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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: pg1067 on February 16, 2021, 11:25:45 AM
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Is there really no thread for this band? I looked and couldn't find one, so here I am.
I first heard Triumph via a couple videos in the early days of MTV. I know World of Fantasy was one, and I'm pretty sure there was another, but I'm not sure. Initially, I didn't like them, but they pretty quickly grew into one of my favorite bands. Allied Forced through Thunder Seven are a big part of what I consider to be the best period in rock/metal history (roughly, 1980-85).
The band was formed in the Toronto, Ontario, Canada area in the early/mid-70s as a four-piece blues band, featuring drummer/vocalist Gil Moore and bassist Mike Levine. After recording a single, the other two members left, and guitarist/vocalist Rik Emmett joined. Emmett added both his soaring voice and progressive and classical influences.
Triumph/Rock and Roll Machine - If I understand things correctly, they initially released two albums only in Canada (Triumph and Rock 'n' Roll Machine), and those two albums were combined (under the latter album's name) for an international version. They had some success with a cover of Joe Walsh's Rocky Mountain Way, but the standout tracks are Blinding Light Show/Moonchild and Rock and Roll Machine (they apparently couldn't decide if they wanted to use "and" or "'n'", so both appear depending on what you're looking at. Blinding Light Show, sung by Emmett, has some prog elements, some blistering metal riffs, and an acoustic guitar solo by Rik Emmett. R&R Machine is an up tempo rock/metal song, sung by Moore, and which features an electric guitar solo (without accompaniment) by Emmett. R&R Machine became a concert staple for the band.
Just a Game - They followed those with 1979's Just a Game, which features hit singles (relatively speaking) Lay It on the Line and Hold On (both sung by Emmett). By this time, the band's Janus-like nature was clearly in place. Moore sang the more bluesy numbers with traditional rock & roll party lyrics, while Emmett handled the more progressive numbers, with lyrics that were often focused on hope and other uplifting topics. The band also regularly included a solo acoustic guitar piece by Emmett. Outside of the two singles, Just a Game is a bit of a step down from the international version of R&R Machine.
Progressions of Power - In all these years, I've never gotten around to buying 1980's Progressions of Power. The single, I Live for the Weekend, had some chart success, but none of the songs from this album are well known.
Allied Forces - 1981's Allied Forces was a breakthrough for the band. The album begins with an up-tempo, bluesy (but not too much) rocker called Fool for Your Love, sung by Moore. It was followed by the well known Magic Power, sung by Emmett. An "instrumental" called Air Raid followed, but it's really just some sound effects that serve as the lead-in to the album's title track, a high-speed rocker based on an ascending riff in E minor, and sung by Moore. Side 1 closes with another up-tempo blues-based rocker -- but this time sung by Emmett -- called Hot Time (In This City Tonight). Hot Time will peel the paint off your walls. Side 2 opens with what is probably the band's best known song, Fight the Good Fight, sung by Emmett and performed on a double-neck Gibson SG 6/12 string guitar (the same guitar famously used by Jimmy Page and Alex Lifeson). Moore and Emmett trade lead vocals on the next song, Ordinary Man. A classical guitar piece, Petite Etude, and a straight-ahead rocker called Say Goodbye (sung by Emmett) close out the album. Allied Forces is killer from beginning to end, with not a single note missed.
Never Surrender - Next up was 1982's Never Surrender, which kept the Allied Forces style ball rolling. The album opens with a semi-political track sung by Moore called Too Much Thinking. This track features some blistering guitar by Emmett that makes heavy use of the Crybaby Wah pedal. The album's best known single, World of Fantasy (featuring vocals by Emmett). The song is very much a successor to Fight the Good Fight with low-key verses and a high energy chorus. This album's acoustic piece, A Minor Prelude, follows and leads into the album's most metal track, All the Way, sung by Emmett. Side 1 closes with a bluesy lament about a soldier's life called Battle Cry. Side 2 is a sort of concept piece, but it's not titled. The side opens with Overture (Processional), which begins with a stage manger giving directions as if a play is beginning. We then get a short instrumental full of grand, ascending riffs. The album's title track, sung by Emmett, follows. It is an epic number with lyrics about keeping your dreams alive. Next up is a Gil Moore signature blues rocker called When the Lights Go Down. The third of the main songs is Writing on the Wall, sung by Emmett, and featuring his signature positive outlook lyrics. A bluesy instrumental called Epilogue (Resolution) closes out the album.
Thunder Seven - After the typical (for the time) intense touring, the band took a year off and came back with the very polished Thunder Seven. Side 1 features the album's two singles, Gil Moore's Spellbound and Rik Emmett's Follow Your Heart. The other two songs, both featuring vocals by Emmett, are the contemplative Rock Out Roll On and the high energy blues rocker Cool Down. As with Never Surrender, side two was loosely conceptual. Time Goes By is one of my favorite Triumph songs of all time. It's more of an Emmett song, but perfectly blends both Emmett's and Moore's vocals in a way that the band had never done before that point. The acoustic Midsummer's Daydream follow, along with a someone bizarre 91 second piece called Time Canon (one "n"). Time Canon features nothing but massively layered vocals (presumably by all three band members) focused on time and its endless march. Killing Time is a bit of a bluesy number that, like Time Goes By, features well-blended and traded-off vocals by Emmett and Moore. The excellence continues with the Emmett number Stranger in a Strange land, and the album closes with a bluesy instrumental called Little Boy Blues.
Stages - In 1985, Triumph released a live album called Stages. I haven't listened to it in forever, but I remember it not being great because the live sound of the 3-piece band seemed very thin, which I thought was odd for a band that was well-known for its live performances.
The Sport of Kings - The wheels started to fall off the Triumph bus with 1986's The Sport of Kings. In a word, the album is quite wimpy, but the album is not without high points. According to Wikipedia, while Mike Levine is credited with keyboards (he had always been the band's accent keyboard player), the band actually brought in multiple outside keyboard players. The album also heavily features outside writers. The high points of the album are the Emmett-sung numbers Somebody's Out There, Take a Stand and Play with the Fire (along with Emmett's acoustic piece, a Spanish guitar bonanza called Embrujo). Somebody's Out There and Tears in the Rain were the album's singles, and Play with the Fire is a very metal, Spanish number.
The Sport of Kings is the only Triumph show I got to see, and they brought a backing musician for the first time (guitarist/keyboardist Rick Santers). This actually filled out their live sound, and this is one of my most memorable concerts.
Surveillance - The band returned with Emmett's last album, 1987's Surveillance. The cover art evoked Never Surrender, and the music seemed to be a conscious effort to return the form of that album. Several guest musicians (mostly backing vocalists) appear, and most notably, Steve Morse, who contributed a solo on what is probably the album's best song, Headed for Nowhere," and some acoustic work on All the King's Horses. Unfortunately, while Surveillance is more of a rocker than its predecessor, the tensions that would lead to Emmett's departure from the band were evident, and it wasn't a particularly memorable album.
Following the tour for Surveillance, Emmett left the band. They released one album in 1992 with someone I've never heard of otherwise. I've never heard it because, for me, Triumph without Rik Emmett isn't Triumph.
Emmett has had a moderate solo career. Moore owns Canada's biggest recording studio, Metalworks Studios, outside Toronto. I have no idea what Mike Levine has been doing. The band re-formed for some festival appearances in 2008 and a "superfan" performance at Metalworks Studios. There has been low-level buzz about a reunion, but it doesn't seem likely. Banger Films is supposedly going to release a documentary about the band sometime in 2021.
What are your thoughts about this band?
***Edited to add album title headers***
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That's a big assed OP - I'll have to read (and respond to) later. But yeah, big fan here... naturally.
Edge of Excess is actually a pretty good album.
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I'm a fan, though I rarely listen to them these days.
They've got some of the best melodic rock anthems ever created and their concerts were quite the spectacle. The only other band I've seen use as much pyro on tour is Kiss
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I saw them on the Thunder 7 & The Sport of Kings tour. Both Great show. I loved the one long song per album.
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That's a big assed OP
I didn't initially intend it that way, but then it just flowed....
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probably the most fun I ever had in a cover band was doing "Magic Power" a couple of years ago. Such a great song.
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"Lay it on the Line" was on a K-Tel compilation I had way back when. I always loved that song, but never really followed up on the band for some reason.
Note that Moore and Levine guested on one track from Rik Emmet's RESolution9 album.
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Love the band. Wore out 2 vinyls of Allied Forces before replacing them with a CD. I may have spun them more than any band during a period in the early 80s.
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Only really familiar with their hits, which are all great. Back in my teen years during the 80’s I knew a guy who was the biggest Triumph fan and worshipped Rik Emmett.
Good thread.
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Love me some Triumph. I don't listen to them that much anymore, but Just a Game, Allied Forces, Never Surrender and Thunder Seven all got a lot of play in my CD player back in the day. Progressions of Power was the only average album in that 1979-1984 run, but even then it still had I Live for the Weekend and Rik Emmett's bad ass acoustic solo tune Fingertalkin'.
Favorite 10 tunes would have to be:
1 Ordinary Man (by a wide margin)
2 Just a Game
3 A World of Fantasy
4 Fight the Good Fight
5 Killing Time
6 Never Surrender
7 Magic Power
8 Time Goes By
9 Hold On
10 Little Boy Blues
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Big fan but I found some of their studio albums to be slightly inconsistent. On a lot of their material it seems like they want to let loose a bit more. Their best of “Classics” is really one the greatest hits albums IMO. That is definitely the starting place for someone to get into the band.
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Big fan but I found some of their studio albums to be slightly inconsistent. On a lot of their material it seems like they want to let loose a bit more. Their best of “Classics” is really one the greatest hits albums IMO. That is definitely the starting place for someone to get into the band.
Even though it is missing Ordinary Man, my favorite, I agree that the classics greatest hits is a great album for the casual fan. You pretty much get all of the "hits," and they are a band where all of their most well known songs really are among their best songs.
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Time Goes By is one of my favorites Kev!
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once again Kirks Nose hair is how I feel also
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Love Triumph. Just listened to Thunder Seven the other day. I got to see them on TS tour through Surveillance tour. Around the same time I really dug Night Ranger also, along with my all time Fav, Rush(of course)
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The only Triumph albums I have are Allied Forces and Thunder Seven, which I bought on vinyl back in the 80s. I really like both albums. Not sure why I never bought anything else by them. I still hear Triumph on the radio once in a while.
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My first Triumph album was Stages, great sounding live album.
I found their studio albums to be a little patchy, but Thunder Seven is amazing, bought an original vinyl pressing last year and it is one of the best sounding records in my collection.
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Love Triumph! Easily in my top 10 favorite bands of all time. :coolio
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I love Magic Power and Hold On, and a few other of their hits are pretty good, but I've never felt compelled to check them out any deeper than their Greatest Hits package.
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Favorite 10 tunes would have to be:
1 Ordinary Man (by a wide margin)
2 Just a Game
3 A World of Fantasy
4 Fight the Good Fight
5 Killing Time
6 Never Surrender
7 Magic Power
8 Time Goes By
9 Hold On
10 Little Boy Blues
Solid list. I don't know about the order, but I'd go with:
Blinding Light Show/Moonchild
Lay It on the Line
Magic Power
Fight the Good Fight
Ordinary Man
All the Way
Never Surrender
Time Goes By
Killing Time
Play with the Fire
HM: Rock and Roll Machine, Hold On, Allied Forces, Hot Time (In This City Tonight), Too Much Thinking, A World of Fantasy, Follow Your Heart, Stranger in a Strange Land, Somebody's Out There, Never Say Never and Headed for Nowhere
Big fan but I found some of their studio albums to be slightly inconsistent. On a lot of their material it seems like they want to let loose a bit more. Their best of “Classics” is really one the greatest hits albums IMO. That is definitely the starting place for someone to get into the band.
Not surprisingly, I've never looked at Classics but am now looking at the track list. Having both Tears in the Rain and Somebody's Out There and nothing from the then most recent album, Surveillance, is a little hard to understand -- especially with such a short run time.
As far as inconsistent studio work, I don't disagree but for a different reason. You really almost had two different bands, which is a result of Emmett and Moore being the primary songwriters and co-vocalists. Multiple vocalists obviously worked for the Beatles (although I know lots of folks who generally didn't like the John Lennon material) and KISS, but it hasn't worked for too many other bands that I can think of. A lot of Gil Moore's bluesy bar band material stood in stark contrast to the much more polished and complex Rik Emmett material. It's not an accident that pretty much everything on my list and Kev's list is Emmett material.
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TRIUMPH!!!!!
Huge fan, right along all the other fogie rockers here. Saw them twice on Sport of Kings and Surveillance, as well as seeing Rik twice on his first and last solo shows.
I'll make a top ten song list later.
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Love the Triumph!
I went to a concert where they performed The Blinding Light Show and promptly wet my pants! The Never Surrender tour was the loudest concert I've ever been to. They were sponsored by Converse if I remember correctly.
My only criticism is that they didn't play long enough in concert. They would play like a 90 minute show. Rik's solo shows were the same about 12 songs. They took the saying "always leave them wanting more" to the max!
Also, it's it's not fair to label Rik's solo career as moderate. He is far more productive in his solo career than he ever was with Triumph but I am talking about content.
Don't forget - JLB sang on RES9 too - Which I still have not heard since I lost the CD! :facepalm:
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Don't forget - JLB sang on RES9 too - Which I still have not heard since I lost the CD! :facepalm:
eh, it's OK, but nothing I feel like I need to hear again.
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I'm really only a fan of Triumph's classic Era. I have Just A Game, Allied Forces, Never Surrender , and the King Biscuit '81 show.
I saw Triumph once on 2/4/85 in Providence. It was the night they filmed the Follow Your Heart video. The filming of the video was really cool to see. It actually happened after the concert. There was an intermission, and I remember some guy coming out, probably the director, and give the crowd instructions. I remember there was a line of about 50 girls who walked in and stood in front of the people in the front row. They played the song over the PA and the band basically lip synched it. Their instruments were not plugged in, but we could hear the drums acoustically. They did like 3 run throughs and the crowd was instructed to go crazy while the band filmed their parts. At one point, Rik was standing near the front of the stage, and one of the pyros went off right in his face. I can't remember if they stopped filming at that point.
My Triumph Top 10 would be (in no order)..
Allied Forces
Lay It On The Line
Ordinary Man
Hold On
Fight The Good Fight
Magic Power
All The Way
Writing On The Wall
Say Goodbye
Just A Game
I saw Rik Emmett at the Campus Club in Providence in 1991. It was a very small place. Trixter opened. It was the local radio station's Earth Day show, and was supposed to be outside at some park, except it was raining and they moved to The Campus Club. I remember standing in the rain for a while to get in.
I've posted my Rik Emmett pics before, so now I have another excuse to do it again! ;D
One of my best friends from high school got Rik to sing at his wedding. Let me explain. In the mid to late 90's, through Rik's website, Rik was offering to do Grass Roots shows. Basically anyone, should they meet Rik's demands, could fly Rik in for a Grass Roots show. My friend did this, and booked Rik at Berklee. My wife and I went and it was Rik, in a small room, with about 50 other dudes or so. Rik stood on stage and had a recorder that had the bass and drum tracks, and he would play to that, either acoustically or electric. He would tell Triumph stories between songs. It was pretty cool. Rik told my friend that the room at Berklee had the best acoustics he'd ever heard. My friend had him down a couple of times, and Rik would record his Live At Berklee there. I didn't go, but if you went to the show, you got your name on the CD.
(https://i.imgur.com/UzpBUsA.jpg)
My friend Dan is actually the second person listed and his wife (at the time)is listed third.
Anyway, he hit it off with Rik so when he got married in 1999, he arranged to have Rik fly down to Boston and sing his wife's favorite song. I don't remember what it was.
Before he got into his limo to fly back to Canada, I got to take a couple of pics. One with my friend and the other with The Lovely Mrs TAC.
(https://i.imgur.com/fXGcV02.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6kXquQh.jpg)
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Well, I was gonna tell my cool 'Rik Emmet from the front row on his first solo tour' story, but after Tim's post, fuck that lol.
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I knew that pic from Tim was coming. :lol (not that I wouldn't do the same thing)
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I'm really only a fan of Triumph's classic Era. I have Just A Game, Allied Forces, Never Surrender , and the King Biscuit '81 show.
I saw Triumph once on 2/4/85 in Providence. It was the night they filmed the Follow Your Heart video. The filming of the video was really cool to see. It actually happened after the concert. There was an intermission, and I remember some guy coming out, probably the director, and give the crowd instructions. I remember there was a line of about 50 girls who walked in and stood in front of the people in the front row. They played the song over the PA and the band basically lip synched it. Their instruments were not plugged in, but we could hear the drums acoustically. They did like 3 run throughs and the crowd was instructed to go crazy while the band filmed their parts. At one point, Rik was standing near the front of the stage, and one of the pyros went off right in his face. I can't remember if they stopped filming at that point.
My Triumph Top 10 would be (in no order)..
Allied Forces
Lay It On The Line
Ordinary Man
Hold On
Fight The Good Fight
Magic Power
All The Way
Writing On The Wall
Say Goodbye
Just A Game
I saw Rik Emmett at the Campus Club in Providence in 1991. It was a very small place. Trixter opened. It was the local radio station's Earth Day show, and was supposed to be outside at some park, except it was raining and they moved to The Campus Club. I remember standing in the rain for a while to get in.
I've posted my Rik Emmett pics before, so now I have another excuse to do it again! ;D
One of my best friends from high school got Rik to sing at his wedding. Let me explain. In the mid to late 90's, through Rik's website, Rik was offering to do Grass Roots shows. Basically anyone, should they meet Rik's demands, could fly Rik in for a Grass Roots show. My friend did this, and booked Rik at Berklee. My wife and I went and it was Rik, in a small room, with about 50 other dudes or so. Rik stood on stage and had a recorder that had the bass and drum tracks, and he would play to that, either acoustically or electric. He would tell Triumph stories between songs. It was pretty cool. Rik told my friend that the room at Berklee had the best acoustics he'd ever heard. My friend had him down a couple of times, and Rik would record his Live At Berklee there. I didn't go, but if you went to the show, you got your name on the CD.
(https://i.imgur.com/UzpBUsA.jpg)
My friend Dan is actually the second person listed and his wife (at the time)is listed third.
Anyway, he hit it off with Rik so when he got married in 1999, he arranged to have Rik fly down to Boston and sing his wife's favorite song. I don't remember what it was.
Before he got into his limo to fly back to Canada, I got to take a couple of pics. One with my friend and the other with The Lovely Mrs TAC.
(https://i.imgur.com/fXGcV02.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6kXquQh.jpg)
:tup :tup :tup :tup :tup
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This thread is now over but I generally more of a fan of Rik's writing in the band because it's usually more inspirational. Haven't really explored his solo work much.
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It's funny that if you watch any of their "staged" music videos (not live ones) Rik is the master of not playing his guitar. Even though it's fake, he's doing the whole vocal ad-libs the entire time, but he's not even "playing" his guitar unless it's a solo or something.
I'd say 50% of the time his guitar is just hanging there and he's waving his hands around.
Here's a cool video of Rik and Steve Morse doing Midsummer's Daydream back in the day when music TV was about the music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh1JcI3lDxE
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Ummm...???
Haven't really explored his solo work much.
I bought his debut solo album, Absolutely, back in 1990. I recall liking it, but the last time I listed to it (which was a while ago), I didn't find it particularly appealing. Looking at the track list, none of the songs come to mind. I recall buying the 1992 follow up, Ipso Facto, but I no longer own it, so maybe I didn't. I saw Rik at a small club once in early 1991 and again in late 1992. He played a healthy amount of Triumph, and I recall that they were really good shows. Looks like he's put out a half dozen or so albums since then, but Triumph was one of those bands where you really needed all three elements (or at least Rik and Gil).
It's funny that if you watch any of their "staged" music videos (not live ones) Rik is the master of not playing his guitar. Even though it's fake, he's doing the whole vocal ad-libs the entire time, but he's not even "playing" his guitar unless it's a solo or something.
I'd say 50% of the time his guitar is just hanging there and he's waving his hands around.
Here's a cool video of Rik and Steve Morse doing Midsummer's Daydream back in the day when music TV was about the music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh1JcI3lDxE
I'll have to look up some of the videos because I don't remember that, but it sounds about right -- especially for early 80s videos. That in-studio thing was cool. Also a little odd that they spent camera time tuning, rather than doing that beforehand. Was that Alan Hunter with them?
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Ummm...???
Haven't really explored his solo work much.
I bought his debut solo album, Absolutely, back in 1990. I recall liking it, but the last time I listed to it (which was a while ago), I didn't find it particularly appealing. Looking at the track list, none of the songs come to mind. I recall buying the 1992 follow up, Ipso Facto, but I no longer own it, so maybe I didn't. I saw Rik at a small club once in early 1991 and again in late 1992. He played a healthy amount of Triumph, and I recall that they were really good shows. Looks like he's put out a half dozen or so albums since then, but Triumph was one of those bands where you really needed all three elements (or at least Rik and Gil).
Where have you been? Rik has put out 21 albums since leaving Triumph. Look up Trifecta and you will find some wonderful guitars on that one. No - Rik did not need the other two and in fact it's just the opposite - the other 2 needed Rik. Ipso Facto is a fantastic album but I think that's when Rik satisfied his contract with that label (can't remember which one) and then he was free to do his own thing. This was when the internet was maturing and he could make music without signing to a label.
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Where have you been? Rik has put out 21 albums since leaving Triumph.
Where have I been? Lots of places. You?
My reference to "a half dozen or so albums since then" (i.e., since Ipso Facto) is based on his solo albums discography on his Wikipedia page, which lists 8 solo albums subsequent to Ipso Facto (one of which appears to be an album of acoustic covers of Triumph songs). I would say 8 is consistent with "a half dozen or so." In any event, excuse me for not listing everything he's been involved with.
No - Rik did not need the other two
When Absolutely and Ipso Facto didn't resonate with me, I stopped listening, so for me, yeah, he did. And, while I've not spent significant time on anything he's done since then, none of the bits and pieces I've heard since then have changed my mind about that.
and in fact it's just the opposite - the other 2 needed Rik.
Musically, I don't disagree, but I'd suspect that, as the owner of MetalWorks, Gil has been the most successful former member of Triumph. No idea what Levine has been up to over the last 30 years (other than this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDP9KEBhWpI ).
Ipso Facto is a fantastic album
Glad you like it.
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To set the record straight - Triumph is still a band or more accurately a partnership to wit Gil and Mike are still in it. Therefore, Gil does not own Metalworks, Triumph does unless Gil bought out Mike's share. Rik also used to be an owner until he left Triumph and I could go into ugly details on how he was treated after he left but it's not worth getting into.
I would recommend you all go to Rik's website to get accurate information as the Wiki is outdated.
After the trio settled their differences years ago Rik has been using Metalworks to master his recorded music.
I find it unnecessary to tag who has been more successful or not but my point is that musically, Rik has been incredibly prolific - still is.
BTW - last I heard is that Mike is living in Jamaica doing the big chillax. :hat
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To set the record straight - Triumph is still a band or more accurately a partnership to wit Gil and Mike are still in it. Therefore, Gil does not own Metalworks, Triumph does unless Gil bought out Mike's share. Rik also used to be an owner until he left Triumph and I could go into ugly details on how he was treated after he left but it's not worth getting into.
If we're going to nit pick details, MetalWorks Studios is owned by a corporation called MetalWorks Recording Studios, Inc. The same corporation also owns MetalWorks Productions (live events) and MetalWorks Institute (a music and arts school somewhat akin to Berklee College of Music). Who owns the shares of MetalWorks Recording Studios, Inc.? I don't know since it's not a matter of public record, but everything I've ever read talks about MetalWorks having been established and owned and still being owned by Gil, not by the "Triumph" partnership or by either Emmett or Levine. See, e.g., https://musiccanada.com/news/gil-moore-presented-with-music-canadas-artist-advocate-award/ ("Music Canada is honoured to present Gil Moore, founding member of the multi-Platinum-certified band Triumph, and owner of the renowned Metalworks Studios in Mississauga, Ontario, as the recipient of the 2019 Artist Advocate Award."). If you've got access to corporate records that say otherwise, I'd be interested to see that.
As far as Triumph related business entities, which were unlikely to have been partnerships except in the earliest days, I have no idea which of the three of them still has/have ownership interests.
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The only music I've heard of Rik's outside of Triumph is his last album under the "Rik Emmett and Resolution 9" and it's...a pretty decent AOR collection of tunes, but it didn't make me want to go out and find more.
What's the deal on this Ipso Facto thing you guys are talking about?
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The only music I've heard of Rik's outside of Triumph is his last album under the "Rik Emmett and Resolution 9" and it's...a pretty decent AOR collection of tunes, but it didn't make me want to go out and find more.
What's the deal on this Ipso Facto thing you guys are talking about?
Not sure what you mean but I will give it a go. If memory serves me correctly, Rik signed a 2 album deal with a record label after he left Triumph. Ipso Facto was the second album of this deal satisfying the contract. After this album, Rik was free to create any type of album he wanted but his deal with the label directed him to write a certain type of genre. In fact, I think the Japanese release had an extra heavier song to satisfy the Japanese market. I think the song was "Do Me Good" not included on the American release.
Ipso Facto is awesome and even has a song called "Out of the Blue" - sound familiar? :)
If you're a fan of guitar then I implore you to check out his solo work. It's far better than anything he did with Triumph and I love Triumph! Fond memories!
As far as Metalworks - a little history. Back around Thunder Seven, the band announced that the band Triumph would be credited with the writing of the songs. "Hold On" would still be credited to Rik as well as anything before but anything from Thunder Seven on they all shared writing credits even on "A MidSummer's Day Dream".
At the same time, they were building a studio - Metalworks. Yes, Rik was 1/3 owner of the studio but when he left he had to give it up along with a bunch of other stuff (that's the ugly part). Who knows, Gil may own Metalworks outright or they may have sold it to a bigger corporation but back in the day, it was a Triumph venture.
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I blew out the rear passenger side speaker in my 1977 Chevy Monza from listening to Rock and Roll Machine (the song) too loud.
I'm a fan!
Edit: Oh, also, being raised on classical music, I always dug their rendition of Holst's Mars in the instrumental The City.
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No idea what Levine has been up to over the last 30 years (other than this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDP9KEBhWpI ).
By the way, in case anyone overlooked this, it's a clip of Mike Levine as a contestant on Wheel of Fortune sometime in the mid-90s. It's interesting to watch.
I blew out the rear passenger side speaker in my 1977 Chevy Monza from listening to Rock and Roll Machine (the song) too loud.
I'm a fan!
Edit: Oh, also, being raised on classical music, I always dug their rendition of Holst's Mars in the instrumental The City.
What album is that on?
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Holst's second album.. ;D
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Bruh... :-P
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I'll have to look up some of the videos because I don't remember that, but it sounds about right -- especially for early 80s videos. That in-studio thing was cool. Also a little odd that they spent camera time tuning, rather than doing that beforehand. Was that Alan Hunter with them?
If memory serves me correctly, the host is Steve Anthony (your blond VJ pal) on Much Music. I also remember Erica Ehm (yummy), Christopher Ward, Michael Williams, and John "JD" Roberts (who's an anchor on CNN now, but he used to be a mulleted DJ).
For sure it's interesting that they spent time tuning but that was part of the greatness of 80s music television. They had time and took the time with musicians and it really felt like "music television"... but now not so much.
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I blew out the rear passenger side speaker in my 1977 Chevy Monza from listening to Rock and Roll Machine (the song) too loud.
I'm a fan!
Edit: Oh, also, being raised on classical music, I always dug their rendition of Holst's Mars in the instrumental The City.
What album is that on?
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Rock and Roll Machine
1. "Takes Time"
2. "Bringing It On Home"
3. "Little Texas Shaker"
4. "New York City Streets, Pt. 1"
5. "New York City Streets, Pt. 2"
6. "The City: War March / El Duende Agonizante / Minstrel's Lament" Emmett
7. "Rocky Mountain Way"
8. "Rock & Roll Machine"
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I blew out the rear passenger side speaker in my 1977 Chevy Monza from listening to Rock and Roll Machine (the song) too loud.
I'm a fan!
Edit: Oh, also, being raised on classical music, I always dug their rendition of Holst's Mars in the instrumental The City.
Bitchin’ ride
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It's funny that if you watch any of their "staged" music videos (not live ones) Rik is the master of not playing his guitar. Even though it's fake, he's doing the whole vocal ad-libs the entire time, but he's not even "playing" his guitar unless it's a solo or something.
I'd say 50% of the time his guitar is just hanging there and he's waving his hands around.
Here's a cool video of Rik and Steve Morse doing Midsummer's Daydream back in the day when music TV was about the music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh1JcI3lDxE
That is pure gold. Two of my favorite musicians together.
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It's funny that if you watch any of their "staged" music videos (not live ones) Rik is the master of not playing his guitar. Even though it's fake, he's doing the whole vocal ad-libs the entire time, but he's not even "playing" his guitar unless it's a solo or something.
I'd say 50% of the time his guitar is just hanging there and he's waving his hands around.
Here's a cool video of Rik and Steve Morse doing Midsummer's Daydream back in the day when music TV was about the music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh1JcI3lDxE
That is pure gold. Two of my favorite musicians together.
Steve Morse was also a guest musician on the Surveillance album. Rik and Steve traded solos on the song Headed for Nowhere. Quite tasty stuff! :metal
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I blew out the rear passenger side speaker in my 1977 Chevy Monza from listening to Rock and Roll Machine (the song) too loud.
I'm a fan!
Edit: Oh, also, being raised on classical music, I always dug their rendition of Holst's Mars in the instrumental The City.
What album is that on?
Rock and Roll Machine
1. "Takes Time"
2. "Bringing It On Home"
3. "Little Texas Shaker"
4. "New York City Streets, Pt. 1"
5. "New York City Streets, Pt. 2"
6. "The City: War March / El Duende Agonizante / Minstrel's Lament" Emmett
7. "Rocky Mountain Way"
8. "Rock & Roll Machine"
Gotcha. That's the original track list. I have the re-release, which is sort of a hybrid of the self-titled and the original R&R Machine:
"The album was originally released only in Canada, but when the band signed an international deal with RCA Records in 1977, the international edition of the album was re-sequenced to include some of the tracks from their self-titled Triumph (1976) album. The album was released for a second time in Canada, with a different cover than the original one or the international one, using the re-sequenced tracking from the international version. The RCA and MCA re-sequenced track listing is as follows:
Side one
"Takes Time" (Emmett, Moore, Levine) – 3:48
"Bringing It On Home" (Emmett, Levine) – 4:35
"Rocky Mountain Way" (Walsh, Vitale, Passarelli, Grace) – 4:04
"Street Fighter" (Emmett, Moore) – 3:30
"Street Fighter (Reprise)" (Emmett, Moore) – 3:02
Side two
"24 Hours a Day" (Emmett) – 4:17
"Blinding Light Show/Moonchild" (Emmett, Brockway, Young) – 8:43
"Rock and Roll Machine" (Moore) – 6:53"
I'll have to check that out because The Planets is great stuff.
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Now that I'm in the Ts on my listening, I'm finally getting around to going thru this thread. I like to call Triumph the 'other' Holy Triumvirate. And in the early 80s, I'd say Triumph was as big as (perhaps bigger than) Rush - I mean, just look at their appearance on Live at the US Festival - they got billing ahead of both Ozzy and Priest.
Re: the OP
- Hold on is God-Tier, but yeah... the rest of the album is fairly ordinary.
- Progressions of Power is a great album. Didn't produce the 'hits' other albums did, but it's got some gems in there (I Can Survive, Nature's Child, Hard Road)
- I always thought Magic Power was their flagship song, not Fight the Good Fight. Though it's kinda tantamount to the argument of whether Tom Sawyer or The Spirit of Radio being Rush's flagship. It really is 1a and 1b - and debatable which is A and which is B. For me, Magic Power is a top-5 song of all time; FtGF has a top-5 solo of all time.
- Stages ... love it. I do remember some production problems with the original CD release (there was this terrible 'clicking' throughout Hold On), but the Remaster is just fine.
- Gotta say, I've never heard "wimpy" used to describe Sport of Kings. The two opener's absolutely slay, the the rest of the album holds up just fine.
- I've always loved the instrumental/interlude tracks, and always wanted (most of) them to be more lengthy
- As I mentioned in my first response, Edge of Excess is actually a pretty good album. It's been a long time since I listened, but iirc, Moore handles most (all?) of the lead vocals, and it worked just fine. It doesn't have any big highs that pretty much every Emmett-era album had, but it is very consistent.
Other random thoughts
- Gil Moore was a beast on the skins, and has some of the best fills/rolls in rock (Fight the Good Fight just rolled as I typed this :hefdaddy)
- Sadly, I never saw them on tour, but did see Rik Emmett a couple years back when he released that Res9 album (which is a really nice album)
- All of their Remasters are done really well, and enhance the awesomeness of the original recordings
- My real intro to them beyond the regular hits, was thru the Classics release (man, there were a lot of nice releases under that banner - Queen and Styx also come to mind)
- A Night of Triumph DVD (filmed in '87 I think, in Halifax), is a gem - especially the crowd shots
- Sweden Rock Festival '08 is a really great reunion show
- Live at the US Festival is the grand-daddy of them though. Goddamn what a performance.
- I listened to Absolutely (Emmett's solo release in '90) a ton. Totally different from Triumph, but absolutely magnificent singing and solo'g on that album.
- I very much dislike their version of Rocky Mountain Way - primarily because Canadian radio NEVER plays the original; they always default to the Triumph version so it ticks the box on their Canadian content requirements. Seriously, I'd NEVER heard the Walsh version played on Canadian radio. And I prefer Walsh's vox over Moore's.
Top 10 (yeah, a couple of cheese-choices in here, I know)
1a. Magic Power
1b. Fight the Good Fight
3. Ordinary Man
4. Hold On
5. Headed For Nowhere
6. Blinding Light Show / Moonchild
7. Follow Your Heart
8. Midsummer's Daydream
9. Time Goes By
10. Somebody's Out There
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Midsummer's Daydream is awesome, but I have a hard time ranking those kinds of instrumentalist solo tunes alongside the full band tunes.
My impression was always that Lay it on the Line was as much of a staple as Magic Power or Fight the Good Fight, and I think you could make a strong argument for any of the three being their flagship song. What song gets played the most of course varies on what station where you live plays; I just remember Lay It on the Line getting played as much as the others back in the day when I listened to our local classic rock station.
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I agree that Edge of Excess is a decent album and Troublemaker is :metal
Also, Triumph with Phil X (I think it was him) did a pretty decent version of Love Hurts that made it on to one of their greatest hits album (you can find it on YouTube). But there was another song that I am having trouble finding (and I don't remember the name) that was the exact same riff of a song called "Addicted" on Rik Emmett's Liberty Manifesto. The song that Triumph did was of slower tempo but it was the exact same rift but I can't find it to save my life.
I too LOVE the US Festival footage and encourage everyone to buy it. It's just Triumph doing a concert in the middle of the afternoon with no pyrotechnics and it is really impressive the show they put on. They were a last minute addition because I think Sammy Hagar had to pull out.
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They were a last minute addition because I think Sammy Hagar had to pull out.
I'd never heard that. Not disputing it, jut something I'd never known/heard.
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This is the story.
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Not sure if anyone ever watched the Styx Behind the Music episode, but Triumph pretty much put the final nail in their coffin. Seems when they were touring Kilroy, and trying to do some proggy artistic performance, one festival appearance had them after Triumph. Triumph of course did what they did best, rock the fucking balls of the crowd. Shaw talks about being terrified to follow that with a staged performance with dialogue, and his worse fears were realized as the crowd fucking hated it. He said Styx of old died on that night.
Because of fucking TRIUMPH!!!
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This is the story.
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That's saying they had to switch slots with Sammy at the Orlando show.
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Right so they could fly out to the show. Not that Sammy canceled out do they got the slot. They already had the slot.
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Not sure if anyone ever watched the Styx Behind the Music episode, but Triumph pretty much put the final nail in their coffin. Seems when they were touring Kilroy, and trying to do some proggy artistic performance, one festival appearance had them after Triumph. Triumph of course did what they did best, rock the fucking balls of the crowd. Shaw talks about being terrified to follow that with a staged performance with dialogue, and his worse fears were realized as the crowd fucking hated it. He said Styx of old died on that night.
Because of fucking TRIUMPH!!!
I would call that a self-inflicted wound. For Styx to attempt that Kilroy spectacle at a festival was a grave mistake. Best to just play a straight set of your hits and some new songs without getting too fancy with the arty stuff, given that the crowd was a mixture of fans rather than just Styx fans.
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And Kev, that's why Dennis DeYoung has to be shipped to Siberia. :lol
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Meanwhile, I just got an email the other day saying that Styx is playing at some carnival (see: same level as state fairs) this summer here in STL. :lol :facepalm:
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:lol
Outside is the new norm unfortunately right now.
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Yeah, cause Styx with clown boy Lawrence Gowan on the keys was playing stadiums before the pandemic. :P
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Meanwhile, I just got an email the other day saying that Styx is playing at some carnival
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Yeah, cause Styx with clown boy Lawrence Gowan on the keys was playing stadiums before the pandemic. :P
You mocking a Canadian treasure? :lol
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- I always thought Magic Power was their flagship song, not Fight the Good Fight. Though it's kinda tantamount to the argument of whether Tom Sawyer or The Spirit of Radio being Rush's flagship. It really is 1a and 1b - and debatable which is A and which is B. For me, Magic Power is a top-5 song of all time; FtGF has a top-5 solo of all time.
Definitely agree about those two songs being 1a and 1b. One of the only "mix tapes" I ever made was a tape of some of my favorite guitar solos, and FTGF was definitely on there. That song illustrates the next point.
- Stages ... love it. I do remember some production problems with the original CD release (there was this terrible 'clicking' throughout Hold On), but the Remaster is just fine.
I only have what I assume is the original CD release, and I'll try to give it a listen this week. The biggest issue for me is that songs like FTGF have a prominent second guitar that fills out the sound during the guitar solo. Before they added a touring guitarist, this was obviously absent from live performances, and that sort of thing has always been obvious to me. By comparison, the lack of a prominent second guitar that disappeared from live performances was one of the things I always appreciated about Rush after the first few albums.
- Gil Moore was a beast on the skins, and has some of the best fills/rolls in rock (Fight the Good Fight just rolled as I typed this :hefdaddy)
As a non-drummer, I always felt like Tama made the best drums because of how GREAT Moore's and Peart's Tama kits sounded. I think John Panozzo was also a Tama guy, and I always thought his sound was excellent. And yeah, Gil's playing, while not on the level of Neil's, was really good.
- A Night of Triumph DVD (filmed in '87 I think, in Halifax), is a gem - especially the crowd shots
Another one I still have on VHS and haven't watched in ages (same for the US Festival show).
Top 10 (yeah, a couple of cheese-choices in here, I know)
1a. Magic Power
1b. Fight the Good Fight
3. Ordinary Man
4. Hold On
5. Headed For Nowhere
6. Blinding Light Show / Moonchild
7. Follow Your Heart
8. Midsummer's Daydream
9. Time Goes By
10. Somebody's Out There
I can't really argue against any of those songs, but the absence of Never Surrender material is a head scratcher.
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Never Surrender is a good album, very consistent... but none of the songs I'd put in the Top 10 (as you can see).
TASTESTM!!!
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Not sure if anyone ever watched the Styx Behind the Music episode, but Triumph pretty much put the final nail in their coffin. Seems when they were touring Kilroy, and trying to do some proggy artistic performance, one festival appearance had them after Triumph. Triumph of course did what they did best, rock the fucking balls of the crowd. Shaw talks about being terrified to follow that with a staged performance with dialogue, and his worse fears were realized as the crowd fucking hated it. He said Styx of old died on that night.
Because of fucking TRIUMPH!!!
I would call that a self-inflicted wound. For Styx to attempt that Kilroy spectacle at a festival was a grave mistake. Best to just play a straight set of your hits and some new songs without getting too fancy with the arty stuff, given that the crowd was a mixture of fans rather than just Styx fans.
Oh totally... To hear Tommy Shaw talk about his fear going on stage was frikkin hilarious. The whole episode is definitely worth a watch, especially for the 'parking lot full of whale vomit' review of Kilroy :lol
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Oh totally... To hear Tommy Shaw talk about his fear going on stage was frikkin hilarious. The whole episode is definitely worth a watch, especially for the 'parking lot full of whale vomit' review of Kilroy :lol
DDY can take the blame for the tour, that is for sure, but Tommy and JY slagging the album itself is hilarious considering they combined wrote more songs for it than DeYoung did. :lol :lol
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Oh totally... To hear Tommy Shaw talk about his fear going on stage was frikkin hilarious. The whole episode is definitely worth a watch, especially for the 'parking lot full of whale vomit' review of Kilroy :lol
DDY can take the blame for the tour, that is for sure, but Tommy and JY slagging the album itself is hilarious considering they combined wrote more songs for it than DeYoung did. :lol :lol
Not to mention that Tommy Shaw and James Young both owe their careers to DDY.
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They do? Seems to me the band made leaps and bounds when Tommy joins. Their combo in songwriting made them skyrocket.
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They do? Seems to me the band made leaps and bounds when Tommy joins. Their combo in songwriting made them skyrocket.
Yeah...Styx was definitely a three-headed monster (or at least a two-headed one).
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They do? Seems to me the band made leaps and bounds when Tommy joins. Their combo in songwriting made them skyrocket.
I'm not here to slag Tommy Shaw, but DDY voiced their biggest hits. I just don't think they hit legendary status without DDY. Maybe Shaw was a big cog but it's like the Brady Belichick question.
Who was more vital and more responsible to Styx's success, and I don't feel like it's any contest. It's DDY.
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DDY definitely gets the most credit for their success, but Tommy was integral as well. He wrote some of their biggest classic rock mainstays (maybe not big chart toppers at the time, but ones that have stood the test of time). Young would have ended up doing oil changes every day if not for Dennis and Tommy. :lol :lol
And while this is just my opinion, since the Styx breakup in '83, Tommy has lapped DDY so many times, it is not even funny. I can count on one hand the number of songs I like that Dennis has written since 1984. Tommy has tons between his solo records, Damn Yankees, Shaw Blades and Styx.
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If John Curulewski hadn’t quit, the entire band would have become a small cult following footnote in rock history.
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Well, Damn Yankees blows. And sure DDY has done shit. I don't think he really cared about being a rock band singer guy.
I did see DDY at (fucking) EPCOT (of all places) a few years ago and he was great. The Tommy Shaw dude he had in his band was fantastic.
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Damn Yankees were really good. I will go down with the ship on that one. :lol :biggrin:
I think DDY does the greatest hits stuff better than Styx this century, largely because Gowan acts like a clown on stage and it's too distracting, but that album Styx released a few years ago was great. I'd love to get another of similar quality.
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I think DDY does the greatest hits stuff better than Styx this century, largely because Gowan acts like a clown on stage and it's too distracting, but that album Styx released a few years ago was great. I'd love to get another of similar quality.
Actually, I remember checking out a new Styx album a few years ago and it was pretty good. Probably the same one you mention.
Damn Yankees were really good. I will go down with the ship on that one. :lol :biggrin:
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That's what should happen to anyone who disparages Power Windows.
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That's what should happen to anyone who disparages Power Windows.
:rollin :rollin :rollin
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Well this spiraled out of control like Tim's take on Power Windows.
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Blame
WildRanger err Kev.
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DDY voiced their biggest hits.
Crystal Ball - Shaw
Come Sail Away - DeYoung
Fooling Yourself - Shaw
Blue Collar Man - Shaw
Sing for the Day - Shaw
Renegade - Shaw
Babe - DeYoung
Best of Times - DeYoung
Too Much Time on My Hands - Shaw
Mr. Roboto - DeYoung
That's a 6:4 ratio in Shaw's favor (I intentionally didn't include Lady since that was before Shaw joined).
The guy who has really reaped the biggest benefit from all this is James Young. That's a guy who has ridden the coattails of others for 45 years without contributing much more than a menacing snarl. Styx without James Young is still Styx, but Styx without either DDY or Tommy Shaw doesn't reach anywhere near the heights that they did.
And while this is just my opinion, since the Styx breakup in '83, Tommy has lapped DDY so many times, it is not even funny. I can count on one hand the number of songs I like that Dennis has written since 1984. Tommy has tons between his solo records, Damn Yankees, Shaw Blades and Styx.
That's kind of a duh. Obviously, DDY missed almost all of what Styx has done since '83. Honestly, the only thing I know that DDY did outside of Styx was the song Desert Moon. DDY is a musical theater guy through and through. I know he dabbled in that area, but I don't think he ever really immersed himself in it, which I think he would have been great at. Honestly, for my tastes, none of the three were worth a damn without each other. Definitely a "the whole is greater than the sum of the parts" sort of thing.
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You're right, of course, but hey...remember when this was The Triumph Thread?!
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It never occurred to me until just now that Pieces of Eight had exactly zero DDY singles.
I wonder if that had something to do with the paradigm shift on Cornerstone?
But yes...we should take this to the proper Styx thread.
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Well, Damn Yankees blows. And sure DDY has done shit. I don't think he really cared about being a rock band singer guy.
I did see DDY at (fucking) EPCOT (of all places) a few years ago and he was great. The Tommy Shaw dude he had in his band was fantastic.
I seen the both - actual Styx with DDY and Styx with Lawrence Gowan and DDY with August Zadra and they were equally good musically, but the Styx stage setup was quite a bit more elaborate. I've heard rumors that Dennis Deyoung wants back in with Styx, and he is right that the fans would love to see a reunion tour.
But Tommy's rationale sounds quite reasonable for why he won't do it: (https://blabbermouth.herokuapp.com/news/dennis-deyoung-i-want-one-last-tour-with-styx/)
Shaw went on to say that he is content to let the past remain in the past, choosing instead to surround himself with positivity as he enters the next part of his career. He continued: "Personality-wise, at this stage in my life, I want to be happy. I want to be around people who love me and that have my best interest at heart, and I don't have to fight with. There's just not enough years left that I would want to risk not having that again."
Tommy is 67 and as a dude who is rapidly approaching 60 I *totally* get this. It's the exact reason why I've stayed at the same job for just short of 21 years. Everything is great for me here and I'll be retiring in less than 10 years if all goes according to plan. Why risk my happiness with a different job at this point in my career? I can see DDY's side of it, though, and I admit I'd love to see them work something out for maybe a quick US reunion tour. I'd pay good money for a seat at one of those shows, that's for sure.
That said, I don't see it happening nor do I really care all that much. Styx's latest album "The Mission" is awesome and from what I understand they are working on new material right now.
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Triumph rocks!!!!!
:metal :metal :metal :metal
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So while going through a couple of bins of pictures for my brother in law's funeral last year, I found a pic from my friend's wedding. So I'm posting this for the first time. Taken sometime during the summer of 1999..
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5/1/99 is the only time I saw Rik Emmett in concert, so not far off!
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I love the picture you have Tim with Rik in a parking lot.
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Yeah, it's such a weird thing, isn't it?
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It's a moment you'll never forget.
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Yup, and everytime a new Triumph or Rik Emmet thread pops up, you guys'll never forget it either! :lol
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How can we not?! It's such a cool moment!
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Speaking of Triumph, anyone know what's up with that movie that the Beyond the Lighted Stage guy was making about Triumph?
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Speaking of Triumph, anyone know what's up with that movie that the Beyond the Lighted Stage guy was making about Triumph?
Currently streaming exclusively through Crave and due for DVD release later this year.
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Speaking of Triumph, anyone know what's up with that movie that the Beyond the Lighted Stage guy was making about Triumph?
Currently streaming exclusively through Crave and due for DVD release later this year.
Damn. Almost makes me want to get my free (whatever free period) trial subscription is.
Almost.
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Never heard of Crave. I'll check it out.
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Yeah, what in the hell is Crave?
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Yeah, what in the hell is Crave?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crave_(streaming_service)
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Yeah, what in the hell is Crave?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crave_(streaming_service)
Thanks for the link.
"Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name."
Not so dumb after all. :P
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Crave is Bell Media's streaming service/platform. Consider it a Canadian equivalent to Paramount+.
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Yeah, what in the hell is Crave?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crave_(streaming_service)
Thanks for the link.
"Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name."
Not so dumb after all. :P
That's weird. I read it all. Wonder why the link didn't work.
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Yeah, what in the hell is Crave?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crave_(streaming_service)
Thanks for the link.
"Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name."
Not so dumb after all. :P
That's weird. I read it all. Wonder why the link didn't work.
For whatever reason, when you click on the link, it doesn't close the parentheses, so it comes up with no result found.
Looks like it's only available north of the border.
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Looks like it's only available north of the border.
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:lol :lol :lol
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Speaking of Triumph, anyone know what's up with that movie that the Beyond the Lighted Stage guy was making about Triumph?
Currently streaming exclusively through Crave and due for DVD release later this year.
I watched it a month or two ago. It was a great watch, and I had forgotten how successful Triumph were in the U.S. They still have a base of superfans.
The first person you see in the movie is Seb Bach. He has not aged well :lol
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Does he look significantly different than he did in Beyond the Lighted Stage?
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Does he look significantly different than he did in Beyond the Lighted Stage?
I don’t recall his appearance in Beyond the Lighted Stage.
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Does he look significantly different than he did in Beyond the Lighted Stage?
I don’t recall his appearance in Beyond the Lighted Stage.
He's one of the many folks who discuss how influential Rush was.
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We all get old and our appearances change over the years, some better than others.
Bach is no different to anyone from the 1980's who is still alive today.
I look nothing like my 80's persona , in fact I am more comfortable today with my 53 year old body than I was 30 years ago.
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Triumph documentary premiering for folks in the U.S. on Friday, May 13 at 8:30 p.m. EDT. (https://www.nugs.net/live-download-of-triumph-rock-and-roll-machine-toronto-ca-05-13-2022-mp3-flac-or-online-music-streaming/28888-WEBCAST.html?mc_cid=8809775391&mc_eid=08311e3fb4)
$20 for unlimited viewing through the end of May. Not sure what happens after that.
Unfortunately, I'm usually sitting on the freeway at 5:30 PDT, but maybe I'll leave work early that day.
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Does he look significantly different than he did in Beyond the Lighted Stage?
I don’t recall his appearance in Beyond the Lighted Stage.
You're one of the lucky ones...
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Speaking of Triumph, anyone know what's up with that movie that the Beyond the Lighted Stage guy was making about Triumph?
Currently streaming exclusively through Crave and due for DVD release later this year.
I watched it a month or two ago. It was a great watch, and I had forgotten how successful Triumph were in the U.S. They still have a base of superfans.
When I started getting into this type of music, Triumph was (as far as I knew) on the same level as bands like Rush, Styx, Maiden, etc. This was during the Never Surrender album cycle, so Thunder Seven was my first new album, and then things went downhill pretty fast. I've still never heard anything from the one album they did without Rik.
I just finished watching the Triumph doc. I'd say it was good but not great. A lot of cool, older footage that I'd never seen before, but it also seemed fairly superficial. They also had a very limited number of guys who had been influenced by the band...Sebastian Bach, some guy named John that I've never heard of...and not much more. They also had that annoying guy with the super thick glasses who shows up in a lot of Rush stuff (I think he's from some Canadian TV show). All in all a worthwhile watch.
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Speaking of Triumph, anyone know what's up with that movie that the Beyond the Lighted Stage guy was making about Triumph?
Currently streaming exclusively through Crave and due for DVD release later this year.
I watched it a month or two ago. It was a great watch, and I had forgotten how successful Triumph were in the U.S. They still have a base of superfans.
When I started getting into this type of music, Triumph was (as far as I knew) on the same level as bands like Rush, Styx, Maiden, etc. This was during the Never Surrender album cycle, so Thunder Seven was my first new album, and then things went downhill pretty fast. I've still never heard anything from the one album they did without Rik.
I just finished watching the Triumph doc. I'd say it was good but not great. A lot of cool, older footage that I'd never seen before, but it also seemed fairly superficial. They also had a very limited number of guys who had been influenced by the band...Sebastian Bach, some guy named John that I've never heard of...and not much more. They also had that annoying guy with the super thick glasses who shows up in a lot of Rush stuff (I think he's from some Canadian TV show). All in all a worthwhile watch.
The guy with the glasses is Bubbles from the Trailer Park Boys. Rush appeared on the show once. It’s a bit of a cult show here, but I personally don’t see the appeal, based on the few episodes I’ve seen.
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There's definitely nothing about what I've seen that would make me want to watch.
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You guys are in the minority. Most Canadians love that show that is a Canadian made show who both Rush and Triumph have talked about.
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Trailer Park Boys? Never seen it. Sound awful.
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But Tim, you haven't seen TV in decades so you're not a good barometer. Lol
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But Tim, you haven't seen TV in decades so you're not a good barometer. Lol
I have never claimed to be a good barometer of anything. :lol
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There's definitely nothing about what I've seen that would make me want to watch.
The original video for Magic Power is worth the price of admission.
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There's definitely nothing about what I've seen that would make me want to watch.
The original video for Magic Power is worth the price of admission.
Just FYI, my comment was referring to Trailer Park Boys.
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There's definitely nothing about what I've seen that would make me want to watch.
The original video for Magic Power is worth the price of admission.
Just FYI, my comment was referring to Trailer Park Boys.
:facepalm:
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There's definitely nothing about what I've seen that would make me want to watch.
The original video for Magic Power is worth the price of admission.
Just FYI, my comment was referring to Trailer Park Boys.
:facepalm:
:lol :lol
The Triumph documentary, while not great, was definitely worth the $20 (although I'd have liked to have seen it in a theater). I'll try to give it another watch before I lose access at the end of the month.