23.75
Cyril...7.55+8.25+7.95=23.75
Stadler...8.50+7.75+7.35=23.60
Evermind...8.20+7.75+7.55=23.50
Wolfking...7.80+7.6+8.10=23.50
LudwigVan...8.35+7.55+7.35=23.25
HOF...7.65+7.50+8.05=23.20
425...7.90+7.40+7.65=22.95
Buddy...7.05+8.15+7.75=22.95
Lonestar...7.80+7.25+7.85=22.90
Elite...7.50+7.75+7.60=22.85
Professor...8.20+7.6+7.0=22.80
Check my math!!!
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Whoops! Sorry Stads.
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I need a new dartboard.
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It's okay for a band I don't really know. :D
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:justjen If I thought I hated BTBAM before, this just puts the rubber stamp on it. :lol
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:justjen If I thought I hated BTBAM before, this just puts the rubber stamp on it. :lol
:lol
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Damn, I considered The Proverbial Below as an Automata entry too, was so close but so far :lol
I'll take that though. Anyways I'll diceroll for fail more tonight or something idk call me back when we get to round 5
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Eh, okay I guess.
425, I'll roll some dice and send you some Neal Morse stuff so you could verify it for the vocal Nealness tomorrow.
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Okay, didn't win the round or even come close, so I guess I'm going to remain in the dark on what my submissions sound like! Middle of the pack is fine for me on a complete unknown, but I need to start stepping it up over the next few artists if I want to contend here.
Evermind and anyone else who wants to check vocals, my PM inbox is open.
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Let's get the Neal Morse songs in!
Again, when I added this round, I didn't realize he wasn't the singer, or main singer in all of his songs. But as long as he's 50%, it should be ok. The goal is to listen to him, but if another guy sings a chorus or something like that, that should be fine.
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Also, I have been asked by a fellow forumer who considers themself a Neal Morse expert. So much so, that, they will assume a handicap, that once all of the "best songs" are sent, they will pick two songs not sent to submit.
Their score will have no bearing on any of your scores, but I will grade them on the side for the hell of it.
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Also, I have been asked by a fellow forumer who considers themself a Neal Morse expert. So much so, that, they will assume a handicap, that once all of the "best songs" are sent, they will pick two songs not sent to submit.
Their score will have no bearing on any of your scores, but I will grade them on the side for the hell of it.
This is cool, because I was sort of torn between wanting to do well and wanting to give you a diverse range of his music. As a result I used one of my spots to send something that I expect to be a really popular choice. So it will be nice to have someone sending songs just out of the motivation of wanting you to hear more.
Do we get to know who it is? Kev? Letter M?
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Also, I have been asked by a fellow forumer who considers themself a Neal Morse expert. So much so, that, they will assume a handicap, that once all of the "best songs" are sent, they will pick two songs not sent to submit.
Their score will have no bearing on any of your scores, but I will grade them on the side for the hell of it.
This is cool, because I was sort of torn between wanting to do well and wanting to give you a diverse range of his music. As a result I used one of my spots to send something that I expect to be a really popular choice. So it will be nice to have someone sending songs just out of the motivation of wanting you to hear more.
Do we get to know who it is? Kev? Letter M?
Not anytime soon.. ;D
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Also, I have been asked by a fellow forumer who considers themself a Neal Morse expert. So much so, that, they will assume a handicap, that once all of the "best songs" are sent, they will pick two songs not sent to submit.
Their score will have no bearing on any of your scores, but I will grade them on the side for the hell of it.
This is cool, because I was sort of torn between wanting to do well and wanting to give you a diverse range of his music. As a result I used one of my spots to send something that I expect to be a really popular choice. So it will be nice to have someone sending songs just out of the motivation of wanting you to hear more.
Do we get to know who it is? Kev? Letter M?
Not anytime soon.. ;D
MP?
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You got one thing absolutely right in your assessment, Blake Richardson is a top drummer. Like top 5 for me. He is a fucking beast.
Sent happy Christian tunes.
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Also, I have been asked by a fellow forumer who considers themself a Neal Morse expert. So much so, that, they will assume a handicap, that once all of the "best songs" are sent, they will pick two songs not sent to submit.
Their score will have no bearing on any of your scores, but I will grade them on the side for the hell of it.
This is cool, because I was sort of torn between wanting to do well and wanting to give you a diverse range of his music. As a result I used one of my spots to send something that I expect to be a really popular choice. So it will be nice to have someone sending songs just out of the motivation of wanting you to hear more.
Do we get to know who it is? Kev? Letter M?
Not anytime soon.. ;D
MP?
TAC's made too many negative comments about MP's vocals for that to be possible. :lol
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Also, I have been asked by a fellow forumer who considers themself a Neal Morse expert. So much so, that, they will assume a handicap, that once all of the "best songs" are sent, they will pick two songs not sent to submit.
Their score will have no bearing on any of your scores, but I will grade them on the side for the hell of it.
This is cool, because I was sort of torn between wanting to do well and wanting to give you a diverse range of his music. As a result I used one of my spots to send something that I expect to be a really popular choice. So it will be nice to have someone sending songs just out of the motivation of wanting you to hear more.
Do we get to know who it is? Kev? Letter M?
Not anytime soon.. ;D
MP?
:lol
Um...no.
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:lol
Trying to narrow down the songs. I'll work on that tonight.
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Dammit, got beaten by people who picked songs at random. :lol
More so than previous rounds, it's hard to reconcile write-ups with scores. Like, some other songs seem to have similarly critical writeups to Lay Your Ghosts To Rest but much better scores.
That said, I can understand why that song didn't work for you. I sent it because of how amazing the clean sections are and I'm glad you enjoyed those as much as you did, but I guess there's quite a few intense parts throughout the song too.
Silent Flight Parliament I feel deserved better, but never mind, bring on the next round.
I'm gunning for you, Pup!
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Well at least Memory Palace was a good call! I love the breakdown riff in the middle of that one. All of BTBAM's cowbell breakdowns are good, actually. :lol
Sent for Neal Morse. Unlike you cowards who dice rolled I suffered through enough to find just two songs I actually enjoyed. :biggrin: Same for the next round.
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Sent for NM.
Since I am the bottom dweller, I threw caution to the wind and discarded my TAC-centric picks and went with favorites. Maybe it will keep me where I am and maybe it will backfire and he'll love them.
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I'm happy my Parallax 1 combo paid off well enough. Just a beast of an EP.
I almost sent Human is Hell. I kind of wish I did now to be honest.
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Dammit, got beaten by people who picked songs at random. :lol
More so than previous rounds, it's hard to reconcile write-ups with scores. Like, some other songs seem to have similarly critical writeups to Lay Your Ghosts To Rest but much better scores.
That said, I can understand why that song didn't work for you. I sent it because of how amazing the clean sections are and I'm glad you enjoyed those as much as you did, but I guess there's quite a few intense parts throughout the song too.
Silent Flight Parliament I feel deserved better, but never mind, bring on the next round.
I'm gunning for you, Pup!
So, Silent Flight Parliament might've benefitted from a two week round.
As far as the writeups/scores go..
For this round, I listened to each song three times and on the fourth run through, I did the writeups. I start ranking during the second listen, and tweak it again after the third. As I was doing the writeups, a lot of these songs started to clear up for me. Again, tweaking the rankings as I went.
After that, I basically grant a high and low score range and play with them within. I needle dropped some things that I was unsure of, but by that point, I was just done with this round. Usually, I'll do a reaction style writeup with a sentence or two at the end with a general thought. But this round, like I said, I just couldn't do another listen and tweak the comments.
All of the songs had good parts in them.
Lay Your Ghosts To Rest was an example of one song actually getting worse the more I listened to it. :lol
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Well, that turned out to be a pretty decent round. Now for some Neal Morse! Sent.
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Wow, that went wrong.
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Boom! Tied with puppies for best score of the round. :metal
Glad you liked those tunes. Some of my favorites from BTBAM, that’s for sure!
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Roulette Update!
For the Mastodon round, I WILL accept submissions from their new album. Initially I banned it, as I have listened to most of it ONCE. It IS ok to send something from their new album. The OP has been updated..
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9 in so far, and the double submissions are already accumulating. :lol
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Roulette Update!
For the Mastodon round, I WILL accept submissions from their new album. Initially I banned it, as I have listened to most of it ONCE. It IS ok to send something from their new album. The OP has been updated..
Fair play but I wouldn't bother personally. They have enough good shit outside the new one to send IMO. Could be a masterstroke for some songs though if submitted.
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Can you make another roulette update where I can send Steve Morse instead of Neal Morse?
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Roulette Update!
For the Mastodon round, I WILL accept submissions from their new album. Initially I banned it, as I have listened to most of it ONCE. It IS ok to send something from their new album. The OP has been updated..
Fair play but I wouldn't bother personally. They have enough good shit outside the new one to send IMO. Could be a masterstroke for some songs though if submitted.
Don't you mean a.....mastostroke? :neverusethis:
I'm sorry.
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Can you make another roulette update where I can send Steve Morse instead of Neal Morse?
Yeah, but you'd have to send Pete Townsend instead of Devin Townsend. :lol
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Roulette Update!
For the Mastodon round, I WILL accept submissions from their new album. Initially I banned it, as I have listened to most of it ONCE. It IS ok to send something from their new album. The OP has been updated..
Fair play but I wouldn't bother personally. They have enough good shit outside the new one to send IMO. Could be a masterstroke for some songs though if submitted.
Don't you mean a.....mastostroke? :neverusethis:
I'm sorry.
No.......a mastastroke.
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Can you make another roulette update where I can send Steve Morse instead of Neal Morse?
Yeah, but you'd have to send Pete Townsend instead of Devin Townsend. :lol
Deal. :lol
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:lol
I was right in front of Jerry Peek when The Steve Morse Band opened up for Rush on the Power Windows tour. What a great show.
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:lol
I was right in front of Jerry Peek when The Steve Morse Band opened up for Rush on the Power Windows tour. What a great show.
Amazing player indeed.
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i'm listening to a few neil morse band songs and if there's more than one singer on any of these i would never in a million years be able to tell. i can't find any reference for who sings what anywhere online either so if i accidentally submit a banned song i think it should considered legal anyways because it's not my fault the man doesn't sing in his own goddamn band :loser:
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i'm listening to a few neil morse band songs and if there's more than one singer on any of these i would never in a million years be able to tell. i can't find any reference for who sings what anywhere online either so if i accidentally submit a banned song i think it should considered legal anyways because it's not my fault the man doesn't sing in his own goddamn band :loser:
You're telling me the singer at 1:56 sounds just like the singer at 2:24? (https://youtu.be/PiNt_kQvoag) Might want to get your ears checked.
The reference is me. Just PM me what you're submitting and I'll tell you if you're good. I am going to be stickler about it if TAC posts the submissions and there ends up being banned stuff in there, because I didn't get to send everything I wanted to send.
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Can you make another roulette update where I can send Steve Morse instead of Neal Morse?
Find a Flying Colors song with a lot of Neal vocal and you are set.
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:lol
I was right in front of Jerry Peek when The Steve Morse Band opened up for Rush on the Power Windows tour. What a great show.
I saw them on that tour. If you own the bootleg of the Providence show, I know the kid that taped it, and he did an amazing job.
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i'm listening to a few neil morse band songs and if there's more than one singer on any of these i would never in a million years be able to tell. i can't find any reference for who sings what anywhere online either so if i accidentally submit a banned song i think it should considered legal anyways because it's not my fault the man doesn't sing in his own goddamn band :loser:
You're telling me the singer at 1:56 sounds just like the singer at 2:24? (https://youtu.be/PiNt_kQvoag) Might want to get your ears checked.
i mean i didn't listen to this one, so :lol
i've literally checked out like four or five songs at most and there was only one part in one song where it was a noticeably different singer
rather than everyone PMing 425 individually i think he owes us a list of every song that's eligible by the 50% rule, if we're actually being this big of a stickler about vetting it :corn
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i'm listening to a few neil morse band songs and if there's more than one singer on any of these i would never in a million years be able to tell. i can't find any reference for who sings what anywhere online either so if i accidentally submit a banned song i think it should considered legal anyways because it's not my fault the man doesn't sing in his own goddamn band :loser:
You're telling me the singer at 1:56 sounds just like the singer at 2:24? (https://youtu.be/PiNt_kQvoag) Might want to get your ears checked.
The reference is me. Just PM me what you're submitting and I'll tell you if you're good. I am going to be stickler about it if TAC posts the submissions and there ends up being banned stuff in there, because I didn't get to send everything I wanted to send.
(https://i.imgflip.com/5vg5zz.jpg)
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:lol
What I'm writing on that clipboard is "No, ariich, that's Eric Gillette."
It's easier for me to vet what gets sent than go through 62 songs by myself, but fine. I'll post a list soon.
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What I'm writing on that clipboard is "No, ariich, that's Eric Gillette."
:lol
Nice.
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Our friend is checking in...
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i mean i'm actually suffering through listening to this, i'd like to know my suffering is worth something
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i mean i'm actually suffering through listening to this, i'd like to know my suffering is worth something
Now you know how I felt last round. :lol
There's no way it's that bad, is it?
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:lol
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425 already said one of my songs is 50% Neal so I’m holding him to that! :biggrin:
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There's no way it's that bad, is it?
they are actually a lot better than anything i've been sent featuring him in a roulette but that's largely in part because i'm perusing a combination of RYM and the recent Neal Morse survivor to pick at only the songs people seem to like the most that are also not a billion years long :lol a few of the ones i checked out were pretty lousy though anyways. would not listen to any of these albums in full
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we should retroactively redo the BTBAM round and ban any songs that have less than 50% growls and see what happens :neverusethis:
opeth has to be 75% or more growls too and the SW/PT songs have to be at least 80% british
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Imagine that graph? :lol
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We do science in this roulette! :lol
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:lol
I was less than fully exact (I don't even know how one would do that). If it was very close to 50%, I gave the benefit of the doubt.
Here's the list of legal songs. Bear in mind that this only applies to Neal Morse Band songs. Neal Morse solo songs are all legal unless they are instrumentals or from the Jesus Christ the Exorcist album where there are a lot of different singers.
The Call
The Grand Experiment
Waterfall
Agenda
Alive Again
New Jerusalem (Freedom is Coming)
Long Day
The Dream
City of Destruction
We Have Got to Go
Makes No Sense
Draw the Line
Back to the City
Breath of Angels
Slave to Your Mind
Shortcut to Salvation
The Man in the Iron Cage
The Road Called Home
Sloth
Freedom Song
I’m Running
The Mask
Confrontation
Broken Sky/Long Day (Reprise)
Overture [from The Great Adventure]
The Dream Isn’t Over
Welcome to the World
A Momentary Change
Dark Melody
I Got to Run
To the River
The Great Adventure
Venture in Black
Long Ago
The Dream Continues
Fighting with Destiny
Welcome to the World 2 (forgot this one)
Child of Wonder
Do It All Again
Bird on a Wire
Another Story to Tell
Not Afraid Pt. 1
Not Afraid Pt. 2
Beyond the Years (lol someone do it)
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looks like i'm good anyways, then :lol i sent one NMB song and one NM solo song and the NMB song i sent is on the list so eyup. Just As Planned
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Who's running this roulette? :lol :lol
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Please don't make me listen to BTBAM
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Desert of Song - 10 Hour Loop
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Woohoo! 1st place! Time to tank the Neal Morse round!
I actually almost sent Memory Palace instead of Bad Habits, which would have improved my score even more, but I swapped it out at the last second. Oh well.
I'll be sending my Neal Morse stuff in a little bit.
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Nobody sent Bloom? Or Melting City? Or The Grid? I knew I should've joined this roulette :'(
There were still some great choices here, though, like The Coma Machine and The Proverbial Bellow.
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And sent! :corn
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Nobody sent Bloom? Or Melting City? Or The Grid? I knew I should've joined this roulette :'(
There were still some great choices here, though, like The Coma Machine and The Proverbial Bellow.
I would have never ever entertained the idea sending Bloom.
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I almost sent Telos, but the first few minutes would have fully turned Tim off.
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Sent
I wonder if some of you were brave enough to sent some of NMs 30+ minute epics.
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Sent
I wonder if some of you were brave enough to sent some of NMs 30+ minute epics.
Someone send Beyond the Years and The Great Nothing.
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Sent.
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Sent
I wonder if some of you were brave enough to sent some of NMs 30+ minute epics.
I tortured Tim with Kaleidoscope once.
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Sent
I wonder if some of you were brave enough to sent some of NMs 30+ minute epics.
I tortured Tim with Kaleidoscope once.
That song is not even good, just long.
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Sent
I wonder if some of you were brave enough to sent some of NMs 30+ minute epics.
I tortured Tim with Kaleidoscope once.
Is that what you sent in the Epic round in my first roulette?
Found it!
Jingle.boy - Transatlantic – Kaleidoscope
I would’ve been fine with Dimension Act. You told me I NEED this song. I NEED an enema too.
Seriously, I could only get through this twice. It’s too much and while the playing is very good and nice, I had a hard time staying focused on it. Awesome to hear MP though, and I really miss his playing. The vocals on this are pretty bland, and this would be much better live. I think it would have retained some more energy. The two Anathema songs from the last round would’ve likely struggled too had it not been a live round.
8.5
Even though it got an 8.5, it was last place in the round. :lol
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So to clear up any confusion...
I got this very nice greeting in one of my PMs...
Hi there Tee Ay Cee!
..even though T-A-C are my initials, it's pronouned TACK! :lol
Although I do think of HOF as H-O-F and not as HOFF.
HOF, please let us know the preference.
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So to clear up any confusion...
I got this very nice greeting in one of my PMs...
Hi there Tee Ay Cee!
..even though T-A-C are my initials, it's pronouned TACK! :lol
Although I do think of HOF as H-O-F and not as HOFF.
HOF, please let us know the preference.
Well, it was shortened from my MP forum name which was HAIRONFIRE, so H-O-F would be appropriate, but I probably think of it as HOFF when I see it now. Either way works really.
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So to clear up any confusion...
I got this very nice greeting in one of my PMs...
Hi there Tee Ay Cee!
..even though T-A-C are my initials, it's pronouned TACK! :lol
Although I do think of HOF as H-O-F and not as HOFF.
HOF, please let us know the preference.
So Tee Ay Cee Kay? ;D
But the A doesn't stand for Aleister?
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But the A doesn't stand for Aleister?
It's Alan, but close enough. :lol
And yes, that is my last name.
I've told this story before, but my father was a high school teacher. One of his students brought in a cassette and said "Mr. Crowley, you have to hear this song." :lol
I was in junior high, 7th or 8th grade, and my father brought home a copy of Blizzard Of Ozz, so we listened to it.
He hated it.
I loved it! :metal
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It's pronounced Tack-e.
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:lol
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Okay, I'm home, let's roll it! Spock's Beard is also allowed, right?
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Okay, I'm home, let's roll it! Spock's Beard is also allowed, right?
Apparently. :lol
Yes, it is.
Make sure there's a good amount of Neal singing.
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Once Ruslan sends, I'll be just waiting for Vmadera.
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Sent! Both songs from Neal's solo work as it turned out.
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Dice don't lie. :lol
(https://i.imgur.com/Uc5mL79.jpg)
Why would some even have dice like that in the first place? Surely they're just not for roulettes. :lol
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It's for nerd stuff! Although I guess roulettes are also nerd stuff in a way.
I think I may have a bit too many dice though. :lol I'll send you a pic after the roulette is done just for laughs.
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Tim, you shame me.
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Tim, you shame me.
Just doing what good friends do. Making you feel smarter than you actually are. :lol
I haven't listened to anything yet. My ears were worn out last round. There's a bunch of repeats in this round but it looks like a mountain of music in front of me. Going out later for the afternoon so I'll start on it tonight.
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:lol
Tim, Tim, Tim. I have a wife for that.
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But the A doesn't stand for Aleister?
It's Alan, but close enough. :lol
And yes, that is my last name.
I've told this story before, but my father was a high school teacher. One of his students brought in a cassette and said "Mr. Crowley, you have to hear this song." :lol
I was in junior high, 7th or 8th grade, and my father brought home a copy of Blizzard Of Ozz, so we listened to it.
He hated it.
I loved it! :metal
That's a very cool story :)
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It's for nerd stuff! Although I guess roulettes are also nerd stuff in a way.
I think I may have a bit too many dice though. :lol I'll send you a pic after the roulette is done just for laughs.
Wait, I'm old and a nerd? :'(
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It's for nerd stuff! Although I guess roulettes are also nerd stuff in a way.
I think I may have a bit too many dice though. :lol I'll send you a pic after the roulette is done just for laughs.
Wait, I'm old and a nerd? :'(
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Everyone is in. 22 songs at just under 3 hours.
I'll post stats tomorrow along with the song list.
Listening has commenced, and by that, I'm going through Cyril's and 425's submissions to eliminate their Wild Cards.
And of their combined 6 songs, I actually have to listen to 4 total tracks. :lol
And we are still waiting for the Omnicient One to send..
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TAC i already used my wildcard round 1, i told you very specifically that i was sending the third one only as a backup in case 425 told you the first song was banned :rollin
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Us old guys and our memories. Lol
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It's for nerd stuff! Although I guess roulettes are also nerd stuff in a way.
I think I may have a bit too many dice though. :lol I'll send you a pic after the roulette is done just for laughs.
Wait, I'm old and a nerd? :'(
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:lol
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TAC i already used my wildcard round 1, i told you very specifically that i was sending the third one only as a backup in case 425 told you the first song was banned :rollin
Hey lookey there, it's right there in your PM. :lol
Well, that's good, because I eliminated the third one anyway. :lol
Us old guys and our memories. Lol
It's funny, because I could've sworn Cyril used a Wild Card in the first round. :lol
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I'm embarrassed to tell you my stories :lol
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Well, alright then.
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TAC i already used my wildcard round 1, i told you very specifically that i was sending the third one only as a backup in case 425 told you the first song was banned :rollin
Hey lookey there, it's right there in your PM. :lol
Well, that's good, because I eliminated the third one anyway. :lol
my arbitration was successful! i am one step closer to figuring out the secret of the TAC tastes (5.5/10)
going to assume based on only 22 songs being sent across 17 players that there was a surprising amount of doubling up, huh? :corn i expected it for the haken and BTBAM rounds but this dude has like five billion albums
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going to assume based on only 22 songs being sent across 17 players that there was a surprising amount of doubling up, huh? :corn i expected it for the haken and BTBAM rounds but this dude has like five billion albums
I'm surprised as well. I thought I was looking at 4-5 hours of music for this round. :lol
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going to assume based on only 22 songs being sent across 17 players that there was a surprising amount of doubling up, huh? :corn i expected it for the haken and BTBAM rounds but this dude has like five billion albums
I'm surprised as well. I thought I was looking at 4-5 hours of music for this round. :lol
Will be interesting to see if anyone else sent the same songs I did. I wouldn't be surprised.
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I’m guessing everyone sent the same songs because there are a limited number of Neal Morse songs anyone would think TAC would like.
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i'd be more shocked if the songs i sent -weren't- sent by other people
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I didn't sent songs I think Tim could like, I sent songs I like. As I've been doing this whole roulette (at least for the bands I know).
Trying to guess what someone likes is bound to fail, as every man can confirm when he tries to find the perfect gift for his girlfriend/wife. ;D
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I didn't sent songs I think Tim could like, I sent songs I like. As I've been doing this whole roulette (at least for the bands I know).
Trying to guess what someone likes is bound to fail, as every man can confirm when he tries to find the perfect gift for his girlfriend/wife. ;D
I think it's good to balance the two. I won't send something I don't like a lot myself. But if I like the artist then generally there's loads of things I like a lot, so the ones I send I'll try and tailor to the host in terms of things they might like and/or things I think give a good introduction to that artist.
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I'm sending songs I like myself and think Tim might like as well. With a song you like personally, it's easier to see how/why someone else would like the same track as well.
I rarely if ever have sent songs I'm not fond of in roulettes.
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I’m guessing everyone sent the same songs because there are a limited number of Neal Morse songs anyone would think TAC would like.
This. Invariably, one could probably eliminate 1/2 of his output due to 1 of 3 reasons - not heavy enough; too long; too heavy-handed on the religiousness.
I'm kinda eager to see what's been sent. I'm no expert on Neal Morse, but I've got a good number of his albums, and all SB.
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I sent 2 SB songs for the 3 reasons Jingle mentioned. There were a few I wanted to send from NMB but didn't.
I'm hyped about the next rounds since I know all 4 bands a lot more than the first 4.
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i'd be more shocked if the songs i sent -weren't- sent by other people
All um..three of your songs were sent by multiple people. All of them.
Will be interesting to see if anyone else sent the same songs I did. I wouldn't be surprised.
I don't think anyone did, actually.
I’m guessing everyone sent the same songs because there are a limited number of Neal Morse songs anyone would think TAC would like.
This. Invariably, one could probably eliminate 1/2 of his output due to 1 of 3 reasons - not heavy enough; too long; too heavy-handed on the religiousness.
I have no problem with this. This would definitely be a wrong assumption.
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i'd be more shocked if the songs i sent -weren't- sent by other people
All um..three of your songs were sent by multiple people. All of them.
All the people?
I’m guessing everyone sent the same songs because there are a limited number of Neal Morse songs anyone would think TAC would like.
This. Invariably, one could probably eliminate 1/2 of his output due to 1 of 3 reasons - not heavy enough; too long; too heavy-handed on the religiousness.
I have no problem with this. This would definitely be a wrong assumption.
Generally speaking, I don't either. But it can get a little overly repetitive when you listen to a lot of NM/NMB for a prolonged period of time.
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I'm curious if anyone else sent the songs I sent.
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Here are the songs for this round..
Romdrums
Harm’s Way (Spock’s Beard)
Waste Away(Spock’s Beard)
Stadler
Weathering Sky
Bird On A Wire
Buddy
The Call
Bird On A Wire
425
The Call
Broken Sky/Long Day
Lonestar
Time Changer
Author Of Confusion
Professor
At The End Of The Day (Spock’s Beard)
I Am Your Father
Ariich
The Call
Another Story To Tell
HOF
Flow (Spock’s Beard)
My Shoes Revisited(Spock’s Beard)
Kingshmegland
At the End of the Day (Spock’s Beard)
The Good Don't Last(Spock’s Beard)
Cyril
The Call
In the Fire
LudwigVan
The Call
Do It Again
Puppies
Devil’s Got My Throat (Spock’s Beard)
The Light (Spock’s Beard)
Elite
Thoughts Pt II (Spock’s Beard)
Thoughts Pt V
Kwyjibo
At The End Of The Day (Spock’s Beard)
Thoughts Pt II (Spock’s Beard)
Wolfking
In The Fire
Author Of Confusion
Evermind
Entrance
Overflow
Vmadera
Crack The Big Sky (Spock's Beard)
Into Fire (Spock's Beard)
Omincient One
Seemingly Sincere
Freedom Song
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I love "The Call" but I knew so many people would send it.
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I've only listened to about 10 songs so far. I'll say this about The Call.
In the last two rounds, the most sent song was surprisingly underwhelming...
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I was sure that I'm not the only one who will send At The End Of The Day, cause that's the best Beard song right there.
Surprised someone else sent Thoughts Part II.
Omincient One
Ziltoid, is that you?
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Here are the songs for this round..
Romdrums
Harm’s Way (Spock’s Beard)
Waste Away(Spock’s Beard)
Both great and both ones I considered sending. Waste Away is a really fun track.
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Interesting. Tim, what would you say his style is reminiscent to from our youth? I always thought a mix of Kansas and Yes. Both Morse and Meros (Spock's bassist) Played with Eric Burden in the early 90's before forming Spock's Beard.
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Interesting. Tim, what would you say his style is reminiscent to from our youth? I always thought a mix of Kansas and Yes. Both Morse and Meros (Spock's bassist) Played with Eric Burden in the early 90's before forming Spock's Beard.
I definitely hear Yes. I've heard Styx, Dream Theater, and Deep Purple so far.
Eric Burdon is awesome BTW. I consider The Animals as sneaky heavy, kind of like the first metal styled band, without quite the sound yet.
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Here are the songs for this round..
Romdrums
Harm’s Way (Spock’s Beard)
Waste Away(Spock’s Beard)
Both great and both ones I considered sending. Waste Away is a really fun track.
Waste Away has one of the best lyrics line: "Some people are like gravy, spilled on god's sunday shirt" :lol
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That's funny.
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Here are the songs for this round..
Romdrums
Harm’s Way (Spock’s Beard)
Waste Away(Spock’s Beard)
Both great and both ones I considered sending. Waste Away is a really fun track.
Waste Away has one of the best lyrics line: "Some people are like gravy, spilled on god's sunday shirt" :lol
Ha, absolutely. That’s the kind of stuff I loved about Neal in the SB days.
Somehow I was not aware that Neal had done a Thoughts Pt V. Which album is that on?
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Thoughts Part V is on Momentum
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Thoughts Part V is on Momentum
Ah, I know that one but thought that was part III. Maybe there is no part III. There’s also Afterthoughts from SB that I thought was the last of the series.
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RJ and Kade, good call with Author of Confusion. :metal That's a great tune and I very much considered sending it, but in the end wasn't sure what Tim would think of the vocal approach in literally all the vocal sections in that song. :lol
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There are some really good Spock’s songs in this round. At The End Of The Day is, in my opinion, the definitive Neal era SB song. Nick’s drumming is so damn good.
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There are some really good Spock’s songs in this round. At The End Of The Day is, in my opinion, the definitive Neal era SB song. Nick’s drumming is so damn good.
Agree with all of this.
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The Call just feels like a song you can't leave on the table. I knew a ton of people would send it, but if I'm playing to win, I can't just leave it out there.
Interesting choices from the Omniscient One. I love Freedom Song, but it's hard to imagine it being a hit with Tim.
I'll just drop this tidbit: I used my wildcard, and it's interesting knowing which song was not chosen, especially since other people sent it.
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Omincient One
Ziltoid, is that you?
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51JsDOGMS9L._SY450_.jpg)
Must be King Ziltoid, since he can't spell.
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Ha ha, didn't even see that :D
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The Call just feels like a song you can't leave on the table. I knew a ton of people would send it, but if I'm playing to win, I can't just leave it out there.
Interesting choices from the Omniscient One. I love Freedom Song, but it's hard to imagine it being a hit with Tim.
I'll just drop this tidbit: I used my wildcard, and it's interesting knowing which song was not chosen, especially since other people sent it.
I considered sending Seemingly Sincere myself, that's a great song with a big buildup. Freedom Song is nice, but nothing special imo, and it works better in context with the album.
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Yeah, Seemingly Sincere is a good choice. I like Freedom Song as a standalone, but that's because I enjoy that style. Working better in the context of the album is not something that would've stopped me by itself, as you can see from my Broken Sky/Long Day submission.
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Chad, are you saying I have a dual personality? :lol
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:tup for Kwyjibo sending Thoughts II as well
Good Spock’s Beard picks all around, apart from My Shoes away from the rest of The Healing Colors of Sound. I can’t comment on the Neal Morse (Band) songs.
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RJ and Kade, good call with Author of Confusion. :metal
There are at least three songs better than it on first listen.. ;D
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I think Into Fire and Freedom Song are either going to be very smart, or very dumb (or one of each). Both are *completely* different from any other song submitted ... hell, different from any other NM/NMB/SB song in general. The former is almost Accept-like. And the latter is catchy af. But then again, so is chlamydia.
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I hadn’t heard anyone talking about The Call so I didn’t know it’d be the popular pick, I just sent it because I thought it was actually good.
Devil’s Got My Throat is one of the songs I had a violent reaction to when doing my research. :lol I could not stand Neal’s voice on that album.
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Devil’s Got My Throat is one of the songs I had a violent reaction to when doing my research. :lol I could not stand Neal’s voice on that album.
So..maybe the devil actually DID have his throat?
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Whoops! Sorry Stads.
Fucking killing me. :)
(I'm kidding; I appreciate you stepping up.)
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Devil’s Got My Throat is one of the songs I had a violent reaction to when doing my research. :lol I could not stand Neal’s voice on that album.
So..maybe the devil actually DID have his throat?
:icy:
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Whoops! Sorry Stads.
Fucking killing me. :)
(I'm kidding; I appreciate you stepping up.)
Seemed like he actually stepped down...
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I hadn’t heard anyone talking about The Call so I didn’t know it’d be the popular pick, I just sent it because I thought it was actually good.
That doesn't really surprise me. The Call is so good that I can easily see it being one of those "I'm not really a fan of NM, but I do like this" songs.
It's cool that The Call is the first song on the first Neal Morse Band album. What a way to say "yeah, this 'Band' thing is not a gimmick, there's something special here." (For the uninitiated, "Neal Morse Band" is a five-piece, truly collaborative project that should probably have a different name, while "Neal Morse" solo albums are truly solo.) Actually, the first song on the first album of a lot of NM projects end up being pretty special: The Light, All of the Above, The Call.
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RJ and Kade, good call with Author of Confusion. :metal That's a great tune and I very much considered sending it, but in the end wasn't sure what Tim would think of the vocal approach in literally all the vocal sections in that song. :lol
spoilers: it was my """wildcard""" that TAC liked less than my other two :corn
if the call had been banned, i would've had the exact same submission as wolfking, apparently :lol
tbh i don't think nearly enough people sent The Call :neverusethis:
it was kind of the obvious highlight of what little neal morse i did listen to for this tho, so
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RJ and Kade, good call with Author of Confusion. :metal That's a great tune and I very much considered sending it, but in the end wasn't sure what Tim would think of the vocal approach in literally all the vocal sections in that song. :lol
The first couple of minutes was enough for me to send it. While the vocals were interesting, surprisingly I thought the whole damn thing was pretty good actually. Not sure what Tim will think but it was cool enough for me to send.
425 did recommend it but I stumbled across it first and his cautious recommendation also was enough to send it.
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RJ and Kade, good call with Author of Confusion. :metal That's a great tune and I very much considered sending it, but in the end wasn't sure what Tim would think of the vocal approach in literally all the vocal sections in that song. :lol
spoilers: it was my """wildcard""" that TAC liked less than my other two :corn
if the call had been banned, i would've had the exact same submission as wolfking, apparently :lol
tbh i don't think nearly enough people sent The Call :neverusethis:
it was kind of the obvious highlight of what little neal morse i did listen to for this tho, so
Ah.....well okay then. :lol
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RJ and Kade, good call with Author of Confusion. :metal That's a great tune and I very much considered sending it, but in the end wasn't sure what Tim would think of the vocal approach in literally all the vocal sections in that song. :lol
The first couple of minutes was enough for me to send it. While the vocals were interesting, surprisingly I thought the whole damn thing was pretty good actually. Not sure what Tim will think but it was cool enough for me to send.
425 did recommend it but I stumbled across it first and his cautious recommendation also was enough to send it.
I was thinking you heard the first 30 seconds and clicked Send. :lol
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That's what did it for me :lol
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yeah that one dropped a few spots in my TAC-rating when the vocals came in :corn not really a fan of the vocals there either tbh
the first few minutes were pretty cool though
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That's what did it for me :lol
:lol
It started out, and I was thinking, Gee this is pretty cool... :corn
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RJ and Kade, good call with Author of Confusion. :metal That's a great tune and I very much considered sending it, but in the end wasn't sure what Tim would think of the vocal approach in literally all the vocal sections in that song. :lol
The first couple of minutes was enough for me to send it. While the vocals were interesting, surprisingly I thought the whole damn thing was pretty good actually. Not sure what Tim will think but it was cool enough for me to send.
425 did recommend it but I stumbled across it first and his cautious recommendation also was enough to send it.
I was thinking you heard the first 30 seconds and clicked Send. :lol
Okay, you got me. :lol
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Ok well it hopefully sounds like I made a good judgement call there then. :lol
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RJ and Kade, good call with Author of Confusion. :metal That's a great tune and I very much considered sending it, but in the end wasn't sure what Tim would think of the vocal approach in literally all the vocal sections in that song. :lol
The first couple of minutes was enough for me to send it. While the vocals were interesting, surprisingly I thought the whole damn thing was pretty good actually. Not sure what Tim will think but it was cool enough for me to send.
425 did recommend it but I stumbled across it first and his cautious recommendation also was enough to send it.
I was thinking you heard the first 30 seconds and clicked Send. :lol
Okay, you got me. :lol
It was fucking obvious and was exactly what I was thinking when I listened to it. :lol
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Holy crap! I totally missed that Into Fire was sent. I cannot wait for that write-up.
TAC, you probably need some backstory on that track if it was not provided.
"Dave says of this writing/recording session, "By far, that's the most fun I've ever had in the studio!". This was also recorded at Kevin's in April of '97 and was written and recorded in 4 hours. Ryo brought the charts (he had written the music that day) and while the rest of the band was cutting the track, I was in the corner scribbling down lines like "Throw yourself upon the flaming pyre". In the 3rd hour Dave, Ryo and I wrote the whole lyric. I remember Dave throwing in critical words when I was stuck like, 'tainted', to which came a resounding "ooohhhh, that's good!" from the rest of us, and the line "bathed in tainted blood" was born. collaboration at it's finest!
Note: that's Ryo on the top background vocal part. While Dave, Ryo and I were doing the backgrounds we were laughing so hard we were crying! Maybe you had to be there..."
Note: "Into Fire" is the result of JVC requesting a Heavy Metal song as a bonus track for the Japanese release of "The Kindness Of Strangers"
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it's annoying the hell out of me that there's both an "In the Fire" and "Into Fire" in his discog, and both were sent in the same round, like c'mon man :lol
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RJ and Kade, good call with Author of Confusion. :metal That's a great tune and I very much considered sending it, but in the end wasn't sure what Tim would think of the vocal approach in literally all the vocal sections in that song. :lol
The first couple of minutes was enough for me to send it. While the vocals were interesting, surprisingly I thought the whole damn thing was pretty good actually. Not sure what Tim will think but it was cool enough for me to send.
425 did recommend it but I stumbled across it first and his cautious recommendation also was enough to send it.
Worth emphasizing the "cautious" part of that, lest I be accused of sending dubious recommendations! :lol I sent wolfking a list of options, including some I regard as safer, and said the following about Author of Confusion: "Author of Confusion is a quirky piece that has a lot of interweaving vocal parts, which IMO make it a risky submission, but it's one I'm really tempted to try."
And, also, I sent it myself! I wanted to use my wildcard to send two songs I thought of as risky for very different reasons along with the safe choice of The Call. So with it being both Cyril's wildcard and mine, we know that on the first listen, The Call, Broken Sky and In the Fire had a lead over Author of Confusion.
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it's annoying the hell out of me that there's both an "In the Fire" and "Into Fire" in his discog, and both were sent in the same round, like c'mon man :lol
That's how I missed Into Fire. It blended together when skimming the list. It wasn't until someone brought it up later in the thread did I realize it was sent. On my second look, I thought you sent it. Confusing, indeed.
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Holy crap! I totally missed that Into Fire was sent. I cannot wait for that write-up.
TAC, you probably need some backstory on that track if it was not provided.
"Dave says of this writing/recording session, "By far, that's the most fun I've ever had in the studio!". This was also recorded at Kevin's in April of '97 and was written and recorded in 4 hours. Ryo brought the charts (he had written the music that day) and while the rest of the band was cutting the track, I was in the corner scribbling down lines like "Throw yourself upon the flaming pyre". In the 3rd hour Dave, Ryo and I wrote the whole lyric. I remember Dave throwing in critical words when I was stuck like, 'tainted', to which came a resounding "ooohhhh, that's good!" from the rest of us, and the line "bathed in tainted blood" was born. collaboration at it's finest! Note: that's Ryo on the top background vocal part. While Dave, Ryo and I were doing the backgrounds we were laughing so hard we were crying! Maybe you had to be there..." Note:
"Into Fire" is the result of JVC requesting a Heavy Metal song as a bonus track for the Japanese release of "The Kindness Of Strangers"
Well, I will give away one First Impression..
WTF? That’s Demon music.[Into Fire]
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it's annoying the hell out of me that there's both an "In the Fire" and "Into Fire" in his discog, and both were sent in the same round, like c'mon man :lol
I'd literally never heard of Into Fire until today. Apparently it's a Japanese bonus track and on the SB equivalent of Cleaning Out the Closet.
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it's annoying the hell out of me that there's both an "In the Fire" and "Into Fire" in his discog, and both were sent in the same round, like c'mon man :lol
The funny thing is, it was sent to me as Into The Fire. I'm confused enough. :lol
I had to ask for clarification.
Plus, a Thoughts II AND a Thoughts V?
Also, a Broken Sky, a Crack The Big Sky, and not only that, but a Weathering Sky to boot.
Not to mention a Flow and a damn Overflow! :lol
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RJ and Kade, good call with Author of Confusion. :metal That's a great tune and I very much considered sending it, but in the end wasn't sure what Tim would think of the vocal approach in literally all the vocal sections in that song. :lol
The first couple of minutes was enough for me to send it. While the vocals were interesting, surprisingly I thought the whole damn thing was pretty good actually. Not sure what Tim will think but it was cool enough for me to send.
425 did recommend it but I stumbled across it first and his cautious recommendation also was enough to send it.
Worth emphasizing the "cautious" part of that, lest I be accused of sending dubious recommendations! :lol I sent wolfking a list of options, including some I regard as safer, and said the following about Author of Confusion: "Author of Confusion is a quirky piece that has a lot of interweaving vocal parts, which IMO make it a risky submission, but it's one I'm really tempted to try."
And, also, I sent it myself! I wanted to use my wildcard to send two songs I thought of as risky for very different reasons along with the safe choice of The Call. So with it being both Cyril's wildcard and mine, we know that on the first listen, The Call, Broken Sky and In the Fire had a lead over Author of Confusion.
I don't blame anyone mate. I still think the whole thing was pretty cool and experimental.
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it's annoying the hell out of me that there's both an "In the Fire" and "Into Fire" in his discog, and both were sent in the same round, like c'mon man :lol
The funny thing is, it was sent to me as Into The Fire. I'm confused enough. :lol
I had to ask for clarification.
Plus, a Thoughts II AND a Thoughts V?
Also, a Broken Sky, a Crack The Big Sky, and not only that, but a Weathering Sky to boot.
Not to mention a Flow and a damn Overflow! :lol
He likes "sky"
I'll add to the "Thoughts" confusion: There's a "Thoughts" and a "Thoughts Part 2" from when Neal was in Spock's Beard. Then Neal did "Thoughts Part 5" on a solo album. Then Spock's Beard did a song called "Afterthoughts" without Neal in the band, but co-written by Neal. But there's no Part 4.
Worth emphasizing the "cautious" part of that, lest I be accused of sending dubious recommendations! :lol I sent wolfking a list of options, including some I regard as safer, and said the following about Author of Confusion: "Author of Confusion is a quirky piece that has a lot of interweaving vocal parts, which IMO make it a risky submission, but it's one I'm really tempted to try."
And, also, I sent it myself! I wanted to use my wildcard to send two songs I thought of as risky for very different reasons along with the safe choice of The Call. So with it being both Cyril's wildcard and mine, we know that on the first listen, The Call, Broken Sky and In the Fire had a lead over Author of Confusion.
I don't blame anyone mate. I still think the whole thing was pretty cool and experimental.
Didn't think you would, just didn't want to leave the impression out there. I like the song a lot, and I'm glad you thought it was cool.
Also, people were talking about no one having the courage to send Cockroach King, so I figured it'd be cool to send the Neal Morse equivalent—didn't know so many people had the same idea, sending both it and some of the Thoughts songs!
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Let's not forget that Thoughts Pt II is from the album V. :lol
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Somehow I think these titles will be a piece of cake compared to the next round.
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What could possibly be confusing about The Willing Well III: Apollo II: The Telling Truth?
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What could possibly be confusing about The Willing Well III: Apollo II: The Telling Truth?
Well, I'd be willing to tell you the truth about Apollo too.
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Somehow I think these titles will be a piece of cake compared to the next round.
So will listening to the music.
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Somehow I think these titles will be a piece of cake compared to the next round.
what's not to love about:
In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3
Cuts Marked in the March of Men
The Camper Velourium II: Backend of Forever
Ten Speend (Of God's Blood & Burial)
The Lying Lies & Dirty Secrets of Miss Erica Court
The Willing Well III: Apollo II: The Telling Truth
The Hound (of Blood and Rank)
The End Complete IV: The Road and the Damned
Made Out of Nothing (All That I Am)
Key Entity Extraction II: Holly Wood the Cracked
The Pavilion (A Long Way Back)
Rise, Naianasha (Cut the Cord)
all perfectly normal song titles
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You missed The End Complete III: The End Complete
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The End Complete III: The End Complete, Part 2: The Willing Well V: The End Complete (Reprise)
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1st album: Has Second in the title
2nd abum: Has 3 in the title
3rd album: Has IV in the title
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the 3rd and 4th album are both Part IV, and the fifth album is Part I
the sixth and seventh albums are a two-part prequel to Part I
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Tim, next round.
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This round..
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Nah..just kidding.
I finally made it through all of the tracks. That's a lot of damn music. Including the ImpOmnipotent One's , it's 27 songs at over 3 and a half hours.
I'll compile First Impressions when I get a chance, but I have to put this down for a bit. My wife will be home shortly and we're getting our tree.
But overall, I have to say that this was pretty much what I expected. Real pleasant and finely crafted music. Some of it had some surprising punch to it.
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Just imagine if a couple people had the stones to send you a REAL epic! You could be at 4.5-5 hours easy.
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Just imagine if a couple people had the stones to send you a REAL epic! You could be at 4.5-5 hours easy.
I considered sending World Without End and The Great Nothing, but that would have been a bad idea. :lol
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That would've been a world of nothing without end.
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Better than a Kid Rock themed round. Lol
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MY NAME IIIIISSSSSSS KIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDD!!!!!
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Oh fuck that completely!
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:lol
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Oh fuck that completely!
Yeah, I wouldn't be signing up to participate in that one. :lol
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listening to "Into Fire" for the first time. Wow! Just wow! If I had to guess who was singing that I'd never in a million years have guess Neal Morse. Neal should either open or close every show with this song.
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listening to "Into Fire" for the first time. Wow! Just wow! If I had to guess who was singing that I'd never in a million years have guess Neal Morse. Neal should either open or close every show with this song.
I'm literally listening to it RIGHT NOW. :lol
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So... Into Fire or Viper King??
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So... Into Fire or Viper King??
Into Fire. Not even close. Holy crap that was amazing. My '80's high school self would have been all over that song. And my '20's middle aged self is loving that song. Neal needs to rejoin Spock's and do a whole album of that style. That would confuse so many people. How awesome would that be?
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Oh fuck that completely!
Fuck that completely indeed. I lived in Michigan when Kid Rock, Eminem, and ICP all broke into the big time, and it was fucking awful. Eminem clearly had skills, but fuck, Bawittaba or whatever the fuck it is called, was on every radio station almost all the time, and every wannabe tough guy white boy was playing that album nonstop.
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So... Into Fire or Viper King??
Into Fire. Not even close. Holy crap that was amazing. My '80's high school self would have been all over that song. And my '20's middle aged self is loving that song. Neal needs to rejoin Spock's and do a whole album of that style. That would confuse so many people. How awesome would that be?
And don't forget the tidbit that I posted where they wrote and recorded the whole thing in 4 hours! Get Dave, Ryo, NDV and Neal to do a whole album. Not sure Al would be in, but I bet Eric would gladly step in for the fun.
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Into Fire actually sounds like something Deep Purple would have done.
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Into Fire actually sounds like something Deep Purple would have done.
I hear a ton of Deep Purple in these songs. Deep Purple and The Beatles.
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I read about them on their 3rd album in a magazine and went out and bought their discography right away.
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I read about them on their 3rd album in a magazine and went out and bought their discography right away.
The Beatles?
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Lol. No. Spock's Beard.
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I read about them on their 3rd album in a magazine and went out and bought their discography right away.
The Kindness of Strangers is the Spock’s album that, to me, is their most consistent, and is usually the album I go to if I want to listen them.
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where's
worst first impressions? :corn
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I read about them on their 3rd album in a magazine and went out and bought their discography right away.
The Kindness of Strangers is the Spock’s album that, to me, is their most consistent, and is usually the album I go to if I want to listen them.
Same. I wish the production were better on it, but the songs are all strong and it doesn’t have anything that I skip, whereas most of the others tend to have at least one song I don’t love.
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where's worst first impressions? :corn
I'm going out for a few hours, and I'll post them this evening when I get back.
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I read about them on their 3rd album in a magazine and went out and bought their discography right away.
"Day for Nightmare Cinema Show Me the Way to Get Back Home again" was what prompted me to listen to Day for Night. By the following week, I'd had their discography (up to that point) as well.
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I saw SB open for DT on the SFAM tour. They were really fun to watch and the music was good too. Then I bought V, liked it, then I bought the rest.
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I saw SB open for DT on the SFAM tour. They were really fun to watch and the music was good too. Then I bought V, liked it, then I bought the rest.
[/quot
Dixie Dregs for me.
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First Impressions
Weathering Sky
Seemingly Sincere
Time Changer
I Am Your Father
Another Story To Tell
The Good Don't Last(Spock’s Beard)
The Call
Do It Again
Harm’s Way (Spock’s Beard)
Devil’s Got My Throat (Spock’s Beard)
Freedom Song
Thoughts Pt V
In The Fire
Author Of Confusion
Entrance
Crack The Big Sky (Spock’s Beard)
Overflow
This was pretty rocking and I loved the Deep Purple-ish outro.
Starts off as Styx, ends as DT. I don’t remember the middle.
You mean this isn’t a Deep Purple cover?
This started and I thought I was in a Disney song.[The Light (Spock’s Beard)]
This is easy on the ears, but it reminds me of latter day Rush.[Waste Away(Spock’s Beard)]
This song was quite active. It’ll need at least another listen.
Great closing solo.[My Shoes Revisited(Spock’s Beard)]
Those are some cheesy ass keyboards.[Bird On A Wire]
Kind of a heavy Beatles tune. Not into the Beatles though.
I liked how beefy this was in the beginning and the end, but it was a bit light in the middle.
That was a hell of a lot crammed into this relatively short song.[Thoughts Pt II (Spock’s Beard)]
This song was sneaky good. I think.
I have no idea why this song had to be this long.[Flow (Spock’s Beard)]
This gave me a Dire Straits feel, which is extremely ironic.
I expect this to be a grower. It better be.
This song kind of rocks but I don’t remember this being a Beach Boys round.
This is a nice classy song. Not sure how it’ll end up though.
Who’s this, Hall & Oates?
I swear that’s a JP solo in this.[Broken Sky/Long Day (Reprise)]
It’s long, but it keeps moving through its different sections.[At The End Of The Day (Spock’s Beard)]
Strong opening and ends really strong. It’s the 8 minutes in between that could use some help.
Wow, that is heavy.
This song took me about 4 minutes to fully engage.
WTF? That’s Demon music.[Into Fire]
This ends really strong. Took a while to get there though.
“Music has shown her the way. She lives today”
I'm sure these are all pretty vague. Just pick a song and 3 or 4 impressions it might be, and I'll award it.
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I swear that’s a JP solo in this.
Definitely one of the Neal Morse Band songs. :lol
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Great closing solo is Flow
and hell of a lot crammed into short song could be Thoughts Pt. II
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Great closing solo is Flow
and hell of a lot crammed into short song could be Thoughts Pt. II
Great closing solo is My Shoes Revisited.
I’m afraid Flow is this one:
Strong opening and ends really strong. It’s the 8 minutes in between that could use some help.
Or this one:
I have no idea why this song had to be this long.
:corn
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Ariich, Kwyjibo, HOF....nice job!
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I think cheesy keyboards is Bird on a Wire—at least, that's why I decided not to send it pretty early on.
Long but keeps moving through different sections could be The Light.
Edit: Yeah, Eric definitely channels JP a lot, including on Broken Sky.
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Okay, but Flow still has a great closing solo :D
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I think cheesy keyboards is Bird on a Wire—at least, that's why I decided not to send it pretty early on.
Long but keeps moving through different sections could be The Light.
Yes and no.
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Okay, but Flow still has a great closing solo :D
Yeah it does! Al is all over that track really.
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Disney, err... Freedom Song.
Knowing your love for Disney, this could be a good thing for His Omnipotence.
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Disney, err... Freedom Song.
Knowing your love for Disney, this could be a good thing for His Omnipotence.
Wrong! But close..
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Two listens through. Have scratched together a rough ranking. I usually start that on the second listen though it does remain quite fluid. Nothing is set in stone at all at this point. But I think it's fair that a couple of tiers of songs have emerged.
And I must be the only fogey sitting at home doing nothing on a Saturday night because the First Impression guesses have been extremely slow tonight.
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I liked how beefy this was in the beginning and the end, but it was a bit light in the middle.
Is this for The Light? I'm guessing no, but you seemed to put an obvious clue in there.
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I liked how beefy this was in the beginning and the end, but it was a bit light in the middle.
Is this for The Light? I'm guessing no, but you seemed to put an obvious clue in there.
It's not. I usually don't put clues like that in my impressions.
But it is one of the most sent sngs.
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Curious if this is Waste Away (perhaps on account of the bass tone?):
This is easy on the ears, but it reminds me of latter day Rush.
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Ahem.
It’s long, but it keeps moving through its different sections
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Curious if this is Waste Away (perhaps on account of the bass tone?):
This is easy on the ears, but it reminds me of latter day Rush.
You're good, Haironfire!
Ahem.
It’s long, but it keeps moving through its different sections
Where you guys been all night? :lol
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It’s long, but it keeps moving through its different sections.
This is probably The Light
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I brewed a day. I'm gassed! Ready for bed!
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I'm going to stop guessing now.
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It’s long, but it keeps moving through its different sections.
This is probably The Light
Kingshmegland got it above you.
But I'll give you The Light anyway.
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Okay one more.
Good don't last the Dire Straits one? Ironic because Dire Straits didn't last.
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Okay one more.
Good don't last the Dire Straits one? Ironic because Dire Straits didn't last.
Hah.. No. Actually there is a clue in that one, but it has to do with who sent it, as I know they're a big Dire Straits fan.
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dude i barely even remember what the two songs i sent you sound like do you think i could guess impressions from how many songs there are this round that i've never even heard of :lol
the call was long and proggy and into the fire was like a groovy bass driven thing with like fifteen solos that's all i got
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I barely remember what two songs you sent me too. :lol
:corn
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you are not gonna hurt my feelings by giving two songs i pulled out of the ether bad scores :hat
however if you give my coheed songs bad scores i -will- cry
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Took about 4 minutes to fully engage could be Seemingly Sincere
and the Dire Straits one is Overflow?
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Took about 4 minutes to fully engage could be Seemingly Sincere
Actually, it takes about 5 minutes! :lol
I just made the playlist of what I have (only missing 3 songs), so I'll offer up some more guesses later today.
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Strong opening and ends really strong. It’s the 8 minutes in between that could use some help. - Crack the Big Sky?
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Strong opening and ends really strong. It’s the 8 minutes in between that could use some help. - Crack the Big Sky?
Possibly... though my thought is At The End of the Day (edit... except that's already been identified). If not CtBS, then perhaps Harm's Way - though the outro is nothing too special (imo).
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My second?
This song was quite active. It’ll need at least another listen
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Starts off as Styx, ends as DT. I don’t remember the middle.
- Has to be The Call
This song kind of rocks but I don’t remember this being a Beach Boys round.
- This is the only other description I can think fits Freedom Song
I liked how beefy this was in the beginning and the end, but it was a bit light in the middle.
- Devil's Got My Throat
Kind of a heavy Beatles tune. Not into the Beatles though.
- Do It All Again
Music has shown her the way. She lives today
- I had to Google what lyrics this was from, and given that ... I would've expected Thoughts, but that wasn't submitted. Thoughts Part V?
Who’s this, Hall & Oates?
- Has to be Another Story To Tell
That's all I got for now.
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I'm not sure I would call Freedom song rocking, but I got no better guess.
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First Impressions
Time Changer
The Good Don't Last(Spock’s Beard)
Do It Again
Freedom Song
In The Fire
Author Of Confusion
Entrance
This was pretty rocking and I loved the Deep Purple-ish outro.
Starts off as Styx, ends as DT. I don’t remember the middle.[The Call]
You mean this isn’t a Deep Purple cover?[Devil’s Got My Throat (Spock’s Beard)]
This started and I thought I was in a Disney song.[The Light (Spock’s Beard)]
This is easy on the ears, but it reminds me of latter day Rush.[Waste Away(Spock’s Beard)]
This song was quite active. It’ll need at least another listen.[Thoughts Pt V]
Great closing solo.[My Shoes Revisited(Spock’s Beard)]
Those are some cheesy ass keyboards.[Bird On A Wire]
Kind of a heavy Beatles tune. Not into the Beatles though.[Weathering Sky]
I liked how beefy this was in the beginning and the end, but it was a bit light in the middle.
That was a hell of a lot crammed into this relatively short song.[Thoughts Pt II (Spock’s Beard)]
This song was sneaky good. I think.
I have no idea why this song had to be this long.[Flow (Spock’s Beard)]
This gave me a Dire Straits feel, which is extremely ironic.[Overflow]
I expect this to be a grower. It better be.
This song kind of rocks but I don’t remember this being a Beach Boys round.
This is a nice classy song. Not sure how it’ll end up though.
Who’s this, Hall & Oates?[Another Story To Tell]
I swear that’s a JP solo in this.[Broken Sky/Long Day (Reprise)]
It’s long, but it keeps moving through its different sections.[At The End Of The Day (Spock’s Beard)]
Strong opening and ends really strong. It’s the 8 minutes in between that could use some help.[Crack The Big Sky (Spock’s Beard)]
Wow, that is heavy.[I Am Your Father]
This song took me about 4 minutes to fully engage.[Harm’s Way (Spock’s Beard)]
WTF? That’s Demon music.[Into Fire]
This ends really strong. Took a while to get there though.[Seemingly Sincere]
“Music has shown her the way. She lives today”
I'm sure these are all pretty vague. Just pick a song and 3 or 4 impressions it might be, and I'll award it.
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Took about 4 minutes to fully engage could be Seemingly Sincere
and the Dire Straits one is Overflow?
Yes on Overflow and very close but not SS.
Strong opening and ends really strong. It’s the 8 minutes in between that could use some help. - Crack the Big Sky?
Yes!
My second?
This song was quite active. It’ll need at least another listen
No!
I'm not sure I would call Freedom song rocking, but I got no better guess.
Neither would I! ;D
Starts off as Styx, ends as DT. I don’t remember the middle.
- Has to be The Call
This song kind of rocks but I don’t remember this being a Beach Boys round.
- This is the only other description I can think fits Freedom Song
I liked how beefy this was in the beginning and the end, but it was a bit light in the middle.
- Devil's Got My Throat
Kind of a heavy Beatles tune. Not into the Beatles though.
- Do It All Again
Music has shown her the way. She lives today
- I had to Google what lyrics this was from, and given that ... I would've expected Thoughts, but that wasn't submitted. Thoughts Part V?
Who’s this, Hall & Oates?
- Has to be Another Story To Tell
That's all I got for now.
YNNNNY!
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This song kind of rocks but I don’t remember this being a Beach Boys round.
This one for Thoughts Pt V?
If not then this one:
Wow, that is heavy.
which could also be Devil's Got my Throat, maybe, or In the Fire
This song was quite active. It’ll need at least another listen.
This one could be In the Fire, or Thoughts V as well
:lol
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You got one out your five guesses right. ;D
Two other hints,,
The Disney remark only refers to the very beginning of the songs, and
The "heavy" remark is a trick clue.
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You got one out your five guesses right. ;D
Two other hints,,
The Disney remark only refers to the very beginning of the songs, and
The "heavy" remark is a trick clue.
You already identified Disney as The Light??
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This is a nice classy song. Not sure how it’ll end up though. - Weathering The Sky?
As I am starring at this right now, I can't wait for the next round.
(https://i.imgur.com/yyjdCCn.jpg)
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Tim can!
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Wow, that is heavy.
- Overflow
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You mean this isn’t a Deep Purple cover?
- Devil's Got My Throat
Kind of a heavy Beatles tune. Not into the Beatles though.
- Weathering Sky
This was pretty rocking and I loved the Deep Purple-ish outro.
This ends really strong. Took a while to get there though.
- One is In The Fire; the other is Harm's Way
This song took me about 4 minutes to fully engage.
- If it's not Seemingly Sincere, then I'd guess it's Entrance
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You mean this isn’t a Deep Purple cover?
- Devil's Got My Throat
Kind of a heavy Beatles tune. Not into the Beatles though.
- Weathering Sky
This ends really strong. Took a while to get there though.
is Harm's Way
This song took me about 4 minutes to fully engage.
- it's Seemingly Sincere,
Yes and yes...and swap the second two songs, which more or less have the same impression.
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"Wow, that is heavy" is Author of Confusion
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"Wow, that is heavy" is Author of Confusion
Nope.
The "heavy" remark is a trick clue.
;D
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Well, then maybe it’s ‘I am Your Father’
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Well, then maybe it’s ‘I am Your Father’
Well, then maybe it is!
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Well, then maybe it’s ‘I am Your Father’
Well, then maybe it is!
I was going off of TAC being a fan of the songs that tell a story in the UFO thread. I orginally was going to send Broken Homes, but when my score tanked I decided to go with the song that I prefer off the album. Both are sad songs, but I Am Your Father is so powerful.
Side note: Neal wrote this song in his pre-Beard days when he had another band. He actually invited all of the members of that band to perform on the version he recorded for this album. Pretty cool backstory.
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Are those songs from a concept album?
I was going off of TAC being a fan of the songs that tell a story in the UFO thread.
:metal
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You're not gonna get more epic story-telling than Coheed & Cambria.
But I get the sense that lyrical content means diddly to TAC if he hates the music. :biggrin:
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Are those songs from a concept album?
I was going off of TAC being a fan of the songs that tell a story in the UFO thread.
:metal
No concept on It's Not Too Late (maybe a loose one based on the quote I just found). It was a bunch of older songs that Neal had laying around and he finally decided to record them. Just so happened that many were not the happiest. Ah, taken right from his website:
"It's Not Too Late" is a fine collection of songs about loss and renewal.
Broken Homes is pretty bleak and self-explanatory. Leah is about a mother abandoning her young daughter. You get the picture.
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You're not gonna get more epic story-telling than Coheed & Cambria.
But I get the sense that lyrical content means diddly to TAC if he hates the music. :biggrin:
It's hard to tell, really. In a vacuum of a roulette round, you never know what can happen.
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You're not gonna get more epic story-telling than Coheed & Cambria.
But I get the sense that lyrical content means diddly to TAC if he hates the music. :biggrin:
It's hard to tell, really. In a vacuum of a roulette round, you never know what can happen.
I wish I had the balls to send tac some of Coheed's softer songs, but that would be a risky move.
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Are those songs from a concept album?
I was going off of TAC being a fan of the songs that tell a story in the UFO thread.
:metal
No concept on It's Not Too Late (maybe a loose one based on the quote I just found). It was a bunch of older songs that Neal had laying around and he finally decided to record them. Just so happened that many were not the happiest. Ah, taken right from his website:
"It's Not Too Late" is a fine collection of songs about loss and renewal.
Broken Homes is pretty bleak and self-explanatory. Leah is about a mother abandoning her young daughter. You get the picture.
I wanted to send The Wind + The Rain off that one. I really like those first two solo albums (the first one especially is more or less a Spock’s Beard album).
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You're not gonna get more epic story-telling than Coheed & Cambria.
But I get the sense that lyrical content means diddly to TAC if he hates the music. :biggrin:
It's hard to tell, really. In a vacuum of a roulette round, you never know what can happen.
I wish I had the balls to send tac some of Coheed's softer songs, but that would be a risky move.
I'm a metal fan, but sending me the heaviest track usually doesn't work either.
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First Impressions
This was pretty rocking and I loved the Deep Purple-ish outro.[In The Fire]
Starts off as Styx, ends as DT. I don’t remember the middle.[The Call]
You mean this isn’t a Deep Purple cover?[Devil’s Got My Throat (Spock’s Beard)]
This started and I thought I was in a Disney song.[The Light (Spock’s Beard)]
This is easy on the ears, but it reminds me of latter day Rush.[Waste Away(Spock’s Beard)]
This song was quite active. It’ll need at least another listen.[Thoughts Pt V]
Great closing solo.[My Shoes Revisited(Spock’s Beard)]
Those are some cheesy ass keyboards.[Bird On A Wire]
Kind of a heavy Beatles tune. Not into the Beatles though.[Weathering Sky]
I liked how beefy this was in the beginning and the end, but it was a bit light in the middle.[Author Of Confusion]
That was a hell of a lot crammed into this relatively short song.[Thoughts Pt II (Spock’s Beard)]
This song was sneaky good. I think.[Entrance]
I have no idea why this song had to be this long.[Flow (Spock’s Beard)]
This gave me a Dire Straits feel, which is extremely ironic.[Overflow]
I expect this to be a grower. It better be.[Do It Again]
This song kind of rocks but I don’t remember this being a Beach Boys round.[Time Changer]
This is a nice classy song. Not sure how it’ll end up though. [The Good Don't Last(Spock’s Beard)]
Who’s this, Hall & Oates?[Another Story To Tell]
I swear that’s a JP solo in this.[Broken Sky/Long Day (Reprise)]
It’s long, but it keeps moving through its different sections.[At The End Of The Day (Spock’s Beard)]
Strong opening and ends really strong. It’s the 8 minutes in between that could use some help.[Crack The Big Sky (Spock’s Beard)]
Wow, that is heavy.[I Am Your Father]
This song took me about 4 minutes to fully engage.[Harm’s Way (Spock’s Beard)]
WTF? That’s Demon music.[Into Fire]
This ends really strong. Took a while to get there though.[Seemingly Sincere]
“Music has shown her the way. She lives today”[Freedom Song]
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So..
Finishing up third listens..
The average scores per round so far:
Devin Townsend:8.00
Haken: 7.80
BTBAM:7.75
I expect this round to have the highest average score. Way more 8's than 7's I think. Tons of great stuff here. We'll see. I begin my fourth listens tomorrow and I'll be scratching out writeups as I go. Hopefully I can bang out 10 or so per day for the next three days.
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Actually shocking to hear but it makes me very happy!
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waiting in anticipation to squeak out my highest score of the roulette with two songs i've listened to like one and a half times
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waiting in anticipation to squeak out my highest score of the roulette with two songs i've listened to like one and a half times
It's quite likely.. :corn
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Actually shocking to hear but it makes me very happy!
Honestly, I’m not shocked at all. There’s lots of great stuff in Neal’s musical exicon, and Tim does have an open mind for great stuff - no matter what the genre or style.
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Banged out 9 writeups this afternoon.
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Like a teenager.
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I must say that some of the keyboard sounds in this playlist sound like they come from one of these..
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So I was just listening to Entrance, and Neal's vocal reminded me a bit of Matt Smith. Knowing their religious styled music, I thought it would be awesome if they worked together.
And then I remembered...
They did!! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpHmSdVAzKg)
..along with the great Daniel Heiman! :metal
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So I was just listening to Entrance, and Neal's vocal reminded me a bit of Matt Smith. Knowing their religious styled music, I thought it would be awesome if they worked together.
And then I remembered...
They did!! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpHmSdVAzKg)
..along with the great Daniel Heiman! :metal
You didn’t know about this one??
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Of course I did, fool. I bought it immediately and pimped the hell out of it. I haven't listened to it or watched the video in a while, and I had literally forgot about Neal Morse's involvement in it. His vocal on Entrance made me think of Matt Smith's lower register, and I was thinking it would be great if they could work together..Then I remembered!
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Of course I did, fool. I bought it immediately and pimped the hell out of it. I haven't listened to it or watched the video in a while, and I had literally forgot about Neal Morse's involvement in it. His vocal on Entrance made me think of Matt Smith's lower register, and I was thinking it would be great if they could work together..Then I remembered!
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/400x/39081391.jpg)
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5 more songs to writeup, and I have to admit..my ears are getting tired. :lol
One band that I've been constantly thinking of while listening is Shooting Star. And early 80's band that some of the fogeys might remember. They were kind of a Kansas "Lite", but I really loved them.
@Ariich, did I send them to you in the Fogey Roulette? If I didn't, I had them ready.
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5 more songs to writeup, and I have to admit..my ears are getting tired. :lol
One band that I've been constantly thinking of while listening is Shooting Star. And early 80's band that some of the fogeys might remember. They were kind of a Kansas "Lite", but I really loved them.
@Ariich, did I send them to you in the Fogey Roulette? If I didn't, I had them ready.
Nah you didn't, haven't heard of them but keep them in the bank for next roulette! :P
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:corn :corn :corn
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I dunno what you're talking about. I spun that playlist yesterday, and it's magnificent.
Everyone - good job!
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Welp....guess I better start digging into C&C
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Welp....guess I better start digging into C&C Music Factory
Don't make this mistake.
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Welp....guess I better start digging into C&C
I have been putting it off as long as possible.
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Welp....guess I better start digging into C&C Music Factory
Don't make this mistake.
It's invariably better on the ears.
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revenge is sweet :hat
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Welp....guess I better start digging into C&C
You still have a couple of days. I still have to fine tune the rankings and assign scores. Then I have to format the results and standings posts. So Morsulsts are still on pace for Thursday.
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I dunno what you're talking about. I spun that playlist yesterday, and it's magnificent.
Everyone - good job!
I'm worn out, honestly. This round was pleasant but somehow it turned on me. :lol It's a huge amount of songs to get through in one clip. I liked a ton of this, but I'm not sure I loved much of it. It could still be a fairly high scoring round though. I'm going to start on that tonight.
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I'm worn out, honestly. This round was pleasant but somehow it turned on me. :lol It's a huge amount of songs to get through in one clip. I liked a ton of this, but I'm not sure I loved much of it. It could still be a fairly high scoring round though. I'm going to start on that tonight.
He does have a lot of long songs so it was a lengthy playlist.
Other than maybe Opeth, I'd have thought the remaining rounds probably won't be as long. But I guess that might depend on the extent of duplicate entries. (EDIT: Actually I guess PT could potentially be long as well but I imagine people wouldn't think to send you most of their long songs)
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This was the longest, but they've all been running about 3 hours. But for some reason, the Devin and Haken three hours went by quicker that the BTBAM and NM three hours.
I do feel like I got a fair bit of variety with these songs, but I feel like I tried to like them more than I actually do. I don't know for sure.
I don't mean to convey that I'm down on them, though I'm sure it's coming across that way.
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I predict you'll be in a musically induced coma from the PT/SW round.
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If the PT/SW round goes the way I think it will he might only have like 10 songs to sort through at most
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I wonder if someone will send Anesthetize :corn
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If the PT/SW round goes the way I think it will he might only have like 10 songs to sort through at most
That's still enough to make me want to hang myself.
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If the PT/SW round goes the way I think it will he might only have like 10 songs to sort through at most
Perfect!
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I wonder if someone will send Anesthetize :corn
Speaking of C&C Music Factory:
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How 'bout we don't speak of them? :lol
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I wonder if someone will send Anesthetize :corn
I'm tempted, it's such a tremendous track. Bigger question is how many send Arriving Somewhere but not HERE.
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No one's sending that one because Deadwing's banned.
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I wonder if someone will send Anesthetize :corn
I'm tempted, it's such a tremendous track. Bigger question is how many send Arriving Somewhere but not HERE.
I believe that's banned. Deadwing is banned. I do remember liking that song though.
EDIT: what 425 said.
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Not from Deadwing.
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I wonder if someone will send Anesthetize :corn
I'm tempted, it's such a tremendous track.
What do you got to lose, man? :lol If I sat at the bottom of the standings, I'd torture the host too. :lol
Not from Deadwing.
Well, it's still banned. I already said I liked it. I think the kid that made me a copy of Deadwing made me a PT mix CD. I definitely remember liking that one too.
@ Cyril, I think that's why I probably thought Blackest Eyes was banned.
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TIM: Only Deadwing not allowed.
JOE: Not on Deadwing
TIM: You silly mortal.
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Arriving Somewhere But Not Here definitely is on Deadwing.
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Talking about Anesthetize.
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YOU'RE banned from Deadwing.
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Talking about Anesthetize.
Okay, but Arriving Somewhere But Not Here is the one TAC was saying is banned, I believe.
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I think Arriving Somewhere But Not Here might be banned, guys.
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Joe, no wonder you can't spell. It's cuz you can't read. Follow the thread! :lol
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What? Wait? It's on Deadwing? :lol
Joe, no wonder you can't spell. It's cuz you can't read. Follow the thread! :lol
Why don't you have a below average beer bub. :lol
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Why don't you listen to your below average Rush albums?
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It's banned?
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You don't say.
(https://i.postimg.cc/vmQKCtfv/Screenshot-20211130-213058-Google.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w1GFmJWt)
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Is Rush banned in the Porcupine Tree round?
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Is Rush banned in the Porcupine Tree round?
From Moving Pictures on. :lol
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Oh I don't know. Let's just ask bestalbumsever.com. Apparently it's the be all end all of Rush nerd-dom.
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That's a site? :lol
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It's a shite!
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:lol
Well, even Superman has his weaknesses.
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So everything not on Deadwing is not banned, right?
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Deadwing is amazing. Easily my favourite from PT but I'm only a very casual fan.
Although I think I'm sending Arriving Somewhere but not Here. That's a great song.
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Deadwing is amazing. Easily my favourite from PT but I'm only a very casual fan.
Although I think I'm sending Arriving Somewhere but not Here. That's a great song.
you can't send deadwing, it's from arriving somewhere but not here
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Deadwing is amazing. Easily my favourite from PT but I'm only a very casual fan.
Although I think I'm sending Arriving Somewhere but not Here. That's a great song.
you can't send deadwing, it's from arriving somewhere but not here
Ah okay. I'll send Arriving But Not Here then. That song is killer.
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What's all this talk about Arriving Somewhere But Not Here? I thought Deadwing was banned.
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Somewing But Arriving from Deadwhere is banned
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Deadwing is amazing. Easily my favourite from PT but I'm only a very casual fan.
Although I think I'm sending Arriving Somewhere but not Here. That's a great song.
you can't send deadwing, it's from arriving somewhere but not here
Ah okay. I'll send Arriving But Not Here then. That song is killer.
:lol
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I wonder where exactly all those people arrive, that arrive somewhere but not here?
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I wonder where exactly all those people arrive, that arrive somewhere but not here?
Who knows, but it ain't here.
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If the PT/SW round goes the way I think it will he might only have like 10 songs to sort through at most
That's a HUGE call. I'd bet there will be way more than 10.
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I wonder where exactly all those people arrive, that arrive somewhere but not here?
in deadwing, kansas
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Instead of actually listening to him, can I send something that Wilson produced or remixed? :) :) :)
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What's funny about this roulette is that it is still all new and random to me, so you could take the biggest Neal Morse fan, and they could easily get a much worse score than someone who just spitballed a couple of tracks.
:corn
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:corn
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Instead of actually listening to him, can I send something that Wilson produced or remixed? :) :) :)
Only in the Opeth round!
But I do think Wilson is a better producer/mixer than songwriter/performer. Going through both PT and solo stuff for this roulette was a reminder of that.
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Double-down and send Bleak in the Opeth round. Steven sings the chorus on that track.
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Double-down and send Bleak in the Opeth round. Steven sings the chorus on that track.
I honestly never noticed that. :lol He doesn't sound too different from Mikael there, especially with the wall of sound going on.
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Double-down and send Bleak in the Opeth round. Steven sings the chorus on that track.
I honestly never noticed that. :lol He doesn't sound too different from Mikael there, especially with the wall of sound going on.
You're not the first I turned on to that fact. Steven sings the main line and then Mikael does the callback or whatever you want to call it. Then they harmonize together eventually.
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Double-down and send Bleak in the Opeth round. Steven sings the chorus on that track.
I honestly never noticed that. :lol He doesn't sound too different from Mikael there, especially with the wall of sound going on.
Fuck I never noticed that either. Mind = Blown!
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Double-down and send Bleak in the Opeth round. Steven sings the chorus on that track.
I honestly never noticed that. :lol He doesn't sound too different from Mikael there, especially with the wall of sound going on.
Fuck I never noticed that either. Mind = Blown!
ME EITHER (cuz i don't listen to anything by either band)
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Did this years ago at the MP forum. It blew people's minds then too. I caught it immediately when I heard it.
SW: Devious movements in your eyes
MA: Moved me from relief
SW: Breath comes out white clouds with your lies
MA: And filters through me
Both:
You're close to the final word
You're staring right past me in dismay
A liquid seeps from your chest
MA: And drains me away
SW: Mist ripples round your thin white neck
MA: And draws me a line
SW: Cold fingers mark this dying wreck
MA: This moment is mine
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Jesus! I'll listen along with that tonight.
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Jesus! I'll listen along with that tonight.
I won’t. ;D
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Jesus! I'll listen along with that tonight.
I won’t. ;D
But I can almost guarantee you will in the Opeth round! :neverusethis:
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I'm surprised so many people didn't notice that. Stood out to me the very first time I listened to Blackwater Park as clearly SW.
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I'm surprised so many people didn't notice that. Stood out to me the very first time I listened to Blackwater Park as clearly SW.
I got BWP (in 2001) a few years before I'd even heard of PT or Wilson (around the time of Deadwing).
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Jesus! I'll listen along with that tonight.
I won’t. ;D
But I can almost guarantee you will in the Opeth round! :neverusethis:
I -can- guarantee he will :corn
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Bleak is an awesome song so yeah if nobody sends it that'd be a massive shame.
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To be clear I am saying i did send it, almost a month ago :lol
My other Opeth pick is very obvious too but when you ban their best album this is what happens
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So the scores are tallied.
Scores by round:
Devin Townsend:8.0
Haken:7.8
BTBAM:7.75
Neal Morse:7.95
Also, I will share one result tonight!
I will point out that 13 of you are above this score and 4 of you are below it.
Omnipotent One
Seemingly Sincere...8.0
This ends really strong. Took a while to get there though.
The beginning of this reminded me of Slade’s Keep Your Hands Off My Power Supply.
This stays pretty steady for the first few minutes. It feels like it’s building though. The guitar at 5:03 brings this up a bit. The next step up is at 7:50 as the previous section runs out. This song is too long though, and it feels like it’s one section over and over again.
Freedom Song...7.3
“Music has shown her the way. She lives today”
Interesting song from the Omnipotent One. I would have to think that there were about 100 better songs. Maybe he’s the Impotent One..
8.0+7.3=15.3/2=7.65
I'm sure he's thinking...
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Says the guy that gave an Enya song a perfect 10.
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I figured Freedom Song was not going to be a TAC hit. :lol I say if you're going to send a song in that style, go big and send Sing It High.
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I'm surprised so many people didn't notice that. Stood out to me the very first time I listened to Blackwater Park as clearly SW.
This, it seemed so obvious to me, but then I've heard a lot of Porcupine Tree before discovering Opeth.
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re: the Bleak discussion; I knew it, have known for years. I knew Blackwater Park before I had ever heard a single Porcupine Tree song though, so it was only after I discovered PT that I thought.. wait a minute, that's the same singer! And indeed it was :)
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Like I said, when a song by Enya scores 10/10, you never know what might just 'click'. Freedom Song can be an ear worm ... clearly not a good one in this case.
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Like I said, when a song by Enya scores 10/10, you never know what might just 'click'. Freedom Song can be an ear worm ... clearly not a good one in this case.
Quit wining!
It’s not like you sent it…..
……or did you?
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Quit wining!
I'm not sure if I'm whining, or winning... where exactly is the typo in that word? :lol
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Quit wining!
I'm not sure if I'm whining, or winning... where exactly is the typo in that word? :lol
I thought it was winking. ;)
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I've infected Tim.
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Quit wining!
I'm not sure if I'm whining, or winning... where exactly is the typo in that word? :lol
Add an H for hoser.
I've infected Tim.
Nope. I got mah boostah!
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:lol
Me too so.........
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Morsults!
Romdrums
Harm’s Way (Spock’s Beard)....8.2
This song took me about 4 minutes to fully engage.
After a brief intro, I liked the first verses. Ah, is this the Medicate section from Octavarium? There’s a classy solo that starts around 4:00. These first few minutes are a slow build I think. After a soft spot, the song really comes alive at 6:49. I must say that the chorus is kind of a dud in this song. It’s feels like a mood killer in a way. I generally like the song though.
Waste Away(Spock’s Beard)....7.4
This is easy on the ears, but it reminds me of latter day Rush.
This is a fairly to the point song. Nothing wrong with that, but I think there are way more interesting songs in this round. I hear some latter day Rush in this..Test For Echo era maybe. Not my favorite vocal either.
8.2+7.4=15.6/2=7.8
Stadler
Weathering Sky....7.3
Kind of a heavy Beatles tune. Not into the Beatles though.
I honestly don’t have a lot to say about this song. It’s peasant enough and to the point.
Bird On A Wire.....7.8
Those are some cheesy ass keyboards.
Those keyboards at the beginning. Wow..what sound is that? The “I have a fire” part feels so 80’s to me. This reminds me a little of Shooting Star, and that’s not a bad thing. I like whole whole mid section going from the key solo to the guitar solo. Nice flutter at 4:44 to extend the section. Very cool. Ultimately, this song is a bit keyboard heavy for me, but that instrumental section is fantastic.
7.3+7.8=15.1/2=7.55
Buddy
The Call....8.3
Starts off as Styx, ends as DT. I don’t remember the middle.
After the Styx style intro, there’s a great JP solo again in the beginning. The verse/chorus is pretty unexciting, but things kick it up at 4:06. Nice vocal section at 4:52. Cool bass part and awesome MP drum fill. This whole instrumental section is excellent. Great solos all the way around. Instrumentally, I like long sections, but the vocal sections in this song are fairy weak, and it makes the song feel long.
Bird On A Wire...7.8
Those are some cheesy ass keyboards.
Those keyboards at the beginning. Wow..what sound is that? The “I have a fire” part feels so 80’s to me. This reminds me a little of Shooting Star, and that’s not a bad thing. I like whole whole mid section going from the key solo to the guitar solo. Nice flutter at 4:44 to extend the section. Very cool. Ultimately, this song is a bit keyboard heavy for me, but that instrumental section is fantastic.
8.3+7.8=16.1/2=8.05
425
The Call...8.3
Starts off as Styx, ends as DT. I don’t remember the middle.
After the Styx style intro, there’s a great JP solo again in the beginning. The verse/chorus is pretty unexciting, but things kick it up at 4:06. Nice vocal section at 4:52. Cool bass part and awesome MP drum fill. This whole instrumental section is excellent. Great solos all the way around. Instrumentally, I like long sections, but the vocal sections in this song are fairy weak, and it makes the song feel long.
Broken Sky/Long Day...8.6
I swear that’s a JP solo in this.
A mellow tune, but it’s really great. Might be my favorite vocal in the round. This is really a beautiful track. That’s not JP on the solo?? I like the part at 5:52 where the keyboards raise it up a bit right before the Long Day section. And the Long Day section is really great. More JP at the end!! I’d like to explore what was going on before these tracks. Fantastic and a favorite from the first listen.
8.3+8.6=16.9/2=8.45
Lonestar
Time Changer....7.4
This song kind of rocks but I don’t remember this being a Beach Boys round.
Cool bass led intro on this. Not crazy about the Time Changer vocal section, but damn the instrumentation is great. MP with some double bass, and some Rush type feels. I must say though that the song loses a bit of steam about halfway through. Too bad.
Author Of Confusion...7.4
I liked how beefy this was in the beginning and the end, but it was a bit light in the middle.
This song sure starts out chunky but goes mid tempo which really drags it out. Thankfully at 3:15, it picks up. I feel like this would be a good song for Ian Gillan. I understand the effects and reasons of the backing vocals, but I’m not a fan of it. The song kind of disappears for a bit in the middle. The thing is, even the beefy bits aren’t that interesting and they’re repetitive.
7.4+7.4=14.8/2=7.4
Professor
At The End Of The Day (Spock’s Beard)....8.2
It’s long, but it keeps moving through its different sections.
I like the orchestration of the intro, and the first couple of verses/choruses are pretty easy on the ears. I like the transition at 4:00. I like the short solo at 8:16. The next half dozen minutes shows the band weaving in and out of different sections, and I never feel like it meanders. I like the drumming in this song, switching from hi-hat to ride in all the right spots. This is a high quality track. Not my favorite, but there’s really not much to pick on.
I Am Your Father....7.9
Wow, that is heavy.
What a brilliant vocal. And amazing chorus. I love how the verse seemingly transitions into the chorus. It’s a really powerful technique. Really moving, but I have to say that lyrically, it’s a bit unfulfilling.
8.2+7.9=16.1/2=8.05
Ariich
The Call...8.3
Starts off as Styx, ends as DT. I don’t remember the middle.
After the Styx style intro, there’s a great JP solo again in the beginning. The verse/chorus is pretty unexciting, but things kick it up at 4:06. Nice vocal section at 4:52. Cool bass part and awesome MP drum fill. This whole instrumental section is excellent. Great solos all the way around. Instrumentally, I like long sections, but the vocal sections in this song are fairly weak, and it makes the song feel long.
Another Story To Tell....7.4
Hall & Oates round Yay! I did have some snarky comments that I decided to drop, but suffice to say that this was a miss. It's pleasant and all, and better than a couple of other tracks, but I'm disappointed with it.
8.3+7.4=15.7/2=7.85
HOF
Flow (Spock’s Beard)...7.5
I have no idea why this song had to be this long.
This song has a great feel to it. I love the lead guitar notes all over the first few minutes of this song. The vocal sections are nice enough, and I find the whole thing nice and kind of chill. The instrumental bit at 6:00 is cool. Great drumming and bass. Is that a YYZ drum fill at 6:21? The vocal part at 7:33 is a nice wind down of the song. Such a great ending just before 8:40.
WUT? It’s not over?? If the song ended right then and there, it’s would’ve been perfect. I feel like the song climaxed. The rest? It’s like laying with your girl after sex, when all you really want to do is get back to the game.
My Shoes Revisited(Spock’s Beard)....7.8
Great closing solo.
Revisited? Is this the end of a larger part? It kind of feels that way, and I think it ultimately hurts this submission. But somehow, this song is still pretty strong. Still that solo is phenomenal.
7.4+7.8=15.2/2=7.6
Kingshmegland
At the End of the Day (Spock’s Beard)....8.2
It’s long, but it keeps moving through its different sections.
I like the orchestration of the intro, and the first couple of verses/choruses are pretty easy on the ears. I like the transition at 4:00. I like the short solo at 8:16. The next half dozen minutes shows the band weaving in and out of different sections, and I never feel like it meanders. I like the drumming in this song, switching from hi-hat to ride in all the right spots. This is a high quality track. Not my favorite, but there’s really not much to pick on.
The Good Don't Last(Spock’s Beard)...7.5
This is a nice classy song. Not sure how it’ll end up though.
Sounds a lot like Styx in the beginning, especially when the acoustic guitar starts. Enjoyable parts throughout, and a nice solo towards the end. This song is pleasant to listen to. It’s kind of middle of the road here. Nothing I don’t like, but not necessarily anything that totally pulls me in though.
8.2+7.5=15.7/2=7.85
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Cyril
The Call...8.3
Starts off as Styx, ends as DT. I don’t remember the middle.
After the Styx style intro, there’s a great JP solo again in the beginning. The verse/chorus is pretty unexciting, but things kick it up at 4:06. Nice vocal section at 4:52. Cool bass part and awesome MP drum fill. This whole instrumental section is excellent. Great solos all the way around. Instrumentally, I like long sections, but the vocal sections in this song are fairy weak, and it makes the song feel long.
In the Fire...8.6
This was pretty rocking and I loved the Deep Purple-ish outro.
This song is like one big jam session. I love the instrumental sections. Has a real Deep purple/Rainbow feel to some of them. This must be fantastic live. It’s heavy in it’s own way. The vocals have a 70’s Classic Rock feel to them. That transition at 6:10 is amazing with the keyboard solo that follows. I could easily listen to an album of this all day long.
8.3+8.6=16.9/2=8.45
LudwigVan
The Call...8.3
Starts off as Styx, ends as DT. I don’t remember the middle.
After the Styx style intro, there’s a great JP solo again in the beginning. The verse/chorus is pretty unexciting, but things kick it up at 4:06. Nice vocal section at 4:52. Cool bass part and awesome MP drum fill. This whole instrumental section is excellent. Great solos all the way around. Instrumentally, I like long sections, but the vocal sections in this song are fairy weak, and it makes the song feel long.
Do It Again...7.5
I expect this to be a grower. It better be.
This is certainly a pleasant song. The chorus reminds me of Styx. Not a bad thing. The verses feel kind of 80’s-ish. The middle section reminds me of Shooting Star. Great JP solo at 6:00. This has a nice enough outro, but really, this song is like 3 minutes too long.
8.3+7.5=15.8/2=7.9
Puppies
Devil’s Got My Throat (Spock’s Beard)...8.3
You mean this isn’t a Deep Purple cover?
This totally sounds like Deep Purple. Total Ian Paice feel and I can hear Ian Gillan and Jon Lord all over this. This rocks and has a nice pace. Interesting vocal. I hear a little Alice Cooper in it. The instrumental section, while heavy on the keyboards is cool enough. I could do without the bit at 6:00 though. It would’ve been better if they just closed it out naturally.
The Light (Spock’s Beard)...8.4
This started and I thought I was in a Disney song.
The opening vocal totally felt like a Disney musical to me. Not sure I love the John Lennon styled vocals. I do like this song has a little oomph to it. I like the part around the 6:00 mark with some Cygnus X-1 punching in. The song cleverly transitions at 7:15. Love the piano at 10:02. I like the Bolero part. What’s the deal with the guy and his tabasco? Those are goofy as shit lyrics, but that section in fantastic. Excellent Disney ending as well. This is a strong song that doesn’t feel 15 minutes at all.
8.3+8.4=16.7/2=8.35
Elite
Thoughts Pt II (Spock’s Beard)...8.1
That was a hell of a lot crammed into this relatively short song.
The beginning feels really familiar but I can’t place it. Sounds a bit like Zeppelin with keyboards over it.
The harmonic vocals are interesting. This song keeps a nice pace and is really pretty good. It doesn’t need to be fifteen minutes. It’s kind of a mini epic.
Thoughts Pt V....7.7
I’ve really struggled with this song. It gives me kind of an ear glazing for some reason.
Nothing I don’t like about it, but it just feels busy to me. My favorite part is at 5:12 and the chill part that follows with some nice hi-hat work. This takes us to the end of the song, and coolness of it kind of cancels the business of the first half. At the end, I’m not sure what I really just listened to.
8.1+7.7=15.8/2=7.9
Kwyjibo
At The End Of The Day (Spock’s Beard)....8.2
It’s long, but it keeps moving through its different sections.
I like the orchestration of the intro, and the first couple of verses/choruses are pretty easy on the ears. I like the transition at 4:00. I like the short solo at 8:16. The next half dozen minutes shows the band weaving in and out of different sections, and I never feel like it meanders. I like the drumming in this song, switching from hi-hat to ride in all the right spots. This is a high quality track. Not my favorite, but there’s really not much to pick on.
Thoughts Pt II (Spock’s Beard)...8.1
That was a hell of a lot crammed into this relatively short song.
The beginning feels really familiar but I can’t place it. Sounds a bit like Zeppelin with keyboards over it.
The harmonic vocals are interesting. This song keeps a nice pace and is really pretty good. It doesn’t need to be fifteen minutes. It’s kind of a mini epic.
8.2+8.1=16.3/2=8.15
Wolfking
In The Fire....8.6
This was pretty rocking and I loved the Deep Purple-ish outro.
This song is like one big jam session. I love the instrumental sections. Has a real Deep purple/Rainbow feel to some of them. This must be fantastic live. It’s heavy in it’s own way. The vocals have a 70’s Classic Rock feel to them. That transition at 6:10 is amazing with the keyboard solo that follows. I could easily listen to an album of this all day long.
Author Of Confusion...7.4
I liked how beefy this was in the beginning and the end, but it was a bit light in the middle.
This song sure starts out chunky but goes mid tempo which really drags it out. Thankfully at 3:15, it picks up. I feel like this would be a good song for Ian Gillan. I understand the effects and reasons of the backing vocals, but I’m not a fan of it. The song kind of disappears for a bit in the middle. The thing is, even the beefy bits aren’t that interesting and they’re repetitive.
8.6+7.4=16/2=8.0
Evermind
Entrance...7.7
This song was sneaky good I think.
The vocals at the beginning here remind me of Matt Smith’s lower register. This song doesn’t really hit you over the head at any point, but it stays steady as it goes. Still, I think there are songs that offer more in this round.
Overflow...7.2
This gave me a Dire Straits feel, which is extremely ironic.
Really chill song here. I suppose it takes a certain mood though. Nice solo at 4:20. Not sure what else to say. One of the weaker tracks.
7.7+7.2=14.9/2=7.45
Vmadera
Crack The Big Sky (Spock's Beard)....8.3
Strong opening and ends really strong. It’s the 8 minutes in between that could use some help.
Cool drum/bass opening,and at 20 seconds in, it reminds me of a middle section of Iron Maiden’s The Man Who Would Be King. This song moves along pretty nicely. I like the horns at 5:00. That’s a great section. Some nice sax too. Really like the instrumental section from 7:30-8:50. Nice classic ending.
This is one of the upper tier songs in this round.
Into Fire (Spock's Beard)...8.3
WTF? That’s Demon music.
I must say. I loved this! I’m kind of surprised nobody else sent it. Vocally, it’s a bit odd, but the vocal melodies are amazing. This is such a joy to listen to in a playlist heavy of introspection. Just simple and fun.
8.3+8.3=16.6/2=8.3
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Round 4 Standings
425....8.45
Cyril...8.45
Puppies...8.35
Vmadera...8.30
Kwyjibo...8.15
Professor...8.05
Buddy...8.05
Wolfking...8.0
Elite...7.90
LudwigVan...7.90
Ariich...7.85
Kingshmegland...7.85
Romdrums....7.80
Omnipotent One...7.65
HOF...7.60
Stadler...7.55
Evermind...7.45
Lonestar...7.40
Standings!
Puppies...8.60+8.15+8.25+8.35=33.35
Ariich...9.0+8.15+7.60+7.85=32.60
Kwyjibo...7.80+8.75+7.65+8.15=32.35
Cyril...7.55+8.25+7.95+8.45=32.20
VMadera...8.45+7.35+7.95+8.30=32.05
Romdrums...8.25+7.65+8.25+7.8=31.95
Kingshmegland...7.70+8.25+7.85+7.85=31.65
Wolfking...7.80+7.6+8.10+8.0=31.50
425...7.90+7.40+7.65+8.45=31.40
LudwigVan...8.35+7.55+7.35+7.90=31.15
Stadler...8.50+7.75+7.35+7.55=31.15
Buddy...7.05+8.15+7.75+8.05=31.00
Evermind...8.20+7.75+7.55+7.45=30.95
Professor...8.20+7.6+7.0+8.05=30.85
HOF...7.65+7.50+8.05+7.60=30.80
Elite...7.50+7.75+7.60+7.90=30.75
Lonestar...7.80+7.25+7.85+7.40=30.30
Check my math!
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Ah, well, I’m glad you liked some of this stuff. I am not totally surprised that Flow sort of overstayed it’s welcome for you (I kind of think that about the sort of honky tonk verses there), but you have the really dramatic high point at around 10 minutes and then the epic ending with the closing guitar solo. It’s all a journey and you just have to sit back and take it in. Ironically, you loved Crack the Big Sky, and that’s one that I really think could stand to be shorter.
My Shoes Revisited is the end of a 20+ minute multi-track epic/suite, but that’s possibly my favorite guitar solo ever, which is the main reason I sent it. Glad you liked it at least!
Don’t forget to check out She is Everything for the epic guitar solo in that one as well.
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Oh no, the dice failed me :lol
Also not surprised to see 425 at the joint 1st place for this round at all.
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Ah, well, I’m glad you liked some of this stuff. I am not totally surprised that Flow sort of overstayed it’s welcome for you (I kind of think that about the sort of honky tonk verses there), but you have the really dramatic high point at around 10 minutes and then the epic ending with the closing guitar solo. It’s all a journey and you just have to sit back and take it in. Ironically, you loved Crack the Big Sky, and that’s one that I really think could stand to be shorter.
My Shoes Revisited is the end of a 20+ minute multi-track epic/suite, but that’s possibly my favorite guitar solo ever, which is the main reason I sent it. Glad you liked it at least!
Don’t forget to check out She is Everything for the epic guitar solo in that one as well.
I will.
If Flow ended at 8:40, it could've gotten an 8 easy. I felt like it climaxed...and then kept going.
My Shoes was really good. Such a great solo at the end. I'll follow up on the bigger piece.
Oh no, the dice failed me :lol
:lol
You should've went best 2 out of 3..
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Wow, I got killed. I honestly didn't see that coming....
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I kind of love that the round winners were one of the most enthusiastic Morse fans and one of the most enthusiastic Morse haters. :lol
Obviously I'm thrilled with how well you liked Broken Sky/Long Day. It's such a great ending to The Similitude of a Dream, and I'm glad to see it still hits well outside of the context of the full double concept album—especially the Long Day part, which I think gets some of its power from the fact that it's a reprise of the very first song, an hour and 45 minutes earlier. The guitar solo is genuinely not John Petrucci, but Eric Gillette is obviously a Petrucci fan. He's much younger than the rest of the guys in The Neal Morse Band and is clearly a real talent.
I figured The Call would do pretty well, and I'm glad to see that it did. I definitely come to the song more for the instrumental work than the vocal parts, although I like both.
Cool to see In the Fire as the other top performer. I think that one is really good.
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Four of you should feel shame.
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Wow, I got killed. I honestly didn't see that coming....
So I liked Bird On A Wire. It ranked dead center 13th out of 26 tracks. But I did like it.
Weathering Sky, unfortunately would not make me want to follow up on Neal Morse. There were just far more interesting songs that offered a lot more.
Four of you should feel shame.
Don't rub it in Mr. I'manexpertonNealMorse.
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Don't rub it in Mr. I'manexpertonNealMorse.
You're like my wife... hearing things I never said. :lol
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Not bad for a non-Morse fan! :biggrin:
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Sent for Coheed.
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Don't rub it in Mr. I'manexpertonNealMorse.
You're like my wife... hearing things I never said. :lol
:lol
Ah well. Now to dig more into C&C and narrow down.
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Four of you should feel shame.
I regret nothing!
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I dared people to send Into Fire. Had I, it would have been my highest score. Man, I got this backwards.
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Four of you should feel shame.
I mean I've only listened to my songs once to see if they were instrumentals or not. :lol
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I dared people to send Into Fire. Had I, it would have been my highest score. Man, I got this backwards.
I dare someone to send the Beard's Into Fire. The TACsponse to that would be incredible. :lol
I volunteer as a tribute!
:biggrin:
Sent Coheed. I hope my made some good choices :corn
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LudwigVan
The Call...8.3
Starts off as Styx, ends as DT. I don’t remember the middle.
After the Styx style intro, there’s a great JP solo again in the beginning. The verse/chorus is pretty unexciting, but things kick it up at 4:06. Nice vocal section at 4:52. Cool bass part and awesome MP drum fill. This whole instrumental section is excellent. Great solos all the way around. Instrumentally, I like long sections, but the vocal sections in this song are fairy weak, and it makes the song feel long.
Do It Again...7.5
I expect this to be a grower. It better be.
This is certainly a pleasant song. The chorus reminds me of Styx. Not a bad thing. The verses feel kind of 80’s-ish. The middle section reminds me of Shooting Star. Great JP solo at 6:00. This has a nice enough outro, but really, this song is like 3 minutes too long.
8.3+7.5=15.8/2=7.9
I see that my strategy of picking the most Dream Theater-ish songs I could find got mixed results :P. The Styx was coincidental, but I always felt that Neal Morse/Spock's Beard borrowed more from Gentle Giant than from Styx.
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:lol
Do It Again isn't a bad song by any stretch. A score of 7.5 basically says that I feel a song is totally average. Nothing really stands out, but nothing I dislike.
I have to say that I'm a little disappointed in a few of you, who actually are familiar with Neal Morse :lol
Other than Evermind who has an excuse. Maybe these songs were sent because they're personal faves, and I totally appreciate that, but it just seemed there are so many songs at your (Lonestar/Stadler/Ariich) disposal that were..better.
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I don't know any Neal Morse, and basically played spotify and clicked what I liked.
Expect the same for Coheed, Opeth, and Mastadon.
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I'll take an 8.
Tim, when do you want submissions by at the latest? I haven't even started checking C&C songs. I'm working 7 days this week too so will try and sample a few songs. I've literally heard one song once from this band like 10 years ago.
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At the latest?
I'd like to be locked and loaded heading into the weekend. If you bleed into Saturday that's fine. But I would say the absolute but not ideal deadline would be Sunday morning (me)/Sunday night (you).
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I don't know any Neal Morse, and basically played spotify and clicked what I liked.
In a way, that makes me feel better about your score. ;D
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Ok. I won't hold you up mate, I'll stay up and sample some stuff tonight. Hopefully the first two songs I click on are decent. :lol
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I have to say that I'm a little disappointed in a few of you, who actually are familiar with Neal Morse :lol
Other than Evermind who has an excuse. Maybe these songs were sent because they're personal faves, and I totally appreciate that, but it just seemed there are so many songs at your (Lonestar/Stadler/Ariich) disposal that were..better.
Well, I knew I was taking a chance with Freedom Song - sending something completely off the board. If I was going to play it safe, I probably would've sent City of Destruction, or I'm Running.
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Ok. I won't hold you up mate, I'll stay up and sample some stuff tonight. Hopefully the first two songs I click on are decent. :lol
Hopefully they are. ;D
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:lol
Do It Again isn't a bad song by any stretch. A score of 7.5 basically says that I feel a song is totally average. Nothing really stands out, but nothing I dislike.
I have to say that I'm a little disappointed in a few of you, who actually are familiar with Neal Morse :lol
Other than Evermind who has an excuse. Maybe these songs were sent because they're personal faves, and I totally appreciate that, but it just seemed there are so many songs at your (Lonestar/Stadler/Ariich) disposal that were..better.
Well, that's me: the new album is probably my favorite Neal album now, and it's likely going to crack my all time top 15. "Bird On A Wire" is one of my favorites from that record. Weathering Sky is just one I love to put on in the car and sing along to. Ah well.
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I have to say that I'm a little disappointed in a few of you, who actually are familiar with Neal Morse :lol
Other than Evermind who has an excuse. Maybe these songs were sent because they're personal faves, and I totally appreciate that, but it just seemed there are so many songs at your (Lonestar/Stadler/Ariich) disposal that were..better.
Well, I knew I was taking a chance with Freedom Song - sending something completely off the board. If I was going to play it safe, I probably would've sent City of Destruction, or I'm Running.
I know I've been absent and busy but you're playing now?
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Omnipotent One :lol
Ah, okay.
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:lol
Do It Again isn't a bad song by any stretch. A score of 7.5 basically says that I feel a song is totally average. Nothing really stands out, but nothing I dislike.
I have to say that I'm a little disappointed in a few of you, who actually are familiar with Neal Morse :lol
Other than Evermind who has an excuse. Maybe these songs were sent because they're personal faves, and I totally appreciate that, but it just seemed there are so many songs at your (Lonestar/Stadler/Ariich) disposal that were..better.
Well, that's me: the new album is probably my favorite Neal album now, and it's likely going to crack my all time top 15. "Bird On A Wire" is one of my favorites from that record. Weathering Sky is just one I love to put on in the car and sing along to. Ah well.
I know, right? I just can’t figure this TAC guy out!
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:lol
Do It Again isn't a bad song by any stretch. A score of 7.5 basically says that I feel a song is totally average. Nothing really stands out, but nothing I dislike.
I have to say that I'm a little disappointed in a few of you, who actually are familiar with Neal Morse :lol
Other than Evermind who has an excuse. Maybe these songs were sent because they're personal faves, and I totally appreciate that, but it just seemed there are so many songs at your (Lonestar/Stadler/Ariich) disposal that were..better.
Well, that's me: the new album is probably my favorite Neal album now, and it's likely going to crack my all time top 15. "Bird On A Wire" is one of my favorites from that record. Weathering Sky is just one I love to put on in the car and sing along to. Ah well.
I know, right? I just can’t figure this TAC guy out!
Well, he likes The Astonishing, and hates Power Windows. There is no figuring that out.
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:lol
Do It Again isn't a bad song by any stretch. A score of 7.5 basically says that I feel a song is totally average. Nothing really stands out, but nothing I dislike.
I have to say that I'm a little disappointed in a few of you, who actually are familiar with Neal Morse :lol
Other than Evermind who has an excuse. Maybe these songs were sent because they're personal faves, and I totally appreciate that, but it just seemed there are so many songs at your (Lonestar/Stadler/Ariich) disposal that were..better.
Well, that's me: the new album is probably my favorite Neal album now, and it's likely going to crack my all time top 15. "Bird On A Wire" is one of my favorites from that record. Weathering Sky is just one I love to put on in the car and sing along to. Ah well.
I know, right? I just can’t figure this TAC guy out!
Well, he likes The Astonishing, and hates Power Windows. There is no figuring that out.
Suddenly everything makes so much more sense.....and yet, less sense at the same time...
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Well, he likes The Astonishing, and hates Power Windows. There is no figuring that out.
So it is true. He likes The Astonishingly Bad. Wow. I never made it to disc 2 of that monstrosity.
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So, how many times is Welcome Home going to be sent in the Coheed round? :corn
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I think I'll be going with some deeper cuts. Possibly.
I'm tempted to send Al the Killer along with On the Brink :neverusethis:
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So, how many times is Welcome Home going to be sent in the Coheed round? :corn
Anywhere between 1 and 15 (I didn't send it )
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I think I'll be going with some deeper cuts. Possibly.
They're all deep cuts to me.
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So, how many times is Welcome Home going to be sent in the Coheed round? :corn
this would probably be a smarter pick but i've gone a slightly-but-not-quite off the beaten path approach here
coincidentally, the two songs i picked are back-to-back in their discography
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So, how many times is Welcome Home going to be sent in the Coheed round? :corn
This is the song I was referring too in my earlier post. I'll listen again but remember it being decent. With my time constraints, I think I'll be sending it.
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I think I'll be going with some deeper cuts. Possibly.
They're all deep cuts to me.
Maybe he sent the song "The Final Cut" :corn
In all honesty, the whole Willing Well suite would be awesome
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I think I'll be going with some deeper cuts. Possibly.
They're all deep cuts to me.
Maybe he sent the song "The Final Cut" :corn
In all honesty, the whole Willing Well suite would be awesome
I actually considered passing off The Willing Well as one song :lol It is awesome!
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Two people have used their Wild Card™ and each have had a song eliminated. One was easy, the other was tough.
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Sent two songs with titles of normal length.
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So, how many times is Welcome Home going to be sent in the Coheed round? :corn
I came in to post that exact question. :lol
Told TAC over PM that he can probably expect a lot of that track.
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:corn
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the other was tough.
because you hated all three :corn
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:lol
Actually, I think this round is more to my comfort level, honestly.
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Actually, I can see Tim enjoying quite a few aspects of Coheed and Cambria. :metal
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I've heard about 7 or 8 of the songs sent, and I'd say we're off to a rousing start. And then there's Stadler. :lol
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Sent brah!
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Sent brah!
Sent a question back to you!
Damn crazy ass titles.
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Sent brah!
Sent a question back to you!
Asked and answered!
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:lol
Do It Again isn't a bad song by any stretch. A score of 7.5 basically says that I feel a song is totally average. Nothing really stands out, but nothing I dislike.
I have to say that I'm a little disappointed in a few of you, who actually are familiar with Neal Morse :lol
Other than Evermind who has an excuse. Maybe these songs were sent because they're personal faves, and I totally appreciate that, but it just seemed there are so many songs at your (Lonestar/Stadler/Ariich) disposal that were..better.
Well, I'd say that it's hard to know what you'll think, plus I'm generally preferring to send two songs of slightly different styles to give you a fuller representation of the artist's work (which I know you're keen on, hence the whole 50% Neal vocals rule). I don't actually know what the Hall & Oates reference means, but the result is disappointing for sure. I think that's a really great little song, with a nice punchy groove and great hooks. Seems in this round especially the long songs pretty much all scored well, so maybe I should just stick with epics from now on. :lol
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I have sent!
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Well, I'd say that it's hard to know what you'll think,
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Alright, not bad, not bad at all.
I thought about sending Into The Fire but thought it wouldn't work as a stand alone song.
Tim, if you like it that much, do yourself a favor and listen to "?", especially the run from Sweet Elation/Into The Fire/Solid As The Sun and end it with the cheesy and pompous The Glory Of The Lord, as this really is one long song with lots of reprising themes.
And because it's my favorite Neal Morse record, because it's just soooo good. ;)
edit: sent some random stuff
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Well, I'd say that it's hard to know what you'll think,
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:rollin
Touche.
EDIT: Oh also every time I see this thread title I think it says Morsluts.
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:lol
Yeah, seriously, Rich. :lol
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Sent!
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I like both Weathering Sky and Another Story to Tell, but I can understand why they wouldn't perform as well in roulette. They're both kind of "ordinary" songs, albeit really good ones, while some of the longer ones have more of the NM magic.
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Ordinary is a good word. Another Story and a really just that. Not a bad song but not one that stood out or clicked it’s way up.
I really wasn’t crazy about Weathering Sky though, and I can’t imagine it with Stadler singing. ;D
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I actually think I won't roll the dice for this and just send two songs from Hi Apollo I'm Fallen Star IV: The Wishing Wish in the Eyes of Madness.
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TAC, when you reveal who sent what you should type out all the song names by memory and see how many you can get right. :biggrin:
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I wouldn't even be able to get all the song names right :rollin
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My song titles are both pretty short.
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TAC, when you reveal who sent what you should type out all the song names by memory and see how many you can get right. :biggrin:
I already failed that in a PM. :lol
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TAC, when you reveal who sent what you should type out all the song names by memory and see how many you can get right. :biggrin:
Oh that's easy.
Welcome Home.
How'd I do? ;D
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My song titles are both pretty short.
My two song titles are a total of six words.
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TAC, when you reveal who sent what you should type out all the song names by memory and see how many you can get right. :biggrin:
Oh that's easy.
Welcome Home.
How'd I do? ;D
You'll get a few freebies. :lol
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My song titles are both pretty short.
My two song titles are a total of six words.
Mine total up to four words I think. There were at least two other one word titles I considered. This band is a lot less out there than I anticipated going in.
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TAC, when you reveal who sent what you should type out all the song names by memory and see how many you can get right. :biggrin:
I already failed that in a PM. :lol
Yeah, you can't send 4 songs! :lol
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Just waiting on Wolfking.
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I tried. Lol
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My song titles are both pretty short.
My two song titles are a total of six words.
Mine total up to four words I think.
I sent 4 words as well. Did we send the same stuff?
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My song titles are both pretty short.
My two song titles are a total of six words.
Mine total up to four words I think.
I sent 4 words as well. Did we send the same stuff?
Everybody sent the same stuff. :lol
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Christ :lol
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I'm pretty sure there are like 10 Welcome Homes in there :lol
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Everybody definitely sent Welcome Home. I didn't. But I wouldn't be surprised if other people sent both of my songs.
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Everybody sent the same stuff. :lol
Time to get cracking on Opeth I guess.
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Shortest round yet in terms of playlist length, I'm assuming?
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I just sent Welcome Home. Hopefully no one else sent that one.
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Shortest round yet in terms of playlist length, I'm assuming?
to be fair this was bound to happen anyways as generally coheed songs don't run as long as any of the other artists so far :lol
mastodon will probably be similar, aside from the one album from them that's banned anyways their songs tend to run relatively short
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I did not send Welcome Home.
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I did not send Welcome Home.
I too did not send Welcome Home.
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My prediction for the second-most popular one: In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3
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I sent both. :biggrin:
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Did J-Boy do a group PM and bet everyone to send the same song?
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I forgot what I sent, but it wasn't Welcome Home.
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OK, I have a Wild Card™ to eliminate and then I'll give the final list.
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My prediction for the second-most popular one: In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3
I sent neither!
my intuition suggests that TAC will not be able to get past SSTB/IKS Claudio who has always sounded noticeably different to Good Apollo-onward Claudio, but watch me be way off :lol
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Between Welcome Home and IKSoSE:3 Claudio sounds better on the latter tbh
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My prediction for the second-most popular one: In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3
I thought of sending that as I know it's popular, but I decided to stick with one album I know.
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Did J-Boy do a group PM and bet everyone to send the same song?
Maybe I did ... maybe I didn’t.
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Between Welcome Home and IKSoSE:3 Claudio sounds better on the latter tbh
I think IKSoSE:3 (the song) is one of Claudio's less "weird" vocal performances.
I also did not send either one. In fact, I didn't send anything from either of those albums.
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Ok, here's the list!
Professor
Welcome Home
The End Complete III: The End Complete
Vmadera
Gravemakers & Gunslinger
The Dark Sentencer
Kingshmegland
Welcome Home
The Dark Sentencer
Buddy
Welcome Home
In Keeping Secrets Of Silent Earth:3
Romdrums
Welcome Home
Key Entity Extaction IV:Evagria The Faithful
Cyril
No World For Tomorrow
The Willing Well IV:The Final Cut
Stadler
The Dark Sentencer
Jessie’s Girl 2
HOF
Atlas
All On Fire
LudwigVan
Key Entities Extraction V: Sentry The Defiant
Goodnight Fair Lady
Puppies
Gravity’s Union
The Willing Well IV:The Final Cut
425
No World For Tomorrow
Gravity’s Union
Lonestar
The Gutter
In Keeping Secrets Of Silent Earth:3
Elite
Welcome Home
The Suffering
Kwyjibo
Crossing The Frame
Gravity’s Union
Ariich
Key Entity Extraction I: Domino The Destitute
Gravity’s Union
Evermind
Welcome Home
Ten Speed (Of God’s Blood & Burial)
Wolfking
Welcome Home
The Crowning
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/26L697DbrHLql36IO8mBsG?si=84acc574373f4643
Oh, and I'll give up one First Impression right now...
'This song certainly is good. But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.'
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Did J-Boy do a group PM and bet everyone to send the same song?
Maybe I did ... maybe I didn’t.
Maybe that explains my slight underwelment with it. ;D
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Lowest score in the round goes to Welcome Home! :facepalm:
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i don't remember all of these songs off the top of my head but pretty much all the ones i do make perfect sense :lol
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I thought of sending The Final Cut but it has that outro which I thought Tim wouldn't like. :lol Good on people who sent it though, it was my third choice.
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My fate is tied together with Cyril and Puppies? I guess I could do worse.
Not as many IKS as I thought, and I'm bowled over that IV is the only Willing Well that was sent. If I knew none of y'all were sending I or II, I might have done that in place of NWFT. Unless they were wild-card-eliminated, which would find very surprising.
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I guess I need to go see what Welcome Home is all about.
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IMO: Welcome Home is not that great. It's a classic case of a radio hit that is shallower than a lot of the band's better songs.
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It was a radio hit? I mean, I don't listen to the radio very much but..
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Is Welcome Home akin to getting Pull Me Under in a Dream Theater Round?
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IMO: Welcome Home is not that great. It's a classic case of a radio hit that is shallower than a lot of the band's better songs.
I think it's the riff.
I certainly like Welcome Home more than the song you sent me in my roulette which was about Domino's going bankrupt I think?
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I thought of sending The Final Cut but it has that outro which I thought Tim wouldn't like. :lol Good on people who sent it though, it was my third choice.
see, i told him to use the version on the greatest hits compilation which excludes that outro :corn
Is Welcome Home akin to getting Pull Me Under in a Dream Theater Round?
100%
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Tim, your Spotify playlist is missing one of my songs. :P
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IMO: Welcome Home is not that great. It's a classic case of a radio hit that is shallower than a lot of the band's better songs.
I think it's the riff.
I certainly like Welcome Home more than the song you sent me in my roulette which was about Domino's going bankrupt I think?
Domino the Destitute wouldn't be among the top 10 songs I'd send today, but I still like it better than Welcome Home.
And yes, Welcome Home is basically Coheed's Pull Me Under, although Coheed has another sizable hit in A Favor House Atlantic.
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So one of the songs I picked completely at random (Gravity's Union) is sent by three other people. Hopefully that's a good sign.
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It's my personal favorite Coheed song.
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IMO: Welcome Home is not that great. It's a classic case of a radio hit that is shallower than a lot of the band's better songs.
I think it's the riff.
I certainly like Welcome Home more than the song you sent me in my roulette which was about Domino's going bankrupt I think?
Are you saying that song didn't deliver?
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Tim, your Spotify playlist is missing one of my songs. :P
Fixed. Thank you.
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The riffs and chord progression on Welcome Home is highly reminiscent of Zep’s Kashmir.
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IMO: Welcome Home is not that great. It's a classic case of a radio hit that is shallower than a lot of the band's better songs.
I think it's the riff.
I certainly like Welcome Home more than the song you sent me in my roulette which was about Domino's going bankrupt I think?
Are you saying that song didn't deliver?
For sure. :lol
I thought of sending The Final Cut but it has that outro which I thought Tim wouldn't like. :lol Good on people who sent it though, it was my third choice.
see, i told him to use the version on the greatest hits compilation which excludes that outro :corn
There's a compilation that has that? Oh well. :lol I would've definitely sent that. Welcome Home and The Final Cut are my two favourite Coheed tracks.
I might check some stuff from this round though, as I only know the Greek Apollo, I'm Lonestar IV songs.
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Greek Apollo, I'm Lonestar
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The riffs and chord progression on Welcome Home is highly reminiscent of Zep’s Kashmir.
I kind of got a Whitesnake - Still of the Night vibe from it, which I guess makes sense.
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The riffs and chord progression on Welcome Home is highly reminiscent of Zep’s Kashmir.
I kind of got a Whitesnake - Still of the Night vibe from it, which I guess makes sense.
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The riffs and chord progression on Welcome Home is highly reminiscent of Zep’s Kashmir.
In this thread, LudwigVan relates every song to Led Zeppelin! ;D
I thought I heard JPJ's keys in The Final Cut..
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IMO: Welcome Home is not that great. It's a classic case of a radio hit that is shallower than a lot of the band's better songs.
I think it's the riff.
I certainly like Welcome Home more than the song you sent me in my roulette which was about Domino's going bankrupt I think?
Domino the Destitute wouldn't be among the top 10 songs I'd send today, but I still like it better than Welcome Home.
And yes, Welcome Home is basically Coheed's Pull Me Under, although Coheed has another sizable hit in A Favor House Atlantic.
I think you're being generous with the word "hit". :) :) :)
Then again, and I say this respectfully, I'm not a fan. The Dark Sentencer was one song I truly like - like, not love - but while I see why someone WOULD like them, they're not really for me.
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The riffs and chord progression on Welcome Home is highly reminiscent of Zep’s Kashmir.
In this thread, LudwigVan relates every song to Led Zeppelin! ;D
The sign of a true fogey!
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I got through half of the Crowning and fell asleep. It sounded okay but woke up this morning with me the only one left to send. I sent it anyway as I couldn't be assed looking anymore and I have to get to work. :lol
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The riffs and chord progression on Welcome Home is highly reminiscent of Zep’s Kashmir.
In this thread, LudwigVan relates every song to Led Zeppelin! ;D
The sign of a true fogey!
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Really fortunate that Jimmy Page invented the guitar
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The beginning of Gravity's Union might be the single worst sound I've ever heard come from a guitar.
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:rollin
Hey throw some disses at my songs I'm missing out on all the fun
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I thought about sending Evageria The Faithful, The Crowing (not The Crowning, btw), and Domino the Destitute. Glad to see other people did. Surprised no one sent The Suffering.
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I thought about sending Evageria The Faithful, The Crowing (not The Crowning, btw), and Domino the Destitute. Glad to see other people did. Surprised no one sent The Suffering.
They did.
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Aahh, missed that, :facepalm:
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IMO: Welcome Home is not that great. It's a classic case of a radio hit that is shallower than a lot of the band's better songs.
I think it's the riff.
I certainly like Welcome Home more than the song you sent me in my roulette which was about Domino's going bankrupt I think?
Domino the Destitute wouldn't be among the top 10 songs I'd send today, but I still like it better than Welcome Home.
Domino the Destitute is literally their best song (that I've heard). :P
I get that Welcome Home and more generally their earlier stuff is pretty popular, but honestly I just find it quite bland. Like, there's some cool stuff instrumentally but a complete lack of vocal hooks that interest me. But each to their own.
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I get that Welcome Home and more generally their earlier stuff is pretty popular, but honestly I just find it quite bland. Like, there's some cool stuff instrumentally but a complete lack of vocal hooks that interest me. But each to their own.
If their newer stuff has more of that I might enjoy it more.
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I get that Welcome Home and more generally their earlier stuff is pretty popular, but honestly I just find it quite bland. Like, there's some cool stuff instrumentally but a complete lack of vocal hooks that interest me. But each to their own.
If their newer stuff has more of that I might enjoy it more.
More, though it's still not consistent. The Afterman albums are easily the best thing I've heard from them and have some really cool songs, but I still don't love them.
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domino is really good to be fair but i wanted one rocker and one proggier tune and this was the end result
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The beginning of Gravity's Union might be the single worst sound I've ever heard come from a guitar.
:facepalm:
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Can I retroactively change Gravity's Union with The Light and The Glass? :biggrin:
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Can I retroactively change Gravity's Union with The Light and The Glass? :biggrin:
do you want him to sit bored for 5 minutes lol
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Can I retroactively change Gravity's Union with The Light and The Glass? :biggrin:
do you want him to sit bored for 5 minutes lol
Pretty sure we covered that last round.
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Can I retroactively change Gravity's Union with The Light and The Glass? :biggrin:
do you want him to sit bored for 5 minutes lol
Pretty sure we covered that last round.
Haha. Fair enough! :corn
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The beginning of Gravity's Union might be the single worst sound I've ever heard come from a guitar.
https://youtu.be/0cVlTeIATBs
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The beginning of Gravity's Union might be the single worst sound I've ever heard come from a guitar.
https://youtu.be/0cVlTeIATBs
That's literally what it sounds like.
Of course there's this..
https://youtu.be/JD5ExLR_YaM?t=7
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(https://i.postimg.cc/RZbLhhs2/giphy.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
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:lol
That's a great gif.
Is that the Queen catching you drink the last beer in the house? :lol
Just finished first listens. I'm not putting together First Impressions tonight. I'll do it tomorrow, but I do have two overarching First Impressions.
1. I'll be shocked if this isn't the highest scoring round. How that affects the standings is one thing, but collectively, I'm expecting good scores.
2. I totally understand Claudio's voice not agreeing with some people, but you cannot deny that this guy leaves it all out there. Great performances practically across the board.
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No, we share beers. Lol. She gets pissed about a hundred other issues in her head.
...
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No, we share beers. Lol. She gets pissed about a hundred other issues in her head.
...
So listen to this story..
backstory...our town is having water isuues, so we have to drink bottled water, but can fill jugs at the town's water department. anyway..I needed a pitcher to combine jugs....
So I can't find the pitcher in our kitchen,. so I ask my wife where the (I'm such a dumbass I couldn't think of the word pitcher) fruit punch pourer is. Miraculously, she knows what I'm talking about.
Anyway she asks, "What do you need it for?"
WUT? I go, "What do you mean, what difference does it make? Where is it?"
Her: "Well, what are you using it for?"
Me: "Does it matter?"
Her: "yeah it does"
Me (WTF??): "So if I need it for one thing, it'll be found in the kitchen, but if I need it for another thing, it'll be found in the hallway?" :lol
Her:....blank stare...
Me: "I need it to combine the water jugs"
Her: "Oh I think it's in here (hallway closet)"
:facepalm:
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:lol
That's a great gif.
Is that the Queen catching you drink the last beer in the house? :lol
Just finished first listens. I'm not putting together First Impressions tonight. I'll do it tomorrow, but I do have two overarching First Impressions.
1. I'll be shocked if this isn't the highest scoring round. How that affects the standings is one thing, but collectively, I'm expecting good scores.
2. I totally understand Claudio's voice not agreeing with some people, but you cannot deny that this guy leaves it all out there. Great performances practically across the board.
(https://c.tenor.com/hyVt5PDLlzcAAAAM/futurama-good-news-everyone.gif)
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Tim, I'm triggered. I know that story so well. Lol
Get me what I asked for woman! I don't need to womansplain it to you!
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Tim, I'm triggered. I know that story so well. Lol
Get me what I asked for woman! I don't need to womansplain it to you!
And the thing is...it's out of fucking nowhere. :lol
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Hard to bite your tongue when you think, "why do I need to explain myself?"
Aren't I a grown up with best intentions? :lol
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Hard to bite your tongue when you think, "why do I need to explain myself?"
Aren't I a grown up with best intentions? :lol
It's funny, but I find myself stomping my feet like an 8 y/o saying,"I'm a 53 year old man..." :lol
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No, we share beers. Lol. She gets pissed about a hundred other issues in her head.
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So listen to this story..
backstory...our town is having water isuues, so we have to drink bottled water, but can fill jugs at the town's water department. anyway..I needed a pitcher to combine jugs....
So I can't find the pitcher in our kitchen,. so I ask my wife where the (I'm such a dumbass I couldn't think of the word pitcher) fruit punch pourer is. Miraculously, she knows what I'm talking about.
Anyway she asks, "What do you need it for?"
WUT? I go, "What do you mean, what difference does it make? Where is it?"
Her: "Well, what are you using it for?"
Me: "Does it matter?"
Her: "yeah it does"
Me (WTF??): "So if I need it for one thing, it'll be found in the kitchen, but if I need it for another thing, it'll be found in the hallway?" :lol
Her:....blank stare...
Me: "I need it to combine the water jugs"
Her: "Oh I think it's in here (hallway closet)"
:facepalm:
Who knew that the location of the pitcher would be conditional? :lol
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1. I'll be shocked if this isn't the highest scoring round. How that affects the standings is one thing, but collectively, I'm expecting good scores.
to be fair almost across the board people avoided their poppier stuff and went for the heavier tunes, which is probably factoring into at least a good chunk of this :lol if you'd gotten all blood red summers, feathers, number cities etc. i bet you'd be singing a different tune :P
i considered sending old flames too but i was a bit less confident in that one even if it's pretty damn great
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Hard to bite your tongue when you think, "why do I need to explain myself?"
Aren't I a grown up with best intentions? :lol
It's funny, but I find myself stomping my feet like an 8 y/o saying,"I'm a 53 year old man..." :lol
I know. Us guys need physically but we can't so we revert to stomping off like a kid. :lol
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i considered sending old flames too but i was a bit less confident in that one even if it's pretty damn great
Listening now..you made the right choice. :lol
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This is just me, but there "emoness" early on turns me off. As they grow. I've liked them more.
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This is just me, but there "emoness" early on turns me off. As they grow. I've liked them more.
I don't think they have ever been an emo band. Sure they were lumped in with a lot of the emo bands of the early 2000s and they utilized some of those sounds a little bit, but Coheed was playing at a much higher level and their lyrics never delved into emo territory.
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I haven't had a chance yet to step back and look at the chronology of the songs that were submitted. I definitely will though. Yeah, there's an emo-ness to his voice.
This is just me, but there "emoness" early on turns me off. As they grow. I've liked them more.
I don't think they have ever been an emo band. Sure they were lumped in with a lot of the emo bands of the early 2000s and they utilized some of those sounds a little bit, but Coheed was playing at a much higher level and their lyrics never delved into emo territory.
I swear I just listened to a song where the lyrics were "Will you marry me?" :lol
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This is just me, but there "emoness" early on turns me off. As they grow. I've liked them more.
I don't think they have ever been an emo band. Sure they were lumped in with a lot of the emo bands of the early 2000s and they utilized some of those sounds a little bit, but Coheed was playing at a much higher level and their lyrics never delved into emo territory.
Their 1st 2 albums reak emo. There is no doubt there. They definitely evolved since then.
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This is just me, but there "emoness" early on turns me off. As they grow. I've liked them more.
I don't think they have ever been an emo band. Sure they were lumped in with a lot of the emo bands of the early 2000s and they utilized some of those sounds a little bit, but Coheed was playing at a much higher level and their lyrics never delved into emo territory.
Their 1st 2 albums reak emo. There is no doubt there. They definitely evolved since then.
(this is why i avoided the first two albums :lol in keeping secrets is easily their best album tho and emo is a real good genre if you know where to look)
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Maybe not always 'emo-ness', but there is a wonderfully sappy sentimentality that pervades C&C, which is a cool trick to pull off considering that most of the lyrics are part of one giant science fiction epic saga. And yet, even though each song is part of a bigger story, they feel complete within themselves, not like fragments of a whole that you sometimes get with bands that do grand concept albums. Each song stands alone without feeling like it needs another to complete the picture.
I get the sense that C&C appeals to a younger crowd, and no less to females as males. One time, I was blasting a C&C album in my car as I pulled up to the entrance of a Long Island State Park, and the young girl inside the fee booth immediately started singing, snapping her fingers and bopping to the music. It kinda made me feel cool ... at least for a couple of minutes. :D
But underneath the indie-punk trappings, they've managed to sneak in a ton of classic rock. I think it's great that this band bears the torch for Pink Floyd, Iron Maiden, Led Zeppelin, Thin Lizzy, Rush, etc., keeping these sounds alive for the younger set. Their music is almost chameleon-like in the way they've adopted all these sounds, but somehow turned it into their own.
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2. I totally understand Claudio's voice not agreeing with some people, but you cannot deny that this guy leaves it all out there. Great performances practically across the board.
This is so true. He absolutely goes for all of it on every song.
I hope the first few seconds of Gravity's Union don't kill the whole song for you.
Their 1st 2 albums reak emo. There is no doubt there. They definitely evolved since then.
(this is why i avoided the first two albums :lol in keeping secrets is easily their best album tho and emo is a real good genre if you know where to look)
I don't know a lot of emo music, but it seems to me from my limited experience of the genre that SSTB has a pretty heavy emo vibe, but it's really dialed back a lot even by IKS.
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I swear I just listened to a song where the lyrics were "Will you marry me?" :lol
Jesse, bad boy
Just come look at what your brother did,
To that girl's precious little whore of a body
[x4]
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So one of the songs I picked completely at random (Gravity's Union) is sent by three other people. Hopefully that's a good sign.
The beginning of Gravity's Union might be the single worst sound I've ever heard come from a guitar.
:facepalm: :D
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:lol
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So one of the songs I picked completely at random (Gravity's Union) is sent by three other people. Hopefully that's a good sign.
The beginning of Gravity's Union might be the single worst sound I've ever heard come from a guitar.
:facepalm: :D
Haha, too good.
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So is all of Good Apollo I'm Burning Star IV just a massive edgy self-insert about Claudio's personal problems or am I reading into that wrong?
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So is all of Good Apollo I'm Burning Star IV just a massive edgy self-insert about Claudio's personal problems or am I reading into that wrong?
Eh, maybe?? But it's all part of the overall story of The Amory Wars. :dunno:
I never got into all the graphic novels and other stuff about it, so the story is a little hard to follow sometimes. At least for me.
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Every album, except one, takes place in the universe of The Amory Wars. Wiki seems to have a decent breakdown and a timeline of when the albums take place and what graphic novel they correspond to.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amory_Wars
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So is all of Good Apollo I'm Burning Star IV just a massive edgy self-insert about Claudio's personal problems or am I reading into that wrong?
the first good apollo album is basically about writer's block yeah
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So wait..this is comic book music?
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This is just me, but there "emoness" early on turns me off. As they grow. I've liked them more.
I don't think they have ever been an emo band. Sure they were lumped in with a lot of the emo bands of the early 2000s and they utilized some of those sounds a little bit, but Coheed was playing at a much higher level and their lyrics never delved into emo territory.
Their 1st 2 albums reak emo. There is no doubt there. They definitely evolved since then.
(this is why i avoided the first two albums :lol in keeping secrets is easily their best album tho and emo is a real good genre if you know where to look)
AFI was a band I dug when they came out.
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So wait..this is comic book music?
Sooo.... what rock have you been hiding under? :lol. :facepalm:
https://www.amazon.com/Claudio-Sanchez/e/B00N8N3JU4?ref=dbs_m_cmx_rwt_byln
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So wait..this is comic book music?
Sooo.... what rock have you been hiding under? :lol. :facepalm:
https://www.amazon.com/Claudio-Sanchez/e/B00N8N3JU4?ref=dbs_m_cmx_rwt_byln
Well, I'm not into comic books. :P
I did make it through puberty.
AFI was a band I dug when they came out.
Never heard of them.
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So wait..this is comic book music?
Sooo.... what rock have you been hiding under? :lol. :facepalm:
https://www.amazon.com/Claudio-Sanchez/e/B00N8N3JU4?ref=dbs_m_cmx_rwt_byln
To be fair, I knew nothing about all of this also. Not a fan of the band so why would I?
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So wait..this is comic book music?
Sooo.... what rock have you been hiding under? :lol. :facepalm:
https://www.amazon.com/Claudio-Sanchez/e/B00N8N3JU4?ref=dbs_m_cmx_rwt_byln
Well, I'm not into comic books. :P
I did make it through puberty.
AFI was a band I dug when they came out.
Never heard of them.
That's not a problem.
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Being comic book music is the logical conclusion of prog geekiness, to be fair
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Being comic book music is the logical conclusion of prog geekiness, to be fair
Seems like it'd be the impetus..
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First Impressions
III: The End Complete
In Keeping Secrets Of Silent Earth:3
Key Entity Extaction IV:Evagria The Faithful
No World For Tomorrow
Jessie’s Girl 2
Key Entities Extraction V: Sentry The Defiant
All On Fire
Gravity’s Union
Crossing The Frame
The Suffering
The Gutter
Atlas
Goodnight Fair Lady
The Crowing
Ten Speed (Of God’s Blood & Burial)
The Willing Well IV:The Final Cut
Key Entity Extraction I: Domino The Destitute
This is almost epic
This was a bit iffy when it started, but it won me over.
This will take a few more listens to sink in.
Hmm..I don’t know about this one.
This feels pretty average.
I suppose that sometimes it helps to actually know the song.
For a relatively short song, this song has a lot of depth.
This takes a while to get there but it’s pretty satisfying in the end.
Thin Lizzy Round!
This is a nice song that needs to do a bit more to stand out.
WTF is this?
Not sure why….but I like this song.
Enjoyable song. Not sure if it’ll stand out though.
That was really nice
I like where this went in the second half.
I didn’t not like this song, but I found it a tad unexciting.
This song certainly is good. But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.[Welcome Home]
Parts of this are metal!
Pretty cool immediate rocker.[Gravemakers & Gunslingers]
This is a cool song. I didn’t care for the swearing though.[The Dark Sentencer]
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Mine?
This is almost epic.
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No, yours is actually obvious. :P
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Definitely this. Lol
This is a cool song. I didn’t care for the swearing though.
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Definitely this. Lol
This is a cool song. I didn’t care for the swearing though.
Thank you.
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How am I just realizing someone sent Jesse's Girl 2 :lol
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How am I just realizing someone sent Jesse's Girl 2 :lol
You'd think J-Boy was playing again. ;D
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First Impressions
This feels pretty average.
Enjoyable song. Not sure if it’ll stand out though.
I like where this went in the second half.
Pretty cool immediate rocker.
The Suffering
Evaregia The Faithful
The Crowing
Gravemaker & Gunslinger
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First Impressions
This feels pretty average.
Enjoyable song. Not sure if it’ll stand out though.
I like where this went in the second half.
Pretty cool immediate rocker.
The Suffering
Evaregia The Faithful
The Crowing
Gravemaker & Gunslinger
You got one!
And, after two listens, I expect this song to get one of the better scores...
Unless it tanks.. :corn
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First Impressions
Pretty cool immediate rocker.
Gravemaker & Gunslinger
You got one!
And, after two listens, I expect this song to get one of the better scores...
Unless it tanks.. :corn
Hey, at least I'm not sharing the score with anyone else for this song :biggrin:
Alright so one more guess
Parts of this are metal! - The Crowing
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No it’s not. I know some of these are vague.
If you can get within 3 I’ll give it.
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No it’s not. I know some of these are vague.
If you can get within 3 I’ll give it.
Yeah, these might be the most vague first impressions yet! :corn
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No it’s not. I know some of these are vague.
If you can get within 3 I’ll give it.
Yeah, these might be the most vague first impressions yet! :corn
Are they? Well most of the songs sound a lot alike. I guess it'd be like having a Dog Round and saying This one has long ears, and this one has fluffy fur.
I'll solve it in a bit.
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Here are the First Impressions for everyone!
Professor
Welcome Home
This song certainly is good. But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.
The End Complete III: The End Complete
Parts of this are metal!
Vmadera
Gravemakers & Gunslinger
Pretty cool immediate rocker.
The Dark Sentencer
This is a cool song. I didn’t care for the swearing though.
Kingshmegland
Welcome Home
This song certainly is good. But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.
The Dark Sentencer
This is a cool song. I didn’t care for the swearing though.
Buddy
Welcome Home
This song certainly is good. But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.
In Keeping Secrets Of Silent Earth:3
This is almost epic
Romdrums
Welcome Home
This song certainly is good. But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.
Key Entity Extaction IV:Evagria The Faithful
I didn’t not like this song, but I found it a tad unexciting.
Cyril
No World For Tomorrow
Enjoyable song. Not sure if it’ll stand out though.
The Willing Well IV:The Final Cut
That was really nice
Stadler
The Dark Sentencer
This is a cool song. I didn’t care for the swearing though.
Jessie’s Girl 2
WTF is this?
HOF
All On Fire
Not sure why….but I like this song.
Atlas
This is a nice song that needs to do a bit more to stand out.
LudwigVan
Key Entities Extraction V: Sentry The Defiant
For a relatively short song, this song has a lot of depth.
Goodnight Fair Lady
Thin Lizzy Round!
Puppies
Gravity’s Union
This takes a while to get there but it’s pretty satisfying in the end.
The Willing Well IV:The Final Cut
That was really nice
425
No World For Tomorrow
Enjoyable song. Not sure if it’ll stand out though.
Gravity’s Union
This takes a while to get there but it’s pretty satisfying in the end.
Lonestar
The Gutter
I like where this song went in the second half.
In Keeping Secrets Of Silent Earth:3
This is almost epic.
Elite
Welcome Home
This song certainly is good. But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.
The Suffering
Hmm..I don’t know about this one.
Kwyjibo
Crossing The Frame
This feels pretty average.
Gravity’s Union
This takes a while to get there but it’s pretty satisfying in the end.
Ariich
Key Entity Extraction I: Domino The Destitute
This will take a few more listens to sink in.
Gravity’s Union
This takes a while to get there but it’s pretty satisfying in the end.
Evermind
Welcome Home
This song certainly is good. But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.
Ten Speed (Of God’s Blood & Burial)
I suppose that sometimes it helps to actually know the song.
Wolfking
Welcome Home
This song certainly is good. But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.
The Crowing
This was a bit iffy when it started, but it won me over.
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That's good with The Crowing as I fell asleep half way through it. :lol (Not cause of the song, just cause I was dog tired)
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2:46 of The End Complete :metal
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2:46 of The End Complete :metal
They played that song in the recent tour (to my surprise) and it sounded soo good!, Not as good as The Final Cut but still.
https://youtu.be/pb7ZQPRGyMQ
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2:46 of The End Complete :metal
Had to rub my eyes. Is that one of my songs being raved about?!?!? That is my favorite Coheed album. Just something about it. Clicked on the first listen.
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2:46 of The End Complete :metal
They played that song in the recent tour (to my surprise) and it sounded soo good!, Not as good as The Final Cut but still.
https://youtu.be/pb7ZQPRGyMQ
Other than Claudio, they look like dudes from the parent pickup line at school. :lol
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Had to rub my eyes.
I had to rub my ears. ;D
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2:46 of The End Complete :metal
They played that song in the recent tour (to my surprise) and it sounded soo good!, Not as good as The Final Cut but still.
https://youtu.be/pb7ZQPRGyMQ
Other than Claudio, they look like dudes from the parent pickup line at school. :lol
I told the story before of me working at Guitar Center and Claudio being a regular customer when not on tour (Brooklyn store). But I also would see him at Comic Con every year when he was promoting The Amory Wars. You would think he was some geeky store owner if you don't know who he is.
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Kinda funny how a lot of these bands defy expectations on how we think they would look.
I remember when the video for Threshold's Small Dark Lines came out I had the thought that the accounting firm of Groom & West looked ready to do my taxes. Just don't expect to hear that kind of music out of dudes that look like accountants or attorneys.
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The riff at 2:53 of The Crowing :metal
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Kinda funny how a lot of these bands defy expectations on how we think they would look.
I remember when the video for Threshold's Small Dark Lines came out I had the thought that the accounting firm of Groom & West looked ready to do my taxes. Just don't expect to hear that kind of music out of dudes that look like accountants or attorneys.
Watching Karl play live and play some very adequate guitar solos is quite a humbling and funny thing hey. It's cool and refreshing. :lol
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The riff at 2:53 of The Crowing :metal
I should listen to the full thing hey!?
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The riff at 2:53 of The Crowing :metal
I should listen to the full thing hey!?
The first half would be the half to sleep to. :lol
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Kinda funny how a lot of these bands defy expectations on how we think they would look.
I remember when the video for Threshold's Small Dark Lines came out I had the thought that the accounting firm of Groom & West looked ready to do my taxes. Just don't expect to hear that kind of music out of dudes that look like accountants or attorneys.
I haven't listened to Threshold since Mac.
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Kinda funny how a lot of these bands defy expectations on how we think they would look.
I remember when the video for Threshold's Small Dark Lines came out I had the thought that the accounting firm of Groom & West looked ready to do my taxes. Just don't expect to hear that kind of music out of dudes that look like accountants or attorneys.
I haven't listened to Threshold since Mac.
Do you not like Glynn? He seems like he would be right up your alley.
I get people not being Damian fans, but Glynn is amazing.
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Last album was really good.
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Kinda funny how a lot of these bands defy expectations on how we think they would look.
I remember when the video for Threshold's Small Dark Lines came out I had the thought that the accounting firm of Groom & West looked ready to do my taxes. Just don't expect to hear that kind of music out of dudes that look like accountants or attorneys.
I haven't listened to Threshold since Mac.
Do you not like Glynn? He seems like he would be right up your alley.
I get people not being Damian fans, but Glynn is amazing.
Too many bands too little time.
He's been on the last couple albums right? I just haven't taken the time to really check them out. Don't really have a good reason other than to say that I just haven't been drawn to it.
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Last studio and live album and he will be on the next one.
https://youtu.be/e9NCuOe4zJk
EDIT: Now I want to bust out Legends. I wore that album out when it came out. So good.
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Last studio and live album and he will be on the next one.
https://youtu.be/e9NCuOe4zJk
If that's the best song on the album, I'm not going to bother. ;D
And holy shit does that video fucking blow. I mean, the band footage is fine. Good actually. But the body painting? Fuck right off! Draw a line for each regret. What emo bullshit.
Sorry Professor..not directing that at you. :lol
That video set me off. :lol :lol
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Last studio and live album and he will be on the next one.
https://youtu.be/e9NCuOe4zJk
If that's the best song on the album, I'm not going to bother. ;D
And holy shit does that video fucking blow. I mean, the band footage is fine. Good actually. But the body painting? Fuck right off! Draw a line for each regret. What emo bullshit.
Sorry Professor..not directing that at you. :lol
That video set me off. :lol :lol
I have no idea what video this is or what the song is, but I can't wait to find out. :lol
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How am I just realizing someone sent Jesse's Girl 2 :lol
You'd think J-Boy was playing again. ;D
Given the bands for the rest of the roulette, j-boy isn't even following the thread ;D
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Just starting some writeups...
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Just starting some writeups...
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How am I just realizing someone sent Jesse's Girl 2 :lol
You'd think J-Boy was playing again. ;D
Given the bands for the rest of the roulette, j-boy isn't even following the thread ;D
Just starting some writeups...
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I see........
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Last studio and live album and he will be on the next one.
https://youtu.be/e9NCuOe4zJk
If that's the best song on the album, I'm not going to bother. ;D
And holy shit does that video fucking blow. I mean, the band footage is fine. Good actually. But the body painting? Fuck right off! Draw a line for each regret. What emo bullshit.
Sorry Professor..not directing that at you. :lol
That video set me off. :lol :lol
Lol, brilliant. The video wasn't that bad. :lol
But yeah, if you didn't like that song, stay well away.
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The song was ok I guess, and the band footage was excellent.
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The song was ok I guess, and the band footage was excellent.
Probably some attractive people painting themselves would have worked a bit better. :lol
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The song was ok I guess, and the band footage was excellent.
Probably some attractive people painting themselves would have worked a bit better. :lol
Ya think? :lol
Still, the concept blew. ;D
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Alright alright its dumb, I admit it, happy now? :biggrin:
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Well, I don't regret it. ;D
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Listening to Bleak now, it's so fucking obvious it's Wilson singing. Damn I feel like an absolute muppet! :facepalm:
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Listening to Bleak now, it's so fucking obvious it's Wilson singing. Damn I feel like an absolute muppet! :facepalm:
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Looking ahead, I think I have my songs from Opeth and Mastodon selected. I have no idea what to send from PT.
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I'm in the process of putting writeups together, which means I'm currently listening again. I have about half of the songs done.
Lots of good stuff.
A lot of these songs have a very simply structure..verse-chorus-verse-chorus-a bridge before or after the solo-closing chorus repeated.
Ranking them isn't really the problem, but what is taking time is that I usually do writeups while listening. But these songs end, and I realize I hadn't written anything, so I have to listen again to try and scratch out comments.
Lots of these songs are extremely solid and I like them, but there's just not a ton to point to like "Holy shit this part was awesome" or "That was incredible". What I'm finding is that these songs all have strong choruses, so the comments feel a bit slow coming.
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Which is probably a by-product of doing a band-per-round roulette ... no matter how diverse the writing or recording, there's always going to be some elements of 'samey-ness' when you've to 25+ songs from the same artist
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Which is probably a by-product of doing a band-per-round roulette ... no matter how diverse the writing or recording, there's always going to be some elements of 'samey-ness' when you've to 25+ songs from the same artist
Yeah. The Devin and Haken rounds had quite a bit of diversity. The BTBAM was exhausting to get through, and while the Neal Morse round certainly had diversity it was 27 fucking songs of Neal Morse! :lol
Samey isn't the word I'd use, because to me, samey has a negative connotation and this round is anything but negative.
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coheed are way more of a pop-leaning act than any other band in this roulette so this is not really surprising
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Yeah, poppy in terms of structure, but I definitely don't think poppy while listening.
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I comend the time and patience you've put into this Tim. I definitely wouldn't have the attention span for it.
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It's cool. It's been totally worth it.
Anyway, finished the scratch writeups. Just have to work on final rankings and scores. I've really enjoyed this one.
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It's cool. It's been totally worth it.
Anyway, finished the scratch writeups. Just have to work on final rankings and scores. I've really enjoyed this one.
Sounds like we've done our jobs! :metal :metal
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It's cool. It's been totally worth it.
Anyway, finished the scratch writeups. Just have to work on final rankings and scores. I've really enjoyed this one.
Sounds like we've done our jobs! :metal :metal
Oh definitely. If I score a song 7.5, then I like it. I think there's only one song below that this round.
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It's cool. It's been totally worth it.
Anyway, finished the scratch writeups. Just have to work on final rankings and scores. I've really enjoyed this one.
That's awesome :metal Coheed is a really fun band to listen to, so I'm sure you'll enjoy some of their other work.
One thing I'll add, Claudio is a hell of a front man, and their music really comes true live.
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LudwigVan mentioned C&C drawing on classic rock influencers. I made a number of comparisons in the writeups..
This has a great intro, acoustic then full band. Feels like some classic metal Rainbow/Sabbath/Maiden.
Martin Era Sabbath perhaps.
The solo at 4:10 reminded me of Paul Chapman’s solo in Waysted’s Land That’s Lost The Love.
I love the garage style of classic GnR with a touch of NWOBHM.
This song reminds me of U2.
The solo section feels like Pink Floyd/Led Zeppelin mashup.
The guitars at the beginning sound like something off of Unmasked.
Feels like Jimmy Page is playing underneath it.
This has a Thin Lizzy feel in the verses.
A tribute to Thin Lizzy, obviously.
This song has a real early 80’s feel to it.
The guitars remind me of Thin Lizzy.
The guitar reminds me of Janick Gers playing underneath the vocals and then by itself.
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*guy who has only ever listened to Thin Lizzy, listening to another band for the first time* hmm, getting Thin Lizzy vibes off this...
(i kid but also i am familiar with like two thin lizzy songs so i don't know what to do with that comparison myself :lol)
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*guy who has only ever listened to Thin Lizzy, listening to another band for the first time* hmm, getting Thin Lizzy vibes off this...
(i kid but also i am familiar with like two thin lizzy songs so i don't know what to do with that comparison myself :lol)
Was gonna say, I somehow missed all the songs that sound like Thin Lizzy when I was scanning the discography for things to send. But I’m also not as versed in Thin Lizzy as TAC.
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Goodnight Fair Lady is "the tribute to Thin Lizzy". Musically obviously, but also lots of lyrical references.
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Goodnight Fair Lady is "the tribute to Thin Lizzy". Musically obviously, but also lots of lyrical references.
I don't know why I never picked up on this before.....Learn something new every day. :corn
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The Hard Sell isn’t in the roulette, but that guitar solo is all about David Gilmour.
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The Hard Sell isn’t in the roulette, but that guitar solo is all about David Gilmour.
Sent it with a wild card, got eliminated :'(
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Apparently The Hard Sell was a ...hard sell.
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Ranking the Entities..
1. Domino
2. Sentry
3. Evagria
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Ranking the Entities..
1. Domino
2. Sentry
3. Evagria
Might be worth listening to the other 2 at some point, Holly Wood the Cracked and Vic the Butcher.
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Sentry Evagria, oh I want to take ya
Domino, Vic, come on pretty mama
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So the scores are tallied.
Scores by round:
Devin Townsend:8.0
Haken:7.8
BTBAM:7.75
Neal Morse:7.95
C&C:8.0
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Coheed > Neal Morse, confirmed :corn
Expecting I'm getting a worse score this round than last round though :lol
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Scoreheed & Camsults!
Professor
Welcome Home...8.0
This song certainly is good. But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.
This has a great intro, acoustic then full band. Feels like some classic metal Rainbow/Sabbath/Maiden.
Martin Era Sabbath perhaps. Not a fan of mid tempo generally. But this keeps moving. Not sure who is who, but I like the guitarist in my right ear during the solo. The gang styled chants at the end of the solo are a nice touch. This song ultimately delivers even though I was getting worried during the initial verses.
The End Complete III: The End Complete...8.6
Parts of this are metal!
Is it me, or does the “Dig Deeper” part remind me of DT’s Losing Time chorus? I love where this song goes at 2:48. Sick! The solo at 4:10 reminded me of Paul Chapman’s solo in Waysted’s Land That’s Lost The Love. Now, if we could’ve just cut off the last minute and a half…
8.0+8.6=16.6/2=8.3
Vmadera
Gravemakers & Gunslinger...8.8
Pretty cool immediate rocker.
Now this is how I like music. Up tempo. I love the garage style of classic GnR with a touch of NWOBHM.
The Hello Kitty voice in the middle call back section was a little strange though. Really excellent solo. Definite winner!
The Dark Sentencer...8.4
This is a cool song. I didn’t care for the swearing though.
This song has some similarities with Welcome Home through the first few minutes, albeit at a slightly quicker tempo. I’ am really not a fan of the use of swearing through the song though. Once,..ok, fine. Unless this is some comic book character and that’s his calling card, but even still. I love the “Welcome Home” part with the gang vocals on the beat. An excellent outro.
I like the way this ends, but it feels a tad long. Still a good song though.
8.8+8.4=19.2/2=8.6
Kingshmegland
Welcome Home...8.0
This song certainly is good. But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.
This has a great intro, acoustic then full band. Feels like some classic metal Rainbow/Sabbath/Maiden.
Martin Era Sabbath perhaps. Not a fan of mid tempo generally. But this keeps moving. Not sure who is who, but I like the guitarist in my right ear during the solo. The gang styled chants at the end of the solo are a nice touch. This song ultimately delivers even though I was getting worried during the initial verses.
The Dark Sentencer...8.4
This is a cool song. I didn’t care for the swearing though.
This song has some similarities with Welcome Home through the first few minutes, albeit at a slightly quicker tempo. I’ am really not a fan of the use of swearing through the song though. Once,..ok, fine. Unless this is some comic book character and that’s his calling card, but even still. I love the “Welcome Home” part with the gang vocals on the beat. An excellent outro.
I like the way this ends, but it feels a tad long. Still a good song though.
8.0+8.4=16.4/2=8.2
Buddy
Welcome Home...8.0
This song certainly is good. But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.
This has a great intro, acoustic then full band. Feels like some classic metal Rainbow/Sabbath/Maiden.
Martin Era Sabbath perhaps. Not a fan of mid tempo generally. But this keeps moving. Not sure who is who, but I like the guitarist in my right ear during the solo. The gang styled chants at the end of the solo are a nice touch. This song ultimately delivers even though I was getting worried during the initial verses.
In Keeping Secrets Of Silent Earth:3...8.4
This is almost epic
Cool intro. Feels like something good is coming up. I like the rhythm for the verse. Another fantastic chorus. The bridge in this is cool. I love how they ramp it up, and pull it back. From 6:53 on, it’s glorious, and reminds me of Constantine’s The Darkest Grace.
8.0+8.4=16.4/2=8.2
Romdrums
Welcome Home...8.0
This song certainly is good. But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.
This has a great intro, acoustic then full band. Feels like some classic metal Rainbow/Sabbath/Maiden.
Martin Era Sabbath perhaps. Not a fan of mid tempo generally. But this keeps moving. Not sure who is who, but I like the guitarist in my right ear during the solo. The gang styled chants at the end of the solo are a nice touch. This song ultimately delivers even though I was getting worried during the initial verses.
Key Entity Extaction IV:Evagria The Faithful...7.6
I didn’t not like this song, but I found it a tad unexciting.
This song reminds me of U2. The thing about this song is that it starts and eventually ends, and I just can’t put my finger on what happens in the middle. It’s not unpleasant by any stretch. It’s actually quite nice, yet fairly unremarkable.
8.0+7.6=15.6/2=7.8
Cyril
No World For Tomorrow...8.0
Enjoyable song. Not sure if it’ll stand out though.
I don’t know if I have a lot of specific comments about this song, other than to say that I did like it, not love it. It might have one of my least favorite vocals too. If this was the only song I’d heard, I’m not sure I’d be convinced to follow up on C&C.
The Willing Well IV:The Final Cut...8.7
That was really nice
This features some real nice and steady guitar work. The vocal sections really do a great job of setting up the magnificent solo section. The solo section feels like Pink Floyd/Led Zeppelin mashup. The solos are really powerful, and while the song doesn’t offer much deviance, that’s just fine, and this song maintains it’s quality throughout.
8.0+8.7=16.7/2=8.35
Stadler
The Dark Sentencer...8.4
This is a cool song. I didn’t care for the swearing though.
This song has some similarities with Welcome Home through the first few minutes, albeit at a slightly quicker tempo. I’ am really not a fan of the use of swearing through the song though. Once,..ok, fine. Unless this is some comic book character and that’s his calling card, but even still. I love the “Welcome Home” part with the gang vocals on the beat. An excellent outro.
I like the way this ends, but it feels a tad long. Still a good song though.
Jessie’s Girl 2...7.3
WTF is this?
The guitars at the beginning sound like something off of Unmasked. But that’s all I have for this.
8.4+7.3=15.7/2=7.85
HOF
All On Fire...8.0
Not sure why….but I like this song.
Nice piano intro. Upbeat track with interesting drumming. The chorus is really strong. The bridge at 2:50 is nice bit. Feels like Jimmy Page is playing underneath it. There’s something sticky sweet about this song that I really enjoy. Kind of sneaks up on you.
Atlas...7.9
This is a nice song that needs to do a bit more to stand out.
This has a Thin Lizzy feel in the verses. Really well built chorus. Great vocal on this song. The lyrics are really interesting. The final repeated chorus is really powerful. I liked this song a little more every time I listened to it. A real grower.
8.0+7.9=15.9/2=7.95
LudwigVan
Key Entities Extraction V: Sentry The Defiant...8.0
For a relatively short song, this song has a lot of depth.
This song has a strength about it. It’s solid, but feels heavy. There’s some tasty lead licks playing behind the vocals at times. The song is a tad unremarkable in a way, yet it’s still powerful.
Goodnight Fair Lady...8.6
Thin Lizzy Round!
A tribute to Thin Lizzy, obviously. Even lyrically. Kind of like what Dangerous Toys did for Alice Cooper with Scared.
8.0+8.6=16.6/2=8.3
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Puppies
Gravity’s Union...7.7
This takes a while to get there but it’s pretty satisfying in the end.
This song begins and ends with a tortured pig. In between, we have a solid, if unspectatular song. The chorus is quite nice, and the outro part before the pig returns is really good. The lead guitar from 3:55 through next softer part is excellent.
Solid track.
The Willing Well IV:The Final Cut...8.7
That was really nice
This features some real nice and steady guitar work. The vocal sections really do a great job of setting up the magnificent solo section. The solo section feels like Pink Floyd/Led Zeppelin mashup. The solos are really powerful, and while the song doesn’t offer much deviance, that’s just fine, and this song maintains it’s quality throughout.
7.7+8.7=16.4/2=8.20
425
No World For Tomorrow...8.0
Enjoyable song. Not sure if it’ll stand out though.
I don’t know if I have a lot of specific comments about this song, other than to say that I did like it, not love it. It might have one of my least favorite vocals too. If this was the only song I’d heard, I’m not sure I’d be convinced to follow up on C&C.
Gravity’s Union...7.7
This takes a while to get there but it’s pretty satisfying in the end.
This song begins and ends with a tortured pig. In between, we have a solid, if unspectatular song. The chorus is quite nice, and the outro part before the pig returns is really good. The lead guitar from 3:55 through next softer part is excellent.
Solid track.
8.0+7.7=15.7/2=7.85
Lonestar
The Gutter...7.6
I like where this song went in the second half.
This is really a song of two halfs. The first half is fairly forgettable, but the second half is beautiful and memorable. Perhaps, it’s not as beautiful without the first half, but I doubt it.
In Keeping Secrets Of Silent Earth:3...8.4
This is almost epic.
Cool intro. Feels like something good is coming up. I like the rhythm for the verse. Another fantastic chorus. The bridge in this is cool. I love how they ramp it up, and pull it back. From 6:53 on, it’s glorious, and reminds me of Constantine’s The Darkest Grace.
7.6+8.4=16/2=8.0
Elite
Welcome Home...8.0
This song certainly is good. But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.
This has a great intro, acoustic then full band. Feels like some classic metal Rainbow/Sabbath/Maiden.
Martin Era Sabbath perhaps. Not a fan of mid tempo generally. But this keeps moving. Not sure who is who, but I like the guitarist in my right ear during the solo. The gang styled chants at the end of the solo are a nice touch. This song ultimately delivers even though I was getting worried during the initial verses.
The Suffering...7.6
Hmm..I don’t know about this one.
This song didn’t do well on the first listen, but I must say the chorus became kind of an earworm.
8.0+7.6=15.6/2=7.8
Kwyjibo
Crossing The Frame...7.5
This feels pretty average.
This song has a real early 80’s feel to it. It’s fairly ordinary though. The bridge is really nice with the female vocals, especially the second lines when Claudio comes back in. A pleasant listen for sure.
Gravity’s Union...7.7
This takes a while to get there but it’s pretty satisfying in the end.
This song begins and ends with a tortured pig. In between, we have a solid, if unspectatular song. The chorus is quite nice, and the outro part before the pig returns is really good. The lead guitar from 3:55 through next softer part is excellent.
Solid track.
7.5+7.7=15.2/2=7.6
Ariich
Key Entity Extraction I: Domino The Destitute...8.4
This will take a few more listens to sink in.
Cool guitar intro and interesting drum pattern in the verses. The chorus in this song is amazing. The last line of it has a power metal feel to it. The bridge never loses it’s pace despite a drop in tempo. Couldn’t wait for the final chorus on this. This song doesn’t feel 8 minutes long. Really cool.
Gravity’s Union...7.7
This takes a while to get there but it’s pretty satisfying in the end.
This song begins and ends with a tortured pig. In between, we have a solid, if unspectatular song. The chorus is quite nice, and the outro part before the pig returns is really good. The lead guitar from 3:55 through next softer part is excellent.
Solid track.
8.4+7.7=16.1/2=8.05
Evermind
Welcome Home...8.0
This song certainly is good. But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.
This has a great intro, acoustic then full band. Feels like some classic metal Rainbow/Sabbath/Maiden.
Martin Era Sabbath perhaps. Not a fan of mid tempo generally. But this keeps moving. Not sure who is who, but I like the guitarist in my right ear during the solo. The gang styled chants at the end of the solo are a nice touch. This song ultimately delivers even though I was getting worried during the initial verses.
Ten Speed (Of God’s Blood & Burial)...7.6
I suppose that sometimes it helps to actually know the song.
I was not impressed on first listen. This has gotten better with each listen though. The guitars remind me of Thin Lizzy.
8.0+7.6=15.6/2=7.8
Wolfking
Welcome Home...8.0
This song certainly is good. But I guess I had higher expectations for the most sent song.
This has a great intro, acoustic then full band. Feels like some classic metal Rainbow/Sabbath/Maiden.
Martin Era Sabbath perhaps. Not a fan of mid tempo generally. But this keeps moving. Not sure who is who, but I like the guitarist in my right ear during the solo. The gang styled chants at the end of the solo are a nice touch. This song ultimately delivers even though I was getting worried during the initial verses.
The Crowing...7.8
This was a bit iffy when it started, but it won me over.
This has kind of a slow (to excite, not tempo) opening. The song seems to wake up a bit around 2:10. The guitar reminds me of Jannick Gers playing underneath the vocals and then by themselves. Love the riff at 2:55. The song dips a bit in the middle, but gears back up for a satisfying ending.
8.0+7.8=15.8/2=7.9
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Round 5 Results
Vmadera...8.60
Cyril...8.35
LugwigVan...8.30
Professor...8.30
Kingshmegland...8.20
Buddy...8.20
Puppies...8.20
Ariich...8.05
Lonestar...8.00
HOF...7.95
Wolfking...7.90
425...7.85
Stadler...7.85
Elite...7.80
Romdrums...7.80
Evermind...7.80
Kwyjibo...7.60
Standings!
Puppies...8.60+8.15+8.25+8.35+8.20=41.55
Ariich...9.0+8.15+7.60+7.85+8.05=40.65
Cyril...7.55+8.25+7.95+8.45+8.35=40.65
VMadera...8.45+7.35+7.95+8.30+8.60=40.65
Kwyjibo...7.80+8.75+7.65+8.15=32.35+7.60=39.95
Kingshmegland...7.70+8.25+7.85+7.85+8.20=39.85
Romdrums...8.25+7.65+8.25+7.8=31.95+7.80=39.75
LudwigVan...8.35+7.55+7.35+7.90+8.30=39.45
Wolfking...7.80+7.6+8.10+8.0+7.90=39.40
425...7.90+7.40+7.65+8.45+7.85=39.25
Buddy...7.05+8.15+7.75+8.05+8.20=39.20
Professor...8.20+7.6+7.0+8.05+8.30=39.15
Stadler...8.50+7.75+7.35+7.55+7.85=39.00
Evermind...8.20+7.75+7.55+7.45=30.95+7.80=38.75
HOF...7.65+7.50+8.05+7.60+7.95=38.75
Elite...7.50+7.75+7.60+7.90+7.80=38.55
Lonestar...7.80+7.25+7.85+7.40+8.0=38.30
As always, check my math!!
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As always, check my math!!
Does anyone actually do this? I know I sure as hell don't.
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Well that was unexpected! :metal
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As always, check my math!!
Does anyone actually do this? I know I sure as hell don't.
Mistakes do get pointed out, though miraculously, it hasn't happened yet in this roulette.
For some reason, this one has been the hardest to keep straight.
Well that was unexpected! :metal
Tell me about it! :P
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Sent for Opeth.
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Sent for Opeth.
Same. Not a lot of thought for this one truthfully. Ghost Reveries is by far the best thing from Opeth for me and not liking their later stuff, narrowed down the choices but the two songs I sent are pretty clear cut on what I enjoy from them.
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Sent for Opeth.
Same. Not a lot of thought for this one truthfully. Ghost Reveries is by far the best thing from Opeth for me and not liking their later stuff, narrowed down the choices but the two songs I sent are pretty clear cut on what I enjoy from them.
If I was bold, I would have sent something from Orchid, but I don't think he'd care for that record. I love it, personally.
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I don't think I'd care for any of them. :lol
We'll see.
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Coheed > Neal Morse, confirmed :corn
Expecting I'm getting a worse score this round than last round though :lol
Technically, yes :rollin though second in the round overall anyways :corn
In Keeping Secrets would totally have been my rocker pick if I felt more confident in the vocals too, woops
Sticking to my Opethy guns, I think
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I suspect my trend of doing better with bands I'm less familiar with will continue into this next round. :lol
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Coheed > Neal Morse, confirmed :corn
Expecting I'm getting a worse score this round than last round though :lol
Technically, yes :rollin though second in the round overall anyways :corn
In Keeping Secrets would totally have been my rocker pick if I felt more confident in the vocals too, woops
Sticking to my Opethy guns, I think
There's a badassness about In Keeping Secrets though.
I really had no idea where No World For Tomorrow would end up when I had my first listen. But it was steadfastly solid, and I really couldn't argue much over it.
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I suspect my trend of doing better with bands I'm less familiar with will continue into this next round. :lol
:lol
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Sent for Opeth.
Same. Not a lot of thought for this one truthfully. Ghost Reveries is by far the best thing from Opeth for me and not liking their later stuff, narrowed down the choices but the two songs I sent are pretty clear cut on what I enjoy from them.
If I was bold, I would have sent something from Orchid, but I don't think he'd care for that record. I love it, personally.
I'm definitely not bold then.
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:metal Happy to see that TAC has taken a positive shine to C&C.
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Amazing that my best scores have been for BTBAM and C&C so far.
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:metal Happy to see that TAC has taken a positive shine to C&C.
Yes, very impressed! That round was really easy in the ears.
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5 people in for Opeth...and I'm at an hour and a half.
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Quick! Someone send Black Rose Immortal. That'll add another 20 min to his time.
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Just added another 12 minutes (would be surprised if anyone else sends what I did).
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Just added another 12 minutes (would be surprised if anyone else sends what I did).
One song has been sent already. ;D
No actual titles to be discussed in the thread until everyone is in.
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Just added another 12 minutes (would be surprised if anyone else sends what I did).
One song has been sent already. ;D
No actual titles to be discussed in the thread until everyone is in.
Ah, less work for you then!
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Yes, plus I am currently in the process of eliminating someone's Wild Card™.
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5 people in for Opeth...and I'm at an hour and a half.
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Amazing that my best scores have been for BTBAM and C&C so far.
Let that sink in.. :lol
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I did not expect those songs to perform so low, relatively speaking! I know the sound you're talking about not liking on Gravity's Union, but I can't say that's ever really bothered me, personally. And NWFT to me is just all killer all the way through, so that's one of those "tastes" moments. I do think it's cool that Gravemakers and Gunslingers did so well. That's not a song I ever really think of except when I'm listening to that album, but it's really good.
I don't have a solid idea of the right way to approach Opeth here, so I'm just going to send two songs I like from the era that is more likely to perform well, I guess.
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I did not expect those songs to perform so low, relatively speaking! I know the sound you're talking about not liking on Gravity's Union, but I can't say that's ever really bothered me, personally. And NWFT to me is just all killer all the way through, so that's one of those "tastes" moments.
NWFT got the 5th best score given in the round with only 6 other songs above it. I'd say it scored fairly well. :)
I didn't not like Gravity's Union, and I could easily look past the pig. But for me, I just thought there were better songs.
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I guess I should learn to compare the scores instead of just reading the writeups!
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I guess I should learn to compare the scores instead of just reading the writeups!
Well, that's a brutal writeup I did for NWFT. Let's just say it grew on me. ;D
That writeup could've used some amending.
I feel like I might've had a copy/paste issue at some point.
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Yes, plus I am currently in the process of eliminating someone's Wild Card™.
:corn
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8 people in
13 songs
1h58m
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8 people in
13 songs
1h58m
Just sent...
Also, amazingly, I'm still in the lead! :metal
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I guess I should learn to compare the scores instead of just reading the writeups!
You should learn to clear out your inbox mate.
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Sent for Opeth, which was very difficult, because they have so many great songs.
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Ouch, guess generating some random numbers with excel and then sending the corresponding songs doesn't really work for me. ;D
Will sent for Opeth in a bit, should I sent what probably most people will send or should I go down a different road?
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Ouch, guess generating some random numbers with excel and then sending the corresponding songs doesn't really work for me. ;D
Will sent for Opeth in a bit, should I sent what probably most people will send or should I go down a different road?
What will most people send?
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Ouch, guess generating some random numbers with excel and then sending the corresponding songs doesn't really work for me. ;D
Will sent for Opeth in a bit, should I sent what probably most people will send or should I go down a different road?
What will most people send?
We'll see, but I'm quite sure, that my choices aren't solely sent by me.
Also: sent
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I figured TAC would get Bleak at least three times, so I sent something different
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I did not send Bleak.
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Sent! At first I thought the songs I was sending would be somewhat unique, but they are both in the top 10 for Opeth on Spotify, so now I expect both songs were sent by others :)
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Both of my songs are pre-Heritage
One of them is an obvious long song (but which one?!?!) that I love to death but might be too much for Tim
The other is one of their best blends of prog and metal imo but might be too weird for Tim
I don't expect to do very well this round. :lol
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Sent! At first I thought the songs I was sending would be somewhat unique, but they are both in the top 10 for Opeth on Spotify, so now I expect both songs were sent by others :)
One of them has been sent twice already.
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14 in
18 songs
2h40m
Waiting on..
Evermind
Stadler
LudwigVan
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Sent! At first I thought the songs I was sending would be somewhat unique, but they are both in the top 10 for Opeth on Spotify, so now I expect both songs were sent by others :)
Their top 10 on Spotify is fucking weird. Some obvious ones on there like Ghost Of Perdition and Windowpane but why is their Soldier Of Fortune cover at #2? Why the fuck is Persephone there? :lol
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These top 10 lists on spotify are shit. I noticed that for other artists before.
Persephone has 4 million plays and is in the top 10, Harvest has 9 million plays and is not in.
There's probably some logic behind it, that I don't understand.
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I did not send Bleak.
Nor I, even though it probably is my favorite. I assumed he'd get at least 5 Bleaks from others. I went wild card this round. 2 songs pre-Blackwater and 1 post-Heritage. I tend to think I went a bit obscure on my early picks, but we'll see.
I'll see how Bleak does here and then maybe send it in the PT round. :biggrin:
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I'll see how Bleak does here and then maybe send it in the PT round. :biggrin:
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These top 10 lists on spotify are shit. I noticed that for other artists before.
Persephone has 4 million plays and is in the top 10, Harvest has 9 million plays and is not in.
There's probably some logic behind it, that I don't understand.
I think that songs that are on popular curated playlists can sometimes get a lot of plays. Like that Soldier of Fortune cover could be on various cover song compilation playlists.
I also did not send Bleak but similarly sent two pre-Heritage songs. (I like post-Heritage just fine, Heritage itself is kind of eh)
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That Soldier Of Fortune cover is spectacular. I'd fight anybody that criticizes Mikael's vocals on that song. He is awesome on that track. That track is the pinnacle of his clean singing.
Heritage is my least favorite Opeth album. Many would cite Orchid, but as I mentioned earlier, I adore that album. The guitar harmonies that Mikael now calls hokey, I absolutely love. I'm not as big on Morningrise, but it's still light-years better than Heritage.
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Heritage is just a big disappointment. And no, it's not that there are no growls, it's because there are no good songs.
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I love Heritage. It and Watershed remain my favorite Opeth albums.
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Heritage is just a big disappointment. And no, it's not that there are no growls, it's because there are no good songs.
Out of the last 3 it's my least favorite. I'd rank the last three albums from worst to best as they came out. I think they are just getting better figuring out how to write heavy without the growls.
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18 songs
2h40m
Waiting on..
Evermind
Stadler
LudwigVan
It hasn't even been 24 hours, what's up with the name shaming?
Also yeah I definitely should've sent The Final Cut.
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Do you feel shame? :blush :lol
No, that's not my intent. You'll know when it's my intent! :P
It just helps me keep things straight.
We've all run roulettes before, and know that the listening is the easy part. It's the typing/formatting/organizing that is the pain in the ass, and this roulette, for some reason, has given me nightmares in this regard.
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Do you feel shame? :blush :lol
Definitely not anymore because I just sent :lol
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Yay me with the worst song of the round!!!!
I'll have Opeth to you by end of the day, most likely.
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Yay me with the worst song of the round!!!!
I'll have Opeth to you by end of the day, most likely.
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both of my songs have been sent multiple times, i'm sure
i'm not going with the most unique picks i'm going with the best ones
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both of my songs have been sent multiple times, i'm sure
i'm not going with the most unique picks i'm going with the best ones
Oh, so you sent the same songs as me. :D
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both of my songs have been sent multiple times, i'm sure
i'm not going with the most unique picks i'm going with the best ones
I sent the worst ones
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When TAC hates every song there is no difference between best and worst :corn
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When TAC hates every song there is no difference between best and worst :corn
My mindset was to try and send the songs he would hate the least :P
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We've all failed that challenge!
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I think no one sent the songs I sent, but then as I said in PM to Tim, I'm not exactly competing for the first place :biggrin:
Pity Heritage is banned, I would've sent Folklore
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Folklore is so good.
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I'm a Heritage defender. It's their best post-Watershed album for sure. Dunno how people can say it has no good songs when The Devil's Orchard and Folklore exist. And while Sorceress and In Cauda Venenum might be heavier, Heritage makes up for it with much more atmosphere, which is one of the most important things about Opeth. Songs like Haxprocess and Famine are so fucking dark and dreary and I love it.
Whenever someone criticizes Heritage I just swap it out with Pale Communion in my mind and suddenly the points make a lot more sense. :biggrin:
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I definitely agree with all of that. The atmosphere on that album is so powerful. Besides the four you pointed to, I'd also mention I Feel the Dark as a good song with a ton of atmosphere.
Pale Communion and Sorceress don't do much for me. They're both alright, but not particularly inspiring. I like In Cauda Venenum a lot better than them, but I wouldn't put it on the same level as Heritage.
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I think Pale Communion in particular is excellent (so is Heritage, but I prefer PC). Sorceress has some good tracks, but I could easily skip half of it.
I'm not very familiar with In Cauda Venenum, to be honest. I need to give it a few more listens.
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none of the post-growlpeth albums do a ton for me but uhh. i don't really remember any of heritage, i kinda liked pale communion but wouldn't relisten to it, sorceress i literally only listened to like twice, in cauda venenum i thought was solid but nothing amazing either. didn't consider any of these albums at all in my submissions :lol
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none of the post-growlpeth albums do a ton for me but uhh. i don't really remember any of heritage, i kinda liked pale communion but wouldn't relisten to it, sorceress i literally only listened to like twice, in cauda venenum i thought was solid but nothing amazing either. didn't consider any of these albums at all in my submissions :lol
This is me, except I actually do know Heritage quite well
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I completely lost interest from Heritage onwards. Can't get into anything they've done since that album.
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Well I made through the 21 song/3 hour playlist. I know Stadler is spending the night listening to the Opeth discography and will send hopefully tomorrow.
I realized that after about the 12th song that I hadn't written any First Impressions. So guess what..no first impressions this round!
But I will post some tidbits as I listen..
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I did not send Bleak.
Nor I, even though it probably is my favorite. I assumed he'd get at least 5 Bleaks from others. I went wild card this round. 2 songs pre-Blackwater and 1 post-Heritage. I tend to think I went a bit obscure on my early picks, but we'll see.
I'll see how Bleak does here and then maybe send it in the PT round. :biggrin:
Ooh, 2 pre-Blackwater Park songs is a ballsy move. Curious how that turns out. I almost sent something from My Arms, Your Hearse, but chickened out in the end.
And it appears nobody sent Bleak, considering the comments so far :lol
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I don't want to discuss songs until everybody is in.
Which meant that I had to modify my previous post. :lol
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I did not send Bleak.
Nor I, even though it probably is my favorite. I assumed he'd get at least 5 Bleaks from others. I went wild card this round. 2 songs pre-Blackwater and 1 post-Heritage. I tend to think I went a bit obscure on my early picks, but we'll see.
I'll see how Bleak does here and then maybe send it in the PT round. :biggrin:
Ooh, 2 pre-Blackwater Park songs is a ballsy move. Curious how that turns out. I almost sent something from My Arms, Your Hearse, but chickened out in the end.
And it appears nobody sent Bleak, considering the comments so far :lol
I almost sent something from Morningrise and chickened out as well :lol
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MAYH is one of their best albums though. I considered sending Karma. Demon Of The Fall would probably do decently well and I'd be surprised if nobody sent it.
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MAYH is one of their best albums though. I considered sending Karma. Demon Of The Fall would probably do decently well and I'd be surprised if nobody sent it.
MAYH is second only the Ghost Reveries, in my opinion. :metal
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Stadler should just send their covers of Soldier Of Fortune and Bridge Of Sighs. He'd probably win the round too. :lol
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Stadler should just send their covers of Soldier Of Fortune and Bridge Of Sighs. He'd probably win the round too. :lol
No he wouldn’t.
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Stadler should just send their covers of Soldier Of Fortune and Bridge Of Sighs. He'd probably win the round too. :lol
No he wouldn’t.
Good, I'd sincerely hope not.
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Stadler should just send their covers of Soldier Of Fortune and Bridge Of Sighs. He'd probably win the round too. :lol
No he wouldn’t.
Good, I'd sincerely hope not.
I'm in. I listened to the first part of Soldier of Fortune (I didn't listen all the way through) and what I heard was nice, but didn't bring anything new to the table. I submitted two songs, but I can't tell you how many times I was like "wow, this is musically way better than I remember..." then the vocals kicked in and I was like, "nope, this is what I remember!". I get it, contrast, light and dark, blah blah blah, but nah, I'm good. :)
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You probably sent bad songs then :neverusethis:
Have you tried either Damnation or the post-Heritage albums at all? There's no growls on those :)
More than any other round, I'm really, really curious to know what everyone has submitted!
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You probably sent bad songs then :neverusethis:
Look at my scores! You KNOW this is true! :) :) :)
Have you tried either Damnation or the post-Heritage albums at all? There's no growls on those :)
More than any other round, I'm really, really curious to know what everyone has submitted!
No, I listened to a fair amount of music that didn't have growls, and it was pretty good.
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Here are the entries!
Cyril
Bleak
Deliverance
Romdrums
The Leper Affinity
The Lotus Eater
Professor
Godhead’s Lament
When
Wolfking
Deliverence
Windowpane
Buddy
The Lotus Eater
Blackwater Park
HOF
Windowpane
Hope Leaves
425
Heir Apparent
The Lotus Eater
Lonestar
Dirge For November
Master’s Apprentice
Puppies
The Drapery Falls
Deliverance
Ariich
The Drapery Falls
Burden
Elite
When
April Ethereal
Kwyjibo
Bleak
The Drapery Falls
Vmadera
Face Of Melinda
Windopane
Kingshmegland
Sorceress
Dignity
Evermind
Will O The Wisp
Faith In Others
LudwigVan
The Funeral Portrait
The Drapery Falls
Stadler
Chrysalis
Harvest
Playlist here:
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2mzo5S9TodLCdoHLJvexNX?si=a598bda76d124d82
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HOF has the biggest balls and/or biggest distaste for Opeth of us all :lol
surprised to see only one other bleak submission. a bit less surprised to see a few other deliverance submissions.
the drapery falls is not a bad pick either to be fair
the sacred triangle this time around appears to be me/puppies/kwy
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Wow, and I thought I was bold sticking with MAYH and Still Life. Elite going all in on MAYH.
I'm also happy with my wild card elimination. Well, I hope I am. It was a backup and seeing it beat out the other 2 is at least somewhat encouraging.
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I'm surprised "Ghost of Perdition" wasn't sent
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I'm surprised "Ghost of Perdition" wasn't sent
Ghost Reveries and Heritage are banned.
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I'm surprised "Ghost of Perdition" wasn't sent
Ghost Reveries and Heritage are banned.
Um, something seems off with Stads second song.
I'm going to guess that's Harvest and not Heritage?
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I'm surprised "Ghost of Perdition" wasn't sent
Ghost Reveries and Heritage are banned.
yeah i'd have slapped on ghost of perdition in place of deliverance (or even doubled up on ghost reveries picks with baying or beneath the mire) if i were able to send from it :lol
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Ah. Makes sense now.
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Hell yeah unique songs :lol
I sent Faith in Others because I have faith in others for this round.
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I'm surprised "Ghost of Perdition" wasn't sent
Ghost Reveries and Heritage are banned.
Um, something seems off with Stads second song.
I'm going to guess that's Harvest and not Heritage?
Yes, it's Harvest and I fixed it. I told you this roulette is going to kill me.
That said, there's usually something off with most of Stadler's songs. ;D
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Hell yeah unique songs :lol
I sent Faith in Others because I have faith in others for this round.
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I mentioned that I'm not doing First Impressions for this round. I've heard most of the songs twice and I have no idea what I want to say. I feel like I could describe most of the songs the same way.
But I will post tidbits.
Here's one, only because I'm listening to it now..
The Solo at 1:15 in Dignity is strong!
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TAC's first impressions:
Nice heavy part
Nice acoustic part
Nice transition between the heavy and acoustic part
Not really digging this guys vocals
I think that about covers it.
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TAC's first impressions:
Nice heavy part
Nice acoustic part
Nice transition between the heavy and acoustic part
Not really digging this guys vocals
I think that about covers it.
:lol :lol :lol
Yup, you pretty much nailed it. :lol
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Looks like I was the only one brave enough to send Opeth's best song. ;)
Also aside from Patterns In The Ivy TAC got the entire Blackwater Park album! :rollin
You should really re-order the playlist to just listen to the full album in the proper order at this point.
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I can't believe songs from Snore-ceress were sent. :-\
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I can't believe songs from Snore-ceress were sent. :-\
What are you talking about? One of them is pretty good. :neverusethis:
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Looks like I was the only one brave enough to send Opeth's best song. ;)
honestly never got the hype for the song or the album as a whole, so :corn
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I figured Blackwater would be covered which is why I avoided it. I really wanted to send The Moor, but went with Godhead's instead as it has some meaning for me.
The best part of The Lotus Eater just so happens to be the ringtone on my phone.
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All three of those Sorceress songs are good, especially the title track (I'm surprised it only got sent once) and Chrysalis. Will O The Wisp is a little standard for Opeth ballad standards but it's still nice.
The best part of The Lotus Eater just so happens to be the ringtone on my phone.
That's going to be Tim's least favorite part, I'm calling it now. :lol
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All three of those Sorceress songs are good, especially the title track (I'm surprised it only got sent once) and Chrysalis. Will O The Wisp is a little standard for Opeth ballad standards but it's still nice.
The live version of Sorceress was sent as part of a Wild Card™ entry.
The best part of The Lotus Eater just so happens to be the ringtone on my phone.
That's going to be Tim's least favorite part, I'm calling it now. :lol
An 8 and a half minute ringtone? ;D
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I almost sent The Moor, but ultimately went with When instead.
MAYH is awesome.
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Me excited!! :lol
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HOF has the biggest balls and/or biggest distaste for Opeth of us all :lol
Damnation is the only Opeth album I own or care to listen to (I actually think it's pretty good), but it's also super Steven Wilson-ish. I didn't expect anyone else to send anything from it for that reason.
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HOF has the biggest balls and/or biggest distaste for Opeth of us all :lol
Damnation is the only Opeth album I own or care to listen to (I actually think it's pretty good), but it's also super Steven Wilson-ish. I didn't expect anyone else to send anything from it for that reason.
It's funny to quote the two of you together because...
Is it possible that Windowpane is this round's The Willing Well IV:The Final Cut?
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This playlist is less Bleak than I thought.
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This playlist is less Bleak than I thought.
(tidbit incoming...)
After hearing it, that's probably a good thing. :corn
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:corn
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HOF has the biggest balls and/or biggest distaste for Opeth of us all :lol
Damnation is the only Opeth album I own or care to listen to (I actually think it's pretty good), but it's also super Steven Wilson-ish. I didn't expect anyone else to send anything from it for that reason.
It's funny to quote the two of you together because...
Is it possible that Windowpane is this round's The Willing Well IV:The Final Cut?
Well, good thing I sent that song as well then :coolio
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This playlist is less Bleak than I thought.
Surprising, considering I sent a song called Hope Leaves from an album called Damnation.
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This playlist is less Bleak than I thought.
(tidbit incoming...)
After hearing it, that's probably a good thing. :corn
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Not surprised that others sent Lotus Eater, but I'm a bit surprised that I'm the only Heir Apparent. That's my favorite harsh-vocals Opeth song.
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Windowpane is probably in their top 5 best songs, to be fair. I just wouldn't send it in a TAC roulette. :lol
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surprised to see only one other bleak submission. a bit less surprised to see a few other deliverance submissions.
the drapery falls is not a bad pick either to be fair
All three were on my shortlist as well, but I figured others would send them :)
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Windowpane is probably in their top 5 best songs, to be fair. I just wouldn't send it in a TAC roulette. :lol
Yeah, I almost sent Windowpane. Then realized Tim may not like it. I also figured the harsh vocals might be too much of a hurdle in anything pre-Blackwater Park, so had to eliminate my 2nd favorite Opeth album (MAYH). Then I realized that all of Mikael Akerfeldt's harsh vocals are going to be a hurdle this round :lol
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Then I realized that all of Mikael Akerfeldt's harsh vocals are going to be a hurdle this round :lol
I can't say I love them, but they are still way better than the dude in BTBAM.
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Then I realized that all of Mikael Akerfeldt's harsh vocals are going to be a hurdle this round :lol
I can't say I love them, but they are still way better than the dude in BTBAM.
I can sort of agree here. However, I don't find Tommy's harsh vocals bad, so.... :corn
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Puppies
The Drapery Falls
Deliverance
Ariich
The Drapery Falls
Burden
There's been some tussling at the top. The Drapery Falls will cancel each other out. If Ariich is to gain some ground, it will depend on how the Deliverance vs Burden battle goes.
I have a related tidbit...
The vocals on Burden are outstanding. :corn
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Yeah Burden has great vocals but Deliverance has
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Yeah Burden has great vocals but Deliverance has
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Yeah Burden has great vocals but Deliverance has
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:metal :metal :metal
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Um, Wut?
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LolWut?
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burden is a very safe nonmetal pick, very good song, yes
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Y'all not getting what I was referring to makes me sad
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Y'all not getting what I was referring to makes me sad
I assume you are referring to the part that begins at about 9:58. That section is tight! :metal :metal
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I like Burden, but the untuned guitar part at the end is a little strange, and the ending overall goes on too long. It's the one part of Watershed that kind of breaks the momentum for me.
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I wish I could have sent The Grand Conjuration twice.
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Why settle for twice when you could send it 30 times?
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A little surprised we didn’t get Demon of The Fall.
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Y'all not getting what I was referring to makes me sad
I just read it. Got it immediately.
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The problem with Deliverance is, it takes too long to get to the really good part.
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The problem with Deliverance is, it takes too long to get to the really good part.
Yes, definitely. The breakdown at the end is amazing (if you like that kind of thing) but the rest of the very long song isn't that interesting.
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i think the entire song is really good :lol
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I wish I could have sent The Grand Conjuration twice.
I 100% intended to send it. I got so far as searching for it on Spotify, copying the link to send it to Tim, then realizing it's on Ghost Reveries. :lol
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A little surprised we didn’t get Demon of The Fall.
Almost sent that one too. Ya’ll sending good songs, when there’s a bunch of other good songs out there still!
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if y'all need your Grand Conjuration fix i've got you covered
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2a9veVoWswvjEaT3nANbmr
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:hefdaddy:
The Grand Conjuration is definitely up there with their best. That moment halway through the song where Mikael goes AAAAAAH and then THEEEE GRAAAAND CONJUUUURAAAATION and the main riff kicks in again about halfway through the song is amazing. That song is (like some of their others) a journey.
You know what I mean :lol
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If The Grand Conjuration was 5 minutes long instead of 10, it would be a better song imo.
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Yeah Burden has great vocals but Deliverance has
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The problem with Deliverance is, it takes too long to get to the really good part.
I can't agree. I find the whole 10 minutes amazing personally and it flows by and next thing you know, you're at the outro.
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Agreed with wolf, twice
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If The Grand Conjuration was 5 minutes long instead of 10, it would be a better song imo.
Agreed. Ghost Reveries is awesome, but to me The Grand Conjuration is the one kinda average spot on it. The other seven songs all rule.
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the grand conjuration is my least favorite metal track on ghost reveries and probably my second least favorite behind atonement but that's like a 9/10 on a 9.5/10 5-star top-ten-of-all-time album, so
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the grand conjuration is my least favorite metal track on ghost reveries and probably my second least favorite behind atonement but that's like a 9/10 on a 9.5/10 5-star top-ten-of-all-time album, so
This is accurate. I'd say the opening trifecta of Ghost of Perdition, The Baying of the Hounds, and Beneath the Mire is one of the best openings to a metal album of all time.
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I was years away from dealing with harsh vocals, but I was still able to get through Ghost Reveries because it was so good. I remember downloading Watershed when it came out after that, and thinking I'll just stick with Ghost Reveries..what I know.
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Ghost Reveries is probably the best way for a newcomer to get into Opeth but it hasn't aged well for me. I'm not sure if it'd even be in my top five Opeth albums at this point. I dunno, something about the sound of that album just feels very... flat. And the pacing is pretty bad imo; after the great start that is the first three songs the album just gradually gets less and less engaging.
I know the fanbase is pretty divided on Watershed but I think that album improved upon Ghost Reveries greatly. More variety, more energetic performances, and more weirdness (in a good way). Less metal I suppose, but Heir Apparent and The Lotus Eater more than hit that quota for me.
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Ghost Reveries is probably the best way for a newcomer to get into Opeth but it hasn't aged well for me. I'm not sure if it'd even be in my top five Opeth albums at this point. I dunno, something about the sound of that album just feels very... flat. And the pacing is pretty bad imo; after the great start that is the first three songs the album just gradually gets less and less engaging.
I know the fanbase is pretty divided on Watershed but I think that album improved upon Ghost Reveries greatly. More variety, more energetic performances, and more weirdness (in a good way). Less metal I suppose, but Heir Apparent and The Lotus Eater more than hit that quota for me.
I don't have any memory of that one listen to Watershed. Other than to think that I'm not doing this. Ghost Reveries was fine as a novelty for me. I really like Reverie/Harlequin Forest. Cool as hell outro on that.
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Ghost Reveries is probably the best way for a newcomer to get into Opeth but it hasn't aged well for me. I'm not sure if it'd even be in my top five Opeth albums at this point. I dunno, something about the sound of that album just feels very... flat. And the pacing is pretty bad imo; after the great start that is the first three songs the album just gradually gets less and less engaging.
I know the fanbase is pretty divided on Watershed but I think that album improved upon Ghost Reveries greatly. More variety, more energetic performances, and more weirdness (in a good way). Less metal I suppose, but Heir Apparent and The Lotus Eater more than hit that quota for me.
I don't have any memory of that one listen to Watershed. Other than to think that I'm not doing this. Ghost Reveries was fine as a novelty for me. I really like Reverie/Harlequin Forest. Cool as hell outro on that.
Harlequin Forest is THE best song on Ghost Reveries, imo.
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:tup
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Ghost Reveries is probably the best way for a newcomer to get into Opeth but it hasn't aged well for me. I'm not sure if it'd even be in my top five Opeth albums at this point. I dunno, something about the sound of that album just feels very... flat. And the pacing is pretty bad imo; after the great start that is the first three songs the album just gradually gets less and less engaging.
I know the fanbase is pretty divided on Watershed but I think that album improved upon Ghost Reveries greatly. More variety, more energetic performances, and more weirdness (in a good way). Less metal I suppose, but Heir Apparent and The Lotus Eater more than hit that quota for me.
I never really got the Ghost Reveries thing, to be honest. I get it being accessible because it's sort of the median of their sound—a lot of both metal and prog-rock-y parts, a lot of both clean and harsh vocals, etc. But it's never really connected with me, even after giving it many chances.
Granted, I don't exactly consider myself an Opeth fan. Music with a really bleak (:neverusethis:) vibe isn't for me, and I'm made uncomfortable by the fascination with murder that comes across in a lot of their early lyrics. But I like Blackwater Park a lot better than Ghost Reveries, even though BWP is a lot darker in my judgment.
Watershed, on the other hand, is my favorite metal Opeth album for a lot of the reasons you name. And lest I be accused of just saying that because I'm not enthusiastic about metal Opeth, Heir Apparent is my favorite song on that album, and way better IMO than any song on GR.
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Ghost Reveries is definitely my favourite Opeth album and Watershed is second. After that it's probably Deliverance and Blackwater Park.
Now I feel the need to go and listen to Ghost Reveries. :metal It has been a while.
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The first three songs of Watershed are among the best they ever recorded, but the rest of that record isn't that good, imo. Burden is okay apart from the ending, Porcelain Heart recycles some Grand Conjuration riff and is too long, Hessian Peel is solid and Hex Omega plain out bores me.
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Ghost Reveries is probably the best way for a newcomer to get into Opeth but it hasn't aged well for me. I'm not sure if it'd even be in my top five Opeth albums at this point. I dunno, something about the sound of that album just feels very... flat. And the pacing is pretty bad imo; after the great start that is the first three songs the album just gradually gets less and less engaging.
I know the fanbase is pretty divided on Watershed but I think that album improved upon Ghost Reveries greatly. More variety, more energetic performances, and more weirdness (in a good way). Less metal I suppose, but Heir Apparent and The Lotus Eater more than hit that quota for me.
I don't have any memory of that one listen to Watershed. Other than to think that I'm not doing this. Ghost Reveries was fine as a novelty for me. I really like Reverie/Harlequin Forest. Cool as hell outro on that.
Harlequin Forest is THE best song on Ghost Reveries, imo.
yeah i'm inclined to agree with this too
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The first three songs of Watershed are among the best they ever recorded, but the rest of that record isn't that good, imo. Burden is okay apart from the ending, Porcelain Heart recycles some Grand Conjuration riff and is too long, Hessian Peel is solid and Hex Omega plain out bores me.
Hex Omega is definitely the weakest song on the album, I'll give you that.
Porcelain Heart might be their most underrated song that I can think of except for maybe Moonlapse Vertigo. The proggy passages in the last half are superb, and the acoustic verse around two thirds in is absolutely beautiful.
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Watershed is very good overall, but for me it only has a few songs I would call great, with the rest being all good, while Ghost Reveries is filled with mostly great songs.
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Tidbit incoming...
Sorceress would be so much better with Ronnie James Dio singing it. I mean, they got Ian Anderson to sing on Will O The Wisp..
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This playlist is kicking my ass. :metal
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Sorceress would be a lot better if the mix was better and more consistent. Some songs sound good and some it is like they decided to crank the low end way too much. They had a long stream of albums that legit sounded great and then the last two were clear declines in that regard.
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I haven't really picked up production differences yet. Just trying to differentiate the songs at this point.
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Will o the Wisp is definitely a great one. I don't revisit that record much, but I love that song. Easily my favorite from Sorceress.
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I got three songs from Sorceress and one is the clear winner (of the three, not of the round).
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Tidbit incoming...
Sorceress would be so much better with Ronnie James Dio singing it. I mean, they got Ian Anderson to sing on Will O The Wisp..
You do realize that Will O the Wisp is a reworking of this? Or was your Ian Anderson call purely coincidental?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sxcktkNSw38
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Tidbit incoming...
Sorceress would be so much better with Ronnie James Dio singing it. I mean, they got Ian Anderson to sing on Will O The Wisp..
You do realize that Will O the Wisp is a reworking of this? Or was your Ian Anderson call purely coincidental?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sxcktkNSw38
I would have no idea, so it was definitely coincidental, though I'd like to chalk it up to my genius intuitive listening skills. :lol
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Thankfully I read that without a drink in my hand. Lol
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I know Dream Theater gets accused of putting parts together that don't really fit, but what I'm finding with a lot of these songs is that they just feel like a collection of parts put together. It's hard to find some commonality throughout a particular song.
But a lot of these sections are :metal
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I hate that. Those who say that have no creativity. I love a 3 minute pop song and I love 20 minute songs with abrupt turns.
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I hate that. Those who say that have no creativity.
Wait..I just said that. :lol
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I think that criticism is more reasonable with Opeth than with Dream Theater, especially early Opeth.
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A “collection of parts put together” can be used to describe a lot of early Haken too.
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Will o the Wisp is definitely a great one. I don't revisit that record much, but I love that song. Easily my favorite from Sorceress.
:metal
Same here!
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I hate that. Those who say that have no creativity.
Wait..I just said that. :lol
So you got my shot at you then. :lol
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Scratched out 13 writeups today. Off to a good start. These are great songs.
Just finished Burden, and I have to say that it is Schenkerific!
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I love the out of tune solo on Burden, it's weird and confuses people
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I wish I had the balls to send tac some of Coheed's softer songs, but that would be a risky move.
I'm a metal fan, but sending me the heaviest track usually doesn't work either.
By the way TAC, if you are curious and have time to listen, the songs I was thinking of here were Dark Side of Me, Wake Up and Ghost.
Was listening to Coheed on my way home and all three songs came on
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I wish I had the balls to send tac some of Coheed's softer songs, but that would be a risky move.
I'm a metal fan, but sending me the heaviest track usually doesn't work either.
By the way TAC, if you are curious and have time to listen, the songs I was thinking of here were Dark Side of Me, Wake Up and Ghost.
Was listening to Coheed on my way home and all three songs came on
I have time. I'm in pretty good shape for this round.
V..
First Impressions..
Dark Side Of Me was excellent.
Wake Up, I don't really remember.
Ghost was a tough listen the first time around. :)
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Good thing I didn't send any of those :biggrin:
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Me too! :lol
Tibit incoming...
I hate the snare sound in Windowpane.
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Someone remix Windowpane with the Images And Words snare sound. :P
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Someone remix Windowpane with the Images And Words snare sound. :P
Nah, St. Anger snare sound! :metal
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If I have a productive morning, I might have Results tomorrow afternoon. Writeups are done. Songs are ranked. Results posts are formatted. Just have to assign and plug in the scores.
This will be the highest scoring round.
Of the 23 songs..
18 scored an 8.0 or higher.
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If I have a productive morning, I might have Results tomorrow afternoon. Writeups are done. Songs are ranked. Results posts are formatted. Just have to assign and plug in the scores.
This will be the highest scoring round.
Of the 23 songs..
18 scored an 8.0 or higher.
And mine are two of the five that didn't, right?
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I love the out of tune solo on Burden, it's weird and confuses people
I find it strange that that solo bothers so many people. Who cares if it is out of tune, it sounds good, and that is all that matters.
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If I have a productive morning, I might have Results tomorrow afternoon. Writeups are done. Songs are ranked. Results posts are formatted. Just have to assign and plug in the scores.
This will be the highest scoring round.
Of the 23 songs..
18 scored an 8.0 or higher.
And mine are two of the five that didn't, right?
Er.. well, you do own a 7.9, but I have your other song ranked 8th overall (score not assigned yet). :corn
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I love the out of tune solo on Burden, it's weird and confuses people
I find it strange that that solo bothers so many people. Who cares if it is out of tune, it sounds good, and that is all that matters.
It's not the solo right? But the outro. And no, it doesn't sound good.
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The outro, yes. It sounds a bit strange, yes, but it's a weird little thing that works. It's like the feeling of losing it and then it segues perfectly into the next song.
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The first time I heard it, my headphones were on low power, and I thought they had finally given out. the second listen, I was like WTF...in the same spot??
But then I saw it mentioned in the thread, and well, that made more sense. I don't love it, because the song is so damn good.
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If I have a productive morning, I might have Results tomorrow afternoon. Writeups are done. Songs are ranked. Results posts are formatted. Just have to assign and plug in the scores.
This will be the highest scoring round.
Of the 23 songs..
18 scored an 8.0 or higher.
And mine are two of the five that didn't, right?
Er.. well, you do own a 7.9, but I have your other song ranked 8th overall (score not assigned yet). :corn
I'll be honest, I was nervous that all the people that actually know Opeth weren't saying shit either way about my tracks, like I'd sent some forgettable crap. :lol
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If I have a productive morning, I might have Results tomorrow afternoon. Writeups are done. Songs are ranked. Results posts are formatted. Just have to assign and plug in the scores.
This will be the highest scoring round.
Of the 23 songs..
18 scored an 8.0 or higher.
And mine are two of the five that didn't, right?
Er.. well, you do own a 7.9, but I have your other song ranked 8th overall (score not assigned yet). :corn
I'll be honest, I was nervous that all the people that actually know Opeth weren't saying shit either way about my tracks, like I'd sent some forgettable crap. :lol
I had to go back and look at what you sent, I couldn't remember :lol At any rate, those are both good songs, imo, but not ones that I would immediately think to send to Tim.
If I had to guess I'd say Dirge for November got the 7.9 :corn
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The outro, yes. It sounds a bit strange, yes, but it's a weird little thing that works. It's like the feeling of losing it and then it segues perfectly into the next song.
Yeah it's not really part of the song, more of an interlude and segue into the next one. But on Spotify there's no way to remove or automatically skip it so I guess Tim had to listen to it every time with no context. :lol
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The outro, yes. It sounds a bit strange, yes, but it's a weird little thing that works. It's like the feeling of losing it and then it segues perfectly into the next song.
Yeah it's not really part of the song, more of an interlude and segue into the next one. But on Spotify there's no way to remove or automatically skip it so I guess Tim had to listen to it every time with no context. :lol
I didn't hold it against the song.
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On cd the outro it still attached to Burden and if you don't hit stop or skip you have to endure it too.
For me that outro is like an idea that sounds good the first time, but less and less with each repeat.
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If I have a productive morning, I might have Results tomorrow afternoon. Writeups are done. Songs are ranked. Results posts are formatted. Just have to assign and plug in the scores.
This will be the highest scoring round.
Of the 23 songs..
18 scored an 8.0 or higher.
And mine are two of the five that didn't, right?
Er.. well, you do own a 7.9, but I have your other song ranked 8th overall (score not assigned yet). :corn
I'll be honest, I was nervous that all the people that actually know Opeth weren't saying shit either way about my tracks, like I'd sent some forgettable crap. :lol
Don't worry, bud. I got your back. I have no doubt that I'm in the 7.2, 7.4 range! :) :) :) :)
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Lowest score is a 7.4, and no, you don't have that. ;D
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I think Faith in Others might get a fairly low score :)
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I think Faith in Others might get a fairly low score :)
No faith...in others?
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If Bleak got a low score, that would be kinda ..... bleak. :blush
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I'll say this about Bleak. It seems the most talked about or sent songs in each round have been generally underwhelming. Let's just say the streak is in tact. :corn
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I'll say this about Bleak. It seems the most talked about or sent songs in each round have been generally underwhelming. Let's just say the streak is in tact. :corn
While I will say you are wrong, I'm glad I did not send Bleak. At least, I hope I'm glad.
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Didn't The Lotus Eater get sent just as many times?
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Didn't The Lotus Eater get sent just as many times?
Well, yes, but there was really no chatter about The Lotus Eater. People were talking about Bleak in the thread plus in a few submission PMs people said that..."You'll probably get Bleak from other people so I'll send you x and y instead."
The Lotus Eater > Bleak.
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I'll say this about Bleak. It seems the most talked about or sent songs in each round have been generally underwhelming. Let's just say the streak is in tact. :corn
All good, I just saw the opportunity to place a bad joke.
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Didn't The Lotus Eater get sent just as many times?
Well, yes, but there was really no chatter about The Lotus Eater. People were talking about Bleak in the thread plus in a few submission PMs people said that..."You'll probably get Bleak from other people so I'll send you x and y instead."
The Lotus Eater > Bleak.
Yes, that was me. And then I figured you’d get Lotus Eater a bunch of times too. I’m inclined to agree on your comparison as well, they’re close, but Bleak is damn good.
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I must be way out of touch with people's opinions on Opeth, because I never really got the sense until this thread that Bleak was "the" Opeth song. I never even saw it as "the" Blackwater Park song, in comparison to the title track and The Drapery Falls.
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I must be way out of touch with people's opinions on Opeth, because I never really got the sense until this thread that Bleak was "the" Opeth song. I never even saw it as "the" Blackwater Park song, in comparison to the title track and The Drapery Falls.
I always thought Bleak was the 2nd song on Blackwater Park. It fits nicely between The Leper Affinity and Harvest, and continues the flow of the album.
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I must be way out of touch with people's opinions on Opeth, because I never really got the sense until this thread that Bleak was "the" Opeth song. I never even saw it as "the" Blackwater Park song, in comparison to the title track and The Drapery Falls.
I always thought Bleak was the 2nd song on Blackwater Park. It fits nicely between The Leper Affinity and Harvest, and continues the flow of the album.
Well that's just like, your opinion. :neverusethis:
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nah the second song on blackwater park is the answer lies within
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I must be way out of touch with people's opinions on Opeth, because I never really got the sense until this thread that Bleak was "the" Opeth song. I never even saw it as "the" Blackwater Park song, in comparison to the title track and The Drapery Falls.
I always thought Bleak was the 2nd song on Blackwater Park. It fits nicely between The Leper Affinity and Harvest, and continues the flow of the album.
Well that's just like, your opinion. :neverusethis:
It's a hot take, I know. :riskybiz:
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nah the second song on blackwater park is the answer lies within
Trapped inside this blackwater park
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These Drapery Walls
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Round 6 Results!
Cyril
Bleak...8.0
OK..three minutes into this, and my ears are kind of glazed over. There’s nothing to really latch onto. The clean vocal section is actually pretty good. The middle softer section is nice. Moves along and of course the harshies come back, but it’s short lived, so that’s good. I’m surprised that I had heard so much about this song. At nine minutes, it’s better as a six minute song. Cut off the first three minutes.
Deliverance...8.6
Interesting intro. I like the metal-ness of it before the vocals. The early clean verses are nice. The section at 4:43 is a surprise. The song seemed content on going back and forth. Nice sounding solo at 8:18. I’m glad this middle section came up as I thought the song was meandering a bit. But the outro from 10 minutes on is all win.
8.0+8.6=16.6/2=8.30
Romdrums
The Leper Affinity...8.7
This starts out harsh and heavy. It really hits its groove at 2:15. Love the solo at 2:45. Really strong. The rhythm under the harsh vocals in the next section is cool as hell. Some Schenker right before the clean vocals come in. Nice! I like how this gets proggy heavy too. Ends with a nice piano outro. That Schenker passage really makes this stick out for me.
The Lotus Eater...8.3
In the beginning, I like how the blastbeats are behind the clean vocals and the awesome ride cymbal groove is behind the harsh. Nice solo at 3:39. Some Schenker notes at the end of the chill section before a cool drum groove. I find the ending clean and harsh sections kind of a letdown though. This song was excellent right up until the end of that transition section. Strong track though.
8.7+8.3=19/2=8.50
Professor
Godhead’s Lament...8.7
The first three minutes go by really fast. It’s not my favorite vocal per se, but the music underneath is steady AF and just keeps it moving along a real nice groove. The solo that starts at 2:56 sounds so familiar, but I cannot place it. Has a Classic Power 70’s feel to it. I love the clean vocal section that follows. The rhythm under the second harsh vocals section at 6:56 is cool. The song goes back and forth, but I have to say that this is quite groovy throughout. It’s long, but doesn’t feel it’s as long as it is. It’s pretty powerful.
When...8.9
The brief acoustic intro feels kind of 80’s power ballad-y. Of course it gets blown up pretty quickly. But at :56, it goes for a nice Dave Lombardo groove. I like how the harsh verse is over a nice steady line, even some acoustic underneath. I like how this song stays straightforward, even when stepping back, and groovey.4:18…wow! One of my favorite passages in the round. The “And I Die” section that ends it sounds like Alice In Chains with advanced drumming. Excellent tune.
8.7+8.9=17.6/2=8.80
Wolfking
Deliverance...8.6
Interesting intro. I like the metal-ness of it before the vocals. The early clean verses are nice. The section at 4:43 is a surprise. The song seemed content on going back and forth. Nice sounding solo at 8:18. I’m glad this middle section came up as I thought the song was meandering a bit. But the outro from 10 minutes on is all win.
Windowpane...8.4
The song goes back and forth three times in the first 3-4 minutes between vocal and instrumental sections. I like those instrumental drop ins. It’s pretty chill, but by the end of the third cycle, I’m ready for something else. It begins to draw some energy before a slight change at 4:40. It stays kind of Pink Floydish and really fucking cool. I love these couple of minutes. They should’ve just let that fade out, but unfortunately the vocals come back at 6:30. The keyboard treatments in the outro are nice. This is a cool song.
8.6+8.4=17/2=8.50
Buddy
The Lotus Eater...8.3
In the beginning, I like how the blastbeats are behind the clean vocals and the awesome ride cymbal groove is behind the harsh. Nice solo at 3:39. Some Schenker notes at the end of the chill section before a cool drum groove. I find the ending clean and harsh sections kind of a letdown though. This song was excellent right up until the end of that transition section. Strong track though.
Blackwater Park...8.1
Cool groovy intro, almost grunge-like. After about 3 minutes of chill, the song starts back up again Sabbath style. This is a really cool tune, though it is kind of long. I was kind of waiting for that “holy shit” moment, but it just stayed pretty level. A strong heavy level.
8.3+8.1=16.4/2=8.20
HOF
Windowpane...8.4
The song goes back and forth three times in the first 3-4 minutes between vocal and instrumental sections. I like those instrumental drop ins. It’s pretty chill, but by the end of the third cycle, I’m ready for something else. It begins to draw some energy before a slight change at 4:40. It stays kind of Pink Floydish and really fucking cool. I love these couple of minutes. They should’ve just let that fade out, but unfortunately the vocals come back at 6:30. The keyboard treatments in the outro are nice. This is a cool song.
Hope Leaves...7.4
Not unpleasant by any stretch. An interesting side of Opeth for sure. But this is like sending Beth in a KISS Round.
8.4=7.4=15.8/2=7.90
425
Heir Apparent...8.4
I get a big Black Sabbath vibe in the beginning. It’s cool and groovy, but it really hits its stride at 4:17. I like the mellow part at 4:40. Cool guitar solo. Sounds a little like Blackmore. Gets heavy and proggy before culminating in an amazing outro at 7:20.
The Lotus Eater...8.3
In the beginning, I like how the blastbeats are behind the clean vocals and the awesome ride cymbal groove is behind the harsh. Nice solo at 3:39. Some Schenker notes at the end of the chill section before a cool drum groove. I find the ending clean and harsh sections kind of a letdown though. This song was excellent right up until the end of that transition section. Strong track though.
8.4+8.3=16.7/2=8.35
Lonestar
Dirge For November...7.9
I like the acoustic opening, especially as it closes. The vocals are a bit shaky though. The harsh vocal section almost feels Black Metalish. Ends with some soft guitar. It’s not my favorite here, but I definitely like it. I like the emotion that I hear in Black Metal, and it comes through here as well. Totally appreciate this submission.
Master’s Apprentice...8.5
This has a cool, almost menacing pace to it. Moves along pretty good, but vomits on itself at 7:47. WTF? But then it moves into a fantastic part. Best part of the song is the last three minutes. Great epic outro.
7.9+8.5=16.4/2=8.20
Puppies
The Drapery Falls...8.1
After an uneventful 1:40 intro, there’s a cool Fields Of The Nephilim section. Harsh vocals make their first appearance about 5 minutes in. Gets somewhat proggy at 5:55. After another harsh part, the song settles in nicely to the end. Really enjoyed the ride out on this. Not sure it it’s as memorable as some of the other tracks.
Deliverance...8.6
Interesting intro. I like the metal-ness of it before the vocals. The early clean verses are nice. The section at 4:43 is a surprise. The song seemed content on going back and forth. Nice sounding solo at 8:18. I’m glad this middle section came up as I thought the song was meandering a bit. But the outro from 10 minutes on is all win.
8.1+8.6=16.7/2=8.35
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Ariich
The Drapery Falls...8.1
After an uneventful 1:40 intro, there’s a cool Fields Of The Nephilim section. Harsh vocals make their first appearance about 5 minutes in. Gets somewhat proggy at 5:55. After another harsh part, the song settles in nicely to the end. Really enjoyed the ride out on this. Not sure it it’s as memorable as some of the other tracks though.
Burden...8.8
Evident right off the bat is a fantastic vocal. Love the keyboard solo that comes in shortly after the two minute mark. Trying to place the “aahh” part at 3:30ish. MSG maybe? Sounds like a Schenker solo that follows. The first one anyway. Great solo trade offs here. Ahh Schenker again at 5:13. Can’t say I love the detuned ending. The song was perfect until then. Still one of the best in the round.
8.1+8.8=16.9/2=8.45
Elite
When...8.9
The brief acoustic intro feels kind of 80’s power ballad-y. Of course it gets blown up pretty quickly. But at :56, it goes for a nice Dave Lombardo groove. I like how the harsh verse is over a nice steady line, even some acoustic underneath. I like how this song stays straightforward, even when stepping back, and groovey.4:18…wow! One of my favorite passages in the round. The “And I Die” section that ends it sounds like Alice In Chains with advanced drumming. Excellent tune.
April Ethereal...8.4
Great groovy opening. Not used to hearing double bass with this pattern. Even though it’s mostly harsh vocals the music really let’s them breathe, so they’re not overbearing. Love the rhythm at 6:05. Doing some headbanging at 6:45. The outro is pretty soothing.
8.9+8.4=17.3/2=8.65
Kwyjibo
Bleak...8.0
OK..three minutes into this, and my ears are kind of glazed over. There’s nothing to really latch onto. The clean vocal section is actually pretty good. The middle softer section is nice. Moves along and of course the harshies come back, but it’s short lived, so that’s good. I’m surprised that I had heard so much about this song. At nine minutes, it’s better as a six minute song. Cut off the first three minutes.
The Drapery Falls...8.1
After an uneventful 1:40 intro, there’s a cool Fields Of The Nephilim section. Harsh vocals make their first appearance about 5 minutes in. Gets somewhat proggy at 5:55. After another harsh part, the song settles in nicely to the end. Really enjoyed the ride out on this. Not sure it it’s as memorable as some of the other tracks.
8.0+8.1=16.1/2=8.05
Vmadera
Face Of Melinda...8.0
I like this acoustic intro. The vocals have an almost 60’s quality to it. Real retro sounding. Even when the full band joins in, it feels Classic. I keep waiting for the harsh vocals to come in and blow this up. Surprisingly, they don’t make an appearance. An almost majestic outro closes this out. There’s something refreshing about this and the old school vibe is endearing.
Windowpane...8.4
The song goes back and forth three times in the first 3-4 minutes between vocal and instrumental sections. I like those instrumental drop ins. It’s pretty chill, but by the end of the third cycle, I’m ready for something else. It begins to draw some energy before a slight change at 4:40. It stays kind of Pink Floydish and really fucking cool. I love these couple of minutes. They should’ve just let that fade out, but unfortunately the vocals come back at 6:30. The keyboard treatments in the outro are nice. This is a cool song.
8.0+8.4=16.4/2=8.20
Kingshmegland
Sorceress...7.8
This has an old school feel to it. Still trying to place it. Deep purple, maybe? Lucifer’s Friend? The solo at 3:47 smokes. There’s a keyboard player? This chill part at 4:50 is cool. Woah, that’s the outro? Cool song. Not my favorite though.
Dignity...8.0
Is this Lucifer’s Friend? Sounds a lot like John Lawton in the intro. That is some strong lead guitar at 1:14. I like when the song kicks back up at 3:30. Such a groovy 70’s lick. I can hear Ian Gillan singing this. Cool song.
7.8+8.0=15.8/2=7.90
Evermind
Will O The Wisp...7.5
Thought of Ian Anderson/Jethro Tull right away. I like the subtle lead guitar in the second half. Very pleasant and nothing not to like.
Faith In Others...8.3
Cool shuffling opening. The diddle at 3:20 reminds me of Ritchie Blackmore which makes sense as it moves into the next section. Dio-ish “ooohh”s. Stays pretty mellow throughout. Quite enjoyable, harkening back to some classic Rainbow for me.
7.5+8.3=15.8/2=7.90
LudwigVan
The Funeral Portrait...8.8
Starts with a big time Sabbath romp. There’s a quick section before the four minute mark with some cool drumming tradeoffs. The solo that follows that is really cool, as is the rhythm that carries it. The cleans come in late in the song, and I like the uptick in pacing right after that. The thing about this song is that, while no section really stands out, maybe with the exception of the Sabbath styled start, this just picks you up and never drops you. This does not feel like an 8+ minute song. The pace is strong and steady, but never feels like it meanders.
The Drapery Falls...8.1
After an uneventful 1:40 intro, there’s a cool Fields Of The Nephilim section. Harsh vocals make their first appearance about 5 minutes in. Gets somewhat proggy at 5:55. After another harsh part, the song settles in nicely to the end. Really enjoyed the ride out on this. Not sure it it’s as memorable as some of the other tracks.
8.8+8.1=16.9/2=8.45
Stadler
Chrysalis...8.1
Right off the bat, I like the pace of this. The song moves along, and at 3:46, there’s a cool guitar solo then a keyboard trade off. Reminds me of Deep Purple. Chills out at 4:50.. a little Black Sabbath. Fades out with this. I like this song. Has an Old School feel to it.
Harvest...7.6
The beginning reminds me of Iron Maiden’s Prodigal Son. I like the subtle lead guitar at 3:15.Hear a little Schenker in some of the notes. Looks like it was a breather during Blackwater Park, the album. The song is a little blah, yet enjoyable.
8.1+7.6=15.7/2=7.85
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Round 6 Results!
Professor...8.80
Elite...8.65
Romdrums...8.50
Worlfking...8.50
LudwigVan...8.45
Ariich...8.45
425...8.35
Puppies...8.35
Cyril....8.30
Lonestar...8.20
Buddy...8.20
Vmadera...8.20
Kwyjibo...8.05
HOF...7.90
Evermind...7.90
Kingshmegland...7.90
Stadler...7.85
Standings
Puppies...8.60+8.15+8.25+8.35+8.20+8.35=49.90
Ariich...9.0+8.15+7.60+7.85+8.05+8.45=49.10
Cyril...7.55+8.25+7.95+8.45+8.35+8.30=48.95
VMadera...8.45+7.35+7.95+8.30+8.60+8.20=48.85
Romdrums...8.25+7.65+8.25+7.8+7.80+8.50=48.25
Kwyjibo...7.80+8.75+7.65+8.15+7.60+8.05=48.00
Professor...8.20+7.6+7.0+8.05+8.30+8.80=47.95
LudwigVan...8.35+7.55+7.35+7.90+8.30+8.45=47.90
Wolfking...7.80+7.6+8.10+8.0+7.90+8.50=47.90
Kingshmegland...7.70+8.25+7.85+7.85+8.20+7.90=47.75
425...7.90+7.40+7.65+8.45+7.85+8.35=47.60
Buddy...7.05+8.15+7.75+8.05+8.20+8.20=47.40
Elite...7.50+7.75+7.60+7.90+7.80+8.65=47.20
Stadler...8.50+7.75+7.35+7.55+7.85+7.85=46.85
Evermind...8.20+7.75+7.55+7.45+7.80+7.90=46.65
HOF...7.65+7.50+8.05+7.60+7.95+7.90=46.65
Lonestar...7.80+7.25+7.85+7.40+8.0+8.20=46.50
As always, please check my math!
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I knew I was taking risks with the songs I picked, it is fine :metal
On to Mastodon :metal
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MMMMEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHH!!!!!
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yeah that works
stevie willy boy round next! i'll be satisfied if i score above 5/10 :lol
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This is a really cool tune, though it is kind of long. I was kind of waiting for that “holy shit” moment, but it just stayed pretty level.
Uh, literally every single riff from 5 minutes onwards? The breakdown + solo at 7 minutes???
Tastes, man...
I'll be using the wild card for this next round because your tastes are an enigma wrapped in a mystery, even for bands you enjoy. :lol
On to Mastodon :metal
You wish.
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On to Mastodon :metal
You wish.
:lol forgot we have PT first. Oh well :corn
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This is a really cool tune, though it is kind of long. I was kind of waiting for that “holy shit” moment, but it just stayed pretty level.
Uh, literally every single riff from 5 minutes onwards? The breakdown + solo at 7 minutes???
What about the first 5 minutes? ;D
Yeah, that part is cool, and I reserve the right to change that score next year sometime ;D after I've heard it 20 more times, but after 5 or 6 listens, it just didn't separate. I mean it scored over an 8.0 which means I really like it.
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This is a really cool tune, though it is kind of long. I was kind of waiting for that “holy shit” moment, but it just stayed pretty level.
Uh, literally every single riff from 5 minutes onwards? The breakdown + solo at 7 minutes???
What about the first 5 minutes? ;D
Yeah, that part is cool, and I reserve the right to change that score next year sometime ;D after I've heard it 20 more times, but after 5 or 6 listens, it just didn't separate. I mean it scored over an 8.0 which means I really like it.
Pretty much every bit of that song is perfect if you ask me. :biggrin:
And yeah, in all seriousness, I'm pleasantly surprised this round went so well as a whole. You should probably listen to all their albums chronologically at some point - I don't really like their first two albums but I know they have their defenders. And everything from MYAYH onward with the exception of Pale Folklore ranges from decent to great.
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Well, I'm rather pleased with myself. Of all the rounds, I think this is the one I wanted the most. Even when I lose the roulette, I'll be proud of this minor win.
I see my win came down to Godhead beating out April Ethereal. Either way, MAYA and Still Life represent!
I might ruin it all with the 2 PT tracks I have picked out.
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I'm probably gonna change my picks for this round bcuz TAC said he didn't like one of them well before the round started so to spite him I'm going to send the best two PT/SW songs he'll definitely hate
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Sent. One of the songs I sent could be considered a dick move but TAC could always veto it since I used the wild card. ;)
And I didn't send the song that at least four or five people will definitely send.
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And I didn't send the song that at least four or five people will definitely send.
Do you mean Blackest Eyes? I wouldn't recommend it.
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And I didn't send the song that at least four or five people will definitely send.
Do you mean Blackest Eyes? I wouldn't recommend it.
I would've predicated Futile. Would that be futile to send? It was an original pick for me but I dropped it weeks ago.
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And I didn't send the song that at least four or five people will definitely send.
Do you mean Blackest Eyes? I wouldn't recommend it.
You wouldn't recommend sending it, or you wouldn't recommend NOT sending it? :lol
And I didn't send the song that at least four or five people will definitely send.
Do you mean Blackest Eyes? I wouldn't recommend it.
I would've predicated Futile. Would that be futile to send? It was an original pick for me but I dropped it weeks ago.
Futile is a bit of a deep cut. It was on my shortlist, though upon re-listening to it the vocals in the chorus were a bit more annoying than I remembered.
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Cyril knows what's up, except that Kingshmegland has a beard.
Never heard Futile.
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Yeah, nice. Leper was my other choice but at least my two weren't far off.
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MMMMEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHH!!!!!
SSSUUURRREEWWWWAAASSSS!!!!!
;D
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i changed my submissions
there's actually one song i probably should've sent instead of the second song i did send and i wouldn't be surprised if someone else does send it
but i ended up going for a different approach than i originally planned for this one because i have a good idea of why TAC doesn't like blackest eyes and it eliminates like two-thirds of PT's discography :lol
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:lol
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Sent.
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i have a good idea of why TAC doesn't like blackest eyes and it eliminates like two-thirds of PT's discography :lol
So I've no idea why, but similarly I feel like PT is probably not really for Tim.
But who knows, he's surprised us in previous rounds.
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i have a good idea of why TAC doesn't like blackest eyes and it eliminates like two-thirds of PT's discography :lol
So I've no idea why, but similarly I feel like PT is probably not really for Tim.
But who knows, he's surprised us in previous rounds.
I've really enjoyed this roulette I must say. I lot more than I thought I would. The BTBAM was a bit tough to get through, but other than that, it's been pleasantly surprising.
And Rich, it'd be easier to catch Puppies if you send different songs. :lol
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And Rich, it'd be easier to catch Puppies if you send different songs. :lol
Yeah seriously.
At least you liked Burden a bit more than Deliverance. :lol
I might go a little more off-piste this round, but then maybe Chris will do the same (or maybe he won't but I'll just fail miserably anyway!).
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Not a major PT fan, but I have a few songs I really like that are not on Deadwing. One is a pretty big gamble but I love the tune and the whole vibe and atmosphere behind it.
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YESSSS!! A good round for once!
When as top scorer of the round, I can definitely live with that :biggrin:
Looks like you might like My Arms, Your Hearse as a whole. Can recommend it, my second favourite Opeth album :)
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And Rich, it'd be easier to catch Puppies if you send different songs. :lol
Yeah seriously.
At least you liked Burden a bit more than Deliverance. :lol
I might go a little more off-piste this round, but then maybe Chris will do the same (or maybe he won't but I'll just fail miserably anyway!).
And "off-piste" is British for.....? :lol
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I see my win came down to Godhead beating out April Ethereal. Either way, MAYA and Still Life represent!
:metal
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HOF
Windowpane...8.4
The song goes back and forth three times in the first 3-4 minutes between vocal and instrumental sections. I like those instrumental drop ins. It’s pretty chill, but by the end of the third cycle, I’m ready for something else. It begins to draw some energy before a slight change at 4:40. It stays kind of Pink Floydish and really fucking cool. I love these couple of minutes. They should’ve just let that fade out, but unfortunately the vocals come back at 6:30. The keyboard treatments in the outro are nice. This is a cool song.
Hope Leaves...7.4
Not unpleasant by any stretch. An interesting side of Opeth for sure. But this is like sending Beth in a KISS Round.
8.4=7.4=15.8/2=7.90
Pssh. As if Beth isn’t Kiss’ best song!
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HOF
Windowpane...8.4
The song goes back and forth three times in the first 3-4 minutes between vocal and instrumental sections. I like those instrumental drop ins. It’s pretty chill, but by the end of the third cycle, I’m ready for something else. It begins to draw some energy before a slight change at 4:40. It stays kind of Pink Floydish and really fucking cool. I love these couple of minutes. They should’ve just let that fade out, but unfortunately the vocals come back at 6:30. The keyboard treatments in the outro are nice. This is a cool song.
Hope Leaves...7.4
Not unpleasant by any stretch. An interesting side of Opeth for sure. But this is like sending Beth in a KISS Round.
8.4=7.4=15.8/2=7.90
Pssh. As if Beth isn’t Kiss’ best song!
:lol :lol
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And Rich, it'd be easier to catch Puppies if you send different songs. :lol
Yeah seriously.
At least you liked Burden a bit more than Deliverance. :lol
I might go a little more off-piste this round, but then maybe Chris will do the same (or maybe he won't but I'll just fail miserably anyway!).
And "off-piste" is British for.....? :lol
adjective: off-piste
- situated or taking place away from prepared ski runs.
"off-piste slopes"
- deviating from what is conventional, usual, or expected.
"an off-piste show"
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MMMMEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHH!!!!!
SSSUUURRREEWWWWAAASSSS!!!!!
;D
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Yikes. Sent for PT.
Gave TAC a lot to listen to. :corn
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And Rich, it'd be easier to catch Puppies if you send different songs. :lol
Yeah seriously.
At least you liked Burden a bit more than Deliverance. :lol
I might go a little more off-piste this round, but then maybe Chris will do the same (or maybe he won't but I'll just fail miserably anyway!).
Let's see if I can manage to send the same songs. My lead is slowly dwindling. :corn
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The outro, yes. It sounds a bit strange, yes, but it's a weird little thing that works. It's like the feeling of losing it and then it segues perfectly into the next song.
Yeah it's not really part of the song, more of an interlude and segue into the next one. But on Spotify there's no way to remove or automatically skip it so I guess Tim had to listen to it every time with no context. :lol
Using Spotify for anything is the biggest fail in this whole thing, to be honest. ;)
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The outro, yes. It sounds a bit strange, yes, but it's a weird little thing that works. It's like the feeling of losing it and then it segues perfectly into the next song.
Yeah it's not really part of the song, more of an interlude and segue into the next one. But on Spotify there's no way to remove or automatically skip it so I guess Tim had to listen to it every time with no context. :lol
Using Spotify for anything is the biggest fail in this whole thing, to be honest. ;)
:neverusethis:
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Just sent. Both live tracks. I am not feeling confident with this round at all. :lol
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I'm 48 seconds into the first song I listen to for this round and I feel like I'm gonna puke over these vocals. :lol
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I'm 48 seconds into the first song I listen to for this round and I feel like I'm gonna puke over these vocals. :lol
Did someone send The Same Asylum As Before? :lol
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I'm 48 seconds into the first song I listen to for this round and I feel like I'm gonna puke over these vocals. :lol
Did someone send The Same Asylum As Before? :lol
:corn
I can't discuss songs that may or may not have been sent until everyone is in.
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Aaaaaaaaaand sent.
With the freedom of being in last place, I sent my two favorites. One from PT and on from SW.
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Aaaaaaaaaand sent.
With the freedom of being in last place, I sent my two favorites. One from PT and on from SW.
Don't take your freedom for granted, because I'm gunning for your spot!
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Sent.
One song could be a really obvious one, the other might be but to be honest I don't really know what approach others will take. Feels like the riskiest of all the rounds so far, so I'm very interested to see what people have sent.
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Sent
and because Tim is starting to hate SW (or at least the vocals) someone should send Hatesong and Don't Hate Me, then at least the titles would be kinda fitting. :D
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What if I sent a PT song and a SW song, with another PT song as my wildcard and you end up hating the SW song most? Do I meed to send two wildcards? :biggrin:
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I kinda wanted to send Hatesong as it's one of my favorites, but I think TAC would, well, hate it.
Come to think of it, I didn't send any of the songs in my top three:
Trains
Hatesong
Russia On Ice
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Cool to get some pretty solid scores on my Watershed picks! I kind of agree that the end of The Lotus Eater is not as strong as the beginning. Overall I think a downside of a lot of the longer metal Opeth songs is that they can be uneven, having really good sections mixed in with sections that are merely okay. Heir Apparent is one of the chief exceptions to that IMO, where the whole thing is good, so I'm happy with the 8.4
The Funeral Portrait as the top song on Blackwater Park (granted you did not get Patterns in the Ivy) is such an uncommon opinion, but it's one I low-key kind of agree with. At least, for me, it would be between Funeral Portrait and the title track.
Just sent Porcupine Tree's best song even though it's not intuitively one to send here.
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Hell yeah! My goal is to finish last now while still sending my favourite PT songs. Here we go!
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I kinda wanted to send Hatesong as it's one of my favorites, but I think TAC would, well, hate it.
Come to think of it, I didn't send any of the songs in my top three:
Trains
Hatesong
Russia On Ice
I considered sending Russia on Ice, but I feel like Tim would find most of it boring. :corn
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I sent my Sucks & Blows.
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I kinda wanted to send Hatesong as it's one of my favorites, but I think TAC would, well, hate it.
Come to think of it, I didn't send any of the songs in my top three:
Trains
Hatesong
Russia On Ice
I considered sending Russia on Ice, but I feel like Tim would find most of it boring. :corn
Same.
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Lowest scores of the round. At least I know it's not "me", since I'm basically picking stuff at random, but still....
:)
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I kinda wanted to send Hatesong as it's one of my favorites, but I think TAC would, well, hate it.
Come to think of it, I didn't send any of the songs in my top three:
Trains
Hatesong
Russia On Ice
I considered sending Russia on Ice, but I feel like Tim would find most of it boring. :corn
I wanted to send Trains but figured other people will. I did send a 10+ minutes song though. :lol
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I, too, sent a 10+ minute song to spite TAC specifically.
Trains would do very badly in this roulette, I feel. Watch me be wrong!
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Well I sent 2 over 10 minutes. :lol
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Since Deadwing is banned there's literally only like 3 10+ minute PT songs that wouldn't be absolute suicide to send :corn
That number does jump up a bit if you're including solo SW stuff though...
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I sent Linton Samuel Dawson and Jupiter Island just to annoy Tim
Not
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Someone send the full 40 minute Moonloop
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Or the Metanoia improvisations or the complete Voyage 34 trip, the possibilities are endless.
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OK, I'm home from work. Gotta peel through the PMs.
Just waiting for 3 2 more.
Elite
Stadler
LudwigVan
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Take me off the list! I tortured myself sufficiently to get two songs to submit!
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I am incredibly curious about what's being sent in this round, not gonna lie :corn
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If I was participating, I would have sent two songs from The Incident, because I'm unsure if anyone else would have.
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Someone send the full 40 minute Moonloop
Can't because it's instrumental. But, sending the 34 minute version of The Sky Moves Sideways and Raider II would be super trolly. :D.
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If I was participating, I would have sent two songs from The Incident, because I'm unsure if anyone else would have.
I included one in my possible three. :corn
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If I was participating, I would have sent two songs from The Incident, because I'm unsure if anyone else would have.
I included one in my possible three. :corn
The good news..I eliminated one of your Wild Cards™ last night.
The bad news...I had to listen to it to do so.
;D
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I hope the eliminated wild card was a song I sent too
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I sent just over 30 min of music. He did tell me that someone already sent one of them, so I guess I sent less.
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If I was participating, I would have sent two songs from The Incident, because I'm unsure if anyone else would have.
I included one in my possible three. :corn
The good news..I eliminated one of your Wild Cards™ last night.
The bad news...I had to listen to it to do so.
;D
Keeping me in suspense as well, are ya? :corn
I'm going to guess it's The Long One™ but my assumptions are often very wrong in this roulette
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I sent Linton Samuel Dawson and Jupiter Island just to annoy Tim
Not
Oh jeez, that would have been hilarious! :rollin
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You know what's really jumping out at me, with what I've listened to so far. is the influence of Led Zeppelin.
Also..there is some great lead guitar playing.
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You know what's really jumping out at me, with what I've listened to so far. is the influence of Led Zeppelin.
Also..there is some great lead guitar playing.
I do think that Steven Wilson is underrated as a guitarist. :metal
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You know what's really jumping out at me, with what I've listened to so far. is the influence of Led Zeppelin.
Also..there is some great lead guitar playing.
I do think that Steven Wilson is underrated as a guitarist. :metal
I've always enjoyed his playing as well. He's a better guitarist than singer!
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OK, I'm home from work. Gotta peel through the PMs.
Just waiting for 3 2 more.
Elite
Stadler
LudwigVan
Sent!
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You know what's really jumping out at me, with what I've listened to so far. is the influence of Led Zeppelin.
Also..there is some great lead guitar playing.
I do think that Steven Wilson is underrated as a guitarist. :metal
I've always enjoyed his playing as well. He's a better guitarist than singer!
He's ok, but I've never found him anything special.
But any songs Tim's received from the two albums he did with Guthrie Govan, different story.
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You know what's really jumping out at me, with what I've listened to so far. is the influence of Led Zeppelin.
Also..there is some great lead guitar playing.
He has his moments but I never really thought he was that good.
And I don't know what songs you received but his Pink Floyd influence is a lot bigger, but maybe more so in his earlier works.
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What if I sent a PT song and a SW song, with another PT song as my wildcard and you end up hating the SW song most? Do I meed to send two wildcards? :biggrin:
I need to know!
This is the round I'm sending a wildcard in, haven't done it yet :)
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What if I sent a PT song and a SW song, with another PT song as my wildcard and you end up hating the SW song most? Do I meed to send two wildcards? :biggrin:
I need to know!
This is the round I'm sending a wildcard in, haven't done it yet :)
You only have one Wild Card! That means you can send three songs instead of two.
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What if I sent a PT song and a SW song, with another PT song as my wildcard and you end up hating the SW song most? Do I meed to send two wildcards? :biggrin:
I need to know!
This is the round I'm sending a wildcard in, haven't done it yet :)
You only have one Wild Card! That means you can send three songs instead of two.
Also, it's perfectly fine to send two PT songs so the question didn't matter anyway.
It would be different if someone sent two SW songs and one PT song. In that situation, you'd only be able to eliminate one of the SW songs.
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You know what's really jumping out at me, with what I've listened to so far. is the influence of Led Zeppelin.
Also..there is some great lead guitar playing.
He has his moments but I never really thought he was that good.
And I don't know what songs you received but his Pink Floyd influence is a lot bigger, but maybe more so in his earlier works.
One of the songs I sent has a massive PF influence, and I don't even really like PF.
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I’ve definitely heard Pink Floyd. The drummer is at least a Bonham fan.
And Kwyjibo, I don’t know how technical the guitarist is, but there’s been some great lead passages.
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What if I sent a PT song and a SW song, with another PT song as my wildcard and you end up hating the SW song most? Do I meed to send two wildcards? :biggrin:
I need to know!
This is the round I'm sending a wildcard in, haven't done it yet :)
You only have one Wild Card! That means you can send three songs instead of two.
Also, it's perfectly fine to send two PT songs so the question didn't matter anyway.
It would be different if someone sent two SW songs and one PT song. In that situation, you'd only be able to eliminate one of the SW songs.
Oh wow wtf, I thought I *had* to send at least one SW song, or that it was a Steven Wilson solo round. Well then, never mind. Sending two PT songs this afternoon!
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I didn't send this song, and I don't know if he is the one playing guitar, but the solo on Detonation from SW's To the Bone is :metal
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What if I sent a PT song and a SW song, with another PT song as my wildcard and you end up hating the SW song most? Do I meed to send two wildcards? :biggrin:
I need to know!
This is the round I'm sending a wildcard in, haven't done it yet :)
You only have one Wild Card! That means you can send three songs instead of two.
Also, it's perfectly fine to send two PT songs so the question didn't matter anyway.
It would be different if someone sent two SW songs and one PT song. In that situation, you'd only be able to eliminate one of the SW songs.
Oh wow wtf, I thought I *had* to send at least one SW song, or that it was a Steven Wilson solo round. Well then, never mind. Sending two PT songs this afternoon!
No, you don’t need to send a SW song. It came up earlier in the thread and I said you could send a SW song instead of a PT song. I’ve gotten a few SW songs so far.
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Sending two PT songs this afternoon!
:corn
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:corn :corn :corn :corn
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I hadn't ever really thought about it before, but I guess I could see a little bit of Zeppelin in one of the songs I sent. More in the guitar than the drums. Could also see a comparison to Ramble On perhaps.
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Yeah, one interesting part of this roulette has been TAC's comparisons to other artists. It seems like every round he makes a comparison that I've never read before and would never have thought of on my own, but that makes sense when I think about it.
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yeah
"wow, devin townsend seems like a huge thin lizzy fan"
"opeth is basically thin lizzy when you get right down to it"
"steven wilson more like thinven lizzyson"
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Sending two PT songs this afternoon!
:corn
Sent! It's evening here though. Man, that was a long day today!
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yeah
"wow, devin townsend seems like a huge thin lizzy fan"
"opeth is basically thin lizzy when you get right down to it"
"steven wilson more like thinven lizzyson"
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Sending two PT songs this afternoon!
:corn
Sent! It's evening here though. Man, that was a long day today!
Thanks Rich! Once I eliminate your Wild Card, I'll post the list/playlist and stats!
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:corn
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yeah
"wow, devin townsend seems like a huge thin lizzy fan"
"opeth is basically thin lizzy when you get right down to it"
"steven wilson more like thinven lizzyson"
Storm Corrosion is a Thin Lizzy album
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yeah
"wow, devin townsend seems like a huge thin lizzy fan"
"opeth is basically thin lizzy when you get right down to it"
"steven wilson more like thinven lizzyson"
Storm Corrosion is a Thin Lizzy album
The Boys Are Back In Absentia
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Steven Wilson says he has "never heard of Thin Lizzy" in a new interview
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Steven Wilson reveals he's never heard any music at all other than his own. Because everything else is not relevant. ;D
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Steven Wilson remixes his wife's muffin mix.
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Love the Thin Lizzy jokes, guys! :lol :lol
Steven Wilson remixes his wife's muffin mix.
:lol
She's about to put it in the oven and he's like.."hey give me that!"
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Steven Wilson reveals he's never heard any music at all other than his own. Because everything else is not relevant. ;D
This reminded me of an interview I saw over a decade ago, Rusty Cooley said he was not in a big metal band because there weren't any musicians good enough to play with him.
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Here's the List!
Romdrums
So Called Friend
Sever
Cyril
Luminol (SW)
Dark Matter
Vmadera
Fear Of A Blank Planet
The Sound Of Musak
Buddy
Strip The Soul
Anesthetize
Wolfking
Don’t Hate Me
The Sound Of Muzak
Professor
Russia On Ice
Anesthetize
Puppies
Anesthetize (Live)
Hatesong (Live)
HOF
Lightbulb Sun
The Sound Of Muzak
Lonestar
Luminol (SW)
Anesthetize
Ariich
Trains
Ancestral (SW)
Kwyjibo
Even Less
Gravity Eyelids
425
Trains
Luminol (SW)
Evermind
Heartattack In A Layby
Ancestral (SW)
Kingshmegland
Time Flies
Hand Cannot Erase (SW)
Stadler
Men Of Wood
Trains
LudwigVan
Anesthetize
Normal
Elite
Dislocation Day
Synesthesia
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3aoVh0MnE2LoiTFOuuDz0y?si=5daf87bdffb34ec3
Elite..I'm using the original version of Synesthesia on Youtube, and not the extended version in the playlist.
Romdrums...I'm using the studio version of My So Called Friend from Youtube and not the live version in the playlist.
They are only listed as placeholders to remind me to listen to the youtube versions. They both sound fine, no need to worry about youtube quality. it's a non issue for me.
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Gosh, some very interesting choices. Quite a few that I definitely would not have thought to send you, so it'll be interesting to see what you think.
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Russia on Fire :lol
honestly surprised we got no Way Out of Here, that was my third pick in a theoretical wildcard situation
very unsurprised we got a lot of Luminol and Anesthetitze :lol
Anesthetize is the worst song on the album fwiw. i stand by this
Heartattack in a Layby is an excellent song that I think is gonna bore TAC to tears but we'll see :lol
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Gosh, some very interesting choices. Quite a few that I definitely would not have thought to send you, so it'll be interesting to see what you think.
Yeah, I definitely would not have sent early PT on this.
Then again, you and I both sent the choo choo song, which is probably counterintuitive—it's just such a good song that I'm willing to bet on it succeeding on its merits.
Russia on Fire :lol
honestly surprised we got no Way Out of Here, that was my third pick in a theoretical wildcard situation
very unsurprised we got a lot of Luminol and Anesthetitze :lol
Anesthetize is the worst song on the album fwiw. i stand by this
My third pick would have been either Way Out of Here or My Ashes.
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would have never considered My Ashes in a billion years, for much the same reason as Heartattack in a Layby
also yeah Trains is great too
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I find Heartattack in a Layby kind of dull and My Ashes pretty interesting and dynamic, but that might just be a matter of personal preference.
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I really thought hard about Gravity Eyelids.
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Cyril sent the best song and I didn't send it, though I almost did, because I don't think TAC would like it.
Nobody sent the song on my wildcard that got cut off.
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The two Wild Cards that were eliminated were Bonnie The Cat and Always Never, and I must say...they were easy choices.
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Who sent Bonnie the Cat? :lol
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Gosh, some very interesting choices. Quite a few that I definitely would not have thought to send you, so it'll be interesting to see what you think.
Yeah, I definitely would not have sent early PT on this.
Well, we'll find out! For one thing, Steven's voice is a lot less 'whiny' or 'nasal' on the early records and - to me - some of his compositions there are more interesting than on later records. I think Coma Divine is still one of the best live prog records I've heard. Signify is my favourite PT album, The Sky Moves Sideways and Up the Downstair are up there among his best too, if you ask me. There's a lot of demos and outtakes from that era that are good as well.
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I love Bonnie the Cat but it's very obviously not a TAC song. :lol
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Who sent Bonnie the Cat? :lol
Buddy The Hunter.
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Cyril sent the best song and I didn't send it, though I almost did, because I don't think TAC would like it.
I sent it because pre-pop PT seems like the way to go to me. What I suspect turned him off of blackest eyes (and maybe PT in general) is the very 90's pop rock verses and chorus and that sound is prevalent all over pretty much every PT album from stupid dream onward. Certainly not on every song but it's absolutely a defining aspect of it (and SW from HCE onwards too, tbh)
I'll be totally honest I almost sent Raven in place of Luminol too but I didn't want two slow tracks. I don't think I've listened to Luminol in years but it's a pretty obvious pick so whatever lol
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Drive home was another I thought hard about. That solo itself is worth it.
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My choices probably would've been Octane Twisted along with either The Blind House, The Incident, or Time Flies (nice to see Time Flies was sent, though!). If I picked something from Disc 2 from The Incident, I probably would've gone with Remember Me Lover rather than Bonnie the Cat. Some non-TI choices I would've made might include Prodigal, .3, or maybe even Four Chords That Made A Million. And if I were to send a Steven Wilson song, it'd be either Home Invasion or Drive Home.
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A few thoughts on the songs that were sent.
- I can't believe I forgot about So Called Friend. That is a great song!
- I'm not surprised Anesthetize got sent four times, despite Cyril thinking it's the worst song on the album.
- I'm a little worried that no one else sent live tracks. In my opinion, Porcupine Tree shines more in a live environment. Sometimes their studio albums can be a little.....too pristine.
- I almost sent Dark Matter, glad that Cyril sent it. Good song.
- Dislocated Day is another song I strongly considered, but ultimately decided against. I do think Tim will like it though.
- Also, I wavered back and forth over sending the live version of Anesthetize and Way Out of Here for way longer than I care to admit.
- Perhaps the strangest song that was sent is Gravity Eyelids. I don't think that will be Tim's jam at all, but who knows. :corn
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ftr my first submission of PT/SW was Blackest Eyes and Home Invasion/Regret #9 (they're tracked together on spotify so)
this probably would not have gone over well :lol
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For what it’s worth, I love Gravity Eyelids and I understand why someone would send it. I almost went with luve tracks from the Coma Divine album too, bit ultimately decided against it, because some of that is a little rough around the edges, which I personally enjoy a lot, but I think that live album is better as a whole than when you’d take tracks off it.
And Cyril, you nailed it for me why I went with older PT, aside from my general own enjoyment of those albums. I figured that would be the way to go for this roulette.
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Being the only one that sent Don't Hate Me, interested to see how it goes. I love that song.
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And Cyril, you nailed it for me why I went with older PT, aside from my general own enjoyment of those albums. I figured that would be the way to go for this roulette.
Except, when I heard the first few lines of Always Never, I wanted to punch my speakers. :lol
- Also, I wavered back and forth over sending the live version of Anesthetize
So while I already have the studio version sent, why not send me an additional 17 minute live version?? :lol
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it seems like a great way to make TAC hate the song and lower its score so i'm all for it :corn
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Romdrums
So Called Friend
Sever
Elite
Dislocated Day
Synesthesia
These are some bizarre-ass choices.
Synesthesia and Sever are fine I guess but Dislocated Day is one of my least-favorite PT songs, I find it just plain obnoxious.
Re-listening to So Called Friend for the first time in forever and holy fuck I forgot how much of a Tool ripoff this song is. :lol
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Romdrums going after the heavy PT thinking it is what Tim likes. Not rocket science.
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yeah relistening to it i think TAC's not gonna be wild about the middle third of luminol but the first and last thirds seem like a sure hit to me
this song's pretty good, probably one of the best SW solo songs tbh
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It's too wanky for him.
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Romdrums going after the heavy PT thinking it is what Tim likes. Not rocket science.
Sever's not even that heavy though.
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Romdrums going after the heavy PT thinking it is what Tim likes. Not rocket science.
Sever's not even that heavy though.
I think it's the heavy moments but I'm with you. Tim is a very peculiar duck when it comes to music.
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It's too wanky for him.
I like to wank.
Er..wanky music.
Heavy Porcupine Tree sounds like an awful idea, honestly. :lol
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It's too wanky for him.
I like to wank.
Er..wanky music.
Heavy Porcupine Tree sounds like an awful idea, honestly. :lol
We'll see in the results. Lol
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Yeah, one interesting part of this roulette has been TAC's comparisons to other artists. It seems like every round he makes a comparison that I've never read before and would never have thought of on my own, but that makes sense when I think about it.
Thanks, 425!
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Surprised I was the only one to send "Fear of a blank planet", we'll see how it does :corn
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OK, I've been through the playlist once.
Overall general First Impressions..
-The Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd influences are huge.
-The lead guitar playing is excellent. Such a wonderful tone.
-Some of the lyrics I picked up are kind of cringey.
-Steven Wilson's vocals are really awful in spots. They feel so patronizing. He definitely suffers from The Guy Who Thinks He's The Smartest Guy In The Room Syndrome.
-There are a couple of songs where I think "Why would anyone send this to me?".
-For those that sent Anesthetize...the final section drags the song down.
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I guess Russia On Fire is the sequel to Russia On Ice? :lol
I originally had Futile and swapped it for Russia. I had a feeling he would ding the latter end of Anesthetize. Not really surprised. Figured he'd enjoy Lifeson's solo.
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He couldn't tell you where Alex's solo is.
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OK, I've been through the playlist once.
Overall general First Impressions..
-The Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd influences are huge.
-The lead guitar playing is excellent. Such a wonderful tone.
-Some of the lyrics I picked up are kind of cringey.
-Steven Wilson's vocals are really awful in spots. They feel so patronizing. He definitely suffers from The Guy Who Thinks He's The Smartest Guy In The Room Syndrome.
-There are a couple of songs where I think "Why would anyone send this to me?".
-For those that sent Anesthetize...the final section drags the song down.
Truthfully, The Sound of Muzak’s lyrics are pretty bad. Also, the bolded part is not wrong!
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I guess Russia On Fire is the sequel to Russia On Ice? :lol
:rollin :rollin :rollin
I'm telling you, this roulette has been a nightmare in terms of keeping things straight.
I originally had Futile and swapped it for Russia.
Having never heard a lick of Futile, I can't imagine it'd be better than Russia On Ice.
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He couldn't tell you where Alex's solo is.
I know where it is. I was told by the 10 people that sent it where it was. The thing is, when I listened to the song, I realized I completely missed the solo. :lol
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yeah dark matter deffo has the pink floyd vibes in spades i'd say :lol
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-There are a couple of songs where I think "Why would anyone send this to me?".
That is called So Called Friend. So many great ones, and that one gets sent? Ugh.
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He couldn't tell you where Alex's solo is.
I know where it is. I was told by the 10 people that sent it where it was. The thing is, when I listened to the song, I realized I completely missed the solo. :lol
Too funny.
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These are some bizarre-ass choices.
Synesthesia and Sever are fine I guess but Dislocated Day is one of my least-favorite PT songs, I find it just plain obnoxious.
I can't stand Dislocated Day.
-Some of the lyrics I picked up are kind of cringey.
-Steven Wilson's vocals are really awful in spots. They feel so patronizing. He definitely suffers from The Guy Who Thinks He's The Smartest Guy In The Room Syndrome.
Definitely two complaints I understand and share to some degree.
I think Wilson has occasional moments of lyrical cleverness, but a lot of parts that I find odd and some that I find really off-putting. Part of the reason Deadwing and The Raven That Refused to Sing are easily my two favorite Wilson albums is that the lyrics on the former are mostly inscrutable and the lyrics on the latter are much better than Wilson's average. Meanwhile, I think In Absentia and FoaBP are really good musically, but so off-putting lyrically as to drag my enjoyment of them way down.
I think his vocals are best when he's doing the sort of laid-back Floydian thing or the plaintive thing. When he tries to bring an edge or attitude, it doesn't work. Lazarus, yes. Fear of a Blank Planet, no.
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Stadler
Men Of Wood
Trains
What the fuck??? How the hell did I miss this? :rollin
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Stadler
Men Of Wood
Trains
What the fuck??? How the hell did I miss this? :rollin
Wow, how did I miss this as well!?! Man, if Tim hated the guitar tone at the beginning of Gravity's Union, he's going to flip a table and punch a wall with this one... :rollin
I guess if I had know people would be sending the more obscure PT stuff, I would have sent Hokey Cokey :neverusethis: or maybe Nun's Cleavage...
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Heartattack in a Layby is an excellent song that I think is gonna bore TAC to tears but we'll see :lol
I agree but I don't give a shit anymore. :lol
I find Heartattack in a Layby kind of dull and My Ashes pretty interesting and dynamic, but that might just be a matter of personal preference.
I find you kind of dull, but that might just be a matter of personal preference.
Also good on Rich sending Ancestral too!
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Heartattack in a Layby is an excellent song that I think is gonna bore TAC to tears but we'll see :lol
I agree but I don't give a shit anymore. :lol
oh, to be near the bottom of the leaderboards and have the freedom to send whatever the hell you want just for kicks
i like ancestral but i feel like it's too slow to get going for TAC, watch me be wrong :lol
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I think it's better to send songs I like than to send songs I think might be in line with Tim's taste.
That's why I sent Gravity Eyelids because I think it's one of PTs best.
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Stadler
Men Of Wood
Trains
What the fuck??? How the hell did I miss this? :rollin
And I missed it too :rollin
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I think it's better to send songs I like than to send songs I think might be in line with Tim's taste.
That's why I sent Gravity Eyelids because I think it's one of PTs best.
Why can't it be both though? I sent songs that I like that I think might be in Line with Tim's taste. I'm completely with you that Gravity Eyelids is one of their best songs.
The most surprising things about these submissions to me are;
- Anesthetize being sent a lot; the song has good parts for sure, but it really doesn't justify it's 17 minute runtime
- nobody sent Way Out of Here
- I might have thought someone would send The Blind House, but the final section kind of drags that one down
- Trains is overrated
- Luminol is probably the 'safest' choice from SW's solo discography, but I'm a little surprised nobody tries something like Harmony Korine. My Book of Regrets might do well too.
- I'm not confident at all that my early PT picks will score well, but people saying Dislocated Day is bad.. :(
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I never really rated Anesthetize either, but I'm only a casual PT fan.
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I think it's better to send songs I like than to send songs I think might be in line with Tim's taste.
That's why I sent Gravity Eyelids because I think it's one of PTs best.
Why can't it be both though? I sent songs that I like that I think might be in Line with Tim's taste. I'm completely with you that Gravity Eyelids is one of their best songs.
The most surprising things about these submissions to me are;
- Anesthetize being sent a lot; the song has good parts for sure, but it really doesn't justify it's 17 minute runtime
- nobody sent Way Out of Here
- I might have thought someone would send The Blind House, but the final section kind of drags that one down
- Trains is overrated
- Luminol is probably the 'safest' choice from SW's solo discography, but I'm a little surprised nobody tries something like Harmony Korine. My Book of Regrets might do well too.
- I'm not confident at all that my early PT picks will score well, but people saying Dislocated Day is bad.. :(
Sure it can be both.
And Anesthesize is overrated and it's really three songs that are somehow connected. And although it has a Lifeson solo, it's only an okay solo imo. Didn't need Lifeson to play it.
I'm surprised nobody sent Drive Home, back then everyone was raving about it.
And Dislocated Day is a good song, but we'll see if it's good enough. :D
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I find Heartattack in a Layby kind of dull and My Ashes pretty interesting and dynamic, but that might just be a matter of personal preference.
I find you kind of dull, but that might just be a matter of personal preference.
No, I'm objectively dull. Ask WildRanger.
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I find Heartattack in a Layby kind of dull and My Ashes pretty interesting and dynamic, but that might just be a matter of personal preference.
I find you kind of dull, but that might just be a matter of personal preference.
No, I'm objectively dull. Ask WildRanger.
;D
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Second listens complete!
Lots to chew on. Surprisingly, these songs aren't very complex. I guess I was expecting something a bit more progressive, and a lot less straight forward.
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both PT and SW's solo stuff have a habit of starting off more prog and getting more pop and accessible as the discographies go on, so :lol
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It's not even so much that it's poppy. It's just...straight. And kind of jammy.
I'll also say that I've pretty much enjoyed most of what I've heard. yes, there's a few times where I want to punch Steven Wilson in the face, but mostly, it's been more than fine.
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Anesthetize is awesome from start to finish. Very cohesive song. :tup :tup
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Anesthetize is awesome from start to finish. Very cohesive song. :tup :tup
Maybe from the start to the finish of the second section...
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Anesthetize is awesome from start to finish. Very cohesive song. :tup :tup
Maybe from the start to the finish of the second section...
Nah, it's all great. That song does a great job of featuring the climax about 2/3 of the way through and then featuring a final section that is like the calm aftermath. Kind of like the grandchild of The Gates of Delirium by Yes, although the two songs are pretty different overall.
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Never heard that Yes song. :)
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Shocking. :lol :lol
:facepalm: :facepalm:
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The final section of Anesthetize is wonderful. One of the most depressing sections in PT's catalog.
In a good way. :lol
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The final section of Anesthetize is wonderful.
Buddy
Strip The Soul
Anesthetize
(https://c.tenor.com/oc7MfKdTd3kAAAAM/batman-i-see.gif)
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I feel like they should've switched the second and third sections of Anesthetize.
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BTW Tim, do you know which solo is Alex Lifeson on Anesthetize?
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The final section of Anesthetize is wonderful.
Buddy
Strip The Soul
Anesthetize
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I sent it for a reason, genius. :lol
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:lol
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Stadler
Men Of Wood
Trains
What the fuck??? How the hell did I miss this? :rollin
Wow, how did I miss this as well!?! Man, if Tim hated the guitar tone at the beginning of Gravity's Union, he's going to flip a table and punch a wall with this one... :rollin
I guess if I had know people would be sending the more obscure PT stuff, I would have sent Hokey Cokey :neverusethis: or maybe Nun's Cleavage...
I could just as easily as Tim run this roulette, because other than Neal Morse and... I forget the other [Ed.: Devin Townsend], I have no real love for any of these artists. Add to that the fact that while we like a LOT of the same bands, if you took "Tim's Top Ten" of any band it's usually my "Bottom Top Ten" and vice versa, I'm just looking for interesting material to send. I sell Trains for a living (sort of; I'm not a salesman) so there's that, and I thought the other was funny.
(And all this is meant to HAVE fun; I'm hoping people get a laugh while we talk music.)
Oh, and by the way, I agree with this 100%:
-Steven Wilson's vocals are really awful in spots. They feel so patronizing. He definitely suffers from The Guy Who Thinks He's The Smartest Guy In The Room Syndrome.
and this:
Yeah, one interesting part of this roulette has been TAC's comparisons to other artists. It seems like every round he makes a comparison that I've never read before and would never have thought of on my own, but that makes sense when I think about it.
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Second listens complete!
Lots to chew on. Surprisingly, these songs aren't very complex. I guess I was expecting something a bit more progressive, and a lot less straight forward.
Yeah, Opeth are a lot more traditionally proggy than PT.
Steven Wilson actually spurns the ‘complex’ prog tradition of bands like Yes and ELP, instead going for the ambient, atmospheric Pink Floyd-ian prog style. At one time, he publicly scoffed at Dream Theater’s brand of prog, for which he apparently apologized for in Repentance on Systematic Chaos.
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Second listens complete!
Lots to chew on. Surprisingly, these songs aren't very complex. I guess I was expecting something a bit more progressive, and a lot less straight forward.
Yeah, Opeth are a lot more traditionally proggy than PT.
Steven Wilson actually spurns the ‘complex’ prog tradition of bands like Yes and ELP, instead going for the ambient, atmospheric Pink Floyd-ian prog style. At one time, he publicly scoffed at Dream Theater’s brand of prog, for which he apparently apologized for in Repentance on Systematic Chaos.
Gord, were you at the show where Ackerfeldt came out and sang a verse?
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Second listens complete!
Lots to chew on. Surprisingly, these songs aren't very complex. I guess I was expecting something a bit more progressive, and a lot less straight forward.
Yeah, Opeth are a lot more traditionally proggy than PT.
Steven Wilson actually spurns the ‘complex’ prog tradition of bands like Yes and ELP, instead going for the ambient, atmospheric Pink Floyd-ian prog style. At one time, he publicly scoffed at Dream Theater’s brand of prog, for which he apparently apologized for in Repentance on Systematic Chaos.
Gord, were you at the show where Ackerfeldt came out and sang a verse?
Yes, I was. If I recall, it got messed up a little because when it came time for him to speak, the microphone failed on him, and they had to improvise/backtrack a bit to make it happen.
Also, “publicly scoff” is probably too strong a phrase, but I’m pretty sure SW has said that he didn’t care for DT’s style of music.
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I have always thought that it would've been cooler if he read some of the spoken word parts instead of simply singing a verse.
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Also, “publicly scoff” is probably too strong a phrase, but I’m pretty sure SW has said that he didn’t care for DT’s style of music.
Yes, DT is one of the many bands and "traditional" prog is one of the many directions SW doesn't care for. You could fill books with the bands/artists he doesn't like/don't care for/don't find relevant. And while that is his decision, because it's his taste, makes you wonder why he has to tell everyone about it.
Kinda like a vegan. :D
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Also, “publicly scoff” is probably too strong a phrase, but I’m pretty sure SW has said that he didn’t care for DT’s style of music.
Yes, DT is one of the many bands and "traditional" prog is one of the many directions SW doesn't care for. You could fill books with the bands/artists he doesn't like/don't care for/don't find relevant. And while that is his decision, because it's his taste, makes you wonder why he has to tell everyone about it.
Kinda like a vegan. :D
Or people who do crossfit. :lol
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Update.. moving right along. I think I have 7 writeups done. Hoping for Thursday. We'll see.
I also want to mention again that the lead guitar playing is outstanding. Is SW his own lead guitarist?
If so, what is his guitar of choice?
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SW is the lead guitarist on the Porcupine Tree material, but not on the solo material. That's Guthrie Govan on the solo albums you got stuff from.
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Update.. moving right along. I think I have 7 writeups done. Hoping for Thursday. We'll see.
I also want to mention again that the lead guitar playing is outstanding. Is SW his own lead guitarist?
If so, what is his guitar of choice?
In Porcupine Tree, yes, Wilson is always the lead guitarist in the studio (and usually live as well).
In his solo career, it has been more varied. I believe he was the lead guitarist on the first two solo albums, but Govan joined and became the lead guitarist for The Raven and Hand Cannot Erase (his 3rd and 4th solo albums). And then he went back to being the lead guitarist most of the time on his last two studio albums.
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If so, what is his guitar of choice?
I believe he is mainly a PRS guy. Seems to be what I have seen him most with, at least in the PT days.
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Cool. Thank you, all.
Not familiar with PRS.
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To me, PRS>>>>Fender>>Gibson.
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Lifeson went hard into PRS in the 90's. Watch any video from Rush from then on he is mostly playing a PRS. He is still endorsed by them to this day.
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Cool. Never heard of them, but I'm not a guitarist. But I was interested after hearing the lead tones.
To me, PRS>>>>Fender>>Gibson.
I don't know. Gary Moore played a Gibson Les Paul, and it's the best I've ever heard a guitar sound.
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Cool. Never heard of them, but I'm not a guitarist. But I was interested after hearing the lead tones.
To me, PRS>>>>Fender>>Gibson.
I don't know. Gary Moore played a Gibson Les Paul, and it's the best I've ever heard a guitar sound.
I'll give that to Les Paul, they sound great. But that's about the only thing they have going for them. Those guitars are heavy and uncomfortable.
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Also, “publicly scoff” is probably too strong a phrase, but I’m pretty sure SW has said that he didn’t care for DT’s style of music.
Yes, DT is one of the many bands and "traditional" prog is one of the many directions SW doesn't care for. You could fill books with the bands/artists he doesn't like/don't care for/don't find relevant. And while that is his decision, because it's his taste, makes you wonder why he has to tell everyone about it.
Kinda like a vegan. :D
Or people who do crossfit. :lol
If you’re a vegan who does CrossFit, what do you tell people first? :D
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Cool. Never heard of them, but I'm not a guitarist. But I was interested after hearing the lead tones.
To me, PRS>>>>Fender>>Gibson.
I don't know. Gary Moore played a Gibson Les Paul, and it's the best I've ever heard a guitar sound.
The Les Paul has the history and mystique, and an iconic list of players, but PRS guitars are better built, more consistent, and are generally more versatile. They were designed to split the difference between a Les Paul and a Strat, and I think they nailed it.
I'll give that to Les Paul, they sound great. But that's about the only thing they have going for them. Those guitars are heavy and uncomfortable.
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Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.
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Update.. moving right along. I think I have 7 writeups done. Hoping for Thursday. We'll see.
I also want to mention again that the lead guitar playing is outstanding. Is SW his own lead guitarist?
If so, what is his guitar of choice?
I think where SW really shines is in finding the right sounds. His playing and his music in general is less about technical prowess and more about textures, soundscapes and atmosphere.
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Cool. Never heard of them, but I'm not a guitarist. But I was interested after hearing the lead tones.
To me, PRS>>>>Fender>>Gibson.
I don't know. Gary Moore played a Gibson Les Paul, and it's the best I've ever heard a guitar sound.
That's because it was Gary Moore behind it. He'd make a $200 guitar sound better than a $2000 guitar played by anyone else.
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Cool. Never heard of them, but I'm not a guitarist. But I was interested after hearing the lead tones.
To me, PRS>>>>Fender>>Gibson.
I don't know. Gary Moore played a Gibson Les Paul, and it's the best I've ever heard a guitar sound.
That's because it was Gary Moore behind it. He'd make a $200 guitar sound better than a $2000 guitar played by anyone else.
I’m listening to After Hours RIGHT NOW at work!!
Cold Day In Hell :metal
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And that's the difference between Gary Moore and me.
He can make a shit guitar sound good and I can make a good guitar sound like shit. ;D
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And that's the difference between Gary Moore and me.
He can make a shit guitar sound good and I can make a good guitar sound like shit. ;D
:lol
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Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.
Indeed.
His stuff with the Aristocrats is incredible.
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:corn
all i want for christmas is wilsults
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And that's the difference between Gary Moore and me.
He can make a shit guitar sound good and I can make a good guitar sound like shit. ;D
:lol
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:corn
all i want for christmas is wilsults
That would mean I have to listen to Mastadon for Christmas though.
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:corn
all i want for christmas is wilsults
That would mean I have to listen to Mastadon for Christmas though.
Maybe you should listen to Mastodon instead!
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:corn
all i want for christmas is wilsults
That would mean I have to listen to Mastadon for Christmas though.
Maybe you should listen to Mastodon instead!
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Yeah, no EDM in this thread. That Mastadon guy changed his name so as to not be confused with good music. :lol
https://edm.com/news/mastadon-rebrands-marauda
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Oh, Mast-o-don.
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Oh, Mast-o-don.
Actually..
Ah, Mast-o-don.
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Not to also be confused with Mastedon.
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Not to also be confused with Mastedon.
Master Don.
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Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.
Lowdz mentioned The Aristocrats. Anything else that he is on?
:corn
all i want for christmas is wilsults
The Lovely Mrs TAC informed me this morning that she is taking the rest of the week off. There goes my afternoon listening! :yeahright :lol
BUT, I'm 17 writeups down and 7 to go.
Here's what I would say about the results.. I've said it before, but a 7.5 means I LIKE IT. I think we're going to be really bunched up between 7.5 and 8.0. Pretty sure there's no 8.5's at this point. There might be a song or three below 7.5, but I have generally liked pretty much everything I've heard.
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Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.
Lowdz mentioned The Aristocrats. Anything else that he is on?
He was in Asia for the Aura and Silent Nation albums. He also played some guitar on Ayreon's The Source album.
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Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.
Lowdz mentioned The Aristocrats. Anything else that he is on?
He was in Asia for the Aura and Silent Nation albums. He also played some guitar on Ayreon's The Source album.
Are those Asia albums any good? What are the lineups on those albums?
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Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.
Lowdz mentioned The Aristocrats. Anything else that he is on?
He was in Asia for the Aura and Silent Nation albums. He also played some guitar on Ayreon's The Source album.
Are those Asia albums any good? What are the lineups on those albums?
If you were not inclined to like Asia to begin with, then I can't see how you'd like those two albums. They don't even have John Wetton on vocals, since he was replaced by a dude named John Payne. I rather enjoy Aura and Silent Nation, but they sorta have this generic 90's soft rock keyboard/watery new-age-y sound with some touches of prog here and there. I remember Stads saying that he absolutely hated this iteration of Asia.
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That doesn't sound very promising. :lol
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Watching Guthrie guitar improvs and lessons on YouTube is a satisfying and demoralising experience. Dude is incredible.
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Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.
Lowdz mentioned The Aristocrats. Anything else that he is on?
He was in Asia for the Aura and Silent Nation albums. He also played some guitar on Ayreon's The Source album.
Are those Asia albums any good? What are the lineups on those albums?
For what it's worth, the first Asia album is iconic in my view, and I'm a big fan of the second one as well. I saw the John Payne Asia live at Toad's Place (Steve Howe toured with them and played like half the set) and it's one of the worst concerts I've ever seen. I don't own - nor will I ever own - any of the NON-John Wetton Asia albums. I know that's harsh, and others have more patience or forgiveness for the John Payne Asia, but to me, that iteration does not exist.
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Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.
Lowdz mentioned The Aristocrats. Anything else that he is on?
He was in Asia for the Aura and Silent Nation albums. He also played some guitar on Ayreon's The Source album.
Are those Asia albums any good? What are the lineups on those albums?
For what it's worth, the first Asia album is iconic in my view, and I'm a big fan of the second one as well. I saw the John Payne Asia live at Toad's Place (Steve Howe toured with them and played like half the set) and it's one of the worst concerts I've ever seen. I don't own - nor will I ever own - any of the NON-John Wetton Asia albums. I know that's harsh, and others have more patience or forgiveness for the John Payne Asia, but to me, that iteration does not exist.
For Christmas one year, my brother found a bootleg version of an Asia concert on DVD with John Payne, Geoff Downes, Chris Slade on drums, and Guthrie on guitar. It was awful. John Payne trying to sing Wetton-era songs was super cringe-y. I think I ended up either throwing it away or giving it back to my brother.
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So apparently after John Wetton leaves, Asia is pretty Paynefull to listen to?
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:facepalm:
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So apparently after John Wetton leaves, Asia is pretty Paynefull to listen to?
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So apparently after John Wetton leaves, Asia is pretty Paynefull to listen to?
Dad jokes. Like a boss.
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So apparently after John Wetton leaves, Asia is pretty Paynefull to listen to?
Dad jokes. Like a boss.
All day long! My poor kids. :lol
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I'm going to be the maverick and say that Silent Nation is the only Asia album I know that interested me much. :P
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So apparently after John Wetton leaves, Asia is pretty Paynefull to listen to?
Dad jokes. Like a boss.
:lol
I'm going to be the maverick and say that Silent Nation is the only Asia album I know that interested me much. :P
When it was just Downes, my interest waned as well like Stads. I did get to see the ordiginal lineup on the Alpha tour in 1983. I was 15. Chris DeBurg opened up.
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I'm going to be the maverick and say that Silent Nation is the only Asia album I know that interested me much. :P
I prefer the silent album.
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What is Heartattack By A Layby about?
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What is Heartattack By A Layby about?
A heart attack in a layby.
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What is Heartattack By A Layby about?
A heart attack in a layby.
WTF's a layby?
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What is Heartattack By A Layby about?
A heart attack in a layby.
WTF's a layby?
It's where you have heart attacks
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lay-by
/ˈlā ˌbī/
noun
noun: layby
British
an area at the side of a road where vehicles may pull off the road and stop; a rest stop.
a mooring area along a canal, river, or harbor.
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That's weird. I just looked it up too. That's not what my dictionary says:
lay-by
/ˈlā ˌbī/
noun
noun: layby
British
an area at the side of a road where Buddy's and Cyril's bodies will be found.
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That's weird. I just looked it up too. That's not what my dictionary says:
lay-by
/ˈlā ˌbī/
noun
noun: layby
British
an area at the side of a road where Buddy's and Cyril's bodies will be found.
Tire tracks fresh on the ground, where we will be found
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It's a place to dig Tim out of his time capsule.
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no my body is buried underneath the floorboards
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So how is it going with the write ups and scores? how many sub 7 scores are there?
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So how is it going with the write ups and scores? how many sub 7 scores are there?
I have 6 songs left to listen again/writeup.
Then I'll rank them, and then I'll score them. I have a song in mind that I will score a 7.5. That means that I like it. So the other songs scores will be rated against that one. There's nothing that will be graded under a 7. There may be 2 or 3 under the 7.5, but most of them are at 7.5 or over.
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Score Distribution:
8.0-8.5... 8 songs
7.5-7.9...11 songs
7.1-7.4...5 songs
There are TWO 8.5's.
And let me apologize now if any of you are unhappy with your scores. Porcupine Tree feels like a band that the more you spend time with, the better they get. Me? I had basically 5 listens to each song, so I won't have the attachment that some of you have. I'd probably be like WTF if I sent Hallowed Be Thy Name in an Iron Maiden round and it scored poorly.
But suffice to say that I actually LIKED pretty much everything that was sent. You guys have given me a new appreciation for sure. I'll definitely do some exploring in the upcoming year. So..thank you.
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You're all good bro. I won't loose any sleep.
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But suffice to say that I actually LIKED pretty much everything that was sent. You guys have given me a new appreciation for sure.
Okay, so now we know it really is stockholm syndrome.
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You're all good bro. I won't loose any sleep.
I wasn't worried about you! :lol
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I'll kill you!
No, I'll mock you like we're brothers still. Lol
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I'll kill you!
No, I'll mock you like we're brothers still. Lol
Yeah, but after you kill me.
KingMEHgland
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You're all good bro. I won't loose any sleep.
I wasn't worried about you! :lol
:rollin
Fair play.
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I'll kill you!
No, I'll mock you like we're brothers still. Lol
Yeah, but after you kill me.
KingMEHgland
Dead to me.
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I'll kill you!
No, I'll mock you like we're brothers still. Lol
Yeah, but after you kill me.
KingMEHgland
Dead to me.
:lol :P :lol
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:lol
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But suffice to say that I actually LIKED pretty much everything that was sent. You guys have given me a new appreciation for sure.
Okay, so now we know it really is stockholm syndrome.
:lol no kidding!
Can't speak for anyone else, my own experience with roulettes is that I do tend to have a mindset of searching for things to like, and end up enjoying almost everything I get to some degree. But that doesn't necessarily translate to wanting to actually spend more time listening to those artists in the future.
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But suffice to say that I actually LIKED pretty much everything that was sent. You guys have given me a new appreciation for sure.
Okay, so now we know it really is stockholm syndrome.
:lol no kidding!
Can't speak for anyone else, my own experience with roulettes is that I do tend to have a mindset of searching for things to like, and end up enjoying almost everything I get to some degree. But that doesn't necessarily translate to wanting to actually spend more time listening to those artists in the future.
There's always exceptions but this is generally me with roulette also.
I hope you ended up getting my PM too.
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lay-by
/ˈlā ˌbī/
noun
noun: layby
British
an area at the side of a road where vehicles may pull off the road and stop; a rest stop.
a mooring area along a canal, river, or harbor.
Dude. Wow. I didn't pick up on that at all! [DARK SUBJECT MATTER ALERT! DARK SUBJECT MATTER ALERT!] My friend Mary I posted about in the Depressed/Angry thread (in response to Harmony's post) actually died of a heartattack in a layby. It was a commuter parking lot, to be precise, but it was a sort of "rest stop" for I-91. That's messed up!
But I still don't like Steven Wilson's music. :)
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So how is it going with the write ups and scores? how many sub 7 scores are there?
I have 6 songs left to listen again/writeup.
Then I'll rank them, and then I'll score them. I have a song in mind that I will score a 7.5. That means that I like it. So the other songs scores will be rated against that one. There's nothing that will be graded under a 7. Stadler's will be There may be 2 or 3 under the 7.5, but most of them are at 7.5 or over.
Fixed, for accuracy. ;) :) :) :) :):)
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But suffice to say that I actually LIKED pretty much everything that was sent. You guys have given me a new appreciation for sure.
Okay, so now we know it really is stockholm syndrome.
:lol no kidding!
Can't speak for anyone else, my own experience with roulettes is that I do tend to have a mindset of searching for things to like, and end up enjoying almost everything I get to some degree. But that doesn't necessarily translate to wanting to actually spend more time listening to those artists in the future.
That's me too. I WANT to like most of the music I listen to, but sometimes it's just not possible. (That, and I feel bad slagging off something one of my friends values).
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lay-by
/ˈlā ˌbī/
noun
noun: layby
British
an area at the side of a road where vehicles may pull off the road and stop; a rest stop.
a mooring area along a canal, river, or harbor.
Dude. Wow. I didn't pick up on that at all! [DARK SUBJECT MATTER ALERT! DARK SUBJECT MATTER ALERT!] My friend Mary I posted about in the Depressed/Angry thread (in response to Harmony's post) actually died of a heartattack in a layby. It was a commuter parking lot, to be precise, but it was a sort of "rest stop" for I-91. That's messed up!
But I still don't like Steven Wilson's music. :)
Everyone has faults Stads. This is yours. :lol
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So how is it going with the write ups and scores? how many sub 7 scores are there?
I have 6 songs left to listen again/writeup.
Then I'll rank them, and then I'll score them. I have a song in mind that I will score a 7.5. That means that I like it. So the other songs scores will be rated against that one. There's nothing that will be graded under a 7. Stadler's will be There may be 2 or 3 under the 7.5, but most of them are at 7.5 or over.
Fixed, for accuracy. ;) :) :) :) :):)
Just one of them I think. ;D
I have a fairly in depth writeup on that one too.
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So how is it going with the write ups and scores? how many sub 7 scores are there?
I have 6 songs left to listen again/writeup.
Then I'll rank them, and then I'll score them. I have a song in mind that I will score a 7.5. That means that I like it. So the other songs scores will be rated against that one. There's nothing that will be graded under a 7. Stadler's will be There may be 2 or 3 under the 7.5, but most of them are at 7.5 or over.
Fixed, for accuracy. ;) :) :) :) :):)
Just one of them I think. ;D
I have a fairly in depth writeup on that one too.
I didn't know Men of Wood had that much depth to it. :)
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Why would you think it was that one? He sent TWO songs.
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Results in a couple of hours when I get home from work. Hopefully by 2:30 Boston time.
There has been a small shuffle in in both the Top 3 and the Bottom 3.
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I outscored everyone by around 2 points and am now in the Top 3. Right?
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Trains is the best Porcupine Tree song but it certainly isn't for everyone and I would not expect TAC to fall under the group of people it is for, which is why I didn't send it
lay-by
/ˈlā ˌbī/
noun
noun: layby
British
an area at the side of a road where vehicles may pull off the road and stop; a rest stop.
a mooring area along a canal, river, or harbor.
Dude. Wow. I didn't pick up on that at all! [DARK SUBJECT MATTER ALERT! DARK SUBJECT MATTER ALERT!] My friend Mary I posted about in the Depressed/Angry thread (in response to Harmony's post) actually died of a heartattack in a layby. It was a commuter parking lot, to be precise, but it was a sort of "rest stop" for I-91. That's messed up!
But I still don't like Steven Wilson's music. :)
That's awful, I'm sorry to hear about that.
What makes Heartattack In A Layby so ungodly depressing for me isn't that it's about a man dying from a heart attack - it's that if you read the lyrics, it's clear that he doesn't realize he's dying. The ending of the song isn't him accepting his fate, it's him thinking about how he'll return home to his wife who he just had an argument with and apologize to her. "We'll grow old together". Couple that with the music and... oof. It might not be the most emotionally authentic song ever, but it makes up for that with flawless calculation and execution to deliberately make me feel as shitty as possible. :lol
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Trains is the best Porcupine Tree song but it certainly isn't for everyone and I would not expect TAC to fall under the group of people it is for, which is why I didn't send it
lay-by
/ˈlā ˌbī/
noun
noun: layby
British
an area at the side of a road where vehicles may pull off the road and stop; a rest stop.
a mooring area along a canal, river, or harbor.
Dude. Wow. I didn't pick up on that at all! [DARK SUBJECT MATTER ALERT! DARK SUBJECT MATTER ALERT!] My friend Mary I posted about in the Depressed/Angry thread (in response to Harmony's post) actually died of a heartattack in a layby. It was a commuter parking lot, to be precise, but it was a sort of "rest stop" for I-91. That's messed up!
But I still don't like Steven Wilson's music. :)
That's awful, I'm sorry to hear about that.
What makes Heartattack In A Layby so ungodly depressing for me isn't that it's about a man dying from a heart attack - it's that if you read the lyrics, it's clear that he doesn't realize he's dying. The ending of the song isn't him accepting his fate, it's him thinking about how he'll return home to his wife who he just had an argument with and apologize to her. "We'll grow old together". Couple that with the music and... oof. It might not be the most emotionally authentic song ever, but it makes up for that with flawless calculation and execution to deliberately make me feel as shitty as possible. :lol
The mix on that song is amazing. There are a lot of little details in there that really add to the song's atmosphere. The intertwining vocal lines at the end are brilliant.
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Trains is the best PT song?
I feel like I’ve ranked like 8-10 above it.
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Trains is the best PT song?
I feel like I’ve ranked like 8-10 above it.
boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Trains is also probably my favorite PT song.
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Trains is the best PT song?
I feel like I’ve ranked like 8-10 above it.
I'm a PT fan and while I like the song, I don't think it makes my top 20.
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Trains is the best PT song?
No, it's not. Not even close to the best from the album it's on.
:biggrin:
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Some people will tell you that Dark Matter is the best Porcupine Tree song and Luminol is the best Steven Wilson song.
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Trains is the best PT song for sure. I don't listen to the band very much anymore, but I'm always happy to listen to that one.
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I love me some Trains.
As for Heart Attack in a Layby, I always got the sense that Steven Wilson took snippets of random news stories/tragedies and extrapolated them out into his own personal re-telling of it.
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I love me some Trains.
As for Heart Attack in a Layby, I always got the sense that Steven Wilson took snippets of random news stories/tragedies and extrapolated them out into his own personal re-telling of it.
i mean this is literally the entirety of Hand Cannot Erase so yeah
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Trains is the best PT song for sure. I don't listen to the band very much anymore, but I'm always happy to listen to that one.
I don't consider it the best one, but I do love it and just love the feeling of nostalgia it explores. Such a warm and lovely song, and a nice contrast from... well pretty much everything else PT has done. :lol
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For those of you who rate Trains highly, when did you become a fan of the band?
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Became a fan in-between Deadwing and FOABP, so around 2005-'06.
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For those of you who rate Trains highly, when did you become a fan of the band?
In Absentia was the first thing I got from PT back when it was released, so it was my introduction to PT/SW.
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Became a fan in-between Deadwing and FOABP, so around 2005-'06.
Yeah probably about the same.
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Became a fan in-between Deadwing and FOABP, so around 2005-'06.
For those of you who rate Trains highly, when did you become a fan of the band?
In Absentia was the first thing I got from PT back when it was released, so it was my introduction to PT/SW.
Became a fan in-between Deadwing and FOABP, so around 2005-'06.
Yeah probably about the same.
That makes sense. I got into PT back in 1995 when The Sky Moves Sideways came out. Signify was my favorite up until they released In Absentia. I didn't really like the change from Signify to Stupid Dream, and I skipped Lightbulb Sun when it first came out. Both of those albums have grown on me quite a bit since then. In Absentia got me back into the band in a big way.
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Trains is the best PT song for sure. I don't listen to the band very much anymore, but I'm always happy to listen to that one.
I don't consider it the best one, but I do love it and just love the feeling of nostalgia it explores. Such a warm and lovely song, and a nice contrast from... well pretty much everything else PT has done. :lol
I genuinely do think it's the best one, but yeah, that warmer feeling is another part of why I'm more inclined to listen to it than the others.
For those of you who rate Trains highly, when did you become a fan of the band?
2013ish.
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Scorecupine Tree Wilsults!
Romdrums
So Called Friend...7.5
This is actually a cool song. The druns are really powerful. The pre chorus, or is it post chorus, is played to a nice beefy riff. And I like the chorus as well. Excellent vocal in that. Overall, a nice to the point submission that I really liked.
Sever...7.7
The first thing that jumps out at me is the drum pattern. Not difficult, but inviting. The drums are really the best part of the song. They have a great sound, especially the hi-hat. When the song intensifies a bit about four and a half minutes in, the drums are fantastic. I don’t know that this song does anything spectacular, but it’s quite trance-like and really cool.
7.5+7.7=15.2/2=7.6
Cyril
Luminol (SW)...8.3
I like the beginning to this. Nice audible bass, and the drumming reminds me of Stewart Copeland. Cool keyboard solo about three minutes in. The middle section is pretty nice. I like the piano solo. The ending is interesting. I like that it rocks. Solid track for sure.
Dark Matter...8.5
Another mellowish tune that keeps a really nice pace. It’s mellow, but not boring. Has a pink Floyd feel to it, with a hint of Led Zeppelin. I like the keyboard around 5:20 as it introduces the solo section. This is a great solo too. Really strong notes. Excellent song. I love it!
8.3+8.5=16.8/2=8.4
Vmadera
Fear Of A Blank Planet...8.4
The acoustic intro feels like a slower version of the one in Flotsam & Jetsam’s Final Step. X-Box is a God to me? WTF?? Did he just say that? I like the pace to this, and the chorus is catchy. I like the John Paul Jones keyboards at 6:10. Overall, a really strong song, but damn, these lyrics blow.
The Sound Of Musak...7.5
So I have definitely heard this before. It may have been on the mix CD that I got 15 years ago. The chorus sounds familiar. I don’t love the verses, but the chorus is nice and the song is more than pleasant.
8.4+7.5=15.9/2=7.95
Buddy
Strip The Soul...7.2
This song is fairly unexciting for the first three minutes. I like the jammy RHCP part at 3:38, and I love the short drum flourish to end that section at 5:08.This ends real heavy, but unfortunately, this song is a miss for me.
Anesthetize...7.9
So I like the first part a lot. Keeps a steady pace, and while it plays it safe, I’m still quite engaged. Culminating an Alex Lifeson solo that’s cool to hear. The song picks up for the Pills section. Nice hi-hat sound in the verse part of this section. The chorus is good too. I assume the Surfer section is unconsciousness. More John Paul Jones styled keyboards in this part. This last part has grown on me since the first listen. I can’t say I love it, but I think I understand it. This is a long song, but it’s generally enjoyable throughout. It never really drags until the Surfer part, but I guess they were going for that.
7.2+7.9=15.1/2=7.55
Wolfking
Don’t Hate Me...8.4
This is a pretty chill song. If I ignore the lyrics, this is excellent. I love the chorus, and SW’s voice is quite interesting. Really love the note choices in the chorus’ vocals. But goddamn, fucking gag me with these words. I’ll fucking hate you if I want, pussy. This solo section is cool. Is that a flute? Cool sax too. Excellent drumming here as well. About the 5 minute mark on for this spacey section, the bass reminds me of Fields Of The Nephilim. Last Exit For The Lost or something. Another chorus and nice outro solo to close it out. Excellent tune.
The Sound Of Muzak...7.5
So I have definitely heard this before. It may have been on the mix CD that I got 15 years ago. The chorus sounds familiar. I don’t love the verses, but the chorus is nice and the song is more than pleasant.
8.4+7.5=15.9/2=7.95
Professor
Russia On Ice...8.5
The very beginning reminds me of The Rain Song. Big time Pink Floyd going on here. The solo that starts right before the 5 minute mark is gloriously paced. I can do without the electronic effects as the song picks up. I like that it stays instrumental in the heavy section. Rides out with some soft noise. This is really good music to chill too. I would’ve loved this when I was still getting baked. Heck, I love it now!
Anesthetize...7.9
So I like the first part a lot. Keeps a steady pace, and while it plays it safe, I’m still quite engaged. Culminating an Alex Lifeson solo that’s cool to hear. The song picks up for the Pills section. Nice hi-hat sound in the verse part of this section. The chorus is good too. I assume the Surfer section is unconsciousness. More John Paul Jones styled keyboards in this part. This last part has grown on me since the first listen. I can’t say I love it, but I think I understand it. This is a long song, but it’s generally enjoyable throughout. It never really drags until the Surfer part, but I guess they were going for that.
8.5+7.9=16.4/2=8.2
Puppies
Anesthetize (Live)...7.9
This seems to stay pretty consistent with the studio version, right to the run time. Kudos for them for playing the whole song live, but not kudos for you for making me listen to the live version when like ten other people sent me the studio version.
Hatesong (Live)...8.0
I didn’t check out the studio version so I have no point of reference. But this song is heavy and beefy in spots. The “yeah yeah yeah”s are awful though. But instrumentally, they are tight as hell. I feel like if I get anything by PT, it’d be a live album.
8.0+7.9=15.9/2=7.95
HOF
Lightbulb Sun...8.4
Is this Jimmy Page on guest guitar? Sound like him in the acoustic intro and the chorus riff. I like this song a lot. The verse is cool enough. Has an Alex Lifeson style solo at 2:25ish. I love the solo again at 4:00. Great climax. The song chills in the end, which is a nice touch. At five and a half minutes, it’s on point, but I could’ve gone another minute easy of that second solo. Excellent tune.
The Sound Of Muzak...7.5
So I have definitely heard this before. It may have been on the mix CD that I got 15 years ago. The chorus sounds familiar. I don’t love the verses, but the chorus is nice and the song is more than pleasant.
8.4+7.5=15.9/2=7.95
Lonestar
Luminol (SW)...8.3
I like the beginning to this. Nice audible bass, and the drumming reminds me of Stewart Copeland. Cool keyboard solo about three minutes in. The middle section is pretty nice. I like the piano solo. The ending is interesting. I like that it rocks. Solid track for sure.
Anesthetize...7.9
So I like the first part a lot. Keeps a steady pace, and while it plays it safe, I’m still quite engaged. Culminating an Alex Lifeson solo that’s cool to hear. The song picks up for the Pills section. Nice hi-hat sound in the verse part of this section. The chorus is good too. I assume the Surfer section is unconsciousness. More John Paul Jones styled keyboards in this part. This last part has grown on me since the first listen. I can’t say I love it, but I think I understand it. This is a long song, but it’s generally enjoyable throughout. It never really drags until the Surfer part, but I guess they were going for that.
8.3+7.9=16.2/2=8.1
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Ariich
Trains...7.7
I love the acoustic solo at 2:15. I also love the confident drumming in the last minute. This is a really solid song that doesn’t overstay it’s welcome. It’s powerful in spots without being fake heavy. Very nice.
Ancestral (SW)...8.2
This electric beginning has me apprehensive. The vocal lines are excellent though. I love the Gary Moore solo at 4:02. Amazing familiarity. Instrumentally, it’s really cool till about the 8:10 mark. Not sure I’m crazy about the next part, Seems odd. Better with guitar. But then it’s instrumental all the way cleverly working its way right to a really great ending. This was a huge grower for me. Still don’t love the first couple of minutes, but this song finishes strong.
7.7+8.2=15.9/2=7.95
Kwyjibo
Even Less...7.7
So this is a nice enough song. It actually grew over the listens. It has a nice and steady pace to it. It's not wicked exciting but it has some power to it. The solo at 5:20 sounds amazing. Good song.
Gravity Eyelids...7.1
Can I start this song at 3:50? And even then, just for a couple of minutes. I have to say that I did not care for this song. At all.
7.7+7.1=14.8/2=7.4
425
Trains...7.7
I love the acoustic solo at 2:15. I also love the confident drumming in the last minute. This is a really solid song that doesn’t overstay it’s welcome. It’s powerful in spots without being fake heavy. Very nice.
Luminol (SW)...8.3
I like the beginning to this. Nice audible bass, and the drumming reminds me of Stewart Copeland. Cool keyboard solo about three minutes in. The middle section is pretty nice. I like the piano solo. The ending is interesting. I like that it rocks. Solid track for sure.
7.7+8.3=16.0/2=8.0
Evermind
Heartattack In A Layby...7.8
This has a really eerie and cool opening. Nice pacing to this. Yes, it is slow and mellow, but it never dropped me. I feel like it’s missing a guitar solo. Still, it’s quite moving.
Ancestral (SW)...8.2
This electric beginning has me apprehensive. The vocal lines are excellent though. I love the Gary Moore solo at 4:02. Amazing familiarity. Instrumentally, it’s really cool till about the 8:10 mark. Not sure I’m crazy about the next part, Seems odd. Better with guitar. But then it’s instrumental all the way cleverly working its way right to a really great ending. This was a huge grower for me. Still don’t love the first couple of minutes, but this song finishes strong.
7.8+8.2=16.0/2=8.0
Kingshmegland
Time Flies...7.8
The first vocal section is nice enough. But this song goes next level with a cool acoustic part at 3:55. Eerie and moving. The keys join around 4:35 perfectly. Really like this Pink Floyd feel. It’s 4 minutes of musical bliss. The vocals return to close out the song similar to the first section. Nice outro too. I would say that at eleven and a half minutes is a bit long, but it does have nice balance, and the middle section is not rushed, so there’s that. That mid section saves this song.
Hand Cannot Erase (SW)...7.2
This reminds me of I Walk Beside You but not as good. Even Structural Disorders Architect Of The Skies. Has a Rush feel so I can see why you’d like it, but this just isn’t a song that gets me going.
7.2+7.8=15.0/2=7.5
Stadler
Men Of Wood...7.3
Stadler?? What is this?
Trains...7.7
I love the acoustic solo at 2:15. I also love the confident drumming in the last minute. This is a really solid song that doesn’t overstay it’s welcome. It’s powerful in spots without being fake heavy. Very nice.
7.3+7.7=15.0/2=7.5
LudwigVan
Anesthetize...7.9
So I like the first part a lot. Keeps a steady pace, and while it plays it safe, I’m still quite engaged. Culminating an Alex Lifeson solo that’s cool to hear. The song picks up for the Pills section. Nice hi-hat sound in the verse part of this section. The chorus is good too. I assume the Surfer section is unconsciousness. More John Paul Jones styled keyboards in this part. This last part has grown on me since the first listen. I can’t say I love it, but I think I understand it. This is a long song, but it’s generally enjoyable throughout. It never really drags until the Surfer part, but I guess they were going for that.
Normal...7.6
This is a nice song, even a bit understated. It doesn’t jump out at me and I think there’s better songs here. There’s not a lot to point to. I do like the acoustic guitar at 5:42. But overall, fairly unremarkable.
7.9+7.6=15.5/2=7.75
Elite
Dislocation Day...7.4
No sure how I feel about this song. It really doesn’t do anything.
Synesthesia...7.5
Sounds like Alex Lifeson at 1:45. And starting at 3:07, the main instrumental/guitar solo section starts and it’s pretty good. The rhythm underneath never changes throughout the whole song. It’s not a song I dislike, but I would never use this to show PT’s strength as a band.
7.4+7.5=14.9/2=7.45
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Round 7 Results!
Cyril...8.40
Professor...8.20
Lonestar...8.10
425...8.00
Evermind...8.00
Vmadera...7.95
Wolfking...7.95
Ariich...7.95
Puppies...7.95
HOF...7.95
LudwigVan...7.75
Romdrums...7.60
Buddy...7.55
Kingshmegland...7.50
Stadler...7.50
Elite...7.45
Kwyjibo...7.40
Standings!
Puppies...8.60+8.15+8.25+8.35+8.20+8.35+7.95=57.85
Cyril...7.55+8.25+7.95+8.45+8.35+8.30+8.40=57.35
Ariich...9.0+8.15+7.60+7.85+8.05+8.45+7.95=57.05
Romdrums...8.25+7.65+8.25+7.8+7.80+8.50+7.60=56.85
VMadera...8.45+7.35+7.95+8.30+8.60+8.20+7.95=56.80
Professor...8.20+7.6+7.0+8.05+8.30+8.80+8.20=56.15
LudwigVan...8.35+7.55+7.35+7.90+8.30+8.45+7.75=55.85
Wolfking...7.80+7.6+8.10+8.0+7.90+8.50+7.95=55.85
425...7.90+7.40+7.65+8.45+7.85+8.35+8.0=55.60
Kwyjibo...7.80+8.75+7.65+8.15+7.60+8.05+7.40=55.40
Kingshmegland...7.70+8.25+7.85+7.85+8.20+7.90+7.50=55.25
Buddy...7.05+8.15+7.75+8.05+8.20+8.20+7.55=54.95
Elite...7.50+7.75+7.60+7.90+7.80+8.65+7.45=54.65
Evermind...8.20+7.75+7.55+7.45+7.80+7.90+8.0=54.65
Lonestar...7.80+7.25+7.85+7.40+8.0+8.20+8.10=54.60
HOF...7.65+7.50+8.05+7.60+7.95+7.90+7.95=54.60
Stadler...8.50+7.75+7.35+7.55+7.85+7.85+7.50=54.35
Check my math!!
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Some people will tell you that Dark Matter is the best Porcupine Tree song and Luminol is the best Steven Wilson song.
Yes to the former, no to the latter
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And just a reminder!
I LIKE everything 7.5 and over. This was a generally weak round though. Very little I didn't care for.
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Well, FFS I actually should have gone with Dark Matter.
Damn.
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Well, FFS I actually should have gone with Dark Matter.
Damn.
Everyone should've gone with Dark Matter.
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And of course, the other song I thought about sending (Russia on Ice) and didn't got a good score :lol Well, I didn't expect much from this round anyways.
NOW we go to Mastodon :metal
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Trying to figure out how I outscored Stadler this round but he passed me up in the standings... maybe I was already in last place and forgot!
Nevermind, everyone below me passed me. Stadler was already ahead. Last place baby!
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Trying to figure out how I outscored Stadler this round but he passed me up in the standings... maybe I was already in last place and forgot!
I'll recheck my math.
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Trying to figure out how I outscored Stadler this round but he passed me up in the standings... maybe I was already in last place and forgot!
I'll recheck my math.
No, don't do that. I forgot it wasn't Stadler who was lower than me before.
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Trying to figure out how I outscored Stadler this round but he passed me up in the standings... maybe I was already in last place and forgot!
I'll recheck my math.
No, don't do that. I forgot it wasn't Stadler who was lower than me before.
You're right. I screwed your score up. I fixed the standings.
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Trying to figure out how I outscored Stadler this round but he passed me up in the standings... maybe I was already in last place and forgot!
I'll recheck my math.
No, don't do that. I forgot it wasn't Stadler who was lower than me before.
You're right. I screwed your score up. I fixed the standings.
Hey, sometimes demanding a recount works!
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Well, that's why I put that in the Results post. :)
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Some people will tell you that Dark Matter is the best Porcupine Tree song and Luminol is the best Steven Wilson song.
Yes to the former, no to the latter
this was a joke based on what i sent :lol there's several SW songs i like more than luminol tbh
also LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOO only person to send two 8+'s this round :2metal:
time to drop the ball on mastodon, the most mid and underwhelming band of this roulette :metardica:
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Looking ahead to the Final Round...Mastodon.
1. Initially I had their new album banned. In case anyone missed the change IT IS ALLOWED. I will tell you that I dropped the needle on it, and it didn't really get me going, but people are listing it in the top album thread so I'm obviously overlooking something.
2. Obviously it's Christmas this weekend. I will get ZERO listening in on Friday and Saturday. I know you'll all be busy too. I just ask to have everyone in by the time I get home from work on Monday. I will listen to what I have in the meantime. I've already gotten a handful of entries. Last chance to use your Wild Card™.
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My goodness there are a lot of Mastodon albums. Here goes nothing...
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Well, that was shit. :D
But I still insist, that Gravity Eyelides can't be the worst song in that round, when it's in fact the best. :metal
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Hey, I did pretty well, so that's cool! Glad you liked both songs. I wasn't expecting Trains to be the biggest hit of the round, but I wanted to send my two favorite SW songs, and I'm happy with a 7.7 on that one.
Now it's time to celebrate Christmas by learning what a Mastodon is, courtesy of wolfking (yes, I got your PM, sorry about not replying sooner).
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I'm going to LMAO if you score better than him.
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So how is it going with the write ups and scores? how many sub 7 scores are there?
I have 6 songs left to listen again/writeup.
Then I'll rank them, and then I'll score them. I have a song in mind that I will score a 7.5. That means that I like it. So the other songs scores will be rated against that one. There's nothing that will be graded under a 7. Stadler's will be There may be 2 or 3 under the 7.5, but most of them are at 7.5 or over.
Fixed, for accuracy. ;) :) :) :) :):)
Just one of them I think. ;D
I have a fairly in depth writeup on that one too.
I didn't know Men of Wood had that much depth to it. :)
I see I was right about your in-depth write up about Men of Wood.
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So how is it going with the write ups and scores? how many sub 7 scores are there?
I have 6 songs left to listen again/writeup.
Then I'll rank them, and then I'll score them. I have a song in mind that I will score a 7.5. That means that I like it. So the other songs scores will be rated against that one. There's nothing that will be graded under a 7. Stadler's will be There may be 2 or 3 under the 7.5, but most of them are at 7.5 or over.
Fixed, for accuracy. ;) :) :) :) :):)
Just one of them I think. ;D
I have a fairly in depth writeup on that one too.
I didn't know Men of Wood had that much depth to it. :)
I see I was right about your in-depth write up about Men of Wood.
It was like asking someone to give you something to eat, and they hand you some gum.
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Found a couple I liked well enough to send. Done and done.
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Can't wait to see what everyone sends, this should be a fun round for TAC :corn
I'm guessing we will see a good mix of old and new stuff.
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Emperor of sent
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Ha! I thought the scores for my two songs would have been reversed.
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Ha! I thought the scores for my two songs would have been reversed.
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Mastodon sent!
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I thought Cyril would like to know that I have listened to a total of ONE song so far and I hear Thin Lizzy in it. :lol
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i mean to be fair mastodon has a lot of overt classic rock influence :lol
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i mean to be fair mastodon has a lot of overt classic rock influence :lol
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I thought Cyril would like to know that I have listened to a total of ONE song so far and I hear Thin Lizzy in it. :lol
They do a pretty wicked cover of Emerald. Troy and I think Brent are both big Lizzy fans.
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Speaking of classic stuff, Brent has a lot of nice Schenker influences in some of his playing.
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Speaking of classic stuff, Brent has a lot of nice Schenker influences in some of his playing.
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In my limited listens, I’ve heard bits of Hendrix, Pearl Jam and Alice In Chains.
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which SW/PT song was most like thin lizzy?
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In my limited listens, I’ve heard bits of Hendrix, Pearl Jam and Alice In Chains.
I just heard one song that screams 1975 Ozzy/Sabbath.
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which SW/PT song was most like thin lizzy?
I didn't pick up any Thin Lizzy, but the solo at 4:02 of Ancestral screams Gary Moore.
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In my limited listens, I’ve heard bits of Hendrix, Pearl Jam and Alice In Chains.
I just heard one song that screams 1975 Ozzy/Sabbath.
Sabotage album hey......hmm......interesting. :justjen
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Wow, I would have scored better if I had just sent Trains and Russia On Ice. :lol
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you could've sent russia on ice and dark matter and won the round, too :corn
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Russian Matter On Dark Ice.
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Ahhh out of the cellar.
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I predict Colony of Birchmen and Blood and Thunder will be sent. :corn
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did you send them? :neverusethis:
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Both songs I sent were from the same album, and it is post CTS
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did you send them? :neverusethis:
He hasn't sent anything yet.
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puppies, i hope you send some really bad songs :corn
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puppies, i hope you send some really bad songs :corn
I know, you're sneaking up on me in the standings. I knew I should have just went with Dark Matter.... :lol
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send creature lives, i dare you
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I was initially against Russia because I thought he would not like it at all. Then I said screw it as it is my favorite song from my favorite album of theirs. Then it takes the highest score. I would never have called that. I would have totally sent Luminol but had the feeling he would hate it. Shot myself on that one. Yes, that is my favorite SW solo song.
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send creature lives, i dare you
Imagine having a bunch of people describe what Mastodon sounds like and Creature Lives ends up being the first song you hear :lol
By the way, I sent.
I also predict Hearts Alive will be sent. I almost sent it, but decided to send back to back songs from one album. Let's see if anyone can guess which songs I sent, based solely on that information :biggrin:
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By the way, if anyone sent The Motherload, I really hope Tac watches the video to it :lol
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Sent my Mastotracks.
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Sent my Mastotracks.
Did you send asstodom?
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Sent my Mastotracks.
Did you send asstodom?
I did not.
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I'm really intrigued to see the list of songs sent.
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I'm really intrigued to see the list of songs sent.
Me too! In my opinion, you can't really go wrong with anything off the first 4 albums. :metal
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I'm really intrigued to see the list of songs sent.
Me too! In my opinion, you can't really go wrong with anything off the first 4 albums. :metal
Oh look it’s the thing I didn’t do
Though I would have sent stuff from CTS if it wasn’t banned.
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if CTS wasn't banned every submission would be The Last Baron + one other song off CTS
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I'm really intrigued to see the list of songs sent.
Me too! In my opinion, you can't really go wrong with anything off the first 4 albums. :metal
First 3 are gold. Personally I wouldn't have sent anything from CTS anyway if it wasn't banned.
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My fear is the vocals. TAC already criticized the vocals on Hushed and Grim (which I think are their best) as not being very good. Seeing as the vocals on the early albums are rather harsh since Troy was still finding his way, Brent with the gargling vocals and no vocals at all from Brann, that just screamed no to me.
I would have sent the title track from Crack The Skye and something else.
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I sent two tracks
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I sent two tracks
Feeling bold, are we?
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Incredibly
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SPLIT YOUR LUNGS WITH BLOOD AND THUNDER
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SPLIT YOUR LUNGS WITH BLOOD AND THUNDER
WHEN YOU SEE THE WHITE WHALLLEEEEE
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I didn’t actually send it :lol wolfking please send Blood and Thunder and March of the Fire Ants
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SPLIT YOUR LUNGS WITH BLOOD AND THUNDER
WHEN YOU SEE THE WHITE WHALLLEEEEE
BREAK YOUR BACKS AND CRACK YOUR OARS, MEN
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I didn’t actually send it :lol wolfking please send Blood and Thunder and March of the Fire Ants
Fire Ants was a very strong consideration for me. Mother Puncher also.
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You will probably approve of what I sent :metal
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Mother Puncher?? I may send that one.
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If I participated, I would send songs from Remission in this round (that's my favorite Mastodon album so far). I'd most likely send Crusher Destroyer and Mother Puncher.
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If I participated, I would send songs from Remission in this round (that's my favorite Mastodon album so far). I'd most likely send Crusher Destroyer and Mother Puncher.
God damn, Remission is so good. :metal The first time I heard the opening riff of Crusher Destroyer I was blown away.
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Cool!
I don't even want to roll dice for this, I'll pick something based solely on the track titles this evening.
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Remission is indeed amazing but I didn't send anything from it. Tim has had a hard enough time with the vocals so not sure how Remission style would sit. Could be the total opposite though since they are more brutal then their later stuff.
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Exactly why I didn’t send anything from Remission either
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Cool!
I don't even want to roll dice for this, I'll pick something based solely on the track titles this evening.
:lol
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i didn't pick anything from remission because i've never listened to it
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Just sent!
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Sent!
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Merry Christmas to The TAC DTF Faves roulette!
I have 13 of the 17 participants in. No rush, please by Monday afternoon.
I have eliminated FOUR Wild Cards™ and the playlist stands at 20 songs 1h36m.
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So, just a few first impressions after listening to about 12-15 tracks.
This is easily the worst band in this roulette.
I put them last on purpose to go out with a bang. That ain't fucking happening. Maybe I'll have an epiphany.
I feel like the guitarist is copying Michael Schenker, but playing it extra sloppy so the teacher doesn't think he's cheating.
The drumming is good. The vocals absolutely blow.
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My 2nd song is getting a six. :lol
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This is easily the worst band in this roulette.
I put them last on purpose to go out with a bang. That ain't fucking happening. Maybe I'll have an epiphany.
i don't know enough about neal morse to confirm this but yeah mastodon are by far my least favorite of the acts here i do know :rollin
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My 2nd song is getting a six. :lol
That high? :corn
This is easily the worst band in this roulette.
I put them last on purpose to go out with a bang. That ain't fucking happening. Maybe I'll have an epiphany.
i don't know enough about neal morse to confirm this but yeah mastodon are by far my least favorite of the acts here i do know :rollin
I seriously don't know what they do.
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So, just a few first impressions after listening to about 12-15 tracks.
This is easily the worst band in this roulette.
I put them last on purpose to go out with a bang. That ain't fucking happening. Maybe I'll have an epiphany.
I feel like the guitarist is copying Michael Schenker, but playing it extra sloppy so the teacher doesn't think he's cheating.
The drumming is good. The vocals absolutely blow.
And on that terrible disappointment, everyone loses The TAC Roulette V.5.... :biggrin:
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So, just a few first impressions after listening to about 12-15 tracks.
This is easily the worst band in this roulette.
I put them last on purpose to go out with a bang. That ain't fucking happening. Maybe I'll have an epiphany.
I feel like the guitarist is copying Michael Schenker, but playing it extra sloppy so the teacher doesn't think he's cheating.
The drumming is good. The vocals absolutely blow.
And on that terrible disappointment, everyone loses The TAC Roulette V.5.... :biggrin:
You could not send anything this round and still win this roulette. :lol
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Mastodon’s one of those bands that is consistently good / decent for me, but none of their songs or albums have quite passed over the threshold to “amazing”. I really wish they explored their proggier side more as CTS and the Cold Dark Place EP are easily my favorite releases by them.
I probably would have been better off something from that EP… whatever, not like I have a >0% chance of winning. :lol
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This is easily the worst band in this roulette.
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This is easily the worst band in this roulette.
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Yeah, that's me looking at Spotify right now.
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I relistened to one of the songs after I sent it and thought, “yeah, this is kind of lame.” Singer (there may be more than one) kind of reminds me of Ozzy Osborne at times. Also a little Pantera-ish vocally at times maybe? Or like Rob Zombie. Gruff guy metal voice.
I do really like the drumming though.
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I relistened to one of the songs after I sent it and thought, “yeah, this is kind of lame.” Singer (there may be more than one) kind of reminds me of Ozzy Osborne at times. Also a little Pantera-ish vocally at times maybe? Or like Rob Zombie. Gruff guy metal voice.
I do really like the drumming though.
Brann Dailor is one of the most underrated drummers out there, and not just in metal. The guy can play anything and he has.
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You feel he's underrated. I thought he's fairly rated. Mastodon is known for their great drummer.
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Also if you want your Thin Lizzy connection for Mastodon, Troy Sanders (Mastodon's bassist), currently plays bass for Thin Lizzy on tours.
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Also if you want your Thin Lizzy connection for Mastodon....
Do you guys see now??
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:lol
i hope my songs are among the ones you hate the least
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:lol
i hope my songs are among the ones you hate the least
I all ready know he hates one of my songs :lol
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Outplayed, boring: Five degrees of Kevin Bacon
Innovative, fun: Five degrees of Thin Lizzy
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Just waiting for..
425
Professor
Stadler
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Just waiting for..
425
Professor
Stadler
I sent on the 23rd. Did it not go through?
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You feel he's underrated. I thought he's fairly rated. Mastodon is known for their great drummer.
And I always feel, that as good as he is, he's seriously overplaying. Less would be more, imo.
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You feel he's underrated. I thought he's fairly rated. Mastodon is known for their great drummer.
And I always feel, that as good as he is, he's seriously overplaying. Less would be more, imo.
I think he has been better about overplaying in the last 4 albums or so. This song (banned in this round) has some of my favorite drumming from him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBqyOZdabJA
The part at at 3:19 :metal
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I sent on the 23rd. Did it not go through?
I got it! :blush
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Hoping that one of you gents sent him Bladecatcher or even Aunt Lisa. :lol
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Hoping that one of you gents sent him Bladecatcher or even Aunt Lisa. :lol
I thought about Aunt Lisa, just the ending itself is worth a listen. Ultimately I chose 2 other songs from the same album, though.
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Hoping that one of you gents sent him Bladecatcher or even Aunt Lisa. :lol
Well, I'm still waiting on Stadler. I'm sure he could use some help in this round.
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So, just a few first impressions after listening to about 12-15 tracks.
This is easily the worst band in this roulette.
I put them last on purpose to go out with a bang. That ain't fucking happening. Maybe I'll have an epiphany.
I feel like the guitarist is copying Michael Schenker, but playing it extra sloppy so the teacher doesn't think he's cheating.
The drumming is good. The vocals absolutely blow.
Holy fucking shit! I'm not sure if we can be friends any more.
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So, just a few first impressions after listening to about 12-15 tracks.
This is easily the worst band in this roulette.
I put them last on purpose to go out with a bang. That ain't fucking happening. Maybe I'll have an epiphany.
I feel like the guitarist is copying Michael Schenker, but playing it extra sloppy so the teacher doesn't think he's cheating.
The drumming is good. The vocals absolutely blow.
Holy fucking shit! I'm not sure if we can be friends any more.
I thought the same thing when I read that, Kade. Then I remembered, I'm not friends with him now. :biggrin:
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WOW!
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Hoping that one of you gents sent him Bladecatcher or even Aunt Lisa. :lol
Well, I'm still waiting on Stadler. I'm sure he could use some help in this round.
creature lives and bladecatcher there ya go
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Bladecatcher is an instrumental though
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it has those weird demonic vocals in one bit tho :neverusethis:
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WOW!
While I'm obviously joking, I'm as shocked as you are to my thoughts on the new DT. Maybe Mastodon being last you're getting a little tired and burnt out? Or I'm clutching, that's probably more like it. Saying that, I find that difficult to digest when Haken was included and Neal Morse to a lesser degree, but you've always been upfront about these guys so I shouldn't be too surprised I guess.
I'm even more intrigued now to see the playlist now.
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I remember picking up Leviathan from the cd store on a whim based on some small samples and the hype behind the album at the time. It was like nothing I'd ever heard before. Everything about it blew me away. I was mad for guitar solos at that time but I've never felt once that the album needed them. I guess I just have a real connection with these guys. Nostalgia obviously plays a part when discovering and checking bands others love.
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I'm listening to one of my tracks right now for the first time and man do I want to turn it off :lol
It's from Leviathan too :rollin
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I have never been able to get into Leviathan aside from Blood And Thunder and Hearts Alive. The songwriting on the rest just isn’t there for me.
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Of the bands in this roulette, I'm already a fan of Opeth, PT/SW, C&C and SB/NM, owning 95% of these bands' collective studio discography.
Of the other four, I only own 1 or 2 albums of each and wouldn't consider myself a fan (least of all BTBAM), but after this roulette, I'd say Mastodon is the only one I'd be willing to take a deeper dive on. Still not completely convinced though.
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With Mastodon, I gravitate more towards their recent releases (Mainly Crack the Skye and onward). But those first 3 albums are just special, in their own wacky way.
First song I heard from them was Sleeping Giant around 2007, and that song is still one of my favorites.
Did Stadler send his songs yet? :corn
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Did Stadler send his songs yet? :corn
Not yet. I just PM'd him. I'll list the tracks this evening. I didn't get any listening in yesterday because I was sick, but I'll be running through the songs again today.
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Crack The Skye is really good, and if it had better production I would call it great. The Hunter is good. Blood Mountain and Once More Round The Sun I've tried but they did nothing for me.
So I'm curious what you guys sent and think are songs worthy to hear. I plan on listening to them and see if they convince me to give Mastodon another chance.
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Here's the list!
Romdrums
Chimes At Midnight
Steambreather
Cyril
Colony Of Birchmen
Capillarian Crest
Buddy
Black Tongue
Halloween
Vmadera
Chimes At Midnight
Ember City
HOF
High Road
Ember City
Kwyjibo
Black Tongue
Creature Lives
Wolfking
Crystal Skull
The Motherload
Elite
Capillarian Crest
Megalodon
LudwigVan
Crystal Skull
The Hunter
Kingshmegland
Jaguar God
Pushing The Tides
Evermind
Naked Burn
Octopus Has No Friends
Ariich
Roots Remain
Gigantium
Lonestar
Stargasm
Roots Remain
Puppies
Sleeping Giant
Capillarian Crest
Professor
Fallen Torches
Roots Remain
425
The Motherload
Ember City
Stadler
Steambreather
Jaguar God
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6MWvbqmA0lycpxl7oQOdfC?si=38b9badc68454485
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Some questionable submissions, but overall pretty good setlist.
I had a feeling my two songs would be submitted by others
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Some questionable submissions
:corn
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Nobody sent Blood And Thunder.
We fucked up. :lol
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I don’t know how I manage to keep sending duplicates for artists I know almost nothing by compared to everyone else. I almost sent The Motherload too.
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how am i the only one to send Colony of Birchmen & how screwed am I? :corn
also puppies basically wins by default at this point because I don't see Colony of Birchmen scoring 0.6+ higher than sleeping giant lol
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Overall, that's an awful list. A lot of bizarre choices.
Funny I played my wildcard and my fav Mastodon song is the one that gets cut. I picked it would have been though.
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Funny I played my wildcard and my fav Mastodon song is the one that gets cut. I picked it would have been though.
what was it :corn
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Funny I played my wildcard and my fav Mastodon song is the one that gets cut. I picked it would have been though.
what was it :corn
Iron Tusk.
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Nobody sent Blood And Thunder.
We fucked up. :lol
Really surprised about this, seeing as it seems to be their most popular song. Perhaps everyone thought "someone else is going to send this, so I'll send something else"?
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Overall, that's an awful list. A lot of bizarre choices.
Funny I played my wildcard and my fav Mastodon song is the one that gets cut. I picked it would have been though.
I honestly could have sent almost anything from the first 3 albums, they are that good. Everything after Crack the Skye, at least for me, is fairly bland.
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Nobody sent Blood And Thunder.
We fucked up. :lol
Really surprised about this, seeing as it seems to be their most popular song. Perhaps everyone thought "someone else is going to send this, so I'll send something else"?
I just think they have a lot of better songs honestly.
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I don’t know how I manage to keep sending duplicates for artists I know almost nothing by compared to everyone else. I almost sent The Motherload too.
I mean, one of the people who sent both Ember City and The Motherload was me, and I also know nothing about this band.
I think Sleeping Giant will win because TAC likes AVFtTotW.
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I don’t know how I manage to keep sending duplicates for artists I know almost nothing by compared to everyone else. I almost sent The Motherload too.
I mean, one of the people who sent both Ember City and The Motherload was me, and I also know nothing about this band.
I think Sleeping Giant will win because TAC likes AVFtTotW.
I expected it with Haken (1984) and PT (Sound of Muzak) as I knew those were popular songs, but had no idea with Opeth (Windowpane) and really no idea with Mastodon. I think one of my Devin Townsend ones was a duplicate as well.
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I don’t know how I manage to keep sending duplicates for artists I know almost nothing by compared to everyone else. I almost sent The Motherload too.
I mean, one of the people who sent both Ember City and The Motherload was me, and I also know nothing about this band.
I think Sleeping Giant will win because TAC likes AVFtTotW.
I expected it with Haken (1984) and PT (Sound of Muzak) as I knew those were popular songs, but had no idea with Opeth (Windowpane) and really no idea with Mastodon. I think one of my Devin Townsend ones was a duplicate as well.
I think you missed the joke.
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Nobody sent Blood And Thunder.
We fucked up. :lol
Really surprised about this, seeing as it seems to be their most popular song. Perhaps everyone thought "someone else is going to send this, so I'll send something else"?
This was me, and I prefer Megalodon from that album. Barely anything from Leviathan and nothing from Remission kind of surprises me.
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Nobody sent Blood And Thunder.
We fucked up. :lol
Really surprised about this, seeing as it seems to be their most popular song. Perhaps everyone thought "someone else is going to send this, so I'll send something else"?
This was me, and I prefer Megalodon from that album. Barely anything from Leviathan and nothing from Remission kind of surprises me.
As I said I went Iron Tusk over everything else yet it missed out.
Really don't see Tim liking anything from Remission.
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One song I never really got the hype for was Chimes at Midnight. One of the weakest on the album IMO.
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One song I never really got the hype for was Chimes at Midnight. One of the weakest on the album IMO.
To me, Chimes at Midnight is one of the better tracks on that album. It's energetic and straight forward, yet enjoyable without trying to do too much :metal
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I think you missed the joke.
I got it. :lol
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I think you missed the joke.
I got it. :lol
I got it looking back, but wasn’t really what I was talking about.
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One song I never really got the hype for was Chimes at Midnight. One of the weakest on the album IMO.
ALL MY HEROES...THEY'RE ALL DEAD
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One song I never really got the hype for was Chimes at Midnight. One of the weakest on the album IMO.
ALL MY HEROES...THEY'RE ALL DEAD
:2metal:
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I think you missed the joke.
I got it. :lol
I got it looking back, but wasn’t really what I was talking about.
Yeah, my post had two parts and I took you to be responding to the first part, not the joke.
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Oh, I thought the first part was the joke. ;D
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I'm assuming Tim is in the hospital with ear issues from this round and why he hasn't responded in a day. :lol
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He decided to watch all the music videos and hasn't recovered yet.
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I'm assuming Tim is in the hospital with ear issues from this round and why he hasn't responded in a day. :lol
Hah!
I actually have 5 writeups done. Results are running behind though as I got some sort of stomach bug this week. Been feeling shitty all week. Going to bed at 7:30 probably again tonight.
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I'm assuming Tim is in the hospital with ear issues from this round and why he hasn't responded in a day. :lol
Hah!
I actually have 5 writeups done. Results are running behind though as I got some sort of stomach bug this week. Been feeling shitty all week. Going to bed at 7:30 probably again tonight.
I feel ya. Just getting over a virus that I still cough and hear junk in my chest still.
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I'm assuming Tim is in the hospital with ear issues from this round and why he hasn't responded in a day. :lol
Hah!
I actually have 5 writeups done. Results are running behind though as I got some sort of stomach bug this week. Been feeling shitty all week. Going to bed at 7:30 probably again tonight.
I feel ya. Just getting over a virus that I still cough and hear junk in my chest still.
Sounds like Covid.
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The test taken said negative. Not the home test either. It was another type of virus. When it normally happens (I have no spleen) I end up getting bronchitis.
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The test taken said negative. Not the home test either. It was another type of virus. When it normally happens (I have no spleen) I end up getting bronchitis.
Oh, OK. I just had pain in my stomach. No other symptoms. No nausea. God knows I tried too. lol. Was tough trying to sleep. I even missed a day and a half of work. That's fucked by itself.
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I should have taken a day or two off but didn't. Just stayed masked in my office. I still feel the chest congestion.
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So Results will be sometime next year. ;D
Er..make that tomorrow. I’ve heard everything 4-5 times. Thank God it was a short playlist. Literally half of some of the others. The write ups are not extremely in depth for the most part but a few sentences. The usual I guess. I’ve been laid up a bit this week so that put me behind a couple of days.
I have my Results Posts formatted. I just need to give to finish the final ranking, give the songs scores, and update the standings.
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Congrats ariich! :metal
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Congrats ariich! :metal
So, without assigning scores, I feel like this was Puppies' worst round. Did you two in striking distance do enough?
:corn
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i mean me and puppies share half our fate so, yes, i don't think i bested him here :rollin
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I've got a bad feeling about this...
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So, just remember my scoring system.
8.5+...I love!
8.0-8.4...I really like
7.5-7.9...I like
Below 7.5...Ugh
There were 5 songs over 8.0 and 4 songs below 7.5. That means everything was bunched up in the 7.5-8.0 range, not unlike most rounds.
I really found something to like in pretty much every song, with a handful that really stood out.
I have a few thoughts on Mastodon...
One of the vocalists..the Cobain Guy, is AWFUL. I mean, he's almost unlistenable for me. There's no personality. I make a couple comparisons to Nirvana in my reviews, but this guy is not in Cobain's league vocally.
The other vocalist..the Ozzy Guy, is so much better. He's memorable because he really reminds me of early Ozzy Era Sabbath. Those particular songs benefitted.
It's not that the drummer overplays...it's more that the band simply doesn't keep up with him. He's the only musician in the band I cared to listen too. Other than the bass player. I found the guitars pretty boring on the whole. They imitated Schenker and Iommi in spots but other than that, they did nothing for me.
I found a lot of the songwriting pretty terrible. Either they didn't know how to end a song, or they'd have a 1 minute + intro for a 4 minute song. In a few tracks, the song would be halfway through before it actually mattered.
I ain't gonna lie. This was my least favorite round. The scores will resemble the other rounds on the whole, but in reality, the whole playlist could be downgraded by 2-3 points total. That said, everyone is graded relative to each other so it doesn't really matter anyway. I just wanted to get that off my chest. ;D
Finally, I wanted to thank everyone for playing. I was ready to run a roulette, but I like to have some sort of concept behind it, as most of you know. I realize that this was an odd one, but I really enjoyed it, and these playlists are roadmaps to these artists that I can travel on. I know in a number of rounds, some of you were winging it, but that's OK. I think Evermind was winging it in every round. :lol *Spoiler Alert* Evermind came in last, so there's that. :lol
As long as we had some yuks along the way, it's all good. I appreciate the wide range of tastes here. I got something excellent from everyone here along the way.
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Round 8 Results!!
Romdrums
Chimes At Midnight...7.9
Cool intro. I like the chorus and the part from 2:42-2:56. I like how the drums blend into the musical lines. The intro returns as the outro. I like that. The verses hold this back a bit.
Steambreather...8.0
Enjoyable enough verse. What’s this? A melodic chorus? There’s a brief guitar line right before the chorus. Reminds me of 80’s Rush…right before the chorus of Between The Wheels or something. This has a cool pace.
7.9+8.0=15.9/2=7.95
Cyril
Colony Of Birchmen...7.4
These vocals are awful. I don’t know what else to say. There’s no musicality to this. This sounds like a bunch of teenagers in their parents’ basement. Such rudimentary riffing. The last minute is pretty decent but sounds like no more than a bad Sabbath cover band.
Capillarian Crest...7.8
The first minute reminds me of mid 80’s crossover punk/metal. The next minute and a half fucking rocks. Cool part at 2:59. I like the uptempo ending, but I’m seriously getting a snare drum overdose.
7.4+7.8=15.2/2=7.60
Buddy
Black Tongue...7.7
This is a quick and satisfying little rocker. Don’t love the vocals. Solo is cool. Love the harmony coming out of the solo at 2:28. Not nearly enough of this kind of thing in this playlist. I like the interesting rhythm that’s played in this too. Cool song.
Halloween...8.4
I liked this on first listen. The verse & chorus move along quite nicely, with good pace. The chorus has the Ozzy styled voice on it. The instrumental section/solo is excellent.
7.7+8.4=16.1/2=8.05
Vmadera
Chimes At Midnight...7.9
Cool intro. I like the chorus and the part from 2:42-2:56. I like how the drums blend into the musical lines. The intro returns as the outro. I like that. The verses hold this back a bit.
Ember City...8.5
This song gives me Thin Lizzy vibes in the leadup to the verse. I like the nice melodic chorus. Right at 2:59, I hear Thin Lizzy’s Massacre. I love that there’s a second solo section. Sounds like Gorham/Robertson in the outro to me!
7.9+8.5=16.4/2=8.20
HOF
High Road...8.0
Wicked Ozzy vibe in the chorus. Great guitar line at 2:51. While I don’t have a ton to say about this, I really liked this song.
Ember City...8.5
This song gives me Thin Lizzy vibes in the leadup to the verse. I like the nice melodic chorus. Right at 2:59, I hear Thin Lizzy’s Massacre. I love that there’s a second solo section. Sounds like Gorham/Robertson in the outro to me!
8.0+8.5=16.5/2=8.25
Kwyjibo
Black Tongue...7.7
This is a quick and satisfying little rocker. Don’t love the vocals. Solo is cool. Love the harmony coming out of the solo at 2:28. Not nearly enough of this kind of thing in this playlist. I like the interesting rhythm that’s played in this too. Cool song.
Creature Lives...7.4
That’s quite an intro. 25% of the song? This song was almost uncomfortable to listen to. Seems like a B-side, with its goofy lyrics. That’s a nice solo at 2:52 though.
7.7+7.4=15.1/2=7.55
Wolfking
Crystal Skull...7.8
Don’t love the vocals to the vocal lines, but damn, that’s some great music underneath. Cool lick at 1:22. At 2:30, it feels like Geezer Butler is teeing up the solo which is half Iommi half Schenker.
The Motherload...8.5
Loved this song right out of the gate. Has such an Ozzy vibe to it in the verse, but especially the chorus. And that chorus might be the most memorable line in the playlist. Mid 70’s Ozzy! The instrumental section is really interesting. Listening to both guitars…do I hear 70’s Rush in my left? Nice harmony coming out too.
7.8+8.5=16.3/2=8.15
Elite
Capillarian Crest...7.8
The first minute reminds me of mid 80’s crossover punk/metal. The next minute and a half fucking rocks. Cool part at 2:59. I like the uptempo ending, but I’m seriously getting a snare drum overdose.
Megalodon...8.2
Frantic opening, reminds me of something like S.O.D. Then BAM at 1:26. What a great freaking part! Reminds me of when Welcome Home (Sanitarium) kicks in, but faster. Nice clear double kick. Another ode to Metallica at 3:01. Cool song.
7.8+8.2=16/2=8.00
LudwigVan
Crystal Skull...7.8
Don’t love the vocals to the vocal lines, but damn, that’s some great music underneath. Cool lick at 1:22. At 2:30, it feels like Geezer Butler is teeing up the solo which is half Iommi half Schenker.
The Hunter...7.5
Oof, these vocals in the verse are horrible. Was the guy taking a shit while recording? I do like the gloomy beat of this. It’s a bit different than most of the songs here. The second solo from about the 3:40 mark on has an Iommi-ish feel to it.
7.8+7.5=15.3/2=7.65
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Kingshmegland
Jaguar God...8.0
The first half of this song is a tad uneventful. I like the second part a bit more than the first. At 4:38, things really get interesting. The step down at 6:27 is a nice touch. Has kind of a Schenker feel towards the end though.
Pushing The Tides...8.0
Energetic number here. The first minute or so brings a frantic verse with some great drum rhythms. This definitely rocks. Not sure where this is supposed to take me though. Just kind of goes limp.
8.0+8.0=16.0/2=8.0
Evermind
Naked Burn...7.5
Cool little energetic song with some great drumming. Don’t really have much to say about it.
Octopus Has No Friends...7.5
This song has a Nirvana feel to me. At least vocally. Kind of mundane verses. The music is almost too busy for this. The lyrics are soothing, but the music is anything but. Strange song.
7.5+7.5=15.0/2=7.50
Ariich
Roots Remain...8.2
Pretty aggressive verse..don’t love this guys voice at all. But the Ozzy guy comes in with a nice chorus. The part at 3:24 is really cool. Gets eerie at 4:27, but it is interesting at least. Real nice solo. The second half of this song is excellent, much better than the first half. Still, a good song.
Gigantium...8.0
The first half of this song is really sludgey to get through. Kind of Devin Townsend-ish. A bit of U2ish effects in the guitar that stands out. The song really brightens at 3:26. That Schenker solo at 5:08 hits me right in the nads. Was a grower.
8.2+8.0=16.2/2=8.10
Lonestar
Stargasm...7.5
This has a cool intro. 25% of the song though? Don’t care for the verses really, but the Ozzy chorus is cool. There does seem to be some jamming going on under the verse though. Did I miss the solo?
Roots Remain...8.0
Pretty aggressive verse..don’t love this guys voice at all. But the Ozzy guy comes in with a nice chorus. The part at 3:24 is really cool. Gets eerie at 4:27, but it is interesting at least. Real nice solo. The second half of this song is excellent, much better than the first half. Still, a good song.
7.5+8.0=15.5/2=7.75
Puppies
Sleeping Giant...7.4
That’s in interesting intro. I can’t quite place it. Some God awful vocals though. I do like the part at 4:22 when it changes up a bit before the solo. Can’t say I’m a huge fan of this.
Capillarian Crest...7.8
The first minute reminds me of mid 80’s crossover punk/metal. The next minute and a half fucking rocks. Cool part at 2:59. I like the uptempo ending, but I’m seriously getting a snare drum overdose.
7.4+7.8=15.2/2=7.60
Professor
Fallen Torches...7.3
I think I’d rather just listen to Nirvana.
Roots Remain...8.0
Pretty aggressive verse..don’t love this guys voice at all. But the Ozzy guy comes in with a nice chorus. The part at 3:24 is really cool. Gets eerie at 4:27, but it is interesting at least. Real nice solo. The second half of this song is excellent, much better than the first half. Still, a good song.
7.3+8.0=15.3/2=7.65
425
The Motherload...8.5
Loved this song right out of the gate. Has such an Ozzy vibe to it in the verse, but especially the chorus. And that chorus might be the most memorable line in the playlist. Mid 70’s Ozzy! The instrumental section is really interesting. Listening to both guitars…do I hear 70’s Rush in my left? Nice harmony coming out too.
Ember City...8.5
This song gives me Thin Lizzy vibes in the leadup to the verse. I like the nice melodic chorus. Right at 2:59, I hear Thin Lizzy’s Massacre. I love that there’s a second solo section. Sounds like Gorham/Robertson in the outro to me!
8.5+8.5=17.0/2=8.50
Stadler
Steambreather...8.0
Enjoyable enough verse. What’s this? A melodic chorus? There’s a brief guitar line right before the chorus. Reminds me of 80’s Rush…right before the chorus of Between The Wheels or something. This has a cool pace.
Jaguar God...8.0
The first half of this song is a tad uneventful. I like the second part a bit more than the first. At 4:38, things really get interesting. The step down at 6:27 is a nice touch. Has kind of a Schenker feel towards the end though.
8.0+8.0=16.0/2=8.00
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Round 8 Standings!!
425...8.50
HOF...8.25
Vmadera...8.20
Wolfking...8.15
Ariich...8.10
Buddy...8.05
Elite...8.00
Stadler...8.00
Kindshmegland...8.00
Romdrums....7.95
Lonestar...7.75
LudwigVan...7.65
Professor...7.65
Cyril...7.60
Puppies...7.60
Kwyjibo...7.55
Evermind...7.50
Final Standings!!!
Puppies...8.60+8.15+8.25+8.35+8.20+8.35+7.95+7.60=65.45
Ariich...9.0+8.15+7.60+7.85+8.05+8.45+7.95+8.10=65.15
VMadera...8.45+7.35+7.95+8.30+8.60+8.20+7.95+8.20=65.00
Cyril...7.55+8.25+7.95+8.45+8.35+8.30+8.40+7.60=64.95
Romdrums...8.25+7.65+8.25+7.8+7.80+8.50+7.60+7.95=64.80
425...7.90+7.40+7.65+8.45+7.85+8.35+8.0+8.50=64.10
Wolfking...7.80+7.6+8.10+8.0+7.90+8.50+7.95+8.15=64.00
Professor...8.20+7.6+7.0+8.05+8.30+8.80+8.20+7.65=63.80
LudwigVan...8.35+7.55+7.35+7.90+8.30+8.45+7.75+7.65=63.50
Kingshmegland...7.70+8.25+7.85+7.85+8.20+7.90+7.50+8.00=63.25
Buddy...7.05+8.15+7.75+8.05+8.20+8.20+7.55+8.05=63.00
Kwyjibo...7.80+8.75+7.65+8.15+7.60+8.05+7.40+7.55=62.95
HOF...7.65+7.50+8.05+7.60+7.95+7.90+7.95+8.25=62.85
Elite...7.50+7.75+7.60+7.90+7.80+8.65+7.45+8.00=62.65
Lonestar...7.80+7.25+7.85+7.40+8.0+8.20+8.10+7.75=62.35
Stadler...8.50+7.75+7.35+7.55+7.85+7.85+7.50+8.00=62.35
Evermind...8.20+7.75+7.55+7.45+7.80+7.90+8.0+7.50=62.15
Feel free to check my math!!
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Congrats Chris! You were the most consistent, never letting up. Until the last round ;D
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I'll take 3rd place for my first roulette :metal
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I'll take 3rd place for my first roulette :metal
Very impressed, brother. Nice job.
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Now go watch the music video to The Motherload and make sure no kids are around lol
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14th place!! :metal :metal
And my song won the Opeth round. I did my part. Glad to have played, thanks for running this!!
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Now go watch the music video to The Motherload and make sure no kids are around lol
That is some serious slo-mo! :lol
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Thanks for having me once again Tim.
With Mastodon though, there's actually 3 vocalists in total, but not that you really give a shit now anyway. :lol
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With Mastodon though, there's actually 3 vocalists in total, but not that you really give a shit now anyway. :lol
:lol
Well, he sucks too! :lol
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Thanks Tim. Always love your roulettes.
Puppies, congratulations!!
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Thanks Joe. I'm glad you were part of it.
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Awesome, not last! I’m pretty sure I did the best in the rounds where I didn’t know the artist at all. This was a fun exercise that forced me to listen to some bands I ordinarily wouldn’t. I may not be buying any Mastadon or Coheed albums any time soon, but I was able to find things in them that I enjoyed. I think BTBAM is the only band here who I probably will never ever listen to again.
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I’m pretty sure I did the best in the rounds where I didn’t know the artist at all.
:lol
That's beautiful.
This was a fun exercise that forced me to listen to some bands I ordinarily wouldn’t.
Yes it was. Glad you listened along and were part of my roulette.
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With Mastodon though, there's actually 3 vocalists in total, but not that you really give a shit now anyway. :lol
:lol
Well, he sucks too! :lol
:lol I walked right into that one.
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But in all seriousness, this was a fun roulette! Thanks for running this! Now for my victory dance...
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Well done mate. A nice challenging roulette to win. :tup
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And I almost threw it all away in the last round. Ariich brought the heat! :flame:
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And I almost threw it all away in the last round. Ariich brought the heat! :flame:
You almost had your fatal round in the last round. That would've hurt for sure. :lol
Lucky for you, Cyril tanked too.
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sorry that mastodon are a very mid band at best :lol
it seems like you had a bias towards their more recent stuff as far as i can tell, of which i have listened to exactly none of, the last mastodon album i bought was the hunter back in 2011 and i didn't even like that one much :lol
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Cyril, thanks for playing. I appreciate it.
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sorry that mastodon are a very mid band at best :lol
it seems like you had a bias towards their more recent stuff as far as i can tell, of which i have listened to exactly none of, the last mastodon album i bought was the hunter back in 2011 and i didn't even like that one much :lol
Yeah, The Hunter is where I got off the Mastodon train. Everything after Crack the Skye was just downhill.
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Cyril, thanks for playing. I appreciate it.
the highlight of this has to be me winning the round & getting my best score of the roulette with the only artist here i don't listen to :rollin
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Cyril, thanks for playing. I appreciate it.
the highlight of this has to be me winning the round & getting my best score of the roulette with the only artist here i don't listen to :rollin
:lol
It's a beautiful thing.
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Nice one... Glad not to finish in the cellar.
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Oh hey, Halloween did better than I thought! With your comments about the solos and the vocals I thought that would tank. :lol Really cool song, probably their most underrated.
This was a really fun roulette - some really questionable scores, but the discussions about the respective artists each round, and all the contestants coming together to shit on Tim's tastes really made up for it. :lol (it's all love)
Thanks for having me! Keep us updated on your dives into some of these artists!
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Oh hey, Halloween did better than I thought! With your comments about the solos and the vocals I thought that would tank. :lol Really cool song, probably their most underrated.
This was a really fun roulette - some really questionable scores, but the discussions about the respective artists each round, and all the contestants coming together to shit on Tim's tastes really made up for it. :lol (it's all love)
Thanks for having me! Keep us updated on your dives into some of these artists!
I gained new appreciation for Halloween with the released of the instrumental version on Medium Rarities. Some really great guitar work going on there :metal
I almost sent Fallen Torches but glad I didn't, given the score it got :lol
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Congrats to puppies and thanks to Tim for running this and letting me participate. It was a lot of good fun and I plan to listen to the playlists for the artists I don't know that well (BTBAM, C&C, Mastodon) too see if there's anything worth checking out.
And a happy New Year to everyone.
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Congrats to puppies and thanks to Tim for running this and letting me participate. It was a lot of good fun and I plan to listen to the playlists for the artists I don't know that well (BTBAM, C&C, Mastodon) too see if there's anything worth checking out.
And a happy New Year to everyone.
Thanks for playing Harry!
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Congrats Puppies!!
Stoked to see I finished in the top 5, and that you enjoyed nearly everything I sent, TAC. Thanks for having me!
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Glad to have you, Aaron. Nice job too!
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Been trying to decipher who he thinks is who on vocals. I'm pretty sure he has Brann, the drummer, down as his Ozzy. I'm confused by the Nirvana reference. That's either Troy or Brent or both. :lol
Of course, he threw a Nirvana reference on Fallen Torches and that has the usual guest spot from Scott Kelly on vocals.
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Who's Scott Kelly?
Yeah, the drummer is the Ozzy Guy. I saw that in the Motherload video.
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Lead singer of the band Neurosis. Mastodon have used him quite a bit in guest spots.
Leviathan (on the track "Aqua Dementia") (2004)
Blood Mountain (on the track "Crystal Skull") (2006)
Crack the Skye (on the track "Crack the Skye") (2009)
The Hunter (on the track "Spectrelight") (2011)
Once More 'Round the Sun (on the track "Diamond in the Witch House") (2014)
Emperor of Sand (on the track "Scorpion Breath") (2017)
Medium Rarities (on the track "Fallen Torches") (2020)
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Oh, ok. Got it.
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Oh, ok. Got it.
Of course, I will be brutally honest, I never can tell where he is the vocalist. Pretty sure I confuse him with Troy. Brann and Brent are easy to pick out. Troy can sing so many different ways now, I struggle to differentiate him from Scott.
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Came in smack dab in the the middle of the pack. This was fun.
TAC can you rank the bands from top to bottom? Would that simply be based on the cumulative score for each band?
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Came in smack dab in the the middle of the pack. This was fun.
So glad you played, Gord!!
TAC can you rank the bands from top to bottom? Would that simply be based on the cumulative score for each band?
I'll work on that tonight.
Off the top of my head, Devin Townsend and Opeth were the two best.
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Tim, so are you going to explore any of these bands more?
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TAC can you rank the bands from top to bottom? Would that simply be based on the cumulative score for each band?
So by score, here's the list..
Opeth...8.27
C&C:8.0
Devin Townsend:8.0
Neal Morse:7.95
Mastodon: 7.9
Porcupine Tree:7.84
Haken:7.8
BTBAM:7.75
I admitted to scoring Mastodon a little high. I feel like I enjoyed the PT and Haken playlists more.
Tim, so are you going to explore any of these bands more?
Funny you should ask..
Today, I added a MAYH through Watershed to my iPod, as well as a bunch of Devin Townsend albums.
I definitely want to poke around some of the Neal Morse stuff as well as some C&C.
I would also like to give Colors II a legit run through.
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Cyril, thanks for playing. I appreciate it.
the highlight of this has to be me winning the round & getting my best score of the roulette with the only artist here i don't listen to :rollin
Cyril and I are two sides of the same coin. :lol
I've been off of DTF over the weekend, so I'm just seeing these results. Wild as hell that I won the Mastodon round with my sophisticated strategy of "send the ones with the clean vocals." Tip of the hat to wolfking who sent me the ones with the clean vocals in the first place, among several other ones.
Congratulations to Puppies on a hard-fought victory! And thanks to TAC for running the roulette. I found the concept interesting and very fun to participate in, even in the rounds where I didn't know the artist. Glad to hear that you're planning to explore NM and C&C! :tup Opeth is cool too, but those are two artists I love.
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Cyril, thanks for playing. I appreciate it.
the highlight of this has to be me winning the round & getting my best score of the roulette with the only artist here i don't listen to :rollin
Cyril and I are two sides of the same coin. :lol
I've been off of DTF over the weekend, so I'm just seeing these results. Wild as hell that I won the Mastodon round with my sophisticated strategy of "send the ones with the clean vocals." Tip of the hat to wolfking who sent me the ones with the clean vocals in the first place, among several other ones.
Congratulations to Puppies on a hard-fought victory! And thanks to TAC for running the roulette. I found the concept interesting and very fun to participate in, even in the rounds where I didn't know the artist. Glad to hear that you're planning to explore NM and C&C! :tup Opeth is cool too, but those are two artists I love.
No problem mate! :tup
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Tim, thanks for running this. I thought it was fun (since I only really listen to two of the artists, and two others - Haken and Steven Wilson - I actively dislike).
Happy New Years!
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I know in a number of rounds, some of you were winging it, but that's OK. I think Evermind was winging it in every round. :lol
What gave it away? :lol
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Tim, thanks for running this. I thought it was fun (since I only really listen to two of the artists, and two others - Haken and Steven Wilson - I actively dislike).
Happy New Years!
Glad you could play!!!
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Sorry for taking ages to reply, haven't posted for a couple of weeks as have been pretty swamped, but anyway this roulette was great, thanks Tim!
Although dammit for coming so close! :lol
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Thought there might have been a surprise bonus round when I saw this bumped.
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The Winger round part 2
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Sorry for taking ages to reply, haven't posted for a couple of weeks as have been pretty swamped, but anyway this roulette was great, thanks Tim!
Although dammit for coming so close! :lol
I just thought you were mad! :lol
I know about coming close. I've been runner-up more times than I care to recall.
I think to YOU twice! :lol
Seriously, I'd rather come in last!
Glad you played. I thought you were going to run away with it after posting two 9.0's in the first round. But Puppies never took his foot off the gas.
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The Winger round part 2
No. Fucking. Way! :lol
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The Winger round part 2
No. Fucking. Way! :lol
Sent!
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Is this just Winger or anything Kip Winger? Need to know before I send.
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It's a not rocking enough thing. Tim like his rock dirty, not pretty.
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Is this just Winger or anything Kip Winger? Need to know before I send.
Just send anything from the great man.
I'll send something tonight. Just a few nice options.
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If one fucking Winger song shows up in my PM's, I'm gonna have Bosk throw you off of DTF!
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I think everyone needs to PM Tim a Winger song. :lol
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I think Puppies needs to STFU. :lol
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I think Puppies needs to STFU. :lol
:splodetard:
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I promise I won't PM you.
Doesn't mean I can't text you a song.
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I promise I won't PM you.
Doesn't mean I can't text you a song.
Just send it to him everywhere. Text, PM, facebook, twitter, instagram, myspace, fax, telegram, pony express, email, snail mail, sing it to him over the phone.... :biggrin:
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I promise I won't PM you.
Doesn't mean I can't text you a song.
Just send it to him everywhere. Text, PM, facebook, twitter, instagram, myspace, fax, telegram, pony express, email, snail mail, sing it to him over the phone.... :biggrin:
That's a great idea actually. Everyone send it to me on Facebook.
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Crankshaft doesn't have a Facebook profile! :lol
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Use the Instagram then.
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Yeah buddy. You don't have that or Twitter either though I think you'd love Twitter for music and sports.
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Sorry for taking ages to reply, haven't posted for a couple of weeks as have been pretty swamped, but anyway this roulette was great, thanks Tim!
Although dammit for coming so close! :lol
I just thought you were mad! :lol
:lol Something would have to go quite impressively wrong in a roulette for it to make me ragequit the whole forum for two weeks.
And yeah you've not quite come 2nd in any of my roulettes, but you have come 3rd (out of 18-22) in both of the last two, so close enough. I guess we can consider this your revenge. :lol
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I meant that I think I’ve come in 2nd to you in other people’s roulettes. :lol
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Yeah buddy. You don't have that or Twitter either though I think you'd love Twitter for music and sports.
Tim isn't the only fogey with zero social media
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Yeah buddy. You don't have that or Twitter either though I think you'd love Twitter for music and sports.
Tim isn't the only fogey with zero social media
I take more enjoyment in needling Tim then you Kade. :lol
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The Winger round part 2
No. Fucking. Way! :lol
Sent!
I'm in. SENT!
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Yeah buddy. You don't have that or Twitter either though I think you'd love Twitter for music and sports.
Tim isn't the only fogey with zero social media
I take more enjoyment in needling Tim then you Kade. :lol
That's a nice compliment thanks Joe. :tup
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Crankshaft doesn't have a Facebook profile! :lol
Legit LOL'd at this one! :rollin :rollin
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I meant that I think I’ve come in 2nd to you in other people’s roulettes. :lol
Oh yeah, that too. :lol