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Title: Who is the biggest musical genius of the 21st century?
Post by: KevShmev on May 22, 2020, 08:42:33 AM
Vote and discuss.
Title: Re: Who is the biggest musical genius of the 21st century?
Post by: Max Kuehnau on May 22, 2020, 08:43:43 AM
In my opinion, there are none to speak of. (that weren't active before then)
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Post by: Elite on May 22, 2020, 08:44:11 AM
Oh, fock off :lol
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Post by: The Walrus on May 22, 2020, 08:44:33 AM
WildRanger.
Title: Re: Who is the biggest musical genius of the 21st century?
Post by: Max Kuehnau on May 22, 2020, 08:46:01 AM
WildRanger.
Good one, seriously, had to chuckle (faintly)
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Post by: pg1067 on May 22, 2020, 10:43:36 AM
WildRanger.

Damn you; you beat me to it!!!   :lol
Title: Re: Who is the biggest musical genius of the 21st century?
Post by: Adami on May 22, 2020, 10:44:46 AM
Wait, are talking subjectively or objectively here?
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Post by: Anguyen92 on May 22, 2020, 10:47:55 AM
I don't know if I can say any of them is a big musical genius, but out of the bunch, I like Ed Sheeran the most.  His first three albums had a fair amount of songs I liked.

PSY, he came in, had a gigantic hit, the follow-up didn't do as big, and where is he now?
Title: Re: Who is the biggest musical genius of the 21st century?
Post by: Cool Chris on May 22, 2020, 10:50:23 AM
I have never heard of PSY. I've heard the name Ed Sheeran but couldn't tell you a thing about him. Same with Beiber.
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Post by: Evermind on May 22, 2020, 10:51:47 AM
I have never heard of PSY. I've heard the name Ed Sheeran but couldn't tell you a thing about him. Same with Beiber.

OP

OP OP OP

OPPA GANGNAM STYLE

Voted PSY obviously, what a musician
Title: Re: Who is the biggest musical genius of the 21st century?
Post by: Adami on May 22, 2020, 10:52:25 AM
Subjectively, I'd say Kevin Moore.

But objectively, PSY is the clear genius on that list.
PSY, he came in, had a gigantic hit, the follow-up didn't do as big, and where is he now?

South Korea, I'd assume.
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Post by: npiazza91 on May 22, 2020, 10:55:15 AM
I’m gonna bite and just say that we’ve had FAR worse pop artists than Ed Sheeran. He’s actually one of the good ones. There’s a few songs my gf and I used to listen to. He’s got a wholesome vibe and really writes some emotional pop songs. Not my genre at all, but from what I’ve heard by him, I definitely respect him compared to all the other garbage that’s out there in the pop world.
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Post by: Crow on May 22, 2020, 10:57:10 AM
Kurt Cobain
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Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on May 22, 2020, 11:04:12 AM
I have never heard of PSY. I've heard the name Ed Sheeran but couldn't tell you a thing about him. Same with Beiber.

He did Stairway to Heaven, I think.
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Post by: Crow on May 22, 2020, 11:05:44 AM
Curt Kobain
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Post by: Crow on May 22, 2020, 11:05:59 AM
K.K. Slider
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Post by: Indiscipline on May 22, 2020, 11:06:35 AM
Daniel Ek
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Post by: The Walrus on May 22, 2020, 11:10:58 AM
K.K. Slider

Yes
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Post by: Elite on May 22, 2020, 11:13:39 AM
I voted Ed Sheeran out of the available options :)
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Post by: Architeuthis on May 22, 2020, 11:46:18 AM
Jack Black and Kyle Gass!  :metal
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Post by: Peter Mc on May 22, 2020, 11:54:14 AM
If you’re going to include those people, Adele should really be there as well.

I wouldn’t really vote for any of them though.  I’m not sure there is one off the top of my head, maybe Eminem or Jay Z? Alicia Keys? Beyoncé? Not sure anyone could be classed as a genius. Steven Wilson has been a pretty amazing artist but I wouldn’t class him as a genius.
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Post by: Adami on May 22, 2020, 11:59:35 AM
(https://www.biography.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cg_face%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_300/MTU0OTkwNDUxOTQ5MDUzNDQ3/kanye-west-attends-the-christian-dior-show-as-part-of-the-paris-fashion-week-womenswear-fall-winter-2015-2016-on-march-6-2015-in-paris-france-photo-by-dominique-charriau-wireimage-square.jpg)
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Post by: Setlist Scotty on May 22, 2020, 12:14:38 PM
(https://www.biography.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cg_face%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_300/MTU0OTkwNDUxOTQ5MDUzNDQ3/kanye-west-attends-the-christian-dior-show-as-part-of-the-paris-fashion-week-womenswear-fall-winter-2015-2016-on-march-6-2015-in-paris-france-photo-by-dominique-charriau-wireimage-square.jpg)
:rollin
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Post by: Crow on May 22, 2020, 12:18:17 PM
Miku Hatsune
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Post by: Peter Mc on May 22, 2020, 12:19:24 PM
(https://www.biography.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cg_face%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_300/MTU0OTkwNDUxOTQ5MDUzNDQ3/kanye-west-attends-the-christian-dior-show-as-part-of-the-paris-fashion-week-womenswear-fall-winter-2015-2016-on-march-6-2015-in-paris-france-photo-by-dominique-charriau-wireimage-square.jpg)

It shows how much I’m turning into my parents that I’m not really sure who that is.  I think it might be Kanye West but, if so, I literally couldn’t name a single song he’s done. That’s in no way a slight on him, I’m just very out of touch with chart music these days.
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Post by: WildRanger on May 22, 2020, 12:24:51 PM
(https://www.biography.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cg_face%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_300/MTU0OTkwNDUxOTQ5MDUzNDQ3/kanye-west-attends-the-christian-dior-show-as-part-of-the-paris-fashion-week-womenswear-fall-winter-2015-2016-on-march-6-2015-in-paris-france-photo-by-dominique-charriau-wireimage-square.jpg)

He is a worthy contender.

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Post by: DragonAttack on May 22, 2020, 12:49:03 PM

He is a worthy contender.

 :rollin

Edited:  Kanye vs. Freddie      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwN6dPNXklg

Title: Re: Who is the biggest musical genius of the 21st century?
Post by: El Barto on May 22, 2020, 12:52:16 PM
Steven Wilson is the obvious choice. And interestingly, he'd probably throw a nod in Kanye's direction. When I saw him a few years ago he actually commented that Kanye was really the only person out there actually pushing boundaries.
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Post by: Elite on May 22, 2020, 01:01:08 PM

He is a worthy contender.

 :rollin

 Kanye vs. Freddie      Kanye vs. Freddie



What Freddie? In the 21st century?
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Post by: NoseofNicko on May 22, 2020, 01:08:43 PM
I don’t think Kanye is a genius, but he’s much better/more talented than some of you guys who haven’t heard a single note of his music think.
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Post by: Max Kuehnau on May 22, 2020, 01:09:56 PM
I don’t think Kanye is a genius, but he’s much better than some of you guys who haven’t heard a single note of his music think.
I definitely heard more than one note of his music and it wasn't something I'll ever remember fondly.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on May 22, 2020, 01:11:50 PM
Whenever i'm in doubt, Kevin Moore!
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Post by: NoseofNicko on May 22, 2020, 01:13:33 PM
I don’t think Kanye is a genius, but he’s much better than some of you guys who haven’t heard a single note of his music think.
I definitely heard more than one note of his music and it wasn't something I'll ever remember fondly.

That’s the beauty of music. One can despise a song while someone else can love it. Neither’s opinion is worth more than the other’s.
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Post by: pg1067 on May 22, 2020, 01:18:02 PM
Wait, are talking subjectively or objectively here?

Absolutely!


It shows how much I’m turning into my parents that I’m not really sure who that is.  I think it might be Kanye West but, if so, I literally couldn’t name a single song he’s done. That’s in no way a slight on him, I’m just very out of touch with chart music these days.

I had NO idea who it was until I did a Google image search.
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on May 22, 2020, 01:21:42 PM
(https://www.biography.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cg_face%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_300/MTU0OTkwNDUxOTQ5MDUzNDQ3/kanye-west-attends-the-christian-dior-show-as-part-of-the-paris-fashion-week-womenswear-fall-winter-2015-2016-on-march-6-2015-in-paris-france-photo-by-dominique-charriau-wireimage-square.jpg)

Came here to literally mention him as a joke. Then I saw the candidates and am even more disappointed that he isn't on the list.

Kanye 2020!
Title: Re: Who is the biggest musical genius of the 21st century?
Post by: KevShmev on May 22, 2020, 01:33:49 PM
Barto gave the best serious answer in a non-serious thread. ;)

Those of you mentioning Kayne, I needed a good laugh. Thank you for that.
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Post by: 425 on May 22, 2020, 01:35:34 PM
The Nicky Spanjaards option is missing, therefore this poll is invalid.
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Post by: pg1067 on May 22, 2020, 01:37:51 PM
The Nicky Spanjaards Lemons option is missing, therefore this poll is invalid.

ftfy
Title: Re: Who is the biggest musical genius of the 21st century?
Post by: Revenge319 on May 22, 2020, 01:38:44 PM
Steve Stone

Oh wait, that'd be the 20th century....
Title: Re: Who is the biggest musical genius of the 21st century?
Post by: WildRanger on May 22, 2020, 01:38:49 PM

He is a worthy contender.

 :rollin

 Kanye vs. Freddie      Kanye vs. Freddie

I must admit Kanye can barely sing. Singing is not his strength.
He is not even a very good rapper.



Title: Re: Who is the biggest musical genius of the 21st century?
Post by: emtee on May 22, 2020, 01:44:34 PM
These polls used to have an Earth Wind and Fire option at MP's site.
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Post by: Stadler on May 22, 2020, 02:07:02 PM
I'm going with The Lady Gaga, if we're being serious.
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Post by: Max Kuehnau on May 22, 2020, 02:13:02 PM
I'm going with The Lady Gaga, if we're being serious.
either her or Dirty Loops yes
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Post by: Cool Chris on May 22, 2020, 02:22:37 PM
I can't speak for Kayne's musical abilities, but I have no qualms about calling him one of the biggest geniuses of marketing and self-promotion int eh 21st century.
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Post by: TAC on May 22, 2020, 02:25:55 PM
He's also pretty good at inflating his wife's ass.
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Post by: DragonAttack on May 22, 2020, 10:07:35 PM
repost regarding Kanye (my bad)


He is a worthy contender.

 :rollin

Kanye vs. Freddie   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwN6dPNXklg
Title: Re: Who is the biggest musical genius of the 21st century?
Post by: Volante99 on May 22, 2020, 10:46:43 PM
Honestly?

Mikael Åkerfeldt & Corey Taylor
Title: Re: Who is the biggest musical genius of the 21st century?
Post by: Dream Team on May 23, 2020, 06:49:57 AM
The combined talents of the people listed might add up to the talent in McCartney’s right pinky finger.
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Post by: Elite on May 23, 2020, 07:15:06 AM
People dissing on Ed Sheeran without actually knowing what he does is pretty strange.
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Post by: Stadler on May 23, 2020, 07:45:17 AM
The combined talents of the people listed might add up to the talent in McCartney’s right pinky finger.

That may be true (McCartney was my first thought before I realized we were limiting this to the 21st century) but that's sort of like comparing every hockey player to Gretzky, or every basketball player to Jordan.  Doesn't mean the rest aren't good, just that they're not, well, McCartney.

By the way, even limiting to the 21st Century, Bruce Springsteen ain't a bad guess.  He's done more in the twilight of his career than most have done at the peak of their career. 
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 23, 2020, 08:12:35 AM
I'm amazed how many DTF'ers are missing the joke here.
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Post by: Stadler on May 23, 2020, 08:13:58 AM
I'm amazed how many DTF'ers are missing the joke here.

Not missing the joke, really, just musing, because the inanity that led to the joke notwithstanding, it's an interesting question.

Plus, I've got nothing funny to add!  :)   
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 23, 2020, 08:19:58 AM
I'm amazed how many DTF'ers are missing the joke here.

Not missing the joke, really, just musing, because the inanity that led to the joke notwithstanding, it's an interesting question.

Plus, I've got nothing funny to add!  :)

There are others though.  :lol
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Post by: Elite on May 23, 2020, 08:23:10 AM
I'm amazed how many DTF'ers are missing the joke here.

Not missing the joke, really, just musing, because the inanity that led to the joke notwithstanding, it's an interesting question.

Plus, I've got nothing funny to add!  :)

There are others though.  :lol

Oh, I'm definitely getting the joke, especially after my participation in the glorious Knocking on Heaven's Door thread, but some of the responses irk me. I don't know enough about Justin Bieber or PSY (or even Bono for that matter), so I won't comment on that, but people claiming Ed Sheeran is 'talentless' is ridiculous.
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Post by: lonestar on May 23, 2020, 08:37:20 AM
I'm amazed how many DTF'ers are missing the joke here.

Not missing the joke, really, just musing, because the inanity that led to the joke notwithstanding, it's an interesting question.

Plus, I've got nothing funny to add!  :)

We're used to that. :neverusethis:
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 23, 2020, 09:42:54 AM
I'm amazed how many DTF'ers are missing the joke here.

Plus, I've got nothing funny to add!  :)

When has that ever stopped you before?
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Post by: WildRanger on May 23, 2020, 11:57:43 AM
People dissing on Ed Sheeran without actually knowing what he does is pretty strange.

I know what he does. He makes bland commercial music.

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Post by: MoraWintersoul on May 23, 2020, 12:06:53 PM
Steven Wilson is the obvious choice. And interestingly, he'd probably throw a nod in Kanye's direction. When I saw him a few years ago he actually commented that Kanye was really the only person out there actually pushing boundaries.
No offense to Kanye, but Steven Wilson really needs to listen to more contemporary music  :rollin
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Post by: Elite on May 23, 2020, 12:07:07 PM
People dissing on Ed Sheeran without actually knowing what he does is pretty strange.

I know what he does. He makes bland commercial music.

And he writes and performs his own stuff and is hugely successful at doing that.
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Post by: NoseofNicko on May 23, 2020, 12:12:17 PM
People dissing on Ed Sheeran without actually knowing what he does is pretty strange.

I know what he does. He makes bland commercial music.

And he writes and performs his own stuff and is hugely successful at doing that.

But the music he writes is objectively bad. Derp.
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Post by: Stadler on May 26, 2020, 07:50:17 AM
People dissing on Ed Sheeran without actually knowing what he does is pretty strange.

I know what he does. He makes bland commercial music.

Have you seen him?   

He stood on a stadium stage, by himself with only a guitar, and filled it, in real time, with his loops (using the guitar as a rhythmic device in addition to a melodic instrument) and his vocals, and held them - including my wife and two daughters, captivated.  His music is not my cup of tea, but to dismiss him is absolutely ridiculous, and shows me - yes, I'm going to say it - that you are delusional on the level of your own "musical acumen".  You don't know half of what you think you do if you dismiss him in that way.   So much for your "I can acknowledge music I don't like" nonsense you've been spewing.   
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Post by: The Walrus on May 26, 2020, 08:00:02 AM
Me trying to hold Stadler back from taking the same bait I did:

(https://i.imgur.com/01h4dXS.gif)
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Post by: WildRanger on May 26, 2020, 08:01:42 AM
People dissing on Ed Sheeran without actually knowing what he does is pretty strange.

I know what he does. He makes bland commercial music.

Have you seen him?   

He stood on a stadium stage, by himself with only a guitar, and filled it, in real time, with his loops (using the guitar as a rhythmic device in addition to a melodic instrument) and his vocals, and held them - including my wife and two daughters, captivated.  His music is not my cup of tea, but to dismiss him is absolutely ridiculous, and shows me - yes, I'm going to say it - that you are delusional on the level of your own "musical acumen".  You don't know half of what you think you do if you dismiss him in that way.   So much for your "I can acknowledge music I don't like" nonsense you've been spewing.

There are some singers/bands I don't like, but appreciate their music so I would never say they suck, but Sheeran is not that example. I genuinely believe his music sucks and doesn't deserve appreciation.





Title: Re: Who is the biggest musical genius of the 21st century?
Post by: Stadler on May 26, 2020, 09:33:51 AM
People dissing on Ed Sheeran without actually knowing what he does is pretty strange.

I know what he does. He makes bland commercial music.

Have you seen him?   

He stood on a stadium stage, by himself with only a guitar, and filled it, in real time, with his loops (using the guitar as a rhythmic device in addition to a melodic instrument) and his vocals, and held them - including my wife and two daughters, captivated.  His music is not my cup of tea, but to dismiss him is absolutely ridiculous, and shows me - yes, I'm going to say it - that you are delusional on the level of your own "musical acumen".  You don't know half of what you think you do if you dismiss him in that way.   So much for your "I can acknowledge music I don't like" nonsense you've been spewing.

There are some singers/bands I don't like, but appreciate their music so I would never say they suck, but Sheeran is not that example. I genuinely believe his music sucks and doesn't deserve appreciation.

Not that it had a ton to begin with, but that right there destroys your position for me.  You're just rationalizing your own personal taste under the false guise of "objectivity".