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Title: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: Kotowboy on September 06, 2009, 12:55:21 PM
ON the Tool page it says " Are you ready for November 12th "

Wonder what it could mean..Exactly 3 and a half years after 10,000 Days...
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: Zeltar on September 06, 2009, 12:56:35 PM
New Tool album? It's about time!  :metal
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: MetalManiac666 on September 06, 2009, 12:57:06 PM
:2metal:
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: TioJorge on September 06, 2009, 01:14:40 PM
Hell yes, here's hoping.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: Perpetual Change on September 06, 2009, 01:22:15 PM
Here's to hoping for more $9.99 singles featuring one remix of one song.

Seriously: Lateralus tour DVD?
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: Kotowboy on September 06, 2009, 01:54:35 PM
In all honesty it could be ANYTHING.

Maynard announcing a new wine flavour / Tool START the next album ?  :facepalm:

The next album blatantly wont be out til 2011.

Aenima 96 - Lateralus 01 - 10,000 Days 06

Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: JoeBob on September 06, 2009, 05:31:09 PM
Live DVD please.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: Sigz on September 06, 2009, 05:32:09 PM
Live DVD please.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: tbw2445 on September 06, 2009, 09:19:24 PM
I just hope it's anything new from Tool. I just want something from them!
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: shadowfex on September 07, 2009, 03:11:31 AM
It's possible that it could be a new album. I accepted the wait for Aenema and Lateralus but another 5 years with only 10,000 days to keep me going is asking a bit too much.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: ReaperKK on September 07, 2009, 07:31:54 AM
I don't think it'll be a new album, I think it'll be a live dvd, but really it could be anything.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: lateralus88 on September 07, 2009, 01:59:46 PM
It could be the announcement of a world tour, live DVD or even a new album being in the works for sometime next year or the year after.

Those are the three I'm counting on.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: Zeltar on September 07, 2009, 04:08:16 PM
Or a new setlist instead of the same one they've been using for 4 years?
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: Kotowboy on September 07, 2009, 04:09:26 PM
It won't be a live DVD. Maynard said they will never release one because

" If you buy the DVD you won't buy concert tickets "

and

" If you watch a live DVD and then go to a show - you'll be like where are all the cool camera angles and pans and zooms ? "

WTF ???  Is this guy deluded or WHAT? :facepalm:
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: Perpetual Change on September 07, 2009, 04:34:35 PM
Or you'll just see/hear how boring/flat he can be live.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: Plasmastrike on September 07, 2009, 10:01:00 PM
It won't be a live DVD. Maynard said they will never release one because

" If you buy the DVD you won't buy concert tickets "

and

" If you watch a live DVD and then go to a show - you'll be like where are all the cool camera angles and pans and zooms ? "

WTF ???  Is this guy deluded or WHAT? :facepalm:

Maynard is a genius, but if those statements are true, that's really lame. I can't speak for everyone else, but his description did not fit me what-so-ever.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: Perpetual Change on September 07, 2009, 10:02:36 PM
EDIT: Nevermind. Don't want to turn this into a bashing Maynard thread.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: Jamariquay on September 08, 2009, 09:19:43 AM
Or a new setlist instead of the same one they've been using for 4 years?

Nice.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: Shadoshi on September 08, 2009, 09:36:39 AM
Weren't they working on a movie or something? Some kind of art film? What happened with that?
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: Genowyn on September 08, 2009, 11:01:48 AM
It will be an announcement that Maynard will be working on a new APC or Puscifer album and people will weep quietly.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: zerogravityfat on September 08, 2009, 12:01:27 PM
It will be an announcement that Maynard will be working on a new APC or Puscifer album and people will weep quietly.

that would rock so much.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: Kotowboy on May 02, 2011, 10:40:49 AM
Forgot all about this !! Nothing actually happened did it ?
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: Quadrochosis on May 02, 2011, 12:10:40 PM
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Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: zerogravityfat on May 02, 2011, 01:54:32 PM
Forgot all about this !! Nothing actually happened did it ?

holy fist of bump batman. well i am going to the APC concert, so that happened.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: Gadough on May 02, 2011, 02:02:03 PM
New Tool album? It's about time!  :metal

*reads post*

*looks at date of post*

*10,000 Days is still the most recent Tool album*

lol
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: pain of occupation on May 02, 2011, 07:23:23 PM
ON the Tool page it says " Are you ready for November 12th "

Wonder what it could mean..Exactly 3 and a half years after 10,000 Days...

i got it at 5 years, 6 months, 10 days
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: zxlkho on May 02, 2011, 07:24:48 PM
Can't tell if serious.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: ScioPath on May 02, 2011, 08:27:33 PM
ON the Tool page it says " Are you ready for November 12th "

Wonder what it could mean..Exactly 3 and a half years after 10,000 Days...

i got it at 5 years, 6 months, 10 days

27 years, 4 months, 25 days.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on May 02, 2011, 08:29:59 PM
ffffuuuu I thought this was a new thread and told my mom Tool was gonna do something November 12th.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: pain of occupation on May 02, 2011, 08:38:16 PM
oh, lol, so did i.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: ACID_FOX on May 02, 2011, 09:42:57 PM
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Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: Kotowboy on May 04, 2011, 09:42:52 AM
So yeah. Nothing happened.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: RandalGraves on May 04, 2011, 10:07:34 AM
So yeah. Nothing happened.

Were you ready for it though?
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: Kotowboy on September 28, 2013, 07:53:57 PM


The next album blatantly wont be out til 2011.




Just found this old post. Wow :lol - what was I thinking ?!
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th ?
Post by: HarlequinForest on September 29, 2013, 12:30:26 AM


The next album blatantly wont be out til 2011.




Just found this old post. Wow :lol - what was I thinking ?!

It gave me a chuckle at least.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: NotePad on December 08, 2013, 01:14:50 PM
The most recent update regarding Tool says they're in deep writing a new album. Don't know if they're in the studio recording yet. Probably not. I'v heard they spend a lot, and i mean a LOT, of time writing before recording anything. I wonder how long they've been writing this one. It's been a long time since 10 000 days. The long period between Aenima and Lateralus was said to be legal problems and label issues etc. I wonder what's been taking so long for this one. Tool's long tiring writing process is the reason Maynard has so many side-projects. He says he needs an out for his creativity. If Jones and Carey were jealous of APC, then why do they take so goddamn long to make music???

I hope the next one continues in the direction of Lateralus. 10 000 Days was great but didn't have the flow of Lateralus. It took elements from Lateralus and Aenima, and a bit of Undertown, and combined them. It doesn't feel like they were moving forward with the last one.

Lateralus is one of the best metal/progressive albums of all time. Fact. The spiritual and metaphysical themes Adam Jones is interested in and explores in his art and even music, the themes Alex Grey's art explores, and the lyrics by Maynard Keenan cam together in such a great way. I wonder if Maynard and the guys discussed what ideas and themes should infuse his lyrics beforehand.

Listening the Lateralus from start to finish is a trip. I feel that overall the album is about spiritual enlightenment. I don't really expect the band to top that album, but I hope they can provide an experience that effects me that much again. 10 000 Days was too start/stop. I love Rosetta Stoned, but the lyrics bring the song down. Could'v been much better if Maynard didn't turn it into a joke. But musically- fuckin amazing. Right In Two was the best off 10 000 days. And listening to Intension is always a satisfying experience. I get the feeling Maynard and the band weren't exactly on the same wavelength this time. I also remember reading a rumor claiming Adam Jones was unhappy with Maynard on this album. And Maynard's schedule with winemaking and all that shit prevented him from being in the studio with Jones while recording. I see Jones as the leader of Tool.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on December 08, 2013, 01:19:55 PM
At this point, I'm really not expecting Tool to ever release another album.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: PixelDream on December 08, 2013, 02:21:45 PM
I think 10,000 Days is pretty damn good! I never get tired of the intro to Vicarious.. when that riff hits.. oh God!

The extremely heavy sound is the best part about 10,000 Days I think. I read a production journal about the recording and mixing of 10,000  Days, in which the producer/engineer described the record as 'Undertow on steroids'. I think the record fits that description.

Adding to the cool heavy tracks, the title track hits me every time.

Absolute must for this record: Turn it up LOUD, especially the title track. Otherwise that one sounds way too subtle, especially part one.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: TioJorge on December 08, 2013, 03:23:51 PM
At this point, I'm really not expecting Tool to ever release another album.

I'm not sure why they'd bullshit everyone if they didn't have the intention (NUG).

I'd love one, but I'm not stressing it's release. If it releases sometime in my lifetime, fuckin awesome; if not, then no loss. I've actually been listening to them more and more recently (as is usually the case during this season). Love me some Disposition and Reflection.  :heart :millahhhh
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Zantera on December 08, 2013, 03:43:14 PM
I feel kinda bad for Maynard, since the other guys don't seem to be nearly as interested as he is, in making music.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on December 08, 2013, 03:57:58 PM
Really? I've gotten the impression that Maynard wasn't interested that much in Tool anymore.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Zantera on December 08, 2013, 04:29:28 PM
Well, he recently spoke out in an interview about it, and it comes off as him basically sitting around and waiting for the rest of them to finish the music.

Quote
Tool frontman Maynard James Keenan has spoken out on the current state of the new Tool record, confirming that it is being written but the process is very long winded and "tedious".

Currently focusing on new releases from his other bands A Perfect Circle and Puscifer, the singer-turned-winemaker has spoken out about about the follow up to the release of 10,000 Days. Released way back in 2006, the succeeding release has long been speculated about and has been pencilled in loosely for a 2014 release.

Speaking to Rolling Stone, Keenan confirmed that the process was underway, but hardly seemed positive about the process saying that he doesn't have much of a hand in the writing as the band need to bring him the tracks. This is a process that he claims they agonise over continuously, making the actual writing process a very arduous one.
   
"I don't write the music. They write the music," he said of how things are panning out. "I wait for them to bring music to me. They tend to go back over and over stuff. It's a long process. For a person like me, it can be a very tedious process. In some ways, they are bigger perfectionists. But you can only help support their talent so long. They don't have to go through it 700 times. They can trust that first thought. But that's their process, so you gotta let them do it." And is that process happening? "I couldn't tell you,"
    Moving onto where the sound of the band may be going he added: "Just in general, each project is going to find its own way. Depending on the motivation. We're all in this together. I'm not pointing any fingers. I will take full responsibility if I have to."

Talking of why the band haven't toured in six years he said that they didn't want to move to the stage until they had new material in order to avoid becoming, musically stagnant.
   
"As an artist you don't want to become a greatest hits version of yourself, either," he said. "You want to push the boundaries. You want to figure out how can you challenge yourself to discover something new, discover something different about yourself. What are your limitations? What avenues can you push and expand? That is life. I don't have any interest in coasting yet." [/i]


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Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on December 08, 2013, 04:31:34 PM
Hmm, that's interesting. I was thinking that he had gotten bored of Tool, and that's why he had started side projects, but this makes it seem more like he's doing the side projects because the rest of Tool aren't really moving.

Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: NotePad on December 09, 2013, 01:55:25 AM
Yea when i wrote my post that was the article i was referencing. They are apparently working on music, google it. But with Tool, it's a long process. Obviously Maynard is different.  I wouldn't expect him to only make music with Tool. I'm just fascinated how the other guys have such a long process.

Any yea, 10000 days is kinda like undertow on steroids. I'd say it's Lateralus injected into a undertow/aenima mixture. You wouldnt hear The Pot or even Jambi on Lateralus. I'm just hoping for more of a Lateralus evolved type thing with their next work.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: NotePad on January 22, 2014, 11:04:13 PM
I'm wondering, what are people expecting from the next Tool album?

I think 10k day was great, but even the band knows that they didn't really exceed anyone's expectations with it. I think things will be different on the next one.....
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Ben_Jamin on January 23, 2014, 12:52:05 PM
I'm not expecting anything.

10k days had an Undertow sound to it, with Lateralus' musicality. I enjoyed it and still do, Intension is the best thing they've ever done.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Nekov on January 23, 2014, 01:43:35 PM
It's been so long that I no longer expect anything from them other than a new album coming out....
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Kotowboy on January 23, 2014, 03:50:55 PM
I'm not even expecting anything this year...
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on January 23, 2014, 05:57:48 PM
I'm not even expecting anything for the next couple years...
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: NotePad on January 23, 2014, 07:36:28 PM
They are actually working on music. Look for the most recent update, where it's said they were finishing up an 'epic', and was almost ready to send to Maynard. That's cool. But what i hate hearing is that Maynard is so far removed from the band in the writing process. Apparently on 10k days he wasn't even able to record in the studio with Adam. Maybe that's part of why the lyrics were so-so. I'v always thought the themes explored in the lyrics of the Lateralus songs had Adam's name written all over them. Even though Maynard wrote them.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 23, 2014, 07:38:21 PM
They've been working on music forever, though. 
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Kotowboy on January 23, 2014, 07:49:14 PM
i would not be surprised if they released it in 2016 so it would be 10 years since 10,000 days.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 23, 2014, 07:49:53 PM
Maybe they're going to release it 10,000 days after 10,000 Days.

:omg:
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Kotowboy on January 23, 2014, 07:58:45 PM
Haha that would make it 27 years after 2006.

2033 !
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 23, 2014, 07:59:55 PM
:metal
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Kotowboy on January 23, 2014, 08:01:33 PM
Edited for maths fail.

Aside from not releasing albums any sooner than 5 years at a time - they're all pushing 50 and Danny has been there for some time.

If they leave it much longer - they're not going to be able to perform the songs.

It will be easy for Adam - he just has to stand still and play Dm Pentatonic for 90 minutes.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 23, 2014, 08:02:49 PM
:lol  Danny's really the only one I'd worry about, I don't think any of the rest of them have anything extremely difficult.

Well, some of Maynard's parts might be...
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: black_biff_stadler on January 23, 2014, 08:24:16 PM
Unless MJK's martial arts regimen is impeccable, he'll likely be a shell of himself in 5 years. He's had lots of parts that would be difficult even for a 35 year old (Eulogy 7:58 "Good..BYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYE!!!", that long-ass roar in The Grudge) so, barring anything extraordinary, next tour (assuming one even happens) will probably be everyone's final chance to see them without any noticeable weaknesses.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 23, 2014, 08:27:03 PM
Oh yeah, the part in The Grudge is amazing. Does he actually do that live? I remember searching for some videos on YouTube a while back, but I think I got distracted by something else. :lol
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: black_biff_stadler on January 23, 2014, 08:31:30 PM
If so, definitely not at every show if a friend of mine who's a huge Tool fan knew what she was talking about when she raved about "this one time when Maynard actually did the whole scream live." Even then, since they use a shitload of electronics in their live shows with all the ambient synth intros they do, that scream may have just been audio trickery anyway (real time looping or well-executed seamless tape playback injected in the midst of an otherwise live vocal peformance.)
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: lonestar on January 23, 2014, 10:38:41 PM
Well, if the gods are with me and I score tickets, I'll let you all know how they sound March 12th.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: black_biff_stadler on January 23, 2014, 10:52:22 PM
If you mean the day after since their site says it's March 11. Just wanna make sure you don't accidentally request the wrong day.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: lonestar on January 23, 2014, 11:01:14 PM
Yes, I was referring to the day after.  ;)
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Laich21DT on January 23, 2014, 11:43:27 PM
So Tool is coming to Spokane, Portland, and Eugene, but not Seattle? WTF. Seattle is almost as big as those three cities put together. Might head down to Oregon and see them with cousins in Eugene though.

Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: bout to crash on January 24, 2014, 08:58:34 AM
I can't seem to find on the website whether they're doing any other shows or just those...
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: lonestar on January 24, 2014, 09:20:23 AM
It looks like 5 west coast shows and one in Mexico. Tickets for SF go on sale at 10pst. (ROAD TRIP!!!!)




Edit: Them bitches went FAST. No dice. gonna have to look into scalper tix now :(

Edit #2: Paid an extra $50, but I'm finally gonna see Tool!!! :metal
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Kotowboy on January 24, 2014, 08:50:48 PM
I saw TOOL & Mastodon in 2006 at Wembley Arena. Really echoey sound but what a show !

Could barely hear Mastodon due to an almost empty arena when they were on.

But saw them at their own show at London HMV Forum in 2007 and they were amazing.

Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 24, 2014, 08:52:00 PM
It looks like 5 west coast shows and one in Mexico. Tickets for SF go on sale at 10pst. (ROAD TRIP!!!!)




Edit: Them bitches went FAST. No dice. gonna have to look into scalper tix now :(

Edit #2: Paid an extra $50, but I'm finally gonna see Tool!!! :metal

:metal :2metal: :letam:
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Kotowboy on January 24, 2014, 09:11:18 PM
Lateralus is the best them.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: NotePad on January 25, 2014, 02:46:40 AM
Mastadon and Tool, that's a pretty cool pair.

Tool's shows are fuckin great. Can't believe they haven't released a DVD yet. Adam Jones is such a perfectionist it's crazy. Look how long it took for their last music video to come out.

I remember hearing that a lot of shows from their recent tours from 10kD were recorded. But nothing ever happened. I know they'v said they don't want to do just a live performance on video, like everyone else. I for one would love that. But if they can come up with something amazing, then I'm in.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: bout to crash on January 26, 2014, 12:16:09 PM
Wow, looks like they added another SF date. Unfortunately they're on weeknights so there's no way :(
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: NotePad on January 26, 2014, 12:20:36 PM
Is Tool still touring?
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Zook on January 26, 2014, 12:35:39 PM
Is Tool still touring?

Nope, these are all LIES.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: NotePad on January 26, 2014, 12:56:43 PM
APC released a new one-off single that's really popular. Seems like they really want to make more music, but maybe aren't because Tool is working on a new one.

Iv been diggin the newer Puscifer cd. Conditions of my Parole. The first puscifer cd was pretty shitty, other then Momma Sed. But Conditions is so much better. The songs are of high quality, and feel like they were actually crafted with a lot of effort. I assume Maynard played the main role in writing the music, rather then just doing vocals. With Tool and APC he has no role in writing actual music. I read an interview from when 10k days was released where he seemed disappointed with the direction Adam and co. had taken with the music.

I was disappointed with his lyrics. His lyrics for Rosetta stoned turned the song into kind of a joke song. I love the theme of mystical and hallucinatory experiences, but not if it's just a joke.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: lonestar on January 26, 2014, 03:28:44 PM
Wow, looks like they added another SF date. Unfortunately they're on weeknights so there's no way :(


Do it. I'll wear the apron with nothing else on for ya  ;)
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: bout to crash on January 27, 2014, 09:32:41 AM
Fucking tease! I really can't do middle of the week :(
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: pain of occupation on January 27, 2014, 12:00:51 PM
I was disappointed with his lyrics. His lyrics for Rosetta stoned turned the song into kind of a joke song. I love the theme of mystical and hallucinatory experiences, but not if it's just a joke.

 :( it just might be my favorite song, lyrically
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: NotePad on February 13, 2014, 10:19:01 PM
I still think Rosetta Stoned is an incredibly awesome song. But with less silly lyrics it could have been even more.

What do you guys think of Undertown? I got into it after Lateralus and Aenima, so i was turned off at first. But now I think it's pretty impressive. Quite different and more straightforward then what they ended up doing after. Prison Sex is a great songs, I'm surprised Sober ended up being a way bigger hit then it.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: ReaperKK on February 14, 2014, 06:24:15 AM
I think Rosetta Stoned is a great song but it goes on for a bit too long, they should of ended it right after that huge climax.

Undertow is great, it's more a collection of songs, but really great songs.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: black_biff_stadler on February 14, 2014, 08:57:57 AM
it's more a collection of songs, but really great songs.

It almost sounds like you think slightly less of it for not being a concept or themed album. If I misread that, forgive me.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: pain of occupation on February 14, 2014, 09:43:50 AM
What do you guys think of Undertown? I got into it after Lateralus and Aenima, so i was turned off at first. But now I think it's pretty impressive. Quite different and more straightforward then what they ended up doing after. Prison Sex is a great songs, I'm surprised Sober ended up being a way bigger hit then it.

Lateralus
Aenima
10 000 Days


Opiate








Undertow
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Ben_Jamin on February 14, 2014, 09:49:37 AM
Undertow is good, but not my favorite,  I enjoy 4ļ, Undertow, Swamp Song and the hidden track Disgustipated.


Also, I like Rosetta Stoneds lyrics. It's a funny story of this guy whom was told about things but couldn't remember shit. Its all told in a hospital room as well, so maybe he actually did shit the bed. The song is a nice ying-yang from Third Eye.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: NotePad on February 15, 2014, 01:31:19 AM
I liked how Rosetta Stoned led up to a climax, like the song Lateralus, except totally different.... Not as rewarding, but still a great climax. Like someone said, it may have been better if they ended it after the climax. I'v never had an experience listening to a song like the first time I heard Lateralus from start to finish. The way it builds- just amazing.

I feel like Lateralus the album is somewhat of a concept album, even if it isn't. I may have said this before, but I feel like the album deals with spiritual themes, the soul, and other metaphysical-like ideas. I love that fuckin album. I don't think Tool can ever top it. I feel like they can't go any further mucsically, like Lateralus was the album everything led up to. I hope the do something more amazing and something you could never think of on their next one.
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 15, 2014, 03:40:30 AM
Is there a good reason not to retitle the thread to just "Tool News"?
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Ben_Jamin on February 15, 2014, 04:06:55 AM
Call it...Tools, Tool?
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: Nekov on February 15, 2014, 06:06:41 AM
Is there a good reason not to retitle the thread to just "Tool News"?

Tool News would be a lie most of the time  :lol, let's just call it the Tool thread
Title: Re: Tool News - November 12th 2009 !??!
Post by: krands85 on February 15, 2014, 06:18:43 AM
Or, we could use the actual Tool thread here  :lol  (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=18743.0)
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Kotowboy on February 15, 2014, 06:41:09 AM
:lol It Is Done.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: ReaperKK on February 15, 2014, 08:00:59 AM
it's more a collection of songs, but really great songs.

It almost sounds like you think slightly less of it for not being a concept or themed album. If I misread that, forgive me.

Oh no, not at all, I think it's a great album.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: NotePad on February 15, 2014, 11:35:21 PM
Does anyone else remember sometime after 10000 Days was released and the band was touring that there was talk of Tool releasing a live DVD, and how people were seeing professional camera's filming their live shows? Didn't Adam Jones ever address this?

I know a Tool DVD would be amazing, because Jones would not let it be anything less. He has film experience himself, and lots of other creative talent with visual arts. I doubt it would just be a live performance, although that would be amazing. They should at least let one of their filmed shows be released on DVD, and if they have a desire to do something more with another DVD then work on another DVD!!!

I wonder if Alex Grey will be doing the art for their next album. I fucking love what he did with Lateralus and 10k. The Vicarious video is one of the coolest things I've ever seen.
Title: Maynard is a Tool.
Post by: Kotowboy on February 16, 2014, 04:34:32 AM
Maynard said there will never be a Tool album because :

" Then people will come to the shows expecting cool angles and zooms "

 :facepalm:






Because that's what I expect every time I go to a gig and I wonder why my eyes can't zoom in and switch between members.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 16, 2014, 07:02:33 AM
:lol It Is Done.
:clap:
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: NotePad on February 22, 2014, 12:34:27 PM
Tool is incredibly popular it seems. If memory serves me right, 10000 days reached #1 and stayed there for quite awhile. That's awesome. I'd say they're like the new pink Floyd, although musically they're more similar to King Crimson or Sabbath.

Anyone ever listen to the first 30seconds to mars album? It's very different from their newer stuff, and is something that will appeal more to fans of bands like Tool, and progressive Space Metal (new subgenre?)
Title: Re: Maynard is a Tool.
Post by: pain of occupation on February 22, 2014, 03:03:10 PM
Maynard said there will never be a Tool album because :

" Then people will come to the shows expecting cool angles and zooms "

 :facepalm:

album = DVD?

Tool is incredibly popular it seems. If memory serves me right, 10000 days reached #1 and stayed there for quite awhile. That's awesome. I'd say they're like the new pink Floyd, although musically they're more similar to King Crimson or Sabbath.

Anyone ever listen to the first 30seconds to mars album? It's very different from their newer stuff, and is something that will appeal more to fans of bands like Tool, and progressive Space Metal (new subgenre?)

idk about being musically similar to PF or BS...probs some king crimson, though im not familiar w enough of their material.

as for progressive space metal, i'd say the term's been used a bunch. Amplifier, who can actually sound a hell of a lot like tool when they wanna, would definitely fit into that category.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 22, 2014, 03:10:04 PM
I'm pretty sure Ayreon are progressive space metal.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: pain of occupation on February 22, 2014, 07:30:55 PM
yes, that too.

even Heart of Cygnus and BTBAM try their damndest to qualify.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: NotePad on February 22, 2014, 10:40:20 PM
I'v seen a few video's on youtube listed New Tool or something like that. Of course they're fake, but some of them capture that Tool sound really well. I'd say it would be cool in a way if some of the people doing that stuff actually made a complete album imitating Tool. They could get one of those Maynard-wannabe vocalists, like the guy from Chevelle.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: black_biff_stadler on February 23, 2014, 04:09:56 AM
Except good though.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on March 06, 2014, 08:44:52 PM
http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/03/tools-new-album-is-finished-finally/

Quote
Here’s a sentence eight years in the making: Tool have finished their new studio album.

According to Crave Online, guitarist Adam Jones has confirmed that the long-awaited follow-up to 2006′s 10,000 Days is ”100% done” and should arrive later this year.

In an interview with Loudwire last summer, drummer Danny Carey insinuated that some outside forces were holding up the album’s release. ”We could have the record finished by the end of the year – that’s a possibility, but the logistics of getting it manufactured and getting the record company in line and all this stuff, I doubt we’ll be able to get it out before Christmas. We’ll see how it goes. Most likely, it’ll be early 2014.”

Meanwhile, frontman Maynard James Keenan spoke about the band’s intricate recording process in an interview with Rolling Stone last November. ”I don’t write the music. They write the music,” he said of his bandmates. “I wait for them to bring music to me. They tend to go back over and over stuff. It’s a long process. For a person like me, it can be a very tedious process.”

Keenan continued, ”In some ways, they are bigger perfectionists. But you can only help support their talent so long. They don’t have to go through it 700 times. They can trust that first thought. But that’s their process, so you gotta let them do it.” And is that process happening? “I couldn’t tell you.”

Tool is currently touring the U.S., their first such jaunt in two years. Thus far, they’ve stuck to the greatest hits.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Zook on March 06, 2014, 08:50:34 PM
lol


5 years later...
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on March 06, 2014, 08:51:38 PM
....I didn't think this could actually happen.


...I still don't think this can actually happen.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: PolarizeMe on March 06, 2014, 09:04:06 PM
Pinch me, I must be dreaming!

Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Nel on March 06, 2014, 09:08:25 PM
I'll believe it when I see it in the store.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: adace on March 06, 2014, 09:14:10 PM
 :omg:
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: wolfking on March 06, 2014, 09:24:27 PM
I know it says it right there, but I find this hard to believe.

Even if they have finished it, I doubt we'll see it this year.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: lonestar on March 06, 2014, 09:37:06 PM
Let's get some other things out of the way first, like my first ever Tool show next Tuesday!!! :metal
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: El Barto on March 06, 2014, 10:32:58 PM
Let's get some other things out of the way first, like my first ever Tool show next Tuesday!!! :metal
Looks like they're sticking with the standard fair. All songs that have been on the last couple of tours thus far. There's only been one show, but it does seem they're going heavier as opposed to a lot of the more ambient type stuff.

I actually came here to post a video of Lateralus, but since you'll be seeing it live for the first time in a few nights I'll not spoil anything.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Ben_Jamin on March 06, 2014, 10:44:50 PM
Alright.  Looking forward to the newest Tool. 10,000 Days has one of my all-time favorite songs on it, Intension which was Amazing live when I saw them
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 07, 2014, 05:12:20 AM
http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/656301-exclusive-new-tool-album-reportedly-finished-set-for-2014-release

What do we reckon ? More mis-information ? For reals this time ?
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2014, 05:20:08 AM
A bit late bro, but still, it's hard to believe.  I ain't holding my breath.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 07, 2014, 05:26:26 AM
I believe this more than I believe Metallica are writing.


The Tool news whilst slow has at least been fairly consistent..

" we're writing....we're working on the epic....we're still writing...Maynard hasn't written any vocals yet....the songs are done...waiting for maynard....finished...."

With Metallica it's been..

" We've got 5 or 6 songs finished.....album starts in 2011....we've been in the studio writing for several weeks in 2013....we don't have any finished songs yet.....we haven't started writing yet.....new song in March....We haven't written a new song yet..."

Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: ReaperKK on March 07, 2014, 05:41:56 AM
Nice! It'll be interesting to hear.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: lonestar on March 07, 2014, 06:28:55 AM
First show's tonight in Portland, I'm sure we'll hear if new stuff is cranking or not by tomorrow.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: ? on March 07, 2014, 08:09:25 AM
They've actually played a couple of shows already and the setlists can be found at setlist.fm.

Tool have unnecessarily long gaps between their album releases, but at least haven't made the fans wait for over 20 years like My Bloody Valentine did after Loveless :P
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: PolarizeMe on March 07, 2014, 08:27:18 AM
But in the case of My Bloody Valentine, they ACTUALLY broke up in between Loveless and MBV. In Tool's case, they were just on hiatus in between album cycles.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: adace on March 07, 2014, 12:54:07 PM
Story's fake: https://twitter.com/AdamJones_tv/status/442003891551342592 (https://twitter.com/AdamJones_tv/status/442003891551342592)
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: WebRaider on March 07, 2014, 01:07:10 PM
Story's fake: https://twitter.com/AdamJones_tv/status/442003891551342592 (https://twitter.com/AdamJones_tv/status/442003891551342592)


(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-hbLTd-3Jmds/Tw_4k1FNaBI/AAAAAAAAb8o/rZ554_6GOE0/s1600/213802-goodgrief_super.jpg)
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Dark Castle on March 07, 2014, 01:08:35 PM
At this point, I'm not sure if I can muster up a fuck to give about this band anymore.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 07, 2014, 01:10:58 PM
Had to be.

At this point, I'm not sure if I can muster up a fuck to give about this band anymore.


Add Metallica to that as well.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: ReaperKK on March 07, 2014, 01:30:15 PM
I wonder if they have even written a single note for the new record....

Oh well . . .
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 07, 2014, 01:33:17 PM
Two new albums that - if they ever come out - I will listen to them - but i don't care about either band anymore.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2014, 03:35:39 PM
Story's fake: https://twitter.com/AdamJones_tv/status/442003891551342592 (https://twitter.com/AdamJones_tv/status/442003891551342592)

Knew it.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2014, 03:37:25 PM
Two new albums that - if they ever come out - I will listen to them - but i don't care about either band anymore.

I think Metallica will do something.  They are certainly more active and have more of a chance of getting something out way before Tool IMO.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Dark Castle on March 07, 2014, 03:45:21 PM
While it's true that Metallica take their sweet time with new albums, at least they stay busy and put out other stuff.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 07, 2014, 03:48:30 PM
In some ways I'm glad that bands like Mastodon, Therapy? and Dream Theater need to tour / record / tour / record / tour record.

It almost guarantees new music regularly.  If DT13 suddenly sold 30 million copies - they might start to get lazy and complacent too.


Plus - Therapy? and DT have such small gaps between releasing an album / touring / getting back into the writing process - that if you don't like one album -

- you don't have *that* long to wait until the next one.

If you didn't like "Reload" - you had to wait a further 6 years to get "St. Anger" and then another 5 for "Death Magnetic" and now another 6 years and counting...

And if you didn't like " 10,000 Days " back in 2006 well ... Bad luck  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: El Barto on March 07, 2014, 05:05:37 PM
Looks like the folks up in Portland got 3rd Eye instead of Hooker with a Penis. Big improvement. Kind of makes me wish I were seeing both Texas shows now instead of just one.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: PolarizeMe on March 07, 2014, 05:44:50 PM
If I ever get the chance to see Tool live and they play Third Eye it would probably go down as one of my greatest live concert experiences ever. The live version on Salival is amazing.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Implode on March 07, 2014, 05:53:23 PM
Just read the past few pages of the thread...  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: kingshmegland on March 07, 2014, 08:11:51 PM
I saw them open with Third Eye in 1997.  Shitty place to see them.  The sound was terrible at this college in Fitchburg, Ma.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: pain of occupation on March 08, 2014, 01:11:31 PM
tool = quite possibly the least enjoyable concert ive been to.
for sure the worst in comparison to how much I like the band's music. gave em a 2/10. they mighta got a 4 had I ingested a hallucinogen.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: black_biff_stadler on March 08, 2014, 05:59:11 PM
Agreed 100%.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Zook on March 08, 2014, 06:02:29 PM
I was in the nose bleeds and the show was still pretty cool sober.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on March 08, 2014, 06:51:34 PM
I saw them live once and thought it was pretty great. We were all the way in the back of the arena so we could barely even see the band, but the setlist was great and the whole lighting/production was amazing.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: black_biff_stadler on March 08, 2014, 07:05:22 PM
I didn't mean they put on a shitty show but the fact that at least 20 minutes of the roughly 2 hour set was needlessly wasted with lengthy synth intros/segues that were way bland compared to their actual songs was fucking infuriating since it basically meant I paid $60 for barely more than 90 minutes of actual songs and they didn't play anything from before ∆nima. Those extra 20 minutes would've been at least 3 songs.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: jammindude on March 08, 2014, 07:15:27 PM
I've heard that their shows take the focus away from the band, and really are more about "the art of the spectacle"...  I think that sounds like an awesome concept that no one (save Pink Floyd) has really tried.    Would you guys say that's an accurate description of a Tool show?
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Phoenix87x on March 08, 2014, 07:34:59 PM
The spectacle of it had a floyd vibe, but that I had no problem with. My issue was with Maynard phoning it in big time. At least he did with my show. It was like he didn't even want to be there.

And he was not like that back in 2000 when I saw him with APC. With that show he had mammoth stage presense and held the audience in his hand.

All in all, I was pretty let down by seeing Tool, but it was on my concert to do list, so what evs. I won't be seeing them again though.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: jammindude on March 08, 2014, 07:43:50 PM
That is surprising to me that Maynard was EVER a big time front man, because the stuff I've heard is that he has always had a tendency to shy away from the spotlight in concert....to the point of sometimes singing the entire show in the shadows behind the drumkit.   (thus, sticking to the idea of making a Tool concert more about the complete package of the music and spectacle rather than the actual musicians in the band)

I'm only going off what I've heard described to me. 
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on March 08, 2014, 07:46:16 PM
...to the point of sometimes singing the entire show in the shadows behind the drumkit.

That's what he's been doing for all of the recent tours. He says it allows him to focus on his singing more, and to allow the other three guys to get more attention.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: kingshmegland on March 08, 2014, 07:50:59 PM
The show I saw in 97 he had his back to us the whole show and was painted up like Blue Man Group and only wore a white silk boxers with red little hearts on them. :lol
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on March 08, 2014, 08:09:41 PM
Maynard's an odd guy.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: El Barto on March 08, 2014, 08:25:33 PM
I never thought it was about the spectacle in as much as the big picture. They certainly try to deemphasize the performers somewhat in relation to the music, and an active stage show does that. Still, 3 of them are usually lit up and fun to watch. As for Maynard, Tool is about more than just him. He'd rather be in the background for his own reasons, and for the sake of the band who are wrongly unappreciated in comparison. Consider that 1/3 to 1/2 of the audience are drunken assholes who only know Maynard and just went to here AEnima and Forty-six and 2. That's been his explanation for why he leaves the stage and doesn't participate in the whole group bow thing. The band deserves the appreciation more than him, and I agree with him.

That said, Maynard has good nights and nights that he just takes a piss. I've seen him do a variety of neat and/or peculiar things. When he was Officer Maynard he walked to the front of the stage and issued a parking ticket to the guest drummer's kit. I've also seen Reverand Maynard and Mrs. Maynard perform (Texas usually gets Cowboy Maynard). My issue isn't with his stage presence but his varying interest in singing the parts. Some nights he really belts it out and others he's just phoning it in.

edit: JD, he's never behind the drum kit. There's a double sized riser with DC on one half and Maynard on the other. While DC and the other lads have some lighting on them, Maynard remains in shadow of the large screens behind him. You'll often see him pretty well and other times he's just a silhouette.

This pretty much gives you the whole picture. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7MIdAXy9Bc&feature=player_detailpage#t=436 It's pretty much what they do now.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Ben_Jamin on March 08, 2014, 10:39:10 PM
10, 000 Days tour had their best production. The entire stage was one big video screen, it made for some amazing moments for us in the seats. Also, during the intermission, after 10, 000 days, Adam and Justin just stayed onstage and sat at the end of thr stage towards the audience. The entire venue then lit up with lighters, it looked like a candlelight vigil. Was really amazing.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 09, 2014, 06:13:21 AM
10, 000 Days tour had their best production. The entire stage was one big video screen, it made for some amazing moments for us in the seats. Also, during the intermission, after 10, 000 days, Adam and Justin just stayed onstage and sat at the end of thr stage towards the audience. The entire venue then lit up with lighters, it looked like a candlelight vigil. Was really amazing.

They did that for me too -  I was at Wembley Arena late 2006. With Mastodon supporting..
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: black_biff_stadler on March 09, 2014, 11:40:32 AM
Mastooldon.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: NotePad on March 10, 2014, 02:35:09 AM
They have some new shows planned, I believe. It's crazy how long it takes between new albums. It's getting ridiculous. But like i said earlier, there was an update a while ago describing songwriting taking place with the band. So this is Tool we're talking about, meaning we could wake up tomorrow and find out the release date of their next album. I hope a new Tool album is the real reason Perfect Circle is refraining from doing a new full-length album.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: PolarizeMe on March 10, 2014, 03:27:57 AM
They have some new shows planned, I believe.

I seriously hope by "new shows planned" that means they're planning some East Coast shows. If it is, then I hope one of them is a NYC date.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: lonestar on March 12, 2014, 01:41:40 AM
OK, that was easily one of the sickest, most mindblowing fucking shows I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: jingle.boy on March 15, 2014, 04:46:20 AM
You know it's not my thang, but  :tup none-the-less
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: TexansDT on March 16, 2014, 06:27:21 AM
Do they have an opener for this tour?
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: jammindude on March 23, 2014, 11:48:39 PM
I'm calling it right now....

The release date for the new Tool album will be September 20th 2033.


10,000 days from the release of their last album.     NUGGETZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: NotePad on March 24, 2014, 01:01:44 AM
This is crazy how long it takes between albums. I remember the reasons for the time between Aenima and Lateralus, which was label issues which is understandable. But these days, come on! I do realize that THEY probably realize the legacy Tool has, and it's a big one, so i can kinda see why they don't do a new one every 2 years, This was it makes a new Tool album a big event, just like a new Metallica, and in the circles I'v gravitated around, a new Linkin Park album (although their last one didn't make a very big splash. Then again i don't listen to radio anymore or talk to many into that stuff).

I'm sure we will get a new album within the next 2 years...but obviously 2 years is still waaay too long. I'm hoping within the next year it will be announced that they've finished a new album. If that does not happen, then it will destroy my already deteriorating opinion of the band. And i actually realize it's not Maynards fault, as i read where he himself said that they take too long to make new albums so he has to do other stuff like Puscifer, APC etc. It was in that big spread on Tool in that magazine a few years ago. Maynard said he get's frustrated by how much time it takes the other guys to complete the songs.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: black_biff_stadler on March 24, 2014, 01:29:58 AM
I think the legacy thing is a double-edged sword when you factor in how many fans get frustrated/pissed by their perpetual leadings on. Also, while some fans may judge an album with greater scrutiny due to the long time it took to come out, most Tool fans are so rabid for new material that they'll likely be so glad for its release that bad parts of it will be forgiven, average parts will be considered good, and anything good-or-better will be considered excellent. Kinda makes you wonder if Tool somewhat doubts themselves (especially after 10KD's failure to garner the same acclaim Lateralus did) and figures they can milk a better reception for the new album by dragging their heels.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: El Barto on March 25, 2014, 01:38:01 AM
I think the legacy thing is a double-edged sword when you factor in how many fans get frustrated/pissed by their perpetual leadings on. Also, while some fans may judge an album with greater scrutiny due to the long time it took to come out, most Tool fans are so rabid for new material that they'll likely be so glad for its release that bad parts of it will be forgiven, average parts will be considered good, and anything good-or-better will be considered excellent. Kinda makes you wonder if Tool somewhat doubts themselves (especially after 10KD's failure to garner the same acclaim Lateralus did) and figures they can milk a better reception for the new album by dragging their heels.
Rubbish. For one thing, you're already dismissing the possibility that maybe there's excellent material on the new album anyway. Next, name any band that's ever made every album better than the one that preceded it. You make albums and hope that people like them. Sometimes you make a masterpiece and sometimes you don't. The trick is to still make one occasionally. And as for 10k, I think pretty much everybody liked it a lot. It wasn't Lateralus, but expecting every album to live up to that is silly, and I suspect the guys in the band are wise enough to realize that. In fact, I suspect the guys are smart enough to realize that no matter what they do plenty of people will like it and plenty will bitch about it for whatever reason; just like any other successful band. Best to just do what makes you happy, I think.

As for me, I just enjoy seeing them live. One of the best shows I've seen from them tonight. Good setlist, band sounded great and Maynard showed up. All around great gig.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Ben_Jamin on March 25, 2014, 09:04:57 AM
What I like about Tool is their albums also are all one tied concept.

Undertow is about being in the rock bottom of your life, due to drugs etc...
Aenima  is after you crawled up from the bottom onto the surface viewing things in life differently, beginning the cleansing process to reach euphoria.
Lateralus, the process of releasing your ego and freeing your spiritual mind becoming one with all.
10, 000 Days is viewing the world again only the perception is completely different, like looking with fresh eyes and a clean mind at the world.

Its all just speculation, but I found that cool.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 25, 2014, 12:07:19 PM
What I like about Tool is their albums also are all one tied concept.

Undertow is about being in the rock bottom of your life, due to drugs etc...
Aenima  is after you crawled up from the bottom onto the surface viewing things in life differently, beginning the cleansing process to reach euphoria.
Lateralus, the process of releasing your ego and freeing your spiritual mind becoming one with all.
10, 000 Days is viewing the world again only the perception is completely different, like looking with fresh eyes and a clean mind at the world.

Its all just speculation, but I found that cool.

That does sound like something someone on the Tool Navy forum would post and there would be 50 pages discussing it :lol

Tenuous coincidence at best.

Lateralus can also be seen as a break-up or bad relationships album.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: NotePad on March 25, 2014, 12:59:48 PM
I don't think Iv ever heard a Tool fan say 10K was bad. I know some have been disappointed by it though, because considering how long it took there are not enough songs and some boring filler. I don't think they will ever top Lateralus. I really like 10K Days, but there's just not enough material on it.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 25, 2014, 01:30:07 PM
Yeah considering there are 11 tracks - there's only about 7 individual songs

1. Vicarious
2. Jambi
3. Wings For Marie / 10,000 Days
4. The Pot
5. Lost Keys / Rosetta Stoned
6. Intension
7. Right In Two.


And don't get me started on the whole Wings / Viginti Tres supposed mash-up.

I've heard a few iterations of it and it just doesn't work at all.

Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: NotePad on March 28, 2014, 12:04:29 AM
The song 10 000 Days i must admit is one of their best compositions so far. I only really listen to it every once in a while, because of the mood of it. Maynard was also doing some odd things with his voice on this album...
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on March 28, 2014, 12:22:51 AM
Some days I almost feel 10 000 Days is my favourite. I don't know there's lots I love on it.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 28, 2014, 06:09:21 AM
The song 10 000 Days i must admit is one of their best compositions so far. I only really listen to it every once in a while, because of the mood of it. Maynard was also doing some odd things with his voice on this album...

I like the Rosetta Stoned vocals. It was Maynard singing into a pipe with a guitar pickup inside.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Ben_Jamin on March 28, 2014, 07:15:56 AM
They did a lot of cool sound techniques. Like the Bass feedback in Lost Keys.

The mandala pad, I think was used in Right In Two, or Intension.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: NotePad on May 03, 2014, 11:27:51 PM
When the FUCK are they going to say something about a new album? WHERE THE FUCK IS IT???? I have begun to resent this band. Lazy fucks
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Zantera on May 04, 2014, 02:56:41 AM
A new album would be sweet but I try to not think about it. There's a lot of other music I keep myself busy with. If a new Tool album never happens, I will be fine, if it does eventually come out, that will be cool as well.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: wolfking on May 04, 2014, 03:56:12 AM
I'm pretty sure there's no such thing as a new album.  Don't think it will ever happen.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Ben_Jamin on May 04, 2014, 11:04:41 AM
I don't mind if they take their time. Its their choice, and no point getting mad.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Kotowboy on May 04, 2014, 11:55:52 AM
Difficult buggers that they are - I wouldn't be surprised if they were stringing everyone along this entire time.

Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: NotePad on May 06, 2014, 02:43:12 AM
But what bothers me is how they claimed the reason for the time between their other albums was legal problems with the label etc etc. Which was why Maynard did APC. And Jones and Carey even admitted to being somewhat worried about that.

I wonder if they'll have an excuse this time...
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Kotowboy on May 06, 2014, 06:20:28 AM
Both Metallica & Tool promised new albums a lot quicker this time around.

And in both cases it's taken a lot longer. :lol

Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: ReaperKK on May 06, 2014, 06:53:51 AM
I think they just aren't hungry for it. The are all older and successful, maybe the drive just isn't there to make another full album.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: adastra on June 04, 2014, 03:18:25 AM
I never had heard any music from Tool before last summer. I just "knew" that it was something progressive with some "psychedelic" influences.

So I decided to get 10000 days and it I was totally blown away by it :D !    It took me many many many listens to finally "get" the music but since then it has been one of my favourite bands.
I listened to 10000 days for 6 months before getting another album.. which was Lateralus.  Lateralus took even more listens to really get into.. But what a great album!

So , It has been almost a year now when I first time heard tool and I have only listened to those two albums... I'm gonna buy Aenima next and hope that it will same kind of impact on me as 10000 days and lateralus!

I'm really waiting for the new album.. I hope it comes this year! :P
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2014, 05:13:36 AM
I never had heard any music from Tool before last summer. I just "knew" that it was something progressive with some "psychedelic" influences.

So I decided to get 10000 days and it I was totally blown away by it :D !    It took me many many many listens to finally "get" the music but since then it has been one of my favourite bands.
I listened to 10000 days for 6 months before getting another album.. which was Lateralus.  Lateralus took even more listens to really get into.. But what a great album!

So , It has been almost a year now when I first time heard tool and I have only listened to those two albums... I'm gonna buy Aenima next and hope that it will same kind of impact on me as 10000 days and lateralus!

I'm really waiting for the new album.. I hope it comes this year! :P

Get Aenima NOW!!!
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 04, 2014, 05:24:12 AM

Get Aenima NOW!!!

Agreed, its a must have.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: adastra on June 04, 2014, 05:50:48 AM
I'M GONNA BUY IT NEXT WEEK! O_O 
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2014, 05:51:36 AM
I'M GONNA BUY IT NEXT WEEK! O_O

That's too far away.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: NotePad on June 05, 2014, 02:08:47 AM
In my eyes 'Lateralus' is their masterpiece. It embodies everything that Tool is. All their other albums are great, but Lateralus is all of them combined. Hitting the songs Lateralus and then Reflection are such amazing experiences, because the whole album is like some kind of spiritual journey and by the end it feels so complete. It was apparently a coincidence that the lyrical meanings went so well with the concepts Adam Jones and co. were incorporating into the music. This i read in some interview.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 05, 2014, 05:12:53 AM
I agree. I don't think anything Tool ever releases will top Lateralus for me. It is the complete package.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: adastra on June 05, 2014, 05:41:45 AM
I actually think that 10000 days is better than lateralus :P
But both albums are masterpieces.... One of the best albums I have ever heard.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 05, 2014, 06:08:28 AM
I really ought to listen to 10000 days more; most of my experiences with Tool are limited to the first three albums.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: adastra on June 05, 2014, 06:20:10 AM
Is Undertow good???  I heard that it is more "grungeish" and less "psychedelish" :D
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 05, 2014, 06:28:10 AM
Is Undertow good???  I heard that it is more "grungeish" and less "psychedelish" :D

All Tool albums are good.

And yes, Undertow is very different in that they had a very aggressive, grungeish thing going on, but its still an excellent album. And its not like tool has 20 albums like Rush. Its 4 proper albums, then the 1 EP and Its worth having them all.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 05, 2014, 06:49:58 AM
Untertwo is great. As Phoenix mentioned, its a quite aggressive. It also has a very raw feel to it, that I really enjoy.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Ben_Jamin on June 05, 2014, 09:48:44 AM
Is Undertow good???  I heard that it is more "grungeish" and less "psychedelish" :D

All Tool albums are good.

And yes, Undertow is very different in that they had a very aggressive, grungeish thing going on, but its still an excellent album. And its not like tool has 20 albums like Rush. Its 4 proper albums, then the 1 EP and Its worth having them all.

You forgot Salival. A dvd of their music videos up to Aenima, and a cd of live and studio tracks, it has the Timothy Leary intro of Third Eye, a badass reinterpretation of Pushit, part of me live, Merkaba (a nice spacey, trip instrumental), A cover of No Quarter, and Maynards Dick after L.A.M.C. its worth tracking down for the live songs and Merkaba.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 05, 2014, 10:02:18 AM
Is Undertow good???  I heard that it is more "grungeish" and less "psychedelish" :D

All Tool albums are good.

And yes, Undertow is very different in that they had a very aggressive, grungeish thing going on, but its still an excellent album. And its not like tool has 20 albums like Rush. Its 4 proper albums, then the 1 EP and Its worth having them all.

You forgot Salival. A dvd of their music videos up to Aenima, and a cd of live and studio tracks, it has the Timothy Leary intro of Third Eye, a badass reinterpretation of Pushit, part of me live, Merkaba (a nice spacey, trip instrumental), A cover of No Quarter, and Maynards Dick after L.A.M.C. its worth tracking down for the live songs and Merkaba.

Agreed.

 Salival is definitely another excellent addition and I completely forgot about it. I think I'm going to have to dig that out, its been a while.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Ben_Jamin on June 05, 2014, 10:09:02 AM
I have mine sitting next to me, when I read your post I happened to look at it.

I lucked out when I found it on amazon, like new but used
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: goo-goo on June 05, 2014, 11:04:29 AM
I'm not a fan of Opiate or Undertow for that matter. Aenima, Lateralus, and 10k days are the only Tool albums I listen to (I think there's one or two songs of Undertow that I really like), Lateralus being my favorite (one of my all time favorite albums actually). It's perfect imo.

If you guys haven't checked out Volto, give it a spin. It's great to hear Danny Carey on a fusion setting. And the music is not too shabby either.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: seasonsinthesky on June 05, 2014, 12:05:17 PM
oh man, the Volto record is AMAZING. their guitar player clearly goes for the same thing as Adam so it sounds like a Tool jam record!
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: PolarizeMe on June 05, 2014, 09:52:19 PM
If I had to rank the Tool albums...

Lateralus > ∆nima > 10,000 Days > Undertow

If I included Opiate, I'd actually rank it higher than Undertow believe it or not.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 06, 2014, 03:11:17 AM
Tool is the one and only band I can't rank. I pretty much Like all the albums equally. It just depends on mood, which one I will listen to.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: ReaperKK on June 06, 2014, 01:00:24 PM
I'm not a fan of Opiate or Undertow for that matter. Aenima, Lateralus, and 10k days are the only Tool albums I listen to (I think there's one or two songs of Undertow that I really like), Lateralus being my favorite (one of my all time favorite albums actually). It's perfect imo.

If you guys haven't checked out Volto, give it a spin. It's great to hear Danny Carey on a fusion setting. And the music is not too shabby either.

I was really impressed with the Volto record, I should give it a spin this afternoon.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Kotowboy on June 06, 2014, 01:16:35 PM
Tool is the one and only band I can't rank. I pretty much Like all the albums equally. It just depends on mood, which one I will listen to.

Oh I can. i think Lateralus is absolutely their best album. After that it goes Aenima > 10,000 Days > undertow. :)
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Kotowboy on June 08, 2014, 04:57:12 PM
Quote
TOOL NEWSLETTER
JUNE 2014 E.V.
MERCURY RETROGRADE
Be prepared for lots of problems as MERCURY GOES RETROGRADE UNTIL... JULY 1. So, if your cell phone call drops out in the canyon... If your order from the shopping bazaar is the wrong shirt size... If your Bic won't spark that blunt after only 2,999 flicks... If your VHS tape of "The Eighteen Year Old SchoolGirls" suddenly has a faulty end-of-tape detection mechanism... If the Cheetos nubs in the bag are smaller than usual... If your car battery goes dead (and there's no alien spaceship that sounds like a broken lawnmower nearby)... If they get your order wrong at the Jack-In-The-Box drive-thru... If your cochlear neural interface implant goes on the fritz... If the commercials are louder than the television show that your watching... If you get bitten by a black widow spider after falling onto the floor after being hit between the eyes by popped champagne cork... YOU NOW KNOW WHAT TO BLAME.
Also, if you are currently working on ANY creative project, you should probably stop until after July 1... Unless, of course, you are in a band called TOOL, and busy working on material for a new record. If this is the case, back up your hard drive... and go with the flow!
SLIART YPPAH

Be prepared for fuck all happening on July 1st :lol

Just like when they advertised November 2009 as a "untitled Tool Project" . . . .
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: TioJorge on June 08, 2014, 05:21:38 PM
It's like watching a fuckload of fish storming the food pellets.

Not here, but every other person I know that is into Tool is freaking out, and on other message boards. Ugh... It's cool seeing updates, sure; but yeah, every announcement is nothing but lubrication for an ass-fucking.

Until it isn't. When that time comes, so will I. Till then, I'm just beatin' the meat.  :\ :corn
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on June 08, 2014, 05:29:19 PM
I can't ever tell what the newsletter is actually saying. It's just gibberish.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: TioJorge on June 08, 2014, 05:32:36 PM
I suppose that's mostly the point. It could be big news, it probably isn't, but it's so faded beneath loads of bullshit that most of the dimwitted tools (LLLLLOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL) fall for it anyway. It'd be nice if it was. I'm expecting zilch. Moving along...
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 08, 2014, 06:05:21 PM
Quote
TOOL NEWSLETTER
JUNE 2014 E.V.
MERCURY RETROGRADE
Be prepared for lots of problems as MERCURY GOES RETROGRADE UNTIL... JULY 1. So, if your cell phone call drops out in the canyon... If your order from the shopping bazaar is the wrong shirt size... If your Bic won't spark that blunt after only 2,999 flicks... If your VHS tape of "The Eighteen Year Old SchoolGirls" suddenly has a faulty end-of-tape detection mechanism... If the Cheetos nubs in the bag are smaller than usual... If your car battery goes dead (and there's no alien spaceship that sounds like a broken lawnmower nearby)... If they get your order wrong at the Jack-In-The-Box drive-thru... If your cochlear neural interface implant goes on the fritz... If the commercials are louder than the television show that your watching... If you get bitten by a black widow spider after falling onto the floor after being hit between the eyes by popped champagne cork... YOU NOW KNOW WHAT TO BLAME.
Also, if you are currently working on ANY creative project, you should probably stop until after July 1... Unless, of course, you are in a band called TOOL, and busy working on material for a new record. If this is the case, back up your hard drive... and go with the flow!
SLIART YPPAH


Fuck that non sense.

I can't even take even take their website seriously, with all that bullshit.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: TioJorge on June 08, 2014, 06:08:27 PM
Tool is the chick that fondles you and acts like a Tijuana hooker, then when you try to move in, she slaps you and calls you a womanizer.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: bout to crash on June 08, 2014, 08:40:57 PM
THAT WAS ONE TIME! IT WAS A BAD DAY!  >:(
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: adastra on June 08, 2014, 11:57:01 PM
Yeah!  I just bought Aenima!  ;D
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Bolsters on June 09, 2014, 12:00:12 AM
I find it interesting they don't specify whether or not they are referring to July 1st, 2014. :lol
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Kotowboy on June 09, 2014, 08:56:46 AM
The Tool site is so shit - they don't even have 10,000 days in the discography section.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Mindflux on June 09, 2014, 09:26:34 AM
The Tool site is so shit - they don't even have 10,000 days in the discography section.

They won't add it until it's been out 10,000 days.  :P
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Kotowboy on June 09, 2014, 11:11:45 AM
So next week then :p
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Ben_Jamin on June 09, 2014, 08:50:22 PM
10, 000 days Is the fake album that's why. Haha
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: adastra on July 09, 2014, 02:09:15 AM
I have listened Aenima for about 20 times now.  It's pretty good album! I think that The Third Eye might be my favourite song from the album at the moment.
But I got to say that Aenima doesn't even come close to the greatness of 10000 days... for now.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 09, 2014, 04:18:09 AM
For me, Pushit, H., Eulogy and Third Eye are my faves off the album.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Jaq on July 15, 2014, 05:30:22 PM
I wasn't aware of the legal problems mentioned in this article:

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/tools-adam-jones-danny-carey-explain-new-album-delay/

Of course, the "it's done when it's done" comment has me thinking we're looking at a 2016 release minimum  :lol
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: TioJorge on July 15, 2014, 06:10:37 PM
You know, even though I have no problem waiting for albums anyway, it should shut the whiners right up (not referencing anything here so don't go all drama) with the comment "It's not good when it's done, it's done when it's good". I really like that he said that and it's a reminder that the longer you work on something, the more it (hopefully lolz) gets better, more refined. Hopefully everything is finally resolved before the final work begins but it sounds like they just need to figure out their own lives and get shit done, then they can get together and hash out an epic. It's cool to hear they've got one already it sounds.

But y'know, they've been at least keeping us updated as opposed to the last few years and it's been getting more and more steady. Either way it's getting there, good to hear.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Nick on July 15, 2014, 09:32:01 PM
I'm by no means a Tool fan, but I happened across that article today and couldn't help but laugh my ass off. Such a lawsuit wouldn't keep a band of Tool's status from having an album all but on the shelves if they really wanted it. They might not be able to release anything right now, but they've had more than enough time to be one step away from that. For a band that is notorious for making fans wait this "news" seems like nothing but a cop out.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: TioJorge on July 15, 2014, 09:38:26 PM
I think that's a bit much, it isn't as if they're making out the lawsuit to be the only reason that they haven't released anything. I don't see why they'd lie about that, they clearly don't feel any need to appease the fans, and I'm fine with that. I think the term 'making the fans wait' is kinda odd...a band releases material when they release it. It's not like they were on a specific schedule for any long period of albums.  :lol I just don't see the cop out in this...it's just news, and 'a part' of the reason for delay.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 15, 2014, 10:02:37 PM
I'm by no means a Tool fan, but I happened across that article today and couldn't help but laugh my ass off. Such a lawsuit wouldn't keep a band of Tool's status from having an album all but on the shelves if they really wanted it. They might not be able to release anything right now, but they've had more than enough time to be one step away from that. For a band that is notorious for making fans wait this "news" seems like nothing but a cop out.

It would if its all you can focus on at the moment.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: NotePad on July 15, 2014, 10:58:34 PM
Just read the article. It was actually seeming like they were in the middle of making a new album and therfor I felt hope. But this? This just guarantees and even longer wait. Who knows how long this could go on for. I find it hard to believe this is the reason there is no new Tool.

I often compare DT to Tool. Tool takes years to make an album. DT can't stop they're constant writing/recording process. But the guys in DT live and breathe Dream Theater, whereas the Tool guys have all sorts of things they do besides Tool. But both are considered the two major progressive Metal bands at present.

And i know now that clearly this has nothing to do with Maynard. It's the other guys. A recent interview with Maynard had him saying things that looked as if he was frustrated with the other guys for being so slow. That's why he has APC and Puscifer. But unfortunately neither compare to Tool (although 13th Step was just brilliant).

And also, DT seem to released a live DVD every new album tour it seems. There has been a Tool DVD in the making for years and years now. I don't understand why they can't just release a DVD at least. Clearly there is footage. I remember hearing how there were film cameras seen at a lot of their concerts not long after 10000 days was released.

This band is frustrating me sooo much. They are the most unique band out there. Time is wasting.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Dark Castle on July 15, 2014, 11:10:04 PM
I'm by no means a Tool fan, but I happened across that article today and couldn't help but laugh my ass off. Such a lawsuit wouldn't keep a band of Tool's status from having an album all but on the shelves if they really wanted it. They might not be able to release anything right now, but they've had more than enough time to be one step away from that. For a band that is notorious for making fans wait this "news" seems like nothing but a cop out.

It would if its all you can focus on at the moment.
Clearly it's not seeing as they release plenty of other music through other bands.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Kotowboy on July 16, 2014, 03:26:01 AM
Exactly like Volto!

They're so full of it. One lawsuit shouldn't have delayed an album this much - especially when the lawsuit itself doesn't prevent them from making it.

if they said there was a lawsuit against them performing and recording as TOOL then maybe.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Kotowboy on July 16, 2014, 03:28:12 AM
They probably thought it would be "funny" to make people wait 10 years.

Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Zantera on July 16, 2014, 03:28:22 AM
Tool should get Kevin Shields to join the band and they can aim for a 2022 release date.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2014, 05:25:28 AM
Seriously, fuck Tool.  I love them an will love all their amazing albums, but fucking around the fans like this is just getting disrespectful.  They should be open and honest and say a new album is not likely, don't cocktease us.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 16, 2014, 07:26:30 AM
I've a suggestion to keep you all [and me] occupied.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Lolzeez on July 16, 2014, 09:02:20 AM
Tool should get Kevin Shields to join the band and they can aim for a 2022 release date.
That'd be really weird yet so badass.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 16, 2014, 11:21:21 AM
I've a suggestion to keep you all [and me] occupied.

All you know about me is what I sold you, dumbfuck
I sold out long before you even heard my name
I sold my soul to make a record, dipshit
And then
You
Bought
OOONNNNNEEEEE!


The butthurt its  :corn
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: bout to crash on July 16, 2014, 09:04:27 PM
I've a suggestion to keep you all [and me] occupied.

I sang that at karaoke last night  :D :D
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: PolarizeMe on July 16, 2014, 10:30:11 PM
Tool should get Kevin Shields to join the band and they can aim for a 2022 release date.
That'd be really weird yet so badass.
At this point a new album or EP by My Bloody Valentine will be released before a new Tool album.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: NotePad on August 02, 2014, 12:34:42 AM
And the thing is, I'm pretty sure the 'upcoming' Tool album is the reason why APC is not doing a new record. APC recently released that single and it was a huge radio hit. But clearly Maynard's commitment to Tool is preventing a new full APC album. Because Jones and co. are believe it or not actually working on music, so they plan on a new album. 
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: adastra on August 26, 2014, 02:13:05 AM
Wassup?
I've been listening to Aenima for 3 months now.. It's pretty good album but it hasn't made same kind of impact on me as 10000 days and Lateralus.

I guess I could say that Lateralus has claimed it's spot as my favourite Tool album.  And I thought that nothing could beat 10000 days!

What a great fucking band :D 
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Kotowboy on August 26, 2014, 01:34:01 PM
∆nima is so much better without all the stupid segues.

Cut them out and it's a great 9 track album that flows much better.
Title: Re: Tool News v. Still No Album.
Post by: Phoenix87x on August 26, 2014, 01:56:12 PM
∆nima is so much better without all the stupid segues.

Cut them out and it's a great 9 track album that flows much better.

Yeah, its a lot better without them.
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 26, 2014, 02:39:18 PM
I actually enjoy Intermission,  Die Eier Von Satan, (-) Ions enough I have them as openers to their respective songs. Well, DEVS is alright on its own.

If I were to rank Aenima:

1. Pushit
2. Third Eye
3. H.
4. Aenema
5. Stinkfist
6. Eulogy
7. Jimmy
8. 46&2
9. Hooker
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on August 26, 2014, 04:32:30 PM
Die Eier Von Satan is awesome.
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: bout to crash on August 26, 2014, 04:50:17 PM
Yeah, y'all crazy. I think it's perfect the way it is.
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: wolfking on August 26, 2014, 06:00:43 PM
Yeah, y'all crazy. I think it's perfect the way it is.

This.  It's amazing the way it is.
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 26, 2014, 07:11:36 PM
Yeah, y'all crazy. I think it's perfect the way it is.

The Lateralus theory says otherwise. ..

Honestly I've tried it and it works.

I've done it like:

1. Parabol (a)
2. schism
3. Ticks, mantra ( cutting out leeches)
4. Lateralus
5. The patient
6. Disposition/Reflection(eon blue apocalypse)
8. Triad(cut out 2 minute silence)/
9. The Grudge
10. Leeches/ Faaip De Oiad

I love this a lot. It makes sense to me, plus its fun to do this


Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on August 26, 2014, 08:17:52 PM
(-) Ions is super cool on headphones.
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: adastra on August 26, 2014, 10:39:11 PM
I guess I'll get Undertow in couple of weeks.  I've heard Sober and I like it a lot!
I hope the rest of the album is as good.
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: bout to crash on August 27, 2014, 12:38:01 AM
Yeah, y'all crazy. I think it's perfect the way it is.

The Lateralus theory says otherwise. ..

Honestly I've tried it and it works.

I've done it like:

1. Parabol (a)
2. schism
3. Ticks, mantra ( cutting out leeches)
4. Lateralus
5. The patient
6. Disposition/Reflection(eon blue apocalypse)
8. Triad(cut out 2 minute silence)/
9. The Grudge
10. Leeches/ Faaip De Oiad

I love this a lot. It makes sense to me, plus its fun to do this

I don't understand what this has to do with what I said.
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 27, 2014, 12:23:03 PM
Me either, was drunk when I posted that.
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Post by: TioJorge on August 27, 2014, 12:25:41 PM
 :lol
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 27, 2014, 03:16:38 PM
Aenima is great the way it is. Those segues are the ones I enjoy. (-) Ions is great with headphones during a thunderstorm.
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Post by: TioJorge on August 27, 2014, 04:07:45 PM
I quite enjoy the little segues myself, for all their albums. I've never been a fan of rearranging an album. I'm of the mind that the album is just as much a work of art as a painting; it seems odd to me to want to change it or attempt to improve upon it (barring remixes and remasters of course, but more just rearranging or adding/subtracting). I'm not saying anything negative of those who do like it or enjoy rearranging albums, but I don't personally see any appeal in it.

I love the originals for just the way they are. Except Von Satan, unless I'm really angry and horny at the same time.
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Post by: bout to crash on August 28, 2014, 08:27:23 AM
Aw, I love that one. And yeah, I've never done the rearranging thing either.

Me either, was drunk when I posted that.

 :lol :lol
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Post by: T-ski on October 27, 2014, 10:50:56 AM
could it be....

http://instagram.com/p/uhvWM8q3IL/
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Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on October 27, 2014, 10:55:32 AM
I'm touching myself as I'm writing this post.
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Post by: Zook on October 27, 2014, 12:04:37 PM
It would be hilarious if that picture was taken during the recording of 10,000 Days.
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Post by: ReaperKK on October 27, 2014, 12:16:54 PM
It would be hilarious if that picture was taken during the recording of 10,000 Days.

Wouldn't be surprised lol
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Post by: Mebert78 on October 27, 2014, 12:42:16 PM
could it be....

http://instagram.com/p/uhvWM8q3IL/

(http://i61.tinypic.com/i5nhag.jpg)
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Post by: bout to crash on October 27, 2014, 01:03:12 PM
 :lol

I'm not getting too excited yet.
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Post by: TioJorge on October 27, 2014, 01:06:28 PM
:lol

I'm not getting too excited yet.

Most definitely not. It's still gonna be a while, no doubt about it. But it's good to have some proof that they still exist at all, musically.
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Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on October 27, 2014, 01:43:27 PM
won't believe it till i see it
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Post by: Kotowboy on October 27, 2014, 02:38:06 PM
won't believe it till i own the CD

FTFY & And if you're a tool obsessive - you still won't believe it. :neverusethis:
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Post by: wolfking on October 28, 2014, 05:20:02 AM
It would be hilarious if that picture was taken during the recording of 10,000 Days.

You know, looking at the pic, that could definitely be a possibility.
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Post by: Kotowboy on October 28, 2014, 05:40:59 AM
This is obviously the SECOND decoy album !!!

The real Lateralus follow up will come in 2021 !!!
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Post by: Kotowboy on October 28, 2014, 06:03:09 AM
Is that Justin operating the desk  ? Did he have short hair during 10,000 Days ?
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Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on October 31, 2014, 04:37:25 PM
No he cut it a couple years ago if I'm not mistaken.
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Post by: Fluffy Lothario on February 11, 2015, 07:07:49 PM
Relax people, no news.

I'm listening to Aenima for the first time in years and years. This album is nowhere near as good as I remember. Stinkfist, Pushit, Aenema, and Third Eye are great, and I'll give 46 & 2 a pass. The rest is somewhere between average and crap.
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Post by: Tom Bombadil on February 11, 2015, 08:02:14 PM
Relax people, no news.

I'm listening to Aenima for the first time in years and years. This album is nowhere near as good as I remember. Stinkfist, Pushit, Aenema, and Third Eye are great, and I'll give 46 & 2 a pass. The rest is somewhere between average and crap.
Eulogy would like a word with you.
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on February 11, 2015, 08:06:04 PM
Relax people, no news.

I'm listening to Aenima for the first time in years and years. This album is nowhere near as good as I remember. Stinkfist, Pushit, Aenema, and Third Eye are great, and I'll give 46 & 2 a pass. The rest is somewhere between average and crap.
Eulogy would like a word with you.

As well as H.
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Post by: Fluffy Lothario on February 11, 2015, 08:07:30 PM
Actually, Eulogy was the biggest surprise to me. It starts really strong, but gets lost and falls to bits after "don't you fucking lie", like they didn't know how to finish it well.

H is pretty ho-hum.
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Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2015, 08:13:42 PM
I listened to it a few weeks ago and it was still as brilliant as when my ears first heard it.
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Post by: Mosh on February 11, 2015, 08:35:14 PM
Euology is pretty boring. Easily my least favorite of the actual songs on Aenima. It's still my favorite Tool album though. Almost every song is great and it has Tool's best material by far I think. Only flaw are all the interlude things. They don't really add anything to the album for me.
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Post by: Big Hath on February 11, 2015, 09:13:37 PM
I listened to it a few weeks ago and it was still as brilliant as when my ears first heard it.

this
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on February 11, 2015, 09:15:03 PM
I think Aenima may have surpassed Lateralus as my favorite Tool album. I don't listen to the band much these days, but when I feel like I'm in the mood for them, I usually listen to Aenima. It's probably the darker atmosphere that makes me enjoy it a bit more.
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Post by: Kotowboy on February 12, 2015, 01:37:05 AM
Euology is pretty boring. Easily my least favorite of the actual songs on Aenima. It's still my favorite Tool album though. Almost every song is great and it has Tool's best material by far I think. Only flaw are all the interlude things. They don't really add anything to the album for me.

I made a playlist with just the 9 "songs" and the album flows way better way better without all that bullshit.
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Post by: Zantera on February 12, 2015, 04:04:20 AM
Lateralus > Aenima > 10 000 Days > Undertow
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Post by: Podaar on February 12, 2015, 06:55:16 AM
Lateralus > Aenima > 10 000 Days > Undertow>A great deal of other music in the universe.

FTFM
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Post by: Kotowboy on February 12, 2015, 08:05:35 AM
Lateralus > Aenima > 10 000 Days > Undertow

This exactly.
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Post by: seasonsinthesky on February 12, 2015, 11:02:18 AM
Euology is pretty boring. Easily my least favorite of the actual songs on Aenima. It's still my favorite Tool album though. Almost every song is great and it has Tool's best material by far I think. Only flaw are all the interlude things. They don't really add anything to the album for me.

I made a playlist with just the 9 "songs" and the album flows way better way better without all that bullshit.

same (except i threw in the NQ cover because it's amazing and was recorded then Ė funny how it adds up to the exact length of all the segues put together...). then again, the final tracklist certainly leaves an impression, and some charm is lost.

also, if you want "H." without "Useful Idiot" fading in, it's on the radio ready promo sampler (with the censored "Eulogy" and other songs).
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Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2015, 04:44:00 PM
Euology is pretty boring. Easily my least favorite of the actual songs on Aenima.

It's my favourite.
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Post by: PixelDream on February 12, 2015, 04:55:16 PM
Euology is pretty boring. Easily my least favorite of the actual songs on Aenima.

It's my favourite.

One of their best songs in my opinion.
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Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2015, 05:08:12 PM
Yep.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on February 12, 2015, 07:29:06 PM
Absolutely LOVE eulogy and always have.
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: Kotowboy on February 15, 2015, 12:47:32 PM
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/tool-is-in-the-studio-working-on-tunes/

TOOL might *actually* be recording.
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Post by: bout to crash on February 15, 2015, 07:46:36 PM
Aw shit. We'll see. I refuse to get excited at this point.
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Post by: ReaperKK on February 16, 2015, 08:02:14 AM
Aw shit. We'll see. I refuse to get excited at this point.

Same, I feel like every few months or so you hear that they are working on something or other./
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Post by: Zantera on February 16, 2015, 09:42:17 AM
I probably wouldn't believe a new Tool album was possible even if I held it in my own hands. Not even if I listened to it. I would still go: "This must be a really good copy-cat band" rather than "Oh crap, this actually is a new Tool album".

I predicted a long time ago that a new Tool album would be like a new My Bloody Valentine album. One of those myths that was talked about for 15-20 years, with comments like "yes its coming" and no action. The MBV album actually dropped after 22 years, so who knows.. maybe Tool will surpass that.
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Post by: Fluffy Lothario on February 16, 2015, 09:45:42 AM
This album has basically become The Chinese Democracy Pt 2. I totally wouldn't be surprised if we don't hear anything for years still.
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Post by: Zantera on February 16, 2015, 09:57:44 AM
I also think the fact that they blame the slow process on the law suits is ridiculous. There are a lot of bands who have fought many problems and still put out albums. If you want to put out an album, you put out an album. It feels like the members of Tool are just way too comfortable with their legacy and current status. There are some artists like Steven Wilson, who puts out music frequently, not just through his main projects (PT, solo) but also a number of side projects (Blackfield, No-Man, Bass Communion, IEM, Storm Corrosion), and even though quality of music is always subjective, you can just tell that he has a lot of great ideas, and he puts them into motion. He never struggles with material, and an amazing album like Fear of a Blank Planet resulted in an equally amazing EP like Nil Recurring, with leftover material from that album.

Tool to me are kinda like the polar opposite. I've always felt like Tool are just barely scraping by to get enough good material together, and I think it really showed on 10 000 Days. That album was a mixed bag of the amazing quality we expect from Tool, with some material that just wasn't up to the standard we want. I think they did a good job of masking it earlier. Albums like Aenima and Lateralus are pretty much perfect, and as long as we get near flawless albums after 5 year breaks, it's easy to ignore that. On 10k Days it kinda showed that they were struggling more IMO, and apart from the long time spans between albums, the band hasn't really put out EPs or other leftover material. To me it basically feels like Tool have to work so much harder than most bands to come up with good material. What they squeeze out in 6 years is equal to what SW squeezes out in 6 months. But as long as their next album is really good, it won't matter.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 16, 2015, 10:18:48 AM
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/tool-is-in-the-studio-working-on-tunes/

TOOL might *actually* be recording.
TOOLHEAD World Tour 2016!


Sry that was bad....
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Post by: PixelDream on February 17, 2015, 09:57:00 AM
I'm going to a gig this friday of the tribute band 'The Perfect Tool'. Anyone familiar with them?
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Post by: Mebert78 on February 17, 2015, 10:03:36 AM
No band dealt with more legal stuff in recent years than Queensryche, and both versions of Queensryche had managed to release albums during the lawsuits.  The decade-long gap between Tool albums is just odd to me.  Five years should be more than enough!
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Post by: Kotowboy on February 17, 2015, 01:37:48 PM
Apparently the lawsuits had dated back to 2007 and they'd only been solved This January.

And they hindered the band so much they only got 3 songs written in 8 years ?

Yeah whatever.
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Post by: Kotowboy on February 17, 2015, 01:41:58 PM
I think it could have more to do with a quote I read from Danny or Justin about writing with Adam.

He said Adam likes to explore every single possible arrangement an idea could possibly have.

They said this method of working was painfully slow and frustrating and nobody likes writing with Adam.

 :laugh: I can't prove this though and *of course* he could have been half joking. but I did read it a few years ago.
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Post by: Fiery Winds on March 01, 2015, 01:36:05 PM
https://instagram.com/p/zlgNazKKCr/

http://www.toolband.com/news/

Quote
TOOL NEWSLETTER  FEBRUARY 2015 E.V.
This month we learned that the members of Tool crossed paths with the members of Motorhead in a recording studio in L.A., and that Danny (along with Brent Hinds) is part of a new band called "Legend of the Seagullmen." With splash headlines like "Members Of Tool And Mastodon Join Forces To Create "Supergroup"... and "Motorhead's Mikkey Dee Confirms Tool Are In The Studio" appearing on many of the on-line metal magazine sites, it's perhaps understandable as to why many anxious fans jumped to certain conclusions. In the event that I failed to clear things up in a recent news post, for those who might still be excited or confused (or angry), let me try again to set things straight (without the multiple choices)...

As for the nautical-themed "Seagullmen", this Danny SIDE project has been in the works for quite some time (well over a year), and takes approximately ZERO time and energy from his focus on the next Tool record. With regards to the chance meeting between members of Tool and their friends in Motorhead in the same recording facility - this had absolutely nothing to do with the preparation, recording, mixing or mastering! of a new Tool album. Instead, it concerned another Tool project that has been in the works for a while. In fact, when I first heard about this project (way back when), I mentioned it in a news post as being a "curve ball" - meaning that it would be something unexpected by most Tool fans (as it was to me). Since then, some fans have guessed what this is, while others remain clueless, with many others believing that there really never was any such idiom to begin with. Well, with the chance meeting of Tool and Motorhead in the studio, along with Adam's reply to Mikkey Dee's question as to what Tool was doing there, we now have confirmation of this (figuratively speaking) "curve ball." (In keeping with the baseball vernacular, as I suggested before, "Change of Pace" might also work).

Which takes us to the big question: What's going on with the new Tool record? As I have said repeatedly, the band is currently in the writing/arranging process. Based on things that I've heard, I would hazard a guess that SEVERAL songs are now developed enough to have vocals added. At least one of these songs is quite lengthy, and took a very long time to finish. In theory, the others should go faster, but who knows what obstacles might await? Obviously there is still a lot of work to be done. Accordingly, you will be updated on any major progress and NOT hear about the band tracking the next record by some chance meeting in a recording studio.

Now that these other things have (hopefully) been put to rest, let's see about any current news. The first item would be that the members of the band will be taking a break from their writing/arranging sessions next week WHILE Aaron Harris ("ISIS", PALMS") sets up an area in the Loft for Maynard to be able to work on vocal melodies as the others play (loudly) their completed tunes. In that there is a lot of equipment to be moved and reorganized, it will take at least a few days to set up Maynard's 'station' in the adjoining room. Admittedly, this is exciting news, but let's not jump to any hasty conclusions...

Finally, before leaving the "City of Angeles" for a few days, Danny will be getting together (again) with Neil Peart, Stewart Copeland and others TONIGHT - so be on the lookout for another youtube clip of these friends jamming and having a downright good time! Hopefully, Danny saved some energy after last night's Kings/Redwings hockey game, not to mention the recent Lakers/Celtics match up at Staples...

Oh, I almost forgot. For those non-Thelemites out there who asked why the recent limited edition TOOL BLANKET (SOLD OUT) was priced at $156.00, the answer is that 156 = BABALON, the Sacred Whore and companion of the Great Beast 666 (To Mega Therion). So, there you go...
HAPPY TRAILS
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: bout to crash on March 01, 2015, 10:09:06 PM
Okay, so the next album ten years after the last seems realistic at this point.

Maybe.
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Post by: Fluffy Lothario on March 02, 2015, 07:11:07 AM
I don't in any way expect it to happen, but wouldn't it be amazing if, after ten years of fluffing, they pulled off the album of their careers?
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Post by: Zook on March 02, 2015, 09:09:43 AM
Maybe it's a concept album, and the amount of time they've taken is part of the concept.

TOOLhood.
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 02, 2015, 10:19:59 AM
Maybe it's a concept album, and the amount of time they've taken is part of the concept.

TOOLhood.

TOLOL
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Post by: Mebert78 on March 02, 2015, 10:33:37 AM
I'm curious to see if Tool waits so long to release a new album that it affects sales and interest in the band.  You know, like with GNR's Chinese Democracy.  I think Tool would sell well regardless of the amount of time that passes though.
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Post by: jammindude on March 02, 2015, 01:12:44 PM
I'm curious to see if Tool waits so long to release a new album that it affects sales and interest in the band.  You know, like with GNR's Chinese Democracy.  I think Tool would sell well regardless of the amount of time that passes though.

The dismal sales of Chinese Democracy had nothing to do with how long it took to release and EVERYTHING to do with the fact that it was an Axl Rose solo album in disguise.    No one cared anymore because even if the legal entity "Guns n Roses" technically still existed, the band that everyone loved had broken up. 

With Tool, that is not the case.
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Post by: Mebert78 on March 02, 2015, 02:50:05 PM
Good point!
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: bout to crash on March 02, 2015, 06:22:22 PM
Maybe it's a concept album, and the amount of time they've taken is part of the concept.

TOOLhood.

:lolpalm:
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: bl5150 on March 02, 2015, 06:35:28 PM
I'm curious to see if Tool waits so long to release a new album that it affects sales and interest in the band.  You know, like with GNR's Chinese Democracy.  I think Tool would sell well regardless of the amount of time that passes though.

The dismal sales of Chinese Democracy had nothing to do with how long it took to release and EVERYTHING to do with the fact that it was an Axl Rose solo album in disguise.    No one cared anymore because even if the legal entity "Guns n Roses" technically still existed, the band that everyone loved had broken up. 

With Tool, that is not the case.

Well Axl is a Tool and that didn't help sales.
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 15, 2015, 06:43:46 PM
http://www.nme.com/news/tool/83548
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: pain of occupation on March 15, 2015, 07:13:44 PM
I'm curious to see if Tool waits so long to release a new album that it affects sales and interest in the band.  You know, like with GNR's Chinese Democracy.  I think Tool would sell well regardless of the amount of time that passes though.

The dismal sales of Chinese Democracy had nothing to do with how long it took to release and EVERYTHING to do with the fact that it was an Axl Rose solo album in disguise.    No one cared anymore because even if the legal entity "Guns n Roses" technically still existed, the band that everyone loved had broken up. 

With Tool, that is not the case.

I cared. so did Curtis Holden aka SoCalledFriend.
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: jammindude on March 15, 2015, 08:39:53 PM
I'm curious to see if Tool waits so long to release a new album that it affects sales and interest in the band.  You know, like with GNR's Chinese Democracy.  I think Tool would sell well regardless of the amount of time that passes though.

The dismal sales of Chinese Democracy had nothing to do with how long it took to release and EVERYTHING to do with the fact that it was an Axl Rose solo album in disguise.    No one cared anymore because even if the legal entity "Guns n Roses" technically still existed, the band that everyone loved had broken up. 

With Tool, that is not the case.

I cared. so did Curtis Holden aka SoCalledFriend.

I didn't think I would need to clarify this but... I obviously didn't mean "no one" in the absolute sense.   I meant "no one" in general.   As in, near enough to no one to be effectively no one.     Sortof like .9 into infinity may not be technically 1, but it's effectively 1.     


But then again...why do I feel like I just opened a completely off topic mathematical "can of worms".   :rollin
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Post by: bout to crash on March 15, 2015, 11:43:37 PM
http://www.nme.com/news/tool/83548

(http://www.manteresting.com/sites/default/files/field/image/nail/2014/Aug/06/alright.jpg)

Alright alright alriiight
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: pain of occupation on March 16, 2015, 12:07:00 AM
I'm curious to see if Tool waits so long to release a new album that it affects sales and interest in the band.  You know, like with GNR's Chinese Democracy.  I think Tool would sell well regardless of the amount of time that passes though.

The dismal sales of Chinese Democracy had nothing to do with how long it took to release and EVERYTHING to do with the fact that it was an Axl Rose solo album in disguise.    No one cared anymore because even if the legal entity "Guns n Roses" technically still existed, the band that everyone loved had broken up. 

With Tool, that is not the case.

I cared. so did Curtis Holden aka SoCalledFriend.

I didn't think I would need to clarify this but... I obviously didn't mean "no one" in the absolute sense.   I meant "no one" in general.   As in, near enough to no one to be effectively no one.     Sortof like .9 into infinity may not be technically 1, but it's effectively 1.     


But then again...why do I feel like I just opened a completely off topic mathematical "can of worms".   :rollin

 :)
I know, man. not sure why I felt the need to chime in.
guess I just get excited when I see Chinese Democ mentioned. probs subconsciously feel the need to make sure its known I groove on that isht.
not that anyone here gives a rat's ass what I think.

as for Tool, I don't mean to be negative, but the legal issues feel like a poor excuse. (scooter accidents is another story).
I always harken back to J.C. figuring they'd only take 3 years to put out another one 'this time around' in an interview circa the release of 10000 Days. so much for that pipe dream.
to clarify, my pipe dream, not J.C.'s. ...well, possibly his too.
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Post by: bout to crash on March 16, 2015, 08:39:14 AM
Well, I think unless you know all the details it's unfair to say it's a poor excuse. I've fortunately never been involved in any litigation, but I've heard that it can be pretty exhausting and horrible. Also, considering the nature of the legal issues I don't blame them for wanting it to be sorted before releasing new material.
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Post by: Mebert78 on March 16, 2015, 09:18:33 AM
Link: http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/tool-settles-legal-issues-resumes-work-on-new-music/

Quote
TOOL Settles Legal Issues, Resumes Work On New Music

TOOL has settled the "multi-level lawsuit" that started in 2007 when a friend of the band claimed that he had created artwork for the group and wanted credit for it. Then an insurance company that TOOL had hired for the sole purpose of defending the band against lawsuits turned around and sued the band over technicalities regarding the case. The band countersued the insurer, with the case finally being resolved in their favor after seven years.

"It got really ugly and shameful," TOOL guitarist Adam Jones told Yahoo! Music. "This is a real simplification of the matter ó but imagine paying auto insurance, getting into a wreck, and expecting the insurance company to cover you. And they come back to you and say, 'Well, you drive an SUV and we don't consider that an auto so we're not going to cover you.' And then they turn around and sue you because you want them to cover you. It's crazy."

Jones also revealed that one of his bandmates was forced to deal with a medical issue, which further impeded TOOL's progress in crafting material for a new studio album,

"I'd rather let the person who dealt with the illness talk about it out of respect," Jones told Yahoo! Music

image: http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/icon1.png
. "But one thing was a really scary do-or-die, serious illness and that was really scary. When you're trying to write music and you have that eating away at you ó this person you're married to and you love and hate at the same time has something they're dealing with that's out of their control ó it's distracting."

According to Adam, the instrumental members of TOOL ó Jones, bassist Justin Chancellor and drummer Danny Carey ó have finished writing one as-yet-untitled song for the band's upcoming album, with more than 10 other tracks in various stages of completion.

"Our greatest strength is jamming and coming up with stuff," Jones said. ďWe're doing that really well now and I'm excited about everything we're working on. Some of it's really heavy, some of it's complex and some is more atmospheric, but it's definitely TOOL. I think having this lawsuit out of the way should really speed of the progress of getting the album done."

Although Jones hopes the next TOOL album will be finished and ready for release before the end of the year, there is no deadline by which the band has to deliver the follow-up to 2006's "10,000 Days".

"We're older guys now," he told Yahoo! Music. "Everyone kind of has their own life, and the fire that burned in us when we were in our 20s isn't there anymore. There's still a fire, it's just a different kind of fire. So of course, we're writing and working hard, but we've gotten to a point where we're relaxed and we're meeting occasionally to get the writing done instead of every day. But I feel like every day we work on the songs is a productive day and we're getting closer and closer to finishing them."
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Post by: Mebert78 on March 16, 2015, 12:27:52 PM
Just saw this on Facebook:

(http://i.imgur.com/LaDgLb2.jpg)
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on March 16, 2015, 12:32:59 PM
Brilliant.  :lol
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Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on March 16, 2015, 01:09:07 PM
 :rollin
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Post by: senecadawg2 on March 16, 2015, 05:40:22 PM
That's my favorite Tool-related meme I've seen, and there are a lot of good ones  :lol


Gah Lateralus is soo good. I only very rarely listen to it these days, but I'd be hard pressed to find 5 albums that I think are better.
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Post by: bout to crash on March 16, 2015, 08:59:37 PM
 :lol, that's awesome!
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 17, 2015, 06:42:18 AM
I saw that pic ( it's not a meme ) on the Metallica forum ages ago :p
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 17, 2015, 08:42:12 AM
Just saw this on Facebook:

(http://i.imgur.com/LaDgLb2.jpg)
Glorious.
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Post by: pain of occupation on March 17, 2015, 10:37:36 PM
Well, I think unless you know all the details it's unfair to say it's a poor excuse. I've fortunately never been involved in any litigation, but I've heard that it can be pretty exhausting and horrible. Also, considering the nature of the legal issues I don't blame them for wanting it to be sorted before releasing new material.

Okay, so even if they wanted the issues resolved before releasing new material, sure whatever, that's fine and dandy...but they coulda had 3+ albums written/recorded in the meantime.
That being said, I s'pose health issues and a lessened desire are a legit excuse for not writing.
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Post by: bout to crash on March 17, 2015, 11:19:41 PM
Honestly, whatever the fuck they use as an excuse is legit because the band is not obligated to write new material. I'm not sure why some people seem to think they're owed an album.
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Post by: Plasmastrike on March 18, 2015, 07:55:42 AM
Exactly my sentiments as well. They've got other interests and pulls in life.
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Post by: Fiery Winds on March 18, 2015, 12:11:36 PM
Yup. Sometimes you just don't have the drive to create, and I'd rather wait 10 years for a great album that they're proud of than get 1-2 half-assed albums.
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Post by: pain of occupation on March 22, 2015, 03:58:47 PM
I can see how it can be taken that way, but don't lump me in with the fans that feel like they're owed another album. For as much as I've been into the band (especially back in the day), I'm perfectly fine with never getting another album out of them...Ive got more than enough bands I'm into to satiate my hunger for new tuneage.

I DO, however, feel like I'm owed a new Volto! record...and a new Fusion Syndicate album with Chancellor playing on one song.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 23, 2015, 07:44:55 AM
Honestly, whatever the fuck they use as an excuse is legit because the band is not obligated to write new material. I'm not sure why some people seem to think they're owed an album.
I agree with this wholeheartedly.

But having said that, if their excuse for not releasing a new album in a century was their legal proceedings, not sure why they haven't been a little more productive in at least writing during that time, so a new album could drop relatively soon after the end of those proceedings.

None of my business, I just don't get it.  But I don't have to get it.
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 25, 2015, 10:30:54 AM
I know for me - if i'm having a bad time in my personal life - I sure don't want to sit down with a guitar and create.

In fact i'd rather do anything else.
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Post by: Jaq on March 25, 2015, 10:46:43 AM
Honestly, whatever the fuck they use as an excuse is legit because the band is not obligated to write new material. I'm not sure why some people seem to think they're owed an album.

Reminds me of Neil Gaiman telling people complaining about George RR Martin's work habits that "George Martin is not your bitch."  :lol
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 25, 2015, 11:25:33 AM
Honestly, whatever the fuck they use as an excuse is legit because the band is not obligated to write new material. I'm not sure why some people seem to think they're owed an album.

Reminds me of Neil Gaiman telling people complaining about George RR Martin's work habits that "George Martin is not your bitch."  :lol
Yeah, but sometimes I think that Martin is slow just to be slow.  He gets slower all the time.
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Post by: Fluffy Lothario on March 25, 2015, 11:55:48 AM
On the topic of GoT:

About six or seven years ago, I read accounts online of this great new fantasy that was redefining the genre, basically the biggest step away from established stereotypes and tropes since it had been settled in LOTR.

Though overjoyed, I looked it up and saw it was four books out of seven complete. Iím a pretty slow reader, so I decided then to wait until the series was finished, or at least the last book had been announced, before I started reading. (Otherwise, what would probably have happened was Iíd finish the first four, then when the final three were written, Iíd have forgotten so much that Iíd have to go back and re-read before I could continue, but because Iím so slow, I wouldnít have the patience to retread thousands of pages, and Iíd just never finish it).

Iíve now been desperately avoiding GoT spoilers for seven long years - and because of the TV show, there are spoilers EVERYWHERE. And my wait might not even be half over yet.

Before you ask why I donít just watch the TV show: Iím a snob and like my literature and refuse to let my reading experience be tainted by watching a shitty watered down adaptation.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on March 25, 2015, 02:01:23 PM
I know for me - if i'm having a bad time in my personal life - I sure don't want to sit down with a guitar and create.

In fact i'd rather do anything else.

I'm like the total opposite. When everything is awful, that's like really the only time I can write. I guess its an art from adversity thing for me. At the very least, then's when my best stuff comes out, when I just need to vent through an instrument.

But I definitely understand what you mean though.

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Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 25, 2015, 02:24:42 PM
Before you ask why I donít just watch the TV show: Iím a snob and like my literature and refuse to let my reading experience be tainted by watching a shitty watered down adaptation.
BTW, it's not shitty or watered down.
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Post by: bout to crash on March 25, 2015, 06:56:34 PM
Honestly, whatever the fuck they use as an excuse is legit because the band is not obligated to write new material. I'm not sure why some people seem to think they're owed an album.

Reminds me of Neil Gaiman telling people complaining about George RR Martin's work habits that "George Martin is not your bitch."  :lol

 :lol, awesome.

Btw, it took me a full thirty seconds or so to figure out wtf Fluffy was talking about. I'm kind of... out of the loop with popular shit these days.
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Post by: Jamesman42 on March 25, 2015, 06:57:58 PM
I think it gets frustrating about a new album because they don't seem to say "don't hold your breath." Almost feels like a carrot being dangled.

At least with SOAD, they tell us straight up they aren't making an album any time soon (although I heard today they've written some new songs together).
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Post by: Fluffy Lothario on March 25, 2015, 07:09:07 PM
Before you ask why I donít just watch the TV show: Iím a snob and like my literature and refuse to let my reading experience be tainted by watching a shitty watered down adaptation.
BTW, it's not shitty or watered down.
I mean comparatively. If I asked which is better, book or TV show, I can almost guarantee what the answer will be, because itís what the answer is 99% of the time. Other than in rare cases, Iím not interested in reading the book AND seeing the movie. If I enjoyed or am apparently going to enjoy a book, I generally donít even want to know about its TV/film remake, because I donít want what someone else saw in the story to define how I experience it.
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Post by: jammindude on September 23, 2015, 06:17:31 PM
I don't think you can still say that there is *NO* news.   It seems like something is happening.

From their official Facebook Page:

TOOL VIP EVENT
Thank you for your attention concerning an important announcement from TOOL. For those of you who are planning to go to the MONSTER MASH MUSIC FESTIVAL in Tempe on Halloween, there will be a TOOL VIP EVENT* that includes a Q&A session with some MEMBERS OF THE BAND that will be held in PHOENIX, ARIZONA on FRIDAY, OCTOBER 30th. The exact time and location for this special event is still to be determined, and those who are interested should check back with the TOOL WEBSITE or TOOL FACEBOOK PAGE on WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 30th for the OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT. Tickets for the VIP EVENT go on sale on FRIDAY, OCTOBER 9th - AVAILABLE at the TOOLBAND.COM WEBSTORE. Again, please check back with the band's website and Facebook page on WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 30th for the official announcement.
*Please note that this special event involving TOOL is not a performance.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 24, 2015, 07:23:43 AM
Doesn't look like anything important.  Just cashing a check to answer some questions.
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Post by: TioJorge on September 24, 2015, 11:28:17 AM
Not that I was ever a diehard fan to begin with, though I do love some of their songs, but I'm treating Tool like I would ordering an item from overseas. Order it, forget about it, and it'll get here when it gets here. (...and then call UPS bitching them out and asking where the fuck my item is  :lol )
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Post by: goo-goo on September 24, 2015, 05:15:04 PM
I'm surprised Tool decided to do this Q&A thing. Maybe it could be a special listening session?
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Post by: Zook on September 24, 2015, 05:29:55 PM
I wonder if Maynard will be hiding in the back with a microphone.
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Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2015, 09:21:08 PM
A Q&A seems funny when every single question will be "when the fuck is an album coming out?"  :lol
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Post by: Kotowboy on September 25, 2015, 02:11:35 AM
I hope they sell 1 ticket and that guy only asks that question then leaves.
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Post by: TioJorge on September 25, 2015, 02:25:16 AM
I don't know why but with the way you phrased that...I pictured the dude asking it and then leaving before even getting an answer.  :lol
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 25, 2015, 03:20:48 AM
They probably start by saying that they won't answer questions about a new album and then there is an hour of awkward silence.

Or maybe they announce, that next year is the 10th anniversary of not doing anything and they want to celebrate it by not releasing an album?
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 25, 2015, 07:30:09 AM
A Q&A seems funny when every single question will be "when the fuck is an album coming out?"  :lol
:tup
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Post by: Kotowboy on September 25, 2015, 07:31:57 AM
Spoiler : Either the album is out Next May - making it ten years since 10,000 days GEDDIT ITS A TOOL "JOKE"

Or there's a new tour or they're breaking up.
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Post by: NotePad on October 03, 2015, 10:25:25 AM
Yea....I don't think the next Tool album will be coming out anytime soon. someday, but not soon.
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Post by: LCArenas on October 04, 2015, 11:06:28 PM
I guess they are literally releasing it on September 17, 2033.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 13, 2017, 01:40:21 AM
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Tom Morello on instagram:

Had the honor of being the first outsider to hear new #TOOL music today!! Still just instrumentals but sounded epic, majestic, symphonic, brutal, beautiful, tribal, mysterious, deep, sexy and VERY Tool. Really great. So excited to hear the record when it's finished.
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Post by: wolfking on December 13, 2017, 04:10:51 AM
Read an article that Danny said the album WILL be out sometime in 2018.
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Post by: ReaperKK on December 13, 2017, 04:45:12 AM
:lol
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Post by: Zydar on December 13, 2017, 04:52:36 AM
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/new_tool_album_is_definitely_coming_out_in_2018_according_to_danny_carey.html
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Post by: ReaperKK on December 13, 2017, 05:14:12 AM
Who knows, it may happen. I didn't think APC was going to ever release anything.
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Post by: devieira73 on December 14, 2017, 03:40:57 AM
Tool and Mastodon related, did you heard about this band/project? It seems interesting:
https://legendoftheseagullmen.bandcamp.com/
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Post by: ReaperKK on December 14, 2017, 04:54:23 AM
That sounds like one hell of a group, I'll check it out later today
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Post by: Ninjabait on December 14, 2017, 07:19:25 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/ak55JOj.gif)

No, but seriously, I'm super excited about the possibility of there finally being a new Tool album (& APC). Hopefully this goes better than all the other release dates so far. The new Tool album is starting to head the way of Book of Revelation doomsday theories and the Artemis Fowl movie (been waiting 17 years for that one! SEVENTEEN YEARS) with all these supposed release dates. I also hope that the band finally releases their music digitally with this new album, since times are a-changin' and streaming is pretty much the de-facto way of listening to music now.

Tool and Mastodon related, did you heard about this band/project? It seems interesting:
https://legendoftheseagullmen.bandcamp.com/

Shipswreck sounds like it would be a blast to play on Rock Band. Not a fan of the effects on the vocals, but everything else is really great (Especially that first solo. Mmmm yes). I'll definitely check this out when it drops in February.
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Post by: devieira73 on December 14, 2017, 09:57:19 AM
I think this album will be really diverse:
https://youtu.be/eUBPflO8EkE
Almost Quentin Tarantino
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Post by: Ninjabait on December 14, 2017, 10:15:19 AM
That sounds pretty great actually. I think I like it a little bit more than Shipswreck. Sounds like a mix of Nightwish - The Islander, Pirates of the Caribbean, Gothic Country, and Spaghetti Western.

Also, reading the description for that video, I learned that the director of Horton Hears a Who is the producer for the album. That would NOT have been my first guess. :lol
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on December 14, 2017, 11:04:40 AM
That is....Some damn fine music there. The concept is great. Its like Primus Pirate music set in the world of Dr. Seuss.
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Post by: Fritzinger on January 06, 2018, 03:32:53 AM
I hope I'm not getting anyone's hopes up by revitalizing this thread (although most fans probably have given up on a new album by this band just as Peter Gabriel fans have lol).

I have known Tool since around one year after the time I got into DT, which was 2007. I always found them fascinating, the whole mysterious character they had, the fantastic cover artwork and the fact that they made Prog Metal MTV-accessible. Plus, Vicarious always had a special place in my heart. But it took 10 years to rererererediscover them and now I feel like I FINALLY begin to really appreciate them.

I picked up the vinyl re-releases of Opiate and Undertow and liked the rough, garage-like character they have. But I like 10.000 Days better, with its more "progressive" and complex attitude. I know Aenima from the 4-5 times I listened to it. Lateralus seems to be somewhat their "best" album (?) and I have "saved" it for last (haven't really heard it yet apart from one or two songs). I bought the new vinyl version of Lateralus (amazing artwork, as per usual) and even found a Aenima vinyl in almost perfect condition (no idea how I managed to do this, considering the discogs prices https://www.discogs.com/de/sell/list?ev=mb&master_id=1402&format=Vinyl). I'm very much looking forward to listening to these two album tomorrow when I get home. I even found their first demo and the Salival EP on vinyl in a tiny record shop in Dresden.

What does everyone think about the albums Aenima and Lateralus? Did it take you guys so much time to get into Tool too?
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Post by: Podaar on January 06, 2018, 04:06:29 AM
I didn't take me long at all. There was a six month period after AEnima came out that I could listen to nothing else. I still think Eulogy is as near to perfect as a composition can get. I still get a chill whenever I hear, "He had a lot to say, he had a lot of nothing to say, we'll miss him." Damn, just so brilliant. I love that this album spans the gap between their more conventional heavy rock sound and the full on acid rock of Lateralus and 10,000 days. I would also love to know what the catalyst was for the over use of profanity on this album. It doesn't seem to be a priority in the lyrics of other albums, but AEnima is stuffed to the gills.

I really like Lateralus. It's a weird mix of ambition and self-deprecation--I guess that could probably be said about anything Keenan is involved with--but this album is perhaps a bit too unsure of itself. Not near as accessible as their previous offerings, for sure. Still, a lot to love here, the run of songs from Schism through Lateralus is absolutely hypnotizing and essential prog in my view.
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Post by: Spiritus on January 06, 2018, 04:29:03 AM
Hilarious to read the first post. The hope of a new Tool album some 3 years after 10000 days. How naive we all were lol. And here we are some 4000 days later still waiting
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Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on January 06, 2018, 10:39:36 AM
Lateralus is a work of art. One of the greatest albums of all time.
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Post by: Ninjabait on January 06, 2018, 12:49:40 PM
Hilarious to read the first post. The hope of a new Tool album some 3 years after 10000 days. How naive we all were lol. And here we are some 4000 days later still waiting

But they already secretly told us the release date for the new album. 10,000 Days was a not-so cryptic hint: The album will be released on September 12th, 2033. 10,000 Days after 10,000 Days. Just 15 years left!
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Post by: Puppies_On_Acid on January 06, 2018, 12:51:46 PM
The first time I heard Tool, I believe it was the song Sober that came on the radio. I remember thinking that it sounded pretty cool, so I bought the album on a whim along with their album Aenima which had just come out. They quickly became one of my favorite bands. Lateralus is my number 3 favorite album of all time, just behind Marbles by Marillion and Verisakeet by Moonsorrow.
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Post by: bout to crash on January 06, 2018, 01:57:27 PM
Aenima was my first album, though I had heard some earlier stuff at that point too. I spent a LOT of time watching MTV as a kid so I remember seeing the video for Stinkfist and being like  :o and then I think I got the album shortly after that, when I was 11 or 12. My favorite radio station at the time used to play them a lot, but because it was a Catholic college (Seton Hall's pirate radio! 89.5 WSOU!) they had to censor a lot of band and song names. They played "H with a P" a lot :lol
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Post by: Stadler on January 06, 2018, 04:00:21 PM
I've had a nightmare from music only once in my life, and it was the night that I saw the Sober video for the first time.   The only other song that ever "scared" me in any way was listening to "Orgasmatron" one night in CT by myself with the lights off and after a couple glasses of wine. 
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Post by: bout to crash on January 07, 2018, 02:39:35 AM
I've had a nightmare from music only once in my life, and it was the night that I saw the Sober video for the first time.   The only other song that ever "scared" me in any way was listening to "Orgasmatron" one night in CT by myself with the lights off and after a couple glasses of wine. 

:lol
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on January 07, 2018, 08:38:48 AM
I've been on the Tool train since Sober first broke. The video was awesome.

In terms of Lateralus, count me in as another that considers it their best. Saw them on that tour and I have the album on vinyl as well.

I saw them again when they came through Chicago in 2017 and it was an amazing show. Easily, one of the best shows I've ever seen. Blew away the show from the Lateralus tour.
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Post by: Stadler on January 07, 2018, 08:53:49 AM
I've had a nightmare from music only once in my life, and it was the night that I saw the Sober video for the first time.   The only other song that ever "scared" me in any way was listening to "Orgasmatron" one night in CT by myself with the lights off and after a couple glasses of wine. 

:lol

My story is even more lame in the context of your Zeppelin share.  :).
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Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on January 07, 2018, 10:52:44 AM
I've been on the Tool train since Sober first broke. The video was awesome.

In terms of Lateralus, count me in as another that considers it their best. Saw them on that tour and I have the album on vinyl as well.

I saw them again when they came through Chicago in 2017 and it was an amazing show. Easily, one of the best shows I've ever seen. Blew away the show from the Lateralus tour.

I was at that show too, it was outstanding. Only other time I saw them was the 10,000 Days tour at the same arena. Can't decide which show I liked more.
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Post by: Ninjabait on January 19, 2018, 07:13:19 AM
Per a live stream on Adam Jones' Instagram: "Music is done. Lyrics coming in hard" (https://i.redd.it/wtt2t5dvvya01.jpg).

Also, Danny Carey said that they're hoping to get the new album out before May 2018 (http://www.overdrive.ie/interview-long-people-want-hear-music-well-keep-making-danny-carey-toollegend-seagullmen/),  right before their headlining spot at Coachella.

So...it looks like this might finally be happening.
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Post by: Polarbear on January 19, 2018, 07:44:05 AM
Per a live stream on Adam Jones' Instagram: "Music is done. Lyrics coming in hard" (https://i.redd.it/wtt2t5dvvya01.jpg).

Also, Danny Carey said that they're hoping to get the new album out before May 2018 (http://www.overdrive.ie/interview-long-people-want-hear-music-well-keep-making-danny-carey-toollegend-seagullmen/),  right before their headlining spot at Coachella.

So...it looks like this might finally be happening.

I'll believe it when i see it...
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Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on January 19, 2018, 07:50:25 AM
I read from blabbermouth yesterday that they havenít started recording yet. If thatís the case, we will not have it by May. Fall is more likely.
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Post by: Puppies_On_Acid on January 19, 2018, 09:07:11 AM
I predict that once they go in to record, they realize what they have written is not up to their "standards" and scrap the whole thing and start over. I expect the album in 2050, just in time for me to enjoy it in my retirement...
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Post by: ReaperKK on January 19, 2018, 05:43:33 PM
Adam Jones is probably still playing around with the same 4 bar riff for the past 5 years.
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Post by: jammindude on March 10, 2018, 09:04:48 PM
This was just posted to their Facebook page an hour ago.   Take it or leave it....

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TOOL RECORDING NEWS!

Whoís ready for some major breaking news? Brace yourself; get readyÖ okay, here we go. We are very excited to announce what is sure to be welcome news for both fans of TOOL and prog-metal enthusiasts in general. After all the years of writing and arranging (and re-arranging) at the bandís loft, I can at this time officially report that the guys have moved into a major studio where the recording process for the next album is about to begin in earnest. For the past few days the band members have been getting sonically adjusted to their new surroundings - dialing in the equipment settings and restaurant catering choices - in preparation for Danny to begin his tracking any time now Ė perhaps by the time that you read this!

I am also excited to announce that Ďevilí JOE BARRESI will once again have his capable fingers at the engineering controls for what will certainly be another masterful TOOL offering by the talented team. Pinch yourself if you want, but I have been told that all systems are GO at this point for the upcoming sessions.

I will be posting periodic bits and pieces on the progress of the tracking once the guys get deeper into the recording process, and hope that all of you will keep checking back to the official website for these updates. In the meantime, be sure to also visit the individual band membersí sites and socials (Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, etc.) for more inside glimpses as TOOL prepares for the next stage in their musical odyssey.
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Post by: Parama on March 10, 2018, 09:09:06 PM
so, 3 years of recording, 2 years of mastering, and a 5 year promotion cycle before they release the first single, i'm excited
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Post by: Bolsters on March 10, 2018, 09:48:29 PM
so, 3 years of recording, 2 years of mastering, and a 5 year promotion cycle before they release the first single, i'm excited
Someone's optimistic.
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Post by: TioJorge on March 10, 2018, 11:27:41 PM
Honestly....

















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Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on March 11, 2018, 12:00:24 AM
I genuinely believe weíll have it by the fall if this news is legit. Seriously this time!
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Post by: Fritzinger on March 11, 2018, 05:50:18 AM
I put on 10.000 Days after this news, and now I am excited! Let's see who will finish first: Me with graduation from college or Tool with their new album (I started last semester)
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Post by: Polarbear on March 11, 2018, 07:22:43 AM
Once again, I'll believe it when I see it!

But really, they have to come out with guns blazing with this new album, in order for the Tool fans to forgive them for sitting on their asses for years and doing nothing.

This could be their best album, and I don't think it will be enough for some fans.

Me? If this is indeed the real thing now, I'll be interested to hear it.
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Post by: ReaperKK on March 11, 2018, 07:26:13 AM
Like everyone else has stated, I'll believe it when I have it in my hand and have listened to it at least twice
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Post by: Phoenix87x on March 11, 2018, 10:02:03 AM
I put on 10.000 Days after this news, and now I am excited! Let's see who will finish first: Me with graduation from college or Tool with their new album (I started last semester)

I put that challenge to them as well. 10,000 days came out my senior year of high school. I just graduated college last May, so I was able to beat em. One bachelors degree, one doctorate degree and a few years of goofing around with multiple different majors, but I beat em man  :lol
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on March 11, 2018, 10:13:24 AM
Check out Adam's Instagram. He posted a Day 1 photo in the studio and his most recent pic is him and Joe Barresi in the studio.

Seems pretty legit to me.

Day 1 - https://www.instagram.com/p/Bf-DyGrnt74/?hl=en&taken-by=adamjones_tv

Adam and Joe - https://www.instagram.com/p/BgDIF0UnFRQ/?taken-by=adamjones_tv
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Post by: TioJorge on March 11, 2018, 12:04:15 PM
It's kinda sad it's gotten to this point but with how much bullshit that has been fed to us and how much back and forth they've done, they could post a video of them playing a new song in the studio and say "Second to last song almost done!" and I'd still not care until it's on my devices waiting to be played.  :lol Seriously, even if they are actually recording and actually doing everything to make the album, it wouldn't surprise me one single bit now if they posted something else after all this saying "Issues with mastering, please look forward to hearing the album sometime in 2019 most likely".
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on March 11, 2018, 12:13:02 PM
And MP thought DT fans were so demanding....haha.

I honestly don't even bother with Tool and their time to make albums. Based off their output since 10,000 Days. How long it took for that album.

But I'm they have gone and said they've had some Legal troubles (who knows what that could be) that delayed them from actually making music. Their priority was in dealing with that situation first. Sadly those also do take time.

So its not like they were sitting on their asses. Plus, Maynard did puscifer, Adam likely was doing art stuff for movies.
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Post by: TioJorge on March 11, 2018, 01:43:50 PM
Oh, I'm a very casual fan; even in their heyday I wasn't a huge one, and now it's dwindled to "I'll listen to my favorite song of theirs twice a year". And I'm not "demanding" anything; I just find it funny, that's all. There's a line where the media marketing and the updates go from "Thanks for the update" to "Shut the fuck up until there's some actual evidence of something...anything". The circumstances surrounding the band and the album are now the news, not the music itself, which for me has taken a hard back seat in the nosebleeds. I'll definitely be interested when the music does eventually release but till then it's just fun and games.
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Post by: ReaperKK on March 11, 2018, 02:27:37 PM
I think the main issue I had with Tool was if they didn't want to do an album they should've not brought making an album until they are. If they don't want to make an album and hang out and do other stuff fine, just don't mention that you're going to be recording a couple of times a year and never do.
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Post by: TioJorge on March 11, 2018, 03:31:41 PM
Right, it's more of a principal issue than me actually giving a shit whether they release music or not.

Granted, it's a fantastic way to stay relevant. But sadly, only because there's still so many fans that are baited and still love to band. On the other side of that same coin, I'm sure they've lost a decent amount of quasi-fans that would have still bought the album but have long since moved on thanks to the reign of inaccurate or outright fake updates (whether it's their own fault or not).

I'm in the camp that couldn't care less if they ever release music but will check it out if it ever does happen. What's good about my own thoughts on the band is that I have quite literally no expectations at all, so unless it's just laughably bad even as a standalone album, outside of comparisons, then I'm sure I'll enjoy it. But again, till the actual thing is out, this is just a class in "how to stay relevant when you've done nothing at all for years". Works like a charm, too.
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Post by: Fritzinger on March 11, 2018, 05:15:57 PM
I put on 10.000 Days after this news, and now I am excited! Let's see who will finish first: Me with graduation from college or Tool with their new album (I started last semester)

I put that challenge to them as well. 10,000 days came out my senior year of high school. I just graduated college last May, so I was able to beat em. One bachelors degree, one doctorate degree and a few years of goofing around with multiple different majors, but I beat em man  :lol

Since 10.000 Days came out I changed school once, lived a year in Cordoba, Argentina, finished high school, started studying music, finished studying music, lived half a year in Utrecht, Netherlands and then moved to Austria to start new studies in a new field and changed my whole lifestyle  :rollin
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Post by: Samsara on March 13, 2018, 01:43:20 PM
Here's some perspective. I went from being in my 20s when 10,000 Days was released...to now being into my 40s.  :lol
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on March 13, 2018, 02:24:23 PM
Here's some perspective. I went from being in my 20s when 10,000 Days was released...to now being into my 40s.  :lol

Wow. Same here. That's crazy.
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Post by: goo-goo on March 13, 2018, 02:24:55 PM
Shit. 10,000 Days was released in 2006. I've graduated Grad School (~25 yrs old), moved twice, got married, I'll be 36 in a couple of weeks...clock keeps ticking.
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Post by: Samsara on March 13, 2018, 03:38:10 PM
Here's some perspective. I went from being in my 20s when 10,000 Days was released...to now being into my 40s.  :lol

Wow. Same here. That's crazy.

Nuts, right? ha ha ha. I hope TOOL has evolved a bit, musically, honestly. I really enjoyed their entire catalog, but I honestly sort of identify them with that time period. Twenty years ago. A lot of bands have really taken TOOL's sound and expanded on it while they've not made a record. So it'll be interesting to see if they've continued to evolve, or if they'll just tread familiar ground.
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on March 13, 2018, 04:00:20 PM
Here's some perspective. I went from being in my 20s when 10,000 Days was released...to now being into my 40s.  :lol

Wow. Same here. That's crazy.

Nuts, right? ha ha ha. I hope TOOL has evolved a bit, musically, honestly. I really enjoyed their entire catalog, but I honestly sort of identify them with that time period. Twenty years ago. A lot of bands have really taken TOOL's sound and expanded on it while they've not made a record. So it'll be interesting to see if they've continued to evolve, or if they'll just tread familiar ground.

Yeah. I bet it'll sound like Soen's latest.  ;D

First record was a Tool clone and they evolved with each subsequent record.

Honestly, I wouldn't complain one bit if it sounded like Lykaia. Doubt it will.
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Post by: Fritzinger on March 14, 2018, 06:53:52 AM
So you guys wanna do the same with the time since Peter Gabriel released an album of original music?  :lol
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Post by: goo-goo on March 14, 2018, 08:40:40 AM
Here's some perspective. I went from being in my 20s when 10,000 Days was released...to now being into my 40s.  :lol

Wow. Same here. That's crazy.

Nuts, right? ha ha ha. I hope TOOL has evolved a bit, musically, honestly. I really enjoyed their entire catalog, but I honestly sort of identify them with that time period. Twenty years ago. A lot of bands have really taken TOOL's sound and expanded on it while they've not made a record. So it'll be interesting to see if they've continued to evolve, or if they'll just tread familiar ground.

Yeah. I bet it'll sound like Soen's latest.  ;D

First record was a Tool clone and they evolved with each subsequent record.

Honestly, I wouldn't complain one bit if it sounded like Lykaia. Doubt it will.

I need to check their last record out. I've been hearing great things about it, but just never got to it.
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Post by: romdrums on March 14, 2018, 10:04:14 AM
So you guys wanna do the same with the time since Peter Gabriel released an album of original music?  :lol

If I had a child born that year they'd be driving by now.
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Post by: El Barto on March 14, 2018, 10:14:59 AM
But really, they have to come out with guns blazing with this new album, in order for the Tool fans to forgive them for sitting on their asses for years and doing nothing.
Nah. Those guys don't owe me anything. Hell, half of us aren't even going to pay for it anyway.

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This could be their best album, and I don't think it will be enough for some fans.
This is certainly true. But then some fans are just dicks.
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Post by: Nekov on April 19, 2018, 02:10:41 PM
Hey guys, I thought this was the best place to post this. There's a new album called Legend of the Seagullmen that includes Danny Carey and Brent Hinds from Mastodon. I listened to it the other day and it's interesting. Thought some of you might want to check it out.
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 19, 2018, 02:35:34 PM
Hey guys, I thought this was the best place to post this. There's a new album called Legend of the Seagullmen that includes Danny Carey and Brent Hinds from Mastodon. I listened to it the other day and it's interesting. Thought some of you might want to check it out.

I spaced this out. Didn't know it was out already.
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Post by: jammindude on April 26, 2018, 09:00:54 PM
THE WAIT IS OVER!!!!!

No date yet.....and this is not a full song, heck it's really only a teaser....but THERE IS NEW MUSIC FROM TOOL!!!!!!

https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/04/tool-debut-new-music-in-tour-promo-video/
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Post by: Puppies_On_Acid on April 26, 2018, 10:13:35 PM
THE WAIT IS OVER!!!!!

No date yet.....and this is not a full song, heck it's really only a teaser....but THERE IS NEW MUSIC FROM TOOL!!!!!!

https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/04/tool-debut-new-music-in-tour-promo-video/
I wouldn't call this new music. This song has been floating around for a few years now. They've been playing it in concert. And something tells me this won't be on the new album either.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on April 27, 2018, 10:35:28 AM
I hope that's not on the album, cause that sounds like them just dicking around. That doesn't sound like a song that took years to meticulously put together.
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Post by: Elite on April 27, 2018, 10:55:04 AM
Yup to both
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Post by: TioJorge on April 27, 2018, 12:03:14 PM
I was gonna say...pretty sure I'd heard that before.

Them releasing that as a teaser does not bode well for my non-existent expectations.  :lol

"Here is a song we've been playing live and have had in the works for a while but are now releasing as a teaser because we have nothing else" is what that says to me. Why...would you release a song you've played more than a few times and that has been in the media already for an album that has only gotten *Insert Semi Famous Person* says new Tool album is "totally radtacular". Seems, at the very least, a poor choice; at worst, speaks to their lack of faith in their own work (or lack thereof). I'd think they'd want to release snippits of a the album itself...like most bands do when a new album is in the works.

Į\_(ツ)_/Į
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Post by: jammindude on April 27, 2018, 12:17:57 PM
 I guess Iím late to the party. I had not heard this song. But the other glimmer of hope I got from that article is that Maynard has actually written the lyrics and the melodies. So now itís just a matter of properly recording the demos and recording the vocals. At this point, I do sincerely believe that we will have a new Tool album within the year.
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Post by: goo-goo on April 27, 2018, 12:36:08 PM
I guess Iím late to the party. I had not heard this song. But the other glimmer of hope I got from that article is that Maynard has actually written the lyrics and the melodies. So now itís just a matter of properly recording the demos and recording the vocals. At this point, I do sincerely believe that we will have a new Tool album within the year.

They could possibly wrap up the recording before they head out for that clinic tour they are doing.
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Post by: Puppies_On_Acid on April 27, 2018, 03:28:32 PM
I guess Iím late to the party. I had not heard this song. But the other glimmer of hope I got from that article is that Maynard has actually written the lyrics and the melodies. So now itís just a matter of properly recording the demos and recording the vocals. At this point, I do sincerely believe that we will have a new Tool album within the year.
The problem with that is he has said things like this before over the last 3 or 4 years...
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Post by: Peter Mc on April 27, 2018, 07:24:40 PM
I canít recall anything remotely as concrete as whatís been coming out recently confirming that they are actually in the studio recording the new album. I therefore choose to be optimistic and would take Tool ďdicking aroundĒ with MJKís incredible vocals over the top of it above most bands I listen to.

The new A Perfect Circle album is not perfect but the joy of hearing MJK sing for the first time in so many years (Iíve never really tried Puscifer) makes it eminently listenable to me. Tool will be another level again.
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Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on May 14, 2018, 09:18:41 AM
Every track will be at least 10 minutes?? So either there will only be 6 or 7 tracks, or itíll be a double album!

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/tool-members-hold-their-first-music-clinic/
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Post by: ReaperKK on May 14, 2018, 08:55:07 PM
I really wish I could attend one of these clinics, and I really don't want my heart broken, I want this album to come out soon.
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Post by: Parama on May 14, 2018, 09:01:08 PM
Every track will be at least 10 minutes?? So either there will only be 6 or 7 tracks, or itíll be a double album!

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/tool-members-hold-their-first-music-clinic/
reminds me of that rumor a few years back that said every track would be over 20 minutes and it'd be double album :V

not holding my breath
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Post by: Puppies_On_Acid on May 14, 2018, 09:06:10 PM
Every track will be at least 10 minutes?? So either there will only be 6 or 7 tracks, or itíll be a double album!

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/tool-members-hold-their-first-music-clinic/
All I see in this article is the last line. "will arrive either later in 2018 or early next year." So basically never... ::)
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Post by: RoeDent on May 17, 2018, 02:20:44 PM
https://www.loudersound.com/news/maynard-calls-on-tool-bandmates-to-finish-new-album (https://www.loudersound.com/news/maynard-calls-on-tool-bandmates-to-finish-new-album)

This band are an absolute joke...
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Post by: Nekov on May 17, 2018, 02:44:56 PM
https://www.loudersound.com/news/maynard-calls-on-tool-bandmates-to-finish-new-album (https://www.loudersound.com/news/maynard-calls-on-tool-bandmates-to-finish-new-album)

This band are an absolute joke...

I saw that this morning. Any minimal amount of hope we had should vanish now
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Post by: SystematicThought on May 17, 2018, 07:40:29 PM
I didnít really think it had any impact on my thinking towards release. It seemed more lighthearted. Dannyís parts are already done I thought?
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Post by: Puppies_On_Acid on May 17, 2018, 07:50:30 PM
I didnít really think it had any impact on my thinking towards release. It seemed more lighthearted. Dannyís parts are already done I thought?
They've said stuff like this many times before though....
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Post by: jammindude on May 17, 2018, 08:26:03 PM
I agree that it seemed like more of a lighthearted jab.   I know it's been frustrating, and I know they are taking too long....but I do believe that they are really where they say they are in the process.   They had to get through some stuff, and now they are through it, and they are at the next phase.   

I still think it might take another year or two (which is still longer than it should be) but I honestly believe it's coming.
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Post by: SystematicThought on May 17, 2018, 08:32:44 PM
The one thing I do think is that waiting this long to release a new album and with so many false starts, it does do them a sort of disservice, and I think Maynard has hinted at this. Theyíre pushing themselves to create a masterpiece or second guessing themselves and in the end people lose interest. Theyíll always draw a crowd with their shows, itís one of the best Iíve seen, but Iím not expecting anything groundbreaking or something theyíll be remembered foróI feel like they already hit that peak awhile ago.

Or maybe theyíll release a new album and teenagers will think itís some new group and the music will speak to them and draw in a whole new fan base.
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on May 17, 2018, 10:28:50 PM
Adam has posted a few pics from the studio on his Instagram. It does seem from them that Danny's stuff is done. Last I read somewhere, Justin was next followed by Adam and then Maynard.

He's got a pic of Danny recording drums and a pic of Danny and Joe in front of a board 'dialing in the drums'.

I'm being less pessimistic and saying it is finally progressing.

That Maynard thing absolutely looks like Maynard being Maynard and poking the bear for fun.
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Post by: SoundscapeMN on June 12, 2018, 07:35:57 PM
new music in 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=66&v=sqAiTxlz9gU
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Post by: ReaperKK on June 12, 2018, 07:58:29 PM
See some new music as in a 10 second clip on youtube :lol

If it comes out, I look forward to listening to it.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on June 12, 2018, 08:26:45 PM
He said "see" new music, but he didn't say "hear" knew music. Nice try Maynard...
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Post by: MinistroRaven on June 13, 2018, 08:59:29 PM
I wish they stop posting things, and just release the danm thing already
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Post by: Skeever on June 26, 2018, 12:35:21 PM
Whelp, looks like Maynard's gonna make the #MeToo list.
So much for Tool.
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Post by: El Barto on June 26, 2018, 12:48:16 PM
Whelp, looks like Maynard's gonna make the #MeToo list.
So much for Tool.
At this point I call these things a crapshoot. Maybe he weathers it and maybe he's crucified, and I can find no rhyme or reason as to how these things play out. Flip a coin, maybe? As for my own opinions, one is that I have no reason to believe or disbelieve her story. I would assume that parts of it are true and parts of it are not. I'm not willing to nail somebody up over that, and neither should anybody else. My other opinion will very likely show up in P/R when this inevitably pops up in the Weinstein thread.
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Post by: Skeever on June 26, 2018, 01:00:33 PM
I don't know about her story but I was a member of APC/Tool forums in the early 00s and I actually do recall knowing or unknowing groupies occasionally posting the stories of disappointing encounters with MJK so I was not surprised to see this when I saw it, in fact it reminded me of a lot of things I'd forgotten I'd read.
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Post by: Thrustbucket on June 28, 2018, 02:45:49 PM
As someone that is highly skeptical of much of the #metoo movement, I do believe this one. That's because I use to know a girl that worked for a rather large venue that hosted concerts all the time. She knew I liked Tool and mentioned to me one time that Maynard was notorious for doing what this lady on twitter described. He would, at every show, pick a girl to have sex with and his entourage would make it happen. Actually, the way she told it to me was that she had personally seen several young girls being lead to a room with just maynard all at once. What happened after that, everyone assumed or guessed. My friend didn't think that much of it because she said a lot of rock stars behave like this, and their fans are fully complicit. In fact, supposedly Joan Jett use to do it with men.

 Of course, this was about 13-15 years ago.
 
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Post by: Phoenix87x on June 28, 2018, 03:46:49 PM
If he actually did it, then that's incredibly lame. But as with all accusations, I leave it to the police to arrest him and the court to try him, examine the evidence and then make a decision. 

I could see him doing some shit like that, but my random opinion is not enough to convict someone of a crime.
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Post by: ErHaO on June 28, 2018, 03:49:06 PM
In regards to the metoo, I can't say this would surprise me if true. Multimedia business (be it producers, actors, rockstars) has been a goddam cesspool for like over a millennium long and I am willing to bet there is truth to a lot of the metoo cases, if not most. I do think the entertainment industry is long overdue for a cultural change and in that sense I think metoo is effective in the long run. I know (beginning) actors and people involved in multimedia production in my own country and yeah... there are a lot of creeps out there. Still, I think some skepticism is not out of place either, as I have witnessed two very ugly breakups that led to false rape accusations. So yes, that does happen as well, alltough the context in those cases is different. I can't possibly know this one is true or not, so I am not going to change my perception of Tool. But in the end I hope all rapists get their punishment. 
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Post by: Stadler on June 28, 2018, 04:20:57 PM
In fact, supposedly Joan Jett use to do it with men.



Sign me up!   I thought she was hot back in the day (and isn't exactly gross now).  Though I don't believe that story, no offense.
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Post by: jammindude on June 28, 2018, 10:58:37 PM
I read the original article, and I want to make one thing very clear. 

I think that speaking out is a good thing...because it takes away the veil that creeps hide behind, which is ďplausible deniabilityĒ.     Once you actually speak up and say no, and educate and encourage others to speak up and say no if you find yourself in this situation, this veil of plausible deniability disappears. 

That being said, by this girls own admission, she went along with it without protesting.....Yes, she did so out of fear.   (Honestly, there are stories about JFK that play out exactly the same way....I mean, how do you say no to the POTUS???).   But still, it creates a situation where it is IMPOSSIBLE to *prove* that you didnít consent.      I understand that fear can freeze you....but thatís why it is important that we teach everyone to SPEAK UP!!   Because if you donít, we honestly donít have anything tangible to base the accusation on.     Iím not even saying it wasnít rape....Iím just saying that there is no reasonable universe in which we can PROVE itís rape unless you speak up!!!   If you speak up after the fact, it may help someone in the future....so please, donít stop speaking up.   Donít think it does nothing just because you can never prove it.   Because you can at least teach the next person to be on their guard so that maybe they will speak up.    But without saying anything in the moment....youíve got nothing.   Iím not even saying itís right....itĒs just reality.
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: TioJorge on June 28, 2018, 11:26:17 PM
Isn't there a legal term and/or definition for that whole "just because you didn't explicitly scream "no" over and over doesn't mean it's not rape", specifically in regards to a military superior forcing an underling into a sexual act? I mean I'm sure it pertains to other situations, but I've heard of more than a couple stories regarding military personnel forcing those that serve them into sexual acts.

Either way, it's shitty to hear about. This whole revolution has really been insane. It's one of those things that everyone either was totally ignorant and blind to, or knew but didn't care because it wasn't out in the open. Now it is and there's this sensation that the famous are now pretty much broken into two halves: those that abuse and those that haven't (or haven't gotten caught...)
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: Peter Mc on June 29, 2018, 05:35:13 AM
As someone that is highly skeptical of much of the #metoo movement, I do believe this one. That's because I use to know a girl that worked for a rather large venue that hosted concerts all the time. She knew I liked Tool and mentioned to me one time that Maynard was notorious for doing what this lady on twitter described. He would, at every show, pick a girl to have sex with and his entourage would make it happen. Actually, the way she told it to me was that she had personally seen several young girls being lead to a room with just maynard all at once. What happened after that, everyone assumed or guessed. My friend didn't think that much of it because she said a lot of rock stars behave like this, and their fans are fully complicit. In fact, supposedly Joan Jett use to do it with men.

 Of course, this was about 13-15 years ago.

Rock stars having sex with groupies backstage is not unusual I wouldnít have thought. Thereís plenty of stories about that.

If this girl was raped of course, thatís totally different but Iím not sure we can use some anecdotal evidence that he used to take groupies back to his trailer and have sex with them to try and make out MJK is any worse than any other rock star. Iím sure the likes of Bon Jovi, Van Halen, GNR etc had girls lining up outside their dressing rooms for that purpose.

Will say again for clarity though that I am not in any way condoning MJK if he has raped someone, just that the behaviour your friend described is not an indication of that, just an indication that he is a typical sleazy rockstar who is not gonna turn down sex from hot girls if they are prepared to sleep with him. Iím pretty sure thatís why a lot of people want to become rockstars in the first place, to get loads of hot girls.
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: Stadler on June 29, 2018, 08:10:24 AM
I read the original article, and I want to make one thing very clear. 

I think that speaking out is a good thing...because it takes away the veil that creeps hide behind, which is ďplausible deniabilityĒ.     Once you actually speak up and say no, and educate and encourage others to speak up and say no if you find yourself in this situation, this veil of plausible deniability disappears. 

That being said, by this girls own admission, she went along with it without protesting.....Yes, she did so out of fear.   (Honestly, there are stories about JFK that play out exactly the same way....I mean, how do you say no to the POTUS???).   But still, it creates a situation where it is IMPOSSIBLE to *prove* that you didnít consent.      I understand that fear can freeze you....but thatís why it is important that we teach everyone to SPEAK UP!!   Because if you donít, we honestly donít have anything tangible to base the accusation on.     Iím not even saying it wasnít rape....Iím just saying that there is no reasonable universe in which we can PROVE itís rape unless you speak up!!!   If you speak up after the fact, it may help someone in the future....so please, donít stop speaking up.   Donít think it does nothing just because you can never prove it.   Because you can at least teach the next person to be on their guard so that maybe they will speak up.    But without saying anything in the moment....youíve got nothing.   Iím not even saying itís right....itĒs just reality.

Perhaps for another thread, but I want to explore the "I didn't say no, and I did what I did out of fear" notion, but I wonder if you can have those two conditions, but not have it actually be a "consent" issue.  Meaning, the "fear" thing tipped the balance of the "risk/reward" equation, but that was still a conscious decision.   This comes up at work all the time in a non-sexual way.   I might have to go to Dallas-Ft. Worth in two weeks.  I don't want to go.  I have personal things here that I have to attend to.   But I fear that my position in the company might be compromised if I don't go.   

Ever since "Head For Backstage Pass" on Jeff Beck's "Wired" album (what, 1976?), this has always been sort of common knowledge.   Sammy Hagar made no beef about being the recipient of fellatio (I don't think he used that word) to epic proportions across the United States, and legend says Def Leppard had a special room under their "In The Round" stage to specifically accommodate that.   Pam Des Barres and a couple others made an entire career out of being that girl.    I get it, and I totally accept that a woman's body - or a man's - is their sole purview, unequivocally, but I shouldn't really be able to go to a strip bar and then formally complain about the "breasts" or the "loud music".   I shouldn't be able to go to a race track and formally complain about the "smell of fuel everywhere".   

I'm no fan of Maynard - I just don't get the notion that he's something special, like some Tool fans - but fair is fair.   
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: Lethean on June 29, 2018, 08:54:46 AM
The alleged situation with Maynard and you being afraid of not going to Dallas because you'll get fired are two totally different things.  "Freezing" is a response to a traumatic event, like fight or flight - I believe it's now fight, flight, or freeze.  It's not necessarily something that the victim always has control over.  So while Jammin's advice isn't bad at all - we should encourage people to speak up, scream, etc, if there's any chance that encouragement will help them when the occasion calls for it - there might be a scientific/biological reason why the person doesn't/can't.
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: nattmorker on June 29, 2018, 09:53:24 AM
"Freezing" is a response to a traumatic event, like fight or flight - I believe it's now fight, flight, or freeze.  It's not necessarily something that the victim always has control over.  So while Jammin's advice isn't bad at all - we should encourage people to speak up, scream, etc, if there's any chance that encouragement will help them when the occasion calls for it - there might be a scientific/biological reason why the person doesn't/can't.

Totally this, totally agree.
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: ? on June 29, 2018, 11:05:01 AM
Looks like this was just a bunch of trolling:

(https://scontent.fsan1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36302481_10156314484440353_8106832482952806400_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=7c6708263e662c6cdc63a8b1b370f664&oe=5BAF47AB)

Besides the suspicious fact that those two accounts were created within an hour of each other, there was a thread on The Imageboard That Shall Not Be Named in which some dude hinted that he created the account accusing Reznor ("Trent is next, isn't he?") and therefore probably the one about Maynard too. Also, some publications reached out to the Maynard accuser for a comment, but none of them got a response.

But even if Maynard is innocent, the whole deal with the graphic backstage passes (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dgkw_PkX0AIpiwo.jpg), bringing in a whole harem and then only banging a few of them, and attempting to invite girls backstage despite them clearly being with their boyfriends is really skeevy IMO.
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: Stadler on June 29, 2018, 01:40:35 PM
The alleged situation with Maynard and you being afraid of not going to Dallas because you'll get fired are two totally different things.  "Freezing" is a response to a traumatic event, like fight or flight - I believe it's now fight, flight, or freeze.  It's not necessarily something that the victim always has control over.  So while Jammin's advice isn't bad at all - we should encourage people to speak up, scream, etc, if there's any chance that encouragement will help them when the occasion calls for it - there might be a scientific/biological reason why the person doesn't/can't.

I don't think we're talking about the same thing.  I'm not talking about the physical fear of being violently assaulted physically and sexually.  I'm talking about the after-the-fact, "oh I felt scared" scenario where you COULD have physically left, but perhaps you didn't like the potential consequences of doing so. 
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: Stadler on June 29, 2018, 01:41:42 PM
Looks like this was just a bunch of trolling:

(https://scontent.fsan1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36302481_10156314484440353_8106832482952806400_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=7c6708263e662c6cdc63a8b1b370f664&oe=5BAF47AB)

Besides the suspicious fact that those two accounts were created within an hour of each other, there was a thread on The Imageboard That Shall Not Be Named in which some dude hinted that he created the account accusing Reznor ("Trent is next, isn't he?") and therefore probably the one about Maynard too. Also, some publications reached out to the Maynard accuser for a comment, but none of them got a response.

But even if Maynard is innocent, the whole deal with the graphic backstage passes (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dgkw_PkX0AIpiwo.jpg), bringing in a whole harem and then only banging a few of them, and attempting to invite girls backstage despite them clearly being with their boyfriends is really skeevy IMO.

It's skeevy, but it's not illegal.   That was my point above.  If the "boyfriend" thing really mattered, the girl wouldn't go, it's that simple.   Women are consenting adults; if they want to cheat on their boyfriends, that's their decision - and their decision alone - to make.   
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: Lethean on June 29, 2018, 02:15:48 PM
The alleged situation with Maynard and you being afraid of not going to Dallas because you'll get fired are two totally different things.  "Freezing" is a response to a traumatic event, like fight or flight - I believe it's now fight, flight, or freeze.  It's not necessarily something that the victim always has control over.  So while Jammin's advice isn't bad at all - we should encourage people to speak up, scream, etc, if there's any chance that encouragement will help them when the occasion calls for it - there might be a scientific/biological reason why the person doesn't/can't.

I don't think we're talking about the same thing.  I'm not talking about the physical fear of being violently assaulted physically and sexually.  I'm talking about the after-the-fact, "oh I felt scared" scenario where you COULD have physically left, but perhaps you didn't like the potential consequences of doing so.

Those are 2 different things, but what I got from the tweets is that it was the physical fear for her - assuming, of course, that this is true and not trolling as ? suggests.  It wasn't "I thought he wouldn't like me so I went with it."  Speaking more broadly - if it's the latter - "fear" that your favorite singer won't like you or wouldn't let you backstage again or something like that, then no, I don't think anything illegal was done.  However, if it's a situation where you're an employee and it's "sleep with me or you're fired" - that's also a totally different situation than "go to Dallas to do your actual job or you're fired."  Travel is part of a lot of jobs.  Sleeping with a superior isn't. 
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: MinistroRaven on July 16, 2018, 07:30:09 AM
http://loudwire.com/google-alert-tool-new-album/
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 16, 2018, 11:25:46 AM
Thats the best thing to ever happen. Haha...
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: Cyclopssss on July 17, 2018, 04:08:09 AM
Almost spilled my coffee there.  :loser:
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: SoundscapeMN on September 11, 2018, 11:14:08 AM
another story saying 2019 is the year

http://loudwire.com/maynard-james-keenan-2019-tool-album-long-way-2-go-much-closer/
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: Fritzinger on September 11, 2018, 04:00:37 PM
yeah right










still excited though
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: Herrick on September 12, 2018, 08:08:07 PM
yeah right










still excited though

At this point it's like all those groups who "know" which year the world will end.
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: TioJorge on September 12, 2018, 09:44:03 PM
For real though. :lol
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: Fritzinger on October 23, 2018, 07:47:17 AM
This is awesome. THIS. IS. AWE. SOOOOOOOME

I have the biggest exam of the year 20 days later but I'm still going to Vienna.


YES


Quote
TOOL EUROPE TOUR 2019
SUNDAY, JUNE 2 @ MERCEDES-BENZ ARENA Ė BERLIN, GERMANY
ON SALE FRIDAY, OCT. 26 (9 am local)
https://www.livenation.de/arti...
TUESDAY, JUNE 4 @ O2 ARENA Ė PRAGUE, CZECH REPUBLIC
ON SALE FRIDAY, OCT, 26 (9am local)
https://www.livenation.cz/arti...
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 5 @ WIENER STADHALLE Ė VIENNA, AUSTRIA
ON SALE FRIDAY, OCT. 26 (9 am local)
https://www.livenation.de/arti...
FRIDAY, JUNE 7 @ ROCK AM RING FESTIVAL Ė NURBURG, GERMANY
(ALREADY ON SALE)
https://www.rock-am-ring.com/t...
SUNDAY, JUNE 9 @ ROCK IM PARK FESTIVAL Ė NUREMBERG, GERMANY
(ALREADY ON SALE)
https://www.rock-im-park.com/t...
TUESDAY, JUNE 11 @ IMPACT FESIVAL Ė TAURON ARENA Ė KRAKOW, POLAND
ON SALE FRIDAY, OCT. 26 (10:00 am local)
https://www.livenation.pl/arti...
THURSDAY, JUNE 13 @ FIRENZE ROCKS FESTIVAL Ė FLORENCE, ITALY
ON SALE FRIDAY, OCT 26 (11:00 local)
http://firenzerocks.it/tickets
SUNDAY, JUNE 16 @ DOWNLOAD FESTIVAL Ė DONINGTON, UK
ON SALE THURSDAY, OCT. 25 (7 pm local)
https://downloadfestival.co.uk...
TUESDAY, JUNE 18 @ ZIGGO DOME Ė AMSTERDAM, HOLLAND
ON SALE THURSDAY, OCT. 25 (10:00 local)
https://www.livenation.nl/arti...
THURSDAY, JUNE 20 @ COPENHELL FESTIVAL Ė COPENHAGEN, DENMARK
ON SALE THURSAY, OCT 25 (10:00 am local)
https://www.copenhell.dk
https://www.ticketmaster.dk/fe...
TUESDAY, JUNE 25 @ HALLENSTADION Ė ZURICH, SWITZERLAND
ON SALE FRIDAY, OCT. 26 (9am local)
https://www.ticketmaster.ch/ar...
SUNDAY, JUNE 30 @ DOWNLOAD FESTIVAL SPAIN Ė MADRID, SPAIN
ON SALE TUESDAY, OCT. 23 (5pm local)
https://downloadfestival.es/es...
TUESDAY, JULY 2 @ ALTICE ARENA Ė LISBON, PORTUGAL
ON SALE THURSDAY, OCT. 25 (10:00 local)
https://downloadfestival.es/es...
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: hauswife on October 25, 2018, 03:43:17 AM
Hey, my dad wanted to buy two tickets for the amsterdam show, but we cant pay at the ticketmaster website ?! dont know why.
do you have the same problem?
now we are searching for two tickets
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: Fritzinger on October 25, 2018, 04:05:54 AM
Hey, my dad wanted to buy two tickets for the amsterdam show, but we cant pay at the ticketmaster website ?! dont know why.
do you have the same problem?
now we are searching for two tickets

It looks like that concert is already sold out  :omg:
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: Train of Naught on October 25, 2018, 04:11:34 AM
Amsterdam gig was sold out within 30 seconds
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: hauswife on October 25, 2018, 04:14:13 AM
Yeah I know. He had two tickets but couldnt pay because the system required a Pin with 5 numbers but we only have 4 numbers ?!?! Because of that he couldnt buy them. Im really disappointed!!!!!!! Edit: Seems like the system was changed this year from 4 to 5 numbers. but you have to change that by your own. didnt know that :(:(:(:(

Now were searching for two tickets :D
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: Fritzinger on October 25, 2018, 06:38:04 AM
Yeah I know. He had two tickets but couldnt pay because the system required a Pin with 5 numbers but we only have 4 numbers ?!?! Because of that he couldnt buy them. Im really disappointed!!!!!!! Edit: Seems like the system was changed this year from 4 to 5 numbers. but you have to change that by your own. didnt know that :(:(:(:(

Now were searching for two tickets :D

I don't know if it's legal to post this here (if not, please admin remove this post), but in my experience, a lot of tickets will be sold on eBay a while after a concert is sold out. Seems like a very obvious information, but I actually found some tickets (for good prices too!) a bunch of times there.
Title: Re: TOOL : Still No Album. V Who Gives A Crap?!
Post by: Fritzinger on October 26, 2018, 01:34:21 AM
Ok I just tried to order tickets for Tool for Vienna AND Berlin. The second the clock went to 9:00, I refreshed the page and clicked on standing tickets for Berlin AND THEY WERE ALREADY SOLD OUT!!!!!
I immediately went to my (already open) Vienna tab and refreshed it and there were still some standing tickets and I got 2  ;D
Only problem is, my friend really wanted to go to Berlin because it's a Sunday and Vienna is in the middle of the week (and a 5 hs drive for him). So now I have two tickets for Vienna and no one to go there with ( :'( ) and no tickets for Berlin where I would have someone to go with... Well, June is still a few months ahead so maybe things will clear up a little or I find a friend who wants to go after all.

But I'm so happy that I will see Tool!  :metal