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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: Revenge319 on September 25, 2020, 09:41:53 AM
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Greetings to anyone reading this! Although I feel a bit nervous about hosting this roulette (I've never hosted anything like this on any forum or social media before), I've decided to give this a shot anyway. So, a few words before I get into the rules and such: The main reason I want to do this is because I need the motivation to listen to more new music, and in doing this I'll actually have the obligation to do so. Now, I LOVE music, but despite that... There's not a wide variety of artists I listen to. There's only six artists I know well and listen to often, plus one other thing that I'm not sure I'd want to admit to the forum... So, anyway, as you would probably guess, I am in need of trying out many new artists to expand my figuratively-speaking horizons!
[FORMAT]
I would much prefer to keep things simple, so simple this will be.
* 5 rounds.
* Send between 2 to 4 songs from one artist.
* I'll score songs on a scale of 1 to 10, using quarter increments (for example: 7, 7.25, 7.5, 7.75). The scale can go a little lower than 1 (which hopefully and probably won't happen), and if I hear a song amazing enough, the scale can go a bit higher than 10... and by that I mean I give it a shiny red filter. A 10 will double your score for the entire round.
[RULES]
So, I should probably get to the rules now.
* Firstly, I see no reason to limit the number of participants; the more people to send me music, the better (at least I would think so).
* Also regarding participants, there will be no eliminations, mainly because I prefer it that way but also because I'll feel bad if I eliminate anybody (though there will of course be a winner at the end).
* Since there will be multiple songs per user to score, I will find the average of all songs' scores to give points to each user.
* As one may expect, any artist on the ban lists below are banned and shouldn't be sent (except for the third list, but we'll get to that).
* As far as submitting music goes, a YouTube link is preferred but I'm also okay with music files. Don't do streaming services like Spotify because I don't use any streaming services.
* Also regarding submissions, I don't mind long songs, but try not to send me a song that's very, very long (like Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence or The Whirlwind or something like that). That being said, don't make them all long songs. One 20-minute song per round is fine if you want to send it, but don't send me multiple songs of a long length in a single round.
[TASTES]
This one's a bit tricky to define, because I don't care much about genres for the most part; if I like a song, I like it. That being said, I do tend to gravitate towards rock and metal (whether or not they're of the progressive variety) a lot, so I do encourage sending prog rock/metal (and non-prog rock/metal). I can enjoy most other genres, though, although I would highly discourage pop and rap/hip-hop music, as I tend to find the sound of those genres annoying with very little exception.
Additionally, I would highly suggest to avoid submitting songs if the lyrics are explicitly about sex or lyrics relating to satanism or some other occult thing. Also don't send anything with a lot of swearing. I almost always find these types of lyrics incredibly obnoxious, and it's rare that I'm able to enjoy the song enough to completely ignore that aspect of it.
[BAN LISTS]
There are three ban lists because it's easier to organize that way. In order of lists, the following artists are banned because 1) I know them well and enjoy them, 2) I either outright do not like them or just don't care about them, and 3) albums I've listened to from artists I don't know. So for Ban List #3, sending me music from the artists mentioned is perfectly okay as long as the songs aren't from albums I've heard before. Also, if an artist is not on my banned list, it's highly unlikely that I've ever heard them before (and if you happen to send me something I've heard before, I'll probably listen to it and rate it anyway).
Banned (I love these guys):
Dream Theater
Haken
Between the Buried and Me
Porcupine Tree
Transatlantic
Liquid Tension Experiment
Banned (I don't like 'em):
Avenged Sevenfold
Slayer
Bring Me The Horizon
Ghost
Volbeat
Green Day
In This Moment
Lamb of God
Albums banned (any songs not on these albums are fair game):
TOOL - Fear Inoculum
Rush - A Farewell to Kings
Rush - Hemispheres
Leprous - Coal
Steven Wilson - The Raven That Refused To Sing (And Other Stories)
Opeth - Morningrise
Opeth - Ghost Reveries
Opeth - Watershed
Banned during roulette:
AC/DC
Agalloch
Alcest
Alter Bridge
Amorphis
Anamanaguchi
Anathema
Angra
A Novelist
Arch / Matheos
Avantasia
Ayreon
Barock Project
Beyond the Bridge
Big Big Train
Black Sabbath
Black Stone Cherry
Blind Guardian
Burden of Life
Cardiacs
Chroma Key
Coheed and Cambria
Conception
David Maxim Micic
Deep Purple
Devin Townsend
East of the Wall
Exist
Fates Warning
Fireproven
Frost*
Genesis
Iamthemorning
Iced Earth
IQ
Iron Maiden
Journey
Kamelot
Karnivool
Katatonia
Kip Winger
KISS
Led Zeppelin
Leprous
Lost Domain
Marillion
Massive Attack
Mastodon
McStine & Minnemann
Meshuggah
Metallica
Mew
Mile Marker Zero
Mithras
Moonsorrow
Muse
Ne Obliviscaris
Nightwish
Oceansize
Pain of Salvation
Periphery
Pink Floyd
Portishead
Pure Reason Revolution
Queen
Queensrÿche
Rainbow
Riverside
Rush
Seventh Wonder
Sonata Arctica
Soundgarden
Spock's Beard
Steven Wilson
Switchfoot
Teramaze
Thank You Scientist
The Black Mages
The Dear Hunter
The Hirsch Effekt
The Ocean
The Pineapple Thief
Threshold
Trans-Siberian Orchestra
UFO
Ulver
Unleash the Archers
Wilderun
Wintersun
Within Temptation
Results pages, for purposes of convenience
Round 1, 1/3 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55751.msg2706903#msg2706903)
Round 1, 2/3 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55751.msg2706985#msg2706985)
Round 1, 3/3 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55751.msg2707074#msg2707074)
Round 2, 1/3 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55751.msg2711207#msg2711207)
Round 2, 2/3 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55751.msg2711859#msg2711859)
Round 2, 3/3 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55751.msg2713279#msg2713279)
Round 3, 1/2 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55751.msg2721494#msg2721494)
Round 3, 2/2 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55751.msg2723591#msg2723591)
Round 4, 1/3 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55751.msg2726768#msg2726768)
Round 4, 2/3 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55751.msg2727913#msg2727913)
Round 4, 3/3 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55751.msg2730136#msg2730136)
Round 5, 1/3 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55751.msg2753219#msg2753219)
Round 5, 2/3 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55751.msg2754580#msg2754580)
Round 5, 3/3 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55751.msg2755334#msg2755334)
Final results (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55751.msg2755338#msg2755338)
[PARTICIPANTS]
I will add the very nice people who decide to join here. (Also, sign-ups are open for two days, so on the 27th I'll begin the roulette.)
- Evermind
- Buddyhunter1
- HOF
- Cyril
- Elite
- 425
- romdrums
- Sacul
- kingshmegland
- TAC
- Stadler
- Anguyen92
- Nekov
- jingle.boy
- Puppies_On_Acid
- MoraWintersoul
- Luoto
- twosuitsluke
- Lethean
Well, that concludes all of the setup, I think! It does feel strange to be a person on this forum who only really listens to a few bands, so hopefully by the end of this I will enjoy many more! Feel free to ask me any questions in case I forgot to mention something.
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(Also, this is unrelated to the rules, but how do I change the title of the thread for when I want to announce results, submitting songs, etc.?)
You edit your OP (the first post in the thread) and then you change the text in the "Subject" field.
I'm in btw, that must be the shortest banned list in roulette history. Can't miss this.
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that must be the shortest banned list in roulette history. Can't miss this.
Yeah, I was expecting people to point that out. I'd be surprised to see a shorter one; there's only 14 artists I've banned!
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I am in this to see how many entry-level prog metal bands I can get away with sending before anyone else does. :biggrin:
Btw, your rules look good for the most part, the only change I'd recommend is introducing a maximum length for each submission. Just going off of your current rules I could technically send you over a disc's length of music each round by sending four 20 minute songs, and you don't want that. :lol
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Btw, your rules look good for the most part, the only change I'd recommend is introducing a maximum length for each submission. Just going off of your current rules I could technically send you over a disc's length of music each round by sending four 20 minute songs, and you don't want that. :lol
Fair point! I will have to update this.
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I’m in with a banned list this minimal! Should be fun.
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anyone who hates slayer is cool in my book, sign me up, down, left, but not right
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that must be the shortest banned list in roulette history
It’s not!
Can I join too?
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that must be the shortest banned list in roulette history
It’s not!
Scar? :lol
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that must be the shortest banned list in roulette history
It’s not!
Can I join too?
Interesting! I wonder how many artists are on the shortest ban list...
And yes, you may certainly join in!
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Whoa, this is a banned list tailor-made for me. I'm in if you'll have me!
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Whoa, this is a banned list tailor-made for me. I'm in if you'll have me!
I'm quite interested to find out what that will mean regarding submissions...
And yeah, I'll have you. The more, the merrier! (And that goes for anyone I haven't responded to yet as well, of course.)
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I want to join but I'm all fatigued out with roulettes. If signups run through the weekend then I'll decide by Sunday.
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Whoa, this is a banned list tailor-made for me. I'm in if you'll have me!
I'm quite interested to find out what that will mean regarding submissions...
That means 425'll send you
1) Neal Morse
2) Coheed and Cambria
3) Iron Maiden
4) Nightwish
5) Coldplay or Seventh Wonder
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In.
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Oh shit, where's Lethean
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I want to join but I'm all fatigued out with roulettes. If signups run through the weekend then I'll decide by Sunday.
Alrighty. Sign-ups end on Sunday, the 27th, so if you change your mind, just let me know by the end of Sunday.
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Oh shit, where's Lethean
Dude, that's also what I thought. We should PM him :lol
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Whoa, this is a banned list tailor-made for me. I'm in if you'll have me!
I'm quite interested to find out what that will mean regarding submissions...
That means 425'll send you
1) Neal Morse
2) Coheed and Cambria
3) Iron Maiden
4) Nightwish
5) Coldplay or Seventh Wonder
I am feeling extremely attacked right now, and not at all because I was already working on a playlist for one of these artists. :rollin
But seriously, I at minimum wouldn't send Neal to someone whose list is this small but already includes Transatlantic. I figure if he likes TA, he'll make his own way to NM, and it's better to use that slot to introduce something else.
Also, I don't know that I've ever sent Seventh Wonder before?
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I also don't know, I just went to your latest roulette thread and picked two bolded artists for the fifth option, didn't know what to pick :lol
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The first four are definitely extremely me things to send, and Coldplay is definitely something I'll go for if the person seems open to pop. So you got pretty close!
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I'm in if you'll have me :corn
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I'm in if you'll have me :corn
Of course!
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By the way, to those whose posts I didn't respond to, you're still signed up for the roulette. I figure you all know that, but I wanted to bring it up just in case.
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Oh shit, where's Lethean
he's currently katatonic
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If you'll have me I'd love to join!
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If you'll have me I'd love to join!
I'll join the Fogey Division too!
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If you'll have me I'd love to join!
I'll join the Fogey Division too!
Added and added!
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I just put brand new tennis balls on my walker, so I'm in!!!
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I'm in if you'll have me :corn
Of course!
Total duration of this roulette doubled
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With you, Stadler, and me, we've tripled the duration of the roulette :metardica:
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I just put brand new tennis balls on my walker, so I'm in!!!
Added!
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Yeah. Sure, I'm in.
If we are doing Youtube links, can you let us know if a video link doesn't work due to region locked or something?
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Yeah. Sure, I'm in.
If we are doing Youtube links, can you let us know if a video link doesn't work due to region locked or something?
Added! And yeah, if a YouTube link is region-locked, I'll let you know.
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I just put brand new tennis balls on my walker, so I'm in!!!
Stadler sent Rainbow.
If you'll have me I'd love to join!
I'll join the Fogey Division too!
TAC sent UFO.
;D ;D ;D ;D
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I just put brand new tennis balls on my walker, so I'm in!!!
Code for Viagra.
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I should mention: Even though Round 1 won't begin until the 27th, if you already have any submissions ready, feel free to send them in advance.
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I am so in
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I am so in
Added!
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I should mention: Even though Round 1 won't begin until the 27th, if you already have any submissions ready, feel free to send them in advance.
Is there a total length limit or just no individual tracks over 20 minutes?
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I should mention: Even though Round 1 won't begin until the 27th, if you already have any submissions ready, feel free to send them in advance.
Is there a total length limit or just no individual tracks over 20 minutes?
There's no specific length limit. I just don't want multiple submissions per round that are very lengthy, so if you've got a 20+ minute song, just make sure to balance it out with significantly shorter songs.
(To clarify, I don't mean only one person can send me one long song, I just mean that out of the group of songs each person submits, only one should be very long if you want to send a very long song.)
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I should mention: Even though Round 1 won't begin until the 27th, if you already have any submissions ready, feel free to send them in advance.
Is there a total length limit or just no individual tracks over 20 minutes?
There's no specific length limit. I just don't want multiple submissions per round that are very lengthy, so if you've got a 20+ minute song, just make sure to balance it out with significantly shorter songs.
(To clarify, I don't mean only one person can send me one song, I just mean that out of the group of songs each person submits, only one should be very long if you want to send a very long song.)
Got it. Will send round 1 soon!
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I sent mine, in anticipation that others might opt for the same band. I feel privileged to offer this band, especially given the premise of the roulette (broader exposure to music). This is a must-know band, in my opinion, especially given the bands that you list as favorites. This band is a clear influence on at least one of them (though one of the bands you DON'T like opened for them on a previous tour!)
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Sent an obscure artist that probably only one or two people on here are aware of.
Also I can't believe I'm saying this, but damn, BTBAM are banned! :lol
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I'm in if you'll have me :corn
Of course!
Total duration of this roulette doubled
:potkettle:
If you'll have me I'd love to join!
I'll join the Fogey Division too!
I'll make it four.
Hard part is going to be narrowing down selections.
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If you'll have me I'd love to join!
I'll join the Fogey Division too!
I'll make it four.
Hard part is going to be narrowing down selections.
Added!
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Sent
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OOOOH FRESH BLOOD!!!
I am so in. :metal :metal :metal
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OOOOH FRESH BLOOD!!!
I am so in. :metal :metal :metal
Added!
Honestly, I'm surprised I got so many participants in less than half of a day! I've come to realize just how much music I'll be getting in a single round, but I'll try my very best to keep up.
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You will be a music hermit for a while. Lol
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OOOOH FRESH BLOOD!!!
I am so in. :metal :metal :metal
Added!
Honestly, I'm surprised I got so many participants in less than half of a day! I've come to realize just how much music I'll be getting in a single round, but I'll try my very best to keep up.
Don't worry. None of the other current Roulette hosts are keeping up.. ;D
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Tim, admit it. We are whores. Music whores.
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Dirty sluts. :lol
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I sent mine, in anticipation that others might opt for the same band. I feel privileged to offer this band, especially given the premise of the roulette (broader exposure to music). This is a must-know band, in my opinion, especially given the bands that you list as favorites. This band is a clear influence on at least one of them (though one of the bands you DON'T like opened for them on a previous tour!)
Keepin it simple, smart guy?
I just looked at the profile of our host ... goddamn, he’s younger than jingle.son!!
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I just looked at the profile of our host ... goddamn, he’s younger than jingle.son!!
Yeah, I just turned 18 in August. I remember a few months ago, there was this thread on here where the idea was to post a song that came out the same year you were born. I said Blind Faith by Dream Theater, and I remember one guy commented on how my post probably made everyone else in the thread feel really old. And for me, seeing people respond with stuff that came out in the 70s made me feel younger. Not that I think I'm already getting old, but it certainly makes me feel a little more young.
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Chad. My God, you must feel old. :lol
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Chad. My God, you must feel old. :lol
I AM old!!!
SO ARE YOU!!!!!
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I just looked at the profile of our host ... goddamn, he’s younger than jingle.son!!
Yeah, I just turned 18 in August. I remember a few months ago, there was this thread on here where the idea was to post a song that came out the same year you were born. I said Blind Faith by Dream Theater, and I remember one guy commented on how my post probably made everyone else in the thread feel really old. And for me, seeing people respond with stuff that came out in the 70s made me feel younger. Not that I think I'm already getting old, but it certainly makes me feel a little more young.
Then you're gonna love having Stadler in this roulette. :lol
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Chad. My God, you must feel old. :lol
I AM old!!!
SO ARE YOU!!!!!
Watching kids grow up definitely makes this ring true.
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We helped my THIRTY y/o stepson move today. Fucking THIRTY!!
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The roulette hasn't even started and I'm already enjoying this.
Well, technically I could start listening to the submissions I have already, but I'll wait until the roulette starts so I can listen to all the submissions in a row.
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The roulette hasn't even started and I'm already enjoying this.
Well, technically I could start listening to the submissions I have already, but I'll wait until the roulette starts so I can listen to all the submissions in a row.
Wait on mine. The Fogeys are talking offline.
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Stadler's Inbox is full.
If Stadler's inbox was his bladder, he'd need a damn bag.
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Time for an investigation into Stadler's inbox.
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Stadler's Inbox is full.
If Stadler's inbox was his bladder, he'd need a damn bag.
When is his inbox not full....
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He's got a small box, apparently..
Sounds like a prime candidate for a box enlargement..
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The roulette hasn't even started and I'm already enjoying this.
Well, technically I could start listening to the submissions I have already, but I'll wait until the roulette starts so I can listen to all the submissions in a row.
Wait on mine. The Fogeys are talking offline.
Revenge is gonna have to keep his inbox tidy too, with all these submissions coming in. I forget the inbox limit for the noobs. What is it, like 50 messages?
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The roulette hasn't even started and I'm already enjoying this.
Well, technically I could start listening to the submissions I have already, but I'll wait until the roulette starts so I can listen to all the submissions in a row.
Wait on mine. The Fogeys are talking offline.
Revenge is gonna have to keep his inbox tidy too, with all these submissions coming in. I forget the inbox limit for the noobs. What is it, like 50 messages?
I have a limit of 25, every message I get increases the percentage by 4%.
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The roulette hasn't even started and I'm already enjoying this.
Well, technically I could start listening to the submissions I have already, but I'll wait until the roulette starts so I can listen to all the submissions in a row.
Wait on mine. The Fogeys are talking offline.
Revenge is gonna have to keep his inbox tidy too, with all these submissions coming in. I forget the inbox limit for the noobs. What is it, like 50 messages?
I have a limit of 25, every message I get increases the percentage by 4%.
Oy! Hopefully you have notifications turned on, and you get automated messages at your personal email address.
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Does that work if your inbox is full?
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Does that work if your inbox is full?
Ask Robert Kraft.
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Does that work if your inbox is full?
Ask Robert Kraft.
Forget it...
(https://i.imgur.com/ICE92vV.jpg)
...Stadler is busy..
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Those pics are still on my phone. Lol
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Those pics are still on my phone. Lol
I love when I can reuse them.
Revenge is like...WTF is going on in my thread?
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Those pics are still on my phone. Lol
I love when I can reuse them.
Revenge is like...WTF is going on in my thread?
:rollin
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i -still- have the 25 message limit :lol
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Revenge is like...WTF is going on in my thread?
Well, I've seen this kind of stuff happen in a lot of threads, so I'm not too surprised to see what's unfolded here. I've looked through a lot of old threads on here, including the stuff in the Archive section. There's some amazing and hilarious stuff in there! :lol
Oy! Hopefully you have notifications turned on, and you get automated messages at your personal email address.
Yeah, I get email notifications when someone sends me a private message. I'll have to make sure to manage my inbox properly.
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Revenge is like...WTF is going on in my thread?
Well, I've seen this kind of stuff happen in a lot of threads, so I'm not too surprised to see what's unfolded here.
It's all Kingshmegland's fault.
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Revenge is like...WTF is going on in my thread?
Well, I've seen this kind of stuff happen in a lot of threads, so I'm not too surprised to see what's unfolded here.
It's all Kingshmegland's fault.
It usually is :corn
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I aim to please.
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Does that work if your inbox is full?
No... I meant it in the sense that he'll still have a copy of the submissions/links in his personal email inbox after he has to continually delete them from his DTF inbox.
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Does that work if your inbox is full?
No... I meant it in the sense that he'll still have a copy of the submissions/links in his personal email inbox after he has to continually delete them from his DTF inbox.
Oh Gotcha!
Revenge...go with what I orginally sent. Fogey's having technology issues...
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Well, only one day until the roulette begins proper! My plan is to try to get out first impressions by Wednesday, start the hangman, and then next Sunday have the results and start the next round. That way, it'll be a week-long routine for every round.
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Sent.
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Sending later tonight / tomorrow morning. Holy shitballs am I envious for the musical journey you’re about to experience.
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Sending later tonight / tomorrow morning. Holy shitballs am I envious for the musical journey you’re about to experience.
WTF? Send it on Fogey! You called this!
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Holy shitballs am I envious for the musical journey you’re about to experience.
I imagine quite a few people will be thinking that about me throughout this roulette. I remember when I got into Haken earlier this year, I just thought, "where have you been all my life?", and I do hope I get a similar reaction from some of the artists sent in this roulette.
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What's the rule on multiple people sending the same artist in a given round?
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What's the rule on multiple people sending the same artist in a given round?
Considering my small ban list, I can see that happening, so I'll allow it. That being said, if I get any of the same songs, I will ask one person to replace said songs.
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I'm signing in! Will try to avoid some usual suspect bands.
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I'm signing in! Will try to avoid some usual suspect bands.
Added!
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And sent!
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What's the rule on multiple people sending the same artist in a given round?
Considering my small ban list, I can see that happening, so I'll allow it. That being said, if I get any of the same songs, I will ask one person to replace said songs.
That sounds good! In case you weren't aware, a common rule is to have a "Banned during roulette" list that you add artists to after results come out. This is usually used in the case of if you get an artist you really like, so people don't just send you more of them to get points. You can also use it as a "okay, stop sending me this" order if you get several people sending you the same thing.
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What's the rule on multiple people sending the same artist in a given round?
Considering my small ban list, I can see that happening, so I'll allow it. That being said, if I get any of the same songs, I will ask one person to replace said songs.
That sounds good! In case you weren't aware, a common rule is to have a "Banned during roulette" list that you add artists to after results come out. This is usually used in the case of if you get an artist you really like, so people don't just send you more of them to get points. You can also use it as a "okay, stop sending me this" order if you get several people sending you the same thing.
I have noticed people doing that, and I'll probably do that as well. After all, if I get a band I really like, I'll probably get to more of their music on my own anyway.
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I'm signing in! Will try to avoid some usual suspect bands.
Added!
And sent!
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I'll let you guys in on a little something...
I would prefer to keep what exactly this is a secret until the time is right, but I'm working on a little something related to this roulette. At the end of the roulette when I go over the final results, I should be able to share it with everyone here.
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Sent.
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I might as well sign up. Figuring out what to send will be interesting with virtually no banned list :biggrin:
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I might as well sign up. Figuring out what to send will be interesting with virtually no banned list :biggrin:
Added!
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I'll let you guys in on a little something...
I would prefer to keep what exactly this is a secret until the time is right, but I'm working on a little something related to this roulette. At the end of the roulette when I go over the final results, I should be able to share it with everyone here.
Well that’s about as big of a tease, while telling us absolutely nothing useful, as you can announce. :biggrin:
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I'll let you guys in on a little something...
I would prefer to keep what exactly this is a secret until the time is right, but I'm working on a little something related to this roulette. At the end of the roulette when I go over the final results, I should be able to share it with everyone here.
Well that’s about as big of a tease, while telling us absolutely nothing useful, as you can announce. :biggrin:
I'd give a more proper hint than just "it's related to the roulette", but I'm not sure what else I could say without completely giving away what it is. I'll have to see if I can think of a hint...
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Sent!
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Sent!
(https://i.imgflip.com/28n5ln.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/28n5ln)
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Sent!
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425, send a sweet, sweet Coheed song that will convert young Revenge forever!
Too late to join this? I've not joined a roulette in at least a few years.
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425, send a sweet, sweet Coheed song that will convert young Revenge forever!
Too late to join this? I've not joined a roulette in at least a few years.
I actually do know a couple Coheed and Cambria songs (Welcome Home and Guns of Summer), which I think are pretty good, but I haven't been converted just yet!
Also, sure, you can join in!
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Sweet, I'll get something sent for the first round. Are you allowing people to send the same bands or if someone gets in there first is that band then banned?
What are your thoughts on Coheed?
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Sweet, I'll get something sent for the first round. Are you allowing people to send the same bands or if someone gets in there first is that band then banned?
What are your thoughts on Coheed?
I mentioned it earlier in the thread, but it's alright if more than one person ends up sending the same band in the same round. However, if I get multiple of the same song, then I'll just ask one of the people who submitted to replace said song(s).
Also, I think Coheed and Cambria is pretty good, based on the two songs I've heard. The one thing that stands out to me is that the singer sounds both male and female. I think that's pretty cool, though! If I had a voice like that, I'd totally use it to my advantage if I were a singer.
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Update to the rules: I've added a "Banned during roulette" section, though as you can probably guess, it's empty since the roulette hasn't advanced past the first round (or even started).
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Sent.
Looking forward to hearing your reaction to The Dear Hunter, Devin Townsend, Thank You Scientist and Caligula's Horse :lol
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I actually do know a couple Coheed and Cambria songs (Welcome Home and Guns of Summer)
you a rock band player? :lol
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:lol
I find the drums the most fun to play.
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Well, the roulette starts tomorrow! I'm gonna have so much stuff to listen to this week, it's actually kind of crazy. But I think I'll be able to keep a consistent schedule nonetheless!
So as a reminder:
Round 1 begins tomorrow, Sunday. First impressions and Hangman begin Wednesday. Results will be the following Sunday, as well as the start of the next round.
Simplified, the plan is: New round on Sundays, first impressions on Wednesdays.
I'm looking forward to all the submissions I'll be receiving!
I actually do know a couple Coheed and Cambria songs (Welcome Home and Guns of Summer)
you a rock band player? :lol
More or less. It's how I got into Dream Theater (and later on, BTBAM)! If you're wondering how I have such a small amount of stuff I like despite playing Rock Band, it's because my tastes were once very oddly specific, so it was mostly just being at the right place at the right time that I discovered Dream Theater in the first place.
:lol
I find the drums the most fun to play.
I like using guitar/bass myself. It's been a long time since I've played RB4, come to think of it...
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:lol
I find the drums the most fun to play.
Rock Band?? WTF?
Back in my day Rock Band was turning garbage cans upside down and strumming a tennis racket.
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Yup Tim.
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sent a buffet of increasingly bad ideas, as per usual
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I'll join if there's room... :)
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I'll join if there's room... :)
Sure! Sign-ups haven't closed just yet, so you're not too late.
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:lol
I find the drums the most fun to play.
Rock Band?? WTF?
Back in my day Rock Band was turning garbage cans upside down and strumming a tennis racket.
You mean something like what this song says? First thing that came to my mind when I heard garbage cans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOBcybqQfu8
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Sending later tonight / tomorrow morning. Holy shitballs am I envious for the musical journey you’re about to experience.
WTF? Send it on Fogey! You called this!
Some of us like to take their time and plan out how they intend to please other people.
I'm in now.
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Well, seeing as it is now the 27th, I hereby declare the roulette to be officially started! So please make sure to send in your submissions for Round 1 if you haven't already. I have so much stuff to listen to. I think once all the submissions come in, I could have six hours of music! But anyway, I suppose now is a good time to get started on my end!
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Sent!
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I've listened to just about every submission I've received so far. I don't wanna say too much, since first impressions come in a few days, but I do want to say that overall, I've enjoyed what I've heard thus far!
Just a reminder, I still need submissions from Elite and 425. Not to rush you guys or anything, I'd just like to have these by Wednesday. :)
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Hopefully Stadler resubmitted.
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Hopefully Stadler resubmitted.
Technically I'm still waiting on Stadler as well, but he recently messaged me about that, so I imagine he'll get it to me soon.
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Just a reminder, I still need submissions from Elite and 425. Not to rush you guys or anything, I'd just like to have these by Wednesday. :)
This is my shocked face.
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Hopefully Stadler resubmitted.
Technically I'm still waiting on Stadler as well, but he recently messaged me about that, so I imagine he'll get it to me soon.
Done and it SLAYS. I'm so good at this.
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Just a reminder, I still need submissions from Elite and 425. Not to rush you guys or anything, I'd just like to have these by Wednesday. :)
This is my shocked face.
Yeah, that's basically the norm. You should start worrying if Elite is the first one to send for a round. :lol
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Just a reminder, I still need submissions from Elite and 425. Not to rush you guys or anything, I'd just like to have these by Wednesday. :)
This is my shocked face.
Yeah, that's basically the norm. You should start worrying if Elite is the first one to send for a round. :lol
That happens occasionally though!
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B for Mr Blackwell.
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B for Mr Blackwell.
Huh??
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Hangman..
I picked B. ;D
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Hangman..
I picked B. ;D
Ah, I'll keep that in mind!
I'm still waiting on 425's submission. Then I'll have every song for Round 1, and can finish the Hangmanen entries and present it on Wednesday.
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W for WINNER!
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Sent, sorry guys! Didn't plan on being a post-Elite sender. Just been busy the past couple of days after the air conditioning unit suddenly stopped working (I live in Florida, so it's still quite hot).
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Sent, sorry guys! Didn't plan on being a post-Elite sender. Just been busy the past couple of days after the air conditioning unit suddenly stopped working (I live in Florida, so it's still quite hot).
The shame must be crushing.
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Post-Elite Sendcore is the best music.
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Sent, sorry guys! Didn't plan on being a post-Elite sender. Just been busy the past couple of days after the air conditioning unit suddenly stopped working (I live in Florida, so it's still quite hot).
The shame must be crushing.
I'll bear this mark for the rest of my days.
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Post-Elite Sendcore is the best music.
I love this forum. :lol
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Sent, sorry guys! Didn't plan on being a post-Elite sender. Just been busy the past couple of days after the air conditioning unit suddenly stopped working (I live in Florida, so it's still quite hot).
The shame must be crushing.
I'll bear this mark for the rest of my days.
Branded with the letter L. :lol
Post-Elite Sendcore is the best music.
Every song had an ambient emptiness to the star of each song.
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give me the ψ
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Sent, sorry guys! Didn't plan on being a post-Elite sender. Just been busy the past couple of days after the air conditioning unit suddenly stopped working (I live in Florida, so it's still quite hot).
The shame must be crushing.
I'll bear this mark for the rest of my days.
Branded with the letter L. :lol
L for SacuL ?
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Seeing as it is now Wednesday (in my timezone, at least), I'll post my first impressions. I plan on going to bed sometime soon, Hangman will come once I wake up.
1. I like the music, though I'm not entirely sure how I feel about the vocals.
2. It seems similar to most 80's pop/rock I've heard. It's good, but nothing special.
3. Fantastic! It's not what I expected as far as what the songs ended up being, but this is some amazing stuff. I might become addicted to this.
4. Nothing all that remarkable, but still pretty good, I'd say.
5. I don't think I care for the vocals, at all, but the music is really good and greatly makes up for the weak vocals.
6. A couple really great songs, and I have a feeling the other ones will grow on me a lot.
7. Honestly, I like what I'm hearing so far!
8. I feel like it's supposed to be more of an emotional kind of music, but I don't really feel that yet; that being said, it's pretty good.
9. This is more or less the music I expected to hear from [REDACTED].
10. Overall, I'm not quite sure what to think of this one yet.
11. Reminds me of Rush in a lot of ways. They also seem a lot more technical than I thought!
12. This is really great! I wish I had listened to this sooner.
13. Quite interesting. I'll need more listens to gauge how much I like this one.
14. Honestly, I wasn't expecting much of anything, but this is actually some pretty good music!
15. While they seem to stick with the same general sound, they manage to make each song unique despite that.
16. Given time, I may be converted.
17. Not bad, but so far there's not much I really find interesting.
18. I expected this to be very mediocre, but these guys actually aren't all that bad!
19. The vocals seem a little too aggressive for the music at times, but other than that, this is very good.
Some of these are vague, some of these are subtle (or maybe not-so-subtle?) hints. Have fun speculating, Hangman will be here soon.
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I could be literally all of these except the technical one :rollin nice job on keeping us guessing.
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I can scratch the 80s pop/rock and Rush/technical comments, but that's about it. I pray to lord my submission isn't represented with a 'poor vocals' comment.
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I pray to lord my submission isn't represented with a 'poor vocals' comment.
Same, I may have to throw hands. :hat
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Well mine is likely not 8, 9, 11 or 18. Definitely not 2 :lol
Also wondering how fast the hangman will be finished.
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Picked 2 impressions for each Fogey..
TAC-4. Nothing all that remarkable, but still pretty good, I'd say.
J-BOY-5. I don't think I care for the vocals, at all, but the music is really good and greatly makes up for the weak vocals.
KING-6. A couple really great songs, and I have a feeling the other ones will grow on me a lot.
J-BOY-7. Honestly, I like what I'm hearing so far!
STADLER-9. This is more or less the music I expected to hear from [REDACTED].
KING-12. This is really great! I wish I had listened to this sooner.
STADLER-14. Honestly, I wasn't expecting much of anything, but this is actually some pretty good music!
TAC-17. Not bad, but so far there's not much I really find interesting.
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Tim, I thought 6 was mine as well.
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Boy, yeah pretty much all of those could be mine as well. I will say, I sent one of the truly great rock vocalists, but I actually chose two tracks from a later era when his voice had lost a lot of range and power. I should have maybe mentioned that ahead of time.
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Picked 2 impressions for each Fogey..
TAC-4. Nothing all that remarkable, but still pretty good, I'd say.
J-BOY-5. I don't think I care for the vocals, at all, but the music is really good and greatly makes up for the weak vocals.
KING-6. A couple really great songs, and I have a feeling the other ones will grow on me a lot.
J-BOY-7. Honestly, I like what I'm hearing so far!
STADLER-9. This is more or less the music I expected to hear from [REDACTED].
KING-12. This is really great! I wish I had listened to this sooner.
STADLER-14. Honestly, I wasn't expecting much of anything, but this is actually some pretty good music!
TAC-17. Not bad, but so far there's not much I really find interesting.
All of those seem completely logical ... except the 'not caring for those vocals'. I mean, it's the voice of a musical God!
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3 is mine :)
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TAC could be right, but we also might be fist-fighting for 17, and I'm not ruling out 18; I've heard "mediocre" in the same sentence as my band a fair amount! (By heathens and the confused, of course, but still!)
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Stadler sent Cheap Trick :corn
I'm also going to guess Evermind sent Beyond the Bridge.
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Well I think mine could be any except for those about harsh vocals and the Rush and 80s rock comparisons :lol
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Impressions are good and all, but I'm just waiting to see how many artists in the hangman I know :corn
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I'm on the same boat as the rest of the guys, I see several of those being a possibility.
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Stadler sent Cheap Trick :corn
No, but related in a way (actually, three ways).
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It's time for the moment you've been waiting for... HANGMAN...EN.
Well, brace yourselves, because this is quite a wall of text. Or it will be, anyway. Alright, here it is!
(Also, I have added TAC, Stadler, and Cyril's guesses to the Hangman)
??: ____ - D____
??: ____ - __a____ ___t_
??: ____ - __a_t__ _a_t__
??: ____ - ____ '__ A_d __a__ '__
??: ____ - ___
??: _______ - __t___, _at___
??: _______ - ___ ____
??: _______ - __b____
??: _______ - T__a_ b_ ____
??: ___ - B_a__ ___d ______
??: ___ - ____ t_ ____
??: ___ - ___ ____ ___ t__ __d__
??: ___ - __________ __ ________
??: Devin Townsend - Addicted!
??: Devin Townsend - __a__t __ t__ A___
??: Devin Townsend - Kingdom
??: A_t__ B__d__ - B_a__b__d
??: A_t__ B__d__ - ___ __ A_______
??: A_t__ B__d__ - _______ _a_____
??: A_t__ B__d__ - Wa_____ __ t__ ___
??: A_at___a - __a____ D__a__
??: A_at___a - A _at__a_ D__a_t__
??: A_at___a - __t____ab__ _t. _
??: A_at___a - A_at___a
??: ____ - D__a_____
??: ____ - T__ _____t __ _ad__
??: ____ - ________t
??: ____ - _a_at___
??: _a_______ - ____aw
??: _a_______ - ___a_____
??: _a_______ - T__ __a__
??: _a_______ - ________d
??: ____t_ - ________t__at_
??: ____t_ - B_a__ ____t _a_____
??: ____t_ - W______ t_ __w____
??: ____t_ - T_w__b____
??: _____a ___ - __ t__ _a__
??: _____a ___ - A__t___ ____a___t Add____
??: _____a ___ - _t____
??: _______ - __ T__ _a__ __d___/A_t_____w
??: _______ - ___ __d__
??: A_______ - _________
??: A_______ - __d__ a ____ a_d B_a__ _t___
??: A_______ - D_at_ __ a ____
??: A_______ - Da___t__ __ _at_
??: _____d a_d _a_b__a - T__ W______ W___ ___: A_____ __: T__ T______ T__t_
??: _____d a_d _a_b__a - ____ W_ A__ _______a_t
??: _____d a_d _a_b__a - __d __a___
??: _____d a_d _a_b__a - __ _______ _____t_ __ _____t _a_t_: _
Evermind: Beyond the Bridge - The Call
Evermind: Beyond the Bridge - T__ D_________ __ ___a_
Evermind: Beyond the Bridge - Where the Earth and Sky Meet
Evermind: Beyond the Bridge - All a Man Can Do
??: T__ ______ _____t - A__tat___
??: T__ ______ _____t - _ata__
??: T__ ______ _____t - __ta_d
??: _atat___a - ____a___
??: _atat___a - _a_____
??: _atat___a - ___d____
??: __d ________ - B_a__ D__
??: __d ________ - _a___w_ ____
??: __d ________ - T_at'_ T__ Wa_
??: __d ________ - __ __ T___ __ D____
??: The Ocean - _ad____a___ __: __t T___ B______
??: The Ocean - D_____a_: _a____t
??: The Ocean - _____t_____
??: The Ocean - T__ __a_d _______t__ __: ___t_ a_d _____t_
??: ____tw___ - _ta__a____
??: ____tw___ - B____ T__ ____d
??: ____tw___ - T__ ___t a_d t__ ___d____
??: ____tw___ - ____t ____ _____
Guessed letters: B W Ψ D T A
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Gimme the D
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Real quick, should I edit my posts for a few updates to the Hangman, or should I make a new post for every updated Hangman?
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Beyond the Bridge. I don't know if I should take credit for this guess :lol
Real quick, should I edit my posts for a few updates to the Hangman, or should I make a new post for every updated Hangman?
Hosts usually edit the previous hangman post for a while to avoid clutter, and post it again on a new page at the latest.
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Evermind sent BTB and I'm sorry you have to sit through that
I sent Ron Burgundy
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I'm also going to guess Evermind sent Beyond the Bridge.
You are correct :lol
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T
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Also Dio - Last In Line. Jingle?
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Devin Townsend: Addicted! and two others i can't tell atm
probably Kraftwerk?
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Devin Townsend: Addicted! and two others i can't tell atm
Kingdom is one of them
In a shocking turn of events, Lethean sent Katatonia
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The Call
Where The Earth And Sky Meet
All A Man Can Do
Give me A
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The Ocean are there too
shot in the dark that Leprous too
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If Leprous ain't Lethean then The Ocean is
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Is Lethean even in this roulette? And if so why wouldn't he send Katatonia first? :lol
Hadopelagic II: Let Them Believe
Devonian: Nascent
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The Ocean are there too
Hadopelagic II: Let them Believe
Devonian: Nascent
The Grand Inquisitor II: Roots and Locusts
This thread moves crazy fast as expected :lol
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Is Lethean even in this roulette?
Lethean is in this roulette.
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Is Lethean even in this roulette?
Lethean is in this roulette.
??: _atat___a - ____a___
??: _atat___a - _a_____
??: _atat___a - ___d____
WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED
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Alter Bridge - Blackbird and some other stuff
Also Nightwish, hello 425
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Lethean sent Katatonia
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Anathema:
Fragile Dreams
A Natural Disaster
Untouchable Pt. 1
Anathema
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Anathema is ariich nvm :neverusethis:
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Give us an M.
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The Ocean are there too
Hadopelagic II: Let them Believe
Devonian: Nascent
The Grand Inquisitor II: Roots and Locusts
This thread moves crazy fast as expected :lol
Too fast for you to see me beat you to those first two, I see :neverusethis:
There's probably a Precambrian track in there too. Sent by Elite, maybe?
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Anathema:
Fragile Dreams
A Natural Disaster
Untouchable Pt. 1
Anathema
Not enough Weather Systems and needs at least one song from WHBWH, but oh well. :P
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Is Lethean even in this roulette?
Lethean is in this roulette.
??: _atat___a - ____a___
??: _atat___a - _a_____
??: _atat___a - ___d____
WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED
Apparently not The Walrus.... :)
Though to be fair, I would totally have sent Leprous in a future round if for some reason they weren't sent in this one.
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There's probably a Precambrian track in there too. Sent by Elite, maybe?
Whoever it is the lack of PII is slightly disappointing
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There's probably a Precambrian track in there too. Sent by Elite, maybe?
Whoever it is the lack of PII is slightly disappointing
Eh, if I were sending The Ocean I'd probably just go with Pelagial and Phanerozic I songs. The best song on PII is Jurassic | Cretaceous but that's a full 13 minutes long.
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Well, this Hangman sure has kept me busy!
??: __ss - D____
??: __ss - __am___ ___t_
??: __ss - __ast__ _ast__
??: __ss - ____ '_m A_d __a__ '_m
??: __ss - S__
??: _______ - M_t___, _at___
??: _______ - ___ M___
??: _______ - __b____
??: _______ - T__a_ b_ ____
??: ___ - B_a__ ___d ______
??: ___ - ____ t_ ____
??: ___ - ___ M___ ___ t__ __d__
??: ___ - _____ss___ __ ________
??: Devin Townsend - Addicted!
??: Devin Townsend - __a__t __ t__ A__s
??: Devin Townsend - Kingdom
??: Alter Bridge - Blackbird
??: Alter Bridge - ___ __ A______s
??: Alter Bridge - _______ _a_____
??: Alter Bridge - Wa_____ __ t__ S__
??: Anathema - Fragile Dreams
??: Anathema - A Natural Disaster
??: Anathema - Untouchable Pt. 1
??: Anathema - Anathema
??: __s_ - D__am____
??: __s_ - T__ S____t __ _ad__
??: __s_ - __m_____t
??: __s_ - Ma_at___
??: Ma_______ - ___saw
??: Ma_______ - S__a_m___
??: Ma_______ - T__ S_a__
??: Ma_______ - _____m__d
??: ___st_ - ________t__at_
??: ___st_ - B_a__ ____t Ma_____
??: ___st_ - W____m_ t_ __w____
??: ___st_ - T_w__b____
MoraWintersoul: Chroma Key - On the Page
MoraWintersoul: Chroma Key - Another Permanent Address
MoraWintersoul: Chroma Key - St____
??: ____s_s - __ T__ _a__ m_d___/A_t_____w
??: ____s_s - __s __d_s
??: Amorphis - S________
??: Amorphis - __d__ a S___ a_d B_a__ St___
??: Amorphis - D_at_ __ a ____
??: Amorphis - Da___t__ __ _at_
??: Coheed and Cambria - The Willing Well III: Apollo II: The Telling Truth
??: Coheed and Cambria - Here We Are Juggernaut
??: Coheed and Cambria - Old Flames
??: Coheed and Cambria - In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3
Evermind: Beyond the Bridge - The Call
Evermind: Beyond the Bridge - The Difference Is Human
Evermind: Beyond the Bridge - Where the Earth and Sky Meet
Evermind: Beyond the Bridge - All a Man Can Do
Cyril: The Hirsch Effekt - A__tat___
Cyril: The Hirsch Effekt - _ata_s
Cyril: The Hirsch Effekt - Cotard
Lethean: Katatonia - ___sa___
Lethean: Katatonia - _a_____
Lethean: Katatonia - ___d____
Lethean: Katatonia - __t__a_
jingle.boy: Led Zeppelin - Black Dog
jingle.boy: Led Zeppelin - _a___ws ____
jingle.boy: Led Zeppelin - That's The Way
jingle.boy: Led Zeppelin - __ M_ T_m_ __ D____
Elite: The Ocean - Hadopelagic II: Let Them Believe
Elite: The Ocean - Devonian: Nascent
Elite: The Ocean - Pleistocene
Elite: The Ocean - The Grand Inquisitor II: Roots and Locusts
425: Nightwish - Stargazers
425: Nightwish - Bless the Child
425: Nightwish - The Poet and the Pendulum
425: Nightwish - Ghost Love Score
Guessed letters: B W Ψ D T A M S
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Revenge, you're missing one of my songs though. There should be 4. (And it's still under 20 minutes)
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The Poet And The Pendulum
Ghost Love Score
Man, I'm seeing my years of music discovery between 2009 and 2013 flash before my fucking eyes. :rollin
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Amorphis
Chroma Key
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Revenge, you're missing one of my songs though. There should be 4. (And it's still under 20 minutes)
Oh! I thought that "Lethean" at the bottom was just you signing your name at the end of your message... I'm so sorry, I'll get that on my playlist and this Hangman!
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Revenge, you're missing one of my songs though. There should be 4. (And it's still under 20 minutes)
Oh! I thought that "Lethean" at the bottom was just you signing your name at the end of your message... I'm so sorry, I'll get that on my playlist and this Hangman!
Katatonia - Lethean :lol
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Revenge, you're missing one of my songs though. There should be 4. (And it's still under 20 minutes)
Oh! I thought that "Lethean" at the bottom was just you signing your name at the end of your message... I'm so sorry, I'll get that on my playlist and this Hangman!
:rollin :rollin
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^ :lol
Chroma Key
I'm guessing that's Mora
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Chorma Key is Mora. It has to be. :lol
Another Permanent Address
Where's Even The Waves :'( Or Colorblind for that matter...
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Revenge, you're missing one of my songs though. There should be 4. (And it's still under 20 minutes)
Oh! I thought that "Lethean" at the bottom was just you signing your name at the end of your message... I'm so sorry, I'll get that on my playlist and this Hangman!
I'm glad you did a hangman so we could discover this right away and you wouldn't have to live a life deprived of that amazing song for one more day. :)
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Let the winter snow on your every word
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Coheed and Cambria:
The Willing Well III: Apollo II: The Telling Truth
Here We Are Juggernaut
Old Flames
In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3
if ur gonna send The Willing Well why not Literally Any Other Part :P
also rip Mother Superior
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Oh hey maybe that's 425 :lol
Though he was revealed in the hangman so apparently not
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Led Zeppelin - Black Dog, That's the Way
Ok, that's jingle :)
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The only reason I didn't guess Katatonia is because I didn't look hard at the hangman and missed it but I 100% knew it was going to be sent anyway
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Finally updated! The Hangmanen program won't save its data when I close it, so I had to redo everything up to what I'd done, and then include the new guesses.
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First I'll guess a letter: S
Cyril: The Hirsch Effekt
Finally updated! The Hangmanen program won't save its data when I close it, so I had to redo everything up to what I'd done, and then include the new guesses.
You lost The Ocean songs
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Cyril: The Hirsch Effekt
Cotard
so what round is The Apologist :corn
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Oh hey maybe that's 425 :lol
Though he was revealed in the hangman so apparently not
I'm Nightwish. My basic rule is that if the person doesn't have Nightwish banned, and there's not any indication that they wouldn't like them, then send Ghost Love Floor round 1.
The last Beyond the Bridge song is The Difference is Human.
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There's probably a Precambrian track in there too. Sent by Elite, maybe?
Whoever it is the lack of PII is slightly disappointing
Never mind, the missing song is Pleistocene :lol :metal
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You lost The Ocean songs
Fixed!
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Cyril: The Hirsch Effekt
Cotard
so what round is The Apologist :corn
round 2
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Stargazers
Bless the Child
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Chroma Key - On The Page
I'll take E
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Amorphis is the Walrus?
Anathema is Nekov
Give us an R
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Amorphis is the Walrus?
The Walrus isn't one of the participants. He posted here on the day I opened the roulette saying he'd make up his mind on joining by the end of the weekend, which he never asked to join by then (unless I somehow missed something), so it appears he's a spectator.
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Another Hangman update:
Stadler: Kiss - Deuce
Stadler: Kiss - Flaming Youth
Stadler: Kiss - Plaster Caster
Stadler: Kiss - Love 'Em And Leave 'Em
Stadler: Kiss - She
HOF: Journey - Mother, Father
HOF: Journey - One More
HOF: Journey - Rubicon
HOF: Journey - Trial by Fire
TAC: UFO - B_a__ ___d ____ee
TAC: UFO - Love to Love
TAC: UFO - One More for the Rodeo
TAC: UFO - _r__ess___ __ ____e__e
Buddyhunter1: Devin Townsend - Addicted!
Buddyhunter1: Devin Townsend - Planet of the Apes
Buddyhunter1: Devin Townsend - Kingdom
Anguyen92: Alter Bridge - Blackbird
Anguyen92: Alter Bridge - Cry of Achilles
Anguyen92: Alter Bridge - __re_er _a_____
Anguyen92: Alter Bridge - Wa_____ __ t_e S__
Sacul: Anathema - Fragile Dreams
Sacul: Anathema - A Natural Disaster
Sacul: Anathema - Untouchable Pt. 1
Sacul: Anathema - Anathema
kingshmegland: Rush - Dreamline
kingshmegland: Rush - The Spirit of Radio
kingshmegland: Rush - Limelight
kingshmegland: Rush - Marathon
Puppies_On_Acid: Marillion - ___saw
Puppies_On_Acid: Marillion - Sugarmice
Puppies_On_Acid: Marillion - T_e S_a_e
Puppies_On_Acid: Marillion - _e_erm__d
Nekov: Frost* - Hyperventilate
Nekov: Frost* - Black Light Machine
Nekov: Frost* - Welcome to Nowhere
Nekov: Frost* - Towerblock
MoraWintersoul: Chroma Key - On the Page
MoraWintersoul: Chroma Key - Another Permanent Address
MoraWintersoul: Chroma Key - Str___
romdrums: Genesis - In The Cage medley/Afterglow
romdrums: Genesis - __s E_d_s
Luoto: Amorphis - S____r_er
Luoto: Amorphis - __der a S___ a_d B_a__ St__e
Luoto: Amorphis - Deat_ __ a ____
Luoto: Amorphis - Da___ter __ _ate
twosuitsluke: Coheed and Cambria - The Willing Well III: Apollo II: The Telling Truth
twosuitsluke: Coheed and Cambria - Here We Are Juggernaut
twosuitsluke: Coheed and Cambria - Old Flames
twosuitsluke: Coheed and Cambria - In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3
Evermind: Beyond the Bridge - The Call
Evermind: Beyond the Bridge - The Difference Is Human
Evermind: Beyond the Bridge - Where the Earth and Sky Meet
Evermind: Beyond the Bridge - All a Man Can Do
Cyril: The Hirsch Effekt - Agitation
Cyril: The Hirsch Effekt - Natans
Cyril: The Hirsch Effekt - Cotard
Lethean: Katatonia - Forsaker
Lethean: Katatonia - _a___er
Lethean: Katatonia - E__de__e
Lethean: Katatonia - Lethean
jingle.boy: Led Zeppelin - Black Dog
jingle.boy: Led Zeppelin - Gallows Pole
jingle.boy: Led Zeppelin - That's The Way
jingle.boy: Led Zeppelin - In My Time Of Dying
Elite: The Ocean - Hadopelagic II: Let Them Believe
Elite: The Ocean - Devonian: Nascent
Elite: The Ocean - Pleistocene
Elite: The Ocean - The Grand Inquisitor II: Roots and Locusts
425: Nightwish - Stargazers
425: Nightwish - Bless The Child
425: Nightwish - The Poet and the Pendulum
425: Nightwish - Ghost Love Score
Guessed letters: B W Ψ D T A M S E R
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Kiss?
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Amorphis is the Walrus?
The Walrus isn't one of the participants. He posted here on the day I opened the roulette saying he'd make up his mind on joining by the end of the weekend, which he never asked to join by then (unless I somehow missed something), so it appears he's a spectator.
Ah, gotchya. Well then, how about Luoto?
Devy - Buddy
Alter Bridge - Anguyen92
Coheed - twosuits
Also, is that Marillion down there?
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Forsaker
Lethean (guessed this already - or rather it was flat-out revealed :lol)
Rush:
The Spirit Of Radio
Dreamline
Marathon
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Rush - The Spirit of Radio, Marathon
Genesis
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Lethean (guessed this already - or rather it was flat-out revealed :lol)
I wasn't sure how else to tell him why I forgot the song! :lol
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Kiss is Stadler. More news at 11
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Cry of Achilles for Alter Bridge
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Kiss
Deuce
She
Plaster Caster
Love 'em And Leave 'em
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Frost*
One of the Led Zep songs, In My Time of Dying
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Already getting close to being finished with this Hangman! Although there is one particular thing that I'm surprised nobody's guessed yet...
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Already getting close to being finished with this Hangman! Although there is one particular thing that I'm surprised nobody's guessed yet...
It's either one of the two bands or Limelight :) Also there's Gallows Pole for LZ
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Frost* - Hyperventilate
Frost* - Towerblock
Anathema - Anathema
Rush - Limelight
Genesis - In the Cage Medley/Afterglow
Genesis is romdrums.
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Mora wins this round imo by sending two of my most favorite songs ever (On the Page and Another Permanent Address) :heart :heart :heart
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Anathema - Anathema
For whatever reason, Hangmanen won't count the song Anathema. I have no idea why, but I have to keep manually entering that when I update my lists, and it looks like I forgot to do that this time!
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Anathema - Anathema
For whatever reason, Hangmanen won't count the song Anathema. I have no idea why, but I have to keep manually entering that when I update my lists, and it looks like I forgot to do that this time!
Gotcha. Maybe because it's identical with the artist name. I could've sworn I'd already seen it guessed, but I figured I'd toss it out there anyway.
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The other Frost* is Welcome to Nowhere, and Black Light Machine.
Rush is King
Marillion is HOF
Anathema is Sacul
Frost* is Nekov
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UFO - One More for the Rodeo
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TAC for the UFO
Puppies for Marillion
HOF for the TBD entry
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And that TBD is Journey
Mother, Father
Rubicon
One More
Trial By Fire
Interesting choices
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Flaming Youth. Stadler managed one decent song. :lol
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And that TBD is Journey
Mother, Father
Rubicon
One More
Trial By Fire
Interesting choices
One of these is amazing, the rest meh
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Flaming Youth. Stadler managed one decent song. :lol
One more than you! :lol :lol
Love to Love
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And that TBD is Journey
Mother, Father
Rubicon
One More
Trial By Fire
Interesting choices
One of these is amazing, the rest meh
Out of curiosity, which one do you find amazing?
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And that TBD is Journey
Mother, Father
Rubicon
One More
Trial By Fire
Interesting choices
One of these is amazing, the rest meh
Out of curiosity, which one do you find amazing?
Mother, Father. :hefdaddy
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And that TBD is Journey
Mother, Father
Rubicon
One More
Trial By Fire
Interesting choices
One of these is amazing, the rest meh
Correction, all amazing. ;-)
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There's probably a Precambrian track in there too. Sent by Elite, maybe?
Whoever it is the lack of PII is slightly disappointing
What do you mean, I sent Pleistocene
And one song from four different albums :)
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The missing Hirsch Effekt songs are
Agitation
Natans
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Marillion - Sugarmice
Planet of the Apes by Devin Townsend Project
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Anathema:
Fragile Dreams
A Natural Disaster
Untouchable Pt. 1
Anathema
Not enough Weather Systems and needs at least one song from WHBWH, but oh well. :P
So much this. It's an interesting choice of songs, but not what I would have sent.
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The other Frost* is Welcome to Nowhere, and Black Light Machine.
Rush is King
Marillion is HOF
Anathema is Sacul
Frost* is Nekov
You know me so well
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Anathema:
Fragile Dreams
A Natural Disaster
Untouchable Pt. 1
Anathema
Not enough Weather Systems and needs at least one song from WHBWH, but oh well. :P
So much this. It's an interesting choice of songs, but not what I would have sent.
Honestly though, including Untouchable Pt. 1 is all that really matters. :tup
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Mora wins this round imo by sending two of my most favorite songs ever (On the Page and Another Permanent Address) :heart :heart :heart
What a coincidence, they are two of my most favorite songs ever as well :angel:
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Mora wins this round imo by sending two of my most favorite songs ever (On the Page and Another Permanent Address) :heart :heart :heart
What a coincidence, they are two of my most favorite songs ever as well :angel:
Didn't you make a top Chroma Key songs list way back when? It might have included OSI and regular Kevin Moore songs too. I recall Colorblind either being #1 or very close to the top, so I was surprised you didn't send it.
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UFO: Profession of Violence
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Possibly the last Hangman update:
Stadler: Kiss - Deuce
Stadler: Kiss - Flaming Youth
Stadler: Kiss - Plaster Caster
Stadler: Kiss - Love 'Em And Leave 'Em
Stadler: Kiss - She
HOF: Journey - Mother, Father
HOF: Journey - One More
HOF: Journey - Rubicon
HOF: Journey - Trial by Fire
TAC: UFO - B_a__ ___d ____ee
TAC: UFO - Love to Love
TAC: UFO - One More for the Rodeo
TAC: UFO - Profession of Violence
Buddyhunter1: Devin Townsend - Addicted!
Buddyhunter1: Devin Townsend - Planet of the Apes
Buddyhunter1: Devin Townsend - Kingdom
Anguyen92: Alter Bridge - Blackbird
Anguyen92: Alter Bridge - Cry of Achilles
Anguyen92: Alter Bridge - __re_er _a_____
Anguyen92: Alter Bridge - Wa_____ __ t_e S__
Sacul: Anathema - Fragile Dreams
Sacul: Anathema - A Natural Disaster
Sacul: Anathema - Untouchable Pt. 1
Sacul: Anathema - Anathema
kingshmegland: Rush - Dreamline
kingshmegland: Rush - The Spirit of Radio
kingshmegland: Rush - Limelight
kingshmegland: Rush - Marathon
Puppies_On_Acid: Marillion - Jigsaw
Puppies_On_Acid: Marillion - Sugarmice
Puppies_On_Acid: Marillion - The Space
Puppies_On_Acid: Marillion - Neverland
Nekov: Frost* - Hyperventilate
Nekov: Frost* - Black Light Machine
Nekov: Frost* - Welcome to Nowhere
Nekov: Frost* - Towerblock
MoraWintersoul: Chroma Key - On the Page
MoraWintersoul: Chroma Key - Another Permanent Address
MoraWintersoul: Chroma Key - Str___
romdrums: Genesis - In The Cage medley/Afterglow
romdrums: Genesis - Los Endos
Luoto: Amorphis - Skyforger
Luoto: Amorphis - Under a Soil and Black Stone
Luoto: Amorphis - Death of a King
Luoto: Amorphis - Daughter of Hate
twosuitsluke: Coheed and Cambria - The Willing Well III: Apollo II: The Telling Truth
twosuitsluke: Coheed and Cambria - Here We Are Juggernaut
twosuitsluke: Coheed and Cambria - Old Flames
twosuitsluke: Coheed and Cambria - In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3
Evermind: Beyond the Bridge - The Call
Evermind: Beyond the Bridge - The Difference Is Human
Evermind: Beyond the Bridge - Where the Earth and Sky Meet
Evermind: Beyond the Bridge - All a Man Can Do
Cyril: The Hirsch Effekt - Agitation
Cyril: The Hirsch Effekt - Natans
Cyril: The Hirsch Effekt - Cotard
Lethean: Katatonia - Forsaker
Lethean: Katatonia - Lacquer
Lethean: Katatonia - E__de__e
Lethean: Katatonia - Lethean
jingle.boy: Led Zeppelin - Black Dog
jingle.boy: Led Zeppelin - Gallows Pole
jingle.boy: Led Zeppelin - That's The Way
jingle.boy: Led Zeppelin - In My Time Of Dying
Elite: The Ocean - Hadopelagic II: Let Them Believe
Elite: The Ocean - Devonian: Nascent
Elite: The Ocean - Pleistocene
Elite: The Ocean - The Grand Inquisitor II: Roots and Locusts
425: Nightwish - Stargazers
425: Nightwish - Bless The Child
425: Nightwish - The Poet and the Pendulum
425: Nightwish - Ghost Love Score
Guessed letters: B W Ψ D T A M S E R
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Los Endos
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Marillion - Jigsaw / The Space
Katatonia - Lacquer
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Anathema:
Fragile Dreams
A Natural Disaster
Untouchable Pt. 1
Anathema
Not enough Weather Systems and needs at least one song from WHBWH, but oh well. :P
So much this. It's an interesting choice of songs, but not what I would have sent.
I preferred to go with a varied selection to see what tickles our host the most rather than just focus on their recent stuff. Plus, they're all bangers :metal
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Didn't you make a top Chroma Key songs list way back when? It might have included OSI and regular Kevin Moore songs too. I recall Colorblind either being #1 or very close to the top, so I was surprised you didn't send it.
You are correct, I did. Colorblind is best when it kicks off a full album listening session :hat
The Amorphis songs are Skyforger, Under A Soil And Black Stone, Death Of A King, Daughter Of Hate.
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Didn't you make a top Chroma Key songs list way back when? It might have included OSI and regular Kevin Moore songs too. I recall Colorblind either being #1 or very close to the top, so I was surprised you didn't send it.
You are correct, I did. Colorblind is best when it kicks off a full album listening session :hat
Is it still on here? I like reading those kinds of lists.
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Didn't you make a top Chroma Key songs list way back when? It might have included OSI and regular Kevin Moore songs too. I recall Colorblind either being #1 or very close to the top, so I was surprised you didn't send it.
You are correct, I did. Colorblind is best when it kicks off a full album listening session :hat
Is it still on here? I like reading those kinds of lists.
Yup, here you go: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=35431.msg1488954#msg1488954
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Yup, here you go: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=35431.msg1488954#msg1488954
Thanks!
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Hey Revenge did you confirm any of my Impression guesses.
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Hey Revenge did you confirm any of my Impression guesses.
All eight guesses were incorrect. I will say that one person so far actually did get one of their guesses right on which impression was for their submission...
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Hey Revenge did you confirm any of my Impression guesses.
All eight guesses were incorrect.
:lol WOW!!
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Are the hangman entries just straight-up in the order submitted? Pretty brutal call-out of me once again. :lol
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Are the hangman entries just straight-up in the order submitted? Pretty brutal call-out of me once again. :lol
No, I shuffled them around a little bit to make it less obvious who sent what.
Somewhat related (or maybe unrelated) to the second part of your comment, if there's one person I feel like I've treated unfairly, it would be Evermind; I don't think anyone saw my first impressions post when I first posted it (it was at 4 AM), but I had somehow forgotten to listen to his submissions until right as I posted the first impressions. So I quickly went to listen to it, and then added it to my first impressions list. At least with you, I didn't somehow immediately forget about your submission! :lol
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Be careful Revenge. TAC is old. The shocking news may kill him. Lol
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Looks like cockblocking is going to be the theme of this roulette. I see 4 bands that I was planning on sending in this round alone :lol
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Looks like cockblocking is going to be the theme of this roulette. I see 4 bands that I was planning on sending in this round alone :lol
I guess that's what happens when I have such a small ban list! :lol
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I’m scratching my head on that last Marillion song. Is it Neverland but the L is accidentally an M?
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I gotta say, it's kind of hard to resist the urge to only listen to my favorites out of all of my Round 1 submissions. You all sent some good stuff, but a few of you sent some AMAZING stuff.
I’m scratching my head on that last Marillion song. Is it Neverland but the L is accidentally an M?
Well... I didn't think I'd typo something as simple as "Neverland". But yeah, that's the one, I'll update that now.
I looked in my Hangmanen entries, and it turns out I accidentally typed "Nevermind". Don't know how that happened... But hey, it's fixed now.
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I gotta say, it's kind of hard to resist the urge to only listen to my favorites out of all of my Round 1 submissions. You all sent some good stuff, but a few of you sent some AMAZING stuff.
You're welcome :biggrin:
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Looks like cockblocking is going to be the theme of this roulette. I see 4 bands that I was planning on sending in this round alone :lol
Amazingly, the band I had my mind on for Round 2 is still available.
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No shit, this might actually be the strongest roulette round I've ever participated in, EVER. My tastes of course, but holy mackerel, there are easily 10 songs I'd put at 9.5/10, not counting any of mine, and if the version is correct, my favorite piece of recorded music EVER is on that list (I didn't send it).
I'm in last place again, aren't I? :) :) :)
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It is an extraordinarily strong round. Though between the combination of a very short banned list and the option to send up to four songs per artist, it better damn well have been!
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If it weren't for UFO I'd be 100% certain I've heard at least one song from every band this round. Neat.
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For me it's all but Chroma Key, which may be a strange thing to admit on Dream Theater Forums, but it's the case.
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For me it's all but Chroma Key, which may be a strange thing to admit on Dream Theater Forums, but it's the case.
Fix that! The first two Chroma Key albums are really good. If you're into chill electronic stuff, anyways.
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For some reason I still haven't listened to the first Chroma Key album, I should fix that soon. You Go Now is excellent.
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For some reason I still haven't listened to the first Chroma Key album, I should fix that soon. You Go Now is excellent.
I'm not big on the third record, I believe it was made as a movie soundtrack (Graveyard Mountain Home), but that's admittedly a different record. You Go Now is one of my all-time favorite albums and Dead Air For Radios is absolutely incredible imo. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. So many great songs.
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I tried Chroma Key a long time ago. 10lbs of meh in a 5lb bucket.
@ Stads... is it one of the Alter Bridge songs?
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I tried Chroma Key a long time ago. 10lbs of meh in a 5lb bucket.
You are high as a kite.
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I tried Chroma Key a long time ago. 10lbs of meh in a 5lb bucket.
You are high as a kite.
Thought the same of you Mr. Music Hottakes. :lol
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I tried Chroma Key a long time ago. 10lbs of meh in a 5lb bucket.
You are high as a kite.
Thought the same of you Mr. Music Hottakes. :lol
(https://i.imgur.com/joeMjMH.gif)
Ya'll can't touch this :hat
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For me it's all but Chroma Key, which may be a strange thing to admit on Dream Theater Forums, but it's the case.
Fix that! The first two Chroma Key albums are really good. If you're into chill electronic stuff, anyways.
Yeah, chill electronic is somewhat hit-or-miss with me, which is why I never looked into them. I will at least listen to the three songs submitted this round, though.
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I tried Chroma Key a long time ago. 10lbs of meh in a 5lb bucket.
@ Stads... is it one of the Alter Bridge songs?
One of the AB songs is definitely one of the 10's, but not the all time favorite musical moment. Oh, and I didn't even notice Nightwish was on the list, so add at least one 10 there, too. My god.
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I tried Chroma Key a long time ago. 10lbs of meh in a 5lb bucket.
You are high as a kite.
Thought the same of you Mr. Music Hottakes. :lol
(https://i.imgur.com/joeMjMH.gif)
Ya'll can't touch this :hat
Challenge excepted! Call me, Mr. Grabby Hands!
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I tried Chroma Key a long time ago. 10lbs of meh in a 5lb bucket.
@ Stads... is it one of the Alter Bridge songs?
One of the AB songs is definitely one of the 10's, but not the all time favorite musical moment. Oh, and I didn't even notice Nightwish was on the list, so add at least one 10 there, too. My god.
The Hirsch Effekt, amirite?
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I tried Chroma Key a long time ago. 10lbs of meh in a 5lb bucket.
You are high as a kite.
Thought the same of you Mr. Music Hottakes. :lol
(https://i.imgur.com/joeMjMH.gif)
Ya'll can't touch this :hat
Challenge excepted! Call me, Mr. Grabby Hands!
President King! :lol
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I tried Chroma Key a long time ago. 10lbs of meh in a 5lb bucket.
@ Stads... is it one of the Alter Bridge songs?
One of the AB songs is definitely one of the 10's, but not the all time favorite musical moment. Oh, and I didn't even notice Nightwish was on the list, so add at least one 10 there, too. My god.
The Hirsch Effekt, amirite?
Ah, no. (Though I like Cotard) :)
Hint: there's a connection between the screen name of the submitter and the high point of the song (for me).
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One of the Marillion tracks, then?
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One of the Marillion tracks, then?
HAHA, no. Older (the music, not the submitter). (And this might give it away, but "Marillion" might also be a hint.)
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No shit, this might actually be the strongest roulette round I've ever participated in, EVER. My tastes of course, but holy mackerel, there are easily 10 songs I'd put at 9.5/10, not counting any of mine, and if the version is correct, my favorite piece of recorded music EVER is on that list (I didn't send it).
I'm in last place again, aren't I? :) :) :)
I'm getting to the song ratings, and I think there's at least a couple that will get a rating as high as a 9.5. I don't know what the other four rounds will give me, but I agree with this being quite a strong round overall!
As for that last part... All I'll say on that, is that it's going to be tricky to properly rank each submission.
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One of the Marillion tracks, then?
HAHA, no. Older (the music, not the submitter). (And this might give it away, but "Marillion" might also be a hint.)
Journey - Trial of Fire
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This I will say for certain, it's all going to go downhill from here for me. Either I send you some modern post-grunge/alt metal stuff or I may go off the deep end and send you some JRock/JPop (the good kind, not the way-too high pitched overproduced kind).
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One of the Marillion tracks, then?
HAHA, no. Older (the music, not the submitter). (And this might give it away, but "Marillion" might also be a hint.)
Journey - Trial of Fire
Not being smart, just want to follow your thinking... what's the Marillion connection?
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Okay, it's a Journey song then.
The connection is in one of the Song of Ice and Fire books there's a jester called 'Marillion' who's present when someone goes on trial. If I remember correctly it's in the first or second book, but I can't really remember the exact details and context. It's been a while since I read the books. It's a long shot, for sure :lol
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Okay, it's a Journey song then.
The connection is in one of the Song of Ice and Fire books there's a jester called 'Marillion' who's present when someone goes on trial. If I remember correctly it's in the first or second book, but I can't really remember the exact details and context. It's been a while since I read the books. It's a long shot, for sure :lol
Huh. That ain't it, but I sort of want it to be, since that's a boss answer! :)
It's not Journey, but one of their songs (Mother, Father) would get a 10 from me.
One more hint: the part that is the high point for me isn't actually the titled song.
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Okay, it's a Journey song then.
The connection is in one of the Song of Ice and Fire books there's a jester called 'Marillion' who's present when someone goes on trial. If I remember correctly it's in the first or second book, but I can't really remember the exact details and context. It's been a while since I read the books. It's a long shot, for sure :lol
Huh. That ain't it, but I sort of want it to be, since that's a boss answer! :)
It's not Journey, but one of their songs (Mother, Father) would get a 10 from me.
One more hint: the part that is the high point for me isn't actually the titled song.
I wouldn't know for sure, but I have a feeling it may be a Rush song.
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And I hope you feel the same Revenge. :lol
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Okay, it's a Journey song then.
The connection is in one of the Song of Ice and Fire books there's a jester called 'Marillion' who's present when someone goes on trial. If I remember correctly it's in the first or second book, but I can't really remember the exact details and context. It's been a while since I read the books. It's a long shot, for sure :lol
Huh. That ain't it, but I sort of want it to be, since that's a boss answer! :)
It's not Journey, but one of their songs (Mother, Father) would get a 10 from me.
One more hint: the part that is the high point for me isn't actually the titled song.
I’m guessing it’s Afterglow or some part of that Genesis medley.
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Okay, it's a Journey song then.
The connection is in one of the Song of Ice and Fire books there's a jester called 'Marillion' who's present when someone goes on trial. If I remember correctly it's in the first or second book, but I can't really remember the exact details and context. It's been a while since I read the books. It's a long shot, for sure :lol
Huh. That ain't it, but I sort of want it to be, since that's a boss answer! :)
It's not Journey, but one of their songs (Mother, Father) would get a 10 from me.
One more hint: the part that is the high point for me isn't actually the titled song.
I’m guessing it’s Afterglow or some part of that Genesis medley.
Boom. The In The Cage/Afterglow Medley - particularly the medley portion (thus the title hint) - from Three Sides Live is hands down my favorite musical passage. With Phil and Chester on double drums (thus the "RomDRUMS" hint) and Tony's soloing..... I may need a minute. And we all know that Marillion was accused early on of being a Genesis clone (thus that hint).
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I tried Chroma Key a long time ago. 10lbs of meh in a 5lb bucket.
I'd call you 300lb of bad takes for this, but I can't even do that because you look good :censored
and it would be rude to insult such an old man anyway
Okay, it's a Journey song then.
The connection is in one of the Song of Ice and Fire books there's a jester called 'Marillion'
Trivia: George Martin hates being asked about the name, because he says he hadn't heard about the band when he named the character but everyone assumes there is a connection and when they ask him deep Marillion questions and make song puns, fans drive him nuts.
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I tried Chroma Key a long time ago. 10lbs of meh in a 5lb bucket.
I'd call you 300lb of bad takes for this, but I can't even do that because you look good :censored
and it would be rude to insult such an old man anyway
:rollin
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I'd laugh but I'm older. Lol
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Looks like cockblocking is going to be the theme of this roulette. I see 4 bands that I was planning on sending in this round alone :lol
I think Round Two is going to be even more of the same. I’m actually surprised at the bands that weren’t used!
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Looks like cockblocking is going to be the theme of this roulette. I see 4 bands that I was planning on sending in this round alone :lol
I think Round Two is going to be even more of the same. I’m actually surprised at the bands that weren’t used!
Same here, I was expecting more of the popular artists. Not that there weren't very many, but I hadn't expected the more relatively obscure ones to show up in the first round.
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Same here, I was expecting more of the popular artists. Not that there weren't very many, but I hadn't expected the more relatively obscure ones to show up in the first round.
Despite Amorphis being an all-time favorite of mine, this was the first time I actually sent them in a roulette. Previously they've either been banned or the time just wasn't right. The Ocean just released a new album so they're fresh on people's minds right now, I had them lined up for later rounds.
Generally speaking I'm mostly leaving out the most popular prog or classic rock/metal bands because other participants are likely to send them anyway. There's just so much great music!
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Looks like cockblocking is going to be the theme of this roulette. I see 4 bands that I was planning on sending in this round alone :lol
I think Round Two is going to be even more of the same. I’m actually surprised at the bands that weren’t used!
i called out 5 artists i expected to be sent round 1 in my PM to revenge and only one got used
i doubt i will be getting cockblocked on any of my submissions as i, stupidly, decided to mostly send my obscure faves nobody else likes
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Looks like cockblocking is going to be the theme of this roulette. I see 4 bands that I was planning on sending in this round alone :lol
I think Round Two is going to be even more of the same. I’m actually surprised at the bands that weren’t used!
Same here, I was expecting more of the popular artists. Not that there weren't very many, but I hadn't expected the more relatively obscure ones to show up in the first round.
I'm not even sure what the "relatively obscure" artists would be this round, tbh. :lol
I want to say UFO but that might just be me not being old enough.
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I'm not even sure what the "relatively obscure" artists would be this round, tbh. :lol
I want to say UFO but that might just be me not being old enough.
Of the artists sent this round, I'd say the "relatively obscure" ones are Alter Bridge, Beyond the Bridge, The Hirsch Effekt, Katatonia, Amorphis, and UFO. That's just because I've rarely/never heard about these bands before this roulette.
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Don't worry. As this Roulette goes on, you'll be saying obscure a lot.
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Don't worry. As this Roulette goes on, you'll be saying obscure a lot.
Round 5 impressions:
1. Pretty obscure artist, I like them
2. Pretty obscure artist, I kinda like them
3. Pretty obscure artist, I sort of like them
4. Pretty obscure artist, I really like them...
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5. GOD WHY THIS SUCKS
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5. GOD WHY THIS SUCKS
I am most interested in your submissions. Partially because [ROUND 1 SPOILERS], but mainly because I can kind of relate to how you seem to have odd and unique tastes (and, yes, perhaps obscure as well). I probably won't even ask you to resend any future submission unless maybe I get a really bad feeling about any future rounds, just because I'm that interested to hear what stuff you've sent me.
(Just to clarify, I have not listened to any of your Round 2-5 submissions.)
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I'm not even sure what the "relatively obscure" artists would be this round, tbh. :lol
I want to say UFO but that might just be me not being old enough.
Of the artists sent this round, I'd say the "relatively obscure" ones are Alter Bridge, Beyond the Bridge, The Hirsch Effekt, Katatonia, Amorphis, and UFO. That's just because I've rarely/never heard about these bands before this roulette.
Yeah that's fair. Most of us only know of The Hirsch Effekt because Cyril keeps sending them in roulettes. :lol
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I'm not even sure what the "relatively obscure" artists would be this round, tbh. :lol
I want to say UFO but that might just be me not being old enough.
Of the artists sent this round, I'd say the "relatively obscure" ones are Alter Bridge, Beyond the Bridge, The Hirsch Effekt, Katatonia, Amorphis, and UFO. That's just because I've rarely/never heard about these bands before this roulette.
Yeah that's fair. Most of us only know of The Hirsch Effekt because Cyril keeps sending them in roulettes. :lol
That's how you keep a band alive that no one seems to like (I like The Hirsch Effekt, btw). It's why I keep pimping Moonsorrow here.
Edit - Which reminds me.......BRB!
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That's how you keep a band alive that no one seems to like (I like The Hirsch Effekt, btw). It's why I keep pimping Moonsorrow here.
Edit - Which reminds me.......BRB!
I like Moonsorrow. :heart At least the most recent album. I'll get around to some others in the near future, probably.
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That's how you keep a band alive that no one seems to like (I like The Hirsch Effekt, btw). It's why I keep pimping Moonsorrow here.
Edit - Which reminds me.......BRB!
I like Moonsorrow. :heart At least the most recent album. I'll get around to some others in the near future, probably.
Their most recent album is really really good, but for my their best is the run of Kivenkantaja, Verisakeet, and V: Havitetty.
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the hirsch effekt are really great that's why i send them to everyone
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I'm not even sure what the "relatively obscure" artists would be this round, tbh. :lol
I want to say UFO but that might just be me not being old enough.
Of the artists sent this round, I'd say the "relatively obscure" ones are Alter Bridge, Beyond the Bridge, The Hirsch Effekt, Katatonia, Amorphis, and UFO. That's just because I've rarely/never heard about these bands before this roulette.
Ehhh, I honestly don't blame you for that. Unless you follow wrestling 10-15 years ago or follow Slash's solo band, you probably wouldn't know them. They rarely get plays on Sirius XM Octane (which is supposed to be the go-to station for a band like them to get radio airplay) unlike their more well-known contemporaries (which I won't list here since it may be a future submission). The band, that 3/4ths of the guys used to be in, had their popularity peak roughly 2-3 years before you were born.
Honestly, I'm quite amazed how this band is still alive and relatively surviving well for 16 years, when many other alt metal/nu-metal/post-grunge bands that started around the 2000s seemed to fade to obscurity. I'm still amazed on how I'm still a big fan of theirs for 13 of those years when many bands I've discovered back then, I don't like as much now.
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I'm not even sure what the "relatively obscure" artists would be this round, tbh. :lol
I want to say UFO but that might just be me not being old enough.
Of the artists sent this round, I'd say the "relatively obscure" ones are Alter Bridge, Beyond the Bridge, The Hirsch Effekt, Katatonia, Amorphis, and UFO. That's just because I've rarely/never heard about these bands before this roulette.
Ehhh, I honestly don't blame you for that. Unless you follow wrestling 10-15 years ago or follow Slash's solo band, you probably wouldn't know them. They rarely get plays on Sirius XM Octane (which is supposed to be the go-to station for a band like them to get radio airplay) unlike their more well-known contemporaries (which I won't list here since it may be a future submission). The band, that 3/4ths of the guys used to be in, had their popularity peak roughly 2-3 years before you were born.
Honestly, I'm quite amazed how this band is still alive and relatively surviving well for 16 years, when many other alt metal/nu-metal/post-grunge bands that started around the 2000s seemed to fade to obscurity. I'm still amazed on how I'm still a big fan of theirs for 13 of those years when many bands I've discovered back then, I don't like as much now.
It is quite astounding to be fair. Just for the record, I prefer Creed as well, so shoot me :rollin
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Still a couple days away from the results. As I mentioned, I'll be scoring each song on a scale of 1 to 10, with quarter increments, so I thought now would be as good a time as any to mention what each number represents, exactly:
10 - Perfect. Or at least so close to perfection that the difference is basically negligible. It's possible to go higher than 10, in a way, but that will be explained if such an event occurs.
9 - Amazing. Not quite perfection, but it's a very impressive and admirable effort nonetheless.
8 - Great. It might have minor flaws, or perhaps it's simply not the greatest thing ever, but this is definitely an above-average song.
7 - Good. More or less enjoyable from start to finish.
6 - Decent. Not bad by any means, but it's either held back by some kind of flaw or simply isn't anything all that impressive.
5 - Mediocre. I wouldn't necessarily call it bad, but it's quite underwhelming and most likely has some issues.
4 - Bad. Not the worst thing in the world, of course, but it's bad enough that I'd call it... well, bad.
3 - Awful. Even if there's something to enjoy here, everything else about the song is so poor that it's a waste.
2 - Terrible. The song in question is so irritating and/or is of such a poor quality that it bothers me.
1 - Abysmal. I think it speaks for itself, really; this is utterly horrendous on every single level, and bluntly, my life would probably be inherently better if I never listened to it.
It's possible to score lower than a 1, in which case I wouldn't be sure whether to be more shocked that a song so bad can actually exist, or that I actually bothered to listen to it for sake of review.
Unless you're intentionally trying to send me the worst things ever, I highly doubt I'll end up scoring a song below a 3/10. I can at least say that no one song in Round 1 is anywhere close to being that bad.
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Unless you're intentionally trying to send me the worst things ever, I highly doubt I'll end up scoring a song below a 3/10. I can at least say that no one song in Round 1 is anywhere close to being that bad.
ahh, a challenge :corn
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Honestly, I'm quite amazed how this band is still alive and relatively surviving well for 16 years, when many other alt metal/nu-metal/post-grunge bands that started around the 2000s seemed to fade to obscurity.
Not a big mystery, it's because they are actually good :corn I mean, sure, before Fortress (which has a timeless quality to it), those albums definitely bear a mark of the time they were made in, but they don't feel manufactured or pushed into a genre hole.
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I tried Chroma Key a long time ago. 10lbs of meh in a 5lb bucket.
I'd call you 300lb of bad takes for this, but I can't even do that because you look good :censored
and it would be rude to insult such an old man anyway
You know you love my takes. BTW, when are YOU running that roulette you said you would?
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BTW, when are YOU running that roulette you said you would?
When I get exactly two more seconds of free time per day, which would allow me to finish it somewhere in the next century :rollin
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BTW, when are YOU running that roulette you said you would?
When I get exactly two more seconds of free time per day, which would allow me to finish it somewhere in the next century :rollin
You have access to the same 24 hours in a day that the rest of humanity does. :biggrin:
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My dad doesn't know what day or time it his. To him it could be a 27 hour day.
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Admittedly, I am somewhat behind on giving my final ratings for each artist/song. But I've got a whole day tomorrow (or today, it's already Saturday in my timezone), so I will do my best to get the rest of these ratings finished so I can get the results out on Sunday. I've gotten through 8 artists' ratings thus far, so that leaves me with 11 more.
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Don't sweat it! You have a lot of music to listen to and that takes times. You should also never be too efficient in the first round. Otherwise we'll expect the same from the next rounds and we'll be a pain in the ass when you take too much time ;D
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Don't sweat it! You have a lot of music to listen to and that takes times. You should also never be too efficient in the first round. Otherwise we'll expect the same from the next rounds and we'll be a pain in the ass when you take too much time ;D
:iagree:
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You're going fast for how much music you have to listen to. :P
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Seeing as Led Zeppelin is one of the bands for Round 1 of this roulette, I thought it'd be related enough to this thread to share a little story. If nothing else, I think jingle.boy might be interested to hear about this.
Earlier today, I was riding with my dad to a supermarket, and because he forgot his phone, he just turned on the radio. And at some point... Led Zeppelin came on. It wasn't one of the songs in my submission (I don't know what song it was called, though), but anyway, my dad started groaning and complained about how much he hates Led Zeppelin. I just stayed quiet, though he did ask if I've heard them before. I pretended that I'd never heard them before, though, and then my dad went on to talk about how the band should've been "put on trial for war crimes" or something.
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...is your dad okay???
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...is your dad okay???
If you're talking about that last part, he was just saying that as a joke. My dad's perfectly fine, he just likes to rant about stuff he doesn't like.
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I’ve never really liked Led Zeppelin either to be honest.
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Hey Revenge, how old is your father?
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Hey Revenge, how old is your father?
I believe he is 44.
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I’ve never really liked Led Zeppelin either to be honest.
What turned you off on them HOF?
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Hey Revenge, how old is your father?
I believe he is 44.
Wow! Kingshmegland had a beard by the time your father was born.
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I’ve never really liked Led Zeppelin either to be honest.
What turned you off on them HOF?
Partly just too much classic rock radio growing up. Partly because they were the “cool” band everyone was supposed to like just because. Partly because they are too bluesy maybe. Don’t get me wrong, I like a few of their songs just fine and get their place in rock history. I just have never been all that moved by their music.
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I know I just asked Revenge, but HOF how old are you? How much was classic rock part of your upbringing?
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Completely understand.
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I know I just asked Revenge, but HOF how old are you? How much was classic rock part of your upbringing?
I’m a few years younger than Revenge’s dad. Not old enough to be his dad, but maybe the cool younger uncle. ;-)
I spent pretty much the duration of the 90s listening to a mix of classic rock and alternative rock radio. I would say I listened to it more than the average kid my age due to some of the way I was raised (I had a lot of time at home and a lot of freedom to listen to whatever from a young age). I also had two older brothers who were fans, so that added a bit to the over kill.
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I grew up hearing Led Zeppelin on the radio constantly. But they've never been a favorite of mine either. I think they are a great band, but I could never really relate to Robert Plant.
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...is your dad okay???
If you're talking about that last part, he was just saying that as a joke. My dad's perfectly fine, he just likes to rant about stuff he doesn't like.
I beg to differ!!!
And to the rest of you .... TASTESTM!! Some of you know my story about them. They are and always will be my favorite band, and the one that had the biggest impact of anything (beyond my wife and children) in my life. Everyone has *that* band.
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...is your dad okay???
If you're talking about that last part, he was just saying that as a joke. My dad's perfectly fine, he just likes to rant about stuff he doesn't like.
I beg to differ!!!
And to the rest of you .... TASTESTM!! Some of you know my story about them. They are and always will be my favorite band, and the one that had the biggest impact of anything (beyond my wife and children) in my life. Everyone has *that* band.
Yep! And for me it was Rush!
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...is your dad okay???
If you're talking about that last part, he was just saying that as a joke. My dad's perfectly fine, he just likes to rant about stuff he doesn't like.
Some of you know my story about them. They are and always will be my favorite band, and the one that had the biggest impact of anything (beyond my wife and children) in my life. Everyone has *that* band.
Revenge, you'll really hurt my feelings if I get a bad score.
;D
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I grew up hearing Led Zeppelin on the radio constantly. But they've never been a favorite of mine either. I think they are a great band, but I could never really relate to Robert Plant.
Well, it's not anyone can actually relate to Robert Plant in the 1970s in any time period. The man had one of the biggest larger-than-life package in his prime.
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...is your dad okay???
If you're talking about that last part, he was just saying that as a joke. My dad's perfectly fine, he just likes to rant about stuff he doesn't like.
Some of you know my story about them. They are and always will be my favorite band, and the one that had the biggest impact of anything (beyond my wife and children) in my life. Everyone has *that* band.
Revenge, you'll really hurt my feelings if I get a bad score.
;D
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Tim asked us to post these bands then he Hope's for your demise Chad. :lol
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Tim asked us to post these bands then he Hope's for your demise Chad. :lol
It was Chad's idea, fool!
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You went with it and laughed like an evil curmudgeon.
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You went with it and laughed like an evil curmudgeon.
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You know it, and I know it. Lol
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...is your dad okay???
If you're talking about that last part, he was just saying that as a joke. My dad's perfectly fine, he just likes to rant about stuff he doesn't like.
I beg to differ!!!
And to the rest of you .... TASTESTM!! Some of you know my story about them. They are and always will be my favorite band, and the one that had the biggest impact of anything (beyond my wife and children) in my life. Everyone has *that* band.
Yep! And for me it was Rush!
For me it was Rush too. I won't go as far as saying that they'll always be my one and only absolute favorite band, because I guess I feel like there's room at the top for more than one band. But Rush is definitely the band that got this all started for me, and I love all eras of their music and love pretty much everything about them.
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...is your dad okay???
If you're talking about that last part, he was just saying that as a joke. My dad's perfectly fine, he just likes to rant about stuff he doesn't like.
I beg to differ!!!
And to the rest of you .... TASTESTM!! Some of you know my story about them. They are and always will be my favorite band, and the one that had the biggest impact of anything (beyond my wife and children) in my life. Everyone has *that* band.
Yep! And for me it was Rush!
For me it was Rush too. I won't go as far as saying that they'll always be my one and only absolute favorite band, because I guess I feel like there's room at the top for more than one band. But Rush is definitely the band that got this all started for me, and I love all eras of their music and love pretty much everything about them.
For me, it could've been one of three things. Whatever one it was, though, Dream Theater was the one that basically took my love for music to its peak. I'm sure it's unsurprising to hear on a Dream Theater forum that my favorite band is Dream Theater, but I honestly don't think I'll ever find any artist that's better than Dream Theater for me.
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...is your dad okay???
If you're talking about that last part, he was just saying that as a joke. My dad's perfectly fine, he just likes to rant about stuff he doesn't like.
I beg to differ!!!
And to the rest of you .... TASTESTM!! Some of you know my story about them. They are and always will be my favorite band, and the one that had the biggest impact of anything (beyond my wife and children) in my life. Everyone has *that* band.
Yep! And for me it was Rush!
For me it was Rush too. I won't go as far as saying that they'll always be my one and only absolute favorite band, because I guess I feel like there's room at the top for more than one band. But Rush is definitely the band that got this all started for me, and I love all eras of their music and love pretty much everything about them.
Of course not - there's no Katatonia members involved!
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...is your dad okay???
If you're talking about that last part, he was just saying that as a joke. My dad's perfectly fine, he just likes to rant about stuff he doesn't like.
I beg to differ!!!
And to the rest of you .... TASTESTM!! Some of you know my story about them. They are and always will be my favorite band, and the one that had the biggest impact of anything (beyond my wife and children) in my life. Everyone has *that* band.
Yep! And for me it was Rush!
For me it was Rush too. I won't go as far as saying that they'll always be my one and only absolute favorite band, because I guess I feel like there's room at the top for more than one band. But Rush is definitely the band that got this all started for me, and I love all eras of their music and love pretty much everything about them.
For me, it could've been one of three things. Whatever one it was, though, Dream Theater was the one that basically took my love for music to its peak. I'm sure it's unsurprising to hear on a Dream Theater forum that my favorite band is Dream Theater, but I honestly don't think I'll ever find any artist that's better than Dream Theater for me.
Rush is what led me to Dream Theater. :) And Dream Theater is definitely at the top there with Rush. I know a lot of posters have lost interest in DT but I'm not one of them. I think their new albums are awesome and I love The Astonishing, and Mike Mangini being in the band.
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...is your dad okay???
If you're talking about that last part, he was just saying that as a joke. My dad's perfectly fine, he just likes to rant about stuff he doesn't like.
I beg to differ!!!
And to the rest of you .... TASTESTM!! Some of you know my story about them. They are and always will be my favorite band, and the one that had the biggest impact of anything (beyond my wife and children) in my life. Everyone has *that* band.
Yep! And for me it was Rush!
For me it was Rush too. I won't go as far as saying that they'll always be my one and only absolute favorite band, because I guess I feel like there's room at the top for more than one band. But Rush is definitely the band that got this all started for me, and I love all eras of their music and love pretty much everything about them.
Of course not - there's no Katatonia members involved!
:lol Rush is perfect as they are. (Or I guess I should say were, but I don't like to.)
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For me, it could've been one of three things. Whatever one it was, though, Dream Theater was the one that basically took my love for music to its peak. I'm sure it's unsurprising to hear on a Dream Theater forum that my favorite band is Dream Theater, but I honestly don't think I'll ever find any artist that's better than Dream Theater for me.
Rush is what led me to Dream Theater. :) And Dream Theater is definitely at the top there with Rush. I know a lot of posters have lost interest in DT but I'm not one of them. I think their new albums are awesome and I love The Astonishing, and Mike Mangini being in the band.
To me, Dream Theater can do no wrong. The only song they've made that I even kind of dislike is Honor Thy Father, but A) I wouldn't even call it an outright bad song, and B) considering they've made nothing else like it, I see it as more of a failed experiment than a bad Dream Theater song. Haken and (maybe) Porcupine Tree are two other bands who can do no wrong, in my eyes.
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For me, it could've been one of three things. Whatever one it was, though, Dream Theater was the one that basically took my love for music to its peak. I'm sure it's unsurprising to hear on a Dream Theater forum that my favorite band is Dream Theater, but I honestly don't think I'll ever find any artist that's better than Dream Theater for me.
Rush is what led me to Dream Theater. :) And Dream Theater is definitely at the top there with Rush. I know a lot of posters have lost interest in DT but I'm not one of them. I think their new albums are awesome and I love The Astonishing, and Mike Mangini being in the band.
To me, Dream Theater can do no wrong. The only song they've made that I even kind of dislike is Honor Thy Father, but A) I wouldn't even call it an outright bad song, and B) considering they've made nothing else like it, I see it as more of a failed experiment than a bad Dream Theater song. Haken and (maybe) Porcupine Tree are two other bands who can do no wrong, in my eyes.
I think we're pretty much on the same page. I didn't, and don't, like MP's vocals, so songs like Constant Motion can irritate me sometimes, but I also don't think they're bad songs.
(Katatonia also has no bad songs... :))
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For me, it could've been one of three things. Whatever one it was, though, Dream Theater was the one that basically took my love for music to its peak. I'm sure it's unsurprising to hear on a Dream Theater forum that my favorite band is Dream Theater, but I honestly don't think I'll ever find any artist that's better than Dream Theater for me.
Rush is what led me to Dream Theater. :) And Dream Theater is definitely at the top there with Rush. I know a lot of posters have lost interest in DT but I'm not one of them. I think their new albums are awesome and I love The Astonishing, and Mike Mangini being in the band.
To me, Dream Theater can do no wrong. The only song they've made that I even kind of dislike is Honor Thy Father, but A) I wouldn't even call it an outright bad song, and B) considering they've made nothing else like it, I see it as more of a failed experiment than a bad Dream Theater song. Haken and (maybe) Porcupine Tree are two other bands who can do no wrong, in my eyes.
I think we're pretty much on the same page. I didn't, and don't, like MP's vocals, so songs like Constant Motion can irritate me sometimes, but I also don't think they're bad songs.
(Katatonia also has no bad songs... :))
I've never disliked Portnoy's vocals. I get why people might not like them, especially in songs like A Nightmare to Remember and The Dark Eternal Night, but even in those songs I don't have any problems with them.
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THAT band for me will always be Metallica! They changed my life and I've never been obsessed with a band in any way like it since.
Going back to Led Zep, I have a deep love for them as they are one of only three bands that my Dad and I both loved. Music was life for my Dad, and I inherited that from him hard. He didn't get metal though and always asked when I'd 'grow out of it' :lol but Led Zep, The Beatles and The Dear Hunter (I managed to get him into them before he passed away) were the three bands we both fanboyed over.
:heart
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@ Luke ... :tup That's awesome.
My dad did nothing for me musically. He was fairly apathetic (I NEVER remember him actively listening to music other than having the radio on as background noise while in his office). Ultimately, he did become a fan of country music in his later years. So, a father's tastes make no difference as far as I'm concerned. I'm just glad Revenge isn't Klingon, otherwise he would have to own the sins of his father. :lol
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Jingle, it's always interesting to hear people's musical journey. Did you have any family members who helped shape your tastes?
My Dad had an input on shaping my tastes for sure (he also got me into Stevie Wonder), but my main influence was my older (by 8 years) brother. He was a metal head so I grew up playing SNES, or drawing with him, whilst listening to Metallica, Slayer, Sepultura, Pantera etc. I wasn't interested in the music at the time at all, but it all sunk into my musical DNA. Even my older sister, who was into Britpop, added into the melting pot of what I came to enjoy in music.
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The day of results is upon us, and... I'm still behind. I have 12 out of 19 artists scored and ready for final review. This is the kind of stuff that happens when you are absorbed in an amazing JRPG.
Anyway, to get these results out without leaving everyone to wait too long, I've decided to do what I've seen some people do, and split the results into three parts.
I'll post one part relatively soon, the second part a few hours or so from now, and the third part might end up arriving on Monday. I apologize for the delay for the results as a whole, and hopefully in the next round, I'll be more consistent.
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That's cool with me. What's the JRPG?
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That's cool with me. What's the JRPG?
Xenoblade Chronicles 2. I loved the first game, and I'm loving this one, too.
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Jingle, it's always interesting to hear people's musical journey. Did you have any family members who helped shape your tastes?
Not really. My brother playing Black Dog because it was the first CD *he* ever bought and played on his brand new stereo system is about it. After that, it was all my own discovery, and recommendations of friends.
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For me, it could've been one of three things. Whatever one it was, though, Dream Theater was the one that basically took my love for music to its peak. I'm sure it's unsurprising to hear on a Dream Theater forum that my favorite band is Dream Theater, but I honestly don't think I'll ever find any artist that's better than Dream Theater for me.
Rush is what led me to Dream Theater. :) And Dream Theater is definitely at the top there with Rush. I know a lot of posters have lost interest in DT but I'm not one of them. I think their new albums are awesome and I love The Astonishing, and Mike Mangini being in the band.
To me, Dream Theater can do no wrong. The only song they've made that I even kind of dislike is Honor Thy Father, but A) I wouldn't even call it an outright bad song, and B) considering they've made nothing else like it, I see it as more of a failed experiment than a bad Dream Theater song. Haken and (maybe) Porcupine Tree are two other bands who can do no wrong, in my eyes.
I think we're pretty much on the same page. I didn't, and don't, like MP's vocals, so songs like Constant Motion can irritate me sometimes, but I also don't think they're bad songs.
(Katatonia also has no bad songs... :))
I've never disliked Portnoy's vocals. I get why people might not like them, especially in songs like A Nightmare to Remember and The Dark Eternal Night, but even in those songs I don't have any problems with them.
Yeah I really dislike those vocals. But I like the songs otherwise, especially A Nightmare to Remember. Even after I became a bit more accepting of harsh vocals, I never cared for that. Earlier this year I went through the whole discography in reverse order and was reminded yet again how much he irritated me. It was weird because at the time he left, I was very upset and it was like the end of the world; his vocals were just like something I had to put up with but I did not want him leaving the band. But in the end I'm really glad it happened and I think the last 4 albums are awesome. I still like SC and Black Clouds, but I like the current live versions of the songs you mentioned way better. I'm just glad MM seemingly has no desire to sing. :)
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Here we are: Part 1/3 of the Round 1 results!
kingshmegland
Rush
First impression: While they seem to stick with the same general sound, they manage to make each song unique despite that.
Final review: I've heard quite a few Rush songs before; specifically, I've heard 2112, YYZ, and every song on the albums A Farewell To Kings and Hemispheres. But I've never quite really gotten into them (even if I love 2112). With these submissions, however, I think I finally "get" them now. What I like about Rush is that, as I mentioned in my first impressions, they use the same general sound and aesthetic for their songs, but each one sounds unique. Of the four songs I was sent, I could probably tell them apart without much difficulty. Speaking of those songs, my favorite would either be “Dreamline” or “The Spirit of Radio”, probably the latter. TSoR has a really nice opening (that’s a little less reminiscent of The Best of Times’ guitar intro than people let on), and I especially love that guitar riff after the intro. The other two songs, “Limelight” and “Marathon” are pretty good as well, though a little less remarkable, I feel. I might start going through their whole discography at this point! These guys are great.
Dreamline - 8.5/10
The Spirit of Radio - 8.5/10
Limelight - 8/10
Marathon - 7.75
Roulette score: 8.2
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Sacul
Anathema
First impression: A couple really great songs, and I have a feeling the other ones will grow on me a lot.
Final review: This is an interesting one. Anathema is one of those bands where it’s about conveying a lot of emotion, and I would say overall they do a pretty good job. My favorite, as well as the best example of their emotion, is the song “Anathema”. It’s a pretty nice song on its own, but there’s a cathartic climax a little towards the end of the song, with the line “And I loved you!” being sung in a very powerful way. The vocals are usually well-done on other songs, and at the very least they do interesting things with them. “A Natural Disaster” features some female vocals that I don’t particularly enjoy, but they’re okay. At the end, they basically decide to do the ending to Mellotron Scratch where everything except the vocals fade out, except instead of this lasting 5 seconds, it lasts 50 seconds. Not that that’s necessarily a bad thing, though. So yeah, Anathema is pretty good; I may check out more of their stuff in the near future.
Fragile Dreams - 8.25/10
A Natural Disaster - 7.75/10
Untouchable Pt. 1 - 8/10
Anathema - 8.75
Roulette score: 8.2
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Elite
The Ocean
First impression: Quite interesting. I'll need more listens to gauge how much I like this one.
Final review: This one is a little hard to discuss. I like this band. I know I do. But I think this one will take a while to really grow on me. What I mean, is that I don’t really remember much about their songs after listening to them. To describe them, they are primarily metal, but they have a lot of mellow moments interspersed throughout the songs. It’s kind of hard to talk about any of the songs individually, since there’s not much I remember. I know I think all of these songs are great, though; I just need a lot more time with this music to really solidify my feelings.
Hadopelagic II: Let Them Believe - 8/10
Devonian: Nascent - 8.25/10
Pleistocene - 8.25/10
The Grand Inquisitor II: Roots and Locusts - 8/10
Roulette score: 8.1
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Evermind
Beyond the Bridge
First impression: The vocals seem a little too aggressive for the music at times, but other than that, this is very good.
Final review: My first impression contains the only thing I could call a flaw with this band. Maybe that makes me sound like I love these guys a lot more than I do, but when I think about it, even if they’re not my favorite of the artists in Round 1, I think they might have the least amount of problems of them all. And that one issue I mentioned? That only applies to two of the four songs, anyway. My favorite of the songs is “Where the Earth and Sky Meet”, which partly feels like a fusion between Dream Theater’s “Begin Again” and Transatlantic’s “Bridge Across Forever”. And that is a compliment in every sense of the word. I also really liked “The Call”, even despite the vocals being a bit much at times. And the other two songs are so good, too. I just want to listen to the whole album that these songs are from. Very good stuff right here!
The Call - 8.5/10
The Difference is Human - 8.5/10
Where the Earth and Sky Meet - 9/10
All a Man Can Do - 8.25/10
Roulette score: 8.6
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Nekov
Frost*
First impression: I don't think I care for the vocals, at all, but the music is really good and greatly makes up for the weak vocals.
Final review: I have to be honest… If the vocals were significantly better, this could almost guarantee this band to be the best artist of Round 1. Or at the very least it’d be in the Top 3. Instead, it ranks a bit lower. I know I’m giving off a somewhat negative impression, but let me just say, when this band does good, it does AMAZING THINGS. It probably will not surprise anyone after reading this to learn that my favorite song in the submission is “Hyperventilate”, a 7-minute instrumental track. It’s a very beautiful piece of music, and I’d listen to this over at least half of Dream Theater’s instrumental tracks. I also really enjoyed “Black Light Machine”. While there are vocals, I’ve grown to like them a little better on this song. Plus, there aren’t many vocals to begin with, so that leaves more room for the amazing instrumentals! However. The other two songs are… subpar. “Towerblock” in particular has unpleasant vocals, and while I do like the focus on a more electronic genre, it feels way too erratic at times. It’s an okay song, but after the brilliant tracks from Milliontown, it is something of a letdown. So my thoughts are mixed, but let me say it again: When these guys are good, they are amazingly good.
Hyperventilate - 9.5/10
Black Light Machine - 9.25/10
Welcome to Nowhere - 7.5/10
Towerblock - 6.5/10
Roulette score: 8.2
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Buddyhunter1
Devin Townsend
First impression: Fantastic! It's not what I expected as far as what the songs ended up being, but this is some amazing stuff. I might become addicted to this.
Final review: I’m just gonna say it, this is the best artist of Round 1. There’s another one I’ll be talking about later that comes REALLY close, but if I had to pick the best, I think Devin Townsend would be an easy choice. The big thing I want to talk about is how different this ended up being from what I initially thought. See, I went in expecting something along the lines of Dream Theater or Haken. What I actually got was one song that I guess is uniquely Devin Townsend, and the other two songs are basically Between the Buried and Me meets KMFDM. And wow, I love this. When I said I might become addicted to this, I wasn’t just sneaking in a hint to it being Devin Townsend; I’ve probably listened to these songs the most out of all my Round 1 submissions. And the funny thing about this, is that I do find a glaring flaw with Devin Townsend; with the exception of “Kingdom”, the lyrics are not very good. I would say these are the worst lyrics out of all the Round 1 artists. But you know what? The music is so good, that I don’t even care. I mean, in the case of “Addicted!” it’s a pretty impressive feat to make a song I love that contains multiple uses of the word “pornography”. And then there’s “Planet of the Apes”, which has Tommy Rogers as a guest vocalist, so the song’s automatically a 9/10. I am very impressed with this music. You bet I’ll be seeking out more of this stuff!
Addicted! - 8.75/10
Planet of the Apes - 9/10
Kingdom - 9/10
Roulette score: 8.9
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Final review: I’m just gonna say it, this is the best artist of Round 1. There’s another one I’ll be talking about later that comes REALLY close, but if I had to pick the best, I think Devin Townsend would be an easy choice.
Well duh, it's Devin Townsend! *bows*
Enjoy the rabbit hole! The dude's got so many albums out there that it can be overwhelming, but the albums each of those songs came from would probably be a good starting point. Addicted and Epicloud are more on the accessible, straightforward side, whereas Deconstruction is completely bonkers theatrical prog metal from start to finish. I didn't send any songs from them but I'd also highly recommend Ocean Machine and Accelerated Evolution.
By the way, while I'm happy to have scored so high, I'm noticing a slightly disturbing trend - apart from Frost* (who I'm not familiar enough with), my favorite song from each of the submissions thus far ended up scoring either lowest or second-to-lowest among the batch. :lol (Marathon, Untouchable Pt. 1, Hadopelagic II, All A Man Can Do, and Addicted! respectively)
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The cool thing about getting into Devin is that he has soooooo much different music
Also from The Ocean go check out their song Stenian it's the best one
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The cool thing about getting into Devin is that he has soooooo much different music
Yup. He's got some more mellow albums like Ki, Casualties of Cool, and Ghost, all of which are definitely worth checking out (especially Ki and Casualties). And on the other end of the spectrum, if you want him at his heaviest, you can dive into Strapping Young Lad, which has some of his best albums. :metal
Also from The Ocean go check out their song Stenian the rest of Pelagial it's the best one of the best concept albums ever
FTFM
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Well, this ought to be interesting if everything is going to be compared against Dream Theater and the other 5 banned artists! :lol
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Nice. Of the 6 artists scored so far I'd rank them:
- Devin Townsend
- The Ocean
- Frost*
- Anathema
- Beyond the Bridge
- Rush
I'd be totally fine losing out to Devin as he's one of my favourite artists :metal just savour his catalogue, so much good stuff. I got sent Dear Dead Days by Frost* in my roulette (possibly by Nekov as well?) and it was easily one of the top 5 songs of the roulette, if not the top. I remember I scored it a 9.5!
Also, these are some consistently high scores, is it all down hill from here or are we looking at a sea of 8's?
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Also from The Ocean go check out their song Stenian it's the best one
Is it? ???
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yes
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Well, I disagree :)
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Final review: I’m just gonna say it, this is the best artist of Round 1. There’s another one I’ll be talking about later that comes REALLY close, but if I had to pick the best, I think Devin Townsend would be an easy choice.
Well duh, it's Devin Townsend! *bows*
Enjoy the rabbit hole! The dude's got so many albums out there that it can be overwhelming, but the albums each of those songs came from would probably be a good starting point. Addicted and Epicloud are more on the accessible, straightforward side, whereas Deconstruction is completely bonkers theatrical prog metal from start to finish. I didn't send any songs from them but I'd also highly recommend Ocean Machine and Accelerated Evolution.
Thanks for the recommendations! Doing a little research, I've heard Ocean Machine is considered his best album, so I'll probably check out that album first when I get around to his discography.
Also, these are some consistently high scores, is it all down hill from here or are we looking at a sea of 8's?
When it came to doing my final results, I chose the submissions at random. So, as far as individual songs go, we'll still see some high scores, though I won't deny there are some lower scores to be revealed (but not too low!). As far as roulette scores... Well, that applies here, too.
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ocean machine is excellent, terria is excellent, ziltoid is excellent, deconstruction is excellent, casualties of cool is imo the most excellent, just for starters
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I've never heard anything from Devin Townsend that I have liked.
He did release an album a couple years ago that I listened to. I forget the name, but it was kind of atmospheric, and that was ok.
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By the way, if anyone has Round 2 submissions ready, feel free to send them now!
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You already have mine.
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ocean machine is excellent, terria is excellent, ziltoid is excellent, deconstruction is excellent, casualties of cool is imo the most excellent, just for starters
These albums would be the perfect starter albums for Hevy Devy! All 5* albums or close to 5*.
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Good start depending on the rest of the results.
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Good start depending on the rest of the results.
I'm sure you'll win the Fogey challenge.
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sent in round 2!
I don't care if I get lower scores tbh. Someone has to get them and I'd rather it to be me than someone who might get offended :coolio
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sent in round 2!
I don't care if I get lower scores tbh. Someone has to get them and I'd rather it to be me than someone who might get offended J-Boy :coolio
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Good start depending on the rest of the results.
I'm sure you'll win the Fogey challenge.
Not going old school next round.
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Part 2 of the results coming soon...
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Literally about to make some actual popcorn.
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i'm making :soon: :corn
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i'm making :soon: :corn
I was about to ask what the Roadrunner Records thing even meant, but upon quoting you I've found out it means "soon".
I'm assuming this is just some DTF inside joke I don't get.
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i'm making :soon: :corn
I was about to ask what the Roadrunner Records thing even meant, but upon quoting you I've found out it means "soon".
I'm assuming this is just some DTF inside joke I don't get.
:metardica:
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It sure is. Lol
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Results 2/3!
HOF
Journey
First impression: It seems similar to most 80's pop/rock I've heard. It's good but nothing special.
Final review: To be honest, my thoughts haven’t really changed from my first impression, although I have grown to like one of the songs a little more. This is the kind of music my mom will sometimes listen to, although I’m not sure if she does listen to Journey specifically. When it comes to the “80’s pop/rock” aesthetic, she leans more towards the pop side, like the whole new wave stuff. And I bring that up because how I feel about that perfectly applies here. It’s good, there’s even some very good stuff once in a while, but it’s not quite the stuff I’d really return to. The highlights for me are “Mother, Father”, which has a really good chorus, and I also like “Trial by Fire”, which has this nice rainy atmosphere. While these aren’t songs I love, I do appreciate them and there are even a couple songs I can say I really liked.
Mother, Father - 8/10
One More - 7.75/10
Rubicon - 7/10
Trial by Fire - 8/10
Roulette score: 7.7
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Anguyen92
Alter Bridge
First impression: Nothing all that remarkable, but still pretty good, I'd say.
Final review: While Alter Bridge isn’t one of my favorites of this round, it has grown on me. I would still say that there’s nothing particularly remarkable about these songs, but despite that, there’s some pretty good material here. My favorite of the songs would be “Blackbird”, a song that’s mellow but energetic, and has some very heartfelt lyrics. I fortunately can’t say I relate to these lyrics, but I imagine this is a very emotional and powerful song to anyone who can relate to this. Aside from that, there’s some other great material, like “Forever Falling”, which has a really satisfying chorus. I think as a whole, this is an example of a band that’s quite good, but it’s outclassed by a lot of other stuff. But hey, I’d say they were certainly worth a shot!
Blackbird - 8.25/10
Cry of Achilles - 7.75/10
Forever Falling - 8/10
Walking the Sky - 7.75/10
Roulette score: 7.9
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TAC
UFO
First impression: I like the music, though I'm entirely sure how I feel about the vocals.
Final review: I was rather interested to listen to these guys, since I do know how much TAC loves this band. While I can’t say I love them, I think they’re pretty good if these songs are anything to go by. The music is often interesting and fun to listen to, and the vocals have grown on me a lot. One thing I’ve noticed is that they seem to be better with the slower songs, like “Love to Love”, which has some really nice instrumentals, especially in the intro. They do good when they’re more upbeat as well. “Black Cold Coffee” is an exciting song that’s just a lot of fun to listen to, and sometimes that’s all you need to make a good song. The other two songs help to showcase their upbeat and slower sides, though I found these to be a little less interesting, but still pretty good. As a whole, I’m not sure if I’ll check out the band any further, but I’ll probably return to my two favorites here from time to time.
Black Cold Coffee - 8/10
Love to Love - 8.25/10
One More for the Rodeo - 7.5/10
Profession of Violence - 7.75/10
Roulette score: 7.9
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Stadler
KISS
First impression: I expected this to be very mediocre, but these guys actually aren't all that bad!
Final review: I get the feeling at least a few people were anticipating my writeup on KISS. After all, it’s a very famous yet also rather infamous band as well. And going in, the more skeptical side of me was fully expecting it to be bland and mediocre, and just a product of its time. So what are my thoughts on it? Well, it’s nothing particularly interesting, but I honestly can’t say it’s bad. It’s decent enough. At the very least, I can see why KISS was so popular back then. If I may be cynical and pompous about my tastes for just a moment, I think there’s a few bands out there that did not exactly deserve their popularity… but all things considered, I don’t think KISS fits into that category. Although I am coming across as positive, I will most likely never listen to KISS again, just because anything I like about them is done way better by other classic rock bands.
Like I said, they’re just decent. Not bad at all, but not necessarily good; it’s passable. It was a worthwhile time giving this band a shot.
(Slightly unrelated to the results, but I should mention that I generally only accept four songs at most for a roulette. If they’re shorter songs that flow into each other really well, then that’s fine. I bring this up, as Stadler sent five songs. I’m alright with that, though, considering all the songs were really short (the longest one was barely longer than 4 minutes). But yeah, just as a heads-up, stick to four songs or less unless you have good reason to include more.)
Deuce - 6.75/10
Flaming Youth - 6.5/10
Plaster Caster - 6/10
Love ‘Em and Leave ‘Em - 6.25/10
She - 6.5/10
Roulette score: 6.4
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425
Nightwish
First impression: This is great! I wish I'd listened to this sooner.
Final review: I wonder if anyone guessed that me saying that I wish I’d listened sooner was a hint for said band being Nightwish… Anyway, this band was probably the biggest surprise for me in this whole round. I’m not sure what I was expecting in the first place, but what I heard basically blew those expectations away. I love symphonic elements in metal, and this is exactly the kind of stuff I love! This submission contains perhaps my favorite song in this whole round, “The Poet and the Pendulum”. (It’s either this or Hyperventilate, ’ll decide which is better at some point.) So much grandeur! It has a very cinematic feel to it, almost like I’m listening to a recording of a play. The other songs are really great, too. “Ghost Love Score” is really good, despite there being a minute or so of aimless ambience. There’s also a moment at about 5:40 that I know I’ve heard somewhere before… Also, I see a lot of people comparing the different singers that have been in the band, but honestly, if I never saw any comments about that, I don’t know if I ever would’ve noticed there were different singers. They just sound kind of similar to me. But that’s a good thing, because I love the singing, no matter who’s doing it! For the most part, I’m not used to female vocals, so this is also pretty refreshing for me. This is so good… Honestly, it’s hard to say what makes Devin Townsend better than Nightwish for me. I guess Devin Townsend just had a bigger impression on me? Either way, this is without a doubt one of the best bands in this round.
Stargazers - 8.5/10
Bless The Child - 8.75/10
The Poet and the Pendulum - 9.5/10
Ghost Love Score - 8.75/10
Roulette score: 8.9
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Twosuitsluke
Coheed and Cambria
First impression: Given time, I may be converted.
Final review: “425, send a sweet, sweet Coheed song that will convert young Revenge forever!” Well, it wasn’t 425 who sent it, but the end goal has more or less been accomplished anyway. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I did know a couple songs by Coheed and Cambria prior to this roulette. Similarly to my thoughts on Rush, after giving these songs some time, I think I’m really into them now. The highlight for me here is “Here We Are Juggernaut”. At first I was confused as to why the audio quality was so bad… then I realized that that’s how the song is actually supposed to sound, and I started to enjoy it a lot more after that. There’s a lot of emotion in the singing, especially right before the first chorus. “This is not your playground, it’s my heart!” Another song I really enjoyed was Old Flames. At first, it seemed kind of underwhelming, but now I really like it. The ending with the “na-na na na na”’s is SO GOOD. One thing I like about this band is that no matter what the lyrics are, the singing makes them feel so important and/or emotional. In “In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3”, there’s this line in the chorus that says, “Man your own jackhammer”. If this were most other bands, that line would sound really stupid, but here, it actually sounds kind of cool. This is a very good band, to be sure.
The Willing Well III: Apollo II: The Telling Truth - 8.25/10
Here We Are Juggernaut - 9.25/10
Old Flames - 9/10
In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3 - 8/10
Roulette score: 8.6
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By the way, while I'm happy to have scored so high, I'm noticing a slightly disturbing trend - apart from Frost* (who I'm not familiar enough with), my favorite song from each of the submissions thus far ended up scoring either lowest or second-to-lowest among the batch. :lol (Marathon, Untouchable Pt. 1, Hadopelagic II, All A Man Can Do, and Addicted! respectively)
Now that I've seen the second batch of scores, I'm going to second this.....hmm
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:omg: at Poet and the Pendulum > Ghost Love Score (unless the live version from Wembley was submitted)
Also, once you listen to more of Nightwish, you’ll realize the three vocalists are quite distinguishable from one another.
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:omg: at Poet and the Pendulum > Ghost Love Score (unless the live version from Wembley was submitted)
Yeah I was thinking the same thing.
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:omg: at Poet and the Pendulum > Ghost Love Score (unless the live version from Wembley was submitted)
It was a live version from 2012 in Buenos Aires. Floor Jansen was the singer in this one.
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Hah! Not surprised by the score. Even though UFO are my favorite band, I rarely, and I mean rarely send them in roulettes. I certainly would've never sent them here had it not been for J Boy's Fogey Challenge.
And Stadler... :facepalm:
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Hah! Not surprised by the score. Even though UFO are my favorite band, I rarely, and I mean rarely send them in roulettes. I certainly would've never sent them here had it not been for J Boy's Fogey Challenge.
And Stadler... :facepalm:
Oh, were you expecting me to give him a lower score?
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"aimless ambience" in Ghost Love Score? :facepalm:
That doesn't bode well for one of the songs I sent for Round 2 :P
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"aimless ambience" in Ghost Love Score? :facepalm:
That doesn't bode well for one of the songs I sent for Round 2 :P
Doesn't bode well for either song I sent for round 2.
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Hah! Not surprised by the score. Even though UFO are my favorite band, I rarely, and I mean rarely send them in roulettes. I certainly would've never sent them here had it not been for J Boy's Fogey Challenge.
And Stadler... :facepalm:
Oh, were you expecting me to give him a lower score?
No, it's typical Stadler. Even Kingshmegland and I were joking that Stadler would pick like the 5 worst songs of the band. :lol
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"aimless ambience" in Ghost Love Score? :facepalm:
That doesn't bode well for one of the songs I sent for Round 2 :P
Doesn't bode well for either song I sent for round 2.
Eh, don't worry about it. I'm sure a lot of people would say The Count of Tuscany and Illumination Theory contain "aimless ambience", and I would highly, highly disagree with that. I like ambience, I just happened to not care much for that specific section in Ghost Love Score.
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He didn't even send a song from the album "Revenge" to Revenge! Lol
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:lol
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Final review: While Alter Bridge isn’t one of my favorites of this round, it has grown on me. I would still say that there’s nothing particularly remarkable about these songs, but despite that, there’s some pretty good material here. My favorite of the songs would be “Blackbird”, a song that’s mellow but energetic, and has some very heartfelt lyrics. I fortunately can’t say I relate to these lyrics, but I imagine this is a very emotional and powerful song to anyone who can relate to this. Aside from that, there’s some other great material, like “Forever Falling”, which has a really satisfying chorus. I think as a whole, this is an example of a band that’s quite good, but it’s outclassed by a lot of other stuff. But hey, I’d say they were certainly worth a shot!
Correct. They got a few other songs as well that covers the topic of loved one passing as well (In Loving Memory and Godspeed) that many of the fans have related to. I should have thrown the title track of Fortress in it, but I didn't want to oversaturate the list with 3 long songs.
I'm probably going to have to rethink my plan for the next few rounds. I don't think the bands I thought to provide will give you as much enjoyment as Nightwish and Coheed & Cambria (then again, those are bands that are pretty hard to not enjoy).
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No they're not. ;D
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HOF
Journey
First impression: It seems similar to most 80's pop/rock I've heard. It's good but nothing special.
Final review: To be honest, my thoughts haven’t really changed from my first impression, although I have grown to like one of the songs a little more. This is the kind of music my mom will sometimes listen to, although I’m not sure if she does listen to Journey specifically. When it comes to the “80’s pop/rock” aesthetic, she leans more towards the pop side, like the whole new wave stuff. And I bring that up because how I feel about that perfectly applies here. It’s good, there’s even some very good stuff once in a while, but it’s not quite the stuff I’d really return to. The highlights for me are “Mother, Father”, which has a really good chorus, and I also like “Trial by Fire”, which has this nice rainy atmosphere. While these aren’t songs I love, I do appreciate them and there are even a couple songs I can say I really liked.
Mother, Father - 8/10
One More - 7.75/10
Rubicon - 7/10
Trial by Fire - 8/10
Roulette score: 7.7
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Hey, 7.7 is better than I usually pull in an opening round! My goal was to send you stuff that wasn’t like the side of Journey you might hear on the radio. I’m not sure where you’re hearing new wave or pop, but I suppose the general tone/production style might be there. I think there are a lot of parallels between Journey and DT actually. JLB is a big fan (I think he rates Mother, Father specifically as one of his favorite songs), and there’s a lot of Neal Schon in JP’s soloing. I also sent One More since it features a lot of double bass playing that’s somewhat reminiscent of Portnoy’s playing. I’m glad you liked Mother, Father and Trial By Fire at least.
Will be sending you round 2 soon!
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Hey, 7.7 is better than I usually pull in an opening round!
That's because you usually send Winger! :lol
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Hey, 7.7 is better than I usually pull in an opening round!
That's because you usually send Winger! :lol
There’s still time for that!
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Wow, really glad you liked Nightwish so much! I like your description of The Poet and the Pendulum, that definitely captures some of what I like so much about it. As for the quiet section of Ghost Love Score, maybe try listening to a different version of it and see if you can get into it a bit more? The one drawback of the version I sent you, which I do think is the best overall, is that the symphonic parts are a little lower in the mix, so between that and the crowd noise, I can see how some of the detail of that section might have been lost. But yeah, overall, really, really happy with my score, and more importantly really happy that Nightwish made such a positive impression on you! Let me know any time if you want more thoughts about albums to start with, etc.!
As for the singers, I can understand not distinguishing them too clearly if you're not used to listening to female-fronted metal—I can't be too confrontational about you getting confused, as the guy who repeatedly fails to identify whether a singer is male or female! I'd say it's a good sign that you seem to like all of them and won't get frustrated with the switches from one to another. I do imagine that if you listen to them more you'll start to tell the three apart, though, as jingle.boy said.
Also glad that you liked Coheed, even though I didn't send them. It's fair that Luke got to send them, though, since I think he's probably the biggest C&C fan on DTF. Those are some good choices, too. The one song I'd recommend from them that he didn't send is Gravity's Union.
:omg: at Poet and the Pendulum > Ghost Love Score (unless the live version from Wembley was submitted)
Also, once you listen to more of Nightwish, you’ll realize the three vocalists are quite distinguishable from one another.
I sent the studio version of Poet and the Buenos Aires live version of GLS (the original Ghost Love Floor video). Not sure which song you were referring to the Wembley version of, but here's why I chose those particular versions:
For Poet, I wanted to include all three vocalists somewhere in my four submissions, and since I knew for sure I'd be sending GLF and I was pretty well settled on doing one song from Century Child and one song from Oceanborn/Wishmaster, TPatP was the best place to get Anette in. And while I like Floor's performance on that song as well, Anette's version is the one I fell in love with.
For GLS, it might be nostalgia, but I still think the first release of Floor's performance of that song is the best one. She hits the finale so cleanly, and there's this sense of excitement in the band and the audience since it's still a pretty new phenomenon.
As for the question of which song is better: I also would put Ghost Love Score ahead of Poet, but these are my #1 and #2 Nightwish songs, so I can't really argue too strongly with either order.
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:omg: at Poet and the Pendulum > Ghost Love Score (unless the live version from Wembley was submitted)
It was a live version from 2012 in Buenos Aires. Floor Jansen was the singer in this one.
I sent the studio version of Poet and the Buenos Aires live version of GLS (the original Ghost Love Floor video).
Yeah, so that's even double :omg: :omg: Ghost Love Floor is god-tier. Like, the best thing that's ever come out of Nightwish. @ 425... I was referring to the last DVD release, where Floor did P&P. If it was *that* against studio GLS, that's the only thing that (imo) would put them close to on par. I find it bizarre you reference aimless ambience in GLS... what the heck is the last 4 minutes of P&P!?!?! :lol I mean, I literally cut the song off at the 10 minute mark in my library.
As for the singers, I can understand not distinguishing them too clearly if you're not used to listening to female-fronted metal—
Fair point.
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Only three more bands left to score! Depending on when that's finished, I may post results before I go to sleep, though if I end up feeling too tired, I'll have to save Part 3 for when I wake up.
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This is why I'll always try and send three songs on the short-ish side rather than four songs, two of which are epics :corn no shade, this IS DTF, but a lot of people sent epic length rounds.
For GLS, it might be nostalgia, but I still think the first release of Floor's performance of that song is the best one. She hits the finale so cleanly, and there's this sense of excitement in the band and the audience since it's still a pretty new phenomenon.
I'm with you. Seeing how we never thought we'd never hear Ghost Love Score performed competently again, that whole roll of excitement after Floor joined the band on tour and mentioned the song as one of her faves and talked the band into doing it was one of the best sequences of my life with music overall. Didn't even need any of the performances recorded after that, though it's always fun to have several.
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This is why I'll always try and send three songs on the short-ish side rather than four songs, two of which are epics :corn no shade, this IS DTF, but a lot of people sent epic length rounds.
Honestly, I think the main reason it's taken me this long is just because of how many people joined my roulette. I seriously didn't expect 19 people to join this thing. If anything, I've learned that, should I ever run a roulette again in the future, it is probably for the best that I limit my participants. I don't mind having so many participants now, though! For this roulette, the more exposure I get to new music, the better.
Though it's funny you mention song lengths being the reason, because someone sent me two songs for Round 2 that are... long, to say the least.
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someone sent me two songs for Round 2 that are... long, to say the least.
okay fess up everyone, who sent him Light Of Day, Day Of Darkness :rollin
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So glad you liked Coheed! They are just a band that keep on giving! I tried to send 4 songs that covered a broad spectrum of what they have to offer. I'm a huge fan of Here We Are Juggernaut, obviously, but the album is often considered to be their weakest (due to the production and shift in style). Although it's not their best, it features some gems.
Old Flames was a grower for me too but I love it dearly now. It's great for the singalong!
Now picture this, you're at a show, with a 2,000 strong crowd, and Coheed play In Keeping Secrets! Trust me when I say that Coheed fans, on the whole, are rabid and fully into their live show. Imagine 80% (if not more) of this crowd singing every word, to every song and then we get to the "Man your own Jackhammer!" line! It's such an experience.
I notice you didn't mention The Willing Well III. In hindsight this song may not be the best to send to introduce someone to the band. It's self indulgent on my part as I love it. You may appreciate it more in the context of the album (which is album I suggest you start with) and also once you understand the concept of the record. By the way do you know anything about the concept to their albums?
Lastly, @425, I was so close to sending Gravity's Union. Revenge, you clearly like lyrics and emotion in them, so get back to us after you've listened to the "CAAAAAAAGGGGGGEDDDD, LOCKED IN PERPETUAL MOTION" part :rollin
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all of my submissions are under 30 minutes in total, is all i'll say :lol
which is,
a lot
but not quite excessive :hat
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I notice you didn't mention The Willing Well III. In hindsight this song may not be the best to send to introduce someone to the band. It's self indulgent on my part as I love it. You may appreciate it more in the context of the album (which is album I suggest you start with) and also once you understand the concept of the record. By the way do you know anything about the concept to their albums?
I thought The Willing Well III was very good, and personally, I think it'd be a great way to introduce someone to Coheed and Cambria. I just tend to discuss the songs I have a lot to say about, and in TWWIII:AII:TTT's case, there wasn't much I had to say about it.
Regarding the concept, I know most of their albums are concept albums that relate to this book series called Amory Wars. That being said, I don't know much about the actual story for any of the albums.
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Sent, but almost entirely sure I'll be cockblocked. Or be the cockblocker?
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I find it bizarre you reference aimless ambience in GLS... what the heck is the last 4 minutes of P&P!?!?! :lol I mean, I literally cut the song off at the 10 minute mark in my library.
Wow. I think the last 4 minutes where Anette sings "Be still, my son, you're home" is the best thing on the album.
Revenge, good to see you liked Beyond the Bridge! You should definitely listen to the whole album when you have time, there's so many callbacks to other songs. I included the opener and the closer because of how they shared a few musical themes, and there are many more moments on the album like that.
Herbie (the singer) is a little aggressive, yeah, but I like his performance here so much that it doesn't bother me at all.
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Revenge, good to see you liked Beyond the Bridge! You should definitely listen to the whole album when you have time, there's so many callbacks to other songs. I included the opener and the closer because of how they shared a few musical themes, and there are many more moments on the album like that.
Herbie (the singer) is a little aggressive, yeah, but I like his performance here so much that it doesn't bother me at all.
I definitely want to check out that album at some point. I can imagine the songs are even better in context of the full album!
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I have finally finished scoring every submission! Results 3/3 will be here soon, I just gotta make the reviews now.
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Sent for Round 2!
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Yeah, I thought Towerblock might not score as well but I wanted to send at least 1 song from each of their albums. Milliontown is still my favorite and I encourage you to check it out, especially the title song which is one of my favorite prog epics. It is a shame that the vocals don't do it for you but well, I know how that is.
I'll send for round two shortly.
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Doing these final writeups took way longer than it should have... But now that I'm finished, I present the final third of the results.
Lethean
Katatonia
First impression: Not bad, but so far there's not much I really find interesting.
Final review: I’ll admit that of all the artists in this round, Katatonia is probably near the bottom of my rankings. That being said, they have grown on me since my initial impression. I think the main thing I like about this band is the aesthetic it goes for. It’s a very dark and moody kind of metal, yet it also feels mature, if that makes sense. The only real issue here, then, is that most of it isn’t particularly memorable. While that’s not an inherently bad thing, I just found it hard for anything to really stick with me. The one memorable song, and also my favorite, is “Evidence”. It’s a pretty enjoyable song, with the highlight being the last minute and a half, with the “I’m the evidence…” verse being continually repeated until the end of the song. I do wish the fadeout started closer to the end, though. I liked the songs I was sent, there just wasn’t much outside of Evidence that really stuck with me.
Forsaker - 7.75/10
Lacquer - 7.25/10
Evidence - 8/10
Lethean (the song, not the DTF user) - 7.75/10
Roulette score: 7.7
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jingle.boy
Led Zeppelin
First impression: Overall, I'm not quite sure what to think of this one yet.
Final review: This writeup might be a bit lacking, and if it feels that way, that would be because I’ve listened to these songs the least out of all my Round 1 submissions. That’s not because I disliked any of the songs, I just happened to not listen to this submission much. But despite that, I can say that Led Zeppelin is quite alright! My favorite of the songs is “Black Dog”, which has this really cool dynamic where it switches between vocals only to instrumentals only at a somewhat rapid pace. I was unsure what to think of the singing at first, but while it’s nothing I love, I do like the singing and at the very least, I think it fits the music well. I also want to give special attention to “In My Time of Dying”. While I think Black Dog is a better song, IMToD automatically gets a better score because it has probably the funniest ending I’ve heard in any song ever. I’m not gonna spoil it for anyone who hasn’t heard the song, but wow, that completely caught me off-guard the first time I heard it and had me burst out laughing! The other two songs are good, but not quite anything all that special. But Led Zeppelin is a pretty good one, regardless of what my dad may tell me.
Black Dog - 8/10
Gallows Pole - 7.5/10
That’s The Way - 7.75/10
In My Time of Dying - 8.25/10
Roulette score: 7.9
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Puppies_On_Acid
Marillion
First impression: I feel like it's supposed to be more of an emotional kind of music, but I don't really feel that yet; that being said, it's pretty good.
Final review: This is another result where my thoughts aren’t much different from my first impressions. I can feel a little more emotion in some of the songs now, but I can’t help but feel like this band is trying to elicit a very strong emotional response that I simply don’t get from their music. But with that said, there’s some worthwhile stuff here. The highlight for me is “Jigsaw”, which has a really nice atmosphere, and the chorus is quite impactful. To be honest, I don’t have much else to say regarding the other songs; I think saying “It has a nice atmosphere, but I don’t feel as much emotion as they’re trying to convey” accurately describes the other songs for me. The only other thing I have to say is that I find the outro to “Neverland” to be too long. It sounds nice, but nothing would’ve been lost had this ambience been cut in half. (Wow, I think I’ve been making it sound like I usually have issues with ambient parts of songs…) I feel like this writeup might feel negative, but I do think this band is good, though.
Jigsaw - 8.25/10
Sugarmice - 7.5/10
The Space - 7.75/10
Neverland - 7.75/10
Roulette score: 7.8
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romdrums
Genesis
First impression: Reminds me of Rush in a lot of ways. They also seem a lot more technical than I thought!
Final review: Here’s an interesting submission: Two songs live, and one of them is a big 19-minute medley. I’m not familiar with where each section in the “In The Cage” medley begins, so all I’ll say is that it’s consistently great from start to end! There’s lots of instrumental sections, and I think these guys are very talented. I feel like there’s quite a few technical parts here, as well. I don’t mean on the level of, say, your average Liquid Tension Experiment song, but I think it’s comparable to the songs on When Dream and Day Unite in terms of technical proficiency. Talent aside, the music sounds really good, and the aforementioned instrumental sections are the highlight. The vocals also sound good. They’re kind of normal, but also kind of unique in their own way. “Los Endos” is great as well, but the In The Cage/Afterglow medley is the better of the two songs, for sure.
In The Cage medley/Afterglow - 8.75/10
Los Endos - 8/10
Roulette score: 8.4
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MoraWintersoul
Chroma Key
First impression: This is more or less the music I expected to hear from Kevin Moore.
Final review: This is something I’m surprised I didn’t listen to sooner, since this is a Kevin Moore project, and after listening to these songs, I wish I’d listened to Chroma Key sooner! I love this kind of atmospheric music, and I knew Kevin Moore would be the kind of guy to make this music. “On the Page” is a rather melancholic song, almost like a slightly-more upbeat Space-Dye Vest. And that extends to the lyrics. I wonder if Kevin Moore intentionally wrote these lyrics in the same style as that song, but either way, it’s done well. Although I think the sampling could’ve been better… “Another Permanent Address” is a very atmospheric piece, and it sounds lovely. It almost makes me feel nostalgic, listening to it. The lyrics are kind of depressing, but Kevin Moore’s voice here is simply amazing. “Strong” is good musically, but the vocals sound really weird, and I don’t really like them. Still a good song, but not as good as the other two songs. If his time in Dream Theater isn’t any indication, these songs prove that Kevin Moore is a really great musician.
On the Page - 8.5/10
Another Permanent Address - 9/10
Strong - 7.5/10
Roulette score: 8.3
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Luoto
Amorphis
First impression: Honestly, I wasn't expecting much of anything, but this is actually some pretty good music!
Final review: This is an example of why the saying “Don’t judge a book by its cover” exists. Looking at the name, I went into this expecting bland and generic death metal in the style of Lamb of God or something. What I got was metal, but my predictions were quite inaccurate otherwise! I think these guys sound really good, and they’re quite creative at times, too. I’m not sure what my favorite song is, but it’s either “Skyforger”, which is a somewhat adventurous-sounding song with a really satisfying chorus, or it’s “Death of a King” which has an Egyptian-like aesthetic to it, and it doesn’t feel like a gimmick at all. The other two songs are good as well. “Daughter of Hate” is a bit more straightforward, but it still sounds great even if it’s a little less creative compared to the other two songs I mentioned. I actually might end up looking through more of Amorphis’ discography at some point; I am very impressed!
Skyforger - 8.5/10
Under a Soil and Black Stone - 7.75/10
Death of a King - 8.5/10
Daughter of Hate - 8.25/10
Roulette score: 8.3
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Cyril
The Hirsch Effekt
First impression: Honestly, I like what I'm hearing so far!
Final review: From the moment I saw Cyril ask to be signed up, I was immediately very interested in what submissions I would receive from him. And while I have no idea what I’m in for with the next four rounds, I can at least say this submission is a very good start! The Hirsch Effekt is unique among the other submissions this round, in that the songs are sung in German rather than English. The main highlight in each song is the singing. There’s a lot of instances where the vocals just sound so good. The music is really great, too. It’s usually upbeat, but there are times where it’s more subdued. My favorite of the three songs is “Agitation”, which is sort of a fusion of the other two songs, but those two other songs, “Natans” and “Cotard” are great in their own ways. Natans is quite melodic, whereas Cotard is loud and mostly aggressive. I wasn’t entirely sure what I would think of this before listening to it, but I’m very glad I did listen to them; The Hirsch Effekt is simply great.
Agitation - 9/10
Natans - 8.75/10
Cotard - 8.5/10
Roulette score: 8.8
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I apologize if these writeups feel repetitive. I got burned out on doing these (even though I enjoy writing), so me pushing through it all might not have had a good effect on the quality of the writeups. Well, there we are, all Round 1 results... I'm going to sleep, you guys have fun discussing the results and whatnot, and make sure to send for Round 2 if you haven't already.
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Standings?
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I won't say I'm surprised... it's a rarity that younglings these days can appreciate music from the 60s/70s/80s the way that us Gen-X/Yrs did when we first discovered it. That's not a shot at all, just an observation. Of the pre-2000s bands, only Rush and Genesis averaged higher than 8; while Katatonia and Alter Bridge were the only two post-2000 era bands that averaged lower than 8. It's clear you have a preference for more modern music. Again, not said in a negative way, just an observation of the facts.
Well, I've got one more 'classic' band that has to be played, then I'll move on to the more modern stuff.
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God I wish I could go back to the moment when I first heard Skyforger.
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I won't say I'm surprised... it's a rarity that younglings these days can appreciate music from the 60s/70s/80s the way that us Gen-X/Yrs did when we first discovered it. That's not a shot at all, just an observation. Of the pre-2000s bands, only Rush and Genesis averaged higher than 8; while Katatonia and Alter Bridge were the only two post-2000 era bands that averaged lower than 8. It's clear you have a preference for more modern music. Again, not said in a negative way, just an observation of the facts.
Well, I've got one more 'classic' band that has to be played, then I'll move on to the more modern stuff.
I took care about one of the modern bands this round.
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Glad you liked Amorphis! Their discography is quite varied as they started as a death metal band in the early 90's, then gradually evolved out of it into progressive hard rock and then back to metal. The style from Eclipse onward is definitely the most accessible.
Also a little interesting you consider Daughter of Hate to be more straightforward than your favorites considering the Finnish spoken word section, but it's whatever :biggrin:
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Hah! Not surprised by the score. Even though UFO are my favorite band, I rarely, and I mean rarely send them in roulettes. I certainly would've never sent them here had it not been for J Boy's Fogey Challenge.
And Stadler... :facepalm:
Oh, were you expecting me to give him a lower score?
No, it's typical Stadler. Even Kingshmegland and I were joking that Stadler would pick like the 5 worst songs of the band. :lol
Wait, what? I stepped it up (other than Plaster Caster)!
It's not just Kiss, though; I said that I could give ten songs "10's" and I'm not more than one scored over an 8.
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He didn't even send a song from the album "Revenge" to Revenge! Lol
I offer this for your collective amusement, but "Paralyzed" was the last song cut from the list. :) :)
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Romdrums: what version of the In The Cage Medley did you send?
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Sorry to see Katatonia not doing so well, but I'm glad you liked Evidence at least. Katatonia was a bit of a grower for me, so I'll hold out hope that they'll eventually grow on you as well. :)
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possibly the only good score i will get this roulette :metal
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I find it bizarre you reference aimless ambience in GLS... what the heck is the last 4 minutes of P&P!?!?! :lol I mean, I literally cut the song off at the 10 minute mark in my library.
Wow. I think the last 4 minutes where Anette sings "Be still, my son, you're home" is the best thing on the album.
I also really like this part, and I think it's a necessary resolution to the concept, given the darkness of the earlier sections.
Also, I sent for round 2, so I'm not going to be Elite, and I also declare myself not guilty on sending the massive epics—all my songs together are under 25 minutes.
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Yeah I think mine are around 25 minutes too, maybe a bit longer than that. I did send one 11-minute long song though.
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Nice. I sent one ~9-minute song, then the others are in the 4-6 minute range.
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He didn't even send a song from the album "Revenge" to Revenge! Lol
I offer this for your collective amusement, but "Paralyzed" was the last song cut from the list. :) :)
Of course. The worst song from Revenge! :lol
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Re: Marillion, I kind of want to encourage you to check out some more of their stuff. Everyone is different, but aside from Sugar Mice I wouldn’t rate the 4 you heard among my favorite Marillion songs. Though I will say you are generally right that Marillion are an emotional band (both eras). They also like to have extended ambient passages, so that’s something to consider.
The three albums I’d want you to really dig into to get a sense of what they can do are Clutching at Straws, Brave, and Afraid of Sunlight.
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That's a great score, kinda expected a bit more on Untouchable but at least I'm glad you loved their self-titled song so much!
I'll take advantage of the small banned list yet again :corn
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Re: Marillion, I kind of want to encourage you to check out some more of their stuff. Everyone is different, but aside from Sugar Mice I wouldn’t rate the 4 you heard among my favorite Marillion songs. Though I will say you are generally right that Marillion are an emotional band (both eras). They also like to have extended ambient passages, so that’s something to consider.
The three albums I’d want you to really dig into to get a sense of what they can do are Clutching at Straws, Brave, and Afraid of Sunlight.
Revenge, I'll PAY you to listen to Clutching At Straws. If you don't like that, then so be it, you're probably not going to be a Marillion fan, but it's about as indicative of their catalogue as any album is.
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Re: Marillion, I kind of want to encourage you to check out some more of their stuff. Everyone is different, but aside from Sugar Mice I wouldn’t rate the 4 you heard among my favorite Marillion songs. Though I will say you are generally right that Marillion are an emotional band (both eras). They also like to have extended ambient passages, so that’s something to consider.
The three albums I’d want you to really dig into to get a sense of what they can do are Clutching at Straws, Brave, and Afraid of Sunlight.
Revenge, I'll PAY you to listen to Clutching At Straws. If you don't like that, then so be it, you're probably not going to be a Marillion fan, but it's about as indicative of their catalogue as any album is.
You owe me a lot of money then Stads. :biggrin: :biggrin:
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Re: Marillion, I kind of want to encourage you to check out some more of their stuff. Everyone is different, but aside from Sugar Mice I wouldn’t rate the 4 you heard among my favorite Marillion songs. Though I will say you are generally right that Marillion are an emotional band (both eras). They also like to have extended ambient passages, so that’s something to consider.
The three albums I’d want you to really dig into to get a sense of what they can do are Clutching at Straws, Brave, and Afraid of Sunlight.
Revenge, I'll PAY you to listen to Clutching At Straws. If you don't like that, then so be it, you're probably not going to be a Marillion fan, but it's about as indicative of their catalogue as any album is.
You owe me a lot of money then Stads. :biggrin: :biggrin:
Ha! Payable in beer?
(I walked away from beer for a while and kept to vodka, but lately I've been enjoying Blue Moon Belgian Wheat a lot.)
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Apologies for not posting the standings! I was exhausted after the writeups last night and just forgot to do that.
STANDINGS
Buddyhunter1: 8.9
425: 8.9
Cyril: 8.8
twosuitsluke: 8.6
Evermind: 8.6
romdrums: 8.4
MoraWintersoul: 8.3
Luoto: 8.3
Nekov: 8.2
kingshmegland: 8.2
Sacul: 8.2
Elite: 8.1
Anguyen92: 7.9
jingle.boy: 7.9
TAC: 7.8
Puppies_On_Acid: 7.8
Lethean: 7.7
HOF: 7.6
Stadler: 6.4
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the gap between first and second-to-last is almost as big as the gap between second-to-last and last, poor stads :lol
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And here I thought the 8.1 would be a good score when the first batch of results got posted :)
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I won't say I'm surprised... it's a rarity that younglings these days can appreciate music from the 60s/70s/80s the way that us Gen-X/Yrs did when we first discovered it. That's not a shot at all, just an observation. Of the pre-2000s bands, only Rush and Genesis averaged higher than 8; while Katatonia and Alter Bridge were the only two post-2000 era bands that averaged lower than 8. It's clear you have a preference for more modern music. Again, not said in a negative way, just an observation of the facts.
Well, I've got one more 'classic' band that has to be played, then I'll move on to the more modern stuff.
Yeah, you've got a point. Growing up, my parents listened to a lot of modern music, and not much 'classic' music, so perhaps I've always been conditioned to enjoy the more modern style of rock/metal? But hey, if this round is anything to go by, I find older music to be very enjoyable as well!
Also a little interesting you consider Daughter of Hate to be more straightforward than your favorites considering the Finnish spoken word section, but it's whatever :biggrin:
Well, I meant besides that spoken word section. I probably should've brought that up, in hindsight.
Sorry to see Katatonia not doing so well, but I'm glad you liked Evidence at least. Katatonia was a bit of a grower for me, so I'll hold out hope that they'll eventually grow on you as well. :)
Though it was the third-lowest roulette score of this round, I did like Katatonia. It's just a combination of the music being not so memorable for most songs, as well as so many people here sending really, really good stuff that would naturally make Katatonia look outclassed.
possibly the only good score i will get this roulette :metal
Well, you never know what could happen!
That's a great score, kinda expected a bit more on Untouchable but at least I'm glad you loved their self-titled song so much!
I'll take advantage of the small banned list yet again :corn
Seeing as there's two parts to Untouchable, perhaps I'll enjoy it a lot more as a whole?
Revenge, I'll PAY you to listen to Clutching At Straws. If you don't like that, then so be it, you're probably not going to be a Marillion fan, but it's about as indicative of their catalogue as any album is.
Well, if that's how much you want me to listen to it, I'll make sure give that album a shot in the future. Or at least I'll try to, because I think I'm gonna have a big backlog of music to explore deeper when this roulette is all over.
And here I thought the 8.1 would be a good score when the first batch of results got posted :)
I'd say that's a really good score! It may look small compared to the maximum possible score of 10, but I think 8.1 is a strong start.
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I've burned the best band I got in the list of bands I have in mind, early, and I don't think you and I will probably see eye-to-eye with the next list of bands I will send throughout this roulette. But I'll try to throwing lists and see what sticks.
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Re: Marillion, I kind of want to encourage you to check out some more of their stuff. Everyone is different, but aside from Sugar Mice I wouldn’t rate the 4 you heard among my favorite Marillion songs. Though I will say you are generally right that Marillion are an emotional band (both eras). They also like to have extended ambient passages, so that’s something to consider.
The three albums I’d want you to really dig into to get a sense of what they can do are Clutching at Straws, Brave, and Afraid of Sunlight.
I had considered sending a song from both Brave and Afraid of Sunlight, but I felt those are albums that really need to be heard front to back.
I still think Neverland is an almost perfect song, long ambient outro and all.
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Re: Marillion, I kind of want to encourage you to check out some more of their stuff. Everyone is different, but aside from Sugar Mice I wouldn’t rate the 4 you heard among my favorite Marillion songs. Though I will say you are generally right that Marillion are an emotional band (both eras). They also like to have extended ambient passages, so that’s something to consider.
The three albums I’d want you to really dig into to get a sense of what they can do are Clutching at Straws, Brave, and Afraid of Sunlight.
I had considered sending a song from both Brave and Afraid of Sunlight, but I felt those are albums that really need to be heard front to back.
I still think Neverland is an almost perfect song, long ambient outro and all.
I think Neverland is a great track and a perfect ending to Marbles. I can see someone finding it over long though, and honestly I think I’ve just sort of worn it out over the years. I still like it but it’s just lost some luster for me.
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I'll begin listening to my Round 2 submissions shortly. Just as a reminder, I still need submissions from:
- Sacul
- Elite
- romdrums
- kingshmegland
- Luoto
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Just as a reminder, I still need submissions from:
- Sacul
- Elite
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Sent :)
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Sent!
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Just as a reminder, I still need submissions from:
- Sacul
- Elite
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/dde9c718d33925388af3450f004d175d/tenor.gif?itemid=16327852)
:rollin
Yeah, this won't be the last time this sentence is typed by Revenge.
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Just a heads up Revenge, as someone who writes a lot about music, if you try to describe each piece, you'll just wear yourself out :) just focus on what you like and don't like, and writeups will just appear on their own.
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Romdrums: what version of the In The Cage Medley did you send?
The one from the Mama tour. That one is my favorite because it has the heavy section of In That Quiet Earth between The Cinema Show and The Colony of Slippermen.
Hey Revenge, I'll have my submission for you tonight.
EDIT: Sent.
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Sent!
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First impressions will probably be late today, but I will ensure that they are out by 11:59 PM EST today.
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Welp, at this rate, I won't make it by 11:59 PM.
This is what happens when I have way too much stuff I want to do... That being said, I am currently getting through the rest of the submissions left and plan to post first impressions as soon as I'm done listening.
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Welp, at this rate, I won't make it by 11:59 PM.
This is what happens when I have way too much stuff I want to do... That being said, I am currently getting through the rest of the submissions left and plan to post first impressions as soon as I'm done listening.
You have almost 2 hours to go by my clock. :biggrin: :corn
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Welp, at this rate, I won't make it by 11:59 PM.
This is what happens when I have way too much stuff I want to do... That being said, I am currently getting through the rest of the submissions left and plan to post first impressions as soon as I'm done listening.
You have almost 2 hours to go by my clock. :biggrin: :corn
Speaking from the country's ass.. ;D
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Welp, at this rate, I won't make it by 11:59 PM.
This is what happens when I have way too much stuff I want to do... That being said, I am currently getting through the rest of the submissions left and plan to post first impressions as soon as I'm done listening.
You have almost 2 hours to go by my clock. :biggrin: :corn
Speaking from the country's ass.. ;D
I don't know, Lake Tahoe is pretty nice. :)
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I'm sorry about getting this out so late. There's so much music here to listen to, and then there's other things I wanna do on top of that... I'll get Hangmanen up at some point today, making that list should be less time-consuming. Well, anyway, here's my first impressions. Like before, some vague stuff, some hints.
1. Good stuff overall. I think James LaBrie's singing might've been influenced by this...
2. Some rather good, somewhat grandiose music.
3. Very enjoyable stuff overall!
4. Okay music so far, but this could grow on me.
5. Can't say it didn't bore me occasionally, but there is some good stuff here.
6. A lot of the harsh vocals feel unnecessary, but disregarding that, there's some interesting stuff here.
7. Liking this one, even if there's occasionally some questionable decisions made with these songs.
8. One of the more impressive bands I've heard this round.
9. I'm sorry, but if I gave my first impressions, I'd give away which submission I'm talking about.
10. Don't know what to think of this one beyond "it sounds nice".
11. I think I'm finally starting to "get" this band.
12. A lot more "casual" than what I'm used to, but it's alright.
13. I quite like this, though compared to a certain other band, [REDACTED] does it better.
14. A much better experience than the last time I tried to listen to these guys.
15. If anyone ever tells me that The Ministry of Lost Souls "should've been a 4-minute song", I will write a 100-word essay on why you are wrong.
16. Kinda reminds me of Nightwish in some ways.
17. They're a little better than I remember.
18. Pretty interesting stuff overall.
19. Impressive as always.
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I hope mine is 2, 3 or 8.
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mine is one of the ones in the range 1 to 19
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2?
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6 is probably mine
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Depending on what other people have sent you, I could be 16.
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I'm pretty sure I can scratch out 1, 6, 15, 16
Mine is probably 17
Everyone wants to b 8; no one wants to be 5
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11 - someone sent Leprous :coolio
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9?
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Mine could be 7 solely based on one bit around two thirds into the first song I sent. :lol
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19, ka is a wheel
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Another Hangman! Honestly, I'm getting sleepy (my sleep cycle is very odd at the moment, I forget if I mentioned that already), so feel free to guess whatever letters and words you want, and I will update the hangman all at once when I return.
??: ________ - _______ _______ _______
??: ________ - _________ __ ________
??: ____ ______ - ___ ___________
??: ____ ______ - ____ __ ______
??: ____ ______ - __________
??: ____ __ ___ ____ - ____/______ _______/__ ________ _______ ___
??: ____ __ ___ ____ - _____ _____
??: ____ __ ___ ____ - ___ _________/_______ ___ __ _________/_________ ______ __ _ _______ _____
??: _____ _____ _____ - _____ __ ___?
??: _____ _____ _____ - ___________
??: _____ _____ _____ - ______
??: __________ - _____
??: __________ - _________
??: ______ _______ - _____ _____, _____ ______
??: ______ _______ - ___, ________, ___________
??: ______ _______ - ____ __
??: __________ - _____ __ ____
??: __________ - ______ ______
??: __________ - ______ ___ ________ ____
??: __________ - ____ ______
??: _______ - _____ __ ________
??: _______ - _________
??: _______ - _______ ____
??: _______ - ______ ____
??: ___ ______ - ____ __ ____
??: ___ ______ - _________
??: ___ ______ - ______ ____
??: ___ ______ - ____________
??: ___ ____ ______ - ___ _____
??: ___ ____ ______ - _ _____ __ ___ ____
??: ___ ____ ______ - ____
??: ___ ____ ______ - ___ _____
??: _________ - _______ ____
??: _________ - ___ _________
??: _________ - _______
??: _________ - ___ _____ ___'_ ____
??: ______ - ___ _______ __ _'___
??: ______ - ______'_ _____
??: ______ - _______ __ _______
??: ______ - _____
??: _______ - ______ _____
??: _______ - ___ _____
??: _______ - _____
??: ____ _____ - ______
??: ____ _____ - _______ __ ___ _______
??: ____ _____ - ____
??: ____ _____ - ___________ ____
??: ______ ______ - _______ ______
??: ______ ______ - ______ __ ____ _ ____
??: ______ ______ - _______
??: ______ ______ - ______
??: __ ____________ - ______ __, ________ (____ _): __________
??: __ ____________ - ___ ______ _______ ___ ____________
??: ________ - ___ ______ __ ____
??: ________ - ______
??: ________ - ___ _____ __ ________
??: ________ - ___ _______ __ ___________
??: __ - ______ _____
??: __ - ___ ____ __ _____
??: __ - ____ ____
??: __ - ___ ________ __ ___ ____
??: ____ - ____ __ _______ ___
??: ____ - __________
??: ____ - _______
??: ____ - ____________ _____ ____
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Ne Obliviscaris (Devour Me, Colossus (Part I): Blackholes, And Plague Flowers the Kaleidoscope) and IQ? My guess is Luoto sent Ne Obliviscaris.
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Give Parama the D
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The Road Of Bones
give me a N
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I’ll have an A.
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Also kid, no need to kill yourself trying to keep up with the pace you thought you'd be able to. I'm sure most of us would rather you spend enough time with the tunes to be sure of your opinions and thoughts about them, vs adhering to your self-imposed schedule. This is a metric shit-ton of music you're taking in, for a guy who's starting from a very limited repertoire to begin with. If the rounds push longer than 1 week, so be it.
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Yeah take all the time you need, I'm also digesting a lot of music on my roulette and I can assure you there's no need to keep this fast pace, it'll burn you out.
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If the erections last longer than a week, however, see a doctor
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Yeah take all the time you need, I'm also digesting a lot of music on my roulette and I can assure you there's no need to keep this fast pace, it'll burn you out.
Yeah, especially since it's only 5 rounds in this case.
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The Road Of Bones
give me a N
I'm guessing there's also Without Walls, Stay Down and The Province of the King
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T
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Between A, N and T, the band I sent will almost fully be revealed so you might as well guess it now :lol
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David Maxim Micic - Where Is Now?
and probably Nostalgia and Smile if i had to guess
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Between A, N and T, the band I sent will almost fully be revealed so you might as well guess it now :lol
Evermind sent Avantasia
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:tup
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evermind sent the scarecrow and alchemy not sure what else hopefully nothing off the bad albums
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Between A, N and T, the band I sent will almost fully be revealed so you might as well guess it now :lol
Adam Ant?
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David Maxim Micic - Where Is Now?
and probably Nostalgia and Smile if i had to guess
Sacul I guess?
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Nope, they beat me to it. Buddy? Dunno who else but me would send his stuff :lol
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Leprous - Forced Entry. The other songs aren't 100% but let's say The Price and Below, for the heck of it.
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David Maxim Micic - Where Is Now?
and probably Nostalgia and Smile if i had to guess
why tf not Mbinguni Amina?
Leprous - Forced Entry. The other songs aren't 100% but let's say The Price and Below, for the heck of it.
Cool batch. Did I send it?
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David Maxim Micic - Where Is Now?
and probably Nostalgia and Smile if i had to guess
why tf not Mbinguni Amina?
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David Maxim Micic - Where Is Now?
and probably Nostalgia and Smile if i had to guess
why tf not Mbinguni Amina?
Cuz the three I sent are better ;)
(also I didn't send Smile or Nostalgia)
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Checking off Leprous on the list of "bands I expected to be sent Round 1" because round 2 is close enough
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evermind sent the scarecrow and alchemy not sure what else hopefully nothing off the bad albums
If I've found which line items are his, I'll gather Twisted Mind, The Story Ain't Over, and Spectres (or maybe Alchemy?)
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It's Lucifer actually
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Good call on Lucifer. I was pretty sure you sent Avantasia as soon as you mentioned an 11-minute song.
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How are people guessing artists and songs already, LOL?
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Some people here have become so accomplished at hangman that if it was an Olympic event, they'd medal.
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AH'LL TAKE YOU HOME TONAAAAAAIIIHT
TOTHECEEEEENTER OF YOUR SO-WHOA-L
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How are people guessing artists and songs already, LOL?
Combination of predictable artists and being somewhat versed in word puzzles I guess :lol
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I mean, pretty much every band is available, and people know what bands appeal to other people :)
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How are people guessing artists and songs already, LOL?
It took me two minutes of staring at these to see which ones are mine!
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I already said earlier in the thread what I sent this round so I'm surprised nobody's bothered to guess it yet
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East of the Wall, obvs
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Correct
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Correct
I was just about to guess it as I was thinking "I've gotta be able to guess this band with four words!"
So, Thank You, Scientist next round?
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i ain't sending thank you scientist but they're also on the list of bands i expected to be sent
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Naif/Linear Failure/My Favorite Family(society) Guy
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Bolded for relevance
Naif/Linear Failure/My Favorite Family(society) Guy
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eww :lol
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False Build
The Apologist / Running Tab of Sweetness / Horseback Riding in a Bicycle World
also I see mine
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Ooohhh... Lucifer is one of my faves from Ghostlights.
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Well, I got more guesses than I expected, but as I did expect, a lot of guesses were correct. Looks like that small ban list will naturally make Hangman easy for you guys!
Also kid, no need to kill yourself trying to keep up with the pace you thought you'd be able to. I'm sure most of us would rather you spend enough time with the tunes to be sure of your opinions and thoughts about them, vs adhering to your self-imposed schedule. This is a metric shit-ton of music you're taking in, for a guy who's starting from a very limited repertoire to begin with. If the rounds push longer than 1 week, so be it.
Yeah take all the time you need, I'm also digesting a lot of music on my roulette and I can assure you there's no need to keep this fast pace, it'll burn you out.
Yeah, I'll be honest, I have been burnt out these past couple days. I just don't want to feel like I'm letting anyone down by being late for my deadlines, so that's why I've been pushing to get my results and impressions out as soon as I could. I think it was just the combination of being sent more music by more participants than I could've imagined with trying to fit all of that into a week into which I could reasonably listen to each submission at least a few times in order to get a solid opinion on them. If it'd really be okay to have longer than a week to get results for each round, then I think I'll do that.
Hangman update coming next post, by the way!
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Go at a pace that feels necessary to absorb the music. No need to rush anything. We aren't going anywhere. Just don't disappear on us....
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??: T__a_a__ - __nt___ __n____ _____d_
??: T__a_a__ - D______n_ __ __and___
??: ___n _a_d_n - T__ __a_____ant
??: ___n _a_d_n - ____ __ A_a__n
??: ___n _a_d_n - ____n___an
Cyril: East of the Wall - Naif/Linear Failure/My Favorite Society Guy
Cyril: East of the Wall - False Build
Cyril: East of the Wall - The Apologist/Running Tab of Sweetness/Horseback Riding in a Bicycle World
Buddyhunter1: DAVID MAXIM MICIC - Where Is Now?
Buddyhunter1: DAVID MAXIM MICIC - Da_d__a____
Buddyhunter1: DAVID MAXIM MICIC - D_____
??: ___n______ - ___t_
??: ___n______ - __t_n____
??: __nata A__t__a - ___t_ __a__, __a__ ___an_
??: __nata A__t__a - ___, Na___at_, _____n__at_
??: __nata A__t__a - D_a_ __
??: ___t_____t - __ant t_ ____
??: ___t_____t - __n___ Nat__n
??: ___t_____t - N__d__ and _a__ta__ ____
??: ___t_____t - Da__ ______
??: _a____t - _a___ __ ______t_
??: _a____t - A_and_n_d
??: _a____t - ____nt_ ____
??: _a____t - _a___n _ta_
??: ___ __n___ - ____ __ ____
??: ___ __n___ - _and___d_
??: ___ __n___ - _____n ___n
??: ___ __n___ - ________t__n
??: T__ D_a_ __nt__ - T__ _a___
??: T__ D_a_ __nt__ - A N___t _n t__ T__n
??: T__ D_a_ __nt__ - ____
??: T__ D_a_ __nt__ - __d _and_
Evermind: Avantasia - Twisted Mind
Evermind: Avantasia - The Scarecrow
Evermind: Avantasia - Lucifer
Evermind: Avantasia - The Story Ain't Over
??: A____t - ___ ___a___ d_ _'___
??: A____t - ______'_ _____
??: A____t - _______ _d _______
??: A____t - __a__
??: Leprous - Forced Entry
??: Leprous - The Price
??: Leprous - Below
??: __n_ ____d - ______
??: __n_ ____d - _______ t_ t__ _a___n_
??: __n_ ____d - T___
??: __n_ ____d - ______ta___ N___
??: _t___n _____n - _a___n_ ____n_
??: _t___n _____n - D_____ t_ ____ a _ta_
??: _t___n _____n - ___t_n_
??: _t___n _____n - ______
Luoto: Ne Obliviscaris - Devour Me, Colossus (Part I): Blackholes
Luoto: Ne Obliviscaris - And Plague Flowers the Kaleidoscope
??: ___d___n - T__ _a_d_n __ ____
??: ___d___n - __n___
??: ___d___n - T__ __an_ t_ ________
??: ___d___n - T__ T__ann_ __ __a__nat__n
??: IQ - _a___d ___nd
??: IQ - The Road of Bones
??: IQ - _ta_ D__n
??: IQ - T__ _____n__ __ t__ __n_
??: ____ - T___ __ __nn_n_ __t
??: ____ - _____tan__
??: ____ - _adn___
??: ____ - ______a_____ __a__ ____
Guessed letters: D N A T
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Go at a pace that feels necessary to absorb the music. No need to rush anything. We aren't going anywhere. Just don't disappear on us....
I don't plan on disappearing. I've got a roulette to finish, after all, and whether or not it continues to burn me out, I will see it through to the end.
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Steven Wilson
Deform to Form a Star is one song I'm too lazy to look at his other song titles and figure out the rest
Daydreamers for the second DMM song
Sonata Arctica
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Yeah, I'll be honest, I have been burnt out these past couple days. I just don't want to feel like I'm letting anyone down by being late for my deadlines, so that's why I've been pushing to get my results and impressions out as soon as I could. I think it was just the combination of being sent more music by more participants than I could've imagined with trying to fit all of that into a week into which I could reasonably listen to each submission at least a few times in order to get a solid opinion on them. If it'd really be okay to have longer than a week to get results for each round, then I think I'll do that.
Adding my voice to those who are saying take all the time you need. To me, the game part is the secondary element of this, anyway. I certainly try to win, but it matters far more to me that the host enjoys the music that I'm sharing. So as far as I'm concerned, I think you should go at the pace that is best for you to achieve that.
The Dear Hunter
The March
A Night on the Town
1878?
Red Hands
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Cmon folks, a banlist this small and you're still sending partially-banned artists? :biggrin:
Harmony Korine
Routine
Refuge?
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Cmon folks, a banlist this small and you're still sending partially-banned artists? :biggrin:
I know right? :lol
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Devise? That's an awesome song if so.
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Devise? That's an awesome song if so.
Maybe an unconventional pick, but easily one of his best :metal :metal :metal
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Just on the 'who sent what' front, I'm guessing:
Leprous - Elite
Sonata Arctica - Walrus
IQ - Jingle
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??: Teramaze - Control Conquer Collide
??: Teramaze - Delusions of Grandeur
??: ___n _a_d_n - T__ __a_____ant
??: ___n _a_d_n - ____ __ A_a__n
??: ___n _a_d_n - ____n___an
Cyril: East of the Wall - Naif/Linear Failure/My Favorite Society Guy
Cyril: East of the Wall - False Build
Cyril: East of the Wall - The Apologist/Running Tab of Sweetness/Horseback Riding in a Bicycle World
Buddyhunter1: DAVID MAXIM MICIC - Where Is Now?
Buddyhunter1: DAVID MAXIM MICIC - Daydreamers
Buddyhunter1: DAVID MAXIM MICIC - Devise
??: ___n______ - ___t_
??: ___n______ - __t_n____
MoraWintersoul: Sonata Arctica - White Pearl, Black Oceans
MoraWintersoul: Sonata Arctica - Fly, Navigate, Communicate
MoraWintersoul: Sonata Arctica - Draw Me
??: ___t_____t - __ant t_ ____
??: ___t_____t - __n___ Nat__n
??: ___t_____t - N__d__ and _a__ta__ ____
??: ___t_____t - Da__ ______
??: Kamelot - March of Mephisto
??: Kamelot - Abandoned
??: Kamelot - Memento Mori
??: Kamelot - _a___n _ta_
??: __p __n___ - ____ __ ____
??: __p __n___ - _and___d_
??: __p __n___ - _____n _p_n
??: __p __n___ - ________t__n
twosuitsluke: The Dear Hunter - The March
twosuitsluke: The Dear Hunter - A Night on the Town
twosuitsluke: The Dear Hunter - ____
twosuitsluke: The Dear Hunter - Red Hands
Evermind: Avantasia - Twisted Mind
Evermind: Avantasia - The Scarecrow
Evermind: Avantasia - Lucifer
Evermind: Avantasia - The Story Ain't Over
Nekov: Alcest - ___ ___a___ d_ _'___
Nekov: Alcest - ______'_ _____
Nekov: Alcest - P______ _d _______
Nekov: Alcest - _pa__
Lethean: Leprous - Forced Entry
Lethean: Leprous - The Price
Lethean: Leprous - Below
??: Pink Floyd - ______
??: Pink Floyd - Welcome to the Machine
??: Pink Floyd - Time
??: Pink Floyd - Comfortably Numb
??: Steven Wilson - Harmony Korine
??: Steven Wilson - Deform to Form a Star
??: Steven Wilson - Routine
??: Steven Wilson - Refuge
Luoto: Ne Obliviscaris - Devour Me, Colossus (Part I): Blackholes
Luoto: Ne Obliviscaris - And Plague Flowers the Kaleidoscope
??: Wilderun - The Garden of Fire
??: Wilderun - Linger
??: Wilderun - The Means to Preserve
??: Wilderun - The Tyranny of Imagination
romdrums: IQ - Sacred Sound
romdrums: IQ - The Road of Bones
romdrums: IQ - Stay Down
romdrums: IQ - The Province of the King
??: Muse - Time is Running Out
??: Muse - Resistance
??: Muse - Madness
??: Muse - Supermassive Black Hole
Guessed letters: D N A T
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That last TDH song better be something from The Color Spectrum.
Home?
Echo?
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IQ - Jingle
No chance. I'd have guessed Evermind, but he's already taken.
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IQ - Jingle
No chance. I'd have guessed Evermind, but he's already taken.
Ok, so you must be Teramaze then :lol
Control Conquer Colide
Delusions of Grandeur
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Maybe Nekov for IQ?
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Is that Alcest in there?
Also just wanted to say Where is Now? by David Maxim Micic is a friggin' great song!
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Also, might as well get another letter. How about a P?
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E
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Well, Hangmanen decided to crash because I asked for the letter "E".
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IQ - Jingle
No chance. I'd have guessed Evermind, but he's already taken.
Ok, so you must be Teramaze then :lol
Control Conquer Colide
Delusions of Grandeur
Steeee-rike 2! but that’s one amazing song!
I see Kamelot / Abandoned
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Pink Floyd
Welcome to the Machine
Time
Comfortably Numb
Edit: Oh, and probably Echoes
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Well, Hangmanen decided to crash because I asked for the letter "E".
You should hit up Ariich for his hangman spreadsheet. It works very very very well.
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I still do it old school.
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I still do it old school.
With stone and a chisel.
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I also do it old school, but then I sometimes forget a letter and people get mad. I would do that so much on one this long.
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I still do it old school.
With stone and a chisel.
:lol
Behind the scenes from the last TAC Roulette:
(https://blogs.reuters.com/photographers-blog/files/2014/02/2014-02-20T100350Z_251108524_GM1EA2K163N01_RTRMADP_3_VENEZUELA-CRIME.jpg)
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Pink Floyd
Welcome to the Machine
Time
Comfortably Numb
Edit: Oh, and probably Echoes
Big :tup for putting Welcome To The Machine in there. My second favorite Pink Floyd song behind Echoes.
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Pink Floyd
Welcome to the Machine
Time
Comfortably Numb
Edit: Oh, and probably Echoes
Big :tup for putting Welcome To The Machine in there. My second favorite Pink Floyd song behind Echoes.
I probably would have sent all those songs, except Time. I would have put High Hopes in its place.
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I would include High Hopes but I also wouldn't want to drop Time.
Sacred Sound
Stay Down (already guessed this a few pages before)
The Province of the King (same)
White Pearl, Black Oceans
Fly, Navigate, Communicate (why)
Draw Me
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Hangmanen has been updated (except for the letter E, because I'm not sure I have the patience to ensure I have each and every "E" correct).
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March of Mephisto for Kamelot.
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March of Mephisto for Kamelot.
Got sent this in my roulette by Scar :neverusethis:
Great song!
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IQ - Jingle
No chance. I'd have guessed Evermind, but he's already taken.
Ok, so you must be Teramaze then :lol
Control Conquer Colide
Delusions of Grandeur
Steeee-rike 2! but that’s one amazing song!
Goddammit!
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Muse:
Time Is Running Out
Madness
The Resistance
Supermassive Black Hole
Also seeing Memento Mori for Kamelot
Wilderun:
The Garden of Fire
Linger
The Means to Preserve
The Tyranny of Imagination
Goddammit, I was thinking that if I don't send them now, someone else will :lol
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Fly, Navigate, Communicate (why)
Because everyone instantly loves it, apart from you apparently? :rollin
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Sonata Arctica was sent by :mora:
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Sounds plausible
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Ok... let's start making some educated guesses:
The Dear Hunter - Luke
Alcest - Nekov
Leprous - Lethean (or Elite)
Steven Wilson - King
Wilderun - TAC
IQ - Rom
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No on me.
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Fly, Navigate, Communicate (why)
Because everyone instantly loves it, apart from you apparently? :rollin
I don't mind that song other than how phoned in Tony sounds. I think Candle Lawns and On The Faultline however are wonderful, Candle Lawns in particular.
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Pink Floyd
Welcome to the Machine
Time
Comfortably Numb
Edit: Oh, and probably Echoes
Big :tup for putting Welcome To The Machine in there. My second favorite Pink Floyd song behind Echoes.
I probably would have sent all those songs, except Time. I would have put High Hopes in its place.
This but High Hopes instead of Welcome to the Machine or Echoes. Never been a huge fan of either tbh.
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How about O
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Leprous - Lethean (or Elite)
no!
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How did Romdrums send BOTH IQ and Muse!? :lol
Was Steven Wilson sent by Elite then?
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you sent Teramaze or Pink Floyd
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Is that Kip Winger in the hangman? :lol
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Is that Kip Winger in the hangman? :lol
Who would do it!?!
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Oh that's HOF. :lol
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you sent Teramaze or Pink Floyd
I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but I already did confirm that I didn't send Teramaze.
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How did Romdrums send BOTH IQ and Muse!? :lol
Well... I have no idea how I messed that up! Romdrums sent IQ.
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??: Teramaze - Control Conquer Collide
??: Teramaze - Delusions of Grandeur
Stadler: Iron Maiden - The Clairvoyant
Stadler: Iron Maiden - Isle of Avalon
Stadler: Iron Maiden - Journeyman
Cyril: East of the Wall - Naif/Linear Failure/My Favorite Society Guy
Cyril: East of the Wall - False Build
Cyril: East of the Wall - The Apologist/Running Tab of Sweetness/Horseback Riding in a Bicycle World
Buddyhunter1: DAVID MAXIM MICIC - Where Is Now?
Buddyhunter1: DAVID MAXIM MICIC - Daydreamers
Buddyhunter1: DAVID MAXIM MICIC - Devise
Puppies_On_Acid: Moonsorrow - Huuto
Puppies_On_Acid: Moonsorrow - Jotunheim
MoraWintersoul: Sonata Arctica - White Pearl, Black Oceans
MoraWintersoul: Sonata Arctica - Fly, Navigate, Communicate
MoraWintersoul: Sonata Arctica - Draw Me
??: Switchfoot - __ant to ____
??: Switchfoot - _on___ Nat_on
??: Switchfoot - N__d__ and _a__ta__ __f_
??: Switchfoot - Da__ _o____
??: Kamelot - March of Mephisto
??: Kamelot - Abandoned
??: Kamelot - Memento Mori
??: Kamelot - Fa___n _ta_
HOF: Kip Winger - ____ of __f_
HOF: Kip Winger - _and___d_
HOF: Kip Winger - __o__n Op_n
HOF: Kip Winger - ________t_on
twosuitsluke: The Dear Hunter - The March
twosuitsluke: The Dear Hunter - A Night on the Town
twosuitsluke: The Dear Hunter - _o__
twosuitsluke: The Dear Hunter - Red Hands
Evermind: Avantasia - Twisted Mind
Evermind: Avantasia - The Scarecrow
Evermind: Avantasia - Lucifer
Evermind: Avantasia - The Story Ain't Over
Nekov: Alcest - ___ _o_a___ d_ _'___
Nekov: Alcest - ______'_ __o__
Nekov: Alcest - P______ _d _______
Nekov: Alcest - Opa__
Lethean: Leprous - Forced Entry
Lethean: Leprous - The Price
Lethean: Leprous - Below
jingle.boy: Pink Floyd - _o__o_
jingle.boy: Pink Floyd - Welcome to the Machine
jingle.boy: Pink Floyd - Time
jingle.boy: Pink Floyd - Comfortably Numb
??: Steven Wilson - Harmony Korine
??: Steven Wilson - Deform to Form a Star
??: Steven Wilson - Routine
??: Steven Wilson - Refuge
Luoto: Ne Obliviscaris - Devour Me, Colossus (Part I): Blackholes
Luoto: Ne Obliviscaris - And Plague Flowers the Kaleidoscope
??: Wilderun - The Garden of Fire
??: Wilderun - Linger
??: Wilderun - The Means to Preserve
??: Wilderun - The Tyranny of Imagination
romdrums: IQ - Sacred Sound
romdrums: IQ - The Road of Bones
romdrums: IQ - Stay Down
romdrums: IQ - The Province of the King
??: Muse - Time is Running Out
??: Muse - Resistance
??: Muse - Madness
??: Muse - Supermassive Black Hole
Guessed letters: D N A T P O F (but not E)
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F
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The letter O was guessed earlier, but I didn't end up needing that for this one:
Puppies: Moonsorrow
Huuto
Jotunheim
That's two bands with 35+ minutes of music, Wilderun being the other one :lol
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did anguyen send muse
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I'll try the Hangmanen thing again to get the letters in, but if it messes up on me again like it did when I had the audacity to have entered the letter "E", then I'll just stick to word/player guesses only for the time being (because listing everything at once in Hangmanen can be a very lengthy process). I'm still waiting on Ariich's response about that Hangman spreadsheet thing Puppies_On_Acid mentioned.
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I'm going to PM you the PM ariich sent me about his spreadsheet that he sent me for my last roulette, I hope he doesn't mind. edit: sent
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did anguyen send muse
Tis not me. Muse wasn't on my radar at all.
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Ok, if no one else is gonna call it, I will. This has gone on long enough.
Iron Maiden
The Clairvoyant
Isle of Avalon
Journeyman
As usual, sending the worst songs by a band. :lol
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Iron Maiden
The Clairvoyant
Isle of Avalon
Journeyman
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Ok, if no one else is gonna call it, I will. This has gone on long enough.
Iron Maiden
The Clairvoyant
Isle of Avalon
Journeyman
As usual, sending the worst songs by a band. :lol
Stads. LOL
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Ok, if no one else is gonna call it, I will. This has gone on long enough.
Iron Maiden
Caught Somewhere In Time
Paschendale
The Trooper
Hallowed Be Thy Name
As usual, sending the worst songs by a band. :lol
What are you talking about, those are all awesome and great choices to get someone into the band! :neverusethis:
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No wonder I kept thinking "who's that John something" with that selection of songs :lol
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Of the artists left guessing what I sent shouldn’t be too difficult.
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switchfoot
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The letter O was guessed earlier, but I didn't end up needing that for this one:
Puppies: Moonsorrow
Huuto
Jotunheim
That's two bands with 35+ minutes of music, Wilderun being the other one :lol
For some reason I thought we were limited to around 20 minutes of music. If that's not the case I should have added another Leprous song... :)
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Stadler :lol
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The letter O was guessed earlier, but I didn't end up needing that for this one:
Puppies: Moonsorrow
Huuto
Jotunheim
That's two bands with 35+ minutes of music, Wilderun being the other one :lol
For some reason I thought we were limited to around 20 minutes of music. If that's not the case I should have added another Leprous song... :)
Not quite, I just said not to send me a bunch of songs at once that were really long. So in this instance, two long songs is fine, but I'm not sure if I'd have been willing to go for a third song in a row of a similar length. That being said, make sure to balance out the long songs with some significantly shorter ones.
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I'd never send a full length's worth of music in one round, even if I had to make some slightly painful cuts like with Ne Obliviscaris who don't really do short songs. Those two are about 25 minutes in total.
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Switchfoot is a cool choice.
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Switchfoot was sent by anguyen
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Ok, if no one else is gonna call it, I will. This has gone on long enough.
Iron Maiden
The Clairvoyant
Isle of Avalon
Journeyman
As usual, sending the worst songs by a band. :lol
Stads. LOL
Classic. :rollin
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Ok, if no one else is gonna call it, I will. This has gone on long enough.
Iron Maiden
The Clairvoyant
Isle of Avalon
Journeyman
As usual, sending the worst songs by a band. :lol
You guys friggin' kill me. I swear. You MIGHT have had a point with "Plaster Caster", but c'mon, this is metal gold.
And if you think THIS is bad, wait till NEXT round!! :)
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Switchfoot was sent by anguyen
Correct! That one was mine.
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Ok, if no one else is gonna call it, I will. This has gone on long enough.
Iron Maiden
The Clairvoyant
Isle of Avalon
Journeyman
As usual, sending the worst songs by a band. :lol
You guys friggin' kill me. I swear. You MIGHT have had a point with "Plaster Caster", but c'mon, this is metal gold.
And if you think THIS is bad, wait till NEXT round!! :)
When you've got the choice of songs like 7th Son, Aces, Hallowed, Eagles, Children, Blood Brothers, Greater Good (to name just a few) .... and you send these three?
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Next round predictions
Top Jimmy
Atomic Punk
Romeo Delight
Happy Trails
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the frick's wrong with romeo delight?
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Ok, if no one else is gonna call it, I will. This has gone on long enough.
Iron Maiden
The Clairvoyant
Isle of Avalon
Journeyman
As usual, sending the worst songs by a band. :lol
You guys friggin' kill me. I swear. You MIGHT have had a point with "Plaster Caster", but c'mon, this is metal gold.
And if you think THIS is bad, wait till NEXT round!! :)
Yeah. Fool's gold. Jeeze, talk about scraping the barrel! :lol :) :)
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Nothing wrong with it... it just wouldn't crack the top 25 of too many people's Top VH songs.
@ Bill... it dawned on me that these submissions are like the Election. 325 million people, and these were the best two people your country could put up; 200ish IM songs, and these were the best three you could come up with??
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@ Bill... it dawned on me that these submissions are like the Election. 325 million people, and these were the best two people your country could put up; 200ish IM songs, and these were the best three you could come up with??
:rollin
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It's a good thing I took Pink Floyd away from him - he'd probably send Atom Heart Mother!!
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Stadler sending DT:
Status Seeker
Burning My Soul
Through Her Eyes
Constant Motion
Withered
:D :D :D :D
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Hey, Wither and Constant Motion are great. :lol
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Stadler sending DT:
Status Seeker
Burning My Soul
Through Her Eyes
Constant Motion
Withered
:D :D :D :D
I'm all for the Stadler ribbing, but hold on, Withered is a great song!
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Stadler sending DT:
Status Seeker
Burning My Soul
Through Her Eyes
Constant Motion
Withered
:D :D :D :D
I'm all for the Stadler ribbing, but hold on, Withered is a great song!
Given the past tense, it WAS a great song.
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the first three picks i get but the last two are pretty solid DT songs
if you wanted to send some absolute crap though why not Build Me Up, Break Me Down
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BMUBMD is actually great
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BMUBMD is actually great
I'm not a fan of it either. Least favorite on ADTOE.
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It's a good thing I took Pink Floyd away from him - he'd probably send Atom Heart Mother!!
And Seamus
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if you wanted to send some absolute crap though why not Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Or 95% of The Astonishing
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I disagree with literally everyone in the past two pages. I can't quote even half of the instances. I didn't even know this was possible. I have reached full DTF nirvana.
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if you wanted to send some absolute crap though why not Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Or 95% of The Astonishing
yes to both :biggrin:
I liked BMUBMD when the album first came out but man that song has aged like raw, unrefrigerated chicken. Or raw dog.
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I disagree with literally everyone in the past two pages. I can't quote even half of the instances. I didn't even know this was possible. I have reached full DTF nirvana.
You've reached peak internet!
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It's a good thing I took Pink Floyd away from him - he'd probably send Atom Heart Mother!!
DUDE. No lie, I LOVE that fucking song. Easily top 10 Floyd song for me. I'm not even joking a little bit.
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I disagree with literally everyone in the past two pages. I can't quote even half of the instances. I didn't even know this was possible. I have reached full DTF nirvana.
Since many of the posts were disagreeing with ME, I'm going to take that as a big :tup
:)
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It's a good thing I took Pink Floyd away from him - he'd probably send Atom Heart Mother!!
DUDE. No lie, I LOVE that fucking song. Easily top 10 Floyd song for me. I'm not even joking a little bit.
Why am I not surprised? :rollin
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It's a good thing I took Pink Floyd away from him - he'd probably send Atom Heart Mother!!
DUDE. No lie, I LOVE that fucking song. Easily top 10 Floyd song for me. I'm not even joking a little bit.
Why am I not surprised? :rollin
:tup
I can even say I've listened to that song within the last 72 hours. :)
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I don’t think I’ve heard any of the Maiden songs in question (or the Pink Floyd song for that matter), but that DT list is cracking me up.
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Ok, if no one else is gonna call it, I will. This has gone on long enough.
Iron Maiden
The Clairvoyant
Isle of Avalon
Journeyman
As usual, sending the best songs by a band. :lol
ftfy
Isle of Avalon is a particularly awesome choice. Top 5 Maiden song, and one of their more DT-esque moments.
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Thanks, 425; I'll get that $20 Venmo'd to you post haste! :) :)
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BMUBMD is actually great
I'm not a fan of it either. Least favorite on ADTOE.
Hey. You. Shut up! :P
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Next round predictions
Top Jimmy
Atomic Punk
Romeo Delight
Happy Trails
J- Boy, What is this? Romeo Delight is Grade A, and Atomic Punk is Grade A+.
Top Jimmy is fine.
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Next round predictions
Top Jimmy
Atomic Punk
Romeo Delight
Happy Trails
J- Boy, What is this? Romeo Delight is Grade A, and Atomic Punk is Grade A+.
Top Jimmy is fine.
I'm not saying they're bad, just that with an entire discography at ones disposal, those would not be my final 4 choices.
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BMUBMD is actually great
I'm not a fan of it either. Least favorite on ADTOE.
Hey. You. Shut up! :P
Yes sir Stadler.
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Next round predictions
Top Jimmy
Atomic Punk
Romeo Delight
Happy Trails
J- Boy, What is this? Romeo Delight is Grade A, and Atomic Punk is Grade A+.
Top Jimmy is fine.
I'm not saying they're bad, just that with an entire discography at ones disposal, those would not be my final 4 choices.
Atomic Punk would be in mine easily.
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Next round predictions
Top Jimmy
Atomic Punk
Romeo Delight
Happy Trails
J- Boy, What is this? Romeo Delight is Grade A, and Atomic Punk is Grade A+.
Top Jimmy is fine.
I'm not saying they're bad, just that with an entire discography at ones disposal, those would not be my final 4 choices.
Atomic Punk would be in mine easily.
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Stadler sending DT:
Status Seeker
Burning My Soul
Through Her Eyes
Constant Motion
Withered
:D :D :D :D
I'd say all of these songs are at least a 8/10.
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Stadler sending DT:
Status Seeker
Burning My Soul
Through Her Eyes
Constant Motion
Withered
:D :D :D :D
I'd say all of these songs are at least a 8/10.
I’ll give you Status Seaker, which I think is pretty cool (sounds like Rush).
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Stadler sending DT:
Status Seeker
Burning My Soul
Through Her Eyes
Constant Motion
Withered
:D :D :D :D
I'd say all of these songs are at least a 8/10.
No
Definitely not
DEFINITELY NOT
Yeah
Probably
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I'm not saying they're bad, just that with an entire discography at ones disposal, those would not be my final 4 choices.
Maybe I'm strange, but this isn't always the approach I take. I often try to pick the song from the top ~10% of a band's discography that I think the host will be most likely to enjoy. And in this case where multiple songs are sent, another consideration is trying to give a broad representative of a band's sound.
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I'm not saying they're bad, just that with an entire discography at ones disposal, those would not be my final 4 choices.
Maybe I'm strange, but this isn't always the approach I take. I often try to pick the song from the top ~10% of a band's discography that I think the host will be most likely to enjoy. And in this case where multiple songs are sent, another consideration is trying to give a broad representative of a band's sound.
Right. Like, I didn’t send my favorite Journey song even. I usually go with a mix of what I think might connect with the host and songs I just dig that I want to see if someone else will too (which are often not thought of as the band’s best songs).
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Stadler sending DT:
Status Seeker
Burning My Soul
Through Her Eyes
Constant Motion
Withered
:D :D :D :D
I'd say all of these songs are at least a 8/10.
Do you have a favorite DT album? Or favorite few?
From that list, I love Through Her Eyes. Sounded so good on the last tour too - really powerful. The others I like, except kinda Constant Motion.
For Maiden, I like The Clairvoyant a lot. I don't think I'd send it in a roulette though. I don't know - sometimes I send what seems to be the most popular songs from a particular band, and other times I just send what I feel like. I felt like maybe I shouldn't have sent Lacquer in round 1 but I did it anyway because that song hit me so hard and it (and City Burials in general) has been a great pandemic companion.
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Stadler sending DT:
Status Seeker
Burning My Soul
Through Her Eyes
Constant Motion
Withered
:D :D :D :D
I'd say all of these songs are at least a 8/10.
Do you have a favorite DT album? Or favorite few?
My Dream Theater album rankings, from most amazing to least amazing:
1. Black Clouds and Silver Linings
2. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
3. Octavarium
4. Metropolis Part 2: Scenes From A Memory
5. A Dramatic Turn of Events
6. The Astonishing
7. Distance Over Time
8. Systematic Chaos
9. Images and Words
10. Awake
11. Train of Thought
12. Dream Theater
13. Falling Into Infinity
14. When Dream and Day Unite
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Well, it's good to see some appreciation for Octavarium and BC&SL, at least. :lol
Surprised Train Of Thought is so low given the top three.
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Seeing the ranking of DT albums is pretty useful information! Mine would be almost the opposite (not totally)!
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Well, it's good to see some appreciation for Octavarium and BC&SL, at least. :lol
Surprised Train Of Thought is so low given the top three.
Well, Train of Thought has what I consider Dream Theater's "worst" song, so that brings down the album as a whole. If it weren't on the album, I think Train of Thought would be around #6 or #7.
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Well, it's good to see some appreciation for Octavarium and BC&SL, at least. :lol
Surprised Train Of Thought is so low given the top three.
Well, Train of Thought has what I consider Dream Theater's "worst" song, so that brings down the album as a whole. If it weren't on the album, I think Train of Thought would be around #6 or #7.
Wut?
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Well, it's good to see some appreciation for Octavarium and BC&SL, at least. :lol
Surprised Train Of Thought is so low given the top three.
Well, Train of Thought has what I consider Dream Theater's "worst" song, so that brings down the album as a whole. If it weren't on the album, I think Train of Thought would be around #6 or #7.
Wut?
Dream Theater has only ever done one song that wasn't good in my eyes, and that song would be Honor Thy Father.
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Honor Thy Father is a top ten Dream Theater song. TastesTM :biggrin:
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Honor Thy Father is pretty bad (lyrically at least), but Endless Sacrifice is also dreadful.
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y'all are weird
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Well, it's good to see some appreciation for Octavarium and BC&SL, at least. :lol
Surprised Train Of Thought is so low given the top three.
Well, Train of Thought has what I consider Dream Theater's "worst" song, so that brings down the album as a whole. If it weren't on the album, I think Train of Thought would be around #6 or #7.
Wut?
Dream Theater has only ever done one song that wasn't good in my eyes, and that song would be Honor Thy Father.
Nevermind. I misread it. :facepalm:
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Endless Sacrifice and Honor Thy Father are both good.
I'm continually surprised and confused by people's Dream Theater album lists, but I suppose as someone who puts SDOIT near the bottom I can't talk too much.
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Yeah particularly due to Six Degrees being their most creative record. I should revisit ToT, it's been years, I recall In the Name of God being an absolute banger.
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I listened to ToT for the first time in years (almost a decade probably) recently. Outside of Endless Sacrifice I thought it held up pretty well. I don’t like the lyrics to Honor Thy Father (or the Twelve Step one really), but the music is kind of cool. It’s not really the kind of music I ever listen to anymore, but it took me back to a certain time in my life and was kind of fun.
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at least we both agree that their self-titled sucks
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at least we both agree that their self-titled sucks
Well actually, I think the self-titled is very good. It's just near the bottom of my rankings because it's one of their most inconsistent albums. I think it has some incredible material (Illumination Theory, The Enemy Inside, The Bigger Picture), but also some forgettable tracks (The Looking Glass, Behind the Veil, Surrender to Reason).
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darn well i think it sucks
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I haven’t listened to any of the post-MP albums all that closely, but the self-titled is the only one that I actually considered buying after checking it out.
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The self-titled is the best post-MP album IMO, though the competition isn't exactly that tough.
You should rename this thread to the controversial Dream Theater opinions thread. :lol
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You should rename this thread to the controversial Dream Theater opinions thread. :lol
I'd make a humorously lengthy thread title, but the character limit for the thread name won't let me.
"Revenge319's relatively normal roulette: Not much to conceal (R2 Hangman, plus the slightly less important discussion of potentially controversial Dream Theater opinions)"
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No one's guessed what I sent this round! :P
I like the post-MP albums less and less in release order. So I'd rank them:
1. ADTOE (one of my favorites)
2. DT12 (middle of the pack)
3. TA (low)
4. DOT (maybe last)
Yeah particularly due to Six Degrees being their most creative record. I should revisit ToT, it's been years, I recall In the Name of God being an absolute banger.
Most creative =/= best. It's maybe creative to end Misunderstood with grating guitar sounds, but it's still bad. In the Name of God is fantastic, though.
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the end of misunderstood is Good, actually
i honestly think DT12 fails just on production alone because none of their albums -sound- worse, though The Astonishing and Distance Over Time both sound pretty bad too
but DT2 also just doesn't
have good songs
TA doesn't have many good songs either nor does DOT really but their highs are at least more interesting/better than DT12's highs. none of them are particularly good albums though and i doubt i'll be getting any future DT albums at this point lol
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Honor Thy Father is pretty bad (lyrically at least), but Endless Sacrifice is also dreadful.
Whistles..., the first time I've listened to Train of Thought (which was probably 5 years ago or so), those two songs were the big standouts to me.
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No one's guessed what I sent this round! :P
I like the post-MP albums less and less in release order. So I'd rank them:
1. ADTOE (one of my favorites)
2. DT12 (middle of the pack)
3. TA (low)
4. DOT (maybe last)
Yeah particularly due to Six Degrees being their most creative record. I should revisit ToT, it's been years, I recall In the Name of God being an absolute banger.
Most creative =/= best. It's maybe creative to end Misunderstood with grating guitar sounds, but it's still bad. In the Name of God is fantastic, though.
The best song on SDOIT (IMO) is Blind Faith. It was kind of the last great DT song for me.
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the end of misunderstood is Good, actually
i honestly think DT12 fails just on production alone because none of their albums -sound- worse, though The Astonishing and Distance Over Time both sound pretty bad too
but DT2 also just doesn't
have good songs
TA doesn't have many good songs either nor does DOT really but their highs are at least more interesting/better than DT12's highs. none of them are particularly good albums though and i doubt i'll be getting any future DT albums at this point lol
I think DOT and DT12 are their worst post-WDADU albums production-wise, yeah. TA I'm fine with. My main issue on DT12 and DOT is that it feels like there was this push to make things sound really heavy, but with the result being that the mix feels compressed and claustrophobic. Like, let the music breathe.
I like a lot of the songs on DT12. I also like many of the songs on DOT. But I think those albums represent a progression away from writing the kind of songs I come to DT for. This recent trend toward really compact songs just... does not fit with the reasons I listen to that band. It's crazy to me that they have not written a single song in the 10-15 minute range since ADTOE.
I'm definitely still more a fan of Dream Theater than a lot of the GMD denizens who have mostly left the band behind. I like all their albums and have favorites from even the more maligned ones. But there is something I'm wanting to hear from them that I haven't really heard since ADTOE.
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Stadler sending DT:
Status Seeker
Burning My Soul
Through Her Eyes
Constant Motion
Withered
:D :D :D :D
I'd say all of these songs are at least a 8/10.
Do you have a favorite DT album? Or favorite few?
My Dream Theater album rankings, from most amazing to least amazing:
1. Black Clouds and Silver Linings
2. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
3. Octavarium
4. Metropolis Part 2: Scenes From A Memory
5. A Dramatic Turn of Events
6. The Astonishing
7. Distance Over Time
8. Systematic Chaos
9. Images and Words
10. Awake
11. Train of Thought
12. Dream Theater
13. Falling Into Infinity
14. When Dream and Day Unite
We agree on #14. :) And possibly #2.
I don't have a definite list, but Scenes is pretty much my favorite, then I think Six Degrees, then The Astonishing. Then I guess Awake, the other 3 MM albums, and I&W in the next tier.
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I’ll bite:
1. Awake
2. FII (could be one depending on the day)
3. I&W
4. ACOS (it’s still an album’s worth of music and essential DT IMO)
5. SFAM
6. SDOIT
7. WDADU
8. TOT
9. Octavarium
10. Systematic Chaos (the last one I bought)
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I guess I'll do it too, why not. Approximate, especially since I haven't listened to some of these in years, but:
1. Images and Words
2. Metropolis, Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory
3. A Dramatic Turn of Events
4. Train of Thought
5. Awake
6. Systematic Chaos
7. Black Clouds & Silver Linings
8. Octavarium (not intentional)
9. Dream Theater
10. Falling Into Infinity
11. When Dream and Day Unite
12. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
13. The Astonishing
14. Distance Over Time
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i honestly think DT12 fails just on production alone because none of their albums -sound- worse
I think DOT and DT12 are their worst post-WDADU albums production-wise, yeah.
ADTOE would like a word.
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ADTOE certainly has a bad production, but it's bad in a way where I feel like someone was trying to do something I'd like and messed up, whereas DT12 and DOT are bad in a way where I feel the entire approach was just bad from the outset.
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the end of misunderstood is Good, actually
Agreed. I know a lot of people don't like the part where the guitar's all loud and screechy, but I don't mind it. I also think that single moment is the pure embodiment of the album's title. Inner turbulence, indeed.
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Absolutely. I think it's the album's creativity combined with the accessibility of their songs that hits the sweet spot for me and makes it my fav DT album.
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I love how different everyone's lists are.
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I like Misunderstood well enough too. It might be better without the backwards solo and weird sounds at the end, but I don’t hate them and the atmosphere of that track is kind of cool.
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To me, the ending of Misunderstood is like a smear of red ink splashed across a nice painting. It's an unpleasant, unartistic blight, and the worst songwriting decision they ever made. So much the worse that the rest of the song is quite good.
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Status update: I think I've found potentially the best song sent in this whole roulette so far... Comparing it to the best of Round 1, it's better than Hyperventilate, but I'm unsure if it's better than The Poet and the Pendulum yet.
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sure DT album ranking letsago
1. Awake
2. the rest idc anymore
3. S/T
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This thread has turned weird over last night :corn
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Yeah, if I wanted some DT discussion, I'd visit the DT part of this forum :biggrin:
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If we're going this then here goes:
1. Metropolis Pt2: Scenes from a Memory
2. Octavarium
3. Images and Words
4. Black Clouds & Silver Linings
5. Dream Theater
6. Systematic Chaos
7. Awake
8. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
9. Train of Thought
10. Distance Over Time
11. A Dramatic Turn of Events
12. Falling into Infinity
13. When Dream and Day Unite
14. The Astonishing
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All of your rankings are wrong.
1. Images & Words
2. Awake
3. Scenes From a Memory
4. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
5. Falling Into Infinity
6. A Dramatic Turn of Events
7. The Astonishing
8. Systematic Chaos
9. Distance over Time
10. When Dream & Day Unite
11. Train of Thought
12. Octavarium
13. Dream Theater
14. Black Clouds & Silver Linings
and I'm pretty sure every time I have made this list on these forums ever since I joined, the list has been different. The only constant factor being I&W and Awake take the top 2 spots, and BC&SL firmly holds the bottom.
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Maybe two half-correct opinions since I showed up last, carry on :lol
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Maybe two half-correct opinions since I showed up last, carry on :lol
This makes it 3 1/2
I think I'm getting a fever with all the hot-takes in the last couple pages. SC>I&W? BCSL is actually someone's favorite? :omg: Blind Faith the last great DT song??
It's crazy to me that they have not written a single song in the 10-15 minute range since ADTOE.
Though I'm not a huge fan of it, Illumination Theory is quite offended at this.
Yeah, if I wanted some DT discussion, I'd visit the DT part of this forum :biggrin:
:rollin
Let's get back to solving hangmen. New letter - S (which ought to help solve my final song).
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You know, I should list my favorite Rush albums here. :neverusethis:
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Status update: I think I've found potentially the best song sent in this whole roulette so far... Comparing it to the best of Round 1, it's better than Hyperventilate, but I'm unsure if it's better than The Poet and the Pendulum yet.
You're welcome :hat
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Hey, if we entertain ourselves, maybe Revenge won’t feel like he has to kill himself to get results out. Power Windows is the best Rush album BTW.
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Hey, if we entertain ourselves, maybe Revenge won’t feel like he has to kill himself to get results out. Power Windows is the best Rush album BTW.
No need to suck up to King.
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It's crazy to me that they have not written a single song in the 10-15 minute range since ADTOE.
Though I'm not a huge fan of it, Illumination Theory is quite offended at this.
Illumination Theory is either 19 or 22 minutes, depending on whether one includes the silent part and the little piano bit at the end. That's why I specified 10-15 minutes. ;)
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Illumination Theory is pretty bad for DT standards :corn
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Hey, if we entertain ourselves, maybe Revenge won’t feel like he has to kill himself to get results out. Power Windows is the best Rush album BTW.
No need to suck up to King.
All bow before my number one album.
Tim can suck it.
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Illumination Theory is either 19 or 22 minutes, depending on whether one includes the silent part and the little piano bit at the end. That's why I specified 10-15 minutes. ;)
Personally, I consider it 22 minutes. I know the section at the end is commonly referred to as an "Easter Egg", but I think it fits perfectly as the ending to Illumination Theory.
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(https://i.imgflip.com/28n5ln.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/28n5ln)
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(https://i.imgflip.com/28n5ln.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/28n5ln)
All other albums out of the water!
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(https://i.imgflip.com/28n5ln.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/28n5ln)
Yeah but Tim blows and sucks.
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It wouldn't really be the DT forum if we didn't have a top 10 of some kind in every thread :lol
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Power Windows is awesome. :)
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Power Windows is awesome. :)
Seriously. It's my favorite Rush album. Not sure why some people think it "blows".
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Power Windows is awesome. :)
Seriously. It's my favorite Rush album. Not sure why some people think it "blows".
People = Tim
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Sooo uh, give me an I. :lol
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Here you go:
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New Hangman update:
TAC: Teramaze - Control Conquer Collide
TAC: Teramaze - Delusions of Grandeur
Stadler: Iron Maiden - The Clairvoyant
Stadler: Iron Maiden - Isle of Avalon
Stadler: Iron Maiden - Journeyman
Cyril: East of the Wall - Naif/Linear Failure/My Favorite Society Guy
Cyril: East of the Wall - False Build
Cyril: East of the Wall - The Apologist/Running Tab of Sweetness/Horseback Riding in a Bicycle World
Buddyhunter1: DAVID MAXIM MICIC - Where Is Now?
Buddyhunter1: DAVID MAXIM MICIC - Daydreamers
Buddyhunter1: DAVID MAXIM MICIC - Devise
Puppies_On_Acid: Moonsorrow - Huuto
Puppies_On_Acid: Moonsorrow - Jotunheim
MoraWintersoul: Sonata Arctica - White Pearl, Black Oceans
MoraWintersoul: Sonata Arctica - Fly, Navigate, Communicate
MoraWintersoul: Sonata Arctica - Draw Me
Anguyen92: Switchfoot - __ant to _i__
Anguyen92: Switchfoot - _on___ Nation
Anguyen92: Switchfoot - N__d__ and _a_sta__ _if_
Anguyen92: Switchfoot - Da__ _o_s_s
425: Kamelot - March of Mephisto
425: Kamelot - Abandoned
425: Kamelot - Memento Mori
425: Kamelot - Fallen Star
HOF: Kip Winger - _iss of _if_
HOF: Kip Winger - _ands_id_
HOF: Kip Winger - __o__n Op_n
HOF: Kip Winger - __s_____tion
twosuitsluke: The Dear Hunter - The March
twosuitsluke: The Dear Hunter - A Night on the Town
twosuitsluke: The Dear Hunter - _o__
twosuitsluke: The Dear Hunter - Red Hands
Evermind: Avantasia - Twisted Mind
Evermind: Avantasia - The Scarecrow
Evermind: Avantasia - Lucifer
Evermind: Avantasia - The Story Ain't Over
Nekov: Alcest - Les Voyages De L'Ame
Nekov: Alcest - Summer's Glory
Nekov: Alcest - Percees De Lumiere
Nekov: Alcest - Opale
Lethean: Leprous - Forced Entry
Lethean: Leprous - The Price
Lethean: Leprous - Below
jingle.boy: Pink Floyd - Sorrow
jingle.boy: Pink Floyd - Welcome to the Machine
jingle.boy: Pink Floyd - Time
jingle.boy: Pink Floyd - Comfortably Numb
Sacul: Steven Wilson - Harmony Korine
Sacul: Steven Wilson - Deform to Form a Star
Sacul: Steven Wilson - Routine
Sacul: Steven Wilson - Refuge
Luoto: Ne Obliviscaris - Devour Me, Colossus (Part I): Blackholes
Luoto: Ne Obliviscaris - And Plague Flowers the Kaleidoscope
Elite: Wilderun - The Garden of Fire
Elite: Wilderun - Linger
Elite: Wilderun - The Means to Preserve
Elite: Wilderun - The Tyranny of Imagination
romdrums: IQ - Sacred Sound
romdrums: IQ - The Road of Bones
romdrums: IQ - Stay Down
romdrums: IQ - The Province of the King
kingshmegland: Muse - Time is Running Out
kingshmegland: Muse - Resistance
kingshmegland: Muse - Madness
kingshmegland: Muse - Supermassive Black Hole
Guessed letters: D N A T P O F S I (but not E)
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For Alcest:
Opale
Percees De Lumiere (did you put in "ed" by accident?)
Les Voyages De L'Ame
Summer's Glory
Not the selection I'd go with, but still good songs.
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Did Elite send Wilderun?
Katt sent Kamelot?
Anguyen sent Switchfoot?
Sacul sent Steven Wilson?
Stadler sent Teramaze?
King sent Muse?
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Stadler sent Maiden.
What did I send?
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Perhaps Tim sent Teramaze. Also, Katt/Walrus isn’t playing, only watching.
Always watching.
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Perhaps Tim sent Teramaze. Also, Katt/Walrus isn’t playing, only watching.
Always watching.
Oh, I'm not paying attention apparently. :corn
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Sorrow
Fallen Star
425 sent Kamelot, interesting
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Did Elite send Wilderun?
Yes
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King sent Muse?
Yup.
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425 sent Kamelot, interesting
Sure did.
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Hey Revenge, just looking at your 'banned because you don't like them' list. What is it you don't like about these bands? Have you listened to a fair bit by them, or just some of their hits have rubbed you up the wrong way? It might help us all know what to avoid sending in subsequent rounds.
For the record, I love all the mentioned bands, other than Bring Me the Horizon and In This Moment :rollin
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Hey Revenge, just looking at your 'banned because you don't like them' list. What is it you don't like about these bands? Have you listened to a fair bit by them, or just some of their hits have rubbed you up the wrong way? It might help us all know what to avoid sending in subsequent rounds.
For the record, I love all the mentioned bands, other than Bring Me the Horizon and In This Moment :rollin
I don't like any of those bands, except A7X. And I'm really curious what Revenge has heard by A7X and what he didn't like about them...
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I mean if the only song if he heard from them was Unholy Confessions, I can see why that can be a turn-off. If he heard stuff from City of Evil onwards and decided nope, oh well.
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I mean if the only song if he heard from them was Unholy Confessions, I can see why that can be a turn-off. If he heard stuff from City of Evil onwards and decided nope, oh well.
That's kind of what I was thinking, although I do like the albums before City of Evil as well..... :dunno:
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425 sent Kamelot, interesting
Sure did.
Sent some good fucking songs too.
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That was certainly my intention! :metal
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I sent some songs
Just songs
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Status update: The rating of every song has begun. I'll be honest, that one song I said was one of my favorites of the entire roulette is holding me back from getting this done sooner. It's so good that whenever I go to my roulette playlist, I see that song and decide to listen to it even though I've probably listened to it more than enough for this round.
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Itching to see what song this is! I was like this with A Night on the Town, but it's probably not that song :lol
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Itching to see what song this is! I was like this with A Night on the Town, but it's probably not that song :lol
I think when it's revealed, this song will probably surprise people, but it won't be anything really shocking.
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Jotunheim :corn
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Hey Revenge, just looking at your 'banned because you don't like them' list. What is it you don't like about these bands? Have you listened to a fair bit by them, or just some of their hits have rubbed you up the wrong way? It might help us all know what to avoid sending in subsequent rounds.
For the record, I love all the mentioned bands, other than Bring Me the Horizon and In This Moment :rollin
I forgot this post was here! I'll try to summarize what I don't like about each of the bands in my second ban list:
A7X: This is an interesting one. When I was a lot younger, I used to really like this band. But for some reason, I just stopped caring about them at some point. So this isn't necessarily a band I dislike, just one I have no interest in whatsoever anymore.
Slayer: Probably the worst band on this list (though there's a couple other contenders I'll get to). Extremely obnoxious in both music and vocals, and the lyrics are annoying and may have popularized what I call "LOL demons" lyrics, where the lyrics seem to be about satanism or something related to that solely for the purpose of shock value. That's a whole different discussion, though.
Bring Me the Horizon: Stupid. So, so stupid. I'm sorry to act so bitter and unreasonable, but that's really the best way I can describe this one.
Ghost: The lyrics turn me off of them, though I will say they do some interesting things musically here and there.
Volbeat: They're okay, but they feel really repetitive to me.
Green Day: Not much to say about this one, I just find them bland and uninteresting.
In This Moment: If Slayer isn't the worst, then this one is. At least the vocals in Slayer's music don't genuinely make me feel uncomfortable.
Lamb of God: Boring. Not the worst thing in the world, but I find nothing of interest with this band.
I mainly know most of these bands (the exceptions being BMTH and Green Day) because one or both of my parents are really into these bands. It might be easy to ask if there's a correlation between music I don't like and said music being stuff my parents listen to, but I'd say that's not true as there are some bands my parents like that I also like (some examples being KMFDM, Rammstein, Opeth, and probably a couple others I can't think of at the moment).
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That's fair enough. I'm not going to argue, or try to change your mind :lol
I have a somewhat irrational hatred for The Pet Shop Boys, U2 and Simply Red, so I kinda get where you are coming from. I'm not sure if it is the same for you but I've heard their famous songs enough to know that I dislike those songs. They could have something in their back catalogue I'd enjoy, but I have no interest in delving.
I find it interesting that you used to like A7X, but lost interest. I'm hoping it was the City of Evil era you liked, that was their peak!
Slayer, I love, not going to lie. I find their lyrics to be great (although it's not all great) but you've made it clear that those kind of lyrics doesn't do it for you. I'll avoid sending Cannibal Corpse :lol
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Well, guess I won't be sending Behemoth this roulette :neverusethis:
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Well, guess I won't be sending Behemoth this roulette :neverusethis:
I've heard a little bit of Behemoth before, and to me, they're basically a slightly less boring version of Lamb of God.
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Hahaha, I was mostly being sarcastic - while their album The Satanist is quite good, it's not amazing enough to the point where I'd consider sending them over [insert dozens of other bands here]. My comment was in reference to their lyrical content, as between Slayer and Ghost, those themes don't seem to appeal to your sensibilities. :lol
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I fully agree with you about the Slayer type of lyrics. It's a band that has never interested me at all.
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slayer are among the worst bands to have ever existed IMO i just loathe their style. awful riffs, awful solos, awful vocals, just, awful
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They have at least a couple good songs. Raining Blood is great.
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it's really, truly not
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slayer are among the worst bands to have ever existed IMO i just loathe their style. awful riffs, awful solos, awful vocals, just, awful
Yeah, even disregarding the lyrics, I think they're just annoying in every way. Honestly, it's almost like the vocals are the way they are to be annoying on purpose.
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Yeah, I agree with Cyril and Revenge on the whole Slayer... thing. I'd add: awful album art.
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it's really, truly not
damn you're right, what was i thinking
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Slayer is one of those bands I’ve never really listened to, but the snippets I’ve heard are plenty to tell me they must be absolutely dreadful.
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I guess I can kinda understand why some don't like them but they were pretty influential on my tastes as I was getting into metal. Slayer write more about death, war and anti-religion than anything satanic. I also love Tom Araya's voice, it's really distinctive and some of his live performances are just amazing. I think they have the perception of being this controversial satanic band, but there's more to them than that. I've heard a lot of criticism aimed at them over their simple riffs and their solos, but I'm not a guitar player so that doesn't mean much to me. I just want to head bang when I listen to them. Finally, they were one of those great bands (with their classic line up) where every member was the 'star', they were all such big personalities. I could go on :heart :heart :heart
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Of the Big 4 thrash metal bands, Slayer is the worst.
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I liked Slayer up through Seasons. I didn't love their albums after that, but I did like Repentless quite a bit. To me, their sweet spot was the South Of Heaven-Seasons Era.
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Of the Big 4 thrash metal bands, Slayer is the worst.
I can agree that Metallica and Megadeth are better, but Anthrax?? I can name one Anthrax song I like, I've never really understood why they were included in the Big 4, for me they are leagues behind the other three, not even close!
I liked Slayer up through Seasons. I didn't love their albums after that, but I did like Repentless quite a bit. To me, their sweet spot was the South Of Heaven-Seasons Era.
I can pretty much agree with this, for the most part, but God Hates Us All holds a special place in my heart, great album.
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In terms of thrash, I'm really only interested in Metallica (who I'm not really even sure is thrash post-KEA outside of a few songs) and the very occasional listen to Megadeth.
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megadeth have like a very tiny handful of good songs (holy wars is the best one) and then the other 99% of their stuff sucks too
metallica have probably the highest rate of quality but they're also the least thrash for sure :V
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I think Rust in Peace as a whole is a good album, and most of Countdown to Extinction, too (although that one is less thrash). The rest I'd generally call pretty spotty.
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Stadler sending DT:
Status Seeker
Burning My Soul
Through Her Eyes
Constant Motion
Withered
:D :D :D :D
I'd say all of these songs are at least a 8/10.
Do you have a favorite DT album? Or favorite few?
From that list, I love Through Her Eyes. Sounded so good on the last tour too - really powerful. The others I like, except kinda Constant Motion.
For Maiden, I like The Clairvoyant a lot. I don't think I'd send it in a roulette though. I don't know - sometimes I send what seems to be the most popular songs from a particular band, and other times I just send what I feel like. I felt like maybe I shouldn't have sent Lacquer in round 1 but I did it anyway because that song hit me so hard and it (and City Burials in general) has been a great pandemic companion.
I'm late to the party here, but I don't just send the "best four or five" songs. I can't say I really put a TON of thought into it, but I pick songs I like, and I pick songs that give the impression of the band that I want to give. I LOVE the songs I send, but I'm not saying that "these are the four best". For Maiden, "Total Eclipse" is a top five song, as is Rime Of The Ancient Mariner, Another Life, and Where Eagles Dare... I didn't send any of those. I was going for the "prog" side of the band, and maybe those songs that might have influenced Dream Theater over the years, or, even, where influenced by Dream Theater, which is the only touch-point I seem to have (musically) with Revenge.
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Bearing in mind I'm not a thrash guy, thrash - and the "Big Four" perplex me. I love Metallica, but generally the post-Black Album era. I like when James SINGS, and I like the more progressive aspects of some of the newer material. Megadeth is okay, though Mustaine's voice is sometimes a hurdle... but Anthrax and Slayer?? It's like saying "Hey, here's the 80's Synth Pop Big Four" and putting "Duran Duran", "The Cars", and adding "Kajakoogoo" and "Scritti Politti" in there. Or listing the "Big Four" of guitarists, putting Jimmy Page adn Eric Clapton on there, and rounding out with Johnny Ramone and Bob Dylan.
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Bearing in mind I'm not a thrash guy, thrash - and the "Big Four" perplex me. I love Metallica, but generally the post-Black Album era. I like when James SINGS, and I like the more progressive aspects of some of the newer material. Megadeth is okay, though Mustaine's voice is sometimes a hurdle... but Anthrax and Slayer?? It's like saying "Hey, here's the 80's Synth Pop Big Four" and putting "Duran Duran", "The Cars", and adding "Kajakoogoo" and "Scritti Politti" in there. Or listing the "Big Four" of guitarists, putting Jimmy Page adn Eric Clapton on there, and rounding out with Johnny Ramone and Bob Dylan.
This pretty much rings true to me. If I were to pick the true Big 4 of thrash, it would be Metallica, Megadeth, Testament, and Kreator.
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I'd definitely swap Anthrax out for Testament for my Big 4
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I wouldn’t willingly, but if I had to listen to one of the “big 4” of speed metal I’d probably choose Anthrax.
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I guess I can kinda understand why some don't like them but they were pretty influential on my tastes as I was getting into metal. Slayer write more about death, war and anti-religion than anything satanic. I also love Tom Araya's voice, it's really distinctive and some of his live performances are just amazing. I think they have the perception of being this controversial satanic band, but there's more to them than that. I've heard a lot of criticism aimed at them over their simple riffs and their solos, but I'm not a guitar player so that doesn't mean much to me. I just want to head bang when I listen to them. Finally, they were one of those great bands (with their classic line up) where every member was the 'star', they were all such big personalities. I could go on :heart :heart :heart
There used to be an internet radio show called "Used Bin Radio" - at least one of the guys used to post over at Mike's place a lot - and I listened religiously. One of the guys - I think it was Joe - used to sing the circus theme (The Entry Of The Gladiators) every time the topic of a Slayer guitar solo came up, and while that was hyperbole, it was sort of spot on. It just seems so one-note and such a caricature. It doesn't help that I'm not the hugest fan of Kerry King.
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If one video has the power to change people's minds on Slayer it is this...
https://youtu.be/FjLhLgdhzMQ (https://youtu.be/FjLhLgdhzMQ)
Behold, the Wham/Slayer mash up, Careless in the Abyss :lol
I should definitely send this in a roulette
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I've seen that before, and it is glorious!
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Status update: I will admit that my progress on scoring the submissions is going rather slowly, but at the same time I do prefer this over the alternative where I'm constantly burning myself out. I think by Round 3 or 4, I might've stopped caring about this altogether if I forced myself to stay on a very specific schedule.
Having said that, though, I plan on getting back on track now, and hopefully all the results should be out by this weekend.
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That's understandable. You have tons of music to listen to and it is pretty easy to be burnt out. Besides, you've seen how easily people get distracted talking about other topics while waiting :lol
By the way, I haven't seen any top 10 thrash metal bands lists yet...
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By the way, I haven't seen any top 10 thrash metal bands lists yet...
TOP 10 THRASH METAL BANDS LIST:
1. I dunno, I don't really listen to thrash metal
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Two weeks per round is a more than acceptable rate.
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Two weeks per round is a more than acceptable rate.
Before, I'd been using the beginning of the Song Roulette Tracker thread as a guideline, so that was partially why I wanted to stick with the schedule I had in mind. I think running this roulette has been a big learning experience for me regarding how I should run it.
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Two weeks per round is a more than acceptable rate.
Especially with a round as big as this! In my roulette I'm pretty sure I always went over a week, even when I had like 8 songs to listen to :lol
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Two weeks per round is a more than acceptable rate.
Especially with a round as big as this! In my roulette I'm pretty sure I always went over a week, even when I had like 8 songs to listen to :lol
I do like the way this roulette is, but if I ever do another one, it's going to have a lot more limitations as to make things a lot easier. As you said, this round is really big. I think in terms of the time length, it's even longer than Round 1! I've probably mentioned this before, but ultimately I think this was just a result of me not expecting so many people to join. Honestly, I was expecting around eight people at most to sign up for this thing!
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Status update: I will admit that my progress on scoring the submissions is going rather slowly, but at the same time I do prefer this over the alternative where I'm constantly burning myself out. I think by Round 3 or 4, I might've stopped caring about this altogether if I forced myself to stay on a very specific schedule.
Having said that, though, I plan on getting back on track now, and hopefully all the results should be out by this weekend.
Ariich:
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/8b9888847b83fe4abae950e3ec8a2a42/tumblr_mgowsmuHcL1s2ofm8o1_r1_500.gif)
By the way, I haven't seen any top 10 thrash metal bands lists yet...
That's cuz there aren't even 5 good thrash metal bands. :neverusethis: Honestly though, thrash metal - classic or whatever the genre is broken down into nowadays - absolutely sucks (for my tastes)
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Honestly, I was expecting around eight people at most to sign up for this thing!
Rookie mistake :lol
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Pretty much everyone signs up if someone decides to run their first roulette. :)
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Roulettes have gotten a lot more popular over the last few years too. There's less people running them (in the early-mid 2010s you'd usually ask to get put on the waitlist then have to wait like, half a year at the least before you finally get to go) but now you'll get like 12-14 people signing up at least, as opposed to like 8 or so back in the day.
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Roulettes have gotten a lot more popular over the last few years too. There's less people running them (in the early-mid 2010s you'd usually ask to get put on the waitlist then have to wait like, half a year at the least before you finally get to go) but now you'll get like 12-14 people signing up at least, as opposed to like 8 or so back in the day.
Largely a function of the fact that many of us have run 3 or more Roulettes. Not too many new members here, so the balance of hosts / players is heavily skewed to the latter.
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By the way, I haven't seen any top 10 thrash metal bands lists yet...
That's cuz there aren't even 5 good thrash metal bands. :neverusethis: Honestly though, thrash metal - classic or whatever the genre is broken down into nowadays - absolutely sucks (for my tastes)
Yeah, this. The whole conceit of "let's always play super fast and be angry and not have much melody" is not really a recipe for much interesting music. It was a little bit interesting to me when I was 15 and angry at the world, but even then I never went much farther than Metallica and Megadeth, neither of which, as I've already said, really played purely thrash, in my opinion.
Now that I'm a fair bit older with a much different outlook? There's not really much there for me. I still like Metallica a lot, though their thrash material is among my least favorite, and I still hold Rust in Peace in high esteem, though I rarely listen to it. And that's it. Give me prog metal, power metal, neo-prog, the so-called DTF fogey music (side comment: I think I might even be an underrated contender for most fogey-esque non-fogey here) any day.
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It'll still be a while before I get all the songs scored and ready for review (three bands have had me hooked!), and currently I have about half of the submissions scored.
But I figured I should give a little update beyond that... so I'll drop a little bombshell on you guys.
"First impression: I'm sorry, but if I gave my first impressions, I'd give away which submission I'm talking about."
True first impression: 4/10? More like 9/10.
I won't elaborate any further until the review. ;)
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Ah, so you really liked East Of The Wall :hat
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this is how i submitted them so, yeah :rollin
Round 2: btw this is my favorite album of all time give me that sweet 4/10
East of the Wall - Playlist (https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0VVZlbOhXPRj2pdxfiTGUl)
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you should give it a 3.5 :neverusethis:
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Nah, that East of the Wall album is great
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Results 1/3 coming soon...
It'll almost certainly be until at least tomorrow to get all three parts out, but I've got enough ratings to get some reviews made now.
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Here it is, the first third of the Round 2 results!
Lethean
Leprous
First impression: A much better experience than the last time I tried to listen to these guys.
Final review: A pattern you’ll notice this round is that a few artists I’ve been sent are ones I have listened to before. One of these artists is Leprous. I’d heard of them quite a bit before, so one day I decided to give their album Coal a shot. And overall, I thought it was… mediocre. There were a couple songs I did enjoy, but the rest wasn’t very interesting, and the final song “Contaminate Me” was dreadful. So upon getting this as a submission, I was interested to see if their other stuff was better, and I’m happy to say that this is an improvement! “Forced Entry” and “The Price” are very enjoyable, with my favorite parts usually revolving around the keyboards. “Below” isn’t quite as interesting, but it’s still a good song, and it has a really good vocal performance. I’m glad to know that Coal was seemingly a one-time thing with Leprous, because that’s an album that I don’t know if I’ll ever grow to enjoy. I’m interested in checking out Bilateral and The Congregation, at the very least.
Forced Entry - 8.5/10
The Price - 8.5/10
Below - 7.5/10
Roulette score: 8.2
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Buddyhunter1
David Maxim Micic
First impression: I like 'em, even if there's occasionally some questionable decisions made with these songs.
Final review: Considering my previous submission from Buddyhunter1 was Devin Townsend, I wouldn’t be surprised if this was sent because it has some vague similarities to Devin Townsend. The main difference is that with David Maxim Micic here, the style of music is less easily describable. In “Where Is Now?”, for instance, it kinda has this mix of a pop/electronic and rock aesthetic, but then a little over halfway through, it’s more metal with some occasional horn instruments in the background (which is easily the best part of the song), followed by this guitar solo that goes through one or two stylistic changes. I thought this was really well-done, and I’m guessing this is generally what goes on with this artist, but… I can’t say it works as well as it did in the other two songs I was sent. “Daydreamers” is good, but I feel like it goes on longer than it needs to. That’s mainly because of this section where it gets quiet and the female singer makes what I can only describe as “baby noises”. It might’ve been fine if it was just a short little thing, but this section goes on for about a third of the song. “Devise” is a pretty good song, too, but there’s this part towards the end where they just turn up the bass for no reason and the song eventually becomes this almost intangible mess. But overall, despite some odd issues here and there, there’s a lot of good and interesting ideas from this artist!
Where Is Now? - 8.75/10
Daydreamers - 7.75/10
Devise - 7.5/10
Roulette score: 8.0
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Nekov
Alcest
First impression: Sounds nice, although I don't know what to think of it beyond that.
Final review: I have to be honest, my thoughts haven’t really changed with this one. I think this might be a case similar to how I felt with The Ocean, where I know I enjoy it on some level, but I don’t know how I feel more specifically than that. And also similarly to The Ocean, I think I need to devote a lot more time to this to really “get” it. What can I say, then? It sounds very pleasant to listen to. It’s kind of atmospheric, and there’s a sort of uplifting feeling to the music. But it all just seems so “vague” if that makes any sense. It’s hard to remember anything about the songs after I’m done listening to them. For now, though, I was able to at least give them a score I’m satisfied with, even if they may end up inaccurate one day.
Les Voyages De L' me - 7/10
Summer’s Glory - 8/10
Percées De Lumière - 7/10
Opale - 7.5/10
Roulette score: 7.4
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Evermind
Avantasia
First impression: Some rather good, somewhat grandiose music.
Final review: Going in, I was kind of expecting music similar to Nightwish, though maybe that was just from looking at their name. “Avantasia” sounds like the name of a band who does symphonic grandiose metal. They do have grandiose moments occasionally, but they’re certainly different from Nightwish. Anyway, onto my thoughts on the music… Okay, if any of you seem disappointed in my reviews of your submissions, as though I hadn’t given them enough time to really understand them… I pin the blame not on myself, but on the song known as “Twisted Mind”. This song right here… Remember how I was teasing that there was one specific song that was slowing down my Round 2 progress and was one of the best songs in the entire roulette so far? Yeah, that’s Twisted Mind. It is so good that for a few days, every time I made an attempt to get through the rest of my Round 2 playlist that I hadn’t listened to more than once, I saw this song and I felt so strongly compelled to listen to it again and again and again. I’m still unsure if it’s better than The Poet and the Pendulum, but at this point I think it’d be more accurate to phrase that as “I’m unsure if The Poet and the Pendulum is better than Twisted Mind”. Epic opening, ominous vocals (that vaguely remind me of Neal Morse’s singing for some reason), AMAZING CHORUS, amazing everything, really.
...Oh, right, there’s some other songs here, too. They’re really good as well, actually, though not on the same level as Twisted Mind. “The Scarecrow” is a rather grand epic, and “The Story Ain’t Over” is a simpler song but quite pleasant to listen to. As a whole, Avantasia is very good, but Twisted Mind is particularly amazing. Basically guaranteed to be the best Round 2 song, unless there ends up being a song that I end up realizing is actually even better than Twisted Mind. I guess we shall see…
Twisted Mind - 9.5/10
The Scarecrow - 8.75/10
Lucifer - 8/10
The Story Ain’t Over - 8.25/10
Roulette score: 8.6
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twosuitsluke
The Dear Hunter
First impression: Overall, this is pretty enjoyable stuff!
Final review: This is another one of those bands that I started hearing about a lot when I started using DTF, and as such I was expecting them to be sent in this roulette. And I’ll just say, this is perhaps the best band sent in this round (the other contender, I’ll get to shortly). I really like the style this band goes for. To be honest, the best way I can describe this (at least as far as these four songs go) is if Haken combined their sounds from Visions and The Mountain and used that to create music in the style of Dream Theater’s The Astonishing. There’s a lot of symphonic elements and it works so, so well. “The March” and “A Night on the Town” are the best examples of their symphonic side, but they also have some more dramatic moments, and in that way it reminds me of The Astonishing to some extent. “Home” has this very uplifting mood, and it reminds me of something like “A Life Left Behind” or “Begin Again” despite the styles being very different from one another. I also think 2:33 sounds quite similar to the “As their bodies lie still…” section from “Finally Free”. The only somewhat weak song here is “Red Hands”. It’s actually a pretty good song, I’d say, there’s just this one annoying part in the second half of the song; I would’ve enjoyed this a lot more without that “Now my darling, put your clothes back on” part. I know what the story is about and all, but it’s still kind of annoying. But aside from that, I’d say The Dear Hunter is a great band just based on these four songs alone!
The March - 8.75
A Night on the Town - 9
Home - 9
Red Hands - 7.75
Roulette score: 8.6
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It’s time for the moment you’ve been waiting for. ...Well, surely at least someone here has been anticipating my thoughts on this one, right?
Cyril
East of the Wall
First Impression: 4/10? More like 9/10.
Final review: I like to think that (even though I don’t interact with people here much outside of this roulette) I’ve browsed many threads on here to the point where I know a lot about what goes on around DTF. And one thing I discovered was that Cyril’s favorite album was East of the Wall’s The Apologist. The moment I saw Cyril join my roulette, I knew I was going to be sent The Apologist at some point or another. And I waited with great anticipation for Round 2, to uncover the truth. Would it be mediocre and strange like some comments had led me to believe? Or would it turn out that it’s really good?
My answer? Cyril, at this rate, you need to change your personal text to “Holy Guide of the 9/10”, because you have impressed me with The Hirsch Effekt, and you have impressed me greater with East of the Wall. The more I listen to the songs on The Apologist, the better they get. I did think the harsh vocals were a bit odd at first, but they’ve really grown on me; it often feels like there’s a lot of emotion in these vocals. The soft vocals are very good, as well. The music is heavy and aggressive, but there’s about an equal amount of instances where it’s melodic and mellow. Since there’s technically seven songs here, it makes it a bit tricky to decide on my favorite of the seven, but I think at the moment I’m enjoying “Linear Failure” and “False Build” the most, but the other songs are also very good. After this round, I plan on listening to this album in full, and then after that I will probably make it a plan to purchase the CD for this album at some point. Like I said, these songs are just getting better and better with every listen. If The Dear Hunter isn’t the best Round 2 submission, it’s East of the Wall. I don’t think I would’ve guessed that I would enjoy this as much as I do, but I’m certainly glad I do enjoy it.
Naif/Linear Failure/My Favorite Society Guy - 9/10
False Build - 9/10
The Apologist/Running Tab of Sweetness/Horseback Riding in a Bicycle World - 9/10
Roulette score: 9.0
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The next two parts will probably take longer to come out, but hopefully I won’t keep you guys waiting for too long!
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Glad you enjoyed Leprous enough to explore them further. Coal is one of my favorites (actually listening to it now :)) but all of their albums are different maybe the others will be more to your liking.
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Interesting that Twisted Mind was *the* song. It's a good song, but rarely regarded as Avantasia's best. Enjoy that ride, Revenge. One of the best DTF recc'ns I've received in 10+ years being here.
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Yeah seems odd that Twisted Mind scored so well.
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Wow okay. I think Twisted Mind is perhaps the weakest of the bunch, or maybe that's The Story Ain't Over. :lol I just picked it because of how well it works in duo with The Scarecrow.
Good to know you liked it at least, welcome on board for the Avantasia train!
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Yeah, I like Twisted Mind pretty well, but The Scarecrow is the giant among those tracks (and really in the whole Avantasia discography).
However, I'll take it as a hopeful sign for me that Revenge like the vocals so much, since it sounds like he particularly enjoyed Roy Khan...
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:2metal:
time to piss it away with my later round submissions :lol
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Yeah, I like Twisted Mind pretty well, but The Scarecrow is the giant among those tracks (and really in the whole Avantasia discography).
I said in my PM that The Scarecrow was one of my favourite songs of all time.
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:2metal:
time to piss it away with my later round submissions :lol
I remember you mentioning you were worried about Round 3 and beyond, so I'm more interested than ever to find out what I'll think of the rest of your submissions.
Wow okay. I think Twisted Mind is perhaps the weakest of the bunch, or maybe that's The Story Ain't Over. :lol I just picked it because of how well it works in duo with The Scarecrow.
Good to know you liked it at least, welcome on board for the Avantasia train!
I figured my reveal that Twisted Mind was my favorite of Round 2 would surprise people to some extent. Seeing as I thought The Scarecrow was also very good, I definitely want to check out that whole album now. Also, between this and Beyond the Bridge, your submissions so far have been excellent!
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Glad you liked The Dear Hunter. They are far and away the best band I have discovered via DTF. I too find all the orchestral/symphonic elements enhance the music and make it so special. This was a more integral part of Acts IV &V, and I think this is where the band really put out their best output.
I'll be honest, I knew I was taking a bit of a gamble with Red Hands. On one hand it has the vocally emotional (which seems to be important to you) ending with the "BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BE CAUGHT RED HANDED IF YOU'RE NOT RED HANDED" part, but it also has lyrically sexual themes, which you stated were a turn off. I hoped the end would be enough to get past the subject matter.
Fair play Parama, your flogging of East of the Wall is paying off. I'm a big fan of The Hirsch Effekt (although I would have sent different songs) and I suppose East of the Wall is ok. Smashing it dude!
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I'll be honest, I knew I was taking a bit of a gamble with Red Hands. On one hand it has the vocally emotional (which seems to be important to you) ending with the "BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BE CAUGHT RED HANDED IF YOU'RE NOT RED HANDED" part, but it also has lyrically sexual themes, which you stated were a turn off. I hoped the end would be enough to get past the subject matter.
I think Red Hands is a good song overall, and the lyrical themes don't bother me too much. It's just that one chorus that I don't like, the rest of the song is quite good.
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:2metal:
time to piss it away with my later round submissions :lol
I remember you mentioning you were worried about Round 3 and beyond, so I'm more interested than ever to find out what I'll think of the rest of your submissions.
tbhhh there's one artist i found who i think would still fit into the arc of submissions i have going but wouldn't be like
as absurd as the round 5 entry i have lined up, but we'll see :lol
i might send them as a post-roulette submission too idunnolol
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Fair play Parama, your flogging of East of the Wall is paying off. I'm a big fan of The Hirsch Effekt (although I would have sent different songs) and I suppose East of the Wall is ok. Smashing it dude!
Now I'm hoping my flogging of Moonsorrow is going to pay off. It did with Ariich fortunately, but not really with anyone else. :yeahright
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Fair play Parama, your flogging of East of the Wall is paying off. I'm a big fan of The Hirsch Effekt (although I would have sent different songs) and I suppose East of the Wall is ok. Smashing it dude!
Now I'm hoping my flogging of Moonsorrow is going to pay off. It did with Ariich fortunately, but not really with anyone else. :yeahright
What does "flogging" mean?
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Fair play Parama, your flogging of East of the Wall is paying off. I'm a big fan of The Hirsch Effekt (although I would have sent different songs) and I suppose East of the Wall is ok. Smashing it dude!
Now I'm hoping my flogging of Moonsorrow is going to pay off. It did with Ariich fortunately, but not really with anyone else. :yeahright
What does "flogging" mean?
Beating a dead horse.......cramming it down everyone's throats (ears).......mercilessly pimping them......
Take your pick :biggrin:
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“Devise” is a pretty good song, too, but there’s this part towards the end where they just turn up the bass for no reason and the song eventually becomes this almost intangible mess.
Dude, that part's awesome. It feels like all of fucking reality is crumbling around you before dissipating into nothingness like a reverse supernova.
Oh well. :lol Glad you liked Where Is Now! Bilo 3.0 is an amazing, amazing album.
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“Devise” is a pretty good song, too, but there’s this part towards the end where they just turn up the bass for no reason and the song eventually becomes this almost intangible mess.
Dude, that part's awesome. It feels like all of fucking reality is crumbling around you before dissipating into nothingness like a reverse supernova.
I must say, that part becomes a little more interesting when you put it like that!
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cramming it down everyone's throats (ears)
Cramx3 style!
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cramming it down everyone's throats (ears)
Cramx3 style!
:lol
Some top notch scores in the first batch.
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cramming it down everyone's throats (ears)
Cramx3 style!
:rollin
Now if only Marc would participate in roulettes...
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Out of the Dear Hunter songs that were sent Red Hands would probably get like a 9.5/10 if I had to score this round. That song blew me away on first listen when I had no idea what I was hearing and single-handedly made me a fan of The Dear Hunter. Forced Entry by Leprous would get an insane score too and East of the Wall would do well as well. What a joy it would be if it were possible to listen to all those tracks again for the first time.
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Welp, that's disappointing :lol. I hope you revisit them later on, maybe when you're not in the middle of listening to a million other songs that are maybe obscuring them in contrast. While you post the rest of the results, I'll be sending for the next round.
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Results 2/3 coming at some point today. Sorry for being so slow on this, but I have a feeling I'll do better with the upcoming rounds. Now that I'll be going into a round knowing I have two weeks after this one, I think I'll be a little more efficient in listening and scoring music.
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Round 2 results continued!
MoraWintersoul
Sonata Arctica
First impression: Kinda reminds me of Nightwish in some ways.
Final review: I get the feeling this won’t be the last band I’m sent that reminds me of Nightwish. Not that that’s a bad thing, because this is pretty enjoyable! In hindsight, there isn’t that much of a resemblance to Nightwish, at least outside of the first song, “White Pearl, Black Oceans”. This song has that grand, almost cinematic feel to it, plus there’s a spoken word section at the end that reminds me a lot of the ending to Bless The Child. It’s quite good, but my favorite song of the three would be “Fly, Navigate, Communicate”. It’s very upbeat, and manages to be both fast-paced and a little atmospheric at the same time. It feels a little longer than it actually is, but that’s not a problem; I think that’s just a result of all the different things the band does in just four-and-a-half minutes. Draw Me is good as well, but the last minute is basically nothing of substance. I feel like maybe they wanted to do something in the vein of, say, the ending of LTE’s Three Minute Warning, but it goes on longer than it should have. But anyway, Sonata Arctica is pretty good! I might check out more of their stuff, if only because Fly, Navigate, Communicate was a particularly good impression.
White Pearl, Black Oceans - 8/10
Fly, Navigate, Communicate - 8.5/10
Draw Me - 7.75/10
Roulette score: 8.1
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TAC
Teramaze
First impression: One of the more impressive bands I've heard this round.
Final review: Here we have some rather modern music. My research indicates that Teramaze has been around since at least the mid-90’s, but the songs that were sent were made within the last five years. Of the two songs, I prefer “Delusions of Grandeur”. It has this almost uplifting feel to it, with some seemingly uplifting lyrics (though considering the sirens at the end, maybe there’s something darker going on?). Some parts kind of make me think of the song as what a modern version of Awake might sound like. The other song, “Control Conquer Collide”, is also enjoyable. It doesn’t quite have the emotion that Delusions of Grandeur has, but it’s still great and has some interesting ideas. So I quite enjoyed these two songs, I think I’ll probably check out more at some point.
Also, fun fact: Teramaze was the first band I was sent in this roulette, but it was delayed to Round 2 because TAC wanted to send UFO for the Fogey Battle.
Control Conquer Collide - 8.25/10
Delusions of Grandeur - 8.5/10
Roulette score: 8.4
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Stadler
Iron Maiden
First impression: Good stuff overall. I think James LaBrie's singing might've been influenced by this…
Final review: Here’s a band I’m slightly familiar with. And by “familiar with”, I mean my dad used to listen to a few of their songs (off the top of my head, those included 2 Minutes to Midnight, Run to the Hills, The Trooper, and I think one or two others). I also knew the song “Phantom of the Opera” before the roulette, which I thought was pretty good. So anyway, onto the songs I listened to in this round… These guys are actually very good. “The Clairvoyant” is about what I expected from an Iron Maiden song in terms of its style, but it’s really good. The vocals in this song remind me a lot of how James LaBrie sang in the early-mid 90's. The other two songs were quite a bit different than I expected, though. “Isle of Avalon” almost reminds me of Rush in a way. In any case, it’s a lot less heavy than I would expect. And then there’s “Journeyman”, which is even softer; it feels more or less like a ballad! This one is actually my favorite of the three. For some reason, the chorus really speaks to me. “I know what I want, I’ll say what I want, and no one can take it away…” All things considered, I enjoyed this band more than I expected to.
The Clairvoyant - 8.5/10
Isle of Avalon - 8.5/10
Journeyman - 8.75/10
Roulette score: 8.6
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425
Kamelot
First impression: I quite like this, though compared to Nightwish, Nightwish does it better.
Final review: So, Kamelot was sent to me as to “continue along in a similar direction” after my positive reaction to Nightwish. And while I still would say that between the two, Nightwish is better, I think Kamelot has grown on me. “March of Mephisto” reminds me of Nightwish, as well as Avantasia and I feel like one other band that I can’t quite put my finger on… Anyway, it’s a very enjoyable song and is my favorite of the four songs here. Other highlights are “Abandoned”, a rather sad-sounding ballad, and “Memento Mori”, which also starts out slow and ballad-like, but gradually gets more intense, with a lot of interesting elements. I’ll probably listen to the album “The Black Halo” at some point; there’s a lot of interesting stuff here and I’m curious to see what else is in store with the album.
March of Mephisto - 8.75/10
Abandoned - 8.25/10
Memento Mori - 8.5/10
Fallen Star - 8/10
Roulette score: 8.4
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Luoto
Ne Obliviscaris
First impression: It's good, although some parts were a bit boring.
Final review: Considering I really liked Amorphis in the previous round, I suppose it makes sense to send another band with some similarity to them. And I think Ne Obliviscaris does have the same elements that made Amorphis so interesting to me, but I think it might not be as well-executed. There are some rather interesting parts here; for instance, “Devour Me, Colossus - Part I (Blackholes)” has this nice middle section where there’s a lengthy violin solo, and combined with all the other instruments, it sounds very good. But there’s also some moments that aren’t bad, but are just kind of boring. These are usually whenever the harsh vocals are prominent, which I don’t think sound all that great, or at least don’t exactly fit with the music to me. I would say that overall, the highs outweigh the lows. These songs are far from bad, or even mediocre, I would just say that they’re not anything particularly special.
Devour Me, Colossus - Part I (Blackholes) - 7.75/10
And Plague Flowers the Kaleidoscope - 7.5/10
Roulette score: 7.6
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Anguyen92
Switchfoot
First impression: A lot more "casual" than what I'm used to, but it's alright.
Final review: So to clarify, when I say “casual”, I just mean it’s something… “normal”. Like, compare the Dream Theater songs Paralyzed and Octavarium. Between those two, Paralyzed is a much more “normal” song. I hope that makes sense. I just don’t want to give off the impression that I say “casual” as some kind of insult, since I think that’s the best way to describe Switchfoot’s music. That’s not a bad thing, though, I like to listen to more casual music. It’s simplistic hard rock, with their main strength usually being a good chorus, like in “Lonely Nation” and “Dark Horses”. The music is enjoyable in a lot of areas, too, most notably the main guitar riff in “Meant to Live”. There’s not much else that I found remarkable about Switchfoot, so I apologize if this review comes across as lacking compared to other writeups. With that said, though, I did like this band. I doubt I’ll come back to them, but I would certainly say they have some good music.
Meant to Live - 7.25/10
Lonely Nation - 7.25/10
Needle and Haystack Life - 7/10
Dark Horses - 7.5/10
Roulette score: 7.3
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Part 3 will probably be out on Wednesday. I really am sorry for having to make everyone wait so much, but I’d rather ensure that I have a solid opinion on the rest of these submissions than make a bunch of half-hearted writeups where I might not even know for sure what I’m talking about. Apologies for all the delays, and here’s hoping for a smoother Round 3 and beyond when we get there!
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Re Iron Maiden ... “These guys are actually very good.“
Everyone else: “You don’t say!!”
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Re Iron Maiden ... “These guys are actually very good.“
Everyone else: “You don’t say!!”
:lol
See them live. They'll blow you away.
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Hey Revenge, you prefer Youtube to Spotify, right? I can't remember. Seems like I last sent a month or so ago. ;D
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Hey Revenge, you prefer Youtube to Spotify, right? I can't remember. Seems like I last sent a month or so ago. ;D
Yeah, YouTube or music files. I don't use Spotify or any other music-streaming services.
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Speaking of submissions, feel free to send for Round 3 if anyone's ready!
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I'll take an 8.4! Definitely listen to The Black Halo when you get the chance, it's worth it as a full experience. And also try Epica, since it's the first half of the story, though it's in a bit of a different style and not quite as strong IMO.
I'll send soon, kind of deciding between two different approaches to my next artist.
EDIT: Just took a look at some of your post history, and decided, ah, fuck it (https://youtu.be/sPonEyNEwm4), I'll do what I've been tempted to do.
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Speaking of submissions, feel free to send for Round 3 if anyone's ready!
I definitely want to see my score for this round before I send. What I send will be highly dependent on the score I get for Moonsorrow.
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All right, looks like the Active Rock/Alt Rock/radio Alt metal stuff ain't going to cut the mustard here. Which sorta sucks because that's kinda like 80% of my repertoire, but I'll think of something for the next round.
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All right, looks like the Active Rock/Alt Rock/radio Alt metal stuff ain't going to cut the mustard here. Which sorta sucks because that's kinda like 80% of my repertoire, but I'll think of something for the next round.
If it's any consolation, there's a submission I haven't gotten to that will most likely score significantly worse than yours; I think 7.3 is a good score.
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Yeah, but I'm highly competitive and like a challenge, so I'll figure something to give you.
Edit: And submitted......
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All right, looks like the Active Rock/Alt Rock/radio Alt metal stuff ain't going to cut the mustard here. Which sorta sucks because that's kinda like 80% of my repertoire, but I'll think of something for the next round.
If it's any consolation, there's a submission I haven't gotten to that will most likely score significantly worse than yours; I think 7.3 is a good score.
Moonsorrow......... :(
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Or Wilderun :(
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I'm going to go listen to Moonsorrow and Wilderun in honor of these great bands that are about to be disrespected....
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I wonder if there was just too much going on at once, the music has probably more to take in than anything else sent so far. Still not a bad score, even though it's below average for the roulette.
Sent for round 3.
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I do get not liking NeO but these two songs, and Plague especially, I don't know if I remember any boring moments.
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Well, this ought to be interesting if everything is going to be compared against Dream Theater and the other 5 banned artists! :lol
Guess I was wrong... everything's gonna be compared to Nightwish. :lol
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Yay!!
First impression: Kinda reminds me of Nightwish in some ways.
I can't believe I guessed correctly, had I known 425 was sending Kamelot, I wouldn't have guessed this to be mine. But it makes sense that you would say that, NW and SA started at about the same time, they met at the very beginning when they were signed to the same label and became friends and toured together many times. There was definitely some creative cross-pollination happening there, and it still happens sometimes that they put out a NW-influenced song or two.
re: the ending of Draw Me, it's actually supposed to end at 4 minutes :lol the ending of that song on that upload is the end of the album it's on, doesn't have anything to do with the song.
Also, welcome to Iron Maiden, one of the greatest bands of all time.
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Stadler
Iron Maiden
First impression: Good stuff overall. I think James LaBrie's singing might've been influenced by this…
Final review: Here’s a band I’m slightly familiar with. And by “familiar with”, I mean my dad used to listen to a few of their songs (off the top of my head, those included 2 Minutes to Midnight, Run to the Hills, The Trooper, and I think one or two others).
:facepalm: ;D
The other two songs were quite a bit different than I expected, though. “Isle of Avalon” almost reminds me of Rush in a way. In any case, it’s a lot less heavy than I would expect. And then there’s “Journeyman”, which is even softer; it feels more or less like a ballad! This one is actually my favorite of the three. For some reason, the chorus really speaks to me. “I know what I want, I’ll say what I want, and no one can take it away…” All things considered, I enjoyed this band more than I expected to.
Hey TAC, SUCK IT! I don't always send the worst songs! :) :) :)
Just most of the time.
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Moonsorrow......... :(
Or Wilderun :(
Suspense! Which of these could it be... unless it's something else?! We'll just have to see once the last of my results FINALLY come out
I do get not liking NeO but these two songs, and Plague especially, I don't know if I remember any boring moments.
I think it's moreso that I find that the harsh vocals boring, and whenever those vocals are present, there's generally nothing particularly interesting going on in the background.
Well, this ought to be interesting if everything is going to be compared against Dream Theater and the other 5 banned artists! :lol
Guess I was wrong... everything's gonna be compared to Nightwish. :lol
:lol I can't wait for Round 3 where I unintentionally compare every submission to East of the Wall or something.
I can't believe I guessed correctly, had I known 425 was sending Kamelot, I wouldn't have guessed this to be mine. But it makes sense that you would say that, NW and SA started at about the same time, they met at the very beginning when they were signed to the same label and became friends and toured together many times. There was definitely some creative cross-pollination happening there, and it still happens sometimes that they put out a NW-influenced song or two.
Well, that makes their similarity to each other make so much more sense!
Stadler
Iron Maiden
First impression: Good stuff overall. I think James LaBrie's singing might've been influenced by this…
Final review: Here’s a band I’m slightly familiar with. And by “familiar with”, I mean my dad used to listen to a few of their songs (off the top of my head, those included 2 Minutes to Midnight, Run to the Hills, The Trooper, and I think one or two others).
:facepalm: ;D
Oh, what's the facepalm for? I'm guessing you're disappointed he only knows a few songs as opposed to their whole discography?
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No. Because I'm OLD. :)
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I almost had to do a spit take at someone liking FNC more than White Pearl or Draw Me.
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I almost had to do a spit take at someone liking FNC more than White Pearl or Draw Me.
Yep.
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Well, this ought to be interesting if everything is going to be compared against Dream Theater and the other 5 banned artists! :lol
Guess I was wrong... everything's gonna be compared to Nightwish. :lol
:lol I can't wait for Round 3 where I unintentionally compare every submission to East of the Wall or something.
Oh God help me.
:youfail:
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Well, this ought to be interesting if everything is going to be compared against Dream Theater and the other 5 banned artists! :lol
Guess I was wrong... everything's gonna be compared to Nightwish. :lol
:lol I can't wait for Round 3 where I unintentionally compare every submission to East of the Wall or something.
hell yes :rollin
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I almost had to do a spit take at someone liking FNC more than White Pearl or Draw Me.
Yep.
Almost as if you have to adjust roulette entries to the runner's personal taste :hat WPBO and Draw Me are my #1 and #4 but I think FNC is in my top 10 in all honesty.
then again I'm talking a lot of shit for someone who's about to totally wing it for round three
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I almost had to do a spit take at someone liking FNC more than White Pearl or Draw Me.
Yep.
Almost as if you have to adjust roulette entries to the runner's personal taste :hat
then again I'm talking a lot of shit for someone who's about to totally wing it for round three
Shit talking is 3/4 of the fun. :tup
(And given my typical place in most of these - last place or within shouting distance of last - your performance has nothing to do with it!)
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Slightly unrelated to the roulette itself, but I listened to the whole of the album "The Apologist". There were a couple weak tracks in the last third, but I've only heard those songs once and they could very well grow on me. Overall, though, it's a really great album. Thank you to Cyril for sending (half of) this album to me!
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Was hoping to wake up to results.
Is disappointed.
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I just sent the three worst songs from one of the greatest bands in the history of hard rock. SO excited. ;)
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While we are waiting for the final results of this round, I figured I'd ask a question. Did anyone else get Spotify solely for the purpose of roulette participation? I really don't use it for anything else. For me, I feel like I've worked hard at curating my music library, so, over the course of my day, I listen to stuff through iTunes, because I have my music library synced with my mobile devices, and it's commercial free. I was wondering because I use spotify strictly for building roulette playlists.
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While we are waiting for the final results of this round, I figured I'd ask a question. Did anyone else get Spotify solely for the purpose of roulette participation? I really don't use it for anything else. For me, I feel like I've worked hard at curating my music library, so, over the course of my day, I listen to stuff through iTunes, because I have my music library synced with my mobile devices, and it's commercial free. I was wondering because I use spotify strictly for building roulette playlists.
Me (or discographies, like UFO and Tull).
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While we are waiting for the final results of this round, I figured I'd ask a question. Did anyone else get Spotify solely for the purpose of roulette participation? I really don't use it for anything else. For me, I feel like I've worked hard at curating my music library, so, over the course of my day, I listen to stuff through iTunes, because I have my music library synced with my mobile devices, and it's commercial free. I was wondering because I use spotify strictly for building roulette playlists.
Nah... I've had it ever since they launched it in Canada.
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I've paid for Spotify since early 2012 but I probably wouldn't have ever participated in roulettes without already being a member of a streaming service. I can't imagine possibly participating or running a roulette without the help of something like that because of all the work involved
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Yeah I used to have a very curated music library but in the last few years I've ended up using Spotify more and more and barely touching my mp3 player :lol
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What's different between the pay and the free?
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While we are waiting for the final results of this round, I figured I'd ask a question. Did anyone else get Spotify solely for the purpose of roulette participation? I really don't use it for anything else. For me, I feel like I've worked hard at curating my music library, so, over the course of my day, I listen to stuff through iTunes, because I have my music library synced with my mobile devices, and it's commercial free. I was wondering because I use spotify strictly for building roulette playlists.
I signed up for a free account solely for the purpose of tracking down an obscure song I used to hear on our local radio station that I couldn’t find anywhere else. Since then, I’ve only used it to send music in roulettes.
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What's different between the pay and the free?
Well, if you pay for Spotify Premium, its ad-free which is actually huge since ads play after 10 minutes of music and the ads go for like 90-120 seconds until you hear songs again. Also, the ads aren't really the greatest that you want to hear over and over again. I'm waiting for a promotional deal that they occasionally use where Premium is $9.99 for 3 months (it's usually $9.99 a month).
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What's different between the pay and the free?
Well, if you pay for Spotify Premium, its ad-free which is actually huge since ads play after 10 minutes of music and the ads go for like 90-120 seconds until you hear songs again. Also, the ads aren't really the greatest that you want to hear over and over again. I'm waiting for a promotional deal that they occasionally use where Premium is $9.99 for 3 months (it's usually $9.99 a month).
Yup. Premium benefits include infinite skipping of tracks, no ads, able to listen to music offline, I *think* there's a cap to music you can download on the free version but not the paid one? and also you get higher quality from the paid version if my memory is correct.
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Apologies for letting you guys down again. There's a couple submissions or so that I still need to give a proper rating. It might be a bad idea to keep promising a specific time or day, so I will at least say that the last of the results will come out sooner than later.
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Nah it's fine, take your time. I know it is hard to keep up the pace so I just post results when they're done.
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Apologies for letting you guys down again. There's a couple submissions or so that I still need to give a proper rating. It might be a bad idea to keep promising a specific time or day, so I will at least say that the last of the results will come out sooner than later.
:soon:
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I'll send for Round 3 soon as I likely won't be on DTF much until the next weekend due to another bloody business trip.
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Apologies for letting you guys down again. There's a couple submissions or so that I still need to give a proper rating. It might be a bad idea to keep promising a specific time or day, so I will at least say that the last of the results will come out sooner than later.
:soon:
Mine could use a proper rating while you’re at it. ;D
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The last of the submissions have finally been scored, and the results will come out later today! (And about time, too, eh?)
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The last of the submissions have finally been scored, and the results will come out later today! (And about time, too, eh?)
Yes.
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The last of the submissions have finally been scored, and the results will come out later today! (And about time, too, eh?)
Yes.
What are you doing up so early on a Saturday Chad?
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I sent for round 3, hopefully haven't cock-blocked anyone :angel:
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The last of the submissions have finally been scored, and the results will come out later today! (And about time, too, eh?)
Yes.
What are you doing up so early on a Saturday Chad?
It's my quiet time. Plus, dog needs to be fed, and then I'm working out. When you get to my age, you get up at the same time 7 days a week for the most part. My body and mind don't know how to 'sleep in'.
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I sent for round 3, hopefully haven't cock-blocked anyone :angel:
With so many big / tier-1 bands available to use, you probably are.
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I have waited with sending until I get this round’s results :)
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At long last… Round 2 results, 3/3!
HOF
Kip Winger
First impression: It's alright so far, this could grow on me.
Final review: So this one’s a bit interesting. The more I listen to this, the more I feel like this is music I should be really enjoying. And I do enjoy it, but as a whole, I find it merely good, not great. The music usually sticks to a specific kind of mood that I really like, and it feels somewhat complex, too (not in a technical way, just in a well-made way). “Kiss of Life” is probably my favorite song here. It’s slow-paced, but also energetic, and there’s a lot of interesting stuff going on. Together, it all sounds really good. Maybe it will grow on me more at some point, but for now, it’s just on the verge of greatness for me. Same goes for “Broken Open”, which is a mostly upbeat track but with a slow, somewhat ambient intro. The vocals are good, not quite the best in the world, but they fit in really well with the music. I guess it hasn’t grown on me much since my initial impression, but who knows what’ll happen in the future?
Kiss of Life - 7.75/10
Landslide - 7.5/10
Broken Open - 7.75/10
Resurrection - 7.5/10
Roulette score: 7.6
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Sacul
Steven Wilson
First impression: Impressive as always.
Final review: I was going to open this with a joke about how Steven Wilson sounds a lot like “that guy from Porcupine Tree”, but then I saw my first impression and realized the joke would be kind of ruined because of it… Oh, well, now I can get straight to the point. Porcupine Tree is great, and I really enjoyed Steven Wilson’s solo album “The Raven That Refused to Sing”. Now, with the songs sent, there have been mixed results, but considering this is Steven Wilson we’re talking about, that just means they’re all at least an 8/10. I’m having a hard time picking my favorite song out of these four, but it would either be “Harmony Korine” or “Deform To Form A Star”. Harmony Korine has this really eerie but great atmosphere to it. And maybe it’s just because of the music video, but it feels very… sepia, if that makes any sense. As for Deform To Form A Star, it starts off like it’s going to be a minimalist piano ballad, but it turns into something beautiful. I’d say it was the start of something beautiful, but that happened back in 2000 when Porcupine Tree released Lightbulb Sun and gave us songs like Russia on Ice. “Routine” is kind of an interesting one; I really like this song, but I think this song would be better without the female vocalist. Her voice isn’t bad or anything (though it admittedly sounds kind of “generic”, for lack of a better word), but I feel like if it was just Steven singing, it’d add a lot more to the song. But hey, at the end of the day, this is all stuff Steven Wilson made, and Steven Wilson is great. He doesn’t have the midas touch that Dream Theater or Haken have for me, but these songs only serve to make me enjoy him more.
On a side note, I saw a comment on the music video for Routine that said something along the lines of “The feel-good hit of the summer!” and I’ve never simultaneously loved and hated a comment online so much.
Harmony Korine - 8.75/10
Deform To Form A Star - 8.75/10
Routine - 8.5/10
Refuge - 8.25/10
Roulette score: 8.6
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Elite
Wilderun
First impression: The harsh vocals feel unnecessary, but disregarding that, there's some interesting stuff here.
Final review: Conceptually, this seems like an interesting band; it’s heavy metal which has what I assume is “folk” elements. And this is more or less the music I expected from a description like that. There’s some cool stuff, but I do think that, except for one song, the harsh vocals could’ve been removed and replaced with clean vocals and the song would be improved. “The Garden of Fire” is a pretty good testament to that. I get that the music is fast-paced and a little thrashy, but I don’t think that kind of style always requires there to be harsh vocals. But when it’s not doing that, the song is actually rather enjoyable to listen to. However! There is one exception to this rule. “The Means to Preserve” manages to make really good use of harsh vocals. This is probably the best song here, regardless of whether those vocals sounded good, but it certainly makes it better that it does. I feel like that’s all I’ve been talking about, so to attempt to diverge from that topic, I will say that The Means to Preserve has a lot of interesting moments. There’s these clean vocals that kind of remind me of Moonsorrow… but we’ll get to that. Oh, we will… So anyway, this band has grown on me slightly. Far from the best sent this round, but there’s no way it could be the worst. By the way, I don’t have much to say about “The Tyranny of Imagination” that I haven’t discussed already, but The Means to Preserve transitions really well into The Tyranny of Imagination, despite them being on different albums.
The Garden of Fire - 7.5/10
Linger - 7.5/10
The Means to Preserve - 8/10
The Tyranny of Imagination - 7.75/10
Roulette score: 7.7
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Puppies_On_Acid
Moonsorrow
First impression: If anyone ever tells me that The Ministry of Lost Souls "should've been a 4-minute song", I will write a 100-word essay on why you are wrong.
Final review: Alright, after teasing it a couple times in my writeup for Wilderun, I should talk about my least favorite artist for this round… Moonsorrow. Now, I want to preface this by saying that I don’t think they’re bad or terrible or something like that. They’re not bad at all. However, with the songs I was sent, the thing I thought the most was, “Do these songs really have to be 15+ minutes?” Like, is this the equivalent to what a lot of people are thinking when they listen to A Nightmare to Remember? Anyway, the first song is “Huuto”, and this song is actually quite alright despite its length. There’s some good moments from time to time (key word: moments), though the vocals leave a lot to be desired… But yeah, it’s harmless, and I’d even say it’s strong enough to be considered good. But then there’s the other song, “Jotunheim”… I admit that it’s tempting to be really harsh with this one, but considering I think this song is a 6/10 (as opposed to something significantly lower) it’d probably be unfair, or at least it’d give off the impression that I’m confused on what I think of the song. Anyway, Jotunheim is a song that is 19 minutes and 29 second long. And of those 19-and-a-half minutes, I like this choir-type thing they do with the vocals, there’s occasionally a small little thing I liked, and… that’s about it, really. Everything kinda blends together when the song really gets going (aside from this part with this weird and jarring scream, as well as the part where the part with said scream is reprised), and it’s just not that interesting. But I think the thing that frustrates me more about this song is the ending. After 16 minutes, the song stops. And there’s just birds singing. Towards the end, you do hear a flute and a fireplace, but that’s about it. I mean, it sounds nice, but was it really necessary to dedicate the last three-and-a-half minutes of this song to… this?
But you know what, though? If this is the worst artist I get in this whole roulette, then that’s very impressive. At the same time, though… Yeah, it’s my least favorite artist in this whole roulette so far. Despite the roulette score being higher than KISS, I’d rather listen to KISS than listen to Moonsorrow.
Huuto - 7.25/10
Jotunheim - 6/10
Roulette score: 6.6
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romdrums
IQ
First impression: Pretty interesting stuff overall.
Final review: There’s one thing that pops up in my mind when I listen to IQ… Transatlantic. Maybe it’s just me, but this band sounds a lot like Transatlantic in some ways. But hey, that’s not a bad thing! Maybe it would be if this band was awful, but no, IQ is quite good. But to be honest, I’m finding it hard to talk about them beyond that. I think maybe I should’ve listened to these guys a little more (I have listened to every song a few times, but I think I’ve delayed these results for too long now, though), but there’s not much I remember from each of these songs aside from “Sacred Sound”. Which, incidentally, Sacred Sound is my favorite of these songs. Partially because it reminds me the most of Transatlantic, I’m sure, but I do quite enjoy this song disregarding that. The keyboards are especially great, which is generally how it is with the other IQ songs I’ve heard as well. I apologize if this review seems lacking, but that’s about all I have to say. But I will definitely have to check these guys out more, though, they are quite good indeed!
Sacred Sound - 8.25/10
The Road of Bones - 7.75/10
Stay Down - 8/10
The Province of the King - 8.25/10
Roulette score: 8.1
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jingle.boy
Pink Floyd
First impression: I think I'm finally starting to "get" this band.
Final review: So, I have heard Pink Floyd’s music before. And contrary to jingle.boy’s humorous comment in his submission message, my mom did try to get me into them a couple years back with the albums Dark Side of the Moon and The Wall. But even though it felt like music that I’d love, none of it really interested me. But now, after really listening to these songs, I think I’m finally starting to like this band. “Welcome to the Machine” is a very interesting song. I’m sure it’s about the music industry or expectations from society or something like that, but when I hear “Welcome, my son… Welcome to the machine”, combined with the almost eerie atmosphere, it feels like there’s just something very tragic about the song. Not that the song sounds depressing, though, but I guess what I’m saying is that I really like the opening lyrics. But even though I really like this song, it does have something that I don’t find particularly enjoyable about this band; the sound effects. At the end, there’s just a bunch of people talking and laughing. I imagine it makes sense in the song’s context, but I don’t really care for its inclusion. Similarly, in “Time”, the song starts out with clocks ticking, and then loud alarm clocks go off with bells clanging. I know, it’s called “Time”, but I’d prefer it if they didn’t use such an annoying sound. But that doesn’t detract from my enjoyment of the song, though. It’s a bit odd, though, it has this quiet and somewhat tribal atmosphere, but as soon as the lyrics come in, it’s all fun and upbeat. And then there’s “Comfortably Numb”, which is my favorite. I’ve heard that people love the guitar solos in this song, and while they are quite good… Honestly, I like everything else about the song more. It has a rather sad atmosphere to it, which makes sense considering the lyrics are rather sad, as well. It is such a pleasure to listen to, though. I’ll have to get into Pink Floyd’s discography now (at least for the albums represented here) and see what I think of the other songs now.
Sorrow - 7.75/10
Welcome to the Machine - 8.25/10
Time - 8/10
Comfortably Numb - 8.5/10
Roulette score: 8.1
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kingshmegland
Muse
First impression: They're a little better than I remember.
Final review: So I’ve actually heard this band before. Not that I was into them or anything, but my mom LOVES Muse (or at least most of their discography). And my dad utterly despises Muse and says the singer “sounds like a dying cow”. But enough about that, what do I think of them? I’d say they’re good with some hints of greatness. “Time is Running Out” is my favorite; the beginning feels a little out-of-place considering what the rest of the song is, but what I like is how emotional the lyrics and vocals are. That can mostly be said for the other songs that I was sent, but it’s especially prominent here. “Resistance” is quite interesting musically. It’s mostly upbeat, with a catchy chorus, but towards the end of the song it changes to something a little different, with an ambient outro. And then there’s “Supermassive Black Hole”, which blends rock and electronic together really well. The vocals are quite different but still good nonetheless. So yeah, Muse is better than I remembered it being, though maybe that’s an odd thing to say as I don’t really recognize any of these songs.
Time is Running Out - 8/10
Resistance - 7.75/10
Madness - 7.5/10
Supermassive Black Hole - 7.75/10
Roulette score: 7.8
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STANDINGS
Cyril: 8.8 + 9.0 = 17.8
425: 8.9 + 8.4 = 17.3
twosuitsluke: 8.6 + 8.6 = 17.2
Evermind: 8.6 + 8.6 = 17.2
Buddyhunter1: 8.9 + 8.0 = 16.9
Sacul: 8.2 + 8.6 = 16.8
romdrums: 8.4 + 8.1 = 16.5
MoraWintersoul: 8.3 + 8.1 = 16.4
TAC: 7.8 + 8.4 = 16.2
kingshmegland: 8.2 + 7.8 = 16.0
jingle.boy: 7.9 + 8.1 = 16.0
Luoto: 8.3 + 7.6 = 15.9
Lethean: 7.7 + 8.2 = 15.9
Elite: 8.1 + 7.7 = 15.8
Nekov: 8.2 + 7.4 = 15.6
Anguyen92: 7.9 + 7.3 = 15.2
HOF: 7.6 + 7.6 = 15.2
Stadler: 6.4 + 8.6 = 15.0
Puppies_On_Acid: 7.8 + 6.6 = 14.4
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Well, that’s a weight lifted off my shoulders! Alright, now is the time to send for Round 3 if you haven’t done so yet. Also, there’s quite a bit to keep track of when making the standings, so if any calculations are incorrect or something like that, please let me know and I’ll be sure to adjust it accordingly.
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First things first, who sends Steven Wilson when the host has PT and one SW album banned, especially considering that the banned list is only like 10 bands long?
Second, Revenge, I know I had lots of time to send but today has been especially difficult at work so I'll try to get my submission in the next 24 hours.
“Routine” is kind of an interesting one; I really like this song, but I think this song would be better without the female vocalist. Her voice isn’t bad or anything (though it admittedly sounds kind of “generic”, for lack of a better word), but I feel like if it was just Steven singing, it’d add a lot more to the song.
Also what? No way that'd work for me. Ninet is absolutely fantastic on this song.
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At long last… Round 2 results, 3/3!
HOF
Kip Winger
First impression: It's alright so far, this could grow on me.
Final review: So this one’s a bit interesting. The more I listen to this, the more I feel like this is music I should be really enjoying. And I do enjoy it, but as a whole, I find it merely good, not great. The music usually sticks to a specific kind of mood that I really like, and it feels somewhat complex, too (not in a technical way, just in a well-made way). “Kiss of Life” is probably my favorite song here. It’s slow-paced, but also energetic, and there’s a lot of interesting stuff going on. Together, it all sounds really good. Maybe it will grow on me more at some point, but for now, it’s just on the verge of greatness for me. Same goes for “Broken Open”, which is a mostly upbeat track but with a slow, somewhat ambient intro. The vocals are good, not quite the best in the world, but they fit in really well with the music. I guess it hasn’t grown on me much since my initial impression, but who knows what’ll happen in the future?
Kiss of Life - 7.75/10
Landslide - 7.5/10
Broken Open - 7.75/10
Resurrection - 7.5/10
Roulette score: 7.6
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Generally positive with an openness to it growing in the future, so I’ll take it! So a lot of people have a dim view of Kip Winger, for some reasons that are understandable and some that are not, but his solo albums are some of my favorites, and I think as you said, complex in a “well-made way” as opposed to technical, which is a trademark of his music. He’s a very high level musician (composes classical music as well, and not just hokey rock with an orchestra stuff, real classical music that has been performed by major symphonies and nominated for a Grammy). He has a tremendous voice but I agree it’s not something showy that you’d necessarily pick up on from what I sent you. Something about these particular tracks that I love is how well put together his bass tracks are. And you have the great Rod Morganstein drumming, which is one of the reasons I wanted to send you Broken Open. I love the drumming on that track.
Songs from the Ocean Floor is a top 5 album of all time for me, so you should at least give that one a full listen when you get a chance.
Will send round 3 soon!
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Jotunheim :corn
RIP
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Jotunheim :corn
RIP
:lol
Hey Revenge, do you think it'd be possible to add "banned during the roulette" list to the OP? It's usually no problem but as the results are scattered in parts, it becomes a bit of a pain to see if the band was already sent.
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more like moresorrow :neverusethis:
i'll be the second to say that "moonsorrow? kinda mid yeah"
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I definitely think Jotunheim is way too long, sorry Pup.
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i could say that of every song on that album, even excluding the like 5 minutes of ambience at the end of jotunheim
i have their 2016 album and it's, solid, but not one i've gone back to since... uh... 2016...
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Moonsorrow is one of those bands that at their best go from "do these songs really have to be this long", to "wow, this is actually good" after like three spins. You have to be ok with the vocals though.
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Jotunheim :corn
RIP
:lol
Hey Revenge, do you think it'd be possible to add "banned during the roulette" list to the OP? It's usually no problem but as the results are scattered in parts, it becomes a bit of a pain to see if the band was already sent.
They should've called that song Helheim
Ah, I'd forgotten to update the "Banned during roulette" list! I will do that now.
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Their most recent album is fantastic. Long songs, but damn good ones. Puppies keeps pushing the album Jotunheim is from but I've only listened to it once, so I can't really weigh in if I think the songs on it are too long quite yet.
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First things first, who sends Steven Wilson when the host has PT and one SW album banned, especially considering that the banned list is only like 10 bands long?
I was just following jingle's advice about cheating ;D
“Routine” is kind of an interesting one; I really like this song, but I think this song would be better without the female vocalist. Her voice isn’t bad or anything (though it admittedly sounds kind of “generic”, for lack of a better word), but I feel like if it was just Steven singing, it’d add a lot more to the song.
Also what? No way that'd work for me. Ninet is absolutely fantastic on this song.
But also this wtf :lol
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Sent!
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Sent!
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Sent as well. Will probably cock-block at least a couple people with this one... if someone hasn't already beat me to it!
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Their most recent album is fantastic. Long songs, but damn good ones. Puppies keeps pushing the album Jotunheim is from but I've only listened to it once, so I can't really weigh in if I think the songs on it are too long quite yet.
So here's the deal with Verisakeet. I too had the same reaction when I first listened to this album (it was my introduction to Moonsorrow). The songs seemed way too long, the instrumentation seemed to all blend together, the vocals seemed unnecessary, the production sounded muddy, etc etc. I set the album aside for about 2 years. When I finally came back to it I had upgraded the headphones I typically would listen to music on. That made a world of difference. If you are listening to Moonsorrow on shitty headphones or speakers, you are missing out on a lot. The instrumentation is just so dense, with so much going on, it can't be replicated on cheap equipment. Now I realize not everyone can afford expensive high quality sound setups, but it really does make a difference. At the same time, I had become more accustomed to 15+ minute songs that are not Prog Metal epics. I had become more engrossed in Atmospheric Black Metal and grew a lot of appreciation for long songs that don't go into instrumental wankery to pad the length (see Dream Theater or most traditional prog metal bands). Also I dug into the lyrical content more. Being a band that only sings in Finnish, this was a little more difficult, but the lyrics are fantastic and the vocals fit the concept perfectly. I have come to love the album so much it moved its way up to my number 2 album of all time.
I know I pimp Verisakeet more so than their other albums, but that's only because I feel it is the best place to get a full appreciation of the band in their prime. However, their albums V: Hävitetty, Kivenkantaja, and Jumalten aika, as well as the EP Tulimyrsky, are all basically just as good. I mean Jumalten aika is basically just Verisakeet 2 as far as overall sound goes.
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So here's the deal with Verisakeet. I too had the same reaction when I first listened to this album (it was my introduction to Moonsorrow). The songs seemed way too long, the instrumentation seemed to all blend together, the vocals seemed unnecessary, the production sounded muddy, etc etc. I set the album aside for about 2 years. When I finally came back to it I had upgraded the headphones I typically would listen to music on. That made a world of difference. If you are listening to Moonsorrow on shitty headphones or speakers, you are missing out on a lot. The instrumentation is just so dense, with so much going on, it can't be replicated on cheap equipment. Now I realize not everyone can afford expensive high quality sound setups, but it really does make a difference. At the same time, I had become more accustomed to 15+ minute songs that are not Prog Metal epics. I had become more engrossed in Atmospheric Black Metal and grew a lot of appreciation for long songs that don't go into instrumental wankery to pad the length (see Dream Theater or most traditional prog metal bands). Also I dug into the lyrical content more. Being a band that only sings in Finnish, this was a little more difficult, but the lyrics are fantastic and the vocals fit the concept perfectly. I have come to love the album so much it moved its way up to my number 2 album of all time.
I know I pimp Verisakeet more so than their other albums, but that's only because I feel it is the best place to get a full appreciation of the band in their prime. However, their albums V: Hävitetty, Kivenkantaja, and Jumalten aika, as well as the EP Tulimyrsky, are all basically just as good. I mean Jumalten aika is basically just Verisakeet 2 as far as overall sound goes.
I have a very good pair of headphones, so it's probably not that I've missed some elements of the instrumentation. Maybe one day I'll come back to it and pay very close attention to everything that's going on and see if my thoughts have changed. Also, the production sounded fine to me, but then again I'm probably one of the least qualified people on this forum to talk about good album production.
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So here's the deal with Verisakeet. I too had the same reaction when I first listened to this album (it was my introduction to Moonsorrow). The songs seemed way too long, the instrumentation seemed to all blend together, the vocals seemed unnecessary, the production sounded muddy, etc etc. I set the album aside for about 2 years. When I finally came back to it I had upgraded the headphones I typically would listen to music on. That made a world of difference. If you are listening to Moonsorrow on shitty headphones or speakers, you are missing out on a lot. The instrumentation is just so dense, with so much going on, it can't be replicated on cheap equipment. Now I realize not everyone can afford expensive high quality sound setups, but it really does make a difference. At the same time, I had become more accustomed to 15+ minute songs that are not Prog Metal epics. I had become more engrossed in Atmospheric Black Metal and grew a lot of appreciation for long songs that don't go into instrumental wankery to pad the length (see Dream Theater or most traditional prog metal bands). Also I dug into the lyrical content more. Being a band that only sings in Finnish, this was a little more difficult, but the lyrics are fantastic and the vocals fit the concept perfectly. I have come to love the album so much it moved its way up to my number 2 album of all time.
I know I pimp Verisakeet more so than their other albums, but that's only because I feel it is the best place to get a full appreciation of the band in their prime. However, their albums V: Hävitetty, Kivenkantaja, and Jumalten aika, as well as the EP Tulimyrsky, are all basically just as good. I mean Jumalten aika is basically just Verisakeet 2 as far as overall sound goes.
I have a very good pair of headphones, so it's probably not that I've missed some elements of the instrumentation. Maybe one day I'll come back to it and pay very close attention to everything that's going on and see if my thoughts have changed. Also, the production sounded fine to me, but then again I'm probably one of the least qualified people on this forum to talk about good album production.
In the end it all comes down to tastes. I've accepted the fact that most people on this forum don't like Moonsorrow. That isn't going to stop me from sending them in roulettes though :neverusethis:
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I haven't even received all the submissions, and there's already some unprecedented stuff going on in this round! You'll probably be able to piece together what those things are when I post my first impressions (which I'll most likely get out by Tuesday or Wednesday).
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I'll take the score, but man... some of those comments! Fair point about the end of Machine, but the song is just too damned good for that to take anything away from it.
After your comments regarding Time, it's a good thing I didn't send Money! :lol
Now to decide... keep it old school, or give you what you're clearly craving with modern metal.
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I'll take the score, but man... some of those comments! Fair point about the end of Machine, but the song is just too damned good for that to take anything away from it.
After your comments regarding Time, it's a good thing I didn't send Money! :lol
Now to decide... keep it old school, or give you what you're clearly craving with modern metal.
Yeah, the ending of Welcome to the Machine doesn't lessen my enjoyment of the song. Also, I do remember Money having some money-related sound effects as well (though I don't remember what exactly it sounded like).
Regarding the submissions, feel free to do whatever you like! There is plenty of modern stuff, it would seem, so I don't mind if you choose to keep going with the old-school stuff.
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In the end it all comes down to tastes. I've accepted the fact that most people on this forum don't like Moonsorrow. That isn't going to stop me from sending them in roulettes though :neverusethis:
Looking forward to listening to that whole album in a couple of weeks, then! :neverusethis:
Re: Steven Wilson: I also would not have sent him given the banned list, but I suppose I understand the inclination to always cheat. My heretical opinion is that I don't really "get" Routine, and that includes the female vocals. And also I haven't even heard any of the other Wilson songs that were sent.
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I think you'd love Deform to Form a Star, it's one of his best ballads.
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I think you'd love Deform to Form a Star, it's one of his best ballads.
I had it on a playlist I made for a trip to Vermont and cranked it today on the drive up.
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Re: Steven Wilson: I also would not have sent him given the banned list, but I suppose I understand the inclination to always cheat. My heretical opinion is that I don't really "get" Routine, and that includes the female vocals. And also I haven't even heard any of the other Wilson songs that were sent.
Well, I think it's fair game, seeing as I didn't ban Steven Wilson altogether. I suppose it is a really easy choice if you're wanting to get a good score, but as the host I'm just interested in listening to more music I don't know, which includes the majority of Steven Wilson's solo material.
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my round 5 artist is one i kinda expect revenge to react middlingly to and i'm still tempted to switch them out for someone else but hhmmm might be fun to lose
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my round 5 artist is one i kinda expect revenge to react middlingly to and i'm still tempted to switch them out for someone else but hhmmm might be fun to lose
I'll probably want to listen to your original line-up the whole way through, but if you decide at some point that you really want me to try out another artist instead, feel free to let me know. And if you decide to keep your Round 5 submission, feel free to send whatever other artist you were thinking of post-roulette. That goes for everyone else as well; I won't do proper first impressions or reviews, but when the roulette is over I can occasionally briefly talk about any other artists that you guys really wanted to send during this roulette. Although since that's post-roulette, it'd probably be a while before I'd discuss said artists.
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Yeah, especially since it's probably going to be a while for you to discuss the Round 3 artists! ;D
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the two artists i'm thinking of replacing that one with would either best belong between the current round 2 & 3 artists or the current round 3 & 4 artists respectively, we'll see what i decide in the end but i'll probably just stick to my guns because both are less uniquely pandacore imo lol but both very damn good all the same
if i need to dial back after round 4 i'll definitely send one as a replacement
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Just as a reminder, I still need Round 3 submissions from:
- Elite
- jingle.boy
- romdrums
- Sacul
- twosuitsluke
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Just as a reminder, I still need Round 3 submissions from:
- Elite
- Sacul
shocked. aghast.
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Sent my first real wild card.
Pretty sure this band has bombed in every roulette I've sent them in, but here goes.
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Checking out these Moonsorrow songs, see which side of the fence I lie. According to Last.fm I have listened to Jumalten Aika before, but I've not heard these two songs before.
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Just as a reminder, I still need Round 3 submissions from:
- Elite
- jingle.boy
- romdrums
- Sacul
- twosuitsluke
Really? Really? not even 12 hours after you finally post results for four of the above, and you're gonna call people out?
I'll take as much time to send mine as it took for you to post results. :neverusethis:
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Like a boss Chad. Like a boss.
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My result was in the last batch, so I’ll send quite soon.
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Just as a reminder, I still need Round 3 submissions from:
- Elite
- jingle.boy
- romdrums
- Sacul
- twosuitsluke
Really? Really? not even 12 hours after you finally post results for four of the above, and you're gonna call people out?
I'll take as much time to send mine as it took for you to post results. :neverusethis:
Aw, I didn't mean it like that... I'm sure you're probably joking about that, but it's just a friendly reminder, is all.
It's also a reminder for myself, in a way. I've gotta make absolutely sure I have all the submissions I need once everyone sends.
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Sent.
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Sent... from the God/Founding Father of prog-metal concept albums.
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Sent... from the God/Founding Father of prog-metal concept albums.
Something from Mindcrime surely
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Round 3 sent
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jingle.boy
Pink Floyd
First impression: I think I'm finally starting to "get" this band.
Final review: So, I have heard Pink Floyd’s music before. And contrary to jingle.boy’s humorous comment in his submission message, my mom did try to get me into them a couple years back with the albums Dark Side of the Moon and The Wall. But even though it felt like music that I’d love, none of it really interested me. But now, after really listening to these songs, I think I’m finally starting to like this band. “Welcome to the Machine” is a very interesting song. I’m sure it’s about the music industry or expectations from society or something like that, but when I hear “Welcome, my son… Welcome to the machine”, combined with the almost eerie atmosphere, it feels like there’s just something very tragic about the song. Not that the song sounds depressing, though, but I guess what I’m saying is that I really like the opening lyrics. But even though I really like this song, it does have something that I don’t find particularly enjoyable about this band; the sound effects. At the end, there’s just a bunch of people talking and laughing. I imagine it makes sense in the song’s context, but I don’t really care for its inclusion. Similarly, in “Time”, the song starts out with clocks ticking, and then loud alarm clocks go off with bells clanging. I know, it’s called “Time”, but I’d prefer it if they didn’t use such an annoying sound. But that doesn’t detract from my enjoyment of the song, though. It’s a bit odd, though, it has this quiet and somewhat tribal atmosphere, but as soon as the lyrics come in, it’s all fun and upbeat. And then there’s “Comfortably Numb”, which is my favorite. I’ve heard that people love the guitar solos in this song, and while they are quite good… Honestly, I like everything else about the song more. It has a rather sad atmosphere to it, which makes sense considering the lyrics are rather sad, as well. It is such a pleasure to listen to, though. I’ll have to get into Pink Floyd’s discography now (at least for the albums represented here) and see what I think of the other songs now.
Sorrow - 7.75/10
Welcome to the Machine - 8.25/10
Time - 8/10
Comfortably Numb - 8.5/10
Roulette score: 8.1
Hmmm... It's not my entry, and this sounds like excuses, but as someone who is a big Floyd fan, and who is actually in a Floyd mood right now (I listened to Live At Pompeii yesterday, as a matter of fact), I think that this is a hard band for a roulette.
I hear you about the sound effects, but when you listen to Dark Side, Side One, in it's entirety, it's got a flow to it. It BREATHES (pun intended), and part of it is that sound effect. You start the album with a heartbeat and "Speak To Me", and move into "Breathe", which gives you a sort of two-sides-of-the-coin look at life. And Roger, I think, opts for the cynical view (the second verse) where you're "digging holes" on your way to an early grave. The subsequent pieces - "On The Run", "Time", "Money" - snapshot those things that can drive you mad while you're busy "digging your holes". The "On The Run" instrumental is a repetitive, electronic sequence putting to music the fear of travel, so much a part of the modern "rat race". That ends abruptly with the clocks, and "Time" - the next level of stress takes over. The clocks are supposed to be jarring, and are supposed to break you from the repetition of the previous piece (almost like when a clock "breaks" you from your sleep).
Similarly, everything on Wish You Were Here - the album from which Welcome To The Machine comes - means something. The song is the second and last song on side one (the prior song is the first half of the "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" suite, about Syd Barrett, and my favorite Floyd song, period) and is meant to show how the music industry destroyed his friend, and, at that time, had started to fray the relationships of the other members of the band. The "door" is symbolic of that transition from "the Crazy Diamond", with his naive psychedelic hopes and dreams, to the "machine" that is the music business. I love love love how the entire song is a battle of sorts between Dave's organic acoustic guitar, and the electronic "washes" of Rick's synthesizers, which always seem to have the edge, don't they? On the album, that song ends side one, and side two starts with the equally critical (of the music business) "Have A Cigar?". For the rest of you; anyone see the influence of "Welcome To The Machine" on "Machine Messiah", by Yes?
Floyd is notoriously hard to present as a singles/greatest hits band (even though the labels have tried!) and the band even released a joke-y set called "A Collection Of Great Dance Songs" by request of the label that had only six songs on it (one entirely re-recorded because their previous record co. wouldn't license the track). I don't question your score - you have to score what you're given - but I think if you have any interest, I'm just saying you've only touched the tip of the iceberg.
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I had this bizarre dream last night where I received my Round 3 submission from jingle.boy, and he ended up sending literally 587 pages of artists to choose from. And I think at the beginning of his message, he gave me three suggestions on what bands I should pick, and one suggestion was "Deep Purple", but he put it in this large, fancy font that I don't even think you could add on here.
Fortunately, when I got to his actual submission this morning, it wasn't anywhere near as insane as that.
Hmmm... It's not my entry, and this sounds like excuses, but as someone who is a big Floyd fan, and who is actually in a Floyd mood right now (I listened to Live At Pompeii yesterday, as a matter of fact), I think that this is a hard band for a roulette.
I hear you about the sound effects, but when you listen to Dark Side, Side One, in it's entirety, it's got a flow to it. It BREATHES (pun intended), and part of it is that sound effect. You start the album with a heartbeat and "Speak To Me", and move into "Breathe", which gives you a sort of two-sides-of-the-coin look at life. And Roger, I think, opts for the cynical view (the second verse) where you're "digging holes" on your way to an early grave. The subsequent pieces - "On The Run", "Time", "Money" - snapshot those things that can drive you mad while you're busy "digging your holes". The "On The Run" instrumental is a repetitive, electronic sequence putting to music the fear of travel, so much a part of the modern "rat race". That ends abruptly with the clocks, and "Time" - the next level of stress takes over. The clocks are supposed to be jarring, and are supposed to break you from the repetition of the previous piece (almost like when a clock "breaks" you from your sleep).
Similarly, everything on Wish You Were Here - the album from which Welcome To The Machine comes - means something. The song is the second and last song on side one (the prior song is the first half of the "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" suite, about Syd Barrett, and my favorite Floyd song, period) and is meant to show how the music industry destroyed his friend, and, at that time, had started to fray the relationships of the other members of the band. The "door" is symbolic of that transition from "the Crazy Diamond", with his naive psychedelic hopes and dreams, to the "machine" that is the music business. I love love love how the entire song is a battle of sorts between Dave's organic acoustic guitar, and the electronic "washes" of Rick's synthesizers, which always seem to have the edge, don't they? On the album, that song ends side one, and side two starts with the equally critical (of the music business) "Have A Cigar?". For the rest of you; anyone see the influence of "Welcome To The Machine" on "Machine Messiah", by Yes?
Floyd is notoriously hard to present as a singles/greatest hits band (even though the labels have tried!) and the band even released a joke-y set called "A Collection Of Great Dance Songs" by request of the label that had only six songs on it (one entirely re-recorded because their previous record co. wouldn't license the track). I don't question your score - you have to score what you're given - but I think if you have any interest, I'm just saying you've only touched the tip of the iceberg.
Very interesting stuff! I did always have the impression that Pink Floyd albums were very much albums to be listened through as a whole, rather than individually, although I do think Comfortably Numb does work as a single track. This is definitely a band that I want to explore more, just to see where it takes me.
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I had this bizarre dream last night where I received my Round 3 submission from jingle.boy, and he ended up sending literally 587 pages of artists to choose from.
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/LPrAK9rEedDwjtL1J0/giphy.gif)
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I had this bizarre dream last night where I received my Round 3 submission from jingle.boy, and he ended up sending literally 587 pages of artists to choose from.
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/LPrAK9rEedDwjtL1J0/giphy.gif)
:lol
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Aaaaaaaaand now I'm listening to Pink Floyd for the rest of the day, thanks Stads :lol
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I had this bizarre dream last night where I received my Round 3 submission from jingle.boy, and he ended up sending literally 587 pages of artists to choose from.
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/LPrAK9rEedDwjtL1J0/giphy.gif)
Chad, I have a terabyte of music you could borrow.
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I think you missed the word "crap" somewhere in that sentence. I'll let you figure out where. :lol
I can also type in large font.
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Again, I know your tastes. :lol
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So I've been listening to the Round 3 submissions, and after one song had a pleasant ending, I got scared by the next song because of how loud the intro was. Well, maybe my volume was just higher than I realized, but wow... That hasn't happened to me since I listened to BTBAM's Alaska or the first couple times.
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So I've been listening to the Round 3 submissions, and after one song had a pleasant ending, I got scared by the next song because of how loud the intro was. Well, maybe my volume was just higher than I realized, but wow... That hasn't happened to me since I listened to BTBAM's Alaska or the first couple times.
Roboturner :lol :metal :metal :metal
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So I've been listening to the Round 3 submissions, and after one song had a pleasant ending, I got scared by the next song because of how loud the intro was. Well, maybe my volume was just higher than I realized, but wow... That hasn't happened to me since I listened to BTBAM's Alaska or the first couple times.
Roboturner :lol :metal :metal :metal
Yep! The start of that song is... certainly a way to start a song.
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Yep! The start of that song is... certainly a way to start a song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrFUT8s3PCg
Same energy. This came up on shuffle when I was dozing off once and woke me right up. :lol
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Question: Let's say that after the Round 5 results are all submitted, the top two participants end up having the same overall score. How should I do a tiebreaker?
It can be normal, simple, or utterly absurd (so long as it's an actual idea and not just a joke). I want to hear some ideas, whatever they may be.
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Let's start the suggestions with a simple idea. Just do a bonus round of list of songs from one more band. Or maybe, they can also have the option picking bands that was already mentioned in this entire roulette, just use different songs.
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Picking songs to send right now. You'll have it soon.
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Question: Let's say that after the Round 5 results are all submitted, the top two participants end up having the same overall score. How should I do a tiebreaker?
It can be normal, simple, or utterly absurd (so long as it's an actual idea and not just a joke). I want to hear some ideas, whatever they may be.
EP or album round. Ask them to make an entire EP or album, same band or different bands, whatever you prefer. You'll have more music to enjoy and they will have fun putting it together.
Or, for the sake of simplicity, ask them to send a full album by a band.
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Picking songs to send right now. You'll have it soon.
Sent. Really curious to your reaction to these. I really hope you'll enjoy!
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I would do a theme round. "Best song about a car". "Best song about drugs that isn't literally about drugs". Something like that.
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I would do a theme round. "Best song about a car". "Best song about drugs that isn't literally about drugs". Something like that.
Best song to listen to while waiting for Sacul.
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Let's start the suggestions with a simple idea. Just do a bonus round of list of songs from one more band. Or maybe, they can also have the option picking bands that was already mentioned in this entire roulette, just use different songs.
EP or album round. Ask them to make an entire EP or album, same band or different bands, whatever you prefer. You'll have more music to enjoy and they will have fun putting it together.
Or, for the sake of simplicity, ask them to send a full album by a band.
I would do a theme round. "Best song about a car". "Best song about drugs that isn't literally about drugs". Something like that.
Interesting ideas so far!
Best song to listen to while waiting for Sacul.
Well, a few weeks ago, I remember playing "The Whirlwind" by Transatlantic one night, and it made my wait for dinner feel a lot shorter. Perhaps that song is a strong contender! :lol
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I would do a theme round. "Best song about a car". "Best song about drugs that isn't literally about drugs". Something like that.
Best song to listen to while waiting for Sacul.
I like this.
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I would do a theme round. "Best song about a car". "Best song about drugs that isn't literally about drugs". Something like that.
Best song to listen to while waiting for Sacul.
I like this.
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Alright, I'm starting to like this theme idea, too. Submit whatever ideas you might have in this thread, however normal or weird they are, and if there's a tie-breaker round at the end I'll put them all on a decision wheel and see what we get.
Also, unless I decide to binge the rest of my entire roulette playlist tonight, first impressions will be coming out sometime tomorrow.
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My idea is that you let me score the results
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My idea is that you let me score the results
You know what? I am rather intrigued by this prospect. If I ever do another roulette again (which, I think doing this roulette was a really good idea, so I probably will), I will highly consider breaking a tie by having a spectator determine which participant sent what they consider the better submissions. Although I may have misinterpreted what you meant by that; if I did, please feel free to elaborate on what you meant by that.
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Take Kat's score and your nd make it the median.
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I'm not playing in this roulette. And I just meant let me score the songs. 1/10 for everyone. I'm a cheeky ass.
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My idea is that you let me score the results
You know what? I am rather intrigued by this prospect. If I ever do another roulette again (which, I think doing this roulette was a really good idea, so I probably will), I will highly consider breaking a tie by having a spectator determine which participant sent what they consider the better submissions. Although I may have misinterpreted what you meant by that; if I did, please feel free to elaborate on what you meant by that.
Something like that would never actually take place. :lol
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That would also kind of defeat the purpose of trying to find music tailored to a specific person, if that specific person is not going to be the one scoring the songs.
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That would also kind of defeat the purpose of trying to find music tailored to a specific person, if that specific person is not going to be the one scoring the songs.
You have a point.
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I can't think of any more impression-related song lyrics for the thread title, so this is just what I'm gonna go with.
Anyway, first impressions!
1. This was a lot more interesting than I expected!
2. Some may be confused to find out that this is one of my favorite submissions of this round (and perhaps even the whole roulette) so far.
3. They're good, but I wasn't expecting them to sound so... normal.
4. I expected the vocals to be the strong point, but I think I like the instrumental stuff more.
5. I was expecting something rather strange, but instead I got some very pretty, atmospheric music.
6. Pretty good stuff! This might grow on me a lot.
7. An impressive piece of music, this is.
8. It's alright. Reminds me a lot of Iron Maiden.
9. Pretty good! The vocals remind me of Neal Morse for some reason...
10. Unsure how I feel about the harsh vocals, but there's some pretty interesting stuff here otherwise.
11. The vocals can be kind of... ugly... at times, but instrumentally it's really interesting.
12. Certainly good, but I don't have much else to say about it.
13. Better than I was expecting, although I don't think I like the sampling much.
14. Some interesting stuff here, I think I can see what the hype is about.
15. Makes me think of a modern-day Marillion, only I can feel more emotions with this one.
16. It's similar to [REDACTED], but a little less interesting.
Technically it's Thursday in my time zone, but it's only around 1:45 AM, it's close enough for government work.
Hangman arrives later today. And I am so glad to have Ariich's spreadsheet this time, that Hangmanen program just would not cooperate with me...
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8. It's alright. Reminds me a lot of Iron Maiden.
50% chance this is mine.
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11 sounds like a safe bet, 10 if not that lol
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7 or 14. Bank on it.
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All I know is, I can rule out any of the ones about vocals. That's all I've got!
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4. I expected the vocals to be the strong point, but I think I like the instrumental stuff more.
8. It's alright. Reminds me a lot of Iron Maiden.
12. Certainly good, but I don't have much else to say about it.
16. It's similar to [REDACTED], but a little less interesting.
I think I'm in there somewhere.
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No idea, but *I think* 7 describes mine.
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5?
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6, 7, 12 or 14, I think/hope.
No idea really, some of the comments seem quite generic and could apply to a lot of different stuff.
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It'd be hilarious if mine was 9. I could see mine being 3 though.
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Some interesting speculation all around! I'll admit that one of these impressions is purposefully misleading... Not that I'm lying about something or anything like that, but you'll find out what I mean when the time comes.
Anyway, it is time for the Round 3 Hangman. Considering how the previous two Hangmans went, I wouldn't be surprised if this whole thing was filled out by the end of the day. Also, if you remember my comment about unprecedented stuff going on in this round, you're about to find out what I mean by that.
??: Spock's Beard
1: Day for Night
2: Crack the Big Sky
3: The Doorway
??: ___d_n __ ____
1: __dd___ __ ___ _____
2: ___ Mak______ __n______, __. _
??: ____n__ __nd__
1: ___ ___a_ ___a__
??: __a_k ___n_ ______
1: D____
2: __a__ __ ____
3: _____ __ ____d _____n_
4: _am___ ____
??: ___d _a___
1: ________
2: _____ __ ___ ___k_d
3: D_a___a
4: A _______n __ __a__n (____ _n A___n_)
Stadler: Deep Purple
1: No No No
2: N__ _____n_____
3: ___n
??: _____
1: ______
2: __ __ ___n
3: __ _____ ___ ____n__
??: Riverside
1: Second Life Syndrome
2: Egoist Hedonist
3: ____ __k_ _a___n_
4: ___ N____ ______
??: Riverside
5: Left Out
6: Hybrid Times
7: Driven to Destruction
??: Riverside
8: Time Travellers
9: Deprived (Irretrievably Lost Imagination)
10: Conceiving You
11: Volte-Face
??: Queen
1: _____ ____n
2: The March of the Black Queen
3: Somebody to Love
??: ___ ___ __a_n
1: A ___ _n Da_kn___
2: _a__ __a_n
3: _n___a___
??: M___ Ma_k__ ____
1: ____
2: D____a_ _a_____
3: ___ A________
4: ____d_n_ a Ma___n_
??: Pain of Salvation
1: WAIT
2: Iter Impius
3: Second Love
4: Beyond the Pale
Elite: Pain of Salvation
5: Rope Ends
6: King of Loss
7: Restless Boy
8: The Passing Light of Day
??: ___an____
1: __m_n ___ ____ M_n ___ ____ D____
2: __a__ __ ____
3: ___ __am_
4: ________
??: ___ __a_k Ma___
1: _____ ___ _____ _______
2: Ma___a_ _a__
3: _____ ____ _a_
4: Dan__n_ Mad
jingle.boy: Queensrÿche
1: I Remember Now/Anarchy-X/Revolution Calling
2: Operation: Mindcrime
3: Suite Sister Mary
4: Queen of the Reich
??: Karnivool
1: _._._._.
2: ____a__
3: __ A__
4: New Day
Guessed letters: D A N M K
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i'm starved of the D, give it to me
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Riverside
Second Life Syndrome
Driven to Destruction
Left Out
Hybrid Times
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A
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N
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Queen?
Pain of Salvation (x2)
jingle: Queensrÿche
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Three people sent Riverside? And it looks like there’s at least one more duplicate entry as well.
How about an M?
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jingle: Queensrÿche
I Remember Now / Anarchy-X / Revolution Calling
Operation: Mindcrime
Suite Sister Mary
:)
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jingle: Queensrÿche
I Remember Now / Anarchy-X / Revolution Calling
Operation: Mindcrime
Suite Sister Mary
:)
Sign of the Times?
Also, 3 people sent Riverside? :lol
And, someone sent Spock's Beard, one song of which is Day For Night.
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9. Pretty good! The vocals remind me of Neal Morse for some reason
We know why now. Lol
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because I wouldn't be surprised if you got sent Pain of Salvation, Riverside, <REDACTED>, Leprous, and Devin Townsend all in just round one.
well, we've almost hit the full gamut by now, by round three but STILL
Karnivool is there too btw, with New Day and some other songs
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all the pain of salvation songs i can get off the top of my head i guess
WAIT
Iter Impius
Beyond the Pale
Rope Ends
The Passing Light of Day
I notice no Idioglossia or even anything from TPE. Sad
edit: looked into their discog to find the rest
King of Loss (bad TPE pick this is one of the weakest songs lol)
Second Love (ehh??)
something with no letters guessed that might be Restless Boy? I guess?
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Spock's Beard:
Crack the Big Sky
The Doorway
Good choices, though interesting idea to go all NM-era with nothing from the later albums.
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Also, 3 people sent Riverside? :lol
:rollin :rollin :rollin
Egoist Hedonist
Deprived (Irretrievably Lost Imagination)
I should recognize the others but nothing's jumping out at the moment.
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I keep thinking at some point I'm going to finally get the fascination with that band... Hasn't happened yet.
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I keep thinking at some point I'm going to finally get the fascination with that band... Hasn't happened yet.
I tried and failed. Same with Pain of Salvation. Daniel Gildenlow is just so extra.
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Stadler sent Queen. Motherfucker... I had them tapped for next round. Good call on SB as well - I had them on the shortlist.
Sign of the Times?
Are you nucking futz?? Never in a million years.
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Queensryche - Queen Of The Reich
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Also, 3 people sent Riverside? :lol
Yep. I'm surprised it took until Round 3 to get duplicate submissions!
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Stadler sent Queen. Motherfucker... I had them tapped for next round. Good call on SB as well - I had them on the shortlist.
Sign of the Times?
Are you nucking futz?? Never in a million years.
;D
EDIT: I see someone guessed correctly above.
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Also, let's see a K.
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I keep thinking at some point I'm going to finally get the fascination with that band... Hasn't happened yet.
I tried and failed. Same with Pain of Salvation. Daniel Gildenlow is just so extra.
Yeah, he does have a good voice, but something about the way he sings irks me. I even hate when he shows up in Transatlantic and The Flower Kings.
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I keep thinking at some point I'm going to finally get the fascination with that band... Hasn't happened yet.
I tried and failed. Same with Pain of Salvation. Daniel Gildenlow is just so extra.
Yeah, he does have a good voice, but something about the way he sings irks me. I even hate when he shows up in Transatlantic and The Flower Kings.
I'd recommend staying away from The Sea Within as well. More of the same, from Roine and from Daniel.
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I keep thinking at some point I'm going to finally get the fascination with that band... Hasn't happened yet.
I tried and failed. Same with Pain of Salvation. Daniel Gildenlow is just so extra.
Yeah, he does have a good voice, but something about the way he sings irks me. I even hate when he shows up in Transatlantic and The Flower Kings.
I'd recommend staying away from The Sea Within as well. More of the same, from Roine and from Daniel.
Yeah, I’ve shied away from that one.
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Killer Queen
Somebody to Love
No clue what the second one is. That's a deep cut.
Definitely Stadler ... sending the worst songs as usual.
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Killer Queen
Somebody to Love
No clue what the second one is. That's a deep cut.
Definitely Stadler ... sending the worst songs as usual.
It's The March Of The Black Queen, and blow me. ;D I might have sent that one, but if I sent Queen - and I did not - I never would have sent Killer Queen or Somebody To Love.
(I would have sent: One Vision, Funny How Love Is, and The Prophet's Song)
I very clearly sent the worst songs of ANOTHER legendary 70's band.
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And that band was Deep Purple?
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The PoS with Restless Boy is Elite.
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Conceiving You
Time Travelers
Volte-Face
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And that band was Deep Purple?
Googles to see if Deep Purple has a song titled No No No, and it checks out.
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Revenge, do you enjoy electronic music? :corn :corn :corn
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Revenge, do you enjoy electronic music? :corn :corn :corn
Yeah, I find electronic music to be very enjoyable. From this roulette, I really liked Chroma Key, and Muse had some really good electronic elements to it.
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King of Loss (bad TPE pick this is one of the weakest songs lol)
Certainly you mean one of the best songs they have ever done.
The PoS with Restless Boy is Elite.
Yes, though I originally had Iter Impius there instead, but someone else sent that before I did.
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The Karnivool selection is:
C.O.T.E.
Goliath
We Are
New Day
which is an .. okay selection. I'd have sent something different :biggrin:
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Killer Queen
Somebody to Love
No clue what the second one is. That's a deep cut.
Definitely Stadler ... sending the worst songs as usual.
It's The March Of The Black Queen, and blow me. ;D I might have sent that one, but if I sent Queen - and I did not - I never would have sent Killer Queen or Somebody To Love.
(I would have sent: One Vision, Funny How Love Is, and The Prophet's Song)
I very clearly sent the worst songs of ANOTHER legendary 70's band.
I actually had a feeling it *wasn't* you :biggrin:. I would've had Innuendo, The Show Must Go On, Don't Stop Me Now, and Stone Cold Crazy on the docket.
At least you sent Burn. Not Responsible is respectable.
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The Karnivool selection is:
C.O.T.E.
Goliath
We Are
New Day
which is an .. okay selection. I'd have sent something different :biggrin:
I'm guessing romdrums for this.
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??: Spock's Beard
1: Day for Night
2: Crack the Big Sky
3: The Doorway
??: Burden of Life
1: Goddess of the River
2: The Makeshift Conqueror, Pt. 2
??: Seventh Wonder
1: The Great Escape
??: B_a_k _t_ne __e___
1: D___e
2: _ea_e __ __ee
3: ____t __ ____d _____n_
4: _am___ T_ee
??: Iced Earth
1: _____e__
2: B__t_ __ t_e ___ked
3: D_a___a
4: A __e_t__n __ _ea_en (___e _n At_en_)
Stadler: Deep Purple
1: No No No
2: Not Responsible
3: Burn
??: E___t
1: ___t_e
2: __ __ __en
3: T_ _e_e_ t_e _t__n__
Lethean: Riverside
1: Second Life Syndrome
2: Egoist Hedonist
3: Feel Like Falling
4: The Night Before
??: Riverside
5: Left Out
6: Hybrid Times
7: Driven to Destruction
??: Riverside
8: Time Travellers
9: Deprived (Irretrievably Lost Imagination)
10: Conceiving You
11: Volte-Face
??: Queen
1: ___te __een
2: The March of the Black Queen
3: Somebody to Love
HOF: Big Big Train
1: A B__ _n Da_kne__
2: _a_t T_a_n
3: _n___a___
kingshmegland: Mile Marker Zero
1: 2001
2: Digital Warrior
3: The Architect
4: Building a Machine
??: Pain of Salvation
1: WAIT
2: Iter Impius
3: Second Love
4: Beyond the Pale
Elite: Pain of Salvation
5: Rope Ends
6: King of Loss
7: Restless Boy
8: The Passing Light of Day
Puppies_On_Acid: Oceansize
1: Women Who Love Men Who Love Drugs
2: Trail of Fire
3: The Frame
4: Voorhees
??: The Black Mages
1: T___e ___ ____t ___t_e_
2: Mat__a_ _a_e
3: ____e ____ _a_
4: Dancing Mad
jingle.boy: Queensrÿche
1: I Remember Now/Anarchy-X/Revolution Calling
2: Operation: Mindcrime
3: Suite Sister Mary
4: Queen of the Reich
romdrums: Karnivool
1: C.O.T.E.
2: Goliath
3: We Are
4: New Day
Guessed letters: D A N M K B E T
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I forgot what I sent. I don't see what I think I sent though.
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King sent Mile Marker Zero
2001
Digital Warrior
The Architect
Building a Machine
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Did Lethean send one of the Riversides?
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Lets see some B's!
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I'll guess HOF sent the Beard
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Lets see some B's!
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Thank you sir (aka smart ass)
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@TAC: :rollin
How about some E’s.
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Revenge, do you enjoy electronic music? :corn :corn :corn
Yeah, I find electronic music to be very enjoyable. From this roulette, I really liked Chroma Key, and Muse had some really good electronic elements to it.
Now that is very good to know :metal :metal :metal
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I'll guess HOF sent the Beard
Nope, but I did send something Beard related.
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Revenge, do you enjoy electronic music? :corn :corn :corn
Yeah, I find electronic music to be very enjoyable. From this roulette, I really liked Chroma Key, and Muse had some really good electronic elements to it.
Now that is very good to know :metal :metal :metal
Of course the one roulette I pass on, Chroma Key wasn't banned AND they enjoyed it. :facepalm:
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Revenge, do you enjoy electronic music? :corn :corn :corn
Yeah, I find electronic music to be very enjoyable. From this roulette, I really liked Chroma Key, and Muse had some really good electronic elements to it.
Now that is very good to know :metal :metal :metal
Nah. It's actually useless for me. :lol
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It's not your Roulette you old man.
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Iced Earth
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Iced Earth
I think it's supposed to be referencing the ice age, but I keep thinking of "Iced Earth" as some kind of drink, like iced tea or something.
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Big Big Train
Don't know any of their songs though. Maybe from HOF since I know D'Virgilio is in that band.
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Is that The Black Mages?
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I hope it is, because the best I was able to think of for that one was "The Black Males," which is probably not the most politically correct thing to name a band.
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Burden of Life
Goddess of the River
The Makeshift Conquerer Pt II
I got that just from guessing “burden”
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Burden of Life
Goddess of the River
The Makeshift Conquerer Pt II
I got that just from guessing “burden”
Ffff those are good
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Burden of Life
Goddess of the River
The Makeshift Conquerer Pt II
I got that just from guessing “burden”
Ffff those are good
At least until the vocals came in.
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Feel Like Falling
The Night Before
There, that's all the Riverside. I'm guessing Evermind sent them too, maybe?
Some questionable picks in there, but I'm very happy that Revenge is forced to listen to 90% of their best album. :biggrin:
Also I see Dancing Mad for The Black Mages. ...Are we sure The Walrus isn't in this roulette? :lol
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How about a T?
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Did Lethean send one of the Riversides?
How'd you ever guess? :)
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There, that's all the Riverside. I'm guessing Evermind sent them too, maybe?
Some questionable picks in there, but I'm very happy that Revenge is forced to listen to 90% of their best album. :biggrin:
It took three roulettes for y'all to send me that many ADHD tracks. :lol
Riverside will be legal for my album roulette but that album will be banned, so... have fun, people
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I'm surprised Cyril hasn't guessed what I sent yet.... :corn
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oh, you sent Oceansize?
Women Who Love Men Who Love Drugs
Trail of Fire
The Frame
ruining the ending by sending Voorhees of all things, a song I've listened to maybe twice ever lol
this is definitely not the exact set of songs I'd have sent but Trail of Fire and The Frame are good picks
i had zero intentions of sending this band anyways :lol
puppies guess what i sent next okay
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oh also
Seventh Wonder
The Great Escape
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Did Cyril send Exist?
Because... If or When and To Sever the Strings are in there
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oh also
Seventh Wonder
The Great Escape
Yeah, she certainly winged it :mora:
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Did Cyril send Exist?
Because... If or When and To Sever the Strings are in there
yes
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??: Spock's Beard
1: Day for Night
2: Crack the Big Sky
3: The Doorway
??: Burden of Life
1: Goddess of the River
2: The Makeshift Conqueror, Pt. 2
??: Seventh Wonder
1: The Great Escape
Anguyen92: Black Stone Cherry
1: Dr__e
2: _eace __ _ree
3: ____t __ ____d C____n_
4: _am___ Tree
??: Iced Earth
1: Prophecy
2: Birth of the Wicked
3: Dracula
4: A Question of Heaven (Live in Athens)
Stadler: Deep Purple
1: No No No
2: Not Responsible
3: Burn
Cyril: Exist
1: Writhe
2: If or When
3: To Sever the Strings
Lethean: Riverside
1: Second Life Syndrome
2: Egoist Hedonist
3: Feel Like Falling
4: The Night Before
Buddyhunter1: Riverside
5: Left Out
6: Hybrid Times
7: Driven to Destruction
??: Riverside
8: Time Travellers
9: Deprived (Irretrievably Lost Imagination)
10: Conceiving You
11: Volte-Face
MoraWintersoul: Queen
1: White Queen
2: The March of the Black Queen
3: Somebody to Love
HOF: Big Big Train
1: A Boy in Darkness
2: _a_t Tra_n
3: _n___a___
kingshmegland: Mile Marker Zero
1: 2001
2: Digital Warrior
3: The Architect
4: Building a Machine
Evermind: Pain of Salvation
1: WAIT
2: Iter Impius
3: Second Love
4: Beyond the Pale
Elite: Pain of Salvation
5: Rope Ends
6: King of Loss
7: Restless Boy
8: The Passing Light of Day
Puppies_On_Acid: Oceansize
1: Women Who Love Men Who Love Drugs
2: Trail of Fire
3: The Frame
4: Voorhees
??: The Black Mages
1: T___e ___ ____t __rt_er
2: Mat__a_ Ca_e
3: __rce ___r _a_
4: Dancing Mad
jingle.boy: Queensrÿche
1: I Remember Now/Anarchy-X/Revolution Calling
2: Operation: Mindcrime
3: Suite Sister Mary
4: Queen of the Reich
romdrums: Karnivool
1: C.O.T.E.
2: Goliath
3: We Are
4: New Day
Guessed letters: D A N M K B E T R C
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Black Stone Cherry
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I want to know which of you guys sent Iter Impius though, for that would have fit perfectly in my Pain of Salvation selections.
Guess what I tried replacing it first, before settling on Restless Boy..
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Black Stone Cherry
This has got Anguyen92 written all over it
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I want to know which of you guys sent Iter Impius though, for that would have fit perfectly in my Pain of Salvation selections.
Guess what I tried replacing it first, before settling on Restless Boy..
:hifive:
I bet you also tried to send Wait too :)
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It was you? :o
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Yeah, why the shocked face? I've sent Iter Impius in quite a few roulettes and I love PoS.
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:hifive:
and yes, I did send Wait after I heard Iter Impius wasn't possible
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Elite's submissions for Pain of Salvation might've needed a couple songs to be re-sent, but it wasn't as bad as what happened with Riverside... Oooh, that was a pretty amusing situation.
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oh also
Seventh Wonder
The Great Escape
Yeah, she certainly winged it :mora:
first time you're wrong!
Both about the band and winging it. I changed my mind and sent him a band I had mentioned previously while messaging, because I got the vibe that he might like them. I'm kind of shocked no one knows it's me!!
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You’re one of the Riversides?
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You’re one of the Riversides?
She might be Queen, but like half the participants can send Riverside or PoS really :lol
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Black Stone Cherry
This has got Anguyen92 written all over it
Yep.
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Birth Of The Wicked
Dracula
A Question Of Heaven (AIA)
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Birth Of The Wicked
Dracula
A Question Of Heaven (AIA)
absolutely FANTASTIC choices whoever sent these should win also the other song is Prophecy
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The third Queen song isn't Killer Queen, it's White Queen, an absolutely fantastic song from Queen II (by far my favorite Queen record).
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A Boy In Darkness for the first BBT song also
give me the R :yarr
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The Hangman has been updated.
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So for this round I get to cross off Riverside, Pain of Salvation, Queensryche, Big Big Train, and Queen from my list of potential bands to send.
By the way those Queensryche songs are pure classic prog metal greatness! :metal
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So for this round I get to cross off Riverside, Pain of Salvation, Queensryche, Big Big Train, and Queen from my list of potential bands to send.
By the way those Queensryche songs are pure classic prog metal greatness! :metal
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Also, LIVEcrime. :biggrin:
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The third Queen song isn't Killer Queen, it's White Queen, an absolutely fantastic song from Queen II (by far my favorite Queen record).
Chad called Killer Queen... old man can't count, smh
:angel:
I love Queen II as well, and I kinda sent out a feeler to Revenge in the previous round to see how he would feel about them. I got the classic proghead case of "BoRhap is great, but the other songs I've heard didn't grab me", so I felt he could do some 70's Queen. Somebody To Love is the Rock Montreal performance, it's been helping me get up in the morning so why not put it in there.
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The third Queen song isn't Killer Queen, it's White Queen, an absolutely fantastic song from Queen II (by far my favorite Queen record).
Chad called Killer Queen... old man can't count, smh
I'm just no good at counting underscores. I simply eyeball it, since
Killer
White
White is physically longer than Killer.
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Let's get a C for the hangman and a bump for the thread!
:corn :corn :corn :corn :corn :corn :biggrin:
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The hangman has been updated.
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Last Exist song is Writhe
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did buddy send one of the riversides
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did buddy send one of the riversides
I sent the best one. ;)
Though who knows, Revenge might rate Conceiving You higher than Left Out or something fucking ridiculous like that. :lol
Also I would have sent Egoist Hedonist over Driven To Destruction if someone else hadn't beat me to it.
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did buddy send one of the riversides
I sent the best one. ;)
Though who knows, Revenge might rate Conceiving You higher than Left Out or something fucking ridiculous like that. :lol
Also I would have sent Egoist Hedonist over Driven To Destruction if someone else hadn't beat me to it.
I was considering sending Riverside at some point in this roulette and was probably going to send a song from their Voices In My Head EP, which I think is a brilliant EP. :metal
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The third Queen song isn't Killer Queen, it's White Queen, an absolutely fantastic song from Queen II (by far my favorite Queen record).
Chad called Killer Queen... old man can't count, smh
:angel:
I love Queen II as well, and I kinda sent out a feeler to Revenge in the previous round to see how he would feel about them. I got the classic proghead case of "BoRhap is great, but the other songs I've heard didn't grab me", so I felt he could do some 70's Queen. Somebody To Love is the Rock Montreal performance, it's been helping me get up in the morning so why not put it in there.
No complaints from me! That's a killer set you sent in for sure.
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Revenge might rate Conceiving You higher than Left Out or something fucking ridiculous like that. :lol
This is not the general consensus? :lol
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Let's try to clean up the remaining unguessed ones! I can't fill out a full list because I'm one of the ones who hasn't been guessed, but we have
Spock's Beard
Burden of Life
Seventh Wonder
Iced Earth
Riverside
The Black Mages
and
425
Sacul
TAC
Nekov
Luoto
twosuitsluke
I'm going to guess TAC for Iced Earth, and Nekov for Spock's, since he actually almost give it away on his impression guess:
It'd be hilarious if mine was 9. I could see mine being 3 though.
9. Pretty good! The vocals remind me of Neal Morse for some reason...
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seventh wonder is probably 425 since i remember he gave that song a 10/10 in his first roulette :corn
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Given the vocals, I'd say TAC sent Burden of Life.
Nekov and the Beard
Luke and Riverside
Luoto and Iced Earth
Sacul and the Mages
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seventh wonder is probably 425 since i remember he gave that song a 10/10 in his first roulette :corn
You got me! Decided to put it all on one epic.
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Honestly I didn't know sending a single song was within the rules. :lol
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Actually, looking back at it, it doesn't look like it is? I thought it was "send up to 4," not "between 2 and 4." But Revenge accepted it.
Revenge, if you want, I can send another Seventh Wonder song so that we're within the rules as written.
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It is thirty minutes, I think you're in the clear. It's almost as epic as Six Degrees disc 2!
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Actually, looking back at it, it doesn't look like it is? I thought it was "send up to 4," not "between 2 and 4." But Revenge accepted it.
Revenge, if you want, I can send another Seventh Wonder song so that we're within the rules as written.
I don't mind that you sent only one song, especially considering how long that song is. It's fine if people go out of the boundaries of that rule, as long as it's nothing crazy like sending me 15 songs or sending me three or more 20+ minute songs in a single submission.
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Sounds good! :tup
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Nekov: Spock's Beard
1: Day for Night
2: Crack the Big Sky
3: The Doorway
??: Burden of Life
1: Goddess of the River
2: The Makeshift Conqueror, Pt. 2
425: Seventh Wonder
1: The Great Escape
Anguyen92: Black Stone Cherry
1: Dr__e
2: _eace __ _ree
3: ____t __ ____d C____n_
4: _am___ Tree
Luoto: Iced Earth
1: Prophecy
2: Birth of the Wicked
3: Dracula
4: A Question of Heaven (Live in Athens)
Stadler: Deep Purple
1: No No No
2: Not Responsible
3: Burn
Cyril: Exist
1: Writhe
2: If or When
3: To Sever the Strings
Lethean: Riverside
1: Second Life Syndrome
2: Egoist Hedonist
3: Feel Like Falling
4: The Night Before
Buddyhunter1: Riverside
5: Left Out
6: Hybrid Times
7: Driven to Destruction
Sacul: Riverside
8: Time Travellers
9: Deprived (Irretrievably Lost Imagination)
10: Conceiving You
11: Volte-Face
MoraWintersoul: Queen
1: White Queen
2: The March of the Black Queen
3: Somebody to Love
HOF: Big Big Train
1: A Boy in Darkness
2: _a_t Tra_n
3: _n___a___
kingshmegland: Mile Marker Zero
1: 2001
2: Digital Warrior
3: The Architect
4: Building a Machine
Evermind: Pain of Salvation
1: WAIT
2: Iter Impius
3: Second Love
4: Beyond the Pale
Elite: Pain of Salvation
5: Rope Ends
6: King of Loss
7: Restless Boy
8: The Passing Light of Day
Puppies_On_Acid: Oceansize
1: Women Who Love Men Who Love Drugs
2: Trail of Fire
3: The Frame
4: Voorhees
??: The Black Mages
1: T___e ___ ____t __rt_er
2: Mat__a_ Ca_e
3: __rce ___r _a_
4: Dancing Mad
jingle.boy: Queensrÿche
1: I Remember Now/Anarchy-X/Revolution Calling
2: Operation: Mindcrime
3: Suite Sister Mary
4: Queen of the Reich
romdrums: Karnivool
1: C.O.T.E.
2: Goliath
3: We Are
4: New Day
Guessed letters: D A N M K B E T R C
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Actually, looking back at it, it doesn't look like it is? I thought it was "send up to 4," not "between 2 and 4." But Revenge accepted it.
Revenge, if you want, I can send another Seventh Wonder song so that we're within the rules as written.
I don't mind that you sent only one song, especially considering how long that song is. It's fine if people go out of the boundaries of that rule, as long as it's nothing crazy like sending me 15 songs or sending me three or more 20+ minute songs in a single submission.
I'm going to send a single Bull of Heaven epic next round then. :biggrin:
Now to decide on which one..... Maybe Aleph-Ten (ℵ₁₀) since it's a shorter one at only 11.5 days long :corn
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You should probably ban Light Of Day, Day Of Darkness now.
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Well, I'd bet next week's paycheque that TAC did NOT send Riverside, so he sent Black Mages.
Which means Luke sent Burden of life; Sacul sent Riverside
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I can't wait for everyone to make a beeline for Fates Warning next round. AND! I can't wait for you all to skip the really good songs to send.
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I can't wait for everyone to make a beeline for Fates Warning next round. AND! I can't wait for you all to skip the really good songs to send.
Don't talk about Stadler like that. :lol
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in before five separate people try to send The Light And Shade Of Things
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And all 5 absolutely should.
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Status update: I think this may be the most consistent round of the roulette so far. There's not much I really love, like Devin Townsend in R1 or East of the Wall in R2, but the vast majority of the submissions here are some really good stuff.
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i will have to agree that what i sent this round is not as good as east of the wall
but,
well,
you know how i feel about that album :lol
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I can't wait for everyone to make a beeline for Fates Warning next round.
in before five separate people try to send The Light And Shade Of Things
Too late motherfuckers!
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Status update: I think this may be the most consistent round of the roulette so far. There's not much I really love, like Devin Townsend in R1 or East of the Wall in R2, but the vast majority of the submissions here are some really good stuff.
You're clearly listening to Queensryche wrong! :lol
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I'm convinced people only enjoy EOTW ironically
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I'm convinced people only enjoy EOTW ironically
Nah, after listening to the whole The Apologist album a couple times, and Cyril's submissions countless times, I can easily say I genuinely enjoy East of the Wall (or at least, The Apologist).
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Someone please explain East Of The Wall to me. I have stanned an impressive number of obscure bands on DTF, but this man's love for East of the Wall has beat all my posts waxing lyrical about Kevin Moore's demos, Finnish metal side projects and other albums not on Spotify.
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I listened to a little bit of the apologist. Was kind of intrigued until the screaming kicked in.
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I'm convinced people only enjoy EOTW ironically
Nah, after listening to the whole The Apologist album a couple times, and Cyril's submissions countless times, I can easily say I genuinely enjoy East of the Wall (or at least, The Apologist).
I'm convinced you only say you enjoy EOTW ironically
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I can say that the only EOTW I enjoy, is Eye of the World!
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I can say that the only EOTW I enjoy, is Eye of the World!
The wind was not the beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings to the turning of the Wheel of Time. But it was a beginning.
:2metal:
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"He came like the wind, like the wind touched everything, and like the wind was gone."
:heart
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I wonder whether Parama's love for East of the Wall surpasses Lethean/Katatonia?
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I wonder whether Parama's love for East of the Wall surpasses Lethean/Katatonia?
Nothing, and I mean nothing, surpasses that. Maybe my love for Africa by Toto rivals that, at best.
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Rosanna > Africa
and it's not even close
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Rosanna > Africa
and it's not even close
Ain't even mad about this other than how you lie about how it isn't close :) :metal
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I wonder whether Parama's love for East of the Wall surpasses Lethean/Katatonia?
I dunno just how much Lethean loves Katatonia, but I'm curious if it's greater than my love for [REDACTED].
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Hydra > Rosanna > Africa
and it's not even close
FTFY
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Hydra > Rosanna > Africa
and it's not even close
FTFY
Nah fam. Not. Even. Close. Hydra ain't even in the same galactic cluster.
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I just think the apologist is a fantastic album that's all
it's like not even in the top half of heaviness in terms of "stuff i regularly listen to" anymore tbh
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Hydra > Rosanna > Africa
and it's not even close
FTFY
You challenging me to a Toto off?!
Fetch me Boris and Ajax and bring back his body!
Nah fam. Not. Even. Close. Hydra ain't even in the same galactic cluster.
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You want a Toto battle and you can't even quote properly? Bro, I will drag you to the roof! To the other end of time! Even when love has come and gone, and our hearts have moved along, I will remember you! WOO!!
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I can say that the only EOTW I enjoy, is Eye of the World!
I can live with that.
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I feel my love for The Wheel of Time may surpass Parama's love for The Apologist to be fair. I have multiple tattoos :lol
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I feel my love for The Wheel of Time may surpass Parama's love for The Apologist to be fair. I have multiple tattoos :lol
I'm not that big of a fan but I've read the whole thing and I discovered Brandon Sanderson (now here's where I'm that big of a fan) because of it so I'm very grateful for the series.
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You want a Toto battle and you can't even quote properly? Bro, I will drag you to the roof! To the other end of time! Even when love has come and gone, and our hearts have moved along, I will remember you! WOO!!
First I will kick down the walls, go straight for the heart knowing I won't hold back only to finish you off on the Spanish steps of Rome.
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You want a Toto battle and you can't even quote properly? Bro, I will drag you to the roof! To the other end of time! Even when love has come and gone, and our hearts have moved along, I will remember you! WOO!!
You're gonna need to put some more time in the gym to accomplish this. :lol
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I feel my love for The Wheel of Time may surpass Parama's love for The Apologist to be fair. I have multiple tattoos :lol
I'm not that big of a fan but I've read the whole thing and I discovered Brandon Sanderson (now here's where I'm that big of a fan) because of it so I'm very grateful for the series.
I read all of these books in high school up until whatever the most recent one was at the time. I was pretty obsessed for a while and it kind of lined up with my initially obsession with Dream Theater actually. I remember really having to fight to get through the last few books I read though. Then Jordan died and I never finished the series. Haven’t done much of any sort of reading outside of school since then. I think I did reread The Eye of The World at one point since then. The first 5 books or so were pretty intense and cool, and then it just seemed like he had no real plan for the series after that.
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You want a Toto battle and you can't even quote properly? Bro, I will drag you to the roof! To the other end of time! Even when love has come and gone, and our hearts have moved along, I will remember you! WOO!!
First I will kick down the walls, go straight for the heart knowing I won't hold back only to finish you off on the Spanish steps of Rome.
But I could be good for you!
You want a Toto battle and you can't even quote properly? Bro, I will drag you to the roof! To the other end of time! Even when love has come and gone, and our hearts have moved along, I will remember you! WOO!!
You're gonna need to put some more time in the gym to accomplish this. :lol
I'm gonna need to renew the freaking membership first! :lol
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You want a Toto battle and you can't even quote properly? Bro, I will drag you to the roof! To the other end of time! Even when love has come and gone, and our hearts have moved along, I will remember you! WOO!!
First I will kick down the walls, go straight for the heart knowing I won't hold back only to finish you off on the Spanish steps of Rome.
Oh shit, looks like we got caught in the balance of a Toto throwdown, and I'm hooked. There might be no end in sight!
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You want a Toto battle and you can't even quote properly? Bro, I will drag you to the roof! To the other end of time! Even when love has come and gone, and our hearts have moved along, I will remember you! WOO!!
First I will kick down the walls, go straight for the heart knowing I won't hold back only to finish you off on the Spanish steps of Rome.
But I could be good for you!
You want a Toto battle and you can't even quote properly? Bro, I will drag you to the roof! To the other end of time! Even when love has come and gone, and our hearts have moved along, I will remember you! WOO!!
You're gonna need to put some more time in the gym to accomplish this. :lol
I'm gonna need to renew the freaking membership first! :lol
:rollin :rollin
OMG, this thread just turned into pure gold!
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You want a Toto battle and you can't even quote properly? Bro, I will drag you to the roof! To the other end of time! Even when love has come and gone, and our hearts have moved along, I will remember you! WOO!!
First I will kick down the walls, go straight for the heart knowing I won't hold back only to finish you off on the Spanish steps of Rome.
Oh shit, looks like we got caught in the balance of a Toto throwdown, and I'm hooked. There might be no end in sight!
Let it go! There's nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do to stop us.
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As sure as Kilimanjaro rises like Olympus above the Serangetti, this is entertaining as hell.
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As sure as Kilimanjaro rises like Olympus above the Serangetti, this is entertaining as hell.
For real. I can't stop loving this. :metal
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You want a Toto battle and you can't even quote properly? Bro, I will drag you to the roof! To the other end of time! Even when love has come and gone, and our hearts have moved along, I will remember you! WOO!!
You're gonna need to put some more time in the gym to accomplish this. :lol
I oughta drag him and you to the roof bub!
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You want a Toto battle and you can't even quote properly? Bro, I will drag you to the roof! To the other end of time! Even when love has come and gone, and our hearts have moved along, I will remember you! WOO!!
First I will kick down the walls, go straight for the heart knowing I won't hold back only to finish you off on the Spanish steps of Rome.
Oh shit, looks like we got caught in the balance of a Toto throwdown, and I'm hooked. There might be no end in sight!
Let it go! There's nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do to stop us.
100 men could stop you, but not King. King is Friar Tuck from Rocket Robin Hood - https://youtu.be/y7frmyVLROQ?t=10
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I feel my love for The Wheel of Time may surpass Parama's love for The Apologist to be fair. I have multiple tattoos :lol
I'm not that big of a fan but I've read the whole thing and I discovered Brandon Sanderson (now here's where I'm that big of a fan) because of it so I'm very grateful for the series.
The only Sanderson I've read is the final three WoT books. It's a shame really, as much as I appreciate him finishing off the series,
I just found his writing inferior to Jordan's, and therefore quite jarring. There were just certain characters *cough* Mat, that he just couldn't write in Jordan's style (no easy task). The last three books are so bittersweet because of that.
I was talking to friend of mine a few weeks ago actually, the one who got me into WoT 17 years ago, and he was raving about Sanderson. I need to get over my issues with Sanderson and read books that were all 100% him.
I'll just finish my current reread of WoT, before the TV series drops, first...
Honest
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I'm really mad about these Toto references. There's nothing bad about our jokes! I'm giving you the only jokes I have :lol
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I'm really mad about these Toto references. There's nothing bad about our jokes! I'm giving you the only jokes I have :lol
Well Toto is a joke..
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Well... this was certainly an interesting thing to wake up to!
I'll leave you guys to that battle. I don't want to get dragged into the brawl, especially with my lack of knowledge on Toto.
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I'm really mad about these Toto references. There's nothing bad about our jokes! I'm giving you the only jokes I have :lol
Well Toto is a joke..
I'll give you a t minute head start.
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I'm really mad about these Toto references. There's nothing bad about our jokes! I'm giving you the only jokes I have :lol
Well Toto is a joke..
I'll give you a t minute head start.
Yeah, just think of how far I'd get in t fucking minutes! :lol
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T fucking minutes? You're scared shitless I see. Lol
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I'm really mad about these Toto references. There's nothing bad about our jokes! I'm giving you the only jokes I have :lol
Well Toto is a joke..
Now hold the line here, Mr. Friendly.
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That's the one toto pun I get. :lol
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That's the one toto pun I get. :lol
TAC isn't always on time, but when he is, it's to bash Toto and Winger.
Oh, and Power Windows.... :tdwn
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Well... this was certainly an interesting thing to wake up to!
I'll leave you guys to that battle. I don't want to get dragged into the brawl, especially with my lack of knowledge on Toto.
Guess we know what Walrus is sending Round 4.
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Here's a picture of the Walruss clean shaven with Toto.
(https://cdn.britannica.com/53/188353-050-B83CEAD5/Judy-Garland-Dorothy-Gale-The-Wizard-of.jpg)
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I wonder whether Parama's love for East of the Wall surpasses Lethean/Katatonia?
I dunno just how much Lethean loves Katatonia, but I'm curious if it's greater than my love for [REDACTED].
The redacted isn't just Dream Theater? :)
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I wonder whether Parama's love for East of the Wall surpasses Lethean/Katatonia?
I dunno just how much Lethean loves Katatonia, but I'm curious if it's greater than my love for [REDACTED].
The redacted isn't just Dream Theater? :)
Nah, there's no way I have the greatest amount of love for Dream Theater on a Dream Theater forum. I do love Dream Theater a lot, but there's gotta be someone who loves them more than I do. I might love the last two minutes of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence more than anyone else here, though...
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I'll fight you on that one Revenge
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I wonder whether Parama's love for East of the Wall surpasses Lethean/Katatonia?
I dunno just how much Lethean loves Katatonia, but I'm curious if it's greater than my love for [REDACTED].
The redacted isn't just Dream Theater? :)
Nah, there's no way I have the greatest amount of love for Dream Theater on a Dream Theater forum. I do love Dream Theater a lot, but there's gotta be someone who loves them more than I do. I might love the last two minutes of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence more than anyone else here, though...
Well, I didn't mean it like that. Just that DT's your favorite band, so presumably you're not going to love another band more so it would only make sense for the redacted band to be DT.
(All minutes of Six Degrees are great though; that album is pretty much perfect imo.)
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I'll fight you on that one Revenge
Oh, well that's fine by me, I'm just glad I found someone else who loves that ending as well.
Nah, there's no way I have the greatest amount of love for Dream Theater on a Dream Theater forum. I do love Dream Theater a lot, but there's gotta be someone who loves them more than I do. I might love the last two minutes of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence more than anyone else here, though...
Well, I didn't mean it like that. Just that DT's your favorite band, so presumably you're not going to love another band more so it would only make sense for the redacted band to be DT.
(All minutes of Six Degrees are great though; that album is pretty much perfect imo.)
Ahhh, I see what you mean now. But yes, even though Dream Theater is my favorite band, there is something else out that I love, with its quality about equal to Dream Theater. Ultimately, Dream Theater wins between the two solely because A Change of Seasons and Octavarium are my Top 2 favorite songs ever made. To choose my favorite song ever made that isn't Dream Theater or [REDACTED], I'd probably go with either LTE's "When the Water Breaks" or Porcupine Tree's "Anesthetize"... neither of which would even make my Top 10.
Oh, and yes, I agree that Six Degrees is pretty much a perfect album. The only song on there that isn't a 10/10 for me is The Great Debate, but that song's a 9.75/10, which by my method of ratings is the closest you can get to a 10/10 without being a 10/10.
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Redacted = Haken :corn
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Haken?
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Ok Puppies beat me to it. :P
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Redacted = Haken :corn
Haken?
Nope (although I certainly love Haken as well). [REDACTED] is something I've never talked about before on this forum. I mean, I guess there's that secret message I hid somewhere, but considering how fast people here can complete a Hangman, they'll easily figure out a secret message if they know about it.
Oh, wait, did I say that out loud...?
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Comin up on two weeks since Round 2 finished. Good thing we've had an election to keep us occupied. Now that that is over ( :biggrin:) all attention comes back here.
(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Freplygif.net%2Fi%2F1511.gif&hash=96518449164c363f47c031a625680d25b9677720)
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Yeah, I think I've listened to the submissions enough to get around to scoring the songs now.
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I think Judge Marilyn Milian would kick Judge Judy's ass. ;) :) :)
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I think Judge Marilyn Milian would kick Judge Judy's ass. ;) :) :)
Well, that's just common sense.
Wait, wut?
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I think Judge Marilyn Milian would kick Judge Judy's ass. ;) :) :)
Who?
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I think Judge Marilyn Milian would kick Judge Judy's ass. ;) :) :)
Who?
TAC have you ever heard of this obscure website called Google?
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I think Judge Marilyn Milian would kick Judge Judy's ass. ;) :) :)
Who?
TAC have you ever heard of this obscure website called Google?
Walrus, you ever heard of this obscure concept of answering a buddy’s question?
Marylyn Millian sounds like a pornster. I’m not googling that! :lol
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I answered your question. With a question! :biggrin:
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Comin up on two weeks since Round 2 finished.[/img]
I mean compared to Dacul's and Heretic's roulettes even with this pace this is the fast one, lol
425's job to change that?
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Comin up on two weeks since Round 2 finished.[/img]
I mean compared to Dacul's and Heretic's roulettes even with this pace this is the fast one, lol
425's job to change that?
I was trying to think who had more music to listen to for their roulette. I’m thinking it’s gotta be 425 with 12 full albums (one of which is a double), but then Revenge has a ton of participants sending him probably half an album’s worth of music sometimes. I admire the bravery and ambition of both Revenge and 425.
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Comin up on two weeks since Round 2 finished.[/img]
I mean compared to Dacul's and Heretic's roulettes even with this pace this is the fast one, lol
425's job to change that?
I was trying to think who had more music to listen to for their roulette. I’m thinking it’s gotta be 425 with 12 full albums (one of which is a double), but then Revenge has a ton of participants sending him probably half an album’s worth of music sometimes. I admire the bravery and ambition of both Revenge and 425.
I've mentioned it before, but I had no idea I'd get this many participants and this many songs per round. I haven't calculated how long each round is, but I think this might be the longest one so far. It's definitely a lot of music to listen to, but I don't mind, especially after I did away with that old schedule... The roulette would've been complete almost a week ago if I had, but I don't know how much I would've enjoyed myself had I forced myself to get the whole thing done in five weeks. That being said, I can understand that going over two weeks can be a rather lengthy wait, so I do apologize for the long stretches of time between the first impressions and the results.
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Comin up on two weeks since Round 2 finished.[/img]
I mean compared to Dacul's and Heretic's roulettes even with this pace this is the fast one, lol
425's job to change that?
Literally no one should be surprised that Sacul's is running slow.
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I think Judge Marilyn Milian would kick Judge Judy's ass. ;) :) :)
Who?
TAC have you ever heard of this obscure website called Google?
Walrus, you ever heard of this obscure concept of answering a buddy’s question?
Marylyn Millian sounds like a pornster. I’m not googling that! :lol
No! That's Marilyn Chambers. I'm not talking about her, or the rock star (that's Marilyn Manson). I'm talking about the current judge on The People's Court (and a secret crush of Stadler, that is not so secret now).
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Behind the Tim Door.
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Status update: I'm scoring all the songs now. I'm approaching it a little differently this time; I'm scoring every song there is before I get to typing up the results. I think it'll be more efficient that way.
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I don't know who's winning this one, but the roulette itself surely gets the prize for the slowest one ever...
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I don't know who's winning this one, but the roulette itself surely gets the prize for the slowest one ever...
I'm almost done scoring! The first half of the results should hopefully be out sometime today.
I'm not sure what else to say regarding the delays, besides that procrastination is in my genes. I'm sorry I've made everyone wait about a month for this, I really am...
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To be fair, you may have more music to score, per round, than any other roulette! I don't envy you that, and for what it's worth I don't mind the wait so don't sweat it :biggrin:
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sent
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Man you will be waiting for the results for the next round. :lol
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Status update: I'm writing the first half of reviews , however I'm going to be busy with something else soon, so I'm going to have to finish up and publish the results tomorrow.
So, how many times have I had to delay something in this roulette due to my inaccurate foresight? On second thought, I probably don't want to know...
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The pace is fine with me. I've been so busy with life, it makes it easier to keep up :lol
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Here's eight results.
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Nekov
Spock’s Beard
First impression: Pretty good! The vocals remind me of Neal Morse for some reason…
Final review: Just to clarify, I already knew Neal Morse did vocals for Spock’s Beard before moving on to his solo stuff and Transatlantic; I just wanted to see how quickly people would put two and two together when this band was revealed in the Hangman. Anyway, I can now see why people compare Transatlantic to Neal Morse’s stuff in general; this reminds me a lot of Transatlantic, and it’s not just because of the vocalist. The intro to “Day For Night”, when the whole band comes in, feels just like the kind of intro a Transatlantic epic would have. Speaking of Day For Night, this is a very enjoyable song! Aside from the intro, the standouts are the really fun chorus, the instrumental section in the middle of the song, and the layered vocals after the instrumental section that start the last chorus. “Crack the Big Sky” is another enjoyable song, with the standout moment clearly being the part halfway through the song where the saxophone comes in. It’s so unexpected and strange, but I absolutely love it. I was bound to like this since I like Transatlantic so much, but this band does have its own sort of aesthetic to it. I want to check out more of this band for sure.
Day For Night - 8.75/10
Crack the Big Sky - 8.75/10
The Doorway - 8/10
Roulette score: 8.5
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Anguyen92
Black Stone Cherry
First impression: It's similar to Switchfoot, but a little less interesting.
Final review: Much like Switchfoot, I would describe Black Stone Cherry as a “casual” band. They’re also comparable to KISS for me, in that I can understand why some might really enjoy the band, but they’re just not for me. In the case of this band, though, there’s generally something interesting enough in each song for me to think, “yeah, it’s worth a 7”. That being said, it’s nothing all that exciting; Switchfoot wasn’t particularly exciting for me either, but I found the music from them to be stronger than this band. If I had to talk about a song, it’d be “Ghost Of Floyd Collins”. It’s probably my favorite of these four, mainly because I find it slightly amusing for whatever reason. It starts with some spoken words (which is unusual to me; usually spoken-word sections happen near or at the end of a song), where a guy talks about a guy named Floyd Collins who got trapped in a cave and died. Then when the music starts proper, the lyrics talk about the guy’s death and it seems to be implied that his name and story eventually started being used for entertainment. Lyrics aside, the music is a little stronger than the other songs I heard. Black Stone Cherry is about what I expect from this particular style of rock, and while I’m not particularly impressed by them, I wouldn’t mind giving more bands like this a shot. I just hope there’s a more exciting and interesting band in the vein of something like this band.
Drive - 7/10
Peace Is Free - 7/10
Ghost Of Floyd Collins - 7.25/10
Family Tree - 7/10
Roulette score: 7.1
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Luoto
Iced Earth
First impression: It's alright. Reminds me a lot of Iron Maiden.
Final review: Yeah, just about everything here yells “Iron Maiden”. The music, the vocals, even the album art is very similar to Iron Maiden. So, if I were to compare Iced Earth to Iron Maiden, I’d say Iron Maiden is better. However, Iced Earth is good as well, and despite the massive Iron Maiden influence on display here, I think they have their own identity. “Birth of the Wicked” is definitely a song in the style of Iron Maiden, and it’s the clearest example I have of how similar it is. I will say, though, I do prefer this song and “Prophecy” a little over their more unique-sounding songs. “Dracula” is good once it really gets going, but the intro feels a bit awkward and out-of-place. “A Question of Heaven” is good too, but while it has less of the Iron Maiden influence overall, it’s a bit underwhelming. It’s good that this band does have their own unique identity, but I think the more the Iron Maiden influence is there in a song, the more I enjoy it.
Prophecy - 7.75/10
Birth of the Wicked - 8/10
Dracula - 7.75/10
A Question of Heaven - 7.5/10
Roulette score: 7.8
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Cyril
Exist
First impression: The vocals can be kind of... ugly... at times, but instrumentally it's really interesting.
Final review: The Holy Guide of the 9/10 does it again! Well, I guess there aren’t any songs I’d rate a 9/10 or higher, but this is nonetheless some very good music. Exist does remind me a bit of East of the Wall, in that there’s a lot of harsh vocals, but the instrumental stuff is melodic. However, during vocal sections, the music is more aggressive than in The Apologist. So, in a way, it’s kind of a fusion of BTBAM and East of the Wall… and that sounds like a good fusion to me. The vocals aren’t particularly strong, but they’ve grown on me and even the harsh vocals have some really satisfying moments. There’s a couple slightly questionable decisions made, but they don’t really detract from my enjoyment of the songs; for example, in the first few seconds of “Writhe” the sound keeps cutting off, like a CD skipping. I thought it was the video lagging slightly the first time I heard it. Also, in “To Sever the Strings”, the song transitions into a quieter section about a minute in by making it sound like the song’s fading out and ending. I feel like there could’ve been a better way to transition to that quieter part, but like I said, it doesn’t make me like the song any less. It’s kind of hard to describe what it is that I like about each song specifically, all I can say is that I really like the style of aggressive vocals and melodic instrumentals. I guess that’d be melodic death metal? Or maybe I’ll just call it “Cyril music” or something to define it more easily. Either way, this is some good stuff right here.
Writhe - 8.5/10
If or When - 8.5/10
To Sever the Strings - 8.25/10
Roulette score: 8.4
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MoraWintersoul
Queen
First impression: I expected the vocals to be the strong point, but I think I like the instrumental stuff more.
Final review: Queen is a band I’ve heard some songs from before, and as Mora mentioned earlier in the thread, I think Bohemian Rhapsody is very good, but the other songs I’ve heard from them were just… okay. The songs I was sent in this roulette are definitely an improvement, though I wouldn’t say they’re as good as Bohemian Rhapsody. In my first impression, I said I ended up liking the instrumentation more than the vocals, but now I think it’s more accurate to say that Queen is at their best when the vocals and music fit together perfectly. In “The March of the Black Queen”, the vocals are very good from a technical standpoint, but at times, how it sounds is… a little less than pleasant. The music, however, is consistently good, so it does make up for the slightly awkward vocals. This is also an issue with “Somebody to Love”, which part of me thinks has a little too much singing, in addition to the singing not sounding the greatest. Although the “too much singing” complaint could just be a result of listening to a live version, and not the studio recording. Now, an example of a Queen song where it all comes together well is “White Queen”. It’s a very nice ballad, and the vocals are much more pleasing to listen to compared to the other two songs. Combined with the pretty instrumentation, it makes a very good atmosphere. I’m not sure how much I’d be interested in checking out more songs from Queen, but this was absolutely worth giving a shot.
White Queen - 8.25/10
The March of the Black Queen - 8/10
Somebody to Love - 7.5/10
Roulette score: 7.9
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kingshmegland
Mile Marker Zero
First impression: Better than I was expecting, although I don't think I like the sampling much.
Final review: This is one of the biggest surprises for me of this whole roulette so far. I wasn’t expecting it to be mediocre or anything, but this is definitely one of the better bands I’ve been sent in Round 3. The songs have a sort of futuristic aesthetic, which kinda makes sense as the songs that were sent come from an album about artificial intelligence. Despite the futuristic aesthetic, though, this band sounds very timeless. I thought this was released in the early-mid 2000s, so I was surprised to find out it came out in 2018! Moving on to the songs individually, the two highlights are the vocals and the keyboards. The singing is very good and fits very well with the style of music they go for, and the keyboards basically always contribute something cool to the song. My favorite is “The Architect”, which while not nearly as good as Haken’s “song of the same name, it’s still a really great song. I love the energy, and that “sa-a-ane” chorus is so GOOD. There’s one small drawback, and that’s the sampling at the end. It fits in with the subject matter and all, but I do think I’d like it just a little more without it. “Building a Machine” is another one of my favorites. Most of the song is great; I love the contrast between the calmer electronic verses and the guitar-driven chorus. That being said, the middle section has more of that sampling that I don’t think needs to be there, but I think it also kind of kills the energy of the song. But whatever, the rest of the song is great. As I said, this band was a big surprise for me. I want to listen to the rest of this album and see how else it can impress me (hopefully without even more sampling, but either way, I’m interested).
2001 - 8.25/10
Digital Warrior - 8.5/10
The Architect - 8.75/10
Building a Machine - 8.5/10
Roulette score: 8.5
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Lethean / Buddyhunter1 / Sacul
Riverside
First impression: Some interesting stuff here, I think I can see what the hype is about.
Final review: This is another one of those bands that I’ve heard about quite a bit on here and was expecting to be sent at some point in the roulette. And, well, I was certainly sent some Riverside songs. This band reminds me a little bit of Porcupine Tree for some reason, though I’m not exactly sure why. I guess it’s because some of their songs are a bit mellow? Anyway, through all 11 songs I listened to, I can say that Riverside is very good. Aside from one song, there isn’t anything that’s absolutely fantastic, but there’s a lot of great material here. To avoid having this writeup take a long time to do, I’ll keep things simple and talk about my favorite song from each submission. Starting with Lethean’s submission, the best song (as well as the best one overall) is “Second Life Syndrome”. It’s very atmospheric, and I guess it does have that kind of magic that Porcupine Tree has in songs like Arriving Somewhere But Not Here. The first third of it is the most upbeat section of the song, though it has this uneasy feeling to it. The second third is a lot more mellow, and contains a really good vocal performance. There’s also some lyrics that I keep mishearing as... something else... but that doesn’t affect my enjoyment of the song. Then the last section of the song contains some really beautiful guitar work, among other things. I think this song will grow on me even more, the more I listen to it, it’s so good… Moving on to the best song Buddyhunter1 sent, that would be “Driven to Destruction”. In contrast to Second Life Syndrome, this song is fiery and upbeat, focusing more on the guitar and bass. Of course, though, there’s some great input from the keyboards, especially with the somewhat subtle usage of the piano.Just a greatly satisfying song all around. And lastly, the best song Sacul sent was “Volte-Face”. Compared to Second Life Syndrome, it’s a lot more upbeat, though it does go through a couple twists and turns, sometimes getting a little more slow-paced (though it still has a lot more energy than Second Life Syndrome). The vocals are also more diverse, with the singing sometimes getting a little aggressive. Taking all 11 songs into consideration, I am quite impressed with Riverside and I will be checking out more of their music.
Second Life Syndrome - 9.25/10
Egoist Hedonist - 8.75/10
Feel Like Falling - 8.5/10
The Night Before - 8.25/10
Left Out - 8.75/10
Hybrid Times - 8.5/10
Driven to Destruction - 9/10
Time Travelers - 8.25/10
Deprived (Irretrievably Lost Imagination) - 8/10
Conceiving You - 8.5/10
Volte-Face - 8.5/10
Lethean’s roulette score: 8.7
Buddyhunter1’s roulette score: 8.8
Sacul’s roulette score: 8.3
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twosuitsluke
The Black Mages
First impression: Some may be confused to find out that this is one of my favorite submissions so far.
Final review: In hindsight, maybe “surprised” would’ve been a better word… Well, anyway, some context before I get into this one: I play a lot of video games, and I’ve grown to love a lot of video game soundtracks. So, a band that does prog-metal covers of video game music sounds appealing to me. Here’s the interesting thing, though… Aside from a couple games, I don’t really play any of the Final Fantasy games, so I’m actually not familiar with three of the four tracks I was sent. But even without knowing the source material, I think all of these songs are great! “Those Who Fight Further” is the one track I recognize, and compared to the original song, it doesn’t do anything drastically different (aside from a cowbell that works surprisingly well). Very well done, and it’s better than the original, I’d say. “Matoyas Cave” is a more relaxing track, with some nice acoustic guitar. There’s a keyboard solo that almost comes out of nowhere, but it’s easily the best part. And then there’s “Dancing Mad”... Wow. So much grandeur, it’s amazing music all around. This is on par with some of the greater tracks from the Xenoblade series. And regarding this roulette, it’s up there with Second Life Syndrome and Twisted Mind. Fantastic. Simply fantastic. I have to see what else these guys have done, I can only imagine they’ve done more brilliant covers.
Those Who Fight Further - 8.75/10
Matoyas Cave - 9/10
Force Your Way - 8.5/10
Dancing Mad - 9.5/10
Roulette score: 8.9
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Well, there we go. The next half of the results should be out very soon. Wait another day, wait another night...
...but hopefully not another week.
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it's Pandacore™ ftr
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it's Pandacore™ ftr
I will make sure to remember that!
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Holy shit, I didn't tank it with The Black Mages :rollin
So glad you liked them. That's a grand total of 1 people I've converted here. Dancing Mad was risky as fuck, as it is a slow build and I really started to second guess myself after sending. The solo though... THE SOLO?!?! It's probably my favourite guitar solo of all time. I guess you agree.
They only did three albums but it's all gold. Nobuo also went on to help do the Distant Worlds albums, which are full orchestral covers of FF songs. Definitely check the first two out, at least.
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Glad you like MMZ! definitely check out the full album.
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Holy shit, I didn't tank it with The Black Mages :rollin
So glad you liked them. That's a grand total of 1 people I've converted here. Dancing Mad was risky as fuck, as it is a slow build and I really started to second guess myself after sending. The solo though... THE SOLO?!?! It's probably my favourite guitar solo of all time. I guess you agree.
They only did three albums but it's all gold. Nobuo also went on to help do the Distant Worlds albums, which are full orchestral covers of FF songs. Definitely check the first two out, at least.
I like the first half of Dancing Mad better than the second half. As for the guitar solo, I've heard better ones, but this one is still pretty good!
And I'm definitely going to check out the albums from these guys, this is some great stuff.
Glad you like MMZ! definitely check out the full album.
I plan on doing so! I'm very interested in what else that album has to offer.
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I actually screen shot your review and sent it to Dave the singer. I talk to him all the time. Hell, the whole band knows the wife and I.
They are humble guys. Great to talk to.
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Lethean’s roulette score: 8.7
Buddyhunter1’s roulette score: 8.8
Sacul’s roulette score: 8.3
Suck it! :metal :metal :metal
As is par for the course, my least favorite song of the bunch I send gets the highest score. :lol It's still a great tune of course, I just like Egoist Hedonist, Left Out and Hybrid Times more.
Dancing Mad is awesome, though I'm listening to this version of it now and it feels like a bit of a missed opportunity; it barely sounds any different than the SNES original and some of the instruments sound flat-out worse somehow... Seriously, how does a SNES-sampled church organ sound better than what ended up on here? ???
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real excited for Revenge to check out ADHD and realize there's 1 song and about 5 minutes of the album he hasn't already heard :lol
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Lethean’s roulette score: 8.7
Buddyhunter1’s roulette score: 8.8
Sacul’s roulette score: 8.3
Suck it! :metal :metal :metal
As is par for the course, my least favorite song of the bunch I send gets the highest score. :lol It's still a great tune of course, I just like Egoist Hedonist, Left Out and Hybrid Times more.
Dancing Mad is awesome, though I'm listening to this version of it now and it feels like a bit of a missed opportunity; it barely sounds any different than the SNES original and some of the instruments sound flat-out worse somehow... Seriously, how does a SNES-sampled church organ sound better than what ended up on here? ???
Yeah but Second Life Syndrome took it's rightful place as the best song. :)
I love all of the songs that were sent - mine, yours, and Sacul's. I don't think there's such a thing as a bad Riverside song. Glad you enjoyed them Revenge, and I do think they're a band that grows on you over time, so you could indeed wind up liking them even more.
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real excited for Revenge to check out ADHD and realize there's 1 song and about 5 minutes of the album he hasn't already heard :lol
:tup We did God's work.
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I actually screen shot your review and sent it to Dave the singer. I talk to him all the time. Hell, the whole band knows the wife and I.
They are humble guys. Great to talk to.
That's cool! I hope he likes my review.
Lethean’s roulette score: 8.7
Buddyhunter1’s roulette score: 8.8
Sacul’s roulette score: 8.3
Suck it! :metal :metal :metal
As is par for the course, my least favorite song of the bunch I send gets the highest score. :lol It's still a great tune of course, I just like Egoist Hedonist, Left Out and Hybrid Times more.
Dancing Mad is awesome, though I'm listening to this version of it now and it feels like a bit of a missed opportunity; it barely sounds any different than the SNES original and some of the instruments sound flat-out worse somehow... Seriously, how does a SNES-sampled church organ sound better than what ended up on here? ???
Yeah, all those songs are great.
I find your comment about Dancing Mad rather interesting... I'll have to listen to the original version and see what it's like!
real excited for Revenge to check out ADHD and realize there's 1 song and about 5 minutes of the album he hasn't already heard :lol
Yep, I recently checked out the track listings for some of Riverside's albums and noticed I'd already listened to 4 out of the 5 songs on there. Should be interesting to listen to them in order, though!
Lethean’s roulette score: 8.7
Buddyhunter1’s roulette score: 8.8
Sacul’s roulette score: 8.3
Suck it! :metal :metal :metal
As is par for the course, my least favorite song of the bunch I send gets the highest score. :lol It's still a great tune of course, I just like Egoist Hedonist, Left Out and Hybrid Times more.
Yeah but Second Life Syndrome took it's rightful place as the best song. :)
I love all of the songs that were sent - mine, yours, and Sacul's. I don't think there's such a thing as a bad Riverside song. Glad you enjoyed them Revenge, and I do think they're a band that grows on you over time, so you could indeed wind up liking them even more.
No such thing as a bad Riverside song? I'll take your word for it!
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All right, I really got to stop with the Active Rock/Modern radio bands in this roulette. This is clearly not working out.
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No such thing as a bad Riverside song? I'll take your word for it!
Artificial Smile :P
Sent for the next round! Your reaction to one of the bands here inspired me. :biggrin:
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I think Artificial Smile is awesome.
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On another note, regarding this part.
Lyrics aside, the music is a little stronger than the other songs I heard. Black Stone Cherry is about what I expect from this particular style of rock, and while I’m not particularly impressed by them, I wouldn’t mind giving more bands like this a shot. I just hope there’s a more exciting and interesting band in the vein of something like this band.
I'm going to be honest as a person that has listened to this modern rock format in the last 10 years or so. There probably isn't. The other exciting ones, that other people might find exciting, in my opinion, are already on your banned list (A7X and Ghost) and ones that I already mentioned (Alter Bridge). Other bands in that format are either really generic or you probably won't find interesting.
Anywho, I've submitted round 4. Don't worry. None of the songs I've submitted are from 2000-onwards. I'm shocked as well.
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On another note, regarding this part.
Lyrics aside, the music is a little stronger than the other songs I heard. Black Stone Cherry is about what I expect from this particular style of rock, and while I’m not particularly impressed by them, I wouldn’t mind giving more bands like this a shot. I just hope there’s a more exciting and interesting band in the vein of something like this band.
I'm going to be honest as a person that has listened to this modern rock format in the last 10 years or so. There probably isn't. The other exciting ones, that other people might find exciting, in my opinion, are already on your banned list (A7X and Ghost) and ones that I already mentioned (Alter Bridge). Other bands in that format are either really generic or you probably won't find interesting.
Anywho, I've submitted round 4. Don't worry. None of the songs I've submitted are from 2000-onwards. I'm shocked as well.
I kinda figured that might be the case... I just wanted to be optimistic. But it's alright, I didn't mind checking out bands like Switchfoot and Black Stone Cherry. Even if I didn't love them, I did find something to like about them, and if nothing else I certainly feel like I'm expanding my horizons.
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Nice, I'll take it! I went with a pretty varied choice to show you different sides of the band so you can explore the ones that resonate the most with you.
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Hhhhhhh, I tried :lol
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Hhhhhhh, I tried :lol
Kids these days!
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Status update: I will absolutely be getting these out as soon as I can, but I'm sort of having writer's block with some of these results... I know how I feel about the music, and I more or less know what I want to say about it, but I'm just having a difficult time putting it into words... But I will do my best to avoid having to make more jokes about how the Pain of Salvation song "Wait" describes my roulette.
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Hhhhhhh, I tried :lol
It was a hell of an effort!
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https://youtu.be/qxQAmaZ7dRk (https://youtu.be/qxQAmaZ7dRk)
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I'm not gonna lie, I was expecting a better result, but I'll take it. I'm surprised The Doorway is the one you liked the least of the three.
I'll send something soon for round 4
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The overall score is fair enough, though I'm not sure if I'm ok with one of the greatest heavy metal songs ever written getting the lowest score ;)
Sent for round 4.
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Hhhhhhh, I tried :lol
Kids these days!
It was a hell of an effort!
Hey, I'd say you did well, too! I didn't love Queen, but I certainly enjoyed them. But I guess kids these days like East of the Wall more than Queen. :lol
I'm not gonna lie, I was expecting a better result, but I'll take it. I'm surprised The Doorway is the one you liked the least of the three.
Yeah, I had a feeling The Doorway was considered one of their greater songs, but while I do enjoy it, I don't like it quite as much as Day For Night and Crack the Big Sky.
The overall score is fair enough, though I'm not sure if I'm ok with one of the greatest heavy metal songs ever written getting the lowest score ;)
It's always interesting to see just how diverse people's taste in music can be. This is just one example of many, but I think that song is good but not great. It's always nice to hear someone think so highly of certain songs.
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Status update: Halfway through the second half of the writeups, so the rest should hopefully come out tomorrow.
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The second half of the results.
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jingle.boy
Queensrÿche
First impression: Pretty good stuff! This might grow on me a lot.
Final review: So despite what my first impression implied, I’m not sure if Queensrÿche has grown on me all that much. But it’s strange, this feels like a band I should have grown to really enjoy. Some of the music here vaguely reminds me of When Dream and Day Unite, which is an album I’ve grown to really enjoy. I think perhaps the reason that it hasn’t all clicked with me could do with the fact that all the songs I was sent are live recordings. Now, I have absolutely no problem with being sent live recordings, but I think sometimes they can be too echoey, and as such I feel like there might be details I’m missing out on as a result of all the live noise, whether it’s the echo or the audience (or both). I think this might be the case with Operation: LIVEcrime (plus the live version of Queen of the Reich). But with what I’ve been given, I can at least say that I enjoyed this band. The opening tracks of Operation: Mindcrime plus “Revolution Calling” is a great combo of songs. Revolution Calling has this anthemic vibe and almost has a sense of grandeur to it. “Operation: Mindcrime” follows with a similar style, though I find it a bit less memorable. “Suite Sister Mary” is an interesting and climactic-sounding track. It’s very dramatic, especially with the ominous female chanting towards the end. But while those songs are all pretty good, to be honest… I think my favorite song here is “Queen of the Reich”. I can definitely hear its influence on When Dream and Day Unite, and in general it’s enjoyable to listen to from start to finish. While I might not have seemed so excited about the Operation: LIVEcrime, I definitely want to listen to the original studio version. If nothing else, the story seems very interesting (even though I don’t have much of an idea as to what’s going on, aside from a guy (presumably the main character) needing to kill someone named Mary), and I think the music does a great job of making the story feel exciting and dramatic. So while Queensrÿche hasn’t exactly clicked with me yet, I’ve got a good feeling that they will for me, given time.
As a side note, I watched the live videos that you sent, jingle.boy. They’re alright, but nothing special to me. I do find it cool, though, that they made an animation for I Remember Now.
I Remember Now/Anarchy-X/Revolution Calling - 8/10
Operation: Mindcrime - 7.75/10
Suite Sister Mary - 8.25/10
Queen of the Reich - 8.25/10
Roulette score: 8.1
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romdrums
Karnivool
First impression: They're good, but I wasn't expecting them to sound so... normal.
Final review: Surely I’m not the only one who was expecting demented heavy metal circus music when I saw the name of this band for the first time, right? What I got was something a lot more normal than that. But let’s toss expectations aside; even if my original vision of a band called “Karnivool” proved to be a more exciting prospect than some regular ol’ rock, what do I think of the music itself? Well… a bit underwhelming, honestly. They’re not bad by any means, but they generally don’t do too much for me. I feel like they’re the kind of band that puts a lot of emotion into their music, but I just don’t feel it. So what I’m left with is some music that’s good enough at best, but still at least decent. “C.O.T.E.” is the best of the four songs. It’s nothing special or anything, but it’s an enjoyable listen overall and has some rather pleasant parts to it. “We Are” has a great vocal section towards the end, but the rest of the song is a bit bland and even though I like the part towards the end, I think it overstays its welcome just a bit. “New Day” feels like it’s trying to be very emotional with the vocals, but they just don’t do anything for me and occasionally don’t sound that great. I also think the song is maybe a bit too long… I think there’s potential for me to enjoy a band like this, but Karnivool in particular just isn’t my thing, even if I think it’s still kinda good.
C.O.T.E. - 7.5/10
Goliath - 7/10
We Are - 6.75/10
New Day - 6.75/10
Roulette score: 7.0
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Puppies_On_Acid
Oceansize
First impression: I was expecting something rather strange, but instead I got some very pretty, atmospheric music.
Final review: Very pleasant and beautiful music. That’s basically all I need to say about Oceansize, but I should go into a little more detail here. I really wasn’t expecting the music to be what it is, what with some of the strange song titles they have. There’s “Women Who Love Men Who Love Drugs”, which was sent in this round, but other odd titles I’ve heard of include “Commemorative 9/11 T-Shirt” and “It's My Tail and I'll Chase It If I Want To”. But speaking of that one song that I did listen to, WWLMWLD (nice abbreviation, eh?) is a great showcase of what this band is about. Atmospheric, ambient yet a little energetic, really good vocals… Now, this isn’t the greatest singer I’ve ever heard, but his voice fits the music so well, especially in WWLMWLD. “Trail of Fire” is a bit different from the other Oceansize songs; it’s got that signature aesthetic that makes Oceansize great, but there’s a lot more energy and it leans towards more “normal” songwriting than the soundscape-ish structure of the other songs. There’s two 10+ minute songs here, which are my two favorites. “The Frame” has a nice but very slow start, but there’s some really great moments, especially towards the end, that more than make up for it. “Voorhees” has some great vocals and has this calm yet intense atmosphere to it. I’m guessing mostly all of Oceansize’s music is like these songs, and if so, I am very interested in checking out more of this stuff. So pretty…
Women Who Love Men Who Love Drugs - 8.5/10
Trail of Fire - 8.5/10
The Frame - 8.75/10
Voorhees - 8.75/10
Roulette score: 8.6
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Evermind / Elite
Pain of Salvation
First impression: Makes me think of a modern-day Marillion, only I can feel more emotions with this one.
Final review: Ah, Pain of Salvation... Yet another one of those bands that I’ve heard a lot about ever since I joined DTF. I’ve heard quite a few opinions on them, on here and elsewhere. Some say they’re great, some say they’re the greatest thing ever, some say they’re incredibly pretentious… So yeah, this was a band I was interested in checking out when they were submitted in this roulette. Based on these eight songs, though… I think my thoughts about the band are more on a song-by-song basis. They have their own sound, and they do different styles, but when comparing songs they’ve made that follow a specific style, there can be differing results. For instance, I would say “WAIT” and “Iter Impius” are, in some ways, similar to each other (aside from Iter Impius having more energy to it). Of these two songs, I like WAIT significantly more than Iter Impius (though Iter Impius is still pretty good). Though when I compare those two ballad-esque songs to another one like “Second Love”, those two are both inferior; I didn’t think much of Second Love at first, but one night it just really clicked with me and I think it’s probably my favorite song out of all eight Pain of Salvation songs I listened to. Maybe this whole “song-by-song basis” thing doesn’t make sense, but I’ve already written this much… To say my thoughts on the band as a whole, they are definitely good. I guess what I’m saying is that I need to listen to some of these albums to determine what qualities I enjoy the most. Going over some of Elite’s submissions (as I’ve only mentioned Evermind’s so far), there’s more variety here, though I think I enjoyed this batch of songs a little less. “King of Loss” is very good, though; if it’s not Second Love, then this song is my favorite Pain of Salvation song I was sent. It has a long buildup, but both the buildup and payoff are quite satisfying. “RESTLESS BOY” is rather different from the other songs, going for a more electronic sound, but I think it works pretty well. There’s even a vocoder before the proper vocals, I think, and that sounds good as well. Now, I think this is going to be a controversial opinion, but while I like the song, “In the Passing Light of Day” is easily my least favorite of these eight songs. It sounds nice, but it feels too long and at times I feel like there’s not enough going on. Looking at these eight songs as a whole, though, Pain of Salvation has some very interesting stuff; enough to make me interested in checking out a few albums, at least!
WAIT - 8.25/10
Iter Impius - 7.75/10
Second Love - 8.75/10
Beyond the Pale - 8.5/10
Rope Ends - 8.25/10
King of Loss - 8.75/10
RESTLESS BOY - 8.25/10
In the Passing Light of Day - 7.75/10
Evermind’s roulette score: 8.3
Elite’s roulette score: 8.3
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HOF
Big Big Train
First impression: Certainly good, but I don't have much else to say about it.
Final review: The first couple times I listened to Big Big Train, I was worried that it was going to be another one of those bands where I couldn’t find anything to say about it, other than “I like it”. Fortunately, though, that did not turn out to be the case! Well, the “I like it” part still stands. If I had to compare this band to something else, it’s a bit like Riverside with some Transatlantic elements here and there; they’ve still got their own unique sound, of course. “A Boy in Darkness” is a quite interesting song. It starts off mellow and rather ominous, and it gets a bit more energized in the chorus, but then about a little less than halfway into the song, it switches to this really cool section where it’s fast-paced and there’s some symphonic instruments like a violin playing along. Another great song is “Snowfalls”, which does a very good job at feeling like a winter/Christmas song while still feeling unique in how it’s presented. I think there’s a lot to enjoy about this band, though I don’t know if the songs sent represent how their music generally sounds, or if they do a lot more different styles than what I’ve heard here. If it’s the latter, then checking out some albums from Big Big Train sounds like an exciting prospect to me. That said, even if this is the extent of what they tend to do, I think I’d still want more of this.
A Boy in Darkness - 8.5/10
Last Train - 8/10
Snowfalls - 8.5/10
Roulette score: 8.3
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Stadler
Deep Purple
First impression: This was a lot more interesting than I expected!
Final review: So I mentioned that I found this very interesting… but looking back, I think it’s really just one song that I found particularly good; while I do like these guys better than I thought I would, any novelty two of these songs had has more or less gone away. Deep Purple has that classic rock aesthetic that sometimes works for me, but sometimes it doesn’t. On that scale, they’re in the middle. At their best, I do enjoy it, but it seems that’s more of the exception than the rule, if these three songs are anything to go by. But even when they’re not at their best, it’s still some worthwhile stuff to listen to. To make this straightforward, the best song here is “Burn”. It’s a fun song with a very memorable riff throughout the song, and there’s some pretty talented vocals on display. The other songs are actually good as well, though not as good. In the case of “No No No”, it’s pretty catchy, but some of the lyrics are kind of jarring to listen to (“Do we love each other? No no no”). “Not Responsible” has a really cool, slightly atmospheric riff at the beginning, and it does recur throughout the song, but the rest of the song isn’t particularly as interesting. So overall, Deep Purple is good, though not necessarily a band I’d get into. They were worth a shot for Burn alone, though!
No No No - 7.75/10
Not Responsible - 7.75/10
Burn - 8/10
Roulette score: 7.8
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425
Seventh Wonder
First impression: An impressive piece of music, this is.
Final review: This was an unexpected submission. Not in what the music is, but rather that there’s only one song to discuss here. So it is a bit tricky to decide how I feel about the band based on just one song… even if said song is a 30-minute epic. So, this 30-minute epic is called “The Great Escape”, and much like most songs of this kind, there’s all sorts of twists and turns. Now, I don’t think I would call this song a masterpiece (or at least, I’m not at that point yet), but there is one important aspect that it more or less gets right; throughout its lengthy runtime, it is consistently interesting. I don’t love every single moment of the song, but there’s almost always something to keep me interested, like the instrumental that properly begins the song after the soft acoustic intro. Seeing as this band’s vocalist, Tommy Karevik, also appeared in Kamelot, I should mention that I think he’s a very good singer. It’s been a while since I heard the one Kamelot song I was sent in Round 2 that he sings on, but I think here his voice fits in quite well with the music, whether it’s a gentler voice like in the aforementioned acoustic intro, or his normal, rather powerful voice throughout most of the song. Now, a song that’s 30 minutes long will naturally take me many more listens to fully digest and memorize, but there are some highlights I can bring up. The instrumental stuff during “VII. Death of the Goddesses” is really great, I really like how the piano and heavy guitars go together. There’s also a couple sections in “XI. The Aftermath” with a female singer, and with the quieter atmosphere they make during those sections, it works very well. The only thing I’d say I don’t like about the song is when the song briefly stops about halfway through, before “VIII. The Age of Confusion: Despair”. The song is very seamless in how it goes from movement to movement otherwise, so I wish there was a better transition to the next movement than just a few seconds of silence. But that’s really about the only complaint I have with the song. And to judge the band as a whole… Again, it’s kind of hard to judge based on one song, but I think if the rest of the album this comes from has the same amount of quality that this song has, I think I’m in for something great. Well, either way, with an epic like this, how could I not be intrigued?
The Great Escape - 9/10
Roulette score: 9.0
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TAC
Burden of Life
First impression: Unsure how I feel about the harsh vocals, but there's some pretty interesting stuff here otherwise.
Final review: So here’s a somewhat interesting one. Burden of Life, simply put, makes some pretty good music, at least based on the two songs I’ve heard. Musically, it’s high-energy metal, and while that’s about the only way I can describe what this band is about, that’s not a bad thing; as I mentioned, this band makes some good stuff. Of the two songs sent, I like “Goddess of the River” better. It’s just that high-energy goodness and it never lets up, even in the softer section in the middle of the song. The chorus is so catchy, too. The harsh vocals were a bit odd to me at first, but now I think they fit in very well with the music. (Small tangent: Since my first impression for this band was similar to my impressions on Exist, I’ll mention that I prefer the vocals in this band, both soft and harsh.) Anyway, “The Makeshift Conqueror, Pt. 2” is very good as well. I think the highlight is the intro, actually. The drumming and the somewhat dramatic band entrance is such a great way to start the song. After that intro, the band does what they do best. There’s a cool part around 3:40 where it slows down and there’s a choir in the background. I wish that part lasted longer. If the rest of the album these songs come from has music of this quality or higher, I’d be very interested in checking out the whole thing.
Goddess of the River - 8.5/10
The Makeshift Conqueror, Pt. 2 - 8.25/10
Roulette score: 8.4
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STANDINGS:
425: 8.9 + 8.4 + 9.0 = 26.3
Cyril: 8.8 + 9.0 + 8.4 = 26.2
twosuitsluke: 8.6 + 8.6 + 8.9 = 26.1
Buddyhunter1: 8.9 + 8.0 + 8.8 = 25.7
Evermind: 8.6 + 8.6 + 8.3 = 25.5
Sacul: 8.2 + 8.6 + 8.3 = 25.1
Lethean: 7.7 + 8.2 + 8.7 = 24.6
TAC: 7.8 + 8.4 + 8.4 = 24.6
kingshmegland: 8.2 + 7.8 + 8.5 = 24.5
MoraWintersoul: 8.3 + 8.1 + 7.9 = 24.3
Nekov: 8.2 + 7.4 + 8.5 = 24.1
Elite: 8.1 + 7.7 + 8.3 = 24.1
jingle.boy: 7.9 + 8.1 + 8.1 = 24.1
Luoto: 8.3 + 7.6 + 7.8 = 23.7
romdrums: 8.4 + 8.1 + 7.0 = 23.5
HOF: 7.6 + 7.6 + 8.3 = 23.5
Puppies_On_Acid: 7.8 + 6.6 + 8.6 = 23.0
Stadler: 6.4 + 8.6 + 7.8 = 22.8
Anguyen92: 7.9 + 7.3 + 7.1 = 22.3
I can’t apologize enough for how long I’ve made you all wait. I’m gonna have to really try my best to go through Round 4 more quickly than I did with this round… Well, anyway, it is now Round 4 time, so send your submissions if you haven’t done so already!
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And Cyril questioned me sending Vorhees.... That song is amazing and every bit as good as The Frame. :metal
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I'm dead last. Not only I'm dead last, I'm right below Stadler. I'm sorry, Stadler, but I can't have that. If I can't knock this out well in round 4, I might as well throw something very random on round 5. I even decided, for this round, to not have one song be from 2000-onwards.
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HOF
Big Big Train
First impression: Certainly good, but I don't have much else to say about it.
Final review: The first couple times I listened to Big Big Train, I was worried that it was going to be another one of those bands where I couldn’t find anything to say about it, other than “I like it”. Fortunately, though, that did not turn out to be the case! Well, the “I like it” part still stands. If I had to compare this band to something else, it’s a bit like Riverside with some Transatlantic elements here and there; they’ve still got their own unique sound, of course. “A Boy in Darkness” is a quite interesting song. It starts off mellow and rather ominous, and it gets a bit more energized in the chorus, but then about a little less than halfway into the song, it switches to this really cool section where it’s fast-paced and there’s some symphonic instruments like a violin playing along. Another great song is “Snowfalls”, which does a very good job at feeling like a winter/Christmas song while still feeling unique in how it’s presented. I think there’s a lot to enjoy about this band, though I don’t know if the songs sent represent how their music generally sounds, or if they do a lot more different styles than what I’ve heard here. If it’s the latter, then checking out some albums from Big Big Train sounds like an exciting prospect to me. That said, even if this is the extent of what they tend to do, I think I’d still want more of this.
A Boy in Darkness - 8.5/10
Last Train - 8/10
Snowfalls - 8.5/10
Roulette score: 8.3
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I’m glad you liked this. BBT are pretty much my favorite band right now (who is still actively making music). I would say what I sent you is definitely just the tip of the iceberg with this band. I think if you liked A Boy In Darkness you should check out the English Electric album (the double CD version). That’s got a wide range of styles on it, but all really high quality songwriting and production. You also can’t go wrong with The Underfall Yard which is probably my favorite. More recent albums have a little more of a folk music vibe with more prominent use of violin. They’re a band of many talents and many styles that merge together, but all of it is really well done. They have a deep catalog, so if you get hooked there is a lot to explore.
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The second half of the results.
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jingle.boy
Queensrÿche
First impression: Pretty good stuff! This might grow on me a lot.
Final review: So despite what my first impression implied, I’m not sure if Queensrÿche has grown on me all that much. But it’s strange, this feels like a band I should have grown to really enjoy. Some of the music here vaguely reminds me of When Dream and Day Unite
:wtf:
:rollin
All hope is lost. I’ll send round 4 and 5 tomorrow.
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The second half of the results.
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jingle.boy
Queensrÿche
First impression: Pretty good stuff! This might grow on me a lot.
Final review: So despite what my first impression implied, I’m not sure if Queensrÿche has grown on me all that much. But it’s strange, this feels like a band I should have grown to really enjoy. Some of the music here vaguely reminds me of When Dream and Day Unite
:wtf:
:rollin
That's mainly in reference to Queen of the Reich, not so much the songs from Operation: Mindcrime.
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OK, see you guys around mid December! :lol
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OK, see you guys around mid December! :lol
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too, TAC. :neverusethis:
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:lol
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Frames and Effloresce are both very good albums :tup Some of my favorite songs Puppies didn't send are Massive Bereavement, Long Forgotten and Only Twin.
This next round will be interesting... might not be in the top five after it but we'll see :corn
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OK, see you guys around mid December! :lol
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too, TAC. :neverusethis:
Aw, I think this roulette will probably be over before the year ends.
Hopefully.
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OK, see you guys around mid December! :lol
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too, TAC. :neverusethis:
Aw, I think this roulette will probably be over before the year ends.
Which year? :lol
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Tim, you son of a bitch. :lol
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OK, see you guys around mid December! :lol
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too, TAC. :neverusethis:
Aw, I think this roulette will probably be over before the year ends.
Which year? :lol
This one! :lol
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Tim, you son of a bitch. :lol
:lol
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i think your rankings of all the pain of salvation songs are almost directly opposite of how i'd rank them myself. amazing
also. 425 :getoffmylawn:
i actually take it as personal insult that the frame got a sub-9 score considering it's actually a 10/10 and one of my favorite songs period, like, easily in the top 5 if not the absolute best song i've ever heard tbh. nice work!
anyways next round i'm probably tanking myself with the first of the two really difficult entries which is a shame but i think i'mma stick to my guns for at least this one. the next one maybe not so much.
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i actually take it as personal insult that the frame got a sub-9 score considering it's actually a 10/10 and one of my favorite songs period, like, easily in the top 5 if not the absolute best song i've ever heard tbh. nice work!
anyways next round i'm probably tanking myself with the first of the two really difficult entries which is a shame but i think i'mma stick to my guns for at least this one. the next one maybe not so much.
I don't think my score for The Frame is so bad, it's basically calling it a great song bordering on being amazing. That's a pretty good compliment if I do say so myself. And who knows, maybe The Frame will grow on me even more... If it makes you feel better, people tend to think very lowly of a lot of songs I'd consider my favorites of all time.
Regarding your Round 4 submission, I have no idea what to expect in terms of how much I'll like or dislike it (much like all the other submissions you've sent so far), but I am particularly excited to see how things will turn out with this one.
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Imagine someone's taste is different than someone else.
Cyril, you're in second. I think he likes your tastes.
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Nice.
I'll try to send something in ten days.
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King of Loss is amazing, glad you liked it!
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I did a pro gamer move and sent just two songs :hat
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I'm dead last. Not only I'm dead last, I'm right below Stadler. I'm sorry, Stadler, but I can't have that. If I can't knock this out well in round 4, I might as well throw something very random on round 5. I even decided, for this round, to not have one song be from 2000-onwards.
HAHAHA. I take no offense. In roulette terms, I'm the fat kid in the 100-yard-dash in school. If you finish behind me, you either tripped on your shoe-laces or you need to do some soul-searching! :) :) :)
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Hey, Stadler somehow managed to outlast two prior champions in my last roulette. :lol
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Stadler made it to the final round of my last roulette :P
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Sent for round 4! :metal :metal :metal :corn
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Just a friendly reminder, I still need submissions from:
- twosuitsluke
- Elite
- 425
- kingshemgland
- Evermind
- Stadler
I'm moreso just putting this here for future reference, I am by no means trying to hurry anyone up or anything like that.
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I'll be sending tonight!
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I mostly wasn't on DTF during the weekend and today was extremely busy at work, I'm absolutely spent. I'm having a tea and then I'll go get some sleep. I'll try my best to send tomorrow.
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s l o w ride
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I mostly wasn't on DTF during the weekend and today was extremely busy at work, I'm absolutely spent. I'm having a tea and then I'll go get some sleep. I'll try my best to send tomorrow.
That's alright, I figured you were very busy seeing as you said "I'll try to send something in ten days". Take your time, I'm not trying to rush you.
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Nah, that was more tongue in cheek man. :) Still, yeah, I didn't plan on sending during the weekend and today was so hectic.
I promise I'll either send tomorrow or I'll drop out of this roulette.
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I mostly wasn't on DTF during the weekend and today was extremely busy at work, I'm absolutely spent. I'm having a tea and then I'll go get some sleep. I'll try my best to send tomorrow.
This is me too :o
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Elitevermindler
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I promise I'll either send tomorrow or I'll drop out of this roulette.
I hope that last bit was another tongue-in-cheek comment, I wouldn't want you to drop out of the roulette!
Elitevermindler
Well, both Evermind and Elite did also send me Pain of Salvation in Round 3... Could there be more to this than it may seem? :lol
Nah, probably not.
Well, I think I'll get started on listening to the submissions I have so far either today or tomorrow. Then once I've got all the submissions, I'll get to listening to the remainder and the first impressions will then be revealed.
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Elitevermindler
Without meaning any offense to Revenge319, I honestly refuse to take any blame for taking four days to send my song in a roulette where the last round lasted more than a month.
Revenge: don't worry, I'll definitely send tomorrow. Or I'll drop out of this roulette. :P
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Could there be more to this than it may seem? :lol
Who knows!
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i sent all of my submissions like... two months ago, so i can bully you for being slow if i want :loser:
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Good job! Unfortunately, despite being way too early, you'll have to wait for all results just as long as we do :)
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i sent all of my submissions like... two months ago, so i can bully you for being slow if i want :loser:
Whatever floats your boat, o holy guide of the 4/10
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elite & evermind sending their submissions like
Wait another day
Wait another night
Just wait another week
Just wait another month
Just wait another year
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Elitevermindler
Without meaning any offense to Revenge319, I honestly refuse to take any blame for taking four days to send my song in a roulette where the last round lasted more than a month.
Hey, I completely understand. No offense taken!
i sent all of my submissions like... two months ago, so i can bully you for being slow if i want :loser:
I'm a bit surprised you haven't done that all that much! :lol
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I have no idea what to send honestly. I'm at that stage I get to in roulettes, I'm doing well and am definitely about to blow it :lol
Guess I'll send something on impulse within the next 24 hours.
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Sent btw
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Sent btw
Same.
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Sent
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Sent. I'm as predictable as the sun.
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425
Seventh Wonder
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The Great Escape - 9/10
Roulette score: 9.0
Absolutely thrilled with this outcome. This piece really is a lot to digest, but it's one that has stood the test of time for me. And I do think it's as representative of the band's overall sound as an epic can be.
And... I'm in first place? That's another nice surprise. Going to try not to mess it up too badly on these last two rounds.
Just sent.
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For the sake of clarification, there's something I would like to bring up regarding this roulette.
Way back when I first opened the roulette and made all the rules and stuff, there's something I mentioned that I'd like to go into a little more detail on, and how it will affect scoring.
"...if I hear a song amazing enough, the scale can go a bit higher than 10 (well, kind of... you'll see what I mean if I'm sent a song of that quality in this roulette)."
I normally would have waited until it happened to explain, but I realized that after recently coming up with the way I want to implement that into scoring a roulette submission, it'd be better to talk about it now than have the potential situation of people wondering why someone just suddenly scored a large amount of points. And yeah, it's a bit funny that I'm talking about this when the highest score a song has received so far is a 9.5/10.
So, what's higher than 10? Well... in terms of the number itself, 10. I think it's a bit silly to rate a song higher than 10 when it's a scale from 1 to 10. But it's a 10 with a shiny red filter to it, to signify that this specific song is something truly special to me; to signify that maybe there really are things out there greater than perfection (if one artistic medium can pull that off, it's definitely music). Now as you can probably imagine, these specific ratings are very rare. In my opinion, Dream Theater has about 26 songs that are a 10/10. Only eight of those are a 10/10. And Dream Theater is and always will be my most favorite artist ever. Haken is #2 on that favorite artists list, and they don't have any special 10/10s (Visions comes very close, though). The only other songs I can think of that I'd give the elusive 10/10 at the moment are The Whirlwind, When the Water Breaks, and maybe Anesthetize. Okay, that's just the background stuff; what you guys are probably more interested in is how this applies to the roulette.
First off, to clarify, I am not saying this now because I know I'm going to be giving a song that elusive rating in either of these two rounds; I'd love to be able to hear another song I thought was that perfect of a song, but as of the time I'm writing this, I have not heard a song in Round 4 yet that I'd consider giving that special rating to.
So, what happens if a song you submit gets a special 10/10? My idea is, the entire score of the submission gets doubled. So if, theoretically, someone gets an 8.8 for their overall score for the round and gets a 10/10, that will be doubled to 17.6. And this effect stacks, too. Let's say someone gets a 9.2 and they happened to send two special 10/10 songs. That gets doubled to 18.4, then doubled again to 36.8. And if one were to somehow manage to submit four godlike pieces of music in a single round... You'd get a score of 640. Or in other words, you're basically guaranteed to win the roulette.Stacking the effect seemed cool, but it seems a little too unbalanced, so just ignore the crossed-out part. Plus, it's highly unlikely that this would ever happen in the first place.
Apologies for taking over three rounds to realize this... But at the very least, better to bring it up late than never, right? I'll also add this to the rules post at the beginning of the thread for easier reference.
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i think that any person who would manage to do that would automatically win the roulette and it feels like a really unbalanced way of scoring but i also doubt that a song can become that important to you within the short timespan of roulette listening to the point where i doubt it'll actually matter anyways
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i think that any person who would manage to do that would automatically win the roulette and it feels like a really unbalanced way of scoring but i also doubt that a song can become that important to you within the short timespan of roulette listening to the point where i doubt it'll actually matter anyways
Yeah, that's more or less what I was thinking, too. I ultimately decided to go with it, though, because in the event that someone does send a song of such importance, I think they should deserve greater results. Maybe I'll get rid of the "multiple 10s = doubles stack" part to make it more balanced.
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I could probably use one of those red 10s right now to get back in the hunt. I don't see how the scaling can go wrong right away. For all we know, someone could have a red 10 song, but can have like 3 5.0 songs in the submission as well which brings down the average to like 6.25, which doubles to a 12.5 score for the round. Can help vault someone back to winning this thing.
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Sent for real now, since someone else beat me to the punch on my first submission so thoroughly that I decided to change artists.
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Evermind sent my tracks
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I wonder who sent my tracks, then, and what Evermind did send. Because I kind of thought Evermind sent mine.
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Oh, that was me then
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:lol
I sent Ayreon
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Of course you did
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I sent trip hop
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I'm genuinely stumped what to send for the final round. Definitely not winning this, but I wanna do well.
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I'm not sure either tbh. I have one artist that could be considered cheating and might be a pretty poor choice for most roulettes but I really like them sooo maybe.
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my final round pick would be sufficient for making an insanity plea in court so i ain't gonna win but we'll go down swinging nonetheless
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:lol
I sent Ayreon
Dang it! I was hoping that if no one nabbed Ayreon this round, I would submit it for Round 5. Granted, it would be nothing but stuff from The Human Equation, but it's still great stuff.
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In a bizarre turn of events, I did not send anything from The Human Equation, even though it's my favourite Ayreon album and one of my favourite albums of all time.
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which is a shame since betrayal is still the best ayreon song
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Betrayal at House on the Hill is a pretty fun board game, I don't have any comments on the subject beyond that one
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:lol
I sent Ayreon
Yeah, figured, including my two favorite Ayreon songs. I decided to change artists after hearing that both of those were off-limits!
And then I decided to give TAC the win in my roulette as revenge. (just kidding!)
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:lol
I sent Ayreon
Yeah, figured, including my two favorite Ayreon songs. I decided to change artists after hearing that both of those were off-limits!
I mean you can't blame me here, I'd say I'm one of the biggest Ayreon fans here on DTF still.
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Oh, no, absolutely can't blame you at all! And honestly, I'm glad you chose those songs, because I think Revenge should hear them.
Also, I ended up sending an artist you introduced me to, so if anyone should be blamed for something...
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I can tell you guys that I do not know why the thread title is still the way it is.
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I can tell you guys that I do not know why the thread title is still the way it is.
I got your message now, I was just asleep for the past few hours. Now I've changed it to another one of those quirky titles that both references music and ties in to the roulette.
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hang ma nen
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hang ma nen
That should be here tomorrow.
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...which is thanksgiving :lol
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Not for us outside the US :neverusethis:
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what's thanksgiving?
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what's thanksgiving?
A day where Americans get plumped up on turkey, mashed potatoes, stuffing, etc. Canada also has a Thanksgiving, but it was last month.
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what's canada?
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what's canada?
It's a place where they grow hosers.
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Impressions time!!
1. This sure takes me back to when I was younger... and surprisingly, I think it still holds up!
2. I'm gonna need more listens to see if this does anything for me.
3. Rather unusual, though that might just be a result of me not really listening to this kind of genre.
4. Adding this to the list of artists that were a lot better than I expected.
5. 01001001 00100000 01101100 01101001 01101011 01100101 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100001
6. Of all the classic rock bands I've been sent, this one's probably the most in-the-middle for me.
7. It's about what I expected, yet it's quite different than I expected. Nonetheless, I like it!
8. Not sure how much I like this particular style, but this is alright.
9. This... This is the GOOD STUFF.
10. Somewhat hit-or-miss for me at the moment.
11. For the most part, I don't think the vocals go too well with the music.
12. Some cool moments here and there, but overall it's just alright.
13. Advanced proggy Amorphis.
14. Pretty good stuff. Strange, I thought they had a "z" in their name...
15. "Grandiose" is easily the best way to describe this band.
16. I don't even know how to describe this one, but let's just say I have some good things to say about it.
17. I like this, and I have a feeling that it's gonna really click with me at some point.
18. Reminds me of a few bands I've been sent, but this one seems a bit less interesting.
As usual, some of these may be hints to what some of the submissions are...
Hangmanen comes later today.
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all the bad ones are mine :corn
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I have no idea. I hope it’s #7, #9, #16 or #17!
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I feel like Evermind is #5.
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5. 01001001 00100000 01101100 01101001 01101011 01100101 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100001
Starblade! :metal
13. Advanced proggy Amorphis.
Not really...
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#15 for me?
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I have no idea. I hope it’s #7, #9, #16 or #17!
But it's probably #10.
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I think 3 is mine.
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#9 accurately described mine IMO.
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I would say 1 if "when you were younger" wasn't like... 2010. :lol
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Mine could be 11, since I've heard people make this comment about this singer before.....they are wrong, but I've heard it nonetheless. :neverusethis:
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14. Pretty good stuff. Strange, I thought they had a "z" in their name...
Please tell me this ain't mine.
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15. "Grandiose" is easily the best way to describe this band.
Could very easily be mine.
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6. Of all the classic rock bands I've been sent, this one's probably the most in-the-middle for me.
Me.
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Some interesting speculations! Well, here's the next hangmanen. To say one more thing regarding my impressions about this round in general... I was initially worried about this one. I thought after Round 3, there wouldn't be much left that I'd be excited about. But even if there are a couple submissions here and there that don't do much for me, I'm surprised at how much of the Round 4 submissions I already enjoy. And in fact... it may be a bit early to say this, but one of these songs could end up being my favorite out of every song in this entire roulette so far...
Anyway! Hangmanen!
??: Fates Warning
1: N___in_ ____ __ _a_
2: The Light and Shade of Things
??: _a___d_n
1: ____d and ___nd_r
2: ___a__r_a___r
3: __in_____n__
4: An_i_n_ _in_d__
??: _a___d_n
5: _a_i__arian _r___
6: ___ ____ i_ _____
7: ___ __ar
8: _a__ar __d
Buddyhunter1: Anamanaguchi
1: _nd____ _an_a__
2: Sunset By Plane
3: Air _n _in_
4: __ Di_
??: Soundgarden
1: _____in_d
2: __ _a__
3: _i__ __i_id_
4: __rd_n In __ _and
??: __r_____d
1: _i___ and __a__
2: ___n___n_n
3: _r____r_
4: _i___ in ___ ___ __ Dr_a__
5: _n____ind
??: _ir__r___n
1: ___ ____r
2: N__ __rn _r___
3: A_ A____, __ _____
4: __ _____
??: Pure Reason Revolution
1: Bullitts Dominae
2: ___ ___n__n / _r___i_in _i_____
3: D___ __ _a__ina
4: _a____r__
??: ____in_ & _inn__ann
1: ___r ____n___
2: ___ __ ___ ______
3: __ar ___ _a___ D__n (N_ ____ri__)
4: A__i_a__
??: __n____i_n
1: _ara____ _ind_
2: _ardina_ _in
??: AC/DC
1: Hells Bells
2: For Those About to Rock (We Salute You)
3: Problem Child
4: Highway to Hell
??: Ar__ _a_____
1: __r_i_i_n ___n_
2: _ra__ __ ___ _ni__r__
3: _____r_d
4: _indr_d __iri__
Sacul: Portishead
1: Glory Box
2: Roads
3: All Mine
4: The Rip
??: _ar___ _r_____
1: I _a__ ___r Na__
2: ___d
3: A____
4: _a___ __ ___ ___
Evermind: Ayreon
1: The Day That the World Breaks Down
2: Valley of the Queens
3: Waking Dreams
4: Into the Black Hole
Stadler: Rainbow
1: Stargazer
2: All Night Long
3: Fire Dance
??: Blind Guardian
1: Wheel of Time
2: And Then There Was Silence
??: ____r
1: _r___r__ __ ____, __a___ _-__
2: ___ ____r_ ___nd __ ___i_
3: I_ i_ n__ ___nd
4: R___in_ ___n_
Cyril: A Novelist
1: His Kingdom is Vast
2: Acacia Crown
3: Caveat Lector
4: _________ _____
Guessed letters: D I N R
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gimme the d
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I
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N
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R
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A Novelist
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I wonder how long before Evermind guesses mine.... :corn
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Stadler sent AC/DC
Also Blind Guardian - Wheel of Time,nice
If I didn't get that then I'd have to delete my quote on my profile :lol
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Sacul sent Portishead:
1. Glory Box
2. Roads
3. All Mine
4. The Rip
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The other Blind Guardian song is And Then There Was Silence.
I reckon this is Puppies
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Soundgarden, don't know any songs though.
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I'll assume Stadler sent AC/DC.
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Stadler sent AC/DC
I'll assume Stadler sent AC/DC.
Stadler did not send me air conditioning from the District of Columbia.
Oh, uh... I mean, he didn't send me AC/DC.
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TAC then?
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TAC then?
Nope, not TAC either.
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Shocking!
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I shouldn't even need to say that Cyril sent A Novelist but Cyril sent A Novelist
His Kingdom Is Vast
Acacia Crown
Caveat Lector
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The other Blind Guardian song is And Then There Was Silence.
I reckon this is Puppies
Not me, but it is something I would likely send. Especially Wheel of Time!
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Blind Guardian could be Evermind
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Blind Guardian could be Evermind
No, Evermind sent Ayreon:
1. The Day that the World Breaks Down
2. Valley of the Queens
3. Waking Dreams
4. Into the Black Hole
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No, I sent Ayreon
I know who sent AC/DC but I can't disclose that
Soundgarden
Pure Reason Revolution
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No, I sent Ayreon
Yes I know
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Pure Reason Revolution
Bullitts Dominae
No Eupnea tracks? Who do I have to slap???
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Yeah wtf, should've at least included Ghosts and Raccoons
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??: AC/DC
1: _____ _____
2: __r ____ _____ __ R___ (__ ______ ___)
3: _r_____ __i_d
4: _i_____ __ ____
Money Talks
For Those About To Rock
Problem Child
Highway To Hell
Interesting choices...
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two of those ayreon picks suck, nice
give me the A for A Novelist
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Fates Warning, incl. The Light and Shade of Things
Anamanaguchi sent by Buddy, incl. Sunset by Plane
Someone & Minnemann
Rainbow, sent by Stadler?
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??: Rain___
1: __ar_a__r
2: A__ Ni___ __n_
3: _ir_ Dan__
Stargazer
All Night Long
Fire Dance
And the other AC/Dc song is Hells Bells
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Hangmanen has been updated.
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Fates Warning, incl. The Light and Shade of Things
As is required by law.
And yes I did send Anamanamanaguchi, looks like Revenge missed updating the hangman there
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Fates Warning, incl. The Light and Shade of Things
As is required by law.
And yes I did send Anamanamanaguchi, looks like Revenge missed updating the hangman there
Sorry about that, I somehow missed that.
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Shocking!
How is that shocking? I told you last night who I sent!
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Mastodon (x2):
Blood and Thunder
Steambreather
Capillarian Crest
The Czar
Jaguar God
Arch/Matheos:
Tethered
Kindred Spirits
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TAC: Fates Warning
1: Nothing Left To Say
2: The Light and Shade of Things
??: Mastodon
1: Blood and Thunder
2: Steambreather
3: Quintessence
4: Ancient Kingdom
twosuitsluke: Mastodon
5: Capillarian Crest
6: The Wolf is Loose
7: The Czar
8: Jaguar God
Buddyhunter1: Anamanaguchi
1: End_e__ _anta__
2: Sunset By Plane
3: Air _n _ine
4: _e Die
Anguyen92: Soundgarden
1: __t__ined
2: __ _a_e
3: _i_e __i_ide
4: B_rden In __ _and
Lethean: Threshold
1: Light and Space
2: __en__en_n
3: _re___re
4: _i__t in t_e ___ __ Drea__
5: _n__b_ind
??: _ire_r__en
1: T_e T__er
2: Ne_ B_rn Tr_t_
3: A_ Ab__e, __ Be___
4: __ _e___
Nekov: Pure Reason Revolution
1: Bullitts Dominae
2: The Twyncyn / Trembilin Willows
3: Deus Ex Machina
4: Maelstrom
??: McStine & Minnemann
1: ___r ___en_e_
2: T__ __ t_e B___et
3: Tear t_e _a___ D__n (N_ _e__rie_)
4: A_ti_ate
MoraWintersoul: Conception
1: _ara__e_ _ind_
2: Cardinal Sin
jingle.boy: AC/DC
1: Hells Bells
2: For Those About to Rock (We Salute You)
3: Problem Child
4: Highway to Hell
Puppies_On_Acid: Arch/Matheos
1: Vermilion Moons
2: Wrath of the Universe
3: Tethered
4: Kindred Spirits
Sacul: Portishead
1: Glory Box
2: Roads
3: All Mine
4: The Rip
kingshmegland: Barock Project
1: I _a__ ___r Na_e
2: ___d
3: A__e_
4: _a___ t_ _ee ___
Evermind: Ayreon
1: The Day That the World Breaks Down
2: Valley of the Queens
3: Waking Dreams
4: Into the Black Hole
Stadler: Rainbow
1: Stargazer
2: All Night Long
3: Fire Dance
??: Blind Guardian
1: Wheel of Time
2: And Then There Was Silence
Elite: Ulver
1: Proverbs of Hell, Plates 7-10
2: The Future Sound of Music
3: It is not Sound
4: Rolling Stone
Cyril: A Novelist
1: His Kingdom is Vast
2: Acacia Crown
3: Caveat Lector
4: _t_______ B__e_
Guessed letters: D I N R A T B E
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T
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One more :P
MoraWintersoul: Conception
Cardinal Sin
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B
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Threshold
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Shocking!
How is that shocking? I told you last night who I sent!
TAC sent Soundgarden. ;) :rollin
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The other Fates Warning song is Nothing Left to Say. Whoever sent Fates, this was an inspired choice. :tup :tup
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Shocking!
How is that shocking? I told you last night who I sent!
TAC sent Soundgarden. ;) :rollin
Hah! ;D
I see Light And Space.
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Shocking!
How is that shocking? I told you last night who I sent!
TAC sent Soundgarden. ;) :rollin
Hah! ;D
I see Light And Space.
At least you aren't blind yet..... :biggrin:
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Dumb, yes...Blind..no!
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I'll guess Lethean for Threshold.
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Arch/Matheos is Puppies
Vermilion Moons
Wrath of the Universe
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Barock Project
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I highly approve of your submission Evermind. :)
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Barock Project
That's an interesting pick. Didn't think anyone else here listened to this band. I approve! :metal
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Ulver
Rolling Stone
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Pure Reason Revolution
Bullitts Dominae
No Eupnea tracks? Who do I have to slap???
Are you sure about that?
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Hey, remember when Avantasia (or more specifically, Twisted Mind) took up most of my attention for Round 2 because I felt compelled to just listen to it over and over and over and over?
That's happening to me with one of the artists in this round, as well. I've been listening to the other Round 4 artists a fair amount so far, but this one specific one is just so good...
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Hey, remember when Avantasia (or more specifically, Twisted Mind) took up most of my attention for Round 2 because I felt compelled to just listen to it over and over and over and over?
That's happening to me with one of the artists in this round, as well. I've been listening to the other Round 4 artists a fair amount so far, but this one specific one is just so good...
You're welcome! ;)
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Pure Reason Revolution
Bullitts Dominae
No Eupnea tracks? Who do I have to slap???
Are you sure about that?
Maelstrom. Good song but 2nd worst on the album, congrats. :lol
Well Nekov sent PRR then.
Something & Minnemann
The Future Sound Of Music
It Is Not Sound
Proverbs Of Hell, Plates 7-10
Ulver is definitely Elite with that selection of songs.
Give me an E
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Hey, remember when Avantasia (or more specifically, Twisted Mind) took up most of my attention for Round 2 because I felt compelled to just listen to it over and over and over and over?
That's happening to me with one of the artists in this round, as well. I've been listening to the other Round 4 artists a fair amount so far, but this one specific one is just so good...
You're welcome! ;)
Spoiler alert, it's not yours... it's Evermind again.
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McStine & Minnemann
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The Future Sound Of Music
It Is Not Sound
Proverbs Of Hell, Plates 7-10
Ulver is definitely Elite with that selection of songs.
What gave it away? :lol
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Pure Reason Revolution
Bullitts Dominae
No Eupnea tracks? Who do I have to slap???
Are you sure about that?
Maelstrom. Good song but 2nd worst on the album, congrats. :lol
Well Nekov sent PRR then.
I was surprised when the band name was guessed and my name was not attached to it. It's usually me who sends it in roulettes. As far as Maelstrom, I really like the song and I think it shows a side of the band that none of the other Eupnea songs do. And I would not replace any of the two songs I sent from The Dark Third.
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Hey, remember when Avantasia (or more specifically, Twisted Mind) took up most of my attention for Round 2 because I felt compelled to just listen to it over and over and over and over?
That's happening to me with one of the artists in this round, as well. I've been listening to the other Round 4 artists a fair amount so far, but this one specific one is just so good...
You're welcome! ;)
Spoiler alert, it's not yours... it's Evermind again.
You're probably right :lol
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King sent Barock Project
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By any chance, did Jingle submitted AC/DC?
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King sent Barock Project
Cat's out of the bag.
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Hey, remember when Avantasia (or more specifically, Twisted Mind) took up most of my attention for Round 2 because I felt compelled to just listen to it over and over and over and over?
That's happening to me with one of the artists in this round, as well. I've been listening to the other Round 4 artists a fair amount so far, but this one specific one is just so good...
I felt this way about one of my songs when I got it in my own roulette, so I'm cautiously hopeful...
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Sorry for the wait, the Hangman is now updated!
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Artists left:
Fates Warning
Mastodon x2
Soundgarden
?
McStine and Minnemann
Blind Guardian
People left:
HOF
425
romdrums
TAC
Anguyen92
Luoto
twosuitsluke
I'm going to guess Anguyen sent Soundgarden and TAC sent Fates Warning.
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Deus Ex Machina
The Twyncyn / Trembling Willows
Ancient Kingdom
Quintessence
The Wolf Is Loose
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Deus Ex Machina
Interesting, the video I was sent says "Deux Ex Machina", but after looking it up it does indeed say "Deus Ex Machina". I guess it was a typo?
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Luke definitely sent Mastodon
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F
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TAC: Fates Warning
1: Nothing Left To Say
2: The Light and Shade of Things
romdrums: Mastodon
1: Blood and Thunder
2: Steambreather
3: Quintessence
4: Ancient Kingdom
twosuitsluke: Mastodon
5: Capillarian Crest
6: The Wolf is Loose
7: The Czar
8: Jaguar God
Buddyhunter1: Anamanaguchi
1: End_e__ Fanta__
2: Sunset By Plane
3: Air _n _ine
4: _e Die
Anguyen92: Soundgarden
1: Outshined
2: My Wave
3: Like Suicide
4: Burden In My Hand
Lethean: Threshold
1: Light and Space
2: __en_men_n
3: _re___re
4: _i__t in t_e ___ _f Dream_
5: _n__b_ind
Luoto: Fireproven
1: The Tower
2: New Born Truth
3: As Above, So Below
4: __ _e___
Nekov: Pure Reason Revolution
1: Bullitts Dominae
2: The Twyncyn / Trembilin Willows
3: Deus Ex Machina
4: Maelstrom
HOF: McStine & Minnemann
1: Your Offenses
2: Top of the Bucket
3: Tear the Walls Down (No Memories)
4: Activate
MoraWintersoul: Conception
1: _ara__e_ Mind_
2: Cardinal Sin
jingle.boy: AC/DC
1: Hells Bells
2: For Those About to Rock (We Salute You)
3: Problem Child
4: Highway to Hell
Puppies_On_Acid: Arch/Matheos
1: Vermilion Moons
2: Wrath of the Universe
3: Tethered
4: Kindred Spirits
Sacul: Portishead
1: Glory Box
2: Roads
3: All Mine
4: The Rip
kingshmegland: Barock Project
1: I _a__ ___r Name
2: ___d
3: A__e_
4: _a___ t_ _ee ___
Evermind: Ayreon
1: The Day That the World Breaks Down
2: Valley of the Queens
3: Waking Dreams
4: Into the Black Hole
Stadler: Rainbow
1: Stargazer
2: All Night Long
3: Fire Dance
425: Blind Guardian
1: Wheel of Time
2: And Then There Was Silence
Elite: Ulver
1: Proverbs of Hell, Plates 7-10
2: The Future Sound of Music
3: It is not Sound
4: Rolling Stone
Cyril: A Novelist
1: His Kingdom is Vast
2: Acacia Crown
3: Caveat Lector
4: _t______m B__e_
Guessed letters: D I N R A T B E F M
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McStine & Minnemann
Your Offensives
Top Of The Bucket
Tear The Walls Down (No Memories)
Activate
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Fireproven
The Tower
New Born Truth
As Above, So Below
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Deus Ex Machina
Interesting, the video I was sent says "Deux Ex Machina", but after looking it up it does indeed say "Deus Ex Machina". I guess it was a typo?
Yeah, very likely a typo on my part
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Gimme an M
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Gimme Gimme Gimme an M after midnight!
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:loser:
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:loser:
:)
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loser was not one of the ayreon songs sent
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loser was not one of the ayreon songs sent
Drat!
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Hangman updated.
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I actually considered sending Loser instead of Valley of the Queens, but decided against it as Loser doesn't represent Ayreon sound as well as that song.
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Soundgarden is
Outshined
My Wave
Like Suicide
Burden in my Hand
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I actually considered sending Loser instead of Valley of the Queens, but decided against it as Loser doesn't represent Ayreon sound as well as that song.
yeah but it's like way better than friggin' valley of the friggin' queens
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Soundgarden is
Outshined
My Wave
Like Suicide
Burden in my Hand
Yep. Thank you.
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Soundgarden is
Outshined
My Wave
Like Suicide
Burden in my Hand
Yep. Thank you.
Good choices!
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I actually considered sending Loser instead of Valley of the Queens, but decided against it as Loser doesn't represent Ayreon sound as well as that song.
yeah but it's like way better than friggin' valley of the friggin' queens
I mean that's true, maybe I should've sent that but honestly whatever
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i've learned by now that revenge is pretty easily pleased by Loud Metal, at least if my scores thus far are any indication :lol
though his impression said he liked it anyways so w/e probably still gonna get a good score there
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i've learned by now that revenge is pretty easily pleased by Loud Metal, at least if my scores thus far are any indication :lol
Regarding the previous three rounds, I am surprised at how much I've been liking that kind of stuff! Probably has to do with my enjoyment of Between the Buried and Me, but a couple years ago, I never would've guessed that I'd enjoy stuff like East of the Wall or Exist.
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but the question is do you enjoy a novelist :neverusethis:
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but the question is do you enjoy a novelist :neverusethis:
The answer to that question is [DATA EXPUNGED]
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I enjoy a novelist. In fact, I enjoy a lot of novelists, not just one!
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Status update: I'm in the process of rating songs now. It'll be a while before I can properly rate some artists, though, but the process should go smoothly enough.
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Nice
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Status update: Now, I can't guarantee this, but some results may be ready within the next two days... which I find somewhat impressive considering one specific artist has taken up at least 80% of my listening time.
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Glad you're enjoying Ulver! They have an amazing back catalogue!
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Gotta finish the hangman before results come! I'd love to finish guessing who sent what, but no one's outed me yet and I don't want to just give it away.
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I mean you sent Blind Guardian, didn't you?
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Mine has a new album out this week so you better catch up if you haven’t heard the first one yet.
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I mean you sent Blind Guardian, didn't you?
Yeah, I thought it was pretty obvious, but no one guessed it!
Remaining artists are:
Mastodon
Fireproven
McStine & Minnemann
People are:
HOF
Luoto
romdrums
I see from the thread on the front page that McStine & Minnemann have a new album this week, so that's HOF.
I'm going to guess Luoto is Mastodon and romdrums is Fireproven, and if I'm wrong then we'll know anyway!
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I'm going to guess Luoto is Mastodon and romdrums is Fireproven, and if I'm wrong then we'll know anyway!
Oooh, that's a smart move... Incidentally, you were wrong, but as a result there can only be one other outcome. So by process of elimination, all players have been revealed!
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I'm in the process of writing the first-third of results, so hopefully they should be out sometime today or tomorrow.
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Well, glad I was able to get at least this first part of the results out sooner than Round 3’s first results.
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Nekov
Pure Reason Revolution
First impression: Somewhat hit-or-miss for me at the moment.
Final review: So after giving this group a fair amount of listens, I think it’s still kind of hit-or-miss for me. Fortunately, there’s more hits than misses. I think this band has a pretty good sound to them, though in execution the results are mixed for me. Let’s start with a positive: “The Twyncyn / Trembilin Willows” is my favorite song here, and by a pretty sizable margin. It has this cool, almost mysterious atmosphere, and the male vocals add a lot to it. The female vocals are good, too, and I think they work better as backing vocals rather than lead vocals like they are on some other songs. There’s one part I particularly enjoyed at about three minutes in, where it gets quiet and there’s just vocals, but then it transitions into this heavy, almost intense guitar riff, and then there’s some fast-paced singing… It’s really cool. Moving onto another song… “Deus Ex Machina” isn’t all that good. Not bad by any means, the music’s at least good, but there’s something kind of annoying about it. Probably the lyrics, or maybe more specifically that the singer pronounces “machina” wrong. Now, I’m not one who should be criticizing the mispronunciation of words (it took me way too long to pronounce some really easy words correctly), but considering how many times the phrase “deus ex machina” is said, it gets on my nerves after a while. But that song is really the only one I’ve got any issues with. I don’t have much to say about the other songs here, but they’re generally enjoyable from start to finish. If they’ve got more songs like The Twyncyn / Trembilin Willows, I’d be interested in checking them out further, but I can nonetheless say this artist is pretty good overall.
Bullitts Dominae - 7.5/10
The Twyncyn / Trembilin Willows - 8.75/10
Deus Ex Machina - 6.75/10
Maelstrom - 7.25/10
Roulette score: 7.6
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HOF
McStine & Minnemann
First impression: Some cool moments here and there, but overall it's just alright.
Final review: I don’t want to make this review underwhelming, but my first impression really is just about the best way I can describe this one. The songs have mostly grown on me, but they’re not anything I’d call special. There’s a lot of ideas here that sound really good (the ones that immediately comes to mind is the intro to “Top of the Bucket” and the guitar solo in “Tear the Walls Down (No Memories)”, but there’s definitely others), but when everything comes together it’s not really anything special. “Your Offenses” sounds nice and comes close to being a song I’d call great, but there’s just not enough that truly works for me. That being said, there’s not really anything here that outright doesn’t work. The only thing I thought was weird was this woman laughing (or crying? I can’t tell) at the end of Tear the Walls Down. There’s probably a reason for it, but it just sounds a little uncomfortable more than anything. I think if they developed the more interesting ideas or improved the songwriting, I could find these guys more than just “good”. Or maybe they’re simply not for me. Maybe I’ll check out that album they’re releasing this week and see if the sequel is an improvement.
Your Offenses - 7.75/10
Top of the Bucket - 7.5/10
Tear the Walls Down (No Memories) - 7/10
Activate - 7.5/10
Roulette score: 7.4
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jingle.boy
AC/DC
First impression: This sure takes me back to when I was younger... and surprisingly, I think it still holds up!
Final review: A bit of backstory before I get into discussing these particular songs… I believe I’ve mentioned before that when I was younger, my parents would usually listen to stuff that was modern at the time. But they did play some old/classic stuff, and AC/DC was one of the classic bands they’d play. I don’t remember much of the songs they played (though I think Hells Bells was one of them), but one song that really stuck out to me was Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap. For a while, I loved that song. And I think I mostly enjoyed the other songs I heard from them, so in a way, AC/DC was kind of my introduction to appreciating music. So once I was sent these songs and gave them a listen, I was actually really surprised to find that I still enjoy this stuff. Now, I don’t recognize any of these songs (aside from Hells Bells, but it’s been so many years since I heard it), but I genuinely enjoy these songs. “For Those About to Rock” is a fun anthemic song that, while I do wonder if it’s a bit overlong, at the same time I can only imagine how fun this would be at a concert. Taking the song into that context, I enjoy it a little more than I already do. “Highway to Hell” is rather cheesy, but it’s so catchy and upbeat that I honestly get a smile on my face when I hear the chorus of this song. I’m just overall surprised at how much I like this band today. Not that it’s one of my favorites, but considering my musical tastes and standards nowadays, I was somewhat expecting this to be a band on the level of KISS, if not worse. So this was a pleasant surprise, to be sure. I can even see myself coming back to these songs every once in a while.
Hells Bells - 8/10
For Those About To Rock (We Salute You) - 8/10
Problem Child - 7.5/10
Highway To Hell - 8/10
Roulette score: 7.9
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Stadler
Rainbow
First impression: Of all the classic rock bands I've been sent, this one's probably the most in-the-middle for me.
Final review: These classic rock types of bands are always interesting to me. While for the most part, I don’t find them to be one of my favorites, I think it’s cool to be able to hear music made long before my time. And what’s even better than that? Hearing classic rock that I find really good! Now, my first impression still holds up to some extent; it’s a bit like my scoring for Deep Purple, in that there’s one song I really enjoy, and the other two songs are just good. It’s more drastic than that, though. The two “good” songs are a little less good, but the one great song is really great. And let’s start with that really great song, “Stargazer”. The only thing I can really complain about is that there’s this really awesome, fast-paced intro, but then once the main riff comes in there’s nothing like that for the rest of the song. Pretty great way to open the song regardless, though. As for the rest of the song, it’s simply great rock, but there’s a grand, almost symphonic element to it. The vocals are very good, as well. If they’ve got more songs like this, I would very much like to check them out! Now, on to the other two songs… “Fire Dance” is pretty good. It’s nothing too special, it’s just got some interesting instrumentation going on. And then there’s “All Night Long”... The lyrics don’t bother me that much, but they’re still a bit weird to me. “Don’t know about your brain, but you look alright” Glad this guy’s got his priorities straight… But aside from that, as well as an awkward intro, the song’s not bad at all. It’s pretty catchy, in fact. I’m definitely most interested in more potential songs like Stargazer, but I think Rainbow might be worth looking into even if they don’t.
Stargazer - 8.75/10
All Night Long - 7.25/10
Fire Dance - 7.75/10
Roulette score: 7.9
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Buddyhunter1
Anamanaguchi
First impression: This... This is the GOOD STUFF.
Final review: That’s probably the most excited I’ve sounded in a first impression (aside from maybe my impression of Devin Townsend), but… Actually, I think some of that excitement has gone away. That’s not to say I don’t like Anamanaguchi now, because I still do enjoy this artist. What I mean is that the first time I listened to these songs, I expected at least three of these to score a 9/10 or higher. So a little bit of the luster of this music has been lost, but I still very much enjoy it overall. If nothing else, this is one of the most consistent submissions this round in terms of its quality. Anyway, on to the songs themselves... It’s hard to pick a favorite, because I like all of these songs about the same. But I suppose the most standout song is “Endless Fantasy”. All of these songs have a retro video game aesthetic, and this one in particular has a very retro feel to it. It’s mixed together with modern electronic sound, in a way that it wouldn’t feel out of place in VVVVVV’s OST. And that game has a great soundtrack, so that is certainly a compliment. I do like the more modern side of the electronic sound, though as a result, the composer does make use of a couple things I don’t particularly care for, like using voices as sound effects (or at least using sound effects that sound like voices). It just sounds awkward to me, but at least whenever they’re used here, it’s not enough to really detract from my enjoyment of the song… which is a bit surprising to me, because it sounds especially jarring at the beginning of “We Die”, but if I had to choose a favorite, it might be We Die (if not Endless Fantasy). I really like the overall sound of Anamanaguchi, and I think it’s likely I’ll find nothing but good things if I go deeper into their discography.
Endless Fantasy - 8.25/10
Sunset By Plane - 8.25/10
Air On Line - 8/10
We Die - 8.25/10
Roulette score: 8.2
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Cyril
A Novelist
First impression: It's about what I expected, yet it's quite different than I expected. Nonetheless, I like it!
Final review: At this point, I am beginning to suspect that there is a conspiracy going on to alienate the masses from really good music, and Cyril is a sort of prophet who is spreading the truth… Only joking! But if that wasn’t any indication, I have enjoyed yet another one of Cyril’s submissions. Here’s the thing about A Novelist that I find different from East of the Wall and Exist, though… With those two bands, I can understand why people might not like them. East of the Wall has a very unusual style of harsh vocals, and Exist might be a little too much for some people, despite their more melodic instrumentals. But with A Novelist… Sure, sometimes the vocals can be rather ugly (of all of Cyril’s submissions, these are probably my least favorite vocals), but if you look past that… I think the stuff these guys do is really great in just about every aspect. I mentioned that these are my least favorite vocals of Cyril’s submissions, but I still like them. The clean vocals have some really good moments, and oddly enough I found myself liking the harsh vocals at their most extreme. Instrumentally, it’s mostly the normal kind of stuff you’d expect from a death metal band; the intro to “His Kingdom Is Vast” does sound like an intro I’ve heard before in some other song somewhere. But notice how I said “mostly” normal. That’s because there’s something more unique this band does here… There’s a lot of usage of saxophones and woodwind instruments. Now, in a band that isn’t symphonic metal, that’d easily come across as overly bombastic and/or too gimmicky, but this band really makes it work. It’s more subtle, but never to the point where it feels like they’re not really needed. This makes quite a few parts of these songs really stand out, and they sound really great with the inclusion of these instruments. The most standout moment is easily the first minute or so of “Caveat Lector”, which is my favorite song of the bunch. Say what you will about the rest of the song, but the combination of the guitar, saxophone, and keyboard here makes for an amazing instrumental intro. I’m just so impressed by this band. If I had to choose whether this or East of the Wall is better, I’d go with East of the Wall, but A Novelist is not far behind. I absolutely want to listen to the entirety of “Folie”. I’ll probably do that after I finish writing this.
His Kingdom Is Vast - 8.5/10
Acacia Crown - 8.75/10
Caveat Lector - 9/10
Stockholm Blues - 8.5/10
Roulette score: 8.7
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I can’t say for sure when the rest of the results will be ready, but I’m working on scoring them still, and hopefully the next part of results won’t take too long.
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Ah, man, I thought you’d like the McStine & Minnemann a little more than that. To me the hooks and songwriting are great. Short, catchy, but also lots of interesting playing. A different approach to prog (if you want to call it that). Still probably my favorite album released this year.
And now I see they didn’t top AC/DC!
Seriously though, check out the whole album if you get a chance. It’s only about 35-40 minutes long.
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my parents would usually listen to stuff that was modern at the time. But they did play some old/classic stuff, and AC/DC was one of the classic bands they’d play.
So AC/DC - a band I grew up with mostly in real time - is "classic" to your PARENTS? Honey, get my walker, I need to have a word with this kid! :) :) :)
I’m just overall surprised at how much I like this band today. Not that it’s one of my favorites, but considering my musical tastes and standards nowadays, I was somewhat expecting this to be a band on the level of KISS, if not worse.
Wait, what? Honey!!!!!!
(Revenge, I'm totally kidding!)
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my parents would usually listen to stuff that was modern at the time. But they did play some old/classic stuff, and AC/DC was one of the classic bands they’d play.
So AC/DC - a band I grew up with mostly in real time - is "classic" to your PARENTS? Honey, get my walker, I need to have a word with this kid! :) :) :)
I’m just overall surprised at how much I like this band today. Not that it’s one of my favorites, but considering my musical tastes and standards nowadays, I was somewhat expecting this to be a band on the level of KISS, if not worse.
Wait, what? Honey!!!!!!
(Revenge, I'm totally kidding!)
:lol
Well, I think in the 2000s (and especially now in 2020), it'd be reasonable to call AC/DC "classic", at least as opposed to calling them "modern". Certainly interesting to hear your perspective on it, though! :)
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I think you'd like Endless Fantasy (the album) - it's pretty bloated but it leans more into the traditional video game sound and has less weird sampling / noises. [USA] is my favorite though, so give it at least one listen!
Also, before you count Pure Reason Revolution out, give the songs Silent Genesis and Ghosts And Typhoons a listen. As I said earlier, their latest album is great, and Maelstrom is one of the least interesting songs on it.
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Ah, man, I thought you’d like the McStine & Minnemann a little more than that. To me the hooks and songwriting are great. Short, catchy, but also lots of interesting playing. A different approach to prog (if you want to call it that). Still probably my favorite album released this year.
And now I see they didn’t top AC/DC!
Seriously though, check out the whole album if you get a chance. It’s only about 35-40 minutes long.
Alright, I may as well check 'em out. If my observation about them at least having a lot of good ideas is something that permeates throughout the album, maybe I will find something I really like!
I think you'd like Endless Fantasy (the album) - it's pretty bloated but it leans more into the traditional video game sound and has less weird sampling / noises. [USA] is my favorite though, so give it at least one listen!
Also, before you count Pure Reason Revolution out, give the songs Silent Genesis and Ghosts And Typhoons a listen. As I said earlier, their latest album is great, and Maelstrom is one of the least interesting songs on it.
I'll keep those recommendations in mind, both for Anamanaguchi and Pure Reason Revolution.
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hmm. at this point, i might hold my ground with the last one then, just for kicks. i still think it's so fundamentally different from everything i've sent so far that you won't like it though. i'll think about it :lol
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hmm. at this point, i might hold my ground with the last one then, just for kicks. i still think it's so fundamentally different from everything i've sent so far that you won't like it though. i'll think about it :lol
He liked A Novelist, I don't think you can go wrong! :neverusethis:
I kid, though you have proven he has a greater capacity for heavy music than I was expecting. I might have to factor that into who I send for the final round.
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my goal was to see how far i could push it before needing to tone it back and my prediction was that this would be the one that was too far between how aggro they are + how often they use dissonance in their sound
turns out it was not too far :lol
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If Stads had sent only Stargazer and Gates of Babylon, he would've been golden 100%.
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my goal was to see how far i could push it before needing to tone it back and my prediction was that this would be the one that was too far between how aggro they are + how often they use dissonance in their sound
turns out it was not too far :lol
Send Warforged
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Well, I knew it was a somewhat risky submission. I'd recommend you listen to the first and last albums of the band. The first one works a lot better as a whole than by single songs. The two in the middle are a different beast with songs that are similar to Deus ex Machina. I get what you say about the pronunciation, I threw me off the first time I listened to it. However, I think he had to push it so that he could sing in and not break the rhythm or the melody.
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my goal was to see how far i could push it before needing to tone it back and my prediction was that this would be the one that was too far between how aggro they are + how often they use dissonance in their sound
turns out it was not too far :lol
Send Warforged
nah i don't like that to quite the same degree as the stuff i've been sending, even if it's very good
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At this point, I am beginning to suspect that there is a conspiracy going on to alienate the masses from really good music, and Cyril is a sort of prophet who is spreading the truth… Only joking!
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the holy guide of the 4/10
to be fair everything i've sent so far is off albums i'd call 5*, 9.5+/10 albums save for exist, which is a 4.5*, 9/10 album which would be 5*s if Vessel didn't exist or was shorter
on top of it feeling out of place it also lost me a roulette, so i'm kinda mad at it forever now :getoffmylawn:
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Lol I knew the All Night Long lyrics were going to get dinged :biggrin:
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If Stads had sent only Stargazer and Gates of Babylon, he would've been golden 100%.
Pretty much!! :)
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The chances that Mastodon are the band you've been obsessed with just increased substantially...
*whale hunting intensifies*
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The chances that Mastodon are the band you've been obsessed with just increased substantially...
*whale hunting intensifies*
:metal
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Status update: Results 2/3 should hopefully be here soon-ish, I'm just trying to figure out how to convey my thoughts on a couple artists.
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I know one artist you can convey with a big red 10! ;D
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I know one artist you can convey with a big red 10! ;D
Yep, that's right!!
Dream Theater, of course. ;)
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Tim loves a "Big Red 10" I'd bet.
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Tim loves a "Big Black 10" I'd bet.
Fixed that for Tim.
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:corn
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Tim loves a "Big Black 10" I'd bet.
Fixed that for Tim.
Either way he's.......
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What are you guys doing?? :lol
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Oh you know. Giving it to you.
The business.
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I think we've been bamboozled and hoodwinked! :corn
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I think we've been bamboozled and hoodwinked! :corn
"Soon-ish" was a bit vague... I should've been more specific. My plan was to get these out either today or tomorrow. Most likely it'll be tomorrow, but depending on how much I feel like being useful for once, it could be today. I've already got one writeup finished, just gotta get to the rest.
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I think we've been bamboozled and hoodwinked! :corn
"Soon-ish" was a bit vague... I should've been more specific. My plan was to get these out either today or tomorrow. Most likely it'll be tomorrow, but depending on how much I feel like being useful for once, it could be today. I've already got one writeup finished, just gotta get to the rest.
Balderdash!! :lol
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More Round 4 results.
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TAC
Fates Warning
First impression: Pretty good stuff. Strange, I thought they had a "z" in their name…
Final review: Alright, I need to do a better job at these hints in my first impression; between this and the Spock’s Beard hint, I think I’m making it look like I don’t know some obvious things… I do know the whole story behind “Fatez Warning” appearing on the credits of Images & Words, so sorry if I worried you or anything, TAC. Anyway, onto Fates Warning… They’ve taken some time to grow on me, but I think they’re quite good indeed. Compared to Queensrÿche and Dream Theater, their music is softer, but it still has that progressive metal feel to them, and there are some heavy and energetic parts in the music. The intro to “Nothing Left to Say” showcases that metal side very well. It’s a two-minute instrumental intro before the vocals come in, and there’s a lot to enjoy in that time. That’s not to say the rest of the song is bad, either. I quite like the softer parts, and I think Fates Warning works really well when trying to fuse those two elements together… which they usually end up doing, so that’s good. Of the two songs, I think I prefer Nothing Left to Say. “The Light and Shade of Things” is pretty good, too, but based on some comments earlier in this thread, it seems people generally love this song. And I personally don’t get the hype, but I can say it’s a good song… just not that good. The chorus is pretty great, but there’s not much else that really stands out to me. I'd be willing to give more songs from these guys a shot, though; I quite like their sound overall.
Nothing Left to Say - 8/10
The Light and Shade of Things - 7.75/10
Roulette score: 7.9
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Anguyen92
Soundgarden
First impression: Not sure how much I like this particular style, but this is alright.
Final review: Well… I’ll get one thing out the way right here: If after reading this, you wish to send something completely different from your previous submissions next round, Anguyen92, I don’t blame you. Now, before I make it sound like I hated this or something, I do want to clarify this, as well: I consider Soundgarden to be a better submission than both Switchfoot and Black Stone Cherry, so in terms of Anguyen92’s line of submissions, this is a step in the right direction. I guess I’m just not particularly fond of this style of music, even though I can’t shake the feeling that there’s something that I’d really enjoy. Although if you were to put Alter Bridge in the same general category as something like Switchfoot, maybe that’s the one band I need to explore, because I did enjoy that one… Okay, I should get to the songs themselves now. I do enjoy these songs, but they never seem to go beyond the level of “pretty good” for me. I think the most consistently good song is “My Wave”. It’s got a nice energy to it, it’s instrumentally interesting throughout, and while the lyrics aren’t anything too great, they don’t bother me much. There are some awkward lyrics here and there in a couple other songs, but not so much here. “Like Suicide” is kind of interesting… The lyrics are supposed to be really poetic, I feel, but it comes across as kind of weird. Although if the song’s about what I think it’s about (killing a bird to put it out of its misery), I suppose that only makes sense that it has that blend of poetry and awkwardness. “Burden In My Hand” is another one of the better songs, mainly because of this more “uplifting” aesthetic it has to it. Lyrically, it’s more on the human/depressing side; not that it’s a problem, just that it contrasts the more upbeat music. Soundgarden’s style of music certainly isn’t the type I’m used to, but it has been at least somewhat interesting giving something like this a shot.
Outshined - 7.5/10
My Wave - 7.75/10
Like Suicide - 7.5/10
Burden In My Hand - 7.75/10
Roulette score: 7.6
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Puppies_On_Acid
Arch / Matheos
First impression: I'm gonna need more listens to see if this does anything for me.
Final review: This one is… a very hard one to discuss. All the elements of this band are done very well, and it certainly seems like the kind of music I should really be into. Like, thinking about its various qualities, there’s not really anything that I could complain about (except maybe “Kindred Spirits” going on for a bit too long). The music is well-composed, it sounds good to listen to, the vocals are good and suit the music well... There really isn’t anything I can think of that this group doesn’t do well. But unfortunately, Arch / Matheos just doesn’t do anything for me. There’s some interesting stuff here and there, and I don’t not enjoy this music, but I guess I only like it on a superficial level. And I wouldn’t say this is the same problem that I had with The Ocean back in Round 1; with that band, I know I’ll probably enjoy them a lot given time, their music is just so dense that it’ll take a lot of time to really digest it all. I don’t get that feeling here; this band here just does nothing for me. It is a shame... I feel like if it clicked with me, that I’d really like it. Who knows, maybe in the future I’ll come back to these songs and I might finally “get” them. But for now, the only thing I really like from this group just come from the more objective qualities about them; so I guess this is an example of a band that I respect more than I personally enjoy.
Vermilion Moons - 7.5/10
Wrath of the Universe - 7.75/10
Tethered - 7.5/10
Kindred Spirits - 7/10
Roulette score: 7.4
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Lethean
Threshold
First impression: For the most part, I don't think the vocals go too well with the music.
Final review: The vocals are what I have the most to say about, so I’ll get that out of the way first (though I’ll probably end up talking about all the other elements I want to get to anyway). Ever since my first listening, the vocals have grown on me. I just think that in some songs, a different vocalist, or at least a different vocal style, may have been more fitting with the music. “Light and Space” and “Phenomenon” are consistently on the heavier side, and I think the softer vocal style might not be the best choice. It’s not even that I think the singer’s bad, I think on its own, his voice is pretty great! It’s just not particularly suitable for the music here… which is why “Pilot in the Sky of Dreams” is really good. It’s more melodic in comparison to the other songs (at least when there’s singing), so the vocals truly shine here. That being said, the other songs are still pretty enjoyable. “Pressure” leans into that heavier side a lot, but it’s a fun song nonetheless, and my favorite parts actually tend to be the vocals. I’ve talked a lot about the vocals, but what about the instrumentation? It’s really good. Light and Space has a great intro, and there’s various parts of Phenomenon and Pilot in the Sky of Dreams that are very enjoyable. The last song here, “Snowblind”, is good as well. There’s a new vocalist on this one, as the old vocalist, Andrew McDermott, is now… gone… but he sounds just as good, and his voice and style of singing is pretty similar, too. So I was a bit conflicted on the vocals at first, but they’ve grown on me and I can safely say that Threshold is a rather enjoyable band.
Light and Space - 8/10
Phenomenon - 8/10
Pressure - 8.25/10
Pilot in the Sky of Dreams - 8.5/10
Snowblind - 8.25/10
Roulette score: 8.2
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Luoto
Fireproven
First impression: Advanced proggy Amorphis.
Final review: Yeah, I don’t know what exactly I was thinking the first time I listened to these guys. There are some traits they have in common with Amorphis, but they’re a lot more different than I first thought. That being said, I would classify Fireproven as “advanced” and “proggy” at least! “The Tower” is a bit different from the other songs, in that it’s a softer, more symphonic song. There’s still some metal aspects, though, especially with the harsh vocals. It’s quite a good song, but the really good stuff lies within the songs from “Omnipresence”. It leans towards a much more metal side, but there’s a lot of moments with the keyboards that really add a lot to the songs. I also really like the darker mood these songs have. My favorite is “New Born Truth”, which has a really great intro, especially with how it leads into the first verse. Overall, it’s very enjoyable. “As Above, So Below” kind of feels like more of the same, though it’s not quite as great as New Born Truth. It does have a cool keyboard solo around halfway through the song, though. I like the three songs from Omnipresence, and I think Fireproven’s other stuff would be worth checking out if their music is generally this good (or better).
The Tower - 8/10
New Born Truth - 8.5/10
As Above, So Below - 8/10
18 Hells - 8/10
Roulette score: 8.1
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kingshmegland
Barock Project
First impression: Adding this to the list of artists that were a lot better than I expected.
Final review: I should’ve known better at this point than to not expect much from a kingshmegland submission. Have Rush and Mile Marker Zero taught me nothing? Now, of these three bands, this one would be my “least” favorite, but that’s not saying much, because I really like this band. I think what really stands out to me about the music these guys make is that it generally just has this positive, happy vibe to it. In a lot of situations, I could listen to this and it’d lift my spirits, even if just a little bit. And I quite appreciate that in music, as it’s seemingly uncommon these days. The only other thing I can think of that’s consistently uplifting is the Haken album “The Mountain”. Going back to Barock Project, though, my favorite is a tie between “Gold” and “Ashes”, though if I had to pick one it’d be Gold. It has more of that positive energy I enjoy so much, and there’s not really a single part of the song I don’t enjoy (even if the vocal-only intro is slightly underwhelming). Probably the best part is around 5 minutes in, where there’s a constant tradeoff between the guitar and some kind of brass instrument, and then the quieter piano section after is lovely as well. Ashes has a little less of that uplifting mood, but it’s there in places (like that awesome fast-paced piano solo and the guitar/bass section that follows right after it), and the more “serious” mood (for lack of a better word) works just fine. The other songs are quite enjoyable, too, though I don’t have much to say about those (although “I Call Your Name” has a lot of really pleasant vocal parts). I very much want to listen to more of this band, I think this band is just pleasant in both its style and its quality.
I Call Your Name - 8/10
Gold - 8.5/10
Ashes - 8.5/10
Happy To See You - 8.25/10
Roulette score: 8.3
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The last batch of results will hopefully come sooner than later, though I’ll be honest, a couple of these writeups will be pretty hard to make, so I hope I don’t end up keeping everyone waiting for too long.
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Well if the band you're obsessed with ain't Mastodon (although I'm fairly certain it is), I hope it's Portishead :heart
I'd have sent Wandering Star as one of my four songs though!
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Well if the band you're obsessed with ain't Mastodon (although I'm fairly certain it is), I hope it's Portishead :heart
I'd have sent Wandering Star as one of my four songs though!
Let's hope it is! I almost sent that one but preferred to go with a more varied selection from their other albums.
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Can't complain at all! Glad you liked it.
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Well if the band you're obsessed with ain't Mastodon (although I'm fairly certain it is), I hope it's Portishead :heart
I'd have sent Wandering Star as one of my four songs though!
Let's hope it is! I almost sent that one but preferred to go with a more varied selection from their other albums.
Yea that's fair, I didn't send my four fave Mastodon songs, I sent four of my faves that showcase all they have to offer
Also, fuck! Dummy has been part of my life for over 25 years! What an album. It takes me back to the mid nineties, staying up late at night to draw Wahammer 40k Space Marines, with my older brother, and exclusively listening to Dummy, Led Zeppelin I and Metallica's Black Album :hefdaddy
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Eww, those scores are disappoint.
Have I sent for the next round yet?
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All right, I've submitted round 5. After four rounds, I've decided not go with American Radio Hard Rock/Alt Rock (even from the 90s) for this one. I considered it and I had a lot of bands on my mind to pick, but ehhhh, I'm opted against it for once. So for round 5, I'm taking this outside of NA.
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The plot thickens... by my reckoning, the extra special artist is one of:
Ayreon
Blind Guardian
Conception
Mastodon
Portishead
Ulver
And from the top 5 songs thread, it seems like two of the songs from this round are potentially among Revenge's favorite songs of all time. Very interesting...
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And from the top 5 songs thread, it seems like two of the songs from this round are potentially among Revenge's favorite songs of all time. Very interesting...
nah it's this
Nope (although I certainly love Haken as well). [REDACTED] is something I've never talked about before on this forum. I mean, I guess there's that secret message I hid somewhere, but considering how fast people here can complete a Hangman, they'll easily figure out a secret message if they know about it.
Oh, wait, did I say that out loud...?
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True, good call.
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Sent for round 5. Taking a calculated risk.....again :corn
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Glad you enjoyed Threshold. :) How was the length of the submission? I thought I might have been pushing it but there were so many songs that I wanted to send.
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Glad you enjoyed Threshold. :) How was the length of the submission? I thought I might have been pushing it but there were so many songs that I wanted to send.
I wouldn't worry too much about that. My round 5 submission is 40 minutes...... :lol But I'll be damned if I don't go out in a blaze of glory!
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Oh well, glad I didn't send Arch/Matheos then. :biggrin:
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Oh well, glad I didn't send Arch/Matheos then. :biggrin:
I took that bullet for you buddy :marriageanalogy:
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Have I sent for the next round yet?
No, not yet.
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The plot thickens... by my reckoning, the extra special artist is one of:
Ayreon
Blind Guardian
Conception
Mastodon
Portishead
Ulver
And from the top 5 songs thread, it seems like two of the songs from this round are potentially among Revenge's favorite songs of all time. Very interesting...
Oh, no, that song I mentioned earlier in this thread was potentially my favorite song in just the whole roulette (which by the way, that song I was talking about actually got overshadowed by one or two others but is still easily one of the best in this whole roulette). The stuff I was talking about in the "Top 5 songs of all time" thread was talking about something unrelated. Cyril was correct when mentioning it to you, but I thought I'd also clarify this myself.
But speaking of all-time favorites, I will say this, though... It's not from this round, but there is one song from this roulette that I'd score a lot higher now than I did when I scored it for results. And it already got a rather good score. I'll reveal that at a later date...
Glad you enjoyed Threshold. :) How was the length of the submission? I thought I might have been pushing it but there were so many songs that I wanted to send.
The submission length wasn't bad at all. It only came to about 32 minutes, which is around the average submission length I tend to get.
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So when are Mastodon getting all the 10/10s then?
In regards to the artist you are reluctant to reveal, is it because you are embarrassed about it? Because you shouldn't be! You've seen some of the trash that some people on this forum listen to :neverusethis:
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Lol I knew the All Night Long lyrics were going to get dinged :biggrin:
Knowing Roger Glover (a die-hard hippie from the 60's) I always assumed they were meant to be funny, written in a time when jokes were made like that, but while the riff is even better than ever, those lyrics are tough to listen to. And live versions are even worse (Graham Bonnet typically ad-libbed them to be even more crass).
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So when are Mastodon getting all the 10/10s then?
In regards to the artist you are reluctant to reveal, is it because you are embarrassed about it? Because you shouldn't be! You've seen some of the trash that some people on this forum listen to :neverusethis:
I won't comment about that first question about Mastodon, you'll have to wait and see what happens there. :-X
As for your other question, it's not so much that I'm embarrassed about it, but rather it's that I don't want to risk being ostracized by people here for it. I mean, I can trust that at least a majority of the forum wouldn't shun me for it, but I'm just naturally scared to bring it up... Mainly because people have put me down for it before.
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As for your other question, it's not so much that I'm embarrassed about it, but rather it's that I don't want to risk being ostracized by people here for it. I mean, I can trust that at least a majority of the forum wouldn't shun me for it, but I'm just naturally scared to bring it up... Mainly because people have put me down for it before.
and people haven't put you down for liking Dream Theater before? :lol
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Dude I flaunt how big a Britney Spears fan I am and regularly shit on prog and metal on this forum. Let your freak flag fly
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Yeah, I mean, I don't want to encourage you to drop the kimono only for you to get abuse, but I'm with Mike on this. I have no "guilty pleasures"; I like what I like, and if someone doesn't like that, they can blow me. I'm an unabashed Kiss fan, with no apologies. I love the two Harry Styles solo albums (and even saw him live in MSG on his last tour), and I'm growing in my admiration of Taylor Swift. I'm also unapologetic about my love for country, particularly outlaw country (Waylon Jennings is as good a singer/guitar player as anyone in the prog genre, IMO. He just plays a different kind of music).
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Dude I flaunt how big a Britney Spears fan I am and regularly shit on prog and metal on this forum. Let your freak flag fly
What Walrus said!
I mean, no pressure, and it sucks that people have made you feel bad about music you like, but I think you're probably aware it's not like that around here (unless in obvious jest). I mean there are people on here who like Ed Sheeran, but I still wouldn't ostracize them.
Fuck the haters! Weathered by Creed is one of my all time favourite albums and I think Iron Maiden and Rush are overrated.
I'm just really curious at this point.
It's not Ed Sheeran is it?! :lol
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As for your other question, it's not so much that I'm embarrassed about it, but rather it's that I don't want to risk being ostracized by people here for it. I mean, I can trust that at least a majority of the forum wouldn't shun me for it, but I'm just naturally scared to bring it up... Mainly because people have put me down for it before.
and people haven't put you down for liking Dream Theater before? :lol
Not that I can recall! :lol
Though now that you mention it, it is surprising that I haven't been in that situation when it comes to Dream Theater.
Dude I flaunt how big a Britney Spears fan I am and regularly shit on prog and metal on this forum. Let your freak flag fly
Yeah, I mean, I don't want to encourage you to drop the kimono only for you to get abuse, but I'm with Mike on this. I have no "guilty pleasures"; I like what I like, and if someone doesn't like that, they can blow me. I'm an unabashed Kiss fan, with no apologies. I love the two Harry Styles solo albums (and even saw him live in MSG on his last tour), and I'm growing in my admiration of Taylor Swift. I'm also unapologetic about my love for country, particularly outlaw country (Waylon Jennings is as good a singer/guitar player as anyone in the prog genre, IMO. He just plays a different kind of music).
Fair enough! I know I might be coming across as dramatic here, and maybe I am, but I've always been nervous about this kind of stuff.
What Walrus said!
I mean, no pressure, and it sucks that people have made you feel bad about music you like, but I think you're probably aware it's not like that around here (unless in obvious jest). I mean there are people on here who like Ed Sheeran, but I still wouldn't ostracize them.
Fuck the haters! Weathered by Creed is one of my all time favourite albums and I think Iron Maiden and Rush are overrated.
I'm just really curious at this point.
It's not Ed Sheeran is it?! :lol
Nah, not him. It'd be kinda funny if it was, though, eh? :lol
And yeah, I've become aware that people aren't like that on this forum, which I think is really nice.
Well, you guys have encouraged me enough that I will definitely reveal this someday soon. Again, sorry if I'm coming across as overly dramatic or something, I'm not trying to be.
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Dude I flaunt how big a Britney Spears fan I am and regularly shit on prog and metal on this forum. Let your freak flag fly
What Walrus said!
I mean, no pressure, and it sucks that people have made you feel bad about music you like, but I think you're probably aware it's not like that around here (unless in obvious jest). I mean there are people on here who like Ed Sheeran, but I still wouldn't ostracize them.
Fuck the haters! Weathered by Creed is one of my all time favourite albums and I think Iron Maiden and Rush are overrated.
I'm just really curious at this point.
It's not Ed Sheeran is it?! :lol
Loser.
:) :)
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I think Iron Maiden and Rush are overrated.
Um...
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...I can understand you not liking them, but Rush and Iron Maiden being overrated doesn't even make sense.
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Not to derail the thread but yes, I think they're overrated. I get that others like them. They are a big deal for metal breaking through to the mainstream and a gateway band for so many people. In another lifetime that would've been me, I'm sure. However, my gateway band was Metallica. They define what metal is, for me. It's almost like all the bands that came before were laying the groundwork and Metallica perfected it.
But let's not for a minute try to say that something being popular means it can't be thought of as overrated. To put what I'm saying into perspective, Baby Shark currently has 7.3 Billion views on YouTube.
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Not to derail the thread but yes, I think they're overrated. I get that others like them. They are a big deal for metal breaking through to the mainstream and a gateway band for so many people. In another lifetime that would've been me, I'm sure. However, my gateway band was Metallica they define what metal is, for me. It's almost like all the bands that came before were laying the groundwork and Metallica perfected it.
As the user Max Kuehnau once said, "it's the DTF Derailment Algorithm (TM)". :lol I don't mind at all! Results 3/3 is going pretty slowly, so if there's any time to go off-topic, it's at times like these.
It's always interesting hearing discussions about bands whose music I don't know, anyway. There's a lot of famous bands I've never heard a single song from, and if it weren't for this roulette, that'd include bands like Led Zeppelin, Queensrÿche, and KISS.
Well, I think I heard Stairway to Heaven once years ago, but I remember absolutely nothing about it.
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I look at Baby Shark like Cell Phones and Credit cards. My parents generation always have to have cash in their pockets and I don't. I use my CC and other items like DD apps for coffee or EZ Pass for tolls. My parents generation can't figure out cell phones to save their lives.
That's how I look at Baby Shark. :lol
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I don't even know WTF Baby Shark is. I've never heard of it.
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I don't even know WTF Baby Shark is. I've never heard of it.
I don't even know WTF EZ Pass is. I've never heard of it. See, just like our parents. :lol
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I don't even know WTF Baby Shark is. I've never heard of it.
TAC, do you have a keyboard macro that allows you to make this post about pretty much anything? Like, are you able hit Ctrl+Alt+T and you get: "I don't even know WTF _____ is. I've never heard of it." I swear that's like half of your post count. ;D :D ;) :lol
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I don't even know WTF Baby Shark is. I've never heard of it.
TAC, do you have a keyboard macro that allows you to make this post about pretty much anything? Like, are you able hit Ctrl+Alt+T and you get: "I don't even know WTF _____ is. I've never heard of it." I swear that's like half of your post count. ;D :D ;) :lol
The other half is "DTF is my Facebook!" posts. :lol
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I don't even know WTF Baby Shark is. I've never heard of it.
TAC, do you have a keyboard macro that allows you to make this post about pretty much anything? Like, are you able hit Ctrl+Alt+T and you get: "I don't even know WTF _____ is. I've never heard of it." I swear that's like half of your post count. ;D :D ;) :lol
The other half is "DTF is my Facebook!" posts. :lol
OMG, :rollin I am dying here!
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I don't even know WTF Baby Shark is. I've never heard of it.
If only there was some way you could find out?? ???
I worked in a residential children's home for over 3 years so I'm over familiar unfortunately
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Dude I flaunt how big a Britney Spears fan I am and regularly shit on prog and metal on this forum. Let your freak flag fly
Absolutely! Music exists for enjoyment. People are free to enjoy whatever they want. There's way too much good music out there, so don't limit your tastes based on what you think you should like.
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I'd never thought fans of Britney Spears as freaks. :lol
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Not to derail the thread but yes, I think they're overrated. I get that others like them. They are a big deal for metal breaking through to the mainstream and a gateway band for so many people. In another lifetime that would've been me, I'm sure. However, my gateway band was Metallica. They define what metal is, for me. It's almost like all the bands that came before were laying the groundwork and Metallica perfected it.
But let's not for a minute try to say that something being popular means it can't be thought of as overrated. To put what I'm saying into perspective, Baby Shark currently has 7.3 Billion views on YouTube.
I get the difference you're talking about (popularity), but I think it's more fundamental than that. I don't think there's a Metallica if there's not an Iron Maiden. Baby Shark is a pander and a sellout; Maiden did it with little compromise. Harris in particular steered that ship where he wanted it to go, full stop, and if you didn't like it - Paul, Bruce, Adrian - you were free to leave.
I think if anything, given their sort of underground status - NO awards show appearances, NO Super Bowl/event appearances, NO TV presence to speak of, NO "outside of music" presence to speak of (like Lars' Napster nonsense) - they are UNDERRATED if you really want to say it. They tour arenas and stadiums with no album release, just because.
(And in case no one got it, the "loser" above was a joke about ragging on someone for their musical tastes. It was purely in jest.)
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I get the difference you're talking about (popularity), but I think it's more fundamental than that. I don't think there's a Metallica if there's not an Iron Maiden. Baby Shark is a pander and a sellout; Maiden did it with little compromise. Harris in particular steered that ship where he wanted it to go, full stop, and if you didn't like it - Paul, Bruce, Adrian - you were free to leave.
I think if anything, given their sort of underground status - NO awards show appearances, NO Super Bowl/event appearances, NO TV presence to speak of, NO "outside of music" presence to speak of (like Lars' Napster nonsense) - they are UNDERRATED if you really want to say it. They tour arenas and stadiums with no album release, just because.
(And in case no one got it, the "loser" above was a joke about ragging on someone for their musical tastes. It was purely in jest.)
Dude, it's cool, I didn't take offense at the Loser thing, I knew you were joking. I was literally trying to reassure Revenge that it's ok to have your opinions on music, and voice them here. I'd have looked pretty silly if I'd have gotten all offended over someone taking the piss out of my opinion :lol
As for Maiden, I get it, they worked hard to get where they are and to be playing the arena shows, around the world, they play. Regardless of how they got there though, I still think they are overrated. There are artists selling our arenas like Maiden that haven't had the 'no compromise' attitude and have been promoted and had the media fully behind them. I would potentially find them equally as overrated as Maiden. This isn't really a discussion about how they got there.
Stads, I thought you (as someone who often loves the album or the song, that others shit on) would see where I'm coming from. If popularity negates whether an individual can think something is over or underrated, then everything (as it's viewed by the majority) is rated exactly as it should be. So that album or song you love and feel is underrated by the fan base? Nope it's not underrated, it's rated trash, exactly as the majority of the fanbase sees it. The popularity of it deems it so.
This may be the ramblings of a man who is currently functioning on very little sleep, but there is a coherent point here somewhere.
Lastly, my original comment was to show Revenge that it's ok to speak your mind on music, even if some people will massively disagree. I guess I was looking to voice some of my more controversial opinions, so went with dissing Maiden and Rush (I guess it worked). But it was all in the name of good old fashioned debate.
Love to you all :heart
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I don't even know WTF Baby Shark is. I've never heard of it.
TAC, do you have a keyboard macro that allows you to make this post about pretty much anything? Like, are you able hit Ctrl+Alt+T and you get: "I don't even know WTF _____ is. I've never heard of it." I swear that's like half of your post count. ;D :D ;) :lol
The other half is "DTF is my Facebook!" posts. :lol
:lol :lol
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The truth hurts when you laugh too hard.
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:lol
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I think if anything, given their sort of underground status - NO awards show appearances, NO Super Bowl/event appearances, NO TV presence to speak of, NO "outside of music" presence to speak of (like Lars' Napster nonsense) - they are UNDERRATED if you really want to say it. They tour arenas and stadiums with no album release, just because.
Speaking about that, here's one of the few examples of Iron Maiden doing a tv studio appearance and this is pretty funny. Only Adrian Smith is really taking the "miming" part seriously (probably out of professionalism and wanting to get this over with quickly) while everyone else, rightfully, is taking the piss out of it.
Iron Maiden - Wasted Years (Live German TV 1987) Rare (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuIol63oAmI)
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:corn
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Don't worry, I'm still working on it!
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Don't worry, I'm still working on it!
:corn :corn :corn
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Do what I do ... just stop caring.
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Status update: Results will be out tomorrow, if not today.
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Let's join the corn :corn
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Let's join the corn :corn
The (pop)corn party for Round 4 will be over soon! I'm actually nearly done the writeups now, so results will probably be out tonight.
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I thought Round 5 results were tonight...
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go to bed, grandpa
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Here we are, the final Round 4 results.
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MoraWintersoul
Conception
First impression: Reminds me of a few bands I've been sent, but this one seems a bit less interesting.
Final review: More power metal, eh? I quite like power metal (more on that in my next writeup, kind of), so that’s a genre that I’ll gladly check out more bands in. Conception is definitely good, I would say, but compared to the other stuff I’ve heard in the genre, it’s outclassed. But again, that’s not to say they’re bad or anything. I like their overall sound, though there’s something about it that feels unique… I can’t quite put my finger on it, but maybe it’s that the music sometimes reminds me of 80s pop? The chorus of “Cardinal Sin” is very catchy, and I feel like it wouldn’t feel out of place in a pop song. I don’t mean that in any bad way; I think the chorus sounds good, it just has a poppy feel to it. If I had to say which song was better overall, it probably would be Cardinal Sin. It’s a little more interesting than “Parallel Minds” overall, but that song is pretty good as well. It has that kind of “poppy” feel to it that Cardinal Sin does. But there is definitely some power metal to this band; on repeat listens, I had to check to make sure this was power metal to some extent because I was suddenly unsure if it was power metal or just regular metal. Also, Roy Khan sounds pretty good in these songs, but I think I prefer his performances in Kamelot more. Like I said, Conception is pretty good… I’ve just heard better bands in the genre.
Parallel Minds - 7.75/10
Cardinal Sin - 7.75/10
Roulette score: 7.8
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425
Blind Guardian
First impression: "Grandiose" is easily the best way to describe this.
Final review: Symphonic metal is a genre I’ve been enjoying quite a bit in this roulette. This band makes me see that genre in a different light. With most symphonic metal, I see that as metal mixed with significant elements of orchestral music. Blind Guardian, however, feels more like symphonic, orchestral music mixed with metal elements. Well, Wikipedia says they’re power metal, but my point still stands, yes? With the symphonic elements at the forefront, combined with the intensity and overall scale of these songs, it feels very grandiose. A sense of grandeur is something I really enjoy in music, and these symphonic genres are an easy place to look for that sort of thing. And sometimes they get close to overdoing it, but they never really do overdo it with the exciting, grandiose aspect. I quite enjoy the two songs from Blind Guardian, and as much as I’d like to talk about them in more detail… I feel like I kind of already have described them well, at least for the most part. That’s not to say there isn’t anything more to the music than symphonic grandeur, because there is. The symphonic grandeur is just the primary aspect of the music, and furthermore there’s just so much packed into these songs, and I feel like all the parts and elements of each song all work together really well when taken as a whole. I think this will grow on me even more than it already has. I’ll be checking out more from these guys, and don’t be surprised if I end up praising them very highly in the future.
Wheel of Time - 8.75/10
And Then There Was Silence - 8.75/10
Roulette score: 8.8
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Sacul
Portishead
First impression: Rather unusual, though that might just be a result of me not really listening to this kind of genre.
Final review: Portishead is probably the most unique artist of this whole roulette, though that might just be because it’s one of the few artists that aren’t rock or metal. I believe Sacul mentioned that this music is of the “trip-hop” genre, which… I don’t really know what that classifies as, because I doubt I’ve heard any other trip-hop in my life to really figure out the defining traits of the genre. So to describe some of the objective qualities of Portishead: it’s quite slow-paced, it’s electronic, there’s occasionally a slightly jazzy aesthetic to it, and it has a rather dark atmosphere. The singer sounds nice overall, though there are a couple odd moments with her. “Roads” is probably my favorite song here. It has a slow start, but the atmosphere is quite nice, and there’s a section where some string instruments (unsure if real or just keyboard effects) pop up, and the song gets this even better atmosphere. And I think that’s Portishead’s strongest attribute: The atmosphere in their songs. While I will say that I’ve found nothing amazing here, in a lot of ways it’s very well-made. “Glory Box” has a somewhat similar vibe to it, though it goes for this warped and kind of “sleazy” sound, if that makes any sense. It sounds good, though. “The Rip” is a quiet, almost minimalistic song. It sounds very nice, and honestly I would probably enjoy this song even more if it were twice its length. It’s simple, but it’s very pleasant to listen to, and has a certain magic to it. I wouldn’t mind getting more submissions of an electronic genre; after all, I quite liked Chroma Key and Anamanaguchi as well. And I can say I liked Portishead as well. They’re certainly an interesting artist to check out.
Glory Box - 7.75/10
Roads - 8.25/10
All Mine - 7.75/10
The Rip - 8.25/10
Roulette score: 8.0
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Elite
Ulver
First impression: I don't even know how to describe this one, but let's just say I have some good things to say about it.
Final review: This is another artist that’s rather unique among the roulette submissions I’ve gotten. Ulver feels like an artist that does just about everything. There’s some metal songs, and some electronic songs here. And according to Elite, they do even more genres, like art rock and modern classical. Overall, I think the diversity of genres works pretty well here; there’s not a single song here I think isn’t well-made, and each one of these is pretty different. “Proverbs of Hell, Plates 7-10” is one of the more metal tracks. It starts out with this spoken word intro that’s kinda creepy, but once the song really gets going, it turns into this industrial metal genre. The vocalist here isn’t anyone I recognize, but I’ve heard someone that sounds just like him from some other band my dad used to listen to… Anyway, it sounds pretty good, though the more robotic-sounding vocals sound kinda weird at the same time. It’s my least favorite of the bunch, but still a very interesting listen. Moving from my least favorite to my favorite, that song is “The Future Sound of Music”. On my first listen through the Round 4 artists, this was my favorite song of the whole round. But then I listened to another song some more and that one became my favorite song of the entire roulette. But this is still one of the best. It’s an ambient, electronic instrumental that combines a bunch of electronic sounds with a very beautiful piano melody. I think it’s trying to convey that music of the future will become all digitized (and will probably neutralize your brain), but honestly, if this song is what the sound of music in the future is like, I’m all for it! “It is not Sound” is another electronic song, though it’s a lot more energetic than The Future Sound of Music. I don’t even know how to describe “Rolling Stone” in terms of its genre, but it’s a very good song with a nice chorus. I already like Ulver based on these four songs, but I’ve gotta check out more just to see what else they’re capable of. It seems like there’s a huge amount of variety to uncover with just this one artist.
Proverbs of Hell, Plates 7-10 - 7.75/10
The Future Sound of Music - 9.5/10
It is not Sound - 8/10
Rolling Stone - 8.25/10
Roulette score: 8.4
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Evermind
Ayreon
First impression: 01001001 00100000 01101100 01101001 01101011 01100101 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100001 (“I like this!”)
Final review: Ayreon is a project I’ve heard a lot about, especially the album The Human Equation in particular. I didn’t get any songs from that album in this submission, but let’s just say I’m gonna be giving The Human Equation a listen… because the stuff I’ve heard so far is great. It’s proggy, it’s symphonic, and it’s made in the style of a rock opera. I love The Astonishing, so in theory this was already a band I was going to like. But now I’ll go into detail on how I did end up liking them. “The Day That The World Breaks Down” is an exciting and very ambitious epic. There’s a lot of vocalists I recognize (mostly thanks to this roulette!), and they all contribute well to the song (even if the singer Michael Mills’ vocals sound a little weird). James LaBrie is an expected but pleasant addition. Tommy Kaverik and Floor Jansen are there, too, that’s pretty cool. Tobias Sammet is pretty cool, too, I really like his voice. I recognize Russell Allen from that one Symphony X song I heard that one time… Tommy Rogers?! You got Tommy Rogers in this thing? Instant 10/10. I don’t care what the review score below this writeup says, this song’s a 10/10. I haven’t even talked about the song musically; it’s really great. It’s very dramatic-sounding (and suitably so), and there’s also this great blues part a little over halfway through. The delivery of the lyrics can be slightly awkward on occasion (“I mean, it should’ve been OB-VI-OOOUS”), but that’s just a result of the lyrics only being dialogue from the characters in the story, so it ultimately doesn’t bother me. So yeah, that’s a great song. I also quite enjoy “Valley on the Queens”. I’m not sure what the general consensus on this song is, but I think it’s a really nice ballad. And then there’s “Into the Black Hole”, which took some time to grow on me, but it’s one of those songs that can easily be defined as epic. My favorite part is easily the part right after the “Halo of Darkness” chorus. So dramatic, and very fitting of a song about a black hole. I’ve gotta listen to more from Ayreon, they have that sense of drama and grandeur that Nightwish has, and I really like it.
The Day That The World Breaks Down - 9/10
Valley of the Queens - 8.5/10
Waking Dreams - 8.25/10
Into the Black Hole - 8.75/10
Roulette score: 8.6
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romdrums / twosuitsluke
Mastodon
First impression: I like this, and I have a feeling that it's gonna really click with me at some point.
Final review: No point in hiding it any longer, this is that one band that has taken up a lot of my time for Round 4, because Mastodon is just so good. Over the years, I have heard about how great this band was, but I never considered listening to them… Well, good thing the period of my life in which I didn’t listen to Mastodon has now ended. I could talk about every song that was submitted, but we might be here for a while, so I’ll stick to the highlights as usual. “Blood and Thunder” is awesome, and it encapsulates what Mastodon is all about: Really good and well-made heavy metal. Despite its length being less than four minutes, this song is something I can only describe as epic. The chorus, which is simply the chanting of “White whale! Holy grail!” will never not be awesome. “Steambreather” has some softer vocals compared to songs like Blood and Thunder, but they sound great and have a lot of power to them in their own way. I’ve gotta talk about my favorite song now, though: “The Wolf Is Loose”. This song doesn’t even do anything particularly special, it’s just three-and-a-half minutes of intense heavy metal. But it is so satisfying to listen to, and it’s just a song I enjoy so much. Without a doubt one of the best songs I’ve been sent in this whole roulette. To talk about one more song, I’ve gotta mention “The Czar”. This is quite different from most of the other Mastodon songs I’ve heard, in that it’s an epic (in both grandeur and length!) but is also a little mellow and, for the most part, isn’t all fast-paced and intense. There’s a vocal style here that feels like it shouldn’t sound that good, but it does sound good. Probably because Mastodon is Mastodon and they are only capable of doing good things. The vocals sound especially great at around 7:43. And I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention that the drummer, Brann Dailor, is amazing. I haven’t heard a drummer this talented since… probably Blake Richardson from Between the Buried and Me. All the members are great, but Brann is so great that I had to bring up how great he is. This is, as of right now, the best band I’ve discovered in this roulette. Not since Haken have I given a band a listen and came out thinking, “Where have you been my whole life?” And this is the first artist I’ve been sent in this roulette that I can say this: If for some reason you haven’t heard anything from Mastodon, please do yourself a favor and listen to them. They’re simply amazing.
Blood and Thunder - 9.5/10
Steambreather - 9/10
Quintessence - 8.75/10
Ancient Kingdom - 8.75/10
Capillarian Crest - 9.25/10
The Wolf Is Loose - 9.75/10
The Czar - 9.25/10
Jaguar God - 8.75/10
romdrums’s roulette score: 9.0
twosuitsluke’s roulette score: 9.3
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STANDINGS:
twosuitsluke: 8.6 + 8.6 + 8.9 + 9.3 = 35.4
425: 8.9 + 8.4 + 9.0 + 8.8 = 35.1
Cyril: 8.8 + 9.0 + 8.4 + 8.7 = 34.9
Evermind: 8.6 + 8.6 + 8.3 + 8.6 = 34.1
Buddyhunter1: 8.9 + 8.0 + 8.8 + 8.2 = 33.9
Sacul: 8.2 + 8.6 + 8.3 + 8.0 = 33.1
Lethean: 7.7 + 8.2 + 8.7 + 8.2 = 32.8
kingshmegland: 8.2 + 7.8 + 8.5 + 8.3 = 32.8
romdrums: 8.4 + 8.1 + 7.0 + 9.0 = 32.5
Elite: 8.1 + 7.7 + 8.3 + 8.4 = 32.5
TAC: 7.8 + 8.4 + 8.4 + 7.9 = 32.5
MoraWintersoul: 8.3 + 8.1 + 7.9 + 7.8 = 32.1
jingle.boy: 7.9 + 8.1 + 8.1 + 7.9 = 32.0
Luoto: 8.3 + 7.6 + 7.8 + 8.1 = 31.8
Nekov: 8.2 + 7.4 + 8.5 + 7.6 = 31.7
HOF: 7.6 + 7.6 + 8.3 + 7.4 = 30.9
Puppies_On_Acid: 7.8 + 6.6 + 8.6 + 7.4 = 30.4
Stadler: 6.4 + 8.6 + 7.8 + 7.9 = 30.7
Anguyen92: 7.9 + 7.3 + 7.1 + 7.6 = 29.9
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Oh shoot, now I have to send something. Let’s see if I can stave off last place.
Edit: sent!
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Nice to see Mastodon do so well. They were on my short list to send. Guess I should have sent them. :metal
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I'm Mr. 8.6 apparently :lol
I sent for Round 5 a few weeks ago I think. No chance of winning this one so I'm prepared for my 7.2 this round.
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Sent for round 5. Time for an epic finish.
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Hmmmm. Hm, hm. Hmm hmm hmm!
Yeah I'm gonna be thinking about what to send at least until the end of the day.
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That's too low a score for Glory Box but I'll take the rest with a smile :P
Glad you also enjoyed The Future Sound of Music, that track is amazing. Gives me ideas as to what to send next...
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Glad you dug Mastodon. As I told you in my PM, I celebrate their entire catalog. I hope you enjoy the journey!
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Hmmmm. Hm, hm. Hmm hmm hmm!
Yeah I'm gonna be thinking about what to send at least until the end of the day.
Send The Crash Test Dummy's :biggrin:
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Hmmmm. Hm, hm. Hmm hmm hmm!
Yeah I'm gonna be thinking about what to send at least until the end of the day.
Send The Crash Test Dummy's :biggrin:
:lol
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Once there was a man whooooooo.....
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I'm Mr. 8.6 apparently :lol
Yeah, I found it kinda funny how three of your four scores were the same number. :lol
That's too low a score for Glory Box but I'll take the rest with a smile :P
Glad you also enjoyed The Future Sound of Music, that track is amazing. Gives me ideas as to what to send next...
Glory Box isn't anything special to me, but I can see how others might love it. Glad we agree on The Future Sound of Music, though; that track is amazing.
Glad you dug Mastodon. As I told you in my PM, I celebrate their entire catalog. I hope you enjoy the journey!
So far, I've listened to all of Blood Mountain and I'm nearly finished my first listen of Crack The Skye as I speak. I can safely say that so far, I am enjoying the journey through their discography!
Once there was a man whooooooo.....
I'm not sure what this is referencing, but I am quite intrigued as to what it is this man said or did.
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That's a lyric from the song Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm. :lol
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Here is the song we've been referencing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTeg1txDv8w
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Well hot damn! Best score of the roulette and now I'm on top??
Time to fuck it up :lol
I'm really glad you like Mastodon as they really are great and their catalogue is SO strong. I tried to send a good mix but I'm surprised that The Wolf is Loose is your highest ranking song of the roulette so far! Don't get me wrong, I love it, but it's not a song that I see get a great deal of love by your average 'Don fan. Brann is great, and it's the drumming that I love most about that song (oh and the section starting at 2:04, that shit will be stuck in your head for years :metal )
I took a risk sending songs with a lot of Brent lead vocals as I know he can be quite hit and miss for people and he's not got what's conventionally considered a "great" voice. But that is kinda the beauty of Mastodon. You've got four dudes who all bring their own thing, in their own style and it just fucking works! My favourite records by them are Leviathan, Blood Mountain, Crack the Skye and Emperor of Sand. All their albums are great but those 4 are just stellar, from start to finish. Enjoy the journey dude.
I really need to try not overthinking my next submission as it will guarantee I'll blow it.
Edit: Any special theme or anything for the last round? I might actually win my first roulette. The closest I ever came was Tomislav's. Fucked it in the EP round by adding an instrumental interlude that just brought my score average down. Some wounds never heal :yeahright
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Well hot damn! Best score of the roulette and now I'm on top??
Time to fuck it up :lol
I'm really glad you like Mastodon as they really are great and their catalogue is SO strong. I tried to send a good mix but I'm surprised that The Wolf is Loose is your highest ranking song of the roulette so far! Don't get me wrong, I love it, but it's not a song that I see get a great deal of love by your average 'Don fan. Brann is great, and it's the drumming that I love most about that song (oh and the section starting at 2:04, that shit will be stuck in your head for years :metal )
I took a risk sending songs with a lot of Brent lead vocals as I know he can be quite hit and miss for people and he's not got what's conventionally considered a "great" voice. But that is kinda the beauty of Mastodon. You've got four dudes who all bring their own thing, in their own style and it just fucking works! My favourite records by them are Leviathan, Blood Mountain, Crack the Skye and Emperor of Sand. All their albums are great but those 4 are just stellar, from start to finish. Enjoy the journey dude.
I really need to try not overthinking my next submission as it will guarantee I'll blow it.
Edit: Any special theme or anything for the last round? I might actually win my first roulette. The closest I ever came was Tomislav's. Fucked it in the EP round by adding an instrumental interlude that just brought my score average down. Some wounds never heal :yeahright
I was about to say that my favorite part of The Wolf Is Loose is the drum intro and first verse (I love the screaming vocals followed up by those intense, echoey vocals), and while that is my favorite part, 2:04 is basically the second-best part.
Also, no special theme for the final round. Send whatever you want! :)
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Sent!
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sended
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Signed, sealed, and delivered.........like 2 weeks ago :biggrin: :corn
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Signed, sealed, and delivered.........like 2 weeks months ago :biggrin: :corn
get on my level nerd :hat
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A 9.5 for The Future Sound of Music!! Yes! :metal
I'm not surprised in the slightest that the Proverbs of Hell track was your least favourite of the bunch. I just wanted to include it anyway since I absolutely love that album and rarely see it mentioned elsewhere. This one fit in nicely with the other three (or so I thought). I had actually hoped Rolling Stone would do even better than that and glad you picked up on the very different vibe in It is Not Sound (the album this one comes from is brilliant as well) compared to Future Sound, despite both being electronic track. You gotta enjoy that Bach nonsense at the end.
Have fun exploring this great group of musicians. If you need some suggestions for songs or albums, let me know. I think Perdition City and The Assassination of Julius Caesar are a good place to start, though the band is more diverse than just these two records show.
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Sent!!
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I sent as well.
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In. No surprises, no ground forged.
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Have fun exploring this great group of musicians. If you need some suggestions for songs or albums, let me know. I think Perdition City and The Assassination of Julius Caesar are a good place to start, though the band is more diverse than just these two records show.
Start with Nattens madrigal! :corn
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Have fun exploring this great group of musicians. If you need some suggestions for songs or albums, let me know. I think Perdition City and The Assassination of Julius Caesar are a good place to start, though the band is more diverse than just these two records show.
Start with Nattens madrigal! :corn
Without sarcasm, I actually like Nattens Madrigal, because it's so ridiculous. I find it way more enjoyable to sit through than almost every other black metal album I have ever heard (which on the grand scheme of things, aren't that many to be honest).
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I'm in the process of writing first impressions for Round 5 now with what I've got so far. Just as a friendly reminder, I still need submissions from Nekov, twosuitsluke, and Elite.
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Sent
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Oh! Yes! I will send later today!
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I have sent something that definitely won't get me the win (but I'm quite far behind anyway, so)
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Don't count on me. I'm on vacation and haven't thought about this for a while.
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nekov is eliminated alright onto round 5 :neverusethis:
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Oh yeah, I kind of forgot there's one more round in this roulette. :corn
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I haven't forgotten about this, nor do I wish to cancel the roulette. I've just been busy with a ton of different other things (nothing serious/important, don't worry about me) and the roulette has become lower priority, admittedly. I want to return to this, I just need the time and motivation to get back to actually doing it. Setting aside the time to listen to the music isn't a problem, but rather I've noticed that after listening to a lot of the submissions for Round 5, I've had no idea what to really say about some of the music, even just as a first impression. Maybe I've just gotten too burnt out to really focus on the submissions in a critical light, or maybe it's something else that I don't even realize. I'm sorry for failing to keep up a good pace with this roulette.
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You could get hangman set up in the meantime.
Then for write-ups, maybe keep them simple this time. I always have a hard time describing music and for my roulette I mostly stuck with how I felt about the songs.
You could maybe start by jotting down what you think of the vocals for a song as you listen to it, and maybe if there's something that sticks out - a solo, a chorus, etc, note that. Maybe add a mood or emotion or something like that. Is it heavy, light, beautiful, boring, etc.
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Did I send for round 5? Have we been waiting on me this whole time? :neverusethis:
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Did I send for round 5? Have we been waiting on me this whole time? :neverusethis:
Yeah, you sent for Round 5. There are two people who haven't sent, but I'm not waiting for them to send to continue; I just want to do this when I feel more motivated to do so (which I will try to come back to this sooner than later).
You could get hangman set up in the meantime.
Then for write-ups, maybe keep them simple this time. I always have a hard time describing music and for my roulette I mostly stuck with how I felt about the songs.
You could maybe start by jotting down what you think of the vocals for a song as you listen to it, and maybe if there's something that sticks out - a solo, a chorus, etc, note that. Maybe add a mood or emotion or something like that. Is it heavy, light, beautiful, boring, etc.
By the way, just to clarify, I did see this back when Lethean posted it. I will be sure to keep this in mind for when I resume Round 5, though I'd rather start the Hangman once I get back into this, just so I don't make it seem like I'm properly resuming my progress and then there's another gap in waiting for first impressions, results, etc..
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I guess I'll have to wait a little longer for my first roulette win then :corn
It's only been like 6 years since I started participating in them :facepalm:
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There are two people who haven't sent
and people say I'm slow!
Seriously :lol
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You might want to remind us who sent and who didn't. Seriously. I forgot if I sent or not. I THINK I did.
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The only people who haven't sent are 425 and Nekov. Everyone else has submitted for Round 5.
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You're so close! You can do it!
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Hi, sorry, I've been off the forum for a while due to some very serious personal issues. I'll try to send you something tonight.
Edit: Sent.
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Hope you (and yours) are well, 425.
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Thank you. I don't want to turn this thread to a really sad topic, but I posted an update in my own roulette thread.
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is there anybody out there
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Nobody Home
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Hello............
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Is there anybody in there?
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Just tell me how much you hated my submission :corn :corn :corn
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I'd been planning to get back to doing the final round for a couple days now; looks like I have the extra push I needed! I probably was going to start getting back to this tomorrow, but better to say it now anyway. Hangman will go up tomorrow for those interested, and first impressions will go up once I get through all the artists for the first time. This roulette was always something I wanted to do, and I intend to see it through to completion. I can't promise that I'll be as efficient as I was in Round 1 (such high motivation and energy like that is very rare for me), but I will make an effort to go through these submissions and get the proper results out before way too much time passes.
Just tell me how much you hated my submission :corn :corn :corn
I actually haven't listened to your submission yet (though I was pretty close to it in the playlist before I took my break from the roulette). I doubt I'll hate it, though!
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thank you cyril you did it
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and get the proper results out before way too much time passes.
:lol
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My round 5 submission was so bad it cancelled the roulette for a month
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My round 5 submission was so bad it cancelled the roulette for a month
Sent Absu eh?
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It's not a Pink Floyd song that comes to mind for me ... it's more of a Phil Collins song.
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I can feel it coming in the air tonight
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I can feel it coming in the air tonight
Not that one.
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Su-su-sudio!!!!
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Su-su-sudio!!!!
Strike 2. Do I need to spell it out. Here’s a hint ...
Do what I do ... just stop caring.
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Su-su-sudio!!!!
Strike 2. Do I need to spell it out. Here’s a hint ...
Do what I do ... just stop caring.
The Roof is Leaking? ;) ;D
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Here's the final Hangman. I'm currently in the process of going through all the submissions, so first impressions should arrive within the next couple of days.
??: Meshuggah
1: Future Breed Machine
2: Clockworks
3: Rational Gaze
4: Bleed
??: _____n _e___a___n
1: __e _ea__ _f E_e_____n_
2: __e _____
3: _n __e __ddle _f __e N____
4: _a_ad__e (__a_ Ab___ __?)
??: A_all___
1: _ A_ __e ___den D____
2: N__ _nl__e __e _a_e_
3: ______ _f __e __d__n_e_ F__e_
4: B____ and Dea__ _f __e __lla__ _f __ea___n
??: L___ D__a_n
1: __len_ ___
2: _nd_____
3: ..._n __e _a___n_ ____ _f Dea__
??: Mew
1: N____n_ne__ and N_ _e__e__
2: A___al____
3: _and_ __e_e_ All __ea_ed ___
4: Comforting Sounds
??: _____a_
1: ___ D_ _e L__e?/__en __e __a__ Al__n/__e __a__e _n __e __land
2: _n__de __e __d__nd/__e ___e_ Da__
3: _n ___an_e L____
??: Wintersun
1: Land of Snow and Sorrow
2: Darkness and Frost/Time
jingle.boy: Trans-Siberian Orchestra
1: A _ad _____an'_ _______a_
2: ___d __n_ ___
3: _ld ____ Ba_
4: _______a_ E_e/_a_a_e__ __/__
??: Angra
1: _a__l_na __
2: A__d _a_n
3: __e __ad__ __n_e_
4: E__ _a_n_ed __e_
5: ___e_ Le_el_
??: Periphery
1: Have A Blast
2: Ragnarok
3: Omega
??: _a____e A__a__
1: _nf_n___ed ____a___
2: _ea_d___
3: ____n___n
4: _a_e __ __e_e
??: _a___e___n_n_
1: F_ea_ ____
2: ____land
3: __ L_na___
4: L________e
??: Black Sabbath
1: ____al A_____e__
2: __e ____ll _f __ All
3: ___e_na__
??: The Pineapple Thief
1: In Exile
2: La__ _an __and_n_
3: Far Below
4: _____l_ ___nd
??: Unleash the Archers
1: __e ___a_d'_ _a_
2: N_____e__ _a__a_e
3: A_ex
??: Thank You Scientist
1: A Salesman's Guide to Non-Existence
2: FXMLDR
3: Psychopomp
??: _a_d_a__
1: __e __ __d_n_ Be__nd __e __ed
2: D__-L__e __a___
3: __e D___ and ___e_ __e ____e
4: D____ B__
??: Metallica (Live with the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra)
1: The Call of Ktulu
2: One
3: Hero of the Day
4: The Outlaw Torn
Guessed letters: D N L E B X F A
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Ah yes, I see mine.
Had to go back in my mind to figure out what I had sent.
D
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Mine would've been a much better listening experience 6-8 weeks ago when the round first started. Oh well, not like I was in the hunt anyway.
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You sent Christmas music?
EDIT:
Okay: Trans-Siberian Orchestra, sent by Chad
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Give me an N.
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L for it's been a long time
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E for Eternity.
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B for Better late than never.
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X
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Mine would've been a much better listening experience 6-8 weeks ago when the round first started. Oh well, not like I was in the hunt anyway.
If it's any consolation, I did give your submissions a listen back when I first started Round 5.
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I forgot what I sent. :lol
F as in forgetful.
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Thank You Scientist
A Salesman's Guide to Non-Existence
FXMLDR
Uuuhhhh Psychopomp?? Chromology?
Black Sabbath
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Some long band names/song titles in here.
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Meshuggah
Future Breed Machine
Clockworks ( :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal )
Rational Gaze
Bleed
Very curious to see how well this goes over (not that it matters for the rest of the roulette, but still). Whoever sent them has committed a war crime by not including New Millennium Cyanide Christ, but the inclusion of Clockworks almost makes up for it. What a fucking song. Combustion or obZen would have been a good inclusion as well.
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The Pineapple Thief
In Exile
Far Below
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Metallica with the San Fran Symphony
The Call of Ktulu
One
Hero of the Day
The Outlaw Torn
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Allegaeon
if lonestar's playing, that's his
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Just tell me how much you hated my submission :corn :corn :corn
I actually haven't listened to your submission yet (though I was pretty close to it in the playlist before I took my break from the roulette). I doubt I'll hate it, though!
Cool, coz I completely forgot what I sent :lol. Hopefully hangmanen will reveal it soon.
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A
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Unleash the Archers
Angra
Mew
Comforting Sounds
Periphery
Have a Blast
lotta djent here apparently
edit:
Wintersun
Land of Snow and Sorrow
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Ragnarok
Omega
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Wintersun
Land of Snow and Sorrow
Darkness And Frost / Time
Could be Ariich?
Also we're sure Land Of Snow And Sorrow isn't actually Sons Of Winter And Stars, right? :neverusethis:
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I don't remember what I sent, but it could have been Angra, Mew, Wintersun, Allegaeon, Thank You Scientist, or something not guessed yet. :dunno:
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Updated the Hangman; I accidentally misspelled the name of one of the bands before, but that is now fixed.
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Mine would've been a much better listening experience 6-8 weeks ago when the round first started.
:lol
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Agalloch
iamthemorning
I sent iamthemorning I think?
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Agalloch
Wow how did I miss that
I Am The Wooden Doors
Not Unlike The Waves
Ghosts Of The Midwinter Fires
Birth And Death Of The Pillars Of Creation
To each their own but this is kind of a weaksauce selection of songs for them, I like Not Unlike The Waves and Ghosts... but they're not quite at the top of their discography, and the other two are kinda meh.
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Agalloch
Wow how did I miss that
I Am The Wooden Doors
Not Unlike The Waves
Ghosts Of The Midwinter Fires
Birth And Death Of The Pillars Of Creation
To each their own but this is kind of a weaksauce selection of songs for them, I like Not Unlike The Waves and Ghosts... but they're not quite at the top of their discography, and the other two are kinda meh.
I'll go ahead and out myself here. I sent this. My idea was to give him a wide spread taste of what Agalloch is about. So 1 song from 4 very different albums. Birth and Death of the Pillars of Creation is epically amazing, by the way, even if the rest of that album doesn't quite live up to their potential. It's buildup and payoff is on equal level to most of their stuff from their other albums. Also I Am the Wooden Doors, may seem like an odd choice, but to fit it all within the allotted time I had to make a small sacrifice. It's still an awesome track.
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Metallica is Luke
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Metallica is Luke
It's not but holy shit, S&M Ktulu is the best song sent in the entire roulette!!
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No it’s not :)
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Need WildRanger in here to make that decision, good point
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This is the first roulette where the players are legitimately guessing what THEY sent.
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Need WildRanger in here to make that decision, good point
Don't tempt him :lol
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Need WildRanger in here to make that decision, good point
Don't tempt him :lol
So it's... Within Temptation?
*badum-tssh*
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??: Meshuggah
1: Future Breed Machine
2: Clockworks
3: Rational Gaze
4: Bleed
??: Within Temptation
1: The Heart of Everything
2: _he __oss
3: In the Middle of the Night
4: _a_adise (_ha_ Abo__ _s?)
Puppies_On_Acid: Agalloch
1: I Am The Wooden Doors
2: Not Unlike The Waves
3: Ghosts of the Midwinter Fires
4: Birth and Death of the Pillars of Creation
TAC: Lost Domain
1: Silent Cry
2: Indicium
3: ...In the Waiting Room of Death
??: Mew
1: No_hin_ness and No _e__e_s
2: A_o_al__so
3: _and_ _ie_es All S_ea_ed O__
4: Comforting Sounds
Cyril: Mithras
1: _h_ Do _e Li_e?/_hen _he S_a_s Ali_n/_he S_a__e on _he Island
2: Inside _he _od_ind/_he O__e_ Da__
3: On Strange Loops
??: Wintersun
1: Land of Snow and Sorrow
2: Darkness and Frost/Time
jingle.boy: Trans-Siberian Orchestra
1: A _ad __ssian's _h_is__as
2: _ood _in_ _o_
3: Old _i__ Ba_
4: _h_is__as E_e/Sa_a_e_o __/__
??: Angra
1: _a_olina I_
2: Acid Rain
3: _he Shado_ H_n_e_
4: E_o _ain_ed __e_
5: ___e_ Le_els
??: Periphery
1: Have A Blast
2: Ragnarok
3: Omega
??: _assi_e A__a__
1: _nfinished S___a_h_
2: _ea_d_o_
3: _isin_son
4: _a_e I_ _he_e
Evermind: iamthemorning
1: F_ea_ Sho_
2: S_o_land
3: Os L_na___
4: Lighthouse
Stadler: Black Sabbath
1: S_i_al A__hi_e__
2: The Thrill of It All
3: S__e_na__
??: The Pineapple Thief
1: In Exile
2: Last Man Standing
3: Far Below
4: _i_h_l_ _o_nd
??: Unleash the Archers
1: _he _o_a_d's _a_
2: No__h_es_ _assa_e
3: A_ex
??: Thank You Scientist
1: A Salesman's Guide to Non-Existence
2: FXMLDR
3: Psychopomp
??: Cardiacs
1: She Is Hidin_ Behind _he Shed
2: Do_-Li_e S_a___
3: _he D___ and _o_e_ _he Ho_se
4: Dirty Boy
??: Metallica (Live with the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra)
1: The Call of Ktulu
2: One
3: Hero of the Day
4: The Outlaw Torn
Guessed letters: D N L E B X F A O H Q I S
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So it's... Within Temptation?
*badum-tssh*
I'm unsure if this was a guess at one of the artists sent, but I'll just play it safe and add it to the Hangman. :lol
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Give me an O
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How about an H.
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Lost Domain. TAC
Silent Cry
Indicium
...In the Waiting Room of Death
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it's Q time babey
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Lighthouse is one of the iamthemorning songs
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I've listened to every submission at least once! First impressions coming very soon...
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Well, here they are: The Round 5 first impressions. I don't know if this will be my favorite round of the roulette, but I think it will end up being the most interesting.
1. This seems like a band I should really like, but at the moment, there isn't much that I find particularly interesting.
2. This is one of the more unique artists I've heard in this roulette. There's some very good stuff here!
3. Very pleasant and beautiful music.
4. This band is more musically diverse than I was expecting.
5. The symphonic elements here are great, and add a lot to the already pretty good music.
6. There's so much energy here that it's crazy... and I like it!
7. Some interesting parts here and there. I'll have to see if these songs as a whole grow on me.
8. The vocals are very nice. The music is a bit grand, but has this very accessible feeling to it at the same time.
9. I appreciate the idea of sending something different, but I don't think this is something I'll get much enjoyment out of.
10. VERY reminiscent of a certain artist I really like.
11. This is some of the strangest and most insane music I've ever listened to.
12. Not bad by any means, but it is a bit of a step down from the other artists that I've been sent by the person who sent this.
13. This is only the first time I've listened to this, but this could potentially end up as one of my favorite artists of the whole roulette.
14. I like the overall sound, but the songwriting doesn't seem too great.
15. Musically, it's amazing, but some of the vocals could be better.
16. The harsh vocals aren't that great, but I'm really liking everything else.
17. There's a lot going on here, but I think this could end up as something I greatly enjoy.
18. Really interesting stuff here! I think this will end up as one of my favorites of this round.
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16. The harsh vocals aren't that great, but I'm really liking everything else.
Agalloch? That was my first reaction to them. :P
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Well, here they are: The Round 5 first impressions. I don't know if this will be my favorite round of the roulette, but I think it will end up being the most interesting.
1. This seems like a band I should really like, but at the moment, there isn't much that I find particularly interesting.
2. This is one of the more unique artists I've heard in this roulette. There's some very good stuff here!
3. Very pleasant and beautiful music.
4. This band is more musically diverse than I was expecting.
5. The symphonic elements here are great, and add a lot to the already pretty good music.
6. There's so much energy here that it's crazy... and I like it!
7. Some interesting parts here and there. I'll have to see if these songs as a whole grow on me.
8. The vocals are very nice. The music is a bit grand, but has this very accessible feeling to it at the same time.
9. I appreciate the idea of sending something different, but I don't think this is something I'll get much enjoyment out of.
10. VERY reminiscent of a certain artist I really like.
11. This is some of the strangest and most insane music I've ever listened to.
12. Not bad by any means, but it is a bit of a step down from the other artists that I've been sent by the person who sent this.
13. This is only the first time I've listened to this, but this could potentially end up as one of my favorite artists of the whole roulette.
14. I like the overall sound, but the songwriting doesn't seem too great.
15. Musically, it's amazing, but some of the vocals could be better.
16. The harsh vocals aren't that great, but I'm really liking everything else.
17. There's a lot going on here, but I think this could end up as something I greatly enjoy.
18. Really interesting stuff here! I think this will end up as one of my favorites of this round.
No idea which one is mine, but number 1 would be my impression of Iamthemorning and Pineapple Thief. Both feel like I should like them more than I do.
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#3 is clearly Meshuggah.
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2?
Also, gimme I for hangmanen
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#3 is clearly Meshuggah.
How did you know?? :o
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#3 is clearly Meshuggah.
How did you know?? :o
Call it a hunch. :neverusethis:
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12 is me lol
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11 is mine
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I'm claiming 4.
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Cardiacs
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Cardiacs
Dirty Boy
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I’m guessing mine is number 5.
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Stadler probably sent Sabbath, right?
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8, 10 or 12.
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I think mine is 1, 5, or 8.
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Mithras
On Strange Loops
The Heart of Everything
In the Middle of the Night
The Thrill of it All
Last Man Standing
Acid Rain
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give me the S
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Mithras
On Strange Loops
The Heart of Everything
In the Middle of the Night
The Thrill of it All
Last Man Standing
Acid Rain
Ooh, did Cyril send this? :metal
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:2metal:
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Lost Domain. TAC
Silent Cry
Indicium
...In the Waiting Room of Death
16. The harsh vocals aren't that great, but I'm really liking everything else.
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Paradise (What About Us?)
Massive Attack
Unfinished Sympathy
Teardrop
Risingson
sent by Sacul?
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romdrums: Meshuggah
1: Future Breed Machine
2: Clockworks
3: Rational Gaze
4: Bleed
Anguyen92: Within Temptation
1: The Heart of Everything
2: The __oss
3: In the Middle of the Night
4: Paradise (What About Us?)
Puppies_On_Acid: Agalloch
1: I Am The Wooden Doors
2: Not Unlike The Waves
3: Ghosts of the Midwinter Fires
4: Birth and Death of the Pillars of Creation
TAC: Lost Domain
1: Silent Cry
2: Indicium
3: ...In the Waiting Room of Death
??: Mew
1: Nothin_ness and No _e__ets
2: Apo_al_pso
3: _and_ Pie_es All S_ea_ed O_t
4: Comforting Sounds
Cyril: Mithras
1: _h_ Do _e Li_e?/_hen The Sta_s Ali_n/The Stat_e on the Island
2: Inside the _od_ind/The O_te_ Da__
3: On Strange Loops
Luoto: Wintersun
1: Land of Snow and Sorrow
2: Darkness and Frost/Time
jingle.boy: Trans-Siberian Orchestra
1: A _ad __ssian's _h_ist_as
2: _ood _in_ _o_
3: Old _it_ Ba_
4: _h_ist_as E_e/Sa_a_e_o __/__
Lethean: Angra
1: Carolina IV
2: Acid Rain
3: The Shadow Hunter
4: Ego Painted Grey
5: Upper Levels
??: Periphery
1: Have A Blast
2: Ragnarok
3: Omega
Sacul: Massive Attack
1: Unfinished Sympathy
2: Teardrop
3: Risingson
4: Ta_e It The_e
Evermind: iamthemorning
1: F_ea_ Sho_
2: S_otland
3: Os L_nat__
4: Lighthouse
Stadler: Black Sabbath
1: Spiral Architect
2: The Thrill of It All
3: S_pe_na_t
kingshmegland: The Pineapple Thief
1: In Exile
2: Last Man Standing
3: Far Below
4: Ti_htl_ _o_nd
MoraWintersoul: Unleash the Archers
1: The _o_a_d's _a_
2: Northwest Passage
3: Apex
twosuitsluke: Thank You Scientist
1: A Salesman's Guide to Non-Existence
2: FXMLDR
3: Psychopomp
??: Cardiacs
1: She Is Hiding Behind the Shed
2: Do_-Li_e Spa___
3: The D___ and _o_e_ the Ho_se
4: Dirty Boy
??: Metallica (Live with the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra)
1: The Call of Ktulu
2: One
3: Hero of the Day
4: The Outlaw Torn
Guessed letters: D N L E B X F A O H Q I S Z Z T O O O O O P
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Carolina IV
The Shadow Hunter
Ego Painted Grey
Upper Levels
Strange Angra choices. Did Firewings send this?
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Carolina IV
The Shadow Hunter
Ego Painted Grey
Upper Levels
Strange Angra choices. Did Firewings send this?
Who is "Firewings"?
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Who is "Firewings"?
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The guy currently known as the Walrus? Oh wait, Walrus isn't in this thing. I think.
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The guy currently known as the Walrus? Oh wait, Walrus isn't in this thing. I think.
Correct, The Walrus isn't a participant in this roulette.
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There’s so much in hangmanen you can basicaly read now :lol
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The guy currently known as the Walrus? Oh wait, Walrus isn't in this thing. I think.
Correct, The Walrus isn't a participant in this roulette.
Or DTF for that matter.
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Z
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Z
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T
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O
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O
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O
O
Should I pick O?
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O
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O
Is that your O face?
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O
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we died
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We all got a 3/10.
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:haggis:
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I'm still working on it as we speak! I started the rating process recently, so getting to the reviewing process shouldn't be too much longer.
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P
there, I completed the ZZ TOOOOOP.
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I'm still working on it as we speak! I started the rating process recently, so getting to the reviewing process shouldn't be too much longer.
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Status update: The rating process is just about complete. Results 1/3 should be ready in the next few days.
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let's GOOOOOOOO to the 4/10 club
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Status update: The rating process is just about complete. Results 1/3 should be ready in the next few days.
Wait a minute...you mean the first THIRD of the results will be available in the next FEW DAYS? WTF?
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let's GOOOOOOOO to the 4/10 club
Funny you mention that, I gave your submission a [DATA EXPUNGED] out of 10
Status update: The rating process is just about complete. Results 1/3 should be ready in the next few days.
Wait a minute...you mean the first THIRD of the results will be available in the next FEW DAYS? WTF?
Maybe "within" was a better word. I just meant that it'd be a few days at the most. I know I've kept you all waiting for a long time, but we are close to the end now.
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Status update: The rating process is just about complete. Results 1/3 should be ready in the next few days.
Wait a minute...you mean the first THIRD of the results will be available in the next FEW DAYS? WTF?
:lol
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Let's solve the hangman. The first Black Sabbath song is Spiral Architect. Sacul sent Massive Attack. Anguyen sent Within Temptation. Elite sent Meshuggah. King sent Pineapple Thief. Lethean sent Angra. Luoto sent Wintersun. Mora sent Unleash the Archers. Luke sent Thank You Scientist.
At least some of these have to be right :lol
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Let's solve the hangman. The first Black Sabbath song is Spiral Architect. Sacul sent Massive Attack. Anguyen sent Within Temptation. Elite sent Meshuggah. King sent Pineapple Thief. Lethean sent Angra. Luoto sent Wintersun. Mora sent Unleash the Archers. Luke sent Thank You Scientist.
At least some of these have to be right :lol
All of them except one!
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Awesome!
Also, the Cardiacs song is obviously "She is Hiding Behind the Shed;" there's just one letter missing. And the second Unleash the Archers song is clearly Northwest Passage.
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romdrums sent Meshuggah, not me
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Yep. I've sent Within Temptation.
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Results 1/3 coming very, very soon... (It's really happening!)
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Is it really... going to be?
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It may have taken over two months, but I’ve finally gotten to the results of Round 5! If things go according to plan, the next two parts will be out very soon. We’re almost at the end now!
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Buddyhunter1
Periphery
First impression: This seems like a band I'd really like, but at the moment, there isn't much that I find particularly interesting.
Final review: You’ll be hearing me say this a few more times throughout the results, but this is a band that has grown on me a good bit since my initial impressions. While I don’t think they’re amazing, Periphery has a lot of interesting ideas, and those ideas are generally very well-executed. There’s only one real issue I have with Periphery, and it’s that I feel like they’re at their best when they’re not doing the hardcore metal stuff. That’s not to say it’s bad or anything, but the metal sections of the songs, while they’re good and full of energy, usually aren’t anything particularly special. “Have A Blast” has an AMAZING opening: There’s a violin playing, which is then followed by these gorgeous keyboard sounds. And then comes the metal stuff, which is a good energetic start to the song, but the first 14 seconds of the song is so beautiful and great that it’s rather disappointing that it stopped. I almost wish that was what the whole song was built upon. That’s what I mean when I say this is their flaw; they have these great ideas, but because the primary focus is being metal, the non-metal parts don’t feel fleshed out. A better moment is in “Ragnarok”; the majority of the song is pretty great, but near the end of the song, it transitions into this really pleasant, melodic section with a softer guitar sound and some atmospheric keyboards. And in this case, it does feel developed and fleshed out. I do wish it went on longer, though, it’s just that great. “Omega” has quite a few interesting ideas, both in the metal and more experimental areas, but I do feel like it goes on a bit too long. I think this could have been a lot better if they trimmed some areas. I do really like this one section around 8 minutes in, where there’s a quieter section (though it could’ve been trimmed just a little bit), which is then followed by this almost jazz-like guitar solo... which feels a little too short. But even though the best aspects of these songs don’t usually reach their full potential, there’s a lot to like here. All three of these songs are great, but I feel like this band would be something special if they gave more priority to the melodic and experimental side of their songwriting.
Have A Blast - 8.25/10
Ragnarok - 8.75/10
Omega - 8.25/10
Roulette score: 8.4
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Sacul
Massive Attack
First impression: I appreciate the effort in sending something different, but I don't think this is something I'll get much enjoyment out of.
Final review: Considering I thought Portishead was pretty good, I can see why I was sent an artist like Massive Attack afterwards. The music generally has a similar feel to Portishead, in that it’s moody and atmospheric. There are some good moments here and there, but I generally find it to just be serviceable at most. I don’t find it to be particularly interesting, and it doesn’t feel particularly unique to me. I think the only thing I outright don’t like are the vocals. The female singer sounds alright, but the male singer(s?) sounds kind of boring, and I don’t really enjoy the rapping style of vocals, either. To list some positives, I do think there’s generally a good atmosphere across all these songs. As I mentioned before, it’s similar to the sort of vibe that Portishead gives off, and it is an atmosphere that I do like. “Unfinished Sympathy” is the best song here, and while it isn’t anything special, it does have some good moments, like the string instrument synths towards the end of the song. The vocals are also pretty good. On the other hand, there’s not much at all that I find interesting in “Risingson”, and it feels longer than it actually is. And while the vocals sort of fit with the song, they’re rather bland. If you’re into this type of genre, I imagine this would be an artist worth checking out. I do like electronic music quite a bit, but I guess this artist just isn’t for me. Regarding where I’d rank this artist out of every artist in the roulette… I’d rank it above Moonsorrow, at least; I’d much rather listen to a 5-minute song where not much seems to happen than a 19-minute song where next to nothing seems to happen.
Unfinished Sympathy - 7.25/10
Teardrop - 7/10
Risingson - 6.25/10
Take It There - 6.75/10
Roulette score: 6.8
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Stadler
Black Sabbath
First impression: This band is more musically diverse than I was expecting.
Final review: This might be the most surprising band in the whole roulette for me. I didn’t have bad expectations, but considering Black Sabbath is considered one of the pioneers of heavy metal and the name is… well, Black Sabbath… I didn’t expect to like this as much as I do. Now, it’s nowhere near my favorite artist in the roulette, but the songs I’ve heard from this band are all pretty good. “Spiral Architect” is surprising in another way; the song alternates between an upbeat, rock ‘n roll sound and a slow ballad in the vocal sections. Speaking of which, another surprising element is the vocals. Ozzy’s voice sounds like the kind of voice that wouldn’t sound good at all, but it actually works really well with the music. And it’s not just with this song; the other two songs are more consistently upbeat, and his voice sounds good on those songs, too. And yet another element of pleasant surprise is the lyrics. Considering the name of the band, I was expecting the kind of lyrics you’d hear from Slayer or Ghost, but that’s not the case here at all (at least of these three songs). These lyrics are rather down-to-earth; they’re nothing innocent (it wouldn’t surprise me if it turns out “The Thrill of It All” was about drugs or something like that) but they’re well-written and somewhat interesting. And I keep mentioning how much of a pleasant surprise this band was, but that’s really the biggest thing I took away from my time listening to Black Sabbath. If I haven’t conveyed it very well, I think all of these songs are pretty good, and you should check them out if you haven’t.
Spiral Architect - 8.5/10
The Thrill of It All - 8/10
Supernaut - 7.75/10
Roulette score: 8.1
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Anguyen92
Within Temptation
First impression: The vocals are very nice. The music is a bit grand, but has this very accessible feeling to it at the same time.
Final review: Honestly, I don’t think I have much to talk about with this band besides what I said in my initial impression. Within Temptation is just an artist that makes pretty good music. It’s easy to listen to, and the vocals combined with the style of music gives off a bit of a serious tone, which makes it sound a little grandiose at times. The main highlight here for me is “In the Middle of the Night”. It’s different from the other songs I’ve heard, in that it’s a straight-up rocking kind of song. The chorus is fun to listen to, and the instrumentals are quite entertaining. And this is just a side note, but I’ve noticed that the main riff in this song is almost completely identical to the boss theme in the GBA version of Crash Nitro Kart. Just listen to both of these songs, there’s a striking resemblance. Another good song is “Paradise (What About Us?)”, which gives off that grand sort of feeling I was talking about before. The vocals are very good here, and Tarja Turunen from Nightwish even makes an appearance as one of the guest vocalists, which is pretty cool! While the songs here aren’t anything amazing, this band has a good sound, and there’s a lot of good hooks here. I’d say I would be interested in checking out more of their music at some point.
The Heart of Everything - 7.5/10
The Cross - 7.5/10
In the Middle of the Night - 8.25/10
Paradise (What About Us?) - 8/10
Roulette score: 7.8
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TAC
Lost Domain
First impression: Some interesting parts here and there. I'll have to see if these songs as a whole grow on me.
Final review: I see a bit of similarity here between Lost Domain and Within Temptation; their music is metal that isn’t too complex, and it’s fronted by a female singer. Generally, Lost Domain’s music is heavier in comparison, though overall I think I prefer Within Temptation a little more. Talking specifically about Lost Domain, though, there’s quite a few moments that are pretty enjoyable. I really like “Silent Cry”; it’s heavy, it can be a little aggressive here and there, and the chorus is really good, with a back-and-forth between the normal female vocals, and some harsh male vocals. “Judicium”, however, is a song that I don’t exactly care for. There are some good moments, but the main thing that bothers me is the lyrics (at least in the chorus). I don’t mind dark/depressing lyrics in music at all; for instance, I love Steven Wilson, and a lot of my favorite songs from him are very dark and depressing lyrically (Stop Swimming, Heartattack in a Layby, Anesthetize, and so on), but the lyrics here just rub me the wrong way. I think it’s because personally, it just comes across as nihilistic to me (“We’re all gonna die, and we need to let it go / We’re all gonna die someday”) and that kind of depressing nature is something that doesn’t really appeal to me. Lastly, “...In the Waiting Room of Death” is good, certainly a step up from Judicium. That said, I probably would’ve liked it just as much (if not more) if it was shorter. So, Lost Domain is pretty good, all things considered. Not one of my favorites, but I do like their heavy yet somewhat accessible sound.
Silent Cry - 8/10
Judicium - 6.75/10
...In the Waiting Room of Death - 7.5/10
Roulette score: 7.4
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MoraWintersoul
Unleash the Archers
First impression: I like the overall sound, but the songwriting doesn't seem too great.
Final review: So this one’s a bit interesting. When Unleash the Archers is good, it can be pretty great! But when it’s not at its best, it can be rather tedious. Considering when it is and isn’t good, I almost feel like my feelings on the band are kind of the inverse of my one complaint about Periphery. Generally, the music is upbeat, fast-paced power metal. That’s what this band is all about. When they don’t do that, that’s when things don’t get so good. Starting with the positives, “The Coward’s Way” is really good. It’s simply just very satisfying to listen to from start to finish, and the chorus and guitar solo are especially great. And “Apex” is pretty good as well. Not quite as good as The Coward’s Way, but it’s the band doing what they do best, with some good quieter moments here and there. The other song, “Northwest Passage”, is what I don’t exactly enjoy. I remember finding this rather annoying the first time I heard it, and while it has grown on me to an extent, it’s still not a song I really care for. Honestly, this is probably my least favorite song in this entire roulette (although considering the score I gave it, I’d say that’s pretty impressive, in a way). There’s two main problems I have with the song. Firstly, the first two minutes are boring. There isn’t much music here, so it’s just the vocals with some drums on occasion. After the whole band comes in, it does get better, and there are some good moments from that point onward. However, as I said, there are two problems I have, and that other problem is that I find the chorus very tedious, if not outright annoying. It feels like it goes on forever, the lyrics don’t feel well-written for it, and it sometimes feels like it makes up way too much of the entire song’s length. Also, I don’t have any inherent problem with the lyrics, but as I don’t care for the vocals/chorus, the lyrics coming across as grand and important falls flat for me. Overall, my verdict of Unleash the Archers is that I’m interested in what else they have to offer, so long as the majority of their discography is in a similar vein to The Coward’s Way and Apex. If there’s more songs like Northwest Passage, I’m not sure how interested I’d be in listening to more of their material.
The Coward’s Way - 8.5/10
Northwest Passage - 6/10
Apex - 7.75/10
Roulette score: 7.4
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On a side note, I wanted to rename the thread "Is it really happening?" once I got to posting the results (especially after 425's response to my previous status update), but I can't fit it in the thread title, so the reference to The Count of Tuscany will have to do instead...
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Hey, not bad. :) Periphery II is probably their best album (and one of their more melodic ones) so if you wanna listen to any of their full albums (and I suggest you do) I'd recommend starting with that one.
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:corn
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Results 2/3 should be out tomorrow. Then the last batch of results shouldn't be that long of a wait, because I'm saving most of my favorites to review last, and those will be easiest to write about.
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awesome, so, my results tomorrow then :corn
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Here's Part 2 of the Round 5 results! We're so close to the end now!
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HOF
Mew
First impression: This is one of the more unique artists I've heard in this roulette. There's some very good stuff here!
Final review: This is quite a different artist from what I’ve heard from this roulette. Mew has a strong pop-rock feel to their music, and while there might be a couple other artists I’ve been sent that could be classified as pop-rock, this one still feels unique. While the rock elements are definitely there, the electronic/pop elements are present a lot, too, and there’s some experimental stuff at times. And that all comes together to make some pretty good songs. The vocals are a bit odd, but I quite like them; I’m kinda surprised I do like them, though. I could imagine a lot of people being turned off by them, but anyway, I find them pretty good. Talking about specific songs, “Candy Pieces All Smeared Out” is a good showcase of what this band’s like. The chorus is very catchy, and feels anthemic, almost. There’s experimental aspects to the song, too, like a somewhat bombastic intro before going into the quieter, more vocal-driven verses, as well as the outro, which has some weird electronic stuff going on. The other two songs are a bit more straightforward, but then there’s “Comforting Sounds”, which, for what occurs in this song, is a very fitting title. It’s a softer song, starting with guitar but later adding some keyboards into the mix. The melancholic lyrics really add to the atmosphere, too. On its own, this would be a pretty good song. But then, the song gets a little more upbeat, and for the rest of the song is an instrumental section that just gradually becomes more and more amazing as it goes on. It’s beautiful, no doubt about it. I may be giving this song a 9/10 now, but I think over time, my opinion of this song is gradually going to get higher and higher. A bit like how this song goes, eh? So yeah, Mew has some pretty good stuff. Comforting Sounds is easily the standout track here, but the other songs are quite good as well.
Nothingness and No Regrets - 7.75/10
Apocalypso - 7.75/10
Candy Pieces All Smeared Out - 8/10
Comforting Sounds - 9/10
Roulette score: 8.1
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Puppies_On_Acid
Agalloch
First impression: The harsh vocals aren't that great, but I'm really liking everything else.
Final review: Agalloch reminds me a lot of (older) Opeth. Probably because of the death metal elements, the shift between harsh and soft vocals, and the generally lengthy songs. There is a difference, though, and that’s while old Opeth shifts between heavy and soft sections, Agalloch kind of combines the two; the music is usually heavy, but it’s also very melodic at the same time. Not that Opeth wasn’t melodic, but that aspect is more noticeable here. And to compare both of these bands as a whole, I think Agalloch is more enjoyable. I like Opeth’s sound and style, but for some reason, outside of a couple songs they just never truly interested me. Alright, enough comparisons. Agalloch’s style of being death metal while still having a strong melodic feel is the best part of this band. The soft vocals are quite good as well. The harsh vocals are kinda weird, though. They’ve grown on me for the most part, but I much prefer the soft vocals here. My favorite song that I’ve heard is “Not Unlike The Waves”. The recurring guitar riff is really good, and there’s just a lot of good moments overall, and despite being somewhat repetitive in structure, it doesn’t feel like it’s overlong at all. Even some of the harsh vocals are great! I could probably describe “Ghosts of the Midwinter Fires” in mostly the same way, although I do prefer Not Unlike The Waves more. The only song I really have any problems with is “Birth and Death of the Pillars of Creation”. It’s good, but I do feel like it goes on a bit long without much going on. There’s also this really weird moment with the harsh vocals at the end of the song. I feel like it’s supposed to be this really cathartic climax to the song, but the way it’s sung is jarring and almost comes across a little silly to me. But aside from that, there’s not much about these songs that I don’t care for. I quite like Agalloch, and to make one more Opeth comparison, I think I’ve found “Opeth, but better”.
I Am The Wooden Doors - 8/10
Not Unlike The Waves - 8.5/10
Ghosts of the Midwinter Fires - 8.25/10
Birth and Death of the Pillars of Creation - 7.5/10
Roulette score: 8.1
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jingle.boy
Trans-Siberian Orchestra
First impression: Musically, it's amazing, but some of the vocals could be better.
Final review: It may have been more fitting to have reviewed this back around the time when Round 5 started, but I think Trans-Siberian Orchestra is good enough that you could listen to their music at any other time of the year and still get a lot out of it. So, this is a band that makes a lot of Christmas music, but puts a rock/metal spin on it. There’s some great covers of familiar songs, but (to my knowledge) there’s some original content as well. The band does well with composing both, and while I slightly prefer the more original stuff, the covers are just about as good. “A Mad Russian’s Christmas” is an instrumental, and contains a few familiar Christmas melodies (which, to be honest, I couldn’t name any of them), and while it gets a bit repetitive at points, it’s still a fun listen. “Good King Joy” is the best song out of the four I’ve heard. It starts off as a cover of Joy to the World (and a pretty good one, at that), but then goes into an original composition, which is where it gets really good. The piano intro is great, and it gets better when the whole band joins in. The vocals are great, too; I’m not sure what my issue with the vocals was my first time listening to these songs. I guess there’s a couple lines in “Old City Bar” that I found a little odd, but that’s really not a problem. Incidentally, Old City Bar is my least favorite of the songs I listened to, but it’s not bad. It’s just a quiet ballad where the focus is more on the vocals and lyrics. While it’s good, it’s just a little less interesting than the other songs I heard. But overall, very good stuff! I’ve heard of Trans-Siberian Orchestra before (and I’ve actually seen them in concert a few years ago) and just thought they did Christmas song covers, but they’ve got more than that, and like I said, their original songs are where they’re at their best.
A Mad Russian’s Christmas - 7.75/10
Good King Joy - 8.75/10
Old City Bar - 7.5/10
Christmas Eve / Sarajevo - 8/10
Roulette score: 8.0
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Luoto
Wintersun
First impression: There's a lot going on here, but I think this will end up as something I greatly enjoy.
Final review: This is another one of those bands that I feel is very dense in terms of how much is put into their music. I’ve given this artist quite a few listens, but I still feel like I haven’t absorbed all of it, so I apologize if this review seems lacking. Wintersun has a similar style to bands like Fireproven, in that the primary aspect is metal, but there is room for some experimental stuff. The main thing I’m drawn to with these songs is actually the lyrics, and how the vocal performance conveys them. That’s not to say the other parts aren’t good, because they definitely are. But when I think of the best moments of these songs, it’s usually the vocals/lyrics. I feel a lot of emotion from the lyrics, especially in “Time”. The lyrics convey a sense of hopelessness, but yet there’s also some hopefulness in it (if that makes any sense), and the way it’s delivered comes across as powerful. Some of the harsher vocals can be a bit much sometimes, but usually the vocals work out really well. It’s hard to pinpoint any instrumental moments I particularly like out of both of these songs, but it’s consistently enjoyable. Both of these songs are rather lengthy, but despite the density and overall runtime, neither one feels overlong. I like Wintersun quite a bit, but I just need more listens to really absorb and appreciate the music.
Land of Snow and Sorrow - 8/10
Darkness and Frost / Time - 8.25/10
Roulette score: 8.1
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Iamthemorning
Evermind
First impression: Very pleasant and beautiful music.
Final review: Iamthemorning is, as I described in my initial impression, pleasant and beautiful music. It’s pretty relaxing, even in the moments where the music gets more upbeat. The music is piano/keyboard-driven, and there’s some pretty female vocals on top of everything else. I really like the sound here, but honestly I feel like I like it less than I should. And I do like this, it’s just not quite as great as I feel like I would consider it. “Freak Show” is probably my favorite song here. It’s got the stuff I like about this band (relaxing atmosphere, lots of piano) but also has more to it than just that. There’s a couple upbeat sections, one of which has an electric guitar solo, and another which has a saxophone solo. Another song I like is “Lighthouse”. It’s a much quieter song than Freak Show, and while it’s just piano and vocals until the last two minutes, it’s really nice to listen to. In the last two minutes, an acoustic guitar is added in, plus a male vocalist who sounds quite alright as well. I will be honest, though, and say that there really isn’t much else I can think of to say about Iamthemorning. They make good music, and they’re good at what they do, and I like the style and sound that they go for. It’s just difficult for me to say anything beyond what I’ve stated already: They make relaxing music that’s quite pleasant to listen to. And they’re an artist that I’d like to hear more from.
Freak Show - 8/10
Scotland - 7.5/10
Os Lunatum - 7.75/10
Lighthouse - 8/10
Roulette score: 7.8
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kingshmegland
The Pineapple Thief
First impression: VERY reminiscent of a certain artist I really like.
Final review: Making these writeups, I tend to draw comparisons to other artists when talking about a certain band. And with The Pineapple Thief, I think most people could agree that there’s some level of similarity to Porcupine Tree (or really, Steven Wilson in general). They’ve got a mellow, sometimes melancholic sound, and the singer sounds a lot like Steven Wilson himself. Like, if I heard the beginning of “In Exile” without knowing anything about the song or who made it, I’d probably assume that this was just some song Steven Wilson made at some point in his career. And to compare the overall quality to Porcupine Tree, I’d say they’re good, but not as great as Porcupine Tree. Then again, the way I see it, you’ve gotta be consistently really amazing to match the level of quality that Porcupine Tree has. But like I said, The Pineapple Thief is pretty enjoyable. The songs are good, the music is pretty diverse while maintaining the same general style. In Exile is a calm song, mainly focusing on the vocals but still having some interesting instrumentals. “Last Man Standing” goes back and forth between more subtle verses and high-energy choruses. And “Tightly Wound” is a more unique song, with an interesting style of vocals. The only flaw this band seems to have is with the lyrical content. This may just be me comparing the band to Steven Wilson again, but the lyric writing feels more simple, and at times it comes across as weird (“Now look what you’ve done, you’ve made me throw up on your flooooor”). Sure, Steven Wilson has some weird lyrics at times (“XBOX is a god to me”) but with those lyrics I feel like he’s writing about more complex things. To me, the songs here tend to come across as lyrics about a bad relationship, or something similar to that. Not that there’s anything inherently wrong with that (Lightbulb Sun has a few songs focusing on the negative aspects of relationships, and I love that album), but it just doesn’t feel as deep or well-written to me. While I wouldn’t put this band on the same level as Porcupine Tree, I still think they’re pretty good, and it’s nice to listen to another band that has the same general sound and mood that Porcupine Tree conveys.
In Exile - 7.75/10
Last Man Standing - 7.75/10
Far Below - 7.75/10
Tightly Wound - 8/10
Roulette score: 7.8
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And thus concludes the second batch of results.
Next time on “Revenge319’s relatively normal roulette”… We see the final artists of this round reviewed, and the winner shall be determined.
And then after that, I’ll go over some miscellaneous stuff, such as statistics and my thoughts on taking on this roulette.
I hope to see you all at the finale.
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Do yourself a favor and listen to the rest of Ashes Against The Grain. It's so good that Not Unlike The Waves isn't even one of the best songs on it. ;)
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Glad you liked Mew. I had the same feelings about the singer. Didn’t think I’d like him and then I did. Comforting Sounds is definitely the song by them, though I’ve only heard the three albums I sent songs from. I love how that ending builds and builds. In general I prefer the more symphonic and electronic side to the heavier side of the band, but I think a lot of people prefer the heavier from what I can tell.
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Do yourself a favor and listen to the rest of Ashes Against The Grain. It's so good that Not Unlike The Waves isn't even one of the best songs on it. ;)
Is that so? Well, that makes me even more interested to listen to more of Agalloch's discography!
Glad you liked Mew. I had the same feelings about the singer. Didn’t think I’d like him and then I did. Comforting Sounds is definitely the song by them, though I’ve only heard the three albums I sent songs from. I love how that ending builds and builds. In general I prefer the more symphonic and electronic side to the heavier side of the band, but I think a lot of people prefer the heavier from what I can tell.
Yeah, I'd say I prefer the symphonic/electronic side as well, although I do enjoy the heavy rock stuff, too. I like them about equally, really; I think I mainly just like how it all comes together.
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tfw no me, no cyril, no luke in the second batch, and the third batch has the favorites... :corn
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tfw no me, no cyril, no luke in the second batch, and the third batch has the favorites... :corn
Yep, making us wait until that final round! This shit is gonna be close and I'm 90% certain I'll have blown it in the final round :loser:
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tfw no me, no cyril, no luke in the second batch, and the third batch has the favorites... :corn
Yep, making us wait until that final round! This ahit is gonna be close and I'm 90% certain I'll have blown it in the final round :loser:
I'll say this much for now: For the rest of the submissions, I haven't given a total score for them yet (I always make the roulette score after reviewing to ensure my ratings are accurate). As such, even though I have a general idea of how much I like each artist, I don't actually know who will be the winner of this roulette, or even this round. So I'm pretty excited to find out who will be the winner, too!
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5. The symphonic elements here are great, and add a lot to the already pretty good music.
6. There's so much energy here that it's crazy... and I like it!
11. This is some of the strangest and most insane music I've ever listened to.
12. Not bad by any means, but it is a bit of a step down from the other artists that I've been sent by the person who sent this.
13. This is only the first time I've listened to this, but this could potentially end up as one of my favorite artists of the whole roulette.
18. Really interesting stuff here! I think this will end up as one of my favorites of this round.
and what's left:
romdrums: Meshuggah
Cyril: Mithras
Lethean: Angra
twosuitsluke: Thank You Scientist
Cardiacs
Metallica
too lazy to figure out who sent cardiacs and metallica by process of elimination but i assume 425 sent the latter based on comments
TYS will be the round winner btw calling it now
#5 is pretty obviously Metallica given that it's the symphony concert
#11 is probably Cardiacs
the other 4 no clue which is which
#12 being an artist that got into the "favorites" implies an "it grew on me" comment incoming also :lol
since the rest of these are all really positive
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I sent Metallica. Most likely impression for me is obviously #5, although I guess you could argue that Angra has symphonic elements.
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Thanks Revenge. I loved being in your Roulette.
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Thanks Revenge. I loved being in your Roulette.
Thank you! Getting to the end (well, I suppose at the moment it'd be more accurate to say "very close to the end") has been a long time coming, but I'm glad to hear you enjoyed it despite all the delays!
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Do yourself a favor and listen to the rest of Ashes Against The Grain. It's so good that Not Unlike The Waves isn't even one of the best songs on it. ;)
This is mostly true, however I still believe that Not Unlike the Waves is a great song to introduce someone to Agalloch. Our Fortress is Burning is one that a lot of people call their favorite. Fire Above, Ice Below has one of the best buildups in all of music. Limbs and Falling Snow is a great 1, 2 punch right out of the gates.
As far as The Birth and Death of the Pillars of Creation goes, I've never heard anyone else say they love that song quite like I do. I can't really describe why I do, other than I just instantly connected with it both musically and lyrically. The music has this almost mournful dirge-like quality to it that fits the lyrics extremely well. I do feel it's an often overlooked gem.
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5. The symphonic elements here are great, and add a lot to the already pretty good music.
6. There's so much energy here that it's crazy... and I like it!
11. This is some of the strangest and most insane music I've ever listened to.
12. Not bad by any means, but it is a bit of a step down from the other artists that I've been sent by the person who sent this.
13. This is only the first time I've listened to this, but this could potentially end up as one of my favorite artists of the whole roulette.
18. Really interesting stuff here! I think this will end up as one of my favorites of this round.
and what's left:
romdrums: Meshuggah
Cyril: Mithras
Lethean: Angra
twosuitsluke: Thank You Scientist
Cardiacs
Metallica
too lazy to figure out who sent cardiacs and metallica by process of elimination but i assume 425 sent the latter based on comments
TYS will be the round winner btw calling it now
#5 is pretty obviously Metallica given that it's the symphony concert
#11 is probably Cardiacs
the other 4 no clue which is which
#12 being an artist that got into the "favorites" implies an "it grew on me" comment incoming also :lol
since the rest of these are all really positive
I already claimed #11 a few weeks ago pages back and I did indeed send Cardiacs.
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jingle.boy
Trans-Siberian Orchestra
Final review: It may have been more fitting to have reviewed this back around the time when Round 5 started,
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So when are you planning to put us out of our misery?
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So when are you planning to put us out of our misery?
The last of the results will be out by March 6th at the latest.
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Status update: It's more likely that the final results will be out tomorrow, but depending on my efficiency, I could have the results out tonight.
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Really looking forward to the results
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Hey, I'm willing to wait my whole lifetime for a 9/10.
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Hey, I'm willing to wait my whole lifetime for a 9/10.
Do you mean for this specific round/artist or just in general? If you mean that generally speaking, you've got at least two of them; I gave The Poet and the Pendulum a 9.5/10 and The Great Escape a 9/10 (the latter giving your Round 3 submission a score of 9.0).
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I was just making a joke on the lyrics of one of my submissions and the idea of being patient. ;)
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Status update: It's more likely that the final results will be out tomorrow, but depending on my efficiency, I could have the results out tonight.
Well I'm hoping on tonight!
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Here's my plan: I only have two writeups left, and those should be done pretty soon! So, I'm gonna get the final results out tonight, but the post-results stuff that I want to go over will come tomorrow.
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The time has finally come. Results 3/3 is now here!
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Lethean
Angra
First impression: This is only the first time I've listened to this, but this could potentially end up as one of my favorite artists of the whole roulette.
Final review: Angra is so, so good. I could tell you to just go listen to it right now for proof of that and stop the review right here, but I’ve gotta do it some justice with my words! So, Angra makes progressive rock/metal music, and it has a unique aesthetic that I don’t usually hear in other music. The first time I heard “Carolina IV”, I thought it was great. I think what tipped me off that this band (or at least this song) was something special was that when the song ended (which is over 10 minutes, by the way), I was disappointed that it was over. And upon repeated listens, it just got better and better. I love how progressive this song is, in terms of the various styles and changes it goes through. It starts off pleasant and upbeat, but then it changes to being fast and more guitar-driven. The vocals in this song are amazing, and in general they’re amazing. There’s this absolutely beautiful part, where the vocals and music create this sort of dreamy atmosphere (“I’ve been such a fool, I’ve been so afraid”). The tempo drops as the song enters a great instrumental section, with a pretty good guitar solo. There’s a piano solo to cap it off, and then it slows down and the song stops… but it doesn’t end there! There’s not too much new after another energetic instrumental section (featuring an even better guitar solo than the last one!), but this song is so fantastic, it doesn’t really need any more ideas than what it’s already got. Now, Carolina IV is easily my favorite song out of what I’ve heard, but all four of these other songs are really great, too. “The Shadow Hunter” is another progressive track that’s somewhat lengthy. It’s not as energetic as Carolina IV, but it manages to be great through other means. The vocals on this song are really good as usual; there’s a section where the band quiets down a fair bit, and the following verse (“What does a man gain from his work?”) is just so good, and I wish it was longer. But there’s great instrumental work here, too. The highlights are the instrumental section following that verse I love so much, and there’s this really cool part at the end of the song that I feel could’ve been fleshed out more. They could’ve extended that part by two minutes, and I would’ve loved every second of it. To talk about one more song (because going into detail about every one could take a while), “Upper Levels” is another favorite of mine. It has this really cool bass intro, and it goes through some exciting changes from there, both heavy and melodic. And have I talked about how Angra songs always have good vocals? Because that’s just how it is with Angra songs. I had no specific expectations for Angra going in, but they are easily one of the best bands I’ve been sent in this entire roulette. Fantastic stuff. And because this review will only get longer, I’m just gonna end it here and ask that you please listen to this band now, especially if you never have before.
Carolina IV - 9.5/10
Acid Rain - 8.5/10
The Shadow Hunter - 9/10
Ego Painted Grey - 8.5/10
Upper Levels - 9/10
Roulette score: 8.9
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Elite
Cardiacs
First impression: This is some of the strangest and most insane music I've ever listened to.
Final review: Before, I didn’t even know it was possible for a band like this to exist. The music that these people make is so bizarre and insane. This is nothing like anything I’ve ever heard in my life. But you know what? Something like this is perfectly fine by me, because I really like this. I have no idea whether I should be surprised by that, but I’m certainly not complaining. It’s honestly hard to describe what the music actually is, just because of how unique it is. I mean, I guess you could call it some form of rock, but Cardiacs doesn’t feel like any particular genre. Cardiacs is just… Cardiacs. That’s all there is to it. “She is Hiding Behind the Shed” is as good a showcase as any as to what this band does. It starts out normally enough with an energetic keyboard riff, but then the first verse begins and you’re treated to the vocalists singing/yelling. The vocals are strange, but they’re charming and fit in really well with the music. The music is consistently really catchy, and this song in particular is something of an earworm. “Dog-Like Sparky” is very absurdist not just with its music, but also with its lyrics. Not that the other songs have normal lyrics, but this one’s really over-the-top. One thing I really enjoy about this song musically, which I wish I heard in more songs, is a constant change in tempo. It starts out slow in the first verse, then the chorus gradually gets faster, then it gets slow again as it goes to the next verse. There’s some parts with a female singer (at least, it sounds feminine; I can never be too sure with Cardiacs) that really mess with the tempo, and it’s just so good. “Duck and Roger the Horse” is the craziest out of all the songs I’ve heard. It’s just shy of four minutes of erratic, enjoyable madness. This is a song that I can’t really describe at all beyond that; you just have to hear it to figure out what’s going on here. “Dirty Boy” is the most normal song here, but it’s certainly got that eccentric charm that makes Cardiacs so great. The last two minutes or so of this song is really interesting. It sounds like when the singer ends the last verse, he just keeps holding the last note for the rest of the song. And it’s a pretty high and loud note, so if that was actually done in one take for two minutes straight, that is VERY impressive. That’s a word to describe this artist as a whole for me, too. For how bizarre Cardiacs is, I really enjoy this. This is basically the antithesis to my mentality on listening to music before doing this roulette. Before, I thought that I may as well just stick with my favorites, because I’ve pretty much seen all there is in terms of good music. Cardiacs proves that not only is that statement wrong, but also that I don’t think I’ll ever truly see everything there is in music in general, unless I were to literally listen to every song by every artist ever made.
She is Hiding Behind the Shed - 8.5/10
Dog-Like Sparky - 8.75/10
Duck and Roger the Horse - 8.25/10
Dirty Boy - 8.5/10
Roulette score: 8.5
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romdrums
Meshuggah
First impression: There's so much energy here that it's crazy... and I like it!
Final review: This band is… intense, to say the least. Meshuggah is all about extreme energy and technicality. The music’s very heavy, the vocals are particularly aggressive, there’s a slower section on occasion, and it’s all written in such a complex way. I don’t understand music theory at all, but from listening to these songs, it’s clear that they’re all pretty complex in composition. Sometimes the music can sound like a disorganized mess, but everything really does come together here. Even if I didn’t like this band, I’d still easily recognize the sheer talent that goes into composing these songs. And yeah, I like this band quite a bit. “Future Breed Machine” is amazing. It is just such a satisfying listen every time I listen to it. The intro with the beeping noise leading into that brutal riff is so, so good. I am disappointed that I lack the writing skills to really convey how awesome the chorus is. There’s even a part where the intensity stops and goes into a more melodic section, and it manages to do so without killing the momentum. The other songs may not reach the heights that Future Breed Machine does, but they’re still really good. “Clockworks” would be my least favorite. There’s not really anything wrong with it; it’s just a good, enjoyable Meshuggah song (much like any Meshuggah song, I’d assume). I just think seven minutes might be a little too long for the song. There’s not really anything I’d want cut out, but I think if they’d made this song and it ended up being one or two minutes shorter, I don’t think anything of value would’ve been lost. “Bleed” is an interesting one. A large part of the guitar’s contribution to the song is a repetitive riff with not much variety in how it sounds most of the time. But the band somehow makes it work quite well! The vocals keep things interesting, there’s a slow soundscape-ish section, and they do give some variety to the guitar to keep it from having just one note being played. But good songwriting is kind of to be expected from Meshuggah. Honestly, the only downside with the band (and this is a very minor one) is that with the style of music they do, and how it’s all composed, the songs do kinda sound the same. But the songs do have their own distinct qualities; it’s not as though I feel like they’re writing the same song over and over again. It doesn’t really bother me, though, since with a band like this, it’d probably be hard to make things really diverse while not straying from your core sound. So, yeah… I like Meshuggah. Very good and impressive band.
Future Breed Machine - 9/10
Clockworks - 7.75/10
Rational Gaze - 8/10
Bleed - 8.25/10
Roulette score: 8.3
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425
Metallica (Live with the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra)
First impression: The symphonic elements here are great, and add a lot to the already pretty good music.
Final review: A bit of background here, since I am talking about a band as well-known as Metallica: I’ve actually barely ever heard Metallica’s music in my life. I think I listened to the song Master of Puppets once, but since my parents never had any interest in them (I hear them say they think Metallica is a bad band quite a bit), I guess I just never bothered to seek them out for the most part. So I’m basically new to Metallica, and I’ve never heard any of the songs that I was sent before this roulette. So while I can’t judge the original versions of these songs, I can at least say these live symphonic arrangements are pretty enjoyable! “The Call of Ktulu” is a pretty good instrumental. While it’s not something I find particularly memorable, it’s an enjoyable and interesting listen from start to finish, and I never find myself bored despite its 9+ minute runtime. “The Outlaw Torn” is also pretty good. I admit I don’t have much to say besides that I like the chorus and that the guitar riff in the intro is really good, but like The Call of Ktulu it’s consistently interesting and enjoyable to listen to. Oh, and the instrumental section at the end is pretty cool, too. Now, there is one song here that I like more than the others, and that is “One”. Not only is it my favorite of the four Metallica songs I’ve heard, but I think in terms of the symphonic arrangements for each song, they used the symphony to its best potential here. The song is a bit somber for the first half, and the orchestra helps to convey a little extra emotion in this part of the song. Since I haven’t mentioned it yet, I will say that Hetfield’s vocals are good. Nothing special, but they’re definitely good, and he has some great moments during the more aggressive parts. Speaking of that, the second half of this song gets a lot more energetic. There’s a couple verses which are sung quickly, and at the end is a cathartic “NO, NO, NO NO NO!”, and afterwards, the band just goes into overdrive, and it’s amazing. What’s even better, the orchestra is even utilized really well here! They’re playing at just about the same speed as the band is. And it keeps going and going and doesn’t let up until the end of the song. Great stuff right here. Metallica is a band I’ve not been familiar with at all until now, but I think after hearing some of what they’ve got to offer, even in a different fashion from normal, I’d say I’m quite interested in seeing what else they’ve got to offer, both with their original studio releases and these live symphony performances.
The Call of Ktulu - 8.5/10
One - 8.75/10
Hero of the Day - 7.75/10
The Outlaw Torn - 8/10
Roulette score: 8.3
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Cyril
Mithras
First impression: Not bad by any means, but it is a bit of a step down from the other artists that I've been sent by the person who sent this.
Final review: I’ll admit, the first time I listened to this, I did almost think that Cyril blew it with sending this one. The music wasn’t as interesting as the other stuff I’d received from him, and I found the vocals really strange. However… This one has grown on me considerably! Mithras is an unusual band, but listening to them again and again, I’ve come to think that this is really good. Musically, it’s pretty diverse. It’s got a death metal style to it, but there are times when it’s more melodic, and at times it’s even quieter and more relaxed. But then there’s also points where the intensity goes so far, it becomes just as brutal as something like Meshuggah. While not every part is consistently enjoyable, there’s so many individual parts of these songs that I really like. The opening riff of “Why Do We Live?”, the verses of WDWL? (in which that very question is asked), the fast-paced intro of “When the Stars Align”, the “Who could know the mysteries of life itself?” verse in WtSA, the almost relentless stretch of music that is “The Outer Dark”, the extreme moments in “Inside the Godmind”, the reprise of WDWL? In “On Strange Loops”... I could probably keep going with examples of good moments from the songs I’ve heard. There are moments I’m not as fond of, though. For instance, while “The Statue on the Island” has some nice melodic moments, as a whole it’s not quite as interesting as the two songs that preceded it. Inside the Godmind is really brutal, which I like, but then towards the end, they take it too far by having these really weird growling vocals, and they just don’t sound that good. Plus, the words just become an intangible mess at that point. The vocals are otherwise pretty good, and it’s easy to tell what’s being sung. But here, I almost can’t make out anything at all in this section. Fortunately, the rest of Inside the Godmind and The Outer Dark is really good, so it doesn’t hurt the enjoyment of these songs too much. Another thing I like, though, is this sort of “outer space” vibe I get from the music, which I’m guessing was intentional based on the album cover of On Strange Loops. Mithras isn’t a favorite of mine, but the positives here definitely outweigh the negatives. All things considered, I think this is some great music.
Why Do We Live?/When the Stars Align/The Statue on the Island - 8.25
Inside the Godmind/The Outer Dark - 8.5
On Strange Loops - 8.25
Roulette score: 8.3
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twosuitsluke
Thank You Scientist
First impression: Really interesting stuff here! I think this will end up as one of my favorites of this round.
Final review: I was pretty excited to listen to this band when it got submitted to me, and Thank You Scientist certainly doesn’t disappoint! I do feel like I should enjoy these guys a lot more than I do, but considering that I really like this band already, I’m sure their music will just keep growing on me over time. There’s not really any flaw to be found with this band that I can see. There’s great compositions, a lot of memorable moments, a great singer, a variety of instruments, interesting instrumentals… Yeah, Thank You Scientist has just about everything I love to hear in this type of band. Honestly, it’s hard to pick a favorite song out of three I’ve listened to. They’re all about equally great. “A Salesman’s Guide to Non-Existence” is an accessible song that shows you just what this band’s like. There’s some brass instruments throughout this song (and the others), and they feel like such a natural fit for the songs. The vocals are quite pleasant. They remind me of Claudio Sanchez from Coheed and Cambria, both in general sound, and also how it can sound like both a male and female voice. I can’t really think of any one highlight for this song, but that’s probably because I greatly enjoy every single part of it. It’s just a fun, energetic song. “FXMLDR” kinda feels like a follow-up to A Salesman’s Guide to Non-Existence, though that might just be because they have similar intros. FXMLDR goes in different directions, though. While it keeps the core sound of the band, there’s more atmospheric moments, and the chorus is more anthemic than in ASGtN-E. I really like the burst of energy at around 2:28, especially with the fast guitar playing. “Psychopomp” is quite a bit different from the other two songs. The intro has this slightly ominous feel to it, and it’s pretty cool. The song in general also has a more metal sound to the guitars, in contrast to the rock sound that the other two songs have. The chorus is rather long, but considering it’s one of the most satisfying parts of the song for me, that’s no problem to me. The ending’s kinda weird; it’s this crackly static noise, and a man contemplates the meaning of his existence. It’s odd, but I’m assuming this makes more sense in context of the full album. But it’s not as though I don’t like the ending, because I think it’s a pretty good ending all the same. This might not be the highest-scoring submission of the roulette, but I think by the time I’ve gone through and absorbed their discography, Thank You Scientist will likely be among my favorite artists. Without a doubt, this is a very great band.
A Salesman’s Guide to Non-Existence - 8.75/10
FXMLDR - 8.75/10
Psychopomp - 8.75/10
Roulette score: 8.8
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And that is all the results of Round 5. It’s been a long time coming, but we’ve finally reached the end! Final standings coming in the next post...
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Spoiler .... next post coming in July.
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Now, for the winner...
It was a bit close between the top three, but one player stands victorious over the rest.
And that winner is...
(fireworks) twosuitsluke! (fireworks)
Congratulations!
FINAL STANDINGS:
twosuitsluke: 8.6 + 8.6 + 8.9 + 9.3 + 8.8 = 44.2
425: 8.9 + 8.4 + 9.0 + 8.8 + 8.3 = 43.4
Cyril: 8.8 + 9.0 + 8.4 + 8.7 + 8.3 = 43.2
Buddyhunter1: 8.9 + 8.0 + 8.8 + 8.2 + 8.4 = 42.3
Evermind: 8.6 + 8.6 + 8.3 + 8.6 + 7.8 = 41.9
Lethean: 7.7 + 8.2 + 8.7 + 8.2 + 8.9 = 41.7
Elite: 8.1 + 7.7 + 8.3 + 8.4 + 8.5 = 41.0
romdrums: 8.4 + 8.1 + 7.0 + 9.0 + 8.3 = 40.8
kingshmegland: 8.2 + 7.8 + 8.5 + 8.3 + 7.8 = 40.6
jingle.boy: 7.9 + 8.1 + 8.1 + 7.9 + 8.0 = 40.0
Sacul: 8.2 + 8.6 + 8.3 + 8.0 + 6.8 = 39.9
TAC: 7.8 + 8.4 + 8.4 + 7.9 + 7.4 = 39.9
Luoto: 8.3 + 7.6 + 7.8 + 8.1 + 8.1 = 39.9
MoraWintersoul: 8.3 + 8.1 + 7.9 + 7.8 + 7.4 = 39.5
HOF: 7.6 + 7.6 + 8.3 + 7.4 + 8.1 = 39.0
Stadler: 6.4 + 8.6 + 7.8 + 7.9 + 8.1 = 38.8
Puppies_On_Acid: 7.8 + 6.6 + 8.6 + 7.4 + 8.1 = 38.5
Anguyen92: 7.9 + 7.3 + 7.1 + 7.6 + 7.8 = 37.7
Nekov: 8.2 + 7.4 + 8.5 + 7.6 = 31.7
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i do recommend at least checking out that album in full, i've basically sent the first and last 14ish minutes of it meaning there's a whole half of it left to hear :P it honestly plays better as a whole than it does individual tracks
thank you scientist are also really great so i don't really mind losing to them :lol
(i did a video about them (https://youtu.be/j6umJBo_XDE)! none of the songs you were sent made the cut, either, so the best is yet to come imo)
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Not last!
Congrats, twosuitsluke!
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Oh man, I got my hopes up a bit after seeing I tied Cyril. But congratulations, Luke, on a well-deserved win! First one, right?
Revenge, glad you overcame the family prejudice against Metallica. The thing about a band as big is them is that everyone has an opinion on them, and often that opinion is based on only a certain part of what they do. I think it's really worth exploring their entire discography without any preconceived notions and with the awareness that there's probably going to be some stuff that you don't like. Hopefully these songs have inspired you to do just that. Glad you really got into that last instrumental part of One—just one of the best sections in all of metal, IMO.
In general, I was glad to get to introduce you to a lot of really cool stuff during this roulette, including a lot of stuff that you seemed to really like (I think you put two of my favorite songs period, The Poet and the Pendulum and The Great Escape, among your favorite submissions of the roulette). This was a fun one to participate in, regardless of how long it lasted, because of your enthusiasm and thoughtful writeups. And it's always fun to introduce someone to a lot of new material when they're closer to the beginning of their musical journey. Thanks for running this and sticking it out, and thanks for having me!
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The time has finally come. Results 3/3 is now here!
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Lethean
Angra
First impression: This is only the first time I've listened to this, but this could potentially end up as one of my favorite artists of the whole roulette.
Final review: Angra is so, so good. I could tell you to just go listen to it right now for proof of that and stop the review right here, but I’ve gotta do it some justice with my words! So, Angra makes progressive rock/metal music, and it has a unique aesthetic that I don’t usually hear in other music. The first time I heard “Carolina IV”, I thought it was great. I think what tipped me off that this band (or at least this song) was something special was that when the song ended (which is over 10 minutes, by the way), I was disappointed that it was over. And upon repeated listens, it just got better and better. I love how progressive this song is, in terms of the various styles and changes it goes through. It starts off pleasant and upbeat, but then it changes to being fast and more guitar-driven. The vocals in this song are amazing, and in general they’re amazing. There’s this absolutely beautiful part, where the vocals and music create this sort of dreamy atmosphere (“I’ve been such a fool, I’ve been so afraid”). The tempo drops as the song enters a great instrumental section, with a pretty good guitar solo. There’s a piano solo to cap it off, and then it slows down and the song stops… but it doesn’t end there! There’s not too much new after another energetic instrumental section (featuring an even better guitar solo than the last one!), but this song is so fantastic, it doesn’t really need any more ideas than what it’s already got. Now, Carolina IV is easily my favorite song out of what I’ve heard, but all four of these other songs are really great, too. “The Shadow Hunter” is another progressive track that’s somewhat lengthy. It’s not as energetic as Carolina IV, but it manages to be great through other means. The vocals on this song are really good as usual; there’s a section where the band quiets down a fair bit, and the following verse (“What does a man gain from his work?”) is just so good, and I wish it was longer. But there’s great instrumental work here, too. The highlights are the instrumental section following that verse I love so much, and there’s this really cool part at the end of the song that I feel could’ve been fleshed out more. They could’ve extended that part by two minutes, and I would’ve loved every second of it. To talk about one more song (because going into detail about every one could take a while), “Upper Levels” is another favorite of mine. It has this really cool bass intro, and it goes through some exciting changes from there, both heavy and melodic. And have I talked about how Angra songs always have good vocals? Because that’s just how it is with Angra songs. I had no specific expectations for Angra going in, but they are easily one of the best bands I’ve been sent in this entire roulette. Fantastic stuff. And because this review will only get longer, I’m just gonna end it here and ask that you please listen to this band now, especially if you never have before.
Carolina IV - 9.5/10
Acid Rain - 8.5/10
The Shadow Hunter - 9/10
Ego Painted Grey - 8.5/10
Upper Levels - 9/10
Roulette score: 8.9
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A reaction like this is why I participate in roulettes and is what I always hope for. I'm so glad you enjoyed Angra so much. You're in for a treat exploring their catalog. I tried to include a good variety of albums and you seem to enjoy it all, as I do. Also, they're a great live band and I highly recommend seeing them when things eventually get back to normal.
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Congrats ariich!
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i do recommend at least checking out that album in full, i've basically sent the first and last 14ish minutes of it meaning there's a whole half of it left to hear :P it honestly plays better as a whole than it does individual tracks
thank you scientist are also really great so i don't really mind losing to them :lol
(i did a video about them (https://youtu.be/j6umJBo_XDE)! none of the songs you were sent made the cut, either, so the best is yet to come imo)
Yeah, I want to give the whole album "On Strange Loops" a listen at some point.
I'll definitely check out your video on Thank You Scientist at some point, but first I want to listen to their discography; that way, I'd be able to compare your rankings to what my rankings would be.
Oh man, I got my hopes up a bit after seeing I tied Cyril. But congratulations, Luke, on a well-deserved win! First one, right?
Revenge, glad you overcame the family prejudice against Metallica. The thing about a band as big is them is that everyone has an opinion on them, and often that opinion is based on only a certain part of what they do. I think it's really worth exploring their entire discography without any preconceived notions and with the awareness that there's probably going to be some stuff that you don't like. Hopefully these songs have inspired you to do just that. Glad you really got into that last instrumental part of One—just one of the best sections in all of metal, IMO.
In general, I was glad to get to introduce you to a lot of really cool stuff during this roulette, including a lot of stuff that you seemed to really like (I think you put two of my favorite songs period, The Poet and the Pendulum and The Great Escape, among your favorite submissions of the roulette). This was a fun one to participate in, regardless of how long it lasted, because of your enthusiasm and thoughtful writeups. And it's always fun to introduce someone to a lot of new material when they're closer to the beginning of their musical journey. Thanks for running this and sticking it out, and thanks for having me!
I do want to check out Metallica's discography now, thanks to getting an opportunity to listen to it! Going through all of their albums should be interesting; I do know some things about Metallica's history despite being unfamiliar with the music itself until recently, and I've heard a lot that they've got some albums that a lot of people dislike. But I'll never know for myself if I don't try, right?
And I'm glad you could help introduce me to a variety of new music! I've always liked symphonic elements in music, but I think your submissions really helped me realize just how much I love that in music. Nice to know that we share a love for The Poet and the Pendulum (though if it's one of your all-time favorites, you probably love it way more than I do)! Also glad to hear you enjoyed my writeups! While it can be difficult to think of things to say sometimes, I enjoy writing my thoughts about music. I don't think I'm that great at it yet, but I want to keep writing to hopefully keep improving. And regarding that last part, you're welcome, and thank you for joining! :)
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A reaction like this is why I participate in roulettes and is what I always hope for. I'm so glad you enjoyed Angra so much. You're in for a treat exploring their catalog. I tried to include a good variety of albums and you seem to enjoy it all, as I do. Also, they're a great live band and I highly recommend seeing them when things eventually get back to normal.
I can imagine it's a satisfying payoff seeing high praise for what you've submitted. I absolutely want to listen to more of Angra's discography. I'll have to see if I can find any live videos of them, too!
Congrats ariich!
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Well, this is gonna be a long post.
Going over some other things, I first want to add in a proper ranking, but instead of showing the total scores for each player, I’ll instead list all the artists sent by each person. There’s a lot of artists that I listened to, and while you can find them all in the opening post, this is a good place to see who sent what, and in what round. Think of this like an ending credits, I suppose.
THE RANKINGS
1. twosuitsluke (Coheed and Cambria / The Dear Hunter / The Black Mages / Mastodon / Thank You Scientist)
2. 425 (Nightwish / Kamelot / Seventh Wonder / Blind Guardian / Metallica)
3. Cyril (The Hirsch Effekt / East of the Wall / Exist / A Novelist / Mithras)
4. Buddyhunter1 (Devin Townsend / David Maxim Micic / Riverside / Anamanaguchi / Periphery)
5. Evermind (Beyond the Bridge / Avantasia / Pain of Salvation / Ayreon / Iamthemorning)
6. Lethean (Katatonia / Leprous / Riverside / Threshold / Angra)
7. Elite (The Ocean / Wilderun / Pain of Salvation / Ulver / Cardiacs)
8. romdrums (Genesis / IQ / Karnivool / Mastodon / Meshuggah)
9. kingshmegland (Rush / Muse / Mile Marker Zero / Barock Project / The Pineapple Thief)
10. jingle.boy (Led Zeppelin / Pink Floyd / Queensryche / AC/DC / Trans-Siberian Orchestra)
11. Sacul (Anathema / Steven Wilson / Riverside / Portishead / Massive Attack)
12. TAC (UFO / Teramaze / Burden of Life / Fates Warning / Lost Domain)
13. Luoto (Amorphis / Ne Obliviscaris / Iced Earth / Fireproven / Wintersun)
14. MoraWintersoul (Chroma Key / Sonata Arctica / Queen / Conception / Unleash the Archers)
15. HOF (Journey / Kip Winger / Big Big Train / McStine & Minnemann / Mew)
16. Stadler (KISS / Iron Maiden / Deep Purple / Rainbow / Black Sabbath)
17. Puppies_On_Acid (Marillion / Moonsorrow / Oceansize / Arch/Matheos / Agalloch)
18. Anguyen92 (Alter Bridge / Switchfoot / Black Stone Cherry / Soundgarden / Within Temptation)
19. Nekov (Frost* / Alcest / Spock's Beard / Pure Reason Revolution)
I also wanted to make a list of my top 10 favorite songs from the entire roulette, but I don’t think I could make that in one day. Instead, what I’ll do is just post a list of my favorite songs which would all be worthy of a placement in the Top 10, and update the song’s ratings if they’re now different. (I will display the original score, then the new score. Example: 9 > 9.5. If only one score is shown, it hasn’t been changed since my original rating.) Also, all the new scores don’t affect the standings of the roulette, because it’d be kind of unfair to re-score some of the results, especially after the roulette is finished. And it'd be a lot of work, anyway.
- Hyperventilate (9.5)
- Black Light Machine (9.25)
- The Poet and the Pendulum (9.5)
- Forced Entry (8.5 > 9.5)
- Twisted Mind (9.5 > 9.75)
- A Night on the Town (9 > 9.5)
- The Apologist (9 > 9.5)
- Writhe (8.5 > 9)
- The Architect (8.75 > 9)
- Second Life Syndrome (9.25 > 10)
- Egoist Hedonist (8.75 > 9)
- Driven to Destruction (9 > 9.25)
- Dancing Mad (9.25 > 9.75)
- Voorhees (8.75 > 9.25)
- Caveat Lector (9)
- The Future Sound of Music (9.5)
- The Day That The World Breaks Down (9)
- Blood and Thunder (9.5)
- Capillarian Crest (9.25)
- The Wolf is Loose (9.75)
- The Czar (9.25 > 9.75)
- Comforting Sounds (9)
- Carolina IV (9.5)
And for the sake of trivia:
Highest-scoring song: Mastodon - The Wolf is Loose (9.75/10)
Lowest-scoring song: Unleash the Archers - Northwest Passage (6/10)
Highest-scoring submission: twosuitsluke - Mastodon (9.3)
Lowest-scoring submission: Stadler - KISS (6.4)
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It’s been a long journey, but we’ve finally reached the end. So, how do I feel about this roulette?
This whole thing was very, very worthwhile. Back before it all began, this was something I’d been considering doing for some time. I’d had a pretty rapid growth in what I listened to in the first half of 2020… but that was three new artists to add to three others that I’d frequently listened to. Throughout this roulette, I’ve gained exposure to 90 new artists. 90! Back in 2018, when what I listened to consisted of mainly Dream Theater, LTE, and a little bit of Between the Buried and Me here and there, knowing that I’d be listening to that many artists would’ve been insane to me. And now that I realize that that’s the actual number, it’s still a bit crazy to me. And the best part is, a large amount of these artists are ones that I’m interested in looking into further. If my counting is correct, I plan on looking into the discographies of 64 out of the 90 artists I listened to. And that’s another fascinating part of this roulette to me. I think I mentioned this before elsewhere on the forum, but there was a time where checking out new artists wasn’t a priority to me, because I figured “I’ve already got Dream Theater, and Dream Theater is the best, so what’s the point?” Discovering Haken, Porcupine Tree, and Transatlantic really helped me to change that mindset a little bit, and now running this roulette has pretty much shattered that line of thinking. Well, I still think Dream Theater is the best, but you get my point. :lol
I really enjoyed the selection of artists that you guys sent me. Sure, I didn’t love every one, but honestly, I’m glad I had the chance to listen to every single one of them, even the ones I found underwhelming. And the diversity, too… Of course, there was a lot of prog, since this is a Dream Theater forum and I enjoy prog a lot. But I also heard some stuff other than that, like electronic music, hard rock, death metal, and whatever in the world Cardiacs is supposed to be. I also enjoyed how a lot of you guys were consistent in what you sent. 425 sent a lot of symphonic metal, Cyril sent a lot of hardcore metal, Stadler and jingle.boy sent a lot of classic rock/metal… The list goes on. And while there may have been a few artists that I didn’t exactly care for, the vast majority were ones that I enjoyed a lot. And there were quite a few artists that made me think, “Where have you been my whole life?”. Riverside, Angra, Devin Townsend, East of the Wall, Cardiacs, pretty much everything that Luke sent… Needless to say, there are a lot of artists here I love.
And of course, there’s another thing I have to mention. This took WAY longer than I anticipated. Looking at the roulette FAQ prior to starting the roulette, I was under the impression that the expectation always was that you needed to complete each round within a week. I even made a calendar showing when I would need to get out results, impressions, etc., and if I’d stuck to that schedule, this would’ve been over on November 1st of last year. At the same time, though, if I stuck to that schedule, I’d be so burnt out on the roulette that I might not have even bothered to finish it. Having said that, I did take a very long time. I could have done a better job of staying committed to the roulette and being efficient enough to get things done in a decent amount of time. In hindsight, though, I will also say that one week was too short. I got Round 1 done in a week, but I also think that had its own downsides. Mainly, there were a couple artists that I’d only listened to twice, and I had to form my opinion on just those two listens because I felt it was necessary to get every round done in a week or less. Taking too long in the later rounds at least gave me time to properly absorb the artists and get a solid opinion on them. But anyway, I know this is about the 30th time I’ve felt that I should apologize for something in this roulette, but I really am sorry that I took so long to get this thing done.
Before I wrap this up, I want to briefly mention something I talked about back in Round 1 (or even before Round 1 started, I think). There was something I was working on that I said would be complete by the time the roulette is over. That has been scrapped, because I soon realized it was really boring and nobody would be interested in it; it’s really not even worth mentioning.
However! I will be working on something else, which won’t be complete anytime soon, but the plan is to have it done by the end of the year. This thing being a huge list of all the artists I’ve discovered in the past two years, and they will all be ranked and reviewed. I won’t have a lot to say about every artist (I don’t really have any interest in listening to more Massive Attack, for instance, so a review of that would be pretty short). But this is something I think would be worthwhile to do, and I think since a majority of these artists will be ones I discovered from this roulette, maybe you guys might be interested in reading such a list.
Well, that’s all the main things I wanted to talk about, reflecting on my time doing this roulette. It feels great to finally see this through to the end. Do I want to do another roulette in the future? Absolutely. Like I said, this was very, very worthwhile. Next time, though, I will definitely change some things (such as limiting the number of participants so I don’t have 19 people sending me a whole bunch of music), which should help me stay engaged and keep everyone else from waiting too long for results. But that’s not gonna be for a long time. It’s very relieving to finally not have this weighing on me, plus I’ve got a lot of discographies to listen to!
Lastly… Thank you to every single one of you who participated in this roulette. You all helped amazingly in expanding my musical horizons, and that is something I’ll always be grateful for. I really enjoy this community, and hosting the roulette has also been great for interacting with you all. Please feel free to tell me any thoughts you have about my roulette, the artists/songs I was sent, me myself, or just anything relevant, I suppose. Again, thank you all for participating. :)
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4th place, woo! Not bad for a roulette with 19 people. :biggrin:
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One thing I've learned from this roulette (and other roulettes too) is Buddy and I seem to have very similar tastes in music, regarding what artists we do and don't like, but very different opinions on favorite songs by those artists. :corn
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Sorry it's taken me so long to respond, been a busy day!
First off thanks for running this, it's been a blast. Don't sweat how long it took. Yes, most roulettes are shorter, but most have less participants and are limited to one song per round. You had your work cut out for you with the amount of music you had to review. It was your first roulette! I know I didn't really know what I was letting myself in for with my first one.
Just want to say, so glad you dug the Metallica S&M songs. That is my favourite live album of all time! Metallica were to me what Dream Theater are to you. I listened pretty much exclusively to them, for the first year I got into them. They are just an incredible band and they offer so much over their career. I'd have been fine with losing out to those songs.
But fuck, I actually won a roulette! It's only taken me like 5 years or something, and probably 15 roulettes (maybe more). I've probably participated in a roulette of every single person who entered this roulette!
I'm so glad you dug what I sent. Out of the 5 bands, two (The Dear Hunter and Thank You, Scientist) are ones that I'd never heard a note of, before joining DTF. You've really been given a 'who's who' of so many bands that are dissected all over DTF. You'll be able to jump in on all the threads now, knowing who all the bands are. I expect to see you all over DTF.
I'm actually quite jealous of you getting to explore all these bands for the first time. You've also made me want to get around to checking out Cardiacs. I've been meaning to for a while but they're not on Spotify!
Now I've won a roulette I can have my name highlighted in green right? That's what this was all for :lol
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One thing I've learned from this roulette (and other roulettes too) is Buddy and I seem to have very similar tastes in music, regarding what artists we do and don't like, but very different opinions on favorite songs by those artists. :corn
Heh, I don't know any other examples outside of Agalloch, but you're probably right. :lol
You didn't send them but I guess on that topic I wouldn't have gone with any of those Thank You Scientist songs. I probably would have went with:
Caverns
Mr. Invisible
My Famed Disappearing Act
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I'm used to no one liking my TYS picks :lol
I think A Salesman's Guide to Non-Existentence is hands down their best song, but I can't find a single other person who seems to even rate it, at all.
Caverns nearly made the cut though.
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I'm used to no one liking my TYS picks :lol
I think A Salesman's Guide to Non-Existentence is hands down their best song, but I can't find a single other person who seems to even rate it, at all.
That song and FXMLDR are both good songs but not among their best, IMO. Psychopomp is pretty underrated though; might be the best song on that album outside of Caverns and Mr. Invisible.
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Sorry it's taken me so long to respond, been a busy day!
First off thanks for running this, it's been a blast. Don't sweat how long it took. Yes, most roulettes are shorter, but most have less participants and are limited to one song per round. You had your work cut out for you with the amount of music you had to review. It was your first roulette! I know I didn't really know what I was letting myself in for with my first one.
Just want to say, so glad you dug the Metallica S&M songs. That is my favourite live album of all time! Metallica were to me what Dream Theater are to you. I listened pretty much exclusively to them, for the first year I got into them. They are just an incredible band and they offer so much over their career. I'd have been fine with losing out to those songs.
But fuck, I actually won a roulette! It's only taken me like 5 years or something, and probably 15 roulettes (maybe more). I've probably participated in a roulette of every single person who entered this roulette!
I'm so glad you dug what I sent. Out of the 5 bands, two (The Dear Hunter and Thank You, Scientist) are ones that I'd never heard a note of, before joining DTF. You've really been given a 'who's who' of so many bands that are dissected all over DTF. You'll be able to jump in on all the threads now, knowing who all the bands are. I expect to see you all over DTF.
I'm actually quite jealous of you getting to explore all these bands for the first time. You've also made me want to get around to checking out Cardiacs. I've been meaning to for a while but they're not on Spotify!
Now I've won a roulette I can have my name highlighted in green right? That's what this was all for :lol
Congrats again on winning, you really earned it! :)
There's a lot of artists I'm excited to get into, but three of the artists you sent are top-priority for me (The Dear Hunter, Mastodon, and Thank You Scientist). Well, I've already started exploring Mastodon; I already own "Crack the Skye" on CD (thank you to romdrums for sending them, too!). And yeah, I do have a better understanding of a lot of the names I've seen on here. And I've probably said something like this already, but there's quite a few artists that I never would've guessed I'd enjoy so much. And there's a couple artists that I've heard before but was finally able to get into thanks to the roulette, like Pink Floyd and Trans-Siberian Orchestra. Among other threads, I imagine I'll be active in the "What album are you listening to?" thread, that's for sure!
And regarding Metallica, I'm pretty interested in seeing what they have to offer. I think I've kind of been interested in listening to Metallica for a couple years now, but never really felt a reason to go do it until now. I remember seeing you mention you loved Metallica elsewhere on the forum, so I was a bit surprised that you never sent them. Looks like it all worked out, though!
Also pretty cool that I was able to interest you in checking out Cardiacs! Although I suppose you should also thank Elite for that.
Thanks again for joining the roulette!
You didn't send them but I guess on that topic I wouldn't have gone with any of those Thank You Scientist songs. I probably would have went with:
Caverns
Mr. Invisible
My Famed Disappearing Act
I'll keep these three songs in mind when I go through Thank You Scientist's discography!
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Congrats luke! Sad you didn't dig Massive Attack that much, oh well. Glad to have participated and hopefully at least expanded your horizons a little bit :)
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Congrats luke! Sad you didn't dig Massive Attack that much, oh well. Glad to have participated and hopefully at least expanded your horizons a little bit :)
I'm glad you sent Portishead and Massive Attack. Their genre of music is one that I'm not sure I've ever heard in my life, so it was still really cool to be able to listen to something completely new even if it wasn't something I loved. Thanks again for joining the roulette!
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the three TYS songs i would've sent would definitely have been the top 3 on my video, so i'm not gonna say -which- yet, but the order i would've sent them in:
#1
#3
#2
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Elite
Cardiacs
First impression: This is some of the strangest and most insane music I've ever listened to.
Final review: Before, I didn’t even know it was possible for a band like this to exist. The music that these people make is so bizarre and insane. This is nothing like anything I’ve ever heard in my life. But you know what? Something like this is perfectly fine by me, because I really like this. I have no idea whether I should be surprised by that, but I’m certainly not complaining. It’s honestly hard to describe what the music actually is, just because of how unique it is. I mean, I guess you could call it some form of rock, but Cardiacs doesn’t feel like any particular genre. Cardiacs is just… Cardiacs. That’s all there is to it. “She is Hiding Behind the Shed” is as good a showcase as any as to what this band does. It starts out normally enough with an energetic keyboard riff, but then the first verse begins and you’re treated to the vocalists singing/yelling. The vocals are strange, but they’re charming and fit in really well with the music. The music is consistently really catchy, and this song in particular is something of an earworm. “Dog-Like Sparky” is very absurdist not just with its music, but also with its lyrics. Not that the other songs have normal lyrics, but this one’s really over-the-top. One thing I really enjoy about this song musically, which I wish I heard in more songs, is a constant change in tempo. It starts out slow in the first verse, then the chorus gradually gets faster, then it gets slow again as it goes to the next verse. There’s some parts with a female singer (at least, it sounds feminine; I can never be too sure with Cardiacs) that really mess with the tempo, and it’s just so good. “Duck and Roger the Horse” is the craziest out of all the songs I’ve heard. It’s just shy of four minutes of erratic, enjoyable madness. This is a song that I can’t really describe at all beyond that; you just have to hear it to figure out what’s going on here. “Dirty Boy” is the most normal song here, but it’s certainly got that eccentric charm that makes Cardiacs so great. The last two minutes or so of this song is really interesting. It sounds like when the singer ends the last verse, he just keeps holding the last note for the rest of the song. And it’s a pretty high and loud note, so if that was actually done in one take for two minutes straight, that is VERY impressive. That’s a word to describe this artist as a whole for me, too. For how bizarre Cardiacs is, I really enjoy this. This is basically the antithesis to my mentality on listening to music before doing this roulette. Before, I thought that I may as well just stick with my favorites, because I’ve pretty much seen all there is in terms of good music. Cardiacs proves that not only is that statement wrong, but also that I don’t think I’ll ever truly see everything there is in music in general, unless I were to literally listen to every song by every artist ever made.
She is Hiding Behind the Shed - 8.5/10
Dog-Like Sparky - 8.75/10
Duck and Roger the Horse - 8.25/10
Dirty Boy - 8.5/10
Roulette score: 8.5
Thanks for taking the time to actually process this; maybe the 2-3 extra months might have been good for your impression of this music :lol
Cardiacs, even though they don't exist anymore, have gradually grown to be one of my favourite bands based on the material they have released. They sound unlike anything I've heard and that's largely due to their unique approach to song-writing. The first song of their I eve heard was The Duck and Roger the Horse (thanks, LordCost!) in the first round of my last roulette and that remains probably one of the best things sent to me in that roulette, because it led to me discovering this band.
Out of the four I sent, Dirty Boy is my favourite, and that one has a good chance to be my favourite Cardiacs song as well, althogh I haven't even heard all of their stuff yet. I own five albums by the band and bought them from the webstore. Until recently that was the only way to listen to them, I believe some (all?) stuff has been uploaded to Spotify since Tim Smith's (the frontman and chief writer of the group) passing a few months ago. Although not all of their music is as crazy as The Duck and Roger the Horse, there's certainly some other songs in their catalog that will have you wondering what the hell is going on.
As for albums, I recommend you start with Sing to God, but all of them are charming in some way.
Thanks for having me in your roulette, I hope you'll enjoy some of the artists I have sent :)
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[Cardiacs review]
Thanks for taking the time to actually process this; maybe the 2-3 extra months might have been good for your impression of this music :lol
Cardiacs, even though they don't exist anymore, have gradually grown to be one of my favourite bands based on the material they have released. They sound unlike anything I've heard and that's largely due to their unique approach to song-writing. The first song of their I eve heard was The Duck and Roger the Horse (thanks, LordCost!) in the first round of my last roulette and that remains probably one of the best things sent to me in that roulette, because it led to me discovering this band.
Out of the four I sent, Dirty Boy is my favourite, and that one has a good chance to be my favourite Cardiacs song as well, althogh I haven't even heard all of their stuff yet. I own five albums by the band and bought them from the webstore. Until recently that was the only way to listen to them, I believe some (all?) stuff has been uploaded to Spotify since Tim Smith's (the frontman and chief writer of the group) passing a few months ago. Although not all of their music is as crazy as The Duck and Roger the Horse, there's certainly some other songs in their catalog that will have you wondering what the hell is going on.
As for albums, I recommend you start with Sing to God, but all of them are charming in some way.
Thanks for having me in your roulette, I hope you'll enjoy some of the artists I have sent :)
Honestly, it only took me one listen of "She is Hiding Behind the Shed" to know that Cardiacs was going to be something I really liked. This is definitely a band whose discography I want to go further into, and I'm excited to see just how many times they can leave me astounded at how crazy things get. I'll take your recommendation of Sing to God into consideration!
Thanks again for joining the roulette! Aside from Cardiacs, I'm interested in checking out more from The Ocean, Pain of Salvation, and Ulver. Maybe I'll try out more of Wilderun's stuff at some point, too. :)