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General => Polls/Survivors => Topic started by: The Letter M on January 16, 2020, 08:29:28 PM
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With the recent and seemingly sudden passing of Rush drummer Neil Peart, many of us Rush fans have been going back and listening to the band's discography in memory of the beloved percussionist and lyricist. It's been about 3.5 years since the last time I did the Rush Survivor, and back then, the band's future was still a bit unclear, but at this point, we know they are done. I figured since we're all listening to Rush again anyway, might as well see how these songs stack up through a Survivor!
Like last time, I will be running two albums concurrently, each with two-day rounds. UNLIKE last time, I won't be going over any non-album songs, and I will just be focusing on the band's 19 full-length studio albums (so no Feedback, sorry Feedback fans). The top two songs of each album will advance to the Finals, with third place songs going to a 19-song Consolation Survivor, where the top two there will get a second chance in the Finals. In the end, we will have 40 songs running in the Finals!
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Rush
01. Working Man
02. Finding My Way
03. What You're Doing
04. Here Again
05. Before And After
06. Take A Friend
07. Need Some Love
08. In The Mood
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Fly By Night
01. By-Tor & The Snow Dog
02. Anthem
03. Fly By Night
04. Beneath, Between & Behind
05. In The End
06. Making Memories
07. Best I Can
08. Rivendell
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Caress Of Steel
01. Bastille Day
The Necromancer
03. The Fountain Of Lamneth
04. Lakeside Park
05. I Think I'm Going Bald
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2112
01. 2112
02. A Passage To Bangkok
03. The Twilight Zone
04. Something For Nothing
05. Tears
06. Lessons
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A Farewell To Kings
01. Xanadu
02. Cygnus X-1, Book I: The Voyage
03. A Farewell To Kings
04. Closer To The Heart
05. Cinderella Man
06. Madrigal
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Hemispheres
01. La Villa Strangiato
02. Cygnus X-1, Book II: Hemispheres
03. The Trees
04. Circumstances
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Permanent Waves
01. Natural Science
02. Jacob's Ladder
03. The Spirit Of Radio
04. Freewill
05. Entre Nous
06. Different Strings
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Moving Pictures
01. Limelight
02. Tom Sawyer
03. Red Barchetta
04. YYZ
05. The Camera Eye
06. Witch Hunt (Part III of "Fear")
07. Vital Signs
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Signals
01. Subdivisions
02. The Analog Kid
03. Losing It
04. Digital Man
05. The Weapon (Part II of "Fear")
06. New World Man
07. Countdown
08. Chemistry
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Grace Under Pressure
01. Between The Wheels
02. Distant Early Warning
03. Red Sector A
04. Afterimage
05. The Enemy Within (Part I of "Fear")
06. Kid Gloves
07. Red Lenses
08. The Body Electric
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Power Windows
01. Marathon
02. Manhattan Project
03. Territories
04. Middletown Dreams
05. Grand Designs
06. The Big Money
07. Mystic Rhythms
08. Emotion Detector
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Hold Your Fire
01. Mission
02. Time Stand Still
03. Force Ten
04. Prime Mover
05. Open Secrets
06. Lock And Key
07. Turn The Page
08. Second Nature
09. High Water
10. Tai Shan
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Presto
01. Available Light
02. The Pass
03. Presto
04. Show Don't Tell
05. Chain Lightning
06. Scars
07. Superconductor
08. War Paint
09. Anagram (For Mongo)
10. Hand Over Fist
11. Red Tide
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Roll The Bones
01. Dreamline
02. Bravado
03. Where's My Thing? (Part IV "Gangster Of Boats" Trilogy)
04. Ghost Of A Chance
05. Roll The Bones
06. The Big Wheel
07. Heresy
08. Neurotica
09. Face Up
10. You Bet Your Life
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Counterparts
01. Leave That Thing Alone
02. Animate
03. Cut To The Chase
04. Double Agent
05. Alien Shore
06. Stick It Out
Cold Fire
08. Everyday Glory
09. Nobody's Hero
10. Between Sun & Moon
11. The Speed Of Love
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Test For Echo
01. Driven
02. Resist
03. Test For Echo
04. Time And Motion
05. Limbo
06. Half The World
07. Carve Away The Stone
The Color Of Right
09. Totem
Virtuality
11. Dog Years
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Vapor Trails
01. Vapor Trail
02. One Little Victory
03. Freeze (Part IV of "Fear")
04. Peaceable Kingdom
05. Secret Touch
06. Ceiling Unlimited
07. Earthshine
08. Ghost Rider
09. Out Of The Cradle
10. Sweet Miracle
Nocturne
12. The Stars Look Down
13. How It Is
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Snakes & Arrows
01. Armor & Sword
02. The Main Monkey Business
03. Far Cry
04. Malignant Narcissism
05. Spindrift
06. Workin' Them Angels
07. Hope
08. Faithless
09. The Way The Wind Blows
10. Bravest Face
11. The Larger Bowl
We Hold On
13. Good News First
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Clockwork Angels
01. The Garden
02. Clockwork Angels
03. Caravan
04. BU2B
05. Headlong Flight
06. The Wreckers
07. The Anarchist
08. Halo Effect
09. Carnies
10. Wish Them Well
11. Seven Cities Of Gold
12. BU2B2
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Consolation
01. Red Barchetta
02. The Spirit Of Radio
03. The Trees
04. Losing It
05. A Farewell To Kings
Red Sector A
07. Force Ten
08. Territories
09. Presto
10. Test For Echo
11. Fly By Night
12. The Twilight Zone
13. Where's My Thing? (Part IV "Gangster Of Boats" Trilogy)
Caravan
15. Cut To The Chase
16. The Fountain Of Lamneth
17. Far Cry
18. Freeze (Part IV of "Fear")
19. What You're Doing
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FINALS
01. Natural Science
02. La Villa Strangiato
03. Xanadu
04. Subdivisions
05. The Spirit Of Radio
06. Jacob's Ladder
07. Limelight
08. Tom Sawyer
09. 2112
10. Cygnus X-1, Book I: The Voyage
11. The Analog Kid
12. Red Barchetta
13. Marathon
14. Cygnus X-1, Book II: Hemispheres
15. Manhattan Project
16. The Garden
Between The Wheels
18. Clockwork Angels
19. Mission
20. Dreamline
21. Time Stand Still
The Pass
(23)By-Tor & The Snowdog
24. Distant Early Warning
25. Available Light
26. Anthem
27. Animate
28. Leave That Thing Alone
29. Bastille Day
30. A Passage To Bangkok
31. The Necromancer
Driven
33. The Main Monkey Business
34. Resist
35. Working Man
One Little Victory
37. Bravado
38. Vapor Trail
39. Armor & Sword
40. Finding My Way
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Feedback
01. Heart Full Of Soul
02. Crossroads
03. Summertime Blues
04. The Seeker
Shapes Of Things
06. Mr. Soul
07. Seven And Seven Is
08. For What It's Worth
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The Instrumentals
01. La Villa Strangiato
02. YYZ
03. Leave That Thing Alone
04. Where's My Thing? (Part IV "Gangster Of Boats" Trilogy)
05. The Main Monkey Business
06. Limbo
07. Malignant Naricissism
08. Hope
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The Studio Albums
01. Moving Pictures
02. Permanent Waves
03. Hemispheres
04. Power Windows
05. Signals
06. A Farewell To Kings
Clockwork Angels
08. Grace Under Pressure
09. 2112
10. Counterparts
11. Presto
12. Test For Echo
13. Caress Of Steel
14. Hold Your Fire
15. Fly By Night
Snakes & Arrows
17. Vapor Trails
18. Roll The Bones
19. Rush
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The Live Albums
01. Exit...Stage Left
Different Stages
03. All The World's A Stage
04. Rush In Rio
05. R40 Live
06. R30: 30th Anniversary World Tour
07. Grace Under Pressure Tour
08. Clockwork Angels Tour
09. Time Machine 2011: Live In Cleveland
10. Snakes & Arrows Live
11. A Show Of Hands
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Rock Bottom - The Last Place Songs
01. Circumstances
02. Emotion Detector
03. Chemistry
04. Vital Signs
05. Different Strings
06. The Body Electric
07. Lessons
08. Madrigal
09. Red Tide
10. In The Mood
11. Tai Shan
12. The Speed Of Love
13. How It Is
14. I Think I'm Going Bald
15. Dog Years
Good News First
BU2B2
18. Rivendell
You Bet Your Life
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The Album Covers
01. Moving Pictures
02. Permanent Waves
03. Grace Under Pressure
04. Test For Echo
05. Exit...Stage Left
06. A Farewell To Kings
07. Power Windows
08. Hemispheres
09. 2112
Roll The Bones
11. Signals
12. Vapor Trails
Clockwork Angels
14. Fly By Night
Snakes & Arrows
16. Presto
17. Caress Of Steel
18. Rush In Rio
19. Snakes & Arrows Live
R40 Live
21. All The World's A Stage
22. Counterparts
Time Machine 2011: Live In Cleveland
Clockwork Angels Tour
25. Different Stages
26. A Show Of Hands
27. Rush
Hold Your Fire
29. Feedback
R30: 30th Anniversary World Tour
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This Survivor is brought to you by the letter M
-Marc.
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I'll post the first rounds for Rush and FBN either tomorrow evening or Saturday morning, so get ready folks!
-Marc.
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Not gonna join this but have fun everyone who will, and congratulations to you for taking up such a mammoth task with this huge discography! :tup
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Ooh, I'm excited for this :corn
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First and foremost, thanks for doing this!
So...no weighting for the better liked albums? That's gonna be tough for albums like Hemispheres and Moving Pictures.
Also, what non-album tracks are there (other than the handful of pre-Rush singles, which I assume would all get quickly eliminated)?
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Thanks for doing this :metal
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First and foremost, thanks for doing this!
So...no weighting for the better liked albums? That's gonna be tough for albums like Hemispheres and Moving Pictures.
Also, what non-album tracks are there (other than the handful of pre-Rush singles, which I assume would all get quickly eliminated)?
I don't weight albums or tracks, every album gets 2 to the finals, and 1 to consolation, regardless of how many songs there are or how well-liked an album is. Sure, it means that half of Hemispheres goes to the Finals and a third of 2112/AFTK/PEW all go to Finals as well, but it's the easiest and fairest way I can do them without complicating matters.
Last time I ran this Survivor, I included songs like "Bad Boy", "Fancy Dancer" and "Garden Road", as well as the band's first single of "Not Fade Away"/"Can't Fight It", all in a Survivor with the 8 songs from Feedback. It was a sort of covers/non-album-tracks survivor, and also included "I've Been Running" and "The Loser". It was a weird mish-mash of songs that most folks weren't aware of, let alone listened to well enough to participate in a 14-round survivor for them, so I decided to omit those songs this time around.
Maybe in 2024, for the band's 50th Anniversary, I'll do this again and with ALL of the known songs written by Rush, whether they were studio-recorded or not, or even if they are kind of hard to find.
-Marc.
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Sorry I missed the 1st rounds, but I'm in.
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Sorry I missed the 1st rounds, but I'm in.
Ditto!
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Happy to see more folks pop in and get their votes in! I hope you all stick around through the end! Based on how long the 2016 Rush Survivor took, this will go til about mid-June! I may do some other Rush-related survivors like last time - Sectors Survivor, Albums Survivor, Live Albums Survivor, Multi-Movement Songs, The Fear Series (super short!), and maybe more. Maybe I'll throw them in along side the two albums being run concurrently, if no one objects to me running 3 rounds every two days. Maybe I'll do the multi-movement songs when their album comes up? If so, I should start "By-Tor & The Snow Dog" soon!
-Marc.
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Maybe I'll do the multi-movement songs when their album comes up? If so, I should start "By-Tor & The Snow Dog" soon!
Meaning At the Tobes of Hades v. Across the Styx v. Of the Battle v. Epilogue? Something like that would make more sense in the context of The Fountain, 2112 and Hemispheres, but hey, I'm down for whatever. Would you first have a Challenge and Defiance v. 7/4 War Furor v. Aftermath v. Hymn of Triumph sub-survivor?
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I don't think I'd care too much for an individual survivor for multi-movement songs. But... album survivors (one for studio; one for live) I'm super down with. Been thinking a lot about what my fave live releases are lately.
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I read about this in one of the Rush threads, but had no idea it started yet. I don't think I've ever been to this sub forum before but I'll try to remember to check in and vote.
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Rush's Final Round's Results:
Finding My Way 17 (89.5%)
Working Man 2 (10.5%)
01. Working Man
02. Finding My Way
03. What You're Doing
04. Here Again
05. Before And After
06. Take A Friend
07. Need Some Love
08. In The Mood
Fly By Night's Final Round's Results:
Anthem 11 (61.1%)
By-Tor & The Snow Dog 7 (38.9%)
01. By-Tor & The Snow Dog
02. Anthem
03. Fly By Night
04. Beneath, Between & Behind
05. In The End
06. Making Memories
07. Best I Can
08. Rivendell
And here are the results for the first two albums! Thank you to everyone that's participated so far! We are slowly getting into the really hype albums, so I hope even more come around to vote!
-Marc.
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Seems pretty accurate to me.
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Caress Of Steel's Final Round's Results:
The Necromancer 5 (33.3%)
The Fountain Of Lamneth 10 (66.7%)
01. Bastille Day
The Necromancer
03. The Fountain Of Lamneth
04. Lakeside Park
05. I Think I'm Going Bald
While I expected those two to reach the top two, I did not expect a tie! I'm glad to see half of us like "The Necromancer" a bit more than "Bastille Day". Recently listening to my Live Tourography of shows on CDr, the few shows that had "The Necromancer" were astounding, lots of great performances of the song.
Anyways, with this album now done, AFTK begins, and 2112 wraps up with its final round. After that, Hemispheres will begin!
I am going away this weekend to a convention from Thursday night to Sunday evening, so I will try to update on Friday night, but if I miss it, I will resume on Sunday night.
-Marc.
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2112's Final Round's Results:
2112 0 (0%)
A Passage To Bangkok 20 (100%)
01. 2112
02. A Passage To Bangkok
03. The Twilight Zone
04. Something For Nothing
05. Tears
06. Lessons
A Farewell To Kings's Final Round's Results:
Xanadu 6 (30%)
Cygnus X-1, Book I: The Voyage 14 (70%)
01. Xanadu
02. Cygnus X-1, Book I: The Voyage
03. A Farewell To Kings
04. Closer To The Heart
05. Cinderella Man
06. Madrigal
Hemispheres's Final Round's Results:
Cygnus X-1, Book II: Hemispheres 13 (61.9%)
La Villa Strangiato 8 (38.1%)
01. La Villa Strangiato
02. Cygnus X-1, Book II: Hemispheres
03. The Trees
04. Circumstances
Bulk update here for the last three albums' results as we move into the band's 80's albums with PEW and MP!
-Marc.
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Permanent Waves's Final Round's Results:
Jacob's Ladder 14 (70%)
Natural Science 6 (30%)
01. Natural Science
02. Jacob's Ladder
03. The Spirit Of Radio
04. Freewill
05. Entre Nous
06. Different Strings
Natural Science takes the top spot, but both it and Jacob's Ladder move on to the Finals, with The Spirit Of Radio getting another chance in Consolation!
-Marc.
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Moving Pictures's Final Round's Results:
Tom Sawyer 17 (73.9%)
Limelight 6 (26.1%)
01. Limelight
02. Tom Sawyer
03. Red Barchetta
04. YYZ
05. The Camera Eye
06. Witch Hunt (Part III of "Fear")
07. Vital Signs
Limelight takes the top spot, as predicted at the beginning of this album survivor, with Tom Sawyer joining it in the Finals. This was a fun one to see play out in the second half. For comparison, here are the results from the 2016 Survivor i ran:
01. Red Barchetta
Limelight
03. Tom Sawyer
04. YYZ
05. The Camera Eye
06. Witch Hunt (Part III of "Fear")
07. Vital Signs
The top three were swapped around, so I wasn't expecting TS to make it into the Finals this time, but good on it! Let's see if RB can wrestle its way to the top of the Consolation rounds!
-Marc.
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Signals's Final Round's Results:
Subdivisions 5 (22.7%)
The Analog Kid 17 (77.3%)
01. Subdivisions
02. The Analog Kid
03. Losing It
04. Digital Man
05. The Weapon (Part II of "Fear")
06. New World Man
07. Countdown
08. Chemistry
I suspected the first two tracks to make it to the top 2 again. In fact, the top four are the same as the last time! Here are the results from 2016:
01. Subdivisions
02. The Analog Kid
03. Losing It
04. Digital Man
05. New World Man
06. Chemistry
The Weapon (Part II of "Fear")
08. Countdown
The Survivor for Power Windows begins today, and so we move on through the synth-era!
-Marc.
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Grace Under Pressure's Final Round's Results:
Distant Early Warning 12 (66.7%)
Between The Wheels 6 (33.3%)
01. Between The Wheels
02. Distant Early Warning
03. Red Sector A
04. Afterimage
05. The Enemy Within (Part I of "Fear")
06. Kid Gloves
07. Red Lenses
08. The Body Electric
Voted two to one, DEW places second, leaving the album closer to take the top spot! Of course, both songs advance to the finals with RSA going on to Consolation. We are nearly half-way through all of the albums, and I'm happy to see that many of the voters are still sticking around through the 80s albums! I hope we can keep this momentum going as we push on into the 90s within the coming weeks!
-Marc.
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Grace Under Pressure's Final Round's Results:
Distant Early Warning 12 (66.7%)
Between The Wheels 6 (33.3%)
01. Between The Wheels
02. Distant Early Warning
03. Red Sector A
04. Afterimage
05. The Enemy Within (Part I of "Fear")
06. Kid Gloves
07. Red Lenses
08. The Body Electric
Voted two to one, DEW places second, leaving the album closer to take the top spot! Of course, both songs advance to the finals with RSA going on to Consolation. We are nearly half-way through all of the albums, and I'm happy to see that many of the voters are still sticking around through the 80s albums! I hope we can keep this momentum going as we push on into the 90s within the coming weeks!
-Marc.
Results notwithstanding, does anyone really think DEW is one of the two best songs on GUP?
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Grace Under Pressure's Final Round's Results:
Distant Early Warning 12 (66.7%)
Between The Wheels 6 (33.3%)
01. Between The Wheels
02. Distant Early Warning
03. Red Sector A
04. Afterimage
05. The Enemy Within (Part I of "Fear")
06. Kid Gloves
07. Red Lenses
08. The Body Electric
Voted two to one, DEW places second, leaving the album closer to take the top spot! Of course, both songs advance to the finals with RSA going on to Consolation. We are nearly half-way through all of the albums, and I'm happy to see that many of the voters are still sticking around through the 80s albums! I hope we can keep this momentum going as we push on into the 90s within the coming weeks!
-Marc.
Results notwithstanding, does anyone really think DEW is one of the two best songs on GUP?
Yep. It's my favourite song on the album. :tup
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My favourite song on the album too!
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Grace Under Pressure's Final Round's Results:
Distant Early Warning 12 (66.7%)
Between The Wheels 6 (33.3%)
01. Between The Wheels
02. Distant Early Warning
03. Red Sector A
04. Afterimage
05. The Enemy Within (Part I of "Fear")
06. Kid Gloves
07. Red Lenses
08. The Body Electric
Voted two to one, DEW places second, leaving the album closer to take the top spot! Of course, both songs advance to the finals with RSA going on to Consolation. We are nearly half-way through all of the albums, and I'm happy to see that many of the voters are still sticking around through the 80s albums! I hope we can keep this momentum going as we push on into the 90s within the coming weeks!
-Marc.
Results notwithstanding, does anyone really think DEW is one of the two best songs on GUP?
I was going to defend you and voice my agreement that DEW is terribly overrated...
......but then you dissed Territories.
:rollin :rollin :rollin
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Power Windows's Final Round's Results:
Manhattan Project 13 (81.3%)
Marathon 3 (18.8%)
01. Marathon
02. Manhattan Project
03. Territories
04. Middletown Dreams
05. Grand Designs
06. The Big Money
07. Mystic Rhythms
08. Emotion Detector
Manhattan Project lands in 2nd place, but both it and Marathon move on to the finals! For the curious, here are the results from 2016, which is quite a change compared to these current results:
01. Marathon
02. Mystic Rhythms
03. Manhattan Project
04. The Big Money
Middletown Dreams
06. Grand Designs
Territories
08. Emotion Detector
I'm surprised to have seen Mystic Rhythms drop 5 spots, essentially swapping spots with Territories. The songs in 4th-6th place are all the same, if a bit shuffled around a bit, though I wish I had done tie-breakers back then. Ah well. At least it seems that Marathon might always be number one on the album for many fans!
-Marc.
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Mystic Rhythms in the #2 spot is an even bigger abomination than Territories in the #3 spot.
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Mystic Rhythms in the #2 spot is an even bigger abomination than Territories in the #3 spot.
I know, right?
Both of them should've been higher. :P
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Hold Your Fire's Final Round's Results:
Time Stand Still 10 (55.6%)
Mission 8 (44.4%)
01. Mission
02. Time Stand Still
03. Force Ten
04. Prime Mover
05. Open Secrets
06. Lock And Key
07. Turn The Page
08. Second Nature
09. High Water
10. Tai Shan
By a couple of votes, Time Stand Still stands at second place, leaving the pseudo-title-track, Mission, to be the victor of HYF. Interestingly, the same two songs moved to the Finals in 2016, but have no swapped places. Similarly, the first three songs out remained the same, in the same order no less, while Lock And Key lost a few spots, allowing Force Ten to move on to Consolation.
01. Time Stand Still
02. Mission
03. Lock And Key
04. Force Ten
05. Prime Mover
06. Turn The Page
07. Open Secrets
08. Second Nature
09. High Water
10. Tai Shan
-Marc.
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Presto's Final Round's Results
The Pass 11 (73.3%)
Available Light 4 (26.7%)
01. Available Light
02. The Pass
03. Presto
04. Show Don't Tell
05. Chain Lightning
06. Scars
07. Superconductor
08. War Paint
09. Anagram (For Mongo)
10. Hand Over Fist
11. Red Tide
The top five songs, oddly enough, are the same as 2016, but third to fifth place has shuffled around a bit. Of course, the top two return to the same places, and both move on to the finals! Here's the 2016 results for comparison:
01. The Pass
02. Available Light
03. Show Don't Tell
04. Chain Lightning
Presto
06. Red Tide
07. Superconductor
08. Hand Over Fist
09. War Paint
10. Anagram (For Mongo)
11. Scars
-Marc.
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Roll The Bones's Final Round's Results
Dreamline 9 (47.4%)
Bravado 10 (52.6%)
01. Dreamline
02. Bravado
03. Where's My Thing? (Part IV "Gangster Of Boats" Trilogy)
04. Ghost Of A Chance
05. Roll The Bones
06. The Big Wheel
07. Heresy
08. Neurotica
09. Face Up
10. You Bet Your Life
The top two tracks were neck and neck in the final round, but it seems as though the album opener pulled ahead at the last minute, placing first in the survivor! Both go to the finals, however, and deservedly so! Funny again, to mention, at that the top five were the only five songs the band has played live from this album. Coincidence? Maybe! For comparison's sake, here are the results from 2016:
01. Dreamline
02. Ghost Of A Chance
03. Bravado
04. Roll The Bones
05. Where's My Thing? (Part IV, "Gangster Of Boats" Trilogy)
06. The Big Wheel
07. Face Up
08. Neurotica
09. Heresy
10. You Bet Your Life
The top five remained the same, but the order has been jumbled around a lot since then, except first place. The Big Wheel remained in 6th, while You Bet Your Life was once again the first song out. Heresy and Face Up swapped spots as well!
-Marc.
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Counterparts's Final Round's Results:
Animate 10 (62.5%)
Leave That Thing Alone 6 (37.5%)
01. Leave That Thing Alone
02. Animate
03. Cut To The Chase
04. Double Agent
05. Alien Shore
06. Stick It Out
Cold Fire
08. Everyday Glory
09. Nobody's Hero
10. Between Sun & Moon
11. The Speed Of Love
This was definitely one of the survivors where the votes were fairly evenly spread almost every round, so it made things very exciting as each round went by. For comparison, here are the results from 2016:
01. Animate
02. Double Agent
03. Leave That Thing Alone!
04. Cut To The Chase
05. Everyday Glory
06. Nobody's Hero
Cold Fire
08. Stick It Out
09, Alien Shore
10. Between Sun & Moon
11. The Speed Of Love
Interesting that the first two out were the same both times, and the top four remained the same as well, albeit in all in a different order. What's funny is there was a tie for 6th place last time as well! What a weird coincidence...
-Marc.
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Test For Echo's Final Round's Results:
Test For Echo 8 (47.1%)
Driven 4 (23.5%)
Resist 5 (29.4%)
01. Driven
02. Resist
03. Test For Echo
04. Time And Motion
05. Limbo
06. Half The World
07. Carve Away The Stone
The Color Of Right
09. Totem
Virtuality
11. Dog Years
The top three of this album did not surprise me, though I was surprised at how high TAM made it this time around (not that I dislike where it placed, I've actually grown to like the song over the years). The top six were also all songs the band played live on the TFE Tour, with Virtuality being the 7th, so it's obvious the boys like the material a lot, and it seems like they liked the songs fans have grown to like too.
For comparison, here's the 2016 results:
01. Driven
02. Resist
03. Test For Echo
04. Limbo
05. Half The World
06. The Color Of Right
07. Totem
08. Carve Away The Stone
09. Time And Motion
Virtuality
11. Dog Years
The top three being the exact same doesn't surprise me, along with Dog Years being the first one out. I'd say the 2020 results, compared to 2016, are fairly typical at this point.
-Marc.
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So we're coming up close to the last studio album by the band, but I want to keep two rounds running simultaneously, so to fill the gap, I figured I'd run a discography-wide Album Survivor, pitting the band's 19 albums against each other for everyone to decide which one reigns supreme! There won't be any tie-breakers in this one, so it'll run, at most, 18 rounds, which should carry us through most of the CA Rounds and Consolation Rounds. I may also throw in a Feedback Survivor if there's any interest, but those songs won't have any bearing on the Consolations or Finals rounds.
At the current rate, we will reach the Finals around the beginning of August, which will then take another 2-3 months to run, given that there will be 40 songs/39 rounds (and for that, there WILL be tie-breakers, though I may shorten them to 1-day tie-breakers just to speed things along).
Anyways, that's where we're at. I may also do some other smaller survivors during the Consolations & Finals, like I've done in the past, but if anyone has any suggestions for some side-survivors, I'd be open to hearing them. I've done Multi-Movement Songs before (pitting the 7 movements of 2112 against each other, etc.), the songs in the "Fear" series, the Instrumentals, and the Live albums. There's plenty of possibilities to keep things going for the next few months!
-Marc.
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Nice. Thanks, M!
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Vapor Trails's Final Round's Results:
One Little Victory 9 (64.3%)
Vapor Trail 5 (35.7%)
01. Vapor Trail
02. One Little Victory
03. Freeze (Part IV of "Fear")
04. Peaceable Kingdom
05. Secret Touch
06. Ceiling Unlimited
07. Earthshine
08. Ghost Rider
09. Out Of The Cradle
10. Sweet Miracle
Nocturne
12. The Stars Look Down
13. How It Is
What an unsually different final ranking! This was a wild survivor, and looking at the 2016 results, you can really tell just how different things have changed for this one!
01. Secret Touch
Earthshine
03. One Little Victory
04. Ghost Rider
05. Peaceable Kingdom
06. Vapor Trail
07. Freeze (Part IV of "Fear")
08. Ceiling Unlimited
09. How It Is
10. Nocturne
11. Out Of The Cradle
12. Sweet Miracle
13. The Stars Look Down
Vapor Trail rose from 6th to 1st, while both Secret Touch and Earthshine dropped at least four places each. Other than Nocturne, not one song stayed in the same place.
-Marc.
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Snakes & Arrows's Final Round's Results:
Armor & Sword 4 (33.3%)
The Main Monkey Business 8 (66.7%)
01. Armor & Sword
02. The Main Monkey Business
03. Far Cry
04. Malignant Narcissism
05. Spindrift
06. Workin' Them Angels
07. Hope
08. Faithless
09. The Way The Wind Blows
10. Bravest Face
11. The Larger Bowl
We Hold On
13. Good News First
This has been an interesting run, but I think the top five or six mostly define what most fans see as the best songs on the album. For comparison, here are the results from 2016:
Snakes & Arrows
01. Armor And Sword
02. Far Cry
03. The Main Monkey Business
04. The Way The Wind Blows
05. Malignant Narcissism
06. Workin' Them Angels
Bravest Face
08. The Larger Bowl
09. We Hold On
10. Spindrift
11. Good News First
Hope
13. Faithless
The top 3 remained the same, with A&S still holding onto the top spot. Fourth through last place definitely had a lot of shake-ups, though!
-Marc.
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Clockwork Angels's Final Round's Results:
Caravan 12 (85.7%)
Clockwork Angels 9 (56.3%)
The Garden 7 (43.8%)
01. The Garden
02. Clockwork Angels
03. Caravan
04. BU2B
05. Headlong Flight
06. The Wreckers
07. The Anarchist
08. Halo Effect
09. Carnies
10. Wish Them Well
11. Seven Cities Of Gold
12. BU2B2
The title track places second, leaving the band's studio swansong to place first, but both move on to the finals! For comparison, here are the results from the 2016 Survivor:
01. The Garden
02. Headlong Flight
03. Clockwork Angels
04. Caravan
05. The Wreckers
06. The Anarchist
07. BU2B
08. Carnies
09. Halo Effect
10. Seven Cities Of Gold
11. Wish Them Well
12. BU2B2
The bottom five largely remained the same, while 2nd to 7th place all had some shuffling. Interesting to note how Headlong Flight had dropped from 2nd to 5th since 2016, while BU2B moved up from 7th to 4th.
As we move forward through Consolation Rounds, I'll be finishing The Instrumentals, then probably doing The Studio Albums next!
-Marc.
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Just an update to the Survivor as a whole, if it wasn't seen in the final round of the Studio Albums survivor, I'll be doing the Live Albums next, which will include the following:
All The World's A Stage
Exit...Stage Left
Grace Under Pressure Tour
A Show Of Hands
Different Stages
Rush In Rio
R30: 30th Anniversary World Tour
Snakes & Arrows Live
Time Machine 2011: Live In Cleveland
Clockwork Angels Tour
R40 Live
Since many of these were also live videos, I won't make any restrictions on whether or not you make your vote based on the audio album only, or if you include the video in part of your decision-making process. I'm sure many of us have watched the videos just as much as we've spun the CDs, so feel free to use both when explaining your votes!
The first round for the live albums will go up on Monday the 3rd!
-Marc.
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The Final Round's Results:
Exit...Stage Left 6 (50%)
Different Stages 6 (50%)
01. Exit...Stage Left
Different Stages
03. All The World's A Stage
04. Rush In Rio
05. R40 Live
06. R30: 30th Anniversary World Tour
07. Grace Under Pressure Tour
08. Clockwork Angels Tour
09. Time Machine 2011: Live In Cleveland
10. Snakes & Arrows Live
11. A Show Of Hands
The Final round yielded a tie, and so both ESL and DS tie for first for top live albums.
We're a bit over half-way through the Finals, and I've started a new sub-survivor with "Rock Bottom" - the last place songs from each of the 19 albums. We've got another 6 weeks or so to go til all is said and done!
I'm still thinking about if I want to do another Survivor after the Rush Survivor, and I'm leaning towards bringing back my Neal Morse survivor, including his solo prog albums and The Neal Morse Band albums, especially since Sola Gratia is coming out soon.
-Marc.
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Well, if I’d remembered to poke my head in here, it would’ve been a vote for ESL, so DS can be the unofficial winner. ;)
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Rock Bottom's Final Round's Results:
Circumstances 7 (36.8%)
Emotion Detector 12 (63.2%)
01. Circumstances
02. Emotion Detector
03. Chemistry
04. Vital Signs
05. Different Strings
06. The Body Electric
07. Lessons
08. Madrigal
09. Red Tide
10. In The Mood
11. Tai Shan
12. The Speed Of Love
13. How It Is
14. I Think I'm Going Bald
15. Dog Years
Good News First
BU2B2
18. Rivendell
You Bet Your Life
Circumstances tops the bottom 19 songs, with Emotion Detector losing by five votes. Both are really good songs, though, and in fact, I'd say the five or so of this ranking are very good Rush songs! Thanks to everyone who participated in this new and strange sub-survivor! Next time I run the Rush Survivor, I'll definitely do this one again!
-Marc.
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Thanks to everyone who participated in this new and strange sub-survivor! Next time I run the Rush Survivor, I'll definitely do this one again!
Thanks for accepting my wacky, off-the-wall suggestion! :biggrin: And thanks for doing the whole thing - wish I had been a part of it from the start, but better late than never!
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Damn...has this really been going on since January?!?! Wow.
I'll echo all the other thanks. Much appreciated!
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I mentioned this in the final round but will mention again.....excellent job Marc :metal
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I mentioned this in the final round but will mention again.....excellent job Marc :metal
As usual :hefdaddy
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THE FINALS Final Round's Results:
La Villa Strangiato 11 (55%)
Natural Science 9 (45%)
01. Natural Science
02. La Villa Strangiato
03. Xanadu
04. Subdivisions
05. The Spirit Of Radio
06. Jacob's Ladder
07. Limelight
08. Tom Sawyer
09. 2112
10. Cygnus X-1, Book I: The Voyage
11. The Analog Kid
12. Red Barchetta
13. Marathon
14. Cygnus X-1, Book II: Hemispheres
15. Manhattan Project
16. The Garden
Between The Wheels
18. Clockwork Angels
19. Mission
20. Dreamline
21. Time Stand Still
The Pass
(23)By-Tor & The Snowdog
24. Distant Early Warning
25. Available Light
26. Anthem
27. Animate
28. Leave That Thing Alone
29. Bastille Day
30. A Passage To Bangkok
31. The Necromancer
Driven
33. The Main Monkey Business
34. Resist
35. Working Man
One Little Victory
37. Bravado
38. Vapor Trail
39. Armor & Sword
40. Finding My Way
Voted 9 to 11, Natural Science takes the Top Spot in the Rush Survivor 2020 Finals! For comparison, here are the results from the 2016 Survivor:
01. 2112 / Xanadu
03. Tom Sawyer
04. La Villa Strangiato
05. The Spirit Of Radio
06. Subdivisions
07. Red Barchetta
08. Jacob's Ladder
09. Limelight
10. Natural Science
11. The Analog Kid
12. Between The Wheels
13. Marathon
14. Dreamline
15. Cygnus X-1, Book I: The Voyage
16. Working Man
17. The Garden
18. Anthem
19. Mission
20. By-Tor & The Snowdog
21. Headlong Flight
22. Animate
23. Bastille Day
24. The Pass
25. Time Stand Still
26. The Trees
27. Afterimage
28. Mystic Rhythms
29. Double Agent
30. Earthshine
31. Driven
32. A Passage To Bangkok
33. Secret Touch
34. Far Cry
35. Available Light
36. Armor And Sword
37. Resist
38. Lakeside Park
39. Ghost Of A Chance
40. Finding My Way
41. Crossroads
42. The Seeker
Interesting to note that 2112 dropped 8 places, while Natural Science jumped up 9 places from 10th to 1st. A lot of the same songs made the top 20 each time, which isn't quite surprising to me.
I'm gonna start up the Album Covers Survivor shortly, which might be my last Rush-Related Survivor for now, and after that, I'm not sure what I'll do here next. After a few years of not doing survivors and coming back to do this Rush one has me pumped up to do another one. Maybe Spock's Beard? Neal Morse? Ayreon? The Flower Kings? Ideally, I'd like to do one with at least 8-10 particpants each round, just to keep things interesting (the more the merrier), so I may have to think about what to do next.
-Marc.
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I'd be down for Spock's and/or Ayreon. I don't know enough of NM/NMB or TFK to participate in those fully.
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Interesting to note that 2112 dropped 8 places, while Natural Science jumped up 9 places from 10th to 1st. A lot of the same songs made the top 20 each time, which isn't quite surprising to me.
I'm gonna start up the Album Covers Survivor shortly, which might be my last Rush-Related Survivor for now, and after that, I'm not sure what I'll do here next. After a few years of not doing survivors and coming back to do this Rush one has me pumped up to do another one. Maybe Spock's Beard? Neal Morse? Ayreon? The Flower Kings? Ideally, I'd like to do one with at least 8-10 particpants each round, just to keep things interesting (the more the merrier), so I may have to think about what to do next.
IMO, By-Tor, Bastille Day and Available Light are too low, and Manhattan Project, Dreamline and the two CW songs are WAY too high. Otherwise, it's a really good top 20.
As far as another one, none of the names mentioned interest me, but I'd be completely down for Yes.
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I'd be down with a Queensryche survivor, but a lot of those others ones, you'd lose me just because I'm not a huge fan of most of them. Maybe Porcupine Tree or Riverside would be options, tho I dunno if either would have much involvement.
Another possibility besides the obvious DT (not sure when the last one was done) would be to lump a bunch of the major DT side projects together for one huge survivor. Maybe pick 2 releases from each project to keep things more even.
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This one was a lot of fun...thanks for doing it. Maybe a Genesis survivor?
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Ooh a Genesis survivor would be nice.
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Another possibility besides the obvious DT (not sure when the last one was done) would be to lump a bunch of the major DT side projects together for one huge survivor. Maybe pick 2 releases from each project to keep things more even.
Personally I'd be all over a James LaBrie solo carreer survivor, but I don't know how many partecipants there would be.
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I'd be all in for any of Porcupine Tree, Riverside, Ayreon, Neal Morse or Spock's Beard.
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The Album Covers Final Round's Results:
Permanent Waves 13 (72.2%)
Moving Pictures 5 (27.8%)
01. Moving Pictures
02. Permanent Waves
03. Grace Under Pressure
04. Test For Echo
05. Exit...Stage Left
06. A Farewell To Kings
07. Power Windows
08. Hemispheres
09. 2112
Roll The Bones
11. Signals
12. Vapor Trails
Clockwork Angels
14. Fly By Night
Snakes & Arrows
16. Presto
17. Caress Of Steel
18. Rush In Rio
19. Snakes & Arrows Live
R40 Live
21. All The World's A Stage
22. Counterparts
Time Machine 2011: Live In Cleveland
Clockwork Angels Tour
25. Different Stages
26. A Show Of Hands
27. Rush
Hold Your Fire
29. Feedback
R30: 30th Anniversary World Tour
Thanks again to everyone that has participated in this Album Covers survivor, as well as the whole survivor! It's been a long 10-ish months, but I've enjoyed running again!
-Marc.
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Thanks again Marc!!!!!