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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: DragonAttack on September 27, 2021, 12:07:02 PM
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As a DT Staff member, I was just contacted, and told that the tour has been pushed back until February/March.
My wife and I were heading to DC next weekend to reserve a place for an 'unofficial' gathering for their November show at The Warriner Theater.
Frick!
EDIT: I see the post below, and the linked thread. Thank you. I posted this because I didn't see that, as it was 'buried' in another.
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OK - this needs to be official but I won't be surprised if this is the case.
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Oh that would make me so happy.
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People were talking about it here:
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56664.msg2813845#msg2813845
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It's the prudent thing to do. However, at some point in the future, bands have to start generating revenue.
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I'm bummed but understand this decision. I just don't see how Feb will be any better than Oct/Nov. Hopefully I'm wrong and it doesn't get postponed again.
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Sign of the times.
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That's too bad :-[ :-[
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So long as they don't reschedule the Red Bank, NJ date for April 7th, I'm good with this.
DanLore
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Sign of the times.
You mean that everything has gone to shit? Agree
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Sucks, but at least I can digest the album more and can learn the lyrics and sing along at the show, rather than only listening to the album for a week until the show.
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So glad I didn't buy tickets, I had a feeling this was inevitable.
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Bummer, I was hoping they'd pull it off. I saw Incubus in Raleigh a few weeks ago and they were doing mandatory vaccine card or negative covid proof for entry.
I got a really amazing seat for this show so I'm going to hold out hope that when the reschedule it I can still make it.
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Im just gonna say my piece then drop it because I’m pissed...
4 Tickets to venue in Brooklyn bought... 4th row dead center.... well over 400 bucks
Airline tickets and parking for a week at DFW since I’m staying up there with my daughter which will or would be her first DT show...another 150 bucks...
A hotel room for one night near DFW because I’m driving from Oklahoma to DFW for my flights coming and going..another 75 bucks...
DREAM THEATER...NOTHING IS CHANGING IN 3+months... venues are open..tours are happening now
Stadiums and arenas are open...WHY ANNOUNCE A TOUR AT ALL THEN CANCEL IN BARELY OVER A MONTH LATER..
THERE HAS TO BE MORE TO THIS..LOW TICKET SALES IS MY GUESS..
ANYWAY..I HAVE VENTED..WILL PROBABLY GO THRU ALL THIS SHIT AGAIN IN FEB OR MARCH
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I'm bummed but understand this decision. I just don't see how Feb will be any better than Oct/Nov. Hopefully I'm wrong and it doesn't get postponed again.
I agree. Might was well wait until 2023.
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My only question is what happens if the rescheduled date is something I can't make? If I don't get a no questions asked 100% refund (including all fees), I'm gonna be PISSED.
PG asked this in the other thread. I just got an email saying the refund window will open once the new dates are announced or in 60 days if no new dates are scheduled.
Please note that at this time, while the Event Organizer is working to try and reschedule your event, they are not currently allowing refunds; however, refunds will be made available in the future. Future refund options are as follows:
If 60 days have passed since a show was postponed and no rescheduled dates have been announced, the 30-day window for refunds will open at that time. You will be able to request a refund via your Live Nation Account.
If, during this 60-day postponement window, your event is rescheduled, a 30-day window for refunds will also be made available.
If the event is canceled (at any time), refunds (as well as a possible credit option) will be available.
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My only question is what happens if the rescheduled date is something I can't make? If I don't get a no questions asked 100% refund (including all fees), I'm gonna be PISSED.
PG asked this in the other thread. I just got an email saying the refund window will open once the new dates are announced or in 60 days if no new dates are scheduled.
Please note that at this time, while the Event Organizer is working to try and reschedule your event, they are not currently allowing refunds; however, refunds will be made available in the future. Future refund options are as follows:
If 60 days have passed since a show was postponed and no rescheduled dates have been announced, the 30-day window for refunds will open at that time. You will be able to request a refund via your Live Nation Account.
If, during this 60-day postponement window, your event is rescheduled, a 30-day window for refunds will also be made available.
If the event is canceled (at any time), refunds (as well as a possible credit option) will be available.
I got my tickets for the LA show through AXS, so I haven't gotten any email yet. I'm fine waiting. I just want the same seat at the same venue (or a comparable Orange County venue, which they probably should have done in the first place) on the same day of the weak. I guess I'll wait and see (although I'm probably still in the window to file a dispute with my credit card, but I'm not gonna do that).
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Do they really expect things to be different in February?
I'm really pissed/bummed. Mostly bummed.
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Bummer, but this can't be surprising. I have to think that buying tickets for any concert any time soon should be a "buyer beware" situation.
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Wow, glad I checked. I haven’t gotten any kind of official email from anyone which is pretty disappointing. I guess in some small way I’m relieved though because I was really starting to get worried about how it would work out.
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I got my tickets for the LA show through AXS, so I haven't gotten any email yet. I'm fine waiting. I just want the same seat at the same venue (or a comparable Orange County venue, which they probably should have done in the first place) on the same day of the weak. I guess I'll wait and see (although I'm probably still in the window to file a dispute with my credit card, but I'm not gonna do that).
Sadly, there is no comparable venue in the OC the size of Microsoft Theater. However, they have played City National Grove of Anaheim a few times. Holds about 1,700 people. Although, I hear in the future, years from now, there's going to be a expansion of buildings next to the Honda Center (basically a LA Live area in the area near the Honda Center and Angels Stadium) that's going to include a 6,000 seat capacity theater. That's a long while from now though.
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purely selfish on my part, but I am hoping that this makes it easier for me to see them next year...the date they had in my city was awful for me, so I wasn't planning on going.
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purely selfish on my part, but I am hoping that this makes it easier for me to see them next year...the date they had in my city was awful for me, so I wasn't planning on going.
Kind of same here, because the Ottawa show was already cancelled previously, so hopefully this means they xan make it in Feb/March.
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Fingers crossed Arch Echo can't do the new dates and we get an evening with DT.
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So glad I didn't buy tickets, I had a feeling this was inevitable.
Same here. I had a discussion with my kids about it, since they always accompany me to DT shows, and we all felt the same way.
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Im just gonna say my piece then drop it because I’m pissed...
4 Tickets to venue in Brooklyn bought... 4th row dead center.... well over 400 bucks
Airline tickets and parking for a week at DFW since I’m staying up there with my daughter which will or would be her first DT show...another 150 bucks...
A hotel room for one night near DFW because I’m driving from Oklahoma to DFW for my flights coming and going..another 75 bucks...
DREAM THEATER...NOTHING IS CHANGING IN 3+months... venues are open..tours are happening now
Stadiums and arenas are open...WHY ANNOUNCE A TOUR AT ALL THEN CANCEL IN BARELY OVER A MONTH LATER..
THERE HAS TO BE MORE TO THIS..LOW TICKET SALES IS MY GUESS..
ANYWAY..I HAVE VENTED..WILL PROBABLY GO THRU ALL THIS SHIT AGAIN IN FEB OR MARCH
I hear ya man! I don't see anything changing by February and it will probably get postponed again. I bet you're right about ticket sales too. Many people are reluctant to by tickets out of fear of the virus, plus DTs new album has had very little time to be promoted. If bands keep waiting and waiting, they will never get back to playing live. The situation in the world is not going to change anytime soon.
I'm sure it's a combination of the band concerned for public safety, but also lack of ticket sales play a big role in this decision.
It's funny how Styx and REO Speedwagon just came through my area and played a sold out show. Everything went fine.. :chill
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I think these "smaller" bands have more financial risk than the more popular pop groups.
They should just do a virtual show and charge money. I'd buy it. There are ways to generate money.
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It's funny how Styx and REO Speedwagon just came through my area and played a sold out show. Everything went fine.. :chill
I've seen 20 concerts since June when things opened back up. While there's no doubt covid is still around and giving some tours issues with postponements or cancellations when positive cases pop up, for the most part, the shows are happening and people aren't getting sick in large numbers or anything especially because all the indoor shows require proof of vaccination or negative test.
The press release specifically states "varying local mandates" which makes me think this is the reason, not covid/illness in general. This could mean a few things, maybe the band is uncomfortable playing in states where there is no requirement to show proof of vaccination. Or maybe the band doesn't want to play shows where it is required. Maybe a member or members of the band are not vaccinated themselves. Some bands have mentioned both ends of the spectrum for reasons not to perform. I'd imagine DT doesn't want to let any more details out to potentially divide their fan base.
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I also wonder if the supply chain problems have anything to do with it. Our business is increasingly having disruptions in getting products. From the top of the chain all the way down to shipping and delivery. There is no guarantee anymore by FedEx or UPS, even with the Next day air shipments. We have products that get lost all the time. And our suppliers keep pushing out available dates further and further back. Do they have merch to sell? I don't know if it is a thing, I saw Styx and and Megadeth and they had merch. But DT doesn't seem like it has much now if you go to their store, so maybe they don't keep as much stock as other bands.
Just some thoughts on that.
I am not mad, even though I had tickets for 3 shows, all of which were out of town. One thing about this covid era, is there lots of varied takes. I understand this and am going to make the best of whatever. Trying not to judge to harshly one way or the other. That would separate me from people, and that would be the biggest bummer.
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I am not mad, even though I had tickets for 3 shows, all of which were out of town. One thing about this covid era, is there lots of varied takes. I understand this and am going to make the best of whatever. Trying not to judge to harshly one way or the other. That would separate me from people, and that would be the biggest bummer.
Exactly. I can guarantee that nobody in the band's organization is happy about the decision to postpone. It sucks that there is a delay, and that there are lots of inconveniences this will cause for a lot of people. But it is what it is. I'm not going to criticize a band that so clearly cares about their fanbase. They think this is the best decision, all things considered, so I will respect that.
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I just read this and wonder if maybe there actually is hope that things are better come February
https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-fda-chief-predicts-delta-142409469.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-fda-chief-predicts-delta-142409469.html)
Gottlieb's predictions are in line with a new model of the virus' spread from a group of North American university researchers. Their model predicts that the number of new cases per day will steadily drop from 117,000, the current average, to just 9,000 per day by March 2022.
Side note:
I'm keeping my ticket since it's a front row seat in Red Bank
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Fingers crossed Arch Echo can't do the new dates and we get an evening with DT.
Nah. Arch Echo is just that good and deserve more exposure. They're one of the few modern instrumental bands that has a stern focus on melody. And not just groove, rhythm, odd time, and odd structures.
It's a bit odd for me to explain, but I hear that same focus on melody and tone in their guitar sounds as I do with JP's guitar tone. The one song that highlights this for me from Arch Echo is "Measure of A Life".
For some reason, that song has the same impact as the intro to TCOT and it's ending Acoustic Guitar chords. And the solo in ITPoE. PT.1...Almost forgot about the intro solo in The Alien.
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It's funny how Styx and REO Speedwagon just came through my area and played a sold out show. Everything went fine.. :chill
I've seen 20 concerts since June when things opened back up. While there's no doubt covid is still around and giving some tours issues with postponements or cancellations when positive cases pop up, for the most part, the shows are happening and people aren't getting sick in large numbers or anything especially because all the indoor shows require proof of vaccination or negative test.
The press release specifically states "varying local mandates" which makes me think this is the reason, not covid/illness in general. This could mean a few things, maybe the band is uncomfortable playing in states where there is no requirement to show proof of vaccination. Or maybe the band doesn't want to play shows where it is required. Maybe a member or members of the band are not vaccinated themselves. Some bands have mentioned both ends of the spectrum for reasons not to perform. I'd imagine DT doesn't want to let any more details out to potentially divide their fan base.
You know how people are mentioning low ticket sales. It's not just because people are worried about Covid. Could also be tickets are not selling well because of the vaccine mandates for the venues and it just so happens these two issues combined generated unacceptabley low ticket sales.
I am not mad, even though I had tickets for 3 shows, all of which were out of town. One thing about this covid era, is there lots of varied takes. I understand this and am going to make the best of whatever. Trying not to judge to harshly one way or the other. That would separate me from people, and that would be the biggest bummer.
Exactly. I can guarantee that nobody in the band's organization is happy about the decision to postpone. It sucks that there is a delay, and that there are lots of inconveniences this will cause for a lot of people. But it is what it is. I'm not going to criticize a band that so clearly cares about their fanbase. They think this is the best decision, all things considered, so I will respect that.
Looking on the bright side. It gives me more time to digest and listen to the album. I was attending the first show in Mesa AZ. Which does not have a mask mandate or vaccine mandate either. I looked specifically if they were doing that or requiring a negative test, and all they asked is to kindly mask up.
Now, I am bit bummed out that this might not be the first show of the tour anymore.
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Even if Archo Echo can't do the new dates, I'd be totally cool if they still brought a worthy opener. I know a lot of DT fans might not like that, but I think it's great for the band and the genre to have bands tour together to bring in new fans.
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Fingers crossed Arch Echo can't do the new dates and we get an evening with DT.
Nah. Arch Echo is just that good and deserve more exposure. They're one of the few modern instrumental bands that has a stern focus on melody. And not just groove, rhythm, odd time, and odd structures.
It's a bit odd for me to explain, but I hear that same focus on melody and tone in their guitar sounds as I do with JP's guitar tone. The one song that highlights this for me from Arch Echo is "Measure of A Life".
For some reason, that song has the same impact as the intro to TCOT and it's ending Acoustic Guitar chords. And the solo in ITPoE. PT.1...Almost forgot about the intro solo in The Alien.
Same here. Love AE.
Don't think they will bail out of the DT support act. a) it's a MASSIVE opportunity for them and b) all of the Arch Echo members are posting about the tour postponement and "see you in Feb" messages.
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I got an email from Ticketmaster saying my event has been cancelled (San Diego show) and that I'll automatically be receiving a refund. DT's press release however, states all shows are being rescheduled and to hold on to your tickets - so not sure what's going on - I have good seats too, so hoping it would be rescheduled and I could just use these tickets...I'm sure they're still working on it, but this is causing confusion for sure.
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People were talking about it here:
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56664.msg2813845#msg2813845
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Given the number of shows I have seen this summer, I see no reason for this. But Oh well, I'll be there when they finally do come around.
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I just read this and wonder if maybe there actually is hope that things are better come February
https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-fda-chief-predicts-delta-142409469.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-fda-chief-predicts-delta-142409469.html)
Gottlieb's predictions are in line with a new model of the virus' spread from a group of North American university researchers. Their model predicts that the number of new cases per day will steadily drop from 117,000, the current average, to just 9,000 per day by March 2022.
Side note:
I'm keeping my ticket since it's a front row seat in Red Bank
me too. Front row in Oakland, 3rd row in Denver, 6th row in Houston.
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I just read this and wonder if maybe there actually is hope that things are better come February
https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-fda-chief-predicts-delta-142409469.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-fda-chief-predicts-delta-142409469.html)
Gottlieb's predictions are in line with a new model of the virus' spread from a group of North American university researchers. Their model predicts that the number of new cases per day will steadily drop from 117,000, the current average, to just 9,000 per day by March 2022.
Side note:
I'm keeping my ticket since it's a front row seat in Red Bank
me too. Front row in Oakland, 3rd row in Denver, 6th row in Houston.
I wouldn't mind if Oakland got moved to Reno. :biggrin:
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The press release specifically states "varying local mandates" which makes me think this is the reason, not covid/illness in general. This could mean a few things, maybe the band is uncomfortable playing in states where there is no requirement to show proof of vaccination. Or maybe the band doesn't want to play shows where it is required. Maybe a member or members of the band are not vaccinated themselves. Some bands have mentioned both ends of the spectrum for reasons not to perform. I'd imagine DT doesn't want to let any more details out to potentially divide their fan base.
Agreed
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I can't really get into AE. They're alright. If we're stuck with an opening act then they're a fine one. But I'd much rather have none. Why even have an opening act? Idk. Maybe I'm the only one feeling this way.
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I just read this and wonder if maybe there actually is hope that things are better come February
https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-fda-chief-predicts-delta-142409469.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-fda-chief-predicts-delta-142409469.html)
Gottlieb's predictions are in line with a new model of the virus' spread from a group of North American university researchers. Their model predicts that the number of new cases per day will steadily drop from 117,000, the current average, to just 9,000 per day by March 2022.
Side note:
I'm keeping my ticket since it's a front row seat in Red Bank
me too. Front row in Oakland, 3rd row in Denver, 6th row in Houston.
I wouldn't mind if Oakland got moved to Reno. :biggrin:
That would solve some problems, but I dont think I will ever get center front row again.... (I have to say my best concert day Ever, was the last show we saw in Reno - from hosting the official pre-show meet-up, to me giving the band-signed banner from that meet-up to someone I met there that I am sure doesn't get much cool stuff like that, to of course the show, and then the after show...all with my son :heart)
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I can't really get into AE. They're alright. If we're stuck with an opening act then they're a fine one. But I'd much rather have none. Why even have an opening act? Idk. Maybe I'm the only one feeling this way.
I agree, but when you consider they did like 3 solo tours in a row, it'll be a good breather for them not to play for 2-3 hours every single night.
Sucks for the fans, sure, but it's good for them and it's good for Arch Echo
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I can't really get into AE. They're alright. If we're stuck with an opening act then they're a fine one. But I'd much rather have none. Why even have an opening act? Idk. Maybe I'm the only one feeling this way.
Nope, I feel this way. I have only been a fan for 5 years - I don't want to share concert time. But, it is what it is, and at this point, I am grateful for any concert!!
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I got an email from Ticketmaster saying my event has been cancelled (San Diego show) and that I'll automatically be receiving a refund. DT's press release however, states all shows are being rescheduled and to hold on to your tickets - so not sure what's going on - I have good seats too, so hoping it would be rescheduled and I could just use these tickets...I'm sure they're still working on it, but this is causing confusion for sure.
Mine said to hold on to your tickets while the dates are rescheduled as well as the refund process if you decide to ask for one. Maybe SD is not on the new rescheduled dates?
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I got an email from Ticketmaster saying my event has been cancelled (San Diego show) and that I'll automatically be receiving a refund. DT's press release however, states all shows are being rescheduled and to hold on to your tickets - so not sure what's going on - I have good seats too, so hoping it would be rescheduled and I could just use these tickets...I'm sure they're still working on it, but this is causing confusion for sure.
Mine said to hold on to your tickets while the dates are rescheduled as well as the refund process if you decide to ask for one. Maybe SD is not on the new rescheduled dates?
Not sure I hope SD will be rescheduled. The DT press release definitely states that ALL shows will be rescheduled. Maybe it will be a change of venue?
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I'm definitely holding on to my tickets. I got front row balcony almost centered but a little towards JP's side, at the Paramount theater in Seattle.
I'll have to admit that I'm a bit disappointed, but not at the band as they are disappointed too. I've just been kind of down in the dumps lately with the pressures of daily life and was really looking forward to a nice escape in early November. Now we have to wait four months or more.
Same thing happened with the NMB, but holding on to those tickets too. :chill
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$#it happens ! I’m just hoping the rescheduled date for Orlando is anything but Feb 10,2022 ! Planning on getting Tix for Tool in Miami for that night …
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Nothing from Ticketbastard for the Charlotte NC show... I'll hold the tix as they're great seats and I love the venue.
Bummed for certain, but I understand. Would they be having issues getting JLB into the country? Just thinking out loud....
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Well, I suppose European tour will be postponed as well? If so, f*** it. I won't be able to go to another show.
B.Lee
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Nothing from Ticketbastard for the Charlotte NC show... I'll hold the tix as they're great seats and I love the venue.
Bummed for certain, but I understand. Would they be having issues getting JLB into the country? Just thinking out loud....
I haven't gotten any email about the Red Bank show.
As for JLB, isn't (or wasn't) he already in the country to work on the album. I think Canadians don't have an issue getting into the US for business. Unleash the Archers (from Canada) are just wrapping up their NA tour. They did have an issue getting into the US, but their problem was they played a show in Belgium, went back to Canada, then tried to get into the US and that was a no no so they had to wait an extra week even with showing negative tests and vaccinations.
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Hoping this will not delay the album as well :-\
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Hoping this will not delay the album as well :-\
I don't see any reason why it would. The album is done, in production, and ready to ship in a few weeks.
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Fingers crossed Arch Echo can't do the new dates and we get an evening with DT.
Nah. Arch Echo is just that good and deserve more exposure. They're one of the few modern instrumental bands that has a stern focus on melody. And not just groove, rhythm, odd time, and odd structures.
It's a bit odd for me to explain, but I hear that same focus on melody and tone in their guitar sounds as I do with JP's guitar tone. The one song that highlights this for me from Arch Echo is "Measure of A Life".
For some reason, that song has the same impact as the intro to TCOT and it's ending Acoustic Guitar chords. And the solo in ITPoE. PT.1...Almost forgot about the intro solo in The Alien.
Same here. Love AE.
Don't think they will bail out of the DT support act. a) it's a MASSIVE opportunity for them and b) all of the Arch Echo members are posting about the tour postponement and "see you in Feb" messages.
Yup. Arch Echo are not that big of a band to have a schedule that spans at least 5 years out. Which is a major reason why a lot of bands also released new music, as those bands with a 5 year outlook schedule suddenly became free to record again.
I am sure the Arch Echo guys were especially bummed, and honestly, I feel they are the ones who can be most upset at it, because of them sharing the stage with one of their influences, the exposure, and what that would bring.
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Symphony X are going to start touring next Summer which is more realistic than DT most likely having to postpone it again in February. An all around crap situation.
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This on top of finding out Judas Priest postponing their tour due to Richie Faulkner having some issues with his heart. I hope he's all right, but one potentially disappointing thing is that if JP come back next year (likely in the summer since it is an outdoor venue), they won't have Sabaton, and I was really looking forward to seeing Sabaton in something bigger than a club or theater. That certainly isn't something we here in the US are going to get on a regular basis, especially in the south.
Nonetheless, next year looks to be an awesome one for shows if things don't keep getting postponed--Dream Theater, Judas Priest, Roger Waters, Motley Crue/Def Leppard and other shows I've been waiting for.
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The only emails I've gotten from Ticketmaster is advertising for more fucking concerts. :lol
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Symphony X are going to start touring next Summer which is more realistic than DT most likely having to postpone it again in February. An all around crap situation.
Are they writing an album?
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The only thing I can think of is how a lot of the concerts that have gone on this year to date have been rescheduled shows dating from last year, taking place in open air stadiums and amphitheaters or tiny little clubs. Perhaps the insurance requirements for newly-booked shows are different from the rescheduled shows and nobody wants to be on the hook for it. Also, for bands going out on tour, if something happens and the tour has to be postponed or cancelled, the bands still have to pay the crews and for any buses they had booked for travel. If that band isn't in the top tier or 2 of bands, it could get financially devestated. That's not me sh*tting on DT (I love the band), just being realistic.
As for Covid playing a part in poor ticket sales... It's definitely a possibility. Different bands seem to have been affected in varying degrees. The rescheduled Black Crowes show I went to a few weeks ago was like half-full. Four days later at the same venue, you couldn't find an open seat at the rescheduled Dave Matthews Band show. I'm only guessing that DT would fall more into the Black Crowes scenario and not DMB.
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Symphony X are going to start touring next Summer which is more realistic than DT most likely having to postpone it again in February. An all around crap situation.
Are they writing an album?
Mike is ALWAYS writing ;)
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Love the sx guys. They're never in a rush to put out new albums, def less of a one after another thing than DT. It's always been dt and sx for me!
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Symphony X are going to start touring next Summer which is more realistic than DT most likely having to postpone it again in February. An all around crap situation.
Are they writing an album?
Mike is ALWAYS writing ;)
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Listened to Pawn And Prophecy today at work! :metal
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Symphony X are going to start touring next Summer which is more realistic than DT most likely having to postpone it again in February. An all around crap situation.
Are they writing an album?
Mike is ALWAYS writing ;)
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Listened to Pawn And Prophecy today at work! :metal
War of The Worlds pt.2 coming soon!!!!
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Symphony X are going to start touring next Summer which is more realistic than DT most likely having to postpone it again in February. An all around crap situation.
Are they writing an album?
Mike is ALWAYS writing ;)
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Listened to Pawn And Prophecy today at work! :metal
War of The Worlds pt.2 coming soon!!!!
Give me Lepond over Tolkki Romero.
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Symphony X are going to start touring next Summer which is more realistic than DT most likely having to postpone it again in February. An all around crap situation.
Are they writing an album?
Mike is ALWAYS writing ;)
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Listened to Pawn And Prophecy today at work! :metal
This album fucking rips!
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Symphony X are going to start touring next Summer which is more realistic than DT most likely having to postpone it again in February. An all around crap situation.
Are they writing an album?
Mike is ALWAYS writing ;)
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Listened to Pawn And Prophecy today at work! :metal
War of The Worlds pt.2 coming soon!!!!
Give me Lepond over Tolkki Romero.
I do like the Everdawn album!
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Symphony X are going to start touring next Summer which is more realistic than DT most likely having to postpone it again in February. An all around crap situation.
Are they writing an album?
Mike is ALWAYS writing ;)
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Listened to Pawn And Prophecy today at work! :metal
War of The Worlds pt.2 coming soon!!!!
Mike Lepond and Michael Romeo are both writing all the time. Lepond has put out three great metal albums (Silent Assassins :metal) since SX last release, and Michael Romeo helped him produce them. Romeo's solo album is great too! :metal
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Checking out lepond. Nothing modern about it! In the best way possible. Just raw prog metal. Never any bs with the sx guys... Cuz they're from jersey!!
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Symphony X are going to start touring next Summer which is more realistic than DT most likely having to postpone it again in February. An all around crap situation.
There's that one NYC show that leaked with SX and Haken in May.
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Gonna buy tickets to that one later today. Always a great show, even if they tend to play the same stuff
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Hope the band announces the rescheduled dates before the end of October, otherwise it will be tricky rebooking my hotel in San Diego.
Also, Ticketmaster emailed me that my purchases were refunded, pending funds being returned by the band in 30 days. Since the band is planning on honoring tickets for a later date, I presume that DT will not reimburse Ticketmaster, and thus the refund notice I received will not take effect.
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I don't think "the band" has the ticket money. That isn't usually how it works.
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Yeah, that's kind of odd, is that the actual wording?
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I received the same email about the San Diego show. Here is the exact wording -
Your Event Has Been Canceled
A refund will be on its way to your account soon.
Unfortunately, the Event Organizer has had to cancel your event.
Dream Theater
San Diego Civic Theatre
The good news is that no action is required to obtain a refund. It will be processed to the original method of payment used at time of purchase, once funds are received from the Event Organizer, which is usually completed within 30 days.
Please Note: If the tickets were transferred to you, the refund will go to the fan who originally purchased the tickets from Ticketmaster.
Please see our Purchase Policy for more information.
Thanks for your patience and understanding. We look forward to gathering and celebrating the live experience together again.
–Ticketmaster Fan Support
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Symphony X are going to start touring next Summer which is more realistic than DT most likely having to postpone it again in February. An all around crap situation.
There's that one NYC show that leaked with SX and Haken in May.
Yea, just saw that. That will be a MUST attend!
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I received the same email about the San Diego show. Here is the exact wording -
Your Event Has Been Canceled
A refund will be on its way to your account soon.
Unfortunately, the Event Organizer has had to cancel your event.
Dream Theater
San Diego Civic Theatre
The good news is that no action is required to obtain a refund. It will be processed to the original method of payment used at time of purchase, once funds are received from the Event Organizer, which is usually completed within 30 days.
Please Note: If the tickets were transferred to you, the refund will go to the fan who originally purchased the tickets from Ticketmaster.
Please see our Purchase Policy for more information.
Thanks for your patience and understanding. We look forward to gathering and celebrating the live experience together again.
–Ticketmaster Fan Support
Yeah, the "event organizer" is not the band.
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Yeah, the "event organizer" is not the band.
Yeah, the email makes more sense than mentioning DT returning funds. But it sucks that it does seem like that concert is actually cancelled not postponed.
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Yeah, the "event organizer" is not the band.
Yeah, the email makes more sense than mentioning DT returning funds. But it sucks that it does seem like that concert is actually cancelled not postponed.
Yes, it's definitely not the band, it's more than likely the promoter, I'm sure. My question is why are we being refunded at all? DT's press release stated ALL shows were being rescheduled, and they're asking that everyone hold on to their tickets. Others have stated they received an email saying to hold on to their tickets. So this is where I'm confused. Is the SD show not being rescheduled? Or maybe they're changing the venue? I'm sure we'll find out soon enough, but like I said earlier, I have really good tickets that I was hoping I could use for the next show..
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The venue in Mesa is not through Ticketmaster. It's through their own website. And apparently no one has notified them as you can still buy tickets.
That explains why I haven't received and email from them.
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I have tickets for 3 shows. 2 venues, Denver and Houston have given me this email:
The Event Organizer is still trying to reschedule your event; if they do, your tickets will remain good for the rescheduled date.
The third is in Oakland. I have not received any notifications and when I go on the Fox Theater website, Dream Theater doesn't show postponed. Weird.
Judas Priest does.
Hopefully it all works out.
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I would say give it some time, the tour is not happening as scheduled which we know. Everything else will be known shortly when they are ready to announce it. Hopefully they were honest about no shows being cancelled, but if it happens, and it sucks, it's not that shocking as rescheduling a tour rarely means all locations stay the same. I'd be pissed if Red Bank didn't happen, but there's always that possibility... and I haven't received any notification from ticketmaster.
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Finally got my email from ticketmaster tonight.
Dream Theater
Boch Center Wang Theatre
Your Event Has Been Postponed
This is just a heads up — your tickets are still valid.
Hi Tim,
The Event Organizer is still trying to reschedule your event; if they do, your tickets will remain good for the rescheduled date.
Hang on to your tickets — we'll email you as soon as the status of your event changes or the new date is announced.
We understand that you might not be able to make it, so we have worked with the Event Organizer to make sure you have options: you can keep your tickets for the event (which remain valid), or you can request a refund. These options will be available until the Event Organizer either cancels or reschedules the event, at which point you will receive a new communication about the status of your order. You can check your Ticketmaster Account at any time for the most updated status for your event.
Once you've selected the option of a refund, it's final and cannot be changed.
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These emails make the "Event Organizer" sound like some omniscient, omnipotent, entity. He/she will decide what happens to your concert and your ticket, and you will like it!
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Yeah, sorry, shouldn't have said "the band." I was just referring loosely to the email notice and I recalled that someone other than Ticketmaster needs to give the money back to Ticketmaster in order for the refunds to be processed. So in that sense and in my recollection, event organizer and the band were one in the same, even though that's not technically accurate. My point of the post was that I hope they announce the revised dates sooner rather than later.
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Yeah, the "event organizer" is not the band.
Yeah, the email makes more sense than mentioning DT returning funds. But it sucks that it does seem like that concert is actually cancelled not postponed.
Yes, it's definitely not the band, it's more than likely the promoter, I'm sure. My question is why are we being refunded at all? DT's press release stated ALL shows were being rescheduled, and they're asking that everyone hold on to their tickets. Others have stated they received an email saying to hold on to their tickets. So this is where I'm confused. Is the SD show not being rescheduled? Or maybe they're changing the venue? I'm sure we'll find out soon enough, but like I said earlier, I have really good tickets that I was hoping I could use for the next show..
Good question for sure. And I agree, I have front row center tickets for SD. Could be tricky to get that lucky again.
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I do wish that refunds had at least been an option with rescheduled dates. That only seems fair to me I bought the tickets for the date I did because I have nothing planned that day. I have no idea whether I will be able to make the rescheduled date. Oh well, hopefully it works out.
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I do wish that refunds had at least been an option with rescheduled dates. That only seems fair to me I bought the tickets for the date I did because I have nothing planned that day. I have no idea whether I will be able to make the rescheduled date. Oh well, hopefully it works out.
The email I received from Live Nation said that refunds will be available once the new dates are announced (Or after 60 days if no new dates are announced).
I am counting on that since depending on the new dates, I will go to a different venue (2 hour drive vs. 30 min drive makes a big difference).
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I am sure that they are postponing the tour in general, but there may be certain venues for which that's not possible.
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I do wish that refunds had at least been an option with rescheduled dates. That only seems fair to me I bought the tickets for the date I did because I have nothing planned that day. I have no idea whether I will be able to make the rescheduled date. Oh well, hopefully it works out.
The email I received from Live Nation said that refunds will be available once the new dates are announced (Or after 60 days if no new dates are announced).
I am counting on that since depending on the new dates, I will go to a different venue (2 hour drive vs. 30 min drive makes a big difference).
Yeah it’s weird how the emails wording varies from event to event. Mine specifically says the “event organizer” (whoever that is) is not allowing refunds at this time and to hols on to my tickets.
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It just seems like everything was rushed (announcing a tour probably prematurely then postponing it the following month). I understand these are extraordinary times, so I don't fault the band. It's just an unfortunate situation all around. I still don't see how Feb will be any better than Oct though. Around here, at least, case rates are going down now - who knows what it will be like in Feb
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It just seems like everything was rushed (announcing a tour probably prematurely then postponing it the following month). I understand these are extraordinary times, so I don't fault the band. It's just an unfortunate situation all around. I still don't see how Feb will be any better than Oct though. Around here, at least, case rates are going down now - who knows what it will be like in Feb
Maybe they're just hoping more people will buy tickets next year. Down here the sales were horrendous, and I get the impression it was that way elsewhere.
February is shaping up to be rather interesting next year. Seems like that's when everybody's rescheduling.
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Sales were awful here. I posted a screenshot of the venue's available seats a few weeks ago.
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The Ticketmaster website does show that some of the shows have been marked cancelled with a red banner. My show is still a go and the ticket sales look pretty good. We'll see.
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Has anyone received anything about the Los Angeles show yet? I haven't seen anything.
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When are the new dates supposed to be announced? This is really ridiculous! >:( :censored
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When are the new dates supposed to be announced?
:soon:
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Sales were awful here. I posted a screenshot of the venue's available seats a few weeks ago.
The real question is were the sales based on covid fears or lack of Ovaltine consumption? Also, Consider the fact that Temple Balls are fully vaccinated and hung like pack mules.
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Sales were awful here. I posted a screenshot of the venue's available seats a few weeks ago.
The real question is were the sales based on covid fears or lack of Ovaltine consumption? Also, Consider the fact that Temple Balls are fully vaccinated and hung like pack mules.
Temple Of The Ovaltine!!
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Sales were awful here. I posted a screenshot of the venue's available seats a few weeks ago.
The real question is were the sales based on covid fears or lack of Ovaltine consumption? Also, Consider the fact that Temple Balls are fully vaccinated and hung like pack mules.
Temple Of The Ovaltine!!
I'm stealing that response. :lol :lol :lol
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When are the new dates supposed to be announced? This is really ridiculous! >:( :censored
You realize that there is still a pandemic going on, right? ;)
I would stress patience. This is not easy for anybody, and trying to reschedule these dates and get all of their ducks in a row cannot be easy.
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Most postponements I've seen have been announced within a couple weeks. I'd give it another week before I'd start wondering about when the band is going to communicate more to the people who bought tickets.
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Sales were awful here. I posted a screenshot of the venue's available seats a few weeks ago.
The real question is were the sales based on covid fears or lack of Ovaltine consumption? Also, Consider the fact that Temple Balls are fully vaccinated and hung like pack mules.
Temple Of The Ovaltine!!
Since the pills are round, shouldn't it be called "Roundtine" ? 🤪
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Well, nominally sure. But with various mask/vaccine/neg test mandates (which I am certain could be a pain to navigate for an industry that tours across the nation/globe), pretty much everything appears open for business. It seems like cram goes to a concert every 48 hours. How are so many other events taking place but this tour cannot?
Since the pills are round, shouldn't it be called "Roundtine" ? 🤪
Bravo, sir.
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Finally got the email from the Mesa Arts Center box office that was just a copy of the statement by the band.
It's postponed, hold on to your tickets, and hit up the venue for a refund.
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So, are we ever gonna get the new dates?
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Sales were awful here. I posted a screenshot of the venue's available seats a few weeks ago.
The real question is were the sales based on covid fears or lack of Ovaltine consumption? Also, Consider the fact that Temple Balls are fully vaccinated and hung like pack mules.
Temple Of The Ovaltine!!
Since the pills are round, shouldn't it be called "Roundtine" ? 🤪
You think you can give me a hand with my material?!
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So, are we ever gonna get the new dates?
Or some sort of communication? I don't think I have even gotten an email that my date (Red Bank) was postponed. Anyone else who's got tickets to Red Bank get any communication? Maybe I just missed it.
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So, are we ever gonna get the new dates?
Or some sort of communication? I don't think I have even gotten an email that my date (Red Bank) was postponed. Anyone else who's got tickets to Red Bank get any communication? Maybe I just missed it.
I still haven't gotten anything about the Los Angeles show.
Honestly, if I weren't here or on Facebook, I wouldn't know about the postponement.
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So, are we ever gonna get the new dates?
Or some sort of communication? I don't think I have even gotten an email that my date (Red Bank) was postponed. Anyone else who's got tickets to Red Bank get any communication? Maybe I just missed it.
Nope. haven't heard a thing. >:( :censored
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So glad I didn't buy tickets, I had a feeling this was inevitable.
That was my reason for holding off on tickets.
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I just think we need to be patient. I'm not ever worried about it. Whether they announce the new shows or not, they're still ages away from happening.
I feel like they'd want this settled by the release date of the album, no?
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I just think we need to be patient. I'm not ever worried about it. Whether they announce the new shows or not, they're still ages away from happening.
I feel like they'd want this settled by the release date of the album, no?
I don’t think anyone knows anything at this point, how could we?. The safe bet would be Spring at the soonest. These unsure times flat out SUCK! Just grateful to have new music still coming out.
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Just grateful to have new music still coming out.
I love new music. Especially Dream Theater new music.
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Oakland was officially postponed yesterday.
The Event Organizer is still trying to reschedule your event; if they do, your tickets will remain good for the rescheduled date.
Hang on to your tickets — we'll email you as soon as the status of your event changes or the new date is announced.
Please Note: Your Event Organizer is not allowing refunds at this time. Event Organizers are constantly assessing the situation and making determinations regarding refunds.
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Oakland was officially postponed yesterday.
The Event Organizer is still trying to reschedule your event; if they do, your tickets will remain good for the rescheduled date.
Hang on to your tickets — we'll email you as soon as the status of your event changes or the new date is announced.
Please Note: Your Event Organizer is not allowing refunds at this time. Event Organizers are constantly assessing the situation and making determinations regarding refunds.
I really hope this one is rescheduled. I have center front row...
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Hey Bosk...
Since the tour is delayed, do you happen to have any information on if JP had a setlist idea in mind already set for the tour?
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So, are we ever gonna get the new dates?
Or some sort of communication? I don't think I have even gotten an email that my date (Red Bank) was postponed. Anyone else who's got tickets to Red Bank get any communication? Maybe I just missed it.
I still haven't gotten anything about the Los Angeles show.
Honestly, if I weren't here or on Facebook, I wouldn't know about the postponement.
Yep, still have nothing on the LA show. The ticket section of my account on AXS says it's still stated to go on 10/30.
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Hey Bosk...
Since the tour is delayed, do you happen to have any information on if JP had a setlist idea in mind already set for the tour?
I would venture to guess pretty confidently that JP had a setlist idea in mind already.
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Hey Bosk...
Since the tour is delayed, do you happen to have any information on if JP had a setlist idea in mind already set for the tour?
I am very confident that they will have had the set list firmed up a few months ago. As far as what it is, I have no idea. I haven't asked.
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Hey Bosk...
Since the tour is delayed, do you happen to have any information on if JP had a setlist idea in mind already set for the tour?
I am very confident that they will have had the set list firmed up a few months ago. As far as what it is, I have no idea. I haven't asked.
And would you have any indication if the new tour dates are coming soon?
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Hey Bosk...
Since the tour is delayed, do you happen to have any information on if JP had a setlist idea in mind already set for the tour?
I am very confident that they will have had the set list firmed up a few months ago. As far as what it is, I have no idea. I haven't asked.
And would you have any indication if the new tour dates are coming soon?
He doesn't know, he was just responding so he won't get fined.. 😁🏈
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Just as cases are falling like a rock most areas...bummer. Gotta move on folks. It's with us. There are more dangerous things in life than covid that we encounter every day. Look at the football stadiums. It is what it is...cannot live in fear forever. I don't.
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Just as cases are falling like a rock most areas...bummer. Gotta move on folks. It's with us. There are more dangerous things in life than covid that we encounter every day. Look at the football stadiums. It is what it is...cannot live in fear forever. I don't.
I agree with you 100%. I’m glad you had the guts to post it!!!!!
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Just as cases are falling like a rock most areas...bummer. Gotta move on folks. It's with us. There are more dangerous things in life than covid that we encounter every day. Look at the football stadiums. It is what it is...cannot live in fear forever. I don't.
I also 100% agree. Good for you for saying this.
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crazy thought but is it possible some of the band members or crew arent vaccinated?
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Sure, it's possible.
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crazy thought but is it possible some of the band members or crew arent vaccinated?
I believe that at least Petrucci and Myung are not vaxxed. I'd be shocked if they are, especially Petrucci. My guess is they aren't and don't wanna deal with negative test BS for every show.
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crazy thought but is it possible some of the band members or crew arent vaccinated?
I believe that at least Petrucci and Myung are not vaxxed. I'd be shocked if they are, especially Petrucci. My guess is they aren't and don't wanna deal with negative test BS for every show.
What makes you think that? just curious.
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crazy thought but is it possible some of the band members or crew arent vaccinated?
I believe that at least Petrucci and Myung are not vaxxed. I'd be shocked if they are, especially Petrucci. My guess is they aren't and don't wanna deal with negative test BS for every show.
What makes you think that? just curious.
Yes. Where is evidence of this?
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I am not going that far into speculating.
I actually think JP is just completely bummed because that momentum and desire to want to play the new album to people has been stopped. It reminds me of that momentum when MP decided he wanted to take a break from the band, and JP likely felt upset as MP asked just as their wheels were turning at a good pace. The majority of the band agreed with JP, and MP had to either stay or go, the decision was his and he chose to leave.
I see this postponement as the same feeling. Only, this time, the majority of the band disagreed with JP's feelings and thoughts.
I think it's nothing more and nothing less. JP is likely still in his fresh wounds from the disappointment in the decision. So, that emotion would still be more vulnerable to being expressed, as he does sound extremely disappointed based on his tone in that interview.
I am also extremely disappointed. But am looking at bright side for me because I won't have to rush listening through the album, mainly the epic, to fully enjoy them Live.
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Just got the postponement email (finally) from Red bank show. If JP wants to tour, just get JM & call up MP and go out and do some shows for Terminal Velocity! LETS GO!!!!!! :metal
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Just got the postponement email (finally) from Red bank show. If JP wants to tour, just get JM & call up MP and go out and do some shows for Terminal Velocity! LETS GO!!!!!! :metal
Yeah, this is what I have mentioned as well. I'd be all over that.
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crazy thought but is it possible some of the band members or crew arent vaccinated?
I believe that at least Petrucci and Myung are not vaxxed. I'd be shocked if they are, especially Petrucci. My guess is they aren't and don't wanna deal with negative test BS for every show.
This doesn't make any sense. I actually agree in part, I'd bet on JP being unvaxxed, but he's the one that wants to tour. As he said, he was voted down, and he's the one that'd endure the "bullshit."
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Just got the postponement email (finally) from Red bank show. If JP wants to tour, just get JM & call up MP and go out and do some shows for Terminal Velocity! LETS GO!!!!!! :metal
Just got my red bank email as well, interesting that the refund option seems to already be available and open until November 19th even though they don't have the new dates yet. If I had a crap seat, I may go for the refund and the purchase again on the new annoucnement (just in case I can't make it) but since I have front row, I don't want to give it up. I just hope it's not a rare chance the new date doesn't work out for me.
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crazy thought but is it possible some of the band members or crew arent vaccinated?
I believe that at least Petrucci and Myung are not vaxxed. I'd be shocked if they are, especially Petrucci. My guess is they aren't and don't wanna deal with negative test BS for every show.
This doesn't make any sense. I actually agree in part, I'd bet on JP being unvaxxed, but he's the one that wants to tour. As he said, he was voted down, and he's the one that'd endure the "bullshit."
Has JP spoken out against the vaccine or something? Where does this assumption come from?
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crazy thought but is it possible some of the band members or crew arent vaccinated?
I believe that at least Petrucci and Myung are not vaxxed. I'd be shocked if they are, especially Petrucci. My guess is they aren't and don't wanna deal with negative test BS for every show.
This doesn't make any sense. I actually agree in part, I'd bet on JP being unvaxxed, but he's the one that wants to tour. As he said, he was voted down, and he's the one that'd endure the "bullshit."
Has JP spoken out against the vaccine or something? Where does this assumption come from?
It appears JP leans right and I am guessing people are assuming that means he's unvaxxed? I'm not sure, but if he's pushing to tour then it seems likely he is vaxxed, but it's possible he isn't. I'd imagine not being vaxxed makes touring much more difficult and questionable though. Unless maybe that is the reason why the other members don't want to tour... because a member is unvaxxed and means the tour is more likely to get put to a halt from an infection?
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crazy thought but is it possible some of the band members or crew arent vaccinated?
I believe that at least Petrucci and Myung are not vaxxed. I'd be shocked if they are, especially Petrucci. My guess is they aren't and don't wanna deal with negative test BS for every show.
This doesn't make any sense. I actually agree in part, I'd bet on JP being unvaxxed, but he's the one that wants to tour. As he said, he was voted down, and he's the one that'd endure the "bullshit."
Has JP spoken out against the vaccine or something? Where does this assumption come from?
It appears JP leans right and I am guessing people are assuming that means he's unvaxxed? I'm not sure, but if he's pushing to tour then it seems likely he is vaxxed, but it's possible he isn't. I'd imagine not being vaxxed makes touring much more difficult and questionable though. Unless maybe that is the reason why the other members don't want to tour... because a member is unvaxxed and means the tour is more likely to get put to a halt from an infection?
Yeah, it's strictly prejudice on my part. The dude's done a few things that have caused me to not like him, and in conjunction with what we've gleaned from him re his politics, he just strikes me as an anti-vax, "personal responsibility" kind of guy. If I had to guess that's the way I'd go, but it is just a guess.
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crazy thought but is it possible some of the band members or crew arent vaccinated?
I believe that at least Petrucci and Myung are not vaxxed. I'd be shocked if they are, especially Petrucci. My guess is they aren't and don't wanna deal with negative test BS for every show.
This doesn't make any sense. I actually agree in part, I'd bet on JP being unvaxxed, but he's the one that wants to tour. As he said, he was voted down, and he's the one that'd endure the "bullshit."
Was about to say the same thing. Who knows if he's vaxxed or not - but he's the one who really wanted to tour - so that argument makes no sense.
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I just received an email from Ticketmaster, regarding the San Diego show, saying they received the funds from the "Event Organizer" and have refunded my order. Says I should see the funds in 7-10 business days. So I guess the San Diego show is just cancelled. I'm hoping they reschedule it for another venue. I'm now starting to wonder if the tour will take place at all now in Feb/Mar - maybe that's why they haven't announced any new dates - maybe the band is still at odds about whether to tour in the spring or not..
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I just received an email from Ticketmaster, regarding the San Diego show, saying they received the funds from the "Event Organizer" and have refunded my order. Says I should see the funds in 7-10 business days. So I guess the San Diego show is just cancelled. I'm hoping they reschedule it for another venue. I'm now starting to wonder if the tour will take place at all now in Feb/Mar - maybe that's why they haven't announced any new dates - maybe the band is still at odds about whether to tour in the spring or not..
I wonder if the gave some of the promoters the option to opt out of the tour. Maybe the San Diego promoter did just that.
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Still quiet on the Austin show regarding refunds or new date. I got great seats so I just want the rescheduled date to pop up.
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I just received an email from Ticketmaster, regarding the San Diego show, saying they received the funds from the "Event Organizer" and have refunded my order. Says I should see the funds in 7-10 business days. So I guess the San Diego show is just cancelled. I'm hoping they reschedule it for another venue. I'm now starting to wonder if the tour will take place at all now in Feb/Mar - maybe that's why they haven't announced any new dates - maybe the band is still at odds about whether to tour in the spring or not..
I wonder if the gave some of the promoters the option to opt out of the tour. Maybe the San Diego promoter did just that.
It's possible, I wish there was some more communication from the band if that is the case - but the DT press release distinctly said "all shows are being rescheduled" - so who knows.
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I just received an email from Ticketmaster, regarding the San Diego show, saying they received the funds from the "Event Organizer" and have refunded my order. Says I should see the funds in 7-10 business days. So I guess the San Diego show is just cancelled. I'm hoping they reschedule it for another venue. I'm now starting to wonder if the tour will take place at all now in Feb/Mar - maybe that's why they haven't announced any new dates - maybe the band is still at odds about whether to tour in the spring or not..
I wonder if the gave some of the promoters the option to opt out of the tour. Maybe the San Diego promoter did just that.
It's possible, I wish there was some more communication from the band if that is the case - but the DT press release distinctly said "all shows are being rescheduled" - so who knows.
It's not a guarantee though.
There's lots of things that need to be discussed with this decision. Having to basically take the tour schedule and work with all the venues to form a tour pattern that is capable of hitting all the dates. They will likely run into venues having bookings for other bands, to where the band has no choice but to find another venue, either in the same city or different town.
The location of the dates and where they'll start probably won't even be the same either. A new entire tour map has to be redrawn.
So my date could very well end up being the last date of the tour. Now that would suck more :lol
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I have a ticket for a show TEN days from now, and I have gotten ZERO official communication about the postponement/cancelation. Not the band's fault, but this is a lousy way to do business.
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I have a ticket for a show TEN days from now, and I have gotten ZERO official communication about the postponement/cancelation. Not the band's fault, but this is a lousy way to do business.
To your point - I just went to DT's website and it looks like you can still buy tickets to the LA show. I clicked on the link, selected two seats, and was taken to the checkout page. No mention of any postponement/cancellation.
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I have a ticket for a show TEN days from now, and I have gotten ZERO official communication about the postponement/cancelation. Not the band's fault, but this is a lousy way to do business.
To your point - I just went to DT's website and it looks like you can still buy tickets to the LA show. I clicked on the link, selected two seats, and was taken to the checkout page. No mention of any postponement/cancellation.
Man, that’s crazy. Well, I guess people should just show up to the venue at the original date and time just in case a concert happens? Ha.
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I have a ticket for a show TEN days from now, and I have gotten ZERO official communication about the postponement/cancelation. Not the band's fault, but this is a lousy way to do business.
To your point - I just went to DT's website and it looks like you can still buy tickets to the LA show. I clicked on the link, selected two seats, and was taken to the checkout page. No mention of any postponement/cancellation.
That's crazy. For the Mesa show, it says postponed. San Diego: canceled. Oakland: postponed. Portland: bad link. Los Angeles: buy away.
I just sent an email to AXS, so we'll see what response I get.
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I have a ticket for a show TEN days from now, and I have gotten ZERO official communication about the postponement/cancelation. Not the band's fault, but this is a lousy way to do business.
To your point - I just went to DT's website and it looks like you can still buy tickets to the LA show. I clicked on the link, selected two seats, and was taken to the checkout page. No mention of any postponement/cancellation.
That's crazy. For the Mesa show, it says postponed. San Diego: canceled. Oakland: postponed. Portland: bad link. Los Angeles: buy away.
I just sent an email to AXS, so we'll see what response I get.
The lack of consistency is surely adding to the frustration/confusion surrounding this situation.
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Lol I know nothing, JP just strikes me as the kinda guy to avoid the jab. Especially since he's so into working out, and he's so healthy that I see him as the kind of guy to see no point in the vaxx.
Please know that I am only going off of pointless feelings. :)
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Btw, where can I find this JP interview people keep mentioning? Thanks!
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Btw, where can I find this JP interview people keep mentioning? Thanks!
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56915.0
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Btw, where can I find this JP interview people keep mentioning? Thanks!
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56915.0
Thanks man!
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crazy thought but is it possible some of the band members or crew arent vaccinated?
I believe that at least Petrucci and Myung are not vaxxed. I'd be shocked if they are, especially Petrucci. My guess is they aren't and don't wanna deal with negative test BS for every show.
This doesn't make any sense. I actually agree in part, I'd bet on JP being unvaxxed, but he's the one that wants to tour. As he said, he was voted down, and he's the one that'd endure the "bullshit."
I wonder if that's why I didn't see any New York Shitty tour dates listed. The last two (and only times) I saw them was in The Shitty.
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The text of my live chat with an AXS rep regarding the LA show is below.
Paul xxx: I bought a ticket for the Dream Theater concert on October 30, 2021. However, the band has announced that it is postponing its October through December 2021 North American tour dates to early 2022. Fans who have purchased tickets for every other venue on the tour have been officially notified about the postponement and given information about refunds or the tickets being valid for the rescheduled dates. AXS, however, has provided no notice regarding the October 30 date. Since the concert presumably will not be happening in 10 days, please advise what sort of arrangements will be made.
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Sharra B.: Hi how can I help you ?
Paul xxx: I bought a ticket for the Dream Theater concert on October 30, 2021 at the Microsoft Theater in Los Angeles. However, the band has announced that it is postponing its October through December 2021 North American tour dates to early 2022. Fans who have purchased tickets for every other venue on the tour have been officially notified about the postponement and given information about refunds or the tickets being valid for the rescheduled dates. AXS, however, has provided no notice regarding the October 30 date. Since the concert presumably will not be happening in 10 days, please advise what sort of arrangements will be made.
Sharra B.: Hi , you can always submit a refund request and it will be sent to the promoter of the event for approval or denial.
Paul xxx: If I don't want a refund, will my ticket still be good for the rescheduled date?
Sharra B.: Yes sir.
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I don't feel entirely confident that this person had any clue what I was actually asking about.
I almost want to go to LA Live next Saturday because I feel pretty confident that there will be a LOT of folks who will show up expecting a concert and it will be fairly amusing watching what happens.
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^^ Well, I'm going to be there anyway, since the Kings plays the Habs next door (and it's an afternoon game). I might as well roam around the area and see what develops.
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The text of my live chat with an AXS rep regarding the LA show is below.
Paul xxx: I bought a ticket for the Dream Theater concert on October 30, 2021. However, the band has announced that it is postponing its October through December 2021 North American tour dates to early 2022. Fans who have purchased tickets for every other venue on the tour have been officially notified about the postponement and given information about refunds or the tickets being valid for the rescheduled dates. AXS, however, has provided no notice regarding the October 30 date. Since the concert presumably will not be happening in 10 days, please advise what sort of arrangements will be made.
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Sharra B. joined the chat
Sharra B.: Hi how can I help you ?
Paul xxx: I bought a ticket for the Dream Theater concert on October 30, 2021 at the Microsoft Theater in Los Angeles. However, the band has announced that it is postponing its October through December 2021 North American tour dates to early 2022. Fans who have purchased tickets for every other venue on the tour have been officially notified about the postponement and given information about refunds or the tickets being valid for the rescheduled dates. AXS, however, has provided no notice regarding the October 30 date. Since the concert presumably will not be happening in 10 days, please advise what sort of arrangements will be made.
Sharra B.: Hi , you can always submit a refund request and it will be sent to the promoter of the event for approval or denial.
Paul xxx: If I don't want a refund, will my ticket still be good for the rescheduled date?
Sharra B.: Yes sir.
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I don't feel entirely confident that this person had any clue what I was actually asking about.
I almost want to go to LA Live next Saturday because I feel pretty confident that there will be a LOT of folks who will show up expecting a concert and it will be fairly amusing watching what happens.
You should have asked her if she's showing it cancelled/postponed on her end?
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I would strongly caution against making assumptions about vax status based on political leanings. I lean a LOT farther right than I would guess Petrucci does on a lot of issues, as do most of the people I associate with and spend time with, and the VAST majority of those people are vaccinated.
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DT doesn't make huge amount of money like Kiss, where they can afford paying the crew for additional time off if someone comes Covid positive and some dates would need to be postponed. Also, it might also possible that they couldn't get insurance for Covid postponements/cancellation of dates (like Marillion) or it was very cost prohibitive to get a policy that included Covid damages. So besides the health risks, there are also huge financial risks as well.
Even MP has talked about how they lost a lot of money with the last Sons of Apollo tour, when they pulled the plug early on. Same with Anathema. Most of the costs are paid upfront so you can get easily derailed financially by a week of postponed/cancelled shows.
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I do find it curious that JP actually put it out there that he had been overridden by the rest of the band aside from Myung. His comments and interviews just always seem very politically correct and like he is speaking on behalf of the group, it's rare to see him off the cuff like that. I guess it does go to show you that as much as influence as he has in DT, t's not just his band.
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crazy thought but is it possible some of the band members or crew arent vaccinated?
I believe that at least Petrucci and Myung are not vaxxed. I'd be shocked if they are, especially Petrucci. My guess is they aren't and don't wanna deal with negative test BS for every show.
This doesn't make any sense. I actually agree in part, I'd bet on JP being unvaxxed, but he's the one that wants to tour. As he said, he was voted down, and he's the one that'd endure the "bullshit."
I wonder if that's why I didn't see any New York Shitty tour dates listed. The last two (and only times) I saw them was in The Shitty.
They had a date for Brooklyn?
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crazy thought but is it possible some of the band members or crew arent vaccinated?
I believe that at least Petrucci and Myung are not vaxxed. I'd be shocked if they are, especially Petrucci. My guess is they aren't and don't wanna deal with negative test BS for every show.
This doesn't make any sense. I actually agree in part, I'd bet on JP being unvaxxed, but he's the one that wants to tour. As he said, he was voted down, and he's the one that'd endure the "bullshit."
I wonder if that's why I didn't see any New York Shitty tour dates listed. The last two (and only times) I saw them was in The Shitty.
They had a date for Brooklyn?
Yup. Tuesday, November 30 at Kings Theatre in Brooklyn.
I also just noticed at the band's website that there's a shload of European dates starting April 20, 2022 in Belfast.
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I decided to do another live chat this morning:
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Paul xxx: I bought a ticket for the Dream Theater concert on October 30, 2021 at the Microsoft Theater in Los Angeles. However, the band has announced that it is postponing its October through December 2021 North American tour dates to early 2022. Fans who have purchased tickets for every other venue on the tour have been officially notified about the postponement and given information about refunds or the tickets being valid for the rescheduled dates. AXS, however, has provided no notice regarding the October 30 date. Since the concert presumably will not be happening in 10 days, please advise what sort of arrangements will be made.
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Sheronda: Hi Paul ***. Thank you for contacting AXS! My name is Sheronda . Can you provide the details below so that I can check the status of your tickets?
Venue
Order number
Last 4 digits of the credit card used for the purchase
Paul ***: I have a confirmation number of ___.
Venue is the Microsoft Theater in Los Angeles.
Not 100% sure which credit card I used, but it would have been either ___ or ___.
Sheronda: Please allow me a few moments to pull up your account
Did you need a refund?
Paul ***: I don't want a refund. The band has indicated that the tour dates are being postponed, but I haven't received any communication from AXS (or anyone else) about the postponement or what the plan is for people who have bought tickets for the 10/30 date.
Are you showing on your end that the event is postponed?
My preference would be to keep my ticket and attend the rescheduled show.
Sheronda: Did you check your junk and spam mail
Paul ***: I check it occasionally. There's nothing in my spam folder right now about this. Was an email sent?
Sheronda: I am not showing that we have sent out letters saying the event as postponed
Paul ***: OK, but are you showing the event as postponed (or canceled)?
Sheronda: As of right now, they have not cancelled or postponed the event for this day.
You can continue to check the website and your email. As of right now the event is still happening for this date
Paul ***: Someone should look into this. Other venues have been sending communications to ticket buyers based on the band's announcement. Here's a link to the band's website where they indicate the postponement: https://dreamtheater.net/tour/
Sheronda: Paul again the event has not been cancelled or postponed. If you go to AXS website you will see the event is still happening, until the promoter of the event tells us otherwise the end is still on. If it does cancel or postponed you will receive an email
Is there anything else I can help you with today?
Paul ***: My question is...if I don't receive any communication from AXS and show up on the day of the event, and the event doesn't happen, what happens with my ticket?
Sheronda: The reason you did not get communication is because the event is still on.
Is there anything else I can help you with today?
Paul ***: You haven't really answered my question. You say "the event is still on," but the band has publicly announced that it is not on. I asked what will happen if I show up for this event that you say "is still on" but the band does not perform. You haven't answered that question.
Sheronda: Paul, If the event cancels you will receive a notice. This event is still playing.
Thank you for contacting AXS. My name is Sheronda . If you have any more issues, don't hesitate to let us know.
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Oy....
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They are just reading from a script, it's quite clear communication is not very good between the band/promoters/fans. I wouldn't blame the AXS person who is just going off the info they have.
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Good Lord pg1067. I wonder how many people will actually show up for the show? Somebody is dropping the ball big-time!
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Good Lord pg1067. I wonder how many people will actually show up for the show? Somebody is dropping the ball big-time!
I hope no one is traveling a good distance for this and has flights and hotels booked.
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My my ma my Sheronda..
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Good Lord pg1067. I wonder how many people will actually show up for the show? Somebody is dropping the ball big-time!
It may be the promoters are trying to make arrangements and trying to get these things settled with the venue. Could explain why no information is known as they don't have a final decision on the matter yet.
That's what I'm thinking since my venue just sent their press release as the explanation.
Which makes me now think the venues are upset for them cancelling on such short notice.
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Sweet baby, Jebus. This is going to be an interesting Saturday, 10/30, for me. Watch a hockey game and then walk to Microsoft Theater next door and see that the concert is deemed cancelled at the "last minute," and could see a bunch of pissed off fans in LA Live and parking near the venue is either very far or very expensive so that could get people really going.
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OOC I checked the LA show, and as others stated, you can still buy tickets.... but wow that venue is only like 1/4 sold. It looks pretty big for DT to be playing.
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OOC I checked the LA show, and as others stated, you can still buy tickets.... but wow that venue is only like 1/4 sold. It looks pretty big for DT to be playing.
It's a 7,100 seat venue, and they've played there before (when it was the Nokia Theater) on the ADTOE tour. I recall it being mostly full, but I wasn't exactly looking.
Hmmm...I just went to the AXS website and searched for DT, and this came up: https://www.axs.com/events/409559/dream-theater-tickets -- rescheduled to February 5. And the ticket is updated in my AXS app. No communication, but there we go.
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OOC I checked the LA show, and as others stated, you can still buy tickets.... but wow that venue is only like 1/4 sold. It looks pretty big for DT to be playing.
It's a 7,100 seat venue, and they've played there before (when it was the Nokia Theater) on the ADTOE tour. I recall it being mostly full, but I wasn't exactly looking.
Hmmm...I just went to the AXS website and searched for DT, and this came up: https://www.axs.com/events/409559/dream-theater-tickets -- rescheduled to February 5. And the ticket is updated in my AXS app. No communication, but there we go.
For the ADTOE tour, they played my local amphitheater.... 17,500 capacity. As you can expect, it was not sold well for the venue. But I think there was a lot of interest in that tour with MM and a good reception from ADTOE.
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OOC I checked the LA show, and as others stated, you can still buy tickets.... but wow that venue is only like 1/4 sold. It looks pretty big for DT to be playing.
It's a 7,100 seat venue, and they've played there before (when it was the Nokia Theater) on the ADTOE tour. I recall it being mostly full, but I wasn't exactly looking.
Hmmm...I just went to the AXS website and searched for DT, and this came up: https://www.axs.com/events/409559/dream-theater-tickets -- rescheduled to February 5. And the ticket is updated in my AXS app. No communication, but there we go.
For the ADTOE tour, they played my local amphitheater.... 17,500 capacity. As you can expect, it was not sold well for the venue. But I think there was a lot of interest in that tour with MM and a good reception from ADTOE.
Other than when they opened for Maiden, the biggest venue where I've seen DT was the Microsoft/Nokia Theatre. I also saw them thrice at a 6,200 seat venue (Gibson Amph) and once at a 5,900 seat venue (Greek Theatre on Prog Nation 2009).
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Well....Well....
I just received an Email from the Mesa Arts Center that the new Dream Theater tour date is...
2/2/2022... :omg:
Now I find that synchronicity hilarious.
Edit: It'll also be my 2nd year of being Alcohol Free...and right before their release date of 10/22... :lol :lol
I am definitely not going to miss this show.
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I can also confirm that my account on AXS has been updated where the ticket says 02/05/22. There we go.
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I can also confirm that my account on AXS has been updated where the ticket says 02/05/22. There we go.
Patience works wonders... :biggrin:
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So. Does this mean the whole tour has new dates now? I wonder if it will be officially announced tomorrow to coincide with the album release. I have been thinking about this for a while now.
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So. Does this mean the whole tour has new dates now? I wonder if it will be officially announced tomorrow to coincide with the album release. I have been thinking about this for a while now.
No idea of it being tomorrow, would be cool to line it up with the release, but it's got to be soon if the dates are being updated. Just checked my local show and nothing new. Soon.
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Hopefully we'll hear an official announcement soon then on the rest of the rescheduled dates. I'm personally interested in if they'll be rescheduling the San Diego date maybe in a different venue. 2/2 in Phoenix and 2/5 in LA, leaves a few days open for SD - fingers crossed.
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What's really bizarre is that if you click on all of the new songs on their official YT channel (which are still unavailable to those of us in the time zones where it is not 10/22 yet), the original tour dates are still listed underneath, so according to the band's official YT channel, the concert on 10/30 in LA is still a go.
The fact that whoever runs the band's official YT page has not fixed that yet is pretty weak. It's not a good look for the band.
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Man, Sheronda stuck to the script like a boss!
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What's really bizarre is that if you click on all of the new songs on their official YT channel (which are still unavailable to those of us in the time zones where it is not 10/22 yet), the original tour dates are still listed underneath, so according to the band's official YT channel, the concert on 10/30 in LA is still a go.
The fact that whoever runs the band's official YT page has not fixed that yet is pretty weak. It's not a good look for the band.
That kind of thing would've never happened if MP were still in the band.. :neverusethis:
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What's really bizarre is that if you click on all of the new songs on their official YT channel (which are still unavailable to those of us in the time zones where it is not 10/22 yet), the original tour dates are still listed underneath, so according to the band's official YT channel, the concert on 10/30 in LA is still a go.
The fact that whoever runs the band's official YT page has not fixed that yet is pretty weak. It's not a good look for the band.
This goes back to the AXS issue from before, the YT page is likely just pulling info from the ticketing websites and they haven't been updated yet.
Granted, this is a problem.
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Well, based on the original dates and the fact that the first few shows will be at the beginning of Feb, I'm assuming north east dates will be around the end of Feb or beginning of March.
Wanted to see Tool on Feb 26 so still waiting to see what happens with DT.
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Oddly, it's the AXS shows that are now showing the new dates.
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Chicago still set for 11/11 through Ticketmaster, 3 weeks away so will be good to hear something soon.
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All right, well. Got the email confirmation from AXS that the show is rescheduled. That's really the end of that one for me.
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Edit: It'll also be my 2nd year of being Alcohol Free...
Congrats
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Well....Well....
I just received an Email from the Mesa Arts Center that the new Dream Theater tour date is...
2/2/2022... :omg:
Now I find that synchronicity hilarious.
Edit: It'll also be my 2nd year of being Alcohol Free...and right before their release date of 10/22... :lol :lol
I am definitely not going to miss this show.
2 years sober!!! That’s absolutely amazing! This album’s for you my friend!!! 👍💪✊
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Man, Sheronda stuck to the script like a boss!
Indeed...
And, lo and behold, at 6:16 p.m. yesterday, I got an email about the new date and my ticket being good for the new date. Coincidence? :biggrin:
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OOC I checked the LA show, and as others stated, you can still buy tickets.... but wow that venue is only like 1/4 sold. It looks pretty big for DT to be playing.
It's a 7,100 seat venue, and they've played there before (when it was the Nokia Theater) on the ADTOE tour. I recall it being mostly full, but I wasn't exactly looking.
Hmmm...I just went to the AXS website and searched for DT, and this came up: https://www.axs.com/events/409559/dream-theater-tickets -- rescheduled to February 5. And the ticket is updated in my AXS app. No communication, but there we go.
For the ADTOE tour, they played my local amphitheater.... 17,500 capacity. As you can expect, it was not sold well for the venue. But I think there was a lot of interest in that tour with MM and a good reception from ADTOE.
Just because a venue seats X number of people doesn't mean you have to book it at that capacity. Plenty of venues allow you to scale down to suit your need. The Pavilion, where you saw them down here, seats 2500, 4000, or 8000, depending on the configuration you want. Same with Nextstage, which was their prior preferred venue. DT pretty consistently sells 1000 +/- 300 or so down here. Before they started playing their current shithole venue, they were always playing 5-8k seat venues scaled way down. The Pavillion gig was the 2500 seat configuration and they sold, at most, half of that. Probably a bit less.
Makes pretty good sense, actually. Seven to thirteen hundred seat venues don't generally have the stage requirements that they're going to want for their production. Plus, many of those will be GA only. If their options are to play an appropriately sized club with GA and a limited production, or a giant venue at 20% capacity that suits their needs perfectly, it's a pretty easy decision.
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on the live stream just now and the question was which song(s) the band was most looking forward to playing...the way JLB answered made it sound like the upcoming setlist wouldn't contain Transcending Time. He mentioned a few new songs (sleeping giant, alien) but also said they couldn't play the entire album because their catalogue is so expansive.
"Transcending Time, at some point..."
I think he then followed it with Awaken The Master.
Don't know if anyone else got that same impression.
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on the live stream just now and the question was which song(s) the band was most looking forward to playing...the way JLB answered made it sound like the upcoming setlist wouldn't contain Transcending Time. He mentioned a few new songs (sleeping giant, alien) but also said they couldn't play the entire album because their catalogue is so expansive.
"Transcending Time, at some point..."
I think he then followed it with Awaken The Master.
Don't know if anyone else got that same impression.
JP also mentioned they have never played these songs live yet either, and they play it as a band for the first time when they rehearse. I do wonder if they actually try and play all the songs from the album, but if they can't quite get it down, they'll bench it. Which could explain why they play some stuff for soundcheck, just to play it and see.
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https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/dream-theaters-james-labrie-addresses-john-petruccis-frustration-over-tour-postponement/
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https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/dream-theaters-james-labrie-addresses-john-petruccis-frustration-over-tour-postponement/
Wow! Delaying the tour was not a unanimous decision. JP and JM didn't want to postpone the tour and the entire band is indeed vaccinated.
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https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/dream-theaters-james-labrie-addresses-john-petruccis-frustration-over-tour-postponement/
Wow! Delaying the tour was not a unanimous decision. JP and JM didn't want to postpone the tour and the entire band is indeed vaccinated.
The non-unanimous decision was mentioned earlier in the thread. The vaccinated part was news to me though.
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https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/dream-theaters-james-labrie-addresses-john-petruccis-frustration-over-tour-postponement/
Interesting. He mentions that they are all inoculated in this, so I guess we can put the question of whether JP is vaccinated to rest.
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I know this is the wrong forum - but i also wonder if JP still supports Trump. I would hope not. I wonder if he is even still Republican.
Anyway. That's another thread.
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I know this is the wrong forum - but i also wonder if JP still supports Trump. I would hope not. I wonder if he is even still Republican.
Anyway. That's another thread.
One of the most contradictory, perplexing, confounding and paradoxical things about JP, who is such a nice, thoughtful, intelligent and polite person, but yes another thread...
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I still don't understand what they think is going to be different in February/March. They could still get sick then too, that is part of life, always has been. The corporate media's fear porn is not going to subside since that is all they've got. Either go out and resume playing music, or continue playing pandemic.
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I still don't understand what they think is going to be different in February/March. They could still get sick then too, that is part of life, always has been. The corporate media's fear porn is not going to subside since that is all they've got. Either go out and resume playing music, or continue playing pandemic.
Exactly. Live your life or keep hiding in fear. They can play shows again or they can call it quits.
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I still don't understand what they think is going to be different in February/March. They could still get sick then too, that is part of life, always has been. The corporate media's fear porn is not going to subside since that is all they've got. Either go out and resume playing music, or continue playing pandemic.
:tup :tup :tup :tup :tup
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I still don't understand what they think is going to be different in February/March. They could still get sick then too, that is part of life, always has been. The corporate media's fear porn is not going to subside since that is all they've got. Either go out and resume playing music, or continue playing pandemic.
Exactly. Live your life or keep hiding in fear. They can play shows again or they can call it quits.
By that time, they would most likely be facing an economy where people are already more confident to go back out and thus, the economic benefits of going on tour would then hopefully materially outweigh already the risks.
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I still don't understand what they think is going to be different in February/March. They could still get sick then too, that is part of life, always has been. The corporate media's fear porn is not going to subside since that is all they've got. Either go out and resume playing music, or continue playing pandemic.
Exactly. Live your life or keep hiding in fear. They can play shows again or they can call it quits.
By that time, they would most likely be facing an economy where people are already more confident to go back out and thus, the economic benefits of going on tour would then hopefully materially outweigh already the risks.
I'd like to hope so. It's no guarantee though. I was very skeptical on announcement that Feb/March would be any better than November, but some experts seem to think that may be the case. Who knows. I think the difference is likely a bit negligible personally. If they pushed back to May I might think that would have been safer, but then again, who knows really?
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I still don't understand what they think is going to be different in February/March. They could still get sick then too, that is part of life, always has been. The corporate media's fear porn is not going to subside since that is all they've got. Either go out and resume playing music, or continue playing pandemic.
Exactly. Live your life or keep hiding in fear. They can play shows again or they can call it quits.
By that time, they would most likely be facing an economy where people are already more confident to go back out and thus, the economic benefits of going on tour would then hopefully materially outweigh already the risks.
It seems from a business perspective, the band doesn't to risk the losses from having to cancel tours. Which makes me think that the guys just make enough to give us the best possible production they can afford, while also just making enough to embellish in some luxuries.
It's actually wise if you don't want any losses and just want to make profits, while also being able to play to more fans as peoples perceptions and feelings of fear will be dwindled a bit enough to go see a show. Even though many are willing to go to a show, others are not and this affects ticket sales. If they did play, how much of the venues seats would have been sold compared to the average sales in the cities they play? The odds of those seats being about the same or more, they likely predicted a good turnout based on just how excited and how they felt about the album, it's a great indicator for knowing your audience. And people are enjoying it, immensely. Which means that more seats would most likely be bought, if not close to selling out, and those odds are better if they wait until the spring when things may possibly ease a bit more to get to these ticket sales.
A lot of these bands that are touring now can afford to take a loss, while others can not.
What I think this shows us fans is how expensive it is to be able to put on a tour with those flashy, spinning, multicolored lights and video screens, cool mic stands, catwalk platforms, and keyboard designs. If they could, I bet they would get pyro too, I am guessing that costs a lot too.
Anyways these are the reasons I feel now is the reason as was given by the JLB blabbermouth interview.
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So I think I got to the point where I would OK with DT playing Mangini Era songs only and the concert would kick ass. In fact, a concert playing songs from the last 2 albums only would still get my money's worth. I also hope Sleeping Giant is played. It's my early favorite of the album.
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I know this is the wrong forum - but i also wonder if JP still supports Trump. I would hope not. I wonder if he is even still Republican.
Anyway. That's another thread.
Please let's not.
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So I think I got to the point where I would OK with DT playing Mangini Era songs only and the concert would kick ass. In fact, a concert playing songs from the last 2 albums only would still get my money's worth. I also hope Sleeping Giant is played. It's my early favorite of the album.
I have as well. There's plenty songs to choose from these 5 albums they can make a good set from.
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So I think I got to the point where I would OK with DT playing Mangini Era songs only and the concert would kick ass. In fact, a concert playing songs from the last 2 albums only would still get my money's worth. I also hope Sleeping Giant is played. It's my early favorite of the album.
I have as well. There's plenty songs to choose from these 5 albums they can make a good set from.
I'd Buy That For A Dollar :metal
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I'd like to hope so. It's no guarantee though. I was very skeptical on announcement that Feb/March would be any better than November, but some experts seem to think that may be the case. Who knows. I think the difference is likely a bit negligible personally. If they pushed back to May I might think that would have been safer, but then again, who knows really?
I'm skeptical as well (would bet winter will be bad) but I think the feeling among a certain group of people is - This summer/fall is when Delta really got out there in the US. By Winter, most people will have already had it or gotten their COVID shot, and the case count won't be as high as last winter. There are other mutations out there but they don't seem to get around like Delta does and they haven't made major inroads into the US.
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So I think I got to the point where I would OK with DT playing Mangini Era songs only and the concert would kick ass.
While I am way more partial to the MP era, I would absolutely LOVE to see a completely Mangini era set list! YES, it would KICK ASS.
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I still don't understand what they think is going to be different in February/March. They could still get sick then too, that is part of life, always has been. The corporate media's fear porn is not going to subside since that is all they've got. Either go out and resume playing music, or continue playing pandemic.
Exactly. Live your life or keep hiding in fear. They can play shows again or they can call it quits.
...or there are other options like wait and play shows when they're more comfortable. I mean, I think the "fear" of having to cancel several shows and lose hundreds of thousands of dollars is not an unreasonable fear.
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So I think I got to the point where I would OK with DT playing Mangini Era songs only and the concert would kick ass. In fact, a concert playing songs from the last 2 albums only would still get my money's worth. I also hope Sleeping Giant is played. It's my early favorite of the album.
I agree with this. There are so many great songs from the MP era. I have heard them live and on DVD and would be fine if we only heard them on encores. MM era is a wealth of great songs.
I think they should play the entire View album on the next tour plus a few neglected ones from DoT and dt12.
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So I think I got to the point where I would OK with DT playing Mangini Era songs only and the concert would kick ass. In fact, a concert playing songs from the last 2 albums only would still get my money's worth. I also hope Sleeping Giant is played. It's my early favorite of the album.
I agree with this. There are so many great songs from the MP era. I have heard them live and on DVD and would be fine if we only heard them on encores. MM era is a wealth of great songs.
I think they should play the entire View album on the next tour plus a few neglected ones from DoT and dt12.
1. I would not be against a MM only tour, but it would have to have the songs DT have not played much or at all with MM to make it a really good set for me though. (Surrender to Reason for example)
2. I'm also not against playing all of the new album, but at 70 minutes with an opener, it wouldn't leave too much wiggle room. If it included the neglected ones, it would basically be the same as 1... which I'm good with as said.
side note, there's only really two MP era songs I really want to see live that I haven't yet... Glass Prison and Octavarium. I don't expect either of those this tour. I'd really love to see Blind Faith too but I think that's even less realistic.
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How about this for a MM only set list -
S2N
New album in it's entirety.
Encore:
Bridges in the Sky
Surrender to Reason
At Wits End
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A MM era set list that ignores The Astonishing would be a travesty.
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A MM era set list that ignores The Astonishing would be a travesty.
Maybe in time they will do a full production live show “The Astonishing”!!! That would be EPIC and I believe would bring the album to life for those who might not have liked it before. It took me time but I came around to liking it. Picture a live CD/DVD of the entire album, with special guests for all the characters!
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A MM era set list that ignores The Astonishing would be a travesty.
I'd love to see any of these songs live again: Three Days (that ending!), A Life Left Behind (That intro!), A New Beginning (That solo!), Heaven's Cove (love the riff), Walking Shadow + My Last Farewell.
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A MM era set list that ignores The Astonishing would be a travesty.
Maybe in time they will do a full production live show “The Astonishing”!!! That would be EPIC and I believe would bring the album to life for those who might not liked it before. It took me time but I came around to liking it. Picture a live CD/DVD of the entire album, with special guests for all the characters!
Not sure how the Astonishing tour did, but I think that the only way to present this going forward is in a theater on a stage with a bunch of people playing different characters, which presents a whole universe of challenges. If you are a DT fan and didn't like it 5 years ago, I don't see you getting off your butt and plunking down $100 to see DT play it now.
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A MM era set list that ignores The Astonishing would be a travesty.
Agreed
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A MM era set list that ignores The Astonishing would be a travesty.
I would love to see A New Beginning again! My first concert with DT and barely knowing who they were or their music. I saw JP play that solo and thought, "Who the heck is this guy?" It's been no holes barred ever since.
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The Astonishing concert was a very unique experience and one of my favorite DT shows ever. I don't ever see it happening again due to logistics and lack of interest from the fan base (sadly).
I think it would be cool if they set up for one TA show in a big empty warehouse somewhere. That way they could make a nice production with props and lighting and film it over a period of a few days for a dvd. Or they could just do it at DT headquarters when they get their larger space. It doesn't hurt to dream.. :corn
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A MM era set list that ignores The Astonishing would be a travesty.
I'd love to see any of these songs live again: Three Days (that ending!), A Life Left Behind (That intro!), A New Beginning (That solo!), Heaven's Cove (love the riff), Walking Shadow + My Last Farewell.
Not getting that immortalized in HD sucks :(
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A MM era set list that ignores The Astonishing would be a travesty.
Maybe in time they will do a full production live show “The Astonishing”!!! That would be EPIC and I believe would bring the album to life for those who might not liked it before. It took me time but I came around to liking it. Picture a live CD/DVD of the entire album, with special guests for all the characters!
Not sure how the Astonishing tour did, but I think that the only way to present this going forward is in a theater on a stage with a bunch of people playing different characters, which presents a whole universe of challenges. If you are a DT fan and didn't like it 5 years ago, I don't see you getting off your butt and plunking down $100 to see DT play it now.
I don't like and never have liked the album and didn't see the tour, but I would absolutely go see that sort of production.
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I like the album from the start and saw the tour, and I would absolutely avoid that sort of production.
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I like the album from the start and saw the tour, and I would absolutely avoid that sort of production.
I kind of agree with you Bosk but maybe for Faythe, include a female lead singer. James kicked ass in the TA tour (saw this tour two times). Aside that, and if the female lead singer wasn't possible, then I wouldn't like having the multiple characters in the production either.
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I like the album from the start and saw the tour, and I would absolutely avoid that sort of production.
I kind of agree with you Bosk but maybe for Faythe, include a female lead singer. James kicked ass in the TA tour (saw this tour two times). Aside that, and if the female lead singer wasn't possible, then I wouldn't like having the multiple characters in the production either.
I agree. James only. What was part of the greatness of that performance was watching James perform all the parts! It was amazing! I was at the show where they had Lzzy. Just wasn't a fan of the sharing of the singing. This was the album made for JLB.
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I think the only way a non-DT driven version of the Astonishing would work if it was an all out theatrical production. I'm not sure a hybrid show would work. Something akin to Jim Steinman's 'Bat Out of Hell - The Musical' could be interesting. I'd be completely content with something like that, but I can 100% understand why the majority of DT fans would gag at such a show coming to fruition.
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I like the album from the start and saw the tour, and I would absolutely avoid that sort of production.
Really now? Dream Theater doing Theatre is intriguing and probably would be outstanding. But I doubt it would even happen so this is pretty much moot.
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I'd be cool with just the same performance they actually did. Something more than that might be a bit too much for me. Having said that, this is all wishful thinking. Unless the fan base comes around and starts to appreciate TA (which I don't expect), they will never perform that album live again and I don't blame them. Sucks, but that's the reality. I'm glad I saw the show twice.
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I like the album from the start and saw the tour, and I would absolutely avoid that sort of production.
I love most of the album, and I would also rather they avoid that kind of production. Leaving aside the inevitable comparisons to Ayreon's The Human Equation (where JLB was also the main character/singer), I wouldn't personally have interest in seeing a DT show where a bunch of random singers are singing a bunch of JLB's parts. Plus, I don't think DT has the stage presence/personality to make that kind of presentation work.
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I wouldn't personally have interest in seeing a DT show where a bunch of random singers are singing a bunch of JLB's parts. Plus, I don't think DT has the stage presence/personality to make that kind of presentation work.
Agreed x2
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I wouldn't personally have interest in seeing a DT show where a bunch of random singers are singing a bunch of JLB's parts. Plus, I don't think DT has the stage presence/personality to make that kind of presentation work.
Agreed x2
Agreed, and to add, I don't think JLB had the personality to make that Ayreon live album work either (in terms of being a lead in more of a theater show, than just his vocals). I have that blu-ray and have struggled to watch it due to the theatrics being very cringe.
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Hearing this interview with JBL, the first 5 minutes he talks about the tour being postponed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbxgthoMUX4
I know there were earlier comments asking about vaccine. JBL Hints that all band members are vaccinated. And looks like the main 2 reasons for postponing was concern of getting sick, and concern of losing money if someone got sick.
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A MM era set list that ignores The Astonishing would be a travesty.
Maybe in time they will do a full production live show “The Astonishing”!!! That would be EPIC and I believe would bring the album to life for those who might not have liked it before. It took me time but I came around to liking it. Picture a live CD/DVD of the entire album, with special guests for all the characters!
A full production with some rock contemporaries as guest vocalists would be amazing. Hell they technically already cast Faythe.
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Hearing this interview with JBL, the first 5 minutes he talks about the tour being postponed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbxgthoMUX4
I know there were earlier comments asking about vaccine. JBL Hints that all band members are vaccinated. And looks like the main 2 reasons for postponing was concern of getting sick, and concern of losing money if someone got sick.
Today's speaker will be James BraLee. :biggrin:
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Hearing this interview with JBL, the first 5 minutes he talks about the tour being postponed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbxgthoMUX4
I know there were earlier comments asking about vaccine. JBL Hints that all band members are vaccinated. And looks like the main 2 reasons for postponing was concern of getting sick, and concern of losing money if someone got sick.
Today's speaker will be James BraLee. :biggrin:
:metal
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lol
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Hearing this interview with JBL, the first 5 minutes he talks about the tour being postponed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbxgthoMUX4
I know there were earlier comments asking about vaccine. JBL Hints that all band members are vaccinated. And looks like the main 2 reasons for postponing was concern of getting sick, and concern of losing money if someone got sick.
I'm still not sure what is going to be any different in February/March. So during those two months it is impossible for the band/crew members to get sick? I'm not sure how the "vaccine" makes any difference either. Israel is the most heavily vaccinated country in the world, and they are in the midst of an outbreak and on their FOURTH shot now since the efficacy wanes over time and it does NOT stop you from catching the virus or transmitting it.
It goes back to what I said earlier, either go out and play music knowing that life itself has and always will come with risks, or continue to play pandemic.
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DT has pretty much been my favorite band for 25 years..been to every show I could in DFW and once in Tulsa for The Astonishing tour.. have my agenda and airfare from DFW to La Quardia and back all planned for Kings Theater in Brooklyn 4 th row dead center .... then.. we’ll shit... we all know
The most disappointing aspect is this .. total lack of them or management or whoever updating even there own website and links to ticket sites with any new information or new dates .. I’ve seen posts where some ppl haven’t gotten any emails or anything letting them know something..anything
I love this band ..so yes I will do everything in my power to get to NYC in Feb or March or whenever it is..I just want to know when that’s gonna be
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Hearing this interview with JBL, the first 5 minutes he talks about the tour being postponed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbxgthoMUX4
I know there were earlier comments asking about vaccine. JBL Hints that all band members are vaccinated. And looks like the main 2 reasons for postponing was concern of getting sick, and concern of losing money if someone got sick.
I'm still not sure what is going to be any different in February/March. So during those two months it is impossible for the band/crew members to get sick? I'm not sure how the "vaccine" makes any difference either. Israel is the most heavily vaccinated country in the world, and they are in the midst of an outbreak and on their FOURTH shot now since the efficacy wanes over time and it does NOT stop you from catching the virus or transmitting it.
It goes back to what I said earlier, either go out and play music knowing that life itself has and always will come with risks, or continue to play pandemic.
Fan willingness to turn out maybe? I still maintain that ticket sales influenced this decision.
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Hearing this interview with JBL, the first 5 minutes he talks about the tour being postponed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbxgthoMUX4
I know there were earlier comments asking about vaccine. JBL Hints that all band members are vaccinated. And looks like the main 2 reasons for postponing was concern of getting sick, and concern of losing money if someone got sick.
I'm still not sure what is going to be any different in February/March. So during those two months it is impossible for the band/crew members to get sick? I'm not sure how the "vaccine" makes any difference either. Israel is the most heavily vaccinated country in the world, and they are in the midst of an outbreak and on their FOURTH shot now since the efficacy wanes over time and it does NOT stop you from catching the virus or transmitting it.
It goes back to what I said earlier, either go out and play music knowing that life itself has and always will come with risks, or continue to play pandemic.
Israel is not the most vaccinated country in the world. They're at 65% fully vaccinated, about the same as the USA, and the vaccine reduces both infection and transmission significantly, even though the dominant virus variant right now is about 8 times more infectious than the one the vaccines were tailored for. No one is "playing pandemic", the pandemic is ongoing, and ignoring it won't magically un-lose Dream Theater a buttload of money if someone gets sick and has to isolate and they have to cancel a lot of dates.
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The most disappointing aspect is this .. total lack of them or management or whoever updating even there own website and links to ticket sites with any new information or new dates ..
EXACTLY! :facepalm:
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The most disappointing aspect is this .. total lack of them or management or whoever updating even there own website and links to ticket sites with any new information or new dates ..
EXACTLY! :facepalm:
Wow. I just looked. You're not kidding. Their website's tour section is as if nothing ever happened.
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The most disappointing aspect is this .. total lack of them or management or whoever updating even there own website and links to ticket sites with any new information or new dates ..
EXACTLY! :facepalm:
Wow. I just looked. You're not kidding. Their website's tour section is as if nothing ever happened.
Yeah, this is a real problem. I think the band really needs to be passing a message on all socials saying "the tour rescheduling is still in the works, you may see the old date or a new date on the ticketing websites, don't be alarmed we are still working on finalizing the new dates in 2022. NONE of the shows in 2021 will be happening in 2021, do not show up to the venues! We will make an announcement soon with the full new schedule and you will have the opportunity for a refund then if you haven't already directly from the ticket seller" Of course with some better wording, but you get the idea. The communication needs to be open before they piss someone off who is going to be too mad and won't keep their ticket for the new date further hurting sales.
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I wouldn't personally have interest in seeing a DT show where a bunch of random singers are singing a bunch of JLB's parts. Plus, I don't think DT has the stage presence/personality to make that kind of presentation work.
Agreed x2
Agreed, and to add, I don't think JLB had the personality to make that Ayreon live album work either (in terms of being a lead in more of a theater show, than just his vocals). I have that blu-ray and have struggled to watch it due to the theatrics being very cringe.
Me too and I enjoyed the acting. I do not compare this live show to any sort of theatrical theater show. This is compared to the Wall live for me. In the band plays the music, but the concept is brought forth by props and visuals, the visuals including the acting to compliment the dialogue of the characters. I think it's great and enhances the purpose of the characters. Like how each of the singers surround JLB and circle around him while singing directly to him, it represents the voices of the emotions that swirl inside our own head.
I also found it great how he included three new characters specifically for the live show. The Doctor, The Nurse, and The Mother, each with their own sung parts in the reprises, and the change of lyrics from an emotion character/the wife/best friend to be sung by one of them. Such as the first sung lyrics to Day 10:Memories being sung by the Doctor instead of The Best Friend and the next being sung by The Nurse rather than the wife.
JLB's performance in this production proves to me that JLB would be perfect to sing the Narrator or even Ahrys if they were to have done something similar to The Theater Equation with different vocalists. As a matter of fact, Marcela would be awesome to have on as Faythe.
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Hearing this interview with JBL, the first 5 minutes he talks about the tour being postponed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbxgthoMUX4
I know there were earlier comments asking about vaccine. JBL Hints that all band members are vaccinated. And looks like the main 2 reasons for postponing was concern of getting sick, and concern of losing money if someone got sick.
I'm still not sure what is going to be any different in February/March. So during those two months it is impossible for the band/crew members to get sick? I'm not sure how the "vaccine" makes any difference either. Israel is the most heavily vaccinated country in the world, and they are in the midst of an outbreak and on their FOURTH shot now since the efficacy wanes over time and it does NOT stop you from catching the virus or transmitting it.
It goes back to what I said earlier, either go out and play music knowing that life itself has and always will come with risks, or continue to play pandemic.
Israel is not the most vaccinated country in the world. They're at 65% fully vaccinated, about the same as the USA, and the vaccine reduces both infection and transmission significantly, even though the dominant virus variant right now is about 8 times more infectious than the one the vaccines were tailored for. No one is "playing pandemic", the pandemic is ongoing, and ignoring it won't magically un-lose Dream Theater a buttload of money if someone gets sick and has to isolate and they have to cancel a lot of dates.
Thank you! People seem to willfully ignore facts that are easily available.
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Devin Townsend will join DT on European leg! :metal
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DT = Delayed Tour ? :neverusethis:
Also - Dream Theater should tour with Devin Townsend plus Derek Trucks and call the tour DT3
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DT = Delayed Tour ? :neverusethis:
Also - Dream Theater should tour with Devin Townsend plus Derek Trucks and call the tour DT3
Add in Dark Tranquility and we'll get the DT4 tour.
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Devin Townsend will join DT on European leg! :metal
That's awesome, I'm jelly (I also said this would be my pairing in the DT coheadline thread)
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DT = Delayed Tour ? :neverusethis:
Also - Dream Theater should tour with Devin Townsend plus Derek Trucks and call the tour DT3
That would actually be awesome.
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Looks like it's just Europe for now?
Devin opening for DT might actually get me to a show, but not in Europe.
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If management are waiting for covid to be gone, they'll NEVER tour the US again! :censored
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Is it gone in Europe?
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Is it gone in Europe?
It's not, but we're getting there! We were several months behind on vaccines, but people are overall more willing to take them, so we'll end up in a better place collectively in a few months.
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So are we getting an early 2022 US tour or not...it’s getting ridiculous at this point
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Honestly, they have not been around my neck of the woods since 2014, so I could came less. lol. Hope to see them live again, though. Saw them in Chaos In Motion, and their self-titled tour. Both excellent shows, although their sound was horrid for Chaos In Motion. Waaaaaaay to loud.
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So are we getting an early 2022 US tour or not...it’s getting ridiculous at this point
I just requested a refund for my 6 tickets (3rd row) at Count Basie in Red Bank. ENOUGH! :censored
I'll buy from secondhand market for a couple of bucks whenever they decide to stop being afraid and play!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'll buy from secondhand market for a couple of bucks whenever they decide to stop being afraid and play!!!!!!!!!!!
There's probably more going on than just fear of playing. I think it was put in this thread somewhere, but there's a JLB interview where he talks about how expensive it has to have shows cancelled due to a failed COVID test or running afoul of some local regulation. I agree, in a high level sense, that the best thing they can do is whatever it takes to tour. Perhaps that would mean doing less of a stage show in order to reduce the loss of a cancelled show. But I get the impression from what I hear on these forums that DT has a group of crew they try to consistently work with so I don't think they want to leave some of them out to dry. Also, on a more simple level, I doubt it's easy to make emergency re-schedules of shows for only 2-4 months from now. Tours are usually announced far more in advanced. While I wouldn't bet on it, for all we know a revised tour schedule will come out next week.
I get where you're coming from. To say I find how we've panicked over COVID appalling would be... beyond an understatement. But I think being mad about DT being 'afraid to play' can only lead to sadness.
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I'll buy from secondhand market for a couple of bucks whenever they decide to stop being afraid and play!!!!!!!!!!!
There's probably more going on than just fear of playing. I think it was put in this thread somewhere, but there's a JLB interview where he talks about how expensive it has to have shows cancelled due to a failed COVID test or running afoul of some local regulation. I agree, in a high level sense, that the best thing they can do is whatever it takes to tour. Perhaps that would mean doing less of a stage show in order to reduce the loss of a cancelled show. But I get the impression from what I hear on these forums that DT has a group of crew they try to consistently work with so I don't think they want to leave some of them out to dry. Also, on a more simple level, I doubt it's easy to make emergency re-schedules of shows for only 2-4 months from now. Tours are usually announced far more in advanced. While I wouldn't bet on it, for all we know a revised tour schedule will come out next week.
I get where you're coming from. To say I find how we've panicked over COVID appalling would be... beyond an understatement. But I think being mad about DT being 'afraid to play' can only lead to sadness.
TOTALLY "get" what you're saying and I'm not "mad" at the band. I just think (and have always since the '90's) felt that THE WEAK POINT of the band was/is their management. MP did everything he could to possibly keep fans updated but obviously that info left with him. It just thoroughly pisses me off that they announce a Euro tour without ANY idea of what's going on with the postponed US tour. I have other shows in that time frame and I'm not missing them because I'm afraid to pull the trigger in case DT EVER announces dates that may conflict. I'll take my money back now and buy later for .10C on the dollar which I should have from the start.
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They originally said the U.S. dates would be pushed to February. That means it would probably go into early April. The European dates start April 20. So, just because they announced the European tour, doesn’t mean they’re necessarily neglecting the U.S. dates. They aren’t overlapping.
It’s not even November yet, it takes time reschedule all of this stuff.
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They originally said the U.S. dates would be pushed to February. That means it would probably go into early April. The European dates start April 20. So, just because they announced the European tour, doesn’t mean they’re necessarily neglecting the U.S. dates. They aren’t overlapping.
It’s not even November yet, it takes time reschedule all of this stuff.
agreed but it only takes ONE TWEET to say dates are being worked on. DT gives *crickets* :censored
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I agree that there should be more communication with the fans but I can't blame them one bit for postponing and was surprised when the announced a tour as soon as they did. In fact, when I bought my tickets I bought them with a hunch that the tour would be postponed.
Now selfishly, I welcomed this postponement. My wife recently went through a medical scare that's she's still going through but the arrow is pointing up so I am just fine waiting till next year.
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I agree that there should be more communication with the fans but I can't blame them one bit for postponing and was surprised when the announced a tour as soon as they did. In fact, when I bought my tickets I bought them with a hunch that the tour would be postponed.
Now selfishly, I welcomed this postponement. My wife recently went through a medical scare that's she's still going through but the arrow is pointing up so I am just fine waiting till next year.
Sending positive vibes :tup
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I agree that there should be more communication with the fans but I can't blame them one bit for postponing and was surprised when the announced a tour as soon as they did. In fact, when I bought my tickets I bought them with a hunch that the tour would be postponed.
Now selfishly, I welcomed this postponement. My wife recently went through a medical scare that's she's still going through but the arrow is pointing up so I am just fine waiting till next year.
Sending love and positive vibes to you and you’re wife!!!! When they eventually tour you will enjoy it that much more!!! :heart :)
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FYI: The other day I received the full refund from Ticketmaster on my San Diego tickets. As in, the money officially hit my bank account.
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FYI: The other day I received the full refund from Ticketmaster on my San Diego tickets. As in, the money officially hit my bank account.
I did as well. I'm really hoping they reschedule a SD date at another venue though.
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Am I the only one hanging on to my ticket, waiting for the rescheduled show?
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Am I the only one hanging on to my ticket, waiting for the rescheduled show?
Nope. I have mine!
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Am I the only one hanging on to my ticket, waiting for the rescheduled show?
I have mine still. 3 shows....... :-[
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I still got mine. I'm not giving up my seat. It's front row in the upper balcony. It's a fine view where I don't have to worry about people in front blocking my view. Can't give that up.
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I still got mine. I'm not giving up my seat. It's front row in the upper balcony. It's a fine view where I don't have to worry about people in front blocking my view. Can't give that up.
The best seats in the house!
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I still got mine. I'm not giving up my seat. It's front row in the upper balcony. It's a fine view where I don't have to worry about people in front blocking my view. Can't give that up.
Same here, but at the Paramount in Seattle. Front row balcony seats. :coolio
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BTW - thanks to all the kind thoughts for wife! :tup
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This was my whole reason for flying to NYC to be at Kings Theater with my daughter and her bf and a friend in late Nov. we got 4 th row dead center...we ain’t giving those up
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I still got mine. I'm not giving up my seat. It's front row in the upper balcony. It's a fine view where I don't have to worry about people in front blocking my view. Can't give that up.
Same here, but at the Paramount in Seattle. Front row balcony seats. :coolio
Same here! Love first row balcony!
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I have 2nd row Myung side seats that I got in presale for only like 80 bucks... not giving them up.
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I've got front row center for the Orlando show. Patiently awaiting these rescheduled dates...
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I've got front row center for the Orlando show. Patiently awaiting these rescheduled dates...
I’m nervous that the US dates are going to be later next year based off of seeing those European dates. Which…..sucks.
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I've got front row center for the Orlando show. Patiently awaiting these rescheduled dates...
I’m nervous that the US dates are going to be later next year based off of seeing those European dates. Which…..sucks.
Some dates have been confirmed for early February (by some members here), so I am confident the US dates will take place in February/March. I just wish we get an update soon as February is turning out to be a busy month.
Edit: The DT website shows the LA show for February 5th.
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Today was concert day. Front row center.... :'(
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Just got notice that Oakland has been rescheduled for Feb 6! Got to keep my great seat! :metal
What's weird is the date hasn't been added yet to the website.
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Hopefully more dates get confirmed soon
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:emo: i've never been to a Dream Theater date
... or any kind of date.
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According to Ticketmaster, the Chicago and Milwaukee shows are still happening next week. :lol
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Haha yeah, got my reminder email about “its almost here” and mobile tickets only yesterday…
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Haha yeah, got my reminder email about “its almost here” and mobile tickets only yesterday…
wow, that is bad especially for people who don't follow along on social media to have seen the news.
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Agreed, plus even the venue still has them as booked on their site (Chicago Theater is owned by MSG so like TicketMaster, a name most people would trust). At this point I’m certain some people will show up.
Heck I’m even thinking to walk past the venue next week to see if they’re on the marquee, when I already know they won’t be. Changes in plans really need to be repeatedly pounded into peoples heads.
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Any mods or ppl close to the band have a clue when they will be in NYC...KINGS THEATER and Ticketmaster both say postponed but hang on to your tickets
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Any mods or ppl close to the band have a clue when they will be in NYC...KINGS THEATER and Ticketmaster both say postponed but hang on to your tickets
They’re all saying postponed, but hang on to your tickets. Other than the two or three shows that have been rescheduled. It’s going to be Feb/Mar. I doubt anyone knows any more specifically than that.
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I'll buy from secondhand market for a couple of bucks whenever they decide to stop being afraid and play!!!!!!!!!!!
There's probably more going on than just fear of playing. I think it was put in this thread somewhere, but there's a JLB interview where he talks about how expensive it has to have shows cancelled due to a failed COVID test or running afoul of some local regulation. I agree, in a high level sense, that the best thing they can do is whatever it takes to tour. Perhaps that would mean doing less of a stage show in order to reduce the loss of a cancelled show. But I get the impression from what I hear on these forums that DT has a group of crew they try to consistently work with so I don't think they want to leave some of them out to dry. Also, on a more simple level, I doubt it's easy to make emergency re-schedules of shows for only 2-4 months from now. Tours are usually announced far more in advanced. While I wouldn't bet on it, for all we know a revised tour schedule will come out next week.
I get where you're coming from. To say I find how we've panicked over COVID appalling would be... beyond an understatement. But I think being mad about DT being 'afraid to play' can only lead to sadness.
TOTALLY "get" what you're saying and I'm not "mad" at the band. I just think (and have always since the '90's) felt that THE WEAK POINT of the band was/is their management. MP did everything he could to possibly keep fans updated but obviously that info left with him. It just thoroughly pisses me off that they announce a Euro tour without ANY idea of what's going on with the postponed US tour. I have other shows in that time frame and I'm not missing them because I'm afraid to pull the trigger in case DT EVER announces dates that may conflict. I'll take my money back now and buy later for .10C on the dollar which I should have from the start.
As we all know, the secondary market for tickets is notorious for selling at .10c on the dollar. *just play already* lol
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Just got notice that Oakland has been rescheduled for Feb 6!
NOOOOOOO! :(
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Just got notice that Oakland has been rescheduled for Feb 6!
NOOOOOOO! :(
Well Bosk, perhaps they'll play in Reno. That means you would have to drive over the snowy pass to get there right?
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Just got notice that Oakland has been rescheduled for Feb 6!
NOOOOOOO! :(
Well Bosk, perhaps they'll play in Reno. That means you would have to drive over the snowy pass to get there right?
Yeah, but if they did, it would either be right before or right after that date, and I am out of state at that time. I actually love that venue in Reno (and prefer the drive there to the drive to the Bay Area). But the scheduling just doesn't work.
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Any other dates on the west coast that you could realistically make the trip? I guess we need to see the itinerary first.. :lol
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Yeah, I'll have to see the schedule. But I kind of doubt it. It's too bad they won't be in Florida while I'm out there. I wouldn't mind catching them in another state.
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Just got notice that Oakland has been rescheduled for Feb 6!
NOOOOOOO! :(
Well Bosk, perhaps they'll play in Reno. That means you would have to drive over the snowy pass to get there right?
Yeah, but if they did, it would either be right before or right after that date, and I am out of state at that time. I actually love that venue in Reno (and prefer the drive there to the drive to the Bay Area). But the scheduling just doesn't work.
Oh no!!!! This is such a bummer! :'(
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Got the email today that Orlando has been rescheduled to March 15th. No update on the Tampa date though.
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Based on the rescheduled dates that have been confirmed, I have a feeling I'll have to pick between seeing Tool and DT. But we will see.
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Based on the rescheduled dates that have been confirmed, I have a feeling I'll have to pick between seeing Tool and DT. But we will see.
That's what I'm worried about, I have tickets to Tool in Tampa on the 2/9.
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Based on the rescheduled dates that have been confirmed, I have a feeling I'll have to pick between seeing Tool and DT. But we will see.
That's what I'm worried about, I have tickets to Tool in Tampa on the 2/9.
Apparently, they are in Los Angeles 2/5 and Oakland 2/6. I doubt they would be all the way across the country by 2/9 (although it would be awesome for ME if they were, since that is the time I will be there).
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Based on the rescheduled dates that have been confirmed, I have a feeling I'll have to pick between seeing Tool and DT. But we will see.
That's what I'm worried about, I have tickets to Tool in Tampa on the 2/9.
Apparently, they are in Los Angeles 2/5 and Oakland 2/6. I doubt they would be all the way across the country by 2/9 (although it would be awesome for ME if they were, since that is the time I will be there).
Exactly. The Los Angeles date was, I believe, the third date during the October through December run, while the St. Petersburg, FL show was either the last or one of the last dates. With Los Angeles and other early dates being rescheduled for early February, one can assume that the mid-December dates will be rescheduled for late March or early April.
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Yeah, if they are going to be in Orlando on March 15, I would think Tampa will land around there as well (plus/minus 3 days).
For me, the original date was the weekend after Thanksgiving. Do I think it will land around the end of February or first few days of March.
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These are the only dates we have so far in US >:( :censored
Feb 5 L.A.
Feb 6 Oak
Feb 19 Milwaukee
Mar 15 Orlando
Mar 16 St. Pete
and still not a damn peep by the band.....TERRIBLE! :tdwn
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These are the only dates we have so far in US >:( :censored
Feb 5 L.A.
Feb 6 Oak
Feb 19 Milwaukee
Mar 15 Orlando
Mar 16 St. Pete
and still not a damn peep by the band.....TERRIBLE! :tdwn
You forgot...
Feb 2 Mesa, AZ - Mesa Arts Center
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These are the only dates we have so far in US >:( :censored
Feb 5 L.A.
Feb 6 Oak
Feb 19 Milwaukee
Mar 15 Orlando
Mar 16 St. Pete
and still not a damn peep by the band.....TERRIBLE! :tdwn
They sent out the message when everything was being postponed saying the shows will be rescheduled. Now as they’re being rescheduled, people with tickets are getting messages. What do you want the band to say? “We’re working on it”? We already know that.
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These are the only dates we have so far in US >:( :censored
Feb 5 L.A.
Feb 6 Oak
Feb 19 Milwaukee
Mar 15 Orlando
Mar 16 St. Pete
and still not a damn peep by the band.....TERRIBLE! :tdwn
They sent out the message when everything was being postponed saying the shows will be rescheduled. Now as they’re being rescheduled, people with tickets are getting messages. What do you want the band to say? “We’re working on it”? We already know that.
A press release wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Something to the effect of: "We're trying to reschedule all of the dates and the same venues and in roughly the same order as they were originally announced. However, there may be some challenges with some venues," etc., etc. In other words, don't just leave it to the local promoters to do the communicating on a show-by-show basis.
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Just got an email about one of my shows. Akron is now Wednesday February 23. It's not on a Friday like it was before. Still going though. Not giving up front row! I also had 2 other shows planned. Hopefully at least one(if not both) gets rescheduled for a Friday or Saturday.
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I hope my Denver show is still on Saturday - or Friday. My son is going with me and is in college and works, so harder to get time off. We are traveling there. I am already going to 1 show alone, don't really want to do 2 that way. Denver is where I grew up, so I could maybe get an old school buddy to go with me - especially 3rd row! And Dream Theater! lol! My old rockers friends who don't know DT would be in for such a treat!! :metal
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These are the only dates we have so far in US >:( :censored
Feb 5 L.A.
Feb 6 Oak
Feb 19 Milwaukee
Mar 15 Orlando
Mar 16 St. Pete
and still not a damn peep by the band.....TERRIBLE! :tdwn
They sent out the message when everything was being postponed saying the shows will be rescheduled. Now as they’re being rescheduled, people with tickets are getting messages. What do you want the band to say? “We’re working on it”? We already know that.
A press release wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Something to the effect of: "We're trying to reschedule all of the dates and the same venues and in roughly the same order as they were originally announced. However, there may be some challenges with some venues," etc., etc. In other words, don't just leave it to the local promoters to do the communicating on a show-by-show basis.
That is all left for their Tour Manager to handle and deal with.
I am sure they did not expect this rescheduling to be as complicated as it seems.
The venues themselves are also their own entity and some are more helpful than others. Some venues are good at the communication, others are not. This is where issues arise with promoters, venues, and tour managers.
But also, it takes time to get these things situated and us fans just need to be patient. They stated these dates will be rescheduled and they will let us know once they are.
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These are the only dates we have so far in US >:( :censored
Feb 5 L.A.
Feb 6 Oak
Feb 19 Milwaukee
Mar 15 Orlando
Mar 16 St. Pete
and still not a damn peep by the band.....TERRIBLE! :tdwn
They sent out the message when everything was being postponed saying the shows will be rescheduled. Now as they’re being rescheduled, people with tickets are getting messages. What do you want the band to say? “We’re working on it”? We already know that.
A press release wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Something to the effect of: "We're trying to reschedule all of the dates and the same venues and in roughly the same order as they were originally announced. However, there may be some challenges with some venues," etc., etc. In other words, don't just leave it to the local promoters to do the communicating on a show-by-show basis.
The venues themselves are also their own entity and some are more helpful than others. Some venues are good at the communication, others are not. This is where issues arise with promoters, venues, and tour managers.
And this is why the band should release a statement to let their loyal fans know what is going on. I had great seats for the San Diego show. Apparently that show was just cancelled, as we automatically received refunds. Are they looking to reschedule at a different venue in SD? The bands press release stated "all shows are being rescheduled" If not I'll probably go to the LA show, but it'd be nice to know before buying tickets for LA. I've also seen a lot of confusion concerning some of the other shows (apparently the Chicago show is still happening next week according to Ticketmaster). I think it would behoove the band at this point to issue another statement updating us on where they are in the process.
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I don’t wanna make an argument out of this but I really don’t understand what the point of that is. We already know that they’re working on it. We already know that they’re in the process of it. And it’s not the band that’s doing it, it’s their management and booking agents. They are working with the promoters and the venues. They can’t make a statement for every single show that gets canceled and postponed, they don’t need to, you’ll get an email from the venue or the promoter when that happens.
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These are the only dates we have so far in US >:( :censored
Feb 5 L.A.
Feb 6 Oak
Feb 19 Milwaukee
Mar 15 Orlando
Mar 16 St. Pete
and still not a damn peep by the band.....TERRIBLE! :tdwn
They sent out the message when everything was being postponed saying the shows will be rescheduled. Now as they’re being rescheduled, people with tickets are getting messages. What do you want the band to say? “We’re working on it”? We already know that.
A press release wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Something to the effect of: "We're trying to reschedule all of the dates and the same venues and in roughly the same order as they were originally announced. However, there may be some challenges with some venues," etc., etc. In other words, don't just leave it to the local promoters to do the communicating on a show-by-show basis.
The venues themselves are also their own entity and some are more helpful than others. Some venues are good at the communication, others are not. This is where issues arise with promoters, venues, and tour managers.
And this is why the band should release a statement to let their loyal fans know what is going on. I had great seats for the San Diego show. Apparently that show was just cancelled, as we automatically received refunds. Are they looking to reschedule at a different venue in SD? The bands press release stated "all shows are being rescheduled" If not I'll probably go to the LA show, but it'd be nice to know before buying tickets for LA. I've also seen a lot of confusion concerning some of the other shows (apparently the Chicago show is still happening next week according to Ticketmaster). I think it would behoove the band at this point to issue another statement updating us on where they are in the process.
"All shows are being rescheduled" is not a guaranteed statement. There are many things that need to be settled before even finalizing a rescheduled date.
I have noticed the venues that have their own ticketing systems, such as the Mesa Arts Center, are more upfront about it. Some venues are kind enough to notify their ticketholders. This is nothing the band or their management can do anything about.
I know it sucks, but it's the fallout of the situation we are all in right now. The venue likely has short staff as well and maybe only have one person that deals with this stuff and could be dealing with some situations on their own end.
I do hope you guys do get your dates situated soon and the band will release the new rescheduled tour so people can buy tickets. At least by Thanksgiving.
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The point is to assuage the fans who see the lack of communication as neglect. And while "we already know that they're working on it," we don't know details that are important to a lot of folks. I'm fortunate in that I know the rescheduled date for my show, and it's on the same day of the week as before. But it would be nice to know what the specifics of their plan is. If it's not important to you, that's fine, but it's obviously meaningful to a lot of folks.
Also, when folks refer to "the band" in this sort of context, their talking about the various business entities that are owned by the band members -- in this case, Infinity Tours, Inc. No one needs a phone call from JR himself.
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The point is to assuage the fans who see the lack of communication as neglect. And while "we already know that they're working on it," we don't know details that are important to a lot of folks. I'm fortunate in that I know the rescheduled date for my show, and it's on the same day of the week as before. But it would be nice to know what the specifics of their plan is. If it's not important to you, that's fine, but it's obviously meaningful to a lot of folks.
Also, when folks refer to "the band" in this sort of context, their talking about the various business entities that are owned by the band members -- in this case, Infinity Tours, Inc. No one needs a phone call from JR himself.
The thing is that at this point, they probably don’t know much more than what we know. They said they planned to have the shows rescheduled to starting in Feb. Which is what seems is happening. So, what exactly is the information that you want? They they can provide right now, that we don’t already know?
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I'm with pg1067 on this. It's not that they need to provide us with specifics that, admittedly, they probably don't have yet - but by issuing an "update", this would maybe "reassure" their fans that they're on it and doing what they can to make this work. I'm sure they are, but the radio silence is lame IMO and not the way I'd run my business. I'd be updating my customers on the progress.
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The point is to assuage the fans who see the lack of communication as neglect. And while "we already know that they're working on it," we don't know details that are important to a lot of folks. I'm fortunate in that I know the rescheduled date for my show, and it's on the same day of the week as before. But it would be nice to know what the specifics of their plan is. If it's not important to you, that's fine, but it's obviously meaningful to a lot of folks.
Also, when folks refer to "the band" in this sort of context, their talking about the various business entities that are owned by the band members -- in this case, Infinity Tours, Inc. No one needs a phone call from JR himself.
The fans just need to have patience. As stated there is more than we all know, and the band also doesn't know much at all. That information is between their tour manager, promoters, and the venue. Somewhere in there is some miscommunication or something else entirely occurring. Knowing how the pandemic is affecting a lot of different areas of the music business, we should expect there to be some issues arising.
Us as fans can only be patient. It's very unfortunate, but it's what it is. Complaining about a situation that is out of the bands control isn't going to make these dates be announced quicker. You would have to demand the venue, contact their tour manager, and even the promoter to find out exactly what is going on that is making the venue show the band is still playing. We know from the band these dates are not going to happen, if people go it's on the venue. I would be directing my anger at the venue itself for claiming the show is still going to happen when the band themselves issued a statement. That shows me it's either the promoters or the venue itself that is causing the issue, not the band.
I am not expecting, or demanding the band to release another statement when that is not in their control. The ones who should be issuing a statement are the venues, and many actually did. Mesa Arts Center, emailed me a copy of the statement from the band, then later on emailed a statement about the new rescheduled date.
The venues are the ones who can issue refunds for the tickets. The communication neglect is on the venues, not the band.
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The point is to assuage the fans who see the lack of communication as neglect. And while "we already know that they're working on it," we don't know details that are important to a lot of folks. I'm fortunate in that I know the rescheduled date for my show, and it's on the same day of the week as before. But it would be nice to know what the specifics of their plan is. If it's not important to you, that's fine, but it's obviously meaningful to a lot of folks.
Also, when folks refer to "the band" in this sort of context, their talking about the various business entities that are owned by the band members -- in this case, Infinity Tours, Inc. No one needs a phone call from JR himself.
When you're right, you're right! Details not needed but being left in the dark is uncool. A simple "hey guys, we are in the process of rescheduling show dates, thanks for your patience and support through this" would be so simple and respectful to all the fans who spend their money and time on the band they love. It takes literally seconds to keep us updated. :huh:
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If they wouldn't have postponed, DT would have played in Seattle last night. So last night I decided to blast the new album louder than ever and imagined seeing them playing it live. It was a fantastic show! :metal
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The point is to assuage the fans who see the lack of communication as neglect. And while "we already know that they're working on it," we don't know details that are important to a lot of folks. I'm fortunate in that I know the rescheduled date for my show, and it's on the same day of the week as before. But it would be nice to know what the specifics of their plan is. If it's not important to you, that's fine, but it's obviously meaningful to a lot of folks.
Also, when folks refer to "the band" in this sort of context, their talking about the various business entities that are owned by the band members -- in this case, Infinity Tours, Inc. No one needs a phone call from JR himself.
When you're right, you're right! Details not needed but being left in the dark is uncool. A simple "hey guys, we are in the process of rescheduling show dates, thanks for your patience and support through this" would be so simple and respectful to all the fans who spend their money and time on the band they love. It takes literally seconds to keep us updated. :huh:
Agreed. I think some fans need to be a littler more patient and understanding, but I do think it would be a nice gesture for JP or one of the others to post something online with the above sentiment (and not a statement that reads like a press release written by their record company's PR department :lol). The personal touch of a message from a band member to the fans would go a long way. :coolio :coolio
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Got my email!!
Boston is Friday 2/25!!!
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It's gonna be 12 days of Dream Theater tour date announcements! :corn
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Got my email!!
Boston is Friday 2/25!!!
Lets meet up man!!!
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Got my email!!
Boston is Friday 2/25!!!
Lets meet up man!!!
You going? Definitely. Probably just to say hi at the show but that’s be cool.
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Got my email!!
Boston is Friday 2/25!!!
Lets meet up man!!!
You going? Definitely. Probably just to say hi at the show but that’s be cool.
Well yeah and grab a pic maybe. I was hoping we can do a duet of Take The Time but that and a sleepover are out of the question? :lol
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Got my email!!
Boston is Friday 2/25!!!
Lets meet up man!!!
You going? Definitely. Probably just to say hi at the show but that’s be cool.
Well yeah and grab a pic maybe. I was hoping we can do a duet of Take The Time but that and a sleepover are out of the question? :lol
:lol
Definitely grab a Pic!
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Chicago set for 2/20
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So far, these are the new confirmed dates:
2/2 Mesa, AZ
2/5 Los Angeles, CA
2/6 Oakland, CA
2/19 Milwaukee, WI
2/20 Chicago, IL
2/23 Akron, OH
2/25 Boston, MA
3/15 Orlando, FL
3/16 St. Petersburg, FL
We'll probably get the rest this week, or at least most of them.
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I’m guessing Dallas will be early March.
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red bank nj rescheduled for March 9th!
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So far, these are the new confirmed dates:
2/2 Mesa, AZ
2/5 Los Angeles, CA
2/6 Oakland, CA
2/19 Milwaukee, WI
2/20 Chicago, IL
2/23 Akron, OH
2/25 Boston, MA
3/9 Red Bank, NJ
3/15 Orlando, FL
3/16 St. Petersburg, FL
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So far, these are the new confirmed dates:
2/2 Mesa, AZ
2/5 Los Angeles, CA
2/6 Oakland, CA
2/19 Milwaukee, WI
2/20 Chicago, IL
2/23 Akron, OH
2/25 Boston, MA
3/9 Red Bank, NJ
3/15 Orlando, FL
3/16 St. Petersburg, FL
This does not bode well for my cancelled 12/4/21 show in St. Louis. Would seem it'd have been in that 2/19 - 2/23 time frame. :censored
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School vacation? You guys going away?
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So far, these are the new confirmed dates:
2/2 Mesa, AZ
2/5 Los Angeles, CA
2/6 Oakland, CA
2/19 Milwaukee, WI
2/20 Chicago, IL
2/23 Akron, OH
2/25 Boston, MA
3/9 Red Bank, NJ
3/15 Orlando, FL
3/16 St. Petersburg, FL
This does not bode well for my cancelled 12/4/21 show in St. Louis. Would seem it'd have been in that 2/19 - 2/23 time frame. :censored
I have tickets for 12/3/21 and I figure it'll be sometime between March 1-15 based on what we've seen in the rescheduled dates so far.
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So far, these are the new confirmed dates:
2/2 Mesa, AZ
2/5 Los Angeles, CA
2/6 Oakland, CA
2/19 Milwaukee, WI
2/20 Chicago, IL
2/23 Akron, OH
2/25 Boston, MA
3/9 Red Bank, NJ
3/15 Orlando, FL
3/16 St. Petersburg, FL
This does not bode well for my cancelled 12/4/21 show in St. Louis. Would seem it'd have been in that 2/19 - 2/23 time frame. :censored
Don't give up hope there's plenty of days between 2/6 and 2/19, as well as a few days between 2/20 and 2/23. I'm still holding out hope San Diego will be rescheduled on either 2/3 or 2/4, between the Mesa and LA shows
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School vacation? You guys going away?
Depending on dates that'd dictate if we traveled or not. That's what was good about 12/4. It was a Saturday night in St. Louis.....no travel and no school night.
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School vacation? You guys going away?
Depending on dates that'd dictate if we traveled or not. That's what was good about 12/4. It was a Saturday night in St. Louis.....no travel and no school night.
That sucks!
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School vacation? You guys going away?
Depending on dates that'd dictate if we traveled or not. That's what was good about 12/4. It was a Saturday night in St. Louis.....no travel and no school night.
For sure. This getting rescheduled to a weeknight/work night will suck for sure, and seems almost inevitable at this point, if it gets rescheduled at all.
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March 9 lands on a Wednesday so I guess I'll wait and see the CT date and Brooklyn.
I was skipping NJ because it was originally on a Monday, Wednesday is not any better.
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March 9 lands on a Wednesday so I guess I'll wait and see the CT date and Brooklyn.
I was skipping NJ because it was originally on a Monday, Wednesday is not any better.
Not doing the Boston show now so CT or NY it shall be.
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Just picked up tickets for my Godson and me in Boston. It will be his first concert...he's turning 13 and what a way to start your concert-going life! I haven't seen them since ADTOE tour and only one other time before then (Gigantour). I'm pumped for this. I can' wait to see what they do for a setlist.
-Tof
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I hope they announce my new date soon because I'd like to see Greta Van Fleet at the end of march and wanna make sure that isn't the day of my DT show.
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I hope they announce my new date soon because I'd like to see Greta Van Fleet at the end of march and wanna make sure that isn't the day of my DT show.
I am working on the arrangements to see their second night in AC in April. I just saw them in Atlanta last weekend, SOOO good!
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I hope they announce my new date soon because I'd like to see Greta Van Fleet at the end of march and wanna make sure that isn't the day of my DT show.
I am working on the arrangements to see their second night in AC in April. I just saw them in Atlanta last weekend, SOOO good!
Nice! I've never seen them live so I'm definitely excited to see a hometown date on the upcoming tour!
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red bank nj rescheduled for March 9th!
I just got my email for this, date works for me. Current plan is to go to Vegas on the 11th for 3/11 Day concert so I may just take the 8th off as well after this show and make it a long concert weekend.
Well, even if those full plans don't work out, I am keeping my front row ticket for Red Bank.
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Fingers crossed for Saturday 2/26 in CT, the venue has an open calendar that night too!!
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Fingers crossed for Saturday 2/26 in CT, the venue has an open calendar that night too!!
I have front row tickets for the CT show and my fear is that it will land on 2/26 lol
Tool is playing that day and I wanted to go see them as well. Plus, it's my birthday that day, and my partner doesn't like DT. I'm sure she will go if need be, but I rather have a birthday celebration outside of a DT show lol but I am waiting patiently :corn
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Fingers crossed for Saturday 2/26 in CT, the venue has an open calendar that night too!!
A Saturday date would be amazing! :metal
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Patiently waiting for the Austin reschedule, which I hope to God isn't during South By Southwest when traffic and parking are horrendous.
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Fingers crossed for Saturday 2/26 in CT, the venue has an open calendar that night too!!
A Saturday date would be amazing! :metal
If that were the date, I'd consider going for a 2nd show. The original dates I had the Philly area show as potential weekend second show I can get to easily. Maybe with the new dats, CT becomes that option.
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Guys it's getting pretty comical at this point.. seriously..just got email from Tunespeak for a chance to win free tickets to the Dallas show in Dec..and when you click on link all the Nov - Dec dates are still there to win tickets..it's sad now at this point
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That is fucked.
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Yeah, this is actually a joke at this point. We have lives. We need to know the new dates for planning purposes.
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Fingers crossed for Saturday 2/26 in CT, the venue has an open calendar that night too!!
A Saturday date would be amazing! :metal
If that were the date, I'd consider going for a 2nd show. The original dates I had the Philly area show as potential weekend second show I can get to easily. Maybe with the new dats, CT becomes that option.
I was going to offer to have a DTF BBQ the afternoon of if the show were to be on a Saturday, but then I remembered it'd be in February :lol
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Fingers crossed for Saturday 2/26 in CT, the venue has an open calendar that night too!!
A Saturday date would be amazing! :metal
If that were the date, I'd consider going for a 2nd show. The original dates I had the Philly area show as potential weekend second show I can get to easily. Maybe with the new dats, CT becomes that option.
I was going to offer to have a DTF BBQ the afternoon of if the show were to be on a Saturday, but then I remembered it'd be in February :lol
Sounds like a Chino problem, not a DTF problem. We'll be there. Have the burnt ends ready.
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:lol :lol
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Fingers crossed for Saturday 2/26 in CT, the venue has an open calendar that night too!!
A Saturday date would be amazing! :metal
If that were the date, I'd consider going for a 2nd show. The original dates I had the Philly area show as potential weekend second show I can get to easily. Maybe with the new dats, CT becomes that option.
I was going to offer to have a DTF BBQ the afternoon of if the show were to be on a Saturday, but then I remembered it'd be in February :lol
Sounds like a Chino problem, not a DTF problem. We'll be there. Have the burnt ends ready.
I would have definitely taken you up on that! If this show happens and anyone is up for a bbq meet up at Bear's in Hartford or Windsor I'd be up for that.
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Fingers crossed for Saturday 2/26 in CT, the venue has an open calendar that night too!!
A Saturday date would be amazing! :metal
If that were the date, I'd consider going for a 2nd show. The original dates I had the Philly area show as potential weekend second show I can get to easily. Maybe with the new dats, CT becomes that option.
I was going to offer to have a DTF BBQ the afternoon of if the show were to be on a Saturday, but then I remembered it'd be in February :lol
Sounds like a Chino problem, not a DTF problem. We'll be there. Have the burnt ends ready.
I would have definitely taken you up on that! If this show happens and anyone is up for a bbq meet up at Bear's in Hartford or Windsor I'd be up for that.
I'd be interested in something like that. I just heard yesterday that The Flying Pig (Bear's sister restaurant and original location) went under :(
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Back when he put the hi hats above his head I said - hes only doing that to make a point and 100% after the tour they'll be back down at normal height.- sure enough the new album was recorded on a
'regular' 5 piece kit like you or I would play. Plus the rocket toms.
It's interesting that since A Dramatic Turn Of Events - his kit has gotten progressively (npi) smaller with each album and now he's basically playing a more 'regular' 5 piece kit.
(Yes I know this is the tour thread but i didn't know where else to post it. Just thought it was interesting.... Is age getting to him? Maybe he's decided to make it easier on himself ?
Pretty sure I saw him say that playing the hi hats above his head for a whole gig did make his arms and back ache...)
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Back when he put the hi hats above his head I said - hes only doing that to make a point and 100% after the tour they'll be back down at normal height.- sure enough the new album was recorded on a
'regular' 5 piece kit like you or I would play. Plus the rocket toms.
It's interesting that since A Dramatic Turn Of Events - his kit has gotten progressively (npi) smaller with each album and now he's basically playing a more 'regular' 5 piece kit.
(Yes I know this is the tour thread but i didn't know where else to post it. Just thought it was interesting.... Is age getting to him? Maybe he's decided to make it easier on himself ?
Pretty sure I saw him say that playing the hi hats above his head for a whole gig did make his arms and back ache...)
The room the band created the music in was so small that if he did bring his entire kit then it'd just be him in that room with the guys in a corner. :lol
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Yes that too. But i'm pretty sure he's said that the recording kit is also the touring kit so we shall see.
I think it would look a lot better playing a small(er) kit for a change.
I always thought it was silly when he said he needed everything on the Dramatic Turn kit to play " The DT catalogue "
When Portnoy played the "DT Catalogue" just fine and his (normal, right side kit) was nowhere near that big.
( 8 toms, 4 bass drums 4 electro pads etc )
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Yes that too. But i'm pretty sure he's said that the recording kit is also the touring kit so we shall see.
I think it would look a lot better playing a small(er) kit for a change.
I always thought it was silly when he said he needed everything on the Dramatic Turn kit to play " The DT catalogue "
When Portnoy played the "DT Catalogue" just fine and his (normal, right side kit) was nowhere near that big.
( 8 toms, 4 bass drums 4 electro pads etc )
Didn’t know Mangini had another gig. I just can’t stop watching this!!!!
https://youtu.be/ItZyaOlrb7E
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Oh yeah, he's great!
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Oh yeah, he's great!
Like Blas from the band Slaughter! :lol
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I wouldn't know. ;D
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Yes that too. But i'm pretty sure he's said that the recording kit is also the touring kit so we shall see.
I think it would look a lot better playing a small(er) kit for a change.
I always thought it was silly when he said he needed everything on the Dramatic Turn kit to play " The DT catalogue "
When Portnoy played the "DT Catalogue" just fine and his (normal, right side kit) was nowhere near that big.
( 8 toms, 4 bass drums 4 electro pads etc )
Didn’t know Mangini had another gig. I just can’t stop watching this!!!!
https://youtu.be/ItZyaOlrb7E
:rollin
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Well no DT on the 30th of Nov. but WICKED on Broadway with my daughter will be fun...still waiting on the new Brooklyn date for next year
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Wicked Pissah !
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I’ve never been more pissed ..Kings Theater completely canceled and gotta go through all this ticket master crap all over again not knowing when we will get our money back..new date at Beacon Theater
..anyone know how long it takes to get refunded?
At this point I honestly don't think I'm going thru this shit anymore more flight plans that might get screwed..more ticketmaster bull crap not knowing when we will get our original nearly 500 dollars back... I've been uplifted from deep dark times by Dream Theater now it's all disappointment lately..not musically but the way all this has been handled is awful
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I’ve never been more pissed ..Kings Theater completely canceled and gotta go through all this ticket master crap all over again not knowing when we will get our money back..new date at Beacon Theater
..anyone know how long it takes to get refunded?
At this point I honestly don't think I'm going thru this shit anymore more flight plans that might get screwed..more ticketmaster bull crap not knowing when we will get our original nearly 500 dollars back... I've been uplifted from deep dark times by Dream Theater now it's all disappointment lately..not musically but the way all this has been handled is awful
I really get where you are coming from. I have 2 shows I am waiting to hear about. Both are travel for me.
I just like to keep this in mind. Covid has cause everything to be shit.
There is no good customer service for anything now. Food. Home repair. Auto care. And more. I haven't even had a hot fench fry from McDonald's in 2 years. Everyone is understaffed. I really have had to change how I look at everything service-wise. I think most places are doing the best they can with what they have.
The only exception is that Ticketbastard have sucked for a long time.
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I’ve never been more pissed ..Kings Theater completely canceled and gotta go through all this ticket master crap all over again not knowing when we will get our money back..new date at Beacon Theater
..anyone know how long it takes to get refunded?
At this point I honestly don't think I'm going thru this shit anymore more flight plans that might get screwed..more ticketmaster bull crap not knowing when we will get our original nearly 500 dollars back... I've been uplifted from deep dark times by Dream Theater now it's all disappointment lately..not musically but the way all this has been handled is awful
I have a sneaky suspicion I’m going to have the same battle on my hands. Judging from the dates they’ve rescheduled near St. Louis I don’t see a lot of wiggle room to fit them in.
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I’ve never been more pissed ..Kings Theater completely canceled and gotta go through all this ticket master crap all over again not knowing when we will get our money back..new date at Beacon Theater
..anyone know how long it takes to get refunded?
At this point I honestly don't think I'm going thru this shit anymore more flight plans that might get screwed..more ticketmaster bull crap not knowing when we will get our original nearly 500 dollars back... I've been uplifted from deep dark times by Dream Theater now it's all disappointment lately..not musically but the way all this has been handled is awful
Sucks that they cancelled completely. When is the Beacon Theater show?
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Ticketbastard sent email..March 4...here’s what’s nuts..presale tomorrow morning..yet we won’t get our refund for who knows how long..if it was at Kings Theater we would have our 4 th row dead center seats...now I’m not even sure if I’m gonna go thru it all to try to fly up a second time..tickets ..airlines..
Etc.. just to stressful for me right now..I’m not handling this well at all
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I do wish there was a little more communication with these kind of things. But it is what it is.
This Beacon Theater show is a better option for me than CT. I have Front Row tickets to CT but haven't receive a new date yet. I see the presale for Beacon Theater is for those who bought tickets before already. I'll try to grab a pair and if I do, I'll request a refund for the CT tickets.
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I dont go to gigs anymore for a number of reasons. But the uncertainty of your gig actually happening is yet another.
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Since DT already postponed once while covid isn't raging, kind of makes me think i wouldn't book a flight to see the new dates because they may postpone again.
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God I'm so f mad...logged in to Ticketmaster with precode and previous buyer unlock and it won't allow me to purchase when seats are selected..this is so fucked up
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God I'm so f mad...logged in to Ticketmaster with precode and previous buyer unlock and it won't allow me to purchase when seats are selected..this is so fucked up
I do not understand this. The same thing happened to me when I bought tickets . I just kept repeating and finally got it. But they inflate the prices also! Premium seating. It's such a racquet. Almost better to go aftermarket. Which I did for one of the shows because it never worked at all on Ticketbastard :tdwn
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Can someone please please help with this crap..get JP or James or DT management to adress this
Ticketmaster and venue websites contradict each other ..Kings Theater still says postponed hang on to tickets as well as Tickmaster yet Tickmaster sends link to Beacon presale..this is beyond messed up and needs to be addressed asap or they will start losing fanbase
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sounds like it's gonna be the beacon in that case
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It literally says postponed ..your tickets are still valid on Tickmaster for Kings Theater
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Just got a Bandsintown message that the Austin show is on March 21, 2022.
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Saturday March 5 for CT!
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Saturday March 5 for CT!
I'm literally so happy I could cry. I adore the new album and if I had to miss this tour altogether I'd be heartbroken.
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New Toronto date......Wednesday March 2nd.
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Saturday March 5 for CT!
I'm literally so happy I could cry. I adore the new album and if I had to miss this tour altogether I'd be heartbroken.
Did you two get emails from Ticket Master about this? I didn't see any come through.
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DC at The Warner Theater on Sunday, March 6th.
I'll probably host a preshow again at a nearby establishment. We had over 70 attendees on Tax Day 2019.
Added bonus: no Capitals game!
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Got messages from Bandsintown.
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Saturday March 5 for CT!
I'm literally so happy I could cry. I adore the new album and if I had to miss this tour altogether I'd be heartbroken.
Did you two get emails from Ticket Master about this? I didn't see any come through.
Same, did not receive anything yet. If it really is March 5, then I guess im keeping my tickets :metal
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Saturday March 5 for CT!
I'm literally so happy I could cry. I adore the new album and if I had to miss this tour altogether I'd be heartbroken.
Did you two get emails from Ticket Master about this? I didn't see any come through.
Mine came from Bandsintown, I checked LiveNation app and the new date hasn't been updated there yet
EDIT - it's official on DT.net
https://dreamtheater.net/tour/
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Awesome :metal Thanks for that.
I'm ok with March 4th. I might try to go to both NYC and CT show, should be fun
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I have a sneaky suspicion I’m going to have the same battle on my hands. Judging from the dates they’ve rescheduled near St. Louis I don’t see a lot of wiggle room to fit them in.
Happy to report I was completely wrong about this and St. Louis did get a reschedule date of Tuesday, February 15th.
Looks like the kiddos will get a day off school the next day. Bummer it wasn’t on a weekend like the original date but I’ll take it!
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I am so happy! My Denver reschedule was from a Saturday to a Saturday! My Houston Date went from Sat to Friday, but that is very doable! Now, the wait continues.....
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Cincinnati February 16... much earlier than I expected (I expected a March date)... went from a Friday to a Wednesday but oh well. I'm excited!
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Seattle show got moved south to Kent putting it about 20 minutes from my front door.
I might end up hitting this tour after all.
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Well dang! I had front row balcony seats for the Paramount theater in Seattle, but now they changed the venue to the Showare Arena in Kent. I bought the Paramount club seating so the tickets won't be honored at a different venue.
Looks like I have to get my money back and buy tickets all over again. So much for getting great seats. Oh well, at least they're coming to the Seattle area.. :chill
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Hell yeah, a date for Raleigh was added for March!
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Hmmm, I do love seeing DT at the Beacon Theatre in NYC. Them moving from Brooklyn to this venue is much better for me. Now do I go to that show on Friday or make the drive to CT for the show on Saturday??
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CT has better pizza. Pretty easy choice if you ask me.
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CT has better pizza. Pretty easy choice if you ask me.
That is completely untrue IMO. NYC pizza is significantly better from my experience. I seriously don't understand the love for CT pizza. Even NJ pizza is better. But I don't think pizza plays a role here. If there's going to be a DTF get together in CT that would probably sway me.
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Looks like they'll be a San Diego area show now after all. Friday Feb 4th in El Cajon (10-15 miles east of SD). Tickets go on sale tomorrow for previous buyers, but I haven't received any notification from Ticketmaster with a previous buyers password. What password have you guys been using for the previous buyers sale?
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CT has better pizza. Pretty easy choice if you ask me.
That is completely untrue IMO. NYC pizza is significantly better from my experience. I seriously don't understand the love for CT pizza. Even NJ pizza is better. But I don't think pizza plays a role here. If there's going to be a DTF get together in CT that would probably sway me.
How about BOTH CT and NY? :) :)
There's a good wing place/bar about 5 minutes from the Oakdale (there's a plaque on the stool where I met El Barto in person for the first time! Haha!), or New Haven is only a couple exits down the road and there are some good bars there.
New Haven pizza is the bomb, but it's not all that different from good NYC pizza (Lombardi's, for example). I think it's like comparing supermodels, frankly.
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Where I've had pizza in CT was in New Haven, I didn't think it was anything like NYC pizza, but not that different from other brick over places I've eaten.
The only reason I'm not likely to do both CT and NY is because I am 100% in for NJ with my front row ticket. And with a bunch of other concerts on my schedule in early March, it seems I'll need to decide between CT and NY if I can even do a 2nd show. Really doubt I do 3 shows unless the setlists varies enough to make it worth the effort.
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So I see the band had to find different venues to accommodate the same tour schedule of cities. That explains the delay a bit.
I am still amused at the venues that were still listing the shows as if they were still happening.
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Damn still nothing for Philly. Come on guys
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Hell yeah, a date for Raleigh was added for March!
What? No way!
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Damn still nothing for Philly. Come on guys
MAR 8, 2022
The Met
Philadelphia, PA
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Damn still nothing for Philly. Come on guys
MAR 8, 2022
The Met
Philadelphia, PA
Just got that notification after posting this. So glad it's been rescheduled
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Rochester is canceled according to the venue's website. Oh well, I still have 2 others. The only thing that sucks is they both went from Friday to Wednesday.
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NYC The Beacon Theatre.....damn, by that time it will have been 48 years since Queen opened for Mott the Hoople for a five night stay in May of '74. I might just have to drive up to see the venue.
oh, and NY pizza in a heart beat :metal :tup :D
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We will be joined by Arch Echo in the USA and Falset in Canada.
Nepotism at it's finest!
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It was sad to see Portland, OR dropped off the list, as they weren't able to reschedule. Oh well, if I don't make it to Seattle, at least I still have the Ghost/Volbeat show to look forward to
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hrmm no Charlotte date yet, wonder if that will even be rescheduled...
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It was sad to see Portland, OR dropped off the list, as they weren't able to reschedule. Oh well, if I don't make it to Seattle, at least I still have the Ghost/Volbeat show to look forward to
I'm sure it would be worth the trip up to Seattle for you. I've driven to Portland to see shows a few times and it's not that bad of a drive.
It seems like a odd choice to pick that arena in Kent, as it is over 7,000 capacity. Unless people drive from Portland and Vancouver B.C., plus the local Seattle crowd, the venue will be half empty. Even though DT more than deserves to sell out arena's like that, The Paramount would have been the more logical place. I also see that there's no bookings for the Paramount on Feb 8th, I wonder why they couldn't secure it??
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hrmm no Charlotte date yet, wonder if that will even be rescheduled...
Yeah... Ticketbastard still says "Date TBA" but methinks the Raleigh NC date will be replacing it. I see no way they get from Redstank NJ to Charlotte NC during the day on 3-10 to play the Charlotte show.
Redstank in an Impractical Jokers reference by the way...
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I'm so happy my show got rebooked to a date I can go as I have a trip with my lady around that time. Moreover, I'm much more familiar to the material so yay!
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NYC The Beacon Theatre.....damn, by that time it will have been 48 years since Queen opened for Mott the Hoople for a five night stay in May of '74.
that was at the URIS THEATER NOT the beacon. They played the Beacon for 4 nights in Feb. of '76. I was at both the URIS & Beacon shows :metal
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Aaaaaand of course the Minneapolis date is rescheduled during one of 6-7 days out of the year I’m out of state traveling for work.
I’ll have to see if I can get a refund? Otherwise anyone want front row balcony (Petrucci side) for the Minneapolis show?
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Looks like they'll be a San Diego area show now after all. Friday Feb 4th in El Cajon (10-15 miles east of SD). Tickets go on sale tomorrow for previous buyers, but I haven't received any notification from Ticketmaster with a previous buyers password. What password have you guys been using for the previous buyers sale?
Hi there, I have not received a notification either. Ditto for a couple buddies. I had front row center to the original SD show so super bummed the venue got changed. The only email i received was the TM cancellation/refund last month. So TM/LN lists a "previous buyers presale" for 10am PST this morning. . . so which previous buyers have received an email? Looks like TM botched this one (surprise, surprise) as i got jack... checked spam folder too. Have any San Diego attendees received an email with passcode for today?
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I got a notification from the venue that the Cincinnati show was rescheduled for Feb 16, but it wasn't updated on Ticketmaster yet (as of yesterday).
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I got a notification from the venue that the Cincinnati show was rescheduled for Feb 16, but it wasn't updated on Ticketmaster yet (as of yesterday).
It is now. I thought I remember seeing it as being updated yesterday. I could be wrong though.
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hrmm no Charlotte date yet, wonder if that will even be rescheduled...
Yeah... Ticketbastard still says "Date TBA" but methinks the Raleigh NC date will be replacing it. I see no way they get from Redstank NJ to Charlotte NC during the day on 3-10 to play the Charlotte show.
Redstank in an Impractical Jokers reference by the way...
Yeah, I imagine Raleigh is replacing Charlotte.
Which works out well for me lol
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Looks like they'll be a San Diego area show now after all. Friday Feb 4th in El Cajon (10-15 miles east of SD). Tickets go on sale tomorrow for previous buyers, but I haven't received any notification from Ticketmaster with a previous buyers password. What password have you guys been using for the previous buyers sale?
Hi there, I have not received a notification either. Ditto for a couple buddies. I had front row center to the original SD show so super bummed the venue got changed. The only email i received was the TM cancellation/refund last month. So TM/LN lists a "previous buyers presale" for 10am PST this morning. . . so which previous buyers have received an email? Looks like TM botched this one (surprise, surprise) as i got jack... checked spam folder too. Have any San Diego attendees received an email with passcode for today?
Yep, same here. Can anyone tell us what the password was/is for the "previous buyers presale" for any of the other cities? Maybe it's the same password. Thanks
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Just a heads up for DC: the mask mandate was removed as of today in the District. Now, as to the Warner.... we were there for a show a week ago, and mask mandates and proof of being vaxxed were still in effect. One doesn't know what it will be like on March 6th. Things change. Just be prepared, and be safe.
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FYI, the San Diego "previous buyers" presale password is CIVIC, just like it was for the original show at the other venue.
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Ticket Master wouldn't let me buy the two tickets I selected because it would have stranded a single ticket, so I ended up only being able to buy one. What sense is that???
EDIT: I ended up also buying 2 tickets in 5th row in El Cajon at the pre-buyers price. Will decide at some point if i want to sell my single front row center ticket which I also bought at the steep platinum price.
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Looks like they'll be a San Diego area show now after all. Friday Feb 4th in El Cajon (10-15 miles east of SD). Tickets go on sale tomorrow for previous buyers, but I haven't received any notification from Ticketmaster with a previous buyers password. What password have you guys been using for the previous buyers sale?
Hi there, I have not received a notification either. Ditto for a couple buddies. I had front row center to the original SD show so super bummed the venue got changed. The only email i received was the TM cancellation/refund last month. So TM/LN lists a "previous buyers presale" for 10am PST this morning. . . so which previous buyers have received an email? Looks like TM botched this one (surprise, surprise) as i got jack... checked spam folder too. Have any San Diego attendees received an email with passcode for today?
Quick update. I got the email from Emporiumpresents at 10:03, so 3 minutes after the pre-sale had started - ridiculous! Passcode is CIVIC
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Looks like they'll be a San Diego area show now after all. Friday Feb 4th in El Cajon (10-15 miles east of SD). Tickets go on sale tomorrow for previous buyers, but I haven't received any notification from Ticketmaster with a previous buyers password. What password have you guys been using for the previous buyers sale?
Hi there, I have not received a notification either. Ditto for a couple buddies. I had front row center to the original SD show so super bummed the venue got changed. The only email i received was the TM cancellation/refund last month. So TM/LN lists a "previous buyers presale" for 10am PST this morning. . . so which previous buyers have received an email? Looks like TM botched this one (surprise, surprise) as i got jack... checked spam folder too. Have any San Diego attendees received an email with passcode for today?
Quick update. I got the email from Emporiumpresents at 10:03, so 3 minutes after the pre-sale had started - ridiculous! Passcode is CIVIC
LOL I got the email at 10:02 (presale started at 10:00) with the password. Ended up with 6th row center.
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Ticket Master wouldn't let me buy the two tickets I selected because it would have stranded a single ticket, so I ended up only being able to buy one. What sense is that???
EDIT: I ended up also buying 2 tickets in 5th row in El Cajon at the pre-buyers price. Will decide at some point if i want to sell my single front row center ticket which I also bought at the steep platinum price.
$250 for front row? I was seeing 5th row at I believe $225 - and then the 6th row was $79.50 - so I jumped on those.
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Ticket Master wouldn't let me buy the two tickets I selected because it would have stranded a single ticket, so I ended up only being able to buy one. What sense is that???
You weren't expecting anything RipoffMaster does to make sense, were you?
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Ticket Master wouldn't let me buy the two tickets I selected because it would have stranded a single ticket, so I ended up only being able to buy one. What sense is that???
You weren't expecting anything RipoffMaster does to make sense, were you?
I hate this "feature" but it makes some sense as those stranded single seats aren't as likely to sell, but as someone who goes to concerts solo a lot, I would love to have more opportunities to buy tickets.
Ticket Master wouldn't let me buy the two tickets I selected because it would have stranded a single ticket, so I ended up only being able to buy one. What sense is that???
EDIT: I ended up also buying 2 tickets in 5th row in El Cajon at the pre-buyers price. Will decide at some point if i want to sell my single front row center ticket which I also bought at the steep platinum price.
$250 for front row? I was seeing 5th row at I believe $225 - and then the 6th row was $79.50 - so I jumped on those.
I'm assuming those are "official platinum" which means ticketmaster raised the prices due to demand.
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Ticket Master wouldn't let me buy the two tickets I selected because it would have stranded a single ticket, so I ended up only being able to buy one. What sense is that???
EDIT: I ended up also buying 2 tickets in 5th row in El Cajon at the pre-buyers price. Will decide at some point if i want to sell my single front row center ticket which I also bought at the steep platinum price.
$250 for front row? I was seeing 5th row at I believe $225 - and then the 6th row was $79.50 - so I jumped on those.
The front ticket was at platinum price, $413 for the single ticket after fees. I would have bought two if Ticketmaster allowed it. I thought I might be able to do back-to-back purchase of single tickets next to each other, but to no surprise, the other ticket was sold once I completed the first purchase. The 5th row tickets were at the pre-buyers sale of $79.50. The 5th row at $225 were platinum, so the pre-buyers tickets were scattered among the available slots.
I did previously have 2 front row tickets for the Civic Theater at the normal face value, but someone must have grabbed those at 10:01am. I hope they enjoy them.
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hrmm no Charlotte date yet, wonder if that will even be rescheduled...
Yeah... Ticketbastard still says "Date TBA" but methinks the Raleigh NC date will be replacing it. I see no way they get from Redstank NJ to Charlotte NC during the day on 3-10 to play the Charlotte show.
Redstank in an Impractical Jokers reference by the way...
Yeah, I imagine Raleigh is replacing Charlotte.
Which works out well for me lol
Worked out for you :lol. I don't know if I'll make to the Raleigh show, it's a Friday so maybe.
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Ticket Master wouldn't let me buy the two tickets I selected because it would have stranded a single ticket, so I ended up only being able to buy one. What sense is that???
EDIT: I ended up also buying 2 tickets in 5th row in El Cajon at the pre-buyers price. Will decide at some point if i want to sell my single front row center ticket which I also bought at the steep platinum price.
$250 for front row? I was seeing 5th row at I believe $225 - and then the 6th row was $79.50 - so I jumped on those.
I'm assuming those are "official platinum" which means ticketmaster raised the prices due to demand.
Probably - but for a $145 difference in price, and only one row further back, it was a no brainer.
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Ticket Master wouldn't let me buy the two tickets I selected because it would have stranded a single ticket, so I ended up only being able to buy one. What sense is that???
EDIT: I ended up also buying 2 tickets in 5th row in El Cajon at the pre-buyers price. Will decide at some point if i want to sell my single front row center ticket which I also bought at the steep platinum price.
$250 for front row? I was seeing 5th row at I believe $225 - and then the 6th row was $79.50 - so I jumped on those.
The front ticket was at platinum price, $413 for the single ticket after fees. I would have bought two if Ticketmaster allowed it. I thought I might be able to do back-to-back purchase of single tickets next to each other, but to no surprise, the other ticket was sold once I completed the first purchase. The 5th row tickets were at the pre-buyers sale of $79.50. The 5th row at $225 were platinum, so the pre-buyers tickets were scattered among the available slots.
I did previously have 2 front row tickets for the Civic Theater at the normal face value, but someone must have grabbed those at 10:01am. I hope they enjoy them.
OK, I see how it works now. Glad your 5th row seats were only $79.50. I'm happy with 6th row center at $79. I had I believe 7th row on Myungs side for the Civic Center show - so this worked out in the end. Did you see them at The Magnolia when they played here on the DOT tour? I think you'll be happy with 5th row if you decide to sell your first row ticket.
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hrmm no Charlotte date yet, wonder if that will even be rescheduled...
Yeah... Ticketbastard still says "Date TBA" but methinks the Raleigh NC date will be replacing it. I see no way they get from Redstank NJ to Charlotte NC during the day on 3-10 to play the Charlotte show.
Redstank in an Impractical Jokers reference by the way...
Yeah, I imagine Raleigh is replacing Charlotte.
Which works out well for me lol
Worked out for you :lol. I don't know if I'll make to the Raleigh show, it's a Friday so maybe.
Let me know if you wind up coming!
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Ticket Master wouldn't let me buy the two tickets I selected because it would have stranded a single ticket, so I ended up only being able to buy one. What sense is that???
EDIT: I ended up also buying 2 tickets in 5th row in El Cajon at the pre-buyers price. Will decide at some point if i want to sell my single front row center ticket which I also bought at the steep platinum price.
$250 for front row? I was seeing 5th row at I believe $225 - and then the 6th row was $79.50 - so I jumped on those.
I'm assuming those are "official platinum" which means ticketmaster raised the prices due to demand.
Probably - but for a $145 difference in price, and only one row further back, it was a no brainer.
yeah totally, I refuse to buy an official platinum ticket. Also, and it's kind of unlikely for front row tickets, but often if you wait until day of show, the prices reset to from official platinum to normal face value. Granted, not usually the case for front row tickets but for the rest of the seats that get jacked up and end up being over valued.
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hrmm no Charlotte date yet, wonder if that will even be rescheduled...
Yeah... Ticketbastard still says "Date TBA" but methinks the Raleigh NC date will be replacing it. I see no way they get from Redstank NJ to Charlotte NC during the day on 3-10 to play the Charlotte show.
Redstank in an Impractical Jokers reference by the way...
Yeah, I imagine Raleigh is replacing Charlotte.
Which works out well for me lol
Worked out for you :lol. I don't know if I'll make to the Raleigh show, it's a Friday so maybe.
Let me know if you wind up coming!
:lol Well... it works out for Hef. Seems like I remember you having to drive back to Raleigh (or thereabouts) after the last Charlotte show in 2019... or was that Asheville in 2019?
The Raleigh show is my birthday weekend (3-10) so I should be able to make that show work... just have to stay overnight on the 11th. We (anyone attending the show from DTF) should go to The Pit before the show for dinner and drinks.
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Well now that BBQ is mentioned I'm even more inclined to go lol
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Yeah... it's top notch! Even with Ed Mitchell out doing his own thing somewhere else (food truck I think?), damn good pork.
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Seems like I remember you having to drive back to Raleigh (or thereabouts) after the last Charlotte show in 2019... or was that Asheville in 2019?
It was Charlotte.
The Raleigh show is my birthday weekend (3-10) so I should be able to make that show work... just have to stay overnight on the 11th. We (anyone attending the show from DTF) should go to The Pit before the show for dinner and drinks.
Hell yes!
Well now that BBQ is mentioned I'm even more inclined to go lol
YYEEEESSSS
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Looks like they'll be a San Diego area show now after all. Friday Feb 4th in El Cajon (10-15 miles east of SD). Tickets go on sale tomorrow for previous buyers, but I haven't received any notification from Ticketmaster with a previous buyers password. What password have you guys been using for the previous buyers sale?
Hi there, I have not received a notification either. Ditto for a couple buddies. I had front row center to the original SD show so super bummed the venue got changed. The only email i received was the TM cancellation/refund last month. So TM/LN lists a "previous buyers presale" for 10am PST this morning. . . so which previous buyers have received an email? Looks like TM botched this one (surprise, surprise) as i got jack... checked spam folder too. Have any San Diego attendees received an email with passcode for today?
Quick update. I got the email from Emporiumpresents at 10:03, so 3 minutes after the pre-sale had started - ridiculous! Passcode is CIVIC
LOL I got the email at 10:02 (presale started at 10:00) with the password. Ended up with 6th row center.
Yup I got the password at 10:03, go figure! Coincidentally, I also ended up with 6th row center - but still TBD if i can make San Diego. I'm so pissed because i had front row center for the original date... I logged on at 7am sharp and grabbed a front row center platinum for about $160 - then the platinum prices shot up to $225 or so 5 minutes later, so a buddy got second row for a higher price than i did for front row... damn Ticket Bastard algorithms screwing the fans!! I wanted to get a front row this morning but I'm not paying $350 (yes, platinum shot up to $350) on a matter of principle. I already dropped $300 or so for front row in Oakland. First world problems, I guess.
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Looks like they'll be a San Diego area show now after all. Friday Feb 4th in El Cajon (10-15 miles east of SD). Tickets go on sale tomorrow for previous buyers, but I haven't received any notification from Ticketmaster with a previous buyers password. What password have you guys been using for the previous buyers sale?
Hi there, I have not received a notification either. Ditto for a couple buddies. I had front row center to the original SD show so super bummed the venue got changed. The only email i received was the TM cancellation/refund last month. So TM/LN lists a "previous buyers presale" for 10am PST this morning. . . so which previous buyers have received an email? Looks like TM botched this one (surprise, surprise) as i got jack... checked spam folder too. Have any San Diego attendees received an email with passcode for today?
Quick update. I got the email from Emporiumpresents at 10:03, so 3 minutes after the pre-sale had started - ridiculous! Passcode is CIVIC
LOL I got the email at 10:02 (presale started at 10:00) with the password. Ended up with 6th row center.
Yup I got the password at 10:03, go figure! Coincidentally, I also ended up with 6th row center - but still TBD if i can make San Diego. I'm so pissed because i had front row center for the original date... I logged on at 7am sharp and grabbed a front row center platinum for about $160 - then the platinum prices shot up to $225 or so 5 minutes later, so a buddy got second row for a higher price than i did for front row... damn Ticket Bastard algorithms screwing the fans!! I wanted to get a front row this morning but I'm not paying $350 (yes, platinum shot up to $350) on a matter of principle. I already dropped $300 or so for front row in Oakland. First world problems, I guess.
Well if you already have front row for Oakland I think you'll be happy with 6th row here. Hopefully you can make it, you'll probably be sitting right next to my friends and I.
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Nashville rescheduled for March 13th at the Opry House. Last concert I saw there was Don Henley in 1982. I really feel old now.
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So how many new songs do you guys think they will play on this tour? Or do we already have a separate thread for that discussion?
Since they’ve done away with the “evening with“ format, I’m imagining that we only get four songs or maybe five at the most.
I think The Alien and the title track are gimmies. Beyond that…if I were a betting man…I’d put my money on Invisible Monster and Sleeping Giant. MAYBE Answering the Call if they decide to do a fifth. But with only 90-100 minutes, and being relatively certain they play the title track, that doesn’t leave a lot of room for much else.
I am happy that they are a band that really does not have “that one song you absolutely have to play” because it really keeps you guessing what the rest will be.
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Five songs seems likely, with Awaken The Master and Transcending Time being the ones left out. I’m hoping they pull out some Mangini stuff they haven’t done from D/T and DT12 and stuff from ADToE they’ve ignored since the tour.
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Sadly I feel Sleeping Giant will be left out. I hope I'm wrong
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I think they will almost certainly play awaken the master given the novelty of the 8 string.
Otherwise I'm hoping they play as much of this album as possible. Realistically I would guess they open with Alien, play either ATC or TT and then finish with Master and Epic
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Five songs seems likely, with Awaken The Master and Transcending Time being the ones left out. I’m hoping they pull out some Mangini stuff they haven’t done from D/T and DT12 and stuff from ADToE they’ve ignored since the tour.
Nah - I'd bet that Awaken the Master will at least be an alternating track if not played at every show. After all, it will be an opportunity for JP to show off his brand new 8-string! The Alien and title track are other givens, and I'd wager that Invisible Monster and Sleeping Giant will swap between shows like they did with Paralyzed and Fall Into the Light on the last tour. Hopefully they'll alternate at least few other older tracks too, especially since they're not doing an Evening With tour.
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Naturally, I received the email with the pre-buyers code at 1:53pm, 4 hours after tickets go on pre-sale. Thanks for BTP2112 for the earlier tip.
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Yeah, with a shorter show this time, it would be nice to see a less static set list this time around, instead of one or two token spots to rotate, but I am not going to hold my breath waiting for that. :lol
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Five songs seems likely, with Awaken The Master and Transcending Time being the ones left out. I’m hoping they pull out some Mangini stuff they haven’t done from D/T and DT12 and stuff from ADToE they’ve ignored since the tour.
Nah - I'd bet that Awaken the Master will at least be an alternating track if not played at every show. After all, it will be an opportunity for JP to show off his brand new 8-string! The Alien and title track are other givens, and I'd wager that Invisible Monster and Sleeping Giant will swap between shows like they did with Paralyzed and Fall Into the Light on the last tour. Hopefully they'll alternate at least few other older tracks too, especially since they're not doing an Evening With tour.
You could be right. Though I always hate when bands rotate new songs, as inevitably my city gets the song I want to hear least out of the two options. Ideally, they'd keep the new song choices static from city to city, and rotate any older songs (though nothing that hasn't been played before like Surrender to Reason or Out of Reach if they decide to debut those).
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Five songs seems likely, with Awaken The Master and Transcending Time being the ones left out.
I would be shocked if they left out Awaken The Master, since they released it as a single.
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If they do a rotating setlist (at least 2 songs rotating) then I'll go to 2 shows.
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Five songs seems likely, with Awaken The Master and Transcending Time being the ones left out.
I would be shocked if they left out Awaken The Master, since they released it as a single.
The Alien and Invisible Monster were the only two singles. Awaken The Master features the 8 string guitar, so It seems likely that they will play it live, plus it's such a great song.
This album needs to be played in its entirety! :metal
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Five songs seems likely, with Awaken The Master and Transcending Time being the ones left out.
I would be shocked if they left out Awaken The Master, since they released it as a single.
The Alien and Invisible Monster were the only two singles. Awaken The Master features the 8 string guitar, so It seems likely that they will play it live, plus it's such a great song.
This album needs to be played in its entirety! :metal
Not sure how you define "single" these days, but they definitely released a full-length animated video of the song. That's the only way I can tell anymore.
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They did rotate the singles, Paralyzed and Fall Into the Light, last time so it's not a crazy idea to think they'd rotate the singles again.
Personally I want to see ATC and the title track the most live. I'm not entire sure I care too much though as long as the album gets good representation live which I see no reason to believe it won't even with a shorter set list.
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Five songs seems likely, with Awaken The Master and Transcending Time being the ones left out.
I would be shocked if they left out Awaken The Master, since they released it as a single.
The Alien and Invisible Monster were the only two singles. Awaken The Master features the 8 string guitar, so It seems likely that they will play it live, plus it's such a great song.
This album needs to be played in its entirety! :metal
Not sure how you define "single" these days, but they definitely released a full-length animated video of the song. That's the only way I can tell anymore.
They did videos for all the songs. They are directly from the DVD that comes with the deluxe set.
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Five songs seems likely, with Awaken The Master and Transcending Time being the ones left out.
I would be shocked if they left out Awaken The Master, since they released it as a single.
The Alien and Invisible Monster were the only two singles. Awaken The Master features the 8 string guitar, so It seems likely that they will play it live, plus it's such a great song.
This album needs to be played in its entirety! :metal
Not sure how you define "single" these days, but they definitely released a full-length animated video of the song. That's the only way I can tell anymore.
They did videos for all the songs. They are directly from the DVD that comes with the deluxe set.
Well fuck.
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MM has been teaching classes for The Alien, Invisible Monster, Awaken The Master and the title track, so I'd say those 4 are definitely going to be played from the get go. At first I thought Sleeping Giant would be played too, but I'm not too sure about it now.
Also, in the live Q&A the band did for the album release, James said he'd like them to play Transcending Time "at some point" too, which makes it sound like it's not in the setlist for this tour (so far). I'm not expecting them to play ATC at first either.
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MM has been teaching classes for The Alien, Invisible Monster, Awaken The Master and the title track, so I'd say those 4 are definitely going to be played from the get go. At first I thought Sleeping Giant would be played too, but I'm not too sure about it now.
Also, in the live Q&A the band did for the album release, James said he'd like them to play Transcending Time "at some point" too, which makes it sound like it's not in the setlist for this tour (so far). I'm not expecting them to play ATC at first either.
Ahh, that kind of seems like the answer then.
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MM has been teaching classes for The Alien, Invisible Monster, Awaken The Master and the title track, so I'd say those 4 are definitely going to be played from the get go. At first I thought Sleeping Giant would be played too, but I'm not too sure about it now.
Also, in the live Q&A the band did for the album release, James said he'd like them to play Transcending Time "at some point" too, which makes it sound like it's not in the setlist for this tour (so far). I'm not expecting them to play ATC at first either.
I think you nailed it. Especially with the shorter set time - I think this is about what we can expect. It would be great if they could also maybe rotate Sleeping Giant and ATC between shows, like they did with Paralyzed and FITL
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I would really hope to see Answer The Call just because it'll be an amazing energetic song.
I am expecting The Alien, Invisible Monster, and A View...
Being as Mesa is still the first show of the tour. It's going to be extremely fun going in blind, and also being able to claim first for hearing the songs played live.... ;D
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It would make sense for them to play ATM. It would be a smart business move to showcase the new 8 string. When JP rocks that thing live, I'm sure many guitar players are gonna be all fired up about the new 8 string Majesty which will lead to EBMM building a bunch more.
I read an article recently that the EBMM Majesty is the second highest selling signature guitar in the world just behind the Gibson Les Paul.
Back to the point, I really hope they play ATM. It's just a really awesome song.
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To be honest, I'd be thrilled if they toured the full album like they did The Astonishing. Sure, I get it, its not a concept album (simmer down ;)), but the delay in the tour dates has given me a chance to really love this album, and I'd welcome it being played in its entirety (even if in rotating A and B sets) with 2 or 3 other songs sprinkled in. Let's go full frontal view from the top.
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To be honest, I'd be thrilled if they toured the full album like they did The Astonishing. Sure, I get it, its not a concept album (simmer down ;)), but the delay in the tour dates has given me a chance to really love this album, and I'd welcome it being played in its entirety (even if in rotating A and B sets) with 2 or 3 other songs sprinkled in. Let's go full frontal view from the top.
I don't even rank the album too high in the DT catalog (I do like it, not a knock, just I like their other albums more) and I would be totally cool seeing the entire album live. Then do like one deep cut like Surrender to Reason and finish off with a couple "classics" and that's a solid set to me.
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I wonder if they had the Fall tour shirts printed up with the dates before they ended up postponing the tour.
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Will the Charlotte tickets be honored in Raleigh? Different venue obviously, so how does that work? Pardon my ignorance.
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Will the Charlotte tickets be honored in Raleigh? Different venue obviously, so how does that work? Pardon my ignorance.
I would imagine you need to get your tickets for Charlotte refunded, then purchase Raleigh tickets.
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I wonder if they had the Fall tour shirts printed up with the dates before they ended up postponing the tour.
I guess it depends how soon they order all tour merch, and how early they know they would cancel. It's possible the order was already in, but they had not receive the merch, :huh:
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Will the Charlotte tickets be honored in Raleigh? Different venue obviously, so how does that work? Pardon my ignorance.
I would imagine you need to get your tickets for Charlotte refunded, then purchase Raleigh tickets.
That's my thought as well. My apologies if I missed it but does anyone have the pre-sale code for Raleigh?
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I don't have it yet.
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I had to get refunds for my DT show in Boston. Conflict with another show that was an anniversary present from my brother and sister in law. I would rather go to DT.
This will be only the 2nd DT tour, starting from I&W that I have missed. The other was the TOT tour.
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I had to get refunds for my DT show in Boston. Conflict with another show that was an anniversary present from my brother and sister in law. I would rather go to DT.
This will be only the 2nd DT tour, starting from I&W that I have missed. The other was the TOT tour.
Come to Raleigh.
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I had to get refunds for my DT show in Boston. Conflict with another show that was an anniversary present from my brother and sister in law. I would rather go to DT.
This will be only the 2nd DT tour, starting from I&W that I have missed. The other was the TOT tour.
There ARE other towns :mehlin
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I had to get refunds for my DT show in Boston. Conflict with another show that was an anniversary present from my brother and sister in law. I would rather go to DT.
This will be only the 2nd DT tour, starting from I&W that I have missed. The other was the TOT tour.
There ARE other towns :mehlin
Yes, but it is not always that easy for adults with jobs and other responsibilities to just drop everything and travel for a concert. ;) Trust me, I have missed a few great tours/concerts over the years simply because it didn't come to my town (and traveling to another city just wasn't feasible at the time).
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I had to get refunds for my DT show in Boston. Conflict with another show that was an anniversary present from my brother and sister in law. I would rather go to DT.
This will be only the 2nd DT tour, starting from I&W that I have missed. The other was the TOT tour.
There ARE other towns :mehlin
Yes, but it is not always that easy for adults with jobs and other responsibilities to just drop everything and travel for a concert. ;) Trust me, I have missed a few great tours/concerts over the years simply because it didn't come to my town (and traveling to another city just wasn't feasible at the time).
Exactly.
If I was single and had no kids, it's be easy to go to a ton of different cities to see shows.
And @DTwwbwMP, the Shmeglands have proven they will travel for a show.
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Yes that too. But i'm pretty sure he's said that the recording kit is also the touring kit so we shall see.
I think it would look a lot better playing a small(er) kit for a change.
I always thought it was silly when he said he needed everything on the Dramatic Turn kit to play " The DT catalogue "
When Portnoy played the "DT Catalogue" just fine and his (normal, right side kit) was nowhere near that big.
( 8 toms, 4 bass drums 4 electro pads etc )
Didn’t know Mangini had another gig. I just can’t stop watching this!!!!
https://youtu.be/ItZyaOlrb7E
Got reminded of this post because I saw this episode of The Office yesterday, and that drummer was in it.
https://youtu.be/hWW6HHfdObg?t=184
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I hate ticketmaster, I tried to buy tickets for the DT show in Raleigh today, found a great seat when to check out said it failed. Go back now I have to buy 2 tickets because everything is "preferred tickets".
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Anyone know a pre-sale code for Raleigh?
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No, I tried a few that I've seen before but non worked
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No, I tried a few that I've seen before but non worked
Try DUKE
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you are awesome! Got row D seats
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you are awesome! Got row D seats
Well... I'm getting the "unable to process your request on this device, please try again later" message. I'll give it a shot when the public sale starts.
Hurts my heart to type DUKE for any reason anyway...
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you are awesome! Got row D seats
Well... I'm getting the "unable to process your request on this device, please try again later" message. I'll give it a shot when the public sale starts.
Hurts my heart to type DUKE for any reason anyway...
Usually switching from a computer to a phone (or the other way around) fixes the issue.
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you are awesome! Got row D seats
Well... I'm getting the "unable to process your request on this device, please try again later" message. I'll give it a shot when the public sale starts.
Hurts my heart to type DUKE for any reason anyway...
Usually switching from a computer to a phone (or the other way around) fixes the issue.
Thanks Victor! Same message on my phone and Ipad both... I'm going to try it off the VPN now.
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Finally got it... off VPN on my wife's phone. Mid section on JP's side Row G seats 1 & 2. I feel like they're very good seats. Almost exactly the same spot as I would have had in Charlotte at Ovens.
I remember the venue from I&W and Beyond... very nice spot! As we get closer to the dates, we'll confirm BBQ and drinks and The Pit for those attending the show.
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you are awesome! Got row D seats
Well... I'm getting the "unable to process your request on this device, please try again later" message. I'll give it a shot when the public sale starts.
Hurts my heart to type DUKE for any reason anyway...
It's a sign, brother. A good sign. :)
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Finally got it... off VPN on my wife's phone. Mid section on JP's side Row G seats 1 & 2. I feel like they're very good seats. Almost exactly the same spot as I would have had in Charlotte at Ovens.
I remember the venue from I&W and Beyond... very nice spot! As we get closer to the dates, we'll confirm BBQ and drinks and The Pit for those attending the show.
Got seats in section C for myself, both kids, and the new tagalong, my eldest daughter's fiance. We'll get him initiated RIGHT.
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Finally got it... off VPN on my wife's phone. Mid section on JP's side Row G seats 1 & 2. I feel like they're very good seats. Almost exactly the same spot as I would have had in Charlotte at Ovens.
I remember the venue from I&W and Beyond... very nice spot! As we get closer to the dates, we'll confirm BBQ and drinks and The Pit for those attending the show.
Got seats in section C for myself, both kids, and the new tagalong, my eldest daughter's fiance. We'll get him initiated RIGHT.
That's a hell of an initiation. I remember my first DT concert (2004 @ 9:30 Club in DC) as if it was yesterday... blew me away for certain! In-person with DT is another level.
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Finally got it... off VPN on my wife's phone. Mid section on JP's side Row G seats 1 & 2. I feel like they're very good seats. Almost exactly the same spot as I would have had in Charlotte at Ovens.
I remember the venue from I&W and Beyond... very nice spot! As we get closer to the dates, we'll confirm BBQ and drinks and The Pit for those attending the show.
Got seats in section C for myself, both kids, and the new tagalong, my eldest daughter's fiance. We'll get him initiated RIGHT.
That's a hell of an initiation. I remember my first DT concert (2004 @ 9:30 Club in DC) as if it was yesterday... blew me away for certain! In-person with DT is another level.
I am taking my bestie girlfriend to her first DT concert in Houston. 5th row just JP side of center. I am so excited that not only do I have another girl to go with me, but my best friend (who isn't into metal) got hooked on DT last year. I can't wait!
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That's awesome geemo, I hope you all have a great time! :coolio :coolio
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So tonight was the Boston show. Sooo glad I'm not driving into the city tonight on the busiest travel day of the year.
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Just scored tix for the Feb 8th show in Seattle, hopefully it doesn't get thwarted by cornholio again.
They moved from tha Paramount Theater to a large arena in Kent. If find this a really odd choice, as DT doesn't get any love from the local radio stations. I don't see them selling 7000+ seats even though they are more than worthy of that..
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Damn, I don't know what is worse as a Snohomish County resident: Going to downtown Seattle on a weeknight, or going to Kent on a weeknight.
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Having a great time with my daughter and her bf here in Brooklyn..we all know the drama with the Kings Theater show now at Beacon.. daughter got her money back from TM and just got seats at Beacon ... Orchestra row H on left side so not bad all things considered..now the wait to see if it gets messed up again.. please make this one happen Rock Gods
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Damn, I don't know what is worse as a Snohomish County resident: Going to downtown Seattle on a weeknight, or going to Kent on a weeknight.
Trust me. Kent ain’t a picnic, but it’s worlds better than Seattle right now. Kent down by the station and ShoWare is one of the nicer parts of Kent right now. We have often gone to the theater that’s about a block from there.
Still on the fence about going. I haven’t been to any event since Iron Maiden in Tacoma in 2019. I just got my booster shot, but I’m still a bit wary.
I’ll probably go if I can find good seats, but the floor stuff was all gone when I checked the other day. I might check StubHub.
I guess I’ve been feeling really wishy washy about this one. My con list is almost as long as my pro list. I’m in between jobs, the outlook is uncertain, trying to be more conservative in my spending lately (and I have seen them 12 times)
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...one of the nicer parts of Kent...
Did you type that with a straight face?
I kid, I kid. But seriously...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JOQbwVJjxY
I was at the ShoWare a while back for some kiddo event and remember being impressed. I'd happily go there, or anywhere for that matter, if it meant avoiding downtown Seattle. But 2+ hours down I5 after work is a tough sell.
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...one of the nicer parts of Kent...
Did you type that with a straight face?
It’s an accurate statement. It’s just a very low bar… :rollin
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BTW thanks for that link!
THE ORIGINAL CAVEMAN KITCHEN!!! I couldn’t believe it! That burned down so many years ago!! Caveman is still there though…and wonderful!
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I was hoping you would appreciate that. I cannot imagine a world without YouTube. The fact that I found that video in about 8 seconds makes me glad to be alive in 2021.
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:lol can't wait to go to Kent now!
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:lol can't wait to go to Kent now!
You and me both! :rollin
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:lol can't wait to go to Kent now!
You and me both! :rollin
If you go, I’ll go. ;D
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Ok, now this is getting tempting!
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Ok, now this is getting tempting!
JUST GO, it's DREAM THEATER! Don't get bent about Kent.. 😁
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Cincy show would've been tonight. Rip.
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Tonight would have been the St Louis show. On a Saturday night. Would have been glorious. :( :(
Sadly, with the rescheduled date being in the middle of the week and the uncertainty of COVID, we requested a refund of our tickets. If things are looking better with COVID by then and the set list looks beastly, we might rebuy at the last minute and still go, but for now we are taking a pass.
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Will we see Dream Theater in America 2022...simple question
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They should've toured when they had the chance.
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They should've toured when they had the chance.
I know. Covid is not going anywhere and we need to proceed in this new “normal”, sadly.
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They should've toured when they had the chance.
I know. Covid is not going anywhere and we need to proceed in this new “normal”, sadly.
I just think that they could've gotten the fall shows in, whereas I wouldn't be shocked if the winter dates end up in jeopardy.
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I read an article as well that major acts are seeing a lot of empty seats at concerts, to the tune of around 20% of tickets sold not being used.
Looking at the DT show here in STL, there are still a crap ton of tickets available, and prices are much lower than they were a few months ago.
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Went thru all the crap getting new seats for the Beacon show after the Kings Theater ticket master fiasco and guess where they are right before that show... Canada...
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Canada probably won't let 'em in. ;D
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I think touring next year will be postponed too.
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Touring is a struggle under normal circumstances. I know a few bands (notable bands) that are considering calling it quits if this continues.
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Touring is a struggle under normal circumstances. I know a few bands (notable bands) that are considering calling it quits if this continues.
Not to derail the thread but what bands are those?
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Just get f'n vaxed, boosted and move on with our lives! It's the flu, people! :censored
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Just get f'n vaxed, boosted and move on with our lives! It's the flu, people! :censored
This times a million. >:( :censored
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For what is worth, JP got the booster shot.
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For transparency... I'm 62 in January. I was vaxed, got boosted and STILL got covid last week. Two days not feeling great, but I've been much worse before. After a week of quarantine I got tested again and NEGATIVE! Nothing to see here. Moving on! :chill
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For transparency... I'm 62 in January. I was vaxed, got boosted and STILL got covid last week. Two days not feeling great, but I've been much worse before. After a week of quarantine I got tested again and NEGATIVE! Nothing to see here. Moving on! :chill
Sending feel good vibes your way! Get well soon!!!!! :heart :)
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Touring is a struggle under normal circumstances. I know a few bands (notable bands) that are considering calling it quits if this continues.
Not to derail the thread but what bands are those?
Unfortunately I cannot say, Im so sorry, but I was making a point that this affecting bands with status.
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For what is worth, JP got the booster shot.
Says who?
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For what is worth, JP got the booster shot.
Says who?
https://youtu.be/PpwuWXL4GBw
Is not letting me time stamp it, but at 55:15 he mentions it. Glasser might appreciate this interview since he tells the story about, well Glasser :lol
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For what is worth, JP got the booster shot.
Says who?
https://youtu.be/PpwuWXL4GBw
Is not letting me time stamp it, but at 55:15 he mentions it. Glasser might appreciate this interview since he tells the story about, well Glasser :lol
Funny thing is I used the name Glasser from pure memory from a conversation with Portnoy telling me names they were thinking of to replace Majesty so I remember Glasser and Grey Matter. Great memories!
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Nick masons saucerful of secrets just postponed their North American leg of the 2022 tour.
It doesn’t seem quite as bad as the spring two years ago, but a lot of bands are starting to pull the plug. I’m still wondering if Dream Theater is going to move forward or not. I keep thinking that there’s a 50-50 chance will get an announcement any day that the whole thing has been pushed back to the end of the year.
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Nick masons saucerful of secrets just postponed their North American leg of the 2022 tour.
It doesn’t seem quite as bad as the spring two years ago, but a lot of bands are starting to pull the plug. I’m still wondering if Dream Theater is going to move forward or not. I keep thinking that there’s a 50-50 chance will get an announcement any day that the whole thing has been pushed back to the end of the year.
I have been reading that omicron in Africa where it started is dropping just as rapidly as it went up. That could be good. Right before Christmas I got the latest newsletter from JP. Reiterating the tour. :corn
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Nick masons saucerful of secrets just postponed their North American leg of the 2022 tour.
It doesn’t seem quite as bad as the spring two years ago, but a lot of bands are starting to pull the plug. I’m still wondering if Dream Theater is going to move forward or not. I keep thinking that there’s a 50-50 chance will get an announcement any day that the whole thing has been pushed back to the end of the year.
I've been thinking about this as well. I also keep thinking they should have toured in October when the infection rates were lower. You had to figure it'd be worse in Feb. Not sure what they were thinking. Hopefully they'll just suck it up and move forward, as there will always be another variant and it's just part of the "new normal" we have to get used to living with.
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The last time the votes were 2 against 3..I wonder what will happen if we see the same scenario being played again..the band hasn't seen the road from like March 2020, that's almost two years.
JP has some difficult decisions to make, on one side there are tools that weren't available last year..there are vaccines and a pill with a potential to be an effective treatment but on the other hand this virus is very unpredictable and it is my opinion that it will give more mutations, given what we have seen so far. If we are lucky enough and the data are confirmed that it is becoming less severe then they should get on the road.
Either way the lesson that JP has to learn is that you can't please everyone and besides him there are people that have families and depend on the band to make a living..it's not easy but being a leader he has to take a responsibility and move forward.
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The last time the votes were 2 against 3..I wonder what will happen if we see the same scenario being played again..the band hasn't seen the road from like March 2020, that's almost two years.
JP has some difficult decisions to make, on one side there are tools that weren't available last year..there are vaccines and a pill with a potential to be an effective treatment but on the other hand this virus is very unpredictable and it is my opinion that it will give more mutations, given what we have seen so far. If we are lucky enough and the data are confirmed that it is becoming less severe then they should get on the road.
Either way the lesson that JP has to learn is that you can't please everyone and besides him there are people that have families and depend on the band to make a living..it's not easy but being a leader he has to take a responsibility and move forward.
You could say he's facing his "Path that Divides" scenario. :corn
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I don't think the US tour will get canceled/postponed a second time. The tour leg in Europe might be a different story, though...
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The real question on this is the tour financially logical. Speaking with other known bands I have been told that its expensive enough to pay everyone involved (road crew, sound and light crew, merch ppl etc...) As well as the travel expenses themself along with the risk of being too ill to perform. With a lot of people still apprehensive to go to shows (and I personally know a lot) does it make sense to tour? Believe you me, I am sick to my stomach to even have this conversation.
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Perhaps they could book smaller venues and downsize the production, at least during the pandemic anyway. That would cut a lot of expenses and could still be a successful tour.
The Neal Morse band is a good example of this.
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What is the probability that it will be a tour start?
Have any tickets been sold?
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What is the probability that it will be a tour start?
I can only go by the NY, NJ & PA shows, but I just don't see how these shows can go forward with the lack of tickets sold ??? All 3 places are much less than half sold :facepalm: And add people's concerns over this pandemic and seeing so many bands postponing shows/tours, I would be shocked to see this tour go ahead as planned.
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Yeah, we'll see. Ticketmaster sent me an email last week that we'll have to show out Vax Card to get in for the Boston show.
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I think they are doing the tour. A cameo just a few days ago with James, mentions hoping to see them this tour.
And I received a newsletter from JP about a week ago also reiterating the tour.
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I'm thinking if they are going to postpone the tour, we should hear about it soon. I doubt they'll postpone it last minute.
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The promoters must be having a sh*t storm over the lack of tickets sold.
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The Mesa show seems to be fine.
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The Mesa show seems to be fine.
That's awesome! Maybe just an "east coast" thing then.
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I'm thinking if they are going to postpone the tour, we should hear about it soon. I doubt they'll postpone it last minute.
To the contrary, if they do, I think it will be last minute. It's too early to postpone now, but I think by the end of January we will have an idea.
Just today I saw a band (Glassjaw) only postpone the first half of their tour to start the year.
I only have one concert on my schedule this month (at the end) and that band has been posting about the tour even today so we will see.
But if you ask me, I think the band most certainly could have completed their original dates and not have the tour be up in the air again. However, it's entirely possible this covid wave is on the downfall when this starts and it can happen so it might work out perfectly. We will see.
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The exact seats a friend and I refunded last month for the STL show (10th row and pretty close to dead center) are back up for sale and still available and for like 30 dollars cheaper. Dang.
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I just started a job for a local city on Monday and we are already being told to stay out of the office and everything‘s in lockdown. All my new job training is pretty much going to be happening at home on my own computer.
I’m training to become an electrical inspector and they’re already talking about canceling all non-necessary inspections.
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The exact seats a friend and I refunded last month for the STL show (10th row and pretty close to dead center) are back up for sale and still available and for like 30 dollars cheaper. Dang.
Dang. So, are you not going? I'm tempted to get a refund for our and then re-buy for cheaper but I like where we are. First row balcony....works out well for all five of us and guarantees no giant sits in front of the kiddos.
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I just started a job for a local city on Monday and we are already being told to stay out of the office and everything‘s in lockdown. All my new job training is pretty much going to be happening at home on my own computer.
I’m training to become an electrical inspector and they’re already talking about canceling all non-necessary inspections.
Congrats on the new gig but damn man, lockdown again. Next thing is cancelling holidays to avoid gatherings. Non-necessary inspections? What is a non-necessary appointment????
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It's sad to see so many difficulties for people getting shows in their hometowns/nearby while us might not get another DT show ever again :'(
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It's sad to see so many difficulties for people getting shows in their hometowns/nearby while us might not get another DT show ever again :'(
I'm pretty sure they will find their way back under Peruvian Skies. :)
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I'm thinking if they are going to postpone the tour, we should hear about it soon. I doubt they'll postpone it last minute.
To the contrary, if they do, I think it will be last minute. It's too early to postpone now, but I think by the end of January we will have an idea.
Just today I saw a band (Glassjaw) only postpone the first half of their tour to start the year.
I only have one concert on my schedule this month (at the end) and that band has been posting about the tour even today so we will see.
But if you ask me, I think the band most certainly could have completed their original dates and not have the tour be up in the air again. However, it's entirely possible this covid wave is on the downfall when this starts and it can happen so it might work out perfectly. We will see.
You're probably right. I was thinking more along the terms that the longer they wait, the more $$ they'd lose on travel etc. But I agree with you, they should have toured in October when they had the chance. The rates here in California (and pretty much everywhere else) were much lower then. Now they're enacting more restrictions and who knows whats next? The knuckleheads here in CA, will probably say that bands who have indoor shows need to wear masks while they're playing LOL
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I'm thinking if they are going to postpone the tour, we should hear about it soon. I doubt they'll postpone it last minute.
To the contrary, if they do, I think it will be last minute. It's too early to postpone now, but I think by the end of January we will have an idea.
Just today I saw a band (Glassjaw) only postpone the first half of their tour to start the year.
I only have one concert on my schedule this month (at the end) and that band has been posting about the tour even today so we will see.
But if you ask me, I think the band most certainly could have completed their original dates and not have the tour be up in the air again. However, it's entirely possible this covid wave is on the downfall when this starts and it can happen so it might work out perfectly. We will see.
You're probably right. I was thinking more along the terms that the longer they wait, the more $$ they'd lose on travel etc. But I agree with you, they should have toured in October when they had the chance. The rates here in California (and pretty much everywhere else) were much lower then. Now they're enacting more restrictions and who knows whats next? The knuckleheads here in CA, will probably say that bands who have indoor shows need to wear masks while they're playing LOL
I still think turnout may have been a concern for the band. I don't know about the rest of the venues, but less than 25% of the seats for the CT show had been sold.
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We saw a performance in DC at the Warner Theater in November, where DT is scheduled to play in March. Vax card required, masks on at all times. The same for a Broadway show in December. It wasn't a problem. Seeing the shows was better than sitting at home.
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We saw a performance in DC at the Warner Theater in November, where DT is scheduled to play in March. Vax card required, masks on at all times. The same for a Broadway show in December. It wasn't a problem. Seeing the shows was better than sitting at home.
Same thing when I went to NYC to see the Book of Mormon in late November of last year. I had no problem with it.
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They're playing a venue here that's twice as big as what they usually play here. And they usually can't even sell out the regular venue. Right now there's so many seats available. Like 3rd row for 65 bucks still. Idk why they picked this venue.
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I still think turnout may have been a concern for the band. I don't know about the rest of the venues, but less than 25% of the seats for the CT show had been sold.
I can't help but think that's a concern as well. But it may go hand in hand, why risk touring if people aren't going to show up?
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I still think turnout may have been a concern for the band. I don't know about the rest of the venues, but less than 25% of the seats for the CT show had been sold.
I can't help but think that's a concern as well. But it may go hand in hand, why risk touring if people aren't going to show up?
Yes, that has to be a big part of the equation. If they can't turn a profit, it doesn't make sense going out. I just checked Ticketmaster for the show I'm going to (San Diego). It looks like about half the seats are sold. They played this same venue in 2019 and it was a complete sell out.
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The exact seats a friend and I refunded last month for the STL show (10th row and pretty close to dead center) are back up for sale and still available and for like 30 dollars cheaper. Dang.
Dang. So, are you not going? I'm tempted to get a refund for our and then re-buy for cheaper but I like where we are. First row balcony....works out well for all five of us and guarantees no giant sits in front of the kiddos.
As of now, no, but we may change our minds depending on how things with COVID look and what the set list is. Truth be told, if the concert were on the weekend like the original date was, I'd probable be in for sure, but it being in the middle of the week is a bite.
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The exact seats a friend and I refunded last month for the STL show (10th row and pretty close to dead center) are back up for sale and still available and for like 30 dollars cheaper. Dang.
Dang. So, are you not going? I'm tempted to get a refund for our and then re-buy for cheaper but I like where we are. First row balcony....works out well for all five of us and guarantees no giant sits in front of the kiddos.
As of now, no, but we may change our minds depending on how things with COVID look and what the set list is.
Setlist? What are you hoping for?
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Why would you want to know the setlist beforehand? Isn't the element of surprise the point of the journey?
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Why would you want to know the setlist beforehand? Isn't the element of surprise the point of the journey?
I wouldn't say "its the point" but for me, it's hard to resist checking it out or being spoiled. If my show is closer to the start of the tour I'll usually hold off for the surprise element.
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There also people that will make a decision on seeing a show only if certain songs are being played.
I try to keep the set list a surprise, but I saw the DoT tour on the second leg only because I knew they were playing At Wits End.
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The exact seats a friend and I refunded last month for the STL show (10th row and pretty close to dead center) are back up for sale and still available and for like 30 dollars cheaper. Dang.
Dang. So, are you not going? I'm tempted to get a refund for our and then re-buy for cheaper but I like where we are. First row balcony....works out well for all five of us and guarantees no giant sits in front of the kiddos.
As of now, no, but we may change our minds depending on how things with COVID look and what the set list is. Truth be told, if the concert were on the weekend like the original date was, I'd probable be in for sure, but it being in the middle of the week is a bite.
Gotcha. :tup My kids are loving that it's in the middle of the week because they know there's a chance I'll let them bail on school the next day.
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So does anyone know what the COVID policy at Stifel in St. Louis is?
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https://www.stifeltheatre.com/plan-your-visit/safety
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The exact seats a friend and I refunded last month for the STL show (10th row and pretty close to dead center) are back up for sale and still available and for like 30 dollars cheaper. Dang.
Dang. So, are you not going? I'm tempted to get a refund for our and then re-buy for cheaper but I like where we are. First row balcony....works out well for all five of us and guarantees no giant sits in front of the kiddos.
As of now, no, but we may change our minds depending on how things with COVID look and what the set list is. Truth be told, if the concert were on the weekend like the original date was, I'd probable be in for sure, but it being in the middle of the week is a bite.
Gotcha. :tup My kids are loving that it's in the middle of the week because they know there's a chance I'll let them bail on school the next day.
Haha, your kids are smart. :tup :tup
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https://www.stifeltheatre.com/plan-your-visit/safety
Thank you - I looked for it but not very hard so that makes me a - :loser:
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Tour rehearsals have started :metal https://www.facebook.com/MikeMangini/videos/298662212224461/
Also from Jordan:
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Tour rehearsals have started :metal https://www.facebook.com/MikeMangini/videos/298662212224461/
Also from Jordan:
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That's a good sign that the tour will hopefully go off as planned..
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Love the Cadbury bar!
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Love the Cadbury bar!
Damn, man...eagle eye! I zoomed on that as far as my computer allowed and couldn't recognize it.
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Tour rehearsals have started :metal https://www.facebook.com/MikeMangini/videos/298662212224461/
Also from Jordan:
(https://scontent.flim13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/270137443_491840222298878_126574130564841103_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=0z_FHfrr54MAX_8HtA2&_nc_ht=scontent.flim13-1.fna&oh=00_AT8lU1swIwKpOPzcRuKLznz1ZR5zbk14kfB6_NlHGXQ2CQ&oe=61E393AF)
That's a good sign that the tour will hopefully go off as planned..
Yeah, and I don't think they could afford another cancellation/postponement. They all seem very excited about the tour too :metal
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I just saw on Facebook James was at the Toronto airport flying down to NY for tour rehearsals. Another good sign the tour will hopefully go off as planned this time.
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I just saw on Facebook James was at the Toronto airport flying down to NY for tour rehearsals. Another good sign the tour will hopefully go off as planned this time.
I'm getting excited! Just hope I dont get the bug before the show...I am going to 2 concerts this month before my Feb 6 DT - front row! - concert.
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I just saw on Facebook James was at the Toronto airport flying down to NY for tour rehearsals. Another good sign the tour will hopefully go off as planned this time.
Didn't Neal Morse just announce the postponement of their Canadian dates because of new travel restrictions there? I was thinking DT might have to do the same thing.
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I just saw on Facebook James was at the Toronto airport flying down to NY for tour rehearsals. Another good sign the tour will hopefully go off as planned this time.
Didn't Neal Morse just announce the postponement of their Canadian dates because of new travel restrictions there? I was thinking DT might have to do the same thing.
Maybe that's why JLB flew the coup before they could lock him down!
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I just saw on Facebook James was at the Toronto airport flying down to NY for tour rehearsals. Another good sign the tour will hopefully go off as planned this time.
Didn't Neal Morse just announce the postponement of their Canadian dates because of new travel restrictions there? I was thinking DT might have to do the same thing.
Maybe that's why JLB flew the coup before they could lock him down!
Good point - you could be on to something.
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Man, tour starts soon. My show is in like a month. So hyped.
A bit worried cause I'm in row 2 but right on the edge of the stage so myung will be to my right. Hoping he's not too far and that it doesn't feel disconnected.
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Man, tour starts soon. My show is in like a month. So hyped.
A bit worried cause I'm in row 2 but right on the edge of the stage so myung will be to my right. Hoping he's not too far and that it doesn't feel disconnected.
I'll ask them to switch spots on stage for that show. :)
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JM...not feel disconnected?? :lol
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I just mean I hope I'm not too far to the side and that the row 2 seats are actually worth it for being on the edge of the stage. Guarantee it'll be like every other concert where I stress over the seats and then they're great.
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I just mean I hope I'm not too far to the side and that the row 2 seats are actually worth it for being on the edge of the stage. Guarantee it'll be like every other concert where I stress over the seats and then they're great.
Enjoy the show!!!!! :) :metal
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Three weeks from tomorrow for me. Woot!
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Only my 2nd time seeing DT. So hyped. Hyped to see the setlist because I know I can't wait those few weeks between the start of the tour and my show, lol. So I bet I'll look at it.
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Only my 2nd time seeing DT. So hyped. Hyped to see the setlist because I know I can't wait those few weeks between the start of the tour and my show, lol. So I bet I'll look at it.
You've seen DT once? You're still a cherry! Should I assume you never saw them with MP? I literally lost track of how many times I've seen them live but I have to assume you're much younger than me. I am lucky enough to have been at their rehearsals with Charlie and many times after but before JLB. I can still taste the memories of them asking me what I wanted to hear! Light Fuse and Get Away was my first request.
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I've also only seen them once before and that was 20 years ago. Ready to make up for lost time. I would also really like this setlist to be a surprise, but since Austin is the last show, we'd have to wait the longest without peeking and there is no way I'll be able to avoid that!
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Only my 2nd time seeing DT. So hyped. Hyped to see the setlist because I know I can't wait those few weeks between the start of the tour and my show, lol. So I bet I'll look at it.
You've seen DT once? You're still a cherry! Should I assume you never saw them with MP? I literally lost track of how many times I've seen them live but I have to assume you're much younger than me. I am lucky enough to have been at their rehearsals with Charlie and many times after but before JLB. I can still taste the memories of them asking me what I wanted to hear! Light Fuse and Get Away was my first request.
Haha yeah, my first show was in November of 2019. Never saw them with Portnoy. Got into them right before DoT came out. I'm 17, almost 18.
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Only my 2nd time seeing DT. So hyped. Hyped to see the setlist because I know I can't wait those few weeks between the start of the tour and my show, lol. So I bet I'll look at it.
You've seen DT once? You're still a cherry! Should I assume you never saw them with MP? I literally lost track of how many times I've seen them live but I have to assume you're much younger than me. I am lucky enough to have been at their rehearsals with Charlie and many times after but before JLB. I can still taste the memories of them asking me what I wanted to hear! Light Fuse and Get Away was my first request.
Haha yeah, my first show was in November of 2019. Never saw them with Portnoy. Got into them right before DoT came out. I'm 17, almost 18.
Glasser is 67, almost 68.
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Only my 2nd time seeing DT. So hyped. Hyped to see the setlist because I know I can't wait those few weeks between the start of the tour and my show, lol. So I bet I'll look at it.
You've seen DT once? You're still a cherry! Should I assume you never saw them with MP? I literally lost track of how many times I've seen them live but I have to assume you're much younger than me. I am lucky enough to have been at their rehearsals with Charlie and many times after but before JLB. I can still taste the memories of them asking me what I wanted to hear! Light Fuse and Get Away was my first request.
Haha yeah, my first show was in November of 2019. Never saw them with Portnoy. Got into them right before DoT came out. I'm 17, almost 18.
You're awesome!!!! You're the same age as my youngest son!!! Its great that the kids like DT!!! Enjoy the show and I hope you post you're thoughts after!!!! :metal :tup
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Only my 2nd time seeing DT. So hyped. Hyped to see the setlist because I know I can't wait those few weeks between the start of the tour and my show, lol. So I bet I'll look at it.
You've seen DT once? You're still a cherry! Should I assume you never saw them with MP? I literally lost track of how many times I've seen them live but I have to assume you're much younger than me. I am lucky enough to have been at their rehearsals with Charlie and many times after but before JLB. I can still taste the memories of them asking me what I wanted to hear! Light Fuse and Get Away was my first request.
Haha yeah, my first show was in November of 2019. Never saw them with Portnoy. Got into them right before DoT came out. I'm 17, almost 18.
You're awesome!!!! You're the same age as my youngest son!!! Its great that the kids like DT!!! Enjoy the show and I hope you post you're thoughts after!!!! :metal :tup
Haha thanks man! And I will definitely post my thoughts after the show. Just about a month left to wait!
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Thank goodness, I am not the oldest here. Phew!
Although, I will hit that magical Sgt. Pepper Side Two, Track Two in less than two months <do I insert a smiley or a frown here?>
I do believe the wife will still need me and feed me. At least I hope so ;)
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Thank goodness, I am not the oldest here. Phew!
I was kidding about Glasser. Unless he stayed back a couple of years, I'm a year older than he is.
So....you are still the oldest here. ;D
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Thank goodness, I am not the oldest here. Phew!
I was kidding about Glasser. Unless he stayed back a couple of years, I'm a year older than he is.
So....you are still the oldest here. ;D
I'm 51. 52 in May.
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Not surprisingly, no VIP, interviews, etc. with the band. Fan club pre show meet-ups are a go, though! Yay! They are way fun!! :metal
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I just looked into meet and greet ticket add ons for this tour but seem to be all social distanced. Not judging the call, but I'd rather wait until I can do a real meet and greet. Hoping for that next tour.
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Here we go folks. As of a notification tonight, arrangements are being made for preshow get togethers. Yea! :tup
There will NOT be after show meet 'n greets with the band <sigh> Understandable.
DC will be set for either The Elephant & Castle, or the 1331 Club at the JW Marriott (both are within two blocks of the Warner Theater).
Nicholas (thanks to Victoria....and, no, I am not making up this 'scene' ;)) and I hosted the most attended DT preshow in DC on Tax Day three years ago. We just don't know how we'll manage this time.
My wife and I attended a show at The Warner in November. Masks at all times, and a vax card required to enter.
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Well, I requested and received a refund for Minneapolis and last night, requested a refund for St. Louis. :(
With the wife's health problems along with the omicron surge, we just can't risk it even though we are triple vaxxed with the Moderna. <Deeeeep Sigh>
My only hope is that with after the international leg of the tour, demand will be high enough to schedule additional dates back here in the States later on in the year. I also hope the video at least one of the shows. I'd buy a DVD.
But hey, I recognize that others have it worse than me.
Much love to all the healthcare workers! :tup
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Sorry to hear that, Hunnus. But understandable. Stay well.
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For those suffering from COVID, I hope you all get better soon. Bummer.
Regarding the tour, I picked up a ticket to the Oakland gig. Got a great orchestra section seat on the aisle. Really looking forward to the show. Hoping they play the title track from the new record. Really enjoy that one.
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Regarding the tour, I picked up a ticket to the Oakland gig. Got a great orchestra section seat on the aisle. Really looking forward to the show. Hoping they play the title track from the new record. Really enjoy that one.
The title track is guaranteed.
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Any members here going to the Beacon show...would be cool to meet some ppl ....and does anyone have any recommendations on restaurants near The Beacon Theater
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Regarding the tour, I picked up a ticket to the Oakland gig. Got a great orchestra section seat on the aisle. Really looking forward to the show. Hoping they play the title track from the new record. Really enjoy that one.
Jordan posted a video saying he was preparing for the tour by posting a video of the solo from the title track. I know he’s posted other things before from songs that aren’t being played, but I feel like practicing a solo from the title track of their new album means there’s a solid chance they’re playing it lol.
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Mike shared pics of his new kit on Facebook and had this to say in the comments:
for the record, this kit is being used for this tour because it is the AVFTTOTW tour with a lot of music from it. It is far less musical for older releases because it doesn't match the music. Although a 4 piece could be used, it has no chance whatsoever to be as musical since the music can't be played like the music goes. It has less tones, less frequencies to shake your lower parts, less range. It requires more sacrifices musically, but it is enough for me to play classic Dream Theater and kind of get through my era of DT pre AVFTTOTW.
I wonder if they'll be playing every song off the new album each night?
-Marc.
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Mike shared pics of his new kit on Facebook and had this to say in the comments:
for the record, this kit is being used for this tour because it is the AVFTTOTW tour with a lot of music from it. It is far less musical for older releases because it doesn't match the music. Although a 4 piece could be used, it has no chance whatsoever to be as musical since the music can't be played like the music goes. It has less tones, less frequencies to shake your lower parts, less range. It requires more sacrifices musically, but it is enough for me to play classic Dream Theater and kind of get through my era of DT pre AVFTTOTW.
I wonder if they'll be playing every song off the new album each night?
-Marc.
God I hope they don't do that.
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Mike shared pics of his new kit on Facebook and had this to say in the comments:
for the record, this kit is being used for this tour because it is the AVFTTOTW tour with a lot of music from it. It is far less musical for older releases because it doesn't match the music. Although a 4 piece could be used, it has no chance whatsoever to be as musical since the music can't be played like the music goes. It has less tones, less frequencies to shake your lower parts, less range. It requires more sacrifices musically, but it is enough for me to play classic Dream Theater and kind of get through my era of DT pre AVFTTOTW.
I wonder if they'll be playing every song off the new album each night?
-Marc.
God I hope they don't do that.
Well, he just said...It matches the new album though, and we're playing a lot of it, so this kit should be fun to play.
- with regards to the new kit. Then someone replied saying they should play the whole album and Mike liked the comment.
I'd say out of the 7 new songs, they'll play at least 5, including the 3 that were singles and the epic.
-Marc.
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TA, IM, TSG, ATM & AVFTTOTW
My guess
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It is far less musical for older releases because it doesn't match the music. Although a 4 piece could be used, it has no chance whatsoever to be as musical since the music can't be played like the music goes.
-MM
Can someone who musics better than me explain what he's talking about here?
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It is far less musical for older releases because it doesn't match the music. Although a 4 piece could be used, it has no chance whatsoever to be as musical since the music can't be played like the music goes.
-MM
Can someone who musics better than me explain what he's talking about here?
The drum set he used to record View was relatively small to other sets he's used. He's using a small kit on tour. It will work for the songs from View because it's got all of the individual drums and cymbals that he played on view. However, he'll have to make modifications for some of the older songs because the kit won't have all of the drums/cymbals needed to play those songs exactly as they were on the albums.
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It is far less musical for older releases because it doesn't match the music. Although a 4 piece could be used, it has no chance whatsoever to be as musical since the music can't be played like the music goes.
-MM
Can someone who musics better than me explain what he's talking about here?
The drum set he used to record View was relatively small to other sets he's used. He's using a small kit on tour. It will work for the songs from View because it's got all of the individual drums and cymbals that he played on view. However, he'll have to make modifications for some of the older songs because the kit won't have all of the drums/cymbals needed to play those songs exactly as they were on the albums.
So he's got to add pieces to account for older songs. Makes sense :tup
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OK, new set-list prediction based on this latest information.
The Glass Prison
At Wits End
The Alien
Answering the Call
Invisible Monster
Sleeping Giant
Transcending Time
Awaken the Master
A View from the Top of the World
Encore: Octavarium
Total run time just under 2 hours
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That would be cool,but I don't see them doing two epics back to back.
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It is far less musical for older releases because it doesn't match the music. Although a 4 piece could be used, it has no chance whatsoever to be as musical since the music can't be played like the music goes.
-MM
Can someone who musics better than me explain what he's talking about here?
The drum set he used to record View was relatively small to other sets he's used. He's using a small kit on tour. It will work for the songs from View because it's got all of the individual drums and cymbals that he played on view. However, he'll have to make modifications for some of the older songs because the kit won't have all of the drums/cymbals needed to play those songs exactly as they were on the albums.
So he's got to add pieces to account for older songs. Makes sense :tup
The new touring kit is basically his AVFTTOTW studio kit + 2 more drums and a few extra cymbals, but it's still smaller than his previous kits and most of the "big" kits MP used.
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The new touring kit is basically his AVFTTOTW studio kit + 2 more drums and a few extra cymbals, but it's still smaller than his previous kits and most of the "big" kits MP used.
It's funny that his kit continues to get smaller and smaller with each progressive tour, which is a bit ironic to me given how he was so proud of the massive kit he put together and used for ADToE. I know he has his "reasons" in trying to be more efficient or to challenge himself or whatever he says (I don't remember), but I wonder if part of it comes down to economics and the fact that he is an employee as opposed to an equal member to JP and JM. MP could get away with it since he was equal to JP and JM, but MM obviously is not. Plus with the additional "production" JP wants to bring along with the fancier stage setups and whatnot, I wonder if that could be a reason why they wanted him to trim down the size of his kit.
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The new touring kit is basically his AVFTTOTW studio kit + 2 more drums and a few extra cymbals, but it's still smaller than his previous kits and most of the "big" kits MP used.
It's funny that his kit continues to get smaller and smaller with each progressive tour, which is a bit ironic to me given how he was so proud of the massive kit he put together and used for ADToE. I know he has his "reasons" in trying to be more efficient or to challenge himself or whatever he says (I don't remember), but I wonder if part of it comes down to economics and the fact that he is an employee as opposed to an equal member to JP and JM. MP could get away with it since he was equal to JP and JM, but MM obviously is not. Plus with the additional "production" JP wants to bring along with the fancier stage setups and whatnot, I wonder if that could be a reason why they wanted him to trim down the size of his kit.
I didn't think that he was an employee.
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They don't look at him as a employee. They said he is a member of DT the day they chose him from the auditions. In fact, they said "Welcome to the DT family"!
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The new touring kit is basically his AVFTTOTW studio kit + 2 more drums and a few extra cymbals, but it's still smaller than his previous kits and most of the "big" kits MP used.
It's funny that his kit continues to get smaller and smaller with each progressive tour, which is a bit ironic to me given how he was so proud of the massive kit he put together and used for ADToE. I know he has his "reasons" in trying to be more efficient or to challenge himself or whatever he says (I don't remember), but I wonder if part of it comes down to economics and the fact that he is an employee as opposed to an equal member to JP and JM. MP could get away with it since he was equal to JP and JM, but MM obviously is not. Plus with the additional "production" JP wants to bring along with the fancier stage setups and whatnot, I wonder if that could be a reason why they wanted him to trim down the size of his kit.
Are you saying that JP is dictating the size of Mike's kit? Because of economics?
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The new touring kit is basically his AVFTTOTW studio kit + 2 more drums and a few extra cymbals, but it's still smaller than his previous kits and most of the "big" kits MP used.
It's funny that his kit continues to get smaller and smaller with each progressive tour, which is a bit ironic to me given how he was so proud of the massive kit he put together and used for ADToE. I know he has his "reasons" in trying to be more efficient or to challenge himself or whatever he says (I don't remember), but I wonder if part of it comes down to economics and the fact that he is an employee as opposed to an equal member to JP and JM. MP could get away with it since he was equal to JP and JM, but MM obviously is not. Plus with the additional "production" JP wants to bring along with the fancier stage setups and whatnot, I wonder if that could be a reason why they wanted him to trim down the size of his kit.
We could try, but I don't think any of us fully comprehend MM's reasoning behind a lot of stuff :lol
What I do know, though, is that he's made comments a couple times about being asked to bring less stuff with him, specially to the studio in AVFTTOTW (since they couldn't really fit a bigger kit there). But there's also what you say about him liking to be challenged to come up with a different approach for things.
Another issue would be touring costs as you said as well, but I'd imagine that'd be something they'd consider even with MP still in the band.
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My guess is he's a member of the Corp. or LLC, but has less of a percentage of ownership (certainly less than founding members JP & JM).
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That would be cool,but I don't see them doing two epics back to back.
Probably not, but would be a kick ass show!
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It's funny that his kit continues to get smaller and smaller with each progressive tour, which is a bit ironic to me given how he was so proud of the massive kit he put together and used for ADToE. I know he has his "reasons" in trying to be more efficient or to challenge himself or whatever he says (I don't remember), but I wonder if part of it comes down to economics and the fact that he is an employee as opposed to an equal member to JP and JM. MP could get away with it since he was equal to JP and JM, but MM obviously is not. Plus with the additional "production" JP wants to bring along with the fancier stage setups and whatnot, I wonder if that could be a reason why they wanted him to trim down the size of his kit.
Do you have a source for this? Have you seen the relevant band agreements or have other reliable information about this? While the relevant agreements could say otherwise, everything said publicly since MM joined indicates that he is a "full member" of the band and not merely an employee.
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They don't look at him as a employee. They said he is a member of DT the day they chose him from the auditions. In fact, they said "Welcome to the DT family"!
I'm not saying he's not a full band member (as opposed to a side man or "hired gun"), but I'm pretty sure he's not an owner of the band like JP and JM and therefore doesn't have an equal say in business/administrative stuff (as opposed to musical output where his input is welcomed 100% and treated equally to the other guys). I would imagine the same for JR and JL, at least for a period of time after they became band members. Probably not unlike all the guys other than Neal Schon and Jonathan Cain in Journey, or Scott Travis and Richie Faulkner in Judas Priest. They are official band members, but not equal with founding or long-time members of their respective bands.
Are you saying that JP is dictating the size of Mike's kit? Because of economics?
I'm not making an accusation that he is, but I do wonder if that could be something considered, especially given the (I imagine) especially tight budgets they are probably working within for this tour in light of the pandemic not being over yet.
Another issue would be touring costs as you said as well, but I'd imagine that'd be something they'd consider even with MP still in the band.
And that was something that did play a role in the band's tours to South America (and I believe Australia/Oceania). I know MP went from his Siamese Monster (and similar kits) to a single kit with 2 bass drums. JP also used his "B" rig on at least the 20th Anniversary tour, and preferred how it sounded, so he continued to use it for the rest of the tour. Here's video from their show in Chile where you can see the scaled down setup (in comparison to what you see in the Score video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnVjmKY5Nag
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We could try, but I don't think any of us fully comprehend MM's reasoning behind a lot of stuff :lol
Yeah I've given up on this :lol
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*snip* wrong thread :facepalm:
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If ever there was a tour for them to go with a spartan setup it’s this one. Would be fine if was a simple stage and at most a simple video backdrop. Just glad to have them around again in a few weeks.
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The last couple of tours, they have played at the Bass Hall in Austin which seats 2900 people. The stage is HUGE and the production that DT brought during the DoT run looked really really nice.
This time around, they are playing at the ACL Moody Theater (the one you see in TV) which holds 2750. But the stage is way way smaller. My guess is that DT is running with a lot smaller production this time around.
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Here's video from their show in Chile where you can see the scaled down setup (in comparison to what you see in the Score video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnVjmKY5Nag
I can't believe this is the first time I'm seeing that footage. Was thay an official bootleg or something?
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Here's video from their show in Chile where you can see the scaled down setup (in comparison to what you see in the Score video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnVjmKY5Nag
I can't believe this is the first time I'm seeing that footage. Was than an official bootleg or something?
it was yes, a DVD.
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So Mike is scaling down for the upcoming tour:
(https://scontent.fomr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/272467537_481580756664730_481512694610821427_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_eui2=AeHkiCsHuvHzDn9-8uQDxoPYnW2ykSDGuA2dbbKRIMa4DXWH_fZiG6nTANQnYOkv9k5vY0zCwrgJSzsraiyVoJ-1&_nc_ohc=sOrU7QSIrsIAX_6yKuW&_nc_ht=scontent.fomr1-1.fna&oh=00_AT84z6aZGX1YyGRZF4Zj4GEmVNNvt3P6Khe6IEFqHKa1Yw&oe=61F5FE19)
Mike' comments:
for the record, this kit is being used for this tour because it is the AVFTTOTW tour with a lot of music from it. It is far less musical for older releases because it doesn't match the music. Although a 4 piece could be used, it has no chance whatsoever to be as musical since the music can't be played like the music goes. It has less tones, less frequencies to shake your lower parts, less range. It requires more sacrifices musically, but it is enough for me to play classic Dream Theater and kind of get through my era of DT pre AVFTTOTW. (...) It matches the new album though, and we're playing a lot of it, so this kit should be fun to play.
I'm really looking forward to see him on a more normal sized kit, but it also made me think; I've been playing drums for nearly a decade now and I always pay close attention to the drums, but it never in a million years would have occurred to me that the new album had "less drums". If anything, I would have guessed the opposite, I think it's by far the best sounding drums of the Mangini-era, and they seem more melodic than ever before. So I guess it's a quality vs. quantity issue, mix the drums better and nail the sound and the end result will be more pleasing than three siamese monster kits glued together but having the snare sound of DT12.
It's also once again an interesting perspective from Mangini (speaking about frequencies and tooones) with regards to how the musician views the music as opposed to a fan. I wonder if budget restrains have anything to do with scaling down. At any rate, it will be interesting to see Mangini without his cage, although I will miss that fourth octoban.
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Here's video from their show in Chile where you can see the scaled down setup (in comparison to what you see in the Score video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnVjmKY5Nag
I can't believe this is the first time I'm seeing that footage. Was thay an official bootleg or something?
Yes, be of the old Ytsejsm releases. It’s freaking awesome. They look like Led Zeppelin on that stage.
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Here's video from their show in Chile where you can see the scaled down setup (in comparison to what you see in the Score video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnVjmKY5Nag
I can't believe this is the first time I'm seeing that footage. Was thay an official bootleg or something?
Yes, be of the old Ytsejsm releases. It’s freaking awesome. They look like Led Zeppelin on that stage.
I have this DVD, it's the craziest crowd I've ever seen for a DT concert. I think that's what makes that show so unique and worthy of the official bootleg.
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Honestly, I'd be fine if the setlist comprised mostly, if not all of A View From the Top. Its a solid album.
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Honestly, I'd be fine if the setlist comprised mostly, if not all of A View From the Top. Its a solid album.
I'd be OK with it just to see the songs live at least once, but I really don't think this would go over well with the general audience and really doubt they go this route.
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The DC preshow on March 6th will once again be at The Elephant & Castle as it was a couple of years ago from 4-7pm
https://www.elephantcastle.com/en.html
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Honestly, I'd be fine if the setlist comprised mostly, if not all of A View From the Top. Its a solid album.
I'd be OK with it just to see the songs live at least once, but I really don't think this would go over well with the general audience and really doubt they go this route.
agree
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Honestly, I'd be fine if the setlist comprised mostly, if not all of A View From the Top. Its a solid album.
I'd be OK with it just to see the songs live at least once, but I really don't think this would go over well with the general audience and really doubt they go this route.
Same...and myself included -- especially if they do a shorter than usual set because of having an opening act.
Speaking of which...can someone fill in the blank: Arch Echo sounds similar to ____? Also, what are a couple of songs they are pretty likely to play that I might want to check out?
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Honestly, I'd be fine if the setlist comprised mostly, if not all of A View From the Top. Its a solid album.
I agree 100%! This would be the perfect time to record and release "A Live View From The Top Of The World". New album start to finish with a few encores. DONE.
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Speaking of which...can someone fill in the blank: Arch Echo sounds similar to ____? Also, what are a couple of songs they are pretty likely to play that I might want to check out?
They have a similar sound to Intervals, plini, Chon and other instrumental bands, but different writing style in a way. This piece is pretty much guarantee to get played, I think.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F65IQmP7lCk
I would like to see this one
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PW2aInAygfI
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Speaking of which...can someone fill in the blank: Arch Echo sounds similar to ____? Also, what are a couple of songs they are pretty likely to play that I might want to check out?
They have a similar sound to Intervals, plini, Chon and other instrumental bands, but different writing style in a way. This piece is pretty much guarantee to get played, I think.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F65IQmP7lCk
I would like to see this one
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PW2aInAygfI
That doesn't help me at all. Are they an instrumental band? Thanks for the song recs.
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Yes, all 4 are instrumental bands.if you are not into instrumental bands then you might not like their stuff, but if you do enjoy some instrumental music then is worth checking them out, specially Plini
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Are they an instrumental band?
Yes they are. I'm not crazy about instrumental bands. They seem pretty solid for what they are, but don't really get me excited. Having said that, I certainly plan on getting there in time to check them out. (and as someone who has thought DT should have an opener for a few years now, I better put my money where my mouth is :lol )
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Arch Echo has been one of my favorite bands in the last few years. I think of them as a much more melodical version of LTE.
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I would consider Arch Echo Instrumental Melodic Rhythmic Groove Progressive Metal.
Arch Echo reminds me of a mix between Frost, Dream Theater, Steve Vai, with the rhythm of Tesseract.
I would also suggest To The Moon, Stella, and My Heart Hurts
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I'm really excited guys. I have only been to 2 shows since the pandemic hit and this will be the one I am looking forwards to the most. The pairing of Dream Theater and Arch Echo is fantastic. It's going to be a blast being at their first show since as well and being a part of that experience.
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I'm really excited guys. I have only been to 2 shows since the pandemic hit and this will be the one I am looking forwards to the most. The pairing of Dream Theater and Arch Echo is fantastic. It's going to be a blast being at their first show since as well and being a part of that experience.
Would love it if you could share the setlist with us in real time :hefdaddy
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I'm really excited guys. I have only been to 2 shows since the pandemic hit and this will be the one I am looking forwards to the most. The pairing of Dream Theater and Arch Echo is fantastic. It's going to be a blast being at their first show since as well and being a part of that experience.
:metal Same feelings over here. My last show before the pandemic hit was Periphery, Plini, and Arch Echo. That was probably one of my best live music experiences ever.
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TesseracT announced as the support for the UK shows, hell yeah. As somebody who was meant to see them supporting Trivium last year before that tour got changed and was disappointed Devin Townsend wasn't the support in the UK, I am now even more excited for this show. I've seen TesseracT a few times before so I'd be very happy with the set they were playing supporting Bullet for My Valentine last year as that has a few songs in in they've never played live before plus most of the favourites.
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I'm really excited guys. I have only been to 2 shows since the pandemic hit and this will be the one I am looking forwards to the most. The pairing of Dream Theater and Arch Echo is fantastic. It's going to be a blast being at their first show since as well and being a part of that experience.
:metal Same feelings over here. My last show before the pandemic hit was Periphery, Plini, and Arch Echo. That was probably one of my best live music experiences ever.
That was a great show. It's very memorable for me as it's the show where I took my last drink, after that I stopped drinking.
I'm really excited guys. I have only been to 2 shows since the pandemic hit and this will be the one I am looking forwards to the most. The pairing of Dream Theater and Arch Echo is fantastic. It's going to be a blast being at their first show since as well and being a part of that experience.
Would love it if you could share the setlist with us in real time :hefdaddy
I'll try my best, I will start a new thread to post the setlist spoilers... I'll likely start it a couple days sooner to get some predictions going, to have some fun before the reveal.
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Are they an instrumental band?
Yes they are. I'm not crazy about instrumental bands. They seem pretty solid for what they are, but don't really get me excited. Having said that, I certainly plan on getting there in time to check them out. (and as someone who has thought DT should have an opener for a few years now, I better put my money where my mouth is :lol )
The Color Wheel song wasn't bad. Not as wanky as I might have expected. I'm not a fan of instrumental bands, but it's better than having some growly voiced doof (on one of the Prog Nation tours, they had Redemption and then Opeth; Redemption was really good, and we walked out on Opeth within a minute after the guy started "singing"). This just lets me know I don't have to be uber-concerned about being on time. Unfortunately, I won't have the option of going to a Kings game beforehand.
Ten day countdown starts today.
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I'm really excited guys. I have only been to 2 shows since the pandemic hit and this will be the one I am looking forwards to the most. The pairing of Dream Theater and Arch Echo is fantastic. It's going to be a blast being at their first show since as well and being a part of that experience.
Would love it if you could share the setlist with us in real time :hefdaddy
I'll try my best, I will start a new thread to post the setlist spoilers... I'll likely start it a couple days sooner to get some predictions going, to have some fun before the reveal.
Thanks a lot! :metal
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Speaking of which...can someone fill in the blank: Arch Echo sounds similar to ____? Also, what are a couple of songs they are pretty likely to play that I might want to check out?
They have a similar sound to Intervals, plini, Chon and other instrumental bands, but different writing style in a way. This piece is pretty much guarantee to get played, I think.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F65IQmP7lCk
I would like to see this one
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PW2aInAygfI
That doesn't help me at all. Are they an instrumental band? Thanks for the song recs.
He literally answered your q. Have you considered looking into it yourself in the last 8 months since the tour was announced?
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Are they an instrumental band?
Yes they are. I'm not crazy about instrumental bands. They seem pretty solid for what they are, but don't really get me excited. Having said that, I certainly plan on getting there in time to check them out. (and as someone who has thought DT should have an opener for a few years now, I better put my money where my mouth is :lol )
The Color Wheel song wasn't bad. Not as wanky as I might have expected. I'm not a fan of instrumental bands, but it's better than having some growly voiced doof (on one of the Prog Nation tours, they had Redemption and then Opeth; Redemption was really good, and we walked out on Opeth within a minute after the guy started "singing"). This just lets me know I don't have to be uber-concerned about being on time. Unfortunately, I won't have the option of going to a Kings game beforehand.
Ten day countdown starts today.
I do wonder sometimes why people do not enjoy instrumental music, when it's music without vocals. To me, it seems they really enjoy the voice more so than the music. Which then makes me ask, how one who doesn't enjoy instrumental music views Acapella music?
Regardless of being an instrumental band. Arch Echo does things that most instrumental bands do not, and they blended a lot of modern styles into their music. I love it for that fact and they deserve to get more recognition.
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Speaking of which...can someone fill in the blank: Arch Echo sounds similar to ____? Also, what are a couple of songs they are pretty likely to play that I might want to check out?
They have a similar sound to Intervals, plini, Chon and other instrumental bands, but different writing style in a way. This piece is pretty much guarantee to get played, I think.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F65IQmP7lCk
I would like to see this one
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PW2aInAygfI
That doesn't help me at all. Are they an instrumental band? Thanks for the song recs.
He literally answered your q. Have you considered looking into it yourself in the last 8 months since the tour was announced?
What do you think the purpose of my question was if not "looking into it"? Could I have gone to YouTube and searched without asking the question here? Sure. You got a problem with me asking here? WTF?
I do wonder sometimes why people do not enjoy instrumental music, when it's music without vocals. To me, it seems they really enjoy the voice more so than the music. Which then makes me ask, how one who doesn't enjoy instrumental music views Acapella music?
I don't mind the occasional instrumental, but I generally want vocals to go with the music. For example, I really dig LTE's Acid Rain, but I wouldn't want a whole album of it. And I have almost zero interest in a cappella stuff (even though I've heard the occasional cool song, but that's usually because it's a cover of a song I otherwise like).
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TesseracT announced as the support for the UK shows, hell yeah. As somebody who was meant to see them supporting Trivium last year before that tour got changed and was disappointed Devin Townsend wasn't the support in the UK, I am now even more excited for this show. I've seen TesseracT a few times before so I'd be very happy with the set they were playing supporting Bullet for My Valentine last year as that has a few songs in in they've never played live before plus most of the favourites.
When I read that, I thought "ooh, I may have to get tickets after all", then remembered they're not playing in Scotland this tour :lol :'(
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Speaking of which...can someone fill in the blank: Arch Echo sounds similar to ____? Also, what are a couple of songs they are pretty likely to play that I might want to check out?
They have a similar sound to Intervals, plini, Chon and other instrumental bands, but different writing style in a way. This piece is pretty much guarantee to get played, I think.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F65IQmP7lCk
I would like to see this one
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PW2aInAygfI
That doesn't help me at all. Are they an instrumental band? Thanks for the song recs.
He literally answered your q. Have you considered looking into it yourself in the last 8 months since the tour was announced?
What do you think the purpose of my question was if not "looking into it"? Could I have gone to YouTube and searched without asking the question here? Sure. You got a problem with me asking here? WTF?
I do wonder sometimes why people do not enjoy instrumental music, when it's music without vocals. To me, it seems they really enjoy the voice more so than the music. Which then makes me ask, how one who doesn't enjoy instrumental music views Acapella music?
I don't mind the occasional instrumental, but I generally want vocals to go with the music. For example, I really dig LTE's Acid Rain, but I wouldn't want a whole album of it. And I have almost zero interest in a cappella stuff (even though I've heard the occasional cool song, but that's usually because it's a cover of a song I otherwise like).
You asked what they sound like. You were answered. They said they are similar to OTHER instrumental bands. You then asked if they were an instrumental band.
Lol
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It's interesting to see how brains are wired different regarding music. I tend to listen to the music first, then vocals/lyrics. So for me, LTE, Plini, and Arch Echo really impacted my music tastes. Even though Dream Theater was my first real prog metal band, the music is what caught my attention first. As my music tastes have changed and evolved, I still focus on the music first, then vocals/lyrics.
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Just received an email from Sound Rink the band has decided that the M&G will be canceled this year
Totally understandable.
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Just received an email from Sound Rink the band has decided that the M&G will be canceled this year
Totally understandable.
I thought it already was.
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So...who all is going to the Los Angeles show next Saturday? Any meet ups planned?
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Yes, all 4 are instrumental bands.if you are not into instrumental bands then you might not like their stuff, but if you do enjoy some instrumental music then is worth checking them out, specially Plini
Give Plini as try PG... especially "Pan" from the "Impulse Voices" album. Awesome use of an 8-string in a more ambient way imo.
TesseracT announced as the support for the UK shows, hell yeah. As somebody who was meant to see them supporting Trivium last year before that tour got changed and was disappointed Devin Townsend wasn't the support in the UK, I am now even more excited for this show. I've seen TesseracT a few times before so I'd be very happy with the set they were playing supporting Bullet for My Valentine last year as that has a few songs in in they've never played live before plus most of the favourites.
When I read that, I thought "ooh, I may have to get tickets after all", then remembered they're not playing in Scotland this tour :lol :'(
Ehhh... I would kill to see TesseracT live and with DT to boot. Man, that's tempting if I could manage a flight (and talk my wife into it). A killer line-up for me would be TesseracT, BTBAM, and DT; call it the "Altered Colors in the Viewfinder" tour. Have a show at Pompeii ala Gilmour...
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I'm on the road to Mesa for tomorrow's show. Gonna be a blast, and it might be snowing too.
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So...who all is going to the Los Angeles show next Saturday? Any meet ups planned?
Anyone? Bueller?
Now I have to decide whether or not to look at the set list before Saturday. I think I probably will since I'm not as up to speed with View as I'd like to be.
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Yes, all 4 are instrumental bands.if you are not into instrumental bands then you might not like their stuff, but if you do enjoy some instrumental music then is worth checking them out, specially Plini
Give Plini as try PG... especially "Pan" from the "Impulse Voices" album. Awesome use of an 8-string in a more ambient way imo.
TesseracT announced as the support for the UK shows, hell yeah. As somebody who was meant to see them supporting Trivium last year before that tour got changed and was disappointed Devin Townsend wasn't the support in the UK, I am now even more excited for this show. I've seen TesseracT a few times before so I'd be very happy with the set they were playing supporting Bullet for My Valentine last year as that has a few songs in in they've never played live before plus most of the favourites.
When I read that, I thought "ooh, I may have to get tickets after all", then remembered they're not playing in Scotland this tour :lol :'(
Ehhh... I would kill to see TesseracT live and with DT to boot. Man, that's tempting if I could manage a flight (and talk my wife into it). A killer line-up for me would be TesseracT, BTBAM, and DT; call it the "Altered Colors in the Viewfinder" tour. Have a show at Pompeii ala Gilmour...
Did you see TesseracT, BTBAM and Plini together in 2018?
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Yes, all 4 are instrumental bands.if you are not into instrumental bands then you might not like their stuff, but if you do enjoy some instrumental music then is worth checking them out, specially Plini
Give Plini as try PG... especially "Pan" from the "Impulse Voices" album. Awesome use of an 8-string in a more ambient way imo.
TesseracT announced as the support for the UK shows, hell yeah. As somebody who was meant to see them supporting Trivium last year before that tour got changed and was disappointed Devin Townsend wasn't the support in the UK, I am now even more excited for this show. I've seen TesseracT a few times before so I'd be very happy with the set they were playing supporting Bullet for My Valentine last year as that has a few songs in in they've never played live before plus most of the favourites.
When I read that, I thought "ooh, I may have to get tickets after all", then remembered they're not playing in Scotland this tour :lol :'(
Ehhh... I would kill to see TesseracT live and with DT to boot. Man, that's tempting if I could manage a flight (and talk my wife into it). A killer line-up for me would be TesseracT, BTBAM, and DT; call it the "Altered Colors in the Viewfinder" tour. Have a show at Pompeii ala Gilmour...
Did you see TesseracT, BTBAM and Plini together in 2018?
Sadly no... business kept me from the show closest to me. I'm sure it was incredible!
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3 more days for me in San Diego. Friday can't come soon enough. I'm debating whether or not I should peak at the Mesa setlist after tomorrow night.
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For the Oakland show on Sunday there is a DT USA meet-up.
Feb 06 Drake's Dealership, Oakland, CA, 4-6pm
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3 more days for me in San Diego. Friday can't come soon enough. I'm debating whether or not I should peak at the Mesa setlist after tomorrow night.
As hard as I try to resist I always look at the setlist.
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3 more days for me in San Diego. Friday can't come soon enough. I'm debating whether or not I should peak at the Mesa setlist after tomorrow night.
As hard as I try to resist I always look at the setlist.
I get anxiety thinking about what they’re going to play next, and don’t enjoy the show as much. I’ve never been to the first show of a tour, for anyone. And I’m not old enough to have attended shows pre-internet. So it’s never been a surprise except for the MP era DT shows. And even then, you kinda knew what to expect. It’ll start with A or B. End song will be A or B. These songs, and these songs will be flip-flopped.
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TesseracT announced as the support for the UK shows, hell yeah. As somebody who was meant to see them supporting Trivium last year before that tour got changed and was disappointed Devin Townsend wasn't the support in the UK, I am now even more excited for this show. I've seen TesseracT a few times before so I'd be very happy with the set they were playing supporting Bullet for My Valentine last year as that has a few songs in in they've never played live before plus most of the favourites.
When I read that, I thought "ooh, I may have to get tickets after all", then remembered they're not playing in Scotland this tour :lol :'(
Ehhh... I would kill to see TesseracT live and with DT to boot. Man, that's tempting if I could manage a flight (and talk my wife into it). A killer line-up for me would be TesseracT, BTBAM, and DT; call it the "Altered Colors in the Viewfinder" tour. Have a show at Pompeii ala Gilmour...
I travelled to Manchester and London to see DT on previous tours when they didn't come to Scotland, but I don't have it in me these days. I've thankfully been able to Tesseract in the past too, though both of them on the same bill should be great.
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For the Oakland show on Sunday there is a DT USA meet-up.
Feb 06 Drake's Dealership, Oakland, CA, 4-6pm
Not sure whether I will get down there that early, but if so, I may stop by.
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For the Oakland show on Sunday there is a DT USA meet-up.
Feb 06 Drake's Dealership, Oakland, CA, 4-6pm
Not sure whether I will get down there that early, but if so, I may stop by.
Yay! I thought you weren't going to be able to make it, but I am so glad you are!!
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For the Oakland show on Sunday there is a DT USA meet-up.
Feb 06 Drake's Dealership, Oakland, CA, 4-6pm
Not sure whether I will get down there that early, but if so, I may stop by.
Yay! I thought you weren't going to be able to make it, but I am so glad you are!!
Yeah, I was supposed to be in Florida at that time, but that ended up being canceled.
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Any meet up planned for the Connecticut show? It came up in the concerts thread, but I am tentatively planning on road tripping to that show and it seems a few other DTFers may be there. I'm just holding off booking it until it gets closer and to see the setlist.
The Red Bank show being during the week makes it hard for me to do a meet up before hand especially since I want to see the full show. Connecticut is on a Saturday which is a big reason to make that my 2nd show of the tour.
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3 more days for me in San Diego. Friday can't come soon enough. I'm debating whether or not I should peak at the Mesa setlist after tomorrow night.
As hard as I try to resist I always look at the setlist.
Yeah, I have a feeling I won't be able to resist peeking at it LOL. First show is tonight!!
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Any meet up planned for the Connecticut show? It came up in the concerts thread, but I am tentatively planning on road tripping to that show and it seems a few other DTFers may be there. I'm just holding off booking it until it gets closer and to see the setlist.
The Red Bank show being during the week makes it hard for me to do a meet up before hand especially since I want to see the full show. Connecticut is on a Saturday which is a big reason to make that my 2nd show of the tour.
I'm in for a meetup. If it was summer, I'd have people over for some grub prior.
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Any meet up planned for the Connecticut show? It came up in the concerts thread, but I am tentatively planning on road tripping to that show and it seems a few other DTFers may be there. I'm just holding off booking it until it gets closer and to see the setlist.
The Red Bank show being during the week makes it hard for me to do a meet up before hand especially since I want to see the full show. Connecticut is on a Saturday which is a big reason to make that my 2nd show of the tour.
I'm in for a meetup. If it was summer, I'd have people over for some grub prior.
:metal :metal
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I'd be up for a meet and greet before the CT show, as well
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trying to resist looking at the setlist, but did anyone at Mesa tonight happen to get a pic of their merch options this tour?
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https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2022/mesa-arts-center-mesa-az-3388c8cd.html
It was really the setlist? A bit surprising.
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Other than Invisible Monster (which I have come around a bit on), I'm 100% amped for that set.
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Yes!!! Even the other song that I like less in the setlist, I give a lot of credit for DT for bring back something unexpected (and sure it will please a lot of fans!).
In terms of A View... it seems like DT will be rotating one song?
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Definitely some interesting choices. Solid setlist. Curious if there's any rotation.
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That was a great show. Like JLB said, "Yes, this is really happening."
I couldn't be happier with the set-list and it was great not knowing the setlist and I was very surprised at the amount of long songs in the set and how they closed the show.
I was not expecting the encore song, but when I heard the first notes, I yelled out, "Oh, fuck yes. They're playing this."
Show was excellent and the setlist worked really well. Some songs transitioned into others pretty good.
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It is taking all I have to not look...only Three Days..after today :biggrin:
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It is taking all I have to not look...only Three Days..after today :biggrin:
Judging by some of your previous posts, I'd say this is a setlist you'll enjoy greatly :tup
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It is taking all I have to not by Days..after today :biggrin:
Judging by some of your previous posts, I'd say this is a setlist you'll enjoy greatly :tup
Omgosh!! Since I've only following DT for 6 six years, I am behind the 8 ball on what I have seen live. I can be excited by really all of their music. But this info takes the excitement up to another level!
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It is taking all I have to not look...only Three Days..after today :biggrin:
I honestly would try my very best not to look at it.
What was great about the setlist was not knowing what was coming next, and that excitement when they played the opening notes of those songs.
If anything, I would suggest to go in blind.
I had to pee during one song and couldn't hold it in any longer. :biggrin:
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I watched some youtube clips and I am glad that James' performance is amazing. Sounds fresh and clean.
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I watched some youtube clips and I am glad that James' performance is amazing. Sounds fresh and clean.
His voice was excellent.
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I watched some youtube clips and I am glad that James' performance is amazing. Sounds fresh and clean.
I've checked the set list and will check agian to see if they change things up, but I will avoid watching videos until after my show. That's where I draw the line. I do wonder if they change anything up in some of the older tracks. But good to hear he sounds good. Maybe a couple years off the road really helped him.
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Ok...looks like I have a potential restroom break between songs 7 and 9.
Kinds of surprised with only one song from SDOIT, but ATC is a great choice.
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It is taking all I have to not look...only Three Days..after today :biggrin:
I honestly would try my very best not to look at it.
What was great about the setlist was not knowing what was coming next, and that excitement when they played the opening notes of those songs.
If anything, I would suggest to go in blind.
I had to pee during one song and couldn't hold it in any longer. :biggrin:
I always stop drinking and pee right before the show....I took FB off my phone...I can do this! I went blind on the last tour. My son was with me. I had turned him onto DT. We were in LA and the show was Super Loud. They started playing those first few raindrop notes of Nightmare...And when it hit me what song it was, I turned to Adem (it was way too loud to talk) and mouthed.."is it???" and he was just nodding furiously with a huge smile :biggrin:. A moment to remember for sure!!
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It is taking all I have to not look...only Three Days..after today :biggrin:
I honestly would try my very best not to look at it.
What was great about the setlist was not knowing what was coming next, and that excitement when they played the opening notes of those songs.
If anything, I would suggest to go in blind.
I had to pee during one song and couldn't hold it in any longer. :biggrin:
I always stop drinking and pee right before the show....I took FB off my phone...I can do this! I went blind on the last tour. My son was with me. I had turned him onto DT. We were in LA and the show was Super Loud. They started playing those first few raindrop notes of Nightmare...And when it hit me what song it was, I turned to Adem (it was way too loud to talk) and mouthed.."is it???" and he was just nodding furiously with a huge smile :biggrin:. A moment to remember for sure!!
You'll be doing that for this one too...
There were also a lot of people with their kids, which is great to see. That boy was rocking out too and enjoying the show. Compared to another one that got tired and sat through A View and TCOT and JLB pointed at him, the his parents looked at their son and made him stand for a bit.
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Most of that set list looks good, but there is a significant portion that I wish was different. Oh well.
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It is taking all I have to not look...only Three Days..after today :biggrin:
I honestly would try my very best not to look at it.
What was great about the setlist was not knowing what was coming next, and that excitement when they played the opening notes of those songs.
If anything, I would suggest to go in blind.
I had to pee during one song and couldn't hold it in any longer. :biggrin:
I always stop drinking and pee right before the show....I took FB off my phone...I can do this! I went blind on the last tour. My son was with me. I had turned him onto DT. We were in LA and the show was Super Loud. They started playing those first few raindrop notes of Nightmare...And when it hit me what song it was, I turned to Adem (it was way too loud to talk) and mouthed.."is it???" and he was just nodding furiously with a huge smile :biggrin:. A moment to remember for sure!!
You'll be doing that for this one too...
There were also a lot of people with their kids, which is great to see. That boy was rocking out too and enjoying the show. Compared to another one that got tired and sat through A View and TCOT and JLB pointed at him, the his parents looked at their son and made him stand for a bit.
As a dad, I can say that both of these stories are awesome. For two different reasons! :lol
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After doing two tours that covered their two most populate albums, this set is very refreshing. It’s defiant geared toward “non-casual” fans.
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After doing two tours that covered their two most populate albums, this set is very refreshing. It’s defiant geared toward “non-casual” fans.
Yeah I can see that. Some interesting choices. I really hope some of these choices are due to them giving room for some song rotations.
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After doing two tours that covered their two most populate albums, this set is very refreshing. It’s defiant geared toward “non-casual” fans.
Yeah I can see that. Some interesting choices. I really hope some of these choices are due to them giving room for some song rotations.
For me there's only one on there that I wouldn't have picked and really didn't need to see live.....TMOLS......but it'll be fine. I'd have preferred TGP in it's place as it's near the same length but it's a small nit pick and not really all that 'bad' a song. Just not one I particularly care for but can see if other people do dig it.
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After doing two tours that covered their two most populate albums, this set is very refreshing. It’s defiant geared toward “non-casual” fans.
Yeah I can see that. Some interesting choices. I really hope some of these choices are due to them giving room for some song rotations.
For me there's only one on there that I wouldn't have picked and really didn't need to see live.....TMOLS......but it'll be fine. I'd have preferred TGP in it's place as it's near the same length but it's a small nit pick and not really all that 'bad' a song. Just not one I particularly care for but can see if other people do dig it.
Similar for me except the song I'd rather swap out is the encore. I'd much rather have something else as the encore.
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After doing two tours that covered their two most populate albums, this set is very refreshing. It’s defiant geared toward “non-casual” fans.
Yeah I can see that. Some interesting choices. I really hope some of these choices are due to them giving room for some song rotations.
For me there's only one on there that I wouldn't have picked and really didn't need to see live.....TMOLS......but it'll be fine. I'd have preferred TGP in it's place as it's near the same length but it's a small nit pick and not really all that 'bad' a song. Just not one I particularly care for but can see if other people do dig it.
Same. I've seen both songs live but would infinitely rather see TGP. The only thing worse of the songs that are about the same length would be TGD. <knock on wood>
I will, however, be annoyed if they swap out any of the other non-View songs.
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After doing two tours that covered their two most populate albums, this set is very refreshing. It’s defiant geared toward “non-casual” fans.
Yeah I can see that. Some interesting choices. I really hope some of these choices are due to them giving room for some song rotations.
For me there's only one on there that I wouldn't have picked and really didn't need to see live.....TMOLS......but it'll be fine. I'd have preferred TGP in it's place as it's near the same length but it's a small nit pick and not really all that 'bad' a song. Just not one I particularly care for but can see if other people do dig it.
Same. I've seen both songs live but would infinitely rather see TGP. The only thing worse of the songs that are about the same length would be TGD. <knock on wood>
I will, however, be annoyed if they swap out any of the other non-View songs.
I think the only thing they'll swap out is a View song. Maybe not even that but idk. I doubt any of the non View stuff will be switched out.
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I think some people were trying to avoid spoilers here... (not myself) Maybe there should be another thread (maybe there is already) for tour spoilers?
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I think some people were trying to avoid spoilers here... (not myself) Maybe there should be another thread (maybe there is already) for tour spoilers?
OMG my bad! I went back and edited/censored my posts.
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I think some people were trying to avoid spoilers here... (not myself) Maybe there should be another thread (maybe there is already) for tour spoilers?
There should be in the Concerts And Setlists (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?board=3.0) subforum.
-Marc.
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I edited mine, but there's one that I quoted and one that quoted mine.
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To the mods: you can probably lock this thread.
Thanks