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Title: Illumination Theory Middle Section
Post by: Trav86 on April 17, 2020, 05:03:13 AM
So...has anyone else watched the animated video that goes with the middle/orchestral section of IT and got all emotional? Like teared up? Maybe it’s just me! Ever since becoming a father, it seems like I cry about everything! 😂
Title: Re: Illumination Theory Middle Section
Post by: KevShmev on April 17, 2020, 08:39:13 AM
It might be just you :P, but that is still great when music touches you that much. :hat

When I saw them twice on the tour for that record, when it got to that section at both shows, I just stood and closed my eyes and let the music wash over me.  Was pretty amazing.  :coolio
Title: Re: Illumination Theory Middle Section
Post by: krands85 on April 17, 2020, 08:58:33 AM
I don't get that from the middle section, but I do near the end, with the "To really feel the joy in life" part. Music doesn't really do that to me too often for some reason, but there's something about the lyrics/vocals in that bit of the song.
Title: Re: Illumination Theory Middle Section
Post by: hunnus2000 on April 17, 2020, 09:21:30 AM
Was that the part where there is video of JP saying, "Jordan, play me the saddest part you can think of"? If so, JR nailed it!
Title: Re: Illumination Theory Middle Section
Post by: Max Kuehnau on April 17, 2020, 09:29:28 AM
Was that the part where there is video of JP saying, "Jordan, play me the saddest part you can think of"? If so, JR nailed it!
I'm quite sure it was, yes.
Title: Re: Illumination Theory Middle Section
Post by: pg1067 on April 17, 2020, 09:47:46 AM
So...has anyone else watched the animated video that goes with the middle/orchestral section of IT and got all emotional? Like teared up? Maybe it’s just me! Ever since becoming a father, it seems like I cry about everything! 😂

Is this what you're talking about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4I4NOe1olk

I'm not sure I'd seen this  more than once before today, and I doubt I picked up on the intended meaning at the concert (you don't really see too much of the video on Breaking the Fourth Wall).  The music itself is a bit tear-jerking, but I view it as much as a "hopeful" sounding piece than a sad piece.
Title: Re: Illumination Theory Middle Section
Post by: nattmorker on April 17, 2020, 04:48:33 PM
... I do near the end, with the "To really feel the joy in life" part. Music doesn't really do that to me too often for some reason, but there's something about the lyrics/vocals in that bit of the song.

Same here! That part always gets me, I love it!
Title: Re: Illumination Theory Middle Section
Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2020, 06:53:32 PM
I don't get that from the middle section, but I do near the end, with the "To really feel the joy in life" part. Music doesn't really do that to me too often for some reason, but there's something about the lyrics/vocals in that bit of the song.

This, totally this.
Title: Re: Illumination Theory Middle Section
Post by: Drinktheater on April 18, 2020, 05:12:34 PM
I don't get that from the middle section, but I do near the end, with the "To really feel the joy in life" part. Music doesn't really do that to me too often for some reason, but there's something about the lyrics/vocals in that bit of the song.

It is even more emotional in Breaking the 4th Wall because of the placing of Illumination theory within the set.

I mean they played Epic after the Awake selections and all of the AWAKE songs in there are dark except Lifting Shadows, So if you will really internalize the songs meaning from the Awake culminating with Space Dyevest its really depressing right?

But then you are illuminated by "Surrender Trust and Passion"

If you are a DT Fan its hard not to be moved by that.
Title: Re: Illumination Theory Middle Section
Post by: Dream_Theater01 on April 18, 2020, 06:44:08 PM
Really good song.
Title: Re: Illumination Theory Middle Section
Post by: BelichickFan on April 19, 2020, 10:50:46 AM
Does anyone know why they played the tape for this in concert instead of Jordan playing it live?  That still bugs me when I listed to Breaking the 4th Wall.
Title: Re: Illumination Theory Middle Section
Post by: pg1067 on April 19, 2020, 11:16:07 AM
Does anyone know why they played the tape for this in concert instead of Jordan playing it live?  That still bugs me when I listed to Breaking the 4th Wall.

While the atmospheric/noise section might have been a recording (although it certainly wasn't a tape), the orchestra played the musical section.
Title: Re: Illumination Theory Middle Section
Post by: BelichickFan on April 19, 2020, 11:43:15 AM
Does anyone know why they played the tape for this in concert instead of Jordan playing it live?  That still bugs me when I listed to Breaking the 4th Wall.

While the atmospheric/noise section might have been a recording (although it certainly wasn't a tape), the orchestra played the musical section.

I guess I asked the question wrong - I really meant on the tour. I appreciate the reminder of the orchestra for the recorded show but I think they played the tape on the other shows. The two I saw, it appeared that way.
Title: Re: Illumination Theory Middle Section
Post by: TAC on April 19, 2020, 12:16:24 PM
Does anyone know why they played the tape for this in concert instead of Jordan playing it live?  That still bugs me when I listed to Breaking the 4th Wall.

While the atmospheric/noise section might have been a recording (although it certainly wasn't a tape), the orchestra played the musical section.

I thought it was understood that the live orchestra did NOT make it to the release of BTFW and they opted to use the tape for the live release instead.