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Title: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on February 25, 2020, 07:56:24 PM
I'm a geek.  I love Jeopardy.   :heart

Has anyone here ever auditioned to be on?  Has anyone here ever been on?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Cool Chris on February 25, 2020, 09:01:38 PM
In another life I'd watch Jeopardy every day. What a brilliant idea for a game show. So simple, yet so appealing and enduring. Time, family, and a limited attention span prevent that now.

I recall TempusVox talking about the audition process. Maybe it was someone else, but I feel like someone here wrote it about it at some point.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Orbert on February 25, 2020, 09:02:46 PM
Jeopardy! has always been one of my favorite game shows.  So very simple: You get it right, you win cash.  You get it wrong, they take the cash away.  At the end, the one with the most cash gets to keep it, losers = weepers.

I'm old enough to remember the original with Art Fleming, but Alex Trebek is now forever associated with the game.  Same game, though.  I think they just made the numbers bigger.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on February 26, 2020, 07:55:38 AM
I've taken the test a couple times, but I haven't ever gotten past that stage.

If you're a Jeopardy fan (and I am, very much), you have to find the Cheers episode where Cliff gets on.  What is "Classic TV Episodes", Alex. 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: T-ski on February 26, 2020, 09:11:39 AM
I've taken the test a couple times, but I haven't ever gotten past that stage.

If you're a Jeopardy fan (and I am, very much), you have to find the Cheers episode where Cliff gets on.  What is "Classic TV Episodes", Alex.

Who are three people that have never been in my kitchen?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 26, 2020, 09:17:41 AM
When I was 19 (1995) I worked at a little mom and pop pizza restaurant. One of the delivery drivers was an old retired man. Everyday after the lunch rush....Jeopardy would come on at 3:00. It was usually not very busy so it'd be on and I'll be darn if Bob didn't know near every if not every answer to the questions. He was a freaking genius. We'd always just be in awe.

Then, we learned that Bob had a massive Satellite dish in his backyard and would catch that days episode of Jeopardy somehow in the morning before it actually was on air in St. Louis.....watch it.....then show up to work and fool us all into thinking he was some savant.  :lol
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: El Barto on February 26, 2020, 09:48:29 AM
I know two people who've been on Wheel of Fortune. None that have tried out for Jeopardy.

For a long while the TV in the break room only got channel 8, so everybody at the shop was hooked on Jeopardy and One Life to Live. Left me with the realization that I'm strictly middle of the pack when it comes to trivia, and a real hankering for the women of Llanview.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on February 26, 2020, 10:45:56 AM
When I was 19 (1995) I worked at a little mom and pop pizza restaurant. One of the delivery drivers was an old retired man. Everyday after the lunch rush....Jeopardy would come on at 3:00. It was usually not very busy so it'd be on and I'll be darn if Bob didn't know near every if not every answer to the questions. He was a freaking genius. We'd always just be in awe.

Then, we learned that Bob had a massive Satellite dish in his backyard and would catch that days episode of Jeopardy somehow in the morning before it actually was on air in St. Louis.....watch it.....then show up to work and fool us all into thinking he was some savant.  :lol

Similar story:  in college I worked construction, and one summer I was on a crew putting in water and gas lines.  Todd ran the backhoe/excavator, I did the leveling and grade work in the trench, and I can't remember his name but we'll call him Spicoli was a shovel guy.  Spicoli liked to smoke his morning break and lunch, and if he was more stoned than usual, Todd would break his balls.  Anyway, as we got nearer to break or lunch Spicoli would start asking "what time is it?"  And Todd would lean out of the cab look up at the sky in thought, and say "well, it seems to be about 11:45 or so, so we have a couple minutes... "  And Spicoli was always amazed.  Must've been 15 times that summer he was like "Man, that Todd is amazing, telling time by the sun like a goddamn Indian.  I gotta learn that!"    The laborers weren't supposed to run the equipment (for obvious reasons) but I was "college boy" so I got a break; later that summer, it started to rain one day, and the foreman Mick said "Stadler, go bring [Todd's machine] up to the staging area and close it up."   Sure thing, boss.  So I run down, turn the seat around to bring up the boom and stabilizers, and what do I see right below the window?

(https://i.imgur.com/oni1O5v.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 26, 2020, 11:13:05 AM
:clap:
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on February 26, 2020, 01:27:09 PM
I DVR it and typically watch over the weekend, although I do occasionally miss episodes.

I have taken the online test multiple times and have done the next step auditions at least three times.  The first time was, I think, in the days before the online test.  It was at Sony Studios, so it may have been whatever was in place before they started the online test as the first step.  Since they started doing the online test, they do the next step at the Doubletree hotel off the 405 in Culver City.  They have you complete and bring some paperwork.  They take a Polaroid and then bring everyone (about 24-30 people) into a meeting room.  You do another 50 question test (basically the same thing as the online test), and then they bring you up in groups of 3 to play a mock game.  I did this most recently sometime in the first half of 2019, and I felt like I did better on the test than I have done previously, so I thought I might finally get "the call," but nothing yet.  I didn't do the most recent online test because they said to wait a year and a half before doing that.


I'm also a big fan of SNL's Celebrity Jeopardy (one of the few things Will Ferrell has done that I like) and Black Jeopardy.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 26, 2020, 01:29:26 PM
I've done the online part of applying on two different occasions.  Never advanced past that point, but hope springs eternal.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: cramx3 on February 26, 2020, 01:53:57 PM
I hardly watch, but it's a great game show and being that it requires lots of knowledge, it's a bit more interesting to play along at home vs other game shows.

My high school English teacher was on Jeopardy and won his first night, lost his second.  He was my sponsor for national honors society.  Super smart guy with tons of random knowledge.  I hadn't thought of him in awhile, but a youtube search (which we didn't have back then) comes up empty to find video of him on it. 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on February 26, 2020, 02:08:26 PM
I DVR it and typically watch over the weekend, although I do occasionally miss episodes.

I have taken the online test multiple times and have done the next step auditions at least three times.  The first time was, I think, in the days before the online test.  It was at Sony Studios, so it may have been whatever was in place before they started the online test as the first step.  Since they started doing the online test, they do the next step at the Doubletree hotel off the 405 in Culver City.  They have you complete and bring some paperwork.  They take a Polaroid and then bring everyone (about 24-30 people) into a meeting room.  You do another 50 question test (basically the same thing as the online test), and then they bring you up in groups of 3 to play a mock game.  I did this most recently sometime in the first half of 2019, and I felt like I did better on the test than I have done previously, so I thought I might finally get "the call," but nothing yet.  I didn't do the most recent online test because they said to wait a year and a half before doing that.


I'm also a big fan of SNL's Celebrity Jeopardy (one of the few things Will Ferrell has done that I like) and Black Jeopardy.


"I'll take your mother for $200, Trebek!"
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Adami on February 26, 2020, 02:10:44 PM
This is the sound a doggy makes.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: bosk1 on February 26, 2020, 02:21:30 PM
Well, I know somebody that won $14,100, thanks in large part to "Foods That Begin With the Letter Q."
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: El Barto on February 26, 2020, 02:23:46 PM
Well, I know somebody that won $14,100, thanks in large part to "Foods That Begin With the Letter Q."
Quiche, Quesadilla, Quinoa, Quail, and then I come up blank.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: bosk1 on February 26, 2020, 02:33:49 PM
:lol  I don't remember all 5 that she got, but I believe quince was one of them. 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on February 26, 2020, 03:52:42 PM
"I'll take your mother for $200, Trebek!"

"An Album Cover" becomes "Anal Bum Cover."

"Let It Snow" becomes "Le Tits Now."

 :rollin :rollin


Well, I know somebody that won $14,100, thanks in large part to "Foods That Begin With the Letter Q."
Quiche, Quesadilla, Quinoa, Quail, and then I come up blank.

Hmmm...the only time that category has been used on Jeopardy was on the Oct. 1, 1997 episode (ep. #3008) ( http://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=1144&highlight=foods+that+begin+with+the+letter+q ):

$200 - This member of the pheasant family can be roasted, broiled or fried.  WHAT IS QUAIL?

$400 - It's a tortilla that's been filled, folded and fried.  WHAT IS QUESADILLA?

$600 - This savory pie can have bacon bits added to the custard filling.  WHAT IS QUICHE?

$800 - This yellow-skinned fruit has been used for centuries in jams and jellies.  WHAT IS QUINCE?

$1,000 - Most biscuits are an example of these baked items that require little or no kneading.  WHAT ARE QUICK BREADS?

Contestant #1 (a man) correctly answered the $200 clue but buzzed in and didn't answer the $1,000 clue.  Contestant #3 (also a man) correctly answered the $400 and $800 clues.  Contestant #2 (a woman) correctly answered the $1,000 clue after contestant #1 flubbed it.  That woman finished the Double Jeopardy! round with $5,500 and lost it all on the Final Jeopardy! clue about the location of the first 24-hour 7-11 store (Las Vegas).

Thinking you got some bad info from your acquaintance, Bosk.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: bosk1 on February 26, 2020, 04:00:42 PM
Thinking you got some bad info from your acquaintance, Bosk.

No, it's a movie reference.  And it is believed by some that that category's actual appearance on the show was a result of the Jeopardy scene in that film 5 years earlier.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on February 26, 2020, 08:19:28 PM
That Cheers episode is CLASSIC.  I had to watch it again.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=botdmsQilnU

And finally....celibacy.   :Rollin

Ok who are the 2 ppl who don't know what Jeopardy is?!?  :o

I'm a daily watcher.  I don't think that will continue once Alex is no longer host.  I hope that's not for a long time yet.



Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on February 27, 2020, 07:28:31 AM
That Cheers episode is CLASSIC.  I had to watch it again.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=botdmsQilnU

And finally....celibacy.   :Rollin

Ok who are the 2 ppl who don't know what Jeopardy is?!?  :o

I'm a daily watcher.  I don't think that will continue once Alex is no longer host.  I hope that's not for a long time yet.

Harmony, I'm with you on that last comment.   Never say never, but I enjoy his hosting as much as anything else.  Honestly, I'm usually not enamored with the guests; I was never a Ken Jennings fan, and I really do not like that new guy Holzauer.  He made the rounds of the various quiz shows about a year or so ago, maybe more.  He was on that show with the British quizmaster Mark Labbett then this other show 500 Questions, and I thought he was a tool then. 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on February 27, 2020, 09:35:04 PM
I generally get bored with multi-show winners after about 5-10 episodes.  The current champ is a relatively young woman who is fairly likeable and has won I think 8 episodes.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on April 19, 2020, 06:32:18 PM
I'm old enough to remember Art Fleming as host, Don Pardo as announcer.  Back then, an undefeated left after five shows.  Wish they'd limit it to ten.  They also kept all their money, so it made 'Final Jeopardy' a bit more interesting on wagers ("Should I gamble it all and possibly lose it all with the chance to win, or be safe and take home what I've earned?")  Then again, each 'answer' was worth 10x less back then.

It took me a long time to get used to Alex, having watched him host one game show called 'High Rollers'.  When the time comes, no one will be able to fill his shoes, but the show definitely should go on.  Didn't realize that Johnny Gilbert has worked with Alex since Day One.

I love trivia, and though I'm watching the screen blankly quite often while my wife is on a roll, I more than hold my own often enough with a bit of luck or sifting through a clue.  We love to raise both arms when we're correct and no contestants answers, (twice with an incorrect w/no answer, etc), especially when it is 'Final Jeopardy'. 

A pet peeve of ours is how overly finicky they are at times, which we call their 'Sgt. Pepper' moments (an incorrect final question, as it was required to write the entire name of the album for the correct response :tdwn)

I'm guessing April 20th will be the first televised without an audience.  They did a few weeks worth that way before stopping production a few weeks back.

btw...thanks for the youtube link for the 'Cheers' episode.  Now my wife knows what I've referred to often. Wish the whole episode was available.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on April 20, 2020, 11:46:20 AM
I'm old enough to remember Art Fleming as host, Don Pardo as announcer.  Back then, an undefeated left after five shows.  Wish they'd limit it to ten.  They also kept all their money, so it made 'Final Jeopardy' a bit more interesting on wagers ("Should I gamble it all and possibly lose it all with the chance to win, or be safe and take home what I've earned?")  Then again, each 'answer' was worth 10x less back then.

Wow...I just watched part of an episode from 1974.  They apparently allowed contestants to buzz in at any time.  It's interesting to see stuff that I guess was common knowledge back then, and I had no clue about most of the clues!  Seeing the clues worth only $10-50 was quite amusing.

By the way...for anyone interested, you can now take the contestant test at any time at www.jeopardy.com.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: ZirconBlue on April 20, 2020, 01:52:27 PM


I'm old enough to remember Art Fleming as host, Don Pardo as announcer.  Back then, an undefeated lef
btw...thanks for the youtube link for the 'Cheers' episode.  Now my wife knows what I've referred to often. Wish the whole episode was available.



It looks like Cheers is on Netflix.  Possibly also on Hulu and CBS All Access, if Google is to be believed.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on April 20, 2020, 01:58:58 PM


I'm old enough to remember Art Fleming as host, Don Pardo as announcer.  Back then, an undefeated lef
btw...thanks for the youtube link for the 'Cheers' episode.  Now my wife knows what I've referred to often. Wish the whole episode was available.



It looks like Cheers is on Netflix.  Possibly also on Hulu and CBS All Access, if Google is to be believed.

Yup...Cheers is on Netflix.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on April 21, 2020, 06:00:18 PM
Still an audience.  And we watched the 'Cheers' episode on Netlfix after BCS.  Thank you for that tip.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on April 27, 2020, 06:02:57 PM
I know!  I keep waiting for the end of normalcy.  And Alex is looking pretty good.  I know he's got a lot of makeup on and a toupee, but still!!  :tup

And I loved James Holzhauer.  Primarily because Alex seemed to get such a kick from him.  And I have to admit, I was unsure at first but I definitely warmed up to him.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on May 19, 2020, 11:36:54 AM
They replayed the end of Ken Jennings' streak on Friday.  The reaction of the 'king slayer' was priceless.  From their Fbook page:

https://www.facebook.com/Jeopardy/photos/a.187939387923652/3240706262646934/?type=3&theater

(and, 'yea, me', I got the Final Jeopardy question correct :tup)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Cool Chris on May 19, 2020, 11:52:17 AM
I'd never seen that video before. Nice job on the cameraman and director to cut to her at that moment. And that picture!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on May 19, 2020, 12:16:02 PM
They replayed the end of Ken Jennings' streak on Friday.  The reaction of the 'king slayer' was priceless.  From their Fbook page:

https://www.facebook.com/Jeopardy/photos/a.187939387923652/3240706262646934/?type=3&theater

(and, 'yea, me', I got the Final Jeopardy question correct :tup)

That's hilarious!  I watched the episode over the weekend (and also saw it when it first aired).  I remember thinking the question was super easy and was as shocked as the audience when Ken biffed it.  They played a little blurb from Ken right after the show where he said that, when he saw "seasonal" in the clue, his mind immediately went to the Christmas season and that he never even considered something like tax preparation.  That's where my mind went first also, but then when you take into account "white collar" and the four month time span in the clue, it becomes pretty obvious.  The funny thing was that Nancy was a one-hit wonder who lost the next day.


I'd never seen that video before. Nice job on the cameraman and director to cut to her at that moment. And that picture!

I assume the director knew before the answers were revealed that Ken had the wrong answer wrong and so made sure to have a camera on Nancy.  The rest was just editing since it wasn't a live broadcast.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Cool Chris on May 19, 2020, 12:34:49 PM
They played a little blurb from Ken right after the show where he said that, when he saw "seasonal" in the clue, his mind immediately went to the Christmas season and that he never even considered something like tax preparation.  That's where my mind went first also, but then when you take into account "white collar" and the four month time span in the clue, it becomes pretty obvious. 

I read about the story after so didn't have a chance to think about the clue first. But H&R Block never would have occurred to me because I have always done my own taxes. If you asked me what H&R Block was, it would take me a minute to give you an answer.

Just read this about James Holzhauer:
Quote
He took a year off from his occupation as a sports gambler to study for Jeopardy!
Granted "sports gambler' is not a standard, punch the time clock, 9-5, 40 hours a week type job, but still, damn.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on June 23, 2020, 03:12:07 PM
Reruns started last week.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on September 14, 2020, 04:23:48 PM
Alex is back tonight  :tup
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on September 14, 2020, 05:08:11 PM
Alex is back tonight  :tup

Hot damn!!!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on November 08, 2020, 10:36:26 AM
RIP, Alex

From Thursday's after show segment  https://ew.com/tv/jeopardy-champion-thanks-alex-trebek-helping-learn-english/

On Friday, the champion got to mention this during the contestant interview segment.  Alex said he used to sit on his grandfather's lap as well, who taught him how to swear :rollin

We watched the entire interview segment twice that night.  The eventual champion was a 'mouth beat drummer' who cracked everyone up.  All three contestants that night had such a friendly rapport with each other, equalled only by the 'Greatest of All Time' tourney with Ken Jennings, Brad Rutter, and James Holzhauer.

He fought the good fight, and looked so good since the return of the show.

You're always welcome at Cheers.......
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: masterthes on November 08, 2020, 10:50:46 AM
Sucks so much. I wonder how many episodes they managed to film?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: T-ski on November 08, 2020, 11:02:46 AM
Alex Trebek and Sean Connery passing so close to one another is rather, um, ironic?

RIP Mr. Jeopardy.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on November 08, 2020, 11:55:25 AM
I believe they taped until October 29th, and have enough episodes up to Christmas. 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: masterthes on November 08, 2020, 02:15:03 PM
Yeah, just read an article confirming Christmas will be his final episode
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: cramx3 on November 08, 2020, 04:02:58 PM
Alex Trebek and Sean Connery passing so close to one another is rather, um, ironic?

RIP Mr. Jeopardy.

Crazy, fu 2020. RIP Alex
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on November 08, 2020, 04:56:48 PM
Alex had stones of solid titanium.  To be going through the cancer treatment AND still record episodes of Jeopardy in a pandemic is incredible.

Alex will be TRULY missed.  Eddie Van Halen was an all-time great, but he hadn't done anything that I consumed in decades, so his death didn't affect me.  Even Neil Peart had been retired for four-plus years.  Chris Squire was a tough one for me because he was still actively performing and recording and was also a direct influence on me.  Alex is the same because he was still actively working on something I was consuming.  He will be sorely missed.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on December 22, 2020, 04:33:33 PM
Final episodes now to be aired next year.

https://tvline.com/2020/12/21/alex-trebek-last-jeopardy-episode-air-date/

Being taped so far in advance, it was kind of tough hearing him mention the Thanksgiving break, and then hoping everyone has a good T'giving, since he had already passed away.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Cool Chris on December 22, 2020, 06:24:23 PM
Thank Thanksgiving message was great. Thank you Alex.

As is this bit from James Holzhauer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5W8y2CYm3Y
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on December 23, 2020, 12:53:17 PM
Final episodes now to be aired next year.

https://tvline.com/2020/12/21/alex-trebek-last-jeopardy-episode-air-date/

Being taped so far in advance, it was kind of tough hearing him mention the Thanksgiving break, and then hoping everyone has a good T'giving, since he had already passed away.

Yeah...I got an email from Jeopardy a couple weeks ago saying that they'll be re-airing some "Alex on location" episodes this week and next.  Alex's last episodes will air the week of January 4.

On another note, around Thanksgiving, I took the online test.  About a week later, I got an email telling me I passed and asking me to schedule an interview/live test via Zoom.  I actually forgot to schedule, so now I have to wait until they schedule some more after the new year.  Ugh....  Weird to think that, after as many times as I've tried to get on, if I make it now, it won't be with Alex.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 23, 2020, 02:05:23 PM
On another note, around Thanksgiving, I took the online test.  About a week later, I got an email telling me I passed and asking me to schedule an interview/live test via Zoom.  I actually forgot to schedule, so now I have to wait until they schedule some more after the new year.  Ugh....  Weird to think that, after as many times as I've tried to get on, if I make it now, it won't be with Alex.
Nice going making it that far.  I took the online test a couple of times over the years, and never passed.   :mehlin
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on January 08, 2021, 05:57:52 PM
First, kudos to anyone that makes it beyond the initial test to be a contestant.

Because they changed the showing dates, hearing him say 'Merry Christmas Eve' and 'Merry Christmas' the last two nights was a bit 'awkward'.....and also said.

The montage they put together at the end was wonderful.  All fun and joyous snippets.....and then the final bits of him saying 'So long' and walking off.....<snif>
(and, nope, no Cliff Clavin footage...)

Because our schedules became more 'normal' over the past ten years, my wife and I watched 3-5 times a week (certainly easier to 'tape' in this digital age when we wouldn't be home at 7pm).   Damn.....what large shoes to try to fill......
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on January 12, 2021, 10:17:37 AM
Because they changed the showing dates, hearing him say 'Merry Christmas Eve' and 'Merry Christmas' the last two nights was a bit 'awkward'.....and also said.

The montage they put together at the end was wonderful.  All fun and joyous snippets.....and then the final bits of him saying 'So long' and walking off.....<snif>
(and, nope, no Cliff Clavin footage...)

It was an unfortunate week for Alex's final episodes.  The Wednesday episode got moved, and I actually found it in a DVR recording of a different program, so I watched last week's episodes out of order.  The final montage was really good.

I watched Ken Jennings's first episode yesterday.  His intro speech was really good.  He seemed like he was about to break down right from the start, and I wonder how many takes they had to do.  I thought he did a really good job, although you could tell he was really nervous throughout the broadcast.  He closed the broadcast by thanking the contestants and the audience, and then a final thank you to Alex.

I read an interview that Jennings did where he talked about how he thought he understood everything Alex did, but when he actually got behind the podium, he realized Alex did ten things for every one that the audience saw.  He said he called his wife after his fifth episode and told her he thought he wasn't doing well.  She tried to talk him down a bit by saying, "well...do you think you did about as well as Alex did on his FIRST episode?"  He said this made him feel a little better.

Honestly, Jennings was an interesting choice for the first "guest host" because he's not a professional and (AFAIK) has no experience hosting anything (although he's involved with two shows currently running on the Game Show Network).  It'll be interesting to see this process plays out.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on January 12, 2021, 10:41:56 AM
I really don't like Ken Jennings, though.  Do you think I might warm to him watching him?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on January 12, 2021, 12:22:38 PM
I really don't like Ken Jennings, though.  Do you think I might warm to him watching him?

I don't know.  I wasn't a fan of the guy a couple years ago who won a bunch of money.  James something-or-other, the professional gambler.  I don't know if he's going to be one of the guest hosts, but I'll probably be biased against him if he is.  I don't really have strong feelings about Jennings.  He's got two shows that air on the Game Show Network (MasterMinds and The Chase), where's he's the expert (or one of them) against whom "regular" contestants compete.  He doesn't really have a cocky attitude, so he seems a little out of place on those shows.

For the most part, I think the host of Jeopardy! needs to be like an umpire in baseball or NFL official.  The less you notice him, the better he's doing at his job.  Right now, anyone other than Alex seems out of place.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on January 12, 2021, 01:20:43 PM
I really don't like Ken Jennings, though.  Do you think I might warm to him watching him?

I don't know.  I wasn't a fan of the guy a couple years ago who won a bunch of money.  James something-or-other, the professional gambler.  I don't know if he's going to be one of the guest hosts, but I'll probably be biased against him if he is.  I don't really have strong feelings about Jennings.  He's got two shows that air on the Game Show Network (MasterMinds and The Chase), where's he's the expert (or one of them) against whom "regular" contestants compete.  He doesn't really have a cocky attitude, so he seems a little out of place on those shows.

For the most part, I think the host of Jeopardy! needs to be like an umpire in baseball or NFL official.  The less you notice him, the better he's doing at his job.  Right now, anyone other than Alex seems out of place.


I used to watch "The Chase" with the Beast, Mark Labbett, and Holzauer was on there.  He had the personality of my sock.  I'm not a fan, myself. 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Orbert on January 12, 2021, 01:34:06 PM
You don't even like your own socks?  Damn, tough room.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on January 12, 2021, 01:41:57 PM
I used to watch "The Chase" with the Beast, Mark Labbett, and Holzauer was on there.  He had the personality of my sock.  I'm not a fan, myself.

That's the guy.  He and Jennings and Brad Rutter are filling the spot previously occupied by "the Beast."  I caught an episode last night where Jackie Fuchs (aka Jackie Fox) from the Runaways (and now a Harvard educated lawyer) was a contestant.  She did not do well.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on January 12, 2021, 07:35:12 PM
You don't even like your own socks?  Damn, tough room.

I don't; I wear the ankle socks mostly, but I went with the cheap brand, and they rip and the elastic fails so they slide into my shoe. Annoying.   That's Holzauer's personality to me.  :)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Dream Team on January 12, 2021, 08:06:07 PM
Jennings’ voice wasn’t powerful or commanding enough, but he gave a nice tribute to AT.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Orbert on January 12, 2021, 08:38:39 PM
You don't even like your own socks?  Damn, tough room.

I don't; I wear the ankle socks mostly, but I went with the cheap brand, and they rip and the elastic fails so they slide into my shoe. Annoying.   That's Holzauer's personality to me.  :)

Different priorities, I guess.  I spend more time wearing socks than not wearing socks, so I have to have socks I like.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Cool Chris on January 12, 2021, 08:47:32 PM
Ken is the right host at the right time. Don't know his or the show's long term plans, but like in sports, you don't want to be the guy who follows the legend. Better to be the guy who follows the guy who follows the legend. Who again coached UNC after Dean Smith and Before Roy Williams?

Apparently he sent out some insensitive tweets he had to apologize for. They were generally bad humor, but a couple were at the expense of Republicans, so a simple "Sorry 'bout that" was sufficient.

Looks like he was also born in the next town over from where I live. I did not know that.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on January 13, 2021, 09:27:55 AM
Ken is the right host at the right time. Don't know his or the show's long term plans, but like in sports, you don't want to be the guy who follows the legend. Better to be the guy who follows the guy who follows the legend. Who again coached UNC after Dean Smith and Before Roy Williams?

Apparently he sent out some insensitive tweets he had to apologize for. They were generally bad humor, but a couple were at the expense of Republicans, so a simple "Sorry 'bout that" was sufficient.

The show's plans are to have a series of "guest hosts," after which the producers will select a permanent successor to Trebek.  In addition to Jennings, Katie Couric and Aaron Rodgers will host a series of episodes.  I assume the inclusion of Rodgers (who won $50k for charity on a 2015 Celebrity Jeopardy! episode) means that not all of the guest hosts will be candidates to take over the job permanently, but who knows?  Based on the show's filming schedule, it's likely that each guest will do two weeks' worth of episodes.

As far as Jennings's tweets, from what I read, some were political, while others were jokes of the sort that someone trying to become a public figure probably shouldn't be making publicly (but at least one of which I thought was kinda funny).
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on January 13, 2021, 04:54:03 PM
The show's plans are to have a series of "guest hosts," after which the producers will select a permanent successor to Trebek.  In addition to Jennings, Katie Couric and Aaron Rodgers will host a series of episodes.  I assume the inclusion of Rodgers (who won $50k for charity on a 2015 Celebrity Jeopardy! episode) means that not all of the guest hosts will be candidates to take over the job permanently, but who knows?  Based on the show's filming schedule, it's likely that each guest will do two weeks' worth of episodes.

Add Bill Whitaker (a journalist and correspondent on 60 Minutes), Mayim Bialik and Jeopardy! executive producer Mike Richards to the list of confirmed guest hosts.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Cool Chris on January 13, 2021, 08:52:32 PM
The guest host plan is probably the best, as no one is going to adequately fill Alex's shoes on a permanent basis right out of the gate. The memories are still too fresh, and the comparisons will thus never be fair.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on January 14, 2021, 11:34:38 AM
GOD, am I hard to please.  I just wrote a thing in the Star Wars thread about the animation in the Star Wars universe and now I'm here to say.... other than Aaron Rodgers, not one of those guests even remotely interests me.   
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: SoundscapeMN on January 14, 2021, 12:19:50 PM
I read something a few weeks ago about Jennings not being interested in permanently being the host.

However, unlike some of the others, he is actually involved and producer of Jeopardy.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on January 14, 2021, 01:32:51 PM
Jennings isn't a producer of Jeopardy.

The celebrity guest hosts (Rodgers and Bialik) will be a novelty, but I assume they're not under consideration for the permanent job.  Jennings is doing well, but he has other gigs and it wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't want the job.  Couric and Whitaker, as journalists, seem more likely, but I question whether they'd want to move from their more serious jobs.

Just remember, Trebek was anything but a star when he got the job.  A relative unknown would probably the best option.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Orbert on January 14, 2021, 04:00:28 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/DZ10qMx.jpg)

Nice!  :tup


Anyway, I came here to say that Alex Trebek is one of the few game-show hosts who I actually knew by name before he took over hosting Jeopardy!  I'm old enough to remember original Jeopardy! with Art Fleming (that's why Weird Al's song "I Lost on Jeopardy" references Art Fleming and everybody today wonders who that is).  I'm not a game-show junkie, but the good ones can be pretty fun to watch.  Alex did Concentration, To Tell the Truth, and others before taking the Jeopardy! gig.  He seemed a bit drier than Art, but there's no question that he's a smart guy, and he made it work.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on January 14, 2021, 05:27:44 PM
Nice!  :tup


Anyway, I came here to say that Alex Trebek is one of the few game-show hosts who I actually knew by name before he took over hosting Jeopardy!  I'm old enough to remember original Jeopardy! with Art Fleming (that's why Weird Al's song "I Lost on Jeopardy" references Art Fleming and everybody today wonders who that is).  I'm not a game-show junkie, but the good ones can be pretty fun to watch.  Alex did Concentration, To Tell the Truth, and others before taking the Jeopardy! gig.  He seemed a bit drier than Art, but there's no question that he's a smart guy, and he made it work.

LOL at the Google thing!

Trebek's first episode aired on September 10, 1984, which was seven months after Yankovic's In 3-D album was released and three months after "I Lost on Jeopardy" was released as a single.  I vividly remember both the Greg Kihn song and video on which Yankovic's song was based and the Yankovic parody.  I didn't realize until I just checked that they were released in such close proximity to Trebek's debut on the show (which was re-aired about a month ago).

I'm old enough to have seen the Art Fleming version, but I'm not sure if I ever did, but I don't recall being perplexed at the reference in the Yankovic song.  I knew Alex Trebek from High Rollers.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Orbert on January 14, 2021, 08:31:26 PM
I wasn't perplexed, but I have to imagine that most people younger than us were.  As you said, the Weird Al song came out while Art Fleming was still best known for Jeopardy!, but the show was gone, and it was shortly after that that Alex brought it back.  Also, the video lampoons the old Art Fleming set, not the nifty new LED-powered Alex Trebek set.  And to be fair, I've never actually heard anybody wonder who Art Fleming is or why he's mentioned in the Weird Al song, but I'm sure that today, if you ask anyone who the host of Jeopardy! was, they'd tell you it was Alex, not Art.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: SoundscapeMN on January 15, 2021, 06:13:25 PM
Jennings isn't a producer of Jeopardy.

https://www.jeopardy.com/about/cast/ken-jennings

Quote
Consulting Producer
KEN JENNINGS
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on January 16, 2021, 09:59:00 AM
I watched him last night; better than I thought he'd be, but - and I know this makes me sound petty - his voice was a little annoying for a job that requires him to read 61 some-odd questions.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: jingle.boy on January 18, 2021, 06:02:04 AM
I watched him last night; better than I thought he'd be, but - and I know this makes me sound petty - his voice was a little annoying for a job that requires him to read 61 some-odd questions.

You new to the show?  He reads the answers.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on January 18, 2021, 07:20:58 AM
I watched him last night; better than I thought he'd be, but - and I know this makes me sound petty - his voice was a little annoying for a job that requires him to read 61 some-odd questions.

You new to the show?  He reads the answers.
What show?   :) :)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on February 07, 2021, 10:25:32 AM
On another note, around Thanksgiving, I took the online test.  About a week later, I got an email telling me I passed and asking me to schedule an interview/live test via Zoom.  I actually forgot to schedule, so now I have to wait until they schedule some more after the new year.  Ugh....

So...I'm set for my "in person" (via Zoom) test/audition this coming Wednesday!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on February 07, 2021, 02:55:04 PM
On another note, around Thanksgiving, I took the online test.  About a week later, I got an email telling me I passed and asking me to schedule an interview/live test via Zoom.  I actually forgot to schedule, so now I have to wait until they schedule some more after the new year.  Ugh....

So...I'm set for my "in person" (via Zoom) test/audition this coming Wednesday!

YAY! 

Rooting for you.


By the way, I've been watching lately, and while I've been vocal in not liking Ken Jennings before, he's growing on me.  I like him as host.   
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on February 07, 2021, 03:46:58 PM
YAY! 

Rooting for you.


By the way, I've been watching lately, and while I've been vocal in not liking Ken Jennings before, he's growing on me.  I like him as host.

Thanks.

I agree about Jennings, but I think it's interesting that they did this many episodes with him.  Lots of folks are becoming attached to him and not looking forward to the rest of the many guest hosts.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 09, 2021, 03:35:44 PM
On another note, around Thanksgiving, I took the online test.  About a week later, I got an email telling me I passed and asking me to schedule an interview/live test via Zoom.  I actually forgot to schedule, so now I have to wait until they schedule some more after the new year.  Ugh....

So...I'm set for my "in person" (via Zoom) test/audition this coming Wednesday!
That's awesome!  Good luck!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on February 09, 2021, 04:53:01 PM
Thanks, Hef!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on March 08, 2021, 11:36:59 AM
Received the following email this morning:

"Congratulations! You passed the 'In-Person' Test!

We are currently working on when the next step in your Jeopardy! Contestant Audition process will take place.  Please be aware it may take a while before we can book you into that next step.  Thank you for your patience.  We’ll be in touch.

-The Jeopardy! Contestant Team"

Not sure what the next step will be, but....!


In other news, I believe Katie Couric's tenure as guest host begins tonight.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 08, 2021, 11:43:44 AM
Received the following email this morning:

"Congratulations! You passed the 'In-Person' Test!

We are currently working on when the next step in your Jeopardy! Contestant Audition process will take place.  Please be aware it may take a while before we can book you into that next step.  Thank you for your patience.  We’ll be in touch.

-The Jeopardy! Contestant Team"

Not sure what the next step will be, but....!
:djhef:
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on March 08, 2021, 03:30:54 PM
Received the following email this morning:

"Congratulations! You passed the 'In-Person' Test!

We are currently working on when the next step in your Jeopardy! Contestant Audition process will take place.  Please be aware it may take a while before we can book you into that next step.  Thank you for your patience.  We’ll be in touch.

-The Jeopardy! Contestant Team"

Not sure what the next step will be, but....!


In other news, I believe Katie Couric's tenure as guest host begins tonight.

NICE!

I was thinking the other day about things like Tik Tok viral videos, memes, Ridiculousness, game shows, Pron Hub, - all those content outlets where there are so-called "real people", and I don't think I've ever seen anyone I personally know on one of those.  I was going to include live shots from music DVDs, but I'm sure from people here I know at least one person, I just don't realize it.

If you include gameshows, I'm claiming you as the first! 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on March 08, 2021, 04:16:43 PM
Received the following email this morning:

"Congratulations! You passed the 'In-Person' Test!

We are currently working on when the next step in your Jeopardy! Contestant Audition process will take place.  Please be aware it may take a while before we can book you into that next step.  Thank you for your patience.  We’ll be in touch.

-The Jeopardy! Contestant Team"

Not sure what the next step will be, but....!


In other news, I believe Katie Couric's tenure as guest host begins tonight.

NICE!

I was thinking the other day about things like Tik Tok viral videos, memes, Ridiculousness, game shows, Pron Hub, - all those content outlets where there are so-called "real people", and I don't think I've ever seen anyone I personally know on one of those.  I was going to include live shots from music DVDs, but I'm sure from people here I know at least one person, I just don't realize it.

If you include gameshows, I'm claiming you as the first!

We'll see about that.

I think I've already posted about this...I was on a different game show back in late 2002.  A year or so earlier, I had gone through the process to try and get on Win Ben Stein's Money.  Some time in the fall of 2002, I was driving home from work and got a call on my mobile phone from whomever was doing the casting.  They said they were doing a new game show and asked if I'd be interested.  I said sure!  The show was called WinTuition, and the premise was that you'd answer "grade level appropriate" questions from 1st through 12th grade.  The grand prize was $50k to be used either for your own college education or to put in a 529 account for someone else.  I showed up and was matched against a couple young/mid-20s women, and I pretty much smoked them.  Unfortunately, I didn't get enough questions right during the final round to win the $50k.  I won somewhere around $2,500 cash, a Gibson Epiphone Les Paul, a river rafting trip, and some camping equipment.  Unfortunately for you all, my episode does not appear to have been uploaded to YouTube or anywhere else online.

I also had a sister on Wheel of Fortune sometime in the late 80s.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 09, 2021, 07:32:23 AM
When I was a senior in high school, my Quiz Bowl team was on local TV for a show called High Q.  We finished 3rd.

Closest I've ever been to being on a game show lol
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: jingle.boy on March 09, 2021, 07:45:55 AM
I was going to include live shots from music DVDs, but I'm sure from people here I know at least one person, I just don't realize it.

Nick made an appearance on the Time Machine DVD.  I think Cram got his mug on Redemption / Alive in Colour.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Orbert on March 09, 2021, 08:16:05 AM
When I was a senior in high school, my Quiz Bowl team was on local TV for a show called High Q.  We finished 3rd.

Closest I've ever been to being on a game show lol

:lol

I can do you one better, or worse I suppose.  I was the alternate for our high school Quiz Bowl team.  Our team was pretty good, and was on the broadcast a few times, but I was never on.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on March 09, 2021, 09:26:50 AM
I was going to include live shots from music DVDs, but I'm sure from people here I know at least one person, I just don't realize it.

Nick made an appearance on the Time Machine DVD.  I think Cram got his mug on Redemption / Alive in Colour.

Where?  I just watched that; I was pleasantly surprised by the high incidence of attractive females in the first few rows.  It was almost like they stole the crowd shots from a Billy Joel DVD.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 09, 2021, 10:12:29 AM
When I was a senior in high school, my Quiz Bowl team was on local TV for a show called High Q.  We finished 3rd.

Closest I've ever been to being on a game show lol

:lol

I can do you one better, or worse I suppose.  I was the alternate for our high school Quiz Bowl team.  Our team was pretty good, and was on the broadcast a few times, but I was never on.
:tup
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: jingle.boy on March 09, 2021, 12:53:21 PM
I was going to include live shots from music DVDs, but I'm sure from people here I know at least one person, I just don't realize it.

Nick made an appearance on the Time Machine DVD.  I think Cram got his mug on Redemption / Alive in Colour.

Where?  I just watched that; I was pleasantly surprised by the high incidence of attractive females in the first few rows.  It was almost like they stole the crowd shots from a Billy Joel DVD.

Nick would probably have to confirm the exact time-stamp.  It's been a while since I watched it.  I don't even remember what song it was in.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on March 09, 2021, 08:38:50 PM
The Jeopardy Executive Producer did a great job during his two weeks filling in as host.

Katie Couric has done well in her two nights.

I keep waiting for a category titled 'Newspapers and Magazines (You Have Read)'   ;)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on March 10, 2021, 09:26:47 AM
The Jeopardy Executive Producer did a great job during his two weeks filling in as host.

Katie Couric has done well in her two nights.

I thought Mike Richards was pretty good, but there were a lot of odd pauses before he would confirm correct responses.  Haven't yet watched any of the Couric episodes.  I usually "binge" the five episodes for a week over the following weekend.  Given Couric's experience, it's not surprising to hear she's doing well.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on March 11, 2021, 05:56:08 AM
The Jeopardy Executive Producer did a great job during his two weeks filling in as host.

Katie Couric has done well in her two nights.

I thought Mike Richards was pretty good, but there were a lot of odd pauses before he would confirm correct responses.  Haven't yet watched any of the Couric episodes.  I usually "binge" the five episodes for a week over the following weekend.  Given Couric's experience, it's not surprising to hear she's doing well.

I noticed those odd pauses from Ken.....and even from Alex. I think a lot of times there is some interpretation going on as to whether or not an answer is acceptable.....to the point where they need to verify right after the response is given by the contestant. Often they will explain if the answer is in the neighborhood, but still deem it incorrect. But if they allow it as is....often because it's a slight variation.....they won't explain. I think that is the pause.

I would not agree that Couric is doing all that well. She's doing okay. I have seen reactions ranging from "painful" to "comfortable" (which, comfortable to me in this context....is a euphemism for "okay"). Painful is way too harsh.....though she's not exactly dynamic. Does someone need to be dynamic as a host of this show? No. The host should be a facilitator.....not the star. Alex became more of a "star" by proxy and longevity as much as by personality/charm.

I thought Richards was good. I thought Jennings was good. Both moved things along very well....Jennings especially. A lot of that is how fluid of a reader you are.....and Couric reads relatively slowly. Last night they didn't finish a first round......not because of the contestants stalling in between selections or missing a lot of "answers".....rather because of her somewhat languid reading style.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on March 11, 2021, 08:08:20 AM
So, I feel neutered here, since I REALLY don't like Katie Couric as a matter of course, but I didn't really like Ken Jennings all that much either, but I'm turning into a fan.  I liked his stint as host - and would support him getting the job full time - and I've liked him the one or two times I've seen him on The Chase (though Holzauer (sp) is still excruciating to watch). 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on March 11, 2021, 09:19:59 AM
I'm 100% certain that there are times where there are edits between the contestant's response and the host's acknowledgment.  However, I never really noticed the pauses with Alex and didn't notice them with Ken.  I haven't yet watched any of the Couric episodes, so I can't really comment on her performance.

According to things I've read, Jennings has said he doesn't want the permanent job (for whatever reason).  Jennings has both The Chase and Masterminds going on right now.  I think he'll maintain his recent "consulting producer" status.

My guess is that none of the guest hosts will get or are angling to get the job.  I'm guessing that they're doing stuff behind the scenes and that we'll get someone a bit more unknown than any of them.  We shall see.


I've liked him the one or two times I've seen him on The Chase (though Holzauer (sp) is still excruciating to watch). 

I'm curious why you say that.  I think I know, but I don't want to ask a leading question.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on March 11, 2021, 03:19:43 PM
Holzauer?  He just has no personality to me.  I used to watch the old "Chase", with the Beast, Mark Labbett.  When he would sit at the top of the ladder and talk smack it was believable.    When James would talk smack - primarily at the "bid" stage where they decide how many steps the contestant would have to make - it was just... no.  Totally lame and unbelievable.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on March 11, 2021, 06:04:55 PM
Holzauer?  He just has no personality to me.  I used to watch the old "Chase", with the Beast, Mark Labbett.  When he would sit at the top of the ladder and talk smack it was believable.    When James would talk smack - primarily at the "bid" stage where they decide how many steps the contestant would have to make - it was just... no.  Totally lame and unbelievable.

OK...yeah.  The current version of the Chase is inferior in just about every way.  I love the way Brooke Burns used to root hard for the contestants.  Labbett had WAY more natural personality than any of Jennings, Rutter or Holzauer.  He would talk smack, say "gotcha!" but, at the end of the day, he could be very complimentary to the contestants, and he seemed to genuinely appreciate it when a contestant or team would give him a good challenge and/or beat him.  Of the three current chasers, Rutter has the best personality, but I saw him get absolutely smoked on a recent episode, and it was kind of embarrassing.  Also, Burns and Labbett had great chemistry with each other.  About the only thing I like better about the current version is that the two chasers who aren't playing sit backstage and critique the chaser's performance (as well as that of the team).
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on March 11, 2021, 06:05:50 PM
We did get a chuckle seeing the Final Jeopardy category tonight:  Foreign Newspapers. :D

Moving on:  Katie has done just fine on her first ‘day’.  As to not getting to all the clues, she didn’t have to give the ‘one minute warning’ tonight.  Perhaps due to less wrong answers, and less time taken by contestants to pick a category and amount.  It is grating how they jump from one category to another to another AND then often hesitate while doing so.  Not that any of these happened when Alex was host  ;)

My biggest pet peeve of contestants, and often why not all the clues are revealed, is also due to contestants. Envision a category titled ‘Official Dream Theater Studio Albums With Mike Mangini As Drummer’.
 
Some contestants will request “Dream Theater for $400” or “Albums For $400”.  But then... too often you end up getting contestants like last night’s defending champ, who will say “Official Dream Theater Studio Albums With Mike Mangini As Drummer for $400”.  They will even do so when it’s the last category left.  And then they’ll say the entire category title again for the next clue. :facepalm:

I wouldn’t mind if they find a group of hosts and rotate them every month for the next year.  Or two.  I'd like to see Richards and Jennings come back for a month at a time.  And Couric probably did better on her second day that week. 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on March 11, 2021, 06:17:58 PM
My biggest pet peeve of contestants, and often why not all the clues are revealed, is also due to contestants. Envision a category titled ‘Official Dream Theater Studio Albums With Mike Mangini As Drummer’.
 
Some contestants will request “Dream Theater for $400” or “Albums For $400”.  But then... too often you end up getting contestants like last night’s defending champ, who will say “Official Dream Theater Studio Albums With Mike Mangini As Drummer for $400”.  They will even do so when it’s the last category left.  And then they’ll say the entire category title again for the next clue. :facepalm:

The last time I attended the actual in-person audition, the contestant coordinator made this very point:  the FIRST time you call for a particular category, say the entire category name, but after that, shorten the name.  She said that she runs through the same instructions with the actual contestants on filming days and during breaks in filming.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on March 12, 2021, 10:10:31 AM
My biggest pet peeve of contestants, and often why not all the clues are revealed, is also due to contestants. Envision a category titled ‘Official Dream Theater Studio Albums With Mike Mangini As Drummer’.
 
Some contestants will request “Dream Theater for $400” or “Albums For $400”.  But then... too often you end up getting contestants like last night’s defending champ, who will say “Official Dream Theater Studio Albums With Mike Mangini As Drummer for $400”.  They will even do so when it’s the last category left.  And then they’ll say the entire category title again for the next clue. :facepalm:

The last time I attended the actual in-person audition, the contestant coordinator made this very point:  the FIRST time you call for a particular category, say the entire category name, but after that, shorten the name.  She said that she runs through the same instructions with the actual contestants on filming days and during breaks in filming.

See, I understand the shorthand, but my pet peeve is too far the other way.    Start out "Official Dream Theater Studio Albums With Mike Mangini As Drummer for $400, Alex”, then everything after is a brusque, curt "$600" or "$800", without barely a reference to the category.  I get it, I do, but there's a line for me.  Then again, I've never been on one of these shows, so what do I know?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Orbert on March 12, 2021, 04:00:10 PM
Maybe they're just nervous because they're on a "live" TV game show, and just read the entire category anyway, because some people just do that.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on March 24, 2021, 05:18:23 PM
Had no idea until Monday night that Dr. Quack was going to be the guest host.  Well, the wife and I will have to find something else to do the next couple of weeks.

Guess we're not the only ones who are upset.

https://www.salon.com/2021/03/24/backlash-to-dr-oz-hosting-jeopardy-grows-past-contestants-protest-angry-fans-call-for-boycott/
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on March 25, 2021, 09:45:26 AM
Had no idea until Monday night that Dr. Quack was going to be the guest host.  Well, the wife and I will have to find something else to do the next couple of weeks.

Guess we're not the only ones who are upset.

https://www.salon.com/2021/03/24/backlash-to-dr-oz-hosting-jeopardy-grows-past-contestants-protest-angry-fans-call-for-boycott/

A bunch of folks whined about Katie Couric too.  I thought she was fine, although I liked her the least of the three I've seen so far).  I haven't watched this week's episodes yet, but if whoever this guy is does a decent job hosting, I couldn't give a rip about what he did or said outside of the context of the show.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 25, 2021, 09:50:45 AM
You aren't familiar with Dr. Oz?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on March 25, 2021, 09:53:33 AM
I am familiar with Dr. Oz (though not a fan; his daughter on the other hand...), and I'm with PG.  I have as many problems with Anderson Cooper and Katie Couric being host as Dr. Oz.  This sort of arbitrary "vetting" is ridiculous.  If you (general, not you Hef, or DragonAttack) have a problem, make your point and move on. 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on March 25, 2021, 10:21:37 AM
You aren't familiar with Dr. Oz?

I'm familiar with the name, but that's about it.  I know more about Dr. Ruth, Dr. Laura and Dr. Phil than I know about Dr. Oz.


Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 25, 2021, 12:13:09 PM
I am familiar with Dr. Oz (though not a fan; his daughter on the other hand...), and I'm with PG.  I have as many problems with Anderson Cooper and Katie Couric being host as Dr. Oz.  This sort of arbitrary "vetting" is ridiculous.  If you (general, not you Hef, or DragonAttack) have a problem, make your point and move on.
Man, it's good that I didn't have a real point!  :)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on March 25, 2021, 12:41:30 PM
I am familiar with Dr. Oz (though not a fan; his daughter on the other hand...), and I'm with PG.  I have as many problems with Anderson Cooper and Katie Couric being host as Dr. Oz.  This sort of arbitrary "vetting" is ridiculous.  If you (general, not you Hef, or DragonAttack) have a problem, make your point and move on.
Man, it's good that I didn't have a real point!  :)

I didn't think you did (I mean that nicely).  I was venting generally; it's Jeopardy for pete's sake.  There was all this judgment in that article about what "Jeopardy" stood for, and it made me upset.  For me, what Jeopardy stood for was checking all that shit at the door.  No one asks whether you're pro-science or anti-science or pro-Trump or pro-Biden or any of that to join Jeopardy club.  JUst... can you answer the questions in the form of a question.  Period.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 25, 2021, 01:52:53 PM
Yep, I get that.  I mean, I've heard some weird things about Oz, but I think all of this is really overblown.

Just like everything else.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Architeuthis on March 25, 2021, 05:23:40 PM
Weird Al should be the new host since he "Lost on Jeopardy".  🤪
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on March 25, 2021, 11:25:12 PM
for the record, I'm disappointed at the Anderson Cooper choice. 

The future ex guest host is a phony TV doctor dishing out phony advice.  And he's so smug in dispensing some of the BS.  I felt that way about way before the last couple of years.

Soils the integrity of the show.  Wish they could find a Dick Enberg, pleasing to all, and stop the silly nonsense. 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: ZirconBlue on March 26, 2021, 11:52:25 AM


for the record, I'm disappointed at the Anderson Cooper choice. 

The future ex guest host is a phony TV doctor dishing out phony advice.  And he's so smug in dispensing some of the BS.  I felt that way about way before the last couple of years.

Soils the integrity of the show.  Wish they could find a Dick Enberg, pleasing to all, and stop the silly nonsense.



Worse, he's a REAL doctor giving bad medical advice.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on March 29, 2021, 10:15:36 AM
I watched last week's Jeopardy! episodes.  I thought Dr. Oz was pretty good.  Definitely better than Katie Couric.  So far, I've liked Ken Jennings best, but Mike Richards and Dr. Oz are only a step behind.  It's interesting that it now seems like the whole guest host thing is being used as a way for the producers to make charitable donations.  Of course, that assumes it will continue with the subsequent guest hosts.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: T-ski on April 05, 2021, 05:07:42 PM
Rodgers dry persona is not the best fit as host.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 06, 2021, 08:28:44 AM
Rodgers dry persona is not the best fit as host.
Yeah, he was funny a couple of times, but overall seemed a little stiff.

Nerves?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Dream Team on April 06, 2021, 12:00:17 PM
Rodgers dry persona is not the best fit as host.

Alex was pretty dry.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: T-ski on April 06, 2021, 02:57:23 PM
Rodgers dry persona is not the best fit as host.

Alex was pretty dry.

True, maybe too monotone would be a better description.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on April 07, 2021, 07:45:15 AM
But that was the beauty of Alex Trebek.   He wasn't boring, nor was he lacking in personality.  He just knew the show wasn't about him, it was about the players and their knowledge.   That's the sort of irony about the guest hosting; it puts an emphasis on the host that hasn't been there for decades.   I think that's why, of all the hosts I've seen (and I haven't seen all of them, for sure) I like Ken Jennings the most; he seemed to get that essence the best.  I wonder if he talked to Alex about that?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on April 19, 2021, 10:24:53 PM
I can't judge his predecessor, as we avoided those two weeks, but Rodgers was a very good host.  I read an interview where he was close to keeping 'Alex time' (very few edits).  He had a good voice, had a good wit, and was very relaxed.  Good but not great during the interviews, but that's not his forte. 

I wasn't keen at all about Anderson Cooper when I heard the news.  It was only his first night, and it takes a few as a viewer to get used to new voices, but he was quite good.  And interviewing is a natural for him. 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on April 20, 2021, 09:20:08 AM
I can't judge his predecessor, as we avoided those two weeks, but Rodgers was a very good host.

For my money, Rodgers was easily the worst of the guest hosts.  That's not to say he was bad, but he shouldn't quit his day job.  His first episode was so bad, I actually considered not watching the rest, but he did improve.  To the very end, however, he would trail off when he wasn't quite sure how to end a thought.

My "rankings" so far:

Jennings
Richards/Oz
Couric
Rodgers

I'll watch this week's guy over the weekend.  I don't know most of the upcoming guest hosts.  I suspect Buzzy Cohen will be pretty good, although I wasn't a huge fan of him as a contestant.  I'll be interested to see how Mayim Bialik does, and they recently announced that Joe Buck will do a stint over the summer, which should be very good.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on April 20, 2021, 09:54:25 AM
I can't judge his predecessor, as we avoided those two weeks, but Rodgers was a very good host.

For my money, Rodgers was easily the worst of the guest hosts.  That's not to say he was bad, but he shouldn't quit his day job.  His first episode was so bad, I actually considered not watching the rest, but he did improve.  To the very end, however, he would trail off when he wasn't quite sure how to end a thought.

My "rankings" so far:

Jennings
Richards/Oz
Couric
Rodgers

I'll watch this week's guy over the weekend.  I don't know most of the upcoming guest hosts.  I suspect Buzzy Cohen will be pretty good, although I wasn't a huge fan of him as a contestant.  I'll be interested to see how Mayim Bialik does, and they recently announced that Joe Buck will do a stint over the summer, which should be very good.

With the proviso that I LOVE Joe Buck, both as a broadcaster and a personality (he's good on Stern), I worry.  He's good on Stern because he's honest and he's self-aware; he knows he's playing a game with Howard and he plays along.   I would hope that he would bring that self-awareness to Jeopardy, and adjust to the circumstances as opposed to making the circumstances adjust to him.    He's also not shy, which could go either way.  I have no idea who Buzzy Cohen is, and I have little interest in Mayim Bialik. 

I didn't see Oz, but I agree with your rankings otherwise.   Not that Aaron did badly - I don't think he did - he's just not at Ken Jennings' level (and he needs a new hairdo!).
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on April 20, 2021, 01:39:33 PM
Buzzy Cohen was a 9-time champion back in 2016 (and, according to Wikipedia, a music industry executive).  He returned for a tournament of champions and an all-star tournament.  He had a style that lots of folks liked but which also rubbed some the wrong way.

I also love Joe Buck as an announcer.  I wouldn't consume any Howard Stern-related product unless you paid me, so I don't know about the rest of what you mentioned.

Rodgers was so very, very monotone his first day.  He did improve, but some of his interactions with contestants were AWKWARD.  I only wished I had understood the field goal reference the first day.  Having to google to figure out what they were talking about caused it to lose any potential for humor.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on April 21, 2021, 01:35:28 PM
Jeopardy! just announced the remaining guest hosts:

Anderson Cooper (Apr. 19-30)
Bill Whitaker (May 3-14)
Buzzy Cohen (May 17-28 - Tournament of Champions)
Mayim Bialik (May 31 - June 11)
Savannah Guthrie (June 14-25)
Sanjay Gupta (June 28 - July 9)
George Stephanopoulos (July 12-16)
Robin Roberts (July 19-23)
Lavar Burton (July 26-30)
David Faber (August 2-6)
Joe Buck (August 9-13)

It's not clear why the last five are only getting one week each.  Also, it looks like only those last five have yet to be recorded.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on April 21, 2021, 01:56:40 PM
Jeopardy! just announced the remaining guest hosts:

Anderson Cooper (Apr. 19-30)
Bill Whitaker (May 3-14)
Buzzy Cohen (May 17-28 - Tournament of Champions)
Mayim Bialik (May 31 - June 11)
Savannah Guthrie (June 14-25)
Sanjay Gupta (June 28 - July 9)
George Stephanopoulos (July 12-16)
Robin Roberts (July 19-23)
Lavar Burton (July 26-30)
David Faber (August 2-6)
Joe Buck (August 9-13)

It's not clear why the last five are only getting one week each.  Also, it looks like only those last five have yet to be recorded.

WOW.  Other than Joe Buck and maybe Lavar Burton, I have zero interest in ANY of those.  Not that I care (but since some had a problem with Dr. Oz), but it's a rather... liberal crowd.   :)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on April 21, 2021, 02:35:33 PM
A lot of folks on Facebook seem to have a huge chubby about Lavar Burton.  No idea why.  Mayim Bialik and Joe Buck are the only ones I care about, but I'll watch them all.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Cool Chris on April 21, 2021, 09:14:16 PM
Should I know who these people are?

Bill Whitaker (May 3-14)
Savannah Guthrie (June 14-25)
David Faber (August 2-6)

Just checked, they are journalists. So... no, there is no reason I should.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 22, 2021, 07:31:42 AM
A lot of folks on Facebook seem to have a huge chubby about Lavar Burton.  No idea why. 
Because he hosted Reading Rainbow.  Nostalgia.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Orbert on April 22, 2021, 09:25:31 AM
That was my take as well.  LeVar Burton comes across as intelligent yet personable, which is key to hosting a show like this.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on April 22, 2021, 09:53:50 AM
Should I know who these people are?

Bill Whitaker (May 3-14)
Savannah Guthrie (June 14-25)
David Faber (August 2-6)


Don't know, but I didn't know either.


A lot of folks on Facebook seem to have a huge chubby about Lavar Burton.  No idea why. 
Because he hosted Reading Rainbow.  Nostalgia.

I get that, but the Jeopardy fans on Facebook tend to skew older, and Reading Rainbow didn't debut until 1983.  I'd never heard of it, but maybe it's parents of kids who were watching it in the '80s.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on April 22, 2021, 09:59:53 AM
Honestly, I know him from his acting more than anything, and even that is mostly from his rather funny guest appearances on Big Bang Theory. 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on April 22, 2021, 10:07:18 AM
Honestly, I know him from his acting more than anything, and even that is mostly from his rather funny guest appearances on Big Bang Theory.

Same.  Kunta Kinte on Roots (I didn't watch, but it was a big deal in the late '70s), Lafarge on Star Trek, and cameos on BBT.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 22, 2021, 02:24:16 PM
Should I know who these people are?

Bill Whitaker (May 3-14)
Savannah Guthrie (June 14-25)
David Faber (August 2-6)


Don't know, but I didn't know either.


A lot of folks on Facebook seem to have a huge chubby about Lavar Burton.  No idea why. 
Because he hosted Reading Rainbow.  Nostalgia.

I get that, but the Jeopardy fans on Facebook tend to skew older, and Reading Rainbow didn't debut until 1983.  I'd never heard of it, but maybe it's parents of kids who were watching it in the '80s.
Or older siblings.  Like, I didn't WATCH IT watch it, I was too old, but I was aware of it, and I knew that he was good at that, because my little brother watched it.  If I didn't know him from Star Trek, I would know him from Reading Rainbow, even though I didn't watch it.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on April 27, 2021, 09:14:51 AM
I watched the first week of Anderson Cooper episodes over the weekend.  He's really good.  Might be supplanting Jennings as my favorite of the guest hosts.

Also, I didn't realize that Mike Richards had hosted a 40-episode season of Pyramid about 10 years ago.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: jingle.boy on April 27, 2021, 02:40:52 PM
I watched the first week of Anderson Cooper episodes over the weekend.  He's really good.  Might be supplanting Jennings as my favorite of the guest hosts.

Also, I didn't realize that Mike Richards had hosted a 40-episode season of Pyramid about 10 years ago.

Mike Richards as in Kramer??
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on April 27, 2021, 03:00:56 PM
I watched the first week of Anderson Cooper episodes over the weekend.  He's really good.  Might be supplanting Jennings as my favorite of the guest hosts.

Also, I didn't realize that Mike Richards had hosted a 40-episode season of Pyramid about 10 years ago.

Mike Richards as in Kramer??

This guy:  (https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BODViMzFmZDQtYWFmMS00YTQ2LWI2YjYtMDJjZDg0NTcxNmIwXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyODQwNjgyMw@@._V1_.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 28, 2021, 08:12:12 AM
Finally caught Anderson Cooper hosting last night.

Wow, he was great.  Best I've seen of the guest hosts.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on April 28, 2021, 08:47:01 AM
Finally caught Anderson Cooper hosting last night.

Wow, he was great.  Best I've seen of the guest hosts.

I watched last night too; he WAS good.   he's got the perfect cadence and delivery.

Haha, for the life of me I can't remember the question or the celebrity, but there was one question that no one got right and I was thinking "man, if [celebrity who was the subject of the question] saw that, it HAD to be a rude awakening!"   I wish I could remember the name, because I immediately thought it would be funny to post here.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on April 28, 2021, 09:55:46 AM
I think Cooper was fine except for the delays in the acknowledging of the answers by the contestants (or I guess I should say questions). He seems very comfortable....as he should since he's an interviewer and tv personality already. I think that's something that gets lost in the assessment of Rogers. It's like a figure skater going on Dancing with the Stars vs a football player on either show.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on April 28, 2021, 10:25:10 AM
Is there a site that has each episode and the answers/questions?   I tried searching but I'm at work and the filter is unreliable.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hunnus2000 on April 28, 2021, 10:37:28 AM
Joe Buck is scheduled to be a guest host. The guy is hilarious so it will be fun when it's his turn.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on April 28, 2021, 11:44:58 AM
Is there a site that has each episode and the answers/questions?   I tried searching but I'm at work and the filter is unreliable.

j-archive.com (apparently maintained by someone very fond of how the internet looked around the turn of the century).
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Dream Team on May 02, 2021, 06:06:39 AM
Jboard.tv is a really good jeopardy message board.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on May 03, 2021, 12:18:28 PM
I watched the first week of Anderson Cooper episodes over the weekend.  He's really good.  Might be supplanting Jennings as my favorite of the guest hosts.

I was less impressed with Cooper's second week, but he was still really good overall.

Onto another news guy I've never heard of.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on May 29, 2021, 06:07:44 PM
Enjoyed the recent tournament of champions. I thought Buzzy was very good as a host.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on May 30, 2021, 03:22:48 PM
Not surprisingly, all the hosts have ranged from good to very good.  I'm not sure I'd describe anyone as "great."

I'll be interested to see what Mayim Bialik is like.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on June 03, 2021, 10:10:04 AM
This is tangentially related to Jeopardy!

The Chase is a game show in which three contestants compete against a "trivia master" referred to as "the chaser."  I believe it was originally a British show, but it was on Game Show Network in the early to mid-2010s with a "chaser" named Mark Labbett (aka "The Beast").  The show was recently resurrected on ABC (with commensurately higher prize money).  In the fist season, they had Jeopardy! legends Ken Jennings, Brad Rutter and James Holzhauer take turns as "the chaser" (each with a silly nickname).  The second season premieres this week with Mark Labbett added to the cast as a fourth "chaser."

As a side note, Labbett is 6'6" and, at the time of the original U.S. version, weighed close to 400#.  He has since apparently dropped about 200#.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on June 03, 2021, 12:47:55 PM
This is tangentially related to Jeopardy!

The Chase is a game show in which three contestants compete against a "trivia master" referred to as "the chaser."  I believe it was originally a British show, but it was on Game Show Network in the early to mid-2010s with a "chaser" named Mark Labbett (aka "The Beast").  The show was recently resurrected on ABC (with commensurately higher prize money).  In the fist season, they had Jeopardy! legends Ken Jennings, Brad Rutter and James Holzhauer take turns as "the chaser" (each with a silly nickname).  The second season premieres this week with Mark Labbett added to the cast as a fourth "chaser."

As a side note, Labbett is 6'6" and, at the time of the original U.S. version, weighed close to 400#.  He has since apparently dropped about 200#.

I love the Beast!   If he's on there, I will watch.  Holzhauer appeared on that GSN version of The Chase; Labbett said it was his fiercest competitor.  The magnificent Brook Burns was the host of that show.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Chino on June 03, 2021, 12:54:03 PM
I'd like to see a reboot of Beat the Geeks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7h5SeipT0c
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on June 03, 2021, 01:04:32 PM
This is tangentially related to Jeopardy!

The Chase is a game show in which three contestants compete against a "trivia master" referred to as "the chaser."  I believe it was originally a British show, but it was on Game Show Network in the early to mid-2010s with a "chaser" named Mark Labbett (aka "The Beast").  The show was recently resurrected on ABC (with commensurately higher prize money).  In the fist season, they had Jeopardy! legends Ken Jennings, Brad Rutter and James Holzhauer take turns as "the chaser" (each with a silly nickname).  The second season premieres this week with Mark Labbett added to the cast as a fourth "chaser."

As a side note, Labbett is 6'6" and, at the time of the original U.S. version, weighed close to 400#.  He has since apparently dropped about 200#.

I love the Beast!   If he's on there, I will watch.  Holzhauer appeared on that GSN version of The Chase; Labbett said it was his fiercest competitor.  The magnificent Brook Burns was the host of that show.

I've been a Brooke Burns fan since the early 2000s.  She hosted a show called Dog Eat Dog that was a lot of fun.

As you may know, Ken Jennings also has a show on GSN called Master Minds, which is hosted by...you guessed it, Brooke Burns (The ABC version of The Chase is being hosted by a woman named Sara Haines, who doesn't have nearly the rapport with her "chasers" that Brooke and Mark had).  On that show, three contestants compete against each other, while three "masterminds" compete against each other on the same questions.  At the end, the top contestant and the top "mastermind" compete head-to-head.  Two of the "masterminds" other than Jennings are Muffy Something-or-Other and Jonathan What's-His-Name.  Both of them were also contestants on the GSN version of The Chase (in Muffy's case, twice).  The cross-pollination of questions between The Chase, Master Minds and Jeopardy! is interesting.


I'd like to see a reboot of Beat the Geeks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7h5SeipT0c

I LOVED that show!  Kinda surprised they haven't rebooted it.  The Music Geek looked like an amalgamation of a bunch of famous rock stars, including Steve Harris and RJD.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Dream Team on June 04, 2021, 08:01:16 PM
That is one annoying beotch that has won the last 2 nights. Her idiotic facial expressions have gone viral already.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on June 05, 2021, 10:02:47 PM
That is one annoying beotch that has won the last 2 nights. Her idiotic facial expressions have gone viral already.

I've only watched last Monday's episode so far.  I thought Mayim Bialik did a good job, but it's REALLY hard not to think of it as Amy Farrah Fowler from Big Bang Theory doing Jeopardy!  Almost makes me wish Jim Parsons (as Sheldon Cooper) would do a week).   :lol
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on June 07, 2021, 10:22:57 AM
That is one annoying beotch that has won the last 2 nights. Her idiotic facial expressions have gone viral already.

I've only watched last Monday's episode so far.  I thought Mayim Bialik did a good job, but it's REALLY hard not to think of it as Amy Farrah Fowler from Big Bang Theory doing Jeopardy!  Almost makes me wish Jim Parsons (as Sheldon Cooper) would do a week).   :lol

I watched the rest of the Mayim Bialik episodes.  She's good, but I just can't get past the impression that this is Amy from BBT hosting Jeopardy!

Also, I really dig the current champ.  It's nice to see someone on the show with some personality.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: T-ski on June 08, 2021, 08:04:23 AM
That is one annoying beotch that has won the last 2 nights. Her idiotic facial expressions have gone viral already.

I've only watched last Monday's episode so far.  I thought Mayim Bialik did a good job, but it's REALLY hard not to think of it as Amy Farrah Fowler from Big Bang Theory doing Jeopardy!  Almost makes me wish Jim Parsons (as Sheldon Cooper) would do a week).   :lol

I watched the rest of the Mayim Bialik episodes.  She's good, but I just can't get past the impression that this is Amy from BBT hosting Jeopardy!

Also, I really dig the current champ.  It's nice to see someone on the show with some personality.

pg, what’s your status on your attempt to get on the show?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on June 13, 2021, 05:13:38 PM
That is one annoying beotch that has won the last 2 nights. Her idiotic facial expressions have gone viral already.



Also, I really dig the current champ.  It's nice to see someone on the show with some personality.

I agree, I thought she was awesome/hilarious. Her facial expressions seemed genuinely connected to what she was thinking/feeling. I didn't think anything she was doing seemed contrived whatsoever....just a different, refreshing personality. Plus, she was really enjoying herself....smiling most of the time. And smart as a whip.....I didn't see or hear annoying or idiotic.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on July 20, 2021, 09:45:16 AM
That is one annoying beotch that has won the last 2 nights. Her idiotic facial expressions have gone viral already.

I've only watched last Monday's episode so far.  I thought Mayim Bialik did a good job, but it's REALLY hard not to think of it as Amy Farrah Fowler from Big Bang Theory doing Jeopardy!  Almost makes me wish Jim Parsons (as Sheldon Cooper) would do a week).   :lol

I watched the rest of the Mayim Bialik episodes.  She's good, but I just can't get past the impression that this is Amy from BBT hosting Jeopardy!

Also, I really dig the current champ.  It's nice to see someone on the show with some personality.

pg, what’s your status on your attempt to get on the show?

I overlooked this last month.

In a little over an hour, I will be "participat[ing] in the final part of the Jeopardy! audition process that will consist of playing a 'mock version' of Jeopardy! to assess your game-playing skills."  Not quite sure how this is going to work over Zoom, but wish me luck!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on July 20, 2021, 01:13:50 PM
Best of luck!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on July 20, 2021, 01:38:10 PM
So...I think it went pretty well.  There were 9 people, and they split us into groups of three for a mock game.  Then they did a little interview to ask about ourselves and what we'd do with the money if we won a lot.  We're all in the "contestant pool" for the next 18 months, so I'll either get a call to be on the show sometime before the end of 2022 or the time will pass and I'll hear nothing.

At the end, they asked if we had any questions, and no one said anything, so I asked if they knew who the new host would be.  Their answer was that we (i.e., the general public) will probably know before they do.

Waiting...waiting....
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on July 20, 2021, 01:40:21 PM
So...I think it went pretty well.  There were 9 people, and they split us into groups of three for a mock game.  Then they did a little interview to ask about ourselves and what we'd do with the money if we won a lot.  We're all in the "contestant pool" for the next 18 months, so I'll either get a call to be on the show sometime before the end of 2022 or the time will pass and I'll hear nothing.

At the end, they asked if we had any questions, and no one said anything, so I asked if they knew who the new host would be.  Their answer was that we (i.e., the general public) will probably know before they do.

Waiting...waiting....
:tup
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Cool Chris on July 25, 2021, 08:35:10 PM
Nice.

Didn't TempusVox have a tryout once too? I feel like someone here did at one point in time.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: T-ski on July 26, 2021, 03:03:29 PM
So...I think it went pretty well.  There were 9 people, and they split us into groups of three for a mock game.  Then they did a little interview to ask about ourselves and what we'd do with the money if we won a lot.  We're all in the "contestant pool" for the next 18 months, so I'll either get a call to be on the show sometime before the end of 2022 or the time will pass and I'll hear nothing.

At the end, they asked if we had any questions, and no one said anything, so I asked if they knew who the new host would be.  Their answer was that we (i.e., the general public) will probably know before they do.

Waiting...waiting....

Good to hear, hope your phone rings.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on July 27, 2021, 09:29:27 AM
Thanks, guys.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on July 27, 2021, 09:55:28 AM
Benefit of the doubt after just one day.....however, Levar Burton (so far) was not "born to host Jeopardy" (as he put it). He's definitely personable enough, but seemed a bit awkward in the question to the contestants section. He seemed nervous at the beginning, and that seemed to set a tone for a somewhat disjointed game. He also mispronounced a couple of (key) words that related to the questions/answers.....something where the host needs to do his due diligence proactively.

Not terrible by any means, just not as good as.....let's say even Robin Roberts was last week. And I thought she was about average technically (reading fluently, pronouncing words correctly, moving the game along, etc.).....and then above average in the personality area (responses to questions of contestants, comfort in front of the camera, genuine enthusiasm).

Maybe he will settle down a bit as the week goes along. To be fair, it's probably even more difficult for someone who thought they would be perfect for the role....perhaps only to discover there's more to it than originally thought?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on July 27, 2021, 10:10:18 AM
I "follow" the Jeopardy page on FB, and a LOT of folks there have been creaming in their shorts in anticipation of Burton hosting.  From what I read, he admitted he didn't do well on his first show but thought he improved on the other four shows.  I'll reserve judgment until I watch his episodes (although I thought about watching last night's episode when it was on rather than wait for the weekend to watch all five, which is what I usually do).

I was NOT a fan of Robin Roberts.  She and Aaron Rodgers are the two that I definitely wouldn't want as a permanent host.  I found Rodgers to be very low-energy and monotone, and Roberts was on the other end of the scale -- a bit two excited.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on July 27, 2021, 02:38:13 PM
Last night's show had the record LOW total for a contestant.  He just seemed a bit too nervous.

Burton was OK, but it was show #1.  I had not warmed to the thought of him being the permanent host, because I felt there was way too much hoopla.  Well, even with just one show, I can see it.  I can sense already that I'll be more than fine with him.

I am sooooo far behind posting here, but Dr. Sanjay Gupta has been the best hands down.  Good voice, good interviewer, good host, etc.   Mike Richards, Anderson Cooper, and Buzzy Cohen (surprisingly) at the next tier.  I liked Aaron Rodgers.

Sadly, Mayim Bialik was way too giddy and silly, as were a couple of her contestants.  I didn't care for her interjections of 'that's where I went to school' or, 'yup, my grandma played that game'.   Bill Whitaker and Savannah Guthrie were often shocked that the contestants answered correctly (uh, this is 'Jeopardy', correct? :facepalm:).  Guthrie must have excitedly said 'You got it!' 15x a show the first week.  And yes, Robin Roberts was disappointing, had too much caffeine and was way too bubbly.  But I will give her a pass:  she only did the one 'week', and any cancer survivor can generally do anything they damn well please in my book.

Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on July 27, 2021, 10:03:23 PM
So...I think it went pretty well.  There were 9 people, and they split us into groups of three for a mock game.  Then they did a little interview to ask about ourselves and what we'd do with the money if we won a lot.  We're all in the "contestant pool" for the next 18 months, so I'll either get a call to be on the show sometime before the end of 2022 or the time will pass and I'll hear nothing.

At the end, they asked if we had any questions, and no one said anything, so I asked if they knew who the new host would be.  Their answer was that we (i.e., the general public) will probably know before they do.

Waiting...waiting....

So curious as to the mock game.  How many categories/clues?  The 'full gamut'?  So impressed with your accomplishment.  I figure I'd get a full Cliff Klavin 'right down the middle' categories, or nothing but Shakespeare, or African and South American countries, geography, and history, that I'd end up with my left elbow on the podium holding up my head, while I scream, 'ask me the state capital of Cleveland!'......
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on July 28, 2021, 11:14:52 AM
So curious as to the mock game.  How many categories/clues?  The 'full gamut'?  So impressed with your accomplishment.  I figure I'd get a full Cliff Klavin 'right down the middle' categories, or nothing but Shakespeare, or African and South American countries, geography, and history, that I'd end up with my left elbow on the podium holding up my head, while I scream, 'ask me the state capital of Cleveland!'......

By way of perspective, I've been to the live audition a few times, and here's what usually happens there:  To get to the live audition, you have to pass the online test (50 questions).  At the live audition, you show up and fill out a personal bio form and get a Polaroid picture taken.  You then go into a room and take another 50 question test (same as the online test, except instead of typing in answers, you write them on a sheet of paper).  After that, they bring 3 people at a time to the front of the room and give everyone a buzzer.  They then give you a half board:  six categories, but only the $200, $400 and $600 clues (and no daily doubles).  They pick someone to go first, and you play for about five minutes.  Even though you're using buzzers so they know who buzzes in first, they will call on everyone roughly equally to get a sense of how you come across.  They then do brief interviews (where are you from, what do you do for a living and for fun, and what would you do with the money if you win?).  In the live auditions, there were usually about eight groups of three.

In the Zoom audition I did, there were nine people (so three groups of three).  It was otherwise almost exactly the same as a live audition.  The difference, of course, is that there were no buzzers.  They had us hold pens next to our heads so they could see who was buzzing in.  One guy in my group was blind, so they actually had a verbal cue to tell him when to start "buzzing in."  The only particular categories I remember from my part of the game was one relating to U.S. history and another relating to the Simpsons.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: ZirconBlue on July 28, 2021, 11:16:20 AM


Quote
Burton: I had, like all of the hosts, one day of rehearsal and the following day I shot five episodes of ‘Jeopardy!’ I came backstage after taping the first episode and I said to Stephanie, ‘Well, how did I do?’ She said, ‘Ehhh.’ Now, this is a woman who loves me enough to tell me the truth. She said it wasn’t me.

AP: How did you adjust?

Burton: I made it my business for the next four chances at bat to just be myself, to forget about the procedure, to forget about the process, stop trying, stop focusing on the wrong thing. You’re not going to be smooth as Alex, let go of that. But what you can bring to the table is you. So that became my point of focus. And when it did, I started having fun.

Source (https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/levar-burton-jeopardy-host-gig-began-scary-ended-fun/)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on July 31, 2021, 06:27:57 PM
I watched the five Burton episodes earlier today.  The first one was easily the worst of any of the guest hosts.  He improved (and might have continued improving if he'd had a second week), but he is pretty easily at the bottom of my guest host rankings.

It's funny because there was a significant contingent of Jeopardy fans on social media who were ready to hire him as the permanent host without ever seeing him do an episode.  I have to wonder how they feel now.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on August 04, 2021, 05:51:05 AM
I watched the five Burton episodes earlier today.  The first one was easily the worst of any of the guest hosts.  He improved (and might have continued improving if he'd had a second week), but he is pretty easily at the bottom of my guest host rankings.

It's funny because there was a significant contingent of Jeopardy fans on social media who were ready to hire him as the permanent host without ever seeing him do an episode.  I have to wonder how they feel now.

I think they are fanboys and still thought he did an amazing job. I'm sure he would improve and do well as a permanent host, but evaluating his week vs everyone else.....definitely in the lower half for me as well. 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on August 04, 2021, 05:54:01 AM
How about this guy, Matt? He's already in the top 10 highest earners on the show. He said he never wanted to try out for Jeopardy, because he thought he would suck at it! His dad had to encourage him to give it a try. Guessing he's going to take care of his dad with some of these winnings!

A lot of people are up in arms about his tendency to use "what" in place of "who". It is a little off-putting, but many are calling him the most annoying contestant ever. Guessing those people are not daily viewers!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on August 04, 2021, 08:14:33 AM
How about this guy, Matt? He's already in the top 10 highest earners on the show. He said he never wanted to try out for Jeopardy, because he thought he would suck at it! His dad had to encourage him to give it a try. Guessing he's going to take care of his dad with some of these winnings!

A lot of people are up in arms about his tendency to use "what" in place of "who". It is a little off-putting, but many are calling him the most annoying contestant ever. Guessing those people are not daily viewers!

Yeah, I admit it is like fingernails on a chalkboard to hear this extremely intelligent guy use improper grammar but all in all, I like him and it's been great to see him play so well.

But I have no idea who this current host is. 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on August 04, 2021, 09:27:11 AM
How about this guy, Matt? He's already in the top 10 highest earners on the show. He said he never wanted to try out for Jeopardy, because he thought he would suck at it! His dad had to encourage him to give it a try. Guessing he's going to take care of his dad with some of these winnings!

A lot of people are up in arms about his tendency to use "what" in place of "who". It is a little off-putting, but many are calling him the most annoying contestant ever. Guessing those people are not daily viewers!

Yeah, I admit it is like fingernails on a chalkboard to hear this extremely intelligent guy use improper grammar but all in all, I like him and it's been great to see him play so well.

But I have no idea who this current host is. 
Current host is a business/market analyst/anchor on CNBC. I actually think he's doing a pretty good job, despite the anonymity among viewers.

 Also, here's some clarification on Matt's answering controversy. https://www.jeopardy.com/jbuzz/behind-scenes/what-are-some-questions-about-jeopardy
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on August 04, 2021, 10:22:47 AM
HAHAHA!  "The Who" is a legit answer!  That's cool.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on August 04, 2021, 11:41:17 AM
How about this guy, Matt? He's already in the top 10 highest earners on the show. He said he never wanted to try out for Jeopardy, because he thought he would suck at it! His dad had to encourage him to give it a try. Guessing he's going to take care of his dad with some of these winnings!

A lot of people are up in arms about his tendency to use "what" in place of "who". It is a little off-putting, but many are calling him the most annoying contestant ever. Guessing those people are not daily viewers!

I've seen a bunch of this on Facebook and it just cracks me up.  There are even people saying things like, "Alex never would have permitted this."  "He would have given him a warning to use the correct pronoun."  There were even people complaining that he buzzes in and takes a bit of time before giving the answer.  "Alex would have hurried him along."  Ummm...no.  The best thing is that former Jeopardy contestants are smacking these people down.  The rules (which are read to the contestants and discussed before they're played -- they're even discussed during contestant searches) expressly say that the specific question doesn't matter.  You can use any question as long as you answer in the form of a question.  "When is Pink Floyd?" would be a perfectly correct response.

But I get bored with dominant champions after bout 5-8 games, so....
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on August 04, 2021, 03:26:37 PM
I imagine you have 96 other, more pressing, things to deal with in the moment, but all things being equal, that would be funny, to answer all the questions in the "wrong" way:

"When is The Yangtze River, Alex.  House Parts for $400, Alex."
"Who is a doorknob, Alex.   Russian Literature for $600, Alex."
"Why are Anna Karenina, Alex."

Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on August 04, 2021, 04:33:18 PM
Mike Richards in talks to be permanent host.

https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/mike-richards-jeopardy-host-alex-trebek-1235034673/?fbclid=IwAR06Zl31jTi0kRIIgE7fWuSqq6jO-uT2GoEJ6HHg8_ltdfHOPiLklV9kHmg
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on August 04, 2021, 05:05:37 PM
I imagine you have 96 other, more pressing, things to deal with in the moment, but all things being equal, that would be funny, to answer all the questions in the "wrong" way:

"When is The Yangtze River, Alex.  House Parts for $400, Alex."
"Who is a doorknob, Alex.   Russian Literature for $600, Alex."
"Why are Anna Karenina, Alex."

There was a category a few years back in which all of the correct responses were already in the form of questions.  For example, "This obnoxious song by Baha Men became one of the most pervasive earworms of 2000."  Correct response:  "Who Let the Dogs Out?"  Alex told the contestants when he introduced the category that they did not need to add anything -- e.g., they did not need to response with "What is 'Who Let the Dogs Out?'"  After the first contestant who responded to a clue in the category added the unnecessary "what is," Alex reminded the contestants, but they continued to do so throughout the category; he couldn't get them to stop.

That said, if I actually make it on the show one of these days, I very much intend to take advantage of this rule.


Mike Richards in talks to be permanent host.

https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/mike-richards-jeopardy-host-alex-trebek-1235034673/?fbclid=IwAR06Zl31jTi0kRIIgE7fWuSqq6jO-uT2GoEJ6HHg8_ltdfHOPiLklV9kHmg

Intriguing.  Of course it also says, "A Sony Pictures spokesman said discussions were ongoing with several potential candidates.  He would not comment specifically on Richards’ status.  A source close to the situation cautioned that there’s no certainty that the sides will close a deal and that other candidates remain in the mix, although Richards is clearly the front-runner."

I wonder if the source was speaking out of turn or if it was an intentional release to gauge reaction to the possible hiring of Richards.  If what I've read is any indication, Richards would be a very popular choice.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: SoundscapeMN on August 04, 2021, 09:10:13 PM
this guy Matt, who keeps trouncing the competition is pretty annoying. He definitely ranks up there, maybe only surpassed by Holzhauer.
Almost to the point I'm not sure how much I want to watch. Today's episode was ridiculous; the other 2 contestants had -Negative amounts with only 8 questions left in Double Jeopardy.

Matt even risked a bundle and got the Final Jeopardy question wrong. and won handily.

I really want someone to beat him asap.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on August 05, 2021, 05:58:12 AM
Mike Richards in talks to be permanent host.

https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/mike-richards-jeopardy-host-alex-trebek-1235034673/?fbclid=IwAR06Zl31jTi0kRIIgE7fWuSqq6jO-uT2GoEJ6HHg8_ltdfHOPiLklV9kHmg

Intriguing.  Of course it also says, "A Sony Pictures spokesman said discussions were ongoing with several potential candidates.  He would not comment specifically on Richards’ status.  A source close to the situation cautioned that there’s no certainty that the sides will close a deal and that other candidates remain in the mix, although Richards is clearly the front-runner."

I wonder if the source was speaking out of turn or if it was an intentional release to gauge reaction to the possible hiring of Richards.  If what I've read is any indication, Richards would be a very popular choice.

I'm not thrilled with "Kramer" as host, but if the people want it...

:) :)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: ZirconBlue on August 05, 2021, 07:11:54 AM



Yeah, I admit it is like fingernails on a chalkboard to hear this extremely intelligent guy use improper grammar but all in all, I like him and it's been great to see him play so well.



I think it would bother me less if he said "What is. . ." instead of "What's . . .".
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on August 05, 2021, 11:36:39 AM
Mike Richards in talks to be permanent host.

https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/mike-richards-jeopardy-host-alex-trebek-1235034673/?fbclid=IwAR06Zl31jTi0kRIIgE7fWuSqq6jO-uT2GoEJ6HHg8_ltdfHOPiLklV9kHmg

Intriguing.  Of course it also says, "A Sony Pictures spokesman said discussions were ongoing with several potential candidates.  He would not comment specifically on Richards’ status.  A source close to the situation cautioned that there’s no certainty that the sides will close a deal and that other candidates remain in the mix, although Richards is clearly the front-runner."

I wonder if the source was speaking out of turn or if it was an intentional release to gauge reaction to the possible hiring of Richards.  If what I've read is any indication, Richards would be a very popular choice.

I'm not thrilled with "Kramer" as host, but if the people want it...

:) :)

It'd be cool to have a host who has hoisted Lord Stanley's Cup.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a6/9f/1a/a69f1a45d357fd18c9eec8b95a17aa41.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on August 06, 2021, 09:21:29 AM
I wonder if the source was speaking out of turn or if it was an intentional release to gauge reaction to the possible hiring of Richards.  If what I've read is any indication, Richards would be a very popular choice.

Well, Richards is also an executive producer so I wonder if he is interviewing himself or???

He might be a popular choice for some.  Not all though:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeopardy-host-frontrunner-mike-richards-alleged-history-of-harassment-discrimination
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on August 06, 2021, 09:59:09 AM
I wonder if the source was speaking out of turn or if it was an intentional release to gauge reaction to the possible hiring of Richards.  If what I've read is any indication, Richards would be a very popular choice.

Well, Richards is also an executive producer so I wonder if he is interviewing himself or???

He might be a popular choice for some.  Not all though:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeopardy-host-frontrunner-mike-richards-alleged-history-of-harassment-discrimination

Three people sued.  None of them succeeded.  One "struggled to present sufficient evidence to support [her] claim in court," and another dismissed Richards and then settled with the remaining defendants.  Some Jeopardy fans on social media are whining.  It's unfortunate that this is what passes for journalism these days and that some folks inevitably will read little more than the headline and draw conclusions without knowing all the relevant facts.  And some Jeopardy fans on social media will whine no matter whom they choose.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Cool Chris on August 06, 2021, 06:51:30 PM
The rules (which are read to the contestants and discussed before they're played -- they're even discussed during contestant searches) expressly say that the specific question doesn't matter.

I've always wondered that.

I remember, I think it was Miguel Ferrer, some celebrity responded with something like "The <correct response>, what is it?"
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: SoundscapeMN on August 10, 2021, 05:16:34 PM
passing this week, not a fan of Joe Buck.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on August 10, 2021, 06:08:40 PM
As are we, though he isn't as obnoxious as we thought he would be.  Thought David Faber did a great job as guest host the prior week.

Plus, the current champion has made viewing unenjoyable.  It's like watching the UConn women in the first round of the NCAA tourney, only worse (no point spread to bet on).  We are not watching 'live' anymore, but tuning in 27 minutes into the recording.

A shame they don't let all of these contestants come back and give it another go.  It's why I always wished they would limit winners to ten appearances.

Matt Amodio has gotten a bit full of himself a couple of times by wagering over $30K on 'Final Jeopardy' (and losing).  The only pleasurable moments over these past three weeks. 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on August 11, 2021, 09:17:35 AM
As a Uconn alum, I don't understand that reference.  :) :) :) :)

I'm a fan of Joe Buck, so I will watch this.  He can veer into the snarky, which I'm not a huge fan of, so I hope he plays it straight.   
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on August 11, 2021, 10:44:51 AM
Matt Amodio has gotten a bit full of himself a couple of times by wagering over $30K on 'Final Jeopardy' (and losing).

Meh...if you've got that kind of cushion and feel comfortable with the category, why not push it?  Seems like he's trying to surpass James Holzhauer.  Nothing wrong with that.

I never will understand all the hate that Joe Buck gets, but I'll watch his episodes with open mind, as I have done for all the other guest hosts.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on August 11, 2021, 12:15:45 PM
Interesting...if true:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeopardy-set-to-announce-mayim-bialik-and-mike-richards-splitting-host-duties?fbclid=IwAR1AKt_JwpPKzMZmjPWDRUAL1Wop_67GMYXPAtXFlJPWhbUvH-haaOH7EUg


Mike Richards will host the show, but Mayim Bialik "will host primetime and spin-off specials . . . the first of which will be the Jeopardy! National College Championship on ABC."

I'm completely fine with Richards getting the gig and having spin-offs with Bialik as the host.  I liked Rock & Roll Jeopardy (hosted by Jeff Probst) and Sports Jeopardy (hosted by Dan Patrick).
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 11, 2021, 12:27:40 PM
Interesting...if true:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeopardy-set-to-announce-mayim-bialik-and-mike-richards-splitting-host-duties?fbclid=IwAR1AKt_JwpPKzMZmjPWDRUAL1Wop_67GMYXPAtXFlJPWhbUvH-haaOH7EUg


Mike Richards will host the show, but Mayim Bialik "will host primetime and spin-off specials . . . the first of which will be the Jeopardy! National College Championship on ABC."

I'm completely fine with Richards getting the gig and having spin-offs with Bialik as the host.  I liked Rock & Roll Jeopardy (hosted by Jeff Probst) and Sports Jeopardy (hosted by Dan Patrick).
I've seen it from multiple outlets.

I'm fine with it too.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on August 14, 2021, 01:12:20 PM
Couldn't understand Matt's logic last night. He was EXACTLY twice the amount of second place contestant going into Final Jeopardy. 27,200 to 13,600 if I recall correctly. So to wager $1 makes no sense!

If you're going for the win....why not bet more? The point being....he could have lost by $1 just as easily as 5,000. And sure enough, second place contestant (sorry, I forgot her name) wagered the full amount knowing that was her only chance to catch him if he bet NOTHING. If he bets nothing....he can't lose outright.

Fortunately for him, she got the answer (question) wrong, so it was a moot point. And he got it right, so still won 27,001. Still....puzzling.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on August 14, 2021, 04:42:34 PM
Well-established Jeopardy betting strategy is that, if you're in first place, you bet only as much as is needed to beat the second place contestant if he or she doubles his or her score.  The exception is that, if you're really confident in the category, then you can go for a big win.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: El Barto on August 16, 2021, 03:49:48 PM
Couldn't understand Matt's logic last night. He was EXACTLY twice the amount of second place contestant going into Final Jeopardy. 27,200 to 13,600 if I recall correctly. So to wager $1 makes no sense!

If you're going for the win....why not bet more? The point being....he could have lost by $1 just as easily as 5,000. And sure enough, second place contestant (sorry, I forgot her name) wagered the full amount knowing that was her only chance to catch him if he bet NOTHING. If he bets nothing....he can't lose outright.

Fortunately for him, she got the answer (question) wrong, so it was a moot point. And he got it right, so still won 27,001. Still....puzzling.
It seems that in 2014 Jeopardy abolished the tie game ending and implemented a random tiebreaker question. I guess that means they just run another round of Double Jeopardy. The guy in first place had two choices. He could bet zero, in which case a correct answer from 2nd moves them to a tie-breaker, or he could bet a buck, and either win or lose. What it would come down to is how confident you are in the current category. If you know the category well then you bet your dollar and try to avoid the tiebreaker question. If you're hazy on the current category then you bet 0, and if there's a tie then maybe you'll know the next category better.

Your question still is valid, though. If you know that 2nd has to bet the farm to try and tie/win, then there's no real difference between betting a buck or betting it all. I suppose 3rd place has to factor into it at that point, too.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on August 17, 2021, 03:35:37 PM
Couldn't understand Matt's logic last night. He was EXACTLY twice the amount of second place contestant going into Final Jeopardy. 27,200 to 13,600 if I recall correctly. So to wager $1 makes no sense!

If you're going for the win....why not bet more? The point being....he could have lost by $1 just as easily as 5,000. And sure enough, second place contestant (sorry, I forgot her name) wagered the full amount knowing that was her only chance to catch him if he bet NOTHING. If he bets nothing....he can't lose outright.

Fortunately for him, she got the answer (question) wrong, so it was a moot point. And he got it right, so still won 27,001. Still....puzzling.
It seems that in 2014 Jeopardy abolished the tie game ending and implemented a random tiebreaker question. I guess that means they just run another round of Double Jeopardy. The guy in first place had two choices. He could bet zero, in which case a correct answer from 2nd moves them to a tie-breaker, or he could bet a buck, and either win or lose. What it would come down to is how confident you are in the current category. If you know the category well then you bet your dollar and try to avoid the tiebreaker question. If you're hazy on the current category then you bet 0, and if there's a tie then maybe you'll know the next category better.

Your question still is valid, though. If you know that 2nd has to bet the farm to try and tie/win, then there's no real difference between betting a buck or betting it all. I suppose 3rd place has to factor into it at that point, too.
Bingo (wait....it's Jeopardy!). You understand the concept. Not even suggesting he bet a HUGE amount.....he got burned on that on a couple of Final Jeopardy by betting large and missing the question (but obviously still winning). But when you have some wiggle room....why not at least go for 5,000 or something like that? I know he has close to a half million dollars already, but when you consider that once your stint is over, you will NEVER get another chance to make "FREE" money that readily. As it turns out, he KNEW the topic enough to get the answer right. Seems he knows most things, on at least close to the same level as Ken/James.

That said, watched one of the classic Ken shows (not a Barbie induced striptease) from years ago (I guess they are featuring them all week in the transition to Richards?).....when he wagered on Double and Final he was pretty conservative. Makes you appreciate James and his take no prisoners approach.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on August 18, 2021, 09:56:04 AM
That said, watched one of the classic Ken shows (not a Barbie induced striptease) from years ago (I guess they are featuring them all week in the transition to Richards?).....when he wagered on Double and Final he was pretty conservative. Makes you appreciate James and his take no prisoners approach.

If I recall correctly, after they had aired the last of Alex's episodes, and before they had the guest host episodes in the can, they ran a couple weeks worth of "classic" episodes, including a couple of the Jennings episodes (and I believe they are re-airing those episodes before the new season starts in September).  Watching them, you wonder how the heck he lasted as long as he did.  He ran categories in order from top to bottom and bet quite conservatively.  I guess he just got very good with the buzzer (which, as I understand it, is half the battle) and, obviously, he had a wealth of knowledge.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Cool Chris on August 18, 2021, 11:22:20 PM
I liked Rock & Roll Jeopardy (hosted by Jeff Probst)

I remember watching, and enjoying, that!

Hilarious memory... Jane Weidlin was on, and one of the categories was "Heavy Metal" and all the responses in included a metal, such as "Tin Machine," and anytime she answered, she would add "that isn't heavy metal." At the end of the category, Jeff said "I don't know if you were kidding, Jane, but all the responses had a metal in it, they weren't necessarily related to the heavy metal genre." And she replied to the effect of "I wish I could say I was kidding, but I didn't get that till you pointed it out."
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on August 19, 2021, 08:53:01 AM
The tiebreakers for 'Jeopardy' (if you can get through the ads).

And, I assume, if both are wrong, they continue on until a winner is determined.  I don't think they've ever run into that situation.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on August 19, 2021, 01:40:51 PM
The tiebreakers for 'Jeopardy' (if you can get through the ads).

And, I assume, if both are wrong, they continue on until a winner is determined.  I don't think they've ever run into that situation.

Nothing here, man.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on August 20, 2021, 08:12:58 AM
I'll take 'Non Posted Attachments' for $600, Alex....

https://www.today.com/popculture/jeopardy-ends-rare-tie-watch-how-winner-was-chosen-t206812

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on August 20, 2021, 09:26:09 AM
I'll take 'Non Posted Attachments' for $600, Alex....

https://www.today.com/popculture/jeopardy-ends-rare-tie-watch-how-winner-was-chosen-t206812

 :facepalm:

Jennings didn't say what happens if you ring in and are wrong.  On other shows that do a tiebreaker like that, if you ring in and are wrong, you lose the game (so, if you're going to ring in, you'd better be right).

The most interesting part of that was Jennings saying that, on the host's lectern, you can see the contestants' wager and answer screens.  I imagine that post-show stuff is usually pretty mundane, but that one was interesting.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on August 20, 2021, 09:41:14 AM
Mike Richards has resigned/stepped down as host of Jeopardy

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/20/1029650746/jeopardy-host-mike-richards-steps-down?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews&fbclid=IwAR1rPG_lLKvTy9wKBMF1Y_lULmEA7eg8sHEehxD4jX0Z1ZkKs9XQWB_tuU0
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on August 20, 2021, 09:46:36 AM
Mike Richards has resigned/stepped down as host of Jeopardy

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/20/1029650746/jeopardy-host-mike-richards-steps-down?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews&fbclid=IwAR1rPG_lLKvTy9wKBMF1Y_lULmEA7eg8sHEehxD4jX0Z1ZkKs9XQWB_tuU0

Oh, FFS... :facepalm:
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on August 20, 2021, 10:20:34 AM
Look, with the understanding that legitimate abuse is not to be excused or tolerated, but whenever I read something like this:

"Richards came under added scrutiny this week, when The Ringer reported that from 2013 to 2014, when Richards hosted a podcast called The Randumb Show, he "repeatedly used offensive language and disparaged women's bodies.""

I'm inclined to want to read/hear what was said to make that judgment for myself.  As much as I'm supportive of women - I have two daughters that I want to see achieve every one of their dreams free from the sort of nonsense we hear about too frequently - I hate that this stuff happens seemingly in a vacuum without any "due process" (in quotes because I don't mean it literally, just in the sense of there's unilateral decision-making and we either go along with it or are tarred by the same brush).   
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on August 20, 2021, 10:29:53 AM
Oh the comments weren't just disparaging about women.  It was also disparaging against Jews and Haitians from what I've read.

But the actual show apparently has been "pulled."  I don't know how that came about but it sure seems fishy.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on August 20, 2021, 10:59:52 AM
Look, with the understanding that legitimate abuse is not to be excused or tolerated, but whenever I read something like this:

"Richards came under added scrutiny this week, when The Ringer reported that from 2013 to 2014, when Richards hosted a podcast called The Randumb Show, he "repeatedly used offensive language and disparaged women's bodies.""

I'm inclined to want to read/hear what was said to make that judgment for myself.

On top of that -- and without turning this into something for the political board -- I'd like to gain a clear understanding of what jobs are going to be available for people who have made these sorts of comments.  If we're just going to mindlessly force to resign or fire everyone who has made comments of this sort at some point in his/her life, aren't we going to end up with like a 90% unemployment rate?


from what I've read.

Four of the most dangerous words in the English language.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on August 20, 2021, 11:19:47 AM
from what I've read.

Four of the most dangerous words in the English language.

Really?  You don't believe in reading?  Huh.  That is a very foreign concept for me.  I have always been a voracious reader.

To each their own, I guess.  *shrug*
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on August 20, 2021, 01:07:11 PM
from what I've read.

Four of the most dangerous words in the English language.

Really?  You don't believe in reading?  Huh.  That is a very foreign concept for me.  I have always been a voracious reader.

To each their own, I guess.  *shrug*

Reading is a wonderful thing.

"Here's what happened at last night's game (which I neither attended nor watched)...from what I've read."

"Here's what that guy said at that meeting (that I didn't attend)...from what I've read."

"From what I've heard" falls into the same category, but please don't (mis-)interpret that to mean that I think listening is a bad thing.

"That guy says some pretty awful things (although I've never heard him speak myself)...from what I've heard."

Get the point?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on August 20, 2021, 01:20:50 PM
Hey I'd love to listen to the podcast but it has been scrubbed so I guess that means I have to rely on what I'm reading from those who have heard it.  You know?

If you have the actual recording, please post it.  Or if you have some alternative to getting to the facts, please post it.

Get the point?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on August 20, 2021, 02:52:26 PM
Look, with the understanding that legitimate abuse is not to be excused or tolerated, but whenever I read something like this:

"Richards came under added scrutiny this week, when The Ringer reported that from 2013 to 2014, when Richards hosted a podcast called The Randumb Show, he "repeatedly used offensive language and disparaged women's bodies.""

I'm inclined to want to read/hear what was said to make that judgment for myself.

On top of that -- and without turning this into something for the political board -- I'd like to gain a clear understanding of what jobs are going to be available for people who have made these sorts of comments.  If we're just going to mindlessly force to resign or fire everyone who has made comments of this sort at some point in his/her life, aren't we going to end up with like a 90% unemployment rate?


It's a dangerous precedent when we're only ever as good as our worst moment.   
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on August 20, 2021, 03:49:43 PM
Look, with the understanding that legitimate abuse is not to be excused or tolerated, but whenever I read something like this:

"Richards came under added scrutiny this week, when The Ringer reported that from 2013 to 2014, when Richards hosted a podcast called The Randumb Show, he "repeatedly used offensive language and disparaged women's bodies.""

I'm inclined to want to read/hear what was said to make that judgment for myself.

On top of that -- and without turning this into something for the political board -- I'd like to gain a clear understanding of what jobs are going to be available for people who have made these sorts of comments.  If we're just going to mindlessly force to resign or fire everyone who has made comments of this sort at some point in his/her life, aren't we going to end up with like a 90% unemployment rate?


It's a dangerous precedent when we're only ever as good as our worst moment.

But is that really what is happening here?  Look, I don't really have a dog in this hunt.  I know next to nothing about the Richards and when I watched him take his turn as host, I thought he did a fine job.  Sincerely.  I have only really ever felt passionate about what Alex would have wanted for the legacy and the integrity of the show.  Obviously Richards is smart enough to see that he isn't going to be that.  I thought he would persevere after the sexual harassment stuff came out (I mean, it's only women in the workplace and that shit has gone on for freaking ever).  But read his email.  I don't have any reason to believe he isn't sincere in what he is saying there.  None of us here can say whether or not those comments were his "worst moment" in his life or not.  But bottom line he is a businessman and a producer of a show with a precedent that needs to be upheld.  And he obviously felt that precent was worth more than his ego.  I think he is doing the right thing.  And if he thought it was a witch hunt, he wouldn't have so easily thrown in the towel.  Nor would he have deleted the podcast.

I don't know anyone who doesn't have something in their past that they would be ashamed to have see the light of day.  Literally last week my cousin posted one of those old-timey photos you get taken on vacation where everyone dresses up in period costumes.  This one happens to look like a group of white girls on a plantation with a young male cousin dressed as a confederate soldier 'defending' their honor from something.  My daughter and one of those girls - all of about 12 at the time - jokingly asked me if that means she could never run for political office now because that photo.  I have to think that it would definitely harm her chances with the way things are right now.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on August 20, 2021, 04:25:58 PM
Hey I'd love to listen to the podcast but it has been scrubbed so I guess that means I have to rely on what I'm reading from those who have heard it.  You know?

If you have the actual recording, please post it.  Or if you have some alternative to getting to the facts, please post it.

Get the point?

I do get the point, and I don't know anything about the podcast other than what you've conveyed, which is apparently two layers away from the podcast.  I'm therefore going to disregard it.  That's all I was ever saying here.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: orcus116 on August 20, 2021, 06:43:13 PM
from what I've read.

Four of the most dangerous words in the English language.

Really?  You don't believe in reading?  Huh.  That is a very foreign concept for me.  I have always been a voracious reader.

To each their own, I guess.  *shrug*

Speaking in generalities in terms of the times we're in and not relating to the matter at hand, since I have no knowledge of what was said, there is a tendency for quotes, especially in terms of podcasts, to be reported on in such an out of context manner that my immediate response is to question intent unless the actual quote itself is so egregious that perhaps context has left the building. The application of a black and white judgement from phrasing, words, etc. (literal transcriptions) from such a gray area (spoken/filmed media) without reference points seems far too common in today's day and age, especially when we're at this throwaway, sensationalist level of journalism in an era where media outlets are struggling to survive. It seems that everything at face value is the truth since it appears that the general public doesn't bother to dig any deeper and moves on to the next thing because perhaps the negativity is exciting in the moment and that we've all got this "watch the world burn" ember inside of us that keeps it going. My personal philosophy is we're all hypocrites to a degree and sometimes shun folks for things we do or think ourselves in private but put on a different face for the rest of the world. That's what makes me a skeptic when I see any articles regarding someone getting thrown to the wolves for something they have supposedly done, especially in the past.

That being said if clips or other things pop up that point someone more towards being guilty of an actual offense I'm more than happy to change my mind. I like to think of myself as practical and I've seen far too many kneejerky reactions to inconsequential things so I find myself more towards the skeptical camp than not, at least in today's climate.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: KevShmev on August 20, 2021, 07:00:48 PM


It's a dangerous precedent when we're only ever as good as our worst moment.

Not for those perfect people out there in the world who scream and yell at every little thing someone did wrong 33 years ago.  I am envious of those people who are so perfect that they can call for the heads of those who made mistakes and have no fear of ever have the same happen to them because of how perfect they are.

And before anyone blows a gasket, I am not referring to anyone here.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Cool Chris on August 20, 2021, 08:48:35 PM
"Richards came under added scrutiny this week, when The Ringer reported that from 2013 to 2014, when Richards hosted a podcast called The Randumb Show, he "repeatedly used offensive language and disparaged women's bodies.""

I'm inclined to want to read/hear what was said to make that judgment for myself. 

Came in to complain about this. I hate when news articles write something about how someone used "offensive/disparaging language" and doesn't say what they actually said.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 21, 2021, 09:30:01 AM
From a show titled "RanDumb" I find it laughable those "righteous" people complained.

But it's also ironic how since they deleted the podcast no one will know unless it's archived, if what he said warranted the backlash.

I personally think Mayim Balik would do a great job as being a full-time host. Don't know why they're not just going with her.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on August 21, 2021, 07:17:14 PM
Look, with the understanding that legitimate abuse is not to be excused or tolerated, but whenever I read something like this:

"Richards came under added scrutiny this week, when The Ringer reported that from 2013 to 2014, when Richards hosted a podcast called The Randumb Show, he "repeatedly used offensive language and disparaged women's bodies.""

I'm inclined to want to read/hear what was said to make that judgment for myself.

On top of that -- and without turning this into something for the political board -- I'd like to gain a clear understanding of what jobs are going to be available for people who have made these sorts of comments.  If we're just going to mindlessly force to resign or fire everyone who has made comments of this sort at some point in his/her life, aren't we going to end up with like a 90% unemployment rate?


It's a dangerous precedent when we're only ever as good as our worst moment.
Hardly a precedent in the celebrity world. Insert Joe Paterno, Wesley Snipes, Michael Richards, Paul Reubens, Kathy Griffin, Dixie Chicks, OJ Simpson, Robert Blake, Winona Ryder, Bill Cosby, Tiger Woods (even with a redemption of sorts).

And those are just the ones I could think of offhand. Granted, yes.....some of these were more their already persistent (but hidden), darker sides being suddenly exposed with one egregious error the media pounced on (instead of just spontaneously imploding). 

A couple of others I thought of as I was typing this.....but similar to Tiger, somehow maintained their careers and celebrity (such as it is)....Mel Gibson, and Alec Baldwin.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: ZirconBlue on August 23, 2021, 12:27:12 PM


"Richards came under added scrutiny this week, when The Ringer reported that from 2013 to 2014, when Richards hosted a podcast called The Randumb Show, he "repeatedly used offensive language and disparaged women's bodies.""

I'm inclined to want to read/hear what was said to make that judgment for myself. 

Came in to complain about this. I hate when news articles write something about how someone used "offensive/disparaging language" and doesn't say what they actually said.



Here's a link to The Ringer article (https://www.theringer.com/tv/2021/8/18/22631299/mike-richards-jeopardy-host-search-process-past-comments) (which NPR links to in their reporting) for anyone who actually wants to know the details. 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on August 23, 2021, 03:02:16 PM
And let's just leave it at "my concerns were founded". 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on August 31, 2021, 07:49:13 PM
James Holzhauer tweets on the firing of Mike Richards:

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Some judged Mike Richards solely on his podcast comments and formed a negative opinion, but I judged him by the way he treated people backstage at Jeopardy and formed a much stronger negative opinion.


Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 01, 2021, 10:51:47 AM
James Holzhauer tweets on the firing of Mike Richards:

Quote
Some judged Mike Richards solely on his podcast comments and formed a negative opinion, but I judged him by the way he treated people backstage at Jeopardy and formed a much stronger negative opinion.
Wow
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: MoraWintersoul on September 08, 2021, 01:57:50 PM


"Richards came under added scrutiny this week, when The Ringer reported that from 2013 to 2014, when Richards hosted a podcast called The Randumb Show, he "repeatedly used offensive language and disparaged women's bodies.""

I'm inclined to want to read/hear what was said to make that judgment for myself. 

Came in to complain about this. I hate when news articles write something about how someone used "offensive/disparaging language" and doesn't say what they actually said.



Here's a link to The Ringer article (https://www.theringer.com/tv/2021/8/18/22631299/mike-richards-jeopardy-host-search-process-past-comments) (which NPR links to in their reporting) for anyone who actually wants to know the details. 
"After Richards was named the executive producer of Jeopardy! and Wheel of Fortune in 2019, another former Deal employee remembers a supervisor who had worked closely with Richards remarking, “I bet he hires himself.”"

Wow, if I were this person, I'd start playing the lottery.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on September 15, 2021, 06:57:29 AM
Seems weird to have Richards host right now....knowing he's a lame duck. Matt keeps ROLLING along. Wow.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on September 15, 2021, 07:21:58 AM
In case anyone cares, I've been watching The Chase, with Ken Jennings, Mark Labbett, James Holzauer, and Brad Rutter.  I've been vocal about not liking Jennings or Holzauer, but I've actually warmed to both of them.  Jennings a LOT, and Holzauer a little.  Jennings is actually a pretty funny guy.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on September 15, 2021, 09:23:55 AM
In case anyone cares, I've been watching The Chase, with Ken Jennings, Mark Labbett, James Holzauer, and Brad Rutter.  I've been vocal about not liking Jennings or Holzauer, but I've actually warmed to both of them.  Jennings a LOT, and Holzauer a little.  Jennings is actually a pretty funny guy.

Jennings's dry wit is pretty good.  Rutter has always been pretty funny, and Labbett is gold.  The best stuff with Holzhauer is the backstage stuff when he's not playing.  In the most recent episode, he and Labbett were razzing Jennings for making some cheap offers to the contestants.  Sara Haines is, however, no Brooke Burns.

Have you watched Jennings's other show, Master Minds?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on September 15, 2021, 09:54:28 AM

Sara Haines is, however, no Brooke Burns.


She's sufficiently quippy, generally congenial, and physically appealing. However, those attributes do not offset the nasally/whiny ass voice....and that contrived laugh she doles out at times. Plus, it wouldn't hurt if she read the questions faster in the rapid fire round (perhaps a money saver for the show!)
 
I have to REALLY focus on the balance of the show being worth tolerating its unyielding impact on my collective nerves. But at times it's a colossal battle.

The first time I watched it with my wife, I told her I couldn't stand her voice and stopped watching after less than 2 minutes. She pleaded with me to hang in there, so I did. I really like the show otherwise.

As you alluded, Brooke checks all the boxes. Most importantly, she speaks clearly and quickly. Sara fits better with The View (primarily because I never watch it).
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on September 15, 2021, 10:05:05 AM

Sara Haines is, however, no Brooke Burns.


She's sufficiently quippy, generally congenial, and physically appealing. However, those attributes do not offset the nasally/whiny ass voice....and that contrived laugh she doles out at times. Plus, it wouldn't hurt if she read the questions faster in the rapid fire round (perhaps a money saver for the show!)
 
I have to REALLY focus on the balance of the show being worth tolerating its unyielding impact on my collective nerves. But at times it's a colossal battle.

The first time I watched it with my wife, I told her I couldn't stand her voice and stopped watching after less than 2 minutes. She pleaded with me to hang in there, so I did. I really like the show otherwise.

As you alluded, Brooke checks all the boxes. Most importantly, she speaks clearly and quickly. Sara fits better with The View (primarily because I never watch it).

It would take a LOT of money to get me to watch The View.

The best part of the original Chase was Burns's rapport with Labbett and her overt rooting for the contestants to win.  I have to say, though, that there were times when she would read so fast that I couldn't understand her.  Haines is at the other end of the spectrum, and she seems to do this:  "And your time begins...NOW...[two second pause]...what would you do for a Klondike Bar?"  She's also very stilted when the contestants do the head-to-head with the chaser.  "Ooooh...ok...so we won't be moving the money down the board...." (yawn)....
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on September 15, 2021, 10:41:05 AM
In case anyone cares, I've been watching The Chase, with Ken Jennings, Mark Labbett, James Holzauer, and Brad Rutter.  I've been vocal about not liking Jennings or Holzauer, but I've actually warmed to both of them.  Jennings a LOT, and Holzauer a little.  Jennings is actually a pretty funny guy.

Jennings's dry wit is pretty good.  Rutter has always been pretty funny, and Labbett is gold.  The best stuff with Holzhauer is the backstage stuff when he's not playing.  In the most recent episode, he and Labbett were razzing Jennings for making some cheap offers to the contestants.  Sara Haines is, however, no Brooke Burns.

By the way, I agree with your assessment of all of them.   I am TOTALLY with you on that last point (though Sara is growing on me).  I'm a HUGE Brooke Burns fan.

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Have you watched Jennings's other show, Master Minds?

I have not.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on September 15, 2021, 10:49:45 AM
One other thing, and I'd love your take PG on this:  does it seem as if the contestants are contrived with their rationale for selecting answers?  It almost seems like the rationales make it out to be a guess, but they seem to guess right a LOT of the time.   

"Wow, You picked 'testicle feather'; why did you pick that?"
"Well, I guessed that there's no such thing as "grundle tickler", and between "testicle feather" and "perineum jelly", I figured I have a testicle, so I went with that one!"


I'd never make it on one of those shows, because I'm not interested in making "good television".  I'd basically have two answers:

"Stadler, why did you pick 'Gene Simmons' there?"
"Because I know the answer."

"Wow, Stadler why did you pick 'Paul Stanley' there?"
"Because I had no friggin' idea, Sara and I had to pick something to move this game along."
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on September 15, 2021, 01:09:07 PM
Quote
Have you watched Jennings's other show, Master Minds?

I have not.

It's not nearly as good as The Chase and is much cheesier, but it's worth checking out.  The incestuousness between these shows is interesting.  Brook Burns used to host The Chase and now hosts Master Minds.  All of the current chasers on The Chase, except Labbett, were former Jeopardy! champions.  Two of the other "master minds" on that show appeared on The Chase as hosted by Burns (and one of them was on twice).  What I didn't know until fairly recently was that Holzhauer was on The Chase before he appeared on Jeopardy!:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_29XwyYN9M


One other thing, and I'd love your take PG on this:  does it seem as if the contestants are contrived with their rationale for selecting answers?  It almost seems like the rationales make it out to be a guess, but they seem to guess right a LOT of the time.   

"Wow, You picked 'testicle feather'; why did you pick that?"
"Well, I guessed that there's no such thing as "grundle tickler", and between "testicle feather" and "perineum jelly", I figured I have a testicle, so I went with that one!"


I'd never make it on one of those shows, because I'm not interested in making "good television".  I'd basically have two answers:

"Stadler, why did you pick 'Gene Simmons' there?"
"Because I know the answer."

"Wow, Stadler why did you pick 'Paul Stanley' there?"
"Because I had no friggin' idea, Sara and I had to pick something to move this game along."

I think your perception that some of the explanations are contrived is correct, and I think that's even more true since the contestant has to lock in with an answer within 5 seconds after the chaser locks in.  They just don't have the time to do the level of analysis that some of the explanations suggest.  I also think I would be similarly snarky with some of my explanations.  "So, Paul, why did you say Rush?"  "Because it's the correct answer."  Obviously, I would only be able to get away with that once, but I damn sure would do it.  However, some of them can be pretty easily explained -- especially those where the "tell" is a Greek or Latin root.

Also, there was a contestant on the original U.S. version of the Chase who, every time he didn't know the correct answer, responded with some sort of preconceived placeholder, rather than saying pass.  "What's the cube root of 100 million?"  "Dream Theater."  "What's the capital of Namibia?"  "Dream Theater."
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: SoundscapeMN on September 18, 2021, 11:37:16 AM
Amodio vs Holzhauer

it's only a matter of time.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on September 19, 2021, 08:41:22 AM
Amodio vs Holzhauer

it's only a matter of time.

It's interesting, because Amodio missed that true Daily Double in the first round on Thursday's (I think) match.....and was actually in the red and struggling. The lady to his left wasn't exactly killing it....but had a solid round going. And you're thinking....wow, this COULD be it. But then he caught fire in Double Jeopardy and just destroyed both of his opponents AGAIN.

His usual MO is bet it all on the Daily Doubles in the first round.....get the big lead, then cruise in Double Jeopardy (MUCH smaller bets on the Daily Doubles in that round). He had to flip flop those in that match and still won going away. I think he has only been forced to bet in Final Jeopardy a couple of times.

Still, I think Holzauer would beat him head to head. Not that Matt isn't close to his level, just outright.....but then you wonder about all of the other "tricks" James has up his sleeve. He can be intimidating, has that THING with the clicker, and is much more apt to bet it all even when you don't expect (which was his eventual downfall). In his case, too....the lady that took him down was sharp (obviously), but wasn't champion all that long. Which tells you it's more about strategic betting, and getting YOUR categories......much more than just an unbelievably broad knowledge base.

In Amodio's case, I just wonder if, so far.....it's been more about his opponents than his actual dominance? Going against James or Ken in a tournament would be the best way to find out!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on September 21, 2021, 02:42:12 PM
We watched annoyingly for the first time in weeks last night.  Darn, had the female contestant known 'Roger Rabbit', she wins >:(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpJTlprcPJg

I know about full and partial name answers being correct most of the time, but last night was irritating as all hell during the first round.

$1000 Ventriloquism For Dummies
Edgar Bergen’s most famous dummy, this character was based on a newsboy but classed up with a monocle & top hat
Matt:  “What is McCarthy?”
Mayim:  “Who is Charlie McCarthy?” then says ‘correct’ and he smiles

The following are for the category ‘Alliterative People’.  Isn’t the point of this to give both names?

$800 (Pictured) Born with an artistic heritage, she’s found beauty in designing jewelry and creating a signature perfume
Matt: “What’s Picasso?”
Mayim: “Yes
(She is Paloma Picasso)

$600 One of the greatest songs he’s written is ‘Send in the Clowns’ from a ‘A Little Night Music’
Matt: “What’s Sondheim?”
Mayim:  “Yes, that’s correct.”
(he is Stephen Sondheim)

$400 (Pictured) His assassination triggered ‘the war to end all wars’ 
Matt:  “What’s Ferdinand?”
Mayim:  “That’s correct.  Franz Ferdinand.”

For $200, the female contestant correctly answered ‘Who is Ronald Reagan?’

If his answers are incomplete, we don't understand how they can be correct.

Still irritates us that if you do or don’t add an ‘S’ or slightly mispronounce, it is wrong.  And that 'Sgt. Pepper' was an incorrect 'Final Jeopardy' response. O have to spell out correctly ‘Mariska Hargitay’ for Final Jeopardy.

And, as much as we like Mayim Bialik, wake us when her and Matt are gone.  Rant over.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on September 21, 2021, 03:23:17 PM
It is possibly the oldest and most well-known Jeopardy! rule (other than responding in the form of a question) that only the last name is needed unless there's ambiguity involved (e.g., if the clue were "This U.S. president was a Rough Rider," you'd have to say "Teddy Roosevelt" and not just "Roosevelt").

I haven't yet watched last night's episode, but the only one of the clues you mentioned that is problematic is the one about Franz Ferdinand because "Ferdinand" was not his last name.  The guy's name was "Franz Ferdinand Carl Ludwig Joseph Maria."  He was a member of the House of Habsburg-Lorraine but didn't have a surname.  For that reason, I don't think "Ferdinand" should have been accepted.

I vaguely recall the Sgt. Pepper one, and I believe I thought the show was in error.  I'm not familiar with the Mariska Hargitay one, but it's also a very well-known rule that misspellings are accepted as long as they don't change the answer.  For example, there are probably about 93 different acceptable spellings of Muammar Gaddafi's name (including some that begin with "K" or "Q").  However (and I'm guessing here), an answer of "Hartigay" changes the name and would be wrong.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on September 21, 2021, 04:29:07 PM
Yeah, I know the Roosevelt reference is often used for Jeopardy correct answers regarding names.  I just want the contestant to give the complete answer when it 'should' be given.  I would never expect 'Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti Simoni' as a needed correct response, but 'Charlie McCarthy' should be.

As to 'Alliterative Names'....

Alliterative:  of, relating to, or marked by alliteration
Alliteration:  the use of words that begin with the same sound near one another 

The key being 'words', such as more than one word.  Just seems so sloppy, annoying, and incomplete.  Second rant over. ;)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on September 22, 2021, 06:34:55 AM
Yeah, I know the Roosevelt reference is often used for Jeopardy correct answers regarding names.  I just want the contestant to give the complete answer when it 'should' be given.  I would never expect 'Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti Simoni' as a needed correct response, but 'Charlie McCarthy' should be.

As to 'Alliterative Names'....

Alliterative:  of, relating to, or marked by alliteration
Alliteration:  the use of words that begin with the same sound near one another 

The key being 'words', such as more than one word.  Just seems so sloppy, annoying, and incomplete.  Second rant over. ;)

Wow, would love to show both of your rants to my wife.....who thinks MY rants are superfluous. This is meant to be a compliment, by the way.  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on September 22, 2021, 07:00:11 AM
It is possibly the oldest and most well-known Jeopardy! rule (other than responding in the form of a question) that only the last name is needed unless there's ambiguity involved (e.g., if the clue were "This U.S. president was a Rough Rider," you'd have to say "Teddy Roosevelt" and not just "Roosevelt").

I haven't yet watched last night's episode, but the only one of the clues you mentioned that is problematic is the one about Franz Ferdinand because "Ferdinand" was not his last name.  The guy's name was "Franz Ferdinand Carl Ludwig Joseph Maria."  He was a member of the House of Habsburg-Lorraine but didn't have a surname.  For that reason, I don't think "Ferdinand" should have been accepted.

I vaguely recall the Sgt. Pepper one, and I believe I thought the show was in error.  I'm not familiar with the Mariska Hargitay one, but it's also a very well-known rule that misspellings are accepted as long as they don't change the answer.  For example, there are probably about 93 different acceptable spellings of Muammar Gaddafi's name (including some that begin with "K" or "Q").  However (and I'm guessing here), an answer of "Hartigay" changes the name and would be wrong.

What was the Sgt. Pepper answer and question (as a Beatles fanatic, I'm curious if I would have gotten it right).
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on September 22, 2021, 07:26:52 AM
It was a piece of pie for all who followed The Beatles and most others

https://fikklefame.com/final-jeopardy-11-21-17/

I guess I didn't remember it quite the way it ended.  Always stuck in our heads as being just 'Sgt.Pepper'.  Still, the man ran out of time, (perhaps from pausing at  Sgt. Pepper?), he 'knew it', and it cost him a win.  I do hope they at least brought him back for a second chance. 

Rants:  my wife, who is a crossword afficionado, which really helps for 'Jeopardy' (she tops me probably 65/35) doesn't reach my temperature, but she simmers longer, and approved my earlier messages :D
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on September 22, 2021, 09:03:01 AM
It was a piece of pie for all who followed The Beatles and most others

https://fikklefame.com/final-jeopardy-11-21-17/

I guess I didn't remember it quite the way it ended.  Always stuck in our heads as being just 'Sgt.Pepper'.  Still, the man ran out of time, (perhaps from pausing at  Sgt. Pepper?), he 'knew it', and it cost him a win.  I do hope they at least brought him back for a second chance. 

Rants:  my wife, who is a crossword afficionado, which really helps for 'Jeopardy' (she tops me probably 65/35) doesn't reach my temperature, but she simmers longer, and approved my earlier messages :D

I defer to PG here on the rules interpretation, but I would absolutely accept "Sgt. Pepper" before I accept "Sgt. Pepper Lonely Heart".  If the primary composer - Paul McCartney - can and does call it "Sgt. Pepper", that ought to be good enough to distinguish it for the Jeopardy judges.  My name is Bill, short for William, either is acceptable, but "Willia" is not.  I won't!  :)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on September 22, 2021, 10:03:20 AM
It is possibly the oldest and most well-known Jeopardy! rule (other than responding in the form of a question) that only the last name is needed unless there's ambiguity involved (e.g., if the clue were "This U.S. president was a Rough Rider," you'd have to say "Teddy Roosevelt" and not just "Roosevelt").

I haven't yet watched last night's episode, but the only one of the clues you mentioned that is problematic is the one about Franz Ferdinand because "Ferdinand" was not his last name.  The guy's name was "Franz Ferdinand Carl Ludwig Joseph Maria."  He was a member of the House of Habsburg-Lorraine but didn't have a surname.  For that reason, I don't think "Ferdinand" should have been accepted.

I vaguely recall the Sgt. Pepper one, and I believe I thought the show was in error.  I'm not familiar with the Mariska Hargitay one, but it's also a very well-known rule that misspellings are accepted as long as they don't change the answer.  For example, there are probably about 93 different acceptable spellings of Muammar Gaddafi's name (including some that begin with "K" or "Q").  However (and I'm guessing here), an answer of "Hartigay" changes the name and would be wrong.

What was the Sgt. Pepper answer and question (as a Beatles fanatic, I'm curious if I would have gotten it right).

I think this is a better link -- https://www.jeopardy.com/jbuzz/behind-scenes/judges-table-sgt-peppers-what -- because it includes video and an explanation from the producers (and doesn't have all of the extraneous stuff about the game leading up to Final Jeopardy and the ads).  As the article explains, "Though the beloved album is widely abbreviated to either 'Sgt. Pepper' or 'Sgt. Pepper’s,' Wilbur’s partial response not only referenced the work in a way that has never been popularly known, but it also changed the meaning of the title itself.  The famous album and its name were conceptualized around the fictional Sgt. Pepper’s band, not his lonely heart."

FWIW, my recollection was also that someone had written "Sgt. Pepper" and that that wasn't accepted.  Not only was my recollection faulty, but it appears that "Sgt. Pepper" or "Sgt. Pepper's" would have been accepted.


Still, the man ran out of time, (perhaps from pausing at  Sgt. Pepper?), he 'knew it', and it cost him a win.  I do hope they at least brought him back for a second chance.

Jeopardy! RARELY brings back contestants for second chances.  If they brought back everyone who "knew it" but made a mistake in expressing that knowledge, they'd rarely have new players.  The biggest "offender" in this regard is the last book of the New Testament.  A lot of folks mistakenly say, "What is Revelations?"  But the name of the book is "Revelation" (no "s").  The contestants who say "Revelations" "know it," but that response is always wrong.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on September 22, 2021, 01:23:38 PM
https://www.thewrap.com/this-jeopardy-contestant-will-get-another-chance-after-final-jeopardy-round-goes-awry/

https://www.distractify.com/trending/2018/07/17/Z1OKHCa/jeopardy-contestant-brought-back

Yup, as to Sgt. Pepper, adding more without being complete is 'wrong per se', but.....  Always 'but'.....

We've also seen where Contestant B is wrong for minus $800, Contestant A correct for $800, and then they later correct their error by awarding Contestant B $1600 to make up for the minus $800.  But they don't subtract $800 from Contestant A, and A ends up ahead by a less than $800 or 2x plus $1 at the end of Double Jeopardy.  Bringing people back because of those situations would be fair.

'Revelation':  truly did not know that after all these decades.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on September 22, 2021, 01:29:04 PM
'Revelation':  truly did not know that after all these decades.

I'd probably get that wrong myself but for having seen it enough times on Jeopardy!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on October 04, 2021, 02:38:40 PM
Amodio now in second place on all time winners list. But he's still less than half the total of King Ken.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: SoundscapeMN on October 05, 2021, 06:48:48 AM
his signature phrase

"what's [insert noun]...?"
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: SoundscapeMN on October 11, 2021, 11:13:19 PM
****SPOILER*******



so his streak ends at 39. And he loses to an actor who almost looks like Christopher Cross, lol.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 12, 2021, 09:43:38 AM
I don't watch every night, but I'm glad I watched last night lol
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on October 12, 2021, 10:06:18 AM
I'm six days behind.  I usually watch all five episodes over the following weekend, but I was super busy last weekend.  With the most important game of the Dodgers' season tonight, I certainly won't watch any Jeopardy.

Glad to hear that Amodio finally got beaten.  Ten days is about as long as I can tolerate most champions and then they get boring and I actively root for them to lose.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on October 12, 2021, 11:59:57 AM
Amodio either had a WAY off night or he threw it.  I'm leaning toward the latter.

Honestly, I think he felt like he had enough bank and wanted his real life back.

Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: SoundscapeMN on October 12, 2021, 05:04:42 PM
yeah, I kind of wondered the same.

I would like to see him go up against Holzhauer though. It may just only be a matter of time.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on October 12, 2021, 06:09:54 PM
All I know, is that it was a joy to watch it again with my wife tonight. 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 13, 2021, 08:47:48 AM
yeah, I kind of wondered the same.

I would like to see him go up against Holzhauer though. It may just only be a matter of time.
Tournament of Champions?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on October 13, 2021, 10:18:17 AM
yeah, I kind of wondered the same.

I would like to see him go up against Holzhauer though. It may just only be a matter of time.
Tournament of Champions?

No...Holzhauer was on during the 2018-2019 season and appeared on and won the 2019 TOC.  The only way Holzhauer and Amodio will face each other will be on a "Greatest of All Time" tournament similar to the one that aired in January 2020 between Holzhauer, Brad Rutter and Ken Jennings.

By the way, I just read this morning (although it's apparently not new information) that Jennings will be back to host some Jeopardy episodes through the end of 2021.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on October 29, 2021, 11:39:22 AM
My wife checked in way more times than I did, I watched a few of Jonathan Fisher's wins, and it's been nice this week to sit with her for every show.  Competition!  Different winners for the past four nights!  Woot! Woot!

A recent clue was 'What was the first program that NBC telecast in color on January 1st, 1954?'

A few years before my time, but I correctly answered 'what is the Tournament of Roses Parade?'  Yea.  Oddly, the contestant said 'what is the Rose Parade?' and were given credit for a correct answer, without needed to give the full answer.  This is happening a bit too much.

Mayim is doing pretty good.  Helps having different contestants, she's quite comfortable now, and it shows.  Hell, it took me years to warm up to Alex (yeah, I'm old enough to remember Art Fleming and Don Pardo).
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on October 30, 2021, 06:24:28 PM
A few years before my time, but I correctly answered 'what is the Tournament of Roses Parade?'  Yea.  Oddly, the contestant said 'what is the Rose Parade?' and were given credit for a correct answer, without needed to give the full answer.  This is happening a bit too much.

??  Are you suggesting they shouldn't have accepted "Rose Parade"?  If so, that's a little like saying they shouldn't accept "Rhode Island" if the clue were "State founded by Roger Williams."


Mayim is doing pretty good.  Helps having different contestants, she's quite comfortable now, and it shows.  Hell, it took me years to warm up to Alex (yeah, I'm old enough to remember Art Fleming and Don Pardo).

I can't remember when I started watching regularly, but Fleming was before my time.  I've watched some of his episodes, and the pacing of the show made it hard to watch.  I was skeptical about Bialik as host.  She was fine when she did her guest hosting stint, but it felt like it was Amy from The Big Bang Theory doing the hosting.  However, now that she's had several weeks, I'm getting more comfortable with her.  She's witty and shows it in about the right amount, and her intellectual credentials are beyond reproach.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on November 01, 2021, 06:01:18 PM
A few years before my time, but I correctly answered 'what is the Tournament of Roses Parade?'  Yea.  Oddly, the contestant said 'what is the Rose Parade?' and were given credit for a correct answer, without needed to give the full answer.  This is happening a bit too much.

??  Are you suggesting they shouldn't have accepted "Rose Parade"?  If so, that's a little like saying they shouldn't accept "Rhode Island" if the clue were "State founded by Roger Williams."

Well, they used to at least ask 'can you be more specific'...i.e., your answer is slightly incomplete.

As to Roger Williams, that's a trick question (depending on how it's asked) and I thank google for now knowing that.  He didn't found Rhode Island, he found what would become Rhode Island. 

per wiki:  "founded Providence Plantations, which became the Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations and later the U.S. State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, now the State of Rhode Island."

I will say, that is a mouthful.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on November 02, 2021, 10:02:57 AM
A few years before my time, but I correctly answered 'what is the Tournament of Roses Parade?'  Yea.  Oddly, the contestant said 'what is the Rose Parade?' and were given credit for a correct answer, without needed to give the full answer.  This is happening a bit too much.

??  Are you suggesting they shouldn't have accepted "Rose Parade"?  If so, that's a little like saying they shouldn't accept "Rhode Island" if the clue were "State founded by Roger Williams."

Well, they used to at least ask 'can you be more specific'...i.e., your answer is slightly incomplete.

They still do that.  "President who walked softly and carried a big stick."  "Who is Roosevelt?"  "Be more specific."

Answering "Rose Parade" does not require more specificity.  There's no "Rose Garden Parade," in addition to the "Tournament of Roses Parade," such that more specificity would be required.  It's the same issue as with Sgt. Pepper that I think we discussed not long ago:  https://www.jeopardy.com/jbuzz/behind-scenes/judges-table-sgt-peppers-what.  "Sgt. Pepper" and "Sgt. Pepper's" are acceptable because they are widely accepted abbreviations of "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band."  Likewise, "Rose Parade" is commonly used to refer to the Tournament of Roses Parade.  However, just as "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart" was not acceptable, I suspect, "Tournament of Rose" would not be acceptable.


As to Roger Williams, that's a trick question (depending on how it's asked) and I thank google for now knowing that.  He didn't found Rhode Island, he found what would become Rhode Island. 

per wiki:  "founded Providence Plantations, which became the Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations and later the U.S. State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, now the State of Rhode Island."

I will say, that is a mouthful.

It wasn't intended to be a trick question, but I have now learned that, in 2020, the voters in Rhode Island amended the state constitution to drop "and Providence Plantations" from the official state name.   :)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on November 03, 2021, 08:39:37 AM
I google Roger Williams, but I don't google 'Rose Parade' before my wild rant.   :facepalm:  :D
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on November 05, 2021, 01:17:18 PM
I don't know how seriously Aaron Rodgers was considered for the new host, but recent events leave me feeling like they dodged a huge bullet.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on November 07, 2021, 06:51:04 AM
 :tup
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on November 18, 2021, 09:30:49 PM
Ken Jennings returned last week, and I will say his transition back has been smooth. 

There have been a couple of recent Final Jeopardy clues that made me smile, and a couple of final wagers that were head scratchers.  Also, whether most topics haven't been 'up my alley' or not, but recently I've only been correct about 20% of the time.  I am always impressed with the knowledge of the contestants, but when I can't even come close to making a half axed guess most of the time, and they're answering right and left, my admiration increases even more.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on November 19, 2021, 09:21:22 AM
It's interesting that Johnny Gilbert introduces Jennings with, "And now, hosting Jeopardy!  Ken Jennings."  As opposed to, "And now, the host of Jeopardy!  Mayim Bialik."

The clue from last week about Bohemian Rhapsody and Mamma Mia was a tough one (none of the contestants got it), and I don't think it was particularly well-worded.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on December 06, 2021, 05:43:17 AM
Completely in AWE of Amy's current run. She is making Matt Amodio a distant memory. Even Ken is just enthralled with this kind of dominance.  :hefdaddy

I know most of the reactions on this thread with Matt were wishing he would lose sooner than later. That the underdog is king. I tend to agree with this in general (parity in sports for example), though I must admit there is an appeal to seeing how far a run can go. Hoping there's no such thing as the DT Forum jinx. Seeing Amy dispense justice in this manner, I doubt that will come into play. I think there's going to have to be a big mistake on a Daily Double, not get the right categories (though her knowledge base is very expansive!), or just run out of desire to win (in much the same way Matt seemed to succumb). That, or some new ASS KICKER just takes it.

Sooner or later, but my guess is later.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on December 06, 2021, 08:30:20 AM
It will definitely be later because there is a 2 week pause now for the Tournament of Professors (or something like that).

Amy's run has indeed been very impressive! 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on December 06, 2021, 10:52:50 AM
I didn't watch any of last week's episodes this weekend.  As is often the case, I tend to get bored with multi-day champs sometime between 5-10 wins, and Amy is no exception.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 06, 2021, 11:57:43 AM
I didn't watch any of last week's episodes this weekend.  As is often the case, I tend to get bored with multi-day champs sometime between 5-10 wins, and Amy is no exception.
She is extremely dominant.  I've enjoyed her run, because she's not inherently unlikable like the last clown.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: HOF on December 06, 2021, 08:55:16 PM
Grew up watching, then didn't have TV for a long time so didn't watch it much for a long time. Back when the pandemic started we talked ourselves into signing up for Netflix, but the only thing that I had any interest in watching was Jeopardy. My kids got into watching it with me for a while, but we cancelled before long.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on December 14, 2021, 06:20:17 PM
I have enjoyed Amy Schneider's run.  A very pleasant personality, and some big wagers.  But, with all 10+ time winners, I wish there was a limit.

The 'Professors Challenge' has been entertaining with THE host Mayim Bialik (after pg1067 mentioned it, we always notice it....)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on January 08, 2022, 08:17:16 AM
Amy Schneider reached 26 wins, and went over $1 million last night.  Yet another runaway win.  Nice woman, but it is time.

Sadly, she made the news for another reason this week  https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/01/05/jeopardy-winner-amy-schneider-robbed/
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on January 14, 2022, 11:56:01 PM
Well, the streak continues.

Oddly, she struck out on four straight Final Jeopardys this week.  My wife and I had all of them.  Double arm raises!!!!  Now, if only........ ;)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on January 20, 2022, 08:37:57 AM
Amy has stumbled on the last few final Jeopardy questions yet still the streak continues. 

Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 27, 2022, 02:59:16 PM
The streak ended last night.  I knew it would happen eventually, but it was a little stunning, I must admit.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: lonestar on January 27, 2022, 05:04:52 PM
The streak ended last night.  I knew it would happen eventually, but it was a little stunning, I must admit.


There was speculation that she tanked it on purpose, that it was a question she should've known. I wasn't watching, did that seem to be the case or did she clearly seem not to know?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on January 27, 2022, 05:48:36 PM
The streak ended last night.  I knew it would happen eventually, but it was a little stunning, I must admit.


There was speculation that she tanked it on purpose, that it was a question she should've known. I wasn't watching, did that seem to be the case or did she clearly seem not to know?

I think that same sort of speculation occurred when Matt Amodio finally lost.  I'm about 5-6 episodes behind, so I haven't see it either.  This will give me something to look forward to (nothing against Amy but, as I've said before, I get bored with most mega-champions by about the 10th appearance).
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 28, 2022, 07:59:43 AM
The streak ended last night.  I knew it would happen eventually, but it was a little stunning, I must admit.


There was speculation that she tanked it on purpose, that it was a question she should've known. I wasn't watching, did that seem to be the case or did she clearly seem not to know?
She seemed not to know.

I didn't know it either.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: lonestar on January 28, 2022, 08:49:22 AM
The streak ended last night.  I knew it would happen eventually, but it was a little stunning, I must admit.


There was speculation that she tanked it on purpose, that it was a question she should've known. I wasn't watching, did that seem to be the case or did she clearly seem not to know?
She seemed not to know.

I didn't know it either.

Wait... You didn't know it?



My world is fucking shattered.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 28, 2022, 11:21:39 AM
It will be OK.

As soon as we found out what the answer was, I was pissed that I couldn't come up with it.  I should have known.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on January 28, 2022, 11:57:40 AM
I like to think I'd have known that, but I saw the correct resposne at the same time I saw the clue, so I can't be sure.

For anyone who hasn't seen it, the clue was, "The only nation in the world whose name in English ends in an H, it's also one of the 10 most populous."

The correct response:  Bangladesh.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on January 28, 2022, 12:45:51 PM
George Harrison knows the answer.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on January 28, 2022, 03:09:39 PM
It does honestly seem like a relatively easy clue.  I would imagine there's some fatigue after that many episodes - especially if you're on your fifth episode in a day.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on January 29, 2022, 09:24:34 AM
George Harrison knows the answer.

 :hefdaddy

btw, my wife got it, and I'm like 'yup'.

Amy didn't tank, she just didn't know.  I think she lost around $40K total in two consecutive Final Jeopardy's, then pocketed $25K the show before.  She missed quite a few the week before.  Things happen.  Plus, for once, a contestant had enough and hit big on a Double Jeopardy late. 

It'll be interesting to see her and Matt go head to head later on, and see her after that.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on January 29, 2022, 09:35:33 AM
For those of you on Twitter, Amy posted a lengthy thread recapping her final episode.

@Jeopardamy

[posts pertaining to final]

Quote
So it was coming down to Final Jeopardy! I couldn't even remember the last time that happened, and I was unprepared for the pressure of the moment. The category was revealed, and I couldn't have picked a better one for myself, but my brain refused to be comforted

And ultimately, that's what it came down to. The clue came up and I thought "I'll definitely get this," but when it didn't come to me in the first few seconds, I started panicking in a totally unproductive way

I was trying to mentally hop around the globe, but a part of my brain was screaming "NOOOOO" which made it hard. The most frustrating thing is that I was *right there,* my brain went "India? Pakistan? Nepal?" and then just jumped to another part of the world

So, since there's nothing even to guess there, given that there's only one country ending in "H", I was left with a blank screen. My only hope was that Rhone had missed, but Ken said "Bangladesh," and I knew it was over

Ngl, it was crushing. I know I'd been thinking my streak would end, but that doesn't mean I wanted it to! But I had to put my best face on, and make sure that I didn't pull any focus from Rhone, it was a great, well-deserved moment for him and he deserved to enjoy it to the full!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on January 30, 2022, 05:19:23 PM
Candid response from a great champion. Based on the reaction conveyed, I don't think she tanked.

Glad she gave Rhone credit....he made quite a comeback. Interesting, however....just how poorly he did in the very next match!

Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on January 30, 2022, 06:47:56 PM
Candid response from a great champion. Based on the reaction conveyed, I don't think she tanked.

Glad she gave Rhone credit....he made quite a comeback. Interesting, however....just how poorly he did in the very next match!

The woman who beat Ken Jennings finished her defending champion episode with $2 (it was a runaway for the woman who won).

The woman who beat James Holzhauer won two more days (winning almost $100k) and then lost in a very close final in which she got it wrong.

The guy who beat Matt Amodio won eleven times (winning almost $250k) and then lost in a very close final that everyone got right.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on January 31, 2022, 04:42:50 AM
Candid response from a great champion. Based on the reaction conveyed, I don't think she tanked.

Glad she gave Rhone credit....he made quite a comeback. Interesting, however....just how poorly he did in the very next match!

The woman who beat Ken Jennings finished her defending champion episode with $2 (it was a runaway for the woman who won).

The woman who beat James Holzhauer won two more days (winning almost $100k) and then lost in a very close final in which she got it wrong.

The guy who beat Matt Amodio won eleven times (winning almost $250k) and then lost in a very close final that everyone got right.

Interesting context on these....the curly headed guy who looked like the kid from Bad Santa (no offense) being the anomaly. He had a legit run.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on February 02, 2022, 08:41:32 AM
I liked the guy who beat Matt, but, maybe it was from fatigue because there was yet another person going on a run right away.

Anyhoo, Mayim is back.  Two things:  she was taking waaaay too much joy giving the correct response when none of the contestants could, and she seemed to have drank ten cups of coffee between the Monday and Tuesday filmings.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on February 03, 2022, 04:28:05 PM


Anyhoo, Mayim is back.  Two things:  she was taking waaaay too much joy giving the correct response when none of the contestants could, and she seemed to have drank ten cups of coffee between the Monday and Tuesday filmings.
Agree....she could dial it back a bit. I do think her enthusiasm is genuine (and therefore has a charm to it), and a little of it now and then is not an issue. But it's to the point where she makes it more about her than the contestants.

And yes....while Ken also revels sometimes when he knows an answer....yesterday Mayim implored the contestants "c'mon guys!", when not getting an answer she thought was quite obvious. Might be a little funny/spontaneous....and not the worst thing in the world....but still scolding.

Also, and Ken does, and Alex did occasionally too (so again, not a big indictment), but she almost always gives you the full name of someone in an answer (when the contestants only give the perfunctory last name)....or some other impromtu nugget.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on February 04, 2022, 10:16:39 AM
^
Probably a carry over from all her time with Matt Amodio :D  and I'm OK with hearing the complete name most of the time. 

A headscratcher where the clue related to an SEC school in Alabama, and the contestant responded, 'What is Auburn?'  Silence, he looks blank and confused, and then quickly adds  'What is Auburn University?'  'That is correct'.    Uhm,  :huh:

Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on February 04, 2022, 10:49:58 AM
The shorthand on this show always bothered me.  Not so much just using last names, but (and Holzauer was bad for this), if the category was "Major Dream Theater Forums", he would be "Forums, $200". I get it, but it bothers me nonetheless.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 04, 2022, 11:31:59 AM
The shorthand on this show always bothered me.  Not so much just using last names, but (and Holzauer was bad for this), if the category was "Major Dream Theater Forums", he would be "Forums, $200". I get it, but it bothers me nonetheless.
Why?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on February 04, 2022, 12:23:25 PM
The shorthand on this show always bothered me.  Not so much just using last names, but (and Holzauer was bad for this), if the category was "Major Dream Theater Forums", he would be "Forums, $200". I get it, but it bothers me nonetheless.

In the multiple auditions I've had for Jeopardy, we were told that, when they record the shows, contestants are expressly encouraged to use shorthand for the category names in order to save time and increase the likelihood of getting through all of the clues before time runs out.

The only time this causes issues for me (as a viewer) is if I'm not paying close attention and knowing the category is important to getting the response correct.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on February 04, 2022, 02:37:35 PM
The shorthand on this show always bothered me.  Not so much just using last names, but (and Holzauer was bad for this), if the category was "Major Dream Theater Forums", he would be "Forums, $200". I get it, but it bothers me nonetheless.
Why?

I don't know.  I've heard pg say that before, that it's encouraged, but for some reason, it still irks.  I don't know.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Orbert on February 05, 2022, 10:03:09 PM
It doesn't seem quite right.  Jeopardy! is a game with some very specific rules regarding what you say and how you say it, so it feels somehow inconsistent that a player can get "lazy" and just say one word in the category title.  Yes, we all know what it means, but for God's sake, man, have some respect if not for yourself but for the countless who have come before you and said the full fucking name of the category every time.  Every fucking time.  You're not cool for using shorthand.  Respect the game.  If not, get the fuck out.

I don't know, does that explain it?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 06, 2022, 04:39:49 AM
It doesn't seem quite right.  Jeopardy! is a game with some very specific rules regarding what you say and how you say it, so it feels somehow inconsistent that a player can get "lazy" and just say one word in the category title.  Yes, we all know what it means, but for God's sake, man, have some respect if not for yourself but for the countless who have come before you and said the full fucking name of the category every time.  Every fucking time.  You're not cool for using shorthand.  Respect the game.  If not, get the fuck out.

I don't know, does that explain it?
Nor really, because most of the champions used shorthand category titles.  So people who don't like it are literally mad about nothing.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Orbert on February 06, 2022, 06:54:21 AM
Not mad, just slightly annoyed.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on February 06, 2022, 02:16:37 PM
I mentioned this a long time ago.  Say the category is ‘Dream Theater Albums With Mike Mangini’.  I don’t mind hearing the whole thing said the first time, but after that, ‘Dream Theater Albums’, ‘Dream Theater’, ‘Mike Mangini’, or simply ‘Albums’ is sufficient for us.  It speeds things up, especially with some of the slower speaking and more nervous contestants.  And….it seems as if they love creating more long winded or tongue twisting titles these days. 

Mayim totally lost us Friday.  For the category 'ANIMALS':  (Pictured)  Unlike seals, these beach lovers have external ears and can walk on their hind flippers?
Two got it wrong, one did not answer. 

She actually barked twice while clapping her hands twice before saying ‘what are sea lions?’

My wife and I paused the show and shook our heads while going WTF?  If one of the contestants was correct, had she planned to bark and clap?

An earlier show, she laughed, and was all giggly as she admonished the players:  "C'mon guys, none of you know the movie 'Meatballs!'"
(sorry, but neither of us had heard of it).  Embarrassing.

Oh, and 'Jeopardy round' is now the 'Single Jeopardy' round.   :huh:

I've read on their Fbook page where some people switch to Closed Caption when she hosts.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Cool Chris on February 06, 2022, 08:23:32 PM
I loved Meatballs as a kid, watched it several times.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on February 07, 2022, 10:31:07 AM
It doesn't seem quite right.  Jeopardy! is a game with some very specific rules regarding what you say and how you say it, so it feels somehow inconsistent that a player can get "lazy" and just say one word in the category title.  Yes, we all know what it means, but for God's sake, man, have some respect if not for yourself but for the countless who have come before you and said the full fucking name of the category every time.  Every fucking time.  You're not cool for using shorthand.  Respect the game.  If not, get the fuck out.

I don't know, does that explain it?
Nor really, because most of the champions used shorthand category titles.  So people who don't like it are literally mad about nothing.

Yeah...

It wasn't all that long ago when there was a buzzer that would sound with a minute left in each round, and it wasn't at all uncommon that you'd have 3-5 uncovered clues at the end of the round.  That hardly ever happens anymore.  The whole point of shorthand is to save time so that they can get through all 30 clues per round.  As I mentioned, the contestants are expressly told to abbreviate, and I can't even conceive how it has anything to do with respect for the game or any person.


I mentioned this a long time ago.  Say the category is ‘Dream Theater Albums With Mike Mangini’.  I don’t mind hearing the whole thing said the first time, but after that, ‘Dream Theater Albums’, ‘Dream Theater’, ‘Mike Mangini’, or simply ‘Albums’ is sufficient for us.  It speeds things up, especially with some of the slower speaking and more nervous contestants.  And….it seems as if they love creating more long winded or tongue twisting titles these days.

Exactly.  And, in addition to the long category names, you get folks who add "I'll take" or "Let me get" at the beginning.  When I played a practice round at an audition, the first time I called a category, I did that and also added "please" at the end.  As soon as I did it, I had a little internal alarm go off and thought, "that's exactly what they told us NOT to do."


I loved Meatballs as a kid, watched it several times.

It was actually Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, not Meatballs.


As for Mayim, she definitely has fun with it, as opposed to the much more distinguished Alex Trebek, and I can see where some might not like that.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on February 07, 2022, 11:53:23 AM
It doesn't seem quite right.  Jeopardy! is a game with some very specific rules regarding what you say and how you say it, so it feels somehow inconsistent that a player can get "lazy" and just say one word in the category title.  Yes, we all know what it means, but for God's sake, man, have some respect if not for yourself but for the countless who have come before you and said the full fucking name of the category every time.  Every fucking time.  You're not cool for using shorthand.  Respect the game.  If not, get the fuck out.

I don't know, does that explain it?
Nor really, because most of the champions used shorthand category titles.  So people who don't like it are literally mad about nothing.

Yeah...

It wasn't all that long ago when there was a buzzer that would sound with a minute left in each round, and it wasn't at all uncommon that you'd have 3-5 uncovered clues at the end of the round.  That hardly ever happens anymore.  The whole point of shorthand is to save time so that they can get through all 30 clues per round.  As I mentioned, the contestants are expressly told to abbreviate, and I can't even conceive how it has anything to do with respect for the game or any person.


As someone who criticized it, for the record, not "mad" at all.  And if the producers tell them to do it, then I've got nothing to say about it, carry on.   It always struck me as presumptuous; obviously if they are being told that's the definition of NOT presumptuous!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Orbert on February 07, 2022, 02:02:17 PM
I guess I figured that my response was so over-the-top that I wouldn't need green text.  Next time, I will try to go further over the top.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 07, 2022, 02:54:48 PM
I guess I figured that my response was so over-the-top that I wouldn't need green text.  Next time, I will try to go further over the top.
lol
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on February 11, 2022, 06:51:22 PM
An earlier show, she laughed, and was all giggly as she admonished the players:  "C'mon guys, none of you know the movie 'Meatballs!'"
(sorry, but neither of us had heard of it).  Embarrassing.

Oh, and 'Jeopardy round' is now the 'Single Jeopardy' round.   :huh:

I've read on their Fbook page where some people switch to Closed Caption when she hosts.

I haven't noticed this yet, but https://www.tvinsider.com/1032047/jeopardy-mayim-bialik-makes-slight-change-to-show-and-viewers-arent-happy/?fbclid=IwAR0H5ZyUay0mrz7wOrsPcGHTrkq8-WgCwdjZqawENzFS44YiElW_qzMbFa8
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on April 22, 2022, 03:26:13 PM
Haven't chimed in for a while.  Just wanted to say that I've enjoyed Mattea's run (though I still think a ten game limit is in order).

She's missed quite a few 'Final Jeopardy' clues, and should have lost one game, but the only contestant who got it correct didn't bid enough.

There's been a lot of bad bidding in that round the last month, more so than any stretch I've watched. The above is one example.  A few others where the 3rd place person would have won if they had just bid zero.  Their ONLY chance to win was for the others to be wrong (which happened, but they messed up).  One night, second place had $10K, the defending champ $12K.  Both were wrong.  $10K person 'only' bid $8000, leaving her with $2000.  The leader with $12K didn't bid $8001, which would have put her at $20,001 with a correct response, and $3999 with an incorrect response, .....she bid it all.   :facepalm:

Oh, and two nights ago, two contestants with negative totals.  I forget now how long it had been since that happened.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on April 22, 2022, 07:16:17 PM
Oh, and two nights ago, two contestants with negative totals.  I forget now how long it had been since that happened.

You know, I've watched Jeopardy faithfully for many years - we DVR them though I'm sure I've been a few here and there - and I don't recall EVER seeing this happen before.

Crazy!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on April 22, 2022, 08:36:08 PM
My wife and I were both dumbfounded about the two negative scores. I'm sure it's happened before, but we've never seen it.

Yes, Mattea has grown on me. I like her a lot. She's quirky and smiley, but also seriously competitive when she's locked in.

Scolds herself constantly about not betting more when she knows a Daily Double, but overall her conservative wagering on those and Final Jeopardy  has served her well.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on April 22, 2022, 08:57:53 PM
I'm a full two weeks behind on my Jeopardy.  I watched Mattea's first couple episodes, and my daughter watched the last part of one, and I asked if she wanted to watch more.  She said yes, so I waited for her, but she was busy, so....  My kid actually looks a little like Mattea, so I'll remain patient.

Here's an article discussing some rare scoring scenarios:  https://www.jeopardy.com/jbuzz/behind-scenes/breaking-down-four-rare-jeopardy-scenarios

I believe the triple $0 has happened more than once.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Dream Team on April 29, 2022, 05:37:00 PM
I really enjoy Mattea. She’s got this nerd-cute thing going on which is appealing to me.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on May 08, 2022, 09:49:13 AM
Mattea finally ousted (guessing no spoilers at this point). Great run, though. I don't think she can quite hang with Amy and Matt in the TOC, but she can make it interesting.

I agree about the cute nerd thing. Hair doesn't bother me, though...she may want to use some of her winnings to get some grill work done. That might be a deal breaker otherwise.    :biggrin:
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on June 06, 2022, 08:37:03 PM
Well....Ryan is out after 16 wins.  I kind of liked him.  He was not a huge risk taker and you could tell he wasn't really sure of himself a lot, but I liked his lack of ego.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on June 07, 2022, 11:56:31 AM
The next Tournament of Champions is going to be ridiculous!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Dream Team on June 09, 2022, 02:12:06 PM
Well....Ryan is out after 16 wins.  I kind of liked him.  He was not a huge risk taker and you could tell he wasn't really sure of himself a lot, but I liked his lack of ego.

Yes we were rooting for Ryan big-time. Suck it fat haters.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on June 11, 2022, 11:46:44 AM
Ryan had quite a run. Now Eric is killing it for the past week. I can see why he beat Ryan.....he may go on an extended streak himself.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on June 15, 2022, 04:43:29 AM
Eric loses in Final Jeopardy by TWO dollars!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Dream Team on June 15, 2022, 04:50:05 AM
Eric loses in Final Jeopardy by TWO dollars!

That was some interesting wagering.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on June 16, 2022, 04:18:01 PM
Eric loses in Final Jeopardy by TWO dollars!

That was some interesting wagering.

Right! Eric did not have a runaway....so why did Megan not bet enough to pass his total going into Final Jeopardy? That made no sense....all Eric had to do was bet ZERO dollars and she would have lost regardless of whether he got the answer right or not. She's lucky he bet just enough to lose.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on June 21, 2022, 09:35:06 AM
Eric loses in Final Jeopardy by TWO dollars!

That was some interesting wagering.

Right! Eric did not have a runaway....so why did Megan not bet enough to pass his total going into Final Jeopardy? That made no sense....all Eric had to do was bet ZERO dollars and she would have lost regardless of whether he got the answer right or not. She's lucky he bet just enough to lose.

So...I finally got around to watching this episode last night.  The scores going into Final J were:

Eric:  $18,600
Megan:  $10,000
Barry:  $9,000

Eric had a runaway as against Barry but not as against Megan.  Therefore, the logical wagers were as follows:

Eric:  $1,401 (which was his actual wager).  This wager assures Eric that, if he answers correctly, he'll win.  Unfortunately, he could not guard against losing to Barry if he doubled his money and answered correctly.  Therefore, there would have been no additional downside  to wagering more than this amount.  Wagering $0 was also a possibility but not a good one (see below).

Barry:  $8,200.  As noted, if Eric successfully responded to FJ, Barry couldn't catch him.  Therefore, Barry had to wager for the possibility of Eric getting it wrong but also needed to take into account Megan's strategy, which is a bit complex as discussed below.  Assuming Eric wagered logically, then Barry should have wagered enough to pass Eric.  If Eric wagered $1,401 and missed, he'd be left with $17,199, so Barry should have wagered enough to surpass that number, which meant he should have wagered $8,200, which would have left him at $17,200.  However, his best chance would have been to wager everything he had (see below).  His actual wager of $8,000 made no sense at all.

Megan:  Several options for Megan.  Megan's first option was to double her money by wagering $10k.  However, Eric could have easily countered that (and did), so her smarter move was to wager based on the premise that Eric would be incorrect.  If Eric were incorrect and wagered $0, Megan should have wagered $8,601.  However, wagering $0 would have been illogical for Eric because it takes the result out of his hand.  Wagering $0 leaves it entirely up to Megan (who, as it turns out, was the only person to respond correctly).  That leaves Megan's third, which was wagering what she did wager - $7,201.  If Eric makes his most logical wager ($1,401) and responds incorrectly, then $7,201 wins (and actually did win) her the game.  The $7,201 wager assumes Eric wagers logically and counts on him being incorrect.  Since a correct response by Eric wins no matter the wager (unless Eric illogically wagers $0), Megan's wager was the almost right decision.  The problem is that, had Barry responded correctly and made a more intelligent wager, he would have won.  Therefore, Megan should have wagered $8,001.


I always wonder how much time they get to make their wagers.  I assume it's more than the 2-minute commercial break, but I wonder if it's enough time to do all the necessary math.  Hopefully, one of these days, I'll have the opportunity to find out.

P.S. Eric commented in a post-show interview that he completely overthought what I thought was a crazy obvious Watergate question.  I kinda feel like when you see that the category is "1972," your first thought is either Watergate or the Munich Olympics.  While they all gave Watergate-related responses, Nixon was really the obvious response.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on June 24, 2022, 05:15:00 AM
Eric loses in Final Jeopardy by TWO dollars!

That was some interesting wagering.

Right! Eric did not have a runaway....so why did Megan not bet enough to pass his total going into Final Jeopardy? That made no sense....all Eric had to do was bet ZERO dollars and she would have lost regardless of whether he got the answer right or not. She's lucky he bet just enough to lose.

So...I finally got around to watching this episode last night.  The scores going into Final J were:

Eric:  $18,600
Megan:  $10,000
Barry:  $9,000

Eric had a runaway as against Barry but not as against Megan.  Therefore, the logical wagers were as follows:

Eric:  $1,401 (which was his actual wager).  This wager assures Eric that, if he answers correctly, he'll win.  Unfortunately, he could not guard against losing to Barry if he doubled his money and answered correctly.  Therefore, there would have been no additional downside  to wagering more than this amount.  Wagering $0 was also a possibility but not a good one (see below).

Barry:  $8,200.  As noted, if Eric successfully responded to FJ, Barry couldn't catch him.  Therefore, Barry had to wager for the possibility of Eric getting it wrong but also needed to take into account Megan's strategy, which is a bit complex as discussed below.  Assuming Eric wagered logically, then Barry should have wagered enough to pass Eric.  If Eric wagered $1,401 and missed, he'd be left with $17,199, so Barry should have wagered enough to surpass that number, which meant he should have wagered $8,200, which would have left him at $17,200.  However, his best chance would have been to wager everything he had (see below).  His actual wager of $8,000 made no sense at all.

Megan:  Several options for Megan.  Megan's first option was to double her money by wagering $10k.  However, Eric could have easily countered that (and did), so her smarter move was to wager based on the premise that Eric would be incorrect.  If Eric were incorrect and wagered $0, Megan should have wagered $8,601.  However, wagering $0 would have been illogical for Eric because it takes the result out of his hand.  Wagering $0 leaves it entirely up to Megan (who, as it turns out, was the only person to respond correctly).  That leaves Megan's third, which was wagering what she did wager - $7,201.  If Eric makes his most logical wager ($1,401) and responds incorrectly, then $7,201 wins (and actually did win) her the game.  The $7,201 wager assumes Eric wagers logically and counts on him being incorrect.  Since a correct response by Eric wins no matter the wager (unless Eric illogically wagers $0), Megan's wager was the almost right decision.  The problem is that, had Barry responded correctly and made a more intelligent wager, he would have won.  Therefore, Megan should have wagered $8,001.


I always wonder how much time they get to make their wagers.  I assume it's more than the 2-minute commercial break, but I wonder if it's enough time to do all the necessary math.  Hopefully, one of these days, I'll have the opportunity to find out.

P.S. Eric commented in a post-show interview that he completely overthought what I thought was a crazy obvious Watergate question.  I kinda feel like when you see that the category is "1972," your first thought is either Watergate or the Munich Olympics.  While they all gave Watergate-related responses, Nixon was really the obvious response.

Wow....a lot to unpack here. Nicely done. Bottom line for Megan....as you suggested....she should have bet $8,001. That's why I say she was very fortunate. Though, yes....moot point now.

Craziest thing....Megan won THREE times by TWO dollars!!! What are the odds of THAT??? I don't even have to check the Jeopardy archives to know that has NEVER happened before.

Megan's reign over. I think that retraction from her total at the end made a difference in her wagering in Final Jeopardy. Her response was "Tweedledee and Tweedledum"....and they only wanted Tweedledee. So the extra info was not relevant and they corrected her score accordingly. Current champ Jeff Weinstock made a similar blunder earlier in the game, and he was not given credit for the answer.

Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on June 24, 2022, 09:10:44 AM
I didn't go in thinking that last post would be THAT long.   :)

I haven't watched any more recent episodes yet, but this has been one heck of an odd season.  I've been watching on the regular for a LONG time and can't ever recall this many 5+ and 10+ day champions in such a short time frame.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on June 26, 2022, 01:12:28 PM
I finally caught up on my Jeopardy episodes (my Jeopisodes?).

Megan might be the least impressive 6x winner ever.  She always seemed surprised to have won.

I have to imagine that, when they get to the TOC, folks like Megan are going to be super intimidated by the "mega champs."
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on June 30, 2022, 05:01:44 AM
Quality of contestants has taken an instant nosedive. Champion from previous day won with $10,000 total (and started Double Jeopardy with $200...so that tells you how the other two did in that round)....then got beat yesterday by someone with $5,000 total. All three were incorrect. All three had less than $10,000 going into Final Jeopardy. Wow. Pining for Matea or Amy right now. Yeesh.  :huh:
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on July 24, 2022, 03:51:48 PM
I caught up on my Jeopardy this weekend.

I don't remember which day it was, but there was one day where the three contestants went into final Jeopardy with the following scores:  Defending champ - $20,000; Contestant #2 - $10,000; Contestant #3 - $3,200.

Obviously, Contestant #2 needs to wager the full $10k so that, with a correct response, he can tie the champ or possibly win if the champ is wrong.  The champ should either bet $0 (if she's not comfortable with the category) or some relatively small amount of money (really didn't need to be more than $1).

So...they get to the reveal, and Contestant #3 gets it wrong.  Then they go to Contestant #2, who gets it correct...BUT he only wagered $3,000.  WTF?  The champ also got it wrong and wagered only $1, so if Contestant #2 had wagered everything, he'd have won.  Literally the only down side to Contestant #2 wagering everything was that he might have finished in third place and gotten $1,000 instead of $2,000.  Big whoop!  Only wagering a few thousand absolutely guaranteed that he'd finish in second place.  How do you not bet on yourself to win?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on July 30, 2022, 12:23:06 AM
I wish I'd have kept a tally, but the bidding has been deplorable so often over the past three months.  3rd place with hardly anything can still win, if the top 2 are close and have to bid it all, and are wrong.  Yet, I've seen that person in 3rd screw the pooch.

I've seen the leader bid it all when she didn't have to. I mean, the leader never has to bid it all.  All three were wrong, but she lost because she had zero.

Jeff got lucky a few times, but he bid small amounts where if everyone was wrong, including himself, he'd win.

I think the most recent tiebreaker had the top two at $10K and $15K.  $10K bid it all, and ended at $20K.  $15K bid $5K....not $5K plus $1. That person lost the tiebreak (deservedly so).

Most recently:  $11,000   ....  $11,800 .... $21,000 

Mr. 11K bid $3000.  WTW?  Even if the others are wrong, you aren't winning  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on July 30, 2022, 01:31:23 PM
Right! Completely mystified by the poor wagering as of late.

I guess it shows....an exceptional data compiler does not (always) an efficient assessment/judgment applier make.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on September 16, 2022, 11:56:32 AM
Was such a long break, I forgot they are back on.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on September 16, 2022, 12:22:09 PM
Jeopardy's break is shorter than most shows.  I'm actually looking forward to the Celebrity Jeopardy episodes with a few odd twists.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on September 20, 2022, 06:57:01 AM
Started watching again Friday night thanks to this thread  :tup

Noticed a BIG change during the introductions:  instead of 'now hosting 'Jeopardy', Ken Jennings'  it is 'and now, THE host of 'Jeopardy', Ken Jennings'. I did read he'll be the host of the regular shows through December, while Mayim gets the Celebrity and College Championship. 

And now a comment as to yet another stupid wager last night.  'A' has $10,000, 'B' has $8600, and 'C' has $8000.  'A' calls out the last clue, and it's a 'Daily Double'.   You either bid $7201 to make it a runaway if correct, or bid under $1400 to keep the lead going into 'Final Jeopardy' if wrong.  Instead, as he had done on the prior two 'Daily Doubles', he bids $2000 !    :facepalm:  And, gets it wrong to fall into 3rd . Fitting.

He can count his lucky stars he was the only one to get the 'Final Jeopardy' response correct.

(but, bully for him being yet another metro DC/Baltimore contestant that's been successful over the past 3-6 months of 'new' shows)

Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on September 20, 2022, 10:09:02 AM
Ken and Mayim have been announced as official co-hosts, so they'll be switching off.  I also believe Buzzy Cohen will have some involvement (he might be hosting the Tournament of Champions).  They've also disbanded the Clue Crew, with Sarah taking a production role and Jimmy assuming the stage manager duties full time.

Last Tuesday's show had a REALLY stupid wager.  The woman in the middle answered a Daily Double clue correctly and stormed back to take the lead going into Final Jeopardy (she had $16,600, while the champ had $15,700 and the other challenger had $11,000).  Quite coincidentally, the category was British Royal Family, and the clue was:  "Prince Philip’s titles included Baron Greenwich & Duke of Edinburgh, but not Prince Consort, last used by this royal."  Correct response:  Prince Albert.

The other challenger got FJ wrong.  Then the champion got it right and bet everything but a dollar.  When they went to reveal the woman in the middle's response, you could see in her face that she had screwed up.  Her response was correct, so you knew she had botched her wager.  Instead of betting enough to cover the champ doubling his money, she bet $1,801, so she fell far short of winning.

It took a while, but here's the convoluted reasoning for her wager:  She was apparently counting on the champ wagering $901, which would have won the game for him IF he got the response correct and she did not and bet $0.  Her $1,801 wager would cover her in the event the champ wagered $901 and got it wrong AND she also got it wrong (in that case, they'd both have finished with $14,799 and gone to a tiebreaker).  This is beyond baffling because of the number of "ifs" that would have had to happen.  How you don't assume that your competitor, who is less than $1k behind you, won't double his money and wager to protect against that is beyond my comprehension.  I guess she wasn't totally comfortable with the category, but she obviously knew enough about it to get the correct response, so maybe it was an unwarranted lack of confidence, but you gotta bet on yourself.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on September 25, 2022, 02:37:20 PM
Another dumbass wager on 9/16, and it cost a 5-day champ his title.

Champ has $18,000
C2 has $2,800
C3 has $15,800

Category is Disney Songs.

As the champ, you have to assume that C2 will get it right and double his money, which would take him to $31,600, so you have to wager $13,601.  Right?

The clue is, "'We Don't Talk About Bruno,' from Encanto, is the first song from an animated Disney film to hit No. 1 since this duet in 1993."  Correct response:  "A Whole New World from Alladin.

C2 gets it wrong, and C3 gets it right but only wagered $10,000, a number that made no sense at all, but now he's at $25,800.  Champ also gets it correct, but he only wagered $1,551.  WTF?!  If you're not confident in the category, then wager $0 and at least give off the impression that you're not a complete noob.

Ugh....
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on September 27, 2022, 05:22:13 AM
Another dumbass wager on 9/16, and it cost a 5-day champ his title.

Champ has $18,000
C2 has $2,800
C3 has $15,800

Category is Disney Songs.

As the champ, you have to assume that C2 will get it right and double his money, which would take him to $31,600, so you have to wager $13,601.  Right?

The clue is, "'We Don't Talk About Bruno,' from Encanto, is the first song from an animated Disney film to hit No. 1 since this duet in 1993."  Correct response:  "A Whole New World from Alladin.

C3 gets it wrong, and C2 gets it right but only wagered $10,000, a number that made no sense at all, but now he's at $25,800.  Champ also gets it correct, but he only wagered $1,551.  WTF?!  If you're not confident in the category, then wager $0 and at least give off the impression that you're not a complete noob.

Ugh....
Don't you mean C3 got it right and bet 10,000? At least, based on your numbers for Final Jeopardy going in, right? I remember the question....don't remember the particulars.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on September 27, 2022, 09:44:06 AM
Gaaa...I ignored my own nomenclature.

I've edited my prior post so it now makes sense.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on October 09, 2022, 01:01:22 PM
I've watched the first couple episodes of Celebrity Jeopardy!  It's always fun to see whose smarter than he/she looks.

Also, I'm now low-key in love with Iliza Schlesinger.  She's just damn adorable!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on October 29, 2022, 06:19:17 AM
Bear with me on this…..

Last week ended with one of the two day challenges to see who gets a spot in the Tournament of Champions.  After Day One
James  $30, 929
Jessica  $28,600
Molly  $15,600

Going into ‘Final Jeopardy’ of Day 2:
James $2000
Jessica  $15,300
Molly  $10,600

As those who follow the show know, the winner is determined from the highest total of both shows.  On Day Two, one can only wager using their totals for Day Two.

So, on October 21st, the totals right at that moment are:
James  $32,929
Jessica  $43,900
Molly  $26,200

James can only wager $2000.  If correct, he'll have $34,929.  Molly can only wager $10,600.  If correct, she’ll have $36,800. 

Congratulations, Jessica!  You are the winner!  You advance, even with an incorrect response, if you bid anything less than $7100.


I make a comment to the wife, that in a year of often plain stupid wagering, who knows?  Sure enough, Jessica pulls a Cliff Clavin!

She bid $10,000  :facepalm: and was incorrect.  But, fortunately for her, the others were also incorrect, otherwise one of them would have won.

https://thejeopardyfan.com/2022/10/final-jeopardy-10-21-2022.html





Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on October 31, 2022, 10:18:28 AM
You almost wish the producers could step in and say, "yeah...you won, but that wager was just so phenomenally stupid that we just can't, in good conscience, put you through."
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 31, 2022, 11:23:19 AM
Bear with me on this…..

Last week ended with one of the two day challenges to see who gets a spot in the Tournament of Champions.  After Day One
James  $30, 929
Jessica  $28,600
Molly  $15,600

Going into ‘Final Jeopardy’ of Day 2:
James $2000
Jessica  $15,300
Molly  $10,600

As those who follow the show know, the winner is determined from the highest total of both shows.  On Day Two, one can only wager using their totals for Day Two.

So, on October 21st, the totals right at that moment are:
James  $32,929
Jessica  $43,900
Molly  $26,200

James can only wager $2000.  If correct, he'll have $34,929.  Molly can only wager $10,600.  If correct, she’ll have $36,800. 

Congratulations, Jessica!  You are the winner!  You advance, even with an incorrect response, if you bid anything less than $7100.


I make a comment to the wife, that in a year of often plain stupid wagering, who knows?  Sure enough, Jessica pulls a Cliff Clavin!

She bid $10,000  :facepalm: and was incorrect.  But, fortunately for her, the others were also incorrect, otherwise one of them would have won.

https://thejeopardyfan.com/2022/10/final-jeopardy-10-21-2022.html
I made a similar comment to my wife when we were watching.  I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on November 02, 2022, 12:45:55 PM
What is going on in the TOC? The Monday lineup esp....no one got over $10,000 by Final Jeopardy? Wow! Even my wife, who is the ultimate rose colored glasses person, was mystified. So if she couldn't even put a spin on things, you know it was bad. I thought Ken was going to lose his mind. :omg:

I think Rowan Ward from the Second Chance tournament would have dusted any of those champions.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 03, 2022, 08:12:43 AM
What is going on in the TOC? The Monday lineup esp....no one got over $10,000 by Final Jeopardy? Wow! Even my wife, who is the ultimate rose colored glasses person, was mystified. So if she couldn't even put a spin on things, you know it was bad. I thought Ken was going to lose his mind. :omg:

I think Rowan Ward from the Second Chance tournament would have dusted any of those champions.
I thought it was weird too.  Could it be that it's been so long since they've played that the "out of practice" combined with nerves led to lower than expected scores?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on November 03, 2022, 09:43:54 AM
Bear with me on this…..

...

I just watched this episode last night (obviously, I'm behind).  Hilarious seeing it develop and knowing what was coming.  It was also a rare occasion where I knew the correct response but none of the contestants did (even more rare since it was a literature clue)!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on November 03, 2022, 05:38:57 PM
Bear with me on this…..

...

I just watched this episode last night (obviously, I'm behind).  Hilarious seeing it develop and knowing what was coming.  It was also a rare occasion where I knew the correct response but none of the contestants did (even more rare since it was a literature clue)!

I've realized this year from your posts, that you tend to fall behind, thus I'll wait 3-5 days to post  (but not this far ;) :biggrin:)

Monday's results were not 'that bad'. The one category with the double vowel governments was confusing as heck (we only got 'Knesset', but the double vowel isn't back to back...that's what was rather confusing...  my wife and I got it, but only after a pause).  I don't believe there were any correct responses in that category.

I know I have the guy's name wrong....but 'Big Phil' from Philly didn't look right with the shaved head.  He won many a Final Jeopardy from semi 'stupid' bids because others had the wrong response.  That night....  they all looked out of Jeopardy 'shape', if that makes sense.  Just your regular Joe's happy to have the paid flight back, semi basking in their well deserved glory.

....

As to watching.....we have to wait until the next night and check it out on youtube, as our local affiliate has the World Series, and their timing of the show is always incorrect.  I'm sorry, but MLB games have lasted longer than 2 1/2 hours since the last century ('Seinfeld' showed up for the recording from Monday's rainout), but what does one expect from a FOX station?

And.....  Rowan Ward has to be one of the top ten most annoying contestants this year.  Kudos to him/her, but.........
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on November 04, 2022, 09:24:18 AM
I've realized this year from your posts, that you tend to fall behind, thus I'll wait 3-5 days to post  (but not this far ;) :biggrin:)

Appreciate the courtesy, but don't worry about it at all.  Spoilers aren't a big deal for me when it comes to Jeopardy, and I know the risks.  If I didn't want spoilers, I'd stay away from the thread.

P.S.  I was very productive this weekend and got all caught up!   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on November 09, 2022, 09:35:13 AM
Anyone surprised by the results of the "exhibition" yesterday? I know it was a very casual environment, but I still found it quite interesting how easily Mattea just waxed Matt and Amy. Playing for keeps now....let's see if anything changes moving forward.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on November 09, 2022, 09:44:38 AM
Anyone surprised by the results of the "exhibition" yesterday? I know it was a very casual environment, but I still found it quite interesting how easily Mattea just waxed Matt and Amy. Playing for keeps now....let's see if anything changes moving forward.

I think it got preempted for election coverage where I live.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 09, 2022, 11:35:04 AM
It was fun, in the sense that they were clearly having fun with no pressure.

If it was for real, it wouldn't have been like that, methinks.

Best part was Ken Jennings screwing up and getting bleeped saying "Shit".
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on November 09, 2022, 03:06:16 PM
Anyone surprised by the results of the "exhibition" yesterday? I know it was a very casual environment, but I still found it quite interesting how easily Mattea just waxed Matt and Amy. Playing for keeps now....let's see if anything changes moving forward.

I think it got preempted for election coverage where I live.

Just watched on YouTube.  They all had differing levels of apathy.  Amy didn't even seem to care and rarely buzzed in.  Matt seemed just to be screwing around.  Mattea seemed to take it most seriously, but even she was very casual.  It'll be awfully different when there's actual money on the line.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on November 14, 2022, 04:25:56 AM
I disagree they weren't trying. Just because it's less serious doesn't mean you still don't want to win....esp. knowing you were among the 3 best.

Though, yes....the results "for real" proved to be a mixed bag. Amy certainly showed dominance again. But Matt and Mattea were tepid at best. Sam had an amazing round, and he is quite the character. But the biggest splash was from Andrew! Going all in on the Daily Double TWICE. WOW!

This week should be fun!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on November 14, 2022, 07:11:09 AM
The Ken Jennings blooper.  And I applaud the producers of 'Jeopardy', including Ken, for allowing this to air on the show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJJ-9uWXm8Q

As to Sam Baltry....I can't find his interview from last week, the Steve Martin lookalike reference, and his staring at the camera in regards to Steve being 'one of the world's most handsome men'  :lol :lol   but I did find the aftershow interviews of him doing 'the floss'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4ydc64cdaQ 

There is an air about him that reminds me of my dear departed father-in-law (who was just as bright and deadpan funny).

I disagree they weren't trying. Just because it's less serious doesn't mean you still don't want to win....esp. knowing you were among the 3 best.

Though, yes....the results "for real" proved to be a mixed bag. Amy certainly showed dominance again. But Matt and Mattea were tepid at best. Sam had an amazing round, and he is quite the character. But the biggest splash was from Andrew! Going all in on the Daily Double TWICE. WOW!

This week should be fun!

A shame the Big Three weren't playing for a charity that night, rather than magic beans :D

Andrew.....yeah.....that was bravery/foolhardiness.  The first one...'yeah, OK, that's daring'.  The second time was definitely crazy/insane/unwise, but it worked.

btw....we had to watch all of these over the weekend to catch up. 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on November 14, 2022, 09:25:21 AM
I got caught up over the weekend too.  I recall being frustrated about the first semi-final, but I can't now remember why.  The tournament felt a bit disjointed, and the "first to three" format is, I think, going to feel weird.

Go Sam!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on November 15, 2022, 09:47:31 AM
Watched the most recent episode of Celebrity Jeopardy last night.  Wil Wheaton destroyed the other two.  His excitement about his performance was palpable.  I like the way they're doing celebrity jeopardy with this tournament and longer episodes that give us time to get to know a bit about these folks.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on November 17, 2022, 06:03:39 AM
I was having a tough time with the Celebrity tournaments.....just based on the clues difficulty overall. I feel embarrassed saying the answers (questions) out loud in front of my wife. Granted, yes....I probably only even know less than 20% of the regular Jeopardy clues from show to show...but that's what makes it satisfying when you do get it right. Particularly if the contestants themselves didn't know.

And yes....you do get to know the celebrities (I knew Wil Wheaton, but had never heard of or seen many others....including Troian Bellisario...what an extremely nice looking human being she is), but an hour is still too long. Between the easy clues and the length....I am ready to check out early.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on November 17, 2022, 09:10:58 AM
Well....HOLY CRAP!  as to last night's 'Final Jeopardy'

https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/6695212/jeopardy-ken-jennings-bible-paul-new-testament/

which reminds me of my one time knowing that they 'screwed the pooch'

https://thejeopardyfan.com/2015/12/quick-recap-final-jeopardy-december-29-2015.html

The stakes weren't quite as high back then.....
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 17, 2022, 09:32:59 AM
Well....HOLY CRAP!  as to last night's 'Final Jeopardy'

https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/6695212/jeopardy-ken-jennings-bible-paul-new-testament/

which reminds me of my one time knowing that they 'screwed the pooch'

https://thejeopardyfan.com/2015/12/quick-recap-final-jeopardy-december-29-2015.html

The stakes weren't quite as high back then.....
Yeah, I almost jumped out of my seat when he said the answer was Hebrews.  While the King James Bible usually titles it something like "Paul's Epistle to the Hebrews", there is nothing in the text itself to indicate that it was written by Paul (unlike all of the other Pauline literature), and the writing style and content is distinctly different.  Most modern Bibles simply title it "The Epistle to the Hebrews" due to the pretty clear misattribution to Paul.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on November 17, 2022, 10:09:09 AM
Love the Mob calling for the complete turnover of the writing team.   

But here's the question:  "Paul’s letter to them is the New Testament epistle with the most Old Testament quotations."  The right answer ISN'T "Romans" (which is written by Paul, to my knowledge, and which has the SECOND most Old Testament quotations).  Neither fits the question perfectly as written, but grammatically, the question is more correctly "the New Testament epistle with the most Old Testament quotations".   
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on November 17, 2022, 11:56:32 AM
I haven't watched the episode yet, but this tells me I have officially forgotten most of what I learned in 12 years of Roman Catholic education.


Love the Mob calling for the complete turnover of the writing team.   

Sigh....   :facepalm:
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 18, 2022, 09:10:58 AM
Love the Mob calling for the complete turnover of the writing team.   

But here's the question:  "Paul’s letter to them is the New Testament epistle with the most Old Testament quotations."  The right answer ISN'T "Romans" (which is written by Paul, to my knowledge, and which has the SECOND most Old Testament quotations).  Neither fits the question perfectly as written, but grammatically, the question is more correctly "the New Testament epistle with the most Old Testament quotations".
Yeah, but that wasn't the question.  The misattribution to Paul is an egregious error.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on December 01, 2022, 06:14:48 AM
Love the Mob calling for the complete turnover of the writing team.   

But here's the question:  "Paul’s letter to them is the New Testament epistle with the most Old Testament quotations."  The right answer ISN'T "Romans" (which is written by Paul, to my knowledge, and which has the SECOND most Old Testament quotations).  Neither fits the question perfectly as written, but grammatically, the question is more correctly "the New Testament epistle with the most Old Testament quotations".
Yeah, but that wasn't the question.  The misattribution to Paul is an egregious error.

Is it though? Seriously. It's a relatively new development that misattributes this to Paul, and as I noted, the grammatical question (or, since it's Jeopardy, the answer) is "the New Testament epistle with the most Old Testament quotations".  Presumably anyone who answers "Romans" knows of the "Paul" controversy and so the logic is that that IS a mistake (or the more likely place for a mistake, given that the question is fatally flawed). 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 01, 2022, 07:04:59 AM
Love the Mob calling for the complete turnover of the writing team.   

But here's the question:  "Paul’s letter to them is the New Testament epistle with the most Old Testament quotations."  The right answer ISN'T "Romans" (which is written by Paul, to my knowledge, and which has the SECOND most Old Testament quotations).  Neither fits the question perfectly as written, but grammatically, the question is more correctly "the New Testament epistle with the most Old Testament quotations".
Yeah, but that wasn't the question.  The misattribution to Paul is an egregious error.

Is it though? Seriously. It's a relatively new development that misattributes this to Paul, and as I noted, the grammatical question (or, since it's Jeopardy, the answer) is "the New Testament epistle with the most Old Testament quotations".  Presumably anyone who answers "Romans" knows of the "Paul" controversy and so the logic is that that IS a mistake (or the more likely place for a mistake, given that the question is fatally flawed).
I actually heard them address this on the Jeopardy podcast.

For Bible-related questions, they just use the King James Version, and that's it.  They don't bother keeping up with modern scholarship or referencing more modern translations or anything else about the Bible, they just look at the KJV, which attributes the letter to Paul.  They simply don't use any scrutiny whatsoever, like they may do with other topics.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on December 01, 2022, 12:29:54 PM
Man....Cris is now in some very rarified air! He had a scare on Tuesday (I think it was)....came up with that BIG Daily Double. But he is now #5 in winnings. I've noticed that he is incorrect more than usual lately. And doing more guessing....even with bigger dollar amount clues. Though back into runaway form yesterday.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 01, 2022, 01:24:49 PM
Man....Cris is now in some very rarified air! He had a scare on Tuesday (I think it was)....came up with that BIG Daily Double. But he is now #5 in winnings. I've noticed that he is incorrect more than usual lately. And doing more guessing....even with bigger dollar amount clues. Though back into runaway form yesterday.
Yeah, he's VERY impressive.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on December 09, 2022, 05:45:56 AM
This seems to happen seemingly more often than not. A champion goes on an extended run....then finally loses. And the person who beat him loses the next game! Wow.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on December 11, 2022, 02:09:11 PM
Soooo...I got a call last week from a number I didn't recognize, so I almost didn't answer but I did anyway.  And I'm glad I did.  It was a contestant coordinator from Jeopardy.  Nothing firm yet, but she did ask about my availability over the next 2-3 months and confirmed all my info.  Knocking on wood!

And I gotta start working on things like literature and modern pop culture.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Orbert on December 11, 2022, 03:59:34 PM
Cool!  Hope you get to go on there and kick some ass!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on December 19, 2022, 05:36:55 PM
Time flies......kudos to Amy Schneider and her championship.  I liked the byes, the finals format, etc.  And Sam Buttrell !  Was a tad annoyed with Andrew always hitting the big 'Jeopardy' bids.

The same with Chris afterwards, though I loved his humor.

Soooo...I got a call last week from a number I didn't recognize, so I almost didn't answer but I did anyway.  And I'm glad I did.  It was a contestant coordinator from Jeopardy.  Nothing firm yet, but she did ask about my availability over the next 2-3 months and confirmed all my info.  Knocking on wood!

And I gotta start working on things like literature and modern pop culture.

Don't look at me for help! ;) :D  Best of luck! :tup
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on December 20, 2022, 07:19:59 AM
There needs to be SOME shoutout to DTF.  I think you should where Adami's "Stadler" tie while on the air.  I really do.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on December 20, 2022, 09:19:35 AM
There needs to be SOME shoutout to DTF.  I think you should where Adami's "Stadler" tie while on the air.  I really do.

Not familiar with that tie, but I could make oblique references to your avatars over the years:  Belichick, Trevor Horn and whoever's body your Muppet avatar is sitting on.   :lol
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Adami on December 20, 2022, 09:22:05 AM
There needs to be SOME shoutout to DTF.  I think you should where Adami's "Stadler" tie while on the air.  I really do.

Not familiar with that tie, but I could make oblique references to your avatars over the years:  Belichick, Trevor Horn and whoever's body your Muppet avatar is sitting on.   :lol

I'd be happy to loan you the tie. It's worth it.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on December 20, 2022, 09:31:17 AM
TBF, the odds of me suiting up are probably lower than the odds of the Atlanta Falcons winning the Super Bowl this season.  I do appreciate the offer.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on December 20, 2022, 09:48:59 AM
There needs to be SOME shoutout to DTF.  I think you should where Adami's "Stadler" tie while on the air.  I really do.

Not familiar with that tie, but I could make oblique references to your avatars over the years:  Belichick, Trevor Horn and whoever's body your Muppet avatar is sitting on.   :lol

If you draw a complete blank on Final Jeopardy, steak dinner at your choice of restaurant if you just write "Stadler" in as your answer. ;) :) :) :) :)

Oh, and it's Alex Lifeson, for the record.  See, I'm doing my part to prep you!!!! 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on December 20, 2022, 10:12:45 AM
There needs to be SOME shoutout to DTF.  I think you should where Adami's "Stadler" tie while on the air.  I really do.

Not familiar with that tie, but I could make oblique references to your avatars over the years:  Belichick, Trevor Horn and whoever's body your Muppet avatar is sitting on.   :lol

If you draw a complete blank on Final Jeopardy, steak dinner at your choice of restaurant if you just write "Stadler" in as your answer. ;) :) :) :) :)

Oh, and it's Alex Lifeson, for the record.  See, I'm doing my part to prep you!!!!

LOL!  "I'll take DTF Avatars for $1,000, Ken."
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: jingle.boy on December 20, 2022, 12:10:32 PM
There needs to be SOME shoutout to DTF.  I think you should where Adami's "Stadler" tie while on the air.  I really do.

Not familiar with that tie, but I could make oblique references to your avatars over the years:  Belichick, Trevor Horn and whoever's body your Muppet avatar is sitting on.   :lol

If you draw a complete blank on Final Jeopardy, steak dinner at your choice of restaurant if you just write "Stadler" in as your answer. ;) :) :) :) :)

Oh, and it's Alex Lifeson, for the record.  See, I'm doing my part to prep you!!!!

LOL!  "I'll take DTF Avatars for $1,000, Ken."

A Vlasto Day reference will suffice.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: faizoff on December 20, 2022, 12:13:37 PM
Soooo...I got a call last week from a number I didn't recognize, so I almost didn't answer but I did anyway.  And I'm glad I did.  It was a contestant coordinator from Jeopardy.  Nothing firm yet, but she did ask about my availability over the next 2-3 months and confirmed all my info.  Knocking on wood!

And I gotta start working on things like literature and modern pop culture.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Adami on December 20, 2022, 12:13:54 PM
I second putting Stadler as an answer.

That way it can be said on live tv that “Stadler is wrong”
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on December 20, 2022, 01:32:44 PM
I second putting Stadler as an answer.

That way it can be said on live tv that “Stadler is wrong”

You would have unassailable video evidence. 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on January 04, 2023, 09:28:53 AM
Ray's run is over....quite a run he had! The game before he barely won, and so you just wondered when it might actually happen.

New champ, Sy, quite a character! He wagered $5 on a Daily Double clue for "Kid Cuisine"....then missed it to prove his lack of confidence....then said "now you know why I only wagered $5"!   :laugh:
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Dream Team on January 05, 2023, 06:10:11 AM
I started out liking Ray but kinda got sick of his constant rocking back and forth. We'll see how long this new guy lasts.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on January 05, 2023, 01:23:06 PM
Great news!  I got a call from the casting director today.  I'm slated to be a "local alternate" in early February.  I likely won't play, but I'll come back on their next taping day later in February!  The shows that are taped those days will air in late April/early May.  I'll post the specific date when it gets closer.

Gotta buckle down and get some facts hammered in.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: faizoff on January 05, 2023, 02:33:55 PM
That's encouraging! Fingers crossed you get picked.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on January 25, 2023, 09:42:33 AM
I started out liking Ray but kinda got sick of his constant rocking back and forth. We'll see how long this new guy lasts.

It's been a while, but on the Fbook site, he explained that he had some sort of back or hip problem, and his swaying helped reduce irritation in his legs.  I don't understand why the contestants can't sit down.

My peeve....with him and a growing list, is saying 'Please' for every single clue request.  Once is fine, after that, knock it off! >:(

A typical Jersey contestant might go:  'Give me 'Sports for two hundred....or else!' :lol

On the 13th, categories 4-6 in the 'Jeopardy Round' were: 

(https://i.imgur.com/2TNBeIt.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/rhkzUNN.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/xPAKAp6.jpg)

 :tup

(pix added 2/2)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on January 25, 2023, 09:56:48 AM
I started out liking Ray but kinda got sick of his constant rocking back and forth. We'll see how long this new guy lasts.

It's been a while, but on the Fbook site, he explained that he had some sort of back or hip problem, and his swaying helped reduce irritation in his legs.  I don't understand why the contestants can't sit down.

My peeve....with him and a growing list, is saying 'Please' for every single clue request.  Once is fine, after that, knock it off! >:(

A typical Jersey contestant might go:  'Give me 'Sports for two hundred....or else!' :lol

On the 13th, categories 4-6 in the 'Jeopardy Round' were:  "You Brought Me Fame & Fortune',  '& Everything That Goes With It', and  'I Thank You All'

I ran across footage of one of the Art Fleming hosted episodes, and I'm pretty sure they were all sitting.

I think it was when I did an in-person audition for Sports Jeopardy that we were told to abbreviate the categories.  The reason?  It saves time and, over the course of 30 clues, it helps to ensure that all of the clues get used.  When I got up to play a mock game, the first thing out of my mouth was, "Can I get '[FULL category name] for [dollar amount],' please."  As soon as it came out of my mouth, I admonished myself in my mind for doing it.

I enjoy when they come up with the clever ties between categories.

I'm a few days behind again, and last night, I watched the episode where the Final J clue was:  "Mimal, sometimes said to be the silhouette of a chef or elf, stands for Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, and these 2 states."  I was completely astounded that none of the three got it correct (although, apparently, some Jeopardy fans on social media found the question somewhat unintelligible.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on January 25, 2023, 01:37:12 PM
I get it, but I hate when the contestants abbreviate.   Just me.  I also text in complete sentences. :)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on January 31, 2023, 07:37:10 PM
This current champion annoys the ever loving fuck out of me.

That is all.   :lol
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 01, 2023, 08:19:39 AM
This current champion annoys the ever loving fuck out of me.

That is all.   :lol
My family and I feel the same way.

His tics and mannerisms just piss me off.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on February 01, 2023, 10:44:28 AM
I didn't care for the guy who looked like Christopher Reeve, but I think he got eliminated at the end of last week, and I don't remember the guy who beat him.  Without any football or hockey for the next 10 days, I'll have plenty of time to stay current with Jeopardy.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on February 02, 2023, 05:14:26 AM
This current champion annoys the ever loving fuck out of me.

That is all.   :lol
My family and I feel the same way.

His tics and mannerisms just piss me off.

Add my wife and myself to the list.  His 'shooting hoops and doing a three' with his fingers, indicating his wins during the intros was so juvenile.  And his actions when getting a 'Daily Double' correct.   :tdwn  Thank goodness, he's gone :tup

How about the even worse past winner?  Talk about a sore 'winner'...    https://bestlifeonline.com/james-holzhauer-yogesh-raut-news/
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on February 02, 2023, 07:40:29 AM
I don't watch Jeopardy as much as I'd like to (it's lost something without Trebek, though I like Ken Jennings) but if this is the way that "reality TV" creeps into the Jeopardy universe - which always seemed to exist outside of the reality TV tropes - I'm probably going to be watching even less moving forward.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 02, 2023, 07:53:51 AM
I don't watch Jeopardy as much as I'd like to (it's lost something without Trebek, though I like Ken Jennings) but if this is the way that "reality TV" creeps into the Jeopardy universe - which always seemed to exist outside of the reality TV tropes - I'm probably going to be watching even less moving forward.
It's not, in 99% of contestants.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on February 02, 2023, 08:27:07 AM
I don't watch Jeopardy as much as I'd like to (it's lost something without Trebek, though I like Ken Jennings) but if this is the way that "reality TV" creeps into the Jeopardy universe - which always seemed to exist outside of the reality TV tropes - I'm probably going to be watching even less moving forward.
It's not, in 99% of contestants.

I agree with this.  I'm a daily watcher and the reason why these contestants stand out like a sore thumb is BECAUSE they are so rare.

I literally cheered last night when that sweet librarian beat that egotistical twerp.  Good riddance.

And yes, Dragon Attack, I saw that last week.  That contestant also gave off a very unlikable vibe but not in the same way as this most recent winner.  Sore loser is right!  At least the kid last night was - or seemed to be - gracious in his defeat.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on February 02, 2023, 09:45:56 AM
How about the even worse past winner?  Talk about a sore 'winner'...    https://bestlifeonline.com/james-holzhauer-yogesh-raut-news/

LOL...WTF?!


I don't watch Jeopardy as much as I'd like to (it's lost something without Trebek, though I like Ken Jennings) but if this is the way that "reality TV" creeps into the Jeopardy universe - which always seemed to exist outside of the reality TV tropes - I'm probably going to be watching even less moving forward.
It's not, in 99% of contestants.

I imagine I'll have some insight into this soon.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: SoundscapeMN on February 03, 2023, 06:49:15 AM
My wife and I caught the Primetime Celebrity Jeopardy episode last night, almost on accident (we couldn't find our remote, lol).

Between the 3 contestants, Wil Wheaton, Patton Oswalt and Ike Barinholtz; knowing those 3, I would not have predicted who won.

They showed a montage of funny moments throughout the season, including with BJ Novak and Michael Cera, which we never caught, but might be up for watching now. I wonder if episodes are available on Demand or on the Jeopardy or ABC website.

Also funny how with Primetime Celebrity Jeopardy on Thursday night, Mayim almost competes against herself per her show Call Me Kat is on FOX only 30 minutes later, after Celebrity Jeopardy ends, at 8:30 (Central).
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 03, 2023, 07:49:05 AM
They showed a montage of funny moments throughout the season, including with BJ Novak and Michael Cera, which we never caught, but might be up for watching now. I wonder if episodes are available on Demand or on the Jeopardy or ABC website.
They are on one of the streaming sites.  I think Hulu.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on February 28, 2023, 10:46:26 AM
Great news!  I got a call from the casting director today.  I'm slated to be a "local alternate" in early February.  I likely won't play, but I'll come back on their next taping day later in February!  The shows that are taped those days will air in late April/early May.  I'll post the specific date when it gets closer.

Gotta buckle down and get some facts hammered in.

Well...the deed is done.  I was "local alternate" for episodes that were shot on February 8 (and which will air the last week of April), and I actually played yesterday (tune in the first week of May).  All I can say for now is that it was a great experience, and Stadler does not owe me a steak dinner.  I met a lot of really cool people.  The contestant staff could not have been better, and the whole crew was like a machine.  I'll post some more at the appropriate time.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: faizoff on February 28, 2023, 12:32:30 PM
Wow that's awesome. Congrats!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on February 28, 2023, 02:28:41 PM
Great news!  I got a call from the casting director today.  I'm slated to be a "local alternate" in early February.  I likely won't play, but I'll come back on their next taping day later in February!  The shows that are taped those days will air in late April/early May.  I'll post the specific date when it gets closer.

Gotta buckle down and get some facts hammered in.

Well...the deed is done.  I was "local alternate" for episodes that were shot on February 8 (and which will air the last week of April), and I actually played yesterday (tune in the first week of May).  All I can say for now is that it was a great experience, and Stadler does not owe me a steak dinner.  I met a lot of really cool people.  The contestant staff could not have been better, and the whole crew was like a machine.  I'll post some more at the appropriate time.

Dammit.

:)

Happy for you and can't wait for the date!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on March 01, 2023, 07:47:15 AM
Congratulations, Paul !!!!   :tup

Were the categories somewhat in your wheelhouse?  Along the lines of 'Judas Priest Discography', 'Superb Owl History', 'Baseball HOF', or more like 'Africa', 'South America Rivers', 'Greek Mythology', 'Countries that end with 'stan''?

Did 'never been in my kitchen?' ever enter your mind during the last month? :D

'Who Is Stadler?'  would have been a classic.  Then again, haven't many asked that for years here? ;)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on March 01, 2023, 09:10:47 AM
Congratulations, Paul !!!!   :tup

Were the categories somewhat in your wheelhouse?  Along the lines of 'Judas Priest Discography', 'Superb Owl History', 'Baseball HOF', or more like 'Africa', 'South America Rivers', 'Greek Mythology', 'Countries that end with 'stan''?

Did 'never been in my kitchen?' ever enter your mind during the last month? :D

'Who Is Stadler?'  would have been a classic.  Then again, haven't many asked that for years here? ;)

Thanks!  Don't want to say much about the categories, but one of the ones you mentioned was up there (or something very similar).  I'll also say that, of all the categories I saw on Monday, I only remember about 3-4 of them.  As you might imagine, once it starts, it goes REALLY quickly.  I definitely had Stadler's offer in my head when we were preparing for Final J.  In real time, there's about 5 minutes between the category reveal and the clue reveal.  Plenty of time to think about lots of things.  I wrote some notes about the experience after my trip up as "local alternate," and I'll be adding to that regarding Monday.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hunnus2000 on March 01, 2023, 09:19:48 AM
Congratulations, Paul !!!!   :tup

Were the categories somewhat in your wheelhouse?  Along the lines of 'Judas Priest Discography', 'Superb Owl History', 'Baseball HOF', or more like 'Africa', 'South America Rivers', 'Greek Mythology', 'Countries that end with 'stan''?

Did 'never been in my kitchen?' ever enter your mind during the last month? :D

'Who Is Stadler?'  would have been a classic.  Then again, haven't many asked that for years here? ;)

Thanks!  Don't want to say much about the categories, but one of the ones you mentioned was up there (or something very similar).  I'll also say that, of all the categories I saw on Monday, I only remember about 3-4 of them.  As you might imagine, once it starts, it goes REALLY quickly.  I definitely had Stadler's offer in my head when we were preparing for Final J.  In real time, there's about 5 minutes between the category reveal and the clue reveal.  Plenty of time to think about lots of things.  I wrote some notes about the experience after my trip up as "local alternate," and I'll be adding to that regarding Monday.

I have a question and a comment:
1) Do the 2nd and 3rd place contestants get to keep their money?

Comment - I've never liked the wager concept in final Jeopardy where you get the subject, place wager AND THEN you get the actual question. I just think that the subject is too amigious to make a smart wager but that's just me.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on March 01, 2023, 09:37:46 AM
I have a question and a comment:
1) Do the 2nd and 3rd place contestants get to keep their money?

Nope.  Second place gets $2k.  Third place gets $1k.  You can see this at the end of the game.  They'll replace the second and third place contestants' scores with "$2,000" and "$1,000."

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/06/04/arts/00tv1/00tv1-superJumbo.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 01, 2023, 10:28:53 AM
Great news!  I got a call from the casting director today.  I'm slated to be a "local alternate" in early February.  I likely won't play, but I'll come back on their next taping day later in February!  The shows that are taped those days will air in late April/early May.  I'll post the specific date when it gets closer.

Gotta buckle down and get some facts hammered in.

Well...the deed is done.  I was "local alternate" for episodes that were shot on February 8 (and which will air the last week of April), and I actually played yesterday (tune in the first week of May).  All I can say for now is that it was a great experience, and Stadler does not owe me a steak dinner.  I met a lot of really cool people.  The contestant staff could not have been better, and the whole crew was like a machine.  I'll post some more at the appropriate time.
Wow!  Congratulations!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on March 03, 2023, 03:46:46 PM
Yeah - PG, I also offer my congratulations and I look forward to seeing your episode(s).

Just curious if the show makes you sign something about not disclosing the specifics of the show(s) before air time?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on March 03, 2023, 03:58:29 PM
Yeah - PG, I also offer my congratulations and I look forward to seeing your episode(s).

Just curious if the show makes you sign something about not disclosing the specifics of the show(s) before air time?

Thanks!  We signed a bunch of stuff via DocuSign, but I didn't read any of it (as a lawyer, I probably shouldn't admit that!).  We were told verbally that we could tell friends and family about the outcome but that we shouldn't post anything on social media until they send us our pictures with the host a week or so before the shows air.  As far as I know, there are no restrictions once the episodes have aired.  Of course, there are studio audiences who know what happened, and I don't know if they were made to sign releases, so....
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on March 14, 2023, 06:24:37 PM
I have a question and a comment:
1) Do the 2nd and 3rd place contestants get to keep their money?

Nope.  Second place gets $2k.  Third place gets $1k.  You can see this at the end of the game.  They'll replace the second and third place contestants' scores with "$2,000" and "$1,000."

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/06/04/arts/00tv1/00tv1-superJumbo.jpg)

Interesting that you used that particular picture.....

Anyhoo.....  Mayim was better for the High School Reunion shows than the last time we saw her.  Much more restrained, with only a couple of "YES!" responses.  Sadly, I guess she'll be returning some time in April until this season's taping ends in June.

Stephen Webb:  obviously bright and gifted.  And a world traveler, as the point is made of a different country he's visited during his interviews.  But his stories sure are long and boring.  That's OK, but his 'Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhm, I'll take <insert category> for $1600, then 'uhhhhhhhhhhhm, I'll take <insert a different category> for $1200, 'uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhm I'll take <insert yet another category> for $2000 drove us both up a wall enough that we'll wait until he is gone.

It also seems like there's been a couple of edits to remove those uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhms from the last couple of shows.

 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on March 15, 2023, 07:01:44 AM
Paul, do you watch The Chase?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on March 15, 2023, 11:47:50 AM
Interesting that you used that particular picture.....

Anyhoo.....  Mayim was better for the High School Reunion shows than the last time we saw her.  Much more restrained, with only a couple of "YES!" responses.  Sadly, I guess she'll be returning some time in April until this season's taping ends in June.

It wasn't intentional that I used that pic.  I don't remember the Google search term I used, but I recall whatever I searched getting a bunch of hits that weren't what I was looking for, and I think this was the only one that came up that illustrated it.

Mayim Bialik was return starting with the episode that airs May 1.  I have no problem with her at all.


Paul, do you watch The Chase?

I do, and I think we've had more than few discussions about it.  My DVR hasn't recorded a new episode in quite a while, though.  Mark Labett appears no longer to be part of the chaser group, but he's been showing up on Master Minds.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on March 15, 2023, 11:54:29 AM
Paul, do you watch The Chase?

I do, and I think we've had more than few discussions about it.  My DVR hasn't recorded a new episode in quite a while, though.  Mark Labett appears no longer to be part of the chaser group, but he's been showing up on Master Minds.

I recall that; it's a little different and I think, better.  Nothing massively different, but the current crop of Chasers is good - I'm a particular fan of Brad Rutter, James and Victoria Groce, though I don't mind Brandon and Buzzy - and Sara Haines has really blossomed as host.   My only beef with the show is the beef I have with most reality TV that pulls people from the population; too many of them are weirdo freaks.  You excluded, of course!  :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on March 15, 2023, 12:07:14 PM
I recall that; it's a little different and I think, better.  Nothing massively different, but the current crop of Chasers is good - I'm a particular fan of Brad Rutter, James and Victoria Groce, though I don't mind Brandon and Buzzy - and Sara Haines has really blossomed as host.   My only beef with the show is the beef I have with most reality TV that pulls people from the population; too many of them are weirdo freaks.  You excluded, of course!  :) :) :) :)

Oh, if you only knew!

Sara Haines is ok, but I miss Brooke Burns in that role.  She doesn't seem to have as much personality on Master Minds.  I don't really like James, but I'm not sure why.  Victoria seems to have been on a disproportionate number of times.  She's ok.  Buzzy seems never to be on (except in the back room).  I like Buzzy and Brad.  Brandon seems to be looking for a discernable personality, so the jury is still out.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on March 15, 2023, 12:36:17 PM
I recall that; it's a little different and I think, better.  Nothing massively different, but the current crop of Chasers is good - I'm a particular fan of Brad Rutter, James and Victoria Groce, though I don't mind Brandon and Buzzy - and Sara Haines has really blossomed as host.   My only beef with the show is the beef I have with most reality TV that pulls people from the population; too many of them are weirdo freaks.  You excluded, of course!  :) :) :) :)

Oh, if you only knew!

Sara Haines is ok, but I miss Brooke Burns in that role.  She doesn't seem to have as much personality on Master Minds.  I don't really like James, but I'm not sure why.  Victoria seems to have been on a disproportionate number of times.  She's ok.  Buzzy seems never to be on (except in the back room).  I like Buzzy and Brad.  Brandon seems to be looking for a discernable personality, so the jury is still out.

I LOVED Brooke Burns, so no argument there; I had to warm to Sara (and still not 100% of the way there).  James is polarizing; I HATED him as a contestant on The Chase as well as on Jeopardy.  But I warmed to him as well here; he's actually pretty funny. 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on March 15, 2023, 03:15:00 PM
James has a wry sense of humor, but it seems always to be cloaked in an air of douchiness.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on March 23, 2023, 09:41:07 AM
Well, there have been two not so wise bids this week on the last 'Double Jeopardy' clues, both very late in the rounds.  Last night's has had a lot of 'Cliff Clavin' comments included on Fbook, because it had to be one of the worst twenty bids ever on the show.  Maybe even worst ten   :facepalm: 

Totally unnecessary, and quite costly.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on March 23, 2023, 10:13:50 AM
Well, there have been two not so wise bids this week on the last 'Double Jeopardy' clues, both very late in the rounds.  Last night's has had a lot of 'Cliff Clavin' comments included on Fbook, because it had to be one of the worst twenty bids ever on the show.  Maybe even worst ten   :facepalm: 

Totally unnecessary, and quite costly.

Last Thursday was TERRIBLE.  Scores going into FJ:

Stephen:  $22,400
Sarah:  $17,600
Andrew:  DNP (negative score and a total non-factor throughout the game)

The category was 1980s Movies, and the clue was, "A writer & producer of this movie said he wanted it to be like a Western or James Bond film, 'only it takes place in the '30s.'"  My thought was Unforgiven (also thought about the untouchables), but I wasn't sure if that was '80s or '90s (it was the latter).  Neither Stephen nor Sarah got it correct (he guessed Top Secret, and she guessed the 1970s musical comedy featuring all child actors Bugsy Malone).

Stephen should have bet - and did bet - $12,801 so that he'd win if Sarah were correct and doubled her money.  Since he was wrong, he ended up with $9,599.

Sarah should have assumed Stephen would do exactly what he did.  In other words, if Stephen is right, she cannot win no matter what she bets.  Therefore, she should have wagered just enough to win if she gets it right and Stephen gets it wrong - i.e., $4,801.  If she's right and Stephen is wrong, she wins.  AND, wagering $4,801 means that, if both are wrong, she wins ($17,600 - $4,801 = $12,799.  But NO....  Sarah inexplicably bet $15,000 and ended up with $2,600.  There is absolutely no logical reason to wager that much in that situation!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Orbert on March 23, 2023, 11:58:51 AM
It sounds like basically she didn't do the same pre-calculations that you did.  I've never broken it down that way, although obviously the algebra involved isn't that complex; the formula should've been easy enough for her to apply on the spot.  If she knew to do that.  Why wouldn't she?  I have no idea.  I mean, in hindsight it seems pretty simple.  If it comes down to two players and you're behind, your bet should be this (insert formula). 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on March 23, 2023, 01:48:30 PM
It sounds like basically she didn't do the same pre-calculations that you did.  I've never broken it down that way, although obviously the algebra involved isn't that complex; the formula should've been easy enough for her to apply on the spot.  If she knew to do that.  Why wouldn't she?  I have no idea.  I mean, in hindsight it seems pretty simple.  If it comes down to two players and you're behind, your bet should be this (insert formula).

I know I'd like to think I'm pretty bright, and good at math, and I often shake my head at what I would do in the same circumstances.  I know there must be a formula/approach that should be followed, but damned if I know what it is.  :)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on March 23, 2023, 02:04:20 PM
It sounds like basically she didn't do the same pre-calculations that you did.  I've never broken it down that way, although obviously the algebra involved isn't that complex; the formula should've been easy enough for her to apply on the spot.  If she knew to do that.  Why wouldn't she?  I have no idea.  I mean, in hindsight it seems pretty simple.  If it comes down to two players and you're behind, your bet should be this (insert formula).

Pretty much.  And the contestants get plenty of time to do whatever calculations they think they need to do.  In a 2-person situation (or even a 3-person situation where the third place contestant is out of the picture, it's a pretty basic strategy for the second place person.  Of course, the category can figure into it, but that's more so for the first place contestant than the second place person.  I can't think of any category-based reason for Sarah's bet.


It sounds like basically she didn't do the same pre-calculations that you did.  I've never broken it down that way, although obviously the algebra involved isn't that complex; the formula should've been easy enough for her to apply on the spot.  If she knew to do that.  Why wouldn't she?  I have no idea.  I mean, in hindsight it seems pretty simple.  If it comes down to two players and you're behind, your bet should be this (insert formula).

I know I'd like to think I'm pretty bright, and good at math, and I often shake my head at what I would do in the same circumstances.  I know there must be a formula/approach that should be followed, but damned if I know what it is.  :)

I know there's a bunch of wagering strategy on the internet, but I'll confess I've never read any of it.  That said, it all seems pretty simple:

If you're in first, the most basic strategy is to bet enough that, if you're right, you'll win even if the second place person doubles his/her money.  If it's a category where you're not comfortable, then it becomes more difficult.  You can bet nothing, but that will backfire if it's a relatively easy FJ and everyone gets it right.  Of course, if it's a runaway, it's a bit of a no-brainer unless it's your best category ever that the others aren't likely to know.

If you're in second and it's not a runaway, you kinda have to assume the first place person will bet enough to beat you if he/she is right and you double your money.  Therefore, the strategy I already outlined comes into play.  You can also try the strategy of betting nothing and hope that every gets it wrong.  That's about the only situation where the category really comes into play for the second place person.

There's not usually much strategy for the third place person unless the second and third place folks are close or the first and second place folks are way ahead of third place but the gap between them is less than the amount the third place person has.  In that case, the third place person should bet nothing and hope that the other two get it wrong.

I'll post some more thoughts on this when we get to the games I saw in person and played in.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on March 25, 2023, 11:58:46 AM
Well, there have been two not so wise bids this week on the last 'Double Jeopardy' clues, both very late in the rounds.  Last night's has had a lot of 'Cliff Clavin' comments included on Fbook, because it had to be one of the worst twenty bids ever on the show.  Maybe even worst ten   :facepalm: 

Totally unnecessary, and quite costly.

Oh my god...I just watched Wednesday's episode.  Karen had a completely insurmountable lead - $21,800 to $7,100 to $6,400 - with only $3,200 worth of clues remaining.  She selected an $800 clue and gets the DD (leaving only $2,400 worth of clues).  And she wagers $10,000??!!!  And then stares blankly at what I thought was a relatively easy clue.

She still had the lead heading into FJ, but it was only $11,400 to $8,700 to $7,200, and botches a relatively easy FJ!  How you possibly wager anything more than the minimum $5 on that DD is utterly unfathomable.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on March 26, 2023, 01:03:01 PM
^
That's the one I was talking about. 

A runaway win....... 'Clavined'!   :facepalm:

The night before:  defending champion A:  $21,400  Contestant B:  $12,400.  'A' gets the DJ as the very last clue. If 'A' bids $3401 or more, and is correct, she's the runaway winner.  Incorrect, and it comes down to FJ.  Well.....she only bid $3000.   Oops. 

She did get it correct, but still had to get the FJ clue correct to win.  Ken did mention that at the beginning of the next show.

The best bidder, and often the luckiest, was Ryan Long, who won fourteen times last year (the then Uber driver from Philly).  I think he won four or five without getting the FJ clue correct, because the second place person was incorrect (that always helps), but he didn't bid an amount that would have been greater than the 'second place amount x2 plus $1' .  He wasn't comfortable with the categories, took his chances, and they worked.  Had he wagered larger amounts and been wrong, the 3rd place person would have won a couple of those.

One of the best 'feel good' stories of big winners in our book.

(https://www.jeopardy.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image_960_/public/2022-06/JEP38_JBuzz_Ryan-Long_Exit_Interview_Thumbs_v2.jpg?itok=OGSy1YH5)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on April 07, 2023, 04:17:29 PM
Current champ Brian getting a lot of hate mail.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on April 10, 2023, 09:00:26 AM
Current champ Brian getting a lot of hate mail.

Yeah, the comparison to Hitler is uncalled for but WTF is up with his suit jacket?  Does Jeopardy not have a team of people helping with hair and make up who could've let him know that he needed a tailor stat?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on April 10, 2023, 11:17:43 AM
Current champ Brian getting a lot of hate mail.

Yeah, the comparison to Hitler is uncalled for but WTF is up with his suit jacket?  Does Jeopardy not have a team of people helping with hair and make up who could've let him know that he needed a tailor stat?

I didn't pay a ton of attention to what he wore on Thursday's episode (the last one I watched over the weekend), but I did notice that his suit kinda looked like something he's owned for a while and he may have lost some weight.  That said, the resemblance to Hitler is pretty uncanny.

As far as wardrobe, there's a couple of people/a staff that will tell you if something won't work on camera.  They spent a while on me removing cat fur.  But they're constrained by what the contestants bring with them.  Not sure exactly what the hair people could have done with him.  I don't have enough hair for them to have done anything with me, but I doubt they'd do a complete re-style.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on April 10, 2023, 05:43:40 PM
OMG removing cat fur would be me too!   :lol

Yeah, maybe he lost some weight but it looked pretty strange on camera.  I would think a few garment clips and a fabric steamer would've helped him immensely. 

He looked a little shocked when he lost too.  :P
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on April 25, 2023, 10:49:23 AM
On the 'Jeopardy Complainers Are The Worst' FBook page, there was a thread about that guy's looks. 

Me:
I’m not posting to be mean spirited, but I instantly hit ‘pause’, turned to my wife, and asked ‘omg, who does he look like?’

John Doe:
There are some thoughts that are better left private and not made public. It’s exactly this piling on that’s the problem. people think it’s ok to say something, just because someone else said it first. You seriously don’t see how this is bullying?

Me:
There's no bullying or piling on here. I posted what I asked my wife, and did so without mentioning anyone's name. He actually looked more like Larry Hovis.

John Doe:
Right, and how could publicly comparing him to a monster possibly be offensive : /

Me:
Larry Hovis?

*****************

Moving on......

Lots of 3rd place players going into FJ over the past three weeks that could have won had they just bid zero in FJ, or kept themselves in the running if the other two contestants had both been wrong.

Always takes me back to this match:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShV5nNqQKyc  What was the 3rd place person thinking?

Just saw this one for the first time  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC7M3K8aYqo  Now THIS was a Cliff Clavin bid by the champ in the first clip :facepalm:

The show seems to have added a few quite juvenile categories lately.

One gripe:  "Beatle 'S'ongs" last night:  How is 'Something in the way she moves' considered a correct response? :huh:  And they only got one other 'correct'.  Shame!  Shame! ;)

'Jeopardy' is always taped in this household.  Paul.....we're looking forward to next Tuesday's show :tup
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on April 25, 2023, 12:47:19 PM
Lots of 3rd place players going into FJ over the past three weeks that could have won had they just bid zero in FJ, or kept themselves in the running if the other two contestants had both been wrong.

Always takes me back to this match:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShV5nNqQKyc  What was the 3rd place person thinking?

Yeah...there's ZERO reason to wager anything there.  Two players tied with more than 2x what the 3rd place person has.  The top two players are either going to wager everything (or everything except $1) or wager nothing.  Under no scenario will the 3rd place player win by doubling her money.


The show seems to have added a few quite juvenile categories lately.

??

One thing I've noticed is that there are a LOT of categories where the category name doesn't clearly indicate the subject matter or which is susceptible for questions in any number of subjects.  From last night's episode:  "synonyms/antonyms," "Y is the only vowel," "wherefore art thou," "local boy," and "made good."


One gripe:  "Beatle 'S'ongs" last night:  How is 'Something in the way she moves' considered a correct response? :huh:  And they only got one other 'correct'.  Shame!  Shame! ;)

It's because "Something" was the first thing he said after "what is...."  This sort of thing was part of the rules explanation they gave us ahead of time.  "What is...Something in the way she moves?" is correct because they basically disregard everything after the actual title.  On the other hand, if someone had said, "What is...after the Savoy Truffle?" it would've been wrong.

A similar rule relates to the omission of articles in the name of an artistic work.  "What is...Long and Winding Road?" is acceptable even though the correct name of the song is "THE Long and Winding Road."  However, "What is...I am Walrus?" would be wrong.


I have to say that it was VERY interesting watching last night's episode, which I got to see as it was played.  I didn't really talk with any of the three contestants from yesterday's episode since they went first.  The rest of this week's contestants I actually got to talk with a bit, so that'll be even more fun!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on April 25, 2023, 03:29:09 PM
Thank you for all of that. :tup

Looking forward to the future stories
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on April 27, 2023, 01:56:07 PM
I'm curious what y'all thought about the Final Jeopardy clues so far this week:

- MONDAY:  U.S. Geography - Interstate 25 connects these 2 state capitals, 1st & 2nd in elevation, & in between runs through No. 3, Denver.

- TUESDAY:  TV History - The 1980s “Magnum, P.I.” used a soundstage of this long-running drama that had just ended, & even referred to its lead character.

- WEDNESDAY:  Hollywood History - Last name of 3 men who missed the 1927 premiere of “The Jazz Singer” because a 4th of that name had died hours before.

Monday is probably pretty easy if you understand the Interstate Highway numbering system.  I've also driven the route.  Annee is taking some heat on social media for her answer of Albany and Boston.  She didn't stick around after her game was done, so I didn't get a chance to talk to her, but I'm guessing she misread or misunderstood the clue.  Probably not surprising that the Canadian was thwarted by this one.

I thought Tuesday was super easy and was surprised no one got it.  I think pretty much all of us watching from the staging area had this.

I also thought Wednesday was pretty easy although, when they revealed Jesse's answer of Marx, I had a brief moment of, "oh...that could be right."  Johanna's answer of Jolsen didn't seem to make a whole lot of sense.

I also have to give props to Johanna.  She was super nervous before her game.  However, her description of her novel (which I believe was heavily edited for broadcast) sounded bat shit crazy to me.  I looked it up on Amazon afterwards ( https://www.amazon.com/Pigs-Johanna-Stoberock/dp/1597090441/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2UNHG7H5YC418&keywords=pigs+johanna+stoberock&qid=1682625225&sprefix=stoberock%2Caps%2C182&sr=8-1 ) and it made more sense.  Still kinda crazy though, but she was a super nice lady.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 27, 2023, 02:48:54 PM
I'm curious what y'all thought about the Final Jeopardy clues so far this week:

- MONDAY:  U.S. Geography - Interstate 25 connects these 2 state capitals, 1st & 2nd in elevation, & in between runs through No. 3, Denver.

- TUESDAY:  TV History - The 1980s “Magnum, P.I.” used a soundstage of this long-running drama that had just ended, & even referred to its lead character.

- WEDNESDAY:  Hollywood History - Last name of 3 men who missed the 1927 premiere of “The Jazz Singer” because a 4th of that name had died hours before.
Honestly, I thought all three of them were easy as hell.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on April 28, 2023, 05:49:47 AM
^
MONDAY:  I've been to Santa Fe, know about the interstate numbering, and the high elevations, am good but not great when I can't see a map, so my other city was Salt Lake City. Oh well....

TUESDAY:  Piece of pie for me, but my wife didn't watch much TV back then other than PBS.

WEDNESDAY:  All I could think of was 'Marx', which I knew was incorrect.  I thought of 'Warner' AFTER the buzzer....

btw....a 3rd place contestant won a FJ by not wagering too much for a change  :tup

THURSDAY FJ:  the wife got it because she had watched a Muslim art seminar three weeks ago.  I had absolutely no idea.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on April 28, 2023, 06:17:40 AM
I'm curious what y'all thought about the Final Jeopardy clues so far this week:

- MONDAY:  U.S. Geography - Interstate 25 connects these 2 state capitals, 1st & 2nd in elevation, & in between runs through No. 3, Denver.

- TUESDAY:  TV History - The 1980s “Magnum, P.I.” used a soundstage of this long-running drama that had just ended, & even referred to its lead character.

- WEDNESDAY:  Hollywood History - Last name of 3 men who missed the 1927 premiere of “The Jazz Singer” because a 4th of that name had died hours before.

Monday is probably pretty easy if you understand the Interstate Highway numbering system.  I've also driven the route.  Annee is taking some heat on social media for her answer of Albany and Boston.  She didn't stick around after her game was done, so I didn't get a chance to talk to her, but I'm guessing she misread or misunderstood the clue.  Probably not surprising that the Canadian was thwarted by this one.

I thought Tuesday was super easy and was surprised no one got it.  I think pretty much all of us watching from the staging area had this.

I also thought Wednesday was pretty easy although, when they revealed Jesse's answer of Marx, I had a brief moment of, "oh...that could be right."  Johanna's answer of Jolsen didn't seem to make a whole lot of sense.

I also have to give props to Johanna.  She was super nervous before her game.  However, her description of her novel (which I believe was heavily edited for broadcast) sounded bat shit crazy to me.  I looked it up on Amazon afterwards ( https://www.amazon.com/Pigs-Johanna-Stoberock/dp/1597090441/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2UNHG7H5YC418&keywords=pigs+johanna+stoberock&qid=1682625225&sprefix=stoberock%2Caps%2C182&sr=8-1 ) and it made more sense.  Still kinda crazy though, but she was a super nice lady.

Monday:  Odd numbers run north and south, but I'm blanking as to where to go with that.  Helena, maybe?  I would never guess Santa Fe because of the elevation clue and "in between".

Tuesday: Pretty sure I know that one. Jack Lord?

Wednesday:  I would have said "Wilson".  I think that's wrong.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on April 28, 2023, 09:43:34 AM
Of the three, I thought Monday was the most difficult.

MONDAY:  More my neck of the woods than Stadler's for sure, but Colorado and New Mexico are the two eastern of the "Four Corners" states.  If you know odd numbered interstates go north/south, the "in between" part of the clue tells you that one part of the answer has to be Santa Fe because its the only state capital that is more or less south of Denver before you get to the Mexican border.  If you're not familiar with the geography, it's a bit of a toss-up between Cheyenne and Helena.  However, Helena is in the western part of Montana on I-15.  Cheyenne, on the other hand, is about 100 miles due north of Denver.  SLC is over 400 miles to the west of Cheyenne on I-80.

TUESDAY:  Stadler didn't read the clue carefully (but you are on the right track):  "this long-running drama."

WEDNESDAY:  If you think of brothers in the context of first half of the 20th century (and beyond) Hollywood, the two names that should spring almost immediately to mind are Marx and Warner (esp. for those of us who grew up on WB cartoons).

THURSDAY:  I thought this was the toughest one so far.  "Kurdish" led me immediately to Attila the Hun.  I briefly thought about "Bob" Genghis Khan but quickly dismissed that since he was presumably born in the area now occupied by Mongolia, and he wasn't Kurdish.  I didn't even think of Saladin.


The wagering last night was quite interesting.  Rebecca wagered correctly:  had she been correct, she'd have had $1 more than 2x Eric's score.  If Eric had been wrong and Jesse correct, they'd have been tied.  If, in that situation, Rebecca had also been wrong, then there would have been a 2-way tie for first (between Jesse and Eric), with Rebecca being $1 short.  It almost might have been better for her to wager $3,800, but it ended up not mattering.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on April 28, 2023, 10:13:22 AM
TUESDAY: Be blunt, because I'm missing it; what did I read incorrectly?   Magnum is a show set in Hawaii, and I assumed  "long-running" referred to Hawaii Five-O, also set in Hawaii (and in the same fictional universe) which at the time was the longest running police drama. 

WEDNESDAY:  Where did it say "brothers", or was that an implication from "Hollywood"?  I never even went to Marx or Warner.  I was thinking something referring to a common name (thus, Wilson, though I looked it up and he died three years before). 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on April 28, 2023, 10:56:29 AM
Still playing along here:

MONDAY:  SLC is northwest of Denver, and on I-15.  Again, I'm not the best with those square states.  Plus, if you had told me to name the state capitol of Wyoming in two seconds, I would have probably said Laramie.  :facepalm:

(remember Sgt. Zale on M*A*S*H with the 'officer of the month' questions?  'When are we going to get to state capitols?  C'mon, 'ask me what's the state capitol of Cleveland? :lol)

TUESDAY:  the correct response was the TV show

WEDNESDAY:  It asked for the last name.

THURSDAY:  Yup, I said Genghis Khan as well, hoping it would stick. ;)  And last night's bidding was well done all around. It's such a crap shoot when that time comes around.  I never fault someone who doesn't win who at least bid smartly.

 We do bar trivia a couple of times a month.  Scores generally range from 50-70 going into the final round, with a limit of 15 for that question.  But.....   we get to hear the question, and make our wager with the response.  We've won a couple of times, been in the money on others, missed out because of a couple of too large or small wagers, and.....  well, we've crapped out more than a few other times. :D
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on April 28, 2023, 10:58:53 AM
By the way, I said "Jack Lord" as a hint, not as my answer; I know they were asking for the show, I was trying to not give too many spoilers. 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 28, 2023, 11:15:17 AM
WEDNESDAY:  Where did it say "brothers", or was that an implication from "Hollywood"?  I never even went to Marx or Warner.  I was thinking something referring to a common name (thus, Wilson, though I looked it up and he died three years before).
The entire question implies "brothers" or at least "close relatives"; why else would 3 miss because a 4th had died?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on April 28, 2023, 03:41:57 PM
By the way, I said "Jack Lord" as a hint, not as my answer; I know they were asking for the show, I was trying to not give too many spoilers.

Well, there you go.  I misunderstood what you wrote.


WEDNESDAY:  Where did it say "brothers", or was that an implication from "Hollywood"?  I never even went to Marx or Warner.  I was thinking something referring to a common name (thus, Wilson, though I looked it up and he died three years before). 

"Last name of 3 men" and "a 4th of that name" implies either brothers or family members.  You're right that it didn't have to be brothers.  Could've been the Barrymores, although I don't know how many of them there were.

Who's the "Wilson" you're thinking of?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on May 01, 2023, 07:47:30 AM
By the way, I said "Jack Lord" as a hint, not as my answer; I know they were asking for the show, I was trying to not give too many spoilers.

Well, there you go.  I misunderstood what you wrote.


WEDNESDAY:  Where did it say "brothers", or was that an implication from "Hollywood"?  I never even went to Marx or Warner.  I was thinking something referring to a common name (thus, Wilson, though I looked it up and he died three years before). 

"Last name of 3 men" and "a 4th of that name" implies either brothers or family members.  You're right that it didn't have to be brothers.  Could've been the Barrymores, although I don't know how many of them there were.

Who's the "Wilson" you're thinking of?

Woodrow; no brothers, but "Wilson" being a common name....
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on May 03, 2023, 08:33:35 AM
Kudos, Paul, on your performance in last night's show!  My more intelligent wife was really impressed.  :tup
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Lonk on May 03, 2023, 08:41:29 AM
Kudos, Paul, on your performance in last night's show!  My more intelligent wife was really impressed.  :tup

More intelligent than you, or more intelligent than PG?  :lol

I didn't watch it, but caught some videos this morning. Sucks they gave you the Eros answer wrong. But good job though.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on May 03, 2023, 10:29:49 AM
Thanks guys!  If you're interested, I posted a bunch of thoughts in the thread on the General Discussion board.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on May 08, 2023, 11:48:48 AM
Did you guys see they found the "Barbara Lowe" tapes? 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 08, 2023, 12:41:48 PM
Did you guys see they found the "Barbara Lowe" tapes?
I had never heard about this, but just read a story.

WOW.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on May 08, 2023, 01:22:39 PM
Did you guys see they found the "Barbara Lowe" tapes?
I had never heard about this, but just read a story.

WOW.

I had never heard about this before last week either (I don't think I was watching the show that early in its run).  It's an interesting story, but it was disappointing that, despite J-Archive having the footage, it hasn't been made available to watch.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Orbert on May 08, 2023, 01:47:15 PM
Heck of a story.  Kinda sad, too.

Link (https://www.theringer.com/tv/2023/5/2/23705821/jeopardy-lost-tapes-barbara-lowe-mystery-champion)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on May 10, 2023, 04:57:13 PM
Thought I'd insert a reference point here, for when Paul's comments slide off of Page 1 of the General Discussion page

PG1067's FINAL JEOPARDY ROUND

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8XVG1EZvd0

a recap  https://thejeopardyfan.com/2023/05/final-jeopardy-5-2-2023.html

fan comments regarding 'eros'  https://www.tvinsider.com/1091527/jeopardy-fans-react-controversial-double-jeopardy-clue/

https://www.tvinsider.com/1091527/jeopardy-fans-react-controversial-double-jeopardy-clue/


and the General Discussion link of his appearance   https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58308.0
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on May 10, 2023, 05:03:09 PM
^
Having posted the above, I have wanted to chime in on the 'Jeopardy Masters' tournament. 

The competitions so far have been GREAT stuff!  We were both worn out from the second night's games.  Always impressed with the knowledge of the contestants, but the clues last night were mostly unknown in this household. 

That, and just how personable all six have been with each other.  There's been a ton of respect shown on that stage, along with many fun and clever comments.   :tup
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on May 11, 2023, 08:17:08 AM
I liked James' challenge to Ken in Final Jeopardy. :)  I do get the sense there's a respect there if not friendship (they were on The Chase together) and that makes it fun, to me.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 11, 2023, 08:20:37 AM
I have really been enjoying the Masters Tournament!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on May 11, 2023, 09:39:55 AM
fan comments regarding 'eros'  https://www.tvinsider.com/1091527/jeopardy-fans-react-controversial-double-jeopardy-clue/
https://www.tvinsider.com/1091527/jeopardy-fans-react-controversial-double-jeopardy-clue/


A coworker actually found an "article" with a headline to the effect that Jeopardy fans were upset because I was "screwed over" by the whole Eros thing.  It was really a collection of social media posts, and I found it amusing.  That said, they did a "second chance" tournament last year, so I'm hoping they do it again and I get a shot.  :-)
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on May 12, 2023, 12:36:54 PM
fan comments regarding 'eros'  https://www.tvinsider.com/1091527/jeopardy-fans-react-controversial-double-jeopardy-clue/
https://www.tvinsider.com/1091527/jeopardy-fans-react-controversial-double-jeopardy-clue/


A coworker actually found an "article" with a headline to the effect that Jeopardy fans were upset because I was "screwed over" by the whole Eros thing.  It was really a collection of social media posts, and I found it amusing.  That said, they did a "second chance" tournament last year, so I'm hoping they do it again and I get a shot.  :-)

Hell yes!!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 15, 2023, 02:36:02 PM
Jeopardy Masters is back tonight!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on May 15, 2023, 05:00:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=965yqlFxuTc

Ya gotta love Sam for this as well   https://www.facebook.com/Jeopardy/videos/2127938180734929
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 16, 2023, 08:59:31 AM
Sam is great.  But they've ALL been great at various times in this tournament, even James and Matt, whom I normally don't care for.

I have really loved seeing the contestants cut up with each other in this tournament.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on May 16, 2023, 11:53:34 AM
Late to the game with this one:  It's interesting to see how things play out.  Hannah qualified for the TOC by winning her fourth game last Monday.  She ended up winning four more games, but her streak should have ended last Tuesday (May 9).  The three contestants went into Final Jeopardy with the following scores:

Hannah:  $26,000
Raquel:  $14,400
Joe:  $5,800

The clue in "Actresses & Their Roles" was, "She made her big screen debut as a teen named Laurie in a 1978 film & in 2022 she played that role for the 7th & last time."  I thought this one was fairly easy:  Jamie Leigh Curtiss.

Joe was correct and almost doubled his score to $11,598.

Raquel was correct but bet an inexplicable $8,000 to finish with $22,400

Hannah was wrong (but almost right - she just wrote, "Who is Leigh?").  She made slightly more than a standard cover wager of $3,000 (i.e., if she had been right, Raquel could not have caught her), so she finished at $23,000 and won by $600.

Had Raquel made a better wager, she'd have won.  There's just no logic to wagering $8,000 instead of at least $8,801, which would have put her ahead of Hannah with a standard cover bet and an incorrect question.  According to a social media post I saw, Raquel claimed to have made a mathematical error when calculating her wager.  The look on her face at the end said it all.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 16, 2023, 12:57:11 PM
Late to the game with this one:  It's interesting to see how things play out.  Hannah qualified for the TOC by winning her fourth game last Monday.  She ended up winning four more games, but her streak should have ended last Tuesday (May 9).  The three contestants went into Final Jeopardy with the following scores:

Hannah:  $26,000
Raquel:  $14,400
Joe:  $5,800

The clue in "Actresses & Their Roles" was, "She made her big screen debut as a teen named Laurie in a 1978 film & in 2022 she played that role for the 7th & last time."  I thought this one was fairly easy:  Jamie Leigh Curtiss.

Joe was correct and almost doubled his score to $11,598.

Raquel was correct but bet an inexplicable $8,000 to finish with $22,400

Hannah was wrong (but almost right - she just wrote, "Who is Leigh?").  She made slightly more than a standard cover wager of $3,000 (i.e., if she had been right, Raquel could not have caught her), so she finished at $23,000 and won by $600.

Had Raquel made a better wager, she'd have won.  There's just no logic to wagering $8,000 instead of at least $8,801, which would have put her ahead of Hannah with a standard cover bet and an incorrect question.  According to a social media post I saw, Raquel claimed to have made a mathematical error when calculating her wager.  The look on her face at the end said it all.
Yeah, that sucked for her.

I listen to the Jeopardy podcast, and the producers that make it explained that, I guess other than that game, Hannah has been playing at a level comparable to the people playing in the Masters tournament (although obviously not for the same extravagant lengths of time that some of them did).  They were using some metrics that looked at number of questions answered correctly, and when and where those were, not at money won.

Of course, she kind of got screwed last night, since they brought back another continuing champ who had had his run interrupted by scheduling earlier this year.  What a slaughter that was.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on May 16, 2023, 01:19:54 PM
I haven't seen this week's episodes, but I did see that she lost.

I watched her first game, which was the next one after mine (May 3).  I didn't stick around for the post-lunch break games (May 4 & 5).  She smoked Kevin to end his run, and her first title defense was even more convincing ($45,200 to $8,201 to $100), but her second title defense was much less convincing.  She had a $4,100 lead going into FJ and won by $3 using a standard cover wager.  It was a sports clue (why couldn't I have gotten that!), and she only got it correct because it was about her hometown team (the Cubs).  Her average for her 8 wins was nearly $29k.  Super impressive.  Kevin told me he was happy to be able to say he lost to someone like Hannah.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on May 25, 2023, 04:42:38 PM
The 'Masters' final was last night.  Wow, I'm worn out!

We were exhausted after each session, needing about 15 minutes every night to somewhat catch our breaths before watching the second contest.  Simply amazed at the knowledge of all of them, especially since my wife and I sat in silence for long spells with no clue to three quarters of the correct responses, while the contestants were rattling off responses left and right.

I thought James was a bit too much off a horse's behind at times, but that's who he is.  Mattea wasn't a favorite during her initial run, and Matt drove us nuts with his 'What is Lennon?', 'What is McCartney?' responses during his initial run.  This competition allowed us to learn so much about who they are (along with Amy, Andrew, and Sam), and the friendships that have been created due to their successes and personalities.

 :tup
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 26, 2023, 08:52:48 AM
I absolutely loved the Masters Tournament, and I was pleased to hear it will come back again next year!
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on July 29, 2023, 09:12:57 PM
So...the writers' strike is going to postpone the next Tournament of Champions.  In a Facebook group for Jeopardy contestants, 13-game winner Ray Lalonde posted that, as long as the writers' strike persisted, he would not participate in the TOC, and he encouraged other likely TOC participants to do likewise.  The post came across as a bit sanctimonious to me, but I'm not a union guy.  His post got picked up by the media.  I don't know if it was a direct response to Lalonde's post, but Jeopardy announced that it wouldn't do the TOC until the strike was over.

Lalonde's post also cited "credible sources" that Jeopardy was going to produce regular episodes with recycled questions from past seasons.  I don't know who Lalonde's sources are or whether that's true, but I do know that Jeopardy has a significant bank of questions that were written before the strike.

Of course, Ken Jennings finished up the last season because Mayim Bialik declined to honor the writers' strike (this was before SAG-AFTRA also went on strike).  Someone even went so far as to email SAG-AFTRA to inquire whether a contestant who "crossed the picket line" to appear on Jeopardy while the strike was pending would be barred from future membership (the response was no).

To date, Jeopardy has 13 qualified TOC contestants (including the winners of the celebrity and HS reunion tournaments).  I don't have any idea if they'll be doing another second-chance tournament, but if they do, I'll absolutely participate regardless of any strike (although I certainly hope the strikes get resolved sooner than later).
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Stadler on July 30, 2023, 05:26:11 PM
So...the writers' strike is going to postpone the next Tournament of Champions.  In a Facebook group for Jeopardy contestants, 13-game winner Ray Lalonde posted that, as long as the writers' strike persisted, he would not participate in the TOC, and he encouraged other likely TOC participants to do likewise.  The post came across as a bit sanctimonious to me, but I'm not a union guy.  His post got picked up by the media.  I don't know if it was a direct response to Lalonde's post, but Jeopardy announced that it wouldn't do the TOC until the strike was over.

Lalonde's post also cited "credible sources" that Jeopardy was going to produce regular episodes with recycled questions from past seasons.  I don't know who Lalonde's sources are or whether that's true, but I do know that Jeopardy has a significant bank of questions that were written before the strike.

Of course, Ken Jennings finished up the last season because Mayim Bialik declined to honor the writers' strike (this was before SAG-AFTRA also went on strike).  Someone even went so far as to email SAG-AFTRA to inquire whether a contestant who "crossed the picket line" to appear on Jeopardy while the strike was pending would be barred from future membership (the response was no).

To date, Jeopardy has 13 qualified TOC contestants (including the winners of the celebrity and HS reunion tournaments).  I don't have any idea if they'll be doing another second-chance tournament, but if they do, I'll absolutely participate regardless of any strike (although I certainly hope the strikes get resolved sooner than later).

Am I misunderstanding you? If she declined to honor the strike, wouldn't she then be appearing?   
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on July 30, 2023, 05:38:43 PM
No.  I mis-typed.  She declined to host through the end of the season (as she was scheduled to do) in order to honor the writers' strike.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: DragonAttack on August 10, 2023, 04:20:34 PM
No idea who is going to host the 40th season.

https://www.etonline.com/jeopardy-season-40-will-use-repeat-questions-and-contestants-due-to-wga-strike-209399

As to after 'The Masters' tournament, we tuned out Mayim after a couple nights of 'yup', 'nope', and 'okee dokee' responses until Ken came back.  Enjoying the reruns just fine.

They should just replay Alex's old shows until the strike is over, instead of their proposed plans.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on August 10, 2023, 05:02:44 PM
Damn...they upped the second and third place prizes!

Not sure why Ken wouldn't be hosting the show until the strikes are done (just as he did with the final couple weeks of last season when Mayim bailed out in support of the WGA strike (and before SAG-AFTRA struck)).
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 11, 2023, 10:13:33 AM
They should just replay Alex's old shows until the strike is over, instead of their proposed plans.
Those are on the Jeopardy channel on Pluto.  Fun stuff.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on August 12, 2023, 11:17:47 AM
I swear I heard there was progress being made with the writer's strike.  Maybe I hallucinated it.

Anyway, thanks Hef for that info.  We had a power outage on Wednesday (I was in the shower, pitch black...so happy I made it out alive, LoL) and ever since then our cable box and our TV is not syncing so we have been missing Jeopardy's 2nd chance tournament.  I trust they are still being DVR'd.

But we are able to access our streaming channels so will definitely check out some Alex classics until we get this sorted. 
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on August 12, 2023, 01:14:48 PM
I swear I heard there was progress being made with the writer's strike.  Maybe I hallucinated it.

Per Wikipedia (which is well-sourced):  "On August 10, 2023, the AMPTP and the WGA agreed to resume contract negotiations, with the first meeting set for August 11.  After that meeting, the Writers Guild sent a note to its 11,500 members saying Ms. Lombardi [this person is not identified by her full name in the Wiki article] had indicated a willingness by studios to sweeten their contract offer in some areas, including finding ways to safeguard writers from artificial intelligence technology.  The note added, however, that Ms. Lombardini had said studios 'were not willing to engage' on other Writers Guild proposals, including success-based residual payments from streaming services.  The note said guild leaders would not return to negotiations until studios were willing to engage on all proposals."
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Harmony on August 13, 2023, 09:53:09 PM
Rats
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: crazy climber dude on September 11, 2023, 03:49:09 PM
New shows start tonight. Who's going to watch? Or will you not watch to stand with the writers?
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on September 11, 2023, 04:22:32 PM
I believe that this week's (and maybe also next week's) episodes are a "second chance" tournament for contestants from season 37 (which I think would have been the 2020-21 TV season).  It's kinda interesting because it suggests I might have an opportunity to return as long as a year or two from now.

I will watch anything new.  I don't know enough about the two sides' competing positions to know who is "right" or "wrong" (it's not like this is a factory owner seeking to force children to work 12-hour days), so I have no reason to "stand with the writers."  Rather, I side with my own personal interest in being entertained.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 12, 2023, 08:39:50 AM
New shows start tonight. Who's going to watch? Or will you not watch to stand with the writers?
Why would I not watch to stand with the writers?  AFAIK, they are using old clues for this, or clues that were previously written but never used, or something.  They aren't producing new questions using non-union writers.  If they did that, I might consider not watching.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Dave_Manchester on December 01, 2023, 12:13:03 PM
For shame...

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/jeopardy-fans-dumbfounded-contestants-fail-recognize-legendary-rockers
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: El Barto on December 01, 2023, 12:24:39 PM
For shame...

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/jeopardy-fans-dumbfounded-contestants-fail-recognize-legendary-rockers
That they didn't know Houses of the Holy was a problem. Only Pagey is even remotely recognizable, and I didn't notice at first. I'm more surprised about Garth Brooks, honestly.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on December 01, 2023, 01:41:28 PM
I just watched the clip.

Here's the thing.  Other than a couple one-off appearances, Led Zeppelin hasn't existed in 43 years.  The guy on the far right looked like he's in his 40s, but the other two appeared much younger.  If you're a classic rock fan, then it's a big duh, but if you were born in the late '80s and raised in the '90s and '00s on, e.g., hip-hop or country music, why would you have any familiarity with LZ album names or know what they looked like nearly half a century earlier?  There are an awful lot of artists who existed only before I was born that I wouldn't have recognized when I was 40.  Hell...you could probably come up with a Garth Brooks album and show me a picture and I'd just sit there blinking my eyes, and he was HUGE during my lifetime.

The social media comments about "societal failure" and what-not are predictably stupid.

Also, I'd say Plant is the most recognizable of the four in the picture they showed, but he obviously looks nothing like that now.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: Orbert on December 01, 2023, 02:49:12 PM
For any given topic, for any semi-random group of three nerds on a TV game show, there will be gaps.  This one kinda hits hard for people who know, but those who don't, don't care.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: SoundscapeMN on December 15, 2023, 09:17:51 PM
Mayim's out as host.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 16, 2023, 03:51:25 AM
Mayim's out as host.
Well, she's out as a co-host of the main Jeopardy show.

They still hope to work with her for prime time or other versions.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on January 24, 2024, 04:46:10 PM
Anyone been watching the Celebrity Jeopardy tournament that wrapped up yesterday?

I think was an absolute blast.  The first couple opening round games were a little awkward since they were played while the writers and actors strikes were still going on, but I love the three round format, and some of the celebs were crazy good.  The final 3, in particular, could have held their own in a regular episode.  Ken Jennings even made a comment about how impressive they were playing (although that may have been self-serving hyperbole).  It was a very back-and-forth contest, with all three contestants being in the running until the end, and the winner's reaction was really awesome.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 25, 2024, 08:08:54 AM
Anyone been watching the Celebrity Jeopardy tournament that wrapped up yesterday?

I think was an absolute blast.  The first couple opening round games were a little awkward since they were played while the writers and actors strikes were still going on, but I love the three round format, and some of the celebs were crazy good.  The final 3, in particular, could have held their own in a regular episode.  Ken Jennings even made a comment about how impressive they were playing (although that may have been self-serving hyperbole).  It was a very back-and-forth contest, with all three contestants being in the running until the end, and the winner's reaction was really awesome.
Yep.  Felt the same way as you.  Thoroughly enjoyed the season and the finale.  Although I didn't think that any of this year's contestants were in the class of last year's winner, Ike Barinholtz.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on January 25, 2024, 09:47:11 AM
Anyone been watching the Celebrity Jeopardy tournament that wrapped up yesterday?

I think was an absolute blast.  The first couple opening round games were a little awkward since they were played while the writers and actors strikes were still going on, but I love the three round format, and some of the celebs were crazy good.  The final 3, in particular, could have held their own in a regular episode.  Ken Jennings even made a comment about how impressive they were playing (although that may have been self-serving hyperbole).  It was a very back-and-forth contest, with all three contestants being in the running until the end, and the winner's reaction was really awesome.
Yep.  Felt the same way as you.  Thoroughly enjoyed the season and the finale.  Although I didn't think that any of this year's contestants were in the class of last year's winner, Ike Barinholtz.

By the way, I found out after I posted about this yesterday that the Celebrity Jeopardy winner appeared on The Weakest Link back in 2001.  It was a fairly entertaining watch (although some of the other celeb contestants were more than a little annoying).  A couple of questions about things that were very well-known at the time (e.g., the George Clooney/Nicole Kidman move The Peacemaker) seemed incredibly obscure now.
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: pg1067 on February 22, 2024, 04:55:25 PM
This is a couple weeks ago at this point, but this was absolutely hilarious.

https://www.reddit.com/r/jeopardyhot/comments/1ajz3ba/double_jeopardy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Title: Re: Jeopardy
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 23, 2024, 07:55:58 AM
This is a couple weeks ago at this point, but this was absolutely hilarious.

https://www.reddit.com/r/jeopardyhot/comments/1ajz3ba/double_jeopardy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
lol

I remember making an off-color comment when we watched it.

BTW, Tournament of Champions starts tonight!