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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: XJDenton on June 26, 2021, 02:15:58 PM
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Old thread here:
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=49469.0
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1st to be slightly irritated, vexed, indignant and overall grumpy.
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1st to be slightly irritated, vexed, indignant and overall grumpy.
I’m exasperated that we needed a new thread! :getoffmylawn:
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Is exasperated the same as irritated? I'm not sure...
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Is exasperated the same as irritated? I'm not sure...
You’re exasperating! :lol
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Mobile phones and driving (at least here in FL ) will eventually kill me. Every day is a near miss. I may have to move just because of the inherent danger. No shit. It's brutal.
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Mobile phones and driving (at least here in FL ) will eventually kill me. Every day is a near miss. I may have to move just because of the inherent danger. No shit. It's brutal.
I'm an amazing multi-tasker, I can do a crap load of things at a time and switch between them seamlessly. I can do it at work, at home like cooking different meals/run errands/watch the kids/etc... fact is I can do all of it. But when I'm driving, I don't look at my phone at all. I have this stand (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FXSU43W/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1) in my car and I load the playlist, load the directions and will only use it when stopped. I've used voice-activated calling and that works. I just cannot imagine the people that text and drive or do things on their phone while driving.
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Is exasperated the same as irritated? I'm not sure...
You’re exasperating! :lol
That's irritating.
:)
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Mobile phones and driving (at least here in FL ) will eventually kill me. Every day is a near miss. I may have to move just because of the inherent danger. No shit. It's brutal.
Up here, too, though. You know I have a thing about slow drivers in the left hand lane; it's about 50-50 odds that they are surfing the net or yapping on the phone while doing it.
As some of you may know from the COVID threads and in P/R, I am very much NOT a person that confronts others for their rudeness or inappropriateness - I tend my own garden - this is the exception that proves me human. I have no problem laying on the horn and pointing to the phone as I zoom past them on the right. Unless my wife is in the car, because it embarrasses her. :)
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Mobile phones and driving (at least here in FL ) will eventually kill me. Every day is a near miss. I may have to move just because of the inherent danger. No shit. It's brutal.
I had one today where I was turning left into two left lanes and I took the closest one because down the road it goes straight instead of making another left onto a highway and the lane was a little backed up but enough to fit my car. Well the person behind me was also going left and looking in the rear view mirror she also thought I was going into the furthest left lane (which had less cars) and when I didn't she clearly whipped her phone down and had a panicked look on her face as she swerved hard left around me to get into the turning lane. She also made an expression like I was an asshole for not chosing the far left lane (which leads to the left turn down the road) since it had less cars in it. Bad driving is just abundant around where I am.
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Pisses me off that we're on v3 of this and the happy thread barely has over 20 pages.
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Is exasperated the same as irritated? I'm not sure...
You’re exasperating! :lol
That's irritating.
:)
Touche my good friend. :tup
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Pisses me off that we're on v3 of this and the happy thread barely has over 20 pages.
Yeah, let's all try to do something about that.
JFC... when trying to make a post there, I somehow clicked the motorcycle thread. I found it kinda odd that all the recent posts making people happy were about motorcycles, but whatever. I don't ride, and have no need for that thread - but now it'll show up in my 'new replies to your posts' feed. :lolpalm:
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That is more than irritating to me. What a fucking stupid idea and I can't believe not enough people complained yet to have this shit removed.
YES.
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"Challenges". I've been watching a lot of "America's Funniest Home Videos" - don't judge me; I'm under a lot of stress right now and it's a nice, mindless, apolitical diversion that I find, generally, HILARIOUS. It seems every episode has some video of a "Challenge". "Challenge" - read: TORTURE - your kids with candy as you leave the room and say "don't touch it!", only to laugh when your morally bankrupt four year old eats the candy anyways. "Challenge" someone to simply display ordinary physics which you should have learned in middle school by flipping a half-filled water bottle and marveling when it does exactly what that physics says it was going to do.
I can think of 100 things that we can "challenge" each other to do that would actually move the needle and make the world a better place (and yes, still have fun, and still get laughs).
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Carpal tunnel. Been bothering me since December in my right hand and arm, and even wearing the brace at night lately doesn't seem to be helping. Anyone deal with this and have any other magic solutions? My trust in doctors has disintegrated in the last few years (especially after this one diagnosed me with carpal tunnel and his advice has made zero difference).
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Carpal tunnel. Been bothering me since December in my right hand and arm, and even wearing the brace at night lately doesn't seem to be helping. Anyone deal with this and have any other magic solutions? My trust in doctors has disintegrated in the last few years (especially after this one diagnosed me with carpal tunnel and his advice has made zero difference).
Use the other hand.
C'mon! That's funny!!!
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Carpal tunnel. Been bothering me since December in my right hand and arm, and even wearing the brace at night lately doesn't seem to be helping. Anyone deal with this and have any other magic solutions? My trust in doctors has disintegrated in the last few years (especially after this one diagnosed me with carpal tunnel and his advice has made zero difference).
Use the other hand.
C'mon! That's funny!!!
*smacks you with the left hand* (because I can now get more momentum with that one)
:P :P
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Carpal tunnel. Been bothering me since December in my right hand and arm, and even wearing the brace at night lately doesn't seem to be helping. Anyone deal with this and have any other magic solutions? My trust in doctors has disintegrated in the last few years (especially after this one diagnosed me with carpal tunnel and his advice has made zero difference).
Use the other hand.
C'mon! That's funny!!!
Nah, it's just strange.
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Not sure which is more exasperating. That there is a such a thing as a hard boiled egg slicer, or the fact that we own one. My wife spent 5 minutes tonight looking for ours. I told her should could have used a knife and sliced hundreds of eggs in the time it took to find it.
Basically all very specific kitchen gadgets that do not solve a need. Who first thought that a knife just wasn't good enough to cut up a hard boiled egg?
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Not sure which is more exasperating. That there is a such a thing as a hard boiled egg slicer, or the fact that we own one. My wife spent 5 minutes tonight looking for ours. I told her should could have used a knife and sliced hundreds of eggs in the time it took to find it.
Basically all very specific kitchen gadgets that do not solve a need. Who first thought that a knife just wasn't good enough to cut up a hard boiled egg?
Who are you? Alton Brown? Haha. :) :) He's got a permanent hair across his ass about "unitaskers" as he calls them.
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Carpal tunnel. Been bothering me since December in my right hand and arm, and even wearing the brace at night lately doesn't seem to be helping. Anyone deal with this and have any other magic solutions? My trust in doctors has disintegrated in the last few years (especially after this one diagnosed me with carpal tunnel and his advice has made zero difference).
I believe that carpal tunnel and many other similar ailments may be psychosomatic in a great number of instances. Take a look at the clinical observations of Joseph Sarno, I don't agree with everything he says mind you but I think he was on the something.
Might sound like a bunch of hullabaloo but considering some hullabaloo before you decide to pay an exorbitant amount to have your wrist cut open is a cheap investment imo
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Carpal tunnel. Been bothering me since December in my right hand and arm, and even wearing the brace at night lately doesn't seem to be helping. Anyone deal with this and have any other magic solutions? My trust in doctors has disintegrated in the last few years (especially after this one diagnosed me with carpal tunnel and his advice has made zero difference).
I believe that carpal tunnel and many other similar ailments may be psychosomatic in a great number of instances. Take a look at the clinical observations of Joseph Sarno, I don't agree with everything he says mind you but I think he was on the something.
Might sound like a bunch of hullabaloo but considering some hullabaloo before you decide to pay an exorbitant amount to have your wrist cut open is a cheap investment imo
Thanks for the reply!! :tup :tup
I appreciate that advice as well. I am not even close to the point of thinking I need surgery, but my frustration level with this is still rising by the week. I will check out that Joseph Sarno stuff.
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Kev and hullaballoo. A perfect match. :D
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Don't make my elbow you with my good arm. :P
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Carpal tunnel. Been bothering me since December in my right hand and arm, and even wearing the brace at night lately doesn't seem to be helping. Anyone deal with this and have any other magic solutions? My trust in doctors has disintegrated in the last few years (especially after this one diagnosed me with carpal tunnel and his advice has made zero difference).
I believe that carpal tunnel and many other similar ailments may be psychosomatic in a great number of instances. Take a look at the clinical observations of Joseph Sarno, I don't agree with everything he says mind you but I think he was on the something.
Might sound like a bunch of hullabaloo but considering some hullabaloo before you decide to pay an exorbitant amount to have your wrist cut open is a cheap investment imo
Thanks for the reply!! :tup :tup
I appreciate that advice as well. I am not even close to the point of thinking I need surgery, but my frustration level with this is still rising by the week. I will check out that Joseph Sarno stuff.
No worries. I had similar issues with my right arm and wrist and they improved significantly when I started paying more attention to my mental health and some of the stresses that I might have connected to those parts of my body. I read his book "the mind body prescription" and while it was pretty dry at times I felt my symptoms improve almost immediately while I was reading it.
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When my wife takes us to antique stores. I know that one person's trash is another person's treasure. But I don't get the fascination she, and so many other people, seem to have with antique stores. She hardly ever buys anything, and when she does it is some overpriced piece of junk I don't want in my house.
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Sometimes trash is trash. My in laws just moved and dumped 6 boxes of crap at our house that my wife "was going to want and had to have".
1 box was filled with old digital cameras, 3.5 floppy discs and about 4 species of long outdated video cams. WTF?! Another box had old broken kitchen gadgets like weird peelers and plastic novelty ice cube trays. Dont forget the broken air fryer.
Maybe i will seal back up the boxes and ship them to their new house in Florida with a note that says" no thank you. "
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When my wife takes us to antique stores. I know that one person's trash is another person's treasure. But I don't get the fascination she, and so many other people, seem to have with antique stores. She hardly ever buys anything, and when she does it is some overpriced piece of junk I don't want in my house.
I feel your pain.
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Sometimes trash is trash. My in laws just moved and dumped 6 boxes of crap at our house
We have like 3 dining room tables in our basement from when my MiL moved and my stepson bought a new one. And my wife says the same thing..."well, someone might want it..". I can fucking tell you someone that does NOT want it!
And she is not a hoarder, but when I go to throw away a household item, she says the same thing.."Don't throw it away we can donate that.." WTF?
I tell her The Salvation Army is not a dump.
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When my wife takes us to antique stores. I know that one person's trash is another person's treasure. But I don't get the fascination she, and so many other people, seem to have with antique stores. She hardly ever buys anything, and when she does it is some overpriced piece of junk I don't want in my house.
Since my main job is seasonal and it finishes from Nov - Mar - I have to find other work in that time. I ended up getting paid to sort out a charity shop that was going to open for
the boss of my previous job. I left my job on pretty good terms so they helped me out. But yeah she is in her 70s and is a typical charity (thrift) shop type person.
Won't throw anything away in case that magic someone walks in one day and wants to pay £2 for it ;D ;D
There were boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes of books piled up to the ceiling - and it was my job to sort the good from the crap. But even the crap she was like
" that might be worth something one day to one person who might end up in here by magic and pay a fortune !! "
Yes. MAYBE. But PROBABLY NOT as it's falling to bits has no spine and has mould on it. :lolpalm:
I don't get ornaments and trinkets. It's just a thing that sits on your mantlepiece doing fuck all. :biggrin:
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OTOH I get all my jeans, Hoodies , jackets and tee shirts from charity shops and i've got SO MANY nice clothes for less than £5 an item :)
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Sometimes trash is trash. My in laws just moved and dumped 6 boxes of crap at our house
We have like 3 dining room tables in our basement from when my MiL moved and my stepson bought a new one. And my wife says the same thing..."well, someone might want it..". I can fucking tell you someone that does NOT want it!
And she is not a hoarder, but when I go to throw away a household item, she says the same thing.."Don't throw it away we can donate that.." WTF?
I tell her The Salvation Army is not a dump.
Must be a wife thing. I tend to 'over' keep things longer than we need them, but my wife is an absolute pro. We have a kids princess/castle bed that we had for jingle.daughter (she outgrew at like 7 or so) that we're keeping for when (if) we have grand-daughter(s), and can give it to them :lolpalm:. There's another dozen+ examples of that. Thankfully, we have a lot of storage space.
When we do the occasional 'purge', mrs.jingle is usually looking for ways to keep things. I'm often of the mindset 'when in doubt, throw it out'.
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I love fireworks just a much as the next guy, but if you're still lighting off mortars at 3:30 in the morning, you can go fuck yourself.
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I love fireworks just a much as the next guy, but if you're still lighting off mortars at 3:30 in the morning, you can go fuck yourself.
Agree. My old neighborhood they would start late may with a few a day, and go all out on July 4th. The streets usually looked orange the day after with the left over shells. Also, they found a way to make it more dangerous this year by combining explosives with flour.
https://abc7ny.com/fireworks-explosion-inwood-manhattan-illegal/10824315/
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Sometimes trash is trash. My in laws just moved and dumped 6 boxes of crap at our house
We have like 3 dining room tables in our basement from when my MiL moved and my stepson bought a new one. And my wife says the same thing..."well, someone might want it..". I can fucking tell you someone that does NOT want it!
And she is not a hoarder, but when I go to throw away a household item, she says the same thing.."Don't throw it away we can donate that.." WTF?
I tell her The Salvation Army is not a dump.
Must be a wife thing. I tend to 'over' keep things longer than we need them, but my wife is an absolute pro. We have a kids princess/castle bed that we had for jingle.daughter (she outgrew at like 7 or so) that we're keeping for when (if) we have grand-daughter(s), and can give it to them :lolpalm:. There's another dozen+ examples of that. Thankfully, we have a lot of storage space.
When we do the occasional 'purge', mrs.jingle is usually looking for ways to keep things. I'm often of the mindset 'when in doubt, throw it out'.
Exactly. Also if you're tidying up and you find something in a cupboard you forgot you had - chuck it.
I was tidying my flat once and I found a bag of clothes I had never sorted so i threw it away. I have enough clothes.
My Dad is a hoarder and has rooms / sheds filled to the brim with clutter. I couldnt do it. I can't relax if my house is a mess.
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work today. If it can go wrong it has today. One of those work days.
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work today. If it can go wrong it has today. One of those work days.
+100 Day after a holiday is always rough (we took Friday and yesterday). My wife and I both worked half-day on those days but didn't answer any calls, which we are paying for today. Working from home now, those holiday returns are a bit easier.
Lazy people (clients, other service providers, Realtors, etc). 20-years in the mortgage business and I've never experienced such laziness. There are roughly 8-10 milestones involved in the mortgage process with 8-10 separate service providers... having to push the other 9 service providers to do their job (or in some cases doing the job for them) drags my wife and I down a bit.
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People driving 10mph slower than the flow of traffic in the left lane on a 4 lane highway and just refusing to move over to let people pass >:(
Bonus points when they look over at you all pissed off when you finally pass them on the right after spending 15 minutes flashing your high beams at them to try to get them to move over.
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Oh, that was YOU you bastard! :D
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People driving 10mph slower than the flow of traffic in the left lane on a 4 lane highway and just refusing to move over to let people pass >:(
Bonus points when they look over at you all pissed off when you finally pass them on the right after spending 15 minutes flashing your high beams at them to try to get them to move over.
(https://preview.redd.it/1j44vpbz7n971.jpg?width=654&auto=webp&s=3d44516e2fdb7229d5b0e965fa7f4b67f7cec97e)
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People driving 10mph slower than the flow of traffic in the left lane on a 4 lane highway and just refusing to move over to let people pass >:(
Bonus points when they look over at you all pissed off when you finally pass them on the right after spending 15 minutes flashing your high beams at them to try to get them to move over.
Or as you would call normal driving in Florida.
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People driving 10mph slower than the flow of traffic in the left lane on a 4 lane highway and just refusing to move over to let people pass >:(
Bonus points when they look over at you all pissed off when you finally pass them on the right after spending 15 minutes flashing your high beams at them to try to get them to move over.
(https://preview.redd.it/1j44vpbz7n971.jpg?width=654&auto=webp&s=3d44516e2fdb7229d5b0e965fa7f4b67f7cec97e)
:rollin :rollin
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Obvious - but people driving 30 or less when the speed limit is 60. And you see their brake lights light up almost every 100 yards.
If you're THAT terrified - go on a bus ffs.
Also cyclists who WILL NOT stop and let the huge train of traffic pass them at any point. Even tractors pull over when there's a lay by and let people pass.
Cyclists are like :" :angry: Um excuse me I am part of traffic too, i've every right to be here. " - and they know they're causing a huge tailback and don't even care.
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Counterpoint: people who think the speed limit is a lower limit rather than an upper limit.
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People who talk loudly over music. When trying to share or listen to a good song and they won't shut up.. :censored :facepalm:
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Counterpoint: people who think the speed limit is a lower limit rather than an upper limit.
So...90% of the licensed drivers in California (and most western states).
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Yup. Most drivers act moronically.
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Counterpoint: people who think the speed limit is a lower limit rather than an upper limit.
By law, but reality it is neither. Cops let you go faster or slower, really depends on conditions.
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Counterpoint: people who think the speed limit is a lower limit rather than an upper limit.
By law, but reality it is neither. Cops let you go faster or slower, really depends on conditions.
The lower limit/upper limit idea has always been foreign to me. In VA, the limit is 70 and there are signs that actually tell slower traffic to stay in the right-hand lane or be prosecuted. There is no lower limit (at least on 81). On the upper side, as long as you're below 80, you're good-to-go.
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There are signs on some highways that have minimum signs. Normally is 45 MPH.
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I think "moron" is a tad strong (for the way I drive). I drive faster than those around me, but I have a well-tuned, well-maintained vehicle and I'm paying attention, not:
1. Eating
2. Texting
3. Calling
4. Fiddling with the radio
5. Shaving
6. Brushing my teeth
7. Putting on eyeliner/mascara
8. Receiving oral pleasure
(All things I've personally witnessed drivers doing while driving).
What does it hurt to live and let live? There are, on the interstate, lanes for everyone. If the state/locality didn't demand passing on the left then this wouldn't be an issue. I admittedly have a lead foot, but I end up doing 85% of my driving in the RIGHT HAND LANE. No one is in that lane (at least around where I live) and in fact, I would apply all this to the MIDDLE lane as well. Any time you're not going with the flow of traffic, you are a danger. Move over, let me by, and we're all safe and happy to our own responsibility.
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I thought the speed limit was related to the laws of physics, in that going faster than the posted speed limit on a curvy road means your vehicle may succumb to those laws of physics.
I actually drive faster on straightaways, but when it comes to a curve, I let go of the gas usually till it hits the speed limit, unless there's no other vehicles, then screw the lines and just follow the middle curve like the Race Car racers do (Not Nascar), because physics, but only those side streets where no one actually goes on at all much. I am way more defensive on the city streets and freeways, because people in reality are unpredictable.
But now, people around here are actually going 10 MPH more over the posted speed limit signs. Add in people not using their blinkers while switching lanes, because someone was going 10 MPH slower than the posted speed limit on the left lane, which is causing a backup of vehicles. And that person gets impatient because now he's trapped as the next lane is also going that same speed as the car next to it, leaving no room to pass. That's your usual highway commute here. :lol
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As a strict matter of law, the speed limit is the maximum speed at which you may legally drive. There are minimum speeds, which are typically set by statute. Almost no one knows what they are because they virtually never become an issue (I believe King is correct as it relates to interstate highways).
As a practical matter, pretty much everywhere I've ever driven, with no traffic, driving at the speed limit in anything but the far right lane or second to right lane is going get you passed, often angrily.
On southern California freeways (whether they be interstate or state highways), most of which are subject to a 65mph limit, cops aren't going to pay any attention to you if you're driving up to 75mph. It's only when you get to 80mph or if you're weaving in and out of traffic that you're going to draw attention from cops. When I was in Alaska a few weeks ago, we spent a lot of time on the Seward Highway, which is a state highway that mostly has one lane in each direction (and occasional passing lanes). The posted limit was 65mph. Most folks were doing between 65-70mph. There were, of course, a large number of RVs and trucks that were driving as slow as 50mph, and not many folks driving above 70mph. You just have to figure out the accepted practices of where you're driving, but you're ALWAYS subject to being ticketed if you're driving over the posted limit even if you're going with the flow.
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Anyone ever drive on the autobahn in Germany? No speed limits and people are basically driving very much like there is one, and maybe even better overall (sticking to the right and using turn signals). It's actually pretty crazy that it isn't a total disaster. Probably would be if they had no speed limits on a major highway in the US though.
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Anyone ever drive on the autobahn in Germany? No speed limits and people are basically driving very much like there is one, and maybe even better overall (sticking to the right and using turn signals). It's actually pretty crazy that it isn't a total disaster. Probably would be if they had no speed limits on a major highway in the US though.
I have. It was scary at first since it’s unpredictable for a total newbie like myself. But after a few minutes you realize the natural order to things and adjust. Of course driving on it for the first time at night is not fun.
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Anyone ever drive on the autobahn in Germany? No speed limits and people are basically driving very much like there is one, and maybe even better overall (sticking to the right and using turn signals). It's actually pretty crazy that it isn't a total disaster. Probably would be if they had no speed limits on a major highway in the US though.
Yes, I have. I've driven from Frankfurt to Munich to Innsbruck to Zurich to Frankfurt, and I've driven from Cologne to Dusseldorf to Berlin. While doing that second drive I was, at one point, going 200 km/hr (what, 120 mph? A little more?) and I got passed several times, including once by a guy in a banana-yellow jumpsuit riding a BMW motorcycle (I know this because I saw him later down the road).
It's all discipline and being aware of your surroundings. Oh, and understanding that a lights-flash is a polite request to have the right of way, and not a "f--- you" to be responded to with a finger, a brake tap, speed decrease, or all of the above.
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Yeah, I wonder if there's something to be said about taking some rules away that lead to people driving better because they need to be more aware. Also, I do believe the road itself is better maintained for such driving. Also, I think there's less and less spots of no speed limits these days. I've done the drive between Amsterdam and Frankfurt like 5 or so times now.
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Another weird one is when people slow down when the traffic light is green and speed up when it's on red.
I dunno about the US and Elsewhere - but here - you're allowed to go thru a red light *IF* you were already going too quick to stop safely in time.
Oh - and people who think flashing your lights changes the traffic light sooner ? It doesn't.
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Another weird one is when people slow down when the traffic light is green and speed up when it's on red.
This reminds me of a George Carlin quote that I've been saying a lot since I've been in cars with people often again...
"Why do we drive on the parkway and park on the driveway?" :lol
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Another one is Youtube videos which are padded out to over 10 mins so they get more ad breaks and therefore more revenue - but the video itself could have been three minutes at most.
I keep seeing vids with a simple premise - which could be answered in literally 2 mins. But it was 18 minutes fgs. It's like - I am quite interested in the answer - but i'm not gonna watch
a 20 min video just to get a "in conclusion dunno lol"
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Yeah, I wonder if there's something to be said about taking some rules away that lead to people driving better because they need to be more aware. Also, I do believe the road itself is better maintained for such driving. Also, I think there's less and less spots of no speed limits these days. I've done the drive between Amsterdam and Frankfurt like 5 or so times now.
Along these lines, I remember someone / some article I heard/read years ago that said the safer cars get, the worse drivers become. Don't believe me? Put a 18" metal spike protruding from the middle of a steering wheel, and see how safe drivers become.
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People driving 10mph slower than the flow of traffic in the left lane on a 4 lane highway and just refusing to move over to let people pass >:(
Bonus points when they look over at you all pissed off when you finally pass them on the right after spending 15 minutes flashing your high beams at them to try to get them to move over.
A cop will still pull you over and ticket you for going with the "flow of traffic" if that's higher than the speed limit though. I agree though anyone not passing should be out of the leftmost lane.
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Yeah, I wonder if there's something to be said about taking some rules away that lead to people driving better because they need to be more aware. Also, I do believe the road itself is better maintained for such driving. Also, I think there's less and less spots of no speed limits these days. I've done the drive between Amsterdam and Frankfurt like 5 or so times now.
Along these lines, I remember someone / some article I heard/read years ago that said the safer cars get, the worse drivers become. Don't believe me? Put a 18" metal spike protruding from the middle of a steering wheel, and see how safe drivers become.
This also reminds me of something the ole football coach Joe Paterno used to say. He thought if they wanted to make football safer, you should remove the helmets. Which sounds counterintuitive, but if you didn't have the protection, you'd play much differently to protect yourself. I don't know if it would have worked, kind of hard to support such an idea, but does make you think that some of the safety features we put in place end up changing the way the human acts.
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Yeah, I wonder if there's something to be said about taking some rules away that lead to people driving better because they need to be more aware. Also, I do believe the road itself is better maintained for such driving. Also, I think there's less and less spots of no speed limits these days. I've done the drive between Amsterdam and Frankfurt like 5 or so times now.
Along these lines, I remember someone / some article I heard/read years ago that said the safer cars get, the worse drivers become. Don't believe me? Put a 18" metal spike protruding from the middle of a steering wheel, and see how safe drivers become.
This also reminds me of something the ole football coach Joe Paterno used to say. He thought if they wanted to make football safer, you should remove the helmets. Which sounds counterintuitive, but if you didn't have the protection, you'd play much differently to protect yourself. I don't know if it would have worked, kind of hard to support such an idea, but does make you think that some of the safety features we put in place end up changing the way the human acts.
There's some truth to that. Rugby is an example. That's a tough, sometimes violent sport but they don't seem to have the level of in-game and long term effects that football has.
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Yeah, I wonder if there's something to be said about taking some rules away that lead to people driving better because they need to be more aware. Also, I do believe the road itself is better maintained for such driving. Also, I think there's less and less spots of no speed limits these days. I've done the drive between Amsterdam and Frankfurt like 5 or so times now.
Along these lines, I remember someone / some article I heard/read years ago that said the safer cars get, the worse drivers become. Don't believe me? Put a 18" metal spike protruding from the middle of a steering wheel, and see how safe drivers become.
This also reminds me of something the ole football coach Joe Paterno used to say. He thought if they wanted to make football safer, you should remove the helmets. Which sounds counterintuitive, but if you didn't have the protection, you'd play much differently to protect yourself. I don't know if it would have worked, kind of hard to support such an idea, but does make you think that some of the safety features we put in place end up changing the way the human acts.
There's some truth to that. Rugby is an example. That's a tough, sometimes violent sport but they don't seem to have the level of in-game and long term effects that football has.
I remember listening to an NPR segment years ago about a number of schools piloting helmetless football practices. It forced the kids to learn to tackle properly instead of just using their head as a weapon. I think those schools saw few instances of concussions in actual games if I remember correctly.
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People driving 10mph slower than the flow of traffic in the left lane on a 4 lane highway and just refusing to move over to let people pass >:(
Bonus points when they look over at you all pissed off when you finally pass them on the right after spending 15 minutes flashing your high beams at them to try to get them to move over.
A cop could still pull you over and ticket you for going with the "flow of traffic" if that's higher than the speed limit though. I agree though anyone not passing should be out of the leftmost lane.
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If you're driving over the speed limit but with the flow of traffic and not otherwise giving a cop any reason to single you out, you're not getting pulled over 99.9999% of the time.
There's some truth to that. Rugby is an example. That's a tough, sometimes violent sport but they don't seem to have the level of in-game and long term effects that football has.
I don't know if this is right or wrong, but do we really know? Obviously rugby doesn't get anywhere near the sort of coverage and scrutiny that NFL and minor league (aka college) football get.
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Yeah, I wonder if there's something to be said about taking some rules away that lead to people driving better because they need to be more aware. Also, I do believe the road itself is better maintained for such driving. Also, I think there's less and less spots of no speed limits these days. I've done the drive between Amsterdam and Frankfurt like 5 or so times now.
Along these lines, I remember someone / some article I heard/read years ago that said the safer cars get, the worse drivers become. Don't believe me? Put a 18" metal spike protruding from the middle of a steering wheel, and see how safe drivers become.
This also reminds me of something the ole football coach Joe Paterno used to say. He thought if they wanted to make football safer, you should remove the helmets. Which sounds counterintuitive, but if you didn't have the protection, you'd play much differently to protect yourself. I don't know if it would have worked, kind of hard to support such an idea, but does make you think that some of the safety features we put in place end up changing the way the human acts.
I can see that. As people tend to grow reliance on the safety device, and lose all inhibitions to actually act to protect themselves.
Like people thinking they'll be safe with a life jacket. The water is rushing by like a train, yet they still jump anyways, because they think because they have a life jacket, it will keep them a float.
If nobody had a safety net, would they do it? No, as that reliance is gone. So not having a reliance on the safety net, will cause humans to know that safety net is not there and not to hit someone harder with their helmet straight on, just because they have the safety of a helmet.
Or in other terms, driving with a safety net of having your car beep when you are getting too close, like when you reverse. It informs you when you are too close to hitting something. People then now rely on that video screen and do not look back or all around their vehicle, and when that device does not beep, their brains rely on that sound to inform them of the object, and they end up hitting the object because their beeper was broken.
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Yeah, I wonder if there's something to be said about taking some rules away that lead to people driving better because they need to be more aware. Also, I do believe the road itself is better maintained for such driving. Also, I think there's less and less spots of no speed limits these days. I've done the drive between Amsterdam and Frankfurt like 5 or so times now.
Along these lines, I remember someone / some article I heard/read years ago that said the safer cars get, the worse drivers become. Don't believe me? Put a 18" metal spike protruding from the middle of a steering wheel, and see how safe drivers become.
This also reminds me of something the ole football coach Joe Paterno used to say. He thought if they wanted to make football safer, you should remove the helmets. Which sounds counterintuitive, but if you didn't have the protection, you'd play much differently to protect yourself. I don't know if it would have worked, kind of hard to support such an idea, but does make you think that some of the safety features we put in place end up changing the way the human acts.
He should have started with changing the behavior of his assistant coach, Jerry Sandusky.
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Yeah, I wonder if there's something to be said about taking some rules away that lead to people driving better because they need to be more aware. Also, I do believe the road itself is better maintained for such driving. Also, I think there's less and less spots of no speed limits these days. I've done the drive between Amsterdam and Frankfurt like 5 or so times now.
Along these lines, I remember someone / some article I heard/read years ago that said the safer cars get, the worse drivers become. Don't believe me? Put a 18" metal spike protruding from the middle of a steering wheel, and see how safe drivers become.
This also reminds me of something the ole football coach Joe Paterno used to say. He thought if they wanted to make football safer, you should remove the helmets. Which sounds counterintuitive, but if you didn't have the protection, you'd play much differently to protect yourself. I don't know if it would have worked, kind of hard to support such an idea, but does make you think that some of the safety features we put in place end up changing the way the human acts.
He should have started with changing the behavior of his assistant coach, Jerry Sandusky.
oh geeze
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Sorry. Had to pull out that old thorn. LOL
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Yeah, I wonder if there's something to be said about taking some rules away that lead to people driving better because they need to be more aware. Also, I do believe the road itself is better maintained for such driving. Also, I think there's less and less spots of no speed limits these days. I've done the drive between Amsterdam and Frankfurt like 5 or so times now.
Along these lines, I remember someone / some article I heard/read years ago that said the safer cars get, the worse drivers become. Don't believe me? Put a 18" metal spike protruding from the middle of a steering wheel, and see how safe drivers become.
This also reminds me of something the ole football coach Joe Paterno used to say. He thought if they wanted to make football safer, you should remove the helmets. Which sounds counterintuitive, but if you didn't have the protection, you'd play much differently to protect yourself. I don't know if it would have worked, kind of hard to support such an idea, but does make you think that some of the safety features we put in place end up changing the way the human acts.
He should have started with changing the behavior of his assistant coach, Jerry Sandusky.
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I look at a few 16' aluminum V-hull boats on FB market place, and now three weeks later my feed is full of yachts and old catamarans.
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Yeah, I wonder if there's something to be said about taking some rules away that lead to people driving better because they need to be more aware. Also, I do believe the road itself is better maintained for such driving. Also, I think there's less and less spots of no speed limits these days. I've done the drive between Amsterdam and Frankfurt like 5 or so times now.
Along these lines, I remember someone / some article I heard/read years ago that said the safer cars get, the worse drivers become. Don't believe me? Put a 18" metal spike protruding from the middle of a steering wheel, and see how safe drivers become.
This also reminds me of something the ole football coach Joe Paterno used to say. He thought if they wanted to make football safer, you should remove the helmets. Which sounds counterintuitive, but if you didn't have the protection, you'd play much differently to protect yourself. I don't know if it would have worked, kind of hard to support such an idea, but does make you think that some of the safety features we put in place end up changing the way the human acts.
He should have started with changing the behavior of his assistant coach, Jerry Sandusky.
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:lol If the shoe fits... Coach Pat likely needed to tend his own garden before moving on to tending the garden of College Football. However, I'd agree with removing Sandusky's "helmet" without any further debate or thought...
I look at a few 16' aluminum V-hull boats on FB market place, and now three weeks later my feed is full of yachts and old catamarans.
I'm kinda in the same boat as you (that belongs in the pun thread). My wife and I booked an Airbnb at Prospect Harbor in Maine one night this week for our vacation, and before that night was over, Youtube had recognized my "shopping habits" and my suggested videos were full of New England destination vids. I know that this is how we're monetized for these channels, but does it have to be so obvious? I was in-private when the Abnb was booked and I'm on a VPN.
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I am glad I found kindred spirits here when it comes to spouses holding on to things, thinking others will want their crap, or that their junk has more value than it really does.
So let me ask this... when your spouse is planning a week long trip, does it make Eisenhower planning the Normandy invasion seem like he's getting together with a few friends for a picnic by comparison?
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So let me ask this... when your spouse is planning a week long trip, does it make Eisenhower planning the Normandy invasion seem like he's getting together with a few friends for a picnic by comparison?
when our kids were young, yeah. mrs.jingle would break out the suitcases about 2 weeks ahead of time and start packing a little bit every day. Lists upon lists of things we need, instructions on every little thing about our pets and the house for those that were house or pet-sitting for us. None of that was difficult to deal with - it was the anxieties for weeks leading up to the vacation (worries about everything, 'what-ifs') that were a pain in the ass. 2-3 weeks of anxiety to have a 1-week vacation.
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Man, I wish I had that problem. My wife will stress about it for weeks ahead, but wait till the last day to even get the suitcases down. They are leaving at noon today and at 10p last night were still packing.
I always travel with the mindset of "As long as I have my phone and my wallet, if I forgot something I will buy a new one." Unfortunately some of our family trips are to places where that isn't always easy. And yes kids exacerbates the potential for problems, and "what ifs?"
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Man, I wish I had that problem. My wife will stress about it for weeks ahead, but wait till the last day to even get the suitcases down. They are leaving at noon today and at 10p last night were still packing.
I always travel with the mindset of "As long as I have my phone and my wallet, if I forgot something I will buy a new one." Unfortunately some of our family trips are to places where that isn't always easy. And yes kids exacerbates the potential for problems, and "what ifs?"
My wife packs with "outfits" in mind, which makes zero sense to me, yet she still insists on running through her list with me. That's where I just turn the brain off and nod every once in a while.
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My wife is funny about this; she doesn't pack a ton of stuff. She's good about that. But she puts it all in a suitcase that is like a rock and roll flight case. I swear, we could put the kids in there too if we wanted to. :)
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My wife packs for 3 days one a one day trip. You can imagine for a week.
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My wife packs with "outfits" in mind, which makes zero sense to me, yet she still insists on running through her list with me. That's where I just turn the brain off and nod every once in a while.
Mine ziploc'ed each of my 3 year old's outfits in to their own bag, thereby facilitating getting her dressed each morning. I guess it would make things easier, but by how much? I don't exactly stress over if she has on the correct matching shirt/dress/skirt/pants.
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My wife packs with "outfits" in mind, which makes zero sense to me, yet she still insists on running through her list with me. That's where I just turn the brain off and nod every once in a while.
Mine ziploc'ed each of my 3 year old's outfits in to their own bag, thereby facilitating getting her dressed each morning. I guess it would make things easier, but by how much? I don't exactly stress over if she has on the correct matching shirt/dress/skirt/pants.
How many 3 year olds do you have?
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I took this photo coming home from vacation a few years ago. His/hers :lol
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My wife packs with "outfits" in mind, which makes zero sense to me, yet she still insists on running through her list with me. That's where I just turn the brain off and nod every once in a while.
Mine ziploc'ed each of my 3 year old's outfits in to their own bag, thereby facilitating getting her dressed each morning. I guess it would make things easier, but by how much? I don't exactly stress over if she has on the correct matching shirt/dress/skirt/pants.
I guess it's because almost all of my clothes match (pretty much everything goes with blue jeans and black shorts), I just worry about bringing enough underwear. It's been a long time since all four of us went on a trip together. I think we may have divided and conquered with the kids at that time. Now that my kids are 17 and 19, they're able to do it all themselves, and I don't miss it a bit!
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....when you go to wipe your ass and the toilet paper slips off your hand and you don't realize it until you....realize it.
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Wut?
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Two work-related things:
1) people who do not put on their "out of office" for emails when they are off, or almost as bad, put it on and give no other contact to reach out to in their absence.
2) people who do not have their phone number or another way to reach them in their signatures (when emailing). In a professional environment, it just strikes me as being unprofessional, but maybe that is just me.
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....when you go to wipe your ass and the toilet paper slips off your hand and you don't realize it until you....realize it.
Or when you accidentally fold the bum wad along the perforated line, and it tears as you wipe. >:(
Two work-related things:
1) people who do not put on their "out of office" for emails when they are off, or almost as bad, put it on and give no other contact to reach out to in their absence.
This is me. I do put my OOO on, but often tell people to text me for anything that can't wait until my return. I don't put my cell # on though. In my business/job, if I don't interact with someone regularly enough that they don't know my number, it isn't urgent enough to disturb my vacation. If it *is*, then the person will find a way to either get in touch with me, or find someone else in my company who can help.
My company existed for 30 years just fine before I came along, they'll do ok for a week without me. :biggrin:
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Two work-related things:
1) people who do not put on their "out of office" for emails when they are off, or almost as bad, put it on and give no other contact to reach out to in their absence.
2) people who do not have their phone number or another way to reach them in their signatures (when emailing). In a professional environment, it just strikes me as being unprofessional, but maybe that is just me.
(Assuming internal - I get that this wouldn't work for a lot of industries)
No. No. No. No. No.
Pet peeve of mine, but I hate this so much. 99% of the phone numbers in signatures are the numbers tied to the employee's skype/teams/enterprise account. If I need to call you, I can just click your name and hit the call icon. I can't remember (maybe not ever) manually entering an employee's number to call them. The reason I hate the numbers in the signatures is because of how we track work items for projects. We have a number of different tools that spit out some kind of randomly generated numeric for tracking purposes. If I need to find something for a particular project in my email and search for an item by its number, I get a million false hits in my search because it's picking up like strings in the employees' phone numbers that are in their signatures. Drive me nuts, especially when I have someone from audit asking me for something like a provisional signoff for something from 30 months ago. It makes it really tough to find stuff.
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Hmmm, okay, that makes sense. I was hoping for a different perspective so I can maybe view in a different light, and that is helpful. :tup :tup
For me, who works in logistics and transportation, it can be frustrating to be put in contact with a shipper who I need a bunch of info from, and for whom I was only given their email address (and google brings up no working phone number for their company), and they do not give me a number to where I can call them and get all of the info I need in two minutes, rather than having one of those damn email exchanges for an hour because I need eight pieces of information and they are apparently only capable of giving one of them at at time, so I have to keep asking for the same info. It is more of an industry aggravation on my end for sure. Most days I can laugh it off, as the little things at work generally do not bug and stay with me, but there were a few of these cases yesterday, so they were still on the brain a bit. :lol :facepalm:
And, to be clear, I do not put my cell number in my sig at work. The last thing I need is every customer whose account I manage knowing my cell, because then they think they can call or text you anytime, and even though I am salary and technically "expected" to deal with after hours issues that come up*, being on-call 24/7 is not ideal. End of rant... :P :P
*which they rarely do, to be honest, but I do take care of them when they do; my employer has been really good to me, so I do it with no internal annoyance about it 99% of the time.
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Two work-related things:
1) people who do not put on their "out of office" for emails when they are off, or almost as bad, put it on and give no other contact to reach out to in their absence.
2) people who do not have their phone number or another way to reach them in their signatures (when emailing). In a professional environment, it just strikes me as being unprofessional, but maybe that is just me.
Actually, I run across #2 a lot and it IS exasperating. Especially in these times of COVID, where people's contacts are sometimes in flux.
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....when you go to wipe your ass and the toilet paper slips off your hand and you don't realize it until you....realize it.
Or when you accidentally fold the bum wad along the perforated line, and it tears as you wipe. >:(
Two work-related things:
1) people who do not put on their "out of office" for emails when they are off, or almost as bad, put it on and give no other contact to reach out to in their absence.
This is me. I do put my OOO on, but often tell people to text me for anything that can't wait until my return. I don't put my cell # on though. In my business/job, if I don't interact with someone regularly enough that they don't know my number, it isn't urgent enough to disturb my vacation. If it *is*, then the person will find a way to either get in touch with me, or find someone else in my company who can help.
My company existed for 30 years just fine before I came along, they'll do ok for a week without me. :biggrin:
I haven't put my "Out Of Office" up for over a decade. I have a cellphone that gets all my emails, and it's no skin off my nose to scan through them if need be, either when I'm waiting for the fam to catch up, or when I'm in the can hoping the paper doesn't fail me. :0 A quick note back "hey, out until Monday; can I get back then?" and if no, then I bang it out after the fam goes to sleep or before they wake up. Sure, my company will live on without me and I have no delusions about that, but while I'm here, I want my presence felt. I get more stress and anxiety by wondering if something got left behind than I do taking the ten minutes to address those things that can't wait.
And this is me; no judgment for those that have a different take on things.
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No judgment taken, and none is being given. For me, I work to live, not the other way around. When I'm on leave, I leave my work responsibilities with work. I turn off my notifications and try to completely decompress.
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No judgment taken, and none is being given. For me, I work to live, not the other way around. When I'm on leave, I leave my work responsibilities with work. I turn off my notifications and try to completely decompress.
I thought about using that phrase. I tend to think of myself as "work to live" as well, but just like life doesn't always comply with a 5 pm to 9 am schedule and weekends, so with my work (I work for a French company). That five minutes or so during the vaca sometimes - not always, but sometimes - means hours later that I can reserve for "life".
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I do put my out of office notification e-mail thing during my vacations. I do not leave my cell phone number though. Some people from work know it and they'll call if there's an emergency and I will answer my phone if I'm in town and not too busy. However I tend to travel often during vacations (although that's still limited due to Covid, I think I'll just see some cities in Russia this autumn), so if I'm in another town; or hanging out with my friends or my parents, yeah, I'm going to just ignore the phone. Text me the issue and I'll get back to you when I'm not occupied, which might be in a few hours or a few days. 99% chance it's not an emergency anyway.
I used to be totally on Chad's side (no work contact during vacations) but with the promotion came the responsibility, and a couple of times when I filled in for my boss I had to call him because I had no idea how to proceed with the problems that arose. :lol I'm a little bit more lenient towards people who call me during my vacation now I guess.
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....when you go to wipe your ass and the toilet paper slips off your hand and you don't realize it until you....realize it.
Or when you accidentally fold the bum wad along the perforated line, and it tears as you wipe. >:(
Two work-related things:
1) people who do not put on their "out of office" for emails when they are off, or almost as bad, put it on and give no other contact to reach out to in their absence.
This is me. I do put my OOO on, but often tell people to text me for anything that can't wait until my return. I don't put my cell # on though. In my business/job, if I don't interact with someone regularly enough that they don't know my number, it isn't urgent enough to disturb my vacation. If it *is*, then the person will find a way to either get in touch with me, or find someone else in my company who can help.
My company existed for 30 years just fine before I came along, they'll do ok for a week without me. :biggrin:
I haven't put my "Out Of Office" up for over a decade. I have a cellphone that gets all my emails, and it's no skin off my nose to scan through them if need be, either when I'm waiting for the fam to catch up, or when I'm in the can hoping the paper doesn't fail me. :0 A quick note back "hey, out until Monday; can I get back then?" and if no, then I bang it out after the fam goes to sleep or before they wake up. Sure, my company will live on without me and I have no delusions about that, but while I'm here, I want my presence felt. I get more stress and anxiety by wondering if something got left behind than I do taking the ten minutes to address those things that can't wait.
And this is me; no judgment for those that have a different take on things.
I envy people who get a small enough number of emails to be able to "scan through them if need be" at any given moment, even when they're on free time. Those days have long been in the rear view mirror for me. The volume of email I get just makes it impossible.
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I'm lucky enough that my job doesn't require me to be available when I'm on PTO. I definitely don't check that stuff. But that's an aspect of my job I really like where I'm not salaried and not expected to respond when I'm not on the clock. Having said that, I usually will respond in our chat if someone is reaching out to me because I'll get the IM alert on my phone and often times it's really not a big deal to answer (if I have the answer) or just defer to my coworkers with the reason that I'm on PTO.
Honestly, the PTO deal at my job is really good. Something like 25 days, management approval is not required, and it's highly encouraged to use it. In fact, in my skip level meeting a couple weeks ago, my boss' boss only negative thing he said to me was that I need to start burning PTO because I only used 1 day so far this year.
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My University's spam filter fortunately sends about 95% of outside email straight to spam, so that cut downs on the number of emails I have to read substantially.
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It varies too on if you can take a day off and no one needs to do your job. I am in an industry where when I take a day off, someone has to do my job that whole day (and I do the same for my backup when he is off), so that is why, to me, the out of office thing is key. The last time I took half a day off (the afternoon), I checked out my emails that evening and I had like 200. :eek :eek The good news is that by the time I filtered through them and moved what I didn't need to work on or reply to, it was down to like 9. :lol It's just time-consuming to sort through it all, and I do not want to miss anything.
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My University's spam filter fortunately sends about 95% of outside email straight to spam, so that cut downs on the number of emails I have to read substantially.
I don't really get spam, but we have a lot of systems set up to send out auto generated emails regarding lots of alerts from our network or servers, or our providers/vendors. Like 99.99% of these are not relevant to my daily job so I have about 40 inbox rules set up in outlook to filter them to different folders in case I need to find them. I have well over a million unread emails and monthly I need to delete hundreds of thousands of them so my mailbox doesn't fill up. It's absolutely ridiculous. But because of those filters, my inbox sees maybe 50-100 emails a day of which those may actually be relevant. I'm glad I don't deal with clients because finding the important emails through the weeds is not an easy task if you don't set up the filters.
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On an executive panel once, our CIO informed the company that 95% of all email the company receives is spam, and filtered before it even reaches anyone's inbox. :omg:
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On an executive panel once, our CIO informed the company that 95% of all email the company receives is spam, and filtered before it even reaches anyone's inbox. :omg:
Our companies emails were hacked 2 years ago so they have this new system and everything we do has codes that i have to approve on my cell phone for my computer. It's Fort Knox now to log on.
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Yeah, none of this is surprising. Email filtering is pretty important from the server side before it even hits you these days. Wayyy too many people still fall for phishing somehow.
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I've never really counted; I guess I get between 20 and 40 emails a day, depending on the circumstances?
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Yeah, none of this is surprising. Email filtering is pretty important from the server side before it even hits you these days. Wayyy too many people still fall for phishing somehow.
My company sends out fake phishing emails to test folks. If you fall for it, you have to take some sort of training (not sure if that happens after only one flub or if you need to do more). Most of them are pretty easy to spot, but we still have people who fail - every time.
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Yeah, none of this is surprising. Email filtering is pretty important from the server side before it even hits you these days. Wayyy too many people still fall for phishing somehow.
My company sends out fake phishing emails to test folks. If you fall for it, you have to take some sort of training (not sure if that happens after only one flub or if you need to do more). Most of them are pretty easy to spot, but we still have people who fail - every time.
I've heard that my company does this too, I think this is becoming common.
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Yeah, none of this is surprising. Email filtering is pretty important from the server side before it even hits you these days. Wayyy too many people still fall for phishing somehow.
My company sends out fake phishing emails to test folks. If you fall for it, you have to take some sort of training (not sure if that happens after only one flub or if you need to do more). Most of them are pretty easy to spot, but we still have people who fail - every time.
I've heard that my company does this too, I think this is becoming common.
The practice of educating and testing employees has been around for sometime now. SPAM filters have become far more sophisticated but security appliances that integrate with email allows a company to continually test their employees. We get tested all the time but working for the State, all we deal with is PII.
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Ditto. Additionally, every email from outside the company is labeled "EXTERNAL:" in the Subject line, AND carries a colorful "Caution" header of text in the body reminding it's external and a possible phish. Kinda annoying, because that header takes all the 'preview' space in the popup notification, so I have to go to Outlook for every single external message :tdwn.
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Yeah, none of this is surprising. Email filtering is pretty important from the server side before it even hits you these days. Wayyy too many people still fall for phishing somehow.
My company sends out fake phishing emails to test folks. If you fall for it, you have to take some sort of training (not sure if that happens after only one flub or if you need to do more). Most of them are pretty easy to spot, but we still have people who fail - every time.
My company does this and I'm always surprised at how many folks fall for it. Then IT usually sends out a disappointed parent type email company wide. I've been meaning to ask one of the IT guys if he can give a few names because I have my theories.
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Taxes. After having to owe a decent sum of money between my wife and I we received a letter stating the IRS didn't get half the payment. Now I have to keep trying to call the IRS to see what's up.
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Why weren't vaccination cards made the same size as every other paper document that one would want to carry around in a wallet?
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Why weren't vaccination cards made the same size as every other paper documentation that one would want to carry around in a wallet?
Right? I went to make a copy to laminate for my wallet, and even at 75% or whatever size, it barely fits.
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I was told not to laminate it for further shots but to take a picture of both sides and keep on your phone.
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I was told not to laminate it for further shots but to take a picture of both sides and keep on your phone.
Oh I didn’t laminate the original. They told me to make a copy and laminate that one. In NY you can also download the excelsior pass. Though I’ve never heard of anyone asking for it.
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I was told not to laminate it for further shots but to take a picture of both sides and keep on your phone.
Oh I didn’t laminate the original. They told me to make a copy and laminate that one. In NY you can also download the excelsior pass. Though I’ve never heard of anyone asking for it.
That's interesting. I hope all states get an app for that.
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Why weren't vaccination cards made the same size as every other paper document that one would want to carry around in a wallet?
WORD! I got a cool little wallet with a clear front from my son's Army unit, with a clip and everything, and the vax card is like a 1/4" too big on all four sides to fit. I thought of cutting it down, physically, and I thought about copying it smaller, but I thought that would be too obvious that I did so, and that might make people skittish that it's a fake.
On phishing, here's one: I got a notice from the US Equal Employment Office, and I scrutinized it, and decided to report it as phishing. There was a notice on the web about phishing schemes using EEO emails (there is a link where they ask you to log into their dispute portal) and so I figured better safe than sorry. We walked through it, and the IT person thought that while it was VERY good, it probably wasn't legit. My spider sense was tingling, so I called the EEO office and sure enough... it was legit.
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Mowed the lawn today. I can't fucking stand this chore, infuriating!
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Mowed the lawn today. I can't fucking stand this chore, infuriating!
But you’ll run for miles??
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Mowed the lawn today. I can't fucking stand this chore, infuriating!
But you’ll run for miles??
He can run for miiiles, and miiiiles, and miiiiles, and miiillles, and miiiiiillleesss.
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Mowed the lawn today. I can't fucking stand this chore, infuriating!
But you’ll run for miles??
:lol but I can see the difference. I pay for a service for my lawn. I just can't be bothered with a tedious weekly task that I don't enjoy. I also don't run for miles though
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I'm at the point where two hours (it's actually more now; I bought land) of mowing is peace and quiet. Sometimes I listen to music, sometimes I just ruminate, but it's time with no phones, no screens, no kids, no boss, no wife, nothing, and there are times I cherish that.
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I'm at the point where two hours (it's actually more now; I bought land) of mowing is peace and quiet. Sometimes I listen to music, sometimes I just ruminate, but it's time with no phones, no screens, no kids, no boss, no wife, nothing, and there are times I cherish that.
Hell to the yeah!
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I have a full acre, not including the house footprint. It takes 45 minutes to do the front and about 1:15 to do the back. It's extremely rare that I do the whole thing on the same day.
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I make a playlist and like Stadler, enjoy the serene moments with the music in the background.
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The saga of me trying to plan a bachelor party:
So my cousin is getting married in August, and asked me to be his best man. Happy times. Trying to plan his bachelor party though has been a miserable experience that has been giving me constant agita for almost two months now. I did some brainstorming on my own to come up with ideas, and then talked to my cousin when we went for my suit measurements to see what he wanted to do. We settled on a day in Brooklyn. I would procure us a party bus for the day that would take us into Brooklyn. We'd start with lunch at Peter Luger's (famous steakhouse), visit a couple breweries, and then finish at Roberta's (famous pizza place) for dinner before party bussing our way back to NJ.
First I wanted to get his two other groomsmen on board before inviting anybody else. These motherfuckers basically ignored my text messages for three weeks when I was trying to lock down a date for it (before one of them finally told me that he couldn't do the initial target date because his girlfriend's baby shower was the next day). They left me scrambling and luckily was able to lock down a date that worked for my cousin, myself, the groomsmen, and a couple other people (bringing us to a party of 7).
All that being settled I was on the phone with my cousin to go over some of the details and his fiancee pipes up in the background that she's going to text me her father and brother's contact details so I can invite them as well. OK, fine. I can't make any restaurant reservations without a headcount, and I can't book the party bus without knowing when and where the first drop-off is. So I reach out to the dad and brother, and get ignored by the brother for two weeks. Finally decide to just book the lunch reservation for 9 (assuming the brother is coming, the dad got back to me saying yes), call the restaurant, and find out that they don't take reservations for groups larger than 8 (what the fuck kind of restaurant doesn't want more business). So I take a reservation for 8 and figure that I'll pivot if we end up being 9. But the brother eventually says he can't make it. Great, we've got a lunch reservation for 8 and a group of exactly 8. I book the party bus.
Then I find out that the intended dinner restaurant does not take reservations, and the wait for a table on a weekend could well be hours. Well shit. I spent any free minute I had today researching potential alternatives for dinner. Then I get a text from my cousin just a few minutes ago that he forgot he had a friend he wanted to include in the bachelor party (despite me asking him that at the outset and going over the guest list with him in the interim). On one hand I feel terrible telling my cousin no, on the other hand this fucks up the lunch reservation and I'd have to rework the rental agreement I already signed with the party bus company specifying the first stop. I thought bachelor parties were supposed to be fun, this has been almost two months of nonstop agita for one reason or another.
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While I am lucky enough to not have been a best man yet, this sounds par for the course for organizing these things. If I ever have to, I will be a hard ass with firm dates and head counts if the plan is to do anything more than go to a place and stay there. It's so frustrating when people don't respond or change things. However, I'm sure when the day comes, it will be fun.
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I have been a best man twice. Both couples are now divorced.
A buddy of mine got married a decade ago and I was in his wedding part. They just got divorced.
Long story short: having me in your wedding party is apparently a jinx. :lol :lol
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I have been a best man twice. Both couples are now divorced.
A buddy of mine got married a decade ago and I was in his wedding part. They just got divorced.
Long story short: having me in your wedding party is apparently a jinx. :lol :lol
Hopefully, no offense, you didn't get an invite :lol
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:lol :lol
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Why haven't you made a married/divorce thread Kev? :lol
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And thats only a Bachelor Party. :lol
Imagine the Wedding Planner. :corn
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Mowed the lawn today. I can't fucking stand this chore, infuriating!
That's easy to fix. Don't have a lawn. :justjen
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Mowed the lawn today. I can't fucking stand this chore, infuriating!
That's easy to fix. Don't have a lawn. :justjen
We recently had a long weekend in a small little vacation town and noticed one of the nicer houses had a gorgeous green lawn. Upon closer look, astroturf. It both seemed strange and practical at the same time. :laugh:
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One of the houses in our cul de sac is asking if they can put in turf in place of their front lawn. It is not permitted per HOA rules, but we are considering allowing it because their lawn looks like shit. It is a requirement everyone must keep their property "presentable" but their is no mechanism in place to enforce it.
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I never thought to do that before, but that does sound nice as someone who hates dealing with the lawn. I wonder if turf helps with bugs.
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Thankfully, I don't live in a neighborhood like that.
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Thankfully, I don't live in a neighborhood like that.
I once owned a rental property in an area subject to the arbitrary and capricious rule of an HOA. NEVER again.
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Thankfully, I don't live in a neighborhood like that.
I once owned a rental property in an area subject to the arbitrary and capricious rule of an HOA. NEVER again.
To have nosey neighbors tell me what to do would drive me over the edge. Not that I'd neglect my yard but just a thought of someone complaining about hedge heights and what you could put in your yard goes against my being.
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Cell phones and driving. I had to do a fair amount of driving this morning and EVERY. SINGLE. STOPLIGHT. the light turns green and the cars sit there, until someone is done with their text, their TikTok, or their meme-share. In some cases, that would be half the span of the light. Imagine what that - compounded through 1,000's of intersections - does for traffic?
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Thankfully, I don't live in a neighborhood like that.
I once owned a rental property in an area subject to the arbitrary and capricious rule of an HOA. NEVER again.
To have nosey neighbors tell me what to do would drive me over the edge. Not that I'd neglect my yard but just a thought of someone complaining about hedge heights and what you could put in your yard goes against my being.
My former mother-in-law lived in a place with an HOA. One of the rules required that everyone's garage door be painted every year (or every other year - not sure which). The goal was to maintain a nice appearance, but even in upstate NY, painting that frequently was massive overkill. One year, she didn't do it because it wasn't at all necessary, and sure enough, the HOA sent her a deficiency notice that said if she didn't do it, the HOA would hire someone to do it and then lien the property. Of course, the HOA had the right to do that under the CC&Rs that she agreed to when she bought the place, and that's the problem. You're buying a house, and someone hands you 75 pages of CC&Rs, and NO ONE reads them to see what stupid crap is in there.
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And that is exactly why I will never own a property in a place with an HOA. I don't own a house so other people can tell me what I can and can't do with it. I own a house for precisely the opposite reason. Because I get to do whatever the fuck I want with it. Nobody but me has any say in what color I paint it or how many rose bushes I plant in my front yard or anything else.
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And that is exactly why I will never own a property in a place with an HOA. I don't own a house so other people can tell me what I can and can't do with it. I own a house for precisely the opposite reason. Because I get to do whatever the fuck I want with it. Nobody but me has any say in what color I paint it or how many rose bushes I plant in my front yard or anything else.
Bullshit!
You're still married. That's a live in HOA if you ask me. ;D
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LOL he's married and thinks he can do whatever he wants. :lol :rollin :lol
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Cell phones and driving. I had to do a fair amount of driving this morning and EVERY. SINGLE. STOPLIGHT. the light turns green and the cars sit there, until someone is done with their text, their TikTok, or their meme-share. In some cases, that would be half the span of the light. Imagine what that - compounded through 1,000's of intersections - does for traffic?
I noticed this a lot on my motorcycle, it's maddening. I won't touch my cell phone if I'm driving, it's paired my car so if I get a call I can just use the bluetooth.
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So we bought a super fancy mattress from Nolah's website a month or so ago. $2200 mattress. It arrived, we didn't like it as it was much softer than a mattress labeled as FIRM should be. Their return policy states that we must keep a mattress for 30ndays before they'll accept a "return"... As their return is to have someone pick it up and take it to the dump of the can't find a local charity who wants it.
We actually put it in a super safe mattress bag and stored it on my other half's dad's garage until we could request our refund... And went out and bought a Tempur Pedic.
So we go and have them process the return. They tell us they'll have someone come pick it up and that person will contact us. Several weeks go by and the dude contacts us telling us it'll be a few more weeks.
We contact the mattress company and they tell us we can donate it to a charity or find someone who needs a mattress... And if we basically sign that we gave it to whomever for free, they'll process our refund.
None of the charities or shelters near us will take it... So I finally posted on FB marketplace. Explained the situation... Gave details on the mattress, posted a screen shot of the listing from their website, and stated that whoever wants it needs to sign a thing and give their info so we can forward it to the company to prove we gave it away.
Every single response I've gotten have been insane. People asking "How Much?" "What Size?" And the classic "is this available?"
It's a free expensive mattress. For free. Free. Read the damn listing people. It's not that hard.
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I find it interesting how it feels like people do not even bother to read anymore, especially road signs.
I've heard people ask questions that could be answered by looking up at the sign posted in front of the store, on the side of the customer service desk, or right on the app in their phone.
It feels as if people literally need a big caricature yelling out this information. Even at that, I doubt they would listen to what it is saying, while also staring at the information posted on the side.
I'm like, you spent all that time in line, wasting your precious time, to ask a question that was answered if you payed attention to the signs, or listened to that big screaming robot chicken walking around the store.
I don't even know if there are any charities that would take mattresses. I figured they wouldn't due to not knowing where it came from, and if it isn't infested with bedbugs, or some other type of issue that could be deep within the mattress itself, unable to be detected until it's too late.
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@Jay..Why would you spend that much money on a mattress from a website. $2200 is way too much to leave to chance. Why not just go to a store, feel and touch it first?
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@Jay..Why would you spend that much money on a mattress from a website. $2200 is way too much to leave to chance. Why not just go to a store, feel and touch it first?
We got it for like $700 off. My other half was adamant about it after doing a lot of research and narrowing it down to 2 mattresses. She didn't want to go into a store to try them due to Covid. She's high anxiety when it comes to Covid... I wanted to go in store but it was a disagreement I knew I wasn't going to win. I wasn't too worried after reading the return policy... But also wasn't expecting myself to dislike it as much as I did.
We wound up going into a store to select the mattress we replaced it with and both love it.
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I thought TAC came in to post "Can you send us the mattress? Mrs. TAC would like to hold on to it, in case someone might want it."
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I thought TAC came in to post "Can you send us the mattress? Mrs. TAC would like to hold on to it, in case someone might want it."
:lol
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Getting a new phone on a Saturday night from your company and you need a code from IT which they did not give to log access the phone. GRRRRRRRRRR.
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Getting a new phone on a Saturday night from your company and you need a code from IT which they did not give to log access the phone. GRRRRRRRRRR.
Everything with our IT is terrible. When I first started at my company we had localized IT that would work with a few departments, it was great because they had an understanding of the nature of the work you do and applications you use. They got rid of that so when it comes to calling IT it's a nightmare.
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That is 100% what I'm dealing with right now.
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It's a free expensive mattress. For free. Free. Read the damn listing people. It's not that hard.
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I find it interesting how it feels like people do not even bother to read anymore, especially road signs.
My stepson sells a lot of car parts on line and he complains about this all the time. He's got a gutted BMW E36 up for sale that he wants to sell complete for parts, and some of the requests he gets are insane. They almost seem random. "Does it drive?" and it's on jack stands with no tires and the two front hubs gone. ;)
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I actually read somewhere that if you want something picked up that you'd list for free charge a small amount of money, like $10. Apparently it weeds out a lot of the riff raff when trying to get rid of stuff.
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One of my best friends came out and said he wanted it... So I get to bypass all the bullshit now :JayOctavarium:
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My stepson sells a lot of car parts on line and he complains about this all the time. He's got a gutted BMW E36 up for sale that he wants to sell complete for parts, and some of the requests he gets are insane. They almost seem random. "Does it drive?" and it's on jack stands with no tires and the two front hubs gone. ;)
Well, in all fairness, they're probably asking if it actually had tires, could you drive the thing.
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For Jay's situation, I could see people wondering "what's the catch" for listing a new expensive mattress for free.
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For Jay's situation, I could see people wondering "what's the catch" for listing a new expensive mattress for free.
Bed bugs perhaps? :lol
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My wife always prefers to eat outside at a restaurant if possible. So tonight, we go to a restaurant where everyone is eating inside, and there is nobody eating outside. See, we're in Scottsdale and it's 100 f'n degrees out.
She's like, it's really nice out here...WUT?
I said, when was the last time you've gone into an 80 degree restaurant and asked them to turn up the heat to 100??
The waitress refilled our waters and remarked that it was great that we were drinking our water, and that most people don't. To which I replied..most people eat inside.
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My wife always prefers to eat outside at a restaurant if possible. So tonight, we go to a restaurant where everyone is eating inside, and there is nobody eating outside. See, we're in Scottsdale and it's 100 f'n degrees out.
She's like, it's really nice out here...WUT?
I said, when was the last time you've gone into an 80 degree restaurant and asked them to turn up the heat to 100??
The waitress refilled our waters and remarked that it was great that we were drinking our water, and that most people don't. To which I replied..most people eat inside.
HAHA
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My wife is the same TAC, she always wants to eat outside. I had to put a veto to that in the summer months, I don't like eating my food while also sweating.
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Oh my wife knows I hate eating outside during the extreme summer heat. Plus the bugs drive crazy.
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I won't make it an issue or anything, but if it's my preference, I generally pick inside. If there's a terrace or something and I can people-watch, maybe I'll take outside, but not often.
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I like outside if there's a body of water to look at.
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Not to mention wind. Either I had long hair or I have a long beard, and I don't want to constantly fuck with it blowing around while I'm trying to eat.
On the subject of restaurants, I came here to post that if you can't be bothered to print a menu go fuck yourself and your trendy-ass food. Does anybody want to read a menu on their phone? Anybody? If you can't afford to print your damn menu then you're already starting off on the wrong foot, and I'll be glad to watch you go up in flames. Next they'll be having us bring our own tableware. "What, don't you want to save the planet?" Straight into the fucking sun.
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So many restaurants are doing that now El Barto. I'm with you on that. Give me a big old printed menu.
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So many restaurants are doing that now El Barto. I'm with you on that. Give me a big old printed menu.
Well, Covid has something to do with that, but at least print off disposable paper ones.
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Not to mention wind. Either I had long hair or I have a long beard, and I don't want to constantly fuck with it blowing around while I'm trying to eat.
On the subject of restaurants, I came here to post that if you can't be bothered to print a menu go fuck yourself and your trendy-ass food. Does anybody want to read a menu on their phone? Anybody? If you can't afford to print your damn menu then you're already starting off on the wrong foot, and I'll be glad to watch you go up in flames. Next they'll be having us bring our own tableware. "What, don't you want to save the planet?" Straight into the fucking sun.
A restaurant I really enjoy started doing this recently, and they blamed Covid, but not because of germs or the virus itself. Supply chains are so jacked up right now (and pending what kind of restaurant you are) it's really difficult to maintain a constant menu. Prices are changing all the time, stuff like lobster might not be available for weeks, and something like lamb might suddenly be available when you typically don't carry it. The turnaround time on new menus is too long by the sounds of it.
That being said, I loathe looking at menus on my phone.
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So many restaurants are doing that now El Barto. I'm with you on that. Give me a big old printed menu.
Well, Covid has something to do with that, but at least print off disposable paper ones.
Yeah, I just hope this isn't something that stays with us. Like basically all the restuarants I've gone to lately still do this, but none of the other covid things are in play anymore (at least for now). So I'd really like to bring back the menus. I guess it's cheaper to do the QR codes but that's really not something I, the consumer, prefer.
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So...I live in a residential neighborhood, and we have lots of folks jogging in the morning around the time I leave for work. Some of these folks have it in their head that it is appreciably different to run on asphalt than concrete (it's not, even though concrete has a much higher elastic modulus than concrete, but whatever). However, for the most part, these folks either run to the far right or left of the street or jump on the sidewalk if there's a car parked on the street.
However, there is a "main" street that runs to the north of the tract. It's two lanes of traffic in each direction with a 35mph speed limit, and parked cars line most of the street. This morning, I come out of the tract and turn left on the main street. I get in the right lane because I'm going to make a right turn soon, and this woman is running towards me -- basically in the middle of my lane (because of parked cars) AND pushing a stroller. Fortunately, there was no one in the left lane, so I could just move over to avoid hitting her, but if there had been someone there, it would have been an interesting encounter. This woman may have a death wish for herself, but to put her kid into the line of fire like that was downright irresponsible. GET OUT OF THE FUCKING STREET!
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So many restaurants are doing that now El Barto. I'm with you on that. Give me a big old printed menu.
Well, Covid has something to do with that, but at least print off disposable paper ones.
Yeah, I just hope this isn't something that stays with us. Like basically all the restuarants I've gone to lately still do this, but none of the other covid things are in play anymore (at least for now). So I'd really like to bring back the menus. I guess it's cheaper to do the QR codes but that's really not something I, the consumer, prefer.
Yup, but we'll all put up with it so they have no reason to stop.
Also, the place that just got me started on this just links to jpgs of their menu. If it were a PDF I'd still hate it but at least it would make sense from an ease of change point of view. This is just being cheap and lazy.
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Not to mention wind. Either I had long hair or I have a long beard, and I don't want to constantly fuck with it blowing around while I'm trying to eat.
On the subject of restaurants, I came here to post that if you can't be bothered to print a menu go fuck yourself and your trendy-ass food. Does anybody want to read a menu on their phone? Anybody? If you can't afford to print your damn menu then you're already starting off on the wrong foot, and I'll be glad to watch you go up in flames. Next they'll be having us bring our own tableware. "What, don't you want to save the planet?" Straight into the fucking sun.
A restaurant I really enjoy started doing this recently, and they blamed Covid, but not because of germs or the virus itself. Supply chains are so jacked up right now (and pending what kind of restaurant you are) it's really difficult to maintain a constant menu. Prices are changing all the time, stuff like lobster might not be available for weeks, and something like lamb might suddenly be available when you typically don't carry it. The turnaround time on new menus is too long by the sounds of it.
That being said, I loathe looking at menus on my phone.
I understand this, and I do not envy these restaurants, and it's actually in all the food business. Farms got hit hard with the pandemic, and now with the weather and the delivery truck issue is another problem the food industry and business is dealing with right now.
What I do find hilarious is in my city I have found 2 Starbucks that still have Green Tea, while the rest are out of it and they told me they won't be getting any more any time soon. I am now left wondering if those two stores are franchisees and not corporate owned stores. :lol
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So many restaurants are doing that now El Barto. I'm with you on that. Give me a big old printed menu.
Well, Covid has something to do with that, but at least print off disposable paper ones.
Yeah, I just hope this isn't something that stays with us. Like basically all the restuarants I've gone to lately still do this, but none of the other covid things are in play anymore (at least for now). So I'd really like to bring back the menus. I guess it's cheaper to do the QR codes but that's really not something I, the consumer, prefer.
Yup, but we'll all put up with it so they have no reason to stop.
Also, the place that just got me started on this just links to jpgs of their menu. If it were a PDF I'd still hate it but at least it would make sense from an ease of change point of view. This is just being cheap and lazy.
This one local restaurant is being reliant on QR codes as well, and when you do go onto the site, it doesn't even work. What I had to do was just go onto their website and download it from there. :facepalm: :\
I was like, what's the point when it's not even working. It was gonna be closing so I didn't bother to let them know, as it was pretty busy that night.
I just find it amazing how people expect these restaurants to be the same service and have the same menu, and expect things to be the same, without regards to understanding the issues the pandemic has caused for this industry.
I always told people, watch what new technology gets released and pushed. Using the pandemic as the excuse.
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I just find it amazing how people expect these restaurants to be the same service and have the same menu, and expect things to be the same, without regards to understanding the issues the pandemic has caused for this industry.
I understand the issue and I'm quite sympathetic to them. I'm supporting them to the best of my ability and I'm tipping much better than I used to (and I'm a good tipper, anyway). That said, put a fucking chalkboard on the wall you cheap, lazy bastard. Don't saddle me with your problems when I'm there trying to keep your dumb ass afloat.
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I've got no issues of doing this during the pandemic especially when people are worried about touching surfaces (even though that has been shown to not be much of a way of transmission at all) but holding and browsing a physical menu (and even having it handed to you) is a really nice part of the dining experience IMO. There's nothing interesting or makes me feel attached to a restaurant by looking through my phone. Of course I do think this benefits the restaurants though. They don't need to print and update the menus or clean them. I wouldn't be surprised if it stayed permanently at a lot of places for that reason.
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So many restaurants are doing that now El Barto. I'm with you on that. Give me a big old printed menu.
Well, Covid has something to do with that, but at least print off disposable paper ones.
Places were doing this before covid. I understand during covid.
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I think QR code menus are just going to be a normal thing for most restaurants moving forward. Plenty will stick with paper ones but it's just a new thing. I personally am fine with it. It's a menu. I don't need to feel connected to the restaurant through their menu. It just needs to tell me what I can order.
But to what Bart said about links to the Jpeg or PDF menus...yea that stuff has to go. That's just the laziest thing they can do.
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I just find it amazing how people expect these restaurants to be the same service and have the same menu, and expect things to be the same, without regards to understanding the issues the pandemic has caused for this industry.
I understand the issue and I'm quite sympathetic to them. I'm supporting them to the best of my ability and I'm tipping much better than I used to (and I'm a good tipper, anyway). That said, put a fucking chalkboard on the wall you cheap, lazy bastard. Don't saddle me with your problems when I'm there trying to keep your dumb ass afloat.
It's a reason why I also said, watch for how they implement and require us to use the new technology. This is one way they are doing this.
The way it's turning out is that menus will be a thing of the past. Before the pandemic, they had Touch Screen pads on the tables where you could order drinks, appetizers, and pay when your finished. Now since people started worrying more about germs, instead of spending money on these touchpads and the software, they decided to implement the new QR technology to link the menu on a customers phone, which they have on them all the time, and they can read it on there. Some places even have apps you can download on your phone that lets you order from there, request a reservation, and even order food to be ready when you arrive at your seat (I have no idea if anyone has tried this out at our restaurant).
As I see it, it depends on how worried the restaurant is about germs. I have been to restaurants that do not care and are using printed off menus that are not disposable. :lol
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I think QR code menus are just going to be a normal thing for most restaurants moving forward. Plenty will stick with paper ones but it's just a new thing. I personally am fine with it. It's a menu. I don't need to feel connected to the restaurant through their menu. It just needs to tell me what I can order.
But to what Bart said about links to the Jpeg or PDF menus...yea that stuff has to go. That's just the laziest thing they can do.
I personally would rather like a touchscreen on the table that has all the listed food and beverages on it that I can order on and personalize, like how they have the online ordering. That way, the communication will be between me and the cooks, without worry of the waiter not paying attention and writing down what I ordered correctly.
While I enjoy the scenery, the people, and the atmosphere of the place. I sometimes, try and find local restaurants when I travel out of town or out of state.
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I think QR code menus are just going to be a normal thing for most restaurants moving forward. Plenty will stick with paper ones but it's just a new thing. I personally am fine with it. It's a menu. I don't need to feel connected to the restaurant through their menu. It just needs to tell me what I can order.
But to what Bart said about links to the Jpeg or PDF menus...yea that stuff has to go. That's just the laziest thing they can do.
For me it's not about feeling connected to the restaurant. It's about the menu suddenly being 1400% smaller. If a restaurant handed you a menu that was smaller than a notecard you'd ask them to bring you the whole menu. Moreover, if it's a jpg then depending on your browser/OS, you may not even be able to zoom in on it. Even if you can, though, now you can only see a small portion of the page. Part of the fun of dining out is trying to decide what you'd like. If you can only see one item at a time that's pretty much a thing of the past. "Well, the Schweinshaxen mit flammenden Schweinebällen pochiert sounds pretty good, but what was that other thing?"
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I think QR code menus are just going to be a normal thing for most restaurants moving forward. Plenty will stick with paper ones but it's just a new thing. I personally am fine with it. It's a menu. I don't need to feel connected to the restaurant through their menu. It just needs to tell me what I can order.
But to what Bart said about links to the Jpeg or PDF menus...yea that stuff has to go. That's just the laziest thing they can do.
For me it's not about feeling connected to the restaurant. It's about the menu suddenly being 1400% smaller. If a restaurant handed you a menu that was smaller than a notecard you'd ask them to bring you the whole menu. Moreover, if it's a jpg then depending on your browser/OS, you may not even be able to zoom in on it. Even if you can, though, now you can only see a small portion of the page. Part of the fun of dining out is trying to decide what you'd like. If you can only see one item at a time that's pretty much a thing of the past. "Well, the Schweinshaxen mit flammenden Schweinebällen pochiert sounds pretty good, but what was that other thing?"
I'll have the Baby Guts... :lol
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The menu isn't terribly important at a chain restaurant, but I think it plays a bigger role at nicer local spots. Usually the menus have some nice art in them, something to tie into the theme and feel of the restaurant. It's kind of like album artwork in a way. The food is all that matters, but all the other details can add to a nice experience. I say this as someone who hardly eats out anymore (this was before the pandemic) so when I do, I really want the full dine in experience. Like sitting down and having the waiter hand you a menu. Maybe I'm just old school in that.
Also some take out spots where you can grab a menu and keep for next time you order. While those may stack up in a garbage pile, sometimes it's nice to have one available like we do in my office I share with my coworker. We have the menus of a few of the spots we would regularly grab lunch at. Also a lot of online menus don't list prices either, which is annoying. (I have not seen this for QR code scanning at a restaurant, but usually for chains where the pricing isn't consistent everywhere).
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I think QR code menus are just going to be a normal thing for most restaurants moving forward. Plenty will stick with paper ones but it's just a new thing. I personally am fine with it. It's a menu. I don't need to feel connected to the restaurant through their menu. It just needs to tell me what I can order.
But to what Bart said about links to the Jpeg or PDF menus...yea that stuff has to go. That's just the laziest thing they can do.
For me it's not about feeling connected to the restaurant. It's about the menu suddenly being 1400% smaller. If a restaurant handed you a menu that was smaller than a notecard you'd ask them to bring you the whole menu. Moreover, if it's a jpg then depending on your browser/OS, you may not even be able to zoom in on it. Even if you can, though, now you can only see a small portion of the page. Part of the fun of dining out is trying to decide what you'd like. If you can only see one item at a time that's pretty much a thing of the past. "Well, the Schweinshaxen mit flammenden Schweinebällen pochiert sounds pretty good, but what was that other thing?"
Oh I agree with you on the Jpg part. No argument here.
But for the rest? Most of us are on our phones regularly anyway, so I don't see the size being a big deal. I haven't had too many bad experiences with QR code menus, though I can definitely see how others can find them annoying.
I'll quote a wise man.
It's us old farts that object to new technology, and we eventually die off. The youngsters will grow up with it and they'll trust it well enough.
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I think QR code menus are just going to be a normal thing for most restaurants moving forward. Plenty will stick with paper ones but it's just a new thing. I personally am fine with it. It's a menu. I don't need to feel connected to the restaurant through their menu. It just needs to tell me what I can order.
But to what Bart said about links to the Jpeg or PDF menus...yea that stuff has to go. That's just the laziest thing they can do.
For me it's not about feeling connected to the restaurant. It's about the menu suddenly being 1400% smaller. If a restaurant handed you a menu that was smaller than a notecard you'd ask them to bring you the whole menu. Moreover, if it's a jpg then depending on your browser/OS, you may not even be able to zoom in on it. Even if you can, though, now you can only see a small portion of the page. Part of the fun of dining out is trying to decide what you'd like. If you can only see one item at a time that's pretty much a thing of the past. "Well, the Schweinshaxen mit flammenden Schweinebällen pochiert sounds pretty good, but what was that other thing?"
Oh I agree with you on the Jpg part. No argument here.
But for the rest? Most of us are on our phones regularly anyway, so I don't see the size being a big deal. I haven't had too many bad experiences with QR code menus, though I can definitely see how others can find them annoying.
I'll quote a wise man.
It's us old farts that object to new technology, and we eventually die off. The youngsters will grow up with it and they'll trust it well enough.
Oh, that guy's a fucking idiot. People need to stop listening to him. And in the case of self driving cars, seatbelts, and ABS, those are all improvements. An 8 square inch menu is only a good thing if you never knew that they used to be notebook sized. It's a downgrade hoping to catch on. Youngsters are also growing up with 3qt gallons of ice cream and 12oz pounds of bacon, too.
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The menu isn't terribly important at a chain restaurant, but I think it plays a bigger role at nicer local spots. Usually the menus have some nice art in them, something to tie into the theme and feel of the restaurant. It's kind of like album artwork in a way. The food is all that matters, but all the other details can add to a nice experience. I say this as someone who hardly eats out anymore (this was before the pandemic) so when I do, I really want the full dine in experience. Like sitting down and having the waiter hand you a menu. Maybe I'm just old school in that.
Also some take out spots where you can grab a menu and keep for next time you order. While those may stack up in a garbage pile, sometimes it's nice to have one available like we do in my office I share with my coworker. We have the menus of a few of the spots we would regularly grab lunch at. Also a lot of online menus don't list prices either, which is annoying. (I have not seen this for QR code scanning at a restaurant, but usually for chains where the pricing isn't consistent everywhere).
I loved that too. It mainly brings me back to dining out with my grandma. :biggrin:
It really depends on where you go on what type of menu a restaurant will have. More of the smaller local places have printed out menus. These are usually the ones that do not have a website, or don't do online ordering.
I am finding myself rather just eating out a more local spots, giving them the physical business. And using online for the bigger more known places.
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Most of us are on our phones regularly anyway
This actually is another reason why I don't like the QR codes. We are already on our phones enough, even during dine in meals. I'm guilty as well. But it really lowers the experience when everyone is on their phones already, now you are forced to be on your phone for the first however minutes of sitting down.
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I think QR code menus are just going to be a normal thing for most restaurants moving forward. Plenty will stick with paper ones but it's just a new thing. I personally am fine with it. It's a menu. I don't need to feel connected to the restaurant through their menu. It just needs to tell me what I can order.
But to what Bart said about links to the Jpeg or PDF menus...yea that stuff has to go. That's just the laziest thing they can do.
For me it's not about feeling connected to the restaurant. It's about the menu suddenly being 1400% smaller. If a restaurant handed you a menu that was smaller than a notecard you'd ask them to bring you the whole menu. Moreover, if it's a jpg then depending on your browser/OS, you may not even be able to zoom in on it. Even if you can, though, now you can only see a small portion of the page. Part of the fun of dining out is trying to decide what you'd like. If you can only see one item at a time that's pretty much a thing of the past. "Well, the Schweinshaxen mit flammenden Schweinebällen pochiert sounds pretty good, but what was that other thing?"
Oh I agree with you on the Jpg part. No argument here.
But for the rest? Most of us are on our phones regularly anyway, so I don't see the size being a big deal. I haven't had too many bad experiences with QR code menus, though I can definitely see how others can find them annoying.
I'll quote a wise man.
It's us old farts that object to new technology, and we eventually die off. The youngsters will grow up with it and they'll trust it well enough.
Oh, that guy's a fucking idiot. People need to stop listening to him. And in the case of self driving cars, seatbelts, and ABS, those are all improvements. An 8 square inch menu is only a good thing if you never knew that they used to be notebook sized. It's a downgrade hoping to catch on. Youngsters are also growing up with 3qt gallons of ice cream and 12oz pounds of bacon, too.
Anyone seen an oatmeal pie lately? Used to be the size of a small frisbee. Now it's barely a hockey puck.
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I think QR code menus are just going to be a normal thing for most restaurants moving forward. Plenty will stick with paper ones but it's just a new thing. I personally am fine with it. It's a menu. I don't need to feel connected to the restaurant through their menu. It just needs to tell me what I can order.
But to what Bart said about links to the Jpeg or PDF menus...yea that stuff has to go. That's just the laziest thing they can do.
For me it's not about feeling connected to the restaurant. It's about the menu suddenly being 1400% smaller. If a restaurant handed you a menu that was smaller than a notecard you'd ask them to bring you the whole menu. Moreover, if it's a jpg then depending on your browser/OS, you may not even be able to zoom in on it. Even if you can, though, now you can only see a small portion of the page. Part of the fun of dining out is trying to decide what you'd like. If you can only see one item at a time that's pretty much a thing of the past. "Well, the Schweinshaxen mit flammenden Schweinebällen pochiert sounds pretty good, but what was that other thing?"
Oh I agree with you on the Jpg part. No argument here.
But for the rest? Most of us are on our phones regularly anyway, so I don't see the size being a big deal. I haven't had too many bad experiences with QR code menus, though I can definitely see how others can find them annoying.
I'll quote a wise man.
It's us old farts that object to new technology, and we eventually die off. The youngsters will grow up with it and they'll trust it well enough.
Oh, that guy's a fucking idiot. People need to stop listening to him. And in the case of self driving cars, seatbelts, and ABS, those are all improvements. An 8 square inch menu is only a good thing if you never knew that they used to be notebook sized. It's a downgrade hoping to catch on. Youngsters are also growing up with 3qt gallons of ice cream and 12oz pounds of bacon, too.
Anyone seen an oatmeal pie lately? Used to be the size of a small frisbee. Now it's barely a hockey puck.
What, like Little Debbie? Haven't seen one of those since 1987, when I graduated. I was always a Star Crunch kind of guy, anyway.
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Dang, never gave a second thought to digital menus before. If it gets rid of those 24"x36" laminated billboards places like Red Robin have, then I am all for it!
I personally would rather like a touchscreen on the table that has all the listed food and beverages on it that I can order on and personalize, like how they have the online ordering. That way, the communication will be between me and the cooks, without worry of the waiter not paying attention and writing down what I ordered correctly.
Maybe it is just my social anxiety talking, but this would be awesome! Cut out the middle man/woman. I'll take it a step further: Just buzz my table when my food is ready and I will go pick it up. Just have a button ready in case there is an issue like on an airplane. Otherwise, order and pay at the table digitally, and there is no need to talk to any restaurant employee.
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Dang, never gave a second thought to digital menus before. If it gets rid of those 24"x36" laminated billboards places like Red Robin have, then I am all for it!
I personally would rather like a touchscreen on the table that has all the listed food and beverages on it that I can order on and personalize, like how they have the online ordering. That way, the communication will be between me and the cooks, without worry of the waiter not paying attention and writing down what I ordered correctly.
Maybe it is just my social anxiety talking, but this would be awesome! Cut out the middle man/woman. I'll take it a step further: Just buzz my table when my food is ready and I will go pick it up. Just have a button ready in case there is an issue like on an airplane. Otherwise, order and pay at the table digitally, and there is no need to talk to any restaurant employee.
Like how Fuddruckers does by calling your name to pick up your burger.
And I have been saying too, how can restaurants not have some sort of flag system set up to let the waiter know a table needs service. That would help the consumer more rather than waiting for your waiter or even asking another waiter for something, like your check.
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And I have been saying too, how can restaurants not have some sort of flag system set up to let the waiter know a table needs service.
Casa Bonita has this system! (https://youtu.be/8UvuLJ-amyI?t=45)
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And I have been saying too, how can restaurants not have some sort of flag system set up to let the waiter know a table needs service.
Casa Bonita has this system! (https://youtu.be/8UvuLJ-amyI?t=45)
Yup. And I actually haven't been able to experience that yet.
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It is part restaurant, part Vegas revue, part carnival. I am not sure I would ever need or want to go there again, but am glad I did once, if only because my daughter loved it.
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It is part restaurant, part Vegas revue, part carnival. I am not sure I would ever need or want to go there again, but am glad I did once, if only because my daughter loved it.
The only reason I wanted to go was because of South Park. :lol
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Never heard of Casa Bonita, but Panchos had that. You went through the buffet line once and then just raised the flag for everything else. I've also been in a Korean restaurant where you're in your own private room and ring a little doorbell button when you want a waitress. Otherwise they'll just forget about you.
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Never heard of Casa Bonita, but Panchos had that. You went through the buffet line once and then just raised the flag for everything else.
Raising the flag is just for sopapillas. Otherwise it is just like a restaurant, except you wait in line for like an hour, then get your tray of food cafeteria-style. And there are cliff-divers. And a person in a gorilla suit.
I've also been in a Korean restaurant where you're in your own private room and ring a little doorbell button when you want a waitress.
Sounds like the type of place Deshaun Watson would frequent.
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So...ESPN can report NHL news after all..
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As someone who likes to cook, but doesn't like all that goes around it - cleaning up, putting dishes away, etc. - the idea of a buffet is not high on the list. They're only taking away the one thing I like to do. If I go out, I usually like to be allowed to skip those things I don't like to do.
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I've also been in a Korean restaurant where you're in your own private room and ring a little doorbell button when you want a waitress.
Sounds like the type of place Deshaun Watson would frequent.
Yeah, that's far more accurate than you realized. In Dallas Korea-town is where the AMPs are. I don't think there's any actual connection, but they just happen to be neighbors. On the rare occasion the city shuts down an AMP and steals the real estate from the owner, they often get turned into restaurants. In this case, if you're opening a restaurant for people who prefer private dining rooms (definitely Koreans), you can do a lot worse than a building that already has eight or ten segmented 8'x8' rooms and low lighting.
And now that I think about it, pre-existing panic buttons that can be repurposed as call buttons for waitresses. :lol
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I've also been in a Korean restaurant where you're in your own private room and ring a little doorbell button when you want a waitress.
Sounds like the type of place Deshaun Watson would frequent.
Yeah, that's far more accurate than you realized. In Dallas Korea-town is where the AMPs are. I don't think there's any actual connection, but they just happen to be neighbors. On the rare occasion the city shuts down an AMP and steals the real estate from the owner, they often get turned into restaurants. In this case, if you're opening a restaurant for people who prefer private dining rooms (definitely Koreans), you can do a lot worse than a building that already has eight or ten segmented 8'x8' rooms and low lighting.
And now that I think about it, pre-existing panic buttons that can be repurposed as call buttons for waitresses. :lol
And a lot of Kilz (paint) and soju (liquor) to help forget about what went on before. And under no circumstances any black lights!
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I personally would rather like a touchscreen on the table that has all the listed food and beverages on it that I can order on and personalize, like how they have the online ordering. That way, the communication will be between me and the cooks, without worry of the waiter not paying attention and writing down what I ordered correctly.
There is (or, maybe, was) a place near me called Stacked. You could, if you wanted, get a regular menu and give your order to the waiter(ress), but they also have iPads at the tables, and you can put in your own orders. Did you submit your drink order and then realize you forgot the appetizer? No problem. Just put it in on the iPad. You can drag and dropped toppings for your burger onto a visual representation so you can see right in front of you what your concoction will look like. It's fun, and the food is pretty good. Sadly, it appears that this place may be a pandemic victim.
Like how Fuddruckers does by calling your name to pick up your burger.
I so very much miss Fuddruckers (I've been going since I was in my teens). All the southern California locations closed (pre-pandemic). My son and I are seriously considering driving to Phoenix to go to Fudds and also take in a Diamondbacks game.
And I have been saying too, how can restaurants not have some sort of flag system set up to let the waiter know a table needs service. That would help the consumer more rather than waiting for your waiter or even asking another waiter for something, like your check.
At least a few places (Outback and Red Robin come to mind) have kiosks at the table that allow you to view and pay your check without any involvement from the waiter(ress).
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Like how Fuddruckers does by calling your name to pick up your burger.
I so very much miss Fuddruckers (I've been going since I was in my teens). All the southern California locations closed (pre-pandemic). My son and I are seriously considering driving to Phoenix to go to Fudds and also take in a Diamondbacks game.
When I lived in Burbank we ate there a LOT. That was '91, '92, though. :)
And I have been saying too, how can restaurants not have some sort of flag system set up to let the waiter know a table needs service. That would help the consumer more rather than waiting for your waiter or even asking another waiter for something, like your check.
At least a few places (Outback and Red Robin come to mind) have kiosks at the table that allow you to view and pay your check without any involvement from the waiter(ress).
Friendly's does that as well.
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I've also been in a Korean restaurant where you're in your own private room and ring a little doorbell button when you want a waitress.
Sounds like the type of place Deshaun Watson would frequent.
Yeah, that's far more accurate than you realized. In Dallas Korea-town is where the AMPs are. I don't think there's any actual connection, but they just happen to be neighbors. On the rare occasion the city shuts down an AMP and steals the real estate from the owner, they often get turned into restaurants. In this case, if you're opening a restaurant for people who prefer private dining rooms (definitely Koreans), you can do a lot worse than a building that already has eight or ten segmented 8'x8' rooms and low lighting.
And now that I think about it, pre-existing panic buttons that can be repurposed as call buttons for waitresses. :lol
And a lot of Kilz (paint) and soju (liquor) to help forget about what went on before. And under no circumstances any black lights!
Man, it's like you guys have been there.
(https://s3-media0.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/qEAu_ZeuIpoc8vgDKvxIaw/o.jpg)
Soju is one of the reasons we still go there. The better late-night Korean place doesn't offer it.
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Like how Fuddruckers does by calling your name to pick up your burger.
I so very much miss Fuddruckers (I've been going since I was in my teens). All the southern California locations closed (pre-pandemic). My son and I are seriously considering driving to Phoenix to go to Fudds and also take in a Diamondbacks game.
When I lived in Burbank we ate there a LOT. That was '91, '92, though. :)
And I have been saying too, how can restaurants not have some sort of flag system set up to let the waiter know a table needs service. That would help the consumer more rather than waiting for your waiter or even asking another waiter for something, like your check.
At least a few places (Outback and Red Robin come to mind) have kiosks at the table that allow you to view and pay your check without any involvement from the waiter(ress).
Friendly's does that as well.
Wow Friendlys and Fuddruckers references, both looonnng gone in NJ. Do they exist anywhere else now?
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Friendly’s was great!!
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Friendly’s was great!!
I loved it as a kid, but last time I went I thought it was terrible in terms of the food. The ice cream was always good though. Even the friendlys ice cream cups you could buy at the supermarket were good.
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Like how Fuddruckers does by calling your name to pick up your burger.
I so very much miss Fuddruckers (I've been going since I was in my teens). All the southern California locations closed (pre-pandemic). My son and I are seriously considering driving to Phoenix to go to Fudds and also take in a Diamondbacks game.
When I lived in Burbank we ate there a LOT. That was '91, '92, though. :)
And I have been saying too, how can restaurants not have some sort of flag system set up to let the waiter know a table needs service. That would help the consumer more rather than waiting for your waiter or even asking another waiter for something, like your check.
At least a few places (Outback and Red Robin come to mind) have kiosks at the table that allow you to view and pay your check without any involvement from the waiter(ress).
Friendly's does that as well.
Wow Friendlys and Fuddruckers references, both looonnng gone in NJ. Do they exist anywhere else now?
We have two Fuddruckers in Albuquerque. Love their burgers, and Wedge Fries with the Fry Sauce...
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Wow Friendlys and Fuddruckers references, both looonnng gone in NJ. Do they exist anywhere else now?
Assuming the "locations" page at the Fudds website is accurate, there are several dozen locations in the U.S. (with Texas having the most locations), Panama (3 "temporarily" closed locations), Mexico (one location), and Canada (Saskatoon and Regina).
AFAIK, Friendly's is a northeast thing. After my now-wife moved out her, the first time we went back east (outside Albany, NY), she insisted we had to go to Friendly's for a Reese's Pieces sundae, and we go every time we're in the area. When my daughter and I went to NYC and Boston in 2019, we stopped at the Friendly's in Mystic, CT. I've always found the food to be very "meh."
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Wow Friendlys and Fuddruckers references, both looonnng gone in NJ. Do they exist anywhere else now?
Assuming the "locations" page at the Fudds website is accurate, there are several dozen locations in the U.S. (with Texas having the most locations), Panama (3 "temporarily" closed locations), Mexico (one location), and Canada (Saskatoon and Regina).
AFAIK, Friendly's is a northeast thing. After my now-wife moved out her, the first time we went back east (outside Albany, NY), she insisted we had to go to Friendly's for a Reese's Pieces sundae, and we go every time we're in the area. When my daughter and I went to NYC and Boston in 2019, we stopped at the Friendly's in Mystic, CT. I've always found the food to be very "meh."
Oh, interesting. The only two I knew of are long gone. But I see on the website those are in northern NJ which makes sense then since I'm not typically in those areas.
And I've never seen Friendly's outside of NJ but there were a few locally so not surprised if that was a regional thing.
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All three of the Friendlys in my city have closed over the last 10 years or so. It's been devastating. The honey BBQ chicken super melt was my everything.
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There were two around me, and one closed, but one is still operating. Their headquarters is right over the border in Mass (I think Wilbraham). Their food is hit or miss, but their ice cream is still world class.
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People driving 10mph slower than the flow of traffic in the left lane on a 4 lane highway and just refusing to move over to let people pass >:(
Bonus points when they look over at you all pissed off when you finally pass them on the right after spending 15 minutes flashing your high beams at them to try to get them to move over.
A cop could still pull you over and ticket you for going with the "flow of traffic" if that's higher than the speed limit though. I agree though anyone not passing should be out of the leftmost lane.
ftfy
If you're driving over the speed limit but with the flow of traffic and not otherwise giving a cop any reason to single you out, you're not getting pulled over 99.9999% of the time.
Bullshit. I've been pulled over twice in the last five years for doing just that. I was maaaybe going 10mph over the posted speed limit. First time I got a parking ticket and second time I just got a warning, but you consistently go over the speed limit around where I like and you will get pulled over.
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So..
I hate flying. And when people ask, I always say, well, it's not the flying that bothers me, it's the crashing. As some of you know, I didn't step on a plane from 1999 to 2014, only to take that first trip to so my special needs son could see Big Ben. Since then, my family expects me to get on a plane for a long trip every summer. And I'm thankful because these trips have been wonderful.
Anyway, we have been pretty lucky as far as the whole flying experience. No bad weather, no major delays until...yesterday!
The had a 10:56am flight out of Phoenix on JetBlue to Boston, landing at 6:50pm EST time.
So we board the plane at 10:25. Cool. Around 11:05, the pilot makes an announcement that he is awaiting papers from dispatch in NY. A half hour later, he mentions that he is still waiting for his papers. He says that because of heat, terrain, and fuel considerations, they are trying to find the safest route to get us home. WUT?? We flew out of Phoenix 23 years ago and it was 115. It was only 100 yesterday. After another hour of sitting there, the pilot announces that the weather east of Chicago was the major factor. He mentioned that Newark was two and a half hours behind and that we were going to deplane indefinitely.
OK..so we get off the plane after sitting in it for two hours. I had lunch. Stadler, this is when you texted me. Anyway, we get back on the plane at 1:45, sit there a while more while the pilot crunches numbers around topping off the fuel (WTF??) and at 3:00pm, FOUR HOURS after our original departure time, we take off.
Now we know we're going to be flying through holes in the storm, and we landed around 10:45 in Boston right in the middle of two thunderstorms. Geez.
tl/dr
4 hour flight delay..
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awww... da poor baby. :biggrin:
I'm sure Bill, Marc, and I could inundate you with travel from hell stories.
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People driving 10mph slower than the flow of traffic in the left lane on a 4 lane highway and just refusing to move over to let people pass >:(
Bonus points when they look over at you all pissed off when you finally pass them on the right after spending 15 minutes flashing your high beams at them to try to get them to move over.
A cop could still pull you over and ticket you for going with the "flow of traffic" if that's higher than the speed limit though. I agree though anyone not passing should be out of the leftmost lane.
ftfy
If you're driving over the speed limit but with the flow of traffic and not otherwise giving a cop any reason to single you out, you're not getting pulled over 99.9999% of the time.
Bullshit. I've been pulled over twice in the last five years for doing just that. I was maaaybe going 10mph over the posted speed limit. First time I got a parking ticket and second time I just got a warning, but you consistently go over the speed limit around where I like and you will get pulled over.
Just because it happened to you doesn't make it bullshit. I didn't say it NEVER happens, and I put conditions on the statement. I'm also not sure how you can get a parking ticket for speeding. That makes no sense.
tl/dr
4 hour flight delay..
What's most annoying about stuff like this is the lack of communication. I don't profess to know what it takes to fly a 100 ton tube of people through the sky, but we've been doing it an awfully long time in every weather condition imaginable, so that sort of things really shouldn't happen.
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awww... da poor baby. :biggrin:
I'm sure Bill, Marc, and I could inundate you with travel from hell stories.
Oh I'm sure. I don't know how people travel for work. I couldn't do it. I take one flight a year and it's way more than enough for me.
It wasn't the delay so much for me that sucked, it was knowing we would be flying into weather in the east.
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So..
I hate flying. And when people ask, I always say, well, it's not the flying that bothers me, it's the crashing. As some of you know, I didn't step on a plane from 1999 to 2014, only to take that first trip to so my special needs son could see Big Ben. Since then, my family expects me to get on a plane for a long trip every summer. And I'm thankful because these trips have been wonderful.
Anyway, we have been pretty lucky as far as the whole flying experience. No bad weather, no major delays until...yesterday!
The had a 10:56am flight out of Phoenix on JetBlue to Boston, landing at 6:50pm EST time.
So we board the plane at 10:25. Cool. Around 11:05, the pilot makes an announcement that he is awaiting papers from dispatch in NY. A half hour later, he mentions that he is still waiting for his papers. He says that because of heat, terrain, and fuel considerations, they are trying to find the safest route to get us home. WUT?? We flew out of Phoenix 23 years ago and it was 115. It was only 100 yesterday. After another hour of sitting there, the pilot announces that the weather east of Chicago was the major factor. He mentioned that Newark was two and a half hours behind and that we were going to deplane indefinitely.
OK..so we get off the plane after sitting in it for two hours. I had lunch. Stadler, this is when you texted me. Anyway, we get back on the plane at 1:45, sit there a while more while the pilot crunches numbers around topping off the fuel (WTF??) and at 3:00pm, FOUR HOURS after our original departure time, we take off.
Now we know we're going to be flying through holes in the storm, and we landed around 10:45 in Boston right in the middle of two thunderstorms. Geez.
tl/dr
4 hour flight delay..
People tend to forget how much the weather affects flights. Especially here in New Mexico, where we are famous for our every season in a day weather.
We can predict weather but most times the weatherman is wrong and it rains hard or doesn't rain at all. It's why they predict based off monsoon season for the summer time, and basically expect storms to occur around this time. How bad it'll be, nobody knows until it comes thundering down and it creates a rush of water in our arroyos where people get swept away and they have to search for them.
What I don't like about flying is the turbulence, and knowing my luck a bird hitting the engine. :lol
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awww... da poor baby. :biggrin:
I'm sure Bill, Marc, and I could inundate you with travel from hell stories.
Oh I'm sure. I don't know how people travel for work. I couldn't do it. I take one flight a year and it's way more than enough for me.
It wasn't the delay so much for me that sucked, it was knowing we would be flying into weather in the east.
"Shitty flights" with family are not the same as "shitty flights" for work. I hate any delay when Im with my family, because trying to resolve accommodations for 4 or more people is a nightmare. Solo, its a little easier. The real bad work stories usually start with "so it's 1:00 am local time and I'm on a shuttle to a shitty hotel adjacent to the airport". Next time you're in Chicago or Atlanta, drive by the hotels adjacent to the airport and see what I mean.
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Bill, if they told us yesterday afternoon that the flight was cancelled, I would've been fine. You could fly out today under clear skies.
Oh and we just got an email that Jetblue is issuing a $50 travel credit. Fine with me.
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awww... da poor baby. :biggrin:
I'm sure Bill, Marc, and I could inundate you with travel from hell stories.
Pre pandemic my wife flew 45-50 weeks a year for 5 years and some of the stories she has told me were bananas. Tons of, "We need to jump start the engine" to aborted landings.
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I still remember fondly the time I was flying into Indianapolis in the dark, in the rain, and even though I was in the second to last seat, I looked out the window and was looking straight down the runway as we came in to land (that's how "sideways" the plane was).
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Wow, that's fucked. I'm all for stories.
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I hit a patch of turbulence over the rockies that was so bad, the flight attendants and crews buckled into the empty passenger seats instead of their jump seats. That one rattled my sphincter.
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I hit a patch of turbulence over the rockies that was so bad, the flight attendants and crews buckled into the empty passenger seats instead of their jump seats. That one rattled my sphincter.
I think the worst turbulence I've ever encountered has been on flights from Socal to Denver. The last 40 minutes suck. I figured out a long time ago that there's no reason for me to freak out if the pros aren't freaking out, so seeing the flight attendants get tweaked would be just awful.
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I'm a waiter in a restaurant for a busy Holiday Park and the attitude of " I pay to be here - I can be as rude and messy as I want so fuck you " is overwhelming.
The amount of times i've delivered food to a table and they've not even looked up or said thank you - is ridiculous.
Or - when we've been *fully booked* for an evening - and people are still like " why can't I have a table ? I've paid to stay here! ".
Fully booked is fully booked. Would you bang on the doors at 3am demanding a steak dinner cause " you've paid to be here " ?
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awww... da poor baby. :biggrin:
I'm sure Bill, Marc, and I could inundate you with travel from hell stories.
Oh I'm sure. I don't know how people travel for work. I couldn't do it. I take one flight a year and it's way more than enough for me.
It wasn't the delay so much for me that sucked, it was knowing we would be flying into weather in the east.
"Shitty flights" with family are not the same as "shitty flights" for work. I hate any delay when Im with my family, because trying to resolve accommodations for 4 or more people is a nightmare. Solo, its a little easier. The real bad work stories usually start with "so it's 1:00 am local time and I'm on a shuttle to a shitty hotel adjacent to the airport". Next time you're in Chicago or Atlanta, drive by the hotels adjacent to the airport and see what I mean.
For me, flight delays mean more money as I am on the clock while I business travel. Having said that, I'd rather no disruptions. I absolutely hate the delays and issues. Id rather not make the "easy money" and just get where I need to be. Also I'd probably rather the delays than terrible turbulence. I don't do well with roller coasters and I don't do well when the plane is shaking and dropping/rising non stop.
I've been having travel anxiety lately since I booked my LA work trip for next week. Like it's weird because I'm not really thinking about it much, but I must be subconsciously because I've had a re-occuring dream of missing my flight 3 times in the last couple weeks.
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awww... da poor baby. :biggrin:
I'm sure Bill, Marc, and I could inundate you with travel from hell stories.
Pre pandemic my wife flew 45-50 weeks a year for 5 years and some of the stories she has told me were bananas. Tons of, "We need to jump start the engine" to aborted landings.
Never gotten to experience an aborted landing. Something to look forward to. I've done a few sideways landings, though, and those are fun. Favorite was Expressway Visual approach into LGA. I'm on the port side so we're dipping way down towards the water with a hefty crosswind. Plane doesn't get leveled off until we're easily a third of the way down the runway, so I've got a great view looking down at the stripes. Lots of fun. I also flew into EWR with a nearly 30kt crosswind and decent precip. Lots of white-faced passengers on that one, but I thought it was a hoot.
That was the day of the Score show. Came in right at 1330.
12:51 PM 74 F 51 F 45 % WSW 20 mph 29 mph 29.65 in 0.0 in Mostly Cloudy
1:51 PM 65 F 51 F 61 % W 30 mph 40 mph 29.68 in 0.0 in Cloudy / Windy
Had a particularly turbulent flight from LHR to TXL. Shaking the whole way. As we're coming in for final everybody's clutching their seats and a woman up front starts hurling into a bag. One of those plucky British Airways flight attendants bounds her way from the back to the front to toss her a bottle of water basically covering four rows at a time alternating left and right seats. That was one devoted FA.
Making a point to fly into, and more importantly out of SNA when I head to San Diego next month. I've always wanted to do that noise abatement takeoff, and it seems like they've now made it even slightly harrier, with an added turn thrown into the mix. I have a few bucketlist flying items, and that takeoff is one of the big ones.
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My last flight to Florida for Christmas included an aborted landing. Definitely a bit nerve racking until the pilot came on shortly after and admitted to what happened and that nothing was actually wrong with the plane.
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My last flight to Florida for Christmas included an aborted landing. Definitely a bit nerve racking until the pilot came on shortly after and admitted to what happened and that nothing was actually wrong with the plane.
When I would commute to work a portion of my drive was this country road that ran alongside one of the runways of charlotte airport. One day I'm driving home, it's awful weather and really windy. I see this passenger jet coming in for a landing and it looked like it was getting tossed around and moved off the center line of the runaway. A few hundred feet from the tarmac the plane starts taking off and aborts the landing. To this day I've never heard an airplane make that kind of noise, I'm not sure if that was full thrust to the engines but it was insane. One of those days I really wish I had a dash cam.
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Making a point to fly into, and more importantly out of SNA when I head to San Diego next month. I've always wanted to do that noise abatement takeoff, and it seems like they've now made it even slightly harrier, with an added turn thrown into the mix. I have a few bucketlist flying items, and that takeoff is one of the big ones.
Compared to the other stuff you described, you won't be impressed. It's a bit of a nothingburger (and whether you get an early turn depends on your airline and destination).
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My last flight to Florida for Christmas included an aborted landing. Definitely a bit nerve racking until the pilot came on shortly after and admitted to what happened and that nothing was actually wrong with the plane.
When I would commute to work a portion of my drive was this country road that ran alongside one of the runways of charlotte airport. One day I'm driving home, it's awful weather and really windy. I see this passenger jet coming in for a landing and it looked like it was getting tossed around and moved off the center line of the runaway. A few hundred feet from the tarmac the plane starts taking off and aborts the landing. To this day I've never heard an airplane make that kind of noise, I'm not sure if that was full thrust to the engines but it was insane. One of those days I really wish I had a dash cam.
The sound of the engines right before landing was definitely alarming as well, but once that split second shock of the loud noise followed by an immediate shift up, I knew right away that we aborted the landing. I just didn't know why which was the longer concern for me. The pilot said we were coming in too fast and that while they could have made the landing, it wasn't worth the risk. Once that announcement was made, my nerves were fine other than just the the realization that this pilot wasted 20 minutes of my time by fucking up.
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Celebrity trends. This might be the worst one yet. Haven't we suffered enough?? FFS
https://www.celebitchy.com/727069/jake_gyllenhaal_more_and_more_i_find_bathing_to_be_less_necessary_at_times/
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Bill Maher has to be checking out DTF. :lol
(https://i.postimg.cc/c1M3cXkf/20210806-224558.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rzszVCkp)
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Celebrity trends. This might be the worst one yet. Haven't we suffered enough?? FFS
https://www.celebitchy.com/727069/jake_gyllenhaal_more_and_more_i_find_bathing_to_be_less_necessary_at_times/
I don't feel as though i'm awake until i've had my morning shower.
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When I was working from home fulltime for 16 months, I took a shower every other day to conserve water. I live in the desert southwest and this region is in extreme drought. Any kind of ideas for energy or water conservation is welcome around these parts. I guess it depends on what you do for a living and where. If you don't work outside sweating or come into contact with a bunch of filth and garbage, showering or bathing every day is overkill.
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When I was working from home fulltime for 16 months, I took a shower every other day to conserve water. I live in the desert southwest and this region is in extreme drought. Any kind of ideas for energy or water conservation is welcome around these parts. I guess it depends on what you do for a living and where. If you don't work outside sweating or come into contact with a bunch of filth and garbage, showering or bathing every day is overkill.
If I worked from home, I'd probably shower twice a week.
As it is now, I really only shower if it's time to shave.
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When I was working from home fulltime for 16 months, I took a shower every other day to conserve water. I live in the desert southwest and this region is in extreme drought. Any kind of ideas for energy or water conservation is welcome around these parts. I guess it depends on what you do for a living and where. If you don't work outside sweating or come into contact with a bunch of filth and garbage, showering or bathing every day is overkill.
If I worked from home, I'd probably shower twice a week.
As it is now, I really only shower if it's time to shave.
I hardly ever shave. Just trim the stache and goatee about once a week, so that wouldn't work for me. The longest I ever went without showering is 3 days while working from home. I think that's my limit and I only did that about once or twice maybe. :lol
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When did Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis become DTF members?
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When did Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis become DTF members?
It wasn't me.
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When did Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis become DTF members?
???
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The frequency in which I shower directly correlates to the likelihood of me getting laid on any given day.
I'm showering a lot these days :hat
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When did Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis become DTF members?
???
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/27/entertainment/ashton-kutcher-mila-kunis-bathing/index.html
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I think there's some truth to that, but everyone's different. I'm a greasy italian, if I don't wash daily, I look absolutely disgusting. Specifically my hair from my greasiness, but my face as well.
Even when I worked from home, I regularly showered everyday. I also just feel better afterwards and it's part of my morning routine.
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When did Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis become DTF members?
???
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/27/entertainment/ashton-kutcher-mila-kunis-bathing/index.html
Also known as the George Carlin approach. Pits, assholes, crotch and teeth.
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When did Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis become DTF members?
It wasn't me.
I see what you did there! (I hate that commercial, though).
I work from home, and have from well before COVID. Showering on any given day is a game-day decision. Having said that, I tend to shower every day for various reasons:
- I like it;
- I have a wife that I respect, and in front of whom I'd rather not smell;
- I do tend to do things after work that require exertion, so I feel better after showering;
- I hate to shave, but I hate to shave after not having shaved for a few days more, and I only shave after I shower;
- I want to set a good example for a stepson that if it was up to him would shower once a quarter.
The most I've ever gone under normal circumstances is skipping a day.
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I like others just don't feel right or awake if I don't shower everyday. However, when I was WFH during the pandemic I wasn't taking a shower until like 3:00 in the afternoon which was getting me off my game so I made a rule that I need to shower by 9:00am. I also shave everyday but I floss and shave while in the shower so all I have to do is dry off and exit the bathroom. The upstairs bathroom can be quite warm in the summer.
BTW - toothbrush and contacts are done before I get in the shower......I know - TMI....
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I guess I'm just blessed with not carrying BO around me - even after I workout... I can just slap some deoderant on and I'm fresh enough that I don't gross anyone out. Without hair to wash, I shower every other day at best... though I wash the odour producing spots daily.
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When did Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis become DTF members?
???
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/27/entertainment/ashton-kutcher-mila-kunis-bathing/index.html
Also known as the George Carlin approach. Pits, assholes, crotch and teeth.
Be sure to use the same brush on all 4 areas. Not necessarily in that order. :lol
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I gotta shower before bed every night. In the summer I usually sweat pretty bad giving my dog it's last walk of the night but even in the winter time I just need to do. I don't know what it is but I feel dirty (not in a good way) getting into bed unshowered.
I'm a little peeved, my phone, galaxy s21+, got the black screen of death today. It's under warranty but still annoying I'm going to be without my phone for a day.
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You know what I fucking hate? The commercials for Nurx.
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You know what I fucking hate? The commercials for Nurx.
Never heard of that and, AFAIK, I've never seen a commercial for it.
The commercials I hate are pretty much every Apple commercial. They seem to select the most obnoxious music they can find.
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You know what I fucking hate? The commercials for Nurx.
Never heard of that and, AFAIK, I've never seen a commercial for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4zPgdz10v0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOBhFm5DamM
There's a new one that's not on Youtube where some dude has something and he's staring down his pants. WTF??
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So I got the new Twisted Sister "Metal Meltdown" (the Vegas show with Portnoy).
The CD has as quick fade in and out between EACH SONG, even the ones that blend together (like Shoot 'Em Down and You Can't Stop Rock And Roll). So I'm figuring, no harm no foul, I'll just take the audio from the DVD/Blu-ray.
Nope. In between many (though not all) of the songs they cut to quick interviews with the band or people from the past.
Every interview seems to have to sneak in "TS is the best live band on the fucking planet!" and while they are REALLY good live, you'd never know it when the momentum of every song is shot to hell with a fade or a cut to some douche record executive.
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That sounds really annoying
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It is. And it's a shame, because the show is good! Mike nails it, and Dee sounds as good as ever. Couple songs tuned down, but there are a LOT of singers that wish their voice held up like Dee Snider's.
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You know what I fucking hate? The commercials for Nurx.
Never heard of that and, AFAIK, I've never seen a commercial for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4zPgdz10v0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOBhFm5DamM
There's a new one that's not on Youtube where some dude has something and he's staring down his pants. WTF??
You'll understand if I don't actually watch those. :)
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So I've been applying to various jobs over the last month. Haven't heard back from anything but the Amazon DSPs (Delivery Service Partners, who are the various companies Amazon contracts for their Prime Deliveries. I know working at a DSP will suck, but it's a Plan B if I can't find anything else soon.
Well... 3 / 4 of the DSPs have reached out to me via a random text. The last sent me an email. Is it wrong or just old fashion of me that I find it rather annoying that they're texting me and not emailing / calling me? Just received a text from a random number IDing themselves as so and so from X place I applied to asking if I want to interview tomorrow.
It just seems strange to me. When I was hiring people, I'd call, and if they don't answer, leave a voice mail and follow up with an email. The only time I'd text them would be after initial contact, usually to give them the address or to confirm time or what not.
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Amazon is about efficiency above all else. Texting is the most efficient (and cheapest) method of reaching out to large swaths of people.
The future is now, old man!
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I responded like 15 minutes later, telling them yes and asked if it were possible to do in the AM... As I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow afternoon
No response.
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While I don't find it entirely professional, I think Chino's point is kind of valid here. Amazon is a well oiled machine, my guess is they have a system for doing this and it's not about being professional but about using the least amount of time and resources to get what they are trying to. It's quite possible they sent out tons of those texts in automation.
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In early 2020 I (foolishly) agreed to become president of my daughter's high school band boosters (I guess it wouldn't have been foolish if we hadn't had COVID and if the band director didn't resign to take a job closer to home, but that's a different story). We have about a dozen board members/officers, so I'm constantly fielding emails about various things, including buying things.
One of the officers has been working on a relatively small purchase and, at 2:05 this afternoon, sent me an email about it. Cool. However, at 2:07 this afternoon, she sent me a text that said, "Hi Paul, I sent you an email regarding the [thing]."
WHY DO PEOPLE FUCKING DO THIS?! Maybe if I had ignored the email for a few days, it would make sense to follow up with a text, but I fucking don't need a text that says nothing more than, "hey...I just sent you an email." Especially since this is the first time in nearly two weeks that she's communicated with me about this. Seriously?!
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Normally i am 100% with you on this. But I have a good friend who "doesn't check his email*." One time I sent him a note where I shared some important thoughts, though it didn't necessitate a response. A week later without hearing from him (not a concern, we can go weeks without communicating) I sent him a text saying I hope he got my email. He apologized, said he didn't see it, it must have gotten lost among the hundreds of emails gets a day. I was a little put-off that I sent a note that was important for me to communicate, but apparently my emails didn't rate high enough to avoid being overlooked. I told him I wouldn't use email to communicate with him any longer.
*this seems to be a thing nowadays. My wife will say randomly "I I haven't checked my email in a while..." and I think "well I hope there isn't anything important there..." and then I think "why do you even have it then?" I know email isn't like an answering machine in 1995, where you come home and see the blinking light letting you know you have a new message. When I have new email, I get a notification on my phone. When appropriate, I look to see what it is, and if it requires attention. Is that passé in 2021?
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Normally i am 100% with you on this. But I have a good friend who "doesn't check his email*." One time I sent him a note where I shared some important thoughts, though it didn't necessitate a response. A week later without hearing from him (not a concern, we can go weeks without communicating) I sent him a text saying I hope he got my email. He apologized, said he didn't see it, it must have gotten lost among the hundreds of emails gets a day. I was a little put-off that I sent a note that was important for me to communicate, but apparently my emails didn't rate high enough to avoid being overlooked. I told him I wouldn't use email to communicate with him any longer.
*this seems to be a thing nowadays. My wife will say randomly "I I haven't checked my email in a while..." and I think "well I hope there isn't anything important there..." and then I think "why do you even have it then?" I know email isn't like an answering machine in 1995, where you come home and see the blinking light letting you know you have a new message. When I have new email, I get a notification on my phone. When appropriate, I look to see what it is, and if it requires attention. Is that passé in 2021?
I have a Yahoo addy that I use when I sign up for anything, so it's 90% spam. I only check that if I know there's something there I need. Usually a shipping notice or an invoice. My home and work are only work and friend stuff, and I check them religiously. Maybe 10 people know my real home email address. I also have another Yahoo address that I use for traveling, which I only give out as needed. The trick is to separate your email between people you want to hear from and people you want to ignore. Friends are never ignored.
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Same here. I have a secondary address for all non-critical forms, communication, and registrations. I have everything forwarded from there to my main account, though it dumps in to a separate folder, so I don't lose track of it, while not cluttering my primary Inbox.
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Normally i am 100% with you on this. But I have a good friend who "doesn't check his email*." One time I sent him a note where I shared some important thoughts, though it didn't necessitate a response. A week later without hearing from him (not a concern, we can go weeks without communicating) I sent him a text saying I hope he got my email. He apologized, said he didn't see it, it must have gotten lost among the hundreds of emails gets a day. I was a little put-off that I sent a note that was important for me to communicate, but apparently my emails didn't rate high enough to avoid being overlooked. I told him I wouldn't use email to communicate with him any longer.
*this seems to be a thing nowadays. My wife will say randomly "I I haven't checked my email in a while..." and I think "well I hope there isn't anything important there..." and then I think "why do you even have it then?" I know email isn't like an answering machine in 1995, where you come home and see the blinking light letting you know you have a new message. When I have new email, I get a notification on my phone. When appropriate, I look to see what it is, and if it requires attention. Is that passé in 2021?
I have five email addresses: (1) work email; (2) personal email; (3) band booster president email; (4/5) alternate personal emails. #1 is always open on my desktop at work and gets checked constantly while I'm in the office. It's also on my phone and gets checked at least every other hour, except on weekends (unless something is expected to come up over the weekend). #2 & #3 are checked multiple times per day. #4 is where all the crap goes when I have to input an email address but don't want to input the real one. I check it and clear it out maybe once every two months. #5 was made in anticipation of losing my primary personal email, but it never happened. There are a couple things parked there permanently, but I haven't looked at it in months and am not sure I remember the password I used. No one whom I care to hear from uses or even has #4 & #5.
Like I said, if someone sends me something and doesn't get a response in a reasonable time, then yeah...shoot me a text. But sending a text TWO MINUTES after sending the email for no purpose other than to say, "I sent you an email," is obnoxious.
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We should all respond to Paul’s post and then PM him that we responded! ;D
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You're going to palm-mute me?! :biggrin:
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" A light went off in my head "
Surely it went on ? :hat
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YouTube videos when you're just browsing for something to watch and the endless " Omg this driver did WHAT?! " or " Olympic swimmer REACTS to people playing in a paddling pool "
and it's always some guy doing the OMG face in the thumbnail :o < - - -
And they're always padded the fuck out to over ten minutes because they get more ads and therefore more money.
I saw one the other day " How does a submarine resurface? "
It was FORTY FIVE MINUTES LONG. 45 minutes just to say " they fill the tanks with air ".
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YouTube videos when you're just browsing for something to watch and the endless " Omg this driver did WHAT?! " or " Olympic swimmer REACTS to people playing in a paddling pool "
and it's always some guy doing the OMG face in the thumbnail :o < - - -
And they're always padded the fuck out to over ten minutes because they get more ads and therefore more money.
I saw one the other day " How does a submarine resurface? "
It was FORTY FIVE MINUTES LONG. 45 minutes just to say " they fill the tanks with air ".
If you're referring to this video and your only takeaway was "they fill the tanks with air", then you went into it looking to bitch and not actually to learn anything. I watched it a few weeks ago and it was fantastic. What you're saying would be akin to some watching a heart transplant video and saying "It was 45 minutes just to say 'they take the heart out and put a new one in' "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFJnWp1tAdU
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YouTube videos when you're just browsing for something to watch and the endless " Omg this driver did WHAT?! " or " Olympic swimmer REACTS to people playing in a paddling pool "
and it's always some guy doing the OMG face in the thumbnail :o < - - -
And they're always padded the fuck out to over ten minutes because they get more ads and therefore more money.
I used to have similar thoughts on it, looking into a bit more many channels turn to those clickbait thumbnails and titles with very long videos because of the way YouTube changed the monetization model. Now it's fine if you are just a casual viewer like me. For those who rely on it as their main source of income, you have to resort to those tactics to maximize your reach and revenue.
Many of the youtubers I follow don't like doing it but that's what drives up viewership.
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On a similar line: I kept seeing this link that said "next time you travel, put a crayon in your wallet; you'll never believe why!"
So, since I travel, I decided I'd give this a whirl. The link goes to 31 "live hacks" that will help you to a better life or some shit. First, every other hack was legit, but the ones in between were ads for "products". "Buying shit" is not a "life hack". Second, I made it through all 31, and... NO CRAYON. WTF? I get waiting until the end, that's how you get clicks, but to not even share the tagline, that's a blasphemy! There ought to be a LAW!
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On a similar line: I kept seeing this link that said "next time you travel, put a crayon in your wallet; you'll never believe why!"
So, since I travel, I decided I'd give this a whirl. The link goes to 31 "live hacks" that will help you to a better life or some shit. First, every other hack was legit, but the ones in between were ads for "products". "Buying shit" is not a "life hack". Second, I made it through all 31, and... NO CRAYON. WTF? I get waiting until the end, that's how you get clicks, but to not even share the tagline, that's a blasphemy! There ought to be a LAW!
Yup. I avoid those things. And then I'll just search for "crayon in wallet" and see what I could find about it.
And this is what I found....
https://www.distractify.com/p/why-put-a-crayon-in-your-wallet-while-traveling
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Also when did hack start to mean "advice" ?
Hacking means reprogramming a computer to gain entrance to something confidential.
Not sucking on a sweet when you take off in a plane.
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Re: Things I find a tad exasperating v.3
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Almost as if it's a thread specifically to talk about things that you find irritating.
Fucks sake it's not like this a thread called " The best YouTube videos on the web " and I just came in here to type " Fuck You Tube ".
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On a similar line: I kept seeing this link that said "next time you travel, put a crayon in your wallet; you'll never believe why!"
So, since I travel, I decided I'd give this a whirl. The link goes to 31 "live hacks" that will help you to a better life or some shit. First, every other hack was legit, but the ones in between were ads for "products". "Buying shit" is not a "life hack". Second, I made it through all 31, and... NO CRAYON. WTF? I get waiting until the end, that's how you get clicks, but to not even share the tagline, that's a blasphemy! There ought to be a LAW!
Yup. I avoid those things. And then I'll just search for "crayon in wallet" and see what I could find about it.
And this is what I found....
https://www.distractify.com/p/why-put-a-crayon-in-your-wallet-while-traveling
VERY anticlimactic, but thank you!
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On a similar line: I kept seeing this link that said "next time you travel, put a crayon in your wallet; you'll never believe why!"
So, since I travel, I decided I'd give this a whirl. The link goes to 31 "live hacks" that will help you to a better life or some shit. First, every other hack was legit, but the ones in between were ads for "products". "Buying shit" is not a "life hack". Second, I made it through all 31, and... NO CRAYON. WTF? I get waiting until the end, that's how you get clicks, but to not even share the tagline, that's a blasphemy! There ought to be a LAW!
Yup. I avoid those things. And then I'll just search for "crayon in wallet" and see what I could find about it.
And this is what I found....
https://www.distractify.com/p/why-put-a-crayon-in-your-wallet-while-traveling
VERY anticlimactic, but thank you!
I know right. Most of these lists are so exaggerated and hyped that there is no climax. It's like oh, that's all, pssh, just put pens or pencils in a small plastic baggy and that saves you leakage issues. :lol
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YouTube videos when you're just browsing for something to watch and the endless " Omg this driver did WHAT?! " or " Olympic swimmer REACTS to people playing in a paddling pool "
and it's always some guy doing the OMG face in the thumbnail
Well...two things here...
Those videos don't get into your suggested watch videos by accident. They're there because you watch stuff like that. Also, you know...browsing YouTube videos just to find something to watch... :)
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I saw a thing on tiktok about how a lot of those tag lines actually bait people to watch. It's effective apparently even though I don't personally like it either because it's so trendy when everyone does it. It loses the effect and often I just click away if the video doesn't get to the point in the first 10 seconds. I'm not falling for the bait to get you view time.
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YouTube videos when you're just browsing for something to watch and the endless " Omg this driver did WHAT?! " or " Olympic swimmer REACTS to people playing in a paddling pool "
and it's always some guy doing the OMG face in the thumbnail
Well...two things here...
Those videos don't get into your suggested watch videos by accident. They're there because you watch stuff like that. Also, you know...browsing YouTube videos just to find something to watch... :)
Those were just examples of videos that are either 20 mins long for no reason other than to get more ads. Or people over reacting to something mundane.
Not " Fuck I hate submarines. "
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Also, you know...browsing YouTube videos just to find something to watch... :)
I do this all the time :)
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Also, you know...browsing YouTube videos just to find something to watch... :)
I do this all the time :)
The wife went to sleep. I'm doing this now. :lol
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My morning routine is - go to the local sandwich shop at like 10am for a latte and a sausage/omelette bun - essentially they're McD's EggMcMuffin without the cheese.
Then sit on my sofa and browse youtube for something to watch whilst I enjoy my breakfast.
Or - come home form work at like 2300 - get into my indoor clothes and collapse on my sofa and try to find something to watch before bed.
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I do some contract work for a few local banks and I’ve noticed that about 85% of women drivers cannot gauge how to pull up to the ATM close enough and have to open their doors. Always funny. Not so funny is when they are usually in the wrong lane when going slowly up a hill. :angry:
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Amazon's increasingly bad record with music releases.
Pre-ordered the new Jinjer record 2 months ago. Was supposed to be released 9/3. I get an email that day saying they aren't sure they can get it and do I want to cancel. Are you kidding me? Ended up getting it from their Bandcamp for now as it is uncompressed.
Pre-ordered the new Umphrey's album even longer ago then the Jinjer record. Got the same email from Amazon.
Neither record is even up for sale now at Amazon. No idea what they are doing.
Pre-ordered the Act of Denial album. Got an email that it won't arrive on time and will be at least a week or more late. At least they didn't send me a cancellation email like the other 2.
This is becoming a more frequent issue. I have a few other records on pre-order and they can't even give me a date. Just says they'll let me know when they know. Really aren't a lot of options out there left for physical releases either.
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I always buy singles from iTunes to support the band somewhat - also bands don't really do CD singles anymore...
So I was looking at In The Court Of The Dragon by Trivium on iTunes and since i've already bought the two songs off it -
- the remainder of the album is only £4. Very tempting. I buy albums form iTunes once in a blue moon but I might just buy it on iTunes
and get the CD at a later date. The only time I ever buy albums on iTunes is when it's dirt cheap to "...complete my album. "
Or the CD version has shit packaging like most Foo Fighters albums now where its like a CD thrown in a birthday card. :facepalm:
Guys you're the fucking Foo Fighters. You can afford decent CD packaging. Or is this another one of your gimmicks DAVE.
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Medicine At Midnight was not bad - but these days - it does seem like Dave Grohl thinks up a gimmick and they work an album around that instead
of trying to make a GREAT album first and foremost.
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I think the drop in packaging quality is due to people's lack of interest in physical media...
Which is ironic, because the drop in packaging quality really turns me off from physical media.
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Yes a well packaged CD is a bonus in my opinion. Those awful CD in a birthday card type albums are a big NO NO.
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I don't understand fake balconies on houses. Why not have a door there instead of a window and enjoy the balcony?
(https://cdn.decorpad.com/photos/2019/07/29/white-colonial-home-with-black-shutters.jpg)
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HAHA, there's a house in Enfield that is the opposite; it's a door but there's no balcony there! I don't get over there much but if I do I'll try to take a picture.
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I don't understand fake balconies on houses. Why not have a door there instead of a window and enjoy the balcony?
Surely there’s a joke in here somewhere…
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Bags in boxes of cereal.
Some of them open nice and easy, but others...no matter how careful you are, the margin between "not enough force to open the seal" and "rip the damn bag to shred so that there's no way to fold it closed in a way that keeps the contents from going stale" is virtually non-existent. WHY in the name of all that is holy does cereal not come in bags that have a zip-lock type closure?!
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Bags in boxes of cereal.
Some of them open nice and easy, but others...no matter how careful you are, the margin between "not enough force to open the seal" and "rip the damn bag to shred so that there's no way to fold it closed in a way that keeps the contents from going stale" is virtually non-existent. WHY in the name of all that is holy does cereal not come in bags that have a zip-lock type closure?!
Cost.
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Use scissors
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I don't understand fake balconies on houses. Why not have a door there instead of a window and enjoy the balcony?
Surely there’s a joke in here somewhere…
:rollin
funny though, the house I grew up in had something similar to that picture and I NEVER understood why.
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I don't understand fake balconies on houses. Why not have a door there instead of a window and enjoy the balcony?
Surely there’s a joke in here somewhere…
:lol
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So... I'm a nervous pisser. It takes a lot of... Prep... To piss in a cup.
I'm sitting in the waiting room of an shitty little occupation health urgent care waiting to take my preemployment piss test.
I drank a much larger than normal amount of water last night and this morning. Made sure I had to go before I left the house. Had to piss when I got here.
Now I've been sitting here for 20+ minutes... It's gone :lol
The last 2 piss tests had me in there with the cup within 5 min of signing in.
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I've had to get naked for a doc before. It didn't bother me. I'd rather get my junk out for a doctor than lay in bed every night wondering what that bump is. :o
Everyone knows it feels nice to wear as little as possible outside. I wish I didn't have to wear shoes outdoors. I do cause I don't wanna tread in ALL the dog shit.
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Anyone else have that thing where - you have some amazing and exciting news...
So you write about it on Twitter or whatever - and you text everyone you think would also be happy about it..
...And you *literally* get ZERO replies. Not. One.
Then your excitement just f-ing vanishes.
Then you see one of the people you texted in person and they're like " yeah I saw. . . "
My Dad is like that. I'll text him a question and he won't reply - he'll just tell me the next time he sees me in person. :yeahright
And his work pays for his phone so it's not like he's saving money.
It's true that the more "connected" we are - the harder it is to actually get an answer from someone. . . . . .inb4 It's because everyone hates you and is avoiding you.
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I'll never understand people who answer their phones only to say, "I can't talk now." >:(
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I'll never understand people who answer their phones only to say, "I can't talk now." >:(
My wife does a variation of that all the damn time. And gets upset with me that I called...like I knew that she was busy.
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I'll never understand people who answer their phones only to say, "I can't talk now." >:(
My wife does a variation of that all the damn time. And gets upset with me that I called...like I knew that she was busy.
Well.... since that happened to me this morning, and I was the one that answered, I can only say "the lesser of two evils". If I didn't answer it'd be all "where were you? What were you doing?" So I answered. But I couldn't talk - I was seeing a man about a horse - and dodged the missile in favor of the bullet.
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You were “seeing a man about a horse”? :lol
I’ll have to try that one with my wife. :lol
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You were “seeing a man about a horse”? :lol
I’ll have to try that one with my wife. :lol
I want a picture of your wife's face as you say that. :lol
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See a man about a horse. Haven't heard that in a while! :lol
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See a man about a horse. Haven't heard that in a while! :lol
Fogey humour.
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"Cheers", man. The Thanksgiving episode. Classic Sam Malone.
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Oh..is that a reference? Stadler's not actually seeing a man about a horse?
What about this horse?
(https://www.chapmanvalleyhorseriding.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/HalloweenHorses-1-e1467283999699.jpg)
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It means going to the bathroom (or anything else you don't really want to reveal). Sam excused himself from the Thanksgiving table by saying "Somebody save me a seat. I got to see a man about a horse."
I like the horse, though!
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I watched some Cheers back in the day, but I must've missed that one.
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I watched some Cheers back in the day, but I must've missed that one.
I had a roommate in college who would watch the Bruins, Cheers (both on Channel 38 out of Boston) or pron. I can recite you entire episodes of Cheers. "DNA: Dames Are Not Agressive!".
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I never really loved Cheers. Seen plenty of it though.
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HAHA, there's a house in Enfield that is the opposite; it's a door but there's no balcony there! I don't get over there much but if I do I'll try to take a picture.
Apartments across from me have some of those (there are like 27 different floorplans). It's a door, and the railing from a balcony just to make sure somebody doesn't actually try and go out the door. :lol
Look at the ones on the left, then the ones on the right: Stupidly long link (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8491582,-96.765432,3a,19.4y,0.16h,118.07t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1szpq86d8v5vbSn0H52PsfNw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Dzpq86d8v5vbSn0H52PsfNw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D92.73435%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
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"Cheers", man. The Thanksgiving episode. Classic Sam Malone.
Sam's greatest moment was in an episode called Dinner at Eight-ish." Frasier and Lilith have Sam and Dianne over as the first guests at their new home together. Throughout the evening Frasier, Lilith, and Diane all freak out about various things, and Sam never once loses his calm and collected demeanor. Absolutely nothing can phase the guy. Unflappable is a wonderful quality that not enough people possess. Too many people can't tolerate awkward situations even when they're but observers to the intrigue. Consider one of Seinfeld's funniest moments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjKpPerVuU0
Jerry and George leave just as things are turning interesting. Gotta learn to be a passive observer for the sake of entertainment, or if nothing else, morbid curiosity.
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HAHA, there's a house in Enfield that is the opposite; it's a door but there's no balcony there! I don't get over there much but if I do I'll try to take a picture.
Apartments across from me have some of those (there are like 27 different floorplans). It's a door, and the railing from a balcony just to make sure somebody doesn't actually try and go out the door. :lol
Look at the ones on the left, then the ones on the right: Stupidly long link (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8491582,-96.765432,3a,19.4y,0.16h,118.07t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1szpq86d8v5vbSn0H52PsfNw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Dzpq86d8v5vbSn0H52PsfNw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D92.73435%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
HAHAHA that made me blink a couple times. I can sort of see why they did that; it would look stupid otherwise.
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I never really loved Cheers. Seen plenty of it though.
WHAT?!? :) :)
I love the episode where Sam proposes to Diane in the office, and she says no, but because she wants something more romantic. So he takes her to dinner, rents out a boat in the harbor, gets down on one knee and proposes... and she says no. :)
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HAHA, there's a house in Enfield that is the opposite; it's a door but there's no balcony there! I don't get over there much but if I do I'll try to take a picture.
Apartments across from me have some of those (there are like 27 different floorplans). It's a door, and the railing from a balcony just to make sure somebody doesn't actually try and go out the door. :lol
Look at the ones on the left, then the ones on the right: Stupidly long link (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8491582,-96.765432,3a,19.4y,0.16h,118.07t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1szpq86d8v5vbSn0H52PsfNw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Dzpq86d8v5vbSn0H52PsfNw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D92.73435%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
HAHAHA that made me blink a couple times. I can sort of see why they did that; it would look stupid otherwise.
It's a textbook example of capitalism at its finest. In terms of cost, adding balconies to those units would have been essentially nothing. In fact, taking planning and design into consideration, it may have actually cost a little bit more to exclude them. Yet it was necessary for them to have units of differing value. Gotta have entry level and premium options. My hunch is that both the balcony and non-balcony units also come with or without stainless steel appliances. Gotta muddy the waters to prevent comparative shopping. Those four units (plus the two below them) probably represent 6 different pricing models featuring various amounts of manufactured value.
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When people "like" my text message.
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When people "like" my text message.
:tup
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Dick.
:p
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Dick.
:p
:yarr
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When people "like" my text message.
I love this feature tbh
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I feel like this feature may be different based on phone? I get a seperate message saying "so and so" like your message which is stupid and annoying af. If it were just like a thumbs up icon in the text like you see on social media, I wouldn't care. I'm guessing maybe it is this way for iphone users and not for android?
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When people "like" my text message.
I love this feature tbh
Me too. It gives you the option of indicating to the other person that you actually looked at it without actually needing to type something in response.
What I don't like is when you're on a group chat and someone "likes" a text and it broadcasts back to everyone on the chat that so-and-so "liked the text" and then quotes the text that was liked.
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I feel like this feature may be different based on phone? I get a seperate message saying "so and so" like your message which is stupid and annoying af. If it were just like a thumbs up icon in the text like you see on social media, I wouldn't care. I'm guessing maybe it is this way for iphone users and not for android?
I'm pretty sure that's how it is - I have an android phone and certain people will "like" my text messages. I assumed it was an iphone thing.
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You can "like" texts on iPhone too. It's called Tapbacks. You can do thumbs up or hearts or !! or ?? or HAHA.
Basically replying without actually replying.
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I hate when my cousin gives me the "Thumbs up" on Messenger. Can't muscle a few letters together? Especially when he's a Grammar Nazi.
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I'm really not understanding the hate here. It's nothing personal if I just send back a thumbs up. It's one of my most commonly used emojis.
My dad texts me "I'll be at your house at 5:15 for golf" (We have some sort of exchange like this every Friday night).
What does it matter which of the following get's used?
- "K"
- "ok"
- "okay"
- "👍"
- "Cool"
- "Alright"
- "Sounds good"
- "Sure"
The point is to convey to the other party that the message was received and there are no objections. Mission accomplished.
I have dialogs like this many times a week. We're texting to begin with. It's already agreed upon by society that formality is optional in like 99% of contexts. When my oldest buddy says "swing by anytime after 7:30 this Friday", I'm not going to reply "Sounds great, Matt. Thanks! Looking forward to hanging!". I just send a "👍". I won't speak to him again until days later when I'm leaving and send the "Need anything from the packy?" text. It's a great system. I like to limit my texting.
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I don't have any issue with the above example. I use the thumbs up emoji a lot to acknowledge a message that I don't really have anything else to add.
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I don't have any issue with the above example. I use the thumbs up emoji a lot to acknowledge a message that I don't really have anything else to add.
But that's not every time like my cousin does to me.
I giggle too when I post something and everyone else laughs and my cousin gives me the thumbs up. He's allergic to the laugh emoji.
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What's worse is i'll text my bro some good news i've had.
Then a week later I literally get " (: "
Then he tells me all his news instead. Great lets talk all about you.
It's like he replies the absolute bare minimum to feign interest and then blabs on and on about how great HIS business is going.
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I'm really not understanding the hate here. It's nothing personal if I just send back a thumbs up. It's one of my most commonly used emojis.
My dad texts me "I'll be at your house at 5:15 for golf" (We have some sort of exchange like this every Friday night).
What does it matter which of the following get's used?
- "K"
- "ok"
- "okay"
- "👍"
- "Cool"
- "Alright"
- "Sounds good"
- "Sure"
The point is to convey to the other party that the message was received and there are no objections. Mission accomplished.
I have dialogs like this many times a week. We're texting to begin with. It's already agreed upon by society that formality is optional in like 99% of contexts. When my oldest buddy says "swing by anytime after 7:30 this Friday", I'm not going to reply "Sounds great, Matt. Thanks! Looking forward to hanging!". I just send a "👍". I won't speak to him again until days later when I'm leaving and send the "Need anything from the packy?" text. It's a great system. I like to limit my texting.
:tup
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It isn't the quick one-work text, ok, emoji, thumbs up, I don't mind those at all. I get that this is my issue, there is just something so impersonal about getting a response to a text saying the recipient "liked" your message.
What set me off on writing this was a neighbor texted me asking when my kid's birthday party was. I typed "2 o'clock" then put my phone in my pocket and resumed what I was doing. A minute later my phone beeped so I pulled it out and saw that neighbor "liked" my message. Whatever. Back in the pocket, back to work. Another minute later, another beep, so I take it out again and see a message from her "thanks for letting me know." What the crap is that about? You had to "like" my message, and then respond to it in a separate text?
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I seriously didn't know you could like a text. I have a Samsung Android though.
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People who use "bois" instead of "boys".
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People who use "bois" instead of "boys".
No worse than “boyz”.
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People who use "bois" instead of "boys".
No worse than “boyz”.
I with you on both, though. I don't get it. Is it cool to be dumb? Is that the angle? Or too cool for (grammar) rules?
Then again, I don't get the whole "text" language. Is the idea "2 B in B4 ur an idiot?"
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People who use "bois" instead of "boys".
No worse than “boyz”.
I with you on both, though. I don't get it. Is it cool to be dumb? Is that the angle? Or too cool for (grammar) rules?
Then again, I don't get the whole "text" language. Is the idea "2 B in B4 ur an idiot?"
Yup. SMH my BFF.
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Text speak is hilarious to take the piss out of.
I don't think anyone aged 30 or above should use "lol". You just sound like a caveman. As someone now will do because people can't help themselves.
Like - on twitter when you're trying to make a well thought out point and someone replies with a GIF and that's supposed to prove me wrong or something.
Then - the next step is you say you dislike people replying with GIFs cause it stops the conversation DEAD. ***
And - someone replies with a GIF. 100% every time like they're the first person to do so and it's so hilarious.
And now someone will reply here with a GIF. not in a " well you did ask for it way " but more in a " i literally cant help myself " way.
Because you cannot help yourself. You HAVE to.
Yes. YOU. Reading this. You're looking for the GIF right now.
*** It's the same line of thinking as "funny" birthday cards. It's like ' I didn't make this or think of the joke - I just signed it cause I have no imagination ".
My brother and I get each other completely stupid birthday cards which actually will make each other laugh.
Like " Birthday Girl !" with a " I AM 5" Badge. Jus stupid childish stuff. NOT " LOL i bought this card cause it says DICKS on it "
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Selfish drivers in New York (and I'm sure many other places). The amount of times I've seen drivers completely avoid traffic, illegally, and then push their way ahead at the end of it, thus causing more traffic for everyone else, is staggering. Nothing I can do about it so I tend to just watch, but it's more sad than anything else I guess.
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Selfish drivers in New York (and I'm sure many other places). The amount of times I've seen drivers completely avoid traffic, illegally, and then push their way ahead at the end of it, thus causing more traffic for everyone else, is staggering. Nothing I can do about it so I tend to just watch, but it's more sad than anything else I guess.
The NY drivers I see in NJ are the worst.
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warflwwcesfw.
That's meme-speak for "We are really f*****g lazy when we can't eve say full words".
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Selfish drivers in New York (and I'm sure many other places). The amount of times I've seen drivers completely avoid traffic, illegally, and then push their way ahead at the end of it, thus causing more traffic for everyone else, is staggering. Nothing I can do about it so I tend to just watch, but it's more sad than anything else I guess.
The NY drivers I see in NJ are the worst.
The NJ drivers I see in NY are the worst. :rollin
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How do you guys define bad drivers? Bad as in they don't follow the rules of the road, or bad as in they're actually terrible at the act of driving?
In CT, I feel like we're good drivers for the most part, but we're terrible at following the laws.
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How do you guys define bad drivers? Bad as in they don't follow the rules of the road, or bad as in they're actually terrible at the act of driving?
In CT, I feel like we're good drivers for the most part, but we're terrible at following the laws.
Both. If you don't follow the laws and are driving poorly, you are a bad driver IMO. NYers tend to stick in the left lane and never move over even if they aren't passing anyone. They also cut you off and then drive slow :lol I know Im grouping all NYers together, but it's so consistent. My NY coworker even agrees with me. When we drive to lunch together that it's always the NYers causing issues.
Selfish drivers in New York (and I'm sure many other places). The amount of times I've seen drivers completely avoid traffic, illegally, and then push their way ahead at the end of it, thus causing more traffic for everyone else, is staggering. Nothing I can do about it so I tend to just watch, but it's more sad than anything else I guess.
The NY drivers I see in NJ are the worst.
The NJ drivers I see in NY are the worst. :rollin
:lol
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How do you guys define bad drivers? Bad as in they don't follow the rules of the road, or bad as in they're actually terrible at the act of driving?
In CT, I feel like we're good drivers for the most part, but we're terrible at following the laws.
I am not sure. When I specifically speak of it, this time at least, I'm speaking more of really selfish drivers. The kind that gladly cut off a whole long row of traffic because they didn't feel like waiting in it like everyone else. The kind who will block a whole lane of traffic to switch lanes right before an exit and there's no room (again, cause they didn't feel like waiting) or the kind who stop to double park, or turn, but don't indicate or signal and thus I have no idea what they're doing or why they're slowing down/stopping out of nowhere.
Sometimes it's really not malicious, but it happens SO often that it can't always be an accident or innocent.
Also Cram is totally right on the idea of NY drivers going slow in the left lane and rarely moving over for anyone and also cutting you off (constantly) and going slowly.
I never let it make a worse driver though. I never try to match them for tit for tat. I still signal when I switch lanes/turn, I won't completely circumvent traffic, thus causing everyone else to wait even longer, etc. Though I will drive slowly in the left hand lane if I think Cram is behind me.
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Selfish drivers in New York (and I'm sure many other places). The amount of times I've seen drivers completely avoid traffic, illegally, and then push their way ahead at the end of it, thus causing more traffic for everyone else, is staggering. Nothing I can do about it so I tend to just watch, but it's more sad than anything else I guess.
The driving in the city has been out of control since last summer. It's ridiculous. You end up needing to get out of their way even if you are following driving rules. I mentioned on the pissed off thread but my car got hit 2 weekends ago (luckily I could still drive it). It was a hit-and-run overnight, while my car was parked. Dropped it off yesterday at the shop and they are keeping it for 2 weeks.
How do you guys define bad drivers? Bad as in they don't follow the rules of the road, or bad as in they're actually terrible at the act of driving?
In CT, I feel like we're good drivers for the most part, but we're terrible at following the laws.
Bad driver for me are those that don't follow traffic rules. Constant speeding (even in heavy traffic), constant lane changing, cutting people off and just dangerous driving all around.
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I with you on both, though. I don't get it. Is it cool to be dumb? Is that the angle? Or too cool for (grammar) rules?
Then again, I don't get the whole "text" language. Is the idea "2 B in B4 ur an idiot?"
Seemingly, yes. Most memes look something like this: "When was the last time u talked to you're friend's from high school?" Call it out for the idiocy of "you're" and "friend's" and the backlash will be swift and substantial.
(https://c.tenor.com/UlXL2hLe3XsAAAAC/ross-gellar-friends.gif)
Selfish drivers in New York (and I'm sure many other places). The amount of times I've seen drivers completely avoid traffic, illegally, and then push their way ahead at the end of it, thus causing more traffic for everyone else, is staggering. Nothing I can do about it so I tend to just watch, but it's more sad than anything else I guess.
Don't get me started. I had to blast my horn at THREE different drivers this morning while making the less than 3 mile trip to drop my kid off at school. One of these idiots made a sharp right turn into a gas station FROM THE LEFT TURN LANE!
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I never let it make a worse driver though. I never try to match them for tit for tat. I still signal when I switch lanes/turn, I won't completely circumvent traffic, thus causing everyone else to wait even longer, etc. Though I will drive slowly in the left hand lane if I think Cram is behind me.
:lol
I like to think of myself a decent person, but tbh, I can be a total dick on the road. Specifically for my commute. As someone who drives 70 miles a day on the NJ highways, I know exactly what I'm doing and where I want to be at every point on my commute both ways. So when people sit in the left lane.... not only do I pass them on the right, I may tailgate them before doing so, I may also pass in front of them with out my blinker, and I may also even give them a dirty look right in their eyes or the finger. Yup, I am a NJ asshole on the roads but it's always in response to someone. I really never initiate the issue unless I've legit made a mistake which does happen and when it does, I usually try to wave or say sorry to make it known that it's a mistake and I'm not being a douche on purpose.
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People who think any word which end’s in an ‘s need’s an apostrophe. ;D
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People who use "bois" instead of "boys".
No worse than “boyz”.
I with you on both, though. I don't get it. Is it cool to be dumb? Is that the angle? Or too cool for (grammar) rules?
Then again, I don't get the whole "text" language. Is the idea "2 B in B4 ur an idiot?"
I use the word "boii" in text-based conversation specifically when referring to a male dog, and only to very specific people (mom and GF mainly). I don't know why exactly. I think it's to emphasize the extended "oy" sound at the end, which is how I pronounce the word "boy" when I'm showering my dog with praise. It's also possible meme culture has just made its way into my brain I suppose.
I think it's also appropriate to use if you're quoting Flavor Flave and really need to let that last note ring.
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Brah.
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I'm not being a douche on purpose.
It just comes naturally? :neverusethis:
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I'm not being a douche on purpose.
It just comes naturally? :neverusethis:
Yes, I'm from Jersey. It's natural to be a douche at times :angel:
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I'm from Jersey.
(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/episode-3-pictured-joe-piscopo-as-paulie-herman-during-the-video-date-picture-id141169512)
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Toddlerhood. Where yes means no and no means yes, but only some of the time. Where a confirmed decision is immediately revoked once you motion to complete agreed upon decision. Where carrying out a request exactly as instructed still leads to meltdowns of epic proportions because you still did it wrong. And hardest for me, where logic has no place of existence because those abilities are nowhere near developed yet.
You try your damndest to remain calm, but son of a bitch, if there aren’t times I want to go all Sam Kinison.
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Toddlerhood. Where yes means no and no means yes, but only some of the time. Where a confirmed decision is immediately revoked once you motion to complete agreed upon decision. Where carrying out a request exactly as instructed still leads to meltdowns of epic proportions because you still did it wrong. And hardest for me, where logic has no place of existence because those abilities are nowhere near developed yet.
You try your damndest to remain calm, but son of a bitch, if there aren’t times I want to go all Sam Kinison.
Do it. I'll bet the kid has gone all Sam Kinison on you a few dozen times! :lol
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Toddlerhood. Where yes means no and no means yes, but only some of the time. Where a confirmed decision is immediately revoked once you motion to complete agreed upon decision. Where carrying out a request exactly as instructed still leads to meltdowns of epic proportions because you still did it wrong. And hardest for me, where logic has no place of existence because those abilities are nowhere near developed yet.
Trying to figure out if this is how you view your toddler or if this is how your wife views you raising your toddler..
My experience is this could go either way. :lol
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:lol :lol :lol
Jingle, he’s definitely given us the Kinison treatment several times to this point. But as tempting as it is to go eye for an eye in this case, the ensuing (and deserved) backlash from my wife, among other things, makes it a very bad idea. Besides, my dad often flew off the handle for stupid random shit as I grew up, and it definitely subconsciously affected how close I wanted our relationship to be. I don’t want that with my kids.
And TAC, it sounds more like arranging and enduring a visit with my parents than anything else. But I hadn’t considered the wife angle. I give that a 50/50 much like you. :lol
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In case it wasn’t clear, I was NOT being (totally) serious. :biggrin:
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In case it wasn't clear I WAS being totally serious. :lol
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In case it wasn’t clear, I was NOT being (totally) serious. :biggrin:
I figured so, but responded just in case… ;)
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What about 'joke' T shirts where it'a a really long text
But every line
Is in a different
Font So Its
Really Hard to Read
And Looks cluttered.
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I think it's also appropriate to use if you're quoting Flavor Flave and really need to let that last note ring.
Well, that goes without saying. :) :) :)
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Mine for the day: "celebrity" culture. We watch the ABC game show night - Celebrity Family Feud, The Chase, and To Tell The Truth - and my wife watches "Dancing With The Stars".
We're watching CFF, and one team is a bunch of real estate agents from Los Angeles and the other is... I'm really not sure, except the woman described her team as "real life Crazy Rich Asians". So I guess selling over-priced real estate to people with more money than they know what to do with makes you a celebrity?
Then I made dinner last night and sat down to watch five minutes of DWTS with my wife and one contestant was a "Rich Housewife" from somewhere. Another was a YouTube poster, and a third was, I'm not joking, THE PELOTON BIKE GUY. Are you friggin' kidding me? I'm pretty sure the biggest "star" there was either the Cobra Kai guy, or Jan from The Office.
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Mine for the day: "celebrity" culture. We watch the ABC game show night - Celebrity Family Feud, The Chase, and To Tell The Truth - and my wife watches "Dancing With The Stars".
We're watching CFF, and one team is a bunch of real estate agents from Los Angeles and the other is... I'm really not sure, except the woman described her team as "real life Crazy Rich Asians". So I guess selling over-priced real estate to people with more money than they know what to do with makes you a celebrity?
Then I made dinner last night and sat down to watch five minutes of DWTS with my wife and one contestant was a "Rich Housewife" from somewhere. Another was a YouTube poster, and a third was, I'm not joking, THE PELOTON BIKE GUY. Are you friggin' kidding me? I'm pretty sure the biggest "star" there was either the Cobra Kai guy, or Jan from The Office.
Serves you right for watching that trash. Like that kind of TV isn't already 'dumbed down' enough, now they dumb down the definition of a "celebrity"
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Mine for the day: "celebrity" culture. We watch the ABC game show night - Celebrity Family Feud, The Chase, and To Tell The Truth - and my wife watches "Dancing With The Stars".
We're watching CFF, and one team is a bunch of real estate agents from Los Angeles and the other is... I'm really not sure, except the woman described her team as "real life Crazy Rich Asians". So I guess selling over-priced real estate to people with more money than they know what to do with makes you a celebrity?
Then I made dinner last night and sat down to watch five minutes of DWTS with my wife and one contestant was a "Rich Housewife" from somewhere. Another was a YouTube poster, and a third was, I'm not joking, THE PELOTON BIKE GUY. Are you friggin' kidding me? I'm pretty sure the biggest "star" there was either the Cobra Kai guy, or Jan from The Office.
Serves you right for watching that trash. Like that kind of TV isn't already 'dumbed down' enough, now they dumb down the definition of a "celebrity"
I don’t ever have to worry about any of this. I don’t watch TV.
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You and me both. I have no idea what CFF and DWTS are. Are those commonly accepted acronyms?
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You and me both. I have no idea what CFF and DWTS are. Are those commonly accepted acronyms?
I wouldn't of known but Stads wrote them out fully in the first sentence and then used acronyms after so it made sense.
But yeah, what Chad said. Celebrity these days could also mean someone with a following on social media. The term is used very loosely now.
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Mine for the day: "celebrity" culture. We watch the ABC game show night - Celebrity Family Feud, The Chase, and To Tell The Truth - and my wife watches "Dancing With The Stars".
We're watching CFF, and one team is a bunch of real estate agents from Los Angeles and the other is... I'm really not sure, except the woman described her team as "real life Crazy Rich Asians". So I guess selling over-priced real estate to people with more money than they know what to do with makes you a celebrity?
Then I made dinner last night and sat down to watch five minutes of DWTS with my wife and one contestant was a "Rich Housewife" from somewhere. Another was a YouTube poster, and a third was, I'm not joking, THE PELOTON BIKE GUY. Are you friggin' kidding me? I'm pretty sure the biggest "star" there was either the Cobra Kai guy, or Jan from The Office.
First, I'm right there with you, so it pains me a little to say the following: I feel like this is something my mother might have said in around 1985.
I DVR CFF for the 2-3 times a year when I'm desperate to watch something and don't want to search for a movie and can't find anything else. It seems like most them are C or D-list celebrity and non-celebrity family members. I'm right now looking at the list of who was on this past season, and the biggest names (as far as I'm concerned) are Rob Lowe, Vivica Fox and Dee Snider. 20-30 years ago, this would have been big-time stuff (and I don't know...maybe Lowe and Fox are currently doing notable stuff), but these are NOT current names. They also a team of current NFL players against "NFLPA legends" that was pretty cool. The episode you're apparently describing lists the cast as "Selling Sunset v. Bling Empire." According to Wikipedia, Selling Sunset is a Netflix "reality" show that "revolves around the Oppenheim Group, a high-end real estate brokerage firm in Los Angeles, and follows a group of agents as they navigate their personal and professional lives." I'm guessing all of the agents are unnaturally gorgeous/plastic surgery robots. Bling Empire is another Netflix "reality" show that "focuses on the lives of wealthy East Asian and East Asian-American socialites based in the Los Angeles area, described as real-life Crazy Rich Asians." Both shows sound about as enjoyable as a tooth extraction without anasthetic.
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Something that really pissed me off just now. I went to Jersey Mikes for lunch and some fuck-head is there ordered 14 fucking subs during lunch hour, all custom orders.
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Something that really pissed me off just now. I went to Jersey Mikes for lunch and some fuck-head is there ordered 14 fucking subs during lunch hour, all custom orders.
When I do that for my employees I order in advance and ask when I can pick them up.
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Something that really pissed me off just now. I went to Jersey Mikes for lunch and some fuck-head is there ordered 14 fucking subs during lunch hour, all custom orders.
When I do that for my employees I order in advance and ask when I can pick them up.
Yea, I'm pretty sure most places (especially chains) want you to call that in ahead of time.
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Mine for the day: "celebrity" culture. We watch the ABC game show night - Celebrity Family Feud, The Chase, and To Tell The Truth - and my wife watches "Dancing With The Stars".
We're watching CFF, and one team is a bunch of real estate agents from Los Angeles and the other is... I'm really not sure, except the woman described her team as "real life Crazy Rich Asians". So I guess selling over-priced real estate to people with more money than they know what to do with makes you a celebrity?
Then I made dinner last night and sat down to watch five minutes of DWTS with my wife and one contestant was a "Rich Housewife" from somewhere. Another was a YouTube poster, and a third was, I'm not joking, THE PELOTON BIKE GUY. Are you friggin' kidding me? I'm pretty sure the biggest "star" there was either the Cobra Kai guy, or Jan from The Office.
Serves you right for watching that trash. Like that kind of TV isn't already 'dumbed down' enough, now they dumb down the definition of a "celebrity"
I don’t ever have to worry about any of this. I don’t watch TV. I'm dumbed down enough.
...is what I figured you were going to say. :-*
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People who blame typos on auto-correct.
Are there really people out there who type things without paying attention and then click "send" or "post" without at least taking a quick look? It's not like auto-correct changes are set in stone and can't be changed.
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People who blame typos on auto-correct.
Are there really people out there who type things without paying attention and then click "send" or "post" without at least taking a quick look? It's not like auto-correct changes are set in stone and can't be changed.
Yes.. This guy!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1424802937176477701/oe9Ur2Sq_400x400.jpg)
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100% correct. It's worse when I get a new phone and mistype a word and it picks a word completely different than what I meant. I just need to pause to read before hitting send but I never do.
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People who blame typos on auto-correct.
Are there really people out there who type things without paying attention and then click "send" or "post" without at least taking a quick look? It's not like auto-correct changes are set in stone and can't be changed.
Yes. If it is casual texting with friends and whatnot, I almost never proofread them. It is not like they are being graded. :P :lol
Now, when it comes to sending work emails to customers and whatnot, I will always proofread them to make sure everything is correct, and I have said what I want to say in the best way possible. Heck, I will usually not even fill in who I am sending the emails to until I have proofread the email correct on the off chance I get trigger happy and hit "send" before I mean to (and if I am replying to an email, I will often take everyone out of it and then add them all back in once I have the email worded perfectly :lol).
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I proofread everything. Some of it is the legal background, some of it is being old, some of it is wanting to appear intelligent (just being honest) and some of it is survival. My texts are usually grammatically correct. (Survival: true story, I was getting on an airplane once, and I was rushing and texting with one hand, and sent a text to my now-ex-wife. There was a series of typos, and she accused me of cheating - basically having someone else send the text for me - because typos are so rare in my texts).
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I proofread everything. Some of it is the legal background, some of it is being old, some of it is wanting to appear intelligent (just being honest) and some of it is survival. My texts are usually grammatically correct. (Survival: true story, I was getting on an airplane once, and I was rushing and texting with one hand, and sent a text to my now-ex-wife. There was a series of typos, and she accused me of cheating - basically having someone else send the text for me - because typos are so rare in my texts).
"I've never heard of two people breaking up over punctuation."
-Jerry Seinfeld
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One of my biggest pet peeves on Twitter is the lack of an edit function. I hate misspellings. I try very hard to be grammatically correct. But sometimes in a hurry or multi-tasking or worsening vision as I get OLD, it happens.
I don't know that I'd accuse my spouse of cheating if his texting grammar suddenly changed - the more I use voice to text, the more I see the potential pitfalls. I love reading the funny autocorrect fails that get passed around from time to time on the internet.
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One of my biggest pet peeves on Twitter is the lack of an edit function. I hate misspellings. I try very hard to be grammatically correct. But sometimes in a hurry or multi-tasking or worsening vision as I get OLD, it happens.
I don't know that I'd accuse my spouse of cheating if his texting grammar suddenly changed - the more I use voice to text, the more I see the potential pitfalls. I love reading the funny autocorrect fails that get passed around from time to time on the internet.
Couple years ago, my daughter and I were sitting watching TV after dinner and we conducted an entire conversation using voice to text, with the only rule being we could NOT edit or change anything. I'm not sure we ever laughed that hard.
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If I send a tweet on my desktop with a typo in it - i quickly copy and paste it into a new tweet box - delete the old one and immediately tweet the replacement. takes seconds.
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If I send a tweet on my desktop with a typo in it - i quickly copy and paste it into a new tweet box - delete the old one and immediately tweet the replacement. takes seconds.
Sure, but it's still kind of lame to not be able to edit them. However, I feel like this is a "feature" of twitter they don't care to change as it's part of "tweeting" to make sure you get your shit right the first time.
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It's like real life. You can't take back what you said out loud.
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PLUS
You might tweet something like " We dont deserve dogs ! "
Then get loads of likes and RTs and replies like I AGREE !
Then edit your original post to say " Hitler was not that bad ". So maybe there could be a rule - you can edit tweets up until it has any interactions like a Like a retweet or a Reply...
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PLUS
You might tweet something like " We dont deserve dogs ! "
Then get loads of likes and RTs and replies like I AGREE !
Then edit your original post to say " Hitler was not that bad ". So maybe there could be a rule - you can edit tweets up until it has any interactions like a Like a retweet or a Reply...
Not a bad idea
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PLUS
You might tweet something like " We dont deserve dogs ! "
Then get loads of likes and RTs and replies like I AGREE !
Then edit your original post to say " Hitler was not that bad ". So maybe there could be a rule - you can edit tweets up until it has any interactions like a Like a retweet or a Reply...
This is similar to the old MP forum where you only had 5 mins to edit your post and after that it was locked in. So whatever you say is a permanent record unless you change within the 5 min window.
I did do something to that effect on that forum when I posted a topic that had already been posted which I didn't see at first and there were a bunch of replies pointing me to the original thread. There were some replies directly related to the topic. I quickly changed my thread title and body to something generic 'What's your favorite Rush record?' ;D
In retrospect it was fun to read those early replies months or years later when they have no connection to the original thread.
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This is similar to the old MP forum where you only had 5 mins to edit your post and after that it was locked in. So whatever you say is a permanent record unless you change within the 5 min window.
I don't remember that. Although I didn't post very much.
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People who reply to an email chain without being caught up.
Example: there were 10 emails this morning about an issue (with around 8-9 people).
One of the guys from a shipper replied to like the 3rd email in the chain and addressed something that was resolved a few emails later, which he would have known if he had taken the time to get caught up and read just a few more emails.
:facepalm: :facepalm:
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Reminds me of when you wake up and you have like 15 Twitter notifications so you get excited like a lot of ppl maybe discovered your music.
But no I was mentioned once and the rest of the conversation is other people just chatting and because they all replied to the one message
I get a notification for every single one. :angry: Takes ages to clean up my notifications too.
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People who reply to an email chain without being caught up.
Example: there were 10 emails this morning about an issue (with around 8-9 people).
One of the guys from a shipper replied to like the 3rd email in the chain and addressed something that was resolved a few emails later, which he would have known if he had taken the time to get caught up and read just a few more emails.
:facepalm: :facepalm:
I think how email chains are formatted generally blows. There was one system at work that was fantastic, but we only used it for a short time. The one we use now sucks.
As does gmail.
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People who reply to an email chain without being caught up.
Example: there were 10 emails this morning about an issue (with around 8-9 people).
One of the guys from a shipper replied to like the 3rd email in the chain and addressed something that was resolved a few emails later, which he would have known if he had taken the time to get caught up and read just a few more emails.
:facepalm: :facepalm:
I think how email chains are formatted generally blows. There was one system at work that was fantastic, but we only used it for a short time. The one we use now sucks.
As does gmail.
I hear ya, but with the beauty of Outlook, all I have to do is search and boom there are all of the emails in that chain one after the other. Takes like 6 seconds.
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I always thought a forum just like this would be the absolute best communication tool for group/office discussions and chains.
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In my outlook email chains are always up to date, as in, if I hadn't read the 3rd of 8 replies, I wouldn't see that 3rd reply as an unread email. It will show the latest 8th reply as unread and I'd have to scroll down in the email to see the past replies. This prevents the scenario Kev mentioned from happening.
I always thought a forum just like this would be the absolute best communication tool for group/office discussions and chains.
I really like slack. In my job, email is mostly for dealing with people outside the company. Anything internal is communicated within slack. So there's all these different chat rooms, and threads, and you can even hold video meetings. It's really a great communication tool. Probably the best chat app I've ever used even taking into account personal apps like whatsapp or telegram.
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In my outlook email chains are always up to date, as in, if I hadn't read the 3rd of 8 replies, I wouldn't see that 3rd reply as an unread email. It will show the latest 8th reply as unread and I'd have to scroll down in the email to see the past replies. This prevents the scenario Kev mentioned from happening.
I am not a fan of that grouping thing (or whatever it is called) with emails, so I leave them all as their own individual entity. I think they get grouped together on my phone for when I check them on the weekends or evenings, since I think that is the default for the Outlook app, but I use that so seldom that I have never bothered changing it. Even on weekends when I am on call (which is like 4-5 weekends a year), if I am home, I go to the computer to check and send any email rather than doing it on my phone. I guess I am old school like that. :lol
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People who reply to an email chain without being caught up.
Example: there were 10 emails this morning about an issue (with around 8-9 people).
One of the guys from a shipper replied to like the 3rd email in the chain and addressed something that was resolved a few emails later, which he would have known if he had taken the time to get caught up and read just a few more emails.
:facepalm: :facepalm:
That happens to me here a fair amount, since I tend to reply in order. So I'll read post A, reply to it, then go back and read post B, C, and D, only to find out that Post C said what I said first.
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So I've been examining some of the things I've been thinking and listening to some of the things I've been saying, and I have come to a conclusion that I said out loud to my wife today...
"I fucking hate people.".
Is everybody a fucking asshole?
Most of it is centered around driving..
Driving through red lights
Clogging an intersection after the light changes
Can't use a directional because your other hand is holding your phone.
Texting while driving
Last time I checked, "merge" does not mean playing chicken.
Fucking drive, WTF??
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The one thing we can all agree on here at DTF... people are the worst.
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So I've been examining some of the things I've been thinking and listening to some of the things I've been saying, and I have come to a conclusion that I said out loud to my wife today...
"I fucking hate people.".
Is everybody a fucking asshole?
Most of it is centered around driving..
Driving through red lights
Clogging an intersection after the light changes
Can't use a directional because your other hand is holding your phone.
Texting while driving
Last time I checked, "merge" does not mean playing chicken.
Fucking drive, WTF??
...not returning shopping carts to corrals. :biggrin:
I don't drive but people who don't use directionals piss me off so much. It's not even the phone, some people just don't fucking use them. Will your hand fall off if you deign to show us which way you're going to turn?
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So I've been examining some of the things I've been thinking and listening to some of the things I've been saying, and I have come to a conclusion that I said out loud to my wife today...
"I fucking hate people.".
Is everybody a fucking asshole?
Most of it is centered around driving..
Driving through red lights
Clogging an intersection after the light changes
Can't use a directional because your other hand is holding your phone.
Texting while driving
Last time I checked, "merge" does not mean playing chicken.
Fucking drive, WTF??
The answer is yes.
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So I've been examining some of the things I've been thinking and listening to some of the things I've been saying, and I have come to a conclusion that I said out loud to my wife today...
"I fucking hate people.".
Is everybody a fucking asshole?
Most of it is centered around driving..
Driving through red lights
Clogging an intersection after the light changes
Can't use a directional because your other hand is holding your phone.
Texting while driving
Last time I checked, "merge" does not mean playing chicken.
Fucking drive, WTF??
It's funny, because I've had this conversation with myself several times as a result of our periodic discussions on left lanes and carts and stuff, and I've asked myself "does it really matter?" and I've come to the conclusion: it DOES matter. It's a barometer of how we act when we feel there are no consequences, and/or when we can't immediately see the humanity on the other side. It's a scenario that is out of balance; there is the emotion - the anger, the rage - but there isn't the immediacy of actually dealing with a human on the other side of the scales. We see it on the internet, we see it on TV, on social media... we've gotten out of balance with tempering our emotions against those of other people.
Deep Thoughts, by Stadler.
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The new robo-calls that simulate a real conversation, down to the use of names and pauses. I know two people - one of whom may, or may not, be me - that have fallen for that. Having two parents in their '80's that I know don't realize the technology is that advanced, I can imagine people falling for this with significant consequences. I don't suggest we do anything about it, other than educate, but it's exasperating.
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So I've been examining some of the things I've been thinking and listening to some of the things I've been saying, and I have come to a conclusion that I said out loud to my wife today...
"I fucking hate people.".
Is everybody a fucking asshole?
Most of it is centered around driving..
Driving through red lights
Clogging an intersection after the light changes
Can't use a directional because your other hand is holding your phone.
Texting while driving
Last time I checked, "merge" does not mean playing chicken.
Fucking drive, WTF??
It's funny, because I've had this conversation with myself several times as a result of our periodic discussions on left lanes and carts and stuff, and I've asked myself "does it really matter?" and I've come to the conclusion: it DOES matter. It's a barometer of how we act when we feel there are no consequences, and/or when we can't immediately see the humanity on the other side. It's a scenario that is out of balance; there is the emotion - the anger, the rage - but there isn't the immediacy of actually dealing with a human on the other side of the scales. We see it on the internet, we see it on TV, on social media... we've gotten out of balance with tempering our emotions against those of other people.
Deep Thoughts, by Stadler.
You’ve daily accurately articulated how I feel about anti-vax’rs
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So I've been examining some of the things I've been thinking and listening to some of the things I've been saying, and I have come to a conclusion that I said out loud to my wife today...
"I fucking hate people.".
Is everybody a fucking asshole?
Most of it is centered around driving..
Driving through red lights
Clogging an intersection after the light changes
Can't use a directional because your other hand is holding your phone.
Texting while driving
Last time I checked, "merge" does not mean playing chicken.
Fucking drive, WTF??
It's funny, because I've had this conversation with myself several times as a result of our periodic discussions on left lanes and carts and stuff, and I've asked myself "does it really matter?" and I've come to the conclusion: it DOES matter. It's a barometer of how we act when we feel there are no consequences, and/or when we can't immediately see the humanity on the other side. It's a scenario that is out of balance; there is the emotion - the anger, the rage - but there isn't the immediacy of actually dealing with a human on the other side of the scales. We see it on the internet, we see it on TV, on social media... we've gotten out of balance with tempering our emotions against those of other people.
Deep Thoughts, by Stadler.
You’ve daily accurately articulated how I feel about anti-vax’rs
I can understand that.
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How my wife shops for groceries. We make our list, then split it up between us so we can save time, divide and conquer, right? We have been going to the same store for a decade, so there should be familiarity with the layout of all the goods. So I take my list, and start at one end and work my way through the store, picking up things from my list appropriately, trying to be efficient. My wife, on the other hand, goes down her list from top to bottom, and buys everything in that order, regardless of where it is in the store. So if she needs something on aisle 1, 3, and 5, but the items are on her list in the order of aisle 5, 1, 3, she will go from aisle 5, to 1, back to 3, instead of 5 to 3 to 1.
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Is there something in the human DNA that only codes the ability to effectively load a dishwasher into fathers? I swear every ... fucking ... time I open the dishwasher, I have to spend a minute organizing the dishes (ESPECIALLY the top rack) so that they're in alignment with the 'lanes' and stacked close together. Most times, I can honestly double the amount of dishes that go into a load.
How my wife shops for groceries. We make our list, then split it up between us so we can save time, divide and conquer, right? We have been going to the same store for a decade, so there should be familiarity with the layout of all the goods. So I take my list, and start at one end and work my way through the store, picking up things from my list appropriately, trying to be efficient. My wife, on the other hand, goes down her list from top to bottom, and buys everything in that order, regardless of where it is in the store. So if she needs something on aisle 1, 3, and 5, but the items are on her list in the order of aisle 5, 1, 3, she will go from aisle 5, to 1, back to 3, instead of 5 to 3 to 1.
Sounds like you need to do a better job writing the list! :lol
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Is there something in the human DNA that only codes the ability to effectively load a dishwasher into fathers? I swear every ... fucking ... time I open the dishwasher, I have to spend a minute organizing the dishes (ESPECIALLY the top rack) so that they're in alignment with the 'lanes' and stacked close together. Most times, I can honestly double the amount of dishes that go into a load.
Dude, I’ve been contemplating bringing this topic up here for MONTHS, but didn’t want to rag on my wife. But it does drive me nuts to open the dishwasher up and see things tossed everywhere with no rhyme or reason. My favorite is when cups are in there mouth side up so there’s water in them after it’s done washing and you’re unloading. I also love when dishes that have had hard to clean food on them (peanut butter, eggs, melted cheese, etc.) aren’t properly rinsed before loading. They still have food on them after they’re done, so they have to be washed a second time. Drives me crazy.
While I’m on it, the other thing that I’ve been thinking of putting here is when lids/caps aren’t fully twisted onto bottles and jars. More than once I’ve almost or actually have spilled/dropped something because I grabbed something by the lid in the fridge (as the lid is often the only accessible point to grab if the bottle is further back on the shelf) and it was only on by a 1/4 -1/2 twist or even cross threaded. That’s always a fun one to clean up.
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When loading silverware into the washer, my GF puts them in handle end down. It's madness.
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My parents did that. Whenever I would come over to visit I'd nearly impale my hand on a steak knife when I would put anything in the dishwasher. It makes no sense to me.
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Is there something in the human DNA that only codes the ability to effectively load a dishwasher into fathers? I swear every ... fucking ... time I open the dishwasher, I have to spend a minute organizing the dishes (ESPECIALLY the top rack) so that they're in alignment with the 'lanes' and stacked close together. Most times, I can honestly double the amount of dishes that go into a load.
Don't even get me started! And the worst is the reaction you get when you object. Sighing...eye rolling.... Here's the other thing: you come home and there are a bunch of dishes in the sink, so you open the dishwasher to load them and it's full. Why the fuck didn't you people run the dishwasher when it got full?! I love my family, but my wife admittedly sucks at "keeping house," and my kids are just...I don't know. Neither one of them has killed anyone...yet...as far as I know. :biggrin:
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When loading silverware into the washer, my GF puts them in handle end down. It's madness.
My brother would do this and I had been wondering for years if there's a right or wrong way to put the silverware in the washer. I just figured it's easier to put the handle up so you can grab it after its clean.
Also, living alone solves all these dishwasher issues :lol no one to blame but myself if they aren't organized properly or pre-rinsed effectively
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When loading silverware into the washer, my GF puts them in handle end down. It's madness.
Hmmm....this gets close to the TP roll division (up and over or hanging down the back?) but I might just die on this hill. I'm fanatical about how the dishwasher gets loaded in our house because I want the dishes CLEAN. Aside from knives (which I tend to hand wash anyway to keep them sharp) I also put the handle end down and I'll explain why.....soap and dirty water residue. When the handle is down, this all drips down away from the parts of the silverware that ends up in my mouth. As long as the person unloading washes their hands first - which is a rule in my house - then grabbing the silverware that way is a non-issue to me.
And about the grocery shopping. I consider myself lucky. My husband loves grocery shopping - which I dislike. So I prepare the list and he goes. I've almost got him perfectly trained but occasionally I'll get a call while he's in the aisle looking for a particular unusual item on the list. Anyhow, I'm OCD just enough to form the list keeping the layout of the store in mind so he doesn't have to do ANY back tracking or aisle hopping. We've got it down to a science. Until the store changes where items are - which happens surprisingly regularly.
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When loading silverware into the washer, my GF puts them in handle end down. It's madness.
Hmmm....this gets close to the TP roll division (up and over or hanging down the back?) but I might just die on this hill. I'm fanatical about how the dishwasher gets loaded in our house because I want the dishes CLEAN. Aside from knives (which I tend to hand wash anyway to keep them sharp) I also put the handle end down and I'll explain why.....soap and dirty water residue. When the handle is down, this all drips down away from the parts of the silverware that ends up in my mouth. As long as the person unloading washes their hands first - which is a rule in my house - then grabbing the silverware that way is a non-issue to me.
If that were true, wouldn't that mean part of every plate would be covered in that funk? If glasses are put in the washer upside down, that would mean the area you put your mouth on is covered with soap and dirty water residue just like the mouth part of the silverware, no?
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When loading silverware into the washer, my GF puts them in handle end down. It's madness.
Hmmm....this gets close to the TP roll division (up and over or hanging down the back?) but I might just die on this hill. I'm fanatical about how the dishwasher gets loaded in our house because I want the dishes CLEAN. Aside from knives (which I tend to hand wash anyway to keep them sharp) I also put the handle end down and I'll explain why.....soap and dirty water residue. When the handle is down, this all drips down away from the parts of the silverware that ends up in my mouth. As long as the person unloading washes their hands first - which is a rule in my house - then grabbing the silverware that way is a non-issue to me.
If that were true, wouldn't that mean part of every plate would be covered in that funk? If glasses are put in the washer upside down, that would mean the area you put your mouth on is covered with soap and dirty water residue just like the mouth part of the silverware, no?
Glasses are in the upper rack only, so residue drips down.
I don't worry about the edges of the plates where the residue on the bottom rack would wind up.
I have been known to rinse off items from the bottom rack when taking them out of the dishwasher if I notice residue. We do like to use Jet Dry which definitely helps.
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Until the store changes where items are - which happens surprisingly regularly.
No it doesn't. That's a myth.
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Until the store changes where items are - which happens surprisingly regularly.
No it doesn't. That's a myth.
Even while undergoing a remodel over the past 2 years? ???
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Until the store changes where items are - which happens surprisingly regularly.
No it doesn't. That's a myth.
Even while undergoing a remodel over the past 2 years? ???
Oh OK. A remodel..sure. Yes things get moved.
A 2 year remodel?? Wow!
What chain?
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Hmmm....this gets close to the TP roll division (up and over or hanging down the back?) but I might just die on this hill. I'm fanatical about how the dishwasher gets loaded in our house because I want the dishes CLEAN. Aside from knives (which I tend to hand wash anyway to keep them sharp) I also put the handle end down and I'll explain why.....soap and dirty water residue. When the handle is down, this all drips down away from the parts of the silverware that ends up in my mouth.
First of all, if you have a dishwasher that works worth a damn, this isn't an issue at all. I've never seen a dishwasher without a rinse cycle, so I can't conceive why there would be either soap or dirty water residue. Does your dishwasher use dirty water for the rinse cycle? If any of that is true, you likely need a new dishwasher. Second, why does this residue drip down from top part of the utensil but not drip down off the bottom part?
Glasses are in the upper rack only, so residue drips down.
I don't worry about the edges of the plates where the residue on the bottom rack would wind up.
So...the water knows to move past the parts of the plate where food ends up and only stay on the edges? And the same gravity that causes water/residue to drop completely off glasses on the top rack doesn't work the same way with the utensils? :lol :lol
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Ok, forget I said anything. I'll just keep doing what feels right for me and my family.
I wasn't trying to convince anyone here of anything. Just explaining why I do things the way that I do. When I open my dishwasher I see residue. My dishwasher isn't that old. People have different kinds of detergents and water hardness scales.
Thanks for all the judgment heaped on me. Talk about things I find exasperating. ::)
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Ok, forget I said anything. I'll just keep doing what feels right for me and my family.
I wasn't trying to convince anyone here of anything. Just explaining why I do things the way that I do. When I open my dishwasher I see residue. My dishwasher isn't that old. People have different kinds of detergents and water hardness scales.
Thanks for all the judgment heaped on me. Talk about things I find exasperating. ::)
I was going to apologize if my post seemed harsh (which wasn't the intent), but then I saw that garbage private message you sent me, so never mind.
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Ok, forget I said anything. I'll just keep doing what feels right for me and my family.
I wasn't trying to convince anyone here of anything. Just explaining why I do things the way that I do. When I open my dishwasher I see residue. My dishwasher isn't that old. People have different kinds of detergents and water hardness scales.
Thanks for all the judgment heaped on me. Talk about things I find exasperating. ::)
I was going to apologize if my post seemed harsh (which wasn't the intent), but then I saw that garbage private message you sent me, so never mind.
Yeah, I probably should've just posted the PM here like I wanted to but thought I'd give you my thoughts privately since I didn't want to stoop to your level.
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Am I the only one that washes dishes by hand?
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My wife. I need to buy a dishwasher.
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I never knew dishwasher talk could get so heated. Can we go back to talking about shopping carts??
We put our spoons handles down, but knives and forks go heads down.
Am I the only one that washes dishes by hand?
We were married for a few years before we bought a dishwasher. Our house had an old kitchen.
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I live on my own. I wash up my pans and plate after eating and put them away. Easy. Never understood how 'student' type people have 100 plates and they use a different one
every time - and their kitchen looks like a bomb went off. :/
Just wash up your ONE plate and mug and saucepan / whatever after you use it and clean up as you go.
Had enough of sharing a house with people who would just put stuff in the sink and think it would magically clean itself.
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This is a topic close to my heart; I do 99% of the cooking, and probably 85% of the cleanup. I hand-wash the pans and the preparation knives/utensils. We dishwash all the plateware and silverware used for eating and periodically I will put in the "spatula" (it's not but close) I used for saute-ing. I can look at a plate/silverware in the dishwasher and tell you who put it there. Me: top shelf starting from the back, "open" sides down; bottom shelf, plates in a line (rinsed) and silverware evenly spaced, used-side UP. The wife USUALLY follows this, though the silverware is often handle side up. Kids: everything jammed to the front. ALL the silverware in the first bin (I'd bet a round of drinks he doesn't even pull out the slide) hap-hazardly jammed in.
I put the silverware in hand down, "used" side up to facilitate cleaning. I don't know if it's myth or paranoia or what, but I worry being jammed in the bin restricts the water/soap flow and reduces the "cleaning efficiency". I do 90% of the unloading, so I'm usually cognizant of not getting impaled.
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If I make a proper dinner using pans and the hob etc etc. If I don't clean up as I go or immediately after i'm done- then I definitely do after i've finished eating.
Being in a horrible dirty filthy cluttered environment makes me feel really uncomfortable. Not in an OCD way but I can't properly feel relaxed if my
house is a complete mess. I used to go round my friend's farm-house to jam - and his house was like a warehouse with sofas in it. With a mouldy damp kitchen
and used plates and pans everywhere. I don't know how people can live like that. It's like living in a garage.
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I never knew dishwasher talk could get so heated. Can we go back to talking about shopping carts??
:rollin I was literally thinking this debate might be the new shopping cart topic for DTF in 2021
I also cannot stand having pots and pans and plates all dirty and all over the place. I often times will leave dinner dishes in the sink at night (I often eat dinner fairly late) and then clean them when I get home the next day or the next morning, but very very rarely any longer than that because I don't like the clutter.
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Am I the only one that washes dishes by hand?
I do as well. The way things go, if my partner does the cooking (most of the time), then I do the dishes. If I'm the one who cooks (sometimes), then she does the dishes. It works. We had a dishwasher at our previous apartment. Lived there for 6 years and we used it less than a dozen times.
In terms on how to place silverware, handles up, always.
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My gf's home doesn't have a dishwasher. It's funny when we finish home cook meals and she just starts hand cleaning everything and I'm like "hey, just put it in the dishwasher after you rinse the food off" and she's always responding "why? I'm already half way done cleaning them at that point" :lol Living solo, I could totally survive without a dish washer, but it is handy. My house actually didn't come with one, but we ripped out a cabinet to install one. While not 100% needed, I think it's more useful than that extra cabinet.
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I never knew dishwasher talk could get so heated. Can we go back to talking about shopping carts??
:rollin I was literally thinking this debate might be the new shopping cart topic for DTF in 2021
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My food safety training, and pretty much every restaurant in the country, does it handles down,with a very thorough rinse before going into the machine.
@harmony,thanjs for hand washing knives, they appreciate the love.
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I'm mixed. I often do spoons with the handles down, because they're more apt to .... spoon! and then have food still caked on.
Pots, pans, major utensils... all get hand washed, and drip-dried. Knives are always lovingly dried and put away in their proper place. :)
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What's the benefit to hand washing knives? But the chef has spoken on the debate in the dish washer
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Am I the only one that washes dishes by hand?
I do as well. The way things go, if my partner does the cooking (most of the time), then I do the dishes. If I'm the one who cooks (sometimes), then she does the dishes. It works. We had a dishwasher at our previous apartment. Lived there for 6 years and we used it less than a dozen times.
In terms on how to place silverware, handles up, always.
LOL. I do the same thing. I wash dishes by hand. I use the dishwasher to place the washed items and let them dry there (without turning on the dishwasher).
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What's the benefit to hand washing knives? But the chef has spoken on the debate in the dish washer
For higher end knives, the laminates and wood often in the handles don't hold well to the hot water, and the metal doesn't play nicely with the corrosive agents in the dish soap. My knife set totals well over a grand, and I'll get a lifetime of service out of it through proper TLC.I'm mixed. I often do spoons with the handles down, because they're more apt to .... spoon! and then have food still caked on.
Pots, pans, major utensils... all get hand washed, and drip-dried. Knives are always lovingly dried and put away in their proper place. :)
Hence the rinse before putting in the machine part.
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My knives are fairly cheap (one set was $100 bucks and another set which isn't even metal was a gift). I've been washing them in the dishwasher for years and they haven't started having any issues yet. There's no wood involved so maybe that's part of it. But yeah, if I invested in a nice set I should probably do what's right. It wouldn't even take that long to clean the knives, I just never even thought about it.
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My knives are fairly cheap (one set was $100 bucks and another set which isn't even metal was a gift). I've been washing them in the dishwasher for years and they haven't started having any issues yet. There's no wood involved so maybe that's part of it. But yeah, if I invested in a nice set I should probably do what's right. It wouldn't even take that long to clean the knives, I just never even thought about it.
I notice that some of my non-serrated knives get dull quicker after being in the dishwasher, since dishwasher soap is abrasive and gritty. Handwashing tends to extend the amount of time before needed to sharpen them. It also keeps the blade cleaner and free of stains or rust.
My wife just throws them in the dishwasher and I tend to just sharpen them anyways before putting them away.
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Knives definitely dull faster in the dishwasher. I think it is because they clang around against the other flatware. The chefs here can attest to this being a fact, I'm sure. But that has always been my reason for hand washing them. We have an electric sharpener and about twice a year they get sharpened and man, they are better than any Ginsu knife at cutting. (The old folks among us will get the reference.) We have to put warning post-its on the knife block lest someone slice off a finger on accident. That would typically be for me. :lol
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Does anyone else separate the silverware in the dishwasher? Like my side has 5 smaller areas to put silverware and for some reason I usually segregate them. Not sure why I do that, must be an OCD type thing.
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We handwash our real knives, but for our regular steak knives, they do go in the dishwasher.
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Knives definitely dull faster in the dishwasher. I think it is because they clang around against the other flatware. The chefs here can attest to this being a fact, I'm sure. But that has always been my reason for hand washing them. We have an electric sharpener and about twice a year they get sharpened and man, they are better than any Ginsu knife at cutting. (The old folks among us will get the reference.) We have to put warning post-its on the knife block lest someone slice off a finger on accident. That would typically be for me. :lol
For years I would cut a tin can in half before I sliced any tomato. I figured that was how it was done! ;) :) :)
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Knives definitely dull faster in the dishwasher. I think it is because they clang around against the other flatware. The chefs here can attest to this being a fact, I'm sure. But that has always been my reason for hand washing them. We have an electric sharpener and about twice a year they get sharpened and man, they are better than any Ginsu knife at cutting. (The old folks among us will get the reference.) We have to put warning post-its on the knife block lest someone slice off a finger on accident. That would typically be for me. :lol
For years I would cut a tin can in half before I sliced any tomato. I figured that was how it was done! ;) :) :)
I trust you sprayed your bald-spot first?
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Knives definitely dull faster in the dishwasher. I think it is because they clang around against the other flatware. The chefs here can attest to this being a fact, I'm sure. But that has always been my reason for hand washing them. We have an electric sharpener and about twice a year they get sharpened and man, they are better than any Ginsu knife at cutting. (The old folks among us will get the reference.) We have to put warning post-its on the knife block lest someone slice off a finger on accident. That would typically be for me. :lol
For years I would cut a tin can in half before I sliced any tomato. I figured that was how it was done! ;) :) :)
I trust you sprayed your bald-spot first?
Of course!
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If my heating is on in my home - I get hot water AND all the radiators come on. Of course I can turn them all off individually...
But i find it obviously cheaper in the summer months to just not turn the heating on AT ALL and do my washing up with cold water.
If you use soap and a scourer - it's no different.
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Knives definitely dull faster in the dishwasher. I think it is because they clang around against the other flatware. The chefs here can attest to this being a fact, I'm sure. But that has always been my reason for hand washing them. We have an electric sharpener and about twice a year they get sharpened and man, they are better than any Ginsu knife at cutting. (The old folks among us will get the reference.) We have to put warning post-its on the knife block lest someone slice off a finger on accident. That would typically be for me. :lol
Depends on the knife. I mean for cheaper knives clanging around in the dishwasher could dull them, but they mostly dull because they're cheap, the metal isn't made for holding an edge. (and by cheap I'm referring to the bulk sets that cost under $100). My cheapest knives, what I would call throwaways/heavy duty knives, I use Forschners, they range from 10 to 40 bucks pending on the blade. My higher end knives I use for detail work are upwards of 200. I got friends who have individual knives that are over a grand.
I searched ginsu just for shits and giggles, I knew they were still sold even though the classic commercials are no more, and found this image. Funny that they have 'Dishwasher Safe' emblazoned on the blade...
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Not only is it a classic - it's also where I first heard, "But wait! There's more....." :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wzULnlHr8w
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I swear some days I feel like I'm married to Laura Ingraham.
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Not only is it a classic - it's also where I first heard, "But wait! There's more....." :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wzULnlHr8w
$10 !!! And a 50 year guarantee. :rollin :rollin
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I lived in all sorts of apartments in my 20s. Some did not have a microwave, some didn't have a W/D, some didn't jave cable TV (which was significant since this was before Netflix, Disney+ Hulu, etc...). I have never lived in any place that didn't have a dishwasher. I do recall rarely using it when I lived alone, and just hand-washing stuff most of the time. But even then I couldn't imagine not having one.
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I swear some days I feel like I'm married to Laura Ingraham.
Are you venting, or does Laura Ingraham have some sort of relationship to dishwashers? :) :)
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I swear some days I feel like I'm married to Laura Ingraham.
Are you venting, or does Laura Ingraham have some sort of relationship to dishwashers? :) :)
She only loads the right side of the dishwasher.
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I swear some days I feel like I'm married to Laura Ingraham.
Are you venting, or does Laura Ingraham have some sort of relationship to dishwashers? :) :)
She only loads the right side of the dishwasher.
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I swear some days I feel like I'm married to Laura Ingraham.
Are you venting, or does Laura Ingraham have some sort of relationship to dishwashers? :) :)
She only loads the right side of the dishwasher.
I'm picking up what you're laying down.
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This is a topic close to my heart; I do 99% of the cooking, and probably 85% of the cleanup. I hand-wash the pans and the preparation knives/utensils. We dishwash all the plateware and silverware used for eating and periodically I will put in the "spatula" (it's not but close) I used for saute-ing. I can look at a plate/silverware in the dishwasher and tell you who put it there. Me: top shelf starting from the back, "open" sides down; bottom shelf, plates in a line (rinsed) and silverware evenly spaced, used-side UP.
I put the silverware in hand down, "used" side up to facilitate cleaning. I don't know if it's myth or paranoia or what, but I worry being jammed in the bin restricts the water/soap flow and reduces the "cleaning efficiency". I do 90% of the unloading, so I'm usually cognizant of not getting impaled.
You guys, I swear I am not Stadler but I just came in to write this exact post. Fucking uncanny.
Masters of the kitchen, right here.
thing I find exasperating today: my job, which has an app where I can set my availability and then they call me and I confirm my availability and then they send me an assignment when I am NOT available and then not read my text where I say I am not available and then I have to call the main office to confirm I am indeed not available.
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When you order a package with a courier company and they give you a tracking number...
...But the ONLY info you ever get is " on the way ".
Fucking fantastic. Why bother.
It would be like having a weather app which just says " look out the window ".
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It would be like having a weather app which just says " look out the window ".
Dammit I wish I knew how to create an app! That's actually an awesome idea.
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I swear some days I feel like I'm married to Laura Ingraham.
Who?
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It would be like having a weather app which just says " look out the window ".
Dammit I wish I knew how to create an app! That's actually an awesome idea.
wETHR
:cool: Got it sorted.
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It would be like having a weather app which just says " look out the window ".
Dammit I wish I knew how to create an app! That's actually an awesome idea.
wETHR
:cool: Got it sorted.
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Well yeah.
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Sales Tax Collection. When the Supreme Court's decision in Wayfair v. South Dakota changed nexus laws, it meant large online retailers had to start collecting sales tax on online purchases regardless of whether or not they had a physical presence in a particular state. There are over 5,000 separate sales tax zones within the United State, and who is expected to pay sales tax varies by state. Additionally, most of them require a different tax exempt forms depending on the state. Some states don't collect sales tax. So, in addition to being in sales, I've had to become reasonably fluent in sales tax law. There are some transactions that take 5-10 separate contacts in order to get the proper forms in place, and it becomes a major pain point in what should be a relatively simple process.
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It would be like having a weather app which just says " look out the window ".
Dammit I wish I knew how to create an app! That's actually an awesome idea.
Have you checked out What the Forecast weather app? Some of the text that comes up is hilarious!
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It would be like having a weather app which just says " look out the window ".
Dammit I wish I knew how to create an app! That's actually an awesome idea.
Have you checked out What the Forecast weather app? Some of the text that comes up is hilarious!
You picked the thoughts right out of my brain.
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I generally just step into a church to get that effect.
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One of my favorite comedians Tweeted this today. It isn't meant to be a scientific statement. Nevertheless, it made me stop in my tracks and ponder it.
82% of Americans are addicted to grievances.
I can't speak to the number but when I watch the news (which I know has a negative slant always) I can't help but muse that it sounds about right.
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One of my favorite comedians Tweeted this today. It isn't meant to be a scientific statement. Nevertheless, it made me stop in my tracks and ponder it.
82% of Americans are addicted to grievances.
I can't speak to the number but when I watch the news (which I know has a negative slant always) I can't help but muse that it sounds about right.
Like saying my job is so hard and wanting sympathy for the hard work I do.
Or...
I have it so hard....No, people in the past had it much harder than you. Meaning they had to work more for what they wanted. You wanted food, you have no choice but to grow it. You want to be warm, you had to go out, cut down a tree, chop the wood, and then build it into a fire. That fire also served the purpose of cooking the food.
A lot of people do not realize how easy humans have it today. So much in fact some people can afford to be lazy.
But the industrialization of society into urban life created consequences such as people not being able to acquire land to do these things. Even in sports, it was getting harder to find land to play on and this was needed as a form of leisure for the intense working conditions of the factory jobs. Or else there would've been riots and grievances.
This is a big reason I talk about comforts of life.
While I do enjoy these comforts, I also know they can easily be taken and I will be forced to work harder for the things I want.
But that's how it is right in Capitalist Society, you work hard hours for the money, and that money is based on what exactly? The necessity of the job or the education that you spend many years studying for the degree that gives you more money for being put in debt?
Or, you could just live off the Grid and just work more to survive.
Actually, some people are content with having little of these comforts where they do not take them for granted when given opportunities.
I notice a lot of Americans take this for granted and do not see they have it better than a lot of other people do. Even us Native people are doing better. Humanity in general is acting with more unity than before.
But, as with all things, you have separate ideals and beliefs butting heads, where one way declares itself the one true way all of humanity must abide and live the lifestyle of. Which does not and will never happen until all of humanity sees that we are all the same, only we do things in our own ways, which in turn each of these ways helps the world to continue to spin.
Grievances have occurred for quite a while now, especially during the Industrial Revolution. And I see that happening again as we move further into the newer reality of the Technological Revolution. Which includes the Technology of medicine and vaccines.
The consequences of this will be seen further down the road of future generations, like we are witnessing the consequences of the industrial revolution with the climate, the toxification of the soil and land, and the effects those industrialized products are having on the world itself, all so us humans can enjoy these comforts of these products.
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I don't know if it's "I have it so hard", though there is some of that, for sure. But there's this... adversarial undercurrent in our country that I'm seeing spiralling out of control. For all the "Boston Strong" community bullshit - and I say that because of what I'm about to say - there's still this wildfire of "don't take no shit from no one"/"don't compromise" that really fuels the personal interactions. I will gladly debate it, but I think it's a symptom of what I've repeatedly called out, a massive insecurity complex. I can't let you get one over on me! Road rage, events on airlines, community meetings that all devolve down to shouting matches, intellectual conversations where ANY pushback is deemed to be a personal affront, the injection of race into every interaction that doesn't come out at least neutral... we can't seem to work nicely in the spaces. It's all or nothing. And it's CERTAINLY not just the deplorables and the Karens. It takes two to tango, at least according to Dancing With The Stars.
If you view everything as a battle, if you view everything as a zero sum game, then everything WILL be that. Some of the people that engage in those mini-grievances... I'd love to talk to them a year, or even a month later, and ask them: do you remember what happened? And if so, can you name ONE thing in your life that was different (for the better) after that incident? Did cutting off that guy on the freeway get you a raise? Did it increase your kids' grades at all? Did it make your wife/husband/secretary/pool boy any sexier or more desireable? Did it get your lawn cut?
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One of my favorite comedians Tweeted this today. It isn't meant to be a scientific statement. Nevertheless, it made me stop in my tracks and ponder it.
82% of Americans are addicted to grievances.
I can't speak to the number but when I watch the news (which I know has a negative slant always) I can't help but muse that it sounds about right.
If I go onto facebook, cough I mean meta cough, I would put that number closer to 95% but seriously, 82% could be legit.
Was talking to my friends recently about a girl we went to high school with who constatnly posted rants and negative things on facebook. We were questioning how someone could live life so mad at everything all the time? Isn't that extremely unhealthy and what joy in life are you getting from all that?
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Please live off of drama. That's why shows like The Batchelor/Bachelorette does so well.
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One of my favorite comedians Tweeted this today. It isn't meant to be a scientific statement. Nevertheless, it made me stop in my tracks and ponder it.
82% of Americans are addicted to grievances.
I can't speak to the number but when I watch the news (which I know has a negative slant always) I can't help but muse that it sounds about right.
If I go onto facebook, cough I mean meta cough, I would put that number closer to 95% but seriously, 82% could be legit.
Was talking to my friends recently about a girl we went to high school with who constatnly posted rants and negative things on facebook. We were questioning how someone could live life so mad at everything all the time? Isn't that extremely unhealthy and what joy in life are you getting from all that?
Yeah, what's up with that name? Barf. I'm about a minute away from dumping that platform all together. The only thing keeping me in at this point is not wanting to lose touch with some friends/family and losing all my photos. I barely ever post anything anymore.
I look at all of these people literally screaming their heads off at school board meetings (about mask mandates, vaccines, CRT, and I'm certain about a dozen other topics) most of whom don't even have kids in the district, and I'm wondering who is paying these people to act this way? Yeah, I get people are passionate about things but this is something else. It's like if we yell loud enough and get the meeting or whatever canceled then we've somehow won. But they haven't won anything. Except maybe an ulcer.
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I'm also debating about deleting my facebook account, I stopped being active on it awhile ago.
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I'm also debating about deleting my facebook account, I stopped being active on it awhile ago.
You know, I wonder if the migration of Myspace users to Facebook, as well as people treating Facebook like it's Myspace has anything to do with Facebook being what it is today.
Myspace was awesome and was great for being your own social page where you can upload and post about whatever you feel showing on your page. I think it was better in that it made people learn coding in order to make fancy animated backgrounds.
Let's just blame Tom for his dumbest decision when he changed the Myspace format to be like Facebook. That was a deathblow to Myspace and the beginning of the mass migration over to Facebook.
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I'm also debating about deleting my facebook account, I stopped being active on it awhile ago.
Don't. Just skip on by. All social media is bad if you let it get to you.
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I deleted FB in 2011 and never went back. Don't miss it.
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People simply have to manufacture outrage over nothing. jingle.son was just reading a story how PETA wants MLB to rename the Bullpen, "in favor of a more modern, animal-friendly term". I'm not making this shit up.
https://www.peta.org/media/news-releases/petas-call-to-the-bullpen-rename-outdated-term-arm-barn/
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:angry: i demand we change the name of The Flea.
They do not flee AT ALL !!! They stick around !!!
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I'm also debating about deleting my facebook account, I stopped being active on it awhile ago.
Don't. Just skip on by. All social media is bad if you let it get to you.
Skipping on by is not interesting at all on facebook. Doesn't that defeat the purpose?
I deleted FB in 2011 and never went back. Don't miss it.
Basically everyone I know who has deleted it has said the same thing.
I enjoy my twitter feed 1000 times more. Or even my instagram feed is way more enjoyable even though it's still owned by facebook.
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Lol, yea all those outraged animals marching and protesting. People suck
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I dunno if you can mute people on FB but you can on twitter - but they obvs dont know it - You can still follow them but not see their posts.
It's like a friendlier block.
Also if you don't want someone following you but you don't want to block them - you block them then immediately unblock them and they're no longer following you.
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This is in no way to disparage any of my fellow DTFers on this page, but any mention of Facebook in anyone's lives makes my eyes roll. I don't have a Facebook, and I don't give a fuck. I don't have a Twitter and who fucking cares. I don't have an Instagram, and I'm peachy as shit.
I don't know. Maybe I'm just an old fart, and maybe if I was 15, I'd might be into these things.
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Skipping idiot's post help you internally Marc. So many better posts to respond to than negative posts.
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This is in no way to disparage any of my fellow DTFers on this page, but any mention of Facebook in anyone's lives makes my eyes roll. I don't have a Facebook, and I don't give a fuck. I don't have a Twitter and who fucking cares. I don't have an Instagram, and I'm peachy as shit.
I don't know. Maybe I'm just an old fart, and maybe if I was 15, I'd might be into these things.
That's the thing... 15 year olds don't give a fuck about FB either. :lol
And yes, you're an old fart.
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I feel like my life would be a lot less fun without Facebook. DTF is the last remaining forum that I post on. The dozens of RC clubs and forums I belong to have all closed and are now on Facebook. Every hobby I participate in basically requires Facebook in order to stay up to date with who's doing what and what's happening when. I miss forums, man. They were perfect for hobbies. Any that remain are complete ghost towns.
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In a way, I might be a bit hypocritical because I am active here, so I do have an online..presence. But if DTF disappeared tomorrow, I pretty my much have text and email connections with those that I am most in touch with here. If DTF suddenly showed up as a FB Only thing...I'd have to seriously think about it. Not sure what I'd do.
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People are so dramatic about social media. No one can just scroll by anymore. L:ive is full of things we don't agree about. Too many people take it personally and feel the need to act accordingly instead of scrolling by and ignoring.
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82% of Americans are addicted to grievances.
Good thing then that in less than 2 months we can all have an airing of them after the feats of strength.
In a way, I might be a bit hypocritical because I am active here, so I do have an online..presence. But if DTF disappeared tomorrow, I pretty my much have text and email connections with those that I am most in touch with here. If DTF suddenly showed up as a FB Only thing...I'd have to seriously think about it. Not sure what I'd do.
Me too, except having personal communication with members here. I also have wondered if this forum went to FB, what I would do.
One thing I don't really get, because I do not use it, is how people cling to FB solely as a way to "keep in touch" with people. I assume before that people used text, email, phone, postcards, carrier pigeons. Those all worked fine, didn't they?
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The Facebook have officially changed their name to META.
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Only the company. The Facebook site and app will not change the name, as I understood it.
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Mobile phones and driving (at least here in FL ) will eventually kill me. Every day is a near miss. I may have to move just because of the inherent danger. No shit. It's brutal.
Not at least man, its everywhere, I'm up here in Ontario Canada, same shit. Unfuckingbelievable.
This addiction to phones in general. I see this all the time at work. Dudes taking a piss at the urinal holding their dick in one hand and the phone in the other. It's mind boggling.
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Yep ! Probably what the new Matrix movie is all about.
I serve big tables of families at work sometimes that don't even look up when their food arrives - every single person is buried in their phone. Terrible.
I also don't give two Sh*ts about having the latest one.
I got my first smartphone in 2009 and I had it for two years before I upgraded. Then I had that one for FIVE YEARS before I finally got a new one.
My current smartphone is still only an iPhone 6. It does all I need it to. An iPhone 14XRS or whatever would also do what I need but would cost me £999999 more a month.
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Hehe, I got my first smartphone this time last year. Just because need it for work and I hate lugging it around in my pocket. Up to that point I had a blackberry style size phone. I still miss my small flip phones.
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Dunno if you'd call it a 'smart' phone - but I had the Nokia N95 back in the day. That was a pretty fun phone for the time.
It had Snake 3D on it - and I actually managed to finish the game ;D
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I swear... I preemptively have my hand on the horn every time I'm at a red light. It feels like at every light there's some douchebag not paying attention who ends up sleeping on the green and preventing 2 or more people from making it through the light. It's getting really annoying.
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I swear... I preemptively have my hand on the horn every time I'm at a red light. It feels like at every light there's some douchebag not paying attention who ends up sleeping on the green and preventing 2 or more people from making it through the light. It's getting really annoying.
DUDE!! Right up my alley with that one. Up where I live - Granby - it's bad. The lights are programmed for "small town" - meaning, short greens but fast rotation through the four directions - and if you're not on your game, you're out for the next cycle. I've sat at the main light bringing my stepson to school and watched one or two cars make it through each cycle, because someone apparently had a crucial text to send at that very moment the light turned green. It's even worse when the snoozer is the lead car and wants to turn. If they don't get off the line right away, they may not move until the other side stops at the yellow (and not even then if the cars try to beat the light).
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I swear... I preemptively have my hand on the horn every time I'm at a red light. It feels like at every light there's some douchebag not paying attention who ends up sleeping on the green and preventing 2 or more people from making it through the light. It's getting really annoying.
DUDE!! Right up my alley with that one. Up where I live - Granby - it's bad. The lights are programmed for "small town" - meaning, short greens but fast rotation through the four directions - and if you're not on your game, you're out for the next cycle. I've sat at the main light bringing my stepson to school and watched one or two cars make it through each cycle, because someone apparently had a crucial text to send at that very moment the light turned green. It's even worse when the snoozer is the lead car and wants to turn. If they don't get off the line right away, they may not move until the other side stops at the yellow (and not even then if the cars try to beat the light).
On the other hand, is annoying when the light turns green and 0.0001 seconds later someone in the back is honking already.
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This is in no way to disparage any of my fellow DTFers on this page, but any mention of Facebook in anyone's lives makes my eyes roll. I don't have a Facebook, and I don't give a fuck. I don't have a Twitter and who fucking cares. I don't have an Instagram, and I'm peachy as shit.
I don't know. Maybe I'm just an old fart, and maybe if I was 15, I'd might be into these things.
You and me, brother. The only thing I worry about - and I'm past that now because she'll be 21 in February - was monitoring my kid online, and thankfully the ex took care of that for me.
I'd really be bummed if this place went to FB; I don't know if I'd go or not. I know I would miss the community. When I get a question - like one I'm about to post about computers - literally the first thing I think of is "does someone at DTF know the answer to this?" I suppose I could do it by text, but if the immediate text group doesn't know the answer, I don't have that access to the other people I don't know well but with whom I share a connection (in this case, Dream Theater).
The ONLY thing I would say about FB is that if you lost touch with someone it's sometimes easier to find them on FB than anywhere else. But even then, if they don't stay active, you're out of luck. I was looking for a friend from high school and we fell out of touch - really do not know why except attrition - and I found him, but he hasn't posted since like 2017, so who knows?
I do know that I worry alot about social media. I know I can block people on Twitter, but that's not my style; blocking someone only takes them out of MY life, and even if I disagree with you, blocking you just buries my head in the sand further. I get a stream of tweets every morning, and honestly, I feel these people are sick and in need of help. They are SO obsessed with certain things (usually Trump being in jail, but there is enough on both sides to point at) that I don't know how they function. What must their lives be like?
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Hmmm, I was provoked, irritated to a high degree and extremely annoyed...but just a tad. :lol :rollin :lol
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This is in no way to disparage any of my fellow DTFers on this page, but any mention of Facebook in anyone's lives makes my eyes roll. I don't have a Facebook, and I don't give a fuck. I don't have a Twitter and who fucking cares. I don't have an Instagram, and I'm peachy as shit.
are you now?? :lol
I get it though, you are like my father who has no social media presence and doesn't care to start one. I feel like, if I was older and have gone this long without it, I wouldn't start now either.
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People simply have to manufacture outrage over nothing. jingle.son was just reading a story how PETA wants MLB to rename the Bullpen, "in favor of a more modern, animal-friendly term". I'm not making this shit up.
https://www.peta.org/media/news-releases/petas-call-to-the-bullpen-rename-outdated-term-arm-barn/
I posted about this in the MLB thread. The funny thing about the PETA release is that (assuming it's actually true and not something PETA just made up) a "bullpen" is/was a place where they keep bulls before being slaughtered. Despite the name, I have literally never connected the bullpen to actual bulls. PETA says it makes light of suffering animals? It does? Really? And it devalues highly skilled athletes. LOL...what? The only thing that press release told me was that PETA has nothing important to do.
This is in no way to disparage any of my fellow DTFers on this page, but any mention of Facebook in anyone's lives makes my eyes roll. I don't have a Facebook, and I don't give a fuck. I don't have a Twitter and who fucking cares. I don't have an Instagram, and I'm peachy as shit.
I don't know. Maybe I'm just an old fart, and maybe if I was 15, I'd might be into these things.
Facebook is generally regarded as social media for old farts. I got on FB in 2009 and, for the most part, I've enjoyed it. I reconnected with a bunch of people from my past with whom I'd have had no other way to reconnect. It's also a useful tool in my role as president of my kid's marching band boosters. It becomes tedious, however, every four years in the months leading up to national elections. I also have a couple friends who fancy themselves amateur political commentators. One of them I have permanently muted, and the other is heading in that direction. For me nowadays, it's mostly a way to share stuff with family who doesn't live near me. I have a Twitter account, which I almost never log into, and I have an Instagram account that I only created to follow marching band stuff, and I maybe log in once a month.
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This is in no way to disparage any of my fellow DTFers on this page, but any mention of Facebook in anyone's lives makes my eyes roll. I don't have a Facebook, and I don't give a fuck. I don't have a Twitter and who fucking cares. I don't have an Instagram, and I'm peachy as shit.
I don't know. Maybe I'm just an old fart, and maybe if I was 15, I'd might be into these things.
Facebook is generally regarded as social media for old farts. I got on FB in 2009 and, for the most part, I've enjoyed it. I reconnected with a bunch of people from my past with whom I'd have had no other way to reconnect. It's also a useful tool in my role as president of my kid's marching band boosters. It becomes tedious, however, every four years in the months leading up to national elections. I also have a couple friends who fancy themselves amateur political commentators. One of them I have permanently muted, and the other is heading in that direction. For me nowadays, it's mostly a way to share stuff with family who doesn't live near me. I have a Twitter account, which I almost never log into, and I have an Instagram account that I only created to follow marching band stuff, and I maybe log in once a month.
Well, I know you're right, because I opened an account (to use Marketplace) in 2020. :) :) :)
But, more seriously, if that's the case, what are the other platforms (it's a rhetorical question)? Twitter is a cesspool, IMO. I see three things on Twitter: Sales and marketing (but not GOOD sales and marketing), political anger, and personal insecurity. None of those are really worth the effort, are they?
Some of these people I really feel badly for; I feel sorry for the lives they lead. It's not just one or two posts, it's a daily occurrence. I cannot imagine it's a healthy mind-space to be in to be living in that state of hyperbole and inflammation. I do not troll, and I largely stay out of it, but on occassion I will offer a point similar to the ones I make here. Sometimes I craft the response and never send it; I did that yesterday to a woman complaining about Merrick Garland being inept for not bringing charges against Steve Bannon already. And I wanted to ask her: "So... you disagree with Merrick Garland, who is a professional at his job, has no vested interest in suppressing the truth, has certainly more and better information than you do... and you're right and he's wrong? At what point do you - EVER - concede you may not be the one in the right?"
This isn't political; it's just using a political example. I could have used the constant selfies/pictures screaming for affirmation; but the question is the same. How is this healthy? How are we supposed to be caring, tolerant, bipartisan citizens when we're constantly bombarded by our failures and inadequacies? (And less anyone think I'm overstating the case here, look at the ultimate harbinger of the state of our society: the advertising game. The VAST majority of advertisements are structured to pander to your "superiority". That smart, knowing wife, nodding smugly as her dipshit husband soils his shirt again. The happy family, internetting away while Dad smugly and confidently sits back knowing that Xfinity has his best interests to heart. Or that ad for Stuplicity, new wonderdrug, that YOU of all people have to ask your DOCTOR about, since you know better!
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But, more seriously, if that's the case, what are the other platforms (it's a rhetorical question)? Twitter is a cesspool, IMO. I see three things on Twitter: Sales and marketing (but not GOOD sales and marketing), political anger, and personal insecurity. None of those are really worth the effort, are they?
I couldn't agree more about Twitter (at least in my experience). If I recall correctly, I opened my account at a friend's urging to participate in a "hashtag war" between LA Kings and some other team's fans. It had something to do with X cents per tweet being donated for some charity. Like I said, I only rarely log in, but when I do, I see exactly what you're describing (in a very jumbled fashion that isn't easy to sort through).
As for the last part of what you posted -- about the constant prescription drug ads -- I take multiple prescription drugs for my heart, and I once asked my cardiologist about those ads. She said she didn't mind folks asking if they should take Drug X. The bigger problem that she had seen is that those ads inevitably have a section where they talk about side effects (which often seem a heckuva lot worse than what the drug is treating). She says that she has seen patients who stop taking prescribed mediation BECAUSE they hear about the side effects in the commercial and become concerned...and without talking to her first.
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There's two sides (maybe more) to the prescription thing; on one hand, it forces the doctors to cater to a patient, who might "shop" doctors in order to get the latest and greatest. It puts them in the uncomfortable position of basing a decision on commercial concerns not medical ones. But on the flip side, an educated patient is a doctor's best patient, since there is more information on the table, and the doctor is forced to put in the effort to be current and knowledgeable. So it works both ways. I was more referring to the attitude that it engenders, that "I" know more than my doctor.
Me, personally (Stadler) have faith in the experts in my life. I do not know more about medicine than my doctor, and I don't pretend to. There aren't people like that nowadays. We "know better" than "they" do. There's always a "they". You know what I mean; "they". "They" don't want you to know. "They" don't tell you. "They" are out to get you.
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Honestly - when people call Adam Jones an "incredible" guitar player - when as a guitar player myself - I can tell how severely limited he is.
There's a guy who does TOOL covers on YouTube and the amount of songs that have the exact same riffs and licks is actually hilarious.
Not saying he's shit or his style is bad but 7empest just proves how limited he is. If you're gonna solo for 5 minutes straight
you better make sure it's for a reason and you're not just noodling the same 5 licks you know over and over.
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Great points well made :splodetard:
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Our neighborhood streets have a lot of trees, and this time of year of course, a huge amount of leaves just dump over the course of a couple of weeks. HOA dues pay for some maintenance of the sidewalk and curb strip (or whatever you call the grass between the sidewalk and street) including leaf blowing of those public areas. Your yards and driveway are your own business, though, and city ordinance prohibits blowing or depositing yard waste into the roads.
Yet, every day this week, I’ve seen nearly all my neighbors blow leaves from their yards and driveways into the street to let the maintenance folks take care of it. Scads of leaves that literally cover half the street width. Makes me seriously question why I’m busting my ass blowing and raking the leaves in my yard into piles and bagging them all up to be disposed of on the official leaf pickup day. And it makes me resent my neighbors’ “Eh, let the other guys take care of it,” type of attitude. I might be out of line with feeling this way, but it definitely leaves me a tad exasperated.
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um... that's actually creating dangerous road/driving conditions. :tdwn to anyone doing that. I'm surprised there isn't something in the HOA by-laws that prevent this.
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I swear... I preemptively have my hand on the horn every time I'm at a red light. It feels like at every light there's some douchebag not paying attention who ends up sleeping on the green and preventing 2 or more people from making it through the light. It's getting really annoying.
I'm a fairly patient person and not the type to get road rage, but if there is one that really irks me on the road, it is what you referenced. I hate it when it happens at a light that you know sucks so bad that only 5-6 are getting through before it goes from green to yellow, and all it takes is one driver having their head up their ass and suddenly only 2-3 cars get through the light. :censored :censored I still don't use my horn (the only time I ever use my horn on the road is to prevent an accident, like if someone doesn't look to change lanes and they might smash into me if I do not hit the horn to let them know to pay attention), but I will sometimes curse to myself a bit in those instances. :lol :lol
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This is in no way to disparage any of my fellow DTFers on this page, but any mention of Facebook in anyone's lives makes my eyes roll. I don't have a Facebook, and I don't give a fuck. I don't have a Twitter and who fucking cares. I don't have an Instagram, and I'm peachy as shit.
I don't know. Maybe I'm just an old fart, and maybe if I was 15, I'd might be into these things.
Facebook is generally regarded as social media for old farts. I got on FB in 2009 and, for the most part, I've enjoyed it. I reconnected with a bunch of people from my past with whom I'd have had no other way to reconnect. It's also a useful tool in my role as president of my kid's marching band boosters. It becomes tedious, however, every four years in the months leading up to national elections. I also have a couple friends who fancy themselves amateur political commentators. One of them I have permanently muted, and the other is heading in that direction. For me nowadays, it's mostly a way to share stuff with family who doesn't live near me. I have a Twitter account, which I almost never log into, and I have an Instagram account that I only created to follow marching band stuff, and I maybe log in once a month.
Well, I know you're right, because I opened an account (to use Marketplace) in 2020. :) :) :)
But, more seriously, if that's the case, what are the other platforms (it's a rhetorical question)? Twitter is a cesspool, IMO. I see three things on Twitter: Sales and marketing (but not GOOD sales and marketing), political anger, and personal insecurity. None of those are really worth the effort, are they?
Some of these people I really feel badly for; I feel sorry for the lives they lead. It's not just one or two posts, it's a daily occurrence. I cannot imagine it's a healthy mind-space to be in to be living in that state of hyperbole and inflammation. I do not troll, and I largely stay out of it, but on occassion I will offer a point similar to the ones I make here. Sometimes I craft the response and never send it; I did that yesterday to a woman complaining about Merrick Garland being inept for not bringing charges against Steve Bannon already. And I wanted to ask her: "So... you disagree with Merrick Garland, who is a professional at his job, has no vested interest in suppressing the truth, has certainly more and better information than you do... and you're right and he's wrong? At what point do you - EVER - concede you may not be the one in the right?"
This isn't political; it's just using a political example. I could have used the constant selfies/pictures screaming for affirmation; but the question is the same. How is this healthy? How are we supposed to be caring, tolerant, bipartisan citizens when we're constantly bombarded by our failures and inadequacies? (And less anyone think I'm overstating the case here, look at the ultimate harbinger of the state of our society: the advertising game. The VAST majority of advertisements are structured to pander to your "superiority". That smart, knowing wife, nodding smugly as her dipshit husband soils his shirt again. The happy family, internetting away while Dad smugly and confidently sits back knowing that Xfinity has his best interests to heart. Or that ad for Stuplicity, new wonderdrug, that YOU of all people have to ask your DOCTOR about, since you know better!
I deleted my Facebook account during the 2016 election. It's been very nice.
I never had Twatter but I get almost daily texts of Twatter political posts. These posts have no context at all. They are one-sided bitesized fastfood bits of "insight" for people who already on "the right side". I just cannot imagine being that outraged all the time.
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I was on Facebook and Twitter when they came out but deleted my Facebook account years ago. Twitter I was on until fairly recently to follow some political journalists but it's rough in there and was too much distraction. DTF is the only online people interaction I do now.
I am of a firm belief that social media is awful for most people's state of mind. Essentially, you're making The Me Show one post at at time. People aren't equipped to be any good at it, nor should they be. The thing people are most concerned with above everything else is how well received the last post of The Me Show was, which leans toward self-obsession and disappointment because, as I said before, people aren't any good at it. The stuff people post is mainly shit, and deep-down, they know it.
OR they think they are good at it and it leads to increased narcissism.
And there's all that other shit well covered in the media. It's a serious detriment to people's lives. I make my living because of the internet but it's the one thing I'd uninvent if I were galactic overlord.
I use group messenger apps for various groups of friends and family.
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um... that's actually creating dangerous road/driving conditions. :tdwn to anyone doing that. I'm surprised there isn't something in the HOA by-laws that prevent this.
No kidding; I totalled my car back in '89 in part due to wet leaves in the road (oh, and speeding!). Seriously, though, it CAN be dangerous.
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um... that's actually creating dangerous road/driving conditions. :tdwn to anyone doing that. I'm surprised there isn't something in the HOA by-laws that prevent this.
No kidding; I totalled my car back in '89 in part due to wet leaves in the road (oh, and speeding!). Seriously, though, it CAN be dangerous.
It gets pretty bad on a bike, we have some really nice roads near my house but with a lot of tree coverage and it can be sketcy riding. I've a few moments where the back tire kicked out a bit in a turn.
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um... that's actually creating dangerous road/driving conditions. :tdwn to anyone doing that. I'm surprised there isn't something in the HOA by-laws that prevent this.
No kidding; I totalled my car back in '89 in part due to wet leaves in the road (oh, and speeding!). Seriously, though, it CAN be dangerous.
It gets pretty bad on a bike, we have some really nice roads near my house but with a lot of tree coverage and it can be sketcy riding. I've a few moments where the back tire kicked out a bit in a turn.
There are times out where I live where I'd prefer to be driving in snow rather than on wet leaves. I feel like I can predict what my car is going to do in snow. Wet leaves, not so much.
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um... that's actually creating dangerous road/driving conditions. :tdwn to anyone doing that. I'm surprised there isn't something in the HOA by-laws that prevent this.
No kidding; I totalled my car back in '89 in part due to wet leaves in the road (oh, and speeding!). Seriously, though, it CAN be dangerous.
It gets pretty bad on a bike, we have some really nice roads near my house but with a lot of tree coverage and it can be sketcy riding. I've a few moments where the back tire kicked out a bit in a turn.
There are times out where I'd live where I'd prefer to be driving in snow rather than on wet leaves. I feel like I can predict what my car is going to do in snow. Wet leaves, not so much.
Oh, don’t worry. Yesterday, both my next door neighbor and the one across the street from her blew their driveway-to-street leaves into piles on the shoulder of the road. One of the stacks is seriously seven feet long and about 18 inches high. If you’re going to go that far, why not just rake and bag the damn things or dump them in your yard waste bin for collection?
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And this is why I love living in a neighborhood with little trees. I've never had to rake this yard.
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When grown adults, particularly my wife, refer to a meal as "yummy" especially in the context of a sentence. "The way the capers and a hint of thyme add to the overall flavor of the broth makes this soup particularly yummy."
When I go to my local news channel's website, and see a banner with a countdown to the Winter Olympics, which are, as of today, 84 days away. Who the heck is keeping track of when the Olympics start this far in advance?
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And this is why I love living in a neighborhood with little trees. I've never had to rake this yard.
Our development is fairly new and the trees are still young in our neighborhood and while the lack of leave in our neighborhood and yards is nice there is something really charming about driving through a neighborhood that has large, old trees.
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When people use "inception" to mean a thing inside a thing instead of what it actually means in the movie - which is to plant an idea in someone's mind
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I drove 5 hours today (2.5 hours each way, including a stop at my dad's about halfway) to meet someone who wasn't there, because he caught covid. Obviously this sucks way more for that person, because this person had it badly, but I'm slightly pissed that I spent an entire day for nothing, and that I planned my entire week (rescheduling work, getting the day of) around this appointment which was important to me.
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I drove 5 hours today (2.5 hours each way, including a stop at my dad's about halfway) to meet someone who wasn't there, because he caught covid. Obviously this sucks way more for that person, because this person had it badly, but I'm slightly pissed that I spent an entire day for nothing, and that I planned my entire week (rescheduling work, getting the day of) around this appointment which was important to me.
That does suck. I would see that as due to lack of communication.
From both ends. That person didnt inform you he wasn't going to show up, and also any communication from you to verify he will show up, which would've prevented this issue.
Communication works both ways and I see this happen a lot when unexpected things happen where the communication can't be had. Like maybe, that person had no way to inform you of not being able to meet, if they did get it that bad to where they are unable to physically communicate. Especially if no one else knows of the meet-up.
I think this is why companies have confirmation messages to confirm your appointment, and should inform you of any cancellations on their end.
It's sucks when unfortunately, situations occur where communication can't be had and both parties suffer, one from the reason they can't show up and the other for being the one having wasted time, when they could be doing something else with that wasted time.
That's how I tend to view these types of situations out of ones control.
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It's funny you mention that, because I actually thought of sending him an e-mail yesterday as a reminder that I would be coming over, but then I didn't bother, because we scheduled the meeting, he confirmed it, why would he not be at his work space? I think he may have been too sick to think of cancelling appointments. I hope he'll be okay!
At least I got to see my dad and his wife :)
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FedEx reminded me today why they are so awful. Nothing ever sent through them has been right or made sense.
Package ships about 55 miles due north from me where there is a major FedEx hub. They then ship 75 miles due East and 70 miles away from me. They then send it another 45 miles straight south. From there, they put it on a truck for delivery (over 50 miles away). It never came and now they cannot tell me when they expect delivery.
Why is it so hard for them? UPS, USPS, and even the terrible DHL wipes the floor with them.
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FedEx reminded me today why they are so awful. Nothing ever sent through them has been right or made sense.
Package ships about 55 miles due north from me where there is a major FedEx hub. They then ship 75 miles due East and 70 miles away from me. They then send it another 45 miles straight south. From there, they put it on a truck for delivery (over 50 miles away). It never came and now they cannot tell me when they expect delivery.
Why is it so hard for them? UPS, USPS, and even the terrible DHL wipes the floor with them.
Authorities say a FedEx driver dumped hundreds of packages into an Alabama ravine
https://www.npr.org/2021/12/01/1060507288/fedex-delivery-dumped-ravine-alabama
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FedEx reminded me today why they are so awful. Nothing ever sent through them has been right or made sense.
Package ships about 55 miles due north from me where there is a major FedEx hub. They then ship 75 miles due East and 70 miles away from me. They then send it another 45 miles straight south. From there, they put it on a truck for delivery (over 50 miles away). It never came and now they cannot tell me when they expect delivery.
Why is it so hard for them? UPS, USPS, and even the terrible DHL wipes the floor with them.
Authorities say a FedEx driver dumped hundreds of packages into an Alabama ravine
https://www.npr.org/2021/12/01/1060507288/fedex-delivery-dumped-ravine-alabama
"The company directed customers with any questions to track their shipments online."
Still treating customers like shyte.
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Understanding that it blows to lose something you ordered, what's not "shyte"? I've had this exact same problem with USPS; there are packages that the system doesn't track well. But I'm not sure what "better" looks like.
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Understanding that it blows to lose something you ordered, what's not "shyte"? I've had this exact same problem with USPS; there are packages that the system doesn't track well. But I'm not sure what "better" looks like.
Offering something more than regular/standard 'go serve yourself' when you employed someone who intentionally and maliciously discarded the product customers have paid for. It's just piss-poor customer service. Compensation and a live person for customer support for starters. These customers (and shippers) deserve white-glove treatment for these packages - not a "business-as-usual" (literally) kind of response.
Imagine if, in 1982, JnJ's outgoing voice mail said "we apologize for the recent quality control challenges, but wish to assure all of our customers that safety is our #1 priority. Please leave a message at the tone and someone will call you back within 5 business days".
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As someone who deals with shipping issues on a daily basis, here's my insight into things:
From my understanding, Fed Ex on the whole is dealing with bottlenecks at some of their main hubs, so they are ferrying some shipments to smaller hubs to try and keep things moving. All of the major shipping companies are doing this, btw. As an example, if you order from my company, and you live in the Chicago area, Fed Ex will pick up from us on the west side of Fort Wayne, and take it to their sorting facility in New Haven, on the east side of Fort Wayne. From there, it may go to Perrysburg, OH, just outside of Toledo, before making its way to the Chicago area. I've seen that happen a lot. Also, Fed Ex Ground and Fed Ex are essentially two different businesses operating under the same umbrella. Fed Ex Ground is typically franchised, and the quality of the service varies from city to city. Some operations are good, others not so much. Anything that ships via Fed Ex Express, like Priority and Standard Overnight, 2-Day, and 3-Day Saver, is handled by Fed Ex proper, and overall, they're pretty good. As far as I understand, UPS doesn't operate in the same way. USPS is its own thing. Generally okay, but tracking is not as good as it is with Fed Ex and UPS.
Also, with Fed Ex, it can sometimes help to contact the seller, rather than Fed Ex itself. More often than not, Fed Ex will tell you to contact the seller. It can be frustrating, trust me, but that's typically how it goes.
As far as the issue in Alabama is concerned, that's beyond messed up, and I hope something is being done to make it right.
I hope that answers some questions. I've worked in internet retail for 11 years now, and since the pandemic began, I've had to become an expert in supply chain issues, shipping logistics, and so on. So if anyone has any questions, let me know.
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Understanding that it blows to lose something you ordered, what's not "shyte"? I've had this exact same problem with USPS; there are packages that the system doesn't track well. But I'm not sure what "better" looks like.
Offering something more than regular/standard 'go serve yourself' when you employed someone who intentionally and maliciously discarded the product customers have paid for. It's just piss-poor customer service. Compensation and a live person for customer support for starters. These customers (and shippers) deserve white-glove treatment for these packages - not a "business-as-usual" (literally) kind of response.
Imagine if, in 1982, JnJ's outgoing voice mail said "we apologize for the recent quality control challenges, but wish to assure all of our customers that safety is our #1 priority. Please leave a message at the tone and someone will call you back within 5 business days".
I'll give you that; I had an issue with a Grateful Dead order I placed. They sent it by UPS, who delivered it to the local USPS office, who then was to deliver it to my house. Except, the Dead used an old address, and so it went to the wrong USPS office. Trying to call both the post offices in question to talk to a live person was like trying to reach the President in the Oval Office. Ridiculous.
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Lego and Costco's customer service are the gold standard for how anything from a customer relations standpoint should be handled.
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FedEx reminded me today why they are so awful. Nothing ever sent through them has been right or made sense.
Package ships about 55 miles due north from me where there is a major FedEx hub. They then ship 75 miles due East and 70 miles away from me. They then send it another 45 miles straight south. From there, they put it on a truck for delivery (over 50 miles away). It never came and now they cannot tell me when they expect delivery.
Why is it so hard for them? UPS, USPS, and even the terrible DHL wipes the floor with them.
And today they continue to show their ineptitude. Out for delivery from the same place over 50 miles away. Late this afternoon a Uhaul short box truck pulls up in front of my driveway. Guy gets out and opens the back to show a slew of packages. I assume this is FedEx. Guy spends 20-30 minutes moving packages around. Stacking some in the road, on the bumper, moving stuff all around. He puts it all back, closes the door and leaves without delivering a thing. I see him pull out of the subdivision on go on his way.
Just checked the status, delayed. Now I won't get it until sometime next week because they suck as a delivery company. Seriously, why have they never gotten something right when delivering to my house? 14 years and every single FedEx package has had some sort of issue. Thankfully, it has not been many, but that only makes it worse. UPS is here almost weekly, if not multiple times a week. Never an issue.
Suck it FedEx.
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FedEx reminded me today why they are so awful. Nothing ever sent through them has been right or made sense.
Package ships about 55 miles due north from me where there is a major FedEx hub. They then ship 75 miles due East and 70 miles away from me. They then send it another 45 miles straight south. From there, they put it on a truck for delivery (over 50 miles away). It never came and now they cannot tell me when they expect delivery.
Why is it so hard for them? UPS, USPS, and even the terrible DHL wipes the floor with them.
And today they continue to show their ineptitude. Out for delivery from the same place over 50 miles away. Late this afternoon a Uhaul short box truck pulls up in front of my driveway. Guy gets out and opens the back to show a slew of packages. I assume this is FedEx. Guy spends 20-30 minutes moving packages around. Stacking some in the road, on the bumper, moving stuff all around. He puts it all back, closes the door and leaves without delivering a thing. I see him pull out of the subdivision on go on his way.
Just checked the status, delayed. Now I won't get it until sometime next week because they suck as a delivery company. Seriously, why have they never gotten something right when delivering to my house? 14 years and every single FedEx package has had some sort of issue. Thankfully, it has not been many, but that only makes it worse. UPS is here almost weekly, if not multiple times a week. Never an issue.
Suck it FedEx.
:rollin :rollin :rollin
I don't mean to laugh, but that is classic.
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To keep TAC amused, I just checked the status and found another gem.
Their excuse for not delivering? Bad weather caused a delay and it was not safe. It was 50F and sunny all day yesterday. If that is extreme weather for them, it explains a lot. :facepalm:
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FedEx reminded me today why they are so awful. Nothing ever sent through them has been right or made sense.
Package ships about 55 miles due north from me where there is a major FedEx hub. They then ship 75 miles due East and 70 miles away from me. They then send it another 45 miles straight south. From there, they put it on a truck for delivery (over 50 miles away). It never came and now they cannot tell me when they expect delivery.
Why is it so hard for them? UPS, USPS, and even the terrible DHL wipes the floor with them.
And today they continue to show their ineptitude. Out for delivery from the same place over 50 miles away. Late this afternoon a Uhaul short box truck pulls up in front of my driveway. Guy gets out and opens the back to show a slew of packages. I assume this is FedEx. Guy spends 20-30 minutes moving packages around. Stacking some in the road, on the bumper, moving stuff all around. He puts it all back, closes the door and leaves without delivering a thing. I see him pull out of the subdivision on go on his way.
Just checked the status, delayed. Now I won't get it until sometime next week because they suck as a delivery company. Seriously, why have they never gotten something right when delivering to my house? 14 years and every single FedEx package has had some sort of issue. Thankfully, it has not been many, but that only makes it worse. UPS is here almost weekly, if not multiple times a week. Never an issue.
Suck it FedEx.
I've been seeing a lot of that kind of thing lately. Ever since Amazon started hiring free-lance delivery people, that's been a thing. My stepson is big into cars and trucks (he just bought two shitty Ford F350's and is going to make one "good" truck out of them, that kind of thing). And a buddy of his went out and bought a box truck so he could freelance deliveries like that. Apparently it's good money, but you have to wonder, if it's that easy - go find a box truck - the skill level can't be all that high.
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The weather.
It is almost 10pm in the Chicago area. It is 63F out - IN MID-DECEMBER!. The wind is a sustained 44mph with frequent gusts over 50mph. The sound is freaking me out and I know I will not sleep well. I do not want to walk outside and see what has decided to leave my house after this. Even better, it's garbage night. Our trucks roll by around 5am and there is no freakin' way I can even think of putting my cans out. Even, even better, this is supposed to go all night and not end until 9am tomorrow where we will get a break of 35-40mph gusts for the day.
This has become common in the change of seasons and it gives me migraines. I hate it.
EDIT: And I woke up to missing siding. I hate this weather. Every freakin' year I get damage from winds during a change of season. Either Winter to Spring or Fall to Winter. Never fails. And I might lose even more as the winds are still bad right now.
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People who live next to a volcano and complain because there's lava in the living room. :yeahright
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When my wife won't let us trash/donate something, because someone, regardless of who it was or how long ago it was, gave it to us as a gift.
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When my wife won't let us trash/donate something, because someone, regardless of who it was or how long ago it was, gave it to us as a gift.
I don't mean to be a topper, but my wife insisted -- for about 20 years after we met -- that her Christmas tree ornaments HAD TO stay in a ratty old copy paper box that was falling apart because the box came from her father or mother (I can't remember which at this point).
The other one for me (and I feel like this has been discussed before) is that we have 3-4 plastic bins in the garage full of our kids' baby/toddler clothes and stuffed animals from when they were little. Needless to say, "what are we EVER going to do with this stuff?!" is not well-received.
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When my wife won't let us trash/donate something, because someone, regardless of who it was or how long ago it was, gave it to us as a gift.
I don't mean to be a topper, but my wife insisted -- for about 20 years after we met -- that her Christmas tree ornaments HAD TO stay in a ratty old copy paper box that was falling apart because the box came from her father or mother (I can't remember which at this point).
The other one for me (and I feel like this has been discussed before) is that we have 3-4 plastic bins in the garage full of our kids' baby/toddler clothes and stuffed animals from when they were little. Needless to say, "what are we EVER going to do with this stuff?!" is not well-received.
I used to work with a guy that had a rule - if he or his wife hadn't touched something in more than a year, they got rid of it or sold it. I loved that idea.
My wife tends to be the same way, but she actively re-sells our kid's old clothing and toys. She's made about $500 take home in the last few kids resales. Then again, she has a box of old newspapers from the 1980's that she wants to save simply because her parents thought to save them. It's not like just a few issues with important dates. It's just a bin of random papers.
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I used to work with a guy that had a rule - if he or his wife hadn't touched something in more than a year, they got rid of it or sold it. I loved that idea.
My wife tends to be the same way, but she actively re-sells our kid's old clothing and toys. She's made about $500 take home in the last few kids resales. Then again, she has a box of old newspapers from the 1980's that she wants to save simply because her parents thought to save them. It's not like just a few issues with important dates. It's just a bin of random papers.
That could get weird if they ever have a length run of celibacy.
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My girlfriend's chihuahua.
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Is that what the kids are calling it these days? :) :) :) :) :)
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:lol
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Is that what the kids are calling it these days? :) :) :) :) :)
:lol :lol :lol
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When my wife won't let us trash/donate something, because someone, regardless of who it was or how long ago it was, gave it to us as a gift.
I don't mean to be a topper, but my wife insisted -- for about 20 years after we met -- that her Christmas tree ornaments HAD TO stay in a ratty old copy paper box that was falling apart because the box came from her father or mother (I can't remember which at this point).
I consider myself topped.
What is up with flashlights these days? Nearly every single flashlight has multiple modes: high beam, low beam, strobe... and you have to cycle through each mode via one button. So if you used it on low beam last, the next time you turn it on, it will be in strobe mode. I just want a goddamn flashlight that has one normal beam that turns on and off the same way each time. If I want to start a rave I will buy an appropriate light for that purpose.
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When my wife won't let us trash/donate something, because someone, regardless of who it was or how long ago it was, gave it to us as a gift.
I don't mean to be a topper, but my wife insisted -- for about 20 years after we met -- that her Christmas tree ornaments HAD TO stay in a ratty old copy paper box that was falling apart because the box came from her father or mother (I can't remember which at this point).
I consider myself topped.
What is up with flashlights these days? Nearly every single flashlight has multiple modes: high beam, low beam, strobe... and you have to cycle through each mode via one button. So if you used it on low beam last, the next time you turn it on, it will be in strobe mode. I just want a goddamn flashlight that has one normal beam that turns on and off the same way each time. If I want to start a rave I will buy an appropriate light for that purpose.
That got a full-on laugh out loud.
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When my wife won't let us trash/donate something, because someone, regardless of who it was or how long ago it was, gave it to us as a gift.
I don't mean to be a topper, but my wife insisted -- for about 20 years after we met -- that her Christmas tree ornaments HAD TO stay in a ratty old copy paper box that was falling apart because the box came from her father or mother (I can't remember which at this point).
The other one for me (and I feel like this has been discussed before) is that we have 3-4 plastic bins in the garage full of our kids' baby/toddler clothes and stuffed animals from when they were little. Needless to say, "what are we EVER going to do with this stuff?!" is not well-received.
I used to work with a guy that had a rule - if he or his wife hadn't touched something in more than a year, they got rid of it or sold it. I loved that idea.
My wife tends to be the same way, but she actively re-sells our kid's old clothing and toys. She's made about $500 take home in the last few kids resales. Then again, she has a box of old newspapers from the 1980's that she wants to save simply because her parents thought to save them. It's not like just a few issues with important dates. It's just a bin of random papers.
I had a talk with my wife about this because she loves buying things and then moving them into the garage where they never come out. I told her if it's going in the garage, it's going on her side of the garage. After parking her car and having to get into it in 20 degree weather she has agreed to get rid of a lot of the stuff :lol
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Run flat tires, I really hate them. Today is one of those days where nothing seems to be going right and one of those things is I ran over a pretty big bolt that put a large hole in my tire. I have run flats so I had to drive home on 0 PSI and now I have to wait to get my tire placed.
They are also expensive as hell, if I didn't have tire insurance I'd be out $380 for this tire.
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tire insurance?
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Yea, when I got my car they offered tire insurance so if you get any nails or damage to your tires the replacement is free. I've already replaced one tire (wife got a big nail in it first month I had the car) and now tire number two so it's already paid for itself.
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Seemingly, there were a number of incidents this weekend where I was exasperated.
One that I've written about before: the reality TV trope of everyone having a story. I was watching three disparate shows - America's Worst Cooks, The Chase, and American Gladiators, 1,000 Lb Sisters - and man, it's impossible to watch any of these shows without some intricate, complicated back story. I've got enough problems in this world; do people really find this compelling? To me, it's exhausting.
I've said this before, and I'm sure I'll say it again: when everyone has a story, NO ONE has a story. Hardship and adversity - when it's REAL hardship and adversity, and believe me, some of this is not "adversity" - is a fact of life, not an entitlement.
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Seemingly, there were a number of incidents this weekend where I was exasperated.
One that I've written about before: the reality TV trope of everyone having a story. I was watching three disparate shows - America's Worst Cooks, The Chase, and American Gladiators, 1,000 Lb Sisters - and man, it's impossible to watch any of these shows without some intricate, complicated back story. I've got enough problems in this world; do people really find this compelling? To me, it's exhausting.
I've said this before, and I'm sure I'll say it again: when everyone has a story, NO ONE has a story. Hardship and adversity - when it's REAL hardship and adversity, and believe me, some of this is not "adversity" - is a fact of life, not an entitlement.
But...you ARE watching no?
Also, everyone does have a story. It may or may not include some kind of adversity, but it's their story nonetheless.
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When my wife won't let us trash/donate something, because someone, regardless of who it was or how long ago it was, gave it to us as a gift.
I don't mean to be a topper, but my wife insisted -- for about 20 years after we met -- that her Christmas tree ornaments HAD TO stay in a ratty old copy paper box that was falling apart because the box came from her father or mother (I can't remember which at this point).
I consider myself topped.
What is up with flashlights these days? Nearly every single flashlight has multiple modes: high beam, low beam, strobe... and you have to cycle through each mode via one button. So if you used it on low beam last, the next time you turn it on, it will be in strobe mode. I just want a goddamn flashlight that has one normal beam that turns on and off the same way each time. If I want to start a rave I will buy an appropriate light for that purpose.
That got a full-on laugh out loud.
Haha, I totally read that highlighted sentence in Mitch Hedberg's voice, too, and it made it even funnier!!
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Our microwave died on Saturday.
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Seemingly, there were a number of incidents this weekend where I was exasperated.
One that I've written about before: the reality TV trope of everyone having a story. I was watching three disparate shows - America's Worst Cooks, The Chase, and American Gladiators, 1,000 Lb Sisters - and man, it's impossible to watch any of these shows without some intricate, complicated back story. I've got enough problems in this world; do people really find this compelling? To me, it's exhausting.
I've said this before, and I'm sure I'll say it again: when everyone has a story, NO ONE has a story. Hardship and adversity - when it's REAL hardship and adversity, and believe me, some of this is not "adversity" - is a fact of life, not an entitlement.
But...you ARE watching no?
Also, everyone does have a story. It may or may not include some kind of adversity, but it's their story nonetheless.
Some I do watch (the cooks one) and some I don't - I'm done with the 1,000 lb sisters and the 90-day Fiances.
And yes, everyone does have a story; that's the point. On these shows, the stories are meant to be a badge, a shield, a differentiator. If we all have a story, it's not a differentiator, unless one wants to get to the level of sort of quantifying adversity. What's worse, losing a kid or battling cancer? Does it matter if it's you battling the cancer, or your spouse? It'd be nice to have someone come on these shows and just say "Yeah, I'm doing this because I love to cook" or "I want to be able to impress chicks!" (I joke with my wife about that all the time; "honey, I'm going to go on there and be honest. I'm on this show so I can shut my wife and kids up about how well I cook!". Or "I'm on this show to beat James Holzauer and gloat to my friends at the bar, bitches!") Instead, it's tear-soaked people pointing to the sky, pounding their chest and making that asinine "heart shape thingy" with their hands, proving their emotional investment. Don't forget, these are the same people telling you to fuck off in the grocery line, or leaving their carts in the sidewalk, or flipping you the bird on the highway, or calling you deplorable/libtard.
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I'm gonna start calling people who don't return their carts to the corral "deplorables." :) :) :)
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Seemingly, there were a number of incidents this weekend where I was exasperated.
One that I've written about before: the reality TV trope of everyone having a story. I was watching three disparate shows - America's Worst Cooks, The Chase, and American Gladiators, 1,000 Lb Sisters - and man, it's impossible to watch any of these shows without some intricate, complicated back story. I've got enough problems in this world; do people really find this compelling? To me, it's exhausting.
I've said this before, and I'm sure I'll say it again: when everyone has a story, NO ONE has a story. Hardship and adversity - when it's REAL hardship and adversity, and believe me, some of this is not "adversity" - is a fact of life, not an entitlement.
Well...first, everyone DOES have a story, and everyone's story is different. Second, American Gladiators? Is that show back or are you watching episodes from 30+ years ago? Third, when I watch The Chase, I usually fast-forward through the contestant interviews (same with Jeopardy). Fourth, I know nothing about the show, but if you're going to watch a show called "1,000 LB Sisters," you're basically asking for that kind of garbage.
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Seemingly, there were a number of incidents this weekend where I was exasperated.
One that I've written about before: the reality TV trope of everyone having a story. I was watching three disparate shows - America's Worst Cooks, The Chase, and American Gladiators, 1,000 Lb Sisters - and man, it's impossible to watch any of these shows without some intricate, complicated back story. I've got enough problems in this world; do people really find this compelling? To me, it's exhausting.
I've said this before, and I'm sure I'll say it again: when everyone has a story, NO ONE has a story. Hardship and adversity - when it's REAL hardship and adversity, and believe me, some of this is not "adversity" - is a fact of life, not an entitlement.
But...you ARE watching no?
Also, everyone does have a story. It may or may not include some kind of adversity, but it's their story nonetheless.
Technically yes but I see what Bill means. Its a compelling argument and both arguments definitely have merit.
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Seemingly, there were a number of incidents this weekend where I was exasperated.
One that I've written about before: the reality TV trope of everyone having a story. I was watching three disparate shows - America's Worst Cooks, The Chase, and American Gladiators, 1,000 Lb Sisters - and man, it's impossible to watch any of these shows without some intricate, complicated back story. I've got enough problems in this world; do people really find this compelling? To me, it's exhausting.
I've said this before, and I'm sure I'll say it again: when everyone has a story, NO ONE has a story. Hardship and adversity - when it's REAL hardship and adversity, and believe me, some of this is not "adversity" - is a fact of life, not an entitlement.
Well...first, everyone DOES have a story, and everyone's story is different. Second, American Gladiators? Is that show back or are you watching episodes from 30+ years ago? Third, when I watch The Chase, I usually fast-forward through the contestant interviews (same with Jeopardy). Fourth, I know nothing about the show, but if you're going to watch a show called "1,000 LB Sisters," you're basically asking for that kind of garbage.
I think, respectfully, you and TAC are missing my point. Which is, in it's own meta way, exasperating. This is the thread that keeps on giving! :) :) :) My point is that the stories they tell aren't about human interest, it's about DIFFERENTIATING and JUSTIFYING their entitlement. Currency, if you will. As if their very presence on the show is tied to that story. As you both noted (and I agree) we all have stories. They don't amount to entitlement. Do I get to go in to the grocery store and say "well, my dad has cancer; how about you give me 60 seconds to collect 10 items from the aisles?" Of course not. You two don't spend much time in the P/R threads, but this is all connected to that. It breeds a further sense of entitlement, and frustration and insecurity when OUR stories aren't "heard".
American Gladiators was me being funny; it's American Ninja Warrior, which is interesting when the contestants are hanging by their fingernails from a wooden block screwed to a huge rotating gear. Not so much in between events when they're dabbing and dancing and mugging for the camera.
And specifically about 1,000 LB Sisters, not really. There are four kids in this family. The oldest, who rarely appears on camera, seems to be relatively normal and well-adjusted (thus, the rarely on camera). The two sisters were both in excess of 500 pounds each. One, the older, dieted and got down to weight to get the band surgery, and has been doing well. She got married and had a kid. They have a younger brother, who is relatively normal and just got the surgery done and is on his way to losing more weight. Two really impressive success stories. People who, without a lot of fanfare, and with no melodrama, tackled their problem with humility, honesty, and determination. The youngest sister is now upwards of 650 pounds. She's her own worst enemy. Not for nothing, always has a phone in her hand, trolling the internet, finding "boyfriends" (that all seem to just so happen to be BBW chasers, one of whom kept telling her how beautiful she'd be when she hits 750).
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I totally put a disclaimer in that it could be misunderstanding the point. ;D
I’ll read through the above post when I get home.
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Women.
Not all of them. Just one in particular, right now. :facepalm: :lol
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Women.
Just one in particular
I'M EXASPERATED BY YOUR GODDAMN GRAMMATICAL INCONSISTENCY.
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American Gladiators was me being funny; it's American Ninja Warrior, which is interesting when the contestants are hanging by their fingernails from a wooden block screwed to a huge rotating gear. Not so much in between events when they're dabbing and dancing and mugging for the camera.
That's the beauty of the DVR. Unless my wife wants to watch the back-story, I skip through everything that isn't the actual competing.
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American Gladiators was me being funny; it's American Ninja Warrior, which is interesting when the contestants are hanging by their fingernails from a wooden block screwed to a huge rotating gear. Not so much in between events when they're dabbing and dancing and mugging for the camera.
That's the beauty of the DVR. Unless my wife wants to watch the back-story, I skip through everything that isn't the actual competing.
I do a lot of that as well. Dancing With The Stars is another one; I LOVE the dancing. I really do. The choreography, the costumes, the athleticism... Whenever Tyra Banks is on screen (or, formerly, Erin Andrews) or whenever someone starts to cry in a taped segment, I'm hitting the two sideways triangles. :)
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Women.
Not all of them. Just one in particular, right now. :facepalm: :lol
Norm: "Women. Can't live with 'em.... pass the beer nuts, please."
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Whistlers. Fuck em, each and every one. Nobody wants to hear your inane noise, and you're probably to self-absorbed to realize how much it annoys everybody else around you.
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Whistlers. Fuck em, each and every one. Nobody wants to hear your inane noise, and you're probably to self-absorbed to realize how much it annoys everybody else around you.
This is right up there with people telling me a story about a dream they had that takes longer than four seconds to tell.
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Whistlers. Fuck em, each and every one. Nobody wants to hear your inane noise, and you're probably to self-absorbed to realize how much it annoys everybody else around you.
I know a guy like that, he's awful!
And don't even get me started on his mother!
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Women.
Just one in particular
I'M EXASPERATED BY YOUR GODDAMN GRAMMATICAL INCONSISTENCY.
:lol :lol :biggrin:
Women.
Not all of them. Just one in particular, right now. :facepalm: :lol
Norm: "Women. Can't live with 'em.... pass the beer nuts, please."
:rollin
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Whistlers. Fuck em, each and every one. Nobody wants to hear your inane noise, and you're probably to self-absorbed to realize how much it annoys everybody else around you.
Oh man, I almost posted this very thing yesterday, but I forgot to.
So at my work station in the backroom, I have music playing. It's not blaring but it's on. When this one dude from the meat department walks by to bale some cardboard, he fucking starts whistling. I'm like, I have fucking music playing STFU!
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The following phrase: Speak your/my own truth!
What the actual fuck does that mean? At this point, I'm 99% sure that anyone who says or writes that is something whose "truth" I don't care about in the slightest.
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The following phrase: Speak your/my own truth!
What the actual fuck does that mean? At this point, I'm 99% sure that anyone who says or writes that is something whose "truth" I don't care about in the slightest.
Yup, that's like when someone says "I have a right to my opinion", which leads me to automatically think, "and I have a right to not give a fuck.".
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The following phrase: Speak your/my own truth!
What the actual fuck does that mean? At this point, I'm 99% sure that anyone who says or writes that is something whose "truth" I don't care about in the slightest.
I've written about this before. I'm with you 100%. My truth is your truth sucks balls.
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The following phrase: Speak your/my own truth!
What the actual fuck does that mean? At this point, I'm 99% sure that anyone who says or writes that is something whose "truth" I don't care about in the slightest.
Yup, that's like when someone says "I have a right to my opinion", which leads me to automatically think, "and I have a right to not give a fuck.".
It's like they think something being "my opinion" somehow insulates it from attack.
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Seemingly, there were a number of incidents this weekend where I was exasperated.
One that I've written about before: the reality TV trope of everyone having a story. I was watching three disparate shows - America's Worst Cooks, The Chase, and American Gladiators, 1,000 Lb Sisters - and man, it's impossible to watch any of these shows without some intricate, complicated back story. I've got enough problems in this world; do people really find this compelling? To me, it's exhausting.
I've said this before, and I'm sure I'll say it again: when everyone has a story, NO ONE has a story. Hardship and adversity - when it's REAL hardship and adversity, and believe me, some of this is not "adversity" - is a fact of life, not an entitlement.
Well...first, everyone DOES have a story, and everyone's story is different. Second, American Gladiators? Is that show back or are you watching episodes from 30+ years ago? Third, when I watch The Chase, I usually fast-forward through the contestant interviews (same with Jeopardy). Fourth, I know nothing about the show, but if you're going to watch a show called "1,000 LB Sisters," you're basically asking for that kind of garbage.
I think, respectfully, you and TAC are missing my point. Which is, in it's own meta way, exasperating. This is the thread that keeps on giving! :) :) :) My point is that the stories they tell aren't about human interest, it's about DIFFERENTIATING and JUSTIFYING their entitlement. Currency, if you will. As if their very presence on the show is tied to that story. As you both noted (and I agree) we all have stories. They don't amount to entitlement. Do I get to go in to the grocery store and say "well, my dad has cancer; how about you give me 60 seconds to collect 10 items from the aisles?" Of course not. You two don't spend much time in the P/R threads, but this is all connected to that. It breeds a further sense of entitlement, and frustration and insecurity when OUR stories aren't "heard".
American Gladiators was me being funny; it's American Ninja Warrior, which is interesting when the contestants are hanging by their fingernails from a wooden block screwed to a huge rotating gear. Not so much in between events when they're dabbing and dancing and mugging for the camera.
And specifically about 1,000 LB Sisters, not really. There are four kids in this family. The oldest, who rarely appears on camera, seems to be relatively normal and well-adjusted (thus, the rarely on camera). The two sisters were both in excess of 500 pounds each. One, the older, dieted and got down to weight to get the band surgery, and has been doing well. She got married and had a kid. They have a younger brother, who is relatively normal and just got the surgery done and is on his way to losing more weight. Two really impressive success stories. People who, without a lot of fanfare, and with no melodrama, tackled their problem with humility, honesty, and determination. The youngest sister is now upwards of 650 pounds. She's her own worst enemy. Not for nothing, always has a phone in her hand, trolling the internet, finding "boyfriends" (that all seem to just so happen to be BBW chasers, one of whom kept telling her how beautiful she'd be when she hits 750).
My brain must not be working, which is entirely possible. If what you're saying is that backstories on reality type shows...Ninja, American Idol...whatever are useless and annoying, then I'm with you.
I guess I'm not understanding the "entitlement' part.
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My line about reality TV is, "I watch TV to get away from reality."
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Women.
Not all of them. Just one in particular, right now. :facepalm: :lol
Nah......it's all of them.
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Women.
Not all of them. Just one in particular, right now. :facepalm: :lol
Nah......it's all of them.
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/566/702/3f2.jpeg)
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What I find exasperating is that men with shitty taste in companions complain about women. Fuck you guys. Y'all need to hang with better people.
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What I find exasperating is that men with shitty taste in companions complain about women. Fuck you guys. Y'all need to hang with better people.
Nah I just realized once and for all I'm too selfish with myself and my time and get annoyed easily. Also it was just kind of a joke. Kind of. Maybe. :lol
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My brain must not be working, which is entirely possible. If what you're saying is that backstories on reality type shows...Ninja, American Idol...whatever are useless and annoying, then I'm with you.
I guess I'm not understanding the "entitlement' part.
With you I am on both points (except that I'd delete the "I guess" part from the second sentence). :)
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My brain must not be working, which is entirely possible. If what you're saying is that backstories on reality type shows...Ninja, American Idol...whatever are useless and annoying, then I'm with you.
I guess I'm not understanding the "entitlement' part.
With you I am on both points (except that I'd delete the "I guess" part from the second sentence). :)
The implication is that the "story" sets them apart, and entitles them to some relief of some kind. Or at least justifies any win that might result. As opposed to just being a part of the trials and tribulations of life. Which of course is what the game show is.
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My brain must not be working, which is entirely possible. If what you're saying is that backstories on reality type shows...Ninja, American Idol...whatever are useless and annoying, then I'm with you.
I guess I'm not understanding the "entitlement' part.
With you I am on both points (except that I'd delete the "I guess" part from the second sentence). :)
The implication is that the "story" sets them apart, and entitles them to some relief of some kind. Or at least justifies any win that might result. As opposed to just being a part of the trials and tribulations of life. Which of course is what the game show is.
I think "the story" is more to engage viewers, no? To create drama to keep you and the Mrs interested in finding out how they do..no?
It's ultimately why we stopped watching American Idol. I want to watch people sing. That's the entertainment. I don't mind a little background here are there, but I don't want to watch some long winded history of a contestant's issues. Honestly, I don't care. I understand that when I read the news online, I will come across some tragedy in the news, and well, I have set aside that particular time for that. To read up on stuff. But when I sit down to watch American Idol, or Ninja Warrior, or fucking Dance Moms, I just want to see the singing, the obstacle course, or the dancing.
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What I find exasperating is that men with shitty taste in companions complain about women. Fuck you guys. Y'all need to hang with better people.
Shitty taste in companions. :lol
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What I find exasperating is that men with shitty taste in companions complain about women. Fuck you guys. Y'all need to hang with better people.
Fuck you start drinking early! :biggrin:
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My brain must not be working, which is entirely possible. If what you're saying is that backstories on reality type shows...Ninja, American Idol...whatever are useless and annoying, then I'm with you.
I guess I'm not understanding the "entitlement' part.
With you I am on both points (except that I'd delete the "I guess" part from the second sentence). :)
The implication is that the "story" sets them apart, and entitles them to some relief of some kind. Or at least justifies any win that might result. As opposed to just being a part of the trials and tribulations of life. Which of course is what the game show is.
I think "the story" is more to engage viewers, no? To create drama to keep you and the Mrs interested in finding out how they do..no?
It's ultimately why we stopped watching American Idol. I want to watch people sing. That's the entertainment. I don't mind a little background here are there, but I don't want to watch some long winded history of a contestant's issues. Honestly, I don't care. I understand that when I read the news online, I will come across some tragedy in the news, and well, I have set aside that particular time for that. To read up on stuff. But when I sit down to watch American Idol, or Ninja Warrior, or fucking Dance Moms, I just want to see the singing, the obstacle course, or the dancing.
Same...and I've never thought anyone was trying to use a back-story to convince me that anyone deserved or was entitled to anything. And, like you said, when the back-stories became more of the focus than the actual signing is when I bailed on AI.
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The style of music that seemed to made the top 12 wore me down. I just wasn't into it.
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The style of music that seemed to made the top 12 wore me down. I just wasn't into it.
Same. I watched seasons 4, 7 and some of 8 (Carrie Underwood, David Cook and Adam Lambert). Not sure why I skipped 5 and 6. The only person on any of those seasons I liked was Carly Smithson.
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My brain must not be working, which is entirely possible. If what you're saying is that backstories on reality type shows...Ninja, American Idol...whatever are useless and annoying, then I'm with you.
I guess I'm not understanding the "entitlement' part.
With you I am on both points (except that I'd delete the "I guess" part from the second sentence). :)
The implication is that the "story" sets them apart, and entitles them to some relief of some kind. Or at least justifies any win that might result. As opposed to just being a part of the trials and tribulations of life. Which of course is what the game show is.
I think "the story" is more to engage viewers, no? To create drama to keep you and the Mrs interested in finding out how they do..no?
It's ultimately why we stopped watching American Idol. I want to watch people sing. That's the entertainment. I don't mind a little background here are there, but I don't want to watch some long winded history of a contestant's issues. Honestly, I don't care. I understand that when I read the news online, I will come across some tragedy in the news, and well, I have set aside that particular time for that. To read up on stuff. But when I sit down to watch American Idol, or Ninja Warrior, or fucking Dance Moms, I just want to see the singing, the obstacle course, or the dancing.
Same...and I've never thought anyone was trying to use a back-story to convince me that anyone deserved or was entitled to anything. And, like you said, when the back-stories became more of the focus than the actual signing is when I bailed on AI.
Other than PG not thinking the back-story is purposeful for the entitlement, we're saying the same things here, largely. I guess I just think it's of more importance or substance than you guys do. I think it's indicative of a mindset. I think it's part and parcel with our overall approach in the U.S. today. You can disagree, but I see it in so many places (some of which I have cited here, like the woman on Twitter who was pissed that people didn't respond better to her Tweet about her husband dying).
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So in the last couple of days, I've read about planes having to return to an airport because of some jackass refusing to wear a mask. But the kicker is is that charges are not likely to be filed.
WUT?
The inconvenience for everyone else is immeasurable. I have a question for the lawyers out there...
For anyone that lost out on a vacation of whatever, can they file a civil suit against the person?
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So in the last couple of days, I've read about planes having to return to an airport because of some jackass refusing to wear a mask. But the kicker is is that charges are not likely to be filed.
WUT?
The inconvenience for everyone else is immeasurable. I have a question for the lawyers out there...
For anyone that lost out on a vacation of whatever, can they file a civil suit against the person?
Can they file lawsuits? Sure. Anyone can sue anyone. I can sue you for liking Thin Lizzy. I won't win, but I can sue.
The question is what's the legal basis for the claim, and I'm not sure what cause of action the other passengers might allege. Negligence? No. Maybe intentional or negligent infliction of emotional distress, but I think both of them would be, at best, questionable. I think this would fall into the same category as the people who are inconvenienced (possibly to the point of losing business or a job) because someone drove like an ass and caused a traffic accident that snarled traffic. I'll be curious if anyone else has other ideas.
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So in the last couple of days, I've read about planes having to return to an airport because of some jackass refusing to wear a mask. But the kicker is is that charges are not likely to be filed.
WUT?
The inconvenience for everyone else is immeasurable. I have a question for the lawyers out there...
For anyone that lost out on a vacation of whatever, can they file a civil suit against the person?
Can they file lawsuits? Sure. Anyone can sue anyone. I can sue you for liking Thin Lizzy. I won't win, but I can sue.
The question is what's the legal basis for the claim, and I'm not sure what cause of action the other passengers might allege. Negligence? No. Maybe intentional or negligent infliction of emotional distress, but I think both of them would be, at best, questionable. I think this would fall into the same category as the people who are inconvenienced (possibly to the point of losing business or a job) because someone drove like an ass and caused a traffic accident that snarled traffic. I'll be curious if anyone else has other ideas.
Of course you won't win, cause they kick ass!
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Right. You cannot sue for liking Thin Lizzy. Pretty sure that's an actual law or something.
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Right. You cannot sue for liking Thin Lizzy. Pretty sure that's an actual law or something.
If you tried to sue them, that would surely give you a bad reputation.
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It'd surely be getting dangerous.
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My air con in my car has shit itself. Right in the middle of summer. Excellent.
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My air con in my car has shit itself. Right in the middle of summer. Excellent.
Come hang at my place. It's currently 4F and feels like -5F.
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I thought they always announced that wearing a mask on a place was required by federal law? Which would imply failure to do so would have consequences.
I would never suggest or recommend this, nor would I ever participate in this, but one of these days I wonder if passengers are going to give one of these guys the Private Pyle treatment from Full Metal Jacket.
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My air con in my car has shit itself. Right in the middle of summer. Excellent.
Come hang at my place. It's currently 4F and feels like -5F.
Do you know how to fix car air cons?
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My air con in my car has shit itself. Right in the middle of summer. Excellent.
Come hang at my place. It's currently 4F and feels like -5F.
Do you know how to fix car air cons?
Yeah. I take it to my mechanic. :lol
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My air con in my car has shit itself. Right in the middle of summer. Excellent.
Come hang at my place. It's currently 4F and feels like -5F.
Do you know how to fix car air cons?
Yeah. I take it to my mechanic. :lol
Alright, I'll come and hang and give him a call while I'm there to book it in.
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This isn't so much exasperating as something I find hinky/weird/don't understand: When someone says, "I'm so proud of ___," with the blank being filled in by the name of a person that the speaker doesn't know personally and has never met. Makes no sense to me how one can have pride in a person he or she doesn't know and hasn't ever met.
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This isn't so much exasperating as something I find hinky/weird/don't understand: When someone says, "I'm so proud of ___," with the blank being filled in by the name of a person that the speaker doesn't know personally and has never met. Makes no sense to me how one can have pride in a person he or she doesn't know and hasn't ever met.
Wow, it's funny; I was thinking that last night while watching our local news.
Which leads to another exasperation: we're getting a storm of some sort Saturday, with the actual impact still in some doubt. Storm goes more east, I get 1" to 3" inches, and TAC gets to move a foot and a half of snow. Storm goes more west, I get a foot of snow, and TAC gets to move a foot and a half of snow. :) So I'm watching the local news more than usual and more than just "5:00", and it hit me: other than weather and sports, there is virtually NO news on the newscasts. It's all stories and anecdotes and feel-good pieces. A story about a kid that developed an app that helps identify what stores have COVID tests. Another story about a group that does "Make-A-Wish" type gestures. Another story about the ongoing fight about whether gyms could have "women's only" sections. Another story about a local pool company that took payment for two different installation jobs and the owner got arrested because they didn't deliver the pools thanks to one of the customers. It struck me that none of those stories was simply the presentation of facts, left for me to draw a conclusion. They were specifically intended to elicit an EMOTIONAL response, and intended to lead you to a conclusion.
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It struck me that none of those stories was simply the presentation of facts, left for me to draw a conclusion. They were specifically intended to elicit an EMOTIONAL response, and intended to lead you to a conclusion.
One of many reasons why I abandoned any sort of TV news broadcast about a decade and a half ago.
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Similar to Stadlers post. The weather network. "What is in store for this week... spoilers ahead" Who in the blue fuck writes shit like this for the report of weather. So now I have to click on this and read a whole article of BS before I find out this "spoiler". Again, this is a weather report. And it wouldn't be so bad if their damn site wasn't so damn slow in loading.
F U theweathernetwork.com >:(
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:lol :lol :lol
Ummm...isn't the whole point of a weather report to be a "spoiler"?
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This isn't so much exasperating as something I find hinky/weird/don't understand: When someone says, "I'm so proud of ___," with the blank being filled in by the name of a person that the speaker doesn't know personally and has never met. Makes no sense to me how one can have pride in a person he or she doesn't know and hasn't ever met.
Never really thought of that. Not sure how often I encounter this, but I guarantee I will be aware of the next time it happens now.
Similarly, and also along the lines of "This isn't so much exasperating as something I find hinky/weird/don't understand," when people congratulate someone who had nothing to do with the achievement worth the congratulations. For example, when someone congratulates someone else because the team that person roots for wins a championship. That person had nothing to do with it, they just sat on their couch and cheered for them.
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Similar to Stadlers post. The weather network. "What is in store for this week... spoilers ahead" Who in the blue fuck writes shit like this for the report of weather. So now I have to click on this and read a whole article of BS before I find out this "spoiler". Again, this is a weather report. And it wouldn't be so bad if their damn site wasn't so damn slow in loading.
F U theweathernetwork.com >:(
It's why I always use the National Weather Service.
https://www.weather.gov/
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:lol :lol :lol
Ummm...isn't the whole point of a weather report to be a "spoiler"?
Pff, I guess. :justjen
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Similarly, and also along the lines of "This isn't so much exasperating as something I find hinky/weird/don't understand," when people congratulate someone who had nothing to do with the achievement worth the congratulations. For example, when someone congratulates someone else because the team that person roots for wins a championship. That person had nothing to do with it, they just sat on their couch and cheered for them.
Yeah...you're right. There's really no logic to it, but I both gave and received a bunch of congratulations when the Kings won their two Stanley Cups. The other thing that came to mind when I read your post was when people congratulate the parents of a bride and groom. Even if the parents paid for some or all the wedding, they didn't really accomplish anything themselves. I suspect it's a vestige of a time long past when parents supported their kids until they were married and it was shameful to have a kid not married by a certain age.
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Yeah, it's like we need a new word to express "Hey, I am happy for you and appreciate your excitement over what you are experiencing..."
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Yeah, it's like we need a new word to express "Hey, I am happy for you and appreciate your excitement over what you are experiencing..."
How about...
Congratulations! :neverusethis:
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So...I live on a street that is about a half mile down the street from a park, and to get out of the neighborhood, it's a straight shot up my street and past the park. Not surprisingly, there are flag football and soccer games and youth baseball practices and parties at the park, so lots of people park on the street next to and across the street from the park. These people are constantly sitting there with their doors open into traffic -- sometimes getting kids out of car seats, but just as often they're standing there talking to other people. And the people who park on the other side of the street just mosey across the street without looking. And there is barely enough room on the street for cars to be parked on both sides while cars drive past in both lanes. Earlier today I was going somewhere and this woman walks across the street in front of me, and while I slowed down to avoid hitting her, some ass clown pops his door open into the street. All I can say is that I'm glad I live further down the street and not across the street from the park.
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Tired of hearing any iteration of "you got this" seems like every other damn commercial has it. Hear it at work all the time too now.
"Alright team! We got this!" Yay everyone fist bumps.
Screw fistbumps too while we are at it.
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Tired of hearing any iteration of "you got this" seems like every other damn commercial has it. Hear it at work all the time too now.
"Alright team! We got this!" Yay everyone fist bumps.
Screw fistbumps too while we are at it.
I'm with you 1000%. It's also a running joke with my wife and I; when we hear someone say "I got this!" on TV, whether it's a scripted show or a reality show, you know INSTANTLY that they, in fact, are in deep trouble.
I'd also extend it to any of the current crop of self-inflating, self-actualizing buzzwords. We've devolved into a nation of big talkers and slow walkers. I'm watching "Next Level Chef" last night with my wife, and I paused it at one point and said "I wish these people would shut the fuck up and just COOK for Pete's sake". And sure enough, the one who "got this" and was "on her journey" and was ready to "take it to the next level" got sent home. And of course, she's in the elevator and making the stupid "heart symbol" with her hands.
God I hate people sometimes.
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I guess buzzwords all together. I am not even kidding:
Hey guys, let work together to get this project done right. Luke can you lead this project?
Becomes:
Hey team, lets synergize and execute with exellence. Luke will you champion this project?
synergize, execute with exellence. chamion. lol.
And the funny thing is: The amount of grammatical and spelling errors while these bosses send these type of emails is facepalming. Professional emails. And the way they type it is literally worse than what I am doing here on a forum for fun while having a drink. They structure their shit like this with all those stupid buzzwords. and everyone is lopping it up
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synergize, execute with exellence. chamion. lol.
And the funny thing is: The amount of grammatical and spelling errors while these bosses send these type of emails is facepalming.
Oh really? ;D
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Exactly. And that is here. At work they dont' champagnion teh speling
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I think we had this conversation once; might have been over at Mike's old place... Not here, because it's informal, but at work? I absolutely think that things like spelling and grammar matter, and that people are judged on that. I'm religious about having my work correspondence be as accurate as I can.
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I absolutely think that things like spelling and grammar matter, and that people are judged on that.
I absolutely judge anyone at work who can't write grammatically correct texts. Especially if that's my first impression of the person.
That only applies to my native language though. I can butcher English here in any way I want as I don't speak English at work anyway. :biggrin:
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For Stadler and the topic here a couple weeks ago... my wife's sister is staying with us, and at dinner they realized they are watching a few of the same reality/competition shows, and both expressed how they love to hear each person's story and what struggles they've had to endure.
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For Stadler and the topic here a couple weeks ago... my wife's sister is staying with us, and at dinner they realized they are watching a few of the same reality/competition shows, and both expressed how they love to hear each person's story and what struggles they've had to endure.
God bless 'em, Chris. Still makes me want to poke my eyes out with a fork. :) :) :) :)
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Yeah, I mean my wife’s sister is nuts too.
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I think it's high time we reconsider the concept of the crosswalk. In general, I think they're good and necessary ideas. In practice people seem to have completely forgotten how they work. I drive right across the middle of SMU a few times a day, and when I'm in an area designed for foot traffic I'm inclined to stop for people in crosswalks, as per the agreed upon rule. My first notion was simply that a pedestrian holding a phone up to his face forfeits right of way. Seems pretty simple. I'll stop for people approaching crosswalks, as they have the right of way, and expecting me to plow right on through they'll stop and send a text. Won't even look to see that I've stopped for them. Turns out that it's not just them, though. Easily half the people I encounter either don't understand that they get to go, or they think it's a trap and I'm going to get all Death Race 2000 their silly asses. Seems to me that if pedestrians aren't going to use them expediently we should just do away with them and let them either take their chances or walk to the nearest intersection.
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"It's a trap!" That was funny. Don't hit my kid, but feel free to tell her to put the goddamn phone away and pay attention!
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When I worked in downtown LA, I was driving home one day and was approaching an intersection where I was going to turn right, and I had a green arrow (meaning the crosswalk that I was about to cross had a solid red hand. Traffic was moving, which means I was slowing from about 25 mph to make the turn. As I was approaching the corner, I could see a guy jogging on the sidewalk (going the same direction I was) and showing no sign that he was going to stop at the crosswalk (DTLA isn't NYC, but folks still cross against the crosswalk signal on occasion). I was just about to make the turn when he got about 5 feet from the crosswalk and hadn't slowed down, so I blasted my horn. He stopped so hard that he nearly fell down on the sidewalk. I proceeded to make my turn unobstructed and had a good laugh about what a clown this guy was.
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I think it's high time we reconsider the concept of the crosswalk. In general, I think they're good and necessary ideas. In practice people seem to have completely forgotten how they work. I drive right across the middle of SMU a few times a day, and when I'm in an area designed for foot traffic I'm inclined to stop for people in crosswalks, as per the agreed upon rule. My first notion was simply that a pedestrian holding a phone up to his face forfeits right of way. Seems pretty simple. I'll stop for people approaching crosswalks, as they have the right of way, and expecting me to plow right on through they'll stop and send a text. Won't even look to see that I've stopped for them. Turns out that it's not just them, though. Easily half the people I encounter either don't understand that they get to go, or they think it's a trap and I'm going to get all Death Race 2000 their silly asses. Seems to me that if pedestrians aren't going to use them expediently we should just do away with them and let them either take their chances or walk to the nearest intersection.
I personally haven't experienced this, at least not enough to take note. But it makes me wonder if the pedestrian reaction is due to car drivers not stopping as they should. I see that often enough in my experience of drivers just going through cross walks with people waiting to cross. To me, that type of behavior is very common where it's a selfish act of the driver but also just people generally don't understand the rules of the road and definitely don't understand right of way (apparently my gf never heard of right of way in a recent drive together when she hit a 4 way stop sign and didn't follow the right of way).
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Amen, Bart. I hate when I wave someone across and they cross like a fucking caterpillar. Get going.
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Amen, Bart. I hate when I wave someone across and they cross like a fucking caterpillar. Get going.
Yeah, I always try to jog across when there are cars waiting. Partly it's to minimize exposure, but mostly it's because I don't like being a dick.
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Amen, Bart. I hate when I wave someone across and they cross like a fucking caterpillar. Get going.
Yeah, I always try to jog across when there are cars waiting. Partly it's to minimize exposure, but mostly it's because I don't like being a dick.
Yup.
It's the rudeness that is exasperating.
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So for the 2nd time now, I have received a glass item from Amazon that shows up in a million pieces due to inept packing of the product. I know it shouldn't be surprising but I have to shake my head at the customer service follow up.
"Would you like to print the return label or receive a QR code?"
"What for? I cannot ship back broken glass. No carrier service will legally take broken glass."
"Oh. I see. Then we will need you to return the parts that aren't broken."
"The parts covered in millions of glass shards? You expect me to risk injury to myself handling an item covered in glass? I don't think so. Do you want to pay my medical bills from the stitches I may need? Not to mention the fact that the parts that aren't 'broken' are damaged from all the cut glass."
"Oh. Let me ask my lead."
*waiting*
"Ok. This one time we will allow you to receive a replacement without having to make a return."
"Gee....thanks I guess? For 'allowing' me to obtain the item I purchased without receiving it completely useless because of your negligence?"
::)
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So for the 2nd time now, I have received a glass item from Amazon that shows up in a million pieces due to inept packing of the product. I know it shouldn't be surprising but I have to shake my head at the customer service follow up.
"Would you like to print the return label or receive a QR code?"
"What for? I cannot ship back broken glass. No carrier service will legally take broken glass."
"Oh. I see. Then we will need you to return the parts that aren't broken."
"The parts covered in millions of glass shards? You expect me to risk injury to myself handling an item covered in glass? I don't think so. Do you want to pay my medical bills from the stitches I may need? Not to mention the fact that the parts that aren't 'broken' are damaged from all the cut glass."
"Oh. Let me ask my lead."
*waiting*
"Ok. This one time we will allow you to receive a replacement without having to make a return."
"Gee....thanks I guess? For 'allowing' me to obtain the item I purchased without receiving it completely useless because of your negligence?"
::)
I don't think its illegal to ship broken glass. You would need to ship it in a non-pierceable, rigid plastic or metal container with and it would need to be classed, marked and handled as "hazardous goods" but it would be doable. Expensive and pointless, but possible.
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I'm really feeling that meme of turning 30 and falling apart. I'm 35 and in the past 3 years I've had 1 sinus surgery, 3 dental surgeries, and I'm pretty sure I just got a hernia. Getting old is exasperating....
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I just bought two headlights that came in as the wrong ones (can't tell if it was my error or theirs). I did the return on-line, and dropped the box off, unsealed, at my local Amazon drop-off point, a UPS store the next town over. I had my money back in literally 30 minutes, and it couldn't have been easier. Is that an option?
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Yeah, I'm not schlepping this box full of finely broken glass in my car to an Amazon drop off location.
I am doing that for the wrong box of drawer pulls they sent me, but not this. They can eat glass. :P
(https://i.imgur.com/J6yfLmC.jpg)
FTR that plastic bag that contains most of the broken glass ripped apart upon lifting it out of the box. The pan with the shattered lid was also full of shards and the nonstick coating on the pan is essentially useless. Interestingly, I did offer to send them the photo so they could see what I was talking about but they said they didn't want to see it.
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"What for? I cannot ship back broken glass. No carrier service will legally take broken glass."
Huh? That's not true. There's no law prohibiting the shipment of broken glass (nor is there a need to mark it as "hazardous goods," as someone else mentioned). Whether a particular carrier would accept a shipment is something I can't speak to, but why would you tell the carrier what's in the box?
That said, I'm not surprised they relented. Amazon's return policy is very liberal.
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Amazon's return policy is very liberal.
This, but also, I would have just sent it back without the details "broken" and return it goes. But yeah, definitely does suck.
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"What for? I cannot ship back broken glass. No carrier service will legally take broken glass."
Huh? That's not true. There's no law prohibiting the shipment of broken glass (nor is there a need to mark it as "hazardous goods," as someone else mentioned). Whether a particular carrier would accept a shipment is something I can't speak to, but why would you tell the carrier what's in the box?
That said, I'm not surprised they relented. Amazon's return policy is very liberal.
Maybe things have changed but I had a side gig about 7 years ago that meant mailing/shipping items all over the world several times a week and every time I dropped them off to send out they asked me about hazardous materials which included broken glass and told me that would be prohibited to send through USPS, FedEx, UPS. Maybe that is just the spiel they say and it doesn't mean anything but lord knows I heard it about a thousand times. So glad I don't do that anymore.
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I'm pretty sure the USPS needs a warrant to open your package. I would lie to them if I were sending something they may not like. Not like I know this from experience or anything....
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So for the 2nd time now, I have received a glass item from Amazon that shows up in a million pieces due to inept packing of the product. I know it shouldn't be surprising but I have to shake my head at the customer service follow up.
"Would you like to print the return label or receive a QR code?"
"What for? I cannot ship back broken glass. No carrier service will legally take broken glass."
"Oh. I see. Then we will need you to return the parts that aren't broken."
"The parts covered in millions of glass shards? You expect me to risk injury to myself handling an item covered in glass? I don't think so. Do you want to pay my medical bills from the stitches I may need? Not to mention the fact that the parts that aren't 'broken' are damaged from all the cut glass."
"Oh. Let me ask my lead."
*waiting*
"Ok. This one time we will allow you to receive a replacement without having to make a return."
"Gee....thanks I guess? For 'allowing' me to obtain the item I purchased without receiving it completely useless because of your negligence?"
::)
I gather you don't live anywhere near a Whole Foods. Anyplace with an Amazon drop box will work for that situation. WF doesn't even care if you wrap it back up or not. Just hand them the pieces and it's their problem.
edit: Ninja'd repeatedly.
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"What for? I cannot ship back broken glass. No carrier service will legally take broken glass."
Huh? That's not true. There's no law prohibiting the shipment of broken glass (nor is there a need to mark it as "hazardous goods," as someone else mentioned). Whether a particular carrier would accept a shipment is something I can't speak to, but why would you tell the carrier what's in the box?
That said, I'm not surprised they relented. Amazon's return policy is very liberal.
Maybe things have changed but I had a side gig about 7 years ago that meant mailing/shipping items all over the world several times a week and every time I dropped them off to send out they asked me about hazardous materials which included broken glass and told me that would be prohibited to send through USPS, FedEx, UPS. Maybe that is just the spiel they say and it doesn't mean anything but lord knows I heard it about a thousand times. So glad I don't do that anymore.
If I had a nickel for every time someone told me that "x" was "illegal" when it really wasn't, I could buy you an entire replacement set of pans.
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I'm really feeling that meme of turning 30 and falling apart. I'm 35 and in the past 3 years I've had 1 sinus surgery, 3 dental surgeries, and I'm pretty sure I just got a hernia. Getting old is exasperating....
I am 40 tomorrow. My lower back is getting more and more achy. Generally getting up is more achy. Yes, getting old is exasperating. Still though, surprise "not surprise" 40 bday bash on Saturday. I will be very achy Sunday. :lol
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"What for? I cannot ship back broken glass. No carrier service will legally take broken glass."
Huh? That's not true. There's no law prohibiting the shipment of broken glass (nor is there a need to mark it as "hazardous goods," as someone else mentioned). Whether a particular carrier would accept a shipment is something I can't speak to, but why would you tell the carrier what's in the box?
That said, I'm not surprised they relented. Amazon's return policy is very liberal.
Maybe things have changed but I had a side gig about 7 years ago that meant mailing/shipping items all over the world several times a week and every time I dropped them off to send out they asked me about hazardous materials which included broken glass and told me that would be prohibited to send through USPS, FedEx, UPS. Maybe that is just the spiel they say and it doesn't mean anything but lord knows I heard it about a thousand times. So glad I don't do that anymore.
If I had a nickel for every time someone told me that "x" was "illegal" when it really wasn't, I could buy you an entire replacement set of pans.
Yup. In the volunteer work I do, I frequently hear folks asking if they can have criminal charges thrown out solely because the cop didn't read Miranda warnings or people thinking that simply living with someone else for X years creates a common law marriage. I also see a meme on Facebook pretty frequently that is based on parents having told their kids that it's illegal to drive barefoot or with the dome light on.
Harmony, it's possible that a shipper may have a policy that prohibits certain things that aren't prohibited by law, and they feel like it will get more traction if they say or imply that it's illegal rather than just against policy.
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So.. today I went shopping at Columbia for a spring jacket for my wife for Easter. I was in a section looking around and these two ladies that work there were like, "Excuse me, we would like to take a picture."
My first thought was..'Hmm they must want to show someone shopping, a male model if you will'. I was literally about to ask 'where do you want me to stand' when one of them says, "We don't want to get you in the picture" :facepalm:
Apparently they just needed a picture of their section all set up. :lol
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So.. today I went shopping at Columbia for a spring jacket for my wife for Easter. I was in a section looking around and these two ladies that work there were like, "Excuse me, we would like to take a picture."
My first thought was..'Hmm they must want to show someone shopping, a male model if you will'. I was literally about to ask 'where do you want me to stand' when one of them says, "We don't want to get you in the picture" :facepalm:
Apparently they just needed a picture of their section all set up. :lol
Day drinking on a Wednesday? Damn.
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Being asked to move to avoid being in someone else's selfie is a feeling unlike any other.
From the subcategory of things that exasperate me but shouldn't... when my wife adds something to our family calendar after it happened. Meaning, if we have a vet appt last Tuesday and it didn't make it on the calendar, she will add it despite it having already occurred.
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So.. today I went shopping at Columbia for a spring jacket for my wife for Easter. I was in a section looking around and these two ladies that work there were like, "Excuse me, we would like to take a picture."
My first thought was..'Hmm they must want to show someone shopping, a male model if you will'. I was literally about to ask 'where do you want me to stand' when one of them says, "We don't want to get you in the picture" :facepalm:
Apparently they just needed a picture of their section all set up. :lol
Day drinking on a Wednesday? Damn.
TAC's optimisim is infectious.
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So.. today I went shopping at Columbia for a spring jacket for my wife for Easter. I was in a section looking around and these two ladies that work there were like, "Excuse me, we would like to take a picture."
My first thought was..'Hmm they must want to show someone shopping, a male model if you will'. I was literally about to ask 'where do you want me to stand' when one of them says, "We don't want to get you in the picture" :facepalm:
Apparently they just needed a picture of their section all set up. :lol
Day drinking on a Wednesday? Damn.
TAC's optimisim is infectious.
Nah. He's been married too long. Can't read women anymore. A beaten down mule. :lol
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So apparently there is some made up poutrage over how people end their emails. It is no longer acceptable to write "Best" or "Regards" because they are somehow passive aggressive?
:huh:
After some consideration, I've decided that my email sign off will now be, "I blame millenials" :P
Curious as to how you all do it.
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I see nothing wrong with Best or Regards. Why would anyone think that's passive aggressive?
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So apparently there is some made up poutrage over how people end their emails. It is no longer acceptable to write "Best" or "Regards" because they are somehow passive aggressive?
:huh:
After some consideration, I've decided that my email sign off will now be, "I blame millenials" :P
Curious as to how you all do it.
Hm, those are my two goto sigh-offs—care to elaborate?
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You guys - I'm not saying it makes sense. LoL I don't know why. I'm trying to figure it out myself.
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My emails end with a period. :hat
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And apparently, I'm late to the discussion. But I did find this article that talks about it from September of 2020.
https://junkee.com/best-email-signoff/269254
I do like the idea of using, "moist" :laugh:
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I see nothing wrong with Best or Regards. Why would anyone think that's passive aggressive?
Because it's Thursday.
Call me novel, or a woke trendsetter, but most often I don't sign off my emails with any salutation. I put "Bill", or "WMF", or if it's external at work, I'll put my signature (which is my full name and contact info). I do have a preference for "As always I remain," though I never use it. Let's see some woke-ass punk try to malign THAT one! You don't know me! You'll NEVER know me! :) :) :)
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During the worst of the pandemic, I was signing off with Be well / stay safe.
But yeah... otherwise, "Regards" is my go to if I feel the need for anything.
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(https://i.imgur.com/6ofyQFw.jpg)
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I see nothing wrong with Best or Regards. Why would anyone think that's passive aggressive?
Because it's Thursday.
Call me novel, or a woke trendsetter, but most often I don't sign off my emails with any salutation. I put "Bill", or "WMF", or if it's external at work, I'll put my signature (which is my full name and contact info). I do have a preference for "As always I remain," though I never use it. Let's see some woke-ass punk try to malign THAT one! You don't know me! You'll NEVER know me! :) :) :)
I will NEVER call you a 'woke trendsetter'
Insults like that will get a man banned around these parts ;D
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You know what's exasperating? The hypocrisy and arbitrariness of these kinds of crises. I'm eternally fascinated how variable it is that we either have to outright accept (not tolerate, accept) others as they are, at our peril, or we have to force them to conform to our, sometimes arbitrary, sometimes subjective, view of the world. If we're supposed to accept someone else unconditionally for their politics, their sexuality, their gender (or lack thereof), or any of a million other things, shouldn't we then also accept their chosen expression of well-being (or not)?
As always, I remain,
Stadler
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Maybe you all will find this funny... my wife's ex used to end his phone calls and some emails to her with "Go Fuck Yourself". With the emails, though, he would often just abbreviate them "GFY". A couple years later, there was a contempt motion/restraining order motion filed in court, and he had to testify and he was asked what "GFY" stood for; with a straight face he said "God Forgives You". I had to give him credit for that one.
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I see nothing wrong with Best or Regards. Why would anyone think that's passive aggressive?
Because it's Thursday.
Call me novel, or a woke trendsetter, but most often I don't sign off my emails with any salutation. I put "Bill", or "WMF", or if it's external at work, I'll put my signature (which is my full name and contact info). I do have a preference for "As always I remain," though I never use it. Let's see some woke-ass punk try to malign THAT one! You don't know me! You'll NEVER know me! :) :) :)
“As always I remain” tells me your stuck in your ways and unable to be awoken! :P
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Maybe you all will find this funny... my wife's ex used to end his phone calls and some emails to her with "Go Fuck Yourself". With the emails, though, he would often just abbreviate them "GFY". A couple years later, there was a contempt motion/restraining order motion filed in court, and he had to testify and he was asked what "GFY" stood for; with a straight face he said "God Forgives You". I had to give him credit for that one.
My brother in law had a tattoo on the back of his neck "FTS." Which meant Fuck the System. He got pulled over by a cop and the cop asked him what it meant, obviously knowing what it meant. He told the cop, "It's my dad's initials." "Frank Thomas Sakers." :lol
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You know what's exasperating? The hypocrisy and arbitrariness of these kinds of crises. I'm eternally fascinated how variable it is that we either have to outright accept (not tolerate, accept) others as they are, at our peril, or we have to force them to conform to our, sometimes arbitrary, sometimes subjective, view of the world. If we're supposed to accept someone else unconditionally for their politics, their sexuality, their gender (or lack thereof), or any of a million other things, shouldn't we then also accept their chosen expression of well-being (or not)?
As always, I remain,
Stadler
Well said...that's why I choose to not sweat the small stuff like email sign-offs. Unfortuantely, as I get older, I more and more feel like 'not sweating the small stuff' is a dying/lost art.
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I see nothing wrong with Best or Regards. Why would anyone think that's passive aggressive?
Because it's Thursday.
Call me novel, or a woke trendsetter, but most often I don't sign off my emails with any salutation. I put "Bill", or "WMF", or if it's external at work, I'll put my signature (which is my full name and contact info). I do have a preference for "As always I remain," though I never use it. Let's see some woke-ass punk try to malign THAT one! You don't know me! You'll NEVER know me! :) :) :)
“As always I remain” tells me your stuck in your ways and unable to be awoken! :P
(https://i.imgur.com/f7FdEdG.jpg)
I knew a guy that had an emblem in his cube DILLIGAF. Do I look like I <surely ya'll can finish it>
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I would still love to know what the issue is with 'Regards.'
I fear that it's something similar to the whole 'pronouns' thing.
I do not have my preferred pronouns in my email signature, and it was recently pointed out to me that this essentially makes me ANIT-LGBTQ (which could not be further from the truth).
Go figure.
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So apparently there is some made up poutrage over how people end their emails. It is no longer acceptable to write "Best" or "Regards" because they are somehow passive aggressive?
:huh:
After some consideration, I've decided that my email sign off will now be, "I blame millenials" :P
Curious as to how you all do it.
I end most of my work emails with:
"Regards,
Paul"
Followed by the auto-generated footer with my full name, title, etc. Or, sometimes, I just put "Regards,"
I'm considering a switch to "Imperiously yours,"
When I was president of my kid's high school band boosters, I'd just use the auto-generated footer with my name and "[school name] Band Booster President, 2021-22." I'll usually end personal emails (which are pretty rare these days) with just my first name or nothing.
I can't even conceive why anyone would think "Best" or "Regards" is passive aggressive.
I would still love to know what the issue is with 'Regards.'
I fear that it's something similar to the whole 'pronouns' thing.
I do not have my preferred pronouns in my email signature, and it was recently pointed out to me that this essentially makes me ANIT-LGBTQ (which could not be further from the truth).
Go figure.
I've started noticing people with pronouns in their signatures (so far, nothing other than the traditional "he/him/his" and "she/her/hers"), and I've also noticed a few law firms have this in their attorney profiles. I hope you soundly thrashed the person who suggested that not having this made you "anti-LGBTLMNOP+-@*."
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I would still love to know what the issue is with 'Regards.'
I fear that it's something similar to the whole 'pronouns' thing.
I do not have my preferred pronouns in my email signature, and it was recently pointed out to me that this essentially makes me ANIT-LGBTQ (which could not be further from the truth).
Go figure.
I've started noticing people with pronouns in their signatures (so far, nothing other than the traditional "he/him/his" and "she/her/hers"), and I've also noticed a few law firms have this in their attorney profiles. I hope you soundly thrashed the person who suggested that not having this made you "anti-LGBTLMNOP+-@*."
Well, there's always the matter of what I 'want' to say, and what I actually say.
I learned (the hard way) long ago that the high-road is the only road for me.
Still, I continue to unwittingly be late to the proverbial PC party.
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Lots of people where I work started adding pronouns to their signatures. I just removed my signature.
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IMO, though many forms of "wokeness" are ridiculous and over the top, there are some that show growth and evolution of society/humanity. To me (though I don't do it), the practice of advertising ones pronouns is not a bad thing. For most people, the actual act of doing so is unnecessary / obvious / redundant. But for others it isn't, and the more people normalize it, the better that is for everyone. I've actually been considering doing it myself.
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IMO, though many forms of "wokeness" are ridiculous and over the top, there are some that show growth and evolution of society/humanity. To me (though I don't do it), the practice of advertising ones pronouns is not a bad thing. For most people, the actual act of doing so is unnecessary / obvious / redundant. But for others it isn't, and the more people normalize it, the better that is for everyone. I've actually been considering doing it myself.
With you 100%... my biggest gripe is this (seemingly prevalent) idea that if you’re not bearing the proverbial flag for something (such as including pronouns in an email signature), then you are part of the problem.
I was raised in a blue-collar, apolitical household. My father never voted, and never read the paper. To him, the only thing that mattered was putting food on the table. Myopic as his worldview may have been, I’ve always respected his ‘family first’ approach to all facets of his life.
He wasn’t a racist, but he would never have said ‘black lives matter’
He wasn’t anti-science, but he never went to the doctor and definitely wouldn’t get a vaccine
My point is, as someone who’s very similar to his father, I feel more and more on an island, especially at work (where everyone is 15 years younger than me). I suppose that’s just a part of getting older.
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The whole "Best", "Regards" being passive aggressive is....well weird. I end all my emails with those two, or thanks. If someone takes offense to that then they can approach me.
IMO, though many forms of "wokeness" are ridiculous and over the top, there are some that show growth and evolution of society/humanity. To me (though I don't do it), the practice of advertising ones pronouns is not a bad thing. For most people, the actual act of doing so is unnecessary / obvious / redundant. But for others it isn't, and the more people normalize it, the better that is for everyone. I've actually been considering doing it myself.
I agree with this. I personally don't have it because, in my head, it lets people know I'm neutral about it. But if someone else has it, I respect it and use it on them.
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Still, I continue to unwittingly be late to the proverbial PC party.
As someone who struggles to keep up myself, I've sort of come to the conclusion that there's no right answer, and the entire point is to keep kicking the can. As SOME point we will realize that our well-being and self-worth isn't tied to a salutation, or a pronoun, or the perceptions of people we've never met and will never interact with. But some things can't be told, they have to be learned the hard way (I call them "touch the hot stove" moments) and we're still a work in process.
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The whole "Best", "Regards" being passive aggressive is....well weird. I end all my emails with those two, or thanks. If someone takes offense to that then they can approach me.
I just use a basic work template that doesn't include any of those words, but if I am writing an email to someone and I'm asking for something in the response, Ill usually add the thanks before my name. I never really thought much at all about these unless they are really odd....
I do have a preference for "As always I remain," though I never use it.
and since I've never seen this, I'd find this a bit odd :lol
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Not for work, but sometimes I will end an email with "Cheers." I suppose that would not be PC because someone could be in recovery....
Anxiously,
Harmony
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Not for work, but sometimes I will end an email with "Cheers."
A few guys that are non American on DTF end their PM's with Cheers!
For me, I end my emails the following way..
To my wife or parents:
Love,
Tim
To friends:
Take care,
Tim
or simply:
Tim
On every other email, I end it with:
Thank you,
Tim
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I think weirdly epic and threatening signatures can be cool.
There can be only one,
Adami
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I think weirdly epic and threatening signatures can be cool.
There can be only one,
Adami
Funny, I got an email from Mario Van Peebles once, and that's exactly what his signature said! :loser:
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I think weirdly epic and threatening signatures can be cool.
There can be only one,
Adami
Funny, I got an email from Mario Van Peebles once, and that's exactly what his signature said! :loser:
Bastard is using my name?
Also you're referencing The Final Dimension? Fascinating.
There can be only one,
Adami
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I think weirdly epic and threatening signatures can be cool.
There can be only one,
Adami
Funny, I got an email from Mario Van Peebles once, and that's exactly what his signature said! :loser:
Bastard is using my name?
Also you're referencing The Final Dimension? Fascinating.
There can be only one,
Adami
I am...leave it to me to see your obscure reference and raise you and even more obscure one ;D
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Not for work, but sometimes I will end an email with "Cheers."
A few guys that are non American on DTF end their PM's with Cheers!
For me, I end my emails the following way..
To my wife, Stadler or parents:
Love,
Tim
To friends:
Take care,
Tim
or simply:
Tim
On every other email, I end it with:
Thank you,
Tim
Corrected.
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I think weirdly epic and threatening signatures can be cool.
There can be only one,
Adami
Funny, I got an email from Mario Van Peebles once, and that's exactly what his signature said! :loser:
Bastard is using my name?
Also you're referencing The Final Dimension? Fascinating.
There can be only one,
Adami
HAHAHA.
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Adami, that's so cool.
HRH,
kingshmegland.
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Not for work, but sometimes I will end an email with "Cheers." I suppose that would not be PC because someone could be in recovery....
Anxiously,
Harmony
Back when I thought I was a cool 18 year old, I used to end my emails with "Goodbye for now"
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The last email I got from Rob Halford ends thusly: "I'm looking forward to seeing each of you and thanking you in person..in the meantime I hope that these words might convey my heartfelt thanks..love Rob" (followed by "Sent from my iPad"). The other one that I kept saved ends like this: "I look forward to seeing everyone in person in the near future to shake hands and no doubt reflect on the fact that team Halford always wins the day ...love Rob."
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I end most work emails with "thanks" or "thank you," even most internal ones out of habit, but do not even get me started. No matter what you say nowadays, someone is offended or bothered by it. It's unreal. I recently read that some think calling women "ladies" is offensive. :lol :lol :lol :lol
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I have never included any signature in a personal email other than my first name, other than a "Love, " which is reserved for a select few family members/friends, and even then I only do it if responding to an email that also signed in "Love, "
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So...married guys can relate. I literally just had this conversation over dinner not a half hour ago. My wife and I will play word games on her iPad while we have dinner. She criticized my move and that I should've done something else instead. After a brief back and forth, this happened...
Me: "Why are you arguing with me?"
Her: "I'm not arguing, but you're wrong."
WTF? :lol
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So...married guys can relate. I literally just had this conversation over dinner not a half hour ago. My wife and I will play word games on her iPad while we have dinner. She criticized my move and that I should've done something else instead. After a brief back and forth, this happened...
Me: "Why are you arguing with me?"
Her: "I'm not arguing, but you're wrong."
WTF? :lol
Why were you arguing with her?
:P :P
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:lol
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Masturbate in peace :lol
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Masturbate in peace is, and should always be, a final option. It is just a matter of how many steps you are going to have to endure to get there.
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Masturbate in peace is, and should always be, a final option. It is just a matter of how many steps you are going to have to endure to get there.
How about...
...the sun comes up? :lol
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Block should say, "Let off some steam, Bennett. " :lol
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Block should say, "Let off some steam, Bennett. " :lol
WHO??
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The fuck?!
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Why are you arguing with me? :lol
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Why are you arguing with me? :lol
An iconic line from a iconic movie. You fucking pleabian. :lol
The FUUUUUCCKKK!!! :lol :lol :lol :lol
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What fucking movie are you talking about?
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I had to look that one up. A movie that should be in my wheelhouse, but never was.
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Tim for the love of God.
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I'll leave it for others who grew up in the 80's.
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I'll leave it for others who grew up in the 80's.
I'm gonna side with Tim and Chris here... it wasn't a line I immediately recognized, and wasn't even a top-5 most memorable line from that movie! You got low standards for the word "iconic", Joe. :lol
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I'm with Tim. I had zero clue until I googled it. I think I saw Commando once when it came out and not since then.
It's no "Lighten up, Francis!"
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I knew it was a Brownshwieger line but most of those movies blur together for me.
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WTF is a Brownshwieger line?
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WTF is a Brownshwieger line?
Schwarzenegger line. I never know how to spell that (had to google and copy and paste it there), so I usually say something like Brownshweiger since that's how he jokingly referred to himself in Last Action Hero.
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Chad siding with Tim is the biggest betrayal ever. :lol
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WTF is a Brownshwieger line?
Schwarzenegger line. I never know how to spell that (had to google and copy and paste it there), so I usually say something like Brownshweiger since that's how he jokingly referred to himself in Last Action Hero.
Ok gotcha. I'm pretty sure I never saw Last Action Hero, but I did buy the soundtrack.
Chad siding with Tim is the biggest betrayal ever. :lol
With friends like that, who needs enemies? :lol
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:lol
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People that can't answer the question that was asked. I'm cooking a bunch of food today that requires certain timing. Yesterday I said to my mom "What time are we eating main course tomorrow?". Her response was "I told everyone 2:30. We'll be doing apps first.". I interpreted that to mean that guests would be coming some time after noon and main course was at 2:30. I timed my entire food operation as such. Apparently 2:30 is the time people are arriving, and we're not expecting to eat main food until 4, which fucks up the timing of everything I've been working on since 6:30 this morning. I didn't ask "What time are people arriving?".
Am furious.
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WTF is a Brownshwieger line?
Schwarzenegger line. I never know how to spell that (had to google and copy and paste it there), so I usually say something like Brownshweiger since that's how he jokingly referred to himself in Last Action Hero.
FYI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braunschweiger_(sausage)
Also, I need to rewatch Last Action Hero one of these days. Isn't that the movie that featured that Queensryche song (something about Paris)?
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People that can't answer the question that was asked. I'm cooking a bunch of food today that requires certain timing. Yesterday I said to my mom "What time are we eating main course tomorrow?". Her response was "I told everyone 2:30. We'll be doing apps first.". I interpreted that to mean that guests would be coming some time after noon and main course was at 2:30. I timed my entire food operation as such. Apparently 2:30 is the time people are arriving, and we're not expecting to eat main food until 4, which fucks up the timing of everything I've been working on since 6:30 this morning. I didn't ask "What time are people arriving?".
Am furious.
Furious at your mother for not answering your question or yourself for not making sure you came to same agreement?
For planning, it's always best to make sure that everyone agrees to the same planned schedule.
My follow-up question to her answer would be, "So we are going to eat the main course at 2:30?"
Or it would be better to word the question with more details such as, "I need to know when to start making the food, so what time are you thinking of eating the main course?" Or better yet, "What time are people arriving so I have time to prepare the food? I don't want to make it too early or else it will be cold."
So, to put it bluntly, it's not only your mother's fault for not answering your question. It's also yours for not making sure what you assumed is the correct response. It would've been more beneficial for you if you were to have asked instead, "what time are people arriving?" Rather than the question you asked. That question gives you all the information you need to prepare. I would assume people should understand that it takes time to prepare and cook food, especially if it's an exquisite meal.
For my mother, she doesn't give much context for some things so I have to ask her, who? where? And what? Then I can respond because I don't know who she is talking about, where whatever occured and what that whatever was. I learned not to assume what she, or anyone, is talking about and instead ask a follow-up question to make sure we are agreeing to the same plan.
I would be furious too, but I would be furious at myself as well for not making sure my interpretation of her response was correct.
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WTF is a Brownshwieger line?
Schwarzenegger line. I never know how to spell that (had to google and copy and paste it there), so I usually say something like Brownshweiger since that's how he jokingly referred to himself in Last Action Hero.
FYI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braunschweiger_(sausage)
Also, I need to rewatch Last Action Hero one of these days. Isn't that the movie that featured that Queensryche song (something about Paris)?
The Queensryche song was Real World.
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I just looked it up, and Last Time in Paris was in Ford Fairlane (which I wouldn't watch unless you paid me).
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Taxes...
Not the fact that they exist, but they're a pain in the ass.
Last year, my 18-year old son filed a return despite not having enough income to need to file. He mistakenly checked that he could NOT be claimed as a dependent by someone else, so I was unable to e-file (even though he filed an amended return to correct that).
Fast forward to this year, I tried to e-file my return, and it got rejected because my adjusted gross income didn't match (even though I confirmed the number at the IRS website). As a result, I had to print ~20 pages of return and schedules and hand write a check and assemble the damn thing in the correct order (staple your W-2 but don't staple the check!). Ugh....
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I just looked it up, and Last Time in Paris was in Ford Fairlane (which I wouldn't watch unless you paid me).
There a remaster if Enpire that has it on it.
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Taxes...
Not the fact that they exist, but they're a pain in the ass.
Last year, my 18-year old son filed a return despite not having enough income to need to file. He mistakenly checked that he could NOT be claimed as a dependent by someone else, so I was unable to e-file (even though he filed an amended return to correct that).
Fast forward to this year, I tried to e-file my return, and it got rejected because my adjusted gross income didn't match (even though I confirmed the number at the IRS website). As a result, I had to print ~20 pages of return and schedules and hand write a check and assemble the damn thing in the correct order (staple your W-2 but don't staple the check!). Ugh....
This is why I have not done my own taxes since 1998.
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Taxes...
Not the fact that they exist, but they're a pain in the ass.
Last year, my 18-year old son filed a return despite not having enough income to need to file. He mistakenly checked that he could NOT be claimed as a dependent by someone else, so I was unable to e-file (even though he filed an amended return to correct that).
Fast forward to this year, I tried to e-file my return, and it got rejected because my adjusted gross income didn't match (even though I confirmed the number at the IRS website). As a result, I had to print ~20 pages of return and schedules and hand write a check and assemble the damn thing in the correct order (staple your W-2 but don't staple the check!). Ugh....
This is why I have not done my own taxes since 1998.
I hear you. However, with the tax software, it's normally a piece of cake. A good chunk of my exasperation goes to my kid for filing and claiming that he could not be claimed on someone else's return because that resulted in the paper filing last year, and I'm sure that's the reason for the issue this year. I just hope that it doesn't continue in future years.
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I feel like if you have an issue with your taxes, it's going to be a nightmare, but if you don't, it's pretty smooth sailing. I filed my taxes in an hour and got my refund a week later (over the weekend). I had an issue a few years ago where I didn't get my refund in a timely fashion and trying to track it down was a useless nightmare. Eventually it got paid out, but must have gotten lost in someone's drawer or something.
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Taxes...
Not the fact that they exist, but they're a pain in the ass.
Last year, my 18-year old son filed a return despite not having enough income to need to file. He mistakenly checked that he could NOT be claimed as a dependent by someone else, so I was unable to e-file (even though he filed an amended return to correct that).
Fast forward to this year, I tried to e-file my return, and it got rejected because my adjusted gross income didn't match (even though I confirmed the number at the IRS website). As a result, I had to print ~20 pages of return and schedules and hand write a check and assemble the damn thing in the correct order (staple your W-2 but don't staple the check!). Ugh....
This is why I have not done my own taxes since 1998.
I've never done my own taxes.
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I'm with Tim. I had zero clue until I googled it. I think I saw Commando once when it came out and not since then.
It's no "Lighten up, Francis!"
I go commando. Is that the same thing? Does that count?
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I'm with Tim. I had zero clue until I googled it. I think I saw Commando once when it came out and not since then.
It's no "Lighten up, Francis!"
I go commando. Is that the same thing? Does that count?
Zero clue.
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Taxes...
Not the fact that they exist, but they're a pain in the ass.
Last year, my 18-year old son filed a return despite not having enough income to need to file. He mistakenly checked that he could NOT be claimed as a dependent by someone else, so I was unable to e-file (even though he filed an amended return to correct that).
Fast forward to this year, I tried to e-file my return, and it got rejected because my adjusted gross income didn't match (even though I confirmed the number at the IRS website). As a result, I had to print ~20 pages of return and schedules and hand write a check and assemble the damn thing in the correct order (staple your W-2 but don't staple the check!). Ugh....
This is why I have not done my own taxes since 1998.
I hear you. However, with the tax software, it's normally a piece of cake. A good chunk of my exasperation goes to my kid for filing and claiming that he could not be claimed on someone else's return because that resulted in the paper filing last year, and I'm sure that's the reason for the issue this year. I just hope that it doesn't continue in future years.
I've done my own taxes, well, my whole life. I've never paid anyone to do my taxes. They are either as easy as a piece of cake, or... well, they are still easy, but sometimes you have to fill in more forms. Its a NIGHTMARE though, when you can't e-file. I've only had that once, and I hope every year it never happens again.
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So, my turn. I'm on vacation this week, in Florida. We did The Magic Kingdom today. I could fill pages on "exasperating" based on my day.
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So, my turn. I'm on vacation this week, in Florida. We did The Magic Kingdom today. I could fill pages on "exasperating" based on my day.
Please tell. We're going back this summer. It's been three years since we've been.
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My understanding, and Stadler can share, is there's a lot of protesting going on at Florida's Disney. Add that on top of the crowds and prices and whatever else drives the average person crazy when visiting the park.
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I haven't seen any protesting (yet) but there's a lot closed, and there are a LOT of people. They're also moving to an app-based scheduling system - you have to tell them when you're going to certain parks, etc. - and the app BLOWS. I mean it's bad. And so you have a lot of people walking aimlessly around with their faces in their phones.
We did get the "Lightning Pass" - well, not really; my stepson qualified for the Disabled Access System or whatever its' called, which is kind of the same thing - and with that you get to schedule certain rides (only one at a time, and you have to go when they tell you to) and that has been a blessing, but other than that, it wasn't that magical. We're doing the other parks - Animal Kingdom, EPCOT, and the studio one - so maybe it'll be different, but it's been very difficult to schedule things.
Having said that we're staying at a Wyndham property, and nothing beats going down to the pool at 9:30 or so, getting a cool drink and relaxing in the night air (bear in mind, CT is supposed to get snow tonight. Yes, snow.)
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Yeah, Stads, you literally have to schedule what day you're going to what park. That blows. I think it was born out of crowd control during Covid, but WTF? I think you actually have to buy the fast passes now. What a fucking rip.
We'd been so many times with our kids, and well, you just can't "schedule" a trip at Disney, especially with little kids. Luckily, there's nothing we NEED to experience, so whatever. But I just feel awful for families with young kids trying to navigate the whole thing for their "one" special trip down. All they have done is make it more and more complicated.
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We did the "Chef Mickey" last night. EX-PENSIVE! Like, holy SHIT expensive. But it was a treat for my stepson and the food was pretty good. The characters come around and even as adults, it's kind of fun. Animal Kingdom today.
Oh, and you know that thread about artists releasing music in six decades? I think I hit "It's A Small World" in SIX decades! My first time was in '74. I KNOW I have the 90's, the 00's, the 10's and now the 20's, but I'm PRETTY SURE I did it in the early 80's when we were still doing fam vacations.
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We went to DW in February. I don't know, I didn't find their new system that egregious. You only need to tell schedule what park you're going to start at. You can still park hop after 1:00 pm. The only real exasperating thing for us, is signing up for lightning passes. You can only do it on the ap, and only one hour prior to opening (unless you are staying at a Disney property). Once you get one, you have to wait two hours to sign up for another one. It works, but some people are going to be left out, there's only so many available times. Pro tip, if some of your group book a time but others aren't quite able to, go talk nicely to guest services. It's still Disney.
By the way, with the construction at Epcot coupled with the all new fireworks display. The world showcase is a mother fucking zoo...at least it was when I was there.
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I'm with Tim. I had zero clue until I googled it. I think I saw Commando once when it came out and not since then.
It's no "Lighten up, Francis!"
I go commando. Is that the same thing? Does that count?
No, but you would get bonus points if you watch Commando while going commando. :biggrin:
I've done my own taxes, well, my whole life. I've never paid anyone to do my taxes. They are either as easy as a piece of cake, or... well, they are still easy, but sometimes you have to fill in more forms. Its a NIGHTMARE though, when you can't e-file. I've only had that once, and I hope every year it never happens again.
I wouldn't go so far as "nightmare," but 20 pages of forms and schedules and "attach this, but don't staple it" and "staple your W-2 but not the check." Mostly a minor annoyance.
So, my turn. I'm on vacation this week, in Florida. We did The Magic Kingdom today. I could fill pages on "exasperating" based on my day.
My wife's father died shortly after I met her, and a few years later, her mother started a relationship with a Disneyphile. We all went to Disneyworld one year but were staying at different Disney resorts. Figuring out the tram schedule was a nightmare because it was never "go from point X to point Y." You always had go from X to A to C to Y. We nicknamed it Stalag Disney.
Oh, and you know that thread about artists releasing music in six decades? I think I hit "It's A Small World" in SIX decades! My first time was in '74. I KNOW I have the 90's, the 00's, the 10's and now the 20's, but I'm PRETTY SURE I did it in the early 80's when we were still doing fam vacations.
LOL...I'm sure I went in the '70s and '80s, but I'm not sure I went to Disneyland in the '90s, and I think the last time we went was the '00s. My condolences on your...ummm...accomplishment.
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So I had 12 vote on a Facebook poll to see if that line, "Let off some steam, Bennet!" was an iconic line. Love were 6/6. :lol Damn draw.
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So I had 12 vote on a Facebook poll to see if that line, "Let off some steam, Bennet!" was an iconic line. Love were 6/6. :lol Damn draw.
Dude has so many classic lines, some are just going to fall to the wayside.
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So I had 12 vote on a Facebook poll to see if that line, "Let off some steam, Bennet!" was an iconic line. Love were 6/6. :lol Damn draw.
Dude has so many classic lines, some are just going to fall to the wayside.
Hell, even from that one movie. Lol
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Still have no idea what movie you’re talking about. Is it on Crave?
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Still have no idea what movie you’re talking about. Is it on Crave?
Yes, all 80's movies are only showing on a Canadian streaming service.
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Still have no idea what movie you’re talking about. Is it on Crave?
Yes, all 80's movies are only showing on a Canadian streaming service.
And I thought Covid was the only reason Chad never leaves his house..
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Still have no idea what movie you’re talking about. Is it on Crave?
Yes, all 80's movies are only showing on a Canadian streaming service.
And I thought Covid was the only reason Chad never leaves his house..
He probably only likes Strange Brew.
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I get that reference! :P
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Not really exasperating but sometimes my wife makes me scratch my head.
Today, we cleaned all of the bed sheets, pillow cases, blankets. My wife grabbed some new pillow cases out of the closet and started putting them on the pillows. When she was done she says to me..
"I don't know which pillows are yours". WUT??
I replied.."Well, you know which ones are yours. Mine are the other ones."
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:lol
Women make me scratch my head every damn day.
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The overuse of "triggers". Everything is a freaking trigger these days and people are starting to use it as an excuse for bad behavior. People really need to have "trigger warning" at the beginning of a Facebook post? It feels like an excuse for people not being able to control their emotions and actions.
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The overuse of "triggers". Everything is a freaking trigger these days and people are starting to use it as an excuse for bad behavior. People really need to have "trigger warning" at the beginning of a Facebook post? It feels like an excuse for people not being able to control their emotions and actions.
I left a Discord group recently because they got really trigger happy. One of the girls made a post about a problem she's having with her boyfriend. They don't have enough in common and couldn't talk about much, and she prefaced it with a trigger warning incase anyone in the thread had any past trauma due to relationship issues.
I was reading earlier today that the guy who tackled Chappelle did so because he's bi and didn't like Dave's jokes, which I still maintain is completely ridiculous. If you actually watch the special that was highly controversial, he had absolutely nothing ill to say about the trans community in anyway and was speaking from a place of deep respect and love for his friend Daphne (the trans person who killed herself shortly after being asked by and opening for Dave at one of his shows).
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The overuse of "triggers". Everything is a freaking trigger these days and people are starting to use it as an excuse for bad behavior. People really need to have "trigger warning" at the beginning of a Facebook post? It feels like an excuse for people not being able to control their emotions and actions.
I left a Discord group recently because they got really trigger happy. One of the girls made a post about a problem she's having with her boyfriend. They don't have enough in common and couldn't talk about much, and she prefaced it with a trigger warning incase anyone in the thread had any past trauma due to relationship issues.
I was reading earlier today that the guy who tackled Chappelle did so because he's bi and didn't like Dave's jokes, which I still maintain is completely ridiculous. If you actually watch the special that was highly controversial, he had absolutely nothing ill to say about the trans community in anyway and was speaking from a place of deep respect and love for his friend Daphne (the trans person who killed herself shortly after being asked by and opening for Dave at one of his shows).
The Chapelle thing was what made me post this, though I've been thinking it for a long time
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Being "triggered" should never absolve people from being responsible for their actions.
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The overuse of "triggers". Everything is a freaking trigger these days and people are starting to use it as an excuse for bad behavior. People really need to have "trigger warning" at the beginning of a Facebook post? It feels like an excuse for people not being able to control their emotions and actions.
I fully agree with this. It's bullshit.
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It's not that different from saying "no offense, but ..."
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The overuse of "triggers". Everything is a freaking trigger these days and people are starting to use it as an excuse for bad behavior. People really need to have "trigger warning" at the beginning of a Facebook post? It feels like an excuse for people not being able to control their emotions and actions.
It doesn't "feel like". It IS. It's a way to pass responsibility to someone else, and force acceptance. It's bad enough that adults - who should know better - do this, but now I have to explain to my 14-year-old that it's okay to identify the inputs and address them, but "trigger" means NOTHING when it comes to being responsible and accountable for your actions/reactions.
I think this notion of "trigger" is actually selfish; it's unreasonable to expect the entire 7.6 billion population have to accommodate my feelings. Who cares if I'm triggered? That's my burden to carry, not the entire world's.
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The overuse of "triggers". Everything is a freaking trigger these days and people are starting to use it as an excuse for bad behavior. People really need to have "trigger warning" at the beginning of a Facebook post? It feels like an excuse for people not being able to control their emotions and actions.
I left a Discord group recently because they got really trigger happy. One of the girls made a post about a problem she's having with her boyfriend. They don't have enough in common and couldn't talk about much, and she prefaced it with a trigger warning incase anyone in the thread had any past trauma due to relationship issues.
I was reading earlier today that the guy who tackled Chappelle did so because he's bi and didn't like Dave's jokes, which I still maintain is completely ridiculous. If you actually watch the special that was highly controversial, he had absolutely nothing ill to say about the trans community in anyway and was speaking from a place of deep respect and love for his friend Daphne (the trans person who killed herself shortly after being asked by and opening for Dave at one of his shows).
Here's a controversial statement: even if Chappelle DID have ill things to say, so what? Why does having an opinion entitle someone else to forego the rules of society as well as the laws of the land we live in? And if we're going to accept that, then why are things like January 6th or #MeToo behavior so bad? You can't have it both ways. If one has been in several bad relationships with women, does that absolve their behavior if they mistreat a woman? What about if I'm beat up or mugged by a criminal who happens to be African American? Wouldn't the resulting racism be acceptable?
This is a big problem for me with much of the identity politics movement; it's so subjectively related to a specific individual, as opposed to individuals in general, that it leads to a lot of arbitrary (one might say, hypocritical) applications to the concepts.
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Just to be clear, I wasn't trying to say the stage rusher would have been justified had Chappelle actually been talking shit.
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Yea, I don't really recall anyone saying the stage rusher was justified (though I'm sure there's SOMEONE with that opinion out there).
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Just to be clear, I wasn't trying to say the stage rusher would have been justified had Chappelle actually been talking shit.
No, but I'm fairly certain that the STAGE RUSHER thought himself justified. I mean, intent and all, but still, it's not a radical assumption.
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Just to be clear, I wasn't trying to say the stage rusher would have been justified had Chappelle actually been talking shit.
No, but I'm fairly certain that the STAGE RUSHER thought himself justified. I mean, intent and all, but still, it's not a radical assumption.
............so? Don't most criminals think they're justified?
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Just to be clear, I wasn't trying to say the stage rusher would have been justified had Chappelle actually been talking shit.
No, but I'm fairly certain that the STAGE RUSHER thought himself justified. I mean, intent and all, but still, it's not a radical assumption.
............so? Don't most criminals think they're justified?
Sure, but the underlying concept is the same. Hell, there's an argument that most of the shootings we're seeing fall under this category; it's the delusion that any reaction is okay if the initial action is "egregious" enough. Will Smith/Chris Rock. There were people that felt that Will Smith was within his bounds; or at least didn't concur that he was OUT of bounds.
I'm not really drawing lines here, just pointing out that certain "common sense" reactions might do with a little self-reflection and a broader look beyond the moment at hand.
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So I'm on vacation right now, and there's been a number of things that I've gone off on. My family has pretty much told me that I'm the one being a dick.
I find this exasperating. :lol
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People who fall for NFTs. People who try to shill them too.
Steve Lukather is the latest victim of this modern scam and he's pushing people to buy ridiculous cartoons of himself and has a whole NFT site now. Yuck. When I expressed my dismay at this turn of events whoever manages his page (Luke himself?) my comment was promptly deleted.
I'm tired of explaining to people why NFTs ONLY exist to line the pockets of people who want to take advantage of gullible people and or fans.
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Forum went down? Was it just me? ???
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Forum went down? Was it just me? ???
Was down for me as well, longer than usual I'm guessing.
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Was Stadler's mailbox full again? The forum was down for me for like the last hour
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Came in here to mention that as well. I mean, c'mon, I'm trying to work and the forum takes a dump? I actually have to do some work when this happens.
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Came in here to mention that as well. I mean, c'mon, I'm trying to work and the forum takes a dump? I actually have to do some work when this happens.
It got me to leave my desk and go do some work on the other side of the building I'm in :lol
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Was Stadler's mailbox full again? The forum was down for me for like the last hour
I cleared out like 100 messages. We're back and running! :) :) :)
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:lol
Stads, I bet you didn't know you wielded so much power. Lol
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So I'm on vacation right now, and there's been a number of things that I've gone off on. My family has pretty much told me that I'm the one being a dick.
I find this exasperating. :lol
They only have themselves to blame. They knew what they were getting into.
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So I'm on vacation right now, and there's been a number of things that I've gone off on. My family has pretty much told me that I'm the one being a dick.
I find this exasperating. :lol
They only have themselves to blame. They knew what they were getting into.
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:lol
Stads, I bet you didn't know you wielded so much power. Lol
I feel like Thanos. I'm wearing a glove. :)
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This one falls between the 'exasperating' and 'piss me off'. People who assign feelings to things that aren't feelings. One thing I learned in the brief time I was in therapy a number of years back was if you start a sentence with "I feel", follow it with a feeling. It burns me to my core when I hear/see sentences "I feel like you're <insert anything>" or "I feel as though <insert pretty much anything>" or "I feel that ... ". Spoiler alert people, 99% of the times, these aren't feelings; these are just convenient ways to express your thoughts, beliefs, opinions, judgments, perceptions etc ....
I feel that I've said this before
I feel like you're not listening to me.
I feel like I’ve given it a lot of chances
I feel as though I'm doing all the work here
A lot of times, this are innocent misuses (I feel like having a burger for lunch), but when they're a passive aggressive way of expressing non-feelings, it grates the fuck out of me.
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Hmm. I'm not sure I agree that it's a misuse at all. If the person actually feels that way then they feel that way and there's nothing wrong with saying it that way. Basically I would argue that telling them that what they're feeling isn't actually a feeling is pretty dismissive of... how they're feeling. Just my perception.
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This one falls between the 'exasperating' and 'piss me off'. People who assign feelings to things that aren't feelings. One thing I learned in the brief time I was in therapy a number of years back was if you start a sentence with "I feel", follow it with a feeling. It burns me to my core when I hear/see sentences "I feel like you're <insert anything>" or "I feel as though <insert pretty much anything>" or "I feel that ... ". Spoiler alert people, 99% of the times, these aren't feelings; these are just convenient ways to express your thoughts, beliefs, opinions, judgments, perceptions etc ....
I feel that I've said this before
I feel like you're not listening to me.
I feel like I’ve given it a lot of chances
I feel as though I'm doing all the work here
A lot of times, this are innocent misuses (I feel like having a burger for lunch), but when they're a passive aggressive way of expressing non-feelings, it grates the fuck out of me.
I feel you.
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This one falls between the 'exasperating' and 'piss me off'. People who assign feelings to things that aren't feelings. One thing I learned in the brief time I was in therapy a number of years back was if you start a sentence with "I feel", follow it with a feeling. It burns me to my core when I hear/see sentences "I feel like you're <insert anything>" or "I feel as though <insert pretty much anything>" or "I feel that ... ". Spoiler alert people, 99% of the times, these aren't feelings; these are just convenient ways to express your thoughts, beliefs, opinions, judgments, perceptions etc ....
I feel that I've said this before
I feel like you're not listening to me.
I feel like I’ve given it a lot of chances
I feel as though I'm doing all the work here
A lot of times, this are innocent misuses (I feel like having a burger for lunch), but when they're a passive aggressive way of expressing non-feelings, it grates the fuck out of me.
I feel you.
Promise? You've got 8 weeks to prepare yourself.
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Hmmm....I'll think about this one a bit. I think I'd rather have someone check out something with me by saying, "I feel like you are <fill in the blank>" than assuming my state of mind. I also am glad when people use or try to use feeling statements because so many people are so detached from their own feelings. Yes, it is a bit of a shortcut way around, but that alone is a big step for a lot of people. Personally, I use, "It sounds like you are saying <fill in the blank>" as a reflective statement and an opportunity for the other person to correct my perception or to elaborate by opening the door and cuing them that I'm listening.
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So @Chad…. A lot of times when my wife and I are discussing what to get for dinner, she might ask, “What do you feel like?” which may get a response along the lines of “I feel like having pizza”.
I had a hard time understanding your gripe but is that the kind of thing that bugs you?
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No, not that. That’s no biggie. I’ll give an example. Recently, another poster here commented to me “I feel like you’d be happier if ….” Well, that’s not a feeling. That just a way of backhanding an opinion or belief. Or when “I feel like you’re saying …”. That’s not a feeling. It’s an opinion or perception.
@ Harmony, I feel like you get it (said specifically as an example that bugs me). It seems to me like you get it. I tend to use phrase like “it seems” or “it appears” or “I think/believe” rather than the oft used “I feel”. The next word after “I feel” should (almost always) be an actual feeling.
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I feel=It seems to me...no?
I mean, does the word "feel" or the phrase "I feel" need to be taken so literal? Words and phrases can have another meaning or usage.
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I think people use the word 'feel' in that situation to try and possibly empathise with the person more. I think people correlate the word 'feel' with empathy so they are relating more and engaging them with what they are saying, but Chad's right, the context technically is not a feeling.
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For me, it's situations such as "I feel like you're not listening to me". um, what? Me not listening is not a feeling of someone else. I get bothered when people try to co-opt others' words or behaviours as their feelings, rather than actually recognizing or dealing with their own feelings. For instance, in the aforementioned statement "I feel frustrated because I don't believe you're listening to me" is more apt. I'd like for people simply to recognize and own their own feelings rather than dodging them, and calling out something else as their feeling, or parking their emotions on the actions/behaviours of someone else.
Maybe it's just a me thing.
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Maybe it's just a me thing.
I feel like it is. ;D
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Maybe it's just a me thing.
I feel like it is. ;D
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I feel like what he means is that he doesn't like when people use 'feel' in place of 'think'. 'I feel like you meant this' instead of 'I think you meant this'. 'I feel like TAC absolutely loves Winger' instead of 'I think TAC absolutely loves Winger'.
That's what I feel.
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I feel like what he means is that he doesn't like when people use 'feel' in place of 'think'. 'I feel like you meant this' instead of 'I think you meant this'. 'I feel like TAC absolutely loves Winger' instead of 'I think TAC absolutely loves Winger'.
That's what I feel.
I feel you man.
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I feel=It seems to me...no?
I mean, does the word "feel" or the phrase "I feel" need to be taken so literal? Words and phrases can have another meaning or usage.
Chad's particular example doesn't really bug me that much, but I see where he's coming from and I tend to agree. There's a LOT of co-opting of language these days, and while it's subtle, and most people don't even notice it, it's got an effect. The implications are there and IMO it's all leading to a sort of false narrative. Opinions and facts are NOT the same thing, no matter how hard we try to justify them as the same.
We can't control our feelings, to be sure, but we CAN recognize them, process them, and filter them for the real world. Not every feeling needs airing to the populace at large. I think subtle linguistic turns like this only serve to give heft and (false) validity to things that never should have that heft to begin with. And you might think "so what?", but it has impact, it has ramifications. Remember that there are potentially 7.6 BILLION different opinions on any one topic; the more that they are considered fact, the more investment we have in them and the more the damage when they aren't accepted as such. This terminology also serves as a defense mechanism; it's harder to argue with an opinion, even when that opinion is (falsely) stated as a fact. There are millions of people - we have one or two people here - that literally cannot accept that others disagree with them; their opinions are so integral to their state of mind that they can't fathom that someone might, with good intentions and in good faith, disagree with them. They counter with other words intended to normalize this reliance on opinion, like "gaslighting". "Disagreement" is not "gaslighting". This rejection from the in-group only serves to bolster insecurity and marginalization, and if you read anything I write in the P/R threads, you know where I think that leads. We've got about three active threads over there that are DEEPLY rooted, IMO, in our national insecurity.
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The methods in which we have to pay to park these days. I went to a beach yesterday that was $65 for the day (I thought the guy was joking at first). The only form of payment that was excepted was through a parking app. No receipt or anything is given. I fucked up my license plate and entered AP208200 instead of AP20820, so of course the security car's cameras flagged it and I was issued a $150 ticket. I go to the booth at the end of the day, show them the confirmation in the app with my parking pass still active, but there was nothing they could do as the ticket was already printed. So now I have to deal with that shit and play the telephone game while I try to sort it out. I hate it.
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But did you leave a cone in your spot for the next visit to the beach?
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The methods in which we have to pay to park these days. I went to a beach yesterday that was $65 for the day (I thought the guy was joking at first). The only form of payment that was excepted was through a parking app. No receipt or anything is given. I fucked up my license plate and entered AP208200 instead of AP20820, so of course the security car's cameras flagged it and I was issued a $150 ticket. I go to the booth at the end of the day, show them the confirmation in the app with my parking pass still active, but there was nothing they could do as the ticket was already printed. So now I have to deal with that shit and play the telephone game while I try to sort it out. I hate it.
This is the bane of technology and the people who design these kind of systems. I'm sure they do it on purpose with the goal of you just giving up and paying for your mistake. No margin for any error is accomodated.
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So I mentioned being aggravated while on vacation.
Can I tell you what pisses me off? It's the expectation of a tip.
So we spent a night in San Antonio on the Riverwalk. When we are away, we like the Hampton Inns. But this hotel apparently didn't a lot where I could park our car, but that we'd have to valet it for $40. $40??
Whatever..So it costs me $40 for them to put my car somewhere. It's not even like they deducted it from our bill for lodging.
So the guy takes the car, and my wife asks me if I gave him "anything". Hell NO! The guy is parking my car at a lot that I have no access to. It's his job.
When we leave, my wife starts fiddling for some cash, and I was like, what are you doing? She says she wants to get something ready for a tip. I was like Fuck that. We already spent $40! The dude can go to the front desk and they can give him his cut of the $40.
Another night, we were at a restaurant..nothing fancy by any stretch, and at the bottom of the menu is states: For your convenience, a 20% gratuity will be added for parties of 8 or more.
WUT? How the hell is that convenient for me? So if I had 6 kids instead of 2, my bill would be 20% higher?
FUCK THAT!
What if the service sucked? What if the meal wasn't that great? What if the restroom smelled like a shithouse? But because I have 6 kids, my bill will be 20% higher. That's bullshit!
I have another one. We get pizza at the same place every Friday night. Usually it's 2 pizzas and it's about $30. Well, it's probably the software, but when they run my card, there's a spot to add a tip. I just put a line though it and circle the total. Why would I leave a tip? Because the place cooked my pizza? WTF is the $30 for then?
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No, that's America / capitalism (and Canada for the most part too).
Vis-a-vis restaurant tipping, food prices are artificially lower because service workers don't have to be paid a decent wage - their pay is tips. There's all sorts of things wrong with the tipping culture of US/Canada - like if you ordered a $40 bottle of (over-priced) wine, the staff didn't have to work any harder, but automatically get higher pay when the standard is 15%-20% of the bill.
I don't have an issue with enforced tipping - bigger parties are always going to be more effort, and usually will be a bigger pain in the ass.
You're a grumpy fart lately, eh? :lol
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No, that's America / capitalism (and Canada for the most part too).
Vis-a-vis restaurant tipping, food prices are artificially lower because service workers don't have to be paid a decent wage - their pay is tips. There's all sorts of things wrong with the tipping culture of US/Canada - like if you ordered a $40 bottle of (over-priced) wine, the staff didn't have to work any harder, but automatically get higher pay when the standard is 15%-20% of the bill.
I don't have an issue with enforced tipping - bigger parties are always going to be more effort, and usually will be a bigger pain in the ass.
You're a grumpy fart lately, eh? :lol
I am! :lol
But I've always been this way. I caused a huge stir in my college newspaper about tipping once!
It's such a sham. Pay your damn staff, charge me whatever you think you need to charge me. Let me decide if it's worth it.
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In Australia, tipping isn't a thing, whatsoever. If it were, I wouldn't tip anyone and wouldn't expect to be tipped. People doing their job getting paid their wage, why would I give them extra for what their already getting paid to do?
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"urge to smack Tim...rising*
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"urge to smack Tim...rising*
Because he doesn't agree with tipping?
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That's how Kev feels in any thread with me. :lol
I'm not against tipping per se. I've raved about some great service and left some good tips. But I am absolutely against expected tips. Going over and above is one thing, but providing me with simply the minimum job you were hired to do should not have to result in me paying a premium.
Going to retrieve my car is your job. You work for the hotel, not for me. They can pay you whatever they deem fit.
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That's how Kev feels in any thread with me. :lol
I'm not against tipping per se. I've raved about some great service and left some good tips. But I am absolutely against expected tips. Going over and above is one thing, but providing me with simply the minimum job you were hired to do should not have to result in me paying a premium.
Going to retrieve my car is your job. You work for the hotel, not for me. They can pay you whatever they deem fit.
Nah, I'm with you 100%. I mean, we've been out to a nice dinner and it's been exceptional and if I pay cash, I'll round up a few bucks as a tip, but yeah, we don't have the expected tip thing over here. If people expected tips, that would give me more of a reason NOT to tip them.
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Tim's story reminded me of a thing that always rears its ugly head at the airport.
We park our car in the off-site lot, get on the shuttle bus, the driver may load up one of our bags if our hands are full, he drives 5 minutes to the airport, parks, maybe unloads a bag if our hands are full, and my wife insists we tip him.
Regarding the "Parties of 8 or more..." is it that much more work than 2 parties of 4? The cooks are gonna have to make more food but I don't believe there is an undue expectation it happen just as quickly as if it were a couple. The wait staff will have to make an extra trip or two with the food and clearing plates. But nothing worth a 20% add-on.
And if I can add to the list... having to register on a website to do just about anything. The family wanted to take a train ride, just a local 30 minute trip to a historical train museum. Can I get online and just buy tickets? Nope. Can I call their office and buy tickets? Nope. I gotta register for an account first. I spoke to the office gal and she understood the frustration, said her boss set it up this way so they could store every client's information to sell it for money to make checking out easier for future purchases. And if there is an issue with the trip, they have a way of getting in touch with the clients. Fine, take my email or phone number when I buy tickets. Don't make me set up an account for something I am never, ever going to use again.
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And if I can add to the list... having to register on a website to do just about anything. The family wanted to take a train ride, just a local 30 minute trip to a historical train museum. Can I get online and just buy tickets? Nope. Can I call their office and buy tickets? Nope. I gotta register for an account first. I spoke to the office gal and she understood the frustration, said her boss set it up this way so they could store every client's information to sell it for money to make checking out easier for future purchases. And if there is an issue with the trip, they have a way of getting in touch with the clients. Fine, take my email or phone number when I buy tickets. Don't make me set up an account for something I am never, ever going to use again.
I agree with this. Nothing is easy.
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I absolutely LAOTHE tipping culture. I hate every single facet of it. First off, for waitstaff, it's a shit game. If my party of four orders waters and four burgers, their tip is like half of what it would be if we got sodas and steak. The amount of work involved was exactly the same, yet the tip amount varies. It sucks for them. Secondly, it's fucking everywhere. When I go to the pizza place down the street and get two slices of pepperoni to-go, there's a tip line on my receipt. For what? The sole purpose of your establishment is to get pizza into my hands. The fact that I got it to-go and didn't require any waitstaff justifies a tip? What? I saved the place money and required LESS work from the employees. You literally did the only thing your business was designed to do. Tip at subway, why? The person's sole job at the counter is to put meats and cheeses on bread and hand it to me. They are getting paid to do that, and their wages are baked into my tab. Why should I give more money? And the line that's drawn is weird. We're expected to tip the pizza staff for handing me my pizza slices, but not the people at the deli counter in the grocery store for handing me my ham slices. And the places with bathrooms with people in them... c'mon.
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I agree that the tipping culture is out of control with it now happening at places like Subway and whatnot, but when it comes to servers and bartenders, I think it is important to remember that their hourly rate is way below the minimum wage because they are tipped employees. For most of my tenure as a bartender, my weekly check was basically nothing because everything I made was from tips.
Now, there is a BBQ place I go to here in STL and I tip them like $5 every time, but that is because I go there enough to where most recognize me and they will usually ring me for a kid's meal (so basically my bill which should have been around $15 is like $7), so even with tipping them, I am still saving money vs if they rang me up normal and I tipped them nothing. Plus, if you are a regular anywhere, tips ensure little things like that. If you are a good tipper and the bar is packed, you are likely to be gotten too quickly. We had a guy way back who would come in once a week, drink one beer, and leave. Never tipped a cent. Not a big deal, because enough others would tip, but if he came in when the bar was busy, he was gonna wait before we got to him, even if that meant getting to others first who got to the bar after him. Just the way it works.
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I go to Subway every Tuesday and never even see an option to tip. Maybe it’s different for different locations?
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I go to Subway every Tuesday and never even see an option to tip. Maybe it’s different for different locations?
I've never seen it on the receipt, but the two I go to in Hartford have a big bowl at the register for them.
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I agree that the tipping culture is out of control with it now happening at places like Subway and whatnot, but when it comes to servers and bartenders, I think it is important to remember that their hourly rate is way below the minimum wage because they are tipped employees. For most of my tenure as a bartender, my weekly check was basically nothing because everything I made was from tips.
I keep that in mind every time I go out to a place that requires sitting down or to a bar and tip accordingly.
Side bar... What do you guys tip per drink? I've always been a $1 per drink kind of person, and my GF says it's supposed to be $2 per drink. Thoughts?
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I absolutely LAOTHE tipping culture. I hate every single facet of it. First off, for waitstaff, it's a shit game. If my party of four orders waters and four burgers, their tip is like half of what it would be if we got sodas and steak. The amount of work involved was exactly the same, yet the tip amount varies. It sucks for them. Secondly, it's fucking everywhere. When I go to the pizza place down the street and get two slices of pepperoni to-go, there's a tip line on my receipt. For what? The sole purpose of your establishment is to get pizza into my hands. The fact that I got it to-go and didn't require any waitstaff justifies a tip? What? I saved the place money and required LESS work from the employees. You literally did the only thing your business was designed to do. Tip at subway, why? The person's sole job at the counter is to put meats and cheeses on bread and hand it to me. They are getting paid to do that, and their wages are baked into my tab. Why should I give more money? And the line that's drawn is weird. We're expected to tip the pizza staff for handing me my pizza slices, but not the people at the deli counter in the grocery store for handing me my ham slices. And the places with bathrooms with people in them... c'mon.
My brother works on POS support for a few major fast food chains. He told me once the credit card pin pads started asking if you want to tip most fast food places saw tipping go up 600%. I personally agree with you, why am I being asked to tip you at Subway?
I go to Subway every Tuesday and never even see an option to tip. Maybe it’s different for different locations?
Some Subway's (like the ones around me) ask for a tip when you insert your credit card.
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We are over our threshold at work which means the amount of trailers we have to sort through (40). I had to send my best supervisor over to Lewiston, Me to work at another site who is short handed after them firing 2 employees for fighting and 1 walked out. We are also loading sorted pallets for reuse since that DC cannot support the good pallets for reuse. So I'm short my best supervisor, and my boss is all over me to hit 40 unloads a day plus send good wood loads to Lewiston. We hit 37 unloads with making 9 good wood loads. That is a fantastic day with what we have for staffing.
Back off boss man. We are working real efficient and my guys are helping a site that cant get it's act together and is affecting us now.
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No, that's America / capitalism (and Canada for the most part too).
Vis-a-vis restaurant tipping, food prices are artificially lower because service workers don't have to be paid a decent wage - their pay is tips. There's all sorts of things wrong with the tipping culture of US/Canada - like if you ordered a $40 bottle of (over-priced) wine, the staff didn't have to work any harder, but automatically get higher pay when the standard is 15%-20% of the bill.
I don't have an issue with enforced tipping - bigger parties are always going to be more effort, and usually will be a bigger pain in the ass.
You're a grumpy fart lately, eh? :lol
You kill me. :) :) :) :) Now THAT'S exasperating. :)
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I absolutely LAOTHE tipping culture. I hate every single facet of it. First off, for waitstaff, it's a shit game. If my party of four orders waters and four burgers, their tip is like half of what it would be if we got sodas and steak. The amount of work involved was exactly the same, yet the tip amount varies. It sucks for them. Secondly, it's fucking everywhere. When I go to the pizza place down the street and get two slices of pepperoni to-go, there's a tip line on my receipt. For what? The sole purpose of your establishment is to get pizza into my hands. The fact that I got it to-go and didn't require any waitstaff justifies a tip? What? I saved the place money and required LESS work from the employees. You literally did the only thing your business was designed to do. Tip at subway, why? The person's sole job at the counter is to put meats and cheeses on bread and hand it to me. They are getting paid to do that, and their wages are baked into my tab. Why should I give more money? And the line that's drawn is weird. We're expected to tip the pizza staff for handing me my pizza slices, but not the people at the deli counter in the grocery store for handing me my ham slices. And the places with bathrooms with people in them... c'mon.
Now, THAT is something I can get behind. I do NOT want someone standing there waiting to help me take a crap. It's bad enough I can't shit in my own toilet at home, but knowing the guy is standing there, AND waiting for me to finish, nah uh. I'm out. I'll hold it best I can.
I generally do tip, and tip generously, though I understand the gripes. I do think parties of 8 are more work than parties of 2 or 4 (there is the coordination of meals so that one person isn't on dessert while another is still working on their salad, that kind of thing). I'm often confused on the tipping for take out as well, and I almost NEVER tip at what I'd call "fast food" places (Subway), and almost NEVER put stuff in "tip jars" beyond the coinage (I don't carry coins with me, ever). Dunkin Donuts; you're pouring coffee and dropping a donut into a bag. There's only so many ways to do that (though now that I'm typing this, if you make sure the frosting doesn't stick to the other donuts, I suppose you should be recognized. :) ).
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I hate tipping as well, but I generally tip fairly well because know the people are usually getting paid crap wages. Though I refuse to tip someone more than a small token amount (or at all) for basic tasks like grabbing a muffin out of the case, scooping an ice cream, or pouring a beer. I'm sorry, but why do they deserve $1-2 for 10 seconds of work? I'd gladly do those thing myself if they'd let me.
On the parties of 8 thing, I think you can refuse to tip that much. I don't think they can legally force you to tip. Now, I think you're kind of an ass if you don't tip 20% on a large group due to the complexity and amount of work the server(s) put in though.
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Take out tip requests is professional glad handing. I don't know that I've ever tipped when taking out - and definitely not when I've ordered online.
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So I mentioned being aggravated while on vacation.
Can I tell you what pisses me off? It's the expectation of a tip.
So we spent a night in San Antonio on the Riverwalk. When we are away, we like the Hampton Inns. But this hotel apparently didn't a lot where I could park our car, but that we'd have to valet it for $40. $40??
Whatever..So it costs me $40 for them to put my car somewhere. It's not even like they deducted it from our bill for lodging.
So the guy takes the car, and my wife asks me if I gave him "anything". Hell NO! The guy is parking my car at a lot that I have no access to. It's his job.
When we leave, my wife starts fiddling for some cash, and I was like, what are you doing? She says she wants to get something ready for a tip. I was like Fuck that. We already spent $40! The dude can go to the front desk and they can give him his cut of the $40.
Valet drivers, I'll tip them $5 or so, even if there is a separate valet charge. They're actually doing something, even if it's just moving a car from one spot to another.
I have another one. We get pizza at the same place every Friday night. Usually it's 2 pizzas and it's about $30. Well, it's probably the software, but when they run my card, there's a spot to add a tip. I just put a line though it and circle the total. Why would I leave a tip? Because the place cooked my pizza? WTF is the $30 for then?
I do this as well for takeout/pickup of food. The cook makes the food and puts it into the box/take-out container. The server puts the container into a bag, that's all. I write in $0.00 for tip and write in the total, just so an employee can't write in their own tip after I leave. It's not like the server is making a few trips to a table.
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My problem with tipping a valet (which I don't use because I don't want to pay for or tip) is that you're already overpaying for the exact same service you can perform yourself. If I can pay $20 to self park or $40 to valet park, why the hell isn't the valet getting like $15+ of that extra $20? It doesn't cost the venue much at all to set up a little stand for the valet to stand at. The reason the valet is underpayed and needs a tip to survive is because his employer is greedy.
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Side bar... What do you guys tip per drink? I've always been a $1 per drink kind of person, and my GF says it's supposed to be $2 per drink. Thoughts?
dollar per drink, I realized last night I got a double and tipped 2 bucks and I thought that was funny, but I won't do that again. Drinks when out is already really expensive. I guess if I got some really interesting crafted drink or if I bought so many and the service was well, I'd tip more but that's not very common.
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I tip heavy across the board, but that's mostly a product of being in the service industry for 30+ years.
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Side bar... What do you guys tip per drink? I've always been a $1 per drink kind of person, and my GF says it's supposed to be $2 per drink. Thoughts?
dollar per drink, I realized last night I got a double and tipped 2 bucks and I thought that was funny, but I won't do that again. Drinks when out is already really expensive. I guess if I got some really interesting crafted drink or if I bought so many and the service was well, I'd tip more but that's not very common.
I try where I can to run a tab, so that I can manage the tip. I do tip bartenders, though, because there's more to bartending than just pouring drinks. I'm a talker, so if you're a dick/t*** behind the bar, you're getting less from me than if you're pleasant and at least act like you're interested and want to be there. I've also tended bar and if they're really busy and handling matters, I'll sometimes give a little for that too. Bartending is a science, a skill. VERY good bartending is an art. It's like the difference between a cook and a chef.
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I generally tip around 20%. So I don't think I'm a light tipper, but when it comes to drinks... If you crack open a whiteclaw and charge me 10 bucks, a dollar is all you are due and I think that's already quite a bit a money for a single drink. I would never not tip a bartender though, but I do get the sense that at a lot of concert venues, if you tip the dollar per drink, they really appreciate it. Sometimes sitting there at a bar for awhile and if the service is good, you'll want to tip more. Last weekend we got a shot on the house at a speakeasy I went to with my gf, I tipped a bit extra because of that.
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I generally tip around 20%. So I don't think I'm a light tipper, but when it comes to drinks... If you crack open a whiteclaw and charge me 10 bucks, a dollar is all you are due and I think that's already quite a bit a money for a single drink. I would never not tip a bartender though, but I do get the sense that at a lot of concert venues, if you tip the dollar per drink, they really appreciate it. Sometimes sitting there at a bar for awhile and if the service is good, you'll want to tip more. Last weekend we got a shot on the house at a speakeasy I went to with my gf, I tipped a bit extra because of that.
I'll be honest, I was mainly talking about the bolded. I'm with you; getting a can at a cart at a concert doesn't merit being moneybag$.
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I'm a talker
No, really? Never would've figured that.
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I'm a talker
No, really? Never would've figured that.
Can't accuse me of not being self-aware! :) :)
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I'm a talker
No, really? Never would've figured that.
Can't accuse me of not being self-aware! :) :)
I've met the real life Stadler. Get a drink in him. Less wordy. :lol
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I'm a talker
No, really? Never would've figured that.
Can't accuse me of not being self-aware! :) :)
I've met the real life Stadler. Get a drink in him. Less wordy. :lol
Does that apply to PR posting as well? :biggrin:
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Also privileged to have met the real life Stadler, and not ONCE did he use the word deplorable. I was waiting for it too!
Sadly I haven't seen 500 live bands, so I didn't have a ton to contribute to the convo at the time.
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Honestly, I don't like talking politics in real life much. I used to, but it's lost it's luster. I'd rather, as it's being made abundantly clear, drink and talk about music.
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Honestly, I don't like talking politics in real life much. I used to, but it's lost it's luster. I'd rather, as it's being made abundantly clear, drink and talk about music.
And we had a fun night! I love that venue.
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Honestly, I don't like talking politics in real life much. I used to, but it's lost it's luster. I'd rather, as it's being made abundantly clear, drink and talk about music.
And we had a fun night! I love that venue.
That was a GREAT time, all around. I'd do it again tomorrow if I could.
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Side bar... What do you guys tip per drink? I've always been a $1 per drink kind of person, and my GF says it's supposed to be $2 per drink. Thoughts?
If you do a $1 a drink, that is a good way to do it. I always think an extra buck is good if you give the bartender something pain in the ass to make like a Mojito or Old Fashioned, especially during volume, but that's me. I also had no problem back in the day if someone came up and ordered 3 bottled beers and tipped me a buck total, as I was literally opening them up and handing to him. That will usually get balanced out by the good tips on those ordering frozen drinks or the dreaded Mojito (I hated making that stupid ass drink).
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Side bar... What do you guys tip per drink? I've always been a $1 per drink kind of person, and my GF says it's supposed to be $2 per drink. Thoughts?
If I'm getting one drink, I don't usually tip. It's likely a beer that the guy is either taking a bottle cap off, or pulling a lever.
If I'm getting two, I'll likely Tip $1 for the first, and not for the last. Sorry. I'm not paying a premium charge for you to hand me a beer.
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Side bar... What do you guys tip per drink? I've always been a $1 per drink kind of person, and my GF says it's supposed to be $2 per drink. Thoughts?
If I'm getting one drink, I don't usually tip. It's likely a beer that the guy is either taking a bottle cap off, or pulling a lever.
If I'm getting two, I'll likely Tip $1 for the first, and not for the last. Sorry. I'm not paying a premium charge for you to hand me a beer.
So basically, if you are getting two drinks, you will tip on the first to trick the bartender into thinking you are a good tipper and then you'll jack him the second time, but if you are getting just one drink, you don't tip it all because you don't have to worry about him getting you another drink, right?
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Side bar... What do you guys tip per drink? I've always been a $1 per drink kind of person, and my GF says it's supposed to be $2 per drink. Thoughts?
If I'm getting one drink, I don't usually tip. It's likely a beer that the guy is either taking a bottle cap off, or pulling a lever.
If I'm getting two, I'll likely Tip $1 for the first, and not for the last. Sorry. I'm not paying a premium charge for you to hand me a beer.
So basically, if you are getting two drinks, you will tip on the first to trick the bartender into thinking you are a good tipper and then you'll jack him the second time, but if you are getting just one drink, you don't tip it all because you don't have to worry about him getting you another drink, right?
Yes! Like I said, why do I have to pay anything extra for a guy to pop a cap?
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Usually a buck per drink.
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Usually a buck per drink.
Yep. We had a happy hours years ago after work, and one guy (who never drinks or really even goes much, he is socially awkward) just got a water, and several co-workers gave him crap for not at least tipping the server a buck on his water. He literally said, "But water is free. If it had been a soda, I would have." And of course my thought was that it takes the same effort to put ice in a glass and fill it up with water as it would to fill it up with 7Up instead. Whatever. I just accept that some people aren't good tippers and will never get it.
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So... my wife told me I was being grumpy today because I was railing against...SURVEYS!
So I was up all night last night. The pollen was killing me. I made it through work, and after taking a shower when I got home, I laid down on the couch. I was asleep for about two hours when the phone rang. The caller ID on the TV said it was from Mass Eye & Ear. (I bring my wife to Mass Eye & Ear in Boston every few months for her eyes. We went up last week.)
Now usually if it's a spam call, I can dismiss it and roll over. But coming from Mass E&E, I immediately perked up. Expecting that they're trying to get a hold of my wife for some reason, I answer the phone, and it's a fucking recording about taking a survey about last week's visit.
Are you fucking kidding me??
Is it possible to go to a store, or buy something from Amazon, and not be hounded for a review or a survey?
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Yes.
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Surveys are getting out of hand. Now that my own employer (large hospital/medical system) has my cell phone number in my patient record, I get texted left and right with surveys. Usually within minutes of walking out of an office. If I don't answer, they continue to hound me. Tough to complain as they pay my salary, but it does drive me nuts. They will call my cell and the house as well. Not just them either, a bunch of places are doing the survey crap.
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Fuck surveys. If I want to give good feedback, I will do it off my own back. If I want to tell you you're doing shit, I'll fucking do that myself too.
Don't be shit as a business and your customers will be happy and you won't need surveys.
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I get that a lot via text. "Tell us how we did!"
I told you when I was there. And I'm coming back. That's all you need. (Though it does occur to me to respond to the survey: "The service was great, the people were great, but all the annoying surveys after ruin the experience!")
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I get that a lot via text. "Tell us how we did!"
I told you when I was there. And I'm coming back. That's all you need. (Though it does occur to me to respond to the survey: "The service was great, the people were great, but all the annoying surveys after ruin the experience!")
Perfect! I’m so using that.
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I guess I'm lucky. I got a couple survey emails (and maybe a text) when I bought my car, but I've never gotten a robo-call asking me to take a survey. The only surveys I do are for my grocery store, which connects to one of the major gas chains, and which yesterday got me a 70 cent per gallon discount. :biggrin:
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I get that a lot via text. "Tell us how we did!"
I told you when I was there. And I'm coming back. That's all you need. (Though it does occur to me to respond to the survey: "The service was great, the people were great, but all the annoying surveys after ruin the experience!")
Quality post this.
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There was another thing that bugged me while we were at the doctor's in Boston last week. There was a sign on the wall to please refrain from using a cell phone. WUT?
I pointed it out to my wife and was like WTF? So I could talk to her in the waiting room, but if she were at home, I wouldn't be able to talk to her? That makes no sense.
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So awhile back we got a flyer in our mailbox (isn't that illegal?) to join Nextdoor which is an app where you can have convos with your neighbors about shit going on in your neighborhood. I checked it out. What a fucking shit show. :lol
I will file this under 'things I wish I didn't know about my neighbors' and call it a day.
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There was another thing that bugged me while we were at the doctor's in Boston last week. There was a sign on the wall to please refrain from using a cell phone. WUT?
I pointed it out to my wife and was like WTF? So I could talk to her in the waiting room, but if she were at home, I wouldn't be able to talk to her? That makes no sense.
Those signs exist in virtually every medical facility. The theory is that the cellular signal will interfere with certain medical equipment. I have no idea if it's real, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's BS (much like when they used to say that having your cell phone on in a plane would interfere with the plane's operation).
So awhile back we got a flyer in our mailbox (isn't that illegal?) to join Nextdoor which is an app where you can have convos with your neighbors about shit going on in your neighborhood. I checked it out. What a fucking shit show. :lol
I will file this under 'things I wish I didn't know about my neighbors' and call it a day.
I'm a member of Facebook groups for the unincorporated community in which I live and the two small neighboring cities. There's a lot of the same crap but also a fair amount of worthwhile stuff. I remember once posting something and someone responded with, "You should also post this on Nextdoor." My thought was something along the lines of, "I have no idea what that is, but I'm not joining anymore online community groups" (it was the first time I'd ever heard of it).
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I used to be on Nextdoor, but deleted my account. I HATED that it matched up my name and address on a map, which was visible to the overall group. I don't need someone in town easily seeing which house is mine, even though they could just google my name.
Facebook neighborhood groups are exactly the same. I stopped contributing to most of them, since it's either neighbors tearing each other apart, or deciding that they're a know it all on a certain subject, so if I offer some input, it just gets shot down by someone who must know more than me. I read them to stay abreast of things but there's no point in arguing with people who I'll end up running into in town or my kid's teachers. I do tend to stick up for the teachers and local park district when people are constantly attacking them though.
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So awhile back we got a flyer in our mailbox (isn't that illegal?) to join Nextdoor which is an app where you can have convos with your neighbors about shit going on in your neighborhood. I checked it out. What a fucking shit show. :lol
I will file this under 'things I wish I didn't know about my neighbors' and call it a day.
I've gotten multiple flyers for this over the years. A big nope for me. I like my privacy in my home and I follow local news on social media, don't need the neighborhood chatter. Maybe if I had kids it would be more useful. I do often wonder if my neighbors go on this and talk about me though. That weird guy on the block who never has lights on or something.
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I have literally never heard of this. Never seen a flyer on it.
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I have literally never heard of this. Never seen a flyer on it.
No shit.
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I have literally never heard of this. Never seen a flyer on it.
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Kids on TV. Okay, we're worried about guns in the hands of 20-year-olds, well, we should be worried about kids under the age of 12 on TV. My wife is watching "Master Chef Junior", and I'm watching - against my will; married guys, amirite? - some eight-year-old slicing a salmon that is bigger than him and he's already got all the reality TV lingo down; "if I don't step up my game, I'm not going to get the immunity and I'll find myself in an elimination challenge again!" Are you fucking kidding me? I love Gordon Ramsey, and I watch Master Chef Regular (whatever it's called) but this is, IMO, one of those things that sure, you can do it, there's no law, but SHOULD we? I didn't consciously know this at the time, but in hindsight, at 8 I was finding my way, playing Legos, negotiating the friend groups on my street, going to Disney with my family, learning to read and write, establishing the building blocks of my life. Things that for better or worse I'm still calling on today to be successful. What are we teaching these kids when we're imbuing in them the sense that life is but a series of cook-offs, and as long as we cut our salmon perfectly (metaphor) we'll be fine and immune and we'll be thrust into the finale like the script says.
Life doesn't work that way. Life is unpredictable and not always fair. You can do EVERYTHING right and find out you're no better off than the guy next to you. There is no "immunity" in life, real or metaphorical. And I haven't even touched on the concept of the "one-on-ones" with these kids, where they are "forced" (I don't know how much is scripted and how much is impromptu) to come up with quippy summations of the last ten minutes of screen time.
I think it's important to step back and assess what are we teaching these kids, and the kids that watch this on television (and see this as "success"). What messages are we sending? What values are we promoting? Maybe it's fine, maybe there's no harm here, but we don't know that, and we haven't looked hard enough at it, IMO. It used to be a running joke about the "problems" facing kid actors; given that in 2022, "celebrity" includes things like "reality TV star", isn't it at least in the realm of possibility that this is contributing to some of the problems we're seeing elsewhere?
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I wonder how much of that is the parents living vicariously through their kids. I bet many of those kids would rather play legos and worry about who's got cooties, but their parents have decided what these kids are going to do and they will do it come hell or high water.
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I can't argue a single thing about that post, Bill. Didn't this really start with the Dance Moms/Pageant
shit craze on TLC/MTV from like the late 90s/early 00s? It's now getting out of hand. Food Network is really bad for it.
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I can't argue a single thing about that post, Bill. Didn't this really start with the Dance Moms/Pageant shit craze on TLC/MTV from like the late 90s/early 00s? It's now getting out of hand. Food Network is really bad for it.
Honestly, I feel bad for the kids; I guess it's a special experience, but just like we consider "will my eight year old really remember Disney?" it's the same here. And there's no guarantee it will be a positive experience, so there's the notion of carrying that for the rest of your life.
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Yeah, I really like Gordon Ramsay TV (my gf and I have been watching Hotel Hell lately which is so good) shows but the kid one is where I draw the line. I have no interest in watching that and I have no idea why people think putting young children in those positions is a good idea, even if the child is 100% onboard with doing it. It just feels a bit unethical in a way. I don't know. I won't support it.
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I don't think it's a huge deal. They're cooking. The chefs are usually really kind and supportive, the parents are always around, they get lessons and everything and a good amount of support. It also seems most of these kids come from really privileged families, so they have a lot of support.
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I don't think it's a huge deal. They're cooking. The chefs are usually really kind and supportive, the parents are always around, they get lessons and everything and a good amount of support. It also seems most of these kids come from really privileged families, so they have a lot of support.
Yeah, one of the girls in the final four is from Darien, CT (southwest CT) in Fairfield County. One of the richer counties in the United States.
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I don't think it's a huge deal. They're cooking. The chefs are usually really kind and supportive, the parents are always around, they get lessons and everything and a good amount of support. It also seems most of these kids come from really privileged families, so they have a lot of support.
Yeah, one of the girls in the final four is from Darien, CT (southwest CT) in Fairfield County. One of the richer counties in the United States.
Yea, I can usually tell by how they discuss their dishes.
"So my family travels to Japan and Norway often for vacations, so I've become very accustomed to cooking Norwegian/Japanese fusion"
"Yea, I tend to make oysters and beluga caviar for my family every week so I should be good with this"
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I can't argue a single thing about that post, Bill. Didn't this really start with the Dance Moms/Pageant shit craze on TLC/MTV from like the late 90s/early 00s? It's now getting out of hand. Food Network is really bad for it.
Honestly, I feel bad for the kids; I guess it's a special experience, but just like we consider "will my eight year old really remember Disney?" it's the same here. And there's no guarantee it will be a positive experience, so there's the notion of carrying that for the rest of your life.
Stads, you keep overthinking things all the time. It's good for kids to know that life isn't always a positive experience. Otherwise, you might as well be giving out participation trophies so the kids can grow up to be spoiled, entitled and whiny adults. Even though I'm not that fond of kids and don't really care to see them on tv, a cooking competition (just like any other competition) is a good learning experience, win or lose.
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So apparently there is some made up poutrage over how people end their emails. It is no longer acceptable to write "Best" or "Regards" because they are somehow passive aggressive?
:huh:
After some consideration, I've decided that my email sign off will now be, "I blame millenials" :P
Curious as to how you all do it.
Your loving son,
Queen Victoria
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I wonder how much of that is the parents living vicariously through their kids. I bet many of those kids would rather play legos and worry about who's got cooties, but their parents have decided what these kids are going to do and they will do it come hell or high water.
I think it's a couple of things. Rather than living vicariously, it may also be that they're hoping for a meal ticket. It may also be the case that the kid is wanting to train for a cush gig as an influencer.
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I can't argue a single thing about that post, Bill. Didn't this really start with the Dance Moms/Pageant shit craze on TLC/MTV from like the late 90s/early 00s? It's now getting out of hand. Food Network is really bad for it.
Honestly, I feel bad for the kids; I guess it's a special experience, but just like we consider "will my eight year old really remember Disney?" it's the same here. And there's no guarantee it will be a positive experience, so there's the notion of carrying that for the rest of your life.
Stads, you keep overthinking things all the time. It's good for kids to know that life isn't always a positive experience. Otherwise, you might as well be giving out participation trophies so the kids can grow up to be spoiled, entitled and whiny adults. Even though I'm not that fond of kids and don't really care to see them on tv, a cooking competition (just like any other competition) is a good learning experience, win or lose.
Well, first, I'm the Yngwie Malmsteen of overthinking things, so there's that.
EDIT: And while I concede that point, I'm not apologizing for it; most people don't think ENOUGH about this stuff, and thus the reliance on "opinion" and "feelings". I think that is a byproduct of social media; we don't have to dig in, we don't have to think, and so everything becomes a tactical, in the moment, visceral reaction. I'd like to think I'm doing yeoman's work
And second, I'm with you 100% on the "good that kids know". In fact, that's kind of why I posted what I did. It's not really about the cooking competition. If they were doing that at a local fair, entering their chili or whatever, then we'd be in full agreement. It's all the trappings of reality TV that I'm bogged about. I played sports since I was in Kindergarten, up to about five years ago. The things I learned about sportsmanship, leadership, teamwork, and winning and losing, have carried me to this day. Reality TV is not that; that's no more a "competition" in the true sense of the word than a WWF match. It's all the tropes that go around a reality TV show that give it the trappings of a real competition.
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I wonder how much of that is the parents living vicariously through their kids. I bet many of those kids would rather play legos and worry about who's got cooties, but their parents have decided what these kids are going to do and they will do it come hell or high water.
I think it's a couple of things. Rather than living vicariously, it may also be that they're hoping for a meal ticket. It may also be the case that the kid is wanting to train for a cush gig as an influencer.
As far as MCJ goes, I'd say more the latter. As Stads and I have been mentioning, the families of these kids are usually quite wealthy, so it's unlikely they want a meal ticket, but they might want to set up their kid for a more famous future.
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I wonder how much of that is the parents living vicariously through their kids. I bet many of those kids would rather play legos and worry about who's got cooties, but their parents have decided what these kids are going to do and they will do it come hell or high water.
I think it's a couple of things. Rather than living vicariously, it may also be that they're hoping for a meal ticket. It may also be the case that the kid is wanting to train for a cush gig as an influencer.
I don't think a kid would care about being an influencer, but I can definitely see the parents thinking of their kids as a meal ticket.
I would never try and force that kind of thing on my son, though. I don't ever see him really wanting to do something like this. He is a big fan of YouTube stars like Mark Roper, and he loves the YouTube channel Squirrel Stampede, so he sees that you can make money on YouTube as an influencer (god I hate that term!), but he's also only seven and I don't want to rush him into anything unless he really wants to do it. He's got plenty of time!
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I think the dream job for kids these days is to be an influencer. It's the modern equivalent of wanting to be famous via sports or acting. It's certainly not as peachy as one may think though. I don't think it's all the rad to be an influencer. Those who actually can make a living off social media work VERY hard and don't really make much money (unless you are at the top) and get no benefits. But that's a whole different topic.
I also think Stadler's point that I agreed with goes beyond just the one example of a cooking show where I trust Gordon isn't screwing with these kids.
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My wife is watching "Master Chef Junior", and I'm watching - against my will; married guys, amirite?
My wife and I figured out pretty quickly when we were dating our TV viewing and preferences were different. I told her I am pretty much never going to watch any "reality" show - which is basically all she ever watches - and she didn't have any problem with that. We did make a special point to watch Reacher as we are both fans of the books.
... some eight-year-old slicing a salmon that is bigger than him and he's already got all the reality TV lingo down; "if I don't step up my game, I'm not going to get the immunity and I'll find myself in an elimination challenge again!"
Did he make the heart symbol with his hands? I know that is your favorite.
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Jingle.wife will watch “her” shows while I’m watching hockey with jingle.kids, or while I’m working out. I don’t ask/expect her to watch the show *I* like that she has no interest in, so that door swings both ways.
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There was another thing that bugged me while we were at the doctor's in Boston last week. There was a sign on the wall to please refrain from using a cell phone. WUT?
I pointed it out to my wife and was like WTF? So I could talk to her in the waiting room, but if she were at home, I wouldn't be able to talk to her? That makes no sense.
Those signs exist in virtually every medical facility. The theory is that the cellular signal will interfere with certain medical equipment. I have no idea if it's real, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's BS (much like when they used to say that having your cell phone on in a plane would interfere with the plane's operation).
They can interfere with pacemakers, and I assume that a doctors office is a place where you are more likely to find a fair number of them.
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My wife is watching "Master Chef Junior", and I'm watching - against my will; married guys, amirite?
My wife and I figured out pretty quickly when we were dating our TV viewing and preferences were different. I told her I am pretty much never going to watch any "reality" show - which is basically all she ever watches - and she didn't have any problem with that. We did make a special point to watch Reacher as we are both fans of the books.
We aren't that firm about it; she watches a lot more reality TV than I do. She watches that "Below Deck" show and she watches the "90 Day Fiance" shows as well. I sometimes tune in, primarily for the cute girls, but draw the line at the ridiculous stuff like "Darcy and Stacey". Where our paths cross is when we sit down for our evening together and one of us gets there before the other. She doesn't like "The Curse Of Oak Island" or some of the Food Network stuff I watch (Guy's Grocery Games) but we don't really force the other to watch stuff we don't like.
... some eight-year-old slicing a salmon that is bigger than him and he's already got all the reality TV lingo down; "if I don't step up my game, I'm not going to get the immunity and I'll find myself in an elimination challenge again!"
Did he make the heart symbol with his hands? I know that is your favorite.
I don't remember exactly, but you're right; that stupid symbol makes me want to break someone's fingers. :)
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Employer mandatory meetings shoved up against the end of the fiscal year so the employer can check a box.
Today's is on sexual harassment in the work place. Supposedly it is an 8 hour training condensed into 2 hours but I'm currently 1 hour in and this attorney guy is yammering on and on about stupid shit we all should've learned in middle school and I feel like screaming.
"Be sure to make sure that hug is wanted. If the person you are leaning into leans away you need to pay attention to that." ::)
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There was another thing that bugged me while we were at the doctor's in Boston last week. There was a sign on the wall to please refrain from using a cell phone. WUT?
I pointed it out to my wife and was like WTF? So I could talk to her in the waiting room, but if she were at home, I wouldn't be able to talk to her? That makes no sense.
Those signs exist in virtually every medical facility. The theory is that the cellular signal will interfere with certain medical equipment. I have no idea if it's real, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's BS (much like when they used to say that having your cell phone on in a plane would interfere with the plane's operation).
They can interfere with pacemakers, and I assume that a doctors office is a place where you are more likely to find a fair number of them.
So do people who have pacemakers advised not to have a cell phone?
And is it only a phone call, or do the dangers also lie in texting, DTFing...?
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Employer mandatory meetings shoved up against the end of the fiscal year so the employer can check a box.
Today's is on sexual harassment in the work place. Supposedly it is an 8 hour training condensed into 2 hours but I'm currently 1 hour in and this attorney guy is yammering on and on about stupid shit we all should've learned in middle school and I feel like screaming.
"Be sure to make sure that hug is wanted. If the person you are leaning into leans away you need to pay attention to that." ::)
It's all about the bonuses and KPIs for the managers, it's so infuriating and shallow.
DTFing during it too......nice.
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Not with my company. Very strick and modern with meetings and training. Maybe it your place Harmony. As a manager, I want to be proactive.
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Not with my company. Very strick and modern with meetings and training. Maybe it your place Harmony. As a manager, I want to be proactive.
I'll come and work for you mate.
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The OSHA standard % is 7% for jobs. We set it at 1.5% this year. Safety is our #1 priority. Safety bonuses wvery minth. As a company, we had 8 OSHA incidents this year with 2700 employees.
Hell of a feat
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The OSHA standard % is 7% for jobs. We set it at 1.5% this year. Safety is our #1 priority. Safety bonuses wvery minth. As a company, we had 8 OSHA incidents this year with 2700 employees.
Hell of a feat
Shit, no vacancies for me then. :lol
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Employees had free choice with us. If they do not get the vaccine, we ask to wear a mask. That's it.
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Employees had free choice with us. If they do not get the vaccine, we ask to wear a mask. That's it.
I meant more your insanely low Health and Safety incident worker strike rate. :lol
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Employees had free choice with us. If they do not get the vaccine, we ask to wear a mask. That's it.
I meant more your insanely low Health and Safety incident worker strike rate. :lol
lol.... I think he got a little dyslexic, and read "vacancies" as "vaccines".
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Employees had free choice with us. If they do not get the vaccine, we ask to wear a mask. That's it.
I meant more your insanely low Health and Safety incident worker strike rate. :lol
lol.... I think he got a little dyslexic, and read "vacancies" as "vaccines".
:lol Yeah, that could explain it.
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Me no read. Lol
I actually wanted to point out our safety record at our site. I'm proud of our record.
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People who use the left turning lane as a merging lane. >:(
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Employer mandatory meetings shoved up against the end of the fiscal year so the employer can check a box.
Today's is on sexual harassment in the work place. Supposedly it is an 8 hour training condensed into 2 hours but I'm currently 1 hour in and this attorney guy is yammering on and on about stupid shit we all should've learned in middle school and I feel like screaming.
"Be sure to make sure that hug is wanted. If the person you are leaning into leans away you need to pay attention to that." ::)
It's all about the bonuses and KPIs for the managers, it's so infuriating and shallow.
DTFing during it too......nice
They gave us a 10 minute bio-break.
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Is "bio-break" an actual term? I've never heard that before.
When I see news headlines/stories proclaiming Juneteeth as a "paid holiday." Me, and millions of other Americans, are going to work on Monday, because it isn't a "paid holiday" for most of us.
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When I see news headlines/stories proclaiming Juneteeth as a "paid holiday." Me, and millions of other Americans, are going to work on Monday, because it isn't a "paid holiday" for most of us.
I think depending on your occupation paid holidays aren't as set as in some industries, no? I think most states are adopting this though.
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Right, so stop unilaterally calling it a "paid holiday" as if it applied to everyone, when it really only applies to a minority of workers.
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Right, so stop unilaterally calling it a "paid holiday" as if it applied to everyone, when it really only applies to a minority of workers.
Well, does everyone get Veteran's Day as a paid holiday? Or Memorial Day? Isn't Juneteenth supposed to be treated similarly?
I actually think it's up to each state to make it a paid holiday or not, and I don't think they all do it.
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Of course not. I don't think any level of government can mandate (god, that word...) a holiday being a paid day off across the board.
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Of course not. I don't think any level of government can mandate (god, that word...) a holiday being a paid day off across the board.
Why not? The Paid Holidays we have now are because they've been mandated. Maybe mandated isn't the right word, but passed by law. If your state passes a law that states Juneteenth as a paid holiday, then it will be.
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Can't speak for other states, but just looked it up for WA.
Washington State does not require employers to provide leave or pay for holidays, vacations, or bereavement. These benefits can be found in your employer policies or collective bargaining agreement. They are generally an agreement between an employer and employee. L&I does not enforce these agreements.
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Up here, there are Statutory Holidays that are National (Labour Day, Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years Day etc...), while others are set Provincially. I'm sure it's the same in the US no? Wouldn't those all be Nationally observed paid holidays (salaried, and Time + 1/2 / double time or whatever for hourly)?
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My company originally had Monday off as a holiday, but now we merged into another company and they do not have Juneteenth as a holiday so now we have to work Monday. I thought it was a federal holiday along with others like Memorial day that companies give employees off. Sucks, I thought our new company was better than this. Maybe next year since this is the first year and some companies just haven't recognized it yet?
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Stop whining you all. Wal Mart DC assholes closed just Christmas day durring the pandemic. They fucking blow.
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Stop whining you all. Wal Mart DC assholes closed just Christmas day durring the pandemic. They fucking blow.
*laughs in 15 years of hotel work*
I'm getting it paid off, but that's the corporate foodservice world for you... Tech companies embrace all the holidays.
Honestly though, Juneteenth is a more worthy reason for a paid federal holiday than Christmas ever was... Just my hot take.
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Y'all need unions. :P
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Y'all need unions. :P
My hotel job was a union gig.
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I was in an union once a long time ago (had no choice), but I am not anymore, and I am happy about that. They are somewhat useful, a necessary evil of sorts. But don't say that to a union person or they will come at you like you just insulted their grandma. :P
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Y'all need unions. :P
If by "y'all" you mean the United States, then no, we do not.
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Y'all need unions. :P
If by "y'all" you mean the United States, then no, we do not.
Do we need them? Or at least the threat of them? I feel like we do, indirectly.
I was having this conversation at work the other day. Probably about 25% of the stores in my company are Unionized. In my state, the number is closer to 50%
In Massachusetts Sunday Pay used to be time and a half, or 1.5 premium. Starting in 2019, it started ticking down from 1.5 to 1.4 and so on. This year it's 1.2 and it will disappear in two years. Copanies have to pay at least the state premium.
My company is still paying 1.5, and I said that as long as it's in the Union contract for the Union stores, we will continue to get it.
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Sweden gets 6 National holidays this year during weekdays, but that's on the low side because a lot of the national days fell on weekends this year. 11 or 12 is possible if the weeks align.
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Boy I really started something here.
My only point was that these holidays are not by default "paid holidays" for everyone, so I found calling them such was a tad exasperating. As to whether they should be, I can't say.
Sweden gets 6 National holidays this year during weekdays, but that's on the low side because a lot of the national days fell on weekends this year. 11 or 12 is possible if the weeks align.
If a holiday falls on a weekend, they don't recognize it on the preceding Friday (if Saturday) or following Monday (if Sunday)? That seems standard here.
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Boy I really started something here.
My only point was that these holidays are not by default "paid holidays" for everyone, so I found calling them such was a tad exasperating. As to whether they should be, I can't say.
Sweden gets 6 National holidays this year during weekdays, but that's on the low side because a lot of the national days fell on weekends this year. 11 or 12 is possible if the weeks align.
If a holiday falls on a weekend, they don't recognize it on the preceding Friday (if Saturday) or following Monday (if Sunday)? That seems standard here.
Not if its a day specific celebration like Epiphany or the Nation Day. Stuff like Easter and Midsommar obviously floats to the nearest weekend.
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Sweden gets 6 National holidays this year during weekdays, but that's on the low side because a lot of the national days fell on weekends this year. 11 or 12 is possible if the weeks align.
It seems my dutch coworker has a holiday every month :lol Plus a lot more mandated PTO time than us in the US. Definitely different the way things are done over seas than in the US.
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Y'all need unions. :P
If by "y'all" you mean the United States, then no, we do not.
Do we need them? Or at least the threat of them? I feel like we do, indirectly.
I was having this conversation at work the other day. Probably about 25% of the stores in my company are Unionized. In my state, the number is closer to 50%
In Massachusetts Sunday Pay used to be time and a half, or 1.5 premium. Starting in 2019, it started ticking down from 1.5 to 1.4 and so on. This year it's 1.2 and it will disappear in two years. Copanies have to pay at least the state premium.
My company is still paying 1.5, and I said that as long as it's in the Union contract for the Union stores, we will continue to get it.
Are you seeing all of that 1.5? Or are you giving some of that back to the union in fees? What's the net?
In my old company - who brought good things to light - for the years I was Environmental Counsel (and thus privy to this information) the non-union manufacturing facilities had higher productivity, had a better safety record, had broader healthcare access, and the employees netted higher wages as compared to the union facilities in the same division.
I get that this is not always the case, but it certainly is a reality. Do unions serve a purpose in certain instances? Sure. Do we NEED them? it's my opinion that they aren't the necessity they might once have been.
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Stads, I'm a non Union worker. My point is that as long as it's in the contract for the Union employees in the Union stores, the non union employees in the non union stores will likely continue to retain the Sunday pay premium of 1.5.
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In my old company - who brought good things to light - for the years I was Environmental Counsel (and thus privy to this information) the non-union manufacturing facilities had higher productivity, had a better safety record, had broader healthcare access, and the employees netted higher wages as compared to the union facilities in the same division.
I get that this is not always the case, but it certainly is a reality. Do unions serve a purpose in certain instances? Sure. Do we NEED them? it's my opinion that they aren't the necessity they might once have been.
I spent 16 years as a Store Manager for my company. 5.5 years in Non Union stores and 10.5 in Union stores, and I must say, there was literally no difference that I could tell.
Now I'm not supporting unions in any way. They look at members or especially potential members as nothing but dues generating product. I suppose, that's not all that different than how employers view employees when you think about it.
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Sweden gets 6 National holidays this year during weekdays, but that's on the low side because a lot of the national days fell on weekends this year. 11 or 12 is possible if the weeks align.
It seems my dutch coworker has a holiday every month :lol Plus a lot more mandated PTO time than us in the US. Definitely different the way things are done over seas than in the US.
I get 31 days a year plus national holidays, and if I don't use all of them I can carry up to 30 over to next year. I have 51 days I could spend this year.
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Of course not. I don't think any level of government can mandate (god, that word...) a holiday being a paid day off across the board.
Why not? The Paid Holidays we have now are because they've been mandated. Maybe mandated isn't the right word, but passed by law. If your state passes a law that states Juneteenth as a paid holiday, then it will be.
That's not true. There is NO holiday on which every employer is required by law to pay employees.
For starters, you have to distinguish between hourly employees and salaried employees. Salaried employees get paid regardless of when and how often they work. They are typically allowed a certain number of days off for vacation or sickness. Hourly employees, on the other hand, don't get paid unless they work, UNLESS...
Members of labor unions are different. Government employees are also different. Hourly employees in both of those groups may get paid for days when they don't work (and/or may be entitled to extra pay for working on certain days).
Now...there are federal holidays (11 of them): new year's day; MLK day; Washington's birthday (not presidents' day); memorial day; juneteenth; independence day; labor day; Columbus day; veterans' day; Thanksgiving; Christmas. Those are days when federal offices are closed. Whether hourly federal employees get paid for those days is something I don't know.
Each state also has state holidays. Most adopt most of the federal holidays and add a couple of their own: for example, California has Cesar Chavez day. Federal offices may be open on state holidays that aren't also federal holidays. Again, whether hourly state employees get paid on those days is something I don't know (even for California).
Each employer may have its own list of holidays. My employer gives us most of the federal holidays, but when I started, we didn't get MLK day or presidents' day. However, we have always gotten a "spring holiday," which always happens to coincide with good Friday. We also always get the day after Thanksgiving. I don't actually know if our hourly employees are paid on those days, but if they are, it's not because of any legal requirement that they be paid.
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Of course not. I don't think any level of government can mandate (god, that word...) a holiday being a paid day off across the board.
Why not? The Paid Holidays we have now are because they've been mandated. Maybe mandated isn't the right word, but passed by law. If your state passes a law that states Juneteenth as a paid holiday, then it will be.
That's not true. There is NO holiday on which every employer is required by law to pay employees.
It's not? OK.
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Are we talking full time employees, casual employees?
Over here casuals wouldn't get paid the public holidays unless they work. Me as a full timer, it's standard that we don't work the public holidays but we still get paid. Anyone as a full time employee would get paid the holiday and not work. I've worked on public holidays and gotten my normal pay but put in overtime for the holiday.
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In my old company - who brought good things to light - for the years I was Environmental Counsel (and thus privy to this information) the non-union manufacturing facilities had higher productivity, had a better safety record, had broader healthcare access, and the employees netted higher wages as compared to the union facilities in the same division.
I get that this is not always the case, but it certainly is a reality. Do unions serve a purpose in certain instances? Sure. Do we NEED them? it's my opinion that they aren't the necessity they might once have been.
I spent 16 years as a Store Manager for my company. 5.5 years in Non Union stores and 10.5 in Union stores, and I must say, there was literally no difference that I could tell.
Now I'm not supporting unions in any way. They look at members or especially potential members as nothing but dues generating product. I suppose, that's not all that different than how employers view employees when you think about it.
The difference is, we should all recognize that companies have their own agenda - by law, more or less, they are obligated to generate revenue - but unions only exist for the workers benefit. That's it. A company viewing their employees as a revenue generator is consistent with their end goals. The unions taking that same approach is a material conflict of interest.
Sorry; I don't mean to hammer you personally here; having been a construction guy for most of my (early life), I'm not a fan of unions.
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Are we talking full time employees, casual employees?
Over here casuals wouldn't get paid the public holidays unless they work. Me as a full timer, it's standard that we don't work the public holidays but we still get paid. Anyone as a full time employee would get paid the holiday and not work. I've worked on public holidays and gotten my normal pay but put in overtime for the holiday.
"Casual employee" isn't a term commonly used in the U.S. Like I mentioned, if you get paid an hourly wage, you generally don't get paid for time that you don't work, UNLESS you're a union member or a government employee (or, in some very limited circumstances, if you have an employment contract with your employer). That's true whether you're full-time or part-time. Of course, an employer may offer "holiday pay," but no employer is legally obligated to do that.
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Are we talking full time employees, casual employees?
Over here casuals wouldn't get paid the public holidays unless they work. Me as a full timer, it's standard that we don't work the public holidays but we still get paid. Anyone as a full time employee would get paid the holiday and not work. I've worked on public holidays and gotten my normal pay but put in overtime for the holiday.
"Casual employee" isn't a term commonly used in the U.S. Like I mentioned, if you get paid an hourly wage, you generally don't get paid for time that you don't work, UNLESS you're a union member or a government employee (or, in some very limited circumstances, if you have an employment contract with your employer). That's true whether you're full-time or part-time. Of course, an employer may offer "holiday pay," but no employer is legally obligated to do that.
I'm a full time hourly employee. I get PTO, sick days, and holidays like all the salary employees here. I just have to code my time sheets
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Of course not. I don't think any level of government can mandate (god, that word...) a holiday being a paid day off across the board.
Why not? The Paid Holidays we have now are because they've been mandated. Maybe mandated isn't the right word, but passed by law. If your state passes a law that states Juneteenth as a paid holiday, then it will be.
It will be for most state jobs, but it mostly depends on the company. I work for an aerospace company and we don't get state paid Holidays (President's Day, MLK Day etc.)
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In my old company - who brought good things to light - for the years I was Environmental Counsel (and thus privy to this information) the non-union manufacturing facilities had higher productivity, had a better safety record, had broader healthcare access, and the employees netted higher wages as compared to the union facilities in the same division.
I get that this is not always the case, but it certainly is a reality. Do unions serve a purpose in certain instances? Sure. Do we NEED them? it's my opinion that they aren't the necessity they might once have been.
Isn't it possible that the non-union shops did better in part due to competition from their union counterparts? If I have a shop in Dallas and a shop in Fort Worth, I can't really get away with paying my non-union FtW shop half of what my unionized Dallas shop earns with a corresponding difference in benefits. In fact, it's in my best interest to treat them better to discourage future unionization efforts, isn't it?
I suspect productivity and safety actually do benefit from being outside of the complacency unions can generate. Kind of seems to me that's in large part due to fear of being fired, though. I'd be curious to know which crew had the happier employees, and while from a business standpoint that doesn't much matter, from a human perspective it does.
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In my old company - who brought good things to light - for the years I was Environmental Counsel (and thus privy to this information) the non-union manufacturing facilities had higher productivity, had a better safety record, had broader healthcare access, and the employees netted higher wages as compared to the union facilities in the same division.
I get that this is not always the case, but it certainly is a reality. Do unions serve a purpose in certain instances? Sure. Do we NEED them? it's my opinion that they aren't the necessity they might once have been.
Isn't it possible that the non-union shops did better in part due to competition from their union counterparts? If I have a shop in Dallas and a shop in Fort Worth, I can't really get away with paying my non-union FtW shop half of what my unionized Dallas shop earns with a corresponding difference in benefits. In fact, it's in my best interest to treat them better to discourage future unionization efforts, isn't it?
I suspect productivity and safety actually do benefit from being outside of the complacency unions can generate. Kind of seems to me that's in large part due to fear of being fired, though. I'd be curious to know which crew had the happier employees, and while from a business standpoint that doesn't much matter, from a human perspective it does.
All good questions. The wages, I don't know because we were such a geographically diverse manufacturing organization, even within the U.S. (we had a knack for putting manufacturing plants in the hinterlands). So the union wages in, say, Erie, PA didn't really directly impact the wages at the nonunion plant in, say, Fort Worth, TX.
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Are we talking full time employees, casual employees?
Over here casuals wouldn't get paid the public holidays unless they work. Me as a full timer, it's standard that we don't work the public holidays but we still get paid. Anyone as a full time employee would get paid the holiday and not work. I've worked on public holidays and gotten my normal pay but put in overtime for the holiday.
"Casual employee" isn't a term commonly used in the U.S. Like I mentioned, if you get paid an hourly wage, you generally don't get paid for time that you don't work, UNLESS you're a union member or a government employee (or, in some very limited circumstances, if you have an employment contract with your employer). That's true whether you're full-time or part-time. Of course, an employer may offer "holiday pay," but no employer is legally obligated to do that.
Interesting.
The bolded part though, that's what casual employee means over here. Full time though we still get hourly rates but are lower due to the benefits. Although the full time staff get the paid holidays, the casuals don't unless they work the public holiday.
We have salary where you are paid an amount and work whatever is required, no hourly rate.
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I hate the dentist. Well...I mean, I don't hate HIM, but just dentistry in general. Had 2 fillings yesterday. Was supposed to be 3 but it took way longer than they had scheduled for me so now I get to go back. :censored
What made it worse was that I had a bad experience as a child and so it is always a bit anxiety-provoking and yesterday when they gave me the novocaine the epinephrine made me have almost a full on panic attack with my heart racing and shaking and hot flash. They said it happens sometimes but it certainly did not feel great and it was almost embarrassing. I'm one of those weird people who's resting heart rate is like 58-60, so when it goes up dramatically like that when I'm not exercising it feels horrible.
I guess I should just be thankful we aren't still in the middle ages of dentistry.
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I guess I should just be thankful we aren't still in the middle ages of dentistry.
Sometimes it feels that way. I had 7 wisdom teeth so I had them get removed. One of my surgeries the dentist snapping my teeth while I was awake (but numb) and after seeing shards of teeth fly out of my mouth I realize there was still room for improvement in dentistry :lol
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I hate the dentist. Well...I mean, I don't hate HIM, but just dentistry in general. Had 2 fillings yesterday. Was supposed to be 3 but it took way longer than they had scheduled for me so now I get to go back. :censored
They should've finished. Making you come back is ridiculous.
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I guess I should just be thankful we aren't still in the middle ages of dentistry.
Sometimes it feels that way. I had 7 wisdom teeth so I had them get removed. One of my surgeries the dentist snapping my teeth while I was awake (but numb) and after seeing shards of teeth fly out of my mouth I realize there was still room for improvement in dentistry :lol
Yikes! You know, there are a lot of professions I would not enjoy but dentistry has got to be at least top 10. Just think of every time you meet a "customer" and they already would rather being ANYWHERE than where you are.
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Because I've had so many problems with my teeth in the past few years I think I've come around to it, so much so that if I was in the medical field I'd rather be in dentistry. My wife was an ER nurse for 8 years and her horror stories scare me way more than dentists but I'm biased. I've been to the dentist so much I feel asleep during a root canal once :lol
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I hate the dentist. Well...I mean, I don't hate HIM, but just dentistry in general. Had 2 fillings yesterday. Was supposed to be 3 but it took way longer than they had scheduled for me so now I get to go back. :censored
They should've finished. Making you come back is ridiculous.
They said it would take 80 minutes. I was there for an hour and 40 minutes and they never got close to the third cavity. Honestly, I was fine with that. My jaw hurts so bad today I cannot imagine what it would be like if I'd had to go another half hour. Plus I didn't have to get the novocaine again. I absolutely hate that shit. I mean, I wouldn't say don't give it to me, but feeling like my face is a fully expanded balloon is so disconcerting.
I'm popping Advil today like candy. My whole head hurts. Ugh
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An hour and 40 minutes for TWO fillings? That doesn't compute. :lol
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yea that is pretty long for a couple of fillings.
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An hour and 40 minutes for TWO fillings? That doesn't compute. :lol
My dentist can do a crown in that amount of time. ???
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Both were molars and they were replacing old fillings. So numbing time, drilling and removal of the old fillings time, and then filling with the new stuff and sculpting/polishing? I don't fucking know. But they were big. I think he wanted to do a crown on one of them because there were cracks but I didn't want to do that plus it would cost me whereas these were 100% covered.
I needed to have this done before the pandemic so maybe me delaying it all meant it was worse than previously thought.
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My dentist set aside a 2 hour appointment for me to have a filling replaced, and that was after most of the old one had already fallen out. This was just last month. Part of it is because I have a very high tolerance for Novocaine, so depending on the amount of work to be done I typically get shot up twice with 15 minutes in between. It also depends on if any sides need to be reconstructed. Crater at the top of the tooth isn't a big deal. Two sides blown out takes a bit longer. In any case, I think I was done in barely over an hour.
Crown preps are every bit of two hours for me, but that's still because of the Novocaine, which sometimes requires a third shot.
Also, the secret to dealing with dental work is Alprazolam, and N2O if it's covered. The problem is pain and/or discomfort combined with a great deal of anxiety. Knock out the anxiety and the discomfort's typically not that bad. And being fucked up on nitrous makes everything fun. :tup
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I would've popped a Xanax if I didn't have to drive home.
My dentist does not use nitrous (I asked when I got the crown). From what I was told they felt it too risky for staff exposure so anything requiring that would be going to an oral surgeon or something. It is a Mormon practice so it might have to do with that. I like the staff (generally) and they don't do a lot of upsell which annoys the crap out of me.
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I would've popped a Xanax if I didn't have to drive home.
My dentist does not use nitrous (I asked when I got the crown). From what I was told they felt it too risky for staff exposure so anything requiring that would be going to an oral surgeon or something. It is a Mormon practice so it might have to do with that. I like the staff (generally) and they don't do a lot of upsell which annoys the crap out of me.
A Mormon dentist doesn't sound like all that much fun. My dentist went to the same shows and did the same drugs as me, so we always have plenty to talk about. :lol
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The only things I ask from my dentist are 1) do good work, and 2) make sure I feel as little as humanly possible.
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I remember getting my last two wisdom teeth pulled last year by an oral surgeon. When setting up the appointment, they asked me on the phone, "Do you want anesthesia?" I was like, "Uh, yeah." :lol Who says no to that?? Yes, by all means, knock me out.
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I've been to the dentist so much I feel asleep during a root canal once :lol
Never fallen asleep but there were a couple times where I was falling into infinity as they say in the dentist's chair.
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I had my wisdom teeth removed when I was a teen, but I've had three extractions as an adult. The last one was a couple of months ago.
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I've been to the dentist so much I feel asleep during a root canal once :lol
Never fallen asleep but there were a couple times where I was falling into infinity as they say in the dentist's chair.
So they..um..took away your pain?
Sorry..
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I've been to the dentist so much I feel asleep during a root canal once :lol
Never fallen asleep but there were a couple times where I was falling into infinity as they say in the dentist's chair.
So they..um..took away your pain?
Sorry..
12 shots needle sticks for that one so, yea lol.
I'd say the worst pain has been the amount I've had to pay out of pocket for my luxury bones :(
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I remember getting my last two wisdom teeth pulled last year by an oral surgeon. When setting up the appointment, they asked me on the phone, "Do you want anesthesia?" I was like, "Uh, yeah." :lol Who says no to that?? Yes, by all means, knock me out.
When I had my wisdom teeth pulled, I had them knock me out as well. They told me to count backwards from 10 to 1, and by 7 I was safe in the light that surrounded me. Woke up afterwards a slobbering mess because they also had to remove a saliva gland from the front of my mouth, but holy shit was that a fun trip.
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I remember getting my last two wisdom teeth pulled last year by an oral surgeon. When setting up the appointment, they asked me on the phone, "Do you want anesthesia?" I was like, "Uh, yeah." :lol Who says no to that?? Yes, by all means, knock me out.
When I had my wisdom teeth pulled, I had them knock me out as well. They told me to count backwards from 10 to 1, and by 7 I was safe in the light that surrounded me. Woke up afterwards a slobbering mess because they also had to remove a saliva gland from the front of my mouth, but holy shit was that a fun trip.
I was out for nearly three hours while they removed all my wisdom teeth. All four were impacted, so they had to be shattered and removed piece by piece. When I came to, I apparently asked multiple nurses if they wanted to come back to my house and play N64. I was like 23 at the time :lol
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I have a generally high tolerance for pain everywhere except for the mouth. My biggest nightmare is getting hit in the mouth. The Sopranos episode where Tony kicks the guy in the head while he's laying on the steps is horror-inducing to me. So the dentist, for me, is not fun. I went almost ten years after high school without going once because my childhood dentists (a family friend; his nephew is my eye doctor) was a butcher. A girlfriend in law school finally convinced me that I should go regularly to avoid the "big catastrophy" and so far she has been right. I go three times a year like clockwork and the only real work I've had to have done is a crown.
Every couple months or so Dave and would have a conversation about God, and he will occasionally ask me "why do you believe there's a god?". I'm tempted to say, "because I was born with only two wisdom teeth and neither have to be removed." (Both on the right side, one is in it's "normal" place, and one is sideways, down by my jaw, and would be major surgery to remove because it's so close to one of the facial nerves).
Most times in the chair, I'm gripping my hands together tightly, and it's everything I can do not to flinch or cringe. Even certain things in cleanings - some of the scrapings, when they measure the gum recession - will make me wince. It's horrible, and I spend most of the time in the room apologizing, sometimes in advance, to the hygienist. Unfortunately, I've watched too much Ridiculousness to submit to nitrous. I can just see myself complimenting the hygienist for her rack or something equally juvenile. It's just way too much stress.
(FYI, I wrote this to be humorous and entertaining, but it's 100% accurate as far as my feelings for the dentist go.)
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I have a generally high tolerance for pain everywhere except for the mouth. My biggest nightmare is getting hit in the mouth.
I've never felt closer to you.
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I remember getting my last two wisdom teeth pulled last year by an oral surgeon. When setting up the appointment, they asked me on the phone, "Do you want anesthesia?" I was like, "Uh, yeah." :lol Who says no to that?? Yes, by all means, knock me out.
When I had my wisdom teeth pulled, I had them knock me out as well. They told me to count backwards from 10 to 1, and by 7 I was safe in the light that surrounded me. Woke up afterwards a slobbering mess because they also had to remove a saliva gland from the front of my mouth, but holy shit was that a fun trip.
I made it to 8, then woke up in recovery and handed over my credit card to pay for the procedure while I was in a stupor (i had mine taken out when I was 25 . In my young naivety, I didn't have dental insurance and just paid for cleanings in cash). Three of the four teeth were impacted and were covered by my health insurance (there was an abcess and infection) and the fourth wisdom tooth I had to pay cash for.
Ever since then I have had dental insurance. :facepalm:
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Those articles that are super long for no reason other than to display ads on the page, delving into needless backstory nobody cares about or asked for. The info you clicked the link for is usually in the final sentence or paragraph, and sometimes doesn't give you the answer you were looking for.
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Those articles that are super long for no reason other than to display ads on the page, delving into needless backstory nobody cares about or asked for. The info you clicked the link for is usually in the final sentence or paragraph, and sometimes doesn't give you the answer you were looking for.
I've actually found some of these stories on youtube where at least you can fast forward through.
I am out on any story that is a slideshow.
I also can't stand opening an article, and then some ad starts coming through my audio.
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Those articles that are super long for no reason other than to display ads on the page, delving into needless backstory nobody cares about or asked for. The info you clicked the link for is usually in the final sentence or paragraph, and sometimes doesn't give you the answer you were looking for.
That is almost every recipe I open. 8 pages (or whatever) of the history of cake, and the writer's personal relationship to cake, notes on the best kinds of butter from their favorite store, 5 huge ads, and a personal history of the time they made this cake for their dog who didn't like it. Thankfully they've begun putting "jump to the recipe" at the top and I can just ignore it.
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I have a generally high tolerance for pain everywhere except for the mouth. My biggest nightmare is getting hit in the mouth. The Sopranos episode where Tony kicks the guy in the head while he's laying on the steps is horror-inducing to me. So the dentist, for me, is not fun. I went almost ten years after high school without going once because my childhood dentists (a family friend; his nephew is my eye doctor) was a butcher. A girlfriend in law school finally convinced me that I should go regularly to avoid the "big catastrophy" and so far she has been right. I go three times a year like clockwork and the only real work I've had to have done is a crown.
Every couple months or so Dave and would have a conversation about God, and he will occasionally ask me "why do you believe there's a god?". I'm tempted to say, "because I was born with only two wisdom teeth and neither have to be removed." (Both on the right side, one is in it's "normal" place, and one is sideways, down by my jaw, and would be major surgery to remove because it's so close to one of the facial nerves).
Most times in the chair, I'm gripping my hands together tightly, and it's everything I can do not to flinch or cringe. Even certain things in cleanings - some of the scrapings, when they measure the gum recession - will make me wince. It's horrible, and I spend most of the time in the room apologizing, sometimes in advance, to the hygienist. Unfortunately, I've watched too much Ridiculousness to submit to nitrous. I can just see myself complimenting the hygienist for her rack or something equally juvenile. It's just way too much stress.
(FYI, I wrote this to be humorous and entertaining, but it's 100% accurate as far as my feelings for the dentist go.)
Seriously, Xanax. It's not the pain, it's the anxiety about the pain. I don't even take one for cleanings anymore. I'm in every 3 or 4 months (side effect of the immunosuppressants), and after a few visits I realized that it really wasn't all that bad at all. I'd been getting worked up over nothing.
Doesn't apply to everybody, but I also figured out that it was the ultrasound thingy that was causing the most discomfort. I had them switch to the old school metal hook, and cleanings are far better now.
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Here's a good one. I ordered a sandwich online from a local deli for pick up. Just a sandwich, no combo or anything. In the bag I found a plastic wrapped knife, fork and soup spoon. Really? This is the difference between an indoctrinated, programmed robot and a freethinking human being with situational skills.
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Here's a good one. I ordered a sandwich online from a local deli for pick up. Just a sandwich, no combo or anything. In the bag I found a plastic wrapped knife, fork and soup spoon. Really? This is the difference between an indoctrinated, programmed robot and a freethinking human being with situational skills.
It's the same as the people who look directly at my gray beard and ask to see my ID when buying wine. These are the people who'd card my dad, simply because it's easier than making a reasonable assumption. Unless you're an airline pilot or a firefighter you should be able to use some damn discretion. Those people annoy the hell out of me.
At the same time, I wish everybody gave me plasticware whether I need it for my order or not. Can't have too many prepackaged F/K/S/napkin/S&P packs, as far as I'm concerned.
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Here's a good one. I ordered a sandwich online from a local deli for pick up. Just a sandwich, no combo or anything. In the bag I found a plastic wrapped knife, fork and soup spoon. Really? This is the difference between an indoctrinated, programmed robot and a freethinking human being with situational skills.
I wonder if the bags are preloaded and staged ahead of time. One of those downtime tasks.
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Here's a good one. I ordered a sandwich online from a local deli for pick up. Just a sandwich, no combo or anything. In the bag I found a plastic wrapped knife, fork and soup spoon. Really? This is the difference between an indoctrinated, programmed robot and a freethinking human being with situational skills.
It's the same as the people who look directly at my gray beard and ask to see my ID when buying wine. These are the people who'd card my dad, simply because it's easier than making a reasonable assumption. Unless you're an airline pilot or a firefighter you should be able to use some damn discretion. Those people annoy the hell out of me.
At the same time, I wish everybody gave me plasticware whether I need it for my order or not. Can't have too many prepackaged F/K/S/napkin/S&P packs, as far as I'm concerned.
No kidding; when I going into the office regularly, the extra ones were a godsend, for the one time the person at the deli WASN'T thinking straight.
But generally, I'm with you; it's always a treat to encounter someone who's engaged in their work and actively thinking.
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Id rather have the extra utensils and not need them than have a meal that requires them and they weren't provided. In the end, I bet it's just an automatic motion by the packer to throw in utensils regardless of the meal. It's food in a bag so there goes a set of utensils as well.
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That's another thing. People who dance around the issue and make excuses. Do us all a favor. Get to the point and spare us the propaganda or just STFU.
Here's a good one. I ordered a sandwich online from a local deli for pick up. Just a sandwich, no combo or anything. In the bag I found a plastic wrapped knife, fork and soup spoon. Really? This is the difference between an indoctrinated, programmed robot and a freethinking human being with situational skills.
I wonder if the bags are preloaded and staged ahead of time. One of those downtime tasks.
No, the people are preloaded.
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No, the people are preloaded.
:lol
I think they're actually unloaded.
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Here's a good one. I ordered a sandwich online from a local deli for pick up. Just a sandwich, no combo or anything. In the bag I found a plastic wrapped knife, fork and soup spoon. Really? This is the difference between an indoctrinated, programmed robot and a freethinking human being with situational skills.
It's likely part of the procedure when bagging meals. We have to do this whenever we bag delivery orders. Call-Ins, Walk-Ins, and Online Order pickups do not require a fork or knife because the person is coming into the store and can get these things on a counter.
These are things required by the company, and believe me, these higher up bosses do care about little things like that, and people do actually complain when not getting utensils, even if it's just a sandwich order.
Also, the person bagging could've been on auto-pilot, with lots of other orders to bag, and just happened to put one in your sandwich only bag.
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So last Thursday I submitted my letter of resignation. I sent it to the medical director (Dude who hired me), director of the mental health clinic (where I work), the office manager, and my personal supervisor.
About a week later? No actual response. I even emailed the director a second time and nothing. I know that the office manager at least read it since she (I assume it was her) blocked out my schedule after what I said my last day was. But still, a week and no response? Very weird.
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That IS weird. Do you want me to talk to them for you? I'm charming.
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So last Thursday I submitted my letter of resignation. I sent it to the medical director (Dude who hired me), director of the mental health clinic (where I work), the office manager, and my personal supervisor.
About a week later? No actual response. I even emailed the director a second time and nothing. I know that the office manager at least read it since she (I assume it was her) blocked out my schedule after what I said my last day was. But still, a week and no response? Very weird.
This does give you the unique opportunity to dress up in a white-collared shirt and give the management a taste of their own medicine however:
(https://i.imgur.com/0PCGQDY.gif)
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That IS weird. Do you want me to talk to them for you? I'm charming.
This should be recorded, don't you think? :laugh:
OK, I have a question about speed humps/bumps. I frequently drive through a neighborhood that has a fairly long street with about 7-8 speed humps/bumps in a 25 mph zone. They are lower to the ground than most and wide. I find my vehicle can stay at 25 mph and clear them with very little impact felt inside. I drive a hybrid vehicle and it is amazing how smoothly I can clear them. Anyway, it always seemed to me that the purpose was to keep people at the posted speed limit, not cause people to driver under the speed limit. Yet invariably I get behind someone who feels the need to almost stop completely at each one and keep the traffic backed up behind them because they turn a 25 mph zone into a 10 mph zone.
AITA for staying at the posted speed limit when I'm not driving behind someone driving like my granny? Is there something I'm missing about speed humps/bumps?
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OK, I have a question about speed humps/bumps. I frequently drive through a neighborhood that has a fairly long street with about 7-8 speed humps/bumps in a 25 mph zone. They are lower to the ground than most and wide. I find my vehicle can stay at 25 mph and clear them with very little impact felt inside. I drive a hybrid vehicle and it is amazing how smoothly I can clear them. Anyway, it always seemed to me that the purpose was to keep people at the posted speed limit, not cause people to driver under the speed limit. Yet invariably I get behind someone who feels the need to almost stop completely at each one and keep the traffic backed up behind them because they turn a 25 mph zone into a 10 mph zone.
AITA for staying at the posted speed limit when I'm not driving behind someone driving like my granny? Is there something I'm missing about speed humps/bumps?
Ugh you bring up something that was just recently on my mind. The speedbumps near a shopping center by work that I go to for lunch has the worst speed bumps. Its also 25mph but these are very large bumps and you don't want to go at them over 10mph and honestly, crawling at 5mph is closer to what you want to do to not shake yourself up too bad. I don't get it. How is this helping anything? I figured the same, the bumps should be to keep you at the posted limit. But what do I know?
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I'm done with 'woke'. Since we are in campaign season all I see are these ridiculous ads that constantly throw around the term of 'woke'. I hate how they always have to latch onto a term and then beat the crap out of it. Well, they have and I am sick and tired of hearing it.
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Well, "woke" is a term that was literally hijacked from black people by white people, like a lot of other things. So yeah, it is annoying at times.
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OK, I have a question about speed humps/bumps. I frequently drive through a neighborhood that has a fairly long street with about 7-8 speed humps/bumps in a 25 mph zone. They are lower to the ground than most and wide. I find my vehicle can stay at 25 mph and clear them with very little impact felt inside. I drive a hybrid vehicle and it is amazing how smoothly I can clear them. Anyway, it always seemed to me that the purpose was to keep people at the posted speed limit, not cause people to driver under the speed limit. Yet invariably I get behind someone who feels the need to almost stop completely at each one and keep the traffic backed up behind them because they turn a 25 mph zone into a 10 mph zone.
AITA for staying at the posted speed limit when I'm not driving behind someone driving like my granny? Is there something I'm missing about speed humps/bumps?
They're a stupid solution to a marginal, at best, problem. The front of my car is very low to the ground. I'm one of those people that has to crawl over them. You raise an interesting point that I hadn't considered, though. You should necessarily be able to drive over them at the posted speed limit, or at least something close to it. That is almost never, ever the case. And in all honesty, that's one I can't even blame on local government. Typically it's the fault of the neighborhood homeowners.
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Here's a good one. I ordered a sandwich online from a local deli for pick up. Just a sandwich, no combo or anything. In the bag I found a plastic wrapped knife, fork and soup spoon. Really? This is the difference between an indoctrinated, programmed robot and a freethinking human being with situational skills.
It's likely part of the procedure when bagging meals. We have to do this whenever we bag delivery orders. Call-Ins, Walk-Ins, and Online Order pickups do not require a fork or knife because the person is coming into the store and can get these things on a counter.
These are things required by the company, and believe me, these higher up bosses do care about little things like that, and people do actually complain when not getting utensils, even if it's just a sandwich order.
Also, the person bagging could've been on auto-pilot, with lots of other orders to bag, and just happened to put one in your sandwich only bag.
Those are nothing but excuses and a shortcut to thinking. I'm not interested. Next time you want to twist a post around to fit your own narrative, just move on instead with your windbaggery.
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Here's a good one. I ordered a sandwich online from a local deli for pick up. Just a sandwich, no combo or anything. In the bag I found a plastic wrapped knife, fork and soup spoon. Really? This is the difference between an indoctrinated, programmed robot and a freethinking human being with situational skills.
It's likely part of the procedure when bagging meals. We have to do this whenever we bag delivery orders. Call-Ins, Walk-Ins, and Online Order pickups do not require a fork or knife because the person is coming into the store and can get these things on a counter.
These are things required by the company, and believe me, these higher up bosses do care about little things like that, and people do actually complain when not getting utensils, even if it's just a sandwich order.
Also, the person bagging could've been on auto-pilot, with lots of other orders to bag, and just happened to put one in your sandwich only bag.
Those are nothing but excuses and a shortcut to thinking. I'm not interested. Next time you want to twist a post around to fit your own narrative, just move on instead with your windbaggery.
I don't think you read my posts anymore, but I'll throw it out anyway. Seems to me he was actually backing up your point. He was illustrating what you were saying, which isn't actually wrong. Programmed robot and not a freethinking human are exactly the same thing as indoctrinated and autopilot. Saying that he was twisting your point around makes no sense, and calling him a windbag tells us that you're only interested in replies when they give you the opportunity to be a dick.
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I don't know, I'm starting to dig the "Chaotic Cranky" vibe this guy has going on :D
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OK, I have a question about speed humps/bumps. I frequently drive through a neighborhood that has a fairly long street with about 7-8 speed humps/bumps in a 25 mph zone. They are lower to the ground than most and wide. I find my vehicle can stay at 25 mph and clear them with very little impact felt inside. I drive a hybrid vehicle and it is amazing how smoothly I can clear them. Anyway, it always seemed to me that the purpose was to keep people at the posted speed limit, not cause people to driver under the speed limit. Yet invariably I get behind someone who feels the need to almost stop completely at each one and keep the traffic backed up behind them because they turn a 25 mph zone into a 10 mph zone.
AITA for staying at the posted speed limit when I'm not driving behind someone driving like my granny? Is there something I'm missing about speed humps/bumps?
Ugh you bring up something that was just recently on my mind. The speedbumps near a shopping center by work that I go to for lunch has the worst speed bumps. Its also 25mph but these are very large bumps and you don't want to go at them over 10mph and honestly, crawling at 5mph is closer to what you want to do to not shake yourself up too bad. I don't get it. How is this helping anything? I figured the same, the bumps should be to keep you at the posted limit. But what do I know?
My old Eldorado took all bumps like a feather on a cotton bed from inside the car however the suspension, shocks, nuts and bolts are still 'feelin it' so I can see where some people, like me, are thinking of taking care of the car to ease the jarring, but yes, some do go a little overboard.
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OK, I have a question about speed humps/bumps. I frequently drive through a neighborhood that has a fairly long street with about 7-8 speed humps/bumps in a 25 mph zone. They are lower to the ground than most and wide. I find my vehicle can stay at 25 mph and clear them with very little impact felt inside. I drive a hybrid vehicle and it is amazing how smoothly I can clear them. Anyway, it always seemed to me that the purpose was to keep people at the posted speed limit, not cause people to driver under the speed limit. Yet invariably I get behind someone who feels the need to almost stop completely at each one and keep the traffic backed up behind them because they turn a 25 mph zone into a 10 mph zone.
AITA for staying at the posted speed limit when I'm not driving behind someone driving like my granny? Is there something I'm missing about speed humps/bumps?
They're a stupid solution to a marginal, at best, problem. The front of my car is very low to the ground. I'm one of those people that has to crawl over them. You raise an interesting point that I hadn't considered, though. You should necessarily be able to drive over them at the posted speed limit, or at least something close to it. That is almost never, ever the case. And in all honesty, that's one I can't even blame on local government. Typically it's the fault of the neighborhood homeowners.
Oh, there is definitely an HOA in this neighborhood. But the part about the posted speed limit is what always gets me. I thought driving under the speed limit (when it doesn't violate the basic rule) was considered obstruction of traffic which is definitely something you can get a ticket for. As for vehicles that are unable to drive at the posted speed, I think those vehicles can also be ticketed for obstructing traffic.
Obviously traffic rules vary by jurisdiction but just this one time, I'd like a cop or a traffic court judge explain this to me. :lol
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Well, "woke" is a term that was literally hijacked from black people by white people, like a lot of other things. So yeah, it is annoying at times.
Oh, I know so I am not surprised by who I see constantly batting it around as the du jour 'bad word' of the time. Makes me wonder if they even know what they are talking about. Nevermind, I know they don't, they're politicians.
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Well, "woke" is a term that was literally hijacked from black people by white people, like a lot of other things. So yeah, it is annoying at times.
It was hijacked twice. Once by white people to show how they were on board with the whole Woke movement, and again by those who chose to mock them.
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I'm done with 'woke'. Since we are in campaign season all I see are these ridiculous ads that constantly throw around the term of 'woke'. I hate how they always have to latch onto a term and then beat the crap out of it. Well, they have and I am sick and tired of hearing it.
Well, "woke" is a term that was literally hijacked from black people by white people, like a lot of other things. So yeah, it is annoying at times.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2017/jul/20/the-power-of-framing-its-not-what-you-say-its-how-you-say-it
I don't know about you, Prof, but I would guess Harmony is already aware of George Lakoff. "Framing"; it's the essence of politics (in the broadest sense of the word). Left, right, white, black, men, women... language is a way of distinction. Of reinforcing the in-groups and out-groups.
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Well, "woke" is a term that was literally hijacked from black people by white people, like a lot of other things. So yeah, it is annoying at times.
It was hijacked twice. Once by white people to show how they were on board with the whole Woke movement, and again by those who chose to mock them.
For some, the "virtue signaling" of a word like "woke" is itself exasperating. See my post above about "framing".
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Seeing the inlaws at their house and I'm the official griller in 93 degree Temps. Ugh.
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Things I find exasperating? Today.
Slipped this morning and banged my wrist hard on a door (still sore, I am stunned I didn't break it). I don't know how I kept balance and managed to not fall.
My car wouldn't start when I attempted to go back to work from lunch, so I had to work from home in the afternoon and just felt like I was playing catch-up. Battery was dead in the car and I got a new one a bit ago.
Throw in a few stomach issues I had for a while, and this day flat out sucked. :censored :censored
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Things I find exasperating? Today.
Slipped this morning and banged my wrist hard on a door (still sore, I am stunned I didn't break it). I don't know how I kept balance and managed to not fall.
My car wouldn't start when I attempted to go back to work from lunch, so I had to work from home in the afternoon and just felt like I was playing catch-up. Battery was dead in the car and I got a new one a bit ago.
Throw in a few stomach issues I had for a while, and this day flat out sucked. :censored :censored
Something about this week. I was complaining to my coworkers what a drag this week has been and it was only Tuesday. Right now I am dealing with a borderline migraine that started early afternoon. Just a sucky day all around.
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Things I find exasperating? Today.
Slipped this morning and banged my wrist hard on a door (still sore, I am stunned I didn't break it). I don't know how I kept balance and managed to not fall.
When I first read this post, I thought you had typed "banged my wife hard on a door," and I thought, shouldn't this be in the What Made You Happy Today thread? :biggrin:
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Things I find exasperating? Today.
Slipped this morning and banged my wrist hard on a door (still sore, I am stunned I didn't break it). I don't know how I kept balance and managed to not fall.
When I first read this post, I thought you had typed "banged my wife hard on a door," and I thought, shouldn't this be in the What Made You Happy Today thread? :biggrin:
:lol :lol
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Back in mid-May I had a client referred to me who needed some assistance with getting on medical insurance. I tried diligently since the to reach her - left voice messages, text messages etc and ultimately mailed out a letter saying hey - if you want my help contact me and if I don't hear from you by July 1, I'm done and moving on with other clients.
So this afternoon my phone starts blowing up and it's her...she even tried blocking her number on her cell so I couldn't see it was her. I was busy all afternoon and didn't answer my phone though was aware she was repeatedly calling/texting me. Apparently she needs my help RIGHT NOW! ::)
I love helping people but jeezus c'mon... :facepalm:
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Brought a service station BTL roll - eating it on the way home, exasperated to find this one had no B. TL sandwiches suck.
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So we get our health insurance through my wife's work. Her insurance was so much better than mine (Blue Cross) for my diabetic meds. But her company switched to Blue Cross on June 1st. I went to pick up my insulin the other day. Under her old insurance, my three month supply cost $50. Now...$225!
WTF??
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So we get our health insurance through my wife's work. Her insurance was so much better than mine (Blue Cross) for my diabetic meds. But her company switched to Blue Cross on June 1st. I went to pick up my insulin the other day. Under her old insurance, my three month supply cost $50. Now...$225!
WTF??
Fuck me dead, that's like a 450% markup!!
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So we get our health insurance through my wife's work. Her insurance was so much better than mine (Blue Cross) for my diabetic meds. But her company switched to Blue Cross on June 1st. I went to pick up my insulin the other day. Under her old insurance, my three month supply cost $50. Now...$225!
WTF??
Oh, come on, Tim. We've all got to do our part to make sure corporate profits remain high. How else can we insure the wealthy remain our superiors? That's what being a serf is all about.
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So we get our health insurance through my wife's work. Her insurance was so much better than mine (Blue Cross) for my diabetic meds. But her company switched to Blue Cross on June 1st. I went to pick up my insulin the other day. Under her old insurance, my three month supply cost $50. Now...$225!
WTF??
Oh, come on, Tim. We've all got to do our part to make sure corporate profits remain high. How else can we insure the wealthy remain our superiors? That's what being a serf is all about.
Both of my insulins will now run me $100 a month. Thank God for Spotify.
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So we get our health insurance through my wife's work. Her insurance was so much better than mine (Blue Cross) for my diabetic meds. But her company switched to Blue Cross on June 1st. I went to pick up my insulin the other day. Under her old insurance, my three month supply cost $50. Now...$225!
WTF??
Oh, come on, Tim. We've all got to do our part to make sure corporate profits remain high. How else can we insure the wealthy remain our superiors? That's what being a serf is all about.
It's not the corporate profits; it's the wealth reallocation for socialized medicine! :) :) :) :) :) :)
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I love getting a bill that you know should be covered and you know damn well it was coded incorrectly. Why do I know this coding bullshit? Because I have to. The incompetence of both the hospital billing and our insurances is mind blowing. Nevermind they can't even communicate. You have to be the liaison for them. What do I pay all this money for anyway?
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You mean like this? ;D
(https://imgur.com/eJxHwXy.jpg)
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LOL Not like that.
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LOL Not like that.
Did you not get a hat? You should ask for a hat.
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LOL Not like that.
Did you not get a hat? You should ask for a hat.
I wear many hats.
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So we get our health insurance through my wife's work. Her insurance was so much better than mine (Blue Cross) for my diabetic meds. But her company switched to Blue Cross on June 1st. I went to pick up my insulin the other day. Under her old insurance, my three month supply cost $50. Now...$225!
WTF??
Did you see Gavin Newsom's announcement yesterday that California is going to be making their own insulin? He just signed off on the budget allocating 100 million bucks to produce insulin with the plan to make it cheaper "almost at cost" for people in need. He's also touting it to be a jobs creator and supply chain stabilizer. I did not hear anything about a timeline though. I'm hopeful it doesn't go the way of California's plan for high speed rail.
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So we get our health insurance through my wife's work. Her insurance was so much better than mine (Blue Cross) for my diabetic meds. But her company switched to Blue Cross on June 1st. I went to pick up my insulin the other day. Under her old insurance, my three month supply cost $50. Now...$225!
WTF??
Did you see Gavin Newsom's announcement yesterday that California is going to be making their own insulin? He just signed off on the budget allocating 100 million bucks to produce insulin with the plan to make it cheaper "almost at cost" for people in need. He's also touting it to be a jobs creator and supply chain stabilizer. I did not hear anything about a timeline though. I'm hopeful it doesn't go the way of California's plan for high speed rail.
I did not see that. I can't see $100M going very far though. I hope it works out. I wouldn't qualify on a need based basis anyway I wouldn't think, but whatever they can do for those in need...go for it!
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They don't have insulin, but I have been hearing a lot of great things about Mark Cuban's pharmacy that he opened. He's trying to help make stupid expensive meds much cheaper.
https://costplusdrugs.com/
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I'm on Facebook. While I have Twitter and Instagram accounts, I RARELY go on there. A friend posted something about some really good food from @owenoiubnv (not the actual "name"). The picture looked good and got me hungry, but fuck if I know what @owenoiubnv is. Other times, it'll be a photo with a caption saying, had a great time with @stonecoldfox and @phatasswhitegurl. Why, people, why?!
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I'm on Facebook. While I have Twitter and Instagram accounts, I RARELY go on there. A friend posted something about some really good food from @owenoiubnv (not the actual "name"). The picture looked good and got me hungry, but fuck if I know what @owenoiubnv is. Other times, it'll be a photo with a caption saying, had a great time with @stonecoldfox and @phatasswhitegurl. Why, people, why?!
It's likely because the person posted that on a site where you can @ these people but also cross posted it to Facebook where that doesn't link the same way. I see this all the time and it does bother me a bit too because it's a bit lazy. If I want to cross post between platforms, I usually do it separately to avoid this. But most people don't really care because it's more work and it probably doesn't bother people like you or as as much as others.
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Late night TV. I just went down a rabbit hole with watching Ringo Starr on Jimmy Kimmel, then Paul on Letterman... and the whole format is ridiculous. The host tees up a softball question, the guest makes a half-assed joke (which, for Ringo and Paul, they've probably made 1,000 times over their 60 year careers in the spotlight) that doesn't actually answer the question, and the crown applauds like they just found out the secret to everlasting life. Unreal.
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Late night TV. I just went down a rabbit hole with watching Ringo Starr on Jimmy Kimmel, then Paul on Letterman... and the whole format is ridiculous. The host tees up a softball question, the guest makes a half-assed joke (which, for Ringo and Paul, they've probably made 1,000 times over their 60 year careers in the spotlight) that doesn't actually answer the question, and the crown applauds like they just found out the secret to everlasting life. Unreal.
Even the more serious chat shows of yore did that. When you get down to it even Dick Cavett and Larry King were mostly just steering people into telling stories about themselves. They might be able to get a layer or two deeper in the person's personality, but they're still just letting them talk about what they want to, for the most part. I suppose the alternatives were to get into more serious news territory, I'm sure you dug Koppel's Nightline as much as I did, or create panel discussions. Say what you will about the guy's politics, but Mahr's shows stayed pretty clear of softball, and often times showed a very different side of the guests.
As for me, my Youtube chat-show rabbit-hole is Graham Norton. The panel format works brilliantly for him. Seeing 4 distinctly different people hanging out drinking and talking can be a real hoot. That's where you really get to see some of these guys' and gals' personalities.
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Completely agree El Barto. The wife and I DVR that show. It's very organic seeing those 4cstars together chatting. Graham even feels organic as well.
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Yeah, Graham Norton is excellent. The clip from years ago with Jon Cleese and Taylor Swift (when she was still pretty young) is hysterical, as you could tell she didn't know what to think of him and his dry British humor at first, but eventually came around.
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I'm not familiar with Norton; I should check that out.
Bart, of course, you're right about "shows of yore", but I only ever watched Letterman and Carson, and maybe it's because I was younger, or maybe it's because I think those two are funnier than all the existing night-show hosts since combined, I let it slide. Carson can do no wrong in my book.
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I'm not familiar with Norton; I should check that out.
Bart, of course, you're right about "shows of yore", but I only ever watched Letterman and Carson, and maybe it's because I was younger, or maybe it's because I think those two are funnier than all the existing night-show hosts since combined, I let it slide. Carson can do no wrong in my book.
Totally different thing, and not “hard hitting questions that forge deep conversations” but if you’re looking for something different and not predictable to the guests, you should check out Hot Ones on YouTube. Interviews while eating increasingly spicy wings. Amazing how people answer questions while in a lot of pain.
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I'm not familiar with Norton; I should check that out.
Bart, of course, you're right about "shows of yore", but I only ever watched Letterman and Carson, and maybe it's because I was younger, or maybe it's because I think those two are funnier than all the existing night-show hosts since combined, I let it slide. Carson can do no wrong in my book.
Totally different thing, and not “hard hitting questions that forge deep conversations” but if you’re looking for something different and not predictable to the guests, you should check out Hot Ones on YouTube. Interviews while eating increasingly spicy wings. Amazing how people answer questions while in a lot of pain.
Now that one I know; I saw the one with Noel Gallagher and it was EXCELLENT. He was trying so hard to be the "Noel" that we all know and love, and with each wing it got harder and harder. Haha.
it's not about the hard hitting questions; I don't care about that. It's about the structured pandering, the scripted-ness of it all that is meant to be passed off as "casual conversation amongst friends". As much as I like them, guys like Kimmel and Fallon have their name staked in being "good guys", that are both casual friends to the stars but could be - and would be, but for circumstances - YOUR best friend. Carson and Letterman, for better or worse, were NEVER your friends, and while Letterman was famously prickly to his guests, even Carson never presumed to be "friends" with his guest, with a few exceptions (the hotter the actress, the more likely the exception). Comedians and musicians famously EARNED their spot on the couch based on their performance. No one is "earning" anything on the current crop of kiss-asses late night hosts, and in fact it's just the opposite. It's so LCD. What little I watch of Colbert and Meyers (I despise both of them too deeply to recount here) is the same thing. I don't know if it's a by-product of the late-night wars of the 90's when there was a competition amongst shows for guests - Carson didn't "compete" for guests; you felt privileged to be there - but it's like watching someone buy a car from a used car salesman now.
I just don't remember Carson in particular being so fake. Maybe it's time to go back and find some of those old Carson VHS tapes.
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I'm not familiar with Norton; I should check that out.
Graham Norton will still toss up softballs trying to get to the story he's looking for, but the format makes that approach different. He'll have 4 or so completely different people all on at once, all with their drink of choice, and often times they kind of wind up interviewing each other. People tend to behave a little differently in that format. As much as I dislike the creepy little fuck, Tom Cruise is great on there because he's got that personality type that makes every person he interacts with seem like the most important person on the planet. He really engages with people. And the bit Kev mentioned is great. Cleese keeps taking shots at the girl until she finally pushes back. It was fascinating to me because she seems really slow on the uptake, but also kind of quick witted once she picks up on something. I couldn't figure out if she was clever or stupid, and in the end I think it's an interesting combination of both. (And speaking of quick witted, Cleese's dig at her cat was absolutely brilliant, even if it did go completely over her head.)
Watch some clips from pre-covid. Once they all spread out on their own chairs it lost some of its charm. They need to be huddled up in the same group.
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I'm not familiar with Norton; I should check that out.
Graham Norton will still toss up softballs trying to get to the story he's looking for, but the format makes that approach different. He'll have 4 or so completely different people all on at once, all with their drink of choice, and often times they kind of wind up interviewing each other. People tend to behave a little differently in that format. As much as I dislike the creepy little fuck, Tom Cruise is great on there because he's got that personality type that makes every person he interacts with seem like the most important person on the planet. He really engages with people. And the bit Kev mentioned is great. Cleese keeps taking shots at the girl until she finally pushes back. It was fascinating to me because she seems really slow on the uptake, but also kind of quick witted once she picks up on something. I couldn't figure out if she was clever or stupid, and in the end I think it's an interesting combination of both. (And speaking of quick witted, Cleese's dig at her cat was absolutely brilliant, even if it did go completely over her head.)
Watch some clips from pre-covid. Once they all spread out on their own chairs it lost some of its charm. They need to be huddled up in the same group.
ie, a dumb person pretending to be smart vs a smart person pretending to be dumb?
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The one with Cruise and Seth MacFarlane is excellent as most stories from Chris Pratt. I do love the British comedian Greg Davies talking about wearing his mothers underwear by accident. It's hilarious.
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I'm not familiar with Norton; I should check that out.
Graham Norton will still toss up softballs trying to get to the story he's looking for, but the format makes that approach different. He'll have 4 or so completely different people all on at once, all with their drink of choice, and often times they kind of wind up interviewing each other. People tend to behave a little differently in that format. As much as I dislike the creepy little fuck, Tom Cruise is great on there because he's got that personality type that makes every person he interacts with seem like the most important person on the planet. He really engages with people. And the bit Kev mentioned is great. Cleese keeps taking shots at the girl until she finally pushes back. It was fascinating to me because she seems really slow on the uptake, but also kind of quick witted once she picks up on something. I couldn't figure out if she was clever or stupid, and in the end I think it's an interesting combination of both. (And speaking of quick witted, Cleese's dig at her cat was absolutely brilliant, even if it did go completely over her head.)
Watch some clips from pre-covid. Once they all spread out on their own chairs it lost some of its charm. They need to be huddled up in the same group.
ie, a dumb person pretending to be smart vs a smart person pretending to be dumb?
Neither, really. It wasn't a pretense. At times she seemed to be kind of sharp when speaking to people, but was very slow to process what's going on around her. In fairness, John Cleese really did fluster her. I don't think "this guy's insulting me and my cat" was really what she was expecting. Here's a short clip from what Kev and I are referring to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UVRRZ-0xOY
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I'm not familiar with Norton; I should check that out.
Graham Norton will still toss up softballs trying to get to the story he's looking for, but the format makes that approach different. He'll have 4 or so completely different people all on at once, all with their drink of choice, and often times they kind of wind up interviewing each other. People tend to behave a little differently in that format. As much as I dislike the creepy little fuck, Tom Cruise is great on there because he's got that personality type that makes every person he interacts with seem like the most important person on the planet. He really engages with people. And the bit Kev mentioned is great. Cleese keeps taking shots at the girl until she finally pushes back. It was fascinating to me because she seems really slow on the uptake, but also kind of quick witted once she picks up on something. I couldn't figure out if she was clever or stupid, and in the end I think it's an interesting combination of both. (And speaking of quick witted, Cleese's dig at her cat was absolutely brilliant, even if it did go completely over her head.)
Watch some clips from pre-covid. Once they all spread out on their own chairs it lost some of its charm. They need to be huddled up in the same group.
ie, a dumb person pretending to be smart vs a smart person pretending to be dumb?
Neither, really. It wasn't a pretense. At times she seemed to be kind of sharp when speaking to people, but was very slow to process what's going on around her. In fairness, John Cleese really did fluster her. I don't think "this guy's insulting me and my cat" was really what she was expecting. Here's a short clip from what Kev and I are referring to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UVRRZ-0xOY
I only watched the snippet (but I will watch the whole thing because that was entertaining) but I think you got it spot on. She needed a minute to figure out what this was, but once she realized she could stand there and he would take as good as he gave, she was right on time.
See, that feels very different to me than, say, this (the clip that triggered the whole comment to begin with):
https://youtu.be/IFtOd7siwiI
I love Ringo, but there was nothing organic or "in the moment" with that clip. At least Taylor doing her slow assessment was non-scripted and her acclimating herself to the water. No one was going out of their way to make her feel "special" or "pandered to". Ringo's no idiot; he's probably top 10 most recognized figures in the world, and doesn't need Jimble Kimble lapping at his balls. That was a job to him with suitable payoff. Graham Norton might have been a job for them as well, but there was a sense of... not danger, that's too extreme, but none of those people should have expected hand-holding or ball-licking while they were there. Does that make sense?
And of course all this could be in my head. :)
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As always seems to be the case, Conan is nowhere to be found in the conversation (that I can see). After Carson and Letterman, Conan was right up there in my opinion. He was really the last late-night host that I watched. I do love Kimmel and Colbert, but what I need to see I can get on YouTube. Conan was the last one that got me to really watch his show with regularity.
I recently watched Letterman's sit down with Ryan Reynolds and it was fantastic. The man still has it.
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As always seems to be the case, Conan is nowhere to be found in the conversation (that I can see). After Carson and Letterman, Conan was right up there in my opinion. He was really the last late-night host that I watched. I do love Kimmel and Colbert, but what I need to see I can get on YouTube. Conan was the last one that got me to really watch his show with regularity.
I recently watched Letterman's sit down with Ryan Reynolds and it was fantastic. The man still has it.
Fallon is all about mindless, idiotic bits, Kimmel's a kiss ass, and Colbert's wit was much better when he used it on the Colbert Report. Conan would ask the softball questions as well, but I think, over time, he developed the skill and the patience to collaborate with his guests, and he especially knew with certain guests (Bill Burr being the best example) how to set them up to shine.
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People like Jimmy Fallon because they like the concept of a late night show but don't want to watch people being uncomfortable. I don't like Jimmy Fallon himself, but the team behind his show clearly try pretty hard to come up with things to pitch to celebrities that they'd be comfortable doing, and when you watch a compilation of "old school" moments like these (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uylGt3HL3g8), you understand why TV as a whole generally switched to the softball way, even if it produces way too many nights of people like Ringo coming over for two seconds to have the host promoting him in the most blatant way possible, and clearly over-rehearsed sketches that were advertised as spontaneous. I don't think anyone's entertainment career should come with a side of being in the hot seat or enduring public humiliation even if late night TV gets a little more boring as a result.
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People like Jimmy Fallon because they like the concept of a late night show but don't want to watch people being uncomfortable. I don't like Jimmy Fallon himself, but the team behind his show clearly try pretty hard to come up with things to pitch to celebrities that they'd be comfortable doing, and when you watch a compilation of "old school" moments like these (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uylGt3HL3g8), you understand why TV as a whole generally switched to the softball way, even if it produces way too many nights of people like Ringo coming over for two seconds to have the host promoting him in the most blatant way possible, and clearly over-rehearsed sketches that were advertised as spontaneous. I don't think anyone's entertainment career should come with a side of being in the hot seat or enduring public humiliation even if late night TV gets a little more boring as a result.
I agree with you, but there's a middle ground there somewhere. I don't know if you play sports, but an athlete doesn't always have to be FULL ON, win at all costs... but as soon as an athlete is trying NOT to lose, there always seems to be trouble. I don't think late night is just not putting anyone on the hottest, or avoiding public humiliation, I think they are trying actively to not offend ANYONE, anywhere, and it's ironically off-putting.
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People like Jimmy Fallon because they like the concept of a late night show but don't want to watch people being uncomfortable. I don't like Jimmy Fallon himself, but the team behind his show clearly try pretty hard to come up with things to pitch to celebrities that they'd be comfortable doing, and when you watch a compilation of "old school" moments like these (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uylGt3HL3g8), you understand why TV as a whole generally switched to the softball way, even if it produces way too many nights of people like Ringo coming over for two seconds to have the host promoting him in the most blatant way possible, and clearly over-rehearsed sketches that were advertised as spontaneous. I don't think anyone's entertainment career should come with a side of being in the hot seat or enduring public humiliation even if late night TV gets a little more boring as a result.
I agree with you, but there's a middle ground there somewhere. I don't know if you play sports, but an athlete doesn't always have to be FULL ON, win at all costs... but as soon as an athlete is trying NOT to lose, there always seems to be trouble. I don't think late night is just not putting anyone on the hottest, or avoiding public humiliation, I think they are trying actively to not offend ANYONE, anywhere, and it's ironically off-putting.
If you can, check out South Parks post Covid or whatever episodes in the future where Jimmy is a talk show host.
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I never watch these shows, for many reasons including ones that have been mentioned. I've watched clips of the Hot Ones interviews, but the only one I've watched all the way through was with The Undertaker. Definitely a structured question and answer interview and less conversational, but enjoyable, and at the end I felt I learned a lot about Mark I wouldn't have otherwise gotten from any other interview. He was shocked by one of the questions, giving the guy props for doing his research and asking him about something no one has ever brought up before.
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I never watch these shows, for many reasons including ones that have been mentioned. I've watched clips of the Hot Ones interviews, but the only one I've watched all the way through was with The Undertaker. Definitely a structured question and answer interview and less conversational, but enjoyable, and at the end I felt I learned a lot about Mark I wouldn't have otherwise gotten from any other interview. He was shocked by one of the questions, giving the guy props for doing his research and asking him about something no one has ever brought up before.
The first Gordon Ramsay Hot Ones is the best.
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Arriving at the Orlando airport at noon for a 2 1/2 hour flight and getting home at 10:00PM.
Oh, and thank you JetBlue, as if you didn't make my day bad enough....
(https://i.imgur.com/VfWgiz2.jpg)
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Arriving at the Orlando airport at noon for a 2 1/2 hour flight and getting home at 10:00PM.
Oh, and thank you JetBlue, as if you didn't make my day bad enough....
(https://i.imgur.com/VfWgiz2.jpg)
:rollin
Still waiting on that Winger song thread. Of course, I will not participate. Man, that song is so creepy too. It was creepy then, I sure hope he doesn't perform it now.
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Poetic justice Tim. :lol
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Arriving at the Orlando airport at noon for a 2 1/2 hour flight and getting home at 10:00PM.
Oh, and thank you JetBlue, as if you didn't make my day bad enough....
(https://i.imgur.com/VfWgiz2.jpg)
:metal :metal :metal
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:rollin
Still waiting on that Winger song thread. Of course, I will not participate. Man, that song is so creepy too. It was creepy then, I sure hope he doesn't perform it now.
"She's a magic mountain, she's a leather glove"
What's creepy about that? :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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Not sure if this is the place, but I thought I'd vent. So, I mentioned in the other thread that for some reason I keep getting Twitter notices from women (and as I said before, I have no doubt men do this too, but I'm only getting the ones from women) with a sultry picture, and a quippy caption that has nothing to do with the picture. I gave the example of a woman in a bikini holding up a fish and asking "What kind of fish is this?" when it's pretty clear that the intent is to showcase the breasts behind the fish (and the comments bear that out, because no one is offering up a species of piscis, other than one genius that thought it was the "Big mouthed, large breasted bass"). The newest one is a reasonably attractive woman covering herself in a pillow, with the caption "Pillow talk?".
The exasperation is the level of discourse in the comments. First, most people apparently can't read, because "Move the pillow baby, and I'll talk to you!" is repeated about 20 times. You'd think the first time it wasn't funny it would deter others, but apparently not. Then there's the 40, or 45 "Wish I was that pillow!" I've never been in that position before, but I can't imagine scrolling through, getting to the 35th "Wish I was that pillow" and thinking "Yeah, THIS is the guy!" Second, working on the assumption that people will continue to do things that are successful and weed out those things that don't work, apparently there's a REALLY low bar for pickup lines out there in the real world. Some of them are just downright crass. I suppose it's all in the eye of the beholder, and maybe some women like that, can't win if you don't play, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take, etc., but still. Does this actually work?
I get that the original picture is to generate followers, and the chances of a real reply is probably near that of winning the lottery. But are we so stupid we can't suss that out? What's the psychology here?
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I get that the original picture is to generate followers, and the chances of a real reply is probably near that of winning the lottery. But are we so stupid we can't suss that out? What's the psychology here?
So..clicking on it and reading the comments was....research? :lol
I don't understand how that works..if you're on Twitter, you can just get some random spam notice?
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I get that the original picture is to generate followers, and the chances of a real reply is probably near that of winning the lottery. But are we so stupid we can't suss that out? What's the psychology here?
So..clicking on it and reading the comments was....research? :lol
I don't understand how that works..if you're on Twitter, you can just get some random spam notice?
It's a message and most likely a bot. Never open whatever they link. That's for all social media Tim. Now respond back to me using smoke signals.
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(https://i.imgflip.com/6o80zv.jpg)
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:lol
Perfect.
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I get that the original picture is to generate followers, and the chances of a real reply is probably near that of winning the lottery. But are we so stupid we can't suss that out? What's the psychology here?
So..clicking on it and reading the comments was....research? :lol
I don't understand how that works..if you're on Twitter, you can just get some random spam notice?
No, I get emails each day (I think maybe even more than once a day) with "Highlights" from that day on Twitter. 50% of it is stuff from Gene (Simmons), Paul (Stanley), Mike, and a couple others. I get a fair amount of political stuff (from both sides) which gives me agita, and now, in the last week or so, I've been getting these sort of tweets.
And yes, the comments were research. The woman was attractive, but not really my cuppa cuppa, so there was no joy in Mudville with that "work".
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I imagine it's like the endless amount of adverts I get in the mail. Won't work on most people, but they really just need those few to go for it.
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I never watch these shows, for many reasons including ones that have been mentioned. I've watched clips of the Hot Ones interviews, but the only one I've watched all the way through was with The Undertaker. Definitely a structured question and answer interview and less conversational, but enjoyable, and at the end I felt I learned a lot about Mark I wouldn't have otherwise gotten from any other interview. He was shocked by one of the questions, giving the guy props for doing his research and asking him about something no one has ever brought up before.
The first Gordon Ramsay Hot Ones is the best.
Dude completely fell apart. Whereas Rachel Rae barely broke a sweat. :lol
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I don't think this belongs on the P/R board, but if a mod disagrees, my apologies.
There is an election coming up in November, and we're ALREADY seeing ads (both for and against) a ballot measure here in California. The proposition has something to do with legalizing online sports gambling, but that's not really the point.
There are a bunch of "vote yes" ads that focus on the alleged benefits. Those are fine. However, the ad I see/hear more frequently is the "vote no" ad. These ads starting out by telling me that this is "yet another ballot measure brought to you by SPECIAL INTERESTS."
Now...I'm 54 years old, so I've been around a while. However, I have NO FUCKING IDEA what "special interest" means. Are there interests that aren't special? What does it take to elevate an interest from...ummm..."ordinary" (?) to "special"?
The ads then tell me that I should vote no because the proposition is backed by...GASP...gambling concerns like Fan Duel and what not. Oh fucking no! Shocking that a gambling company would support something like this! The temerity!
The ads conclude with the usual "this ad brought to you by..." message. The ad isn't brought to me by the California Teachers Association or Gamblers Anonymous. No, these ads are brought to me by a couple of Indian tribes. Not just any tribes, but two tribes who operate major casinos here in Socal. Aren't these tribes ALSO "special interests"?
Now...I don't care one way or another about this ballot measure (I might after reading it when the election gets closer, but that's a couple months out still). What I find more than a tad exasperating is that the majority of voters will simply hear "special interests" and "gambling" and ignore or not grasp that a gambling related "special interest" is also on the "no" side of this thing.
Rant over.
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A rant that is right up my alley. I'm with you. It's basically preying on the uninformed; we've gotten to the point that ENTIRE STRATEGIES in politics are predicated on a requisite amount of ignorance and lack of informedness. ON BOTH SIDES, mind you. There's no one culprit here.
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I get that the original picture is to generate followers, and the chances of a real reply is probably near that of winning the lottery. But are we so stupid we can't suss that out? What's the psychology here?
On Twitter it is easy to change your security settings to only allow DMs from your friends group. This stops that kind of BS immediately and I could not more highly recommend doing that.
I get similar shit on IG (from men I think?) and I just block them immediately. This is how those Nigerian call centers prey on older folks....ever see those episodes of Dr. Phil where they have some older woman/man on who has given literally thousands of dollars to some gal/dude they've never met in person but who they are engaged to? ::) Then the detective determines the "fiance" is stationed in Nigeria and you have just given your entire retirement savings to a scam artist?
This is how cat fishing starts. Best way to handle it is to prevent it from even starting. That chick with the giant knockers is really just some 18 year old Nigerian dude with a fake photo. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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I get that the original picture is to generate followers, and the chances of a real reply is probably near that of winning the lottery. But are we so stupid we can't suss that out? What's the psychology here?
On Twitter it is easy to change your security settings to only allow DMs from your friends group. This stops that kind of BS immediately and I could not more highly recommend doing that.
I get similar shit on IG (from men I think?) and I just block them immediately. This is how those Nigerian call centers prey on older folks....ever see those episodes of Dr. Phil where they have some older woman/man on who has given literally thousands of dollars to some gal/dude they've never met in person but who they are engaged to? ::) Then the detective determines the "fiance" is stationed in Nigeria and you have just given your entire retirement savings to a scam artist?
This is how cat fishing starts. Best way to handle it is to prevent it from even starting. That chick with the giant knockers is really just some 18 year old Nigerian dude with a fake photo. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Haha, bubble not burst. That's not really what I find attractive, to be honest. The real point of the post wasn't really about the woman (though it sort of confirms many of my suspicions about social media), it was the men. Maybe I'm naive, maybe it was a small sample size, whatever, but I just expected better.
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I get that the original picture is to generate followers, and the chances of a real reply is probably near that of winning the lottery. But are we so stupid we can't suss that out? What's the psychology here?
On Twitter it is easy to change your security settings to only allow DMs from your friends group. This stops that kind of BS immediately and I could not more highly recommend doing that.
I get similar shit on IG (from men I think?) and I just block them immediately. This is how those Nigerian call centers prey on older folks....ever see those episodes of Dr. Phil where they have some older woman/man on who has given literally thousands of dollars to some gal/dude they've never met in person but who they are engaged to? ::) Then the detective determines the "fiance" is stationed in Nigeria and you have just given your entire retirement savings to a scam artist?
This is how cat fishing starts. Best way to handle it is to prevent it from even starting. That chick with the giant knockers is really just some 18 year old Nigerian dude with a fake photo. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Haha, bubble not burst. That's not really what I find attractive, to be honest. The real point of the post wasn't really about the woman (though it sort of confirms many of my suspicions about social media), it was the men. Maybe I'm naive, maybe it was a small sample size, whatever, but I just expected better.
You expected better from men on Twitter responding to a post with a photo of a woman with giant knockers? Really? :lol
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A rant that is right up my alley. I'm with you. It's basically preying on the uninformed; we've gotten to the point that ENTIRE STRATEGIES in politics are predicated on a requisite amount of ignorance and lack of informedness. ON BOTH SIDES, mind you. There's no one culprit here.
Nailed it! It makes me want to amend my response to the question about what I'd do if I wont he lottery. I'd take out ads that say, "so...that ad you just saw...did you catch that it was all bullshit? Rather than play into these folks' belief that you're stupid, how about actually educating yourself about what's on the ballot?"
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I get that the original picture is to generate followers, and the chances of a real reply is probably near that of winning the lottery. But are we so stupid we can't suss that out? What's the psychology here?
On Twitter it is easy to change your security settings to only allow DMs from your friends group. This stops that kind of BS immediately and I could not more highly recommend doing that.
I get similar shit on IG (from men I think?) and I just block them immediately. This is how those Nigerian call centers prey on older folks....ever see those episodes of Dr. Phil where they have some older woman/man on who has given literally thousands of dollars to some gal/dude they've never met in person but who they are engaged to? ::) Then the detective determines the "fiance" is stationed in Nigeria and you have just given your entire retirement savings to a scam artist?
This is how cat fishing starts. Best way to handle it is to prevent it from even starting. That chick with the giant knockers is really just some 18 year old Nigerian dude with a fake photo. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Haha, bubble not burst. That's not really what I find attractive, to be honest. The real point of the post wasn't really about the woman (though it sort of confirms many of my suspicions about social media), it was the men. Maybe I'm naive, maybe it was a small sample size, whatever, but I just expected better.
You expected better from men on Twitter responding to a post with a photo of a woman with giant knockers? Really? :lol
Well, I know it sounds ridiculous, but yeah, I kind of did. Some of the stuff we're talking about isn't about "men" and "women", it just seems to be on a much more basic level of humanity. I don't know; maybe I'm that out of the loop. Who knows? I'm old.
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A rant that is right up my alley. I'm with you. It's basically preying on the uninformed; we've gotten to the point that ENTIRE STRATEGIES in politics are predicated on a requisite amount of ignorance and lack of informedness. ON BOTH SIDES, mind you. There's no one culprit here.
Nailed it! It makes me want to amend my response to the question about what I'd do if I wont he lottery. I'd take out ads that say, "so...that ad you just saw...did you catch that it was all bullshit? Rather than play into these folks' belief that you're stupid, how about actually educating yourself about what's on the ballot?"
When something, even a deserving group or idea, is labelled as "special interest' it's meant to frame it in a way that makes the reader/listener believe that this group or idea IS NOT deserving of consideration or assistance. That they are special only to those pushing the narrative of them being special.
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I just got out of the bathroom at a wedding and there was 7 pieces of gum in the urinal. Someone has to take that out with their hands.
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Was summoned to my first Jury duty call today (I had to be excused, couldn't commit to a two week civil trial starting Monday) waited from 8 am all the way to 3:45 pm to get called. Process was really cool, first time being summoned and was hoping I could be on a jury but alas timing wasn't right. Apart from waiting all that time doing nothing but playing on my phone, the worst part of not knowing when or if you'll be needed was listening to the Hallmark movies playing loudly in the waiting hall. They're apparently doing a Christmas in July marathon and the day was filled with Christmas jingles, I did not need that slow torture along with the wait. Next time I'm definitely bringing my headphones.
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Was summoned to my first Jury duty call today (I had to be excused, couldn't commit to a two week civil trial starting Monday) waited from 8 am all the way to 3:45 pm to get called. Process was really cool, first time being summoned and was hoping I could be on a jury but alas timing wasn't right. Apart from waiting all that time doing nothing but playing on my phone, the worst part of not knowing when or if you'll be needed was listening to the Hallmark movies playing loudly in the waiting hall. They're apparently doing a Christmas in July marathon and the day was filled with Christmas jingles, I did not need that slow torture along with the wait. Next time I'm definitely bringing my headphones.
Waiting til 1545 to get called is terrible luck. Down here they've got a pretty good idea of how many potential jurors they'll need, and they update their estimates regularly. Typically a third will paneled in the first 90 minutes. A third will get sent home within the next hour. The remaining third will get cut loose gradually as the likelihood of needing more candidates decreases. I've only had to come back after lunch once, I think.
Last two times I didn't bother showing up. In truth I just plum forgot about it, but it's honestly starting to feel like a waste of my time.
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I just got out of the bathroom at a wedding and there was 7 pieces of gum in the urinal. Someone has to take that out with their hands.
I know a dude that ate (or tried to eat) a urinal cake on a bet. Pro tip: don't try it, it burned his lips (and no, it was not me).
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Was summoned to my first Jury duty call today (I had to be excused, couldn't commit to a two week civil trial starting Monday) waited from 8 am all the way to 3:45 pm to get called. Process was really cool, first time being summoned and was hoping I could be on a jury but alas timing wasn't right. Apart from waiting all that time doing nothing but playing on my phone, the worst part of not knowing when or if you'll be needed was listening to the Hallmark movies playing loudly in the waiting hall. They're apparently doing a Christmas in July marathon and the day was filled with Christmas jingles, I did not need that slow torture along with the wait. Next time I'm definitely bringing my headphones.
Waiting til 1545 to get called is terrible luck. Down here they've got a pretty good idea of how many potential jurors they'll need, and they update their estimates regularly. Typically a third will paneled in the first 90 minutes. A third will get sent home within the next hour. The remaining third will get cut loose gradually as the likelihood of needing more candidates decreases. I've only had to come back after lunch once, I think.
Last two times I didn't bother showing up. In truth I just plum forgot about it, but it's honestly starting to feel like a waste of my time.
I'm going in September. I actually enjoy it, but then again, I'm invested in the process in a way. I'll bring a book and I'll have my work phone, so I'll be able to work at least to some degree. I too hope for a trial, but it's hit or miss as to whether they'll empanel an attorney. I was absolutely STUNNED I got on my last jury; the lawyer - a very good one - for the defense must've ran out of challenges, because I'm the LAST guy he wanted on that jury. Then again, he did have two people that worked for him (an elderly woman that simply did not understand the concept of "reasonable doubt" and felt sorry for the four-time felon that was again facing charges of selling crack in weight and endangering a minor, as well as a younger woman that we found out later lived a couple houses away from the defendant in high school).
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The current price of chicken wings. How did wings go from a throwaway cut to being priced at "market price" on restaurant menus?
I went to a brewery last night and a dozen wings and fries was $29 before tip. What in the actual fuck?
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The current price of chicken wings. How did wings go from a throwaway cut to being priced at "market price" on restaurant menus?
I went to a brewery last night and a dozen wings and fries was $29 before tip. What in the actual fuck?
That's INSANE. Wednesday I was in the mood for wings, and I thought $18 for 10 wings was out of bounds. Goddamn.
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Man, I miss 10 cent wing nights.
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We had those in college on Monday nights for football. I remember when we were all getting our licenses, some 17-18 years ago, we'd go out to Hooters on Thursdays. All you could eat wings for I think $10. What a time that was.
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The current price of chicken wings. How did wings go from a throwaway cut to being priced at "market price" on restaurant menus?
I went to a brewery last night and a dozen wings and fries was $29 before tip. What in the actual fuck?
Was there anything special about those wings? That's insane.
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The current price of chicken wings. How did wings go from a throwaway cut to being priced at "market price" on restaurant menus?
I went to a brewery last night and a dozen wings and fries was $29 before tip. What in the actual fuck?
Was there anything special about those wings? That's insane.
Nothing special at all. Just your standard wing.
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The current price of chicken wings. How did wings go from a throwaway cut to being priced at "market price" on restaurant menus?
I went to a brewery last night and a dozen wings and fries was $29 before tip. What in the actual fuck?
But yet, my work place is always busy at nights with people ordering lots and lots of chicken wings (Bone-In and Boneless). Those poor chickens, and some of them don't even make it into the fryer or pull a Chicken Run and fly out of our sauce bowls. And also, we notice things with the supply such as mis-cuts, and I laugh and joke about some boxes we get or the amount of chicken in the bags, I say either "someone was being incompetent" or "uh-oh, they're running out of chicken."
I find it fascinating that either way, people will still pay for it if they desire it that much. What fascinates me about working in this industry is seeing how Human Desires, Cravings, and Addictions to food play out.
My co-worker laughs and wonders how people are spending this much money on wings when they could go to the store and buy the same amount for much cheaper and make their own wings.
Also, it's hilarious how people will use Doordash and spend twice the amount just to get Fries Doordashed to them.
I did a quick search on "Price of Chicken Wings" and found this Yahoo article.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/chicken-wing-prices-doubled-heres-162410182.html
That does not surprise me one bit. And also, it's related to what I talk about with Human Desires, expectations and reality.
It's not just the companies that need to treat the employees better, the customers also need to treat the worker better and not be all demanding of their food. Customers need to also understand stand what went on and how badly the Food Industry was affected by the lockdowns.
It's amazing how people come in about 30 min. From their estimated pick-up time and complain their order isn't ready yet. This is when we have all the fryers down, making the wings for an order of 100 wings, while the next orders are 30, 50, and possibly 75 wings before their order gets a chance to be cooked, and that takes about 20 min to cook in the fryer.
So for me, and based on my experience and observations in the food industry, it's an entire behavior change that needs to happen. What I find exasperating and What triggers my co-worker is not the job itself or the management, but the customers complaints about the smallest stuff we as employees do not have any control over.
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It's fucking wings.
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:lol
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It's fucking wings.
Precisely why I find it fascinating. But also, I understand there is more to the behaviors of customers. Things such as going home from work, stressed out and just wanting food, being stressed because a loved one just has a craving for wings. Or just having an overall shitty ass day.
But also, even though they're just wings, it's food, and people can have addictions to food, which brings about certain reactions when they do not get their satisfaction of that addictive craving. To them, it's not just fucking wings. We have customers who's names I see almost everyday.
And this not only happens at my work place. There's lots of videos that show how entitled customers treat employees and demand things. A great example is the McDonald's Szechuan Sauce fiasco, which was a reaction to a cartoon.
If a customer complained to me about the wing prices, I would say "Yeah, what did you expect? Now, would you like to place an order?"
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I worked way longer than I should have in the food service industry, and let me tell you, I lost my faith in humanity after my experiences.
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I worked way longer than I should have in the food service industry, and let me tell you, I lost my faith in humanity after my experiences.
Sounds like my Co-worker. :lol :lol
I haven't lost Faith in Humanity from working here, so far, but I do find it quite interesting. It's interesting to me in regards to how humans function in this society.
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My 10 year old nephew does not like cheese. There's something wrong with that boy. Lol
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So he likes cheese?
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So he likes cheese?
Apparently, there's something wrong with him. No kid should like cheese. :D
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So he likes cheese?
Fixed. Lol
So he likes cheese?
Apparently, there's something wrong with him. No kid should like cheese. :D
He only ears French fries. Won't eat potatoes any other way.
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He only ears French fries.
(https://i.etsystatic.com/10253266/r/il/f2f162/793559711/il_570xN.793559711_e7ay.jpg)
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Eats. Dammit. Kid likes kimchi, sushi ect. He got cheese on his hamburger and my brother scrapped most of it off. The way he looked at the burger and the sour puss he had chewing it was hilarious.
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That's because you simply can't just scrape it off. If I get a sandwich and they screw up and there's onions, my wife is like, well just take them out of scrape them off. Nope. It's ruined.
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He eats pizza. I just think it's a kid phase thing. I didn't eat onions when I was young. I love it now.
You're missing the point. He eats cheese when he doesn't know it's in his food.
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That's because you simply can't just scrape it off. If I get a sandwich and they screw up and there's onions, my wife is like, well just take them out of scrape them off. Nope. It's ruined.
Preach!
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At least I'm not the only one failing Adami. Thank you. Lol
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I'd rather not eat than scrape the onions off something and then eat it. I think it stems from my childhood when I accidently bit into an onion ring that made its way into my curly fries... I've never recovered. I was only eight or so, but never forgot.
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I'd rather not eat than scrape the onions off something and then eat it. I think it stems from my childhood when I accidently bit into an onion ring that made its way into my curly fries... I've never recovered. I was only eight or so, but never forgot.
You just don't move on from something like that.
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At least I'm not the only one failing Adami. Thank you. Lol
Solidarity!
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At least I'm not the only one failing Adami. Thank you. Lol
Solidarity!
Chocolate chip cookies with cherries forever!
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You'd ruin a perfectly good chocolate chip cookie with cherries??
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You'd ruin a perfectly good chocolate chip cookie with cherries??
You mean enhance? You know it!
I was originally going to make brownies but Jackie objected.
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The only thing that can enhance chocolate chip cookies is cream cheese.
runs for cover
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The only thing that enhances a CC cookie is to dip in more chocolate.
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Both of those things are awesome.
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Exactly Adami.
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Those cookies were top shelf. They even cut thru my hangover. I should've taken the other package. :lol
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Those cookies were top shelf. They even cut thru my hangover. I should've taken the other package. :lol
Giggity.
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Hey hey hey, I’m an engaged man. My package is spoken for.
Unless you’re Stadler.
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From 1st hand, I'd say you are a lucky man. Keep sharpening though culinary baking skills.
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Adami, any chance I can get that cookie recipe?
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Adami, any chance I can get that cookie recipe?
Sure!
Step 1. Invite adami over to bring cookies
Done.
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Adami does need to get the Tupperware back.
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My 10 year old nephew does not like cheese. There's something wrong with that boy. Lol
How does he feel about non-power metal?
Chocolate chip cookies with cherries forever!
Eeewww! Chocolate and fruit belong nowhere near each other.
The only thing that can enhance chocolate chip cookies is cream cheese.
runs for cover
I doubt I'd do it, but it makes more sense than cherries.
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No joke, the cherries just accented the chocolate chip cookie.
For music. Kid likes Bon Jovi and Imagine Dragons. My brother and sus in law are taking him to see Imagine Dragons Saturday at Fenway Park.
He likes his Anthem music.
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Chocolate chip cookies with cherries forever!
Eeewww! Chocolate and fruit belong nowhere near each other.
I don't think I've ever seen a more wrong statement here.
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Chocolate chip cookies with cherries forever!
Eeewww! Chocolate and fruit belong nowhere near each other.
I don't think I've ever seen a more wrong statement here.
I will say that I do like me some chocolate jimmies on my orange sherbet.
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Chocolate chip cookies with cherries forever!
Eeewww! Chocolate and fruit belong nowhere near each other.
I don't think I've ever seen a more wrong statement here.
I invite you to visit the Rush thread and check out all the comments about how "great" Power Windows is. :biggrin:
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:lol
I'm not a big fan of cherries but it was dynamite.
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Orange and chocolate is a divine flavour combination.
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Good red wine and chocolate is about as perfect a pairing as there is. Also, raspberry and chocolate, chocolate covered strawberry, chocolate orange rind...
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Orange and chocolate is a divine flavour combination.
Please tell me you've had these.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Terrys-Chocolate-Orange.jpg/1200px-Terrys-Chocolate-Orange.jpg)
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:heart
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That's because you simply can't just scrape it off. If I get a sandwich and they screw up and there's onions, my wife is like, well just take them out of scrape them off. Nope. It's ruined.
Dammit, that's my step son. He only eats burgers plain, meat and cheese. It came the other night with lettuce, tomato and sliced onions, and you'd think the chef pissed on his foot he was so upset. He ate it, but after every bite he looked at me and sort of shook his head like we were torturing him.
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Orange and chocolate is a divine flavour combination.
Word
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Adami, any chance I can get that cookie recipe?
Sure!
Step 1. Invite adami over to bring cookies
Done.
You're invited.
Eeewww! Chocolate and fruit belong nowhere near each other.
Of course they do.
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That's because you simply can't just scrape it off. If I get a sandwich and they screw up and there's onions, my wife is like, well just take them out of scrape them off. Nope. It's ruined.
Dammit, that's my step son. He only eats burgers plain, meat and cheese. It came the other night with lettuce, tomato and sliced onions, and you'd think the chef pissed on his foot he was so upset. He ate it, but after every bite he looked at me and sort of shook his head like we were torturing him.
That was my nephew's face. Looked like we were feeding him Klingon Gagh.
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That's because you simply can't just scrape it off. If I get a sandwich and they screw up and there's onions, my wife is like, well just take them out of scrape them off. Nope. It's ruined.
Dammit, that's my step son. He only eats burgers plain, meat and cheese. It came the other night with lettuce, tomato and sliced onions, and you'd think the chef pissed on his foot he was so upset. He ate it, but after every bite he looked at me and sort of shook his head like we were torturing him.
That was my nephew's face. Looked like we were feeding him Klingon Gagh.
There was a time when I was a kid that I would sit and pick the sesame seeds off the bun if I got a burger that had them. There was no convincing me that they were completely flavorless (which, of course, begs the question why they're there).
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That's because you simply can't just scrape it off. If I get a sandwich and they screw up and there's onions, my wife is like, well just take them out of scrape them off. Nope. It's ruined.
Dammit, that's my step son. He only eats burgers plain, meat and cheese. It came the other night with lettuce, tomato and sliced onions, and you'd think the chef pissed on his foot he was so upset. He ate it, but after every bite he looked at me and sort of shook his head like we were torturing him.
That was my nephew's face. Looked like we were feeding him Klingon Gagh.
There was a time when I was a kid that I would sit and pick the sesame seeds off the bun if I got a burger that had them. There was no convincing me that they were completely flavorless (which, of course, begs the question why they're there).
You can absolutely taste them. The same goes for poppy seeds too. After Nick's wedding, we went to Philly for the day and I got a cheesesteak sandwich (and a parking ticket while waiting for it). I was so pissed when I opened it up and found seeded bread. I sat there, a fully grown adult, picking those fuckers off one at a time if necessary.
I also die a little inside if I order a burger with just meat and cheese and it comes out with the fixings on it.
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That's because you simply can't just scrape it off. If I get a sandwich and they screw up and there's onions, my wife is like, well just take them out of scrape them off. Nope. It's ruined.
Dammit, that's my step son. He only eats burgers plain, meat and cheese. It came the other night with lettuce, tomato and sliced onions, and you'd think the chef pissed on his foot he was so upset. He ate it, but after every bite he looked at me and sort of shook his head like we were torturing him.
That was my nephew's face. Looked like we were feeding him Klingon Gagh.
There was a time when I was a kid that I would sit and pick the sesame seeds off the bun if I got a burger that had them. There was no convincing me that they were completely flavorless (which, of course, begs the question why they're there).
You can absolutely taste them. The same goes for poppy seeds too. After Nick's wedding, we went to Philly for the day and I got a cheesesteak sandwich (and a parking ticket while waiting for it). I was so pissed when I opened it up and found seeded bread. I sat there, a fully grown adult, picking those fuckers off one at a time if necessary.
I also die a little inside if I order a burger with just meat and cheese and it comes out with the fixings on it.
You can? I've never been able to. As far as gack on burgers, most of it can be removed. Pickles leave a taste that I'm not fond of but can live with. Mustard is the killer. I will gag instantly. I once went to McDonald's and ordered a Quarter Pounder. I inspected it but mistook the mustard for cheese. I had barely gotten my teeth through it when....
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That's because you simply can't just scrape it off. If I get a sandwich and they screw up and there's onions, my wife is like, well just take them out of scrape them off. Nope. It's ruined.
Dammit, that's my step son. He only eats burgers plain, meat and cheese. It came the other night with lettuce, tomato and sliced onions, and you'd think the chef pissed on his foot he was so upset. He ate it, but after every bite he looked at me and sort of shook his head like we were torturing him.
That was my nephew's face. Looked like we were feeding him Klingon Gagh.
There was a time when I was a kid that I would sit and pick the sesame seeds off the bun if I got a burger that had them. There was no convincing me that they were completely flavorless (which, of course, begs the question why they're there).
You can absolutely taste them. The same goes for poppy seeds too. After Nick's wedding, we went to Philly for the day and I got a cheesesteak sandwich (and a parking ticket while waiting for it). I was so pissed when I opened it up and found seeded bread. I sat there, a fully grown adult, picking those fuckers off one at a time if necessary.
I also die a little inside if I order a burger with just meat and cheese and it comes out with the fixings on it.
You can? I've never been able to. As far as gack on burgers, most of it can be removed. Pickles leave a taste that I'm not fond of but can live with. Mustard is the killer. I will gag instantly. I once went to McDonald's and ordered a Quarter Pounder. I inspected it but mistook the mustard for cheese. I had barely gotten my teeth through it when....
Tomatoes leave a lingering taste just like the pickles do, and I won't even use mustard as a binder when prepping long-cook BBQ :lol. I can definitely taste the seeds. I know it sounds mental, but I swear I can. I have a wicked sensitive pallet, and no lie, I can smell salt. The lab coats will tell you it has no aroma, but I think they're compromised by Big Seasoning.
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Salt definitely has a smell.
I will use a little bit of mustard powder in dry rub, but would NEVER use the actual condiment. I've bitten into a sesame seed by itself, and there is a bit of a taste, so I guess it makes sense that you can taste them on a burger, but for me it kinda blends into the rest of it. Lettuce and tomato do have a lingering flavor (lettuce smells and tastes like dirt), but they're livable and less obnoxious than pickles.
You might find this interesting: https://www.cracked.com/blog/the-picky-eater-at-thanksgiving-might-have-disorder
Cracked obviously isn't a bastion of quality journalism, but this article was the first time I didn't feel like a complete food freak.
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Sodium Chloride has essentially no vapour or sublimation pressure below 800 K , and being ionic would be extremely unlikely to liberate free dimers even if it did evaporate, so you are definitely not smelling salt. More likely it's the trace molecules like algae remnants or the anti-caking agents they add to it.
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WTF?? You're at a game!!!
(https://i.imgur.com/eJEZegZ.jpg)
Even the guy on the left not on his phone is holding it.
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It's crazy how much we live our lives through these things.
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I'm doing it now.
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I'm doing it now.
I will be later when I move from my desktop PC on DTF at home to my phone at work.....on DTF.
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Good red wine and chocolate is about as perfect a pairing as there is. Also, raspberry and chocolate, chocolate covered strawberry, chocolate orange rind...
THIS
Also, my family thought I was crazy when I put my chocolate protein powder in some orange juice. I thought I was the only one. It is the best. One of my early childhood memories is the first time I had a dark chocolate covered orange stick. I almost always got some for Christmas.
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WTF?? You're at a game!!!
Well it is baseball, can't blame them for looking for other entertainment :biggrin:
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WTF?? You're at a game!!!
The picture is damning. HOWEVER, I'll admit that I have my phone out pretty regularly and will look at it between pitches. I'll do the same during stoppages at hockey games and (although I go to football games very infrequently) between plays at football games.
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My entry in the "tad exasperating" thread for today is this bit of social media speak:
"I was today years old when...."
Where the fuck did this come from? Can't just say, "I learned today that..." or "I never knew until today that..."?
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Sodium Chloride has essentially no vapour or sublimation pressure below 800 K , and being ionic would be extremely unlikely to liberate free dimers even if it did evaporate, so you are definitely not smelling salt. More likely it's the trace molecules like algae remnants or the anti-caking agents they add to it.
Now I'm starting to gag...
There is a thing, though, about people with very sensitive taste receptors. I don't think that's me, and I don't think that's the case with EVERY picky eater, but it does explain a lot.
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Sodium Chloride has essentially no vapour or sublimation pressure below 800 K , and being ionic would be extremely unlikely to liberate free dimers even if it did evaporate, so you are definitely not smelling salt. More likely it's the trace molecules like algae remnants or the anti-caking agents they add to it.
Now I'm starting to gag...
I mean most salt is just dried out sea or lake water, so some remnants of live stuff will sneak in. Does mean though you might have more luck if you try a different brand where the trace stuff will be different.
And yeah, food sensitivity is an interesting one. For example for 25% of people they have a gene that makes cilantro taste like soap. Just a roll of the dice as to whether it's a nice refreshing herb or the devil's parsley.
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And yeah, food sensitivity is an interesting one. For example for 25% of people they have a gene that makes cilantro taste like soap. Just a roll of the dice as to whether it's a nice refreshing herb or the devil's parsley.
My x had that gene, so weird.
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Good red wine and chocolate is about as perfect a pairing as there is. Also, raspberry and chocolate, chocolate covered strawberry, chocolate orange rind...
THIS
Also, my family thought I was crazy when I put my chocolate protein powder in some orange juice. I thought I was the only one. It is the best. One of my early childhood memories is the first time I had a dark chocolate covered orange stick. I almost always got some for Christmas.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/8v6Z3YyULB5Q0Skbac/giphy.gif)
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I love hot english muffins with peanut butter dipped in orange juice.
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I love hot english muffins with peanut butter dipped in orange juice.
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Good red wine and chocolate is about as perfect a pairing as there is. Also, raspberry and chocolate, chocolate covered strawberry, chocolate orange rind...
THIS
Also, my family thought I was crazy when I put my chocolate protein powder in some orange juice. I thought I was the only one. It is the best. One of my early childhood memories is the first time I had a dark chocolate covered orange stick. I almost always got some for Christmas.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/8v6Z3YyULB5Q0Skbac/giphy.gif)
LoL - Don't knock it til you try it. 1 cup low sugar OJ, 1 scoop chocolate protein powder, ice then Nutribullet that shit. Sometimes if I want a creamier drink, I will add some plain greek yogurt. If I'm feeling fancy - a shot of whip cream on top with some chocolate sprinkles. DELISH
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I love hot english muffins with peanut butter dipped in orange juice.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/8v6Z3YyULB5Q0Skbac/giphy.gif)
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Good red wine and chocolate is about as perfect a pairing as there is. Also, raspberry and chocolate, chocolate covered strawberry, chocolate orange rind...
THIS
Also, my family thought I was crazy when I put my chocolate protein powder in some orange juice. I thought I was the only one. It is the best. One of my early childhood memories is the first time I had a dark chocolate covered orange stick. I almost always got some for Christmas.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/8v6Z3YyULB5Q0Skbac/giphy.gif)
LoL - Don't knock it til you try it. 1 cup low sugar OJ, 1 scoop chocolate protein powder, ice then Nutribullet that shit. Sometimes if I want a creamier drink, I will add some plain greek yogurt. If I'm feeling fancy - a shot of whip cream on top with some chocolate sprinkles. DELISH
Im not sure I have the nads to try that. :lol
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I love hot english muffins with peanut butter dipped in orange juice.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/8v6Z3YyULB5Q0Skbac/giphy.gif)
That's a great gif!
Day off tomorrow! Pics in the morning!!!
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Yeah I love that one.
Look forward to some pictures of this disgusting creation.
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I had a friend who lives to mix OJ and cola. I was sceptical, but on trying it, it was actually pretty good!
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Orange and chocolate is a divine flavour combination.
Word
Finally, common ground! :D
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Orange and chocolate is a divine flavour combination.
Please tell me you've had these.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Terrys-Chocolate-Orange.jpg/1200px-Terrys-Chocolate-Orange.jpg)
Every year for Christmas! They sell them in Sweden too, but they are like $10 due to being an import product.
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Look forward to some pictures of this disgusting creation.
(https://i.imgur.com/3MB52me.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ABDR5dv.jpg)
Sooogood! ;D
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Hey Joe, what's your name?
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Tim, that looks better than I thought it would.
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It's literally something that I've been eating since I was a kid. There's something about it that works.
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I'd enjoy that. Peanut butter on english muffins are one of my favorite breakfasts. I'd probably forgo the juice, but there is nothing wrong with enjoying some OJ.
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I'd enjoy that. Peanut butter on english muffins are one of my favorite breakfasts. I'd probably forgo the juice, but there is nothing wrong with enjoying some OJ.
It's rare that we have OJ in the house because I really shouldn't be drinking it, but sometimes my afternoon snack is an english muffin with PB and a cold glass of milk. Although I won't likely dip it.
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Tim, that looks better than just as awful as I thought it would.
ftfm
It's literally something that I've been eating since I was a kid. There's something about it that works.
I can get with that. My friend and I once put Fritos on vanilla ice cream, and I remember it being wonderful (although not such that I've ever done it again). I still dip my fries in my Wendy's Frosty, though.
I'd enjoy that. Peanut butter on english muffins are one of my favorite breakfasts. I'd probably forgo the juice, but there is nothing wrong with enjoying some OJ.
My wife LOVES English Muffins with PB. The daughter is pretty much the only person in the house who drinks OJ, so we don't have it around much. I'm fine with it on occasion.
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What kind of muffin is that, and do you not toast them?
The picture of it dipped in OJ did not inspire me.
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What kind of muffin is that, and do you not toast them?
(https://images.heb.com/is/image/HEBGrocery/000398531)
I did toast it, but when I toast something, I don't like it crunchy. I like it warm with a light crust.
The picture of it dipped in OJ did not inspire me.
:lol
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Fair enough. I like them crunchy but there is a point if you toast too, it ruins it.
It did not inspire me however when I go to the supermarket on the weekend, I'm sure I will stand at the juice section and contemplate for a bit.......so you never know.
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I like my bitches crunchy too.
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I like my bitches crunchy too.
I love older women too, but not quite that old.
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I like my bitches crunchy too.
I love older women too, but not quite that old.
Yeah, but it's Kingshmegland we're talking about. He's shopping in a whole 'nuther market.
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My wife is older. Don't let her know I admitted this. Lol
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My wife is older. Don't let her know I admitted this. Lol
My wife is older than your wife. :lol
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My wife is older. Don't let her know I admitted this. Lol
My wife is older than your wife. :lol
I remember you telling me but I don't remember how old. Text me.
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WTF?! :rollin
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Wife is 1 year, 4 months older but I act waaaay older.
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Wife is 1 year, 4 months older but I act waaaay older.
According to you or her? Haha.
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Both. Lol
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:lol
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Wife is 1 year, 4 months older but I act waaaay older.
Is this one of your typos? :) :) :) :) :)
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Nope. Lol
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Fair enough. I like them crunchy but there is a point if you toast too, it ruins it.
Every time our toaster/toaster oven craps out and we get a new one, we have to learn where the "magic" setting is for English muffins. Limp English muffins are no bueno.
By the way, for a while about 20 years ago, someone introduced a product called Australian toaster biscuits. Very similar to an English muffin. I don't think I've seen them in a long time.
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The trick to english muffins is to toast them with a blow torch, not a toaster oven.
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Fair enough. I like them crunchy but there is a point if you toast too, it ruins it.
Every time our toaster/toaster oven craps out and we get a new one, we have to learn where the "magic" setting is for English muffins. Limp English muffins are no bueno.
By the way, for a while about 20 years ago, someone introduced a product called Australian toaster biscuits. Very similar to an English muffin. I don't think I've seen them in a long time.
I've never heard of them. :lol
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Fair enough. I like them crunchy but there is a point if you toast too, it ruins it.
Every time our toaster/toaster oven craps out and we get a new one, we have to learn where the "magic" setting is for English muffins. Limp English muffins are no bueno.
By the way, for a while about 20 years ago, someone introduced a product called Australian toaster biscuits. Very similar to an English muffin. I don't think I've seen them in a long time.
I've never heard of them. :lol
I guess all you gotta do is slap a koala on the label and you're golden! :lol
(https://www.innit.com/public/products/images/00073130015800-2bVVgy8TsROAomr-en-US-0_s500.jpg)
And apparently there was a nasty little advertising campaign: https://dlisted.com/2015/11/17/hot-slut-of-the-day-816/
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Ah, late 80's early 90's, I wouldn't think I'm too young for them, but they still don't ring a bell, that's crazy haha. Always known as English Muffins to me!
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Australian toaster biscuits! :metal :metal :metal
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Sure! :metal
I'll have to ask the folks or some people at work. I'm intrigued. :lol
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I haven't had or seen Australian toaster biscuits in a LONG time. However, my recollection is that they were softer than a Thomas' English muffin, and they were almost impossible to get the crunchy surface, which I like, but which Tim said he didn't care for. However, the ATBs were rather similar to most other store bought English muffins.
I just read more than I care to about the differences (including crumpets). Wikipedia tells us (not so helpfully) that "English muffins are sometimes referred to simply as muffins in the United Kingdom" (kinda like the joke that, in China, Chinese food is simply referred to as "food"), while "[t]he U.S.-style muffins (a sweet quickbread) are sometimes referred to as American muffins. . . ."
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My head is spinning like a top right now!
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I think I may have posted this before... when someone hosts a dinner/party, and has no non-alcoholic beverage options. I feel like every time I go to someone's house, it goes like:
"Would you like something to drink?"
"Why yes, I am parched, what do you have?"
"We have 18 different kinds of beer, 9 different kinds of wine, and since seltzer is all the rage now for some reason, 34 different types of hard seltzer."
"Um... do you have anything... non-alcoholic?"
"Sure, you can get some water from the faucet."
"...refreshing..."
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I think I may have posted this before... when someone hosts a dinner/party, and has no non-alcoholic beverage options. I feel like every time I go to someone's house, it goes like:
"Would you like something to drink?"
"Why yes, I am parched, what do you have?"
"We have 18 different kinds of beer, 9 different kinds of wine, and since seltzer is all the rage now for some reason, 34 different types of hard seltzer."
"Um... do you have anything... non-alcoholic?"
"Sure, you can get some water from the faucet."
"...refreshing..."
Preach!
I don’t drink and I don’t like carbonated drinks. People just get annoyed with me.
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I get that people might not have always have soda or juice in their house, but if you are hosting dinner you probably went to the store to buy food. Would if break your bank to pick up a 2L of Pepsi?
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I get that people might not have always have soda or juice in their house, but if you are hosting dinner you probably went to the store to buy food. Would if break your bank to pick up a 2L of Pepsi?
You do not have people over your house for a party, and not have bottled water.
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I think I may have posted this before... when someone hosts a dinner/party, and has no non-alcoholic beverage options. I feel like every time I go to someone's house, it goes like:
"Would you like something to drink?"
"Why yes, I am parched, what do you have?"
"We have 18 different kinds of beer, 9 different kinds of wine, and since seltzer is all the rage now for some reason, 34 different types of hard seltzer."
"Um... do you have anything... non-alcoholic?"
"Sure, you can get some water from the faucet."
"...refreshing..."
Preach!
I don’t drink and I don’t like carbonated drinks. People just get annoyed with me.
What does this - I don’t drink and I don’t like carbonated drinks. - have to do with this - People just get annoyed with me.? Is there a sentence missing there?
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA, I'm funny. :)
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Wasn't quite sure where to put this....
There's been a commercial running for a while for the car repair franchise Meineke. For anyone who hasn't seen it, the commercial features a guy speaking English with a mock German accent and talking about how he only trusts Meineke with "meine Key" (i.e., my key, although "meinem Schlüssel" would be the actual German in that case).
The commercial is kinda stupid, but it doesn't otherwise bother me (I'm 1/4 Danish, 1/4 Irish and 3/16 German). However, I can't shake the feeling that, if the guy in the commercial were Chinese or Middle Eastern or Mexican, it would NEVER have made it on the air.
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What? You don't like German Eyeballs and driving a car across the Atlantic? :lol
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A couple of things have been bugging me lately.
Is it possible to make a call, go out to eat, or even go to the fucking doctors and not be asked to fill out a survey?? Companies are out of control with their surveys. I know when I was a manager, it's better to lose sales and have good survey scores than increase sales and have poor survey results. It's fucked.
Also, why is my high school and college still mailing me and asking for money? I paid my tuition. GTFO! It doesn't seem to be keeping today's tuition in check does it?
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A couple of things have been bugging me lately.
Is it possible to make a call, go out to eat, or even go to the fucking doctors and not be asked to fill out a survey?? Companies are out of control with their surveys. I know when I was a manager, it's better to lose sales and have good survey scores than increase sales and have poor survey results. It's fucked.
Also, why is my high school and college still mailing me and asking for money? I paid my tuition. GTFO! It doesn't seem to be keeping today's tuition in check does it?
I order drinks directly from Coke. I mean, Coke, one of if not the biggest company in the world. Every fucking time I speak to someone (for like the last couple of years at least mind you) and place an order at the end of the call, every rep tells me, "thanks for your call and if you could stay on the line there is a quick survey about your experience today." Fucking no! I just hang up. I'm ordering from you you fuckers, isn't that enough. And I'm sure wasting another 5 minutes of my fucking day doing your shitty survey isn't going to make a cracker of a difference to the amount of money you assholes rake in every day. I'm giving the companies money to you, so fuck off with your survey.
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A couple of things have been bugging me lately.
Is it possible to make a call, go out to eat, or even go to the fucking doctors and not be asked to fill out a survey?? Companies are out of control with their surveys. I know when I was a manager, it's better to lose sales and have good survey scores than increase sales and have poor survey results. It's fucked.
Also, why is my high school and college still mailing me and asking for money? I paid my tuition. GTFO! It doesn't seem to be keeping today's tuition in check does it?
I order drinks directly from Coke. I mean, Coke, one of if not the biggest company in the world. Every fucking time I speak to someone (for like the last couple of years at least mind you) and place an order at the end of the call, every rep tells me, "thanks for your call and if you could stay on the line there is a quick survey about your experience today." Fucking no! I just hang up. I'm ordering from you you fuckers, isn't that enough. And I'm sure wasting another 5 minutes of my fucking day doing your shitty survey isn't going to make a cracker of a difference to the amount of money you assholes rake in every day. I'm giving the companies money to you, so fuck off with your survey.
(https://c.tenor.com/nRGEAAQstUEAAAAM/robert-redford-nod.gif)
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A couple of things have been bugging me lately.
Is it possible to make a call, go out to eat, or even go to the fucking doctors and not be asked to fill out a survey?? Companies are out of control with their surveys. I know when I was a manager, it's better to lose sales and have good survey scores than increase sales and have poor survey results. It's fucked.
Also, why is my high school and college still mailing me and asking for money? I paid my tuition. GTFO! It doesn't seem to be keeping today's tuition in check does it?
I order drinks directly from Coke. I mean, Coke, one of if not the biggest company in the world. Every fucking time I speak to someone (for like the last couple of years at least mind you) and place an order at the end of the call, every rep tells me, "thanks for your call and if you could stay on the line there is a quick survey about your experience today." Fucking no! I just hang up. I'm ordering from you you fuckers, isn't that enough. And I'm sure wasting another 5 minutes of my fucking day doing your shitty survey isn't going to make a cracker of a difference to the amount of money you assholes rake in every day. I'm giving the companies money to you, so fuck off with your survey.
(https://c.tenor.com/nRGEAAQstUEAAAAM/robert-redford-nod.gif)
:metal It's so funny you're post just got that out of me so easily! I was like 'yes motherfucker' while reading yours and started typing :lol
I just realised I'll have to place an order from these assholes again today. :lol
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The limbo of waiting for a car to be done from the shop :P
Thank god though they had free lyft drop off back at my place to wait. Sitting in the waiting room for hours is a hell in its own right.
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The limbo of waiting for a car to be done from the shop :P
Thank god though they had free lyft drop off back at my place to wait. Sitting in the waiting room for hours is a hell in its own right.
Ha, in that right now.
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So...
We are in the middle of the application process for services through our state's Department of Developmental Services (DDS) for my 21 y/o. The DDS rep made an appointment with my wife to have a meeting today at 10:00, and for my son to be present. We get there and on the door, it says we have to mask up to go in. OK, this already gets me eyerolling.
We go in and no one has any idea what we are talking about regarding a meeting or who we are seeing.
Finally, a woman overhears the commotion and asks us to sit down. She comes back and states she's a colleague of the woman we're supposed to meet, but that she is not there because it's a Facetime call. WUT?
The lady says, since the pandemic, that's how they do things now. WTF?? Are we still in the pandemic?
I was fucking pissed. We got my son ready for this..cleaned up, nice shirt, even got him a fucking haircut yesterday.
Anyway, while we're sitting there the lady calls my wife, and my wife says we have to go out to the car to do the facetime call. I turn to the woman standing there and I was like, can't we just use one of these rooms for the call? Um nope, because they're having a job fair and they're needed for interviews. All I saw was a bunch of recruiters picking their ass, not a job candidate in sight, and rooms not being used.
So, on our way to bring my wife to work, she and my son sat in the backseat and did the facetime call.
At one point I hear the lady say, "Oh, I'm sorry for the noise, my husband just went by with the lawn mower."
You gotta be fucking kidding me!!
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Sounds par for the course for a government program
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The lady could've very well said it was a call and not a meeting. My wife has been work stressed and could've missed it.
But I rail against the fact that we can't meet in person.
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Regarding the "is the pandemic over?" though, my job seemed to officially announce it is from their perspective today. We all need to make it known if we are returning to the office by end of week. And judging by the amount of cars on the road since Labor Day, it seems most people are back to the office now. Also, we no longer have to wear a mask at work. It seems fairly over from my perspective although I need to show proof of vaccination for the Porcupine Tree show on Friday (as well as Sabaton/Epica next month).
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The lady could've very well said it was a call and not a meeting. My wife has been work stressed and could've missed it.
But I rail against the fact that we can't meet in person.
Doing consultations this way still is a fucking pisstake and simply a cop out for people to stay the fuck at home and piss around IMO. I have no doubt the consultation would have been more beneficial and helpful for your lad I'd it were in person. People milk the fucking life out of this pandemic and its disgraceful in my book.
We have simply become an every man for themselves society these days.
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Regarding the "is the pandemic over?" though, my job seemed to officially announce it is from their perspective today. We all need to make it known if we are returning to the office by end of week. And judging by the amount of cars on the road since Labor Day, it seems most people are back to the office now. Also, we no longer have to wear a mask at work. It seems fairly over from my perspective although I need to show proof of vaccination for the Porcupine Tree show on Friday (as well as Sabaton/Epica next month).
Still? What a joke. Yeah cause an unvaccinated person is what spreads COVID. ::)
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Regarding the "is the pandemic over?" though, my job seemed to officially announce it is from their perspective today. We all need to make it known if we are returning to the office by end of week. And judging by the amount of cars on the road since Labor Day, it seems most people are back to the office now. Also, we no longer have to wear a mask at work. It seems fairly over from my perspective although I need to show proof of vaccination for the Porcupine Tree show on Friday (as well as Sabaton/Epica next month).
Still? What a joke. Yeah cause an unvaccinated person is what spreads COVID. ::)
Yeah, I was looking at my livenation tickets and both those listed as a health check which I haven't had to show in a long time so I was a bit surprised. It's an artists choice thing at this point but maybe because they are from outside the country they want to be cautious. I don't know. I
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Vaccinated people are less likely to spread the disease than unvaccinated persons if they are both infected (due to reduced viral load and generally being less symptomatic). From that perspective, limiting large group events to vaccinated people does tangibly reduce the risk of that group becoming a super spreader event.
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Vaccinated people are less likely to spread the disease than unvaccinated persons if they are both infected (due to reduced viral load and generally being less symptomatic). From that perspective, limiting large group events to vaccinated people does tangibly reduce the risk of that group becoming a super spreader event.
Key word is tangible. I'm not disagreeing with you, I just think it's not a very large % difference at this point because a large portion of the population is either vaccinated, covid recovered, or both (like almost everyone I know is both at this point).
None of this means much personally since I'm vaccinated and have the app, takes a second to show proof and I'm in, but it is a bit odd to be doing this after something like 30 other concerts I've been to this year that didn't ask for it.
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I mean, for touring musicians, I can definitely understand why they might want to be more cautious. Can you imagine making a comeback tour after a 10 year hiatus and then have either the musicians or the tour staff come down with it?
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Vaccinated people are less likely to spread the disease than unvaccinated persons if they are both infected (due to reduced viral load and generally being less symptomatic). From that perspective, limiting large group events to vaccinated people does tangibly reduce the risk of that group becoming a super spreader event.
Please. Is the difference enough to warrant creating a divide and banishing a group of people entirely like they have leprosy or something? Give me a break.
Touring musicians and roadies hardly come in contact with the audience anyway.
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Covid is an airborne disease that sticks around in places with inadequate ventilation. Close contact doesn't matter so much in a crowd situation.
In any case, if individuals are allowed to make personal choices regarding their vaccination status based on their own risk assessments, then venues and musicians are also allowed to make such decisions on their own metrics.
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Yeah, I'm not gonna get into it.
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I mean, for touring musicians, I can definitely understand why they might want to be more cautious. Can you imagine making a comeback tour after a 10 year hiatus and then have either the musicians or the tour staff come down with it?
Well yeah, these bands have been dealing with it for the last year or so now. It makes me wonder if someone in the band still hasn't caught covid yet and they are trying to protect them. Like I said, of all the other concerts I went to, those touring musicians didn't seem to care. Not arguing here, there's certainly a lot on the line for a tour. I don't know about Porcupine Tree, but Sabaton and Epica have been touring a lot lately.
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Again, might not be the bands, could be the venues. Airlines have been having huge troubles with staff sickness since they started lifting restrictions. Can't imagine big crowd venues aren't worried about losing a whole bunch of staff to a super spreader event either.
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So TAC, they scheduled a meeting with your family and did not mention it would be online?
I am all for meetings that can happen virtually, provided both parties agree to that provision.
One thing that has bugged me since this took off, however, is when people insist on having a video call, when a phone call would suffice. We survived just fine handling tons of business over the phone for over a century. Covid shouldn't be used as the reasoning to switch those calls to video. I admit part of that is me; I hate talking on the phone. When I do, I am staring off in to space, doing chores, posting on dtf.org... if we are just talking, there is no reason we need to see each other and have me focused on your face on my screen.
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I hate having Teams meeting for work. Face to face is so much more beneficial IMO. The Teams video conferences are here to stay too, especially in my organisation. But when we have them, I always have no video. I hate seeing my mug along with everyone else's mug on the call, just unnecessary.
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So TAC, they scheduled a meeting with your family and did not mention it would be online?
I actually think my wife may have missed that little detail.. :lol
Still, the whole thing fried me.
Masks
Can't even provide a room for us to take the facetime call
Not giving a family the respect and dignity of meeting in person
A fucking lawn mower??
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So TAC, they scheduled a meeting with your family and did not mention it would be online?
I actually think my wife may have missed that little detail.. :lol
Still, the whole thing fried me.
Masks
Can't even provide a room for us to take the facetime call
Not giving a family the respect and dignity of meeting in person
A fucking lawn mower??
I would have asked her, "why is your husband mowing the lawn on a weekday while you're working? You supporting him?" ;D
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The lady could've very well said it was a call and not a meeting. My wife has been work stressed and could've missed it.
But I rail against the fact that we can't meet in person.
Doing consultations this way still is a fucking pisstake and simply a cop out for people to stay the fuck at home and piss around IMO. I have no doubt the consultation would have been more beneficial and helpful for your lad I'd it were in person. People milk the fucking life out of this pandemic and its disgraceful in my book.
He really rolls with it. He handled the whole thing with grace, unlike his father. I was so proud of him. He answered all of the questions enthusiastically.
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The lady could've very well said it was a call and not a meeting. My wife has been work stressed and could've missed it.
But I rail against the fact that we can't meet in person.
Doing consultations this way still is a fucking pisstake and simply a cop out for people to stay the fuck at home and piss around IMO. I have no doubt the consultation would have been more beneficial and helpful for your lad I'd it were in person. People milk the fucking life out of this pandemic and its disgraceful in my book.
He really rolls with it. He handled the whole thing with grace, unlike his father. I was so proud of him. He answered all of the questions enthusiastically.
So he's learning what not to do from you also? He is a smart lad. :lol
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I'm going to be a whiny bitch this morning... Trivia team sizes.
I know Trivia is all fun and games, but we still like to play a little seriously. There's awesome prizes for every round at the place we like to play (free apps, shots, drinks, bottles of wine, gift cards, etc). We went last night, and a party of FOURTEEN entered as a single team. They literally swept the night and went 50/50. They took the competitive fun out of the evening for everyone. There should be limits!
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Artists who try to control the fan's experience at shows. "No cameras."
They don't think of the free promotion they are getting. Plus, the joy of having a pictures of a band I'm excited to see.
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The lady could've very well said it was a call and not a meeting. My wife has been work stressed and could've missed it.
But I rail against the fact that we can't meet in person.
In my opinion, this is huge. We're going through some shit here* and my stepson, on the spectrum, has had to meet with DCF (Child services) and a Guardian Ad Litem (GAL) and there is HUGE HUGE HUGE difference between meeting over Zoom and meeting in person. Yeah, we're all adults, so I can discuss a contract term or a change order over Zoom, because I've been working for 30+ years and I know how to do it. My 14-year-old, who already struggles with personal cues and reading a room, he needs all the help he can get, and more importantly, the people meeting with him have to get the full measure of HIM. I feel for you and your family, TAC; that to me is a level of... not disrespect, but certainly that sends the message that our process and our "rules" are more important than the child in question.
* So we've been battling with his dad again; I've told you all that we moved, a year ago, to a new town with a FAR FAR superior school system over where he was, and dad decided he didn't want to drive to the new town so blocked his kid from going to the new school. We finally negotiated him going to the new school - he LOVES it! - but he hasn't seen his dad in person in about six months. Because... dad filed an application to remove his parental rights. What dad didn't know is, in Connecticut, the kid gets served the papers. So my stepson saw everything dad wrote (it's a ploy to get out of paying child support) and is deeply hurt. So now we're gearing up for the court hearing about whether dad should have his parental rights removed. In the meantime, dad has been texting my stepson "I love you" and "we should meet and talk so you can hear my side of the story". Even the 14-year-old knows that's bullshit, and there aren't "sides" to this; you either love me and want to be my dad, or you don't. It's bordering on fucking EVIL, man. The kid is beside himself. He picks at his fingernails and toenails out of stress. It's tragic to watch.
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So we've been battling with his dad again; I've told you all that we moved, a year ago, to a new town with a FAR FAR superior school system over where he was, and dad decided he didn't want to drive to the new town so blocked his kid from going to the new school. We finally negotiated him going to the new school - he LOVES it! - but he hasn't seen his dad in person in about six months. Because... dad filed an application to remove his parental rights. What dad didn't know is, in Connecticut, the kid gets served the papers. So my stepson saw everything dad wrote (it's a ploy to get out of paying child support) and is deeply hurt. So now we're gearing up for the court hearing about whether dad should have his parental rights removed. In the meantime, dad has been texting my stepson "I love you" and "we should meet and talk so you can hear my side of the story". Even the 14-year-old knows that's bullshit, and there aren't "sides" to this; you either love me and want to be my dad, or you don't. It's bordering on fucking EVIL, man. The kid is beside himself. He picks at his fingernails and toenails out of stress. It's tragic to watch.
What a piece of shit.
When I met my now-wife, she had an 18-month old from a previous marriage. Long story short, the guy, who was a complete douchebag, gave up his parental rights, mostly (I suspect) to avoid having to continue paying child support (although he was still on the hook for all of the past payments on which he was behind). The day that we received our copy of the parental rights revocation documents, I filed to adopt her, and the day I was able to give her my last name was one of the happiest of my life. My wife took great pains to keep me away from that piece of shit for years (not easy, it was a very small town).
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They should make a movie about both of you. Step...up....dads. Get it? Pretty genius.
I'd say Mark Wahlberg play Stadler and Morgan Freeman play Hef.
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My stepson was 5 when I met his mother. Which handsome actor plays me?
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My stepson was 5 when I met his mother. Which handsome actor plays me?
Did you step up?
Let's go with Channing Tatum.
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So we've been battling with his dad again; I've told you all that we moved, a year ago, to a new town with a FAR FAR superior school system over where he was, and dad decided he didn't want to drive to the new town so blocked his kid from going to the new school. We finally negotiated him going to the new school - he LOVES it! - but he hasn't seen his dad in person in about six months. Because... dad filed an application to remove his parental rights. What dad didn't know is, in Connecticut, the kid gets served the papers. So my stepson saw everything dad wrote (it's a ploy to get out of paying child support) and is deeply hurt. So now we're gearing up for the court hearing about whether dad should have his parental rights removed. In the meantime, dad has been texting my stepson "I love you" and "we should meet and talk so you can hear my side of the story". Even the 14-year-old knows that's bullshit, and there aren't "sides" to this; you either love me and want to be my dad, or you don't. It's bordering on fucking EVIL, man. The kid is beside himself. He picks at his fingernails and toenails out of stress. It's tragic to watch.
What a piece of shit.
When I met my now-wife, she had an 18-month old from a previous marriage. Long story short, the guy, who was a complete douchebag, gave up his parental rights, mostly (I suspect) to avoid having to continue paying child support (although he was still on the hook for all of the past payments on which he was behind). The day that we received our copy of the parental rights revocation documents, I filed to adopt her, and the day I was able to give her my last name was one of the happiest of my life. My wife took great pains to keep me away from that piece of shit for years (not easy, it was a very small town).
We have a lot in common; part of the reason we moved is that my wife wanted the physical separation from him. I've only met him twice - I go to ALL the PPT (at school) meetings for my stepson, all the parent conferences, etc. and I've only met him TWICE in ten years; think about that for a second - but I think she feels like our luck is running out. :)
A couple days after the application was filed, we were at dinner and my stepson asked me outright about adopting him. Hell to the yeah. Wouldn't even think twice (we have to get through the hearing first; there's actually a reasonable chance the court denies the application, so that he CAN'T skate out from child support.)
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So we've been battling with his dad again; I've told you all that we moved, a year ago, to a new town with a FAR FAR superior school system over where he was, and dad decided he didn't want to drive to the new town so blocked his kid from going to the new school. We finally negotiated him going to the new school - he LOVES it! - but he hasn't seen his dad in person in about six months. Because... dad filed an application to remove his parental rights. What dad didn't know is, in Connecticut, the kid gets served the papers. So my stepson saw everything dad wrote (it's a ploy to get out of paying child support) and is deeply hurt. So now we're gearing up for the court hearing about whether dad should have his parental rights removed. In the meantime, dad has been texting my stepson "I love you" and "we should meet and talk so you can hear my side of the story". Even the 14-year-old knows that's bullshit, and there aren't "sides" to this; you either love me and want to be my dad, or you don't. It's bordering on fucking EVIL, man. The kid is beside himself. He picks at his fingernails and toenails out of stress. It's tragic to watch.
What a piece of shit.
When I met my now-wife, she had an 18-month old from a previous marriage. Long story short, the guy, who was a complete douchebag, gave up his parental rights, mostly (I suspect) to avoid having to continue paying child support (although he was still on the hook for all of the past payments on which he was behind). The day that we received our copy of the parental rights revocation documents, I filed to adopt her, and the day I was able to give her my last name was one of the happiest of my life. My wife took great pains to keep me away from that piece of shit for years (not easy, it was a very small town).
We have a lot in common; part of the reason we moved is that my wife wanted the physical separation from him. I've only met him twice - I go to ALL the PPT (at school) meetings for my stepson, all the parent conferences, etc. and I've only met him TWICE in ten years; think about that for a second - but I think she feels like our luck is running out. :)
A couple days after the application was filed, we were at dinner and my stepson asked me outright about adopting him. Hell to the yeah. Wouldn't even think twice (we have to get through the hearing first; there's actually a reasonable chance the court denies the application, so that he CAN'T skate out from child support.)
Would your input in the affirmative hold any water with the court?
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So we've been battling with his dad again; I've told you all that we moved, a year ago, to a new town with a FAR FAR superior school system over where he was, and dad decided he didn't want to drive to the new town so blocked his kid from going to the new school. We finally negotiated him going to the new school - he LOVES it! - but he hasn't seen his dad in person in about six months. Because... dad filed an application to remove his parental rights. What dad didn't know is, in Connecticut, the kid gets served the papers. So my stepson saw everything dad wrote (it's a ploy to get out of paying child support) and is deeply hurt. So now we're gearing up for the court hearing about whether dad should have his parental rights removed. In the meantime, dad has been texting my stepson "I love you" and "we should meet and talk so you can hear my side of the story". Even the 14-year-old knows that's bullshit, and there aren't "sides" to this; you either love me and want to be my dad, or you don't. It's bordering on fucking EVIL, man. The kid is beside himself. He picks at his fingernails and toenails out of stress. It's tragic to watch.
What a piece of shit.
When I met my now-wife, she had an 18-month old from a previous marriage. Long story short, the guy, who was a complete douchebag, gave up his parental rights, mostly (I suspect) to avoid having to continue paying child support (although he was still on the hook for all of the past payments on which he was behind). The day that we received our copy of the parental rights revocation documents, I filed to adopt her, and the day I was able to give her my last name was one of the happiest of my life. My wife took great pains to keep me away from that piece of shit for years (not easy, it was a very small town).
We have a lot in common; part of the reason we moved is that my wife wanted the physical separation from him. I've only met him twice - I go to ALL the PPT (at school) meetings for my stepson, all the parent conferences, etc. and I've only met him TWICE in ten years; think about that for a second - but I think she feels like our luck is running out. :)
A couple days after the application was filed, we were at dinner and my stepson asked me outright about adopting him. Hell to the yeah. Wouldn't even think twice (we have to get through the hearing first; there's actually a reasonable chance the court denies the application, so that he CAN'T skate out from child support.)
Would your input in the affirmative hold any water with the court?
We're not sure yet; I'm locked and loaded if so, but we're waiting for the DCF (by the way "Department of Child and Family Services" if memory serves) report and my stepson to meet with his new GAL, which is this afternoon.
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Artists who try to control the fan's experience at shows. "No cameras."
They don't think of the free promotion they are getting. Plus, the joy of having a pictures of a band I'm excited to see.
Porcupine Tree?
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They should make a movie about both of you. Step...up....dads. Get it? Pretty genius.
I'd say Mark Wahlberg play Stadler and Morgan Freeman play Hef.
He's already played god in two movies, not sure he wants to be typecasted.
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Artists who try to control the fan's experience at shows. "No cameras."
They don't think of the free promotion they are getting. Plus, the joy of having a pictures of a band I'm excited to see.
Porcupine Tree?
Yeah, I had Lisa block the view if security. Lol
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Blackmore's Night let's you snap away for the first two songs, then they ask you to put them away for the rest of the show. It seemed to work. Candace was actually really cool about it, preening and posing in between the first two songs. Then she got down to business.
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Think that's a reasonable compromise. I'll be honest, as someone who primarily goes to focus on the band, having a sea of arms and brightly lit screens blocking my view ain't an ideal concert experience.
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I'm very courteous went taking pictures. Not to block anyone. It's self centered assholes who block one's view a whole show. He'll, I made my wife sit down last night. Lol
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They should make a movie about both of you. Step...up....dads. Get it? Pretty genius.
I'd say Mark Wahlberg play Stadler and Morgan Freeman play Hef.
He's already played god in two movies, not sure he wants to be typecasted.
LOL
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Artists who try to control the fan's experience at shows. "No cameras."
They don't think of the free promotion they are getting. Plus, the joy of having a pictures of a band I'm excited to see.
Sorry, man, but I have to side with the artists on this one. They have the right to demand no cameras at their shows, just like we have the right to not go if we don't like it.
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Artists who try to control the fan's experience at shows. "No cameras."
They don't think of the free promotion they are getting. Plus, the joy of having a pictures of a band I'm excited to see.
Sorry, man, but I have to side with the artists on this one. They have the right to demand no cameras at their shows, just like we have the right to not go if we don't like it.
Same here.
At Operas, you can't even talk or be loud, let alone take pictures. Why can't an artist want the same kind of courtesy from the audience at one of their live shows, in considering the phone usage.
The Aristocrats let people take photos but not any videos (which is easy to tell if you're recording). Bryan Beller got after a guy, in the front row, about taking videos and kindly asked him to put the phone away. There were signs around the venue and people should be expected to have some decency and courtesy to oblige with the wishes of the band.
The same venue they played at also has a strict no jumping on stage rule. I defied that rule once because the merch person for Animals As Leaders dared me to. So I did and I got a free shirt out of it. But was led outside and got a stern taking to from one of the main security there. He told me, I could go back in, but not to do it again or anything else or else id be kicked out.
I also enjoy watching live videos from people that do record shows. But I foind the ones i enjoy are the shows that arr reforded from the middle of the venue or from further in the back, everything is better, the sound, the stage presentation and sometimes the video quality. It doesn't make sense to record from the front row because mostly all you hear is bass and the recording becomes nothing but muddled noise.
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Artists who try to control the fan's experience at shows. "No cameras."
They don't think of the free promotion they are getting. Plus, the joy of having a pictures of a band I'm excited to see.
Sorry, man, but I have to side with the artists on this one. They have the right to demand no cameras at their shows, just like we have the right to not go if we don't like it.
No they don't. I'm paying for the experience. My money, my choice.
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Terms and conditions apply to any transaction.
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Wasn't on my ticket. It was broadcasted when I got there. If it's promoted with the sale of a ticket, we who pay their bills could make that decision.
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Joe, when did you turn into a millennial? :P
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Joe, when did you turn into a millennial? :P
Probably about the same time you turned into a grumpy old man. :lol
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Joe, when did you turn into a millennial? :P
LOL It's not like I'm holding my phone for the whole show but I'd like to take a few pictures without disturbing the others around me. How about they police those who do that.
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Joe, when did you turn into a millennial? :P
LOL It's not like I'm holding my phone for the whole show but I'd like to take a few pictures without disturbing the others around me. How about they police those who do that.
I suspect it is an all or nothing thing. For every guy like you who wants to snap a few pics and not be obstructive, you have one dope who wants to record the whole show on his phone while showing no regard that he or she is blocking the view of others. It's just easier to say no to everything altogether than to have the staff try to determine in real time who the good picture/video takers are and who the bad ones are.
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Oh, I get it but it upsets me that I have to resort to using my wife as a shield from the bouncers. LOL She helped willingly lol
Funny story. Randy McStine saw us waving at him. Waved back and asked if I took pictures. He asked me to send them to him. How's that for irony.
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Joe, when did you turn into a millennial? :P
LOL It's not like I'm holding my phone for the whole show but I'd like to take a few pictures without disturbing the others around me. How about they police those who do that.
I suspect it is an all or nothing thing. For every guy like you who wants to snap a few pics and not be obstructive, you have one dope who wants to record the whole show on his phone while showing no regard that he or she is blocking the view of others. It's just easier to say no to everything altogether than to have the staff try to determine in real time who the good picture/video takers are and who the bad ones are.
I was at a Keith Urban concert, we went down in the pit so were like five feet from the stage, and this bridal shower showed up and one of the women stood there with an IPAD over her head. I usually keep my own counsel and move away if it's too annoying, but this time I actually said something to one of her friends.
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Track down the next concert she attends and stand directly in front of her holding a sign of similar size with the slogan "This is how it feels!" written on it.
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Track down the next concert she attends and stand directly in front of her holding a sign of similar size with the slogan "This is how it feels!" written on it.
Saturday night! LOL
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Joe, when did you turn into a millennial? :P
Probably about the same time you turned into a grumpy old man. :lol
:lol
Wasn't on my ticket. It was broadcasted when I got there. If it's promoted with the sale of a ticket, we who pay their bills could make that decision.
I think this is a fair point. If they don't want to you to use your camera, make it known at the point of sale. Also just do the Yondr pouch way. If we cant take pictures/video, then lock the phones up and don't make the ushers deal with everyone. That's significantly more distracting than people putting their arms up in the air for a moment to take a picture. And yes, the people who block others for extended periods of time are assholes.
This is giving me bad memories of DT at Radio City for TA. Ushers just ruining the night. At least I know going in so I left my camera home for the show tonight. I did see on some of the youtube videos people saying they were allowed to use their camera for the final song of the night.
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Joe, when did you turn into a millennial? :P
LOL It's not like I'm holding my phone for the whole show but I'd like to take a few pictures without disturbing the others around me. How about they police those who do that.
I suspect it is an all or nothing thing. For every guy like you who wants to snap a few pics and not be obstructive, you have one dope who wants to record the whole show on his phone while showing no regard that he or she is blocking the view of others. It's just easier to say no to everything altogether than to have the staff try to determine in real time who the good picture/video takers are and who the bad ones are.
I was at a Keith Urban concert, we went down in the pit so were like five feet from the stage, and this bridal shower showed up and one of the women stood there with an IPAD over her head. I usually keep my own counsel and move away if it's too annoying, but this time I actually said something to one of her friends.
Ahh.....you lost me about here.
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Artists who try to control the fan's experience at shows. "No cameras."
They don't think of the free promotion they are getting. Plus, the joy of having a pictures of a band I'm excited to see.
Came back to say that it was actually nice not seeing a sea of screens up for the entire show. A few people did it obviously, but security was quick to shine a line.
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Artists who try to control the fan's experience at shows. "No cameras."
They don't think of the free promotion they are getting. Plus, the joy of having a pictures of a band I'm excited to see.
Came back to say that it was actually nice not seeing a sea of screens up for the entire show. A few people did it obviously, but security was quick to shine a line.
I'm for kicking them out but some of us like a few pictures without bothering those around us.
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Joe, when did you turn into a millennial? :P
LOL It's not like I'm holding my phone for the whole show but I'd like to take a few pictures without disturbing the others around me. How about they police those who do that.
I suspect it is an all or nothing thing. For every guy like you who wants to snap a few pics and not be obstructive, you have one dope who wants to record the whole show on his phone while showing no regard that he or she is blocking the view of others. It's just easier to say no to everything altogether than to have the staff try to determine in real time who the good picture/video takers are and who the bad ones are.
I was at a Keith Urban concert, we went down in the pit so were like five feet from the stage, and this bridal shower showed up and one of the women stood there with an IPAD over her head. I usually keep my own counsel and move away if it's too annoying, but this time I actually said something to one of her friends.
Ahh.....you lost me about here.
HAHA, he's a hell of a guitar player, though.
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Joe, when did you turn into a millennial? :P
LOL It's not like I'm holding my phone for the whole show but I'd like to take a few pictures without disturbing the others around me. How about they police those who do that.
I suspect it is an all or nothing thing. For every guy like you who wants to snap a few pics and not be obstructive, you have one dope who wants to record the whole show on his phone while showing no regard that he or she is blocking the view of others. It's just easier to say no to everything altogether than to have the staff try to determine in real time who the good picture/video takers are and who the bad ones are.
I was at a Keith Urban concert, we went down in the pit so were like five feet from the stage, and this bridal shower showed up and one of the women stood there with an IPAD over her head. I usually keep my own counsel and move away if it's too annoying, but this time I actually said something to one of her friends.
Ahh.....you lost me about here.
HAHA, he's a hell of a guitar player, though.
OK. Let's see if that works... :lol
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Joe, when did you turn into a millennial? :P
LOL It's not like I'm holding my phone for the whole show but I'd like to take a few pictures without disturbing the others around me. How about they police those who do that.
I suspect it is an all or nothing thing. For every guy like you who wants to snap a few pics and not be obstructive, you have one dope who wants to record the whole show on his phone while showing no regard that he or she is blocking the view of others. It's just easier to say no to everything altogether than to have the staff try to determine in real time who the good picture/video takers are and who the bad ones are.
I was at a Keith Urban concert, we went down in the pit so were like five feet from the stage, and this bridal shower showed up and one of the women stood there with an IPAD over her head. I usually keep my own counsel and move away if it's too annoying, but this time I actually said something to one of her friends.
Ahh.....you lost me about here.
HAHA, he's a hell of a guitar player, though.
He's as good a player as he is a line snorter, so yes......he's a damn fine guitar player.
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Any politician who sends me a spam text or call has zero chance of getting my vote.
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Any politician who sends me a spam text or call has zero chance of getting my vote.
I've generally adopted that rule as well; unfortunately, that means I'm likely writing in "Mickey Mouse" in 2024. :)
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Any politician who sends me a spam text or call has zero chance of getting my vote.
I've generally adopted that rule as well; unfortunately, that means I'm likely writing in "Mickey Mouse" in 2024. :)
For some reason, I am mostly getting those from out of state candidates. For example, I have gotten a couple from both of the Senate candidates from our state, but I get texts every day from Beto's campaign. Dude, I can't vote for you.
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Any politician who sends me a spam text or call has zero chance of getting my vote.
I've generally adopted that rule as well; unfortunately, that means I'm likely writing in "Mickey Mouse" in 2024. :)
I am so tempted to text you as Mickey Mouse asking for just a bit of your cheese for my campaign.
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Any politician who sends me a spam text or call has zero chance of getting my vote.
I've generally adopted that rule as well; unfortunately, that means I'm likely writing in "Mickey Mouse" in 2024. :)
For some reason, I am mostly getting those from out of state candidates. For example, I have gotten a couple from both of the Senate candidates from our state, but I get texts every day from Beto's campaign. Dude, I can't vote for you.
But that's not to get your vote for SENATE, that's to get you thinking about him for when he throws his hat in the ring in 2024 and you can recall his heroic and noble moral victories in his Senate battles. Green for sarcasm, right?
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Any politician who sends me a spam text or call has zero chance of getting my vote.
I've generally adopted that rule as well; unfortunately, that means I'm likely writing in "Mickey Mouse" in 2024. :)
For some reason, I am mostly getting those from out of state candidates. For example, I have gotten a couple from both of the Senate candidates from our state, but I get texts every day from Beto's campaign. Dude, I can't vote for you.
But that's not to get your vote for SENATE, that's to get you thinking about him for when he throws his hat in the ring in 2024 and you can recall his heroic and noble moral victories in his Senate battles. Green for sarcasm, right?
Well, he's not likely to get that vote either lol
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Any politician who sends me a spam text or call has zero chance of getting my vote.
I've generally adopted that rule as well; unfortunately, that means I'm likely writing in "Mickey Mouse" in 2024. :)
There is one guy on our ballet who I have seen every time I went to vote for President. It's some long spanish name, and I always joke to my parents and others, I should just vote for him. :lol
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When you go to grocery store or convenience store and they are out of Product A that I want but have a surplus of Product B that I don't want, so to hide the hole, they put extra of Product B where Product A would be so, although it "looks" full, the flip side is that the product I actually want never gets ordered because nothing looks out of stock.
First world problems :P
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Well, in the 21st century, I'm sure most grocery stores have computer software that tracks invoices and inventory levels by product. If they are re-ordering goods based on a visual sweep of the shelves, that's more like 3rd world problems.
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Well, in the 21st century, I'm sure most grocery stores have computer software that tracks invoices and inventory levels by product. If they are re-ordering goods based on a visual sweep of the shelves, that's more like 3rd world problems.
Close. It's not invoices that are tracked, but scans through the register.
It's all based off of an items "Balance On Hand", so when you get a case of something, say it's packed 12, then 12 units are added to the items BOH. If 8 of them are scanned out the front end, the BOH is now at 4. Items also have a "reorder point", so once the inventory level on the shelf reaches a certain number of units, the system will generate an order for another case.
When you go to grocery store or convenience store and they are out of Product A that I want but have a surplus of Product B that I don't want, so to hide the hole, they put extra of Product B where Product A would be so, although it "looks" full, the flip side is that the product I actually want never gets ordered because nothing looks out of stock.
It depends what the store's policy is. Generally, if it's a hole, leave it a hole. But some stores may want to cover the holes with adjacent product for presentation reasons.
For stores that Hand Order, yes, you have to be careful to recognize what is blocked over and what is not.
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Good points Tim. I forgot to mention CBO. That is a widely used re-order point system. However, now with the supply chain all outta whack, there's holes everywhere. ???
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Well, in the 21st century, I'm sure most grocery stores have computer software that tracks invoices and inventory levels by product. If they are re-ordering goods based on a visual sweep of the shelves, that's more like 3rd world problems.
Close. It's not invoices that are tracked, but scans through the register.
It's all based off of an items "Balance On Hand", so when you get a case of something, say it's packed 12, then 12 units are added to the items BOH. If 8 of them are scanned out the front end, the BOH is now at 4. Items also have a "reorder point", so once the inventory level on the shelf reaches a certain number of units, the system will generate an order for another case.
When you go to grocery store or convenience store and they are out of Product A that I want but have a surplus of Product B that I don't want, so to hide the hole, they put extra of Product B where Product A would be so, although it "looks" full, the flip side is that the product I actually want never gets ordered because nothing looks out of stock.
It depends what the store's policy is. Generally, if it's a hole, leave it a hole. But some stores may want to cover the holes with adjacent product for presentation reasons.
For stores that Hand Order, yes, you have to be careful to recognize what is blocked over and what is not.
Depends on managers too. I remember working at walgreens our store manager always wanted a well stocked shelf look so he asked us to plug holes with other products. The other management staff hated this policy.
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I hate when stores plug the hole, especially if the tag for the out of stock item is still there. If stores plug the hole, I'm just moving all the other products looking behind making a mess looking for what I want thinking there's some still there sitting behind at the back.
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I know plenty of people who like it when the hole gets plugged, but to each his/her own, I guess.
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Well, we certainly don't want the wrong hole getting plugged, now do we? :lol
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I know plenty of people who like it when the hole gets plugged, but to each his/her own, I guess.
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I for one will do the plugging thank you very much!
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I'm 6 feet 4 inches (193 cm) tall. I wear a 36 inseam pants. It is so irritating that almost no stores carry this length and most have very few 34 inseam pants either. Big and tall stores don't typically help much because I'm tall, but not fat. I hate having to order clothes online without trying them first and with very limited selection.
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If I could be 6'4"...I'd put up with it! ;D
I'll trade you my 5'10" ass storebought 34x30's anyday.
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If I could be 6'4"...I'd put up with it! ;D
I'll trade you my 5'10" ass storebought 34x30's anyday.
:lol Naw, I'll keep my height, but I can be a tad exasperated about a disappointing shopping experience!
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I'm 6 feet 4 inches (193 cm) tall. I wear a 36 inseam pants. It is so irritating that almost no stores carry this length and most have very few 34 inseam pants either.
What are you finding where you shop? I usually have a hard time finding the right waist/inseam combo, which is usually 32/32 but varies based on brand. I believe they are monkeying around with sizing because my whole adult life my inseam has been 34, but for the last couple years I've been buying 32. And I didn't shrink.
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I don't buy pants very often but I just buy the cheapest ones that I can get on haha. They are too expensive! I never understood the different sizings with waist and legs and all that shit.
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If I could be 6'4"...I'd put up with it! ;D
I'll trade you my 5'10" ass storebought 34x30's anyday.
Word, on that.
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6'2" here, I buy 36X34, and it's usually a mission to find that size.
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I'm 6 feet 4 inches (193 cm) tall. I wear a 36 inseam pants. It is so irritating that almost no stores carry this length and most have very few 34 inseam pants either.
What are you finding where you shop? I usually have a hard time finding the right waist/inseam combo, which is usually 32/32 but varies based on brand. I believe they are monkeying around with sizing because my whole adult life my inseam has been 34, but for the last couple years I've been buying 32. And I didn't shrink.
Yesterday when I was looking there were lots of pants for shorter, wider guys. Tons of 30 inseam. 36 waist and higher. I always wonder if places are short on the 34 inseam because they all get purchased, or because they don't order many in the first place? I was curious to find a 34x34 just to see if the length would be good enough, but not a single pair in that size.
Another thing I've discovered with pants online is that many companies just have a single length that varies depending on the waist. 30x30, 32x30, 34x32, 36x32, 38x34, etc. As if waist size and leg length are directly correlated to each other. Short fat guys, and tall skinny guys are just out of luck with many companies it seems.
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Yeah a 29 inseam is perfect for me but there's hardly any in that size. The 30 works when I'm wearing shoes but once they're off I'm sort of stepping on the cuffs.
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Big and tall stores don't typically help much because I'm tall, but not fat.
Sounds like it's time to get fat.
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Fuck you all and your sub-36 waist sizes!
My problem is that I'm probably a 31" inseam, but no one ever seems to have anything other than 30 (which looks like I'm preparing for a flood) or 32, which I end up fraying because they're too long.
Also, can someone please shoot the person who came up with the standard iPhone ring tone (I think it's called "Marimba")?! So...g-damned annoying!
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Big and tall stores don't typically help much because I'm tall, but not fat.
Sounds like it's time to get fat.
I've been working on that. Not really a fan, so trying to go back in the other direction. :lol
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Big and tall stores don't typically help much because I'm tall, but not fat.
Sounds like it's time to get fat.
Yo!
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Big and tall stores don't typically help much because I'm tall, but not fat.
Sounds like it's time to get fat.
As an expert in this field, this will be a first.
Don't listen to Hef. :lol
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I just want to know where the short and fat stores are. I'm tired of shirts coming down to my damn knees! :lol
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I feel attacked. :lol
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I just want to know where the short and fat stores are. I'm tired of shirts coming down to my damn knees! :lol
Sounds like a million dollar idea to me. :lol
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So...I was at work today and I saw this magazine..
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/SpoAAOSwfQ1jNfdO/s-l1600.jpg)
WTF is Kelly Ripa telling all about, and who fucking cares? What big fucking news is Kelly Ripa about to spill??
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Maybe you should have bought it and read to find out? :biggrin:
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Who the fuck is Kelly Ripa?
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So...I was at work today and I saw this magazine..
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/SpoAAOSwfQ1jNfdO/s-l1600.jpg)
WTF is Kelly Ripa telling all about, and who fucking cares? What big fucking news is Kelly Ripa about to spill??
My guess would be marriage, sex, kids, botox, and Regis.
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What the fuck is a regis?
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What the fuck is a regis?
Currently? Fertilizer.
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What the fuck is a regis?
Currently? Fertilizer.
Duuuuuuude.
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What the fuck is a regis?
Currently? Fertilizer.
Is that your final answer?
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So...I was at work today and I saw this magazine..
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/SpoAAOSwfQ1jNfdO/s-l1600.jpg)
WTF is Kelly Ripa telling all about, and who fucking cares? What big fucking news is Kelly Ripa about to spill??
Does it matter? She's hot AF. She can tell all about whatever she damn well pleases.
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Using nouns as verbs. I saw an ad yesterday "This is how you football". What?
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Using nouns as verbs. I saw an ad yesterday "This is how you football". What?
I'M TIRED OF ADULTING.
As an English major, I understand, but I also hate it a little bit.
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Using nouns as verbs. I saw an ad yesterday "This is how you football". What?
This post right here. This is how you Stadler.
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Using nouns as verbs. I saw an ad yesterday "This is how you football". What?
This post right here. This is how you Stadler.
Well, that's the exception to the rule. Of course. :) :) :)
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So...I was at work today and I saw this magazine..
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/SpoAAOSwfQ1jNfdO/s-l1600.jpg)
WTF is Kelly Ripa telling all about, and who fucking cares? What big fucking news is Kelly Ripa about to spill??
Does it matter? She's hot AF. She can tell all about whatever she damn well pleases.
Overrated.
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Using nouns as verbs. I saw an ad yesterday "This is how you football". What?
This post right here. This is how you Stadler.
Well, that's the exception to the rule. Of course. :) :) :)
I deplorable all the time.
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So...I was at work today and I saw this magazine..
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/SpoAAOSwfQ1jNfdO/s-l1600.jpg)
WTF is Kelly Ripa telling all about, and who fucking cares? What big fucking news is Kelly Ripa about to spill??
Does it matter? She's hot AF. She can tell all about whatever she damn well pleases.
Overrated.
Just googled her. She's very attractive but maybe not hot AF. Still hot though. Not sure how she's viewed to judge if she's overrated.
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Overrated by Stadler. ;D
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Any attractiveness she has flies away as soon as he talks. My mom used to watch that show when Regis and then Michael Strahan were on there, and Ripa's voice is literally like nails on a chalkboard (and that is not even factoring her self-important aura). The fact that she takes a dump on Regis, who is not alive to defend himself, in that article speaks volumes about her (lack of) character.
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Any attractiveness she has flies away as soon as he talks. My mom used to watch that show when Regis and then Michael Strahan were on there, and Ripa's voice is literally like nails on a chalkboard (and that is not even factoring her self-important aura). The fact that she takes a dump on Regis, who is not alive to defend himself, in that article speaks volumes about her (lack of) character.
Well, the dump on Rege isn't cool at all. All that might be true; I don't watch a lot of that kind of TV. I just like that look.
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Using nouns as verbs. I saw an ad yesterday "This is how you football". What?
We've been doing that since Shakespeare.
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I think Nate Burleson came up with that slogan. Wasn't he the one in the ad?
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Using nouns as verbs. I saw an ad yesterday "This is how you football". What?
We've been doing that since Shakespeare.
Yeah, well it needs to stop. :) This is NOT how we Shakespeare. :)
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It's interesting growing up with your native language, the version you find ideal and comfortable, being a result of hundreds of years of change and bastardization and then witnessing MORE change and bastardization and fighting against it because it's not what you were raised in.
It makes sense. I hate a lot of the changes being made to modern English, but it's really hard to make a line in the sand here while I am currently speaking what is a bastardization of some (not mine) ancestor's ideal English.
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It's interesting growing up with your native language, the version you find ideal and comfortable, being a result of hundreds of years of change and bastardization and then witnessing MORE change and bastardization and fighting against it because it's not what you were raised in.
It makes sense. I hate a lot of the changes being made to modern English, but it's really hard to make a line in the sand here while I am currently speaking what is a bastardization of some (not mine) ancestor's ideal English.
Yup. Eventually you just gotta roll with it. There's many things that have changed and annoyed me with the language but then later on I'm doing the same thing I was once annoyed with. I'm pretty sure Stadler's example is one of them.
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It's interesting growing up with your native language, the version you find ideal and comfortable, being a result of hundreds of years of change and bastardization and then witnessing MORE change and bastardization and fighting against it because it's not what you were raised in.
It makes sense. I hate a lot of the changes being made to modern English, but it's really hard to make a line in the sand here while I am currently speaking what is a bastardization of some (not mine) ancestor's ideal English.
I think about what you wrote a lot. I really do. I hear slang and nomenclature and I think to myself "what would John Adams say about that?" and I realize, it is what it is. It's the evolution. I get that. I laugh at it, but I get it. I see things like "terrified" move into the vernacular, I see things like "my truth" move into the vernacular, and I'm like you: I see progress. I'm not against bastardization or change; in fact I'm fascinated by it, because I think it says more about us as a nation, as a people, than we're aware of or that we care to admit.
I'll have to think about it some more, but there's something about that particular change that irks.
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One does no harm by embiggening their lexicon.
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When I first heard Nate Burleson say "this is how you football", I'm like ok. I get it. You really don't need to insert the word "play" to get your point across. It's pretty much a given. Kind of like when they talk about good players. They don't say he's a good football player or he's playing really good. They say he's "ballin". Putting foot in front of it seems a bit redundant. It's just a diverse way of mixing things up.
I'll have to think about it some more, but there's something about that particular change that irks.
TBH, I don't think there's a whole lot to think about here, Stads. You might get wrapped around the axle again. :p
One does no harm by embiggening their lexicon.
:lol
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I spent the last two days at our company's "leadership meeting." Nothing wrong with the meeting itself, and they put everyone up at a swanky beach hotel. My issue is with the dinner last night. After sitting and listening to presentations for eight hours, everyone (about 60 people) walked to a nearby restaurant. After standing and drinking on the outdoor patio for what seemed like an hour, we went inside and were seated. We had assigned places, which I didn't care for, but I understand why they do it (they wanted people from our various offices to mix and mingle). The problem was that it was SO DAMN LOUD! I could barely understand half of what the person on the other side of the table was saying. After two and a half hours, I was among the first people to leave and was so happy to be out in the relative quiet of the outside and then my room.
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I am so glad I work in construction, where the main, and really only, priorities are doing quality work for our clients and making a profit. No team-building, no seminars on equity, no training sessions on diversity... just a desire to work with our clients as best we can and earn a good wage.
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I spent the last two days at our company's "leadership meeting." Nothing wrong with the meeting itself, and they put everyone up at a swanky beach hotel. My issue is with the dinner last night. After sitting and listening to presentations for eight hours, everyone (about 60 people) walked to a nearby restaurant. After standing and drinking on the outdoor patio for what seemed like an hour, we went inside and were seated. We had assigned places, which I didn't care for, but I understand why they do it (they wanted people from our various offices to mix and mingle). The problem was that it was SO DAMN LOUD! I could barely understand half of what the person on the other side of the table was saying. After two and a half hours, I was among the first people to leave and was so happy to be out in the relative quiet of the outside and then my room.
I fucking hated those cattle call style meetings. So glad I don't have to do them anymore.
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I'm going to one in 2 weeks in Washington DC.
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I spent the last two days at our company's "leadership meeting." Nothing wrong with the meeting itself, and they put everyone up at a swanky beach hotel. My issue is with the dinner last night. After sitting and listening to presentations for eight hours, everyone (about 60 people) walked to a nearby restaurant. After standing and drinking on the outdoor patio for what seemed like an hour, we went inside and were seated. We had assigned places, which I didn't care for, but I understand why they do it (they wanted people from our various offices to mix and mingle). The problem was that it was SO DAMN LOUD! I could barely understand half of what the person on the other side of the table was saying. After two and a half hours, I was among the first people to leave and was so happy to be out in the relative quiet of the outside and then my room.
We had something like this for my work recently with a live band. They were just playing old timey standards, nothing rocky, but they were stupidly loud and it was absolutely pointless to try to talk to anyone.
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I got a new iPhone 14 this weekend, and why is it so stupidly big and why did they take away the home button? I’m convinced companies just change stuff for the sake of it without regard to whether or not it’s an improvement. Needless to say, swiping is much more difficult of an action than tapping, and now you have to do it any time you want to navigate on the phone. Plus you have to reach farther to get to the swipe spot because the phone is stonking huge.
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My level of frustration in attempting to deal with our health care system is off the charts.
Every aspect seems to be broken or require hours of effort. Nobody answers phones. Outside billing companies are clueless and unresponsive and send out invoices 13 months after services have been paid for. Lab results dissappear. You receive bills for services never performed at facilities in another state. You are given up-front cost estimates but...oops, the anesthesiologist was outside the network even though you were in an in- network facility. I could go on and on. Frankly, I'd rather keel over and die than try to navigate this vindaloop nightmare.
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People in levels of management (similar to me) that won't have the balls to make a call on something and take some control. All they do nothing but pick everything to pieces, whinge about how crap a situation is and are too gutless to be the 'bad guy,' stand up and just do something. I have to come along, do their work for them and be the trouble maker for asking questions and put my foot down on something when a situation is untentable.
The amount of people that just want to bitch and talk absolute shit is astounding. The 'not my job or level to make that call,' mentality pisses me off. if that's the case, don't fucking bitch!
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I've had managers like that. They're good at telling you what's wrong. Just have no idea how to help you fix it.
When I was a manger, I prided myself on being able to help my associates.
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I've had managers like that. They're good at telling you what's wrong. Just have no idea how to help you fix it.
When I was a manger, I prided myself on being able to help my associates.
While yes, my manager is exactly like that, what pissed me off yesterday is people on the same level as me. It's kind of like I'm in a more leadership role than they are even though we're technically the same and getting paid the same. They just don't have the nuts to take a bit more control and while my direct boss is away at the moment, leave it up to me. Carrying the load for others is starting to wear me down. Maybe at times I'm slightly overstepping my mark but Jesus, just as some questions, make a decision and take matters into your own hands and stop whinging ffs!
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My level of frustration in attempting to deal with our health care system is off the charts.
Every aspect seems to be broken or require hours of effort. Nobody answers phones. Outside billing companies are clueless and unresponsive and send out invoices 13 months after services have been paid for. Lab results dissappear. You receive bills for services never performed at facilities in another state. You are given up-front cost estimates but...oops, the anesthesiologist was outside the network even though you were in an in- network facility. I could go on and on. Frankly, I'd rather keel over and die than try to navigate this vindaloop nightmare.
Oh man, I hear this. I had an upper endoscopy done like 5-6 years ago and I ended up getting three charges, one by the facility, one by my doctor, and one by the anesthesiologist (who technically was an off site worker or some BS like that). What a freaking scam. The health care system in this country now is such a racket.
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When I went through lymphoma, dealing with the hospital s trying to get me to pay in full before the insurance did their part was mind blowing. Never mind it took insurance 3 to 4 bill to cover what they would be expected to cover but the constant harassment of the hospital for payment.
Never mind you always have to be the gopher/interpreter between each two. Why do I have to do all the legwork? Don't I pay for insurance?
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When I went through lymphoma, dealing with the hospital s trying to get me to pay in full before the insurance did their part was mind blowing. Never mind it took insurance 3 to 4 bill to cover what they would be expected to cover but the constant harassment of the hospital for payment.
Never mind you always have to be the gopher/interpreter between each two. Why do I have to do all the legwork? Don't I pay for insurance?
I handle all the bills and finances for my mom now that my dad is gone and I have a stack of envelopes about a foot high on my kitchen counter for my dad (between a broken leg, rehab, cancer testing, diagnoses and hospice). It is what it is, I don't expect my government to do my work for me, but certainly it could be a LOT more streamlined. I think that's the one thing I DON'T like, is the way that the various entities kind of all point at each other.
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"You see, you unfortunately plumped for our 'Neverpay' policy, which, you know, if you never claim is very worthwhile, but you had to claim, and, well, there it is."
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When I went through lymphoma, dealing with the hospital s trying to get me to pay in full before the insurance did their part was mind blowing. Never mind it took insurance 3 to 4 bill to cover what they would be expected to cover but the constant harassment of the hospital for payment.
Never mind you always have to be the gopher/interpreter between each two. Why do I have to do all the legwork? Don't I pay for insurance?
I handle all the bills and finances for my mom now that my dad is gone and I have a stack of envelopes about a foot high on my kitchen counter for my dad (between a broken leg, rehab, cancer testing, diagnoses and hospice). It is what it is, I don't expect my government to do my work for me, but certainly it could be a LOT more streamlined. I think that's the one thing I DON'T like, is the way that the various entities kind of all point at each other.
I'm more complaining when the hospital wants you to pay a bill and you know it should be covered probably because it was coded wrong. The communication should be between the hospital and the insurance but you end up complaining and stepping in asking them to figure out what they coded wrong. I'm not the expert, they are. They do their job poorly and you have to fight every time to get it corrected. They should pay me for my time doing their job.
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So my sister died last December and in the 3 months up to her death, she was hospitalized 3 times, had 2 surgeries, 1 ICU stay, and about a dozen office visits.
My brother-in-law has to date received 1 bill. For the ambulance ride from 1 hospital to another. Nothing else.
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^ So sorry about your sister. :(
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Thanks. The beginning of the end started last year at the end of September. Couple that with the anniversary of my step-dad's death Oct 17th, and my mom's death 11/1 (2018 for both) the fall this year seems to be triggering me more than I thought it would.
But I will persevere.... :heart
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Thanks. The beginning of the end started last year at the end of September. Couple that with the anniversary of my step-dad's death Oct 17th, and my mom's death 11/1 (2018 for both) the fall this year seems to be triggering me more than I thought it would.
But I will persevere.... :heart
I feel for you. Sincerely.
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Thanks, Stads. I know you get it. Grief is like surfing in the ocean - some waves you ride like you are 100% in control and some waves crash over your head and threaten to drown you. Sometimes there are even sharks lurking below. But what's the saying? It isn't how you fall down but how you get back up that matters.
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There are days when it fucking hits you, and that's ok. Those are the days when you miss them the most because those are the days when you feel their presence the most.
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Along the lines of what a racket health care is in this country, I had to cancel my MRI today on my back due to my insurance company not approving it. What a joke. My MD will have to call them to try and convince them I need it, but I am not holding my breath on that. F'ing health care. :censored :censored
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Along the lines of what a racket health care is in this country, I had to cancel my MRI today on my back due to my insurance company not approving it. What a joke. My MD will have to call them to try and convince them I need it, but I am not holding my breath on that. F'ing health care. :censored :censored
Think about this. You have an issue. Your doctor wants to investigate and insurance says no way. If that isn't a red alarm I don't know.
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Along the lines of what a racket health care is in this country, I had to cancel my MRI today on my back due to my insurance company not approving it. What a joke. My MD will have to call them to try and convince them I need it, but I am not holding my breath on that. F'ing health care. :censored :censored
Think about this. You have an issue. Your doctor wants to investigate and insurance says no way. If that isn't a red alarm I don't know.
That's basically a default. Once the PCP appeals it, it should go through.
Yes, a pain in in the ass.
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That's the problem. It's a pain in the ass. It shouldn't be.
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I know.
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The whole thing is stupid. I mean, I am not in any worse shape than I was weeks ago (I move around mostly fine, and the hip pain is much better due to a few good PT sessions), but I'd still like to get the MRI to see if it is so bad that any more steps need to be taken. This just slows down the process.
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As a provider in health care, I also feel that frustration, just on the other end. Can’t tell you how many times a doctor has referred a patient to me (a physical therapist) simply because their insurance requires they do PT before approving a surgery or MRI. Never mind they can’t move or tolerate any activity for shit, and haven’t for the past four months. But gotta chase the carrot to get the patient what they need. Nothing more frustrating and burnout-laden for me than to just go through the motions without making a damn bit of difference, just to be a stepping stone. Sure, it’s generally more cost effective to go through PT first, but certain cases are so obvious that they need more than what I can provide. But gotta play the game, no exceptions. It’s hard to function healthily in a system that doesn’t have the patient’s best interests in mind, only the money.
Ideally, the patients, providers, and payors would all be able to work together for everybody. But because insurances have the money, they call all the shots. Sometimes they come through. Others, they don’t, and we’re left telling the patient they can’t get what they need because their insurance denied it. It’s definitely a racket, and one I’m not sure I can tolerate another 20+ years of if things keep going this way.
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On a different exasperating experience:
Sitting in traffic next to some penis wrinkle blasting his shitty music through open windows for the rest of the world to hear. Granted, early 20s Snow Dog used to do this as well with Rush and Porcupine Tree, but early 40s Snow Dog kind of wants to go back and kick his inconsiderate ass straight in the sack.
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Got a flat tire yesterday around 5 p.m. Waited over an hour on the side of the freeway for the AAA guy to show up because I thought I needed a tow because, for some reason, my car has fancy wheel locks and I didn't know the key was in the glove compartment until I got to the dealership. After changing the tire and driving back home on the "donut" tire tire, I found out that finding a place to get a tire on a Sunday is apparently an impossibility.
Ugh....
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Veering into P/R territory, maybe, but... newscasters that tell me what I should feel. I've noticed this three times in the last couple days (one might have been a link posted here): "We won't be showing the video because it's very upsetting". Why not let me decide that? I saw that warning as recently as this morning, on my local news (regarding an incident where three police were shot - two fatally - in an ambush) and when I finally saw the video, it wasn't even close.
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Veering into P/R territory, maybe, but... newscasters that tell me what I should feel. I've noticed this three times in the last couple days (one might have been a link posted here): "We won't be showing the video because it's very upsetting". Why not let me decide that? I saw that warning as recently as this morning, on my local news (regarding an incident where three police were shot - two fatally - in an ambush) and when I finally saw the video, it wasn't even close.
They're not worried about YOU, or trying to protect YOU.
They're trying to avoid the phone calls from the Karens who would be upset that such things were being shone on their family-oriented local channel.
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Veering into P/R territory, maybe, but... newscasters that tell me what I should feel. I've noticed this three times in the last couple days (one might have been a link posted here): "We won't be showing the video because it's very upsetting". Why not let me decide that? I saw that warning as recently as this morning, on my local news (regarding an incident where three police were shot - two fatally - in an ambush) and when I finally saw the video, it wasn't even close.
They're not worried about YOU, or trying to protect YOU.
They're trying to avoid the phone calls from the Karens who would be upset that such things were being shone on their family-oriented local channel.
Especially when eating their delicious dinner...
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Piggybacking on Stadler's post, I get annoyed with articles that purport to say some politician/celebrity said/posted/tweeted something offensive/racist/hurtful/etc... but don't say what the alleged offensive/racist/hurtful/etc statement was.
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Veering into P/R territory, maybe, but... newscasters that tell me what I should feel. I've noticed this three times in the last couple days (one might have been a link posted here): "We won't be showing the video because it's very upsetting". Why not let me decide that? I saw that warning as recently as this morning, on my local news (regarding an incident where three police were shot - two fatally - in an ambush) and when I finally saw the video, it wasn't even close.
They're not worried about YOU, or trying to protect YOU.
They're trying to avoid the phone calls from the Karens who would be upset that such things were being shone on their family-oriented local channel.
Sure, no doubt, but unintended consequences. To all the people that they don't care about, they are now sending and/or reinforcing the message that it's okay to tell people what their feelings should be - as long as the "feelings" are pre-approved by the thought-police.
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Veering into P/R territory, maybe, but... newscasters that tell me what I should feel. I've noticed this three times in the last couple days (one might have been a link posted here): "We won't be showing the video because it's very upsetting". Why not let me decide that? I saw that warning as recently as this morning, on my local news (regarding an incident where three police were shot - two fatally - in an ambush) and when I finally saw the video, it wasn't even close.
They're not worried about YOU, or trying to protect YOU.
They're trying to avoid the phone calls from the Karens who would be upset that such things were being shone on their family-oriented local channel.
Sure, no doubt, but unintended consequences. To all the people that they don't care about, they are now sending and/or reinforcing the message that it's okay to tell people what their feelings should be - as long as the "feelings" are pre-approved by the thought-police.
I thought the same thing when I heard NBC 30 say that. Regarding the same story, last night it was announced that the surviving officer was 'justified in his use of deadly force according to the investigation'. Ummm - was there really a need for that investigation? Can we just go on common sense here a little? The suspect 1) baited officers into showing up at his home, 2) when they arrived, fired over 80 shots at them.
Disclaimer: I get that they needed to do the investigation for legal purposes. I guess the thing I find a tad exasperating sometimes IS the legal purpose.
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In one post you agree with Stadler, advocate for common sense, and rail against the system and procedures.
Stadler's head explodes in 3....2....
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In one post you agree with Stadler, advocate for common sense, and rail against the system and procedures.
Stadler's head explodes in 3....2....
:rollin
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We live in the world where people cannot just turn the station. Please feel the need to express why they don't like what they are watching and why others should agree. It goes to both sides. Me, I just don't bother because I don't want to waste time debating when I know neither would compromise.
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In one post you agree with Stadler, advocate for common sense, and rail against the system and procedures.
Stadler's head explodes in 3....2....
:rollin
:tup
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So yes, I'm a cranky old man, especially at work. People have become so weak minded. It's like if there's any pressure or maybe someone is thrown a curveball, people just cannot handle it. I am constantly hearing things like "I don't need this job", "I shouldn't have to deal with this", or "I feel like just walking out."
I don't know if it's an instant gratification or an immediacy of needs, but it just feels like people have lost sight of the Long Play. Work is work. It's not always fun, or easy. There are tough days and even longer tough spells. Why is the "flight" response so prevalent?
Everyone seems to be complaining about something. How about just ShuttingTFU and work through it?
There's been a project at work last week, where they were laying new flooring in the coolers and prep areas, and yes, it smelled like hell. But all people did was threaten to leave. They want to complain. It's more than the casual convo "yeah, it smells like shit". People were generally pissed off about it.
One of my vendors asked me how I deal with the smell. My response was "By not being a pussy."
People are never going to get anywhere by JUST living in the short term. I understand that have job dissatisfaction and some jobs aren't right for people, but in my store, NO job is difficult.
I don't know. I'm exasperated.
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Tim, I hear that. That is the new trend. Too many people cannot handle anything out of their comfort zone. Sometimes you have to do stuff at work you don't like. Tough shit. Suck it up and f'ing do it. But nope. Most would rather quietly quit and then piss and moan about how no one will pay them what they are worth, as if someone with a shitty attitude and crappy work ethic is irreplaceable.
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Tim, you and I deal with reclamation projects and it blows me away how much people don't care. Their issues personal mean more than making money. Supporting family. Ect.
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It's not even that. Everyone is a baby, even the adults.
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I think it's who we deal with really. Driven people don't work manual labor jobs. They don't understand it can be a great stepping stone.
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I think it's who we deal with really. Driven people don't work manual labor jobs. They don't understand it can be a great stepping stone.
That's just it. It's why I mention losing sight of the Long Play. But plenty of driven people work manual labor jobs. Plenty of tradesmen, etc...
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Not at the pay we are at. There's a reason they are there but they can grow and move on to a great job and if they are a hard worker, I will gladly give them a great referral.
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I think it's who we deal with really. Driven people don't work manual labor jobs. They don't understand it can be a great stepping stone.
I work for a small remodeling company. We are in need of grunt laborers. If you can use a drill and show up every day sober, my boss will pay you $20/hour. If you have rudimentary skills and a few of your own tools, you'll start at $25. It's hard work, you'll end up in tight crawl spaces and working on decks in the rain, but you won't have to deal with angry customers in the Jack in the Box drive-thru at 1am. After a couple years, if you learned enough to prove you can run your own project, your pay will double.
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So yes, I'm a cranky old man, especially at work. People have become so weak minded. It's like if there's any pressure or maybe someone is thrown a curveball, people just cannot handle it. I am constantly hearing things like "I don't need this job", "I shouldn't have to deal with this", or "I feel like just walking out."
I don't know if it's an instant gratification or an immediacy of needs, but it just feels like people have lost sight of the Long Play. Work is work. It's not always fun, or easy. There are tough days and even longer tough spells. Why is the "flight" response so prevalent?
Everyone seems to be complaining about something. How about just ShuttingTFU and work through it?
There's been a project at work last week, where they were laying new flooring in the coolers and prep areas, and yes, it smelled like hell. But all people did was threaten to leave. They want to complain. It's more than the casual convo "yeah, it smells like shit". People were generally pissed off about it.
One of my vendors asked me how I deal with the smell. My response was "By not being a pussy."
People are never going to get anywhere by JUST living in the short term. I understand that have job dissatisfaction and some jobs aren't right for people, but in my store, NO job is difficult.
I don't know. I'm exasperated.
You're speaking my language pal. This is all true.
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Tim, I hear that. That is the new trend. Too many people cannot handle anything out of their comfort zone. Sometimes you have to do stuff at work you don't like. Tough shit. Suck it up and f'ing do it. But nope. Most would rather quietly quit and then piss and moan about how no one will pay them what they are worth, as if someone with a shitty attitude and crappy work ethic is irreplaceable.
What people think they deserve to get paid fucking astounds me. Nine times out of ten from what I see these people actually get paid too much, have no real idea in their field and spend most their time whinging and talking shit. Plus their work ethic sucks and they just take the piss while they are at work. And they think they are underpaid! Lol, fuck me!
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Tim, I hear that. That is the new trend. Too many people cannot handle anything out of their comfort zone. Sometimes you have to do stuff at work you don't like. Tough shit. Suck it up and f'ing do it. But nope. Most would rather quietly quit and then piss and moan about how no one will pay them what they are worth, as if someone with a shitty attitude and crappy work ethic is irreplaceable.
What people think they deserve to get paid fucking astounds me. Nine times out of ten from what I see these people actually get paid too much, have no real idea in their field and spend most their time whinging and talking shit. And they think they are underpaid! Lol, fuck me!
Or..."They don't pay me enough to do that." Fuck off, you took the job.
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Tim, I hear that. That is the new trend. Too many people cannot handle anything out of their comfort zone. Sometimes you have to do stuff at work you don't like. Tough shit. Suck it up and f'ing do it. But nope. Most would rather quietly quit and then piss and moan about how no one will pay them what they are worth, as if someone with a shitty attitude and crappy work ethic is irreplaceable.
What people think they deserve to get paid fucking astounds me. Nine times out of ten from what I see these people actually get paid too much, have no real idea in their field and spend most their time whinging and talking shit. And they think they are underpaid! Lol, fuck me!
Or..."They don't pay me enough to do that." Fuck off, you took the job.
Yeah, heard that a few times. They shouldn't pay these people at all IMO.
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Tim, you and I deal with reclamation projects and it blows me away how much people don't care. Their issues personal mean more than making money. Supporting family. Ect.
I see this more and more also. People making as much money as they can simply takes a back-seat for their bullshit exaggerated issues that aren't even fucking problems. We are becoming a bunch of entitled softcocks.
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Tim, you and I deal with reclamation projects and it blows me away how much people don't care. Their issues personal mean more than making money. Supporting family. Ect.
I see this more and more also. People making as much money as they can simply takes a back-seat for their bullshit exaggerated issues that aren't even fucking problems. We are becoming a bunch of entitled softcocks.
Right, and their personal issues aren't the company's problem. "I need a raise because I can't pay my rent". My wife hears this all the time at her work.
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Somewhat related, or not really, but it reminds me of my bartending days when the smokers thought they were entitled to constant smoke breaks outside. I have to admit I always laughed to myself when they made themselves go outside when it was 10 degrees and then come inside crying about how cold it was. Boo freaking hoo, nimrods.
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Tim, you and I deal with reclamation projects and it blows me away how much people don't care. Their issues personal mean more than making money. Supporting family. Ect.
I see this more and more also. People making as much money as they can simply takes a back-seat for their bullshit exaggerated issues that aren't even fucking problems. We are becoming a bunch of entitled softcocks.
Right, and their personal issues aren't the company's problem. "I need a raise because I can't pay my rent". My wife hears this all the time at her work.
Again, no ownership. People need more money just because the cost of living? Nevermind working your ass off to deserve and work up to that raise. They just expect it and expect the company to give it to them without anything in return.
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Somewhat related, or not really, but it reminds me of my bartending days when the smokers thought they were entitled to constant smoke breaks outside. I have to admit I always laughed to myself when they made themselves go outside when it was 10 degrees and then come inside crying about how cold it was. Boo freaking hoo, nimrods.
The US should adapt what a Japenese company did. If you don't smoke while working (meaning, no daily smoke breaks) you get an extra 6 days of vacation a year than those that take daily smoke breaks.
I feel like we had this discussion not long ago about employees thinking their value is higher than what they get paid
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We talk about this frequently; and I'll bet if you asked every one of them, at least 75% would say "I could do management's job, easy. They're a bunch of idiots. They need to do yada, yada, yada..."
I say often "when everyone has a story, no one does", and that applies here. So that one guy has rent. Well, I have a mortgage. That other guy has a tuition payment. That other gal has a student loan payment. But I'm also sort of a "water finds it's own level" guy, too. There are always exceptions, but the odds are, you're earning what you're worth. The market is too volatile, and many companies are too market savvy for half the workforce to be "wrongly" paid. It's a hard reckoning in this society of ours, where we're all precious diamonds, and we all matter, and our opinions are little flecks of gold brightening the horizon, to ultimately find out you're an hourly laborer at best.
Cue up the frustrations and anxieties that we're talking about over in the "Guns Are Icky" and "Biden Presidency" threads.
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The US should adapt what a Japenese company did. If you don't smoke while working (meaning, no daily smoke breaks) you get an extra 6 days of vacation a year than those that take daily smoke breaks.
That's like, 7 days of holiday total then!
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Somewhat related, or not really, but it reminds me of my bartending days when the smokers thought they were entitled to constant smoke breaks outside. I have to admit I always laughed to myself when they made themselves go outside when it was 10 degrees and then come inside crying about how cold it was. Boo freaking hoo, nimrods.
The US should adapt what a Japenese company did. If you don't smoke while working (meaning, no daily smoke breaks) you get an extra 6 days of vacation a year than those that take daily smoke breaks.
I feel like we had this discussion not long ago about employees thinking their value is higher than what they get paid
I heard the head of my org won't hire someone if he knows they are a smoker. I don't know if that falls under some sort of discrimination thing, but seems legit to me when you think about how much time a cigarette smoker will spend outside smoking and not working.
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Somewhat related, or not really, but it reminds me of my bartending days when the smokers thought they were entitled to constant smoke breaks outside. I have to admit I always laughed to myself when they made themselves go outside when it was 10 degrees and then come inside crying about how cold it was. Boo freaking hoo, nimrods.
The US should adapt what a Japenese company did. If you don't smoke while working (meaning, no daily smoke breaks) you get an extra 6 days of vacation a year than those that take daily smoke breaks.
I feel like we had this discussion not long ago about employees thinking their value is higher than what they get paid
I heard the head of my org won't hire someone if he knows they are a smoker. I don't know if that falls under some sort of discrimination thing, but seems legit to me when you think about how much time a cigarette smoker will spend outside smoking and not working.
There's also the obvious health-related costs.
Again, probably not kosher when it comes to the law, but over the course of a few decades, I guarantee you the employee with the unhealthy lifestyle is going to add a cost to everyone's premium.
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Somewhat related, or not really, but it reminds me of my bartending days when the smokers thought they were entitled to constant smoke breaks outside. I have to admit I always laughed to myself when they made themselves go outside when it was 10 degrees and then come inside crying about how cold it was. Boo freaking hoo, nimrods.
The US should adapt what a Japenese company did. If you don't smoke while working (meaning, no daily smoke breaks) you get an extra 6 days of vacation a year than those that take daily smoke breaks.
I feel like we had this discussion not long ago about employees thinking their value is higher than what they get paid
I heard the head of my org won't hire someone if he knows they are a smoker. I don't know if that falls under some sort of discrimination thing, but seems legit to me when you think about how much time a cigarette smoker will spend outside smoking and not working.
What should be done is companies should find punishments for employees who do take "breaks" on company time. As long as the job gets done, why does a person's personal life matter?
For me, I feel some people feel a sense of entitlement and view themselves as being more, let's say...higher up in the class system, and fear being a part of the lower. This includes working jobs they feel are below them.
But also, this economy isn't helping matters much either. If a person falls from grace and has no money at all. It's hard to start from the bottom and rise from the pit, it takes a lot of work and energy. Humans tend to not have that drive and will find other easier, less work, ways to get money. It's why humans end up stealing or selling illegal things on the black market, such as stealing catalytic converters and tires. Over here, it's panhandling, and its not just bums begging for money, there are immigrant families out there begging people for money, once they were blasting music so loud by a Starbucks, it was becoming concerning to their store, but as a customer I just laughed, got my drink and walked out. Let's also not forget how many people loved getting free money from the government with those relief checks we've been getting. And also let's include how many people won't work harder or achieve anything better due to losing that government funding such as EBT.
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Somewhat related, or not really, but it reminds me of my bartending days when the smokers thought they were entitled to constant smoke breaks outside. I have to admit I always laughed to myself when they made themselves go outside when it was 10 degrees and then come inside crying about how cold it was. Boo freaking hoo, nimrods.
The US should adapt what a Japenese company did. If you don't smoke while working (meaning, no daily smoke breaks) you get an extra 6 days of vacation a year than those that take daily smoke breaks.
I feel like we had this discussion not long ago about employees thinking their value is higher than what they get paid
I heard the head of my org won't hire someone if he knows they are a smoker. I don't know if that falls under some sort of discrimination thing, but seems legit to me when you think about how much time a cigarette smoker will spend outside smoking and not working.
There's also the obvious health-related costs.
Again, probably not kosher when it comes to the law, but over the course of a few decades, I guarantee you the employee with the unhealthy lifestyle is going to add a cost to everyone's premium.
If you check that you smoke when doing the paperwork when hired, you pay more in health insurance.
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Somewhat related, or not really, but it reminds me of my bartending days when the smokers thought they were entitled to constant smoke breaks outside. I have to admit I always laughed to myself when they made themselves go outside when it was 10 degrees and then come inside crying about how cold it was. Boo freaking hoo, nimrods.
The US should adapt what a Japenese company did. If you don't smoke while working (meaning, no daily smoke breaks) you get an extra 6 days of vacation a year than those that take daily smoke breaks.
I feel like we had this discussion not long ago about employees thinking their value is higher than what they get paid
I heard the head of my org won't hire someone if he knows they are a smoker. I don't know if that falls under some sort of discrimination thing, but seems legit to me when you think about how much time a cigarette smoker will spend outside smoking and not working.
There's also the obvious health-related costs.
Again, probably not kosher when it comes to the law, but over the course of a few decades, I guarantee you the employee with the unhealthy lifestyle is going to add a cost to everyone's premium.
If you check that you smoke when doing the paperwork when hired, you pay more in health insurance.
Yes, but my point was that, over the longhaul, you probably have more health-related ailments which will factor into your company's annual renegotiation.
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Yeah, I think that studies have shown that as well as being fat.
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I'm sure I've bitched about this before, but it's fresh in my mind having just gotten back from a trip.
One carry-on item and one "personal item" does not mean a big suitcase, plus a smaller overnight bag, plus a purse, plus six different coats, sweaters and blankets!
The number of people who get on a plane looking like they're about to embark on an Arctic expedition is confounding. I don't care so much, except when it impacts me by taking up undue overhead storage space or the person is sitting next to me and is trying pack all of that crap into the 4 cubic feet (or whatever it is) of space we get on a plane. And I can't even count the number of times I've been bashed by someone's shoulder bag or had someone's parka brush my face during the boarding process.
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If I never fly again, that'll be just fine with me. I'm hearing stories about people on planes being more rude now than they ever were. If I ever do have to fly, it will be 1st class.
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I fly a lot, and it's BRUTAL. Some of these people are animals. I've written about the family that got tossed from a flight because they didn't think the rules applied to them.
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I've been spared from the crazies on my flights, but definitely see what PG is talking about.
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I've been spared from the crazies on my flights, but definitely see what PG is talking about.
Yeah...I can't recall any significant incidents on any of my flights. Probably the "worst" was a woman who spilled a beverage on herself toward the end of the flight and went into the lavatory and didn't come out until the plane had landed. I also once had a guy put a guitar in a soft case in an overhead bin such that it took up the entire bin. I think I put my bag on top. He didn't notice but did notice when someone else did the same thing, at which point he got up and put his guitar on top of our bags, all the while muttering to himself. Both of those were more funny than anything.
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PG, I just flew today to DC and yes. It's an epidemic. People are assholes. BTW, I sat in the plane on the tarmac for an hour and 20 minutes. We took off when we were supposed to land in DC.
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PG, I just flew today to DC and yes. It's an epidemic. People are assholes. BTW, I sat in the plane on the tarmac for an hour and 20 minutes. We took off when we were supposed to land in DC.
Not as bad as my 4 hour delay last month :lol but still, considering the length of the flight that's pretty shitty to double it and I'd much rather be waiting in the terminal than on the tarmac, I hate that.
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PG, I just flew today to DC and yes. It's an epidemic. People are assholes. BTW, I sat in the plane on the tarmac for an hour and 20 minutes. We took off when we were supposed to land in DC.
Not as bad as my 4 hour delay last month :lol but still, considering the length of the flight that's pretty shitty to double it and I'd much rather be waiting in the terminal than on the tarmac, I hate that.
I have been seriously fortunate not to have experienced something like that for a long time. The worst part is that they rarely deign to explain WHY you're sitting around with your thumb in your ass.
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Flying home from Phoenix in the summer of 2021, we sat two hours on the plane. Then got off for an hour. We reboarded and sat another hour on the plane. Then we took off four hours late.
This past summer flying home from Orlando, I think we were delayed for 6 hours, after we got to the terminal.
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Flying home from Phoenix in the summer of 2021, we sat two hours on the plane. Then got off for an hour. We reboarded and sat another hour on the plane. Then we took off four hours late.
This past summer flying home from Orlando, I think we were delayed for 6 hours, after we got to the terminal.
Tim, were you delayed in Phx because of storms or just a broken plane?
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Flying home from Phoenix in the summer of 2021, we sat two hours on the plane. Then got off for an hour. We reboarded and sat another hour on the plane. Then we took off four hours late.
This past summer flying home from Orlando, I think we were delayed for 6 hours, after we got to the terminal.
Tim, were you delayed in Phx because of storms or just a broken plane?
Supposedly it was because of storms back east. If I remember correctly, the NY and NJ airports may have had to close temporarily that day. The pilot mentioned that they were waiting for flight plans and trying to figure out their fuel needed. We were flying to Boston, so at the end of the day, I think they were waiting for a weather window, a proper route, and traffic in the northeast to clear a bit.
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Probably my worst delay experience was once again a flight to Amsterdam from NJ. Boarded the plane and they said there were mechanical issues. Sat on the plane for 5 or so hours. They did let people get off to wait in the terminal but I had taken sleeping pills thinking I needed to sleep on the flight before getting to work in the morning upon arrival. So I slept through most of the first 4 hours. I even took more sleeping pills because I thought we'd eventually leave. At around midnight, they said the flight was cancelled. I was sooo drugged up, I stumbled out of the airport and into an uber back home since there wasn't another flight until the next night.
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I had an Orange County to Baltimore flight about 5-6 years ago. Immediately after takeoff, on the ascent, we hit a bird or a bird got sucked into one of the engines, so they decided to land at LAX to have it checked out. With the diversion and the time lost for the inspection, I missed my scheduled connection. Fortunately, while we were on the ground, I was able to get my company's travel department to get me on a different connecting flight, but I still had to sit around in Denver for about three hours. Then my return flight was delayed for a missing phalange or something like that. At least with both of those, I knew what was going on, and the delays were reasonable.
We had one about 20 years ago where we were visiting my wife's mother in Orlando. For some reason, we ended up in Tampa, and we sat at at the gate for what seemed like two hours. They weren't telling us anything and didn't want to let people off the plane, but we basically bullied out way off and rented a car and drove to Orlando and still got there quicker than our plane did.
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OOC, did you know/feel/hear something when the bird got sucked in? That would freak me out.
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Probably my worst delay experience was once again a flight to Amsterdam from NJ. Boarded the plane and they said there were mechanical issues. Sat on the plane for 5 or so hours. They did let people get off to wait in the terminal but I had taken sleeping pills thinking I needed to sleep on the flight before getting to work in the morning upon arrival. So I slept through most of the first 4 hours. I even took more sleeping pills because I thought we'd eventually leave. At around midnight, they said the flight was cancelled. I was sooo drugged up, I stumbled out of the airport and into an uber back home since there wasn't another flight until the next night.
That is brutal.
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I was in Frankfurt airport when a plane caught fire on the runway and basically every plane for the rest of the day was cancelled. I spent 8 hours in a queue to rebook my flight and to be told they had run out of hotels to offer those caught overnight. Not the most fun day I had.
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Ooff, that is one of my biggest travel fears.. being stuck over night and having no where to go but stay at the airport.
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Ah, I found a hotel in the end, they just couldn't book it for me for some reason. Got the cash back for it in the end. One of the benefits of EU travel is you have a lot of rights in these scenarios at least.
The following month I got a free upgrade from economy to business class on a trip out to Asia though, so I count that Karma as balanced. ^_^
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I've had so many good travel experiences overall that when a bad one does happen, I usually count that karma as balanced too :lol And I just booked a LA trip for work today, but after my last trip I should have karma back on my side.
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On the subject of smoke breaks... one of our crew takes a TON of smoke breaks. But he also busts ass and gets the job done. He had a laborer with him who was struggling and complained to the boss about it. The boss's response was that when he ran his own job, did it on time and under budget, he could take all the smoke breaks he wanted. Until then, don't worry about how other people allocate their time.
On the subject of flight delays... before we were married my wife and I had a layover in PDX. When we got there, a snowstorm was hitting, and before our departing flight the airport shut down all departures/arrivals. Amtrak was even shut down. We couldn't get out anywhere, via any method, for 4 days. There were guys walking around the airport with signs that read "I got a van, will drive anywhere, $200" and such. Once we decided we were stuck, we tried to make the most of it. We never made it to our destination, and missed out on Christmas with her parents, which upset her more than me, and were able to finally get back home on Christmas Eve. Our families decided that if we could survive that experience without killing each other, we were probably destined to be together.
Any time I am at the airport, I marvel at what they are able to accomplish. No, not everything runs smoothly, but it doesn't decrease my sense of amazement.
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On the subject of smoke breaks... one of our crew takes a TON of smoke breaks. But he also busts ass and gets the job done. He had a laborer with him who was struggling and complained to the boss about it. The boss's response was that when he ran his own job, did it on time and under budget, he could take all the smoke breaks he wanted. Until then, don't worry about how other people allocate their time.
I don't think this just applies to smoking. Management will look the other way at lots of things if you deliver the goods.
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On the subject of smoke breaks... one of our crew takes a TON of smoke breaks. But he also busts ass and gets the job done. He had a laborer with him who was struggling and complained to the boss about it. The boss's response was that when he ran his own job, did it on time and under budget, he could take all the smoke breaks he wanted. Until then, don't worry about how other people allocate their time.
I don't think this just applies to smoking. Management will look the other way at lots of things if you deliver the goods.
Agree, when I worked in retail, my supervisor would take at least 5 smoke break a day, but since he was getting his work done the store manager did not have a problem with it.
In terms of flights, I told the story before but in 2010, I had a flight scheduled for July 10 ( or 11, can't remember) to come back to NY. I had DT tickets for the following day (When they opened for Maiden at MSG) and I ended up missing out the show since my flight was cancelled because of a hurricane. I was already at the airport when they cancelled the flight :tdwn. Another time I was coming back from Mexico and we sat on the plane for 2.5 hours because of plane issues. it was hot AF outside and the place was completely off so no AC.
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OOC, did you know/feel/hear something when the bird got sucked in? That would freak me out.
I heard a THUNK, which I didn't think anything of at the time. However, when the pilot came on the intercom and told us what had happened, I thought, "ohhh...that's what that was."
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I was in Frankfurt airport when a plane caught fire on the runway and basically every plane for the rest of the day was cancelled. I spent 8 hours in a queue to rebook my flight and to be told they had run out of hotels to offer those caught overnight. Not the most fun day I had.
Frankfurt was also where I had the worst travel experience, 5 hour delay with a ton of jet lag. I was dying because it felt so hot in the airport and I just couldn't fall asleep, it felt like an eternity.
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I was in Frankfurt airport when a plane caught fire on the runway and basically every plane for the rest of the day was cancelled. I spent 8 hours in a queue to rebook my flight and to be told they had run out of hotels to offer those caught overnight. Not the most fun day I had.
Frankfurt was also where I had the worst travel experience, 5 hour delay with a ton of jet lag. I was dying because it felt so hot in the airport and I just couldn't fall asleep, it felt like an eternity.
At least you could eat pretzels :lol that's a big airport. The thing I enjoyed the most was how it has a smoking section so I chilled there for a bit and used my vape pen to feel nice and toasty before boarding. I do think it's fairly common for smoking sections at airports in europe, but I can't recall seeing them in the US airports.
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I was in Frankfurt airport when a plane caught fire on the runway and basically every plane for the rest of the day was cancelled. I spent 8 hours in a queue to rebook my flight and to be told they had run out of hotels to offer those caught overnight. Not the most fun day I had.
Frankfurt was also where I had the worst travel experience, 5 hour delay with a ton of jet lag. I was dying because it felt so hot in the airport and I just couldn't fall asleep, it felt like an eternity.
When we were flying to Netherlands for The Theater Equation (Ayreon) live show in 2015, we had a 1,5 hours transit in Frankfurt (which is quite a short time but hey, the tickets were cheap). We spent about 3 hours just standing in line for TSA. :lol Thankfully they had put us on another flight so then we spent four more hours (I think) in the airport waiting. Good times.
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I was in Frankfurt airport when a plane caught fire on the runway and basically every plane for the rest of the day was cancelled. I spent 8 hours in a queue to rebook my flight and to be told they had run out of hotels to offer those caught overnight. Not the most fun day I had.
Frankfurt was also where I had the worst travel experience, 5 hour delay with a ton of jet lag. I was dying because it felt so hot in the airport and I just couldn't fall asleep, it felt like an eternity.
When we were flying to Netherlands for The Theater Equation (Ayreon) live show in 2015, we had a 1,5 hours transit in Frankfurt (which is quite a short time but hey, the tickets were cheap). We spent about 3 hours just standing in line for TSA. :lol Thankfully they had put us on another flight so then we spent four more hours (I think) in the airport waiting. Good times.
Ruslan !!!!
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Anyone remember the days of doing your job without MS Teams or Zoom? Oh, sometimes I forget that when I started this job, I didn't even have a messenger program on my PC. We just emailed, and did phone calls when you needed urgency beyond a, say, 24 hour turn around.
This morning, I'm sitting on a conference call, and a coworker is blowing up my Teams with side commentary on one of the agenda items. Another coworker is blowing up my messenger with questions about our agenda for the next meeting. I damn near missed half the meeting, trying to ignore all this side-banter.
Who decided having a series of work-related chatrooms would make us more productive?
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Anyone remember the days of doing your job without MS Teams or Zoom? Oh, sometimes I forget that when I started this job, I didn't even have a messenger program on my PC. We just emailed, and did phone calls when you needed urgency beyond a, say, 24 hour turn around.
This morning, I'm sitting on a conference call, and a coworker is blowing up my Teams with side commentary on one of the agenda items. Another coworker is blowing up my messenger with questions about our agenda for the next meeting. I damn near missed half the meeting, trying to ignore all this side-banter.
Who decided having a series of work-related chatrooms would make us more productive?
I ran a 12 person meeting from the office yesterday. 11 of us were actually in the office. We still had the meeting virtually. I actually really like virtual meetings, but I hear what you're saying about the side chatting. I run a lot of meetings and ceremonies as part of my position (think scrum master stuff). It drives me fucking nuts when I'm trying to get notes down about deadlines, constraints, dependencies, etc... and my boss starts blowing up my chat about something someone just said. Even if I don't respond, it still breaks my concentration and I miss stuff.
The thing I hate most now is that we use Teams primarily for meetings, but it doesn't sync to our Skype status. Skype will just say "in a meeting" as my status. It no longer says "on a call" or "presenting". Every meeting I'm in, people still reach out and try to talk as if I'm not in one.
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So, I had a doctor's appointment this morning but couldn't remember the time. I wrote it down somewhere when I made the appointment, but I couldn't find the piece of paper. They never sent me a reminder, so I planned on calling after work yesterday. I called around 4:15 yesterday. I get the answering service. Apparently, they close at 4pm.
I see they open at 8am so I call right at 8. Answering service. Call again at 8:10..answering service. I asked what time they shut the service off and they say 8:30. I called again at 8:35...Answering service. I called right back and asked if they had a roster of appointments and they said they didn't. I asked again when the service is turned off, and this time I was told the office starts taking calls at 9:15. WTF??
The office is like 5 minutes away, so I get in my car at 8:40ish and drive over. I walk in and the receptionist says..."Tim?". I said I was wondering what time my appointment was and she said 9:00. So by chance, I just happened to arrive on time...
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Anyone remember the days of doing your job without MS Teams or Zoom? Oh, sometimes I forget that when I started this job, I didn't even have a messenger program on my PC. We just emailed, and did phone calls when you needed urgency beyond a, say, 24 hour turn around.
This morning, I'm sitting on a conference call, and a coworker is blowing up my Teams with side commentary on one of the agenda items. Another coworker is blowing up my messenger with questions about our agenda for the next meeting. I damn near missed half the meeting, trying to ignore all this side-banter.
Who decided having a series of work-related chatrooms would make us more productive?
FUCK MICROSOFT TEAMS!!!!
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I don't even know what Microsoft teams are.
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We use Teams for our conference calls.
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Oh ok, it's an office thingy.
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Its like Zoom but more from Microsoft.
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Gotcha.
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I don't even know what Microsoft teams are.
Lucky son of a bitch.
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So, I had a doctor's appointment this morning but couldn't remember the time. I wrote it down somewhere when I made the appointment, but I couldn't find the piece of paper. They never sent me a reminder, so I planned on calling after work yesterday. I called around 4:15 yesterday. I get the answering service. Apparently, they close at 4pm.
I see they open at 8am so I call right at 8. Answering service. Call again at 8:10..answering service. I asked what time they shut the service off and they say 8:30. I called again at 8:35...Answering service. I called right back and asked if they had a roster of appointments and they said they didn't. I asked again when the service is turned off, and this time I was told the office starts taking calls at 9:15. WTF??
The office is like 5 minutes away, so I get in my car at 8:40ish and drive over. I walk in and the receptionist says..."Tim?". I said I was wondering what time my appointment was and she said 9:00. So by chance, I just happened to arrive on time...
Couldn't possibly disrupt the morning coffee time with annoying phone calls.
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Oh ok, it's an office thingy.
And I still have to fucking use it sometimes. :lol
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Sitting here once again trying to work on rosters. I am fucking over rostering! The fortnights come around so quickly and this is so tedious and time consuming. Trying to get the motivation to get it done and stop bloody procrastinating! Just one of the worst things ever!! >:( :censored
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Sitting here once again trying to work on rosters. I am fucking over rostering! The fortnights come around so quickly and this is so tedious and time consuming. Trying to get the motivation to get it done and stop bloody procrastinating! Just one of the worst things ever!! >:( :censored
Other than accounting for day off requests or vacations, does it really change much from schedule to schedule?
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Tim calling technology "Thingy." :lol
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Sitting here once again trying to work on rosters. I am fucking over rostering! The fortnights come around so quickly and this is so tedious and time consuming. Trying to get the motivation to get it done and stop bloody procrastinating! Just one of the worst things ever!! >:( :censored
Other than accounting for day off requests or vacations, does it really change much from schedule to schedule?
Yeah it kinda does but I know what you mean that there are some constants. Although, we are in the time of year where we have groups of kids coming in for scheduled swimming lessons. At the moment there's 3 schools each day so that's 15 instructors right there daily. Plus lifeguards and front of house covering 3 venues 7 days a week going into summer. Some of those Front of House/Lifeguards are needing for the swimming lessons which obviously has a massive roll on effect with everything else. A lot of the guys also are uni students where their timetables change and it's also exam times. Plus all the young ones these days seem to love to take days off left right and centre which always throws things off.
Plus add in a new guy in my second role just being a muppet and making things harder instead of helping. Half the time a reason why my own name gets put down is because it's easier covering shit myself. As usual it's a long story haha.
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I guess I've just done literally every fucking fortnightly roster for 14 years. It just gets old and somewhat annoying. :lol
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Anyone remember the days of doing your job without MS Teams or Zoom? Oh, sometimes I forget that when I started this job, I didn't even have a messenger program on my PC. We just emailed, and did phone calls when you needed urgency beyond a, say, 24 hour turn around.
This morning, I'm sitting on a conference call, and a coworker is blowing up my Teams with side commentary on one of the agenda items. Another coworker is blowing up my messenger with questions about our agenda for the next meeting. I damn near missed half the meeting, trying to ignore all this side-banter.
Who decided having a series of work-related chatrooms would make us more productive?
FUCK MICROSOFT TEAMS!!!!
We just got Teams after a large internal battle if we were getting it or not. The issue is now we use Skype, Teams, and Symphony (a chat system a lot of other banks use), and our bloomberg terminal. It's a fucking mess.
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We use Teams. It's a valuable tool.
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We use Teams. It's a valuable tool.
For many industries, this is the way.
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We use Teams. It's a valuable tool.
For many industries, this is the way.
I don't think the problem is Teams itself. I think I understand Skeever/Chino's original dislike is that you go onto a meeting and you are still getting messaged on the side distracting you from the meeting. I know this well too and this was going on before we migrated (or started to migrate) to Teams.
My issue relating to this is that we use Slack but we are migrating to Teams so right now we use both and I need to be on different VPNs to access either so it's a real PITA to try to juggle both. Luckily, almost no one uses Teams yet besides for meetings so it's not as bad as it sounds, but we are in a weird limbo situation with our communication tools.
Personally, I love slack. I think it's a great chat app. Teams so far seems like a crappier version.
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I don't think the problem is Teams itself. I think I understand Skeever/Chino's original dislike is that you go onto a meeting and you are still getting messaged on the side distracting you from the meeting.
Yes, that's it. Sometimes I get messaged by people who are in the same meeting as me. It's crazy. Aren't you supposed to be paying attention, taking notes, contributing? Why are we wasting our time here, if not?
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I mean, I don't know. We do that at work also, sometimes in meetings, often in interviews. I just see it as a modern version of talking to the student next to you while the professor lectures.
If it's done to excess, I can see it as a problem, but otherwise, *shrugs*
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My coworker used to side message people in our meetings to try and get them to laugh. He got me so good one time I had to turn off my video/mic. One time one of the network engineers started laughing in a meeting and his manager who was running the meeting asked what was so funny, his response "the chats" which got everyone else to burst out laughing because we all knew exactly who was messaging him. I can't condone this stuff, but it's a rare instance when it's just so funny to see it happen.
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I don't think the problem is Teams itself. I think I understand Skeever/Chino's original dislike is that you go onto a meeting and you are still getting messaged on the side distracting you from the meeting.
Yes, that's it. Sometimes I get messaged by people who are in the same meeting as me. It's crazy. Aren't you supposed to be paying attention, taking notes, contributing? Why are we wasting our time here, if not?
We had a Teams meeting yesterday. It's basically all the folks who report directly to the EVP and couple folks on the next level down. One of the topics mentioned yesterday was that we need a couple more folks to become notaries. The EVP asked one person, who has a propensity for being difficult and straying off topic, how much something cost, and she proceeded to launch into five minutes about everything required to become a notary. Almost immediately, started a separate chat with a couple folks on the call poking fun at this woman. Should we have been paying attention, taking notes or contributing? Not in this case. But yeah, the EVP should have stopped her (and, frankly, the question didn't matter anyway since the company would reimburse the costs, but it should have taken 5 seconds to answer). Since the folks on this call are in three separate offices (plus some who may be WFH), these meetings are often just an opportunity for everyone to have face time with each other.
I mean, I don't know. We do that at work also, sometimes in meetings, often in interviews. I just see it as a modern version of talking to the student next to you while the professor lectures.
If it's done to excess, I can see it as a problem, but otherwise, *shrugs*
Exactly.
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My coworker used to side message people in our meetings to try and get them to laugh. He got me so good one time I had to turn off my video/mic. One time one of the network engineers started laughing in a meeting and his manager who was running the meeting asked what was so funny, his response "the chats" which got everyone else to burst out laughing because we all knew exactly who was messaging him. I can't condone this stuff, but it's a rare instance when it's just so funny to see it happen.
We do this to each other occasionally. I cannot lie.
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My coworker used to side message people in our meetings to try and get them to laugh. He got me so good one time I had to turn off my video/mic. One time one of the network engineers started laughing in a meeting and his manager who was running the meeting asked what was so funny, his response "the chats" which got everyone else to burst out laughing because we all knew exactly who was messaging him. I can't condone this stuff, but it's a rare instance when it's just so funny to see it happen.
We do this to each other occasionally. I cannot lie.
Absolutely. I love testing peoples' poker faces. Some are good, others ... not so much.
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My coworker used to side message people in our meetings to try and get them to laugh. He got me so good one time I had to turn off my video/mic. One time one of the network engineers started laughing in a meeting and his manager who was running the meeting asked what was so funny, his response "the chats" which got everyone else to burst out laughing because we all knew exactly who was messaging him. I can't condone this stuff, but it's a rare instance when it's just so funny to see it happen.
We do this to each other occasionally. I cannot lie.
Absolutely. I love testing peoples' poker faces. Some are good, others ... not so much.
Mines terrible. I'm an easy get. I would log off slack if I felt like I was going to be tested during a meeting :lol
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Bigus......
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:lol
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“He has a wife you know…”
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Fun fact about that scene: the extras were told they would be fired if they couldn't keep a straight face, so the efforts are quite real.
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Which movie is that?
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I don't think the problem is Teams itself. I think I understand Skeever/Chino's original dislike is that you go onto a meeting and you are still getting messaged on the side distracting you from the meeting.
Yes, that's it. Sometimes I get messaged by people who are in the same meeting as me. It's crazy. Aren't you supposed to be paying attention, taking notes, contributing? Why are we wasting our time here, if not?
I hate the messaging aspect of Teams, and I hated Skype before it. If I'm in a meeting, I ignore messages until the meeting is done. Sometimes the meetings are stupid and I don't really need to pay attention, but most of the time I need to know what's going on so I can do what needs to be done after.
Most of my work requires specific documentation and there's a process that has to be done, and asking me in Teams is not part of that process. So I've taken to reminding people of that process once, and then ignoring them on Teams after that. Occasionally I'll also get a "Hi Lethean!" message on Teams, which I ignore. Tell me what you want, or else leave me alone.
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Most of the time, that's just a polite way of asking "are you there?"
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I'm very much against the fake small talk in work chat. I know you aren't messaging me to see how my day is going, you need something. Just get to the point. I don't mind the "hi cram" but I do get annoyed when the hello isn't followed up with the point of you contacting me. Just spit it out.
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Exactly! I don't mind the hello if it's followed by something else immediately after. But don't make me ask what you want, just say it. And sometimes they never do, so I guess it wasn't that important. (And it never is).
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I hate the "HI Xizor" on Teams as well. Just ask the question. You don't need to know if I'm active or not, I'll get back to you when I can.
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Which movie is that?
Google Lens says it's Monty Python's Life of Brian.
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Fun fact about that scene: the extras were told they would be fired if they couldn't keep a straight face, so the efforts are quite real.
I guess that didn't apply to Palin because it was his nearly losing it that caused the centurion to nearly lose it. I know Palin and Idol were both prone to corpsing. Not like Tim Conway or anything, but they would blow it from time to time. Idol biting on his scythe during the witch-duck scene was him trying not to ruin the take.
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Stuff like the work chat greeting seems more like a matter of common courtesy than anything. I sent a ton of internal emails and 99% of the time I present them in a way as if I were emailing one of my customers (the 1% is if I am aggravated that something is going wrong and I need a quick answer from a co-worker :lol). It's just a good habit.
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Which movie is that?
Google Lens says it's Monty Python's Life of Brian.
What's a google lens?
in 5, 4, 3, 2. . .
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My coworker used to side message people in our meetings to try and get them to laugh. He got me so good one time I had to turn off my video/mic. One time one of the network engineers started laughing in a meeting and his manager who was running the meeting asked what was so funny, his response "the chats" which got everyone else to burst out laughing because we all knew exactly who was messaging him. I can't condone this stuff, but it's a rare instance when it's just so funny to see it happen.
We do this to each other occasionally. I cannot lie.
We do this too. I love Teams, with one exception:
When you're on a broader call, like a presentation, and it ends and everyone feels the need to Teams out "Thank you!", so I get 45 message saying "Thank you!" that I do not need popping up on the screen.
I gave a training the other week and I specifically said at the end "I hope you enjoyed this, I hope you got something out of it, but even if you didn't, I want to leave you with one gentle request: DO NOT ALL OF YOU RUN OFF AND PUT THANK YOU IN THE TEAMS CHAT!" Everyone laughed. One person still sent a "Thank you" in the Teams chat (not 100% sure if they were serious or busting my balls).
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I hate the "HI Xizor" on Teams as well. Just ask the question. You don't need to know if I'm active or not, I'll get back to you when I can.
(https://i.imgur.com/mCnirp6.jpg)
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We do this too. I love Teams, with one exception:
When you're on a broader call, like a presentation, and it ends and everyone feels the need to Teams out "Thank you!", so I get 45 message saying "Thank you!" that I do not need popping up on the screen.
I don't like leaving a thank you from a customer hanging, so I am the one who will always give a you're welcome response, but the advantage is when there are multiple email chains. They might email back a thank you in three different chains, and I will reply to just one with, "You're welcome (x3)," and that has always worked nicely.
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Which movie is that?
Google Lens says it's Monty Python's Life of Brian.
What's a google lens?
in 5, 4, 3, 2. . .
Hah, I actually have never heard of Google LENS, but I took it as a generic reference to look it up on google.
I was never into Monty Python so I wasn't familiar with the scene.
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I was never into Monty Python so I wasn't familiar with the scene.
I am impressed that you have actually heard of Monty Python.
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Hah, I actually have never heard of Google LENS, but I took it as a generic reference to look it up on google.
If you right click on an image (including a gif), one of your options will be "Search image with Google Lens." It's sort of a reverse Google image search (and I'm assuming it's only available if you're using a mouse).
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I've never seen that option. I do have an option of "Search The Web For Image" though.
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Sounds like it's the same thing.
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When my kid asks Alexa a question repeatedly, getting more and more frustrated each time, because she either isn't asking the question the right way or because Alexa isn't understanding her, instead of just looking it up online.
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When my kid asks Alexa a question repeatedly, getting more and more frustrated each time, because she either isn't asking the question the right way or because Alexa isn't understanding her, instead of just looking it up online.
You have an Alexa?
Why?
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Gift from MiL. She loves hers and figured we needed one.
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Gift from MiL.
Say no more. :lol
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When my kid asks Alexa a question repeatedly, getting more and more frustrated each time, because she either isn't asking the question the right way or because Alexa isn't understanding her, instead of just looking it up online.
You have an Alexa?
Why?
TAC pm your address, we have a few unopened alexa's and google home's we've gotten as gifts over the years, you'd love it :lol
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Tim with an Alexa:
“Alexa! Who TF is Aaron Carter?”
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Alexa, WTF is Alexa?
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Tim with an Alexa:
“Alexa! Who TF is Aaron Carter?”
I don't know if this is still true but you can go on amazon's site and hear the recordings of every time you call Alexa; I would $300 to hear a years worth of recordings of Tim talking to Alexa.
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Tim with an Alexa:
“Alexa! Who TF is Aaron Carter?”
Cris Carter's brother?
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Tim with an Alexa:
“Alexa! Who TF is Aaron Carter?”
Cris Carter's brother?
Tell me why?
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AINT NOTHIN' BUT A HEARTACHE
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Tell me why?
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Ain't nothing but a mistake
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Tell me why?
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I'm never gonna hear you say...
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Love you guys! :lol
Aaron Carter is the brother of another Carter from a boy band. It's zero surprise that he's dead. He's been fucked up for a long time.
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You afraid to say the name of the boy band Tim? :lol
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Can't put my finger on it at the moment.. :lol
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Lol
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Love you guys! :lol
Aaron Carter is the brother of another Carter from a boy band. It's zero surprise that he's dead. He's been fucked up for a long time.
Oh. Ok, now I feel bad.
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He has been but what we did was pointing out who his brother is.
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Love you guys! :lol
Aaron Carter is the brother of another Carter from a boy band. It's zero surprise that he's dead. He's been fucked up for a long time.
So...he's from 98 New Backstreet Kids? Seriously...you could've given my 100 guesses and I likely wouldn't have guessed. I take it his name came up because he died recently?
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His older brother is in Backstreet Boys. Nick Carter.
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Speaking of "mildly irritating"...
"I was today years old when I found out...."
For fuck's sake, really? Drives me crazy.
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Today years old? I've never heard that phrase before.
I even checked google lens. ;D
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Speaking of "mildly irritating"...
"I was today years old when I found out...."
For fuck's sake, really? Drives me crazy.
I've never heard that before. That doesn't make any sense.
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Speaking of "mildly irritating"...
"I was today years old when I found out...."
For fuck's sake, really? Drives me crazy.
I've never heard that before. That doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, I was today years old when I heard that.
Did I do that right, Paul? ;D
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Speaking of "mildly irritating"...
"I was today years old when I found out...."
For fuck's sake, really? Drives me crazy.
I hate that shit. I really do. I get slang and lingo, but TO ME there's a smarminess and snarkiness to a lot of the slang these days that to me isn't fun.
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Speaking of "mildly irritating"...
"I was today years old when I found out...."
For fuck's sake, really? Drives me crazy.
I've never heard that before. That doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, I was today years old when I heard that.
Did I do that right, Paul? ;D
Yup...it's usually used in connection with something that the writer has just learned that most everyone has known for a long time - e.g., "I was today years old when I learned who Aaron Carter is."
I hate that shit. I really do. I get slang and lingo, but TO ME there's a smarminess and snarkiness to a lot of the slang these days that to me isn't fun.
I don't know if that's it (for me), but there's a host of modern slang (and even stuff that isn't slang) that seems intentionally designed to do violence to proper grammar.
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pg, I know you'll agree but everything seems to be clickbait these days. Everything is like reading Star Magazine online.
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I use that phrase all the time when I learn something new.
You guys are old. ;D :angel:
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I kind of like "today years old"
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I was "yesterday years old". I am "today years old". I will be "tomorrow years old". :p :lol
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I never use the phrase as I personally don't care for it, but it hasn't really bothered me when others use it.
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I sometimes think that, if I were to time travel 100 years into the future, I would have no ability to communicate with anyone (in the same way that old English is incomprehensible to us).
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But I think what we forget is that there is a fine line between the general aging of a language/communication. - the difference between the Declaration of Independence and a contract today - and the sudden fads that pop up. How many of us now hear people from the '60s talk in hippie slang and laugh? I'm "today years old" or "that's how I adult!" are the "hey man, that is groovy, man" of yesterday.
I haven't had to say it in a while, but for a period there, from about 2016 to about 2018 I was really bummed, like REALLY bummed, that we were going to have a Presidential Library, whose main content was 140-characters or less tweets. Compare and contrast the hundreds of letters from John Adams to both his lovely wife and to his main political counterpoint, Thomas Jefferson with that of "Cofeve".
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But I think what we forget is that there is a fine line between the general aging of a language/communication. - the difference between the Declaration of Independence and a contract today - and the sudden fads that pop up. How many of us now hear people from the '60s talk in hippie slang and laugh? I'm "today years old" or "that's how I adult!" are the "hey man, that is groovy, man" of yesterday.
And before that is was "gimme some skin", "square", "don't flip your wig", "bumping gums", "dog soup" and "soiled my pantaloons".
Language and phrases constantly change. At least with "today years old", you know exactly what the person is saying. We're always going to laugh at the verbiage used a few generations ago. I could speak perfect English today and my grandkids' kids will still make fun of it. Way she goes.
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The dictionary does get updated to reflect changes/additions in language
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Speaking of "mildly irritating"...
"I was today years old when I found out...."
For fuck's sake, really? Drives me crazy.
It was funny the first time or two. Now it's fucking everywhere.
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Yup...it's usually used in connection with something that the writer has just learned that most everyone has known for a long time - e.g., "I was today years old when I learned who Aaron Carter is."
This term could quite possibly the most insane and fucking idiotic thing I have ever heard.
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I can’t wait to drop this line in here sometime when it’s least expected.
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Wow, there are some really old motherfuckers posting in this thread, hating the newfangled ways that people talk.
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Wow, there are some really old motherfuckers posting in this thread, hating the newfangled ways that people talk.
You don't like the OLD ways? :biggrin:
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The first time I caught myself sounding like my Dad in this kind of situation, saying something like this, which he would have said about some hip phrase I was using at the time, I slapped myself in the face and said "Never again".
The old ways (proper English grammar) is always going to be there. Phrases and idioms like this are fads that come and go, and rarely hang around for very long.
Now excuse me, I have to pick up some groceries and yeet them into the car.
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I'd like to yeet Yeezy. But Yeezus.
Am I doing this right?
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Now excuse me, I have to pick up some groceries and yeet them into the car.
Hope you're not getting eggs!
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Amazon is going to announce its biggest mass layoff in company history. Meanwhile Bezos has announced he's giving everything to charity. Dolly Parton received 100 million from him. I don't think she needs it. Maybe consider giving everyone who is getting laid off a generous severance and also giving a nice raise to all the Amazon employees who bust their ass every single day.
Geesh.
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Dolly won't keep a cent of that money.
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Dolly won't keep a cent of that money.
I don't believe she is being asked to, it's meant for charity. But the timing of this is just bad optics. I understand work is not charity, but maybe showing some sympathy towards the people who help build/run the company is as important as actual charity.
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Dolly won't keep a cent of that money.
I agree but it seems like an odd choice in conjunction with the current woes at Amazon.
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Dolly won't keep a cent of that money.
I agree but it seems like an odd choice in conjunction with the current woes at Amazon.
No doubt an effort to take some light off the layoffs, but in the interest and within the context of charity, Dolly Parton can do more good with $100M than just about anyone else alive as far as I'm concerned.
Sucks that many people are getting laid off though, but every other major tech company is doing the same. I think a lot of these giants hired like mad during covid to meet a lot of the new demand for "as a service" services. Now that we're returning to normal, that demand and the need for those extra hands in subsiding (I think).
From what I've gathered, a lot of the layoffs are in corporate/tech.
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Yeah the tech sector is getting hit hard with layoffs right now. Facebook and Twitter have been in the news a lot lately for that, now Amazon. I'm sure others are too, and while I haven't heard anything where I work, I wouldn't be surprised to see them coming at some point.
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Yeah, my wife works for a software company that was recently bought out by a different company, and they are going through layoff-o-rama right now.
She seems safe thus far, but we'll see.
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To Brian’s point, maybe the glut from COVID hiring in the tech sector will now be rebalanced to other sectors that are currently hurting (eg, hospitality)?
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Dolly won't keep a cent of that money.
I agree but it seems like an odd choice in conjunction with the current woes at Amazon.
No doubt an effort to take some light off the layoffs, but in the interest and within the context of charity, Dolly Parton can do more good with $100M than just about anyone else alive as far as I'm concerned.
Sucks that many people are getting laid off though, but every other major tech company is doing the same. I think a lot of these giants hired like mad during covid to meet a lot of the new demand for "as a service" services. Now that we're returning to normal, that demand and the need for those extra hands in subsiding (I think).
From what I've gathered, a lot of the layoffs are in corporate/tech.
Agreed. Given her history, she is one rich celebrity we can pretty much trust to do the right thing with that kind of money. She has always given back and then some. She is a super lady.
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Dolly won't keep a cent of that money.
I agree but it seems like an odd choice in conjunction with the current woes at Amazon.
No doubt an effort to take some light off the layoffs, but in the interest and within the context of charity, Dolly Parton can do more good with $100M than just about anyone else alive as far as I'm concerned.
Sucks that many people are getting laid off though, but every other major tech company is doing the same. I think a lot of these giants hired like mad during covid to meet a lot of the new demand for "as a service" services. Now that we're returning to normal, that demand and the need for those extra hands in subsiding (I think).
From what I've gathered, a lot of the layoffs are in corporate/tech.
Agreed. Given her history, she is one rich celebrity we can pretty much trust to do the right thing with that kind of money. She has always given back and then some. She is a super lady.
But how many favorite singer lists has she made?! :biggrin:
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Dolly won't keep a cent of that money.
I agree but it seems like an odd choice in conjunction with the current woes at Amazon.
No doubt an effort to take some light off the layoffs, but in the interest and within the context of charity, Dolly Parton can do more good with $100M than just about anyone else alive as far as I'm concerned.
Sucks that many people are getting laid off though, but every other major tech company is doing the same. I think a lot of these giants hired like mad during covid to meet a lot of the new demand for "as a service" services. Now that we're returning to normal, that demand and the need for those extra hands in subsiding (I think).
From what I've gathered, a lot of the layoffs are in corporate/tech.
Agreed. Given her history, she is one rich celebrity we can pretty much trust to do the right thing with that kind of money. She has always given back and then some. She is a super lady.
But how many favorite singer lists has she made?! :biggrin:
Betcha Elvis was on it. :)
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Lack of pictures for certain types of news.
https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/egypt-temple-cleopatra-lost-tomb-scli-intl-scn/index.html
"The excavation revealed a huge religious center with three sanctuaries, a sacred lake, more than 1,500 objects, busts, statues, golden pieces, a huge collection of coins portraying Alexander the Great, Queen Cleopatra and the Ptolemies," Martinez told CNN.
We don't get to see a single image of any of those things! Why?
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Lack of pictures for certain types of news.
https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/egypt-temple-cleopatra-lost-tomb-scli-intl-scn/index.html
"The excavation revealed a huge religious center with three sanctuaries, a sacred lake, more than 1,500 objects, busts, statues, golden pieces, a huge collection of coins portraying Alexander the Great, Queen Cleopatra and the Ptolemies," Martinez told CNN.
We don't get to see a single image of any of those things! Why?
Because there's likely things in there that completely destroys the Narrative of who they think the Egyptians are. :rollin
I only say that because archaeologists tend to conjure up stories and form their own opinions of what went on in these ruins or various sites they dig up. When there are people that migrated from these ruins that do have stories about these places, but they ignore them and claim it's bogus nonsense stories.
Like how they claim Native Americans didn't have a form of writing, but that's what the petroglyphs are. They're stories and we told them through these petroglyphs, most were also symbols to explain our migration paths.
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I'm not well versed in how Venmo works, and thanks to a fat fingering on my phone's screen, I managed to send $350 to the wrong account. I found the user on Facebook since she used her real name on Venmo, and her reply was "Lol. Sucks. Already sent to my BF. He got it now ✌".
I hope her holidays are terrible.
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I'm not well versed in how Venmo works, and thanks to a fat fingering on my phone's screen, I managed to send $350 to the wrong account. I found the user on Facebook since she used her real name on Venmo, and her reply was "Lol. Sucks. Already sent to my BF. He got it now ✌".
I hope her holidays are terrible.
She realized you accidentally sent her 350 dollars and just refused to return it?
Good lord!
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I'm not well versed in how Venmo works, and thanks to a fat fingering on my phone's screen, I managed to send $350 to the wrong account. I found the user on Facebook since she used her real name on Venmo, and her reply was "Lol. Sucks. Already sent to my BF. He got it now ✌".
I hope her holidays are terrible.
She realized you accidentally sent her 350 dollars and just refused to return it?
Good lord!
The fact that she replied is the most infuriating part of this, even more so than the dollar amount. She had the fucking balls, and in a most gleeful fashion, to admit that she received it and had no intention of returning it. Who does that? Had she just ignored me indefinitely, there'd at least be some kind of peace of mind in me thinking that maybe it went to someone other than the person I messaged.
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Contact Venmo customer service. They may be able to help.
Not to minimize your loss, but why the hell did she give it to her boyfriend?
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Contact Venmo customer service. They may be able to help.
Not to minimize your loss, but why the hell did she give it to her boyfriend?
They can't do anything. I had entered a verification PIN incorrectly, and I accidentally hit the button confirming that I knew that. Next thing I know, I'm out $350. Because of that, they wouldn't issue a refund as it'd basically be a $350 loss for them. They said doing so would make them too open to fraud.
As for the giving it to the boyfriend, I'll be a bit judgmental here based on her and his Facebook profile... drugs is my guess.
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Further proof of our societal decline. A person like that has no conscience whatsoever. Please, karma, strike her down.
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I'm not well versed in how Venmo works, and thanks to a fat fingering on my phone's screen, I managed to send $350 to the wrong account. I found the user on Facebook since she used her real name on Venmo, and her reply was "Lol. Sucks. Already sent to my BF. He got it now ✌".
I hope her holidays are terrible.
What a C Note. People are terrible.
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Brian, what's your venmo? I'd be happy to help out what I can. Holiday season and all.
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The boyfriend is just an excuse so that if you asked further she would say she can't get the money. It's BS and that person will get hit hard via karma. That sucks big time, but it's also a big reason why I'm super careful when I send money on venmo because it's incredibly easy to send it to the wrong person. Sorry Chino.
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Brian, what's your venmo? I'd be happy to help out what I can. Holiday season and all.
Thanks brotherman, but I'm good. Not looking for any charity or anything like that. I'll be fine for the holidays!
Just looking to rant a bit about how awful people can be to others for literally no reason whatsoever. This couldn't have been any more honest of a mistake, and she takes it as an opportunity to not only be a selfish bitch about it, but almost basks in the feeling of it. Almost like it's a mark of pride and a flex.
The girl's FB page is full of pictures of her daughters with their accounts linked. The vindictive asshole in me wants to send them screenshots of the conversation with a comment like "If you get a few extras this year, you have me to thank!", but then I tell myself that'd make me no better than their piece of shit of a mother.
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Tell her you found her on Facebook and you'd be more than happy to ask the police to check out the situation over there. Or she can return the cash no questions asked. Even if the cops can't do anything, if it's that sketchy maybe she doesn't want to be seen as the reason the cops are looking into the boyfriend.
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Agree with Stads. Don't just let it go.
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I'd get in touch with Venmo customer service. I had to use them for another issue and they were very helpful.
I've heard they have protocols for these things. Don't let it go.
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Tell her you found her on Facebook and you'd be more than happy to ask the police to check out the situation over there. Or she can return the cash no questions asked. Even if the cops can't do anything, if it's that sketchy maybe she doesn't want to be seen as the reason the cops are looking into the boyfriend.
Definitely.
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I'm not well versed in how Venmo works, and thanks to a fat fingering on my phone's screen, I managed to send $350 to the wrong account. I found the user on Facebook since she used her real name on Venmo, and her reply was "Lol. Sucks. Already sent to my BF. He got it now ✌".
I hope her holidays are terrible.
Fuck this whore. Fucking disgraceful. I hope her boyfriend uses it on drugs to kill himself.
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Tell her you found her on Facebook and you'd be more than happy to ask the police to check out the situation over there. Or she can return the cash no questions asked. Even if the cops can't do anything, if it's that sketchy maybe she doesn't want to be seen as the reason the cops are looking into the boyfriend.
Nice one Bill.
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Tell her you found her on Facebook and you'd be more than happy to ask the police to check out the situation over there. Or she can return the cash no questions asked. Even if the cops can't do anything, if it's that sketchy maybe she doesn't want to be seen as the reason the cops are looking into the boyfriend.
Or you could go the more diabolical route, and PM the boyfriend to tell him you paid her $350 for her awesome job at your Bachelor Party. Nickname her The Dancing Bearette.
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I'm not well versed in how Venmo works, and thanks to a fat fingering on my phone's screen, I managed to send $350 to the wrong account. I found the user on Facebook since she used her real name on Venmo, and her reply was "Lol. Sucks. Already sent to my BF. He got it now ✌".
I hope her holidays are terrible.
She may be considered horrible for not returning money, and for this I am sympathetic.
But I am wondering why not just own up to your mistake rather than blaming her for it. This is a big reason why I was told by my teachers in school to double check your work. It's not her fault you sent money to the wrong person.
This is one of those things where I say. "I am sorry, but consequences for accidents suck don't they?"
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A decent human being would be apologetic and would return the money. Not tell the person who made the mistake to basically, "Suck it."
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He did own up to his mistake, dude. Terrible take, Ben. Terrible.
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I'm not well versed in how Venmo works, and thanks to a fat fingering on my phone's screen, I managed to send $350 to the wrong account. I found the user on Facebook since she used her real name on Venmo, and her reply was "Lol. Sucks. Already sent to my BF. He got it now ✌".
I hope her holidays are terrible.
She may be considered horrible for not returning money, and for this I am sympathetic.
But I am wondering why not just own up to your mistake rather than blaming her for it. This is a big reason why I was told by my teachers in school to double check your work. It's not her fault you sent money to the wrong person.
This is one of those things where I say. "I am sorry, but consequences for accidents suck don't they?"
Jeesh. And I thought my Why on earth would anyone use a venmo....with their phone?? was a bad take, and therefor decided not to post it...
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Damn... Even Tim is calling you out on that one :lol
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A decent human being would be apologetic and would return the money. Not tell the person who made the mistake to basically, "Suck it."
This is a major reason why I dont like to utilize cash apps. I have only used cash apps with people I know. I make sure it's them and I also make sure that my name is correct for them. Another issue is my phone which freezes at times, but will continue to register my screen presses, and I end up either losing what I write or click a link I don't intend to click. Now that sucks ass, because it's sometimes an ad or some stupid bullshit like that.
And apparently, it's too easy to make mistakes while using these apps, and I guarantee Chino isn't the only one who's fat fingers caused them to send money to the wrong person.
While it does suck he made a mistake and sent money to the wrong person. You really shouldn't expect people to be kind, especially when dealing with money. I would hope and pray someone would be kind enough to return the money, but I won't expect it.
Once that money leaves my hands, it is no longer my money. I am a firm believer of this, because it's the reality of money. I just can only hope the people really needed the funds. And this is only to console myself from my mistake, to make myself feel better. But honestly, I know darn well most people don't use money for things they need. So why get myself worked up and worried about what someone else does with their money. In other words, I won't go asking for it back. If I drop a 20, I can only hope someone tells me I dropped it, which I do when I see it actually fall from the person's pocket.
If you see money and there's no one around, would you take it and keep it, or search and ask around to find out who really dropped the cash? And how would you determine whether someone is lying or not?
How does that girl know Chino isn't lying? That's the part that sucks, because it would involve a big investigation and it involves not only the company but the police. It's why identity fraud sucks a lot, as it's hard to determine if hear say is factual, and why people should keep all their statements and should be consistently monitoring their bank accounts. Or in the case of a cash app, take a screenshot of the person you're sending it to before you send the money, as a form of proof to who you're sending money too.
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I expect people to be honest. That is a crime Ben. Even if it's a mistake. That woman is stealing his money. There's no debate here.
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I expect people to be honest. That is a crime Ben. Even if it's a mistake. That woman is stealing his money. There's no debate here.
Not reading Ben's posts, but I did do a quick google search on this. Can't find any evidence that accepting a venmo sent you by mistake is a crime. Seems legal.
Many posts, however, about how people should NOT refund an accidental venmo cash send because it could be a scam. Doesn't sound like this was her thought process though.
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He did own up to his mistake, dude. Terrible take, Ben. Terrible.
This
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A: Chino owned up to it in a big, big way.
B: He explained that it was her shit attitude that was the problem. She was essentially rubbing it in.
So yeah, bad take.
Also, it's unfortunate but not surprising that if a bank accidentally gives you money (it's happened to me) it's a crime to refuse to give it back. If a citizen does it they're fucked. Gotta make sure we look after the right interests, after all.
I'd probably lean towards Jingle's approach. "Best $350 I've ever spent. A+++++++."
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I expect people to be honest. That is a crime Ben. Even if it's a mistake. That woman is stealing his money. There's no debate here.
Not reading Ben's posts, but I did do a quick google search on this. Can't find any evidence that accepting a venmo sent you by mistake is a crime. Seems legal.
Many posts, however, about how people should NOT refund an accidental venmo cash send because it could be a scam. Doesn't sound like this was her thought process though.
This is a common scam. If anyone accidentally sends you money, you tell them to have Venmo or Paypal or whatever refund it. Do not send it back yourself.
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I expect people to be honest. That is a crime Ben. Even if it's a mistake. That woman is stealing his money. There's no debate here.
Not reading Ben's posts, but I did do a quick google search on this. Can't find any evidence that accepting a venmo sent you by mistake is a crime. Seems legal.
Many posts, however, about how people should NOT refund an accidental venmo cash send because it could be a scam. Doesn't sound like this was her thought process though.
Few years back I received $900 through Zelle (I don't use Venmo). I immediately contacted the bank and told them I did not know the sender and to send it back and the response was "We can't send it back it the money was transferred through a cash app. If the person request the money, We do not recommend you send it back since it could compromise your account and we are not responsible for it. Keep the money in your account and let the sender dispute it with his bank". Few days later articles started coming up that people's accounts were being hacked through this method. I believe Zelle lets you "cancel" the transfer if you send it to the wrong person, I guess Venmo doesn't have that.
I agree with Chino that the frustrating part was that she responded, and was kind of mocking him about it.
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I wonder if she thought Chino was trying to scam her and she was responding the way some of us might to a Nigerian prince. We all know Chino isn't a scammer, but to her, she might just be thinking that she's not going to fall for it.
Edit: or she’s just a dick.
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Adami, you are correct. You have to go back to the bank to get your money back if you have coverage.
I still personally look at it as theft since the female knew it was sent in error. I would spam her face on every sociL media calling her a Thief.
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Adami, you are correct. You have to go back to the bank to get your money back if you have coverage.
I still personally look at it as theft since the female knew it was sent in error. I would spam her face on every sociL media calling her a Thief.
You actually think she has $350 dollars to send Chino his money back? I doubt it if she kept the money. Also, what do you expect her to do about it, if Adami is correct, this would be the banks issue, not hers. And this was advised for him not to return the money back.
I wonder if she thought Chino was trying to scam her and she was responding the way some of us might to a Nigerian prince. We all know Chino isn't a scammer, but to her, she might just be thinking that she's not going to fall for it.
My point exactly. I, and we, do not know this person. So I won't be assuming her character for a mistake I made, because she won't do what I consider to be the moral thing to do.
Isn't taking risks fun... :biggrin:
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I expect her to be a good human and pay back the $350.0p. Not taunt the guy for making a mistake. Ben, if some girl got money by accident from you snd she told you too bad sucka, your be livid.
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BTW, Ben. His name is in the app sending it to her. So she can verify if it's him or not.
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I, and we, do not know this person. So I won't be assuming her character for a mistake I made, because she won't do what I consider to be the moral thing to do.
Fuck that. We know she's a bitch.
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I'm not well versed in how Venmo works, and thanks to a fat fingering on my phone's screen, I managed to send $350 to the wrong account. I found the user on Facebook since she used her real name on Venmo, and her reply was "Lol. Sucks. Already sent to my BF. He got it now ✌".
I hope her holidays are terrible.
She may be considered horrible for not returning money, and for this I am sympathetic.
But I am wondering why not just own up to your mistake rather than blaming her for it. This is a big reason why I was told by my teachers in school to double check your work. It's not her fault you sent money to the wrong person.
This is one of those things where I say. "I am sorry, but consequences for accidents suck don't they?"
What the fuck is wrong with you?
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I'm not well versed in how Venmo works, and thanks to a fat fingering on my phone's screen, I managed to send $350 to the wrong account. I found the user on Facebook since she used her real name on Venmo, and her reply was "Lol. Sucks. Already sent to my BF. He got it now ✌".
I hope her holidays are terrible.
She may be considered horrible for not returning money, and for this I am sympathetic.
But I am wondering why not just own up to your mistake rather than blaming her for it. This is a big reason why I was told by my teachers in school to double check your work. It's not her fault you sent money to the wrong person.
This is one of those things where I say. "I am sorry, but consequences for accidents suck don't they?"
What the fuck is wrong with you?
I was thinking the same thing. It's disgusting that anyone would try to defend this.
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AAUUUGHHHH
For some reason, the student portal is giving me an "access denied" message when I try to log into my Office Suite, which has been working JUST FINE the last two semesters. I don't have access to any of my apps. I've tried logging out, logging back in, reinstalling, using the Microsoft re-activation tool, Microsoft login fixer application, and NOTHING. I've spent the past few days struggling with this, and I finally did something I HATE DOING. I called my college's tech support and now have an open ticket.
I have assignments due, so now I'm stuck using OnlyOffice. I mean, it's not bad, but it's not the interface I'm used to.
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It's scenarios like this that make me lament the move towards cloud services and SAAS.
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I wonder if she thought Chino was trying to scam her and she was responding the way some of us might to a Nigerian prince. We all know Chino isn't a scammer, but to her, she might just be thinking that she's not going to fall for it.
Edit: or she’s just a dick.
She is just a bitch in my opinion but there is a scam out there (I think mainly with zelle but I could be wrong) where you'll get money sent to you and then be asked for it back. I'm not sure if Zelle (or venmo) have found a way around this but it was a thing for a bit.
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It's scenarios like this that make me lament the move towards cloud services and SAAS.
For real. Does Office even offer a one-time payment version anymore?
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It's scenarios like this that make me lament the move towards cloud services and SAAS.
For real. Does Office even offer a one-time payment version anymore?
Doubt it. But you can have a local copy of the applications on your computer.
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It's scenarios like this that make me lament the move towards cloud services and SAAS.
For real. Does Office even offer a one-time payment version anymore?
Not 365 but you can get 2021 for pretty cheap here: https://shop.popsci.com/sales/microsoft-office-professional-plus-2021-for-windows?utm_source=popsci.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=microsoft-office-professional-plus-2021-for-windows&utm_term=scsf-542108&utm_content=a0x1P000004VDzoQAG&scsonar=1
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The Adderall shortage.
So I started taking like 9 months ago and it completely changed my life. I've been able to focus and feel normal. Like it's amazing.
Anyways there's been a shortage for a while, and that combined with the fact that it's a federally regulated drug (lol amphetamines), makes it a huge pain in the ass to get. It can only be filled every 30 days... Which gives me a very small window to get it filled before I thn out. Add in the fact that once I am able to try to fill it, I have to play the game of "what can the pharmacy get ahold of and have my doctor adjust my Rx to March that (luckily I have 2 different doses I take through out the day and can adjust a little depending on what's going on... As well as use my smaller afternoon dose pills as a replacement for my larger extended release dose I take in the morning...)
Currently I'm sitting at my pharmacy while the scramble to try to figure out the puzzle needed to get me my meds. I'm just lucky that the new pharmacist here actually gives a shit. The pharmacist here (Walmart... Yea I know) used to just blow shit off...
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We live in a world where you post a password joke meme with a soccer players last name and your called a racist for it. Chad and RJ know about it. The guy knows me. I was so upset about it I didn't sleep well last night.
I think my past history shows I'm not that. The world we live in these days.
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We live in a world where you post a password joke meme with a soccer players last name and your called a racist for it. Chad and RJ know about it. The guy knows me. I was so upset about it I didn't sleep well last night.
I think my past history shows I'm not that. The world we live in these days.
Imo, I think the response is more a reflection of the person making it (insecurities), rather than you.
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I know but it bugged me all night since he knows me. I've never done something like that and he should have known that.
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What are we talking about?
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What are we talking about?
Texted it to you.
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What are we talking about?
Texted it to you.
When you say you know him, do you know him personally or an online friend?
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What are we talking about?
Texted it to you.
When you say you know him, do you know him personally or an online friend?
He's friends with Mason DTVT and have had dinner a few times before DT shows. We've talked a lot online. Tim, do you think I'm that type of person? I know I'm not so it shocked me a bit. I try to post silly stuff online. Life is too serious. I know you know that. It hurt me a bit. I know like Chad said it's on him but it hurt to read.
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Any chance he wasn't being serious, and just busting your balls? Did you reach out to him?
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is this something I can see somewhere? I know Joe to be a kind, caring man. The internet is a cesspool at times; sounds like this is one of them.
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Any chance he wasn't being serious, and just busting your balls? Did you reach out to him?
I did but no response. He's in San Fran with his wife.
Stads. I'm PM on Twitter to you.
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Joe, fuck him them. If he can't take a joke. If he had a problem, he should've said something to you privately.
Seriously, calling you out in public was a douche move. Friends should be able to let someone know of they've overstepped their boundaries.
He hung you out to dry. Fuck him!
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I agree Tim. I was upset and mad about it.
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I saw that on FB and thought it was hilarious. Nothing racist about it, or about you.
I don't think this person really knows what "racist" means.
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I saw that on FB and thought it was hilarious. Nothing racist about it, or about you.
I don't think this person really knows what "racist" means.
I'm with Hef on this one. I'm quarter Polack on my dad's side (my dad spoke only Polish until he went to grade school) and I think that's funny as hell.
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I saw that on FB and thought it was hilarious. Nothing racist about it, or about you.
I don't think this person really knows what "racist" means.
I'm with Hef on this one. I'm quarter Polack on my dad's side (my dad spoke only Polish until he went to grade school) and I think that's funny as hell.
:tup
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Went over to facebook....
:lol (I'm part Polish myself)
I wouldn't get too beat up over it, people are stupid
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The Adderall shortage.
So I started taking like 9 months ago and it completely changed my life. I've been able to focus and feel normal. Like it's amazing.
Anyways there's been a shortage for a while, and that combined with the fact that it's a federally regulated drug (lol amphetamines), makes it a huge pain in the ass to get. It can only be filled every 30 days... Which gives me a very small window to get it filled before I thn out. Add in the fact that once I am able to try to fill it, I have to play the game of "what can the pharmacy get ahold of and have my doctor adjust my Rx to March that (luckily I have 2 different doses I take through out the day and can adjust a little depending on what's going on... As well as use my smaller afternoon dose pills as a replacement for my larger extended release dose I take in the morning...)
Currently I'm sitting at my pharmacy while the scramble to try to figure out the puzzle needed to get me my meds. I'm just lucky that the new pharmacist here actually gives a shit. The pharmacist here (Walmart... Yea I know) used to just blow shit off...
That's why the cool kids just do meth. Cheaper and easier to get. :lol
The trick to scheduled narcotics is to squirrel a few away every month. Find days or times when you can skip a dose and do so. Maybe you can skip a weekend day or something. Still refill it every 30 days. If you figure out a pattern you can get a decent supply for rainy days built up pretty quickly. Anybody with a Xanax prescription has mastered the art of stockpiling. :lol
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So I went on Twitter (thanks, Joe!), and now I'm exasperated. First, I'm officially on the "political tweets are a waste of humanity". These people are morons; they are completely ignorant of the irony of them "standing for democracy" while trying to deny that very same thing to people whose opinions they don't approve. And second, I'm officially on the "Americans are just NOT THAT FUNNY" bandwagon. I saw a Tweet about the guy that took the picture of the iron workers sitting on the girder in New York, and every third tweet was some equally un-funny variation on "hey, I want to see a picture of the guy taking the picture of the guy taking the picture of the guys sitting on the iron beam". WTF. Don't you have something better to do?
The Chinese are laughing at us.
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So I went on Twitter (thanks, Joe!), and now I'm exasperated. First, I'm officially on the "political tweets are a waste of humanity". These people are morons; they are completely ignorant of the irony of them "standing for democracy" while trying to deny that very same thing to people whose opinions they don't approve. And second, I'm officially on the "Americans are just NOT THAT FUNNY" bandwagon. I saw a Tweet about the guy that took the picture of the iron workers sitting on the girder in New York, and every third tweet was some equally un-funny variation on "hey, I want to see a picture of the guy taking the picture of the guy taking the picture of the guys sitting on the iron beam". WTF. Don't you have something better to do?
The Chinese are laughing at us.
Don't limit it to just the Chinese. That's racist! :lol :lol :lol jk, of course.
But seriously, it's not just the Chinese. It'd be an even better laugh if so many of the moronic things to laugh at you (US) about weren't also bleeding into the culture up here.
(https://media.tenor.com/images/07a8ddd7bf7de5ab9ea7a66ea66ceb2d/tenor.gif)
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Considering China blocks twitter, no they aren't laughing at us about that :biggrin:
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I don't think most even know what racism is anymore. It's just a buzzword, a catchphrase to most.
Like Tim said, Joe, fuck that guy. Tell him to fuck himself, unfriend him and move on.
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The Adderall shortage.
So I started taking like 9 months ago and it completely changed my life. I've been able to focus and feel normal. Like it's amazing.
Anyways there's been a shortage for a while, and that combined with the fact that it's a federally regulated drug (lol amphetamines), makes it a huge pain in the ass to get. It can only be filled every 30 days... Which gives me a very small window to get it filled before I thn out. Add in the fact that once I am able to try to fill it, I have to play the game of "what can the pharmacy get ahold of and have my doctor adjust my Rx to March that (luckily I have 2 different doses I take through out the day and can adjust a little depending on what's going on... As well as use my smaller afternoon dose pills as a replacement for my larger extended release dose I take in the morning...)
Currently I'm sitting at my pharmacy while the scramble to try to figure out the puzzle needed to get me my meds. I'm just lucky that the new pharmacist here actually gives a shit. The pharmacist here (Walmart... Yea I know) used to just blow shit off...
That's why the cool kids just do meth. Cheaper and easier to get. :lol
The trick to scheduled narcotics is to squirrel a few away every month. Find days or times when you can skip a dose and do so. Maybe you can skip a weekend day or something. Still refill it every 30 days. If you figure out a pattern you can get a decent supply for rainy days built up pretty quickly. Anybody with a Xanax prescription has mastered the art of stockpiling. :lol
Oh believe me... I stockpile as much as I can, but my reserves are running low :lol
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I don't think most even know what racism is anymore. It's just a buzzword, a catchphrase to most.
Like Tim said, Joe, fuck that guy. Tell him to fuck himself, unfriend him and move on.
Is was so out of left field so it saw shocking to me. I'd rather be a thorn in his side now seeing my silly posts and let his head spin.
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On the subject of "a tad exasperating"/"mildly irritating":
Buying a box of taco shells and finding that literally half of them are broken to the point of being usable as taco shells. I can still put them in a bowl with the meat and other stuff, but if I wanted that, I'd have bought a bag of tortilla chips.
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On the subject of "a tad exasperating"/"mildly irritating":
Buying a box of taco shells and finding that literally half of them are broken to the point of being usable as taco shells. I can still put them in a bowl with the meat and other stuff, but if I wanted that, I'd have bought a bag of tortilla chips.
Yeah, I've had that happen a few times. Very frustrating.
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I don't think most even know what racism is anymore. It's just a buzzword, a catchphrase to most.
Several podcasts I listen to have hosts that seem to have bought into the "zero tolerance" mindset (for lack of a better phrase) and when bringing up old media, pictures, stories, etc. and looking at them through a 2022 lens there's a ton of things where the reaction is "oof, that's a bit problematic..." and the like. I'm not talking about egregious examples of racism and stereotyping since most levelheaded people would agree on those but there seems to be a very low bar for what is considered racist nowadays.
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I don't think most even know what racism is anymore. It's just a buzzword, a catchphrase to most.
Like Tim said, Joe, fuck that guy. Tell him to fuck himself, unfriend him and move on.
Yup, I agree. Most don't even feel that non-white, non-conservative, non-male humans can be racist as well. And it's only white, conservative, males that can exhibit Racism.
Racism is weird though because people think a persons "Race" is based on skin color and that is just not true at all. Race is a term to divide and categorize people into groups that share similar traits. This is why even though people can share the same skin tone, they might not identify as being of same race. I know many people who have light skin tone and identify as being Native American, this is because tribe recognizes them as being a member of the tribe, and every Native Tribe has their own ways to determine Tribal Eligibility.
It's the same with Jewish people, they're apparently supposed to be brown in skin color, but yet they have many light skin Jews such as Ben Shapiro. Are they considered "White" people? I don't classify based on skin color, I classify based on identity, and I won't know unless I ask someone.
This is why I really am exasperated with Gender Identity and those that expect me to automatically assume thier gender. I can't read peoples minds, so if I notice, I'll ask. Only after asking and confirming my assumptions, will I classify a person as being however they identify.
Human psychology and behavior is very fascinating to me.
King, don't sweat about it. If you know you are not a racist, don't let anyone bring you down over a joke. A great quote I love is, "If you can't laugh at yourself."
It's true, it's true. We're so lame. (https://youtu.be/tD3Rn-K2wOI)
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I don't think most even know what racism is anymore. It's just a buzzword, a catchphrase to most.
Several podcasts I listen to have hosts that seem to have bought into the "zero tolerance" mindset (for lack of a better phrase) and when bringing up old media, pictures, stories, etc. and looking at them through a 2022 lens there's a ton of things where the reaction is "oof, that's a bit problematic..." and the like. I'm not talking about egregious examples of racism and stereotyping since most levelheaded people would agree on those but there seems to be a very low bar for what is considered racist nowadays.
"Zero tolerance" to me, these days, reads as "I don't want to have to explain myself, so toe the line or GTFO." More divisiveness, more exclusivity, more "you're with us or you're against us".
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Did I somehow stumble through a wormhole to the P/R section of the site?
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On the subject of "a tad exasperating"/"mildly irritating":
Buying a box of taco shells and finding that literally half of them are broken to the point of being usable as taco shells. I can still put them in a bowl with the meat and other stuff, but if I wanted that, I'd have bought a bag of tortilla chips.
Or trying to make your taco and it breaks when you place the stuff into it. Or you bite into it and the entire shell comes apart leaving you with a pile.
That's the only reason I don't really like eating tacos, because then I start thinking "what is the point of the taco shell".
Now street tacos on the other hand, have amazing taco shells because they come flat and are easy to fold.
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On the subject of "a tad exasperating"/"mildly irritating":
Buying a box of taco shells and finding that literally half of them are broken to the point of being usable as taco shells. I can still put them in a bowl with the meat and other stuff, but if I wanted that, I'd have bought a bag of tortilla chips.
Or trying to make your taco and it breaks when you place the stuff into it. Or you bite into it and the entire shell comes apart leaving you with a pile.
That's the only reason I don't really like eating tacos, because then I start thinking "what is the point of the taco shell".
Now street tacos on the other hand, have amazing taco shells because they come flat and are easy to fold.
I can usually manage to keep the shell together for about 3 bites. The last couple bites are a bit of a challenge. Sometimes we get corn tortillas and fry them ourselves, but that's (a) a bit of a hassle and (b) a completely different taste. Sometimes the store bought hard shells are just what you want.
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I've moved to soft tacos over the years.
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Definitely soft tacos.
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I don't think most even know what racism is anymore. It's just a buzzword, a catchphrase to most.
Several podcasts I listen to have hosts that seem to have bought into the "zero tolerance" mindset (for lack of a better phrase) and when bringing up old media, pictures, stories, etc. and looking at them through a 2022 lens there's a ton of things where the reaction is "oof, that's a bit problematic..." and the like. I'm not talking about egregious examples of racism and stereotyping since most levelheaded people would agree on those but there seems to be a very low bar for what is considered racist nowadays.
"Zero tolerance" to me, these days, reads as "I don't want to have to explain myself, so toe the line or GTFO." More divisiveness, more exclusivity, more "you're with us or you're against us".
Agreed. I also hate the "silence is complicity" BS line that some love to trot out these days. No, silence is not complicity. Some people just want to live their lives and not be dragged into every social justice fight.
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On the subject of "a tad exasperating"/"mildly irritating":
Buying a box of taco shells and finding that literally half of them are broken to the point of being usable as taco shells. I can still put them in a bowl with the meat and other stuff, but if I wanted that, I'd have bought a bag of tortilla chips.
Or trying to make your taco and it breaks when you place the stuff into it. Or you bite into it and the entire shell comes apart leaving you with a pile.
That's the only reason I don't really like eating tacos, because then I start thinking "what is the point of the taco shell".
Now street tacos on the other hand, have amazing taco shells because they come flat and are easy to fold.
I can usually manage to keep the shell together for about 3 bites. The last couple bites are a bit of a challenge. Sometimes we get corn tortillas and fry them ourselves, but that's (a) a bit of a hassle and (b) a completely different taste. Sometimes the store bought hard shells are just what you want.
Yup...We usually like to get the blue corn taco shells. Because they're blue corn, they taste better to me. :biggrin:
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Some people just want to live their lives and not be dragged into every social justice fight.
If only oppressed minorities had that option. In any case, silence may or may not be complicity, but it certainly makes the job of people who are complicit much easier.
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Some people just want to live their lives and not be dragged into every social justice fight.
If only oppressed minorities had that option. In any case, silence may or may not be complicity, but it certainly makes the job of people who are complicit much easier.
What are you, fucking Superman flying in and out of every conflict? Have you dedicated your life to fighting oppression? Or on some days do you just want to live your own life as it were?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
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You can't make your Ivory Tower comments to Kev, and then get all defensive when it gets turned back on you.
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I felt hurt that the guy thought it was an attack. I figured my past history would prove that. There are memes I've seen that I definitely wouldn't post because it could be biting. I try to always be careful about it.
Maybe he had a bad day or felt it an attack but he should have PM'd me since he knew me.
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You can't make your Ivory Tower comments to Kev, and then get all defensive when it gets turned back on you.
Your flaw is assuming that I believe that I am non-complicit. In any case, my reply to you was a comment on the quality of your argument, not my character (i.e. I could be a raging hypocrite and still be correct.)
The concept of silence/apathy enabling bad people is not even a new concept or argument. John Stuart Mills was saying such in 1867.
Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.
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OK. Now I'm confused. Whatever.
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Don't bother, Tim. It's a waste of time and energy.
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OK. Now I'm confused. Whatever.
Well, if you'd like me to clarify things over PM, let me know.
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We live in a world where you post a password joke meme with a soccer players last name and your called a racist for it. Chad and RJ know about it. The guy knows me. I was so upset about it I didn't sleep well last night.
I think my past history shows I'm not that. The world we live in these days.
No idea what this is really all about besides what's here but from the short time I've really gotten to know you more Joe, I don't need to know what this is about to know you're a fucking fine person with a heart of gold and no traces of anything like this in you.
Don't lose sleep over shit people mate that just simply talk shit. Fuck them!
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I've moved to soft tacos over the years.
Definitely soft tacos.
You can both get medication for that, eh?
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I've moved to soft tacos over the years.
Definitely soft tacos.
You can both get medication for that, eh?
Why not both?
(https://blogchef.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/double_decker_tacos_0.jpg.webp)
This is how I make tacos. No beans for me though, I use sour cream.
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I like those at restaurants. I tend to be lazy at home. LOL
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Hard taco in the soft taco is where it's at. I had a couple of them with ground turkey last night! (once you put on all the taco seasonings that come in the kits, as well as the other fixings, the ground turkey doesn't taste much different than beef)
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I've moved to soft tacos over the years.
Definitely soft tacos.
You can both get medication for that, eh?
Wrong genitalia, chief.
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Hard and soft tacos each have their place. For the make at home variety crunchy is typically the way to go. At Tex-mex places I'll occasionally get a crunchy taco, usually if it comes with a combo I'm interested in. Mexican tacos are obviously soft. I think the disconnect for me is using crappy flour tortillas for soft tacos. The store bought variety are generally too big, too thick, and too tasteless to work right. All you taste is bland tortilla. Really good, hand made flour tortillas are fine, though. And of course for Mexican tacos they have to be corn.
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Hard and soft tacos each have their place. For the make at home variety crunchy is typically the way to go. At Tex-mex places I'll occasionally get a crunchy taco, usually if it comes with a combo I'm interested in. Mexican tacos are obviously soft. I think the disconnect for me is using crappy flour tortillas for soft tacos. The store bought variety are generally too big, too thick, and too tasteless to work right. All you taste is bland tortilla. Really good, hand made flour tortillas are fine, though. And of course for Mexican tacos they have to be corn.
It could be entirely in my head, but I swear taking those bland tortillas and just throwing them in a hot pan for a few seconds on each side so they brown a bit does wonders for the flavor.
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Nothing beats fresh tortillas but that's only restaurants up here in N.E. I'm too lazy to try at home.
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I go for soft tacos at home. Just easier and the tortillas are more versatile to use for other types of wraps than the hard taco shells that, as discussed, often break. I also don't like corn tortillas so flour is the way to go for me, I enjoy the La Banderita brand the most. The cheap store brand ones suck.
But the double shell is awesome. I used to love the double decker tacos at taco bell so I would often make those at home myself.
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Hard and soft tacos each have their place. For the make at home variety crunchy is typically the way to go. At Tex-mex places I'll occasionally get a crunchy taco, usually if it comes with a combo I'm interested in. Mexican tacos are obviously soft. I think the disconnect for me is using crappy flour tortillas for soft tacos. The store bought variety are generally too big, too thick, and too tasteless to work right. All you taste is bland tortilla. Really good, hand made flour tortillas are fine, though. And of course for Mexican tacos they have to be corn.
It could be entirely in my head, but I swear taking those bland tortillas and just throwing them in a hot pan for a few seconds on each side so they brown a bit does wonders for the flavor.
Not in your head. It's a definite improvement. It's still a massive downgrade from good quality tortillas.
Thankfully, down here plenty of grocery stores, Mexican and otherwise, make fresh tortillas throughout the day. Surprisingly, Kroger's probably makes the best of them. If you need tortillas you just stop on the way home, just like you might stop to get a loaf of bred.
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It could be entirely in my head, but I swear taking those bland tortillas and just throwing them in a hot pan for a few seconds on each side so they brown a bit does wonders for the flavor.
Yeah, you definitely want to heat up the store bought ones to revitalise them. Oddly enough, Sweden doesn't have an extremely active authentic mexican scene so store bought dominates. You'd be horrified at what the Swedes call "Tacos". :P
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It could be entirely in my head, but I swear taking those bland tortillas and just throwing them in a hot pan for a few seconds on each side so they brown a bit does wonders for the flavor.
Yeah, you definitely want to heat up the store bought ones to revitalise them. Oddly enough, Sweden doesn't have an extremely active authentic mexican scene. You'd be horrified at what the Swedes call "Tacos". :P
Let's see if I can deduce.
I knew a Norwegian guy who would call Swede's Norwegian Mexicans....so....they would call normal sandwiches tacos?
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No, they call them Smörgås or Macka. And there is also such as thing as smörgåståta, or "Sandwich Cake" for reasons that will only be answered when I die.
(https://i.imgur.com/Y7Jhj0p.png)
Swedish tacos basically have pretty bland ground beef filling as the base, and then mostly fresh tomatoes and salad, and salad cheese/feta.
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I can't tell if that looks absolutely disgusting or absolutely amazing :lol
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Looking at that thing hurts my soul.
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I mean its essentially all the ingredients of a decent sandwich (albeit with mayo, the inferior sandwich spread), so it tastes fine. I just really fail to see the appeal in taking a food designed to be simple to eat with one hand, and making it into a knife and fork affair.
I can't tell if that looks absolutely disgusting or absolutely amazing :lol
The answer is, of course, "yes".
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I've moved to soft tacos over the years.
Definitely soft tacos.
You can both get medication for that, eh?
Wrong genitalia, chief.
Touche.
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I mean its essentially all the ingredients of a decent sandwich (albeit with mayo, the inferior sandwich spread), so it tastes fine. I just really fail to see the appeal in taking a food designed to be simple to eat with one hand, and making it into a knife and fork affair.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/ff449cd6e93421e75bca3ac2837a0f0e/7b5448fc21a907cb-92/s640x960/caf8cac77a40ae7f35576064cc925c54c081d0ca.gif)
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I've moved to soft tacos over the years.
Definitely soft tacos.
You can both get medication for that, eh?
Why not both?
(https://blogchef.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/double_decker_tacos_0.jpg.webp)
This is how I make tacos. No beans for me though, I use sour cream.
Taco Bell makes (or used to make) something like that called a double decker taco (essentially a regular hard shell taco wrapped with a soft taco shell with refried beans). I've done it at home, and it absolutely solves the problem of a broken hard shell. However, the beans tend to compromise the crunchiness of the hard shell, so the last couple bites aren't always great.
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I've moved to soft tacos over the years.
Definitely soft tacos.
You can both get medication for that, eh?
Er...still soft. :lol
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Happens to the best of us.
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I've moved to soft tacos over the years.
Definitely soft tacos.
You can both get medication for that, eh?
Why not both?
(https://blogchef.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/double_decker_tacos_0.jpg.webp)
This is how I make tacos. No beans for me though, I use sour cream.
Beans in Tacos? You'd get laughed at here for putting beans in Tacos. Now its a different story if it's a "Native" Taco. :biggrin:
That reminds me when Rachel Ray made her version of Posole. She got roasted over here. Then you have people here having a term called "gringo chili" which is that Frito pie mix you call chili with beans, and meat.
Now I want a taco and maybe a Frito pie. :lol
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I think Brian is talking refried beans.
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The TACo...
Soft tortilla
taco meat
cheese
Maybe lettuce and tomato.
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I think Brian is talking refried beans.
Still, we don't really put beans in our tacos. When people think and want a taco, it does not involve beans. When you go to a Mexican food restaurant here, you'll get a taco plate with a side of beans, Spanish rice, and a sopapilla.
You can get a bean and cheese burrito, or a Tostada, if you want beans. :biggrin:
I love how it's the same ingredients but utilized in many different ways to eat them. :lol
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add salsa and sour cream for me.
Ben, I don't either. I love black beans and rice on the side.
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add salsa and sour cream for me.
Ben, I don't either. I love black beans and rice on the side.
Good. You're not weird then. :biggrin:
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My brother used to mock me for mixing my corn with mashed potatoes. He was the weirdo growing up that food couldn't touch each other on his plate. No, I mock him because he likes it.
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I think Brian is talking refried beans.
Still, we don't really put beans in our tacos. When people think and want a taco, it does not involve beans. When you go to a Mexican food restaurant here, you'll get a taco plate with a side of beans, Spanish rice, and a sopapilla.
You can get a bean and cheese burrito, or a Tostada, if you want beans. :biggrin:
I love how it's the same ingredients but utilized in many different ways to eat them. :lol
Not sure where you are, but here in Socal, beans in a taco (except for the aforementioned Taco Bell double-decker) is an aberration.
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I don't really care for what is traditionally in a taco, the taco bell double decker with the refried beans was great. I don't typically put beans in my tacos either, but in the case of using it moreso as a "glue" to keep the shells together, it works perfectly. People can laugh all they want, if it's good to me that is all that matters.
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Some people just want to live their lives and not be dragged into every social justice fight.
If only oppressed minorities had that option. In any case, silence may or may not be complicity, but it certainly makes the job of people who are complicit much easier.
That's the fallacy, of course.
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You can't make your Ivory Tower comments to Kev, and then get all defensive when it gets turned back on you.
Your flaw is assuming that I believe that I am non-complicit. In any case, my reply to you was a comment on the quality of your argument, not my character (i.e. I could be a raging hypocrite and still be correct.)
The concept of silence/apathy enabling bad people is not even a new concept or argument. John Stuart Mills was saying such in 1867.
Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.
That just means that John Stuart Mills was wrong from the get go. I think we're also stretching the conversation here, in the sense that watching someone get assaulted and doing nothing, for example, is not the same thing as the "silence is complicity" argument of today. It's much more a blunt instrument today. It's not the "doing something" that is at issue today, it's going through the motions and playing the perception game. Take Trump for example; I'm largely silent on him, but that's not "complicity" nor is it helping him that I don't join the irrational braying on social media about Trump's behavior. Twitter is a veritable Roman orgy led by Caligula now that the Trump Organization has been indicted. Most of that nonsense I don't join not to help Trump, but because that reaction is AS harmful if not MORE harmful than the things Trump has done.
"Silence is complicity" fails outright the second you fail to account for intent (and we know most of the identity politics/social justice movement today not only fails to account for intent, but pruposefully does not want to account for intent, because it's messy.)
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I think Brian is talking refried beans.
Still, we don't really put beans in our tacos. When people think and want a taco, it does not involve beans. When you go to a Mexican food restaurant here, you'll get a taco plate with a side of beans, Spanish rice, and a sopapilla.
You can get a bean and cheese burrito, or a Tostada, if you want beans. :biggrin:
I love how it's the same ingredients but utilized in many different ways to eat them. :lol
Not sure where you are, but here in Socal, beans in a taco (except for the aforementioned Taco Bell double-decker) is an aberration.
Hilariously, this article appeared on my Facebook feed from a local morning show.
https://www.newmexicomagazine.org/blog/post/best-new-mexico-foods/
NOTHING BURNS OUR BURRITOS like hearing people—including otherwise knowledgeable foodies—refer to New Mexico’s cuisine as “Tex-Mex” or “Mexican.”
The confusion is understandable to a point. Yes, we share staples—chiles, posole, tortillas, and beans, for instance—but our only-in-New-Mexico spin is a centuries-old distillation of Native foraging and cultivation, Spanish colonial imports, and a long period of geographic isolation, before the railways began offloading edibles from elsewhere.
“It’s really important to understand that New Mexican food, as similar as it is to Mexican in some respects, grew up independently,” says Bill Jamison, co-author with our culinary editor Cheryl Alters Jamison of Tasting New Mexico: Recipes Celebrating 100 Years of Distinctive Home Cooking (Museum of New Mexico Press). “There was little influence back and forth between what is now New Mexico and Mexico in the 17th and 18th centuries. A wagon train would come up every two or three years and bring nice things for the rich folks in the area, but not for the general population. Chile became a dominant feature in this period of isolation.”
That’s why when you walk into a classic New Mexican restaurant, or are lucky enough to sit down at a traditional New Mexican home-cooked dinner, you won’t be served a Oaxacan tamale filled with chicken mole and wrapped in a banana leaf. You also won’t be eating crispy-shelled tacos filled with refried beans and topped with shredded Velveeta and sour cream, followed by fried ice cream. You’ll tuck into some of this: stacked red chile enchiladas, green chile stew, chiles rellenos, pinto beans, chicos, carne adovada, a basket of sopaipillas or horno bread, and natillas (custard topped with cinnamon) or biscochitos for dessert.
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I don't really care for what is traditionally in a taco, the taco bell double decker with the refried beans was great. I don't typically put beans in my tacos either, but in the case of using it moreso as a "glue" to keep the shells together, it works perfectly. People can laugh all they want, if it's good to me that is all that matters.
If you were to come here, some people would just tell you to get a Tostada, a flat corn tortilla with beans, cheese, lettuce, tomato, onions. :lol
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If I wanted a tostada, I would get one and not a taco.
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If I wanted a tostada, I would get one and not a taco.
:yarr It's all in jest.
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You can't make your Ivory Tower comments to Kev, and then get all defensive when it gets turned back on you.
Your flaw is assuming that I believe that I am non-complicit. In any case, my reply to you was a comment on the quality of your argument, not my character (i.e. I could be a raging hypocrite and still be correct.)
The concept of silence/apathy enabling bad people is not even a new concept or argument. John Stuart Mills was saying such in 1867.
Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.
That just means that John Stuart Mills was wrong from the get go. I think we're also stretching the conversation here, in the sense that watching someone get assaulted and doing nothing, for example, is not the same thing as the "silence is complicity" argument of today. It's much more a blunt instrument today. It's not the "doing something" that is at issue today, it's going through the motions and playing the perception game. Take Trump for example; I'm largely silent on him, but that's not "complicity" nor is it helping him that I don't join the irrational braying on social media about Trump's behavior. Twitter is a veritable Roman orgy led by Caligula now that the Trump Organization has been indicted. Most of that nonsense I don't join not to help Trump, but because that reaction is AS harmful if not MORE harmful than the things Trump has done.
"Silence is complicity" fails outright the second you fail to account for intent (and we know most of the identity politics/social justice movement today not only fails to account for intent, but pruposefully does not want to account for intent, because it's messy.)
I'm going to be honest Stads, since Kev and TAC have both made it clear they have no desire to continue this line of conversation, and I feel like I have a bought of (non-covid hopefully) flu coming on and am therefore pretty mentally foggy atm, for the sake of not steering the thread further off-topic in this direction I'd rather we just leave the conversation here if you're ok with that. Rest assured I'm sure we'll inevitably discuss the concept over in P/R at some point. :p Hell, its probably an interesting enough topic for its own thread if you like.
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NOTHING BURNS OUR BURRITOS
I once dated a girl from ABQ who educated me a bit about the idea that "New Mexican" food is NOT Mexican food (she also insisted that her family was Spanish and NOT Mexican). Of course, it's been 30 years, so I've forgotten pretty much all of it.
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NOTHING BURNS OUR BURRITOS
Ironically, as a proud proponent of Tex-Mex, I'm pretty keen on maintaining the distinction, myself. :lol
I like posole and chili verde as much as the next guy. When I'm in that neck of the woods it's what I seek out. I certainly prefer TM in a big way, though. And honestly, I prefer Mexican, too.
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I occasionally will make a Taco Bell Double Decker when we make tacos at home. When I go with just a hard shell, I put a bed of lettuce down first, keeping the hot, greasy meat away from the base of the shell, which will help keep the shell from breaking.
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I was with a group of friends at a restaurant yesterday and typically we get checks split to make it easier but we forgot and it came down to the end where we got one big check everyone is acting like it's their first time figuring out who owes what. I figured out my amount and actually had cash on hand to contribute but instead of doing simple math like clockwork the person who owed the most quickly suggested "hey, let's just split the total seven ways". I said no right away and got a befuddled look from my friend but since it's not a hill I'm going to die on I reluctantly agreed and my share ended up being another 20% of my actual bill. Maybe I'm out of line here but would it kill people to just be adults and figure out what you actually owe?
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I was with a group of friends at a restaurant yesterday and typically we get checks split to make it easier but we forgot and it came down to the end where we got one big check everyone is acting like it's their first time figuring out who owes what. I figured out my amount and actually had cash on hand to contribute but instead of doing simple math like clockwork the person who owed the most quickly suggested "hey, let's just split the total seven ways". I said no right away and got a befuddled look from my friend but since it's not a hill I'm going to die on I reluctantly agreed and my share ended up being another 20% of my actual bill. Maybe I'm out of line here but would it kill people to just be adults and figure out what you actually owe?
I would've asked for a menu to see the prices or looked for an online menu if they had one. That's not cool that you had to pay extra for someone else.
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In Sweden its the norm to pay just what you owe (and fortunately most places are geared up to do itemized bills). I think splitting the bill equally is fine if everyone has eaten about the same (plus or minus a few bucks), but if I knew I'd eaten more than most I would make sure I paid the excess.
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I was with a group of friends at a restaurant yesterday and typically we get checks split to make it easier but we forgot and it came down to the end where we got one big check everyone is acting like it's their first time figuring out who owes what. I figured out my amount and actually had cash on hand to contribute but instead of doing simple math like clockwork the person who owed the most quickly suggested "hey, let's just split the total seven ways". I said no right away and got a befuddled look from my friend but since it's not a hill I'm going to die on I reluctantly agreed and my share ended up being another 20% of my actual bill. Maybe I'm out of line here but would it kill people to just be adults and figure out what you actually owe?
Always seems like when everybody figures out their own tab half of them just add the menu price plus a drink and kick that in, neglecting tax/tip. The point man with the check winds up getting $119 for a $120 bill. Thankfully, good POS systems makes separate checks easy.
Personally, I don't mind splitting it evenly to make things simple, but only up to a certain point. Twenty percent I'd probably have done the same thing. In that situation I typically kick in a tad more than necessary, anyway, just for the people who don't. If it's going to double my bill or something than I'll make a big-ass scene. :lol
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I'm that guy who makes it clear to the server right away that there needs to be separate checks.
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This is the plot of the Friends episode called "The One with Five Steaks and an Eggplant." Essentially, three of the main characters make a lot less money than the other three. They go out for a nice dinner. The three low income friends order the least expensive stuff possible and the one of the other three suggests splitting the bill evenly. It causes a fight.
I've never been in a situation with more than one other person where someone wanted to split evenly. Usually what happens in that situation is that the person who takes the lead with the bill ends up getting hosed because one or two people inevitably fail to include money to cover sales tax and tip.
My entry of the day for this thread is restaurants who list prices as "$13.5" or "29.9." This is money. It isn't a math class where you ignore zeroes at the end, and it comes across as highly pretentious.
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I was with a group of friends at a restaurant yesterday and typically we get checks split to make it easier but we forgot and it came down to the end where we got one big check everyone is acting like it's their first time figuring out who owes what. I figured out my amount and actually had cash on hand to contribute but instead of doing simple math like clockwork the person who owed the most quickly suggested "hey, let's just split the total seven ways". I said no right away and got a befuddled look from my friend but since it's not a hill I'm going to die on I reluctantly agreed and my share ended up being another 20% of my actual bill. Maybe I'm out of line here but would it kill people to just be adults and figure out what you actually owe?
Usually, one of us in my friends group would just offer to pay the entire bill, but then some other times we'd just end up paying close to what we owe. Most of the time though, we'd would just ask that we all at least pitch in, unless someone is willing to front you for the time being. I also wouldn't get more than I could afford to pay or "pitch in". If I had $20, I wouldn't get anything more than that so I could use that 20 to pitch in on the total bill.
I guess for us, it's just easier to just get one entire check and figure it out from there. At times, if it doesn't come to that high of a bill, that's when one of us would just front the entire bill. And I guess we just never cared for how much we owe individually when it comes to what we as group spend when we are together.
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I was with a group of friends at a restaurant yesterday and typically we get checks split to make it easier but we forgot and it came down to the end where we got one big check everyone is acting like it's their first time figuring out who owes what. I figured out my amount and actually had cash on hand to contribute but instead of doing simple math like clockwork the person who owed the most quickly suggested "hey, let's just split the total seven ways". I said no right away and got a befuddled look from my friend but since it's not a hill I'm going to die on I reluctantly agreed and my share ended up being another 20% of my actual bill. Maybe I'm out of line here but would it kill people to just be adults and figure out what you actually owe?
I would've asked for a menu to see the prices or looked for an online menu if they had one. That's not cool that you had to pay extra for someone else.
The bill did have prices listed so there was really no excuse other than laziness. Everyone that didn't have cash was just going to Venmo the one person who paid the whole thing anyway so I can't see why we all couldn't work out our own bill.
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Most times going out with a group, the bill ends up just being split evenly. I was not a fan of this, but often times, with friends, it's just a courteous thing in a way. You're all together, you're all having a meal or drinks. It makes it simple. And then, get what you want to get and not worry about paying more than you owe. That's what I started doing once I got older and our adult get togethers starting becoming more of "equally split" instead of everyone get your own bill.
Having said that, I would rather everyone just get their own bill. It's easy for them to split a bill or do separate checks these days, I don't see why not, but it's usually a group thing and the group usually seems to just want to split it equally.
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I hate splitting tabs evenly. I went to a brunch with four girls recently. I had nothing to drink and they had 14-16 drinks between them. I had a water and one coffee with my breakfast. The bill comes, one girl puts it on her card, and she then proceeds to send us all Venmo requests for $80.
I was fucking livid, but given the context of the situation, I just kept my mouth shut and paid it. But I was low-key pissed the rest of the day. Not so much at the fact that I had to pay $80 for $17 worth of breakfast, but more so that there were four other individuals there and not one thought to themselves "Brian didn't have anything to do with the $200 worth of boos that came to the table, let's not make him pay for any of that".
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That's ridiculous, and I think it's only fair to split evenly when people are all participating. If it's dinner, everyone's getting a meal. If it's drinks, everyone is roughly having the same amount.
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You know what you guys just experienced right there? I'll say it, but I think I'll wait for someone else to chime in.
I hate splitting tabs evenly. I went to a brunch with four girls recently. I had nothing to drink and they had 14-16 drinks between them. I had a water and one coffee with my breakfast. The bill comes, one girl puts it on her card, and she then proceeds to send us all Venmo requests for $80.
I was fucking livid, but given the context of the situation, I just kept my mouth shut and paid it. But I was low-key pissed the rest of the day. Not so much at the fact that I had to pay $80 for $17 worth of breakfast, but more so that there were four other individuals there and not one thought to themselves "Brian didn't have anything to do with the $200 worth of boos that came to the table, let's not make him pay for any of that".
That's when I would physically give the person the rounded up estimate of what I actually owe. Before I leave, I'll actually look at bill myself too. That way I can calculate what I do owe and go from there.
This again goes down with being a responsible adult and paying what you owe. If you order however many drinks, be prepared to pay for that bill. No way am I paying for it, unless I decide to buy drinks for everyone.
This is how you weed out the moochers. Sometimes, when I ask someone out, I will front the bill because I asked them to come along, regardless if they have funds or not, for me their company is what I appreciate, not whether they can pay for food and time together I asked of them.
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I don't split evenly.
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I don't split evenly.
When it comes to the check, you just split? :biggrin:
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I don't split evenly.
When it comes to the check, you just split? :biggrin:
:lol
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I don't split evenly.
I'll be the judge of that.
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I don't split evenly.
I'll be the judge of that.
Maybe you will.
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I wonder if I can bring my chainsaw as a carry-on?
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I hate splitting tabs evenly. I went to a brunch with four girls recently. I had nothing to drink and they had 14-16 drinks between them. I had a water and one coffee with my breakfast. The bill comes, one girl puts it on her card, and she then proceeds to send us all Venmo requests for $80.
I was fucking livid, but given the context of the situation, I just kept my mouth shut and paid it. But I was low-key pissed the rest of the day. Not so much at the fact that I had to pay $80 for $17 worth of breakfast, but more so that there were four other individuals there and not one thought to themselves "Brian didn't have anything to do with the $200 worth of boos that came to the table, let's not make him pay for any of that".
Yeah, that's just plain disrespectful. I'd have sent her 20/25 bucks and let her figure out why.
Next time you're out with those same women, order yourself a gourmet meal with the finest tipples of your choice, get the cheque, and pull the same stunt: bill them evenly and see their reaction.
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I hate splitting tabs evenly. I went to a brunch with four girls recently. I had nothing to drink and they had 14-16 drinks between them. I had a water and one coffee with my breakfast. The bill comes, one girl puts it on her card, and she then proceeds to send us all Venmo requests for $80.
I was fucking livid, but given the context of the situation, I just kept my mouth shut and paid it. But I was low-key pissed the rest of the day. Not so much at the fact that I had to pay $80 for $17 worth of breakfast, but more so that there were four other individuals there and not one thought to themselves "Brian didn't have anything to do with the $200 worth of boos that came to the table, let's not make him pay for any of that".
Yeah, that's just plain disrespectful. I'd have sent her 20/25 bucks and let her figure out why.
Next time you're out with those same women, order yourself a gourmet meal with the finest tipples of your choice, get the cheque, and pull the same stunt: bill them evenly and see their reaction.
If I was put in that situation, there would not be a next time :tdwn
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I hate splitting tabs evenly. I went to a brunch with four girls recently. I had nothing to drink and they had 14-16 drinks between them. I had a water and one coffee with my breakfast. The bill comes, one girl puts it on her card, and she then proceeds to send us all Venmo requests for $80.
I was fucking livid, but given the context of the situation, I just kept my mouth shut and paid it. But I was low-key pissed the rest of the day. Not so much at the fact that I had to pay $80 for $17 worth of breakfast, but more so that there were four other individuals there and not one thought to themselves "Brian didn't have anything to do with the $200 worth of boos that came to the table, let's not make him pay for any of that".
Yeah, that's just plain disrespectful. I'd have sent her 20/25 bucks and let her figure out why.
Next time you're out with those same women, order yourself a gourmet meal with the finest tipples of your choice, get the cheque, and pull the same stunt: bill them evenly and see their reaction.
Next time, what he should do is take a few items from their plate and sips of their drinks, because if you all paid equally, you all therefore must share equally what is on the table. :biggrin:
I am more interested on why these people think this way. Like, how they expect a final bill to be shared equally among each other, when individually what was shared wasn't distributed equally. By taking the bill, that girl is responsible for the funding, and if she expects money in return for paying for the entire check, it's her responsibility to make sure each person pays what they owe, and not just expect a simple $80 split between all four.
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I hate splitting tabs evenly. I went to a brunch with four girls recently. I had nothing to drink and they had 14-16 drinks between them. I had a water and one coffee with my breakfast. The bill comes, one girl puts it on her card, and she then proceeds to send us all Venmo requests for $80.
I was fucking livid, but given the context of the situation, I just kept my mouth shut and paid it. But I was low-key pissed the rest of the day. Not so much at the fact that I had to pay $80 for $17 worth of breakfast, but more so that there were four other individuals there and not one thought to themselves "Brian didn't have anything to do with the $200 worth of boos that came to the table, let's not make him pay for any of that".
I'd be high-key pissed about it. Out of curiosity, were these coworkers, or perhaps a person you were wanting to bang? You said "under the circumstances," so I'm just cuirious what prompted such restraint. Having said that, my hostiltiy would be at the girl who took the check. The other ladies might not have known you were getting rooked on the deal. The person sending out requests sure did, though. Like I said, I'll almost always just go along with the even split unless it's just grossly disproportional. Happens sometimes.
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I hate splitting tabs evenly. I went to a brunch with four girls recently. I had nothing to drink and they had 14-16 drinks between them. I had a water and one coffee with my breakfast. The bill comes, one girl puts it on her card, and she then proceeds to send us all Venmo requests for $80.
I was fucking livid, but given the context of the situation, I just kept my mouth shut and paid it. But I was low-key pissed the rest of the day. Not so much at the fact that I had to pay $80 for $17 worth of breakfast, but more so that there were four other individuals there and not one thought to themselves "Brian didn't have anything to do with the $200 worth of boos that came to the table, let's not make him pay for any of that".
I'd be high-key pissed about it. Out of curiosity, were these coworkers, or perhaps a person you were wanting to bang? You said "under the circumstances," so I'm just cuirious what prompted such restraint. Having said that, my hostiltiy would be at the girl who took the check. The other ladies might not have known you were getting rooked on the deal. The person sending out requests sure did, though. Like I said, I'll almost always just go along with the even split unless it's just grossly disproportional. Happens sometimes.
It was on a recent trip to Colorado and I was out with my Fiance, her two sisters, and one of their oldest childhood friends (the one that did the check). It was the last day of vacation and they hadn't seen each other in some time, so I felt like it wasn't my place to make a big deal about it. My fiance took my side, but also wasn't ready to just piss all over what was otherwise a really nice morning out.
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I hate splitting tabs evenly. I went to a brunch with four girls recently. I had nothing to drink and they had 14-16 drinks between them. I had a water and one coffee with my breakfast. The bill comes, one girl puts it on her card, and she then proceeds to send us all Venmo requests for $80.
I was fucking livid, but given the context of the situation, I just kept my mouth shut and paid it. But I was low-key pissed the rest of the day. Not so much at the fact that I had to pay $80 for $17 worth of breakfast, but more so that there were four other individuals there and not one thought to themselves "Brian didn't have anything to do with the $200 worth of boos that came to the table, let's not make him pay for any of that".
I'd be high-key pissed about it. Out of curiosity, were these coworkers, or perhaps a person you were wanting to bang? You said "under the circumstances," so I'm just cuirious what prompted such restraint. Having said that, my hostiltiy would be at the girl who took the check. The other ladies might not have known you were getting rooked on the deal. The person sending out requests sure did, though. Like I said, I'll almost always just go along with the even split unless it's just grossly disproportional. Happens sometimes.
It was on a recent trip to Colorado and I was out with my Fiance, her two sisters, and one of their oldest childhood friends (the one that did the check). It was the last day of vacation and they hadn't seen each other in some time, so I felt like it wasn't my place to make a big deal about it. My fiance took my side, but also wasn't ready to just piss all over what was otherwise a really nice morning out.
And were WEREN'T drinking?? :lol
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I hate splitting tabs evenly. I went to a brunch with four girls recently. I had nothing to drink and they had 14-16 drinks between them. I had a water and one coffee with my breakfast. The bill comes, one girl puts it on her card, and she then proceeds to send us all Venmo requests for $80.
I was fucking livid, but given the context of the situation, I just kept my mouth shut and paid it. But I was low-key pissed the rest of the day. Not so much at the fact that I had to pay $80 for $17 worth of breakfast, but more so that there were four other individuals there and not one thought to themselves "Brian didn't have anything to do with the $200 worth of boos that came to the table, let's not make him pay for any of that".
I'd be high-key pissed about it. Out of curiosity, were these coworkers, or perhaps a person you were wanting to bang? You said "under the circumstances," so I'm just cuirious what prompted such restraint. Having said that, my hostiltiy would be at the girl who took the check. The other ladies might not have known you were getting rooked on the deal. The person sending out requests sure did, though. Like I said, I'll almost always just go along with the even split unless it's just grossly disproportional. Happens sometimes.
It was on a recent trip to Colorado and I was out with my Fiance, her two sisters, and one of their oldest childhood friends (the one that did the check). It was the last day of vacation and they hadn't seen each other in some time, so I felt like it wasn't my place to make a big deal about it. My fiance took my side, but also wasn't ready to just piss all over what was otherwise a really nice morning out.
Yeah, fair enough. Can't blame you there. And if you were paying for your fiance then the math changes a bit. You're in for 40% of the tab rather than 20.
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:lol
I'd be pounding having to listen to 3 women talk. :lol
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I hate splitting tabs evenly. I went to a brunch with four girls recently. I had nothing to drink and they had 14-16 drinks between them. I had a water and one coffee with my breakfast. The bill comes, one girl puts it on her card, and she then proceeds to send us all Venmo requests for $80.
I was fucking livid, but given the context of the situation, I just kept my mouth shut and paid it. But I was low-key pissed the rest of the day. Not so much at the fact that I had to pay $80 for $17 worth of breakfast, but more so that there were four other individuals there and not one thought to themselves "Brian didn't have anything to do with the $200 worth of boos that came to the table, let's not make him pay for any of that".
I'd be high-key pissed about it. Out of curiosity, were these coworkers, or perhaps a person you were wanting to bang? You said "under the circumstances," so I'm just cuirious what prompted such restraint. Having said that, my hostiltiy would be at the girl who took the check. The other ladies might not have known you were getting rooked on the deal. The person sending out requests sure did, though. Like I said, I'll almost always just go along with the even split unless it's just grossly disproportional. Happens sometimes.
It was on a recent trip to Colorado and I was out with my Fiance, her two sisters, and one of their oldest childhood friends (the one that did the check). It was the last day of vacation and they hadn't seen each other in some time, so I felt like it wasn't my place to make a big deal about it. My fiance took my side, but also wasn't ready to just piss all over what was otherwise a really nice morning out.
Well, this does change everything. :lol
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Haha, this thread took a turn! :)
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What the hell kind of breakfast sees people having 3-4 drinks each?
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What the hell kind of breakfast sees people having 3-4 drinks each?
I was thinking that, but if it's brunch then all bets are off. My stepbrother will certainly go through 3 or 4 drinks (and a half dozen Camels) over a late breakfast. I don't get it. My days of getting sloshed before 1700 ended a very long time ago.
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What the hell kind of breakfast sees people having 3-4 drinks each?
The good kind.
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I hate splitting tabs evenly. I went to a brunch with four girls recently. I had nothing to drink and they had 14-16 drinks between them. I had a water and one coffee with my breakfast. The bill comes, one girl puts it on her card, and she then proceeds to send us all Venmo requests for $80.
I was fucking livid, but given the context of the situation, I just kept my mouth shut and paid it. But I was low-key pissed the rest of the day. Not so much at the fact that I had to pay $80 for $17 worth of breakfast, but more so that there were four other individuals there and not one thought to themselves "Brian didn't have anything to do with the $200 worth of boos that came to the table, let's not make him pay for any of that".
I would have flat out refused to pay that amount.
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What the hell kind of breakfast sees people having 3-4 drinks each?
The good kind.
:lol I'm not much of a day drinker, but it's quite common for brunches to include lots of drinks if that's the thing you are into. Mimosas and bloody marys. I've never done an all you can eat/drink brunch that is common around here.
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I hate splitting tabs evenly. I went to a brunch with four girls recently. I had nothing to drink and they had 14-16 drinks between them. I had a water and one coffee with my breakfast. The bill comes, one girl puts it on her card, and she then proceeds to send us all Venmo requests for $80.
I was fucking livid, but given the context of the situation, I just kept my mouth shut and paid it. But I was low-key pissed the rest of the day. Not so much at the fact that I had to pay $80 for $17 worth of breakfast, but more so that there were four other individuals there and not one thought to themselves "Brian didn't have anything to do with the $200 worth of boos that came to the table, let's not make him pay for any of that".
I would have flat out refused to pay that amount.
You would've told em all to GAGF and you would now have no fiancee and a much less expensive rest of your life :lol
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I hate splitting tabs evenly. I went to a brunch with four girls recently. I had nothing to drink and they had 14-16 drinks between them. I had a water and one coffee with my breakfast. The bill comes, one girl puts it on her card, and she then proceeds to send us all Venmo requests for $80.
I was fucking livid, but given the context of the situation, I just kept my mouth shut and paid it. But I was low-key pissed the rest of the day. Not so much at the fact that I had to pay $80 for $17 worth of breakfast, but more so that there were four other individuals there and not one thought to themselves "Brian didn't have anything to do with the $200 worth of boos that came to the table, let's not make him pay for any of that".
I would have flat out refused to pay that amount.
You would've told em all to GAGF and you would now have no fiancee and a much less expensive rest of your life :lol
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What the hell kind of breakfast sees people having 3-4 drinks each?
The good kind.
:lol I'm not much of a day drinker, but it's quite common for brunches to include lots of drinks if that's the thing you are into. Mimosas and bloody marys. I've never done an all you can eat/drink brunch that is common around here.
I don't go out to brunch often but when I do 3 drinks is usually the minimum. That said I prefer to do my drinking at night versus the day.
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What the hell kind of breakfast sees people having 3-4 drinks each?
The breakfasts of Hoda and Kathy Lee fans. :biggrin:
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What the hell kind of breakfast sees people having 3-4 drinks each?
The good kind.
:lol I'm not much of a day drinker, but it's quite common for brunches to include lots of drinks if that's the thing you are into. Mimosas and bloody marys. I've never done an all you can eat/drink brunch that is common around here.
I don't go out to brunch often but when I do 3 drinks is usually the minimum. That said I prefer to do my drinking at night versus the day.
Same here...about the night drinking. I've never been to an official brunch before. If the drinks were free then I'd most likely do it but I don't think I could drink alcohol with any breakfasty-type of food.
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"Brian didn't have anything to do with the $200 worth of boos that came to the table...
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My fiance took my side...
Enjoy it while it lasts...
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The problem with that too is what if the person paying the bill in full and then expecting everyone to reimburse them evenly is a shitty tipper. I would rather pay my own if for no other reason than to make sure the server gets a good tip on my end.
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The problem with that too is what if the person paying the bill in full and then expecting everyone to reimburse them evenly is a shitty tipper. I would rather pay my own if for no other reason than to make sure the server gets a good tip on my end.
I'd be the opposite and make sure the tip isn't too big. I'm not overtipping because of someone else's views on it.
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The problem with that too is what if the person paying the bill in full and then expecting everyone to reimburse them evenly is a shitty tipper. I would rather pay my own if for no other reason than to make sure the server gets a good tip on my end.
I'd be the opposite and make sure the tip isn't too big. I'm not overtipping because of someone else's views on it.
Christmas avatars confuse me. I always recognize people by their avatars so I don't like change. I read this post in Joe's voice and thought it was a little odd. Doesn't seem like he'd be bothered by a girl getting a little extra tip. Then I looked again and saw that it was you and it made perfect sense. :lol
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:lol
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I'm a 20% tipper. Tim is cold nickels from 1928.
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I'm a 20% tipper. Tim is cold nickels from 1928.
20% is fucking crazy!
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I'm a 20% tipper. Tim is cold nickels from 1928.
20% is fucking crazy!
Pretty normal for me and most I know for decent service.
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I'm a 20% tipper. Tim is cold nickels from 1928.
20% is fucking crazy!
Pretty normal for me and most I know for decent service.
Somehow the service industry has guilted people from 15% to now 20%...Why?
To me, decent service is the minimum standard to expect.
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I'm a 20% tipper. Tim is cold nickels from 1928.
20% is fucking crazy!
Pretty normal for me and most I know for decent service.
Somehow the service industry has guilted people from 15% to now 20%...Why?
To me, decent service is the minimum standard to expect.
If only it was the minimum standard to pay. Dude, accept that North America is a tipping society for some industries jobs, and just get with the program. You don't always have to be *that* guy. :)
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I'm not really "that" guy. When we go out to eat, I'll leave a tip. But it WILL be based on how I feel we were served. I'll tip generously if the service exceeds my expectations.
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I'm not really "that" guy. When we go out to eat, I'll leave a tip. But it WILL be based on how I feel we were served. I'll tip generously if the service exceeds my expectations.
Ok, that's fair then. You made it seem like that was not the case. 15% is the standard - you gotta give me some pretty shitty service to get less than that. I will also tip accordingly for better than average service.
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I'm not really "that" guy. When we go out to eat, I'll leave a tip. But it WILL be based on how I feel we were served. I'll tip generously if the service exceeds my expectations.
Ok, that's fair then. You made it seem like that was not the case. 15% is the standard - you gotta give me some pretty shitty service to get less than that. I will also tip accordingly for better than average service.
I'll give you two examples when I don't tip though. If I order a pizza and go pick it up, the slip always has a line for a tip. I always draw a line through it and circle the price.
If I go to a wedding and order a beer, sorry, I'm not tipping for someone pulling a lever or flicking a bottle cap.
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I'm not really "that" guy. When we go out to eat, I'll leave a tip. But it WILL be based on how I feel we were served. I'll tip generously if the service exceeds my expectations.
Ok, that's fair then. You made it seem like that was not the case. 15% is the standard - you gotta give me some pretty shitty service to get less than that. I will also tip accordingly for better than average service.
Do you guys tip when you order food for pickup? If I use their own website for pickup, I don't tip. But if I use DoorDash or whatever, then I tip.
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I kind of answered that above when I pick up food, but I would never use doordash, ever. I'm not going to have some fucking clown bring me my food. What if he smokes? What if he wants to try my fries? Fuck that!
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I'm not really "that" guy. When we go out to eat, I'll leave a tip. But it WILL be based on how I feel we were served. I'll tip generously if the service exceeds my expectations.
Ok, that's fair then. You made it seem like that was not the case. 15% is the standard - you gotta give me some pretty shitty service to get less than that. I will also tip accordingly for better than average service.
I'll give you two examples when I don't tip though. If I order a pizza and go pick it up, the slip always has a line for a tip. I always draw a line through it and circle the price.
If I go to a wedding and order a beer, sorry, I'm not tipping for someone pulling a lever or flicking a bottle cap.
I'm with you on pickup. Especially when I order online, and the restaurant literally has no 'cost' to take my order. Although, there is a family owned pizza place around the corner I frequent, and they haven't raised their prices in years (despite I'm sure their costs having increased). I've started tipping them a bit the past few times I've been there. DoorDash, Uber Eats, Skip the Dishes ... never once used those services.
I'll drop a buck in the jar at a wedding, especially if it's an open bar. Shit man, if I'm paying $1 for a beer, that's a good night. Or sometimes I'll drop a 5 in there for my first drink, and call it even for the rest of the night.
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Nothing to do with tipping, but there's two pizza places we order from in town. The thing is, you simply cannot count on a consistent product. One time it's saucey, the next time dry, the next time overcooked. It's fucking aggravating.
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I'm a 20% tipper. Tim is cold nickels from 1928.
Exactly what I figured, and why I was initially puzzled before it all became so clear. :lol
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I'm not really "that" guy. When we go out to eat, I'll leave a tip. But it WILL be based on how I feel we were served. I'll tip generously if the service exceeds my expectations.
Ok, that's fair then. You made it seem like that was not the case. 15% is the standard - you gotta give me some pretty shitty service to get less than that. I will also tip accordingly for better than average service.
Do you guys tip when you order food for pickup? If I use their own website for pickup, I don't tip. But if I use DoorDash or whatever, then I tip.
I posed this question a few years back and it really set some people off. I think we mostly decided that it depends on the type of place that it is. If it's pizza or Chinese then they're predominantly a carry-out business. I don't feel the need to tip them. If it's a proper restaurant then somebody is having to prepare your order to go and you're taking them away from their main job. Often times it's a hostess, who doesn't get tipped anyway, or a bartender who's got their own customers to take care of. Pulling a bartender away for a few minutes to get your stuff together could cost them their own tips. They always get a tip from me.
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I am going to resist the urge to say too much on this since I used to tend bar, but I am pretty sure I know which DTFers would have gotten short pours on mixed drinks from me and which ones would have gotten a nice healthy pour.
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The tipping talk comes up fairly often around here :lol which surprises me that Tim is shocked people tip 20% when we've had this conversation many times before
But for me, that's for sit down service, not take out. Take out does depend as mentioned. Also tipping for drinks is dependent on drink and circumstances. But usually a dollar a drink is my standard.
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I kind of answered that above when I pick up food, but I would never use doordash, ever. I'm not going to have some fucking clown bring me my food. What if he smokes? What if he wants to try my fries? Fuck that!
The food bag is sealed depending on where it's ordered from. I used to use those services a lot because we cannot use our phones while working. So we have to have someone else do our job (before official break time) while making the call to order. But these days with all the extra fees, I'd rather go hungry than use DoorDash.
I posed this question a few years back and it really set some people off. I think we mostly decided that it depends on the type of place that it is. If it's pizza or Chinese then they're predominantly a carry-out business. I don't feel the need to tip them. If it's a proper restaurant then somebody is having to prepare your order to go and you're taking them away from their main job. Often times it's a hostess, who doesn't get tipped anyway, or a bartender who's got their own customers to take care of. Pulling a bartender away for a few minutes to get your stuff together could cost them their own tips. They always get a tip from me.
Yeah if I'm eating at a restaurant I will tip above and beyond as long as the service is consistently good. I asked this question because some of the places I order from their own site have a tip section for pick up with percentages and No Tip and I feel lilke a bit of a douche when I select the No Tip option. But goddamnt I'm just ordering the food and picking it up myself on my paltry 30-minute lunch break. I gots to eat and I got fiiiiive kids to feed.
I am going to resist the urge to say too much on this since I used to tend bar, but I am pretty sure I know which DTFers would have gotten short pours on mixed drinks from me and which ones would have gotten a nice healthy pour.
I do not go to bars but if I did, I would tip well because bartenders are making and serving the drinks.
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I do not go to bars but if I did, I would tip well because bartenders are making and serving the drinks.
In other words... their job? :laugh:
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I do not go to bars but if I did, I would tip well because bartenders are making and serving the drinks.
In other words... their job? :laugh:
Let us say I follow Albert's Path when it cums to dis shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf0ZvY2usbY
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Wow I did not expect this conversation to go that direction. But yes, we should always abide by the wisdom of Albert Rosenfeld.
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Wow I did not expect this conversation to go that direction. But yes, we should always abide by the wisdom of Albert Rosenfeld.
I was going to give a serious reply about how I think it's fucked up that Herrick has to tip people for doing their jobs and I'm more of a TAC-mang but it is what is, butt then I saw your Avatar and decided to reply the way I did.
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HA! I legit forgot what my avatar was!
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HA! I legit forgot what my avatar was!
How could you? :o
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I just didn't connect your link with my avatar. Mental lapse.
On topic, I worked at a wedding venue years ago. Some days we'd rake in the tips tending bar. Others we'd barely have enough for a Big Gulp at the end of the night. Couldn't attribute the discrepancy to anything (party size, age/demographics of guests...) just seemed totally random. And the staff didn't always agree on the tip jar. Some of us thought it was tacky, others were not so concerned. The best nights were when the bridal party would say to us "hey, put the tip jar away and we'll take care of you at the end of the night."
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I'm a 20% tipper. Tim is cold nickels from 1928.
That's ridiculous.
I wouldn't last over there, my tip would be 0%.
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I'm a 20% tipper. Tim is cold nickels from 1928.
20% is fucking crazy!
Pretty normal for me and most I know for decent service.
1/5 of the bill?! Really!? I guess it's a me thing, we don't really tip over here. I just find that crazy giving people tips when they are just doing their job that they are getting paid for.
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I'm a 20% tipper. Tim is cold nickels from 1928.
20% is fucking crazy!
Pretty normal for me and most I know for decent service.
1/5 of the bill?! Really!? I guess it's a me thing, we don't really tip over here. I just find that crazy giving people tips when they are just doing their job that they are getting paid for.
That's the thing, though. In the states, we don't value service workers. They really don't get paid here. Tips are what they work for. 20% is pretty normal for full meal service. Why am I typing in short sentences?
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I'm a 20% tipper. Tim is cold nickels from 1928.
20% is fucking crazy!
Pretty normal for me and most I know for decent service.
1/5 of the bill?! Really!? I guess it's a me thing, we don't really tip over here. I just find that crazy giving people tips when they are just doing their job that they are getting paid for.
That's the thing, though. In the states, we don't value service workers. They really don't get paid here. Tips are what they work for. 20% is pretty normal for full meal service. Why am I typing in short sentences?
Wait, they don't get paid? Why would anyone do it then?
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For the tips.
Oh, they might get a few dollars per hour as a minimum, but they have to report their tips at the end of the night, divvy it up to the group, divide it out, report and pay taxes on it to the government. It's all very barbaric and civilized.
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I'm a 20% tipper. Tim is cold nickels from 1928.
20% is fucking crazy!
Pretty normal for me and most I know for decent service.
1/5 of the bill?! Really!? I guess it's a me thing, we don't really tip over here. I just find that crazy giving people tips when they are just doing their job that they are getting paid for.
That's the thing, though. In the states, we don't value service workers. They really don't get paid here. Tips are what they work for. 20% is pretty normal for full meal service. Why am I typing in short sentences?
Wait, they don't get paid? Why would anyone do it then?
Good business model - your customers pay you for the food etc.... and pay your staff too :tup
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It is what it is guys. Now when I go to a sub shop or Dunkin Donuts, I don't tip. When I'm at a restaurant with a server, I'll tip. 20% is good service. OK service 15%. And it goes from there.
I don't blame a waitress for the cooks. Most servers take care if there is an issue which is far and between.
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I'm a 20% tipper. Tim is cold nickels from 1928.
20% is fucking crazy!
Pretty normal for me and most I know for decent service.
1/5 of the bill?! Really!? I guess it's a me thing, we don't really tip over here. I just find that crazy giving people tips when they are just doing their job that they are getting paid for.
That's the thing, though. In the states, we don't value service workers. They really don't get paid here. Tips are what they work for. 20% is pretty normal for full meal service. Why am I typing in short sentences?
Wait, they don't get paid? Why would anyone do it then?
It's just the way it is over here. The food service industry is literally excluded from having to comply with "minimum wage" standards. I mean, how else do you think American restaurants put enough food on a single plate to feed a family of four for $12.99 ... along with unlimited breadsticks and bottomless soda - they don't pay their service staff worth shit.
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I've always found it interesting how it's worked out that the people that can have to most impact on your customer is often the lowest paid person in the building...servers, bank tellers, cashiers at the grocery store.
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I've seen a lot of places now prompt you with pre-calculated tips as high as 26% for take out. 22% and 24% are common, with 15% or 18% being the lowest option.
I'm with you, King. I don't tip at places like Dunkin either. I don't tip the kid at the grocery store for slicing my cheese, the guy at Valvoline for changing my oil, or the guy at the hobby store for fetching me a part from behind the counter. Nobody bats an eye at that. Why should I tip the person at Dunkin for putting a coffee roll in my bag? They aren't making server wages and that's literally the sole purpose of their employment.
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Trust me, folks, a server's weekly paycheck here in the States is usually nothing. They get paid like 2 or 3 bucks an hour (maybe a touch more now, I cannot remember), and that is all wiped out by taxes, so their entire salary is dictated by tips. Also, they have to tip out the bartenders and food runners usually as well, so if you jack a server on a tip, they could conceivably lose money on a table. Say you literally tip a server $0 on a $100 check. Not only did they make $0, but then have to, for example, tip the bartender a percentage of their total sales, meaning they are having to pay the bartender their percentage for that $100 of their sales out of their own pocket. Like it or not, it's the way it is, so it's something to think about.
It is what it is guys. Now when I go to a sub shop or Dunkin Donuts, I don't tip. When I'm at a restaurant with a server, I'll tip. 20% is good service. OK service 15%. And it goes from there.
I don't blame a waitress for the cooks. Most servers take care if there is an issue which is far and between.
Agreed. It literally makes no sense for someone to blame the server if there is an issue with the food (unless the server rang it in wrong), but I suspect most people who would do that (generally speaking, not trying to call out anyone here, honestly) are just looking for any reason to tip less or not at all.
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Agreed. It literally makes no sense for someone to blame the server if there is an issue with the food (unless the server rang it in wrong), but I suspect most people who would do that (generally speaking, not trying to call out anyone here, honestly) are just looking for any reason to tip less or not at all.
Is this me? ;D
Here's how I look at it... I don't look for a reason to tip less. In fact, I look for reasons to tip more generally.
However, if I am dissatisfied with my food or whatever, I am not going to overpay my bill. Period. That's up to the server to go to their boss and tell them that the cook fucked up their tip. Otherwise, nothing gets fixed.
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Agreed. It literally makes no sense for someone to blame the server if there is an issue with the food (unless the server rang it in wrong), but I suspect most people who would do that (generally speaking, not trying to call out anyone here, honestly) are just looking for any reason to tip less or not at all.
Is this me? ;D
Here's how I look at it... I don't look for a reason to tip less. In fact, I look for reasons to tip more generally.
However, if I am dissatisfied with my food or whatever, I am not going to overpay my bill. Period. That's up to the server to go to their boss and tell them that the cook fucked up their tip. Otherwise, nothing gets fixed.
So, if the food was fantastic - above expectations - but the service was so-so, would you go back to the kitchen and tip that staff directly?
The bill is the totality of the experience - food and service - not just the cost of the product.
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Agreed. It literally makes no sense for someone to blame the server if there is an issue with the food (unless the server rang it in wrong), but I suspect most people who would do that (generally speaking, not trying to call out anyone here, honestly) are just looking for any reason to tip less or not at all.
Is this me? ;D
Here's how I look at it... I don't look for a reason to tip less. In fact, I look for reasons to tip more generally.
However, if I am dissatisfied with my food or whatever, I am not going to overpay my bill. Period. That's up to the server to go to their boss and tell them that the cook fucked up their tip. Otherwise, nothing gets fixed.
So you don't ask the waitress to fix your order? The stories my wife told me bringing plates back and the fights with the cooks to get the order right happens a lot. That's why I don't blame them. Now if the waitress does not help, they get a bad tip.
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To add to Kev's post.
If the restaurant is a busy one, the longer you linger at your table the more money you are costing the server. For example, the family TAC have a great meal and a great time at Whateverburger. The ordering, and eating takes roughly 45 minutes, but they're enjoying themselves and sit a laugh for two hours total. TAC maybe got a piece of bacon caught in his throat and because the cook shouldn't have over cooked the bacon, he now has a scratchy throat. He finally grabs the bill and thinks, "I may not get to sleep right away tonight with the horror of that hard bacon nagging my throat. Fuckem, he only gets 12%." With a flourish, he proudly writes in $7.00 (rounding down) and plunks his debit card in the tray. That server, and the bussing staff just collected $7.00 for that table for two hours of work.
I suggest American tippers also consider the quality and quantity of your time at the restaurant when tipping the wait staff.
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wait, they don't get paid? Why would anyone do it then?
It's a stupid model here in the US, where employers can set a "tip allowance" for their workers. For example, even though the minimum wage in NY is $15 an hour, restaurant workers, bartenders, or other service workers might get paid $10, with a $5 tip allowance to match the minimum wage. It's pretty much a way the city allows employers to pass on the cost to the customers.
I usually just round up what I tip, to pay a whole dollar amount (no less than 15% though).
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So you don't ask the waitress to fix your order? The stories my wife told me bringing plates back and the fights with the cooks to get the order right happens a lot. That's why I don't blame them. Now if the waitress does not help, they get a bad tip.
Of course. I mean every circumstance is different. I may ask to speak to the manager. The server may also bring them over anyway. All I'm saying is that I try and take everything into account when the bill comes, and I'm not going to be shamed or guilted into giving the server a tip just because. Like I said, the majority of the time I tip just fine.
To add to Kev's post.
If the restaurant is a busy one, the longer you linger at your table the more money you are costing the server. For example, the family TAC have a great meal and a great time at Whateverburger. The ordering, and eating takes roughly 45 minutes, but they're enjoying themselves and sit a laugh for two hours total. TAC maybe got a piece of bacon caught in his throat and because the cook shouldn't have over cooked the bacon, he now has a scratchy throat. He finally grabs the bill and thinks, "I may not get to sleep right away tonight with the horror of that hard bacon nagging my throat. Fuckem, he only gets 12%." With a flourish, he proudly writes in $7.00 (rounding down) and plunks his debit card in the tray. That server, and the bussing staff just collected $7.00 for that table for two hours of work.
I suggest American tippers also consider the quality and quantity of your time at the restaurant when tipping the wait staff.
Yeah, but I'm not that guy that sits and lingers at a table. When my family is out to eat, we usually bug the server to get our bill so we can GTFO.
But say they're waiting on 6 tables for those two hours. That's $42 divided by 2 for $21 an hour. Add to that their wage and now they're up to $25-$30 an hour. Whatever.
Whatever agreement servers have with their employers is not my problem and I could give a fuck honestly.
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I the waitress does a fantastic job and the cook screwed the meal up you'd tip less? I know how little a waitress gets. Tips are everything for them.
What's with the shaming? Who's shaming you?
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I the waitress does a fantastic job and the cook screwed the meal up you'd tip less?
Joe, it would depend on the circumstance, obviously.
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Right, that's what most are saying. I thing you're just phrasing it differently and coming off as not a tipper when in fact you are.
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Trust me, folks, a server's weekly paycheck here in the States is usually nothing. They get paid like 2 or 3 bucks an hour (maybe a touch more now, I cannot remember), and that is all wiped out by taxes, so their entire salary is dictated by tips. Also, they have to tip out the bartenders and food runners usually as well, so if you jack a server on a tip, they could conceivably lose money on a table. Say you literally tip a server $0 on a $100 check. Not only did they make $0, but then have to, for example, tip the bartender a percentage of their total sales, meaning they are having to pay the bartender their percentage for that $100 of their sales out of their own pocket. Like it or not, it's the way it is, so it's something to think about.
That's fucked up. The tip-out should be based on the actual tips received, rather than the predicted tip based on the bill total. I guess it's just another example of restaurants screwing over everybody they can. Fuck yeah, capitalism!
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In most states, servers get paid minimum wage, and in a few they can be paid 2.13/hr,cant remember which. They have to report sales every shift and are taxed 8% of their sales to cover taxes on tips, so if they don't get tips they literally lose money. Unless a server works in an area like SF where minimum wage is 15+,their checks are usually zero..
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I'm a 20% tipper. Tim is cold nickels from 1928.
20% is fucking crazy!
Pretty normal for me and most I know for decent service.
1/5 of the bill?! Really!? I guess it's a me thing, we don't really tip over here. I just find that crazy giving people tips when they are just doing their job that they are getting paid for.
Depends for me; if it's a place I go regularly, I tip minimum 20%. If it's a place I've never been to, I tip 15% to 20%. If it's a place I go to regularly, I'll also expect some level of service. I went out to dinner at our local place with my step son last night to watch the Bruins play and the bartender (Rachel) pointed at me as I sat down and said "the usual? Miller High-Life?" before my fat ass hit the seat. She's getting 20% every time.
If the service blows, I'm not against a 10% tip either. If the tips are going to be part of the wage, more or less, then you ought to be earning your money. Sorry, but that's the way the world works.
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I'm a 20% tipper. Tim is cold nickels from 1928.
20% is fucking crazy!
Pretty normal for me and most I know for decent service.
1/5 of the bill?! Really!? I guess it's a me thing, we don't really tip over here. I just find that crazy giving people tips when they are just doing their job that they are getting paid for.
Yeah, as stated, it's a North America thing. When I travel to Europe, if I tip, it's usually very small because it's not part of the standard. I just did a quick google search about Australia tipping
Australia is a nation divided over tipping. In the US the rule is to add 15% to 20% to the bill. In the UK many restaurants add a 12.5% service charge – and if not, people normally tip about 10% unless the service was bad. Here in Australia the rules are there are no rules.
My sources in Australia’s upper-tier restaurants anecdotally report that more than half of customers tip. But what about in cafes or less high-end restaurants? Or for takeaway food? The most operators at the lower end of the spectrum can expect is pocket change or the bill rounded up a couple of dollars.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/australia-food-blog/2015/aug/26/tipping-in-australia-what-are-the-rules-for-rewarding-waiters (https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/australia-food-blog/2015/aug/26/tipping-in-australia-what-are-the-rules-for-rewarding-waiters)
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Unless the combo of service and food is terrible, I'm a 20% guy.
However, in principle, I dislike the whole concept of tipping. It's like the food industry gets a pass on paying fair wages and I've heard plenty of arguments as to why...but none of them convinced me.
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I'm not really "that" guy. When we go out to eat, I'll leave a tip. But it WILL be based on how I feel we were served. I'll tip generously if the service exceeds my expectations.
Ok, that's fair then. You made it seem like that was not the case. 15% is the standard - you gotta give me some pretty shitty service to get less than that. I will also tip accordingly for better than average service.
Do you guys tip when you order food for pickup? If I use their own website for pickup, I don't tip. But if I use DoorDash or whatever, then I tip.
If I'm picking up, ain't no one getting a tip. I've also never put money in a tip jar unless it's an (uncommon for me) situation where I've paid cash and I get back less than a quarter in change and just don't want to bother with a few pennies. Also, if you're picking up food, using something like DoorDash is a GUARANTEE that you'll pay 20 or so percent above normal menu prices.
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I'm not really "that" guy. When we go out to eat, I'll leave a tip. But it WILL be based on how I feel we were served. I'll tip generously if the service exceeds my expectations.
Ok, that's fair then. You made it seem like that was not the case. 15% is the standard - you gotta give me some pretty shitty service to get less than that. I will also tip accordingly for better than average service.
Do you guys tip when you order food for pickup? If I use their own website for pickup, I don't tip. But if I use DoorDash or whatever, then I tip.
If I'm picking up, ain't no one getting a tip. I've also never put money in a tip jar unless it's an (uncommon for me) situation where I've paid cash and I get back less than a quarter in change and just don't want to bother with a few pennies. Also, if you're picking up food, using something like DoorDash is a GUARANTEE that you'll pay 20 or so percent above normal menu prices.
On the rare occasion I pay cash tip jars get all of the change, up to and including 99¢. I simply don't want to carry it around, and leaving it in my car is an invitation for a broken window. I mostly see them at Mexican places, and they generally get a tip for carry-out from me regardless.
As for Door Dash, I refuse to have anything to do with it. I'll support businesses by making sure they get their fair share. I'd rather take 10 minutes to drive and pick it up than let those DD/GH fucks rip the restaurant off. On top of that, I object on general principle to people inserting themselves in the middle and then screwing both sides. If you want to be a middleman pick a side to be on. Screw the customer or screw the restaurant. Screwing both offends me. It's like funny money at the titty bar, where $100 gets you 80$, and the girls get $80 for $100. I won't play that game.
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I hate splitting tabs evenly. I went to a brunch with four girls recently. I had nothing to drink and they had 14-16 drinks between them. I had a water and one coffee with my breakfast. The bill comes, one girl puts it on her card, and she then proceeds to send us all Venmo requests for $80.
I was fucking livid, but given the context of the situation, I just kept my mouth shut and paid it. But I was low-key pissed the rest of the day. Not so much at the fact that I had to pay $80 for $17 worth of breakfast, but more so that there were four other individuals there and not one thought to themselves "Brian didn't have anything to do with the $200 worth of boos that came to the table, let's not make him pay for any of that".
I would have flat out refused to pay that amount.
You would've told em all to GAGF and you would now have no fiancee and a much less expensive rest of your life :lol
Greater Anatolia Guarantee Facility?
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What the hell kind of breakfast sees people having 3-4 drinks each?
The good kind.
:lol I'm not much of a day drinker, but it's quite common for brunches to include lots of drinks if that's the thing you are into. Mimosas and bloody marys. I've never done an all you can eat/drink brunch that is common around here.
I don't go out to brunch often but when I do 3 drinks is usually the minimum. That said I prefer to do my drinking at night versus the day.
Same here...about the night drinking. I've never been to an official brunch before. If the drinks were free then I'd most likely do it but I don't think I could drink alcohol with any breakfasty-type of food.
See, I'm a proud day-drinker from way back. It happens rarely, if ever, these days, but taking off work at 2:00 to have a couple beers and watch a game or go to a concert... that's Nirvana for me.
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I kind of answered that above when I pick up food, but I would never use doordash, ever. I'm not going to have some fucking clown bring me my food. What if he smokes? What if he wants to try my fries? Fuck that!
Anyone who ever watches Ridiculousness will NEVER EVER use Door Dash ever again. The things that get caught on Ring cameras that some of those delivery people do is nauseating at the very least. Plus they are flat out highway robbery for being lazy. I once placed an order for McDonald's - don't ask - and through Door Dash it was just under $50. I got off my fat ass and went there and it was $22 and change. HALF.
I don't tip for pickup unless there are extenuating circumstances; I have a glass of wine while waiting or I add something to the order last minute. One local place I usually put a tip on only because I know them and I know they throw stuff in like bread and what not.
Okay, honest question: anyone ever tip - in whole or in part - based on the attractiveness (man or woman) of the server?
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I hate splitting tabs evenly. I went to a brunch with four girls recently. I had nothing to drink and they had 14-16 drinks between them. I had a water and one coffee with my breakfast. The bill comes, one girl puts it on her card, and she then proceeds to send us all Venmo requests for $80.
I was fucking livid, but given the context of the situation, I just kept my mouth shut and paid it. But I was low-key pissed the rest of the day. Not so much at the fact that I had to pay $80 for $17 worth of breakfast, but more so that there were four other individuals there and not one thought to themselves "Brian didn't have anything to do with the $200 worth of boos that came to the table, let's not make him pay for any of that".
I would have flat out refused to pay that amount.
You would've told em all to GAGF and you would now have no fiancee and a much less expensive rest of your life :lol
Greater Anatolia Guarantee Facility?
German Air Guitar Federation.
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Okay, honest question: anyone ever tip - in whole or in part - based on the attractiveness (man or woman) of the server?
Nope. Partly because when I'm signing the check I'm thinking money, not tail. Partly because I think the hot servers know it happens, and that kind of makes you a sap for playing along.
Funny thing is that it definitely happens, but I reckon most people will deny it (like I just did). I recall Mythbusters doing a [fairly unscientific for them] bit on tips and breast size and there was very definitely a direct correlation. Interestingly, the women increased their tips more than the men.
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Okay, honest question: anyone ever tip - in whole or in part - based on the attractiveness (man or woman) of the server?
Do strip clubs count? That's pretty much the only time it's a factor for me.
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Okay, honest question: anyone ever tip - in whole or in part - based on the attractiveness (man or woman) of the server?
I'd be lying if I say that I haven't, specially back in my college years.
Not anymore though.
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I'm not a big user of doordash or ubereats, but I will use it on occassion. I often get coupons that make it cheaper than if I went myself to pick it up. It can also be convenient when traveling. But generally, I don't like it because it's often too expensive for what you are getting.
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I kind of answered that above when I pick up food, but I would never use doordash, ever. I'm not going to have some fucking clown bring me my food. What if he smokes? What if he wants to try my fries? Fuck that!
Anyone who ever watches Ridiculousness will NEVER EVER use Door Dash ever again.
Is that a show or a YouTube video about Door Dash?
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Agreed. It literally makes no sense for someone to blame the server if there is an issue with the food (unless the server rang it in wrong), but I suspect most people who would do that (generally speaking, not trying to call out anyone here, honestly) are just looking for any reason to tip less or not at all.
Is this me? ;D
Here's how I look at it... I don't look for a reason to tip less. In fact, I look for reasons to tip more generally.
However, if I am dissatisfied with my food or whatever, I am not going to overpay my bill. Period. That's up to the server to go to their boss and tell them that the cook fucked up their tip. Otherwise, nothing gets fixed.
So, if the food was fantastic - above expectations - but the service was so-so, would you go back to the kitchen and tip that staff directly?
The bill is the totality of the experience - food and service - not just the cost of the product.
I have absolutely done that, at least in concept. I have absolutely slipped cash to a server/bartender/cook to single out their performance from the general. In some instances they've winked and said "thank you", in others they've said "that's nice, but it all goes in the jar!" and in others, they've simply kept their own counsel.
I am a libertarian here; you chose - within the parameters available to you - to work in service. You made your bed. I can't tell you how many people I've talked to that got into "bartending, because you can make $x00 a night on tips!" and they don't know how to make a vodka tonic (hint: vodka, and tonic). It's like anything else; the cream rises to the top. I'm not rewarding you for choosing to be in the service industry, I'm rewarding you for choosing to do your immediate tasks at hand at as high a level as you can. I'm not going to penalize a server for the cook; I will penalize or reward a server for how he/she handles the situation. I will absolutely pay more for a bartender that knows to put the orange on my Blue Moon without me asking. Or that knows I might want a lime with my Tito's, soda and splash of ginger ale (or, for that matter, knows how much a "splash" is). If I have to tell you what's in the drink I'm ordering, I can HEAR your tip going down.
I will also sometimes order water with my meal. EASILY half the time I don't get the water. That gurgling sound is not the water going down the drain, it's your tip.
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I kind of answered that above when I pick up food, but I would never use doordash, ever. I'm not going to have some fucking clown bring me my food. What if he smokes? What if he wants to try my fries? Fuck that!
Anyone who ever watches Ridiculousness will NEVER EVER use Door Dash ever again.
Is that a show or a YouTube video about Door Dash?
It's a show on MTV; kind of an adult "America's Funniest Home Videos". I find it HILARIOUS.
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I kind of answered that above when I pick up food, but I would never use doordash, ever. I'm not going to have some fucking clown bring me my food. What if he smokes? What if he wants to try my fries? Fuck that!
Anyone who ever watches Ridiculousness will NEVER EVER use Door Dash ever again.
Is that a show or a YouTube video about Door Dash?
It's a show on MTV; kind of an adult "America's Funniest Home Videos". I find it HILARIOUS.
What happened in the episode you mentioned? Someone did something nasty with a food delivery?
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Appreciate the details and the read on the last page lads. Fucking fascinating all of this from my end.
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In most states, servers get paid minimum wage, and in a few they can be paid 2.13/hr,cant remember which.
I was under the impression that $2.13/hour was standard almost everywhere here in the U.S.
I tip 20% minimum as long as the service doesn't absolutely suck, and how the food turns out doesn't factor into my tip at all. I'm not tipping the cook, I'm tipping the server.
Hell, I tipped my dog groomer 20% today. They earn it, my dog can be an asshole lol
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I guess looking at a $2.13/ hour wage, I can understand the tipping lol. Now I'm informed, you would feel like a dick not doing it. I've heard from people that have been to the US that meals are a lot cheaper and bigger than they are here so would probably balance out in the end anyway. I'm guessing you would always count a tip as part of the cost of the meal from a budgeting perspective, if that makes sense.
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Agreed. It literally makes no sense for someone to blame the server if there is an issue with the food (unless the server rang it in wrong), but I suspect most people who would do that (generally speaking, not trying to call out anyone here, honestly) are just looking for any reason to tip less or not at all.
Is this me? ;D
No, I made a point to say the "generally speaking..." part, because I did not want you or anyone to think I was calling them out specifically, regardless of whether it applied or not. :P
So you don't ask the waitress to fix your order? The stories my wife told me bringing plates back and the fights with the cooks to get the order right happens a lot. That's why I don't blame them. Now if the waitress does not help, they get a bad tip.
There is always the possibility that the server rang something in wrong, but if that happens and they apologize, all good with me. Mistakes happen.
One note about that is if something goes wrong AND the server or bartender is one of those people that never writes anything down, I am probably going to assume it was their fault, not the cook's. I get that some think they can remember everything, but writing stuff down is safer. I worked with a guy eons ago who could literally take an entire order of food and drinks from an 8-top, never write anything down, and then still remember it all when he went to ring it in, but I feel that's a dangerous road. It's like in my current workplace. If someone does not take notes when being trained, I assume they will not last long (and they never do).
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Australia is a nation divided over tipping. In the US the rule is to add 15% to 20% to the bill. In the UK many restaurants add a 12.5% service charge – and if not, people normally tip about 10% unless the service was bad. Here in Australia the rules are there are no rules.
My sources in Australia’s upper-tier restaurants anecdotally report that more than half of customers tip. But what about in cafes or less high-end restaurants? Or for takeaway food? The most operators at the lower end of the spectrum can expect is pocket change or the bill rounded up a couple of dollars.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/australia-food-blog/2015/aug/26/tipping-in-australia-what-are-the-rules-for-rewarding-waiters (https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/australia-food-blog/2015/aug/26/tipping-in-australia-what-are-the-rules-for-rewarding-waiters)
Even that is overstating the level of tipping in Australia................outside of very high end it's basically something you might do if you were shocked at the service and wanted to GIFT the server. It's not in the slightest viewed as paying them for the basic job they are doing . If I surveyed a random group of 100 Aussies my guess would be 90+ would not have tipped in their life. As Kade said everything is so expensive out here (even before the latest inflation) and people get paid what they get paid - which is also quite good in most service industries. It's actually the service businesses who struggle out here as they are paying double rates on Sundays/public holidays etc....
So yeah.....it would be a huge culture shock travelling to America and having people holding their hand out for a tip for basic service. The bit in Crocodile Dundee where the porter holds his hand out and Croc "gives him 5" is very accurate :lol
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I will absolutely pay more for a bartender that knows to put the orange on my Blue Moon without me asking. Or that knows I might want a lime with my Tito's, soda and splash of ginger ale (or, for that matter, knows how much a "splash" is).
Goddamn, why don't you just go to the fruit stand to order your drinks? :P
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All this talk of waiting tables is giving me flashbacks, and not the good kind. I served tables for two and a half years while I was in therapy school, and while it was a good job for the instant cash on hand, I hope to God I never have to do something like that again. Being at the complete mercy of the general whim of the public for your money isn't fun. The wage mentioned earlier was correct in my case when I lived in Utah, $2.13/hr, and any check that I had past the one I earned during training was a whopping $0 thanks to tips being taxed against that wage. And the mention of tips being deducted from at the end of the night was also my case - total sales for the shift had 3% taken from servers (bartender, bussers, and hosts all took 1% for each role). So yes, stiffing a server is actually costing them money for their time in the case that they make that wage.
Worst case I can relay was one morning when I was paired with the slowest, dullest fucking server in the restaurant to take care of a bridal party of 25-30 people, pretty much from the start of my shift. These assholes ran me ragged across the restaurant for my entire shift, to the point I couldn't take any other tables while they loitered there for hours. Being the people pleaser I am, I did my damnedest to make sure they were taken care of. My manager offered to add gratuity to their bill, and they swore up and down that they would "take care of us." When all was said and done, they racked up a total bill of several hundred dollars, and in the end tipped my serving partner and me $12. To split. I think my half of the total sales for the table was over $300, so after the other staff got their 3% share, I lost money over that entire morning since I had to give up at least $9 of that table. That was 15+ years ago and I'm still fucking livid and bitter thinking about it. Haha
Now here in Oregon (and Washington too, I think. Maybe even California, though I could be wrong), servers actually make the minimum wage here of I think $15/hr, maybe more. So I'm less inclined to tip quite as much, but I still try to be generous (and understanding) based on my serving experience. Probably some of the most chaotic work I've done.
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I'm against tipping on general principle, but since the alternatives in the US are the waiting staff getting screwed over, I'll do it.
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Australia is a nation divided over tipping. In the US the rule is to add 15% to 20% to the bill. In the UK many restaurants add a 12.5% service charge – and if not, people normally tip about 10% unless the service was bad. Here in Australia the rules are there are no rules.
My sources in Australia’s upper-tier restaurants anecdotally report that more than half of customers tip. But what about in cafes or less high-end restaurants? Or for takeaway food? The most operators at the lower end of the spectrum can expect is pocket change or the bill rounded up a couple of dollars.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/australia-food-blog/2015/aug/26/tipping-in-australia-what-are-the-rules-for-rewarding-waiters (https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/australia-food-blog/2015/aug/26/tipping-in-australia-what-are-the-rules-for-rewarding-waiters)
Even that is overstating the level of tipping in Australia................outside of very high end it's basically something you might do if you were shocked at the service and wanted to GIFT the server. It's not in the slightest viewed as paying them for the basic job they are doing . If I surveyed a random group of 100 Aussies my guess would be 90+ would not have tipped in their life. As Kade said everything is so expensive out here (even before the latest inflation) and people get paid what they get paid - which is also quite good in most service industries. It's actually the service businesses who struggle out here as they are paying double rates on Sundays/public holidays etc....
So yeah.....it would be a huge culture shock travelling to America and having people holding their hand out for a tip for basic service. The bit in Crocodile Dundee where the porter holds his hand out and Croc "gives him 5" is very accurate :lol
Yeah, I thought immediately those stats were bullshit. You're so damned right it's the businesses over here that feel the heat over the employees. Employees seem to keep getting better and better deals.
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I kind of answered that above when I pick up food, but I would never use doordash, ever. I'm not going to have some fucking clown bring me my food. What if he smokes? What if he wants to try my fries? Fuck that!
Anyone who ever watches Ridiculousness will NEVER EVER use Door Dash ever again.
Is that a show or a YouTube video about Door Dash?
It's a show on MTV; kind of an adult "America's Funniest Home Videos". I find it HILARIOUS.
What happened in the episode you mentioned? Someone did something nasty with a food delivery?
There's been a couple; one a person reached in and ate some fries. Another, the person took a sip from the drink. One, the delivery person was scratching their ass then handed the food to the person who ordered...
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I kind of answered that above when I pick up food, but I would never use doordash, ever. I'm not going to have some fucking clown bring me my food. What if he smokes? What if he wants to try my fries? Fuck that!
Anyone who ever watches Ridiculousness will NEVER EVER use Door Dash ever again.
Is that a show or a YouTube video about Door Dash?
It's a show on MTV; kind of an adult "America's Funniest Home Videos". I find it HILARIOUS.
What happened in the episode you mentioned? Someone did something nasty with a food delivery?
There's been a couple; one a person reached in and ate some fries. Another, the person took a sip from the drink. One, the delivery person was scratching their ass then handed the food to the person who ordered...
You might want to stay out of actual restaurants too :lol
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I will absolutely pay more for a bartender that knows to put the orange on my Blue Moon without me asking. Or that knows I might want a lime with my Tito's, soda and splash of ginger ale (or, for that matter, knows how much a "splash" is).
Goddamn, why don't you just go to the fruit stand to order your drinks? :P
HAHAHA.
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I will absolutely pay more for a bartender that knows to put the orange on my Blue Moon without me asking. Or that knows I might want a lime with my Tito's, soda and splash of ginger ale (or, for that matter, knows how much a "splash" is).
Goddamn, why don't you just go to the fruit stand to order your drinks? :P
Beer plebeians like you make me chuckle.
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In the latest chapter of it sucks to get older...
I woke up at 5 am this morning with major pain in my left calf. Pretty sure it's not a charley horse because I used to get those on occasion and they would go away instantly the second I stood up. Standing up did nada for this. It has felt sore all day, like I have a calf strain. Same thing happened a few months ago and the soreness went away after a few days. Not sure what the cause was, but it ruined one of my two nights of sleep on a non-work night. :censored :censored
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Was it a cramp?
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Hard to say. Does a cramp in your calf usually feel a little sore for a few days? I honestly do not know.
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Hard to say. Does a cramp in your calf usually feel a little sore for a few days? I honestly do not know.
I would definitely mention it to your doctor. Are you drinking enough water...maybe some dehydration?
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Hard to say. Does a cramp in your calf usually feel a little sore for a few days? I honestly do not know.
I would definitely mention it to your doctor. Are you drinking enough water...maybe some dehydration?
That is possible. I tend to drink a lot of water early in the day, but not as much later in the day. Not sure why that is, but it's my routine I guess.
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In the latest chapter of it sucks to get older...
I woke up at 5 am this morning with major pain in my left calf. Pretty sure it's not a charley horse because I used to get those on occasion and they would go away instantly the second I stood up. Standing up did nada for this. It has felt sore all day, like I have a calf strain. Same thing happened a few months ago and the soreness went away after a few days. Not sure what the cause was, but it ruined one of my two nights of sleep on a non-work night. :censored :censored
Heavy bedding during Winter. A heavy comforter or the like will pull your feet down and cause leg cramps. A nasty one can certainly leave you sore for a while.
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In the latest chapter of it sucks to get older...
I woke up at 5 am this morning with major pain in my left calf. Pretty sure it's not a charley horse because I used to get those on occasion and they would go away instantly the second I stood up. Standing up did nada for this. It has felt sore all day, like I have a calf strain. Same thing happened a few months ago and the soreness went away after a few days. Not sure what the cause was, but it ruined one of my two nights of sleep on a non-work night. :censored :censored
Heavy bedding during Winter. A heavy comforter or the like will pull your feet down and cause leg cramps. A nasty one can certainly leave you sore for a while.
Hmmm, I didn't think about that. The extra blanket I use in the winter (which is a bit heavy, yes) was more towards the end of the bed this morning, meaning it was covering the bottom part of me rather than all of me like normal, so that could be it.
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Sucks getting old and not knowing why body parts hurt.
https://youtu.be/ryDdPHyqsbs
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Sucks getting old and not knowing why body parts hurt.
https://youtu.be/ryDdPHyqsbs
That's funny.
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I love Brian Regan. He's so damn funny with his observations.
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I love Brian Regan. He's so damn funny with his observations.
That was the first clip I've ever watched of his. I'll check out more.
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I love Brian Regan. He's so damn funny with his observations.
That was the first clip I've ever watched of his. I'll check out more.
This was the first clip I ever saw of Regan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOvW9xH9nrY
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Chad. I've seen him 11 times live and saw him late in the 80's. Him and Richard Jeni was my vo to back in the day.
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Chad. I've seen him 11 times live and saw him late in the 80's. Him and Richard Jeni was my vo to back in the day.
Loved Richard Jeni!!! Platypus Man is one of the best HBO Comedy specials ever.
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I still have it on VCS tape. If only I have a VRC! LOL
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It's called a VCR.
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I still have it on VCS tape. If only I have a VRC! LOL
I think King did a bit too much LDS at Berkeley. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgHxFNFWlZc)
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:lol
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If only. F'ing sober on a Saturday night.
WHAT HAS THIS WORLD COME TO?!
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I still have it on VCS tape. If only I have a VRC! LOL
I think King did a bit too much LDS at Berkeley. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgHxFNFWlZc)
That was me actually... And it was mushrooms, not acid.
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Take it from an expert. You guys suck. Lol
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Christ getting old sucks. A few days ago I was cleaning my bike when I put my right knee down on the floor and got the most sharp, hot pain shoot through my leg. At first I thought I weirdly placed my knee on the seam of my jeans but it turns out I pinched a nerve in my knee. It's fucking brutal.
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Christ getting old sucks. A few days ago I was cleaning my bike when I put my right knee down on the floor and got the most sharp, hot pain shoot through my leg. At first I thought I weirdly placed my knee on the seam of my jeans but it turns out I pinched a nerve in my knee. It's fucking brutal.
I hear you man.
I'm doing jiu jitsu in my mid 30's and most of the other guys are early 20's. You can pretty much pick them up and throw them through the window and they just get back up. I move slightly the wrong way and on the couch for a day. I can definitely feel the aging.
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Just wait till your 40s. It gets worse. :facepalm: :facepalm: :lol :lol
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Just wait till your 40s. It gets worse. :facepalm: :facepalm: :lol :lol
50s: Hold my beer.
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My in-laws.
It’s such a stereotypical gripe, but we’re doing ‘Christmas’ with the in-laws today, and. I. Can’t. Take. Much. More. :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
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Dude, my in-laws too. I hate spending holidays with them and I told my wife next year we are going to my mom's for a change. I've never met two people who are so unhappy all the time.
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My in-laws.
It’s such a stereotypical gripe, but we’re doing ‘Christmas’ with the in-laws today, and. I. Can’t. Take. Much. More. :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
Was at my in laws last night after visiting my dad in the hospital. My mother in law would not stop talking over the movie. She saw me on my phone and asked "What would you do without it?"
My answer was, "I'd guess I'd have to listen to yap."
My father in law and brother in law laughed.
That made my day.
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Just wait till your 40s. It gets worse. :facepalm: :facepalm: :lol :lol
50s: Hold my beer.
Word.
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Hard to say. Does a cramp in your calf usually feel a little sore for a few days? I honestly do not know.
I would definitely mention it to your doctor. Are you drinking enough water...maybe some dehydration?
I get cramps in my calves if I'm dehydrated. Hurts like the devil.
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Hard to say. Does a cramp in your calf usually feel a little sore for a few days? I honestly do not know.
I would definitely mention it to your doctor. Are you drinking enough water...maybe some dehydration?
I get cramps in my calves if I'm dehydrated. Hurts like the devil.
Every once in awhile, likely from being dehydrated, I will wake up in the middle of the night in screaming pain from a calf cramp. When that happens, that soreness usually lasts in my calfs for a couple days although the pain subsides fairly quickly.
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My in-laws.
It’s such a stereotypical gripe, but we’re doing ‘Christmas’ with the in-laws today, and. I. Can’t. Take. Much. More. :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
Was at my in laws last night after visiting my dad in the hospital. My mother in law would not stop talking over the movie. She saw me on my phone and asked "What would you do without it?"
My answer was, "I'd guess I'd have to listen to yap."
My father in law and brother in law laughed.
That made my day.
:lol
Between my in-laws living on the west coast and my working in retail, I don't really get much time to hang out with them on the holidays unless they come visit us. I actually really like my mother-in-law. It's my father-in-law who is a challenge to deal with.
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Hard to say. Does a cramp in your calf usually feel a little sore for a few days? I honestly do not know.
I would definitely mention it to your doctor. Are you drinking enough water...maybe some dehydration?
I get cramps in my calves if I'm dehydrated. Hurts like the devil.
Every once in awhile, likely from being dehydrated, I will wake up in the middle of the night in screaming pain from a calf cramp. When that happens, that soreness usually lasts in my calfs for a couple days although the pain subsides fairly quickly.
That's the worst when it happens like that. I hate that because I stretch too much and there goes my calf and I am sitting up, stretching it, rubbing it, all while trying to be quiet so I don't wake anyone else up.
I can feel it the next day.
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My in-laws.
It’s such a stereotypical gripe, but we’re doing ‘Christmas’ with the in-laws today, and. I. Can’t. Take. Much. More. :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
Was at my in laws last night after visiting my dad in the hospital. My mother in law would not stop talking over the movie. She saw me on my phone and asked "What would you do without it?"
My answer was, "I'd guess I'd have to listen to yap."
My father in law and brother in law laughed.
That made my day.
:lol
Between my in-laws living on the west coast and my working in retail, I don't really get much time to hang out with them on the holidays unless they come visit us. I actually really like my mother-in-law. It's my father-in-law who is a challenge to deal with.
In marrying into the family I did, I really truly like all the family members. Mom, Dad, brother... it's the spouses of them that try my patience. Not so much my sister-in-law; she's weird but harmless, but my step-father-in-law (what?) is infuriating, and HIS family, with one exception, are not worth the oxygen they use (though the son brought a girlfriend who is a stripper - sorry, I mean "dancer" - to a couple holiday parties there for a while. I love my father-in-law; he often comes on vacation with us, and frankly, I wish he'd move closer and spend more time with us (he's out in the middle of the woods in north central CT; something ever happens to him it might take days to find out, not kidding).
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The check battery light came on for the car today. Sitting at the service place getting it looked at.
Fingers crossed its nothing major.
Sitting here is kind of like sitting in a hospital waiting room. Watching the service people come out and break the bad news to people and seeing their devastation. Its kind of tragic
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^^ that kinda feels like when I got a plumber to give me an estimate on how much re-piping the drains to the sinks in my bathrooms and kitchen would cost. We had replaced the countertops and put in new undermount sinks, this one plumber came and said that we would need to break the walls and put in new waste pipes that would be lower because the new sinks are lower and the current drain pipes were too high for a proper P trap drain. So he said I had to strip the new countertops that we had installed, break the walls behind the pipes, put in the new waste pipes, hire a drywall specialist to redo the walls, get the countertops reinstalled. I was looking at about over $10k worth of work at the very least. I got another guy to look at the drain pipes and he and his friend did it for $650 flat. no need to break the entire walls down or any of that stuff. Just installed new drain pipes and that was it. I was contemplating doing it myself but I would have taken way too long to do it and had other work lined up.
My father in-law works with a lot of builders and he had his plumber with 40 years experience look at it as well and without even me telling him anything, he said 'I'm sure some guys will say you need to break the walls to lower the drains, not needed in this case'.
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What the heck? A drywall specialist? A handyman could fix drywall behind a cabinet. How was the plumbing hooked up when the new sinks/countertops were installed?
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They just replaced the piping from the wall to the sink. New PVC pipes were installed adjusted to the new heights, that's all that was needed.
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I may have read your post wrong. I do remodeling, and other than countertop install, we do the cabinet install, plumbing, and everything else. So would know how to do everything properly without unnecessary work (and expense to the client).
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Very cool! I probably should've asked here first before getting work done. Essentially we wanted to replace the laminated countertops and repaint the kitchen cabinet for the house we bought. Found guys on thumbtack.com that came highly rated for a decent price and did things piece by piece. First had quartz countertops replace the laminated ones. That guy also gave us free sinks. He said you'll need to hire a plumber to redo the drain pipes because we'll now have undermounts sinks(which we wanted also) those would replace the existing regular sinks.
Once the countertops were installed, we needed a plumber to redo the piping, and thats when one of the guy quoted that you need to break everything and redo the whole piping system to get to the right heights. He said there wasn't enough space from the new sink bottom level to the p-trap and the drain outlets in the wall would have to be lowered. Except there was plenty of space and it would be perfectly fine and up to code. And that's what we did eventually.
I hope that makes sense.
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Makes total sense. We try to be a one-stop shop, so to speak. When you get too many cooks in the kitchen (:laugh:) and different contractors doing different parts of the project, you can get conflicting information, and people not working together, and sometimes actively working against each other.
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It honestly never occurred to me that I should try and find a one-stop shop solution to our planned modifications. Our Kitchen is small and that is what led me to the path of finding services indvidually.
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It can be hard because you may think "I need new cabinets, I should contact a cabinet contractor." Then you realize installing cabinets impacts plumbing, and a cabinet installer isn't going to touch plumbing, so you got a call a plumber. And if you want wiring in your cabinets, a plumber isn't going to touch that, so you need an electrical contractor.
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Toxic positivity, especially when it's combined with volume. I'm happy that you're happy and that you love your job, but I shouldn't be able to hear your phone conversations with your customers when you sit five rows from me.
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Toxic positivity, especially when it's combined with volume. I'm happy that you're happy and that you love your job, but I shouldn't be able to hear your phone conversations with your customers when you sit five rows from me.
I'm having the same issue at my office. We hired a new person on our support desk, she sits a row over from me and just the volume this woman speaks at. Every time I come in I get a "HELLLOOOOOOO!!!! IT'S SUCH A BEAUTIFUL DAY!!!!!", she does this to everyone, it goes on and on all day. I like my job and I like the people I work with including her but there are times I want to ask her to kindly shut the hell up.
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Did anyone else read those last two posts and think of Toby from Seinfeld?
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Nice pull. I myself thought of this gal.
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Actually, this came to mind.
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But Toby's a good one too. Don't know the other example
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Office Space. Oddly I was actually thinking of this gal when I came in to post, but she isn't annoyingly chipper. Just has an annoying voice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s5yHUpumkY
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Office Space. Oddly I was actually thinking of this gal when I came in to post, but she isn't annoyingly chipper. Just has an annoying voice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s5yHUpumkY
That is definitely me today.
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Power out. Sump pump not working. Basement flooded. Ugh.
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Power out. Sump pump not working. Basement flooded. Ugh.
Fuck. You don't have a generator??
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Just got a new one but with the dad stuff and work I haven't assembled it
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Power out. Sump pump not working. Basement flooded. Ugh.
Fucking hell. This should be upgraded to the 'pissed off' thread Joe for sure.
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Worst timing. Just trying to stay warm.
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Damn Joe! Fucking brutal timing all around.
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It's been a rough 2 weeks for sure.
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It's been a rough 2 weeks for sure.
That's the understatement of the year.
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Power came on for 2 minutes. So realistically, it's been out for 6 & 1/2 hours.
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Power out. Sump pump not working. Basement flooded. Ugh.
Dang, that sucks. I've had that happen before, but thankfully in a rental so it wasn't my cost to fix. We installed a sump pump with a battery backup earlier this summer before we finished our basement. It wasn't that expensive and it has given me huge piece of mind. It included redundant pumps so it will back us up if the power goes out or if the first pump fails for some reason.
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Going to add that and getting an electrician to set up the switchover for our new generator. Power came back on at 5am.
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I'm glad you have power back. That sucks big time.
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Sorry King. Sounds like a right old nightmare.
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No cable still. NOOOOOO!!!
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I hate that. It's such a tease.
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House still is cold. Needs to warm up more.
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Ugh, that sucks. :(
It was -3 yesterday here when I left for work. It is 17 today, so it feels like a heat wave. :lol :lol
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Cable is back!
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Cable is back!
Just in time for a thrilling Pats game! :lol
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Talk about exasperating! :lol
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Talk about exasperating! :lol
A tad! ;D
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Given the amount of shit going on in the world, I may have to upgrade the thread title to "somewhat exapserating".
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I'm at my parents house for Christmas and the toilet paper in the guest bathroom is prison grade. It has to be half ply at best and it should be illegal to sell it to regular consumers.
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It's been a rough 52 weeks for sure.
FTFY.
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It's been a rough 52 weeks for sure.
FTFY.
Agreed. 2022 sucked ass afaic.
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It's been a rough 52 weeks for sure.
FTFY.
Agreed. 2022 sucked ass afaic.
Don’t let Stadler hear you say that.
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Dad back in the ER. They rushed him too fast to the rehab. Never fully took care of the pneumonia. His oxygen level was at 80%
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Awful news.
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Dad back in the ER. They rushed him too fast to the rehab. Never fully took care of the pneumonia. His oxygen level was at 80%
FFS mate.
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Gimme a 2! Gimme a 0! Ah, I give up. 🤮🤮
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Dad back in the ER. They rushed him too fast to the rehab. Never fully took care of the pneumonia. His oxygen level was at 80%
Damn. Hoping for the best for you and your family.
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Dad back in the ER. They rushed him too fast to the rehab. Never fully took care of the pneumonia. His oxygen level was at 80%
Just checked into the thread. Sorry about your ongoing troubles.
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Thanks El Barto. Thank you everyone. Just frustrating. When he first was in the ER and the hospital, I gave them my concerns about him not being completely out of the woods with the pneumonia. The problem is my dad has MS and it's known to affect elderly that have MS with eating and drinking. He is aspirating. It's common with elderly that have MS so more fluids are getting to his lungs. Why they would transfer him to Rehab is beyond me. Now they have him on a BiPap. It helps breath both inhaling and exhaling. His oxygen was at 80%. The system is so frustrating.
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My company has been scrambling to get everyone to watch our annual harassment training videos. It's about an hour's worth of videos.
I personally have been having so many problems with the website we use... Create and account and then it won't let me log in. When I finally FINALLY was able to sit and watch some of them... It forced me to restart the Sexual Harassment vid like 8 times It booted me out without saving my progress.
Came into work early this morning to try it again and I'm finally fucking able to get through them. I had to explain to my ops manager, who's here right now setting things up for the day, that I've watched the Sexual harassment portion so many times that I can repeat it almost word for word :lol
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My company has been scrambling to get everyone to watch our annual harassment training videos. It's about an hour's worth of videos.
I personally have been having so many problems with the website we use... Create and account and then it won't let me log in. When I finally FINALLY was able to sit and watch some of them... It forced me to restart the Sexual Harassment vid like 8 times It booted me out without saving my progress.
Came into work early this morning to try it again and I'm finally fucking able to get through them. I had to explain to my ops manager, who's here right now setting things up for the day, that I've watched the Sexual harassment portion so many times that I can repeat it almost word for word :lol
I dare you to. :biggrin:
Those vids are so cringey when they enact the situations about what *not* to do.
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When I was at a law firm, our sexual harassment training was done live by one of the partners from our labor/employment department. It was super entertaining to hear some of the older partners ask questions (both factiously and not) about what was and wasn't permissible.
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My company has been scrambling to get everyone to watch our annual harassment training videos. It's about an hour's worth of videos.
I personally have been having so many problems with the website we use... Create and account and then it won't let me log in. When I finally FINALLY was able to sit and watch some of them... It forced me to restart the Sexual Harassment vid like 8 times It booted me out without saving my progress.
Came into work early this morning to try it again and I'm finally fucking able to get through them. I had to explain to my ops manager, who's here right now setting things up for the day, that I've watched the Sexual harassment portion so many times that I can repeat it almost word for word :lol
I dare you to. :biggrin:
Those vids are so cringey when they enact the situations about what *not* to do.
I often wonder if the people writing the skits for those situations have ever been in an office environment. I'll fully admit I could be lucky and just have a group of awesome coworkers but some of the things in the videos just seem too outlandish. I've gotten the same set of videos two years in a row and I'm curious if the new training I need to take by the end of February has some things shaken up a bit.
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Years ago when my oldest son was a baby I was up one night with him and there was an infomercial on. The actress from the infomercial I recognized from my company's sexual harassment video. The infomercial...was for a male enhancement pill. WTF??
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My company's sexual harassment video features Faruq from Battlebots.
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Years ago when my oldest son was a baby I was up one night with him and there was an infomercial on. The actress from the infomercial I recognized from my company's sexual harassment video. The infomercial...was for a male enhancement pill. WTF??
That's some rich irony.
My company's sexual harassment video features Faruq from Battlebots.
That's some rich irony.
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Years ago when my oldest son was a baby I was up one night with him and there was an infomercial on. The actress from the infomercial I recognized from my company's sexual harassment video. The infomercial...was for a male enhancement pill. WTF??
Well, no wonder she was getting sexually harassed. ;D
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Years ago when my oldest son was a baby I was up one night with him and there was an infomercial on. The actress from the infomercial I recognized from my company's sexual harassment video. The infomercial...was for a male enhancement pill. WTF??
Talk about mixed messages!
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Years ago when my oldest son was a baby I was up one night with him and there was an infomercial on. The actress from the infomercial I recognized from my company's sexual harassment video. The infomercial...was for a male enhancement pill. WTF??
Talk about mixed messages!
Is it really any wonder why men are so fucking confused? :lol
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Been working as a laborer for so long I almost forgot about these types of "trainings." My boss wants to know if you will show up on time, sober, work hard, and learn. Do that, he doesn't care much about anything else. He hired a family member, mostly as a favor, but he is working his butt off, who just got out on parole. Guy thinks everyone should only associate with people of the same race, has Aryan Circle tattoos all over his body... I guess diversity at the work place is good, right?
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Exasperated isn't really the right word, but...
One of the local Indian casinos has been running an ad for a giveaway they're doing on NYE. It's a McLaren 720S coupe, and one of the thing that they emphasize in the ad is that the car could "cut your southern California commute," which is absolutely laughable (unless this car flies). What they don't mention, of course is that the winner of this $300k car will have to pay roughly $120 in state and federal income tax, that the car gets shitty gas mileage, and that it would probably cost about $1k per month to insure the damn thing. In other words, there's almost no way that the winner will be able to afford to keep it. AND, since they're giving it away on the last day of the year, the winner will have only a month or two to get the thing sold.
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I don't know, the 720S is a serious car, the suspension on that thing is magic. :lol
I do get your point though about the taxes and resale, those things vary by state. Here in NC if you won a car you have until next year to pay taxes, additionally all prizes like that will have a cash payout in the small print for the reasons you state.
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I don't know, the 720S is a serious car, the suspension on that thing is magic. :lol
I do get your point though about the taxes and resale, those things vary by state. Here in NC if you won a car you have until next year to pay taxes, additionally all prizes like that will have a cash payout in the small print for the reasons you state.
If the prize is actually awarded on 12/31/22, then its income in 2022 for the purposes of federal taxes, and it would be for purposes of CA taxes (which is where this is happening). I'll pause it and check the fine print next time it comes on and see if it says anything about taking cash instead.
As far as the car itself, I'm sure it's just nifty, but if it doesn't fly, it ain't cutting anyone's commute time in Socal. That's the part I find most amusing.
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Other than the joke of it cutting the commute, I don't really see the issue here. Sure it comes with some cost, but just sell it for a "loss" and boom, you have a lot of cash. I've seen a video from MrBeast about this. If you don't know, this guy gives away lots of stuff including cars and even a plane before. He's had people complain that his winners get stuck with something they can't afford, but he states that those people will often sell the item back to him if they can't sell it themselves, which many do. You just offload it below face value so someone gets it off your hands quickly but you end up with a lot of cash and wayyyy in the positive in the end. Winning that car may be too much (it would be too much for me to afford for example) but I'd be stoked to win that and sell it, even if paying all the taxes, that's going to be siginifant amount of money.
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So...after a couple more viewings, I learned that they gave the car away yesterday, so the tax issue wouldn't come up for a year-plus. I guess you'd have to see the commercial to understand my amusement (like I said, not really exasperating). It was a John Facenda-like voice saying, "It goes 0-60 in 2.6 seconds," and I just imagined the voice then saying, "It will saddle you with tax liability that's probably greater than your annual income; it gets a paltry 15mph and will cost you more to insure for a year than your current car is worth." The commercial almost parodied itself.
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Is this the commercial?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czRxSKXXneA
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Is this the commercial?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czRxSKXXneA
That's the one.
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When you have three bank accounts, all that use Zelle, a credit card, a PayPal account, and cash on hand, and someone will only accept a payment via Venmo.
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When you have three bank accounts, all that use Zelle, a credit card, a PayPal account, and cash on hand, and someone will only accept a payment via Venmo.
Sounds like a piss poor business strategy (either that or a great strategy for driving away potential customers).
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I went to pick up 4 things at Costco, ended up buying like 45 items instead. Goddamn it Costco and your lower bulk pricing.
On another note I see that eggs have gone up crazy in price. Either they've been this way for a while and I didn't notice but we buy the Greenwise brand from Publix and 18 eggs cost almost $10. Just insane.
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The eggs thing is a bit perplexing to me because while prices near me have double and tripled in some spots and there's usually a sign explaining that due to shortages the prices need to reflect accordingly, etc. I have yet to come across an egg refrigerator in a grocery store that was under 80% full at all times since the prices went up. Perhaps there's an actual shortage on the horizon but for the last several months where the prices have skyrocketed I've yet to see evidence in the stores that the signs they put up are accurate.
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That's the price of cage free and new cage sizes.
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I feel like this egg thing is nothing more than price gouging. $5 a dozen at Aldi yesterday. There were two huge racks of eggs. No apparent shortage. Big Egg is seeing how everything is going up in price and wants in on the action and uses some excuses to jack up prices. Felt that way with gas too when it got so high.
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I feel like this egg thing is nothing more than price gouging. $5 a dozen at Aldi yesterday. There were two huge racks of eggs. No apparent shortage. Big Egg is seeing how everything is going up in price and wants in on the action and uses some excuses to jack up prices. Felt that way with gas too when it got so high.
"Big Egg"? We've gone too far! :) :) :) :) :)
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Un oeuf is un oeuf!
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I feel like this egg thing is nothing more than price gouging. $5 a dozen at Aldi yesterday. There were two huge racks of eggs. No apparent shortage. Big Egg is seeing how everything is going up in price and wants in on the action and uses some excuses to jack up prices. Felt that way with gas too when it got so high.
Perhaps, but it's just as likely that there's no shortage at the retail endpoint because of the price, and some are deciding "nope, I can do without eggs for the time being".
Economics!!
Suppliers (wholesale or retail) don't just randomly raise prices to the point of not being able to sell things. There's a supply and demand equation that is the primary driver of pricing decisions.
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I guess the flu had been devastating. They've had to kill a lot of the chickens because of the flu.
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I feel like this egg thing is nothing more than price gouging. $5 a dozen at Aldi yesterday. There were two huge racks of eggs. No apparent shortage. Big Egg is seeing how everything is going up in price and wants in on the action and uses some excuses to jack up prices. Felt that way with gas too when it got so high.
Perhaps, but it's just as likely that there's no shortage at the retail endpoint because of the price, and some are deciding "nope, I can do without eggs for the time being".
Economics!!
Suppliers (wholesale or retail) don't just randomly raise prices to the point of not being able to sell things. There's a supply and demand equation that is the primary driver of pricing decisions.
That's likely a component for sure.
We haven't even seen the true shortage yet. A lot of current pricing is probably a combination of gouging and futures. Current egg supply is fine. The egg supply over the next few months is what's going to be an issue. You'll start seeing holes in dairy aisles. We saw it with toilet paper, Lysol wipes, and baby formula during covid.
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I feel like this egg thing is nothing more than price gouging. $5 a dozen at Aldi yesterday. There were two huge racks of eggs. No apparent shortage. Big Egg is seeing how everything is going up in price and wants in on the action and uses some excuses to jack up prices. Felt that way with gas too when it got so high.
Perhaps, but it's just as likely that there's no shortage at the retail endpoint because of the price, and some are deciding "nope, I can do without eggs for the time being".
Economics!!
Suppliers (wholesale or retail) don't just randomly raise prices to the point of not being able to sell things. There's a supply and demand equation that is the primary driver of pricing decisions.
That's likely a component for sure.
We haven't even seen the true shortage yet. A lot of current pricing is probably a combination of gouging and futures. Current egg supply is fine. The egg supply over the next few months is what's going to be an issue. You'll start seeing holes in dairy aisles. We saw it with toilet paper, Lysol wipes, and baby formula during covid.
Not to mention cold/flu medication over the past 8-10 weeks.
A lot of those itesm had to do with both an increase in demand AND a reduction in supply. At least the demand for eggs should largely be unaffected, and it will largely be just the supply-side that drives the prices up.
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I feel like this egg thing is nothing more than price gouging. $5 a dozen at Aldi yesterday. There were two huge racks of eggs. No apparent shortage. Big Egg is seeing how everything is going up in price and wants in on the action and uses some excuses to jack up prices. Felt that way with gas too when it got so high.
Perhaps, but it's just as likely that there's no shortage at the retail endpoint because of the price, and some are deciding "nope, I can do without eggs for the time being".
That's true. I only bought one dozen instead of my usual 2.
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I guess the flu had been devastating. They've had to kill a lot of the chickens because of the flu.
Now is this affecting all chicken supplies? Or is it just having an effect on the chickens that are specifically for Eggs? Because if it's as bad as it seems, this means that Chicken prices, and not just eggs, would raise in price. And that means we would either have to raise prices or go to one of our other cheaper chicken producers.
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I guess the flu had been devastating. They've had to kill a lot of the chickens because of the flu.
Now is this affecting all chicken supplies? Or is it just having an effect on the chickens that are specifically for Eggs? Because if it's as bad as it seems, this means that Chicken prices, and not just eggs, would raise in price. And that means we would either have to raise prices or go to one of our other cheaper chicken producers.
https://www.agri-pulse.com/articles/17767-bird-flu-contributes-to-consumer-price-spike-for-eggs-smaller-shock-to-chicken
This quote is from late November so I'd assume the #'s have gone up.
"The U.S. Department of Agriculture says more than 52.3 million birds in 46 states — mostly chickens and turkeys on commercial farms — have been slaughtered as part of this year's outbreak.Nov 27, 2022."
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Lately, I am seeing this have an effect on the price of chicken meat as well.
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Well, if we talk about effects and consequences. When we rely on others for things that we could be relying on ourselves for, then you face the consequences of the effects of mass production. Which means the consumers of those mass produced products will pay the price.
The way chickens are farmed for mass production, it doesn't surprise me one bit they're all dying from bird flu. These are the type of things I am saying will continue to occur when all these resources reach their limits, when human desire and greed depletes the resources. What will humans do to survive when the well runs dry?
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Well, if we talk about effects and consequences. When we rely on others for things that we could be relying on ourselves for, then you face the consequences of the effects of mass production. Which means the consumers of those mass produced products will pay the price.
The way chickens are farmed for mass production, it doesn't surprise me one bit they're all dying from bird flu. These are the type of things I am saying will continue to occur when all these resources reach their limits, when human desire and greed depletes the resources. What will humans do to survive when the well runs dry?
From some of the humans I deal with daily probably become cannibals and turn on each other.
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Well, if we talk about effects and consequences. When we rely on others for things that we could be relying on ourselves for, then you face the consequences of the effects of mass production. Which means the consumers of those mass produced products will pay the price.
The way chickens are farmed for mass production, it doesn't surprise me one bit they're all dying from bird flu. These are the type of things I am saying will continue to occur when all these resources reach their limits, when human desire and greed depletes the resources. What will humans do to survive when the well runs dry?
From some of the humans I deal with daily probably become cannibals and turn on each other.
And why would they resort to that, rather than resort to doing what many cultures were already doing by planting, foraging, and hunting for food?
Could it be because humans have become reliant on having things done for them?
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Well, if we talk about effects and consequences. When we rely on others for things that we could be relying on ourselves for, then you face the consequences of the effects of mass production. Which means the consumers of those mass produced products will pay the price.
The way chickens are farmed for mass production, it doesn't surprise me one bit they're all dying from bird flu. These are the type of things I am saying will continue to occur when all these resources reach their limits, when human desire and greed depletes the resources. What will humans do to survive when the well runs dry?
From some of the humans I deal with daily probably become cannibals and turn on each other.
And why would they resort to that, rather than resort to doing what many cultures were already doing by planting, foraging, and hunting for food?
Could it be because humans have become reliant on having things done for them?
Most people don't have the land to plant or hunt things on. I have over an acre, which is far more than most, but I would dream of being self sufficient on that much land. Of course we've become reliant on others to do things for us. It's been that way for hundreds of years.
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Well, if we talk about effects and consequences. When we rely on others for things that we could be relying on ourselves for, then you face the consequences of the effects of mass production. Which means the consumers of those mass produced products will pay the price.
The way chickens are farmed for mass production, it doesn't surprise me one bit they're all dying from bird flu. These are the type of things I am saying will continue to occur when all these resources reach their limits, when human desire and greed depletes the resources. What will humans do to survive when the well runs dry?
From some of the humans I deal with daily probably become cannibals and turn on each other.
And why would they resort to that, rather than resort to doing what many cultures were already doing by planting, foraging, and hunting for food?
Could it be because humans have become reliant on having things done for them?
Most people don't have the land to plant or hunt things on. I have over an acre, which is far more than most, but I would dream of being self sufficient on that much land. Of course we've become reliant on others to do things for us. It's been that way for hundreds of years.
That's due to mass production, Industrialization, which is related to the entire World Trade Organization. It is how we get the goods we all enjoy today. When one culture ventured off, they discovered many things they enjoyed and wanted to also enjoy at their homelands. This led to what is colonization as people wanted to stay and enjoy these things, and it also led to many other things as well such as the labor to produce and farm these resources, Urbanization. Many people who do farm do not farm just for themselves either. They farm for others within their local communities. This is because you can grow a lot with that acre, you'd be amazed at how much one person is capable of farming on their own.
If we are to be reliant on mass production, we then have to face the inevitable when those resources dwindle and there's nothing one can do since the place where these resources come from aren't producing the product.
What people are actually doing is going to the local farmers markets and buying their eggs locally. But even at that, their supply can't meet that demand for eggs. This is because the human consumption of eggs far outweighs the amount of supply their chickens can produce.
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How much can you grow in an 800 square foot apartment on the 18th floor in San Fran?
Ben, it's the 21st Century. 7 BILLION people cannot self sustain themselves with their own crops, and their own water supply, their own electricity and heating, make their own clothes, et cetera et cetera. Humanity and society long outgrew the model where each person/family unit was wholly responsible for the entirety of their existence.
Also, not everything relates back to colonization.
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Well, if we talk about effects and consequences. When we rely on others for things that we could be relying on ourselves for, then you face the consequences of the effects of mass production. Which means the consumers of those mass produced products will pay the price.
The way chickens are farmed for mass production, it doesn't surprise me one bit they're all dying from bird flu. These are the type of things I am saying will continue to occur when all these resources reach their limits, when human desire and greed depletes the resources. What will humans do to survive when the well runs dry?
From some of the humans I deal with daily probably become cannibals and turn on each other.
And why would they resort to that, rather than resort to doing what many cultures were already doing by planting, foraging, and hunting for food?
Could it be because humans have become reliant on having things done for them?
:lol I was just making a joke about some of the inbred, unintelligent and drug fucked zombie like dregs I see daily. Ben, some people are lucky to know which part of the drive thru box to speak into to place their order in let alone grow their own food.
Also, animals hunt us over here, not the other way around.
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Also, animals hunt us over here, not the other way around.
:lol
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Also, animals hunt us over here, not the other way around.
I heard you guys have drop-bears down there. Scary stuff!
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What's a drop-bear?
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Carnivorous Koalas.
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Also, animals hunt us over here, not the other way around.
Yakov Smirnoff is that you? :lol
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Also, animals hunt us over here, not the other way around.
Yakov Smirnoff is that you? :lol
America loves Smirnov.
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(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5761baff746fb9f420bb3ffc/1585326580109-XHCXA2A37M4DP4QJRRPY/Yakov-Smirnoff21.jpg)
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How much can you grow in an 800 square foot apartment on the 18th floor in San Fran?
Ben, it's the 21st Century. 7 BILLION people cannot self sustain themselves with their own crops, and their own water supply, their own electricity and heating, make their own clothes, et cetera et cetera. Humanity and society long outgrew the model where each person/family unit was wholly responsible for the entirety of their existence.
Also, not everything relates back to colonization.
Then humans will have to learn the consequences for not being self-sustaining and developing these things.
Have you heard the Pain of Salvation album "BE"? The song "Nihil Morari" has a great lyric;
"You think we have developed fast; that we're civilized and intelligent
I'll let you in on a secret: we have developed Things!
The rest is simply knowledge passed on
Hell, 99% of humanity couldn't put together a simple light bulb if you put a gun to their heads!
And the intellect rubs up on fear"
"Humanity" thinks it outgrew and is evolving the species. Humanity is in quotes because not all of humanity thinks that the "accomplishments" of the 21st century were beneficial for the overall sustainability of humanities future. Many considered what consequences these "accomplishments" would have on humanity, yet they were ignored.
Nihil Morari is about what I am mentioning here. The entire album of "BE" goes way, way deeper than just being a concept album.
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Chad hates POS. :lol
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Nihil Morari is about what I am mentioning here.
Haven't seen him around here in ages.
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Well, if we talk about effects and consequences. When we rely on others for things that we could be relying on ourselves for, then you face the consequences of the effects of mass production. Which means the consumers of those mass produced products will pay the price.
The way chickens are farmed for mass production, it doesn't surprise me one bit they're all dying from bird flu. These are the type of things I am saying will continue to occur when all these resources reach their limits, when human desire and greed depletes the resources. What will humans do to survive when the well runs dry?
From some of the humans I deal with daily probably become cannibals and turn on each other.
And why would they resort to that, rather than resort to doing what many cultures were already doing by planting, foraging, and hunting for food?
Could it be because humans have become reliant on having things done for them?
:lol I was just making a joke about some of the inbred, unintelligent and drug fucked zombie like dregs I see daily. Ben, some people are lucky to know which part of the drive thru box to speak into to place their order in let alone grow their own food.
Also, animals hunt us over here, not the other way around.
Exactly, because most of modern humanity doesn't have basic survival skills anymore. You could argue Humanity as a whole, hasn't evolved, we devolved to become even more susceptible to death.
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Chad hates POS. :lol
I can see why now. :biggrin:
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To be fair, Pain of Salvation is dreadful, so hating them seems fairly logical.
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Oh, dems fightin' words.
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Not sure why we're talking about Pain of Salvation but they're amazing and anyone who disagrees is a doody head.
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LOOK WHAT YOU STARTED BEN!! :lol
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Ben, it's the 21st Century. 7 8 BILLION people cannot self sustain themselves with their own crops, and their own water supply, their own electricity and heating, make their own clothes, et cetera et cetera.
FTFY
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Also, animals hunt us over here, not the other way around.
I heard you guys have drop-bears down there. Scary stuff!
You never know when they are gonna fall from the trees. :lol
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Well, if we talk about effects and consequences. When we rely on others for things that we could be relying on ourselves for, then you face the consequences of the effects of mass production. Which means the consumers of those mass produced products will pay the price.
The way chickens are farmed for mass production, it doesn't surprise me one bit they're all dying from bird flu. These are the type of things I am saying will continue to occur when all these resources reach their limits, when human desire and greed depletes the resources. What will humans do to survive when the well runs dry?
From some of the humans I deal with daily probably become cannibals and turn on each other.
And why would they resort to that, rather than resort to doing what many cultures were already doing by planting, foraging, and hunting for food?
Could it be because humans have become reliant on having things done for them?
:lol I was just making a joke about some of the inbred, unintelligent and drug fucked zombie like dregs I see daily. Ben, some people are lucky to know which part of the drive thru box to speak into to place their order in let alone grow their own food.
Also, animals hunt us over here, not the other way around.
Exactly, because most of modern humanity doesn't have basic survival skills anymore. You could argue Humanity as a whole, hasn't evolved, we devolved to become even more susceptible to death.
I actually won't argue with that. But maybe I'm naive, or I just don't give a fuck, but is humanity really going to devolve that much that the entire human race is going to have to hunt for food and grow their own vegetables.........seems unlikely.
BE is an amazing album too. What an experience. Gildenlow does have a pretty on point view. I was listening to Scarsick yesterday and even lyrics in some of the songs on that one seem more relevant today than when it came out.
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Also, animals hunt us over here, not the other way around.
Yakov Smirnoff is that you? :lol
I have no idea who this was so I googled. I still have no idea who this is. :lol
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:lol
https://youtu.be/2pEApsuaa1o
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Ben, it's the 21st Century. 7 8 BILLION people cannot self sustain themselves with their own crops, and their own water supply, their own electricity and heating, make their own clothes, et cetera et cetera.
FTFY
Oh yeah, right. I'd heard we passed that threshold late last year - despite China's population actually decreasing in 2022!
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Oh, dems fightin' words.
Take it to P/R, please.
:) :) :) :) :)
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Well, if we talk about effects and consequences. When we rely on others for things that we could be relying on ourselves for, then you face the consequences of the effects of mass production. Which means the consumers of those mass produced products will pay the price.
The way chickens are farmed for mass production, it doesn't surprise me one bit they're all dying from bird flu. These are the type of things I am saying will continue to occur when all these resources reach their limits, when human desire and greed depletes the resources. What will humans do to survive when the well runs dry?
From some of the humans I deal with daily probably become cannibals and turn on each other.
And why would they resort to that, rather than resort to doing what many cultures were already doing by planting, foraging, and hunting for food?
Could it be because humans have become reliant on having things done for them?
:lol I was just making a joke about some of the inbred, unintelligent and drug fucked zombie like dregs I see daily. Ben, some people are lucky to know which part of the drive thru box to speak into to place their order in let alone grow their own food.
Also, animals hunt us over here, not the other way around.
There's a middle ground, though. I don't have to grow cattle or tend chickens. But where I live, it's just as close to a local farm that does than it is to go to Walmart. People are just lazy, that's all (and yes, it's lazy. I get we're basing all this on the small sector of people that work three jobs and are single parents, but even then, it's just as easy to go to your local farm and get supplies than it is to go to Walmart and do the same thing).
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Local farms in CT probably couldn't handle even 1% of Connecticut's egg demand though. If every person in the state woke up no longer lazy, there's no way local farms could sustain any significant portion of our state's population, and we're a small one.
Cost is probably a factor too. A pound of beef from a farm in Goshen, Litchfield, or Bethlehem will cost you at least double what Walmart would charge you. Thinking about Waterbury, where I live, the closest local farm I could get eggs from is about 15 minutes away, and they have like 3 things on my shopping list, tops. It's far more cost effective, and certainly not lazy, to just just get your eggs at Walmart instead. Once you factor in time and the cost of gas, there's no sense in going out to Bumblefuck just for eggs and whatever few veggies are in season.
There's middle ground for us with our living arrangement, sure. But what middle ground is there for the 1.7M people that live in Manhattan?
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Three words to summarize a lot of this ... economies of scale.
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Oh, dems fightin' words.
Take it to P/R, please.
:) :) :) :) :)
The Pain of Salvation is/Really excellent forum?
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There's just a whole lot wrong with this. If we all have to spend our time hunting for meat and growing our own veggies who's going to be left to manufacture 84" OLED TVs to hang on our walls? People will naturally have to specialize and we'll work out a barter system, so I can produce eggs in exchange for the other things I might need. In other words, exactly what happened 5000 years ago. We've been down this path before.
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There's just a whole lot wrong with this. If we all have to spend our time hunting for meat and growing our own veggies who's going to be left to manufacture 84" OLED TVs to hang on our walls? People will naturally have to specialize and we'll work out a barter system, so I can produce eggs in exchange for the other things I might need. In other words, exactly what happened 5000 years ago. We've been down this path before.
Yeah, I'm really confused with this conversation. If we went back to the stone age, people would still specialize. Every family wouldn't fend for themselves alone. I'd imagine everyone would have to be useful in something to contribute to the group. Maybe the biggest difference would be that the people who don't contribute (lazy), don't get to stick around.
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Local farms in CT probably couldn't handle even 1% of Connecticut's egg demand though. If every person in the state woke up no longer lazy, there's no way local farms could sustain any significant portion of our state's population, and we're a small one.
Cost is probably a factor too. A pound of beef from a farm in Goshen, Litchfield, or Bethlehem will cost you at least double what Walmart would charge you. Thinking about Waterbury, where I live, the closest local farm I could get eggs from is about 15 minutes away, and they have like 3 things on my shopping list, tops. It's far more cost effective, and certainly not lazy, to just just get your eggs at Walmart instead. Once you factor in time and the cost of gas, there's no sense in going out to Bumblefuck just for eggs and whatever few veggies are in season.
There's middle ground for us with our living arrangement, sure. But what middle ground is there for the 1.7M people that live in Manhattan?
it's fair for you to call me out here. I was sort of thinking in my head about a sort of specific line of debate; I mentioned "Walmart" but was also thinking "McDonald's". You're of course correct in most of what you're saying there, particularly about cost and volume. I do think, though, that on the whole we are an "easy way out" society. We'd much rather buy something in a box, pouch or container than out of the ground.
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There's just a whole lot wrong with this. If we all have to spend our time hunting for meat and growing our own veggies who's going to be left to manufacture 84" OLED TVs to hang on our walls? People will naturally have to specialize and we'll work out a barter system, so I can produce eggs in exchange for the other things I might need. In other words, exactly what happened 5000 years ago. We've been down this path before.
Yeah, I'm really confused with this conversation. If we went back to the stone age, people would still specialize. Every family wouldn't fend for themselves alone. I'd imagine everyone would have to be useful in something to contribute to the group. Maybe the biggest difference would be that the people who don't contribute (lazy), don't get to stick around.
For the record, I'm not suggesting we go back to the Stone Age, and I'm fully on board with El Barto (and in fact, I go further than him; we - Americans - shouldn't be building TV's either. We should be in education, medicine and technology and let other countries do the heavy lift for our entertainment needs). I just think there are little things that we can do as individuals that we don't do because we're, at essence, lazy. Or maybe a better word is "pacified".
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Two things for today:
I'm in DC for an annual industry conference. I've been to enough of these that there's virtually nothing being presented that I don't already know, and I'm not big into the schmoozing part of it (I'm a schmoozee), so I skipped the late morning session. Anyway...I CANNOT stand when the people putting these things on cannot stick to the schedule. The first thing on the schedule is "introductory remarks," followed by someone getting the Milton J. Schmeckerton Award (or whatever it's called). Between the people fellating the guy who got the award and said guy blathering about all the people he needed to think, we were already 10 minutes behind schedule. Get a damn watch, people!
Thing #2 is the placement of the toilet paper in the hotel room bathroom. I basically had to dislocate my shoulder to reach it. WTF?!
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Well, if we talk about effects and consequences. When we rely on others for things that we could be relying on ourselves for, then you face the consequences of the effects of mass production. Which means the consumers of those mass produced products will pay the price.
The way chickens are farmed for mass production, it doesn't surprise me one bit they're all dying from bird flu. These are the type of things I am saying will continue to occur when all these resources reach their limits, when human desire and greed depletes the resources. What will humans do to survive when the well runs dry?
From some of the humans I deal with daily probably become cannibals and turn on each other.
And why would they resort to that, rather than resort to doing what many cultures were already doing by planting, foraging, and hunting for food?
Could it be because humans have become reliant on having things done for them?
:lol I was just making a joke about some of the inbred, unintelligent and drug fucked zombie like dregs I see daily. Ben, some people are lucky to know which part of the drive thru box to speak into to place their order in let alone grow their own food.
Also, animals hunt us over here, not the other way around.
There's a middle ground, though. I don't have to grow cattle or tend chickens. But where I live, it's just as close to a local farm that does than it is to go to Walmart. People are just lazy, that's all (and yes, it's lazy. I get we're basing all this on the small sector of people that work three jobs and are single parents, but even then, it's just as easy to go to your local farm and get supplies than it is to go to Walmart and do the same thing).
I think it's also convenience besides just laziness. It's exactly why we have apps now such as Door Dash and Uber Eats, people have become more "lazy" because of conveniences such as these, It's easier to do this and it's less work to do this. Yet, people get upset when their food doesn't get delivered or it's cold, and I am there like "Well Duh." If you don't want your food stolen or you want your food fresh and hot, then come into the store and order there. But since your too lazy and it's convenient to just have it delivered to you, than that's the risk you take when utilizing the services of Door Dash and Uber Eats, not to mention the fees for delivering your food, which is hilarious when people use it just to order fries.
Local farms in CT probably couldn't handle even 1% of Connecticut's egg demand though. If every person in the state woke up no longer lazy, there's no way local farms could sustain any significant portion of our state's population, and we're a small one.
Cost is probably a factor too. A pound of beef from a farm in Goshen, Litchfield, or Bethlehem will cost you at least double what Walmart would charge you. Thinking about Waterbury, where I live, the closest local farm I could get eggs from is about 15 minutes away, and they have like 3 things on my shopping list, tops. It's far more cost effective, and certainly not lazy, to just just get your eggs at Walmart instead. Once you factor in time and the cost of gas, there's no sense in going out to Bumblefuck just for eggs and whatever few veggies are in season.
There's middle ground for us with our living arrangement, sure. But what middle ground is there for the 1.7M people that live in Manhattan?
They could, if more people went out and worked for that farm. But then as I said, the human demand for Eggs far outweighs the supply that Chickens are capable of giving. This is where the concept of Greed comes into play, how much do humans desire eggs, to the point of doing things to these Chickens just to satisfy the human desire for eggs as food.
The basis of a farmers market is the gathering of many farmers to present their produce and see if anyone wants any. WE grew squash and my father goes out to farmers markets to get food, he met and asked people there who are willing to barter squash for something, even eggs. This made me realize that without money, we would just go back to basic bartering system we Indigenous Peoples of America had in place long before the arrival of the European Colonists and their concept of "Money". This is what I find fascinating is how we didn't necessarily have a money system, our system was based on bartering, and we bartered many things that we couldn't find around our environment. When we traveled, we would also trade for things we could only get there and would only enjoy it there because it would spoil or go bad by the time one would return home. There was no worry or need for the concept of "costs". The only value was whether a person desires that squash or desires something else for whatever product you desire. The more a person desires something, the more they are willing to offer/pay/trade.
Mississippian Indians Travel and Trade (https://youtu.be/39MalKHNhQU)
The Mississippian Culture: The Lost American Civilization (Documentary) (https://youtu.be/LcxY_AgCMoo)
Original Indigenous Economies | The Renewing Indigenous Economies Project (https://youtu.be/2_ofEKjbCbo)
There's just a whole lot wrong with this. If we all have to spend our time hunting for meat and growing our own veggies who's going to be left to manufacture 84" OLED TVs to hang on our walls? People will naturally have to specialize and we'll work out a barter system, so I can produce eggs in exchange for the other things I might need. In other words, exactly what happened 5000 years ago. We've been down this path before.
That's my point and the point of what Daniel says in the song "Nihil Morari". There was always specialists throughout human history. There were those who knew how to pot, how to sew, how to blacksmith, how to heal. But, are there people who know how to build themselves an 84" OLED TV from scratch on their own?
What involves making a Television Set? In order to gather these materials and labor, they had to build factories and get people to work in those manufacturing factories. What occurred was Urbanization and the formation of cities. Cities and towns were formed based on the factory alone, same thing goes for the mining towns. For humans to enjoy TV's, all this had to happen first, and all these things utilize resources from the Earth that people do go out and gather for the factories. Depleting land from trees that give us our oxygen, poisoning the water that's necessary for life, and causing layers in the atmosphere to dwindle such as the Ozone Layer.
I am also not saying we need to go back to the "Stone Age". I am saying, we need to utilize methods of production that won't deplete the Earth of it's resources. In other words, how long does it take Earth to replenish itself of these resources before humans dry the well.
LOOK WHAT YOU STARTED BEN!! :lol
I blame the Eggs.... :lol :lol
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This feels like the thread to put this:
Beyonce set the record last night for most Grammys wins ever last night, but according to some, the Grammys are racist because she has still never won Album of the Year. Right, the Grammys, that just had a ceremony that was practically a love letter to genres dominated by persons of color, are racist.
You can't make this shit up.
Yes, it is exasperating. Beyonce wins left and right, and some are still never happy.
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I think it's more exasperating her winning a Grammy for best EDM/dance album or track whatever.
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I don't know enough about that genre to speak of that, but it felt like they were trying to keep everyone happy last night. Beyonce got the EDM/Dance award, Taylor got the music video award, Adele got the pop solo award, Lizzo got record of the year, Styles got album of the year. They are all huge stars and were all there, so they all got to win something.
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I don't know enough about that genre to speak of that, but it felt like they were trying to keep everyone happy last night. Beyonce got the EDM/Dance award, Taylor got the music video award, Adele got the pop solo award, Lizzo got record of the year, Styles got album of the year. They are all huge stars and were all there, so they all got to win something.
Participation prizes. Wha, wha. :tdwn
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This feels like the thread to put this:
Beyonce set the record last night for most Grammys wins ever last night, but according to some, the Grammys are racist because she has still never won Album of the Year. Right, the Grammys, that just had a ceremony that was practically a love letter to genres dominated by persons of color, are racist.
You can't make this shit up.
Yes, it is exasperating. Beyonce wins left and right, and some are still never happy.
Such bull. There have been three African American winners of the Album of the Year since 2008: Herbie Hancock, Bruno Mars, and (last year) Jon Batiste. The quick math show that to be about 14%, which exactly mirrors the make up of the general population. This year, five of the ten candidates for AotY are of color (50%), and last year it was I think 6 out of 10 (not sure who "Doja Cat" is), or 60%. "Racism" is now a synonym for "my guy/gal didn't win".
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Beyonce set the record last night for most Grammys wins ever last night, but according to some, the Grammys are racist because she has still never won Album of the Year. Right, the Grammys, that just had a ceremony that was practically a love letter to genres dominated by persons of color, are racist.
You can't make this shit up.
Yes, it is exasperating. Beyonce wins left and right, and some are still never happy.
Who exactly are "some"?
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Beyonce set the record last night for most Grammys wins ever last night, but according to some, the Grammys are racist because she has still never won Album of the Year. Right, the Grammys, that just had a ceremony that was practically a love letter to genres dominated by persons of color, are racist.
You can't make this shit up.
Yes, it is exasperating. Beyonce wins left and right, and some are still never happy.
Who exactly are "some"?
Clearly those adhering to the false "racism" narrative.
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That kind of chatter is definitely happening, but it's mostly from the diehard Beyonce fans. I suspect they are trying to come up with a "reason" to rationalize why Queen Bee didn't win any of the big big awards.
It's more pathetic than anything.
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Clearly those adhering to the false "racism" narrative.
I meant specifically.
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Clearly those adhering to the false "racism" narrative.
I meant specifically.
Bob Smith
Carol Rafferty
Marinda Stockholm
James "Hootie" MacAlfey
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?? You really need names?
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Clearly those adhering to the false "racism" narrative.
I meant specifically.
Bob Smith
Carol Rafferty
Marinda Stockholm
James "Hootie" MacAlfey
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?? You really need names?
I went to high school with Hootie MacAfey!
Maybe Twitter and Instagram handles... @queenbeebiggestfan and @unstabletrollforbeyonce123 ? :lol :lol
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Bob Smith
Carol Rafferty
Marinda Stockholm
James "Hootie" MacAlfey
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?? You really need names?
Given I've not heard of any of them, apparently its not going to help.
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I also saw it being complained about by:
Hugh Jass
Mrs. BJ Smegma
Hercules Hochuli
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That kind of chatter is definitely happening, but it's mostly from the diehard Beyonce fans. I suspect they are trying to come up with a "reason" to rationalize why Queen Bee didn't win any of the big big awards.
It's more pathetic than anything.
Yup. And it's further proof that people are utilizing the term of "Racism" as an excuse.
To downgrade a bit...David Draiman of Disturbed has the best response for the Grammy's so far...
https://loudwire.com/david-draiman-praises-satanic-grammys-performance-set-bar-for-everyone/
"Lol, I don’t want anyone ever saying that Hard Rock/Heavy Metal live performances are too 'extreme' for the @RecordingAcad telecast… Because @samsmith just set the bar for EVERYONE last night."
Now let us see a performance by a Black Metal band, that is if they even go that far. :lol
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Sad to say, people crying racism are now by the boy who cried wolf, and that sucks because there still are legitimate cases of it, but so many scream it now over everything that it's lost all meaning.
It reminds me of a lady I worked with many, many years ago who would complain to the managers about every little thing. Probably one of 10 things were legit, but she complained so much that they just tuned her out, and it feels like that is what many of us now do with cries of racism, and, again, that sucks because there are still legit examples, but how are we supposed to know which ones to acknowledge when seemingly everything these days is racist?
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I spent some time reading a little about this, and I don't think it's all that simple. Of course there's no "proof" that it's racism; maybe it is, maybe someone has a beef with Beyonce for other reasons, maybe each time it was truly what the voters thought was "the best." But I kinda doubt it's ever the latter - or at least it rarely is. Part of me thinks it's a little silly that anyone should think one specific album is the only choice to win, but I don't think the outcry is just people making up reasons that their favorite didn't win either.
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Sad to say, people crying racism are now by the boy who cried wolf, and that sucks because there still are legitimate cases of it, but so many scream it now over everything that it's lost all meaning.
It reminds me of a lady I worked with many, many years ago who would complain to the managers about every little thing. Probably one of 10 things were legit, but she complained so much that they just tuned her out, and it feels like that is what many of us now do with cries of racism, and, again, that sucks because there are still legit examples, but how are we supposed to know which ones to acknowledge when seemingly everything these days is racist?
This is WAY too sane and logical a post for the internet.
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I spent some time reading a little about this, and I don't think it's all that simple. Of course there's no "proof" that it's racism; maybe it is, maybe someone has a beef with Beyonce for other reasons, maybe each time it was truly what the voters thought was "the best." But I kinda doubt it's ever the latter - or at least it rarely is. Part of me thinks it's a little silly that anyone should think one specific album is the only choice to win, but I don't think the outcry is just people making up reasons that their favorite didn't win either.
But the one doesn't mean the other. Meaning, just because it's not EXACTLY the record people thought the best doesn't therefore mean it's "racism". Preference happens all the time. When something like "best" - an inexact term even when a clear standard is set forth - is used, it's frivolous and self-serving to try to guess at the motives of some stranger (whom you've likely never met).
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Sad to say, people crying racism are now by the boy who cried wolf, and that sucks because there still are legitimate cases of it, but so many scream it now over everything that it's lost all meaning.
It reminds me of a lady I worked with many, many years ago who would complain to the managers about every little thing. Probably one of 10 things were legit, but she complained so much that they just tuned her out, and it feels like that is what many of us now do with cries of racism, and, again, that sucks because there are still legit examples, but how are we supposed to know which ones to acknowledge when seemingly everything these days is racist?
This is WAY too sane and logical a post for the internet.
Alternate hypothesis: all of these things were in fact problems of varying degrees, and the issue was people's capacity to care while participating in a system that has a tendency to burn through people's empathy.
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Sad to say, people crying racism are now by the boy who cried wolf, and that sucks because there still are legitimate cases of it, but so many scream it now over everything that it's lost all meaning.
It reminds me of a lady I worked with many, many years ago who would complain to the managers about every little thing. Probably one of 10 things were legit, but she complained so much that they just tuned her out, and it feels like that is what many of us now do with cries of racism, and, again, that sucks because there are still legit examples, but how are we supposed to know which ones to acknowledge when seemingly everything these days is racist?
This is WAY too sane and logical a post for the internet.
Alternate hypothesis: all of these things were in fact problems of varying degrees, and the issue was people's capacity to care while participating in a system that has a tendency to burn through people's empathy.
Again, though, NOT RACISM.
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That was a response to Kev's anecdote about the office specifically. It's certainly possible the decisions made by the voting bodies of the awards and the systems in place exhibit some racial bias, no matter how many "love letters" they do to black music. I don't think its an unreasonable discussion to be had.
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I listened to a podcast of critics about this, and while they didn't single out racism, they definitely thought Beyonce should have won a couple of those (I thought she would as well) and gave some reasons why they think it didn't happen. They stressed "traditionalism" instead of racism, but whatever.
The voters are limited to their specific fields for the most part (so that Bluegrass people aren't voting for Best Hip-Hop album, and vice versa), except for those biggest awards, where EVERYONE gets to vote. Which means that when you've got mostly pop-style artists nominated, but then you get a bunch on non-pop-style voting, you may not get the results you expect. Couple that with the fact that some of those bigger awards have expanded from 5 to 10 nominees means the possible splintering of votes becomes more exaggerated.
The puzzling thing for me is not that Beyonce DIDN'T win album of the year, but that Harry Styles DID. That was a fairly milquetoast, by-the-numbers pop music album. Certainly nothing groundbreaking, or even all that interesting. Beyonce would definitely had my vote over that.
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On the flip side, check out Liz Wheeler's Twitter post about how the Grammy's promote satanism which is coming for us all apparently.
Her numerous posts are chalk full of people literally fretting about Satan poisoning their children through music. It is very reminiscent of the Parents Music Resource Center in the 80s.
I guess turning the channel never occurred to them.
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I spent some time reading a little about this, and I don't think it's all that simple. Of course there's no "proof" that it's racism; maybe it is, maybe someone has a beef with Beyonce for other reasons, maybe each time it was truly what the voters thought was "the best." But I kinda doubt it's ever the latter - or at least it rarely is. Part of me thinks it's a little silly that anyone should think one specific album is the only choice to win, but I don't think the outcry is just people making up reasons that their favorite didn't win either.
But the one doesn't mean the other. Meaning, just because it's not EXACTLY the record people thought the best doesn't therefore mean it's "racism". Preference happens all the time. When something like "best" - an inexact term even when a clear standard is set forth - is used, it's frivolous and self-serving to try to guess at the motives of some stranger (whom you've likely never met).
Of course it doesn't mean that it is - it doesn't mean that it isn't either. It could be a combination of things or it could be none of it. But I just don't think people who think it is are all acting in bad faith.
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Of course it doesn't mean that it is - it doesn't mean that it isn't either. It could be a combination of things or it could be none of it. But I just don't think people who think it is are all acting in bad faith.
But that just goes back to the main problem of just assuming the problem is x and shouting about it every time. There being the possibility of anything is not a good enough reason, otherwise we can denounce anything and everything because "anything is possible."
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There are always going to be people shouting about something. I tend to ignore the short and sweet shouty tweets whether it would be about this, the Oscars, how their favorite team got robbed, or whatever. If someone gives more of an argument as to why it was racism or nepotism or favoritism or how their team got robbed, I'll read it and give it more thought. In a situation like this, it would probably be ridiculous of me to read something and decide yes, it's racism 100%. But whereas in the past my knee jerk reaction might have been to roll my eyes and sigh, now I'll consider it. I think it's a possible factor. And me and others entertaining that possibility I think is generally a good thing. It might make us look at our own behaviors and decision making more closely.
I get that this can be annoying, but I think it's probably more annoying on the flip side of it.
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On the flip side, check out Liz Wheeler's Twitter post about how the Grammy's promote satanism which is coming for us all apparently.
Read an article along those lines, or started to till I got annoyed.
I tend to lean right on many issues, and it seems whenever I start to feel good about conservatism and where it can lead our country, I come across something like this and just think "Really? This is where conservatism is at in 2023?"
Passed by a church on the way to school drop-off today, the sign said "If you want to try to be happy more often, try to be offended less often." Maybe paraphrasing, but I liked the sentiment.
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That was a response to Kev's anecdote about the office specifically. It's certainly possible the decisions made by the voting bodies of the awards and the systems in place exhibit some racial bias, no matter how many "love letters" they do to black music. I don't think its an unreasonable discussion to be had.
ANY discussion is reasonable to have, AS LONG AS WE DEAL IN FACTS, OBJECTIVELY, AND NOT FEELINGS. It's almost as if some of these pundits WANT there to be racism. I FEEL like it's there, therefore it MUST be, because I'm me, my feelings are important, I matter and whatever.
Look, BE CONSISTENT. If the Grammy's MIGHT be racist, because, well, anything is possible, then isn't it just as possible that, oh, I don't know, Trump ISN'T racist, but it just happened that all his business decisions were legitimately made on business decisions? Of course. Anything is possible. Now, I've written in the past that I DON'T think Trump is the raging racist that his naysayers need him to be in our absolute universe of good versus evil (I honestly think he doesn't care enough about anything other than himself to be a real racist) but I think most people see a predominance of behavior that seems to be rooted in an intent to prejudice.
And that's the rub. These organizations, this aspect of the notion of "systemic racism" is nonsense. It's ascribing a motivation, an intent, to an entity that really only has ONE motivation: EYEBALLS. They are going to promote who puts viewers in the seats, full stop. When that was Bruno Mars, Bruno Mars won. When that was Adele, Adele won. Beyonce is starting a tour, go fucking figure, and she wins a handful of awards. Harry Styles is as popular as ice cream on an August night, so they threw him a bone and gave him Album of the Year. This isn't rocket science, this isn't confusing, and race isn't 1,000 miles from these decisions. MONEY IS.
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I spent some time reading a little about this, and I don't think it's all that simple. Of course there's no "proof" that it's racism; maybe it is, maybe someone has a beef with Beyonce for other reasons, maybe each time it was truly what the voters thought was "the best." But I kinda doubt it's ever the latter - or at least it rarely is. Part of me thinks it's a little silly that anyone should think one specific album is the only choice to win, but I don't think the outcry is just people making up reasons that their favorite didn't win either.
But the one doesn't mean the other. Meaning, just because it's not EXACTLY the record people thought the best doesn't therefore mean it's "racism". Preference happens all the time. When something like "best" - an inexact term even when a clear standard is set forth - is used, it's frivolous and self-serving to try to guess at the motives of some stranger (whom you've likely never met).
Of course it doesn't mean that it is - it doesn't mean that it isn't either. It could be a combination of things or it could be none of it. But I just don't think people who think it is are all acting in bad faith.
Well, see what I wrote above; they kind of are. No matter what the "acting" is, if it's not in bad faith, then it should be objective, documentable, and in keeping with the facts of the matter at hand. HALF the potential albums this year were from artists of color. SIX OUT OF TEN were last year, and an African American won the award. Since 2008, about 14% of Album of the Year winners were persons of color (guess what the racial makeup of the United States is, rounded to the nearest whole number). Unless Beyonce is all of a sudden of her own race, I'm at a loss here how over the arc of the last fifteen years, there is documentable, provable, bias against artists of color. Now, METAL artists, let's talk. ;)
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There are always going to be people shouting about something. I tend to ignore the short and sweet shouty tweets whether it would be about this, the Oscars, how their favorite team got robbed, or whatever. If someone gives more of an argument as to why it was racism or nepotism or favoritism or how their team got robbed, I'll read it and give it more thought. In a situation like this, it would probably be ridiculous of me to read something and decide yes, it's racism 100%. But whereas in the past my knee jerk reaction might have been to roll my eyes and sigh, now I'll consider it. I think it's a possible factor. And me and others entertaining that possibility I think is generally a good thing. It might make us look at our own behaviors and decision making more closely.
I get that this can be annoying, but I think it's probably more annoying on the flip side of it.
And there's noting wrong with that. I'm the one that is usually arguing that all arguments should be put in the crucible of ideas, and I stand by that. Let's talk about it. Let's consider it. But again, the crucible is a fact-based, reality-based, objective measure. Give me something other than "Beyonce didn't win, Beyonce is a woman of color, ergo she didn't win because she's a person of color". That's not analysis. That's subjective opinion. I'm not interested in subjective opinion when it flies in the face of the data we have, or when it's used to trump more objective, fact-based hypotheses.
This smacks of the gun argument. "I know guns are in there somewhere, so...."
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There are always going to be people shouting about something. I tend to ignore the short and sweet shouty tweets whether it would be about this, the Oscars, how their favorite team got robbed, or whatever. If someone gives more of an argument as to why it was racism or nepotism or favoritism or how their team got robbed, I'll read it and give it more thought. In a situation like this, it would probably be ridiculous of me to read something and decide yes, it's racism 100%. But whereas in the past my knee jerk reaction might have been to roll my eyes and sigh, now I'll consider it. I think it's a possible factor. And me and others entertaining that possibility I think is generally a good thing. It might make us look at our own behaviors and decision making more closely.
I get that this can be annoying, but I think it's probably more annoying on the flip side of it.
Harry Styles took a rash of shit for saying "people like me" in his speech - meaning a poor kid from a single mom, making it big - because everyone assumed it was about race. For fucks sake, stop forcing your narrative on everyone. We hate it when it's religion, we hate it when it's conservatism, why is it so acceptable here?
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Harry Styles took a rash of shit for saying "people like me" in his speech - meaning a poor kid from a single mom, making it big - because everyone assumed it was about race. For fucks sake, stop forcing your narrative on everyone. We hate it when it's religion, we hate it when it's conservatism, why is it so acceptable here?
Can you imagine the reaction if Styles had had the unmitigated gall to, gasp, enjoy his victory on stage, similar to how Lizzo did? My gosh, the outrage would have been unreal.
And for the record, I have no issue with winners at these awards shows enjoying it, so long as they don't do it obnoxiously. You might only win one of these ever in your life, so enjoy it and live it up (gracefully).
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Beyonce set the record last night for most Grammys wins ever last night, but according to some, the Grammys are racist because she has still never won Album of the Year. Right, the Grammys, that just had a ceremony that was practically a love letter to genres dominated by persons of color, are racist.
You can't make this shit up.
Yes, it is exasperating. Beyonce wins left and right, and some are still never happy.
Who exactly are "some"?
I want to hit on this because it's important. "Say's who" is the first thing I though, as well. The answer is invariably "some random nobodies on Twitter that nobody's ever heard of." This happens time and time again. The outrage is essentially nonexistent until the media decides to make it so, and then people run with it. Right now Leonardo DiCaprio, 48, slammed over ‘romance’ with Eden Polani, 19, Says a bunch of nobodies.
If you hate that everybody is upset about this or that, and/or you hate that everybody needs their own opinions validated, maybe stop playing ball. It's a self-perpetuating problem only so long as people fail to recognize that they're the ones perpetuating it. Seems like I've been dumping on Kev all morning, and that was certainly not my intention, but bringing these things up only continues the cycle. If nobody talks about it then these random nobodies stop mattering.
If I were trying to teach critical thinking to kids, one of the very first lessons, and it'd be a big one, is to ask "says who" about every single thing they hear. If everybody would do this we'd all be better off.
And I'll point out that this is the very reason talk radio exists, and the reason I hate it so much.
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When it's a slow news day, just make a story out of something someone said on the internet. Works every time :lol
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Beyonce set the record last night for most Grammys wins ever last night, but according to some, the Grammys are racist because she has still never won Album of the Year. Right, the Grammys, that just had a ceremony that was practically a love letter to genres dominated by persons of color, are racist.
You can't make this shit up.
Yes, it is exasperating. Beyonce wins left and right, and some are still never happy.
Who exactly are "some"?
I want to hit on this because it's important. "Say's who" is the first thing I though, as well. The answer is invariably "some random nobodies on Twitter that nobody's ever heard of." This happens time and time again. The outrage is essentially nonexistent until the media decides to make it so, and then people run with it. Right now Leonardo DiCaprio, 48, slammed over ‘romance’ with Eden Polani, 19, Says a bunch of nobodies.
If you hate that everybody is upset about this or that, and/or you hate that everybody needs their own opinions validated, maybe stop playing ball. It's a self-perpetuating problem only so long as people fail to recognize that they're the ones perpetuating it. Seems like I've been dumping on Kev all morning, and that was certainly not my intention, but bringing these things up only continues the cycle. If nobody talks about it then these random nobodies stop mattering.
If I were trying to teach critical thinking to kids, one of the very first lessons, and it'd be a big one, is to ask "says who" about every single thing they hear. If everybody would do this we'd all be better off.
And I'll point out that this is the very reason talk radio exists, and the reason I hate it so much.
Well, most of that is true, but the "says who" has to be qualified. The idiots on January 6th were essentially saying "says who". If you're going to ask that question, it's got to be measured, and it's got to be part of the dialogue, and it's got to be a complete back and forth. I know for me, I bring it up here, because there ARE people here that by their own admission are "those people" in concept if not reality. There are lengthy threads here about the presence (or not) of "systemic racism", and you remember, Bart, I got called a "racist" (though not to my face) by a coward that couldn't fathom that I might disagree with that concept on intellectual grounds.
I know for me, I'm still getting the feeds from the "paid Democratic operatives" (that's sort of a joke, intended so you know who I'm talking about not to make a statement) and I just don't bother. I'm not giving them the satisfaction of telling them they are wrong. Twitter is not a debate, it's not a discussion, it's a jousting match and/or a business. It's not important that they (and it's not just on the left) be right, it's that they be provocative. That's not conducive to unification or bipartisanship.
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Beyonce set the record last night for most Grammys wins ever last night, but according to some, the Grammys are racist because she has still never won Album of the Year. Right, the Grammys, that just had a ceremony that was practically a love letter to genres dominated by persons of color, are racist.
You can't make this shit up.
Yes, it is exasperating. Beyonce wins left and right, and some are still never happy.
Who exactly are "some"?
I want to hit on this because it's important. "Say's who" is the first thing I though, as well. The answer is invariably "some random nobodies on Twitter that nobody's ever heard of." This happens time and time again. The outrage is essentially nonexistent until the media decides to make it so, and then people run with it. Right now Leonardo DiCaprio, 48, slammed over ‘romance’ with Eden Polani, 19, Says a bunch of nobodies.
If you hate that everybody is upset about this or that, and/or you hate that everybody needs their own opinions validated, maybe stop playing ball. It's a self-perpetuating problem only so long as people fail to recognize that they're the ones perpetuating it. Seems like I've been dumping on Kev all morning, and that was certainly not my intention, but bringing these things up only continues the cycle. If nobody talks about it then these random nobodies stop mattering.
If I were trying to teach critical thinking to kids, one of the very first lessons, and it'd be a big one, is to ask "says who" about every single thing they hear. If everybody would do this we'd all be better off.
And I'll point out that this is the very reason talk radio exists, and the reason I hate it so much.
Well, most of that is true, but the "says who" has to be qualified. The idiots on January 6th were essentially saying "says who". If you're going to ask that question, it's got to be measured, and it's got to be part of the dialogue, and it's got to be a complete back and forth. I know for me, I bring it up here, because there ARE people here that by their own admission are "those people" in concept if not reality. There are lengthy threads here about the presence (or not) of "systemic racism", and you remember, Bart, I got called a "racist" (though not to my face) by a coward that couldn't fathom that I might disagree with that concept on intellectual grounds.
I know for me, I'm still getting the feeds from the "paid Democratic operatives" (that's sort of a joke, intended so you know who I'm talking about not to make a statement) and I just don't bother. I'm not giving them the satisfaction of telling them they are wrong. Twitter is not a debate, it's not a discussion, it's a jousting match and/or a business. It's not important that they (and it's not just on the left) be right, it's that they be provocative. That's not conducive to unification or bipartisanship.
Well, most of that is true, but the "says who" has to be qualified.
I'd suggest that it needs to be qualified in its answer. There are plenty of people whose opinions I'd want to hear. Perhaps because I agree with them. Perhaps because they'd offer up a perspective that I hadn't considered. Perhaps because I respect them and I'm curious what they think. If the "outrage" comes from Tom Brokaw I'd like to hear about it. If it was 12 Twitter nobodies who were selected because they were perfect for supporting the narrative that "people are outraged" then nobody should even be giving them the time of day. I suppose it comes down to motivation. Is there an actual outrage, or are you just trying to create and perpetuate one.
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That's true; I was more referring to the notion that "says who" can be misinterpreted not as real inquisition, but rather a rejection of authority (that's why the reference to January 6th). "Hey Bart, there's this thing called COVID, please wear a mask." Some people said "says who?" and went off and researched the real science. A whole bunch of people said "says who" and coughed in your face, picked their nose, shook your hand and walked away. There's a difference there in the intent of "says who". I like your version, I don't like that latter version. We don't need more of that we need less.
If we're not willing to put our ideology aside - if the "says who" is rooted in partisanship and ideology - we're wasting our time.
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Seems like I've been dumping on Kev all morning, and that was certainly not my intention, but bringing these things up only continues the cycle. If nobody talks about it then these random nobodies stop mattering.
Yeah, what the hell? :P :P
Kidding, all good. I think you and Stadler are both making good points. It's a good read. :tup :tup
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Add Spike Lee to the list of those bitching about Beyonce not winning... :P :P
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/spike-lee-says-beyonc-losing-230028951.html
Because I always look to Spike Lee for expert advice on music. :rollin :rollin :rollin
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And not ONE Kanye meme?!?!
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Kanye is busy hanging out with Uncle Leo's girlfriend.
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Magic Johnson said it was "extremely disrespectful" that Beyonce wasn't honored for her achievements at the Grammys, because they didn't have a dedicated tribute recognizing her record breaking number of awards. Because winning awards isn't enough? He didn't bring up race at all, so that's something.
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Magic Johnson said it was "extremely disrespectful" that Beyonce wasn't honored for her achievements at the Grammys, because they didn't have a dedicated tribute recognizing her record breaking number of awards. Because winning awards isn't enough? He didn't bring up race at all, so that's something.
Yea, this is less about race and more about how intense Beyonce fans are.
I'm pretty sure if a celebrity publicly said they didn't like Beyonce's music, they'd be cancelled.
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Magic Johnson said it was "extremely disrespectful" that Beyonce wasn't honored for her achievements at the Grammys, because they didn't have a dedicated tribute recognizing her record breaking number of awards. Because winning awards isn't enough? He didn't bring up race at all, so that's something.
Yea, this is less about race and more about how intense Beyonce fans are.
I'm pretty sure if a celebrity publicly said they didn't like Beyonce's music, they'd be cancelled.
Like Mike?
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Magic Johnson said it was "extremely disrespectful" that Beyonce wasn't honored for her achievements at the Grammys, because they didn't have a dedicated tribute recognizing her record breaking number of awards. Because winning awards isn't enough? He didn't bring up race at all, so that's something.
Yea, this is less about race and more about how intense Beyonce fans are.
I'm pretty sure if a celebrity publicly said they didn't like Beyonce's music, they'd be cancelled.
Like Mike?
Mike? Do you mean Portnoy? If so no, I meant a real celebrity. :biggrin:
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Magic Johnson said it was "extremely disrespectful" that Beyonce wasn't honored for her achievements at the Grammys, because they didn't have a dedicated tribute recognizing her record breaking number of awards. Because winning awards isn't enough? He didn't bring up race at all, so that's something.
Yea, this is less about race and more about how intense Beyonce fans are.
I'm pretty sure if a celebrity publicly said they didn't like Beyonce's music, they'd be cancelled.
Like Mike?
Mike? Do you mean Portnoy? If so no, I meant a real celebrity. :biggrin:
Not touching that, but he posted a tweet saying something along the lines of "I'm not sure I ever heard even one Beyonce song" and he got roasted.
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Magic Johnson said it was "extremely disrespectful" that Beyonce wasn't honored for her achievements at the Grammys, because they didn't have a dedicated tribute recognizing her record breaking number of awards. Because winning awards isn't enough? He didn't bring up race at all, so that's something.
Yea, this is less about race and more about how intense Beyonce fans are.
I'm pretty sure if a celebrity publicly said they didn't like Beyonce's music, they'd be cancelled.
Like Mike?
Mike? Do you mean Portnoy? If so no, I meant a real celebrity. :biggrin:
Not touching that, but he posted a tweet saying something along the lines of "I'm not sure I ever heard even one Beyonce song" and he got roasted.
I mean, hasn’t everyone heard All I Want For Christmas Is You?
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She SHOULD have won, especially over Harry Styles, but I don't think the reason she didn't win has anything to do with racism. If it was simply racism, it probably would have gone to ABBA, Adele, or Brandi Carlisle.
But it went to the absolute worst album nominated, so I chalk it up to stupidity, not racism.
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Magic Johnson said it was "extremely disrespectful" that Beyonce wasn't honored for her achievements at the Grammys, because they didn't have a dedicated tribute recognizing her record breaking number of awards. Because winning awards isn't enough? He didn't bring up race at all, so that's something.
Yea, this is less about race and more about how intense Beyonce fans are.
I'm pretty sure if a celebrity publicly said they didn't like Beyonce's music, they'd be cancelled.
Like Mike?
Mike? Do you mean Portnoy? If so no, I meant a real celebrity. :biggrin:
Not touching that, but he posted a tweet saying something along the lines of "I'm not sure I ever heard even one Beyonce song" and he got roasted.
I mean, hasn’t everyone heard All I Want For Christmas Is You?
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I love TAC.
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I love TAC.
More than Beyonce?
Before you answer, I have a baseball bat.
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I know I've heard Beyoncé, though not on purpose. I couldn't name one of her songs to save my life.
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I know I've heard Beyoncé, though not on purpose. I couldn't name one of her songs to save my life.
"Put a ring on it" has sort of reached the zeitgeist, though.
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I know I've heard Beyoncé, though not on purpose. I couldn't name one of her songs to save my life.
"Put a ring on it" has sort of reached the zeitgeist, though.
But what if I didn't like it?
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At the risk of a low score, I think I know what I'm sending for TAC's female vocalist round in his roulette :)
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At the risk of a low score, I think I know what I'm sending for TAC's female vocalist round in his roulette :)
For all the nonsense around the sort of cultural part of this, I saw her, believe it or not with Destiny's Child, opening for Christina Aguilera, and the woman can SING.
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At the risk of a low score, I think I know what I'm sending for TAC's female vocalist round in his roulette :)
For all the nonsense around the sort of cultural part of this, I saw her, believe it or not with Destiny's Child, opening for Christina Aguilera, and the woman can SING.
I'm sure, while I personally don't listen to their music on my own, it's hard to deny her talent (Christina Aguilera as well).
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This is me personally, but Beyonce has lost melody in her singing. It may be the types of songs that are popular today but a lot of her vocals seem staccato. Less legato.
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I know I've heard Beyoncé, though not on purpose. I couldn't name one of her songs to save my life.
"Put a ring on it" has sort of reached the zeitgeist, though.
But what if I didn't like it?
But you DID like it.
And you DID put a ring on it.
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I know I've heard Beyoncé, though not on purpose. I couldn't name one of her songs to save my life.
"Put a ring on it" has sort of reached the zeitgeist, though.
But what if I didn't like it?
But you DID like it.
And you DID put a ring on it.
YOU WEREN'T THERE
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I'M SORRY
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It's okay, I will always love you.
And my heart will go on.
...those are both Beyonce, right?
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Close enough.
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How dare you compare that masterpiece by James Horner to anything in Beyoncé's catalog!!
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This is me personally, but Beyonce has lost melody in her singing. It may be the types of songs that are popular today but a lot of her vocals seem staccato. Less legato.
I think it's the musical style; I'm not passing judgment on anyone's motivation or intent, but I get the sense that she's "Aerosmith" right now. Not really interested in furthering the blues or whatever it was that was Joe Perry's initial impetus. Or maybe "Bon Jovi", after Jon famously said "he's the CEO of the Bon Jovi corporation". More focused on keeping the John Kalodner's of the world (i.e. the suits) happy and moving units than the underlying art. Except, like with Lemonade, when the art intersects with the commerce and gets the Twitterverse a-buzzin' ("Did he cheat? Did he not cheat? Where does Solange fit into the whole sordid mess?").
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I think she DID further her art with her most recent album. Not just doing the corporate thing.
Just my opinion, of course.
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I think she DID further her art with her most recent album. Not just doing the corporate thing.
Just my opinion, of course.
Maybe. I'm not aware. I just know that she's a big enough star to make my local evening newscasts, but it's almost NEVER about the "music", it's about the machinery around her (most recently, playing one hour in Dubai and getting something like $25M to do it).
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I think she DID further her art with her most recent album. Not just doing the corporate thing.
Just my opinion, of course.
Maybe. I'm not aware. I just know that she's a big enough star to make my local evening newscasts, but it's almost NEVER about the "music", it's about the machinery around her (most recently, playing one hour in Dubai and getting something like $25M to do it).
Playing a show is her music. They're not going to do a news report on the melodic interweaving of the new single.
Just like, I'm just going to guess here, news reports on Elvis were hardly about his music and more about his persona and the reaction to him.
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Well, Beyonce collaborates with other musicians/producers. For this one, she collaborated with producers/musicians from the electronic music genre, such as Skrillex.
And also, if you believe that actions speak louder than words, with the way she is presented to the people, she is idolized as an untouchable that deserves to be worshipped and praised by the people, and deserves all the accolades we the people can give her. Hence, why people are upset the Goddess didn't win the most sought after accolade in the Industry...The Grammy gift of gold.
But, I also see why Renaissance was considered to win the Best Dance/Electronic Recording and Best Dance/Electronic Album in the grammy's.
This album was meant to be played in the club, it has everything you hear that gets people dancing in the club. The beats, the grooves, and the seamless transitions from one song to the next.
Yet, I don't think it is album of the year. It's close, but that would be Music of The Spheres for me. :biggrin:
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I am sure I have heard a Beyonce song somewhere, but I cannot name a single one by title. Hell, I said the same about Rihanna the other day, and I would have said the same thing about Taylor Swift 27 months ago. I generally do not seek out modern day pop music.
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I am sure I have heard a Beyonce song somewhere, but I cannot name a single one by title. Hell, I said the same about Rihanna the other day, and I would have said the same thing about Taylor Swift 27 months ago. I generally do not seek out modern day pop music.
Same here. I couldn't name a Rihanna song but recognized some during the superbowl. I'd imagine the same with Beyonce. I just don't follow pop music to know the song titles and who does them, but some of those songs become so big that it's hard to live life without having come across it somehow.
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I was quite surprised that Rhianna chose to do her part of "All of The Light" by Kanye West for her Super Bowl Performance. I like that Kanye song, so that drew me into her performance a bit.
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The Ring On It song is the one song I know by Beyonce. Can't say I know any by Rhianna. My kid kept correcting me because I was saying Rhiannon, like the Fleetwood Mac song. Last time I watched a halftime show was The Who for SB44.
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You would know her song Umbrella.
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For lack of a better place to put this and because it does make me feel a tad exasperated:
I took the family out for dinner on Monday. I wrote in a fairly generous tip on the bill. The credit card transaction has now gone through completely (no longer pending) and it doesn't include the tip. So clearly our server got stiffed. Either she forgot to put it in, or the receipt I wrote it on got lost in the shuffle of us leaving. I know I didn't grab it because I had the customer copy only in my pocket when I got home. I kind of want to stop by, find her, and give her some cash. But honestly I'm not sure if I'd recognize her and don't have the receipt anymore which probably had her name on it. It's also a little out of the way and I'm just socially awkward enough that this would be a very uncomfortable thing for me to do. It's also a good chance it's her fault she forgot to add the tip on to the CC transaction after the fact. Things were getting busy as we left.
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Man, that would drive me insane if I knew about it**... I'd be over there having them look up my credit card transaction so that they could tell me the name of the server, so that I could make it right.
**I don't really balance receipts with my bank records, so this sort of thing could easily get by me.
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I can't see getting all worked up over this. It all evens out.
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Man, that would drive me insane if I knew about it**... I'd be over there having them look up my credit card transaction so that they could tell me the name of the server, so that I could make it right.
**I don't really balance receipts with my bank records, so this sort of thing could easily get by me.
Yeah, pretty much this. I'd probably never know about it.
Two things I'll throw out: One, how long has it been. I've seen charge and tip show up as different transactions before. Maybe the tip is a day behind or something. Second, my solution would be to call the manager and ask about it. He can probably check the records to find out how things went awry and also who your waitress was. From there you could send her a gift card if you so desired.
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I can't see getting all worked up over this. It all evens out.
What evens out?
I too wouldn't have even noticed but if I had, I'd also feel a nagging sense of doing something about it.
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I can't see getting all worked up over this. It all evens out.
What evens out?
Yeah, I think this is the textbook example of things not evening out. :lol
Technically I suppose somebody could accidentally write the wrong thing on the tip line and overtip by the precise amount that lordxizor tried to, but that seems unlikely.
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I can't see getting all worked up over this. It all evens out.
What evens out?
I too wouldn't have even noticed but if I had, I'd also feel a nagging sense of doing something about it.
Except in rare circumstances, I would ABSOLUTELY feel compelled to do something about it. It's not just about the money; it's about the interaction as well.
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Two things I'll throw out: One, how long has it been. I've seen charge and tip show up as different transactions before. Maybe the tip is a day behind or something. Second, my solution would be to call the manager and ask about it. He can probably check the records to find out how things went awry and also who your waitress was. From there you could send her a gift card if you so desired.
It's been three days at this point. I have never seen the bill and the tip run through as separate transactions, so I doubt that will still happen.
Honestly it's mostly that I don't want her to think I'm a cheapskate who came in on 1/2 price burger night, fed my family and rushed out without tipping. The service was average, nothing special, but she still deserves something. I could see on her face when we ordered water and 5 1/2 price burgers that she wasn't going to give us a ton of attention. :lol But I always try to tip generously in those situations anyway.
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Two things I'll throw out: One, how long has it been. I've seen charge and tip show up as different transactions before. Maybe the tip is a day behind or something. Second, my solution would be to call the manager and ask about it. He can probably check the records to find out how things went awry and also who your waitress was. From there you could send her a gift card if you so desired.
It's been three days at this point. I have never seen the bill and the tip run through as separate transactions, so I doubt that will still happen.
Honestly it's mostly that I don't want her to think I'm a cheapskate who came in on 1/2 price burger night, fed my family and rushed out without tipping. The service was average, nothing special, but she still deserves something. I could see on her face when we ordered water and 5 1/2 price burgers that she wasn't going to give us a ton of attention. :lol But I always try to tip generously in those situations anyway.
Yeah, I'll certainly increase my tip on something like that, and I'm also a pretty generous tipper. I wouldn't let the restaurant's sale effect her takehome pay.
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Two things I'll throw out: One, how long has it been. I've seen charge and tip show up as different transactions before. Maybe the tip is a day behind or something. Second, my solution would be to call the manager and ask about it. He can probably check the records to find out how things went awry and also who your waitress was. From there you could send her a gift card if you so desired.
It's been three days at this point. I have never seen the bill and the tip run through as separate transactions, so I doubt that will still happen.
Honestly it's mostly that I don't want her to think I'm a cheapskate who came in on 1/2 price burger night, fed my family and rushed out without tipping. The service was average, nothing special, but she still deserves something. I could see on her face when we ordered water and 5 1/2 price burgers that she wasn't going to give us a ton of attention. :lol But I always try to tip generously in those situations anyway.
Yeah, I'll certainly increase my tip on something like that, and I'm also a pretty generous tipper. I wouldn't let the restaurant's sale effect her takehome pay.
Me too; at the local, we win free drinks and apps sometimes for trivia; I tip 25% on what the bill WOULD have been.
It may not be valuable to others, but as a result, when I go in, there's a High Life waiting for me at the bar, sometimes we'll get to sample the new dishes (or new drinks, though we usually stick with beer) and my step son and I don't have to herd out like cattle when last call comes.
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Speaking of tipping - and this has probably been addressed in this thread before. But I was at a fast food chain the other day and bought myself a beverage while I bought someone else a burger. When did it become SOP to tip at a fast food counter for someone just taking an order?
I declined.
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Speaking of tipping - and this has probably been addressed in this thread before. But I was at a fast food chain the other day and bought myself a beverage while I bought someone else a burger. When did it become SOP to tip at a fast food counter for someone just taking an order?
I declined.
I have a hard time with that. We ordered out last night, actually, and I did pick up. I know they pack the food and all, but, I just can't.
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Speaking of tipping - and this has probably been addressed in this thread before. But I was at a fast food chain the other day and bought myself a beverage while I bought someone else a burger. When did it become SOP to tip at a fast food counter for someone just taking an order?
I declined.
Tip jars have been around for many years. If I'm paying with cash (uncommon), I'll sometimes drop my change in the jar. If it's a pay point system that prompts me for a tip (somewhat more recent), I always click "no tip." From what I've heard from my kids, both of whom work/have worked jobs where this is a thing, they get $25-50 per week in tips. Also, a friend from work and I went to lunch yesterday. It was his turn to pay, and I saw that he added a tip to the bill.
I have a hard time with that. We ordered out last night, actually, and I did pick up. I know they pack the food and all, but, I just can't.
Well...that's their job - and around here, they're getting paid $15-16 an hour to do it, so I'm with you in not doing it.
The thing I always find amusing is when you get a check. Let's say it's $50 for whatever you ordered, and there's sales tax on it, so it totals to $54.63 (9.25% sales tax is pretty common around here). Then they have "suggested tip" amounts. They don't even bother with 15%. It's usually 18%, 20% and 25%. But the kicker is that they calculate the tip on the AFTER-tax bill. I am NOT tipping on the sales tax. No way.
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Speaking of tipping - and this has probably been addressed in this thread before. But I was at a fast food chain the other day and bought myself a beverage while I bought someone else a burger. When did it become SOP to tip at a fast food counter for someone just taking an order?
I declined.
Sometime during the pandemic. It's also SOP to offer 'default' tip % of 18% at the low end, and 30% at the high end for any kind of service that traditionally receives tips (I saw that recently with the cabs in Vegas). I recall I reading a study that people are inclined to default to the middle option when presented with low-medium-high choices. Thus, 15% is no longer the 'standard' as providers search for more income/revenue.
But yeah, except in VERY RARE circumstances, I don't tip when I'm picking up any kind of food.
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30%?!!!
No. Friggin'. Way.
The only time I did something like that was a couple weeks before Christmas and I took my kids to a casual sit down place. The waitress was really friendly - especially with the kids (and probably attractive), and I had just gotten or was about to get a really nice bonus, so I tipped her like $50 on a $75 check
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I'm a generous tipper by almost any non-Hollywood, non-celebrity standard, and even I'm not giving 30% absent something spectacular, like a free round of shots or something like that, and it will be a server or bartender that I know and have dealt with before (and will deal with again).
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I'm a generous tipper by almost any non-Hollywood, non-celebrity standard, and even I'm not giving 30% absent something spectacular, like a free round of shots or something like that, and it will be a server or bartender that I know and have dealt with before (and will deal with again).
Nice to see I'm not alone in this—having grown up dirt-poor, I will always have a soft-spot in my heart for those working their asses off, and as far as I'm concerned, those in the service industry are working their asses off.
Long before I could afford to, I always made it a point to round that bill to a nice round number.
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I'm a generous tipper by almost any non-Hollywood, non-celebrity standard, and even I'm not giving 30% absent something spectacular, like a free round of shots or something like that, and it will be a server or bartender that I know and have dealt with before (and will deal with again).
Exactly. When I was in Chicago on business last summer, I went to a pub near the hotel. I ordered a rib dinner and two beers. The bartender gave me the check for $33.75 + $3.03 sales tax. I noticed that only one of the beers was on the check and pointed it out, completely expecting that he'd add it and give me a new check. Instead, he said something like, "eh...if I forgot to add it, it's on me," so I tipped him $10, which was just shy of 30% on the pre-tax check (and, in this case, the the "suggested gratuity" numbers (18/20/22%) were properly based on the pre-tax amount).
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I'm a generous tipper by almost any non-Hollywood, non-celebrity standard, and even I'm not giving 30% absent something spectacular, like a free round of shots or something like that, and it will be a server or bartender that I know and have dealt with before (and will deal with again).
Exactly. When I was in Chicago on business last summer, I went to a pub near the hotel. I ordered a rib dinner and two beers. The bartender gave me the check for $33.75 + $3.03 sales tax. I noticed that only one of the beers was on the check and pointed it out, completely expecting that he'd add it and give me a new check. Instead, he said something like, "eh...if I forgot to add it, it's on me," so I tipped him $10, which was just shy of 30% on the pre-tax check (and, in this case, the the "suggested gratuity" numbers (18/20/22%) were properly based on the pre-tax amount).
That's what I would have done, more or less.
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For lack of a better place to put this and because it does make me feel a tad exasperated:
I took the family out for dinner on Monday. I wrote in a fairly generous tip on the bill. The credit card transaction has now gone through completely (no longer pending) and it doesn't include the tip. So clearly our server got stiffed. Either she forgot to put it in, or the receipt I wrote it on got lost in the shuffle of us leaving. I know I didn't grab it because I had the customer copy only in my pocket when I got home. I kind of want to stop by, find her, and give her some cash. But honestly I'm not sure if I'd recognize her and don't have the receipt anymore which probably had her name on it. It's also a little out of the way and I'm just socially awkward enough that this would be a very uncomfortable thing for me to do. It's also a good chance it's her fault she forgot to add the tip on to the CC transaction after the fact. Things were getting busy as we left.
Maybe cause I'm Australian and don't get the whole tipping thing over there but this seems something I wouldn't worry about truthfully. Shit happens. I certainly wouldn't go out of my way to go in there especially to give her money. That's creepy as fuck.
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I am also a generous tipper for restaurant service because I have been a waitress myself. 20% for good service is my comfort zone. But I have gone above that for excellent service. I also like slipping some cash to staff that are not the server or bartender. After my sister's memorial service, I made sure to pass out some 20s to the folks who had set up and then were breaking down the tables, etc.
The one thing I refuse to do, however, is tip 15-25% on an expensive bottle of wine in a restaurant. Wine that is likely already marked up 50% or more. The server pops a cork the same way on a $20 bottle as they do on a $200 bottle. Unless there is a wax top, in which case, I'll add a bit more. So for fancy dinners out - rare for us - we take off the cost of the wine, calculate the tip on the remainder of the bill, then add in an extra $10 (or whatever their corkage fee is) to pop the cork.
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You tip some joker to open your bottle of wine?! :lol
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I'm pretty confident I've only been out to dinner once (in a non-work or large group setting) in which we ordered an entire bottle of wine. I don't know how expensive the bottle was, but I recall the check being over $300 for four of us, and I'm pretty sure we did the usual tip on the pre-tax amount.
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I've kind of gotten to the point where I just don't think much about the tip. I kind of like it that way. If I'm already paying $20 for food and a drink, and I'm already resigned to paying $4 on that tab, an extra buck or three doesn't make much differenceto me. I'll typically shoot for 20% and round up. If I go over that's not a problem, as I'd rather over-tip than under-tip. Just something I've fallen into as I've gotten older and reevaluated how I spend money when eating out. To me principles come into play, and I'm not going to get ripped off, but I'm not going to cheap out on general principle, either.
Covid also changed my calculus a bit. Back when things were still spotty and restaurants were hurting I gave a guy a $20 for my $14 (after tax) breakfast. Didn't make me feel like I paid too much. Made him happy. Made me happy. Total cost was about $2. That's a win AFAIC.
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I can't see getting all worked up over this. It all evens out.
What evens out?
Well, how about all the times I asked for BBQ sauce to be brought with my son's burger or mustard for mine, and it was never brought out, yet I still left a tip.
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I've kind of gotten to the point where I just don't think much about the tip. I kind of like it that way. If I'm already paying $20 for food and a drink, and I'm already resigned to paying $4 on that tab, an extra buck or three doesn't make much difference to me. I'll typically shoot for 20% and round up. If I go over that's not a problem, as I'd rather over-tip than under-tip. Just something I've fallen into as I've gotten older and reevaluated how I spend money when eating out. To me principles come into play, and I'm not going to get ripped off, but I'm not going to cheap out on general principle, either.
Covid also changed my calculus a bit. Back when things were still spotty and restaurants were hurting I gave a guy a $20 for my $14 (after tax) breakfast. Didn't make me feel like I paid too much. Made him happy. Made me happy. Total cost was about $2. That's a win AFAIC.
This is a good, easy system if you ask me. Plus, it would take some pretty spectacular service to make me feel like I'd need to give more.
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I can't see getting all worked up over this. It all evens out.
What evens out?
Well, how about all the times I asked for BBQ sauce to be brought with my son's burger or mustard for mine, and it was never brought out, yet I still left a tip.
Huh? How does that even out for the server not getting the tip? Unless they were the person who messed up and you didn’t really want to tip them anyway. But if one server messes up I don’t get to say that another server not getting a tip evens anything out.
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I can't see getting all worked up over this. It all evens out.
What evens out?
Well, how about all the times I asked for BBQ sauce to be brought with my son's burger or mustard for mine, and it was never brought out, yet I still left a tip.
Huh? How does that even out for the server not getting the tip? Unless they were the person who messed up and you didn’t really want to tip them anyway. But if one server messes up I don’t get to say that another server not getting a tip evens anything out.
It does for me. And that server will be overtipped at some point as well.
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I can't see getting all worked up over this. It all evens out.
What evens out?
Well, how about all the times I asked for BBQ sauce to be brought with my son's burger or mustard for mine, and it was never brought out, yet I still left a tip.
Huh? How does that even out for the server not getting the tip? Unless they were the person who messed up and you didn’t really want to tip them anyway. But if one server messes up I don’t get to say that another server not getting a tip evens anything out.
It does for me. And that server will be overtipped at some point as well.
Tim: Bringing the exasperation to everyone in the "Things I find a tad exasperating" thread.
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I just don't feel the need to come in here and say what a great tipper I am. I was just saying that in the example given, I would simply file under shit happens and I'd move the fuck along.
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I just don't feel the need to come in here and say what a great tipper I am. I was just saying that in the example given, I would simply file under shit happens and I'd move the fuck along.
Agree. As I said before in my post, not sure why it would be something to get hung up on.
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That's punishing one person for another person's failing. You tip less for that person who didn't bring the condiments asked.
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That's punishing one person for another person's failing. You tip less for that person who didn't bring the condiments asked.
No it isn't. I'm just saying in the grand scheme of things, to me, it all evens out.
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They are saying a good waitress got screwed with no tip and it bothers them.
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I can't see getting all worked up over this. It all evens out.
What evens out?
Well, how about all the times I asked for BBQ sauce to be brought with my son's burger or mustard for mine, and it was never brought out, yet I still left a tip.
"What is the server was too fucking busy?"
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They are saying a good waitress got screwed with no tip and it bothers them.
That's fair but that's life. She'll get extra generous tips soon enough to make up for it.
I've said it before and yes I'm from the other side of the world but I find the whole tipping thing fascinating.
I can't see getting all worked up over this. It all evens out.
What evens out?
Well, how about all the times I asked for BBQ sauce to be brought with my son's burger or mustard for mine, and it was never brought out, yet I still left a tip.
"What is the server was too fucking busy?"
Then they should count themselves lucky they even got a tip.
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You tip some joker to open your bottle of wine?! :lol
In the restaurants you go to do they allow you to pop open the cork on a bottle of wine that you ordered off the menu?
I guess I'm not understanding your point. :huh:
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My wife was a waitress for 15 plus years. No, it never equals out. People are cheap.
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You tip some joker to open your bottle of wine?! :lol
In the restaurants you go to do they allow you to pop open the cork on a bottle of wine that you ordered off the menu?
I guess I'm not understanding your point. :huh:
I don't drink wine and have never ordered a bottle of wine or anything actually from a restaurant. So I actually have no idea.
Thinking about it though, over here I think we have something called a corkage fee which to me is fucking insane. Similar thing I guess.
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My wife was a waitress for 15 plus years. No, it never equals out. People are cheap.
The waitress is none the wiser though that she missed out on lord's tip? Would that be correct?
I just don't think going back and giving her money is worth it though, it's just one of those bad luck situations by the sounds of it.
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I can't see getting all worked up over this. It all evens out.
What evens out?
Well, how about all the times I asked for BBQ sauce to be brought with my son's burger or mustard for mine, and it was never brought out, yet I still left a tip.
"What is the server was too fucking busy?"
Not my problem really. Get the order straight. That's their job.
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My wife was a waitress for 15 plus years. No, it never equals out. People are cheap.
Sounds like the boss is cheap. Stop blaming the paying public.
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You tip some joker to open your bottle of wine?! :lol
In the restaurants you go to do they allow you to pop open the cork on a bottle of wine that you ordered off the menu?
I guess I'm not understanding your point. :huh:
I don't drink wine and have never ordered a bottle of wine or anything actually from a restaurant. So I actually have no idea.
Thinking about it though, over here I think we have something called a corkage fee which to me is fucking insane. Similar thing I guess.
We have both. Some restaurants allow the patron to bring in a bottle of their own wine and charge a "corkage" fee to open and pour it at your table. This can range from $10 to $25 per bottle (maybe even higher?)
But I was talking about ordering a bottle of wine (already marked WAY up) off the menu. If I add a $200 bottle of wine onto the check then that pushes up the percentage I'm supposed to leave for a tip to the server. Yet the server does no more work to open a $20 bottle of wine. So I refuse to tip on the cost of the wine. I tip on the corkage.
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My wife was a waitress for 15 plus years. No, it never equals out. People are cheap.
Sounds like the boss is cheap. Stop blaming the paying public.
Do you know the rates for waitresses Tim?
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You tip some joker to open your bottle of wine?! :lol
In the restaurants you go to do they allow you to pop open the cork on a bottle of wine that you ordered off the menu?
I guess I'm not understanding your point. :huh:
I don't drink wine and have never ordered a bottle of wine or anything actually from a restaurant. So I actually have no idea.
Thinking about it though, over here I think we have something called a corkage fee which to me is fucking insane. Similar thing I guess.
We have both. Some restaurants allow the patron to bring in a bottle of their own wine and charge a "corkage" fee to open and pour it at your table. This can range from $10 to $25 per bottle (maybe even higher?)
But I was talking about ordering a bottle of wine (already marked WAY up) off the menu. If I add a $200 bottle of wine onto the check then that pushes up the percentage I'm supposed to leave for a tip to the server. Yet the server does no more work to open a $20 bottle of wine. So I refuse to tip on the cost of the wine. I tip on the corkage.
That seems fair to me.
The corkage fee thing though again I find mindblowing.
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My wife was a waitress for 15 plus years. No, it never equals out. People are cheap.
Sounds like the boss is cheap. Stop blaming the paying public.
Do you know the rates for waitresses Tim?
Yeah, it's too fucking low.
Tipping should be a reward for good service, not to supplement a waitstaff's income.
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You're missing the point. The waitress did a good job.
Found out after the waitress did not get tipped.
Person felt bad for that.
You: It all Ballenger out.
Me: No it doesn't. There are more people out there like you with tipping than myself.
You: tipping should be awarded for good service.
Me: Why are you arguing then?
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There are more people out there like you with tipping
You don't know this. You don't know my tipping habits. They may or may not jive with my attitude on tipping.
As a consumer, I totally resent that I HAVE TO tip. I totally resent that I'm supposed to feel bad for a person that takes a job that relies on tips. Why doesn't the waitress take a job in the kitchen with a fixed wage? because they can make more money from tips..therefore, it all evens out.
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You tip some joker to open your bottle of wine?! :lol
In the restaurants you go to do they allow you to pop open the cork on a bottle of wine that you ordered off the menu?
I guess I'm not understanding your point. :huh:
I don't drink wine and have never ordered a bottle of wine or anything actually from a restaurant. So I actually have no idea.
Thinking about it though, over here I think we have something called a corkage fee which to me is fucking insane. Similar thing I guess.
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There are more people out there like you with tipping
You don't know this. You don't know my tipping habits. They may or may not jive with my attitude on tipping.
As a consumer, I totally resent that I HAVE TO tip. I totally resent that I'm supposed to feel bad for a person that takes a job that relies on tips. Why doesn't the waitress take a job in the kitchen with a fixed wage? because they can make more money from tips..therefore, it all evens out.
Yes I do. You don't think my wife talked to me daily about her tips and what she deposited?
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There are more people out there like you with tipping
You don't know this. You don't know my tipping habits. They may or may not jive with my attitude on tipping.
As a consumer, I totally resent that I HAVE TO tip. I totally resent that I'm supposed to feel bad for a person that takes a job that relies on tips. Why doesn't the waitress take a job in the kitchen with a fixed wage? because they can make more money from tips..therefore, it all evens out.
Yes I do. You don't think my wife talked to me daily about her tips and what she deposited?
What I'm saying is that you have no idea what kind of tipper I am. You simply don't.
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I think I can guess from your posts. Lol
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You tip some joker to open your bottle of wine?! :lol
In the restaurants you go to do they allow you to pop open the cork on a bottle of wine that you ordered off the menu?
I guess I'm not understanding your point. :huh:
I don't drink wine and have never ordered a bottle of wine or anything actually from a restaurant. So I actually have no idea.
Thinking about it though, over here I think we have something called a corkage fee which to me is fucking insane. Similar thing I guess.
The corkage fee is to ensure the restaurant sees some income from people bringing their own bottles, otherwise it'd destroy one of their major revenue sources. The profit margin of a restaurant is razor fucking thin, and they need to recoup and control those thin lines wherever they can. There's also a cakeage fee, for cutting a cake that is brought into the restaurant, usually charged per person at the table.
As to tipping on booze, and I'm speaking for California since other states have their own tax codes, in CA, servers are taxed 8% of their sales (as of a few years ago, I haven't been in a la carte for a while now), so when someone orders a hundred dollar bottle of wine, an easy thing to do in higher end establishments, the server is automatically taxed on $8 as income. If you don't tip them at least 12 bucks on that bottle (counting for tipout to bar, busboy, host, etc) they are definitely losing money by selling you that wine.
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And as a former waitress, I understand that. That is why I said, I tip the corkage (which is typically more than 8%). Believe me, I wish I could afford $100 bottles of wine with dinner at a restaurant but that isn't happening except on the rarest of occasion.
Side note - we are headed to Hawaii in a couple of months and the swanky hotel we are staying at won't even let you bring in your own bottle of water to the pool area. You have to BUY water at the bar. And cocktails start at $16 each. So I bought a couple of these flasks:
(https://i.imgur.com/L494Eg6.jpg)
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I think I can guess from your posts. Lol
That would be a mistake on your part.
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I would say you come off as confrontational and stubborn leading to most to believe that.
Why question why someone would feel guilty for not leaving a tip? Have you lost being sympathetic?
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As to tipping on booze, and I'm speaking for California since other states have their own tax codes, in CA, servers are taxed 8% of their sales (as of a few years ago, I haven't been in a la carte for a while now), so when someone orders a hundred dollar bottle of wine, an easy thing to do in higher end establishments, the server is automatically taxed on $8 as income. If you don't tip them at least 12 bucks on that bottle (counting for tipout to bar, busboy, host, etc) they are definitely losing money by selling you that wine.
But why would I give a fuck about any of that? I pay for the cost of my meal. I do a standard tip, shave a little off for service not up to snuff, and add a little more if it's excellent service.
I'm not about to do calculus to figure out who makes how much.
Although what you say is interesting.
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I would say you come off as confrontational and stubborn
I can't even blame it on the booze! :lol
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:lol
But you can on age.
BAZINGA!! :lol
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:lol
But you can on age.
BAZINGA!! :lol
I can't actually. I should tell you about my college tipping story sometime.
As to tipping on booze, and I'm speaking for California since other states have their own tax codes, in CA, servers are taxed 8% of their sales (as of a few years ago, I haven't been in a la carte for a while now), so when someone orders a hundred dollar bottle of wine, an easy thing to do in higher end establishments, the server is automatically taxed on $8 as income. If you don't tip them at least 12 bucks on that bottle (counting for tipout to bar, busboy, host, etc) they are definitely losing money by selling you that wine.
RJ, can you clarify something for me? When you say server, do you mean the person waiting on my table? Or the restaurant in general (i.e. the owner)?
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:lol
But you can on age.
BAZINGA!! :lol
I can't actually. I should tell you about my college tipping story sometime.
As to tipping on booze, and I'm speaking for California since other states have their own tax codes, in CA, servers are taxed 8% of their sales (as of a few years ago, I haven't been in a la carte for a while now), so when someone orders a hundred dollar bottle of wine, an easy thing to do in higher end establishments, the server is automatically taxed on $8 as income. If you don't tip them at least 12 bucks on that bottle (counting for tipout to bar, busboy, host, etc) they are definitely losing money by selling you that wine.
RJ, can you clarify something for me? When you say server, do you mean the person waiting on my table? Or the restaurant in general (i.e. the owner)?
The person serving you, your server. Actually if there's non-compliance with proper tip reporting procedures, the restaurant canbe liable for it, that's why the owner will make sure that tips are reported properly and completely. These days it's pretty easy to track sales and tips since most of the business is done through card transactions, but there are exceptions like cash bars and the like. If you tip 13%,although you'll be a cheap motherfucker and should just stay the fuck home (And I mean that with all sincerity from the whole of the industry) you at least won't be causing your server to lose money.
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Waitresses are glad I live here. I wouldn't fucking tip anyone. I too would despise having to tip someone for a meal.
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The person serving you, your server. Actually if there's non-compliance with proper tip reporting procedures, the restaurant canbe liable for it, that's why the owner will make sure that tips are reported properly and completely. These days it's pretty easy to track sales and tips since most of the business is done through card transactions, but there are exceptions like cash bars and the like. If you tip 13%,although you'll be a cheap motherfucker and should just stay the fuck home (And I mean that with all sincerity from the whole of the industry) you at least won't be causing your server to lose money.
I'm confused..if you buy a bottle of wine at a restaurant, the server PAYS a tax?? That doesn't even make sense.
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You tip some joker to open your bottle of wine?! :lol
In the restaurants you go to do they allow you to pop open the cork on a bottle of wine that you ordered off the menu?
I guess I'm not understanding your point. :huh:
I don't drink wine and have never ordered a bottle of wine or anything actually from a restaurant. So I actually have no idea.
Thinking about it though, over here I think we have something called a corkage fee which to me is fucking insane. Similar thing I guess.
The corkage fee is to ensure the restaurant sees some income from people bringing their own bottles, otherwise it'd destroy one of their major revenue sources. The profit margin of a restaurant is razor fucking thin, and they need to recoup and control those thin lines wherever they can. There's also a cakeage fee, for cutting a cake that is brought into the restaurant, usually charged per person at the table.
As to tipping on booze, and I'm speaking for California since other states have their own tax codes, in CA, servers are taxed 8% of their sales (as of a few years ago, I haven't been in a la carte for a while now), so when someone orders a hundred dollar bottle of wine, an easy thing to do in higher end establishments, the server is automatically taxed on $8 as income. If you don't tip them at least 12 bucks on that bottle (counting for tipout to bar, busboy, host, etc) they are definitely losing money by selling you that wine.
I dunno why restaurants allow BYO wine to be honest.
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You tip some joker to open your bottle of wine?! :lol
In the restaurants you go to do they allow you to pop open the cork on a bottle of wine that you ordered off the menu?
I guess I'm not understanding your point. :huh:
I don't drink wine and have never ordered a bottle of wine or anything actually from a restaurant. So I actually have no idea.
Thinking about it though, over here I think we have something called a corkage fee which to me is fucking insane. Similar thing I guess.
The corkage fee is to ensure the restaurant sees some income from people bringing their own bottles, otherwise it'd destroy one of their major revenue sources. The profit margin of a restaurant is razor fucking thin, and they need to recoup and control those thin lines wherever they can. There's also a cakeage fee, for cutting a cake that is brought into the restaurant, usually charged per person at the table.
As to tipping on booze, and I'm speaking for California since other states have their own tax codes, in CA, servers are taxed 8% of their sales (as of a few years ago, I haven't been in a la carte for a while now), so when someone orders a hundred dollar bottle of wine, an easy thing to do in higher end establishments, the server is automatically taxed on $8 as income. If you don't tip them at least 12 bucks on that bottle (counting for tipout to bar, busboy, host, etc) they are definitely losing money by selling you that wine.
Are people in your land allowed to bring bottles into place that already sell alcohol? In my neck of the woods it's one or the other. Either the restaurant has a liquor license and sells their own firewater, or they don't and it's BYOB. Occasionally they might be neither, but they are never both. In fact I'm pretty sure it's a class B misdemeanor to drink your own in a place that sells it. Thus, down here it's an added revenue stream, rather than a replacement. The only justification as I see it, to the extent that there is one, is that you're using the restaurant's wine glasses (and plates and forks for cake), which they'll have to wash. A little extra bussing and whatnot.
Your point about the taxes is a good one, though. However, down here taxation on waitstaff is kind of an afterthought. I think it all works out based on averages, and invariably your taxes magically turn out to be your base pay. Every other week you get a paycheck for zero dollars and your tips are your own. I suppose if you're working high end that might be different, but typically that's how it works out.
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Honestly Barto, I have no idea. So I probably shouldn't be in this conversation. :lol
I hate wine and don't drink and do go to fancy restaurants so not sure what the go is there.
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Honestly Barto, I have no idea. So I probably shouldn't be in this conversation. :lol
I hate wine and don't drink and do go to fancy restaurants so not sure what the go is there.
That was directed to Lonestar. Honestly, in your world I just assumed they smash the bottle across your face and light your alcohol soaked clothes on fire if you ask them to uncork one for you. Maybe there's a traditional Aussie folk song sung by waiters while all they dance around your charred, smoldering corpse.
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I should have read your whole post instead of just the first line. :lol
Truthfully though, we take out corks with our teeth or a knife. None of this pussy corkscrew bullshit.
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Dang, didn't mean to start the tip debate again. Sorry everyone! :lol
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Honestly Barto, I have no idea. So I probably shouldn't be in this conversation. :lol
I hate wine and don't drink and do go to fancy restaurants so not sure what the go is there.
That was directed to Lonestar. Honestly, in your world I just assumed they smash the bottle across your face and light your alcohol soaked clothes on fire if you ask them to uncork one for you. Maybe there's a traditional Aussie folk song sung by waiters while all they dance around your charred, smoldering corpse.
Maybe not everyone in Oz, but that's exactly what I'd imagine Kade would do.
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I don't even know how to respond to some of the things posted in this thread lol
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That's punishing one person for another person's failing. You tip less for that person who didn't bring the condiments asked.
No it isn't. I'm just saying in the grand scheme of things, to me, it all evens out.
I'm with you, Tim. Maybe it doesn't work out for THAT SERVER in THAT MOMENT, but in the grand cosmos, I'd like to imagine it does. I tip for the lack of service (for me, it's water. I order waters a lot, and get them like half the time) here, and over there, I'm probably over tipping. Works out for me. The server who didn't bring the water to me, maybe brings extra hot sauce for the cuter guys that come in later. Works out for him/her. And on and on. The human brain doesn't do a great job of thinking that way, though. We're very transactional as a species.
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I prefer a clear conscience. In this case it would be easy to go back in - unless the pace was hours away - and ask the manager who served in section X on Tuesday night. I would make it right IF the server warranted it.
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And as a former waitress, I understand that. That is why I said, I tip the corkage (which is typically more than 8%). Believe me, I wish I could afford $100 bottles of wine with dinner at a restaurant but that isn't happening except on the rarest of occasion.
Side note - we are headed to Hawaii in a couple of months and the swanky hotel we are staying at won't even let you bring in your own bottle of water to the pool area. You have to BUY water at the bar. And cocktails start at $16 each. So I bought a couple of these flasks:
(https://i.imgur.com/L494Eg6.jpg)
That's right up my alley. I love that!! :) :) :)
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Stads, I don't tip to the Cosmos. I get the balance but the original post is about feeling bad for forgetting to tip.
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Stads, I don't tip to the Cosmos. I get the balance but the original post is about feeling bad for forgetting to tip.
I hear you; and I would feel bad myself. I was more talking about the overall concept of tipping in general. I'm a "tend my garden" kind of guy; I've already said I would have gone back if it was logistically feasible.
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Waitresses are glad I live here. I wouldn't fucking tip anyone. I too would despise having to tip someone for a meal.
Be sure to let a server know that beforehand so they can adjust your level of service accordingly.
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I hear that but that's like saying a person paid hourly doesn't get the correct hours on their check and the manager tells them, "Don't worry. It will all balances out in the long run."
That employee would be pissed because it's not true unless corrected.
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Waitresses are glad I live here. I wouldn't fucking tip anyone. I too would despise having to tip someone for a meal.
Be sure to let a server know that beforehand so they can adjust your level of service accordingly.
Are we confusing job and service? Isn’t it their job to take your order and be friendly?
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I wonder how long before they add a tip option for the checkers at the grocery stores? And the flight attendants serving you a soda?
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Waitresses are glad I live here. I wouldn't fucking tip anyone. I too would despise having to tip someone for a meal.
Be sure to let a server know that beforehand so they can adjust your level of service accordingly.
Are we confusing job and service? Isn’t it their job to take your order and be friendly?
Technically, the job is to take your order and bring your order. "Being friendly" would fall into lonestar's mention of "level of service".
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Side note - we are headed to Hawaii in a couple of months and the swanky hotel we are staying at won't even let you bring in your own bottle of water to the pool area. You have to BUY water at the bar. And cocktails start at $16 each. So I bought a couple of these flasks:
What the actual fuck?!
Then again, I don't entirely understand the idea of going to an island or beach resort and sitting around a pool that's however many yards from the ocean. :)
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Side note - we are headed to Hawaii in a couple of months and the swanky hotel we are staying at won't even let you bring in your own bottle of water to the pool area. You have to BUY water at the bar. And cocktails start at $16 each. So I bought a couple of these flasks:
What the actual fuck?!
Then again, I don't entirely understand the idea of going to an island or beach resort and sitting around a pool that's however many yards from the ocean. :)
We will be there for 10 days. Lots of time to explore the beaches.
But maybe this photo will help you understand why it might hold some appeal. That infinity portion of the pool loops around to all sorts of spectacular views, including of Diamond Head.
(https://i.imgur.com/cVdzhHy.jpg)
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Oh wow! That is amazing!!
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Side note - we are headed to Hawaii in a couple of months and the swanky hotel we are staying at won't even let you bring in your own bottle of water to the pool area. You have to BUY water at the bar. And cocktails start at $16 each. So I bought a couple of these flasks:
What the actual fuck?!
Then again, I don't entirely understand the idea of going to an island or beach resort and sitting around a pool that's however many yards from the ocean. :)
We will be there for 10 days. Lots of time to explore the beaches.
But maybe this photo will help you understand why it might hold some appeal. That infinity portion of the pool loops around to all sorts of spectacular views, including of Diamond Head.
(https://i.imgur.com/cVdzhHy.jpg)
I've been to Hawaii twice (both times to Maui) and one time we went to Pearl Harbor so I could take my dad back there (he was stationed at Scofield Barracks for a spell in the Army; that was also my parent's honey moon spot). That place is paradise, IMO.
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Man I kinda want to do a huge post here about tips but then again I'm from a different country whatsoever and—while I always tip over the standard 10% here—I'm mostly on Tim's side so I don't want to add to the exasperation.
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Waitresses are glad I live here. I wouldn't fucking tip anyone. I too would despise having to tip someone for a meal.
Be sure to let a server know that beforehand so they can adjust your level of service accordingly.
Are we confusing job and service? Isn’t it their job to take your order and be friendly?
Technically, the job is to take your order and bring your order. "Being friendly" would fall into lonestar's mention of "level of service".
Really?
What boss trains their staff, tips or not, to not be friendly to the customer? That's crazy. Being nice to the customers is a baseline behavior for an employee, especially in any service industry.
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Waitresses are glad I live here. I wouldn't fucking tip anyone. I too would despise having to tip someone for a meal.
Be sure to let a server know that beforehand so they can adjust your level of service accordingly.
Are we confusing job and service? Isn’t it their job to take your order and be friendly?
I'm just saying, if you're gonna be an asshole, be upfront about it instead of fucking them off right before leaving. And to be honest...99% of the servers I know will probably still be professional (and I know more industry people than the rest of this board combined), and do their job and be sure you have a positive experience, but I guarantee there isn't a cheap fucker who has the courage to let them know up front they're gonna be cheap.
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Waitresses are glad I live here. I wouldn't fucking tip anyone. I too would despise having to tip someone for a meal.
Be sure to let a server know that beforehand so they can adjust your level of service accordingly.
Are we confusing job and service? Isn’t it their job to take your order and be friendly?
Technically, the job is to take your order and bring your order. "Being friendly" would fall into lonestar's mention of "level of service".
Really?
What boss trains their staff, tips or not, to not be friendly to the customer? That's crazy. Being nice to the customers is a baseline behavior for an employee, especially in any service industry.
My wife trained new waitresses and they definitely teach behaviors to get a better tip. Some people wear their emotions on their sleve and have trouble with different personalities.
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Waitresses are glad I live here. I wouldn't fucking tip anyone. I too would despise having to tip someone for a meal.
Be sure to let a server know that beforehand so they can adjust your level of service accordingly.
Are we confusing job and service? Isn’t it their job to take your order and be friendly?
Technically, the job is to take your order and bring your order. "Being friendly" would fall into lonestar's mention of "level of service".
Really?
What boss trains their staff, tips or not, to not be friendly to the customer? That's crazy. Being nice to the customers is a baseline behavior for an employee, especially in any service industry.
My wife trained new waitresses and they definitely teach behaviors to get a better tip. Some people wear their emotions on their sleve and have trouble with different personalities.
I'm sure there's pointers on trying to get a better tip, but being friendly and courteous should be the bare minimum.
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That's a good question though. Why should it be a minimum? If being super kind and helpful gets you X and being flat and boring gets you X, what's the impetus?
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That's a good question though. Why should it be a minimum? If being super kind and helpful gets you X and being flat and boring gets you X, what's the impetus?
Because being flat (your word-whatever it infers) and boring may lose the restaurant a customer.
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I understand where Tim is going but human nature has pointed out that people act differently when there is stress,(personal or professional) or don't react well to confrontation. (Can be an aggressive personality)
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I understand where Tim is going but human nature has pointed out that people act differently when there is stress,(personal or professional) or don't react well to confrontation. (Can be an aggressive personality)
Servers are human. I get that.
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More are training better because of the lack of those applying to lower paid jobs. You can get $15 pouring coffee or handing out hamburgers these days.
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That's a good question though. Why should it be a minimum? If being super kind and helpful gets you X and being flat and boring gets you X, what's the impetus?
Because being flat (your word-whatever it infers) and boring may lose the restaurant a customer.
That's fair. I just can't think of a restaurant I've been to where I'd stop going because of a server not being very nice/friendly, especially if it was at least neutral and the food was good. Like if I went to a pizza place (or whatever) and thought the pizza was great but the server didn't have a smile/friendly attitude, I wouldn't stop going there.
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That's a good question though. Why should it be a minimum? If being super kind and helpful gets you X and being flat and boring gets you X, what's the impetus?
Because being flat (your word-whatever it infers) and boring may lose the restaurant a customer.
That's fair. I just can't think of a restaurant I've been to where I'd stop going because of a server not being very nice/friendly, especially if it was at least neutral and the food was good. Like if I went to a pizza place (or whatever) and thought the pizza was great but the server didn't have a smile/friendly attitude, I wouldn't stop going there.
I hear you, but as a business owner, you just can't have your employees not striving for good service, no matter what their position is. A one off doesn't necessarily mean a deathknell.
We have a saying that it takes years to gain a customer and a moment to lose them.
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All fair. As long as the servers aren't really "actors". Those people drive me nuts :rollin
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More are training better because of the lack of those applying to lower paid jobs. You can get $15 pouring coffee or handing out hamburgers these days.
15 is minimum wage here. And I'd avoid calling servers a 'low paying job'....though their hourly wage is usually minimum, they do alright. Imagine, if they turn two tables, and score a ten buck tip on each, in an hour, after tip out that's 15 on top of their 15 minimum wage. The ones slinging hash at a greasy spoon, cranking ten tables an hour at a $5 tip per table...that's 50/hr right there. And don't get me started on how dive bar bartenders do...
But you know what? they earn every fucking penny for putting up with the type of assholes that walk through a restaurants door on an hourly basis. Some people are horrible to those in a position of servitude. Absolutely horrible. I can't begin to count the number of servers I've had cry in my kitchen, or had to talk out of walking out of a shift because of your average asshole being totally fucking shitty to them for a few hours, degrading them for forgetting their side of BBQ or Ranch, then leaving 8% which in essence costs them money after tipout.
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More are training better because of the lack of those applying to lower paid jobs. You can get $15 pouring coffee or handing out hamburgers these days.
15 is minimum wage here. And I'd avoid calling servers a 'low paying job'....though their hourly wage is usually minimum, they do alright. Imagine, if they turn two tables, and score a ten buck tip on each, in an hour, after tip out that's 15 on top of their 15 minimum wage. The ones slinging hash at a greasy spoon, cranking ten tables an hour at a $5 tip per table...that's 50/hr right there. And don't get me started on how dive bar bartenders do...
Which is exactly why waitstaff will never go for a steady wage (what some others make in wherever they work) in lieu of a tipping wage plus tips. Never! And it's why I never feel bad about their tipping wage and I'll never feel guilty about anything having to do with tips. It's their choice.
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I had delicious karma as a waitress once. 3 top in for lunch. It was someone's birthday, so a free slice of cake (or ice cream, can't recall), with singing and generally a joyful dining experience. No problem with food or service that I could tell. But once they vacated the table, no tip. No tip on a $50ish tab. I was really confused. I wracked my brain trying to figure out if there was a problem I missed but I couldn't think of anything.
I start to clear the table and look out into the parking lot to see the 3 people around a vehicle that clearly wasn't starting. My station was almost done for the day so I went out to see if anyone wanted me to call AAA or if they needed help. Again, all of them seemed kind and declined my offer. As I turned to leave, I asked them if there was anything wrong with their service that day or if there was anything I could've done to improve their experience (I think I was like 20 years old). The one guy I spoke to said, "Oh no, not at all. Aside from the car trouble, we had a great time. Why do you ask?" So I said, well in my experience leaving a tip for the server was pretty standard unless there was a problem.
At this point he looks angrily at one of his friends and it became very apparent to me. Either someone swiped up the cash left for the tip on the table, or the person paying the bill decided not to tip. He turned about 5 shades of red and I just said, "No worries. Next time you'll know" and turned to walk back into the restaurant.
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It was always a secret dream of mine to be a waiter.
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It was always a secret dream of mine to be a waiter.
Why?
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More are training better because of the lack of those applying to lower paid jobs. You can get $15 pouring coffee or handing out hamburgers these days.
15 is minimum wage here. And I'd avoid calling servers a 'low paying job'....though their hourly wage is usually minimum, they do alright. Imagine, if they turn two tables, and score a ten buck tip on each, in an hour, after tip out that's 15 on top of their 15 minimum wage. The ones slinging hash at a greasy spoon, cranking ten tables an hour at a $5 tip per table...that's 50/hr right there. And don't get me started on how dive bar bartenders do...
But you know what? they earn every fucking penny for putting up with the type of assholes that walk through a restaurants door on an hourly basis. Some people are horrible to those in a position of servitude. Absolutely horrible. I can't begin to count the number of servers I've had cry in my kitchen, or had to talk out of walking out of a shift because of your average asshole being totally fucking shitty to them for a few hours, degrading them for forgetting their side of BBQ or Ranch, then leaving 8% which in essence costs them money after tipout.
RJ, if you can believe it, here in N.H. the minimum wage fir waitresses is $3.26. That's no joke. Obviously they are getting more competitive after covid but it's still not even near $15.00
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It was always a secret dream of mine to be a waiter.
Why?
His hero is Spider from Goodfellas.
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:lol
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More are training better because of the lack of those applying to lower paid jobs. You can get $15 pouring coffee or handing out hamburgers these days.
15 is minimum wage here. And I'd avoid calling servers a 'low paying job'....though their hourly wage is usually minimum, they do alright. Imagine, if they turn two tables, and score a ten buck tip on each, in an hour, after tip out that's 15 on top of their 15 minimum wage. The ones slinging hash at a greasy spoon, cranking ten tables an hour at a $5 tip per table...that's 50/hr right there. And don't get me started on how dive bar bartenders do...
But you know what? they earn every fucking penny for putting up with the type of assholes that walk through a restaurants door on an hourly basis. Some people are horrible to those in a position of servitude. Absolutely horrible. I can't begin to count the number of servers I've had cry in my kitchen, or had to talk out of walking out of a shift because of your average asshole being totally fucking shitty to them for a few hours, degrading them for forgetting their side of BBQ or Ranch, then leaving 8% which in essence costs them money after tipout.
RJ, if you can believe it, here in N.H. the minimum wage fir waitresses is $3.26. That's no joke. Obviously they are getting more competitive after covid but it's still not even near $15.00
Yup, there's more than a few states like that.
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That's a good question though. Why should it be a minimum? If being super kind and helpful gets you X and being flat and boring gets you X, what's the impetus?
Because being flat (your word-whatever it infers) and boring may lose the restaurant a customer.
That's fair. I just can't think of a restaurant I've been to where I'd stop going because of a server not being very nice/friendly, especially if it was at least neutral and the food was good. Like if I went to a pizza place (or whatever) and thought the pizza was great but the server didn't have a smile/friendly attitude, I wouldn't stop going there.
I would though. I've had bars and such that I just don't go to because the bartenders are dicks.
It shouldn't surprise anyone here based on my posts elsewhere that I'm old school. I'm not interested in a walking Instagram post serving me when I go out to dinner or for a few drinks. When I go into a business meeting, I check my emotions at the door. It's part of my job. I don't think it's unfair to expect that the server/bartender will, for that moment in time, ignore that their husband/wife is cheating on them, or that their dog shat all over the floor before they left for work, and at least pretend to dedicate themselves to my enjoyment of my penne al a vodka for the next hour. :)
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All fair. As long as the servers aren't really "actors". Those people drive me nuts :rollin
I went on a business trip to LA once while with GE. It was always a pain to fill out expense reports, so the guy I was with flipped a coin: every time the person serving us was a wanna-be actor, he paid (and filled out the expense report) and if they weren't, I did. I think I had to expense maybe two meals in the five days we were there. :) :) :)
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All fair. As long as the servers aren't really "actors". Those people drive me nuts :rollin
I went on a business trip to LA once while with GE. It was always a pain to fill out expense reports, so the guy I was with flipped a coin: every time the person serving us was a wanna-be actor, he paid (and filled out the expense report) and if they weren't, I did. I think I had to expense maybe two meals in the five days we were there. :) :) :)
We had a busser who claimed to be a rapper. Chef asked him what paid his rent, rapping or cleaning tables. Kid never mentioned being a rapper in the kitchen again lol
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It was always a secret dream of mine to be a waiter.
Why?
Because I'm a people person.
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Clip of Tim at Cheers in the 80s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz3xX4z7N3c
:P :P
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Clip of Tim at Cheers in the 80s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz3xX4z7N3c
:P :P
:lol :lol :lol
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Clip of Tim at Cheers in the 80s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz3xX4z7N3c
:P :P
:clap:
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C'mon, it ain't like that! :lol
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I know. That guy started with too much money ($5). :P :P
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I know. That guy started with too much money ($5). :P :P
Well, it is like that! :lol
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(https://i.postimg.cc/ZKjwVKNg/spit-coffee.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
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When my husband just puts stuff in the oven 1) without pre-heating it, and 2) without setting the timer, because he thinks he can just tell when it is done. Doesn't he know everything needs to be cooked at the exact temperature and time as listed on the box?
-Mrs. Cool Chris
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My hand would champ typing what the queen thinks of me. Lol
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My hand would champ typing what the queen thinks of me. Lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFbAVJiPPEA
This? ;)
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When my husband just puts stuff in the oven 1) without pre-heating it, and 2) without setting the timer, because he thinks he can just tell when it is done. Doesn't he know everything needs to be cooked at the exact temperature and time as listed on the box?
-Mrs. Cool Chris
Box: 375' for 25 minutes
Chris: Fuck that... 500' for 7 minutes.
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My hand would champ typing what the queen thinks of me. Lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFbAVJiPPEA
This? ;)
More like this.
https://youtu.be/dhJwZMMw8Bc
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When my husband just puts stuff in the oven 1) without pre-heating it, and 2) without setting the timer, because he thinks he can just tell when it is done. Doesn't he know everything needs to be cooked at the exact temperature and time as listed on the box?
-Mrs. Cool Chris
I remember doing that back when my wife and I first started living together. "Hey...it's not done yet. I wonder why." :lol
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When my husband just puts stuff in the oven 1) without pre-heating it, and 2) without setting the timer, because he thinks he can just tell when it is done. Doesn't he know everything needs to be cooked at the exact temperature and time as listed on the box?
-Mrs. Cool Chris
Box: 375' for 25 minutes
Chris: Fuck that... 500' for 7 minutes.
Let's just say we're not letting Mrs. Cool Chris and Mrs. Stadler get together any time soon. :)
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When my husband just puts stuff in the oven 1) without pre-heating it, and 2) without setting the timer, because he thinks he can just tell when it is done. Doesn't he know everything needs to be cooked at the exact temperature and time as listed on the box?
-Mrs. Cool Chris
Box: 375' for 25 minutes
Chris: Fuck that... 500' for 7 minutes.
It's more like:
"Hey Chris, you didn't set the timer, how will you know when the fries are done?"
* I open the oven, take out a fry, and try it.
"They're done."
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My hand would champ typing what the queen thinks of me. Lol
You definitely to not type like a champion.
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My hand would champ typing what the queen thinks of me. Lol
You definitely to not type like a champion.
Just like to not, either.
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My hand would champ typing what the queen thinks of me. Lol
You definitely to not type like a champion.
Just like to not, either.
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/CiYImHHBivpAs/giphy.gif)
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Read your post to get it son.
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My hand would champ typing what the queen thinks of me. Lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFbAVJiPPEA
This? ;)
More like this.
https://youtu.be/dhJwZMMw8Bc
:lol
Ever submit this to TAC's roulette for female vocals? ;)
(I should be careful. I could get banned for that suggestion! :lol)
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That's Alex Lifeson's while Charlene and her best friend. It's hilarious. Very Frank Zappa like.
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That might've scored better! ;D
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:lol
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Fucking iPhone group texts. One guy sends out a birthday invite, and for the next two days I'll be inundated with a nonstop barrage of "Liked Please Join Us. . ." For making "reply to all" the default Steve Jobs deserves his own little corner of hell.
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Fucking iPhone group texts. One guy sends out a birthday invite, and for the next two days I'll be inundated with a nonstop barrage of "Liked Please Join Us. . ." For making "reply to all" the default Steve Jobs deserves his own little corner of hell.
Amen, brother.
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Is that specific to iPhones, or even start with iPhones? Regardless, to your greater point, yes.
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Is that specific to iPhones, or even start with iPhones? Regardless, to your greater point, yes.
I believe that iPhones' default setting is to reply to all. That way everybody in the chat gets annoyed. My theory is that the sorts of people inclined to use iPhone over Android aren't the sorts that'll go digging around to change it to "reply to sender only." I could be wrong about this, but I know the only time this happens it's iPhone people including me in group texts.
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Yeah I hate the "like" text messages. Once I see I'm in any group text that's not of immediate/urgent importance, I mute it. I just generally don't like my phone alerting me constantly for group chats and the extras like a message for a like are just annoying.
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Fucking iPhone group texts. One guy sends out a birthday invite, and for the next two days I'll be inundated with a nonstop barrage of "Liked Please Join Us. . ." For making "reply to all" the default Steve Jobs deserves his own little corner of hell.
And then when I respond to the group chat with my android phone, it doesn't send through the chat, but it sends the message to each person individually, which then confuses the people who got the text. And then I have to reply to them saying, it was for the group chat.
It's a simple thing with extra steps.
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It's kind of exasperating, but also a bit of fun, is explaining sales tax to customers. Since 2016, when the Supreme Court handed down its decision in one of the Dakotas v. Playfair, I don't remember which Dakota did it, but they're basically the same right? Anyway, that decision ended the notion that companies that didn't have a physical presence in a state had to collect sales tax in said state. So, if I had an internet and catalog oriented company in, let's say Indiana, and I sold something into Illinois, I wouldn't be responsible for collecting Illinois sales tax. With that Supreme Court case, any business that does more than $100K in business in a particular state has to collect sales tax for that state if that state collects sales tax. States like Pennsylvania and Connecticut (surprised, Stadler?) had laws that were ready to go and we had to be compliant almost immediately. Some companies took the approach of putting it back on the customers, which of course led to a huge blow up. Others decided to take upon themselves to begin collecting sales tax, which led to some people being upset, but by and large, it went way better and the customers understood. By the end of 2016, there were 7 states on board, with more coming on board in the next few years. Now, some states took their sweet time, like Florida, which went online with it in 2021, and Missouri, who made it official as of January 1st of this year. And with those two states especially, I would get a few cranky old people saying, "I can't believe you are charging sales tax now! I'll just buy local then." Well, go ahead, because you'll be paying the same sales tax you would if it were from us. And then, I always like to remind those cantankerous types that we are doing it to be compliant with the state laws that your governors signed off on. So, don't get mad at us, get mad at your elected officials. Usually shuts them up.
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People who don't know that "halve" is a word.
I have a few cooking groups I frequent on social media. I'm not sure what happened but when people (yes all of them) post about cutting a recipe in half, they say, "I just half the recipe." :facepalm: Halve is the verb people!!!
The other thing I find exasperating is that I seem to be turning into my mother. :lol
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The other thing I find exasperating is that I seem to be turning into my mother. :lol
You're only halve way there.
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The other thing I find exasperating is that I seem to be turning into my mother. :lol
You're only halve way there.
LoL
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Car shopping. I usually enjoy it.
I'm in awe what cars cost right now. I'm shopping around for an SUV with a third row, and even ones with more than 100K miles on the odometer are still commanding well over $20K in a lot of cases. I put upwards of 25K miles on my car per year, so I can't really entertain the idea of buying a car with that many miles from the get-go.
Are there really people out there spending $29K on an 8 year old 4-Runner with 145K miles? I know it's a Toyota and all, but still.
Madness!
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Car shopping. I usually enjoy it.
I'm in awe what cars cost right now. I'm shopping around for an SUV with a third row, and even ones with more than 100K miles on the odometer are still commanding well over $20K in a lot of cases. I put upwards of 25K miles on my car per year, so I can't really entertain the idea of buying a car with that many miles from the get-go.
Are there really people out there spending $29K on an 8 year old 4-Runner with 145K miles? I know it's a Toyota and all, but still.
Madness!
My stepson, for shit's and giggles, priced out a Chevy pickup, 4x4, and not even top of the line he was at just under $100k. There are certified cars at places like Volvo that are mid-50's.
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Car shopping. I usually enjoy it.
I'm in awe what cars cost right now. I'm shopping around for an SUV with a third row, and even ones with more than 100K miles on the odometer are still commanding well over $20K in a lot of cases. I put upwards of 25K miles on my car per year, so I can't really entertain the idea of buying a car with that many miles from the get-go.
Are there really people out there spending $29K on an 8 year old 4-Runner with 145K miles? I know it's a Toyota and all, but still.
Madness!
This makes me feel better. I got a 2011 Escape with 150k or so on it and I am hoping to sell it this year. Was worried I wouldn't even get 1k for it.
I guess we shall see.
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Car shopping. I usually enjoy it.
Um..WUT? :lol
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Car shopping. I usually enjoy it.
I'm in awe what cars cost right now. I'm shopping around for an SUV with a third row, and even ones with more than 100K miles on the odometer are still commanding well over $20K in a lot of cases. I put upwards of 25K miles on my car per year, so I can't really entertain the idea of buying a car with that many miles from the get-go.
Are there really people out there spending $29K on an 8 year old 4-Runner with 145K miles? I know it's a Toyota and all, but still.
Madness!
This makes me feel better. I got a 2011 Escape with 150k or so on it and I am hoping to sell it this year. Was worried I wouldn't even get 1k for it.
I guess we shall see.
You won't, if you're trading it in. Dealer's won't take the risk. But if you have the gumption and wherewithal to sell it yourself, you might do well.
I sold my 2003 X3 with 145,000 for $5400 about 18 months ago, and the best offer I got for trade in was around $2500. I sold my '99 Dodge Ram about six months ago for $2700 and the one offer I got from a dealer was "scrap value".
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Car shopping. I usually enjoy it.
I'm in awe what cars cost right now. I'm shopping around for an SUV with a third row, and even ones with more than 100K miles on the odometer are still commanding well over $20K in a lot of cases. I put upwards of 25K miles on my car per year, so I can't really entertain the idea of buying a car with that many miles from the get-go.
Are there really people out there spending $29K on an 8 year old 4-Runner with 145K miles? I know it's a Toyota and all, but still.
Madness!
This makes me feel better. I got a 2011 Escape with 150k or so on it and I am hoping to sell it this year. Was worried I wouldn't even get 1k for it.
I guess we shall see.
You won't, if you're trading it in. Dealer's won't take the risk. But if you have the gumption and wherewithal to sell it yourself, you might do well.
I sold my 2003 X3 with 145,000 for $5400 about 18 months ago, and the best offer I got for trade in was around $2500. I sold my '99 Dodge Ram about six months ago for $2700 and the one offer I got from a dealer was "scrap value".
Yea, I'm not looking forward to it at all. I'd rather give it away haha but I could use the money.
...you need a car?
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I bought a GMX Canyon 3 years abo with a lot of toys on it for $39,000.00 put 9 grand down and my lousy $1,200.00 I got for my trade in. (2007 Toyota Corolla)
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This makes me feel better. I got a 2011 Escape with 150k or so on it and I am hoping to sell it this year. Was worried I wouldn't even get 1k for it.
I guess we shall see.
Play around the KBB Car Value site, it's just an estimate but gives you an idea.
https://www.kbb.com/whats-my-car-worth/
Also look at what similar cars are selling for. On Cargurus, 2011 Escape are going for 4K, though those are dearlership prices, you selling it will be less than that (Also depends on the trim).
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Car shopping. I usually enjoy it.
Because you do this every few weeks when you have a spare weekend??
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When people don't understand texting rhythm and etticate. I literally have someone having a conversation with themselves with massive paragraphs even after I stopped responding since I was so overwhelmed.
I can hear the phone buzzing as they continue to talk to themselves as I've stopped looking at the phone. :P
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Car shopping. I usually enjoy it.
Because you do this every few weeks when you have a spare weekend??
I love car shopping. I'm already getting excited at finding new car at the end of year.
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How on earth can you love car shopping?
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I enjoyed buying my current car in 2017, which did surprise me a bit. I did some research online, found one I liked and was in my budget, went and drove it, took the wife for a ride, and then went to sign the papers - obviously not a fun exercise, but neither is it unduly painful.
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How on earth can you love car shopping?
I just don't get how you can love something so much you only do once every number of years. Just seems a weird statement.
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How on earth can you love car shopping?
I just don't get how you can love something so much you only do once every number of years. Just seems a weird statement.
I dunno, I’d imagine there are a lot of married men out there that love sex. ;D
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How on earth can you love car shopping?
I just don't get how you can love something so much you only do once every number of years. Just seems a weird statement.
I dunno, I’d imagine there are a lot of married men out there that love sex. ;D
At least you'd get that new car smell each time.
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Y'all are using some weird cologne.
I've never bought a car, but I can only imagine that buying a multi-thousand dollar item that you need to live with for years would stress me out.
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Not really. Our infrastructure is so different here. There's no trains when I live and Uber or a taxi is extremely expensive so you have to own a vehicle.
What my wife and I do is rotate buying a new vehicle every 5 to 6 years. I have a truck and have 2 years 10 months left on my loan. Then she will buy a new vehicle.
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Y'all are using some weird cologne.
I've never bought a car, but I can only imagine that buying a multi-thousand dollar item that you need to live with for years would stress me out.
I get stressed out by it every time. I always walk away feeling ripped off. Though I don't think I really am... they're just so damn expensive. I always worry I got a lemon that I'm going to have to sink a bunch more money into since I always buy used. Having a new (to me) car is fun for a couple months, but the newness wears off and then it's just another tool to get me from A to B.
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How on earth can you love car shopping?
I just don't get how you can love something so much you only do once every number of years. Just seems a weird statement.
I think that's why I like it. It's an exciting exercise. I like researching all the cars, crunching numbers, dancing with the salespeople, etc.
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Tim's right. You've got to have info first to dance. I got cost for the vehicles I narrowed down to from Tripple A & Consumer Reports.
When they try to tell me those costs are not correct, I tell them I'm leaving. It always works.
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Y'all are using some weird cologne.
I've never bought a car, but I can only imagine that buying a multi-thousand dollar item that you need to live with for years would stress me out.
I get stressed out by it every time. I always walk away feeling ripped off. Though I don't think I really am... they're just so damn expensive. I always worry I got a lemon that I'm going to have to sink a bunch more money into since I always buy used. Having a new (to me) car is fun for a couple months, but the newness wears off and then it's just another tool to get me from A to B.
Interesting thought there.
As someone who has probably purchased at least a dozen new cars over his adult life, I suppose the counterpoint view is to look at a car payment as a utility bill (similar to the above post).
I realized early on that I had no interest in wrenching on engines and the few bouts of unforeseen repairs I had with my first car led me to my first lease. Since then, I've been on a steady cycle of every 2.5 to 3 years swapping out my car for whatever's comparable.
Sometimes I lease, sometimes I buy, but I always just roll it into the next thing, and I've managed to spend about the same amount of money each month for nearly 25 years (which is kinda mindblowing considering inflation)
I've always viewed a car as an necessary tool for my professional life, and thus, I rarely do any research. For a longest time I've driven Hondas, and the last two CRVs we purchased, I did the whole process via email to save the hassel. I literally did a drop off and pick up one night on the way home from work, and for the life of me I couldn't tell you if the newest car drives any different than any of the others.
I have friends and co-workers who can't even fathom this process, but I suppose I just don't really care all that much about cars.
The same, I'm sure, is true for most people when it comes to guitars (something I do have a lot of strong opinions on!)
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Speaking of vehicles I've noticed, on the drive back home after dropping my daughter off at school in the morning, so many 18-wheelers punching the gas and driving 80 mph. Those huge trucks driving that fast always make me nervous and I try to GTFO of the way and as far as possible. One time I saw an Oil Tanker constantly switching lanes like it was a sedan while maintaining 80. So nerve-wracking.
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Y'all are using some weird cologne.
I've never bought a car, but I can only imagine that buying a multi-thousand dollar item that you need to live with for years would stress me out.
I get stressed out by it every time. I always walk away feeling ripped off. Though I don't think I really am... they're just so damn expensive. I always worry I got a lemon that I'm going to have to sink a bunch more money into since I always buy used. Having a new (to me) car is fun for a couple months, but the newness wears off and then it's just another tool to get me from A to B.
Interesting thought there.
As someone who has probably purchased at least a dozen new cars over his adult life, I suppose the counterpoint view is to look at a car payment as a utility bill (similar to the above post).
I realized early on that I had no interest in wrenching on engines and the few bouts of unforeseen repairs I had with my first car led me to my first lease. Since then, I've been on a steady cycle of every 2.5 to 3 years swapping out my car for whatever's comparable.
Sometimes I lease, sometimes I buy, but I always just roll it into the next thing, and I've managed to spend about the same amount of money each month for nearly 25 years (which is kinda mindblowing considering inflation)
I've always viewed a car as an necessary tool for my professional life, and thus, I rarely do any research. For a longest time I've driven Hondas, and the last two CRVs we purchased, I did the whole process via email to save the hassel. I literally did a drop off and pick up one night on the way home from work, and for the life of me I couldn't tell you if the newest car drives any different than any of the others.
I have friends and co-workers who can't even fathom this process, but I suppose I just don't really care all that much about cars.
The same, I'm sure, is true for most people when it comes to guitars (something I do have a lot of strong opinions on!)
I can't fathom that process either, simply because it is an expensive way to do it. If it fits in your budget, no problem, but it just wouldn't be my ideal way of doing it. I'm not a car guy either. I see a car as a tool to get me around. I want it to meet my needs and be reasonably reliable. That's about it. I typically buy vehicles that are 3-ish years old and drive them for 10 years. I refuse to have more than one auto loan at a time, so we typically have one newer vehicle with a loan and one older one that's been paid off. I'd love to get off that cycle and just pay cash, but that is never able to happen.
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It's pushing 90 degrees in Hartford CT today (insane for not even being halfway through April), and I see so many women with skirts above their knees on. Golf shorts are a no-no for us dudes though because they "do not uphold our professional image". :( Funny thing, I could probably throw a skirt on and nobody would dare say anything about it out of fear of some kind of micro-aggression lawsuit. Maybe a kilt would be a solid compromise.
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I can't fathom that process either, simply because it is an expensive way to do it. If it fits in your budget, no problem, but it just wouldn't be my ideal way of doing it. I'm not a car guy either. I see a car as a tool to get me around. I want it to meet my needs and be reasonably reliable. That's about it. I typically buy vehicles that are 3-ish years old and drive them for 10 years.
We're the same way. We've never had a car payment as long as we've been married.
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I can't fathom that process either, simply because it is an expensive way to do it. If it fits in your budget, no problem, but it just wouldn't be my ideal way of doing it. I'm not a car guy either. I see a car as a tool to get me around. I want it to meet my needs and be reasonably reliable. That's about it. I typically buy vehicles that are 3-ish years old and drive them for 10 years.
We're the same way. We've never had a car payment as long as we've been married.
I've got two payments left on my CX-9 and it's mine. In my 18 years of driving, I've never not had a car payment. I'm freaking stoked to start getting $400 a month back. Watch me get t-boned the day after I pay it off :lol
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I can't fathom that process either, simply because it is an expensive way to do it. If it fits in your budget, no problem, but it just wouldn't be my ideal way of doing it. I'm not a car guy either. I see a car as a tool to get me around. I want it to meet my needs and be reasonably reliable. That's about it. I typically buy vehicles that are 3-ish years old and drive them for 10 years.
We're the same way. We've never had a car payment as long as we've been married.
I've got two payments left on my CX-9 and it's mine. In my 18 years of driving, I've never not had a car payment. I'm freaking stoked to start getting $400 a month back. Watch me get t-boned the day after I pay it off :lol
Friendly tip: Put the $400 a month into a savings account to build up a down payment for the next vehicle.
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How on earth can you love car shopping?
I'm a huge car guy and have been since I was little, I could put this forum to sleep rambling about cars. Growing up I would go to dealers as often as I could just to check out what's new. That sort of stuck with me as I got older that passion has stuck with me and I just like driving all sorts of stuff. I'm on my 3rd car in the last 4 years.
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I can't fathom that process either, simply because it is an expensive way to do it. If it fits in your budget, no problem, but it just wouldn't be my ideal way of doing it. I'm not a car guy either. I see a car as a tool to get me around. I want it to meet my needs and be reasonably reliable. That's about it. I typically buy vehicles that are 3-ish years old and drive them for 10 years.
We're the same way. We've never had a car payment as long as we've been married.
I've got two payments left on my CX-9 and it's mine. In my 18 years of driving, I've never not had a car payment. I'm freaking stoked to start getting $400 a month back. Watch me get t-boned the day after I pay it off :lol
Friendly tip: Put the $400 a month into a savings account to build up a down payment for the next vehicle.
For sure. I'll be holding onto a good chunk of it for that purpose. I have a down payment nest egg that's pretty well established already. I was thinking of splitting the difference and putting $200 into the next vehicle fund and the the other $200 toward my HELOC payments.
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My new one: larger cars/vehicles.
I swear, every time I park in a strip mall in my little Civic, someone with an SUV parks next to me, which means when I go to back out, anyone driving by may not see me till the very last second because of how much the SUV hides me as I am backing out. It feels like it is only a matter of time before someone crashes into me because they didn't see me thanks to some jackass with a giant truck parking next to me and hiding me. Argh.
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My new one: larger cars/vehicles.
I swear, every time I park in a strip mall in my little Civic, someone with an SUV parks next to me, which means when I go to back out, anyone driving by may not see me till the very last second because of how much the SUV hides me as I am backing out. It feels like it is only a matter of time before someone crashes into me because they didn't see me thanks to some jackass with a giant truck parking next to me and hiding me. Argh.
Also how they park in lots. Always on the lines or you come out and some large truck parks so close you can barely get into your vehicle. I have a 6 cylinder truck and I always open my door to make sure I'm in the lines before I turn it off.
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My new one: larger cars/vehicles.
I swear, every time I park in a strip mall in my little Civic, someone with an SUV parks next to me, which means when I go to back out, anyone driving by may not see me till the very last second because of how much the SUV hides me as I am backing out. It feels like it is only a matter of time before someone crashes into me because they didn't see me thanks to some jackass with a giant truck parking next to me and hiding me. Argh.
Also how they park in lots. Always on the lines or you come out and some large truck parks so close you can barely get into your vehicle. I have a 6 cylinder truck and I always open my door to make sure I'm in the lines before I turn it off.
I'll add one, when your at a stop sign and a big truck comes in the lane next to you blocking your view of traffic. :tdwn
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My new one: larger cars/vehicles.
I swear, every time I park in a strip mall in my little Civic, someone with an SUV parks next to me, which means when I go to back out, anyone driving by may not see me till the very last second because of how much the SUV hides me as I am backing out. It feels like it is only a matter of time before someone crashes into me because they didn't see me thanks to some jackass with a giant truck parking next to me and hiding me. Argh.
I get more peeved at the people that drive so fast in parking lots they can't brake in time to avoid hitting someone trying to back out of a space.
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My new one: larger cars/vehicles.
I swear, every time I park in a strip mall in my little Civic, someone with an SUV parks next to me, which means when I go to back out, anyone driving by may not see me till the very last second because of how much the SUV hides me as I am backing out. It feels like it is only a matter of time before someone crashes into me because they didn't see me thanks to some jackass with a giant truck parking next to me and hiding me. Argh.
Also how they park in lots. Always on the lines or you come out and some large truck parks so close you can barely get into your vehicle. I have a 6 cylinder truck and I always open my door to make sure I'm in the lines before I turn it off.
That sounds great in theory, but then you get some idiot who parks to close to you, making it a tight squeeze to get in your own car.
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My new one: larger cars/vehicles.
I swear, every time I park in a strip mall in my little Civic, someone with an SUV parks next to me, which means when I go to back out, anyone driving by may not see me till the very last second because of how much the SUV hides me as I am backing out. It feels like it is only a matter of time before someone crashes into me because they didn't see me thanks to some jackass with a giant truck parking next to me and hiding me. Argh.
I get more peeved at the people that drive so fast in parking lots they can't brake in time to avoid hitting someone trying to back out of a space.
Honestly, that is probably the bigger issue. People who fly through strip malls like their asses are on fire.
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My new one: larger cars/vehicles.
I swear, every time I park in a strip mall in my little Civic, someone with an SUV parks next to me, which means when I go to back out, anyone driving by may not see me till the very last second because of how much the SUV hides me as I am backing out. It feels like it is only a matter of time before someone crashes into me because they didn't see me thanks to some jackass with a giant truck parking next to me and hiding me. Argh.
I get more peeved at the people that drive so fast in parking lots they can't brake in time to avoid hitting someone trying to back out of a space.
This. It's not just my responsibility to slowly pull out to not get hit. It's their responsibility to drive slow and be aware, especially if there are people getting out of their vehicle.
But also, you probably have someone being irritated because your small car is parked by a huge vehicle and it looks like a spot is open. :lol
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My new one: larger cars/vehicles.
I swear, every time I park in a strip mall in my little Civic, someone with an SUV parks next to me, which means when I go to back out, anyone driving by may not see me till the very last second because of how much the SUV hides me as I am backing out. It feels like it is only a matter of time before someone crashes into me because they didn't see me thanks to some jackass with a giant truck parking next to me and hiding me. Argh.
Also how they park in lots. Always on the lines or you come out and some large truck parks so close you can barely get into your vehicle. I have a 6 cylinder truck and I always open my door to make sure I'm in the lines before I turn it off.
That sounds great in theory, but then you get some idiot who parks to close to you, making it a tight squeeze to get in your own car.
I usually try to park at corner spots for this reason. Also, I almost always back into the parking spot. I find it easier to drive out of a spot than back out of one.
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I can't fathom that process either, simply because it is an expensive way to do it. If it fits in your budget, no problem, but it just wouldn't be my ideal way of doing it. I'm not a car guy either. I see a car as a tool to get me around. I want it to meet my needs and be reasonably reliable. That's about it. I typically buy vehicles that are 3-ish years old and drive them for 10 years.
We're the same way. We've never had a car payment as long as we've been married.
I've got two payments left on my CX-9 and it's mine. In my 18 years of driving, I've never not had a car payment. I'm freaking stoked to start getting $400 a month back. Watch me get t-boned the day after I pay it off :lol
Friendly tip: Put the $400 a month into a savings account to build up a down payment for the next vehicle.
Good idea, but I think I'd put $200/mo into the account and give myself a $200/mo raise. Gotta be able to enjoy being payment free while it lasts.
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My new one: larger cars/vehicles.
I swear, every time I park in a strip mall in my little Civic, someone with an SUV parks next to me, which means when I go to back out, anyone driving by may not see me till the very last second because of how much the SUV hides me as I am backing out. It feels like it is only a matter of time before someone crashes into me because they didn't see me thanks to some jackass with a giant truck parking next to me and hiding me. Argh.
Also how they park in lots. Always on the lines or you come out and some large truck parks so close you can barely get into your vehicle. I have a 6 cylinder truck and I always open my door to make sure I'm in the lines before I turn it off.
That sounds great in theory, but then you get some idiot who parks to close to you, making it a tight squeeze to get in your own car.
I usually try to park at corner spots for this reason. Also, I almost always back into the parking spot. I find it easier to drive out of a spot than back out of one.
I almost always back in myself.
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My new one: larger cars/vehicles.
I swear, every time I park in a strip mall in my little Civic, someone with an SUV parks next to me, which means when I go to back out, anyone driving by may not see me till the very last second because of how much the SUV hides me as I am backing out. It feels like it is only a matter of time before someone crashes into me because they didn't see me thanks to some jackass with a giant truck parking next to me and hiding me. Argh.
I definitely agree with this. On a similar note completely or nearly completely tinted windows drive me up the wall. There are many times when even if the cars next to me aren't much larger than mine I cannot see if there's anyone coming due to the tinted windows when I'm looking back. They're supposedly illegal or highly restricted here in NY but I haven't seen any enforcement.
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It's pushing 90 degrees in Hartford CT today (insane for not even being halfway through April), and I see so many women with skirts above their knees on. Golf shorts are a no-no for us dudes though because they "do not uphold our professional image". :( Funny thing, I could probably throw a skirt on and nobody would dare say anything about it out of fear of some kind of micro-aggression lawsuit. Maybe a kilt would be a solid compromise.
Do it! I worked with a guy who wore a kilt almost every day. He was from Scotland, but still. :lol
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It's pushing 90 degrees in Hartford CT today (insane for not even being halfway through April), and I see so many women with skirts above their knees on. Golf shorts are a no-no for us dudes though because they "do not uphold our professional image".
I remember this from my last office job.
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It's pushing 90 degrees in Hartford CT today (insane for not even being halfway through April), and I see so many women with skirts above their knees on. Golf shorts are a no-no for us dudes though because they "do not uphold our professional image".
I remember this from my last office job.
It sucks that shorts aren't acceptable for office jobs because I would wear those over jeans/slacks in the warmer weather. I don't have a dress code at my company, but I also don't work in our corporate office. The building I do report to, also, does not have a dress code (as far as I know...) and it's very casual. While I could wear shorts, I'd be the only one so I don't. I wore shorts when I was in Singapore though, screw dealing with that heat all day in pants (and I was the only one wearing them at that building).
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My job made dress shorts acceptable for the office. Which makes me happy.
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I am starting up a new service offering for my company with my team of 11. I designed a bunch of forms and documents for the new processes. I made everything electronic so that we can just file it in a network folder and e-sign everything. We're getting started on some of our first customers and I find the two people doing all the set-up with stacks of paper on their desks having printed everything out. The whole freaking point of everything I worked on was to eliminate all the paper! I'll chalk it up to being a new process for now, but this better not continue.
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As a relatively old person, I admit that the notion of e-signing legal documents are something I don't like. I'm all about limiting paper use but it just doesn't feel right to me. I guess I'm old school.
I also don't like using my finger to sign credit card receipts. I mean, if I ever had to go to court and the judge asked if that was my signature, I'd have a very hard time saying yes because it sure doesn't ever look like my legal signature.
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As a relatively old person, I admit that the notion of e-signing legal documents are something I don't like. I'm all about limiting paper use but it just doesn't feel right to me. I guess I'm old school.
I also don't like using my finger to sign credit card receipts. I mean, if I ever had to go to court and the judge asked if that was my signature, I'd have a very hard time saying yes because it sure doesn't ever look like my legal signature.
I get that e-signing is hard to get used to. I'm coming around on it obviously. We have a sister division in Ireland who does the same work as us and they have an entire room dedicated to all their paper files. As soon as I saw that I knew I wanted to be all electronic. It's just so wasteful.
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As a relatively old person, I admit that the notion of e-signing legal documents are something I don't like. I'm all about limiting paper use but it just doesn't feel right to me. I guess I'm old school.
I also don't like using my finger to sign credit card receipts. I mean, if I ever had to go to court and the judge asked if that was my signature, I'd have a very hard time saying yes because it sure doesn't ever look like my legal signature.
I get that e-signing is hard to get used to. I'm coming around on it obviously. We have a sister division in Ireland who does the same work as us and they have an entire room dedicated to all their paper files. As soon as I saw that I knew I wanted to be all electronic. It's just so wasteful.
It's not just wasteful, it's requires upkeep to make it searchable at all. I can understand the feeling of distrust with e-signing, but it's just so much better not just for the environment, but for keeping records too.
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We have gone to offering Docusign as an alternative for most of our documents, but we still have a lot of, well, "older" customers, some of which don't use internet or email at all. Indeed, we still received some documents by fax.
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I am starting up a new service offering for my company with my team of 11. I designed a bunch of forms and documents for the new processes. I made everything electronic so that we can just file it in a network folder and e-sign everything. We're getting started on some of our first customers and I find the two people doing all the set-up with stacks of paper on their desks having printed everything out. The whole freaking point of everything I worked on was to eliminate all the paper! I'll chalk it up to being a new process for now, but this better not continue.
I have grudgingly come around to Docusign and what not, but I do contract reviews and trainings, and in both instances, I print out my documents as well. It's easier on the eyes to read a contract on real paper, as well as easier to make notes and edits, and with paper slides, I can better manage my time.
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E-Sig has been around for nearly 10 years that I know of. We bought land remotely in 2014 and didn't physically sign a piece of paper and I find it no different than if you click the checkbox on the EULA when you install a piece of software.
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I know this is going to make me sound like an old lady but oh well.
I'm on vacation in Oahu. Yesterday my brother-in-law drove us all around the island. Beautiful day. Saw so many great places that people just hanging out on Waikiki Beach would never believe. Lanikai Beach hello!!
Anyway, at one point we took a wrong turn and wound up on a small road with jungle-like growth on both sides. It was nice in the shade, but there wasn't much to look at....no views and no houses around that I could see. Down the road we see 2 girls in the middle of the road. As we approach in the car, they jump up from laying down and move over to the side to let us pass. They are wearing flower crowns and these sort of maxi-dress things. As we get up to where they are gathered on the side, I notice they are looking at selfies they'd obviously been taking on their phones together.
Now I don't begrudge anyone a good time and taking selfies is hardly something new to see people doing while on vacation. But I'm like....you are in one of the arguably most beautiful places in the entire world and here you are on a desolate road in the middle of nowhere laying in the muddy road posing for selfies? Okay.... :huh:
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This bugs me more than it should...
I'm a member of a couple of parent groups for my kid's college. Generally, it's a good source of information, and there's a person from the school who posts regularly and answers questions and is super helpful. But occasionally (more frequently than should be the case) we get posts like this:
"Are parents able to see our students grades? Schedules? What about meal plan balances?"
FFS! These are adult students. Their educational records are THEIR business, not their parents' business. If you want to know your kid's grades and schedule, ask your kid!
And there are tons of posts like, "my kid has tells me the bathroom in the dorm is disgusting; whom can I contact to discuss?" YOU DON'T! Stop trying to micro-manage your kid's life! Like I said, it bugs me more than it should.
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This bugs me more than it should...
I'm a member of a couple of parent groups for my kid's college. Generally, it's a good source of information, and there's a person from the school who posts regularly and answers questions and is super helpful. But occasionally (more frequently than should be the case) we get posts like this:
"Are parents able to see our students grades? Schedules? What about meal plan balances?"
FFS! These are adult students. Their educational records are THEIR business, not their parents' business. If you want to know your kid's grades and schedule, ask your kid!
And there are tons of posts like, "my kid has tells me the bathroom in the dorm is disgusting; whom can I contact to discuss?" YOU DON'T! Stop trying to micro-manage your kid's life! Like I said, it bugs me more than it should.
Yeah, helicopter parents are a big issue in higher ed, specially when they don't understand that after their kids turn 18, it doesn't matter if they're paying for their tuition, the students have the right to privacy, even from their parents.
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This bugs me more than it should...
I'm a member of a couple of parent groups for my kid's college. Generally, it's a good source of information, and there's a person from the school who posts regularly and answers questions and is super helpful. But occasionally (more frequently than should be the case) we get posts like this:
"Are parents able to see our students grades? Schedules? What about meal plan balances?"
FFS! These are adult students. Their educational records are THEIR business, not their parents' business. If you want to know your kid's grades and schedule, ask your kid!
And there are tons of posts like, "my kid has tells me the bathroom in the dorm is disgusting; whom can I contact to discuss?" YOU DON'T! Stop trying to micro-manage your kid's life! Like I said, it bugs me more than it should.
Tell me about it. I work at a university counseling center and we recently had to deal with one of those parents. Luckily we can always use our confidentiality to get out of almost any of those convos.
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This bugs me more than it should...
I'm a member of a couple of parent groups for my kid's college. Generally, it's a good source of information, and there's a person from the school who posts regularly and answers questions and is super helpful. But occasionally (more frequently than should be the case) we get posts like this:
"Are parents able to see our students grades? Schedules? What about meal plan balances?"
FFS! These are adult students. Their educational records are THEIR business, not their parents' business. If you want to know your kid's grades and schedule, ask your kid!
And there are tons of posts like, "my kid has tells me the bathroom in the dorm is disgusting; whom can I contact to discuss?" YOU DON'T! Stop trying to micro-manage your kid's life! Like I said, it bugs me more than it should.
Well, I understand your point, but as a parents, we are spending a TON of money on tuition/R&B.
Yeah, helicopter parents are a big issue in higher ed, specially when they don't understand that after their kids turn 18, it doesn't matter if they're paying for their tuition, the students have the right to privacy, even from their parents.
The money is too large. If the kid expects that much privacy, then they can pay their own tuition.
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As someone who paid (half) for my kid's college education, and who... well, let's be polite and say there might or might not be a "helicopter parent" involved in my situation, the money is large, and there's a degree to which it's less about privacy than priorities - in other words, the lines aren't always crystal clear - but I know for me, I've consciously made a decision to encourage her to fight her own battles. If she doesn't mind a filthy bathroom, that's on her.
Thankfully, a) I didn't have to worry about my kid's grades, b) her school gave me access to her grades as a matter of course, and c) I knew how to work a browser and set up a login and password (some of these parents aren't helicopters; they're clearly too stupid to fly) so that part wasn't an issue.
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Tim, I get your point. I do expect my kid to keep me generally in the loop about things like grades.
What bugs me is people who think the school should be giving them access. And the stuff about "how can I rectify the disgusting bathroom situation for my kid" is an entirely different thing. While my kid has certainly mentioned the bathroom situation in her dorm, she would never expect me to get involved (in part that's because of how shitty she and her brother are at keeping their shared bathroom at home clean).
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Tim, I get your point. I do expect my kid to keep me generally in the loop about things like grades.
What bugs me is people who think the school should be giving them access. And the stuff about "how can I rectify the disgusting bathroom situation for my kid" is an entirely different thing. While my kid has certainly mentioned the bathroom situation in her dorm, she would never expect me to get involved (in part that's because of how shitty she and her brother are at keeping their shared bathroom at home clean).
I get it. People think that because they pay for something, they're due answers, responses, information, etc..
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For the record I didn't use the term "helicopter parents" as an insult, but more as a description of the type of parent involvement PG was describing. Apologies if that didn't come across.
Now, I don't have kids, so I can't speak from a parent's perspective. But from an administrative point of view, the school doesn't differentiate that the money is too large or no money at all. Their responsibility is to the student. Should you (the parent) have a general sense of what's going on, of course, but anything specific to the student it's up to said student if they want to share the information with the parents. Once the student turns 18 (which is the majority of college students), the parents lose the right to certain information. Not saying it is right or wrong, just the way it is.
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Outside perspective: I kind of gather that going off to college is sort of a stepping stone between living at home with the rents and "good luck, GTFO!" I can understand parents wanting to stay in the loop to a certain extent, as opposed to just casting them off to the fates. Part of meeting half way is extending some privacy, and that's something that the school should allow to be customized. When I go to the doctor I have to tell them who can and who cannot have access to my health information. Seems like something like that should apply here, and be left up to the student. "Can your parents access your grades?" Simple enough. From that point, Tim can lower the boom on his kid and say "I get to stay informed or you can pay your own way," and some other parent can extend that added privacy to their kid.
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Yeah, but what kid wouldn't block their parents from learning their grades. I think most parents who pay expect to know at least the grades. The extra curricular activities are what the parents don't want to know until the grades are poor. You give some rope but they can hang themselves.
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Yeah, but what kid wouldn't block their parents from learning their grades. I think most parents who pay expect to know at least the grades. The extra curricular activities are what the parents don't want to know until the grades are poor. You give some rope but they can hang themselves.
Kids who want their kids to keep footing the bill.
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Yeah, but what kid wouldn't block their parents from learning their grades. I think most parents who pay expect to know at least the grades. The extra curricular activities are what the parents don't want to know until the grades are poor. You give some rope but they can hang themselves.
But, assuming the student is 18 or above, the parents have no rights to that unless it’s in a contract with the school. And it’s not. So it becomes a matter between the parent and kid. School doesn’t play a role in that. Obvious exceptions for safety.
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Yeah, but what kid wouldn't block their parents from learning their grades. I think most parents who pay expect to know at least the grades. The extra curricular activities are what the parents don't want to know until the grades are poor. You give some rope but they can hang themselves.
Kids who want their kids to keep footing the bill.
Some, yes but I think most parents paying are responsible adults.
The real conversation should be, is the cost of college good value in the long run? So many people pay an insane amount of money and most don't get the job they are looking for or the pay they are looking for.
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Yeah, but what kid wouldn't block their parents from learning their grades. I think most parents who pay expect to know at least the grades. The extra curricular activities are what the parents don't want to know until the grades are poor. You give some rope but they can hang themselves.
But, assuming the student is 18 or above, the parents have no rights to that unless it’s in a contract with the school. And it’s not. So it becomes a matter between the parent and kid. School doesn’t play a role in that. Obvious exceptions for safety.
I completely get that. A healthy parent/ young adult relationship, normally has good communication. But if the young adult is not willing to tell the parents what grades they are getting, most who pay for college will not foot the bill then. The young adult loses out. I know there is those who get scholarships and fund they schooling themselves and they deserve all the privacy they want but it is a delicate situation when the parent pays.
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It just sounds like a Trust issue to me. How much do you trust your child to be a well-rounded Adult now that they are, under the law, an adult? Then I start to wonder, what does it mean to be an Adult? Are Teens capable of being what it means to be an Adult at the age of 18?
Most teens, once they turn 18 are glad to be out that door and living the life they want to be living. Since as an Adult, they are now able to make their own decisions and face their own consequences. They as their own individual are capable of answering for themselves and being responsible for themselves.
Personally, I find it fascinating that people are sending their children to College, thinking it's the right thing for them, when in fact it isn't, these Teens end up struggling and in reality, they are not really showing they are ready to be an Adult. I also find it very fascinating having a very different perspective about College, since I am going to school at a later age in my 30's, being independent in paying for it myself through loans, scholarships, grants, and that sort of stuff.
I also find it fascinating, the reason I didn't go to College after high school is because my mindset at the time was just about partying, being young, wild, free, dumb, and broke. Now, if I were forced to have gone to College after high school, I would've likely ended up just partying, being late to class, and not really paying attention or focusing on my studies. My grades would've likely suffered as a result.
Now take my situation into account. What happens when a Teen with this type of mentality is forced to go to College?
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Parents getting that involved are shitty parents. Do they still wipe their kids asses too? You enabled your toddler to clean, feed, and dress themselves - enable your adult-aged child to take care of adult-aged problems. The role of a parent is to prepare your child to live in the world. Do these kinds of parents want to be solving their kids' problems when they are 25? 30? 40? At some point, the bird has to fly from the nest. The longer parents like this solve every problem in their kids lives, the less capable these kids are of living on their own. They're doing their kids a disservice.
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Jeez, when and how did this become an attack on parenting?
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Jeez, when and how did this become an attack on parenting?
Tim, I get your point. I do expect my kid to keep me generally in the loop about things like grades.
What bugs me is people who think the school should be giving them access. And the stuff about "how can I rectify the disgusting bathroom situation for my kid" is an entirely different thing. While my kid has certainly mentioned the bathroom situation in her dorm, she would never expect me to get involved (in part that's because of how shitty she and her brother are at keeping their shared bathroom at home clean).
I get it. People think that because they pay for something, they're due answers, responses, information, etc..
Just because you as a parent are paying for your Adults Education means you can suddenly be in control of most aspects of their Adult Life? In our American Society, once a child turns 18, they don't even have to tell you as a parent squat. As an Adult human being, your child can very well say "So long, and thanks for all the fish." and you will never see them again for who knows how long, some people grow old without ever seeing their children again.
My main issue with college is not about parenting. It's about how much it costs. For an Adult Teen right out of high school to actually be independent in paying for their own Adult Education, and not have to burden their parents of any financial responsibility, they would need to be working at the minimum legal age, saving those earnings, getting good grades to apply for scholarships, grants, and other ways that will pay for your education. This is if the costs of tuition include housing on campus. Even at that, if you don't live on campus, you are going to have to stay off campus and have more Adult responsibilities such as paying rent, food, utilities, etc...that comes with being an Adult.
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This bugs me more than it should...
I'm a member of a couple of parent groups for my kid's college. Generally, it's a good source of information, and there's a person from the school who posts regularly and answers questions and is super helpful. But occasionally (more frequently than should be the case) we get posts like this:
"Are parents able to see our students grades? Schedules? What about meal plan balances?"
FFS! These are adult students. Their educational records are THEIR business, not their parents' business. If you want to know your kid's grades and schedule, ask your kid!
And there are tons of posts like, "my kid has tells me the bathroom in the dorm is disgusting; whom can I contact to discuss?" YOU DON'T! Stop trying to micro-manage your kid's life! Like I said, it bugs me more than it should.
Since apparently, this also bugs me more than it should, I will respond to the post.
In regards to the bolded. You are saying that the parents are fighting battles for their Adult children, when their Adult children should be more than capable of contacting the right people to discuss their current living situation as an Adult?
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This bugs me more than it should...
I'm a member of a couple of parent groups for my kid's college. Generally, it's a good source of information, and there's a person from the school who posts regularly and answers questions and is super helpful. But occasionally (more frequently than should be the case) we get posts like this:
"Are parents able to see our students grades? Schedules? What about meal plan balances?"
FFS! These are adult students. Their educational records are THEIR business, not their parents' business. If you want to know your kid's grades and schedule, ask your kid!
And there are tons of posts like, "my kid has tells me the bathroom in the dorm is disgusting; whom can I contact to discuss?" YOU DON'T! Stop trying to micro-manage your kid's life! Like I said, it bugs me more than it should.
Since apparently, this also bugs me more than it should, I will respond to the post.
In regards to the bolded. You are saying that the parents are fighting battles for their Adult children, when their Adult children should be more than capable of contacting the right people to discuss their current living situation as an Adult?
Yes. If there's a problem with the dorm bathroom, they should be talking to their resident advisor and so on. They can certainly discuss with the parents and seek advice from the parents, but the parents shouldn't be involving themselves in the situation.
As for grades, it's pretty simple. As a matter of law, the parent is entitled to nothing from the school because the school is legally prohibited from disseminating the information to anyone other than the student or a designee of the student. If the parent wants to take the position that paying the bills means they get access, that's a perfectly reasonable position to take, but it's something to be worked out between the parents and the adult student.
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So this is going to come off as first world problem and I debated writing this but just needed to vent:
I am so fucking sick of my car, or more accurately the absolutely terrible dealer support. Last year in June after a lot of saving I was finally able to afford my dream car. I fucking love the thing, it makes me happy every time see it in the garage and every time I get into to drive I just get a huge smile on my face.
What doesn't make me happy is that it's been in the shop 20% of it's time I've had it. While I get that some cars just have issues the what really grinds my fucking gears is the terrible dealer support for warranty work, I've been to three dealers and all of them either did a shit job, or broke something else on the car that I had to come back and get repaired. It's disheartening to spend so much on something and get absolutely zero communication from the people who are supposed to be fixing it.
I think it's just time to trade it in over the next couple months.
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What’s the car?
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2019 Porsche 718 Cayman GTS
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That’s weird. The Porsche dealers in my area are reputed to be excellent.
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Yea I've been to three and they've been terrible. For example when I bought the car it had to go in the shop a month later for 7 weeks. They offered to drive the back to my house when the work was done which was cool. They drove it back without the brake ducting (leaky CV boot had to be fixed) secured so it was just dragging on the ground for miles. There was also coffee spilled on my center console and I hadn't drank anything in the car.
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My father almost bought a used Porsche 911 and was advised that unless he has a mechanic that specializes in European cars and doesn't mind paying $3000 for a brake job, he should consider looking at something else. There's something like 9 Porsche dealerships in my small state, and the advice was to just not get the car instead of relying on a dealer to service it :lol
That really sucks about your experience though, and first world problem or not, shit service is shit service. I feel you on it always being in the shop. I loved my Mini Cooper to death, but it felt like it was in the shop every other quarter and costing me a grand or two every time I went in. If I didn't work 3 minutes from the dealership, it'd have been a royal PITA.
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Yea Porsche has some great campaigns about their reliability but what I've quickly come to learn is that the cars are just in the shop as much as anything else except that most owners are wealthy enough to have multiple cars so it doesn't matter how long it stays there.
The first time I dropped my car off I got a loaner which was sweet (although to be expected as it was warranty work and I spent near six figures for my car). I get into this loaner with only 1k miles on it and it has no gas, the miles left in the tank was zero and it was filthy on another level. Dried, sticky coffee stays everywhere, cigarette burns in the seats, the inside of the windshield was absolutely filthy. Not to mention they forgot I was even coming in so I was late for work waiting around.
You also aren't kidding on the service prices but I was aware of that going in. Oil change for my car is $430, the 40K service is going to be $1600 but I'm going to get rid of it before ever getting to that point.
I had better service at the Hyundai dealer with the torn leather seats in the waiting room and room temperature faygo
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Back to the parents with college students. We have some good friends who's son got into Bennington in Vermont. I haven't checked lately, but at least at one point, it was the most expensive college in the US. And they were paying his out-of-state tuition.
So he gets there and does ok the first term then blows off the second term and doesn't even register for classes the third term. All the while, parents are sending checks - big fucking checks - to the school. The kid finally cops to the fact that he's basically living on campus without going to any classes (because he's being kicked out of the school) AFTER 2 terms of this. School had never told the parents anything but continued to cash the checks of course. I think they were out somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 grand.
Good times.
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That's one thing I'll give Mini a ton of props for... they had a fleet of pristine loaner cars. Everyone of them had every option imaginable and you always felt like you were climbing in a new vehicle. What are you thinking of getting in this car's place?
Jag's F-Type is in that realm. I think that's one of the best looking <$100K cars on the market.
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Funny you say F-Type, it's on my short list although they have a ton of their own problems. That said the V8 ftype has one of the best sounding exhausts you can get wtihout spending a quarter of a million dollars.
I'm pretty much open to everything now. I checked out the C8 corvette and it was nice but not for how much they are going for, I really like the new BMW M4, I also drove the Lexus LC500 which is also an amazing car.
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My father almost bought a used Porsche 911 and was advised that unless he has a mechanic that specializes in European cars and doesn't mind paying $3000 for a brake job, he should consider looking at something else. There's something like 9 Porsche dealerships in my small state, and the advice was to just not get the car instead of relying on a dealer to service it :lol
That really sucks about your experience though, and first world problem or not, shit service is shit service. I feel you on it always being in the shop. I loved my Mini Cooper to death, but it felt like it was in the shop every other quarter and costing me a grand or two every time I went in. If I didn't work 3 minutes from the dealership, it'd have been a royal PITA.
Shit service is shit service, no question.
But I live with a guy who is a certified BMW/Volvo/Volkswagon mechanic. There are differences in parts, there are differences in the process for repair (a transmission on a RWD BMW is x hours, a transmission on an all wheel drive Audi TT, transversely mounted, is x*3 or x*4 hours), and there are differences in the systems (my 2006 BMW had sensors on the brakes that made brake jobs more than just "rotors and pads") but cars are cars. Whether it's a dealer or a private mechanic, finding someone that is qualified, and trustworthy is the key. I will ask my son tonight (if I see him) but I can't imagine a brake job for a Porsche is necessarily a $3000 expense (I don't know if you're being facetious, but I'm assuming you are; still, that's 3.5 to 4 times what a brake job ought to cost).
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My father almost bought a used Porsche 911 and was advised that unless he has a mechanic that specializes in European cars and doesn't mind paying $3000 for a brake job, he should consider looking at something else. There's something like 9 Porsche dealerships in my small state, and the advice was to just not get the car instead of relying on a dealer to service it :lol
That really sucks about your experience though, and first world problem or not, shit service is shit service. I feel you on it always being in the shop. I loved my Mini Cooper to death, but it felt like it was in the shop every other quarter and costing me a grand or two every time I went in. If I didn't work 3 minutes from the dealership, it'd have been a royal PITA.
Shit service is shit service, no question.
But I live with a guy who is a certified BMW/Volvo/Volkswagon mechanic. There are differences in parts, there are differences in the process for repair (a transmission on a RWD BMW is x hours, a transmission on an all wheel drive Audi TT, transversely mounted, is x*3 or x*4 hours), and there are differences in the systems (my 2006 BMW had sensors on the brakes that made brake jobs more than just "rotors and pads") but cars are cars. Whether it's a dealer or a private mechanic, finding someone that is qualified, and trustworthy is the key. I will ask my son tonight (if I see him) but I can't imagine a brake job for a Porsche is necessarily a $3000 expense (I don't know if you're being facetious, but I'm assuming you are; still, that's 3.5 to 4 times what a brake job ought to cost).
Depending on the brakes you spec'd with your Porsche it can absolutely be a $3k job. If you got ceramic brakes or those new mirror PSCB brakes on the cayenne you're looking at $15k for a brake job.
That 40k service I mentioned for my car is an oil change and spark plugs, that's it. They check a bunch of fluids and filters in the process too but from an actual service point of view it's just plugs and oil.
You can always take it to an indie shop and get it down for cheaper, and a lot of porsche folks do that but parts are still expensive.
This also isn't limited to just porsche, you can option that new M4 I was talking about with ceramic brakes which means $10k for replacement. Standard brakes change is $1800 for the standard set.
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My father almost bought a used Porsche 911 and was advised that unless he has a mechanic that specializes in European cars and doesn't mind paying $3000 for a brake job, he should consider looking at something else. There's something like 9 Porsche dealerships in my small state, and the advice was to just not get the car instead of relying on a dealer to service it :lol
That really sucks about your experience though, and first world problem or not, shit service is shit service. I feel you on it always being in the shop. I loved my Mini Cooper to death, but it felt like it was in the shop every other quarter and costing me a grand or two every time I went in. If I didn't work 3 minutes from the dealership, it'd have been a royal PITA.
Shit service is shit service, no question.
But I live with a guy who is a certified BMW/Volvo/Volkswagon mechanic. There are differences in parts, there are differences in the process for repair (a transmission on a RWD BMW is x hours, a transmission on an all wheel drive Audi TT, transversely mounted, is x*3 or x*4 hours), and there are differences in the systems (my 2006 BMW had sensors on the brakes that made brake jobs more than just "rotors and pads") but cars are cars. Whether it's a dealer or a private mechanic, finding someone that is qualified, and trustworthy is the key. I will ask my son tonight (if I see him) but I can't imagine a brake job for a Porsche is necessarily a $3000 expense (I don't know if you're being facetious, but I'm assuming you are; still, that's 3.5 to 4 times what a brake job ought to cost).
I suspect that Porsche went out of their way to insure that they do cost that much. All they'd have to do is mandate a code reset somewhere in the electronics that only the mothership is allowed to perform. In this case they'd be able to claim it's a safety feature. Manufacturers are even doing that with batteries nowadays. Just slap a new Diehard in there and it'll be dead in a month. "Didn't you know we have to reprogram the car to the new battery, dumbass?" My boss got burned on that one with his Lexus.
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I am surprised about the dealer, though. Down here that would never fly. They're ripoff artists to be sure, but they have to put on all of the bells and whistles. Customer loyalty is crucial. Everybody in Dallas is trying to compete with Sewell, and they've set the bar very high. BMW isn't great, Audi beat the hell out of them, but it's still not a bad place if you insist on going in to get fisted.
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Back to the parents with college students. We have some good friends who's son got into Bennington in Vermont. I haven't checked lately, but at least at one point, it was the most expensive college in the US. And they were paying his out-of-state tuition.
So he gets there and does ok the first term then blows off the second term and doesn't even register for classes the third term. All the while, parents are sending checks - big fucking checks - to the school. The kid finally cops to the fact that he's basically living on campus without going to any classes (because he's being kicked out of the school) AFTER 2 terms of this. School had never told the parents anything but continued to cash the checks of course. I think they were out somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 grand.
Good times.
They should sue the kid.
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See here in the carolinas it's different, my local BMW place was awesome when I had my 340 but I've been to 3 different porsche dealers, all terrible.
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Jeez, when and how did this become an attack on parenting?
Depends on what you call parenting, I suppose.
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My father almost bought a used Porsche 911 and was advised that unless he has a mechanic that specializes in European cars and doesn't mind paying $3000 for a brake job, he should consider looking at something else. There's something like 9 Porsche dealerships in my small state, and the advice was to just not get the car instead of relying on a dealer to service it :lol
That really sucks about your experience though, and first world problem or not, shit service is shit service. I feel you on it always being in the shop. I loved my Mini Cooper to death, but it felt like it was in the shop every other quarter and costing me a grand or two every time I went in. If I didn't work 3 minutes from the dealership, it'd have been a royal PITA.
Shit service is shit service, no question.
But I live with a guy who is a certified BMW/Volvo/Volkswagon mechanic. There are differences in parts, there are differences in the process for repair (a transmission on a RWD BMW is x hours, a transmission on an all wheel drive Audi TT, transversely mounted, is x*3 or x*4 hours), and there are differences in the systems (my 2006 BMW had sensors on the brakes that made brake jobs more than just "rotors and pads") but cars are cars. Whether it's a dealer or a private mechanic, finding someone that is qualified, and trustworthy is the key. I will ask my son tonight (if I see him) but I can't imagine a brake job for a Porsche is necessarily a $3000 expense (I don't know if you're being facetious, but I'm assuming you are; still, that's 3.5 to 4 times what a brake job ought to cost).
Depending on the brakes you spec'd with your Porsche it can absolutely be a $3k job. If you got ceramic brakes or those new mirror PSCB brakes on the cayenne you're looking at $15k for a brake job.
That 40k service I mentioned for my car is an oil change and spark plugs, that's it. They check a bunch of fluids and filters in the process too but from an actual service point of view it's just plugs and oil.
You can always take it to an indie shop and get it down for cheaper, and a lot of porsche folks do that but parts are still expensive.
This also isn't limited to just porsche, you can option that new M4 I was talking about with ceramic brakes which means $10k for replacement. Standard brakes change is $1800 for the standard set.
HAHA, another conversation I have with my step son. It COULD BE a $3000 brake job, but doesn't HAVE TO BE. That's the point I'm making. There's a place down in southern Connecticut - FCP Euro - a great resource for European generally and BMW specifically parts that you can literally find parts - of varying degrees of quality and performance - that are orders of magnitude more expensive.
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Back to the parents with college students. We have some good friends who's son got into Bennington in Vermont. I haven't checked lately, but at least at one point, it was the most expensive college in the US. And they were paying his out-of-state tuition.
So he gets there and does ok the first term then blows off the second term and doesn't even register for classes the third term. All the while, parents are sending checks - big fucking checks - to the school. The kid finally cops to the fact that he's basically living on campus without going to any classes (because he's being kicked out of the school) AFTER 2 terms of this. School had never told the parents anything but continued to cash the checks of course. I think they were out somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 grand.
Good times.
They should sue the kid.
Oh they were plenty mad at him, of course. He didn't have a pot to piss in, so suing him would've gotten them nowhere. Turns out he got mono or something in the 2nd term and he just sort of gave up after that. A lot of 18 year olds are kinda dumb so while they were pissed off at how he handled things, they were miffed that school never bothered to let them know the son they were paying for wasn't attending classes. The kid's dad is a high school teacher so he understood the laws around education confidentiality, but still.
Good news is this kid is now a fully functioning adult who is doing well in his life but never completed his higher education. I know there was some sort of pay back plan involved but I didn't feel it was any of my business to ask about the specifics of that.
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Back to the parents with college students. We have some good friends who's son got into Bennington in Vermont. I haven't checked lately, but at least at one point, it was the most expensive college in the US. And they were paying his out-of-state tuition.
So he gets there and does ok the first term then blows off the second term and doesn't even register for classes the third term. All the while, parents are sending checks - big fucking checks - to the school. The kid finally cops to the fact that he's basically living on campus without going to any classes (because he's being kicked out of the school) AFTER 2 terms of this. School had never told the parents anything but continued to cash the checks of course. I think they were out somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 grand.
Good times.
They should sue the kid.
Oh they were plenty mad at him, of course. He didn't have a pot to piss in, so suing him would've gotten them nowhere. Turns out he got mono or something in the 2nd term and he just sort of gave up after that. A lot of 18 year olds are kinda dumb so while they were pissed off at how he handled things, they were miffed that school never bothered to let them know the son they were paying for wasn't attending classes. The kid's dad is a high school teacher so he understood the laws around education confidentiality, but still.
Good news is this kid is now a fully functioning adult who is doing well in his life but never completed his higher education. I know there was some sort of pay back plan involved but I didn't feel it was any of my business to ask about the specifics of that.
As a responsible Adult. It should be up to that Adult to inform his own parents of his mistake. Admitting his faults is the mature, Adult thing to do right?
And as Adults, the parents should have been more aware of their Adult's habits at school. Like calling him everyday, maybe even visiting him, there's ways to be in good communication with your child.
Again, it's taking accountability. It's not the schools responsibility to inform parents of their own child's behaviors or schooling. It's College, where you are supposed to think for yourself, to speak your own mind, and gain more experience and understanding of how the world functions within this reality, and also where you get first hand experience of being a responsible Adult.
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If the parent is paying the bill, the parent is the "customer" for the school. They should be given basic information of what their money is paying for. Classes registered for and grades aren't too much to expect for paying many tens of thousands of dollars a year. I personally don't think the student gets an expectation of privacy over the basic stuff if they aren't pay the bills.
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If the parent is paying the bill, the parent is the "customer" for the school. They should be given basic information of what their money is paying for. Classes registered for and grades aren't too much to expect for paying many tens of thousands of dollars a year. I personally don't think the student gets an expectation of privacy over the basic stuff if they aren't pay the bills.
I'm with you here. Certain info should be off limits - Things like visits to school counselors, number of trips to the dining hall, etc.. But over 18 or not... if the parents' names are anywhere on finances, they have every bit of right to know how that money is being spent. The schools advocate for keeping that info secret because every semester there are dozens, maybe even hundreds pending class size, of students who don't do anything for a semester or two while the school still gets paid. If they were to tip off the parents that their child is essentially setting their money on fire, the cash flow would slow down.
Get a student loan and finance your education yourself if you want to slack off without mommy and daddy finding out.
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If the parent is paying the bill, the parent is the "customer" for the school. They should be given basic information of what their money is paying for. Classes registered for and grades aren't too much to expect for paying many tens of thousands of dollars a year. I personally don't think the student gets an expectation of privacy over the basic stuff if they aren't pay the bills.
No, the one who is attending is the "customer" for the school. The agreement of payment is between the child and the parent. The reason why you should be adamant, and for sure you will finish the class, before registering is to not have to be paying for a class you failed, are struggling with, or just do not want to take anymore. There's drop-out periods where you can withdraw and not have to pay. Did the kid not know this? This is the type of stuff they explain during Orientation. It was explained to me when I had to attend a New Student Orientation (NSO) that was a requirement for me to complete before I can register for classes.
If a Parent is that concerned about losing out on money, couldn't you just make your child's payments for College like the government does, treating them as loans and instilling interest. Make the child have an inclination you have to pay them back. Make them responsible for their actions. The price to be paid for not completing college, is paying back the loan. If College was completed, I wouldn't even have them pay me back as a parent, my payback would be that diploma and their life beyond the schooling. Because if the parent is not paying for their college, than it'll be the Government and we all know how much these interest rates are for these loans, especially when you don't understand the difference between Subsidized and Unsubsidized Loans.
Look, I understand that parents want whats best. But also, it feels like some parents are not letting their children fly free, they're keeping a tiny tether on their feet like a kite, and want that control over their life decisions. In other words, they're not giving their own children the opportunity to be Adults. And being an Adult is being responsible and taking accountability for your own actions.
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I will go more with Ben. The parent isn't entitled to much, if anything, even if they are paying. I am saying that as a parent with 2 kids currently in college.
The school isn't providing a service, like cable TV, that anyone can sign up for. The student applied to get in, not the parent. The student got admitted to the school, not the parent. There is a cost to attend, but the school doesn't care who pays it. The student can pay themselves, they can finance it with loans, the parents can pay, the student can have scholarships. Hell, the government can pay, if they are on the GI Bill, or something equivalent.
The school doesn't really owe any of those entities any student info. I know that some scholarship have minimum grade requirements, but that is an agreement between the scholarship and the student to share their grades to verify they still qualify for the scholarship.
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Would you say that if your paying Gef, would you, and I don't want to use the work expect, but hope that there is good communication about how your child is doing at school.
I would think most parents just want to know, their child's health, mental health and how they are doing. And good parents have good communication with this.
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Would you say that if your paying Gef, would you, and I don't want to use the work expect, but hope that there is good communication about how your child is doing at school.
I would think most parents just want to know, their child's health, mental health and how they are doing. And good parents have good communication with this.
But as someone who IS paying, that's my job as a parent, to have enough of a working relationship with my kid to know those things, or be happy with what I don't know.
I'm really bristling at this notion that - without more explanation - seems to mean that it's the school's responsibility to do what the parent SHOULD have been doing all along.
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That's what I'm saying. If you have good communication, you'll get this info from the kids. All the other stuff you worry about is natural, but a part of growing. Mistakes will happen. It's how we all learned.
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No matter who is footing the bill, the school's obligation is to the student, not the parent.
I have clients whose parents are paying their therapy bills. I don't owe them a god damn thing unless my client requests it in writing.
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No matter who is footing the bill, the school's obligation is to the student, not the parent.
I have clients whose parents are paying their therapy bills. I don't owe them a god damn thing unless my client requests it in writing.
Same with lawyers. I don't know how it is in other states, but in California, if the lawyer knows a third-party is paying the bills, the lawyer is supposed to get a written conflict waiver signed, which will, among other things, put the third-party bill payer on notice that the lawyer owes no duties to him/her.
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Would you say that if your paying Gef, would you, and I don't want to use the work expect, but hope that there is good communication about how your child is doing at school.
I would think most parents just want to know, their child's health, mental health and how they are doing. And good parents have good communication with this.
But as someone who IS paying, that's my job as a parent, to have enough of a working relationship with my kid to know those things, or be happy with what I don't know.
I'm really bristling at this notion that - without more explanation - seems to mean that it's the school's responsibility to do what the parent SHOULD have been doing all along.
Yes. With us it'd last just one semester. As my wife says to my son, we are not paying for bad grades. :lol
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With us it'd last just one semester. As my wife says to my son, we are not paying for bad grades. :lol
This is the proper response, IMO. Adult children should pay natural consequences for their choices.
I've had one rule about finances and children that has served me well. Never provide funds to children that you, a) can't afford and/or b) expect to get back.
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FTR, the parents did check in with the son and often. Son said everything was great! No worries. Nothing to report. Doing well in his classes.
They opted to believe him and treat him like the adult they believed he was.
Let's not forget that our brains are not fully done developing until our mid-20s. The prefrontal cortex is the last bit to finish. This is the part where understanding consequences to one's actions lives (along with numerous other executive functioning skills).
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FTR, the parents did check in with the son and often. Son said everything was great! No worries. Nothing to report. Doing well in his classes.
They opted to believe him and treat him like the adult they believed he was.
Let's not forget that our brains are not fully done developing until our mid-20s. The prefrontal cortex is the last bit to finish. This is the part where understanding consequences to one's actions lives (along with numerous other executive functioning skills).
Yup. I stand by my earlier post. This isn't legally confidential medical info or anything, it's simply classes registered for and grades. Heck even just pass or fail is fine with me.
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Let's not forget that our brains are not fully done developing until our mid-20s. The prefrontal cortex is the last bit to finish. This is the part where understanding consequences to one's actions lives (along with numerous other executive functioning skills).
Absolutely. And let's also not forget that adults will often lose their freaking minds after having kids, setting them back to about the same level of dysfunction as their teenage kids. :lol
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Let's not forget that our brains are not fully done developing until our mid-20s. The prefrontal cortex is the last bit to finish. This is the part where understanding consequences to one's actions lives (along with numerous other executive functioning skills).
Absolutely. And let's also not forget that adults will often lose their freaking minds after having kids, setting them back to about the same level of dysfunction as their teenage kids. :lol
I can 100% confirm that!
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Would you say that if your paying Gef, would you, and I don't want to use the work expect, but hope that there is good communication about how your child is doing at school.
I would think most parents just want to know, their child's health, mental health and how they are doing. And good parents have good communication with this.
Who the fuck is Gef?
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Would you say that if your paying Gef, would you, and I don't want to use the work expect, but hope that there is good communication about how your child is doing at school.
I would think most parents just want to know, their child's health, mental health and how they are doing. And good parents have good communication with this.
Who the fuck is Gef?
I think that's Steve Jobs for "Hef". :) :) :)
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With us it'd last just one semester. As my wife says to my son, we are not paying for bad grades. :lol
This is the proper response, IMO. Adult children should pay natural consequences for their choices.
I had a pretty bad bout of depression my third semester away from home and got a bit too into the party scene after nearly two decades of being a bit socially awkward. It did a pretty good number on me, and it got to the point where I was so ashamed I couldn't even talk to my dad. I had to email him about it. I was pretty much failing everything and was completely off the rails, getting worse as I tried to get back in line.
I know everyone's situation is different, but I don't have a vast enough vocabulary to properly describe how beyond thankful I am that my mom and dad gave me more than one semester and didn't look at my situation as something that I needed to pay consequences for. Learn from, certainly, but not be punished or left to fend for myself and fail. If I was left "pay natural consequences" for my choices, I would probably be truly fucked in life. I legitimately needed help, and I'm really glad I had parents that were able to recognize that (not implying neither of you guys wouldn't).
It took a good year for my changes to start being reflected in my transcripts. I went from failing and being banned from one university, and a dean not wanting to accept me into another, to graduating in the top 5% of my class by the time all was said and done.
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Well, my point probably wasn't clear, but we wouldn't pull the rug out after one semester, but rather that "not knowing" wouldn't last for more than one semester.
The important thing is communication.
I legitimately needed help, and I'm really glad I had parents that were able to recognize that (not implying neither of you guys wouldn't).
Of course. We'd certainly be there if our child legitimately needed help.
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That's awesome, Brian.
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But I think that's part of the balance of being a parent. I have a similar-ish situation with my parents. I was high honors, graduated within shouting distance of the top of my class... then got 2.00's for the first two semesters of school. Similar thing, got into the partying more than I got into the academics. Didn't really pull myself out until late second year.
My mom and dad didn't pull the plug, but there was some tough love involved. It was clear there was no blank check involved (and at some point we switched to me paying a portion of the tuition; when I moved into an apartment, I was responsible for all the room and board).
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Natural consequences are situational, Brian. It could take the form of a parent saying, "Look, I'm not going to foot the bill for classes you aren't attending. Come back home for a year, and distance yourself from the party scene and we'll access where your at then."
I in no way condone parents abandoning their children--adult or no. I apologize if it sounded like I was.
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Natural consequences are situational, Brian. It could take the form of a parent saying, "Look, I'm not going to foot the bill for classes you aren't attending. Come back home for a year, and distance yourself from the party scene and we'll access where your at then."
I in no way condone parents abandoning their children--adult or no. I apologize if it sounded like I was.
Right. yes, that's what I was saying as well.
And when my wife says we're not paying for bad grades, it's really just setting an expectation that he needs to take college seriously. And if he can't, as Gregg says, we'll work together on a work around.
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Let's not forget that our brains are not fully done developing until our mid-20s. The prefrontal cortex is the last bit to finish. This is the part where understanding consequences to one's actions lives (along with numerous other executive functioning skills).
Absolutely. And let's also not forget that adults will often lose their freaking minds after having kids, setting them back to about the same level of dysfunction as their teenage kids. :lol
LoL - no argument. I'd wager some parents NEVER get to a fully functioning prefrontal cortex. There is some strong evidence that drug/alcohol abuse and trauma can stunt if not halt this development and the earlier the age when these things occur the more serious it can impact neurological functioning.
But to one of my favorite quotes from the movie Parenthood:
Helen: It sounds like a boy Garry's age needs a man around the house.
Todd: Well, it depends on the man. I had a man around. He used to wake me up every morning by flicking lit cigarettes at my head. He'd say, "Hey asshole, get up and make me breakfast." You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, or drive a car. Hell, you need a license to catch a fish! But they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father.
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I wasn't thinking that of either of you :tup
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I could just as easily have posted this in the "what made you happy today?" thread, since one of life's simplest pleasures is an attention-whoring douchebag facing 20 years in jail for being an attention-whoring douchebag, but I decided to put it here instead. Attention whores are exasperating.
Anyway: attention-whoring douchebag deliberately crashes his light aircraft for Youtube views and faces 20 years in jail for his efforts:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65567519
Here is the video of the jackass in action. There's gold to be found in the comments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbYszLNZxhM
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What a doofus.
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I could just as easily have posted this in the "what made you happy today?" thread, since one of life's simplest pleasures is an attention-whoring douchebag facing 20 years in jail for being an attention-whoring douchebag, but I decided to put it here instead. Attention whores are exasperating.
Anyway: attention-whoring douchebag deliberately crashes his light aircraft for Youtube views and faces 20 years in jail for his efforts:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65567519
Here is the video of the jackass in action. There's gold to be found in the comments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbYszLNZxhM
Yes there is.
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I could just as easily have posted this in the "what made you happy today?" thread, since one of life's simplest pleasures is an attention-whoring douchebag facing 20 years in jail for being an attention-whoring douchebag, but I decided to put it here instead. Attention whores are exasperating.
Anyway: attention-whoring douchebag deliberately crashes his light aircraft for Youtube views and faces 20 years in jail for his efforts:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65567519
Here is the video of the jackass in action. There's gold to be found in the comments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbYszLNZxhM
Hope he gets the book thrown at him. Endangering lives like that for views is repulsive.
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Saw the footage on FB. I said, "yeah, you're busted." :loser:
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So, tries to make it look like an accident yet the whole thing is filmed? What a bright lad.
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Fuckin' genius!! :lol
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Was he granted bail or was he considered a flight risk?
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Referring to Subway employees as "Sandwich Artists."
Was he granted bail or was he considered a flight risk?
:biggrin:
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Was he granted bail or was he considered a flight risk?
Genius.
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So, maybe I should wait a day, but in concert with the "Happy" thread, I have exasperating as well. People. Parents. Families. My god, there are a LOT of people who apparently feel they are the only riders on this spaceship planet earth.
They had a special ceremony for my daughters college (a "college" is one school - the school of Engineering, say - and a "university" is comprised of several colleges) after the All-University ceremony, and this one was more personal. The Dean spoke at length, kindly and eloquently, about each of the 22 students in her college. Wonderful and I had tears.
Until Spieberg in front of me decided to hold up her phone and try to capture the whole thing. Think of that symbol on the Van Halen OU812 album. If you want to film, get up and move to the side. The upshot is, she didn't really know how to do what she was trying to do and spent a good portion of the time fiddling with her phone. So I'm rocking back and forth like Ray Charles trying to look around her bony fingers trying to find the "record" button. Woman behind me apparently doesn't know what a "Silence" button is, or how to turn her volume down. There were texts or messages throughout the 90-minute assembly. I'll give you one, everyone forgets, maybe two, who knows, but we counted FIVE interruptions from messages. To this moment I don't know if she ever turned it off (and if it's an emergency, or she's a doctor, get headphones. Not that hard, I've done it before.)
And finally, and I expect to take some shit for this one, but the now-obligatory "barking" and "wooing" when your kid goes up. To me, that's just yet another sign of our insecurity and need for validation. I did not "woo" when Stadlerette was called; I told her in advance that I was incredibly proud of her and loved her, and we joked about it (she actually said "please don't"). I told her again after. To her face, directly, not via "woo". She doesn't need any "wooing" to know how special she is, and I don't have to publicize and declare my love to a group of strangers to affirm what a great and fantastic dad I am.
Old man rant over. :) :) :) :) For the record, this is picking nits and venting; the last two or three days have been wonderful, fun, rewarding, and incredibly relaxing.
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They had a special ceremony for my daughters college (a "college" is one school - the school of Engineering, say - and a "university" is comprised of several colleges) after the All-University ceremony, and this one was more personal. The Dead spoke at length, kindly and eloquently, about each of the 22 students in her college. Wonderful and I had tears.
I so want this not to be a typo...and hope that you have video. :lol
And yeah...a-holes taking video and blocking your view is the worst. Someone was doing that when I saw The Warning last week. Fortunately, he only did it about three times for a minute each, so I let it slide.
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They had a special ceremony for my daughters college (a "college" is one school - the school of Engineering, say - and a "university" is comprised of several colleges) after the All-University ceremony, and this one was more personal. The Dead spoke at length, kindly and eloquently, about each of the 22 students in her college. Wonderful and I had tears.
I so want this not to be a typo...and hope that you have video. :lol
And yeah...a-holes taking video and blocking your view is the worst. Someone was doing that when I saw The Warning last week. Fortunately, he only did it about three times for a minute each, so I let it slide.
No, The Dead. It was a seance. Candles and everything. HAHA.
No, I meant "Dean".
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Totally agree with your exasperation with adults at kid-centered activities.
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Accidentally ran over a squirrel when making a quick run to the store just a bit ago.
Stupid thing ran in front of my car when I was about 30 feet from its spot, and I didn't slow down because they are quick and always get out of the way. This one did not. I could feel the thump.
Stupid thing should have moved. That's exasperating.
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Working on a project today using a YouTube tutorial, and every 10 minutes or so I get the same damn unskippable Jack Daniels ad with a horrible cover of Joan Jett’s Bad Reputation.
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I bought a new pair of jeans online a while back. They sat around in the package for a while before I opened them a couple weeks ago. They're not 501s (or Levi's at all), but they're button-fly. I'm sure the description on the listing clearly said this, so it's on me for not noticing, but seriously? Why would anyone make button fly jeans for guys anymore? They're silly inconvenient.
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Decided to put a mobile order in for Dunkin while on the way to work this morning. Medium ice coffee and 3 orders of the 3 piece donut holes (9 total because I'm a fatty). I run in to grab my order and there's only 3 in the bag. I very politely mention it to the chick behind the counter and she got super annoyed. Treated me as if I was going Karen on her over it.
All I said was "oh, this is supposed to be 9 total. 3x 3pc"
Small mistake. I get it. Not a big deal. But to act like I went off on her is a bit much.
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I bought a new pair of jeans online a while back. They sat around in the package for a while before I opened them a couple weeks ago. They're not 501s (or Levi's at all), but they're button-fly. I'm sure the description on the listing clearly said this, so it's on me for not noticing, but seriously? Why would anyone make button fly jeans for guys anymore? They're silly inconvenient.
Can't find a clip but from Seinfeld: "I like the button fly. That is one place on my wardrobe I do not need sharp interlocking metal teeth."
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Not really exasperated by this because it wasn't anyone's fault really, more just an odd experience that happened to me today.
Went to pick up some things from the grocery store (Kroger, not some mom and pop chain) to get through the weekend. I knew that there was weather coming through, but didn't think it was anything serious. Anyway, I kind of dragged my feet getting there, and just as I'm about to head home I hear rain on the roof and realize I missed my window to get out before the rain. So I start kind of slowly walking through the store since I didn't want to leave right then with it pouring down rain. A few minutes later, the power goes out, then quickly comes back on. "Man, I guess I better get home" I think, and then a few seconds later, out they go again. Pitch black because I'm in the back of the store away from any windows. I hear someone talking about the generator, and I figure the lights will come back any minute once that kicks in. I basically stayed right where I was, since I had my phone for light and that was about it. Try to text my wife that the power is out, and I have zero service. Try to call, same deal. Turns out we had gotten slammed by a major thunderstorm and half the town is out of power. Eventually someone tells me they are trying to get all the customers to the front of the store. People are just milling about, it's very quite because I guess we're all antisocial and on our phones. Lots of people are kind of near the checkout, and I decide I might as well get in line and hope for the best.
Time goes by and nobody from the store is saying anything. No generator is coming on, and I finally overhear a manager on the phone saying he's got no power and the generator is out too. Rather than make any sort of announcement, they just keep saying people can leave if they want, or they can wait. So I waited maybe 45 minutes to an hour, because I've got a cart full of stuff and don't want to have to come back later. As time goes on I notice that most people had left (it was dark and not easy to see - I found it odd that there were no emergency lights of any sort). Finally I go over to the deli area where there are some seats to get off my feet, and the deli staff are all like "yeah, this isn't getting fixed today." So I finally decided to leave, sans groceries.
Stuff happens, and as it turns out this was the worst thing that happened to me because of the storm. There were trees down all over my neighborhood, but our house was relatively unscathed, so I really have nothing to complain about. Still, it seemed like there was no real protocol at the store in terms of telling customers what to do or expect, or how long things might take. Just seemed oddly handled.
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The emergency lights would be tied to the generator so if the generator is out, then so are the em lights.
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The emergency lights would be tied to the generator so if the generator is out, then so are the em lights.
Makes sense, I just thought there could have been some sort of battery operated lighting that would kick in to keep it from being pitch dark. The staff didn’t even seem to have flashlights to use. Just kind of seemed totally unprepared for something like this (and the deli lady I talked to said it’s not the first time she’s been through it at the store).
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At the local grocery store near me there's a decent salad bar that makes for a cheapish lunch so I go to it quite frequently. Today I, along with several other customers, experienced something that has become more common at this place: someone with absolutely no salad bar/buffet/etc. etiquette.
This one woman who was clearly on her own planet was very slowly shuffling down the bar filling not one but two giant salads, stopping frequently to make a decision what to add and picking through some of the trays. It probably took her about 5 minutes to go down a barely 20' long salad bar and in that time we backed up behind her about 10 deep. I think a few people were thinking of going around her but she had her cart in front of her and was taking up a lot of room. Total obliviousness drives me up the wall and I see it more than ever in grocery stores but I was almost impressed by how much this woman seemingly did not give a shit how much she was backing everything up.
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We have lawn service (and had it at our old house). Both here and the old place, without fail, they come up to my child's window during their nap every week that they come. They don't come near in the morning or toward the end.
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So I am interested in work culture and workers in general.
I saw this article tonight:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careers/gen-z-and-millennial-workers-feel-confused-irritated-and-left-out-by-endless-workplace-jargon-in-the-office-linkedin-research-shows/ar-AA1cu3tT?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=fc66b39d06324d23927d484a68d11935&ei=9
WTF?? Why is this a problem? Every employee has to learn the culture or God forbid...jargon. What a load of shit. If you apply yourself to your job, it'll start to make sense. This is what happens when you join a company. Sounds like they don't want to put in the work. More victimhood. Or at least that's my old man view on it.
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We had a co-worker years ago who went crying to the boss (in tears, literally) because someone used the expression "we don't want to get caught napping" in an email to her, and she thought they were implying she was going to literally fall asleep on the job. You can't make this stuff up. :lol :lol :lol
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Oh ffs. Like Gen Z and millennials don’t have 5s or own secret language and jargon that confuses the fuck out of us fogeys.
Oi vey!!
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Seems like the young ones make literally anything a problem these days.
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A simple thing that can be done that nobody does anymore is, scroll on by. Social media has allowed people to act out what they don't like.
Just scroll on by. It makes life so much better.
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Oh ffs. Like Gen Z and millennials don’t have 5s or own secret language and jargon that confuses the fuck out of us fogeys.
Oi vey!!
This is the first thing I thought of.
I never had any issues with work language or phrases, it was one of those things that I already knew, and if it was something I didn't know, it wasn't hard to figure out or ask for clarification. I'm in the millennial group (right in the middle), but have always been referred to as an old soul, so maybe I'm just different :dunno:
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So I am interested in work culture and workers in general.
I saw this article tonight:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careers/gen-z-and-millennial-workers-feel-confused-irritated-and-left-out-by-endless-workplace-jargon-in-the-office-linkedin-research-shows/ar-AA1cu3tT?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=fc66b39d06324d23927d484a68d11935&ei=9
WTF?? Why is this a problem? Every employee has to learn the culture or God forbid...jargon. What a load of shit. If you apply yourself to your job, it'll start to make sense. This is what happens when you join a company. Sounds like they don't want to put in the work. More victimhood. Or at least that's my old man view on it.
Saw this too. Just learn the jargon and don't feel ashamed to ask if you don't understand what something means. We all learned it at some point. Problem solved.
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Not just my job, but my entire field is FILLED with acronyms. Tons. I suck at them. I know a few but can't remember 80% of them at least.
So, I ask. If someone uses whatever, I just ask what they mean. Someone tells me. I say oh okay cool, thanks. Then it's done.
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Sorry, I have ZERO sympathy for this line of reasoning. Yet another example of the mass insecurity ("I feel left out!!") that is crippling our society. When I went to GE - around 1998 - I went from a small(er) family run environmental construction company to what was at the time one of the largest conglomerates in the world. I was over my head, over-whelmed, and, yes, probably a little scared. It was MY RESPONSIBILITY to sink or swim. I went - on my time - and learned the lingo (there were "acronym guides" that were 15 or 20 pages long) and figured it out. Found someone I could trust and asked questions. In my ten or so years at GE I was rated an A player every year but one (no small feat).
This, my friends, is called "initiative". Is that part of the jargon they don't know? ;)
(And I'm sorry, but I don't buy into the whining to LinkedIn, either. If you have a beef with your company, or see an avenue for improvement, why not elevate it? Call HR; you can do that anonymously in most companies; tell them that the communication is a barrier to success. FIX IT. Again, initiative, instead of whining to social media as if that's the magic answer.)
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Speaking of ridiculous stories...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/06/13/man-fakes-death-and-turns-up-at-funeral-in-helicopter-to-prank-family-18946416/
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My first job out of college at a big bank and it felt like every 4 words when talking to anyone about work was an acronym that I didn't know. It was very intimidating coming right of college and was not expecting the business to use sooooo many acrynoms like that. So I complained to my boss.... jk I sucked it up and learned what I could and continued to do my best and ask questions when I needed to know. It's called learning and adapting. And fun part, once you understand it, you also realize why people use them because it's ridiculous to spell it all out constantly! The bad part though, you change jobs and it's a whole new set of acronyms to learn, but such is life. At least I was expecting it at my next job at that point and it was no longer intimidating or shocking.
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So I am interested in work culture and workers in general.
I saw this article tonight:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careers/gen-z-and-millennial-workers-feel-confused-irritated-and-left-out-by-endless-workplace-jargon-in-the-office-linkedin-research-shows/ar-AA1cu3tT?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=fc66b39d06324d23927d484a68d11935&ei=9
WTF?? Why is this a problem? Every employee has to learn the culture or God forbid...jargon. What a load of shit. If you apply yourself to your job, it'll start to make sense. This is what happens when you join a company. Sounds like they don't want to put in the work. More victimhood. Or at least that's my old man view on it.
The weird thing is that most of those examples in the article, I wouldn't even characterize as "workplace jargon." Those are just phrases in the English language.
Level up, motherfuckers. Read a book or something.
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The last line of that article makes a good point:
"Managers at Deloitte and PWC told the Financial Times in May that pandemic graduates who studied virtually were struggling with teamwork, communication, and collaboration and needed extra training as a result."
I've been in the corporate game for over a decade now and I didn't know half of the phrases that article chose to highlight. Kids fresh out of college have got to be all kinds of behind initially.
Also, what was the point of that article? It bitched about young kids a bit, saying that they come into the workplace behind and feeling overwhelmed, and that was it. Nothing about the youngins not adapting and getting fired for it. Nothing about young kids not wanting to put in the work and quitting instead. Nothing about managers complaining that they can't find anyone with initiative. Acronyms weren't even mentioned and somehow became a focal point here. Basically that whole article could have been summed up with three sentences - "New entrants into the work place find themselves behind when it comes to corporate phrases and jargon they've never heard. They sometimes get confused and have to put on a front while they navigate their new terrain. They sometimes feel as though they're at a disadvantage when compared to their coworkers.". That was it. This author went out of their way to write an unnecessarily long and repeating piece, about nothing, for the sole purpose of attracting boomers ( :heart) to the comment sections to voice their complaints about the next generation. That's what I think anyway.
"Over half of young professionals have looked up a word in a meeting to understand the conversation whilst 83% have used a word they didn't really understand in a professional situation to keep up appearances.
That sounds really close to to Marc's
"I sucked it up and learned what I could and continued to do my best and ask questions when I needed to know. It's called learning and adapting."
and Bill's
"I was over my head, over-whelmed, and, yes, probably a little scared. It was MY RESPONSIBILITY to sink or swim. I went - on my time - and learned the lingo (there were "acronym guides" that were 15 or 20 pages long) and figured it out."
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Well, Brian, as one of those "boomers" who commented, a couple things:
- I mentioned acronyms, only because that was my experience; that was the jargon I had to learn. The first time I heard Ebitda said out loud I didn't know it WAS an acronym, and I figured it out;
- I guess I'm guilty of assuming here; I wouldn't know what the point of an article like that would be if it WASN'T complaining or making excuses. I mean, maybe THAT'S the old man complaint I should be making, but I wouldn't give a second thought to writing on LinkedIn how confused I was; I would take that time to NOT BE CONFUSED.
I am more lenient to the generational "these kids" arguments than most are, I think. I had a dad that was very old school, but very technically savvy. So I kind of saw first hand how someone transitions from slide rules - yes, literal slide rules - to hand held calculators to computers. And I saw the limits of what he could grasp. He got all that, but for some reason, the internet tripped him up. It's a fundamentally different way of thinking at that point. I'm seeing this now with me and my kid. I had calculators, then computers, now the virtual world. My kid knows calculators - but not as cutting edge technology, but rather like you would look at a ruler or a compass. A basic, limited tool. But her world is computers and virtual processing. I'm sort of at the edge of things I comprehend. Block chain... I think I get it, but it's a whole different way of thinking.
I think that up until recently, with all the technology we've experienced: steam engines to air travel to JET air travel to space to computers to cell phones... the constant was interpersonal communication and the ability to interact with each other. We are - and this isn't "old man", this is objective fact, losing that skill. I am an attorney; I have clients that I have to interact with. I have ALWAYS had the job that was not sitting in a chair all day. I would go to the MD's office and discuss. I'd go to the finance directors office and discuss. I'd go to the sales teams' office and discuss. I'd go to the contract managers office and discuss....all using ancillary skills I really picked up and honed in college and in my first couple jobs. Reading the room, learning how to fill gaps in MY knowledge so that no one else could see they WERE gaps. Since COVID - since virtual - I can LITERALLY go an entire week without interacting with a single human being in real time that is not my wife or kid. I HAVE those skills and I can feel them atrophying. I can't even imagine never having had them and having to figure that shit out.
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So I am interested in work culture and workers in general.
I saw this article tonight:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careers/gen-z-and-millennial-workers-feel-confused-irritated-and-left-out-by-endless-workplace-jargon-in-the-office-linkedin-research-shows/ar-AA1cu3tT?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=fc66b39d06324d23927d484a68d11935&ei=9
WTF?? Why is this a problem? Every employee has to learn the culture or God forbid...jargon. What a load of shit. If you apply yourself to your job, it'll start to make sense. This is what happens when you join a company. Sounds like they don't want to put in the work. More victimhood. Or at least that's my old man view on it.
So..."ducks in a row" and "low hanging fruit" are "workplace jargon"?? The other one I saw in the portion of the article I read was "blue sky thinking," and 55-year old me has no idea what that means. Would they feel more comfortable if someone said, "you know, I really stan our competitor, so let's ship our company and theirs!" (I HATE that I understand what that means).
You know what the solution is...ASK. In 1988, while I was in the midst of changing majors a bunch of times, my lawyer sister got me a job as a file clerk with the firm she was leaving. I had long hair and was working my first ever office job for bosses, some of whom weren't keen on guys with long hair. I would briefly read some of the papers I was filing, and I started asking questions of the lawyers in the office. I can vividly recall asking one of the attorneys what a "demurrer" was. He took 5 minutes to explain it in a way that made sense, and that learning experience had a HUGE role in me eventually deciding to go to law school. Today, I'm a VP with my company, and one of my jobs is to support the department that generates business. We have a trainee program and, not surprisingly, it's filled with younger millennials and zoomers (gen Z). We took a couple of them out for drinks a couple weeks ago. They weren't afraid to ask questions, and folks on my level are more than happy to help them learn and fit in. It's just not that hard.
Also, what was the point of that article? It bitched about young kids a bit, saying that they come into the workplace behind and feeling overwhelmed, and that was it. Nothing about the youngins not adapting and getting fired for it. Nothing about young kids not wanting to put in the work and quitting instead. Nothing about managers complaining that they can't find anyone with initiative. Acronyms weren't even mentioned and somehow became a focal point here. Basically that whole article could have been summed up with three sentences - "New entrants into the work place find themselves behind when it comes to corporate phrases and jargon they've never heard. They sometimes get confused and have to put on a front while they navigate their new terrain. They sometimes feel as though they're at a disadvantage when compared to their coworkers.". That was it. This author went out of their way to write an unnecessarily long and repeating piece, about nothing, for the sole purpose of attracting boomers ( :heart) to the comment sections to voice their complaints about the next generation. That's what I think anyway.
My rant above notwithstanding, you summed it up perfectly. Sadly, such is the state of "journalism" in the 2020s.
P.S. to Bill: we're Gen X, not Boomers.
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I think that up until recently, with all the technology we've experienced: steam engines to air travel to JET air travel to space to computers to cell phones... the constant was interpersonal communication and the ability to interact with each other. We are - and this isn't "old man", this is objective fact, losing that skill. I am an attorney; I have clients that I have to interact with. I have ALWAYS had the job that was not sitting in a chair all day. I would go to the MD's office and discuss. I'd go to the finance directors office and discuss. I'd go to the sales teams' office and discuss. I'd go to the contract managers office and discuss....all using ancillary skills I really picked up and honed in college and in my first couple jobs. Reading the room, learning how to fill gaps in MY knowledge so that no one else could see they WERE gaps. Since COVID - since virtual - I can LITERALLY go an entire week without interacting with a single human being in real time that is not my wife or kid. I HAVE those skills and I can feel them atrophying. I can't even imagine never having had them and having to figure that shit out.
Firstly, I hope you and everyone else here doesn't feel like I was taking a legitimate shot at the boomers. Millennials were called out and I felt the need to defend my tribe :lol
Your spot fucking on with your last paragraph though, and it's evident everywhere.
I've mentioned here before how I have a job in a kitchen doing catering on Sunday. We have an army of 16-20 year olds that run the counters, registers, etc.... It's so weird interacting with them, and it's not just the generational divide. I get along with older generations just fine, and when I was their age doing what they're doing now, I got along with people my age just fine. I could blend no matter the situation (within reason). These kids today are just... off. They're smart. They can interact with the public for the most part, but there is something definitely off. It's almost like they don't pick up and express emotions in the same way or something. It's like a bunch of Sheldon Coopers running around, but it's more sad and eerie than anything. I also find that a lot of them, at least the ones I work with, struggle to talk about anything beyond a few sentences or two unless it's something they're super passionate about.
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This author went out of their way to write an unnecessarily long and repeating piece, about nothing, for the sole purpose of attracting boomers ( :heart) to the comment sections to voice their complaints about the next generation. That's what I think anyway.
Well, it worked. ;D
Seriously, work habits and work culture is an interest of mine, so I do click on these types of things. I try and take everything in totality as much as I can. I've literally been working for 40 years. I just find it interesting.
.... but there is something definitely off.
I also believe that each generation says this about the next one.
I'm fascinated by the huge shift in labor.
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You know what the solution is...ASK.
I sat here for a good 15 seconds trying to figure out what ASK was an acronym for.
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You know what the solution is...ASK.
I sat here for a good 15 seconds trying to figure out what ASK was an acronym for.
Approach Someone (who) Knows
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You know what the solution is...ASK.
I sat here for a good 15 seconds trying to figure out what ASK was an acronym for.
Lazy millennial.
:) :)
(I don't actually know how old you are; I can sort of guess from other posts, but... I'm 100% kidding.)
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The workplace Jargon report the article refers to is here:
https://news.linkedin.com/2023/june/state-of-workplace-jargon-report-2023
Professionals feel jargon is being used too much in the workplace with the youngest generations feeling this way the most. 60% of Gen Z and 65% of millennials want to reduce or eliminate the use of workplace jargon, compared to 50% of Gen X and 23% of baby boomers.
Millennials are the generation using workplace jargon the most, with 25% saying they are so used to jargon at work that they barely realize they are using it.
It should be noted that the oldest members of Gen X are rapidly approaching 60.
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The texting generation really. Everything is shorthand with texting. BRB.
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I think it's worth keeping in mind what a millennial is. While the dates aren't set in stone, it's roughly people born between 1981-96. Elder millennials are in their early 40s, while the younger end of the group is in their late 20s.
It's curious that the same generation who is "using workplace jargon the most," with a solid chunk saying "they barely realize they are using it" is also most vocal about feeling that jargon is overused.
Compared to the MSN article, the LinkedIn summary is pretty neutral. "Professionals feel jargon is being used too much in the workplace" has been a complaint as long as I've been in the world of a "real" job, and "professionals say[ing] [that] overuse of jargon can complicate communication and sabotage productivity" is unquestionably true. Again, typical of "journalism" in the 2020s.
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The texting generation really. Everything is shorthand with texting. BRB.
OMG - I thought this too until just last week I heard an interview on NPR about Prince. IIRC, he would've turned 65 last week?
Anyway the commenter was saying everybody thinks texting was the beginning of these acronyms but it was actually Prince who ushered it into the lexicon.
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I think it's worth keeping in mind what a millennial is. While the dates aren't set in stone, it's roughly people born between 1981-96. Elder millennials are in their early 40s, while the younger end of the group is in their late 20s.
It's curious that the same generation who is "using workplace jargon the most," with a solid chunk saying "they barely realize they are using it" is also most vocal about feeling that jargon is overused.
Compared to the MSN article, the LinkedIn summary is pretty neutral. "Professionals feel jargon is being used too much in the workplace" has been a complaint as long as I've been in the world of a "real" job, and "professionals say[ing] [that] overuse of jargon can complicate communication and sabotage productivity" is unquestionably true. Again, typical of "journalism" in the 2020s.
Look, I went to business school at the height of the dot.com boom. I have a Master's degree in "Jargon". :). But I am absolutely one of those people that shakes their head at the over-use of jargon in the work place. It's a focus on style over substance, and I'd rather put my efforts into the work at hand.
Having said that, I am not taking a bullet in the effort of being a change agent in that workplace. The last thing we need is a deep dive into the low hanging fruit of the jihad that is American business environment. :) If my boss is calling our work effort a "jihad", well, I'm probably not going to use that phrase, but I'm not pushing back on it either. If my boss calls for a "deep dive" into the mechanics of the marketing effort, my slides (a jargon in and of itself) is going to be titled "Marketing Effort Deep Dive".
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I always find it interesting how certain words start being used out of nowhere and which ones stick around. I went a good eight years in this company without ever hearing a single person use the word "opine". I had to google it the first time I heard it. I hear it in at least one meeting a day now.
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I always find it interesting how certain words start being used out of nowhere and which ones stick around. I went a good eight years in this company without ever hearing a single person use the word "opine". I had to google it the first time I heard it. I hear it in at least one meeting a day now.
This is true! TAC said he's a student of the workplace, I'm a student of that. You see that in media as well. "Terrifying" is dying out a little, but that's been the buzzword for a while. Everything we don't like is "terrifying". Please.
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I'm a millennial, so I find it quite hilarious reading this talk about Jargon when me and my friends during High School made up our own Jargon for certain things, most of them terms for such things as Boobs, Ass, Weed, Money, as our own secret code words to talk openly about.
When I hear work Jargon, I find myself just making fun of the Jargon word, while I do understand what it means. I always say the jargon term with quotes.
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You know what the solution is...ASK.
I sat here for a good 15 seconds trying to figure out what ASK was an acronym for.
Lazy millennial.
Correct!
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I'm a millennial and honestly it was a little tough to switch in my corporate banking job. I ran a hotel on the beach for most of twenties where I wore flip flops to work 90% of the time so when I got a job at an investment bank it was crazy listening to the jargon. It took a while but slowly I became acclimated to it and now even I catch myself using it :lol. 25 year old Karolis would be shocked at how 35 year old Karolis speaks at work.
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Same, I am mostly a completely different person than 10 years ago, mostly at work but also outside of work.
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Major first world problems here...
I miss Chick Fil-A pre-pandemic. It used to be that the one near work, they had four registers always open inside during the lunch rush, and as someone who goes inside 99% of the time (vs drive thru), I could get in and out in less than five minutes. Now, it's just two registers and it took me nearly 20 minutes of standing in line just to get to the front and get my grilled chicken nuggets. How exasperating. :P :biggrin:
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Major first world problems here...
I miss Chick Fil-A pre-pandemic. It used to be that the one near work, they had four registers always open inside during the lunch rush, and as someone who goes inside 99% of the time (vs drive thru), I could get in and out in less than five minutes. Now, it's just two registers and it took me nearly 20 minutes of standing in line just to get to the front and get my grilled chicken nuggets. How exasperating. :P :biggrin:
I find it mildly exasperating that you'd wait 20 minutes for mediocre chicken, but TASTE, amirite? ;)
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Major first world problems here...
I miss Chick Fil-A pre-pandemic. It used to be that the one near work, they had four registers always open inside during the lunch rush, and as someone who goes inside 99% of the time (vs drive thru), I could get in and out in less than five minutes. Now, it's just two registers and it took me nearly 20 minutes of standing in line just to get to the front and get my grilled chicken nuggets. How exasperating. :P :biggrin:
I find it mildly exasperating that you'd wait 20 minutes for mediocre chicken, but TASTE, amirite? ;)
And grilled chicken, at that! :lol
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:lol The point is he didn't want to wait 20 minutes. Probably got stuck once and now is bitching because he doesn't want to go through that again.
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:lol The point is he didn't want to wait 20 minutes. Probably got stuck once and now is bitching because he doesn't want to go through that again.
I felt he was birching, but that's just me.
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He'd get his sandwich quicker if he was birching.
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I always get grilled chicken at CFA! I eat enough bad stuff already, and besides, fried chicken would rip through me like shit through a goose. :lol :lol :eek :eek
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Ah, old age, baby. So much fun.
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I always get grilled chicken at CFA! I eat enough bad stuff already, and besides, fried chicken would rip through me like shit through a goose. :lol :lol :eek :eek
One of my dad's favorite expressions. Haven't heard that in a long time. :) :)
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This kinda makes me want to go to CFA and get some nuggets!
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Going to Chick Fill-A and getting grilled chicken is like going to McDonald's and getting the fillet-o-fish.
If you're not prepared to shit like a goose, then, you really don't belong at a CFA.
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Going to Chick Fill-A and getting grilled chicken is like going to McDonald's and getting the fillet-o-fish.
If you're not prepared to shit like a goose, then, you really don't belong at a CFA.
Um, it shouldn't surprise anyone that I LOVE the Filet-o-Fish at McDonald's.
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Going to Chick Fill-A and getting grilled chicken is like going to McDonald's and getting the fillet-o-fish.
If you're not prepared to shit like a goose, then, you really don't belong at a CFA.
Um, it shouldn't surprise anyone that I LOVE the Filet-o-Fish at McDonald's.
I get the analogy, and I don't get the filet o fish personally, but I understand the people who do fucking love it. And having said that, I actually really like the CFA grilled chicken sandwich. I usually get that over their standard fried chicken sandwich.
Also, CFA does not give me the runs. It's actually relatively* healthy for fast food and I never heard of it giving the shits ala chipotle or taco bell.
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Going to Chick Fill-A and getting grilled chicken is like going to McDonald's and getting the fillet-o-fish.
If you're not prepared to shit like a goose, then, you really don't belong at a CFA.
Um, it shouldn't surprise anyone that I LOVE the Filet-o-Fish at McDonald's.
Same. Filet-o-Fish rules.
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I always get grilled chicken at CFA! I eat enough bad stuff already, and besides, fried chicken would rip through me like shit through a goose. :lol :lol :eek :eek
One of my dad's favorite expressions. Haven't heard that in a long time. :) :)
:tup :tup
Going to Chick Fill-A and getting grilled chicken is like going to McDonald's and getting the fillet-o-fish.
If you're not prepared to shit like a goose, then, you really don't belong at a CFA.
Um, it shouldn't surprise anyone that I LOVE the Filet-o-Fish at McDonald's.
I get the analogy, and I don't get the filet o fish personally, but I understand the people who do fucking love it. And having said that, I actually really like the CFA grilled chicken sandwich. I usually get that over their standard fried chicken sandwich.
Also, CFA does not give me the runs. It's actually relatively* healthy for fast food and I never heard of it giving the shits ala chipotle or taco bell.
The real issue is that if I get the fried chicken, then I am getting the waffle fries as well, so I get the double whammy of fried stuff. Odds are that I'd be okay, but I ain't chancing it. :lol :lol
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Speaking of CFA the company that is rebuilding/renovating all of the service areas along the entire length of the New York State Thruway decided to bring CFA in as an anchor tenant. I get the idea to upgrade from the Burger Kings, etc. but why the hell would you pick a chain that is famously closed on Sunday, a major travel day of the week, for your highway rest areas?
I stopped in one of the new ones this last week and not only is it insanely cramped but there's little to no seating, you have to basically cut through the food lines to get to the bathrooms, and the prices of food and drink are even crazier than you would expect from service areas. I bank on a 10-20% markup from independent locations but the prices on the Popeyes menu and even in the convenient store part are at least a 50-75% markup. Once I saw just a basic Popeyes chicken sandwich meal would cost around $16-17 I ended up overpaying for a 4oz bag of peanuts just to get some kind of snack. I found the same bag in a grocery the store the next day for exactly 1/4 of the price.
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Yeah, I'm with you. It doesn't make sense to put them on rest stops if they are going to be closed on Sundays.
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Speaking of CFA the company that is rebuilding/renovating all of the service areas along the entire length of the New York State Thruway decided to bring CFA in as an anchor tenant. I get the idea to upgrade from the Burger Kings, etc. but why the hell would you pick a chain that is famously closed on Sunday, a major travel day of the week, for your highway rest areas?
I stopped in one of the new ones this last week and not only is it insanely cramped but there's little to no seating, you have to basically cut through the food lines to get to the bathrooms, and the prices of food and drink are even crazier than you would expect from service areas. I bank on a 10-20% markup from independent locations but the prices on the Popeyes menu and even in the convenient store part are at least a 50-75% markup. Once I saw just a basic Popeyes chicken sandwich meal would cost around $16-17 I ended up overpaying for a 4oz bag of peanuts just to get some kind of snack. I found the same bag in a grocery the store the next day for exactly 1/4 of the price.
I actually got CFA at one of these stops yesterday on my way back from Niagara Falls! I thought the exact same thing you did. The choices were Shake Shack or CFA.
It was only my second time getting CFA, and I have to say, it was pretty crappy. I'm assuming it was because it was a rest stop location. I can't imagine that place being as popular as it is otherwise.. We split a 30 piece nugget and 2 fries and it came out to $34.
Madness.
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I actually got CFA at one of these stops yesterday on my way back from Niagara Falls! I thought the exact same thing you did. The choices were Shake Shack or CFA.
It was only my second time getting CFA, and I have to say, it was pretty crappy. I'm assuming it was because it was a rest stop location. I can't imagine that place being as popular as it is otherwise.. We split a 30 piece nugget and 2 fries and it came out to $34.
Madness.
That's when you take really small bites so at least maybe you feel like you are getting your money's worth...maybe.
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Speaking of CFA the company that is rebuilding/renovating all of the service areas along the entire length of the New York State Thruway decided to bring CFA in as an anchor tenant. I get the idea to upgrade from the Burger Kings, etc. but why the hell would you pick a chain that is famously closed on Sunday, a major travel day of the week, for your highway rest areas?
I stopped in one of the new ones this last week and not only is it insanely cramped but there's little to no seating, you have to basically cut through the food lines to get to the bathrooms, and the prices of food and drink are even crazier than you would expect from service areas. I bank on a 10-20% markup from independent locations but the prices on the Popeyes menu and even in the convenient store part are at least a 50-75% markup. Once I saw just a basic Popeyes chicken sandwich meal would cost around $16-17 I ended up overpaying for a 4oz bag of peanuts just to get some kind of snack. I found the same bag in a grocery the store the next day for exactly 1/4 of the price.
I actually got CFA at one of these stops yesterday on my way back from Niagara Falls! I thought the exact same thing you did. The choices were Shake Shack or CFA.
It was only my second time getting CFA, and I have to say, it was pretty crappy. I'm assuming it was because it was a rest stop location. I can't imagine that place being as popular as it is otherwise.. We split a 30 piece nugget and 2 fries and it came out to $34.
Madness.
OOC I put that order into my app as if I was buying it at my local CFA where I go to often for lunch at work. (I assumed large fries here) Came out to $25 so yeah, thats quite a bit upcharge for that location.
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I actually got CFA at one of these stops yesterday on my way back from Niagara Falls! I thought the exact same thing you did. The choices were Shake Shack or CFA.
It was only my second time getting CFA, and I have to say, it was pretty crappy. I'm assuming it was because it was a rest stop location. I can't imagine that place being as popular as it is otherwise.. We split a 30 piece nugget and 2 fries and it came out to $34.
Madness.
That's when you take really small bites so at least maybe you feel like you are getting your money's worth...maybe.
Or get off the turnpike and eat a real meal, maybe. I'll go pretty far out of my way to avoid getting ripped off for crappy food. :dunno:
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I actually got CFA at one of these stops yesterday on my way back from Niagara Falls! I thought the exact same thing you did. The choices were Shake Shack or CFA.
It was only my second time getting CFA, and I have to say, it was pretty crappy. I'm assuming it was because it was a rest stop location. I can't imagine that place being as popular as it is otherwise.. We split a 30 piece nugget and 2 fries and it came out to $34.
Madness.
That's when you take really small bites so at least maybe you feel like you are getting your money's worth...maybe.
Or get off the turnpike and eat a real meal, maybe. I'll go pretty far out of my way to avoid getting ripped off for crappy food. :dunno:
We had already been in the car for seven hours and I had to get into the office today. We'd usually do the same but wanted to get home before midnight. We spent the last four days being gluttonous assholes, including a trip to a Brazilian steakhouse that could have fed a small village for several days. We weren't looking for a ton of food or to eat up the clock. We just wanted a bathroom and a quick in and out.
OOC I put that order into my app as if I was buying it at my local CFA where I go to often for lunch at work. (I assumed large fries here) Came out to $25 so yeah, thats quite a bit upcharge for that location.
You're correct in your large fry assumption. I don't know if they counted towards the final bill, but we were given four packs of buffalo and four packs of CFA sauce as well.
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Speaking of CFA the company that is rebuilding/renovating all of the service areas along the entire length of the New York State Thruway decided to bring CFA in as an anchor tenant. I get the idea to upgrade from the Burger Kings, etc. but why the hell would you pick a chain that is famously closed on Sunday, a major travel day of the week, for your highway rest areas?
I don't really care much for CFA, but I noticed a new one opened at the service area on I-87 near the Yonkers and figure that it is to attract more people. Looks like this location opened about a week ago
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I actually got CFA at one of these stops yesterday on my way back from Niagara Falls! I thought the exact same thing you did. The choices were Shake Shack or CFA.
It was only my second time getting CFA, and I have to say, it was pretty crappy. I'm assuming it was because it was a rest stop location. I can't imagine that place being as popular as it is otherwise.. We split a 30 piece nugget and 2 fries and it came out to $34.
Madness.
That's when you take really small bites so at least maybe you feel like you are getting your money's worth...maybe.
Or get off the turnpike and eat a real meal, maybe. I'll go pretty far out of my way to avoid getting ripped off for crappy food. :dunno:
We had already been in the car for seven hours and I had to get into the office today. We'd usually do the same but wanted to get home before midnight. We spent the last four days being gluttonous assholes, including a trip to a Brazilian steakhouse that could have fed a small village for several days. We weren't looking for a ton of food or to eat up the clock. We just wanted a bathroom and a quick in and out.
I totally get it. It reminds me of my bartending days when you are moving fast and you just need something, anything, quick to scarf down before you move on. In those situations, anything tastes good. Well, except peanut butter. That never tastes good.
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I actually got CFA at one of these stops yesterday on my way back from Niagara Falls! I thought the exact same thing you did. The choices were Shake Shack or CFA.
It was only my second time getting CFA, and I have to say, it was pretty crappy. I'm assuming it was because it was a rest stop location. I can't imagine that place being as popular as it is otherwise.. We split a 30 piece nugget and 2 fries and it came out to $34.
Madness.
That's when you take really small bites so at least maybe you feel like you are getting your money's worth...maybe.
Or get off the turnpike and eat a real meal, maybe. I'll go pretty far out of my way to avoid getting ripped off for crappy food. :dunno:
We had already been in the car for seven hours and I had to get into the office today. We'd usually do the same but wanted to get home before midnight. We spent the last four days being gluttonous assholes, including a trip to a Brazilian steakhouse that could have fed a small village for several days. We weren't looking for a ton of food or to eat up the clock. We just wanted a bathroom and a quick in and out.
No judgement from me. I typically don't do 7 hour drives. Unless it's a cross country thing I limit my drive time to 4 hours, as a rule, so I seldom run into that problem.
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I actually got CFA at one of these stops yesterday on my way back from Niagara Falls! I thought the exact same thing you did. The choices were Shake Shack or CFA.
It was only my second time getting CFA, and I have to say, it was pretty crappy. I'm assuming it was because it was a rest stop location. I can't imagine that place being as popular as it is otherwise.. We split a 30 piece nugget and 2 fries and it came out to $34.
Madness.
That's when you take really small bites so at least maybe you feel like you are getting your money's worth...maybe.
Or get off the turnpike and eat a real meal, maybe. I'll go pretty far out of my way to avoid getting ripped off for crappy food. :dunno:
We had already been in the car for seven hours and I had to get into the office today. We'd usually do the same but wanted to get home before midnight. We spent the last four days being gluttonous assholes, including a trip to a Brazilian steakhouse that could have fed a small village for several days. We weren't looking for a ton of food or to eat up the clock. We just wanted a bathroom and a quick in and out.
OOC I put that order into my app as if I was buying it at my local CFA where I go to often for lunch at work. (I assumed large fries here) Came out to $25 so yeah, thats quite a bit upcharge for that location.
You're correct in your large fry assumption. I don't know if they counted towards the final bill, but we were given four packs of buffalo and four packs of CFA sauce as well.
They should't charge you for the sauces. Only if you ask for more than what they'd give. In the app you can get two for each item, but with a 30 count you can probably get a lot more.
Also, when I road trip, unless I planned on something before hand for a nice food stop, I'm not getting off the highway. I'm usually just too much in the "get there" mode to go anywhere outside my path unless it's planned before hand.
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I actually got CFA at one of these stops yesterday on my way back from Niagara Falls! I thought the exact same thing you did. The choices were Shake Shack or CFA.
What's madness is you were 30 minutes from where I live and didn't let me know!?!?!?
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The wait times for anything medical involving a human or a pet.
My dog had a little bump appear on him arm last week. It looked like a bite (wasn't a tick) or as if he got poked with a stick or something while running through the woods. It's gotten much bigger over the last week and he's starting to go at it with his teeth. I called the vet today to try and get him in to see what it is, and the earliest date they have with an afternoon slot available is July 18th.
I hope it's not anything serious.
I called my GP last week to schedule my annual physical and it's an 11 week wait. WTF?
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The wait times for anything medical involving a human or a pet.
My dog had a little bump appear on him arm last week. It looked like a bite (wasn't a tick) or as if he got poked with a stick or something while running through the woods. It's gotten much bigger over the last week and he's starting to go at it with his teeth. I called the vet today to try and get him in to see what it is, and the earliest date they have with an afternoon slot available is July 18th.
I hope it's not anything serious.
You don't have animal hospitals where you live? They usually have the animal equivalent of an ER where you should be able to get quicker treatment.
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The wait times for anything medical involving a human or a pet.
My dog had a little bump appear on him arm last week. It looked like a bite (wasn't a tick) or as if he got poked with a stick or something while running through the woods. It's gotten much bigger over the last week and he's starting to go at it with his teeth. I called the vet today to try and get him in to see what it is, and the earliest date they have with an afternoon slot available is July 18th.
I hope it's not anything serious.
You don't have animal hospitals where you live? They usually have the animal equivalent of an ER where you should be able to get quicker treatment.
We do, but aren't those typically for emergencies, or do they function more like an Urgent Care for humans? The only time I've been to an actual animal hospital was the time my 15lb dog at a 1lb bar of dark bakers chocolate, and the day I had to put my cat down.
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The wait times for anything medical involving a human or a pet.
My dog had a little bump appear on him arm last week. It looked like a bite (wasn't a tick) or as if he got poked with a stick or something while running through the woods. It's gotten much bigger over the last week and he's starting to go at it with his teeth. I called the vet today to try and get him in to see what it is, and the earliest date they have with an afternoon slot available is July 18th.
I hope it's not anything serious.
You don't have animal hospitals where you live? They usually have the animal equivalent of an ER where you should be able to get quicker treatment.
There might also be the animal equivalent of telemedicine. I doubt you'd get a proper diagnosis, but you could probably get a "eh, it's probably nothing to worry about," or a "that could be major, better get him to a vet quick." Both would be better than worrying for a month.
As for the human doc, my current PCP has similar wait times. However, his PA is usually available within 24 hours. Seems that everybody wants to see the main guy because they're so important and his assistant is probably no good. Truth be told, I've found that the PAs tend to be far better and far more communicative, at least for the normal stuff. I also found out that my doctor's hospital has a doc in the box up the road that treats existing patients for the same price as an office visit. I saw somebody about my thumb a couple of months ago and only paid $30 for an exam and xrays. I was actually pretty impressed with their practice (not to mention the hottest doctor I've ever seen :hefdaddy).
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The wait times for anything medical involving a human or a pet.
My dog had a little bump appear on him arm last week. It looked like a bite (wasn't a tick) or as if he got poked with a stick or something while running through the woods. It's gotten much bigger over the last week and he's starting to go at it with his teeth. I called the vet today to try and get him in to see what it is, and the earliest date they have with an afternoon slot available is July 18th.
I hope it's not anything serious.
You don't have animal hospitals where you live? They usually have the animal equivalent of an ER where you should be able to get quicker treatment.
We do, but aren't those typically for emergencies, or do they function more like an Urgent Care for humans?
If something is going on that you don't know what it is, it's an emergency.
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The wait times for anything medical involving a human or a pet.
My dog had a little bump appear on him arm last week. It looked like a bite (wasn't a tick) or as if he got poked with a stick or something while running through the woods. It's gotten much bigger over the last week and he's starting to go at it with his teeth. I called the vet today to try and get him in to see what it is, and the earliest date they have with an afternoon slot available is July 18th.
I hope it's not anything serious.
You don't have animal hospitals where you live? They usually have the animal equivalent of an ER where you should be able to get quicker treatment.
We do, but aren't those typically for emergencies, or do they function more like an Urgent Care for humans?
If something is going on that you don't know what it is, it's an emergency.
That is not an emergency. An emergency is if it's life threatening. Urgent care is when you need immediate care.
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The wait times for anything medical involving a human or a pet.
My dog had a little bump appear on him arm last week. It looked like a bite (wasn't a tick) or as if he got poked with a stick or something while running through the woods. It's gotten much bigger over the last week and he's starting to go at it with his teeth. I called the vet today to try and get him in to see what it is, and the earliest date they have with an afternoon slot available is July 18th.
I hope it's not anything serious.
I called my GP last week to schedule my annual physical and it's an 11 week wait. WTF?
That really sucks but I was told that pretty much all mom and pop vets are being sucked up by one of the two giant vet organizations in the country so they're getting worse. And while I don't have a mechanic friend, a lawyer friend, etc. to help with those specific things I do have a vet friend in case I need some emergency diagnosis.
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The wait times for anything medical involving a human or a pet.
My dog had a little bump appear on him arm last week. It looked like a bite (wasn't a tick) or as if he got poked with a stick or something while running through the woods. It's gotten much bigger over the last week and he's starting to go at it with his teeth. I called the vet today to try and get him in to see what it is, and the earliest date they have with an afternoon slot available is July 18th.
I hope it's not anything serious.
You don't have animal hospitals where you live? They usually have the animal equivalent of an ER where you should be able to get quicker treatment.
We do, but aren't those typically for emergencies, or do they function more like an Urgent Care for humans?
If something is going on that you don't know what it is, it's an emergency.
That is not an emergency. An emergency is if it's life threatening. Urgent care is when you need immediate care.
Oh for God's sake
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Praying to God won't make it get better. Get to the Emergency room! :lol
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I've seen a few different videos of women in fairly revealing workout attire calling out men who they perceive as checking them out as "perverts." Not defending men staring at women in an unwelcome way, but grown men appreciating the attractiveness of grown women aren't perverts. Am I off base here to think that pervert is the wrong term? I don't even know what the right term would be. Creepy? If the guys were checking out 11 year old girls pervert all the way. Not sure why I'm defending the definition of perverts, but these videos bugged me.
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If you dress for attention then don't complain. Man, I wish I had the body someone would look at. :lol
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I've seen a few different videos of women in fairly revealing workout attire calling out men who they perceive as checking them out as "perverts." Not defending men staring at women in an unwelcome way, but grown men appreciating the attractiveness of grown women aren't perverts. Am I off base here to think that pervert is the wrong term? I don't even know what the right term would be. Creepy? If the guys were checking out 11 year old girls pervert all the way. Not sure why I'm defending the definition of perverts, but these videos bugged me.
I love it when they are in full makeup. Who puts on a ton of makeup to work out (where you will sweat a lot, unless your half ass your way through it)? Women who WANT people to look at them (and there is nothing wrong with that). And then they complain when it happens. It reminds me of the actress (I cannot remember her name, but she is not a "name") who was on Conan years ago. To say she was well-endowed would be an understatement, and her dress was showing them big time, and while talking, she gave Conan the "Focus," line and tried to direct his head back up to her face, as if to imply that he had glanced at her chest. Mad props to Andy Richter, his sidekick, for saying how unfair that was all things considered. The whole exchange was very good-natured, but it was a good example of someone who was begging to be looked at and then tried to act all huffy about it when someone looked.
So yeah, I agree. As long as the men (or women! this is 2023 after all) aren't doing it in a perverted way and/or aren't looking at women half their age, it is fine.
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Actual women in workout attire don't do this. These are just morons trying to get views on whatever platform they're using.
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Actual women in workout attire don't do this. These are just morons trying to get views on whatever platform they're using.
Oh of course. I wasn't even as bothered by them calling out men as I was by their use of the word pervert. Just annoyed me.
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I often feel a little creepy looking at women that are close to, or knowingly, younger than jingle.daughter (who's turning 23 in August). The pool of women I can gawk at is getting more and more limited each passing year. :lol
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The pool of women I can gawk at is getting more and more limited each passing year.
And more and more older. :lol
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The pool of women I can gawk at is getting more and more limited each passing year.
And more and more older. :lol
I think the word you're looking for is "mature". :lol
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The pool of women I can gawk at is getting more and more limited each passing year.
And more and more older. :lol
I think the word you're looking for is "mature". :lol
Yeah, that's the word. :lol
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I'm in the camp of people should wear whatever the fuck they want (provided it adhere's to the gym's policies) when working out. And I absolutely hate the gym preening/posting online that seems to be the norm these days. Both men and women do this.
While I'm thinking about it - I really hate the people filming in the grocery store in order to post a video about toxic cereal or toxic seed oils or toxic soda or toxic coffee creamer. (Somehow they seem to always miss the beer and alcohol aisle don't they?). But I digress....
Lordxizor what you are seeing now might be a backlash to some clips posted about a year ago where many men on social media were bitching about women wearing leggings, bras, and shorts to the gym because the men found them too distracting so the poor things couldn't (I guess) complete their workouts because it took too much effort to avert their eyes or whatnot. ::)
Anyhow, there now seems to be a concerted effort by some women to a) wear increasingly provocative attire to essentially say a giant "fuck you" to those guys and b) turn it around so the guys leering are perverts as a means to get revenge from before when women were just dressing normally but still couldn't do anything right.
I thank my lucky stars daily that I have my own gym at home and can leave the gym rats to themselves.
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Man, I damn near drove off the road checking out a girl riding a scooter in shorts that only halfway covered her ass not 45 minutes ago. I actually drove down to the next block just get another look at her. :lol
I'm pretty upfront about being a dirty old man. Important to me is not making anybody feel uncomfortable for any reason, though. That's just me striving to be an honourable fellow. I'll ogle the bejeezus out of somebody, but I'll err on the side of caution in making sure I don't bother them. That would upset me more than them. As for age, that hasn't changed much. Like Jingle and Tac, my interest in women I'd want anything to do with has continued to increase, but I've got no problem distinguishing between potential interests and smokin' hot chicks I simply want to get a nice look at. Besides, what's the rule, double your age -7? That's still plenty workable for me.
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Besides, what's the rule, double your age -7? That's still plenty workable for me.
if you're 50, have fun with 93 and up!
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I believe the rule is half your age plus 7 :lol
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Being a gay man, I am just here like this :corn when discussing how Heterosexual people perceive it compared to how homosexual people view it.
Most of the guys at the Gym in sweat pants are the same equivalent of women in spandex. The gym is like the scene in Willy Wonka where they all first see a glimpse of the Chocolate Factory. :lol
If you see a man at the gym in spandex, chances are they're likely trying to show themselves off for potential mates, or just trying to garner attention from others to gawk at their sexiness.
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Man, I damn near drove off the road checking out a girl riding a scooter in shorts that only halfway covered her ass not 45 minutes ago. I actually drove down to the next block just get another look at her. :lol
I'm pretty upfront about being a dirty old man. Important to me is not making anybody feel uncomfortable for any reason, though. That's just me striving to be an honourable fellow. I'll ogle the bejeezus out of somebody, but I'll err on the side of caution in making sure I don't bother them. That would upset me more than them. As for age, that hasn't changed much. Like Jingle and Tac, my interest in women I'd want anything to do with has continued to increase, but I've got no problem distinguishing between potential interests and smokin' hot chicks I simply want to get a nice look at. Besides, what's the rule, double your age -7? That's still plenty workable for me.
Was it Sue Ellen Mischke? ;)
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Man, I damn near drove off the road checking out a girl riding a scooter in shorts that only halfway covered her ass not 45 minutes ago. I actually drove down to the next block just get another look at her. :lol
I'm pretty upfront about being a dirty old man. Important to me is not making anybody feel uncomfortable for any reason, though. That's just me striving to be an honourable fellow. I'll ogle the bejeezus out of somebody, but I'll err on the side of caution in making sure I don't bother them. That would upset me more than them. As for age, that hasn't changed much. Like Jingle and Tac, my interest in women I'd want anything to do with has continued to increase, but I've got no problem distinguishing between potential interests and smokin' hot chicks I simply want to get a nice look at. Besides, what's the rule, double your age -7? That's still plenty workable for me.
Was it Sue Ellen Mischke? ;)
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:lol
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I'm in the camp of people should wear whatever the fuck they want (provided it adhere's to the gym's policies) when working out. And I absolutely hate the gym preening/posting online that seems to be the norm these days. Both men and women do this.
While I'm thinking about it - I really hate the people filming in the grocery store in order to post a video about toxic cereal or toxic seed oils or toxic soda or toxic coffee creamer. (Somehow they seem to always miss the beer and alcohol aisle don't they?). But I digress....
Lordxizor what you are seeing now might be a backlash to some clips posted about a year ago where many men on social media were bitching about women wearing leggings, bras, and shorts to the gym because the men found them too distracting so the poor things couldn't (I guess) complete their workouts because it took too much effort to avert their eyes or whatnot. ::)
Anyhow, there now seems to be a concerted effort by some women to a) wear increasingly provocative attire to essentially say a giant "fuck you" to those guys and b) turn it around so the guys leering are perverts as a means to get revenge from before when women were just dressing normally but still couldn't do anything right.
I thank my lucky stars daily that I have my own gym at home and can leave the gym rats to themselves.
You're writing this about women, but my comment is more general: I just don't get the energy we expend here in the States with things like vengeance and what not. Road rage, gym provocation... if that energy was spent on our kids, on our jobs, on making ourselves better, on reaching out and making a positive connection with someone else ... this world would be so much better. Just walk away, for Pete's sake. Do we really think these targets are learning anything meaningful? Or merely fomenting their own revenge fantasies? Seems pointless to me.
(And again, I'm not pointing at women here, I'm pointing at PEOPLE.)
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Apologies if this has been brought up before but today I encountered something in a restaurant that seems to happen more often than I would expect. Beginning was good, ordering drinks, apps and mains all which came out in a timely manner. Then we're getting wrapped up and they asked if we needed a box and the check which we did as we clearly were looking to get out of there. Then we waited. And waited. Then someone else came by and asked if we needed boxes and we said yes. And waited. And waited. Then finally after 20 minutes they came back with the check and the boxes and left. Then another 20 minutes went by and finally they came and grabbed the check.
I'm well aware it's not easy in the service industry but I've had a lot of meals lately where everything went smoothly until getting and paying for the check which has taken 30-45 minutes. Points docked to us for not getting up and asking someone but it seems like a strange point of the dining process to drag feet when you're looking to turn tables over.
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That's just bad waitressing.
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I hope the tip blew.
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It was a holiday so we tipped nice but I had this thought in the back of my head like "If you don't come to get the check in 30 minutes I should just walk out." I wasn't raised like that but damn it seems slightly justified.
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Related but I have read a lot about tipping culture spiraling out of control. Tipping when you have bagged your own groceries, or not tipping enough for a small-ish order, or tipping on an online platform.
Anyone see this? I rarely have an opportunity to tip since I cook at home most of the time.
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If I'm in a place where I order from the counter and they have a tip jar I ignore that as they're not doing anything over the top that would earn a few more dollars.
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Related but I have read a lot about tipping culture spiraling out of control. Tipping when you have bagged your own groceries, or not tipping enough for a small-ish order, or tipping on an online platform.
Anyone see this? I rarely have an opportunity to tip since I cook at home most of the time.
Yes, it's everywhere. I think it was discussed here a few months back - someone ran into a tip option on the pay terminal at a Subway. Not only that, but the default options are going up - "15%; 20%; 25%". Hell, at a cab in Vegas last year, my options were 20%; 30%; 40%.
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At least in the USA, tipping has almost completed its transformation from "nice bonus for exceptional work" to "if you don't give an extra 30% this guy won't make minimum wage today".
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At least in the USA, tipping has almost completed its transformation from "nice bonus for exceptional work" to "if you don't give an extra 30% this guy won't make minimum wage today".
Exactly. Employers make their employees rely on tipping so they can blame us, the consumer, if they're not making enough money.
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At least in the USA, tipping has almost completed its transformation from "nice bonus for exceptional work" to "if you don't give an extra 30% this guy won't make minimum wage today".
People don't mind tipping well in the US. If the service is bad then we adjust. I'm not picky on service unless there is neglect.
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At least in the USA, tipping has almost completed its transformation from "nice bonus for exceptional work" to "if you don't give an extra 30% this guy won't make minimum wage today".
People don't mind tipping well in the US. If the service is bad then we adjust. I'm not picky on service unless there is neglect.
Tipping in certain industries is normal and has been the case forever. The 'new' tipping culture to tip for virtually any kind of service is getting out of hand. I'm 1/2 expecting the POS terminals at grocery cashiers to offer a tip option soon. I get it, in some cases it's the pre-programming of the POS (eg, sit-down restaurants). The terminals aren't programmed differently for table service vs pick-up. But c'mon... quick-serve restaurants??
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I never tip at Dunkin Donuts ect. Just restaurants.
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At least in the USA, tipping has almost completed its transformation from "nice bonus for exceptional work" to "if you don't give an extra 30% this guy won't make minimum wage today".
People don't mind tipping well in the US. If the service is bad then we adjust. I'm not picky on service unless there is neglect.
Tipping in certain industries is normal and has been the case forever. The 'new' tipping culture to tip for virtually any kind of service is getting out of hand. I'm 1/2 expecting the POS terminals at grocery cashiers to offer a tip option soon. I get it, in some cases it's the pre-programming of the POS (eg, sit-down restaurants). The terminals aren't programmed differently for table service vs pick-up. But c'mon... quick-serve restaurants??
I recently dropped my Ipod and had the screen all jacked. Took it to a shop to get fixed. When I went to pay, a tip option came up and for a split second I was at a loss, did they expect me to tip for this? Then the guy quickly was like "Oh, just ignore that" and hit decline tip for me. So it was obviously the case that his machine was set up to take tips and not custom to their business. I'm glad he took care of it.
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We stayed in a hotel in Niagara Falls a few weeks ago and the AC unit in the room broke. Our room was 77 degrees at 1AM. A maintenance guy was sent up to swap out the unit. My fiance's sister and I (the three of us were sharing a multi-room) got into a light tiff about me thinking it was absurd to tip the guy and not wanting to.
The rooms were $550 a night and our experience and ability to sleep were impacted by a problem on the hotel's end, and the expectation has become for us to voluntarily pay MORE money because some maintenance guy had to do maintenance while he was on the clock?
It's lunacy.
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I only tip if I'm being served at a restaurant, if I'm doing any of the work then I'm not leaving a tip. This is fairly new to me because I always felt guilty not hitting the tip button on the POS. My brother who works for the company that supports POS systems for large restaurant chains told me once they implemented the tip option at Moes in the POS (burrito chain, kinda like Chiptole) tipping went up almost 600% over the previous system of having the person leave cash or sign a tip line on the receipt.
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At least in the USA, tipping has almost completed its transformation from "nice bonus for exceptional work" to "if you don't give an extra 30% this guy won't make minimum wage today".
One, don't assume that's the case in all instances. I can't speak for all fast food, but a) some chains don't allow for tipping, so the wage is already the wage, b) some chains (Chipotle) do have a tip cup, but that is on the initiative of the employees in that store, and so the wage is already the wage (and they pay more than minimum), and c) for those that do structure it so the base pay is below minimum, then do the work. I'm not tipping as an obligation, I'm tipping as a courtesy. It's not my "job", pun intended - to make sure you make your monthly nut. It IS my job to evaluate the service, and provide a gratuity commensurate with that.
I'm a VERY generous tipper - my local establishments I start at 20% - but I've taken to not tipping at the Subway's of the world, and my local bar fired two of their best bartenders, and all the other regulars walked out in protest, so the new staff is struggling... and I'm not rewarding that. Sitting at the bar, I sat for 45 minutes the other day waiting for a beer and my check in a room that had at MOST 10 patrons. No thank you. My step son and I sat for about 30 minutes the other day (different bartender) for the same thing. No thank you.
I've tended bar; it's not hard to point and say "another round while I get your check?" or touch base to make sure we weren't forgotten. The woman in the second case was standing RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME for ten minutes while she struggled to make a mixed drink (and dumped it out twice). I'm not sure why my tips are required there. In my job, if I don't know how to do something I learn it, on my own time if need be. If you don't remember the drinks, flashcards. Own your job.
CONTRAST: The old bartenders would have our beers on the bar when we got to where we were sitting. Or if they saw us walk in, would get the beer and meet us where we sat. During the night, it was understood, when we were done with our beers we'd put it on the little rail where the rubber mats are, and when they'd go by, they'd bring us one. As part of their normal "circuit" of the bar. At the end of the night, if we were still there, we were never part of the 'last call' crowd, and would often hang and talk to the bartenders/servers while they did their rounds at the end of the night. They were getting 30% on almost every check. I was always taught as a bartender that no matter what you were doing, you made sure you made eye contact with either the patron or their drink (to see how much was left) about every five minutes or so, depending on the crowd, etc.
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We stayed in a hotel in Niagara Falls a few weeks ago and the AC unit in the room broke. Our room was 77 degrees at 1AM. A maintenance guy was sent up to swap out the unit. My fiance's sister and I (the three of us were sharing a multi-room) got into a light tiff about me thinking it was absurd to tip the guy and not wanting to.
The rooms were $550 a night and our experience and ability to sleep were impacted by a problem on the hotel's end, and the expectation has become for us to voluntarily pay MORE money because some maintenance guy had to do maintenance while he was on the clock?
It's lunacy.
I'm with you; the only way I'm tipping in that instance is if $20 gets the guy to fix it then and there as opposed to waiting for a part or something. And even then, I'm going to the desk and seeing if I can get anything off the bill (to compensate).
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We stayed in a hotel in Niagara Falls a few weeks ago and the AC unit in the room broke. Our room was 77 degrees at 1AM. A maintenance guy was sent up to swap out the unit. My fiance's sister and I (the three of us were sharing a multi-room) got into a light tiff about me thinking it was absurd to tip the guy and not wanting to.
The rooms were $550 a night and our experience and ability to sleep were impacted by a problem on the hotel's end, and the expectation has become for us to voluntarily pay MORE money because some maintenance guy had to do maintenance while he was on the clock?
It's lunacy.
I'm with you; the only way I'm tipping in that instance is if $20 gets the guy to fix it then and there as opposed to waiting for a part or something. And even then, I'm going to the desk and seeing if I can get anything off the bill (to compensate).
Yeah, I'm not tipping here. At $550 a night, I'm probably complaining to the front desk as well if this happened.
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We stayed in a hotel in Niagara Falls a few weeks ago and the AC unit in the room broke. Our room was 77 degrees at 1AM. A maintenance guy was sent up to swap out the unit. My fiance's sister and I (the three of us were sharing a multi-room) got into a light tiff about me thinking it was absurd to tip the guy and not wanting to.
The rooms were $550 a night and our experience and ability to sleep were impacted by a problem on the hotel's end, and the expectation has become for us to voluntarily pay MORE money because some maintenance guy had to do maintenance while he was on the clock?
It's lunacy.
I'm with you; the only way I'm tipping in that instance is if $20 gets the guy to fix it then and there as opposed to waiting for a part or something. And even then, I'm going to the desk and seeing if I can get anything off the bill (to compensate).
Yeah, I'm not tipping here. At $550 a night, I'm probably complaining to the front desk as well if this happened.
We did, and they were complete shitheads about it. Our AC unit actually had to be swapped twice in the three nights we spent there. The replacement one they initially dropped in was refurbished and never got the room under 73. The second time it happened, our last night there, we called the front desk at 2AM to let them know. We asked if we could simply sleep in a different room for the night, leaving our stuff, and then check out in the AM. We were told we could get a new room, but we'd have to check out of our current one and move all of our belongings into the new one... at 2AM. By the time all was said and done, we got $100 off our final bill for our inconvenience (parking alone was $50 a day), and the hotel got a 1 star review in exchange.
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Oof, that sucks big time.
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We stayed in a hotel in Niagara Falls a few weeks ago and the AC unit in the room broke. Our room was 77 degrees at 1AM. A maintenance guy was sent up to swap out the unit. My fiance's sister and I (the three of us were sharing a multi-room) got into a light tiff about me thinking it was absurd to tip the guy and not wanting to.
The rooms were $550 a night and our experience and ability to sleep were impacted by a problem on the hotel's end, and the expectation has become for us to voluntarily pay MORE money because some maintenance guy had to do maintenance while he was on the clock?
It's lunacy.
I'm with you; the only way I'm tipping in that instance is if $20 gets the guy to fix it then and there as opposed to waiting for a part or something. And even then, I'm going to the desk and seeing if I can get anything off the bill (to compensate).
Yeah, I'm not tipping here. At $550 a night, I'm probably complaining to the front desk as well if this happened.
We did, and they were complete shitheads about it. Our AC unit actually had to be swapped twice in the three nights we spent there. The replacement one they initially dropped in was refurbished and never got the room under 73. The second time it happened, our last night there, we called the front desk at 2AM to let them know. We asked if we could simply sleep in a different room for the night, leaving our stuff, and then check out in the AM. We were told we could get a new room, but we'd have to check out of our current one and move all of our belongings into the new one... at 2AM. By the time all was said and done, we got $100 off our final bill for our inconvenience (parking alone was $50 a day), and the hotel got a 1 star review in exchange.
I just had a Vietnam style flashback when I worked at a hotel with this exact thing happening during out busiest month :lol
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So after posing the question about tipping, I had a opportunity to tip when I wasn't expecting.
I paid for a service that a guy did for my house for $500. It was a huge help for stuff I can't get to, especially since I watch one or both kids . I paid online and there was an option to tip. I was torn because the guy was able to get my house in line fast and it was a local business, and he was completely professional, but $500 is already a lot. He even changed some light bulbs I had trouble getting to (because I hate heights lol).
I tipped him $20 because he went above and beyond and was a pleasure to do business with the whole time, and was a local business. It felt worth it.
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Yeah I keep forgetting to have cash to tip those kinds of folks. Two months ago I had a water heater emergency and the service tech came and fixed it on short notice. I wish I had a $10 bill or something to give him as a thank you since the service is included in my contract.
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Yeah I keep forgetting to have cash to tip those kinds of folks. Two months ago I had a water heater emergency and the service tech came and fixed it on short notice. I wish I had a $10 bill or something to give him as a thank you since the service is included in my contract.
I've never even considered a tip for something like that. The guy is working.
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Yeah I keep forgetting to have cash to tip those kinds of folks. Two months ago I had a water heater emergency and the service tech came and fixed it on short notice. I wish I had a $10 bill or something to give him as a thank you since the service is included in my contract.
I've never even considered a tip for something like that. The guy is working.
Same. We have an exterminator coming out tomorrow. My wife talked to him today and said he was super nice and that he was going to do some "above and beyond" things. I'm pretty sure she won't be tipping him.
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Yeah I keep forgetting to have cash to tip those kinds of folks. Two months ago I had a water heater emergency and the service tech came and fixed it on short notice. I wish I had a $10 bill or something to give him as a thank you since the service is included in my contract.
I've never even considered a tip for something like that. The guy is working.
Same. We have an exterminator coming out tomorrow. My wife talked to him today and said he was super nice and that he was going to do some "above and beyond" things. I'm pretty sure she won't be tipping him.
If he's doing "above and beyond" things for your wife, I'd make sure I was home. :lol
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Yeah I keep forgetting to have cash to tip those kinds of folks. Two months ago I had a water heater emergency and the service tech came and fixed it on short notice. I wish I had a $10 bill or something to give him as a thank you since the service is included in my contract.
I've never even considered a tip for something like that. The guy is working.
Same. We have an exterminator coming out tomorrow. My wife talked to him today and said he was super nice and that he was going to do some "above and beyond" things. I'm pretty sure she won't be tipping him.
You better hope not. :biggrin:
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Yeah I keep forgetting to have cash to tip those kinds of folks. Two months ago I had a water heater emergency and the service tech came and fixed it on short notice. I wish I had a $10 bill or something to give him as a thank you since the service is included in my contract.
I'm already tipping the fucking company when they charge me "emergency" rates. I had my furnace go on the fritz on a Sunday morning in January a few years bac. Woke up and the house was 59F. $300 fee for service. I don't care that I'm waking the guy up on a Sunday morning before he's even had a cup of coffee, I ain't fucking tipping on a rate that's already jacked by 100%+.
Oh, and I'm NEVER tipping the owner of a company, or a one-man/woman-show (eg, local plumber). It's their fucking company, they're pocketing all the profits already.
Mrs.jingle an I are going out to lunch today to a local winery. The only booking site requires a "deposit" for the reservation. First of all, WTF? Second, the default option is a 20% tip. Fuck that shit if you think I'm going to give a tip when NO FUCKING SERVICE HAS BEEN PROVIDED YET?? JFC. Thankfully there was a "no tip" option.
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Yeah I keep forgetting to have cash to tip those kinds of folks. Two months ago I had a water heater emergency and the service tech came and fixed it on short notice. I wish I had a $10 bill or something to give him as a thank you since the service is included in my contract.
I've never even considered a tip for something like that. The guy is working.
Same. We have an exterminator coming out tomorrow. My wife talked to him today and said he was super nice and that he was going to do some "above and beyond" things. I'm pretty sure she won't be tipping him.
If he's doing "above and beyond" things for your wife, I'd make sure I was home. :lol
You better hope not. :biggrin:
Damn glad I wasn't taking a drink of something when I read these! :rollin
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Mrs.jingle an I are going out to lunch today to a local winery. The only booking site requires a "deposit" for the reservation. First of all, WTF? Second, the default option is a 20% tip. Fuck that shit if you think I'm going to give a tip when NO FUCKING SERVICE HAS BEEN PROVIDED YET?? JFC. Thankfully there was a "no tip" option.
I have a friend in the wine industry who told me that the tip feature is worked into the software the company purchases. So the employees there don't really have any option around that. When I visit wineries, I typically tip for excellent service with cash. I never tip on my card.
But the pandemic really fucked up the way wineries function - I'm sure they love it. It used to be you could just go out and hit a winery or 2 without having to have any reservations. Now not only are reservations required, but you must hold them with a credit card and you will be charged if you don't show up. Some demand at least a 24 hour ahead cancelation. So say you are enjoying winery #1 and decide that hitting another winery would put you over the comfort zone of being able to drive. So you opt NOT to go to winery #2 - you are screwed. I think this fact alone will lead to more people over-indulging and getting behind the wheel.
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Yeah I keep forgetting to have cash to tip those kinds of folks. Two months ago I had a water heater emergency and the service tech came and fixed it on short notice. I wish I had a $10 bill or something to give him as a thank you since the service is included in my contract.
I'm already tipping the fucking company when they charge me "emergency" rates. I had my furnace go on the fritz on a Sunday morning in January a few years bac. Woke up and the house was 59F. $300 fee for service. I don't care that I'm waking the guy up on a Sunday morning before he's even had a cup of coffee, I ain't fucking tipping on a rate that's already jacked by 100%+.
Oh, and I'm NEVER tipping the owner of a company, or a one-man/woman-show (eg, local plumber). It's their fucking company, they're pocketing all the profits already.
I totally agree with that. In my situation this was just one of the techs who moved shit around on the fly to get to my house and fix the problem as I was going to be dealing with a flooded basement or having no water in the house for a day or so. The service contract covered everything so I didn't have to pay an invoice but this guy rocked. It wasn't going to be a big tip more of a thank you to him for coming through in the clutch day of.
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Mrs.jingle an I are going out to lunch today to a local winery. The only booking site requires a "deposit" for the reservation. First of all, WTF? Second, the default option is a 20% tip. Fuck that shit if you think I'm going to give a tip when NO FUCKING SERVICE HAS BEEN PROVIDED YET?? JFC. Thankfully there was a "no tip" option.
I have a friend in the wine industry who told me that the tip feature is worked into the software the company purchases. So the employees there don't really have any option around that. When I visit wineries, I typically tip for excellent service with cash. I never tip on my card.
But the pandemic really fucked up the way wineries function - I'm sure they love it. It used to be you could just go out and hit a winery or 2 without having to have any reservations. Now not only are reservations required, but you must hold them with a credit card and you will be charged if you don't show up. Some demand at least a 24 hour ahead cancelation. So say you are enjoying winery #1 and decide that hitting another winery would put you over the comfort zone of being able to drive. So you opt NOT to go to winery #2 - you are screwed. I think this fact alone will lead to more people over-indulging and getting behind the wheel.
Do they do that for capacity purposes? Or to stop people from conserving space and not showing? Or both? I mean, I guess it depends on the winery, but if they have a mix of walk in and reserved customers, they ought not be caught short (or over). Or is it to make sure they have enough staff (I know staffing is a problem in the age of COVID).
Haha, sorry for all the questions... I have two cool wineries right near me, and I'm hoping they survive. It's fun to go on a Sunday and sit and watch music (they have live music often over the summer).
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Daytime TV..
So I see a number of doctors. My PCP, I usually see in the morning, and the Drew Barrymore Show is always on whenever I go in. Has anyone ever watched this piece of shit show. Nothing against her, but it is as gagworthy as it can get. So fucking cheesy.
A specialist I see usually in the early afternoons has The Price Is Right, which I must say fucking blows. How is Drew Carey even still on this. He sucks toads. And the editing.. WTF? Who's fucking doing that, an 8th grader.
If The Price Is Right is not on, there's usually Soap Operas. That shit is fucking offensive. How can they play that crap in a public place. The dialog is so ridiculous and no one would ever say that shit to anyone. Just fucking put porn on. That way I wouldn't have to hear anyone speak.
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Mrs.jingle an I are going out to lunch today to a local winery. The only booking site requires a "deposit" for the reservation. First of all, WTF? Second, the default option is a 20% tip. Fuck that shit if you think I'm going to give a tip when NO FUCKING SERVICE HAS BEEN PROVIDED YET?? JFC. Thankfully there was a "no tip" option.
I have a friend in the wine industry who told me that the tip feature is worked into the software the company purchases. So the employees there don't really have any option around that. When I visit wineries, I typically tip for excellent service with cash. I never tip on my card.
But the pandemic really fucked up the way wineries function - I'm sure they love it. It used to be you could just go out and hit a winery or 2 without having to have any reservations. Now not only are reservations required, but you must hold them with a credit card and you will be charged if you don't show up. Some demand at least a 24 hour ahead cancelation. So say you are enjoying winery #1 and decide that hitting another winery would put you over the comfort zone of being able to drive. So you opt NOT to go to winery #2 - you are screwed. I think this fact alone will lead to more people over-indulging and getting behind the wheel.
Do they do that for capacity purposes? Or to stop people from conserving space and not showing? Or both? I mean, I guess it depends on the winery, but if they have a mix of walk in and reserved customers, they ought not be caught short (or over). Or is it to make sure they have enough staff (I know staffing is a problem in the age of COVID).
Haha, sorry for all the questions... I have two cool wineries right near me, and I'm hoping they survive. It's fun to go on a Sunday and sit and watch music (they have live music often over the summer).
It definitely depends on the winery. Mom and pop wineries that are smaller are typically more relaxed and welcoming to foot traffic because they tend not to get in the weeds. The very large wineries don't want wall-to-wall people and yes, staffing is a concern. Those larger wineries operate more like restaurants now. Our kids took us out for Father's Day and we went to a very large winery that we happen to be club members at. Because the kids made the reservations, the winery didn't realize that until we got there. Of course our tastings were comped but they were very busy and since we also ordered food there, it took us longer than the reservation window and an employee actually approached our table and told us to wrap it up. That has never happened to me at a winery before, especially as a club member. But because the weather was not great, the winery was stuck not being able to sit people outside. So on the one hand, I get it. On the other hand it made me feel very differently about that winery that we have been members of for about 20 years. :-\
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Just fucking put porn on. That way I wouldn't have to hear anyone speak.
Yeah but the sound tracks... :laugh:
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Just fucking put porn on. That way I wouldn't have to hear anyone speak.
Yeah but the sound tracks... :laugh:
You haven't watched porn in a long time, have you? :lol
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Just fucking put porn on. That way I wouldn't have to hear anyone speak.
Yeah but the sound tracks... :laugh:
You haven't watched porn in a long time, have you? :lol
No - has the music gotten better?
Look, I watched my fair share back in the day. What can I say - they got boring to me. YMMV
Now I just think they contribute to a lot of problems in society. I'm not saying people shouldn't watch them, IDGAF. I just know that when raising my kids and now helping to raise my nephews after my sister died, I don't want them to think that porn is the standard bearer for sex and/or relationships.
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I have never liked porn. Not sure how normal that is. I agree that it is generally harmful to society though I don't care if people watch it. It can be very addicting to some and that strains relationships and habits.
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Not particularly irritating, but sent a text to a friend a picture of something nostalgic to us I hadn't seen in a long time, and the response I got from my friend was 'Emphasized an image.' First off, I have no clue how to "emphasize an image" in response to a text. Second of all, that type of response just feels so... lame. Like he couldn't be tasked with typing out "hey cool!"
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Not particularly irritating, but sent a text to a friend a picture of something nostalgic to us I hadn't seen in a long time, and the response I got from my friend was 'Emphasized an image.' First off, I have no clue how to "emphasize an image" in response to a text. Second of all, that type of response just feels so... lame. Like he couldn't be tasked with typing out "hey cool!"
:tup
;D
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I actually don't even mind that in this setting. It's the text comments that are in the 3rd person that irritate me.
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I actually don't even mind that in this setting. It's the text comments that are in the 3rd person that irritate me.
Yeah, I hear you. You take the time to send something and just getting basically a shrug would piss me off. It'd be the last thing like that I'd send.
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I actually don't even mind that in this setting. It's the text comments that are in the 3rd person that irritate me.
Yeah, I hear you. You take the time to send something and just getting basically a shrug would piss me off. It'd be the last thing like that I'd send.
His responses tend to be like that. I sent him a bit of a snarky reply, and he replied with a sincere comment. The memento I sent him was from my bachelor party, which had some meaning for both of us, which is why I took it a bit more personally.
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There's a dearth of writing talent and command of the language by those employed to know better. Headline today: "Claire Danes new baby". See this one all the time. A couple weeks ago a weatherman was on the radio with "repeat do-over of yesterday's weather". ::)
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There's a dearth of writing talent and command of the language by those employed to know better. Headline today: "Claire Danes new baby". See this one all the time. A couple weeks ago a weatherman was on the radio with "repeat do-over of yesterday's weather". ::)
That weatherman probably visited an ATM machine on the way to the studio.
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There's a dearth of writing talent and command of the language by those employed to know better. Headline today: "Claire Danes new baby". See this one all the time. A couple weeks ago a weatherman was on the radio with "repeat do-over of yesterday's weather". ::)
That weatherman probably visited an ATM machine on the way to the studio.
I see and notice what you did there.
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Not particularly irritating, but sent a text to a friend a picture of something nostalgic to us I hadn't seen in a long time, and the response I got from my friend was 'Emphasized an image.' First off, I have no clue how to "emphasize an image" in response to a text. Second of all, that type of response just feels so... lame. Like he couldn't be tasked with typing out "hey cool!"
This happens when an iphone user reacts to a text message with a !! emoji on the message sent from an android user. If it were an iphone to iphone user, you'd see !! to the corner of the text this, otherwise it would be written out 'Emphasized an image'
This exchange is all too common with my group of friends.
(https://compote.slate.com/images/4bb9a6d0-5bac-496b-a57a-bb2cce63bc01.jpeg?crop=750%2C1125%2Cx0%2Cy0)
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So...on my way out to lunch this afternoon, I made a quick stop in the restroom. As I stepped up to the urinal, the mobile phone of the person in one of the stalls rang. And dude answered the call. Talking at a normal volume. All while sitting there (presumably) blowing one out. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who finds that bat-crap crazy. If you call me and I'm on the can, I am NOT answering and, even if I did, I certainly would not do it at a volume much above a whisper, and it would only be to say, "I'll call you back." Seriously...WTF?
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So...on my way out to lunch this afternoon, I made a quick stop in the restroom. As I stepped up to the urinal, the mobile phone of the person in one of the stalls rang. And dude answered the call. Talking at a normal volume. All while sitting there (presumably) blowing one out. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who finds that bat-crap crazy. If you call me and I'm on the can, I am NOT answering and, even if I did, I certainly would not do it at a volume much above a whisper, and it would only be to say, "I'll call you back." Seriously...WTF?
Agreed.....I don't understand this move at all. I don't even do this at my own house. There is a sect of society though that will just carry on loud, intimate conversations in public. On one hand it's fascinating that they can just not give a crap like that....but part of me thinks that maybe the majority of people that do that crave the attention? I don't know.
But the public restroom phone conversation is just ridiculous.
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So...on my way out to lunch this afternoon, I made a quick stop in the restroom. As I stepped up to the urinal, the mobile phone of the person in one of the stalls rang. And dude answered the call. Talking at a normal volume. All while sitting there (presumably) blowing one out. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who finds that bat-crap crazy. If you call me and I'm on the can, I am NOT answering and, even if I did, I certainly would not do it at a volume much above a whisper, and it would only be to say, "I'll call you back." Seriously...WTF?
Agreed.....I don't understand this move at all. I don't even do this at my own house. There is a sect of society though that will just carry on loud, intimate conversations in public. On one hand it's fascinating that they can just not give a crap like that....but part of me thinks that maybe the majority of people that do that crave the attention? I don't know.
But the public restroom phone conversation is just ridiculous.
There's a lady that talks on her phone in our lunchroom so when I'm on lunch, I can hear her entire conversation, and whoever she's on the phone with is on speakerphone. WTF??
Like I would have no problem if two people are talking to each other in person there, but I don't know why this bugs me.
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So...on my way out to lunch this afternoon, I made a quick stop in the restroom. As I stepped up to the urinal, the mobile phone of the person in one of the stalls rang. And dude answered the call. Talking at a normal volume. All while sitting there (presumably) blowing one out. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who finds that bat-crap crazy. If you call me and I'm on the can, I am NOT answering and, even if I did, I certainly would not do it at a volume much above a whisper, and it would only be to say, "I'll call you back." Seriously...WTF?
Agreed.....I don't understand this move at all. I don't even do this at my own house. There is a sect of society though that will just carry on loud, intimate conversations in public. On one hand it's fascinating that they can just not give a crap like that....but part of me thinks that maybe the majority of people that do that crave the attention? I don't know.
But the public restroom phone conversation is just ridiculous.
There's a lady that talks on her phone in our lunchroom so when I'm on lunch, I can hear her entire conversation, and whoever she's on the phone with is on speakerphone. WTF??
Like I would have no problem if two people are talking to each other in person there, but I don't know why this bugs me.
In my field (legal), putting someone on speakerphone with others present, and without telling the person on the other end of the call, is a HUGE no-no. And yeah...I don't spend a lot of time on the phone (away from work), but I keep my calls as private as possible.
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I'm with Paul on that, first, with regards to phone privacy. And second, I'm with the rest of you on time and place. If you can't find peace to take a dump, when can you?
Side bar pet peeve, the people that hold the phone flat like a plate in front of their face with the speaker nanometers from their lips. My god; the sound on the other end must resemble a tsunami. I get it, electro waves, brain, cancer. But still there are other ways to do it.
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So...on my way out to lunch this afternoon, I made a quick stop in the restroom. As I stepped up to the urinal, the mobile phone of the person in one of the stalls rang. And dude answered the call. Talking at a normal volume. All while sitting there (presumably) blowing one out. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who finds that bat-crap crazy. If you call me and I'm on the can, I am NOT answering and, even if I did, I certainly would not do it at a volume much above a whisper, and it would only be to say, "I'll call you back." Seriously...WTF?
Nothing wrong with this post at all. People are fucking bizarre.
So...on my way out to lunch this afternoon, I made a quick stop in the restroom. As I stepped up to the urinal, the mobile phone of the person in one of the stalls rang. And dude answered the call. Talking at a normal volume. All while sitting there (presumably) blowing one out. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who finds that bat-crap crazy. If you call me and I'm on the can, I am NOT answering and, even if I did, I certainly would not do it at a volume much above a whisper, and it would only be to say, "I'll call you back." Seriously...WTF?
Agreed.....I don't understand this move at all. I don't even do this at my own house. There is a sect of society though that will just carry on loud, intimate conversations in public. On one hand it's fascinating that they can just not give a crap like that....but part of me thinks that maybe the majority of people that do that crave the attention? I don't know.
But the public restroom phone conversation is just ridiculous.
There's a lady that talks on her phone in our lunchroom so when I'm on lunch, I can hear her entire conversation, and whoever she's on the phone with is on speakerphone. WTF??
Like I would have no problem if two people are talking to each other in person there, but I don't know why this bugs me.
Because it's fucking inconsiderate and people are so self absorbed and have no thought about others around them.
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Side bar pet peeve, the people that hold the phone flat like a plate in front of their face with the speaker nanometers from their lips. My god; the sound on the other end must resemble a tsunami. I get it, electro waves, brain, cancer. But still there are other ways to do it.
Every time I see someone walking around talking to no one in particular, my first thought is never, "oh, that person is talking through a wireless device." It's, "what a nut!" If you brought someone from the past to walk around for a couple hours and then return and report on the future, they'd say, "there are so many lunatics walking around talking to themselves!" And yeah, the plate phone is just a weird look.
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Everything in my Technology Feed through Google News is nothing but low-keys adds for Prime Day sales.
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Everything in my Technology Feed through Google News is nothing but low-keys adds for Prime Day sales.
Amazon must think you are going to bite :lol
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I had my semi-annual cardiologist appointment this morning. It's become almost perfunctory except that, for the first time since I started seeing the cardi, the appointment was handled by a PA instead of the doctor. She went through all the usual stuff and then asked me, "why are you taking Coumadin" (i.e., Warfarin, a blood thinner, which is one of six different meds I take)? Am I supposed to know the answer to this question? I responded along the lines of, "ummm...because the doctor prescribed it and told me to take it." I don't mind the PA handling the appointment (although I do think the co-pay for a PA ought to be less, but that's a different issue), but it's downright annoying being asked something like this. If it's not obvious from my chart, then maybe ask the doctor about it after I'm gone. The question didn't instill a ton of confidence.
Of course, on the good side, my BP was "perfect" and my bad cholesterol was really low. :metal
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I have to take Eloquis the rest of my life. Twice I had blood clots in my lungs.
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I had my semi-annual cardiologist appointment this morning. It's become almost perfunctory except that, for the first time since I started seeing the cardi, the appointment was handled by a PA instead of the doctor. She went through all the usual stuff and then asked me, "why are you taking Coumadin" (i.e., Warfarin, a blood thinner, which is one of six different meds I take)? Am I supposed to know the answer to this question? I responded along the lines of, "ummm...because the doctor prescribed it and told me to take it." I don't mind the PA handling the appointment (although I do think the co-pay for a PA ought to be less, but that's a different issue), but it's downright annoying being asked something like this. If it's not obvious from my chart, then maybe ask the doctor about it after I'm gone. The question didn't instill a ton of confidence.
Of course, on the good side, my BP was "perfect" and my bad cholesterol was really low. :metal
I've learned not to discount PAs. I've had some that were sharper and more informed than their doctor bosses. I've probably seen 10 or 12 different docs/PAs at my nephrologist's, and if I were to keep score the PA's are probably a couple of points ahead of the doctors. If she asked that I'd want to know why, because she might know something you and the doc don't.
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I had my semi-annual cardiologist appointment this morning. It's become almost perfunctory except that, for the first time since I started seeing the cardi, the appointment was handled by a PA instead of the doctor. She went through all the usual stuff and then asked me, "why are you taking Coumadin" (i.e., Warfarin, a blood thinner, which is one of six different meds I take)? Am I supposed to know the answer to this question? I responded along the lines of, "ummm...because the doctor prescribed it and told me to take it." I don't mind the PA handling the appointment (although I do think the co-pay for a PA ought to be less, but that's a different issue), but it's downright annoying being asked something like this. If it's not obvious from my chart, then maybe ask the doctor about it after I'm gone. The question didn't instill a ton of confidence.
Of course, on the good side, my BP was "perfect" and my bad cholesterol was really low. :metal
I've learned not to discount PAs. I've had some that were sharper and more informed than their doctor bosses. I've probably seen 10 or 12 different docs/PAs at my nephrologist's, and if I were to keep score the PA's are probably a couple of points ahead of the doctors. If she asked that I'd want to know why, because she might know something you and the doc don't.
All that might be true, but the point is that I found it unprofessional of her to ask me why I was taking the med and to wonder out loud to me why the med is being prescribed.
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Today's exasperating entry:
The incessant linking of the Oppenheimer and Barbie movies. If I see "Barbenheimer" one more time, I might throw something.
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Today's exasperating entry:
The incessant linking of the Oppenheimer and Barbie movies. If I see "Barbenheimer" one more time, I might throw something.
The constant promotion of that Barbie flick has been crazy over the top, but I will never complain about having to look at Margot Robbie.
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Barbie also looks good. Have tickets to see it next Monday.
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Today's exasperating entry:
The incessant linking of the Oppenheimer and Barbie movies. If I see "Barbenheimer" one more time, I might throw something.
The constant promotion of that Barbie flick has been crazy over the top, but I will never complain about having to look at Margot Robbie.
Word.
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Sorry, but I think she looks weird in the clips. Especially her face.
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Yeah good one on the Barbieheimer one. Pretty happy Taylor Swift has left town as well as I didn't need 5 news stories about her on the front pages per day. And do her fans really like being called Swifties?"
If I've ever seen Margot Robbie in anything I am unaware of it.
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I'm a bit tired of the Barbie hype myself. It may be a good movie (my gf saw it and loved it) and that's cool, but its like everywhere right now and I really don't care for it. Plus I'm a bit sick of hollywood continuing to milk stuff from my childhood. I'd like to see Oppenheimer one day, but I have no desire to go to a movie theater.
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Today's exasperating entry:
The incessant linking of the Oppenheimer and Barbie movies. If I see "Barbenheimer" one more time, I might throw something.
The constant promotion of that Barbie flick has been crazy over the top, but I will never complain about having to look at Margot Robbie.
Word.
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Sorry, but I think she looks weird in the clips. Especially her face.
You misspelled "hot as bejeezus".
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Today's exasperating entry:
The incessant linking of the Oppenheimer and Barbie movies. If I see "Barbenheimer" one more time, I might throw something.
I think it's fun.
The memes have been great.
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Today's exasperating entry:
The incessant linking of the Oppenheimer and Barbie movies. If I see "Barbenheimer" one more time, I might throw something.
The constant promotion of that Barbie flick has been crazy over the top, but I will never complain about having to look at Margot Robbie.
I don't disagree with that at all (and Tim, I think the movie was shot in a way to give an uber-polished look, so that may be what you're seeing, although it does look like she might not shy away from Botox). I don't even mind the promotion of each movie on its own. It's the weird linking of the two. I've actually seen posts (not here, of course) saying things like, "Wouldn't it be great if there were an episode [of The Big Bang Theory] where the guys went to see Oppenheimer and the girls went to see Barbie, but [one of the guys who was portrayed as being a bit effeminate] wanted to see both movies...." Blah blah blah....
If I've ever seen Margot Robbie in anything I am unaware of it.
The only thing I know for sure I saw her in was the Pan Am TV show from about 10 years ago, but it's possible I also saw one of the movies in which she played Harley Quinn.
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RANT.
People. People who are driving straight, have the right-of-way. If you turn and cut off a car, and said car beeps at you, flipping the driver off of the car that you cut off is not smart. How about just putting your hand up, and when he pulls along side, saying "my bad, I'm sorry," instead of telling the guy who did nothing wrong to "fuck off."
Unreal this past weekend. This happened twice, and is happening a lot more now. People have no regard for anything. This last incident, I was driving and some dude, just made an abrupt left hand turn and almost hit me. I beeped. He flipped me off. We both turn right and are at a light, with me going left, him going right, he starts cursing at me. I roll down my window and say "buddy, you cut me off when I was driving straight." He tells me to go fuck myself. Unreal. And that was the second time over the weekend.
That's two examples of a recurring problem. People have absolutely no regard for others on the roadways. No signals, no patience, no nothing. WTF has happened since the pandemic, man? I just don't get people any longer. And forgive me, those of you in your 20s and 30s, but it seems heavily skewed to that age bracket, at least the many incidents I have seen or been a part of, and based nothing on my subjective take on the peoples' ages.
But Christ, when you fuck up, just put up a hand, and mouth "sorry, my bad." It diffuses shit, and you come off as sincere instead of like an entitled asshat.
/rant
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Right there with you, Brian, and I submit it was happening long before the pandemic.
Not to stereotype, but I've seen this stuff more with the 35+ crowd - and particularly those who drive large pickup trucks. In my neighborhood, we also get the younger crowd on their e-bikes, who ride around as though they don't have to comply with stop signs and what-not.
Not really related to the issue you described, but there's a long street in my neighborhood that I drive on for over a mile if I come home a certain way. It's a residential street, so the speed limit is 25mph. I usually set my cruise control at 27, but if someone wants to hug the speed limit, that's fine. Occasionally, however, we get someone who thinks 20mph is racing speed. I once sat behind such a person - as best as I could tell from behind, he was at least as old as I, and probably closer to 60). He probably sat around 18mph the whole way. I'm confident I was at least two car lengths behind, but he spent more than half the trip with his middle finger out the window (as though I was following too closely). I was mostly amused that he had that sort of perseverance to leave his arm out the window that long.
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You guys both know I'm with you 100% on your rants. I had occasion to have to drive about 60 miles each way Saturday, Sunday and Monday of this week, and the number of asshats on the road... I lost count. From the college girl in the left lane going 55 while she merrily texts away, to the woman who cuts me off on the highway, then when I go around her is ranting like a crazy woman giving me the finger for honestly God knows what (I let her in; I passed her on the left), to the people that think flicking the lights for them to move over is tantamount to buggering their sister at the Thanksgiving Day table.
I've had enough of people for a while, for real.
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It feels like that's in all aspects of life now. People are "me first" with attitudes in everything. Very little hold doors for each other and when you do,, half the time there is no "Thank you.'
Try pushing a cart in the grocery store. That will give you road rage without actually driving.
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Unless I'm within arm's length of the door, I'd prefer people not hold doors for me. It kind of drives me a bit nuts when I'm like 50+ feet from the door and someone just stands there holding it, making me feel all rushed.
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Unless I'm within arm's length of the door, I'd prefer people not hold doors for me. It kind of drives me a bit nuts when I'm like 50+ feet from the door and someone just stands there holding it, making me feel all rushed.
There's definitely a limit on this distance. My problem, as I've happened to have held the door for too long in cases before, is Ill turn around to see if I need to hold it and then make eye contact with that person too far off and then I feel like I should hold it because of that contact. But you certainly feel rushed when youre on the other end of it and I do agree with you here.
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Unless I'm within arm's length of the door, I'd prefer people not hold doors for me. It kind of drives me a bit nuts when I'm like 50+ feet from the door and someone just stands there holding it, making me feel all rushed.
Let's use common sense here and not break down how many steps is allowed like DTF can only do. :lol
Reasonable length and no thank you when you hold the door or not holding the door when you are right behind a person.
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Unless I'm within arm's length of the door, I'd prefer people not hold doors for me. It kind of drives me a bit nuts when I'm like 50+ feet from the door and someone just stands there holding it, making me feel all rushed.
Let's use common sense here and not break down how many steps is allowed like DTF can only do. :lol
Reasonable length and no thank you when you hold the door or not holding the door when you are right behind a person.
If I think someone is holding the door for me and I'm not that close, I'll usually just put up my hand and say, I'm good. Once inside, I may send out a Thank You.
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Exactly Tim. I do that all the time when I'm far back.
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Yeah, and it's never made me feel rushed. I'll likely pick up my pace to try and reciprocate the gesture by not dragging my ass, but I've never had an issue with it.
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Sorry, but I think she looks weird in the clips. Especially her face.
You misspelled "hot as bejeezus".
I wouldn't kick her out of my bed for eating crackers, that's for sure. :P
As for the combination of promotion for the 2 movies - with the writer's strike and now actors joining in, promotion for most movies by actors have gone silent. So I think what we are witnessing is less of one type of promotion and more of another.
For example, Marc Maron interviewed Cillian Murphy before the strike and so he was able to air the interview post strike as it was already in the can. If he had interviewed Murphy after the strike, he would not have been able to talk about the film.
FTR, it was a pretty great interview.
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Sorry, but I think she looks weird in the clips. Especially her face.
You misspelled "hot as bejeezus".
I wouldn't kick her out of my bed for eating crackers, that's for sure. :P
As for the combination of promotion for the 2 movies - with the writer's strike and now actors joining in, promotion for most movies by actors have gone silent. So I think what we are witnessing is less of one type of promotion and more of another.
For example, Marc Maron interviewed Cillian Murphy before the strike and so he was able to air the interview post strike as it was already in the can. If he had interviewed Murphy after the strike, he would not have been able to talk about the film.
FTR, it was a pretty great interview.
HUGE Maron fan here, and I really feel like he's come into his own over the past few years (really, since Lynn died).
The Cillian interview was next-level good.
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Sorry, but I think she looks weird in the clips. Especially her face.
You misspelled "hot as bejeezus".
I wouldn't kick her out of my bed for eating crackers, that's for sure. :P
As for the combination of promotion for the 2 movies - with the writer's strike and now actors joining in, promotion for most movies by actors have gone silent. So I think what we are witnessing is less of one type of promotion and more of another.
For example, Marc Maron interviewed Cillian Murphy before the strike and so he was able to air the interview post strike as it was already in the can. If he had interviewed Murphy after the strike, he would not have been able to talk about the film.
FTR, it was a pretty great interview.
HUGE Maron fan here, and I really feel like he's come into his own over the past few years (really, since Lynn died).
The Cillian interview was next-level good.
I couldn't agree more. Maron was definitely a huge factor for me surviving the pandemic. I love that guy like he's my family. :heart
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Sorry, but I think she looks weird in the clips. Especially her face.
You misspelled "hot as bejeezus".
I wouldn't kick her out of my bed for eating crackers, that's for sure. :P
As for the combination of promotion for the 2 movies - with the writer's strike and now actors joining in, promotion for most movies by actors have gone silent. So I think what we are witnessing is less of one type of promotion and more of another.
For example, Marc Maron interviewed Cillian Murphy before the strike and so he was able to air the interview post strike as it was already in the can. If he had interviewed Murphy after the strike, he would not have been able to talk about the film.
FTR, it was a pretty great interview.
HUGE Maron fan here, and I really feel like he's come into his own over the past few years (really, since Lynn died).
The Cillian interview was next-level good.
I couldn't agree more. Maron was definitely a huge factor for me surviving the pandemic. I love that guy like he's my family. :heart
Ditto–I'll never forget the podcast where he disclosed that Lynn had passed. I remember thinking, "why are you even podcasting right now???"
But then, as the weeks went on, I totally got it and understood (and appreciated) that he was working through his grief the only way he knew how.
Super relatable moment that resonated with me (as I was dealing with my own share of personal bs at the time)
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Sorry, but I think she looks weird in the clips. Especially her face.
You misspelled "hot as bejeezus".
I wouldn't kick her out of my bed for eating crackers, that's for sure. :P
As for the combination of promotion for the 2 movies - with the writer's strike and now actors joining in, promotion for most movies by actors have gone silent. So I think what we are witnessing is less of one type of promotion and more of another.
For example, Marc Maron interviewed Cillian Murphy before the strike and so he was able to air the interview post strike as it was already in the can. If he had interviewed Murphy after the strike, he would not have been able to talk about the film.
FTR, it was a pretty great interview.
HUGE Maron fan here, and I really feel like he's come into his own over the past few years (really, since Lynn died).
The Cillian interview was next-level good.
I couldn't agree more. Maron was definitely a huge factor for me surviving the pandemic. I love that guy like he's my family. :heart
Ditto–I'll never forget the podcast where he disclosed that Lynn had passed. I remember thinking, "why are you even podcasting right now???"
But then, as the weeks went on, I totally got it and understood (and appreciated) that he was working through his grief the only way he knew how.
Super relatable moment that resonated with me (as I was dealing with my own share of personal bs at the time)
And it wasn't just the podcast. I don't know if you caught it - but he'd do live IG broadcasts almost daily. The ones the month after Lynn died were so raw. I don't know how he did it, but like you said, he did what he does and put it out there. I guess I never really thought about this before, but when my sister died 18 months later, I drew on some of those lessons he taught me. He helped. His pandemic livestreams were amazing. The world was on fire and we got to listen to his record collection, enjoy coffee and cats with him, and heard his thoughts on life. That guy is a mensch in every sense of the word.
I'm sorry to be squatting on this thread but do you have a favorite interview? So many to choose from of course.
Definitely one of mine was with Mandy Patinkin.
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Unless I'm within arm's length of the door, I'd prefer people not hold doors for me. It kind of drives me a bit nuts when I'm like 50+ feet from the door and someone just stands there holding it, making me feel all rushed.
There's definitely a limit on this distance. My problem, as I've happened to have held the door for too long in cases before, is Ill turn around to see if I need to hold it and then make eye contact with that person too far off and then I feel like I should hold it because of that contact. But you certainly feel rushed when youre on the other end of it and I do agree with you here.
This is me to a T. But I have no problem moving on if the person waves me off. It's not about the door itself, it's about thinking about someone else and making that sort of connection, even if it's fleeting.
It's like I always say: Willie... we're really good at the big, virtue signaling gestures (which I now avoid like the plague) and we suck at the little interpersonal ones (which I now go out of my way to try to foster).
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RANT.
People. People who are driving straight, have the right-of-way. If you turn and cut off a car, and said car beeps at you, flipping the driver off of the car that you cut off is not smart. How about just putting your hand up, and when he pulls along side, saying "my bad, I'm sorry," instead of telling the guy who did nothing wrong to "fuck off."
Unreal this past weekend. This happened twice, and is happening a lot more now. People have no regard for anything. This last incident, I was driving and some dude, just made an abrupt left hand turn and almost hit me. I beeped. He flipped me off. We both turn right and are at a light, with me going left, him going right, he starts cursing at me. I roll down my window and say "buddy, you cut me off when I was driving straight." He tells me to go fuck myself. Unreal. And that was the second time over the weekend.
That's two examples of a recurring problem. People have absolutely no regard for others on the roadways. No signals, no patience, no nothing. WTF has happened since the pandemic, man? I just don't get people any longer. And forgive me, those of you in your 20s and 30s, but it seems heavily skewed to that age bracket, at least the many incidents I have seen or been a part of, and based nothing on my subjective take on the peoples' ages.
But Christ, when you fuck up, just put up a hand, and mouth "sorry, my bad." It diffuses shit, and you come off as sincere instead of like an entitled asshat.
/rant
I had a guy (yes, in a truck) flip me off yesterday because I wouldn't run a red light for his convenience. The light in front of us had turned yellow, and while 95/100 times I step on it, the car in front of me was lazily turning right. I had to slow down dramatically, and then I'd have had to stomp on it just as the light was turning red. Hell, I'd do that 50/50 times, but didn't there. Guy flipped me off because he had to wait for the light to change to make his right.
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Unless I'm within arm's length of the door, I'd prefer people not hold doors for me. It kind of drives me a bit nuts when I'm like 50+ feet from the door and someone just stands there holding it, making me feel all rushed.
There's definitely a limit on this distance. My problem, as I've happened to have held the door for too long in cases before, is Ill turn around to see if I need to hold it and then make eye contact with that person too far off and then I feel like I should hold it because of that contact. But you certainly feel rushed when youre on the other end of it and I do agree with you here.
This is me to a T. But I have no problem moving on if the person waves me off. It's not about the door itself, it's about thinking about someone else and making that sort of connection, even if it's fleeting.
It's like I always say: Willie... we're really good at the big, virtue signaling gestures (which I now avoid like the plague) and we suck at the little interpersonal ones (which I now go out of my way to try to foster).
Texans have been holding doors for one another for long enough that we've got a pretty good grasp of the rules. Not generally a problem down here.
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RANT.
People. People who are driving straight, have the right-of-way. If you turn and cut off a car, and said car beeps at you, flipping the driver off of the car that you cut off is not smart. How about just putting your hand up, and when he pulls along side, saying "my bad, I'm sorry," instead of telling the guy who did nothing wrong to "fuck off."
Unreal this past weekend. This happened twice, and is happening a lot more now. People have no regard for anything. This last incident, I was driving and some dude, just made an abrupt left hand turn and almost hit me. I beeped. He flipped me off. We both turn right and are at a light, with me going left, him going right, he starts cursing at me. I roll down my window and say "buddy, you cut me off when I was driving straight." He tells me to go fuck myself. Unreal. And that was the second time over the weekend.
That's two examples of a recurring problem. People have absolutely no regard for others on the roadways. No signals, no patience, no nothing. WTF has happened since the pandemic, man? I just don't get people any longer. And forgive me, those of you in your 20s and 30s, but it seems heavily skewed to that age bracket, at least the many incidents I have seen or been a part of, and based nothing on my subjective take on the peoples' ages.
But Christ, when you fuck up, just put up a hand, and mouth "sorry, my bad." It diffuses shit, and you come off as sincere instead of like an entitled asshat.
/rant
I had a guy (yes, in a truck) flip me off yesterday because I wouldn't run a red light for his convenience. The light in front of us had turned yellow, and while 95/100 times I step on it, the car in front of me was lazily turning right. I had to slow down dramatically, and then I'd have had to stomp on it just as the light was turning red. Hell, I'd do that 50/50 times, but didn't there. Guy flipped me off because he had to wait for the light to change to make his right.
YOUR FAULT!
I actually caught myself yesterday in a situation where I was pretty mad, but maybe not so rightfully so. Driving through a rest stop and while I was turning right, there was no stop sign, so I didn't stop and the person coming the other way I guess had to hit their breaks and honked at me which gave me an angry reaction, but that person probably had some right as I was the one turning, but I didn't have a stop sign and because a truck was blocking my view, I didn't see that person until they hit their horn. I probably should have just waved it off and took responsibility on that one. Instead the lady continued to tailgate me until i took my foot off the gas, looked at her in my mirror and said "relax" with an angry face (no idea if she could read my lips) but she backed off and hopefully put more thought into the situation like I did.
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RANT.
People. People who are driving straight, have the right-of-way. If you turn and cut off a car, and said car beeps at you, flipping the driver off of the car that you cut off is not smart. How about just putting your hand up, and when he pulls along side, saying "my bad, I'm sorry," instead of telling the guy who did nothing wrong to "fuck off."
Unreal this past weekend. This happened twice, and is happening a lot more now. People have no regard for anything. This last incident, I was driving and some dude, just made an abrupt left hand turn and almost hit me. I beeped. He flipped me off. We both turn right and are at a light, with me going left, him going right, he starts cursing at me. I roll down my window and say "buddy, you cut me off when I was driving straight." He tells me to go fuck myself. Unreal. And that was the second time over the weekend.
That's two examples of a recurring problem. People have absolutely no regard for others on the roadways. No signals, no patience, no nothing. WTF has happened since the pandemic, man? I just don't get people any longer. And forgive me, those of you in your 20s and 30s, but it seems heavily skewed to that age bracket, at least the many incidents I have seen or been a part of, and based nothing on my subjective take on the peoples' ages.
But Christ, when you fuck up, just put up a hand, and mouth "sorry, my bad." It diffuses shit, and you come off as sincere instead of like an entitled asshat.
/rant
I had a guy (yes, in a truck) flip me off yesterday because I wouldn't run a red light for his convenience. The light in front of us had turned yellow, and while 95/100 times I step on it, the car in front of me was lazily turning right. I had to slow down dramatically, and then I'd have had to stomp on it just as the light was turning red. Hell, I'd do that 50/50 times, but didn't there. Guy flipped me off because he had to wait for the light to change to make his right.
YOUR FAULT!
I actually caught myself yesterday in a situation where I was pretty mad, but maybe not so rightfully so. Driving through a rest stop and while I was turning right, there was no stop sign, so I didn't stop and the person coming the other way I guess had to hit their breaks and honked at me which gave me an angry reaction, but that person probably had some right as I was the one turning, but I didn't have a stop sign and because a truck was blocking my view, I didn't see that person until they hit their horn. I probably should have just waved it off and took responsibility on that one. Instead the lady continued to tailgate me until i took my foot off the gas, looked at her in my mirror and said "relax" with an angry face (no idea if she could read my lips) but she backed off and hopefully put more thought into the situation like I did.
Something I've learned is that a whole lot of people who get all road-raged up aren't really thinking at all about the circumstances. I think it's largely instinctive for people (and I'm one) to become particularly frustrated when people don't do what they would do. Most of the people who'd flip you off for something like I did would likely think very differently after a minute and reconsideration. When I get all pissed off at other drivers I usually try to put myself in their shoes and I almost always decide that my absolute seething hatred of them is probably a little be unwarranted. :lol
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I hate when people turn in front of you when you're obviously driving a faster speed than they should have turned into. So now you have to hit the brakes a bit while they get themselves situated. I always sigh and say "justify your turn, fucking fuck!" and then just try to let it roll off my shoulders.
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I hate when people turn in front of you when you're obviously driving a faster speed than they should have turned into. So now you have to hit the brakes a bit while they get themselves situated. I always sigh and say "justify your turn, fucking fuck!" and then just try to let it roll off my shoulders.
Whenever I mistakenly do this (and we all do) and realize it, I hit the gas hard for two reasons - I don’t want to get ass ended, and I hate it when someone does it to me and takes their sweet effing time getting back up to speed. Drives me bonkers. Bonus points if it’s a right turn, there’s literally no one else driving behind you for 1/4 mile, and all they had to do was wait 2-3 more seconds to let you pass before pulling out.
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You're not wrong, we all make mistakes. Your last sentence is what I was really referencing for the most part.
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I hate when people turn in front of you when you're obviously driving a faster speed than they should have turned into. So now you have to hit the brakes a bit while they get themselves situated. I always sigh and say "justify your turn, fucking fuck!" and then just try to let it roll off my shoulders.
Whenever I mistakenly do this (and we all do) and realize it, I hit the gas hard for two reasons - I don’t want to get ass ended, and I hate it when someone does it to me and takes their sweet effing time getting back up to speed. Drives me bonkers. Bonus points if it’s a right turn, there’s literally no one else driving behind you for 1/4 mile, and all they had to do was wait 2-3 more seconds to let you pass before pulling out.
I'm patient as you get up to speed, but I live in a town of Subaru's and more often than not the person pulling out is NOT getting up to speed, but pulls out and goes their own merry way. It takes every fibre of my being to not pull right up and ride the bumper until they decide they've reached their destination.
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I love when people do that maybe go what they think the speed limit is but after passing 2-3 speed limit signs showing 10-15 mph faster than what they're going they still don't speed up. They're either doing it on purpose or aren't aware enough to notice the increasingly frustrated convoy that has built up directly behind them.
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This lady and her dog can fuck right off.
(https://i.imgur.com/WfEZPv2.jpg)
I took this picture at a light. Dogs do not belong in the front seat. If your dog can't drive, it shouldn't be behind the wheel. When I'm in charge, my Auto Safety Policy will definitely include a No Dogs In The Front Seat clause.
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Here's some fun information for you....
https://news.orvis.com/dogs/does-your-state-require-dogs-be-harnessed-in-the-car
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The dog sensed a bad person who doesn't return carriages to the cart return.
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This lady and her dog can fuck right off.
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I took this picture at a light. Dogs do not belong in the front seat. If your dog can't drive, it shouldn't be behind the wheel. When I'm in charge, my Auto Safety Policy will definitely include a No Dogs In The Front Seat clause.
Not so much the dog, but I'm right there with you. Fucking just leave your dog at home.
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This lady and her dog can fuck right off.
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I took this picture at a light. Dogs do not belong in the front seat. If your dog can't drive, it shouldn't be behind the wheel. When I'm in charge, my Auto Safety Policy will definitely include a No Dogs In The Front Seat clause.
Not so much the dog, but I'm right there with you. Fucking just leave your dog at home.
Oh you know it. We went to Lowe's a few weeks ago, and one dog puked in the outdoor garden area, and another dog pissed on a tree in the parking lot. WTF? What if I pissed on a tree in the parking lot?
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This lady and her dog can fuck right off.
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I took this picture at a light. Dogs do not belong in the front seat. If your dog can't drive, it shouldn't be behind the wheel. When I'm in charge, my Auto Safety Policy will definitely include a No Dogs In The Front Seat clause.
Not so much the dog, but I'm right there with you. Fucking just leave your dog at home.
Depends on the type of place you reside. In an urban city, I could agree with you. In a Rural town with a lot of area for the dog to freely roam, I disagree with you. There are also interesting terms we have in regards where I reside. Rez Dogs are able to roam on the rez. It's very fascinating that even Dogs are now being discussed in terms of how they should live. :lol :lol
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This lady and her dog can fuck right off.
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I took this picture at a light. Dogs do not belong in the front seat. If your dog can't drive, it shouldn't be behind the wheel. When I'm in charge, my Auto Safety Policy will definitely include a No Dogs In The Front Seat clause.
Not so much the dog, but I'm right there with you. Fucking just leave your dog at home.
Oh you know it. We went to Lowe's a few weeks ago, and one dog puked in the outdoor garden area, and another dog pissed on a tree in the parking lot. WTF? What if I pissed on a tree in the parking lot?
I thought only service dogs were allowed in places like Lowe's? and also, it's a fucking tree, and dogs need to pee too. SO, you would just pee on yourself rather than relieving yourself from a natural instinct? :lol
But I also do understand how some people are with their pets. Dogs are very interesting since we humans have supposedly domesticated them.
It just reminds me of this...
Reverend Lovejoy walks his dog (https://youtu.be/R5r--RjStS4)
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I see no evidence that the dog isn’t driving.
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This lady and her dog can fuck right off.
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I took this picture at a light. Dogs do not belong in the front seat. If your dog can't drive, it shouldn't be behind the wheel. When I'm in charge, my Auto Safety Policy will definitely include a No Dogs In The Front Seat clause.
Not so much the dog, but I'm right there with you. Fucking just leave your dog at home.
Depends on the type of place you reside. In an urban city, I could agree with you. In a Rural town with a lot of area for the dog to freely roam, I disagree with you. There are also interesting terms we have in regards where I reside. Rez Dogs are able to roam on the rez. It's very fascinating that even Dogs are now being discussed in terms of how they should live. :lol :lol
I have no problem with the bolded. But dogs don't belong on stores and on people's laps while they're driving. People put dogs in the carriages at the grocery store. WTF? People put their kids and their food in there.
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Oh you know it. We went to Lowe's a few weeks ago, and one dog puked in the outdoor garden area, and another dog pissed on a tree in the parking lot. WTF? What if I pissed on a tree in the parking lot?
I thought only service dogs were allowed in places like Lowe's? and also, it's a fucking tree, and dogs need to pee too. SO, you would just pee on yourself rather than relieving yourself from a natural instinct? :lol
I just can't whip it out and relieve myself in the parking lot at Lowes. And Service Dogs ....this takes me to a larger gripe, but everyone wants their fucking fido with them wherever they go. A service animal, or even a prescribed comfort dog should have an orange vest on with a visible license.
Business owners are afraid to confront anyone with a dog because they'll probably end up on someone's tiktiok feed as discriminating against people that need comfort animals and how they don't understand mental health.
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This lady and her dog can fuck right off.
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I took this picture at a light. Dogs do not belong in the front seat. If your dog can't drive, it shouldn't be behind the wheel. When I'm in charge, my Auto Safety Policy will definitely include a No Dogs In The Front Seat clause.
Not so much the dog, but I'm right there with you. Fucking just leave your dog at home.
Depends on the type of place you reside. In an urban city, I could agree with you. In a Rural town with a lot of area for the dog to freely roam, I disagree with you. There are also interesting terms we have in regards where I reside. Rez Dogs are able to roam on the rez. It's very fascinating that even Dogs are now being discussed in terms of how they should live. :lol :lol
I have no problem with the bolded. But dogs don't belong on stores and on people's laps while they're driving. People put dogs in the carriages at the grocery store. WTF? People put their kids and their food in there.
That's why the stores should be implementing their own standards of not allowing dogs, especially in grocery stores. But yet, have you seen what kids have done to those carts as well... :lol
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When I was growing up, it was always posted at the store that there were No Dogs Allowed. But owners, and especially managers are very weary of enforcing anything like that now.
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I've been noticing that a lot more too.
Especially the people with dogs in their laps.
More so for me, it's about how people are treating dogs, especially lap dogs, treating them as if they're children. :biggrin:
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Great read this. :lol
I agree, just leave the fucking dog at home. We have people try and bring dogs in at the aquatic centres and definitely don't allow it. Like, WTF? We can't say no to service dogs but as Tim said, they have an orange vest and shit. I'm still not convinced that some of the people that have those need them, but I better not go there.
The other thing is we have people in summer bring their dogs leave them in the hot as fuck car and come for a swim! I always find who it is and kick their ass out.
The other week I saw three different fucking people with dogs in the trolley at the hardware store. 3 different people in the one visit. I was there 10 minutes. One woman had the dogs bed and blanket and shit set up in the trolley, fuck off.
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This lady and her dog can fuck right off.
(https://i.imgur.com/WfEZPv2.jpg)
I took this picture at a light. Dogs do not belong in the front seat. If your dog can't drive, it shouldn't be behind the wheel. When I'm in charge, my Auto Safety Policy will definitely include a No Dogs In The Front Seat clause.
The other thing with this picture, is the complete fucking lack of care people have for their animals. This woman thinks she loves the dog taking it with her and having it on her lap and shit, but what if she gets in a head on collision, that mutt is the first thing flying out the fucking window.
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but what if she gets in a head on collision, that mutt is the first thing flying out the fucking window.
I thought the same thing while I was sitting there. And the thing is, while that dog is flying through the air, some guy would probably kill a kid trying to avoid it.
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but what if she gets in a head on collision, that mutt is the first thing flying out the fucking window.
I thought the same thing while I was sitting there. And the thing is, while that dog is flying through the air, some guy would probably kill a kid trying to avoid it.
That's a great bloody point. Or get into a head on himself and injure some other innocent person.
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It's pretty funny though how the dog is looking straight at you. Like he knows he's pissing you off. :lol
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It's pretty funny though how the dog is looking straight at you. Like he knows he's pissing you off. :lol
He's even sticking his tongue out at him... :biggrin:
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It's pretty funny though how the dog is looking straight at you. Like he knows he's pissing you off. :lol
He's even sticking his tongue out at him... :biggrin:
Haha, I thought that too but zooming in I think it's just different colour fur maybe?
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I see no evidence that the dog isn’t driving.
There's definitely a bitch driving, not sure if it's the dog though.
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Eh, when I was a kid, we always went for car rides with the dog - the dog loved it, even sitting just like that as my dad drove. But we never brought the dog INTO a store. We might get ice cream, but the dog always waited outside with the family, or we might be going to a family member's house, so the dog could play with their dog.
I don't mind when people bring their dogs in the car, but I do agree that there are places where dogs should definitely not go, regardless of whether the owner thinks that they are well-behaved dogs, or if the dogs are "their children."
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If that person's driving was an issue, yeah, I'd be pissed too. Otherwise, I don't think I'd care about a dog in the front like that. It's a small dog. Should it be allowed? I'd say no, but we see people on their phones all the time and that's against the law. Most people are just shit drivers to begin wiht so my annoyance level would entirely depend on that persons driving first before caring about the dog.
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If that person's driving was an issue, yeah, I'd be pissed too. Otherwise, I don't think I'd care about a dog in the front like that. It's a small dog. Should it be allowed? I'd say no, but we see people on their phones all the time and that's against the law. Most people are just shit drivers to begin wiht so my annoyance level would entirely depend on that persons driving first before caring about the dog.
I had to read this a couple of times but you are saying the it shouldn’t be allowed. That’s good.
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This lady and her dog can fuck right off.
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I took this picture at a light. Dogs do not belong in the front seat. If your dog can't drive, it shouldn't be behind the wheel. When I'm in charge, my Auto Safety Policy will definitely include a No Dogs In The Front Seat clause.
Not so much the dog, but I'm right there with you. Fucking just leave your dog at home.
Oh you know it. We went to Lowe's a few weeks ago, and one dog puked in the outdoor garden area, and another dog pissed on a tree in the parking lot. WTF? What if I pissed on a tree in the parking lot?
Then you'd be eligible to move to San Francisco. :biggrin:
This lady and her dog can fuck right off.
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I took this picture at a light. Dogs do not belong in the front seat. If your dog can't drive, it shouldn't be behind the wheel. When I'm in charge, my Auto Safety Policy will definitely include a No Dogs In The Front Seat clause.
Not so much the dog, but I'm right there with you. Fucking just leave your dog at home.
Depends on the type of place you reside. In an urban city, I could agree with you. In a Rural town with a lot of area for the dog to freely roam, I disagree with you. There are also interesting terms we have in regards where I reside. Rez Dogs are able to roam on the rez. It's very fascinating that even Dogs are now being discussed in terms of how they should live. :lol :lol
I have no idea what a "Rez Dog" is (some sort of rapper?), but I don't really follow this. Obviously, if you're going to a park or something to play with the dog, you have to have the dog with you, but it should NOT be in the driver's lap. And dogs roaming around in a rural area are fine, but that's not what's depicted in Tim's picutre. Otherwise, leave the dog at home.
And Service Dogs ....this takes me to a larger gripe, but everyone wants their fucking fido with them wherever they go. A service animal, or even a prescribed comfort dog should have an orange vest on with a visible license.
Business owners are afraid to confront anyone with a dog because they'll probably end up on someone's tiktiok feed as discriminating against people that need comfort animals and how they don't understand mental health.
This x1000. I know people who raise and train legit service dogs. That's awesome, and people who are using genuine service dogs usually have the dog properly vested. But fuck "comfort dogs."
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Oh you know it. We went to Lowe's a few weeks ago, and one dog puked in the outdoor garden area, and another dog pissed on a tree in the parking lot. WTF? What if I pissed on a tree in the parking lot?
I thought only service dogs were allowed in places like Lowe's? and also, it's a fucking tree, and dogs need to pee too. SO, you would just pee on yourself rather than relieving yourself from a natural instinct? :lol
I just can't whip it out and relieve myself in the parking lot at Lowes. And Service Dogs ....this takes me to a larger gripe, but everyone wants their fucking fido with them wherever they go. A service animal, or even a prescribed comfort dog should have an orange vest on with a visible license.
Business owners are afraid to confront anyone with a dog because they'll probably end up on someone's tiktiok feed as discriminating against people that need comfort animals and how they don't understand mental health.
Even though I'm the resident "mental wellness" guy, I'm trending toward being with you on that. It seems to me that more often than not, the "service dogs" are just family pets brought along for the ride. (I was in the Charlotte airport a while back - before COVID - and a woman came in the bar and sat next to me and ordered a salad; the bartender didn't see her dog with her, and after the salad was delivered said "we only allow service animals in here" and the woman said "she is a service animal". Bartenders said "do you have her papers?" Lady upped and left, salad uneaten (and unpaid for).)
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Oh you know it. We went to Lowe's a few weeks ago, and one dog puked in the outdoor garden area, and another dog pissed on a tree in the parking lot. WTF? What if I pissed on a tree in the parking lot?
I thought only service dogs were allowed in places like Lowe's? and also, it's a fucking tree, and dogs need to pee too. SO, you would just pee on yourself rather than relieving yourself from a natural instinct? :lol
I just can't whip it out and relieve myself in the parking lot at Lowes. And Service Dogs ....this takes me to a larger gripe, but everyone wants their fucking fido with them wherever they go. A service animal, or even a prescribed comfort dog should have an orange vest on with a visible license.
Business owners are afraid to confront anyone with a dog because they'll probably end up on someone's tiktiok feed as discriminating against people that need comfort animals and how they don't understand mental health.
Even though I'm the resident "mental wellness" guy, I'm trending toward being with you on that. It seems to me that more often than not, the "service dogs" are just family pets brought along for the ride. (I was in the Charlotte airport a while back - before COVID - and a woman came in the bar and sat next to me and ordered a salad; the bartender didn't see her dog with her, and after the salad was delivered said "we only allow service animals in here" and the woman said "she is a service animal". Bartenders said "do you have her papers?" Lady upped and left, salad uneaten (and unpaid for).)
Yeah, I'd say that's on the bartender.
I guess I'm going to be the outlier here. Not at all unusual, but odd given the topic. Why should I care if somebody brings their dog to Lowes? I like dogs, and I don't recall ever seeing people with poorly behaved dogs in the store. Down here, at least, the people who do that know their dogs to be well behaved and not a problem. Seriously, given a choice between a dog and a kid shopping at the store I'll take the dog 100 times out of 100. Not only do I like dogs more, they're far, far less likely to actively bother me.
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Maybe if Tim pet a dog or a cat once in a while, he'd be less of a malcontent.
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I have no problems people bringing dogs places, as long as they're not taking dumps in doors or something.
And I say this as someone who went to the hospital after being attacked by a dog in a park.
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Oh you know it. We went to Lowe's a few weeks ago, and one dog puked in the outdoor garden area, and another dog pissed on a tree in the parking lot. WTF? What if I pissed on a tree in the parking lot?
I thought only service dogs were allowed in places like Lowe's? and also, it's a fucking tree, and dogs need to pee too. SO, you would just pee on yourself rather than relieving yourself from a natural instinct? :lol
I just can't whip it out and relieve myself in the parking lot at Lowes. And Service Dogs ....this takes me to a larger gripe, but everyone wants their fucking fido with them wherever they go. A service animal, or even a prescribed comfort dog should have an orange vest on with a visible license.
Business owners are afraid to confront anyone with a dog because they'll probably end up on someone's tiktiok feed as discriminating against people that need comfort animals and how they don't understand mental health.
Even though I'm the resident "mental wellness" guy, I'm trending toward being with you on that. It seems to me that more often than not, the "service dogs" are just family pets brought along for the ride. (I was in the Charlotte airport a while back - before COVID - and a woman came in the bar and sat next to me and ordered a salad; the bartender didn't see her dog with her, and after the salad was delivered said "we only allow service animals in here" and the woman said "she is a service animal". Bartenders said "do you have her papers?" Lady upped and left, salad uneaten (and unpaid for).)
Yeah, I'd say that's on the bartender.
I guess I'm going to be the outlier here. Not at all unusual, but odd given the topic. Why should I care if somebody brings their dog to Lowes? I like dogs, and I don't recall ever seeing people with poorly behaved dogs in the store. Down here, at least, the people who do that know their dogs to be well behaved and not a problem. Seriously, given a choice between a dog and a kid shopping at the store I'll take the dog 100 times out of 100. Not only do I like dogs more, they're far, far less likely to actively bother me.
Well, for me, the answer is the same as in the kid discussion that Harmony started: I don't mind the dogs either, I mind the ADULTS with the dogs. It bugs the crap out of me how many people believe the rules don't apply to them (but miraculously are STICKLERS for the rules when it's someone else, or Donald Trump! but that's another story).
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If that person's driving was an issue, yeah, I'd be pissed too. Otherwise, I don't think I'd care about a dog in the front like that. It's a small dog. Should it be allowed? I'd say no, but we see people on their phones all the time and that's against the law. Most people are just shit drivers to begin wiht so my annoyance level would entirely depend on that persons driving first before caring about the dog.
I had to read this a couple of times but you are saying the it shouldn’t be allowed. That’s good.
Yeah, it doesn't bother me as long as the person is driving fine, but it should be against the law (if it isn't).
Maybe if Tim pet a dog or a cat once in a while, he'd be less of a malcontent.
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I think the problem with the dogs in public is that it takes one bad dog to ruin it. Like 95% of the dogs I encounter in public don't bother me one bit, but there's always that one dog that's not well behaved. I can see it from Tim's perspective at work where the one dog causes issues and now it's a problem for the store, that kind of jades the experience where the rest of the dogs are a non issue.
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Sort of like a human, Marc. One bad apple..... LOL
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Sort of like a human, Marc. One bad apple..... LOL
Yup and I'm sure it comes back the owner of the dog.
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Always does. A pit bull doesn't have to be a mean machine. It can be a lovable dog. I never get why people would want to own vicious animals.
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Always does. A pit bull doesn't have to be a mean machine. It can be a lovable dog. I never get why people would want to own vicious animals.
To look and feel tough
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Always does. A pit bull doesn't have to be a mean machine. It can be a lovable dog. I never get why people would want to own vicious animals.
To participate in Dog Fighting.
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Always does. A pit bull doesn't have to be a mean machine. It can be a lovable dog. I never get why people would want to own vicious animals.
To participate in Dog Fighting.
And those owners should be jailed.
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Seriously, given a choice between a dog and a kid shopping at the store I'll take the dog 100 times out of 100. Not only do I like dogs more, they're far, far less likely to actively bother me.
+1000
I've never been a tad exasperated by a dog, but I'm continually exasperated by people.
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Always does. A pit bull doesn't have to be a mean machine. It can be a lovable dog. I never get why people would want to own vicious animals.
To participate in Dog Fighting.
And those owners should be jailed.
Yeah, it's straight up animal cruelty how they raise them. It's the reason why Rottweilers and Pitbulls get a bad rep of being aggressive dogs. Only due to them being rescue dogs.
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Mostly, trained that way Ben.
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Pit bulls. First off, being declared a dangerous breed was the best thing that could have ever happened to them. The truth is that they just don't have much to offer, aside from loyalty. There are smarter dogs. There are more fun dogs. There are a whole helluva lot of better looking dogs (all of them, I reckon). There are dogs you want for your kids. It goes on and on. Pit bulls rank between average and low end in nearly every quality, save for loyalty. To be fair, that is a damned important quality in a dog, but it's not like golden retrievers are just itching to stab you in the back or anything, and they bring plenty more to the table.
Secondly, I don't buy it's all about training and upbringing. There's something dark rolling around in those dogs' heads. Plenty of people have owned the sweetest, most caring dog in the world that suddenly up and mauled somebody to death (or ate their owner--plenty of grizzly examples). Very dear friends of mine own two, and I'm pretty fond of one of them (and likewise). It took the quiet one a while to cotton to me, but she did and she's thrilled to death whenever I show up for dinner. If things ever turned seriously bad, there's nobody in the world I'd rather have in my corner than that dog. I'm always mindful of that that dog's capable of, and the unpredictable nature of the shy, quiet dog, though. Suffice it to say, when I started hanging out with them regularly one of the things I did was to research how to kill a dog with your bare hands, just in case.
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Sure they are dogs that lean to tough, protective but how you are around them and how you train them helps towards how they handle themselves around other people.
You are aggressive, they are aggressive. You are gentle, loving, the will not be as aggressive.
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Pit bulls have a loose end upstairs.
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Family portraits. I hate everything about this process, but dealing with the photographer never fails to be exasperating.
Photographer: "Ok, now sir, please rotate your waist slightly to the left, tilt your head toward your wife, bend your right knee slightly, point your left food forward, separate your feet about 6 more inches, put one arm around your wife's shoulders, take her hand in your other, hold it about waist high, square your shoulders toward me but look slightly off to your right, that's great, now smile and look natural."
Me: "NOTHING ABOUT THE WAY I AM STANDING IS NATURAL."
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Family portraits. I hate everything about this process, but dealing with the photographer never fails to be exasperating.
Photographer: "Ok, now sir, please rotate your waist slightly to the left, tilt your head toward your wife, bend your right knee slightly, point your left food forward, separate your feet about 6 more inches, put one arm around your wife's shoulders, take her hand in your other, hold it about waist high, square your shoulders toward me but look slightly off to your right, that's great, now smile and look natural."
Me: "NOTHING ABOUT THE WAY I AM STANDING IS NATURAL."
Is it a photographer or a porn director?
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Family portraits. I hate everything about this process, but dealing with the photographer never fails to be exasperating.
Photographer: "Ok, now sir, please rotate your waist slightly to the left, tilt your head toward your wife, bend your right knee slightly, point your left food forward, separate your feet about 6 more inches, put one arm around your wife's shoulders, take her hand in your other, hold it about waist high, square your shoulders toward me but look slightly off to your right, that's great, now smile and look natural."
Me: "NOTHING ABOUT THE WAY I AM STANDING IS NATURAL."
Did you stand nuts to butts with mrs?
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Pit bulls. First off, being declared a dangerous breed was the best thing that could have ever happened to them. The truth is that they just don't have much to offer, aside from loyalty. There are smarter dogs. There are more fun dogs. There are a whole helluva lot of better looking dogs (all of them, I reckon). There are dogs you want for your kids. It goes on and on. Pit bulls rank between average and low end in nearly every quality, save for loyalty. To be fair, that is a damned important quality in a dog, but it's not like golden retrievers are just itching to stab you in the back or anything, and they bring plenty more to the table.
Secondly, I don't buy it's all about training and upbringing. There's something dark rolling around in those dogs' heads. Plenty of people have owned the sweetest, most caring dog in the world that suddenly up and mauled somebody to death (or ate their owner--plenty of grizzly examples).
Agreed 100% with every word of this.
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Secondly, I don't buy it's all about training and upbringing. There's something dark rolling around in those dogs' heads. Plenty of people have owned the sweetest, most caring dog in the world that suddenly up and mauled somebody to death (or ate their owner--plenty of grizzly examples).
Maybe they're just excellent judges of character.
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Pit bulls. First off, being declared a dangerous breed was the best thing that could have ever happened to them. The truth is that they just don't have much to offer, aside from loyalty. There are smarter dogs. There are more fun dogs. There are a whole helluva lot of better looking dogs (all of them, I reckon). There are dogs you want for your kids. It goes on and on. Pit bulls rank between average and low end in nearly every quality, save for loyalty. To be fair, that is a damned important quality in a dog, but it's not like golden retrievers are just itching to stab you in the back or anything, and they bring plenty more to the table.
Secondly, I don't buy it's all about training and upbringing. There's something dark rolling around in those dogs' heads. Plenty of people have owned the sweetest, most caring dog in the world that suddenly up and mauled somebody to death (or ate their owner--plenty of grizzly examples). Very dear friends of mine own two, and I'm pretty fond of one of them (and likewise). It took the quiet one a while to cotton to me, but she did and she's thrilled to death whenever I show up for dinner. If things ever turned seriously bad, there's nobody in the world I'd rather have in my corner than that dog. I'm always mindful of that that dog's capable of, and the unpredictable nature of the shy, quiet dog, though. Suffice it to say, when I started hanging out with them regularly one of the things I did was to research how to kill a dog with your bare hands, just in case.
I wouldn't have expected anything less, and it's one of the things I (deeply) admire about you. :)
I've hesitated to join this, because I didn't quite know what to say, but El Barto kind of captured it. I have four dogs (well, two, my daughter has one and my step son another) and two of the four have that "we're very nice, but we're DOGS" nature. Our Boston Terrier is the sweetest dog... until he's not. Yes, its very very rare that he's not, but he's a DOG.
But I really wanted to write about my step sons previous dog. Part pitbull, part boxer and maybe a lab in the woodpile somewhere. That dog was professionally trained, and very well behaved, but she could also be vicious. There were many people that never got on her good side; for some reason she loved me and so she came to stay with us while my son was at basic training. I loved her, and each night she would lay on the couch and put her head in my lap, or we would - and I'm being serious - hold hands (she would put her paw in my hand). But you could never forget she was a DOG and could be dangerous. I never put my face near hers, and we would always have the sun room open to put her in there if someone came by, or she got too aggressive. We finally had to put her down (cancer) and I miss her to this day, but dogs like that are a responsibility. They aren't dogs you can just let into the yard and let them run. Also, kids are a factor; kids don't always know to not stick their fingers in a dog's face, or whatever.
I think the point is, it's complicated; she was an amazing dog. Smart, well-behaved for the most part, but NOT a human. NOT an animal you could leave unattended. It's a responsibility having a dog like that.
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We've done a ton of dog sitting and fostering over the last 6 or 7 years. Well over 100 dogs have been through our home in that time. The pit bulls and pitty mixes are basically always delightful. We had one pit bull that we watched several time. Freaking huge and solid muscle. Looked like it could tear you in half in about 10 seconds if it wanted to (probably could have), but it was absolutely the sweetest dog in the world. His wagging tail practically left bruises he was so strong and always super happy to see you. The meanest dogs are the ones that are bred to be cute. We have a Teddy Bear (some sort of small fuzzy poodle mix, see photo below) at our home right now and that thing is evil. Third dog of that breed we've watched and they're all nasty and obnoxious. The only dog I've ever had bite me was one of these.
I hate these types of dogs. Really, really, really hate them. They're awful. Give me a pitty any day.
(https://www.dailypaws.com/thmb/CnrqyXX8nAMok52g-bMbeiCeVgA=/1500x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/bichon-frise-running-215771103-2000-bb9de6316100464e9f65b12ad3ebd488.jpg)
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Small dog syndrome. :lol
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Small dog syndrome. :lol
Large picture syndrome. ;D
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Small dog syndrome. :lol
Large picture syndrome. ;D
:lol.
That thing probably drives itself around the city, too.
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Small dog syndrome. :lol
Large picture syndrome. ;D
Sorry, just grabbed a random phot off the internet. Didn't know how to resize it here.
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Pit bulls.
Secondly, I don't buy it's all about training and upbringing. There's something dark rolling around in those dogs' heads.
I used to work with a woman whose husband was a county animal control employee. He told me that this is very true - pit bills retain their pack mentality. and that he would never, ever trust a pit bull, even if the owner says "oh, it's the nicest dog."
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I had to do my semi-annual anti-harassment training yesterday. We do it online now, and they've foolproofed it to where you actually have to pay attention. At least when it was live, we could have some fun with it. I think I've enjoyed some root canals more than this.
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Pit bulls. First off, being declared a dangerous breed was the best thing that could have ever happened to them. The truth is that they just don't have much to offer, aside from loyalty. There are smarter dogs. There are more fun dogs. There are a whole helluva lot of better looking dogs (all of them, I reckon). There are dogs you want for your kids. It goes on and on. Pit bulls rank between average and low end in nearly every quality, save for loyalty. To be fair, that is a damned important quality in a dog, but it's not like golden retrievers are just itching to stab you in the back or anything, and they bring plenty more to the table.
Secondly, I don't buy it's all about training and upbringing. There's something dark rolling around in those dogs' heads. Plenty of people have owned the sweetest, most caring dog in the world that suddenly up and mauled somebody to death (or ate their owner--plenty of grizzly examples). Very dear friends of mine own two, and I'm pretty fond of one of them (and likewise). It took the quiet one a while to cotton to me, but she did and she's thrilled to death whenever I show up for dinner. If things ever turned seriously bad, there's nobody in the world I'd rather have in my corner than that dog. I'm always mindful of that that dog's capable of, and the unpredictable nature of the shy, quiet dog, though. Suffice it to say, when I started hanging out with them regularly one of the things I did was to research how to kill a dog with your bare hands, just in case.
For awhile I was on the "it's the human owner problem" regarding pit bulls, but I believe you are right. There's just too many stories of good pit bulls and good owners who just randomly have the dog go wild on someone. My x had a rescue pitbull and it was such a good and loving dog. It made me think pitbulls could be fine pets, and they could be, but it's probably not worth the risk if you have kids.
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People who don't understand the concept of personal space or waiting their turn.
Grocery store, gas station, liquor store....people just push up next to you while you are checking out. I'm going to have to come up with some good material to get these mo-fos to back up. During the pandemic it was easy - I just started coughing. Of course the checkers didn't appreciate this one.
I think I'm going to try, "Oh are you paying for my stuff too?" and see how fast they move back.
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People who don't understand the concept of personal space or waiting their turn.
Grocery store, gas station, liquor store....people just push up next to you while you are checking out. I'm going to have to come up with some good material to get these mo-fos to back up. During the pandemic it was easy - I just started coughing. Of course the checkers didn't appreciate this one.
I think I'm going to try, "Oh are you paying for my stuff too?" and see how fast they move back.
Pick up your phone ... "Oh, you have the results? It's THAT contagious, really?!?!? I shouldn't be leaving the house?"
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People who don't understand the concept of personal space or waiting their turn.
Grocery store, gas station, liquor store....people just push up next to you while you are checking out. I'm going to have to come up with some good material to get these mo-fos to back up. During the pandemic it was easy - I just started coughing. Of course the checkers didn't appreciate this one.
I think I'm going to try, "Oh are you paying for my stuff too?" and see how fast they move back.
Pick up your phone ... "Oh, you have the results? It's THAT contagious, really?!?!? I shouldn't be leaving the house?"
yeah, but that's like the coughing scheme. The poor checkers will get that worried look. Their jobs are fucking hard enough, you know? :laugh:
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People who don't understand the concept of personal space or waiting their turn.
Grocery store, gas station, liquor store....people just push up next to you while you are checking out. I'm going to have to come up with some good material to get these mo-fos to back up. During the pandemic it was easy - I just started coughing. Of course the checkers didn't appreciate this one.
I think I'm going to try, "Oh are you paying for my stuff too?" and see how fast they move back.
A nice hard hip check has always worked for me.
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I've always gotten by with an abrupt turn and firm, "I'll be with you as soon as I'm finished here."
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True story - a few years before the pandemic I went to China with my family for a 2 week vacation. Culturally, personal space there is very different than it is here in the states. And waiting your turn in line can also look very different. I don't pretend to be an expert on the culture there, just my own observations.
The day we went to see the Terracotta Warriors in Xi'An stands out in my memory with regard to personal space. For those who have not seen the warriors, they are essentially funeral art and were an army of very ornate statues buried with the first Emperor of China to protect him in the afterlife. So when you go into the space where the dig has uncovered them, you look down into a pit at various places. It is a huge expanse - very cool to see.
So you stand with a bunch of people to inch your way up to piece of plexiglass to gaze down at the warriors in the pit. At one point, some Chinese guy literally pressed the entire length of his body against my backside. Needless to say, this made me quite uncomfortable. Thankfully, another cultural aspect of Chinese life is carrying an umbrella to use for protection against rain but also as protection against the sun. Every day of the year, people carry these umbrellas and we had them as well as it was the hottest time of the year to travel to China. It was pretty miserable and I was always thankful to have the umbrella to provide some shade.
Anyhow, umbrellas are actually handy tools too. I was able to use mine to excavate that Chinese fella from by backside almost instantaneously and then keep it strategically placed to prevent anyone else from getting that close again. I like to think we all learned some good lessons that day.... :laugh:
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I just spent a week in Walt Disney World. I'll try and parse out some of my thoughts between the exasperated and the pissed off thread over the next few days. I mentioned the qcodes for my beer list last week. Ugh.
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Oh man I can only imagine the complaints! :lol I mean, Disney can be a nightmare so I get it, but if the QR code got you worked up, I can't imagine what else. Should be an entertaining write up.
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Deep thoughts by Tim.
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Deep thoughts by Tim Handy.
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Anyone use Teams?
I just sat through a presentation by my regional IT team. 285 participants. At the end? On the Teams chat, "Thank you!" "Thank you!" "Thank you!" "Thank you!"... must've been 50 or more of them. Some with GIFs. I didn't turn the sound off in time and it sounded like a slot machine at a casino. My wife came in to my office and was like "what's going on? Is everything ok?"
I've even taken to, when I give my presentations over Teams, to wrap up with something along the lines of "Look I know you love me and you're grateful for my pitch. Please don't burden the Teams chat with the obvious."
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I just spent a week in Walt Disney World.
My kid also just spent a week there, in Orlando.
They had a few complaints, but they were situational and relatively few, and overall had a marvelous time. Of course, they are 20, and TAC is not. I suspect that may have SOMETHING to do with it.
Full disclosure: I've never been there.
Anyone use Teams?
I just sat through a presentation by my regional IT team. 285 participants. At the end? On the Teams chat, "Thank you!" "Thank you!" "Thank you!" "Thank you!"... must've been 50 or more of them. Some with GIFs. I didn't turn the sound off in time and it sounded like a slot machine at a casino. My wife came in to my office and was like "what's going on? Is everything ok?"
I've even taken to, when I give my presentations over Teams, to wrap up with something along the lines of "Look I know you love me and you're grateful for my pitch. Please don't burden the Teams chat with the obvious."
I use Teams daily, but would hate to use it with 285 participants. I would imagine, even without the Thank Yous, that would likely cause some lag. When we have meetings that large, we shift over to Zoom.
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Anyone use Teams?
I just sat through a presentation by my regional IT team. 285 participants. At the end? On the Teams chat, "Thank you!" "Thank you!" "Thank you!" "Thank you!"... must've been 50 or more of them. Some with GIFs. I didn't turn the sound off in time and it sounded like a slot machine at a casino. My wife came in to my office and was like "what's going on? Is everything ok?"
I've even taken to, when I give my presentations over Teams, to wrap up with something along the lines of "Look I know you love me and you're grateful for my pitch. Please don't burden the Teams chat with the obvious."
As a deeply tech infused nerd and professional, I despise Teams. I hate that stupid fucking notification sound and while the admin has all settings locked down so users are unable to change it, I one upped them and disabled notifications for Teams altogether on the OS. So no sounds for me. Having a chat with 285 participants sounds like a nightmare, I would leave that chat in a hurry.
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I just spent a week in Walt Disney World. I'll try and parse out some of my thoughts between the exasperated and the pissed off thread over the next few days. I mentioned the qcodes for my beer list last week. Ugh.
How was it generally? Crowded? Did they f--- with any of the processes, like the Speed Lines (I forget what they call them there) or anything?
I've been there several times, and we're planning to MAYBE go end of October/early November but haven't fully committed. I've heard rumblings that they've changed some things and not for the better.
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I just spent a week in Walt Disney World.
My kid also just spent a week there, in Orlando.
They had a few complaints, but they were situational and relatively few, and overall had a marvelous time. Of course, they are 20, and TAC is not. I suspect that may have SOMETHING to do with it.
Full disclosure: I've never been there.
With this heat aint no fucking way I'm going there. I'd be super miserable.
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I just spent a week in Walt Disney World. I'll try and parse out some of my thoughts between the exasperated and the pissed off thread over the next few days. I mentioned the qcodes for my beer list last week. Ugh.
How was it generally? Crowded? Did they f--- with any of the processes, like the Speed Lines (I forget what they call them there) or anything?
I've been there several times, and we're planning to MAYBE go end of October/early November but haven't fully committed. I've heard rumblings that they've changed some things and not for the better.
It wasn't crowded at all. August is usually slower anyway.
So, it should be no surprise that it is fucking expensive as all hell. I think Iger has even admitted as much. When our kids were younger, we'd buy an Annual Pass for $400, but now, a 4 Day Pass with a Water Park option cost over $500, and that's from AAA!
So, for the Speed Lanes... This probably pisses me off the most about the place. The old Fast Pass system was perfect. You slide your ticket into the machine and it spit out your pass. And then in 2 hours, you could go get another one. They ended up replacing it with an online version a few years ago, where you could reserve your time online, but you could only pick ONE premium ride per day (and two lesser rides), so at the Magic Kingdom, you couldn't get a Fast Pass for the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train AND Space Mountain. WTF??
So now they have what's called Genie+, which costs anywhere between $15-$30 depending on park/day ON TOP OF YOUR park ticket. This is basically the new Fast Pass system, so NOW, you basically have to pay for your Fast Passes.
Also, there are some rides where you can join a Virtual Queue. There are two deadlines for this. The first is 7:00AM and you have to be on the app right on time. I should mention that as a resort guest, you can hit it at 7, non resort guests have to wait until 9, but by 7:01am, it's done. You'll have to try again at 1:00pm.
That meant on two days, I had to set my fucking alarm for 6:55. The first time, I tried to join the Virtual Queue for Tron at the Magic Kingdom, but apparently (surprise surprise) I had no clue how to do it, so we missed out.
The next day, I was ready to hit it for the Guardians Of The Galaxy at EPCOT. and we got into the ride shortly after 10:00.
OK..There is something else they sell, called a Lightning Lane. For these, you have to BUY a SEPERATE TICKET to ride a ride. So, for the day I fucked up the Tron Virtual Queue, the only other option was to buy a Lightning Lane ticket. It was fucking $20 each, so for my kids to ride it, it cost me $42 (incl tax).
Now, my oldest son has been following its construction online, so him not riding wasn't an option. But I didn't go on it. Fuck that.
And of course, it's ALL controlled on the My Disney Experience APP on your PHONE! >:( :censored >:(
With this heat aint no fucking way I'm going there. I'd be super miserable.
We used to go every August. It was always less crowded and well, it's usually just as hot here.
@Stadler..I forgot to mention..there are a couple of rides (Tron, Guardians) that you simply CANNOT show up to the park and get in line. The ONLY way to get on them is take your chance on the Virtual Queue or buy the Lightning Lane. Fucking blows!
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Anyone use Teams?
I just sat through a presentation by my regional IT team. 285 participants. At the end? On the Teams chat, "Thank you!" "Thank you!" "Thank you!" "Thank you!"... must've been 50 or more of them. Some with GIFs. I didn't turn the sound off in time and it sounded like a slot machine at a casino. My wife came in to my office and was like "what's going on? Is everything ok?"
I've even taken to, when I give my presentations over Teams, to wrap up with something along the lines of "Look I know you love me and you're grateful for my pitch. Please don't burden the Teams chat with the obvious."
As a deeply tech infused nerd and professional, I despise Teams. I hate that stupid fucking notification sound and while the admin has all settings locked down so users are unable to change it, I one upped them and disabled notifications for Teams altogether on the OS. So no sounds for me. Having a chat with 285 participants sounds like a nightmare, I would leave that chat in a hurry.
Yup, Teams blows. We were forced to migrate off Slack and onto Teams because of our new work overlords. No one here was happy about it. I've gotten used to it, but it just sucks overall when compared to Slack.
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Anyone use Teams?
I just sat through a presentation by my regional IT team. 285 participants. At the end? On the Teams chat, "Thank you!" "Thank you!" "Thank you!" "Thank you!"... must've been 50 or more of them. Some with GIFs. I didn't turn the sound off in time and it sounded like a slot machine at a casino. My wife came in to my office and was like "what's going on? Is everything ok?"
I've even taken to, when I give my presentations over Teams, to wrap up with something along the lines of "Look I know you love me and you're grateful for my pitch. Please don't burden the Teams chat with the obvious."
I don't use Teams (anymore) but still in a work chat (whatsapp) and a family chat (messenger) with my wife's family.
Luckily my coworkers don't use the chat for anything unnecessary. But I had to mute the family chat because it was an endless amount of people reacting to messages (not emojis, but those reaction things people can do) so I check it when I want and get no notifications. It's lovely.
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And of course, it's ALL controlled on the My Disney Experience APP on your PHONE! >:( :censored >:(
You had me until this point.
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I just spent a week in Walt Disney World. I'll try and parse out some of my thoughts between the exasperated and the pissed off thread over the next few days. I mentioned the qcodes for my beer list last week. Ugh.
How was it generally? Crowded? Did they f--- with any of the processes, like the Speed Lines (I forget what they call them there) or anything?
I've been there several times, and we're planning to MAYBE go end of October/early November but haven't fully committed. I've heard rumblings that they've changed some things and not for the better.
It wasn't crowded at all. August is usually slower anyway.
So, it should be no surprise that it is fucking expensive as all hell. I think Iger has even admitted as much. When our kids were younger, we'd buy an Annual Pass for $400, but now, a 4 Day Pass with a Water Park option cost over $500, and that's from AAA!
So, for the Speed Lanes... This probably pisses me off the most about the place. The old Fast Pass system was perfect. You slide your ticket into the machine and it spit out your pass. And then in 2 hours, you could go get another one. They ended up replacing it with an online version a few years ago, where you could reserve your time online, but you could only pick ONE premium ride per day (and two lesser rides), so at the Magic Kingdom, you couldn't get a Fast Pass for the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train AND Space Mountain. WTF??
So now they have what's called Genie+, which costs anywhere between $15-$30 depending on park/day ON TOP OF YOUR park ticket. This is basically the new Fast Pass system, so NOW, you basically have to pay for your Fast Passes.
Also, there are some rides where you can join a Virtual Queue. There are two deadlines for this. The first is 7:00AM and you have to be on the app right on time. I should mention that as a resort guest, you can hit it at 7, non resort guests have to wait until 9, but by 7:01am, it's done. You'll have to try again at 1:00pm.
That meant on two days, I had to set my fucking alarm for 6:55. The first time, I tried to join the Virtual Queue for Tron at the Magic Kingdom, but apparently (surprise surprise) I had no clue how to do it, so we missed out.
The next day, I was ready to hit it for the Guardians Of The Galaxy at EPCOT. and we got into the ride shortly after 10:00.
OK..There is something else they sell, called a Lightning Lane. For these, you have to BUY a SEPERATE TICKET to ride a ride. So, for the day I fucked up the Tron Virtual Queue, the only other option was to buy a Lightning Lane ticket. It was fucking $20 each, so for my kids to ride it, it cost me $42 (incl tax).
Now, my oldest son has been following its construction online, so him not riding wasn't an option. But I didn't go on it. Fuck that.
And of course, it's ALL controlled on the My Disney Experience APP on your PHONE! >:( :censored >:(
With this heat aint no fucking way I'm going there. I'd be super miserable.
We used to go every August. It was always less crowded and well, it's usually just as hot here.
@Stadler..I forgot to mention..there are a couple of rides (Tron, Guardians) that you simply CANNOT show up to the park and get in line. The ONLY way to get on them is take your chance on the Virtual Queue or buy the Lightning Lane. Fucking blows!
I hate that new virtual queue system, I hate the new Genie+ system, fastpass was perfect. Of course they weren't making any money out of it. Putting aside the cost of the new Genie+ system, it still blows. You can't schedule the rides you want like you could do in Fastpass (3 per day plus a bonus 4th allowed per person). You could book those 3 in advance and spread them out over the day and with the gaps you go for the rides that have less waiting time. Now you can do that, when booking a ride with Genie+ you have to wait a set amount of time (usually hours) before you can even book the next one. It just completely blows.
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Anyone use Teams?
I just sat through a presentation by my regional IT team. 285 participants. At the end? On the Teams chat, "Thank you!" "Thank you!" "Thank you!" "Thank you!"... must've been 50 or more of them. Some with GIFs. I didn't turn the sound off in time and it sounded like a slot machine at a casino. My wife came in to my office and was like "what's going on? Is everything ok?"
I've even taken to, when I give my presentations over Teams, to wrap up with something along the lines of "Look I know you love me and you're grateful for my pitch. Please don't burden the Teams chat with the obvious."
I do all day, everyday. I just got off a 200+ meeting and when those end everyone just signs off. No one does any thanks so, although there are a few virtual clappers.
I just spent a week in Walt Disney World. I'll try and parse out some of my thoughts between the exasperated and the pissed off thread over the next few days. I mentioned the qcodes for my beer list last week. Ugh.
How was it generally? Crowded? Did they f--- with any of the processes, like the Speed Lines (I forget what they call them there) or anything?
I've been there several times, and we're planning to MAYBE go end of October/early November but haven't fully committed. I've heard rumblings that they've changed some things and not for the better.
It wasn't crowded at all. August is usually slower anyway.
So, it should be no surprise that it is fucking expensive as all hell. I think Iger has even admitted as much. When our kids were younger, we'd buy an Annual Pass for $400, but now, a 4 Day Pass with a Water Park option cost over $500, and that's from AAA!
So, for the Speed Lanes... This probably pisses me off the most about the place. The old Fast Pass system was perfect. You slide your ticket into the machine and it spit out your pass. And then in 2 hours, you could go get another one. They ended up replacing it with an online version a few years ago, where you could reserve your time online, but you could only pick ONE premium ride per day (and two lesser rides), so at the Magic Kingdom, you couldn't get a Fast Pass for the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train AND Space Mountain. WTF??
So now they have what's called Genie+, which costs anywhere between $15-$30 depending on park/day ON TOP OF YOUR park ticket. This is basically the new Fast Pass system, so NOW, you basically have to pay for your Fast Passes.
Also, there are some rides where you can join a Virtual Queue. There are two deadlines for this. The first is 7:00AM and you have to be on the app right on time. I should mention that as a resort guest, you can hit it at 7, non resort guests have to wait until 9, but by 7:01am, it's done. You'll have to try again at 1:00pm.
That meant on two days, I had to set my fucking alarm for 6:55. The first time, I tried to join the Virtual Queue for Tron at the Magic Kingdom, but apparently (surprise surprise) I had no clue how to do it, so we missed out.
The next day, I was ready to hit it for the Guardians Of The Galaxy at EPCOT. and we got into the ride shortly after 10:00.
OK..There is something else they sell, called a Lightning Lane. For these, you have to BUY a SEPERATE TICKET to ride a ride. So, for the day I fucked up the Tron Virtual Queue, the only other option was to buy a Lightning Lane ticket. It was fucking $20 each, so for my kids to ride it, it cost me $42 (incl tax).
Now, my oldest son has been following its construction online, so him not riding wasn't an option. But I didn't go on it. Fuck that.
And of course, it's ALL controlled on the My Disney Experience APP on your PHONE! >:( :censored >:(
With this heat aint no fucking way I'm going there. I'd be super miserable.
We used to go every August. It was always less crowded and well, it's usually just as hot here.
@Stadler..I forgot to mention..there are a couple of rides (Tron, Guardians) that you simply CANNOT show up to the park and get in line. The ONLY way to get on them is take your chance on the Virtual Queue or buy the Lightning Lane. Fucking blows!
As an ex-florida resisdent I hate what they turned fast pass into. There is a great documentary on it here:
https://youtu.be/9yjZpBq1XBE?si=2DAkY0SehhYkitPi
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We've been there once since the app was in play and we had a miserable experience with it. :tdwn
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We use Teams at work, It's pretty clunky and I'm sure there's way better systems out there. I'm not a fan but the organisation love it. We don't even call each other anymore by phone, it's everybody calling each other via Teams. I don't fucking get it.
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We've been there once since the app was in play and we had a miserable experience with it. :tdwn
Everyone has their face in their phone.
I mean the phones are convenient, and they were great when we had two kids that wanted to go in separate directions. My wife and I could maintain contact if needed.
But WTF..I have to be all squinty eyed just to plan my day. People you are in Disney paying a fucking fortune. ENJOY IT!!!
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I feel you.
I doubt I will ever be in a Disney park again. Been to Disney Land a half dozen times and Disney World once. Had a great time even though I am no fan of crowds and I can't do all the rides due to severe motion sickness tendencies.
But no Fast Pass and having to be on your phone the whole time? I'll pass.
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I never had motion sickness before, but I had it bad this trip.
We've been to DL twice and are likely planning another trip out there in the next few years. We've been to DW tons of times, and well, it's a lot more fun when the kids were younger.
We didn't really plan to go to Disney this year. We had trouble deciding on our summer TACation, but the accommodations were too good to pass up. We were there 7 nights, but only bought 4 day park tickets.
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I took my 5 year old to Disneyland in April, not having been myself as an adult. I had the app on my phone but didn't sign up for any Lightning Lane/Genie+ or anything. I used the paper map to navigate. I only ever looked at the app for wait times for rides, but I didn't ever really kept track of time, so never knew if they were accurate at all. My best guess at how long we waited in line for anything is 45 minutes, and it never wore on either of us. And not once did I ever wish I signed up for LL or anything extra.
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But WTF..I have to be all squinty eyed just to plan my day. People you are in Disney paying a fucking fortune. ENJOY IT!!!
Generally I enjoy the convenience of using the phone for a lot of things, but if it's taking you out of the immersiveness of being at Disney then I think that's not cool at all.
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The last time I was in Disney my one friend mastered the app so we luckily had him helping plan things but I agree it's such an expensive pain nowadays. They really need a one day Express Pass like Universal. I'll pay $50-60 in order to skip to the front of each ride even if it's limited to one per ride.
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I was just at a Modest Mouse/Pixies concert and during Modest Mouse there was a group near us that no sense of spatial awareness. While I appreciate the enthusiasm with the music the girl near me was dancing in a 3 foot bubble as if she had a 6 foot bubble, just elbows and arms flailing everywhere without a care if she was going to hit someone in the face. I was eventually able to give her a wide berth but I swore I was going to get a broken nose many times.
On a side note I know very little Modest Mouse but they killed it and I definitely need to check out more of their stuff.
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Bad contractors.
3 weeks dealing with a contractor to rent heating equipment (getting all the details right). Last week they finally sent a quote, but they sent a sale quote. I call them letting them know we were looking for rental, not a sale. I'm told that they'll correct the quote and get back to me. A week later I call to see what's going on and get told that the equipment we are looking for is a special order, and can only be purchased, not rented.
Then why not say that from week 1? 4 weeks wasted and now I'm back to square 1. The funny thing is that they were trying to charge $3,000 of shipping, for equipment that weights 20-30 pounds max, and fits into small packaging :tdwn
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3 1/2 years ago, we moved into our current house. I’m still consistently receiving mail addressed to the previous owners. At least one every one to two weeks. Important stuff, too - court documents, financial statements, mail related to their kids’ schooling… It’s baffling to me why it’s still happening. And I’m getting tired of returning it all to sender.
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We have a consult today with the doctor for my wife today but they still haven't got the second sample results from the biopsy that will help determine how to treat my wife. It's 8 damn days. We might have to reschedule. I don't want to put anything off for her treatment.
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3 1/2 years ago, we moved into our current house. I’m still consistently receiving mail addressed to the previous owners. At least one every one to two weeks. Important stuff, too - court documents, financial statements, mail related to their kids’ schooling… It’s baffling to me why it’s still happening. And I’m getting tired of returning it all to sender.
It's been 10 years for us. After about 3-4 years, I just started trashing it. It's not my job to be a forwarding service, and if they don't care, why should I?
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3 1/2 years ago, we moved into our current house. I’m still consistently receiving mail addressed to the previous owners. At least one every one to two weeks. Important stuff, too - court documents, financial statements, mail related to their kids’ schooling… It’s baffling to me why it’s still happening. And I’m getting tired of returning it all to sender.
It's been 10 years for us. After about 3-4 years, I just started trashing it. It's not my job to be a forwarding service, and if they don't care, why should I?
Oh yeah, I've been in my house 10 years now. After the first couple years, I just started throwing it in the trash. Sorry, not sorry. Granted, from what it looked like (I never opened them) they didn't appear to be important, but who knows. After years, it's on you if you are having important stuff sent to your old address.
We have a consult today with the doctor for my wife today but they still haven't got the second sample results from the biopsy that will help determine how to treat my wife. It's 8 damn days. We might have to reschedule. I don't want to put anything off for her treatment.
Must feel like an eternity too. Real shit. Hope you get the news soon just so you can figure things out. Obviously, hoping for good news for you two.
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I throw away the old occupant's mail without a second thought; I'm too busy thinking about my friend Joe and his wife and hoping they get some good news, stat!
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Lisa just texted me we are still going to the consult but the 2nd result from the biopsy did not come in. Extremely frustrating.
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When I moved in to the new house last year, first few weeks we kept getting previous owners mail. I kept putting it back in the box with a marker scribbled note saying Not At This Address. It's what the USPS recommends doing. Haven't had any since then.
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For me....
It's having to wait a couple of weeks just to get glasses. I broke my last set, had to get a new prescription, and have to get my lenses special ordered. I've been going on 2-3 weeks without glasses and it sucks not being able to see...
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For me....
It's having to wait a couple of weeks just to get glasses. I broke my last set, had to get a new prescription, and have to get my lenses special ordered. I've been going on 2-3 weeks without glasses and it sucks not being able to see...
Yikes
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I always hang onto my old pair of glasses whenever I get new ones, just in case they break.
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Exasperating: I get Yahoo! News updates twice a day (more or less). Increasingly, they have a story: "Fact Check: [Insert Coach/Boss/Celebrity] Fired someone for kneeling during the national anthem" and it's a link to a Snopes article where they debunk the claim. The person referenced is almost always different, and they claim is ALWAYS debunked, and I can't figure out who this benefits.
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For me....
It's having to wait a couple of weeks just to get glasses. I broke my last set, had to get a new prescription, and have to get my lenses special ordered. I've been going on 2-3 weeks without glasses and it sucks not being able to see...
Dude, you don't have a spare set? I have like 3. Not having your proper eyes for that long can't be good.
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I was at a show store today and during checkout the woman was explaining how that stores reward system works. I never really shop there so I politely declined however before ringing up the shoes she was typing then asked me for my first name which I gave but then when she asked for my last name I asked "Are you signing me up for the rewards program?" She said yes and when I said I didn't want it she immediately got frustrated and turned from pleasant to annoyed for the duration of the checkout. I remained nice but damn it's pretty shitty to try to push someone to enroll in something they previously said no to and then cop an attitude. I didn't come up with the company sales tactics, ma'am.
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That's one girl you don't want to date.
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That's one girl you don't want to date.
Yeah but...maybe she has a reward program of her own. ;D
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Hell no. Not worth it.
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Total psycho.
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Total psycho.
Not nice to call Joe a psycho mate.
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Kade, all my bitches think that, though.
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Kade, all my bitches think that, though.
Boom! :lol
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I’m… I’m … exasperated!
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:lol
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I'm sitting in my office at work with a giant, I mean giant, rip in the seat of my pants. I have no idea when or how this happened. I went to the dentist before work this morning and have walked around the office a bit. Finishing up a meeting and then I'm going to slink out of the office and go home for the rest of the day. :lol
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:lol just one of those days
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I'm sitting in my office at work with a giant, I mean giant, rip in the seat of my pants. I have no idea when or how this happened. I went to the dentist before work this morning and have walked around the office a bit. Finishing up a meeting and then I'm going to slink out of the office and go home for the rest of the day. :lol
:lol
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Probably happened at the crack of dawn.
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To avoid any more cheeky comments, I'd probably split as soon as you can. ;)
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On my way out, I mentioned to one of my guys why I was leaving. He said "oh yeah, I noticed that earlier. I thought you were wearing torn up jean on purpose " :lol
Literally a hole from the waistband to below my butt along the edge of one of the back pockets. That's a bit extreme for intentionally distressed jeans.
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On my way out, I mentioned to one of my guys why I was leaving. He said "oh yeah, I noticed that earlier. I thought you were wearing torn up jean on purpose " :lol
Literally a hole from the waistband to below my butt along the edge of one of the back pockets. That's a bit extreme for intentionally distressed jeans.
And I'm no fashion bug, but aren't the distressed parts usually from the top of the thigh down? :) :) :). They're going to start calling you David Lee Roth if you're not careful (he of the assless chaps from the Van Halen days).
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Me to customer: "We can do that two ways, A or B. Do you know which you'd prefer?"
Customer: "That sounds great, thanks."
After a series of back and forth emails where he wouldn't answer some of my questions or misunderstand the question altogether.
I don't think I want to work with this guy. :lol
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Is he stupid or playing the game of "i dont want it on record of what I'm asking for so I can throw it back on you when it's likely not right because I have no idea what Im doing"
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Is he stupid or playing the game of "i dont want it on record of what I'm asking for so I can throw it back on you when it's likely not right because I have no idea what Im doing"
Can't speak for him, but I see a lot of that too, and it's always somebody with shitty communication skills. If we're presenting options we're not moving forward on anything without a firm confirmation and approval. The follow up is "why isn't my stuff ready? I called 2 weeks ago." Yes, but you didn't tell us what to do until yesterday and we hadn't given it a moment's thought until then.
Lordzizor (if that is your real name): our solution is to double or even triple the price as soon as we realize somebody is flaky like that. Either it scares them off, which is fine, or we're fairly compensated for their numbskullery.
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Me to customer: "We can do that two ways, A or B. Do you know which you'd prefer?"
Customer: "That sounds great, thanks."
That happens around here at least once a week.
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Me to customer: "We can do that two ways, A or B. Do you know which you'd prefer?"
Customer: "That sounds great, thanks."
That happens around here at least once a week.
Same, happens in my organisation quite a lot with internal and external stakeholders. Like, WTF?!
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Me to customer: "We can do that two ways, A or B. Do you know which you'd prefer?"
Customer: "That sounds great, thanks."
After a series of back and forth emails where he wouldn't answer some of my questions or misunderstand the question altogether.
I don't think I want to work with this guy. :lol
I see that some of your customers are some of our customers lol
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What kind of fucking asshole throws a paper towel into a urinal??
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What kind of fucking asshole throws a paper towel into a urinal??
Perhaps he works on my floor at my office. The toilets on my floor have automatic flushers, but one of them has been broken for a few weeks. There is, however, a manual flush button. On 2 or 3 occasions, I have walked in and found an unflushed toilet, including an ass gasket. I really want to leave a nasty note for the asshole who apparently is too good for the manual flush button and thinks the next person should deal with it.
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The term "friendsgiving". It's not "familygiving". You don't need a special term to show that you spend Thanksgiving with friends and not family.
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The term "friendsgiving". It's not "familygiving". You don't need a special term to show that you spend Thanksgiving with friends and not family.
I agree with this. They tried this at work and I put a stop to that shit real quick.
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Coworkers: Hey guys let's all get together for friendsg-
HEFGOD42: No.
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Coworkers: Hey guys let's all get together for friendsg-
HEFGOD42: No.
:lol
Nah, they're doing it, I just put a stop to calling it "friendsgiving." We are just calling it our department Thanksgiving celebration.
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The term "friendsgiving". It's not "familygiving". You don't need a special term to show that you spend Thanksgiving with friends and not family.
And you guys wonder why I keep saying America suffers from chronic insecurity. We HAVE to be validated, justified, even to the extreme. It's like a basic need up there with oxygen, food, and Kiss.
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The term "friendsgiving". It's not "familygiving". You don't need a special term to show that you spend Thanksgiving with friends and not family.
And you guys wonder why I keep saying America suffers from chronic insecurity. We HAVE to be validated, justified, even to the extreme. It's like a basic need up there with oxygen, food, and Kiss.
I've never wondered why you keep saying that. I totally agree (except for Kiss).
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Huh..
My son was getting together with friends when he got back to school yesterday, and said they were having a Friendsgiving. I wouldn't call my son a pussy or anything. I never gave it a thought. It's just a term kids are using these days.
It's a tad icky I guess, but I don't understand the "insecure" comment.
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Maybe it's the millennial in me, but I'm fine with Friendsgiving. I'd go so far as to say I encourage it in this world where people are finding more and more reasons to severe in-person relationships. I heard the term yesterday at work and it was in fine context.
Co-worker: What are you doing for the holiday?
Me: V and I are hosting both our families. What about you?
Co-worker: Josh and I are doing a friendsgiving at our place on Wednesday, and I'm heading to my mom's on Thursday.
I know exactly what that is, and it makes more sense than "Josh and I are hosting a thanksgiving dinner with a bunch our friends with lots of booze and no children running around. The following day we're going to a regular thanksgiving at my mom's.
I'd argue that it's more than "familygiving" with friends instead. They're two completely different events.
One is a party amongst friends and celebrating being able to leverage the holiday to get everyone together. Something that's hard to do once everyone starts procreating and moving around. It's less formal, will be nothing but laughs and the reminiscing of old times, and there won't be any family drama and bullshit to deal with. There are no pressures or obligations for a friendsgiving. It's great.
For a lot of families, the other is a chore and a headache.
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Being Aussie, I don't really know much about Thanksgiving anyway, but I wonder where the Friendsgiving thing came from? Maybe it was from a kid with a poor fractured family life but has a couple close friends he deems as 'family.' I dunno. I think knowing the Origin of the term may put it in better context? Just sounds like something someone really young came up with and somehow it caught on.
The Familygiving thing, I don't really get at all.
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I feel like kids these days...my son is 20..when I was a kid, I had a girlfriend. At my high school, there were always couples holding hands or making out in the back staircase, that sort of thing. When my kids were in high school, I never really saw boyfriends and girlfriends. They all seem a lot less interested in that then when I was young.
But they're all friends with girls. I know the friendsgiving thing he was going to was at a girls' suite that they're friends with.
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Being Aussie, I don't really know much about Thanksgiving anyway, but I wonder where the Friendsgiving thing came from? Maybe it was from a kid with a poor fractured family life but has a couple close friends he deems as 'family.' I dunno. I think knowing the Origin of the term may put it in better context? Just sounds like something someone really young came up with and somehow it caught on.
The Familygiving thing, I don't really get at all.
That's part of it. Those who consider their group of friends as a family is how I would define Friendsgiving. A lot of college students do this that are not able to attend their familial Thanksgiving get togethers. So it's not just those that feel neglected or shunned by their family, but alao those that for some reason just aren't able to attend the familial Thanksgiving get togethers.
I don't have an issue with terming it 'Friendsgiving' as I see it as a shortened way to explain how you'll be celebrating Thanksgiving. Although what is the meaning of Thanksgiving?
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Being Aussie, I don't really know much about Thanksgiving anyway, but I wonder where the Friendsgiving thing came from? Maybe it was from a kid with a poor fractured family life but has a couple close friends he deems as 'family.' I dunno. I think knowing the Origin of the term may put it in better context? Just sounds like something someone really young came up with and somehow it caught on.
The Familygiving thing, I don't really get at all.
That's part of it. Those who consider their group of friends as a family is how I would define Friendsgiving. A lot of college students do this that are not able to attend their familial Thanksgiving get togethers. So it's not just those that feel neglected or shunned by their family, but alao those that for some reason just aren't able to attend the familial Thanksgiving get togethers.
I don't have an issue with terming it 'Friendsgiving' as I see it as a shortened way to explain how you'll be celebrating Thanksgiving. Although what is the meaning of Thanksgiving?
That seems pretty plausible mate.
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My youngest son’s birthday is November 20th. Every so often the only day we can all get together for the Fall Feast is on his birthday, so we call that Jakesgiving (his name is Jake, of course). If that makes us wrong… I don’t really care, I suppose. :biggrin:
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My youngest son’s birthday is November 20th. Every so often the only day we can all get together for the Fall Feast is on his birthday, so we call that Jakesgiving (his name is Jake, of course). If that makes us wrong… I don’t really care, I suppose. :biggrin:
I knew you had a soft side in there Gregg.
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Yes I do, but it’s developing a nice crust.
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Gregg, your new nickname is French Bread.
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:lol
Thanks, Baguette!
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Being Aussie, I don't really know much about Thanksgiving anyway, but I wonder where the Friendsgiving thing came from? Maybe it was from a kid with a poor fractured family life but has a couple close friends he deems as 'family.' I dunno. I think knowing the Origin of the term may put it in better context? Just sounds like something someone really young came up with and somehow it caught on.
The Familygiving thing, I don't really get at all.
That's part of it. Those who consider their group of friends as a family is how I would define Friendsgiving. A lot of college students do this that are not able to attend their familial Thanksgiving get togethers. So it's not just those that feel neglected or shunned by their family, but alao those that for some reason just aren't able to attend the familial Thanksgiving get togethers.
I don't have an issue with terming it 'Friendsgiving' as I see it as a shortened way to explain how you'll be celebrating Thanksgiving. Although what is the meaning of Thanksgiving?
This is primarily for TAC, but this is the issue, and where the "insecurity" comes in. Why the fancy labels? Why the need to explain it or justify it or legitimize it to anyone else? The holiday is Thanksgiving. You're either having a party with friends or you're celebrating the holiday, be it with family, friends, or some combination thereof. What's the need to label everything? To me - and no, I'm not sitting in a rocking chair shaking my fist at the kids these days, it's just an observation meant to inspire thought - its a sign of having to justify and virtue signal how important your day/events are. Give it a special name "for you" when it already has a name that works.
My family has been upside down (that is, non-traditional) with Thanksgiving for over a decade now. It will be different this year for a multitude of reasons, but for the past, say, 15 years, the night before I go to a local Chinese restaurant and buy about four bags of food. Thursday morning I go meet my college buddies at the Manchester Road Race and we drink Bloody Mary's from about 7:30 to about noon. I come home and my wife and I sit on the couch, watch TV, football, whatever, and eat the Chinese food from the night before (with my youngest step son). Usually Friday or Saturday we make a turkey with some fixin's, and whoever wants to come by can come by. Sometimes if there is a Uconn Basketball game I meet up again and we watch the game, drink a couple beers and I watch my friends kill themselves ever so slowly with cigars. I don't need to label it. It's us. We're good with it. I don't need to call it "Stadler-giving" to give it legitimacy. It has legitimacy because I'm there with my loved ones. And I am exceedingly thankful.
The funny thing? This was all because of "divorce"; my ex, my wife's ex, and now my oldest stepson's ex, they ALL do the fancy schmancy Thursday Thanksgiving......... and everyone that has to go back and forth hates it. All my kids/grandkids want to be at my house, every one says "save me some of that Chinese food" and they all look forward to the informal Friday/Saturday turkey. This year will be slightly different, because my father-in-law isn't well and lives alone, so he will come over Thursday and will likely stay over for at least one night, so we'll do something a little more inclusive, but it will still be "us". And it will still be "Thanksgiving", not any of these new-fangled names to try to make it more than it is.
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:lol
Thanks, Baguette!
I do have a little frog in me. LOL
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Being Aussie, I don't really know much about Thanksgiving anyway, but I wonder where the Friendsgiving thing came from? Maybe it was from a kid with a poor fractured family life but has a couple close friends he deems as 'family.' I dunno. I think knowing the Origin of the term may put it in better context? Just sounds like something someone really young came up with and somehow it caught on.
The Familygiving thing, I don't really get at all.
That's part of it. Those who consider their group of friends as a family is how I would define Friendsgiving. A lot of college students do this that are not able to attend their familial Thanksgiving get togethers. So it's not just those that feel neglected or shunned by their family, but alao those that for some reason just aren't able to attend the familial Thanksgiving get togethers.
I don't have an issue with terming it 'Friendsgiving' as I see it as a shortened way to explain how you'll be celebrating Thanksgiving. Although what is the meaning of Thanksgiving?
This is primarily for TAC, but this is the issue, and where the "insecurity" comes in. Why the fancy labels?
*snip*
Isn't that just what people do? We could just say "higher-ed", but we make it a point to have "trade school", "college", "state school", "law school", "community college", etc.. All carry a bit more specificity than the other, and carry a bunch of additional context. We gather more information with less. Most here seem to know what "friendsgiving" is, and acknowledge it's a completely separate thing from the traditional Thanksgiving celebration. It's a more positive version of Festivus for a different holiday.
I don't think anyone is looking to get a special label or anything. It's its own thing.
Maybe if some of you old timers had them in your twenties, you'd see them differently :heart
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Maybe if some of you old timers had them in your twenties, you'd see them differently :heart
I mean, I did. But we just called it a Thanksgiving get-together.
If we had a Christmas party with friends (and we did), or a Halloween party (and we did), it never would have occurred to us to call them friendsmas or friendsoween.
I don't care THAT much, I'm not dying on this hill. I'm just saying. In my view, Thanksgiving is already specific enough a descriptor. But hey, any of you do whatever you want, it's no skin off my nose. I celebrate and give thanks for all of you.
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Most here seem to know what "friendsgiving" is, and acknowledge it's a completely separate thing from the traditional Thanksgiving celebration.
Is it though? It's just a Thanksgiving celebration with friends instead of family. I celebrate Thanksgiving multiple times every year with different groups of people. Some years friends are included. I don't feel the need to differentiate. It's all Thanksgiving.
Maybe if some of you old timers had them in your twenties, you'd see them differently :heart
I mean, I did. But we just called it a Thanksgiving get-together.
If we had a Christmas party with friends (and we did), or a Halloween party (and we did), it never would have occurred to us to call them friendsmas or friendsoween.
I don't care THAT much, I'm not dying on this hill. I'm just saying. In my view, Thanksgiving is already specific enough a descriptor. But hey, any of you do whatever you want, it's no skin off my nose. I celebrate and give thanks for all of you.
I agree with everything Hef said here.
To me there's no need to make the distinction unless a person is trying to declare "I'm better/different/special". That's what rubs me the wrong way. Like Hef, not a hill I'll die on, you do you. But you'll always get a silent eye roll from me if you call it friendsgiving.
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Being Aussie, I don't really know much about Thanksgiving anyway, but I wonder where the Friendsgiving thing came from? Maybe it was from a kid with a poor fractured family life but has a couple close friends he deems as 'family.' I dunno. I think knowing the Origin of the term may put it in better context? Just sounds like something someone really young came up with and somehow it caught on.
The Familygiving thing, I don't really get at all.
That's part of it. Those who consider their group of friends as a family is how I would define Friendsgiving. A lot of college students do this that are not able to attend their familial Thanksgiving get togethers. So it's not just those that feel neglected or shunned by their family, but alao those that for some reason just aren't able to attend the familial Thanksgiving get togethers.
I don't have an issue with terming it 'Friendsgiving' as I see it as a shortened way to explain how you'll be celebrating Thanksgiving. Although what is the meaning of Thanksgiving?
This is primarily for TAC, but this is the issue, and where the "insecurity" comes in. Why the fancy labels?
*snip*
Isn't that just what people do? We could just say "higher-ed", but we make it a point to have "trade school", "college", "state school", "law school", "community college", etc.. All carry a bit more specificity than the other, and carry a bunch of additional context. We gather more information with less. Most here seem to know what "friendsgiving" is, and acknowledge it's a completely separate thing from the traditional Thanksgiving celebration. It's a more positive version of Festivus for a different holiday.
I don't think anyone is looking to get a special label or anything. It's its own thing.
Maybe if some of you old timers had them in your twenties, you'd see them differently :heart
Well, you're kind of making my point: it IS what we do... now, because we're becoming overwhelmed with this insecurity, and it's permeating everything, primarily caused by social media. I DO have 20-somethings; my daughter is exactly 23, my other daughter is 25 and my step son is, well, he's 30 now.
if you're doing it because it's the T-giving weekend, it's THANKSGIVING. If you would have done it anyway if it was May 12th, then it's just a party. Everything else is sort of superfluous, doesn't help me any more to understand what you're doing - which, by the way, is none of my damn business to start with - and gives a false sense of... importance or gravitas in a way that's not really benefitting anyone but the insecure person looking for the validation because... who knows why? I think Lordxizor has this right; there's an element of virtue signaling here that we can avoid.
(I'm overstating this a bit to make the point, I hope that's clear; I actually parked in the Hef camp: you do you, whatever works for you and yours; this is more observational than anything else.)
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What are your guys' thoughts on the phrase "Trunk or Treat"?
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Being Aussie, I don't really know much about Thanksgiving anyway, but I wonder where the Friendsgiving thing came from? Maybe it was from a kid with a poor fractured family life but has a couple close friends he deems as 'family.' I dunno. I think knowing the Origin of the term may put it in better context? Just sounds like something someone really young came up with and somehow it caught on.
The Familygiving thing, I don't really get at all.
That's part of it. Those who consider their group of friends as a family is how I would define Friendsgiving. A lot of college students do this that are not able to attend their familial Thanksgiving get togethers. So it's not just those that feel neglected or shunned by their family, but alao those that for some reason just aren't able to attend the familial Thanksgiving get togethers.
I don't have an issue with terming it 'Friendsgiving' as I see it as a shortened way to explain how you'll be celebrating Thanksgiving. Although what is the meaning of Thanksgiving?
This is primarily for TAC, but this is the issue, and where the "insecurity" comes in. Why the fancy labels? Why the need to explain it or justify it or legitimize it to anyone else? The holiday is Thanksgiving. You're either having a party with friends or you're celebrating the holiday, be it with family, friends, or some combination thereof. What's the need to label everything? To me - and no, I'm not sitting in a rocking chair shaking my fist at the kids these days, it's just an observation meant to inspire thought - its a sign of having to justify and virtue signal how important your day/events are. Give it a special name "for you" when it already has a name that works.
My family has been upside down (that is, non-traditional) with Thanksgiving for over a decade now. It will be different this year for a multitude of reasons, but for the past, say, 15 years, the night before I go to a local Chinese restaurant and buy about four bags of food. Thursday morning I go meet my college buddies at the Manchester Road Race and we drink Bloody Mary's from about 7:30 to about noon. I come home and my wife and I sit on the couch, watch TV, football, whatever, and eat the Chinese food from the night before (with my youngest step son). Usually Friday or Saturday we make a turkey with some fixin's, and whoever wants to come by can come by. Sometimes if there is a Uconn Basketball game I meet up again and we watch the game, drink a couple beers and I watch my friends kill themselves ever so slowly with cigars. I don't need to label it. It's us. We're good with it. I don't need to call it "Stadler-giving" to give it legitimacy. It has legitimacy because I'm there with my loved ones. And I am exceedingly thankful.
The funny thing? This was all because of "divorce"; my ex, my wife's ex, and now my oldest stepson's ex, they ALL do the fancy schmancy Thursday Thanksgiving......... and everyone that has to go back and forth hates it. All my kids/grandkids want to be at my house, every one says "save me some of that Chinese food" and they all look forward to the informal Friday/Saturday turkey. This year will be slightly different, because my father-in-law isn't well and lives alone, so he will come over Thursday and will likely stay over for at least one night, so we'll do something a little more inclusive, but it will still be "us". And it will still be "Thanksgiving", not any of these new-fangled names to try to make it more than it is.
Very interesting observations. I clearly have no stakes in the Thanksgiving / Friendsgiving game, but what is piquing my curiosity is the need to compress concepts into catchy brand-like words as such. If there is some sort of insecurity to be spotted, it could be - in the age of x characters or less - a strange fear that complex communication (something to explain and spend a minute to clarify) isn't loud or strong enough to penetrate our neighbour's attention unless microwaved into self-explicative headlines. Like we need to clickbait each other in order to be understood.
Just thoughts, no judgement. Language is freedom and to each their own.
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What are your guys' thoughts on the phrase "Trunk or Treat"?
Hang on... <Googles>
If I was a kid, I'd be like "Lame-o". If I'm a parent, and can have a cooler in the back seat? I'm like "Bring it on. I can be home in time for the game."
Which means, I probably don't like it. Let kids be kids.
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What are your guys' thoughts on the phrase "Trunk or Treat"?
Hang on... <Googles>
If I was a kid, I'd be like "Lame-o". If I'm a parent, and can have a cooler in the back seat? I'm like "Bring it on. I can be home in time for the game."
Which means, I probably don't like it. Let kids be kids.
We love Trunk or Treats. The kids and my wife and I. Way more candy per distance walked. Everyone is in a good mood. Lots of cute kid costumes and creatively decorated trunks to comment on. They are most commonly done in church parking lots, so the drinking thing is probably not encouraged. We usually hit up one or two before Halloween.
The phrase itself is kind of dumb, but the concept is fun, IMO.
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Our church does a trunk or treat - it's the best.
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What are your guys' thoughts on the phrase "Trunk or Treat"?
It's accurate.
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[Serious] Why not just call it trick or treating though? The only difference is where the kids are doing it. They're still putting on costumes because it's Halloween, and they're still walking around to get free candy. The only difference is it's in a parking lot instead of neighborhoods. I'm failing to see the difference between that and a term like "friendsgiving".
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Being Aussie, I don't really know much about Thanksgiving anyway, but I wonder where the Friendsgiving thing came from? Maybe it was from a kid with a poor fractured family life but has a couple close friends he deems as 'family.' I dunno. I think knowing the Origin of the term may put it in better context? Just sounds like something someone really young came up with and somehow it caught on.
The Familygiving thing, I don't really get at all.
That's part of it. Those who consider their group of friends as a family is how I would define Friendsgiving. A lot of college students do this that are not able to attend their familial Thanksgiving get togethers. So it's not just those that feel neglected or shunned by their family, but alao those that for some reason just aren't able to attend the familial Thanksgiving get togethers.
I don't have an issue with terming it 'Friendsgiving' as I see it as a shortened way to explain how you'll be celebrating Thanksgiving. Although what is the meaning of Thanksgiving?
This is primarily for TAC, but this is the issue, and where the "insecurity" comes in. Why the fancy labels? Why the need to explain it or justify it or legitimize it to anyone else? The holiday is Thanksgiving. You're either having a party with friends or you're celebrating the holiday, be it with family, friends, or some combination thereof. What's the need to label everything? To me - and no, I'm not sitting in a rocking chair shaking my fist at the kids these days, it's just an observation meant to inspire thought - its a sign of having to justify and virtue signal how important your day/events are. Give it a special name "for you" when it already has a name that works.
This is primarily for Stadler.. ;D
I guess I'm not understanding your hang up with this term. I cannot follow the breadcrumbs from friendsgiving to insecurity. I mean, you sound kind of insecure beating this drum. ;D
To me, sure, the term sounds kind of gay, but what's the genesis of it? Was it born on a psychologist's couch, or was it organically created by someone in the course of language evolution?
I had mentioned that my observation of kids my kids' ages is that there's a lot less boyfriend/girlfriend scenarios, and more of a group co-ed thing. If a group of them want to celebrate a mini thansksgiving and call it a friendsgiving, why would that give you pause, and reflexively point to your "Insecurity Thesis", which generally I agree with, but you seem to be trying to force this into it.
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[Serious] Why not just call it trick or treating though? The only difference is where the kids are doing it. They're still putting on costumes because it's Halloween, and they're still walking around to get free candy. The only difference is it's in a parking lot instead of neighborhoods. I'm failing to see the difference between that and a term like "friendsgiving".
The difference is that the holiday isn't called Trick or Treating. The holiday is Halloween. Trick or treating is a Halloween activity, that's all.
Also, trick or treating means specifically going to different people's homes. That isn't what happens at a trunk or treat. You go to one place, usually a church or school parking lot, and you go around to different people's car trunks. Which is why I said the phrase is accurate.
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If they tried to call it Trunkoween, I would be as opposed to it as Friendsgiving.
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Being Aussie, I don't really know much about Thanksgiving anyway, but I wonder where the Friendsgiving thing came from? Maybe it was from a kid with a poor fractured family life but has a couple close friends he deems as 'family.' I dunno. I think knowing the Origin of the term may put it in better context? Just sounds like something someone really young came up with and somehow it caught on.
The Familygiving thing, I don't really get at all.
That's part of it. Those who consider their group of friends as a family is how I would define Friendsgiving. A lot of college students do this that are not able to attend their familial Thanksgiving get togethers. So it's not just those that feel neglected or shunned by their family, but alao those that for some reason just aren't able to attend the familial Thanksgiving get togethers.
I don't have an issue with terming it 'Friendsgiving' as I see it as a shortened way to explain how you'll be celebrating Thanksgiving. Although what is the meaning of Thanksgiving?
This is primarily for TAC, but this is the issue, and where the "insecurity" comes in. Why the fancy labels? Why the need to explain it or justify it or legitimize it to anyone else? The holiday is Thanksgiving. You're either having a party with friends or you're celebrating the holiday, be it with family, friends, or some combination thereof. What's the need to label everything? To me - and no, I'm not sitting in a rocking chair shaking my fist at the kids these days, it's just an observation meant to inspire thought - its a sign of having to justify and virtue signal how important your day/events are. Give it a special name "for you" when it already has a name that works.
This is primarily for Stadler.. ;D
I guess I'm not understanding your hang up with this term. I cannot follow the breadcrumbs from friendsgiving to insecurity. I mean, you sound kind of insecure beating this drum. ;D
To me, sure, the term sounds kind of gay, but what's the genesis of it? Was it born on a psychologist's couch, or was it organically created by someone in the course of language evolution?
I had mentioned that my observation of kids my kids' ages is that there's a lot less boyfriend/girlfriend scenarios, and more of a group co-ed thing. If a group of them want to celebrate a mini thansksgiving and call it a friendsgiving, why would that give you pause, and reflexively point to your "Insecurity Thesis", which generally I agree with, but you seem to be trying to force this into it.
Well, I don't know about "forcing"; you're looking at it as an isolated thing, with one aspect that makes sense. I'm looking at it as a more holistic thing, where we - people - NEED, almost obsessively, labels to validate what is our little existence in the world. it's not enough to be a partial part of something bigger; we seem to have this obsession with being a whole part of something small. I do get it; but whereas in the past it seemed like we spent time searching for that niche where we fit - some of us found it, some of us didn't, and to varying degrees - now we're desperate to cut right to the chase and make that little island hell or high water where we can say it's "ours" even if it's semantics.
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Perhaps I'm being shortsighted, or you're being..far sighted, but I have no idea how friendsgiving is in any way part of a larger problem. It's just a word that just means a group of friends getting together for a thanksgiving party of some sort. It's not a word that's fighting for its own place in the world, or proof that the world is going to pussy hell.
You're out crankying me!!!...and that's saying something. :lol
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Thank God I was sitting down when I read this, Tim. Lol
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Thank God I was sitting down when I read this, Tim. Lol
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It was a low blow, wasn't it? :lol
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What the hell is Trunk or Treat?
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Thank God I was sitting down when I read this, Tim. Lol
:lol
It was a low blow, wasn't it? :lol
I WAS SO CONFUSED AND FAINT!
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What the hell is Trunk or Treat?
It is an alternative to trick-or-treating - typically for younger kids. Instead of (or in addition to) handing out candy at their homes, a group of parents (typically affiliated with a school or church) set up in the school/church parking lot and hand out candy out of their car trunks. Instead of going door-to-door, the kids go from car-to-car.
https://www.realsimple.com/everything-you-wanted-to-know-about-trunk-or-treat-7568515
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What the hell is Trunk or Treat?
It is an alternative to trick-or-treating - typically for younger kids. Instead of (or in addition to) handing out candy at their homes, a group of parents (typically affiliated with a school or church) set up in the school/church parking lot and hand out candy out of their car trunks. Instead of going door-to-door, the kids go from car-to-car.
https://www.realsimple.com/everything-you-wanted-to-know-about-trunk-or-treat-7568515
That's a really great idea.
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What the hell is Trunk or Treat?
It is an alternative to trick-or-treating - typically for younger kids. Instead of (or in addition to) handing out candy at their homes, a group of parents (typically affiliated with a school or church) set up in the school/church parking lot and hand out candy out of their car trunks. Instead of going door-to-door, the kids go from car-to-car.
https://www.realsimple.com/everything-you-wanted-to-know-about-trunk-or-treat-7568515
That's a really great idea.
As the article mentions, decorating the trunk is (or can be) a big part of the fun. The kids love it both going around and decorating for it.
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I'm just glad it doesn't involve Eddie Trunk somehow.
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I'm just glad it doesn't involve Eddie Trunk somehow.
He thinks it does.
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I'm just glad it doesn't involve Eddie Trunk somehow.
I think we can all agree with this.
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I'm just glad it doesn't involve Eddie Trunk somehow.
I think we can all agree with this.
For real. Eddie Trunk is certainly no treat!
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What an annoying flog that guy is. Go and listen to some Kix you pussy.
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I used to love Eddie Trunk, his shows with MP and many others were fun and fantastic to listen. Then he became the old man screaming at the cloud guy and my interest completely fizzled.
I still remember how offended and personally attacked he felt and sounded when Lady Gaga covered Metallica on some awards show. I wonder if he's still complaining every few mins about how Kiss is still not in the rock n roll hall of fame.
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The overuse of the word "iconic." There is a series on YT where actors discuss the "iconic characters" they have portrayed. I don't generally care to listen to celebs talk about themselves much, but I enjoyed a few of them. But there are videos featuring Ethan Hawke, John Leguizamo, and Paul Dano. Are we really saying Ethan Hawke has played "iconic" characters?
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The overuse of the word "iconic." There is a series on YT where actors discuss the "iconic characters" they have portrayed. I don't generally care to listen to celebs talk about themselves much, but I enjoyed a few of them. But there are videos featuring Ethan Hawke, John Leguizamo, and Paul Dano. Are we really saying Ethan Hawke has played "iconic" characters?
I have seen a bunch of those.
I chuckled at the Jason Bateman one, as he has so few that his role in Teen Wolf 2 (a terrible movie by all accounts) was listed as one of them. :lol :lol
In the case of Hawke, I feel that Dead Poets Society is absolutely an iconic film, but not sure I'd call Todd Anderson an iconic character. Don't get me wrong, the cast was excellent, but that feels like a film where Mr. Keating is the one iconic character.
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I used to love Eddie Trunk, his shows with MP and many others were fun and fantastic to listen. Then he became the old man screaming at the cloud guy and my interest completely fizzled.
I still remember how offended and personally attacked he felt and sounded when Lady Gaga covered Metallica on some awards show. I wonder if he's still complaining every few mins about how Kiss is still not in the rock n roll hall of fame.
No, now he's flogging the "live singing" thing, pimping his friends' bands from Las Vegas who play to 12 people a night.
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The overuse of the word "iconic." There is a series on YT where actors discuss the "iconic characters" they have portrayed. I don't generally care to listen to celebs talk about themselves much, but I enjoyed a few of them. But there are videos featuring Ethan Hawke, John Leguizamo, and Paul Dano. Are we really saying Ethan Hawke has played "iconic" characters?
Dude, I am with you 1000% percent. EVERY reality show - Dancing With The Stars, Masked Singer, etc. - has to label things as "iconic" and easily half the time I'm like "Really? That earned the label?"
It's yet another brick in the wall of that insecurity I talk about; we can't be average. We can't be normal. We HAVE to be "iconic". You can add the word "super" to this as well. "I was super excited." "It was super easy." WTF. Why isn't "excited" enough?
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The overuse of the word "iconic." There is a series on YT where actors discuss the "iconic characters" they have portrayed. I don't generally care to listen to celebs talk about themselves much, but I enjoyed a few of them. But there are videos featuring Ethan Hawke, John Leguizamo, and Paul Dano. Are we really saying Ethan Hawke has played "iconic" characters?
Dude, I am with you 1000% percent. EVERY reality show - Dancing With The Stars, Masked Singer, etc. - has to label things as "iconic" and easily half the time I'm like "Really? That earned the label?"
It's yet another brick in the wall of that insecurity I talk about; we can't be average. We can't be normal. We HAVE to be "iconic". You can add the word "super" to this as well. "I was super excited." "It was super easy." WTF. Why isn't "excited" enough?
For all the things we disagree on, I'm with you in lock step there. Every time I hear the superlative "super" put in front of another adjective, I mentally cringe. Society slaps around certain terms and language so loosely nowadays.
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Kind of like this trend of people calling something "my truth," which means, "I can lie and make up any story I want and call it 'my truth' and it somehow becomes a truth." I roll my eyes every time I see someone, even if I am a fan of said person, use that expression.
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Kind of like this trend of people calling something "my truth," which means, "I can lie and make up any story I want and call it 'my truth' and it somehow becomes a truth." I roll my eyes every time I see someone, even if I am a fan of said person, use that expression.
I'm with you there too. I find those same people will respond to "facts" with "that's how YOU see them". Uh, no. Facts are fucking facts.
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But Chad, you're super, terrific!
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But Chad, you're super, terrific!
He's iconic.
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Kind of like this trend of people calling something "my truth," which means, "I can lie and make up any story I want and call it 'my truth' and it somehow becomes a truth." I roll my eyes every time I see someone, even if I am a fan of said person, use that expression.
Oh fuck I hate, HATE the "my truth" thing.
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Kind of like this trend of people calling something "my truth," which means, "I can lie and make up any story I want and call it 'my truth' and it somehow becomes a truth." I roll my eyes every time I see someone, even if I am a fan of said person, use that expression.
Oh fuck I hate, HATE the "my truth" thing.
Again, though, it creates this false sense of "ownership". It's MINE. It's SPECIAL. I'M SPECIAL. I'm, dare I say it, SUPER special!
Honestly, it's kind of pathetic.
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The price of Christmas trees. WTF??
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Kind of like this trend of people calling something "my truth," which means, "I can lie and make up any story I want and call it 'my truth' and it somehow becomes a truth." I roll my eyes every time I see someone, even if I am a fan of said person, use that expression.
Oh fuck I hate, HATE the "my truth" thing.
Again, though, it creates this false sense of "ownership". It's MINE. It's SPECIAL. I'M SPECIAL. I'm, dare I say it, SUPER special!
Honestly, it's kind of pathetic.
Especially Special.... :lol
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I only really have a problem with the phrase when people start using it justify not believing in objective truth.
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I only really have a problem with the phrase when people start using it justify not believing in objective truth.
What if their objective truth is different from your objective truth?
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Kind of like this trend of people calling something "my truth," which means, "I can lie and make up any story I want and call it 'my truth' and it somehow becomes a truth." I roll my eyes every time I see someone, even if I am a fan of said person, use that expression.
Oh fuck I hate, HATE the "my truth" thing.
Again, though, it creates this false sense of "ownership". It's MINE. It's SPECIAL. I'M SPECIAL. I'm, dare I say it, SUPER special!
Honestly, it's kind of pathetic.
didn't Taylor Swift say it first? lol i think it's in one of her songs (living "my truth", etc)
EDIT: It was public comments in support of Pride Month a few years back, not a lyric in one of her songs (though there still might be one, lol)
https://www.nme.com/news/music/taylor-swift-speaks-out-for-pride-month-im-sending-my-respect-and-love-to-those-bravely-living-out-their-truth-2953475
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TaySwift's music being "good" sure sounds like a lot of people's personal truth to me!
Re: Friendsgiving
It's a secondary event, not a Thanksgiving replacement.
Young people are so torn these days, often pressured by 2-4 sets of parents who all have 100% of their wishes for the future of the family placed solely on them. The result is, holidays can be more stress than fun, as younger people try to divide the time and "please everyone". With most people coming from families of 3-4, I think it's just natural that the younger generation feel extra pressure to "live up" to what their parents want, and parents (as well as aunts/uncles) can often be overbearing about their expectations even as their children grow into adults.
"Friendsgiving" is typical of this generation's response to the problems they face. It's younger people saying "well, we'll just have to do even more, have a whole second Thanksgiving because the main one isn't even fun for us."
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good point. if boomers didn't get divorced at a record rate and create multiple family events their kids are expected to attend at every holiday maybe we'd have more time lol
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What if their objective truth is different from your objective truth?
Then at least one of us is wrong.
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TaySwift's music being "good" sure sounds like a lot of people's personal truth to me!
Re: Friendsgiving
It's a secondary event, not a Thanksgiving replacement.
Young people are so torn these days, often pressured by 2-4 sets of parents who all have 100% of their wishes for the future of the family placed solely on them. The result is, holidays can be more stress than fun, as younger people try to divide the time and "please everyone". With most people coming from families of 3-4, I think it's just natural that the younger generation feel extra pressure to "live up" to what their parents want, and parents (as well as aunts/uncles) can often be overbearing about their expectations even as their children grow into adults.
"Friendsgiving" is typical of this generation's response to the problems they face. It's younger people saying "well, we'll just have to do even more, have a whole second Thanksgiving because the main one isn't even fun for us."
I'm not sure I buy that.
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Serious question: Are electronic and appliance manufacturers designing products with a built-in shortened lifespan so as to ensure repeat purchases every couple years? Between the members in my family and our circle of friends, there have been at least 10 refrigerators, multiple dishwashers, ovens, microwaves and TV's that crapped out within 15 to 18 months and some even before the warranty expired.
Maybe my memory is failing me but I don't remember this happening until the 00's.
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Serious question: Are electronic and appliance manufacturers designing products with a built-in shortened lifespan so as to ensure repeat purchases every couple years? Between the members in my family and our circle of friends, there have been at least 10 refrigerators, multiple dishwashers, ovens, microwaves and TV's that crapped out within 15 to 18 months and some even before the warranty expired.
Maybe my memory is failing me but I don't remember this happening until the 00's.
I don't necessarily think that companies plan for their products to fail. But I do think there is tremendous pressure to make their products cheaper, both to increase their profit margin, and to compete with competitors. This leads to cheaper components, less robust materials, etc, which shortens lifespan. Also as we add more technology to appliances that didn't used to need them, it creates more things that can break.
To go with that, as appliances become cheaper, and repairs become more expensive, it's often cheaper to just replace things rather than repair them. This creates a perception that things don't last as long, when it could have been fixed and potentially lasted years longer. Decades ago, you'd repair a TV. Now you just toss it and buy a new one.
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Serious question: Are electronic and appliance manufacturers designing products with a built-in shortened lifespan so as to ensure repeat purchases every couple years? Between the members in my family and our circle of friends, there have been at least 10 refrigerators, multiple dishwashers, ovens, microwaves and TV's that crapped out within 15 to 18 months and some even before the warranty expired.
Maybe my memory is failing me but I don't remember this happening until the 00's.
I don't necessarily think that companies plan for their products to fail. But I do think there is tremendous pressure to make their products cheaper, both to increase their profit margin, and to compete with competitors. This leads to cheaper components, less robust materials, etc, which shortens lifespan. Also as we add more technology to appliances that didn't used to need them, it creates more things that can break.
To go with that, as appliances become cheaper, and repairs become more expensive, it's often cheaper to just replace things rather than repair them. This creates a perception that things don't last as long, when it could have been fixed and potentially lasted years longer. Decades ago, you'd repair a TV. Now you just toss it and buy a new one.
I have no idea if these things time perfectly to die with warranties, but it certainly feels that way :lol
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Just realized I have to work during the game awards... aagh!
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Serious question: Are electronic and appliance manufacturers designing products with a built-in shortened lifespan so as to ensure repeat purchases every couple years? Between the members in my family and our circle of friends, there have been at least 10 refrigerators, multiple dishwashers, ovens, microwaves and TV's that crapped out within 15 to 18 months and some even before the warranty expired.
Maybe my memory is failing me but I don't remember this happening until the 00's.
Planned obsolescence has been a thing for the better part of a century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence
The price of Christmas trees. WTF??
A couple years ago, I finally convinced my wife to let me buy an artificial tree. I paid a couple hundred bucks, and I'll never have to pay for a Christmas tree again! AND we won't be vacuuming needs up until June.
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The price of Christmas trees. WTF??
A couple years ago, I finally convinced my wife to let me buy an artificial tree. I paid a couple hundred bucks, and I'll never have to pay for a Christmas tree again! AND we won't be vacuuming needs up until June.
Thankfully, mrs.jingle has ALWAYS preferred a fake tree. Haven't bought a real tree once in my life.
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There was a time that used an artificial tree, but for the last several years, we have gotten real trees, most years getting two, which I assume we will do again this coming weekend.
They both have pros and cons.
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Love the IDEA of a real tree, but fake ones are just so much more practical (and they look the same from the street).
"Planned obsolescence", in it's purest form, is sort of a myth. I worked for a MAJOR manufacturing company for the better part of a decade and can't name one actual example of that. The original term wasn't PLANNED obsolescence, but rather DYNAMIC obsolescence where a product isn't designed to fail, but the company designs NEW ones that essentially make the old one obsolete. That's the idea in the car industry, with the model years and what not.
I think it's less purposeful "planning", but more like what Lordxizor said. It's not that they plan for obsolescence, but that they can't or won't design for perpetuity (or close to it).
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The price of Christmas trees. WTF??
A couple years ago, I finally convinced my wife to let me buy an artificial tree. I paid a couple hundred bucks, and I'll never have to pay for a Christmas tree again! AND we won't be vacuuming needs up until June.
Unfortunately, the whole going out to buy a tree is a ritual that my son isn't yet ready to let go, and until that happens...my wife won't switch. I'm going to start trying to convince her though.
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Love the IDEA of a real tree
Yeah, this. The effort, the cost, and maintenance and eventual removal all make it not something I'm interested in, but generally, I'd love to have a real tree. I also have a cat so that's another level of complexity. I haven't even bothered with a fake since my ex moved out 9 years ago. But my gf wants a tree and just bought a fake one on amazon (apparently all our local stores were sold out) so we'll set that up this weekend.
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We always get our trees at the local Farmer's Market. Then after the season, we haul them outside, chop them up, and burn in our fire pit, which we were going to use to burn some other wood anyway.
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Love the IDEA of a real tree
Yeah, this. The effort, the cost, and maintenance and eventual removal all make it not something I'm interested in, but generally, I'd love to have a real tree. I also have a cat so that's another level of complexity. I haven't even bothered with a fake since my ex moved out 9 years ago. But my gf wants a tree and just bought a fake one on amazon (apparently all our local stores were sold out) so we'll set that up this weekend.
The best time to buy a fake tree is the couple weeks after Christmas. The stores don't want large items that won't be saleable again for ten months in their inventory, so they get marked down big time. Same is true for wrapping paper.
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My parents had the sane fake Christmas tree for over 30 years before they bought a new one.
I work at a Wal Mart DC in NH that services 104 stores in N.E. and a little of New York. I see so many trees every year that I think some people treat their fake trees as disposable.
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I loved when Costco had their $30 real trees. We did that every year and only moved to fake when they stopped carrying them. I prefer real, even with the hassle, but the cost has gotten prohibitive now.
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Love the IDEA of a real tree
Yeah, this. The effort, the cost, and maintenance and eventual removal all make it not something I'm interested in, but generally, I'd love to have a real tree. I also have a cat so that's another level of complexity. I haven't even bothered with a fake since my ex moved out 9 years ago. But my gf wants a tree and just bought a fake one on amazon (apparently all our local stores were sold out) so we'll set that up this weekend.
The best time to buy a fake tree is the couple weeks after Christmas. The stores don't want large items that won't be saleable again for ten months in their inventory, so they get marked down big time. Same is true for wrapping paper.
Yup ... for about 15 years, we had a pre-lit tree that normally listed for $800, and we got it for under $200.
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If I had to rank my most cherished Christmas memories from my childhood, picking out our tree with my dad would be #2, only behind decorating the tree. There was something magical about that experience. Today as a 47 year old dad, it isn't #2 but it's up there. My wife just wants a tree and can't be bothered by much else. But the kids enjoy picking out our tree as much as I do. Just yesterday we went to our usual place and split up. After a few minutes I found my 12 year old standing by a tree and I said "Guess you found one?" Her big smile gave me the answer. I didn't even really care what it cost at that point.
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Love the IDEA of a real tree
Yeah, this. The effort, the cost, and maintenance and eventual removal all make it not something I'm interested in, but generally, I'd love to have a real tree. I also have a cat so that's another level of complexity. I haven't even bothered with a fake since my ex moved out 9 years ago. But my gf wants a tree and just bought a fake one on amazon (apparently all our local stores were sold out) so we'll set that up this weekend.
The best time to buy a fake tree is the couple weeks after Christmas. The stores don't want large items that won't be saleable again for ten months in their inventory, so they get marked down big time. Same is true for wrapping paper.
Yup ... for about 15 years, we had a pre-lit tree that normally listed for $800, and we got it for under $200.
Makes sense but isn't going to satisfy my gf wanting a tree this year :lol She actually had a tree from her parents, but realized it was missing the stand over the weekend. She got one on amazon for $25. Not pre-lit, which is fine, because she wants to decorate it herself.
If I had to rank my most cherished Christmas memories from my childhood, picking out our tree with my dad would be #2, only behind decorating the tree. There was something magical about that experience.
Yeah, for me, decorating the tree was a big family experience. My dad would play christmas music and bring out all the boxes from the basement with the ornaments. A lot of the ornaments were yearly gifts from my grandparents and I would love to play with them like toys so opening the boxes and seeing my old "toys" was so much fun.
Once I grew up, I got real tired of that though. Eventually I didn't want to be part of decorating the tree at all and felt forced to. Might be why I'm not terribly interested in doing it anymore. I actually have to go through my basement, I may have a box of my old ornaments and if I do, I will hang those myself on our new fake tree this weekend.
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We always get our trees at the local Farmer's Market. Then after the season, we haul them outside, chop them up, and burn in our fire pit, which we were going to use to burn some other wood anyway.
We did this every year as well....minus the chopping up and burning them. I'd just drag them 30-40 yds into the woods behind our house and call it even. I LOVE having a real tree....grew up a real tree family....BUT....shoot, I guess it's been 3 or 4 years now.....we switched over to a fake tree. Spent some good money to get one that looks every bit real so it does look the part....but it's not the same.
I like the convenience of it but in my mind the whole experience of putting up the tree was cheapened a bit when we made the switch. Sure, the boys are older now and heading out to chop down a real tree at the farm wasn't the same as it was when they were young....but those memories were great.
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Even though I love real trees, I have no interest in chopping anything down for myelf. We get our trees at the Farmers Market, buying directly from the owners of the tree farms, who have graciously already professionally chopped down the trees for us lol
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Even though I love real trees, I have no interest in chopping anything down for myelf. We get our trees at the Farmers Market, buying directly from the owners of the tree farms, who have graciously already professionally chopped down the trees for us lol
Ours consisted of getting the kids on the ground to hold the hand saw that made it 'look' like they were helping, the wife getting a pic of each doing so....then....all of them stand there as I wallow and flail about the bottom branches to saw through it all :lol If I recall correctly, we did this for three years in a row....then the farm we went to shut down due to their entire inventory of growing trees dying....and we never found a new place. So we did the usual like Boy Scout or church lot tree a couple times....then ended up in the fake tree realm.
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Even though I love real trees, I have no interest in chopping anything down for myelf. We get our trees at the Farmers Market, buying directly from the owners of the tree farms, who have graciously already professionally chopped down the trees for us lol
Ours consisted of getting the kids on the ground to hold the hand saw that made it 'look' like they were helping, the wife getting a pic of each doing so....then....all of them stand there as I wallow and flail about the bottom branches to saw through it all :lol If I recall correctly, we did this for three years in a row....then the farm we went to shut down due to their entire inventory of growing trees dying....and we never found a new place. So we did the usual like Boy Scout or church lot tree a couple times....then ended up in the fake tree realm.
I've done the "wallow" several times myself. HAHA, I laughed out loud because I've done that exact dance. "Oh look how cute! Elizabeth is sawing the tree with dad!" There are no pictures, however, of Dad covered in mud and sap trying to wrangle that tree back to the car. ;)
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So yesterday, in a cost cutting effort by the ridiculously rich law firm I'm contracted to, they told us they were cutting our Friday shifts, effectively costing each of my staff and myself at least 10k in the coming year. Of course it fell to me to tell my staff, probably one of the hardest things I've ever had to do.
This is a company that spent 3k on flowers for a holiday party, they're not poor by any means, and bleed money everywhere.
Merry Christmas.
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That blows and the timing is worse. I guess they aren't having lunch on Fridays then or something or people work from home?
I got served two nights ago. Being sued for a car accident where I WAS REAR ENDED can't make this shit up. Guy who served me the papers at my home says "merry christmas" as he leaves. I know it wasn't him or anything, but boy did I want to kick him off my porch when he turned around after saying that :lol
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You were rear-ended and you're getting sued? That's weird.
You didn't brake-check the guy or anything, did you?
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You were rear-ended and you're getting sued? That's weird.
You didn't brake-check the guy or anything, did you?
No, I changed lanes into hers and shes claiming it was too quick to react, she wasn't paying attention and jst barely clipped my car. Then a truck rear ended her. So the truck is also being sued (and possibly the real target here according to my lawyer). My insurance already ruled 0% liability over a year ago on this (and still hold this) and are going to fight it on behalf of me. Shes also claiming injuries now, but never claimed that initially (according to my insurance, I never really spoke to her). This lady also presented expired insurance to the police which is on the police report and a reason why I wasn't able to file a claim against her for this. Very fishy to me, but luckily insurance is on my side and they've already lawyered up. Just a headache before the holidays.
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She hit you from behind WITH NO INSURANCE and sued you?
Fucking hell
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My last accident where I was rear ended in my Hyundai by a Ford F450 (yeah, I lost that one for sure), the dude that hit me filed an injury claim against my insurance. When my rep called me to ask about how he was(he was totally fine), he actually was laughing about it.
That blows and the timing is worse. I guess they aren't having lunch on Fridays then or something or people work from home?
They've always been work from home on Fri, even though half the lawyers still show up. It's mostly a day for us to deep clean/prep for the week etc. I'm hoping my boss has work options for us on Fridays at other accounts, we have a ton of them, but I'm not holding my breath, especially for me since my hourly rate is way to high to be just a cook elsewhere.
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I hate people.
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That blows and the timing is worse. I guess they aren't having lunch on Fridays then or something or people work from home?
They've always been work from home on Fri, even though half the lawyers still show up. It's mostly a day for us to deep clean/prep for the week etc. I'm hoping my boss has work options for us on Fridays at other accounts, we have a ton of them, but I'm not holding my breath, especially for me since my hourly rate is way to high to be just a cook elsewhere.
Sorry man, hopefully they can get you some work though. That's some tough news to swallow before the holidays.
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Lonestar and cram, I am sitting here in disbelief for you both. Fuck this world sometimes.
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She hit you from behind WITH NO INSURANCE and sued you?
Fucking hell
I one time ideled (foot didn't even leave the brake) into the back of this woman's jeep cherokee. I got out to check if there was damage and to apologize. She shoo'd me off and called the police and paramedics where she was carted off in a neck brace. I then got served by something like 1-800-CRASH-LAW (I can't remember the exact name but it was something like that). Insurance got involved and from what I know my insurance company, Geico, paid her some small sum of money. Like 5 years later Geico calls me up and I come to find out that she was suing Geico because supposedly she didn't get the full amount promised from geico because it was contingent on her showing actual harm. The amount of time and phone calls I had to get on was absurd. I hope it goes smoothly for Cram.
RJ that really sucks about the cut on Friday's, I'll keep my fingers crossed something does come up at another account!
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That all leads to what I find exasperating: that so many Americans think "insurance" means "payday". We ALL pay for it in the end. ALL of us (well, check that; those of us that play by the rules).
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It's astounding people would go and take legal action over something so small. Point still stands is that she hit you from behind. Her fault.
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That all leads to what I find exasperating: that so many Americans think "insurance" means "payday". We ALL pay for it in the end. ALL of us (well, check that; those of us that play by the rules).
So like 10 of us?
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That all leads to what I find exasperating: that so many Americans think "insurance" means "payday". We ALL pay for it in the end. ALL of us (well, check that; those of us that play by the rules).
So like 10 of us?
If that.
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National parks in the US have gotten crazy popular in recent years. I am trying to make camping reservation for Grand Teton in June, 6 months to the day in advance. The electric campsites in popular campgrounds boo up instantly. Now I need to figure out plan B since I missed out on what I wanted despite being online to make the reservation at the exact moment they went active.
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National parks in the US have gotten crazy popular in recent years. I am trying to make camping reservation for Grand Teton in June, 6 months to the day in advance. The electric campsites in popular campgrounds boo up instantly. Now I need to figure out plan B since I missed out on what I wanted despite being online to make the reservation at the exact moment they went active.
You mean, you were online the moment they went on sale? I'm surprised they're only being made available 6 months out.
I wonder if they already have them spoken for if you're in some National Parks Club or something like that.
We spent a few days in Jackson Hole a few years ago. So nice out there.
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I've railed at the USPS before and am going to do it again. I ordered something last week. It shipped from Oregon. I live in IL, west of Chicago. I checked the tracking today and the package left Oregon, arrived in Indianapolis (?!?) and from there went to Cincinnati (??!?!?!?). Where do they think IL is? You already blew past it when you went to Indiana and you go even further East after that? Technically, you went the exact wrong direction. USPS is turning into FedEx, and it doesn't get much worse than that.
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^^ I ordered some stuff from a Jeep equipment supply place; I even called them, talked to a great guy named Jason, so that I could have the stuff (gift cards, with a free gift) by Saturday, before Christmas. Well, they arrived Tuesday, December 26th and no free gift (yet).
I don't really care about the free gift (I was going to give it to my step son) but it's a banner with the name of the store and it looked pretty cool, and he might like it on his wall.
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I don't know if this is the place, but when did the semi-defiant "Let's GO!" often followed with "Let's FUCKING GO!", often accompanied by appropriate flexing gestures, become a thing as an expression of... I'm not sure what? I've been meaning to post this for a while, but then, today, I've come across it FOUR TIMES (including the Tetris video, and TAC posted a Brady meme where he's saying that).
EDIT: And it's not just me; if you google "Let's go" there's a fairly healthy - though unsatisfying and inconclusive - discussion on that phenomenon.
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I don't know if this is the place, but when did the semi-defiant "Let's GO!" often followed with "Let's FUCKING GO!", often accompanied by appropriate flexing gestures, become a thing as an expression of... I'm not sure what? I've been meaning to post this for a while, but then, today, I've come across it FOUR TIMES (including the Tetris video, and TAC posted a Brady meme where he's saying that).
EDIT: And it's not just me; if you google "Let's go" there's a fairly healthy - though unsatisfying and inconclusive - discussion on that phenomenon.
Well, it's a rallying cry by one of the biggest sports icons of the last 20 years, often repeated from Championship games and such. Aren't these things bound to catch on in public/pop culture?
I mean, you know me...pop culture expert! ;D
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I never understood the use of it, but have no problem when people use it.
I was the most boring player when I used to play basketball because even when I had a great play, I would just walk back to my position to continue the game lol no flexing or anything.
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I never understood the use of it, but have no problem when people use it.
I was the most boring player when I used to play basketball because even when I had a great play, I would just walk back to my position to continue the game lol no flexing or anything.
I have no problem with it; I'm just a fascinated observer of these kinds of phenomena.
I'm like you; I think it was Barry Sanders, I could be wrong, but he once said something to the effect of "don't go crazy when you score; act like it's where you belong and that you're going to be there again soon" or something like that. I love that. Now THAT'S something I could complain about; the ridiculous celebrations in football; blows me a way that a team could be getting creamed by 20 points yet they're celebrating like they actually WON something (and don't get me started on the planned 'skits' some players run now. Please.)
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I use the "lets go" phrase all the time when I'm gaming. It's become a thing because very popular people have been saying it in sports.
One season it was huge on Big brother, the person who eventually won the entire game was saying "lets go" the entire show :lol
It's just another expression in life that took on something else because it became popular.
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I'm like you; I think it was Barry Sanders, I could be wrong, but he once said something to the effect of "don't go crazy when you score; act like it's where you belong and that you're going to be there again soon" or something like that. I love that. Now THAT'S something I could complain about; the ridiculous celebrations in football; blows me a way that a team could be getting creamed by 20 points yet they're celebrating like they actually WON something (and don't get me started on the planned 'skits' some players run now. Please.)
You are such an old man.
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I'm like you; I think it was Barry Sanders, I could be wrong, but he once said something to the effect of "don't go crazy when you score; act like it's where you belong and that you're going to be there again soon" or something like that. I love that. Now THAT'S something I could complain about; the ridiculous celebrations in football; blows me a way that a team could be getting creamed by 20 points yet they're celebrating like they actually WON something (and don't get me started on the planned 'skits' some players run now. Please.)
You are such an old man.
:tup
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hefstaddy, what are you talking about exactly?
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I don't know if this is the place, but when did the semi-defiant "Let's GO!" often followed with "Let's FUCKING GO!", often accompanied by appropriate flexing gestures, become a thing as an expression of... I'm not sure what? I've been meaning to post this for a while, but then, today, I've come across it FOUR TIMES (including the Tetris video, and TAC posted a Brady meme where he's saying that).
EDIT: And it's not just me; if you google "Let's go" there's a fairly healthy - though unsatisfying and inconclusive - discussion on that phenomenon.
AT LEAST 23 years ago, when Ray Lewis and the Ravens defense were at the height of their dominance.
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Speedbumps..
Now I understand slowing down to go over them, but do you have to come to a complete fucking stop and then inch over them? WTF? Don't be such a pussy!
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Speedbumps..
Now I understand slowing down to go over them, but do you have to come to a complete fucking stop and then inch over them? WTF? Don't be such a pussy!
It's these assholes that treat their cars like their most valued prized possession. Those dickheads that have their cars so low they have to go over them on an angle is what gets me.
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Get rid of speedbumps and use them to fill in potholes.
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Speedbumps..
Now I understand slowing down to go over them, but do you have to come to a complete fucking stop and then inch over them? WTF? Don't be such a pussy!
Counterpoint - my mom has alzheimer's and is fully wheelchair-bound and we rode in a medi-van with her today to get her to the hospital. The driver of the van slowed down almost to a stop every time we crossed train tracks, or entered a driveway, where it could be bumpy. He wanted to prevent her from slipping out of the wheelchair if we hit a big bump.
I found that to be extremely considerate of the driver, despite the frustration of other people like you.
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Speedbumps..
Now I understand slowing down to go over them, but do you have to come to a complete fucking stop and then inch over them? WTF? Don't be such a pussy!
I get where you're coming from but not all speedbumps are alike. There's a few in a shopping area near me were if you don't slow down you're going to be popping your front and back fender on each time you go over them, even if you have normal car clearance.
Similarly to your point and apologize to the thread if I've mentioned it before but when people come to a complete or almost complete stop to make a right hand turn off of a major road. It's not a stop sign just fucking turn and keep moving.
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Speedbumps..
Now I understand slowing down to go over them, but do you have to come to a complete fucking stop and then inch over them? WTF? Don't be such a pussy!
Counterpoint - my mom has alzheimer's and is fully wheelchair-bound and we rode in a medi-van with her today to get her to the hospital. The driver of the van slowed down almost to a stop every time we crossed train tracks, or entered a driveway, where it could be bumpy. He wanted to prevent her from slipping out of the wheelchair if we hit a big bump.
I found that to be extremely considerate of the driver, despite the frustration of other people like you.
Um…”people like me” would have no issue with an elderly transport van or a school bus.
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Yeah, "people like TAC" are far more likely to be behind a twenty-something creeping over a speed bump in their Corolla so as not to spill the bowl of cereal they're eating.
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Also, the driver wouldn't have to take precautions if the speed bump wasn't there.
I'm OK with speed bumps neer schools and parks but those in private neighborhoods are the ones that drive me batty. Especially, those that are not made of asphalt.
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Speedbumps..
Now I understand slowing down to go over them, but do you have to come to a complete fucking stop and then inch over them? WTF? Don't be such a pussy!
Counterpoint - my mom has alzheimer's and is fully wheelchair-bound and we rode in a medi-van with her today to get her to the hospital. The driver of the van slowed down almost to a stop every time we crossed train tracks, or entered a driveway, where it could be bumpy. He wanted to prevent her from slipping out of the wheelchair if we hit a big bump.
I found that to be extremely considerate of the driver, despite the frustration of other people like you.
Um…”people like me” would have no issue with an elderly transport van or a school bus.
Noted. Next time please take an elderly transport van. Unfortunately I don't think they'll let you ride in a school bus. :)
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Speedbumps..
Now I understand slowing down to go over them, but do you have to come to a complete fucking stop and then inch over them? WTF? Don't be such a pussy!
I'm just afraid I'll spill my beer if I go too fast
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Speedbumps..
Now I understand slowing down to go over them, but do you have to come to a complete fucking stop and then inch over them? WTF? Don't be such a pussy!
I inch over them because I fucked my first car's suspension up going over the many speedbumps at my university.
Speedbumps..
Now I understand slowing down to go over them, but do you have to come to a complete fucking stop and then inch over them? WTF? Don't be such a pussy!
It's these assholes that treat their cars like their most valued prized possession. Those dickheads that have their cars so low they have to go over them on an angle is what gets me.
Other than my house my car is my most valued possession, I'm a big car guy and the speedbumps height isn't regulated in the states so I'm for sure going to slow down and go over it carefully because I worked hard to afford a car I like, why damage it to save a few seconds?
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Also, the driver wouldn't have to take precautions if the speed bump wasn't there.
I'm OK with speed bumps neer schools and parks but those in private neighborhoods are the ones that drive me batty. Especially, those that are not made of asphalt.
We have one road near me - out in the fucking sticks, too - that has "speed tables". It's an asphalt bump, but it extends about five feet down the road. Absolute pain in the ass, and I know it's some local asshole that complained about someone speeding in their neighborhood.
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Speedbumps..
Now I understand slowing down to go over them, but do you have to come to a complete fucking stop and then inch over them? WTF? Don't be such a pussy!
Counterpoint - my mom has alzheimer's and is fully wheelchair-bound and we rode in a medi-van with her today to get her to the hospital. The driver of the van slowed down almost to a stop every time we crossed train tracks, or entered a driveway, where it could be bumpy. He wanted to prevent her from slipping out of the wheelchair if we hit a big bump.
I found that to be extremely considerate of the driver, despite the frustration of other people like you.
Um…”people like me” would have no issue with an elderly transport van or a school bus.
I worded that too strongly. The van wasn't marked and didn't look like a special transport vehicle, aside from a wheelchair ramp built into the back. I just found it interesting that on the same day I had a thought about how considerate the driver was, someone was complaining about people driving slowly over speed bumps.
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Speedbumps..
Now I understand slowing down to go over them, but do you have to come to a complete fucking stop and then inch over them? WTF? Don't be such a pussy!
Counterpoint - my mom has alzheimer's and is fully wheelchair-bound and we rode in a medi-van with her today to get her to the hospital. The driver of the van slowed down almost to a stop every time we crossed train tracks, or entered a driveway, where it could be bumpy. He wanted to prevent her from slipping out of the wheelchair if we hit a big bump.
I found that to be extremely considerate of the driver, despite the frustration of other people like you.
Um…”people like me” would have no issue with an elderly transport van or a school bus.
I worded that too strongly. The van wasn't marked and didn't look like a special transport vehicle, aside from a wheelchair ramp built into the back. I just found it interesting that on the same day I had a thought about how considerate the driver was, someone was complaining about people driving slowly over speed bumps.
Ironic..don’tcha think? ;D
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Back in October, I bought a ticket for Styx's mini "residency" in Vegas (the theater at the Bellagio the weekend before the Super Bowl) and booked a flight from Orange County to Vegas - leaving Friday afternoon and returning Sunday afternoon. The return flight was around noon, so that gave me time to sleep in a little, have breakfast and get to the airport.
A couple months after I booked the trip, the airline (Frontier) changed my noon flight to 8:something, and it's Frontier's only nonstop flight from Vegas to OC (which is less than an hour flight). It's one thing when a flight changes by a few minutes here or there, but four hours earlier is ridiculous. I bit the bullet and spent $60 on a different return flight on a different airline.
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Speedbumps..
Now I understand slowing down to go over them, but do you have to come to a complete fucking stop and then inch over them? WTF? Don't be such a pussy!
I inch over them because I fucked my first car's suspension up going over the many speedbumps at my university.
Speedbumps..
Now I understand slowing down to go over them, but do you have to come to a complete fucking stop and then inch over them? WTF? Don't be such a pussy!
It's these assholes that treat their cars like their most valued prized possession. Those dickheads that have their cars so low they have to go over them on an angle is what gets me.
Other than my house my car is my most valued possession, I'm a big car guy and the speedbumps height isn't regulated in the states so I'm for sure going to slow down and go over it carefully because I worked hard to afford a car I like, why damage it to save a few seconds?
Yeah I know, I'd be exactly the same if I were a car guy. :lol
I still get annoyed being behind you though going over one when I want to use it as a jump! ;D
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We're having a big leadership meeting next week at work with leaders from all of our sites. My boss has asked me to provide a "personal theme song" for the event. In typical me fashion, I am way overthinking this. Should this just be my favorite song? What is my favorite song anyway? Should the lyrics be meaningful to me? I honestly don't pay a lot of attention to lyrics. Do I care if the song will be at all palatable to everyone else there? Or do I go for a loud metal song? Likely only a few seconds of this will be played, if at all, so maybe I shouldn't care if I choose something like A Change of Seasons which is super long.
What a stupid assignment. It's causing me more anxiety and stress than the actual work that I need to prep for this meeting.
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We're having a big leadership meeting next week at work with leaders from all of our sites. My boss has asked me to provide a "personal theme song" for the event. In typical me fashion, I am way overthinking this. Should this just be my favorite song? Should the lyrics be meaningful to me? I honestly don't pay a lot of attention to lyrics. Do I care if the song will be at all palatable to everyone else there? Or do I go for a loud metal song? Likely only a few seconds of this will be played, if at all, so maybe I shouldn't care if I choose something like A Change of Seasons which is super long.
What a stupid assignment. It's causing me more anxiety and stress than the actual work that I need to prep for this meeting.
Go with the most popular song you know that you also like. The event is not about demonstrating your deep music tastes to one or two people who might get it, it's about making connections.
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We're having a big leadership meeting next week at work with leaders from all of our sites. My boss has asked me to provide a "personal theme song" for the event. In typical me fashion, I am way overthinking this. Should this just be my favorite song? Should the lyrics be meaningful to me? I honestly don't pay a lot of attention to lyrics. Do I care if the song will be at all palatable to everyone else there? Or do I go for a loud metal song? Likely only a few seconds of this will be played, if at all, so maybe I shouldn't care if I choose something like A Change of Seasons which is super long.
What a stupid assignment. It's causing me more anxiety and stress than the actual work that I need to prep for this meeting.
Go with the most popular song you know that you also like. The event is not about demonstrating your deep music tastes to one or two people who might get it, it's about making connections.
I know it's work, and we're not establishing deep connections with each other, but with all the talk of encouraging people be their "authentic selves" and other bullshit like that, I want to be at least partly authentic about my choice. So it will need to be a song that I genuinely love, but I'll probably choose the most mainstream and accessible song that falls into that category.
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We're having a big leadership meeting next week at work with leaders from all of our sites. My boss has asked me to provide a "personal theme song" for the event. In typical me fashion, I am way overthinking this. Should this just be my favorite song? What is my favorite song anyway? Should the lyrics be meaningful to me? I honestly don't pay a lot of attention to lyrics. Do I care if the song will be at all palatable to everyone else there? Or do I go for a loud metal song? Likely only a few seconds of this will be played, if at all, so maybe I shouldn't care if I choose something like A Change of Seasons which is super long.
What a stupid assignment. It's causing me more anxiety and stress than the actual work that I need to prep for this meeting.
Go with Mike Portnoy's version of Burn it to the Ground.
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I'm leaning towards Erotomania at the moment :lol
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I'm leaning towards Erotomania at the moment :lol
That’s actually not a terrible idea. It would say that you’re into complex music, and the title (if given) would confuse people. Those who don’t know what it means would probably draw incorrect conclusions, and those who do know what it means would start finding you “mysterious”… :rollin
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WASP’s Animal
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WASP’s Animal
Was my first thought too. :lol
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WASP’s Animal
Was my first thought too. :lol
The ultimate walk up music! :lol
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I had the 45 with the cockpiece sleeve. Lol
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I had the 45 with the cockpiece sleeve. Lol
I still have it!
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I had the 45 with the cockpiece sleeve. Lol
I still have it!
I do too at my parents house. We are seeing a realtor Monday. I was names executor of his estate a few weeks ago.
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I ended up going with Always Look On the Bright Side of Life by Monty Python. Figured it was lighthearted and funny with a good message.
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I've been scared off pulling out my wisdom teeth for years by people who said it would be painful and complicated and scary and that I should get ready for not eating solids for days after because it would hurt so much, there would be so much blood, etc etc. So I left them in, they moved all the other teeth around (I've read that this is not technically what happens, but my dentist told me that it did for me), I lost the ability to brush and floss really thoroughly around them because there was no space in my mouth, 3/4 got cavities (and maybe one of my permanent teeth got a cavity because of one of them), and one got infected so I had to go on a course of antibiotics after I pulled it out.
Either all of these people were talking out of their ass or I'm exceptionally tough because I pulled out 3 out of 4 so far, two on the same day even, on different sides!! and it was nothing!!!
Pretty sure I've had cavities fixed that were scarier. Wish I'd known before so I could have avoided some of these problems.
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I've been scared off pulling out my wisdom teeth for years by people who said it would be painful and complicated and scary and that I should get ready for not eating solids for days after because it would hurt so much, there would be so much blood, etc etc. So I left them in, they moved all the other teeth around (I've read that this is not technically what happens, but my dentist told me that it did for me), I lost the ability to brush and floss really thoroughly around them because there was no space in my mouth, 3/4 got cavities (and maybe one of my permanent teeth got a cavity because of one of them), and one got infected so I had to go on a course of antibiotics after I pulled it out.
Either all of these people were talking out of their ass or I'm exceptionally tough because I pulled out 3 out of 4 so far, two on the same day even, on different sides!! and it was nothing!!!
Pretty sure I've had cavities fixed that were scarier. Wish I'd known before so I could have avoided some of these problems.
I guess it depends. Two of my wisdom teeth didn't emerge completely and they had to basically saw them out from the bone (at least that's what they told me). My face was hilariously swollen for three or four days and I drooled blood on my pillow the first night or two. I even took a few days off work.
Glad it worked out for you!
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All of the stuff I've heard was for fully emerged teeth, luckily the sawing thing doesn't happen a whole lot so I wasn't scared of that specifically. Sucks that happened to you :sadpanda:
I would like to watch a live on-camera feed of dentist interventions just to see what they see :rollin I asked to take the tooth home but the dentist wouldn't let me because of the bacteria :(
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I had mine done when I was 18, and was swole for a good solid week. Liquids for a couple of days. I knew a girl in High school who had them done, and was at band practice the same night (she played flute).
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I had two of mine pulled in my early 30s.
Was running errands later that night. No post surgery meds.
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I had mine done when I was 18, and was swole for a good solid week. Liquids for a couple of days. I knew a girl in High school who had them done, and was at band practice the same night (she played flute).
. I also had mine done at 19 and was fine after a 6 pack of beer and the pain meds.
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I had mine out in my early 20s. I remember getting high off the medicine they gave me, eating ice cream and watching Lord of the Rings. It was great.
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I've been scared off pulling out my wisdom teeth for years by people who said it would be painful and complicated and scary and that I should get ready for not eating solids for days after because it would hurt so much, there would be so much blood, etc etc. So I left them in, they moved all the other teeth around (I've read that this is not technically what happens, but my dentist told me that it did for me), I lost the ability to brush and floss really thoroughly around them because there was no space in my mouth, 3/4 got cavities (and maybe one of my permanent teeth got a cavity because of one of them), and one got infected so I had to go on a course of antibiotics after I pulled it out.
Either all of these people were talking out of their ass or I'm exceptionally tough because I pulled out 3 out of 4 so far, two on the same day even, on different sides!! and it was nothing!!!
Pretty sure I've had cavities fixed that were scarier. Wish I'd known before so I could have avoided some of these problems.
It's honestly not that bad, I had 7 wisdom teeth (I blame chernobyl and my mom being pregnant with me during that time :lol) that I had all pulled, it really wasn't so bad.
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I had 7 wisdom teeth
:o please elaborate?? how, when, where :corn were they all sitting on top of each other into your jaw or :-X
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I had the two "wisdom teeth" on the left side of my mouth pulled sometime in my early 20s. It wasn't a big deal, but that's probably because I could still use the right side of my mouth. The "wisdom tooth" on the upper right side lives happily (so far) in the back of my mouth, and I don't have one on the bottom right.
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We're having a big leadership meeting next week at work with leaders from all of our sites. My boss has asked me to provide a "personal theme song" for the event. In typical me fashion, I am way overthinking this. Should this just be my favorite song? Should the lyrics be meaningful to me? I honestly don't pay a lot of attention to lyrics. Do I care if the song will be at all palatable to everyone else there? Or do I go for a loud metal song? Likely only a few seconds of this will be played, if at all, so maybe I shouldn't care if I choose something like A Change of Seasons which is super long.
What a stupid assignment. It's causing me more anxiety and stress than the actual work that I need to prep for this meeting.
Go with the most popular song you know that you also like. The event is not about demonstrating your deep music tastes to one or two people who might get it, it's about making connections.
This right here. No one is going to get or understand some obscure musical reference. While authenticity is important, you can usually kill two birds with one stone.
For me, I would most likely do something from the Beatles, or maybe a song like "Ordinary Man" by Ozzy.
Good idea for a thread, though, not going to lie.
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Go with the Undertaker's theme and walk in with hat, trenchcoat and smoke machine.
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I had mine out in my early 20s. I remember getting high off the medicine they gave me, eating ice cream and watching Lord of the Rings. It was great.
I only had one wisdom tooth out, but unfortunately it was one that grew in sideways and impacted the molar, so they basically had to completely disintegrate it to remove it piece by piece. Wasn't too bad overall but my jaw hurt like hell for a few days.
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I had 7 wisdom teeth
:o please elaborate?? how, when, where :corn were they all sitting on top of each other into your jaw or :-X
My dentist says it's a genetic thing common among people from my area (I'm Lithuanian, was born there). Personally, I blame Chernobyl, my mom was pregnant with me when that when down and I was only 500 km away :lol
Honestly my teeth were perfectly straight until my later 20's (I'm 37 now). All my wisdom teeth started erupting and pushing all my other teeth forward. I had to get my wisdom teeth pulled and also had to get braces.
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Supernumerary teeth are apparently not so rare, about 2% of the population.
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We're having a big leadership meeting next week at work with leaders from all of our sites. My boss has asked me to provide a "personal theme song" for the event. In typical me fashion, I am way overthinking this. Should this just be my favorite song? Should the lyrics be meaningful to me? I honestly don't pay a lot of attention to lyrics. Do I care if the song will be at all palatable to everyone else there? Or do I go for a loud metal song? Likely only a few seconds of this will be played, if at all, so maybe I shouldn't care if I choose something like A Change of Seasons which is super long.
What a stupid assignment. It's causing me more anxiety and stress than the actual work that I need to prep for this meeting.
Go with the most popular song you know that you also like. The event is not about demonstrating your deep music tastes to one or two people who might get it, it's about making connections.
This right here. No one is going to get or understand some obscure musical reference. While authenticity is important, you can usually kill two birds with one stone.
For me, I would most likely do something from the Beatles, or maybe a song like "Ordinary Man" by Ozzy.
Good idea for a thread, though, not going to lie.
I ended up going for Always Look on the Bright Side of Life thinking that it would just be a fun and lighthearted song. I guess this is going to part of some sort of ice breaker game. So apparently we're in high school youth group instead of adults at a business. :lol
Agree that it could be a fun excercise amongst people who love music to delve into people's songs and why they are meaningful to them. Go ahead and start the thread!
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Got my Yahoo feed today... "Terrifying" or some variant IN THREE DIFFERENT HEADLINES. FFS, isn't there another word we can torture at this point?
I tried to take a screen shot, but I'm inept.
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Got my Yahoo feed today... "Terrifying" or some variant IN THREE DIFFERENT HEADLINES. FFS, isn't there another word we can torture at this point?
I tried to take a screen shot, but I'm inept.
That’s terrifying Stads!
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That is an iconic post, Stadler.
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That is an iconic post, Stadler.
Hahaha
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Epic posts everyone!!!!
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Had a craving for a donut on Sunday so I stopped into a nationally recognizable chain. Walked toward the counter and whipped out my wallet. "Sorry sir, we don't take cash and you have to order from the kiosk."
For better or worse, this is what we are becoming on a grand scale. Cashless kiosk people. I don't like it but there's no stopping the train. Adapt or get left behind.
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Had a craving for a donut on Sunday so I stopped into a nationally recognizable chain. Walked toward the counter and whipped out my wallet. "Sorry sir, we don't take cash and you have to order from the kiosk."
For better or worse, this is what we are becoming on a grand scale. Cashless kiosk people. I don't like it but there's no stopping the train. Adapt or get left behind.
I go back and forth on the cashless thing. Less than 1% of my purchases annually are done in cash, but I still like the idea of it. I refuse to be a kiosk person though. I don't care how badly it fucks up the drive-through flow when I go to Dunkin'. I don't care how many kiosks are surrounding me. I'm saying "good morning" to someone at a counter, or I'm not getting anything from there.
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That's me too. A human connection. Plus, as a customer it takes me far more time to scroll through 25 donuts and select one so I'm the loser. I just want to tell some human, "two chocolate covered and a small coffee." There are fewer places every year where I can do that.
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I'm with you both on all of that. I work out of the house, so it's actually NICE to talk to a human being once in a while.
And maybe it's just the owners around here, but you're starting to see the effects of this: at the Dunkin Donuts around me, there's a very distinct level of quality between them. The two out by the airport? most of the workers look almost homeless. Untucked shirts, spills down the front, etc. What ever happened to having a clean, neat person at a register to take your order?
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The kiosk thing is so hit or miss for me. Sometimes it's just a simple, easy process that just works. Othertimes, it's a ngihtmare waiting for people who don't know what they are doing, wrong orders (still, like you can't fix the human mistkaes that still happen), long waits, and just a general lack of humanity to the whole process.
Having said that, I'm starting to become an app guy. Ordering from the app isn't so much that it's easier, it's that there's usually deals to be had to make me want to use an app for these chain restaurants. Chick Fil A's app gets me free food all the time for example (and I go there enough for lunch at work to make it worth it). But I went to Wendy's with my gf last week and was going to order from drive through before my gf stopped me saying she has the app and there's discounts on there. Saved some money and was able to easily order and then not waste time in the drive through line. I should add, there's an incentive for these companies to ahve you order through their app, they can track you which is the trade off.
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I am personally of the opinion that any store/business that has a human being in it should be required to accept cash. I'll let that go for vending machines or other automated things. Call me crazy, but we should be able to use the legal tender of a country to pay for goods and services.
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I am personally of the opinion that any store/business that has a human being in it should be required to accept cash. I'll let that go for vending machines or other automated things. Call me crazy, but we should be able to use the legal tender of a country to pay for goods and services.
I totally understand that. For me, I just almost never have cash on me, so what bothers me more are the cash only places (their right, as far as I'm concerned) or places that add a fee for a credit card.
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I am personally of the opinion that any store/business that has a human being in it should be required to accept cash. I'll let that go for vending machines or other automated things. Call me crazy, but we should be able to use the legal tender of a country to pay for goods and services.
I totally understand that. For me, I just almost never have cash on me, so what bothers me more are the cash only places (their right, as far as I'm concerned) or places that add a fee for a credit card.
I hate cash only as well. And CC fees should be illegal. They already account for CC usage fees in their pricing, so they're double dipping on CC users. I rarely use cash as well. It just bugs me that businesses can just decide not to accept the legal currency of the country they're operating in.
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Had a craving for a donut on Sunday so I stopped into a nationally recognizable chain. Walked toward the counter and whipped out my wallet. "Sorry sir, we don't take cash and you have to order from the kiosk."
For better or worse, this is what we are becoming on a grand scale. Cashless kiosk people. I don't like it but there's no stopping the train. Adapt or get left behind.
I go back and forth on the cashless thing. Less than 1% of my purchases annually are done in cash, but I still like the idea of it. I refuse to be a kiosk person though. I don't care how badly it fucks up the drive-through flow when I go to Dunkin'. I don't care how many kiosks are surrounding me. I'm saying "good morning" to someone at a counter, or I'm not getting anything from there.
I don't really care about the cashless things. I always have plastic with me, but I rarely have more than $10 cash. My bigger problem is when I occasionally enounter a cash-only business. There is a Mexican place near my house that everyone likes, and it's cash-only, and I sometimes forget that, so I have to use the ATM in the restaurant, which adds $5-6 to the cost of the food.
The kiosk thing, on the other hand, I fucking love. I'm not sure it makes all that much sense at a donut store, but it's great at a fast food place because everyone in my family has a special order, and I never feel like I can trust the person behind the counter to get it right. I couldn't care less about personal interaction with those people anyway. Same goes for grocery store/Target cashiers. The only time I go to an actual cashier is if I'm buying booze (rare) or the self-checkout line is really long and there's 0-1 people in the regular line.
I am personally of the opinion that any store/business that has a human being in it should be required to accept cash. I'll let that go for vending machines or other automated things. Call me crazy, but we should be able to use the legal tender of a country to pay for goods and services.
Putting what I wrote above aside, I tend to agree with this. I actually thought it was the law until only a few months ago when I looked it up.
Having said that, I'm starting to become an app guy. Ordering from the app isn't so much that it's easier, it's that there's usually deals to be had to make me want to use an app for these chain restaurants.
Agree on this as well. McDonald's usually has a free or $1 fries thing and a $1 any size drink thing, so I can often get a McDouble, fries and a drink for under $5. However, with a lot of places, I'm concerned that I'm getting up-charged on the app. I got an email a while back with a code for free delivery from Chipotle. Great! I input the order into the app. Let's say it was $20 total. I noticed that it was set for pickup, so I switched to delivery, and the price went up to like $26. If we hadn't had free delivery, it would've been about $32. Screw that.
And CC fees should be illegal. They already account for CC usage fees in their pricing, so they're double dipping on CC users.
I hardly ever see that anymore. The cafeteria in the building where I work does that for orders under $5.
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Having said that, I'm starting to become an app guy. Ordering from the app isn't so much that it's easier, it's that there's usually deals to be had to make me want to use an app for these chain restaurants.
Agree on this as well. McDonald's usually has a free or $1 fries thing and a $1 any size drink thing, so I can often get a McDouble, fries and a drink for under $5. However, with a lot of places, I'm concerned that I'm getting up-charged on the app. I got an email a while back with a code for free delivery from Chipotle. Great! I input the order into the app. Let's say it was $20 total. I noticed that it was set for pickup, so I switched to delivery, and the price went up to like $26. If we hadn't had free delivery, it would've been about $32. Screw that.
Honestly, I'm soured on the whole deliver thing now. I'm sure it's good for some people and some circumstances, but I more often than not just get in my car and go get the food. I can check it while I'm there so it's right and I save in some cases $20. I think some places got (and are still) greedy with the whole delivery thing, and that's not even taking into account the charges from Door Dash (which only has sparse service where I am).
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Honestly, I'm soured on the whole deliver thing now. I'm sure it's good for some people and some circumstances, but I more often than not just get in my car and go get the food. I can check it while I'm there so it's right and I save in some cases $20.
I've been beating this drum forever.
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The delivery is definitely going to come at a premium.
Fun experiment we did recently. My gf has the uber eats subscription so (I dont know the exact details) for like 10 bucks a month, you don't pay any delivery fees. I guess it makes sense if you use it a lot (my gf works from home and gets lunch delivered a bunch, and I know we will use it for lazy dinner nights). So I don't pay for the subscription so if I used ubereats on my phone, I'm paying normal price. I often will get 40% off coupons and its almost always the onyl time I will use the service as the discount gets it somewhat closer to a normal price (still more expensive than pick up, but not killer). Well, we tested her subscription vs. my 40% off on the same order..... and the same order came out 2 dollars cheaper using her subscription service over my 40% off coupon. I thought that was shocking. Just shows how much added fees and charges are on these services.
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I've always used the Chipotle app to order my food and go pick it up. I've been very soured lately on the recent couple of orders at the place near me. Very little food, constant mixups, missing toppings, just an overall terrible experience of late. I don't think I'm doing app orders anytime soon.
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Having said that, I'm starting to become an app guy. Ordering from the app isn't so much that it's easier, it's that there's usually deals to be had to make me want to use an app for these chain restaurants.
Agree on this as well. McDonald's usually has a free or $1 fries thing and a $1 any size drink thing, so I can often get a McDouble, fries and a drink for under $5. However, with a lot of places, I'm concerned that I'm getting up-charged on the app. I got an email a while back with a code for free delivery from Chipotle. Great! I input the order into the app. Let's say it was $20 total. I noticed that it was set for pickup, so I switched to delivery, and the price went up to like $26. If we hadn't had free delivery, it would've been about $32. Screw that.
Honestly, I'm soured on the whole deliver thing now. I'm sure it's good for some people and some circumstances, but I more often than not just get in my car and go get the food. I can check it while I'm there so it's right and I save in some cases $20. I think some places got (and are still) greedy with the whole delivery thing, and that's not even taking into account the charges from Door Dash (which only has sparse service where I am).
Yeah, I've been ordering less and less through ordering apps (I mainly use Grubhub). There is this restaurant near me, it is about a 15 min walk one way. If I want food from there, that is 30 mins round trip just to get food, so it is easier to order. Except that I started noticing that just ordering food for me and my SO, it was starting to be a minimum of $65, after delivery fees and what not. With tip it goes up to almost $80 (or over 80 if we add more items). I also noticed that the price on the apps where a bit higher than I remembered.
So when I want food from there, I just drive directly there before parking my car (I park 2 blocks from where I live. YAY for living in NYC lol). The same meals in person come out to $38 max, because the grubhub app prices are inflated to cover the app fees :lol The food is good, but I refuse to pay almost $80 for two take out meals.
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I've always used the Chipotle app to order my food and go pick it up. I've been very soured lately on the recent couple of orders at the place near me. Very little food, constant mixups, missing toppings, just an overall terrible experience of late. I don't think I'm doing app orders anytime soon.
I'm very iffy with using an app on chipotle or similar where they generally make the food in front of you. If I'm going to pick it up, I'm going to order it there and watch them make it, so there will be no mistakes. I do this with Jersey Mikes for example, and then I scan my app QR code when paying to get the points but I want to watch them make my sandwich.
Obviously if I'm getting delivery than you are giving that right away to watch.
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I always get a little annoyed at the Chick-Fil-A line when they have a person taking your order several cars away from the menu board. Yes, it moves the line faster, but even though it's a simple menu I don't always remember all of the details off the top of my head. How many nuggets come in the nugget meals? What are the salads now because those change with some frequency? What is the name of that special sandwich my wife likes that is limited time only? How much does anything cost?
I really should just use the app. My wife does sometimes and then I can just go inside and pick it up. Usually when I can order something online without a dedicated app I will do that.
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We got 4 pizzas from one of the largest chains for a birthday party last night, and it was $63! And it would've been higher if we got it delivered, which we used to always do until we saw that it costs $10 (tip included).
Unless I am high or drunk as shit, I am picking up all food from now on.
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Had a craving for a donut on Sunday so I stopped into a nationally recognizable chain. Walked toward the counter and whipped out my wallet. "Sorry sir, we don't take cash and you have to order from the kiosk."
For better or worse, this is what we are becoming on a grand scale. Cashless kiosk people. I don't like it but there's no stopping the train. Adapt or get left behind.
I've always been a cash guy. I like taking the cash out of the machine weekly and spending with that. I think people get lost in just tapping their card all the time they lose the real value of what they are spending. Tapping your card for a $50 purchase or handing over a $50 note are two different things. Handing the cash over IMO makes you think more about what you're buying and the necessity of it.
Saying all that, using cash is becoming more and more of a challenge and you certainly have to get on board with using card much more over cash. To make the transition easy though for me personally, I found a bank which offered good interest on savings. So I just moved some of money into a high interest account and to get the allocated monthly interest, I have to use the card a number of times in the month to get the high interest. Takes the sting off changing the way I like to operate.
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Honestly, I'm soured on the whole deliver thing now. I'm sure it's good for some people and some circumstances, but I more often than not just get in my car and go get the food. I can check it while I'm there so it's right and I save in some cases $20.
I've been beating this drum forever.
It's a fucking joke. And people wonder why they don't have money yet they will pay $20 to get shit food delivered cause they are too lazy to get off their fucking asses and drive 10 minutes down the road.
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We got 4 pizzas from one of the largest chains for a birthday party last night, and it was $63! And it would've been higher if we got it delivered, which we used to always do until we saw that it costs $10 (tip included).
Unless I am high or drunk as shit, I am picking up all food from now on.
Everything is too expensive for me these days.
Call me crazy, but I haven't gotten a single take out for at least 4 months, maybe 5 or even 6. I just find it harder and harder to justify paying top dollar for shit food when I can make a meal from supermarket supplies for a couple of bucks.
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Had a craving for a donut on Sunday so I stopped into a nationally recognizable chain. Walked toward the counter and whipped out my wallet. "Sorry sir, we don't take cash and you have to order from the kiosk."
For better or worse, this is what we are becoming on a grand scale. Cashless kiosk people. I don't like it but there's no stopping the train. Adapt or get left behind.
I go back and forth on the cashless thing. Less than 1% of my purchases annually are done in cash, but I still like the idea of it. I refuse to be a kiosk person though. I don't care how badly it fucks up the drive-through flow when I go to Dunkin'. I don't care how many kiosks are surrounding me. I'm saying "good morning" to someone at a counter, or I'm not getting anything from there.
The kiosk thing, on the other hand, I fucking love. I'm not sure it makes all that much sense at a donut store, but it's great at a fast food place because everyone in my family has a special order, and I never feel like I can trust the person behind the counter to get it right. I couldn't care less about personal interaction with those people anyway. Same goes for grocery store/Target cashiers. The only time I go to an actual cashier is if I'm buying booze (rare) or the self-checkout line is really long and there's 0-1 people in the regular line.
I understand about the special orders and the less humans between you and your food might be better, but I'm with Chino on this.
Also, I don't fucking work here! I am not punching in my order, ringing myself up, or returning my cart. I'm the fucking customer! Service me!!!
Also, maybe it was because I was younger and I had my whole life in front of me, but I don't ever remember being too busy to go to the store or pick up a pizza.
With apologies to the disabled...
Are we really that busy tiktokking or watching podcasts? Or watching an entire season of a show in one day?
How is it that everything in our lives is designed to save us time, yet no one sems to have any time to fucking do anything?
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We got 4 pizzas from one of the largest chains for a birthday party last night, and it was $63! And it would've been higher if we got it delivered, which we used to always do until we saw that it costs $10 (tip included).
Unless I am high or drunk as shit, I am picking up all food from now on.
Everything is too expensive for me these days.
Call me crazy, but I haven't gotten a single take out for at least 4 months, maybe 5 or even 6. I just find it harder and harder to justify paying top dollar for shit food when I can make a meal from supermarket supplies for a couple of bucks.
Definitely. I am trying to make it so if I am gonna eat the not so good food, it's from my kitchen or fridge. So much cheaper, and that's saying something with grocery prices right now.
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Had a craving for a donut on Sunday so I stopped into a nationally recognizable chain. Walked toward the counter and whipped out my wallet. "Sorry sir, we don't take cash and you have to order from the kiosk."
For better or worse, this is what we are becoming on a grand scale. Cashless kiosk people. I don't like it but there's no stopping the train. Adapt or get left behind.
I go back and forth on the cashless thing. Less than 1% of my purchases annually are done in cash, but I still like the idea of it. I refuse to be a kiosk person though. I don't care how badly it fucks up the drive-through flow when I go to Dunkin'. I don't care how many kiosks are surrounding me. I'm saying "good morning" to someone at a counter, or I'm not getting anything from there.
The kiosk thing, on the other hand, I fucking love. I'm not sure it makes all that much sense at a donut store, but it's great at a fast food place because everyone in my family has a special order, and I never feel like I can trust the person behind the counter to get it right. I couldn't care less about personal interaction with those people anyway. Same goes for grocery store/Target cashiers. The only time I go to an actual cashier is if I'm buying booze (rare) or the self-checkout line is really long and there's 0-1 people in the regular line.
I understand about the special orders and the less humans between you and your food might be better, but I'm with Chino on this.
Also, I don't fucking work here! I am not punching in my order, ringing myself up, or returning my cart. I'm the fucking customer! Service me!!!
Also, maybe it was because I was younger and I had my whole life in front of me, but I don't ever remember being too busy to go to the store or pick up a pizza.
With apologies to the disabled...
Are we really that busy tiktokking or watching podcasts? Or watching an entire season of a show in one day?
How is it that everything in our lives is designed to save us time, yet no one sems to have any time to fucking do anything?
Or on DTF?! ;D
Jokes aside, I'm with you 100%, it's madness.
Also, on the first bolded part, I read an article the other day about supermarkets and self service checkouts. Now I love them and love doing it myself as it avoids all the awkward chit chat with the person ringing up my groceries, but the article said how they are basically making the customer 'work for free,' and taking the customer service experience away from customers by cutting wages and making them do it themselves. It's totally true and even I have never really thought of it in that light.
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We got 4 pizzas from one of the largest chains for a birthday party last night, and it was $63! And it would've been higher if we got it delivered, which we used to always do until we saw that it costs $10 (tip included).
Unless I am high or drunk as shit, I am picking up all food from now on.
Everything is too expensive for me these days.
Call me crazy, but I haven't gotten a single take out for at least 4 months, maybe 5 or even 6. I just find it harder and harder to justify paying top dollar for shit food when I can make a meal from supermarket supplies for a couple of bucks.
Definitely. I am trying to make it so if I am gonna eat the not so good food, it's from my kitchen or fridge. So much cheaper, and that's saying something with grocery prices right now.
I eat pretty boring but it beats spending $15-$20 on a sloppy meal that half the time is fucked and half assed with corners cut every which way. I can't remember the last time I got take out now but it was totally fucked and I was annoyed with myself I'd spend money on that piece of shit that I can easily get 3 perfect, bigger and tastier meals at home with.
When take out for 2 people is upwards of $40-50, I'm sorry, I can't justify that anymore. If people planned their meals for a week or even a month, cut every single thing they buy out (coffee included), the savings would be massive.
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There are bills making their way through city and county governments requiring businesses to accept cash as payment. It's been a thing around here recently. There are restrictions, such as limiting it to purchases up to $200, for example. It's often done in the name of equity, because of course it is, citing that some people are unbanked, or underbanked. Yes those are terms.
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There are bills making their way through city and county governments requiring businesses to accept cash as payment. It's been a thing around here recently. There are restrictions, such as limiting it to purchases up to $200, for example. It's often done in the name of equity, because of course it is, citing that some people are unbanked, or underbanked. Yes those are terms.
There are definitely a number of people who just do not have bank accounts for a variety of reasons.
I imagine one argument in favor of cashless stores (in addition to whatever convenience and cost cutting is involved) would be that it makes them less of a target for robberies since there is no cash on the premises to take.
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Marijuana stores have to deal in cash and are thus much more frequently targeted by burglars. It's a big problem my state, and others, is trying to rectify, but they are hampered by federal laws.
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Tapping your card for a $50 purchase or handing over a $50 note are two different things.
Yeah, one is more convenient than the other.
Otherwise, they are both the same thing. Spending $50.00 of my money.
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Unbanked and underbanked. Wow. So many new descriptors coming into play over the last several years.
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Marijuana stores have to deal in cash and are thus much more frequently targeted by burglars. It's a big problem my state, and others, is trying to rectify, but they are hampered by federal laws.
It's why dispensaries usually have guards (maybe armed too). I haven't heard stories of dispensary robberies though, but stuff like that just may not hit my news feed.
As for being "unbanked" (new term for me) I think a lot of poor people end up being victims to bank fees that make it not worth using. Also, of course there could be dirty money if it's not going through a bank so there's always that angle too.
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Marijuana stores have to deal in cash and are thus much more frequently targeted by burglars. It's a big problem my state, and others, is trying to rectify, but they are hampered by federal laws.
It's why dispensaries usually have guards (maybe armed too). I haven't heard stories of dispensary robberies though, but stuff like that just may not hit my news feed.
As for being "unbanked" (new term for me) I think a lot of poor people end up being victims to bank fees that make it not worth using. Also, of course there could be dirty money if it's not going through a bank so there's always that angle too.
I worked with a few people who refused to used banks, and the common reason was "I don't trust banks with my money". At one point, my place of work switched to all electronic payroll/direct deposit, and those who did not have a bank account were given a prepaid card where the money would be deposited.
At the end of the day, people are using money less frequently, and it is only a matter of time until all money transactions become cashless/electronic (at least in the US). I would say 3 decades, maybe 4.
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Marijuana stores have to deal in cash and are thus much more frequently targeted by burglars. It's a big problem my state, and others, is trying to rectify, but they are hampered by federal laws.
It's why dispensaries usually have guards (maybe armed too). I haven't heard stories of dispensary robberies though, but stuff like that just may not hit my news feed.
As for being "unbanked" (new term for me) I think a lot of poor people end up being victims to bank fees that make it not worth using. Also, of course there could be dirty money if it's not going through a bank so there's always that angle too.
I worked with a few people who refused to used banks, and the common reason was "I don't trust banks with my money". At one point, my place of work switched to all electronic payroll/direct deposit, and those who did not have a bank account were given a prepaid card where the money would be deposited.
At the end of the day, people are using money less frequently, and it is only a matter of time until all money transactions become cashless/electronic (at least in the US). I would say 3 decades, maybe 4.
I only know of one person who says "I don't trust the banks" and its someone I know who is a criminal and has dirty money. That's his excuse and we all know it's BS.
Banks are insured by the government, so there's no reason to not trust the banks.
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Marijuana stores have to deal in cash and are thus much more frequently targeted by burglars. It's a big problem my state, and others, is trying to rectify, but they are hampered by federal laws.
It's why dispensaries usually have guards (maybe armed too). I haven't heard stories of dispensary robberies though, but stuff like that just may not hit my news feed.
I find it hard to believe that stories having to do with dispensaries don’t hit your news feed. :lol
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People who don't use their turn signals... I've come across this phenomenon three times today as I was walking to and from work. Please use them, so I can plan when to cross the street.
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People who don't use their turn signals... I've come across this phenomenon three times today as I was walking to and from work. Please use them, so I can plan when to cross the street.
If I could like this post, I would. This is absolutely something that I find exasperating, maybe even more than a tad.
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People who don't use their turn signals... I've come across this phenomenon three times today as I was walking to and from work. Please use them, so I can plan when to cross the street.
Boy, no kidding.
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People who don't use their turn signals... I've come across this phenomenon three times today as I was walking to and from work. Please use them, so I can plan when to cross the street.
A thousand times yes. It makes it harder to be a pedestrian. Also, if I'm coming to a stop sign around the same time as someone else, it's important that we know what each other is going to do. No signal means you're going straight. But I can't tell you how many times I encounter some clown who can't handle the herculean task of flicking that little stick coming out of the steering column (and 8 times out of 10, it's someone in a BMW or a Tesla). >:(
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People who don't use their turn signals... I've come across this phenomenon three times today as I was walking to and from work. Please use them, so I can plan when to cross the street.
Ha! Had a good one this morning, I'm behind a van and a right lane forms for people turning right at the upcoming light so I move over to the right, the van in front of me doesn't have a blinker on but is slightly eding towards the lane so I leave off the gas thinking the van wants to get in the lane. The van doesn't move over after a second, nor turn the blinker on, so I hit the gas to get moving and of course that is when the van, wiht no blinker, attempts to change lanes right into me. What an asshole. I honked and they moved back over before hitting me and got behind me.
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A thousand times yes. It makes it harder to be a pedestrian. Also, if I'm coming to a stop sign around the same time as someone else, it's important that we know what each other is going to do. No signal means you're going straight. But I can't tell you how many times I encounter some clown who can't handle the herculean task of flicking that little stick coming out of the steering column (and 8 times out of 10, it's someone in a BMW or a Tesla). >:(
My SO and I have a game we play when driving. How many Teslas, BMWs or Honda Civics break a traffic law. We also do this with colors (I'm a firm believer that white car drivers are the worse. Sorry to all those who drive white cars).
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A thousand times yes. It makes it harder to be a pedestrian. Also, if I'm coming to a stop sign around the same time as someone else, it's important that we know what each other is going to do. No signal means you're going straight. But I can't tell you how many times I encounter some clown who can't handle the herculean task of flicking that little stick coming out of the steering column (and 8 times out of 10, it's someone in a BMW or a Tesla). >:(
My SO and I have a game we play when driving. How many Teslas, BMWs or Honda Civics break a traffic law. We also do this with colors (I'm a firm believer that white car drivers are the worse. Sorry to all those who drive white cars).
As a civic driver, I break lots of traffic laws and accept responsibility :lol
Honestly, I don't find the teslas to be problematic drivers usually other than not moving over from the left lane.
BMW is probably the worse offenders.
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My wife makes fun of me for putting my directional pulling into our driveway.
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A thousand times yes. It makes it harder to be a pedestrian. Also, if I'm coming to a stop sign around the same time as someone else, it's important that we know what each other is going to do. No signal means you're going straight. But I can't tell you how many times I encounter some clown who can't handle the herculean task of flicking that little stick coming out of the steering column (and 8 times out of 10, it's someone in a BMW or a Tesla). >:(
My SO and I have a game we play when driving. How many Teslas, BMWs or Honda Civics break a traffic law. We also do this with colors (I'm a firm believer that white car drivers are the worse. Sorry to all those who drive white cars).
As a civic driver, I break lots of traffic laws and accept responsibility :lol
Honestly, I don't find the teslas to be problematic drivers usually other than not moving over from the left lane.
BMW is probably the worse offenders.
The thing is that in this area, all the young kids who think they are NASCAR drivers have a civic :lol
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A thousand times yes. It makes it harder to be a pedestrian. Also, if I'm coming to a stop sign around the same time as someone else, it's important that we know what each other is going to do. No signal means you're going straight. But I can't tell you how many times I encounter some clown who can't handle the herculean task of flicking that little stick coming out of the steering column (and 8 times out of 10, it's someone in a BMW or a Tesla). >:(
My SO and I have a game we play when driving. How many Teslas, BMWs or Honda Civics break a traffic law. We also do this with colors (I'm a firm believer that white car drivers are the worse. Sorry to all those who drive white cars).
Heh, I drive a white car, but I promise I'm meticulous about using my turn signal. Maybe it's different in different parts of the country, but I'd say something like 70% of cars here in the south are white.
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A thousand times yes. It makes it harder to be a pedestrian. Also, if I'm coming to a stop sign around the same time as someone else, it's important that we know what each other is going to do. No signal means you're going straight. But I can't tell you how many times I encounter some clown who can't handle the herculean task of flicking that little stick coming out of the steering column (and 8 times out of 10, it's someone in a BMW or a Tesla). >:(
My SO and I have a game we play when driving. How many Teslas, BMWs or Honda Civics break a traffic law. We also do this with colors (I'm a firm believer that white car drivers are the worse. Sorry to all those who drive white cars).
As a civic driver, I break lots of traffic laws and accept responsibility :lol
Honestly, I don't find the teslas to be problematic drivers usually other than not moving over from the left lane.
BMW is probably the worse offenders.
This.
As a long-time BMW driver, and excluding speed, I am the exception to the rule. I'm pretty reliable with my signal. I WILL be the guy driving past you on the right, though, while you inconsiderately take up the left lane while you're texting and flipping me the bird.
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As a long-time BMW driver, and excluding speed, I am the exception to the rule. I'm pretty reliable with my signal. I WILL be the guy driving past you on the right, though, while you inconsiderately take up the left lane while you're texting and flipping me the bird.
This 2007 Kia Sedona with 318k and counting miles driver will be doing the same.
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A thousand times yes. It makes it harder to be a pedestrian. Also, if I'm coming to a stop sign around the same time as someone else, it's important that we know what each other is going to do. No signal means you're going straight. But I can't tell you how many times I encounter some clown who can't handle the herculean task of flicking that little stick coming out of the steering column (and 8 times out of 10, it's someone in a BMW or a Tesla). >:(
My SO and I have a game we play when driving. How many Teslas, BMWs or Honda Civics break a traffic law. We also do this with colors (I'm a firm believer that white car drivers are the worse. Sorry to all those who drive white cars).
Heh, I drive a white car, but I promise I'm meticulous about using my turn signal. Maybe it's different in different parts of the country, but I'd say something like 70% of cars here in the south are white.
That was more of an attempt at a joke on my end :) I don't have any data to prove white car drivers are good or bad drivers. Given that black and white are the most common car colors, I would say it is a given to notice a bad driver in them more frequently, it's just that white stands out more, I guess.
And sorry Stadler, stats say that since you drive a BMW, you are likely to be a bad driver :biggrin:
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And sorry Stadler, stats say that since you drive a BMW, you are likely to be a bad driver :biggrin:
That tracks.
50% of drivers are "below average". Ever met anyone who readily acknowledges they are a "below average" driver? :lol
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A thousand times yes. It makes it harder to be a pedestrian. Also, if I'm coming to a stop sign around the same time as someone else, it's important that we know what each other is going to do. No signal means you're going straight. But I can't tell you how many times I encounter some clown who can't handle the herculean task of flicking that little stick coming out of the steering column (and 8 times out of 10, it's someone in a BMW or a Tesla). >:(
My SO and I have a game we play when driving. How many Teslas, BMWs or Honda Civics break a traffic law. We also do this with colors (I'm a firm believer that white car drivers are the worse. Sorry to all those who drive white cars).
That raises something I've noticed recently (or at least that I think I've noticed). It seems that there is a significantly lower percentage of cars on the road that something other than black, white and dark gray. Where are all the blue, green, yellow, orange and red cars of yesterday?
I WILL be the guy driving past you on the right, though, while you inconsiderately take up the left lane while you're texting and flipping me the bird.
What's wrong with that? Doesn't seem bird-worthy.
My wife makes fun of me for putting my directional pulling into our driveway.
I usually park at the curb in front of our house, and we're about 8-10 houses past a stop sign. If there's someone between me and the stop sign, I absolutely use my signal to let him/her know why I'm braking in the middle of the street.
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My wife makes fun of me for putting my directional pulling into our driveway.
When there's no one behind you?
There's nothing more infuriating being behind someone that turns into their house but doesn't indicate, just slows the fuck up and crawls up their curb.
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Tapping your card for a $50 purchase or handing over a $50 note are two different things.
Yeah, one is more convenient than the other.
Otherwise, they are both the same thing. Spending $50.00 of my money.
I knew that was coming and of course, it's the same, smart people know that. I just feel symbolically they are a little different. Maybe it's just the measures I've put on myself to help me be the tightest mother fucker on earth.
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My wife makes fun of me for putting my directional pulling into our driveway.
When there's no one behind you?
There's nothing more infuriating being behind someone that turns into their house but doesn't indicate, just slows the fuck up and crawls up their curb.
I'm on a side rode. Lol
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Tapping your card for a $50 purchase or handing over a $50 note are two different things.
Yeah, one is more convenient than the other.
Otherwise, they are both the same thing. Spending $50.00 of my money.
I knew that was coming and of course, it's the same, smart people know that. I just feel symbolically they are a little different. Maybe it's just the measures I've put on myself to help me be the tightest mother fucker on earth.
Is it really the same though?
I can think of at least one hundred situations where a 50 note would definitely help while the same amount in my card whould do absolutely nothing.
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Tapping your card for a $50 purchase or handing over a $50 note are two different things.
Yeah, one is more convenient than the other.
Otherwise, they are both the same thing. Spending $50.00 of my money.
I knew that was coming and of course, it's the same, smart people know that. I just feel symbolically they are a little different. Maybe it's just the measures I've put on myself to help me be the tightest mother fucker on earth.
Is it really the same though?
I can think of at least one hundred situations where a 50 note would definitely help while the same amount in my card whould do absolutely nothing.
Like when you hand your driver's license to the police after being pulled over for speeding? I feel they'd take the hint with a $50, but not so much with a VISA card.
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Bruh, I would never flaunt a fiddy to the po po
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Tapping your card for a $50 purchase or handing over a $50 note are two different things.
Yeah, one is more convenient than the other.
Otherwise, they are both the same thing. Spending $50.00 of my money.
I knew that was coming and of course, it's the same, smart people know that. I just feel symbolically they are a little different. Maybe it's just the measures I've put on myself to help me be the tightest mother fucker on earth.
Is it really the same though?
I can think of at least one hundred situations where a 50 note would definitely help while the same amount in my card whould do absolutely nothing.
Like when you hand your driver's license to the police after being pulled over for speeding? I feel they'd take the hint with a $50, but not so much with a VISA card.
Or the cheap hooker you found on the side of the road that has no card facilities.
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Like when you hand your driver's license to the police after being pulled over for speeding? I feel they'd take the hint with a $50, but not so much with a VISA card.
Well in that case, only one of the options isn't traceable.
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Tapping your card for a $50 purchase or handing over a $50 note are two different things.
Yeah, one is more convenient than the other.
Otherwise, they are both the same thing. Spending $50.00 of my money.
I knew that was coming and of course, it's the same, smart people know that. I just feel symbolically they are a little different. Maybe it's just the measures I've put on myself to help me be the tightest mother fucker on earth.
Is it really the same though?
I can think of at least one hundred situations where a 50 note would definitely help while the same amount in my card whould do absolutely nothing.
Like when you hand your driver's license to the police after being pulled over for speeding? I feel they'd take the hint with a $50, but not so much with a VISA card.
Or the cheap hooker you found on the side of the road that has no card facilities.
So when she says you can Insert, Slide, or Tap, she's not talking about my um...Master Card?
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And sorry Stadler, stats say that since you drive a BMW, you are likely to be a bad driver :biggrin:
That tracks.
50% of drivers are "below average". Ever met anyone who readily acknowledges they are a "below average" driver? :lol
(https://i.imgur.com/nUZxQdm.jpg)
When I got my BMW a couple years ago that was the first thing my boss sent to me :lol
Personally the turn signal drives me nuts. I don't know what it is about North Carolina but people love signaling left then aburtly turning right and vice/versa. Some of the drivers here have made me really consider selling my motorcycle.
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North Carolina drivers aren't great, and the use (or lack thereof) of turn signals is one big reason.
Another is being in the wrong lane. I don't care if you want to go slower than everyone else, but FFS get out of the left lane if you're going to do so.
But the worst is people attempting to drive in snow who absolutely should not be doing so. Which is most of them. I mean, fuck me, why are you going shopping in a blizzard? Monitor the weather, and go shopping before the storm hits, and while it's snowing (or raining, or hurricaning, whatever), STAY YOUR ASS AT HOME.
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I WILL be the guy driving past you on the right, though, while you inconsiderately take up the left lane while you're texting and flipping me the bird.
What's wrong with that? Doesn't seem bird-worthy.
It shouldn't be. You don't spend a lot of time in P/R, but I have a theory that I espouse often over there that America is in a paralyzing fit of deep insecurity. And a few data points I get on that are from the highway. You would be STUNNED how many people seem to think that driving on the highway is a battle of wills that only one can win. I will ABSOLUTELY be going 80 or more - and I stay in the middle lane where I can, UNLESS I'M PASSING - and when I come up on a car sitting in the left lane going 55 or even 60 (it's not the "speed limit" number that matters, it's your speed relative to the cars around you) and flick the lights and I promise you well more than half the people DO NOT KNOW what that means, and treat it as an act of war.
I make no bones; I drive fast. I have taken classes to be able to do so, and I have a car that suits that purpose. I also accept the consequences when and if I get pulled over (I don't make excuses, I don't waste the cops time, and I don't fight the ticket, I just pay it). The left lane is NOT THE CRUISING LANE. It is the PASSING LANE. There are a lot of people that don't understand that, and seem to feel that space is theirs to fight for with the intensity of 100 armies.
I'll give them a mile or two, then will move to the right lane and pass, if I can.
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And sorry Stadler, stats say that since you drive a BMW, you are likely to be a bad driver :biggrin:
That tracks.
50% of drivers are "below average". Ever met anyone who readily acknowledges they are a "below average" driver? :lol
(https://i.imgur.com/nUZxQdm.jpg)
When I got my BMW a couple years ago that was the first thing my boss sent to me :lol
Personally the turn signal drives me nuts. I don't know what it is about North Carolina but people love signaling left then aburtly turning right and vice/versa. Some of the drivers here have made me really consider selling my motorcycle.
I run across that scenario less than 5% of the time. The guy on the left is rarely so sanguine, and I rarely am the guy on the right in the second frame.
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I guess this is relevant and just popped up on my news feed :lol
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I Drive a Subaru, so I guess I'm a bad driver :)
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I wonder if the DUI thing is what's driving the RAM chart. I think RAM drivers have the most incidents of DUI. Surprised to see Nissan so low with all that big Altima energy
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Hey, I drive an Altima lol
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I guess this is relevant and just popped up on my news feed :lol
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I Drive a Subaru, so I guess I'm a bad driver :)
My step son and I have a running joke up here in the sticks: "Hey, I'm running late, I'm stuck behind a Subaru". There are a LOT of Subarus in my town and they invariably are the car in the middle of the road, going 28 in a 35 and oblivious to all that is around them. No signals, late turns, indecisive lane selections... nothing egregious, they're not driving on the sidewalk or anything, but just not conducive to an overall painless driving experience. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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Kia and Nissan here. Fuck I drive good!
I'm the best them.
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Hey, I drive an Altima lol
Is your Altima in good condition, or bad condition? Because that makes a difference :lol
(https://i.imgur.com/6iNXE91.jpeg)
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Well I guess that kind of debunked the Civic drivers (myself) being bad :biggrin:
And sorry Stadler, stats say that since you drive a BMW, you are likely to be a bad driver :biggrin:
That tracks.
50% of drivers are "below average". Ever met anyone who readily acknowledges they are a "below average" driver? :lol
This reminds me of Geroge Carlin talking about the average human intelligence. You're right. And honestly, while people won't admit it, it's very easy to spot those 50% below average drivers on the road. This includes the lady currently suing me >:(
Also, in defense of Stadler, I did get in his car before and I lived to tell the tale.
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I guess this is relevant and just popped up on my news feed :lol
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I Drive a Subaru, so I guess I'm a bad driver :)
RAM drivers are also the most likely to get a DUI as well:
https://www.thedrive.com/news/38238/ram-2500-drivers-have-the-most-duis-more-than-twice-the-national-average-report
The Ram ranks first of all vehicles with an average of 45.3 drivers with a DUI for every 1,000 drivers applying for an insurance policy—that's around 1 in every 22 drivers, or more than double the national average
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Is there also a stat for penis size and ram drivers? :biggrin:
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Tapping your card for a $50 purchase or handing over a $50 note are two different things.
Yeah, one is more convenient than the other.
Otherwise, they are both the same thing. Spending $50.00 of my money.
I knew that was coming and of course, it's the same, smart people know that. I just feel symbolically they are a little different. Maybe it's just the measures I've put on myself to help me be the tightest mother fucker on earth.
Economically, it's the same. Psychologically, it's not, but it cuts the other way for me than it appears to for you. For several reasons, I keep extremely careful tabs on money (more so than most people I know), and putting everything on a card helps me do that. When I have cash, it's more difficult. If I pull cash out of my account, that money is basically gone, and there's no real accounting for it.
I WILL be the guy driving past you on the right, though, while you inconsiderately take up the left lane while you're texting and flipping me the bird.
What's wrong with that? Doesn't seem bird-worthy.
It shouldn't be. You don't spend a lot of time in P/R, but I have a theory that I espouse often over there that America is in a paralyzing fit of deep insecurity. And a few data points I get on that are from the highway. You would be STUNNED how many people seem to think that driving on the highway is a battle of wills that only one can win. I will ABSOLUTELY be going 80 or more - and I stay in the middle lane where I can, UNLESS I'M PASSING - and when I come up on a car sitting in the left lane going 55 or even 60 (it's not the "speed limit" number that matters, it's your speed relative to the cars around you) and flick the lights and I promise you well more than half the people DO NOT KNOW what that means, and treat it as an act of war.
I make no bones; I drive fast. I have taken classes to be able to do so, and I have a car that suits that purpose. I also accept the consequences when and if I get pulled over (I don't make excuses, I don't waste the cops time, and I don't fight the ticket, I just pay it). The left lane is NOT THE CRUISING LANE. It is the PASSING LANE. There are a lot of people that don't understand that, and seem to feel that space is theirs to fight for with the intensity of 100 armies.
I'll give them a mile or two, then will move to the right lane and pass, if I can.
I mean this in the nicest possible way: I think you'd be a nightmare to depose or defend at a deposition. I don't think you actually answered my question about why passing a slower driver on the right would be a bird-worthy offense. I have a vague recollection of my mother and brother - both of whom grew up in the NYC area - telling me that it was taboo to pass on the right. Around here, it happens dozens of times on my work commute. Of course, southern California freeways are an entirely different animal, and the sanctity of the left lane doesn't really exist the same way it does in lots of places.
As for that bad driver chart, there are shitloads of a-holes in their 9mpg pickups (Ram or otherwise) who think that my neighborhood is a race track and stop signs are a mere suggestion.
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Tapping your card for a $50 purchase or handing over a $50 note are two different things.
Yeah, one is more convenient than the other.
Otherwise, they are both the same thing. Spending $50.00 of my money.
I knew that was coming and of course, it's the same, smart people know that. I just feel symbolically they are a little different. Maybe it's just the measures I've put on myself to help me be the tightest mother fucker on earth.
Economically, it's the same. Psychologically, it's not, but it cuts the other way for me than it appears to for you. For several reasons, I keep extremely careful tabs on money (more so than most people I know), and putting everything on a card helps me do that. When I have cash, it's more difficult. If I pull cash out of my account, that money is basically gone, and there's no real accounting for it.
It's only economically the same if you pay off the CC on time. Otherwise, it's economically worse to use a card. I think it is a mental thing for a lot of people who end up being preyed upon by credit card companies.
I WILL be the guy driving past you on the right, though, while you inconsiderately take up the left lane while you're texting and flipping me the bird.
What's wrong with that? Doesn't seem bird-worthy.
It shouldn't be. You don't spend a lot of time in P/R, but I have a theory that I espouse often over there that America is in a paralyzing fit of deep insecurity. And a few data points I get on that are from the highway. You would be STUNNED how many people seem to think that driving on the highway is a battle of wills that only one can win. I will ABSOLUTELY be going 80 or more - and I stay in the middle lane where I can, UNLESS I'M PASSING - and when I come up on a car sitting in the left lane going 55 or even 60 (it's not the "speed limit" number that matters, it's your speed relative to the cars around you) and flick the lights and I promise you well more than half the people DO NOT KNOW what that means, and treat it as an act of war.
I make no bones; I drive fast. I have taken classes to be able to do so, and I have a car that suits that purpose. I also accept the consequences when and if I get pulled over (I don't make excuses, I don't waste the cops time, and I don't fight the ticket, I just pay it). The left lane is NOT THE CRUISING LANE. It is the PASSING LANE. There are a lot of people that don't understand that, and seem to feel that space is theirs to fight for with the intensity of 100 armies.
I'll give them a mile or two, then will move to the right lane and pass, if I can.
I mean this in the nicest possible way: I think you'd be a nightmare to depose or defend at a deposition. I don't think you actually answered my question about why passing a slower driver on the right would be a bird-worthy offense. I have a vague recollection of my mother and brother - both of whom grew up in the NYC area - telling me that it was taboo to pass on the right. Around here, it happens dozens of times on my work commute. Of course, southern California freeways are an entirely different animal, and the sanctity of the left lane doesn't really exist the same way it does in lots of places.
As for that bad driver chart, there are shitloads of a-holes in their 9mph pickups (Ram or otherwise) who think that my neighborhood is a race track and stop signs are a mere suggestion.
Yeah, passing on the right is considered not the proper way to pass someone, but there's no option if someone is sitting in the left lane blocking traffic. I used to be much stricter on myself to not pass on the right, but a few years ago kind of just said "fuck it" since no one else plays by the rules, I'm not going to either. People don't normally give me the bird for doing so though, but it has happened, more so, a flash of the lights when I then pass in front of them as if I did something terribly wrong to them. It's basically a two wrongs don't make a right moment, but one is blocking traffic and the other is just recognizing that and trying to not be apart of it.
It's amazing driving in Germany compared to the US. These issues basically don't exist there because people stay to the right VERY strictly. I take that fairly seriously here, but it seems I'm the only one. It's amazing to me how many times I'm behind a car entering a highway and the car in front of me immediately moves into the middle/left lane once on the highway and then I just pass them in the right lane. Point is, why did they move over left in the first place? People in the US just don't stick to the right for the most part.
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Truck drivers are verifiably the worst.
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It's only economically the same if you pay off the CC on time. Otherwise, it's economically worse to use a card. I think it is a mental thing for a lot of people who end up being preyed upon by credit card companies.
Indeed. I usually use my debit card. I occasionally use a credit card if I can get some sort of reward/discount, but I don't have any credit cards I don't pay off every month.
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Hey, I drive an Altima lol
Is your Altima in good condition, or bad condition? Because that makes a difference :lol
It is in very good condition.
Is there also a stat for penis size and ram drivers? :biggrin:
Cross-reference that with Tapout shirts.
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There is no car faster than an Altima with expired plates.
(https://i.imgur.com/p62h71x.gif)
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Truck drivers are verifiably the worst.
So long as you mean pickup trucks, I am on board with you on this fully and completely with every fibre of my soul.
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I WILL be the guy driving past you on the right, though, while you inconsiderately take up the left lane while you're texting and flipping me the bird.
What's wrong with that? Doesn't seem bird-worthy.
It shouldn't be. You don't spend a lot of time in P/R, but I have a theory that I espouse often over there that America is in a paralyzing fit of deep insecurity. And a few data points I get on that are from the highway. You would be STUNNED how many people seem to think that driving on the highway is a battle of wills that only one can win. I will ABSOLUTELY be going 80 or more - and I stay in the middle lane where I can, UNLESS I'M PASSING - and when I come up on a car sitting in the left lane going 55 or even 60 (it's not the "speed limit" number that matters, it's your speed relative to the cars around you) and flick the lights and I promise you well more than half the people DO NOT KNOW what that means, and treat it as an act of war.
I make no bones; I drive fast. I have taken classes to be able to do so, and I have a car that suits that purpose. I also accept the consequences when and if I get pulled over (I don't make excuses, I don't waste the cops time, and I don't fight the ticket, I just pay it). The left lane is NOT THE CRUISING LANE. It is the PASSING LANE. There are a lot of people that don't understand that, and seem to feel that space is theirs to fight for with the intensity of 100 armies.
I'll give them a mile or two, then will move to the right lane and pass, if I can.
I mean this in the nicest possible way: I think you'd be a nightmare to depose or defend at a deposition. I don't think you actually answered my question about why passing a slower driver on the right would be a bird-worthy offense. I have a vague recollection of my mother and brother - both of whom grew up in the NYC area - telling me that it was taboo to pass on the right. Around here, it happens dozens of times on my work commute. Of course, southern California freeways are an entirely different animal, and the sanctity of the left lane doesn't really exist the same way it does in lots of places.
As for that bad driver chart, there are shitloads of a-holes in their 9mpg pickups (Ram or otherwise) who think that my neighborhood is a race track and stop signs are a mere suggestion.
I take that as the highest compliment. :) :) :). I didn't answer the question, really, because I don't know why. Flicking my lights for them to move over shouldn't be bird-worthy, but I get a finger more times than I get someone moving over, and it's not close. Not as frequent when I pass on the right, but it's not uncommon either.
I don't know. I can only point to this is their version of insecurity. They know they fucked up and are embarrassed and so take it out on me. Who knows?
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Truck drivers are verifiably the worst.
So long as you mean pickup trucks, I am on board with you on this fully and completely with every fibre of my soul.
Yeah, was thinking pickup trucks (the bigger the truck, the worse the driver). There are many highly skilled commercial truck drivers, but many of them are also very annoying (the ones who try to pass a truck in front of them going the same speed as the other truck especially).
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Fascinating topic.
I drive Honda’s exclusively, so I guess that makes me safe. :angel: I have a black Honda Pilot and a white Honda HRV so I’m not sure where that puts me in the “white car” argument. But I can assure you that I see signal every time no matter the situation. When I was learning to drive, my father and my driving instructor taught me to do it in every lateral move until it became so automatic that I don’t even have to think about it anymore. There is no brain process behind whether the situation warrants it, because it’s just one of those things that is like breathing.
And every hates the slow driver in the passing lane, so that’s just a given.
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By the way, to rub it in with Victor a bit more, I just remembered; about three weeks ago I was driving home in my truck - a pretty beat F350 with the 7.3L diesel engine, a rack back and a Fisher plow - and had to pass a Subaru on the road before mine. I was driving reasonably; it's a 10,000 lb. diesel truck with a plow, so it takes a half mile to stop, so I'm not speeding, but then again, it also needs to keep moving, else the engine gets bogged. The car in front of me kept speeding up and slowing down - no signal - and it was messing with my transmission as I kept having to hit the brakes while accelerating. Finally I said enough of this and passed them. I couldn't tell if it was a man or a woman but they were at least 90, 92 in age.
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Fascinating topic.
I drive Honda’s exclusively, so I guess that makes me safe. :angel: I have a black Honda Pilot and a white Honda HRV so I’m not sure where that puts me in the “white car” argument. But I can assure you that I see signal every time no matter the situation. When I was learning to drive, my father and my driving instructor taught me to do it in every lateral move until it became so automatic that I don’t even have to think about it anymore. There is no brain process behind whether the situation warrants it, because it’s just one of those things that is like breathing.
My BMW is one of the best engineering marvels in the world when it comes to the turn signal; I just have to nudge it with my knuckle and it clicks three times and resets. It's almost harder NOT to signal than it is to signal, and no old man blinkers for me!!! :) :) :)
And every hates the slow driver in the passing lane, so that’s just a given.
So why are there so many of them, then?!?! There are literally times there are NO cars in the right hand (of three) lanes, and yet the left lane is a parking lot. (I know the answer; the real culprits are the slow cars in the MIDDLE lane, but that's another discussion).
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They know they fucked up and are embarrassed and so take it out on me. Who knows?
IMO, they don't know they fucked up and assume it's you who has. (wrongly)
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So why are there so many of them, then?!?! There are literally times there are NO cars in the right hand (of three) lanes, and yet the left lane is a parking lot. (I know the answer; the real culprits are the slow cars in the MIDDLE lane, but that's another discussion).
This.
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They know they fucked up and are embarrassed and so take it out on me. Who knows?
IMO, they don't know they fucked up and assume it's you who has. (wrongly)
Well, my take was wishful thinking; I absolutely think you're right about that.
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By the way, to rub it in with Victor a bit more, I just remembered; about three weeks ago I was driving home in my truck - a pretty beat F350 with the 7.3L diesel engine, a rack back and a Fisher plow - and had to pass a Subaru on the road before mine. I was driving reasonably; it's a 10,000 lb. diesel truck with a plow, so it takes a half mile to stop, so I'm not speeding, but then again, it also needs to keep moving, else the engine gets bogged. The car in front of me kept speeding up and slowing down - no signal - and it was messing with my transmission as I kept having to hit the brakes while accelerating. Finally I said enough of this and passed them. I couldn't tell if it was a man or a woman but they were at least 90, 92 in age.
:lol Yeah, I see that a lot as well. Isn't there some stereotype that Subaru drivers are either lesbians, seniors and the outdoor enthusiast? or something along those lines. I love my Subaru, and will stay with the brand when its time to replace my car (unless something changes my mind of course).
And every hates the slow driver in the passing lane, so that’s just a given.
So why are there so many of them, then?!?! There are literally times there are NO cars in the right hand (of three) lanes, and yet the left lane is a parking lot. (I know the answer; the real culprits are the slow cars in the MIDDLE lane, but that's another discussion).
Regarding left lane, I remember asking a couple of years ago somewhere here, what the appropriate speed is to drive on the left lane. I don't get why someone would be on the left lane if the other lanes are empty. But if they are doing 20MPH over the speed limit on the left lane, and you are coming behind them at 25 over, I can see why they feel they shouldn't have to move (I don't agree with it, but just saying I get it).
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Lead, follow, or get out of the way. If everyone on the highway just stuck to that, it'd be bliss.
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By the way, to rub it in with Victor a bit more, I just remembered; about three weeks ago I was driving home in my truck - a pretty beat F350 with the 7.3L diesel engine, a rack back and a Fisher plow - and had to pass a Subaru on the road before mine. I was driving reasonably; it's a 10,000 lb. diesel truck with a plow, so it takes a half mile to stop, so I'm not speeding, but then again, it also needs to keep moving, else the engine gets bogged. The car in front of me kept speeding up and slowing down - no signal - and it was messing with my transmission as I kept having to hit the brakes while accelerating. Finally I said enough of this and passed them. I couldn't tell if it was a man or a woman but they were at least 90, 92 in age.
:lol Yeah, I see that a lot as well. Isn't there some stereotype that Subaru drivers are either lesbians, seniors and the outdoor enthusiast? or something along those lines. I love my Subaru, and will stay with the brand when its time to replace my car (unless something changes my mind of course).
My parents had two Subarus. The first one was the best car my parents ever had, and they'd tell you that, so when it was time, they replaced it with another that gave them nothing but trouble.
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The car in front of me kept speeding up and slowing down
Oh don't get me started, that's just the WORST
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By the way, to rub it in with Victor a bit more, I just remembered; about three weeks ago I was driving home in my truck - a pretty beat F350 with the 7.3L diesel engine, a rack back and a Fisher plow - and had to pass a Subaru on the road before mine. I was driving reasonably; it's a 10,000 lb. diesel truck with a plow, so it takes a half mile to stop, so I'm not speeding, but then again, it also needs to keep moving, else the engine gets bogged. The car in front of me kept speeding up and slowing down - no signal - and it was messing with my transmission as I kept having to hit the brakes while accelerating. Finally I said enough of this and passed them. I couldn't tell if it was a man or a woman but they were at least 90, 92 in age.
:lol Yeah, I see that a lot as well. Isn't there some stereotype that Subaru drivers are either lesbians, seniors and the outdoor enthusiast? or something along those lines. I love my Subaru, and will stay with the brand when its time to replace my car (unless something changes my mind of course).
My parents had two Subarus. The first one was the best car my parents ever had, and they'd tell you that, so when it was time, they replaced it with another that gave them nothing but trouble.
:lol such is life.
There's definitely a lesbian stereotype with suburus. From my understanding, they are generally good cars and people who have them seem to love them. My neighbor has 3 of the same Suburu which I think is ridiculous, but it shows the guy and his family love them.
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I'll say publicly I'm just busting Vmadera's stones; the Subaru is a great car (my step son had one for a daily for a while). I was going to get one for my daughter, before circumstances intervened.
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Fascinating topic.
I drive Honda’s exclusively, so I guess that makes me safe. :angel: I have a black Honda Pilot and a white Honda HRV so I’m not sure where that puts me in the “white car” argument. But I can assure you that I see signal every time no matter the situation. When I was learning to drive, my father and my driving instructor taught me to do it in every lateral move until it became so automatic that I don’t even have to think about it anymore. There is no brain process behind whether the situation warrants it, because it’s just one of those things that is like breathing.
My BMW is one of the best engineering marvels in the world when it comes to the turn signal; I just have to nudge it with my knuckle and it clicks three times and resets. It's almost harder NOT to signal than it is to signal, and no old man blinkers for me!!! :) :) :)
And every hates the slow driver in the passing lane, so that’s just a given.
So why are there so many of them, then?!?! There are literally times there are NO cars in the right hand (of three) lanes, and yet the left lane is a parking lot. (I know the answer; the real culprits are the slow cars in the MIDDLE lane, but that's another discussion).
What year is your BMW? They did away with the non-click clicky turn signal. When I got into mine I noticed they went back to the old school turn signal where it sticks when pushed down.
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Regarding Subarus I posted in the Automobile thread that I recently bought a Subaru Outback Premium 2024. This car is amazing. I am neither 92 years old nor a lesbian.
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Regarding Subarus I posted in the Automobile thread that I recently bought a Subaru Outback Premium 2024. This car is amazing. I am neither 92 years old nor a lesbian.
You're 80 and gay?
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I'll say publicly I'm just busting Vmadera's stones; the Subaru is a great car (my step son had one for a daily for a while). I was going to get one for my daughter, before circumstances intervened.
Oh I know, same with my comment about BMWs. I don't see myself owning one, but the few times I've been in one (X5 a few times, and I drove a convertible once, can't remember the model) they are sweet cars.
Regarding Subarus I posted in the Automobile thread that I recently bought a Subaru Outback Premium 2024. This car is amazing. I am neither 92 years old nor a lesbian.
I'm a Mid 30's straight male.
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Fascinating topic.
I drive Honda’s exclusively, so I guess that makes me safe. :angel: I have a black Honda Pilot and a white Honda HRV so I’m not sure where that puts me in the “white car” argument. But I can assure you that I see signal every time no matter the situation. When I was learning to drive, my father and my driving instructor taught me to do it in every lateral move until it became so automatic that I don’t even have to think about it anymore. There is no brain process behind whether the situation warrants it, because it’s just one of those things that is like breathing.
My BMW is one of the best engineering marvels in the world when it comes to the turn signal; I just have to nudge it with my knuckle and it clicks three times and resets. It's almost harder NOT to signal than it is to signal, and no old man blinkers for me!!! :) :) :)
And every hates the slow driver in the passing lane, so that’s just a given.
So why are there so many of them, then?!?! There are literally times there are NO cars in the right hand (of three) lanes, and yet the left lane is a parking lot. (I know the answer; the real culprits are the slow cars in the MIDDLE lane, but that's another discussion).
What year is your BMW? They did away with the non-click clicky turn signal. When I got into mine I noticed they went back to the old school turn signal where it sticks when pushed down.
I have a 2013 535ix
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I take that as the highest compliment. :) :) :).
Apropos of nothing, I once had one of our outside attorneys tell me that I was the best witness he ever defended. I knew he was just shining the flagpole since the deposition was of the PMQ variety, was conducted by phone, and only lasted about 45 minutes.
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I do have one pet peeve about the left lane.
If I decide that I want to pass a very long line of cars being held up by a guy at the front doing 60 and I get into the left lane and begin passing them doing 70 don’t you dare ride my ass just because you would rather be doing 80! I am PASSING
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Tapping your card for a $50 purchase or handing over a $50 note are two different things.
Yeah, one is more convenient than the other.
Otherwise, they are both the same thing. Spending $50.00 of my money.
I knew that was coming and of course, it's the same, smart people know that. I just feel symbolically they are a little different. Maybe it's just the measures I've put on myself to help me be the tightest mother fucker on earth.
Economically, it's the same. Psychologically, it's not, but it cuts the other way for me than it appears to for you. For several reasons, I keep extremely careful tabs on money (more so than most people I know), and putting everything on a card helps me do that. When I have cash, it's more difficult. If I pull cash out of my account, that money is basically gone, and there's no real accounting for it.
I can definitely see you're angle on that one. Myself starting to use my card more, I do the same thing. Not that I 'spend' a lot, but I'm definitely keeping tabs on what's coming out and still sticking to my allocated budget. I guess working with the public for so long and on customer service I've seen the average person just kind of be a bit flippant with just tapping their card.
The amount of times a customer would tap their card and then decline and they would say, 'oh sorry, I forgot to transfer money into that account.' This happened so often and I still don't really understand it.
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For my next car, I'd love to splurge and get a Suburu WRX, that's my dream car i think.
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I do have one pet peeve about the left lane.
If I decide that I want to pass a very long line of cars being held up by a guy at the front doing 60 and I get into the left lane and begin passing them doing 70 don’t you dare ride my ass just because you would rather be doing 80! I am PASSING
If you're not passing fast enough, you're part of the problem too.
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I do have one pet peeve about the left lane.
If I decide that I want to pass a very long line of cars being held up by a guy at the front doing 60 and I get into the left lane and begin passing them doing 70 don’t you dare ride my ass just because you would rather be doing 80! I am PASSING
Another POTY candidate right here. It’s the PASSING lane, not the SPEEDING lane. If I’m passing cars in the middle lane, I have no obligation to get into that middle lane because someone behind me wants to pass me. They can wait until I can conveniently get into the middle lane at my speed and let you by.
I do have one pet peeve about the left lane.
If I decide that I want to pass a very long line of cars being held up by a guy at the front doing 60 and I get into the left lane and begin passing them doing 70 don’t you dare ride my ass just because you would rather be doing 80! I am PASSING
If you're not passing fast enough, you're part of the problem too.
sorry bro, but that’s horseshit. Your definition of “fast enough” is not my problem.
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I do have one pet peeve about the left lane.
If I decide that I want to pass a very long line of cars being held up by a guy at the front doing 60 and I get into the left lane and begin passing them doing 70 don’t you dare ride my ass just because you would rather be doing 80! I am PASSING
If you're not passing fast enough, you're part of the problem too.
No. I will get back in the right lane when I am finished passing. I’m not risking the po po just because you can’t wait 60 seconds. I am using the passing lane for its intended purpose.
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I do have one pet peeve about the left lane.
If I decide that I want to pass a very long line of cars being held up by a guy at the front doing 60 and I get into the left lane and begin passing them doing 70 don’t you dare ride my ass just because you would rather be doing 80! I am PASSING
What's the speed limit in this situation?
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And since when has the police been called 'po po?' What the fuck? That's the second time I've read that on here. I think Joe said that yesterday too!
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That's an ebonics term. Old white guys like me say that to sound cool.
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That's an ebonics term. Old white guys like me say that to sound cool.
:lol Sounds like a Teletubbies character.
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That's an ebonics term. Old white guys like me say that to sound cool.
:lol Sounds like a Teletubbies character.
:lol
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I do have one pet peeve about the left lane.
If I decide that I want to pass a very long line of cars being held up by a guy at the front doing 60 and I get into the left lane and begin passing them doing 70 don’t you dare ride my ass just because you would rather be doing 80! I am PASSING
If you're not passing fast enough, you're part of the problem too.
sorry bro, but that’s horseshit. Your definition of “fast enough” is not my problem.
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:lol :lol
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Ok, so in my town, we don't have an actual dump, or landfill. I don't think anyone does anymore, but we have a transfer station, where you drive up to one dumpster to throw your trash in and then another to throw out the recyclables.
Anyway, I go today, and I'm the third car in line at the dumpster. I could go around to the other side, but then I'd have to circle around again to hit the recycles.
So the guy in the first car throws his shit away, and then recognizes the guy in the second car, and then proceed to have an involved conversation.
WTF?? A wave and a "hi ya doin'" should suffice. So I fucking pull around and use the other side. I mean, c'mon....move the fuck out of the way.
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Ok, so in my town, we don't have an actual dump, or landfill. I don't think anyone does anymore, but we have a transfer station, where you drive up to one dumpster to throw your trash in and then another to throw out the recyclables.
Anyway, I go today, and I'm the third car in line at the dumpster. I could go around to the other side, but then I'd have to circle around again to hit the recycles.
So the guy in the first car throws his shit away, and then recognizes the guy in the second car, and then proceed to have an involved conversation.
WTF?? A wave and a "hi ya doin'" should suffice. So I fucking pull around and use the other side. I mean, c'mon....move the fuck out of the way.
This sort of thing fucks me off. No fucking consideration for any other cunt. Completely obvious to what's going on. Like they are the most important people on earth.
I went for a jog with one of the swim instructors I've stayed in contact with yesterday at a trail. We pass this walking group with about 30 people. They were walking so it was fine, they were mostly in the middle and on one side, we were going the other way and stuck firmly to the left. There was enough room for us and a lot more of them, so that's cool.
On our loop back towards the end of our run near where we started, there's a long stretch and we see them all stopped and all having conversations with each other but strewn across the whole fucking path. They could see us coming yet not one fucker moved one step aside to give us any room. We had to jog off the trail jumping a branch cause none of these inconsiderate cunts would move a couple of fucking inches to give us a small section to run through. I was fucking furious and almost abused them as I went past. The guy I was with is a super nice dude with no anger in him at all so I thought better of it, but fuck.......
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Yup. Fucking move!
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Isn't there some stereotype that Subaru drivers are either lesbians, seniors and the outdoor enthusiast? or something along those lines. I love my Subaru, and will stay with the brand when its time to replace my car (unless something changes my mind of course).
Hilarious. Up here the part about the outdoor enthusiast (or at least those who want to think of themselves as outdoor enthusiasts) is 100% accurate. They are seem as a bit of a status symbol here with that crowd. They even refer to their them as a "Subi" (pronounced Sue-Bee)
Maybe because it is older (2005) but I hate our Subaru. It runs fine, though has been making this rumbling sound while driving that the dealer wasn't able to diagnose. There are so many little annoyances. The headlights are impossible to replace. One of them you basically have to remove the battery to get your hands in the right spot. The dome lights always need replacing. There is about 2cm under the front seats. If something falls under there, it's gone forever.
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For my next car, I'd love to splurge and get a Suburu WRX, that's my dream car i think.
I got to have one as a loaner for a little bit once and it's an amazing car.
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I have only driven a Pontiac ('88 6000 - what a good car, and an '03 Grand Am) and Chevy (2002 and 2015 Impala).
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For my next car, I'd love to splurge and get a Suburu WRX, that's my dream car i think.
I got to have one as a loaner for a little bit once and it's an amazing car.
Yeah I bet. That's a hell of a loaner! I've never driven one but just love the look of both the interior and exterior.
50-60K for a liability like that though seems a lot but I have a 2014 Lancer VRX which has just clocked 290 000kms so an upgrade is certainly on the cards soon anyway.
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For my next car, I'd love to splurge and get a Suburu WRX, that's my dream car i think.
That car is awesome, I'm keeping an eye on it too. Maybe in a couple of years I'll make a move on it.
And dude what's with the car prices in Australia?! My brother lives in Brisbane and had to pay insane prices to get a used Toyota Prada. I checked some dealers there and base level Subaru's were $50,000 AUD. Ridiculous!
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I do have one pet peeve about the left lane.
If I decide that I want to pass a very long line of cars being held up by a guy at the front doing 60 and I get into the left lane and begin passing them doing 70 don’t you dare ride my ass just because you would rather be doing 80! I am PASSING
What's the speed limit in this situation?
Most of the speed limits in my area are exactly 60.
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I do have one pet peeve about the left lane.
If I decide that I want to pass a very long line of cars being held up by a guy at the front doing 60 and I get into the left lane and begin passing them doing 70 don’t you dare ride my ass just because you would rather be doing 80! I am PASSING
What's the speed limit in this situation?
Most of the speed limits in my area are exactly 60.
Fair enough then.
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I do have one pet peeve about the left lane.
If I decide that I want to pass a very long line of cars being held up by a guy at the front doing 60 and I get into the left lane and begin passing them doing 70 don’t you dare ride my ass just because you would rather be doing 80! I am PASSING
If you're not passing fast enough, you're part of the problem too.
sorry bro, but that’s horseshit. Your definition of “fast enough” is not my problem.
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Exactly!
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For my next car, I'd love to splurge and get a Suburu WRX, that's my dream car i think.
I got to have one as a loaner for a little bit once and it's an amazing car.
Yeah I bet. That's a hell of a loaner! I've never driven one but just love the look of both the interior and exterior.
50-60K for a liability like that though seems a lot but I have a 2014 Lancer VRX which has just clocked 290 000kms so an upgrade is certainly on the cards soon anyway.
That's quite a bit of kilometers. I'm a huge fan of the Lancer, I really wish they didn't stop making the EVO.
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Isn't there some stereotype that Subaru drivers are either lesbians, seniors and the outdoor enthusiast? or something along those lines. I love my Subaru, and will stay with the brand when its time to replace my car (unless something changes my mind of course).
Maybe because it is older (2005) but I hate our Subaru. It runs fine, though has been making this rumbling sound while driving that the dealer wasn't able to diagnose. There are so many little annoyances. The headlights are impossible to replace. One of them you basically have to remove the battery to get your hands in the right spot. The dome lights always need replacing. There is about 2cm under the front seats. If something falls under there, it's gone forever.
I own a 2013 Subaru Legacy. I have to open up the wheel wells to replace my low beams. That’s right, you can’t do it when in the hood. Fucking stupid. Otherwise, it’s been a pretty good car, if a little boring as it has a CVT. But my driver side headlight burned out in March last year, and I put it off till November because it’s such a pain to replace.
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I drive a boring reliable Nissan Altima, but my wife drives a big ass GMC Sierra. The fact that it's a gas hog would be concerning except for the fact that she works from home 100% of the time, so it doesn't get driven a whole hell of a lot. But growing up, she always wanted a big truck, and there are certainly times where they come in handy, so when we got to the place that it fit in the budget comfortably, she got one. And she LOVES it.
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I do have one pet peeve about the left lane.
If I decide that I want to pass a very long line of cars being held up by a guy at the front doing 60 and I get into the left lane and begin passing them doing 70 don’t you dare ride my ass just because you would rather be doing 80! I am PASSING
What's the speed limit in this situation?
Under the circumstances described, probably 55.
And since when has the police been called 'po po?' What the fuck? That's the second time I've read that on here. I think Joe said that yesterday too!
Since I was a teenager. https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Popo-slang-for-police#:~:text=The%20word%20has%20its%20origins,%2C%20spell%20out%20%E2%80%9CPOPO%E2%80%9D.
Ok, so in my town, we don't have an actual dump, or landfill. I don't think anyone does anymore, but we have a transfer station, where you drive up to one dumpster to throw your trash in and then another to throw out the recyclables.
Wait...what? You have to put your trash in your car and drive it somewhere? You don't put it at the curb and have it picked up by a trash truck?
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Our town 15 years ago threatened taxes to go up unless we started to recycle and go to buying town bags. People are dumb. They voted it in, then sold the dump to a company and now we are charged to dump items there. The town garbage bags were so cheap that I still had to buy garbage bags at the grocery store as well and then put them into their bags. Cost us much me than people expected and our taxes still rose over the years, of course.
People are so dumb to think government will try to save us money.
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For my next car, I'd love to splurge and get a Suburu WRX, that's my dream car i think.
I got to have one as a loaner for a little bit once and it's an amazing car.
Yeah I bet. That's a hell of a loaner! I've never driven one but just love the look of both the interior and exterior.
50-60K for a liability like that though seems a lot but I have a 2014 Lancer VRX which has just clocked 290 000kms so an upgrade is certainly on the cards soon anyway.
That's quite a bit of kilometers. I'm a huge fan of the Lancer, I really wish they didn't stop making the EVO.
I couldn't believe it when they announced that they were discontinuing the Lancer. Would have stuck with them for life and also would be looking at an Evo over a WRX. Madness.
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I have one class this year that just takes everything as a joke. Not every student, but about half of them, mostly boys but some girls too.
We are over halfway through the year and they act little kids. I know teenagers will be teenagers, but this is nothing like I have seen. It's immaturity and no care to the max. Probably about 12-14 kids at the most. I told them today that I cannot help them with their work after lunch because I am too busy babysitting them, and managing their behavior will have to come before helping with math.
I might be forgetting something about classroom management, but they are so quick to act silly. Just a vent.
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People who try to try to talk to me when I've got headphones on.
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I have one class this year that just takes everything as a joke. Not every student, but about half of them, mostly boys but some girls too.
We are over halfway through the year and they act little kids. I know teenagers will be teenagers, but this is nothing like I have seen. It's immaturity and no care to the max. Probably about 12-14 kids at the most. I told them today that I cannot help them with their work after lunch because I am too busy babysitting them, and managing their behavior will have to come before helping with math.
I might be forgetting something about classroom management, but they are so quick to act silly. Just a vent.
The elementary school I attended from 1973-81 (1st through 8th grade) has hosted a youth baseball league since I was a kid (Little League when I was there and PONY now). I played there, and my son played there from 2011-15. In the course of his tenure, I learned that my 6th grade teacher was still at the school and was about to retire (my class was her first class when she was a new teacher). We also ran into a few other kids of parents who were close in age to me, including one from the year behind me. This woman told me that, when she got into this teacher's class, the teacher was super strict, and the reason was apparently because my class was so terrible. Apparently, we almost caused her to quit teaching after her first year. In other words, kids can be shitty little shitheads sometimes.
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Just tried a new lunch spot (a brewery) with some co-workers.
This place had no waitstaff. You have to walk up to the bar to get a glass of water, and all the food is ordered on your phone by scanning QR codes. A runner brings it out when it's ready. When you're done, you take your trays and everything to a designated spot with a garbage like at a McDonalds. A grilled cheese and bacon with a side of fries was $21 before tip... with no waitstaff!
I'm so fucking sick of it.
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Was it some really fancy grilled cheese? I mean, I don't think wait staff vs. no wait staff really determines the price of the food. I've got to think for that you are eating some really nice cheese and bread, or a large serving. If its neitehr, then screw going back to that place. Also, no staff, no point in tipping.
But seriously, the cost of a basic lunch these days is ridiculous.
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Was it some really fancy grilled cheese? I mean, I don't think wait staff vs. no wait staff really determines the price of the food. I've got to think for that you are eating some really nice cheese and bread, or a large serving. If its neitehr, then screw going back to that place. Also, no staff, no point in tipping.
But seriously, the cost of a basic lunch these days is ridiculous.
It's getting insane. Even here, in NYC, a grilled cheese and fries for 21 bucks is nuts. And our prices are already stupefying.
Thanks Obama.
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Was it some really fancy grilled cheese? I mean, I don't think wait staff vs. no wait staff really determines the price of the food. I've got to think for that you are eating some really nice cheese and bread, or a large serving. If its neitehr, then screw going back to that place. Also, no staff, no point in tipping.
But seriously, the cost of a basic lunch these days is ridiculous.
It's getting insane. Even here, in NYC, a grilled cheese and fries for 21 bucks is nuts. And our prices are already stupefying.
Thanks Obama.
My buddy who works in NYC was ranting about lunch prices the other day in our group chat. I get it, it's insane. Of course he then ripped on me for using apps to get discounts (I stated this in another thread here about my strategy to cut down on lunch costs) :lol But apps don't really help you for the mom and pop shops in the city.
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Just tried a new lunch spot (a brewery) with some co-workers.
This place had no waitstaff. You have to walk up to the bar to get a glass of water, and all the food is ordered on your phone by scanning QR codes. A runner brings it out when it's ready. When you're done, you take your trays and everything to a designated spot with a garbage like at a McDonalds. A grilled cheese and bacon with a side of fries was $21 before tip... with no waitstaff!
I'm so fucking sick of it.
Before tip?? No chance I'd leave a tip. Also no chance I'd ever scan a QR code for anything.
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I have one class this year that just takes everything as a joke. Not every student, but about half of them, mostly boys but some girls too.
We are over halfway through the year and they act little kids. I know teenagers will be teenagers, but this is nothing like I have seen. It's immaturity and no care to the max. Probably about 12-14 kids at the most. I told them today that I cannot help them with their work after lunch because I am too busy babysitting them, and managing their behavior will have to come before helping with math.
I might be forgetting something about classroom management, but they are so quick to act silly. Just a vent.
The elementary school I attended from 1973-81 (1st through 8th grade) has hosted a youth baseball league since I was a kid (Little League when I was there and PONY now). I played there, and my son played there from 2011-15. In the course of his tenure, I learned that my 6th grade teacher was still at the school and was about to retire (my class was her first class when she was a new teacher). We also ran into a few other kids of parents who were close in age to me, including one from the year behind me. This woman told me that, when she got into this teacher's class, the teacher was super strict, and the reason was apparently because my class was so terrible. Apparently, we almost caused her to quit teaching after her first year. In other words, kids can be shitty little shitheads sometimes.
Thanks for the reminder :lol I know kids will be kids, and I always try to circle back to that. I think part of it is the current culture at my school, things have really just gotten too lax. Just today, kids were passing out food during class. 2 years ago that would've been a huge deal at our school. So I may be venting about the lack of consequences for what kids are prone to do.
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Just tried a new lunch spot (a brewery) with some co-workers.
This place had no waitstaff. You have to walk up to the bar to get a glass of water, and all the food is ordered on your phone by scanning QR codes. A runner brings it out when it's ready. When you're done, you take your trays and everything to a designated spot with a garbage like at a McDonalds. A grilled cheese and bacon with a side of fries was $21 before tip... with no waitstaff!
I'm so fucking sick of it.
Before tip?? No chance I'd leave a tip. Also no chance I'd ever scan a QR code for anything.
I personally hate the QR code for menus. I want to hold a menu and savor my choice. Instead I have to worry how many bars I have, and swiping and trying to make it bigger... it's an experience to look at a good menu, comparing choices, etc.
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I won't scan it. I'll ask for a menu.
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Just tried a new lunch spot (a brewery) with some co-workers.
This place had no waitstaff. You have to walk up to the bar to get a glass of water, and all the food is ordered on your phone by scanning QR codes. A runner brings it out when it's ready. When you're done, you take your trays and everything to a designated spot with a garbage like at a McDonalds. A grilled cheese and bacon with a side of fries was $21 before tip... with no waitstaff!
I'm so fucking sick of it.
Before tip?? No chance I'd leave a tip. Also no chance I'd ever scan a QR code for anything.
I agree. No tip, I did much of the work.
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Completely agree, that would've been 0 tip from me
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Just tried a new lunch spot (a brewery) with some co-workers.
This place had no waitstaff. You have to walk up to the bar to get a glass of water, and all the food is ordered on your phone by scanning QR codes. A runner brings it out when it's ready. When you're done, you take your trays and everything to a designated spot with a garbage like at a McDonalds. A grilled cheese and bacon with a side of fries was $21 before tip... with no waitstaff!
I'm so fucking sick of it.
Before tip?? No chance I'd leave a tip. Also no chance I'd ever scan a QR code for anything.
I personally hate the QR code for menus. I want to hold a menu and savor my choice. Instead I have to worry how many bars I have, and swiping and trying to make it bigger... it's an experience to look at a good menu, comparing choices, etc.
I don't mind QR codes when it's convenient, but that's not the case with menus. I much prefer a physical menu too.
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One thing I like about the QR menu is when I'm at a place with a large beer list they almost always grab the beer menu after I've ordered the first round. I can just can instead of asking for another menu.
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Just tried a new lunch spot (a brewery) with some co-workers.
This place had no waitstaff. You have to walk up to the bar to get a glass of water, and all the food is ordered on your phone by scanning QR codes. A runner brings it out when it's ready. When you're done, you take your trays and everything to a designated spot with a garbage like at a McDonalds. A grilled cheese and bacon with a side of fries was $21 before tip... with no waitstaff!
I'm so fucking sick of it.
Fuck that place, their lack of service and their stupid prices. Seriously, fuck them.
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Just tried a new lunch spot (a brewery) with some co-workers.
This place had no waitstaff. You have to walk up to the bar to get a glass of water, and all the food is ordered on your phone by scanning QR codes. A runner brings it out when it's ready. When you're done, you take your trays and everything to a designated spot with a garbage like at a McDonalds. A grilled cheese and bacon with a side of fries was $21 before tip... with no waitstaff!
I'm so fucking sick of it.
Before tip?? No chance I'd leave a tip. Also no chance I'd ever scan a QR code for anything.
Yep, fuck the tips and fuck their QR codes.
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My office is located by a busy department that attracts lots of visitors from other parts of the office. Today a lot people were out and I was appreciating what a quiet afternoon it was. Then somebody who used to work for us like 5+ years ago stopped by to visit (who does that!) and spent a good 15 minutes chatting with people right outside my door.
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Was it some really fancy grilled cheese? I mean, I don't think wait staff vs. no wait staff really determines the price of the food. I've got to think for that you are eating some really nice cheese and bread, or a large serving. If its neitehr, then screw going back to that place. Also, no staff, no point in tipping.
But seriously, the cost of a basic lunch these days is ridiculous.
It's getting insane. Even here, in NYC, a grilled cheese and fries for 21 bucks is nuts. And our prices are already stupefying.
Thanks Obama.
I mentioned it the other day but I just don't buy food out at all anymore. I pretty much refuse to.
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Was it some really fancy grilled cheese? I mean, I don't think wait staff vs. no wait staff really determines the price of the food. I've got to think for that you are eating some really nice cheese and bread, or a large serving. If its neitehr, then screw going back to that place. Also, no staff, no point in tipping.
But seriously, the cost of a basic lunch these days is ridiculous.
Nothing fancy about it. It was on sour dough, which was delicious, but it wasn't anything I couldn't get at my grocery store. The bacon was semi-thick, but nothing crazy.
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I forgot to make breakfast and also wanted hot coffee so I decided on the golden arches for breakfast today. It would've been over $8. WHAT THE FUCK. The app has decent discounts so it didn't feel too bad, but it was still bad. I have gone way done on ordering out.
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I forgot to make breakfast and also wanted hot coffee so I decided on the golden arches for breakfast today. It would've been over $8. WHAT THE FUCK. The app has decent discounts so it didn't feel too bad, but it was still bad. I have gone way done on ordering out.
I think also the quality for the price is simply worlds apart these days. Last year when we went away it was the last time I had a Maccas coffee. I threw it out. It was the most disgusting dishwater crap I'd ever tasted. Instant coffee and hot water is miles better.
I think at times you wouldn't mind paying if you were guaranteed the quality was next level. Another reason I stopped was the price but the simple gambling if my food/coffee was going to be any good. Sick of it because as time goes on more often than not it's on the poor end of the spectrum.
At least if I'm making food or coffee at home, I know I'm paying bottom dollar and I know what I'm getting.
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Yeah, it's amazing how prices go up, wages go up, and the quality stays the same or seems to be on a decline. I love fast food but it's not the same convenience anymore.
I went to Wendy's for a quick burger, saw something called a Nacho Cheese burger and thought that sounded interesting. It was $8. It was fine, pretty tasty but not worth that much. I got a burger smasher for Christmas and I make better burgers than any fast food joint now. Just gonna keep my cravings for that to cook at home.
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Yeah, it's amazing how prices go up, wages go up, and the quality stays the same or seems to be on a decline. I love fast food but it's not the same convenience anymore.
I went to Wendy's for a quick burger, saw something called a Nacho Cheese burger and thought that sounded interesting. It was $8. It was fine, pretty tasty but not worth that much. I got a burger smasher for Christmas and I make better burgers than any fast food joint now. Just gonna keep my cravings for that to cook at home.
Plus you know exactly what's going into your food and 9/10 it's probably a better ingredient profile, less fat and oil and less calories overall. I love the control over how I prepare my food.
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I forgot to make breakfast and also wanted hot coffee so I decided on the golden arches for breakfast today. It would've been over $8. WHAT THE FUCK. The app has decent discounts so it didn't feel too bad, but it was still bad. I have gone way done on ordering out.
I think also the quality for the price is simply worlds apart these days. Last year when we went away it was the last time I had a Maccas coffee. I threw it out. It was the most disgusting dishwater crap I'd ever tasted. Instant coffee and hot water is miles better.
I think at times you wouldn't mind paying if you were guaranteed the quality was next level. Another reason I stopped was the price but the simple gambling if my food/coffee was going to be any good. Sick of it because as time goes on more often than not it's on the poor end of the spectrum.
At least if I'm making food or coffee at home, I know I'm paying bottom dollar and I know what I'm getting.
So..what you actually find exasperating is the fact that you're turning into an old man. :lol
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Tim is an expert.
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Tim is an expert.
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Yup, I picked it right out! :lol
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I forgot to make breakfast and also wanted hot coffee so I decided on the golden arches for breakfast today. It would've been over $8. WHAT THE FUCK. The app has decent discounts so it didn't feel too bad, but it was still bad. I have gone way done on ordering out.
I think also the quality for the price is simply worlds apart these days. Last year when we went away it was the last time I had a Maccas coffee. I threw it out. It was the most disgusting dishwater crap I'd ever tasted. Instant coffee and hot water is miles better.
I think at times you wouldn't mind paying if you were guaranteed the quality was next level. Another reason I stopped was the price but the simple gambling if my food/coffee was going to be any good. Sick of it because as time goes on more often than not it's on the poor end of the spectrum.
At least if I'm making food or coffee at home, I know I'm paying bottom dollar and I know what I'm getting.
So..what you actually find exasperating is the fact that you're turning into an old man. :lol
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I got a burger smasher for Christmas and I make better burgers than any fast food joint now. Just gonna keep my cravings for that to cook at home.
When I was a kid, a homemade burger was a poor substitute for a fast-food burger. Now, the smashburgers I make at home are tons better than just about any fast-food burger. I still get a craving for the particular taste of a Quarter Pounder or a Wendy's double, but the only fast-food burgers that can compete with what I make at home are Five Guys, Shake Shack and Fatburger (and there aren't any Fatburger locations convenient to me, so...).
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I got a burger smasher for Christmas and I make better burgers than any fast food joint now. Just gonna keep my cravings for that to cook at home.
When I was a kid, a homemade burger was a poor substitute for a fast-food burger. Now, the smashburgers I make at home are tons better than just about any fast-food burger. I still get a craving for the particular taste of a Quarter Pounder or a Wendy's double, but the only fast-food burgers that can compete with what I make at home are Five Guys, Shake Shack and Fatburger (and there aren't any Fatburger locations convenient to me, so...).
I had Shake Shake recently. For $30 CAD, I felt I needed to report a crime. The burger was passable, the shake ok, and the fries were straight up McCain crinkle cut. I'll never eat there again.
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I had Shake Shake recently. For $30 CAD, I felt I needed to report a crime. The burger was passable, the shake ok, and the fries were straight up McCain crinkle cut. I'll never eat there again.
Their fries suck, but a burger and a vanilla malt is a top notch combo for me.
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I got a burger smasher for Christmas and I make better burgers than any fast food joint now. Just gonna keep my cravings for that to cook at home.
When I was a kid, a homemade burger was a poor substitute for a fast-food burger. Now, the smashburgers I make at home are tons better than just about any fast-food burger. I still get a craving for the particular taste of a Quarter Pounder or a Wendy's double, but the only fast-food burgers that can compete with what I make at home are Five Guys, Shake Shack and Fatburger (and there aren't any Fatburger locations convenient to me, so...).
Agreed; my only struggle is keeping up with all the condiments/ingredients at home. I'm the only one that likes tomato on my burger, for example.
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I love home cooked burgers, so much more control in what goes in, that said I haven't stopped eating burgers out completely and the last time I had one was in Ford's Garage and it really surprised me how good they were. The fries was amazing too. All in all a very enjoyable experience.
On the flip side, I mostly eat home make pizza now, last weekend I had some sbarro's and good god was it awful. 3 plain cheese slices cost $16. Awful price for an awful meal.
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I really struggle to make a good home burger. I often over or undercook it. It's made me almost never eat burgers at home. It's been well over a year since my gf and I had a "burger off" where we both made our own unique burgers and then taste tested. Mine was horrible :lol I don't think I've attempted to make a burger since.
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I really struggle to make a good home burger. I often over or undercook it. It's made me almost never eat burgers at home. It's been well over a year since my gf and I had a "burger off" where we both made our own unique burgers and then taste tested. Mine was horrible :lol I don't think I've attempted to make a burger since.
Watch this video: https://youtu.be/3yX_bpbCmfo?si=aKaaZFDn-WHPpV67
It's a bit longer than it needs to be, but Guga is really engaging (he's got a bunch of great videos on YT). The actual cooking of the burger happens just past the 4 1/2 minute mark. If you don't have one, get yourself a cast-iron griddle (about $40). You can use it on an outdoor grill (as shown in the video), but I do it on the stove. Since you're cooking on the griddle, it doesn't matter what the underlying heat source is. Once you smash the patties (I use a metal spatula and a grill press), you only need to let them cook about 20-30 seconds before flipping (I use 1/3# of meat split into two patties). It's quick and easy and virtually foolproof, and you obviously can put whatever you want on the burgers. The other keys are proper seasoning* and these buns: https://stpierrebakery.com/products/brioche/4-burger-buns/ I bought some very similar, generic brioche buns at Target last weekend, and they worked just as well if you can't find St. Pierre. Toast the buns before cooking the burger. It's literally the best burger I've ever had.
* - I usually use Lawry's season salt. It you want to make your own seasoning, I recommend one part each of paprika, onion powder and garlic powder and two parts each of salt and black pepper.
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I've got the goods to make it that way, but maybe not the gut to try :biggrin: seriously, next time I want a burger I'll have to remember to follow that.
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I used to use lipton onion soup mix and a little beef broth for my burgers.
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That's gross.
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No it wasn't. It tasted amazing but as I got older it was too much sodium.
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Lipton onion soup mix? Then it's meatloaf.
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Crankshaft, it tasted good.
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But it's meatloaf.
You can't add soup mix to a burger and call it a burger anymore.
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Sure you can. You have no authority. I just Google and saw 20 recipes. Its not hard to find out you're wrong.
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My mom used to make meatloaf all the time when I was growing up, but I don’t think I’ve ever had it in my adult life. The idea of a huge loaf of hamburger meat kind of blows my mind now just thinking about it.
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I still make it once in a while. Searing it after it's cooked on a flat top is amazing.
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Sure you can. You have no authority. I just Google and saw 20 recipes. Its not hard to find out you're wrong.
I have authority. A hamburger is a meat patty....MEAT patty. Once you add filler it becomes meatloaf. That's the law. Lipton onion soup is filler.
Next time you have me up for burgers, I better not find onion bits in my burger.
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When I visited family in Boston they made burgers with onion soup mix among other things, they only added a hint of it but it gave the burger texture.
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When I visited family in Boston they made burgers with onion soup mix among other things, they only added a hint of it but it gave the burger texture.
Yeah, that's called meatloaf.
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I'm not sure it's meatloaf, but it's definitely a subpar burger. No reason to make your burger patty taste like anything but beef. It's delicious enough on its own.
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Stop arguing and eat your meatloaf sandwiches.
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I'm not sure it's meatloaf, but it's definitely a subpar burger. No reason to make your burger patty taste like anything but beef. It's delicious enough on its own.
I bet you never tried it but still have this opinion.
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I'm not sure it's meatloaf, but it's definitely a subpar burger. No reason to make your burger patty taste like anything but beef. It's delicious enough on its own.
I bet you never tried it but still have this opinion.
It's not an opinion...
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Sure. This is just one screenshot. Be call me wrong.
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Onion flavor doesn't work with hamburgers.
Smashburgers do not agree. Google that as well, old man.
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I'm not sure it's meatloaf, but it's definitely a subpar burger. No reason to make your burger patty taste like anything but beef. It's delicious enough on its own.
I bet you never tried it but still have this opinion.
I have tried many burgers that have had flavorings mixed in. Can't say for sure it's ever been that particular flavoring since they've always been made by other people. But I've always thought they were mediocre at best.
I feel like there's a significant difference between flavorings on a burger versus flavorings in a burger.
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Inadvertent double post
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If you haven't tried it, you can't say it's mediocre. That's my point. Sane for Tim. Your takes are hilarious.
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If you haven't tried it, you can't say it's mediocre. That's my point. Sane for Tim. Your takes are hilarious.
Again, I may have tried it and i have tried other burgers with stuff mixed in. I stand by my statement. They don't need it and are better without it. You do you though. Enjoy your onion burger.
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Sure. This is just one screenshot. Be call me wrong.
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Chris Karam likes this post :tup
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He only likes posts from the 60's and 70's lol
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He is these days. I can't get him to listen to any nee music. Here's his nee podcast.
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I love meatloaf.
I love burgers cooked plain with salt and pepper.
I love burgers cooked with some seasoning on them.
I love burgers cooked with some finely chopped onion in them.
You guys debate whether it's "meatloaf" or not, I'm going to fill my face. :) :) :) :) :)
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I love meatloaf.
I love burgers cooked plain with salt and pepper.
I love burgers cooked with some seasoning on them.
I love burgers cooked with some finely chopped onion in them.
You guys debate whether it's "meatloaf" or not, I'm going to fill my face. :) :) :) :) :)
This guy gets it.
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LOL this debate.... meatloaf has a lot more than just seasoning, usually it has some sort of bread or breadcrumbs mixed into the meat (beyond just seasoning) that makes it a "loaf" like a loaf of bread because there's bread in it... Meat with just seasoning is still a meat patty and hence a burger.
Someone can prove me wrong.
I love meatloaf and meatloaf sandwiches, but it's not the same as adding onion seasoning to a burger.
Those lipton onion packs are good though, I usually use it with roasted potatoes.
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Meatloaf is just meatballs in a different shape.
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Meatloaf is just meatballs in a different shape.
As an Italian, this is offensive :lol but yeah, not too far off. Different seasonings and shape. But if you go to a supermarket, they usually have a meatloaf/meatlball mix of ground beef and pork together to buy.
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My brother used to tell my mom at a teenager, that her meatballs tasted like her meatloaf and called them, loafballs. :lol
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Meatloaf has breading in it, either bread crumb or panko, as well as milk/cream, eggs, and a variety of other things. Whereas burgers typically do not. It's a totally different mouth feel.
A proper meatloaf is an event.
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I had Shake Shake recently. For $30 CAD, I felt I needed to report a crime. The burger was passable, the shake ok, and the fries were straight up McCain crinkle cut. I'll never eat there again.
Their fries suck, but a burger and a vanilla malt is a top notch combo for me.
Vanilla or Strawberry and yeah, that combo is great. I don't remember the last time I had them though.
Lately my go to fastfood burger place is Smashburger. Their smoked bacon brisket burger is great
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I had Shake Shake recently. For $30 CAD, I felt I needed to report a crime. The burger was passable, the shake ok, and the fries were straight up McCain crinkle cut. I'll never eat there again.
Their fries suck, but a burger and a vanilla malt is a top notch combo for me.
Vanilla or Strawberry and yeah, that combo is great. I don't remember the last time I had them though.
Lately my go to fastfood burger place is Smashburger. Their smoked bacon brisket burger is great
They're good, but the only location I know of is across the street from Staples Center (where the LA Kings play), and I don't get up there often.
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LOL this debate.... meatloaf has a lot more than just seasoning, usually it has some sort of bread or breadcrumbs mixed into the meat (beyond just seasoning) that makes it a "loaf" like a loaf of bread because there's bread in it... Meat with just seasoning is still a meat patty and hence a burger.
Someone can prove me wrong.
I love meatloaf and meatloaf sandwiches, but it's not the same as adding onion seasoning to a burger.
Those lipton onion packs are good though, I usually use it with roasted potatoes.
Well, you're right, I think.
I defer to the resident knife chucker, but I think burgers, meatballs and meatloaf are, technically, different.
Burger: meat and seasonings
Meatballs: a meat blend (beef and pork, maybe veal if you're adventurous), breadcrumbs, and seasonings
Meatloaf: beef, breadcrumbs, egg, seasoning; some people put bacon strips on the top for the pork flavorings.
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I put egg in my meatballs and also may put them in a burger meat or while not common for me, just put a egg on top of the burger.
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I put egg in my meatballs and also may put them in a burger meat or while not common for me, just put a egg on top of the burger.
I think you have rank here, Marc. I'm a Polack who learned what he learned about cooking from his Hungarian grandmother! :) :) :)
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Burger: meat and seasonings
Meatballs: a meat blend (beef and pork, maybe veal if you're adventurous), breadcrumbs, and seasonings
Meatloaf: beef, breadcrumbs, egg, seasoning; some people put bacon strips on the top for the pork flavorings.
I'll take a meatloaf. Hold the beef, breadcrumbs, and bacon strips on top.
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Burger: meat and seasonings
Meatballs: a meat blend (beef and pork, maybe veal if you're adventurous), breadcrumbs, and seasonings
Meatloaf: beef, breadcrumbs, egg, seasoning; some people put bacon strips on the top for the pork flavorings.
I'll take a meatloaf. Hold the beef, breadcrumbs, and bacon strips on top.
So... a fried egg?
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Burger: meat and seasonings
Meatballs: a meat blend (beef and pork, maybe veal if you're adventurous), breadcrumbs, and seasonings
Meatloaf: beef, breadcrumbs, egg, seasoning; some people put bacon strips on the top for the pork flavorings.
I'll take a meatloaf. Hold the beef, breadcrumbs, and bacon strips on top.
So... a fried egg?
Scrambled please!
I'll be waiting here.
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I put egg in my meatballs and also may put them in a burger meat or while not common for me, just put a egg on top of the burger.
I think you have rank here, Marc. I'm a Polack who learned what he learned about cooking from his Hungarian grandmother! :) :) :)
:lol My mom's a polack so I've got it in me too.
I have The Sopranos cookbook and use their recipe for my sunday sauce and meatballs (pictured this week in the food thread). I'm not an expert (and we have at least one expert here), but have put a great deal of effort into being a better cook since the pandemic. I've got like 6 or so cookbooks now and my gf is big on social media chefs. I even watch Gordon Ramsay these days and I never cared for any cooking show before. New season of Next Level Chef just started.
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My mom was Lebanese and my dad Irish. Better not mess with me. :lol
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Seasoned hamburgers are NOT meatloaf.
My wife likes to mix steak seasonings into the meat before throwing a patty on the grill. Is that a meatloaf??? The idea of seasoning the meat and having that be the line where it becomes meatloaf is ludicrous.
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Seasoning is one thing, like if you put salt on it or something, but soup mix?? Yeah, you're making meatloaf patties.
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I love meatloaf.
I love burgers cooked plain with salt and pepper.
I love burgers cooked with some seasoning on them.
I love burgers cooked with some finely chopped onion in them.
You guys debate whether it's "meatloaf" or not, I'm going to fill my face. :) :) :) :) :)
This guy gets it.
Indeed.
Also, the burgers that were being referenced are NOT fucking meatloaf.
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^ And they are not fucking meatloaf because meatloaf, despite being willing to do anything for love, won't do that.
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But would you eat one by the dashboard light? That would be paradise.
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But would you eat one by the dashboard light? That would be paradise.
I don't know. Let me sleep on it.
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I had a random article show up today that Bobby Flay (celebrity chef for those who live under a rock) says burgers only need salt and pepper. Of all the things for Google to track me and latch onto... Thanks DTF :lol
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He's not wrong.
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If you compliment with Chef condiments that he can procure then I get it.
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Just told my wife about this conversation. She reminded me that she often will just chop up a sweet onion and mix it in with the hamburger before making patties.
No soup mix. Just chopped sweet onions.
Still meatloaf? :angel:
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Nope. Tim is Brain fucked.
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I see no reason why hamburgers can’t be seasoned any way you please. This is America (in case you don’t live in America. See your local laws).
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Just told my wife about this conversation. She reminded me that she often will just chop up a sweet onion and mix it in with the hamburger before making patties.
No soup mix. Just chopped sweet onions.
Still meatloaf? :angel:
Yes.
Onions on a burger-still a burger
Onions in a burger-loaf!
And remind me to not stop over for "burgers" next time I'm in Washington :lol
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I am a tad exasperated at all these posts singing the praises of meatloaf.
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I am a tad exasperated at all these posts singing the praises of meatloaf.
You haven’t had my wife’s meatloaf.
And I don’t mean Tim’s deranged definition either. She makes a great ACTUAL meatloaf. Made with eggs, onions, Dijon mustard, and her own secret “instead of breadcrumbs” filler mixture that she wants me to keep a secret. [edit - there are a few other seasonings as well…but she’s pretty close to the chest with her seasoning secrets] But it’s amazing. Mrs. Dude is an amazing cook.
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It's been so long since I've had meatloaf I can't remember if I liked it or not. I feel like it was kind of a disappointing meal, but I remember liking the crusty edges. I just remembered we used to eat the leftovers on white bread with mayo, which seems gross when I think about it even though I like mayo now (hated it as a kid). I also haven't had white bread as an adult probably come to think of it.
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I am a tad exasperated at all these posts singing the praises of meatloaf.
You haven’t had my wife’s meatloaf.
And I don’t mean Tim’s deranged definition either. She makes a great ACTUAL meatloaf. Made with eggs, onions, Dijon mustard, and her own secret “instead of breadcrumbs” filler mixture that she wants me to keep a secret. [edit - there are a few other seasonings as well…but she’s pretty close to the chest with her seasoning secrets] But it’s amazing. Mrs. Dude is an amazing cook.
I am sorry, I could not read your post through the drizzling juicy goodness of my properly seasoned hamburger. :)
We use that onion soup mix periodically for other meals, but have never used it with hamburgers, or with meatloaf, because why would anyone ever willingly make meatloaf?
Now I want hamburgers. We went to Red Robin the other night, which I had not been to in ages. I ordered a Bleu Ribbon burger, because obviously. And on the menu it is "It's back" so apparently it was off the menu for a while?
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I am a tad exasperated at all these posts singing the praises of meatloaf.
Why? if you don't like the music is fine, but the guy had an hell of a voice and together with Jim Steinman he penned some timeless classics of hard rock.
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Just like Tim's music taste his food stays in one lane, only.
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I am a tad exasperated at all these posts singing the praises of meatloaf.
You haven’t had my wife’s meatloaf.
And I don’t mean Tim’s deranged definition either. She makes a great ACTUAL meatloaf. Made with eggs, onions, Dijon mustard, and her own secret “instead of breadcrumbs” filler mixture that she wants me to keep a secret. [edit - there are a few other seasonings as well…but she’s pretty close to the chest with her seasoning secrets] But it’s amazing. Mrs. Dude is an amazing cook.
Yeah, meatloaf can be amazing. I make a damn good one when we have the time for me to make it. Probably not as good as your wife's.
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I am a tad exasperated at all these posts singing the praises of meatloaf.
Why? if you don't like the music is fine, but the guy had an hell of a voice and together with Jim Steinman he penned some timeless classics of hard rock.
Jim Steinman was the best song writer that was alive during my lifetime, IMO. I've got a framed Bad for Good vinyl displayed in my office, right next to a signed copy of Bat Out of Hell.
The dude was a genius. His CT home is for sale, and it looks exactly as you'd expect his house to.
https://www.realtor.com/news/celebrity-real-estate/music-producer-home-in-ridgefield-ct-back-on-the-market-for-4-5m/
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Also, Meat would have hated your post :lol
https://www.businessinsider.com/meat-loaf-called-people-spell-name-as-one-word-idiots-2022-1
The singer, who died on Thursday aged 74, once said: "When I see my name spelt with one word, I want to slap and choke people."
"If you do that, you got to be a moron. It's on every poster, every album and every ticket as two words. If you spell it as one, you're an idiot. Bottom line," he said.
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His name was Robert Paulson!
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I am a tad exasperated at all these posts singing the praises of meatloaf.
Why? if you don't like the music is fine, but the guy had an hell of a voice and together with Jim Steinman he penned some timeless classics of hard rock.
Jim Steinman is the best song writer that was alive during my lifetime, IMO. I've got a framed Bad for Good vinyl displayed in my office, right next to a signed copy of Bat Out of Hell.
The dude was a genius. His CT home is for sale, and it looks exactly as you'd expect his house to.
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Also, Meat would have hated your post :lol
https://www.businessinsider.com/meat-loaf-called-people-spell-name-as-one-word-idiots-2022-1
The singer, who died on Thursday aged 74, once said: "When I see my name spelt with one word, I want to slap and choke people."
"If you do that, you got to be a moron. It's on every poster, every album and every ticket as two words. If you spell it as one, you're an idiot. Bottom line," he said.
I know how to spell Meat Loaf's name, but I wouldn't let something as trivial as grammar come in the way of a silly joke :lol
And holy shit Jim Steinman's house is glorious. Such a pity we lost them both in a short span of time.....
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That's an awesome house Chino. I love the museum lighting.
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Price gouging.
So I had April 8th, 2024 mark on the calendar for the last 7 years because of the upcoming solar eclipse. In December, I started looking into places to stay and planning a trip so I can be at the path of totality. Hotels and AirBnB were around the $100 - $200/night in the area I was looking at, but I couldn't book it that early because I needed to make sure my schedule would work for it. I checked 2 weeks ago, and same prices. I'm finally able to move forward so I checked yesterday and I guess all the hotels realized what's happening because prices went up to over $1200 per night for the same hotels, and they added a minimum of a 3 night stay. AirBnBs are worse with some charging over $2000 a night (not counting all the fees they add after) :lol
I booked a place about an hour drive from the center path of the eclipse for a little under $200 a night, and will just drive to a park with open space the day of the eclipse. Now let's just hope the weather cooperates.
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I am a tad exasperated at all these posts singing the praises of meatloaf.
Why? if you don't like the music is fine, but the guy had an hell of a voice and together with Jim Steinman he penned some timeless classics of hard rock.
HAHA, well done (pun intended).
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Price gouging.
So I had April 8th, 2024 mark on the calendar for the last 7 years because of the upcoming solar eclipse. In December, I started looking into places to stay and planning a trip so I can be at the path of totality. Hotels and AirBnB were around the $100 - $200/night in the area I was looking at, but I couldn't book it that early because I needed to make sure my schedule would work for it. I checked 2 weeks ago, and same prices. I'm finally able to move forward so I checked yesterday and I guess all the hotels realized what's happening because prices went up to over $1200 per night for the same hotels, and they added a minimum of a 3 night stay. AirBnBs are worse with some charging over $2000 a night (not counting all the fees they add after) :lol
I booked a place about an hour drive from the center path of the eclipse for a little under $200 a night, and will just drive to a park with open space the day of the eclipse. Now let's just hope the weather cooperates.
I'm quite fortunate that where I live is pretty much in direct path of the central line of the eclipse. I recall reading that this area is going to see 98% or 99% totality.
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That's an awesome house Chino. I love the museum lighting.
I'd live there in a heartbeat. Or heart beat, as the case may be. ;)
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Price gouging.
So I had April 8th, 2024 mark on the calendar for the last 7 years because of the upcoming solar eclipse. In December, I started looking into places to stay and planning a trip so I can be at the path of totality. Hotels and AirBnB were around the $100 - $200/night in the area I was looking at, but I couldn't book it that early because I needed to make sure my schedule would work for it. I checked 2 weeks ago, and same prices. I'm finally able to move forward so I checked yesterday and I guess all the hotels realized what's happening because prices went up to over $1200 per night for the same hotels, and they added a minimum of a 3 night stay. AirBnBs are worse with some charging over $2000 a night (not counting all the fees they add after) :lol
I booked a place about an hour drive from the center path of the eclipse for a little under $200 a night, and will just drive to a park with open space the day of the eclipse. Now let's just hope the weather cooperates.
Where are you talking about? Ballpark...
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I'm quite fortunate that where I live is pretty much in direct path of the central line of the eclipse. I recall reading that this area is going to see 98% or 99% totality.
Don't know exactly where you are, but the Toronto area is getting pretty much as close to 100% as you can get without being on the path.
https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/map/2024-april-8
Where are you talking about? Ballpark...
At first, I was looking into the Buffalo-Erie area. But I settled for an area north of Lake George in New York. If the weather sucks, I have the flexibility to go north, west or east as a last minute thing.
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I'm quite fortunate that where I live is pretty much in direct path of the central line of the eclipse. I recall reading that this area is going to see 98% or 99% totality.
Don't know exactly where you are, but the Toronto area is getting pretty much as close to 100% as you can get without being on the path.
https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/map/2024-april-8
Where are you talking about? Ballpark...
At first, I was looking into the Buffalo-Erie area. But I settled for an area north of Lake George in New York. If the weather sucks, I have the flexibility to go north, west or east as a last minute thing.
That's where I live - Fort Erie ... the border town to Buffalo.
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Yeah, you are on the path of totality and almost right at the center :metal
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Don't sleep on Rochester, NY. It's about an hour east of Buffalo, and I just looked; Hilton has rooms in it's various properties on the 8th ranging from $239 to $645. $645 is INSANE for Rochester, so that goes to what you were saying, but anywhere from $125 to $225 is reasonable for that area. There's Rochester, the city, and there's West Henrietta (near the airport, and where both RIT and my company are) which is a really nice suburb and only about 10 minutes from the downtown area.
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Price gouging.
So I had April 8th, 2024 mark on the calendar for the last 7 years because of the upcoming solar eclipse. In December, I started looking into places to stay and planning a trip so I can be at the path of totality. Hotels and AirBnB were around the $100 - $200/night in the area I was looking at, but I couldn't book it that early because I needed to make sure my schedule would work for it. I checked 2 weeks ago, and same prices. I'm finally able to move forward so I checked yesterday and I guess all the hotels realized what's happening because prices went up to over $1200 per night for the same hotels, and they added a minimum of a 3 night stay. AirBnBs are worse with some charging over $2000 a night (not counting all the fees they add after) :lol
I booked a place about an hour drive from the center path of the eclipse for a little under $200 a night, and will just drive to a park with open space the day of the eclipse. Now let's just hope the weather cooperates.
And then it'll be cloudy that day.
But this experience is very much the issue for me trying to go to PSU football games. A night in State College PA normally is around 100-200 bucks. You want to stay for a game? Well since schedules are released years out, those weekends are already set for 2-3 minimum nights and go for 600-900 a night. GTFO. We did manage to find an AIRBNB for one night this year, at $1000 and split it four ways to make it doable.
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Capitalism, bitches! :metal
Actually, it's just economic theory of supply and demand.
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Capitalism, bitches! :metal
Actually, it's just economic theory of supply and demand.
Yeah, I get it. It just sucks that it becomes unaffordable
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And then it'll be cloudy that day.
That's the gamble with these types of stuff. It's all weather dependent. The cool thing about an solar eclipse though is that if its cloudy, you still get to experience the darkness part of it, even if you don't necessarily see it. I'm hopeful for good weather, but it's one of those things that I won't know until a few days before.
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And then it'll be cloudy that day.
That's the gamble with these types of stuff. It's all weather dependent. The cool thing about an solar eclipse though is that if its cloudy, you still get to experience the darkness part of it, even if you don't necessarily see it. I'm hopeful for good weather, but it's one of those things that I won't know until a few days before.
Yeah, that just makes that cost even more ridiculous because there's a risk.
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Last night on 60 Minutes, Fed chairman Powell said the projected US debt in 30 years will be 144 trillion dollars. He said that equates to 1 million per household. I can't wrap my head around that. Seems to me this path were on will seriously damage this countries foundation.
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Last night on 60 Minutes, Fed chairman Powell said the projected US debt in 30 years will be 144 trillion dollars. He said that equates to 1 million per household. I can't wrap my head around that. Seems to me this path were on will seriously damage this countries foundation.
Came up in the politics side of the forum recently about the national debt. I must admit to not truly understanding how it works. It seems unfathomable to think of that much debt and yet, we just keep piling on.
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Anyone who says “We can fix this.”
Anyone who has ever said is obviously ignorant of human nature.
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Anyone who says “We can fix this.”
Anyone who has ever said is obviously ignorant of human nature.
it's not exactly the same thing, but it's a running joke with my wife and I that as soon as someone says "I got this" the only thing you know for absolute certainty is that in fact they do NOT have this.
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Anyone who says “We can fix this.”
Anyone who has ever said is obviously ignorant of human nature.
Indeed, I always thought Bob the Builder was a stupid fuck.
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Price gouging.
So I had April 8th, 2024 mark on the calendar for the last 7 years because of the upcoming solar eclipse. In December, I started looking into places to stay and planning a trip so I can be at the path of totality. Hotels and AirBnB were around the $100 - $200/night in the area I was looking at, but I couldn't book it that early because I needed to make sure my schedule would work for it. I checked 2 weeks ago, and same prices. I'm finally able to move forward so I checked yesterday and I guess all the hotels realized what's happening because prices went up to over $1200 per night for the same hotels, and they added a minimum of a 3 night stay. AirBnBs are worse with some charging over $2000 a night (not counting all the fees they add after) :lol
I booked a place about an hour drive from the center path of the eclipse for a little under $200 a night, and will just drive to a park with open space the day of the eclipse. Now let's just hope the weather cooperates.
Buy good glasses and lens filters now. The gouging has probably already begun, but at least there will still be a great deal of supply.
I drove to Kentucky to see the last one. I'm lucky that this one is passing over Dallas. I'll drive an hour in either direction for a better view, depending on the weather. A total eclipse is a damned impressive thing to see. Part of the reason for all of the effort back in 2017(?) was insurance in case this one got rained out or something.
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We had a partial solar eclipse some time last year here in FL, I made the pinhole box thing and showed my daughter (4) and she liked it for about a second. I was so fascinated with it.
Also, the sunlight at the peak of the eclipse is surreal. It's like a blend of daytime and nighttime, kind of hazy in a way and trippy. I was glad it was the kids' naptime so I could take it all in.
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The last partial one we had I was totally unaware of it until we went out late in the morning and it looked like afternoon. Took me a little bit to realize what was going on.
One thing I won't do is look at an eclipse through any sort of glasses. Not going to risk my eye sight to see the sun with something in front of it.
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We had a partial solar eclipse some time last year here in FL, I made the pinhole box thing and showed my daughter (4) and she liked it for about a second. I was so fascinated with it.
Also, the sunlight at the peak of the eclipse is surreal. It's like a blend of daytime and nighttime, kind of hazy in a way and trippy. I was glad it was the kids' naptime so I could take it all in.
A couple years ago, my daughter and I did the cereal box viewer thing. It was a lot of fun and a great bonding experience. It worked, too!
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Buy good glasses and lens filters now. The gouging has probably already begun, but at least there will still be a great deal of supply.
I drove to Kentucky to see the last one. I'm lucky that this one is passing over Dallas. I'll drive an hour in either direction for a better view, depending on the weather. A total eclipse is a damned impressive thing to see. Part of the reason for all of the effort back in 2017(?) was insurance in case this one got rained out or something.
Yeah, got my glasses and camera filter. Tested them out on Sunday so I'm all good on that end.
My first eclipse was when I was on my 9th birthday. Where I was it was only partial, but something like 90%.
The last partial one we had I was totally unaware of it until we went out late in the morning and it looked like afternoon. Took me a little bit to realize what was going on.
One thing I won't do is look at an eclipse through any sort of glasses. Not going to risk my eye sight to see the sun with something in front of it.
That's why you need special glasses.
I'm not ashamed to admit that when I was a teenager, I "experimented" to see how many sunglasses I needed to stack in order to block out enough sunlight to stare directly into the sun. I won't tell you how ridiculous I looked with the mount of sunglasses I had on at once, but I'm sure you can picture it :lol
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Oh, I know there are special glasses for it. I just don’t want to take any chances!
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Why are some gas pumps so damn slow? I'm going to be standing here all morning
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The power went out last night, and we have a "flash" water heater, so I couldn't shower before work this morning. I was sort of able to wash my hair under the cold water, but I'm now sitting in my office feeling like a total scunge.
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Why are some gas pumps so damn slow? I'm going to be standing here all morning
I haven't seen this until recently at the station nearest to me. I stopped pumping when I knew I had enough to make it to a better station.
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Why are some gas pumps so damn slow? I'm going to be standing here all morning
Sucks in the northeast when it's cold AF.
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Why are some gas pumps so damn slow? I'm going to be standing here all morning
Sucks in the northeast when it's cold AF.
So cold causes it? Sounds like that would make sense. It's been much chillier than it has been recently.
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Why are some gas pumps so damn slow? I'm going to be standing here all morning
Sucks in the northeast when it's cold AF.
So cold causes it? Sounds like that would make sense. It's been much chillier than it has been recently.
No, I think he's saying it sucks to stand there pumping because it's so cold. That's why I get back in the car.
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What Tim said. Those slow pumps while you stans out in the cold. The wind chill adds to it.
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What Tim said.
As usual..
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When it comes to dick turtling.
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Man, I think I would instantly die if I experienced an outside temp lower than 33.
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Man, I think I would instantly die if I experienced an outside temp lower than 33.
we had a few -20+ days already in Colorado this year. Which aren't the most common thing, but have become more common in the last few years
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Man, I think I would instantly die if I experienced an outside temp lower than 33.
You'd be fine, I moved from FL to NC, I survived and even love the cold weather.
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Man, I think I would instantly die if I experienced an outside temp lower than 33.
It was 11 degrees when I woke up yesterday.
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Man, I think I would instantly die if I experienced an outside temp lower than 33.
I think you’ll be okay. I say this as someone who spent three years in LA and then the next year walked through waist deep snow in -20 degrees. Did think I was gonna die though.
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Man, I think I would instantly die if I experienced an outside temp lower than 33.
I think you’ll be okay. I say this as someone who spent three years in LA and then the next year walked through waist deep snow in -20 degrees. Did think I was gonna die though.
I remember your story of going out food shopping and wondering if you would make it back. Snow was up to your chest.
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Why are some gas pumps so damn slow? I'm going to be standing here all morning
Sucks in the northeast when it's cold AF.
So cold causes it? Sounds like that would make sense. It's been much chillier than it has been recently.
No, I think he's saying it sucks to stand there pumping because it's so cold. That's why I get back in the car.
We don't have the auto-lock/hold clip for gas pumps here in NYC. So if you are pumping gas, you have to hold the nozzle.
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Why are some gas pumps so damn slow? I'm going to be standing here all morning
Sucks in the northeast when it's cold AF.
So cold causes it? Sounds like that would make sense. It's been much chillier than it has been recently.
No, I think he's saying it sucks to stand there pumping because it's so cold. That's why I get back in the car.
We don't have the auto-lock/hold clip for gas pumps here in NYC. So if you are pumping gas, you have to hold the nozzle.
I jam my gas cap under the handle and climb back in at places that don't have those.
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At least I know if I venture into those temps, you all believe me in me.
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At least I know if I venture into those temps, you all believe me in me.
We will definitely believe you in you.
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I'm leaving that there in there.
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My computer monitor shit itself. I mean ots only 20 years old. :lol
Basically computer turns on and it just goes black after about 5 seconds. You then it off then on, same thing, 5 seconds then black. The computer still operates and you can hear music but no matter what, the monitor does this. The green light on the monitor stays on too when it's black. Weird.
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So you'll be posting in the Happy Thread tomorrow about your new monitor?
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So you'll be posting in the Happy Thread tomorrow about your new monitor?
I've been turning it off and on the past 20 minutes to no avail. I then decided to hold the power button in for a longer period of time. It is now on and has stayed on........maybe I'm in luck. :lol
Browsing the cheapest I could find was $138 at a chain just down the road, that's not bad if need be. Hopefully this stays on though to give me a day reprieve. I'm so fucking cheap. :lol
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Fuck, that only lasted 20 minutes. Off again. :lol
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How about amazon?
(https://www.amazon.com/s?k=computer%2Bmonitors&hvadid=570539869615&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9011846&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=11107846954186542646&hvtargid=kwd-946815063078&hydadcr=25653_13484214&tag=googhydr-20&ref=pd_sl_24755cxisu_e)
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How about amazon?
(https://www.amazon.com/s?k=computer%2Bmonitors&hvadid=570539869615&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9011846&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=11107846954186542646&hvtargid=kwd-946815063078&hydadcr=25653_13484214&tag=googhydr-20&ref=pd_sl_24755cxisu_e)
Yeah cheers James. There's actually a few online stores where I could get one for 80-90 bucks. Instore it's looking like $127 is the cheapest. Not sure it's worth waiting the days on it getting delivered when I can just go out this afternoon and buy one for a bit more. I'll go down the road later and see, you never know, might be a deal in store. Bah! I hate spending money!
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Good luck! Just take a break from DTF for a day or two, it won't hurt :lol
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Sounds like me with our 14-year old living room TV. It had been having occasional issues for a while with the primary HDMI input, but it always worked itself out pretty quickly. Everyone kept telling me to replace it, but I didn't want to replace something that worked for the most part. Finally, a couple weeks ago, it died. I actually looked up to see how much I had paid for the old TV: $800+ in 2008. The new TV was less than half that amount and weighs about 1/5th of the old one. It's like night and day.
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Good luck! Just take a break from DTF for a day or two, it won't hurt :lol
My phone is always near by. ;D
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Sounds like me with our 14-year old living room TV. It had been having occasional issues for a while with the primary HDMI input, but it always worked itself out pretty quickly. Everyone kept telling me to replace it, but I didn't want to replace something that worked for the most part. Finally, a couple weeks ago, it died. I actually looked up to see how much I had paid for the old TV: $800+ in 2008. The new TV was less than half that amount and weighs about 1/5th of the old one. It's like night and day.
Haha, that will be me. My current monitor is as thick as one of those old school TV's! :lol
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Sounds like me with our 14-year old living room TV. It had been having occasional issues for a while with the primary HDMI input, but it always worked itself out pretty quickly. Everyone kept telling me to replace it, but I didn't want to replace something that worked for the most part. Finally, a couple weeks ago, it died. I actually looked up to see how much I had paid for the old TV: $800+ in 2008. The new TV was less than half that amount and weighs about 1/5th of the old one. It's like night and day.
About the same here. Bought a 50" plasma in 2009 when we bought our house. Seemed like an amazing upgrade from my 32" CRT. Was ecstatic I found something for less that $1k. A dead line on the screen finally made me buy a new one last year, a 65" for less than I paid for the 50"
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So I went to the store after gym today and no cheap ones in stock. Hmmm....I have found myself in a dilemma. I hate problems that aren't actual problems.
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HA! I have a Craftsmen battery-operated drill that is over 20 years old. I've replaced the batteries three times now, and in the current incarnation, I have to charge it every time I use it. If I let it sit for even a day or so, the batteries are dead (or at least useless). I FINALLY cracked and bought a Makita that is half the size and it's like night and friggin' day. Of course, my wife says "can I throw out the old one?" and I'm like, "Well... you never know when..." She says "I know. NEVER." :)
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I bought a new TV on Saturday.
Man, do I miss the days of 'Power button > Input Select> Done'. It took us nearly two hours of setup and dicking around before we were able to watch something using the PS5. The TV is too smart for its own good.
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I bought a new TV on Saturday.
Man, do I miss the days of 'Power button > Input Select> Done'. It took us nearly two hours of setup and dicking around before we were able to watch something using the PS5. The TV is too smart for its own good.
While I was at the store yesterday I saw a monitor and smart TV in one. I stood and just looked ar it for a while in disbelief!
(https://media.tenor.com/9ZG-5Xvufw4AAAAM/whoa-bill-and-ted.gif)
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I bought a new TV on Saturday.
Man, do I miss the days of 'Power button > Input Select> Done'. It took us nearly two hours of setup and dicking around before we were able to watch something using the PS5. The TV is too smart for its own good.
While I was at the store yesterday I saw a monitor and smart TV in one. I stood and just looked ar it for a while in disbelief!
(https://media.tenor.com/9ZG-5Xvufw4AAAAM/whoa-bill-and-ted.gif)
They don't let you off the farm very often, do they?
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I bought a new TV on Saturday.
Man, do I miss the days of 'Power button > Input Select> Done'. It took us nearly two hours of setup and dicking around before we were able to watch something using the PS5. The TV is too smart for its own good.
While I was at the store yesterday I saw a monitor and smart TV in one. I stood and just looked ar it for a while in disbelief!
(https://media.tenor.com/9ZG-5Xvufw4AAAAM/whoa-bill-and-ted.gif)
They don't let you off the farm very often, do they?
Obviously. :lol
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Picked up a monitor this morning, mine was so old this is only a 21 inch and it's fucking massive to me. Some porn would look incredible on this but will hold myself back lol. $98, click and collect and picked up no issues, plugged it in, off we go.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3b/05/f8/3b05f8548d1e8331fe2dd5e8be16b47e.gif)
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Picked up a monitor this morning, mine was so old this is only a 21 inch and it's fucking massive to me. Some porn would look incredible on this but will hold myself back lol. $98, click and collect and picked up no issues, plugged it in, off we go.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3b/05/f8/3b05f8548d1e8331fe2dd5e8be16b47e.gif)
Is that actually you??!! :lol
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Yes Tim, that's in fact a gif of me. :lol
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:lol
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Can't you tell the Aussie Bob, Tim? :lol
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Can't you tell the Aussie Bob, Tim? :lol
I'd kill to have that kids amount of hair.
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Haha nice upgrade on the monitor. I have 2 montiors one is an Ultrawide 34" curved monitor alongside a 32" 4k monitor.
I had this in 2005
(https://imgur.com/toEl0Wx.jpg)
When I went from a 15" screen to a 23" monitor in 2011 it blew my mind.
(https://i.imgur.com/PYTaGwc.png)
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I bought a new TV on Saturday.
Man, do I miss the days of 'Power button > Input Select> Done'. It took us nearly two hours of setup and dicking around before we were able to watch something using the PS5. The TV is too smart for its own good.
What'd ya get? I got a new TV over Christmas and I kind of had the same sentatiment. That said my old tv was broken for so long I forgot what shows looked like without a blue hue :lol
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My boss is remodeling his basement and I just helped him hang a new 82" TV.
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Haha nice upgrade on the monitor. I have 2 montiors one is an Ultrawide 34" curved monitor alongside a 32" 4k monitor.
I had this in 2005
(https://imgur.com/toEl0Wx.jpg)
When I went from a 15" screen to a 23" monitor in 2011 it blew my mind.
(https://i.imgur.com/PYTaGwc.png)
2011. :lol
Better late than never for me I guess. To be fair, my monitor wasn't as old as your one. That's an antique. I like how you've kept the same two books to prop the monitor up. :lol
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And a partial upgrade on the book stand as well! :)
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Might be cool to go back and find pictures of my previous PC set ups. Certainly went from small to fucking huge as my desk space takes up like 1/5 of my basement.
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I have a daily double of exasperating.
I flew home from Michigan today. Everything was relatively smooth until we landed. We taxied to the gate and, only after stopping did they figure out the jetway wasn't working. Really? They don't check that before directing a plane to a gate? The exasperating part was that the pilot either lied to us or passed along bad info about how long it would take. They moved us to the gate next door, but we couldn't just back out and move. We had to wait for another plane to move and then something was in the way. Every time the pilot told us how long it would take, it took twice as long. Ugh....
The second part was that, in the row across the aisle from me were two women (who I don't believe knew each other before the flight) in the aisle and middle seat, and a 3ish year old girl who belonged to middle seat lady. The child went full machine gun with "when are we going to move" and "are we there yet." Normal stuff for her age, so I don't blame her. I do, however, blame her mother who kept ignoring her so she could continue chatting with the woman in the aisle seat. Talk to your damn kid, lady! Explain what's going on and tell her that her non-stop chatter isn't helping anything and is annoying everyone else within earshot. I really wanted to reach over and give her a good smack (the mother, not the kid). But alas....
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2011. :lol
Better late than never for me I guess. To be fair, my monitor wasn't as old as your one. That's an antique. I like how you've kept the same two books to prop the monitor up. :lol
:biggrin:
The propping up with books thing is something I'm glad I've always been doing from early on. Having monitors at a proper eye level saves your body from all kinds of neck and back aches.
And a partial upgrade on the book stand as well! :)
2005 is when I was in the UK and single, 2011 is states side and married. :)
Might be cool to go back and find pictures of my previous PC set ups. Certainly went from small to fucking huge as my desk space takes up like 1/5 of my basement.
It's like a time capsule, seeing how different things were in each decade is very interesting. I wished I had some pictures of my PC from the early 90s, though it wouldn't be much different from the one in 2005.
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Might be cool to go back and find pictures of my previous PC set ups. Certainly went from small to fucking huge as my desk space takes up like 1/5 of my basement.
I think I remember seeing a pic a while back, you have a green screen set up too right?
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Might be cool to go back and find pictures of my previous PC set ups. Certainly went from small to fucking huge as my desk space takes up like 1/5 of my basement.
I think I remember seeing a pic a while back, you have a green screen set up too right?
Yeah the green screen and lights take up a lot of space. My PC itself is huge and is ontop of it's own like small dresser, then my stand up desk is nice and big with two monitors, and then I have another side desk for mostly junk and it has draws for little shit since I don't like clutter.
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Reset oven clock
Reset microwave clock
Reset wall clock #1
Reset wall clock #2
Reset DVD player clock
Reset bedroom #1 alarm clock
Reset bedroom #2 alarm clock
Reset bedroom #3 alarm clock
Reset vehicle #1 clock
Reset vehicle #2 clock
Reset watch #1
Reset watch #2
Just pick one or the other for f#@k sake and stick with it.
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I am dragging today
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Reset oven clock
Reset microwave clock
Reset wall clock #1
Reset wall clock #2
Reset DVD player clock
Reset bedroom #1 alarm clock
Reset bedroom #2 alarm clock
Reset bedroom #3 alarm clock
Reset vehicle #1 clock
Reset vehicle #2 clock
Reset watch #1
Reset watch #2
Just pick one or the other for f#@k sake and stick with it.
We should just compromise and pick the middle. There are countries that do a half-hour time zone, let's join them.
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Reset oven clock
Reset microwave clock
Reset wall clock #1
Reset wall clock #2
Reset DVD player clock
Reset bedroom #1 alarm clock
Reset bedroom #2 alarm clock
Reset bedroom #3 alarm clock
Reset vehicle #1 clock
Reset vehicle #2 clock
Reset watch #1
Reset watch #2
Just pick one or the other for f#@k sake and stick with it.
Fortunately, the only clocks we have that don't reset on their own are the microwave, the clock on my nightstand and our cars.
Still, the highlighted could not be more true.
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Reset oven clock
Reset microwave clock
Reset wall clock #1
Reset wall clock #2
Reset DVD player clock
Reset bedroom #1 alarm clock
Reset bedroom #2 alarm clock
Reset bedroom #3 alarm clock
Reset vehicle #1 clock
Reset vehicle #2 clock
Reset watch #1
Reset watch #2
Just pick one or the other for f#@k sake and stick with it.
Fortunately, the only clocks we have that don't reset on their own are the microwave, the clock on my nightstand and our cars.
Still, the highlighted could not be more true.
That used to be us but now it's gone down to oven, microwave, wall clock and car#2. Rest all sync up.
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Reset oven clock
Reset microwave clock
Reset wall clock #1
Reset wall clock #2
Reset DVD player clock
Reset bedroom #1 alarm clock
Reset bedroom #2 alarm clock
Reset bedroom #3 alarm clock
Reset vehicle #1 clock
Reset vehicle #2 clock
Reset watch #1
Reset watch #2
Just pick one or the other for f#@k sake and stick with it.
Fortunately, the only clocks we have that don't reset on their own are the microwave, the clock on my nightstand and our cars.
Still, the highlighted could not be more true.
That used to be us but now it's gone down to oven, microwave, wall clock and car#2. Rest all sync up.
Yeah, just three devices for me to manually update these days.
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Reset oven clock
Reset microwave clock
Reset wall clock #1
Reset wall clock #2
Reset DVD player clock
Reset bedroom #1 alarm clock
Reset bedroom #2 alarm clock
Reset bedroom #3 alarm clock
Reset vehicle #1 clock
Reset vehicle #2 clock
Reset watch #1
Reset watch #2
Just pick one or the other for f#@k sake and stick with it.
Fortunately, the only clocks we have that don't reset on their own are the microwave, the clock on my nightstand and our cars.
Still, the highlighted could not be more true.
That used to be us but now it's gone down to oven, microwave, wall clock and car#2. Rest all sync up.
Yeah, just three devices for me to manually update these days.
Stove and microwave in the house, one battery operated clock in the kitchen, and my car.
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I only had to do the coffee maker and microwave
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Fuck DST is hard when you have kids.
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Fuck DST is hard when you have kids.
It's the time change in general. I'm pretty sure I wrote about this earlier in the thread. My son was born in May, and getting him on a good sleep schedule as a baby was REALLY hard for us. We had just about settled into something when the "fall back" came. Completely fucked us and resulted in a LOT of crying and frustration. By the time we got around to the "spring forward" the next year, it wasn't so bad, but that first year nearly tore us apart. When they get older, it really screws them up getting up for school and maintaining an established bedtime ritual. There's just no good reason for it anymore.
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I hate both time changes with a purple passion.
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DST blows, as a computer programmer i fucking hate it lol. dealing with TZ and DST issues is one of the worst parts of my job
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DST blows, as a computer programmer i fucking hate it lol. dealing with TZ and DST issues is one of the worst parts of my job
Wow, I never even thought about that being affected.
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I hate both time changes with a purple passion.
We should just get rid of one. I don't really care which one, but just every year shoot ahead another hour (or behind, as the case may be). When I retire, it'll be full sun at midnight! :)
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I hate both time changes with a purple passion.
We should just get rid of one. I don't really care which one, but just every year shoot ahead another hour (or behind, as the case may be). When I retire, it'll be full sun at midnight! :)
Can't we just get rid of both. Everyone chooses their own personal daylight savings time and hilarity will ensue.
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I hate both time changes with a purple passion.
We should just get rid of one. I don't really care which one, but just every year shoot ahead another hour (or behind, as the case may be). When I retire, it'll be full sun at midnight! :)
Can't we just get rid of both. Everyone chooses their own personal daylight savings time and hilarity will ensue.
Why stop there? Let people decide when the weekend starts and ends! LET ME HAVE A CHOICE
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I hate both time changes with a purple passion.
We should just get rid of one. I don't really care which one, but just every year shoot ahead another hour (or behind, as the case may be). When I retire, it'll be full sun at midnight! :)
:lol
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I’ve seen people riding dirt bikes and ATVs around the city lately. I have a Dashcam on my car and I got footage of one idiot wiping out earlier
https://youtu.be/j8UkNBOvouU?si=ZY87vf9LUZclksOi
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Wow! That's hilarious! What city is that?
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Richmond, VA
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Driven through Richmond a ton of times. Never stopped, but on one trip home we stayed just north, probably in the city limits.
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Yeah it's a drive-through city. Not much reason to stop here :lol
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Yeah it's a drive-through city. Not much reason to stop here :lol
We drove to Florida at least 30 times, and I always felt like once I got through Richmond, I could finally relax a bit. Also, about 10 miles south on 95, there's an interchange that I always thought looked exactly like the Systematic Chaos album cover.
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Driven through Richmond a ton of times. Never stopped, but on one trip home we stayed just north, probably in the city limits.
Had a conference there I think 5 years ago.
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I’ve seen people riding dirt bikes and ATVs around the city lately. I have a Dashcam on my car and I got footage of one idiot wiping out earlier
https://youtu.be/j8UkNBOvouU?si=ZY87vf9LUZclksOi
Love it.
I don't like wishing for people to get hurt, but I seen way too many of these people with no regards for traffic or pedestrians.
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Driven through Richmond a ton of times. Never stopped, but on one trip home we stayed just north, probably in the city limits.
Same, although my first kiss lives just outside Richmond now.
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Today during a meeting, the presenter shared their own screen for about 5 seconds, and I saw clearly that they we're making fun of me and my body language on the call in their private messager. I honestly have no idea what they were talking about, I was just surprised by the unprofessionalism. Are we back in middle school, virtually passing notes to each other to giggle at the people who are actually trying to engage in the conversation? I keep telling myself that I'm not mad about it, but I clearly am, and expected one of those people to be a man and own up to it afterwards. But of course, they did not. I saw one of them in the hall and they scurried off afraid to even make eye contact.
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Today during a meeting, the presenter shared their own screen for about 5 seconds, and I saw clearly that they we're making fun of me and my body language on the call in their private messager. I honestly have no idea what they were talking about, I was just surprised by the unprofessionalism. Are we back in middle school, virtually passing notes to each other to giggle at the people who are actually trying to engage in the conversation? I keep telling myself that I'm not mad about it, but I clearly am, and expected one of those people to be a man and own up to it afterwards. But of course, they did not. I saw one of them in the hall and they scurried off afraid to even make eye contact.
Is the presentation backed up somewhere. Can you screenshot it and make their life hell?
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Today during a meeting, the presenter shared their own screen for about 5 seconds, and I saw clearly that they we're making fun of me and my body language on the call in their private messager. I honestly have no idea what they were talking about, I was just surprised by the unprofessionalism. Are we back in middle school, virtually passing notes to each other to giggle at the people who are actually trying to engage in the conversation? I keep telling myself that I'm not mad about it, but I clearly am, and expected one of those people to be a man and own up to it afterwards. But of course, they did not. I saw one of them in the hall and they scurried off afraid to even make eye contact.
Is the presentation backed up somewhere. Can you screenshot it and make their life hell?
HR definitely have the backup, and can easily verify any claims I would make about what they said if I wanted to go that route.
But IDK. It was teasing, moreso than anything really cruel. I've got to think carefully if I want to go that route. Typically, I don't expect much from HR, but also complaining so soon at a new gig could backfire pretty badly on how the rest of my time here works out. I'm relatively new, and these are frankly people I've got to win over if I'm going to be successful here. Complaining won't make that go away. It'll just make it harder.
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Today during a meeting, the presenter shared their own screen for about 5 seconds, and I saw clearly that they we're making fun of me and my body language on the call in their private messager. I honestly have no idea what they were talking about, I was just surprised by the unprofessionalism. Are we back in middle school, virtually passing notes to each other to giggle at the people who are actually trying to engage in the conversation? I keep telling myself that I'm not mad about it, but I clearly am, and expected one of those people to be a man and own up to it afterwards. But of course, they did not. I saw one of them in the hall and they scurried off afraid to even make eye contact.
Is the presentation backed up somewhere. Can you screenshot it and make their life hell?
HR definitely have the backup, and can easily verify any claims I would make about what they said if I wanted to go that route.
But IDK. It was teasing, moreso than anything really cruel. I've got to think carefully if I want to go that route. Typically, I don't expect much from HR, but also complaining so soon at a new gig could backfire pretty badly on how the rest of my time here works out.
Well, there's nothing wrong with going to HR and simply telling them that you want it noted, so at least there's a record in case the "harassment" continues. They don't need to address the other associate, but you do want it logged.
People are fucking assholes.
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Today during a meeting, the presenter shared their own screen for about 5 seconds, and I saw clearly that they we're making fun of me and my body language on the call in their private messager. I honestly have no idea what they were talking about, I was just surprised by the unprofessionalism. Are we back in middle school, virtually passing notes to each other to giggle at the people who are actually trying to engage in the conversation? I keep telling myself that I'm not mad about it, but I clearly am, and expected one of those people to be a man and own up to it afterwards. But of course, they did not. I saw one of them in the hall and they scurried off afraid to even make eye contact.
Is the presentation backed up somewhere. Can you screenshot it and make their life hell?
HR definitely have the backup, and can easily verify any claims I would make about what they said if I wanted to go that route.
But IDK. It was teasing, moreso than anything really cruel. I've got to think carefully if I want to go that route. Typically, I don't expect much from HR, but also complaining so soon at a new gig could backfire pretty badly on how the rest of my time here works out.
Well, there's nothing wrong with going to HR and simply telling them that you want it noted, so at least there's a record in case the "harassment" continues. They don't need to address the other associate, but you do want it logged.
People are fucking assholes.
Yep, agree. I think some form of documentation is smart. I'm not sure if you can just go to HR and just make a file note of it without putting in an official complaint? At least that way, if things escalate or turns to some sort of bullying, you've made the steps to document strange behaviors already, which may keep you on the front foot. Plus, with meetings like that on record these days, the evidence is there. You're probably better off even waiting to see if anything else happens then your argument has more weight. You are right, just going for this one small thing will be hard for them to really do anything, or want to do anything from my vast experiences.
I understand not wanting to rock the boat if you are new there but man, people are pricks and you shouldn't have to start a new job and cop that sort of shit and be angry about it, that's not on. Of course you want to win people over and get respect, but childish people like that sometimes don't deserve your time and respect, but I know you're hands are probably tied there.
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Sadly that's the shit I don't trust our HR with at all. I've made complaints before, many years ago, in a different dept, and it came back to me.
But I do trust my direct supervisor, and we'll figure something out. Some of their comments I saw were not so respectful to her, either, and she'll be straight about how we navigate this without shooting ourselves in the foot.
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Sadly that's the shit I don't trust our HR with at all. I've made complaints before, many years ago, in a different dept, and it came back to me.
But I do trust my direct supervisor, and we'll figure something out. Some of their comments I saw were not so respectful to her, either, and she'll be straight about how we navigate this without shooting ourselves in the foot.
Ah, so you're new role is still in the same organization. That makes it tricky if you've had association with the HR department before.
Was she in this meeting also if they were talking shit about her? Maybe first point of call is just have a casual convo with her. Even documenting it with her (and still documenting yourself) would be enough in this first instance and then if they continue being fuckwits, you've addressed it with your direct supervisor if you and her do take it higher. That might actually be the safest route in this early instance.
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I think involving HR is a bit over the top. They weren't meant to be comments to Skeever directly, but were accidentally shared. None of you have ever badmouthed or complained about someone on a private chat before? If it becomes clear these people are treating him poorly or elevating their comments to something more direct, then going to the supervisor first makes sense. Involving HR is only going to poison these people against him. My opinion is to let this one roll off and only elevate it if it continues. And honestly, if it were me, I'd set aside my feelings for a second and see if there is something to learn or grow from their comments.
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seems like he's already learned quite enough from it. he's learned that particular coworker is a douchenozzle
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seems like he's already learned quite enough from it. he's learned that particular coworker is a douchenozzle
Not taking sides here, but I think Lordxizor was - rightly - calling for a measure of INTERNAL learning. Whether that employee is a "douchenozzle" or not is up to Skeever to say (we don't know what the comments were).
This is a WORK environment and I have a bit of an old school way of looking at things: I'm not entitled to love and compassion from my coworkers. I'm only entitled to a modicum of general personal respect in a public setting. If someone wants to write/talk about me behind my back, so be it. It's a free country, and I can't stop them; I can only do my job to the best of my ability and hope my boss, my bosses boss, and HER boss like what I do. If I saw someone wrote "Look at that faggot cocksucker Stadler; mouthing off, talking over people, picking his nose... fuck him I'm not listening to a word he says.", that person is wrong for a number of things - "faggot" is inappropriate on every level, I've never actually sucked a cock (not that there's anything wrong with it), and internal chats are NOT protected or private (they are legally discoverable in a litigation, for example, and most organizations have policies that treat chats like emails) - but I may learn from the other points. Maybe I was justified in talking over them, maybe I wasn't. EVERY data point is a chance to learn.
I would, though, have the conversation with my boss.
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I hear ya Stads. To me, it's much less about reporting the person as much as it is wanting to have it documented. This isn't me walking into the lunchroom, and someone saying, geez, Tim's an asshole, as I am walking in. This is on a company sponsored presentation and by the slip up, it becomes a public proclamation, no?
I have a thick skin, and there's been plenty of people that I've worked with that don't like me. Walking in on a conversation in the lunchroom would roll off my back, but a posting on the lunchroom bulletin board would not sit well.
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I hear ya Stads. To me, it's much less about reporting the person as much as it is wanting to have it documented. This isn't me walking into the lunchroom, and someone saying, geez, Tim's an asshole, as I am walking in. This is on a company sponsored presentation and by the slip up, it becomes a public proclamation, no?
I have a thick skin, and there's been plenty of people that I've worked with that don't like me. Walking in on a conversation in the lunchroom would roll off my back, but a posting on the lunchroom bulletin board would not sit well.
This is a fair point–a co-worker's lack of professionalism in any sort of public environment puts everyone's livelihood at risk.
It never ceases to amaze me how much the 'high-school' element tends to permeate work places. The majority of us just want to go in, do our thing, and go home to our family. But for a certain percentage of the working public, regardless of the place, high-school never ended.
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Not really "exasperating" but nowhere else to put this... the ridiculous level of copycat/piggy-backing in commercials.
First, every commercial now has to put their brand into a "verb". "This is how you GEICO!" WTF? I'm not "GEICO-ing" anything. I might BUY car insurance, but I'm certainly not "Nationwide-ing" anything. I heard like three different variations on that last night alone; I'm pretty sure I was told that "this is how you VERIZON", though I can't remember what brands exactly did this. To me it just smacks of trying too hard to create the next "viral thing". But speaking of Verizon....
The use of the specific phrase "on us" from the cell phone companies. What is the significance of the terminology "on us"? No doubt some sociology major did a study and it has an outsize impact over other, better, more descriptive words like "free" and "at no extra charge!", which have worked for CENTURIES... but Verizon, T-mobile AND AT&T are all using that exact phraseology "on us" to note the price of the new iPhone 76 (with TITANIUM!) or whatever the Samsung product is.
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I hear ya Stads. To me, it's much less about reporting the person as much as it is wanting to have it documented. This isn't me walking into the lunchroom, and someone saying, geez, Tim's an asshole, as I am walking in. This is on a company sponsored presentation and by the slip up, it becomes a public proclamation, no?
I have a thick skin, and there's been plenty of people that I've worked with that don't like me. Walking in on a conversation in the lunchroom would roll off my back, but a posting on the lunchroom bulletin board would not sit well.
I took it as happening slightly differently. If this was in a formal presentation, then my answer does not apply. I read it as the presenter was sharing his/her screen and INADVERTENTLY his/her instant message app was shown with the offending language.
Now, legally, the instant message app is NOT private, and I tell my coworkers that all the time. But I didn't get that this was intended to be public, it was just "overheard" (metaphorically) and so much more like your water cooler/break room analogy. Skeever can correct me if I'm wrong.
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The use of the specific phrase "on us" from the cell phone companies. What is the significance of the terminology "on us"? No doubt some sociology major did a study and it has an outsize impact over other, better, more descriptive words like "free" and "at no extra charge!", which have worked for CENTURIES... but Verizon, T-mobile AND AT&T are all using that exact phraseology "on us" to note the price of the new iPhone 76 (with TITANIUM!) or whatever the Samsung product is.
Exactly. maybe not a sociology major, but sure, it's a way to make the consumer think the company is doing something for them. But as always, if you want to Geico, we'll still find a way to fuck you...on us.
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I hear ya Stads. To me, it's much less about reporting the person as much as it is wanting to have it documented. This isn't me walking into the lunchroom, and someone saying, geez, Tim's an asshole, as I am walking in. This is on a company sponsored presentation and by the slip up, it becomes a public proclamation, no?
I have a thick skin, and there's been plenty of people that I've worked with that don't like me. Walking in on a conversation in the lunchroom would roll off my back, but a posting on the lunchroom bulletin board would not sit well.
I took it as happening slightly differently. If this was in a formal presentation, then my answer does not apply. I read it as the presenter was sharing his/her screen and INADVERTENTLY his/her instant message app was shown with the offending language.
Now, legally, the instant message app is NOT private, and I tell my coworkers that all the time. But I didn't get that this was intended to be public, it was just "overheard" (metaphorically) and so much more like your water cooler/break room analogy. Skeever can correct me if I'm wrong.
t's also not "on them". The customers are paying for it. It's just built into the monthly cost.
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I hear ya Stads. To me, it's much less about reporting the person as much as it is wanting to have it documented. This isn't me walking into the lunchroom, and someone saying, geez, Tim's an asshole, as I am walking in. This is on a company sponsored presentation and by the slip up, it becomes a public proclamation, no?
I have a thick skin, and there's been plenty of people that I've worked with that don't like me. Walking in on a conversation in the lunchroom would roll off my back, but a posting on the lunchroom bulletin board would not sit well.
I took it as happening slightly differently. If this was in a formal presentation, then my answer does not apply. I read it as the presenter was sharing his/her screen and INADVERTENTLY his/her instant message app was shown with the offending language.
Now, legally, the instant message app is NOT private, and I tell my coworkers that all the time. But I didn't get that this was intended to be public, it was just "overheard" (metaphorically) and so much more like your water cooler/break room analogy. Skeever can correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm not up on exactly what's legal or not, but the message did not just go to its intended recipients, it went to all participants.
I can say something sexist to a trusted co-worker, but all I need is to someone to overhear me for me to get in trouble.
Yeah, maybe I should reread what the exact circumstances were.
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II hear ya Stads. To me, it's much less about reporting the person as much as it is wanting to have it documented. This isn't me walking into the lunchroom, and someone saying, geez, Tim's an asshole, as I am walking in. This is on a company sponsored presentation and by the slip up, it becomes a public proclamation, no?
I have a thick skin, and there's been plenty of people that I've worked with that don't like me. Walking in on a conversation in the lunchroom would roll off my back, but a posting on the lunchroom bulletin board would not sit well.
I took it as happening slightly differently. If this was in a formal presentation, then my answer does not apply. I read it as the presenter was sharing his/her screen and INADVERTENTLY his/her instant message app was shown with the offending language.
Now, legally, the instant message app is NOT private, and I tell my coworkers that all the time. But I didn't get that this was intended to be public, it was just "overheard" (metaphorically) and so much more like your water cooler/break room analogy. Skeever can correct me if I'm wrong.
t's also not "on them". The customers are paying for it. It's just built into the monthly cost.
Well, there's that too; nothing is EVER free, it's just how well the actual cost is concealed. But it always bothers me - "bothers" isn't the right word; it's more idle curious fascination - when specific phrases and terminologies become pervasive, because in certain circles - and advertising is most definitely one of them - time is money, and no word goes unscrutinized. Maybe it was working at GE during the dot-com boom, but I've become very sensitive to language in that way. I've noted other examples as well in P/R ("terrified", "unhinged", there are more...). It's NOT a coincidence, and it's NOT a mistake.
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seems like he's already learned quite enough from it. he's learned that particular coworker is a douchenozzle
I had a boss once who was a huge asshole. He berated me in front of a couple coworkers once and I was pissed as hell at him, wanted to quit, etc. He was absolutely 100% wrong in the way that he gave me negative feedback. But some of what he said was correct. Had I not been able to step away from my negative feelings about him being an asshole, I would have continued my career doing a disservice to myself through the way I was working. I am now actually thankful that situation happened. Yes, he should have sat me down privately and coached me on how to work better, but I got what I got.
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seems like he's already learned quite enough from it. he's learned that particular coworker is a douchenozzle
I had a boss once who was a huge asshole. He berated me in front of a couple coworkers once and I was pissed as he'll at him, wanted rmto quit, etc. He was absolutely 100% wrong in the way that he gave me negative feedback. But some of what he said was correct. Had a not been able to step away from my negative feelings about him being an asshole, I would have continued my career doing a disservice to myself through the way I was working. I am now actually thankful that situation happened. Yes, he should have sat me down privately and coached me on how to work better, but I got what I got.
I'm fascinated by Management and Management techniques.
I used to tell people that were having trouble with their supervisors to listen to the message, and not how it was delivered. I also had to remind people that their supervisors just might be an asshole.
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seems like he's already learned quite enough from it. he's learned that particular coworker is a douchenozzle
I had a boss once who was a huge asshole. He berated me in front of a couple coworkers once and I was pissed as he'll at him, wanted rmto quit, etc. He was absolutely 100% wrong in the way that he gave me negative feedback. But some of what he said was correct. Had a not been able to step away from my negative feelings about him being an asshole, I would have continued my career doing a disservice to myself through the way I was working. I am now actually thankful that situation happened. Yes, he should have sat me down privately and coached me on how to work better, but I got what I got.
I'm fascinated by Management and Management techniques.
I used to tell people that were having trouble with their supervisors to listen to the message, and not how it was delivered. I also had to remind people that their supervisors just might be an asshole.
I think that's a good philosophy to listen to the message not the delivery method. But yes, some people are just assholes.
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I think the thing that bugs me isn't the message, but the delivery. For sure.
Getting a DM like "you look distracted, are you having trouble focusing on this?" or "you look confused, let's talk afterwards" would have been fine with me, and often given some feedback. But to see someone's Teams chat say "Skeever's body language looks HILARIOUS" was a bit much. Also, not incredibly useful. Was I doing something distasteful? Did I look funny when I kept looking to OneNote on the other monitor to write something down? BTW, one of these guys decided to leave their camera off, so there's a peanut-gallery element to it. It makes me respect the person making that comment much less, to know that they're just hanging out, listening, taking the occasional shot at the person on the screen.
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seems like he's already learned quite enough from it. he's learned that particular coworker is a douchenozzle
I had a boss once who was a huge asshole. He berated me in front of a couple coworkers once and I was pissed as hell at him, wanted to quit, etc. He was absolutely 100% wrong in the way that he gave me negative feedback. But some of what he said was correct. Had I not been able to step away from my negative feelings about him being an asshole, I would have continued my career doing a disservice to myself through the way I was working. I am now actually thankful that situation happened. Yes, he should have sat me down privately and coached me on how to work better, but I got what I got.
I am a supervisor at my business, and I can tell you that the culture here would 1000% be against your boss's methods, and I'm confident that if someone here pulled that stunt, a group of other supervisors/leaders would pull that boss aside and have a word of prayer with him, so to speak.
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seems like he's already learned quite enough from it. he's learned that particular coworker is a douchenozzle
I had a boss once who was a huge asshole. He berated me in front of a couple coworkers once and I was pissed as hell at him, wanted to quit, etc. He was absolutely 100% wrong in the way that he gave me negative feedback. But some of what he said was correct. Had I not been able to step away from my negative feelings about him being an asshole, I would have continued my career doing a disservice to myself through the way I was working. I am now actually thankful that situation happened. Yes, he should have sat me down privately and coached me on how to work better, but I got what I got.
I am a supervisor at my business, and I can tell you that the culture here would 1000% be against your boss's methods, and I'm confident that if someone here pulled that stunt, a group of other supervisors/leaders would pull that boss aside and have a word of prayer with him, so to speak.
The culture/leadership at that company wasn't great. People were mostly scared of the guy. Thankfully I moved to a different boss shortly after (he actually got all his direct reports taken away, so they must have been paying sttention somewhat) and left the company a year or so later. Today, 13+ years more experience later, I would not allow that type of behavior to fly toward myself or anyone else were I to observe it.
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seems like he's already learned quite enough from it. he's learned that particular coworker is a douchenozzle
I had a boss once who was a huge asshole. He berated me in front of a couple coworkers once and I was pissed as hell at him, wanted to quit, etc. He was absolutely 100% wrong in the way that he gave me negative feedback. But some of what he said was correct. Had I not been able to step away from my negative feelings about him being an asshole, I would have continued my career doing a disservice to myself through the way I was working. I am now actually thankful that situation happened. Yes, he should have sat me down privately and coached me on how to work better, but I got what I got.
I am a supervisor at my business, and I can tell you that the culture here would 1000% be against your boss's methods, and I'm confident that if someone here pulled that stunt, a group of other supervisors/leaders would pull that boss aside and have a word of prayer with him, so to speak.
The culture/leadership at that company wasn't great. People were mostly scared of the guy. Thankfully I moved to a different boss shortly after (he actually got all his direct reports taken away, so they must have been paying sttention somewhat) and left the company a year or so later. Today, 13+ years more experience later, I would not allow that type of behavior to fly toward myself or anyone else were I to observe it.
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I've got to vent about something that's been driving me crazy lately. My friend insists on renting his router from his ISP, but it's causing nothing but headaches. Every time we need to use his internet, it's like wading through molasses, and I'm convinced it's because of that rental router they've got him stuck with. I've tried explaining the downsides, showing him articles online, but he won't budge. It's like he's convinced he's getting a deal because he's paying extra each month.
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I've got to vent about something that's been driving me crazy lately. My friend insists on renting his router from his ISP, but it's causing nothing but headaches. Every time we need to use his internet, it's like wading through molasses, and I'm convinced it's because of that rental router they've got him stuck with. I've tried explaining the downsides, showing him articles online, but he won't budge. It's like he's convinced he's getting a deal because he's paying extra each month.
Is he of the sort that will be swayed by the "they're controlling your internet access and monitoring EVERYTHING you do!" angle? :) :) :)
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Yeah, if he is not convinced that the savings he gets from having his own unit (assuming he is financially able to buy his own unit) and assurance of better service, then not sure anything can change his mind.
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I dont even use my own router and I'm an IT guy :lol
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I dont even use my own router and I'm an IT guy :lol
Depending who the provider is, their units can make a huge difference.
At my old apartment, I had Spectrum and their unit was crap. I bought my own unit and my internet speed doubled. When I moved 2 years ago, the only available provider for that area is Verizon. I got their unit (and only use it on Wifi) and it's some of the best internet speed I have ever had. My friend, who lives nearby and also has Verizon, uses his own device and his internet is much slower than mine.
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I dont even use my own router and I'm an IT guy :lol
Depending who the provider is, their units can make a huge difference.
At my old apartment, I had Spectrum and their unit was crap. I bought my own unit and my internet speed doubled. When I moved 2 years ago, the only available provider for that area is Verizon. I got their unit (and only use it on Wifi) and it's some of the best internet speed I have ever had. My friend, who lives nearby and also has Verizon, uses his own device and his internet is much slower than mine.
I have verizon fios. I pay for the lowest speed (50Mb) which they dont even offer anymore. They've been trying to force me to upgrade to a new router and faster (more expensive) plan but I keep ignoring it. I generally dont have home internet issues or slowness even with the slowest speed. It's just a non issue for me, kind of like "don't fix what's not broken" which is my mentality for a lot of things when it comes to my home. I do bet if I just bought a router years ago, it would have long ago paid itself off and I'd be saving money though.
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I dont even use my own router and I'm an IT guy :lol
Depending who the provider is, their units can make a huge difference.
At my old apartment, I had Spectrum and their unit was crap. I bought my own unit and my internet speed doubled. When I moved 2 years ago, the only available provider for that area is Verizon. I got their unit (and only use it on Wifi) and it's some of the best internet speed I have ever had. My friend, who lives nearby and also has Verizon, uses his own device and his internet is much slower than mine.
Was the router "on them"? :)
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I dont even use my own router and I'm an IT guy :lol
Depending who the provider is, their units can make a huge difference.
At my old apartment, I had Spectrum and their unit was crap. I bought my own unit and my internet speed doubled. When I moved 2 years ago, the only available provider for that area is Verizon. I got their unit (and only use it on Wifi) and it's some of the best internet speed I have ever had. My friend, who lives nearby and also has Verizon, uses his own device and his internet is much slower than mine.
I have verizon fios. I pay for the lowest speed (50Mb) which they dont even offer anymore. They've been trying to force me to upgrade to a new router and faster (more expensive) plan but I keep ignoring it. I generally dont have home internet issues or slowness even with the slowest speed. It's just a non issue for me, kind of like "don't fix what's not broken" which is my mentality for a lot of things when it comes to my home. I do bet if I just bought a router years ago, it would have long ago paid itself off and I'd be saving money though.
Color me surprised, given all the high-end gaming you do. That's a lesson for the kids, out there for sure. I'm paying for the top end version (at the request of the wife, to be fair) and maybe it's a waste of money.... I know I'm not blown away by my internet speeds...
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My router is "included" in the plan. Which is to say it's rolled into the plan and I'm paying for it whether I use it or not. WIFI is a different story and I will not pay for their gear.
Speed isn't something I care about beyond a certain point. So long as I can DL a movie in a reasonable amount of time I'm fine with it. I think I'm getting 300 down, which is plenty for my purposes.
I will say it's getting harder and harder to get them to come down on their prices. It used to be that if you just called and asked nicely they'd give you the introductory rate. Now they'll just laugh at you for even trying.
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I dont even use my own router and I'm an IT guy :lol
Depending who the provider is, their units can make a huge difference.
At my old apartment, I had Spectrum and their unit was crap. I bought my own unit and my internet speed doubled. When I moved 2 years ago, the only available provider for that area is Verizon. I got their unit (and only use it on Wifi) and it's some of the best internet speed I have ever had. My friend, who lives nearby and also has Verizon, uses his own device and his internet is much slower than mine.
I have verizon fios. I pay for the lowest speed (50Mb) which they dont even offer anymore. They've been trying to force me to upgrade to a new router and faster (more expensive) plan but I keep ignoring it. I generally dont have home internet issues or slowness even with the slowest speed. It's just a non issue for me, kind of like "don't fix what's not broken" which is my mentality for a lot of things when it comes to my home. I do bet if I just bought a router years ago, it would have long ago paid itself off and I'd be saving money though.
Color me surprised, given all the high-end gaming you do. That's a lesson for the kids, out there for sure. I'm paying for the top end version (at the request of the wife, to be fair) and maybe it's a waste of money.... I know I'm not blown away by my internet speeds...
Really depends on your household. It's just two of us in my house and my gf streams TV all the time, but otherwise, isn't pushing the bandwidth. Gaming is smooth and streaming is smooth if doing both at the same time, which is normal in my house. If I start say downloading a COD 50G update, it might impact the rest of the household. Streaming usually works fine, but if my gf wants to do a video meeting for work and I'm doing a download, it may cause issues. Honestly, a higher bandwidth, the only thing I would find beneficial would be to increase the time to download or update games. Really don't need anything faster at this point.
I had this same discussion with my dad who was saying he should upgrade to 1G internet, and Im like... Dad, I'm at 50M, you don't need 1G. Granted some areas the pricing is different so it may make sense for someone else.
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Comcast always updates mine. We have extremely fast internet speed.
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I dont even use my own router and I'm an IT guy :lol
Depending who the provider is, their units can make a huge difference.
At my old apartment, I had Spectrum and their unit was crap. I bought my own unit and my internet speed doubled. When I moved 2 years ago, the only available provider for that area is Verizon. I got their unit (and only use it on Wifi) and it's some of the best internet speed I have ever had. My friend, who lives nearby and also has Verizon, uses his own device and his internet is much slower than mine.
Was the router "on them"? :)
Do you even router? :lol
I was confused at first, as I wasn't distinguishing between "modem" and "router". The (Bell) modem is part of the plan - that's what brings the TV and Internet service into the house. It also has a built in wi-fi router in it as well. There's no additional charge for this device (there is an additional charge for the DVR boxes that connect to the TVs). I then also have my own (TP-Link) routers so that I have better coverage throughout my home.
So, does PMS' buddy rent additional wi-fi router(s), or is it the modem-router that is being rented? I interpreted PMS' post that they're paying additional for their own shitty white-labled wi-fi routers, and that's a waste of money.
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I dont even use my own router and I'm an IT guy :lol
Depending who the provider is, their units can make a huge difference.
At my old apartment, I had Spectrum and their unit was crap. I bought my own unit and my internet speed doubled. When I moved 2 years ago, the only available provider for that area is Verizon. I got their unit (and only use it on Wifi) and it's some of the best internet speed I have ever had. My friend, who lives nearby and also has Verizon, uses his own device and his internet is much slower than mine.
Was the router "on them"? :)
Do you even router? :lol
HAHAHA that got a screen full of coffee. Nice! :)
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I dont even use my own router and I'm an IT guy :lol
Depending who the provider is, their units can make a huge difference.
At my old apartment, I had Spectrum and their unit was crap. I bought my own unit and my internet speed doubled. When I moved 2 years ago, the only available provider for that area is Verizon. I got their unit (and only use it on Wifi) and it's some of the best internet speed I have ever had. My friend, who lives nearby and also has Verizon, uses his own device and his internet is much slower than mine.
Was the router "on them"? :)
Do you even router? :lol
HAHAHA that got a screen full of coffee. Nice! :)
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I dont even use my own router and I'm an IT guy :lol
Depending who the provider is, their units can make a huge difference.
At my old apartment, I had Spectrum and their unit was crap. I bought my own unit and my internet speed doubled. When I moved 2 years ago, the only available provider for that area is Verizon. I got their unit (and only use it on Wifi) and it's some of the best internet speed I have ever had. My friend, who lives nearby and also has Verizon, uses his own device and his internet is much slower than mine.
Was the router "on them"? :)
Do you even router? :lol
I was confused at first, as I wasn't distinguishing between "modem" and "router". The (Bell) modem is part of the plan - that's what brings the TV and Internet service into the house. It also has a built in wi-fi router in it as well. There's no additional charge for this device (there is an additional charge for the DVR boxes that connect to the TVs). I then also have my own (TP-Link) routers so that I have better coverage throughout my home.
So, does PMS' buddy rent additional wi-fi router(s), or is it the modem-router that is being rented? I interpreted PMS' post that they're paying additional for their own shitty white-labled wi-fi routers, and that's a waste of money.
The latter, I'm pretty sure it's a scam aimed at senior citizens.
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Had no idea you guys rented your modem/routers from ISPs over there. Over here ISPs just sell them outright; usually for more than they're worth, often just given away for free in promotions, but at least there's no ongoing cost involved.
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Had no idea you guys rented your modem/routers from ISPs over there. Over here ISPs just sell them outright; usually for more than they're worth, often just given away for free in promotions, but at least there's no ongoing cost involved.
We have it pretty damn good over here hey?
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Had no idea you guys rented your modem/routers from ISPs over there. Over here ISPs just sell them outright; usually for more than they're worth, often just given away for free in promotions, but at least there's no ongoing cost involved.
We have it pretty damn good over here hey?
As far as the equipment goes maybe, we get shafted on the service though. :lol
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Those bumper stickers that say "Tell your dog I said hi"
What is the message here? Do you have some history with my dog I am unaware of? Are you seeing him without my knowledge? Is he cheating on me? Do you come over when I am at work, rub his belly and give him treats?
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I dont even use my own router and I'm an IT guy :lol
Depending who the provider is, their units can make a huge difference.
At my old apartment, I had Spectrum and their unit was crap. I bought my own unit and my internet speed doubled. When I moved 2 years ago, the only available provider for that area is Verizon. I got their unit (and only use it on Wifi) and it's some of the best internet speed I have ever had. My friend, who lives nearby and also has Verizon, uses his own device and his internet is much slower than mine.
Was the router "on them"? :)
Do you even router? :lol
I was confused at first, as I wasn't distinguishing between "modem" and "router". The (Bell) modem is part of the plan - that's what brings the TV and Internet service into the house. It also has a built in wi-fi router in it as well. There's no additional charge for this device (there is an additional charge for the DVR boxes that connect to the TVs). I then also have my own (TP-Link) routers so that I have better coverage throughout my home.
So, does PMS' buddy rent additional wi-fi router(s), or is it the modem-router that is being rented? I interpreted PMS' post that they're paying additional for their own shitty white-labled wi-fi routers, and that's a waste of money.
I'm one of those guys who has friends who also get a little too invested in my home router situation. I wound up looking into this a little bit ago because a friend of mine was in disbelief that I used the router Comcast provide. I was starting to look at what it would take to upgrade, but I found out what Comcast charge me 15 bucks a month for is not really a "router" as much as it's a "access portal" that is both a modem and a router.
After doing some testing around the house, it's not bad enough for me to throw money for two devices at. I just ran a speed test from the furthest room in my house and got 150 Mbps, and I get like 400 in the living room next to the access portal. Plus I hardwire anything important.
Of course, anytime I've had an issue, I simply call the company and they either remote into the access portal to fix it or send me a few miles away to a store where I pick up a upgraded model. So, not a scam to me, it's a pretty decent service as far as I'm concerned!
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Same for me, Skeever. They mailed the upgrade to me.
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I dont even use my own router and I'm an IT guy :lol
Depending who the provider is, their units can make a huge difference.
At my old apartment, I had Spectrum and their unit was crap. I bought my own unit and my internet speed doubled. When I moved 2 years ago, the only available provider for that area is Verizon. I got their unit (and only use it on Wifi) and it's some of the best internet speed I have ever had. My friend, who lives nearby and also has Verizon, uses his own device and his internet is much slower than mine.
Was the router "on them"? :)
Do you even router? :lol
I was confused at first, as I wasn't distinguishing between "modem" and "router". The (Bell) modem is part of the plan - that's what brings the TV and Internet service into the house. It also has a built in wi-fi router in it as well. There's no additional charge for this device (there is an additional charge for the DVR boxes that connect to the TVs). I then also have my own (TP-Link) routers so that I have better coverage throughout my home.
So, does PMS' buddy rent additional wi-fi router(s), or is it the modem-router that is being rented? I interpreted PMS' post that they're paying additional for their own shitty white-labled wi-fi routers, and that's a waste of money.
I'm one of those guys who has friends who also get a little too invested in my home router situation. I wound up looking into this a little bit ago because a friend of mine was in disbelief that I used the router Comcast provide. I was starting to look at what it would take to upgrade, but I found out what Comcast charge me 15 bucks a month for is not really a "router" as much as it's a "access portal" that is both a modem and a router.
After doing some testing around the house, it's not bad enough for me to throw money for two devices at. I just ran a speed test from the furthest room in my house and got 150 Mbps, and I get like 400 in the living room next to the access portal. Plus I hardwire anything important.
Of course, anytime I've had an issue, I simply call the company and they either remote into the access portal to fix it or send me a few miles away to a store where I pick up a upgraded model. So, not a scam to me, it's a pretty decent service as far as I'm concerned!
Normally I would recommend a repeater if you're hardwired but I can't imagine you would be experiencing attenuation in your house. I go wireless for our use and an extender for upstairs.
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Power out since 2 am. Since I use a C-pap, I have been awake since 2 am. Fuck.
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Oh shit. That sucks man.
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I feel like I have a hang over. No c-pap, no sleep.
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I use a CPAP, and when we had a hurricane over a year ago, the power went out and I was up for over 24 hours with two little kids. We then bought a backup battery for the next time because yeah, it feels like you are just hung over.
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Yeah and I'm going to a concert tonight.
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This falls under the general header of people are inconsiderate:
I went to Farmer Boys for lunch today, and some a-hole a couple tables over was watching videos on his phone with the volume up. Not so loud that I really felt the need to say something, but loud enough to be occasionally annoying (especially when mixed with the music playing on the restaurant's speakers). Get a damn pair of headphones!
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This falls under the general header of people are inconsiderate:
I went to Farmer Boys for lunch today, and some a-hole a couple tables over was watching videos on his phone with the volume up. Not so loud that I really felt the need to say something, but loud enough to be occasionally annoying (especially when mixed with the music playing on the restaurant's speakers). Get a damn pair of headphones!
I HATE this so much. No consideration for anyone else?
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This falls under the general header of people are inconsiderate:
I went to Farmer Boys for lunch today, and some a-hole a couple tables over was watching videos on his phone with the volume up. Not so loud that I really felt the need to say something, but loud enough to be occasionally annoying (especially when mixed with the music playing on the restaurant's speakers). Get a damn pair of headphones!
I've noticed this so much since they got rid of headphone jacks. People would buy a shitty $5 pair of CVS earbuds in the past if they lost their pair, but now that phones don't even come earbuds anymore and the "cheap" bluetooth earbuds are like $35, there's a type of person who just says "fuck it".
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Don't even get me started on Bluetooth speakers on the golf course. If I were a king, such behavior you land you in a sand trap for a week as punishment.
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Read a piece today that California and possibly a few other states are seriously considering an "exit tax" for people moving out. Man, that seems unconstitutional to me but whatever. One thing is for sure, I would NEVER return to any state that penalized me for leaving.
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Read a piece today that California and possibly a few other states are seriously considering an "exit tax" for people moving out. Man, that seems unconstitutional to me but whatever. One thing is for sure, I would NEVER return to any state that penalized me for leaving.
I'm not sure there's anything good coming out of California. It's a nice place to visit, but man, they want your money.
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I'm not sure there's anything good coming out of California. It's a nice place to visit, but man, they want your money.
That's what communism does. :) :) :) I kid!!! I kid!!!
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That's what communism does. :) :) :) I kid!!! I kid!!!
This is why Newsom will never be an option for me.
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Earlier during my commute, there is a station I listen to that was talking about "non-compete" agreements, and how it is going to be banned nationwide (non-compete is pretty much the period you have to wait before leaving a job for the competition).
This feels exactly like that and I don't see how it gets approved.
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Read a piece today that California and possibly a few other states are seriously considering an "exit tax" for people moving out. Man, that seems unconstitutional to me but whatever. One thing is for sure, I would NEVER return to any state that penalized me for leaving.
Yeah...I suspect that would fail under either the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment or the non-textual right to travel between states. One thing's for sure, if they were to enact that, you'd have a MASSIVE exodus of people moving before it goes into effect.
I'm not sure there's anything good coming out of California. It's a nice place to visit, but man, they want your money.
Last week, I put gas in my rental car twice for $3.499 and $3.599 per gallon (MA a NH respectively). I'll be filling up my car today, and the "cheap" gas station I go to was at $4.899 as of Sunday (and the station closest to my house was $5.079/$5.379 for cash/credit as of last night).
That's what communism does. :) :) :) I kid!!! I kid!!!
*socialism
There's a reason why I have frequently referred to my home state as The People's Socialist Republic of California.
Earlier during my commute, there is a station I listen to that was talking about "non-compete" agreements, and how it is going to be banned nationwide (non-compete is pretty much the period you have to wait before leaving a job for the competition).
This feels exactly like that and I don't see how it gets approved.
California has LONG made non-compete agreements unenforceable, EXCEPT in connection with the sale of as business. It's a pretty good law, and it's the sort of thing that ought to be nationalized - especially given the significant increase in interstate business contracts.
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Yeah, contrary to what FOX news would have you believe (Thinking of moving? Your blue state may soon charge you an exit tax), it applies to people or businesses making 30 million or more per year. Anybody here worried about that? I'm not in favour of it, but only for one reason. If it were linked to how much of your revenue actually came from California I'd be just fine with it. If you operate there but most of your revenue came from elsewhere it's a different matter.
As for gas costs, I'd ask people the same question. Would you rather spend an extra dollar per gallon, or go back to the days of having yellow air?
(https://www.sierraclub.org/sites/default/files/blog/_planet/Los%20Angeles%20smog.jpg)
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I have a question...
When did having a "2nd job" become having a "side hustle"?
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A way to rename what usually sucks to do.
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A way to rename what usually sucks to do.
Well put.
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Is it, obviously not politically correct, but is it something a mental health expert came up with?
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Is it, obviously not politically correct, but is it something a mental health expert came up with?
I believe it's actually a very old expression. It's definitely not modern, even if it's now become popular. And I think the entire point is that it sounds a whole lot better for everybody than "I need two jobs to live."
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A quick google search says it is first recorded in 1950s in The Chicago Defender.
Beyond that, I doubt any mental health professional would try to coin a term like that. Especially back then. I’d say Jimmy is correct.
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I believe it's actually a very old expression. It's definitely not modern, even if it's now become popular.
Yeah, you're right.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/words-were-watching-side-hustle
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Beyond that, I doubt any mental health professional would try to coin a term like that. Especially back then.
I don't recall ever hearing the term side hustle until the last few years, so I was just wondering if it was a...gentler language being used.
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It's probably just in much more widespread use now that standard of living/jobs has been particularly in the toilet these last few years
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True. It's also probably because these "side hustles" might be changing in nature. While I'm sure plenty of people are using to just mean a second job, I feel like a lot of people are using it to describe work that isn't a typical job for someone else. Maybe working for themselves or something, as opposed to a company under someone else.
I don't imagine too many people are referring to their graveyard shift at Dunkin as a side hustle.
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True. It's also probably because these "side hustles" might be changing in nature. While I'm sure plenty of people are using to just mean a second job, I feel like a lot of people are using it to describe work that isn't a typical job for someone else. Maybe working for themselves or something, as opposed to a company under someone else.
I don't imagine too many people are referring to their graveyard shift at Dunkin as a side hustle.
Yeah, that makes sense.
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I suspect the gig economy is what's popularized it. When I think of a side hustle I think of driving for Uber or delivering take out to drunk college kids.
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I suspect the gig economy is what's popularized it.
Yeah. I think this is right. Like I said, I don't think I've ever heard the term before a couple of years ago or so.
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True. It's also probably because these "side hustles" might be changing in nature. While I'm sure plenty of people are using to just mean a second job, I feel like a lot of people are using it to describe work that isn't a typical job for someone else. Maybe working for themselves or something, as opposed to a company under someone else.
I don't imagine too many people are referring to their graveyard shift at Dunkin as a side hustle.
Cynic alert! I just took it as another way social media has aided us in our steady descent into insecurity. It's not self-affirming to say "I have a second job"; it's got to be glorified, exalted, in order to send the message to all the peeps that "I got this!" (another self-affirming statement that, if you notice, is only true about half the time, roughly that of a coin flip).
There's also the component that "hustle" is a term used in certain communities to celebrate those that "work", and not just work, but work "harder" and "smarter" (https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/real-meaning-word-hustle-anthony-iannarino/). Again, there's a LOT of "self-affirmation" here.
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Cynic alert! I just took it as another way social media has aided us in our steady descent into insecurity. It's not self-affirming to say "I have a second job"; it's got to be glorified, exalted, in order to send the message to all the peeps that "I got this!" (another self-affirming statement that, if you notice, is only true about half the time, roughly that of a coin flip).
There's also the component that "hustle" is a term used in certain communities to celebrate those that "work", and not just work, but work "harder" and "smarter" (https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/real-meaning-word-hustle-anthony-iannarino/). Again, there's a LOT of "self-affirmation" here.
I really think you're overthinking this.
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Cynic alert! I just took it as another way social media has aided us in our steady descent into insecurity. It's not self-affirming to say "I have a second job"; it's got to be glorified, exalted, in order to send the message to all the peeps that "I got this!" (another self-affirming statement that, if you notice, is only true about half the time, roughly that of a coin flip).
There's also the component that "hustle" is a term used in certain communities to celebrate those that "work", and not just work, but work "harder" and "smarter" (https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/real-meaning-word-hustle-anthony-iannarino/). Again, there's a LOT of "self-affirmation" here.
I was kind of thinking along these lines too. The term sounds a bit “ feel good-y”. Maybe it’s not but that’s why I was asking if it was something new or mental health related.
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I really think you're overthinking this.
This. I've been hearing side hustle since before social media. It's just a way to describe a second/not your main source of income
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I guess this is more exasperating than enraging, but only because it's been going on for a few days. I need a root canal. I have no dental insurance. I've been in moderate to significant discomfort since Saturday. My dentist doesn't do them so he sent me home with hydrocodone, antibitoics, and a referral to an endodontist and a warning that I'm probably looking at $2k. On top of the two large I'll still need to have him install a proper filling, if not a crown, once the root canal is done and healed. Since it's a molar that's probably another $450. To put it bluntly, burning $3k (I also need another filling) to be able to use half of my mouth will hurt just as much as the bum tooth.
I'm actually exploring traveling to somewhere to get it done. If it were just a crown I wouldn't bat an eye at Mexico, but a root canal isn't something you really want to roll the dice with. Oddly, Canada isn't too far off the mark from the US. Winnepeg would save me some money (and I'd get to explore Manitoba), but there are still problems with traveling (you kind of need to remain nearby for potential followups). Arkansas would be a decent compromise, as hillbillies aren't known for spending a buttload of money on dental care.
However, the issue still remains that dentists/endodontists in this country are just like doctors, in that they will never, ever tell you costs up front. That makes comparative shopping impossible. I guess that's probably my biggest problem with all of this. As with most medical things in this shithole country, you're just expected to get treatment, and then pay whatever it is that they decide to charge you. It just sucks.
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Cynic alert! I just took it as another way social media has aided us in our steady descent into insecurity. It's not self-affirming to say "I have a second job"; it's got to be glorified, exalted, in order to send the message to all the peeps that "I got this!" (another self-affirming statement that, if you notice, is only true about half the time, roughly that of a coin flip).
There's also the component that "hustle" is a term used in certain communities to celebrate those that "work", and not just work, but work "harder" and "smarter" (https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/real-meaning-word-hustle-anthony-iannarino/). Again, there's a LOT of "self-affirmation" here.
Side hustle to me has come to mean "monetizing your hobbies." Like saying, "I'm an accountant, but I also sell homemade jewelry on Etsy." It's "late stage capitalism" demanding that you monetize everything in your life. Why just do things for fun when you can make money at it? :\ :yeahright :tdwn
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Bart, what about just getting it yanked?
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Growing up, it was always a "side job" in my family/area. My dad was an HVAC mechanic. Any time he did work for a neighbor for cash, it was a side job. We knew local firemen - they worked on 24 hours, then off 48. During that 48 hours, they had side jobs that included painting or flooring installation.
I've never heard it called a side hustle until recently, and I personally will never use the term.
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Bart, what about just getting it yanked?
Already missing the molar next to it from thirty plus years ago, plus the wisdom tooth. That'd leave me more than a little deficient on that side.
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I really think you're overthinking this.
Have we met?
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Side hustle to me has come to mean "monetizing your hobbies." Like saying, "I'm an accountant, but I also sell homemade jewelry on Etsy." It's "late stage capitalism" demanding that you monetize everything in your life. Why just do things for fun when you can make money at it? :\ :yeahright :tdwn
There was an ad for I think Mercari that showed how they could help with your "side hustle"... of selling the shit you bought and don't need anymore and/or can't fit into. :)
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Have we met?
:lol
Dude, it may not always come across, but I really think a lot of you.
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:lol
Dude, it may not always come across, but I really think a lot of you.
As opposed to thinking a lot *about* you. :lol
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As opposed to thinking a lot *about* you. :lol
Different story
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"Side hustle", to me, has always meant a second income source that's not through any kind of employer or legal channels (no side LLCs in addition to your full time job). When I look back at when I was making custom geocache containers, or trying to profit on lettuce grown indoors, I'd consider those to be "side hustles". My job on Sundays, which required a background check and takes taxes out of every check, is a "second job". A side hustle is something that you choose to do at your own leisure, and if you stop doing it for a month, nobody but you is impacted.
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"Side hustle", to me, has always meant a second income source that's not through any kind of employer or legal channels (no side LLCs in addition to your full time job). When I look back at when I was making custom geocache containers, or trying to profit on lettuce grown indoors, I'd consider those to be "side hustles". My job on Sundays, which required a background check and takes taxes out of every check, is a "second job". A side hustle is something that you choose to do at your own leisure, and if you stop doing it for a month, nobody but you is impacted.
Yeah, I feel like the term has always existed as far as I recall and it usually meant an illegal or undocumented source of income. I think today it's come to just mean second job for a lot of people.
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"Side hustle", to me, has always meant a second income source that's not through any kind of employer or legal channels (no side LLCs in addition to your full time job). When I look back at when I was making custom geocache containers, or trying to profit on lettuce grown indoors, I'd consider those to be "side hustles". My job on Sundays, which required a background check and takes taxes out of every check, is a "second job". A side hustle is something that you choose to do at your own leisure, and if you stop doing it for a month, nobody but you is impacted.
This is how I've always taken it.
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Yeah, contrary to what FOX news would have you believe (Thinking of moving? Your blue state may soon charge you an exit tax), it applies to people or businesses making 30 million or more per year. Anybody here worried about that? I'm not in favour of it, but only for one reason. If it were linked to how much of your revenue actually came from California I'd be just fine with it. If you operate there but most of your revenue came from elsewhere it's a different matter.
As for gas costs, I'd ask people the same question. Would you rather spend an extra dollar per gallon, or go back to the days of having yellow air?
(https://www.sierraclub.org/sites/default/files/blog/_planet/Los%20Angeles%20smog.jpg)
Great post. In Denver, we have this conversation every Winter/Spring when we get all the snow. A lot of the trucks only plow specific streets and areas based on sunlight and the idea is to "let the sun melt the rest" which is something the city put into practice a few decades ago to avoid Denver being that exact picture again. But people will undoubtably complain every time it snows saying "The city barely plows". It's funny to see as someone who doesn't own a car. Cars in this country are so ingrained into everything in such a stupid way, it's so nice being able to live car-free, I consider myself very fortunate
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Already missing the molar next to it from thirty plus years ago, plus the wisdom tooth. That'd leave me more than a little deficient on that side.
Gotcha. I've been pulling them as I go, but one or two more and I'll have to get some sort of plate.
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Gotcha. I've been pulling them as I go, but one or two more and I'll have to get some sort of plate.
Other side of my mouth I'd probably go that route. I'm just annoyed as all fuck that I even have to consider it a viable option.
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Hope you find a good solution to the tooth. But if you do get it pulled, please update the avatar.
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Already missing the molar next to it from thirty plus years ago, plus the wisdom tooth. That'd leave me more than a little deficient on that side.
As someone who has spent close to $30k in dental work since 2018 (that's after insurance) my recommendation is to not lose the tooth if possible. Jaw bone disintegration is a real bitch and will effect you later in life. I would say if you're interested in traveling for dental work I've had a few friends go to Columbia and had great results at the 5h of the price.
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As someone who has spent close to $30k in dental work since 2018 (that's after insurance) my recommendation is to not lose the tooth if possible. Jaw bone disintegration is a real bitch and will effect you later in life. I would say if you're interested in traveling for dental work I've had a few friends go to Columbia and had great results at the 5h of the price.
Why Colombia and not Mexico?
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From what I've been told it's price and seemingly nicer looking offices from when they were doing their research. My co-worker just came back where he got veneers and they look fantastic all for less than 10k.
My mom did a bunch of dental work overseas also but that was in Lithuania.