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Title: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: KevShmev on May 18, 2021, 06:28:09 AM
I will go with six.

As much as I like a lot of material from ...AJFA and the 90's albums, my 10 favorite Metallica songs are all from Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets.

For Whom the Bell Tolls
Fade to Black
Creeping Death
The Call of Ktulu
Master of Puppets
The Thing That Should Not Be
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
Disposable Heroes
Leper Messiah
Orion
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Zantera on May 18, 2021, 06:31:33 AM
Maybe 5?. I know Damage Inc and Leper Messiah wouldn't make my top10 (I still like both), there's a few that either just make it or not.

Without sitting down and making a compiled Metallica top10, I think either 4 or 5.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 18, 2021, 06:41:41 AM
Honestly, just the title track.

I like the whole album, but for the most part, I think it's better as a unit than singly.  The title track is sensational, and is easily in my Top 10, but the rest of my Top 10 is populated by my favorite songs from other albums.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Lonk on May 18, 2021, 07:00:24 AM
Looking at the track list and thinking about the other albums, 4 songs.

Fade to Black
Master of Puppets
Disposable Heroes
Orion
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: MirrorMask on May 18, 2021, 07:02:10 AM
Looking at the track list and thinking about the other albums, 4 songs.

Fade to Black
Master of Puppets
Disposable Heroes
Orion

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Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Lonk on May 18, 2021, 07:05:32 AM
Looking at the track list and thinking about the other albums, 4 songs.

Fade to Black
Master of Puppets
Disposable Heroes
Orion

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Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 18, 2021, 07:55:59 AM
Battery
Master of puppets
Sanitarium
Orion

The rest of my top ten:

Fade to black
Nothing else matters
Ride the lightning
The 4 horsemen
Unforgiven
For whom the bell tolls


Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: DTA on May 18, 2021, 08:21:54 AM
Zero

Most of my favorites come from Load/Reload/TBA/Lightning but I still really like every single song on MoP with the title track, Battery, and Sanitarium being very close to making the top 10.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Zydar on May 18, 2021, 08:26:27 AM
I'd guess two - Battery and the title track. The album is equally strong overall, except Leper Messiah which is the weak(er) link there for me.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: krands85 on May 18, 2021, 08:39:15 AM
Only 2 probably - MoP and Battery - even though it's my favourite Metallica album and one of the best metal albums ever.

Top 10 in chronological order would be something like:

Ride the Lightning
For Whom the Bell Tolls
Creeping Death
Am I Evil?
Battery
Master of Puppets
Blackened
...And Justice for All
One
Spit out the Bone

Welcome Home (Sanitarium) might sneak in if Am I Evil was excluded. Honourable mentions to The Four Horsemen, Fade to Black and The Day that Never Comes.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: WildRanger on May 18, 2021, 09:01:24 AM
Probably these 3: Sanitarium, Battery and Disposable Heroes.

IMO the title track is over-praised.



Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on May 18, 2021, 09:39:16 AM
01: Master of Puppets*
02: Orion*
03: Welcome Home (Sanitarium)*
04: Blackened
05: Sad But True
06: Creeping Death
07: …And Justice For All
08: All Nightmare Long
09: The Four Horsemen
10: Damage Inc.*

Looking at the track list and thinking about the other albums, 4 songs.

Fade to Black
Master of Puppets
Disposable Heroes
Orion

Fade to Black is on Ride the Lightning. Sanitarium is the ballad on Master of Puppets.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: pg1067 on May 18, 2021, 09:48:43 AM
Hmmm...

My top 10 would for sure include the following:

Creeping Death
Call of Ktulu
Battery
Master of Puppets
Damage, Inc.
Blackened
The Shortest Straw
Dyers Eve

That leaves two spots, which would go to two of the following:

The Four Horsemen
For Whom the Bell Tolls
Fade to Black
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
Wherever I May Roam
Nothing Else Matters

So...I voted for 3.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Lonk on May 18, 2021, 10:18:42 AM
Looking at the track list and thinking about the other albums, 4 songs.

Fade to Black
Master of Puppets
Disposable Heroes
Orion

Fade to Black is on Ride the Lightning. Sanitarium is the ballad on Master of Puppets.

:facepalm: Took me until you pointed it out to remember that. In that case my answer is 3 :|
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: 425 on May 18, 2021, 11:16:28 AM
Orion probably makes it. Nothing else comes particularly close. This is not among my favorite Metallica albums.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: TAC on May 18, 2021, 12:07:53 PM
Honestly, just the title track.

Yeah I think so as well. I'd have to sit and do a Top 10, but at first glance, I think this would be the only one that'd make it.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: twosuitsluke on May 18, 2021, 12:32:28 PM
Just Master of Puppets and Orion for me. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE every song (not you Leper Messiah) but they just have such a strong catalogue!
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Elite on May 18, 2021, 12:35:48 PM
The title-track I guess? and Battery

Damage Inc. and Disposable Heroes are possible, but I'm not sure what other Metallica songs I'd want in my personal top 10 anyway.

Some definitive contenders are Ride the Lightning, Fade to Black, One and Blackened. Wherever I May Roam and Nothing Else Matters as well.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: kirksnosehair on May 18, 2021, 12:40:27 PM
I like the heavy one with the wah-soaked pentatonic guitar solo  :corn




ZERO - my answer is zero.  I don't really have a top 10 list of favorite Metallica songs because I'm not really that much of a fan.  But if I had to pick 10 songs none of the songs on this album would be on my list. 
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: bl5150 on May 18, 2021, 04:49:37 PM
Master of Puppets
Disposable Heroes
Sanitarium
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: EPICVIEW on May 18, 2021, 05:20:37 PM
Classic Album    Classic tour....  I went with 4
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Dream Team on May 18, 2021, 07:31:59 PM
Lately I tend to like Disposable more than the others. Battery and Damage could also make the list but I have 5 from Lightning, 2 from Justice and 2 from Metal Up Your Ass so . . .

Oh, almost forgot Spit Out The Bone.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Adami on May 18, 2021, 07:33:28 PM
I can't get into rankings, but I can go as far as my top 2 Metallica songs, which are Dyer's Eve and Fixxxer. I love every song off MoP and I assume a few would make my top 10 if I cared to make one. it's a fantastic album, every song.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: TAC on May 18, 2021, 07:41:53 PM
Dyer's Eve is amazing!
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: TAC on May 18, 2021, 07:52:56 PM
Here is my Top 10 in chronological order

Hit The Lights
Whiplash
The Four Horsemen
Creeping Death
Fade To Black
Master Of Puppets
Blackened
One
Dyer's Eve
Frayed Ends Of Sanity





Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Adami on May 18, 2021, 07:57:20 PM
Dyer's Eve is amazing!

It really is. It sad they didn’t play it live back in the 80s or early 90s. It just has no bite when they do it in the 2000s and Lars always skips out on the double bass.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: 425 on May 18, 2021, 08:35:26 PM
I'll take up the other one: Fixxxer is amazing! You can keep all your thrash classics; that's the most intense chorus in the Metallica discography.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Volante99 on May 18, 2021, 09:28:22 PM
I picked 3
Master of Puppets, Sanitarium, and Disposable Heroes are all top tier ‘tallica for me.

Battery is probably a top 15 though.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Volante99 on May 18, 2021, 09:32:34 PM


ZERO - my answer is zero.  I don't really have a top 10 list of favorite Metallica songs because I'm not really that much of a fan.  But if I had to pick 10 songs none of the songs on this album would be on my list.

Lemme guess- you’re ‘that guy’ who digs ‘the Disappear song’ from that Tom Cruise movie.  :angel: :corn
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Zoom E on May 18, 2021, 11:17:28 PM
At least three. Master of Puppets, Welcome Home (SanitariumJ and Orion.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Trav86 on May 19, 2021, 03:34:08 AM
I had to think about this because I’m not sure if I’ve ever made a Top 10 Metallica Songs list.
I came up with four…

Master of Puppets
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
Disposable Heroes
Orion
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Mladen on May 19, 2021, 04:35:07 AM
Probably only two. The title track and Disposable heroes.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: cfmoran13 on May 19, 2021, 05:49:10 AM
Three.  Battery, Puppets, Disposable Heroes.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: DTA on May 19, 2021, 06:02:01 AM


ZERO - my answer is zero.  I don't really have a top 10 list of favorite Metallica songs because I'm not really that much of a fan.  But if I had to pick 10 songs none of the songs on this album would be on my list.

Lemme guess- you’re ‘that guy’ who digs ‘the Disappear song’ from that Tom Cruise movie.  :angel: :corn

That's a great song and is better than a lot of what's come after it
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Dream Team on May 19, 2021, 07:12:44 AM
Dyer's Eve is amazing!

It really is. It sad they didn’t play it live back in the 80s or early 90s. It just has no bite when they do it in the 2000s and Lars always skips out on the double bass.

Album version is KILLER. I’d like to hear other metal bands with capable drummers cover it. I still have a fever dream of Portnoy replacing Ulrich.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: nicmos on May 19, 2021, 11:15:24 AM
Probably these 3: Sanitarium, Battery and Disposable Heroes.

IMO the title track is over-praised.

Thank you.  I agree with this whole post.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Samsara on May 19, 2021, 11:26:30 AM
I've never compiled a Metallica top-10. All of those tracks would come from Lighting through Justice though. So I'd probably say maybe...two or three would be from Puppets. I'd have to sit down with Lightning, Puppets, and Justice and do it. But my guess is, I'd have three from Puppets, three from Lightning, and four from Justice.

11-20 would have a another track or two from each of those, plus something from KEM, the Black album, and probably Bleeding Me.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Stadler on May 19, 2021, 11:29:39 AM
I'm listening to Train's version of Zeppelin II right now, but I may try to put a Met Top 10 together.  It's going to be hard though.  I would predict that there are no songs from MoP on there, or at the most one.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Kotowboy on May 21, 2021, 05:54:54 AM
Not sure but I know that MOP as an album is a 10/10. I dunno If I could fault it.

I can understand people preferring Ride The Lightning but Escape isn't the best and Ktulu isn't as good as Orion.

But I can't understand people preferring And Justice For All. As it's so monotonous and boring. Sounds like cack and To Live Is To Die is just terrible.

I'd even put Suicide And Redemption above To Live is to Die as an instrumental.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Adami on May 21, 2021, 06:38:17 AM
Not sure but I know that MOP as an album is a 10/10. I dunno If I could fault it.

I can understand people preferring Ride The Lightning but Escape isn't the best and Ktulu isn't as good as Orion.

But I can't understand people preferring And Justice For All. As it's so monotonous and boring. Sounds like cack and To Live Is To Die is just terrible.

I'd even put Suicide And Redemption above To Live is to Die as an instrumental.

I prefer Justice, despite the mix and I think TLITD is an amazing song. Tastes vary I guess.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Stadler on May 21, 2021, 08:20:46 AM
Not sure but I know that MOP as an album is a 10/10. I dunno If I could fault it.


I just don't see that.  I listened to it in it's entirety yesterday and it was "meh". Just the vocals (the sound, not the quality) bring it off a 10.   Sanitarium was pretty good, as was Orion, but it was good in the sense of "interesting", not in the sense of "oh, my, GOD that changes the game!",  like I got with something like The Number Of The Beast.   I guess there's something to the freshness and enthusiasm of youth, but I think Metallica has a LOT better, more mature, more resonant music in the catalogue.   It's the hit, I get it, so hardcore fans might not see it this way, but both "Enter Sandman" and "Nothing Else Matters" are better than anything on MOP. 

FOR ME.  I get that others might disagree.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Zantera on May 21, 2021, 08:28:29 AM
I think that's just a personal preference where you stand on Thrash Metal vs Heavy Metal (which is more what Black Album falls under).

Metallica did mature but in terms of an energetic metal album, Master of Puppets is just full of top tier riffs and even if the singing is a bit raw and the production might sound a bit flat by more recent standards, it's the energy and the riffs that really make that album IMO.

I agree that as great of an album Ride the Lightning is, it does have a few songs like Escape that definitely feel weaker than the rest and drag it down just a notch. And Justice For All suffers a bit from the production but it also brings in some more progressive elements and I can see someone preferring it to MoP for those reasons.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Stadler on May 21, 2021, 09:28:13 AM
I think that's just a personal preference where you stand on Thrash Metal vs Heavy Metal (which is more what Black Album falls under).


That's probably pretty accurate.  For me, one who isn't a thrash fan, Metallica is sort of the "Nirvana" of thrash, meaning, they were the ones that brought it to the mainstream, but they may not have been the purest version of it (as Soundgarden, Mudhoney, and Mother Love Bone were to grunge).   Of all the "thrash" bands, I like Metallica best, and only really Megadeth comes close, and it should surprise no one that my favorite song is "A Tout Le Monde", and "Cryptic Writings" is my favorite album.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: pg1067 on May 21, 2021, 09:46:36 AM
Not sure but I know that MOP as an album is a 10/10. I dunno If I could fault it.

I can understand people preferring Ride The Lightning but Escape isn't the best and Ktulu isn't as good as Orion.


I rank Ktulu miles ahead of Orion, and Escape is at least better than Leper Messiah.

As far as AJFA, it's a top-heavy album.  Blackened, Shortest Straw and Dyer's Eve are head and shoulders above the rest of the album.  The heavy part of One is great, but the beginning is a slog.  The rest is fine but not good enough to overcome the bad mix.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: KevShmev on May 21, 2021, 03:23:21 PM
Slog is a perfect word to describe Suicide and Redemption. I tried listening to that again recently, and it felt like hard work to get through all of it. The only part remotely interesting was the melodic part when it slows down in the middle, and even that sounds like them trying to mimic the middle part of Orion.

Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: 425 on May 21, 2021, 03:28:00 PM
Not sure but I know that MOP as an album is a 10/10. I dunno If I could fault it.


I just don't see that.  I listened to it in it's entirety yesterday and it was "meh". Just the vocals (the sound, not the quality) bring it off a 10.

I have a really hard time with how they recorded Hetfield's voice in the 80s, especially on Puppets and Justice. It's like they layered it so many times that it sounds like he's singing in a really echo-y room. That's big part of the reason I prefer live versions for all of those songs, where it actually sounds like a human being is doing the vocals.

The Black Album was a huge improvement in production, and a big part of it is that they actually trust James's voice to be what it is.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Kotowboy on May 22, 2021, 06:55:03 AM
I really enjoy the re-recorded Orion that's on the Thru The Never soundtrack.

I'd love if this year - for the 35th - they re-recorded the entire album at HQ and put it out with the next studio album as part of their 40th anniversary celebrations.

They could do one song a day for like a week. Do 3 or 5 takes and put the best one on the CD. Id love to hear that whole album with the sonics of Hardwired to Self Destruct

or even Disc 1 of Garage Inc. Which is just super crunchy and thick and still has clarity. HTSD is the closest they've come to that production since.

Plus METALLICA is 30 this year so. I'm really hoping for a lot of new Metallica stuff this year. But knowing them it'll be next year and we'll get no 40th goodies at all.



Although the band has posted a lot of pics on Insta from HQ so i'm optimistic for a new album. Even if it's December 31st I don't care.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on May 22, 2021, 08:58:15 AM
Plus METALLICA is 30 this year so. I'm really hoping for a lot of new Metallica stuff this year. But knowing them it'll be next year and we'll get no 40th goodies at all.

Metallica is actually 40 this year. Fuck I’m getting old.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Adami on May 22, 2021, 10:07:39 AM
Plus METALLICA is 30 this year so. I'm really hoping for a lot of new Metallica stuff this year. But knowing them it'll be next year and we'll get no 40th goodies at all.

Metallica is actually 40 this year. Fuck I’m getting old.

I think he meant the black album.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on May 22, 2021, 10:38:30 AM
Plus METALLICA is 30 this year so. I'm really hoping for a lot of new Metallica stuff this year. But knowing them it'll be next year and we'll get no 40th goodies at all.

Metallica is actually 40 this year. Fuck I’m getting old.

I think he meant the black album.

You know I’m so used to it being called The Black Album that I didn’t even think about it being called by actual title lol.
Title: Re: How many songs from Master of Puppets are in your Metallica top 10?
Post by: Kotowboy on May 23, 2021, 07:22:09 AM
Yes I called it METALLICA in capitals to make it more obvious.

Metallica the band are 40 this year and Metallica the album is 30 this year. Load is also 25 this year.  Reload is 25 next year.