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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: KevShmev on December 10, 2020, 06:08:25 PM
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If someone came up to you said, "You can only listen to one of these eras for the rest of your life, you must pick one," which are you taking?
It is hard to not pick the first option, as I cannot imagine never hearing 2112, La Villa Strangiato, The Trees or Xanadu again, but I find that I listen to the 80's material a lot more often as time goes on, thus the 80's gets my vote.
Also, Permanent Waves was released in 1980, so I don't care that it was recorded in the 70's. For the purposes of this poll and thread, it counts as an 80's album. Just throwing that out there since it is inevitable that someone will try to cheat and include it in the 70's. :P
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So the first 6 albums vs the next TWO??
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So the first 6 albums vs the next TWO??
Damn it. Poll fixed.
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80's easily.
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80s. My three favourite albums = Moving Pictures, Permanent Waves, Grace Under Pressure
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Hmm, let's see. I have to think about this..
Hemispheres
Moving Pictures
2112
Permanent Waves
Signals
Presto
Grace Under Pressure
Fly By Night
A Farewell To Kings
Rush
Caress Of Steel
Hold Your Fire
Power Windows
For this thread, I'll go 80's but under actual circumstances, I'd never give up Hemispheres.
But I'm calling bullshit because Permanent Waves was recorded in the 70's and it was released the first day of 1980.
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Released January 14th.
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Wiki says Jan 1st.
Still recorded in the 70's. :P
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In England. In Canada and USA it was January 14th.
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80's. No contest for me at all.
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80s without a doubt.
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Had to take a quick peek at their discography to verify... I can do without anything prior to 2112, and anything after MP (though The Pass is one of my favorite songs of theirs and Presto has some nostalgic value). So it really comes down to 2112/AFtK/H vs PW/MP/The Pass. Which is pretty darn equal for me. 70s gets the edge due to 2112 (the song) and being burned out on half of MP due to classic rock radio.
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Hmm, let's see. I have to think about this..
Hemispheres
Moving Pictures
2112
Permanent Waves
Signals
Presto
Grace Under Pressure
Fly By Night
A Farewell To Kings
Rush
Caress Of Steel
Hold Your Fire
Power Windows
For this thread, I'll go 80's but under actual circumstances, I'd never give up Hemispheres.
But I'm calling bullshit because Permanent Waves was recorded in the 70's and it was released the first day of 1980.
huh, we agree here. I have a different ranking (AFTK is WAY higher, PeW and GUP are WAY lower) but my answer is the same as yours: 80's, but I'm not leaving Hemispheres on the table.
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I legitimately couldn’t care less about this poll and won’t participate. 70s and 80s Rush rule :metal
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I legitimately couldn’t care less about this poll and won’t participate. 70s and 80s Rush rule :metal
So you choose not to decide?
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This is an impossible choice. Moving Pictures is my favorite Rush album, but 2112 is my favorite Rush song. The six album run from 2112 to Signals is untouchable to me, but that’s three albums for each decade. I wouldn’t want to part with any of them.
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I legitimately couldn’t care less about this poll and won’t participate. 70s and 80s Rush rule :metal
So you choose not to decide?
:lol
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10-0 80's, jeez.
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Oops, I said I picked 70s in my post, but forgot to click in the poll. So.... first!
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Definitely the 80s. Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures and Grace Under Pressure are three of my four favorites. I don't have a tremendous interest in the first three albums or side B of 2112.
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80's easily. Looking at my ranking, it's pretty clear.
Moving Pictures
Permanent Waves
Hemispheres
Signals
A Farewell to Kings
Grace Under Pressure
Power Windows
2112
Presto
Fly By Night
Caress of Steel
Hold Your Fire
Rush
On the whole, I get more mileage out of the 80's output. Way too many songs I couldn't do without.
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Yeah, to break it down a little more based on what my favorites are...
My three favorite Rush songs are from the 70's (2112, La Villa Strangiato and Xanadu), but then if I stretched it out to a top 25, The Trees is the only other song from the 70's that would be in there for certain. By-Tor and the Snow Dog might make it depending on what day you ask me. The Necromancer and Cygnus X-1 used to be up there for me as well, but while I still love both, neither would be that high anymore. I actually might put Closer to the Heart back up there, as my love for that song has really been ignited recently after years of burn-out with it.
My three favorite Rush albums are all from the 80's: Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures and Power Windows.
I think the 80's was really when Neil his stride as a lyricist. There are plenty of good lyrics in the 70's, but some of them come off as a bit silly and/or overly wordy at times. Neil is one of my two favorite lyricists of all time (along with Roger Waters), and I feel that his peak as a lyricist was 1980-1993 (P Waves thru Counterparts).
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80's without hesitation.
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The swing album to me is Permanent Waves. (it's a 70's album)
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The swing album to me is Permanent Waves. (it's a 70's album)
Hey, your birthday is on the 14th but we'll call you a year older 2 weeks before your birthday because I say so.
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The swing album to me is Permanent Waves. (it's a 70's album)
Hey, your birthday is on the 14th but we'll call you a year older 2 weeks before your birthday because I say so.
Life begins with conception, and an enbryo has a heartbeat at .....
The album was written and recorded in 1979.
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Nope. That was you just having fun creating, LOL
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I voted for the 80s without thinking one second about it. Rush is the only prog band from the 70s era who had their peak in the 80s for me. I really like Hemispheres and Farewell, but I'd take every 80s album over any 70s album by Rush (really!). Even Hold Your Fire and Presto.
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Even Power Windows??
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You watch it bub.
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I’m just here for TAC’s Power Windows love.
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I hesitated, then went with 70s. It'd kill me to mis out on Red Barchetta, but while all the 80s albums are rock solid start to finish, my most preferred individual tracks are from the 70s - Xanadu, La Villa, 2112, Cygnus.
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I went with 70s too. Although I love Moving Pictures, overall I prefer the late 70s. The 80s Rush sound became too much keyboards for my taste.
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I hesitated, then went with 70s. It'd kill me to mis out on Red Barchetta, but while all the 80s albums are rock solid start to finish, my most preferred individual tracks are from the 70s - Xanadu, La Villa, 2112, Cygnus.
Either way, there's just too much left out. How about "75-85" then "85-95"? :)
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Well...the best stretch of albums is 2112 through Signals, three of which are from the 70s and three of which are from the 80s. 2112 through Hemispheres versus Permanent Waves through Signals is a virtual draw, so let's look at the others.
Rush, Fly by Night and Caress of Steel versus the three synth era albums and Presto. Presto and Fly by Night are the best of that bunch and probably pretty comparable, so that leaves Rush and Caress of Steel against the three synth era albums. I can make one album of material worth listening to from the synth era (Distant Early Warning, The Enemy Within, Kid Gloves, Between the Wheels, Marathon, Manhattan Project, Middletown Dreams, Emotion Detector and Time Stand Still). Rush has about a side's worth of really good to great material, and Caress is almost all good.
So...I guess that's 70s by the whiskeriest of whiskers.
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I hesitated, then went with 70s. It'd kill me to mis out on Red Barchetta, but while all the 80s albums are rock solid start to finish, my most preferred individual tracks are from the 70s - Xanadu, La Villa, 2112, Cygnus.
Either way, there's just too much left out. How about "75-85" then "85-95"? :)
That would be the biggest no-brainer in the history of anything.
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I hesitated, then went with 70s. It'd kill me to mis out on Red Barchetta, but while all the 80s albums are rock solid start to finish, my most preferred individual tracks are from the 70s - Xanadu, La Villa, 2112, Cygnus.
Either way, there's just too much left out. How about "75-85" then "85-95"? :)
That would be the biggest no-brainer in the history of anything.
I might be the weird one but I find myself listening to the albums of 85-95 more than the albums 75-85...
No?
Ok I'm the weird one
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Based on which I like more, I could go either way. Both eras have 4 albums that I really dig. I think I'd probably have to roll with the 80s, though. The reason is that even though I don't like Power Window through Preso at all, I'm also not particularly familiar with them. There's a great deal I could learn, and no doubt plenty of tiny bits that I'd adore if I were to really hunker down with those albums. At this point they might as well be new music to me.
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I can’t vote. I just can’t.
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I hesitated, then went with 70s. It'd kill me to mis out on Red Barchetta, but while all the 80s albums are rock solid start to finish, my most preferred individual tracks are from the 70s - Xanadu, La Villa, 2112, Cygnus.
Either way, there's just too much left out. How about "75-85" then "85-95"? :)
That would be the biggest no-brainer in the history of anything.
I might be the weird one but I find myself listening to the albums of 85-95 more than the albums 75-85...
No?
Ok I'm the weird one
Hmmm, that’s a weird break in the discography. 1975-1985 gets you Fly By Night through Power Windows (10 albums), whereas 1985-1995 gets you Power Windows through Counterparts (only 5 albums).
A better question would be 1975-1983 (Terry Brown era, 8 albums) v. 1984-2012 (everything else, 10 albums).
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Based on which I like more, I could go either way. Both eras have 4 albums that I really dig. I think I'd probably have to roll with the 80s, though. The reason is that even though I don't like Power Window through Preso at all, I'm also not particularly familiar with them. There's a great deal I could learn, and no doubt plenty of tiny bits that I'd adore if I were to really hunker down with those albums. At this point they might as well be new music to me.
Give Presto a fire.
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I hesitated, then went with 70s. It'd kill me to mis out on Red Barchetta, but while all the 80s albums are rock solid start to finish, my most preferred individual tracks are from the 70s - Xanadu, La Villa, 2112, Cygnus.
Either way, there's just too much left out. How about "75-85" then "85-95"? :)
That would be the biggest no-brainer in the history of anything.
I might be the weird one but I find myself listening to the albums of 85-95 more than the albums 75-85...
No?
Ok I'm the weird one
Hmmm, that’s a weird break in the discography. 1975-1985 gets you Fly By Night through Power Windows (10 albums), whereas 1985-1995 gets you Power Windows through Counterparts (only 5 albums).
A better question would be 1975-1983 (Terry Brown era, 8 albums) v. 1984-2012 (everything else, 10 albums).
Yeah, you're right; it was more of a statement than an actual question. I think for me, and no disrespect to Fritz, but 75-83 is an easy one. That takes zero thought, I'm giddy with joy I don't get GUP, and I'm only sparing about 90 seconds of lament that I don't get Presto.
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Based on which I like more, I could go either way. Both eras have 4 albums that I really dig. I think I'd probably have to roll with the 80s, though. The reason is that even though I don't like Power Window through Preso at all, I'm also not particularly familiar with them. There's a great deal I could learn, and no doubt plenty of tiny bits that I'd adore if I were to really hunker down with those albums. At this point they might as well be new music to me.
Give Presto a fire.
Set Power Windows on fire.
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It already is since it's a bright star of an album. :biggrin:
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The one with A Farewell to Kings
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The only Rush music I have any interest in at all are the albums up to and including Moving Pictures. They morphed into a very different group after that.
But if I'm being totally honest, if you told me I couldn't listen to any Rush ever again it wouldn't bother me all that much since I honestly can't remember the last time I actually put on a Rush album. Might have been to listen to the first few tracks of that Clockwork album they released a while back. It just confirmed for me that modern Rush doesn't do anything for me.
All of that said, I have always admired Rush for sticking together for so long. Very, very few bands stay together as long.
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Based on which I like more, I could go either way. Both eras have 4 albums that I really dig. I think I'd probably have to roll with the 80s, though. The reason is that even though I don't like Power Window through Preso at all, I'm also not particularly familiar with them. There's a great deal I could learn, and no doubt plenty of tiny bits that I'd adore if I were to really hunker down with those albums. At this point they might as well be new music to me.
I'd give Power Windows another shot. I promise that all the bad things people say about it are completely wrong. :)
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Based on which I like more, I could go either way. Both eras have 4 albums that I really dig. I think I'd probably have to roll with the 80s, though. The reason is that even though I don't like Power Window through Preso at all, I'm also not particularly familiar with them. There's a great deal I could learn, and no doubt plenty of tiny bits that I'd adore if I were to really hunker down with those albums. At this point they might as well be new music to me.
I'd give Power Windows another shot. I promise that all the bad things "3" people say about it are completely wrong. :)
FTFY :lol
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I hesitated, then went with 70s. It'd kill me to mis out on Red Barchetta, but while all the 80s albums are rock solid start to finish, my most preferred individual tracks are from the 70s - Xanadu, La Villa, 2112, Cygnus.
Either way, there's just too much left out. How about "75-85" then "85-95"? :)
That would be the biggest no-brainer in the history of anything.
I might be the weird one but I find myself listening to the albums of 85-95 more than the albums 75-85...
No?
Ok I'm the weird one
Hmmm, that’s a weird break in the discography. 1975-1985 gets you Fly By Night through Power Windows (10 albums), whereas 1985-1995 gets you Power Windows through Counterparts (only 5 albums).
A better question would be 1975-1983 (Terry Brown era, 8 albums) v. 1984-2012 (everything else, 10 albums).
It doesn't make sense to count POW for both groups, so doing 75-84 and 85-94 would make more sense. If you do it that way, while it's 9 albums versus 5 albums, it's almost the same amount of music. FBN through GUP is 313:21, and POW through Counterparts is 289:07 (using album lengths as listed on Wikipedia).
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I hesitated, then went with 70s. It'd kill me to mis out on Red Barchetta, but while all the 80s albums are rock solid start to finish, my most preferred individual tracks are from the 70s - Xanadu, La Villa, 2112, Cygnus.
Either way, there's just too much left out. How about "75-85" then "85-95"? :)
That would be the biggest no-brainer in the history of anything.
I might be the weird one but I find myself listening to the albums of 85-95 more than the albums 75-85...
No?
Ok I'm the weird one
Hmmm, that’s a weird break in the discography. 1975-1985 gets you Fly By Night through Power Windows (10 albums), whereas 1985-1995 gets you Power Windows through Counterparts (only 5 albums).
A better question would be 1975-1983 (Terry Brown era, 8 albums) v. 1984-2012 (everything else, 10 albums).
It doesn't make sense to count POW for both groups, so doing 75-84 and 85-94 would make more sense. If you do it that way, while it's 9 albums versus 5 albums, it's almost the same amount of music. FBN through GUP is 313:21, and POW through Counterparts is 289:07 (using album lengths as listed on Wikipedia).
It makes sense to include Power Windows for both groups because it’s the best Rush album and essential listening no matter what. ;-)
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It makes sense to include Power Windows for both groups because it’s the best Rush album and essential listening no matter what. ;-)
I like the way you think. :tup :tup
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Power Windows is outstanding
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No
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Tim is to Power Windows what a certain prominent poster years ago was to Scarred: he never misses an opportunity to shit all over it.
:lol :lol
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One day Tim will be obsessed with Power Windows and Promised Land
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Power Windows is outstanding
This.
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Tim is to Power Windows what a certain prominent poster years ago was to Scarred: he never misses an opportunity to shit all over it.
:lol :lol
:sadpanda:
I miss Blob.
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It makes no sense to include Power Windows for both groups because it’s one of the most skippable Rush albums no matter what. ;-)
Agree.
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The Power Windows debate is pretty interesting. People either love it or hate it. Interesting
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It makes no sense to include Power Windows for both groups because it’s one of the most skippable Rush albums no matter what. ;-)
Agree.
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Tim is to Power Windows what a certain prominent poster years ago was to Scarred: he never misses an opportunity to shit all over it.
:lol :lol
:sadpanda:
I miss Blob.
Oh man, I was wondering who he was talking about. I completely forgot about BVD.
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I miss Blob too. Anyone knows what he's up to?
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I miss Blob too. Anyone knows what he's up to?
I think King follows him on Twitter. I'm FB friends with him, but he never posts there.
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Yeah, he is active on Twitter.
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Note: my post was not intended to be a criticism of Blob, just so no one thinks I was trying to take a shot at him. He just had a knack for ripping Scarred, just like Tim does for Power Windows. And to be fair, like I used to for Kiss, but I decided that Kiss isn't even worth the keystrokes to type anymore (this sentence notwithstanding). :P :P
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Where did people find Permanent Waves released on January 1st, 1980?
everything I find says January 14th, 1980.
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Where did people find Permanent Waves released on January 1st, 1980?
everything I find says January 14th, 1980.
I saw January 1st the other day. I'll try and find it. It's still a 70's album. :P
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Where did people find Permanent Waves released on January 1st, 1980?
everything I find says January 14th, 1980.
I saw January 1st the other day. I'll try and find it. It's still a 70's album. :P
I only found 1 site that showed that date, https://rush.fandom.com/wiki/Discography
Yet Wikipedia, Rateyourmusic, and many others sites, including their Official Site say January 14th
https://www.rush.com/albums/permanent-waves/
Permanent Waves is the band’s seventh studio album, released on January 14th, 1980.
I mean it's not such a big deal, other than when people cite anniversaries and for myself, I have made, and am remaking a list of Historical Album Release Date Calendars, I like to have things as accurate as possible. At this point, i am assuming it was released on January 14th, 1980.
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Where did people find Permanent Waves released on January 1st, 1980?
everything I find says January 14th, 1980.
I saw January 1st the other day. I'll try and find it. It's still a 70's album. :P
Your parents had sex the year before you were born. Do you celebrate the conception? LOL
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The thought of my parents having sex does not does not signal an emotion of celebration. :lol
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Finally admitted defeat. Parents sex always works. Lol
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I legitimately couldn’t care less about this poll and won’t participate. 70s and 80s Rush rule :metal
So you choose not to decide?
That is my choice. Option 3.
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Can I choose 'all of the above?' :D
Curse you, Kev, and your difficult as hell polls.
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I legitimately couldn’t care less about this poll and won’t participate. 70s and 80s Rush rule :metal
So you choose not to decide?
That is my choice. Option 3.
But not choosing one, would that not mean you get neither for the rest of your life?
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Where did people find Permanent Waves released on January 1st, 1980?
everything I find says January 14th, 1980.
I saw January 1st the other day. I'll try and find it. It's still a 70's album. :P
Your parents had sex the year before you were born. Do you celebrate the conception? LOL
Of course. Every year. In fact there's a whole season dedicated to it. There's a great feast. People exchange gifts. Family gathers. It's always a very nice day.
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Don't gather this year there is a pandemic!
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Where did people find Permanent Waves released on January 1st, 1980?
everything I find says January 14th, 1980.
I saw January 1st the other day. I'll try and find it. It's still a 70's album. :P
Your parents had sex the year before you were born. Do you celebrate the conception? LOL
Of course. Every year. In fact there's a whole season dedicated to it. There's a great feast. People exchange gifts. Family gathers. It's always a very nice day.
Not "The Conception." Lol
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I like a lot of the 70s Rush, but the 80s are where it's at for me. :hefdaddy
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70's by far.
I'm quite surprised that a good majority of people here picked the 80's. I expected that people will be PROG-ist, but it seems they're not.
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Most are picking 80's because their 2 most beloved albums Permanent Waves & Moving Pictures are in the 80's. Is that too hard to figure out?
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Most are picking 80's because their 2 most beloved albums Permanent Waves & Moving Pictures are in the 80's. Is that too hard to figure out?
It's obvious.
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Most are picking 80's because their 2 most beloved albums Permanent Waves & Moving Pictures are in the 80's. Is that too hard to figure out?
It's obvious.
I'm surprised 80s is winning by a more than 2-1 margin, but I'm not at all surprised that 80s is winning, even though I voted 70s.
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70's by far.
I'm quite surprised that a good majority of people here picked the 80's. I expected that people will be PROG-ist, but it seems they're not.
PROG-ist?
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Most are picking 80's because their 2 most beloved albums Permanent Waves & Moving Pictures are in the 80's. Is that too hard to figure out?
That’s probably the majority, but my favorite Rush period is Signals through Presto.
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Most are picking 80's because their 2 most beloved albums Permanent Waves & Moving Pictures are in the 80's. Is that too hard to figure out?
But WHAT IF Permanent Waves is actually the 70's album?
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Since it was released in 1980 you and Tim can only live in fantasy world.
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Most are picking 80's because their 2 most beloved albums Permanent Waves & Moving Pictures are in the 80's. Is that too hard to figure out?
But WHAT IF Permanent Waves is actually the 70's album?
But it's not........
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The thought of my parents having sex does not does not signal an emotion of celebration. :lol
I'm with you; this thread took a turn for the worse.... :) :) :)
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The thought of my parents having sex does not does not signal an emotion of celebration. :lol
I'm with you; this thread took a turn for the worse.... :) :) :)
Not for my argument. It was glorious. :lol
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I legitimately couldn’t care less about this poll and won’t participate. 70s and 80s Rush rule :metal
So you choose not to decide?
That is my choice. Option 3.
But not choosing one, would that not mean you get neither for the rest of your life?
Means I get everything....
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Since it was released in 1980 you and Tim can only live in fantasy world.
To be fair, it was released in Japan on 12/31/79.
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Since it was released in 1980 you and Tim can only live in fantasy world.
To be fair, it was released in Japan on 12/31/79.
@ Kingshmegland..
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Yes because Tim knew that in 1979 and he lives in the one continent that it was released 2 weeks early.
Hey Tim, want to eat Sushi with me? Lol
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Um no!
But maybe we could watch The Karate Kid together sometime. :lol
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I'd say let's watch Kobra Kai but no way you can watch this lol
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I'd say let's watch Kobra Kai but no way you can watch this lol
WTF is Kobra Kai?
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Exactly! :lol
Did you love the Karate Kid movies?
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Wax on, wax off.
Feels like the latter will rule the day at this little watch session. ;)
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Exactly! :lol
Did you love the Karate Kid movies?
MovIES??
Nah. I've seen the first one.
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I'd say let's watch Kobra Kai but no way you can watch this lol
The misses has made me watch both whole seasons of this. It's a bit of a fucking joke. Not sure if it's helped that I haven't seen any Karate Kid movies.
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This is tough because Rush's best album, Snakes & Arrows, doesn't fit into these decades, I'll go with 70s
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This is tough because Rush's best album, Snakes & Arrows, doesn't fit into these decades, I'll go with 70s
:eek :eek
Kinda early to be drinking on a Sunday, no? :P
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This is tough because Rush's best album, Snakes & Arrows, doesn't fit into these decades, I'll go with 70s
:eek :eek
Kinda early to be drinking on a Sunday, no? :P
To answer your question, no it's not to early to start drinking.... ;)
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This is tough because Rush's best album, Snakes & Arrows, doesn't fit into these decades, I'll go with 70s
This is one of the hottest takes about Rush I've ever read.
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This is tough because Rush's best album, Snakes & Arrows, doesn't fit into these decades, I'll go with 70s
Interesting, can’t say I’ve ever heard someone say S&A is the best Rush album
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This is tough because Rush's best album, Snakes & Arrows, doesn't fit into these decades, I'll go with 70s
Interesting, can’t say I’ve ever heard someone say S&A is the best Rush album
yeah, someone like myself who considers Snakes & Arrows Rush's worst album, lol.
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80's easily.
This. Their best 3 or 4 albums for me are in the 80s.
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:lol I was curious what you guys were gonna say but yea, I think S&A is their best album. It was the first full Rush album I listened to and the one I listen to most now.
This is tough because Rush's best album, Snakes & Arrows, doesn't fit into these decades, I'll go with 70s
:eek :eek
Kinda early to be drinking on a Sunday, no? :P
I took a double to get the courage to post my take here
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I legitimately couldn’t care less about this poll and won’t participate. 70s and 80s Rush rule :metal
So you choose not to decide?
:lol
Like, jj, I 'still have made a choice'. I choose not to decide. I have been pondering this since the thread started and I am frozen. Can't decide.
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Exactly! :lol
Did you love the Karate Kid movies?
MovIES??
Nah. I've seen the first one.
God dammit
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:lol I was curious what you guys were gonna say but yea, I think S&A is their best album. It was the first full Rush album I listened to and the one I listen to most now.
This is tough because Rush's best album, Snakes & Arrows, doesn't fit into these decades, I'll go with 70s
:eek :eek
Kinda early to be drinking on a Sunday, no? :P
I took a double to get the courage to post my take here
Haha, all good!
Despite my playful pun, Rush was so great that almost any album could be a fan's favorite.
I was a big S& fan when it was first out, and truth be told, I still like it a lot; I just like almost every album of theirs more.
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I was a big S& fan when it was first out, and truth be told, I still like it a lot; I just like almost every album of theirs more.
It is so bad you can't even refer to it by its full name.
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kind of interesting, I just glanced at rateyourmusic.com's Rush albums, and S&A's is rated far higher than 7 other albums in their discography on that site. Going back to Hold Your Fire, the only album rated higher than it is Counterparts.
Rush 3.25 (4,582)
Fly By Night 3.50 (5,086)
Caress of Steel 3.36 (4,064)
2112 3.78 (10,936)
A Farewell to Kings 3.87 (7,181)
Hemispheres 3.91 (7,753)
Permanent Waves 3.86 (7,349)
Moving Pictures 3.92 (13,528)
Signals 3.69 (4,688)
Grace Under Pressure 3.68 (3,849)
Power Windows 3.52 (3,058)
Hold Your Fire 3.24 (2,592)
Presto 3.13 (2,429)
Roll the Bones 3.15 (2,468)
Counterparts 3.49 (2,572)
Test for Echo 3.03 (2,184)
Vapor Trails 3.13 (2,332)
Snakes and Arrows 3.38 (2,590)
Clockwork Angels 3.53 (2,849)
Per Rating
1. Moving Pictures 3.92 (13,528)
2. Hemispheres 3.91 (7,753)
3. A Farewell to Kings 3.87 (7,181)
4. Permanent Waves 3.86 (7,349)
5. 2112 3.78 (10,936)
6. Signals 3.69 (4,688)
7. Grace Under Pressure 3.68 (3,849)
8. Clockwork Angels 3.53 (2,849)
9. Power Windows 3.52 (3,058)
10. Fly By Night 3.50 (5,086)
11. Counterparts 3.49 (2,572)
12. Snakes and Arrows 3.38 (2,590)
13. Caress of Steel 3.36 (4,064)
14. Rush 3.25 (4,582)
15. Hold Your Fire 3.24 (2,592)
16. Roll the Bones 3.15 (2,468)
17. Presto 3.13 (2,429)
18. Vapor Trails 3.13 (2,332)
19. Test for Echo 3.03 (2,184)
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It's not their best, but I like S&A better than anything after Presto, for sure, except MAYBE Counterparts. I'd have to listen to them both back to back. But it smokes RTB and T4E, and I prefer it over VT and CA.
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I'm hoping my 4.5 rating on RYM contributed to the albums success :lol
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:lol I was curious what you guys were gonna say but yea, I think S&A is their best album. It was the first full Rush album I listened to and the one I listen to most now.
This is tough because Rush's best album, Snakes & Arrows, doesn't fit into these decades, I'll go with 70s
:eek :eek
Kinda early to be drinking on a Sunday, no? :P
I took a double to get the courage to post my take here
Haha, all good!
Despite my playful pun, Rush was so great that almost any album could be a fan's favorite.
I was a big S& fan when it was first out, and truth be told, I still like it a lot; I just like almost every album of theirs more.
You are one of those Rush fan(atic)s who think Rush didn't make one WEAK album? ;D
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A weak song here and there. Yes. A weak album......No.
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A weak song here and there. Yes. A weak album......No.
Other than Grace Under Pressure.
:)
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A weak song here and there. Yes. A weak album......No.
By weak I mean below-average. I'd definitely put Rush, Test for Echo, Roll the Bones, Presto and Vapor Trails in that category. I think those 5 albums are not terrible, they do have 3 or 4 good tunes, but generally they're below-average by Rush standards.
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I look at their catalog compared to most other bands and they are the most constant band out there. Look at Kiss, U2, these are both bands with longevity and I think they've made weak albums. as an example (Hot In The Shade, Zooropa). No Rush albums are ever that low in quality.
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A weak song here and there. Yes. A weak album......No.
Other than Grace Under Pressure.
:)
Whaaaat???? :omg:
GUP is a transformational album for Rush. Alex won Guitar Player's Guitarist of the Year award! You're daft man! :omg:
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I look at their catalog compared to most other bands and they are the most constant band out there. Look at Kiss, U2, these are both bands with longevity and I think they've made weak albums. as an example (Hot In The Shade, Zooropa). No Rush albums are ever that low in quality.
What did I ever do to you? :) :) :) :) :)
You are right with consistency, though, I'll give you that. There's not one album in the catalogue that was phoned in (I like HitS, but even I will admit it was cobbled together; much of the album is actually the band's demos with overdubs).
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A weak song here and there. Yes. A weak album......No.
Other than Grace Under Pressure.
:)
Whaaaat???? :omg:
GUP is a transformational album for Rush. Alex won Guitar Player's Guitarist of the Year award! You're daft man! :omg:
Funny enough, Alex's guitars are what I like best about that album. It's really a textbook for him. I just don't think the songs are strong, and it's by far Neil's worst drum sound on record.
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I look at their catalog compared to most other bands and they are the most constant band out there. Look at Kiss, U2, these are both bands with longevity and I think they've made weak albums. as an example (Hot In The Shade, Zooropa). No Rush albums are ever that low in quality.
Not really much of a KISS fan, but I quite like Hot in the Shade, although my favorite KISS album is Revenge.
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I look at their catalog compared to most other bands and they are the most constant band out there. Look at Kiss, U2, these are both bands with longevity and I think they've made weak albums. as an example (Hot In The Shade, Zooropa). No Rush albums are ever that low in quality.
Not really much of a KISS fan, but I quite like Hot in the Shade, although my favorite KISS album is Revenge.
Revenge is up there for me as well. HITS was a bunch of rough demos that they touched up and put out. Compared to Animalize, it's a poor record. The tour though was outstanding. That was the tour they broke out old songs they hadn't played in a long time.
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Even at their worst, I dont think Rush ever put out a bad album. Some weaker ones? Sure. But nothing Heaven & Earth or Open Your Eyes bad.
The worst they ever got was mediocre or just plain middling. Roll the Bones, Test for Echo, and Vapor Trails fall into that category for me. Maybe Snakes & Arrows as well.
A weak song here and there. Yes. A weak album......No.
Other than Grace Under Pressure.
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Whaaaat???? :omg:
GUP is a transformational album for Rush. Alex won Guitar Player's Guitarist of the Year award! You're daft man! :omg:
Funny enough, Alex's guitars are what I like best about that album. It's really a textbook for him. I just don't think the songs are strong, and it's by far Neil's worst drum sound on record.
I find GUP has more highlights than not, and it has what's probably in my top 3 Rush songs ever with Between the Wheels. I guess tastes and all that; I find that the album has some of their strongest and most powerful songwriting.
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Most of side 2 of Grace Under Pressure isn't great, but the album still has Distant Early Warning (awesome), Afterimage (really, really good), Red Sector A (awesome, albeit better live), The Enemy Within (damn good) and Between the Wheels (killer), so I will stand firm behind it.
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Most of side 2 of Grace Under Pressure isn't great, but the album still has Distant Early Warning (awesome), Afterimage (really, really good), Red Sector A (awesome, albeit better live), The Enemy Within (damn good) and Between the Wheels (killer), so I will stand firm behind it.
Yes, it's basically an EP.
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Most of side 2 of Grace Under Pressure isn't great, but the album still has Distant Early Warning (awesome), Afterimage (really, really good), Red Sector A (awesome, albeit better live), The Enemy Within (damn good) and Between the Wheels (killer), so I will stand firm behind it.
Yes, it's basically an EP.
I wouldn't go that far, as I do like The Body Electric, Kid Gloves and Red Lenses, but I don't think any of them are essential.
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Kid Gloves has always been a standout, other than I find it's a little short.
But it's amazing, when I 1st started mixing with Rush fans online in the 90's, every other user worshipped it and/or used it as a screen-name.
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The only song that’s not good to great on Grace Under Pressure is Red Lenses, and I still find it enjoyable if I’m in the mood for that sort of thing.
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Even at their worst, I dont think Rush ever put out a bad album. Some weaker ones? Sure. But nothing Heaven & Earth or Open Your Eyes bad.
What is Heaven & Earth?
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What is Heaven & Earth?
Yes's most recent studio album to date, from 2014.
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The worst they ever got was mediocre or just plain middling. Roll the Bones, Test for Echo, and Vapor Trails fall into that category for me. Maybe Snakes & Arrows as well.
What about their debut? To me it sounds like a third-rate Led Zeppelin.
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The worst they ever got was mediocre or just plain middling. Roll the Bones, Test for Echo, and Vapor Trails fall into that category for me. Maybe Snakes & Arrows as well.
What about their debut? To me it sounds like a third-rate Led Zeppelin.
It's not essential to their discography by any means, but honestly I kinda like it. I know it's not a super original sound for the time, and half the tracklist is somewhat forgettable, but it does have some strong hooks. Take a Friend and Here Again are legitimately good tunes. And Working Man of course is great.
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A weak song here and there. Yes. A weak album......No.
Other than Grace Under Pressure.
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Whaaaat???? :omg:
GUP is a transformational album for Rush. Alex won Guitar Player's Guitarist of the Year award! You're daft man! :omg:
Funny enough, Alex's guitars are what I like best about that album. It's really a textbook for him. I just don't think the songs are strong, and it's by far Neil's worst drum sound on record.
Actually, I would rate Presto as their sonically worst album which I would include Neil's drums. Absolutely flat as a pancake.
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Most of side 2 of Grace Under Pressure isn't great, but the album still has Distant Early Warning (awesome), Afterimage (really, really good), Red Sector A (awesome, albeit better live), The Enemy Within (damn good) and Between the Wheels (killer), so I will stand firm behind it.
Afterimage never clicked with me, frankly, and it's also got the horrid "Red Lenses" and not quite mediocre "Kid Gloves". I do like "Distant Early Warning", "Red Sector A", and "The Body Electric" live, though, particularly when Neil plays it on his regular kit.
It's RSA that has the epitome moment of why I don't like the record though: There's the moment when Geddy sings "I hear the sound of gunfire at the prison gates..." and there's this drum fill by the greatest drummer in modern rock that's like a wet noodle.
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A weak album:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8c/Rush_Hold_Your_Fire.jpg)
A weak song here and there. Yes. A weak album......No.
Other than Grace Under Pressure.
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Whaaaat???? :omg:
GUP is a transformational album for Rush.
You say that like it's a good thing.... They started transforming from excellent production and smart songwriting to...well...I've said enough what I think about GUP (although GUP >> POW >>>> HYF).
Most of side 2 of Grace Under Pressure isn't great, but the album still has Distant Early Warning (awesome), Afterimage (really, really good), Red Sector A (awesome, albeit better live), The Enemy Within (damn good) and Between the Wheels (killer), so I will stand firm behind it.
For me, it's DEW (good), TEW (excellent), Kid Gloves (good) and BTW (excellent). The rest is skippable.
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HYF is light years better than my 2 examples of bad albums by other bands. Ex: U2 - Zooropa, Kiss - Hot In The Shade. Those are bad albums by bands.
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Most of side 2 of Grace Under Pressure isn't great, but the album still has Distant Early Warning (awesome), Afterimage (really, really good), Red Sector A (awesome, albeit better live), The Enemy Within (damn good) and Between the Wheels (killer), so I will stand firm behind it.
Afterimage never clicked with me, frankly, and it's also got the horrid "Red Lenses" and not quite mediocre "Kid Gloves". I do like "Distant Early Warning", "Red Sector A", and "The Body Electric" live, though, particularly when Neil plays it on his regular kit.
It's RSA that has the epitome moment of why I don't like the record though: There's the moment when Geddy sings "I hear the sound of gunfire at the prison gates..." and there's this drum fill by the greatest drummer in modern rock that's like a wet noodle.
Red Sector A is like a million times better live. That is the one Rush song where I literally never listen to the studio version. I mostly like the production values of that record, but that song came off as too stiff and expressionless on record. Live, it was a beast.
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Most of side 2 of Grace Under Pressure isn't great, but the album still has Distant Early Warning (awesome), Afterimage (really, really good), Red Sector A (awesome, albeit better live), The Enemy Within (damn good) and Between the Wheels (killer), so I will stand firm behind it.
Afterimage never clicked with me, frankly, and it's also got the horrid "Red Lenses" and not quite mediocre "Kid Gloves". I do like "Distant Early Warning", "Red Sector A", and "The Body Electric" live, though, particularly when Neil plays it on his regular kit.
It's RSA that has the epitome moment of why I don't like the record though: There's the moment when Geddy sings "I hear the sound of gunfire at the prison gates..." and there's this drum fill by the greatest drummer in modern rock that's like a wet noodle.
Red Sector A is like a million times better live. That is the one Rush song where I literally never listen to the studio version. I mostly like the production values of that record, but that song came off as too stiff and expressionless on record. Live, it was a beast.
I feel like “stiff and expressionless” is kind of what they were going for. Describes the bleakness of the subject matter perfectly.
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HYF is light years better than my 2 examples of bad albums by other bands. Ex: U2 - Zooropa, Kiss - Hot In The Shade. Those are bad albums by bands.
To the best of my knowledge, I've never heard any song on either of those albums, so I can't speak intelligently about how they fall in the context of those bands' catalogs, but HYF is weak sauce in the context of Rush's catalog.
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Hold Your Fire is a weird album for sure. It has 3 really great songs (Force Ten, Time Stand Still, and Mission) and 3 other songs I mostly enjoy (Open Secrets, Prime Mover, and High Water). But the other 4 tracks are among my least favorite Rush songs, especially Second Nature and Tai Shan.
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I've always enjoyed Second Nature.
I have come to in recent years to feel Hold Your Fire is as good if not slightly better than Power Windows.
The weakest track on it I feel is Turn the Page, and I don't hate that tune, I just feel it doesn't include any of those special, goosebump moments that nearly every other track on that album has.
Also Zooropa I find to be a lot better than many of the records that have come since, other than maybe All That You Can't Leave Behind.
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I've always enjoyed Second Nature.
I have come to in recent years to feel Hold Your Fire is as good if not slightly better than Power Windows.
The weakest track on it I feel is Turn the Page, and I don't hate that tune, I just feel it doesn't include any of those special, goosebump moments that nearly every other track on that album has.
Also Zooropa I find to be a lot better than many of the records that have come since, other than maybe All That You Can't Leave Behind.
Tai Shain is on HYF. There is a very wide consensus that Tai Shain is a BAD Rush song.
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I agree WildRanger on Tai Shan.
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Hold Your Fire is a weird album for sure. It has 3 really great songs (Force Ten, Time Stand Still, and Mission) and 3 other songs I mostly enjoy (Open Secrets, Prime Mover, and High Water). But the other 4 tracks are among my least favorite Rush songs, especially Second Nature and Tai Shan.
Second Nature and Tai Shan are definitely the weak spots on HYF (I don't think either is bad, but neither is very good either). For me, the issue with that album has always been the sound of it. Neil Peart once described it as sounding "crash-bangy" and I think that was a good way to put it. I still love most of the songs on it, but it's an unusual-sounding record.
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Hold Your Fire is a weird album for sure. It has 3 really great songs (Force Ten, Time Stand Still, and Mission) and 3 other songs I mostly enjoy (Open Secrets, Prime Mover, and High Water). But the other 4 tracks are among my least favorite Rush songs, especially Second Nature and Tai Shan.
Second Nature and Tai Shan are definitely the weak spots on HYF (I don't think either is bad, but neither is very good either). For me, the issue with that album has always been the sound of it. Neil Peart once described it as sounding "crash-bangy" and I think that was a good way to put it. I still love most of the songs on it, but it's an unusual-sounding record.
It’s the most “artificial” sounding Rush record for lack of a better word. I think Geddy once remarked that he spent more time programming stuff on the computer than writing and playing for that album. But I also think the songwriting itself is just really clumsy in places, with some of Neil’s more embarrassing lyrics.
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I've always enjoyed Second Nature.
I have come to in recent years to feel Hold Your Fire is as good if not slightly better than Power Windows.
The weakest track on it I feel is Turn the Page, and I don't hate that tune, I just feel it doesn't include any of those special, goosebump moments that nearly every other track on that album has.
Also Zooropa I find to be a lot better than many of the records that have come since, other than maybe All That You Can't Leave Behind.
Hold Your Fire is way underrated, IMO. It's not a top tier Rush album, but there's no really BAD song on there (including Tai Shan). Because it's so consistent, it's actually a record I listen to a lot. Prime Mover is probably a top 15 Rush song (that BASSLINE!). I love Power Windows, but it drops off (in my opinion, badly) on side two. Mystic Rhythms is the only song on side two I REALLY like.
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I can't remember where I saw it, but after Neil's passing, a close friend of his said that he and Neil listened to Hold Your Fire a lot in his last few years and it had become Neil's favorite Rush album (I think). Slightly paraphrasing, but that was the gist, IIRC.
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I can't remember where I saw it, but after Neil's passing, a close friend of his said that he and Neil listened to Hold Your Fire a lot in his last few years and it had become Neil's favorite Rush album (I think). Slightly paraphrasing, but that was the gist, IIRC.
I haven't heard this but you've got to think there is one last book yet to be released by his estate chronicling his last years with the disease. Maybe??
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It's not one of my favorites, but sometimes I think HYF doesn't get it's due. Force Ten and Time Stand Still are classics, and Open Secrets, Prime Mover, and Lock and Key are good tunes as well. I really don't get all the hate for Tai Shan either. It's not amazing, but a pleasant, slower paced track. The only song I really dislike is Second Nature, and High Water is pretty boring for a closer. Otherwise, it's a decent album.
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I've always enjoyed Second Nature.
I have come to in recent years to feel Hold Your Fire is as good if not slightly better than Power Windows.
The weakest track on it I feel is Turn the Page, and I don't hate that tune, I just feel it doesn't include any of those special, goosebump moments that nearly every other track on that album has.
Also Zooropa I find to be a lot better than many of the records that have come since, other than maybe All That You Can't Leave Behind.
Hold Your Fire is way underrated, IMO. It's not a top tier Rush album, but there's no really BAD song on there (including Tai Shan). Because it's so consistent, it's actually a record I listen to a lot. Prime Mover is probably a top 15 Rush song (that BASSLINE!). I love Power Windows, but it drops off (in my opinion, badly) on side two. Mystic Rhythms is the only song on side two I REALLY like.
I honestly have never got the hate for Tai Shan. I know you used to listen to Used Bin Radio, and that song was a constant punch-line on there, but I also got the sense Brad sincerely felt it is a track that deserved more mention (esepcially to be played live).
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Geddy and Alex joke about Tai Shan. Even they don't like it.
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That's true. but I learned years ago that we can't always trust the makers of the art when it comes to how good the art is. Heck, the band thought One Little Victory was good enough to play on multiple tours, so as highly as I think of Rush, they were not infallible when it came to judging their own music.
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For some reason they also played The Pass on multiple tours too.
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Since Geddy used to say live it's his favorite song so...
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And The Pass is great anyways. :P
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Since Geddy used to say live it's his favorite song so...
Who's Geddy?
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Since Geddy used to say live it's his favorite song so...
WTF is Geddy?
Let me help you.
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Just saw this! :metal
(https://i.imgflip.com/3mjdx0.jpg)
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Glorious!
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This is tough because Rush's best album, Snakes & Arrows, doesn't fit into these decades, I'll go with 70s
Won't say it's the best, but I'd put that, Vapor Trails and Clockwork Angels up against ANY other three that aren't live albums.
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A weak song here and there. Yes. A weak album......No.
There's your answer.
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A weak song here and there. Yes. A weak album......No.
By weak I mean below-average. I'd definitely put Rush, Test for Echo, Roll the Bones, Presto and Vapor Trails in that category. I think those 5 albums are not terrible, they do have 3 or 4 good tunes, but generally they're below-average by Rush standards.
No below average albums by Rush's standard.
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Most of side 2 of Grace Under Pressure isn't great, but the album still has Distant Early Warning (awesome), Afterimage (really, really good), Red Sector A (awesome, albeit better live), The Enemy Within (damn good) and Between the Wheels (killer), so I will stand firm behind it.
Yes, it's basically an EP.
I wouldn't go that far, as I do like The Body Electric, Kid Gloves and Red Lenses, but I don't think any of them are essential.
I would.
I consider every song on that album essential. The entire Grace Under Pressure album was played live for at least part of that tour. The only album other than Hemispheres to be played live to that point (I suppose you could say Moving Pictures was too since Witch Hunt debuted on the Grace Under Pressure Tour.)
R40 of course completed the Signals collection.
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I agree WildRanger on Tai Shan.
May not have gone over well live, but I like it was a studio piece.
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Just saw this! :metal
(https://i.imgflip.com/3mjdx0.jpg)
Awesome!
Would have been better if those images were linked to the same period of time.
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That picture is spectacular :metal
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I agree WildRanger on Tai Shan.
May not have gone over well live, but I like it was a studio piece.
Considering it was never played live (thankfully)....
No below average albums by Rush's standard.
By definition, half of their albums are below average.
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Just saw this! :metal
(https://i.imgflip.com/3mjdx0.jpg)
Deep Purple are carved in rocky mountain long before them (in 1970). ;D
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They were??
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Yes. You never saw that Tim?
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They were??
Are you kidding?
(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F5%2F54%2FDeep_Purple_in_Rock.jpg&hash=5e17943ce35dc4b5aff08edaca6853c3a2b4e455)
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oh yes, Deep Purple, the child of Pink Floyd and Blue Oyster Cult
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oh yes, Deep Purple, the child of Pink Floyd and Blue Oyster Cult
You're wrong, because Deep Purple is older than BOC.
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Actually, they're not
Pink Floyd (1965)
Blue Öyster Cult (1967)
Deep Purple (1968)
But whatever, it was just a joke about the colours in the band names :)
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Yes. You never saw that Tim?
:facepalm:
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Yes. You never saw that Tim?
:facepalm:
Brain fart. I know. I'm having a ton lately. lol
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I've always enjoyed Second Nature.
I have come to in recent years to feel Hold Your Fire is as good if not slightly better than Power Windows.
The weakest track on it I feel is Turn the Page, and I don't hate that tune, I just feel it doesn't include any of those special, goosebump moments that nearly every other track on that album has.
Also Zooropa I find to be a lot better than many of the records that have come since, other than maybe All That You Can't Leave Behind.
Hold Your Fire is way underrated, IMO. It's not a top tier Rush album, but there's no really BAD song on there (including Tai Shan). Because it's so consistent, it's actually a record I listen to a lot. Prime Mover is probably a top 15 Rush song (that BASSLINE!). I love Power Windows, but it drops off (in my opinion, badly) on side two. Mystic Rhythms is the only song on side two I REALLY like.
I honestly have never got the hate for Tai Shan. I know you used to listen to Used Bin Radio, and that song was a constant punch-line on there, but I also got the sense Brad sincerely felt it is a track that deserved more mention (esepcially to be played live).
I'm with you.
(And yes on the Used Bin; I found a couple podcasts that I had saved - including the "1984" April Fool's episode which is hilarious - and I miss them. That was a great, great show, and I could listen to them talk about Sunset Strip all day long.)
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Wow. I'm very surprised.
Although 70's Rush were much more prog, 80's dominate in this poll by a huge margin.
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Even though Hemispheres is my all time #1, the rest of the albums just don’t stack up against PeW, MP, Signals, and PoW. 80s all the way.
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Even though Hemispheres is my all time #1, the rest of the albums just don’t stack up against PeW, MP, Signals, and PoW. 80s all the way.
PoW over 2112??
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Wow. I'm very surprised.
Although 70's Rush were much more prog, 80's dominate in this poll by a huge margin.
I'm surprised at the margin, but not the result.
You have to keep in mind that, unless you buy into Permanent Waves being a '70s album because it was recorded in the '70s, '70s Rush is only the first six albums -- the self-titled through Hemispheres. '80s Rush is Permanent Waves through Presto. Even if you're like me and have GUP, POW and HYF way at the bottom of your album rankings, you're still looking at Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures, Signals and Presto against the '70s lineup. Therefore, if, like a lot of folks here, you think the synth era has more merit than 1-2 songs per album, choosing the '80s albums isn't a difficult thing.
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Even though Hemispheres is my all time #1, the rest of the albums just don’t stack up against PeW, MP, Signals, and PoW. 80s all the way.
PoW over 2112??
Absolutely, without a doubt, yes for me too.
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Even though Hemispheres is my all time #1, the rest of the albums just don’t stack up against PeW, MP, Signals, and PoW. 80s all the way.
PoW over 2112??
Absolutely, without a doubt, yes for me too.
Yes, it's not even close! Power Windows is one of my all time favorite albums. Of any band!
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Even though Hemispheres is my all time #1, the rest of the albums just don’t stack up against PeW, MP, Signals, and PoW. 80s all the way.
PoW over 2112??
Yes, without even a tiny bit of a doubt for me. We probably wouldn't have had Rush as we know it past 1976 if it weren't for 2112, so there's that for literal historical relevance. That said, while certain parts of the suite are incredibly iconic and top-shelf Rush (I'll never get tired of the riffs in Overture/Temples, and the ferociousness of the Grand Finale), the rest is mostly good to ok for me. On the other hand, Power Windows is in my Rush top 5. So, pretty easy choice :biggrin:
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Wow. I'm very surprised.
Although 70's Rush were much more prog, 80's dominate in this poll by a huge margin.
I'm surprised at the margin, but not the result.
You have to keep in mind that, unless you buy into Permanent Waves being a '70s album because it was recorded in the '70s, '70s Rush is only the first six albums -- the self-titled through Hemispheres. '80s Rush is Permanent Waves through Presto. Even if you're like me and have GUP, POW and HYF way at the bottom of your album rankings, you're still looking at Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures, Signals and Presto against the '70s lineup. Therefore, if, like a lot of folks here, you think the synth era has more merit than 1-2 songs per album, choosing the '80s albums isn't a difficult thing.
100% agree with this. Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures being 80s albums clearly tips the balance. In my case, it's an even easier choice, as I love the synth-era, and I don't love phase one (even 2112, as mentioned above, is not among my Rush favorites). A Farewell to Kings and Hemispheres are fantastic, but that's not enough...
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100% agree with this. Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures being 80s albums clearly tips the balance. In my case, it's an even easier choice, as I love the synth-era, and I don't love phase one (even 2112, as mentioned above, is not among my Rush favorites). A Farewell to Kings and Hemispheres are fantastic, but that's not enough...
WildRanger apparently hasn't paid a lot of attention to how much love POW gets around here and seems to assume that, because DT is a prog metal band, the most proggy option will always win.
My rationale eight-plus months ago when this thread was as follows: the best stretch of albums is 2112 through Signals, three of which are from the 70s and three of which are from the 80s. They're basically a wash, so you have to look at the others: Rush, Fly by Night and Caress of Steel versus the three synth era albums and Presto.
Presto and Fly by Night are the best of that bunch and probably pretty comparable, so that leaves Rush and Caress of Steel against the three synth era albums. I can make one album of material worth listening to from the synth era (Distant Early Warning, The Enemy Within, Kid Gloves, Between the Wheels, Marathon, Manhattan Project, Middletown Dreams, Emotion Detector, and Mission (I previously said Time Stand Still, but Mission is the far superior song)). Rush has about a side's worth of really good to great material, and Caress is almost all good.
So...I voted for '70s by the whiskeriest of whiskers. If Permanent Waves were moved from the '80s to the '70s, then this would be the easiest choice ever.
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70s by a nipple.
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Easily the 80s. Geddy's voice is less screechy, his synths are one of my favorite things about Rush, I like the new wave and reggae influences (maybe just second hand Police ones?), and Lifeson, despite not being quite as prominent, does some of his most interesting work in this period.
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Even though Hemispheres is my all time #1, the rest of the albums just don’t stack up against PeW, MP, Signals, and PoW. 80s all the way.
PoW over 2112??
Absolutely!!! No hesitation.
2112 is a monster song, but an uneven album. Don’t listen to it very often anymore.
Power Windows is easily 3 or 4, 2112 barely cracks the top 10.
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Not sure if this would be interesting, but:
Rush for the rest of your life: 90's vs 00/10's
Roll the Bones
Counterparts
Test for Echo
~vs~
Vapor Trails
Snakes & Arrows
Clockwork Angels
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Not sure if this would be interesting, but:
Rush for the rest of your life: 90's vs 00/10's
Roll the Bones
Counterparts
Test for Echo
~vs~
Vapor Trails
Snakes & Arrows
Clockwork Angels
This is tough. I think TFE might be the best of them all, but as a group the 10s are far stronger.
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Just curious, I don't have a good enough read on the forum's Rush fans, or Rush fans in general, to see which way this would go. Out of those, I only own CA, and love it, so that is where I lean.
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Just curious, I don't have a good enough read on the forum's Rush fans, or Rush fans in general, to see which way this would go. Out of those, I only own CA, and love it, so that is where I lean.
I think most Rush fans would say that is the best out of that group.
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Not sure if this would be interesting, but:
Rush for the rest of your life: 90's vs 00/10's
Roll the Bones
Counterparts
Test for Echo
~vs~
Vapor Trails
Snakes & Arrows
Clockwork Angels
uh, Genesis? :)
Roll The Bones, Test For Echo and Vapor Trails are not favorites. So it's Counterparts versus Snakes and Arrows (the best of the six) with CA as the tie-breaker. Nod to the 10's.
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Not sure if this would be interesting, but:
Rush for the rest of your life: 90's vs 00/10's
Roll the Bones
Counterparts
Test for Echo
~vs~
Vapor Trails
Snakes & Arrows
Clockwork Angels
I'd probably go with the new millennium albums simply because RTB would be no factor at all, and VT is the best of the six.
VT
TFE
Counterparts
S&A
CW
RTB
Just curious, I don't have a good enough read on the forum's Rush fans, or Rush fans in general, to see which way this would go. Out of those, I only own CA, and love it, so that is where I lean.
I think most Rush fans would say that is the best out of that group.
Ummm....
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Not sure if this would be interesting, but:
Rush for the rest of your life: 90's vs 00/10's
Roll the Bones
Counterparts
Test for Echo
~vs~
Vapor Trails
Snakes & Arrows
Clockwork Angels
I’ll take the first three. I just haven’t been able to form much attachment to S&A or CA. I do love Vapor Trails, but on the whole I like the first group a lot more than the second.
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Not sure if this would be interesting, but:
Rush for the rest of your life: 90's vs 00/10's
Roll the Bones
Counterparts
Test for Echo
~vs~
Vapor Trails
Snakes & Arrows
Clockwork Angels
Counterparts is one of my favorite Rush albums, period. That alone, combined with not having super-strong feelings about the other albums in the list (I like them all, btw, they just are not top-tier...), makes the 90s the group of choice.
If I had to rank these:
Counterparts
Roll the Bones
Test for Echo/Clockwork Angels (can't quite decide)
Vapor Trails
Snakes & Arrows