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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: Kotowboy on October 02, 2020, 05:48:57 AM
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I'm not a fan but I appreciate how big they are.
But man, their new single sounds EXACTLY like you are expecting.
I don't know how they don't get tired of playing songs that all sound identical for 50 years...
Even the production. They're obviously doing it for the money now since Cliff had retired , Phil
was fired and Brian wasn't in the band either.
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That could have been on any album from Back In Black onwards. . .
That and it looks like the classic line up bar Malcolm are back together. I wouldnt want to be in a band with
Phil Rudd myself. Constant drug offences and rumoured to have tried to have someone killed...
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Jeeze, wonder why you even made the thread, almost sounds like you don't like ACDC :lol I'm looking forward to this. ACDC rocks and is always fun.
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What a strange and mean spirited thread.
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Yeah, kind of a weird opening post but ah well :lol
I'm no fan of the band at all, but if they should some live concerts in Vienna or anywhere near where I live, I'd probably go with a few friends, get drunk af and just party...
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I'm by no means an AC/DC fan/expert, my exposure has mostly come from my dad being a fan and what i've heard on the radio, but i don't really know much about the 'behind the scenes' so to speak. But from what i've heard, wasn't the origin for this album in particular that they had some leftover riffs from Malcolm Young? To me that feels more like trying to honor his memory and maybe going out with a last bang and having a send off album, and it doesn't sound like a 'lets put together an album quickly for some money' plan.
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They're an absolute cornerstone of heavy rock. All good luck to em, afaic.
But it's just a matter of taste regarding whether you think it's cool, right?
The song sounded of a good vibe and satisfying to me, from what you can tell by a short clip. Of course there's no surprises, they've been around forever, but they've been reasonably consistent in quality over their later years.
I'd put them in the middle of an arbitrary three-layer heavy-music-legacy-act club sandwich. Maiden right at the top - have nearly always been fantastic. ACDC in the middle - have been solid. And Metallica way down the bottom have almost completely sucked.
But all subjective opinion.
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I like a lot of AC/DC songs but I could never own a single album.
I've tried many time to get through an album. Gave Back In Black & Rock Or Bust & Black Ice a try..
But apart from the songs that everyone knows I couldn't get through them.
You'll never be disappointed if you're a fan - but you'll never be challenged either.
:)
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This is simply a matter of taste. I'm a pretty hard core AC/DC fan, and have been since about '81. I can tell you IMMEDIATELY a song that came from the High Voltage sessions and the Fly On The Wall sessions. IMMEDIATELY. The production IS different. The playing between Mark Evan and Cliff Williams, or Phil Rudd and Simon Wright IS different. No, you're not going to get a concept album on the perils and pitfalls of single-payer healthcare, but, like Kiss, the vibe and ethos is just different.
If it's not your thing, so be it, it's not your thing. I listen to Radiohead and every song is drony whining, with an off-hand bash at America or whoever our President is at the time for good measure. Drivel. Worse, BORING drivel. But I know full well, if I dug in, if I cared, if I wanted to understand the nuances, they are there. I think it's a cheap shot at AC/DC to assume that "it's the same song over and over for 50 years".
Me? I'm fired up to hear Phil, Angus, Brian and Cliff back together again. Assuming Phil can tour with them, I will go see that immediately (bring your earplugs, though).
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Well at least we both despise Radiohead :lol
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Well at least we both despise Radiohead :lol
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And I do. I wasn't kidding a little bit. :)
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Kotow does that mean you haven't heard giant megahits like Money Talks or Who Made Who or Thunderstruck? Even Heatseeker? Those songs all rule. Back In Black is arguably the greatest hard rock album of all time, but Rock or Bust and Black Ice are them a little over the hill and don't offer much to anyone except committed fans. Do you like any of the Bon Scott era?
ACDC is easy to make fun of but they're low hanging fruit 99% of the time. They're just fun, easy to listen to and enjoy hard rock, and if you ever try learning their riffs on a guitar, they're REALLY fun. When I had an electric guitar, some of the most fun I had was just repeating classic ACDC riffs until I got them down clean.
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I really like Back In Black. You Shook Me All Night Long. Highway To Hell. Rock N Roll Train.
Probably some others.
But my love of Radiohead began and ended with The Bends.
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I can't stand most Radiohead I've heard, except A Moon Shaped Pool which is :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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I know this is a thread for new Acka Dacka - but my love of Radiohead goes like this :
Pablo Honey 🤷🏼♂️
The Bends😍😍😍
Ok Computer 😊😊
Kid A 🤔
Amnesiac 🚪👈🏼
Hail To The Thief. In Rainbows. The King of Limbs. A Moon Shaped Pool etc etc etc 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
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Dang, dude, I thought one of them died and one of them went to prison or something. I assumed "Rock or Bust" was the send-off. Kudos to them for pulling out another one. :lol
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Dang, dude, I thought one of them died and one of them went to prison or something. I assumed "Rock or Bust" was the send-off. Kudos to them for pulling out another one. :lol
One - Malcolm - did die, and as far as I can tell, he's still dead. One - Phil Rudd - was charged with trying to have someone killed (not Malcolm) and suffering an alcohol/drug relapse. Apparently he righted the ship. If memory serves, he and Malcolm didn't always see eye-to-eye, so there may be some of that in here too.
I'm a big fan of Phil Rudd, so I think his return is as big as anything.
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If I remember correctly Phil Rudd was charged with trying to hire a killer to murder someone but he was never convicted. Instead he was sent to rehab after some more drug related scandals.
With AC/DC you know what you get and what you get is solid hard rock tunes. For something new and different I listen to other bands. I like the idea of putting out another record, probably as a swan song to end their career with a mostly classical line up.
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On top of what Stadler said, I would also add that I think there was a pretty dramatic shift in songwriting approach from Highway to Hell forward. Before mutt Lang came along, there used to be longer jams, extended intros, and multiple solo breaks. Soul Stripper, Let There Be Rock, and Riff Raff are good examples. Mutt Lange talked them into trimming the fat and sticking to the verse chorus format. Thunderstruck is the only modern day example of going back to the old formula that I can think of
EDIT - I also just remembered that Lange let them break from protocol for the title track of for those about to rock. But they also fought with him a lot on that album.
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I thought Some Sin For Nothing had a cool solo section. Seemed a bit elongated, Of course, that was Vanda And Young produced.
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I thought Some Sin For Nothing had a cool solo section. Seemed a bit elongated, Of course, that was Vanda And Young produced.
I love Blow Up Your Video so much. Totally underrated album. The mix is a bit echo-y...but it was the most classic sounding AC/DC album they did with Brian.
That album did actually sell pretty well. It had two hits and pulled them out of a slump. So I was a bit surprised they switched to Bruce Fairbain for Razors Edge. RE sounds better, but IMO had more duds than BUYV did.
EDIT - I really need to pull the trigger on an AC/DC album discussion series. Seems like there’s at least 4 or 5 people that would dig it, and that might attract some curious people.
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Razors Edge blows.
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EDIT - I really need to pull the trigger on an AC/DC album discussion series. Seems like there’s at least 4 or 5 people that would dig it, and that might attract some curious people.
Yeah, that'd be great. I'd follow, even though you're ignoring the UFO thread! :P
I probably have another 4 weeks tops for that, so there you go. You got a month to get it ready! ;D
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EDIT - I really need to pull the trigger on an AC/DC album discussion series. Seems like there’s at least 4 or 5 people that would dig it, and that might attract some curious people.
Yeah, that'd be great. I'd follow, even though you're ignoring the UFO thread! :P
I probably have another 4 weeks tops for that, so there you go. You got a month to get it ready! ;D
I usually follow things I’m already familiar with. Although, I admit that I have greatly been meaning to check out UFO.
A few people around these parts are aware of the fact that I have a fairly emotionally taxing personal life. Because of this, my participation in anything is usually either “all in” or “quiet wallflower” depending on what kind of week my wife is having. (The short version is that she has bipolar, PTSD, severe depression, and is considered handicapped due to extreme emotional trauma).
But I appreciate the nudge. I enjoy music so much that I look for any encouragement to participate in some thing that gets me away from everything. So maybe I’m gonna have to take some time this weekend and do a little catch-up on the UFO thread.
The problem is, I don’t own anything. But I suppose I could go digging for that box set that someone was mentioning that had the classic five or six albums in a slip board cover kind of thing. That’s how I got the early Kansas albums as well. You get them fairly cheap that way.
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I listened to the clip and it was exactly what I expected from AC/DC. I like them and ill be checking out the new stuff.
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Tim blows.
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Oh, and TAC, just so you’re aware. I actually HAVE been reading the UFO thread meticulously. :angel: ;D Taking in what people think so I have a basis for when I finally dive in. I just haven’t said anything because I don’t own anything and subsequently haven’t heard anything. :-[ :'(
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Oh, and TAC, just so you’re aware. I actually HAVE been reading the UFO thread meticulously. :angel: ;D Taking in what people think so I have a basis for when I finally dive in. I just haven’t said anything because I don’t own anything and subsequently haven’t heard anything. :-[ :'(
Well, that's why it's called a Listening Party. All album links are in the OP.
Michael Schenker rejoins UFO next week. It would be a great point to jump in!
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I am not a big ACDC guy, I own BiB and like most of the hits and love some of them, but have never taken a deep dive in to their catalog. They are one of a small handful of bands I wish I would have seen live when I could have easily done so, as the opportunity presented itself a couple times. I don't imagine a tour will follow if Brian had to cut out of the last one for health reasons. Glad Phil got his shit together apparently to get involved with the guys again.
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What’s funny is that I ran a music/video section at a department store from 96-00, and I got tons of promos in the process...many of which still sit in cardboard or paper sleeves, never having been listened to. One of those promos is Covenant. I will dig that out before the time comes so I have something to say.
But!!!
AC/DC!!!!
Carry on!! ;D :angel:
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Covenant is fantastic!
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I love pumping some AC/DC in my car. It's groovy and you know what you get. :metal
Excited for the new album.
Sidenote: It's also perfect music to play with my drumstudents because it's easy to find the beat and fun to play-along even if you're a beginner or more experienced. :tup
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I am not a big ACDC guy, I own BiB and like most of the hits and love some of them, but have never taken a deep dive in to their catalog. They are one of a small handful of bands I wish I would have seen live when I could have easily done so, as the opportunity presented itself a couple times. I don't imagine a tour will follow if Brian had to cut out of the last one for health reasons. Glad Phil got his shit together apparently to get involved with the guys again.
LOUD. By FAR the loudest concert I've ever been to, and I've seen Deep Purple twice, and Motorhead and Sabbath three times each.
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I love pumping some AC/DC in my car. It's groovy and you know what you get. :metal
Excited for the new album.
Sidenote: It's also perfect music to play with my drumstudents because it's easy to find the beat and fun to play-along even if you're a beginner or more experienced. :tup
Just don't get them to play along to Back In Black as they speed up so much in the chorus it's actually funny.
LOUD. By FAR the loudest concert I've ever been to, and I've seen Deep Purple twice, and Motorhead and Sabbath three times each.
There's really no need to be deafeningly loud. At some point it just becomes white noise and only does damage.
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I love pumping some AC/DC in my car. It's groovy and you know what you get. :metal
Excited for the new album.
Sidenote: It's also perfect music to play with my drumstudents because it's easy to find the beat and fun to play-along even if you're a beginner or more experienced. :tup
Just don't get them to play along to Back In Black as they speed up so much in the chorus it's actually funny.
LOUD. By FAR the loudest concert I've ever been to, and I've seen Deep Purple twice, and Motorhead and Sabbath three times each.
There's really no need to be deafeningly loud. At some point it just becomes white noise and only does damage.
I was 21 when I saw them, and in decent shape (I was still playing three sports fairly regularly) and the cannons in particular were so loud it hurt my chest. I thought my heart was going to stop. I took this girl from college I was into, and we spent the next day going "what?" to each other.
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It's so stupid. I stopped going to concerts as I worry about it. Even with plugs you just don't know...
Still - if you put your plugs in as you arrive at the venue - by the time the headliner are finally on - you've gotten used to the feeling of them being in
and the music actually sounds better.
I would always use earplugs at the local jam night If i was drumming as - for some reason - it blocked out all the harsh sound and it actually made the cymbals
more clear in my ears. Only problem was - If I was on guitar for a few songs - with plugs in - I couldnt hear myself at all.
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Although I rarely wear them, I have no problem with earplugs. To your point, I think bands have turned down a little bit; I've been to a couple shows now where it was actually pretty manageable.
I'll give this to Mike: most of his bands have excellent, balanced, reasonable venue sound. The days of a blistering treble-fest at a show seems to be over.
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Also - it's not specifically volume that does damage on its own - its way too much high end for long periods.
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I love pumping some AC/DC in my car. It's groovy and you know what you get. :metal
Excited for the new album.
Sidenote: It's also perfect music to play with my drumstudents because it's easy to find the beat and fun to play-along even if you're a beginner or more experienced. :tup
Just don't get them to play along to Back In Black as they speed up so much in the chorus it's actually funny.
Yea I know but as long as they play with the music it's alright. :)
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Never seen accdacca live, but the loudest band I have witnessed is Foreigner!
Yes that band best known for ballad and soft rockers, but in 1986 in Sydney they almost deafened me.
My ears were ringing for almost a month after and my hearing was never the same after.
I have also seen Manowar and Motorhead but Foreigner are still tops for my ear 'bleed'.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNhn1KOqq8g
SHOT IN THE DARK
POWER UP
(https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/rBzfhzbQ6UfDkzt7Houz57-650-80.jpg)
Realize
Rejection
Shot in the Dark
Through the Mists of Time
Kick You When You’re Down
Witch’s Spell
Demon Fire
Wild Reputation
No Man’s Land
Systems Down
Money Shot
Code Red
Not one 'rock' title to be seen ! ;D
Also - Brian Johnson confirmed that Malcolm's ideas appear - but he does not appear on the album himself.
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That's a cool album cover.
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Those song titles are very un - AC/DC. Apart from Money Shot :biggrin:
The first two could be Pearl Jam and the rest a power metal album :biggrin:
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Those song titles are very un - AC/DC. Apart from Money Shot :biggrin:
The first two could be Pearl Jam and the rest a power metal album :biggrin:
I'm hoping.... CONCEPT ALBUM! This is AC/DC's "Music From... The Elder"!!! :)
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The first three songs are about a "dramatic turn of events": you realize something is wrong, you get rejected by society and this situation is like a shot in the dark.
Then the protagonist travels through the mists of time and finds himself in a strange and hostile lands, where they kick you when you're down and there are witches and demons. He eventually adapts, makes a wild reputation of himself and rules no mand's land.
The climax involves a technology system being down, money of course is always involved and it all ends with a Code Red - a cliffhanger which will lead in their next EP, which will contain a 21 minutes long song to wrap up the story :metal
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Dude, you had me at "the first three songs". I'm in!!!!
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Those song titles are very un - AC/DC. Apart from Money Shot :biggrin:
The first two could be Pearl Jam and the rest a power metal album :biggrin:
I'm hoping.... CONCEPT ALBUM! This is AC/DC's "Music From... The Elder"!!! :)
It's music from FIVE Elders actually.
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Feels like 1980 again.
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Feels like 1980 again.
and again. and again. and again.....etc...
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Those song titles are very un - AC/DC. Apart from Money Shot :biggrin:
The first two could be Pearl Jam and the rest a power metal album :biggrin:
I'm hoping.... CONCEPT ALBUM! This is AC/DC's "Music From... The Elder"!!! :)
It's music from FIVE Elders actually.
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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This thread has inspired me to make a thread of how much I dislike Green Day.
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Is that aimed at me ? Cause I don't think I said I *HATE* AC/DC.
It was more about how every single album they do sounds the same.
If someone can point me in the direction of an AC/DC album that doesn't sound like Back In Black again i'll have a listen.
And I don't mean production. I mean just 12 more songs that could have been on any other album before or since.
I really like Rock N Roll Train. You Shook Me All night Long. Back in Black. Thunderstruck. Highway to Hell. There's probably more...
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I say this respectfully, because I appreciate your position, but having said that, I also feel that anything that is sent will be "but that's the same". High Voltage - either the US/UK version or the Australian version - doesn't sound anything like Back In Black. Dirty Deeds; there's nothing like Ride On or Love At First Feel or Ain't No Fun... on Back In Black.
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Is that aimed at me ? Cause I don't think I said I *HATE* AC/DC.
It was more about how every single album they do sounds the same.
If someone can point me in the direction of an AC/DC album that doesn't sound like Back In Black again i'll have a listen.
And I don't mean production. I mean just 12 more songs that could have been on any other album before or since.
I really like Rock N Roll Train. You Shook Me All night Long. Back in Black. Thunderstruck. Highway to Hell. There's probably more...
I never said "hate", and I don't even disagree with you. I just like teasing you. I still really dislike Green Day though.
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That's fair enough.
I don't make fun of people for their music tastes. Just the acts themselves.
I still think Green Day P*ss on the Offspring though :p
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That's fair enough.
I don't make fun of people for their music tastes. Just the acts themselves.
I still think Green Day P*ss on the Offspring though :p
I will end you.
I stopped following The Offspring after 2008, when they decided to move next door to Green Day in Sucksville, California.
I wish I could say even at their worst they're better than Green Day, but they've fallen so far that I can't anymore.
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What Stadler said was very true. Many of the early albums in my opinion sound nothing like back in black.
Additionally, Rolling Stone had an article that said that Angus had pulled all of these songs from ideas he and Malcolm had had together and that Malcolm is getting song writing credit on every track of the album.
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I just heard the full track. A bit “safe”, but singles usually are.
Even though there are many songs I love post-Powerage, I have found myself wondering why Angus doesn’t “go off” a bit more and come up with some longer jams like they did in the old days. With as much as they disliked Mutt’s pushing them to be more commercial, I would have thought they would go back to the old song writing formula they had before him (at least once in awhile). But it’s been pretty much standard anthems for awhile now.
Kotowboy...do me a favor and go listen to Soul Stripper. If you like that, try Let There Be Rock. Those are about as different from BIB as TA is from TOT.
It’s funny to me that people think they always sound like BIB because to me that is an extremely different sounding album to my ears. When I hear early AC/DC (even HTH), I hear the greatest, loudest, rudest, barroom party band around. Think “beer drinkers and hell raisers” turned up to 11. But while HTH, feels like one last final party with your buddy before he says goodbye...BIB feels like visiting his grave on a rainy night and having a decaying hand shoot up from the ground and grab your leg at the stroke of midnight. Even with the party tracks, the entire album just has a more “sinister” feel to it. Like you’re now partying with Bon Scott’s corpse and it feels a little “creepy”
[laughs nervously] heh he....soooooooooo you’re back then! Hey that’s kinda...oh wait I can pick up that ear for you. No seriously it’s no trouble. Does that happen a lot? The body parts falling of thi....sorry you don’t want to talk about that....so uh...death huh? What a SOB, amirite??
And so on...
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Weekend at Bonnies
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What Stadler said was very true. Many of the early albums in my opinion sound nothing like back in black.
Additionally, Rolling Stone had an article that said that Angus had pulled all of these songs from ideas he and Malcolm had had together and that Malcolm is getting song writing credit on every track of the album.
I'm not a big ACDC fan, but to me it's always seemed like it's just the post-Back in Black albums that sound kinda samey.
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As a musician - I don't know how you write a song like Rock n Roll Train for example and not go " It's a bit Highway To Hell isn't it guys ? "
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What Stadler said was very true. Many of the early albums in my opinion sound nothing like back in black.
Additionally, Rolling Stone had an article that said that Angus had pulled all of these songs from ideas he and Malcolm had had together and that Malcolm is getting song writing credit on every track of the album.
I'm not a big ACDC fan, but to me it's always seemed like it's just the post-Back in Black albums that sound kinda samey.
With some mild variations, I agree. For those about to rock had a bit more of a bombastic production. Flick of the switch was obviously more stripped down. But they have kind of stuck to the verse and chorus set up ever since.
The older songs that I have cited previously are quite a bit different. not in a complete different style kind of way. But in song structure, yes.
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As a musician - I don't know how you write a song like Rock n Roll Train for example and not go " It's a bit Highway To Hell isn't it guys ? "
Yeah, that tends to be their schtick now. Did you happen to check out the older songs I suggested?
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Not yet but I will. :)
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I enjoy AC/DC's music, but I'm always satiated by listening to AC/DC live. Never felt a particular pull to dive into their studio albums.
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What Stadler said was very true. Many of the early albums in my opinion sound nothing like back in black.
Additionally, Rolling Stone had an article that said that Angus had pulled all of these songs from ideas he and Malcolm had had together and that Malcolm is getting song writing credit on every track of the album.
I'm not a big ACDC fan, but to me it's always seemed like it's just the post-Back in Black albums that sound kinda samey.
With some mild variations, I agree. For those about to rock had a bit more of a bombastic production. Flick of the switch was obviously more stripped down. But they have kind of stuck to the verse and chorus set up ever since.
The older songs that I have cited previously are quite a bit different. not in a complete different style kind of way. But in song structure, yes.
I'd push back slightly on that; "Blow Up Your Video" is a singular album. I think some of the songs on that record have a different feel to them that goes beyond just the production.
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I want to buy this just for the case.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0jN_fnZTNk
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What Stadler said was very true. Many of the early albums in my opinion sound nothing like back in black.
Additionally, Rolling Stone had an article that said that Angus had pulled all of these songs from ideas he and Malcolm had had together and that Malcolm is getting song writing credit on every track of the album.
I'm not a big ACDC fan, but to me it's always seemed like it's just the post-Back in Black albums that sound kinda samey.
With some mild variations, I agree. For those about to rock had a bit more of a bombastic production. Flick of the switch was obviously more stripped down. But they have kind of stuck to the verse and chorus set up ever since.
The older songs that I have cited previously are quite a bit different. not in a complete different style kind of way. But in song structure, yes.
I'd push back slightly on that; "Blow Up Your Video" is a singular album. I think some of the songs on that record have a different feel to them that goes beyond just the production.
But of course, that was the the return of the Vanda & Young production team that had produced all the early albums. Still can't figure out why they didn't stick with them since that album was initially considered quite a big comeback after the failure of Fly on the Wall.
EDIT - Having said that, it still seems to be more "streamlined" than the early Vanda/Young albums. But it is IMO probably the 2nd best if not THE best Brian Johnson album because of the return of Vanda/Young. Just wish Phil would have come back around this time. Not that Simon didn't do a great job. But you could definitely tell that he tried to do something different with FOTW and it didn't work out, so the band told him to stick to just the groove and that's why I think he later decided he'd rather play with Dio.
I want to buy this just for the case.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0jN_fnZTNk
I actually pre-ordered it. Couldn't resist.
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Thinking back on the different producers and sounds that AC/DC has had, made me reflect on the fact that Stiff Upper Lip has actually aged surprisingly well. I had such high hopes for Ballbreaker (I usually like nearly anything Rick Rubin touches, and the Big Gun single really raised the bar of my expectations) but that album ultimately disappointed me. But I think they really did work best when older brother George was turning the dials. Too bad he also died around the same time as Malcolm.
I really do like the new single...but I'm skeptical about the return of Brendan O'Brien. I really didn't like Black Ice at all. The sound was all wrong for AC/DC. I honestly don't know how they recorded it, but it sounds like they have the band plugged directly into the board, and there's just something about the AC/DC sound where I feel like it is vital to let them plug into tube amps and set up mics. Plugging into the board just kills it. And I'm not sure that old sound is something that can be recreated by plugging into the board. It just sounds too "clean" to be AC/DC.
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AC/DC - Shot In The Dark (Official Video) (https://youtu.be/54LEywabkl4)
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BJ looks great and for a 72 year old man, he has great energy and moves.
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LOVE IT
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BJ looks great and for a 72 year old man, he has great energy and moves.
I had the exact same thoughts, and honestly he sounds better than on the singles for the last album imo. It's impressive especially with that kind of voice.
I like this single more than the ones for Rock or Bust. It's ACDC by the numbers but ACDC can get away with that. The Jim Breuer bit on ACDC is hilarious largely because it's true, they could literally play ACDC riffs while singing the phone book and it would rock. I kind of want to run through their discography, haven't done that since I was a teenager I think, but I know I'd burn out by Fly On The Wall :lol
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It’s AC/DC by numbers but it still sounds great and puts a smile on my face. I have a similar thing with AC/DC and Megadeth in that I’m a bit of a greatest hits fan and that’s not like me at all. I’ve seen Megadeth live a number of times and really enjoy their big tunes. As soon as I start digging into the album tracks though, I lose interest. AC/DC are the same.
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Holy shit it sounds just like AC/DC! :lol
BJ looks great and for a 72 year old man, he has great energy and moves.
He's now 73. My father is 74, and I'm thinking ..there's no fucking way. :lol
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You guys want to see some great Brian Johnson moves, check this out. I slagged the look of this band in The Cool Thread, but holy shit, this song is amazing!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXmHD4QVYXE
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I really enjoyed that. Definitely by the numbers AC/DC and that's what makes it so much fun to listen to. Been a while since I've put on their albums, might work myself backwards into their discography.
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You guys want to see some great Brian Johnson moves, check this out. I slagged the look of this band in The Cool Thread, but holy shit, this song is amazing!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXmHD4QVYXE
Anyone notice that the guitarist was playing a cherry red Gibson SG? :metal
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You guys want to see some great Brian Johnson moves, check this out. I slagged the look of this band in The Cool Thread, but holy shit, this song is amazing!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXmHD4QVYXE
I have a CD of Geordie songs and they're way better than they should be. I love Brian's voice when he sings sings, instead of using his AC/DC voice.
Also it was cool that Geddy Lee let Julian Lennon use his bass. ;) :)
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I had this when I was a kid, it's a collection of Geordie songs. I remember loving the version of House Of The Rising Sun.
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Honestly I would've never noticed that was Brain singing with Geordie if I hadn't known it beforehand.
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https://t.co/BrzGwNrbmw?amp=1
Snippet of new single Demon Fire.
Riff is pretty cool but the chorus is literally A D and G again :yarr
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https://t.co/BrzGwNrbmw?amp=1
Snippet of new single Demon Fire.
Riff is pretty cool but the chorus is literally A D and G again :yarr
So?
I'll be honest, I've openly complained that certain bands just repeat themselves a lot recently. Amaranthe, Kamelot, etc. But I complain because they also constantly say how they're pushing the boundaries of their sound on every album and always changing things. But they're not. It's annoying.
But ACDC? I think they've been pretty open about what they do. Not sure why it's an issue. It's like complaining that Metallica chugs on E (or Eb)...obviously. They're Metallica. They've never said they're going to do anything else.
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I find it odd that, in the year 2020, someone's irritated by AC/DC repeating themselves. They've been at it for four decades now. We all know what to expect.
Shot in the dark is prety great, bring on the album. :tup
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I'll give the album a listen sure.
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I feel like with some bands like AC/DC or Iron Maiden (just to name 2 examples) there's almost an understanding between the bands and the fans where the bands keep doing what they have always done and they don't try to make it sound like they are reinventing the wheel, and the fans in return find comfort in knowing what they are getting.
For me there are bands where I'm curious to see what they will do next and I almost expect a change with each album, but with some bands there's just something quaint about bands sticking to their sound.
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When I do finally do my AC DC album discussion thread, I will get a little deeper into it. But even though there are similarities and a common sound, I find many of the albums to be very very different.
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I don't fully mind if there's some lack of innovation in each of a band's albums (well, from a listening perspective, not an artistic one, but I doubt AC/DC claim to be profound artists), but I feel that there should at least be some sense of excitement if that's the case. Black Ice had a great sense of that (especially in songs like Anything Goes), & Rock Or Bust was alright for some songs, but the new singles just feel flat & boring to me. Maybe I've just been too overexposed to the band's sound growing up to care anymore (thanks dad :P), but like, I just cannot imagine them playing Shot In The Dark & the crowd going gaga over it like they would for Whole Lotta Rosie or Hell's Bells or You Shook Me All Night Long or For Those About To Rock. When there's not that excitement factor, & the compositions have very little to offer, it just makes me wonder what this is appealing to besides name recognition. :-\
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Once in awhile they really recapture something special. Stiff Upper Lip has aged better than I thought it would the last time I heard it. Meltdown IMO deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as many of the classics, but I can’t put my finger on why.
The problem is that the older albums are wall to wall classics. The newer albums tend to just have a few standouts with a few phoned in tracks. And then peoples collective nostalgia factor comes into play. We get pushed Hells Bells so often that everyone forgets what a fantastic song Nervous Shakedown is. But I would lay just as much blame at the feet of the Young brothers...who I imagine are mostly to blame for the static setlists.
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Stiff Upper Lip has aged better than I thought it would the last time I heard it.
You mentioned this last week. I'm going to have to check that put once the UFO thread is done. I also want to revisit Black Ice, which I thought was excellent, though 3 or 4 songs too long.
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Stiff Upper Lip has aged better than I thought it would the last time I heard it.
You mentioned this last week. I'm going to have to check that put once the UFO thread is done. I also want to revisit Black Ice, which I thought was excellent, though 3 or 4 songs too long.
Like most of the modern stuff, it has its duds. But I personally love the whole front half of the album, and Satellite Blues, Damned, and All Screwed Up aren’t bad either
EDIT - hard to believe we are as far removed from that album as that album was from back in black when it came out.
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I've always been far removed from Stiff Upper Lip. :lol
But on your recommendation, I'm going to give it a spin.
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I feel like with some bands like AC/DC or Iron Maiden (just to name 2 examples) there's almost an understanding between the bands and the fans where the bands keep doing what they have always done and they don't try to make it sound like they are reinventing the wheel, and the fans in return find comfort in knowing what they are getting.
For me there are bands where I'm curious to see what they will do next and I almost expect a change with each album, but with some bands there's just something quaint about bands sticking to their sound.
I vehemently disagree with that assessment of Iron Maiden. AC/DC, yes, but not Iron Maiden. Find me ONE SONG in the pre-reunion era that sounds like something off The Final Frontier.
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I feel like with some bands like AC/DC or Iron Maiden (just to name 2 examples) there's almost an understanding between the bands and the fans where the bands keep doing what they have always done and they don't try to make it sound like they are reinventing the wheel, and the fans in return find comfort in knowing what they are getting.
For me there are bands where I'm curious to see what they will do next and I almost expect a change with each album, but with some bands there's just something quaint about bands sticking to their sound.
I vehemently disagree with that assessment of Iron Maiden. AC/DC, yes, but not Iron Maiden. Find me ONE SONG in the pre-reunion era that sounds like something off The Final Frontier.
I agree with your point, but I've always felt that The Alchemist was kind of a tribute to the Paul Di'Anno era (namely Purgatory).
But yeah, AC/DC & Iron Maiden aren't even in the same ballpark when it comes to recycling shit.
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I feel like with some bands like AC/DC or Iron Maiden (just to name 2 examples) there's almost an understanding between the bands and the fans where the bands keep doing what they have always done and they don't try to make it sound like they are reinventing the wheel, and the fans in return find comfort in knowing what they are getting.
For me there are bands where I'm curious to see what they will do next and I almost expect a change with each album, but with some bands there's just something quaint about bands sticking to their sound.
I vehemently disagree with that assessment of Iron Maiden. AC/DC, yes, but not Iron Maiden. Find me ONE SONG in the pre-reunion era that sounds like something off The Final Frontier.
I agree with your point, but I've always felt that The Alchemist was kind of a tribute to the Paul Di'Anno era (namely Purgatory).
But yeah, AC/DC & Iron Maiden aren't even in the same ballpark when it comes to recycling shit.
Maiden is more about recycling their setlists but that's a diffrent topic.
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WOW, I've never seen this before. Classic Footage!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvFxTpnxk8s
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Awesome!
Just curious, did anyone here see AC/DC during the 70s with Bon?
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I wanted to let everyone here know that I just found some cheap copies (they might be bootlegs, but whatever) of the Australian versions of High Voltage, Dirty Deeds, and Let There Be Rock. I already own the Australian album TNT, so this will complete my collection of all the early albums the way they were originally released.
They should be arriving about the same time as the release date on the new album. So right around that time, I am hoping to begin an album discussion thread beginning with the Australian version of High Voltage. Look for it in the next few weeks. Hope everyone can chime in.
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I think all of the songs on our High Voltage were released officially over the years internationally, but having them all in one place as intended is definitely better.
Also, any copy of Dirty Deeds that doesn't contain Jailbreak should be considered defective. ;D
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I think all of the songs on our High Voltage were released officially over the years internationally, but having them all in one place as intended is definitely better.
Also, any copy of Dirty Deeds that doesn't contain Jailbreak should be considered defective. ;D
You're technically right, but Stick Around & Love Song have never been released on international High Voltage nor 74 Jailbreak. Instead, their international release was relegated to some 3CD compilation called Backtracks which wasn't released until 2009.
The regional differences are honestly really stupid. :lol
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I think all of the songs on our High Voltage were released officially over the years internationally, but having them all in one place as intended is definitely better.
Also, any copy of Dirty Deeds that doesn't contain Jailbreak should be considered defective. ;D
If I had known that there was an Aussie on board... I might’ve just arranged for some sort of mail in option. Just to make sure I was getting the real thing. As it is, these are coming from New York City, but they were only 15 bucks each which seems suspicious. most of the original Albert production Australian releases go for over $100 or sometimes more
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I think all of the songs on our High Voltage were released officially over the years internationally, but having them all in one place as intended is definitely better.
Also, any copy of Dirty Deeds that doesn't contain Jailbreak should be considered defective. ;D
If I had known that there was an Aussie on board... I might’ve just arranged for some sort of mail in option. Just to make sure I was getting the real thing. As it is, these are coming from New York City, but they were only 15 bucks each which seems suspicious. most of the original Albert production Australian releases go for over $100 or sometimes more
CD or vinyl?
I have the Backtracks set; there is a two-CD and a three-CD version. The 3CD set not only has the songs we're talking about - Love Song and Stick Around - but also some of the released songs are in different versions. Mostly length (fades versus hard endings) but there are some other differences.
I'm not all in on some of the AC/DC releases (you have to buy the vinyl to get the deluxe 3CD version) but the material on that Backtracks set is ESSENTIAL, even the live stuff.
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I picked them up on CD. But they are the original releases. For their price, I suspect they might be knock offs but we’ll see when they get here.
Like I said, I already found TNT as an import at a local CD shop. So I already had that one.
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I picked them up on CD. But they are the original releases. For their price, I suspect they might be knock offs but we’ll see when they get here.
Like I said, I already found TNT as an import at a local CD shop. So I already had that one.
I don't know about DD or TNT, but High Voltage was released on CD in Australia/New Zealand in the mid '90's.
That's my favorite era of AC/DC. I still have the HV, DD, and TNT originals on vinyl, even though I can't/don't play them. I ripped Backtracks to my iPod and I probably listen to that as much or more than the main albums (I reordered the songs into the "albums", so I can dial up "High Voltage [Australian Version]" and hear it like I remember it.
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If I had known that there was an Aussie on board... I might’ve just arranged for some sort of mail in option. Just to make sure I was getting the real thing. As it is, these are coming from New York City, but they were only 15 bucks each which seems suspicious. most of the original Albert production Australian releases go for over $100 or sometimes more
They probably aren't any easier to find even over here anymore. At some point between Stiff Upper Lip and Black Ice they reissued everything again and replaced the original releases here with the international versions. I remember buying Black Ice from a store in 2008, and those were all that was there.
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If I had known that there was an Aussie on board... I might’ve just arranged for some sort of mail in option. Just to make sure I was getting the real thing. As it is, these are coming from New York City, but they were only 15 bucks each which seems suspicious. most of the original Albert production Australian releases go for over $100 or sometimes more
They probably aren't any easier to find even over here anymore. At some point between Stiff Upper Lip and Black Ice they reissued everything again and replaced the original releases here with the international versions. I remember buying Black Ice from a store in 2008, and those were all that was there.
Well the good news is that my CDs arrived yesterday and they are in fact the real deal! I couldn’t be happier! They are all the older (non-remastered) Albert CDs with the Australian versions of all the songs and they sound fantastic. I’m starting to wonder if the seller even knew what he had.
The one bummer is that a little bit of research caused me to discover that my version of TNT that I had found in a CD shop a couple of months ago was a newer remastered version, which has some extremely minor differences in the ending of Rocker and High Voltage. Namely, they used the international versions which fade out slightly earlier. I know this is almost completely insignificant, but I still decided to go hunting for an older version of TNT that uses the original versions. I found one used for 10 bucks and decided to go for it. How freakin OCD is that? :rollin
That means the only studio albums that I don’t own a physical copy of are Flick of the Switch, Who Made Who, and Rock or Bust, all of which should be easy to find and have no alternative or rare versions. FOTS and WMW I’ve heard a kajillion times, but ROB and the new one will both be new to my ears when I go to do the album discussion.
And speaking of the new one, my limited edition is arriving on Monday. Which is a bit of a bummer considering that I did pre-order it, but at least it has shipped.
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I went to Wal-Mart first thing this morning to pick up a couple CDs, one for me and one for my dad (ACDC is his favorite band), but... Wal-Mart had no CDs. Amazing. Or, more accurately, they had a tiny handful of CDs, and a small collection of vinyl from big bands (Metallica, Steve Miller Band etc.). No Power Up CDs, but plenty of Power Up vinyl... so I bought one!
Great album.
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If I had known that there was an Aussie on board... I might’ve just arranged for some sort of mail in option. Just to make sure I was getting the real thing. As it is, these are coming from New York City, but they were only 15 bucks each which seems suspicious. most of the original Albert production Australian releases go for over $100 or sometimes more
They probably aren't any easier to find even over here anymore. At some point between Stiff Upper Lip and Black Ice they reissued everything again and replaced the original releases here with the international versions. I remember buying Black Ice from a store in 2008, and those were all that was there.
Well the good news is that my CDs arrived yesterday and they are in fact the real deal! I couldn’t be happier! They are all the older (non-remastered) Albert CDs with the Australian versions of all the songs and they sound fantastic. I’m starting to wonder if the seller even knew what he had.
The one bummer is that a little bit of research caused me to discover that my version of TNT that I had found in a CD shop a couple of months ago was a newer remastered version, which has some extremely minor differences in the ending of Rocker and High Voltage. Namely, they used the international versions which fade out slightly earlier. I know this is almost completely insignificant, but I still decided to go hunting for an older version of TNT that uses the original versions. I found one used for 10 bucks and decided to go for it. How freakin OCD is that? :rollin
That means the only studio albums that I don’t own a physical copy of are Flick of the Switch, Who Made Who, and Rock or Bust, all of which should be easy to find and have no alternative or rare versions. FOTS and WMW I’ve heard a kajillion times, but ROB and the new one will both be new to my ears when I go to do the album discussion.
And speaking of the new one, my limited edition is arriving on Monday. Which is a bit of a bummer considering that I did pre-order it, but at least it has shipped.
Depends; the digipak remasters from... 2003 I think it is, are a lot hotter. I have both for FOTS and WMW, and while it isn't deal-breaker territory (it IS on the earlier work; the High Voltage and DDDDC in particular are so much hotter it ruins some of the feel/vibe/tone of the original) it IS noticeable, so if that matters to you, get the original Atlantic versions. You ought to be able to find them relatively cheaply on Discogs.
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Good to know.
One other thing, the really really rare find is the 1994 remaster of let there be rock. Somehow they got their hands on a longer version of Go Down. The international version also fades out early. I don’t even think the Australian version has that. It was only on the 1994 remaster from Atco and was reverted back to the fade out version on the later remasters.
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Gave most of the new songs a listen today, enjoyed most of them quite a bit. Current favorite, the song with the most un-ACDC like title: Through the Mists of Time.
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By AC/DC standards, this is a very nice album. Think I might binge-listen to them today. It's been a long time since I went back to the lesser beloved albums from the 70s and 80s.
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I didn't realize it was out already. Looking forward to hearing it. I thought Black Ice, though too long, was pretty good, as was Rock Or Bust.
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By AC/DC standards, this is a very nice album. Think I might binge-listen to them today. It's been a long time since I went back to the lesser beloved albums from the 70s and 80s.
I'd love to hear your thoughts. High Voltage is a personal favorite with a LOT of nostalgia. Not to go deep, but if I'm ever in sort of a funk, or in a "pity potty" mood, I put that on and it just makes me happy. It's silly (bagpipes!) fun but with a dark side, and there's some really good music buried in there. Dirty Deeds is close ("get your fucking jumbo jet off my airport!").
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By AC/DC standards, this is a very nice album. Think I might binge-listen to them today. It's been a long time since I went back to the lesser beloved albums from the 70s and 80s.
I'd love to hear your thoughts. High Voltage is a personal favorite with a LOT of nostalgia. Not to go deep, but if I'm ever in sort of a funk, or in a "pity potty" mood, I put that on and it just makes me happy. It's silly (bagpipes!) fun but with a dark side, and there's some really good music buried in there. Dirty Deeds is close ("get your fucking jumbo jet off my airport!").
Good timing folks. I've got some whirlwind stuff going on right now...but later tonight after all my running around is done, I plan on starting the Album Discussion/Listening Party thread. Still debating on whether to make the pre-album days its own discussion, or just include it as a prologue to the discussion of High Voltage '75.
As stated before, I will be going by the Australian releases. While many of you may not own these releases, most of the songs were eventually released in other forms in the US, and the handful of songs that didn't are fairly easy to find and make for a more interesting discussion of the band's history and growth (IMO opinion anyway).
I'm going to take a page from Orbert's book and not give an in depth review or "song by song" outline, but I will try to rip some highlights from Wiki and dig more into the making of the album and my general thoughts about the album.
I will say that hearing the songs in their original format and release order is a very different experience and felt much more like an organic path forward than some of the patchwork releases that we are so used to in the states. Short version, I instantly liked the Australian releases better, in spite of my nostalgia for the releases I'm used to.
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Listening Party™ is, as you can see, trademarked.....but I'll let you use it! ;D
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Listening Party™ is, as you can see, trademarked.....but I'll let you use it! ;D
:rollin :rollin :rollin
You’re too kind! Thank you!
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I will say that if this new album was Brian, Angus, Stevie, Chris Slade, and a session bassist, I'd probably ignore it. But having Phil and Cliff there authenticates it for me.
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I will say that if this new album was Brian, Angus, Stevie, Chris Slade, and a session bassist, I'd probably ignore it. But having Phil and Cliff there authenticates it for me.
I completely agree.
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Power Up is actually pretty decent. Brian Johnson sounds amazing, and I like that you can clearly hear the rhythm and bass guitars.
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Yeah, I was really impressed with Brian's performance.
I ran thru a bunch of AC/DC yesterday... almost all of the Scott-era stuff, as well as Black Ice and Ballbreaker. I'll save my thoughts for the Listening PartyTM
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I listened today. This is a much better album than Black Ice. Lots of good riffs. It instantly made me feel upbeat. A perfect album for Covid relief.
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Yeah, I was really impressed with Brian's performance.
I heard Moneytalks on the radio yesterday,, and Brian sounded like absolute shit.
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Yeah, I was really impressed with Brian's performance.
I heard Moneytalks on the radio yesterday,, and Brian sounded like absolute shit.
This sentence drops you down a few notches in the classic rock world, sorry Tim
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That album blows anyway.
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Yeah, I was really impressed with Brian's performance.
I heard Moneytalks on the radio yesterday,, and Brian sounded like absolute shit.
This sentence drops you down a few notches in the classic rock world, sorry Tim
No shit. I don't think I've ever heard that combination of words in a sentence before. What the fark, Tim? Perfect use of Spongebob though :lol
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Jesus H. I didn't think that would be so controversial. :lol
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Tim’s drunk as f@&k (Jim Lahey level), cut him some slack
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Who in the hell is Jim Lahey? :lol
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Who in the hell is Jim Lahey? :lol
Chad and myself are rolling our eyes big time
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Jesus H. I didn't think that would be so controversial. :lol
It's Moneytalks ffs!!
Tim’s drunk as f@&k (Jim Lahey level), cut him some slack
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Who in the hell is Jim Lahey? :lol
:rollin
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It's Moneytalks ffs!!
No kidding! Who are you people? :lol
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A French maid, foreign chef! :lol
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I could understand finding Brian Johnson's vocal style annoying in some songs. Moneytalks is not one of them.
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It's Moneytalks ffs!!
No kidding! Who are you people? :lol
Tim dress up like Indianapolis Jones and get ready for the community play while listening to the Razors fkn Edge :metal
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All kidding aside, I’ve always thought the title track to The Razors Edge is one of the coolest Brian era songs.
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All kidding aside, I’ve always thought the title track to The Razors Edge is one of the coolest Brian era songs.
:tup
Brian and Angus were on the Aussie version of 60 Minutes last night and were in very good form. Good to see them so happy (the loss of Malcolm aside)
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All kidding aside, I’ve always thought the title track to The Razors Edge is one of the coolest Brian era songs.
It's a cool song. Other than Thunderstruck, the only song I remember really liking. But I found that album extremely disappointing. Been ages since I have heard it.
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Maybe one day concerts can happen again and they can tour the new album :metal
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All kidding aside, I’ve always thought the title track to The Razors Edge is one of the coolest Brian era songs.
It's a cool song. Other than Thunderstruck, the only song I remember really liking. But I found that album extremely disappointing. Been ages since I have heard it.
For me, the albums after The Razors Edge were disappointing
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Maybe one day concerts can happen again and they can tour the new album :metal
Also - they're successful enough that they can film one of their stadium shows - and show it in as many cinemas as they are able to globally.
I'm unsure why more bands don't do this. I know cinemas generally take 50% of the gross but still. . .
If you sell out the stadium AND all the cinemas showing the gig ( proshot obviously ) - that would be even more money.
You could even sell merch in the cinema foyer. Go the whole hog.
I saw David Gilmours Return to Pompeii concert in the cinema and S&M2 ( and Foo Fighters Wasting Light live from 606 ) - and they were all great. You get to see a full concert without the
ballache of having to travel to the gig etc etc and you get a nice comfy chair and can still have snacks and everyone gets the best view...
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All kidding aside, I’ve always thought the title track to The Razors Edge is one of the coolest Brian era songs.
It's a cool song. Other than Thunderstruck, the only song I remember really liking. But I found that album extremely disappointing. Been ages since I have heard it.
For me, the STUDIO albums after The Razors Edge were disappointing
Fix'd. I'm with Jay on this. I felt they lost the plot a little after For Those About To Rock. Fly and Flick aren't terribly memorable for me. Who Made Who/Shake Your Foundation were pretty good singles. Then Blow Up Your Video and Razor's Edge brought them back on course. After that, I lost them again - I was at Uni, and didn't buy a whole lot of any music for four years - and then shortly after graduating, discovered Dream Theater.
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However I should mention that Big Gun from Last Action Hero is a major kick ass tune
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Flick Of The Switch has aged really well.
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I know Stadler is with me on this, but BUYV was the last album where I loved every song. I think at least part of the reason that album is so good is because they brought back Vanda/Young to produce for the first time since Powerage.
The Razor’s Edge has high highs, but some stinkers as well. Big Guns gave me extremely high hopes for working with Rubin...but Ballbreaker was a bust.
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I think Blow Up Your Video is awesome. Maybe it’s due to the fact that you never really hear any of the songs anywhere and it’s kind of a forgotten AC/DC album.
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After For Those About To Rock, I'm pretty much okay with one or two songs per ACDC album. If that. Power Up is honestly the first ACDC album since FTATR that I really dig the whole record. BUYP has Heatseeker, but beyond that, I don't like it.
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BUYV is amazing.
Power Up, unfortunately, is not.
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BUYV is amazing.
Power Up, unfortunately, is not.
God you are so backwards. :lol
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Flick Of The Switch has aged really well.
You bet it did. :tup
I am starting to have a good time spinning the new album, actually. The first listen was a chore to get through. The second one was better, but I got a bit drowsy halfway through. However, on the third listen, I started to vibe with it. I am looking forward to giving it another go tomorrow.
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Flick Of The Switch has aged really well.
You bet it did. :tup
I am starting to have a good time spinning the new album, actually. The first listen was a chore to get through. The second one was better, but I got a bit drowsy halfway through. However, on the third listen, I started to vibe with it. I am looking forward to giving it another go tomorrow.
My first listen was much better than the second. I couldn't brink myself to listen to it again last night, so I played Black Ice instead.
I'll give it another shot tonight though. I do like Trough the Mists Of Time and Demon Fire.
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I'm all in on BUYV. Top three AC/DC album for me.
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However I should mention that Big Gun from Last Action Hero is a major kick ass tune
agreed one of my favs but 99% are my favs : )
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Yeah, Razor's Edge was a return to form imo, their records after that were just solid.
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If Black Ice didn't exist, I'd be comfortable with pretending the band broke up after 1990.
Power Up does not challenge that opinion. :sadpanda:
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Not going to quote people but just throwing out some opinions based on recent posts:
Razor's Edge has some of their best songs IMO, but there's only a few of them, it mostly just contains some of their most uninspired work.
I've always liked Flick of the Switch and thought it was underrated, but I never could get into the later 80's albums (Fly on the Wall or BUYV). BUYV is a very strong contender to be my least favourite Brian Johnson era album.
Ballbreaker I think is even more underrated, I actually like it quite a lot.
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Not going to quote people but just throwing out some opinions based on recent posts:
Razor's Edge has some of their best songs IMO, but there's only a few of them, it mostly just contains some of their most uninspired work.
I've always liked Flick of the Switch and thought it was underrated, but I never could get into the later 80's albums (Fly on the Wall or BUYV). BUYV is a very strong contender to be my least favourite Brian Johnson era album.
Ballbreaker I think is even more underrated, I actually like it quite a lot.
I bolded the only thing I agree with. :lol
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Flick of the Switch is outstanding
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It will be interesting to revisit some of the stuff and see if my opinion changes on any of that. I actually really like Fly on the Wall. The production is piss poor, but I think the songs are really strong.
I’m hoping with some of you guys will give these often overlooked albums another chance. But don’t everybody rush ahead. LOL
I’m even going to be listening to Ballbreaker with a fresh pair of ears (when we get to it) to see if I like it any better. I just remember having such high hopes for that album after hearing Big Guns. I totally thought it was going to be the next Back in Black because Rick Rubin had produced some of the best albums of the 80s and 90s, and has a reputation for getting older artists to return to their roots. That plus the return of Phil was a formula to top the success of TRE (even if that album itself was half baked). But I just didn’t get the final product I was hoping for from Ballbreaker.
Meh...We’ll talk about when we get that far.
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Just curious, did anyone here see AC/DC during the 70s with Bon?
I did. They were a warm up band for someone else. I don't recall who...and I was pretty wasted...and I'm kinda forgetting things these days.
What I do recall was thinking that while they certainly rocked, the naked guy riding around on the school boy was just a novelty act.
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Just listened to Power Up for the first time. Sounds like AC/DC ;).
I liked it, Brian's sounding good, some cool riffs, overall it's solid, nothing groundbreaking (yeah, I know :D) but enjoyable.
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I preordered the special edition of the new AC/DC album over a month ago. The album came out last Friday and FedEx originally told me that I would receive it on Monday.  A little irritating, but understandable I guess.
But now, FedEx tracker is saying that my package left Staunton, VA last Wednesday, arrived in Kernersville, NC on Thursday, left NC on Friday, went to Swatara, then North Versailles, PA on Saturday, went through La Porte and arrived in Chicago, IL on Sunday, left Chicago and arrived in Maywood, IL yesterday, and today it went through Central City, NE and is currently residing in Laramie, WY. Oh....and they have no estimated time of arrival at all.
I think my new AC/DC album is having a more complete US tour than the band has ever had.
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So tonight I listened to both Power Up (again) and Rock Or Bust. Somewhere along the line AC/DC forgot how to write a chorus. Repeating the song title four times does not make a chorus.
I think that's the problem with latter day AC/DC. Nothing is really memorable.
There are plenty of good riffs and verses on these albums, but they are all basically dead ends.
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So tonight I listened to both Power Up (again) and Rock Or Bust. Somewhere along the line AC/DC forgot how to write a chorus. Repeating the song title four times does not make a chorus.
I think that's the problem with latter day AC/DC. Nothing is really memorable.
There are plenty of good riffs and verses on these albums, but they are all basically dead ends.
You still listen to Iron Maiden, right? ;D :angel:
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Repeating the song title four times does not make a chorus.
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Ack, JD we had the same thought! We must be...... BLOOD BROTHERS!
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Repeating the song title four times does not make a chorus.
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Ack, JD we had the same thought! We must be...... BLOOD BROTHERS!
You mean We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers We’re blood brothers
:rollin
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:lol
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I preordered the special edition of the new AC/DC album over a month ago. The album came out last Friday and FedEx originally told me that I would receive it on Monday.  A little irritating, but understandable I guess.
But now, FedEx tracker is saying that my package left Staunton, VA last Wednesday, arrived in Kernersville, NC on Thursday, left NC on Friday, went to Swatara, then North Versailles, PA on Saturday, went through La Porte and arrived in Chicago, IL on Sunday, left Chicago and arrived in Maywood, IL yesterday, and today it went through Central City, NE and is currently residing in Laramie, WY. Oh....and they have no estimated time of arrival at all.
I think my new AC/DC album is having a more complete US tour than the band has ever had.
Shipping is whack; I'm having a hard time not thinking that it's just bad execution being blamed on COVID. I have a package coming from Germany that is now at 40 days, and I have a package from California that is now at 12 days. Ridiculous. You can (and we do) handle packages without impacting social distancing and other COVID precautions.
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Today’s update!
It has made its way to Pocatello, ID!!
I’ve been there. My oldest son’s mom came from that area.
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Repeating the song title four times does not make a chorus.
But it does. Why is repetition a bad thing? All music involves repetition, especially all forms of popular music, including rock. ACDC's entire brand of songwriting is repetition. Why is singing the title 4 times bad but playing the same god damn drum beat on every song is totally acceptable, or using the same three power chords for 12 songs every album like you're Old Man Green Day? If we're gonna rag on the words, we should be fair. With very few exceptions ACDC's been banging the same drum for 40 years.
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And it's not new, not for AC/DC and not for other artists. If it works it works and if not, then not.
She's got the jack, she's got the jack, she's got the jack, she's got the jack ........... jack, jack, jack ;)
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Some repetition is pretty annoying, I'll agree. The worst offender ever is WE ROCK! imo.
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Again, I'm suprised that AC/DC fans are bothered by the repetition. The band's been about that since the beginning. Dirty deeds, Problem child, Highway to hell, The Jack...
This is like complaining that AC/DC songs start with a riff or feature a 4/4 signature.
As far as the new album goes, Systems down has been in my head all day. Through the mist of time is another highlight, Realize is also turning out to be a grower, Shot in the dark is still powerful... I guess I won't throw this album away as soon as I thought I would on my first listen.
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I think my biggest issue with Power Up is that almost every song is a mid-tempo tough-guy rock song that attempts to have some kind of swagger, but the band just doesn't seem to have the groove or the energy or even the infectious riffs to pull it off even once on this album like they did on, say, Skies On Fire - let alone 11 times (for every song except Demon Fire). I know it's cliché to say every AC/DC song sounds the same, & most of the time I disagree, but with Power Up it's really noticeable & it makes the album feel really tedious imo.
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I agree with that. I do miss a good attempt at a speedy rock number like Landslide, or at least Fire your guns.
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Again, I'm suprised that AC/DC fans are bothered by the repetition. The band's been about that since the beginning. Dirty deeds, Problem child, Highway to hell, The Jack...
Yeah, you know after I typed that, I thought about it, and it's really not new for them. But there's something missing. Something not memorable.
I think my biggest issue with Power Up is that almost every song is a mid-tempo tough-guy rock song that attempts to have some kind of swagger, but the band just doesn't seem to have the groove or the energy or even the infectious riffs to pull it off even once on this album like they did on, say, Skies On Fire - let alone 11 times (for every song except Demon Fire). I know it's cliché to say every AC/DC song sounds the same, & most of the time I disagree, but with Power Up it's really noticeable & it makes the album feel really tedious imo.
I kind of agree.
The two songs that stand out to me as good are Through The Mists Of Time and Demon Fire. I also like Witches Brew.
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LA GRANDE, OREGON!! The slow crawl continues.
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LA GRANDE, OREGON!! The slow crawl continues.
Is this delivered by pony-express?
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IT ARRIVED!!!!!
.........in Portland
:censored
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:lol
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Just an update because it’s getting comical at this point.
It arrived in Portland at 1 am yesterday. It then arrived in Troutdale, OR at about 7pm. It was then tracked as leaving Troutdale at 11pm. Then it is listed as leaving Troutdale AGAIN at 2am this morning.
Fortunately, it finally arrived in Tacoma, WA at 5 am this morning, and is currently out for delivery.
But DANG!!!!
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Just an update because it’s getting comical at this point.
It arrived in Portland at 1 am yesterday. It then arrived in Troutdale, OR at about 7pm. It was then tracked as leaving Troutdale at 11pm. Then it is listed as leaving Troutdale AGAIN at 2am this morning.
Fortunately, it finally arrived in Tacoma, WA at 5 am this morning, and is currently out for delivery.
But DANG!!!!
I love this saga.
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Hopefully it’s the right edition and jdude doesn’t have to return it
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OK. Now it finally has arrived at my house. Safe and sound from its 10 day and 13 city tour of the US. :rollin
The box itself is kind of neat. It lights up the logo in neon and then plays a 30 second snippet of the opening track. It even comes with a little charge cord so that you can charge it back up if the battery dies. I feel happy about the money I spent to get a collectors item.
I will listen to the album later tonight and then give my thoughts proper when we finally get to it in the album discussion thread. By then it will have sunk in a little better
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Phil Rudd is EXCELLENT on the new album.
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Yep, that's one consistent drummer right there. I actually think you need to be talented to performe such a steady groove throughout.
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Friend of mine was bagging on the Power Up album cover fierce last night. I don't see anything wrong with it. In fact while ACDC tends to have pretty meh album covers, I think this might actually be my favorite.
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The album cover is the best part of the album.
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Huge Phil Rudd fan. I have the new album but I haven't listened yet. I'm more fired up for Rudd than Cliff or Brian, frankly. I thought Chris Slade (who I loved in The Firm) and Simon Wright (who was ok in Dio; he wasn't a good fit there either) were not good fits.
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I like Simon Wright, and I enjoyed him in AC/DC. But there's only one Phil Rudd. I only saw him once, on the Ballbreaker tour, and I was totally fixated on him. He plays with such a great subtle flamboyance, almost hypnotic.
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In retrospect, I agree that Simon was not a good fit. He tried some different things on FOTW, which I actually really enjoyed, but didn’t go over very well. George and Harry got him to settle down and just “groove” on BUYV, but I’m not sure he was happy being a simple “groove” drummer for a high energy blues band.
I’ll look into it more when we get there, but I’m pretty sure he wasn’t fired. He decided to leave for Dio amicably just because he wanted to do something else.
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Finally listened to this record. Wow. I listened to it, and went back listened again... then did it again, then did it AGAIN. I love this record. We'll see how it lasts, how it ages, but first four listens and this is right in the vein of Blow Up Your Video. It's got good melodies, it's got interesting parts; I wouldn't say this is "formulaic AC/DC". It's got interesting parts, Brian SINGS at times, and there's some really tasty guitar playing by Angus.
I'm really digging this a lot.
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Finally listened to this record. Wow. I listened to it, and went back listened again... then did it again, then did it AGAIN. I love this record. We'll see how it lasts, how it ages, but first four listens and this is right in the vein of Blow Up Your Video. It's got good melodies, it's got interesting parts; I wouldn't say this is "formulaic AC/DC". It's got interesting parts, Brian SINGS at times, and there's some really tasty guitar playing by Angus.
I'm really digging this a lot.
I've heard it probably 8 times now. I like it a lot. Lots of great tunes. Through The Mists Of Times, Wtches Spell, and Demon Fire are my faves. Brian sounds amazing. Phil Rudd is outstanding. But I'll be honest. Angus is the weak link here..
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This is great!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBkaLEokDxY
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But I'll be honest. Angus is the weak link here..
I'm curious, why do you think so?
I've heard the album three times now and am enjoying it, but I haven't heard anything that made me think Angus could be better.
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But I'll be honest. Angus is the weak link here..
I'm curious, why do you think so?
I've heard the album three times now and am enjoying it, but I haven't heard anything that made me think Angus could be better.
Also curious. I really like how he sounds on this one. Power Up still is my favorite ACDC record in 40(!!) years. I'm surprised at how freaking good it is. Malcolm would be very proud.
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This is great!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBkaLEokDxY
Love it bro
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But I'll be honest. Angus is the weak link here..
I'm curious, why do you think so?
I've heard the album three times now and am enjoying it, but I haven't heard anything that made me think Angus could be better.
Also curious. I really like how he sounds on this one. Power Up still is my favorite ACDC record in 40(!!) years. I'm surprised at how freaking good it is. Malcolm would be very proud.
I found most of the lead breaks sloppy and not constructed. You really can't hum any of them in your head and are not memorable at all.
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Okay, fair enough. I haven't listened to the record often enough to see if his stuff is memorable.
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Listened to it today. Not bad. The vibe is really good. Not sure how much any of it will stick. Nothing made me chuckle but very solid.
Talking of ACDC, I utterly love this opening heavy DC/Quo mashup by the Wildhearts: https://youtu.be/UQqCkv9euFI