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Title: John Petrucci's guitar is being used in an Azerbaijani war propaganda music vide
Post by: Rathma on November 03, 2020, 06:58:30 AM
https://www.vice.com/en/article/epdgjn/azerbaijan-dropped-a-music-video-before-going-to-war-with-armenia?fbclid=IwAR2bbcPzDdVwx2fVdQ9HcXNUw4ZIK-J5dkkrfbIvgW5OTbYNkjDtA7Q11bU

Go to 3:56 on the first video. It's clearly the John Petrucci signature. The dude who made this song is probably a DT fan lol. The song itself is not bad but the way it's glorifying war is horrifying.
Title: Re: John Petrucci's guitar is being used in an Azerbaijani war propaganda music vide
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 03, 2020, 08:23:47 AM
https://www.vice.com/en/article/epdgjn/azerbaijan-dropped-a-music-video-before-going-to-war-with-armenia?fbclid=IwAR2bbcPzDdVwx2fVdQ9HcXNUw4ZIK-J5dkkrfbIvgW5OTbYNkjDtA7Q11bU

Go to 3:56 on the first video. It's clearly the John Petrucci signature. The dude who made this song is probably a DT fan lol. The song itself is not bad but the way it's glorifying war is horrifying.

Well, that's the unintended consequences of releasing signature products.
Title: Re: John Petrucci's guitar is being used in an Azerbaijani war propaganda music vide
Post by: MirrorMask on November 03, 2020, 09:56:15 AM
"Dream Theater first revel in the destruction of the Twin Towers and now support war"

(Some random headline somewhere, probably)
Title: Re: John Petrucci's guitar is being used in an Azerbaijani war propaganda music vide
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on November 03, 2020, 10:58:18 AM
https://www.vice.com/en/article/epdgjn/azerbaijan-dropped-a-music-video-before-going-to-war-with-armenia?fbclid=IwAR2bbcPzDdVwx2fVdQ9HcXNUw4ZIK-J5dkkrfbIvgW5OTbYNkjDtA7Q11bU

Go to 3:56 on the first video. It's clearly the John Petrucci signature. The dude who made this song is probably a DT fan lol. The song itself is not bad but the way it's glorifying war is horrifying.

Well, that's the unintended consequences of releasing signature products.

Yeah, this is kinda dark lol but there's nothing to say or do about it.
Title: Re: John Petrucci's guitar is being used in an Azerbaijani war propaganda music vide
Post by: Rathma on November 03, 2020, 07:22:35 PM
"Dream Theater first revel in the destruction of the Twin Towers and now support war"

(Some random headline somewhere, probably)

Lol yea seriously. Also System of a Down ain't happy.
Title: Re: John Petrucci's guitar is being used in an Azerbaijani war propaganda music vide
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on November 03, 2020, 11:40:36 PM
The song itself is not bad but the way it's glorifying war is horrifying.

This

I hope people don't interpret this as an endorsement from DT (& I really hope the band wouldn't endorse it if given the opportunity), though I like to think most of the views on this video wouldn't be so quick to make assumptions. Though tbh I don't know if DT even has a notable fanbase in either of those countries to begin with.
Title: Re: John Petrucci's guitar is being used in an Azerbaijani war propaganda music vide
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 04, 2020, 09:14:14 AM
https://www.vice.com/en/article/epdgjn/azerbaijan-dropped-a-music-video-before-going-to-war-with-armenia?fbclid=IwAR2bbcPzDdVwx2fVdQ9HcXNUw4ZIK-J5dkkrfbIvgW5OTbYNkjDtA7Q11bU

Go to 3:56 on the first video. It's clearly the John Petrucci signature. The dude who made this song is probably a DT fan lol. The song itself is not bad but the way it's glorifying war is horrifying.

Well, that's the unintended consequences of releasing signature products.

Yeah, this is kinda dark lol but there's nothing to say or do about it.

It is a bleak outlook of it, but it's the truth.

No one has control of how their product is used once its available on the market.

The song itself is not bad but the way it's glorifying war is horrifying.

This

I hope people don't interpret this as an endorsement from DT (& I really hope the band wouldn't endorse it if given the opportunity), though I like to think most of the views on this video wouldn't be so quick to make assumptions. Though tbh I don't know if DT even has a notable fanbase in either of those countries to begin with.

I think they'd have to be quite, how do I put it...Dumb, to think it's an endorsement by DT just because a guy is playing a JP signature guitar available to anyone who wants one. By that logic, all the companies whose equipment they are using are endorsing this war.

It's unfortunate, but nothing can be done about it.

Title: Re: John Petrucci's guitar is being used in an Azerbaijani war propaganda music vide
Post by: Architeuthis on November 07, 2020, 11:00:11 AM
That was actually a well crafted song.  I wonder if it is really glorifying war, or pointing out how ridiculous war is?
Sounded like a good band though.  :metal
Title: Re: John Petrucci's guitar is being used in an Azerbaijani war propaganda music vide
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on November 07, 2020, 02:30:39 PM
That was actually a well crafted song.  I wonder if it is really glorifying war, or pointing out how ridiculous war is?
Sounded like a good band though.  :metal

Considering that it was a video commissioned by the Azerbaijani government to go alongside a declaration of a real war with Armenia, I think it's safe to say that the video is pro-war. :P

The song's not bad, but I'm absolutely against what it stands for.
Title: Re: John Petrucci's guitar is being used in an Azerbaijani war propaganda music vide
Post by: Architeuthis on November 08, 2020, 06:07:52 AM
That was actually a well crafted song.  I wonder if it is really glorifying war, or pointing out how ridiculous war is?
Sounded like a good band though.  :metal

Considering that it was a video commissioned by the Azerbaijani government to go alongside a declaration of a real war with Armenia, I think it's safe to say that the video is pro-war. :P

The song's not bad, but I'm absolutely against what it stands for.
Oh man, I'm with you on that bro.. 

Title: Re: John Petrucci's guitar is being used in an Azerbaijani war propaganda music vide
Post by: bosk1 on November 09, 2020, 01:07:53 PM
I hope people don't interpret this as an endorsement from DT

Nobody in their right mind would have that interpretation.
Title: Re: John Petrucci's guitar is being used in an Azerbaijani war propaganda music vide
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on November 09, 2020, 04:08:49 PM
I hope people don't interpret this as an endorsement from DT

Nobody in their right mind would have that interpretation.

True. I just hope people are in their right mind.
Title: Re: John Petrucci's guitar is being used in an Azerbaijani war propaganda music vide
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on November 09, 2020, 10:39:30 PM
Armenia, Azerbaijan, Russia say sign deal to end Nagorno-Karabakh conflict (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-armenia-azerbaijan/armenia-says-signs-deal-to-end-war-with-azerbaijan-and-russia-idUSKBN27P1FL)

Oh, that was fast. I guess the video wasn't that effective after all :lol
Title: Re: John Petrucci's guitar is being used in an Azerbaijani war propaganda music vide
Post by: Rathma on November 15, 2020, 09:37:50 PM
Armenia, Azerbaijan, Russia say sign deal to end Nagorno-Karabakh conflict (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-armenia-azerbaijan/armenia-says-signs-deal-to-end-war-with-azerbaijan-and-russia-idUSKBN27P1FL)

Oh, that was fast. I guess the video wasn't that effective after all :lol

Actually, Azerbaijan gained a lot of territory. Basically a huge victory for them. So who knows, maybe it did wonders?
Title: Re: John Petrucci's guitar is being used in an Azerbaijani war propaganda music vide
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on November 15, 2020, 09:53:16 PM
Armenia, Azerbaijan, Russia say sign deal to end Nagorno-Karabakh conflict (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-armenia-azerbaijan/armenia-says-signs-deal-to-end-war-with-azerbaijan-and-russia-idUSKBN27P1FL)

Oh, that was fast. I guess the video wasn't that effective after all :lol

Actually, Azerbaijan gained a lot of territory. Basically a huge victory for them. So who knows, maybe it did wonders?

Good point, actually.
Title: Re: John Petrucci's guitar is being used in an Azerbaijani war propaganda music vide
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 15, 2020, 10:08:36 PM
Armenia, Azerbaijan, Russia say sign deal to end Nagorno-Karabakh conflict (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-armenia-azerbaijan/armenia-says-signs-deal-to-end-war-with-azerbaijan-and-russia-idUSKBN27P1FL)

Oh, that was fast. I guess the video wasn't that effective after all :lol

Actually, Azerbaijan gained a lot of territory. Basically a huge victory for them. So who knows, maybe it did wonders?

Yes Azerbaijan did gain territory and it's sad.

https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/armenians-burn-their-homes-on-land-to-be-turned-over-to-azerbaijan/
Title: Re: John Petrucci's guitar is being used in an Azerbaijani war propaganda music vide
Post by: DT1138 on December 19, 2020, 09:45:31 AM
So if a person purposely uses a Tesla to run down a crowd of people, does the world have to hate Elon Musk?

I agree that we live in some pretty wacky times (people are WAY too sensitive to just about anything these days).  But consider the following:

1.  Anyone familiar DT well enough would already know that they would not promote that kind of message.
2.  JP's guitar is barely onscreen for mere fractions of a second.
3.  Non-DT fans wouldn't have a clue (much less even care) what brand of guitar JP uses, endorses, etc
4.  It ain't in the top 40 in the USA, so the chances of Americans even seeing or hearing this are about zero.

That all being said, I thought the music itself wasn't bad.  The chick singer was cute, but her vibrato made Tiny Tim sound like Sinatra.