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Title: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: lonestar on September 25, 2021, 09:10:14 AM
Well, seems I can add another 5/month to my streaming services tally. A friend just posted that the first episode is outstanding, so I bit the bullet and signed up for Apple TV.

I'll watch later tonight after work.

Anyhow, this is the Foundation thread, based on the infamous Asimov novels of the same name.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 25, 2021, 10:16:36 AM
Watched the first episode.....pretty solid. It really jumps right into it so the first few minutes took me a bit to understand what was going on. I was too tired to watch Ep. 2.....probably watch tonight.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: lonestar on September 25, 2021, 10:27:05 AM
Watched the first episode.....pretty solid. It really jumps right into it so the first few minutes took me a bit to understand what was going on. I was too tired to watch Ep. 2.....probably watch tonight.

Is the whole thing up?
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 25, 2021, 01:06:02 PM
Watched the first episode.....pretty solid. It really jumps right into it so the first few minutes took me a bit to understand what was going on. I was too tired to watch Ep. 2.....probably watch tonight.

Is the whole thing up?

I didn’t look into it in depth but I know the next episode was there.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: lonestar on September 25, 2021, 10:38:28 PM
Through the first episode, it's really, really a beautiful production. Lots to unpack, but based on the source material, that doesn't surprise me.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: abydos on September 26, 2021, 11:27:17 AM
It's been over 10 years since I last read the books but I didn't recognize or remember much of what I saw based on the books. It seemed like they took the concepts and made it actiony with a new protagonist? Am I totally off or?
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: lonestar on September 26, 2021, 02:04:20 PM
It's been over 10 years since I last read the books but I didn't recognize or remember much of what I saw based on the books. It seemed like they took the concepts and made it actiony with a new protagonist? Am I totally off or?

Been 25 years since I read them, so I couldn't tell you. But it'd make sense to diversify from the text, if I remember correctly, the book read like the Silmarillion.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: MinistroRaven on September 26, 2021, 02:20:05 PM
Watched the first episode.....pretty solid. It really jumps right into it so the first few minutes took me a bit to understand what was going on. I was too tired to watch Ep. 2.....probably watch tonight.

Is the whole thing up?

No, I just finished the first 2 eps. The 3rd will premiere October 1st.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: abydos on September 27, 2021, 02:20:43 AM
I'll definitely not watch until the whole thing is up. If the show is good and anything like that books, it will be best to watch it in its entirety instead of one episode at a time with some cliffhanger at the end and wait one or more weeks until the next fix.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: lonestar on September 27, 2021, 08:43:11 AM
It's been over 10 years since I last read the books but I didn't recognize or remember much of what I saw based on the books. It seemed like they took the concepts and made it actiony with a new protagonist? Am I totally off or?

Been 25 years since I read them, so I couldn't tell you. But it'd make sense to diversify from the text, if I remember correctly, the book read like the Silmarillion.

Just read a piece talking about how they had to diversify from the books (opinion piece, not from the studio) since the initial book was 5 shorts spanning 5 centuries with completely unrelated characters. I think it's smart to approach it from the point of taking a slice of the stories and expanding them. Also seems they're bringing the robots into it with the references to the robot wars. As long as the production stays at the level it is, I'm all in.


Also Lee Pace is such a good choice for the emperor, he's naturally comes across as such a posh douche.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on October 03, 2021, 04:17:42 AM
Damn the visual art and aesthetic of the show is just superb! When that elevator dropped I wish I saw that on a big screen, that was epic.

Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 03, 2021, 05:24:20 AM
This show is really good. All caught up.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: lonestar on October 03, 2021, 07:55:15 AM
Damn the visual art and aesthetic of the show is just superb! When that elevator dropped I wish I saw that on a big screen, that was epic.

For reals, such an intense scene. Gotta watch the third episode again, I was tired as fuck and missed a lot.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: The Realm on October 03, 2021, 07:20:29 PM
I think the third episode asked a lot from the audience. The Empire scenes were beautiful and really well done but the second half felt very disjointed and overall fairly unconnected with what has already happened. Hopefully the next episode will provide some stronger narrative connection.

Really enjoying the show though.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 03, 2021, 08:50:49 AM
I'm really digging this show. I think it's been excellent.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on November 03, 2021, 08:56:49 AM
I will wait till the season is in the books.  Probably my favorite book series of all time.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: WilliamMunny on November 03, 2021, 09:09:28 AM
I'm really digging this show. I think it's been excellent.

Agreed...like most Apple Plus Series, it's far exceeding my expectations.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 03, 2021, 10:02:15 AM
I'm really digging this show. I think it's been excellent.

Agreed...like most Apple Plus Series, it's far exceeding my expectations.

I'm also enjoying 'Invasion' and I like(d) the first two seasons of 'See'. All have been high quality production and.....with Invasion and Foundation especially the storytelling method/delivery is a break from the norm. 'See' was pretty straight forward but I do like the way the storyline and characters keep progressing and don't get stale.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on November 03, 2021, 10:41:44 AM
I'm really digging this show. I think it's been excellent.

Agreed...like most Apple Plus Series, it's far exceeding my expectations.

I'm also enjoying 'Invasion' and I like(d) the first two seasons of 'See'. All have been high quality production and.....with Invasion and Foundation especially the storytelling method/delivery is a break from the norm. 'See' was pretty straight forward but I do like the way the storyline and characters keep progressing and don't get stale.
Yea i'm watching Foundation and Invasion right now and they're excellent so far. I've also seen For All Mankind and The Mosquito Coast and enjoyed them alot so apple is delivering the goods. I did start See but started another show so I put that on hold. So much to catch up on these days.

I tried Ted Lasso and Schmigadoon but those wasn't for me.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 09, 2021, 10:03:33 AM
This last episode was awesome.....just really good stuff going on in this show. I'm extremely bummed there are only two episodes remaining.....I wish there were 50 more.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: lonestar on November 09, 2021, 10:17:18 AM
I'm up to date, but I seriously need to re-watch it. I usually catch it after work Friday and my mind wanders, so I'm a bit lost on the many storylines.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 19, 2021, 08:46:51 PM
DUDE! What a freaking finale! This show is great. I wish there were more episodes dang it  >:(
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on November 20, 2021, 08:59:38 AM
Cool finale and the production value has been top notch on this show!
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: DragonAttack on March 22, 2022, 12:53:28 PM
My wife and I finished this about a month ago.  I read the trilogy back in the early 80s, and then the follow ups.

So impressed with the visuals.  So excited to see what they would do with this.

I know I've gotten older, but for the life of me I didn't recall anything about the Invictus.  Geez, silly me, the writers of the show made that whole thread up :tdwn

The last couple of episodes finally got moving and wrapped some things up (how tiresome that the 'cat fight' had become).  But if they plan on spreading this out over seven more years, they need some new writing and direction. 
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 21, 2023, 09:01:47 AM
S2....this Summer! Can't wait! this show is SO Good!


https://youtu.be/IGWT-t7AS74
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: abydos on April 21, 2023, 09:03:37 AM
I had forgotten about it. The show was good, even though it didn't seem to match the source material very much. Still, they made something really cool based on it, definitely looking forward to it now.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: cramx3 on July 20, 2023, 02:42:07 PM
Just started watching this show.  3 episodes in.  I was quite confused with the storyline to start and both my gf and I were a bit unsure to continue after the first episode but I was intrigued.  Now things make sense with the time line jumps so far that I'm able to enjoy and get real interested in where the story may be headed and learning more about these creepy Cleons.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: Lonk on July 20, 2023, 02:53:02 PM
I had this show on my to watch list for a while now and still haven't. Maybe I'll start it this weekend.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 20, 2023, 05:33:39 PM
It’s a pretty cool show. New season has started.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: abydos on July 21, 2023, 12:57:14 AM
I had forgotten about the show until I stumbled upon the new season. Empire is clearly the best part of the show.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 21, 2023, 08:16:07 AM
I had forgotten about the show until I stumbled upon the new season. Empire is clearly the best part of the show.

It's a fascinating scenario. And, that role has been cast perfectly.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: cramx3 on July 24, 2023, 10:56:05 AM
Finished season 1 last night, great ending.  We may start season 2 tonight, but I guess since it's currently airing, there's not a huge rush to start, but I'm hooked.

I'm really digging this show. I think it's been excellent.

Agreed...like most Apple Plus Series, it's far exceeding my expectations.

I'm also enjoying 'Invasion' and I like(d) the first two seasons of 'See'. All have been high quality production and.....with Invasion and Foundation especially the storytelling method/delivery is a break from the norm. 'See' was pretty straight forward but I do like the way the storyline and characters keep progressing and don't get stale.
Yea i'm watching Foundation and Invasion right now and they're excellent so far. I've also seen For All Mankind and The Mosquito Coast and enjoyed them alot so apple is delivering the goods. I did start See but started another show so I put that on hold. So much to catch up on these days.

I tried Ted Lasso and Schmigadoon but those wasn't for me.

I enjoyed Schmigadoon season 1, but season 2 just feels cheap to me.  I think that was a one season show for me for the uniqueness of it, doing it again just has me uninterested.  Ted Lasso for all it's praises just didn't click for me at all besides a joke here and there that was funny. 

I may have to check out Invasion then?  I feel like so far, the sci-fi stuff on Apple has been good (Foundation and Silo) but everything else so far has been meh to me. 
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 24, 2023, 11:12:21 AM
Invasion was really well done. A very neat way of telling simultaneous stories…..keeping you intrigued with the ‘invaders’ without having to dedicate non stop action and screen time to them. The casting is great as every actor really does their job and gets you emotionally invested in them.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 07, 2023, 09:56:03 AM
Really enjoying this second season.....can't believe there are only two episodes left. It's went quick.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: cramx3 on September 18, 2023, 09:19:21 AM
Finished last night.  Solid season.  Now I need to watch some recap videos on youtube because there's so much detail that I miss in every episode.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 18, 2023, 09:39:48 AM
It is a pretty nuanced and detailed series……the long layover between seasons didn’t help at all. I may binge them both back to back in a few months.

That being said…..I love the show. It’s really well done….the acting, characters, settings…..all good stuff. Bummed it’s over now and another long wait ahead.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: cramx3 on September 18, 2023, 09:41:35 AM
Yeah, the long wait really sucks.  All these seasons ending now leave a big question mark as to when we will get to see them again.  The last couple episodes of this season were wild though.  So much unfolded for us viewers.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: WilliamMunny on September 18, 2023, 10:18:59 AM
According to a recent interview I listened to over the weekend with Goyer, while a 3rd season is fully mapped out, they have yet to get the official 'green light' from Apple.

I would massively bummed if this show doesn't get the proper run it deserves, but after everything that went down with The Expanse, I will hold out hope that even if Apple passes, we won't wind up with another Firefly.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 18, 2023, 10:58:58 AM
According to a recent interview I listened to over the weekend with Goyer, while a 3rd season is fully mapped out, they have yet to get the official 'green light' from Apple.

I would massively bummed if this show doesn't get the proper run it deserves, but after everything that went down with The Expanse, I will hold out hope that even if Apple passes, we won't wind up with another Firefly.

I can’t imagine this wouldn’t be re-upped by Apple. It seems to be pretty popular. But, who knows these days?

It would be crushing for this not to get its full due.
Title: Re: Foundation on Apple TV
Post by: WilliamMunny on September 18, 2023, 12:07:44 PM
According to a recent interview I listened to over the weekend with Goyer, while a 3rd season is fully mapped out, they have yet to get the official 'green light' from Apple.

I would massively bummed if this show doesn't get the proper run it deserves, but after everything that went down with The Expanse, I will hold out hope that even if Apple passes, we won't wind up with another Firefly.

I can’t imagine this wouldn’t be re-upped by Apple. It seems to be pretty popular. But, who knows these days?

It would be crushing for this not to get its full due.

I feel the same way, but you are absolutely correct when you say 'who knows?'

I can't imagine how much easier it would be for the creative team if Apple (or whoever) would guarantee a show like this 3 or 4 seasons. I mean, the 'wait and see' model is fine for sit-coms, but a show like this needs time to breath and develop, and sadly, the streaming platforms are just not in the business of being patient.