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'Squid Game' on Netflix . Korea show, really good five episodes in - won't spoil it, just say it's got a Battleroyale/Hunger Games vibe.
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EDIT by bosk1: I split this off as its own topic from the "What show are you watching?" thread, since it was generating a bit of discussion on its own and is likely to generate more.
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'Squid Game' on Netflix . Korea show, really good five episodes in - won't spoil it, just say it's got a Battleroyale/Hunger Games vibe.
Just saw episode 1, interesting so far.
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'Squid Game' on Netflix . Korea show, really good five episodes in - won't spoil it, just say it's got a Battleroyale/Hunger Games vibe.
Just saw episode 1, interesting so far.
Caught episode 1 last night. Kinda weird. I think I like it, but holding off on making a definitive statement yet. I was a bit surprised that it took so long to get to the first game in episode 1. I know they were trying to do quite a bit of character development first to make the audience feel the stakes. And I get it and respect that decision. I'm not sure they were completely effective or that that much time for character development prior to the game was needed. But I get it. Some thoughts/questions below...
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1. I was surprised by the decision at the end of episode 1. That isn't a bad thing, and I think it makes the overall plot more interesting in that they are back in the outside world for a bit before inevitably coming back to the game. But I was surprised. The stakes were established, and these people had zero hope outside of the game. And if the situations of any of the others were similar to that of the main protagonist, they didn't have long to live (or live without serious dismemberment or other consequences at the hand of loan sharks and the like). That was definitely true of #1 as he cast the deciding vote. I was surprised he voted the way he did. Anyway, this isn't a criticism. Just surprised me.
2. I'm predicting a romance between the main protagonist and the pickpocket girl he ended up being dumped on the side of the road with. Having them inexorably connected and hating each other, plus having them be dumped together in their underwear seems like pretty heavy foreshadowing.
3. "Life or death red light/green light" was awesome. :lol So was the slap game.
4. Things are weird in Korea.
5. Something in me viscerally HATES the type of "dread" buildup where you see a character making worse and worse choices that lead to a worse and worse situation like what we saw the main protagonist doing in the beginning. Kind of like A Simple Plan. I mean, I know that's the point. But I find it very offputting, and I have to consciously force myself to keep watching when I see a film or TV series heading that direction. I will usually just bail on that type of movie/show. Dunno if that's just me, or if a lot of people feel that way. Again, I get that there is a point to it, but I find it so uncomfortable that I just don't like that genre in general.
6. Anyone know whether the actual "squid game" they were playing as children is an actual thing? It seemed too convoluted to be an actual kids' game, but what do I know?
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'Squid Game' on Netflix . Korea show, really good five episodes in - won't spoil it, just say it's got a Battleroyale/Hunger Games vibe.
Just saw episode 1, interesting so far.
Finished it up. Peaks in the middle - the marble episode. Very good show though, ripe for a western remake.
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Bosk, looks like it is a real game. There are interviews with the writers saying they played the games as kids.
'Squid Game' on Netflix . Korea show, really good five episodes in - won't spoil it, just say it's got a Battleroyale/Hunger Games vibe.
Just saw episode 1, interesting so far.
Finished it up. Peaks in the middle - the marble episode. Very good show though, ripe for a western remake.
Looking forward to the rest :tup :corn
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'Squid Game' on Netflix . Korea show, really good five episodes in - won't spoil it, just say it's got a Battleroyale/Hunger Games vibe.
Just saw episode 1, interesting so far.
Finished it up. Peaks in the middle - the marble episode. Very good show though, ripe for a western remake.
Just saw the marble episode...wtf? :|
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'Squid Game' on Netflix . Korea show, really good five episodes in - won't spoil it, just say it's got a Battleroyale/Hunger Games vibe.
Just saw episode 1, interesting so far.
Finished it up. Peaks in the middle - the marble episode. Very good show though, ripe for a western remake.
Just saw the marble episode...wtf? :|
Yeah. That one has some pretty bit consequences. Keep going. There is more than meets the eye if you can stick with it to the end (I almost gave up on it a few times).
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'Squid Game' on Netflix . Korea show, really good five episodes in - won't spoil it, just say it's got a Battleroyale/Hunger Games vibe.
Just saw episode 1, interesting so far.
Finished it up. Peaks in the middle - the marble episode. Very good show though, ripe for a western remake.
Just saw the marble episode...wtf? :|
Yeah.....this is the one I left off on....so freaking brutal. I should finish the show up tonight.
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Finished Squid Game. Just another example of how people can be talked into making a mediocre at best series a #1 streaming show. Had plenty of potential and some cool moments but IMO it lost steam quick and was just a mush mash of cliche writing by the end.
Very underwhelmed by it all.
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I'm on episode 4 of Squid Game but I'm absolutely loving it so far.
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Finished Squid Game. Just another example of how people can be talked into making a mediocre at best series a #1 streaming show. Had plenty of potential and some cool moments but IMO it lost steam quick and was just a mush mash of cliche writing by the end.
Very underwhelmed by it all.
I was kinda disgusted by it and almost didn't finish. But that's kinda the point, too, so...
But I wouldn't consider it "mediocre." Whether one likes it or not is a matter of taste. But I thought it set out to do some pretty ambitious things and did them pretty well. There was also quite a bit of artfulness in what it did and how, and there was quite a lot that went far beneath the surface for those who care to dig (I don't want to get too specific so as not to spoil, but will post a few in tiny font below). But there are a LOT of Asian film tropes and stylizations that are very foreign to westerners, and can be offputting or come across is cheap/low-quality, strange, or just not land at all. I'm somewhat aware, and still had a hard time getting past some of that.
One area where I will criticize is that some things took excruciatingly long to develop. There were some scenes where you could see exactly what they were going to try to achieve, whether it be a plot point, or character development, or whatever, and it took uncomfortably long to actually get there. Not sure whether that was an intentional stylistic choice (kind of like, for example, some jokes in Family Guy, where the joke is initially funny, but then they keep dragging it out to the point where it gets uncomfortable, and then keep dragging it out even more until the uncomfortability is itself funny; that may work for some people and not work for others, but is an intentional stylistic choice), poor execution, or something else. Curious to know what others think.
Now for spoilery stuff...
First off, Gary, did you not think the twist with the old man being The Host was well done? I didn't see it coming and thought it was done very well. IMO, they dropped just enough hints throughout that after the reveal, the reveal made total sense, and it was rewarding to go back and contemplate them afterward. But the hints were subtle enough that, IMO, hardly anyone would have picked up on them before the reveal.
There was a pretty satisfying amount and depth of character development for the main characters that it felt like they were meaningful and they had developed arcs by the end. As pointed out above, some of it was excruciatingly slow at times. But the payoff was generally pretty satisfying.
There were interesting bits of foreshadowing throughout, some of which was pretty express, and some of which was subtle and well hidden. The 4.56 million prize for the horse race being somewhat of a foreshadowing of his number in the games (456). Or the prize box from the claw game foreshadowing the gift box coffins (and the lighter inside the box further cementing that parallel by foreshadowing how the bodies were disposed of). Also, the manner of a lot of bigger characters' deaths were foreshadowed by events in episode 2. Or the murals on the wall in the sleeping quarters foreshadowing which games would be played.
There were also interesting bits of symbolism and symmetry. For example, the main protagonist betting on horses that, ultimately, are just numbers in the beginning, and then him and his fellow contestants becoming just numbered "horses" during the game. Or the use of colors (red, in particular).
Anyway, there was a lot going on on a lot of different levels, and I found that to be pretty rewarding.
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Now for spoilery stuff...
First off, Gary, did you not think the twist with the old man being The Host was well done? I didn't see it coming and thought it was done very well. IMO, they dropped just enough hints throughout that after the reveal, the reveal made total sense, and it was rewarding to go back and contemplate them afterward. But the hints were subtle enough that, IMO, hardly anyone would have picked up on them before the reveal.
There was a pretty satisfying amount and depth of character development for the main characters that it felt like they were meaningful and they had developed arcs by the end. As pointed out above, some of it was excruciatingly slow at times. But the payoff was generally pretty satisfying.
There were interesting bits of foreshadowing throughout, some of which was pretty express, and some of which was subtle and well hidden. The 4.56 million prize for the horse race being somewhat of a foreshadowing of his number in the games (456). Or the prize box from the claw game foreshadowing the gift box coffins (and the lighter inside the box further cementing that parallel by foreshadowing how the bodies were disposed of). Also, the manner of a lot of bigger characters' deaths were foreshadowed by events in episode 2. Or the murals on the wall in the sleeping quarters foreshadowing which games would be played.
There were also interesting bits of symbolism and symmetry. For example, the main protagonist betting on horses that, ultimately, are just numbers in the beginning, and then him and his fellow contestants becoming just numbered "horses" during the game. Or the use of colors (red, in particular).
Anyway, there was a lot going on on a lot of different levels, and I found that to be pretty rewarding.
Well....
I can see your point on a few of those items. The use of foreshadowing was done well for sure, in multiple instances. I guess I just found some of the characters very 'typical' characters. The cute girl who was in it to save her family....brooding and sad, it was over played IMO. The one twist of the host being the cops brother you could see from a mile away...especially in the moment after the worked said the one kidney person was a woman. While the old man still being alive was a 'twist'....it was something that's been done multiple times now. Ultra rich get 'bored' and decide to use humans as entertainment.
I didn't 'dislike' the series per say. It could just be me but when I hear about a show/movie being the next best thing and it's blowing up like this has I expect it to blow me away. I wasn't blown away at all. It was fine and all but this attention and lore that it's garnering is WAY over the top IMO. Yeah it's a 'different' type show but lets calm down on the greatest Netflix show ever. I think that's more my issue than the actual show itself......and that's just something that bugs me about everything when it comes to people and our culture.
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This part isn't really spoilery, so I put it at normal size:
I didn't 'dislike' the series per say. It could just be me but when I hear about a show/movie being the next best thing and it's blowing up like this has I expect it to blow me away. I wasn't blown away at all. It was fine and all but this attention and lore that it's garnering is WAY over the top IMO. Yeah it's a 'different' type show but lets calm down on the greatest Netflix show ever. I think that's more my issue than the actual show itself......and that's just something that bugs me about everything when it comes to people and our culture.
Maybe the benefit to me personally was that I haven't seen that kind of hyperbole about it. I just saw that it was trending when I logged onto Netflix, and when the trailer played, it looked interesting enough to watch. I agree that that kind of hype is overblown and undeserved. But people have been saying that "X is the best thing since sliced bread!" since...well...sliced bread. :lol It's just what people do. Yeah, it can be annoying, but it isn't enough to keep me from appreciating what they did here.
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Now for spoilery stuff...
First off, Gary, did you not think the twist with the old man being The Host was well done? I didn't see it coming and thought it was done very well. IMO, they dropped just enough hints throughout that after the reveal, the reveal made total sense, and it was rewarding to go back and contemplate them afterward. But the hints were subtle enough that, IMO, hardly anyone would have picked up on them before the reveal.
There was a pretty satisfying amount and depth of character development for the main characters that it felt like they were meaningful and they had developed arcs by the end. As pointed out above, some of it was excruciatingly slow at times. But the payoff was generally pretty satisfying.
There were interesting bits of foreshadowing throughout, some of which was pretty express, and some of which was subtle and well hidden. The 4.56 million prize for the horse race being somewhat of a foreshadowing of his number in the games (456). Or the prize box from the claw game foreshadowing the gift box coffins (and the lighter inside the box further cementing that parallel by foreshadowing how the bodies were disposed of). Also, the manner of a lot of bigger characters' deaths were foreshadowed by events in episode 2. Or the murals on the wall in the sleeping quarters foreshadowing which games would be played.
There were also interesting bits of symbolism and symmetry. For example, the main protagonist betting on horses that, ultimately, are just numbers in the beginning, and then him and his fellow contestants becoming just numbered "horses" during the game. Or the use of colors (red, in particular).
Anyway, there was a lot going on on a lot of different levels, and I found that to be pretty rewarding.
Well....
I can see your point on a few of those items. The use of foreshadowing was done well for sure, in multiple instances. I guess I just found some of the characters very 'typical' characters. The cute girl who was in it to save her family....brooding and sad, it was over played IMO. The one twist of the host being the cops brother you could see from a mile away...especially in the moment after the worked said the one kidney person was a woman. While the old man still being alive was a 'twist'....it was something that's been done multiple times now. Ultra rich get 'bored' and decide to use humans as entertainment.
The show overall I thought was great. I think they lost me a little at the end, but I thought overall was a great show. Regarding your comment:
The one thing I disliked was the cop. It seems that he had not real part on the story. Unless it comes back in Season 2 that the images and videos he sent out actually went through, his presence in the show was meaningless. So If there is a season 2, which I expect it, we can see where that part of the story goes.
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The show overall I thought was great. I think they lost me a little at the end, but I thought overall was a great show. Regarding your comment:
The one thing I disliked was the cop. It seems that he had not real part on the story. Unless it comes back in Season 2 that the images and videos he sent out actually went through, his presence in the show was meaningless. So If there is a season 2, which I expect it, we can see where that part of the story goes.
Yeah.....I felt the same way. All of that time and energy invested into his character and then a pretty much meaningless death (should the info he gathered not make it to authorities) but then again....if it did.....the games were still going on a year later so I'd assume there would be some sort of undercover deal going or long term investigation.
Anyway, with his brother being a former winner and the 'host'.....then why would his brother have just gone missing and just now stopped paying his rent? He'd assumingly have the $$$ to pay rent....not leave that card behind in his old apartment....etc etc. That aspect of the story Seemed very sloppy being how particular he was as a host.
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Currently on Ep6...the marble episode. Holy fuck is this one heavy.
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Currently on Ep6...the marble episode. Holy fuck is this one heavy.
For sure. There are some things about the show that I found to be a bit offputting. But there is a lot that kept me thinking about it as well. Upon a rewatch and watching some analysis videos, there are actually a lot of really cool layers to what is going on, and it is pretty cool to peel them back and take a deep dive.
I do have one question (no spoilers) for those that have seen it: Is the English dubbed version somehow a rarity? That is what came up in my Netflix feed, so that is what I watched. But in all the analysis/reaction videos I have seen, they are watching it in Korean with subtitles, and I'm not sure why. I mean, not that there's anything wrong with watching it in the original language. But having to read subtitles means being distracted from and missing some visuals, so I would rather watch the dubbed version if given the choice.
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I always watch foreign movies and shows in their original language and just read the subtitles. I did try dubbed versions at times but they are really lacking the same emotional beat and sometimes the dialogue doesn't match the facial expressions. Which is why I don't bother with the dubs.
I too watched Squid Game and thought it was really well done. Putting hype aside and just rating the show on its own, it is quite entertaining. I thought the characters were really well cast and acted. Most people have already mentioned the major gripes and I have similar ones but I actually really enjoyed the finale. I don't mind the slow pace at all, the visuals and music was so hypnotic. It reminded me of the UK show "Utopia".
Certain things could have been written or executed a little tighter but overall I really enjoyed it. It wasn't just another Hunger Games/Battle Royale/running man type show. I mean the premise is similar but I really like how they took time to flesh out most of the characters.
I think trying to setup for a season two was a big miss, they could have neatly wrapped things up and still explore a compelling second season. Nevertheless, I'm glad I watched it.
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Currently on Ep6...the marble episode. Holy fuck is this one heavy.
For sure. There are some things about the show that I found to be a bit offputting. But there is a lot that kept me thinking about it as well. Upon a rewatch and watching some analysis videos, there are actually a lot of really cool layers to what is going on, and it is pretty cool to peel them back and take a deep dive.
I do have one question (no spoilers) for those that have seen it: Is the English dubbed version somehow a rarity? That is what came up in my Netflix feed, so that is what I watched. But in all the analysis/reaction videos I have seen, they are watching it in Korean with subtitles, and I'm not sure why. I mean, not that there's anything wrong with watching it in the original language. But having to read subtitles means being distracted from and missing some visuals, so I would rather watch the dubbed version if given the choice.
I watched with the English overdub. Tried to do subtitles for the first 20 minutes or so of the first episode and just gave up on it. I don't feel like I missed anything although I've heard that some things were lost in translation.
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I always watch foreign movies and shows in their original language and just read the subtitles. I did try dubbed versions at times but they are really lacking the same emotional beat and sometimes the dialogue doesn't match the facial expressions. Which is why I don't bother with the dubs.
I too watched Squid Game and thought it was really well done. Putting hype aside and just rating the show on its own, it is quite entertaining. I thought the characters were really well cast and acted. Most people have already mentioned the major gripes and I have similar ones but I actually really enjoyed the finale. I don't mind the slow pace at all, the visuals and music was so hypnotic. It reminded me of the UK show "Utopia".
Certain things could have been written or executed a little tighter but overall I really enjoyed it. It wasn't just another Hunger Games/Battle Royale/running man type show. I mean the premise is similar but I really like how they took time to flesh out most of the characters.
I think trying to setup for a season two was a big miss, they could have neatly wrapped things up and still explore a compelling second season. Nevertheless, I'm glad I watched it.
I totally get what you are saying. But for me, I just hate that, if I am busy reading subtitles, I miss facial expressions and other nonverbal things that are onscreen, which means I can miss some pretty important details.
Some of the things I really liked about the show were some of the really, really smart choices they made in terms of how things were filmed. For example (no way to do this without revealing spoilers, so...)
The nighttime brawl scene in the "barracks" was brilliant. They could have just shown the battle royale with all the blood and gore. They had already shown that they weren't shying away from blood, gore, and violence. But having it start in the dark, and then going to strobe lights made it SO much more tense. I truly appreciate that they let the audience's minds fill in the blanks, and that doing so was FAR more effective at creating tension and horror than just about anything they could have actually shown onscreen. No two ways about it, this is just smart film making.
Similarly, I love how they did certain other things off screen and let the character reactions do the work for us. For example, during the marble episode, when Ali was execute off screen, you just hear a gun shot at the same time you see Sang-Woo walking away contemplating the weight of what he did and how he won, and seeing him flinch as the gun goes off is pretty chilling. Most of us hate him from that point forward. But we also see that he is human and is trying to grapple with and rationalize what he is doing, and isn't 100% comfortable with it. To me, seeing the effect on him and his flinch is far more effective than seeing Ali being shot.
Of course, the other obvious impact of that scene being shot that way is that we as the audience do not question it when Il-Nam is then seemingly executed off screen as well, and the impact on Gi-Hun when, similarly, he walks away as his friend is about to be executed and grappling with the conflicting feelings of relief at being alive, sorrow as his friend is executed, and guilt and his own manipulation and dishonesty.
So much genius in those two executions being parallel. Of course, it has the practical effect of allowing the show to continue hiding the twist of Il-Nam being the host. But the parallel is also pretty awesome in comparing and contrasting how Gi-Hun and Sang-Woo process and move forward from their betrayal. The former finds a way to hold onto the guilt and eventually let it restore a portion of his humanity, whereas the latter allows it to spiral him farther down to path of selfish ambition that ultimately destroys him. It really is well done.
Separate from the parallel between those two, Ji-Yeong's execution was also well done for different reasons. The show pretty much telegraphed that when she and Sae-Byeok decided to talk and then play a "winner takes all" round just before time expired, that they were going to try to get you to sympathize by doing some character development through exposition. But even though they pretty much told the audience exactly what they were going to do, it still worked and had a pretty profound emotional impact at the end. And the way the shot was framed with Sae-Byeok in the foreground, and Ji-Yeong being blurred out in the background as she was shot and collapsed to the ground was really impactful. Again, you feel more from Sae-Byeok's reaction than a clear shot of Ji-Yeong being shot in the head would have had.
Lots of other moments I could cite to. But those are some very visual examples of what the show did incredibly well, IMO.
EDIT: By the way, there has been enough discussion that I am going to split this off into its own thread. I have a feeling it could take off more. And if it doesn't, that's fine too.
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Yeah this could be its own thread or maybe the Netflix shows thread.
Agreed on your small fonts, I really appreciated how things were shown and a large portion it had great restraint and showed the blood and gore when needed not just for the sake of it.
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Do you think that there is anything to the supposed "hints" that
Il-Nam is Gi-Hun's father?
Personally, I think the details that support that are just in-show coincidence, and not really meant to lead us down that path. But I am curious about that. I guess we may find out in season 2. I kinda hope they stay away from that, as I wouldn't find that to be a smart story choice. I think it works better that they are just two strangers that bonded during the experience through what they saw in each other.
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That thought did cross my mind a couple of times but it seemed too much of a stretch to be true. Though with season 2 being worked on who knows they just might incorporate it as more than a hint. I too really hope they don't utilize it. It would ruin many aspects of the season one story arc.
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Another thing they did well, IMO: Like a lot of MCU films (especially Infinity War and Endgame), they were able to cover a lot of ground by having a lot of scenes do more than one thing. For example...
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This may seem like an odd example, but the bathroom shows up a couple of times, and each scene has at least a couple of different things going on that move the story forward on a couple of different levels.
The first time, Han Mi-nyeo tricks the guards into letting her go so she can sneak a smoke, and Sae-Byeok sneaks in to spy out that the guards are cooking the honeycomb for the next game. It seems like the scene is important because Sae-Byeok has stumbled upon something, and we wonder what the guards were cooking. When that ultimately doesn't really go anywhere, the scene may either be forgotten or feel like just a throwaway. We don't know whether they are cooking drugs, or poison, or some concoction of body parts, or what. We can later put together that it is honeycomb, and it kinda feels like..."oh, that's it?" The scene isn't that important on its own. But it does several small things:
-For nonwesterners who actually knew what honeycomb is ahead of time (not me), it forshadows the next game.
-It gives us a bit of character development: It sets up Sae-Byeok as brave and proactive about her situation. It also further sets up Mi-Nyeo as an unlikeable character who is kinda gross and willing to break or disregard the rules if she thinks she can get something out of it.
-It sets up the location for the more important second time we see that location, and helps us understand and not question how Mi-Nyeo and Deok-Su can be alone there later on.
So while it almost seems like a plot dead end that ended up being abandoned (I know that I mistakenly thought that this would be the first of many attempts by the main characters to infiltrate the operation and spy things out to either gain advantages or to blow up the games), it actually does fill some valuable roles.
The second time we see the bathroom, it also manages to accomplish more than one thing:
-The most obvious is that it sets up both of those characters are mercenaries in their own way, and foreshadows that Mi-Nyeo will kill Deok-Su. Related to that, it also sets up the betrayal in the tug-o-war episode, and somewhat raises the stakes.
-The location itself (and, by extension, the fact that the characters are having sex there) serves to subliminally convey that these are a couple of gross, disgusting people.
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I watched with subtitles, as I always do with foreign shows. The dubbing is too offputting.
I enjoyed Squid Game, but I don’t find it plausible that all those people would voluntarily return to play the game after witnessing hundreds of people being slaughtered. They would have some kind of PTSD after that, and I don't think filthy lucre has quite that much power.
I agree that the storyline with the cop seems pointless, and it was an unsatisfying outcome.
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My 5th grader asked me if she could check out this show because EVERYONE is watching it.
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My 5th grader asked me if she could check out this show because EVERYONE is watching it.
Well be ready to provide lots of therapy afterwards ;D
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My 5th grader asked me if she could check out this show because EVERYONE is watching it.
Well be ready to provide lots of therapy afterwards ;D
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Yeaaaah, I don't think anyone younger than 18 should be watching Squid Game given the graphic nature of it, and it's themes throughout the show. But if you're okay with showing them that stuff, go right ahead! Some people are ready to handle some more mature stuff than others at different ages.
As for *my* experience with Squid Game, I started it last week and finished it over the last weekend and WHEW it totally wiped me out, especially in Episode 9. There's a lot going on and since finishing the show, I've watched cast interviews and tons of theory videos and other reactions on YouTube. There's a lot going on in the show, way more than a single watch could reveal, so I may watch it again at some point.
And considering the writer/director spent 10 years working on this, I have to wonder if a 2nd season could live up to the first one.
-Marc.
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My 5th grader asked me if she could check out this show because EVERYONE is watching it.
Well be ready to provide lots of therapy afterwards ;D
She is a very sensitive kid, yet hasn't seemed bothered by any violence she may have seen on TV/film. She watches some medical drama with mom and just looks away any time there is blood shown during surgery or whatever is happening. We watched a few clips and I told her if she still wanted to watch, we could together, and she said she wasn't interested.
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Yeah it's really intense at times and makes for some traumatic viewing. And a lot of blood.
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Chris, if she now isn't interested, I guess it's a moot point. But my advice for any parent with a kid under 16 (and probably under 18 as Marc suggested) that wants to watch it is that the parent should watch it first and decide whether the child can handle it. If so, I would watch it together, AND definitely have discussions about each episode afterward to help process it properly.
FWIW, my 11 year old heard about it and asked to watch it, and I said no, it isn't appropriate for her age and level of maturity.
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Just a couple episodes in, but I'm really enjoying the show.
The acting is a little over the top and exaggerated. It may just be the awkwardness of the dubbing, but I'll take it
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Just a couple episodes in, but I'm really enjoying the show.
The acting is a little over the top and exaggerated. It may just be the awkwardness of the dubbing, but I'll take it
The dub is pretty awful from the clips I've seen on YouTube. I went with original audio with English subtitles (not English CC, which is somehow different). The original Korean acting is superb and probably the best way to watch it if possible. I'm usually on the fence with subs/dubs when it comes.to anime/animation, but with live action, it feels weird and very Mid-20th-century Godzilla dubs sort of awful.
-Marc.
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It's an OK show but not more than that. It's like a mashup of Saw and Hostel film series and its fiction based on Hunger Games and Cube a bit. No originality and the acting is kinda off. Watchable? Yes if you have free time.
The thing that bugs me more:
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The police sneaked into so easily and he lived there for days, he took many photos, recorded videos and his phone battery didn't die.
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Just finished it.
Started out really loving it and by the end thought it was meh. Peaked at the marble episode and I slowly lost interest as it limped to the finish line.
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Just finished it.
Started out really loving it and by the end thought it was meh. Peaked at the marble episode and I slowly lost interest as it limped to the finish line.
Yep. This is/was me. I’ve commented in the other thread about the show…..I get some of the symbolism and foreshadowing was done well but all in all I thought it was a pretty average show with average writing and average character development/interest. IMO Certainly nothing to garner the accolades and mania that’s happening around it.
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I disagree on the writing. The writing on this show was FAR above average. Loads of really smart writing that you don't see in the typical show.
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Just finished it.
Started out really loving it and by the end thought it was meh. Peaked at the marble episode and I slowly lost interest as it limped to the finish line.
Yep. This is/was me. I’ve commented in the other thread about the show…..I get some of the symbolism and foreshadowing was done well but all in all I thought it was a pretty average show with average writing and average character development/interest. IMO Certainly nothing to garner the accolades and mania that’s happening around it.
I have to say that I really disagree with the bold text. I think it is totally cool if you don't like the show, I can totally understand that. But one thing this show does above many others is it does its best to develop the characters and give them backstories and meaningful connections and in some ways kind of realistic reasons for taking part in the game. I mean the first two thirds or more of the first episode is just totally character development.
Overall I thought this was a really great show, but I am very surprised at its overall popularity.
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Just finished it.
Started out really loving it and by the end thought it was meh. Peaked at the marble episode and I slowly lost interest as it limped to the finish line.
Yep. This is/was me. I’ve commented in the other thread about the show…..I get some of the symbolism and foreshadowing was done well but all in all I thought it was a pretty average show with average writing and average character development/interest. IMO Certainly nothing to garner the accolades and mania that’s happening around it.
I have to say that I really disagree with the bold text. I think it is totally cool if you don't like the show, I can totally understand that. But one thing this show does above many others is it does its best to develop the characters and give them backstories and meaningful connections and in some ways kind of realistic reasons for taking part in the game. I mean the first two thirds or more of the first episode is just totally character development.
Overall I thought this was a really great show, but I am very surprised at its overall popularity.
Yeah….I’ll just agree to disagree about the writing. Just like music this is all subjective so it’s all about perception. I’m not suggesting there was zero character development, I just don’t see the development that was there as overly impressive.
I have a major issue with the wasted under cover police officer character. That entire storyline was just a waste of time…..tying him to the host was literally pointless especially given there was no second season planned (until the popularity) so it’s not as if they were setting up a dramatic return of the cop who survived the gunshot and fall to the ocean. And being that the show jumped a year if the information he sent out was received by his captain there’d have been news about it. And You could sense the entire time who the final two would be and that ol boy was going to either sacrifice himself like he did or refuse to kill the main character due to the heavily alluded to regret he had building up.
Anyway…..I don’t want to rag on the show too much because I know folks dug it. But I have a massive backlog of shows/movies/series etc etc……I’ve watched……almost a shameful amount….. and when I compare this show to the countless hours of content I’ve viewed……my opinion still remains that it’s an average show in all aspects.
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All good, I get it.
In terms of the police officer character, he really existed as a way for us, the audience to gain further information and back story on the history of the games. Him being in the show provided a way into the 'behind the scenes' including the file room etc which helped build the history. It could have been done in other ways I guess but that is the way the creators/writers chose to do it. Linking him to another character also provided a 'shock reveal'. Also, we don't know for sure if he is dead so he may return....
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All good, I get it.
In terms of the police officer character, he really existed as a way for us, the audience to gain further information and back story on the history of the games. Him being in the show provided a way into the 'behind the scenes' including the file room etc which helped build the history. It could have been done in other ways I guess but that is the way the creators/writers chose to do it. Linking him to another character also provided a 'shock reveal'. Also, we don't know for sure if he is dead so he may return....
Totally get that’s why he was there…..but, tying him to the host for the very short reunion with zero resolution as to why his brother was the host……it didn’t seem very well planned out. And again, this was written with no plan for a S2 so his return wasn’t a sure thing. He will 100% show back up in the inevitable S2 though.
I think the audience could have learned all we did from the chic who had already crawled through the duct work. The groundwork was laid for her to be able to run around the complex but I can see why they used the UC officer. Just feel like it was pretty anti climactic between he and his brother, especially since the moment the workers said the single kidney dead person was a girl it was a given the host was his brother. That reveal wasn’t much of a shocker.
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Yeah, reading what you wrote, none of that is bad writing--it's just stuff that, for whatever reason, doesn't work for you specifically. I'll stand by this being one of the most smartly and tightly written TV series I've seen in a VERY long time.
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For those not sure if they want to see the show, here's a quick video summary :lol
https://imgur.com/gallery/bbZ9z9C
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Was just kind of messing around with the math on the games to see, theoretically, how many winners you could realistically have in the games. Heavy spoilers below, so read at own risk if you haven't seen this.
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Some of this is based on Film Theory's analysis here (which is a GREAT video, as are a lot of his): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54avjfIu1OI
So, walking through each game, working off or actual probabilities, as well as some other assumptions, I wanted to try to figure out a "maximum" number of potential winners. These are VERY optimistic assumptions, but again, I just wanted to try to figure out the maximum numbers, so that's why.
So, we go into the first game with 456 players. And the largest player % elimination games are the player vs. player games, which occur in rounds 3 (tug of war), 4 (marbles), and 6 (squid game). But round 5 (bridge) is also problematic, for reasons I will get into below. Let's also assume that the players quickly figure out MattPat's premise in the video above that cooperation maximizes everyone's survival, and so nobody sabotages/kills anyone else.
Round 1 (red light/green light): We start with 456 players. Someone is going to screw up. Let's say it initially plays out like we saw in episode 1. But as soon as the second guy dies, the other players realize what is going on and hold it together, getting through the round with only 2 eliminations. Yeah, that is WAY optimistic. But let's roll with it. So we get out of round 1 with 454 players.
Round 2 (dalgona): Let's assume everyone gets through--especially if they pick up on the clues and figure out what the game is, and all choose easy shapes, and/or they figure out the licking strategy or some other creative means of surviving the round. End of round: 454 players. Odds are, we are going to lose some players anyway, but whatever. Deal with it.
Round 3 (tug of war): Start with 454 players. This is the first player vs. player challenge. Half of the people playing this round are going to die. With 454 players, that would yield 45 teams. But you need an even number of teams, so one team could not play. That leaves 14 people that will not play in that round. As we saw in the marbles episode, players who are not chosen for a team and cannot play do not get eliminated. We CAN assume that that would apply in all such games, because that is actually a thing in Korean culture (which is exactly WHY it happened in the Marbles episode). Basically, in kids' games, where younger or weaker or less popular kids don't get picked on teams, those kids get to play and are given perks or are immune from losing so that they can get a chance to play like everyone else. Anyhow, we get 44 teams, or 440 playing. 22 teams will be eliminated. So 454 - 220 players gives us 234 players at the end of the round.
Round 4 (marbles): Another player vs. player round. Start: 234 players. Half are eliminated, leaving 117.
Round 5 (bridge): This is where I lean heavily into the Film Theory video. We start with the assumption that, statistically, the first 9 people (on average) die. Maybe the glass maker comes forward early, and we lose less than that. But let's just stick with the math. So we are down to 108, according to MattPat's formula. And let's say everyone cooperates from this point forward, and they also move quickly and don't waste time. But here's the problem we still have: Even moving quickly, but carefully, I don't think we can get that many people across the bridge before time runs out. They have to move quickly to conserve time. But they have to move carefully because one wrong move, and...well, you know. This is where it gets really hard to predict. I dunno. Is it optimistic AND realistic to assume we get 54 across the bridge in the time limit? Let's just go with that. End of round: 54 survivors.
Round 6 (squid game): The last player vs. player game. We go in with 54 survivors. How many get eliminated? Hmm...hard to say. In one sense, the defense is at a supreme disadvantage. They can succeed all the way through until the last player, and if that last player breaks through, the entire defense loses and is eliminated. On the other hand, with 54 survivors, that leaves 27 defenders to defend the court. 27! Given the size of the court, I think they can easily cover it well enough that nobody can get through. In any case, let's just assume optimum results for one team or the other, and 50% survive. That leave us 27 winners.
So, being somewhat realistic, but aggressively optimistic, I think we could maybe have as many as 27 winners in a given season.
So that was my fun math/time-wasting exercise for today. :D
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Saw the first episode today. Really good!
Based on the non-spoiler stuff I've read here and elsewhere, the show kind of goes downhill after the first episode a bit?
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I wouldn't say that. Not at all. There are definitely peaks and valleys all the way through, but there is some REALLY good stuff in the later episodes.
If you have time to kill once you get finished, I highly recommend her reaction videos: https://www.youtube.com/c/AlexandraOlesen/videos
The reason is, starting about midway through, she drops a LOT of explanations about Korean culture and certain words or phrases that have a much deeper meaning in Korean than the translations can convey. She drops a few important ones in the earlier episodes as well, but I probably got a lot more from the later episodes.
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Saw the first episode today. Really good!
Based on the non-spoiler stuff I've read here and elsewhere, the show kind of goes downhill after the first episode a bit?
I think the momentum changes by the end and most would say it's a drop in quality. I don't know if I think it's a drop in quality but I personally think some of the loose ends could have been tied together a bit better. I have no problem with the ending or how things were left. Some things in the end appear a bit messy.
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...I personally think some of the loose ends could have been tied together a bit better. I have no problem with the ending or how things were left. Some things in the end appear a bit messy.
Really? ??? They dangled so many loose ends throughout the show, and somehow managed to tie up ALL of them, including ones most people did not even realize were loose ends until the end of the show. They paid of SO MANY Chekhov's guns that I can't see how they possibly could have done it better.
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I'm not saying they didn't tie them up, I'm saying they could have made a bit more cohesive. This isn't overtly negative on my part btw, I really really enjoyed the show and I would rate it a solid 9/10 overall. I'm just saying the way they tied it up could've been a little cleaner.
Like the cop's arc. From the interviews I read of the creator/director/writer he mentions that his story was tacked on later as he felt there needed to be more perspective from an outsider. I don't have a problem with his arc, I just wished again that it was maybe somewhat rounded.
The best part of the entire show is the character development of all major roles including many of the side roles, but the cop's was kinda just there IMO.
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Saw the first episode today. Really good!
Based on the non-spoiler stuff I've read here and elsewhere, the show kind of goes downhill after the first episode a bit?
No as someone else said it's peaks and valleys. I think it peaks on the marble episode, but unfortunately it's weakest episode is the finale, but even then it's not a Dexter (or Enterprise 🤪) finale, it's just a bit flat.
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At episode 7. Enjoying it, but man are those VIP's hamming it up, feels like they are parody characters
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Episode 6 just destroyed me.
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Yup.
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Episode 7 was good, but so far the worst. The actors playing the VIPs were terrible and the big explosion thing at the end felt way too over the top.
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Episode 7 was good, but so far the worst. The actors playing the VIPs were terrible and the big explosion thing at the end felt way too over the top.
Episode 8 is a strange one is that's it's about half the length of the other episodes - on saying that I think it's the best of the final 3 episodes.
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It was slow, too straightforward, a real pain to watch for me.
Even the gore was useless, it added nothing, and kids are watching that with or without their parents' consent and recreate the games at school.
Long story short :
-Watch only the games
-Boo boo, capitalism bad, this world is rotten, people are bad
Would rewatch Battle Royale 10 times over that.
PS : Some of squid games actors are good.
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I'm watching this, I'm three episodes in.
I was surprised how the second episode started with the outcome of the vote, you'd figure that of course they would vote in a certain way since it's the second episode but no... anyway, episode three it's all back to business and now let's see how it will go.
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I overall enjoyed it. There are many things I consider to be top tier streaming, but there are two things I really could do without: the shitty acting of the VIP's and the plot twist in the final episode (which for me really cheapened a great moment a couple of episodes prior).
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Finished it. Overall, a good show, the hype was deserved.
I daresay that the marble episodes was better than the infamous "Long night" episode of the final season of Game of Thrones. The moment you realize that the couples are not playing together, but against each other, you go "oh shit so each one of them will die and only the other one will survive?"..... and yes, that's exactly what happens, no cop-outs (except, well, the twist).
That was the heaviest episode. And silly of me to never even think that the last game of Squid Game would have been..... a squid game.
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Finished it. Overall, a good show, the hype was deserved.
I daresay that the marble episodes was better than the infamous "Long night" episode of the final season of Game of Thrones. The moment you realize that the couples are not playing together, but against each other, you go "oh shit so each one of them will die and only the other one will survive?"..... and yes, that's exactly what happens, no cop-outs (except, well, the twist).
That was the heaviest episode. And silly of me to never even think that the last game of Squid Game would have been..... a squid game.
I agree, the marble episode was really well done, with a lot of tension and emotional baggage.
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So I finally gave in and watched it, I usually avoid very hyped shows for various reasons. This show is just everywhere, even my 10-12yr students talk about this....
In general I liked it, I kinda thought it would be more gory than it was and I had pictured something completely diffrent regarding this famous "marble" episode. :lol
I was a bit annoyed by the VIPs episode, I just thought that episode was kinda weak and the acting was just meh other than that it was a good show.
K-shows are lit right now!
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So MrBeast made a real life squid game show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e3GPea1Tyg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e3GPea1Tyg)
It's actually pretty well thought out and executed (obviously without people dying). I'd recommend checking it out, but there is a very annoying advertisement built into the video which kind of sucks the steam out of it. The game with the glass walk way is actually really intense.
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It's actually pretty well thought out and executed
(obviously without people dying).
Mmmmh pick one.
;D :lol
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...I personally think some of the loose ends could have been tied together a bit better. I have no problem with the ending or how things were left. Some things in the end appear a bit messy.
Really? ??? They dangled so many loose ends throughout the show, and somehow managed to tie up ALL of them, including ones most people did not even realize were loose ends until the end of the show. They paid of SO MANY Chekhov's guns that I can't see how they possibly could have done it better.
Late to the party, but I blew through the show in two nights and just read through this thread, and this post baffles me.
For the record, I liked the show a lot. It was a great idea and it was very well done. I thought the writing and acting were excellent.* I even liked the episode after Marbles with the VIP guys, which doesn't seem to have gone over well here. As good as Marbles was, it was absolutely gut wrenching, and the VIP guys were just silly enough to provide a brief, but necessary respite, while still being fairly dramatic and evocative. I did have a couple of problems, though. The circle guy allowing the bully to change the rules in the marbles game was totally out of character for the series. Also, the game itself delivering a mortal wound to the cute Korean gal who'd just successfully completing the challenge was also problematic. Both kind of dumped on the idea of the contestants all being equal insofar as the game is concerned, which was a major point of the contest. Still, minor problems.
I thought the final episode was awful, though, and the idea that that they wrapped up all the lose ends baffles me. The final showdown with the squid game was exactly how it should have ended, but they added a pointless, and honestly stupid plot twist rather than answering questions they spent half the series asking. Making Old Guy the Host was silly and unnecessary. Not to mention that he was far more interesting as Player 001, and going out the way he was presumed to have. Leaving the Host unknown would have been just fine--it was a question that didn't need answering. Why the Front Man was the cop's brother, and what their story was actually did need to be addressed. I had assumed early on the Front Man was a previous winner, but since they pointed out that the cop's brother only disappeared a few days earlier, there was no reason to connect the two. I understand why they added the cop to the series, they wanted to show some of the behind the scenes goings on, but the lack of an ending to that, in favor of a silly plot twist was a real injustice, I think. And since the writer/director/creator wasn't considering a sequel at that point, he doesn't have that as an excuse.
*I find subtitles tiresome, but it's really the only way to go. In truth, with good acting you don't need to understand every word of dialogue. Tone and inflection are just as important as the words they use. Dubbing works alright because we don't know the actors, and how they sound in real life and in their native language, but it kind of resolves the actors to the role of stand-ins. Try reversing that and thinking of famous actors and how it'd work if they were overdubbed. Maybe Harvey Keitel. How's that gonna work out? Steve Buschimi?
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How long is this? Is this one of those six episode arcs? I should watch it at some point.
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How long is this? Is this one of those six episode arcs? I should watch it at some point.
Nine episodes, and absolutely brutal.
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How long is this? Is this one of those six episode arcs? I should watch it at some point.
9, as Barto said. And, yeah, you really should.
I thought the final episode was awful, though, and the idea that that they wrapped up all the lose ends baffles me. The final showdown with the squid game was exactly how it should have ended, but they added a pointless, and honestly stupid plot twist rather than answering questions they spent half the series asking. Making Old Guy the Host was silly and unnecessary. Not to mention that he was far more interesting as Player 001, and going out the way he was presumed to have. Leaving the Host unknown would have been just fine--it was a question that didn't need answering. Why the Front Man was the cop's brother, and what their story was actually did need to be addressed. I had assumed early on the Front Man was a previous winner, but since they pointed out that the cop's brother only disappeared a few days earlier, there was no reason to connect the two. I understand why they added the cop to the series, they wanted to show some of the behind the scenes goings on, but the lack of an ending to that, in favor of a silly plot twist was a real injustice, I think. And since the writer/director/creator wasn't considering a sequel at that point, he doesn't have that as an excuse.
Not sure what you mean by the bolded. What questions?
Otherwise, as to the specific details you mention, I think we are talking about two different concepts. I am saying that, whenever they dropped something on you in the show, they came back later and addressed/resolved it rather than leave it dangling. You seem to be saying, "the way they addressed things left me wanting, and they did X when they should have done Y." And that's fine. You are entitled to your opinion, obviously. But to me, that's just Monday morning quarterbacking and doesn't really get us anywhere other than the serious would have subjectively satisfied you personally if they would have done some things differently that better suited your tases. And, again, that's fine. That's where a lot of the fun discussion happens. But I was only addressing the more objective point of the fact that it was good writing in terms of not leaving loose threads needlessly dangling (other than those they chose to leave dangling for future seasons, which isn't "needlessly" dangling).
For some of the other stuff you mentioned:
Subtitled: Yeah, not my favorite either, but with films that aren't done in one's native language, what are you gonna do? I actually wasn't paying attention and didn't realize there was a subtitled option when I started watching, and I ended up watching the English dubbed version. Both have their drawbacks. Dubs are inferior because, at best, the voiceovers often fail to convey a lot of what was done in the original language. At worst, they can take you out of the moment for a variety of reasons. I think the dubs on this series touched both ends of the spectrum. But to me, one of the biggest drawbacks of subtitles is that if you are busy reading subtitled, you miss a lot of facial expressions, paralanguage, and other stuff going on onscreen that is important or, at least, sometimes adds an extra layer of emotion that you miss because you just don't see it while you are reading. Both are problematic.
I'm on the fence about whether the bully getting to change the marble game partway through was "inconsistent." There were a number of times throughout the games when there were ways to win that seemed to violate the spirit of the game, but didn't technically break the stated rules, and were allowed. I think that came out quite a bit in the "honeycomb" game. The stated rule was to get the shape out of the wafer without breaking the shape. The assumption was: use your needle and nothing else. But we instead saw many variations that did not violate the stated rule that ended up really leaving the interpretation of the rule as: "get the shape out of the wafer without breaking the shape, and we don't care in the slightest how that ends up happening as long as you don't break the shape." That was an example very early on of "if it isn't expressly stated in the rules, it's probably fair game." In marbles, you pretty much just had to agree on a game and then take your opponent's marbles by any means other than force. Arguably, the bully and his crony were no longer in agreement on the game, so it was fair play for them to have to mutually agree on a different one. And arguably, that's similar to what Sang Woo and Ali did in abandoning their wagering game before the final wager (the difference being, of course, that although they were agreeing to a different "game," Ali didn't understand the game that was being played). What actually bugged me a bit more along the lines you mentioned was the Front Man turning out the lights during the bridge game. To me, that actually seemed more inconsistent with how they were going things. But I guess he was more responding to the customer relations issue at that point of the VIPs not liking that one of the players figured out a workaround.
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Not sure what you mean by the bolded. What questions?
Otherwise, as to the specific details you mention, I think we are talking about two different concepts. I am saying that, whenever they dropped something on you in the show, they came back later and addressed/resolved it rather than leave it dangling. You seem to be saying, "the way they addressed things left me wanting, and they did X when they should have done Y." And that's fine. You are entitled to your opinion, obviously. But to me, that's just Monday morning quarterbacking and doesn't really get us anywhere other than the serious would have subjectively satisfied you personally if they would have done some things differently that better suited your tases. And, again, that's fine. That's where a lot of the fun discussion happens. But I was only addressing the more objective point of the fact that it was good writing in terms of not leaving loose threads needlessly dangling (other than those they chose to leave dangling for future seasons, which isn't "needlessly" dangling).
Not really. I think they spent half of the series setting up a story with the cop and never provided any real resolution. In fact, they merely created more questions. Even if you just want to boil it down to "Brother Front Man won and Brother Cop died," even that creates problems. There's an issue with timing insofar as BFM. There's the ambiguous death of BC. There's the matter of why the cops didn't respond, despite the disappearance of two of their own, and an easily tracebable phone call from one of them in distress (doesn't matter if the videos went through or not). While I liked the writing, too, BC was a plot device that was merely abandoned after it served its purpose with no real resolution.
And I'm pretty sure the possibility of a sequel was never a consideration during the writing process.
I'm on the fence about whether the bully getting to change the marble game partway through was "inconsistent." There were a number of times throughout the games when there were ways to win that seemed to violate the spirit of the game, but didn't technically break the stated rules, and were allowed. I think that came out quite a bit in the "honeycomb" game. The stated rule was to get the shape out of the wafer without breaking the shape. The assumption was: use your needle and nothing else. But we instead saw many variations that did not violate the stated rule that ended up really leaving the interpretation of the rule as: "get the shape out of the wafer without breaking the shape, and we don't care in the slightest how that ends up happening as long as you don't break the shape." That was an example very early on of "if it isn't expressly stated in the rules, it's probably fair game." In marbles, you pretty much just had to agree on a game and then take your opponent's marbles by any means other than force. Arguably, the bully and his crony were no longer in agreement on the game, so it was fair play for them to have to mutually agree on a different one. And arguably, that's similar to what Sang Woo and Ali did in abandoning their wagering game before the final wager (the difference being, of course, that although they were agreeing to a different "game," Ali didn't understand the game that was being played). What actually bugged me a bit more along the lines you mentioned was the Front Man turning out the lights during the bridge game. To me, that actually seemed more inconsistent with how they were going things. But I guess he was more responding to the customer relations issue at that point of the VIPs not liking that one of the players figured out a workaround.
Was there ever an example of a Triangle (I said Circle earlier, but it was a Triangle) interacting with a player? A big part of what made them menacing was their obstinate silence. I was actually shocked when one answered his question. They made a point to establish very rigid roles with ops, enforcers, and managers. Triangle had no business making that call, in large part because of the fact that it was dubious, at the very least. And while I get that there's ambiguity in how the players resolve the games, that was cut and dry. Bully agreed to the game and his suddenly ballsy lackey did not agree to change the game.
And I agree that turning the lights off was also questionable, but as you said, that may have just been a fix for an unforeseen problem. However, Front Man did specifically point out that one of them was a professional glass maker and it was documented in his background report. In any case, that one didn't bug me as much as the Marble thing and fragging the girl when the bridge exploded.
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And I'm pretty sure the possibility of a sequel was never a consideration during the writing process.
I find this hard to believe though. For one, because of how the story played out leaving a little more to be desired, specifically about BC. I know the show wasn't renewed until after it went viral so it was never written in stone that there would be more, but I think the writer had to sprinkle some things in just in case there was a future. If the show never got a follow up, I think the story was closed enough to be a fine ending but a few extra question marks for a follow up seems to have been in place. Just my thought, I haven't read anything to confirm or deny that thought.
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And I'm pretty sure the possibility of a sequel was never a consideration during the writing process.
I find this hard to believe though. For one, because of how the story played out leaving a little more to be desired, specifically about BC. I know the show wasn't renewed until after it went viral so it was never written in stone that there would be more, but I think the writer had to sprinkle some things in just in case there was a future. If the show never got a follow up, I think the story was closed enough to be a fine ending but a few extra question marks for a follow up seems to have been in place. Just my thought, I haven't read anything to confirm or deny that thought.
Hwang has said he wasn't writing it with a sequel in mind. For one thing he had no idea it was going to be so popular. Also, apparently the writing/producing/directing process was so grueling it was all he could do to make the first one. At the same time he did say he left a thread or two dangling in the finale, just in case. So I guess that is an excuse for the ending, albeit not a particularly satisfying one. For the time being he has no desire to jump back into it.
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So MrBeast made a real life squid game show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e3GPea1Tyg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e3GPea1Tyg)
It's actually pretty well thought out and executed (obviously without people dying). I'd recommend checking it out, but there is a very annoying advertisement built into the video which kind of sucks the steam out of it. The game with the glass walk way is actually really intense.
That is cool as shit :tup
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https://youtu.be/LguovynN950?si=SbkLbNGKpfGPh1Ku
First trailer for Squid Game: The Challenge, coming to Netflix on November 22nd.
-Marc.
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https://youtu.be/LguovynN950?si=SbkLbNGKpfGPh1Ku
First trailer for Squid Game: The Challenge, coming to Netflix on November 22nd.
-Marc.
Ehhhh. I thought this was a second season or something and was curious why they were speaking English. Then noticed it was just a reality TV version. Pass for me.
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https://youtu.be/LguovynN950?si=SbkLbNGKpfGPh1Ku
First trailer for Squid Game: The Challenge, coming to Netflix on November 22nd.
-Marc.
Ehhhh. I thought this was a second season or something and was curious why they were speaking English. Then noticed it was just a reality TV version. Pass for me.
[Black humour]
Well, if people can actually die, it's not a pass for me, I'll watch.
[/Black humour]
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https://youtu.be/LguovynN950?si=SbkLbNGKpfGPh1Ku
First trailer for Squid Game: The Challenge, coming to Netflix on November 22nd.
-Marc.
Ehhhh. I thought this was a second season or something and was curious why they were speaking English. Then noticed it was just a reality TV version. Pass for me.
[Black humour]
Well, if people can actually die, it's not a pass for me, I'll watch.
[/Black humour]
Ironically, the American version probably won't feature guns or mass murder.
-Marc.
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https://youtu.be/LguovynN950?si=SbkLbNGKpfGPh1Ku
First trailer for Squid Game: The Challenge, coming to Netflix on November 22nd.
-Marc.
Ehhhh. I thought this was a second season or something and was curious why they were speaking English. Then noticed it was just a reality TV version. Pass for me.
Try Alice in Borderland. Two seasons on Netflix comparable with Squid Games, very enjoyable.
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https://youtu.be/LguovynN950?si=SbkLbNGKpfGPh1Ku
First trailer for Squid Game: The Challenge, coming to Netflix on November 22nd.
-Marc.
That's just an awful idea. No other way to see it. However, since you can't actually kill them like they did in the original, maybe we could deport these morons. That would actually make the whole thing worth while. Use tranquilizer darts instead of bullets and dump them off in Sierra Leone before they come to.
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https://youtu.be/LguovynN950?si=SbkLbNGKpfGPh1Ku
First trailer for Squid Game: The Challenge, coming to Netflix on November 22nd.
-Marc.
(https://i.imgur.com/vFkXzZP.png)
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This seems to be one of those heavily scripted reality shows, filled with obnoxious people.