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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: WildRanger on August 16, 2021, 11:17:59 AM
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Which songs would you name?
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Prince
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Haha, Prince.
For me, "Tomorrow Never Knows", by the Beatles.
Sober by Tool (the video gave me a nightmare, no shit)
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Lateralus immediately springs to mind.
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Lateralus immediately springs to mind.
The whole album has a fantastic vibe to it.
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Ultravox - Vienna
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Agalloch - Falling Snow
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Blur - The Outsider. Sounds like a twisted horror movie. Very different for them.
https://youtu.be/pM575pB7iyw
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Diablo Swing Orchestra - Guerilla Laments
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Not totally sure about “cannot be replicated,” but I’ll go with:
King Crimson - Waiting Man
The Clientele - Monday’s Rain
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The Smashing Pumpkins - 1979. The new-wavey, shoegazey vibe plus Corgan's voice makes for the defining alternative song of the 90's imo.
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The Smashing Pumpkins - 1979. The new-wavey, shoegazey vibe plus Corgan's voice makes for the defining alternative song of the 90's imo.
Great call. As soon as I hear it it takes be back to my teenage years. Such a distinct vibe and atmosphere.
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Led Zeppelin-Down By The Seaside
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Wicked Game - Chris Isaac.
His voice aches with pain. The guitar aches with pain. The song aches with pain.
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I feel like most vibes can be replicated.
I was in a bunch of local bands in the 2000's and we (whichever band) played tons of shows with endless bands that tried and sounded exactly like Tool. Not nearly as good, but definitely able to replicate the vibe and atmosphere.
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I feel like most vibes can be replicated.
I was in a bunch of local bands in the 2000's and we (whichever band) played tons of shows with endless bands that tried and sounded exactly like Tool. Not nearly as good, but definitely able to replicate the vibe and atmosphere.
Who was first with the vibe should be a positive.
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I feel like most vibes can be replicated.
I was in a bunch of local bands in the 2000's and we (whichever band) played tons of shows with endless bands that tried and sounded exactly like Tool. Not nearly as good, but definitely able to replicate the vibe and atmosphere.
Who was first with the vibe should be a positive.
Oh totally. The bands I saw locally were awful. They were the Guchy bags of bands. But the question still stipulated that the vibe can't be replicated. I honestly can't think of any vibe that can't be replicated, or at least imitated really well.
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Wicked Game - Chris Isaac.
His voice aches with pain. The guitar aches with pain. The song aches with pain.
Always loved this song.
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Wicked Game - Chris Isaac.
His voice aches with pain. The guitar aches with pain. The song aches with pain.
I’ll never forget the first time I heard this song. I was working at a strip club in Spokane Washington as a DJ in 1991ish. (These were my wild years before I became a Christian)
One of the girls brought the cassette tape in all queued up and ready to play. We got five seconds in, and I was convinced that our tape deck was eating her cassette so I shut it off. I was later told in a four letter word tirade of outstanding proportions that the song was supposed to sound like that.
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I have to mention Type O Negative - Love You to Death.
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Wicked Game - Chris Isaac.
His voice aches with pain. The guitar aches with pain. The song aches with pain.
Also makes my ears ache with pain.
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Wicked Game - Chris Isaac.
His voice aches with pain. The guitar aches with pain. The song aches with pain.
Also makes my ears ache with pain.
To be honest I could never stand that song.
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Well you two are silly then.
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Yes - Awaken
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I'm not sure exactly what the OP is going for, here, but I will say that live versions of "Pull Me Under" never seem to capture the vibe of the studio version, IMO.
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Led Zeppelin-Down By The Seaside
That reminds me: Led Zeppelin, "In The Light"
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Wicked Game - Chris Isaac.
His voice aches with pain. The guitar aches with pain. The song aches with pain.
Also makes my ears ache with pain.
I read that and thought of TAC immediately. :)
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Tesseract's Altered State. I can't think of another album which has that combination of Ashe's almost boyband vocals with those djenty riffs
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Well you two are silly then.
I know! ;D
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Wicked Game - Chris Isaac.
His voice aches with pain. The guitar aches with pain. The song aches with pain.
Also makes my ears ache with pain.
I read that and thought of TAC immediately. :)
Are you saying I'm slowly morphing into Tim? :lol
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Wicked Game - Chris Isaac.
His voice aches with pain. The guitar aches with pain. The song aches with pain.
Also makes my ears ache with pain.
:lol :lol
Can't say I disagree, and all the "aches with pain" stuff is kinda odd, given that the song is about having a strong attraction to a woman who called to hook up with Isaak.
Random: the song plays while Ross and Rachel have sex for the first time on the TV show Friends. In a later episode, Isaak made a guest appearance and had a short tryst with Phoebe. At the end of the episode, she was teaching him the lyrics to her silly song "Smelly Cat," and he sang along with his trademark falsetto, to which she responds by asking if he didn't want to use a more manly voice.
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Wicked Game - Chris Isaac.
His voice aches with pain. The guitar aches with pain. The song aches with pain.
Also makes my ears ache with pain.
:lol :lol
Can't say I disagree, and all the "aches with pain" stuff is kinda odd, given that the song is about having a strong attraction to a woman who called to hook up with Isaak.
Random: the song plays while Ross and Rachel have sex for the first time on the TV show Friends. In a later episode, Isaak made a guest appearance and had a short tryst with Phoebe. At the end of the episode, she was teaching him the lyrics to her silly song "Smelly Cat," and he sang along with his trademark falsetto, to which she responds by asking if he didn't want to use a more manly voice.
No pain in loving someone who doesn't love you back like you do? I feel like you need to re read the lyrics on this song.
Wicked Game - Chris Isaac.
His voice aches with pain. The guitar aches with pain. The song aches with pain.
Also makes my ears ache with pain.
I read that and thought of TAC immediately. :)
Are you saying I'm slowly morphing into Tim? :lol
Man that's a low blow. :lol
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I'm not sure exactly what the OP is going for, here, but I will say that live versions of "Pull Me Under" never seem to capture the vibe of the studio version, IMO.
I have further thoughts on the question in the OP that I'll try to share in the next few days, but I wanted to say now that I really agree with this sentiment.
There's something about the chorus specifically, to me. That chorus grabbed me the very first time I heard the song because it sounded... I don't know quite how to capture it. Almost choral, with this high, clean line repeated a three times. There's something magical about that sound that drew me in right away. And that vibe just can't be replicated live with only one singer. Even if it could... the way James sings it live is fine, but it just doesn't capture that magic vibe. Pre-accident, he puts too much grit on it, and post, he can't sustain those high clean notes in the same easy way he does on IAW. Live it has a different vibe, which is decent, but it's not the magic vibe of the studio version.
I think the chorus of The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun could have had a vibe somewhat like this if it was sung by a chorus. But not quite the same.
Honestly, all of Images and Words would almost be a good answer to me for this thread. There's something about the way that album was written, performed and produced that makes it feel almost ethereal while still having tons of energy. It feels like being in another world, a beautiful one that's wintery yet full of light. Surrounded is the paradigm of this sound, but every song has it. As much flack as DT album art sometimes gets, I think the artwork is close to the unique vibe I feel on this album, but it's still difficult to describe.
Awake has its own distinct vibe for me, too, but it's not as distinctive as IAW. It's in another world, too, but one that's a little closer to ordinary life. It's an icier world with a sense of anxiety where the world of IAW has a sense of deliverance.
The other DT albums don't have a unique vibe like this for me, although that's not to say they aren't different from each other and don't have unique vibes at times.
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Wanted Dead Or Alive - Bon Jovi
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I think a lot of dredg songs have a unique vibes. Sanzen is a perfect example. The way the guitar is layered gives it such and interesting atmosphere.
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On second thought, I'd have to say Bohemian Rhapsody. Never heard a song have a similar vibe.
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On second thought, I'd have to say Bohemian Rhapsody. Never heard a song have a similar vibe.
I always preferred Innuendo to Bo Rhap. SImilar sort of structure.
Plus Paranoid Android used to get called the prog rock Bo Rhap.
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On second thought, I'd have to say Bohemian Rhapsody. Never heard a song have a similar vibe.
I always preferred Innuendo to Bo Rhap. SImilar sort of structure.
Plus Paranoid Android used to get called the prog rock Bo Rhap.
Paranoid Android is to Bo Rhap what a single unamplified kazoo is to the Grateful Dead's 1974 Wall of Sound.
For the uninitiated:
(https://i.imgur.com/27TukZV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kz1OgID.jpg)
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I'm not sure exactly what the OP is going for, here, but I will say that live versions of "Pull Me Under" never seem to capture the vibe of the studio version, IMO.
I have further thoughts on the question in the OP that I'll try to share in the next few days, but I wanted to say now that I really agree with this sentiment.
There's something about the chorus specifically, to me. That chorus grabbed me the very first time I heard the song because it sounded... I don't know quite how to capture it. Almost choral, with this high, clean line repeated a three times. There's something magical about that sound that drew me in right away. And that vibe just can't be replicated live with only one singer. Even if it could... the way James sings it live is fine, but it just doesn't capture that magic vibe. Pre-accident, he puts too much grit on it, and post, he can't sustain those high clean notes in the same easy way he does on IAW. Live it has a different vibe, which is decent, but it's not the magic vibe of the studio version.
I think the chorus of The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun could have had a vibe somewhat like this if it was sung by a chorus. But not quite the same.
Honestly, all of Images and Words would almost be a good answer to me for this thread. There's something about the way that album was written, performed and produced that makes it feel almost ethereal while still having tons of energy. It feels like being in another world, a beautiful one that's wintery yet full of light. Surrounded is the paradigm of this sound, but every song has it. As much flack as DT album art sometimes gets, I think the artwork is close to the unique vibe I feel on this album, but it's still difficult to describe.
Awake has its own distinct vibe for me, too, but it's not as distinctive as IAW. It's in another world, too, but one that's a little closer to ordinary life. It's an icier world with a sense of anxiety where the world of IAW has a sense of deliverance.
The other DT albums don't have a unique vibe like this for me, although that's not to say they aren't different from each other and don't have unique vibes at times.
I hadn’t considered that the OP might be asking about “recreated live,” but I definitely agree on Images and Words being something that’s almost impossible to pull off live (in terms of the specific vibe on the album that is).
I also never thought Marillion’s Brave and Marbles material translated well live. Something about the Dave Meegan production and mix that didn’t quite translate to the stage.
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I am immediately thinking about California Dreaming with The Mamas and Papas. Its always been a strange vibe to that song and no cover manages to capture that. The song is just so good because it has this eery, moody feeling.
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Yes to Chris Isaak and M&P
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I hadn’t considered that the OP might be asking about “recreated live,” but I definitely agree on Images and Words being something that’s almost impossible to pull off live (in terms of the specific vibe on the album that is).
Sometimes on these topics you just have to range wildly. ;)
But seriously, I think being hard to recreate live is a good indicator of a song having a unique vibe, although it's not true in every case of that. A live performance is not as capable of faithfully presenting a specific nuance in the sound or performance as a studio recording. And a band's live performances tend to render different songs from across their career into a more homogenous-type sound. Listen to Live at Luna Park, for example, and you'll hear songs from Awake, Systematic Chaos, Octavarium and Images and Words, albums that occupy fairly distinct sonic spaces, all being played over the same basic setup with not a lot of variation in things like guitar/bass/drum sound, and featuring James's one-take live performance on two particular nights of a tour years or even decades after those songs were first written and recorded. The main thing that remains distinct is the songwriting. And if the unique vibe primarily came out of the songwriting, it'll still be there. But to the extent that the unique vibe was in the other elements, it won't show up. (I think the unique vibe on IAW comes partly out of songwriting, and that element of the vibe is still present in live versions, but other parts of the vibe come from factors like performance and production, and those don't tend to come across in live versions.)
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Wicked Game - Chris Isaac.
Random: the song plays while Ross and Rachel have sex for the first time on the TV show Friends. In a later episode, Isaak made a guest appearance and had a short tryst with Phoebe. At the end of the episode, she was teaching him the lyrics to her silly song "Smelly Cat," and he sang along with his trademark falsetto, to which she responds by asking if he didn't want to use a more manly voice.
That was actually the first thing I thought of, and will always think of, when this song enters my mind. I liked it when it hit. Can't say I know if I have ever heard anything else he's done.
When I think of a song aching with pain, I go straight to Linda Rondstadt's Long, Long Time, and Nazareth's Love Hurts.
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The Beach Boys 'Good Vibrations'
[lock thread ;)]
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The Beatles - Blackbird
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Wicked Game - Chris Isaac.
Random: the song plays while Ross and Rachel have sex for the first time on the TV show Friends. In a later episode, Isaak made a guest appearance and had a short tryst with Phoebe. At the end of the episode, she was teaching him the lyrics to her silly song "Smelly Cat," and he sang along with his trademark falsetto, to which she responds by asking if he didn't want to use a more manly voice.
That was actually the first thing I thought of, and will always think of, when this song enters my mind. I liked it when it hit. Can't say I know if I have ever heard anything else he's done.
When I think of a song aching with pain, I go straight to Linda Rondstadt's Long, Long Time, and Nazareth's Love Hurts.
Aching with pain: "He Stopped Loving Her Today" by George Jones. I cry like a baby when I hear that.
Melancholy heartbreak: "Drops Of Jupiter" by Train. I also cry like a baby when I hear that (but for different reasons).
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Wicked Game - Chris Isaac.
Random: the song plays while Ross and Rachel have sex for the first time on the TV show Friends. In a later episode, Isaak made a guest appearance and had a short tryst with Phoebe. At the end of the episode, she was teaching him the lyrics to her silly song "Smelly Cat," and he sang along with his trademark falsetto, to which she responds by asking if he didn't want to use a more manly voice.
That was actually the first thing I thought of, and will always think of, when this song enters my mind. I liked it when it hit. Can't say I know if I have ever heard anything else he's done.
When I think of a song aching with pain, I go straight to Linda Rondstadt's Long, Long Time, and Nazareth's Love Hurts.
Aching with pain: "He Stopped Loving Her Today" by George Jones. I cry like a baby when I hear that.
Melancholy heartbreak: "Drops Of Jupiter" by Train. I also cry like a baby when I hear that (but for different reasons).
Aching with pain:
The Blue Nile - Family Life
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfnr8eYWOig
Paul Buchanan’s voice breaks during the song.
Wish Me Well is another:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FbujOtX4zuk
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Pretty much anything by Slowdive. Many try but there's no replicating their magic.
https://youtu.be/VRtnS0MHq_A
https://youtu.be/xBHHQgA7AeQ
https://youtu.be/Jr1xv1c_kqo
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KrotchRaut - Reapercution
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Wicked Game - Chris Isaac.
His voice aches with pain. The guitar aches with pain. The song aches with pain.
Also makes my ears ache with pain.
:lol :lol
Can't say I disagree, and all the "aches with pain" stuff is kinda odd, given that the song is about having a strong attraction to a woman who called to hook up with Isaak.
My hot take: I don't find a woman in Isaak's music video attractive. ;D
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I think you have a concussion WildRanger.
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I was listening to Kaki King's album Glow and that whole album has a vibe that would be really difficult to replicate. The guitars she uses on the album have a very distinct sound.
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Jeff Buckley - Hallelujah
The "airiness" of his version, and his vocals just make it so unique.
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Wicked Game - Chris Isaac.
His voice aches with pain. The guitar aches with pain. The song aches with pain.
Also makes my ears ache with pain.
:lol :lol
Can't say I disagree, and all the "aches with pain" stuff is kinda odd, given that the song is about having a strong attraction to a woman who called to hook up with Isaak.
My hot take: I don't find a woman in Isaak's music video attractive. ;D
Helena Christensen. She's no Cindy Crawford ( :tup), but she's no slouch either.
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No pain in loving someone who doesn't love you back like you do? I feel like you need to re read the lyrics on this song.
Quoth the author: "It's about four in the morning, and somebody calling and saying I'm coming over to your house and I thought right after I said okay, I thought I should have never allowed this person to come over to my house. I know what's going to happen. And I wrote the song between the time I got off the phone and the person came over to visit. It was just about what happens when you have a strong attraction to people that aren't necessarily good for you. I think it hit a nerve because I think a lot of us have a strong attraction to people that aren't necessarily good for us." https://www.rockhall.com/chris-isaak
It's not about loving someone who doesn't love you back. It's about having the hots for someone who also has the hots for you but isn't good for you.
My hot take: I don't find a woman in Isaak's music video attractive. ;D
I tend not to be terribly attracted to super models because, as a general rule, they tend to be incredibly gaunt.
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Hey, most people can take lyrics and make it into what they think. Lot's of lyricists want that. Reading the lyrics you would never get that it was about a booty call that he unsure of.
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KrotchRaut - Reapercution
Gonna have to agree with this one.
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Led Zeppelin-Down By The Seaside
That reminds me: Led Zeppelin, "In The Light"
Amazing. The almost instantaneous thought that came to me after reading the thread title was Ten Years Gone. I don't think it's any coincidence all three of these songs are from Physical Graffiti. The entire album has that kind of vibe.